It's been a busy week and we're here to break it all down for you. We're leading with a deep dive into the run of recruiting wins in the week leading up to the Fourth. We also talk USC and UCLA heading to the Big 10 and the ramifications both for the ACC and the Hokies. We close out this episode with a look at the new division-less ACC and what the ACC got right and wrong with the Hokies permanent opponents.

Show Notes
Transcript

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Welcome back to the boundary
Corner podcast.

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Brother.
We are back after a little

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layoffs.
I'm Curtis Wilson.

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I'm Brian Sigler.
Yeah buddy.

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It's been a little bit of time
here but we're back at it here

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on a Wednesday night.
Doing what we do, we got a lot

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of topics tonight.
A lot of stuff to cover.

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We spoke last week on Monday and
we basically said we don't have

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enough to go this week, maybe.
30 minutes.

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Let's Skip and it's like the
college football.

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God said, oh really guys, here's
a bunch of crap.

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Yeah, well, some content, we got
some content for you.

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Yeah, we have some hokey stuff,
we got some hokey adjacent

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stuff.
We got some national stuff.

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Here you go, he's everything.
And it's everywhere.

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And, you know, we haven't been
here in a few weeks.

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But for the next three weeks,
you're going to see us back to

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back to back.
We each then we're going to take

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a little break before the season
and for the Camp starts but, you

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know, your boys.
We got to have a little Vacation

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time Brian had a wedding to go
to.

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We've been doing the normal
spawn, summertime stuff here.

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Yeah, it kind of is what it is,
everything between the pool and

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Cocktails and cookouts.
Yeah, trip trip trip to New York

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for a wedding, had another
wedding thrown in there.

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Been been down to the beach, a
couple times, not not anywhere

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far away.
Just just Virginia Beach with

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the inlaws, So but it's been a
good time.

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It's been, it's been a fun
summer.

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So far, we got through the
fourth had a good time.

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So a little fireworks, you know,
didn't didn't blow up little

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finger off or anything.
So I think we're doing, all

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right.
He should just say he didn't

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jpp.
I did not jpp it.

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Oh no, I'm not going to roll in
here.

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Missing digits.
I think I'm good.

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But let's get to a brownie.
Have so much to cover.

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Let's hit a couple quick
headlines before we get into the

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deep topics of the night.
Let's start with this.

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Now, it's just a few weeks ago.
Pete Morris is essentially no

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longer the assistant ad.
He has moved to Northern Iowa

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and is now the director of
University relations.

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I have not seen any announcement
as of this time.

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I'm who is replacement is if
somebody has let us know, I

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heard it was up to her mop with
a bucket for a head on a great

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jobs.
Well, let's just say this, we

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clearly know that over the last
about six months, seven months,

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people like RJ of the Hokey
football Twitter account.

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Yeah, they took they took away
his passwords.

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He was no longer.
They send me the tweets and you

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could tell it.
It was obvious.

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Yes, we hit 3 because dude,
tweeted the same from The Hokey

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account, like he did from his
personal account.

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Man, only thing missing is he
didn't tweet some like weird-ass

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steak. was he was eating at
night, he was leaving in but

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that but the bigger pieces, it
finally, we noticed after that

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time, it looks like they had
given it to someone potentially

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a student.
You can tell by the way it's

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tweeted it's not your you have
some set time stuff but it's not

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everything set timed.
It's in random stuff out there.

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Some fun stuff Graphics
Department always doing an

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awesome job.
So Pete's going to be interested

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to see cuz I feel like this is
going to be one of those Brent

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priors you kind of know about
because this is essentially

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going to be his media guy.
So interesting, I'm assuming is

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going to come from Penn State at
some point.

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State or some other stuff that
he's had along the way.

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Exactly.
Exactly.

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All right, let's hit this real
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A little national news, it's not
official yet, but it looks like

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there's been recommendations for
transfer portal Windows.

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It used to basically just be a
free-for-all for nine months.

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From basically August 12 May 1
in that's just dumb.

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You have kids trans you know
getting in the portal in season.

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But now they're looking at
potentially two windows

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essentially, the way it's
shaping up one after second

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national Signing Day and then
one after Spring ball for a

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couple weeks.
I will say I like this because a

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it to me it helps the students
out because they need to commit

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to where they're going to be at
for the semester because how

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many kids are out there right
now, without a place to go.

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It said, yes sad because there
are so many kids that do not

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have a home and and some kids, I
think it's going to help having

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them, you know, if it's one of
those in season.

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Ian's, you know, if the
situation is unfavorable hey you

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stick it out for the rest of the
season, you might get some extra

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tape that's going to benefit
exactly where your next stop is.

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So but then also, with the whole
idea of the Spring ball thing Is

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if you go through spring
practice to where you are,

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right.
Yep.

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Go to Spring practice where you
are again more additional tape.

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You know, there's tape going on
every day inside these programs

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and if you like you're not the
fit again, there's more info to

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get out to your potential.
Next school.

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Also like having it after
national Signing Day.

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The second one, which should be
the only one but that's neither

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here nor there because at least
at that point in time or the

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coaching.
Staffs now week away from the

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student athlete They know where
they sit at, right?

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They know exactly where they sit
at and it's kids start going.

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They can start preparing for the
next recruiting cycle versus the

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way it is.
Now, you know, you could be

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sitting there and it's like,
okay, boom, dropping the hammer

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in the middle of the season.
It's like, okay, we didn't

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account for this.
So I think the winners are a

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good idea.
Of course, they're planning on

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it.
Because what else does the NCAA

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do?
They can't make decisions to

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save their life.
So you the n-c-double-a having a

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good idea put on their plate and
then talking about it and

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punning.
I've never heard that story

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before in my life.
Oh wait that's every situation

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that we've been dealing with the
past 15 20 years and it's

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probably why the situation we're
going to talk about a little

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lady.
Here has happened and eventually

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I think I want to see any Josh
P, put it out there for those

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who hate the NCAA, what
happened?

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Kind of could be the beginning
of the end.

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So we'll see ya.
Yeah, and I mean, let's talk

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about the windows a little bit
more real quick before you move

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on.
You know, we talked you talked

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about the window after the the
second signing day, I'm a bigger

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fan of maybe having it after the
first Signing Day, okay?

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Only because if you're looking
to get enrolled in a new school,

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get in the winter workouts, with
that new school, the timing

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works better like mid-December
through early January versus Has

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little bit later in January.
And if that be weary in, that

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makes sense to either way,
you've got to have a time limit

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on it, you can't just have a
free-for-all like, it's been but

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again, something the NCAA didn't
want to govern as usual still

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not governing at the moment.
So hopefully it gets worked out

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one way or the other by someone
of the other real quick kick,

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the basketball.
You met illuma, did not get

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drafted, but he has, you know,
signed on with the Grizz I think

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me and you were to the point he
made the right decision.

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You know, obviously now he's got
a free agent contract in

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regardless, what workouts, he
would works out in the NBA.

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The hope is he can make a roster
and stay in the league 10 years.

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Yeah, but I think now because
he's getting that pub at the NBA

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level I think if he cannot get
on with anyone in the league

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he's going to have a 10 or 12
year career somewhere overseas

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whether it's Germany.
Italy, Spain, France.

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Some of those you know good
second-tier leagues.

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Yep.
And have a very healthy living

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like several Hokies have over
the last decade.

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Yeah, I mean he's definitely
going to be a guy that can tear

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up one of the European leagues.
You know whether he can catch on

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and find a bench role or a role
player roll with with an NBA

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team is to be seen but you know,
I definitely think he's gonna,

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he's got professional career
ahead of him for the next five

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to ten years regardless of
whether that's here or somewhere

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overseas.
He's now so best of luck to

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alumina in the future, and
Brian, we've hit it.

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We are about to hit one of our
three big topics tonight.

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We're going to look at
recruiting Because boy.

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Oh boy has the last week.
Been pretty crazy for the Hokies

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as the Hokies landed six
commits.

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Um, you know, since roughly the
end of last week.

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Yep.
Currently her 24/7, ranked 35th

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with with 15 total commits.
Remember, this is no limit this

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year.
So I think we're halfway there.

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I think we'll see it.
I think at least 10 more,

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probably 15 more or by having
this shit, What we're Living on

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a Prayer.
We're halfway there.

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We're halfway there.
We're Living on a Prayer.

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Yes, exactly. 35th in the
overall and the composite kind

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of where we said we should be.
We won't top 30.

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I think we can live with 35 but
let's talk about these kids

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crying.
Take a look at them.

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Each, let's start with the first
commit here.

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You know, we talked about, you
got to look at the small school.

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You cannot Over look like
places, where we grew up and

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they didn't Overlook and it's to
vorian Copeland at Appomattox

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counting.
Not too far from where we grew

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up.
He's a linebacker Prospect for

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2476. 493 pounds, he is the
19th, ranked player in the state

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of Virginia.
He is a three-star, 87 /, 24/7.

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And you know, his offer lists
Definitely a smart kid with

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offers from Pain, Princeton and
Dartmouth.

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But essentially, it came down
really to UVA and Tech he chose

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Tech.
So just kind of taking a look at

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him.
Brian.

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What are you projecting for
Copeland?

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He's kind of that guy could see
probably going to start in that

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Sam roll.
But could potentially move over

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to will, depending on how much
he's able to put on Weight Wise

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and play against the Run.
But I like his build out the

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gate.
That 64 frame can definitely

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take a little bit more size.
Get him in the weight room.

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Get a little bit more weight on
him and see what he can do.

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But runs pretty well.
I like his athleticism.

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We'll see if he can hold up at
Sam but if he's not at saying, I

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could see him sliding over to
will at some point.

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Um, you know, do you?
I mean, I think he's one of

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those guys that's probably when
he steps on campus is a

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three-year project.
Appomattox is a very small.

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I can't remember their to a or
1A 2A.

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I think to a well.
So, he's coming from a smaller

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school.
He probably is the best athlete

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on the field, every time he
plays.

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Yeah.
And which sometimes that hurts,

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but sometimes that helps You
know it's one of those coin

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flip, some guys get in they
can't they can't deal with it

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some guys get it and they strive
to be what they were before.

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So you're projecting at a
linebacker position.

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His primary recruiters Joe
Rudolph and Chris, Mar I think,

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you know, we saw Rudolph, we
know, he went through glass, he

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was down on Southside.
So clearly he's kind of found

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his neck of the woods there and
sure for sure.

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Awesome, good land there.
Now, the next one. you know that

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we went out of state on But it's
still within the footprint, by

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maybe 10 minutes.
Obviously a connection to Brent

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Pride Penn State and prize
listed as his primary recruiter

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with more being a secondary and
that's a sand Stevens at a

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Decatur Central and Indianapolis
64, 210 lb linebacker, a top 10

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player in the state of Indiana
three-star. 87, And you know

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offers from Iowa State Purdue
and you know looks like

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Cincinnati had some interest
from some other big ten schools

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like Nebraska and Minnesota.
So definitely Real Deal Prospect

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obviously with Tommy Stevens is
brother being you know also a

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division one player footballs in
his blood Brian.

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Where are you projecting
Stevens?

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And you know how far do you
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He doesn't have to come.
As far as Copeland, I'm

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projecting him at a Mike, I
think, just based on his speed,

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he's probably doesn't have
enough quickness to to be

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outside, whether it will or in
Sam.

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I think he's definitely going to
end up in Mike, but I like, I

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like his instincts.
I like his technique.

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He's somebody that depending on
what happens.

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You know, with after this
season, I can see him having the

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impact probably in his second
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So me he's he could be the real
deal, not necessarily an elite

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player at the position, but
somebody solid that can hold

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that down as we kind of
transition from one regime to

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the next.
Bo super interesting to see that

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prowess is primary and that
might have been.

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Maybe he was the primary when he
was at Penn State and it's just

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one of those things that can
carry over because very rarely.

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Do you see a head coach be a
primary only guy?

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So you kind of Wonder is this
his linebacker?

