Missed Opportunities

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And welcome back to the Boundary
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Welcome back gentlemen, welcome

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back.
Week 1's in the books.

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Week 1 is in the books, not the
outcome we wanted, but we're

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back at it.
We're going to talk about it,

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we're going to break it down and
then we're going to move on to

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Vandyman.
Orange did not win games.

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It didn't, they looked good.
Looked great in the game though.

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Popped they.
Did not win the.

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Game but but we learned we
learned some things about the

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team.
I think we did I think most I I

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think most of fan base probably
if I had to sort of, you know

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sum it up collectively was
somewhat encouraged by the

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performance.
I think with the way, well, not

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everyone.
We'll, we'll not beat me.

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Not beat me.
Not, no, Not Pete.

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But wait a second, didn't Pete
be on this very program?

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We're going 6:00 and 6:00 and
then he gets upset and I was

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like what you said we were going
to be 6 and 6.

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I think his his assessment is
that the South Carolina team we

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saw is not a very good team, at
least not at least not the team

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that he thought they would be.
So relative to that he didn't

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think we played well.
That, that that's, that's my

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take away from from what he said
and what we've talked about.

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I'm going to I completely
disagree with what because that

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defensive line is nasty.
Them linebackers is nasty.

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They got solid secondary.
I I think what it is we're

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pissed off because we saw
moments right?

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I know that we could have taken
advantage of.

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I think I think they've got them
pegged right.

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Well, 15 because sellers is a
monster, but we can get into all

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that.
So how's your Labor Day weekend?

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Y'all do anything fun after
Sunday or before Sunday?

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Sit around the house and.
Watch the whole work to do man,

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you got a new house.
Sit around the house, tried to

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watch some football.
Hey man, shout out to Bill

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Belichick.
All I'm going to say for right

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now, shout out to Bill Belichick
and his girlfriend.

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Hope they haven't.
Been on the sideline during the

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game, man.
I hope they're having a lovely

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evening.
Have Michael Jordan in the

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building.
Hey man, it could always be

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worse.
That's what I'll say sometime.

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I.
Don't know.

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It could always be.
Yeah, yeah.

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I mean, we lost.
For us.

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It could always be worse, man.
TCU was straight trying to

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punish them.
The third string running back

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was running through people like
that looked bad.

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So anyway, that's all I did on
Labor Day for real, Was just

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kind of watch, watch some, watch
some TV, put some boxes away,

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things like that, Brian.
Well, we made a day trip down to

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Raleigh on Saturday, hung out
with some friends, did a little

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bit of this, little bit of that,
headed back.

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Obviously, you know what I did
most of most of Sunday?

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Watch the loss, unfortunately.
But you know, it wasn't a bad

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day overall.
Watching some games, had a few

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drinks, made some pot roast, you
know, there, there there were

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worse things that happened
elsewhere.

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So I I wasn't doing too bad over
here.

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How about you, Sheldon?
You doing anything or are you

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working?
Oh no, I was working.

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We went down to to Rock Hill, SC
for our volleyball tournament

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here at with William and Mary
and they came back up and caught

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a couple soccer games.
I was pretty, pretty exhausted

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by the time that the the weekend
was over.

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But obviously I caught the, the
UNC debacle the other night,

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which was fun.
And then on on Tuesday, I had

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the distinct privilege of
interviewing Brian Randall, the

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former Hokies legend.
He sat down with us for about 10

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minutes on our we do it.
We have a Tribe sports podcast

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that we do.
And he is the for, for those who

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don't know, he's the recently
hired quarterbacks coach here

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here at William and Mary.
So it was great.

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It was great to talk with him.
He's really cool dude.

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That's, that's awesome, man.
It's awesome you got to

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interview a hokey legend like
that.

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It's awesome.
Look at Sheldon doing a little

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bit of everything, doing all
these.

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Yeah, yeah.
If you want to, yeah, head head

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to tribeathletics.com/podcast.
It'll go out tomorrow if you

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want to, if you want to hear
what Brian had to say.

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So just plug in that.
Definitely, definitely and

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myself.
Nephew Had a nephew's getting

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married early next year.
Had a little shower for them.

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We drank some beer, we ate some
BBQ.

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The Southern Plenty place in
Bryan in South Austin.

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I know you've probably been
there.

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The banana pudding.
OK.

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Boy, really good.
Yeah, that was a paid

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endorsement.
No, I wouldn't have paid

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endorsement.
It needs to be, though.

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But you know, it is my it is
Wednesday.

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But we always tell the truth
whenever we get together after a

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game, and I can't wait to hear
what not only the guys here have

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to say.
We've chatted, of course, and

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texted back and forth and couple
phone calls here and there, but

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we tell the truth on Tuesday or
Wednesday.

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What went well, what went bad,
what we didn't expect, and what

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we can do better moving forward.
So whoever wants to start it

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all, like there were some bright
moments in this game on Sunday

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and and Brian, Brian's ready
like his.

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His guys now know that I think
we all kind of expected, but we

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were unsure about, but we I
think we expected and that's

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that's a big defensive
improvement.

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The defense for most of that
game played as good as you could

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expected, especially against
what was touted to be a above

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average to very good overall
offense.

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And obviously a quote UN quote
Heisman contender and you know,

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future NFL quarterback in
sellers there for South

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Carolina.
I thought we did a good job of

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mixing them up, getting keeping
him confused, keeping him unsure

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of where he wanted to go with
the football with the way we

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were mixing coverages and mixing
the fronts up there it was.

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It was a really, really good
job, really good game playing by

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Seifkis.
And I think, you know, for the

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majority of the game, the
players executed it pretty well.

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Sean, what about you, man?
What, what, what impressed you?

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What went well for you watching?
I know you were running all

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around, so I don't know if you
called it live or afterwards.

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And we know you, you dive in the
stats and everything.

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What jumped out to you is what
went well.

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Well, definitely the defensive
line.

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You know, you look at the stats,
13 pressures generated against

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Lenore sellers, which I thought
was pretty good in the run game.

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I thought they were really good.
I know it was it was 5.7 yards

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per rush when you take out the
sacks and the kneel downs, so

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that the rushing total was a
little bit misleading in US ES

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favor.
But still I thought for the most

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part, you know, we got some push
in the D line.

