Know The Enemy: Vanderbilt
Boundary Corner Podcast
Know The Enemy: Vanderbilt

We now turn our attention to Vanderbilt with the specter of last year's opener still blazed in our memory banks. Will the Hokies get right against their second SEC opponent of the early 2025 season or will Diego Pavia and Company work some magic in Blacksburg?

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As we get into know the enemy,
it is the Vanderbilt Commodores.

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They're coming in want to know
after a 45 three win versus the

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mighty Charleston Southern.
Yes, I do say that

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sarcastically.
So, yeah.

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But you know, we we the best
thing about doing this is kind

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of reintroducing yourself to
guys because a lot of the

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players they had last year are
still here this year.

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And let's just talk about it's
Tim Beck, Jerry kills offense.

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Best thing is this year we got
tape on we have tape of what

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they're probably going to do
unlike last year, although you

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thought we know we're don't do.
But obviously when you're

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talking about Vanderbilt, you
got to talk about what is he

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like 32 now?
He keeps applying for years of

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eligibility and they keep random
eligibility.

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I'm I'm trying to be a joker
here, but Diego Pavia, you know,

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guy burned us last year, got us
on numerous things started off

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hot this year against VFCS foe
throwing for 275 and three

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touchdowns.
But you know, if you don't know

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his game, Brian Talley, I don't
know which one are y'all going

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to talk about him?
But y'all go ahead and kind of

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get that little high level stuff
on him and Sheldon kick in

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anything you got.
Yeah.

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I mean, we know Diego Pavia,
man, he's a dual threat

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quarterback.
He's got that that that moxie in

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the pocket, that pocket
presence.

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He's what you call a gamer.
He's not really physically

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imposing, but he makes plays,
especially with his legs.

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We saw him a lot last year, you
know, running kind of a triple

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option look out of the shotgun
down in Nashville.

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That really, really gave us a
ton of problems and we couldn't

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get off the field consistently
and it ultimately bit us in the

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end there at the end of the game
as well.

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Tell me what you got.
He's just probably just a

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nightmare because he's just a
football player.

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I mean, he's a good quarterback,
but you know, when you watch him

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play, he's not scared of
anything, not not too big, but

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you know, he he's going to go
get it.

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You know, he's making people
miss in the open field.

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You know, he's very heady when
he gets along that sideline.

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He knows right when to take that
step out.

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So you hit him late and he makes
the he makes throws.

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You know, he's got some players
over there.

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We'll talk about a couple of
them here in just a minute, but

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definitely, definitely going to
be we'll have our hands full.

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But I say all that to say
different type of quarterback

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than Sellers, but he's not
better than sellers.

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Sellers is not, you know, I
don't think he's as good as they

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hype him up to be.
I don't know if he's the number

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one player that like they
saying, but different type of

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quarterback.
But I don't think if we can keep

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sellers in the pocket a little
bit, we can kind of keep Pavi in

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there.
So I'm hoping that we've done

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some things at him that he
hadn't seen.

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Shove.
You got anything on him?

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Yeah, last year he had the 4th
best PFF grade when throwing

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from a clean pocket, which is
considered one of the more

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predictive and stable stats for
for evaluating quarterback play

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is pocket, you know, pocket
presence.

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The other quarterbacks on that
list, Cam Board, Jackson, Dart

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Shooter, Sanders, all above him.
And then Tyler Show, Will Howard

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and Tommy Castellanos for the
next 3.

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So that's a list of really good
quarterbacks, almost all NFL

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guys or guys that will be in the
FL pretty soon.

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So he is a he's a very calm and
imposing presence when he's

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thrown from the pocket.
Yes, he is all righty.

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And who does he like to throw
to?

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Well, the guy's 64.
He's like 245.

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Talk about Eli stores.
He absolutely torched us last

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year.
This year already starting hot 4

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for 86 against Charleston
Southern last weekend.

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Did not have a touchdown, but
averaging 21 1/2, 21 1/2 per

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reception.
And if you go back to the game

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last year against us, he put up
similar numbers.

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He led them in receiving yards
against Vt last year, it was

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only two for 46, but everybody
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much.
I think the next guy was like at

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30.
So he is that guy now.

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Tally, You played it.
You've seen him play.

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Obviously you've seen him play,
you know, in person.

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You probably watch the Alabama
in the Texas game last year.

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He's a he's a match up
nightmare.

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He's a match up nightmare.
Not because he's like he's not

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like super technical on routes.
So he's not going to, you know,

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Juke you to get open like you
see a good wide receiver do.

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But he just has he's like an NFL
tight end, you know what I'm

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saying?
One of those hybrid tight ends

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that's too fast for certain
people to guard him and too big

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for other people to guard him.
So he uses his body to get where

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he wants to go and he can high
point the ball with that big

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frame.
So he's a, he's a nightmare to

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deal with.
We have some people that can

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deal with him.
That's why we play the game.

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But he's a he, he's going, he's
going to be fun to watch.

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Man, I, I pay attention to tight
ends all the time and he's one

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of those.
He's one of those, but like

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Notre Dame, Penn State type
tight ends, you know what I'm

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saying?
Just kind of they should be a

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wide receiver, but they're so
big because I don't see him

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doing a whole bunch like in the
running game where he's just

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mauling people.
You can block a little bit, but

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he's out there to catch the ball
so.

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Yeah, I mean, he's the guy that
went to New Mexico State as a

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quarterback, so very much a
Logan Thomas transition type

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guy.
Yeah, just did it, you know, in

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college before he got to the
NFL, You know, he's got that

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similar type skill set.
Just a a a body can make a play,

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like I said, like Tally you
said, but not very technical,

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isn't a great blocker.
He does.