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His prototypical Mike linebacker
would just suggest be to go

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ahead.
Just just enough speed to go you

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start sideline to sideline and
get there.

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He's not Got somebody that's
gonna, You Know, cover a slot

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receiver, one-on-one.
You don't, you don't want that

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match up a lot of the game but
he's a guy that can hang in

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there and get the job done.
And as you said, I think, you

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know, Pride was probably his
primary at Penn State.

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They already had a relationship
established, he kept that going

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brought Marvin's and smart was
going to be his position coach,

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and his coordinator, and kind of
let the rest take care of

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itself.
But I think of the, the

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linebacking pickups that we had,
this is probably my Favorite.

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Because I think it's a really
good fit for prize system,

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especially if you know, he's
able to stick it to my position.

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Yeah.
Now, he does play also

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quarterback and I know there was
the joke from his brother about

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possibly getting some time in
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Bowen, I don't foresee that, but
it's always, you know, it's

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always good to know, having a
linebacker who played that

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position, because there is a lot
of the mental parts to

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understand.
If you're playing a, how many

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times do we always hear it?
Crying.

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Go back to your Everett team
with Peyton Manning when they

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played the Ravens.
How many matchups was it between

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Manning and Louis?
Making the calls, make the

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adjustments making the second
one.

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So definitely like having that
background with him.

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Yeah, definitely a chess match
there.

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So if you can get somebody that
can handle that part of it.

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And kind of see things as
they're happening and pick it

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up, make the adjustments, get
everybody where they need to be

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get the alignment right.
That's what you need.

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Absolutely.
All right.

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But we weren't done yet.
That's, that's the

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understatement.
Oh my gosh.

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We're just getting halfway there
now.

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And the next was Caleb.
Woodson had a battlefield up in

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Haymarket rated as a safety 63
200 pounds.

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Number 31, player, in state of
Virginia, three starred in 86.

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Held some offers and some
interest from Florida State Wake

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in Virginia Ryan.
You immediately told me the

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second we talked about him.
He's not going to play safety in

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this system.
Yeah.

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I mean I think he's going to end
up at Sam.

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I think he could play safety.
There's potential there but I

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think speed is probably his
biggest weakness, top end speed.

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I think we can get him at Sam
and because he does tackle.

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Well, he does have really good.
Instincts.

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I think Sam is going to be where
he ends up long-term and I think

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he can really thrive in that
position.

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Also, good to see here, you
know, Battlefield Haymarket

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that's up in Northern Virginia,
right?

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Right.
Yeah.

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My losing my mind.
So that's kind of the, you know.

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It's kind of one of your first
Northern.

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Virginia wins there again.
It's anything we see in

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Virginia.
Now, do we want four stars?

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Do we want?
Five stars from Virginia?

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Yes.
But it's something we've said

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since day one, it's you have to
lay the foundation.

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You have clue to make the
relationships and taking players

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who, you know, are, you know,
ranked in the top thousand and

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ranked in the top 30 in the
state, that's what you do.

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You find the players that fit
your system and what you hope

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is, it's the benefits later,
right?

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It's treating Caleb Woodson and
his family in the coaching staff

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at Battlefield, right?
If they have a four stars, In

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two or three years, he knows the
relationship.

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He knows how the staff treats
people.

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Yeah, that's going to be the big
thing.

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We're laying the foundation.
Again, we're getting back into

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those big schools that produce
consistent division.

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One Talent within the state, and
we're getting those

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relationships back.
We've gotten away from that.

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We had gotten to a point where
if it wasn't, you know, a

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relationship that was already
there it was, they were finding

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it, hard to get some some
Headway of some of these key

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recruits in the state.
Eight.

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This is laying the foundation
and the guy we're going to talk

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about next is, is another big
part of laying that Foundation.

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It's at Primary School's,
absolute, before we jump to him.

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We got a couple folks that are
already hitting us up in the

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chat tonight.
Brian, let's throw those up

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here.
Obviously, Dwight always we

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appreciate you listening,
brother, talking about

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battlefields of great program
and he can play and he is a tech

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guy.
Love to hear that from the white

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and again, it's making the in
rows in Battlefield, and there's

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one more in there, Brian.
And talking about a Saint

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Stephen's, our coach Robbie
Compton.

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I buddy talking about Mike in
this system is closed as a cube.

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You can be on the D so we hear
that about Stephens again.

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It's good feelings.
But Brian, the next one that

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happened.
I think it hit watching the

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video gave chills seeing at one
picture with his dad's name, the

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reflection, the picture of Dad
in the background Braylon

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Johnson at a Highland Springs.
Restar when he committed it it

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felt like one of your own was
coming home and it was one of

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those.
I don't think I ever had a time

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since he started his recruiting,
that he wasn't going to come.

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I think he knows the importance
of it.

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I think he knows how big a
player.

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His dad was in the building of
the foundation back in the 90s.

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I think he understands how
important player he is right now

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and his high school is to the
rebuilding of the tech program.

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Yeah, this is a big pickup on
several fronts.

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Number one, he's a good player.
That's, that's first and

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foremost.
But number two, what it means to

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get a legacy player from a
program like hi.

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Springs, son of a great coach
and that's not hyperbole in the

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slightest, a great, great coach,
and great form of hokey.

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So, I mean, this is, this is
what it's all about.

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And watching the, the commit
video, obviously, both of us,

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you know, in the 804 area.
I mean, it was, it was special,

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you know, watching hokey
highlights watching.

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Shut up from, from his, his
area, the city.

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I mean it was special
across-the-board.

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Yes, it was super special.
Now let's talk about the

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football player now because, you
know, you know, he's Lauren

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Johnson's kid.
Everybody knows that, but when

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you look at the tape, E6, 170
pounds that project him and

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safety.
Is he staying at safety?

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Is he a corner?
Where do you think they're going

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to try to fit him in?
I think he's probably stays the

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safety.
I think he could be free safety

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in this system.
He might end up sliding over a

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corner.
A lot of times though.

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You know guys started corner and
get moved to safety so I don't

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know if that's the path.
He's if he's gonna come in and

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you know go through a spring or
fall with with cheetah and then

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slide over with piercing after
that.

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We'll see.
But I think ultimately he's

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going to end up playing safety
for us.

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I like to hear that, you know,
just just one of those, just one

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of those things that make you
feel good.

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One of the guys who was the
original DB, you son, hopefully

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bring it back to prominence
again.

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And I think again, in the state,
the Highland Springs, Inn Road

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were made at the end of the
Fuente era.

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Really driven hard home by JC.
I really do believe that I

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really do believe, JC and
Darrell and couple.

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Other guys, really drove it
home.

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And I think this program or this
current program, Am really knows

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the focus of it.
They know the focus of it and

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it's awesome to see.
So you know, I'm just glad he's

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committed again.
If you have not watched the

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video go watch it.
Especially if you're from here

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in Richmond.
It'll it should make you feel

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some chills.
All right, Brian, let's talk

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about some speed.
Next, let's talk about the

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eastern part of North Carolina,
Southern ashes on trail on

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Mitchell. 62 185 class.
Bad as an athlete.

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I think we are on his only
division or his only P5 offer

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East Carolina appstate, some
other folks that had a look at

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them here, 26 player in the
state of North Carolina, but you

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know, we hear speed and then you
hear ten point.

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Three hundred meters, that's
fast.

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Yeah, he's a burner, he's a
burner and yeah, he's fast and

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I'll tell you what, I like he's
fast, but I see 62.

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I see 185, hmm.
So he's fast but he's not like

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small fast.
He's got a little bit of size to

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him and I think that's going to
end up having him somewhere on

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that wide receiver position.
And I like that for him, I think

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initially at the gate, he's
probably going to be a special

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teams contributor, but I think
long-term, you can see him, you

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know, making some noise, even as
just You know, primary, you

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know, one-dimensional thread as
a wide receiver, you can see him

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making some plays that way.
Where's the tape out on him?

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What's it showing him doing?
You know, down at Southern Ash,

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that you've seen?
You know, he does a little bit

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of everything for them but you
know, they had them lined up a

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lot of different places on the
field, okay?

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On both sides of the ball.
But I like I said, I think

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primarily he's going to be a
white out for us.

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I'm just based on his frame, his
speed and what he can do with

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the football.
Yeah, primary recruiter Willis

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to whole second date was Tyler.
Bowling me and you talked about

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this with everybody Robbie and
some other folks, as well Steve

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Holt was brought in him and
Derek Jones were brought in to

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sort of handle North Carolina.
Stews dad was a coach down there

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one, some one, a lot lot of
connections and you know when

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you when you hear athlete and
then I hear what you talked

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about like he's everywhere
backfield all over the line

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playing defense.
Again, I don't feel like we were

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doing that as much in the last
are sometimes, it's just go find

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the best athlete on the field.
You bring him in, you figure out

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where he plays the best
Collegiate football and then you

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let him do it.
We saw that how many times in

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the Beamer area and it worked
out a lot, though.

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You know, sometimes we can don't
try to be, he is a running back

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like no, he is a football player
figure out of the running backs,

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his best position.
Impress talked about in several

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his press conference.
I'm sorry.

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You know, we'll get you on
campus.

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We know you're a player, we
like, how you go about your

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business, we'll figure out where
you can best, we can best

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maximize your abilities for your
success, and for our success and

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I think that's one of the type
of players that we're trying to

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get on campus.
And another one, is the the next

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guy we're going to talk about
here in just a couple minutes.

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Absolutely another athlete out
of the state of South Carolina,

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a top 10 player in the state of
South Carolina three star on.

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Had some interest from West
Virginia and Penn State and

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Thomas Williams.
Five foot, ten hundred eighty

447
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:38,700
pounds out of Powdersville, tell
me just out of Greenville area.

448
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,500
What's the tape saying on him?
I mean, Corner running back.

449
00:26:42,500 --> 00:26:44,300
You know, is he another
defensive back?

450
00:26:44,300 --> 00:26:48,500
The cheetah was his Primary
receiver.

451
00:26:48,500 --> 00:26:52,400
Yeah, I could see him being a
corner, I can see him line it up

452
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,200
at running back.
He's got, you know, I'm not

453
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,100
going.
I'm not going to compare him to

454
00:26:56,100 --> 00:26:59,700
to Macho Harris, but he's got
some of the same type of build,

455
00:26:59,700 --> 00:27:04,500
and same type of qualities.
Not quite as Elite level as

456
00:27:04,500 --> 00:27:07,100
Macho, obviously, but he's got
some of the same type of traits

457
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,000
and I think I can see him at
running back.

458
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:14,900
I can see him out there corner,
but you know, we'll see if he

459
00:27:14,900 --> 00:27:16,600
can do.
Open the into a starter at those

460
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:21,200
positions but he's got talent.
He's got some some, some good

461
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,200
wiggle at the running back
position, he's able to break

462
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,900
away when he gets in the open
field they use them a lot on

463
00:27:26,900 --> 00:27:30,800
some screens and things out of
the bout fact feel things

464
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,500
outside of the box so he's able
to do those things as well.

465
00:27:34,500 --> 00:27:38,600
So it might be if he ends up
running back, maybe more of a

466
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:43,400
more of a chance Black Rain
Blackshear type type model, I

467
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:47,400
think probably less less of a
Seaver than those two, but still

468
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:52,100
very capable.
Awesome.

469
00:27:52,100 --> 00:27:54,900
Anytime you hear name, Macho
Harris, it's tough to live up to

470
00:27:54,900 --> 00:27:57,600
that, but it's awesome to hear
the qualities, again.

471
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,700
He's an athlete.
I just said he get the athletes

472
00:28:01,700 --> 00:28:03,800
in the door, figure out their
best place to play.

473
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,400
Also like going down the South
Carolina, getting a top 10

474
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,300
player, they have certain
States, if you can get a top 10

475
00:28:09,300 --> 00:28:14,300
player and you feel good about
it and you know, but let's just

476
00:28:14,300 --> 00:28:16,400
talk over all about the last
week.

