Your boys Curtis and Brian dive right into the depths of the postponement of Fall football by the B1G and Pac12, how the other power 5 conferences are moving forward, and the implications that having or postponing a season will have on all stakeholders. They round things out with an assessment of the newest Hokie commits and their impressions on Coach Fuente's fall camp opening presser.
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Welcome back to the boundary
Corner podcast.
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My name is Curtis Wilson along
with my co-host Ryan.
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Siegel what's up buddy?
How you doing buddy?
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Sipping a brouhaha, listening to
the storm role here in the West
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End watching little sports on
TV.
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What about you, man?
Living the dream over here in,
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Mechanicsville had a little
little takeout Chinese for
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dinner.
Ooh, been just, you know, one of
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them Kickback night.
So I hadn't been too stressful
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at all buddy.
I do like a little bit of the
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storm rolling in though.
Oh yeah.
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I like summer storms of the best
man, and then, it's even really
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nice being in the cave.
Watching, little baseball like
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little basketball.
The hockey playoffs have begun
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tonight.
So, yeah, I already
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did that and then the rest of
them in a five-game series when
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I like the way they did it kind
of wish the NBA had did that I
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think would have been fun to see
like the you know the bottom two
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seeds playing to other seeds and
like a Seven-game Series.
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Yeah that'd be pretty sweet.
Sir wom you could do it dialed
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up a little bit more and get get
a little bit more.
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I don't know.
High-stakes.
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I guess although what damn lower
did last night you as a Lakers
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fan, I'm sure that was not like,
okay, this is what we're going
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to have to play in the front.
God yeah, yeah I mean day we
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keep talking shit to the
Clippers.
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That's all good.
He's not afraid to talk shit to
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anybody including the Skip
Bayless, Fu.
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Tweet this morning.
I was like Jesus and I read some
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things there skip doing.
What's get does is pretty funny,
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man.
How's your weekend?
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Do oh man, it was a pretty
relaxing weekend, man.
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Pretty relaxing weekend got a
little yard work done.
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Nothing too bad.
I did was fight a little bit of
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a stomach bug a couple days ago,
but we're past that now.
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All good.
Now, what about you?
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What about you?
I know you were out of town.
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Had some had some traveling.
Oh, yeah.
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Traveling my niece.
Got married this weekend down in
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40 as well.
Max Meadows area.
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So about 40 minutes, south of
Blacksburg wedding was
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beautiful.
I had a very interesting
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Adventure Friday night.
After the rehearsal dinner, we
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get back to the hotel room.
We are about to, we're slowly.
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Getting ready to get the boys a
bath, yet ourselves showers, and
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And the little one falls off
bumps his head.
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He cries seems okay.
Given bath, they play, they
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watch a little bit of TV and
then he called dinosaurs.
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And just, you know, the head
bump.
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So we ended up calling my sister
and the future mother, and my,
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the future, my niece's future
mother-in-law.
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They're both nurses.
Like if he bumped in threw up,
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just just take him in like you
don't want.
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Anything makes sense, right?
Well, he proceeded to do that
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two more times.
And, you know, I kind of
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sacrifice and said, honey, I'll
go into the hospital.
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So essentially, we were in there
till 3:00 a.m.
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All sorts of, you know, they
just come out.
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Yeah.
They you know they give they
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actually went with the CT scan,
everything was fine by 3:00 in
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the morning.
He was just fine but that made
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the next day.
Very long in the rest of the
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weekend, extremely long because
it's kind of funny.
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Brian scheduled drops, 30 me and
you Texas.
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Hey, Bryant anniversary.
You know, we're going to get
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some.
We're going to do a little bit
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of here, too.
House.
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You're like, oh cool.
Just do it.
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Something when we get back, I
text you, Sunday, tell you the
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situation.
You're like, oh God, put it off
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till Monday.
I will talk about schedule.
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Fun me.
And you start looking at Twitter
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feeds and news reports on Monday
and it's like oh shit all hell
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is breaking loose in college
football and it's like we text
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we call like we've got to put it
on.
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All along, we cannot start
discussing schedule and look
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like buffoons season gets called
season gets called or Emmy.
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Even if you know things get
pushed back to the spring, it's
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like, well now we've talked
about something that's not
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happening for six months.
All right.
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All right.
Yeah.
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And and I'm sure boundary Corner
listeners.
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You guys.
Probably right on top of it.
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Like, we are Pac-12.
Big Ten.
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Have typically postponed
canceled their Seasons until the
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spring at first.
But I'll give you just what your
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first thought when you saw it.
Big tenants first, followed by
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the Pac-12.
What was your like, what was
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your initial just thoughts on
it, like, just What changed
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since they just the big tent
brought out their schedule?
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Since I pulled out their
schedule likes.
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They're salivating discussing
who Peck 12, after dark games.
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Yeah, whoo.
Michigan.
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Ohio State, early, some other
good games are really, just,
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yeah.
Saying like what has changed?
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And I think we're going to hit
that in a few minutes here, but
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it was just like it was kind of
out of left field.
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It's even more out of left field
that they're doing.
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This.
They're doing this.
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Okay.
Cool.
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You doing.
So you're closing your
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universities, right?
Nah, not to my knowledge.
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I've not seen a lot of big
people.
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Come back and say, oh yeah, how
the state's virtual Michigan's
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virtual Penn State's virtual?
Seems like the students are
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still coming back.
So it seems like even the ones
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that are pushing to a mostly
online or full online situation
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or still, they still want the
students on campus.
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Yep.
Because some students have to be
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on campus for it seems like
there is a push for Anyone that
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came to be on campus to be on
campus, for whatever reason, my
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guess is some sort of monetary
reason.
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But that's neither here nor
there.
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But Curtis did, you did you see
some of the statements that came
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out as far as the reasoning?
Yeah.
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Let's let's let's let's both
read.
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Let's just read both statements.
Okay, I'm gonna do the Big 10
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run.
I think you have the Pac-12
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there.
So this is the fixed end
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statement.
The mental and physical Health.
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And Welfare of our
student-athletes has been at the
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center of every decision.
We have made regarding the
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ability to proceed forward as
time progressed, and after hours
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of discussion with our Big Ten
task force of, for emerging,
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infectious diseases, and the Big
Ten Sports Medicine committee.
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It became abundantly clear that
there was too much uncertainty
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regarding potential.
Medical risk, to our student
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athlete to compete this fall for
many months.
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We have hope to return to fall
Collegiate Sports might be An
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opportunity to restore some
sense of normalcy and provide
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brighter moments.
For our University, our city,
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our state.
The first statement there was
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from Kevin Warren.
The second statement there was
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from Wisconsin's Rebecca blank
with Barry Alvarez.
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Last kind of piece of that from
the Wisconsin folks even.
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So today's decision by the big
tent, postpone the fall 2020
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Sports season is the correct one
what the Pac-12 say?
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All right, so let's start with
Larry, Scott Pac-12,
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commissioner, health safety, and
well-being of our student
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athletes and all those connected
to the Pac-12.
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Sports has been our number one
priority since the start of this
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current crisis, our
student-athletes fans staff, and
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those who love college sports
would like to have seen the
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season played this calendar year
as originally planned.
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And we know how disappointing
this is.
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Then we also have from the
president of the University of
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Oregon, all the Pac-12
presidents and chancellors,
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understand the importance of
this decision.
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And the disappointment it will
create for our student-athletes
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the coaches, support staff and
all other fans.
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Ultimately, our decision was
Guided by science and a deep
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commitment to the Health and
Welfare of student athletes.
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We certainly hope that the
Pac-12 will be able to return to
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competition in the New Year.
All right, I'm going to say
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something for both.
The, if the well-being and was
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so much concern, we had to
cancel a bleep too.
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You bring them back on campus
two and a half months ago.
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Any explanation with that bright
any reasoning?
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No.
Because if, if you knew this was
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the ultimate outcome, or if you
knew you were, potentially still
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has this option on the table
without playing any games and
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seeing what was going to happen.
Then you shouldn't have brought
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them back and you definitely
shouldn't have put out a
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schedule like this season was
about to start up in five weeks.
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It's very true, you're already.
So you're already on mitigating
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your risk by doing that, we're
going to bring them on campus,
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we're going to do this.
We're going to have them
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trained, we're going to do all
this and it's like, well, hey,
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you said you were all about
their health and well-being, the
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most healthy and well-being
would have been no.
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Until we feel you guys are
secured a play.
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We're not going to bring you on
campus, they didn't.
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Yeah.
So there's a lot of hypocrisy in
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those statements in my opinion.
Yeah.
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I see something else playing out
here that seem to coincide a
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little bit with a lot of these
decisions.
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All, you know, we had players
that came together in the
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Pac-12, then later players that
came together in the Big Ten
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List of Demands talking about
potentially wanting to create a
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Association of college athletes
wanting to have a A universal
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protocol for covid Across the
Nation, just dictated by the
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conferences and then all of a
sudden that's when this The
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Winds of Change started to blow
through and you know a couple of
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these conferences get cold feet
because nothing in terms of the
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data that they were analyzing
change.
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At least to my knowledge nothing
has been put out that said okay
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well the numbers were here two
weeks ago and now they're here
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now.
I mean to my knowledge nothing
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is changed that would have
dictated a hey we're announcing
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the schedule in 48 hours.
We're meeting to determine
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whether or not we were going to
play this season.
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Absolutely the players making
those statements talking about
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banning together, talking about
having Association morning, a
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seat at the table.
Asking for more that to me, they
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can say all they want about.
Oh, it's liability dude.
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Your tongue My neighbor tonight,
man.
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I mean, you talked about it,
you're bringing kids back to
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campus blob abilities, already
their liabilities, there it is.
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You, as soon as they're on your
campus, you have some degree of
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liability saliva there, so it
kind of makes no sense.
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But then this happens and it's
almost like it's almost like
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these two conferences are
thinking you know what?
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We're going to try to squash
this.
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We're just going to end your
season.
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That's cool but they probably
haven't thought about is there's
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three other pretty big players
and we'll get to those in a
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little while.
But something night as we were
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as kind of the trickle start
talking about, potentially
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cancellations happening, say
what you want.
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I know people are saying he's
not the spokesman for the
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Collegiate football players, but
he is probably the biggest name
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and that was the Trevor Lawrence
statement.
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You don't mind Brian them.
Read his tweet real quick,
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pretty long people are at just
as much if not more risk.
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If we don't play players, will
all be sent home to their own
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communities, where social
distancing is highly unlikely
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and medical care and expenses
will be placed on the families.
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If they were to contract
covid-19 not to mention the
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players coming from the
situations that are not good for
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them.
And their future are having to
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go back to that football is a
safe havens of so many people.
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We're more likely to get the
Virus in everyday life than
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playing football having a
season, also incentivizes
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players mean safe and taking all
the right precautions and try to
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avoid Contracting covid because
the season teammates safety is
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on the line.
Without the season as we've seen
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already, people will not social
distance or wear masks or take
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proper precautions and a little
while later.
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The release on Monday we want to
play And that started a big
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movement amongst a bunch of
players whether it was seniors
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or underclassmen from players
across the country, both in
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conferences that were talking
about canceling and conferences
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that you know, had made that
move yet or weren't having those
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discussions to that degree at
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So, you know, we saw you know,
for Virginia Tech trade turning
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was kind of the leader on that
front for us stepping up making
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that statement And a lot of
other guys followed suit on the
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team.
So I think a lot of the guys on
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the team want to play.
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And not just, I think the
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takeaway from this whole thing,
especially the, we want to play
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part of it is the whole idea of
we're supportive of people that
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want to opt out but give us the
option to opt in.
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Yeah, that I think that's that's
that's kind of the biggest
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takeaway from what most people
were saying, you know, they're
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There are some some degrees of
wanting to have a little bit
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more communication and say, So
within the framework of what
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this season is going to look at
look like.
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And that was part of what Trevor
Lawrence tweeted out, that was
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part of what some of these other
guys tweeted out.
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But I think, like I said, the
underlying thing there though,
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as I think you know we need to
be supportive of guys that want
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to opt out.
We need to be supportive of guys
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that want to opt in and let's
figure out how to do this as
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safely as we can.
That is absolutely correct in
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this situation.
There is no wrong answer of what
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they want to do.
You want to opt out because
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there's you just don't feel
safe, your, you want to be able
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to be around your family.
You know, you know you have some
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underlying medical things that
in normal circumstances really
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wouldn't be a factor that's
fine.
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You want opt-in because listen,
I love this game.
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I'm a sophomore.
I need this season to create my
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draft stock.
I don't have the season to
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create my draft stock.
I'm sitting here next year.
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I'm not maybe it's one of these
guys isn't that how the boards?
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But if they go out and have a
breakout season, Caleb 40, last
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year, if he goes out and balls
last season, and now he is
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looked at as a first-round guy.
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That in the sophomore season,
he's already built the day but
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they're guys who don't have that
chance.
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And those are the guys that that
kind of needed.
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And then the way Trevor talked
about being sent home because
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the weird part is right now, you
know Clemson is not going to let
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kids on campus until the 22nd.
Or was it the 15th or 22nd
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September.
I'm assuming a lot of these guys
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can't stay there or if they're
staying.
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Yeah, you know and if they can
stay there, that's fine.
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But then there's more Cochran.
See hey, you can't play
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football.
We'll go home.
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Well, you know you know you need
to stay here because we're going
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to keep training.
What is with the big Ten's?
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Do you still going to train 20
hours a week like?
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Yeah.
And you know, let's talk about
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Blacksburg a little bit here.
I mean we're talking about
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roughly 20,000 potentially
students being on campus or in
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the Blacksburg area between
whether it's off campus housing
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student athletes incoming
freshman.
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You know, for the most part they
are going virtual classes.
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But at the same time, they still
are expected to be on campus.
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Yep.
Because there are certain
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resources that they may or may
not be able to access from a
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remote location.
And they, I think in a lot of
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ways, they, they make more money
off of students when they're on
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campus.
So that's that that's been a
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theme of unfortunately, to a -
extent that's been a theme of
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what we've been seeing.
A academic side of this.
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And the organizational side is
that Virginia Tech is in some
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cases, not been the greatest at,
I guess giving the students a
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little bit of a bit relief.
When it comes to the financial
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side of things.
It's almost like they have
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ratcheted up the financials, you
know, to twist the the screws
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into the students while giving
them a product that is less than
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what they've been accustomed.
To in the past.
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So that's a problem as well.
But you know, we're again, we're
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talking about 20,000 people in
the greater Blacksburg area.
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That weren't there a month ago.
Yep, and athletes that even if
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they play or not are expected to
stay on campus.
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Yeah, you can't tell me that the
structure that a football season
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has is not better for the
athletes than whatever, not
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having a season that's going to
be.
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And that's Been my point of view
here is that, you know, I don't
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think people understand that for
the most part even during the
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season a student athletes day is
very regimented.
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And you've got, you know,
morning lift or morning run,
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you've got class, you've got
lunch, you've got class, you've
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got film, you've got practice,
you've got another bill, you've
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got study hall, study all you
got, you got trainers.
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I mean, there's so much that
you're doing in a Typical day.
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You know, there's not a lot of
hours that you're calling your
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own where you can make even
those bad choices.
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So you know, that type of
structure is going to be good in
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these scenarios.
You know, I get the potential
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added risk of being in close
proximity with 80 other people
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during practice and, you know,
55 people on a trip.
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But at the same time, if you're
not doing that, There's a very
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good likelihood that you're
going to be in close proximity
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with people in dorm rooms in
close proximity with people in
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common areas or areas where food
is served.
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Most people with more free time
on their hand or going to end up
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doing more social activities and
it's going to create more
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interactions.
So at some point we need to take
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take stock of if they're on
campus together, they're at
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risk.
Regardless of whether football
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is being played or not absolute
and and you made.
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So Any point about the
regiment's rigid schedules.
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But also they don't see what the
big 10 PAC 12 has done is
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they've taken the carrot away
from the players.
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Yeah, they put it away instead
of saying, Hey, listen, you guys
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need to be very disciplined.
You need to wear your mask, you
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need to social distance, you
need to wash your hands.
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You need to do all these things,
so you can play.
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So you can put that tape out
there.
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They don't have it anymore.
Even the normal student body
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doesn't have that more at those
universities because you know
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what, even though the Horseshoe
the big house often Zoo, there
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are no, there's gonna be nobody
this year.
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You don't tell me those kids
want to sit in their dorm rooms
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and hang out with their
roommates and watch the game.
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Where's the incentive?
Now, to be more rigid.
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Where somebody's you see a
player walk on campus?
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Like, I will get, I need to pull
up my mask.
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And he did, I need to think
about this because I want to see
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my University.
Play the football game.
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If there's no carrots, just kind
of like, well, okay, what do we
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do?
What we should do these things.
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Yeah.
But what's the incentive?
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Well, you don't want to get it.
Well, nobody wants to get it.
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Jesus.
Lord.
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But to your point, Take all that
away, even 20 hours a week like
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the big Ten's doing, they're
going to have a lot more down
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time, they're going to be
hanging out with a lot more
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people.
I guarantee you someone to be a
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bars parties other social
events.
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I heard Barton Simmons, 24/7 guy
today say it, he says and, and I
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hope he's right.
He says, I really hope the Big
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12, the ACC in the SEC can pull
it off, and he said, here's why.
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Because then, you're going to
have a comparison.
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If the Big Ten in the Pac-12,
continue to test as did the
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eighth because clearly, if
they're playing, they're going
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to be testing to three times a
week.
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Yeah.
Who have more cases by the end
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of semester and he says, you
want to make a bet.
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He's like, I'll make a bet make
a bet it's going to be those
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schools playing, because those
kids have incentive for the
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other school, do not.
And I'm with that.
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Yeah, I'm with that 100%.
I'm gonna get some real talk to
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you go.
And you can attest to this
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because you witnessed some of
it.
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Firsthand.
Real talk, some football
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players, drink and do drugs.
No shit.
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Also, real talk when it was the
season.
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Most of those people that did
those things did not do those
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things.
And there was a unofficial rule
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by the coaching staff that after
Wednesday's practice, you don't
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touch alcohol till after the
game.
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And you will be surprised the
number of football players that
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didn't you one of them?
Exactly Curtis can attest
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thirsty.
Thursday.
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I was a DD many times mr.
Siegel on Friday nights before
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games, my first year at
Longwood, you could not sleep,
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your you were jacked, you needed
about four hours of sleep, which
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means used to get back to your
dorm room about what, 3 a.m. you
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drive over and just like where
you need to go tonight, man.
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And I'm just like Brother didn't
uh he didn't touch a drop of
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alcohol.
You just hung out you chitchat
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it.
Now usually after the game you'd
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be like hit me up about 5:00.
I don't know nothing because
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I've been up for but you get, it
was set out there and run your
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time while you were playing.
Did you ever have anybody get
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busted?
And basically, I'm sure the
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coaches were like, bye.
You're not playing.
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Yeah.
We had a couple guys that that
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set out at least the first half
of some games or set out the
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whole game.
Mmmmm.
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We had a couple guys that got
put in the the Farmville jail
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overnight for being drunk in
public.
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And you know the funny story was
you know the first thing we had
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one guy was a real jokes or so.
The first thing you ask we got
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put in there you like I want a
Bible in a copy of the
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Constitution brought to my cell
now gz.
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But again you just make the
point the rules out there and
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I'm sure Rule would have been
out there of for those schools
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playing after we test on
Wednesday, you need to be
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nowhere else.
You need to be your class where
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you sleep or on the facilities
but it's gone.
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Now for them.
Now for the other conference is
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Braun.
Lot came down after the Big Ten
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statement.
Now let's start with the course
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the ACC released from the
Atlantic Coast Conference of
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statement.
Aunt, the ACC will continue to
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make decisions based on medical
advice, inclusive to our medical
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Advisory Group local and State
Health guidelines, and do.
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So in a way that appropriately
coincides with the University's
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academic missions, the safety of
our students and overall campus
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communities will be our top
priority.
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And we are pleased with the
protocols being administered by
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our 15 campuses.
We will continue to follow our
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process and has been placed for
months and it's served us.
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Well, we understand the need to
stay flexible if you To adjust
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medical information in the
landscape of balls, that was
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only from the whole committee
committee.
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And then there was a statement
from essentially, the guy
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leading, this group, his name is
dr.
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Cameron wolf, he is a Duke
infectious disease specialist
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and basically his, you hear what
he's saying?
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It gives you some hope he says
that we believe that we can
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mitigate it down to the level.
That makes everyone's safe.
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Can we safely have two teams
meet on the field.
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And I will say yes.
Will it be tough?
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Yes.
Will it be expensive and hard
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and lots of work for sure, but I
do believe you can sufficiently
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mitigate the risk of bringing
covid onto the football field or
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into training rooms at a level
that is no different than an
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already thing.
As a student on campus, a couple
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other things.
You said are Bron, I know you
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read the article but I just want
to highlight these for those who
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didn't.
You can't tell me that run went
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to a football.
Ball field is supposed to be a
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zero risk environment.
Yes.
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Look at all the other regular
sporting injuries that we accept
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00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,600
it as a certain level of risk as
part of the parcel of football.
453
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:04,600
Now the reality is we have to
accept a little bit of covid
454
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:09,300
risk to be part of that.
Did it discusses the concerns
455
00:27:09,300 --> 00:27:12,400
about myocarditis that
inflammation of the heart.
456
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:21,800
And you know, that is a concern.
but, Brian.
457
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:26,700
Does it shock you that a virus
could cause myocarditis?
458
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,200
No.
Because anything up to the
459
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,800
common cold can cause
myocarditis.
460
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:37,500
So shocking most anything that
is a virus that causes any sort
461
00:27:37,500 --> 00:27:43,400
of fever can potentially cause
myocarditis so does it does not
462
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,600
Shock me.
One bit covid could potentially,
463
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,200
cause it's because it calls it
at a higher risk.
464
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,300
Potentially, that's probably
something we're not going to for
465
00:27:50,300 --> 00:27:53,600
15 years.
Yeah, that that's just honest,
466
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,000
there's things.
We learned everyday things.
467
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:58,500
We are you shooting probably eat
that.
468
00:27:58,500 --> 00:28:01,900
It causes this crap.
Let me not me not by that meat
469
00:28:01,900 --> 00:28:03,500
anymore.
Let Me by turkey.
470
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,200
There's things we've had now
passed, like, you know,
471
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,100
sicknesses and now we're having
problems.
472
00:28:09,100 --> 00:28:11,100
And you get asked about.
Have you ever had this before?
473
00:28:11,100 --> 00:28:12,600
Well, yeah, I had it when I was
in my twenties.
474
00:28:13,100 --> 00:28:15,500
You're seeing them after
effects. 15 years later.
475
00:28:15,900 --> 00:28:18,200
That's, that's can be shocking
to anyone.
476
00:28:18,500 --> 00:28:21,100
It shouldn't be.
And should we take this to the
477
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:22,200
Seriously.
Yes.
478
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:26,000
But if you're trying to look for
every wrong term thing, then
479
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,900
you're never going to leave your
house ever again.
480
00:28:28,300 --> 00:28:32,700
Because every day there is
something that you did 10 years
481
00:28:32,700 --> 00:28:34,000
ago, that could affect you
today.
482
00:28:34,300 --> 00:28:38,300
So don't give me that.
Now this guy Cameron wolf
483
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:42,700
legitimately first of all he's
not a good old southern boy.
484
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,100
He is actually an Australian
which so anybody trying to pay
485
00:28:46,100 --> 00:28:52,100
the original southern boy, huh?
The Originals Well, he's just
486
00:28:52,100 --> 00:28:54,600
doing whatever they say to get
this season and I wouldn't say
487
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,500
that he's from Australia, he
graduated from University of
488
00:28:57,508 --> 00:29:00,800
Melbourne, back in 2000 and he's
been a fellow at the infectious
489
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:05,200
diseases at Duke.
Since 2007, as essentially that
490
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:09,700
was where he did his work and if
you look like I didn't see some
491
00:29:09,700 --> 00:29:13,300
of his Publications, he's
already done some stuff on
492
00:29:13,300 --> 00:29:15,400
covid.