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He's not going to do a ton from
a blocking standpoint, but he's

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he's just a playmaker.
Yeah, 100% and it showed in last

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year.
You know, I mean, the the really

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big game last year is he, I
mean, he didn't torch us, but he

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made a couple big plays for us
on us last year.

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His big game last year.
Go look at the Alabama tape.

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He crushed them.
He crushed them last year.

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And I know hopefully
everything's going on with

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Alabama stays because I'm sure
Tally's having a nice laugh this

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week down in his home state with
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But yeah, we lost Shelton.
I don't know what Shelton had.

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Shelton, did you get?
Did you have anything on Stowers

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before we move on?
Nope.

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Nothing.
Nothing on Stowers.

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OK, let's talk Cedric Alexander,
another one of the guys we saw

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last year.
It looks like he is their lead

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back again for the second
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Just 83 yards on on 12 carries
on Saturday against Charleston

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Southern.
But you know, last year right at

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800 yards total from scrimmage.
So we definitely have some pass

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catching ability.
Anything else, Brian, just kind

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of reviewing your notes on it
from last year and maybe looking

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a little bit this year?
Yeah, I mean, he's a guy that

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last year, you know, he he was
healthy start of the year, kind

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of faded as the year went on
with some injuries and had some

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problems with that was a little
less effective, a little less

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explosive.
But sounds like he's healthy,

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rounded into form.
You know, when he's in form, he

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does a good job of making the
first person miss and he does

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have some explosiveness where
you can hit the long one on you.

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So that's that's one thing We're
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we're we're keeping him in check
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And you know, when we look at a
team that was struggling with

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some missed tackles, we want to
make sure that we're tackling

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sure on him in the backfield.
He's a good athlete, man.

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He made a catch in that, in that
whatever whoever they just

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played Charleston Southern,
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Pretty much.
Yeah, he made a a hell of a

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catch for a touchdown.
I believe he's just he's a great

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athlete.
You know, it's it's fun to watch

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him play, You know, not a fan of
Vanderbilt, but I'm a fan of

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good football.
And to watch him, watch him do

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some of the things he's done and
then seeing him live last year,

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you got to go hit him, you got
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You can't you can't come up and
and play around if you want to

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get him to the ground.
So again, I think that we have

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the defense to do it.
It just comes down to what the

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game plan looks like and do we
want it.

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I think Virginia Tech is one of
those one of those teams schools

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that should always have an
underdog mindset no matter what

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It feels like.
You know all we're we're seven

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point favorite.
They should.

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The coaches should just instill
it in their in their team that

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you're on the everybody should.
Always feel disrespected.

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Always should feel disrespected.
Man.

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This team embarrassed you last
year, you know, you went down

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that of their house and people
was falling out and fainting and

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all type of junk and they had
half the stadium closed down

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because it was raggedy.
Whatever.

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Had it still closed down they
they still have an open up the

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end zone.
And listen to freaking country

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music walking in there and
walking out.

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Hey, ain't done wrong with
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I hate country music.
I don't want to.

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I don't want to hear Luke Bryan,
Brian Luke, Dennis the Menace,

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whatever their names is.
I want to.

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I want, I want to hear Inner
Sandman.

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How about that coming to
Blacksburg, you hear Inner

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Sandman and I want the team to
go out and feel disrespected and

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go win.
And I ain't talking about a

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three hour stomach ache.
I just want you to go.

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I want to be able to get up
going.

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To get a cigar and a whiskey.
And and just be rambling in the

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pantry for chips and not worried
about that play because we

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already up, you know, 21 points
and I ain't worried about them,

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man, go make a statement.
That's what I want.

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You to do if.
Somebody let Luke Bryan know

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it's on site when Tally sees
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And.
Then you know when you go to,

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you know when you go to
Nashville, all of their bars are

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named after somebody country.
They like, oh, this is this is

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Blake Shelton's place.
I'll be like, what kind of food

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they got in there.
I don't care about Blake

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Shelton's pretty cool.
Now.

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I ain't talking to talk about it
about that, but I don't care

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about all that stuff.
I'm trying to get up here to see

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this game.
So we want to hear in a Sandman.

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That's what we want to hear.
Get that?

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Country music.
There you go all right, one last

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piece wanted to talk about their
offensive line.

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You know looks like they had a
set 5 going out there again,

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they were playing like tally you
joking?

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Literally, I think Charleston
Southern was the worst FCS team

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last year, So it literally was
they were playing school for the

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blind.
But something I was listening to

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and it caught my eye.
Excuse me, it caught my ear was

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they feel some of their fans,
some of their podcasters feel

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that they really do not have a
true tackle on the team.

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It's just a bunch of guards.
But with what they do, it makes

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sense, right?
They're running a lot of option.

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They need to get guys up field.
But the one thing that caught my

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eye stat wise against Charleston
Southern, not a good FCS vote.

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They have three offensive
holding penalties.

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That says something because,
Brian, when there's an offensive

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holding penalty, what does that
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offensive lineman?
You're either getting beat or

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the refs on some bullshit.
And I think at a 28 nothing

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game, I don't think the ref was
on bullshit.

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So Brian, anything with any of
these guys?

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Shelton, anything, 'cause I I'll
be honest, I watched a couple

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highlights, but it's like, can I
really watch this?

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Can I get anything out of it?
No.

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Yeah, I mean, there there's some
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You know, you kind of
highlighted it, right, with, you

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know, this is going to be a an
option focus offense.