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They didn't look like they were
getting, you know, blown, blown

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off the ball every single snap.
So I was really I was really

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impressed with them Linebackers,
you know, missed a few tackles

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here and there.
Safeties too, had some, you

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know, discipline, discipline
issues, but I thought the

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defense was pretty good.
And again, I'm not a, you know,

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play calling, defensive play
calling expert.

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But it seemed like for the most
part, you know, guys were in the

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right position to make the play
and sometimes they didn't make

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the tackle, which means it's
probably more talented coach.

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Tally, what did you feel that
you called me on Sunday about

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9:00 and then you talked 20
minutes?

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Yeah, it was.
I mean, Sheldon just did a lot

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of stuff, you know, defense
looked, defense looked.

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I'll say it a little bit better
than.

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So here's the thing.
I didn't go to Atlanta because I

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didn't expect much.
Like it's three hours away from

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me.
So I didn't go to Atlanta

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because I didn't expect us to be
in the game again.

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I had my what I thought would
happen, but realistically, I

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thought we would kind of show up
the same team as we've been.

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Couldn't handle things getting
pushed around.

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You didn't see much of that, You
know, you seen a lot of good

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stuff, seen some bad stuff too.
But Sheldon kind of summed it

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up.
I mean, I seen a lot of people

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rotating in on that defensive
line.

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Like it said, he played 29
people on defense or something

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like that.
You don't need it.

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You know, going through a long
season, the more people that you

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can get reps and the more people
you can get in the game that's

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doing something positive, the
better #2 what you did wasn't

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positive.
Oh, oh, that's this right here.

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But hold on, Kelly, I'm going to
throw up some because something

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that you talked to me about on
Sunday night, Sean kind of

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noticed it too.
So I want you to hit on that

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because you, like you said that
to me straight up.

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Oh yeah.
First thing that came out of

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your mouth.
Yeah, it's like, of course

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people now some people say South
Carolina ain't going to be good.

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I don't know what they're going
to be.

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I know they're big.
I know they're SEC school.

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I know that they have recruited,
you know, pretty good over the

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last couple of years and they
have a lot of NFL talent on that

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roster.
So when you see our guys who I

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don't, you know, from my
perspective, didn't think we had

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a lot of, you know, NFL guys
ready to go next year on the

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roster going against their team.
We didn't look out of place.

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You know, we looked big or we
looked or as big we looked as

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physical, a lot of times more
physical.

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We have more sacks than them and
they've got arguably the best

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defensive player in the in the
country on their team.

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So again, I think that we had a
good game play and I think we

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we, we looked the part.
Jarrett Ferguson definitely has

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been a from what I've seen an
upgrade thus far.

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And we weren't scared like you
seen the, you seen the guys, you

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know, putting a nose in there.
I mean, even the announcers who

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I freaking hated listening to
talked about, you know, hearing

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what it's like it was car
crashes happening on that field.

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Haven't I haven't heard that in
the last couple of years.

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It's been a lot of rap and roll
tackles.

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We was hitting people.
So that was good to see.

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Yeah, for me, the one thing and
me and Brian, me and you talked

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about this for a few minutes day
after the game is that might

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have been the most best prepared
Brent Pride team in three years.

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Like it it like there weren't
some people were upset about the

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timeouts at the end of the half.
Some people weren't.

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I I think it was managed OK from
where we were situationally, it

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was like it's not going to do
anything when once his name went

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down, it's like, well, ain't no
need to call the timeout because

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they can give you the timeout.
But overall it like they had a

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game plan.
They knew what they wanted to

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do.
And then, and I think this

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probably has noticed more than
one person, but me and Brian got

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a couple texts saying I think
they've made more adjustments in

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the first half than they did all
of last year during games.

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And I don't know if y'all saw
that.

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I can't see that with my eyes.
But Talia, you shaking your

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head, I'm assuming you saw some
things that were different after

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a few drives.
Yeah, there.

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I mean, hell, the first drive,
but somebody wasn't on the field

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on the first drive.
So I ain't going to get into all

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that.
But I will say we did see some

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different adjustments after the
first drive and then just all

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throughout the game, you seen
some, you seen some different

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things happening.
Now again, I'm not, I'm not

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glazing a loss, you know what
I'm saying, because we still

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lost.
But at the same time, I do have

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to look at it's a long season.
That was not a game that I

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counted as a win.
I had us as a seven and five

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team.
Still think we can get there.

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Watching that game may have made
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4:00, depending on, you know,
what the quarterback does.

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But definitely look at Robbie.
Robbie got his hand up.

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He said it was him.
I know.

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Yeah, I know.
It was Robbie watching you.

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Know it was Robbie.
But it was.

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I mean it, they go back and
watch it and see a lot of

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different twists, you know, a
lot of ET twists, different

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things like that, that they were
doing that I'm not really used

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to us doing.
It was just APR beating his man,

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APR bending and getting around
the corner, you know what I'm

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saying?
Like that was kind of what our

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pass rush entailed last year.
Yeah, 4 sacks and maybe from 4

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different people.
I have to go back and look. 6

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Because there were some half
sacks.

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Emmett Laws Fall Kamari, Jaden
Keller got one on the blitz,

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Kelvin Gilliam, Ben Bell all got
accredited for a sax.

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That's yeah, that's what you got
to do.

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And and that, by the way, you
talk about that twist stunt,

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that move that Bell and Copeland
pulled on the the left side of

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that line.
Yep, Yeah, I sat here and

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watched that and and Brian, my
assumption is if it's if that

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technique is pulled off the way,
nobody is going to stop that.

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Nobody like maybe an NFL lineman
that is beastly.

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But watching that technique,
when Kamari comes over and

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Copeland wipes, it's just like,
oh, he's dead.

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Yeah.
I mean, one of the things we

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talked about this offseason is
that we knew we weren't going to

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have an APR on this team.
And, and we knew we, we, we

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might not even have Ananias
peoples on this team, but we

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needed to be able to replace
their production and then some

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in aggregate.
And I think we we shown that we

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definitely have that capability
going forward as long as you

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know, what we saw against South
Carolina was the aberration.

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Yeah, what what about this?
I I agree with Robbie on this,

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Kelly.
Robbie's the defensive guy.

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I can say this a lot of people,
and I'm one of the people too.

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That's like when somebody's been
at school for so long, it's

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like, man, you get what you're
going to get, you know what I'm

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saying?
Like, I'm not the kind of person

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who says, OK, this is the year
he takes a step, you know, and

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he just becomes this man child
or something.