He's done some other things
493
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:20,300
concerning, you know, some
cardiac stuff, the guy's smart,
494
00:29:21,300 --> 00:29:26,200
and, You know, you hear him in
the words that he's talking
495
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:30,700
about of how to play, he's
already putting it out, there it
496
00:29:30,700 --> 00:29:34,200
is going to be tough and I'm
sure what he's preaching is what
497
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,500
they're preaching inside those
facilities in the ACC, like you
498
00:29:37,500 --> 00:29:39,700
can't screw up.
This is going to be hard, this
499
00:29:39,700 --> 00:29:43,700
is going to be tough unlikely
one or two slips, it could
500
00:29:43,700 --> 00:29:50,100
embassies just know that and You
know, he's also a realist with
501
00:29:50,100 --> 00:29:54,700
some of the other stuff.
So you know, the guy that's
502
00:29:54,700 --> 00:29:57,500
leading the ACC you hear his
background.
503
00:29:57,700 --> 00:30:00,800
You see you know what he has
studied.
504
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,800
You also see think I sent it to
you today.
505
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:08,100
Brian.
The read Stephen, the drug that
506
00:30:08,100 --> 00:30:11,500
g odd.
He was one of the phase three
507
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,400
doctors on that.
They're trying to get that FDA
508
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:20,200
approved and You know, reading
the article and having a couple
509
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,700
discussions with some people in
the medical field, you know who
510
00:30:23,700 --> 00:30:26,300
you are.
I would have shouted you out,
511
00:30:26,300 --> 00:30:28,900
but I can't because I didn't ask
you.
512
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,800
It's not a, it's not a game
changer, it's not but the the
513
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,600
way you put it was it's going to
help strain on the hospital's.
514
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,200
It's a game changer.
So I'm going to cure it as snot
515
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,400
this great drug but it's going
to help a little bit and when
516
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,100
you hear God, he's doing that
type of work.
517
00:30:46,300 --> 00:30:50,000
It tells me that The guy that's
leading this, if he ever feel
518
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,800
that there is a situation where
it can't be done, he's going to
519
00:30:52,808 --> 00:30:55,100
come out and just say it because
I don't think he will put his
520
00:30:55,100 --> 00:30:58,400
career out.
Yeah, for one football season.
521
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,100
Yeah, my takeaway from reading
that it is that it had the
522
00:31:04,100 --> 00:31:08,600
potential to be helpful in the
same way that had Roxy
523
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,600
chloroquine is, but without the
side effects that come with that
524
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:17,400
in a lot of cases, we want to go
any deeper than that on this
525
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:23,100
subject because just mentioning
that word is has political
526
00:31:23,100 --> 00:31:25,700
connotations that we're not
trying to get down that that
527
00:31:25,700 --> 00:31:29,500
path right now.
But just based on the Russians
528
00:31:29,500 --> 00:31:32,500
you had in the reading.
I've done it kind of that's the
529
00:31:32,500 --> 00:31:36,600
idea is that the idea is to get
those hospital stays either
530
00:31:37,100 --> 00:31:42,900
lower or to mitigate something
that is manageable, come
531
00:31:42,900 --> 00:31:44,600
becoming something that's not
manageable.
532
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,000
So you know if that boost for
that's a good thing and
533
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,600
obviously having someone with
that level of knowledge, on the
534
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:57,300
subject, being the person that's
in the decision, chair for this,
535
00:31:57,300 --> 00:32:01,500
for the ACC is pretty big.
The brown week we heard.
536
00:32:01,500 --> 00:32:05,900
What do you know of a top guy at
the S at the ACC has said, the
537
00:32:05,900 --> 00:32:08,800
guy who's leading it?
What is the SEC said about this?
538
00:32:09,300 --> 00:32:13,900
So there commissioner came out
Greg Sankey I look forward to
539
00:32:13,900 --> 00:32:17,400
learning more about the factors
that led the Big Ten and Pac-12
540
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,000
leadership to take these
actions.
541
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:23,400
Today, I remain comfortable with
the thorough and deliberate
542
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,800
approach that the SEC and are 14
members are taking to support a
543
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,900
healthy environment for our
student-athletes.
544
00:32:29,500 --> 00:32:32,000
We will continue to further
refine our policies and
545
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,000
protocols for a safe, return to
sports.
546
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,800
As we monitor developments and
covid-19 in a continued effort
547
00:32:37,808 --> 00:32:41,000
to support, educate and care for
our student-athletes every day.
548
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:45,300
They have not released their
schedule yet, but they have
549
00:32:45,300 --> 00:32:49,700
never really moved off of the
fact that they were going to be
550
00:32:49,700 --> 00:32:55,600
playing have a given us the
dates yet which sucks damn just
551
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,200
release it.
We need to know when these games
552
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,500
are ya there?
They've been some discussions
553
00:33:00,500 --> 00:33:03,100
because I'm looking now at the
Big 12 schedule.
554
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,900
There's already been a couple
discussions like couple of like
555
00:33:06,900 --> 00:33:13,600
the week we play UNC.
It's like us UNC FSU Carolina or
556
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:19,100
do FSU Notre Dame.
Mm, couple of the Big 12.
557
00:33:19,100 --> 00:33:21,400
It's like a couple really big
games that we can see there's
558
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,600
any SEC games of note that week,
it's going to be a packed
559
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,800
weekend.
It's gonna be like get you get
560
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,200
you get your bottle ready.
And because to a bathroom
561
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,300
because you're not going to
leave the TV for probably close
562
00:33:34,300 --> 00:33:36,900
to 12 hours.
Get yourself three TVs in one
563
00:33:36,900 --> 00:33:38,800
room.
You got to have a command center
564
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,300
got to.
All right, so he said that
565
00:33:43,300 --> 00:33:50,400
clearly, they're pushing forward
but the big big Domino that
566
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:54,300
people thought might fall after.
The first two was the big 12.
567
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,600
B12 came out today because of
presidents are going to allow
568
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:02,300
the conference to move forward
toward a season, and a revised.
569
00:34:02,300 --> 00:34:05,800
Big 12 schedule is going to be
released after approval from the
570
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,800
ades.
After tonight's meetings,
571
00:34:08,300 --> 00:34:13,699
schedules released, they are
going to start the 26th of Big
572
00:34:13,699 --> 00:34:15,900
12 Play.
I think they have games leading
573
00:34:15,900 --> 00:34:18,000
up to that in the few prior
weeks.
574
00:34:18,199 --> 00:34:20,900
Yep.
You know what they're doing 9
575
00:34:20,900 --> 00:34:23,699
plus 1, right?
They're doing on plus 1, they
576
00:34:23,699 --> 00:34:26,400
play everybody anyway.
But they're doing the additional
577
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:30,100
game but they're doing that
before the they're not unlike
578
00:34:30,100 --> 00:34:33,800
the ACC or the acc's essentially
letting the plus ones be
579
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,000
wherever.
Yep.
580
00:34:35,300 --> 00:34:38,400
Big 12 is like it's either going
to be the weekend of the 19th or
581
00:34:38,408 --> 00:34:40,000
the 12th.
You're getting a warm up.
582
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,699
This is when you're playing tell
you one thing they didn't do.
583
00:34:44,199 --> 00:34:47,100
Well if you didn't fuck a team
like they did the ACC and have a
584
00:34:47,100 --> 00:34:48,900
bye week as the last week of the
season.
585
00:34:49,500 --> 00:34:52,600
That's true.
Is there normal, though?
586
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,800
They play everybody play.
That's 19.
587
00:34:55,000 --> 00:35:01,000
Teams first weekend, I mean, I
see debris.
588
00:35:01,500 --> 00:35:08,200
Very interesting games with
Iowa, State TCU, Oklahoma,
589
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:15,400
Kansas State and Okie State
versus West Virginia, you know?
590
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,400
That's that.
Kansas State beat Oklahoma last
591
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,000
year about what fourth week,
fifth week of the Season.
592
00:35:21,300 --> 00:35:23,300
Yeah.
Like, there's freaking Oklahoma
593
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:28,300
me, and you text on that, We're
like they cannot stop the run,
594
00:35:30,100 --> 00:35:37,100
do something, do something you
have lime and loved it because
595
00:35:37,100 --> 00:35:38,900
it's just like they are just a
man.
596
00:35:38,900 --> 00:35:43,200
I elating them in the trenches
but then you're like, like, this
597
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,400
is terrible.
Like, you could do like load the
598
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,300
box, fill the gaps, make them
throw the ball like man.
599
00:35:48,300 --> 00:35:52,100
Nothing.
So after that, Domino kind of
600
00:35:52,100 --> 00:35:54,100
I'm not going to say fall but
after that, Domino kind of
601
00:35:54,100 --> 00:35:57,500
stands.
We've now got three teams that
602
00:35:57,500 --> 00:35:59,700
are essentially are moving
forward.
603
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:04,300
The power 3, the power 3, you
know.
604
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:08,700
So we see that.
But you know for those for the
605
00:36:08,700 --> 00:36:13,200
Pac-12 in the Big Ten you know
they're saying we're looking at
606
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:18,300
a spring season.
Hey Brian you played football up
607
00:36:18,300 --> 00:36:20,400
until you were in your, you
know, early 20s.
608
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:25,100
Is there any possible way
minimum could have t minimum We
609
00:36:25,100 --> 00:36:32,100
played 19/20 games in the course
of eight months.
610
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:37,600
No, okay.
Shall I?
611
00:36:37,607 --> 00:36:41,500
Elaborate you can, elaborate, if
you want, go for it, go for it.
612
00:36:41,500 --> 00:36:48,300
Just just so people understand.
Okay, so number one, if you play
613
00:36:48,300 --> 00:36:51,700
in the spring, your best players
will not be playing, because
614
00:36:51,700 --> 00:36:58,500
they will be preparing for the
draft. so, Ohio state will have
615
00:36:59,100 --> 00:37:05,000
Justin Fields by soon.
The big left tackle out of
616
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:06,600
Oregon.
Absolutely.
617
00:37:06,700 --> 00:37:09,900
He's going to be an absolute
freak in the NFL by Bateman.
618
00:37:09,900 --> 00:37:12,700
Who's already opted out in
Minnesota, one of the top
619
00:37:12,700 --> 00:37:16,900
receivers, goodbye, Michael
Parsons all World linebacker
620
00:37:16,900 --> 00:37:21,100
Penn State goodbye.
You know, I scroll down a little
621
00:37:21,100 --> 00:37:25,800
more here, you know, the Walker
little offensive, lineman out of
622
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,400
Stanford.
No, they're not going to.
623
00:37:27,500 --> 00:37:31,800
Play know.
So Don't get me wrong.
624
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,700
Do you go from your your best
players playing in the fall
625
00:37:35,700 --> 00:37:39,800
potentially opted out to 100%?
They're all opting out.
626
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,900
They will not, they will not
play.
627
00:37:43,300 --> 00:37:45,700
That's not even counting the
people.
628
00:37:45,700 --> 00:37:50,400
If we still haven't had this
discussion what if we're not
629
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,600
completely out of covid, there's
probably going to be some kids
630
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:59,100
that say, not, I'm opting out,
I'm not going to play, there's
631
00:37:59,100 --> 00:38:00,700
still going to be underclassmen
opt out.
632
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:06,200
You also talk about.
So I liked it, I liked the term
633
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,300
this.
There's a cycle of an NFL season
634
00:38:09,300 --> 00:38:12,300
and then the cycle of an NFL
offseason, there's a cycle of a
635
00:38:12,300 --> 00:38:15,000
Collegiate season in the cycle
of the Collegiate offseason.
636
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,700
And what you're essentially
saying is that you don't get a
637
00:38:19,700 --> 00:38:23,300
offseason, I mean, you're
talking about playing games from
638
00:38:23,300 --> 00:38:28,800
January to early April and then,
having two months before you're
639
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:34,000
gearing up for fall All Camp.
Well, let's just talk about this
640
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,000
Mo.
Let's just go through the normal
641
00:38:37,500 --> 00:38:40,200
beginning of a year.
Most teams their last game is in
642
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,600
January, whether it be early or
a couple weeks in if you want.
643
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,800
Play in the national
championship, how much it, how
644
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,700
much you're usually given how
much of a break you probably get
645
00:38:48,700 --> 00:38:51,600
two to three weeks after the
season ends?
646
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:56,100
No, yeah, nothing.
You might do your, you might be
647
00:38:56,100 --> 00:38:59,300
doing stuff on your own, but
there's no organized activities.
648
00:38:59,700 --> 00:39:02,500
I mean, you're expected to Not
gained 30 pounds.
649
00:39:02,500 --> 00:39:08,200
But at the same time, you're not
expected to be in game shape
650
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,900
either.
So you've got three weeks where
651
00:39:10,900 --> 00:39:15,100
you're pretty much, you're just
working out to not become a fat
652
00:39:15,100 --> 00:39:20,200
ass, but there's nothing
organized about it.
653
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,300
There's no, there's no team
activities.
654
00:39:22,300 --> 00:39:24,900
It's, it's essentially don't
gained a ton of weight over the
655
00:39:24,900 --> 00:39:30,100
holidays, but then, even after
that you you kind of mentioned
656
00:39:30,100 --> 00:39:31,600
to me when we were We were
talking about this.
657
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,500
It's A build-up, you're not
going out there after the third
658
00:39:34,500 --> 00:39:37,100
second, third or fourth week,
you're not going full bore.
659
00:39:37,300 --> 00:39:41,400
No, it's a gradual in the month
of February, kind of a gradual
660
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:45,600
lead up for two or three weeks
and then the last few weeks
661
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:49,300
you're going hard, but then
after that, after that, we see
662
00:39:49,300 --> 00:39:53,000
we see Hogarth photos every year
as Virginia Tech fans but then
663
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,600
what happens in early March dial
it back a little bit.
664
00:39:57,300 --> 00:39:58,800
You get ready for spring
practice.
665
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:03,100
You take about a week off, that
you're not doing those as much
666
00:40:03,100 --> 00:40:07,100
of those official activities and
then you're rolling into, you
667
00:40:07,107 --> 00:40:12,500
know, spring practice Spring
ball where things become more
668
00:40:12,500 --> 00:40:14,900
regimented.
Again, you're looking at, you
669
00:40:14,900 --> 00:40:17,200
know, lift you're looking at
film sessions and you have
670
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,400
actual practices in that period
of time.
671
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:24,900
But again, these are practices
where you're going hard but it's
672
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:29,400
Still not a prepping for the
week situation and it's
673
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:34,800
definitely not a fall Camp.
We're going to run you ragged to
674
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,700
the point where, you know, we're
trying to get you in shape for
675
00:40:37,700 --> 00:40:41,500
the next 10 to 12 weeks of a
season type situation.
676
00:40:41,500 --> 00:40:45,300
So, Spring ball is still a
little different in that aspect
677
00:40:45,300 --> 00:40:48,800
because it is more about the
prepping, the learning, the
678
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:53,400
getting your body, right?
And seeing kind of what you can
679
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:59,800
and what you can't do versus Has
those hardcore battles that you
680
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:03,300
sometimes see in Fall Camp?
Leading up to the start of the
681
00:41:03,300 --> 00:41:05,400
Season?
Absolutely, but then even after
682
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,500
that you're talking about
usually it's met in the early
683
00:41:08,500 --> 00:41:10,700
parts of June where they're
getting their get to ballot back
684
00:41:10,700 --> 00:41:14,100
to not.
It's very little organized, then
685
00:41:14,100 --> 00:41:16,700
they get into June.
Most kids are getting back on
686
00:41:16,700 --> 00:41:18,200
campus.
Now some have vacations and
687
00:41:18,207 --> 00:41:20,900
stuff but that's when you're
seeing will organize stuff
688
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:26,100
leading into August.
Yeah, I mean, You mentioned that
689
00:41:26,100 --> 00:41:30,200
there's just no way.
The guys bodies their 1822
690
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,100
year-olds.
That's a couple other guys.
691
00:41:32,900 --> 00:41:36,800
You know, when people talk about
the NFL, you mentioned to me the
692
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,400
way you mention, say how you
said it earlier because when you
693
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:45,300
set it at made like this logical
graduated effect, if it back
694
00:41:45,300 --> 00:41:51,100
just like in terms of like a
State athlete coming through the
695
00:41:51,100 --> 00:41:53,400
year.
So a middle school most six or
696
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,700
seven games in a typical Season
plus, whatever sort of
697
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,200
championship game potentially
that they have on the on the
698
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:01,800
field.
So somewhere between six and
699
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,300
eight games you played JV you're
talking about an eight game
700
00:42:04,300 --> 00:42:07,000
schedule with the potential
championship game.
701
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,700
When they're then Varsity, you
got 10 plus, whatever the state
702
00:42:09,700 --> 00:42:15,000
playoffs are depending on how
far you go, you get to College,
703
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,700
it's a 12-game season for most
people, plus, whatever bowl
704
00:42:18,700 --> 00:42:24,100
games, or games you have there.
So there's a, there's a
705
00:42:24,100 --> 00:42:28,500
graduated of Act of, as you get
older you're adding game.
706
00:42:28,500 --> 00:42:31,100
So your body is getting more
used to it gradually.
707
00:42:31,500 --> 00:42:34,600
Now, what you're essentially
saying here is that instead of
708
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:38,600
like in the NFL, where you have
a group of rookies that are
709
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,100
getting used to a 16-game
schedule, plus whatever the
710
00:42:41,100 --> 00:42:46,000
playoffs is, you're talking
about your entire roster is
711
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:51,700
adjusting to that because you're
playing 20 games in what nine
712
00:42:51,700 --> 00:42:54,200
calendar months, ten calendar
months, whatever it is.
713
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:58,800
I mean, and you're only getting
about two to three months in the
714
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,100
middle there.
And we had some point, your body
715
00:43:02,100 --> 00:43:05,000
needs to recover and it needs to
recover and that it needs to
716
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:10,100
build a foundation towards that
next season and you're not
717
00:43:10,100 --> 00:43:11,700
getting that by playing in the
spring.
718
00:43:11,700 --> 00:43:15,500
So I think there's inherent
medical problems that could come
719
00:43:15,500 --> 00:43:20,300
from that, whether it be not
having enough time for a serious
720
00:43:20,300 --> 00:43:21,500
injury.
I mean, you're essentially
721
00:43:21,500 --> 00:43:24,600
saying, if you get a serious
injury in the spring, you're not
722
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,100
playing in the fall.
No.
723
00:43:26,100 --> 00:43:29,600
Not like, I mean, we're not
talking about just like things
724
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,200
like Achilles.
These are ACLS or things like
725
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:36,100
that, we're talking about
anything that requires more than
726
00:43:36,100 --> 00:43:40,400
a tweak timeframe, you're
potentially jeopardizing part of
727
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,500
your next season in the recovery
process.
728
00:43:44,100 --> 00:43:47,200
I mean, absolutely.
So, you know, we've already kind
729
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:51,800
of hit on money, you know, some
people are saying, you know, how
730
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:56,000
is this going to affect?
You know, we've already it's
731
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,600
going to affect communities
doing say it's not even a
732
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,900
question, you're going to see
for those in those communities
733
00:44:02,900 --> 00:44:05,300
up there.
Potentially, you could go back
734
00:44:05,300 --> 00:44:09,700
in two years and the bars that
you like to go to is gone, you
735
00:44:09,700 --> 00:44:11,900
know, the little mom-and-pop
shop, you always stopped at
736
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,200
before you tailgate.
It is gone.
737
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,000
That's the dire consequences of
the money part.
738
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:23,100
Now as far as the school's go
I've told you my opinion run
739
00:44:23,100 --> 00:44:26,500
numerous times just on off
conversations if you were to
740
00:44:26,500 --> 00:44:29,700
tell me right now, the ACC were
to cancel football this year.
741
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,900
Here's exactly what I think, the
athletic department, Virginia
742
00:44:32,900 --> 00:44:36,200
Tech looks like I'm non-revenue
sports or cut.
743
00:44:36,700 --> 00:44:39,400
There will be five sports left
five.
744
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,600
Which got six?
Excuse me, I missed one there.
745
00:44:45,300 --> 00:44:49,000
Clearly football.
Men's basketball women's
746
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:53,700
basketball.
Baseball softball in wrestling.
747
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,300
That would be it.
That would be the only ones left
748
00:44:57,900 --> 00:45:01,100
a softball baseball.
You do get enough of a crowd to
749
00:45:01,100 --> 00:45:05,100
probably cover the expenses of a
season on the wrestling
750
00:45:05,100 --> 00:45:06,900
programs.
Have a very good line of
751
00:45:06,900 --> 00:45:11,400
boosters that you see donate.
It's also the top two, top tier
752
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,400
program, you're not going to get
rid of that.
753
00:45:13,700 --> 00:45:16,000
And then clearly the basketball
programs, you always have the
754
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,100
option with March Madness to
Bringing extra money to pay for
755
00:45:19,100 --> 00:45:21,700
the program.
That's a lot of sports cut.
756
00:45:21,700 --> 00:45:24,900
And I think you would see that
at most every school that there
757
00:45:24,900 --> 00:45:29,300
would be a bare-bones minimum
and I think you would still see
758
00:45:29,300 --> 00:45:32,700
have to see austerity measures
put in place on a lot of the
759
00:45:32,700 --> 00:45:37,500
programs, even to maintain that,
whether it be coaches, coaches,
760
00:45:37,500 --> 00:45:40,900
taking a percent cut for a
season, you know, whatever.
761
00:45:40,900 --> 00:45:42,800
It may be.
I think you would still have to
762
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:47,600
see that even if you have to
operate without the non revs.
763
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,200
So I mean, I think you're right
on track.
764
00:45:50,300 --> 00:45:52,000
Back there.
I mean, I think that's going to
765
00:45:52,008 --> 00:45:55,000
be option.
Number one is to get the, the
766
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,200
non revs cut and it's
unfortunate.
767
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:03,100
But at some point, The money's
got to come from somewhere.
768
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:07,800
Yeah.
And you're not going to cut
769
00:46:08,700 --> 00:46:12,600
sports, that have the potential
to bring in revenue for the
770
00:46:12,607 --> 00:46:16,900
school.
So at some point if there's
771
00:46:16,900 --> 00:46:20,400
operating costs without anything
coming back in, it doesn't make
772
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:25,400
sense to tell someone else you
have to take a 40% pay cut
773
00:46:25,900 --> 00:46:28,000
because we've got a fund this
thing over here.
774
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,000
I mean, at some point that
that's the decision.
775
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:34,400
Going to have to be made, you
know, we talked about, you know,
776
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,600
the schools and the money.
I mean, let's talk a little bit
777
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:43,700
about how some of the player
agency is worked in this, in
778
00:46:43,700 --> 00:46:47,000
this whole thing.
Both from, you know, we talked
779
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:50,500
about earlier with the opting
out and then wanting to opt in
780
00:46:50,500 --> 00:46:53,600
and things like that.
But also, you know, we had a
781
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:57,700
little bit of an update here
about NCAA eligibility that came
782
00:46:57,700 --> 00:47:01,100
out just before we started
recording here, you know?
783
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:06,000
Looking at a potential of guys
that play less than 50% of the
784
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,900
Season, whether it be because
they opted out after they
785
00:47:08,900 --> 00:47:11,300
started or whether it be because
the season was shut down,
786
00:47:11,300 --> 00:47:15,700
getting essentially an extra
year of Eligibility on top of
787
00:47:15,700 --> 00:47:18,900
the five years that they're
initially granted by the NCAA.
788
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,700
Well.
So how does that work?
789
00:47:21,700 --> 00:47:26,100
Perfectly in the screen?
It's not stated in this.
790
00:47:26,100 --> 00:47:31,400
It's not stated in this in this
state and it looks like like
791
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:32,800
that.
I don't think that's official
792
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,600
yet, but that's what the board
for division.
793
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:39,300
One Intercollegiate Athletics
for the NCAA has presented.
794
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:47,600
Now while we're on the topic of
NCAA holy shit what a rudderless
795
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,600
clusterfuck they have been in
this whole thing.
796
00:47:50,900 --> 00:47:54,900
Now what I didn't expect, here's
what I didn't expect, I never
797
00:47:54,900 --> 00:47:58,300
expected them to come out and
say here's the plan.
798
00:47:58,300 --> 00:48:00,000
All conferences have to follow
this.