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You don't need a true tackle out
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I mean, there this is still a
team that's going to be dropping

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back.
But because of the way they run

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the football and the way they
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you're going to have some built
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because of that, except in
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So, you know, you don't need a
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tackle out there.
But I, I, they, they do a pretty

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good job of, of what they do
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I'm, I'm interested to see if we
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second downs and we get them
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situations, how we're able to
exploit them.

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But with with not having, you
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on that, on that off the line.
Shown anything on the old line

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from your statistical point of
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No, I think anything I'll you
can give me back in a SEC.

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I'm looking up some stuff.
All righty.

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Well, that's the offense, I
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they are.
We all saw it on tape last year.

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We just got to be better this
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is, and we'll all sit here and
say it, defense didn't play

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great last year, but we still
should have won the fucking

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game.
That's that's it.

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Like the defense didn't play
great.

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The offense didn't play great
for 1/2 I'd.

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Say 3/4.
I ain't, I'm, I'm not going to

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give you a half because they
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where they just disappeared at
times, you know, like at the

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end.
All right, let's go over to

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defense.
Big story on defense.

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Can I can I say something about
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Absolutely, Sir.
That's what we're here for.

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If if Chance Fitzgerald comes to
Blacksburg and has a legacy

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game, I'm going to lose my mind.
OK.

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I'm going to lose my He'd better
not even have a catch.

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He didn't have a catch against
Charleston Southern, right?

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He comes back to black if he
comes to Blacksburg and I hear

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his name called.
No disrespect to the kid, but

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I'm just saying one planet Tech,
he ain't playing that game if he

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comes back.
Because see, that's what we

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normally do.
We usually give people who ain't

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the caliber to have a legacy
game.

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We let him have a legacy game to
do from Syracuse last year.

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I don't even know his name.
Fucking catching balls all on

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us.
A kid from Duke probably never

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caught a football a day in his
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Had a 93 yard bomb the first
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You know different.
Nick Harbour doing it.

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Nick, you know he's a good
player.

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NFLNFL guy, right?
If y'all let Chance Fitzgerald

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come to Blacksburg and head top
you, I'm on nut top you.

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There you go everybody.
If I get that, if I get that,

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no, he did not have the catch
against Charleston Southern.

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He did not have a catch against
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So there is that.
Sean, if you got anything on

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offense, we'll let you kick back
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I want to click over the defense
and talk about kind of a kind of

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a big story.
Last year.

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Big story was Parkley was trying
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Parkley took over the defense
and they played pretty well last

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year, pretty solid all the way
Vanderbilt standards.

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But he has decided to turn that
over and he is turning it over

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to a guy by the name of Steve
Gregory.

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Well, Steve Gregory is a former
Patriot and he was on staff last

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year, He was a consultant last
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He had been in the NFL since
2018, various various positions

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with the Lions, the Dolphins for
about 6 years there.

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But he's turned the keys over to
him.

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And the one thing if you if
y'all noticed and it kind of was

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pointed out, he likes to be a
little bit more aggressive.

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Where if you've known Clark Lee
like a Notre Dame and where he's

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coached, Clark Lee is a more
buttoned up approach.

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Very, do what you do, stay in
your zones and we're going to

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win the game.
This guy's a little bit

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different.
So saying all that, Brian, let's

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take a look at a few of these
players here and I know you and

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Tally got a couple guys
highlighted who you want to

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start with.
Let's start with CJ Hurd, man, I

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feel like he is the the biggest
playmaker on their defense.

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He's a very sure tackler, big
high motor guy and when you look

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at the back end of that defense,
he's really the quarterback of

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that defense.
He's their leader.

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He's the undisputed leader on
the defense.

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So he's really the biggest
difference maker that they have

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on that side of the ball.
Yeah, and he came in as a

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transfer from FAU and 80 plus
tackles last year there.

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Didn't play much, but found the
ball in the air against

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Charleston's southern 4th pick.
So he's already making his voice

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heard there.
And again, it's it's it's why

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you why you, you love the Portal
and why you hate the portal.

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Because in the old days he was
just played at FAU.

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He would have never made his way
up.

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So yeah, tally who you got you
want to talk about here?

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Mulan's brother?
Was it Elan?

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I don't even know where you're
from.

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I ain't going to try to
pronounce that last name, But D

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Taco.
D Taco didn't play in the first

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game, right?
We didn't.

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Get it in the.
First grain, but they they talk

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a lot about him.
Supposed to be a monster in the

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middle.
Hopefully we don't see him.

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I don't care if we don't see
him, but bro is.

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Big Man 667-3312, something like
that.

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It's a big dude, man.
He's a big son of a bitch.

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Yeah.
So we going to have to get him

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off the line.
You know, we're going to have to

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do some stuff to create some
space so we can move.

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But again, I don't think that
he's going to be more talented

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than what we've seen this past
week.

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And this is what I'll say just
about the team in general.

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No disrespect to Vanderbilt.
A lot of talk about Vanderbilt

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last year, right?
I know they're trying to build a

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program.
How many games did they win?

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Did they win six games?
They did.

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They won six games.
They're Virginia Tech, you know

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what I'm saying?
They a lot of people was, but

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I'm saying a lot of times people
last year were talking about

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them like because they beat
Alabama.

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This ain't the same Alabama as
when Nick was there.

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So no disrespect to Randy.
They beat us, they beat Alabama,

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but they still only won six
games.

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It's true.
We've got to go in and punish

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teams like this.
Just go in and play.

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Go in and do what you do.
Don't go in with this

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conservative shit.
If you can get these receivers

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one-on-one like South Carolina
was playing us, they can beat

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their they can beat their
corners.

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Let them go beat them.
Karen.

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I'm going to say this about
Karen too.

