Know the Enemy: Virginia
Boundary Corner Podcast
Know the Enemy: Virginia

In this episode we recap the closest blowout we've ever witness as we Tell the Truth about the Hokies loss to NC State. We then turn the page to HATE WEEK as we get to Know the Enemy of that team that plays home games in Lane Stadium North. We wrap this episode as always with our Big Screeners picks of the week.

1
00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:47,040
Music.
And welcome back to the Boundary

2
00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,520
Corner Podcast, along with my
partners Brian Siegler, Shelton

3
00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,960
Moss, and Jonathan Talley.
I am Curtis Wilson and this

4
00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,840
episode is brought to you by
Doctor Jeremy Counts at the Main

5
00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,880
Street Pharmacy in Blacksburg.
Your friendly neighborhood

6
00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:02,800
pharmacy.
Three O 1 S Main St. in

7
00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:06,440
Blacksburg, boys.
It happened to me a few minutes

8
00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,120
ago.
Evening Lavar.

9
00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,840
My power's flickering, which
means I might lose Internet

10
00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:12,440
service.
So y'all better be on your PS

11
00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,160
and QS.
Already on that shit we.

12
00:01:15,960 --> 00:01:17,480
Gonna hold it down, We gonna
hold it.

13
00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,720
Down you might.
Lose it too weather acting crazy

14
00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,280
here.
So November rain here.

15
00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,320
And that is the best 90s ballad
treadmill horse.

16
00:01:27,320 --> 00:01:28,800
I know you're out there
listening tonight.

17
00:01:28,960 --> 00:01:32,600
That is the best 90s ballad.
At least the ones you listed at.

18
00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,760
Least the ones you listed.
So how's everybody doing?

19
00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,000
It's Tuesday.
It's been raining all day, man.

20
00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,480
I've been.
This is, this is my one and only

21
00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,080
day of work this week.
So you worked.

22
00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:45,640
One day.
I worked one day.

23
00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,240
I was working from home today,
pretty much making sure that

24
00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,440
there weren't any fires that
needed pudding out.

25
00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:53,800
Since it was just I think one
other person on our team that

26
00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:57,000
was kind of hanging in there.
So just just there to provide

27
00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,480
backup and you know, make sure
nothing goes crazy.

28
00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,120
Thankfully, thankfully, nothing
went crazy.

29
00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:05,720
So.
Sheldon, what about you?

30
00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:07,880
I see you're still in Charlotte.
You in Charlotte for the

31
00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,440
holidays?
Yeah, so I'm I'm in North

32
00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:15,640
Carolina for holidays, going to
go to my my family house in my

33
00:02:15,640 --> 00:02:20,000
cousin's house in in Apex, NC
so, so stay in the Tario state,

34
00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,320
but I can enjoy the weekend and
then I'll be in Tampa, FL this

35
00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,880
Saturday for the Charlotte
football game.

36
00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:27,520
They're playing down at South
Florida.

37
00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:31,200
So going to go see Raymond James
Stadium, home of the Town Bay

38
00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:32,640
Buccaneers.
Looking forward to it.

39
00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,600
Go find the pirate ship.
Go find the pirate ship.

40
00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:36,600
Tally.
What about you, man?

41
00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,880
How's the day been?
Been pretty good, man.

42
00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:43,480
You know it's Thanksgiving week.
Time to eat, drink, be merry.

43
00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,360
All of that stuff.
Find you some good moonshine.

44
00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,440
You may need it.
We don't know.

45
00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,920
Who you rooting for?
I don't know who you betting on,

46
00:02:52,640 --> 00:02:55,000
but moonshine will make it much
better.

47
00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,520
I was telling Tally before we
got on Curtis that tomorrow

48
00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:03,640
night is the drunkest night of
the year in in the United States

49
00:03:03,640 --> 00:03:06,800
of America.
More people drink on the day

50
00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,080
before Thanksgiving, the and the
other night of the week of the

51
00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,400
year.
So get get ready.

52
00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,760
Get like Tally said, get you
some moonshine, get you

53
00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,080
something nice and nice to keep
you warm.

54
00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:20,360
Maybe we should have divided
into tomorrow night.

55
00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:21,920
We could have gotten drunk.
Let's.

56
00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:25,520
Do it again.
I can get drunk tonight because

57
00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,360
I'm not working tomorrow, but
you know.

58
00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:33,080
I'm working tomorrow.
We already got like we already

59
00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,920
got the phone call, like, yeah,
work, work a little while, you

60
00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,760
can leave a little bit early.
132 you could kind of just start

61
00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,000
heading out the out the
building, yeah.

62
00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,120
So yeah, all right, lots on load
tonight.

63
00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,240
Y'all.
Obviously Hokies lose, as Brian

64
00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:54,640
said, the closest blowout ever
3528 against the Wolfpack on

65
00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:58,280
Saturday afternoon.
So we're going to definitely be

66
00:03:58,280 --> 00:03:59,840
talking about that.
We're definitely going to tell

67
00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,960
the truth Tuesday.
We are also going to be breaking

68
00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:07,760
down UVA Little hate week here.
A lot of hate pouring out.

69
00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:12,280
A lot of hate started with their
fucking loudmouth quarterback on

70
00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,640
Saturday afternoon.
I better be in every fucking

71
00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,600
locker room with that.
Everybody's, everybody's,

72
00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,920
everybody's for a little thing,
but let's flip news and notes

73
00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:23,880
before we kick over to tell the
truth.

74
00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:25,280
Choose down.
Let's start with hoops and let's

75
00:04:25,280 --> 00:04:28,640
talk about men's.
Basketball they down wall for

76
00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,480
just the other night by I
believe 20.

77
00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,440
Plus I saw bits and pieces of
that game.

78
00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:37,400
They shot well.
Little shocker, Boise tomorrow

79
00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,120
or Thanksgiving night and then
Auburn Lumen next week.

80
00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,440
I'm going to kick it to all of
y'all.

81
00:04:43,840 --> 00:04:50,880
If the Hokies go blank, they
will have a good season over the

82
00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:52,600
next.
Two in those games.

83
00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:56,120
In those two games.
It's so hard to say in

84
00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,640
basketball because it doesn't
matter until conference play

85
00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,840
starts.
Like that's where you figure out

86
00:05:00,840 --> 00:05:04,720
who your team is.
So if we had to put something on

87
00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:09,080
it, one and one, but even if
they if they go O and two, I

88
00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:10,760
don't think it defines the
season.

89
00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,880
I think they got to win too.
I mean I'm just projecting for

90
00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,720
the ACC tournament because they
don't really have a ton of

91
00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:20,920
opportunities for quality wins
assuming they don't beat Auburn.

92
00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:25,040
So depends, I don't, I don't
know, it depends how the ACC

93
00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,720
stacks up in terms of how
they're projected with the the

94
00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,680
networkings and all that stuff.
I don't know if it's going to be

95
00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,000
a proceed to the quick
conference.

96
00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,400
So because of that Tech has to
do well the non con.

97
00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:36,440
So I think it's a pretty big, I
think it's a pretty big

98
00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,360
tournament.
OK, so.

99
00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,240
Yeah, I I think it's a two and O
situation too, for the same

100
00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,000
reason, Sheldon said.
This is where you got to build

101
00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:45,720
your resume.
This is the time to do it.

102
00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,960
You know I don't as as Sheldon
said, I don't think the ACC is

103
00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,680
perceived as a good conference.
It's going to depend on how in

104
00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,320
that kind of second tier they
fall.

105
00:05:57,840 --> 00:06:00,760
So that that's really going to
kind of determine the strength

106
00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,320
there.
So getting all the wins you can

107
00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,200
in the non con is going to be
very important.

108
00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:09,920
Let's go to and O let's let's
take this into December on a on

109
00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,000
a high note here.
Yeah, I'm.

110
00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,560
I'm with y'all.
I think it has to be two and O

111
00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,200
if anything is to build the
confidence to play again.

112
00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:21,080
Boise perceived as a good team,
they lost by 17 to Clemson just

113
00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,800
the other night and Auburn is a
good team.

114
00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:28,200
I think it's confidence because
after those games they basically

115
00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:32,240
have following week, they open
conference play with Louisville.

116
00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,880
So if you go in there, you go
one O, 1 or O and two.

117
00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,040
I mean the confidence is going
to be down.

118
00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,480
This team needs the confidence.
Hey, because of what tally, I

119
00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,560
think what Y'all said, this is a
shooting team.

120
00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,280
They're shooting.
Team shooters need confidence.

121
00:06:47,280 --> 00:06:49,200
So let's see how that shakes
out.

122
00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:55,000
It is Thursday night at 8:00, so
I'll be watching the Niners

123
00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,720
here, the Hokies here.
All right, Women's, they

124
00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,680
struggled a little bit with
UNCG.

125
00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:03,240
They've got a couple of Kansas,
then Tulane this weekend, Friday

126
00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,320
and Saturday.
LSU looming next week.

127
00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,160
I don't.
Y'all y'all tell me.

128
00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,000
Not until we get to the LSU
game.

129
00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,560
Are you worried?
Like, honestly, and I mean, are

130
00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,400
y'all worried about any of these
teams coming up?

131
00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,320
I mean.
No, I mean I wouldn't call them

132
00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,920
necessarily a warm up, but
they're certainly not, not any

133
00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:26,200
teams that going to I think
press this wall to wall so.

134
00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,160
LSU got some bullshit going on
down there right now, too.

135
00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:34,600
So yeah, maybe, maybe we can,
you know, sneak around and blow

136
00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:38,640
them out.
Angel Reese not dressing out for

137
00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,920
a game or got benched or
something, we got all kind of

138
00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:43,400
stuff going on early this
season.

139
00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:46,840
Yeah, and that's not helping
them gel with, you know, a

140
00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:48,280
couple new pieces that they
brought in.

141
00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,880
So it'll be interesting to see
if they, you know, able to put

142
00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:53,600
those pieces together between
now and then.

143
00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:59,000
And you know, I I still like our
chances regardless.

144
00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,120
They definitely play a more
physical brand of basketball

145
00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,600
than we do.
So it's going to be interesting

146
00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,040
to see if we can match that that
that was a problem in the

147
00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:08,320
tournament last year.
It was.

148
00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,400
So you know, if if we can
either, you know, get a lead

149
00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:16,480
where that becomes less of a
problem or you know, at least

150
00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,360
match some of that energy to
kind of offset that a little

151
00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,560
bit, I think we'll be all right.
Showing anything on this,

152
00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,840
that'll be fine, I think.
I think Kansas will be a good

153
00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:30,240
test and I'll see when they when
they get there, but kind of like

154
00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,919
what Ty was saying like non
conference games especially for

155
00:08:32,919 --> 00:08:34,880
this team, just not the biggest
deal in the world.

156
00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:36,840
Like they we know that they're
going to be high seed.

157
00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,280
So it'd be it'd be nice to win
obviously for the resume and you

158
00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,440
know maybe for for the social
media right bragging rights as

159
00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:44,120
well.
But.

160
00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,040
It's bragging rights.
It's confidence too.

161
00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,760
And as much as that people, you
know, we're we're down about the

162
00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,360
Iowa loss.
You playing with one of the best

163
00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:53,760
teams in the country, you're
right there.

164
00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:57,160
Go to LSU, get that win and
just, you know, just keep the

165
00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,360
building, keep building.
Yes, we have been waiting.

166
00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:01,760
I have to watch that since this
Saturday.

167
00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:05,360
Hokey Nation, 54231.
More piece, One more piece,

168
00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,280
hokey wise, and I got to turn to
one other thing.

169
00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,600
College football wise.
Wrestling.

170
00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:13,000
Big win Up at Piscataway.
They take out the number 15

171
00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,720
Rutgers Scarlet Knights.
That was a good win on Friday

172
00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,360
and over the weekend the
Keystone Classic.

173
00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,480
Wrestling's crazy because
there's another thing going on

174
00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,600
tonight up at Penn State.
I was reading like where.

175
00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,400
Like some of the best in the
country are competing.

176
00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,720
It's like an All Star thing.
That shit's crazy.

177
00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:35,520
But Keystone Classic up in Penn.
Kayla Penson won.

178
00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,440
Bryce Adonian won.
Andy Smith won.

179
00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,240
Hunter Cackle won.
They take 4 championships up

180
00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,640
there, which is pretty daggone
good.

181
00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,800
And it's much like women's
basketball, right?

182
00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:53,440
Kind of the way we view it, It's
like we're going to be good.

183
00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,320
We're going to send people to
the Nationals.

184
00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,680
We're going to compete for the
ACC title.

185
00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,760
It's just I like to just see the
accolades, right?

186
00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,880
Because when you see those guys
winning the tournaments, having

187
00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:09,480
a good, having a good duel, it's
like this is the confidence we

188
00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,520
need for some of those guys.
Yeah.

189
00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,680
I think it's all about building
up that confidence and kind of

190
00:10:14,680 --> 00:10:20,720
taking some of those that
momentum into the conference

191
00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,440
time and seeing how you can
build off of that.

192
00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:26,920
All right.
Don't they have anything on the

193
00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:27,680
wrestling?
Nothing.

194
00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:29,120
Shelton Alley?
Nope.

195
00:10:29,560 --> 00:10:31,360
All right, one piece.
I tell y'all.

196
00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,240
I keep up with hirings and
firings.

197
00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:37,440
Dino Babers got fired the other
day up at Syracuse.

198
00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:41,320
So now the run of the muck of
how many people are interested

199
00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,520
in that job is going up and
down.

200
00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,000
There's two more pieces,
actually.

201
00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:52,240
I mean, I guess if you're a long
10 year at OC or DC and they

202
00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,760
offer you a job, you take it,
all right?

203
00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,480
Right.
I mean, who can?

204
00:10:58,680 --> 00:11:01,960
Who can win in Syracuse?
It's a tough job.

205
00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:06,120
It's a tough job, you know, It's
just a tough football job.

206
00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,800
So not talking shit about them.
But you know, I don't know.

207
00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,800
I don't know who can win there.
It's not the 90s anymore.

208
00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,880
It's not, it's not and it and
it's crazy to think if you go

209
00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,400
back and look in the history
books that from like the mid 80s

210
00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:24,280
to the early 2000s, they were a
legitimate top 25 program year

211
00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:28,160
in, year out.
You know, we had our wars with

212
00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:28,680
them.
Everybody.

213
00:11:28,680 --> 00:11:33,760
Always.
It was it 9797 game always hurts

214
00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:37,280
a little bit.
All right, One more piece and

215
00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:39,720
everybody follows it.
Saw it.

216
00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:41,440
I mean it.
The tea leaves have been there

217
00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,720
for the last about six weeks,
but Marcellus Barnes Junior

218
00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:48,760
Decommits over the weekend
officially puts it out there.

219
00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:55,320
I think for I think for US, US 4
here, it's not a shock.

220
00:11:57,920 --> 00:11:59,680
Yeah, once.
Once Georgia was starting to

221
00:11:59,680 --> 00:12:03,000
push hard, you kind of got a
feeling that that was going to

222
00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:08,400
go the way it did.
It's that's a hard one to win

223
00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:14,960
heads up you know especially for
a player that you know has is

224
00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,240
kind of that lower, you know
from a ranking standpoint that

225
00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,640
you know high 3, low 4 like
getting that offer is pretty big

226
00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:28,960
for him so.
You know best of luck to him you

227
00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:34,920
know looks like George is is the
is the go there so sucks.

228
00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,400
But I think we're we're we're on
to the next, so we'll see what

229
00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:41,120
what comes down the Pike here.
What's even more important, or

230
00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:46,520
more interesting, is as soon as
he decommits, his ranking shoots

231
00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:48,160
up.
Shut up.

