This week we wrap up the Hokies bye week by giving each position a letter grade for their performance through this part of the season. We then turn our attention to Syracuse as we get to Know the Enemy. We wrap this week by giving our Hokie game prediction presented by PrizePicks.
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Music
and Welcome back to the Boundary
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Corner Podcast along with my
partners Brian Siegler and
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Shelton Moss.
I am Curtis Wilson in this
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Welcome to Sunday night boys.
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We haven't done a Sunday night
when in 62 weeks.
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It's been a while, man.
It's been a while since we
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rolled on Sunday night.
Not my favorite night, but you
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know what?
We're here.
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We're doing it.
We're we're we're going to put a
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good episode out there.
I'm looking forward to talking a
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little bit about Syracuse and.
Kind of putting a bow on the
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first half of the season for the
Hokies?
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Absolutely.
Sheldon, you've been a busy man
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this weekend.
What you told us is we were
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chatting off air here.
That's right.
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Been been working on the company
dime.
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They've got me performing other
duties as assigned.
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Other duties.
You got to love that caveat,
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right?
Like do you get emailed this or
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is it literally a face to face
telling it something?
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No, I just, I got to it's it's
just the the nature of working
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in sports, like you got to work
weekends.
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So you know, I've signed, I've
signed up for the job.
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I can't, you know, complain
about it too much, but hopefully
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there will be better days ahead.
Absolutely it will.
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It will.
And you know you're able to join
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us tonight, not on a Tuesday,
because there are times where
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you cannot join us midweek.
So it's great to have you here.
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As y'all can see, we are not a
four pack tonight because our
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man Tally had to take his
daughter for a collegiate visit
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today and was going to be
getting back late this evening.
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So again, we get it.
We get it.
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Things like this happen to all
of us and.
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Somewhat impromptu, so we had
to, you know, make it happen,
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Make it work.
Life, man.
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Yep.
That's why that's what it is.
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I'm I'm, I'm, I'm happy for him
and happy for her that they're,
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they're getting that
opportunity.
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So absolutely what it's all
about and it's Sunday night.
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Our me and Brian said we'll
occasionally snap up because it
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is essentially sports.
It's the peak sports season
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right now with collegiate and
Pro Football going on.
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Get the Dolphins and the Eagles
and game six Astros, Rangers
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have it.
We're two days away from
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basketball getting going.
Oh my God, it's, it's, it's,
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it's that time of year.
Yeah man, it's great.
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Like next week is Peak Sports
week.
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I don't care what anybody says
next week is Peak Sports week of
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the entire year.
Argue with me if you want but
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it.
I mean it is.
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I mean World Series will be
starting.
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You're in the midst of right in
the middle of the seasons.
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Things are starting to stay
shape.
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College football poll comes out
or the playoff picture comes out
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starts.
It's just it's that magical time
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of year.
Plus it's Halloween.
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Oh yeah, Halloween.
And if we saying that, let's go
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ahead and make this
announcement, we will be going
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live next Monday night because
ain't no way.
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You ain't going to see us on
Halloween night, man.
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I mean, you might see me start,
start the the show on Monday
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night, you know, wearing like,
AI don't know, screen mask or a
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hockey mask or some shit.
But yeah, something like that.
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You know we're not going to do
it on Halloween.
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Absolutely.
All right.
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So tonight what do we have for
y'all?
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Well as always we've got know
the enemy.
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We are going to be taking a look
at Syracuse Orange man.
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Some of their players schemes
for the battle in Lane Stadium
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on Thursday night which will be
I think is a 730 kick.
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But before we get into that, we
want to do a little mid season
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grades because it's almost in
our bylaws we have to do a mid
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season grade like if not the
sports Podcast post, we might
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have to be taken to trial
because we didn't do one for our
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team and similar to some of the
questions we had to ask.
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Brett, the bylaws, They won't
even let us put the show out if
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we don't.
Yeah, they won't.
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They're like you can't do it
unless you do this episode this
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week.
But we're going to do some mid
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season grades here and we're
going to look at offense then
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defense and just kind of give
where we feel as a team we are
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and let's just jump into that
and let's start with obviously
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the most talked about room in
Hockey Nation and that is the
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quarterback room and obviously
right now Kyron Drones is
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leading the way.
We did start out with Grant,
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Wells and Sheldon, I'm going to
start with you.
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What grade do you give that room
for the season so far?
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Well, all things considered, I
mean, I'd say give him AAB
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minus.
I mean, I think Karen Jones came
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in for an integrant.
Wells did pretty well.
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I think he's progressed in terms
of his understanding of the, you
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know, the Mentals part of the
game, making reads in the RPO
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game, making reads in the
throwing game.
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I think his, his accuracy has
gotten better, His confidence
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has gotten better and forgot
that, you know, it was kind of a
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project coming out of high
school, you know, first full
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time year as a time as a
starter.
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I think there is, There's a lot
to like and I think some of the,
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you know, PFF grades have
reflected that he's done, he's
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done pretty well and still just
a red shirt sophomore.
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So I'm pretty, I'm pretty happy
with that.
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I mean, obviously with Wells you
can't really, you know, judge
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based off, you know, 1 1/2
games.
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But just looking at what Jones
has done this year, I think I
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there's a lot of reasons to be
very confident about how he's
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he's developed.
So just a sophomore Brian?
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Right there with Sheldon I got
AB minus and and pretty much
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similar reasons I mean.
You know you you kind of
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discount everything that we saw
from from Grant Wells.
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I'm I'm looking at this room
primarily on what Drones has
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done and what Drones has been
able to progress throughout the
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starts that he's had.
Looking back, you know that last
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series against Purdue and then
kind of how he's progressed as a
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as a starting quarterback since
then.
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It's really been good to see him
get acclimated in the offense.
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As Shelton said, get a lot more
confidence running the offense.
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I think that was probably the
thing that took a little while
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to kind of get there is that he
knows he's a, he's a gamer, he's
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a baller.
But there are times when you got
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to rein that in.
There's times when you got to
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unleash that and kind of getting
that feel within the constructs
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of Tyler Bowen's system, I think
is what took him a little while
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to kind of get under his feet.
But I'm liking what I'm seeing
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and it's only probably going to
get better from here.
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So looking forward to see what
he can do on the back half here.
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Well, see, I'm not that far
behind y'all, but I take into
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the account everything that
happened.
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I meant like ACC Plus right
there on that edge.
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And here's why.
Because again, the mistake was
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made to start Grant Wells to
begin the season you slit,
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drones start against ODU and
Purdue against probably the two
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worst offensive teams we've seen
all year.
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How much better are we today?
So I give him an A minus.
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In my opinion, drones is an A
minus by himself.
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The well stuff and how that was
handled up to this point put me
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just slightly above average.
But to the court y'all both said
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the maturation of Kyron is
impressive because he had to
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come in.
Don't you wish we would have
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went Rutgers, Marshall, then
Purdue, Old Dominion?
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Wouldn't it that, but because he
comes in against a six and two
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bowl eligible Rutgers team in a
very good defense in Marshall,
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that's what he has to come out
the gate against.
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And you saw him.
He took his lumps, he took his
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things and now you're starting
to see him get and improve more
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and more with the film.
So I'm going to again AC plus
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right out of C in that room.
I'm going to flip to the running
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back room next.
And even though the stats aren't
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there, based on everything
that's going on in front of them
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and everything that's happened,
I think the way primarily
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Malachi Thomas and big shout out
to Basil Tune give me AB Plus
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for that room.
They are breaking tackles.
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They are making positive yards
and ever since the switch to
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drones we see we are every week.
We're going up in the offensive
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rushing categories every week.
I want to say we're averaging
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now like 178 since Kyron has
become the quarterback.
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That's that's one of those
things.
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If you take a look at the
numbers out there, 178 puts you
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in the top 50, roughly.
If you tell me we're a top 50
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rushing teams, I don't think we
lose the Purdue game.
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I think the Rutgers game is a
lot more of a battle.
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At that point, we'll say you,
Shelton.
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Yeah, I'd go, I'd go B plus.
I mean, I think, you know,
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obviously baseball tunes been
awesome.
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You know, he's forced a ton of
his tackles.
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I don't.
I was trying to look up the
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numbers, but you know.
A lot of his tackles obviously
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means you know you're you're
early line and is not
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necessarily doing the job that
you you want them to be.
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Ideally you'd like to have more
you know breakaway breakaway
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carries but regardless you know
he's he's he's brought a lot of
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explosiveness to that room and I
think Thomas is a guy that kind
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of struggled out of the gate but
he did have a really good game
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against Wake Forest.
So put those two together I I'm
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overall I'm pretty pleased with
that.
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It's obviously with running
backs it's hard to judge because
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you know, so much of their
success is dependent on other
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people, not just the online but
also the the passing game too.
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But if you just try to isolate
them individually, I think
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they've done very well.
Yeah, I'm not too far behind
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you, Sheldon.
I'm.
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I've got AB for for this group.
I think overall, I think if
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Thomas had been putting his
output similar to what we've
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seen from Tuden, you know, in
games other than probably the
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last two weeks, I'd probably
have them ready to B plus or B
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but with him having a little bit
of trouble getting going.
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That's that kind of brought it
down to just a just to be for
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me.
But you know, I think that
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looking at Tootin, he's really a
dynamic player coming out of the
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back field.
We've seen what he can do,
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catching the ball, making guys
miss, breaking tackles.
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I like the way he finishes his
run.
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So seeing that out of that room,
if we can just get marginally
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better offensive line play, you
know, I think that room could
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really break out but.
You know, they're starting to
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just kind of turn a corner a
little bit, especially now with
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with drones in the game as well,
giving them a little bit more
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space to operate.
And and y'all both mention
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Malachi, Thomas Malachi over his
last couple of games, averaging
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just under 6 yards a carry.
That is really nice as a
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complimentary back to what we
know Tootin can do.
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All right, let's flip over to
the skill positions and let's
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talk about the wide receiver in
the tight end.
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Brian, you leave me with this
one where you feel, what do you
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feel this room is at?
I got them at a mine is probably
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the best overall grade that I'm
going to give on the whole team.
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I think the wide receiver
output, especially considering
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that Ollie Jennings has went
down that room has really
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performed well overall.
And you know looking at the
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tight ends, I think it's kind of
up and down.
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You know we also had an injury
there so there's been some and
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and other guys have been nicked
up as we went along.
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So it's it's been a lot of.
Couple big injuries in those
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those rooms, but they've still
taken it in stride and really
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have kind of elevated the
offensive play.
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It's kind of we've gone along
through the season, so excited
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about that room and and excited
to see what they can do down the
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stretch.
What about you, Sheldon?
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What about the wideout room and
any any scores, any PFF grades
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that jumped out to you?
No, I mean, honestly for this
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one I, you know, I think we
don't even need to look at the
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grades really.
You can kind of just see the the
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added explosiveness.
I mean I think Jalen Lane
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presents a yak yards after catch
slash speed element that Tech
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has been lacking for for quite a
few seasons even, you know
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during some of the Fuente years
where they had some good wide
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receivers and you know obviously
Ally Jennings beyond hurts a lot
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because you know he's going to
be a big time player.
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I think Felton's been, you know
a little bit up and down.
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Would have liked to see more
production from him but you know
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it's you're not going to get
everybody the ball with you know
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a more of a a more of a run
heavy offense so.
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I think they've done a pretty
good job and I think the
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blocking for the most part has
been pretty good too.
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Like that's something that, you
know, I know that Coach Minds is
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big on the details.
You look at the pit game, you
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know they run the ball outside
constantly and those play, those
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plays don't work unless you get
good perimeter blocking.
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So I think the biggest
encouraging thing for me is the
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fact that our perimeter blocking
is is much more up to par than
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it has been in recent seasons.
Yep.
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And I'm with Brian on this one
in both of y'all this room.
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It like you said, we really
probably didn't even need to
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talk about it.
But it's still fun to because
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I've got this one rated at an A.
And you kind of look up and down
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and you talk about guys being up
and down, Shelton.
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But the up and down is for a
good reason because there are so
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many guys to distribute the ball
to.
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You know, Daquan Felton just the
other day had like 3 catches for
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what, 1920 yards?
A couple of them are stick
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movers, very important.
But Steven Gosnell lit it up
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along with Jay Lane last week.
They all have their niche rolls.
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Yes, you have Felton, who can
take it off the top lane, who
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can make people miss in space,
Gosnell, who's great at finding
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those zones.
And then the two young tight
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ends with Gosnell and Wright.
You know, those guys, you know,
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have a combined 25 catches, you
know, 327 yards.
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They're averaging over 10 a
catch.
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They're averaging over 10,
actually over 12 a catch.
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And when you had all that on the
field, are there going to be
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games where they get one catch?
Yes, but that catch may be a
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huge play.
I go back to last week's game
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and that wheel route that was
caught by Daquan right down on
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the sideline, how big a play
that was.
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It moved us right to the other
side of the field and like I
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said, with Felton catching a few
first downs.
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So everybody's playing a role
there.
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And and that's what we did not
have last year.
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We had one guy last year who was
effectively able to do that.
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And now we have multiple at
different levels.
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All right, let's go to the
offensive line.
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Brian, hold your tongue.
You're going last on this one.
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But Shelton, sorry, man, sorry,
you're going, you're going to
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blow us up with some stuff.
Shelton, what is your grade on
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the offensive line and your
justifications behind it?
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Look, I'll go, I got to go D
plus.
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I mean I'm sorry, but it's just
been it's been rough.
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I mean you know there's there's
ways with the events that we
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have now to isolate offensive
line play from running back
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play.
So obviously when you look at
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yards per rush, that's colored
by, you know, quarterback
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scrambles, quarterback runs
design runs and obviously
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running backs breaking up big
plays.
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But when you'll get things like,
you know, line yards per carry,
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you know, for most of the
season, Tech was absolutely one
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of the worst in the country.
One of the worst in Power Five,
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certainly.
Now it has gotten better over
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the past couple weeks.
I think they're last time I
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checked they were somewhere
around like 107 out of 133,
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something like that.
It was like below 125 for for
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some time.
So it's just been a rough man
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and like I, you know, I, I watch
the games on tape, you know, you
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can see it on film.
It's just they're some, it's
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part of it.
I think it's physicality but
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also part of it's just, you
know, missed assignments and I
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don't know what the corrections
are.
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Obviously they've got to, you
know, tweak the roster once the
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offseason comes around.
But you know, we we could get
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into all the reasons why the
personal is the way it is.
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But I just, I don't think the
issues are correctable and I got
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to go D plus, I'm sorry it's
been that bad.
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All right.
I am a slight, just one plus
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below you.
I'm at AD for that line.
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It could be lower.
It could be almost a failure.
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But I will say this, of that
line, the one thing that has
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kind of been a slight bright
spot is seeing three guys who
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all have AFR next to their name
have some of the higher scores.
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You know you shared with us last
week.
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Xavier Chaplin scored,
unbelievable in all aspects
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against Wake Forest.
Braylon Moore scored very well.
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Kayden Moore, which let we
should do an episode.
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Just Brian discussing the center
position and the difficulty and
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why a great bad grade to have
there and then seeing Brody
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Meadows come on.
Those guys have been bright
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spots.
They're they're freshmen.
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So when you see missed
assignments and stuff like that,
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obviously y'all know where we
feel about the other guys and
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how we've discussed it.
But it has been below average
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and to be three and four and the
running game slowly getting
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going.
Not having that good of an
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offensive line is something, but
it's also what you just said,
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Shelton.
Things have to be things have to
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be done in the offseason and
it'll be interesting to see that
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now.
Brian.
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My turn.
Your turn.
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D minus how low of AD minus on a
scale of.
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Zero to two.
So when I when I was first, my
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instinct was to give it an F and
then I was like, no, and it's
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because of what you just said,
Curtis.
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It's because we've got guys with
freshmen next to their name that
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are showing some potential, that
are showing some bright spots,
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that are starting to put things
together a little bit on the
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offensive line.
That shows that.
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Crook is getting is getting
something out of them he we're
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making some progress on that
front but I'm also with Sheldon.
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I don't think that what's there
is I think we're we're we're
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kind of getting as much juice
out of them at this point as I
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think we're going to get out of
them the rest of the season.
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I don't know if you're going to
see necessarily the the, the,
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the steps that we've seen from
those freshens going forward,
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it's going to be more like those
little.
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Tick up, tick up here, tick up
there and, but you're still
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looking at a right side.
That's pretty atrocious and
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that's not really going
anywhere, it seems.
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So, all right, last question, If
there is a change on the
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offensive line, do we see it
Thursday?
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I think if you're going to see a
if they're going to make a
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switch that's going to be a full
time switch, that's when you
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would see it in terms of the
depth chart.
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So I guess we'll find out.
What Tuesday when the depth
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chart comes out, if any, any
adjustments have been made
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there, but you know it.
Barring that, I don't see us
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making a significant leap going
forward.
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I think it's, you know, it might
get into Shelton's range where
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I'd give it AD Plus, but I don't
think we're really going up a
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letter grade here.
Brian says no letter grade up.
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We'll we'll we'll see, you know,
I'm sure we'll do something
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similar to this in a few weeks
here and see how it feels.
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All right, let's flip over to
the defensive side of the ball
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and let's start with the
defensive line.
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So, Siegel, I'll get you to
floor on this one how you feel
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about the defensive line so far.
I'm giving AB minus.
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I think we've seen some really
bright spots, especially from
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Antoine Powell Ryland, you know
he's getting up there in sacks
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in the nation.
We've seen him be able to impact
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the plays even when he's not
getting to the quarterback, just
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with that speed and people
having to identify him pre snap.
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I think the.
The interior guys have been kind
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of up and down, but I I like
seeing Fidarius Payne really
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come into his own and really
become an impact player on that
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defensive line.
That's somebody we were hoping
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at the start of the season we
would just get something out of
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in that rotation.
And he's really kind of been, in
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my opinion, one of the best
players on the defensive line,
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especially now that he's getting
enough reps to kind of show
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that.
So those are kind of the bright
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spots there.
You know, I think there were
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some problems along there.
They where they weren't giving
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enough to kind of help some of
the other deficiencies we have
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in that running game.
So that's probably where I'm
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knocking them down a little bit,
but I think overall they've
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they've played pretty well so
far this year.
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Sheldon, what about you?
Yeah, I'm going to give a solid
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C plus.
Again, I'm grading on a curve.
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You got a bunch of C You got a
bunch of seniors on that D line,
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and if they were freshmen, I
might be more charitable, but.
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I just think, you know, to be
honest, they just they don't
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have the dudes.
I mean the interior guys have
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been kind of pushed around a
little bit.
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I just, you know, when you look
at guys like Kendricks and
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Pollard, yeah, they've done OK.
But they just don't live in the
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backfield.
Like they're not you know,
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eating up space and and getting
to the QB and and you know,
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stuffing those run lanes.
Obviously defensive ends have
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been pretty good.
Felder Felder's pain has been
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awesome.
AP Rs been really good.
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Both those guys have generated
lots of QB pressures.
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So you know it kind of a a kind
of a hit or miss type of
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situation where you got a lot of
production from your DS, but not
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so much from the D TS.
I think overall it's been pretty
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average and we know that the
Russian grades aren't very good.
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But again, part of that gets
back to the linebackers, which
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you know, obviously we'll
discuss very shortly.
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We will discuss them very
shortly.
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I'm actually going higher than
both of Y'all Shelton.
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You're a full letter grade below
me.
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I think I'm going B plus because
the middle.
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It's done what I expected.
The interior has done what I
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expected.
They have, not really.
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Significantly fallen off the
Cliff.
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They played good at times.
Pain has been the bright spot
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there, but really the edge guys
have really stepped it up like
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Y'all mentioned with APR and you
know you're seeing, you know
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Cray play solid.
You're seeing those guys play
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solid and contribute and they
are younger guys.
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Again, I think maybe my curve
was.
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I know what I'm going to get out
of this group.
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So as long as they get what I
expect and these outside guys do
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better, I'm going to be a little
bit more lenient.
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And that's what I want on this
one.
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And hey, somebody's with me.
B plus on that.
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All right, Shelton, since you
brought it up, I'll let you lead
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right into it.
Where's your grade on the
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linebacker room?
Yeah, I'm going D Mayas.
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I mean, I just don't know what
very little redeeming qualities
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with this group.
Look, they played, they played
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better against Wake Forest.
That's no doubt about that.
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But for the most part, I mean
it's just been horrible like so
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I mean we are again one of the,
you know, bottom 10 percentile
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and pretty much all the rushing
stats.
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And when you look at the number
of explosive plays, it's pretty
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clear that the linebackers are
the problem because you know, in
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terms of success rate, I think
Tech is more kind of middle of
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the pack.
So like they're they're getting,
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you know, some stops.
It's just that when when those
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running backs get to the second
level, when they do have a
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successful play, it tends to be
really successful.
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It tends to be a big play.
So that's an indication that
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your second level guys aren't
getting the job done.
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And you know, between Allen,
Tennessee, who struggled and you
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know Kay Lawson who's had his
moments, I just, I I just have a
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hard time looking at this group
and seeing what you know, what
445
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:15,210
they've done well.
I'm just to me, I'm just average
446
00:23:15,210 --> 00:23:19,010
because I think we're a lot of
those bad grades you see come
447
00:23:19,010 --> 00:23:22,250
at.
It's when people who are not
448
00:23:22,250 --> 00:23:27,210
seeing the field anymore were
there and we saw that numerous
449
00:23:27,210 --> 00:23:30,650
times and numerous games.
I'm not saying Lawson and the
450
00:23:30,650 --> 00:23:35,690
rest of them are like blowing it
out the water, but to me, I I
451
00:23:35,690 --> 00:23:39,170
kind of look at this and say
here's the really bad part.
452
00:23:39,170 --> 00:23:42,610
If I Add all this, I'm probably
AD Plus.
453
00:23:42,890 --> 00:23:46,130
C minus low.
But then what I saw happen
454
00:23:46,130 --> 00:23:48,290
though was the decision was made
right?
455
00:23:49,250 --> 00:23:51,890
There's certain guys we have not
seen on the field at the
456
00:23:51,890 --> 00:23:54,690
linebacker spot in weeks, at
least not as much.
457
00:23:55,130 --> 00:23:59,490
Not as hardly any.
And when I see that, it's like
458
00:23:59,490 --> 00:24:02,610
if I take a look at the snapshot
of who's now playing significant
459
00:24:02,610 --> 00:24:05,890
reps, it's AC.
If you so, Shelton, if you want
460
00:24:05,890 --> 00:24:08,770
me to do the whole thing, give
me AC minus.
461
00:24:09,430 --> 00:24:12,990
What's the grading scale?
It would be a 70 on the number
462
00:24:14,110 --> 00:24:16,230
if you ask me to look at as a
whole.
463
00:24:16,230 --> 00:24:18,670
But for the guys who are
significantly getting the reps
464
00:24:18,670 --> 00:24:24,670
now I'll give them for that mid
you know mid C grade Ron yeah
465
00:24:24,670 --> 00:24:29,910
I'm I'm AC minus just bad run
fits for for weeks and weeks.
466
00:24:31,750 --> 00:24:34,870
You know, really the Wake Forest
game is the only game I think
467
00:24:34,870 --> 00:24:36,870
you can point to and say they
had.
468
00:24:37,270 --> 00:24:41,270
They did a really good job both
consistently and with stopping
469
00:24:41,270 --> 00:24:43,550
the explosive plays, 'cause we
still have some explosive play
470
00:24:44,070 --> 00:24:48,470
against Pitt's Pitt, even though
we more or less held them in
471
00:24:48,470 --> 00:24:52,830
check.
It's just it's it's been
472
00:24:52,830 --> 00:24:56,030
inconsistent in the run game.
I mean if if you told me just to
473
00:24:56,030 --> 00:25:00,350
grade how they've held up
against the past, I mean pretty
474
00:25:00,350 --> 00:25:02,590
well overall.
I mean they we haven't been
475
00:25:02,590 --> 00:25:05,110
thrown on much mainly because
they can run the ball against us
476
00:25:05,350 --> 00:25:10,450
fairly well.
But if if we continue to see the
477
00:25:10,450 --> 00:25:14,890
type of play we've seen kind of
I'd say even the last three
478
00:25:14,890 --> 00:25:19,650
weeks going forward, I mean this
grade could maybe get up to AC
479
00:25:19,850 --> 00:25:24,010
plus I don't see it.
Again similar to what I said
480
00:25:24,010 --> 00:25:26,410
with the offensive line, I don't
know if this necessarily gets a
481
00:25:26,450 --> 00:25:31,410
full letter grade jump, but now
if we see what we saw against
482
00:25:31,410 --> 00:25:33,490
Wake the rest of the season,
then yeah, I can see a full
483
00:25:33,490 --> 00:25:35,890
letter grade jump.
But I think, I think the last
484
00:25:35,890 --> 00:25:38,890
three weeks on a whole is more
indicative of what they are
485
00:25:38,890 --> 00:25:42,010
capable of.
I think the first few weeks was
486
00:25:42,090 --> 00:25:45,690
probably bottom of the barrel
and I think it was some of that
487
00:25:45,690 --> 00:25:48,930
adjustment of all right, well,
this guy has some ability here,
488
00:25:48,930 --> 00:25:51,610
but he's not doing the right
thing consistently.
489
00:25:51,650 --> 00:25:53,050
So we got to get him out of the
game.
490
00:25:53,530 --> 00:25:56,890
You got to pull the guys out.
They have ability and that's
491
00:25:56,890 --> 00:25:59,370
kind of the way it is.
Again, that's I think that's how
492
00:25:59,370 --> 00:26:02,210
we look at things.
It would be really interesting
493
00:26:02,210 --> 00:26:04,450
to Cindy at the end of the
season.