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Before we get to the end of
this, I was going to talk a

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little bit about it on keys to
win.

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If I'm a coach, I'm not a coach,
but if I'm a coach in that

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locker room or somebody
recruiting or, you know, one of

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them young ladies who help with
whatever they do.

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I will pull Karen to the side
and say, listen, man, this is

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what you need to do.
You ain't going to the NFL.

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This is just what I would say.
I don't know if he's going to

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the NFL or not.
You ain't going to the NFL.

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Just get that through your head
and think about this.

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You just need to focus on being
the best Virginia Tech

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quarterback that ever there ever
was, right?

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You may not be, but that's what
you need to focus on.

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You need to be the guy probably
like, what's the Texas

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quarterback that just left
Quinn?

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Yours, right, Yours.
Be the guy that gives Virginia

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Tech back.
You go out and you win eight

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games this year.
You can come to Blacksburg and

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do whatever you want to do.
You're always going to have a

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great name in Blacksburg just
because of what you did this

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year.
You ain't got no more years.

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If you got to run, go run.
If you got to throw, go throw.

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Go back to the bowl game when it
was raining.

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I don't know how many rushing
yards Kyron had.

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And I'm not saying we need to
run him like that, but I got so

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fucking tired of him.
And the commentators say, oh,

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they don't want him to take hits
like that.

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He ain't no he know what he
doing it like.

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He's been playing football a
long time.

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He's about the size of sellers.
They weren't saying sellers

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taking hits.
Sellers was getting crushed too.

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With a he's a strong guy.
He's able to get up.

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Kyron can do that too.
And he got.

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It he's not some injury prone
kid.

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That's, I get it.
Y'all are frustrated.

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Everybody's frustrated because
not y'all, but I'm saying the

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chat, the fans, because I've
heard people say, you know,

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Kyron is this and that Kyron
gives us the best chance to win.

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Kyron just has to go out and
beat Kyron.

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If you got to go and get 10
yards and get out of bounds, go

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do that.
If you got to go get 5 yards and

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get down, stop going head first,
slide and make them hit you and

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get 15 more yards.
Play this game smart.

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Go out and be the best Virginia
Tech quarterback that you can be

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and let the chips fall where
they may because there may be

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some more inspirations.
That may be some NFL in there.

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But we got to for Kyrie to get
to the next level, he's got to

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win eight games.
He's got to turn some heads with

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the fan base, with the people
who are watching him because

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right now he's an afterthought,
you know what I'm saying?

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When he's playing other, they're
going to talk about Diego Pavia

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more than they talk about Kyrie
$10,000 more and he's at your

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house.
When we played at Miami last

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year, he was pissed off and he
went into that game and you

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could tell that he wanted to
show that he was the same

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caliber as as, as, as Cam Ward.
Not saying that he is he's his

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own quarterback, but I'm saying
he should go into every game

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pissed off and say I'm going to
get disrespected.

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I got to go out and earn every
bit of respect I got to get.

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So if I got to run this
motherfucker 50 times a day for

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us to win, that's what I'm going
to do.

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Because if you go back and look
at MM was probably the best to

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do it at Virginia Tech, he would
have 100 yards passing and 100

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yards rushing.
If that's what he had to do to

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win.
Just saying I'm off my soapbox.

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I'm a let it go he.
Won't let it go, Shelton I'm I'm

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going to wrap this up a little
early.

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I'm going to hit one more player
and then we're going to get into

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keys because tally Cali, I'm
assuming you read some stuff and

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it just set y'all anything
offensively, defensively,

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statistically that is or data
wise jumping out to say if we're

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going to beat them or if they're
going to, if they're going to do

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the unthinkable, it's this.
Yeah, not really because you

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know, they they had some high
PFF graders like mouse capers,

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one of their they're edge guys,
third highest graded SEC player

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right now.
But again, only one opponent.

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It was really bad.
So I don't know how much to make

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of that.
But I would say look at some of

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the analytics.
They're they're pretty balanced

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overall offensively and
defensively, you know, top 45 in

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both, you know, both metrics.
So I don't know, I mean, they're

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they're kind of a little, a
little bit maybe what Vt was

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last year, just kind of good,
good on both sides of the ball,

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but not like a lead.
So yeah, I just, I, I don't know

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what to make of them yet, just
based on the small sample size

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and the fact that they, they
haven't really played anyone,

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anyone of notes.
Got it.

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All right, one last thing to
know, Brian, I'm going to just

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jump through this.
Langston Patterson, he's their

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leading tackler.
He got 10 tackles on us last

443
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:39,400
year.
Basically, motor guy, all that

444
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,560
fun stuff.
Langston Patterson, let's get to

445
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,760
the keys here.
Brian, I'm going to let you

446
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:45,920
lead.
I'm going to let Tally get his

447
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,320
breath here.
But Brian, what's your key to

448
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,040
this game?
You need to score points on

449
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,920
offense.
And I mean literally we didn't

450
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,440
score any points on offense of
the the special team scored.

451
00:24:57,360 --> 00:24:59,120
You know, they kick, they kick
some field goals.

452
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,840
We got a safety, but we didn't
score offensive points.

453
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,680
So you got to do that first.
That's the first thing you got

454
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,520
to do if you want to beat
Vanderbilt is actually score

455
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,840
offensive points.
So go out there and do that.

456
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,240
Let the let's, as Tally said,
let the chips fall where they

457
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,280
may.
Shelton, what about you?

458
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:14,880
What's the key for the Hokies
this week?

459
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:21,120
Yeah, I would say contain Pavia,
keep him in the pocket I

460
00:25:21,120 --> 00:25:24,480
mentioned you know his his
pocket numbers.