799
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:04,000
I never expected that.
Because let's face it, the NCM
800
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,800
double-a does not have that type
of leadership ever.
801
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,900
They never they never been that
type of leadership, but what I
802
00:48:09,900 --> 00:48:15,900
did expect is, hey, here's maybe
some some minimum type
803
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:21,000
parameters and protocols that we
want you to issue or, you know,
804
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,000
here's our opinion on the
subject.
805
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,100
You do that with what you will.
Yeah.
806
00:48:25,100 --> 00:48:29,000
But they're essentially playing
the zero liability game here and
807
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:33,100
saying if we don't say anything.
Thing about what conferences
808
00:48:33,100 --> 00:48:35,400
decide to do.
We have zero liability and what
809
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,500
happens should things go?
South the only thing the
810
00:48:38,500 --> 00:48:42,300
assholes have said is you can't
make kids sign a waiver of
811
00:48:42,300 --> 00:48:46,600
liability.
Okay, let's all is the only
812
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:50,200
thing they've said, which is
kind of like, you know, you're
813
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,700
putting the conferences and even
a tougher spot because now
814
00:48:53,700 --> 00:48:55,600
because the comment you do
schools can lay out.
815
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:59,100
Listen, you sign this cancels.
It's your decision to play.
816
00:48:59,900 --> 00:49:01,000
If you don't want to play, you
can sign.
817
00:49:01,300 --> 00:49:03,800
An opt out or you can opt out
and that's fine.
818
00:49:03,900 --> 00:49:06,000
You know, it's funny.
There's a I mean I had to sign a
819
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,600
medical waiver when when I
played football.
820
00:49:10,700 --> 00:49:13,500
So it's interesting that that's
not something they could apply
821
00:49:13,500 --> 00:49:15,900
here.
But yeah, I mean I understand
822
00:49:15,900 --> 00:49:19,300
that there are certain things
that essentially as long as
823
00:49:19,300 --> 00:49:24,900
there was no gross negligence by
a university or anything that
824
00:49:24,900 --> 00:49:28,800
happened on the field.
Then that's that's what it is.
825
00:49:29,500 --> 00:49:34,000
Well I mean, you know, We see
all this in and, you know,
826
00:49:34,300 --> 00:49:36,900
they're they've done nothing.
So let's just throw them out
827
00:49:36,900 --> 00:49:39,800
because they're worthless
basically, but I'm going to ask
828
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:41,800
you this.
The conference is make the
829
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,500
money.
NCAA does not make the money.
830
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,800
Yeah, seeing them even more
without structure without power.
831
00:49:49,500 --> 00:49:54,600
And I talked to my neighbor
tonight, he's a UVA and of e.t.
832
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:58,400
grad.
And it is, is this when the
833
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:02,300
power 5 break off, and just say
you guys are morons, you have no
834
00:50:02,300 --> 00:50:05,000
structure, we're going to create
our own.
835
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,200
We're going to essentially,
we're gonna have a commissioner.
836
00:50:08,300 --> 00:50:09,800
They're going to give us
guidelines, they're going to
837
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,600
give us protocols.
They're going to give us
838
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,800
everything we need to do.
Could this happen?
839
00:50:15,100 --> 00:50:16,500
Could we thank you?
I think it got.
840
00:50:16,500 --> 00:50:21,300
Think you're going to see
potentially up to three things
841
00:50:21,300 --> 00:50:23,300
coming out of this whole
debacle.
842
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,600
You're potentially going to see.
Organization in some way, shape
843
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:31,600
or form.
Even if it's not a union quote
844
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:36,000
marks there there, I think there
will be some some type of player
845
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,900
input more than what is in
place.
846
00:50:38,900 --> 00:50:43,600
Now, for the both at the
conference level and at the NCAA
847
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:49,300
level, I think there's the
potential to expand and maybe
848
00:50:49,300 --> 00:50:54,000
even refined further some of the
ideas of name image and likeness
849
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,800
and potentially Direct That's
two players.
850
00:50:58,700 --> 00:51:02,400
You know, at this point the
conference's are assuming some
851
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,200
risk.
The players are assuming more
852
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:07,200
risk than that, the ncaa's
assuming nothing.
853
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,300
Exactly.
So at this point, if we're
854
00:51:10,300 --> 00:51:13,200
talking about these as separate
institutions, I think you could
855
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,400
see the players having a little
bit more leverage here.
856
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:20,200
Like, they've essentially been
asserting leading up to this.
857
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:23,200
So, that would be in play.
And then, lastly, as you've
858
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,800
already mentioned, conference
Lee real.
859
00:51:25,900 --> 00:51:29,100
I meant breaking off of the
power 5 is away from the NCAA
860
00:51:29,100 --> 00:51:35,200
altogether potentially reforming
you know super conferences
861
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:39,200
depending on how that alignment
shakes out that that's that's
862
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,400
another conversation.
But yeah I definitely think
863
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,700
there's going to be some degree
of Fallout from this.
864
00:51:45,100 --> 00:51:48,200
In another question is the Big
Ten even going to exist?
865
00:51:49,700 --> 00:51:52,000
You see in Nebraska and things
like that.
866
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,700
And I'm not sure how that's
going to look coach day is seen.
867
00:51:55,900 --> 00:52:00,700
I'm to fall in line as has Penn
State but I don't know if the
868
00:52:00,700 --> 00:52:04,000
guys at Michigan and some of the
other schools are going to you
869
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,800
know, fall right in line.
So that's going to be
870
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:10,400
interesting to see.
Not only I don't think it's
871
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,500
going to be a quick death but I
think you're going to start
872
00:52:13,500 --> 00:52:19,900
seeing if there's not some sort
of leadership adjustment made
873
00:52:19,900 --> 00:52:24,500
for this conference, there's
going to be T schools that get
874
00:52:24,500 --> 00:52:29,500
wet feet about their Ation.
Yeah, my opinion is it could be
875
00:52:29,500 --> 00:52:34,500
dead quick because they're about
to lose 150 million dollars in
876
00:52:34,500 --> 00:52:37,400
revenue.
And I'm going to and people say,
877
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:41,100
well, what about basketball?
Um, they pretty much already
878
00:52:41,100 --> 00:52:42,900
laid it out.
It's not safe to play sports.
879
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:50,000
Unless there's a vaccine unless
there is a significant change in
880
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:53,300
what's going on with covid in
the next, you know what?
881
00:52:53,300 --> 00:52:54,600
Four months.
Yeah.
882
00:52:54,700 --> 00:52:57,600
How many basketball they've
already.
883
00:52:57,700 --> 00:53:00,300
They've already put themselves
behind the eight ball on that.
884
00:53:00,900 --> 00:53:05,800
So 250 million dollars out
revenues just to shit.
885
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:07,900
You see the leadership?
They're coming out and they're
886
00:53:07,900 --> 00:53:11,200
we got to cut.
It's also a perception of the
887
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,100
players.
Tell me.
888
00:53:13,300 --> 00:53:16,500
Right now, if you're a player
and it's going to be in their
889
00:53:16,500 --> 00:53:18,700
head, you know, we started
talking about organizing and
890
00:53:18,700 --> 00:53:21,700
want to seat at the table.
These sons of bitches just ended
891
00:53:21,700 --> 00:53:25,800
it like done, we're not playing
this year, the other three
892
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:27,500
companies are trying to push
forward.
893
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,300
They haven't mentioned anything
about a player organization, but
894
00:53:30,300 --> 00:53:34,000
they're trying to put forward.
It clearly did not scare them to
895
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:37,500
a point of any shut it down.
We're going to say medical
896
00:53:37,500 --> 00:53:41,000
reasons, you know, we see the
cause and effect.
897
00:53:41,100 --> 00:53:43,900
Well, the joke was that, you
know, SEC has been Dropping bags
898
00:53:43,900 --> 00:53:45,300
already.
They're not afraid of a little
899
00:53:45,300 --> 00:53:50,400
bit organization.
Know, we could we could but we
900
00:53:50,400 --> 00:54:05,500
don't
and we've got one just down the
901
00:54:05,500 --> 00:54:12,200
street on Henderson.
Hey dude, that's where you're
902
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:15,200
going, right?
They've already canceled
903
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:22,200
football this year done, there's
no way to play currently with
904
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:26,100
them.
So if you go down spring are you
905
00:54:26,100 --> 00:54:28,600
can play Spring ball?
Well, I'll find role early.
906
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,300
Yeah.
But what if that takes a year of
907
00:54:30,308 --> 00:54:32,200
Eligibility out?
Are you gonna play?
908
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:36,000
I don't know.
It's going to be an again.
909
00:54:36,300 --> 00:54:39,900
If you start here in the SEC,
the ACC in the Big 12 talk about
910
00:54:39,900 --> 00:54:42,100
hey we're bringing our players
to our meetings, they're going
911
00:54:42,100 --> 00:54:44,400
to start hearing things, they're
going to start on getting Shal.
912
00:54:44,900 --> 00:54:47,800
Hey, are we doing this?
Then they're going to have to
913
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:52,500
answer that question and if they
say well no, this is your
914
00:54:52,500 --> 00:54:54,300
student athlete.
Oh cool.
915
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,600
Let me, let me back out of my
commitment then because you're
916
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:03,000
seeing me just as this, the
other conferences are looking at
917
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:06,500
me in something else.
They've already had, they've
918
00:55:06,500 --> 00:55:09,500
already lost one.
I want to see the transfer
919
00:55:09,500 --> 00:55:16,500
Portal 2 because, you know,
maybe not for this year.
920
00:55:16,500 --> 00:55:23,000
But again, for next year, Can I
say the Run what you got?
921
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:28,000
Delusion, 50 million dollars.
How do you run a business
922
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:33,500
without Revenue?
You can not So we've already
923
00:55:33,500 --> 00:55:35,600
talked about, they're going to
cut in on red sports.
924
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:40,500
You can ask coach has to pay
cuts, then they're probably
925
00:55:40,500 --> 00:55:44,200
going to start letting go of
trainers and Facilities people
926
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:49,000
because we've got to make budget
athletic Department's cannot run
927
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:50,900
in debt.
They have to be level.
928
00:55:51,500 --> 00:55:54,500
Yep, that's why you here so long
when they're building these
929
00:55:54,500 --> 00:55:55,900
buildings are paying for it out,
right?
930
00:55:55,900 --> 00:55:57,400
Well, how?
Well, they've been slowly saving
931
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:02,800
the money to build these things.
Big donors, come in. it's
932
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:10,000
eventually, it could get to a
level where I have committed to
933
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:14,700
the University of Give me one.
That's not one of the big names
934
00:56:14,700 --> 00:56:18,600
run.
In the Big Jim.
935
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:22,200
Sure.
Let's go with lemon soda.
936
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:26,400
I'm coming to Minnesota.
Awesome, going to be, great to
937
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,800
have you here.
We need to put half your tuition
938
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:33,700
for the first three years.
What do you mean?
939
00:56:34,700 --> 00:56:38,500
We're cutting everything.
We lost 60 million dollars in a
940
00:56:38,500 --> 00:56:41,600
year.
We don't have the operational
941
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,000
budget.
We've cut the non revs, we've
942
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:48,100
cut our staff, salaries, we've
cut this, we've cut that, you
943
00:56:48,107 --> 00:56:52,100
know, there's only one way and
that's going to be you have to
944
00:56:52,100 --> 00:56:54,000
pay for part of your
scholarship.
945
00:56:54,300 --> 00:56:59,500
This happens in a lot of non rev
Sports where players get 20 30 %
946
00:56:59,500 --> 00:57:01,500
of their scholarship?
The rest they pay on their own.
947
00:57:02,900 --> 00:57:06,700
Now, any big one because you
committed to get somebody for a
948
00:57:06,707 --> 00:57:11,600
committed and you know they
can't pay full scholarship.
949
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,100
You did me nice to make your
mom.
950
00:57:13,100 --> 00:57:15,500
Write that check.
Come here.
951
00:57:15,500 --> 00:57:18,600
You don't have to It's going to
get ugly.
952
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:20,900
It could get ugly, man.
You're right.
953
00:57:20,900 --> 00:57:24,100
You could definitely get ugly.
And like I said the I feel like
954
00:57:24,500 --> 00:57:28,700
the Big Ten is going to have
more trouble than than the
955
00:57:28,700 --> 00:57:34,400
Pac-12 on that front.
Just because they do have The
956
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:40,500
big dogs that could negotiate
themselves into other
957
00:57:40,500 --> 00:57:43,200
conferences in the short term.
Yep.
958
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:48,800
I don't think the Pac-12 has
teams with the motivation to do
959
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:53,000
so.
And I think just the nature
960
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,700
geographically, I don't think
you'll see as much of a mass
961
00:57:55,700 --> 00:57:59,600
Exodus in the transfer portal
just because there's not as many
962
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:03,500
overlapping boundaries of the
conferences with the Pac-12.
963
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:06,700
Versus the rest of the country.
It's very much a isolated
964
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:10,600
conference geographically.
Whereas a lot of the other
965
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:14,000
conferences in the power 5,
especially there's there's
966
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:17,100
overlap between states, there's
overlap between regions and
967
00:58:17,100 --> 00:58:20,000
things like that.
So, you know, a guy that was
968
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:23,900
playing at Penn State
transferring to Syracuse, or
969
00:58:23,900 --> 00:58:27,300
Virginia Tech or wherever it may
be.
970
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:30,600
That's not much of a stretch not
at all and you.
971
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:33,900
Absolutely right man.
By that let's-let's-let's Move
972
00:58:33,900 --> 00:58:37,900
on Braun.
I kind of feel like the caliph
973
00:58:37,900 --> 00:58:45,100
Lori Fallout.
He was almost the The wheel.
974
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:50,700
The the small snowball that
started this when he decided to
975
00:58:50,700 --> 00:58:55,800
opt out a lot of Fallout.
I'll let you go to it.
976
00:58:55,900 --> 00:59:00,800
You think of the way, some
people chose to.
977
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:03,800
I don't know, the way to put it,
Braun.
978
00:59:04,700 --> 00:59:09,400
They chose to pick and choose
what Caleb said and run with it.
979
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:12,600
Well, I feel like it started
with the original article with
980
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:16,900
with P of T, you know, that's
where it came from, the, the
981
00:59:16,900 --> 00:59:21,100
quotes about, you know, whatever
was happening on the field and
982
00:59:21,100 --> 00:59:23,300
guys going to Myrtle Beach and
all that came out.
983
00:59:23,300 --> 00:59:27,800
Yes, it came from words that
Caleb wrote but it seemed like
984
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:32,100
based on some of the additional
commentary.
985
00:59:32,100 --> 00:59:36,700
We got that that was kind of
like cherry-picked lines.
986
00:59:36,700 --> 00:59:41,300
Amongst a much larger statement
that was made and, you know,
987
00:59:41,300 --> 00:59:46,600
we've seen kind Of what PFT has
been doing with their coverage
988
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:51,700
of covid and what they think
about what a season should or
989
00:59:51,700 --> 00:59:53,100
should not look like in this
case.
990
00:59:53,100 --> 00:59:59,000
So I'm not saying that it was a
politically motivated or a.
991
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:04,700
See I told you so type story but
it kind of definitely kind of
992
01:00:04,700 --> 01:00:07,000
felt like that it felt like a
couple of the guys in the
993
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:13,900
Virginia writers kind of ran
with it and then You know, you
994
01:00:13,900 --> 01:00:18,500
get some, some additional
information to turns out that it
995
01:00:18,500 --> 01:00:25,200
wasn't between the Zodiac, alt
article in the Roanoke Times and
996
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:28,600
what happened on the The Today
Show, it's like, okay, well,
997
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:32,300
that's a slightly different
narrative than what we were
998
01:00:32,300 --> 01:00:34,700
seeing at first.
And I mean, I know the fallback
999
01:00:34,700 --> 01:00:37,500
was yes, it was Caleb's words.
All we did was report them.
1000
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:40,900
Yeah.
But you also selectively
1001
01:00:40,900 --> 01:00:44,800
reported what?
Was being played up at the media
1002
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:49,600
at large and not given Source
out the additional comment
1003
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:54,400
commentary you did.
Try to contact the Virginia Tech
1004
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:58,000
athletic department, which is
another debacle that will talk
1005
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:03,500
about right now.
Why do we have such a hard time
1006
01:01:03,500 --> 01:01:06,300
of getting in front of a story?
No clue.
1007
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,800
The only thing you can say is
whoever's running.
1008
01:01:10,500 --> 01:01:17,100
The pr does not know what
they're doing at all, because it
1009
01:01:17,100 --> 01:01:21,600
seems very odd to say this if
you put me in charge of PR FL, I
1010
01:01:21,607 --> 01:01:25,400
could be stuff I do because I
don't know exactly how to do
1011
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:30,000
that saying that there are some
things we knew the second that
1012
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:33,700
Caleb said coach Opted out first
thing that should have been
1013
01:01:33,700 --> 01:01:36,000
done.
Okay, let's sit right there.
1014
01:01:36,100 --> 01:01:39,100
Call PR Caleb's opting out.
We're going to make a statement
1015
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:41,500
with it.
Yeah, because you will, he was
1016
01:01:41,500 --> 01:01:45,700
going to make one you why we
fight.
1017
01:01:46,900 --> 01:01:50,700
We've had the conversation.
I want to put a press release
1018
01:01:50,700 --> 01:01:51,400
out of here.
Okay.
1019
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,200
With it.
Or when you make your press
1020
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:57,000
release, I want us to release at
the same time so we're on, we're
1021
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:58,500
in lock step of what we're doing
here.
1022
01:01:58,900 --> 01:02:05,900
So yeah, you know, No, you know,
it's just one of those things
1023
01:02:05,900 --> 01:02:08,700
where it feels like, this is
where we need to catch up to the
1024
01:02:08,700 --> 01:02:17,600
times, you listen to the Hokie
hangover podcast with what the
1025
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:24,200
mic and Ricky - Ricky with date.
But we've talking about the way
1026
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:28,100
they run donations.
He's like, this is Mom and Pops.
1027
01:02:29,100 --> 01:02:31,200
Look what you have here.
You can't run this, like,
1028
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:33,900
mom-and-pop, you have to run
this like a corporation.
1029
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:36,000
This is what it feels like with
the pr.
1030
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:39,900
Now, luckily, my name is Ola
crushed.
1031
01:02:39,900 --> 01:02:45,200
This how cold was on Today?
Show crushed it because I
1032
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:48,400
watched that, and if you read
and then Saul Caleb's word, you
1033
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:52,000
be like this guy didn't say the
this is not right.
1034
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:57,500
Very complimentary of Coach.
Mike went deep into it and you
1035
01:02:57,500 --> 01:03:03,700
know, It's sort of it sort of
died quick because when all that
1036
01:03:03,700 --> 01:03:06,100
stuff came out, it was just kind
of like, oh, it's a nothing
1037
01:03:06,100 --> 01:03:08,100
Burger.
We got the bad press, we
1038
01:03:08,100 --> 01:03:11,700
probably not going to get a
positive press to keep it going.
1039
01:03:11,700 --> 01:03:16,600
But you know what?
It got resolved and best of luck
1040
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:19,000
to Caleb.
I do think he is going to be a
1041
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:22,400
star in the NFL because you
don't teach running 24, miles,
1042
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:24,900
an hour.
No, he's in this star, dude.
1043
01:03:24,900 --> 01:03:28,700
He's going to be a big-time star
and just to like piggyback a A
1044
01:03:28,700 --> 01:03:31,400
bit on that man.
It's frustrating.
1045
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:34,200
Because when you don't have good
PR and when you don't get in
1046
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:38,500
front of a story, everything
that comes out after that feels
1047
01:03:38,500 --> 01:03:41,700
like damage control, even when
it's not absolutely.
1048
01:03:41,700 --> 01:03:45,700
Either the thing about, you
know, honoring a player's
1049
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:48,600
scholarship, even if they opt
out, we had already made that
1050
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:51,500
decision days before.
Caleb even announced.
1051
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:56,200
Yeah, and yet, that wasn't
something that was stated
1052
01:03:56,200 --> 01:04:01,000
publicly until after this hole.
- story hit.
1053
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:05,600
So that's something.
If you just communicate a little
1054
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:10,000
bit more, let things be known.
You know, it's not grandstanding
1055
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:12,400
or patting yourself on the back.
Sometimes it's just stating here
1056
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:14,600
is our policy.
Yep.
1057
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:16,400
You know, you don't have to look
at everything.
1058
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:19,300
That is a positive as something
that, you know, you don't want
1059
01:04:19,300 --> 01:04:20,600
to be back.
Slapping yourself.
1060
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:23,900
No, just State your policy be
transparent.
1061
01:04:23,900 --> 01:04:26,600
So that way, if there is a
situation like this, you've
1062
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:28,500
already got it in print.
That, that's your decision.
1063
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:31,600
And you don't look like you're
covering your ass after the
1064
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:33,400
fact.
Absolutely.
1065
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:36,300
And you feel like it's it's it
is slowly changing.
1066
01:04:36,300 --> 01:04:38,800
The door is slowly opening but
not fast enough.
1067
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:42,400
You know, I think what they need
to understand is you can you can
1068
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:44,800
open it up.
It's almost The French Door
1069
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:47,200
aspect.
You can open up this side where
1070
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:50,500
people can see in and keep the
other one closed or crack to a
1071
01:04:50,508 --> 01:04:52,400
point where they can't see
everything.
1072
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:54,600
Yeah.
Um, so yeah.
1073
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:57,700
Alright.
So let's do some hokey headlines
1074
01:04:57,700 --> 01:05:00,100
here.
Lots of stuff going on, but
1075
01:05:00,100 --> 01:05:04,200
we've had some good news.
The first brine guy, you like a
1076
01:05:04,207 --> 01:05:07,700
lot Cole.
Nelson, commits to the Hokies
1077
01:05:07,700 --> 01:05:10,900
the three-star out of
Alpharetta, Georgia down at
1078
01:05:10,900 --> 01:05:16,800
Johns Creek, 63 230, defensive
end, you know?
1079
01:05:17,100 --> 01:05:19,800
Not a lot of big offers solid
rating.
1080
01:05:20,700 --> 01:05:24,400
What do you think we're getting
from a from Coleman?
1081
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:28,100
I mean he's underrated guys, I
think I mean, I'm not saying
1082
01:05:28,100 --> 01:05:33,400
that just blow smoke up your ass
here, rated 86.
1083
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:34,900
I mean, I think he's better than
that.
1084
01:05:34,900 --> 01:05:37,300
He's going to be a guy that's
going to make some plays for us,
1085
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:40,000
probably pretty quick in the
process.
1086
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:42,200
I like him.
Probably in the same ballpark as
1087
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:46,400
I liked, you know, the tape on a
leak, Bryant in a lot of cases.
1088
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:50,100
So I feel like they're the same
type of player from a from a
1089
01:05:50,107 --> 01:05:52,600
size perspective perspective and
what they like to do on the
1090
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:54,300
field.
So I think we're getting a
1091
01:05:54,308 --> 01:05:55,600
really good price.
Aspect with him.
1092
01:05:55,600 --> 01:06:00,500
I'm looking forward to getting
him in Blacksburg, you know,
1093
01:06:00,500 --> 01:06:05,000
once we close out this year,
hopefully, we can get some, some
1094
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:08,900
traction on getting some more
official visits here, for a lot
1095
01:06:08,900 --> 01:06:10,700
of these kids.
I know he's already visited once
1096
01:06:10,700 --> 01:06:14,500
I believe, but it'll be nice to
get some of these kids back on
1097
01:06:14,500 --> 01:06:17,100
campus, even if it's not to
watch a game.
1098
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:20,100
Yep, just to get on back.
Home can to get them.
1099
01:06:20,100 --> 01:06:22,200
Comfortable.
Surroundings would be awesome.
1100
01:06:22,700 --> 01:06:25,300
And you look at it.
It's 63 230.
1101
01:06:25,300 --> 01:06:27,100
He's not far away from a
playing.
1102
01:06:27,100 --> 01:06:30,300
Wait, you probably even feel
comfortable saying if he comes
1103
01:06:30,300 --> 01:06:33,400
in first year.
Weighing 235 pounds and he chose
1104
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:36,700
good, you can find ways to get
him on the field.