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But when I seen Keller and
Woodson on the field compared to

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the other guys not saying they
did horrible, it was a

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noticeable difference.
Those two plan to run or chasing

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down, you know, ball ball
carriers and things like that.

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You can see a difference in the
other linebackers we have at

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this moment.
I think #30 and 26 was the other

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two I've seen on the field. 2626
was getting.

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He looked like what's in that
first, like the kind of close to

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the same size, skin colors close
to the same.

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So I was like, is that him?
Is it not?

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It wasn't it was not it.
Was now now.

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Short, on the other hand, made a
couple good plays.

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I mean that one where Sellers
broke from Copeland, I mean,

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anybody else the way Short
tackled that would have been a

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sack.
It's Sellers.

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You ain't going to do that to
Sellers.

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But I think overall, defensively
you, you feel pretty good.

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And like you said, but it's also
tallying saying playing 29 guys

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against that caliber of talent
on offense with Nick Harbor,

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with face on, with sellers, you
know, they're rebuilding their

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offensive line a little bit.
But to say you played that many

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guys and still were were
creating pressure, you still

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were stopping them short, that
says a lot about how they've

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retooled the defense.
And I think that is a big step

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going forward because now, I
mean, there were certain times

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last year when there's certain
guys not on the field

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defensively, it was just like.
Gas, gas, gas.

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Gas.
I'll throw this up there.

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We can we can talk about that a
little bit.

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I I saw the PFF grade as well.
I will say the consistency was

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better, but he did have some
negative plays.

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So it's kind of, you know, you
kind of take that, you know, as

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it comes, I guess I thought from
a total snap count, he looked

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better than he than he has
anytime in Blacksburg.

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But that doesn't necessarily
mean that, you know, we couldn't

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see some other guys step up and
and and steal some of those

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snaps in the future.
So I don't.

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Know 100% I'll let Shelton pull
up the grade because Shelton

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does that stuff and while I'm
while Shelton's looking that up,

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let's flip the offense.
You know, not the best only no

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touchdown scored only 11 points,
but she's still again what went

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well.
And I do think the law firm of

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Green and green is going to make
a formidable combo this year.

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They neither one probably to the
point of Jay Lane yet, maybe 8

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next year.
But you know, when you look at

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what those two guys did overall
on Saturday, they had some,

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there was a drop.
There was a bad penalty by both.

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But overall Sunday, you know,
they're going out here.

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Diamond Green 3 for 94, eight
and five for 71.

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I mean, you you do that for 12
games that's 1000 yard receiver

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and that's the guy right at the
doorstep of 1000 yard receiver.

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Yeah.
So I think I think wide receiver

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1 and 2 is pretty.
Yeah.

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And we had and we saw
opportunities.

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We saw opportunities that I
think we didn't necessarily see

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for guys in a lot of games last
year.

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Lot lot of catchable balls, lot
lot of opportunities for them to

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really go out there and show
their ability as a receiver.

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Not just, you know, routes that
are coming open, but you know,

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opportunities down the field
where you know, it's a

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one-on-one match up and you let
your guy go up there, make a

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play and and both greens did a
good, good job at that at

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different times of the game.
Tell you about to say something.

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I forgot I'm reading these
comments.

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Just laughs.
It ain't it ain't no telling

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about.
I'm gonna let, I'm gonna let the

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show go on.
Let the show go on Free game.

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What Free Caleb?
Where's that?

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He's free.
He missed his OneDrive.

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We'll wait till November to see
what happens next.

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Right.
So by the way, that's if y'all

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noticed that nasty ugly safety
was.

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Supposed to be there.
By the way, if you go back and

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look at the tape, looks like he
he got caught peeking in the

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backfield on the play action
there and.

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Great, Caleb, I'm pretty sure
that was.

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Yeah, I'm pretty sure that was
bad back then.

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It.
Was.

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Yeah.
Yeah, that was a cover.

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Well, the whole thing is that
was one of the first times all

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day we had went into like a
cover one because we've been

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kind of playing cover 3, cover 2
shells all day.

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But again, I'm going to say
something.

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Why it's good.
Cephus knew they were just going

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to pound the ball.
They were up.

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They had they had been getting,
they had been gashing, but they

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didn't get in 234234.
They were trying to run out the

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clock and that's just straight
up it.

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Another thing that caught my, I
won't say caught my eye, didn't

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have the best stat day, but just
the way he ran and Tally, I know

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we you mentioned it right
before.

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Hawkins may not be tuned, but
it's not a downgrade to the

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bottom of the barrel.
No, I don't think they got a lot

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of.
I think they got a lot to figure

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out in the running back room who
they want to get carries to.

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You know, it's going to depend
on health.

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It's going to depend on, you
know, what we're playing because

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I've seen some stuff out of
everybody who got on the field.

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It just comes down to who's
going to be kind of the guy.

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You know what I'm saying?
Stewart didn't play.

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Hawkins did a better job than I
thought he would do.

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They kind of kept talking about,
oh, he came from, you know, D2

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or wherever he came from and you
know that it seems a big a

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different stage than he played
on, but he didn't look scared.

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You know, the only thing again,
I as a fan for the last couple

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of years, we've seen Tooten in
the backfield and you don't

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realize how good he is till you
don't have him.

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You know, Hawkins would break 1
tackle and he just don't have

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that burst to get away like
Tooten.

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Not saying he don't have burst,
but he don't have that burst

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that Tooten did.
Because when Tooten would when

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he would bend the corner, he's
when he gets downhill, he was,

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he was, he was, he was 10 yards
up the field.

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You know, I don't, I don't know
that we got a back like that

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right now, you know, so I think
Hawkins did a good job for what

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he was, you know, for what he
was in the game for 'cause they

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was hitting him, you know, but
he wasn't, he wasn't a easy, he

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wasn't a easy tackle and he got
some hard yards.

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I'll be interested to see what
the young man can do Saturday.

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I don't even want to say the
rest of the season.

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We'll just talk about this next
game.

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One game at a time, one game at
a time, Shelton.

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Anything else on the offense
that you felt went well as you

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were doing your research?
I'm having to think because I

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don't think.
That much went well, but.

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I mean.
Well, that's just, I mean, they

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just did it.
That's it.

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It wouldn't.
Last, well, I guess I'll, I'll

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give, I'll give the online
credit.

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I thought they they did an OK
job opening up some holes.

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I thought pass protection, pass
protection was as good as you

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could probably expect to be
against a front like that.

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I don't think we had this sort
of, you know, just obscene

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gaffes that we kind of had last
year.