494
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,200
And this, I think this would go
for every group would be pull it
495
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:13,640
out and look at snap counts
starting at ODU in a chart like
496
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,480
by the end of the season where
guys are who started getting
497
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,920
more reps who lost their reps
and then seeing how that overall
498
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,160
play is, especially in the
linebacker room.
499
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:24,400
All right.
We're going to look at the
500
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:28,560
safety room next.
And I'm, I'm going C minus and
501
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:32,800
this was my seventy.
It almost was AD plus because
502
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,810
the safety room.
Was struggling for a while
503
00:26:35,810 --> 00:26:38,570
there.
And that's what happens when you
504
00:26:38,570 --> 00:26:43,530
have a guy who's converted from
the offense in the offseason and
505
00:26:43,530 --> 00:26:46,290
you have a true freshman playing
Nasir Peoples.
506
00:26:46,770 --> 00:26:50,930
Although Nasir is a good player.
Nasir was.
507
00:26:50,930 --> 00:26:53,290
This was the ship that steadied
everything back there.
508
00:26:53,290 --> 00:26:56,850
Dalen Stroman's a great player.
I have no doubts about that.
509
00:26:57,170 --> 00:27:00,370
But when the next two guys were
young, that inexperienced or
510
00:27:00,370 --> 00:27:02,650
you're rotating canteen or
delaying in?
511
00:27:03,190 --> 00:27:06,070
It really hurt that room a lot
and that's why thankfully
512
00:27:06,070 --> 00:27:09,830
people's got over that injury
and he's back because if he
513
00:27:09,830 --> 00:27:12,310
hadn't been back the last few
weeks, this would have been AD
514
00:27:12,350 --> 00:27:14,990
plus grade for me.
But with him back and kind of
515
00:27:14,990 --> 00:27:17,430
steadying the ship back there
both in pass and run coverage,
516
00:27:17,430 --> 00:27:22,670
give me AC minus Brian, we said
at the start of the year that
517
00:27:22,670 --> 00:27:25,790
depth was a big concern at the
safety position and.
518
00:27:26,110 --> 00:27:28,030
We did.
That played out like a
519
00:27:28,030 --> 00:27:29,670
motherfucker for about the first
month.
520
00:27:32,470 --> 00:27:34,270
Just I mean that that that's
what happened.
521
00:27:34,270 --> 00:27:37,910
I mean we we ended up having a
converted wide receiver and a
522
00:27:37,910 --> 00:27:45,270
true freshman as our primary
safeties for large chunks of
523
00:27:45,270 --> 00:27:52,030
time in about 3 or four games.
That's not what you want and and
524
00:27:52,030 --> 00:27:56,270
that and I'm not taking anything
away from Jalen or or most, but
525
00:27:57,070 --> 00:28:00,030
sometimes you're just not quite
ready for, for that type of
526
00:28:00,030 --> 00:28:03,150
responsibility that early in
your career, that early in your
527
00:28:03,150 --> 00:28:08,390
transition to a new position.
I think they are players that at
528
00:28:08,390 --> 00:28:14,750
this point are fine for series
at a time here or there, maybe
529
00:28:14,750 --> 00:28:17,990
even 1/4 at a time here or
there, but they're not ready to
530
00:28:17,990 --> 00:28:19,510
hold up for four quarters like
that.
531
00:28:20,340 --> 00:28:24,100
And when you have that coupled
with inconsistent linebacker
532
00:28:24,100 --> 00:28:28,340
play coupled with an interior
defensive line that kind of can
533
00:28:28,340 --> 00:28:32,260
get moved around a little bit,
that's a recipe for big plays.
534
00:28:32,300 --> 00:28:36,020
And that that's what we saw.
And you know, you know, you can,
535
00:28:36,060 --> 00:28:38,620
we can kind of stack it level by
level here.
536
00:28:38,620 --> 00:28:41,020
But the safety, I mean that
there's a reason it's called a
537
00:28:41,020 --> 00:28:45,620
safety, right?
So at some point, they've got to
538
00:28:45,620 --> 00:28:47,180
make the play that stops the
touchdown.
539
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,840
Betray Shelton.
Yeah, I'll go see.
540
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,560
I mean kind of what you were
talking about the with the
541
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,880
linebackers.
Curtis, this isn't a situation
542
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,000
where obviously the personnel in
the field is not what the
543
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,640
coaches wanted to come into the
season.
544
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,280
You got guys like most of those
playing meaningful snaps.
545
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,520
Jalen Jones and Kale Bootsen are
two are the two worst graded
546
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,360
safeties in the ACC.
It's just been a constant
547
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,280
revolving door.
So it's kind of hard to judge.
548
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,160
Obviously, like you mentioned,
people losing Peoples was big.
549
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,100
Stroman's been good.
I think the guys that when you
550
00:29:18,100 --> 00:29:21,180
look at the guys that they they
expected to start the season,
551
00:29:21,180 --> 00:29:22,660
the guys that they wanted in
there, I think they've done
552
00:29:22,660 --> 00:29:24,580
pretty well.
It's just been a constant
553
00:29:24,580 --> 00:29:27,780
revolving door.
So again, you know, I I give, I
554
00:29:27,780 --> 00:29:30,100
give them AC grade, but it's
with the context that they just
555
00:29:30,100 --> 00:29:31,660
have not had any sort of
continuity there.
556
00:29:32,420 --> 00:29:34,700
Yeah, and hopefully with people
finally coming back, like I
557
00:29:34,700 --> 00:29:39,740
said, steady the ship to what?
Bryant Touché.
558
00:29:41,180 --> 00:29:43,340
All of the above.
All of the above.
559
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,680
Love that one.
All right, let's flip it one
560
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,760
more room as we wrap up this
segment and let's talk about the
561
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:54,680
corner back room.
Brian, I'll let you lead with
562
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,880
this one.
I'm going to go a a very solid B
563
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,880
plus.
So this is a 89 if we're, if
564
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,440
we're on the 10 point scale it's
a 89.
565
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,880
I like what I've seen from the
cornerbacks.
566
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,720
The lane has been as advertised,
strong, probably coming back and
567
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,320
having his best year since his
freshman campaign.
568
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,720
I've liked what I've seen from
Canteen especially, you know,
569
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,160
him being able to get some
turnovers in there, that's been
570
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,480
big for this defense.
So those guys have held up and
571
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,040
I've liked what I've seen from
the true freshman that have
572
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,120
gotten some run at that
position, you know.
573
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,680
So it's it's really been a good
overall performance.
574
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,640
The only knock I'm going to give
is that they haven't been tested
575
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,800
a ton this year, so I don't know
how good they truly are.
576
00:30:41,140 --> 00:30:43,700
So that's kind of why I'm I'm
holding back from putting an A
577
00:30:43,700 --> 00:30:46,900
grade on them yet.
But overall, I like I I like
578
00:30:46,900 --> 00:30:48,100
what I've seen.
So I'm going to give them AB
579
00:30:48,100 --> 00:30:50,900
Plus.
Sean, what about you?
580
00:30:51,900 --> 00:30:55,980
Yeah, I'll go BI think.
Canteen's been a good depth that
581
00:30:55,980 --> 00:30:58,980
he's, he's graded out really
well in terms of run defense.
582
00:30:59,500 --> 00:31:02,100
Strong has been fantastic in
coverage all season long.
583
00:31:02,700 --> 00:31:05,180
I I think overall, like you
said, they haven't been tested
584
00:31:05,180 --> 00:31:06,500
much.
So I think that's kind of where
585
00:31:06,500 --> 00:31:08,900
some stats can be misleading in
terms of the the pass yards per
586
00:31:08,900 --> 00:31:11,980
game, allowed yards per attempt.
It's still good, not as good,
587
00:31:11,980 --> 00:31:15,980
but still pretty good.
So I think given you know what
588
00:31:15,980 --> 00:31:18,260
they've gone through this season
with in terms of just you know,
589
00:31:18,540 --> 00:31:21,420
the safety rotations and some
guys playing out of position,
590
00:31:22,060 --> 00:31:23,980
I'm sure it's affected them to
some degree because obviously
591
00:31:23,980 --> 00:31:25,620
when you have younger players in
there, you don't.
592
00:31:26,230 --> 00:31:28,350
It's it's hard to, you know,
trust that they're all playing
593
00:31:28,350 --> 00:31:30,430
their assignments that can that
can hamper your effectiveness
594
00:31:30,430 --> 00:31:32,110
sometimes.
But I think I'll tell you, all
595
00:31:32,110 --> 00:31:34,350
things considered, they've done
very well, so I'll give them the
596
00:31:34,350 --> 00:31:37,190
B.
Yeah, this is my highest graded
597
00:31:37,190 --> 00:31:41,710
group on the defense and A
minus, it's the 90 to 91 just
598
00:31:41,710 --> 00:31:43,950
because it's kind of what,
Brian, what you said there about
599
00:31:43,950 --> 00:31:47,390
the young guys have looked
solid, they've been and it's
600
00:31:47,390 --> 00:31:50,230
primarily because they played
them at the right amount, right,
601
00:31:50,310 --> 00:31:52,430
the right amount of snaps, the
right.
602
00:31:52,770 --> 00:31:55,530
Times the right sort of
coverages, they haven't been
603
00:31:55,530 --> 00:31:58,930
thrown into anything big.
And to me, the other four guys
604
00:31:58,930 --> 00:32:00,850
are as advertised.
You mentioned Canteen.
605
00:32:01,250 --> 00:32:02,770
When Canteen was brought in, it
was nickel.
606
00:32:02,770 --> 00:32:05,010
He's coming here to play nickel.
He can help us with the other
607
00:32:05,010 --> 00:32:06,930
spots in the rotation, but he's
coming here to play nickel.
608
00:32:07,250 --> 00:32:10,090
And so when you talk about his
run defense grade, it makes
609
00:32:10,090 --> 00:32:14,650
sense.
And he's definitely making, he's
610
00:32:14,650 --> 00:32:18,730
definitely making, he's making
himself probably some money.
611
00:32:20,180 --> 00:32:22,460
You know at the next level with
how he's playing that position
612
00:32:22,660 --> 00:32:25,700
and then showing the flexibility
to play on the outside.
613
00:32:26,100 --> 00:32:29,260
So I'm going to throw this up
real quick just because
614
00:32:29,260 --> 00:32:31,220
Andretta, you're back.
We missed you last week.
615
00:32:31,540 --> 00:32:34,620
Tally is currently with his
daughter Y'all, doing a little
616
00:32:34,620 --> 00:32:37,180
collegiate tour, so he could not
make it tonight.
617
00:32:37,180 --> 00:32:40,900
Sort of a something that came up
last minute, but again we get
618
00:32:40,900 --> 00:32:41,660
it.
Yeah.
619
00:32:42,300 --> 00:32:44,660
Before we move on Curtis, let me
let me make another note here.
620
00:32:44,940 --> 00:32:47,580
Imagine how good some of these
grades could be if you didn't
621
00:32:47,580 --> 00:32:53,010
have campaign and delaying
playing, rotating at safety for
622
00:32:53,010 --> 00:32:56,130
for part of these these large
stretches of time, those two to
623
00:32:56,130 --> 00:32:57,770
three games that we were talking
about earlier.
624
00:32:57,770 --> 00:33:01,210
So you know, those grades could
potentially be higher for those,
625
00:33:01,370 --> 00:33:03,370
for those players that they
weren't having to take on those
626
00:33:03,370 --> 00:33:07,090
type of roles, you know, out of
necessity because of injuries
627
00:33:07,090 --> 00:33:08,450
and targeting and everything
else.
628
00:33:09,170 --> 00:33:11,970
Yeah, it's very true.
It's it's a lot took it out
629
00:33:11,970 --> 00:33:14,250
again.
That back half has played well.
630
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,240
Even with everything that this
has had to do, it's also a
631
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,320
testament.
Give a testament, a shout out to
632
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:23,320
Coach Jones and Coach Prelu for
having to wrap those up.
633
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,280
There'll be some people disagree
with you there, Jim.
634
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,120
That's why I send a couple
buddies, watch the game, listen
635
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,840
to us.
Hey, man, hey, man, we're we're
636
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,400
we're still here.
You know, I'm still I got I got
637
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:40,920
the game all right above me.
So I I I need Tua and Waddle to
638
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,160
get some action going here
because I need some points in my
639
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,860
fantasy leagues.
Well, I'm losing one league and
640
00:33:49,220 --> 00:33:52,300
yeah, we're not going to do it.
Let me ask this and if y'all are
641
00:33:52,300 --> 00:33:54,460
listening out there, we got, we
got a bunch of people watching
642
00:33:54,460 --> 00:33:57,020
tonight.
All right, what's the one group
643
00:33:57,020 --> 00:34:00,420
between now?
And the week after Thanksgiving,
644
00:34:00,420 --> 00:34:03,020
Y'all are saying that group's
going to definitely improve.
645
00:34:03,180 --> 00:34:04,900
And 1:00 you want to Well, never
mind.
646
00:34:05,140 --> 00:34:07,420
I think the one we all want to
improve is the offensive line.
647
00:34:07,420 --> 00:34:11,060
Could improve is, is can I put
that motion on the table?
648
00:34:11,060 --> 00:34:12,580
Everybody wants the offensive
line today.
649
00:34:12,580 --> 00:34:15,260
Everyone wants to see the onset
line get better, yeah?
650
00:34:15,260 --> 00:34:17,060
Motion pass.
But what's the group you think
651
00:34:17,060 --> 00:34:19,780
will improve SHOT in between now
and the end of the season, based
652
00:34:19,780 --> 00:34:23,699
in your eyes?
In my eyes I would say.
653
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:27,639
I would say probably
linebackers.
654
00:34:27,639 --> 00:34:29,920
I mean I thought they were good
against Wake Forest.
655
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,560
I just, I I trust prize
instincts.
656
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,000
I trust Mars instincts given the
the specialty they have with
657
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,840
those groups.
And I would say I do think that
658
00:34:40,159 --> 00:34:43,280
it's more explainable given the
youth in that room why they've
659
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,639
struggled so much.
I think if given the way the
660
00:34:46,639 --> 00:34:49,960
defensive line is played, OK in
the run game, the corners have
661
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,860
been good.
The safety is not.
662
00:34:51,860 --> 00:34:53,500
They're healthy.
We think we'll be good.
663
00:34:53,699 --> 00:34:56,139
I think the linebacker, the
linebacker crew is that one
664
00:34:56,139 --> 00:34:59,220
missing component.
So if they if they get their act
665
00:34:59,220 --> 00:35:01,300
together, I think the defense
can really take a big step
666
00:35:01,300 --> 00:35:02,980
forward.
Marlon, about you.
667
00:35:04,300 --> 00:35:07,100
Yeah.
I mean, if we're looking at the
668
00:35:07,100 --> 00:35:09,620
group, I'd like to see and prove
the most.
669
00:35:10,460 --> 00:35:12,300
I'm with Sheldon.
It's got to be the linebacker
670
00:35:12,300 --> 00:35:16,730
group, because if the linebacker
group can improve and we stay
671
00:35:16,730 --> 00:35:20,370
healthy in the second area at
the safety position, I feel like
672
00:35:20,370 --> 00:35:25,010
the running game or the run
defense can be serviceable good
673
00:35:25,010 --> 00:35:28,450
enough not allow those big, huge
explosive plays because outside
674
00:35:28,450 --> 00:35:32,210
of the explosive plays, we've
held up fairly well against the
675
00:35:32,210 --> 00:35:33,530
run.
It's really just been those
676
00:35:33,530 --> 00:35:39,010
really big Gashers that have you
know really changed the tide in
677
00:35:39,010 --> 00:35:42,160
a lot of games, in the running
game and kind of really put put
678
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,560
those lopsided numbers in the
stat sheets there.
679
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,160
If we can approve that
linebacker position, you know,
680
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:52,200
one full grade, get it up to
like you know I had AC minus,
681
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,880
let's let's get that thing up to
AAB minus.
682
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:56,480
I think we could be on to
something there.
683
00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:01,040
So if they found a a consistent
rotation and these guys continue
684
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,280
to take steps forward in their
play, I think that would be big.
685
00:36:03,830 --> 00:36:06,870
All right, I'm, I'm going to go
different than both y'all
686
00:36:06,870 --> 00:36:08,150
completely.
And I think it's the
687
00:36:08,150 --> 00:36:10,070
quarterback.
Because I think if we continue
688
00:36:10,070 --> 00:36:14,070
to see the maturation of Kyron
drones between these last five
689
00:36:14,070 --> 00:36:17,470
games and the end of the season,
it it it, it could be something
690
00:36:17,470 --> 00:36:20,070
special because of the steps
he's taken between the end of
691
00:36:20,070 --> 00:36:24,310
that Purdue game and what he did
against Wake Forest, how quick
692
00:36:24,310 --> 00:36:27,650
it was.
How quick it was, how quick he
693
00:36:27,650 --> 00:36:30,770
has moved, especially the 350
last week.
694
00:36:31,530 --> 00:36:33,650
That's who I think could take a
step because you're seeing it
695
00:36:33,650 --> 00:36:35,930
quicker and people can say,
well, they're getting more tape
696
00:36:35,930 --> 00:36:37,850
on him.
They had a lot of tape on him
697
00:36:37,850 --> 00:36:41,290
going to those last three games.
Like like you had the Marshall
698
00:36:41,290 --> 00:36:42,530
tape and you had the Rutgers
tape.
699
00:36:42,530 --> 00:36:45,570
Usually it's just a couple.
I like that one though.
700
00:36:46,170 --> 00:36:49,010
I like that one.
Yeah, the tight end room.
701
00:36:49,450 --> 00:36:50,890
Good.
Good call out there, Derek.
702
00:36:51,780 --> 00:36:53,700
So definitely feed those into
us.
703
00:36:54,380 --> 00:36:59,380
We want to see what you guys
think about that and we are now
704
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Now back to the episode.
All righty.
738
00:38:30,650 --> 00:38:34,690
So let's hit it up here and
let's talk about know the Enemy
739
00:38:34,690 --> 00:38:37,290
and let's talk about the
Syracuse Orangemen.
740
00:38:37,930 --> 00:38:41,210
Shelton, you were mentioning
some stuff, and since before we
741
00:38:41,210 --> 00:38:45,810
get into specific sides, Sheldon
had some stuff just on Syracuse
742
00:38:45,810 --> 00:38:49,890
in general that he wanted to hit
up before we get into the deep
743
00:38:49,890 --> 00:38:51,250
dive.
So go ahead, Sheldon.
744
00:38:52,590 --> 00:38:55,310
Yeah, it's been a pretty weird
year for them because they
745
00:38:55,310 --> 00:38:57,630
started out really hot in the
non conference play, you know,
746
00:38:57,630 --> 00:38:59,070
being up on some of their
competition.
747
00:38:59,070 --> 00:39:00,350
But the results look pretty
good.
748
00:39:00,950 --> 00:39:03,270
Since they've started conference
play though, they have just
749
00:39:03,270 --> 00:39:05,270
absolutely fun off the Cliff.
I mean it's kind of hard to
750
00:39:05,270 --> 00:39:09,030
really wrap your head around.
I I saw a set on Twitter from
751
00:39:09,030 --> 00:39:11,830
Bill Connolly, so he does the
biggest.
752
00:39:11,830 --> 00:39:14,670
So he looks at the biggest
overachievers and the biggest
753
00:39:14,670 --> 00:39:18,510
under achievers based on, you
know, performance relative to
754
00:39:18,550 --> 00:39:21,970
expected points.
And he waits recent games more
755
00:39:22,010 --> 00:39:23,810
so it kind of looks at what
you're doing recently.
756
00:39:24,170 --> 00:39:26,610
And he had Syracuse as the
second biggest underachiever in
757
00:39:26,610 --> 00:39:30,330
the country.
So they they have just, you
758
00:39:30,330 --> 00:39:33,770
know, kind of fallen apart these
past, you know, 3-4 games.
759
00:39:33,770 --> 00:39:36,810
And it's been kind of apropos of
of Babers's career there.
760
00:39:36,810 --> 00:39:38,450
He's just been really up and
down as a coach.
761
00:39:38,450 --> 00:39:42,010
He had that one great season in
2018 with ten wins and then two
762
00:39:42,010 --> 00:39:44,690
years later he goes one in 10.
And now they've been kind of,
763
00:39:44,730 --> 00:39:47,330
you know, bats around 500.
So I know that you know,
764
00:39:47,330 --> 00:39:48,930
Syracuse is a really hard place
to win.
765
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:54,000
But I I I think this might be a
pretty critical stretch for them
766
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,160
coming up because if you if you
if you tank this season with you
767
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,680
know Garrett Schrader as your
quarterback you know there might
768
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,920
be some some fans calling her
head.
769
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,680
So I this this is a big stretch
coming up for Syracuse.
770
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,560
So I think they're going to come
to this game pretty motivated.
771
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:12,920
You good, Curtis?
Yeah, I'm good.
772
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,400
Just hearing some noises out
here, making sure everything's
773
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,180
OK.
Yeah and you know what I was
774
00:40:18,180 --> 00:40:21,140
listening to a the locked on
sports Syracuse.
775
00:40:21,140 --> 00:40:23,540
They have one of those and that
guy was mentioning something
776
00:40:23,540 --> 00:40:24,860
similar.
Sheldon, similar to what you
777
00:40:24,860 --> 00:40:27,500
talked about about how he's only
had one good season.
778
00:40:28,540 --> 00:40:32,220
Is this it is this 5 game
stretch starting with the Hokies
779
00:40:32,220 --> 00:40:36,220
on Thursday night.
If if he doesn't effectively
780
00:40:36,220 --> 00:40:40,980
have a good turn around between
now and the end of the this
781
00:40:40,980 --> 00:40:46,250
season, could they?
Let him go, because there's only
782
00:40:46,330 --> 00:40:50,250
one season after this one less I
believe, So it's very
783
00:40:50,250 --> 00:40:56,570
interesting to see how it goes.
But now let's do flip, because
784
00:40:56,570 --> 00:40:58,650
like you said, the more recent
results.
785
00:40:58,650 --> 00:41:01,170
Let's flip to the offense and
talk about the most more recent
786
00:41:01,170 --> 00:41:05,370
results, because overall, this
team is averaging 28 points a
787
00:41:05,370 --> 00:41:08,330
game.
It's a solid number in the last
788
00:41:08,330 --> 00:41:10,530
three games.
The one probably why you were so
789
00:41:10,610 --> 00:41:15,090
focused on that, Connolly.
Article They're averaging eight
790
00:41:15,090 --> 00:41:18,050
points in their last three
games, which are three losses to
791
00:41:18,050 --> 00:41:20,450
Clemson, to Carolina and the
Florida State.
792
00:41:21,730 --> 00:41:25,050
You know they're middle of the
road team when it comes to yards
793
00:41:25,570 --> 00:41:28,050
and when you're middle of the
row when it comes to yards and
794
00:41:28,050 --> 00:41:30,890
you look at who they played, and
I'm not trying to disparage, we
795
00:41:30,890 --> 00:41:32,730
played Purdue as well and lost
to them.
796
00:41:33,010 --> 00:41:35,930
They played Colgate, Western
Michigan, Purdue and Army.
797
00:41:37,130 --> 00:41:39,690
It's not a murderer's road to
start O and four.
798
00:41:41,050 --> 00:41:44,200
So now the question is.
Let's take a look at his
799
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,560
offense.
And Brian is a guy that we
800
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,920
definitely, as Hokie fans are
familiar with and that's Jason
801
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,480
Beck.
He was the QB coach down at
802
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:57,360
Virginia from 2016 to 2021.
And what are we looking at with
803
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,800
his offense and what can they
do?
804
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,560
Yeah, I mean, you're looking at
the Smash Mouth spread, heavy
805
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,040
zone read, ton of quarterback
runs.
806
00:42:07,870 --> 00:42:10,830
They have most of their success
in the passing game, off of play
807
00:42:10,830 --> 00:42:14,350
action, off Sprint outs, off
things where they're getting the
808
00:42:14,350 --> 00:42:17,510
quarterback out of the pocket or
using some run action to kind of
809
00:42:17,870 --> 00:42:22,030
confuse the linebackers and and
open up some pass lanes for the
810
00:42:22,030 --> 00:42:24,510
quarterback.
But you're going to see a heavy
811
00:42:24,510 --> 00:42:29,150
dose of run, particularly with
the quarterback expect you know,
812
00:42:29,150 --> 00:42:33,630
upwards of 20 carries or more
for for their quarterback in
813
00:42:33,630 --> 00:42:36,070
this offense.
We've seen it a lot with UVA.
814
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,160
We're going to see it again now
with with Syracuse.
815
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,840
Curtis, we don't have you.
Because I hit the mute button
816
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,680
and forgot to welcome to me on
Zoom meeting sometimes, Let's
817
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:54,240
talk about Garrett Shader 64230.
We know all too much about him.
818
00:42:54,240 --> 00:42:57,160
Back in 2021, he led the
comeback against the Hokies that
819
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,600
essentially, in my opinion, that
was a game that sealed Justin
820
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,240
Fuente's fate.
Yes?
821
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:03,760
Yes.
I was there too.
822
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:04,680
I was there too.
It sucked.
823
00:43:07,190 --> 00:43:12,870
But you know, so far this
season, you know, 62% passing,
824
00:43:13,470 --> 00:43:17,670
you know, 8 touchdowns, 5 picks,
but he has ran a ton.
825
00:43:17,670 --> 00:43:20,270
He is there.
Get it up here.
826
00:43:21,950 --> 00:43:24,470
Where did it go?
You ever have a number up?
827
00:43:24,470 --> 00:43:26,910
And then it just goes away.
There we go.
828
00:43:27,660 --> 00:43:31,500
He has over 350 yards averaging
just over 4 1/2.