1105
01:06:37,900 --> 01:06:43,000
I do think, I think we are to
we're a week away from bump.
1106
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:46,200
For 24/7.
There are many things.
1107
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:49,700
I think you could see him, maybe
go up a little bit but either
1108
01:06:49,700 --> 01:06:54,600
way, it's a steal loving that
wasn't where it ended though.
1109
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:59,100
With recruits brine we got one
of the old lineman price good,
1110
01:06:59,100 --> 01:07:04,400
no Athens Tennessee, McMinn High
School, no rating or 24/7.
1111
01:07:04,900 --> 01:07:08,000
So we always do in there is no
rated Guy, Brian.
1112
01:07:08,700 --> 01:07:11,900
Where is the tape?
Look at the tape your number.
1113
01:07:12,300 --> 01:07:16,600
All right. 63 300, big boy, big
board.
1114
01:07:17,300 --> 01:07:21,400
This is a guy that pushes folks
around.
1115
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:26,400
He gets out, I watched a couple
plays where he was out there
1116
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:30,000
leading leading on a couple of
sweeps and this guy can get out
1117
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:36,000
in space and block but just
inside the tackles, he can push
1118
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:38,700
put folks around.
I really like this guy.
1119
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:42,000
He was on.
Who was the only Sons?
1120
01:07:42,100 --> 01:07:43,400
He's always Sun.
Yeah.
1121
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:47,000
And just right away.
As soon as he's been a hokey, he
1122
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:51,400
just seems like he's, he's like
that prototypical like Hokey
1123
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:54,100
offensive lineman from a
mentality standpoint, I really
1124
01:07:54,100 --> 01:07:56,500
dig that.
So I'm excited about this guy.
1125
01:07:56,900 --> 01:07:59,800
I think he's going to be
probably about 85 86.
1126
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:03,800
Okay, initial ranking.
I think he's, you know, it's
1127
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:05,900
shocking that he doesn't have
something out there.
1128
01:08:06,700 --> 01:08:10,000
I don't, I don't think he's
going to be in a low three-star
1129
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:13,600
range, but I don't think he's
quite in that Fringe 34.
1130
01:08:13,700 --> 01:08:17,200
Area either I think he's kind of
writing that 85 range but if he
1131
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:21,399
can clean up past Pro, if he can
clean up past Pro, he's gonna be
1132
01:08:21,399 --> 01:08:26,100
a monster because he can
definitely run block like very
1133
01:08:26,100 --> 01:08:29,000
few.
People can coming in something
1134
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:32,600
else.
He was he said on son, Shout Out
1135
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:37,100
Billy Pat Grayson by Stone.
He's going to play center and
1136
01:08:37,100 --> 01:08:41,600
Brawn when I'm gonna rattle off
a few things where he has offers
1137
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:43,600
from and tell me if it's
jockeys.
1138
01:08:43,700 --> 01:08:47,800
It's enter the Air Force
Academy, the Naval Academy
1139
01:08:48,500 --> 01:08:54,200
harvard-yale, pin Cornell.
Does it shock you that they're
1140
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:56,300
moving him to center?
Now, he's got something
1141
01:08:56,300 --> 01:08:57,899
upstairs, he's will be making
some calls.
1142
01:08:59,399 --> 01:09:02,200
Yeah, he's already.
Got the sighs you've already
1143
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:03,800
talked about.
His run blocking is getting in
1144
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:06,100
the past Pro.
Let me ask this Prime because
1145
01:09:06,100 --> 01:09:07,600
you talked about that's what he
needs to clean up.
1146
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:10,600
Will he have less to clean up
that he's going to be going even
1147
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:13,500
further inside?
It's definitely.
1148
01:09:13,700 --> 01:09:16,500
Owing to help because he has
less to do with said more about
1149
01:09:16,500 --> 01:09:20,000
just the technique and being
able to, you know, snap his head
1150
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:23,700
back, get a good punch, make
sure that there's no initial
1151
01:09:23,700 --> 01:09:27,300
penetration on the interior
because that's where you used to
1152
01:09:27,308 --> 01:09:30,200
establish a pocket at the front
front, half of the line there.
1153
01:09:30,300 --> 01:09:33,600
I mean, I know there's been a
lot of talk about, you know,
1154
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:37,800
comparing him with Brock in
terms of like that motor and
1155
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:41,200
being able to just completely
take over a guy on the inside
1156
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:44,300
from a running perspective.
So I think moving Him insides
1157
01:09:44,300 --> 01:09:48,100
going to help him leverage some
of that, some of the struggles.
1158
01:09:48,100 --> 01:09:50,100
He may have in the, in the, in
pass blocking.
1159
01:09:50,100 --> 01:09:51,700
So I think it's gonna be a good
thing for him.
1160
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:54,800
Yeah.
I'm ready to will see him get
1161
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:58,300
that recruiting bump in a week
from now.
1162
01:09:58,300 --> 01:10:00,100
I'll see the Hokies ratings go
up.
1163
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:04,200
Although this guy Nexon talk
about Brian, he's not a high
1164
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:08,800
school guy, but an FCS transfer
from Villanova changa Hodge
1165
01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:12,100
transferring in.
If he can play this year 6-1
1166
01:10:12,100 --> 01:10:20,800
200-pound Last year of Villanova
65 receptions. 1118 yards. 13
1167
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:25,800
touchdowns on.
Yep, he's taking the step up
1168
01:10:29,700 --> 01:10:32,700
those numbers.
That's a see a schedule.
1169
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:35,300
Yeah.
Yeah.
1170
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:42,300
Let me see eight catches 134
yards.
1171
01:10:44,300 --> 01:10:46,900
And they lit him up for 390,
total passing yards in that
1172
01:10:46,900 --> 01:10:50,400
game.
So he accounted for about 40% of
1173
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:53,500
those yards, that's a pretty big
thing there.
1174
01:10:53,500 --> 01:10:59,400
I mean it looks like he runs
really good routes really good
1175
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:01,700
against, you know, one-on-one
impress.
1176
01:11:01,700 --> 01:11:04,900
So I like what he's doing.
I mean I'm not sure if he's
1177
01:11:04,900 --> 01:11:07,700
going to be a guy that's going
to press for you know the first
1178
01:11:07,700 --> 01:11:10,800
three wide receivers on the
field but definitely is going to
1179
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:13,200
help with our depth, which is
what we need a lot after some of
1180
01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:16,800
our Archers.
So you know nothing to complain
1181
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:20,800
about their love that.
Absolutely, I'm trying to figure
1182
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:23,100
this out because I'm looking at
it here.
1183
01:11:24,500 --> 01:11:28,300
Is he a junior this year or is
he a senior this year?
1184
01:11:29,500 --> 01:11:34,200
That is a great question.
From all I've heard is that he
1185
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:37,800
was immediately eligible.
So you know, you talk about
1186
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:40,400
building depth and in some mouth
while I'm looking this up.
1187
01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:43,800
Is this going to become a trend
to?
1188
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:48,800
Our guys at the FCS level who
have breakout Seasons going to
1189
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:54,200
bust their asses to graduate and
get one or two years of
1190
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:59,900
Eligibility at the FBS level.
If they put the production out
1191
01:11:59,900 --> 01:12:03,800
there, I mean we're starting to
see it a lot more and I think as
1192
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:08,800
more and more FBS teams get used
to the transfer portal.
1193
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:13,100
We're starting to see a lot more
of it and I think in the past we
1194
01:12:13,100 --> 01:12:16,900
saw, you know, T might take a
chance here or a chance there on
1195
01:12:16,900 --> 01:12:20,100
these players, but I think with
the transfer portal and guys
1196
01:12:20,100 --> 01:12:23,500
that are already, you know, your
roster is already more fluid
1197
01:12:23,500 --> 01:12:25,900
than it used to be.
So you're going to take these
1198
01:12:25,900 --> 01:12:31,900
risk on guys, that have a big
body of work versus maybe a guy,
1199
01:12:31,900 --> 01:12:35,100
that's more of a project that
has potential but hasn't shown
1200
01:12:35,100 --> 01:12:37,400
it on the field.
So you're usually weighing that
1201
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:40,800
in terms of the transfer portal.
You got I mean really do you see
1202
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:42,900
like true stars in the transfer
portal?
1203
01:12:42,900 --> 01:12:47,400
Usually you see guys that Had
eather are with power five teams
1204
01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:52,700
that either had a decent season,
or, you know, sparked here and
1205
01:12:52,700 --> 01:12:53,800
there.
But didn't get a lot of
1206
01:12:53,808 --> 01:12:58,300
opportunities that want to
potentially see their their reps
1207
01:12:58,300 --> 01:13:03,400
go up or they want to start
somewhere else or, you know guys
1208
01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:07,600
like, you know, changa Hodge
here that had a really good
1209
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:11,600
season at a Villanova that wants
to step up their game to the
1210
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:16,000
next level and any And he gets a
chance this year because when
1211
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:20,900
the FCS cancels well I'm going
to try to shop myself.
1212
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:24,800
He is a senior but in this what
we just read with the
1213
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:28,000
eligibility, if he's not quite
there you want to make a bet
1214
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:30,200
that they don't say hey dude
just chill.
1215
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:31,400
You're not going to play this
year.
1216
01:13:31,700 --> 01:13:33,900
You'll go through spring.
You'll go through a full fall
1217
01:13:33,900 --> 01:13:38,200
camp and you'll have the
opportunity to play next year as
1218
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:43,400
a redshirt senior.
So I like it man.
1219
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:46,400
I like it.
Now Brian would also has
1220
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:50,500
happened.
Is our head coach Justin Fuente
1221
01:13:50,500 --> 01:13:53,500
at his first press conference
and said of couple things.
1222
01:13:57,000 --> 01:14:02,800
The ones that did not shocked
with a kind of shocked me that
1223
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:05,900
because again, it's quiet.
You don't hear much Jaden
1224
01:14:05,900 --> 01:14:08,900
Cunningham.
Essentially injured, his
1225
01:14:08,900 --> 01:14:12,200
Achilles Last Winter, he still
recovering.
1226
01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:16,100
He will not be, he's going to be
doing online classes.
1227
01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:20,700
And again, the way everything
we're reading, if he doesn't
1228
01:14:20,700 --> 01:14:23,200
play, he still has two more
years of Eligibility, which
1229
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:25,900
essentially helps long-term with
the fence.
1230
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:30,400
Of tackle depth, which we know
inside is where you need a lot
1231
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:34,100
of depth and then the other one
was cold back, strictly focusing
1232
01:14:34,100 --> 01:14:36,100
on track.
I think that's a lot of sense
1233
01:14:36,100 --> 01:14:39,200
for him.
You know, you see you some of
1234
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:41,900
this times.
I think, I think cold now is
1235
01:14:41,900 --> 01:14:45,200
probably looking at.
Can I make the Olympic team?
1236
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:46,700
Maybe not?
Heck.
1237
01:14:46,700 --> 01:14:49,600
Maybe even next year, maybe in
four years from now or some of
1238
01:14:49,608 --> 01:14:52,500
those other games?
Yeah, yeah, I think that's true
1239
01:14:52,500 --> 01:14:54,500
with him.
And, you know, it clears up an
1240
01:14:54,500 --> 01:14:58,800
extra extra look there at the
running back position.
1241
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:03,800
I know he was more scout team,
looking things like that but you
1242
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:06,200
know it's definitely another
spot on the roster for a running
1243
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:07,500
back.
I know we got a stacked room
1244
01:15:07,500 --> 01:15:11,400
there already but we do have
some guys that are more
1245
01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:13,600
versatile, that Flex out a
different positions.
1246
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:16,500
So I think that room is going to
be really interesting to watch
1247
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:19,400
if we can get the season this
fall and especially even going
1248
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:25,100
into next year.
Absolutely other one Taiwan
1249
01:15:25,100 --> 01:15:32,400
Garbutt, you know he is absent
right now from the hope these
1250
01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:35,900
it's it's non covid-19.
This one just some family things
1251
01:15:35,900 --> 01:15:39,000
going on.
He's on scholarship he's in
1252
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:40,500
school.
They don't know if he'll play
1253
01:15:40,500 --> 01:15:45,800
Garbutt was going to be looked
at as that you know potential
1254
01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:50,400
starter if not first guy in Miss
sometime last year.
1255
01:15:50,700 --> 01:15:55,400
Are had some really good plays
31 tackle.
1256
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:58,100
One sack.
I don't think it kills us.
1257
01:15:58,100 --> 01:16:01,200
Some people think that without
him it's going to significantly
1258
01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:03,100
hurt.
I think we read with Belmar,
1259
01:16:03,100 --> 01:16:04,800
some of the young guys stepping
up.
1260
01:16:06,300 --> 01:16:08,800
You know, Beatles and Brian
wootten.
1261
01:16:08,900 --> 01:16:11,500
It's not going to kill us.
So it's again, it's one of those
1262
01:16:11,500 --> 01:16:13,000
things.
If it's a family matter, whether
1263
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:15,500
it be a family member, six
months things going on.
1264
01:16:15,500 --> 01:16:19,500
Hey dude, do with the NCAA just
said, take your time.
1265
01:16:20,100 --> 01:16:22,300
Come back, you still have time
to play.
1266
01:16:23,500 --> 01:16:26,200
Yeah, that me even if he decides
at some point in the season, if
1267
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:29,400
he plays less than 50% of the
Season, he's getting this.
1268
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:32,000
This this year for free.
So he may be able to help us in
1269
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:34,700
crunch time if he, you know,
feels comfortable with coming
1270
01:16:34,700 --> 01:16:37,900
back to the team at that point.
There's potential there, but
1271
01:16:37,900 --> 01:16:40,400
obviously we want him to take
all the time.
1272
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:44,000
He needs it definitely hurts
because I do think he was going
1273
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:46,900
to be the guy playing opposite
read as the first guy out there.
1274
01:16:47,900 --> 01:16:50,600
I think that that Belmar does
well and I think he's going to
1275
01:16:50,608 --> 01:16:53,300
be the guy that's going to
probably get most of the reps
1276
01:16:53,300 --> 01:16:56,600
with carpet out, but I would
have liked to seen what garbage
1277
01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:59,000
could do is that first line
there and with Belmar being the
1278
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:02,200
first guy rotating in.
But you know, we'll see what
1279
01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:05,800
happens, but wish him nothing
but the best and, you know, he
1280
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:07,200
will Be back with us when he
can.
1281
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:12,900
So we're also still
unfortunately waiting on a NCAA.
1282
01:17:12,900 --> 01:17:23,100
Waiver for Raheem Blackshear.
Just play him, put him out
1283
01:17:23,100 --> 01:17:26,300
there, see what they say like
well we don't have a right, fuck
1284
01:17:26,300 --> 01:17:29,000
you.
You you don't have any control
1285
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:33,400
anymore like you just can't play
them against UVA so they can't
1286
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:36,000
take that away from us.
If we win the cup.
1287
01:17:36,100 --> 01:17:42,400
Back that's good that to a
bitch.
1288
01:17:42,700 --> 01:17:45,400
Now we one of the field man we
won't carry the n-c-double-a
1289
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:49,100
says he was ineligible help us
do anything.
1290
01:17:49,100 --> 01:17:53,400
We're trying to get prepared for
a season but in reality with the
1291
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:57,300
black sheer thing where it's
irritating is he put in his
1292
01:17:57,300 --> 01:18:01,200
request in January and his
request was my coach, the guy
1293
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:04,000
who recruited me got fired, I
belong play there anymore.
1294
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:07,900
I don't care who the normal
coach change.
1295
01:18:07,900 --> 01:18:12,100
Usually it's done.
He did it in January, JT
1296
01:18:12,100 --> 01:18:15,500
Daniels, did it in May.
He's got approved to his little
1297
01:18:15,500 --> 01:18:18,400
brother.
Did it in May he's got approved.
1298
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:20,600
There's a couple other guys
who've got to prove to did it
1299
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:23,800
pretty quick.
Seems like that the NCAA really
1300
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:26,800
don't care about when you do it.
It's about who you are in the
1301
01:18:26,808 --> 01:18:29,800
position you play.
So you know what team you're
1302
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:32,000
transferring to and from its
range.
1303
01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:36,300
Although it's funny now His
little brother can't play this
1304
01:18:36,300 --> 01:18:40,600
year, bro.
But the big piece is just
1305
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:43,100
fucking plane.
What are they going to do?
1306
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:48,200
What can they do?
Screw them and it's getting to a
1307
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:53,600
point where you know, what they
need to do honestly is just go
1308
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:56,500
ahead and say any transfer its
automatic play.
1309
01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:59,200
We're not we're not making
decision because of this stuff.
1310
01:18:59,700 --> 01:19:03,600
Brian coach said, one other
thing that kind of caught your
1311
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:09,300
ear and then kind of caught your
ear about with guy we talked
1312
01:19:09,300 --> 01:19:14,700
with a couple weeks ago.
Yes oh spoiler alerts a all the
1313
01:19:14,700 --> 01:19:17,300
Hokies out there.
There is an open quarterback
1314
01:19:17,300 --> 01:19:22,000
competition.
Now that's what he said and I
1315
01:19:22,008 --> 01:19:26,000
think this goes back to another
problem that coach Fuente
1316
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:28,500
sometimes has is that he says
something.
1317
01:19:28,500 --> 01:19:33,500
But means something slightly
different and what I think he
1318
01:19:33,500 --> 01:19:37,100
means here is that you know he's
paying lip service to these
1319
01:19:37,100 --> 01:19:38,500
players.
He wants to motivate them.
1320
01:19:38,500 --> 01:19:40,400
He wants to get the most out of
them at practice.
1321
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:44,900
He wants them to push each
other, to be the best they can
1322
01:19:44,900 --> 01:19:46,700
be.
And I think that's his way of
1323
01:19:46,700 --> 01:19:51,300
doing it is saying, essentially,
You have to earn this position
1324
01:19:51,300 --> 01:19:54,300
every day, you're not being
given this position.
1325
01:19:54,300 --> 01:19:56,900
You have to earn it every day.
That's not saying that the
1326
01:19:56,900 --> 01:20:01,000
position is not hinden hookers.
I think it is hindon hookers,
1327
01:20:01,700 --> 01:20:05,200
but I think he wants him to
approach each day of practice,
1328
01:20:05,500 --> 01:20:07,200
like he's still learning that
spot.
1329
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:12,000
Whether you think that's a good
thing or a bad thing, that's
1330
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:13,900
your opinion.
But I think that's my
1331
01:20:13,900 --> 01:20:15,800
interpretation.
I don't think that there is an
1332
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:18,600
open quarterback competition
that he doesn't know who his
1333
01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:21,300
starters going to be.
I think he knows and wants his
1334
01:20:21,300 --> 01:20:25,000
starter to be hitting a hooker
but he's not going to start him
1335
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:28,500
unless he goes out there and
earns that every day and gives
1336
01:20:28,500 --> 01:20:33,200
him the effort and the
performance and practice that he
1337
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:36,400
needs to see that that he's
progressing forward in his game.
1338
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:40,300
So that's my thought and that
goes back to You something when
1339
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we had John McLaughlin on couple
weeks ago he was talking about
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that when it came to the when
coach Vice came in on the
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01:20:46,700 --> 01:20:49,400
offensive line his last year
there and saying essentially,
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you know, none of these
positions are set in stone.
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Heli, what part of the line you
play in isn't set in stone.
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We're going to put the best five
out there as far as who's
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practice.
Well that week who's done.
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Well, we might get to a point
where we say, okay, these five
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are the best five and as long as
they're doing the right, Things
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during the week.
Those are the starters but
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that's not settled until it is
settled.
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And I think you've got this a
similar situation here at
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quarterback where you know, he
knows who his best guy is but he
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wants to keep pushing that best
guy to get better.
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And he thinks the best way to do
that is essentially saying It's
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yours.
You know is not saying it's your
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spot to lose saying it's open
claim it.
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Yeah.
Go out and play and I don't I
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think Hinton is the starter.
I know people talk about, you
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know, apparently Braxton looked
good in practice and stuff.
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But it's like, you know what
Hindu Hendon had you on the
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verge of 8 wins?
No losses.
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On the verge and you saw his
progression and I tell you
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something, just looking at some
of the pictures and some of the
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videos and then looks like he's
got a lot more cut up and dude,
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01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:12,900
somebody set it on Twitter and
me and you kind of peaked at at
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01:22:12,900 --> 01:22:15,600
that release.
Looks a lot faster than it did
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01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:18,100
last year.
I know it's in practice but it
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just it's almost like looking at
things so much quicker man which
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with who we have it wide out and
I know some people think we're
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We're both in with thin but we
have guys if they stay healthy
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it's a dangerous core.
Yeah, so yeah.
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All right, Brian anything else,
anything dropping while we're
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sitting here talking watching
sports, seeing nothing came
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across my border.
That I feel like we need to talk
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about.
So I think we're good man.
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So let me ask this guy's Do you
think that the Pac-12 in the Big
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Ten pulled the plug way too soon
on the season?
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My opinion is absolutely.
They did way too soon because
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when we're looking at
potentially, you could push this
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thing back.
Six or seven weeks.
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01:23:04,700 --> 01:23:06,800
Yeah.
You, you screwed the pooch on
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that run any time right there
with you, man.
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I mean, if you're talking about,
you're starting a season as late
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as the first or second week in
October potentially, and you're
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making decision now knowing that
these There's going to still be
1385
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on campus but saying you're not
going to play football.
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Here's my thing.
If that's where your that's
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where your think you're heading,
push the start of the Season
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01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:34,200
back, get the kids on campus,
give it two to three weeks.
1389
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See, if there's any sort of
surge on campus and then make a
1390
01:23:39,608 --> 01:23:44,300
decision based on actual numbers
and not on whatever your gut
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01:23:44,300 --> 01:23:47,500
feeling is right now.
Everything is about risk
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01:23:47,500 --> 01:23:55,100
assessment based on like macro
details and not on the micro
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01:23:55,100 --> 01:23:57,800
details of each individual
institution in each individual
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01:23:57,800 --> 01:24:02,500
conference.
So I feel like they waited, they
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01:24:02,500 --> 01:24:05,800
didn't wait long enough to make
the decision that they made
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because it's a very it's a very
drastic decision that's going to
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impact a lot of different
aspects not only of the sport
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but of each school and their
communities.
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Absolutely absolutely.
Alright.
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Well that is going to wrap up
this episode of The Boundary
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Corner podcast, what do we in
about an hour plus?
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My name is Curtis Wilson.
I'm Brian Sigler.
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Okay.
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Welcome back to the boundary
Corner podcast.
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My name is Curtis Wilson along
with my co-host Ryan.
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Siegel what's up buddy?
How you doing buddy?
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Sipping a brouhaha, listening to
the storm role here in the West
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End watching little sports on
TV.
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What about you, man?
Living the dream over here in,
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Mechanicsville had a little
little takeout Chinese for
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dinner.
Ooh, been just, you know, one of
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them Kickback night.
So I hadn't been too stressful
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at all buddy.
I do like a little bit of the
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storm rolling in though.
Oh yeah.
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I like summer storms of the best
man, and then, it's even really
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nice being in the cave.
Watching, little baseball like
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little basketball.
The hockey playoffs have begun
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tonight.
So, yeah, I already
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did that and then the rest of
them in a five-game series when
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I like the way they did it kind
of wish the NBA had did that I
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think would have been fun to see
like the you know the bottom two
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seeds playing to other seeds and
like a Seven-game Series.
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Yeah that'd be pretty sweet.
Sir wom you could do it dialed
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up a little bit more and get get
a little bit more.
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I don't know.
High-stakes.
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I guess although what damn lower
did last night you as a Lakers
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fan, I'm sure that was not like,
okay, this is what we're going
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to have to play in the front.
God yeah, yeah I mean day we
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keep talking shit to the
Clippers.
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That's all good.
He's not afraid to talk shit to
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anybody including the Skip
Bayless, Fu.
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Tweet this morning.
I was like Jesus and I read some
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things there skip doing.
What's get does is pretty funny,
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man.
How's your weekend?
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Do oh man, it was a pretty
relaxing weekend, man.
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Pretty relaxing weekend got a
little yard work done.
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Nothing too bad.