461
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,480
First of all, you want to you
want to pressure him obviously,

462
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:32,760
but he had 276 scramble yards
last year for Vanderbilt, 8

463
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,680
rushing touchdowns, of course,
one that came against Virginia

464
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,920
Tech.
So you got to limit him there

465
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,160
and just try to get as much
pressure on him as you can

466
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,840
because if you let him sit in
the pocket all day, he is going

467
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:42,520
to make you.
Pay for it.

468
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,040
All right?
I'm going to go to me next

469
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,400
because Tally lets you close it
out for me.

470
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,240
I'm going to pull up the wife's
little comment here.

471
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,800
Make him pay, make Pavia pay.
Be a goon.

472
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,760
Be the assholes.
You know what hit him?

473
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,480
Swimming, if you get a 15, make
him pay.

474
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:04,160
He's got moxie, he's got will.
But it's like anybody that's

475
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,000
ever been punched, you get keep
getting punched and keep getting

476
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,320
hurt.
A lot of times you lose that

477
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,800
energy to keep going forward.
You see it in boxing matches,

478
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,680
fights, UFC fights all the time.
Somebody keeps sticking you and

479
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,520
keep hurting you.
It's like I I got to do

480
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,760
something different here.
Make him pay.

481
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,160
Whether it's in the pocket or
when he scrambles, make him pay.

482
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,640
Good things will happen.
Tally.

483
00:26:29,360 --> 00:26:33,040
I'm going to keep saying it,
offense has to take the layups,

484
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,800
man, and you got to make them.
You know, if it's a 5 yard play

485
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,040
there, I'm not putting it all on
the quarterback, all on the

486
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,280
receivers, all in the line.
It's as a whole.

487
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,760
If it's a 5 yard pass, let's,
let's, let's get the five yard

488
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:51,520
pass.
You know, if there's a 10 yard

489
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,480
scramble, take the 10 yard
scramble.

490
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,000
Kind of like what you said,
Curtis, and what Dwight's saying

491
00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,520
in the in the chat.
I mean, you got to go out and

492
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,040
have a little bit of asshole to
you, man.

493
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,400
You got to go out and you got to
feel again.

494
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,840
I hate that.
I don't want nobody to think

495
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:12,320
that I'm putting this all on our
quarterback, but I got a lot of

496
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:17,520
faith in Karen drones, right?
And just for him, you know, he's

497
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,320
AI.
Don't think that we are.

498
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:25,480
I don't think that we have
anything else in the well that

499
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:29,880
is as good as him right now.
Maybe coming up, maybe some of

500
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,840
the youngsters, I don't know.
But if they were, if they were,

501
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,120
if they could be on the field
for us to win, they'd be on

502
00:27:36,120 --> 00:27:38,200
that.
So I need him to I need him to

503
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,880
go out and feel disrespected.
Like I said, they're coming to

504
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,520
your house that that you're
going to hear a lot about Diego

505
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,000
Pavia, another six and six
quarterback.

506
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,440
You know what I'm saying, that
that ain't one shit that

507
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,600
everybody's going to talk about
how great he is.

508
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,640
All Karen got to go out and do
is take the layups and put some

509
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,160
down points on the board.
Go some points.

510
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,920
Score some points.
All right, let's get our

511
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,920
predictions in here.
Shelton, I'm going to start

512
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,520
with.
You yes.

513
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:14,720
So my prediction I, I, I, my
brain says that pive is going to

514
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,360
light Vt up, which I think is
probably true.

515
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:20,120
However, I do think Vt is going
to find a way to get a win.

516
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:24,360
I think it will be the first one
score victory for the Hokies in

517
00:28:24,360 --> 00:28:31,880
three years.
I'll say I'll say 27 to 21 US

518
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,360
high score, but I do think the
Hokies will will find a way to

519
00:28:34,360 --> 00:28:38,560
get a win and get that power for
non conference losing streak off

520
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,520
their backs for the first time
in eight years.

521
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,840
Please please.
It was in the chat somebody had

522
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,440
It's eight years to the day,
West Virginia at FedEx Field

523
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:52,080
back in 2017, Brian.
Brian's got a y'all if y'all

524
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,160
didn't pay attention last week,
Brian's got.

525
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,720
Brian's got a vendetta right
now.

526
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,320
Yeah man, I I'm going to commit
to the bit at this point.

527
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,240
I got to see us take care of AP4
opponent before I'm going to

528
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,800
move off of this.
I've got us losing A1 score game

529
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,760
to Vandy 3027.
Jesus Christ.

530
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,000
Well, he said he's going to do
it, he said.

531
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,120
Until they proved him wrong.
He's got to.

532
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,080
I don't blame him.
You.

533
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,080
Got to show me you can take care
of business against a Power 4

534
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,920
out of conference at home, man.
And I haven't seen it.

535
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,240
So I need to see it.
And until I do, that's what I'm

536
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,880
going to have there.
You go tally.

537
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,960
What about you?
I want to go with Brian, but I

538
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,520
can't do it, man.
I just can't.

539
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,680
I can't say it.
You know what I'm saying?

540
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,840
Even if I thank it and believe
it, I can't say that.

541
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:42,000
So I got to say I'm leaning more
towards the shelf, but I think

542
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,960
it's going to be more like a 10
point win.

543
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,120
I'd be too nervous to say we win
in A1 score game.

544
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:52,800
So I'm going to say I'm going to
say a 10.10 point victory.

545
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:57,640
I don't know how how deep we go
into that, that scoring scoring

546
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,160
thing.
And I just want to hit on what

547
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:04,040
Andre Andre says here.
Just curious, is Drones really

548
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,600
better or does NIL have
something to do with him

549
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,960
starting?
Sometimes the NIL does have to

550
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,960
do what people starting.
Our coach is on the hot seat.