477
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:22,800
Really, it was 647 of the people
when you were announcing And the

478
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:28,600
seventh it had it had been the
ups and downs ups and downs was

479
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,300
you know, behind the scenes or
you know they didn't know it was

480
00:28:31,300 --> 00:28:33,900
going to do.
He eventually chose elsewhere

481
00:28:33,900 --> 00:28:39,900
but No, there's no big like
Crown Jewel in this with the

482
00:28:39,908 --> 00:28:43,300
exception of Braylon because of
who he is but they didn't know

483
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,700
how hundred player anything.
But what does he go?

484
00:28:46,700 --> 00:28:50,300
When you go on a streak like
that, when you get six good

485
00:28:50,300 --> 00:28:54,100
players they aren't scraping
they're all about 86. 87.

486
00:28:54,900 --> 00:28:57,400
Probably a few of them could get
bumped higher this year.

487
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,100
But what does that mean to you
in your head?

488
00:29:00,100 --> 00:29:03,100
When you hear this was a run
good players.

489
00:29:04,100 --> 00:29:08,600
Different areas of the country
you know athletic and overall

490
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,900
just good football players.
Yeah.

491
00:29:10,900 --> 00:29:13,600
I mean Mitchell aside, these are
all like mid-to-high three star

492
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,200
players.
These are your your typical Oil,

493
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:21,900
you know, year two year, three
contributors coming in, so I'm

494
00:29:21,900 --> 00:29:24,000
hoping to see, maybe even a
little bit higher than that, for

495
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,900
a couple of these guys,
depending on some of these areas

496
00:29:26,900 --> 00:29:31,500
where we have depth concerns.
But I think it's a good solid

497
00:29:31,500 --> 00:29:33,700
running gives you momentum on
the trail of gives you something

498
00:29:33,700 --> 00:29:38,100
to talk to other recruits about
and I think that's big when you

499
00:29:38,100 --> 00:29:41,600
got guys in the boat.
It's a little bit easier sell

500
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:46,600
than when you're trying to sell.
Sell something that Other people

501
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:51,100
haven't bought into yet.
And we know that the guys on

502
00:29:51,100 --> 00:29:54,500
that roster had bought in, but
we still have to get that buy-in

503
00:29:54,500 --> 00:29:58,900
from the guys that are coming
here for their future and that's

504
00:29:58,900 --> 00:30:01,400
still to be determined and it's
nice when you get a run like

505
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:06,500
this, especially from a couple
key areas in your state, along

506
00:30:06,500 --> 00:30:11,900
with some good grabs in the, the
outer reaches of your footprint.

507
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,100
It gives you momentum on the
trail and it gives you something

508
00:30:15,100 --> 00:30:18,700
else to sell.
Did you something else to get

509
00:30:18,700 --> 00:30:20,200
your?
Get your name on the lips

510
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:24,400
especially in the state of North
Carolina and South Carolina that

511
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:29,400
when it's discussed, that this
player here went to Virginia

512
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,100
Tech from this state.
Now, I really look at times

513
00:30:32,100 --> 00:30:35,200
Williams with that top 10 player
in South Carolina, leaving,

514
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,600
South Carolina.
I mean, it looks like he was was

515
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,900
not recruited by those down
there, but 24/7 puts him as a

516
00:30:41,900 --> 00:30:43,400
top 10.
Like we've always said, trust

517
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,600
24/7.
He's lowered really by the

518
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,400
composite rankings elsewhere.
Because if everybody had in

519
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,800
there, he'd be a significantly
higher than the composite but

520
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,700
it's it's getting those Good
Vibes in his those kids.

521
00:30:56,700 --> 00:30:59,800
As we talked about and Dwight
mention about Battlefield

522
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,200
getting the good relationship
building.

523
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:08,300
When you have that stud and the
coaches at your school in the

524
00:31:08,300 --> 00:31:12,600
family's inside your school and
the teachers can speak to who

525
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,600
these people are and where
you're going.

526
00:31:15,500 --> 00:31:19,500
It's so key because you see it
all the time and we've seen the

527
00:31:19,500 --> 00:31:22,300
social media blitz is and you
just hear stories from the

528
00:31:22,300 --> 00:31:26,800
Camp's, Real Deal coaching staff
here that this isn't a

529
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:31,400
nine-to-five for them that I
think these guys eaten, breathe

530
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,200
sleep at all the time.
Yep.

531
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,600
Yep.
And you can tell the seriousness

532
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,000
that they go about their
business.

533
00:31:38,700 --> 00:31:42,900
Yeah, you know, we'll see if
that turns into the recruiting

534
00:31:42,900 --> 00:31:44,700
winds that we need and the winds
on the field.

535
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:49,000
We need but we're definitely
going about our business a lot

536
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,700
better than we've seen in the
last, you know, five, six,

537
00:31:52,700 --> 00:31:58,400
seven, eight years, nine years,
whoo, that definitely throughout

538
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:03,200
the majority of the of the
Fuente era so we can definitely

539
00:32:03,300 --> 00:32:08,000
attest to that.
We can we can tell that that

540
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,000
we're putting the effort in and
we're seeing we're starting to

541
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,100
see some results, we're starting
to see that pay off some.

542
00:32:14,700 --> 00:32:19,500
I'm hoping that we get some more
bigger wins as we kind of close

543
00:32:19,500 --> 00:32:24,800
out the back half of this cycle
that's going to be important.

544
00:32:25,300 --> 00:32:26,900
Yeah we got it.
We had a lot more left.

545
00:32:27,700 --> 00:32:30,300
We got a lot more left.
We got we got about we're a

546
00:32:30,308 --> 00:32:34,500
little over halfway through
right now, we're but we need to

547
00:32:34,500 --> 00:32:40,400
keep pressing forward.
And keep looking for areas where

548
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,500
we can gain some ground but I
feel like we're building the

549
00:32:43,500 --> 00:32:46,700
right foundation.
I just want to see maybe one or

550
00:32:46,700 --> 00:32:50,000
two home runs as we're hitting
these singles, and doubles on

551
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:54,500
the trail.
All right here.

552
00:32:54,600 --> 00:33:01,700
Well Brian.
So we went to bed a week ago and

553
00:33:01,900 --> 00:33:05,800
you know, College football seem
normal, right?

554
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,800
They'll come is intact, you know
looking at the bigger Team

555
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,800
league, you know Camp sir, you
know the dead periods coming on.

556
00:33:15,900 --> 00:33:18,500
Obviously the coaches are
probably wrapping evaluations

557
00:33:18,500 --> 00:33:20,600
probably about to take their
two-week vacation before they

558
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:26,200
get ramped up for camp and all
of a sudden on the 30th, it

559
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:33,100
dropped that USC and UCLA would
be moving to the Big Ten.

560
00:33:34,100 --> 00:33:38,800
Yep, let me go ahead, but before
I give mine, give me your

561
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,100
initial reaction because I'm
sure your phone blew up.

562
00:33:42,100 --> 00:33:44,300
I'm sure your Twitter
notifications and other

563
00:33:44,300 --> 00:33:47,900
notification with this is like,
what the hell?

564
00:33:47,900 --> 00:33:51,900
It's you 30th?
Well, yeah, it was blowing up.

565
00:33:51,900 --> 00:33:54,000
It was blowing up by initial
reaction.

566
00:33:54,000 --> 00:34:01,600
Where is this?
The Domino. because, I think

567
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,500
we've been kind of flirting with
that.

568
00:34:04,100 --> 00:34:08,900
What's the Domino that's going
to really throw complete and

569
00:34:08,900 --> 00:34:14,300
utter turmoil into what we know?
Of call of as college football,

570
00:34:14,300 --> 00:34:18,400
right?
You know, we saw we thought it

571
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,300
might be something that when
Texas and Oklahoma made the SEC

572
00:34:21,300 --> 00:34:24,800
mood, was it going to be an
immediate domino effect there?

573
00:34:25,500 --> 00:34:28,600
You know, as soon as I saw this
news I was like, is this is this

574
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,600
the one where they're all going
to topple?

575
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,800
Or is this more of a?
Just the Big Ten is getting into

576
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:39,800
you know one of the three best
media markets in the country and

577
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,300
these two schools are trying to
reap the benefit of Big Ten.

578
00:34:42,500 --> 00:34:45,000
Media money.
Yeah.

579
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:49,100
Well - and it still to her is
still too early to tell at this

580
00:34:49,100 --> 00:34:51,800
point, but I mean I think that
that's where I was at the gate

581
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:56,000
is that is this is this, the
Domino that's going to lead to a

582
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,500
brand new era of college
football?

583
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:01,900
The New Order a college
football.

584
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:06,100
And it's looking like very well,
it could be because I think now

585
00:35:06,100 --> 00:35:10,000
we're at the dawn of the super
conferences and my first thing

586
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:14,900
was it was a little bit of shock
to say a that is a long travel.

587
00:35:14,900 --> 00:35:20,000
That is two teams who were used
to nice weather football going

588
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,600
to pay places.
Basically.

589
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,400
After mid-october, there is no
nice weather football.

590
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,200
No anywhere in the Big Ten
anywhere.

591
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,500
So that sort of, you know,
little shocked but it's like,

592
00:35:33,500 --> 00:35:37,900
now you have you look at the SEC
and you look at the Big Ten

593
00:35:37,900 --> 00:35:43,500
there at 16, There are 16, the
SEC roughly stretches from the

594
00:35:43,500 --> 00:35:46,900
coast of South Carolina into the
plains of Oklahoma.

595
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,800
And now the Big Ten is
stretching literally from New

596
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:55,200
York to LA.
And, you know, we sit here and

597
00:35:55,300 --> 00:35:58,500
the question is, how much more
movements coming a, how much

598
00:35:58,500 --> 00:36:02,200
more movement is coming?
Because I think the one reason

599
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:07,400
this move was made was because
the pac-10 or Pac-12.

600
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:11,500
Meteorites, are up and basically
2023.

601
00:36:11,700 --> 00:36:14,300
And obviously, there's an ounce
if they're going to the table

602
00:36:14,300 --> 00:36:18,700
and are trying to negotiate a
deal, but how much more movement

603
00:36:18,700 --> 00:36:22,400
could we see now there are
reports that the Big Ten doesn't

604
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,700
want you dubber organ.
And the Big 12 trying to

605
00:36:25,700 --> 00:36:29,400
convince PAC 12 teams to come
the acc's not saying today.

606
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,300
Damn word, which scares the shit
out of me.

607
00:36:31,300 --> 00:36:33,500
You have tech fans left and
right screaming.

608
00:36:33,500 --> 00:36:38,000
We need to bleep and get on it
with Bayonne calls, don't fuck

609
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,100
us.
Yeah, and and all of that is

610
00:36:41,100 --> 00:36:42,400
right, right?
Like right now.

611
00:36:42,500 --> 00:36:47,500
No one knows where we're heading
and if I'm if I'm Wit Babcock,

612
00:36:47,500 --> 00:36:50,800
I'm I'm game.
Thering the shit out of this

613
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,900
thing.
Yes, I'm calling the Big Ten.

614
00:36:54,900 --> 00:37:00,200
I'm calling the SEC but I'm also
calling the ACC E office and get

615
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:05,400
on the horn with Phyllis time
saying, you need to add some

616
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:10,200
teams and get get us.
Some better meteorites on this

617
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,400
deal.
So, we have a little bit more

618
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,200
firewall if this is going to
carry forward, but I'm

619
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:19,100
definitely hedging.
I'm definitely seeing if the ACC

620
00:37:19,100 --> 00:37:22,000
ends up, getting blown up.
If we start getting poached, you

621
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,400
know, two three big teams on the
front end.

622
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:30,000
I mean that that's I'm looking
to get out at that point.

623
00:37:30,500 --> 00:37:33,800
Yeah, if you're losing, if
you're losing Miami, you're

624
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,800
losing FSU, you're losing
Clemson, you're losing the UNC?