I did was fight a little bit of
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a stomach bug a couple days ago,
but we're past that now.
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All good.
Now, what about you?
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What about you?
I know you were out of town.
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Had some had some traveling.
Oh, yeah.
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Traveling my niece.
Got married this weekend down in
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40 as well.
Max Meadows area.
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So about 40 minutes, south of
Blacksburg wedding was
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beautiful.
I had a very interesting
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Adventure Friday night.
After the rehearsal dinner, we
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get back to the hotel room.
We are about to, we're slowly.
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Getting ready to get the boys a
bath, yet ourselves showers, and
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And the little one falls off
bumps his head.
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He cries seems okay.
Given bath, they play, they
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watch a little bit of TV and
then he called dinosaurs.
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And just, you know, the head
bump.
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So we ended up calling my sister
and the future mother, and my,
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the future, my niece's future
mother-in-law.
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They're both nurses.
Like if he bumped in threw up,
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just just take him in like you
don't want.
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Anything makes sense, right?
Well, he proceeded to do that
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two more times.
And, you know, I kind of
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sacrifice and said, honey, I'll
go into the hospital.
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So essentially, we were in there
till 3:00 a.m.
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All sorts of, you know, they
just come out.
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Yeah.
They you know they give they
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actually went with the CT scan,
everything was fine by 3:00 in
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the morning.
He was just fine but that made
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the next day.
Very long in the rest of the
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weekend, extremely long because
it's kind of funny.
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Brian scheduled drops, 30 me and
you Texas.
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Hey, Bryant anniversary.
You know, we're going to get
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some.
We're going to do a little bit
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of here, too.
House.
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You're like, oh cool.
Just do it.
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Something when we get back, I
text you, Sunday, tell you the
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situation.
You're like, oh God, put it off
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till Monday.
I will talk about schedule.
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Fun me.
And you start looking at Twitter
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feeds and news reports on Monday
and it's like oh shit all hell
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is breaking loose in college
football and it's like we text
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we call like we've got to put it
on.
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All along, we cannot start
discussing schedule and look
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like buffoons season gets called
season gets called or Emmy.
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Even if you know things get
pushed back to the spring, it's
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like, well now we've talked
about something that's not
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happening for six months.
All right.
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All right.
Yeah.
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And and I'm sure boundary Corner
listeners.
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You guys.
Probably right on top of it.
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Like, we are Pac-12.
Big Ten.
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Have typically postponed
canceled their Seasons until the
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spring at first.
But I'll give you just what your
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first thought when you saw it.
Big tenants first, followed by
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the Pac-12.
What was your like, what was
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your initial just thoughts on
it, like, just What changed
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since they just the big tent
brought out their schedule?
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Since I pulled out their
schedule likes.
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They're salivating discussing
who Peck 12, after dark games.
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Yeah, whoo.
Michigan.
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Ohio State, early, some other
good games are really, just,
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yeah.
Saying like what has changed?
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And I think we're going to hit
that in a few minutes here, but
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it was just like it was kind of
out of left field.
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It's even more out of left field
that they're doing.
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This.
They're doing this.
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Okay.
Cool.
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You doing.
So you're closing your
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universities, right?
Nah, not to my knowledge.
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I've not seen a lot of big
people.
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Come back and say, oh yeah, how
the state's virtual Michigan's
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virtual Penn State's virtual?
Seems like the students are
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still coming back.
So it seems like even the ones
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that are pushing to a mostly
online or full online situation
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or still, they still want the
students on campus.
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Yep.
Because some students have to be
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on campus for it seems like
there is a push for Anyone that
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came to be on campus to be on
campus, for whatever reason, my
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guess is some sort of monetary
reason.
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But that's neither here nor
there.
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But Curtis did, you did you see
some of the statements that came
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out as far as the reasoning?
Yeah.
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Let's let's let's let's both
read.
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Let's just read both statements.
Okay, I'm gonna do the Big 10
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run.
I think you have the Pac-12
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there.
So this is the fixed end
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statement.
The mental and physical Health.
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And Welfare of our
student-athletes has been at the
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center of every decision.
We have made regarding the
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ability to proceed forward as
time progressed, and after hours
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of discussion with our Big Ten
task force of, for emerging,
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infectious diseases, and the Big
Ten Sports Medicine committee.
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It became abundantly clear that
there was too much uncertainty
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regarding potential.
Medical risk, to our student
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athlete to compete this fall for
many months.
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We have hope to return to fall
Collegiate Sports might be An
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opportunity to restore some
sense of normalcy and provide
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brighter moments.
For our University, our city,
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our state.
The first statement there was
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from Kevin Warren.
The second statement there was
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from Wisconsin's Rebecca blank
with Barry Alvarez.
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Last kind of piece of that from
the Wisconsin folks even.
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So today's decision by the big
tent, postpone the fall 2020
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Sports season is the correct one
what the Pac-12 say?
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All right, so let's start with
Larry, Scott Pac-12,
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commissioner, health safety, and
well-being of our student
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athletes and all those connected
to the Pac-12.
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Sports has been our number one
priority since the start of this
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current crisis, our
student-athletes fans staff, and
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those who love college sports
would like to have seen the
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season played this calendar year
as originally planned.
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And we know how disappointing
this is.
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Then we also have from the
president of the University of
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Oregon, all the Pac-12
presidents and chancellors,
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understand the importance of
this decision.
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And the disappointment it will
create for our student-athletes
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the coaches, support staff and
all other fans.
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Ultimately, our decision was
Guided by science and a deep
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commitment to the Health and
Welfare of student athletes.
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We certainly hope that the
Pac-12 will be able to return to
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competition in the New Year.
All right, I'm going to say
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something for both.
The, if the well-being and was
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so much concern, we had to
cancel a bleep too.
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You bring them back on campus
two and a half months ago.
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Any explanation with that bright
any reasoning?
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No.
Because if, if you knew this was
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the ultimate outcome, or if you
knew you were, potentially still
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has this option on the table
without playing any games and
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seeing what was going to happen.
Then you shouldn't have brought
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them back and you definitely
shouldn't have put out a
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schedule like this season was
about to start up in five weeks.
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It's very true, you're already.
So you're already on mitigating
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your risk by doing that, we're
going to bring them on campus,
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we're going to do this.
We're going to have them
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trained, we're going to do all
this and it's like, well, hey,
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you said you were all about
their health and well-being, the
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most healthy and well-being
would have been no.
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Until we feel you guys are
secured a play.
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We're not going to bring you on
campus, they didn't.
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Yeah.
So there's a lot of hypocrisy in
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those statements in my opinion.
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I see something else playing out
here that seem to coincide a
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little bit with a lot of these
decisions.
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All, you know, we had players
that came together in the
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Pac-12, then later players that
came together in the Big Ten
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List of Demands talking about
potentially wanting to create a
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Association of college athletes
wanting to have a A universal
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protocol for covid Across the
Nation, just dictated by the
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conferences and then all of a
sudden that's when this The
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Winds of Change started to blow
through and you know a couple of
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these conferences get cold feet
because nothing in terms of the
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data that they were analyzing
change.
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At least to my knowledge nothing
has been put out that said okay
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well the numbers were here two
weeks ago and now they're here
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now.
I mean to my knowledge nothing
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is changed that would have
dictated a hey we're announcing
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the schedule in 48 hours.
We're meeting to determine
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whether or not we were going to
play this season.
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Absolutely the players making
those statements talking about
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banning together, talking about
having Association morning, a
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seat at the table.
Asking for more that to me, they
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can say all they want about.
Oh, it's liability dude.
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Your tongue My neighbor tonight,
man.
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I mean, you talked about it,
you're bringing kids back to
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campus blob abilities, already
their liabilities, there it is.
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You, as soon as they're on your
campus, you have some degree of
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liability saliva there, so it
kind of makes no sense.
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But then this happens and it's
almost like it's almost like
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these two conferences are
thinking you know what?
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We're going to try to squash
this.
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We're just going to end your
season.
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That's cool but they probably
haven't thought about is there's
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three other pretty big players
and we'll get to those in a
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little while.
But something night as we were
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as kind of the trickle start
talking about, potentially
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cancellations happening, say
what you want.
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I know people are saying he's
not the spokesman for the
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Collegiate football players, but
he is probably the biggest name
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and that was the Trevor Lawrence
statement.
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You don't mind Brian them.
Read his tweet real quick,
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pretty long people are at just
as much if not more risk.
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If we don't play players, will
all be sent home to their own
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communities, where social
distancing is highly unlikely
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and medical care and expenses
will be placed on the families.
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If they were to contract
covid-19 not to mention the
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players coming from the
situations that are not good for
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them.
And their future are having to
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go back to that football is a
safe havens of so many people.
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We're more likely to get the
Virus in everyday life than
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playing football having a
season, also incentivizes
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players mean safe and taking all
the right precautions and try to
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avoid Contracting covid because
the season teammates safety is
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on the line.
Without the season as we've seen
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already, people will not social
distance or wear masks or take
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proper precautions and a little
while later.
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The release on Monday we want to
play And that started a big
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movement amongst a bunch of
players whether it was seniors
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or underclassmen from players
across the country, both in
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conferences that were talking
about canceling and conferences
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that you know, had made that
move yet or weren't having those
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discussions to that degree at
that time.
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So, you know, we saw you know,
for Virginia Tech trade turning
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was kind of the leader on that
front for us stepping up making
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that statement And a lot of
other guys followed suit on the
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team.
So I think a lot of the guys on
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the team want to play.
Yeah.
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And not just, I think the
biggest thing that the biggest
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takeaway from this whole thing,
especially the, we want to play
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part of it is the whole idea of
we're supportive of people that
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want to opt out but give us the
option to opt in.
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Yeah, that I think that's that's
that's kind of the biggest
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takeaway from what most people
were saying, you know, they're
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There are some some degrees of
wanting to have a little bit
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more communication and say, So
within the framework of what
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this season is going to look at
look like.
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And that was part of what Trevor
Lawrence tweeted out, that was
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part of what some of these other
guys tweeted out.
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But I think, like I said, the
underlying thing there though,
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as I think you know we need to
be supportive of guys that want
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to opt out.
We need to be supportive of guys
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that want to opt in and let's
figure out how to do this as
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safely as we can.
That is absolutely correct in
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this situation.
There is no wrong answer of what
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they want to do.
You want to opt out because
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there's you just don't feel
safe, your, you want to be able
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to be around your family.
You know, you know you have some
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underlying medical things that
in normal circumstances really
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wouldn't be a factor that's
fine.
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You want opt-in because listen,
I love this game.
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I'm a sophomore.
I need this season to create my
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draft stock.
I don't have the season to
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create my draft stock.
I'm sitting here next year.
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I'm not maybe it's one of these
guys isn't that how the boards?
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But if they go out and have a
breakout season, Caleb 40, last
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year, if he goes out and balls
last season, and now he is
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looked at as a first-round guy.
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That in the sophomore season,
he's already built the day but
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they're guys who don't have that
chance.
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And those are the guys that that
kind of needed.
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And then the way Trevor talked
about being sent home because
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the weird part is right now, you
know Clemson is not going to let
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kids on campus until the 22nd.
Or was it the 15th or 22nd
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September.
I'm assuming a lot of these guys
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can't stay there or if they're
staying.
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Yeah, you know and if they can
stay there, that's fine.
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But then there's more Cochran.
See hey, you can't play
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football.
We'll go home.
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Well, you know you know you need
to stay here because we're going
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to keep training.
What is with the big Ten's?
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Do you still going to train 20
hours a week like?
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Yeah.
And you know, let's talk about
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Blacksburg a little bit here.
I mean we're talking about
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roughly 20,000 potentially
students being on campus or in
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the Blacksburg area between
whether it's off campus housing
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student athletes incoming
freshman.
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You know, for the most part they
are going virtual classes.
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But at the same time, they still
are expected to be on campus.
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Yep.
Because there are certain
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resources that they may or may
not be able to access from a
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remote location.
And they, I think in a lot of
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ways, they, they make more money
off of students when they're on
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campus.
So that's that that's been a
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theme of unfortunately, to a -
extent that's been a theme of
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what we've been seeing.
A academic side of this.
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And the organizational side is
that Virginia Tech is in some
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cases, not been the greatest at,
I guess giving the students a
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little bit of a bit relief.
When it comes to the financial
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side of things.
It's almost like they have
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ratcheted up the financials, you
know, to twist the the screws
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into the students while giving
them a product that is less than
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what they've been accustomed.
To in the past.
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So that's a problem as well.
But you know, we're again, we're
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talking about 20,000 people in
the greater Blacksburg area.
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That weren't there a month ago.
Yep, and athletes that even if
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they play or not are expected to
stay on campus.
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Yeah, you can't tell me that the
structure that a football season
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has is not better for the
athletes than whatever, not
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having a season that's going to
be.
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And that's Been my point of view
here is that, you know, I don't
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think people understand that for
the most part even during the
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season a student athletes day is
very regimented.
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And you've got, you know,
morning lift or morning run,
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you've got class, you've got
lunch, you've got class, you've
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got film, you've got practice,
you've got another bill, you've
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got study hall, study all you
got, you got trainers.
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I mean, there's so much that
you're doing in a Typical day.
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You know, there's not a lot of
hours that you're calling your
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own where you can make even
those bad choices.
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So you know, that type of
structure is going to be good in
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these scenarios.
You know, I get the potential
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added risk of being in close
proximity with 80 other people
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during practice and, you know,
55 people on a trip.
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But at the same time, if you're
not doing that, There's a very
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good likelihood that you're
going to be in close proximity
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with people in dorm rooms in
close proximity with people in
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common areas or areas where food
is served.
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Most people with more free time
on their hand or going to end up
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doing more social activities and
it's going to create more
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interactions.
So at some point we need to take
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take stock of if they're on
campus together, they're at
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risk.
Regardless of whether football
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is being played or not absolute
and and you made.
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So Any point about the
regiment's rigid schedules.
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But also they don't see what the
big 10 PAC 12 has done is
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they've taken the carrot away
from the players.
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Yeah, they put it away instead
of saying, Hey, listen, you guys
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need to be very disciplined.
You need to wear your mask, you
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need to social distance, you
need to wash your hands.
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You need to do all these things,
so you can play.
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So you can put that tape out
there.
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They don't have it anymore.
Even the normal student body
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doesn't have that more at those
universities because you know
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what, even though the Horseshoe
the big house often Zoo, there
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are no, there's gonna be nobody
this year.
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You don't tell me those kids
want to sit in their dorm rooms
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and hang out with their
roommates and watch the game.
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Where's the incentive?
Now, to be more rigid.
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Where somebody's you see a
player walk on campus?
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Like, I will get, I need to pull
up my mask.
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And he did, I need to think
about this because I want to see
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my University.
Play the football game.
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If there's no carrots, just kind
of like, well, okay, what do we
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do?
What we should do these things.
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Yeah.
But what's the incentive?
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Well, you don't want to get it.
Well, nobody wants to get it.
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Jesus.
Lord.
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But to your point, Take all that
away, even 20 hours a week like
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the big Ten's doing, they're
going to have a lot more down
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time, they're going to be
hanging out with a lot more
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people.
I guarantee you someone to be a
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bars parties other social
events.
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I heard Barton Simmons, 24/7 guy
today say it, he says and, and I
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hope he's right.
He says, I really hope the Big
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12, the ACC in the SEC can pull
it off, and he said, here's why.
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Because then, you're going to
have a comparison.
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If the Big Ten in the Pac-12,
continue to test as did the
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eighth because clearly, if
they're playing, they're going
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to be testing to three times a
week.
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Yeah.
Who have more cases by the end
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of semester and he says, you
want to make a bet.
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He's like, I'll make a bet make
a bet it's going to be those
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schools playing, because those
kids have incentive for the
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other school, do not.
And I'm with that.
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Yeah, I'm with that 100%.
I'm gonna get some real talk to
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you go.
And you can attest to this
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because you witnessed some of
it.
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Firsthand.
Real talk, some football
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players, drink and do drugs.
No shit.
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Also, real talk when it was the
season.
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Most of those people that did
those things did not do those
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things.
And there was a unofficial rule
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by the coaching staff that after
Wednesday's practice, you don't
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touch alcohol till after the
game.
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And you will be surprised the
number of football players that
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didn't you one of them?
Exactly Curtis can attest
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thirsty.
Thursday.
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00:23:26,500 --> 00:23:31,900
I was a DD many times mr.
Siegel on Friday nights before
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games, my first year at
Longwood, you could not sleep,
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00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,400
your you were jacked, you needed
about four hours of sleep, which
393
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:42,500
means used to get back to your
dorm room about what, 3 a.m. you
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drive over and just like where
you need to go tonight, man.
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00:23:45,700 --> 00:23:48,900
And I'm just like Brother didn't
uh he didn't touch a drop of
396
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alcohol.
You just hung out you chitchat
397
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,000
it.
Now usually after the game you'd
398
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be like hit me up about 5:00.
I don't know nothing because
399
00:23:57,300 --> 00:24:02,100
I've been up for but you get, it
was set out there and run your
400
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time while you were playing.
Did you ever have anybody get
401
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,100
busted?
And basically, I'm sure the
402
00:24:06,100 --> 00:24:09,100
coaches were like, bye.
You're not playing.
403
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,000
Yeah.
We had a couple guys that that
404
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:16,200
set out at least the first half
of some games or set out the
405
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:17,000
whole game.
Mmmmm.
406
00:24:17,300 --> 00:24:22,800
We had a couple guys that got
put in the the Farmville jail
407
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,000
overnight for being drunk in
public.
408
00:24:25,700 --> 00:24:31,500
And you know the funny story was
you know the first thing we had
409
00:24:31,500 --> 00:24:34,100
one guy was a real jokes or so.
The first thing you ask we got
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00:24:34,100 --> 00:24:36,700
put in there you like I want a
Bible in a copy of the
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00:24:36,700 --> 00:24:42,700
Constitution brought to my cell
now gz.
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00:24:42,700 --> 00:24:46,500
But again you just make the
point the rules out there and
413
00:24:46,500 --> 00:24:49,500
I'm sure Rule would have been
out there of for those schools
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00:24:49,500 --> 00:24:53,900
playing after we test on
Wednesday, you need to be
415
00:24:53,900 --> 00:24:58,100
nowhere else.
You need to be your class where
416
00:24:58,100 --> 00:25:02,000
you sleep or on the facilities
but it's gone.
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00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,300
Now for them.
Now for the other conference is
418
00:25:05,300 --> 00:25:09,700
Braun.
Lot came down after the Big Ten
419
00:25:09,700 --> 00:25:12,200
statement.
Now let's start with the course
420
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:16,100
the ACC released from the
Atlantic Coast Conference of
421
00:25:16,100 --> 00:25:18,200
statement.
Aunt, the ACC will continue to
422
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,600
make decisions based on medical
advice, inclusive to our medical
423
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,700
Advisory Group local and State
Health guidelines, and do.
424
00:25:25,700 --> 00:25:28,400
So in a way that appropriately
coincides with the University's
425
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:32,000
academic missions, the safety of
our students and overall campus
426
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,000
communities will be our top
priority.
427
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,200
And we are pleased with the
protocols being administered by
428
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,200
our 15 campuses.
We will continue to follow our
429
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,700
process and has been placed for
months and it's served us.
430
00:25:42,700 --> 00:25:47,500
Well, we understand the need to
stay flexible if you To adjust
431
00:25:47,500 --> 00:25:50,500
medical information in the
landscape of balls, that was
432
00:25:50,500 --> 00:25:52,500
only from the whole committee
committee.
433
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,400
And then there was a statement
from essentially, the guy
434
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,400
leading, this group, his name is
dr.
435
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:02,300
Cameron wolf, he is a Duke
infectious disease specialist
436
00:26:02,700 --> 00:26:06,400
and basically his, you hear what
he's saying?
437
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,800
It gives you some hope he says
that we believe that we can
438
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,700
mitigate it down to the level.
That makes everyone's safe.
439
00:26:14,300 --> 00:26:16,600
Can we safely have two teams
meet on the field.
440
00:26:16,700 --> 00:26:18,800
And I will say yes.
Will it be tough?
441
00:26:19,100 --> 00:26:22,500
Yes.
Will it be expensive and hard
442
00:26:22,500 --> 00:26:26,100
and lots of work for sure, but I
do believe you can sufficiently
443
00:26:26,100 --> 00:26:29,300
mitigate the risk of bringing
covid onto the football field or
444
00:26:29,300 --> 00:26:33,400
into training rooms at a level
that is no different than an
445
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:39,200
already thing.
As a student on campus, a couple
446
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,200
other things.
You said are Bron, I know you
447
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,900
read the article but I just want
to highlight these for those who
448
00:26:43,900 --> 00:26:46,300
didn't.
You can't tell me that run went
449
00:26:46,300 --> 00:26:47,800
to a football.
Ball field is supposed to be a
450
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:51,400
zero risk environment.
Yes.
451
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,200
Look at all the other regular
sporting injuries that we accept
452
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,600
it as a certain level of risk as
part of the parcel of football.
453
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:04,600
Now the reality is we have to
accept a little bit of covid
454
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:09,300
risk to be part of that.
Did it discusses the concerns
455
00:27:09,300 --> 00:27:12,400
about myocarditis that
inflammation of the heart.
456
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:21,800
And you know, that is a concern.
but, Brian.
457
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:26,700
Does it shock you that a virus
could cause myocarditis?
458
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,200
No.
Because anything up to the
459
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,800
common cold can cause
myocarditis.
460
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:37,500
So shocking most anything that
is a virus that causes any sort
461
00:27:37,500 --> 00:27:43,400
of fever can potentially cause
myocarditis so does it does not
462
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,600
Shock me.
One bit covid could potentially,
463
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,200
cause it's because it calls it
at a higher risk.
464
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,300
Potentially, that's probably
something we're not going to for
465
00:27:50,300 --> 00:27:53,600
15 years.
Yeah, that that's just honest,
466
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,000
there's things.
We learned everyday things.
467
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:58,500
We are you shooting probably eat
that.
468
00:27:58,500 --> 00:28:01,900
It causes this crap.
Let me not me not by that meat
469
00:28:01,900 --> 00:28:03,500
anymore.
Let Me by turkey.
470
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,200
There's things we've had now
passed, like, you know,
471
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,100
sicknesses and now we're having
problems.
472
00:28:09,100 --> 00:28:11,100
And you get asked about.
Have you ever had this before?
473
00:28:11,100 --> 00:28:12,600
Well, yeah, I had it when I was
in my twenties.
474
00:28:13,100 --> 00:28:15,500
You're seeing them after
effects. 15 years later.
475
00:28:15,900 --> 00:28:18,200
That's, that's can be shocking
to anyone.
476
00:28:18,500 --> 00:28:21,100
It shouldn't be.
And should we take this to the
477
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:22,200
Seriously.
Yes.
478
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:26,000
But if you're trying to look for
every wrong term thing, then
479
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,900
you're never going to leave your
house ever again.
480
00:28:28,300 --> 00:28:32,700
Because every day there is
something that you did 10 years
481
00:28:32,700 --> 00:28:34,000
ago, that could affect you
today.
482
00:28:34,300 --> 00:28:38,300
So don't give me that.
Now this guy Cameron wolf
483
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:42,700
legitimately first of all he's
not a good old southern boy.
484
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,100
He is actually an Australian
which so anybody trying to pay
485
00:28:46,100 --> 00:28:52,100
the original southern boy, huh?
The Originals Well, he's just
486
00:28:52,100 --> 00:28:54,600
doing whatever they say to get
this season and I wouldn't say
487
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,500
that he's from Australia, he
graduated from University of
488
00:28:57,508 --> 00:29:00,800
Melbourne, back in 2000 and he's
been a fellow at the infectious
489
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:05,200
diseases at Duke.
Since 2007, as essentially that
490
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:09,700
was where he did his work and if
you look like I didn't see some
491
00:29:09,700 --> 00:29:13,300
of his Publications, he's
already done some stuff on
492
00:29:13,300 --> 00:29:15,400
covid.