829
00:43:32,020 --> 00:43:34,420
Just a little background on him.
He was a pretty highly rated
830
00:43:34,420 --> 00:43:36,500
guy.
Went down to Mississippi State
831
00:43:36,500 --> 00:43:41,100
to begin with in 2019.
Was a top 250 player, top 10,
832
00:43:41,180 --> 00:43:43,980
dual break, quarterback high
four or should mean low four
833
00:43:43,980 --> 00:43:46,580
start in 91.
Had offers from a lot of
834
00:43:46,580 --> 00:43:48,100
different places all over the
country.
835
00:43:48,380 --> 00:43:52,580
And Brian, this is the this is
what, Second you watched a lot
836
00:43:52,580 --> 00:43:54,540
of film on Garrett straighter in
the last few years.
837
00:43:55,020 --> 00:43:56,020
Inadvertently.
Yeah.
838
00:43:56,380 --> 00:43:59,110
It just seems like any any time
out.
839
00:43:59,110 --> 00:44:02,270
Like half the time if I'm
watching tape on other teams,
840
00:44:02,270 --> 00:44:04,070
it's like, all right, the last
game was Syracuse.
841
00:44:04,070 --> 00:44:05,630
All right, the last game was
what the fuck?
842
00:44:05,630 --> 00:44:07,310
All right.
So I get to see Garrett Schrader
843
00:44:07,310 --> 00:44:11,030
again.
I'd say overall he's an average
844
00:44:11,030 --> 00:44:13,030
thrower.
The football he's he's he's not
845
00:44:13,030 --> 00:44:16,470
going to wow you.
But he's also doesn't really
846
00:44:16,470 --> 00:44:20,350
have a ton of weaknesses either.
Not not the most accurate
847
00:44:20,350 --> 00:44:23,350
thrower, but he can get the ball
down, feel and and hurt you that
848
00:44:23,350 --> 00:44:26,930
way.
Throws best in the short
849
00:44:26,930 --> 00:44:31,130
intermediate game when you roll
the pocket, get him moving, get
850
00:44:31,130 --> 00:44:35,010
him where he can kind of throw
in in those open lanes to one
851
00:44:35,010 --> 00:44:37,370
side, that kind of one or two
read type.
852
00:44:37,370 --> 00:44:40,970
Look, he's patient when he runs
the football.
853
00:44:40,970 --> 00:44:42,450
I think that's the big thing
about him.
854
00:44:42,450 --> 00:44:45,650
Why he's able to sometimes break
those big plays is because he is
855
00:44:45,650 --> 00:44:47,170
patient when he breaks the
pocket.
856
00:44:47,170 --> 00:44:50,090
Even though it's a design
runner, even though he knows
857
00:44:50,090 --> 00:44:52,610
he's going to scramble right
away, he still lets the blocks
858
00:44:52,610 --> 00:44:56,210
kind of happen so he can kind of
get the most out of those those
859
00:44:56,210 --> 00:44:58,850
rushes.
And he has really good
860
00:44:58,850 --> 00:45:00,770
acceleration.
So he's got that ability to kind
861
00:45:00,770 --> 00:45:03,970
of bust a big play when he does
get to that second and third
862
00:45:03,970 --> 00:45:07,490
level, the defense.
All right, Sheldon, you had a
863
00:45:07,490 --> 00:45:11,450
couple of additional points on
him and the one thing I asked
864
00:45:11,450 --> 00:45:15,130
you to look up was how he
performs in their wins and how
865
00:45:15,130 --> 00:45:17,050
he performed in their losses so
far this year.
866
00:45:18,530 --> 00:45:20,290
Yeah, it's pretty stark
contrast.
867
00:45:20,290 --> 00:45:25,770
So PFF created about 52 in their
losses and it's around 80 in
868
00:45:25,770 --> 00:45:28,530
their wins.
So a few interesting notes on
869
00:45:28,530 --> 00:45:32,690
Schrader overall.
Pretty much middle of the road
870
00:45:32,690 --> 00:45:34,090
quarterback like Brian was
saying.
871
00:45:34,930 --> 00:45:37,570
Not a ton of stats that, you
know, stand out too much.
872
00:45:38,290 --> 00:45:41,490
Syracuse tends to throw pretty
deep, so average step The target
873
00:45:41,490 --> 00:45:43,650
ranks 26th among Power 5
quarterbacks.
874
00:45:44,070 --> 00:45:46,710
On the flip side though, he does
make a lot of turnover replays,
875
00:45:46,710 --> 00:45:49,110
so that's kind of, you know, the
side effect there.
876
00:45:49,550 --> 00:45:53,470
He has been sacked a lot and his
passer rating is 48, so kind of
877
00:45:53,470 --> 00:45:56,830
right next to Kyron drones.
Lots of deep throws in this
878
00:45:56,830 --> 00:45:59,230
offense, Not particularly
efficient throwing behind the
879
00:45:59,230 --> 00:46:01,270
line of the scrimmage, although
they don't do it a ton.
880
00:46:02,070 --> 00:46:04,190
The biggest thing I got out of
this, and this is what Brian
881
00:46:04,190 --> 00:46:07,150
alluded to, play action.
Syracuse is a completely
882
00:46:07,150 --> 00:46:08,550
different team with the run play
action.
883
00:46:08,790 --> 00:46:12,270
So when running play action they
complete about 80% of the
884
00:46:12,270 --> 00:46:14,260
passes.
When they're not running play
885
00:46:14,260 --> 00:46:16,180
action, they completed about
55%.
886
00:46:16,460 --> 00:46:19,260
So that plus 25 point
differential is the second
887
00:46:19,260 --> 00:46:22,020
biggest in the Power Five.
So that's one thing they got to
888
00:46:22,020 --> 00:46:25,740
be watching out for is the the
the PA throws.
889
00:46:26,380 --> 00:46:31,020
I would say you know overall he
does get pressured a lot and
890
00:46:31,020 --> 00:46:34,540
according to some of the PFL
numbers he has a he shares a
891
00:46:34,540 --> 00:46:37,460
high dream responsibility for
those pressures.
892
00:46:37,460 --> 00:46:39,300
So some of it's on the opposite
line.
893
00:46:39,790 --> 00:46:41,150
Some of it's on him, kind of a
bit of both.
894
00:46:41,350 --> 00:46:43,470
But you know he he, he scrambles
a lot.
895
00:46:43,470 --> 00:46:46,830
As I'll I'll cite a step in in
the coming second, so don't have
896
00:46:46,830 --> 00:46:49,150
to be aware of the run threat
with Schrader.
897
00:46:50,430 --> 00:46:52,390
Yeah, absolutely.
That is one thing.
898
00:46:52,390 --> 00:46:54,070
You do have to watch out for
him.
899
00:46:54,070 --> 00:46:57,190
We've seen it already one time
in the last few years.
900
00:46:57,190 --> 00:46:59,830
I don't want to flip next to
probably.
901
00:46:59,830 --> 00:47:03,310
In my opinion, just looking stat
wise, definitely their best run
902
00:47:03,310 --> 00:47:08,630
of the ball unless Lequint
Allen, 195 pounds, 6 foot.
903
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:14,720
From Millville NJ and Millville
High School and you know solid
904
00:47:14,720 --> 00:47:18,080
prospect coming out 85.
Had your pit offer, Rutgers
905
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,520
offers.
Had a UVA offer Well the top 25
906
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:22,640
player in the state of New
Jersey.
907
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:28,080
So a solid solid-state.
Solid ranking there and so far
908
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:32,720
this year and he is a red shirt.
Excuse me, a true sophomore
909
00:47:32,720 --> 00:47:37,560
because he did play last year
just under 5A game.
910
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,080
With seven touchdowns running
the ball.
911
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:42,920
Brian what else did the tape
say?
912
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,720
Yeah, I've been looking at at
him run the ball, he's he's
913
00:47:46,720 --> 00:47:48,680
pretty solid between the
tackles, but he's really more
914
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:52,120
dangerous when he can get on the
edge, use his speed to kind of
915
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:56,240
get some some extra yards there.
He also really likes to work
916
00:47:56,240 --> 00:47:59,160
those cutback lanes on those
read options.
917
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,480
You'll you'll see him bend it
back and that's when he can can
918
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,560
break off some of those bigger
runs as well.
919
00:48:05,430 --> 00:48:07,870
They will get him involved in
the passing game, you know
920
00:48:07,870 --> 00:48:09,510
mostly on swings and check
downs.
921
00:48:09,510 --> 00:48:11,470
They're not running a ton of
behind the line of scrimmage
922
00:48:11,470 --> 00:48:14,390
type stuff.
But he's she's he's proficient
923
00:48:14,390 --> 00:48:16,950
in that as well.
Catches good with his hands and
924
00:48:16,950 --> 00:48:21,790
can make people miss in space.
Shelton, what additional info
925
00:48:21,790 --> 00:48:26,150
you have on him for the night?
Right around 5 yards per carry.
926
00:48:26,670 --> 00:48:28,510
His explosive plays are pretty
solid.
927
00:48:28,510 --> 00:48:31,390
He's got 7 design carries, so 15
or more yards.
928
00:48:32,060 --> 00:48:35,060
Like Brian was saying, very
heavily targeted in the passing
929
00:48:35,060 --> 00:48:36,540
game.
One of the most heavily targeted
930
00:48:36,540 --> 00:48:40,220
running backs in all Power Five,
with 25 passing targets.
931
00:48:41,540 --> 00:48:47,660
Yep, 25 passing targets, 23
receptions in, 150 in 157 yards.
932
00:48:47,660 --> 00:48:50,700
So you know, it's good to see
Brian, as you broke down that
933
00:48:50,700 --> 00:48:56,420
tape there that it's not
necessarily route trees, it's
934
00:48:56,420 --> 00:48:59,190
checkdowns.
But that also it makes our
935
00:48:59,190 --> 00:49:01,790
linebacker room and our safeties
have to pay attention to him on
936
00:49:01,790 --> 00:49:03,870
those outsides when he goes out
for routes, even though they're
937
00:49:03,870 --> 00:49:07,590
not going to be complex as part
of the offense, you still have
938
00:49:07,590 --> 00:49:13,190
to respect him because a 92%,
you know catch percentage on 25
939
00:49:13,190 --> 00:49:15,670
targets, that's pretty damn good
for a running back in my.
940
00:49:15,990 --> 00:49:17,910
And occasionally those are you
know ones where it looks like
941
00:49:17,910 --> 00:49:19,830
he's staying in the block and
he's kind of leaking out.
942
00:49:19,830 --> 00:49:22,350
And yeah, that's one where you
look like you're about to get
943
00:49:22,350 --> 00:49:24,030
home, you look like you're about
to get a stop and all of a
944
00:49:24,030 --> 00:49:26,560
sudden he dumps it down to the
running back and you get give up
945
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,160
an 8 yard gain on, you know, 3rd
and 6th.
946
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:32,000
So that's the ones you got to be
careful of.
947
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:36,360
All righty, let's flip.
And who the Let's flip and talk
948
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,760
to who the ball may be thrown to
this week.
949
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,760
And that's going to be Umari
Hatch.
950
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:46,040
Now we're mentioning Hatch, but
I want to mention another name
951
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:49,120
real quick, and that is Aranda
Gatson.
952
00:49:50,410 --> 00:49:54,170
Rondo Gatson was going to be
probably their big playmaker
953
00:49:54,170 --> 00:50:00,250
this year.
He's like a six, five, £220, you
954
00:50:00,250 --> 00:50:04,050
know, a big player.
They lost him very early in the
955
00:50:04,050 --> 00:50:08,410
season, so know that they don't
probably have their best weapon
956
00:50:08,410 --> 00:50:10,290
out there and that's why we're
looking at Hatch.
957
00:50:10,770 --> 00:50:13,170
Of course, there's always got to
be a Virginia kid on these
958
00:50:13,170 --> 00:50:15,990
teams, right?
Amari Hatch, Freedom High School
959
00:50:15,990 --> 00:50:18,390
in Woodbridge.
He was a top 20 fair in the
960
00:50:18,390 --> 00:50:21,030
state of Virginia back in the
class of 2021.
961
00:50:21,030 --> 00:50:25,310
He was the 20th ranked player
and you know so far having a
962
00:50:25,310 --> 00:50:29,550
good season, 346 yards.
I don't have the reception
963
00:50:29,550 --> 00:50:31,950
numbers in front of me.
He is their leading guy.
964
00:50:32,310 --> 00:50:34,270
And Brian, what are you seeing
on the tape?
965
00:50:34,270 --> 00:50:39,950
What does he do for them?
Yeah, you know what he's doing
966
00:50:39,950 --> 00:50:41,790
most.
It usually lines up to the right
967
00:50:41,790 --> 00:50:44,660
hand side of the the the
formation, but he's their
968
00:50:44,660 --> 00:50:46,980
biggest deep threat that they
use on the on the team.
969
00:50:47,340 --> 00:50:50,140
He's targeted a lot down the
field.
970
00:50:50,740 --> 00:50:53,180
He's the guy that they want to
get involved when Schrader is
971
00:50:53,180 --> 00:50:55,940
throwing the ball deep down the
field for for this offense
972
00:50:56,460 --> 00:51:00,060
targeted mostly on goes fades,
they'll use him up the seam
973
00:51:00,060 --> 00:51:03,260
occasionally, but they will also
use use him on some crossers and
974
00:51:03,260 --> 00:51:05,940
digs as well to get that kind of
intermediate routes in there as
975
00:51:05,940 --> 00:51:08,540
well.
So I mean he's really their guy
976
00:51:08,540 --> 00:51:12,030
that's going to get that, those
big yards down the field.
977
00:51:12,030 --> 00:51:14,910
So he's the one that we got to
make sure is not a game breaker
978
00:51:15,150 --> 00:51:17,510
on Thursday all.
Right.
979
00:51:17,510 --> 00:51:20,710
Sean, you said you did have one
little note on Hatcher Mari,
980
00:51:20,710 --> 00:51:23,550
Hatcher Nadu, Mari Hatch.
My apologies there.
981
00:51:24,470 --> 00:51:27,950
Yeah.
Only note is that he is targeted
982
00:51:27,950 --> 00:51:31,470
on some a whole lot of depots,
so 13th and the power of five
983
00:51:31,470 --> 00:51:36,270
and adjusted or excuse me
average depth of target about 17
984
00:51:36,270 --> 00:51:40,300
yards per catch so.
You know he's he's he's going to
985
00:51:40,300 --> 00:51:42,500
be in a lot of deep balls.
Also you mentioned he's from
986
00:51:42,500 --> 00:51:44,820
Virginia.
It seems to me like there's been
987
00:51:44,820 --> 00:51:48,060
a lot of under the radar guys
from this state that have gone
988
00:51:48,060 --> 00:51:50,380
on to play for other you know,
low level power programs
989
00:51:50,380 --> 00:51:53,980
especially in the Northeast.
I know Rutgers had safety or
990
00:51:53,980 --> 00:51:56,740
running back from Virginia that
we played them a few weeks ago.
991
00:51:56,740 --> 00:52:00,700
I can't remember the name but
it's a it's a state that I think
992
00:52:00,700 --> 00:52:04,180
has is good at producing
underrated talent but the high
993
00:52:04,180 --> 00:52:06,220
rated talent leaves a little bit
to be desired.
994
00:52:06,220 --> 00:52:07,660
But that's a conversation for
another day.
995
00:52:08,890 --> 00:52:10,690
Yeah, we talked about a few
players from Pitt.
996
00:52:10,770 --> 00:52:13,490
I think we had two or three from
Wake last week.
997
00:52:13,850 --> 00:52:15,370
Like, no, it was like 5 for
Wake.
998
00:52:15,570 --> 00:52:18,290
It was not like two or three.
It was literally like but but
999
00:52:18,290 --> 00:52:21,650
they did get Devin Claiborne
who's a pretty highly rated guy,
1000
00:52:22,450 --> 00:52:24,970
he is on that team and he
obviously ran the kickback.
1001
00:52:24,970 --> 00:52:29,610
So, but again it's that is
another story that's February.
1002
00:52:29,610 --> 00:52:31,290
We'll write it down.
We'll circle the episode.
1003
00:52:31,290 --> 00:52:34,130
We'll get, we'll talk about kind
of the wrap of recruiting and
1004
00:52:34,130 --> 00:52:37,370
then do some breakdowns on that.
But there's still talent here
1005
00:52:37,450 --> 00:52:41,690
and yeah that's where again I
think that you know I'm I'm try
1006
00:52:41,690 --> 00:52:44,090
to keep it in because we got one
more piece on the offensive line
1007
00:52:44,090 --> 00:52:47,050
is offering somebody like a hat
who goes to freedom.
1008
00:52:47,250 --> 00:52:49,050
Freedom is a good fucking
football school.
1009
00:52:50,170 --> 00:52:53,690
Good football school, yeah.
And and let's talk about, you
1010
00:52:53,690 --> 00:52:58,650
know what what what is Pride
been having to rebuild in the
1011
00:52:58,650 --> 00:53:02,810
last year and a half or so that
wasn't that great under the
1012
00:53:02,810 --> 00:53:06,700
previous regime.
And we're at a time right now
1013
00:53:06,700 --> 00:53:09,700
where guys that were recruited
in that time frame when things
1014
00:53:09,700 --> 00:53:15,220
kind of fell off the map are
becoming solid either rotational
1015
00:53:15,220 --> 00:53:17,380
pieces or starters at these
other universities.
1016
00:53:17,380 --> 00:53:19,660
So that's why you see Pitt with
like two or three starters in
1017
00:53:19,660 --> 00:53:24,100
wake with five starters that are
key players on their team that
1018
00:53:24,100 --> 00:53:30,620
were kind of that mid to high 3
occasionally a low four player
1019
00:53:30,620 --> 00:53:33,740
that is now playing for another
ACC school.
1020
00:53:33,740 --> 00:53:37,890
So yeah we're we're we're still
kind of in the midst of
1021
00:53:37,890 --> 00:53:39,810
experiencing that.
I think we're probably got you
1022
00:53:39,810 --> 00:53:42,690
know one or two more years where
that's going to be a topic of
1023
00:53:42,690 --> 00:53:45,290
conversation throughout ACC
play.
1024
00:53:45,290 --> 00:53:46,770
I'm.
Going to say this before we hit
1025
00:53:46,770 --> 00:53:48,410
the offensive line, I think
that's always going to be a
1026
00:53:48,410 --> 00:53:51,330
conversation because as you
start filling out your rooms,
1027
00:53:51,330 --> 00:53:54,410
you're trying to find fits and
there's guys that may not get an
1028
00:53:54,410 --> 00:53:57,650
offer, they may not recruit as
hard because of this is not
1029
00:53:57,650 --> 00:53:59,490
quite what we need for this
position.
1030
00:53:59,490 --> 00:54:02,210
He's a good player but if he
comes here it's going to be a
1031
00:54:02,210 --> 00:54:05,400
tough hill to climb.
But now let's talk about the
1032
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:07,160
offensive line.
Shelton, while you were
1033
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:09,800
mentioning how bad their
offensive line was, I had to
1034
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:14,320
look it up and I found it.
They are 100th in the country at
1035
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:17,720
sacks allowed, nineteen over the
first seven games.
1036
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:21,120
Now where they do differ between
the other guys down there, they
1037
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,520
are under 100 sack yards per
game.
1038
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:26,720
So real quick, before Brian
breaks down the tape.
1039
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:30,640
Shelton, did you get a chance to
pull up their grades on the
1040
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,190
offensive line?
I did, yes.
1041
00:54:33,190 --> 00:54:35,550
And it's interesting, there
seems to be a discrepancy in
1042
00:54:35,550 --> 00:54:39,750
terms of the sack totals you
mentioned and their overall pass
1043
00:54:39,750 --> 00:54:42,150
blocking PFF grades.
So they're actually graded
1044
00:54:42,150 --> 00:54:44,990
pretty well in pass blocking
17th as a team.
1045
00:54:45,630 --> 00:54:48,630
They just don't really have a
ton of, you know, individual
1046
00:54:48,630 --> 00:54:51,350
standouts on that offensive
line.
1047
00:54:51,710 --> 00:54:54,110
Nobody graded in the Top 40 in
the ACC.
1048
00:54:54,110 --> 00:54:56,910
In terms of offensive lineman,
they're left tackle.
1049
00:54:56,910 --> 00:55:00,590
Enrique Cruz is the worst graded
run blocker in the ACC.
1050
00:55:01,540 --> 00:55:04,980
And their rushing yardage
numbers are OK overall, but
1051
00:55:04,980 --> 00:55:06,580
that's only because of
Schrader's running the building.
1052
00:55:06,580 --> 00:55:11,580
So Schrader's averaging about
6.3 yards per rushing attempt,
1053
00:55:11,980 --> 00:55:14,820
you take out the sacks, and he
also leads ACC in scramble
1054
00:55:14,820 --> 00:55:16,500
yards.
So kind of apropos of what I was
1055
00:55:16,500 --> 00:55:19,060
mentioning earlier, he scrambles
a lot.
1056
00:55:19,060 --> 00:55:21,500
He can get out of the pocket, so
even if the offensive line
1057
00:55:21,500 --> 00:55:24,220
doesn't give a ton of time to
throw, he can make place happen
1058
00:55:24,220 --> 00:55:27,310
with his feet.
So Brian, you watched the tape
1059
00:55:27,430 --> 00:55:30,790
and I know you Sheldon said the
grade doesn't reflect it, but
1060
00:55:30,790 --> 00:55:33,350
the stats numbers reflect it.
What are the tapes?
1061
00:55:33,390 --> 00:55:37,470
Reflect about their past, bro.
It's kind of a mixed bag.
1062
00:55:37,470 --> 00:55:41,430
I mean, they give up some sacks
that they probably shouldn't.
1063
00:55:41,870 --> 00:55:45,630
Occasionally Schrader hangs
around back there too much or
1064
00:55:46,230 --> 00:55:49,150
tries to escape the pocket too
soon and kind of gets himself in
1065
00:55:49,150 --> 00:55:50,790
trouble.
So there's a little bit of that
1066
00:55:50,790 --> 00:55:54,110
in there as well.
I mean, I'd call them probably
1067
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,760
very average in pass pro and
very average run blocking
1068
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:01,960
overall there.
There's not really standouts, as
1069
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:03,920
Shelton said.
Really across the board.
1070
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:10,960
It's just a fairly solid pass
pro and then a run game that
1071
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,400
when they can get going,
especially with Schrader, looks
1072
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,120
probably a little bit better
than than it really is in terms
1073
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:20,240
of the actual blocking.
All righty glad to hear some of
1074
00:56:20,240 --> 00:56:22,840
this stuff is correlating
between the numbers and the the
1075
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:24,680
actual.
Taking a look at the tape
1076
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:30,120
itself, you said the left tackle
is their worst run blocker.
1077
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,480
Who's their best graded?
Just one of those things to be
1078
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,200
paying attention to Thursday
night.
1079
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:38,440
Yeah, give me, I'll, I'll look
up in one quick SEC.
1080
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:41,760
I'll have it for you.
Yeah, because again, while we're
1081
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,680
doing this, because we hear
that, I'm sure Brian, your first
1082
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:47,040
thought is, well, if he sucks
that bad and he.
1083
00:56:47,730 --> 00:56:50,490
They're probably not going to be
running to the left much, so
1084
00:56:50,490 --> 00:56:52,530
probably they're not going to be
looking at outside zone.
1085
00:56:52,530 --> 00:56:55,410
There's probably, maybe an
inside zone to the left side.
1086
00:56:55,410 --> 00:56:57,770
It's probably going to be
elsewhere on the line.
1087
00:56:59,170 --> 00:57:02,370
Yeah, so their best graded run
blocker is Christopher Blake.
1088
00:57:02,450 --> 00:57:04,090
Apologies if I'm mispronouncing
that.
1089
00:57:04,490 --> 00:57:06,850
He is their left guard.
So he's played.
1090
00:57:07,450 --> 00:57:09,330
Yeah, he's played pretty much
the the whole season.
1091
00:57:09,970 --> 00:57:13,010
All right, so there you go.
Probably.
1092
00:57:13,690 --> 00:57:15,970
It'll be interesting to see
where they run the ball Saturday
1093
00:57:15,970 --> 00:57:18,070
night.
All right, let's flip over to
1094
00:57:18,070 --> 00:57:21,510
the defensive side of the ball
and let's talk about this
1095
00:57:21,510 --> 00:57:24,750
defense led by Rocky Long.
If you don't know the name Rocky
1096
00:57:24,750 --> 00:57:27,230
Long, then you probably really
haven't been paying attention to
1097
00:57:27,230 --> 00:57:28,750
college football the last 20
years.
1098
00:57:29,030 --> 00:57:33,070
Rocky Long, successful in New
Mexico back in the late 90s,
1099
00:57:33,070 --> 00:57:37,990
early 2000s, became San Diego
State's defensive coordinator in
1100
00:57:37,990 --> 00:57:41,390
2009 and coached there for right
out of decade, where you had
1101
00:57:41,390 --> 00:57:44,830
some significant success with
San Diego State.
1102
00:57:45,710 --> 00:57:49,030
Brian tell me some other stuff
about Rocky Long and the defense
1103
00:57:49,030 --> 00:57:51,310
he runs.
Yeah, I mean this is one of the
1104
00:57:51,310 --> 00:57:56,190
godfathers of the the 3-3 stack.
So along with his mentor Jolie
1105
00:57:56,190 --> 00:57:59,910
Dunn, think about those Memphis
teams back in the day.
1106
00:58:01,510 --> 00:58:05,590
This is, this is kind of one of
the originators of the 335.
1107
00:58:06,550 --> 00:58:09,990
But I will say looking at their
their, their alignment, they
1108
00:58:09,990 --> 00:58:13,070
will kind of switch up the front
to confuse the offensive line.