625
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:42,000
You need to go ahead and have a
plan in place because you don't

626
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,900
want to be that, you know, the
guy holding the bag at the end.

627
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,400
Know you don't.
Now, luckily for Tech in this

628
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:55,300
sense is, you know, we do have a
big footprint.

629
00:37:55,300 --> 00:37:59,600
It in some major media markets,
I don't I don't give a shit.

630
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,900
What the media says?
Well Maryland's a no Northern

631
00:38:02,900 --> 00:38:07,800
Virginia DC in the southern part
of Maryland is not Maryland

632
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,700
country.
The TV sets, you can turn it on

633
00:38:10,700 --> 00:38:14,800
and see, Marilyn ain't no more
fucking body watching, Maryland

634
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:19,900
football up there.
So for me, that's baby state.

635
00:38:22,100 --> 00:38:24,700
For me though, if you're the SEC
and you want to get into a top

636
00:38:24,700 --> 00:38:30,300
10 Market, where your best bet
they're a, if you take a look at

637
00:38:30,300 --> 00:38:34,300
the long-term history of the
football program, you feel it's

638
00:38:34,300 --> 00:38:36,600
going to be competitive, you
know, we show up for games,

639
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:40,000
we're not going to be, you're
not showing us on ESPN on a

640
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,100
Saturday night and it's, you
know, a half full Stadium.

641
00:38:43,100 --> 00:38:47,100
That's not gonna happen.
So we have some things going for

642
00:38:47,100 --> 00:38:48,700
us.
It's also that value.

643
00:38:48,700 --> 00:38:52,300
Which are buddy.
Dr. Jeremy Let's put up the day

644
00:38:52,300 --> 00:38:55,100
which I think shocked me and you
talking about this is a little

645
00:38:55,300 --> 00:38:59,400
few years older but Tech
essentially athletic department

646
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,800
being at valued at two hundred
eighty million dollars.

647
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,400
Which I think as being you look
kind of shocked that we're ahead

648
00:39:05,500 --> 00:39:07,700
of some people.
We did not expect to be ahead of

649
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,700
ya and I think that's, you know,
our brand is taking a little bit

650
00:39:12,700 --> 00:39:14,100
of a hit since those numbers
came out.

651
00:39:14,100 --> 00:39:18,300
So it's probably not 100%
indicative but it's also not

652
00:39:18,300 --> 00:39:22,600
fall off the map either know.
You know, that had us number

653
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,800
three in the conference.
In terms of valuation, I

654
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,600
wouldn't put us any lower than
probably five since then.

655
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:35,200
Yeah, you know, maybe a year,
UNC jumps us, maybe he wasn't

656
00:39:35,700 --> 00:39:37,900
was right.
Who was the weather with right?

657
00:39:37,900 --> 00:39:39,700
Right below.
Us, was it Louisville?

658
00:39:41,300 --> 00:39:42,100
Hold on.
Let me get that.

659
00:39:42,100 --> 00:39:44,300
I remember who it was UNC.
Would have.

660
00:39:44,300 --> 00:39:46,200
Had to make up 120 million
dollars?

661
00:39:46,300 --> 00:39:50,500
Yeah, I knew they were pretty
and let's be honest, I mean, in

662
00:39:50,500 --> 00:39:55,100
terms of Revenue, Jordan brand
and basketball is where their

663
00:39:55,100 --> 00:39:58,000
valuation is.
They don't really have a brand

664
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:02,200
in football.
So if we're talking football, I

665
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,400
mean UNC is UNC.
They've got they've got the

666
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,000
Jordan brand, they've got
basketball.

667
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,600
They've got their a you status.
That's going to help them in a

668
00:40:09,607 --> 00:40:13,400
Big Ten type negotiation but I
don't think they really carry

669
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:17,200
enough weight in terms of
negotiation with the SEC.

670
00:40:17,500 --> 00:40:21,900
Especially since when you get a
Virginia Tech because of where

671
00:40:21,900 --> 00:40:26,800
the alumni are, you're getting
that that Nova, you're getting

672
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:31,600
80 for and 757 but you're also
getting A lot in the RDU area,

673
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,300
you get a lot in the Charlotte
area.

674
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,500
We talked about it earlier,
getting a lot in the Atlanta

675
00:40:35,500 --> 00:40:39,300
area.
So we've got a presence pretty

676
00:40:39,300 --> 00:40:42,300
much up down.
We talked about it wherever the

677
00:40:42,300 --> 00:40:45,400
Robbie throughout the 40
Corridor throughout the 85

678
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:49,300
Corridor.
Well, you know, up 95 towards

679
00:40:49,500 --> 00:40:53,900
the DC area, it's really, we've
got that type of presence and we

680
00:40:53,900 --> 00:40:57,300
got that type of brand and
travel that I think is going to

681
00:40:57,300 --> 00:41:00,800
help us long term, especially if
we're talking as You see versus

682
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:04,600
Big Ten, the third place team
back in.

683
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:08,600
When that thing was come out, it
was Georgia Tech at 215 million,

684
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:10,100
okay?
Okay.

685
00:41:10,300 --> 00:41:13,500
And they probably probably
suffered some hits since then as

686
00:41:13,500 --> 00:41:18,400
well, Dave, definitely suffered
some head since then a couple of

687
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:22,300
the ones we were like ahead of
that kind of, you know, shocked

688
00:41:22,300 --> 00:41:24,900
me a little like, Kentucky being
in the SEC.

689
00:41:25,500 --> 00:41:29,300
Having a superior, you know, an
Elite basketball program being

690
00:41:29,300 --> 00:41:31,600
above Them.
Especially, since Stoops has

691
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,500
been there, really elevating
their football program that kind

692
00:41:34,500 --> 00:41:38,900
of shocked me a little bit but
let's let's let's flip a little

693
00:41:38,900 --> 00:41:39,600
bit here.
Brian.

694
00:41:40,900 --> 00:41:42,700
Can we say who's really driving
this?

695
00:41:43,700 --> 00:41:46,500
Who's really driving?
Why these moves are being made,

696
00:41:47,300 --> 00:41:50,400
because I really don't think
Greg Sankey or Kevin up in the

697
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,200
Big Ten or the guys driving
this.

698
00:41:52,900 --> 00:41:56,800
It's ESPN and Disney and it's
Fox TV Executives.

699
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:01,700
Now, they are driving this
because they're pretty, they're

700
00:42:01,700 --> 00:42:03,900
presenting.
Here's here's what could happen.

701
00:42:04,100 --> 00:42:08,300
If you, if you scoop up these
two markets here's what can

702
00:42:08,300 --> 00:42:11,600
happen for you and then that's
presented and then that's

703
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:16,000
driving, everything else.
Well, but but what did I say to

704
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,800
you?
Earlier on, if you take USC out

705
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,900
of the Pac-12, their
negotiations on their next TV

706
00:42:22,900 --> 00:42:26,100
dealer going to be significantly
lower depth are going to be

707
00:42:26,100 --> 00:42:27,600
higher than what they were 11
years ago.

708
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,100
But they're not going to be
astronomically higher because

709
00:42:30,100 --> 00:42:35,300
you took the biggest brand.
Fox and ESPN benefit off that

710
00:42:35,500 --> 00:42:39,300
and fox and ESPN, and also
benefit off of.

711
00:42:39,500 --> 00:42:42,500
Yeah, you're adding USC, but
we're already given you guys

712
00:42:42,500 --> 00:42:46,000
close to 50 million of Team.
It might be worth, you know, an

713
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:50,900
extra three or four million.
It's not worth an extra x amount

714
00:42:50,900 --> 00:42:53,000
of dollars.
It would be out if the Pac-12

715
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:54,800
had them.
Yeah.

716
00:42:54,900 --> 00:42:57,200
Yeah.
They're coming out better on

717
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,400
their end in terms of net
between the two TV deals.

718
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:01,700
Yes.
Yeah.

719
00:43:01,700 --> 00:43:06,300
And you know you get a
conference that gets into

720
00:43:06,300 --> 00:43:08,300
another Market.
Just happens to be one of the

721
00:43:08,300 --> 00:43:11,900
largest markets in the country.
They are already in.

722
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,900
You just get to absorb it into
your biggest contract instead of

723
00:43:15,900 --> 00:43:19,400
having to pay another
substantial contract, that's

724
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,000
where my mind is, even the
Texas.

725
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:25,700
Can Oklahoma thing that was
ESPN's absorbing this into their

726
00:43:25,700 --> 00:43:28,700
biggest contract.
Yeah.

727
00:43:28,900 --> 00:43:31,300
And you can say oh Texas can
Oklahoma move the needle?

728
00:43:31,300 --> 00:43:33,900
Know they move the needle for
the Big 12 they do.

729
00:43:33,900 --> 00:43:35,700
It's not going to.
It's not going to bother this.

730
00:43:35,900 --> 00:43:38,700
It's not going to get the same
type of bump in the SEC.

731
00:43:38,700 --> 00:43:43,800
Exactly the same type of bump in
the big tent know, so whatever.

732
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,800
They're bumping up on the SEC
and Big 10 deals, it's getting

733
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:52,700
dropped off on the other side.
So exactly, it's just not,

734
00:43:52,700 --> 00:43:55,100
they're making more money off of
it and that's where you can

735
00:43:55,100 --> 00:43:59,800
really see it driving now
because the In is, if the pac-10

736
00:43:59,900 --> 00:44:03,600
of the Pac-12.
They go ESPN's consolidating

737
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:04,100
debt.
Yep.

738
00:44:04,100 --> 00:44:05,300
That's exactly what they're
doing.

739
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,800
But if they keep these two
conferences alive which now

740
00:44:10,100 --> 00:44:14,100
that's going to be a thing for
ESPN to play because content is

741
00:44:14,100 --> 00:44:17,400
what drives them right.
If they screw up and kill a

742
00:44:17,408 --> 00:44:21,900
conference, they're sort of
killing themselves and people

743
00:44:21,900 --> 00:44:27,600
say well they have the big ones
but you're still Killing Revenue

744
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,500
in some way because and now at
this point or that were they

745
00:44:31,500 --> 00:44:37,000
saying we've built such a
monster where we can't show all

746
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,900
the games we want to show, but
now they are potentially

747
00:44:40,900 --> 00:44:44,800
diluting.
What product is left because

748
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,500
they might kill a conference and
then those games matter less.

749
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:52,700
So you know, it's definitely a
risky move but I, you know, I

750
00:44:52,700 --> 00:44:55,800
think long term it's going to
probably be Find for them

751
00:44:55,800 --> 00:45:00,900
because I don't think I think
there's there's another in game

752
00:45:00,900 --> 00:45:03,000
that the conference's are
playing with this.

753
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:05,700
That we'll talk about here in a
little bit.

754
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,200
Yeah, big in games.
Now, it came out today, the

755
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:16,100
loose agreement between and bron
bron allow Brian titling.

756
00:45:16,100 --> 00:45:18,900
This episode loose agreement,
the loose agreement between

757
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,200
discussion between the Pac-12
and the ACC.

758
00:45:24,700 --> 00:45:30,000
If you're the Pac-12 and if
you're the ACC, do you almost

759
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:34,800
just say effort.
Let's let you know, use your

760
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,400
brains would be as follows this
would be your top 10 brands and

761
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,100
this isn't to me, this is not a
bad look.

762
00:45:41,300 --> 00:45:48,400
Virginia Tech, Clemson, Florida
State, Miami Oregon, u-dub,

763
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:53,100
Stanford, Arizona, State, and
I'm going to give you tall

764
00:45:53,100 --> 00:45:55,700
because Utah's what they've done
the last five years, going

765
00:45:55,700 --> 00:45:57,600
through a Rose Bowl.
Yeah.

766
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,200
That mean they've had they've
had waves before too so that

767
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:04,200
they're not exactly a you know a
brand that nobody knows about

768
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:10,900
but could those 10 teams carry a
28 2014.

769
00:46:11,100 --> 00:46:16,400
Conference Jesus Christ.
Could that carry could you just

770
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,800
say we're merging, we're going
to have an east and west.