He's done some other things
493
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:20,300
concerning, you know, some
cardiac stuff, the guy's smart,
494
00:29:21,300 --> 00:29:26,200
and, You know, you hear him in
the words that he's talking
495
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:30,700
about of how to play, he's
already putting it out, there it
496
00:29:30,700 --> 00:29:34,200
is going to be tough and I'm
sure what he's preaching is what
497
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,500
they're preaching inside those
facilities in the ACC, like you
498
00:29:37,500 --> 00:29:39,700
can't screw up.
This is going to be hard, this
499
00:29:39,700 --> 00:29:43,700
is going to be tough unlikely
one or two slips, it could
500
00:29:43,700 --> 00:29:50,100
embassies just know that and You
know, he's also a realist with
501
00:29:50,100 --> 00:29:54,700
some of the other stuff.
So you know, the guy that's
502
00:29:54,700 --> 00:29:57,500
leading the ACC you hear his
background.
503
00:29:57,700 --> 00:30:00,800
You see you know what he has
studied.
504
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,800
You also see think I sent it to
you today.
505
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:08,100
Brian.
The read Stephen, the drug that
506
00:30:08,100 --> 00:30:11,500
g odd.
He was one of the phase three
507
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,400
doctors on that.
They're trying to get that FDA
508
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:20,200
approved and You know, reading
the article and having a couple
509
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,700
discussions with some people in
the medical field, you know who
510
00:30:23,700 --> 00:30:26,300
you are.
I would have shouted you out,
511
00:30:26,300 --> 00:30:28,900
but I can't because I didn't ask
you.
512
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,800
It's not a, it's not a game
changer, it's not but the the
513
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,600
way you put it was it's going to
help strain on the hospital's.
514
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,200
It's a game changer.
So I'm going to cure it as snot
515
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,400
this great drug but it's going
to help a little bit and when
516
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,100
you hear God, he's doing that
type of work.
517
00:30:46,300 --> 00:30:50,000
It tells me that The guy that's
leading this, if he ever feel
518
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,800
that there is a situation where
it can't be done, he's going to
519
00:30:52,808 --> 00:30:55,100
come out and just say it because
I don't think he will put his
520
00:30:55,100 --> 00:30:58,400
career out.
Yeah, for one football season.
521
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,100
Yeah, my takeaway from reading
that it is that it had the
522
00:31:04,100 --> 00:31:08,600
potential to be helpful in the
same way that had Roxy
523
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,600
chloroquine is, but without the
side effects that come with that
524
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:17,400
in a lot of cases, we want to go
any deeper than that on this
525
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:23,100
subject because just mentioning
that word is has political
526
00:31:23,100 --> 00:31:25,700
connotations that we're not
trying to get down that that
527
00:31:25,700 --> 00:31:29,500
path right now.
But just based on the Russians
528
00:31:29,500 --> 00:31:32,500
you had in the reading.
I've done it kind of that's the
529
00:31:32,500 --> 00:31:36,600
idea is that the idea is to get
those hospital stays either
530
00:31:37,100 --> 00:31:42,900
lower or to mitigate something
that is manageable, come
531
00:31:42,900 --> 00:31:44,600
becoming something that's not
manageable.
532
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,000
So you know if that boost for
that's a good thing and
533
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,600
obviously having someone with
that level of knowledge, on the
534
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:57,300
subject, being the person that's
in the decision, chair for this,
535
00:31:57,300 --> 00:32:01,500
for the ACC is pretty big.
The brown week we heard.
536
00:32:01,500 --> 00:32:05,900
What do you know of a top guy at
the S at the ACC has said, the
537
00:32:05,900 --> 00:32:08,800
guy who's leading it?
What is the SEC said about this?
538
00:32:09,300 --> 00:32:13,900
So there commissioner came out
Greg Sankey I look forward to
539
00:32:13,900 --> 00:32:17,400
learning more about the factors
that led the Big Ten and Pac-12
540
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,000
leadership to take these
actions.
541
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:23,400
Today, I remain comfortable with
the thorough and deliberate
542
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,800
approach that the SEC and are 14
members are taking to support a
543
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,900
healthy environment for our
student-athletes.
544
00:32:29,500 --> 00:32:32,000
We will continue to further
refine our policies and
545
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,000
protocols for a safe, return to
sports.
546
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,800
As we monitor developments and
covid-19 in a continued effort
547
00:32:37,808 --> 00:32:41,000
to support, educate and care for
our student-athletes every day.
548
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:45,300
They have not released their
schedule yet, but they have
549
00:32:45,300 --> 00:32:49,700
never really moved off of the
fact that they were going to be
550
00:32:49,700 --> 00:32:55,600
playing have a given us the
dates yet which sucks damn just
551
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,200
release it.
We need to know when these games
552
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,500
are ya there?
They've been some discussions
553
00:33:00,500 --> 00:33:03,100
because I'm looking now at the
Big 12 schedule.
554
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,900
There's already been a couple
discussions like couple of like
555
00:33:06,900 --> 00:33:13,600
the week we play UNC.
It's like us UNC FSU Carolina or
556
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:19,100
do FSU Notre Dame.
Mm, couple of the Big 12.
557
00:33:19,100 --> 00:33:21,400
It's like a couple really big
games that we can see there's
558
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,600
any SEC games of note that week,
it's going to be a packed
559
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,800
weekend.
It's gonna be like get you get
560
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,200
you get your bottle ready.
And because to a bathroom
561
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,300
because you're not going to
leave the TV for probably close
562
00:33:34,300 --> 00:33:36,900
to 12 hours.
Get yourself three TVs in one
563
00:33:36,900 --> 00:33:38,800
room.
You got to have a command center
564
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,300
got to.
All right, so he said that
565
00:33:43,300 --> 00:33:50,400
clearly, they're pushing forward
but the big big Domino that
566
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:54,300
people thought might fall after.
The first two was the big 12.
567
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,600
B12 came out today because of
presidents are going to allow
568
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:02,300
the conference to move forward
toward a season, and a revised.
569
00:34:02,300 --> 00:34:05,800
Big 12 schedule is going to be
released after approval from the
570
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,800
ades.
After tonight's meetings,
571
00:34:08,300 --> 00:34:13,699
schedules released, they are
going to start the 26th of Big
572
00:34:13,699 --> 00:34:15,900
12 Play.
I think they have games leading
573
00:34:15,900 --> 00:34:18,000
up to that in the few prior
weeks.
574
00:34:18,199 --> 00:34:20,900
Yep.
You know what they're doing 9
575
00:34:20,900 --> 00:34:23,699
plus 1, right?
They're doing on plus 1, they
576
00:34:23,699 --> 00:34:26,400
play everybody anyway.
But they're doing the additional
577
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:30,100
game but they're doing that
before the they're not unlike
578
00:34:30,100 --> 00:34:33,800
the ACC or the acc's essentially
letting the plus ones be
579
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,000
wherever.
Yep.
580
00:34:35,300 --> 00:34:38,400
Big 12 is like it's either going
to be the weekend of the 19th or
581
00:34:38,408 --> 00:34:40,000
the 12th.
You're getting a warm up.
582
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,699
This is when you're playing tell
you one thing they didn't do.
583
00:34:44,199 --> 00:34:47,100
Well if you didn't fuck a team
like they did the ACC and have a
584
00:34:47,100 --> 00:34:48,900
bye week as the last week of the
season.
585
00:34:49,500 --> 00:34:52,600
That's true.
Is there normal, though?
586
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,800
They play everybody play.
That's 19.
587
00:34:55,000 --> 00:35:01,000
Teams first weekend, I mean, I
see debris.
588
00:35:01,500 --> 00:35:08,200
Very interesting games with
Iowa, State TCU, Oklahoma,
589
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:15,400
Kansas State and Okie State
versus West Virginia, you know?
590
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,400
That's that.
Kansas State beat Oklahoma last
591
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,000
year about what fourth week,
fifth week of the Season.
592
00:35:21,300 --> 00:35:23,300
Yeah.
Like, there's freaking Oklahoma
593
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:28,300
me, and you text on that, We're
like they cannot stop the run,
594
00:35:30,100 --> 00:35:37,100
do something, do something you
have lime and loved it because
595
00:35:37,100 --> 00:35:38,900
it's just like they are just a
man.
596
00:35:38,900 --> 00:35:43,200
I elating them in the trenches
but then you're like, like, this
597
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,400
is terrible.
Like, you could do like load the
598
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,300
box, fill the gaps, make them
throw the ball like man.
599
00:35:48,300 --> 00:35:52,100
Nothing.
So after that, Domino kind of
600
00:35:52,100 --> 00:35:54,100
I'm not going to say fall but
after that, Domino kind of
601
00:35:54,100 --> 00:35:57,500
stands.
We've now got three teams that
602
00:35:57,500 --> 00:35:59,700
are essentially are moving
forward.
603
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:04,300
The power 3, the power 3, you
know.
604
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:08,700
So we see that.
But you know for those for the
605
00:36:08,700 --> 00:36:13,200
Pac-12 in the Big Ten you know
they're saying we're looking at
606
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:18,300
a spring season.
Hey Brian you played football up
607
00:36:18,300 --> 00:36:20,400
until you were in your, you
know, early 20s.
608
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:25,100
Is there any possible way
minimum could have t minimum We
609
00:36:25,100 --> 00:36:32,100
played 19/20 games in the course
of eight months.
610
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:37,600
No, okay.
Shall I?
611
00:36:37,607 --> 00:36:41,500
Elaborate you can, elaborate, if
you want, go for it, go for it.
612
00:36:41,500 --> 00:36:48,300
Just just so people understand.
Okay, so number one, if you play
613
00:36:48,300 --> 00:36:51,700
in the spring, your best players
will not be playing, because
614
00:36:51,700 --> 00:36:58,500
they will be preparing for the
draft. so, Ohio state will have
615
00:36:59,100 --> 00:37:05,000
Justin Fields by soon.
The big left tackle out of
616
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:06,600
Oregon.
Absolutely.
617
00:37:06,700 --> 00:37:09,900
He's going to be an absolute
freak in the NFL by Bateman.
618
00:37:09,900 --> 00:37:12,700
Who's already opted out in
Minnesota, one of the top
619
00:37:12,700 --> 00:37:16,900
receivers, goodbye, Michael
Parsons all World linebacker
620
00:37:16,900 --> 00:37:21,100
Penn State goodbye.
You know, I scroll down a little
621
00:37:21,100 --> 00:37:25,800
more here, you know, the Walker
little offensive, lineman out of
622
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,400
Stanford.
No, they're not going to.
623
00:37:27,500 --> 00:37:31,800
Play know.
So Don't get me wrong.
624
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,700
Do you go from your your best
players playing in the fall
625
00:37:35,700 --> 00:37:39,800
potentially opted out to 100%?
They're all opting out.
626
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,900
They will not, they will not
play.
627
00:37:43,300 --> 00:37:45,700
That's not even counting the
people.
628
00:37:45,700 --> 00:37:50,400
If we still haven't had this
discussion what if we're not
629
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,600
completely out of covid, there's
probably going to be some kids
630
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:59,100
that say, not, I'm opting out,
I'm not going to play, there's
631
00:37:59,100 --> 00:38:00,700
still going to be underclassmen
opt out.
632
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:06,200
You also talk about.
So I liked it, I liked the term
633
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,300
this.
There's a cycle of an NFL season
634
00:38:09,300 --> 00:38:12,300
and then the cycle of an NFL
offseason, there's a cycle of a
635
00:38:12,300 --> 00:38:15,000
Collegiate season in the cycle
of the Collegiate offseason.
636
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,700
And what you're essentially
saying is that you don't get a
637
00:38:19,700 --> 00:38:23,300
offseason, I mean, you're
talking about playing games from
638
00:38:23,300 --> 00:38:28,800
January to early April and then,
having two months before you're
639
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:34,000
gearing up for fall All Camp.
Well, let's just talk about this
640
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,000
Mo.
Let's just go through the normal
641
00:38:37,500 --> 00:38:40,200
beginning of a year.
Most teams their last game is in
642
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,600
January, whether it be early or
a couple weeks in if you want.
643
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,800
Play in the national
championship, how much it, how
644
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,700
much you're usually given how
much of a break you probably get
645
00:38:48,700 --> 00:38:51,600
two to three weeks after the
season ends?
646
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:56,100
No, yeah, nothing.
You might do your, you might be
647
00:38:56,100 --> 00:38:59,300
doing stuff on your own, but
there's no organized activities.
648
00:38:59,700 --> 00:39:02,500
I mean, you're expected to Not
gained 30 pounds.
649
00:39:02,500 --> 00:39:08,200
But at the same time, you're not
expected to be in game shape
650
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,900
either.
So you've got three weeks where
651
00:39:10,900 --> 00:39:15,100
you're pretty much, you're just
working out to not become a fat
652
00:39:15,100 --> 00:39:20,200
ass, but there's nothing
organized about it.
653
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,300
There's no, there's no team
activities.
654
00:39:22,300 --> 00:39:24,900
It's, it's essentially don't
gained a ton of weight over the
655
00:39:24,900 --> 00:39:30,100
holidays, but then, even after
that you you kind of mentioned
656
00:39:30,100 --> 00:39:31,600
to me when we were We were
talking about this.
657
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,500
It's A build-up, you're not
going out there after the third
658
00:39:34,500 --> 00:39:37,100
second, third or fourth week,
you're not going full bore.
659
00:39:37,300 --> 00:39:41,400
No, it's a gradual in the month
of February, kind of a gradual
660
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:45,600
lead up for two or three weeks
and then the last few weeks
661
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:49,300
you're going hard, but then
after that, after that, we see
662
00:39:49,300 --> 00:39:53,000
we see Hogarth photos every year
as Virginia Tech fans but then
663
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,600
what happens in early March dial
it back a little bit.
664
00:39:57,300 --> 00:39:58,800
You get ready for spring
practice.
665
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:03,100
You take about a week off, that
you're not doing those as much
666
00:40:03,100 --> 00:40:07,100
of those official activities and
then you're rolling into, you
667
00:40:07,107 --> 00:40:12,500
know, spring practice Spring
ball where things become more
668
00:40:12,500 --> 00:40:14,900
regimented.
Again, you're looking at, you
669
00:40:14,900 --> 00:40:17,200
know, lift you're looking at
film sessions and you have
670
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,400
actual practices in that period
of time.
671
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:24,900
But again, these are practices
where you're going hard but it's
672
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:29,400
Still not a prepping for the
week situation and it's
673
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:34,800
definitely not a fall Camp.
We're going to run you ragged to
674
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,700
the point where, you know, we're
trying to get you in shape for
675
00:40:37,700 --> 00:40:41,500
the next 10 to 12 weeks of a
season type situation.
676
00:40:41,500 --> 00:40:45,300
So, Spring ball is still a
little different in that aspect
677
00:40:45,300 --> 00:40:48,800
because it is more about the
prepping, the learning, the
678
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:53,400
getting your body, right?
And seeing kind of what you can
679
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:59,800
and what you can't do versus Has
those hardcore battles that you
680
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:03,300
sometimes see in Fall Camp?
Leading up to the start of the
681
00:41:03,300 --> 00:41:05,400
Season?
Absolutely, but then even after
682
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,500
that you're talking about
usually it's met in the early
683
00:41:08,500 --> 00:41:10,700
parts of June where they're
getting their get to ballot back
684
00:41:10,700 --> 00:41:14,100
to not.
It's very little organized, then
685
00:41:14,100 --> 00:41:16,700
they get into June.
Most kids are getting back on
686
00:41:16,700 --> 00:41:18,200
campus.
Now some have vacations and
687
00:41:18,207 --> 00:41:20,900
stuff but that's when you're
seeing will organize stuff
688
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:26,100
leading into August.
Yeah, I mean, You mentioned that
689
00:41:26,100 --> 00:41:30,200
there's just no way.
The guys bodies their 1822
690
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,100
year-olds.
That's a couple other guys.
691
00:41:32,900 --> 00:41:36,800
You know, when people talk about
the NFL, you mentioned to me the
692
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,400
way you mention, say how you
said it earlier because when you
693
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:45,300
set it at made like this logical
graduated effect, if it back
694
00:41:45,300 --> 00:41:51,100
just like in terms of like a
State athlete coming through the
695
00:41:51,100 --> 00:41:53,400
year.
So a middle school most six or
696
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,700
seven games in a typical Season
plus, whatever sort of
697
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,200
championship game potentially
that they have on the on the
698
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:01,800
field.
So somewhere between six and
699
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,300
eight games you played JV you're
talking about an eight game
700
00:42:04,300 --> 00:42:07,000
schedule with the potential
championship game.
701
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,700
When they're then Varsity, you
got 10 plus, whatever the state
702
00:42:09,700 --> 00:42:15,000
playoffs are depending on how
far you go, you get to College,
703
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,700
it's a 12-game season for most
people, plus, whatever bowl
704
00:42:18,700 --> 00:42:24,100
games, or games you have there.
So there's a, there's a
705
00:42:24,100 --> 00:42:28,500
graduated of Act of, as you get
older you're adding game.
706
00:42:28,500 --> 00:42:31,100
So your body is getting more
used to it gradually.
707
00:42:31,500 --> 00:42:34,600
Now, what you're essentially
saying here is that instead of
708
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:38,600
like in the NFL, where you have
a group of rookies that are
709
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,100
getting used to a 16-game
schedule, plus whatever the
710
00:42:41,100 --> 00:42:46,000
playoffs is, you're talking
about your entire roster is
711
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:51,700
adjusting to that because you're
playing 20 games in what nine
712
00:42:51,700 --> 00:42:54,200
calendar months, ten calendar
months, whatever it is.
713
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:58,800
I mean, and you're only getting
about two to three months in the
714
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,100
middle there.
And we had some point, your body
715
00:43:02,100 --> 00:43:05,000
needs to recover and it needs to
recover and that it needs to
716
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:10,100
build a foundation towards that
next season and you're not
717
00:43:10,100 --> 00:43:11,700
getting that by playing in the
spring.
718
00:43:11,700 --> 00:43:15,500
So I think there's inherent
medical problems that could come
719
00:43:15,500 --> 00:43:20,300
from that, whether it be not
having enough time for a serious
720
00:43:20,300 --> 00:43:21,500
injury.
I mean, you're essentially
721
00:43:21,500 --> 00:43:24,600
saying, if you get a serious
injury in the spring, you're not
722
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,100
playing in the fall.
No.
723
00:43:26,100 --> 00:43:29,600
Not like, I mean, we're not
talking about just like things
724
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,200
like Achilles.
These are ACLS or things like
725
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:36,100
that, we're talking about
anything that requires more than
726
00:43:36,100 --> 00:43:40,400
a tweak timeframe, you're
potentially jeopardizing part of
727
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,500
your next season in the recovery
process.
728
00:43:44,100 --> 00:43:47,200
I mean, absolutely.
So, you know, we've already kind
729
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:51,800
of hit on money, you know, some
people are saying, you know, how
730
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:56,000
is this going to affect?
You know, we've already it's
731
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,600
going to affect communities
doing say it's not even a
732
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,900
question, you're going to see
for those in those communities
733
00:44:02,900 --> 00:44:05,300
up there.
Potentially, you could go back
734
00:44:05,300 --> 00:44:09,700
in two years and the bars that
you like to go to is gone, you
735
00:44:09,700 --> 00:44:11,900
know, the little mom-and-pop
shop, you always stopped at
736
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,200
before you tailgate.
It is gone.
737
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,000
That's the dire consequences of
the money part.
738
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:23,100
Now as far as the school's go
I've told you my opinion run
739
00:44:23,100 --> 00:44:26,500
numerous times just on off
conversations if you were to
740
00:44:26,500 --> 00:44:29,700
tell me right now, the ACC were
to cancel football this year.
741
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,900
Here's exactly what I think, the
athletic department, Virginia
742
00:44:32,900 --> 00:44:36,200
Tech looks like I'm non-revenue
sports or cut.
743
00:44:36,700 --> 00:44:39,400
There will be five sports left
five.
744
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,600
Which got six?
Excuse me, I missed one there.
745
00:44:45,300 --> 00:44:49,000
Clearly football.
Men's basketball women's
746
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:53,700
basketball.
Baseball softball in wrestling.
747
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,300
That would be it.
That would be the only ones left
748
00:44:57,900 --> 00:45:01,100
a softball baseball.
You do get enough of a crowd to
749
00:45:01,100 --> 00:45:05,100
probably cover the expenses of a
season on the wrestling
750
00:45:05,100 --> 00:45:06,900
programs.
Have a very good line of
751
00:45:06,900 --> 00:45:11,400
boosters that you see donate.
It's also the top two, top tier
752
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,400
program, you're not going to get
rid of that.
753
00:45:13,700 --> 00:45:16,000
And then clearly the basketball
programs, you always have the
754
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,100
option with March Madness to
Bringing extra money to pay for
755
00:45:19,100 --> 00:45:21,700
the program.
That's a lot of sports cut.
756
00:45:21,700 --> 00:45:24,900
And I think you would see that
at most every school that there
757
00:45:24,900 --> 00:45:29,300
would be a bare-bones minimum
and I think you would still see
758
00:45:29,300 --> 00:45:32,700
have to see austerity measures
put in place on a lot of the
759
00:45:32,700 --> 00:45:37,500
programs, even to maintain that,
whether it be coaches, coaches,
760
00:45:37,500 --> 00:45:40,900
taking a percent cut for a
season, you know, whatever.
761
00:45:40,900 --> 00:45:42,800
It may be.
I think you would still have to
762
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:47,600
see that even if you have to
operate without the non revs.
763
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,200
So I mean, I think you're right
on track.
764
00:45:50,300 --> 00:45:52,000
Back there.
I mean, I think that's going to
765
00:45:52,008 --> 00:45:55,000
be option.
Number one is to get the, the
766
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,200
non revs cut and it's
unfortunate.
767
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:03,100
But at some point, The money's
got to come from somewhere.
768
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:07,800
Yeah.
And you're not going to cut
769
00:46:08,700 --> 00:46:12,600
sports, that have the potential
to bring in revenue for the
770
00:46:12,607 --> 00:46:16,900
school.
So at some point if there's
771
00:46:16,900 --> 00:46:20,400
operating costs without anything
coming back in, it doesn't make
772
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:25,400
sense to tell someone else you
have to take a 40% pay cut
773
00:46:25,900 --> 00:46:28,000
because we've got a fund this
thing over here.
774
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,000
I mean, at some point that
that's the decision.
775
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:34,400
Going to have to be made, you
know, we talked about, you know,
776
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,600
the schools and the money.
I mean, let's talk a little bit
777
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:43,700
about how some of the player
agency is worked in this, in
778
00:46:43,700 --> 00:46:47,000
this whole thing.
Both from, you know, we talked
779
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:50,500
about earlier with the opting
out and then wanting to opt in
780
00:46:50,500 --> 00:46:53,600
and things like that.
But also, you know, we had a
781
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:57,700
little bit of an update here
about NCAA eligibility that came
782
00:46:57,700 --> 00:47:01,100
out just before we started
recording here, you know?
783
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:06,000
Looking at a potential of guys
that play less than 50% of the
784
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,900
Season, whether it be because
they opted out after they
785
00:47:08,900 --> 00:47:11,300
started or whether it be because
the season was shut down,
786
00:47:11,300 --> 00:47:15,700
getting essentially an extra
year of Eligibility on top of
787
00:47:15,700 --> 00:47:18,900
the five years that they're
initially granted by the NCAA.
788
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,700
Well.
So how does that work?
789
00:47:21,700 --> 00:47:26,100
Perfectly in the screen?
It's not stated in this.
790
00:47:26,100 --> 00:47:31,400
It's not stated in this in this
state and it looks like like
791
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:32,800
that.
I don't think that's official
792
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,600
yet, but that's what the board
for division.
793
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:39,300
One Intercollegiate Athletics
for the NCAA has presented.
794
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:47,600
Now while we're on the topic of
NCAA holy shit what a rudderless
795
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,600
clusterfuck they have been in
this whole thing.
796
00:47:50,900 --> 00:47:54,900
Now what I didn't expect, here's
what I didn't expect, I never
797
00:47:54,900 --> 00:47:58,300
expected them to come out and
say here's the plan.
798
00:47:58,300 --> 00:48:00,000
All conferences have to follow
this.
799
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:04,000
I never expected that.
Because let's face it, the NCM
800
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,800
double-a does not have that type
of leadership ever.