1109
00:58:14,020 --> 00:58:18,540
You'll occasionally see them go
with like a 245 look sometimes
1110
00:58:18,540 --> 00:58:21,100
in nickels sometimes just
because just to kind of confuse
1111
00:58:21,100 --> 00:58:25,980
things there and and and show a
different look like most 33
1112
00:58:25,980 --> 00:58:30,340
stacks very stunt blitz heavy.
So you expect that from the D
1113
00:58:30,340 --> 00:58:34,540
it's going to be a handful for
the offensive line to handle
1114
00:58:34,540 --> 00:58:36,860
some of that.
So hopefully that they are ready
1115
00:58:36,860 --> 00:58:39,140
and more prepared than we were
at the beginning of the season
1116
00:58:39,140 --> 00:58:43,070
for these type of fronts.
And yeah, I mean it's going to
1117
00:58:43,070 --> 00:58:45,350
be another one of those where
we've got to make sure that we
1118
00:58:45,350 --> 00:58:48,910
keep Kyron drones off off his
back as well because they again
1119
00:58:48,910 --> 00:58:50,630
will bring some pressure there
in the backfield.
1120
00:58:51,510 --> 00:58:53,870
All right, let's take a look at
a couple of the key players
1121
00:58:53,870 --> 00:58:57,070
there at Syracuse and let's
start with the Rover.
1122
00:58:57,070 --> 00:59:02,230
Justin Baron #8, defensive Back,
6 foot four, £230 from Suffolk
1123
00:59:02,230 --> 00:59:05,470
Academy in Rock Hill,
Connecticut Came out was an
1124
00:59:05,470 --> 00:59:08,670
84247 top 15 player in the state
of Connected.
1125
00:59:08,670 --> 00:59:10,790
A top 100 athlete when he came
out.
1126
00:59:11,630 --> 00:59:14,470
I think he was looked at as a
wide receiver and then moved
1127
00:59:14,550 --> 00:59:18,150
effectively, then inside
linebacker, then eventually
1128
00:59:18,150 --> 00:59:23,470
Rover and so far this year you
know tackle wise leading the
1129
00:59:23,470 --> 00:59:26,950
team 55 tackles, 5 tackles for
loss.
1130
00:59:27,190 --> 00:59:30,110
Where I really found it
interesting was 4 pass
1131
00:59:30,110 --> 00:59:31,830
deflections along with two force
fumbles.
1132
00:59:31,830 --> 00:59:34,190
So obviously that guy's around
the ball a lot.
1133
00:59:34,630 --> 00:59:37,310
Brian what's the tape telling
you about Justin Baron?
1134
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:40,560
Yeah, I mean he's a big asset in
their run support.
1135
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:43,120
He's the guy that's primarily
coming up from the stage
1136
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:47,920
position, making good plays,
good fits and and and and making
1137
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:52,440
a solid tackle in the run game.
Overall, really good with Fitz,
1138
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:56,240
really good in pursuit.
I'd say he's much better in zone
1139
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,200
coverage than he is a man.
He's kind of a little slow
1140
00:59:58,200 --> 00:59:59,960
changing directions in man
coverage.
1141
00:59:59,960 --> 01:00:02,120
So that may be a spot where we
can kind of take advantage.
1142
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:08,140
All righty, Shelton, any sort of
deeper metrics on Justin Baron,
1143
01:00:08,140 --> 01:00:12,180
the Rover for the Orangemen?
Yeah, overall, pretty good in
1144
01:00:12,180 --> 01:00:15,860
coverage, 62 passer rating when
targeted, which is pretty solid.
1145
01:00:16,820 --> 01:00:20,620
He does have a pretty shallow
depth of targets, so only about
1146
01:00:20,820 --> 01:00:24,140
four yards is his depth when
he's targeted in pass coverage.
1147
01:00:24,380 --> 01:00:26,780
Not surprising, because he
mostly plays in the box.
1148
01:00:27,260 --> 01:00:30,460
And as a result of that, he also
has eight run stops, which is a
1149
01:00:30,460 --> 01:00:33,260
stat that PFF tracks.
Basically a loss for the
1150
01:00:33,260 --> 01:00:36,660
offense, which is tied for third
and ACC at his position group.
1151
01:00:37,940 --> 01:00:40,580
Very nice to know.
So like you said, I think when I
1152
01:00:40,580 --> 01:00:42,620
hear that, I hear Brian talking
about mandate.
1153
01:00:42,620 --> 01:00:46,020
He's not going to be going with
guys like Wright or Gosnell up
1154
01:00:46,020 --> 01:00:48,380
the seam or on wheel routes.
He's going to be staying close
1155
01:00:48,380 --> 01:00:52,340
to home, which obviously could
stress potentially other parts
1156
01:00:52,380 --> 01:00:55,630
of that defense.
Now another guy playing down in
1157
01:00:55,630 --> 01:00:59,110
the box is Marlow Wax.
Let's talk a little bit about
1158
01:00:59,110 --> 01:01:03,430
Marlow.
Marlow, 6 foot £230 out of the
1159
01:01:03,430 --> 01:01:06,350
state of Maryland.
Kind of an underrated guy, an 83
1160
01:01:06,350 --> 01:01:09,670
three star when he came out in
the class of 2020.
1161
01:01:09,670 --> 01:01:12,070
Went to Mount Saint Joseph down
in Baltimore.
1162
01:01:12,910 --> 01:01:17,750
Came out initially as a running
back and other than Syracuse and
1163
01:01:17,750 --> 01:01:22,110
Pitt, did not have a lot of D1.
Excuse me, P5 looks.
1164
01:01:22,580 --> 01:01:27,980
Had some interest from Marshall
and and ECU.
1165
01:01:27,980 --> 01:01:31,540
Sorry about that.
But let's talk about this year.
1166
01:01:31,540 --> 01:01:36,020
Second on the lien, second on
the team in tackles at 53.
1167
01:01:36,260 --> 01:01:38,820
Does have a pick and 3/4
fumbles.
1168
01:01:40,100 --> 01:01:43,580
Brian, I say linebacker in A335
stack, we've already talked
1169
01:01:43,580 --> 01:01:45,780
about the Rover, so he's
definitely not playing that
1170
01:01:45,780 --> 01:01:49,220
position, which also some people
consider linebacker in A335
1171
01:01:49,220 --> 01:01:51,020
stack.
Where is he playing?
1172
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,160
Yeah, he's that Mike.
Some also call it a Jack.
1173
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:55,600
Just kind of depends on the
system.
1174
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,440
You know Mike, linebacker, a lot
of responsibilities with that
1175
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:02,760
position, heavy blitz usage from
all angles.
1176
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:04,960
They'll they'll move him around,
they'll shove him around.
1177
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:09,600
So he's coming off the edge.
He's coming up the middle, you
1178
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:13,280
know, A gap, B gap, C gap,
whatever, whatever, whatever gap
1179
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:16,560
the offense has, he's going to
be used in those for on the
1180
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:19,220
blitz game.
He's great in pursuit, really
1181
01:02:19,220 --> 01:02:21,540
good at shooting gaps and
occasionally getting some some
1182
01:02:21,540 --> 01:02:24,900
tackles for loss.
But I'd say the only thing that
1183
01:02:24,900 --> 01:02:27,700
I'd say we could maybe take
advantage of is that he can get
1184
01:02:27,700 --> 01:02:29,740
blocked.
When he's running downhill
1185
01:02:30,140 --> 01:02:33,220
against the run.
He's not very good at shedding,
1186
01:02:33,300 --> 01:02:37,420
shedding blockers and taking on
those bigger, bigger players
1187
01:02:37,420 --> 01:02:41,620
head on.
He he much would rather run at
1188
01:02:41,620 --> 01:02:44,710
an angle pursue.
Shoot a gap, something like
1189
01:02:44,710 --> 01:02:47,750
that, kind of to make that play.
So that might be where we can
1190
01:02:47,750 --> 01:02:51,110
take some advantage.
All right, Shelton, any sort of
1191
01:02:51,110 --> 01:02:55,670
deeper stats with Mr. Wax?
He is the highest grade
1192
01:02:55,670 --> 01:02:58,990
offensive or excuse me, highest
grade linebacker for Syracuse.
1193
01:02:59,590 --> 01:03:02,150
Really good tackler.
You're talking about the stop
1194
01:03:02,150 --> 01:03:04,590
stat.
He's got 32 stops on the season,
1195
01:03:04,870 --> 01:03:07,110
which is second in the entire
ACC.
1196
01:03:07,310 --> 01:03:09,310
So very, a very big run stuffing
guy.
1197
01:03:10,630 --> 01:03:13,900
All righty.
I, I, I find it interesting,
1198
01:03:13,900 --> 01:03:16,100
Brian, once you talk about
easily getting blocked when he
1199
01:03:16,100 --> 01:03:19,460
gets downhill against the run,
that'll be more interesting in
1200
01:03:19,460 --> 01:03:21,940
how they line him up.
Do they continue to move him
1201
01:03:21,940 --> 01:03:24,460
like they have all season?
Because especially if we get
1202
01:03:24,460 --> 01:03:28,420
some of our run game going, we
can engage him, could take out
1203
01:03:28,420 --> 01:03:31,540
one of their best tacklers.
All right, last piece, we're
1204
01:03:31,540 --> 01:03:33,220
going to go.
We're staying up front for the
1205
01:03:33,220 --> 01:03:35,580
last guy as well.
And I want to talk about Kevon
1206
01:03:35,580 --> 01:03:40,060
Darden and Kevon Darden go to
247, you won't find a page on
1207
01:03:40,060 --> 01:03:44,900
him.
He was a walk on who is now a
1208
01:03:44,900 --> 01:03:52,300
defensive tackle there.
He's only 511, about £275 and so
1209
01:03:52,300 --> 01:03:54,900
he's not that big of a guy when
you hear defensive line because
1210
01:03:54,900 --> 01:03:59,460
he does play defensive tackle
and so far this year you know he
1211
01:03:59,460 --> 01:04:04,260
does have 3 sacks, 14 total
tackles with a forced fumble.
1212
01:04:04,620 --> 01:04:07,300
What I don't like hearing is
every single guy at multiple
1213
01:04:07,300 --> 01:04:11,680
levels has a forced fumble.
Not a fan of that, Brian.
1214
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:15,080
Looking at the tape, I know you,
you, you kind of an interesting
1215
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:18,240
guy to to watch from a tape
perspective on all the things
1216
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:23,160
they do with him.
Yeah, you know, as you said,
1217
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:26,440
former walk on.
They play him at that shade
1218
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:27,920
nose.
Sometimes he's head up,
1219
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:29,600
sometimes he's in the shade,
but.
1220
01:04:30,950 --> 01:04:34,430
They'll also kind of line him up
in different spots whenever they
1221
01:04:34,430 --> 01:04:36,390
mix up those fronts.
So he'll be in a three
1222
01:04:36,390 --> 01:04:38,750
technique, he'll be in a four
eye, he'll be in a four
1223
01:04:38,750 --> 01:04:40,310
technique.
He just kind of really depends
1224
01:04:40,310 --> 01:04:43,790
on how they're attacking and how
they're mixing up their fronts.
1225
01:04:43,790 --> 01:04:49,950
But his size is interesting for
a nose, even in a in A33 stack
1226
01:04:49,950 --> 01:04:53,990
nose because he is a very small,
small player.
1227
01:04:53,990 --> 01:05:00,300
He's five 11275.
That's about 30 pounds and at
1228
01:05:00,300 --> 01:05:03,740
least a couple inches shorter
and and and and lighter than you
1229
01:05:03,740 --> 01:05:06,860
normally see a a nose at the
starting end.
1230
01:05:08,980 --> 01:05:11,500
You know that height probably
not as big of an issue as the
1231
01:05:11,500 --> 01:05:14,020
weight but he actually does a
pretty good job of eating
1232
01:05:14,020 --> 01:05:18,140
blockers Despite that size and
he he slants pretty quick.
1233
01:05:18,140 --> 01:05:22,500
So he's he's a guy that you know
for what he lacks in size makes
1234
01:05:22,500 --> 01:05:24,620
up with in quickness.
So you get some occasional
1235
01:05:24,620 --> 01:05:27,420
tackles for loss opportunities
in that regard.
1236
01:05:28,930 --> 01:05:35,730
Sheldon anything on him?
No, I just got one on Anwar
1237
01:05:35,730 --> 01:05:38,570
Sparrow, who's their their one
of their highest graded D
1238
01:05:38,570 --> 01:05:40,010
lineman.
So he was Go ahead.
1239
01:05:40,490 --> 01:05:42,210
Yeah.
So he was third in the ACC
1240
01:05:42,210 --> 01:05:45,250
overall, big on the the run
defense.
1241
01:05:46,970 --> 01:05:48,690
Yeah, let me I can look up the
numbers.
1242
01:05:48,690 --> 01:05:52,970
But basically he's their, he's
their top run stuffing guy.
1243
01:05:52,970 --> 01:05:54,650
Sparrow is on that, on that D
front.
1244
01:05:56,370 --> 01:05:58,770
All righty.
So we got Sparrow as their big
1245
01:05:58,770 --> 01:06:02,210
run stuff for defensive line.
You got Darden as a small
1246
01:06:02,210 --> 01:06:05,050
undersized defensive tackle that
they like to do a lot of things
1247
01:06:05,050 --> 01:06:07,290
with.
So it's going to be interesting
1248
01:06:07,290 --> 01:06:11,490
to see how we handle this.
And I'm going to flip it here
1249
01:06:11,490 --> 01:06:14,170
and we're going to go next to
the Hokie keys.
1250
01:06:16,130 --> 01:06:18,050
And I'm going to start with you,
Brian.
1251
01:06:18,130 --> 01:06:22,250
What do you think is your
biggest key for this game?
1252
01:06:24,300 --> 01:06:26,940
Biggest key for this game to me
is going to be the offense.
1253
01:06:26,940 --> 01:06:28,260
He's to stay ahead of the
sticks.
1254
01:06:28,260 --> 01:06:31,900
I think we, if we can get into
those second and manageable 3rd
1255
01:06:31,900 --> 01:06:36,460
and manageable situations,
control the time of possession
1256
01:06:36,460 --> 01:06:38,340
because that's what they're
going to try to do to us.
1257
01:06:38,340 --> 01:06:42,340
If we can control the time of
possession and make them have to
1258
01:06:43,500 --> 01:06:46,260
get away from what they feel
they do best, which is running
1259
01:06:46,260 --> 01:06:50,900
the football both with Schrader
and with their running backs.
1260
01:06:51,660 --> 01:06:54,420
If we can do that, I think that
puts us in a better, better spot
1261
01:06:54,420 --> 01:06:56,700
long term in that game.
So if we can stay ahead of the
1262
01:06:56,700 --> 01:06:59,460
sticks, that'll be a good, a
good way to control that time,
1263
01:06:59,460 --> 01:07:02,620
possession and and put them in
difficult situations with their
1264
01:07:02,620 --> 01:07:04,780
own offense.
All right, Sean, what about you?
1265
01:07:05,780 --> 01:07:08,220
Yeah, for me it's all about
contain, contain, contain.
1266
01:07:08,220 --> 01:07:10,540
They got to contain the
quarterback, Schrader.
1267
01:07:10,940 --> 01:07:13,980
I think when you look at this
offense overall, not to be
1268
01:07:13,980 --> 01:07:16,500
disparaging of any of their
players, but they're just really
1269
01:07:16,500 --> 01:07:18,900
aren't a ton of individual
individual standouts.
1270
01:07:19,500 --> 01:07:22,100
Outside of Schrader and really
their whole offense is just
1271
01:07:22,100 --> 01:07:24,660
predicated on him getting out in
space and making plays.
1272
01:07:24,660 --> 01:07:28,340
And so if you take away that
scramble game, that run game, I
1273
01:07:28,340 --> 01:07:30,580
mean they just, they don't have
a ton left and they've they've
1274
01:07:30,580 --> 01:07:32,780
struggled a lot on early downs
this season.
1275
01:07:32,780 --> 01:07:35,500
Like you know one of the worst
in the country on 1st and 2nd
1276
01:07:35,500 --> 01:07:37,940
down.
So you put them in, you put them
1277
01:07:37,940 --> 01:07:40,180
in 3rd long, it's not, it's not
going to go particularly well
1278
01:07:40,180 --> 01:07:41,740
for them, but you still got to
make sure that you contain the
1279
01:07:41,740 --> 01:07:44,300
quarterback.
So keeping keeping Schrader in
1280
01:07:44,300 --> 01:07:46,340
check is definitely the biggest
key for winning this ball game.
1281
01:07:47,020 --> 01:07:50,820
Yep I'm I'm with what you said
there and it's the it's the it's
1282
01:07:50,820 --> 01:07:55,140
attack responsibly because what
you just said even more Shelton
1283
01:07:55,860 --> 01:07:59,020
goes back to what my thought was
they're not good on 1st and 2nd
1284
01:07:59,020 --> 01:08:00,340
down.
If you can attack them get them
1285
01:08:00,340 --> 01:08:04,260
behind the sticks where they
can't just run him up the middle
1286
01:08:05,300 --> 01:08:07,340
it's going to put them in dire
situations.
1287
01:08:07,340 --> 01:08:12,260
And again, you're talking about
the 100th, the 100th rated, you
1288
01:08:12,260 --> 01:08:14,660
know, team sacks allowed
regardless what the grades say,
1289
01:08:14,740 --> 01:08:18,069
they give up those sacks and
then you get APR, who's number
1290
01:08:18,069 --> 01:08:20,350
six in the country.
The Hokies, I believe, are in
1291
01:08:20,350 --> 01:08:24,430
the Top 40 in the country in
sacks, in team sacks.
1292
01:08:25,430 --> 01:08:28,510
So there's that one piece
attack, but attack responsibly,
1293
01:08:28,510 --> 01:08:30,670
make sure you don't give him
running lanes.
1294
01:08:31,069 --> 01:08:35,189
So lot of integrity there.
I'm going to do one on offense
1295
01:08:35,189 --> 01:08:37,990
here since tally isn't take what
the defense gives you.
1296
01:08:38,229 --> 01:08:40,790
They're pretty balanced defense.
They do give up more passing
1297
01:08:40,790 --> 01:08:43,109
than they do rushing, but take
what they give you.
1298
01:08:43,310 --> 01:08:47,490
Wake Forest decided to load the
box and kind of drones sliced
1299
01:08:47,490 --> 01:08:50,609
and diced them all night.
So take whatever they give you.
1300
01:08:50,609 --> 01:08:53,290
If they want to try to play more
coverage, run the ball.
1301
01:08:53,689 --> 01:08:55,370
I think we can run against this
team.
1302
01:08:56,010 --> 01:08:59,729
So there that is.
Now before we get into our
1303
01:08:59,729 --> 01:09:02,729
prediction and then a quick note
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1304
01:09:02,729 --> 01:09:07,450
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1314
01:09:41,630 --> 01:09:43,350
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01:09:46,630 --> 01:09:49,189
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1318
01:09:52,149 --> 01:09:54,910
Sheldon was working.
Brian had things going on.
1319
01:09:55,310 --> 01:09:58,310
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01:09:58,310 --> 01:10:01,230
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1322
01:10:05,510 --> 01:10:08,790
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1323
01:10:08,790 --> 01:10:11,510
And I'm going to start off on
behalf of Jonathan Tally.
1324
01:10:12,550 --> 01:10:17,390
Got a text from him here 2717.
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1325
01:10:17,390 --> 01:10:22,710
bandwagon and going 2717 Hokies.
Sheldon, what do you feel on
1326
01:10:22,710 --> 01:10:26,550
this game?
Yeah, I'm going to go Hokies by
1327
01:10:26,550 --> 01:10:31,110
four.
I think this is a game where my
1328
01:10:32,150 --> 01:10:35,630
how do I phrase this is my my
brain says Vt even though
1329
01:10:35,630 --> 01:10:37,590
there's part of my gut that says
it's going to be a let down
1330
01:10:37,590 --> 01:10:40,270
loss.
But I will say, you know, this
1331
01:10:40,270 --> 01:10:42,750
is probably the first game in a
while where I've been, you know,
1332
01:10:42,750 --> 01:10:44,990
genuinely pumped for it because
I think you've got a huge
1333
01:10:44,990 --> 01:10:47,150
opportunity.
You've got Syracuse coming on
1334
01:10:47,150 --> 01:10:49,230
Thursday night.
You win this game, you go to
1335
01:10:49,230 --> 01:10:51,550
three and one in the ACC, four
and four overall.
1336
01:10:51,870 --> 01:10:54,030
You're probably going to be
projected to make a ball game if
1337
01:10:54,030 --> 01:10:57,070
you win this game.
And I think it's going to get
1338
01:10:57,070 --> 01:10:59,710
the fan base entirely dock on
your side if you lose.
1339
01:10:59,870 --> 01:11:02,190
And I kind of like back to like,
Oh well, we're, you know, we
1340
01:11:02,190 --> 01:11:03,510
might go four and eight, five
and seven.
1341
01:11:03,980 --> 01:11:05,620
So I think there's a lot riding
on this game.
1342
01:11:05,620 --> 01:11:07,540
I mean I know it's a, you know,
it might seem like just a
1343
01:11:07,540 --> 01:11:10,420
matchup between 2 mediocre ACC
teams and maybe it is.
1344
01:11:10,700 --> 01:11:14,220
But this is a this is this could
be a huge confidence boosting
1345
01:11:14,220 --> 01:11:17,740
win for Vt.
So regardless this they they got
1346
01:11:17,740 --> 01:11:22,060
to win this game and so I got I
got Hokies by 4 Brian.
1347
01:11:23,220 --> 01:11:25,860
I've got the Hokies winning
2720.
1348
01:11:27,060 --> 01:11:30,900
I think this is going to be the
win that.
1349
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:35,840
If they're not already gets the
fan base fully bought into what
1350
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:41,360
Pride is doing and and what the
the team is doing and the steps
1351
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:44,640
that we're taking going forward
to build this program back up.
1352
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:49,200
I don't think that this is a
monumental win if it happens.
1353
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:53,400
But what it What it proves is
that you can go into a Thursday
1354
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:57,640
night game in prime time in your
home stadium and beat a team
1355
01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:01,190
that.
At least on paper is as good or
1356
01:12:01,190 --> 01:12:02,870
better than you are.
There you go.
1357
01:12:04,070 --> 01:12:08,710
And I think that's an important
hurdle to get over for this
1358
01:12:08,710 --> 01:12:11,790
staff and this team is going out
there and taking care of the
1359
01:12:11,790 --> 01:12:15,390
business consistently in those
type of matchups.
1360
01:12:16,390 --> 01:12:20,110
You know, we've seen Wake
Forest, we've seen Pitt.
1361
01:12:21,310 --> 01:12:26,130
Those teams are.
Probably in the bottom three or
1362
01:12:26,130 --> 01:12:29,290
four of the ACC, Syracuse is
more of a middle of the pack
1363
01:12:29,290 --> 01:12:31,410
team.
If we can show we can get a
1364
01:12:31,410 --> 01:12:34,850
victory against them, I think
that will boost the confidence
1365
01:12:34,850 --> 01:12:36,570
of the team.
Boost the confidence of the fan
1366
01:12:36,570 --> 01:12:39,290
base, Yeah, and I'm with you
all.
1367
01:12:39,290 --> 01:12:47,090
I do think the Hokies win this
game and I'm going to go 3021.
1368
01:12:47,570 --> 01:12:52,110
I think the Hokies win
comfortably and it's and it's
1369
01:12:52,110 --> 01:12:55,270
and it's I like what y'all said,
This is that game that can
1370
01:12:55,350 --> 01:13:00,030
springboard things for the fan
base especially.
1371
01:13:00,030 --> 01:13:03,190
It's like we saw the pit game.
It's like, oh, OK, we hadn't
1372
01:13:03,190 --> 01:13:06,710
beat pit like that in years.
We hadn't beat pit about
1373
01:13:06,790 --> 01:13:10,190
multiple scores in years.
You go to the FSU game, you show
1374
01:13:10,190 --> 01:13:15,030
three good quarters, a football
against one of the best teams in
1375
01:13:15,030 --> 01:13:18,710
the country, and then you have
another good game against weight
1376
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:21,200
where you do what you're
supposed to do against the
1377
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:25,320
lesser team and to y'all's
points.
1378
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:28,360
I think a lot of people are on
the side, regardless what
1379
01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:30,560
happens this year.
I mean, we're seven games in,
1380
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:32,720
we're already at three wins,
took eleven last year to get
1381
01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:35,560
there.
It also what we were talking
1382
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:38,040
about, the issues that we're
having, and I've said this a
1383
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:42,320
couple times, the issues we had
last year, it literally lasted
1384
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:46,280
from game four to game 11, where
there were issues starting with
1385
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:51,090
Game 2 that roughly by game five
things were starting to change,
1386
01:13:51,090 --> 01:13:53,490
right?
Some guys weren't seeing the
1387
01:13:53,490 --> 01:13:57,930
field play, Calling was changed.
And I think now it's this is a
1388
01:13:57,930 --> 01:14:00,770
real test for not only for the
whole staff, but for Brent
1389
01:14:00,770 --> 01:14:03,330
Prize, a head coach, because
you're feeling good after
1390
01:14:03,330 --> 01:14:07,130
weight, can you get everybody
grounded and say that means
1391
01:14:07,130 --> 01:14:09,410
nothing unless you don't go out
there and beat their asses
1392
01:14:09,410 --> 01:14:11,770
Thursday night?
It's going to be a packed house.
1393
01:14:11,850 --> 01:14:14,330
It's going to be 730, it's going
to be on ESPN.
1394
01:14:14,410 --> 01:14:16,690
We're going to have about 3 1/2
million eyes on us.