771
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:21,100
We're gonna have a championship
game.

772
00:46:21,100 --> 00:46:22,600
We're going to have some crumbs,
we're going to have some

773
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:27,000
cross-country rivalries.
Could it I'll say this the Bold

774
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,100
stroke of fully combining his no
dumber than this loose

775
00:46:30,100 --> 00:46:32,500
partnership idea playing a
championship game.

776
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:37,600
So I mean if you're going to go
all in go the fuck all in and

777
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:44,500
make it so a it's harder for
these teams individually to back

778
00:46:44,500 --> 00:46:48,000
out for some for greener
pastures and number to get your

779
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,400
media deal in place where Are
you have that Juggernaut in

780
00:46:51,408 --> 00:46:52,300
place?
Right?

781
00:46:52,300 --> 00:46:56,300
Because right now what the SEC
and what the Big Ten have that,

782
00:46:56,300 --> 00:47:01,000
no other conference has is clout
and firewalls.

783
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,100
Yeah, they're not they're not
going to get poached because of

784
00:47:05,107 --> 00:47:07,600
their clout and because of the
firewalls that they have in

785
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:11,300
place and that's why when we
talked last year, about the Big

786
00:47:11,300 --> 00:47:18,700
Ten and the ACC and the Pac-12,
you know, look them in the eye

787
00:47:18,700 --> 00:47:20,700
deal.
Whatever the hell that shit was

788
00:47:20,700 --> 00:47:26,700
I'm telling you got to you got
to know that the big Tim has the

789
00:47:26,700 --> 00:47:29,300
leverage in all of this shit
like you're making the most

790
00:47:29,300 --> 00:47:32,600
money if you're not, if you're
not putting something In writing

791
00:47:33,300 --> 00:47:36,100
ACC and Pac-12 about to get
fucked and what happened?

792
00:47:36,100 --> 00:47:39,900
They got fucked.
Yeah that they they they've been

793
00:47:39,900 --> 00:47:43,400
put on alert and now somebody's
got to do something.

794
00:47:43,500 --> 00:47:47,000
So either either you're going to
slowly watch your conference

795
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:52,800
crumble true or going to get
around the yeah, there's going

796
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,700
to be a loophole in the in the
grant of rights at some point.

797
00:47:55,700 --> 00:47:59,600
The grant of rights firewall is
going to get busted or the eight

798
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:04,600
or the, or the SEC or the Big
Ten Or just going to say, Screw

799
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:08,800
will for the next five years.
We'll just eat the 70 million

800
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:14,000
and they and and schools that
already have the money to do

801
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,200
some of this stuff.
They know long term.

802
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,000
They're going to come out better
so they might whether two or

803
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,700
three years of short-term pain.
Well I'm looking at FSU in

804
00:48:22,700 --> 00:48:26,800
particular Well, because FS you
can probably handle it.

805
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,200
FSU.
Well, I'm going to, I'm going to

806
00:48:30,207 --> 00:48:32,800
say this if you want me to be
straight up with you.

807
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:38,800
I mean this is also a move
especially the Virginia Tech

808
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:44,700
were to go to the Big Ten.
This would be a move for, not

809
00:48:44,700 --> 00:48:48,600
only Athletics but academics.
So the question is, would

810
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:54,300
someone like Tim sayings?
Be willing to go out there and

811
00:48:54,300 --> 00:48:59,100
say you know, we're going to do
this move with it.

812
00:48:59,900 --> 00:49:03,300
And what we're going to do is we
have an endowment, right?

813
00:49:04,500 --> 00:49:06,400
How much you think to Virginia
Tech endowment is?

814
00:49:08,100 --> 00:49:11,000
I do not know you might look too
close.

815
00:49:11,100 --> 00:49:15,700
It's almost okay, Billy.
He might just say, we're just

816
00:49:15,700 --> 00:49:17,800
screw the grants of, right?
We're going to, we're going to

817
00:49:17,808 --> 00:49:21,400
take care of ourselves because
we're looking at this as a, not

818
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:25,100
only a athletic move, but this
is a massive move for our

819
00:49:25,100 --> 00:49:29,600
research University.
To be partnered with the Big Ten

820
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,700
school, right?
Yeah.

821
00:49:33,100 --> 00:49:36,300
And the question is, how close
are we to that AAU membership

822
00:49:36,300 --> 00:49:40,500
threshold?
You know, it's mostly based on

823
00:49:40,500 --> 00:49:45,000
the research side of things,
it's hard to get that threshold

824
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:51,400
without a fully-fledged.
Medical school, it's hard to.

825
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,800
It's hard to get there just
because of how much research is

826
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:58,400
done on that side of the the
aisle but it's definitely

827
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,500
possible.
There are several schools

828
00:50:01,300 --> 00:50:04,000
Georgia Tech for One.
They don't have a medical school

829
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:09,100
that that are a you schools, but
again, that threshold is much

830
00:50:09,100 --> 00:50:13,600
harder to meet without that.
That element how close we are.

831
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:17,500
I could say, I know that was a
goal of sayings when he took

832
00:50:17,500 --> 00:50:23,100
over was to get, Virginia Tech
to AA you status, but we're not

833
00:50:23,100 --> 00:50:26,000
there and I don't know how close
we are and I don't know if we've

834
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:29,800
got enough time to get there
before more of these dominoes

835
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:33,600
start to fall.
So, that will be, you know, some

836
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:39,100
of, the more interesting things.
We've already mentioned the

837
00:50:39,100 --> 00:50:42,100
firewall, the ACC does have the
best, but I think eventually

838
00:50:42,100 --> 00:50:45,800
people get around it and or
universities will just say we're

839
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:49,100
going to eat it because long
term, it's going to work for us.

840
00:50:49,100 --> 00:50:52,700
Yeah, of the other three
conferences that are potentially

841
00:50:52,700 --> 00:50:54,900
getting poached ACC as the best
firewall.

842
00:50:54,900 --> 00:51:00,900
But they also have the one that
probably should get wrote.

843
00:51:00,900 --> 00:51:07,800
Somebody Yeah, exactly exactly.
And you know packed will

844
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:11,600
probably the most poachable
because right now they've got a

845
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:17,600
expiring, meteorites deal.
So somewhere in the middle there

846
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:22,200
is the Big 12 Yeah.
Well the Big 12 had their big

847
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,200
two coached I don't think
anybody's poaching.

848
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:28,400
Anybody out of the V12 yet.
Not unless we're going unless

849
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:32,400
they're going to 24.
Alright, let's end it with this

850
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,200
because we've already talked
about what could happen to the

851
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:38,400
ACC.
Do you think the Hokies are safe

852
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:47,700
one way or the other?
I don't feel 100% safe just

853
00:51:47,700 --> 00:51:52,700
because I'm not sure if we're in
a position where we're going to

854
00:51:52,700 --> 00:51:57,000
dictate the terms and be as
proactive as we need to be to

855
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,600
get this done.
That's my concern.

856
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:02,300
I'm not saying that with isn't
capable, I'm saying, I don't

857
00:52:02,300 --> 00:52:05,600
know if you know, I think
Whitney knows what needs.

858
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,300
What needs to happen.
I don't know if he can get us

859
00:52:08,300 --> 00:52:12,200
there.
We'll see because there's a lot

860
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:15,100
of moving Parts here.
And I think he Ands that but I

861
00:52:15,100 --> 00:52:19,200
don't know if it comes down to
the ACC isn't taking the steps

862
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:23,400
we need to if he's going to push
hard enough for that SEC offer.

863
00:52:24,100 --> 00:52:27,400
Yeah and I don't know if sayings
is going to come off the money

864
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,400
to take that.
If granted right of Rights is

865
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,700
still in place.
So there's still those pieces in

866
00:52:32,700 --> 00:52:35,800
place that you know potentially
could hamstring.

867
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:42,200
I moved to the SEC and yeah, the
fear is and I think long-term

868
00:52:43,700 --> 00:52:48,200
What's gonna devalue?
Virginia Tech's brand more is

869
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:53,600
not going to the SEC and having
you know, a few years where

870
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,300
we're only winning 45 games,
what's going to devalue?

871
00:52:56,300 --> 00:52:59,100
Virginia Tech's brand is playing
football.

872
00:52:59,100 --> 00:53:03,000
That doesn't fucking matter.
So, we better not be in a

873
00:53:03,008 --> 00:53:04,700
situation where you get left
behind.

874
00:53:05,700 --> 00:53:09,100
That's the big piece.
It's the the getting left behind

875
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:15,800
and that's where in this
situation again, if if, if the

876
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,600
acc's not trying to push
buttons, trying to push hard to

877
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:22,800
get, essentially, making itself
not Untouchable, but one of

878
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:27,800
those Conferences.
Where you can't look away.

879
00:53:29,100 --> 00:53:30,900
That's, that's your issue,
right?

880
00:53:31,300 --> 00:53:32,400
Yep.
You don't want to be a

881
00:53:32,408 --> 00:53:34,200
conference that you can look
away at.

882
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,800
And right now like the big 12,
think about it.

883
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:44,400
You can look away.
I don't think the Pac-12 there

884
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,700
yet because I think the organ
and govern a couple of those

885
00:53:46,700 --> 00:53:53,200
schools can still hold your.
I also luckily you know, USC and

886
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:57,000
UCLA have been just shit
programs last five years, they

887
00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:00,500
haven't been that good.
So I don't want to be in a

888
00:54:00,508 --> 00:54:03,300
situation where our biggest
matchups of the year or Wake

889
00:54:03,300 --> 00:54:05,400
Forest in Boston, College and
maybe pain.

890
00:54:06,300 --> 00:54:08,600
Oh no, that I don't want to be
in that situation.

891
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:15,700
That's not what I, that's not
worth the price of admission, if

892
00:54:15,700 --> 00:54:18,700
we're not playing.
Number one games, that matter

893
00:54:18,700 --> 00:54:23,000
against Regional opponents,
consistently, I don't want it.

894
00:54:23,500 --> 00:54:30,200
If we're not playing for a
conference Championship, that

895
00:54:30,700 --> 00:54:33,400
gives us the opportunity to make
the college football playoff.

896
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:37,500
I don't want it, I don't want
conference games against ODU and

897
00:54:37,500 --> 00:54:40,100
Liberty and Potentially down the
road.

898
00:54:40,100 --> 00:54:41,700
J mu.
I don't want that.

899
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:46,000
Virginia Tech needs to play
major.

900
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:50,000
College football, Virginia, Tech
needs to play.

901
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:54,400
Basically what we've dealt our
whole entire fandom, starting in

902
00:54:54,408 --> 00:55:01,800
the early 1990s.
Big Time games all year long and

903
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:05,400
they have to make that decision
right now between what Babcock

904
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,900
sayings.
And even Jim Phillips of how are

905
00:55:07,908 --> 00:55:09,500
you going to keep this thing
going?

906
00:55:09,700 --> 00:55:13,000
And if you're Virginia Tech in
the ACC is not moving, or

907
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,400
they're moving at a slow pace,
you just say screw it.

908
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,600
All right?
Well before we get into looking

909
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,600
at the future ACC schedule,
which might not be the future

910
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:26,600
ACC schedule and are going to
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919
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:54,700
episode.
All right so before we actually

920
00:55:54,700 --> 00:55:59,400
hit the Schedule that was
released which we've got our own

921
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,600
feelings about there was an
announcement.

922
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:05,300
ACC headquarters is moving from
Greensboro to Charlotte, they've

923
00:56:05,300 --> 00:56:09,300
committed 15 million bucks.
Let's just keep it in,

924
00:56:09,300 --> 00:56:12,300
Greensboro and commit the 15
million dollars to actually grow

925
00:56:12,300 --> 00:56:15,500
in a conference and making sure
you're alive in five years.

926
00:56:17,700 --> 00:56:19,700
Yeah, the hot, the hindsight of
that.