801
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,900
They never they never been that
type of leadership, but what I
802
00:48:09,900 --> 00:48:15,900
did expect is, hey, here's maybe
some some minimum type
803
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:21,000
parameters and protocols that we
want you to issue or, you know,
804
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,000
here's our opinion on the
subject.
805
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,100
You do that with what you will.
Yeah.
806
00:48:25,100 --> 00:48:29,000
But they're essentially playing
the zero liability game here and
807
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:33,100
saying if we don't say anything.
Thing about what conferences
808
00:48:33,100 --> 00:48:35,400
decide to do.
We have zero liability and what
809
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,500
happens should things go?
South the only thing the
810
00:48:38,500 --> 00:48:42,300
assholes have said is you can't
make kids sign a waiver of
811
00:48:42,300 --> 00:48:46,600
liability.
Okay, let's all is the only
812
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:50,200
thing they've said, which is
kind of like, you know, you're
813
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,700
putting the conferences and even
a tougher spot because now
814
00:48:53,700 --> 00:48:55,600
because the comment you do
schools can lay out.
815
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:59,100
Listen, you sign this cancels.
It's your decision to play.
816
00:48:59,900 --> 00:49:01,000
If you don't want to play, you
can sign.
817
00:49:01,300 --> 00:49:03,800
An opt out or you can opt out
and that's fine.
818
00:49:03,900 --> 00:49:06,000
You know, it's funny.
There's a I mean I had to sign a
819
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,600
medical waiver when when I
played football.
820
00:49:10,700 --> 00:49:13,500
So it's interesting that that's
not something they could apply
821
00:49:13,500 --> 00:49:15,900
here.
But yeah, I mean I understand
822
00:49:15,900 --> 00:49:19,300
that there are certain things
that essentially as long as
823
00:49:19,300 --> 00:49:24,900
there was no gross negligence by
a university or anything that
824
00:49:24,900 --> 00:49:28,800
happened on the field.
Then that's that's what it is.
825
00:49:29,500 --> 00:49:34,000
Well I mean, you know, We see
all this in and, you know,
826
00:49:34,300 --> 00:49:36,900
they're they've done nothing.
So let's just throw them out
827
00:49:36,900 --> 00:49:39,800
because they're worthless
basically, but I'm going to ask
828
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:41,800
you this.
The conference is make the
829
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,500
money.
NCAA does not make the money.
830
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,800
Yeah, seeing them even more
without structure without power.
831
00:49:49,500 --> 00:49:54,600
And I talked to my neighbor
tonight, he's a UVA and of e.t.
832
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:58,400
grad.
And it is, is this when the
833
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:02,300
power 5 break off, and just say
you guys are morons, you have no
834
00:50:02,300 --> 00:50:05,000
structure, we're going to create
our own.
835
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,200
We're going to essentially,
we're gonna have a commissioner.
836
00:50:08,300 --> 00:50:09,800
They're going to give us
guidelines, they're going to
837
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,600
give us protocols.
They're going to give us
838
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,800
everything we need to do.
Could this happen?
839
00:50:15,100 --> 00:50:16,500
Could we thank you?
I think it got.
840
00:50:16,500 --> 00:50:21,300
Think you're going to see
potentially up to three things
841
00:50:21,300 --> 00:50:23,300
coming out of this whole
debacle.
842
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,600
You're potentially going to see.
Organization in some way, shape
843
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:31,600
or form.
Even if it's not a union quote
844
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:36,000
marks there there, I think there
will be some some type of player
845
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,900
input more than what is in
place.
846
00:50:38,900 --> 00:50:43,600
Now, for the both at the
conference level and at the NCAA
847
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:49,300
level, I think there's the
potential to expand and maybe
848
00:50:49,300 --> 00:50:54,000
even refined further some of the
ideas of name image and likeness
849
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,800
and potentially Direct That's
two players.
850
00:50:58,700 --> 00:51:02,400
You know, at this point the
conference's are assuming some
851
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,200
risk.
The players are assuming more
852
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:07,200
risk than that, the ncaa's
assuming nothing.
853
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,300
Exactly.
So at this point, if we're
854
00:51:10,300 --> 00:51:13,200
talking about these as separate
institutions, I think you could
855
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,400
see the players having a little
bit more leverage here.
856
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:20,200
Like, they've essentially been
asserting leading up to this.
857
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:23,200
So, that would be in play.
And then, lastly, as you've
858
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,800
already mentioned, conference
Lee real.
859
00:51:25,900 --> 00:51:29,100
I meant breaking off of the
power 5 is away from the NCAA
860
00:51:29,100 --> 00:51:35,200
altogether potentially reforming
you know super conferences
861
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:39,200
depending on how that alignment
shakes out that that's that's
862
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,400
another conversation.
But yeah I definitely think
863
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,700
there's going to be some degree
of Fallout from this.
864
00:51:45,100 --> 00:51:48,200
In another question is the Big
Ten even going to exist?
865
00:51:49,700 --> 00:51:52,000
You see in Nebraska and things
like that.
866
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,700
And I'm not sure how that's
going to look coach day is seen.
867
00:51:55,900 --> 00:52:00,700
I'm to fall in line as has Penn
State but I don't know if the
868
00:52:00,700 --> 00:52:04,000
guys at Michigan and some of the
other schools are going to you
869
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,800
know, fall right in line.
So that's going to be
870
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:10,400
interesting to see.
Not only I don't think it's
871
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,500
going to be a quick death but I
think you're going to start
872
00:52:13,500 --> 00:52:19,900
seeing if there's not some sort
of leadership adjustment made
873
00:52:19,900 --> 00:52:24,500
for this conference, there's
going to be T schools that get
874
00:52:24,500 --> 00:52:29,500
wet feet about their Ation.
Yeah, my opinion is it could be
875
00:52:29,500 --> 00:52:34,500
dead quick because they're about
to lose 150 million dollars in
876
00:52:34,500 --> 00:52:37,400
revenue.
And I'm going to and people say,
877
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:41,100
well, what about basketball?
Um, they pretty much already
878
00:52:41,100 --> 00:52:42,900
laid it out.
It's not safe to play sports.
879
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:50,000
Unless there's a vaccine unless
there is a significant change in
880
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:53,300
what's going on with covid in
the next, you know what?
881
00:52:53,300 --> 00:52:54,600
Four months.
Yeah.
882
00:52:54,700 --> 00:52:57,600
How many basketball they've
already.
883
00:52:57,700 --> 00:53:00,300
They've already put themselves
behind the eight ball on that.
884
00:53:00,900 --> 00:53:05,800
So 250 million dollars out
revenues just to shit.
885
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:07,900
You see the leadership?
They're coming out and they're
886
00:53:07,900 --> 00:53:11,200
we got to cut.
It's also a perception of the
887
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,100
players.
Tell me.
888
00:53:13,300 --> 00:53:16,500
Right now, if you're a player
and it's going to be in their
889
00:53:16,500 --> 00:53:18,700
head, you know, we started
talking about organizing and
890
00:53:18,700 --> 00:53:21,700
want to seat at the table.
These sons of bitches just ended
891
00:53:21,700 --> 00:53:25,800
it like done, we're not playing
this year, the other three
892
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:27,500
companies are trying to push
forward.
893
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,300
They haven't mentioned anything
about a player organization, but
894
00:53:30,300 --> 00:53:34,000
they're trying to put forward.
It clearly did not scare them to
895
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:37,500
a point of any shut it down.
We're going to say medical
896
00:53:37,500 --> 00:53:41,000
reasons, you know, we see the
cause and effect.
897
00:53:41,100 --> 00:53:43,900
Well, the joke was that, you
know, SEC has been Dropping bags
898
00:53:43,900 --> 00:53:45,300
already.
They're not afraid of a little
899
00:53:45,300 --> 00:53:50,400
bit organization.
Know, we could we could but we
900
00:53:50,400 --> 00:54:05,500
don't
and we've got one just down the
901
00:54:05,500 --> 00:54:12,200
street on Henderson.
Hey dude, that's where you're
902
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:15,200
going, right?
They've already canceled
903
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:22,200
football this year done, there's
no way to play currently with
904
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:26,100
them.
So if you go down spring are you
905
00:54:26,100 --> 00:54:28,600
can play Spring ball?
Well, I'll find role early.
906
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,300
Yeah.
But what if that takes a year of
907
00:54:30,308 --> 00:54:32,200
Eligibility out?
Are you gonna play?
908
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:36,000
I don't know.
It's going to be an again.
909
00:54:36,300 --> 00:54:39,900
If you start here in the SEC,
the ACC in the Big 12 talk about
910
00:54:39,900 --> 00:54:42,100
hey we're bringing our players
to our meetings, they're going
911
00:54:42,100 --> 00:54:44,400
to start hearing things, they're
going to start on getting Shal.
912
00:54:44,900 --> 00:54:47,800
Hey, are we doing this?
Then they're going to have to
913
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:52,500
answer that question and if they
say well no, this is your
914
00:54:52,500 --> 00:54:54,300
student athlete.
Oh cool.
915
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,600
Let me, let me back out of my
commitment then because you're
916
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:03,000
seeing me just as this, the
other conferences are looking at
917
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:06,500
me in something else.
They've already had, they've
918
00:55:06,500 --> 00:55:09,500
already lost one.
I want to see the transfer
919
00:55:09,500 --> 00:55:16,500
Portal 2 because, you know,
maybe not for this year.
920
00:55:16,500 --> 00:55:23,000
But again, for next year, Can I
say the Run what you got?
921
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:28,000
Delusion, 50 million dollars.
How do you run a business
922
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:33,500
without Revenue?
You can not So we've already
923
00:55:33,500 --> 00:55:35,600
talked about, they're going to
cut in on red sports.
924
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:40,500
You can ask coach has to pay
cuts, then they're probably
925
00:55:40,500 --> 00:55:44,200
going to start letting go of
trainers and Facilities people
926
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:49,000
because we've got to make budget
athletic Department's cannot run
927
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:50,900
in debt.
They have to be level.
928
00:55:51,500 --> 00:55:54,500
Yep, that's why you here so long
when they're building these
929
00:55:54,500 --> 00:55:55,900
buildings are paying for it out,
right?
930
00:55:55,900 --> 00:55:57,400
Well, how?
Well, they've been slowly saving
931
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:02,800
the money to build these things.
Big donors, come in. it's
932
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:10,000
eventually, it could get to a
level where I have committed to
933
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:14,700
the University of Give me one.
That's not one of the big names
934
00:56:14,700 --> 00:56:18,600
run.
In the Big Jim.
935
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:22,200
Sure.
Let's go with lemon soda.
936
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:26,400
I'm coming to Minnesota.
Awesome, going to be, great to
937
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,800
have you here.
We need to put half your tuition
938
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:33,700
for the first three years.
What do you mean?
939
00:56:34,700 --> 00:56:38,500
We're cutting everything.
We lost 60 million dollars in a
940
00:56:38,500 --> 00:56:41,600
year.
We don't have the operational
941
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,000
budget.
We've cut the non revs, we've
942
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:48,100
cut our staff, salaries, we've
cut this, we've cut that, you
943
00:56:48,107 --> 00:56:52,100
know, there's only one way and
that's going to be you have to
944
00:56:52,100 --> 00:56:54,000
pay for part of your
scholarship.
945
00:56:54,300 --> 00:56:59,500
This happens in a lot of non rev
Sports where players get 20 30 %
946
00:56:59,500 --> 00:57:01,500
of their scholarship?
The rest they pay on their own.
947
00:57:02,900 --> 00:57:06,700
Now, any big one because you
committed to get somebody for a
948
00:57:06,707 --> 00:57:11,600
committed and you know they
can't pay full scholarship.
949
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,100
You did me nice to make your
mom.
950
00:57:13,100 --> 00:57:15,500
Write that check.
Come here.
951
00:57:15,500 --> 00:57:18,600
You don't have to It's going to
get ugly.
952
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:20,900
It could get ugly, man.
You're right.
953
00:57:20,900 --> 00:57:24,100
You could definitely get ugly.
And like I said the I feel like
954
00:57:24,500 --> 00:57:28,700
the Big Ten is going to have
more trouble than than the
955
00:57:28,700 --> 00:57:34,400
Pac-12 on that front.
Just because they do have The
956
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:40,500
big dogs that could negotiate
themselves into other
957
00:57:40,500 --> 00:57:43,200
conferences in the short term.
Yep.
958
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:48,800
I don't think the Pac-12 has
teams with the motivation to do
959
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:53,000
so.
And I think just the nature
960
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,700
geographically, I don't think
you'll see as much of a mass
961
00:57:55,700 --> 00:57:59,600
Exodus in the transfer portal
just because there's not as many
962
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:03,500
overlapping boundaries of the
conferences with the Pac-12.
963
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:06,700
Versus the rest of the country.
It's very much a isolated
964
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:10,600
conference geographically.
Whereas a lot of the other
965
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:14,000
conferences in the power 5,
especially there's there's
966
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:17,100
overlap between states, there's
overlap between regions and
967
00:58:17,100 --> 00:58:20,000
things like that.
So, you know, a guy that was
968
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:23,900
playing at Penn State
transferring to Syracuse, or
969
00:58:23,900 --> 00:58:27,300
Virginia Tech or wherever it may
be.
970
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:30,600
That's not much of a stretch not
at all and you.
971
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:33,900
Absolutely right man.
By that let's-let's-let's Move
972
00:58:33,900 --> 00:58:37,900
on Braun.
I kind of feel like the caliph
973
00:58:37,900 --> 00:58:45,100
Lori Fallout.
He was almost the The wheel.
974
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:50,700
The the small snowball that
started this when he decided to
975
00:58:50,700 --> 00:58:55,800
opt out a lot of Fallout.
I'll let you go to it.
976
00:58:55,900 --> 00:59:00,800
You think of the way, some
people chose to.
977
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:03,800
I don't know, the way to put it,
Braun.
978
00:59:04,700 --> 00:59:09,400
They chose to pick and choose
what Caleb said and run with it.
979
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:12,600
Well, I feel like it started
with the original article with
980
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:16,900
with P of T, you know, that's
where it came from, the, the
981
00:59:16,900 --> 00:59:21,100
quotes about, you know, whatever
was happening on the field and
982
00:59:21,100 --> 00:59:23,300
guys going to Myrtle Beach and
all that came out.
983
00:59:23,300 --> 00:59:27,800
Yes, it came from words that
Caleb wrote but it seemed like
984
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:32,100
based on some of the additional
commentary.
985
00:59:32,100 --> 00:59:36,700
We got that that was kind of
like cherry-picked lines.
986
00:59:36,700 --> 00:59:41,300
Amongst a much larger statement
that was made and, you know,
987
00:59:41,300 --> 00:59:46,600
we've seen kind Of what PFT has
been doing with their coverage
988
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:51,700
of covid and what they think
about what a season should or
989
00:59:51,700 --> 00:59:53,100
should not look like in this
case.
990
00:59:53,100 --> 00:59:59,000
So I'm not saying that it was a
politically motivated or a.
991
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:04,700
See I told you so type story but
it kind of definitely kind of
992
01:00:04,700 --> 01:00:07,000
felt like that it felt like a
couple of the guys in the
993
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:13,900
Virginia writers kind of ran
with it and then You know, you
994
01:00:13,900 --> 01:00:18,500
get some, some additional
information to turns out that it
995
01:00:18,500 --> 01:00:25,200
wasn't between the Zodiac, alt
article in the Roanoke Times and
996
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:28,600
what happened on the The Today
Show, it's like, okay, well,
997
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:32,300
that's a slightly different
narrative than what we were
998
01:00:32,300 --> 01:00:34,700
seeing at first.
And I mean, I know the fallback
999
01:00:34,700 --> 01:00:37,500
was yes, it was Caleb's words.
All we did was report them.
1000
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:40,900
Yeah.
But you also selectively
1001
01:00:40,900 --> 01:00:44,800
reported what?
Was being played up at the media
1002
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:49,600
at large and not given Source
out the additional comment
1003
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:54,400
commentary you did.
Try to contact the Virginia Tech
1004
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:58,000
athletic department, which is
another debacle that will talk
1005
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:03,500
about right now.
Why do we have such a hard time
1006
01:01:03,500 --> 01:01:06,300
of getting in front of a story?
No clue.
1007
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,800
The only thing you can say is
whoever's running.
1008
01:01:10,500 --> 01:01:17,100
The pr does not know what
they're doing at all, because it
1009
01:01:17,100 --> 01:01:21,600
seems very odd to say this if
you put me in charge of PR FL, I
1010
01:01:21,607 --> 01:01:25,400
could be stuff I do because I
don't know exactly how to do
1011
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:30,000
that saying that there are some
things we knew the second that
1012
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:33,700
Caleb said coach Opted out first
thing that should have been
1013
01:01:33,700 --> 01:01:36,000
done.
Okay, let's sit right there.
1014
01:01:36,100 --> 01:01:39,100
Call PR Caleb's opting out.
We're going to make a statement
1015
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:41,500
with it.
Yeah, because you will, he was
1016
01:01:41,500 --> 01:01:45,700
going to make one you why we
fight.
1017
01:01:46,900 --> 01:01:50,700
We've had the conversation.
I want to put a press release
1018
01:01:50,700 --> 01:01:51,400
out of here.
Okay.
1019
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,200
With it.
Or when you make your press
1020
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:57,000
release, I want us to release at
the same time so we're on, we're
1021
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:58,500
in lock step of what we're doing
here.
1022
01:01:58,900 --> 01:02:05,900
So yeah, you know, No, you know,
it's just one of those things
1023
01:02:05,900 --> 01:02:08,700
where it feels like, this is
where we need to catch up to the
1024
01:02:08,700 --> 01:02:17,600
times, you listen to the Hokie
hangover podcast with what the
1025
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:24,200
mic and Ricky - Ricky with date.
But we've talking about the way
1026
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:28,100
they run donations.
He's like, this is Mom and Pops.
1027
01:02:29,100 --> 01:02:31,200
Look what you have here.
You can't run this, like,
1028
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:33,900
mom-and-pop, you have to run
this like a corporation.
1029
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:36,000
This is what it feels like with
the pr.
1030
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:39,900
Now, luckily, my name is Ola
crushed.
1031
01:02:39,900 --> 01:02:45,200
This how cold was on Today?
Show crushed it because I
1032
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:48,400
watched that, and if you read
and then Saul Caleb's word, you
1033
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:52,000
be like this guy didn't say the
this is not right.
1034
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:57,500
Very complimentary of Coach.
Mike went deep into it and you
1035
01:02:57,500 --> 01:03:03,700
know, It's sort of it sort of
died quick because when all that
1036
01:03:03,700 --> 01:03:06,100
stuff came out, it was just kind
of like, oh, it's a nothing
1037
01:03:06,100 --> 01:03:08,100
Burger.
We got the bad press, we
1038
01:03:08,100 --> 01:03:11,700
probably not going to get a
positive press to keep it going.
1039
01:03:11,700 --> 01:03:16,600
But you know what?
It got resolved and best of luck
1040
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:19,000
to Caleb.
I do think he is going to be a
1041
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:22,400
star in the NFL because you
don't teach running 24, miles,
1042
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:24,900
an hour.
No, he's in this star, dude.
1043
01:03:24,900 --> 01:03:28,700
He's going to be a big-time star
and just to like piggyback a A
1044
01:03:28,700 --> 01:03:31,400
bit on that man.
It's frustrating.
1045
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:34,200
Because when you don't have good
PR and when you don't get in
1046
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:38,500
front of a story, everything
that comes out after that feels
1047
01:03:38,500 --> 01:03:41,700
like damage control, even when
it's not absolutely.
1048
01:03:41,700 --> 01:03:45,700
Either the thing about, you
know, honoring a player's
1049
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:48,600
scholarship, even if they opt
out, we had already made that
1050
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:51,500
decision days before.
Caleb even announced.
1051
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:56,200
Yeah, and yet, that wasn't
something that was stated
1052
01:03:56,200 --> 01:04:01,000
publicly until after this hole.
- story hit.
1053
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:05,600
So that's something.
If you just communicate a little
1054
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:10,000
bit more, let things be known.
You know, it's not grandstanding
1055
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:12,400
or patting yourself on the back.
Sometimes it's just stating here
1056
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:14,600
is our policy.
Yep.
1057
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:16,400
You know, you don't have to look
at everything.
1058
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:19,300
That is a positive as something
that, you know, you don't want
1059
01:04:19,300 --> 01:04:20,600
to be back.
Slapping yourself.
1060
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:23,900
No, just State your policy be
transparent.
1061
01:04:23,900 --> 01:04:26,600
So that way, if there is a
situation like this, you've
1062
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:28,500
already got it in print.
That, that's your decision.
1063
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:31,600
And you don't look like you're
covering your ass after the
1064
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:33,400
fact.
Absolutely.
1065
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:36,300
And you feel like it's it's it
is slowly changing.
1066
01:04:36,300 --> 01:04:38,800
The door is slowly opening but
not fast enough.
1067
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:42,400
You know, I think what they need
to understand is you can you can
1068
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:44,800
open it up.
It's almost The French Door
1069
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:47,200
aspect.
You can open up this side where
1070
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:50,500
people can see in and keep the
other one closed or crack to a
1071
01:04:50,508 --> 01:04:52,400
point where they can't see
everything.
1072
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:54,600
Yeah.
Um, so yeah.
1073
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:57,700
Alright.
So let's do some hokey headlines
1074
01:04:57,700 --> 01:05:00,100
here.
Lots of stuff going on, but
1075
01:05:00,100 --> 01:05:04,200
we've had some good news.
The first brine guy, you like a
1076
01:05:04,207 --> 01:05:07,700
lot Cole.
Nelson, commits to the Hokies
1077
01:05:07,700 --> 01:05:10,900
the three-star out of
Alpharetta, Georgia down at
1078
01:05:10,900 --> 01:05:16,800
Johns Creek, 63 230, defensive
end, you know?
1079
01:05:17,100 --> 01:05:19,800
Not a lot of big offers solid
rating.
1080
01:05:20,700 --> 01:05:24,400
What do you think we're getting
from a from Coleman?
1081
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:28,100
I mean he's underrated guys, I
think I mean, I'm not saying
1082
01:05:28,100 --> 01:05:33,400
that just blow smoke up your ass
here, rated 86.
1083
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:34,900
I mean, I think he's better than
that.
1084
01:05:34,900 --> 01:05:37,300
He's going to be a guy that's
going to make some plays for us,
1085
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:40,000
probably pretty quick in the
process.
1086
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:42,200
I like him.
Probably in the same ballpark as
1087
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:46,400
I liked, you know, the tape on a
leak, Bryant in a lot of cases.
1088
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:50,100
So I feel like they're the same
type of player from a from a
1089
01:05:50,107 --> 01:05:52,600
size perspective perspective and
what they like to do on the
1090
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:54,300
field.
So I think we're getting a
1091
01:05:54,308 --> 01:05:55,600
really good price.
Aspect with him.
1092
01:05:55,600 --> 01:06:00,500
I'm looking forward to getting
him in Blacksburg, you know,
1093
01:06:00,500 --> 01:06:05,000
once we close out this year,
hopefully, we can get some, some
1094
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:08,900
traction on getting some more
official visits here, for a lot
1095
01:06:08,900 --> 01:06:10,700
of these kids.
I know he's already visited once
1096
01:06:10,700 --> 01:06:14,500
I believe, but it'll be nice to
get some of these kids back on
1097
01:06:14,500 --> 01:06:17,100
campus, even if it's not to
watch a game.
1098
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:20,100
Yep, just to get on back.
Home can to get them.
1099
01:06:20,100 --> 01:06:22,200
Comfortable.
Surroundings would be awesome.
1100
01:06:22,700 --> 01:06:25,300
And you look at it.
It's 63 230.
1101
01:06:25,300 --> 01:06:27,100
He's not far away from a
playing.
1102
01:06:27,100 --> 01:06:30,300
Wait, you probably even feel
comfortable saying if he comes
1103
01:06:30,300 --> 01:06:33,400
in first year.
Weighing 235 pounds and he chose
1104
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:36,700
good, you can find ways to get
him on the field.
1105
01:06:37,900 --> 01:06:43,000
I do think, I think we are to
we're a week away from bump.
1106
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:46,200
For 24/7.