232
00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:49,880
I'm just saying.
Shut up.

233
00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:50,760
Oh yeah.
Ranking.

234
00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,560
Ranking goes up.
Hold on, We need.

235
00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:57,680
To Oh yeah, drop to a composite
3 before he decommitted and then

236
00:12:57,680 --> 00:13:00,320
I think he's back to a composite
4 if I'm not mistaken.

237
00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,880
He is, he's, he's he's almost a
90 now.

238
00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,440
Yeah, I'm telling you.
Where's Matei?

239
00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:10,200
Call Matei, everybody.
I'm telling you man, hey, they

240
00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,400
have to pay for subscriptions
one way or the other.

241
00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,800
When certain people start.
When some people.

242
00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:19,000
When certain people start.
Sneaking around, the rankings

243
00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:22,080
get a little bit different.
We need this team to stay here.

244
00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:25,200
We need this team to stay here.
We need this team to stay here.

245
00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:26,960
They know how it works, man.
You.

246
00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:28,880
Conspiracy theory.
You got a conspiracy?

247
00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,000
Theory and a conspiracy they
keep showing us.

248
00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:35,840
I mean, they're making it easy.
Make it.

249
00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,760
They make it super easy.
He decommits from Virginia Tech

250
00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:43,080
as ranking goes up.
What the fuck?

251
00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,280
If Georgia doesn't give an
offer, he comes back as he going

252
00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:50,240
back to an 87.75.
Expeditiously.

253
00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:56,600
We're talking about before he
has to show you got anything on

254
00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,320
this, man?
I know it's tough to give up

255
00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,200
recruiting with all you're
doing.

256
00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,360
Yeah, I know.
I just only thing I would say I

257
00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,680
saw someone on social media.
This happens a lot.

258
00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,880
Say something like, well, why
would he, You know, you go to

259
00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,640
Georgia when you could be like a
star at VTi think that's kind of

260
00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:13,520
a worked way of looking at it.
I mean, you figure you go to

261
00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,720
Georgia, you've got the best
coaches on the planet, best

262
00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:20,720
facilities, the the most
exposure, nil money NFL draft

263
00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,160
opportunities.
I mean, it's kind of a no

264
00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,040
brainer.
So I just think it's, it's just

265
00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:26,440
a losing battle.
They've got the money, they've

266
00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,200
got the the winning, the
success.

267
00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,520
Just not something I'd overreact
to too much.

268
00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:32,920
All right.
Well.

269
00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:37,320
This has not been a very happy
and we don't get even unhappier

270
00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:41,880
here and we got to tell the
truth Tuesday and you know you

271
00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,120
all know the way we do this we
always going to start with what

272
00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,760
went well and I'll fire this one
right out the the the boys

273
00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:54,480
didn't quit the whole game.
No, down, down 21 and fight all

274
00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:58,880
the way.
What else Y'all got Anything

275
00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,640
else y'all noticed before we
jump on the offensive, defensive

276
00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,200
sides of the ball?
Just kind of in general about

277
00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:08,040
this game.
Excuse me?

278
00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,280
Drone can throw the ball, I
mean.

279
00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:12,720
Oh yeah.
I don't know if he's developed

280
00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:16,160
into that, but he definitely can
throw it.

281
00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:20,440
So I was told earlier in the
season that he was, he was

282
00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:25,040
struggling, he was struggling
throwing the, throwing the deep

283
00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,920
pass, so.
I'm just saying he's progressed,

284
00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,680
if that's what the case is.
Well for sure.

285
00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,040
I mean you take a look at what
he did.

286
00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:37,760
I mean those home run pass plays
like I mean he he he is.

287
00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:41,600
Every time you see him take
those he puts them in the right

288
00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,680
spots.
He he and knock on wood damn it

289
00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:47,760
he is not an under thrower on a
deep shot.

290
00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,200
He's not.
He puts it over their head and

291
00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,720
that's why you've seen so many
drops in the he put it right

292
00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,120
here.
And putting you up here, he

293
00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:00,480
drops the dime or it's going to
be slightly out of reach.

294
00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,200
That's the one good thing,
Brian.

295
00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:05,080
Anything else that impressed you
with the offense or anything

296
00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:10,360
like that on Saturday?
I mean, I'd say his patience it

297
00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,960
more than anything, waiting for
those routes to develop and come

298
00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:17,280
open and trusting the pass pro
was going to give him enough

299
00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:21,600
time against that pass rush.
You know, there were a lot of

300
00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:25,320
times where you know.
Things had to develop on the

301
00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,320
back end for some of those big
plays to happen.

302
00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:31,520
So you had some patience there,
was able to deliver accurate

303
00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:35,200
balls consistently and we were
able to move the move the rock

304
00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,520
once we kind of got into that
catch up mode unfortunately,

305
00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:42,400
which is kind of, you know, not
not the game plan we had out the

306
00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,920
gate obviously.
Yeah, and we're going to get.

307
00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:47,880
Into the game plan Out of the
gate.

308
00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:52,720
Can I say another thing?
XTB is behest.

309
00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:57,360
Yeah, he's very fast.
I mean and and that was one of

310
00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,160
that was such a great pivot play
at that point in time in the

311
00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,960
game because and I'm going to
mention this in a little while

312
00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:09,359
here, but when we ran that play
to the boundary side, I mean

313
00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:13,920
everybody from NC State flowed
and when I think came back, they

314
00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:17,359
did not see that coming.
They did not see that coming at

315
00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,520
all.
Sean, anything on offense you

316
00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:22,400
can think of that went well in
your eyes?

317
00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:27,720
Watching it, reading over data,
Anything, I mean I think it was

318
00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,280
it was a hard game to analyze
because the box score stats in

319
00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,200
my opinion and kind of softened
up what, you know, we pass on

320
00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,800
the field obviously check
couldn't get the run game going

321
00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:40,200
so they had to kind of play from
behind.

322
00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,240
And once NC State got that three
touchdown lead, they kind of

323
00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,560
went into a little bit of a
shell turtled up so to speak.

324
00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,000
And that's when the the
passings, you know, the passing

325
00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,400
kind of opened up.
So I don't know if it was just

326
00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,960
them playing prevent.
Obviously I like what I saw in

327
00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,440
the fourth quarter from from
drones in the passing game.

328
00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,440
I liked how they had some big
plays and they struck back when

329
00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,360
NCC scored touch ends.
But I just don't know.

330
00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,040
It's hard because I don't know
how NC State would have played

331
00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,560
differently if they had only had
a one touchdown lead rather than

332
00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:06,480
a three touchdown.
Lead.

333
00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:08,040
That's fair.
That's fair.

334
00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:10,840
All righty.
Now let's go to defensive side

335
00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,640
of the ball because I'm.
I will be honest with y'all.

336
00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,920
Was the way I watched this game
was very awkward followed on my

337
00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,200
phone the first half.
Unfortunately, most of the third

338
00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:25,720
quarter I had to listen to NC
State radio calls and Robert and

339
00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:27,840
I was calling a perfect game.
Y'all.

340
00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,880
I heard that like 6 times.
I had to turn radio off twice

341
00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:32,480
because I got sick to my
stomach.

342
00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:36,120
Luckily, about the time I hit
Chase City Bron, the exit there?

343
00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:42,680
Thank God I picked up Bill and
Mike the rest of the drive home.

344
00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:48,480
But, and then I came home and I
watched the game and on defense,

345
00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,760
I like every nothing was right.
Like the the play calls were

346
00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,520
bad, they were out of position.
They looked lost.

347
00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,000
Do y'all have anything
defensively?

348
00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:05,720
Honestly.
Delaney hit somebody hard.

349
00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:11,960
Yeah, yeah.
I mean trying to trying to find

350
00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,160
something.
I mean we right, we never really

351
00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,840
got into a groove defensively
like they they had us on our

352
00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:23,240
heels most of the game and I
mean you know in the

353
00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,440
second-half, I mean obviously
they kind of went a little more

354
00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,240
conservative.
That was the only time we looked

355
00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:30,440
like anything.
But again that was more a

356
00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:36,760
product of their game plan than
it was anything that we did

357
00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:40,400
significantly well.
So that that was the most you

358
00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,560
know?
That was disappointing.

359
00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:44,640
And I mean, I don't really
think, I can't really think of

360
00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:48,000
anything that I saw that really
stood out to me.

361
00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:49,280
That's like, yeah, that was
good.

362
00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,160
I mean, D line play was all
right.

363
00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:58,640
That's it.
But it wasn't spectacular.

364
00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,120
And then what was happening on
the back end, it needed to be

365
00:20:01,120 --> 00:20:02,480
spectacular.
And it wasn't.

366
00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:04,240
All right, well, let's just jump
to it.

367
00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,680
Let's go to what went bad.
And I'm going to start with

368
00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:08,280
defense.
And Sheldon, I don't know if you

369
00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,120
were able to pull this.
But did were you able to find

370
00:20:11,120 --> 00:20:14,600
what Wolfpack's normal success
rate is versus what it was

371
00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:16,600
Saturday?
Yeah.

372
00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:21,120
So coming to the game, it was
around 39%, which ranked 96.

373
00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:25,880
This game is about 46%.
So plus 7% increase kind of

374
00:20:26,120 --> 00:20:28,360
pretty significant in the
context of success rates, I

375
00:20:28,360 --> 00:20:30,520
think averages around like 40%,
something like that.

376
00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,560
But there was also there's also
a big discrepancy in terms of.

377
00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,640
Standard downs are passing
downs, so obviously standard

378
00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,520
downs like your first and 10s
where you could either run or

379
00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:44,480
pass the ball, NC State 54%
there on passing downs, they're

380
00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:49,120
only about half as successful.
So basically when whenever tech

381
00:20:49,120 --> 00:20:51,920
was not, whenever tech did not
force NC State into an obvious

382
00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,120
passing situation, that's when
they really struggled.

383
00:20:54,120 --> 00:20:57,160
And that's kind of what we what
I know Brian and I mentioned in

384
00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,960
our preview was like, you've got
to get them into passing downs

385
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,040
and and then when they did, it
worked, but they just couldn't

386
00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,160
do it enough.
All right, Brian, what else,

387
00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:05,920
Charlie?
What else?

388
00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:07,760
One of y'all speak up.
What else did y'all see that

389
00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:11,040
went bad in your eyes, 'cause
obviously we just had a moment

390
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,400
of silence up there, 'cause not
that much went good.

391
00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,720
I mean Concepcion cooked us a
bunch of times, man.

392
00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:22,120
You know some of it was all
those those passing downs, some

393
00:21:22,120 --> 00:21:26,360
of it was in the run game, some
of it was just those quick

394
00:21:26,360 --> 00:21:28,040
screens.
So, but he did a little bit of

395
00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,280
everything and and pretty much
all of it hurt us at Different.

396
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:32,800
Parts of the game.
Yeah.

397
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:39,640
He did whatever he wanted to do.
I mean, he paid his, his he paid

398
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:43,720
his $100 to the neighborhood
hooker and he did whatever he

399
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,520
wanted to do for the night.
That's what happened.

400
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:51,960
I'm just telling you Brian, that
is at 2244 if you're.

401
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:58,880
We we didn't get off.
We didn't get off the field on

402
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,360
3rd downs at all like we needed
to.

403
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,120
I mean it's the same stuff when
we play bad, it's the same

404
00:22:06,120 --> 00:22:10,280
things.
It's like again, this team is so

405
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,400
up and down.
You look at the same stuff week

406
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,360
in and week out, whether it's
good or bad.

407
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,680
When it's good it's good, but
when it's bad it's bad.

408
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,640
You know the run fits are
horrible.

409
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,480
We don't get off the field on
3rd downs when we need to.

410
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:27,040
You know we.
Penalties just whatever, man.

411
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,640
It's just the same stuff and
people get tired of seeing it.

412
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,720
And I get it.
I understand everybody watching

413
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,160
everybody.
If you're watching this later

414
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:38,320
on, if you're at work, if you're
at church, calm down a little

415
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:39,800
bit.
You know what I'm saying?

416
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:41,760
I get it.
You deserve to be mad.

417
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,080
But you don't have a couple of
days.

418
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,960
Nobody's getting fired.
So don't even get your blood

419
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,600
pressure up because they ain't
getting fired, you know?

420
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,960
Do they need to be fired?
Were we saying they need to be

421
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:53,480
fired when we blowing people
out?

422
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,480
Like we got to take a whole body
of work and look at what we

423
00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:01,600
need, what we were last year,
what we are this year, what we

424
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,760
need to be next year.
It's a lot of stuff to think

425
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,160
about, man.
You start talking about firing

426
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,600
people and just bringing new
people in, then you fucking end

427
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:14,960
up like Texas A&M paying a man
$76,000,000 to be the same shit

428
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,160
you've been.
Use the same shit you've been.

429
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,880
You just added some salt on top
and the salt was him being mad

430
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,440
at Nick Saban every week.
So.

431
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,120
I'm just saying, man, I ain't
saying that, you know, the

432
00:23:26,120 --> 00:23:27,760
coaches don't need to be
scrutinized.

433
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:31,480
But I'm not going to go into the
whole let's fire the whole

434
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:36,040
coaching staff every week until
we actually have something that

435
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:40,720
is going to make us better.
I mean, I'm the, I'm the type of

436
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,320
person that you know when, when
you're when you're looking at

437
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:49,120
something.
I need to see what you can do,

438
00:23:49,120 --> 00:23:52,040
what you can do for me, what you
can show me before I will show

439
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:53,680
you the door.
Yeah.

440
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,800
And I don't think we're quite at
that point yet with with anybody

441
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,720
on this tab obviously definitely
not the head coach.

442
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:04,680
But I think we're, I think we're
still waiting to see where the

443
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,920
where the ceiling could
potentially be and and and this

444
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,400
is year 2 of what you know was
going to be a multiple year

445
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,760
rebuild.
We're we're talking about a team

446
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:17,560
that has shown improvement.
But what what they're struggling

447
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,680
with is consistency.
That's the truth.

448
00:24:20,360 --> 00:24:22,440
And The thing is it happened.
And I'm going to, I'm going to

449
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,640
bring us back to where we were
because I'm agreeing with both

450
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,560
of y'all on what y'all are
saying.

451
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,720
But what?
What's frustrating Saturday in

452
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,600
the most frustrating A.
This is a male offense.

453
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,080
This was not that good of an
offense.

454
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,360
Sheldon had the numbers where
they ranked in the country.

455
00:24:36,360 --> 00:24:39,360
Not a good successful offense, a
male offense.

456
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:40,960
There are two guys that could
beat you.

457
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,040
We already mentioned conception.
He beat us.

458
00:24:43,360 --> 00:24:45,440
He torched our asses.
The other guy was Brendan

459
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,520
Armstrong, and Brendan Armstrong
had his fucking day.

460
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,920
He ran for, if you an account of
those knees at the end.

461
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,200
He went for well over 100
rushing a ball.

462
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:59,400
A lot of was designs and I think
what got me a little bit and I'm

463
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:03,280
going, I'm going to pitch it to
Shell here in a second, was the

464
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,120
first couple drives.
We kind of pegged them.

465
00:25:05,120 --> 00:25:09,640
We kind of had what their number
and then they adjusted and we

466
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,440
didn't and they scored on five.
And I had to hear that from NC

467
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,360
State as well.
When I was on the damn radio,

468
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,120
five drives in a row, they
scored a touchdown.

469
00:25:19,360 --> 00:25:22,960
And it's just like that's.
Just can't give.