551
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,840
That seat is hot.
It fucking feeling like his ass

552
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,240
is feeling like pins and needles
are sticking it right now.

553
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,840
If somebody else is better,
they're going in the game.

554
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,080
If he goes out and he ain't good
enough, somebody else is going

555
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,080
in that game.
That's just my feeling.

556
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,600
If he doesn't have a good
practice, like if you don't,

557
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,160
somebody else would already be
in.

558
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,880
So I think drones is the best.
That's just my of of what we

559
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,160
have.
So that's just my assessment.

560
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,280
I could be wrong.
But back to what you asked

561
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,240
Curtis.
We going to win by 10 points.

562
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:53,160
Win by 10 points.
I I am going to go 3123.

563
00:30:54,000 --> 00:31:01,200
Technically that is A1 score
game, one score game, but I

564
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:06,200
think it's one of those things
where like the the faith I have

565
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:11,360
in the defense right now is I I
put up 23 and the way I'm seeing

566
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,880
this in my head, they're getting
to 23 would like a score with

567
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,360
one minute left to go.
Like like they had to drive the

568
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,520
whole field in the fourth
quarter and they finally punched

569
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,400
it in and you know, they have to
do it on side.

570
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,400
We recover game over, we kneel
on it.

571
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:30,040
So by 8, I think we all hope
it's this score though, so we

572
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,760
can all be.
I know Brian's going to come

573
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:33,960
over to the house Saturday
night.

574
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,960
We're going to have some drinks,
eat some food, watch a game.

575
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:43,600
So, yeah, but throw your
predictions because again, I'm

576
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,760
going to say this and I and I
and I said I was going to say at

577
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,640
the beginning of the program,
but I decided, hold on.

578
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:53,000
I think this is the biggest game
for Brent Pryor because if you

579
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,200
lose this one, there's going to
be a lot of people.

580
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,840
I'm not saying they're not going
to tune in, but like you, you

581
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,160
can't be the guy you started O
1-2.

582
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:06,120
You lost a home game.
Like you've got to win this game

583
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,480
because as you look at the
schedule, you win this game and

584
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,720
you start touting out
everything, right?

585
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:17,520
You could win quite a few in a
row going into October, but if

586
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,160
you don't win this one, there we
go.

587
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:21,480
It's going it's going to get
ugly.

588
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:25,720
They're.
Going to get ahead potentially,

589
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,840
I don't know, fast, maybe like
come November fast.

590
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,640
But was you?
On was you on X after this last

591
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,880
game?
You get, you know it's going to.

592
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,960
Get ugly off, Yeah, Whether the
whether the the win loss record

593
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,600
gets ugly or not, it's going to
get ugly behind the scenes.

594
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,880
That's what I'm saying.
Well, the whole thing is and,

595
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,480
and, and I made this point to a
guy at work today.

596
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,760
Y'all ready for it?
Brent Pride has two years left

597
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:54,120
on his contract.
Two years because he had a six

598
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:58,040
year contract.
First of all, this guy get fired

599
00:32:58,520 --> 00:32:59,640
because we ain't going to be
allowed.

600
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,800
Brian, you said at the beginning
back a couple weeks ago if we

601
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,720
ain't fired by mid-october, you
are not getting a new football

602
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,240
coach next year.
The second thing is going to be

603
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,520
the buy.
If you fire him this year, this

604
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:16,560
year and you got to pay 26 and
27 and then you got to pay, you

605
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,800
better have $30 million.
Whit's already screaming to the

606
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,960
board, I need more money.
If you fire Pry after this year,

607
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,480
better come up with $30 million
because that's going to be his

608
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:29,200
buyout, plus to pay a whole new
coaching staff at the rack rate

609
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,640
what we're doing now so
everybody can scream and bitch

610
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,040
and we need to fire him.
And I might agree with you, but

611
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,600
I look logically at things.
We ain't got $30 million just to

612
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,880
piss down and say you fired,
We're going to get a new coach.

613
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,720
We're bringing Chucky in.
That's what I've heard.

614
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,920
Then, then then it.
Better be about 220 million

615
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,200
because he ain't going to go for
the $5,000,000 a year.

616
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,040
Right they're.
Going to be about 8 1/2 to 9.

617
00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:59,320
There we go.
That's my thing.

618
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,400
Do the math and when the math
don't math y'all go.

619
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:03,800
Have to deal with Brent Frye
next year.

620
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,800
We can be out on him at this
year and we can still talk about

621
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,600
these guys and beating.
Happy for our players but he

622
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:10,480
going to be there next.
Year.

623
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,760
Look, if it gets bad, bad.
Then again, the chips will fall,

624
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,800
we'll get fired in mid-october
and everything will happen.

625
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,320
But.
But it ain't gonna get bad bad

626
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:22,199
till November.
Well, now if you, if, if you, if

627
00:34:22,199 --> 00:34:26,199
you are, oh, this bad, bad.
If you only have two wins and

628
00:34:26,199 --> 00:34:29,120
it's the middle of October,
that's when it gets bad, bad.

629
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,360
But the whole thing is you got
to get rid of wit first.

630
00:34:32,679 --> 00:34:34,560
That's what I'm saying.
That's when you fire wit like

631
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,920
you've If you know that bad in
mid-october, you're firing wit

632
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,920
so you can hire a new coach.
Urban Meyer ain't coming here.

633
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:42,520
Android ain't even putting that
up there.

634
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,040
What he said Urban Meyer.
He said.