927
00:56:19,700 --> 00:56:22,500
That move definitely is bad
optics for sure.

928
00:56:23,100 --> 00:56:25,600
Well the only upside is now
you're at least have a major

929
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:26,600
Hub.
You can fly.

930
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,300
Hi in and out of your trying to
get these deals done.

931
00:56:29,700 --> 00:56:31,700
There's your upside right there.
All right.

932
00:56:31,700 --> 00:56:36,300
So Brian the big change and have
been discussed and finally goes

933
00:56:36,300 --> 00:56:40,800
through.
The ACC goes starting in 2023.

934
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:47,700
So they really quick turnaround
to a division 'less ACC.

935
00:56:47,900 --> 00:56:50,400
There is no definite Landing,
there's no more Coastal.

936
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:57,200
Praise the lord.
We got rid of coastal.

937
00:56:58,100 --> 00:57:04,400
Rest in peace Coastal chaos that
at that after that's after

938
00:57:05,100 --> 00:57:08,000
January or after dutremble yeah.
Sorry.

939
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:11,100
We're having we're having an
early ready to send off party

940
00:57:11,100 --> 00:57:14,700
for the coastal chaos.
We are currently in the wake of

941
00:57:14,700 --> 00:57:17,800
coastal chaos.
With so but yeah, Coast.

942
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:21,300
Okay up this year.
But you know the Visions are

943
00:57:21,300 --> 00:57:24,900
gone which is great.
And essentially the top two

944
00:57:24,900 --> 00:57:28,700
teams are going to play for the
title which you've got to love

945
00:57:28,700 --> 00:57:32,200
because if you can remember,
everybody put your hats on.

946
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,900
If you can remember back in the
early part of the ACC when

947
00:57:34,900 --> 00:57:37,300
Virginia Tech came on.
There Will several years

948
00:57:37,300 --> 00:57:39,900
Virginia Tech was legitimately
the second best team in the

949
00:57:39,900 --> 00:57:42,900
conference, but we didn't win
the coastal so we didn't get to

950
00:57:42,900 --> 00:57:44,400
go play in the championship
game.

951
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:49,200
In the same way, in both couple
years where like Miami was the

952
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:52,500
second best, but we beat them,
and we got to go.

953
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:56,300
So I like that, just in general
because you're likely going to

954
00:57:56,300 --> 00:58:00,200
get, you know, either a an
unbeaten, a one loss.

955
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:04,900
And at worst a to Lost team in
the championship game, which is

956
00:58:05,100 --> 00:58:08,400
a pleasurable.
Hopefully, the Hokies are there

957
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:11,600
a lot pleasurable thing to
happen.

958
00:58:13,100 --> 00:58:15,800
Yeah, I mean I like this better.
You get, you get the two best.

959
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:18,800
I think that's important.
As you said we've had several

960
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:23,700
years, especially early in the
first, you know, seven to ten

961
00:58:23,700 --> 00:58:27,300
years at the Hokies were in the,
in the conference where, you

962
00:58:27,300 --> 00:58:29,400
know, we were the, we were the
second best team in the

963
00:58:29,408 --> 00:58:32,200
conference and sometimes didn't
play for the championship.

964
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:38,400
A lot of times, it takes that
imbalance of the, of the

965
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:43,500
divisions out of play.
So I'm looking forward to that

966
00:58:43,500 --> 00:58:46,700
aspect of it.
The matchups.

967
00:58:47,900 --> 00:58:50,500
There were some when there was
some winds and some losses with

968
00:58:50,500 --> 00:58:54,300
it with those matchups though.
Well, let's talk about the big

969
00:58:54,300 --> 00:58:57,000
win.
The big win is literally every

970
00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:01,000
four years, you're going to play
every team home in a way that

971
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:06,500
every four years.
So that means every basically,

972
00:59:06,500 --> 00:59:09,500
every other year were either
getting Florida State, Clemson

973
00:59:09,500 --> 00:59:13,000
or Miami at home.
Or Louisville at home, obviously

974
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:19,300
UVA every other year that's the
big benefit because we had not

975
00:59:19,300 --> 00:59:22,600
played Clemson.
We haven't been to Death Valley

976
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:26,600
since 06 or 07, was it, 07 the
year?

977
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:30,000
Just we scored like nine
different ways and they're still

978
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,000
trying to figure out what
happened.

979
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:33,000
They're still running down the
hill.

980
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:36,500
The wrong way?
Yeah, we only played them at

981
00:59:36,500 --> 00:59:38,200
home.
What once?

982
00:59:39,500 --> 00:59:43,800
Twice twice.
I don't think I think twice 11

983
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:48,500
and 17 or 16.
That sounds right now.

984
00:59:50,300 --> 00:59:56,100
Every other year Florida State
similar, And what does that do?

985
00:59:56,100 --> 01:00:00,900
Well for the ACC that gives you
your Prime Brands playing each

986
01:00:00,900 --> 01:00:03,800
other all the time.
Every year you get to Circle

987
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:08,100
matchups for Virginia Tech fans.
It's every year there is going

988
01:00:08,100 --> 01:00:14,700
to be a massive, massive gain on
campus Which that's, I mean,

989
01:00:14,700 --> 01:00:18,500
that in itself is a big deal
because it's really going to be

990
01:00:18,500 --> 01:00:21,800
a sellout, which, you know, for
years.

991
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:27,000
It was, but you're going to have
more eyes on Virginia Tech than

992
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:31,400
a normal week, because let's be
honest, playing, not knocking,

993
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:33,900
but playing Georgia.
Tech the first weekend in

994
01:00:33,900 --> 01:00:36,500
October at home versus playing
Florida.

995
01:00:36,500 --> 01:00:38,300
State is a hell of a lot of
difference.

996
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,700
Yeah, absolutely.
Absolutely.

997
01:00:43,700 --> 01:00:46,500
But I'm looking forward to some
of these, especially getting

998
01:00:46,900 --> 01:00:49,100
getting to see teams every other
year.

999
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:53,600
That's big.
That's big because that that,

1000
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:56,100
that hammers home, you know, the
whole, the market play that

1001
01:00:56,100 --> 01:00:59,600
we're talking about when you
have divisions, a lot of times,

1002
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:02,500
you know, you when you try to
recruit within that footprint.

1003
01:01:03,500 --> 01:01:04,500
Yeah.
Okay.

1004
01:01:04,500 --> 01:01:06,400
They're on our schedule with
their, on our schedule.

1005
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:12,700
Maybe sometimes once in a in a
recruit's entire time on campus.

1006
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:17,300
Like, yeah, that make that make
some of that a little bit

1007
01:01:17,300 --> 01:01:20,900
difficult, especially for those,
those cross division opponents,

1008
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:24,800
whether it be Clemson.
I know Louisville, we had a big

1009
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:29,400
span where we didn't play them.
And they still haven't come to

1010
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:32,800
Blacksburg, have they?
I don't think so.

1011
01:01:33,100 --> 01:01:36,800
They're back on coded year, but
they have not come to Blacksburg

1012
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:40,300
and Syracuse first time coming
to Blacksburg was back in 21.

1013
01:01:41,100 --> 01:01:44,200
Yeah, I mean, that's asinine,
that's asinine and that goes

1014
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:45,200
away.
Thank God.

1015
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:48,800
But let's go to the one.
Everybody wants to talk about

1016
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:57,300
the Lock 3, the lock, you know,
block 3 and I think we all

1017
01:01:57,300 --> 01:02:01,200
anticipated UVA.
I think we all did.

1018
01:02:01,500 --> 01:02:03,000
We knew?
We were getting UVA.

1019
01:02:03,100 --> 01:02:06,100
We thought we were getting
someone else that we didn't get

1020
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:09,900
and thankfully we didn't get
somebody that we thought we

1021
01:02:09,900 --> 01:02:14,600
might get, we didn't get Miami,
instead we get pit.

1022
01:02:15,900 --> 01:02:20,500
Um-hmm.
And then instead of BC we got

1023
01:02:20,500 --> 01:02:24,500
wait.
So, as far as traveling for your

1024
01:02:24,500 --> 01:02:28,000
every three-year game, you don't
have to travel that far.

1025
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:30,600
But let me press this question
to you, Brian.

1026
01:02:31,100 --> 01:02:35,100
Do you think that we stood on
the table so hard that we're not

1027
01:02:35,100 --> 01:02:37,700
playing BC every year anymore?
They jerk.

1028
01:02:37,700 --> 01:02:40,600
Miami away from us.
Like, I don't, I think that was

1029
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:43,000
the devil's bargain.
I think, I think we said we're

1030
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:46,000
not playing BC every year and
they said, all right, you're not

1031
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:48,100
getting Miami.
Okay, hold on.

1032
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:51,500
Or did the person at the ACC
office?

1033
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:55,000
Go on a bender in, screw up,
Louisville and hours.

1034
01:02:55,100 --> 01:02:59,300
Because if you look at theirs I
mean that's yeah.

1035
01:02:59,300 --> 01:03:02,700
GT Miami UVA?
Yeah, I mean that does sound

1036
01:03:02,700 --> 01:03:09,300
like slightly more more VT
aligned than then what we got.

1037
01:03:09,300 --> 01:03:14,900
I mean you know you get You get
your, you get your home state

1038
01:03:14,900 --> 01:03:17,400
route with what we got to get
your home state rival.

1039
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:22,500
You technically get your closest
ACC opponent and then you get a

1040
01:03:22,500 --> 01:03:27,200
former Big East opponent on it
and then you'd so.

1041
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:31,300
And then and the closest, former
Big East opponent, you get, and

1042
01:03:31,300 --> 01:03:34,700
you get for a time there in the
early 2000s, miss you thousands

1043
01:03:34,700 --> 01:03:41,000
probably one of the better ACC
One of the better ACC rivalries

1044
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:44,800
was the tech tech rivalry really
from the early 2000s.

1045
01:03:45,500 --> 01:03:47,800
You're okay with it, but wake
should be Miami.

1046
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:51,800
Listen, everybody had to lay on
the sword somewhere.

1047
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:55,600
The other.
Well, maybe with the yeah, you

1048
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:58,100
know.
But for Florida State got this

1049
01:03:58,100 --> 01:04:02,500
one in there.
We're getting there.

1050
01:04:03,700 --> 01:04:07,100
Controversial opinion, that some
people would at you hard.

1051
01:04:07,100 --> 01:04:10,400
When you basically said, And say
it.

1052
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:16,300
If it took losing Miami to get
BC off our every year schedule,

1053
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:18,600
it was worth.
So be it.

1054
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:22,100
We will still play.
Be who will still playing Miami

1055
01:04:22,100 --> 01:04:25,400
2 out of every four and I'll
tell you why I'll tell you why.

1056
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:29,400
So number and it's not just I
want to avoid a tougher

1057
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:34,000
opponent.
But when you, when you look at

1058
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:37,800
the games with BC, getting rid
of BC is more important because

1059
01:04:38,900 --> 01:04:43,600
be C is a zero benefit game for
Virginia Tech.

1060
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:49,100
It's a big travel game.
Whether you know, whether we're

1061
01:04:49,100 --> 01:04:52,100
going to play or they're coming
us, it's a big travel.

1062
01:04:53,700 --> 01:04:56,500
And it's a game that for
Virginia Tech.

1063
01:04:56,700 --> 01:05:00,700
If we win it, we were supposed
to, and if we lose it, we're

1064
01:05:00,700 --> 01:05:05,100
ass.
It's not a game is that same

1065
01:05:05,100 --> 01:05:09,700
with wait.
But we're not traveling seven at

1066
01:05:09,700 --> 01:05:14,400
78 hours to do that.
We're going an hour and a half

1067
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:21,600
on a bus.
Okay, but it's still a loss to a

1068
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:23,800
lesser opponent.
I mean Bond.

1069
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:27,200
And Brian says, he doesn't care
travel, but I think the other

1070
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:29,600
point we were talking about the
other thing about playing and

1071
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:33,500
wake is where you're playing in
a prime recruiting ground that

1072
01:05:33,500 --> 01:05:37,100
you can get kids from the 336
from the Charlotte area.