470
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,120
Yeah you can't give that up and
don't answer.

471
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,640
You know you get your defense to
go out and you know, I know I

472
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:33,320
seen a lot of people saying fire
Mars, you know maybe one day you

473
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,600
deserve to be fired.
But against Syracuse?

474
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:41,640
I'm just saying like what it
what you, you, you, you in a 00

475
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,280
game going into the second,
second quarter you know.

476
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,360
Your offense has to produce,
man.

477
00:25:47,360 --> 00:25:49,720
You're at home.
You got to bring some, you got

478
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,160
to bring some juice.
You got to adjust.

479
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:55,200
So I ain't saying that the the
defense had a good day.

480
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,680
I'm just saying it's a it's a
collective effort to suck.

481
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,440
And that's what we did.
Let me ask Sheldon, can I pitch

482
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:03,960
to Sheldon real quick?
Because Sheldon looked up.

483
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,800
The one thing I was more
concerned about every time you

484
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,720
said the defensive line didn't
have a had an OK game in your

485
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,000
eyes Brown when you looked at
the tape?

486
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,480
I asked Sheldon look up yards
before contact.

487
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,720
What was that Shelton?
Did you get to it about how much

488
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,360
it was pre contact?
Before contact, yeah, it was

489
00:26:21,360 --> 00:26:27,360
probably about say 55 yards.
So think about that 55 yards.

490
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:34,480
They ran about 40 run plays.
It was a yard and a half before

491
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,000
we were touching them.
On average a yard and a half.

492
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,120
Y'all two boys played up on that
front.

493
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,160
If you're getting a yard and a
half push, how's your running

494
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:48,400
game going to do that day?
Pretty good.

495
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,200
I mean you, if you can get 3
yards to carry, you.

496
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:54,680
All right.
You know what I'm saying?

497
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,320
So we're saying right there with
that stat that he pulled up that

498
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,280
before they got touched a yard
and a half.

499
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,840
And when I started looking more
and more, our drops were crazy

500
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,720
back for some of the linebackers
like way off the line.

501
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,480
And I didn't understand it.
I didn't understand it because

502
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,280
Ryan, you joked last weekend,
it's the God honest truth.

503
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,760
Brendan Armstrong doesn't have
the ball, the arm to push the

504
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,080
ball down there.
He doesn't.

505
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:22,080
He never has.
So by the way, we had our

506
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,000
defense and this is where I'm
frustrated with Marv.

507
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:28,120
It's like the only way he could
beat you is give him soft zones

508
00:27:28,360 --> 00:27:30,640
and give him some sort of run
lanes.

509
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,600
The two things you couldn't do,
we laid on the platform.

510
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,200
And that's what makes me mad
because I see it here as a

511
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,200
common football fan.
I've talked to y'all I, Sheldon,

512
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:45,080
about data and I say you telling
me this, play press, stack the

513
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:49,320
box a little bit, make them go
over the top on you, force that

514
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,920
they can get off the press.
And we didn't do that.

515
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:56,920
And we have three really good
quarterbacks, and I know we've

516
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,800
got to have some at safety right
now, but we have three really

517
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,600
good quarterbacks.
And that's what pisses me off.

518
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,880
And it's like, what's going to
happen if someone leaves?

519
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,360
What's going to happen if the
next guy doesn't develop quite

520
00:28:09,360 --> 00:28:12,360
well?
Then it's going to be on Chris

521
00:28:12,360 --> 00:28:13,880
Mark.
Right.

522
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,000
Anything else on defense?
I'm sorry.

523
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,520
I got him a bad guy for a
second.

524
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,280
I mean the the last thing I'm
going to say is that, you know,

525
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,840
we said trick plays were coming,
they came, they worked.

526
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,120
It kind of sucked that, you
know, you weren't able to do

527
00:28:27,120 --> 00:28:30,720
anything with it.
Every single trick play they ran

528
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,400
worked.
It's bad, man.

529
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,920
And again but but that's where
it's like I don't believe in

530
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,200
firing, you know, Chris Moore,
Tyler Bowen.

531
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,200
Nobody's getting fired this year
because there's been at times

532
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,600
where again you've seen all
right looks like they know what

533
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,600
the hell they're doing good
calls and some people say, well

534
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,240
that's against lesser
competition.

535
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,480
Tyler, I go back to what you
said earlier this year.

536
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,440
You talking about when lose by a
lot, lose by a little, win by a

537
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:00,640
little.
Start winning by more.

538
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,920
The scenario this year is lose
you the best three teams in the

539
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,680
conference, Beat up on the
bottom of the conference and not

540
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,320
and not win by three points.
Win by 4 points.

541
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,920
Beat up the bottom of the
conference.

542
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,600
Right, so.
Yeah.

543
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,800
Yeah, I mean the weird thing is
that the with the ACC, there's

544
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,600
there really hasn't been a
measuring stick.

545
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:28,320
It's either been, you know, not
not playing UNC and not playing

546
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,960
a couple other teams like that.
Georgia Tech, you know, Miami.

547
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,760
Miami, There hasn't been a lot
of middle tier teams on our

548
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,640
schedule.
It's either been bottom 5 or top

549
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:44,640
three, so and we're getting
another bottom 5 this week, so.

550
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,320
It.
It's it's been really hard to

551
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,720
get a barometer of where exactly
this team is.

552
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,600
We know we're not a bad team but
we don't know how decent of a

553
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,400
team we are.
Shelton Anything else on the

554
00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:00,600
defence before we wrap this up?
Yeah, so I I was having a

555
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,840
conversation with one of my
coaching buddies who who knows

556
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:04,600
about scheme and I trust his
opinion.

557
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,200
And I think basically what he
laid out to me was when you look

558
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:12,120
at the linebacker play for
Virginia Tech, you see the same

559
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:16,400
issues with regards to force and
spill and lever over and over

560
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:17,880
and over again from the same
players.

561
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,760
And so I think it's reasonable
to question if this is a

562
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,400
coaching problem, given that it
keeps happening over and over

563
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,040
again.
But what he also said was, and I

564
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,000
agree with this, I I think that
that whole lineback room needs a

565
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,160
makeover.
I just, I don't think those guys

566
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,520
have the instincts with we're
playing a bunch of converted

567
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,000
safeties now.
If we get some studs coming in

568
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,240
next year and we still have the
same problems, then it's

569
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,520
definitely a coaching issue.
But I just, I would like to see

570
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:46,080
a a a Marv coach team that has
guys with with instincts and a

571
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,320
good feel for that position.
Yeah, 'cause when you look at,

572
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,240
you look at the conference man.
And no disrespect to our guys,

573
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,840
but.
I think they're working hard,

574
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,000
but like Sheldon said, I mean,
we got a lot of converted

575
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,560
safeties in the linebackers, you
know what I mean?

576
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:02,400
And.
You.

577
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:08,840
Look at when you when you look
at a linebacker, Virginia has a

578
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:13,200
true freshman linebacker.
Cam Robinson is a linebacker.

579
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,200
Peyton Wilson is a linebacker.
You know what I'm saying?

580
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,520
Like, it is much different to
have somebody like that playing

581
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,680
linebacker than even to have
Kelly Lawson.

582
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,440
And I think, you know, I think
Kelly Lawson's a good player,

583
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:33,080
but as good as he may be for us,
there's still a drop off from a

584
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,560
top linebacker.
We just don't have that play

585
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,360
yet.
Allen Tinsdale.

586
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,000
Hey man, time to be a family,
man.

587
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,760
Join us.
Come on, the podcast put you

588
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,560
some headphones on.
You don't got to go out there

589
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,400
and get beat up no more.
It's over.

590
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,520
You know, Come on up in here and
I think what y'all, it's what's

591
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,640
being reflected here before we
move over to the offensive side

592
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,280
of the ball is that linebacker
position.

593
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,080
It's instincts.
Most guys who play that position

594
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,840
don't move.
You are a linebacker mostly all

595
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,160
of your life.
That's it.

596
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,400
Because what it takes to be that
it is a certain skill set.

597
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,720
What what what Tally saying is
can we just get him Andrew

598
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:16,840
Tapapuaca at middle linebacker
and name name a will.

599
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,520
You don't have to name the best
will we've had, but name a solid

600
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:23,360
will and he do good.
So yeah, by the way, the only

601
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,360
player we, we see having good
games on the lineman core is

602
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:28,880
Jenkins.
And why?

603
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,520
Why you want to?
In my opinion, because the star

604
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:35,280
is a true hybrid safety.
Linebacker Keonta was a safety.

605
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,320
It's more of his wheelhouse.
All right, let's go to the

606
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:43,520
offensive side of the ball.
Anybody that wants to answer

607
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:48,080
this question?
Why did it take so long for us

608
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:52,760
to open passing game downfield?
Why?

609
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:58,840
Because it worked. 20 Go ahead
bro.

610
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,680
I was just going to say, I feel
like, you know, we we talk about

611
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:08,080
this a lot on here that we're a
little late with the pivots in

612
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:13,120
scrapping the game plan, moving
away from the script, all that

613
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,640
stuff.
After your first two drives of

614
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,480
not having success, you need to
mix it up.

615
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:19,640
You need to do something
different.

616
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,080
You need to go to something
different.

617
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:26,120
You don't wait till you're down
14 before you start, you know,

618
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,120
dialing stuff up because that
that's what happened.

619
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:34,480
Yes, we went down there, we got
a big play to XTB on that

620
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,920
reverse after the big kickoff
return, got it back to a

621
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:39,920
touchdown.
But then we didn't see the ball

622
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,920
for like the next 10 minutes
because they had a long drive.

623
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,680
Scored before half came out,
scored again to open the half on

624
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:51,120
like a 7 minute drive.
So I mean it, it was, it was a

625
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,960
long time before we saw the ball
again and we were down 21 by the

626
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:58,800
time we did what you got.
Tally, hey, similar to what we

627
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,800
talked about.
You know, in some of the other

628
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,880
games it's like the coaching
staff looks at the team and they

629
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,640
go, yeah, it's going to be a
rough one for us.

630
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,120
Let's see what happens and you
know, we'll go from there, you

631
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,760
know, pick our spots and things.
Like when you play on a team and

632
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,719
you're not.
I know we were favorites, but

633
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,080
North Carolina State was the
better team to me, I mean.

634
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,040
We essentially had the home
hook.

635
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:23,320
I mean, it was a.
It was a pickle.

636
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,120
Yeah, it was a.
Pickle, to me it's like when you

637
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,199
look at stuff like that, you got
to come out swinging, man.

638
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,040
You know what I'm saying?
You got to take some shots.

639
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,000
You got to hope some good stuff
happens.

640
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,880
You got to send some people, got
to blitz some people and and and

641
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,320
if they beat you, they beat you.
You lose it anyway.

642
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,320
You know when you're playing the
top team.

643
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:46,560
So I just think, Curtis said
before we got on, when you get

644
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,159
young coordinators, they're like
super conservative or they're

645
00:34:50,159 --> 00:34:56,000
super like risky.
You got to be a good mix of both

646
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,760
and figure out what team you
have to figure out what works

647
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,000
for you.
But both of our coordinators are

648
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:05,400
like super conservative.
It's like that stick is so far

649
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:10,320
in their ass.
You can open their mouth and and

650
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,160
and thump it, you know what I'm
saying?

651
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,520
I don't know man.
You got to, you got to do some

652
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,400
stuff different.
But again depending on who we

653
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,800
play to, we play.
They call the, they call the

654
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,640
games different.
So it's true.

655
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,800
But you've also and that's where
I like what y'all are saying

656
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,360
here.
Because you've seen those games

657
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:31,120
where we didn't divert from the
plan and the next thing you know

658
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,960
the next drive 4 plays
touchdown, right?

659
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,480
And then the drive after that we
drive deep, get a field goal,

660
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,000
then the next one we get on plus
side we punt and put them inside

661
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,320
of 10.
It feels like to me it's like

662
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,000
they have this whole of I know
it's eventually going to work.

663
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,320
I know it's eventually going to
work until coach probably goes

664
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,120
beat.
This shit ain't working.

665
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:58,360
Do something different OK click.
The other part I want to say is,

666
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:02,040
and y'all, maybe it's my eyes
deceiving me and and y'all can

667
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,640
disagree.
I felt like NC State had some of

668
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:11,000
our plays absolutely pegged,
pegged.

669
00:36:11,240 --> 00:36:13,960
The XTB play that was like a
what was it?

670
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,400
A toss toss.
It was like a toss left right

671
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,440
and they reversed it.
Watch how they float like, oh,

672
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,480
we know exactly what they're
doing and when you pivoted.

673
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,040
Nobody was.
I mean, they're a well coached

674
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:27,960
defense.
I mean, you expect that from a

675
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,920
well coached defense.
And that's exactly what they

676
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:30,760
got.
I mean.

677
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:33,840
You know you look at what Wilson
was doing.

678
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,240
I mean he was all over the damn
place.

679
00:36:35,240 --> 00:36:37,640
I mean he was even on that play
that you were talking about.

680
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,240
He was, he was, he was almost
walking down.

681
00:36:40,240 --> 00:36:43,520
XTBI mean he was the second
fastest player on the field on

682
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:47,400
that play.
So I mean it it's it's

683
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:51,720
frustrating because you feel
like when this team does have

684
00:36:51,720 --> 00:36:55,960
some early, early success, the
coordinator has shown that he's

685
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,360
he's he'll let his nuts hang a
little bit, but when it doesn't

686
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,480
work out the gate.
It takes a little bit too long

687
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,680
to move on to something
different.

688
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,840
I mean, you don't have to
wholesale abandoned your game

689
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,080
plan to throw in a handful of
new wrinkles to give them

690
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,280
something different to look at
and something different to worry

691
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,160
about.
And I'll, I'll go ahead and

692
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:17,960
mention it here since it's on
the screen there.

693
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,640
Rex Parker said two to three
touches were two.

694
00:37:20,720 --> 00:37:23,400
Big mistake.
Again, I know some of that was

695
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,920
dictated by the game plan, but
you still got to get, you know,

696
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,880
one of your three or four best
players on the field involved in

697
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:29,960
the offensive game.
Plan.

698
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,240
You got to get him the ball.
You know, if it's nothing, but

699
00:37:33,240 --> 00:37:36,520
just for him to have some
confidence for the next game,

700
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,040
you got to get him the ball.
You got to attempt to get

701
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,240
involved, Sheldon.
Let me ask this though, because

702
00:37:41,240 --> 00:37:44,120
it wasn't a huge sample size,
but how bad were the run grades

703
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:48,040
for the offensive line?
Yeah, So we can go through them.

704
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,360
Obviously we didn't run much
like you, said Parker.

705
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,760
Clements was the best, actually,
surprisingly enough at 68 and

706
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,440
then around average you got
Berlin Morgue around 63.

707
00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:00,320
Xavier Chaplin's 60, so those
are those are the passing grades

708
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:04,320
and then below that Brody
Meadows was not great at 50.5

709
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,160
and then last was Kayden Moore
at about 50.

710
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,200
So kind of some some up and down
there.

711
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,680
I thought it was going to be a
lot worse, but maybe that small

712
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:19,640
sample size saved them.
But we again, it's the up and

713
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,720
downs and I had someone reach
out to me and got to make a

714
00:38:22,720 --> 00:38:26,240
change and I was like and I made
the point.

715
00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:31,680
On the offensive line you have 3
freshmen getting massive play

716
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,440
time, right?
Massive.