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So I think they showed some
progress and my hope is, as I

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talked about, hopefully Matt
Moore can coach these guys up to

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where later in the season.
Yeah, thanks for that.

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Yeah, I'm trying.
I'm I'm grasping at straws here.

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The other.
Thing I've got, the other thing

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I've got is like the
preparedness.

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I felt like on offense, we we
look prepared.

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We didn't always execute, but it
looked like there was a there

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was a game plan.
Things were open at times we.

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Knew we knew what we how we
wanted to attack South Carolina.

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We were doing it consistently.
It's just that a lot of times

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the guys, especially when we
crossed the 50, especially on

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those key downs, we just didn't
execute the way we needed to to

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keep the ball in our hands and
get points on the board.

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And we have a whole bunch of
dumb ass penalties, you know

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what I'm saying?
I mean, we had like 4 penalties,

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I think maybe 40 yards.
But I think Garrett jumped off

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sides on kind of crucial third
down or at the beginning of the

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game.
But you didn't see a whole bunch

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of you know, pre snap penalties
and things like that that I'm

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used to us doing.
I think that when we continue in

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this in this episode, that chat
y'all will see everybody thinks

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that we played really good.
I think.

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And I see people keep putting
drones, drones, drones up here.

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And I'm not defending drones by
no means because I want to win.

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But when you keep listening and
if you go back and watch that

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game, I don't think it was as
clear cut as people think.

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He got pressured a lot and that
defensive line is good.

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He has to be better, especially
at taking the layups, making the

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easy throws.
He has to be better at that.

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You know, a 10 yard throw, we
got to have it, but it wasn't a

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lot of standing around and let
me just throw this ball to you.

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He was on the move and guess
what?

445
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,320
He's not a pro.
I mean, he's not a pro.

446
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:31,200
He he, he has some development
that he still has to go through.

447
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,640
He has some development he still
has to go through.

448
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,440
But he was a lot of moving.
He was a lot of moving around.

449
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:38,840
He ain't, he ain't Lamar
Jackson.

450
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,400
He may not be good.
He may not be good at throwing

451
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:42,800
on the run.
I don't know.

452
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,600
We'll see.
We will see.

453
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,600
One last shout out to Trent for
that Bend that corner, the jail

454
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,320
reference.
Bend that corner.

455
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,800
Oh yeah.
Good one.

456
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,800
I thought about that too when
Curtis said it, but I couldn't

457
00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,280
make the job.
You couldn't make the job.

458
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:01,880
Get it in there next time.
Get in there.

459
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,800
One last piece of what went
well.

460
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,200
God, we're going to miss this
man so much next year.

461
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:11,040
John Love, good boy, man.
Player the.

462
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:12,920
Game Savior.
New Savior?

463
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:21,400
Well, it's it's to a point now
if we cross the 45, he might can

464
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:25,800
make this kick because that one
Saturday, that was an NFL kick

465
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:30,080
when you, I mean dead pipe down
the middle, halfway up the

466
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,960
crossbar.
Yeah, I mean, it would have been

467
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:39,280
good at least another 5 yards
out. 6060 John loves a savior

468
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,200
because that man can kick in
next year.

469
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,600
We ain't going to have it, but
he is going to make an NFL

470
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,120
squad.
Oh yeah, he.

471
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,720
Played on Sunday this past week
and he'll be playing on Sundays

472
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,880
next year.
Damn, right, there we go and we

473
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,160
get little brother next year.
So absolutely.

474
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:59,600
All right, so you know, we start
with sunshine and roses, but we

475
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,000
know it was some bad shit on
Sunday.

476
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,200
Who wants to start it, where you
want to start, how you want to

477
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:07,600
start?
Because there was quite a few

478
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,320
things that we can talk about
and I'm sure the chats going to

479
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,320
tell us even more as we get into
it.

480
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,760
Well, Tally, you hit on some of
it, so I'm going to let you lead

481
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,600
on that first one there.
Go for it, man.

482
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,040
Oh, what went bad?
Yeah.

483
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,640
Inconsistency at quarterback.
You know, I think Andretti was

484
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,040
asking about it, so we'll get
into it.

485
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:31,320
Karen has to be much better to
win, to put a team on his back

486
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,640
and go win a game.
He has to be better.

487
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,560
I just that's what it is.
It's more that goes into it than

488
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,640
just him being better by
himself.

489
00:27:40,120 --> 00:27:47,200
But I think he's not fully
understanding his ability, you

490
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,640
know, and I get it, he should
already know this and he's been

491
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,400
playing a long time, but every
game is different.

492
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,760
He was, he was running for his
life a little bit in that game,

493
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,240
but I think that he was seeing a
little bit of ghost as well

494
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,880
because sometimes he was
breaking the pocket and he could

495
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,280
have took 5 yards and got out of
bounds, 10 yards get out of

496
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,280
bounds.
And I think he's thinking, I got

497
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,440
to get the ball down the field,
I got to make a play.

498
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,320
He's pressing.
I don't think he has to do that.

499
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:18,280
I think he's good enough to
break that pocket, get the five

500
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:22,960
yards live to play another down.
So the inconsistency with Karen

501
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,920
has to be better even for us to
win Saturday.

502
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,200
Like he's got to do some soul
searching and figure out what he

503
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,480
wants to do moving forward.
I'll talk a little bit more

504
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,920
about it later on, what I think
about the quarterback situation.

505
00:28:36,120 --> 00:28:39,240
But I'll tell you all this, if
there was another quarterback on

506
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:43,880
the roster that was better than
#1 they would be playing that,

507
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,240
playing itself.
I heard some people say I put

508
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,840
Pop in it.
If Pop was in that game, you

509
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,240
might as well put my son in
there.

510
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,560
That's in 10th grade.
He would have got killed.

511
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,880
Pop would have got murdered by
that team.

512
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,560
He would have got murdered.
That's the main phrase in there.

513
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,560
First of all, read the read the
phrase real quick tally just so

514
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,480
you know.
Who said this, Wes?

515
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,360
He said drones.
He says drones is drones.

516
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,840
He he's the best we got.
But like a tampon, we have to

517
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,200
use him to his full capacity.
Why it's got to be a tampon.

518
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:17,760
How could?
It be.

519
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,200
Like a dirty How could it be
like a dirty cooler or something

520
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,960
when you camping?
Why did it have to be?