1395
01:14:17,110 --> 01:14:20,390
Go out there and do it.
Show that we are on the way to
1396
01:14:20,390 --> 01:14:23,390
being who we were.
Yeah, and this is that step
1397
01:14:23,390 --> 01:14:24,910
forward.
So Tally was talking about
1398
01:14:24,910 --> 01:14:30,750
before Wake how important Wake
was to keep a bowl on the on the
1399
01:14:30,790 --> 01:14:33,310
on the plate, right.
Wake kept the bowl on the plate.
1400
01:14:33,310 --> 01:14:37,430
This is where you start putting
yourself into that conversation
1401
01:14:37,910 --> 01:14:42,910
because it is a more middle of
the road ACC team because it is
1402
01:14:42,910 --> 01:14:46,030
on Thursday night and it's a
game that has a bunch of eyes on
1403
01:14:46,030 --> 01:14:48,460
it.
So this is where you take that
1404
01:14:48,460 --> 01:14:51,380
next step.
You know you had, you had to get
1405
01:14:51,380 --> 01:14:55,220
wake behind you to even get to
this point where this game
1406
01:14:55,220 --> 01:14:57,860
matters and this game has some
stakes attached to it.
1407
01:14:58,420 --> 01:15:00,420
Now you're here.
Go out there and handle the
1408
01:15:00,420 --> 01:15:01,460
business.
There you go.
1409
01:15:01,620 --> 01:15:04,980
Sheldon, anything else to add?
Yeah, I mean, it's like I was
1410
01:15:04,980 --> 01:15:07,980
saying, it's just this is a game
where you feel like everyone's
1411
01:15:07,980 --> 01:15:10,580
coming in hype.
It's Thursday night, and I'm not
1412
01:15:10,580 --> 01:15:13,740
trying to be at Debbie Downer,
but this is one of those games
1413
01:15:13,740 --> 01:15:16,050
in Virginia Tech lore.
Where you look back on it and
1414
01:15:16,050 --> 01:15:19,490
say man what a what a classic
Virginia Tech game to lose.
1415
01:15:19,850 --> 01:15:23,930
So I just think it's AI, just
think it's a big game and like
1416
01:15:23,930 --> 01:15:26,090
you just got to win the ticket,
the fan base on your side.
1417
01:15:26,090 --> 01:15:29,530
Like if you go into the the
Louisville week four and four,
1418
01:15:29,770 --> 01:15:32,850
three and one, like I mean
you're feeling pretty good.
1419
01:15:32,850 --> 01:15:37,210
So it's just it's a big game.
Can I say this?
1420
01:15:37,250 --> 01:15:39,290
You talked about the classic
left down game.
1421
01:15:39,810 --> 01:15:42,410
Let this be the place where it
re goes the other way, where it
1422
01:15:42,410 --> 01:15:45,750
did for years, where Thursday
nights was you come and you're
1423
01:15:45,750 --> 01:15:47,590
in play on Thursday night.
You're not going to win.
1424
01:15:48,430 --> 01:15:49,590
You're not going to win this
game.
1425
01:15:50,310 --> 01:15:53,030
And on some of those Thursday
nights it was not only a win, it
1426
01:15:53,030 --> 01:15:57,070
was a damn beat down.
And can we peak that?
1427
01:15:57,070 --> 01:15:59,830
Can we get through this thing of
losing Thursday nights?
1428
01:15:59,830 --> 01:16:03,270
Can we start going back the
right way in what history tells
1429
01:16:03,270 --> 01:16:06,150
us the way it should be?
All right, anything breaking in
1430
01:16:06,150 --> 01:16:09,970
the last hour and 17?
Tally joined us live here.
1431
01:16:13,410 --> 01:16:16,650
Hey man, the the, the links in
in Twitter.
1432
01:16:16,650 --> 01:16:19,570
Jump on, links in Twitter.
Jump on.
1433
01:16:20,050 --> 01:16:22,370
He's driving.
I think we missed you tonight,
1434
01:16:22,370 --> 01:16:23,850
Tally.
We know you'll be back next
1435
01:16:23,850 --> 01:16:25,930
week, man.
Maybe Tally will jump on to a
1436
01:16:25,930 --> 01:16:27,330
space on Wednesday night or
something.
1437
01:16:27,330 --> 01:16:29,250
Who knows?
All right, well, that is going
1438
01:16:29,250 --> 01:16:32,650
to wrap up this episode of the
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1439
01:16:32,650 --> 01:16:34,730
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1440
01:16:35,090 --> 01:16:37,250
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1441
01:16:37,950 --> 01:16:41,230
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That was a long time ago.
1445
01:16:54,230 --> 01:16:57,230
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1446
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Hokey.
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Music
and Welcome back to the Boundary
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Corner Podcast along with my
partners Brian Siegler and
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Shelton Moss.
I am Curtis Wilson in this
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episode is brought to you by
Doctor Jeremy Counts down at the
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Welcome to Sunday night boys.
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We haven't done a Sunday night
when in 62 weeks.
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It's been a while, man.
It's been a while since we
10
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rolled on Sunday night.
Not my favorite night, but you
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know what?
We're here.
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We're doing it.
We're we're we're going to put a
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good episode out there.
I'm looking forward to talking a
14
00:01:23,340 --> 00:01:26,920
little bit about Syracuse and.
Kind of putting a bow on the
15
00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:28,720
first half of the season for the
Hokies?
16
00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,320
Absolutely.
Sheldon, you've been a busy man
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00:01:31,320 --> 00:01:33,080
this weekend.
What you told us is we were
18
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chatting off air here.
That's right.
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Been been working on the company
dime.
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They've got me performing other
duties as assigned.
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Other duties.
You got to love that caveat,
22
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right?
Like do you get emailed this or
23
00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,360
is it literally a face to face
telling it something?
24
00:01:54,420 --> 00:01:57,820
No, I just, I got to it's it's
just the the nature of working
25
00:01:57,820 --> 00:01:59,420
in sports, like you got to work
weekends.
26
00:01:59,420 --> 00:02:01,780
So you know, I've signed, I've
signed up for the job.
27
00:02:01,780 --> 00:02:04,420
I can't, you know, complain
about it too much, but hopefully
28
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there will be better days ahead.
Absolutely it will.
29
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It will.
And you know you're able to join
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us tonight, not on a Tuesday,
because there are times where
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you cannot join us midweek.
So it's great to have you here.
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As y'all can see, we are not a
four pack tonight because our
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man Tally had to take his
daughter for a collegiate visit
34
00:02:22,940 --> 00:02:26,040
today and was going to be
getting back late this evening.
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So again, we get it.
We get it.
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Things like this happen to all
of us and.
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Somewhat impromptu, so we had
to, you know, make it happen,
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Make it work.
Life, man.
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Yep.
That's why that's what it is.
40
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I'm I'm, I'm, I'm happy for him
and happy for her that they're,
41
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they're getting that
opportunity.
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So absolutely what it's all
about and it's Sunday night.
43
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Our me and Brian said we'll
occasionally snap up because it
44
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is essentially sports.
It's the peak sports season
45
00:02:54,810 --> 00:02:58,490
right now with collegiate and
Pro Football going on.
46
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Get the Dolphins and the Eagles
and game six Astros, Rangers
47
00:03:04,930 --> 00:03:06,410
have it.
We're two days away from
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basketball getting going.
Oh my God, it's, it's, it's,
49
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it's that time of year.
Yeah man, it's great.
50
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Like next week is Peak Sports
week.
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I don't care what anybody says
next week is Peak Sports week of
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the entire year.
Argue with me if you want but
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it.
I mean it is.
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I mean World Series will be
starting.
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You're in the midst of right in
the middle of the seasons.
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Things are starting to stay
shape.
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College football poll comes out
or the playoff picture comes out
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starts.
It's just it's that magical time
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of year.
Plus it's Halloween.
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Oh yeah, Halloween.
And if we saying that, let's go
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ahead and make this
announcement, we will be going
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live next Monday night because
ain't no way.
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You ain't going to see us on
Halloween night, man.
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I mean, you might see me start,
start the the show on Monday
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night, you know, wearing like,
AI don't know, screen mask or a
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hockey mask or some shit.
But yeah, something like that.
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You know we're not going to do
it on Halloween.
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Absolutely.
All right.
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So tonight what do we have for
y'all?
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Well as always we've got know
the enemy.
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We are going to be taking a look
at Syracuse Orange man.
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Some of their players schemes
for the battle in Lane Stadium
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on Thursday night which will be
I think is a 730 kick.
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But before we get into that, we
want to do a little mid season
75
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grades because it's almost in
our bylaws we have to do a mid
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season grade like if not the
sports Podcast post, we might
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have to be taken to trial
because we didn't do one for our
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team and similar to some of the
questions we had to ask.
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Brett, the bylaws, They won't
even let us put the show out if
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we don't.
Yeah, they won't.
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They're like you can't do it
unless you do this episode this
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week.
But we're going to do some mid
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season grades here and we're
going to look at offense then
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defense and just kind of give
where we feel as a team we are
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and let's just jump into that
and let's start with obviously
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the most talked about room in
Hockey Nation and that is the
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quarterback room and obviously
right now Kyron Drones is
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leading the way.
We did start out with Grant,
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Wells and Sheldon, I'm going to
start with you.
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What grade do you give that room
for the season so far?
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Well, all things considered, I
mean, I'd say give him AAB
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minus.
I mean, I think Karen Jones came
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in for an integrant.
Wells did pretty well.
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I think he's progressed in terms
of his understanding of the, you
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know, the Mentals part of the
game, making reads in the RPO
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game, making reads in the
throwing game.
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I think his, his accuracy has
gotten better, His confidence
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has gotten better and forgot
that, you know, it was kind of a
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project coming out of high
school, you know, first full
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time year as a time as a
starter.
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I think there is, There's a lot
to like and I think some of the,
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you know, PFF grades have
reflected that he's done, he's
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done pretty well and still just
a red shirt sophomore.
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So I'm pretty, I'm pretty happy
with that.
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I mean, obviously with Wells you
can't really, you know, judge
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based off, you know, 1 1/2
games.
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But just looking at what Jones
has done this year, I think I
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there's a lot of reasons to be
very confident about how he's
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he's developed.
So just a sophomore Brian?
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Right there with Sheldon I got
AB minus and and pretty much
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similar reasons I mean.
You know you you kind of
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discount everything that we saw
from from Grant Wells.
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I'm I'm looking at this room
primarily on what Drones has
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done and what Drones has been
able to progress throughout the
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starts that he's had.
Looking back, you know that last
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series against Purdue and then
kind of how he's progressed as a
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as a starting quarterback since
then.
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It's really been good to see him
get acclimated in the offense.
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As Shelton said, get a lot more
confidence running the offense.
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I think that was probably the
thing that took a little while
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to kind of get there is that he
knows he's a, he's a gamer, he's
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a baller.
But there are times when you got
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to rein that in.
There's times when you got to
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unleash that and kind of getting
that feel within the constructs
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of Tyler Bowen's system, I think
is what took him a little while
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to kind of get under his feet.
But I'm liking what I'm seeing
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and it's only probably going to
get better from here.
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So looking forward to see what
he can do on the back half here.
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Well, see, I'm not that far
behind y'all, but I take into
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the account everything that
happened.
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I meant like ACC Plus right
there on that edge.
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And here's why.
Because again, the mistake was
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made to start Grant Wells to
begin the season you slit,
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drones start against ODU and
Purdue against probably the two
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worst offensive teams we've seen
all year.
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How much better are we today?
So I give him an A minus.
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In my opinion, drones is an A
minus by himself.
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The well stuff and how that was
handled up to this point put me
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just slightly above average.
But to the court y'all both said
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the maturation of Kyron is
impressive because he had to
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come in.
Don't you wish we would have
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went Rutgers, Marshall, then
Purdue, Old Dominion?
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Wouldn't it that, but because he
comes in against a six and two
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bowl eligible Rutgers team in a
very good defense in Marshall,
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that's what he has to come out
the gate against.
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And you saw him.
He took his lumps, he took his
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things and now you're starting
to see him get and improve more
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and more with the film.
So I'm going to again AC plus
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right out of C in that room.
I'm going to flip to the running
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back room next.
And even though the stats aren't
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there, based on everything
that's going on in front of them
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and everything that's happened,
I think the way primarily
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Malachi Thomas and big shout out
to Basil Tune give me AB Plus
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for that room.
They are breaking tackles.
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They are making positive yards
and ever since the switch to
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drones we see we are every week.
We're going up in the offensive
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rushing categories every week.
I want to say we're averaging
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now like 178 since Kyron has
become the quarterback.
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That's that's one of those
things.
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If you take a look at the
numbers out there, 178 puts you
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in the top 50, roughly.
If you tell me we're a top 50
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rushing teams, I don't think we
lose the Purdue game.
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I think the Rutgers game is a
lot more of a battle.
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At that point, we'll say you,
Shelton.
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Yeah, I'd go, I'd go B plus.
I mean, I think, you know,
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obviously baseball tunes been
awesome.
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You know, he's forced a ton of
his tackles.
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I don't.
I was trying to look up the
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numbers, but you know.
A lot of his tackles obviously
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means you know you're you're
early line and is not
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necessarily doing the job that
you you want them to be.
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Ideally you'd like to have more
you know breakaway breakaway
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carries but regardless you know
he's he's he's brought a lot of
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explosiveness to that room and I
think Thomas is a guy that kind
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of struggled out of the gate but
he did have a really good game
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against Wake Forest.
So put those two together I I'm
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overall I'm pretty pleased with
that.
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It's obviously with running
backs it's hard to judge because
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you know, so much of their
success is dependent on other
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people, not just the online but
also the the passing game too.
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But if you just try to isolate
them individually, I think
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they've done very well.
Yeah, I'm not too far behind
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you, Sheldon.
I'm.
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I've got AB for for this group.
I think overall, I think if
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Thomas had been putting his
output similar to what we've
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seen from Tuden, you know, in
games other than probably the
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last two weeks, I'd probably
have them ready to B plus or B
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but with him having a little bit
of trouble getting going.
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That's that kind of brought it
down to just a just to be for
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me.
But you know, I think that
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looking at Tootin, he's really a
dynamic player coming out of the
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back field.
We've seen what he can do,
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catching the ball, making guys
miss, breaking tackles.
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I like the way he finishes his
run.
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So seeing that out of that room,
if we can just get marginally
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better offensive line play, you
know, I think that room could
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really break out but.
You know, they're starting to
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just kind of turn a corner a
little bit, especially now with
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with drones in the game as well,
giving them a little bit more
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space to operate.
And and y'all both mention
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Malachi, Thomas Malachi over his
last couple of games, averaging
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just under 6 yards a carry.
That is really nice as a
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complimentary back to what we
know Tootin can do.
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All right, let's flip over to
the skill positions and let's
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talk about the wide receiver in
the tight end.
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Brian, you leave me with this
one where you feel, what do you
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feel this room is at?
I got them at a mine is probably
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the best overall grade that I'm
going to give on the whole team.
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I think the wide receiver
output, especially considering
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that Ollie Jennings has went
down that room has really
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performed well overall.
And you know looking at the
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tight ends, I think it's kind of
up and down.
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You know we also had an injury
there so there's been some and
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and other guys have been nicked
up as we went along.
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So it's it's been a lot of.
Couple big injuries in those
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those rooms, but they've still
taken it in stride and really
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have kind of elevated the
offensive play.
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It's kind of we've gone along
through the season, so excited
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about that room and and excited
to see what they can do down the
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stretch.
What about you, Sheldon?
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What about the wideout room and
any any scores, any PFF grades
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that jumped out to you?
No, I mean, honestly for this
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one I, you know, I think we
don't even need to look at the
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grades really.
You can kind of just see the the
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added explosiveness.
I mean I think Jalen Lane
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presents a yak yards after catch
slash speed element that Tech
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has been lacking for for quite a
few seasons even, you know
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during some of the Fuente years
where they had some good wide
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receivers and you know obviously
Ally Jennings beyond hurts a lot
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because you know he's going to
be a big time player.
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I think Felton's been, you know
a little bit up and down.
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Would have liked to see more
production from him but you know
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it's you're not going to get
everybody the ball with you know
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a more of a a more of a run
heavy offense so.
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I think they've done a pretty
good job and I think the
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blocking for the most part has
been pretty good too.
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Like that's something that, you
know, I know that Coach Minds is
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big on the details.
You look at the pit game, you
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know they run the ball outside
constantly and those play, those
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plays don't work unless you get
good perimeter blocking.
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So I think the biggest
encouraging thing for me is the
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fact that our perimeter blocking
is is much more up to par than
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it has been in recent seasons.
Yep.
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And I'm with Brian on this one
in both of y'all this room.
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It like you said, we really
probably didn't even need to
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talk about it.
But it's still fun to because
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I've got this one rated at an A.
And you kind of look up and down
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and you talk about guys being up
and down, Shelton.
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But the up and down is for a
good reason because there are so
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many guys to distribute the ball
to.
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You know, Daquan Felton just the
other day had like 3 catches for
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what, 1920 yards?
A couple of them are stick
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movers, very important.
But Steven Gosnell lit it up
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along with Jay Lane last week.
They all have their niche rolls.
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Yes, you have Felton, who can
take it off the top lane, who
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can make people miss in space,
Gosnell, who's great at finding
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those zones.
And then the two young tight
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ends with Gosnell and Wright.
You know, those guys, you know,
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have a combined 25 catches, you
know, 327 yards.
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They're averaging over 10 a
catch.
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They're averaging over 10,
actually over 12 a catch.
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And when you had all that on the
field, are there going to be
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games where they get one catch?
Yes, but that catch may be a
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huge play.
I go back to last week's game
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and that wheel route that was
caught by Daquan right down on
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the sideline, how big a play
that was.
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It moved us right to the other
side of the field and like I
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said, with Felton catching a few
first downs.
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So everybody's playing a role
there.
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And and that's what we did not
have last year.
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We had one guy last year who was
effectively able to do that.
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And now we have multiple at
different levels.
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All right, let's go to the
offensive line.
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Brian, hold your tongue.
You're going last on this one.
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But Shelton, sorry, man, sorry,
you're going, you're going to
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blow us up with some stuff.
Shelton, what is your grade on
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the offensive line and your
justifications behind it?
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Look, I'll go, I got to go D
plus.
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I mean I'm sorry, but it's just
been it's been rough.
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I mean you know there's there's
ways with the events that we
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have now to isolate offensive
line play from running back
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play.
So obviously when you look at
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yards per rush, that's colored
by, you know, quarterback
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scrambles, quarterback runs
design runs and obviously
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running backs breaking up big
plays.
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But when you'll get things like,
you know, line yards per carry,
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you know, for most of the
season, Tech was absolutely one
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of the worst in the country.
One of the worst in Power Five,
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certainly.
Now it has gotten better over
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the past couple weeks.
I think they're last time I
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checked they were somewhere
around like 107 out of 133,
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something like that.
It was like below 125 for for
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some time.
So it's just been a rough man
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and like I, you know, I, I watch
the games on tape, you know, you
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can see it on film.
It's just they're some, it's
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part of it.
I think it's physicality but
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also part of it's just, you
know, missed assignments and I
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don't know what the corrections
are.
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Obviously they've got to, you
know, tweak the roster once the
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offseason comes around.
But you know, we we could get
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into all the reasons why the
personal is the way it is.
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But I just, I don't think the
issues are correctable and I got
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to go D plus, I'm sorry it's
been that bad.
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All right.
I am a slight, just one plus
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below you.
I'm at AD for that line.
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It could be lower.
It could be almost a failure.
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But I will say this, of that
line, the one thing that has
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kind of been a slight bright
spot is seeing three guys who
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all have AFR next to their name
have some of the higher scores.
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You know you shared with us last
week.
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Xavier Chaplin scored,
unbelievable in all aspects
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against Wake Forest.
Braylon Moore scored very well.
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Kayden Moore, which let we
should do an episode.
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Just Brian discussing the center
position and the difficulty and
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why a great bad grade to have
there and then seeing Brody
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Meadows come on.
Those guys have been bright
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spots.
They're they're freshmen.
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So when you see missed
assignments and stuff like that,
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obviously y'all know where we
feel about the other guys and
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how we've discussed it.
But it has been below average
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and to be three and four and the
running game slowly getting
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going.
Not having that good of an
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offensive line is something, but
it's also what you just said,
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Shelton.
Things have to be things have to
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be done in the offseason and
it'll be interesting to see that
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now.
Brian.
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My turn.
Your turn.
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D minus how low of AD minus on a
scale of.
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Zero to two.
So when I when I was first, my
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instinct was to give it an F and
then I was like, no, and it's
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because of what you just said,
Curtis.
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It's because we've got guys with
freshmen next to their name that
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are showing some potential, that
are showing some bright spots,
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that are starting to put things
together a little bit on the
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offensive line.
That shows that.
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Crook is getting is getting
something out of them he we're
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making some progress on that
front but I'm also with Sheldon.
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I don't think that what's there
is I think we're we're we're
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kind of getting as much juice
out of them at this point as I
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think we're going to get out of
them the rest of the season.
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I don't know if you're going to
see necessarily the the, the,
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the steps that we've seen from
those freshens going forward,
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it's going to be more like those
little.
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Tick up, tick up here, tick up
there and, but you're still
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looking at a right side.
That's pretty atrocious and
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that's not really going
anywhere, it seems.
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So, all right, last question, If
there is a change on the
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offensive line, do we see it
Thursday?
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I think if you're going to see a
if they're going to make a
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switch that's going to be a full
time switch, that's when you
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would see it in terms of the
depth chart.
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So I guess we'll find out.
What Tuesday when the depth
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chart comes out, if any, any
adjustments have been made
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there, but you know it.
Barring that, I don't see us
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making a significant leap going
forward.
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I think it's, you know, it might
get into Shelton's range where
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I'd give it AD Plus, but I don't
think we're really going up a
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letter grade here.
Brian says no letter grade up.
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We'll we'll we'll see, you know,
I'm sure we'll do something
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similar to this in a few weeks
here and see how it feels.
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All right, let's flip over to
the defensive side of the ball
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and let's start with the
defensive line.
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So, Siegel, I'll get you to
floor on this one how you feel
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about the defensive line so far.
I'm giving AB minus.
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I think we've seen some really
bright spots, especially from
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Antoine Powell Ryland, you know
he's getting up there in sacks
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in the nation.
We've seen him be able to impact
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the plays even when he's not
getting to the quarterback, just
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with that speed and people
having to identify him pre snap.
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I think the.
The interior guys have been kind
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of up and down, but I I like
seeing Fidarius Payne really
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come into his own and really
become an impact player on that
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defensive line.
That's somebody we were hoping
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at the start of the season we
would just get something out of
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in that rotation.
And he's really kind of been, in
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my opinion, one of the best
players on the defensive line,
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especially now that he's getting
enough reps to kind of show
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that.
So those are kind of the bright
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spots there.
You know, I think there were
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some problems along there.
They where they weren't giving
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enough to kind of help some of
the other deficiencies we have
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in that running game.
So that's probably where I'm
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knocking them down a little bit,
but I think overall they've
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they've played pretty well so
far this year.
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Sheldon, what about you?
Yeah, I'm going to give a solid
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C plus.
Again, I'm grading on a curve.
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You got a bunch of C You got a
bunch of seniors on that D line,
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and if they were freshmen, I
might be more charitable, but.
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I just think, you know, to be
honest, they just they don't
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have the dudes.
I mean the interior guys have
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been kind of pushed around a
little bit.
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I just, you know, when you look
at guys like Kendricks and
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Pollard, yeah, they've done OK.
But they just don't live in the
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backfield.
Like they're not you know,
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eating up space and and getting
to the QB and and you know,
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stuffing those run lanes.
Obviously defensive ends have
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been pretty good.
Felder Felder's pain has been
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awesome.
AP Rs been really good.
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Both those guys have generated
lots of QB pressures.
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So you know it kind of a a kind
of a hit or miss type of
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situation where you got a lot of
production from your DS, but not
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so much from the D TS.
I think overall it's been pretty
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average and we know that the
Russian grades aren't very good.
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But again, part of that gets
back to the linebackers, which
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you know, obviously we'll
discuss very shortly.
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We will discuss them very
shortly.
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I'm actually going higher than
both of Y'all Shelton.
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You're a full letter grade below
me.
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I think I'm going B plus because
the middle.
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It's done what I expected.
The interior has done what I
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expected.
They have, not really.
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Significantly fallen off the
Cliff.
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They played good at times.
Pain has been the bright spot
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there, but really the edge guys
have really stepped it up like
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Y'all mentioned with APR and you
know you're seeing, you know
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Cray play solid.
You're seeing those guys play
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solid and contribute and they
are younger guys.
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Again, I think maybe my curve
was.
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I know what I'm going to get out
of this group.
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So as long as they get what I
expect and these outside guys do
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better, I'm going to be a little
bit more lenient.
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And that's what I want on this
one.
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And hey, somebody's with me.
B plus on that.
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All right, Shelton, since you
brought it up, I'll let you lead
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right into it.
Where's your grade on the
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linebacker room?
Yeah, I'm going D Mayas.
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I mean, I just don't know what
very little redeeming qualities
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with this group.
Look, they played, they played
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better against Wake Forest.
That's no doubt about that.
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But for the most part, I mean
it's just been horrible like so
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I mean we are again one of the,
you know, bottom 10 percentile
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and pretty much all the rushing
stats.
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And when you look at the number
of explosive plays, it's pretty
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clear that the linebackers are
the problem because you know, in
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terms of success rate, I think
Tech is more kind of middle of
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the pack.
So like they're they're getting,
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you know, some stops.
It's just that when when those
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running backs get to the second
level, when they do have a
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successful play, it tends to be
really successful.