717
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,000
You have a guy switching
positions and we've I know we've

718
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,080
mentioned this before y'all
y'all y'all heard this from us

719
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:45,440
before and there are two guys
that at best should be your

720
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,920
depth pieces not frontline
starters.

721
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:53,520
That's just the truth.
And and and now that they are

722
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:58,840
much older, it's like if if we
do not, I will be disappointed

723
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,280
in this staff.
If we do not go out and get at

724
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:05,600
least one, I'd prefer two
offensive lineman in the portal

725
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,480
once it opens up in this.
Yeah, you need to, but I get

726
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,040
what you're saying.
You need to.

727
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,600
We need to all right.
Excuse me.

728
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:15,760
Don't die, man.
Don't die.

729
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,400
I don't air.
I don't know what happened.

730
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,040
All right, so anything happened
Saturday, Y'all were not

731
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,640
prepared for.
I'll kick it over to Segla

732
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:30,600
first.
I'd say I just our general

733
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,920
inability to stop that offense
consistently, I thought we would

734
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:37,840
have no problem, especially in
the passing game kind of slowing

735
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,440
them down a little bit and they
kind of did whatever they want

736
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,520
to most of the game until they
got into that.

737
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:47,240
Protect the lead type offense
there in the late 3rd, early

738
00:39:47,240 --> 00:39:50,280
fourth quarter.
All right, Tyler, what about

739
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,760
you?
Brendan Armstrong turned into

740
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:56,920
Cam Newton, what we had him
looking like, just letting him

741
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,560
fall forward, do what he want,
do backflips, put his hand in

742
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,840
his ass, throwing it down.
He just did whatever he want to

743
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:04,160
do.
Our defense.

744
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:05,600
Nobody hit nobody.
Nobody.

745
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:10,280
I mean, it's just a bad showing,
you know, We just, I guess to

746
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,600
sit.
To sum it up, we didn't quit,

747
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,120
which is good.
Well, we talked about it in the

748
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,440
beginning, but.
I don't feel like we had fight,

749
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,880
you know.
I don't feel like we had the

750
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:26,720
fight that we normally have.
It's like we were defeated.

751
00:40:26,720 --> 00:40:29,760
As soon as they punched us in
the mouth, you know, Peyton

752
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,040
Wilson was talking shit, you
know, But you didn't have too

753
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,800
many people saying nothing back,
you know, It's just, oh, shit,

754
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,480
he good.
We can't fuck with him.

755
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,680
Oh, you got to hit that
motherfucker, just like you hit

756
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,320
everybody else.
But we didn't see that.

757
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,720
We didn't see that Saturday, so
we'll see.

758
00:40:45,240 --> 00:40:49,440
Sheldon, what about you?
Yeah, I was most surprised,

759
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,560
disappointed with how poorly
they stopped Brendan Armstrong

760
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,520
running the football.
I know he's a good runner.

761
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,680
I don't mean to take anything
away from him, but his running

762
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,160
numbers are down for the
previous years and I thought

763
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,400
that Tech did a fantastic job
defending the run against Scared

764
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,120
Trade or against Syracuse and
also Cassillon's with BC.

765
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,240
So it was definitely a surprise
that that they struggled so much

766
00:41:08,240 --> 00:41:10,600
when they when they had success
against other quarterbacks.

767
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,080
Find what you got.
You got something on top of the

768
00:41:13,240 --> 00:41:15,480
tally there?
Yeah, I was just, I was

769
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,840
frustrated in general with, you
know, we said it at the at the

770
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,320
Open, like that was the closest
blowout I've ever seen.

771
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,920
It was.
And it was frustrating because

772
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,840
like Tally said, we got punched
in the mouth early and it took

773
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:33,960
us way too long to take that
shit seriously.

774
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,880
And I felt like it was really
the fourth quarter.

775
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:39,800
There was some fight in the
fourth quarter where I felt like

776
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,880
we really started punching back
a little bit.

777
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,040
Right.
But it just took too long to get

778
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,960
to that point and.
I'm going to go hold on.

779
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,520
I'm going to go with Andretti.
Nailed it here.

780
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,840
Because that is coaching.
Yeah, to get you guys up to do

781
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,680
it.
I will say that it's coaching to

782
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,680
get you guys up to do it.
But I also will say coming from

783
00:41:59,240 --> 00:42:03,680
a player who's played and then
watching my son, you can coach

784
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,960
a, you can coach a kid as much
as you want.

785
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,480
You can get them hyped during
the when they get in the game

786
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:14,000
and somebody hits them and they
stand over them and they don't

787
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,120
get up and push them off or
their teammates don't come over

788
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,120
and help them get up.
That's on the, that's on the

789
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,200
players.
Now the coach might go back and

790
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,480
evaluate for him and be like,
hey, when your when your

791
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,680
quarterback's down the line you
got to go pick him up.

792
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,160
You know, that should already be
instilled in you.

793
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:33,960
But it's like some games we just
we get, we don't, we get in some

794
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,960
kind of mold and we don't think
about that stuff.

795
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,440
You know what I'm saying?
It's like, you know, somebody

796
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,840
hits you and they they they flex
over you.

797
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:45,200
Nobody comes up to to to help
the guy up or push the guy off

798
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:49,160
or you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, I don't think we have

799
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,800
enough dogs in the in the
trenches on offense.

800
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,000
You got to have some heart.
You got to have some heart

801
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,480
yourself, so. 100% hundred
percent.

802
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,280
But I do agree, Andrea, it is
coaching it.

803
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:00,840
Is coaching on that the one
thing I'm going to say?

804
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,440
I was not prepared for.
I was not prepared for this

805
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,720
game, getting over 60 combined
points.

806
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:12,480
If you tell me we lost a game
and it was 20 to 27 or 2128 or

807
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:17,080
something lower, this game
getting to 63 points just blew

808
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:22,360
my mind because the way both
defenses have played coming into

809
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:26,480
it and then how both offensive
run offenses are ran.

810
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:31,800
All right, y'all, it's only one
week left, So what can we do

811
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,640
better?
Beat the shit out of UVA.

812
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:38,640
That's it.
That's all you got to do?

813
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:43,720
You got You got one more game in
front of you for a chance to

814
00:43:43,720 --> 00:43:49,280
play a bowl game against your
rival at Lane Stadium.

815
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:53,720
N there is no damn excuse to
drop this one.

816
00:43:53,720 --> 00:43:55,560
This is not a good football
team.

817
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,640
We're about to talk about them
after we get up and get back

818
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,440
from the break here.
Go handle your business.

819
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,720
Yeah, it's Rivalry week.
Did I say that right?

820
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:07,440
You got it.
You said it.

821
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,520
Robbery week.
Yeah, it's robbery week.

822
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:11,920
You got to go play, man.
You got to throw.

823
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,720
You throw out the records, You
throw out the stats.

824
00:44:15,720 --> 00:44:18,520
You throw out what everybody's
done the rest of the year and

825
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,840
you just got to go play.
I mean, that's what you can do

826
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,960
better this week.
Whatever ritual you got to have.

827
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,400
Wake them up at 5:00, throw
water on them.

828
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:30,480
Tar and feather.
I don't know what you need to do

829
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:34,000
to get hyped, but I do know
they've already made some

830
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,640
comments about how they going to
beat you when they beat you.

831
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:41,320
They're going to be back on the
national stage to beat a fucking

832
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:46,680
5 and 16 whatever.
But anyway, you got to go and

833
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:48,520
you got to win.
That's what you got to do.

834
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,600
Because you really do need that
bowl game and you do need those

835
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:55,160
extra practices and you need to
you need to be able to recruit

836
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,480
and tell people that hey, we're
missing one piece, we're missing

837
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,720
2 pieces.
We bring you in.

838
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:06,440
We go from a bowl team to hell.
You could be a playoff team.

839
00:45:06,720 --> 00:45:09,400
I ain't saying we're a playoff
team, but look at Louisville

840
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:11,800
next year.
Maybe the playoff team.

841
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,680
Yeah, 12 teams.
Sheldon, you got anything?

842
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,880
No, look, just win is a win,
man.

843
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:22,480
I mean, I don't I expected to be
a dogfight this Saturday and if

844
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,040
they come out on top, that's all
I care about.

845
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:28,080
So just go into go into the
offseason with some momentum,

846
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,360
some good mojo and.
And and you'll we'll feel a lot

847
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,600
better about about this, this
whole pride thing we get AW,

848
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:36,480
this Saturday.
You're absolutely right.

849
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:40,200
To me it's when it is all that
matters and with saying that we

850
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,040
are going to take a quick pause
from our digital partners and

851
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,680
Main Street Pharmacy.
I can probably save you a lot of

852
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,640
money and I can take a lot
better care of you.

853
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,000
That's pretty much it.
My name is Jeremy Counts and I'm

854
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,200
a pharmacist.
I own and operate Main Street

855
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:55,760
Pharmacy here in downtown
Blacksburg.

856
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:57,960
My brother's a pharmacist.
I'm a pharmacist.

857
00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:59,680
My uncle's a pharmacist.
My dad's a pharmacist.

858
00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:02,880
I remember he would give me M
and Ms. to count in little pill

859
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,720
counters.
This is something I've always

860
00:46:04,720 --> 00:46:08,640
done, and I'm just lucky that
what I know so well is something

861
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,120
that I can do and feel good
about it and get back to people.

862
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:13,600
Pharmacies are your frontline
defense.

863
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,840
Pharmacy's job is to make sure
you're getting optimal care for

864
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:20,320
the lowest price possible.
Also, we take the pressure off

865
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,400
of emergency rooms.
I'll tell people immediately

866
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,200
when they need to go to the
doctor, or I'll tell them if

867
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:25,840
they just need a cream over the
counter.

868
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,800
If there's something that isn't
commercially available, if it's

869
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,480
something that's not available
in a certain strength or a

870
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,160
certain form or anything like
that, we'll make it tailor made

871
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:35,920
medications.
Some of those options save

872
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:37,880
people a lot of money.
What motivates me?

873
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,080
I get to take care of people and
limit Blacksburg.

874
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:44,960
That's all neat.
As we take a quick break, we'd

875
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,880
like to tell you about getting
your free website report from

876
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,400
our digital partner, Grassroots
Digital Marketing Student.

877
00:46:50,720 --> 00:46:52,960
They'll tell you how your
website ranks on Google, on

878
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:56,160
site, SEO and social media.
No commitment to buy anything.

879
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,080
You can get your free report by
visiting grassroots

880
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:04,000
digitalstudio.com/free Dash
website Dash Report.

881
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,760
Now back to the episode.
All right and we are back.

882
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,360
And now let's get to go.
It's a little hate week.

883
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:15,480
Know the enemy as we take a look
at the UVA Cavaliers.

884
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:19,480
And we are going to flip to the
offensive side of the football.

885
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:23,720
As always, Brian, I give you the
honor who we got running this

886
00:47:23,720 --> 00:47:27,240
show and what do they do?
Yeah, we got Dez Kitchings

887
00:47:27,240 --> 00:47:31,960
running the show here.
It's a pro, pro spread scheme, a

888
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:36,320
lot of wide zone rushing
concepts, likes the deep ball a

889
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,200
lot.
You'll see play action very

890
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,560
frequently as well, and they
score most of their points in

891
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,600
the first quarter actually when
you look at.

892
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,840
This team, they've done very
well kind of out the gate their

893
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:52,080
first one or two drives and then
slowed down a whole bunch after

894
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,000
that.
So that's something to watch

895
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:56,880
for.
Obviously with with some of the

896
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:00,200
up and down starts we've had
either slow starts or quick

897
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,280
starts and not really a whole
lot of steady Eddie, so that'll

898
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:04,440
be something to pay attention
to.

899
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,560
All righty.
Sheldon, you got anything on

900
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:10,840
Anything?
This offense does good.

901
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,600
I mean.
Yeah, they've got really good

902
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,040
wide receivers.
I'll see.

903
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,080
We'll talk about, you know,
Malik Washington and knockout

904
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:23,520
fields very shortly.
But I think it's an offense

905
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,360
overall that's struggled for the
majority of the season.

906
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,200
So that's why some of the
metrics are so bad.

907
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,880
But you do have to sort of use
the eye test and look what

908
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:32,000
they've been doing in previous
weeks.

909
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,680
And look at Duke last week, they
averaged about 6.3 yards for

910
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,200
play, which was pretty
impressive, put up 30 points.

911
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,280
So it's.
It's a team that has misleading

912
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:42,560
stats.
I think they have gotten

913
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,960
significantly better over the
past couple weeks.

914
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:47,200
All right, some misleading
stats.

915
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:48,920
And you already mentioned the
first guy we're going to talk

916
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:56,520
about here today, and that is
Malik Washington, A beast, 5

917
00:48:56,520 --> 00:49:00,560
foot nine, about 190 lbs.
He was a transfer guy from

918
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,160
Northwestern after everything
that went up there when he

919
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,280
originally came out of high
school, Parkview High School,

920
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,960
Lilburn, GA, Class of 2019.
He was ranked in an 86.

921
00:49:10,240 --> 00:49:13,160
And now at his time, while he
was up at Northwestern, he did

922
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:18,680
have two solid production
seasons there, both 20, excuse

923
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:25,040
me, both 2021 and 2022 combined
for 109 receptions with a little

924
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:29,280
over 1200 yards there.
But this season he is absolutely

925
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:35,080
blown up. 96 receptions, 13111
yards, 9 touchdowns.

926
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,840
Brian What does he bring to the
table?

927
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:40,360
Yeah, he's kind of an all around
slot guy.

928
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,080
He's a deep threat and a yak
threat.

929
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,080
They like to use him a lot of
the screen game, quick pass

930
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,520
game, but also they'll throw the
ball deep to him.

931
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,960
Very elusive in the open field.
Definitely their biggest

932
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:55,960
offensive threat by a mile.
All right, and Shelton, let's

933
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,840
get a little bit of grades on
Malik Washington's because I

934
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:02,120
believe, if I'm not mistaken, he
is a balletical semifinalist.

935
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,200
Yep, he is really, really good.
So.

936
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,880
Highest graded wide receiver in
the ACC at 91.2, which is

937
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,320
insane.
He has the highest reception

938
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,040
percentage, so that's percentage
of targets.

939
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:16,440
He catches the highest yards per
route run, most yards after

940
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:20,080
catch, most first downs, all
ACC, and he does not have a

941
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,720
single drop the entire season.
So that's his, that's his body

942
00:50:23,720 --> 00:50:25,880
of work.
He is a he is a exceptional

943
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,000
whiteout.
Tally, what does he catch your

944
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:29,920
eye with 'cause you?
Said Beast as soon as I dropped

945
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:31,920
his name.
Just good, man.

946
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,440
He's tough.
He's not very big, but he's just

947
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:38,840
he looks like a running back.
You know like he's he's he's got

948
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,280
a little bit of weight to him.
When he gets the ball like you

949
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:44,320
said, y'all stop to catch like
he makes people miss.

950
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,200
He's tough.
He continues to run.

951
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,480
He's not going down with one
hit.

952
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:54,760
So those D BS got the, I mean
we've talked about is our

953
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:58,400
secondary good or you know, our
secondary stats may be

954
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,960
misleading or not.
You know, there's been of

955
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,200
arguments about that.
So they'll have their chance to

956
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:07,520
see, because whoever's lined up
against him, that motherfucker's

957
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:09,720
coming for.
You hell, we've argued about it

958
00:51:09,720 --> 00:51:13,320
on here man.
And like, you know, like you

959
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,120
said, I mean he, he finishes
runs.

960
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:18,880
He kind of reminds me of like
unfortunately kind of a little

961
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:23,600
bit of you know conception last
week except you know he's deep

962
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:25,040
into his college career at this
point.