521
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,400
I don't know, but you know what?
I, I that's, that's one for the

522
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:30,280
you.
Threw it.

523
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,240
I was like, oh man, oh man, I,
I, I couldn't even get.

524
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,200
Through it.
Yeah.

525
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,120
Well, all right, Brian, what did
you have just watching in

526
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,200
general with Kyron and the
inconsistency this day here?

527
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,040
You know, Tally talked about it.
I mean, I think the biggest

528
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,280
thing for me was, was missing
the layups and, and feeling like

529
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:51,360
he had to, when that pocket did
break, break down.

530
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,400
Like he had to make a play on
that first interception.

531
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:59,600
Like #1 You can't throw that
where you did.

532
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,840
And if you do throw it, you got
to throw it in the back of the

533
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,640
end zone where only your guy can
get it.

534
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,560
And you know where you are on
the field.

535
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,480
You, you got to, you got to
understand the situational, have

536
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,840
the situational awareness of
where you are on the field

537
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,400
because you're, you're at John
loves field goal range there.

538
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:18,800
Like you're, you're in field
goal range.

539
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,000
That's three points you're
taking off the board by trying

540
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:26,880
to do too much.
And then we had other situations

541
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,080
where you got to, you got to
mostly clean pocket.

542
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,200
You got to you got a wide
receiver breaking open on a big

543
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,240
are on a slant and the ball's a
little behind.

544
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,760
The ball's not on time.
It, it's, it was just the little

545
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,680
things that just the
inconsistency that happened at

546
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,080
times where you are, you have
established a drive, you're in

547
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,400
a, you're in a spot where you
can start to look at putting

548
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,920
points on the board and now
you're punting because you're

549
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:54,240
not doing the little things
right.

550
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,160
Shelton, what were you able to
dig up about the performance on

551
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,080
Saturday?
Statistics and deep brand?

552
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,840
A little perspective.
Yeah, well, Kyron didn't grade

553
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,720
out particularly poorly
according to PFF.

554
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,200
So, you know, some of that might
have been, you know, his wide

555
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,000
receivers, you know, the
pressure he was dealing with.

556
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,560
Obviously, you know, you can't
fault a guy for no having guys

557
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,200
in his face.
You know, every other play as a

558
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,880
as a as a defense, South
Carolina generated 23 pressures

559
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,520
in total.
So you kind of have to imagine

560
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,000
how much that kind of hurt
Kyron.

561
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,920
And that was a big negative for
me, of course.

562
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,920
But you know, he had he had two
turnover worthy throws according

563
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,800
to PFF, which obviously Brian
mentioned, you know, that's not

564
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,360
an ideal, you know, percentage
just, you know, based on how

565
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:44,680
much you're throwing the ball.
So, you know, I know some of his

566
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,840
drops and and Congress receivers
could play better.

567
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,400
But I also think it seems to me
like in the second-half, Vt

568
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:53,960
played a little bit more
conservatively.

569
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,880
And I think that was probably
because Monty just wasn't really

570
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,800
trusting car and storing
ability.

571
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,640
So I, I think, and again, that
hurt the offense because again,

572
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,960
we know this team isn't going
to, you know, run the ball

573
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,360
extremely well.
So if you're limited in terms of

574
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,560
what you can, you know, what
place you can call, that's not,

575
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:12,960
it's not good against a front
like that.

576
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:18,640
So I just thought, you know, he
was, he was, you know, from a

577
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,120
standpoint of like technique and
footwork and stuff like that.

578
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,280
I thought we saw some kind of
regression, you know, of course,

579
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,520
or what we're seeing early,
early in last season as well.

580
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,640
Got it.
I want to say the one thing

581
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,040
where to me the bad with Kyron
was there were some plays like

582
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:36,320
design roll outs and stuff.
Kalimenu talked about this on

583
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,520
Sunday night design roll out.
They took away the options and

584
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:44,360
he kind of hesitated where if he
just as soon as the first three

585
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,480
one was to Benji, he threw it.
Benji caught got tackled a line

586
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:48,960
of scrimmage because the guy was
on his back.

587
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:54,400
If there were several of those,
he just goes, I'm not saying

588
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,120
he's breaking 30, I'm not saying
he's even breaking 20.

589
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:01,440
But what I'm saying is it's
five, it's six, it's 7 upfield.

590
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,520
Now you're second and three.
Now you're manageable where you

591
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:08,040
can go downfield, you can make
other decisions.

592
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,680
So it was the inconsistency
because a couple of those deep

593
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,360
balls, I know shuffling, you've
said in the past his deep balls

594
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,000
where his struggles are, a
couple of his deep balls were on

595
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,720
the absolute money and where
that intermediate range where he

596
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,240
had done better in the short
range.

597
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,800
That's where the struggles lie
now, is it?

598
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,680
Is it because it's a new system?
It's new routes, Guys are

599
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,800
breaking a different spot,
they're coming through different

600
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,160
areas.
That could be the case.

601
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,360
He did miss part of spring, he
did miss part of summer.

602
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:40,120
So the whole thing with him you
talk about the regression is can

603
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,840
it be a progression?
Can we get to put in those

604
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,360
catchable balls out there?
Well, you got to remember it's

605
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:49,240
still the first game of your
quarterback in a new offense

606
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:53,640
with majority new receivers.
I mean, there's really only one

607
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:58,840
receiver that he's worked with
heavily in the group that he's

608
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:04,760
been practicing with both going
back to 2023-2024 and now this

609
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,360
year.
And he didn't even get to work a

610
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:11,040
lot of that in this offseason.
So, you know, you, you wonder if

611
00:34:11,639 --> 00:34:13,639
this is going to kind of be a
work in progress, if some of

612
00:34:13,639 --> 00:34:16,360
this is going to come along as,
as we get a little bit deeper

613
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,800
into the year, you know, the
hope is that you clean up enough

614
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,800
between now and next week that
you know, you, you can at least

615
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:28,760
win in the process, right?
So I don't, I didn't see a ton

616
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:33,239
that, you know, if, if Kyron can
hit a couple more of those that,

617
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,920
you know, he was missed a little
bit on, you know, all of a

618
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,719
sudden, you know, you, you get a
few more points on the board and

619
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,360
you feel a little bit better
about the way the outcome turned

620
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,120
out there.
So we'll we'll see if the

621
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,520
footwork and the other
consistencies with decision

622
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:51,199
making kind of get cleaned up as
the season goes along though.