1073
01:05:38,100 --> 01:05:41,900
And you can get them to come to
that home game or that away

1074
01:05:41,900 --> 01:05:43,900
game, which is going to be the
honest.

1075
01:05:43,900 --> 01:05:46,300
Truth is the first away game at
wake.

1076
01:05:46,300 --> 01:05:48,800
It's going to be about 40%
maroon and orange.

1077
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:52,100
JH that we guarding use that.
That's probably I think wasted

1078
01:05:52,100 --> 01:05:55,500
on the table for us, because I
think waiting you that if they

1079
01:05:55,500 --> 01:05:58,400
could get Virginia Tech, they
would have one game.

1080
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:01,600
Every two years that they were
get full capacity, they were

1081
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:04,800
going to make a boatload of
money, all that game, because

1082
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:09,300
they knew where they're located,
a ton of hokey fans will go to

1083
01:06:09,300 --> 01:06:11,400
that game because it's going to
be reasonably priced tickets.

1084
01:06:11,700 --> 01:06:16,100
Easy to get in easy to get out.
It's the one game like when they

1085
01:06:16,100 --> 01:06:21,100
play in Sea state, It's probably
the only other consistent game

1086
01:06:21,100 --> 01:06:24,200
that they play that they can
pack the stadium like that.

1087
01:06:25,300 --> 01:06:28,000
Yeah, unless they're playing
like a ranked opponent like

1088
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:32,000
Clemson or something like that.
Yeah, 100 buddy, but in terms of

1089
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:35,000
throat, rankings at the window,
throw, whatever the current

1090
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:38,100
records are out the window,
Virginia Tech when they play

1091
01:06:38,100 --> 01:06:39,700
Wake, they're going to pack that
stadium.

1092
01:06:39,700 --> 01:06:42,100
And when NC State plays wake,
they're going to pack that state

1093
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:46,400
true.
I'm seeing Robbie put in here.

1094
01:06:46,500 --> 01:06:48,400
He'd rather have the recruiting
area and I mean we're going to

1095
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:51,700
be in Florida twice, we're going
to be in Florida every year

1096
01:06:51,700 --> 01:06:54,400
anyway, so between Florida State
and Miami.

1097
01:06:54,500 --> 01:06:57,100
So That is what it is.
They're all right.

1098
01:06:57,200 --> 01:07:01,800
So who do you think got screwed?
In this scenario.

1099
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:05,900
Florida State.
I know I talked about earlier,

1100
01:07:05,900 --> 01:07:09,900
but they got the shaft buddy,
Florida State out there, playing

1101
01:07:09,900 --> 01:07:12,600
Clemson, Miami, and having to go
to the Carrier Dome.

1102
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:14,800
Every other fucking year is
bananas.

1103
01:07:16,900 --> 01:07:19,300
I mean, is this just like a way
they're going to keep Florida

1104
01:07:19,300 --> 01:07:21,800
State down.
Like, you guys are never going

1105
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:23,700
to come back.
We're going to we're going to

1106
01:07:23,700 --> 01:07:27,700
give you pay just as just as
Miami might be back with crystal

1107
01:07:27,700 --> 01:07:32,500
ball and you get, you get that,
you get Clemson and then you get

1108
01:07:32,500 --> 01:07:34,100
to go.
The Carrier Dome every other

1109
01:07:34,100 --> 01:07:39,400
year which holy hey every one of
those ranked teams lose in the

1110
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:43,500
Carrier Dome Clemson loss in the
Carrier Dome during one of their

1111
01:07:43,500 --> 01:07:46,100
playoff run years.
Let's say we took a shit in the

1112
01:07:46,107 --> 01:07:51,500
Carrier Dome.
We can 2016 and years before

1113
01:07:51,500 --> 01:07:55,300
that that place is just terrible
to play in but you know, you

1114
01:07:55,300 --> 01:07:57,300
know, who else?
I think kind of got a little

1115
01:07:57,300 --> 01:08:02,500
shafted.
Was Miami because they Pawn

1116
01:08:02,500 --> 01:08:10,000
Boston College off on my hey,
hey you that's cool furthest

1117
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:11,400
south.
We're going to send you furthest

1118
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:18,100
North in the conference And and
same rules apply to them.

1119
01:08:18,100 --> 01:08:22,000
It's a game that they get all
that travel in and if they win

1120
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:25,100
they were supposed to and if
they lose they shit the bed.

1121
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:27,600
Best part.
Here's the best part about it.

1122
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:32,000
Miami is going to become the red
bandana game for PC, right?

1123
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:35,800
That market down right now,
Miami will become the red

1124
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:41,600
bandana game or BC every year
the so on a Friday night when

1125
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:44,800
they actually get 80% of the
stadium to turn out.

1126
01:08:45,100 --> 01:08:48,899
And the crowd is electric.
Hey, here comes my hammy in.

1127
01:08:48,899 --> 01:08:51,700
There are 14 hour flight from
South Florida.

1128
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:57,399
So, you know, I think they got
screwed just as much, but look

1129
01:08:57,399 --> 01:08:58,100
at it.
The rest.

1130
01:08:58,100 --> 01:09:00,600
The rest is pretty regionally
balanced.

1131
01:09:01,899 --> 01:09:04,000
They really took care of the
Carolina schools.

1132
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:07,600
Just, you know, I mean, North
Carolina literary.

1133
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:13,100
I'm shot there.
Well, actually do got even

1134
01:09:13,100 --> 01:09:15,200
better, dude.
Literally doesn't have Leave the

1135
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:21,600
state North Carolina's.
First trip, is up to UVA, so,

1136
01:09:22,300 --> 01:09:26,300
but overall, you look at it,
they kept, it kind of regional,

1137
01:09:26,300 --> 01:09:28,399
they kept the northern teams all
together.

1138
01:09:28,899 --> 01:09:33,399
And as much as we want to get
upset, Braun, you know, I don't

1139
01:09:33,399 --> 01:09:35,700
think anybody else got truly
screwed.

1140
01:09:35,700 --> 01:09:36,600
It's either.
OK.

1141
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:38,500
Or best like, it's us.
It's a push.

1142
01:09:41,399 --> 01:09:46,500
Oh man.
But Do you feel like anybody got

1143
01:09:46,500 --> 01:09:50,100
truly rewarded?
Like hey, here you go.

1144
01:09:52,300 --> 01:09:55,500
I mean, maybe Duke is really the
only one who can really say just

1145
01:09:55,500 --> 01:09:59,500
because they are sticking 100%
in state, with their, it's Duke,

1146
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:02,300
but it's Duke.
I mean, I don't know if that's

1147
01:10:02,300 --> 01:10:09,700
going to really, really matter.
I think BBC kind of got fucked a

1148
01:10:09,708 --> 01:10:12,600
little bit of as well for for
talking about another third, if

1149
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:16,900
you want to put in there with
Miami Pitt and Syracuse that's

1150
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:20,100
its regionally.
Okay with them other than Miami

1151
01:10:20,100 --> 01:10:24,700
but it's still, that's a bad
draw for a middle-of-the-road.

1152
01:10:24,700 --> 01:10:30,000
ACC team.
You're supposed to beat

1153
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:32,100
Syracuse.
When you go to the Carrier Dome,

1154
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:34,700
we supposed to compete with pit
and lose to Miami.

1155
01:10:35,300 --> 01:10:37,500
Yep.
In Reality is they're going to

1156
01:10:37,508 --> 01:10:40,700
probably lose more than a few
games in the Carrier Dome there.

1157
01:10:40,700 --> 01:10:42,400
Lose one of the few in the
Carrier Dome and they're

1158
01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:46,000
probably going to lose most of
those to Miami.

1159
01:10:46,900 --> 01:10:50,100
So yeah.
So I mean you could make the

1160
01:10:50,100 --> 01:10:57,900
argument that Maybe UNC got
favorable because they got Duke

1161
01:10:57,900 --> 01:11:07,300
instead of wait and you know,
they'll get there, they got the

1162
01:11:07,300 --> 01:11:09,500
whole thing is, how many times
did they played State?

1163
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:13,400
It's like they played State.
It's so few is so fuse

1164
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:16,200
considering how close they are,
how close they are.

1165
01:11:16,300 --> 01:11:19,500
Now the bigger issue with the
bigger issue with Carolina

1166
01:11:19,500 --> 01:11:24,000
playing state is State, probably
going to wax them more in a few

1167
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:27,700
times because obviously So, I
hope you might even say hi.

1168
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:32,500
See, I open sea State.
Puts puts the fucking screws to

1169
01:11:32,500 --> 01:11:34,400
him.
Well, I hope everybody can put

1170
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:37,200
the screws to them.
All right, let's look here on,

1171
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:41,900
future schedules.
We looked at 23, 24, 25 and 26,

1172
01:11:41,900 --> 01:11:45,200
and there is one scheduled that
just it.

1173
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:48,400
Let me and Brian's eyes up.
And if you are there, go to the

1174
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:58,500
ACC page and go look at 2024.
Because man, I mean so you get

1175
01:11:58,500 --> 01:12:01,300
Clemson at home.
Awesome.

1176
01:12:01,700 --> 01:12:05,600
We at Louis Vuitton, which I was
kind of hoping we'd get

1177
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:09,100
Louisville instead of pit
because at least their fan base,

1178
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:12,400
you know, they actually have a
living breathing fan base.

1179
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:16,700
We would go to their games,
their side sparsely is like, you

1180
01:12:16,708 --> 01:12:21,100
know, exactly, third filled in
the hind Stadium.

1181
01:12:21,900 --> 01:12:25,000
Yep.
So Georgia, Tech Commonwealth

1182
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:26,600
Compass at home that day at
year.

1183
01:12:26,700 --> 01:12:29,000
And then, even though these
aren't the most exciting Road

1184
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:32,600
games, Duke-carolina pit and
Wake Forest.

1185
01:12:33,500 --> 01:12:38,400
If you are a Virginia Tech fan.
If you want to purchase all ACC

1186
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:42,700
games this year, you would not
have to step on a plane to go to

1187
01:12:42,700 --> 01:12:45,500
those games.
Then you're getting the biggest

1188
01:12:45,500 --> 01:12:49,600
dog at home.
I would love to see when that

1189
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:54,300
game is going to be.
But that's like that's what

1190
01:12:54,300 --> 01:12:56,900
we're talking about.
You get Clemson at home in 2024.

1191
01:12:57,800 --> 01:13:00,700
It's also going to be year three
of prai or we should start

1192
01:13:00,700 --> 01:13:03,600
seeing some Corner get turned.
Yeah.

1193
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:09,200
So I mean with that with the
combination of it, somewhat weak

1194
01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:14,600
and Regional away schedule.
You get Clemson to where you can

1195
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:18,900
showcase, what you got, you get
UVA at home and your next

1196
01:13:18,900 --> 01:13:20,800
toughest competition in the home
schedule.

1197
01:13:20,900 --> 01:13:25,200
Is Louisville.
That's going to be a year where

1198
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:27,200
if the Hokies can turn a turn a
corner.

1199
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:33,800
They've got some potential to to
really get, you know, plus 8

1200
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:36,100
plus 9 potentially 10 wins that
year.

1201
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:41,000
Yeah.
And that's the biggie but then

1202
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:44,400
you like look at like 20 25,
we're getting Florida State at

1203
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:46,500
home and we're on the road in
Miami.

1204
01:13:47,100 --> 01:13:50,900
Yep. 20:26 and NC State.
Yeah.

1205
01:13:50,900 --> 01:13:56,100
And NC State Miami at home
Clemson on the road.

1206
01:13:56,600 --> 01:14:02,800
And this is really why it was
done because If you take a look

1207
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:06,700
at some of these schedules and
you know look it like let's look

1208
01:14:06,700 --> 01:14:08,900
at 20 25 again and let's look at
Florida State.