963
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,600
So he's a, he's a developed
player whereas Concepcion still

964
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,200
a freshman and.
Kind of get his his legs under

965
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,560
him here a little bit.
By the way, y'all know his You

966
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,040
don't have any times he's been
held under 100 this year,

967
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,320
probably 1.
Twice.

968
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:43,280
One was 97, the other was the
opening game against Tennessee,

969
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:47,680
and he only had 29 yards.
So definitely a beast there.

970
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:51,320
And as is the other opposite of
him.

971
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:58,160
And that's, excuse me, that's
Malachi Fields. 6 foot four, 220

972
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:02,080
lbs.
Came out of Monticello High

973
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:06,720
School in Charlottesville.
Stay at home, baby. 8

974
00:52:06,720 --> 00:52:11,160
Legitimately, I mean it might be
6 miles between the high school

975
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:16,120
and where UVA is.
He was a deposit 82 coming out

976
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,120
just 48th in the state of
Virginia.

977
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:22,560
So obviously he has developed
pretty well and so far the

978
00:52:22,720 --> 00:52:25,760
season he does not quite have
the stats.

979
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:33,480
That his buddy has but 52
catches, 722 yards, 3 touchdown

980
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,240
run.
Let's call the only six boys

981
00:52:36,240 --> 00:52:37,680
220.
I think his game's a little bit

982
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:42,120
different than Mr. Washington.
Yeah, I mean he's a little bit

983
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:47,200
more one-dimensional than than.
Malik is primarily a deep

984
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,760
threat.
Most of those routes are ran

985
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,080
past the 15 yards, but he he
will also.

986
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,280
They'll hit him on some of the
short stuff, like the the quick

987
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,320
hitters.
They'll also go with like, you

988
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:00,120
know, the hooks and curls to
kind of move the sticks with

989
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:01,640
him.
So he's kind of a guy that is

990
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:03,960
going to catch the short stuff
and kind of do The Dirty work

991
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,280
outside or they're going to send
him deep.

992
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:11,600
All right, now Sheldon, there's
no possible way he can grade as

993
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,760
good as Washington, but I've got
a feeling just looking at his

994
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,320
data points and look at some of
the statistics, he doesn't

995
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:21,000
probably grade too shabby.
No, it's pretty solid. 15th

996
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:25,680
highest created ACC wideout
yards per catch pretty OK at

997
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:30,600
Brown 13.9 He's not a big yards
after catch guy and he's also

998
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:34,560
not as sure handed as as
Washington is only about a 58%

999
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:37,880
catch rate and also lower lower
passing red and went targeted.

1000
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:41,240
But the main reason for that, if
you want context, is that he has

1001
00:53:41,240 --> 00:53:45,760
a very high depth of targets, so
about 14.6 yards is how deep

1002
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,720
he's targeted.
So obviously more, more deep

1003
00:53:48,720 --> 00:53:50,200
balls, obviously harder to
catch.

1004
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,320
So that kind of explains the
contacts of the members, but

1005
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,440
still a very a very good pass
catcher.

1006
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,720
Hey, Tally, two things.
Anything on this guy?

1007
00:53:58,720 --> 00:54:00,040
And then I just sent you a
message.

1008
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,480
Quick, a quick look at it on our
screen here.

1009
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:04,080
But you got anything on this
guy?

1010
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,720
Did you get to watch him or see
any highlights from him like you

1011
00:54:06,720 --> 00:54:11,000
did Malik?
Yeah, he's just, he's just a big

1012
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,360
wide receiver man.
He's a you kind of a match up

1013
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:17,320
nightmare when you start looking
at his size like you said he can

1014
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:22,680
move the change for you.
Good downfield receiver, he's

1015
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:27,000
he's shown it by the yards that
he has, but once again comes

1016
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:28,960
down to our defense.
You know, they played some good

1017
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:32,240
defenses, they played some good
players, but you know, we'll see

1018
00:54:32,240 --> 00:54:34,320
what our, what our secondary can
do.

1019
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,560
Yeah, we'll see how the
secondary can do and we're going

1020
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:39,360
to talk about a few more
offensive players than we

1021
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,200
normally do this week.
Y'all because the next guy I

1022
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,600
want to talk about is I do want
to talk about the quarterback

1023
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:53,000
and that is Anthony Calandre, A6
foot, 200 LB quarterback out of

1024
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,640
Lakewood High School in St.
Petersburg, FL.

1025
00:54:55,640 --> 00:55:00,000
A consensus 84 when he came out
back in the class of 2023.

1026
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,520
So he is a true freshman.
He has played a lot, the red

1027
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,680
shirts already gone from him.
Not a lot of crazy offers.

1028
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:08,280
Middle Tennessee.
Buffalo.

1029
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:11,240
So not a highly touted guy
coming back.

1030
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:15,360
Probably his next best offer was
probably Kentucky, but we don't

1031
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,520
know how committable offers are.
So far this season he's played

1032
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:26,280
in seven games, and in those
seven games we have 17115 yards

1033
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:31,680
at about 62% completion
percentage, 11 touchdowns, 8

1034
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,120
interceptions.
Also two fumbles lost.

1035
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:38,320
LeBron, What's he showing on the
tape there?

1036
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,840
Yeah, he's kind of a past first
dual threat guy.

1037
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,600
He's got enough wiggle to be
dangerous, but he's not like

1038
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:48,840
elite in that category.
Great accuracy on deep balls,

1039
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:50,520
that's what he likes to throw
the most.

1040
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,800
Really good at maneuvering in
the pocket to buy time.

1041
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:58,760
Just average to mid, you know,
when it comes to reading in the

1042
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,040
intermediate area of the
defense, especially over the

1043
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,920
middle.
Generally looking to drive the

1044
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:05,680
ball down field or check it
down.

1045
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:07,720
He's not hitting a lot of those
intermediate targets

1046
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:11,680
consistently and he will throw
some picks as you alluded to

1047
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:15,240
there with the with the 11 to 8
ratio he'll he'll let the ball

1048
00:56:15,240 --> 00:56:17,240
go to the defense.
So, so that's an opportunity we

1049
00:56:17,240 --> 00:56:19,880
have to get some turnovers and
get some points on the board.

1050
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,880
All righty.
Tally.

1051
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:25,840
Were you able to find it?
Yeah.

1052
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:32,560
So, as reported by Mike Barber,
UV as quarterback says quote

1053
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:36,360
after the game versus Tech.
After we beat Virginia Tech,

1054
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:40,120
this program is going to shoot
up and everybody in the country

1055
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:42,320
is going to know about us, UN
quote.

1056
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:44,920
Any comment on that, Mister
Talley?

1057
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:50,880
For a team that's three and
eight, hey man, he trying to he

1058
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:54,320
trying to let his nuts hang, you
know, he got, he got his rival

1059
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:57,120
coming to his house.
He's feeling good coming off of

1060
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:00,160
his third win of the season.
I'll probably be talking some

1061
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:06,360
shit too you know but you got to
be hey, TI said it best don't

1062
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,640
let your mouth write a check
your ass can't cash.

1063
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,880
So we going to see we going to
see what this defense going to

1064
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:15,680
do.
The last thing I would do as a

1065
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:20,240
as a three win team is try to
add fuel to you know the other

1066
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:23,360
team fire but.
He's LED this nut thing, but

1067
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,440
he's LED this nut thing that,
you know, if if they beat A5,

1068
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,640
win Virginia Tech, they're all
of a sudden the national.

1069
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,720
A A-Team to watch on a national
stage that that's kind of a

1070
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:37,720
that's an odd flex, but you know
a freshman flex a.

1071
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:41,160
Freshman flex day, yeah.
You know what I got?

1072
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,600
I got in trouble with one of
those against Bridgewater too.

1073
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:45,240
So back in the day.
So I'm not going to let.

1074
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,320
I'm not going to get it get down
on him too much all.

1075
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:50,560
Right.
Sheldon, anything on Calandra

1076
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:52,920
that you noticed stat wise
anything like that?

1077
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:56,400
He really struggles a lot when
he's blitz.

1078
00:57:56,600 --> 00:58:01,000
I also found in terms of average
time to throw about 2.7 seconds

1079
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,760
which is middle of the pack.
He's very good when he has at

1080
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:07,160
least 2.5 seconds to throw,
which is where the PFF makes the

1081
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:10,160
cut off, but struggles a lot
with less than 2.5 seconds.

1082
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:13,320
Now some of those splits can be,
you know, not exactly what you

1083
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:14,680
think.
Sometimes a guy might have a

1084
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:18,000
better passer rating when he has
less time to throw because if

1085
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,040
that's what the offense demands,
like you know you get the ball

1086
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:23,240
out quickly, but in UV as case
they need more time to throw

1087
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:25,360
because they are.
A little bit more reliant on

1088
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,040
deep balls, and obviously those
routes take longer to develop.

1089
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:33,760
So when he has at least 2.5
seconds, about 17 yards, average

1090
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:37,400
depth of target, and when he's
less than 2.5 seconds to throw,

1091
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:40,920
he's run for interceptions.
So bottom line, and we'll talk

1092
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:44,120
about this in our keys to the
game, Get to the quarterback A.

1093
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:48,040
100% get to the quarterback.
All right, we're going to talk

1094
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:50,960
about one more guy here, Brian.
We're going to talk about Kobe

1095
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:55,080
Pace.
Running back 5 foot 10215 lbs

1096
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:59,040
Cedartown, GA came out 247 as a
three star.

1097
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:01,800
One of the top 35 running backs
in the country when he came out

1098
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:04,360
last year.
Again this is another true

1099
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:08,480
freshman in this case and if you
take a look at his sort of

1100
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,320
profile recruiting, he went to
Clemson first.

1101
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,320
He was in Clemson, excuse me, as
a transfer.

1102
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:16,320
So he is a third year player
here.

1103
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:18,720
Had a lot of good offers coming
out of high school.

1104
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:22,520
I'm seeing on here Auburn, we're
seeing Duke, we're seeing some

1105
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:25,440
interest from Georgia Tech,
Michigan, Nebraska, NC State.

1106
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,440
So he was definitely one of
those players that a lot of

1107
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:32,520
people pegged And so far this
season, solid season so far,

1108
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:37,240
well, maybe not solid, kind of
like 368 yards, only one

1109
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:40,760
touchdown, less than 3 1/2 per
carry.

1110
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:43,960
And Brian, you've already
mentioned a little bit about him

1111
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:46,440
earlier, but let's let's just
break it down.

1112
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:50,040
Yeah man, Much like your boy
hits the whole hard, runs

1113
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:55,400
through arm tackles, he finishes
the run strong.

1114
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:58,320
He's not as effective outside
the tackles as he is between the

1115
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:00,560
tackles.
I think Curtis is freezing up on

1116
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:02,880
us here again there, So we
caught a little bit of this

1117
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:08,320
before we went live, so ignore
the the, the awkward freeze

1118
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:12,040
frame here.
But yeah, pace is not a home run

1119
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:13,120
threat.
He's not a guy that's going to

1120
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:17,720
get a ton of yards.
As he's as he's running there

1121
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:20,560
he's more of a guy that's going
to kind of get those gashes here

1122
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:23,880
and there move the sticks get
that kind of you know good five

1123
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:27,200
or six yards on 1st down.
But but he's not a guy that's

1124
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:30,200
going to be a home run threat.
But the way they are able to hit

1125
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:32,720
the the home run threat to the
passing game he's really a good

1126
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:37,200
compliment for what they're
doing right now and and I'll

1127
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:40,400
just kind of go ahead and pivot
since Curtis is is is is Mia

1128
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:43,680
here let's go ahead and talk
about the offensive line because

1129
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:48,160
that that's always what we are
we are offensive line podcast

1130
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:50,720
here so we got we got to talk
about the offensive line and

1131
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:55,920
overall this is a bad unit guys
it's really hard to even say

1132
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:57,400
what they struggle with the
most.

1133
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:02,040
When I look at it on tape,
rushing attack is is good enough

1134
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:05,080
at times to complement the deep
ball, especially with pace in

1135
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:08,320
there because he can kind of get
some of those extra yards when

1136
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:10,880
he's dragging defenders and
things like that.

1137
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:14,400
But they go for long stretches
where the running game kind of

1138
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:17,440
can get stale on them and that
that hurts their passing game.

1139
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:19,640
And they also surrender a lot of
sacks.

1140
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:22,480
So really there's no good metric
for them.

1141
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:25,760
I mean, I can let Sheldon talk
about their their numbers a

1142
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:28,160
little bit here, but just
looking at them on tape, they're

1143
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:31,880
not really good or stand out in
any one area.

1144
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:35,080
We need to find who that Parker
Clemens is and attack that

1145
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:38,080
motherfucker, whoever he is.
Go in here.

1146
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:41,480
Yeah, for sure.
Well you mentioned the running

1147
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:44,680
backs their their running back
explosive play numbers are

1148
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:47,880
pretty bad.
I mean I know that you know pace

1149
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:50,040
and and Hollands are you know at
the bottom of the barrel in

1150
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,400
terms of you know generating big
plays in the running game.

1151
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:54,640
Now some of that of course you
know obviously the offensive

1152
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:56,800
line.
So you know just digging into

1153
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,680
some of their numbers, pass
protection, it's been really,

1154
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:01,800
really bad for UVA.
So they have the second worst

1155
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:04,560
pass block efficiency grade in
the ACC.

1156
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:08,320
They leave the ACC and sacks and
total pressures allowed.

1157
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:12,560
So UVA is you know, they they
don't throw the ball necessarily

1158
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:13,880
a huge amount.
It's probably middle of the

1159
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:15,480
pack.
But the fact that they're

1160
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:18,160
getting up so many pressures,
with that being said is is

1161
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:20,520
pretty is a is a pretty bad sign
for them.

1162
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:22,640
So they just they haven't been
able to do anything on the

1163
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:24,120
ground.
They have not been able to

1164
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:26,960
protect the quarterback and you
know, as you can see it's a it's

1165
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:31,200
a struggling offense.
Yeah, I mean they definitely

1166
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:33,560
struggled just watching them.
It's been very up and down.

1167
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:36,520
Even in the Duke game where they
had some stand up moments on

1168
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:38,640
offense, they would have
stretches where they just

1169
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:41,600
struggled to move the ball.
So it's going to be interesting

1170
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:45,400
to see, you know, if we can come
out and set the tone a little

1171
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:48,400
bit defensively and kind of get
them out of what they like to do

1172
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:50,400
and what they do well.
And if we're bringing bringing

1173
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:52,840
those pressures, like like
Sheldon alluded to, if we're if

1174
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:56,160
we're blitzing them, if we're
getting to them quickly with our

1175
01:02:56,160 --> 01:03:01,920
edge rushers, how much of a long
day it can be for for AC there.

1176
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:05,840
Let's go ahead and flip over to
the defensive side here.

1177
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:11,240
You know, this is a John
Rozinski defense hybrid,

1178
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:15,040
multiple front scheme.
Curtis is back in the building

1179
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:16,760
here.
Hey, we made it to defense

1180
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:19,440
without you, man.
Good job guys.

1181
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:23,280
Teamwork there, there we go.
So as I was saying, this is a

1182
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:28,160
hybrid multiple front scheme
predicated on stopping the run.

1183
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:31,080
They bring a lot of different
looks and pressures.

1184
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:34,440
They're pretty solid on 1st and
2nd down.

1185
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:37,160
They struggle a lot on 3rd down,
not not a lot of sacks either.

1186
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:39,120
They don't get after the
quarterback very well.