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It tends to be a big play.
So that's an indication that
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your second level guys aren't
getting the job done.
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And you know, between Allen,
Tennessee, who struggled and you
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know Kay Lawson who's had his
moments, I just, I I just have a
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hard time looking at this group
and seeing what you know, what
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they've done well.
I'm just to me, I'm just average
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because I think we're a lot of
those bad grades you see come
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at.
It's when people who are not
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seeing the field anymore were
there and we saw that numerous
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times and numerous games.
I'm not saying Lawson and the
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rest of them are like blowing it
out the water, but to me, I I
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kind of look at this and say
here's the really bad part.
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If I Add all this, I'm probably
AD Plus.
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C minus low.
But then what I saw happen
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though was the decision was made
right?
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There's certain guys we have not
seen on the field at the
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linebacker spot in weeks, at
least not as much.
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Not as hardly any.
And when I see that, it's like
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if I take a look at the snapshot
of who's now playing significant
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reps, it's AC.
If you so, Shelton, if you want
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me to do the whole thing, give
me AC minus.
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What's the grading scale?
It would be a 70 on the number
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if you ask me to look at as a
whole.
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But for the guys who are
significantly getting the reps
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now I'll give them for that mid
you know mid C grade Ron yeah
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I'm I'm AC minus just bad run
fits for for weeks and weeks.
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You know, really the Wake Forest
game is the only game I think
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you can point to and say they
had.
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They did a really good job both
consistently and with stopping
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the explosive plays, 'cause we
still have some explosive play
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against Pitt's Pitt, even though
we more or less held them in
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check.
It's just it's it's been
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inconsistent in the run game.
I mean if if you told me just to
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grade how they've held up
against the past, I mean pretty
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well overall.
I mean they we haven't been
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thrown on much mainly because
they can run the ball against us
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fairly well.
But if if we continue to see the
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type of play we've seen kind of
I'd say even the last three
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weeks going forward, I mean this
grade could maybe get up to AC
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plus I don't see it.
Again similar to what I said
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with the offensive line, I don't
know if this necessarily gets a
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full letter grade jump, but now
if we see what we saw against
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Wake the rest of the season,
then yeah, I can see a full
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letter grade jump.
But I think, I think the last
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three weeks on a whole is more
indicative of what they are
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capable of.
I think the first few weeks was
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probably bottom of the barrel
and I think it was some of that
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adjustment of all right, well,
this guy has some ability here,
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but he's not doing the right
thing consistently.
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So we got to get him out of the
game.
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You got to pull the guys out.
They have ability and that's
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kind of the way it is.
Again, that's I think that's how
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we look at things.
It would be really interesting
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to Cindy at the end of the
season.
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And this, I think this would go
for every group would be pull it
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out and look at snap counts
starting at ODU in a chart like
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by the end of the season where
guys are who started getting
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more reps who lost their reps
and then seeing how that overall
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play is, especially in the
linebacker room.
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All right.
We're going to look at the
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safety room next.
And I'm, I'm going C minus and
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this was my seventy.
It almost was AD plus because
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the safety room.
Was struggling for a while
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there.
And that's what happens when you
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have a guy who's converted from
the offense in the offseason and
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you have a true freshman playing
Nasir Peoples.
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Although Nasir is a good player.
Nasir was.
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This was the ship that steadied
everything back there.
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Dalen Stroman's a great player.
I have no doubts about that.
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But when the next two guys were
young, that inexperienced or
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you're rotating canteen or
delaying in?
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It really hurt that room a lot
and that's why thankfully
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people's got over that injury
and he's back because if he
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hadn't been back the last few
weeks, this would have been AD
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plus grade for me.
But with him back and kind of
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steadying the ship back there
both in pass and run coverage,
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give me AC minus Brian, we said
at the start of the year that
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depth was a big concern at the
safety position and.
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We did.
That played out like a
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motherfucker for about the first
month.
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Just I mean that that that's
what happened.
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I mean we we ended up having a
converted wide receiver and a
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true freshman as our primary
safeties for large chunks of
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time in about 3 or four games.
That's not what you want and and
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that and I'm not taking anything
away from Jalen or or most, but
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sometimes you're just not quite
ready for, for that type of
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responsibility that early in
your career, that early in your
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transition to a new position.
I think they are players that at
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this point are fine for series
at a time here or there, maybe
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even 1/4 at a time here or
there, but they're not ready to
530
00:28:17,990 --> 00:28:19,510
hold up for four quarters like
that.
531
00:28:20,340 --> 00:28:24,100
And when you have that coupled
with inconsistent linebacker
532
00:28:24,100 --> 00:28:28,340
play coupled with an interior
defensive line that kind of can
533
00:28:28,340 --> 00:28:32,260
get moved around a little bit,
that's a recipe for big plays.
534
00:28:32,300 --> 00:28:36,020
And that that's what we saw.
And you know, you know, you can,
535
00:28:36,060 --> 00:28:38,620
we can kind of stack it level by
level here.
536
00:28:38,620 --> 00:28:41,020
But the safety, I mean that
there's a reason it's called a
537
00:28:41,020 --> 00:28:45,620
safety, right?
So at some point, they've got to
538
00:28:45,620 --> 00:28:47,180
make the play that stops the
touchdown.
539
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,840
Betray Shelton.
Yeah, I'll go see.
540
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,560
I mean kind of what you were
talking about the with the
541
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,880
linebackers.
Curtis, this isn't a situation
542
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,000
where obviously the personnel in
the field is not what the
543
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,640
coaches wanted to come into the
season.
544
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,280
You got guys like most of those
playing meaningful snaps.
545
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,520
Jalen Jones and Kale Bootsen are
two are the two worst graded
546
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,360
safeties in the ACC.
It's just been a constant
547
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,280
revolving door.
So it's kind of hard to judge.
548
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,160
Obviously, like you mentioned,
people losing Peoples was big.
549
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,100
Stroman's been good.
I think the guys that when you
550
00:29:18,100 --> 00:29:21,180
look at the guys that they they
expected to start the season,
551
00:29:21,180 --> 00:29:22,660
the guys that they wanted in
there, I think they've done
552
00:29:22,660 --> 00:29:24,580
pretty well.
It's just been a constant
553
00:29:24,580 --> 00:29:27,780
revolving door.
So again, you know, I I give, I
554
00:29:27,780 --> 00:29:30,100
give them AC grade, but it's
with the context that they just
555
00:29:30,100 --> 00:29:31,660
have not had any sort of
continuity there.
556
00:29:32,420 --> 00:29:34,700
Yeah, and hopefully with people
finally coming back, like I
557
00:29:34,700 --> 00:29:39,740
said, steady the ship to what?
Bryant Touché.
558
00:29:41,180 --> 00:29:43,340
All of the above.
All of the above.
559
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,680
Love that one.
All right, let's flip it one
560
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,760
more room as we wrap up this
segment and let's talk about the
561
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:54,680
corner back room.
Brian, I'll let you lead with
562
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,880
this one.
I'm going to go a a very solid B
563
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,880
plus.
So this is a 89 if we're, if
564
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,440
we're on the 10 point scale it's
a 89.
565
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,880
I like what I've seen from the
cornerbacks.
566
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,720
The lane has been as advertised,
strong, probably coming back and
567
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,320
having his best year since his
freshman campaign.
568
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,720
I've liked what I've seen from
Canteen especially, you know,
569
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,160
him being able to get some
turnovers in there, that's been
570
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,480
big for this defense.
So those guys have held up and
571
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,040
I've liked what I've seen from
the true freshman that have
572
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,120
gotten some run at that
position, you know.
573
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,680
So it's it's really been a good
overall performance.
574
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,640
The only knock I'm going to give
is that they haven't been tested
575
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,800
a ton this year, so I don't know
how good they truly are.
576
00:30:41,140 --> 00:30:43,700
So that's kind of why I'm I'm
holding back from putting an A
577
00:30:43,700 --> 00:30:46,900
grade on them yet.
But overall, I like I I like
578
00:30:46,900 --> 00:30:48,100
what I've seen.
So I'm going to give them AB
579
00:30:48,100 --> 00:30:50,900
Plus.
Sean, what about you?
580
00:30:51,900 --> 00:30:55,980
Yeah, I'll go BI think.
Canteen's been a good depth that
581
00:30:55,980 --> 00:30:58,980
he's, he's graded out really
well in terms of run defense.
582
00:30:59,500 --> 00:31:02,100
Strong has been fantastic in
coverage all season long.
583
00:31:02,700 --> 00:31:05,180
I I think overall, like you
said, they haven't been tested
584
00:31:05,180 --> 00:31:06,500
much.
So I think that's kind of where
585
00:31:06,500 --> 00:31:08,900
some stats can be misleading in
terms of the the pass yards per
586
00:31:08,900 --> 00:31:11,980
game, allowed yards per attempt.
It's still good, not as good,
587
00:31:11,980 --> 00:31:15,980
but still pretty good.
So I think given you know what
588
00:31:15,980 --> 00:31:18,260
they've gone through this season
with in terms of just you know,
589
00:31:18,540 --> 00:31:21,420
the safety rotations and some
guys playing out of position,
590
00:31:22,060 --> 00:31:23,980
I'm sure it's affected them to
some degree because obviously
591
00:31:23,980 --> 00:31:25,620
when you have younger players in
there, you don't.
592
00:31:26,230 --> 00:31:28,350
It's it's hard to, you know,
trust that they're all playing
593
00:31:28,350 --> 00:31:30,430
their assignments that can that
can hamper your effectiveness
594
00:31:30,430 --> 00:31:32,110
sometimes.
But I think I'll tell you, all
595
00:31:32,110 --> 00:31:34,350
things considered, they've done
very well, so I'll give them the
596
00:31:34,350 --> 00:31:37,190
B.
Yeah, this is my highest graded
597
00:31:37,190 --> 00:31:41,710
group on the defense and A
minus, it's the 90 to 91 just
598
00:31:41,710 --> 00:31:43,950
because it's kind of what,
Brian, what you said there about
599
00:31:43,950 --> 00:31:47,390
the young guys have looked
solid, they've been and it's
600
00:31:47,390 --> 00:31:50,230
primarily because they played
them at the right amount, right,
601
00:31:50,310 --> 00:31:52,430
the right amount of snaps, the
right.
602
00:31:52,770 --> 00:31:55,530
Times the right sort of
coverages, they haven't been
603
00:31:55,530 --> 00:31:58,930
thrown into anything big.
And to me, the other four guys
604
00:31:58,930 --> 00:32:00,850
are as advertised.
You mentioned Canteen.
605
00:32:01,250 --> 00:32:02,770
When Canteen was brought in, it
was nickel.
606
00:32:02,770 --> 00:32:05,010
He's coming here to play nickel.
He can help us with the other
607
00:32:05,010 --> 00:32:06,930
spots in the rotation, but he's
coming here to play nickel.
608
00:32:07,250 --> 00:32:10,090
And so when you talk about his
run defense grade, it makes
609
00:32:10,090 --> 00:32:14,650
sense.
And he's definitely making, he's
610
00:32:14,650 --> 00:32:18,730
definitely making, he's making
himself probably some money.
611
00:32:20,180 --> 00:32:22,460
You know at the next level with
how he's playing that position
612
00:32:22,660 --> 00:32:25,700
and then showing the flexibility
to play on the outside.
613
00:32:26,100 --> 00:32:29,260
So I'm going to throw this up
real quick just because
614
00:32:29,260 --> 00:32:31,220
Andretta, you're back.
We missed you last week.
615
00:32:31,540 --> 00:32:34,620
Tally is currently with his
daughter Y'all, doing a little
616
00:32:34,620 --> 00:32:37,180
collegiate tour, so he could not
make it tonight.
617
00:32:37,180 --> 00:32:40,900
Sort of a something that came up
last minute, but again we get
618
00:32:40,900 --> 00:32:41,660
it.
Yeah.
619
00:32:42,300 --> 00:32:44,660
Before we move on Curtis, let me
let me make another note here.
620
00:32:44,940 --> 00:32:47,580
Imagine how good some of these
grades could be if you didn't
621
00:32:47,580 --> 00:32:53,010
have campaign and delaying
playing, rotating at safety for
622
00:32:53,010 --> 00:32:56,130
for part of these these large
stretches of time, those two to
623
00:32:56,130 --> 00:32:57,770
three games that we were talking
about earlier.
624
00:32:57,770 --> 00:33:01,210
So you know, those grades could
potentially be higher for those,
625
00:33:01,370 --> 00:33:03,370
for those players that they
weren't having to take on those
626
00:33:03,370 --> 00:33:07,090
type of roles, you know, out of
necessity because of injuries
627
00:33:07,090 --> 00:33:08,450
and targeting and everything
else.
628
00:33:09,170 --> 00:33:11,970
Yeah, it's very true.
It's it's a lot took it out
629
00:33:11,970 --> 00:33:14,250
again.
That back half has played well.
630
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,240
Even with everything that this
has had to do, it's also a
631
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,320
testament.
Give a testament, a shout out to
632
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:23,320
Coach Jones and Coach Prelu for
having to wrap those up.
633
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,280
There'll be some people disagree
with you there, Jim.
634
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,120
That's why I send a couple
buddies, watch the game, listen
635
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,840
to us.
Hey, man, hey, man, we're we're
636
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,400
we're still here.
You know, I'm still I got I got
637
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:40,920
the game all right above me.
So I I I need Tua and Waddle to
638
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,160
get some action going here
because I need some points in my
639
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,860
fantasy leagues.
Well, I'm losing one league and
640
00:33:49,220 --> 00:33:52,300
yeah, we're not going to do it.
Let me ask this and if y'all are
641
00:33:52,300 --> 00:33:54,460
listening out there, we got, we
got a bunch of people watching
642
00:33:54,460 --> 00:33:57,020
tonight.
All right, what's the one group
643
00:33:57,020 --> 00:34:00,420
between now?
And the week after Thanksgiving,
644
00:34:00,420 --> 00:34:03,020
Y'all are saying that group's
going to definitely improve.
645
00:34:03,180 --> 00:34:04,900
And 1:00 you want to Well, never
mind.
646
00:34:05,140 --> 00:34:07,420
I think the one we all want to
improve is the offensive line.
647
00:34:07,420 --> 00:34:11,060
Could improve is, is can I put
that motion on the table?
648
00:34:11,060 --> 00:34:12,580
Everybody wants the offensive
line today.
649
00:34:12,580 --> 00:34:15,260
Everyone wants to see the onset
line get better, yeah?
650
00:34:15,260 --> 00:34:17,060
Motion pass.
But what's the group you think
651
00:34:17,060 --> 00:34:19,780
will improve SHOT in between now
and the end of the season, based
652
00:34:19,780 --> 00:34:23,699
in your eyes?
In my eyes I would say.
653
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:27,639
I would say probably
linebackers.
654
00:34:27,639 --> 00:34:29,920
I mean I thought they were good
against Wake Forest.
655
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,560
I just, I I trust prize
instincts.
656
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,000
I trust Mars instincts given the
the specialty they have with
657
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,840
those groups.
And I would say I do think that
658
00:34:40,159 --> 00:34:43,280
it's more explainable given the
youth in that room why they've
659
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,639
struggled so much.
I think if given the way the
660
00:34:46,639 --> 00:34:49,960
defensive line is played, OK in
the run game, the corners have
661
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,860
been good.
The safety is not.
662
00:34:51,860 --> 00:34:53,500
They're healthy.
We think we'll be good.
663
00:34:53,699 --> 00:34:56,139
I think the linebacker, the
linebacker crew is that one
664
00:34:56,139 --> 00:34:59,220
missing component.
So if they if they get their act
665
00:34:59,220 --> 00:35:01,300
together, I think the defense
can really take a big step
666
00:35:01,300 --> 00:35:02,980
forward.
Marlon, about you.
667
00:35:04,300 --> 00:35:07,100
Yeah.
I mean, if we're looking at the
668
00:35:07,100 --> 00:35:09,620
group, I'd like to see and prove
the most.
669
00:35:10,460 --> 00:35:12,300
I'm with Sheldon.
It's got to be the linebacker
670
00:35:12,300 --> 00:35:16,730
group, because if the linebacker
group can improve and we stay
671
00:35:16,730 --> 00:35:20,370
healthy in the second area at
the safety position, I feel like
672
00:35:20,370 --> 00:35:25,010
the running game or the run
defense can be serviceable good
673
00:35:25,010 --> 00:35:28,450
enough not allow those big, huge
explosive plays because outside
674
00:35:28,450 --> 00:35:32,210
of the explosive plays, we've
held up fairly well against the
675
00:35:32,210 --> 00:35:33,530
run.
It's really just been those
676
00:35:33,530 --> 00:35:39,010
really big Gashers that have you
know really changed the tide in
677
00:35:39,010 --> 00:35:42,160
a lot of games, in the running
game and kind of really put put
678
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,560
those lopsided numbers in the
stat sheets there.
679
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,160
If we can approve that
linebacker position, you know,
680
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:52,200
one full grade, get it up to
like you know I had AC minus,
681
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,880
let's let's get that thing up to
AAB minus.
682
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:56,480
I think we could be on to
something there.
683
00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:01,040
So if they found a a consistent
rotation and these guys continue
684
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,280
to take steps forward in their
play, I think that would be big.
685
00:36:03,830 --> 00:36:06,870
All right, I'm, I'm going to go
different than both y'all
686
00:36:06,870 --> 00:36:08,150
completely.
And I think it's the
687
00:36:08,150 --> 00:36:10,070
quarterback.
Because I think if we continue
688
00:36:10,070 --> 00:36:14,070
to see the maturation of Kyron
drones between these last five
689
00:36:14,070 --> 00:36:17,470
games and the end of the season,
it it it, it could be something
690
00:36:17,470 --> 00:36:20,070
special because of the steps
he's taken between the end of
691
00:36:20,070 --> 00:36:24,310
that Purdue game and what he did
against Wake Forest, how quick
692
00:36:24,310 --> 00:36:27,650
it was.
How quick it was, how quick he
693
00:36:27,650 --> 00:36:30,770
has moved, especially the 350
last week.
694
00:36:31,530 --> 00:36:33,650
That's who I think could take a
step because you're seeing it
695
00:36:33,650 --> 00:36:35,930
quicker and people can say,
well, they're getting more tape
696
00:36:35,930 --> 00:36:37,850
on him.
They had a lot of tape on him
697
00:36:37,850 --> 00:36:41,290
going to those last three games.
Like like you had the Marshall
698
00:36:41,290 --> 00:36:42,530
tape and you had the Rutgers
tape.
699
00:36:42,530 --> 00:36:45,570
Usually it's just a couple.
I like that one though.
700
00:36:46,170 --> 00:36:49,010
I like that one.
Yeah, the tight end room.
701
00:36:49,450 --> 00:36:50,890
Good.
Good call out there, Derek.
702
00:36:51,780 --> 00:36:53,700
So definitely feed those into
us.
703
00:36:54,380 --> 00:36:59,380
We want to see what you guys
think about that and we are now
704
00:36:59,380 --> 00:37:02,300
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All righty.
738
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So let's hit it up here and
let's talk about know the Enemy
739
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and let's talk about the
Syracuse Orangemen.
740
00:38:37,930 --> 00:38:41,210
Shelton, you were mentioning
some stuff, and since before we
741
00:38:41,210 --> 00:38:45,810
get into specific sides, Sheldon
had some stuff just on Syracuse
742
00:38:45,810 --> 00:38:49,890
in general that he wanted to hit
up before we get into the deep
743
00:38:49,890 --> 00:38:51,250
dive.
So go ahead, Sheldon.
744
00:38:52,590 --> 00:38:55,310
Yeah, it's been a pretty weird
year for them because they
745
00:38:55,310 --> 00:38:57,630
started out really hot in the
non conference play, you know,
746
00:38:57,630 --> 00:38:59,070
being up on some of their
competition.
747
00:38:59,070 --> 00:39:00,350
But the results look pretty
good.
748
00:39:00,950 --> 00:39:03,270
Since they've started conference
play though, they have just
749
00:39:03,270 --> 00:39:05,270
absolutely fun off the Cliff.
I mean it's kind of hard to
750
00:39:05,270 --> 00:39:09,030
really wrap your head around.
I I saw a set on Twitter from
751
00:39:09,030 --> 00:39:11,830
Bill Connolly, so he does the
biggest.
752
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So he looks at the biggest
overachievers and the biggest
753
00:39:14,670 --> 00:39:18,510
under achievers based on, you
know, performance relative to
754
00:39:18,550 --> 00:39:21,970
expected points.
And he waits recent games more
755
00:39:22,010 --> 00:39:23,810
so it kind of looks at what
you're doing recently.
756
00:39:24,170 --> 00:39:26,610
And he had Syracuse as the
second biggest underachiever in
757
00:39:26,610 --> 00:39:30,330
the country.
So they they have just, you
758
00:39:30,330 --> 00:39:33,770
know, kind of fallen apart these
past, you know, 3-4 games.
759
00:39:33,770 --> 00:39:36,810
And it's been kind of apropos of
of Babers's career there.
760
00:39:36,810 --> 00:39:38,450
He's just been really up and
down as a coach.
761
00:39:38,450 --> 00:39:42,010
He had that one great season in
2018 with ten wins and then two
762
00:39:42,010 --> 00:39:44,690
years later he goes one in 10.
And now they've been kind of,
763
00:39:44,730 --> 00:39:47,330
you know, bats around 500.
So I know that you know,
764
00:39:47,330 --> 00:39:48,930
Syracuse is a really hard place
to win.
765
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:54,000
But I I I think this might be a
pretty critical stretch for them
766
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,160
coming up because if you if you
if you tank this season with you
767
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,680
know Garrett Schrader as your
quarterback you know there might
768
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,920
be some some fans calling her
head.
769
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,680
So I this this is a big stretch
coming up for Syracuse.
770
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,560
So I think they're going to come
to this game pretty motivated.
771
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:12,920
You good, Curtis?
Yeah, I'm good.
772
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,400
Just hearing some noises out
here, making sure everything's
773
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,180
OK.
Yeah and you know what I was
774
00:40:18,180 --> 00:40:21,140
listening to a the locked on
sports Syracuse.
775
00:40:21,140 --> 00:40:23,540
They have one of those and that
guy was mentioning something
776
00:40:23,540 --> 00:40:24,860
similar.
Sheldon, similar to what you
777
00:40:24,860 --> 00:40:27,500
talked about about how he's only
had one good season.
778
00:40:28,540 --> 00:40:32,220
Is this it is this 5 game
stretch starting with the Hokies
779
00:40:32,220 --> 00:40:36,220
on Thursday night.
If if he doesn't effectively
780
00:40:36,220 --> 00:40:40,980
have a good turn around between
now and the end of the this
781
00:40:40,980 --> 00:40:46,250
season, could they?
Let him go, because there's only
782
00:40:46,330 --> 00:40:50,250
one season after this one less I
believe, So it's very
783
00:40:50,250 --> 00:40:56,570
interesting to see how it goes.
But now let's do flip, because
784
00:40:56,570 --> 00:40:58,650
like you said, the more recent
results.
785
00:40:58,650 --> 00:41:01,170
Let's flip to the offense and
talk about the most more recent
786
00:41:01,170 --> 00:41:05,370
results, because overall, this
team is averaging 28 points a
787
00:41:05,370 --> 00:41:08,330
game.
It's a solid number in the last
788
00:41:08,330 --> 00:41:10,530
three games.
The one probably why you were so
789
00:41:10,610 --> 00:41:15,090
focused on that, Connolly.
Article They're averaging eight
790
00:41:15,090 --> 00:41:18,050
points in their last three
games, which are three losses to
791
00:41:18,050 --> 00:41:20,450
Clemson, to Carolina and the
Florida State.
792
00:41:21,730 --> 00:41:25,050
You know they're middle of the
road team when it comes to yards
793
00:41:25,570 --> 00:41:28,050
and when you're middle of the
row when it comes to yards and
794
00:41:28,050 --> 00:41:30,890
you look at who they played, and
I'm not trying to disparage, we
795
00:41:30,890 --> 00:41:32,730
played Purdue as well and lost
to them.
796
00:41:33,010 --> 00:41:35,930
They played Colgate, Western
Michigan, Purdue and Army.
797
00:41:37,130 --> 00:41:39,690
It's not a murderer's road to
start O and four.
798
00:41:41,050 --> 00:41:44,200
So now the question is.
Let's take a look at his
799
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,560
offense.
And Brian is a guy that we
800
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,920
definitely, as Hokie fans are
familiar with and that's Jason
801
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,480
Beck.
He was the QB coach down at
802
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:57,360
Virginia from 2016 to 2021.
And what are we looking at with
803
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,800
his offense and what can they
do?
804
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,560
Yeah, I mean, you're looking at
the Smash Mouth spread, heavy
805
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,040
zone read, ton of quarterback
runs.
806
00:42:07,870 --> 00:42:10,830
They have most of their success
in the passing game, off of play
807
00:42:10,830 --> 00:42:14,350
action, off Sprint outs, off
things where they're getting the
808
00:42:14,350 --> 00:42:17,510
quarterback out of the pocket or
using some run action to kind of
809
00:42:17,870 --> 00:42:22,030
confuse the linebackers and and
open up some pass lanes for the
810
00:42:22,030 --> 00:42:24,510
quarterback.
But you're going to see a heavy
811
00:42:24,510 --> 00:42:29,150
dose of run, particularly with
the quarterback expect you know,
812
00:42:29,150 --> 00:42:33,630
upwards of 20 carries or more
for for their quarterback in
813
00:42:33,630 --> 00:42:36,070
this offense.
We've seen it a lot with UVA.
814
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,160
We're going to see it again now
with with Syracuse.
815
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,840
Curtis, we don't have you.