There are many things.
1107
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:49,700
I think you could see him, maybe
go up a little bit but either
1108
01:06:49,700 --> 01:06:54,600
way, it's a steal loving that
wasn't where it ended though.
1109
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:59,100
With recruits brine we got one
of the old lineman price good,
1110
01:06:59,100 --> 01:07:04,400
no Athens Tennessee, McMinn High
School, no rating or 24/7.
1111
01:07:04,900 --> 01:07:08,000
So we always do in there is no
rated Guy, Brian.
1112
01:07:08,700 --> 01:07:11,900
Where is the tape?
Look at the tape your number.
1113
01:07:12,300 --> 01:07:16,600
All right. 63 300, big boy, big
board.
1114
01:07:17,300 --> 01:07:21,400
This is a guy that pushes folks
around.
1115
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:26,400
He gets out, I watched a couple
plays where he was out there
1116
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:30,000
leading leading on a couple of
sweeps and this guy can get out
1117
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:36,000
in space and block but just
inside the tackles, he can push
1118
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:38,700
put folks around.
I really like this guy.
1119
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:42,000
He was on.
Who was the only Sons?
1120
01:07:42,100 --> 01:07:43,400
He's always Sun.
Yeah.
1121
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:47,000
And just right away.
As soon as he's been a hokey, he
1122
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:51,400
just seems like he's, he's like
that prototypical like Hokey
1123
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:54,100
offensive lineman from a
mentality standpoint, I really
1124
01:07:54,100 --> 01:07:56,500
dig that.
So I'm excited about this guy.
1125
01:07:56,900 --> 01:07:59,800
I think he's going to be
probably about 85 86.
1126
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:03,800
Okay, initial ranking.
I think he's, you know, it's
1127
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:05,900
shocking that he doesn't have
something out there.
1128
01:08:06,700 --> 01:08:10,000
I don't, I don't think he's
going to be in a low three-star
1129
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:13,600
range, but I don't think he's
quite in that Fringe 34.
1130
01:08:13,700 --> 01:08:17,200
Area either I think he's kind of
writing that 85 range but if he
1131
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:21,399
can clean up past Pro, if he can
clean up past Pro, he's gonna be
1132
01:08:21,399 --> 01:08:26,100
a monster because he can
definitely run block like very
1133
01:08:26,100 --> 01:08:29,000
few.
People can coming in something
1134
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:32,600
else.
He was he said on son, Shout Out
1135
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:37,100
Billy Pat Grayson by Stone.
He's going to play center and
1136
01:08:37,100 --> 01:08:41,600
Brawn when I'm gonna rattle off
a few things where he has offers
1137
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:43,600
from and tell me if it's
jockeys.
1138
01:08:43,700 --> 01:08:47,800
It's enter the Air Force
Academy, the Naval Academy
1139
01:08:48,500 --> 01:08:54,200
harvard-yale, pin Cornell.
Does it shock you that they're
1140
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:56,300
moving him to center?
Now, he's got something
1141
01:08:56,300 --> 01:08:57,899
upstairs, he's will be making
some calls.
1142
01:08:59,399 --> 01:09:02,200
Yeah, he's already.
Got the sighs you've already
1143
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:03,800
talked about.
His run blocking is getting in
1144
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:06,100
the past Pro.
Let me ask this Prime because
1145
01:09:06,100 --> 01:09:07,600
you talked about that's what he
needs to clean up.
1146
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:10,600
Will he have less to clean up
that he's going to be going even
1147
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:13,500
further inside?
It's definitely.
1148
01:09:13,700 --> 01:09:16,500
Owing to help because he has
less to do with said more about
1149
01:09:16,500 --> 01:09:20,000
just the technique and being
able to, you know, snap his head
1150
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:23,700
back, get a good punch, make
sure that there's no initial
1151
01:09:23,700 --> 01:09:27,300
penetration on the interior
because that's where you used to
1152
01:09:27,308 --> 01:09:30,200
establish a pocket at the front
front, half of the line there.
1153
01:09:30,300 --> 01:09:33,600
I mean, I know there's been a
lot of talk about, you know,
1154
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:37,800
comparing him with Brock in
terms of like that motor and
1155
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:41,200
being able to just completely
take over a guy on the inside
1156
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:44,300
from a running perspective.
So I think moving Him insides
1157
01:09:44,300 --> 01:09:48,100
going to help him leverage some
of that, some of the struggles.
1158
01:09:48,100 --> 01:09:50,100
He may have in the, in the, in
pass blocking.
1159
01:09:50,100 --> 01:09:51,700
So I think it's gonna be a good
thing for him.
1160
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:54,800
Yeah.
I'm ready to will see him get
1161
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:58,300
that recruiting bump in a week
from now.
1162
01:09:58,300 --> 01:10:00,100
I'll see the Hokies ratings go
up.
1163
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:04,200
Although this guy Nexon talk
about Brian, he's not a high
1164
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:08,800
school guy, but an FCS transfer
from Villanova changa Hodge
1165
01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:12,100
transferring in.
If he can play this year 6-1
1166
01:10:12,100 --> 01:10:20,800
200-pound Last year of Villanova
65 receptions. 1118 yards. 13
1167
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:25,800
touchdowns on.
Yep, he's taking the step up
1168
01:10:29,700 --> 01:10:32,700
those numbers.
That's a see a schedule.
1169
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:35,300
Yeah.
Yeah.
1170
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:42,300
Let me see eight catches 134
yards.
1171
01:10:44,300 --> 01:10:46,900
And they lit him up for 390,
total passing yards in that
1172
01:10:46,900 --> 01:10:50,400
game.
So he accounted for about 40% of
1173
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:53,500
those yards, that's a pretty big
thing there.
1174
01:10:53,500 --> 01:10:59,400
I mean it looks like he runs
really good routes really good
1175
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:01,700
against, you know, one-on-one
impress.
1176
01:11:01,700 --> 01:11:04,900
So I like what he's doing.
I mean I'm not sure if he's
1177
01:11:04,900 --> 01:11:07,700
going to be a guy that's going
to press for you know the first
1178
01:11:07,700 --> 01:11:10,800
three wide receivers on the
field but definitely is going to
1179
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:13,200
help with our depth, which is
what we need a lot after some of
1180
01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:16,800
our Archers.
So you know nothing to complain
1181
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:20,800
about their love that.
Absolutely, I'm trying to figure
1182
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:23,100
this out because I'm looking at
it here.
1183
01:11:24,500 --> 01:11:28,300
Is he a junior this year or is
he a senior this year?
1184
01:11:29,500 --> 01:11:34,200
That is a great question.
From all I've heard is that he
1185
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:37,800
was immediately eligible.
So you know, you talk about
1186
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:40,400
building depth and in some mouth
while I'm looking this up.
1187
01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:43,800
Is this going to become a trend
to?
1188
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:48,800
Our guys at the FCS level who
have breakout Seasons going to
1189
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:54,200
bust their asses to graduate and
get one or two years of
1190
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:59,900
Eligibility at the FBS level.
If they put the production out
1191
01:11:59,900 --> 01:12:03,800
there, I mean we're starting to
see it a lot more and I think as
1192
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:08,800
more and more FBS teams get used
to the transfer portal.
1193
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:13,100
We're starting to see a lot more
of it and I think in the past we
1194
01:12:13,100 --> 01:12:16,900
saw, you know, T might take a
chance here or a chance there on
1195
01:12:16,900 --> 01:12:20,100
these players, but I think with
the transfer portal and guys
1196
01:12:20,100 --> 01:12:23,500
that are already, you know, your
roster is already more fluid
1197
01:12:23,500 --> 01:12:25,900
than it used to be.
So you're going to take these
1198
01:12:25,900 --> 01:12:31,900
risk on guys, that have a big
body of work versus maybe a guy,
1199
01:12:31,900 --> 01:12:35,100
that's more of a project that
has potential but hasn't shown
1200
01:12:35,100 --> 01:12:37,400
it on the field.
So you're usually weighing that
1201
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:40,800
in terms of the transfer portal.
You got I mean really do you see
1202
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:42,900
like true stars in the transfer
portal?
1203
01:12:42,900 --> 01:12:47,400
Usually you see guys that Had
eather are with power five teams
1204
01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:52,700
that either had a decent season,
or, you know, sparked here and
1205
01:12:52,700 --> 01:12:53,800
there.
But didn't get a lot of
1206
01:12:53,808 --> 01:12:58,300
opportunities that want to
potentially see their their reps
1207
01:12:58,300 --> 01:13:03,400
go up or they want to start
somewhere else or, you know guys
1208
01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:07,600
like, you know, changa Hodge
here that had a really good
1209
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:11,600
season at a Villanova that wants
to step up their game to the
1210
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:16,000
next level and any And he gets a
chance this year because when
1211
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:20,900
the FCS cancels well I'm going
to try to shop myself.
1212
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:24,800
He is a senior but in this what
we just read with the
1213
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:28,000
eligibility, if he's not quite
there you want to make a bet
1214
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:30,200
that they don't say hey dude
just chill.
1215
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:31,400
You're not going to play this
year.
1216
01:13:31,700 --> 01:13:33,900
You'll go through spring.
You'll go through a full fall
1217
01:13:33,900 --> 01:13:38,200
camp and you'll have the
opportunity to play next year as
1218
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:43,400
a redshirt senior.
So I like it man.
1219
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:46,400
I like it.
Now Brian would also has
1220
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:50,500
happened.
Is our head coach Justin Fuente
1221
01:13:50,500 --> 01:13:53,500
at his first press conference
and said of couple things.
1222
01:13:57,000 --> 01:14:02,800
The ones that did not shocked
with a kind of shocked me that
1223
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:05,900
because again, it's quiet.
You don't hear much Jaden
1224
01:14:05,900 --> 01:14:08,900
Cunningham.
Essentially injured, his
1225
01:14:08,900 --> 01:14:12,200
Achilles Last Winter, he still
recovering.
1226
01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:16,100
He will not be, he's going to be
doing online classes.
1227
01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:20,700
And again, the way everything
we're reading, if he doesn't
1228
01:14:20,700 --> 01:14:23,200
play, he still has two more
years of Eligibility, which
1229
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:25,900
essentially helps long-term with
the fence.
1230
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:30,400
Of tackle depth, which we know
inside is where you need a lot
1231
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:34,100
of depth and then the other one
was cold back, strictly focusing
1232
01:14:34,100 --> 01:14:36,100
on track.
I think that's a lot of sense
1233
01:14:36,100 --> 01:14:39,200
for him.
You know, you see you some of
1234
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:41,900
this times.
I think, I think cold now is
1235
01:14:41,900 --> 01:14:45,200
probably looking at.
Can I make the Olympic team?
1236
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:46,700
Maybe not?
Heck.
1237
01:14:46,700 --> 01:14:49,600
Maybe even next year, maybe in
four years from now or some of
1238
01:14:49,608 --> 01:14:52,500
those other games?
Yeah, yeah, I think that's true
1239
01:14:52,500 --> 01:14:54,500
with him.
And, you know, it clears up an
1240
01:14:54,500 --> 01:14:58,800
extra extra look there at the
running back position.
1241
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:03,800
I know he was more scout team,
looking things like that but you
1242
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:06,200
know it's definitely another
spot on the roster for a running
1243
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:07,500
back.
I know we got a stacked room
1244
01:15:07,500 --> 01:15:11,400
there already but we do have
some guys that are more
1245
01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:13,600
versatile, that Flex out a
different positions.
1246
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:16,500
So I think that room is going to
be really interesting to watch
1247
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:19,400
if we can get the season this
fall and especially even going
1248
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:25,100
into next year.
Absolutely other one Taiwan
1249
01:15:25,100 --> 01:15:32,400
Garbutt, you know he is absent
right now from the hope these
1250
01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:35,900
it's it's non covid-19.
This one just some family things
1251
01:15:35,900 --> 01:15:39,000
going on.
He's on scholarship he's in
1252
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:40,500
school.
They don't know if he'll play
1253
01:15:40,500 --> 01:15:45,800
Garbutt was going to be looked
at as that you know potential
1254
01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:50,400
starter if not first guy in Miss
sometime last year.
1255
01:15:50,700 --> 01:15:55,400
Are had some really good plays
31 tackle.
1256
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:58,100
One sack.
I don't think it kills us.
1257
01:15:58,100 --> 01:16:01,200
Some people think that without
him it's going to significantly
1258
01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:03,100
hurt.
I think we read with Belmar,
1259
01:16:03,100 --> 01:16:04,800
some of the young guys stepping
up.
1260
01:16:06,300 --> 01:16:08,800
You know, Beatles and Brian
wootten.
1261
01:16:08,900 --> 01:16:11,500
It's not going to kill us.
So it's again, it's one of those
1262
01:16:11,500 --> 01:16:13,000
things.
If it's a family matter, whether
1263
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:15,500
it be a family member, six
months things going on.
1264
01:16:15,500 --> 01:16:19,500
Hey dude, do with the NCAA just
said, take your time.
1265
01:16:20,100 --> 01:16:22,300
Come back, you still have time
to play.
1266
01:16:23,500 --> 01:16:26,200
Yeah, that me even if he decides
at some point in the season, if
1267
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:29,400
he plays less than 50% of the
Season, he's getting this.
1268
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:32,000
This this year for free.
So he may be able to help us in
1269
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:34,700
crunch time if he, you know,
feels comfortable with coming
1270
01:16:34,700 --> 01:16:37,900
back to the team at that point.
There's potential there, but
1271
01:16:37,900 --> 01:16:40,400
obviously we want him to take
all the time.
1272
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:44,000
He needs it definitely hurts
because I do think he was going
1273
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:46,900
to be the guy playing opposite
read as the first guy out there.
1274
01:16:47,900 --> 01:16:50,600
I think that that Belmar does
well and I think he's going to
1275
01:16:50,608 --> 01:16:53,300
be the guy that's going to
probably get most of the reps
1276
01:16:53,300 --> 01:16:56,600
with carpet out, but I would
have liked to seen what garbage
1277
01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:59,000
could do is that first line
there and with Belmar being the
1278
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:02,200
first guy rotating in.
But you know, we'll see what
1279
01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:05,800
happens, but wish him nothing
but the best and, you know, he
1280
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:07,200
will Be back with us when he
can.
1281
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:12,900
So we're also still
unfortunately waiting on a NCAA.
1282
01:17:12,900 --> 01:17:23,100
Waiver for Raheem Blackshear.
Just play him, put him out
1283
01:17:23,100 --> 01:17:26,300
there, see what they say like
well we don't have a right, fuck
1284
01:17:26,300 --> 01:17:29,000
you.
You you don't have any control
1285
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:33,400
anymore like you just can't play
them against UVA so they can't
1286
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:36,000
take that away from us.
If we win the cup.
1287
01:17:36,100 --> 01:17:42,400
Back that's good that to a
bitch.
1288
01:17:42,700 --> 01:17:45,400
Now we one of the field man we
won't carry the n-c-double-a
1289
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:49,100
says he was ineligible help us
do anything.
1290
01:17:49,100 --> 01:17:53,400
We're trying to get prepared for
a season but in reality with the
1291
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:57,300
black sheer thing where it's
irritating is he put in his
1292
01:17:57,300 --> 01:18:01,200
request in January and his
request was my coach, the guy
1293
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:04,000
who recruited me got fired, I
belong play there anymore.
1294
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:07,900
I don't care who the normal
coach change.
1295
01:18:07,900 --> 01:18:12,100
Usually it's done.
He did it in January, JT
1296
01:18:12,100 --> 01:18:15,500
Daniels, did it in May.
He's got approved to his little
1297
01:18:15,500 --> 01:18:18,400
brother.
Did it in May he's got approved.
1298
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:20,600
There's a couple other guys
who've got to prove to did it
1299
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:23,800
pretty quick.
Seems like that the NCAA really
1300
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:26,800
don't care about when you do it.
It's about who you are in the
1301
01:18:26,808 --> 01:18:29,800
position you play.
So you know what team you're
1302
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:32,000
transferring to and from its
range.
1303
01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:36,300
Although it's funny now His
little brother can't play this
1304
01:18:36,300 --> 01:18:40,600
year, bro.
But the big piece is just
1305
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:43,100
fucking plane.
What are they going to do?
1306
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:48,200
What can they do?
Screw them and it's getting to a
1307
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:53,600
point where you know, what they
need to do honestly is just go
1308
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:56,500
ahead and say any transfer its
automatic play.
1309
01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:59,200
We're not we're not making
decision because of this stuff.
1310
01:18:59,700 --> 01:19:03,600
Brian coach said, one other
thing that kind of caught your
1311
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:09,300
ear and then kind of caught your
ear about with guy we talked
1312
01:19:09,300 --> 01:19:14,700
with a couple weeks ago.
Yes oh spoiler alerts a all the
1313
01:19:14,700 --> 01:19:17,300
Hokies out there.
There is an open quarterback
1314
01:19:17,300 --> 01:19:22,000
competition.
Now that's what he said and I
1315
01:19:22,008 --> 01:19:26,000
think this goes back to another
problem that coach Fuente
1316
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:28,500
sometimes has is that he says
something.
1317
01:19:28,500 --> 01:19:33,500
But means something slightly
different and what I think he
1318
01:19:33,500 --> 01:19:37,100
means here is that you know he's
paying lip service to these
1319
01:19:37,100 --> 01:19:38,500
players.
He wants to motivate them.
1320
01:19:38,500 --> 01:19:40,400
He wants to get the most out of
them at practice.
1321
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:44,900
He wants them to push each
other, to be the best they can
1322
01:19:44,900 --> 01:19:46,700
be.
And I think that's his way of
1323
01:19:46,700 --> 01:19:51,300
doing it is saying, essentially,
You have to earn this position
1324
01:19:51,300 --> 01:19:54,300
every day, you're not being
given this position.
1325
01:19:54,300 --> 01:19:56,900
You have to earn it every day.
That's not saying that the
1326
01:19:56,900 --> 01:20:01,000
position is not hinden hookers.
I think it is hindon hookers,
1327
01:20:01,700 --> 01:20:05,200
but I think he wants him to
approach each day of practice,
1328
01:20:05,500 --> 01:20:07,200
like he's still learning that
spot.
1329
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:12,000
Whether you think that's a good
thing or a bad thing, that's
1330
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:13,900
your opinion.
But I think that's my
1331
01:20:13,900 --> 01:20:15,800
interpretation.
I don't think that there is an
1332
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:18,600
open quarterback competition
that he doesn't know who his
1333
01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:21,300
starters going to be.
I think he knows and wants his
1334
01:20:21,300 --> 01:20:25,000
starter to be hitting a hooker
but he's not going to start him
1335
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:28,500
unless he goes out there and
earns that every day and gives
1336
01:20:28,500 --> 01:20:33,200
him the effort and the
performance and practice that he
1337
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:36,400
needs to see that that he's
progressing forward in his game.
1338
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:40,300
So that's my thought and that
goes back to You something when
1339
01:20:40,300 --> 01:20:44,500
we had John McLaughlin on couple
weeks ago he was talking about
1340
01:20:44,500 --> 01:20:46,700
that when it came to the when
coach Vice came in on the
1341
01:20:46,700 --> 01:20:49,400
offensive line his last year
there and saying essentially,
1342
01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:52,400
you know, none of these
positions are set in stone.
1343
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:56,200
Heli, what part of the line you
play in isn't set in stone.
1344
01:20:57,100 --> 01:20:59,800
We're going to put the best five
out there as far as who's
1345
01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:01,500
practice.
Well that week who's done.
1346
01:21:01,500 --> 01:21:04,900
Well, we might get to a point
where we say, okay, these five
1347
01:21:04,900 --> 01:21:09,100
are the best five and as long as
they're doing the right, Things
1348
01:21:09,100 --> 01:21:11,300
during the week.
Those are the starters but
1349
01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:13,800
that's not settled until it is
settled.
1350
01:21:14,300 --> 01:21:16,800
And I think you've got this a
similar situation here at
1351
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:21,100
quarterback where you know, he
knows who his best guy is but he
1352
01:21:21,100 --> 01:21:23,300
wants to keep pushing that best
guy to get better.
1353
01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:29,800
And he thinks the best way to do
that is essentially saying It's
1354
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:31,800
yours.
You know is not saying it's your
1355
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:35,300
spot to lose saying it's open
claim it.
1356
01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:40,800
Yeah.
Go out and play and I don't I
1357
01:21:40,808 --> 01:21:43,700
think Hinton is the starter.
I know people talk about, you
1358
01:21:43,708 --> 01:21:46,800
know, apparently Braxton looked
good in practice and stuff.
1359
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:52,000
But it's like, you know what
Hindu Hendon had you on the
1360
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:55,600
verge of 8 wins?
No losses.
1361
01:21:56,600 --> 01:22:02,000
On the verge and you saw his
progression and I tell you
1362
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:04,500
something, just looking at some
of the pictures and some of the
1363
01:22:04,500 --> 01:22:09,100
videos and then looks like he's
got a lot more cut up and dude,
1364
01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:12,900
somebody set it on Twitter and
me and you kind of peaked at at
1365
01:22:12,900 --> 01:22:15,600
that release.
Looks a lot faster than it did
1366
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:18,100
last year.
I know it's in practice but it
1367
01:22:18,100 --> 01:22:22,200
just it's almost like looking at
things so much quicker man which
1368
01:22:22,600 --> 01:22:25,900
with who we have it wide out and
I know some people think we're
1369
01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:31,200
We're both in with thin but we
have guys if they stay healthy
1370
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:35,100
it's a dangerous core.
Yeah, so yeah.
1371
01:22:35,100 --> 01:22:39,200
All right, Brian anything else,
anything dropping while we're
1372
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:42,900
sitting here talking watching
sports, seeing nothing came
1373
01:22:42,900 --> 01:22:45,000
across my border.
That I feel like we need to talk
1374
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:46,800
about.
So I think we're good man.
1375
01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:54,100
So let me ask this guy's Do you
think that the Pac-12 in the Big
1376
01:22:54,400 --> 01:22:57,100
Ten pulled the plug way too soon
on the season?
1377
01:22:57,300 --> 01:23:00,700
My opinion is absolutely.
They did way too soon because
1378
01:23:00,700 --> 01:23:02,800
when we're looking at
potentially, you could push this
1379
01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:04,600
thing back.
Six or seven weeks.
1380
01:23:04,700 --> 01:23:06,800
Yeah.
You, you screwed the pooch on
1381
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:09,800
that run any time right there
with you, man.
1382
01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:13,600
I mean, if you're talking about,
you're starting a season as late
1383
01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:17,800
as the first or second week in
October potentially, and you're
1384
01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:21,900
making decision now knowing that
these There's going to still be
1385
01:23:21,900 --> 01:23:24,300
on campus but saying you're not
going to play football.
1386
01:23:24,900 --> 01:23:27,000
Here's my thing.
If that's where your that's
1387
01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:30,400
where your think you're heading,
push the start of the Season
1388
01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:34,200
back, get the kids on campus,
give it two to three weeks.
1389
01:23:34,700 --> 01:23:39,600
See, if there's any sort of
surge on campus and then make a
1390
01:23:39,608 --> 01:23:44,300
decision based on actual numbers
and not on whatever your gut
1391
01:23:44,300 --> 01:23:47,500
feeling is right now.
Everything is about risk
1392
01:23:47,500 --> 01:23:55,100
assessment based on like macro
details and not on the micro
1393
01:23:55,100 --> 01:23:57,800
details of each individual
institution in each individual
1394
01:23:57,800 --> 01:24:02,500
conference.
So I feel like they waited, they
1395
01:24:02,500 --> 01:24:05,800
didn't wait long enough to make
the decision that they made
1396
01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:08,900
because it's a very it's a very
drastic decision that's going to
1397
01:24:08,900 --> 01:24:14,400
impact a lot of different
aspects not only of the sport
1398
01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:16,900
but of each school and their
communities.
1399
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:21,300
Absolutely absolutely.
Alright.
1400
01:24:21,300 --> 01:24:24,000
Well that is going to wrap up
this episode of The Boundary
1401
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:26,300
Corner podcast, what do we in
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1402
01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:32,400
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I'm Brian Sigler.
1403
01:24:32,900 --> 01:24:36,900
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1408
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