1187
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:42,160
So that's kind of what you can
expect from the defensive side.

1188
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:45,280
From a scheme perspective,
Sheldon, I don't know if you

1189
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:48,400
have any any statistics on them
that you want to bring in before

1190
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:51,040
we move on to the players here.
Yeah.

1191
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:54,440
So just a couple, I know Curtis
asked about their their dements

1192
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:57,080
of line metrics.
So it's been pretty rough this

1193
01:03:57,080 --> 01:04:01,000
year they are 121st nationally
and success rate against so

1194
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:04,760
right around 46% and their
running game, their run defense

1195
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:07,160
has actually been worse 125th
and success rate.

1196
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:11,280
So you know they they let up 27
against against Duke.

1197
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:14,760
I mean it just, you know, it's
again it's it's a team that's

1198
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:17,320
been up and down, they've been
playing a little bit better.

1199
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:20,160
You know, they gave up 45 points
to Georgia Tech and then had an

1200
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:21,880
OK performance against
Louisville, who obviously has a

1201
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:24,360
really good offense.
So it's just a question of what

1202
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:27,120
what UVA team do you get, But
certainly the season metrics

1203
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:30,400
would tell you that this is a a
a defense and a run defense in

1204
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:31,960
particular that has really
struggled all.

1205
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:35,600
Righty.
And when I hear something like

1206
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:38,680
that and I take a look at the
leading tackler, and that's the

1207
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:40,760
first guy we're going to talk
about, it's Jonas Sanker.

1208
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:47,240
Jonas Sanker 6 foot, 190 LB
Safety for this team. 97

1209
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:52,160
tackles, 3 tackles for loss, no
picks, 10 pass deflections and

1210
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:54,280
several forced fumbles out
there.

1211
01:04:54,800 --> 01:05:01,440
When he came out in the class of
2021, another one who stayed

1212
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:04,760
home, he went to the Covenant
School that might be 10 miles

1213
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:08,520
from UVA's campus.
He was ranked as an 85 to 33rd

1214
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:10,400
best player in Virginia.
Other interests?

1215
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:16,480
Boston College, Air Force.
In Ohio with a few other looks

1216
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:19,480
from FCS school, so not the
biggest one there.

1217
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:22,720
But Brian, what are you seeing
from him?

1218
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:26,600
Because that is a lot of tackles
for a safety regardless where

1219
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:28,320
they play.
Yeah.

1220
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:30,000
And you know, we, you know, we
talked about it's a hybrid

1221
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:33,760
multiple front.
Their base package is a 425 and

1222
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:38,840
he is a true Rover box safety.
He's in the box a lot.

1223
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:41,840
They like to bring him on run
blitzes and an obvious passing

1224
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:44,760
situation.
So they'll blitz him, you know

1225
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:49,360
1st through 3rd down there, hard
hitter and solid tackler as

1226
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:51,240
evidenced by the force fumbles
there.

1227
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:54,160
He can get turned around in his
own coverage though.

1228
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:56,920
They don't use him a ton in that
capacity.

1229
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:00,760
But I mean he's he's really the
the defensive player that kind

1230
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:04,360
of pops off for them when you
when you watch the tape because

1231
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:06,880
he's a he's a little bit of,
he's all over the place and he's

1232
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:09,520
making some plays.
Hit them up and hit you.

1233
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:12,360
You better hit him.
Don't don't shy away from the

1234
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:14,480
contact.
You got to start early and

1235
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:15,880
often.
You got to go at him and you got

1236
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:19,400
to not be scared so.
Exactly.

1237
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:21,400
Yeah, yeah, definitely somebody
did.

1238
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:24,080
If you can hit him back a little
bit, you can kind of, you know,

1239
01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:27,200
take his game back to him and,
you know, put him on his heels.

1240
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:30,920
All righty.
So again.

1241
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:35,800
It's what Kelly said several
times with Brian mentioned what

1242
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:38,320
we've all talked about.
Don't let him set the tone.

1243
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:42,600
He comes and hits up through the
shoulder into him.

1244
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:45,720
Let him come down with you and
talk to shit as he goes down.

1245
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:48,480
All righty.
So let's talk about the

1246
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:50,600
defensive line next.
As we you know already heard

1247
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:53,920
from Shelton has been some
issues there but one guy that

1248
01:06:53,920 --> 01:07:00,200
kind of stood out to me was and
for Muay class of 2018 was an 84

1249
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:01,920
when he came out.
He is from.

1250
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:04,680
Kapola High School in Kapola,
Hawaii.

1251
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:10,840
He is a long, long way from home
but he is a big boy, 6 foot 2300

1252
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:15,440
and 2 lbs and so far this year
So far for his career.

1253
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:19,080
Solid career so far at UVA has
been there now six years.

1254
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:23,600
Last two years combining for 62
tackles, 12 tackles for the last

1255
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:27,040
five sacks this year.
Not quite the campaign of the

1256
01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:30,880
last two years.
Only 30 tackles, no sacks, 6 1/2

1257
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:34,600
tackles for loss, but one
interesting piece, 3 pass

1258
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:36,440
deflection which is pretty high
on this team.

1259
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:38,040
Tells him he likes to get those
hands up.

1260
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:40,360
Brian what are we seeing with
Aaron?

1261
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:44,400
Yeah, he's he's going to play
that 3 technique in their base

1262
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:48,680
package slide to A4, four eye
when they're showing those three

1263
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:52,680
man fronts with it, which
they'll do on occasion, Probably

1264
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:55,960
their strongest run defender
overall, good with his hands and

1265
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:59,080
sheds blocks pretty well.
They're in the trenches and

1266
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:00,920
he'll push the pocket
occasionally on those drop

1267
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:02,320
backs.
But again, this isn't a team

1268
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:05,520
that gets a ton of sacks, but
he's definitely got the kind of

1269
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:07,480
speed up the quarterbacks timing
a little bit with that.

1270
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:09,400
All right.
Sean, you said you had something

1271
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:11,960
on Aaron here.
Yep.

1272
01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:16,880
So you look at stops on PFF,
which is a tackle considered a

1273
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:21,720
loss of the defense.
Famaoui is 13 ACC with 19 stops

1274
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:24,080
in the season.
So you know his grades aren't

1275
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:26,319
quite a side, but you know he's
going to make, he's going to

1276
01:08:26,319 --> 01:08:27,359
make a lot of big.
Tackles.

1277
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:30,920
All righty, tell anything you
notice on tape with him or

1278
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:32,720
anything you notice just reading
about him or.

1279
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:36,600
Play them every year.
We're kind of familiar with

1280
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:38,520
their players and and how they
play.

1281
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:41,160
He's been there for a while and
he does his job.

1282
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:44,840
You know, not super flashy, but
kind of like Brian says, he's

1283
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:48,479
he's good against the run.
He shares, he shares blockers,

1284
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:52,000
good offensive line.
Got to do some work, man.

1285
01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:54,399
You got to, you got to, you got
to, you got to give us some

1286
01:08:54,399 --> 01:08:56,840
yards.
You know, if they give two in

1287
01:08:56,840 --> 01:09:00,080
some room he can, he'll make
this defense pay.

1288
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:02,160
But they got to, they got to go
get it.

1289
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:06,000
Yeah, big, big thing is getting
those a good first step, getting

1290
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:08,960
your hands on him, making sure
he's not getting your hands

1291
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:12,279
down, getting like a quick
swimmer rip without significant

1292
01:09:12,279 --> 01:09:16,439
contact because that's really
where he makes his hay is using

1293
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:18,520
those hands and kind of getting
away from that blocker real

1294
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:20,680
quick in the snap.
So if you can get get on him,

1295
01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:24,680
engage him a little bit, that'll
slow up what he does best.

1296
01:09:25,359 --> 01:09:28,520
All righty Well let's look the
one more piece on the defense

1297
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:31,279
here and let's take a look at
the linebacker room.

1298
01:09:31,279 --> 01:09:32,920
Got a number of guys to choose
from.

1299
01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:36,279
I I went with the guy that's a
little bit closer to Virginia

1300
01:09:36,279 --> 01:09:39,760
Tech than the other ones and
that was James Jackson the six

1301
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:45,479
foot three, 225 LB linebacker.
I believe he is the will on this

1302
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:50,319
team, 84 when he came out in
2021 with the North Cross High

1303
01:09:50,359 --> 01:09:53,040
School in Roanoke.
I think we're all familiar with

1304
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:57,400
that one and right now I'm
having a really good junior

1305
01:09:57,400 --> 01:09:59,600
season, Red shirt.
Sophomore season, however you

1306
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:04,880
want to say it. 76 tackles, 4
for loss, one pick, one sack, 3

1307
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:07,960
pass deflected as well.
Brian What are we seeing with

1308
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:11,600
James Jackson?
Yeah, I mean, he's he's not

1309
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:14,480
really that guy that's going to
really pop off on tape.

1310
01:10:14,480 --> 01:10:17,840
But what he is, he's a very
disciplined linebacker in the

1311
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:20,480
run game.
He's very few mistakes.

1312
01:10:20,480 --> 01:10:22,240
He's not out of place very
often.

1313
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:26,320
He's not a guy getting blocked
5-10 yards off the line of

1314
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:29,240
scrimmage.
Sheds blockers pretty well.

1315
01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:32,720
Sure.
Tackler, solid when he's in zone

1316
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:35,760
responsibilities.
He does lack some athleticism

1317
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:39,400
for coverage, especially in
those man to man situations, but

1318
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:42,320
he's kind of one of those guys
that's just, you know,

1319
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:44,800
fundamentals and discipline are
pretty good.

1320
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:46,440
So he ends up making a ton of
plays.

1321
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:49,600
All righty, Tally.
Anything on him?

1322
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:52,320
I know, Tally.
You mentioned Robinson, right?

1323
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:55,720
Yeah, Cam Robinson.
Yeah, I know we didn't have him

1324
01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:59,360
down, but you know recruiting
battle that we lost to UVA and

1325
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:03,040
he's a freshman linebacker.
That's just he's a good player.

1326
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:05,040
I think he's got a couple of
sacks on the season.

1327
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:07,400
I mean a couple of picks on the
season.

1328
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:10,560
I don't know about the sacks,
but if you watch him play, he's

1329
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:13,320
just sideline to sideline man.
You know not.

1330
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:16,720
Of course he's a freshman, so
he's not going to be quite as.

1331
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:21,520
A handful, as Peyton Wilson was,
but he's a good linebacker.

1332
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:24,520
You know his time there.
If he stays at UVA, he'll he'll

1333
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:26,560
do some good stuff there because
he's a good ball player.

1334
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:31,160
Yeah, he he's got great
athleticism and you know, he's

1335
01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:34,200
still learning to play the
position at this level.

1336
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:37,480
So he's he's sometimes out of
place, he's sometimes not doing,

1337
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:39,080
you know, everything you want
him to do.

1338
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:44,320
But he does it fast.
He does it at 100 mph and he

1339
01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:46,720
looks the part.
He doesn't look out of place out

1340
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:48,280
there.
So that that's big for a true

1341
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:50,440
freshman.
All righty.

1342
01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:54,040
Boys, let's click it over and
let's talk about the hokey keys

1343
01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:57,000
to this game.
Brian, you got your name up here

1344
01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:58,800
first, so I'm going to let you
kick it off.

1345
01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:02,240
What do we have to do to have
success in this game?

1346
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:05,120
I know it's a broken record, but
we need a fast start on both

1347
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:09,040
sides and I'm talking about at
least a touchdown advantage

1348
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:12,760
after the first quarter.
I said it at the open, they

1349
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:16,840
score a lot of points on their
first two drives, probably like

1350
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:20,680
3030% or something of their
scoring has come on their first

1351
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:24,320
two drives of the game.
So it's a it's a pretty high

1352
01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:27,600
percentage.
If we can slow them down out the

1353
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:30,680
gate and we can get a A score to
ourselves, I'll feel really good

1354
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:32,760
about the way the the game will
go after that.

1355
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:34,720
All righty.
Sheldon, what you got?

1356
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:37,960
Gotta get to the quarterback,
gotta make Calandra

1357
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:39,200
uncomfortable and bring him
down.

1358
01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:44,000
Like I said, UVA is a team that
relies on on deep throws and

1359
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:47,280
when Calandria has time to throw
he is very effective.

1360
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:50,640
So when you get APR cooking, I
need more from him.

1361
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:52,720
I have not seen as much as I
would like over the past few

1362
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:53,440
games.
So.

1363
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:56,080
So get him, get him going and
get some sacks.

1364
01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:58,560
That's that's going to be big
and that's how that just, you

1365
01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:00,400
know, bring pressure.
Trust your quarterbacks.

1366
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:03,120
I think they're going to hold up
well on main coverage and I

1367
01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:05,520
think the Vt is going to have to
outscore UVA this weekend.

1368
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:09,720
Tally, what about you?
Time a possession and don't turn

1369
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:13,360
the ball over.
Do not turn the ball over.

1370
01:13:13,440 --> 01:13:17,560
You win the game.
All righty, I'm, I'm going to go

1371
01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:19,480
with this one right here, he
says.

1372
01:13:19,480 --> 01:13:21,440
Don't turn the ball over.
Force turnovers.

1373
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:24,560
This team is one of the worst in
the country.

1374
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:29,960
They are 116th.
They have 18 turnovers this

1375
01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:33,840
year, total 18.
That's a lot.

1376
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:38,400
That's almost to a game.
We need I I think we can get at

1377
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:41,240
least one pick because I think
there's going to be situations

1378
01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:45,800
because if you look at the data
they do get they they they also

1379
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:47,400
give up a lot of sacks.
They've given up.

1380
01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:50,040
Let me look at this number.
She has 37 sacks this year.

1381
01:13:50,480 --> 01:13:52,440
They've given up a ton of
tackles for loss.

1382
01:13:52,440 --> 01:13:54,520
We're going to put them in bad
situations.

1383
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:56,800
Colin's going to throw at least
one pick.

1384
01:13:57,640 --> 01:13:59,680
I think 2:00.
We could probably run away with

1385
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:01,680
the game.
But if we only get one, it's

1386
01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:04,240
going to be tight, and I can
definitely foresee one based on

1387
01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:07,320
how he plays.
Also, he likes to talk shit, so

1388
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:09,760
he's probably going to challenge
somebody and get his ass perked.

1389
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:13,160
Don't bail them out on those
third and longs though.

1390
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:16,120
No, do not bail them out.
Yeah, do not bail.

1391
01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:19,080
All right, Well, it's time for
predictions and big screeners

1392
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:21,880
boys.
This segment presented by Prize

1393
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:25,160
Picks Prize picks daily fantasy
app where you make entries based

1394
01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:29,600
on players projected outcomes.
And they will match any deposit

1395
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:33,200
up to $100.
When you sign up using BC picks

1396
01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:35,560
or use the QR code there, you
can see it.

1397
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:38,600
And it is not just for football
season, it's for basketball.

1398
01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:42,240
It's for baseball.
So you can do this all year

1399
01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:45,280
around.
Let's have a look at it here and

1400
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:49,440
let's go to our predictions.
Ron, I don't know what order you

1401
01:14:49,440 --> 01:14:51,040
have them in.
Do you have Sheldon first?

1402
01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:53,720
Sheldon's leading off.
We're just going to go back

1403
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:56,320
around the horn to me.
All right, Sheldon.

1404
01:14:57,280 --> 01:14:59,280
What you got on?
This Yep, I think that's going

1405
01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:02,400
to be a high scoring ball game.
I got Tech winning just because,

1406
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:06,080
well, it's UVA and we own them.
So even though I do have some

1407
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:08,560
trepidations about this game, I
do think the Hokies will win a

1408
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:09,800
close ball game.
So give me Tech.