635
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:46,560
Urban Meyer, you going to get on
his ass?

636
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,800
We got a better chance of
getting Michael Meyer than Urban

637
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,520
Meyer.
That's what I say all.

638
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,480
Right, as usual, it's always
fun.

639
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,160
We also had our big screeners
coming up.

640
00:34:59,960 --> 00:35:04,320
If somebody rode with Tally last
week, you ought to made yourself

641
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,360
some money.
Alone, dog.

642
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,240
Brian, Brian, you damn it, we
will run it up here.

643
00:35:10,240 --> 00:35:12,240
Current records will be showed
every week.

644
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:13,280
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.

645
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,120
Because I'm.
It wasn't a good week for me.

646
00:35:15,240 --> 00:35:16,960
It wasn't a good week for.
Me wasn't a good week.

647
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,040
Me and Shelton, we're just
average players here.

648
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,560
We're just doing things.
And you know, this is a weird

649
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:26,680
slate week because there's one
big, big game out there, but

650
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,400
there's a lot of other
intriguing games, like

651
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,760
intriguing, some rivalry games,
but just intriguing games.

652
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:38,760
I went with the Big 1, though.
It will be right over there on

653
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:43,080
Saturday night as the Hokies
take the big screen behind me as

654
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,800
Michigan and Underwood, who did
not look like a freshman on

655
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:52,880
Saturday, go in to Bootersuna
Country playing Oklahoma.

656
00:35:52,880 --> 00:36:00,280
Oklahoma laying 5 1/2.
I'm going to go Oklahoma here.

657
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:06,040
More for the home field
advantage than anything and for

658
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,080
the fact that Brent Venables is
on the hot seat.

659
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,040
We we talked about Brent Pry on
the hot seat.

660
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,720
Oklahoma got the money to fire
their coach, buy them out and go

661
00:36:13,720 --> 00:36:16,720
higher than you coach.
I think Oklahoma wins this one

662
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:18,480
good game.
I think it's going to be a good

663
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:23,240
game, like a touchdown win for
them, which covers the 5 1/2

664
00:36:23,240 --> 00:36:26,880
Shelton.
Yeah, I'm going to go oh, you.

665
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,040
I think they're I think they're
better than people think.

666
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:33,000
And I also think it's kind of
similar to a similar situation

667
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,520
to Vt where you got a coach
under a lot of pressure to win.

668
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,800
So I think they'll get kind of
a, you know, sort of a a much

669
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,560
needed win relative to you to
kind of kind of where they're at

670
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,240
as a program against, against
Michigan at home.

671
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,800
Tally.
We going Michigan, baby.

672
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,280
We going Michigan because they
keep coming in Virginia taking

673
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,520
players.
And that player was.

674
00:36:55,800 --> 00:37:01,520
That player was right above here
on the Friday night and the

675
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:06,880
truth is he lost to the high
school local and they ain't good

676
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,320
at football.
So and I know Luisa is a smaller

677
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,520
school Brian, but still if you
got the number 4 running back in

678
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,960
the whatever he is in the
country and you can't beat

679
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,000
Godwin.
Well, you still got to block.

680
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:25,000
It's true like.
At the end of the day, like if,

681
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,240
if you're not blocking that,
that running backs only going to

682
00:37:27,240 --> 00:37:31,000
be able to do so much.
Hey, we didn't block this.

683
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,280
We didn't block for certain
running backs in the 2000 and

684
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:34,920
they still got like 1000 yards
so.

685
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,720
Yeah, but it's relative, man.
Like the the gaps in high

686
00:37:37,720 --> 00:37:42,680
school, they swing real big.
It's not like a bad offensive

687
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:46,600
line in college is only
marginally worse than an average

688
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:50,960
offensive line.
So it can get a little crazy

689
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:52,440
there.
But yeah, I've got Michigan

690
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,600
here.
I like what they look like so

691
00:37:55,640 --> 00:38:00,040
far.
I I saw the the Brent Venables

692
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,840
thing getting passed around.
I came back through.

693
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,400
I was like, all right, hang on,
hang on.

694
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:07,640
Oh my.
God.

695
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,320
Those players are just lucky
that they didn't catch odds with

696
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,600
each other while they while that
was said, because ain't no way

697
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,560
they would have made it at that
press conference without Don

698
00:38:19,720 --> 00:38:20,720
anyway.
That's what I got.

699
00:38:20,720 --> 00:38:23,160
I got Michigan here.
He's got Michigan.

700
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,200
Let's go next.
What game?

701
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:32,120
Oh UVANC, tally your game.
Yeah, 2 opponents.

702
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:33,720
We got it.
We got to see this year.

703
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,320
Not saying I like either one,
but I got UVA winning this one.

704
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,640
UVA takes you from that.
OK, OK.

705
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,760
I've got State winning this one.
I I think these two teams aren't

706
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:54,200
that much different on paper and
I don't think that NC State's

707
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,360
going to run away with this one.
I think it is going to be about

708
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,440
A1 score game, but I think
they're at least going to cover

709
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:03,720
that 2 1/2 at home.
I think State covers the 2 1/2.

710
00:39:03,720 --> 00:39:07,400
State unfortunately had to play
ECU, who was in their Super Bowl

711
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,840
last weekend or last Thursday
night.

712
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,080
We know how that goes with the
with the G5 opponents.

713
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:19,520
And clearly Coastal is one of
those places that it's set up to

714
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:26,880
get rated every of the year.
Like seriously, because it's

715
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,600
going to be kids who can't get
into certain schools or lower

716
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,800
two stars who are athletic.
They're going to go to Coastal.