1209
01:14:08,900 --> 01:14:11,100
They're playing Miami.
They play Clemson.

1210
01:14:11,100 --> 01:14:15,800
We know and they play us.
Those that's three massive

1211
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:18,800
matchups and we looked at ours
already for 25 words, Florida

1212
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:21,500
State and Miami and NC State on
the road.

1213
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:27,100
What you're doing is for the ACC
when they do that schedule, you

1214
01:14:27,100 --> 01:14:31,200
could literally schedule a
significantly big matchup every

1215
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:35,900
single week all throughout the
year and put your biggest fans

1216
01:14:35,900 --> 01:14:40,700
in the best spots in spotlights.
Put your best traditions in

1217
01:14:40,700 --> 01:14:43,800
spotlights, but your best
stadiums and spotlights, that's

1218
01:14:43,900 --> 01:14:47,500
Why this was done, that's why it
was done because you because you

1219
01:14:47,500 --> 01:14:51,000
because you know, we saw what
was it, 16 we played Clemson

1220
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:55,200
that game pulled like a 396, so
almost four million people.

1221
01:14:55,200 --> 01:15:00,900
Watch that game.
And for an ACC team, that's

1222
01:15:00,900 --> 01:15:04,900
huge.
You know the SEC usually pulls

1223
01:15:04,900 --> 01:15:07,700
about six and a half on
Saturday, afternoons to say

1224
01:15:07,700 --> 01:15:11,200
you're pulling for that's that's
a massive number.

1225
01:15:11,700 --> 01:15:14,300
And now you're saying you're
putting all these programs and I

1226
01:15:14,308 --> 01:15:18,100
think that's why we were left
out Because I think they know we

1227
01:15:18,100 --> 01:15:22,600
draw eyes and if you leave Miami
off our schedule, Clemson

1228
01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:25,300
Florida, State and Miami are
going to be constantly every

1229
01:15:25,300 --> 01:15:30,000
year and usually there's going
to be two a year. for one of the

1230
01:15:30,008 --> 01:15:32,400
most passionate fan bases to
play one of the biggest

1231
01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:37,700
opponents, very true head
throat.

1232
01:15:37,700 --> 01:15:40,900
Very sure through.
That was one of our Facebook.

1233
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:43,600
Watchers tonight.
Jacob.

1234
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:46,100
Uh, shoutout.
Yeah, and we had talked about

1235
01:15:46,100 --> 01:15:49,000
that when we were going through
because we said the out of

1236
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:51,500
conference lined up, pretty
nicely to because the two

1237
01:15:51,500 --> 01:15:55,900
toughest out of conferences were
at home as well.

1238
01:15:55,900 --> 01:16:01,900
That year.
So it does, it does line up Yeah

1239
01:16:06,300 --> 01:16:14,000
that's going to be on at home
and then it's Vandy and

1240
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:25,800
Nashville ODU and significantly
favorable that if you know 2024

1241
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:29,700
could be a really big building
year but let's talk about this.

1242
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:32,100
What do you think?
I've given you my opinion.

1243
01:16:32,300 --> 01:16:35,000
What do you think this means for
Hoagie football and and the prai

1244
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:39,800
ERA with this change?
I think it's good because again,

1245
01:16:39,900 --> 01:16:43,500
you talking about getting games
in the footprint more

1246
01:16:43,500 --> 01:16:45,900
consistently, I think it's going
to be a good recruiting tool.

1247
01:16:45,900 --> 01:16:50,000
I think it's going to be good to
not have to play the same

1248
01:16:50,500 --> 01:16:56,300
opponents as many same opponents
every year that's going to help

1249
01:16:56,300 --> 01:16:58,700
with you know in terms of
scouting and things like that.

1250
01:16:58,700 --> 01:17:01,900
It's going to be a little bit
harder for for folks to get a

1251
01:17:02,500 --> 01:17:04,400
hold on what Virginia Tech's
trying to do.

1252
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:08,200
So coaching will definitely
separate the cream and I think

1253
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:11,400
we got a good a good set of guys
on that front at this point.

1254
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:15,500
So and I think the way that the
schedule is lining up especially

1255
01:17:15,500 --> 01:17:20,300
for 2024 is really going to
benefit that kind of turning

1256
01:17:20,300 --> 01:17:25,900
point for prize he's getting his
guys in as he's gotten the Guys

1257
01:17:25,900 --> 01:17:28,700
are already on campus
establishing the system, they

1258
01:17:28,700 --> 01:17:31,800
know the ins and outs.
They know how to kind of run it

1259
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:34,600
like clockwork, right?
So that's going to be that

1260
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:38,900
Turning Point year.
I feel like and it comes a time

1261
01:17:38,900 --> 01:17:42,400
where our schedule is lining up
to not only have some some good

1262
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:47,600
Marquee matchups but also in
terms of travel and strength to

1263
01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:49,500
beat to be somewhat favorable as
well.

1264
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:52,300
It's very true.
And you know, something else, I

1265
01:17:52,308 --> 01:17:57,800
was just thinking about here
2024 because of the weird years

1266
01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:01,600
of the covid years, you know,
still going to be eligible.

1267
01:18:01,900 --> 01:18:08,200
There's a parent Wells.
Hey, potentially a three-year

1268
01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:11,000
starting quarterback in the
year, where everything's

1269
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:13,100
implemented a guy, who's shown
some promise.

1270
01:18:13,500 --> 01:18:17,200
Now we should have more guys to
throw the ball to buy them to.

1271
01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:19,600
Hello?
I'm will go but my hope is Grant

1272
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:22,100
Wilson.
The quarterback in 2024 if he

1273
01:18:22,100 --> 01:18:25,500
just lit it up in 2023 and we
want 11 games a year ahead of

1274
01:18:25,500 --> 01:18:32,300
schedule.
All right, so the portal, no one

1275
01:18:32,500 --> 01:18:34,400
else has left.
No one else has entered.

1276
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:35,800
There's a lot of kids out there
again.

1277
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:41,800
I feel sorry for them.
If you have not The Hardy would

1278
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:47,200
Virginia Tech tailgate event is
11 days away. 20 bucks for a

1279
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:49,100
ticket.
I'm not sure if they're still on

1280
01:18:49,100 --> 01:18:51,400
sale or not.
I would have said they were the

1281
01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:54,000
last time I checked, but, you
know, I don't know if they've

1282
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:57,300
gotten to a Full House here or
not but they were talking about

1283
01:18:57,300 --> 01:18:58,900
selling.
They were talking about selling

1284
01:18:59,100 --> 01:19:02,200
tickets on day of events.
I don't I don't think wherever

1285
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:04,200
they're having at this time,
like, a capacity thing.

1286
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:08,100
You don't have a limitation for
can, I mean me and you go there,

1287
01:19:08,100 --> 01:19:09,000
we've been there.
Brian.

1288
01:19:09,100 --> 01:19:13,200
There is no limitation, you get
6,000 people as big as an area

1289
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:15,800
that is, I don't know whether
going to park everybody.

1290
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:19,100
But hey, if you work that out,
when, you know, we'll get there

1291
01:19:19,100 --> 01:19:22,900
early get there, really early.
Speaking of, I've got to have a

1292
01:19:22,900 --> 01:19:26,000
couple beers hit the food trucks
early.

1293
01:19:27,500 --> 01:19:30,700
I can tell you 20 bucks is
pretty much the price of a beer.

1294
01:19:30,700 --> 01:19:33,900
They're usually get a 16 oz
usually somewhere between six

1295
01:19:33,900 --> 01:19:35,500
and eight bucks.
You leave a tip.

1296
01:19:36,300 --> 01:19:38,500
The beer itself is worth the
$20.

1297
01:19:40,100 --> 01:19:41,800
All the other stuff is a lot of
fun.

1298
01:19:42,700 --> 01:19:45,600
Also, before we wrap up here,
you get snacks, and you get to

1299
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:49,000
hear some coaches and
potentially some players, talk

1300
01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:53,200
about some football and so in a
very good chance to meet them

1301
01:19:53,500 --> 01:19:55,200
and interact with these guys up
front.

1302
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:58,000
That's usually a lot of the
hockey club events you pay that

1303
01:19:58,000 --> 01:19:59,700
money.
You get the interaction.

1304
01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:03,100
And as we've seen, Brent price
and some of this other staff, I

1305
01:20:03,108 --> 01:20:04,800
had a feeling.
If you walk up at them, start a

1306
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:06,900
conversation they would Carry it
on with you.

1307
01:20:08,100 --> 01:20:12,300
So that's awesome.
Now one last piece of

1308
01:20:12,300 --> 01:20:16,000
information here, Brian we
wanted to do a shout-out is just

1309
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:19,800
a few days ago, our Twitter
account, boundary Corner, hit,

1310
01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:26,000
1,500 followers.
And for two guys who in the

1311
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:29,300
winter of 2020 decided to start
doing this for fun, because they

1312
01:20:29,500 --> 01:20:34,500
texted and tweeted and talked
about Toki football constantly,

1313
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:36,600
it was just supposed to be for
fun.

1314
01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:41,200
I never thought we'd get as many
listens as we've gotten or this

1315
01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:44,600
big on Twitter.
So thank all y'all out there for

1316
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:48,300
this.
Yeah, we're still doing this

1317
01:20:48,300 --> 01:20:49,700
because y'all are still
listening.

1318
01:20:49,700 --> 01:20:51,300
Y'all are still tuning in.
Y'all are listening.

1319
01:20:51,500 --> 01:20:54,200
Being on the on the apps.
Y'all are supporting us and

1320
01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:57,100
y'all are following us on social
media interacting with us and

1321
01:20:57,400 --> 01:21:00,900
and keeping this thing going.
So as long as y'all are there

1322
01:21:00,900 --> 01:21:03,000
out there listening we're going
to keep putting content out

1323
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:06,900
there and we love doing it and
we hope that you all are getting

1324
01:21:06,900 --> 01:21:09,600
as much out of it as we are
absolutely.

1325
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:12,800
And I know for us you know,
what's happened really the last

1326
01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:19,800
couple years to You know, got
more interconnected in the Hokie

1327
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:25,200
nation, made some new friends,
had some good laughs and really

1328
01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:27,000
looking forward.
Hopefully this year, getting

1329
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:31,700
back in the stadium.
I don't have a small small

1330
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child.
Yeah.

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Well different when you got a
small small child.

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But yeah, but we really
appreciate you guys again.

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Listening following interacting
with us again.

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Leave reviews.
Hit us up on when we're we're

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live.
If you got something you want to

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say do it in our chat.
No no Jacob tonight first time

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we've seen that name.
So yeah, if you got a good point

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we'll throw it up there and
we'll talk about it.

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All right?
Brian is anything happened to

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the ACC in the Pac-12 merged
where we have to gnaw and

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hopefully hopefully the Big 12
does approach those 16 they were

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talking about out, the gate from
the Pac-12 or the loose

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partnership is always already is
Already.

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You know folding that I yeah I
think we're good to go.

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All right.
Well that's going to wrap up

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this episode of The Boundary
Corner podcast.

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I am Curtis Wilson, I'm Brian
siglo visit our website.

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apple podcast.
As always, we let our Jason Long

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play us in play us out.
And for Jason for you guys down

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in the Roanoke, Valley area on
July 20th from five to seven.

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He's going to be playing at
Crystal Springs.

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Grocery, pop-up Market, in
Roanoke, and on August 6, from 6

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to 9, he is going to be in outer
space from at Finn, Floyd

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County.
He's also going to be playing

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the Roanoke volleyball clubs
after party this weekend.

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So if anybody's involved with
that, our buddy will be out

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there.
They're providing the

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entertainment, always catch him
on Spotify and apple music, and

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he might be having some more new
music coming out soon.

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So, yes, yes, he, I think he had
a session the other day, so we

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might have some more releases
from Jason very soon.

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Yeah, definitely kept the new
and out old man yelling at the

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TV and Brian.
We always thank our fans for

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listening.
And as always, let's go.

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Okay.

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