623
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:56,000
100% let's go to the other one,
even though they were few and

624
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,000
far between it.
Well Shelton, you got to numb

625
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,160
probably, so I'll let you miss
tackles.

626
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,120
Do you have the miss?
Tackles I can, I can, I can get

627
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:05,880
probably about 30 seconds get
the miss tackle.

628
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,200
I just I, I will say just one
more thing on on Kyron, go

629
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:10,800
ahead.
If you, if you want to, if you

630
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,080
want to, you know, put this in a
positive.

631
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,920
He did grid out extremely well
when he was soaring from a clean

632
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,040
pocket, about a 90 grid, which
is elite.

633
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,120
So obviously he struggled a lot
when he was under pressure.

634
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,040
But the one caveat to that is
that he was throwing mainly in

635
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,640
that short, you know, what is 0
to 9 yard range.

636
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,160
So mostly, you know, short easy
throws.

637
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,320
So again, if if you're if you're
looking for Silver Linings, when

638
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,840
he was protected, he was pretty
good.

639
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,560
But we also just need to see
things, see how things play out

640
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,160
in the future.
If you can kind of, you know,

641
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:45,920
play a little bit better when
he's under pressure. 1 100%

642
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,680
there all right, so shelton's
going to look it up and we're

643
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,520
going to get the rate, but
probably one of the biggest

644
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:56,640
changes and if somebody put it
in the chat was we get a sack.

645
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,480
Elijah fall breaks through and
knocks the shit out of sellers.

646
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,640
All fumbles goes back 20 plus
yards.

647
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:08,760
The very next play is one of the
worst missed tackles.

648
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,760
I don't understand because
didn't use leverage.

649
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,360
Look, Charlie's just shaking his
head.

650
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,880
Brian's just giving me a cock
eye to Look and then Shelton

651
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,000
Dorsey.
But when Burgos missed that, it

652
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,800
was such a deflator because it's
second and 33.

653
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,600
They're out of field goal range.
They ain't going to be able to.

654
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,680
At best, they're maybe trying to
get back to the 35 to have a

655
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,120
chance to kick field goal.
It was that was a momentum shift

656
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,120
because if you tackle him right,
there would have been a TfL or

657
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,880
at the line of scrimmage.
It's second or third 33.

658
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,240
They don't go down, they don't
score another point, they don't

659
00:36:47,240 --> 00:36:51,440
score 3 points.
That was deflating Shelton.

660
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,800
There were some others.
I know Kamari missed the sack,

661
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,800
Michael Short missed the sack.
How many total missed tackles?

662
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:01,680
Because it felt like it was more
than two or three.

663
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,760
It was definitely more than two.
PFF has 15 total.

664
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:10,520
So as a percentage of total
tackles, that's about 27%, which

665
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:14,040
is obviously not good.
For perspective, South

666
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,880
Carolina's missed tackle rate
was about 12%.

667
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,440
So I think if you're under, I
don't know exactly what the what

668
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,040
like the average is, but you
definitely want to be under like

669
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:29,320
15, you know, low, high teens at
best. 27% is not not good.

670
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,480
Yeah, yeah, 15% or under is
usually kind of what your, what

671
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,560
your target is.
If if you're getting much above

672
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,400
that, it's that's a poor
tackling game.

673
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,360
And, and I mean, we saw it, we
saw that there was at times

674
00:37:43,720 --> 00:37:48,400
where tackling was an issue.
First drive in particular, you

675
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,320
know, that drive with, with
Virgo's missing that tackle.

676
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,320
There were a couple other
instances in there where, you

677
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:58,160
know, late the game.
I think we saw a couple on

678
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,680
sellers where you know, that
extended drive, you know, later

679
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,000
in the game there.
So you know, you you had some,

680
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,240
some definitely consistently
there.

681
00:38:07,240 --> 00:38:09,600
There was missed tackles kind of
throughout the game, but it's

682
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,760
certainly weird.
It's ugly head at at some bad

683
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,480
times as well.
So before Tally jumps in on

684
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,000
this, we got to create a metric
because missed tackles is one

685
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,560
thing because you can miss a
tackle, but if you gain tackle

686
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:23,600
and the guy gets 1 yard and gets
tackled, next we need the missed

687
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:27,720
tackled like ratio.
Like OK, you missed 15 tackles

688
00:38:27,720 --> 00:38:29,800
but it only accounted for 43
yards.

689
00:38:30,720 --> 00:38:32,240
You missed it, but you guys
were.

690
00:38:32,240 --> 00:38:34,000
All over it.
So this tackle to yak.

691
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,240
Exactly.
But Yak's different.

692
00:38:36,240 --> 00:38:38,520
That's just contact that doesn't
count from this tackle.

693
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,320
We we got something there,
Sheldon.

694
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,040
Yeah.
The one thing, one thing that's

695
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,000
kind of adjacent to that is
average depth of tackle.

696
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,280
So that's where you track for
like linebackers and different

697
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,200
department and that's what I was
looking at last year.

698
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:53,840
Like Keller, I think Keller and
was it what Keller and Lawson I

699
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,680
think last year had horrific
average have their tackle rates

700
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,560
because they were getting when
they were making the tackle.

701
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:01,760
They were they were so far
behind the line of scrimmage.

702
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:04,840
So that's why sometimes, you
know, tackle tackle numbers can

703
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,680
be misleading.
You want to look at like, where

704
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,280
is the guy actually making the
tackle?

705
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,480
So that's where that's one
metric we can look at to try to

706
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,720
evaluate like, OK, how much, how
well are these linebackers

707
00:39:13,720 --> 00:39:16,400
actually, you know, getting to
the ball carry before he's

708
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,520
getting to that second level?
Yeah, so all your tackles are at

709
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,960
5 yards as a linebacker?
Are they doing?

710
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,320
Anything.
Right.

711
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,520
Helpful, not great, Bob.
I mean, you're, you're not,

712
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:31,440
you're not surrendering a, you
know, 30 yard run, but you only

713
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,440
need a couple of those runs to
get a first down.

714
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,800
If you're not, get the stop, get
close to the line of scrimmage.

715
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:42,840
Tally, we'll kick it to you now.
Yeah, now, so just talking about

716
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,920
the missed tackles and stuff
like that, to me, I feel like

717
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:51,280
it's a little bit worse because
you're playing so many players.

718
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,680
You're coming off the bench.
You should be fresh.

719
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,360
You don't know when you're going
to get an opportunity to shine

720
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,120
because you're rotating in and
out with a lot of guys.