717
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,240
They're going to do something
freaky and it's going to be

718
00:39:35,240 --> 00:39:37,440
like, I know he ain't playing
because he hurt Braden Bennett

719
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,520
or that D line kid or those
other kids.

720
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,640
I think that's what I'm going to
say.

721
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,400
Coastal is next year, Coastal
will be good.

722
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,960
Then the year after that,
they'll lose everybody and suck

723
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,640
ass again.
NC State by 10.

724
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,680
Yeah, I'll, I'll take, I will
take NC State, I think.

725
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,800
I think you guys do for a
stinker and I like them at home.

726
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,120
UVA is due for a stinker.
They've done a lot of that in

727
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:05,480
the last like, half decades.
Yeah, Shelton, you are up next.

728
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:10,800
Yes, I went with the
appropriately named game El

729
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,920
Asico between Iowa and Iowa
State.

730
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:18,680
The the nickname derived it
derived from the horrid lack of

731
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,560
offense that always happens in
this game.

732
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,840
But we should do see some cool
defensive and special teams

733
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,600
plays.
So in this game, Iowa State -3

734
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:31,440
1/2 I will take the Cyclones.
Bam Talley.

735
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,960
I'm going to Iowa State.
I've only watched them play.

736
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,280
I haven't watched Iowa play.
And not saying they were great,

737
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,560
but I like what I seen out of
them, so I'm going to take Iowa

738
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,520
State.
Brian Siegler.

739
00:40:44,240 --> 00:40:47,600
I'm going to Iowa here.
There's not really any reason

740
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,680
here.
I'm just vibes.

741
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:53,040
I, I, I think I was going to be
come to play with this one and

742
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,400
I'm not sure exactly what we can
expect there.

743
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,280
So I'll take the I'll take the
Hawkeyes here.

744
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:03,880
He will take the Hawkeyes.
I am going to take the Cyclones

745
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,600
by 3 1/2.
I think they're set up to make

746
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,600
another good run this year.
The game overseas against Kansas

747
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:14,120
State, by the way, over under.
Anybody want to guess what it is

748
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,840
for this one?
34 1/2 I was.

749
00:41:17,720 --> 00:41:22,080
Going to say 2028.
It's over 40 this year, y'all,

750
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,600
It's 41 1/2.
So clearly Brian and Tally are

751
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,760
going to call their bookie and
say they ain't scoring 40

752
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,520
points.
You seen these two teams play.

753
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,320
Hammer the under.
Hammer the under.

754
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,840
So there, that is last but not
least.

755
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:40,560
Brian, where are you going?
We're going to Louisville, man.

756
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:45,240
We're we got the good old Jamie
Dukes heading down there to

757
00:41:45,240 --> 00:41:47,280
Louisville, taking on the
Cardinals.

758
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:52,840
Cardinals 13 1/2 favorite at
home there at that's a little

759
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,800
too rich for my blood.
JMU is definitely, I think going

760
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,360
to be the best team in the
Sunbelt this year.

761
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,600
I think this may be one of the
more talented teams they've had

762
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,240
in the last few years.
I think they're going to make

763
00:42:04,240 --> 00:42:05,760
this a close one.
I think it's going to be about a

764
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,480
10 point loss for the Dukes, but
I'll I'll take JMU here.

765
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,880
I'm going to go oppo of you and
not so fast.

766
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,480
I if anything, Jeff Braun can
score points and anytime he

767
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,280
plays like AG5 school, it feels
like he can just put up points.

768
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:25,040
I'm I'm, I think, I think it's,
it's one of those where it's,

769
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:29,240
it's like it's 10 as we go into
the fourth quarter and then they

770
00:42:29,240 --> 00:42:31,280
hit The Jets and win by 17.
OK, I was.

771
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,760
Going to say if this was 14 in
the hook would you have bit?

772
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,400
14 in the hook would have been
tough.

773
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:39,120
I'll ask you to pick another
game.

774
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:40,520
Game.
I.

775
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,080
Can't do this, Sheldon.
Who you got?

776
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,800
Yeah, I definitely think
Lowell's going to win.

777
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:48,920
I'd say probably by ten.
I thought it was kind of an

778
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:52,760
abnormally large spread.
But again, trust Vegas.

779
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,120
Vegas always knows.
I just, I just think Jimmy will

780
00:42:55,120 --> 00:43:01,120
do just quite enough to cover.
I'm going Louisville and Brian

781
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,640
said they're going to win by 10.
Why not win by four more 14?

782
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,800
That's all I.
Think oh man.

783
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,560
So there are all of our picks
for big screeners a lot of other

784
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,840
good games to keep an eye on on
Saturday.

785
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:17,880
I know we're not playing on this
year.

786
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:21,120
Illinois Duke could be tricky.
Illinois is like ranked in the

787
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:27,320
top ten probably for the first
time in maybe 15-16 years.

788
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,200
When what Juice.
Remember Juice Wells?

789
00:43:30,240 --> 00:43:33,000
Was that his name?
Juice Wells took him to the Rose

790
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,640
Bowl years ago.
Boston College.

791
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,440
Juice Williams.
Juice Williams, How did I say

792
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,240
wells?
I got it on there.

793
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,320
Jews.
Wells was the wide receiver.

794
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,440
It was at South Carolina, then
went to Old Hiss last year.

795
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:51,480
He is all over it, all over it,
all my fruit.

796
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,480
So boys, y'all got anything else
y'all want to add before we wrap

797
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,680
this up on this wonderful
Wednesday night?

798
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:04,440
Fuck country music and beat
bandy is it?

799
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,600
All right, with that, that wraps
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800
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:12,480
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801
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802
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803
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