1409
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:15,880
All right, I am right there with
Sheldon.

1410
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:19,560
I've got this as a not quite as
high scoring as he probably has

1411
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:21,440
it.
I've got it a 30 to 20 victory

1412
01:15:21,440 --> 01:15:23,520
for the Hokies.
I think we jump out on them

1413
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:26,600
early.
I think we establish ourselves

1414
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:29,480
on offense.
I think we're making make them

1415
01:15:29,480 --> 01:15:33,560
play catch up a little bit where
we can tee off on them with our

1416
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:36,320
pass rushers and put them in bad
situations, force a couple

1417
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:38,080
turnovers and that's the
difference in the game.

1418
01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:42,920
All righty.
Now I'm next tell you get to go

1419
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:45,040
last.
I I I thought I'd go last.

1420
01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:47,880
I'm with the Hokies on this one
as well.

1421
01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:51,480
I think it is going to be.
I hope it is not my prediction.

1422
01:15:51,480 --> 01:15:54,800
I hope it is.
Much worse than my prediction,

1423
01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:57,040
but I think the Hokies are going
to take this game.

1424
01:15:57,040 --> 01:16:00,520
We are the more talented team,
we have more experience on our

1425
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:06,720
side and I think we take this
game 27 to 20 at Lane Stadium.

1426
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:09,400
N tally, you get to wrap this
one up.

1427
01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:12,360
Yeah, I'm going to go.
I'm going to go Virginia Tech.

1428
01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:15,480
I'm going to go Vt on this one.
I have been fading.

1429
01:16:15,480 --> 01:16:17,600
The Hokies didn't work last
week.

1430
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:20,160
I was hoping we get a win when
I.

1431
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:23,880
I'm not pick North Carolina
State, but I I honestly think we

1432
01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:26,240
win this game.
Even my prediction before the

1433
01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:28,680
season started when I went
through and you know, you

1434
01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:31,600
picking teams and stuff, I kind
of felt like it would come down

1435
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:34,600
to us going there and having to
get a win and be bowl eligible.

1436
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:38,840
And I just think that you know
it's time.

1437
01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:42,080
You know this is this is what we
this is what we need to do.

1438
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:45,520
And again with the quarterback
adding a little bit more fuel to

1439
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:48,360
the fire, I think that I think
we go and get the win.

1440
01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:50,640
I don't have a prediction just
yet, but I think we get the win.

1441
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:54,520
Yeah, and I and I think it's
this and I think it's not only

1442
01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:56,360
this podcast, but I think it's
team.

1443
01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:59,160
I think the coaches and I think
this fan base need that bowl.

1444
01:16:59,960 --> 01:17:03,240
I think it's a mental thing.
There are a lot of people that

1445
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:08,400
are screaming not a successful
season, bad season.

1446
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:13,480
If we you know you, you, you,
you look at the steps and all

1447
01:17:13,480 --> 01:17:15,720
that.
I think you go in there and we

1448
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:19,360
take the win Saturday.
Things are looking up for a lot

1449
01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:22,200
of people, so let let's talk
about that a little bit.

1450
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:23,880
Let's talk about that a little
bit since we're here.

1451
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:28,000
We can do it.
Is is this season a failure if

1452
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:35,200
we don't make a bowl?
No, because I mean that That's

1453
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:38,280
been a big, big piece of chatter
out there on the Twitter sphere

1454
01:17:40,480 --> 01:17:44,080
when I look at it.
And I'll shout out PB here

1455
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:46,040
because PB kind of started this
discourse.

1456
01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:54,120
When we look at whether it's a
failure or success, I think it's

1457
01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:58,240
a little more nuanced than that
because I think there are, I've

1458
01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:03,480
seen enough building blocks
where I am comfortable with what

1459
01:18:03,480 --> 01:18:07,160
we're working with.
So I would not call this season

1460
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:10,440
a failure, but it would
certainly be a disappointment to

1461
01:18:10,440 --> 01:18:13,520
not make a bowl and not make a
bowl by losing to your in state

1462
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:16,600
rival that on paper should not
beat you.

1463
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:21,080
So it would be a disappointment,
but not a absolute failure in my

1464
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:22,840
eyes.
Tally.

1465
01:18:23,440 --> 01:18:28,120
Yeah, I wouldn't say it to be a
failure just because of, like

1466
01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:30,800
Brian said, some of the building
blocks that we found, you know,

1467
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:34,800
I feel like we found some wide
receivers, we found some stud

1468
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:38,760
quarterback, we found a stud
running back, depending on how

1469
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:42,440
that goes into next year,
knowing what we got.

1470
01:18:42,440 --> 01:18:45,000
But.
We've evaluated some good talent

1471
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:47,440
and brought in some good talent,
so I wouldn't say that the

1472
01:18:47,440 --> 01:18:51,680
season is a failure compared to
what we did last year, but it

1473
01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:53,800
would.
It would be disappointing to not

1474
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:59,160
go in and go in and and win this
game because of the nature of

1475
01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:01,480
the game.
You know it's a road game, we

1476
01:19:01,480 --> 01:19:04,680
haven't produced well on the
road, blah, blah, blah blah blah

1477
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:06,600
blah.
We can go into all that, but I

1478
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:11,000
wouldn't say it's a failure.
I think, Brian, the way you put

1479
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:14,120
it, it's the.
The the the game Saturday.

1480
01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:16,720
If we don't win it's losing a
battle.

1481
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:20,480
It's not losing the war because
the way the war looks like is

1482
01:19:20,480 --> 01:19:22,480
we're taking those like you said
building blocks.

1483
01:19:22,480 --> 01:19:25,360
We're taking steps forward.
We're evaluating talent.

1484
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:28,400
We're able to bring people in
and tally you mentioned a couple

1485
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:32,280
times especially regardless of
our record it it's you go on the

1486
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:35,280
trail and say you know we only
brought and I was saying

1487
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:38,280
beforehand drones Tooting Lane.
Felton.

1488
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:43,240
And APR on the defensive side,
no knock to Canteen.

1489
01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:47,640
I think the second day would
have been just as solid without

1490
01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:50,560
him.
We brought in a handful of

1491
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:56,320
players and we have went from
getting shit on playing bad for

1492
01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:59,520
multiple weeks looking terrible
last year until the last week of

1493
01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:03,880
the season to.
Blowing teams out, being

1494
01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:07,040
competitive in other games,
three of the five, the six

1495
01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:11,760
losses we have right now or two
teams that are a combined, if I

1496
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:17,880
can get the math right here, 29
and 5 or 28 and 5:00 that's

1497
01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:21,160
three of our losses, 28 and five
is their record.

1498
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:26,960
Think about that, so.
And two of those losses that.

1499
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:30,400
You know are are on the other
side where you hold that because

1500
01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:32,600
we need to get the liquor
flowing to have that

1501
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:35,520
conversation.
The liquor will be flowing.

1502
01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:37,480
We're not ready for that one.
We're going, we're going to save

1503
01:20:37,480 --> 01:20:40,520
that one for December 22nd.
Mark your calendar, Evan.

1504
01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:42,600
Evan Williams Mark your
calendars.

1505
01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:45,080
December Evan Williams up top
there.

1506
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:48,840
Moonshine Below me, 4 finger
Scotches and whatever Shelton's

1507
01:20:48,840 --> 01:20:51,360
going to drink that night.
All right, whatever.

1508
01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:53,360
You're going to drink that night
because you let it all hang

1509
01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:55,160
loose.
All right, well, guess what?

1510
01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:58,440
We got other games to pick here
because it is rivalry week, and

1511
01:20:58,440 --> 01:21:00,920
to me, this is the week that
makes college football, right?

1512
01:21:01,480 --> 01:21:03,800
We were going through throwing
games out there that we were

1513
01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:06,640
looking at and this is the week
that makes college football

1514
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:10,200
because crazy shit happens this.
Week and it's fun to pick up

1515
01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:13,240
even when the teams aren't
necessarily on the same

1516
01:21:13,240 --> 01:21:15,960
trajectory.
Record wise, You damn right you

1517
01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:18,760
damn right it is.
All right, Tally, you got the

1518
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:23,480
first one.
What is your pick for this week?

1519
01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:26,280
What did I have?
Who did I have?

1520
01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:28,440
Did I have Ole Miss?
And, yeah, the Egg Bowl.

1521
01:21:28,440 --> 01:21:32,600
Yeah, the Egg Bowl.
Yeah, you be Thanksgiving Day

1522
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:34,440
eating you some Turkey and
dressing.

1523
01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:37,040
Got to have a cranberry sauce
on.

1524
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:39,640
If y'all do gimlet gravy.
Put all that on there.

1525
01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:42,080
Have your nice plate.
Watch the Egg Bowl.

1526
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:45,240
But I'm going to take Ole Miss
in that game.

1527
01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:48,040
I just, I mean, Mississippi
State just fired that coach.

1528
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:49,760
I think Ole Miss is the better
team.

1529
01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:54,920
All righty.
Who's the next one behind there?

1530
01:21:55,160 --> 01:21:56,560
Sheldon, who you got on this
game?

1531
01:21:57,680 --> 01:21:59,440
Mississippi State breaking a new
head coach.

1532
01:21:59,440 --> 01:22:03,000
You give me all miss, I think.
I think Kiffin's going to have

1533
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:06,440
those boys ready to play.
All right.

1534
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:10,800
Brian, who you taking?
I'm chasing this one with Ole

1535
01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:15,240
Miss as well, man.
You know when you get a new

1536
01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:17,200
coach in there, it's going to go
one or two ways.

1537
01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:20,120
You're either going to overplay
your hand or you going to.

1538
01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:22,040
Just come out there and put a
dud out there.

1539
01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:24,400
I feel like this has dud written
all over it, so give me your Ole

1540
01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:25,760
Miss.
All righty.

1541
01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:28,960
So a couple things for for a
announcement selection here.

1542
01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:33,840
The game is in Starkville so if
you got multiple TV's, put it on

1543
01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:36,400
the one that you ain't got the
sound on unless you want to hear

1544
01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:40,040
cowbells all night.
That's 1-2.

1545
01:22:41,440 --> 01:22:44,400
Mississippi State is one win
away from being bowl eligible.

1546
01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:50,040
One win 3.
Have we not seen some of the

1547
01:22:50,160 --> 01:22:53,480
craziest shit in this game over
the last like 10 years?

1548
01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:56,200
The the home.
What was his name that got the

1549
01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:58,880
touchdown?
Did the dog pissing thing?

1550
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:02,800
They missed the point.
Elijah the dog missed the extra

1551
01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:04,720
point because they got packed
up.

1552
01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:08,920
So many wild things happen in
this game is a 730 kick.

1553
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:12,520
But in this reality Ole Miss is
on the verge of potentially

1554
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:17,680
getting a potentially getting a
New Year's 6 bowl.

1555
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:20,480
They're nine and two they go,
they do go 10 and two.

1556
01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:26,680
I wish we didn't have the hook
because I believe it could be a

1557
01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:29,600
10 point game, but I'm, I'm
going to go with Lane liking to

1558
01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:33,280
run up to score and he'll score
one late to win by 14.

1559
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:37,800
All righty, what's the next one?
Oh, I'm the next one, Brian.

1560
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:40,720
You're the next one.
We go out West, we go to Eugene,

1561
01:23:40,720 --> 01:23:45,600
OR we go to the Civil War.
Oregon State, Oregon, Wow.

1562
01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:49,680
That game on Saturday night, I
watched just about all I got

1563
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:53,760
back home, watched just about
all of Oregon and Washington.

1564
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:58,800
That was a great game to watch.
Great game to well matched

1565
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:00,880
teams.
So when I looked at this game,

1566
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:03,200
it's a lot of rivalry, a lot of
bitter hatred.

1567
01:24:04,440 --> 01:24:06,400
Oregon leaving the conference
next year.

1568
01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:10,880
If Y'all didn't notice, Oregon
State and Washington State have

1569
01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:13,480
basically been given the OK.
They will be a two team

1570
01:24:13,480 --> 01:24:16,640
conference next year.
I don't know how that works.

1571
01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:19,120
But that's fun.
That's got to be fucking fun.

1572
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:23,840
Oh my God.
But in this case, you know,

1573
01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:26,400
Oregon on the doorstep.
I think Oregon's already

1574
01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:30,760
clinched it.
Oregon potentially chance again.

1575
01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:36,000
Potentially could win the PAC
12, could potentially go to the

1576
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:42,280
playoffs if things break right.
But 13 1/2 is just too much in a

1577
01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:44,320
game like this.
Especially.

1578
01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:48,520
And I know Oregon State is like
heartbroken, but ain't nothing

1579
01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:51,120
like having the boys just up the
street.

1580
01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:55,200
Give me Oregon State take the 13
1/2 game a lot closer than

1581
01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:58,120
people are predicting.
Tally I'm.

1582
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:01,000
Just going to, I'm going to take
Oregon, man.

1583
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:03,760
They trying to get Bonix to
Heisman, so they're going to try

1584
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:05,960
to let him sling it as much as
they can.

1585
01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:09,960
Are they going to try to run
that score up with a a good, a

1586
01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:16,640
good opponent in a rivalry game?
I'm taking Oregon Shelton.

1587
01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:20,840
Oregon is 8, two and one against
the spread of this season.

1588
01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:22,440
They're playing hot.
I like the Ducks.

1589
01:25:22,440 --> 01:25:25,400
All righty.
And Mr. Siegelow.

1590
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:28,920
I'm riding with what Curtis is
spitting there.

1591
01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:31,960
I think this is going to be a
tighter game than to think

1592
01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:34,720
people looking at.
I think it's still probably

1593
01:25:34,720 --> 01:25:37,800
going to be a 10 point victory
for the Ducks but I think that

1594
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:40,280
it's going to be pretty close
there down to the end.

1595
01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:44,120
All righty, as Brian puts Oregon
State on the board.

1596
01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:47,520
Brian, you've got the next one.
What rivalry game did you

1597
01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:51,400
choose?
Had to go with Gators and FSU

1598
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:53,120
after the Jordan Travis
situation.

1599
01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:58,440
This is going to be a a very
interesting match up here

1600
01:25:58,440 --> 01:26:00,880
because you got.
You know, undefeated Florida

1601
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:04,360
State still trying to keep their
hopes alive here for the College

1602
01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:08,280
Football Playoff ACC
championship is already the game

1603
01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:11,400
is already booked there but
obviously you know winning the

1604
01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:12,960
championship is still at play
here.

1605
01:26:13,240 --> 01:26:15,480
So this is, this is going to be
an interesting match up here.

1606
01:26:15,480 --> 01:26:20,880
I think Florida is a good match
up, especially with with Travis

1607
01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:24,120
out there but I think it's just
going to be too much town on the

1608
01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:26,320
Seminole side.
So give me Florida State.

1609
01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:30,560
All righty.
Yeah, I'm up next on this one

1610
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:36,920
little Sunshine State showdown.
I think Florida State is going

1611
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:40,200
to win the game, but without
Jordan Travis, I don't think

1612
01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:42,520
they're going to quite blow out
Florida like we see.

1613
01:26:42,520 --> 01:26:43,960
I think this is going to be a
tight one.

1614
01:26:44,440 --> 01:26:47,760
I do think Tate Rodhamaker is
probably good enough to lead

1615
01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:50,240
them over the Gators.
All of the Gators are getting

1616
01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:55,040
our playing for.
Gators are playing for bowl

1617
01:26:55,040 --> 01:27:01,040
eligibility so give me the
Gators give me the points tally

1618
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:03,120
I'm.
Going to take Florida State.