721
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:02,840
Burgos, we'll just talk about
him.

722
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,240
You got to make that tackle,
man.

723
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,800
Like that's Showtime to shine.
If you want to get, I mean, he's

724
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,600
he's a senior, right?
He's got to be a senior.

725
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,760
He's been there forever.
What other time do you have?

726
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:21,440
You know you, I don't know how
many plays he got, but again, I

727
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,600
know he's rotating in with a lot
of different guys.

728
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,640
You should come in.
You should be fresh, fresh,

729
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:30,280
ready to go and come in and make
an impact, you know, because

730
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:31,560
that's what some of the D
lineman did.

731
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,320
That's what I was seeing.
A lot of those guys is rotating

732
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:35,960
in.
Hell, I don't even know how they

733
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:37,680
name.
What's the white dude name?

734
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:39,560
Heisman.
Heisman.

735
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,520
I ain't going to say I thought
he wouldn't be good.

736
00:40:44,240 --> 00:40:46,760
I thought he'd just, you know,
get in and do it.

737
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,080
He was, he was making, he was
moving the line, you know,

738
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,240
coming in, making an impact.
That's what you that's what you

739
00:40:53,240 --> 00:40:55,560
want to see from rotational
pieces.

740
00:40:55,880 --> 00:41:00,640
And when you don't get that, you
see, you know, burst plays and

741
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,920
things like that that we seen on
Sunday.

742
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:05,920
So I'm hoping that they clean
that up.

743
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:10,360
And probably, again, I know I
don't know much about secrets,

744
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,440
but if he's rotating all these
guys in and you're getting in

745
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,040
and you're not doing what you
need to do, you probably won't

746
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,760
see them more time and they'll
probably rotate somebody else

747
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:19,720
in.
And sometimes that's what you

748
00:41:19,720 --> 00:41:22,200
got to do.
Let's shout out Grayson Wimbish,

749
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:26,800
forget the the Heisman in on the
the preview panel as his

750
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,520
surprise breakout player for the
defense.

751
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,720
Yeah, by the way, I just looked
at that play, it would have been

752
00:41:33,720 --> 00:41:36,720
a six yard loss had completed
that tackle.

753
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:41,440
It would have been at their 30.
Six, yeah, that was just a big

754
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:42,560
one.
I don't want, I don't want to

755
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,040
just yeah, I don't want to just
keep harping on that one.

756
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,600
I know, but it pissed y'all but
it yeah, that was a big one.

757
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,480
You know, you had the momentum
going.

758
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,440
You got the momentum going.
That place probably would have

759
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,840
went crazy.
You know, that's the kind of

760
00:41:55,840 --> 00:42:00,000
place that we keep missing.
You need to keep missing those

761
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,800
players like that.
Listen, it's the old.

762
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:04,800
It's the old man with the
fishing hook and the money.

763
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,960
Yeah.
Jeff, yes, yeah, you go get it

764
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,080
real quick.
One last piece of what went bad,

765
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:18,080
the special teams error second
year now on the opening game in

766
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,360
error where one of the guys does
not line up one of the Gunners

767
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,440
does not get on the line, least
that punt return.

768
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:31,120
So last year Vandy the air with
the double numbers led to them

769
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,240
kicking a field goal.
Oh, that's not that big of a

770
00:42:34,240 --> 00:42:36,600
deal at the end of the game.
It was because if they don't get

771
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,320
that field goal early, we have a
10 point lead going into the

772
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,880
last couple minutes, not a seven
point.

773
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:48,720
In this case, it basically leads
to them going up 9 at that

774
00:42:48,720 --> 00:42:55,040
point.
And Stu, Stu, he, he got rid of

775
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,200
two coordinators.
You supposed to be just doing

776
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,640
special teams.
Well, you know what, I've seen a

777
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:06,040
couple things, special teams.
That was kind of a little iffy.

778
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,920
I get it.
You know, Tuck part return is

779
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:10,560
hard.
You know I ain't, I ain't never

780
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,720
been a part returner, so I
wouldn't say that's easy.

781
00:43:12,720 --> 00:43:18,640
But you got to catch the ball
like you can't let it roll 20

782
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:20,760
yards.
You know, I do what you got to

783
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,960
do to stop it where it's kicked.
I think we was letting the ball

784
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,560
roll a little bit too much.
Sometimes we have people coming

785
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,760
out of the end zone, getting to
the 15 or 16.

786
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,840
Just let it go through the end
zone, down in the end zone.

787
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:38,880
Take it at the 25 S besides.
That ball bends at the three.

788
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,680
Get away from it.
It's going to come in the end

789
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,880
zone.
Don't try to be a hero.

790
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,320
Right.
Just stuff like that besides

791
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:51,520
that, but that that punt return
or that punt team was definitely

792
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,640
bad.
There's some guys out there

793
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,960
looking like me on the punt on
the punt team.

794
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,040
I don't know why they was out
there.

795
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,640
I'm just wondering because they
weren't catching nobody.

796
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,520
Anything else to add on that or
anything else of what went bad?

797
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:14,400
All right, let's go around now.
And anything you weren't

798
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,800
prepared for and just one
hitter, you tell me what you

799
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,360
weren't prepared for, We'll
start, Brian.

800
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:26,600
So one thing I wasn't prepared
for, I'll say this.

801
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:31,680
So we, we had a, we had a couple
different game plans to kind of

802
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,680
neutralize what Stewart was able
to do.

803
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:39,480
We had, we had some delayed
silence snaps, had to clap long

804
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,840
delay.
You get you get the you get the

805
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:47,720
silence snap there.
And we also did in the running

806
00:44:47,720 --> 00:44:49,760
game, especially in the in the
option plan.

807
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:53,160
We were trying to get him kind
of on island to make a decision,

808
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,400
use him as the option man for
the majority of the of the

809
00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:00,160
contest there.
So I wasn't prepared for us to

810
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:06,720
have that type of game plan to
slow down Stewart outside of

811
00:45:06,720 --> 00:45:09,360
just shading coverage there and
shipping him with an extra guy,

812
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,920
stuff like that.
So I, I was surprised pleasantly

813
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:17,080
to see that they were, you know,
taking that, that role seriously

814
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,320
there.
So what about you?

815
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,320
Anything that you are not
prepared for as you were looking

816
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,840
through.
Yeah, well, I definitely wasn't

817
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:28,680
prepared for how much our, our D
line really held up against

818
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,240
them.
I, I was very impressed.