Because I hit the mute button
816
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,680
and forgot to welcome to me on
Zoom meeting sometimes, Let's
817
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:54,240
talk about Garrett Shader 64230.
We know all too much about him.
818
00:42:54,240 --> 00:42:57,160
Back in 2021, he led the
comeback against the Hokies that
819
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,600
essentially, in my opinion, that
was a game that sealed Justin
820
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,240
Fuente's fate.
Yes?
821
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:03,760
Yes.
I was there too.
822
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:04,680
I was there too.
It sucked.
823
00:43:07,190 --> 00:43:12,870
But you know, so far this
season, you know, 62% passing,
824
00:43:13,470 --> 00:43:17,670
you know, 8 touchdowns, 5 picks,
but he has ran a ton.
825
00:43:17,670 --> 00:43:20,270
He is there.
Get it up here.
826
00:43:21,950 --> 00:43:24,470
Where did it go?
You ever have a number up?
827
00:43:24,470 --> 00:43:26,910
And then it just goes away.
There we go.
828
00:43:27,660 --> 00:43:31,500
He has over 350 yards averaging
just over 4 1/2.
829
00:43:32,020 --> 00:43:34,420
Just a little background on him.
He was a pretty highly rated
830
00:43:34,420 --> 00:43:36,500
guy.
Went down to Mississippi State
831
00:43:36,500 --> 00:43:41,100
to begin with in 2019.
Was a top 250 player, top 10,
832
00:43:41,180 --> 00:43:43,980
dual break, quarterback high
four or should mean low four
833
00:43:43,980 --> 00:43:46,580
start in 91.
Had offers from a lot of
834
00:43:46,580 --> 00:43:48,100
different places all over the
country.
835
00:43:48,380 --> 00:43:52,580
And Brian, this is the this is
what, Second you watched a lot
836
00:43:52,580 --> 00:43:54,540
of film on Garrett straighter in
the last few years.
837
00:43:55,020 --> 00:43:56,020
Inadvertently.
Yeah.
838
00:43:56,380 --> 00:43:59,110
It just seems like any any time
out.
839
00:43:59,110 --> 00:44:02,270
Like half the time if I'm
watching tape on other teams,
840
00:44:02,270 --> 00:44:04,070
it's like, all right, the last
game was Syracuse.
841
00:44:04,070 --> 00:44:05,630
All right, the last game was
what the fuck?
842
00:44:05,630 --> 00:44:07,310
All right.
So I get to see Garrett Schrader
843
00:44:07,310 --> 00:44:11,030
again.
I'd say overall he's an average
844
00:44:11,030 --> 00:44:13,030
thrower.
The football he's he's he's not
845
00:44:13,030 --> 00:44:16,470
going to wow you.
But he's also doesn't really
846
00:44:16,470 --> 00:44:20,350
have a ton of weaknesses either.
Not not the most accurate
847
00:44:20,350 --> 00:44:23,350
thrower, but he can get the ball
down, feel and and hurt you that
848
00:44:23,350 --> 00:44:26,930
way.
Throws best in the short
849
00:44:26,930 --> 00:44:31,130
intermediate game when you roll
the pocket, get him moving, get
850
00:44:31,130 --> 00:44:35,010
him where he can kind of throw
in in those open lanes to one
851
00:44:35,010 --> 00:44:37,370
side, that kind of one or two
read type.
852
00:44:37,370 --> 00:44:40,970
Look, he's patient when he runs
the football.
853
00:44:40,970 --> 00:44:42,450
I think that's the big thing
about him.
854
00:44:42,450 --> 00:44:45,650
Why he's able to sometimes break
those big plays is because he is
855
00:44:45,650 --> 00:44:47,170
patient when he breaks the
pocket.
856
00:44:47,170 --> 00:44:50,090
Even though it's a design
runner, even though he knows
857
00:44:50,090 --> 00:44:52,610
he's going to scramble right
away, he still lets the blocks
858
00:44:52,610 --> 00:44:56,210
kind of happen so he can kind of
get the most out of those those
859
00:44:56,210 --> 00:44:58,850
rushes.
And he has really good
860
00:44:58,850 --> 00:45:00,770
acceleration.
So he's got that ability to kind
861
00:45:00,770 --> 00:45:03,970
of bust a big play when he does
get to that second and third
862
00:45:03,970 --> 00:45:07,490
level, the defense.
All right, Sheldon, you had a
863
00:45:07,490 --> 00:45:11,450
couple of additional points on
him and the one thing I asked
864
00:45:11,450 --> 00:45:15,130
you to look up was how he
performs in their wins and how
865
00:45:15,130 --> 00:45:17,050
he performed in their losses so
far this year.
866
00:45:18,530 --> 00:45:20,290
Yeah, it's pretty stark
contrast.
867
00:45:20,290 --> 00:45:25,770
So PFF created about 52 in their
losses and it's around 80 in
868
00:45:25,770 --> 00:45:28,530
their wins.
So a few interesting notes on
869
00:45:28,530 --> 00:45:32,690
Schrader overall.
Pretty much middle of the road
870
00:45:32,690 --> 00:45:34,090
quarterback like Brian was
saying.
871
00:45:34,930 --> 00:45:37,570
Not a ton of stats that, you
know, stand out too much.
872
00:45:38,290 --> 00:45:41,490
Syracuse tends to throw pretty
deep, so average step The target
873
00:45:41,490 --> 00:45:43,650
ranks 26th among Power 5
quarterbacks.
874
00:45:44,070 --> 00:45:46,710
On the flip side though, he does
make a lot of turnover replays,
875
00:45:46,710 --> 00:45:49,110
so that's kind of, you know, the
side effect there.
876
00:45:49,550 --> 00:45:53,470
He has been sacked a lot and his
passer rating is 48, so kind of
877
00:45:53,470 --> 00:45:56,830
right next to Kyron drones.
Lots of deep throws in this
878
00:45:56,830 --> 00:45:59,230
offense, Not particularly
efficient throwing behind the
879
00:45:59,230 --> 00:46:01,270
line of the scrimmage, although
they don't do it a ton.
880
00:46:02,070 --> 00:46:04,190
The biggest thing I got out of
this, and this is what Brian
881
00:46:04,190 --> 00:46:07,150
alluded to, play action.
Syracuse is a completely
882
00:46:07,150 --> 00:46:08,550
different team with the run play
action.
883
00:46:08,790 --> 00:46:12,270
So when running play action they
complete about 80% of the
884
00:46:12,270 --> 00:46:14,260
passes.
When they're not running play
885
00:46:14,260 --> 00:46:16,180
action, they completed about
55%.
886
00:46:16,460 --> 00:46:19,260
So that plus 25 point
differential is the second
887
00:46:19,260 --> 00:46:22,020
biggest in the Power Five.
So that's one thing they got to
888
00:46:22,020 --> 00:46:25,740
be watching out for is the the
the PA throws.
889
00:46:26,380 --> 00:46:31,020
I would say you know overall he
does get pressured a lot and
890
00:46:31,020 --> 00:46:34,540
according to some of the PFL
numbers he has a he shares a
891
00:46:34,540 --> 00:46:37,460
high dream responsibility for
those pressures.
892
00:46:37,460 --> 00:46:39,300
So some of it's on the opposite
line.
893
00:46:39,790 --> 00:46:41,150
Some of it's on him, kind of a
bit of both.
894
00:46:41,350 --> 00:46:43,470
But you know he he, he scrambles
a lot.
895
00:46:43,470 --> 00:46:46,830
As I'll I'll cite a step in in
the coming second, so don't have
896
00:46:46,830 --> 00:46:49,150
to be aware of the run threat
with Schrader.
897
00:46:50,430 --> 00:46:52,390
Yeah, absolutely.
That is one thing.
898
00:46:52,390 --> 00:46:54,070
You do have to watch out for
him.
899
00:46:54,070 --> 00:46:57,190
We've seen it already one time
in the last few years.
900
00:46:57,190 --> 00:46:59,830
I don't want to flip next to
probably.
901
00:46:59,830 --> 00:47:03,310
In my opinion, just looking stat
wise, definitely their best run
902
00:47:03,310 --> 00:47:08,630
of the ball unless Lequint
Allen, 195 pounds, 6 foot.
903
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:14,720
From Millville NJ and Millville
High School and you know solid
904
00:47:14,720 --> 00:47:18,080
prospect coming out 85.
Had your pit offer, Rutgers
905
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,520
offers.
Had a UVA offer Well the top 25
906
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:22,640
player in the state of New
Jersey.
907
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:28,080
So a solid solid-state.
Solid ranking there and so far
908
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:32,720
this year and he is a red shirt.
Excuse me, a true sophomore
909
00:47:32,720 --> 00:47:37,560
because he did play last year
just under 5A game.
910
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,080
With seven touchdowns running
the ball.
911
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:42,920
Brian what else did the tape
say?
912
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,720
Yeah, I've been looking at at
him run the ball, he's he's
913
00:47:46,720 --> 00:47:48,680
pretty solid between the
tackles, but he's really more
914
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:52,120
dangerous when he can get on the
edge, use his speed to kind of
915
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:56,240
get some some extra yards there.
He also really likes to work
916
00:47:56,240 --> 00:47:59,160
those cutback lanes on those
read options.
917
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,480
You'll you'll see him bend it
back and that's when he can can
918
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,560
break off some of those bigger
runs as well.
919
00:48:05,430 --> 00:48:07,870
They will get him involved in
the passing game, you know
920
00:48:07,870 --> 00:48:09,510
mostly on swings and check
downs.
921
00:48:09,510 --> 00:48:11,470
They're not running a ton of
behind the line of scrimmage
922
00:48:11,470 --> 00:48:14,390
type stuff.
But he's she's he's proficient
923
00:48:14,390 --> 00:48:16,950
in that as well.
Catches good with his hands and
924
00:48:16,950 --> 00:48:21,790
can make people miss in space.
Shelton, what additional info
925
00:48:21,790 --> 00:48:26,150
you have on him for the night?
Right around 5 yards per carry.
926
00:48:26,670 --> 00:48:28,510
His explosive plays are pretty
solid.
927
00:48:28,510 --> 00:48:31,390
He's got 7 design carries, so 15
or more yards.
928
00:48:32,060 --> 00:48:35,060
Like Brian was saying, very
heavily targeted in the passing
929
00:48:35,060 --> 00:48:36,540
game.
One of the most heavily targeted
930
00:48:36,540 --> 00:48:40,220
running backs in all Power Five,
with 25 passing targets.
931
00:48:41,540 --> 00:48:47,660
Yep, 25 passing targets, 23
receptions in, 150 in 157 yards.
932
00:48:47,660 --> 00:48:50,700
So you know, it's good to see
Brian, as you broke down that
933
00:48:50,700 --> 00:48:56,420
tape there that it's not
necessarily route trees, it's
934
00:48:56,420 --> 00:48:59,190
checkdowns.
But that also it makes our
935
00:48:59,190 --> 00:49:01,790
linebacker room and our safeties
have to pay attention to him on
936
00:49:01,790 --> 00:49:03,870
those outsides when he goes out
for routes, even though they're
937
00:49:03,870 --> 00:49:07,590
not going to be complex as part
of the offense, you still have
938
00:49:07,590 --> 00:49:13,190
to respect him because a 92%,
you know catch percentage on 25
939
00:49:13,190 --> 00:49:15,670
targets, that's pretty damn good
for a running back in my.
940
00:49:15,990 --> 00:49:17,910
And occasionally those are you
know ones where it looks like
941
00:49:17,910 --> 00:49:19,830
he's staying in the block and
he's kind of leaking out.
942
00:49:19,830 --> 00:49:22,350
And yeah, that's one where you
look like you're about to get
943
00:49:22,350 --> 00:49:24,030
home, you look like you're about
to get a stop and all of a
944
00:49:24,030 --> 00:49:26,560
sudden he dumps it down to the
running back and you get give up
945
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,160
an 8 yard gain on, you know, 3rd
and 6th.
946
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:32,000
So that's the ones you got to be
careful of.
947
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:36,360
All righty, let's flip.
And who the Let's flip and talk
948
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,760
to who the ball may be thrown to
this week.
949
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,760
And that's going to be Umari
Hatch.
950
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:46,040
Now we're mentioning Hatch, but
I want to mention another name
951
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:49,120
real quick, and that is Aranda
Gatson.
952
00:49:50,410 --> 00:49:54,170
Rondo Gatson was going to be
probably their big playmaker
953
00:49:54,170 --> 00:50:00,250
this year.
He's like a six, five, £220, you
954
00:50:00,250 --> 00:50:04,050
know, a big player.
They lost him very early in the
955
00:50:04,050 --> 00:50:08,410
season, so know that they don't
probably have their best weapon
956
00:50:08,410 --> 00:50:10,290
out there and that's why we're
looking at Hatch.
957
00:50:10,770 --> 00:50:13,170
Of course, there's always got to
be a Virginia kid on these
958
00:50:13,170 --> 00:50:15,990
teams, right?
Amari Hatch, Freedom High School
959
00:50:15,990 --> 00:50:18,390
in Woodbridge.
He was a top 20 fair in the
960
00:50:18,390 --> 00:50:21,030
state of Virginia back in the
class of 2021.
961
00:50:21,030 --> 00:50:25,310
He was the 20th ranked player
and you know so far having a
962
00:50:25,310 --> 00:50:29,550
good season, 346 yards.
I don't have the reception
963
00:50:29,550 --> 00:50:31,950
numbers in front of me.
He is their leading guy.
964
00:50:32,310 --> 00:50:34,270
And Brian, what are you seeing
on the tape?
965
00:50:34,270 --> 00:50:39,950
What does he do for them?
Yeah, you know what he's doing
966
00:50:39,950 --> 00:50:41,790
most.
It usually lines up to the right
967
00:50:41,790 --> 00:50:44,660
hand side of the the the
formation, but he's their
968
00:50:44,660 --> 00:50:46,980
biggest deep threat that they
use on the on the team.
969
00:50:47,340 --> 00:50:50,140
He's targeted a lot down the
field.
970
00:50:50,740 --> 00:50:53,180
He's the guy that they want to
get involved when Schrader is
971
00:50:53,180 --> 00:50:55,940
throwing the ball deep down the
field for for this offense
972
00:50:56,460 --> 00:51:00,060
targeted mostly on goes fades,
they'll use him up the seam
973
00:51:00,060 --> 00:51:03,260
occasionally, but they will also
use use him on some crossers and
974
00:51:03,260 --> 00:51:05,940
digs as well to get that kind of
intermediate routes in there as
975
00:51:05,940 --> 00:51:08,540
well.
So I mean he's really their guy
976
00:51:08,540 --> 00:51:12,030
that's going to get that, those
big yards down the field.
977
00:51:12,030 --> 00:51:14,910
So he's the one that we got to
make sure is not a game breaker
978
00:51:15,150 --> 00:51:17,510
on Thursday all.
Right.
979
00:51:17,510 --> 00:51:20,710
Sean, you said you did have one
little note on Hatcher Mari,
980
00:51:20,710 --> 00:51:23,550
Hatcher Nadu, Mari Hatch.
My apologies there.
981
00:51:24,470 --> 00:51:27,950
Yeah.
Only note is that he is targeted
982
00:51:27,950 --> 00:51:31,470
on some a whole lot of depots,
so 13th and the power of five
983
00:51:31,470 --> 00:51:36,270
and adjusted or excuse me
average depth of target about 17
984
00:51:36,270 --> 00:51:40,300
yards per catch so.
You know he's he's he's going to
985
00:51:40,300 --> 00:51:42,500
be in a lot of deep balls.
Also you mentioned he's from
986
00:51:42,500 --> 00:51:44,820
Virginia.
It seems to me like there's been
987
00:51:44,820 --> 00:51:48,060
a lot of under the radar guys
from this state that have gone
988
00:51:48,060 --> 00:51:50,380
on to play for other you know,
low level power programs
989
00:51:50,380 --> 00:51:53,980
especially in the Northeast.
I know Rutgers had safety or
990
00:51:53,980 --> 00:51:56,740
running back from Virginia that
we played them a few weeks ago.
991
00:51:56,740 --> 00:52:00,700
I can't remember the name but
it's a it's a state that I think
992
00:52:00,700 --> 00:52:04,180
has is good at producing
underrated talent but the high
993
00:52:04,180 --> 00:52:06,220
rated talent leaves a little bit
to be desired.
994
00:52:06,220 --> 00:52:07,660
But that's a conversation for
another day.
995
00:52:08,890 --> 00:52:10,690
Yeah, we talked about a few
players from Pitt.
996
00:52:10,770 --> 00:52:13,490
I think we had two or three from
Wake last week.
997
00:52:13,850 --> 00:52:15,370
Like, no, it was like 5 for
Wake.
998
00:52:15,570 --> 00:52:18,290
It was not like two or three.
It was literally like but but
999
00:52:18,290 --> 00:52:21,650
they did get Devin Claiborne
who's a pretty highly rated guy,
1000
00:52:22,450 --> 00:52:24,970
he is on that team and he
obviously ran the kickback.
1001
00:52:24,970 --> 00:52:29,610
So, but again it's that is
another story that's February.
1002
00:52:29,610 --> 00:52:31,290
We'll write it down.
We'll circle the episode.
1003
00:52:31,290 --> 00:52:34,130
We'll get, we'll talk about kind
of the wrap of recruiting and
1004
00:52:34,130 --> 00:52:37,370
then do some breakdowns on that.
But there's still talent here
1005
00:52:37,450 --> 00:52:41,690
and yeah that's where again I
think that you know I'm I'm try
1006
00:52:41,690 --> 00:52:44,090
to keep it in because we got one
more piece on the offensive line
1007
00:52:44,090 --> 00:52:47,050
is offering somebody like a hat
who goes to freedom.
1008
00:52:47,250 --> 00:52:49,050
Freedom is a good fucking
football school.
1009
00:52:50,170 --> 00:52:53,690
Good football school, yeah.
And and let's talk about, you
1010
00:52:53,690 --> 00:52:58,650
know what what what is Pride
been having to rebuild in the
1011
00:52:58,650 --> 00:53:02,810
last year and a half or so that
wasn't that great under the
1012
00:53:02,810 --> 00:53:06,700
previous regime.
And we're at a time right now
1013
00:53:06,700 --> 00:53:09,700
where guys that were recruited
in that time frame when things
1014
00:53:09,700 --> 00:53:15,220
kind of fell off the map are
becoming solid either rotational
1015
00:53:15,220 --> 00:53:17,380
pieces or starters at these
other universities.
1016
00:53:17,380 --> 00:53:19,660
So that's why you see Pitt with
like two or three starters in
1017
00:53:19,660 --> 00:53:24,100
wake with five starters that are
key players on their team that
1018
00:53:24,100 --> 00:53:30,620
were kind of that mid to high 3
occasionally a low four player
1019
00:53:30,620 --> 00:53:33,740
that is now playing for another
ACC school.
1020
00:53:33,740 --> 00:53:37,890
So yeah we're we're we're still
kind of in the midst of
1021
00:53:37,890 --> 00:53:39,810
experiencing that.
I think we're probably got you
1022
00:53:39,810 --> 00:53:42,690
know one or two more years where
that's going to be a topic of
1023
00:53:42,690 --> 00:53:45,290
conversation throughout ACC
play.
1024
00:53:45,290 --> 00:53:46,770
I'm.
Going to say this before we hit
1025
00:53:46,770 --> 00:53:48,410
the offensive line, I think
that's always going to be a
1026
00:53:48,410 --> 00:53:51,330
conversation because as you
start filling out your rooms,
1027
00:53:51,330 --> 00:53:54,410
you're trying to find fits and
there's guys that may not get an
1028
00:53:54,410 --> 00:53:57,650
offer, they may not recruit as
hard because of this is not
1029
00:53:57,650 --> 00:53:59,490
quite what we need for this
position.
1030
00:53:59,490 --> 00:54:02,210
He's a good player but if he
comes here it's going to be a
1031
00:54:02,210 --> 00:54:05,400
tough hill to climb.
But now let's talk about the
1032
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:07,160
offensive line.
Shelton, while you were
1033
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:09,800
mentioning how bad their
offensive line was, I had to
1034
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:14,320
look it up and I found it.
They are 100th in the country at
1035
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:17,720
sacks allowed, nineteen over the
first seven games.
1036
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:21,120
Now where they do differ between
the other guys down there, they
1037
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,520
are under 100 sack yards per
game.
1038
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:26,720
So real quick, before Brian
breaks down the tape.
1039
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:30,640
Shelton, did you get a chance to
pull up their grades on the
1040
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,190
offensive line?
I did, yes.
1041
00:54:33,190 --> 00:54:35,550
And it's interesting, there
seems to be a discrepancy in
1042
00:54:35,550 --> 00:54:39,750
terms of the sack totals you
mentioned and their overall pass
1043
00:54:39,750 --> 00:54:42,150
blocking PFF grades.
So they're actually graded
1044
00:54:42,150 --> 00:54:44,990
pretty well in pass blocking
17th as a team.
1045
00:54:45,630 --> 00:54:48,630
They just don't really have a
ton of, you know, individual
1046
00:54:48,630 --> 00:54:51,350
standouts on that offensive
line.
1047
00:54:51,710 --> 00:54:54,110
Nobody graded in the Top 40 in
the ACC.
1048
00:54:54,110 --> 00:54:56,910
In terms of offensive lineman,
they're left tackle.
1049
00:54:56,910 --> 00:55:00,590
Enrique Cruz is the worst graded
run blocker in the ACC.
1050
00:55:01,540 --> 00:55:04,980
And their rushing yardage
numbers are OK overall, but
1051
00:55:04,980 --> 00:55:06,580
that's only because of
Schrader's running the building.
1052
00:55:06,580 --> 00:55:11,580
So Schrader's averaging about
6.3 yards per rushing attempt,
1053
00:55:11,980 --> 00:55:14,820
you take out the sacks, and he
also leads ACC in scramble
1054
00:55:14,820 --> 00:55:16,500
yards.
So kind of apropos of what I was
1055
00:55:16,500 --> 00:55:19,060
mentioning earlier, he scrambles
a lot.
1056
00:55:19,060 --> 00:55:21,500
He can get out of the pocket, so
even if the offensive line
1057
00:55:21,500 --> 00:55:24,220
doesn't give a ton of time to
throw, he can make place happen
1058
00:55:24,220 --> 00:55:27,310
with his feet.
So Brian, you watched the tape
1059
00:55:27,430 --> 00:55:30,790
and I know you Sheldon said the
grade doesn't reflect it, but
1060
00:55:30,790 --> 00:55:33,350
the stats numbers reflect it.
What are the tapes?
1061
00:55:33,390 --> 00:55:37,470
Reflect about their past, bro.
It's kind of a mixed bag.
1062
00:55:37,470 --> 00:55:41,430
I mean, they give up some sacks
that they probably shouldn't.
1063
00:55:41,870 --> 00:55:45,630
Occasionally Schrader hangs
around back there too much or
1064
00:55:46,230 --> 00:55:49,150
tries to escape the pocket too
soon and kind of gets himself in
1065
00:55:49,150 --> 00:55:50,790
trouble.
So there's a little bit of that
1066
00:55:50,790 --> 00:55:54,110
in there as well.
I mean, I'd call them probably
1067
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,760
very average in pass pro and
very average run blocking
1068
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:01,960
overall there.
There's not really standouts, as
1069
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:03,920
Shelton said.
Really across the board.
1070
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:10,960
It's just a fairly solid pass
pro and then a run game that
1071
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,400
when they can get going,
especially with Schrader, looks
1072
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,120
probably a little bit better
than than it really is in terms
1073
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:20,240
of the actual blocking.
All righty glad to hear some of
1074
00:56:20,240 --> 00:56:22,840
this stuff is correlating
between the numbers and the the
1075
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:24,680
actual.
Taking a look at the tape
1076
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:30,120
itself, you said the left tackle
is their worst run blocker.
1077
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,480
Who's their best graded?
Just one of those things to be
1078
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,200
paying attention to Thursday
night.
1079
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:38,440
Yeah, give me, I'll, I'll look
up in one quick SEC.
1080
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:41,760
I'll have it for you.
Yeah, because again, while we're
1081
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,680
doing this, because we hear
that, I'm sure Brian, your first
1082
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:47,040
thought is, well, if he sucks
that bad and he.
1083
00:56:47,730 --> 00:56:50,490
They're probably not going to be
running to the left much, so
1084
00:56:50,490 --> 00:56:52,530
probably they're not going to be
looking at outside zone.
1085
00:56:52,530 --> 00:56:55,410
There's probably, maybe an
inside zone to the left side.
1086
00:56:55,410 --> 00:56:57,770
It's probably going to be
elsewhere on the line.
1087
00:56:59,170 --> 00:57:02,370
Yeah, so their best graded run
blocker is Christopher Blake.
1088
00:57:02,450 --> 00:57:04,090
Apologies if I'm mispronouncing
that.
1089
00:57:04,490 --> 00:57:06,850
He is their left guard.
So he's played.
1090
00:57:07,450 --> 00:57:09,330
Yeah, he's played pretty much
the the whole season.
1091
00:57:09,970 --> 00:57:13,010
All right, so there you go.
Probably.
1092
00:57:13,690 --> 00:57:15,970
It'll be interesting to see
where they run the ball Saturday
1093
00:57:15,970 --> 00:57:18,070
night.
All right, let's flip over to
1094
00:57:18,070 --> 00:57:21,510
the defensive side of the ball
and let's talk about this
1095
00:57:21,510 --> 00:57:24,750
defense led by Rocky Long.
If you don't know the name Rocky
1096
00:57:24,750 --> 00:57:27,230
Long, then you probably really
haven't been paying attention to
1097
00:57:27,230 --> 00:57:28,750
college football the last 20
years.