1619
01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:05,880
I think Florida's quarterback is
hurt as well.

1620
01:27:06,040 --> 01:27:08,760
The starting quarterback is
hurt, if I'm not mistaken.

1621
01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:12,960
Again, Jordan Travis is a
amazing player.

1622
01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:18,320
I hate that his college career
comes to an end like that, but

1623
01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:19,840
he got nothing to hold his head
down.

1624
01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:22,760
I mean he he brought Florida
State back to relevancy.

1625
01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:26,720
So I'm going to go Florida State
and Sheldon.

1626
01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:30,560
Yeah, I'm going Florida.
I think they're playing on the

1627
01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:32,000
road.
FSU's playing on the road.

1628
01:27:32,000 --> 01:27:33,600
I think they're going to.
They're going to take some time

1629
01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:34,960
to get adjusted to the new
quarterback.

1630
01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:38,080
So give me, give me Florida.
All righty.

1631
01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:39,560
All righty.
So we got that one.

1632
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:41,720
Sheldon, you got to pick the
next one.

1633
01:27:41,720 --> 01:27:46,480
What game did you choose?
Well, have to look at it.

1634
01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:50,120
I believe I had the game.
Is that correct?

1635
01:27:50,120 --> 01:27:52,240
Yep.
So, oh, how is it in Michigan?

1636
01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:54,680
I was just talking about with a
friend earlier this evening.

1637
01:27:55,320 --> 01:28:00,320
This game might honestly be the
most consequential and important

1638
01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:01,720
comfortable game in the last 10
years.

1639
01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:04,520
I know that might sound crazy,
but when you look at what's at

1640
01:28:04,520 --> 01:28:07,000
stake with Ohio State potential
losing three straight to

1641
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:09,560
Michigan, CFP hopes on the line,
National title hopes on the

1642
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:11,720
line, Michigan With all the
stuff they've gone through this

1643
01:28:11,720 --> 01:28:15,560
season and the the after effect
that would happen if they'd lost

1644
01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:18,000
to Ohio State, this is such a
huge game.

1645
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:20,280
I cannot even put into words how
big of a game this is.

1646
01:28:20,480 --> 01:28:23,360
So with that being said, I am
going with.

1647
01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:30,680
Ohio State to cover -2.5 3.5.
You got a 3 1/2 cover.

1648
01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:35,240
I think the line moved down
before we picked it, so 3 1/2.

1649
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:37,640
All righty.
Brian, what are you saying on

1650
01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:42,000
this one?
I think Michigan's got a little

1651
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:44,320
bit of a chip on their shoulder
with everything that they got

1652
01:28:44,320 --> 01:28:47,800
going on this season.
I think that Ohio State is going

1653
01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:51,200
to give them a good shot early,
but I think it's going to be too

1654
01:28:51,200 --> 01:28:54,400
much Michigan in the end.
I think it is going to come down

1655
01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:57,600
to about a about a six point
game there, but I I got the

1656
01:28:57,600 --> 01:29:02,840
Wolverines coming out on top on
this one, all righty and I am

1657
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:06,720
picking next and two really good
defenses.

1658
01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:11,640
I think we both see that 2 elite
defenses and like you said

1659
01:29:11,640 --> 01:29:14,880
everything that's been going on
all season.

1660
01:29:16,440 --> 01:29:20,120
You know especially with the
whole horrible thing and all

1661
01:29:20,120 --> 01:29:24,280
this stuff that did Ryan Day
hire the private investigator to

1662
01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:29,400
start all this shit.
Saturday's game's in Ann Arbor.

1663
01:29:29,680 --> 01:29:34,520
The Hyatt game kick is going to
be 32�� it is going to be clear a

1664
01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:38,880
little slight breeze of 5 miles
an hour and I think this is

1665
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:40,560
going to be old school big 10
war.

1666
01:29:41,400 --> 01:29:44,000
War.
I mean, I think I see this game

1667
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:50,560
like 20-17 and I think Michigan
is going to win this game

1668
01:29:50,920 --> 01:29:53,080
potentially on a last second
like field goal.

1669
01:29:53,080 --> 01:29:55,520
But that hook?
Give me Ohio State.

1670
01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:59,840
Ohio State covers.
Give me Michigan.

1671
01:29:59,920 --> 01:30:02,400
They got coaches up there crying
like Harbaugh Dead.

1672
01:30:02,640 --> 01:30:06,720
I mean, you can't lose.
When you got that much emotion,

1673
01:30:06,720 --> 01:30:08,240
can you Shoot?
Give me Michigan.

1674
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:10,080
All righty.
All righty.

1675
01:30:10,480 --> 01:30:12,280
Brian, what did we pick for the
last?

1676
01:30:12,280 --> 01:30:13,640
Because these are some great
rivalries.

1677
01:30:13,640 --> 01:30:16,480
Commonwealth Cup up top, Egg
Bowl, Civil War.

1678
01:30:16,480 --> 01:30:19,560
Sunshine Showdown, The Game.
What's our last one?

1679
01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:23,760
Iron Bowl, baby.
Tally, we did that for you.

1680
01:30:24,520 --> 01:30:26,960
That's a good one.
We did it for you.

1681
01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:29,240
That's going to dictate.
That's going to dictate about

1682
01:30:29,240 --> 01:30:34,360
two weeks for me.
That Crimson and White team

1683
01:30:34,360 --> 01:30:36,680
lose.
Yeah, it's going to be a lot of

1684
01:30:36,680 --> 01:30:39,880
wives in the hospital.
Oh shit, Black.

1685
01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:46,080
Eyes and and busted lips with
bill bottles and all types of

1686
01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:48,840
shit, bro, that was.
It How many TV's are going to

1687
01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:52,520
have to get purchased?
I can't remember my man that's

1688
01:30:52,520 --> 01:30:55,040
on TikTok, the whole dude.
I think his name is Willie.

1689
01:30:55,480 --> 01:30:58,960
Go look up Alabama fan Willie on
TikTok and you.

1690
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:03,560
You going to see what Alabama
fans feel about Auburn and how

1691
01:31:03,560 --> 01:31:06,960
they act?
All righty, Well let's pick the

1692
01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:10,120
game now.
Bama is laying 14 1/2 points.

1693
01:31:10,760 --> 01:31:16,040
Auburn loss to the Jerry Kill
LED New Mexico State Lobos, I

1694
01:31:16,120 --> 01:31:16,960
think.
He's Jerry.

1695
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:19,960
Kill Truthers 9 and Three.
We're out there.

1696
01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:25,080
Why didn't we just hire him to
be the offensive coordinator

1697
01:31:25,080 --> 01:31:27,240
back in 2019?
Shit.

1698
01:31:27,320 --> 01:31:28,520
All right.
All right.

1699
01:31:28,640 --> 01:31:33,040
Brian, who you got in this one?
After that performance last week

1700
01:31:33,040 --> 01:31:34,920
by Auburn, I'm I'm leaning bam
on this.

1701
01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:37,800
So I think it's about 17.
It is going to be the final.

1702
01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:43,440
Alabama's playing as good as
I've seen them play here this

1703
01:31:43,440 --> 01:31:45,040
year.
Obviously they had a rough

1704
01:31:45,040 --> 01:31:48,280
September, but they really
turned it around, got their legs

1705
01:31:48,280 --> 01:31:51,400
under them in October, and it
really last three or four weeks

1706
01:31:51,400 --> 01:31:52,760
have been playing some really
good football.

1707
01:31:52,760 --> 01:31:55,480
So I'm going to take BAMMA here.
All righty.

1708
01:31:55,720 --> 01:31:57,040
I got to be a little different
here.

1709
01:31:57,040 --> 01:31:59,200
I'm going to take Auburn because
I don't think they can

1710
01:31:59,200 --> 01:32:01,560
potentially play as bad as they
did last weekend.

1711
01:32:01,560 --> 01:32:06,600
Hugh Freeze does have sort of a
knack for having Nick Saban's

1712
01:32:06,600 --> 01:32:08,240
number.
I don't think he has the talent.

1713
01:32:08,240 --> 01:32:12,240
I don't think he is quite there
yet with Auburn.

1714
01:32:12,560 --> 01:32:15,960
But I I just because how Bama
plays this year and I know

1715
01:32:15,960 --> 01:32:20,520
they've scored more of the last
few weeks, I think I can take 14

1716
01:32:20,520 --> 01:32:22,560
1/2.
I'll probably be sitting here on

1717
01:32:22,880 --> 01:32:28,240
Saturday afternoon hopefully
enjoying you know 56 nothing on

1718
01:32:28,240 --> 01:32:31,320
this TV and watching the end of
the Bama game over here with it

1719
01:32:31,320 --> 01:32:34,440
being like a 14 point win, 13
point win for Bama.

1720
01:32:34,440 --> 01:32:39,240
So you give me the points
Callie, how you feeling on this

1721
01:32:39,240 --> 01:32:40,440
one?
You close to new?

1722
01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:44,280
One man I got to take Bama.
They just clicking at the right

1723
01:32:44,280 --> 01:32:48,440
time Right now Hugh Freeze has
got.

1724
01:32:49,160 --> 01:32:52,280
Some work to do as far as
putting some people in place.

1725
01:32:53,240 --> 01:32:55,240
Quarterback position is where
he's got to get a little bit

1726
01:32:55,240 --> 01:32:57,760
better.
But I will say, I will say, like

1727
01:32:57,760 --> 01:33:01,560
Curtis said, he has a knack for
beating Nick Saban.

1728
01:33:01,560 --> 01:33:04,960
He knows how to beat Saban.
I just don't think he's going to

1729
01:33:04,960 --> 01:33:11,200
do it this week.
Am I on an island by myself,

1730
01:33:11,200 --> 01:33:13,600
Sheldon?
Yes.

1731
01:33:15,480 --> 01:33:17,320
I'll take Bama.
I feel like they've gotten

1732
01:33:17,320 --> 01:33:19,800
better every week and for some
reason people just don't like

1733
01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:22,640
talk about them because you know
teams like Washington, Oregon

1734
01:33:22,640 --> 01:33:25,600
and Michigan are sort of the
the, the hot topics.

1735
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:28,120
But they just, I mean if you
look at what they've done since

1736
01:33:28,120 --> 01:33:30,520
the USF game, I mean they've
been really, really good.

1737
01:33:30,520 --> 01:33:35,200
So I I take Bama Roll.
All right, he says Bama roll.

1738
01:33:35,520 --> 01:33:40,080
All righty.
So Brian, Tally, Sheldon, has

1739
01:33:40,160 --> 01:33:44,200
anything broken since we started
an hour and 34 minutes ago?

1740
01:33:45,120 --> 01:33:48,520
We can go ahead and announce
that next Tuesday we will have

1741
01:33:48,520 --> 01:33:53,920
Pete be on air with us joining
us to breakdown whatever happens

1742
01:33:53,920 --> 01:33:56,920
at UVA this week and to talk a
little championship week.

1743
01:33:57,560 --> 01:34:03,920
Peter, Peter B from Too Deep.
Awesome.

1744
01:34:03,920 --> 01:34:06,320
Good to hear that.
Glad we got confirmation up on

1745
01:34:06,320 --> 01:34:08,480
that.
Well boys, y'all got anything

1746
01:34:08,480 --> 01:34:09,920
else tonight before we wrap it
up?

1747
01:34:10,680 --> 01:34:13,080
We better fucking win, I'm going
to tell you that right now.

1748
01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:16,240
Andretti going to lose his mind
if we lose?

1749
01:34:17,440 --> 01:34:19,400
Andretti will be in his
feelings.

1750
01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:23,720
I love Andretti because Andretti
gets on the live stream feed and

1751
01:34:23,720 --> 01:34:28,360
he he gets his points out there
30-40, fifty minutes before we

1752
01:34:28,360 --> 01:34:30,000
even go on air.
I love that.

1753
01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:33,360
Andretti, be ready.
He sets the tone, man.

1754
01:34:33,480 --> 01:34:35,880
He's been, he's been holding
this shit since Saturday.

1755
01:34:35,880 --> 01:34:38,560
He's trying to get it out.
Got to get it out.

1756
01:34:38,800 --> 01:34:40,280
Got to get it out.
He's like it's Tuesday.

1757
01:34:40,280 --> 01:34:42,040
I'm, I'm, I'm putting it out
there right now.

1758
01:34:42,040 --> 01:34:44,240
I don't care.
He knows we'll get to it.

1759
01:34:44,440 --> 01:34:47,520
He knows we'll get to it.
Andrea We got to go to a game

1760
01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:49,240
next year, man.
You got to let us know what game

1761
01:34:49,240 --> 01:34:50,600
you're going to.
We got to get there.

1762
01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:54,120
Got two, Got two, Got two.
All right, fellas, that is Wrap

1763
01:34:54,120 --> 01:34:56,800
up this episode of the Boundary
Corner podcast brought to you by

1764
01:34:56,800 --> 01:34:59,040
Main Street Pharmacy in
Blacksburg.

1765
01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:01,160
I'm Curtis Wilson.
I'm Brian Siegler.

1766
01:35:01,560 --> 01:35:04,160
Jonathan Taylor.
And I am Shelton Moss.

1767
01:35:05,000 --> 01:35:07,680
Visit our website
boundarycornerbt.com to listen

1768
01:35:07,680 --> 01:35:09,760
to all of our episodes.
Check the merchandise.

1769
01:35:09,760 --> 01:35:12,600
Shop out while you're there.
Yep, there.

1770
01:35:12,640 --> 01:35:15,320
There it is right there.
You can purchase one of those.

1771
01:35:16,600 --> 01:35:19,400
Follow us Twitter, Facebook,
Instagram, subscribe to our

1772
01:35:19,400 --> 01:35:21,080
YouTube.
Thank you all very much out

1773
01:35:21,080 --> 01:35:22,560
there.
We cracked 300 YouTube

1774
01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:25,600
subscribers last week.
Kind of a goal we had set for

1775
01:35:25,600 --> 01:35:29,920
ourselves and we can now hit it.
We also are on all podcast

1776
01:35:29,920 --> 01:35:32,880
sources you can think of.
Spotify Amazon, Apple Podcast

1777
01:35:33,240 --> 01:35:37,760
Jason Long plays us in plays us
out Jason Long music.com where

1778
01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:40,720
you can find all of his music.
Apple, Spotify his YouTube and

1779
01:35:40,720 --> 01:35:43,000
Facebook accounts Jason messaged
us today.

1780
01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:45,440
Jason think he Did he think he
tore something?

1781
01:35:45,520 --> 01:35:48,800
Or did he just think he pulled a
muscle at wrestling practice?

1782
01:35:49,120 --> 01:35:52,800
I think it's just a pull, but
the doctors have to confirm,

1783
01:35:53,160 --> 01:35:54,760
yeah.
Jason, you're too old to be out

1784
01:35:54,800 --> 01:35:57,800
there with them kids, man.
Well, he's, he's trying to teach

1785
01:35:57,800 --> 01:35:59,640
him, man.
So you know, he's he's doing

1786
01:35:59,640 --> 01:36:01,200
good things.
He's getting down there.

1787
01:36:01,200 --> 01:36:02,760
Sometimes it's hard to get back
up though.

1788
01:36:03,320 --> 01:36:05,640
All righty.
Well, that is going to wrap up

1789
01:36:05,640 --> 01:36:08,280
it let's we thank you all for
always listening.

1790
01:36:08,280 --> 01:36:10,560
And as always, let's go.
OK.