819
00:45:30,240 --> 00:45:33,040
I wasn't, you know, I wasn't
down on the D line, but I just,

820
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,560
I, I thought they held up really
well against, you know,

821
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,120
formidable SEC opponent.
At least you know, what we think

822
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,680
is a formidable SEC opponent.
So I thought, I thought they're

823
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,480
really good there.
Kelly, what about you?

824
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:50,400
I'm, I really, I ain't going to
say I wasn't prepared, but like

825
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,640
their front was better than I
thought it would be.

826
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:58,080
I didn't, you know, I thought, I
don't think that we did

827
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,280
horrible, but I think that their
front was really good.

828
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:06,240
I wasn't prepared for them to
pressure US 25 times.

829
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,920
You were prepared for Stewart
and maybe a BIOS.

830
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,680
Yeah, yeah, because we talked
about a little bit, you know,

831
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,880
how they had all these guys
GoPro and and they were still

832
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,520
pressuring us.
I've seen somebody run through

833
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,680
Johnny Garrett and he had his
legs up in there like he was on

834
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:24,520
a porno movie.
I'm just saying it did look

835
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:29,000
good.
Oh, man, for for me, I think

836
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:33,400
what I was kind of not prepared
for, but I but I think I was

837
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:37,120
was, I think we went in the
yardage like getting as many

838
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:42,480
yards as them was shocking.
And then like dominating time of

839
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,520
possession with how good they,
you know, they sounds good.

840
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,840
I mean, he missed that tackle.
He took it right up on us, but

841
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:50,680
we won it.
We slowed the game down.

842
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,760
We got in our game plan to how
to play them.

843
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:59,600
So that kind of shocked me and
and not necessarily losing by

844
00:46:59,960 --> 00:47:02,280
losing by double digits was one
thing, but I told you all what

845
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,160
was going to happen.
We were going to fist fight this

846
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:07,040
thing and which they did and
then they were going to hit just

847
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,880
one big play late.
I said we did hit a play kick a

848
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:11,800
field goal.
They got a touchdown instead.

849
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,760
That's what I saw happening.
I saw a little bit, I saw a

850
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:19,800
little bit more scoring, but as
far as in the game with that's

851
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:23,800
exactly the the fourth quarter,
I oh, there you go.

852
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:28,520
That's a good one right here,
the safety, because they pounded

853
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,840
him on that.
But we wouldn't, we wouldn't -1

854
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:35,360
in that situation, not that it
mattered, but we still wouldn't

855
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:39,360
-1 All right, I know we're going
to hit on some of this when we

856
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,640
get on keys, but what's one
thing?

857
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,440
Jonathan Talley, we got to do
better moving forward.

858
00:47:47,720 --> 00:47:51,640
We got to score more touchdowns
than interceptions.

859
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:55,080
That's we probably need more
touchdown passes than

860
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,800
interceptions for sure.
We got to get some turnovers

861
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:59,920
too, you know, definitely got to
get some turnovers, I'll say

862
00:47:59,920 --> 00:48:02,200
that.
So I think that's what we need

863
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:07,160
to do to kind of in this game.
I don't even mean moving forward

864
00:48:07,240 --> 00:48:11,000
into the year, this game, we
need to get some turnovers.

865
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:16,040
Got it, Shelton.
Red zone offense it was it was

866
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:19,080
pretty bad.
I think I saw I saw a stat from

867
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:22,440
game on paper that our red zone
efficiency was like in the 9th

868
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:23,920
percentile of all games this
season.

869
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:26,880
So can't can't be settling for
field goals, got to score

870
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,000
touchdowns.
Yeah, score touchdowns, Ron

871
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,280
Ziegler.
I will.

872
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,240
I will put this in tandem.
Fewer turnovers and untimely

873
00:48:34,240 --> 00:48:37,400
penalties.
If you look at the way things

874
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:42,080
went down between the
unsportsmanlike and the

875
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:46,920
interception and then the
procedure penalty that resulted

876
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,240
in the repunt, that's about a 13
point swing there.

877
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:52,720
That's something you can't let
happen.

878
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,320
You got when you when you get in
the scoring area, you got to put

879
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,800
points on the board and you
can't let dumb penalties and

880
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:03,160
turnovers affect that all.
Right.

881
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:08,760
How can we wait a second?
I'm going to put Phil's up here.

882
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:12,120
Yes, yes, we have to complete
one more than one pass in their

883
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:16,520
territory 1000%.
I think the one thing for me

884
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:21,080
that I'll say that we did good
and I'll see us even do better.

885
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:28,400
One rush for a loss.
We had one rush where we lost

886
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shortage.
That wasn't the case last year.

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Even with Tootin, he got buried
in the back till numerous times

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we were.
And I think it's more impressive

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because we start looking at that
line and Stewart and Barrett and

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Thomas and saying so we say we
we stalemated at the line of

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scrimmage all every time but
one.

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And the one time was on the jet
suite, which Brian and Tally

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immediately said together in
tandem, we missed the blah.

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That's the only reason they got
a loss.

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But to me, do that moving
forward, continue to do that

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because if we're saying with
South Carolina, we're

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stalemating them holes are going
to get opened against some of

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these other defensive lines.
So let's keep that going.

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00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:12,680
I just wanted to mention real
quick before we get over to know

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the enemy couple recruits the
the kid down from Louisiana,

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Cole Bergeron, the six, four and
a half, 210 quarterback, three

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star, pretty good pick up.
I don't think I had that on my

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bingo card for recruiting this
year.

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And then the other one, I don't
know if I had this one either,

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but I think they're undervaluing
this kid because of, you know,

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probably because he's coming to
us, right?

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Tally, he's coming to us and
they ain't going to give him a

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four-star.
Andrew Rogers out of Grimsley

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down in Greensboro, 66240.
You know, he's like 3, somewhere

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above 400 in the national
rankings.

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He's a four-star composite.
I mean, 2 pretty good pickups in

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the class.
It's not going to be that big

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because I think now what we're
seeing is Virginia Tech is going

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to be 15 to 18 high school
recruits and it's going to be a

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lot of formal guys.
That's going to be our model

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00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,760
from now.
So anything on either one of

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these guys before we flip over
to this weekend?

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Robbie saying good, yeah, You up
there with him?

919
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,640
You up there with Robbie?
It's not far it off and right

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about a 45 minute drive, all
right.