1098
00:57:29,030 --> 00:57:33,070
Rocky Long, successful in New
Mexico back in the late 90s,
1099
00:57:33,070 --> 00:57:37,990
early 2000s, became San Diego
State's defensive coordinator in
1100
00:57:37,990 --> 00:57:41,390
2009 and coached there for right
out of decade, where you had
1101
00:57:41,390 --> 00:57:44,830
some significant success with
San Diego State.
1102
00:57:45,710 --> 00:57:49,030
Brian tell me some other stuff
about Rocky Long and the defense
1103
00:57:49,030 --> 00:57:51,310
he runs.
Yeah, I mean this is one of the
1104
00:57:51,310 --> 00:57:56,190
godfathers of the the 3-3 stack.
So along with his mentor Jolie
1105
00:57:56,190 --> 00:57:59,910
Dunn, think about those Memphis
teams back in the day.
1106
00:58:01,510 --> 00:58:05,590
This is, this is kind of one of
the originators of the 335.
1107
00:58:06,550 --> 00:58:09,990
But I will say looking at their
their, their alignment, they
1108
00:58:09,990 --> 00:58:13,070
will kind of switch up the front
to confuse the offensive line.
1109
00:58:14,020 --> 00:58:18,540
You'll occasionally see them go
with like a 245 look sometimes
1110
00:58:18,540 --> 00:58:21,100
in nickels sometimes just
because just to kind of confuse
1111
00:58:21,100 --> 00:58:25,980
things there and and and show a
different look like most 33
1112
00:58:25,980 --> 00:58:30,340
stacks very stunt blitz heavy.
So you expect that from the D
1113
00:58:30,340 --> 00:58:34,540
it's going to be a handful for
the offensive line to handle
1114
00:58:34,540 --> 00:58:36,860
some of that.
So hopefully that they are ready
1115
00:58:36,860 --> 00:58:39,140
and more prepared than we were
at the beginning of the season
1116
00:58:39,140 --> 00:58:43,070
for these type of fronts.
And yeah, I mean it's going to
1117
00:58:43,070 --> 00:58:45,350
be another one of those where
we've got to make sure that we
1118
00:58:45,350 --> 00:58:48,910
keep Kyron drones off off his
back as well because they again
1119
00:58:48,910 --> 00:58:50,630
will bring some pressure there
in the backfield.
1120
00:58:51,510 --> 00:58:53,870
All right, let's take a look at
a couple of the key players
1121
00:58:53,870 --> 00:58:57,070
there at Syracuse and let's
start with the Rover.
1122
00:58:57,070 --> 00:59:02,230
Justin Baron #8, defensive Back,
6 foot four, £230 from Suffolk
1123
00:59:02,230 --> 00:59:05,470
Academy in Rock Hill,
Connecticut Came out was an
1124
00:59:05,470 --> 00:59:08,670
84247 top 15 player in the state
of Connected.
1125
00:59:08,670 --> 00:59:10,790
A top 100 athlete when he came
out.
1126
00:59:11,630 --> 00:59:14,470
I think he was looked at as a
wide receiver and then moved
1127
00:59:14,550 --> 00:59:18,150
effectively, then inside
linebacker, then eventually
1128
00:59:18,150 --> 00:59:23,470
Rover and so far this year you
know tackle wise leading the
1129
00:59:23,470 --> 00:59:26,950
team 55 tackles, 5 tackles for
loss.
1130
00:59:27,190 --> 00:59:30,110
Where I really found it
interesting was 4 pass
1131
00:59:30,110 --> 00:59:31,830
deflections along with two force
fumbles.
1132
00:59:31,830 --> 00:59:34,190
So obviously that guy's around
the ball a lot.
1133
00:59:34,630 --> 00:59:37,310
Brian what's the tape telling
you about Justin Baron?
1134
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:40,560
Yeah, I mean he's a big asset in
their run support.
1135
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:43,120
He's the guy that's primarily
coming up from the stage
1136
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:47,920
position, making good plays,
good fits and and and and making
1137
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:52,440
a solid tackle in the run game.
Overall, really good with Fitz,
1138
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:56,240
really good in pursuit.
I'd say he's much better in zone
1139
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,200
coverage than he is a man.
He's kind of a little slow
1140
00:59:58,200 --> 00:59:59,960
changing directions in man
coverage.
1141
00:59:59,960 --> 01:00:02,120
So that may be a spot where we
can kind of take advantage.
1142
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:08,140
All righty, Shelton, any sort of
deeper metrics on Justin Baron,
1143
01:00:08,140 --> 01:00:12,180
the Rover for the Orangemen?
Yeah, overall, pretty good in
1144
01:00:12,180 --> 01:00:15,860
coverage, 62 passer rating when
targeted, which is pretty solid.
1145
01:00:16,820 --> 01:00:20,620
He does have a pretty shallow
depth of targets, so only about
1146
01:00:20,820 --> 01:00:24,140
four yards is his depth when
he's targeted in pass coverage.
1147
01:00:24,380 --> 01:00:26,780
Not surprising, because he
mostly plays in the box.
1148
01:00:27,260 --> 01:00:30,460
And as a result of that, he also
has eight run stops, which is a
1149
01:00:30,460 --> 01:00:33,260
stat that PFF tracks.
Basically a loss for the
1150
01:00:33,260 --> 01:00:36,660
offense, which is tied for third
and ACC at his position group.
1151
01:00:37,940 --> 01:00:40,580
Very nice to know.
So like you said, I think when I
1152
01:00:40,580 --> 01:00:42,620
hear that, I hear Brian talking
about mandate.
1153
01:00:42,620 --> 01:00:46,020
He's not going to be going with
guys like Wright or Gosnell up
1154
01:00:46,020 --> 01:00:48,380
the seam or on wheel routes.
He's going to be staying close
1155
01:00:48,380 --> 01:00:52,340
to home, which obviously could
stress potentially other parts
1156
01:00:52,380 --> 01:00:55,630
of that defense.
Now another guy playing down in
1157
01:00:55,630 --> 01:00:59,110
the box is Marlow Wax.
Let's talk a little bit about
1158
01:00:59,110 --> 01:01:03,430
Marlow.
Marlow, 6 foot £230 out of the
1159
01:01:03,430 --> 01:01:06,350
state of Maryland.
Kind of an underrated guy, an 83
1160
01:01:06,350 --> 01:01:09,670
three star when he came out in
the class of 2020.
1161
01:01:09,670 --> 01:01:12,070
Went to Mount Saint Joseph down
in Baltimore.
1162
01:01:12,910 --> 01:01:17,750
Came out initially as a running
back and other than Syracuse and
1163
01:01:17,750 --> 01:01:22,110
Pitt, did not have a lot of D1.
Excuse me, P5 looks.
1164
01:01:22,580 --> 01:01:27,980
Had some interest from Marshall
and and ECU.
1165
01:01:27,980 --> 01:01:31,540
Sorry about that.
But let's talk about this year.
1166
01:01:31,540 --> 01:01:36,020
Second on the lien, second on
the team in tackles at 53.
1167
01:01:36,260 --> 01:01:38,820
Does have a pick and 3/4
fumbles.
1168
01:01:40,100 --> 01:01:43,580
Brian, I say linebacker in A335
stack, we've already talked
1169
01:01:43,580 --> 01:01:45,780
about the Rover, so he's
definitely not playing that
1170
01:01:45,780 --> 01:01:49,220
position, which also some people
consider linebacker in A335
1171
01:01:49,220 --> 01:01:51,020
stack.
Where is he playing?
1172
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,160
Yeah, he's that Mike.
Some also call it a Jack.
1173
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:55,600
Just kind of depends on the
system.
1174
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,440
You know Mike, linebacker, a lot
of responsibilities with that
1175
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:02,760
position, heavy blitz usage from
all angles.
1176
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:04,960
They'll they'll move him around,
they'll shove him around.
1177
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:09,600
So he's coming off the edge.
He's coming up the middle, you
1178
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:13,280
know, A gap, B gap, C gap,
whatever, whatever, whatever gap
1179
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:16,560
the offense has, he's going to
be used in those for on the
1180
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:19,220
blitz game.
He's great in pursuit, really
1181
01:02:19,220 --> 01:02:21,540
good at shooting gaps and
occasionally getting some some
1182
01:02:21,540 --> 01:02:24,900
tackles for loss.
But I'd say the only thing that
1183
01:02:24,900 --> 01:02:27,700
I'd say we could maybe take
advantage of is that he can get
1184
01:02:27,700 --> 01:02:29,740
blocked.
When he's running downhill
1185
01:02:30,140 --> 01:02:33,220
against the run.
He's not very good at shedding,
1186
01:02:33,300 --> 01:02:37,420
shedding blockers and taking on
those bigger, bigger players
1187
01:02:37,420 --> 01:02:41,620
head on.
He he much would rather run at
1188
01:02:41,620 --> 01:02:44,710
an angle pursue.
Shoot a gap, something like
1189
01:02:44,710 --> 01:02:47,750
that, kind of to make that play.
So that might be where we can
1190
01:02:47,750 --> 01:02:51,110
take some advantage.
All right, Shelton, any sort of
1191
01:02:51,110 --> 01:02:55,670
deeper stats with Mr. Wax?
He is the highest grade
1192
01:02:55,670 --> 01:02:58,990
offensive or excuse me, highest
grade linebacker for Syracuse.
1193
01:02:59,590 --> 01:03:02,150
Really good tackler.
You're talking about the stop
1194
01:03:02,150 --> 01:03:04,590
stat.
He's got 32 stops on the season,
1195
01:03:04,870 --> 01:03:07,110
which is second in the entire
ACC.
1196
01:03:07,310 --> 01:03:09,310
So very, a very big run stuffing
guy.
1197
01:03:10,630 --> 01:03:13,900
All righty.
I, I, I find it interesting,
1198
01:03:13,900 --> 01:03:16,100
Brian, once you talk about
easily getting blocked when he
1199
01:03:16,100 --> 01:03:19,460
gets downhill against the run,
that'll be more interesting in
1200
01:03:19,460 --> 01:03:21,940
how they line him up.
Do they continue to move him
1201
01:03:21,940 --> 01:03:24,460
like they have all season?
Because especially if we get
1202
01:03:24,460 --> 01:03:28,420
some of our run game going, we
can engage him, could take out
1203
01:03:28,420 --> 01:03:31,540
one of their best tacklers.
All right, last piece, we're
1204
01:03:31,540 --> 01:03:33,220
going to go.
We're staying up front for the
1205
01:03:33,220 --> 01:03:35,580
last guy as well.
And I want to talk about Kevon
1206
01:03:35,580 --> 01:03:40,060
Darden and Kevon Darden go to
247, you won't find a page on
1207
01:03:40,060 --> 01:03:44,900
him.
He was a walk on who is now a
1208
01:03:44,900 --> 01:03:52,300
defensive tackle there.
He's only 511, about £275 and so
1209
01:03:52,300 --> 01:03:54,900
he's not that big of a guy when
you hear defensive line because
1210
01:03:54,900 --> 01:03:59,460
he does play defensive tackle
and so far this year you know he
1211
01:03:59,460 --> 01:04:04,260
does have 3 sacks, 14 total
tackles with a forced fumble.
1212
01:04:04,620 --> 01:04:07,300
What I don't like hearing is
every single guy at multiple
1213
01:04:07,300 --> 01:04:11,680
levels has a forced fumble.
Not a fan of that, Brian.
1214
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:15,080
Looking at the tape, I know you,
you, you kind of an interesting
1215
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:18,240
guy to to watch from a tape
perspective on all the things
1216
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:23,160
they do with him.
Yeah, you know, as you said,
1217
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:26,440
former walk on.
They play him at that shade
1218
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:27,920
nose.
Sometimes he's head up,
1219
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:29,600
sometimes he's in the shade,
but.
1220
01:04:30,950 --> 01:04:34,430
They'll also kind of line him up
in different spots whenever they
1221
01:04:34,430 --> 01:04:36,390
mix up those fronts.
So he'll be in a three
1222
01:04:36,390 --> 01:04:38,750
technique, he'll be in a four
eye, he'll be in a four
1223
01:04:38,750 --> 01:04:40,310
technique.
He just kind of really depends
1224
01:04:40,310 --> 01:04:43,790
on how they're attacking and how
they're mixing up their fronts.
1225
01:04:43,790 --> 01:04:49,950
But his size is interesting for
a nose, even in a in A33 stack
1226
01:04:49,950 --> 01:04:53,990
nose because he is a very small,
small player.
1227
01:04:53,990 --> 01:05:00,300
He's five 11275.
That's about 30 pounds and at
1228
01:05:00,300 --> 01:05:03,740
least a couple inches shorter
and and and and lighter than you
1229
01:05:03,740 --> 01:05:06,860
normally see a a nose at the
starting end.
1230
01:05:08,980 --> 01:05:11,500
You know that height probably
not as big of an issue as the
1231
01:05:11,500 --> 01:05:14,020
weight but he actually does a
pretty good job of eating
1232
01:05:14,020 --> 01:05:18,140
blockers Despite that size and
he he slants pretty quick.
1233
01:05:18,140 --> 01:05:22,500
So he's he's a guy that you know
for what he lacks in size makes
1234
01:05:22,500 --> 01:05:24,620
up with in quickness.
So you get some occasional
1235
01:05:24,620 --> 01:05:27,420
tackles for loss opportunities
in that regard.
1236
01:05:28,930 --> 01:05:35,730
Sheldon anything on him?
No, I just got one on Anwar
1237
01:05:35,730 --> 01:05:38,570
Sparrow, who's their their one
of their highest graded D
1238
01:05:38,570 --> 01:05:40,010
lineman.
So he was Go ahead.
1239
01:05:40,490 --> 01:05:42,210
Yeah.
So he was third in the ACC
1240
01:05:42,210 --> 01:05:45,250
overall, big on the the run
defense.
1241
01:05:46,970 --> 01:05:48,690
Yeah, let me I can look up the
numbers.
1242
01:05:48,690 --> 01:05:52,970
But basically he's their, he's
their top run stuffing guy.
1243
01:05:52,970 --> 01:05:54,650
Sparrow is on that, on that D
front.
1244
01:05:56,370 --> 01:05:58,770
All righty.
So we got Sparrow as their big
1245
01:05:58,770 --> 01:06:02,210
run stuff for defensive line.
You got Darden as a small
1246
01:06:02,210 --> 01:06:05,050
undersized defensive tackle that
they like to do a lot of things
1247
01:06:05,050 --> 01:06:07,290
with.
So it's going to be interesting
1248
01:06:07,290 --> 01:06:11,490
to see how we handle this.
And I'm going to flip it here
1249
01:06:11,490 --> 01:06:14,170
and we're going to go next to
the Hokie keys.
1250
01:06:16,130 --> 01:06:18,050
And I'm going to start with you,
Brian.
1251
01:06:18,130 --> 01:06:22,250
What do you think is your
biggest key for this game?
1252
01:06:24,300 --> 01:06:26,940
Biggest key for this game to me
is going to be the offense.
1253
01:06:26,940 --> 01:06:28,260
He's to stay ahead of the
sticks.
1254
01:06:28,260 --> 01:06:31,900
I think we, if we can get into
those second and manageable 3rd
1255
01:06:31,900 --> 01:06:36,460
and manageable situations,
control the time of possession
1256
01:06:36,460 --> 01:06:38,340
because that's what they're
going to try to do to us.
1257
01:06:38,340 --> 01:06:42,340
If we can control the time of
possession and make them have to
1258
01:06:43,500 --> 01:06:46,260
get away from what they feel
they do best, which is running
1259
01:06:46,260 --> 01:06:50,900
the football both with Schrader
and with their running backs.
1260
01:06:51,660 --> 01:06:54,420
If we can do that, I think that
puts us in a better, better spot
1261
01:06:54,420 --> 01:06:56,700
long term in that game.
So if we can stay ahead of the
1262
01:06:56,700 --> 01:06:59,460
sticks, that'll be a good, a
good way to control that time,
1263
01:06:59,460 --> 01:07:02,620
possession and and put them in
difficult situations with their
1264
01:07:02,620 --> 01:07:04,780
own offense.
All right, Sean, what about you?
1265
01:07:05,780 --> 01:07:08,220
Yeah, for me it's all about
contain, contain, contain.
1266
01:07:08,220 --> 01:07:10,540
They got to contain the
quarterback, Schrader.
1267
01:07:10,940 --> 01:07:13,980
I think when you look at this
offense overall, not to be
1268
01:07:13,980 --> 01:07:16,500
disparaging of any of their
players, but they're just really
1269
01:07:16,500 --> 01:07:18,900
aren't a ton of individual
individual standouts.
1270
01:07:19,500 --> 01:07:22,100
Outside of Schrader and really
their whole offense is just
1271
01:07:22,100 --> 01:07:24,660
predicated on him getting out in
space and making plays.
1272
01:07:24,660 --> 01:07:28,340
And so if you take away that
scramble game, that run game, I
1273
01:07:28,340 --> 01:07:30,580
mean they just, they don't have
a ton left and they've they've
1274
01:07:30,580 --> 01:07:32,780
struggled a lot on early downs
this season.
1275
01:07:32,780 --> 01:07:35,500
Like you know one of the worst
in the country on 1st and 2nd
1276
01:07:35,500 --> 01:07:37,940
down.
So you put them in, you put them
1277
01:07:37,940 --> 01:07:40,180
in 3rd long, it's not, it's not
going to go particularly well
1278
01:07:40,180 --> 01:07:41,740
for them, but you still got to
make sure that you contain the
1279
01:07:41,740 --> 01:07:44,300
quarterback.
So keeping keeping Schrader in
1280
01:07:44,300 --> 01:07:46,340
check is definitely the biggest
key for winning this ball game.
1281
01:07:47,020 --> 01:07:50,820
Yep I'm I'm with what you said
there and it's the it's the it's
1282
01:07:50,820 --> 01:07:55,140
attack responsibly because what
you just said even more Shelton
1283
01:07:55,860 --> 01:07:59,020
goes back to what my thought was
they're not good on 1st and 2nd
1284
01:07:59,020 --> 01:08:00,340
down.
If you can attack them get them
1285
01:08:00,340 --> 01:08:04,260
behind the sticks where they
can't just run him up the middle
1286
01:08:05,300 --> 01:08:07,340
it's going to put them in dire
situations.
1287
01:08:07,340 --> 01:08:12,260
And again, you're talking about
the 100th, the 100th rated, you
1288
01:08:12,260 --> 01:08:14,660
know, team sacks allowed
regardless what the grades say,
1289
01:08:14,740 --> 01:08:18,069
they give up those sacks and
then you get APR, who's number
1290
01:08:18,069 --> 01:08:20,350
six in the country.
The Hokies, I believe, are in
1291
01:08:20,350 --> 01:08:24,430
the Top 40 in the country in
sacks, in team sacks.
1292
01:08:25,430 --> 01:08:28,510
So there's that one piece
attack, but attack responsibly,
1293
01:08:28,510 --> 01:08:30,670
make sure you don't give him
running lanes.
1294
01:08:31,069 --> 01:08:35,189
So lot of integrity there.
I'm going to do one on offense
1295
01:08:35,189 --> 01:08:37,990
here since tally isn't take what
the defense gives you.
1296
01:08:38,229 --> 01:08:40,790
They're pretty balanced defense.
They do give up more passing
1297
01:08:40,790 --> 01:08:43,109
than they do rushing, but take
what they give you.
1298
01:08:43,310 --> 01:08:47,490
Wake Forest decided to load the
box and kind of drones sliced
1299
01:08:47,490 --> 01:08:50,609
and diced them all night.
So take whatever they give you.
1300
01:08:50,609 --> 01:08:53,290
If they want to try to play more
coverage, run the ball.
1301
01:08:53,689 --> 01:08:55,370
I think we can run against this
team.
1302
01:08:56,010 --> 01:08:59,729
So there that is.
Now before we get into our
1303
01:08:59,729 --> 01:09:02,729
prediction and then a quick note
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1314
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01:09:46,630 --> 01:09:49,189
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01:09:49,189 --> 01:09:52,029
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Yeah, we have dinner.
1318
01:09:52,149 --> 01:09:54,910
Sheldon was working.
Brian had things going on.
1319
01:09:55,310 --> 01:09:58,310
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01:09:58,310 --> 01:10:01,230
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1322
01:10:05,510 --> 01:10:08,790
Let's go ahead and make the
hokey predictions.
1323
01:10:08,790 --> 01:10:11,510
And I'm going to start off on
behalf of Jonathan Tally.
1324
01:10:12,550 --> 01:10:17,390
Got a text from him here 2717.
He is staying on the hokey
1325
01:10:17,390 --> 01:10:22,710
bandwagon and going 2717 Hokies.
Sheldon, what do you feel on
1326
01:10:22,710 --> 01:10:26,550
this game?
Yeah, I'm going to go Hokies by
1327
01:10:26,550 --> 01:10:31,110
four.
I think this is a game where my
1328
01:10:32,150 --> 01:10:35,630
how do I phrase this is my my
brain says Vt even though
1329
01:10:35,630 --> 01:10:37,590
there's part of my gut that says
it's going to be a let down
1330
01:10:37,590 --> 01:10:40,270
loss.
But I will say, you know, this
1331
01:10:40,270 --> 01:10:42,750
is probably the first game in a
while where I've been, you know,
1332
01:10:42,750 --> 01:10:44,990
genuinely pumped for it because
I think you've got a huge
1333
01:10:44,990 --> 01:10:47,150
opportunity.
You've got Syracuse coming on
1334
01:10:47,150 --> 01:10:49,230
Thursday night.
You win this game, you go to
1335
01:10:49,230 --> 01:10:51,550
three and one in the ACC, four
and four overall.
1336
01:10:51,870 --> 01:10:54,030
You're probably going to be
projected to make a ball game if
1337
01:10:54,030 --> 01:10:57,070
you win this game.
And I think it's going to get
1338
01:10:57,070 --> 01:10:59,710
the fan base entirely dock on
your side if you lose.
1339
01:10:59,870 --> 01:11:02,190
And I kind of like back to like,
Oh well, we're, you know, we
1340
01:11:02,190 --> 01:11:03,510
might go four and eight, five
and seven.
1341
01:11:03,980 --> 01:11:05,620
So I think there's a lot riding
on this game.
1342
01:11:05,620 --> 01:11:07,540
I mean I know it's a, you know,
it might seem like just a
1343
01:11:07,540 --> 01:11:10,420
matchup between 2 mediocre ACC
teams and maybe it is.
1344
01:11:10,700 --> 01:11:14,220
But this is a this is this could
be a huge confidence boosting
1345
01:11:14,220 --> 01:11:17,740
win for Vt.
So regardless this they they got
1346
01:11:17,740 --> 01:11:22,060
to win this game and so I got I
got Hokies by 4 Brian.
1347
01:11:23,220 --> 01:11:25,860
I've got the Hokies winning
2720.
1348
01:11:27,060 --> 01:11:30,900
I think this is going to be the
win that.
1349
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:35,840
If they're not already gets the
fan base fully bought into what
1350
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:41,360
Pride is doing and and what the
the team is doing and the steps
1351
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:44,640
that we're taking going forward
to build this program back up.
1352
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:49,200
I don't think that this is a
monumental win if it happens.
1353
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:53,400
But what it What it proves is
that you can go into a Thursday
1354
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:57,640
night game in prime time in your
home stadium and beat a team
1355
01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:01,190
that.
At least on paper is as good or
1356
01:12:01,190 --> 01:12:02,870
better than you are.
There you go.
1357
01:12:04,070 --> 01:12:08,710
And I think that's an important
hurdle to get over for this
1358
01:12:08,710 --> 01:12:11,790
staff and this team is going out
there and taking care of the
1359
01:12:11,790 --> 01:12:15,390
business consistently in those
type of matchups.
1360
01:12:16,390 --> 01:12:20,110
You know, we've seen Wake
Forest, we've seen Pitt.
1361
01:12:21,310 --> 01:12:26,130
Those teams are.
Probably in the bottom three or
1362
01:12:26,130 --> 01:12:29,290
four of the ACC, Syracuse is
more of a middle of the pack
1363
01:12:29,290 --> 01:12:31,410
team.
If we can show we can get a
1364
01:12:31,410 --> 01:12:34,850
victory against them, I think
that will boost the confidence
1365
01:12:34,850 --> 01:12:36,570
of the team.
Boost the confidence of the fan
1366
01:12:36,570 --> 01:12:39,290
base, Yeah, and I'm with you
all.
1367
01:12:39,290 --> 01:12:47,090
I do think the Hokies win this
game and I'm going to go 3021.
1368
01:12:47,570 --> 01:12:52,110
I think the Hokies win
comfortably and it's and it's
1369
01:12:52,110 --> 01:12:55,270
and it's I like what y'all said,
This is that game that can
1370
01:12:55,350 --> 01:13:00,030
springboard things for the fan
base especially.
1371
01:13:00,030 --> 01:13:03,190
It's like we saw the pit game.
It's like, oh, OK, we hadn't
1372
01:13:03,190 --> 01:13:06,710
beat pit like that in years.
We hadn't beat pit about
1373
01:13:06,790 --> 01:13:10,190
multiple scores in years.
You go to the FSU game, you show
1374
01:13:10,190 --> 01:13:15,030
three good quarters, a football
against one of the best teams in
1375
01:13:15,030 --> 01:13:18,710
the country, and then you have
another good game against weight
1376
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:21,200
where you do what you're
supposed to do against the
1377
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:25,320
lesser team and to y'all's
points.
1378
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:28,360
I think a lot of people are on
the side, regardless what
1379
01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:30,560
happens this year.
I mean, we're seven games in,
1380
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:32,720
we're already at three wins,
took eleven last year to get
1381
01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:35,560
there.
It also what we were talking
1382
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:38,040
about, the issues that we're
having, and I've said this a
1383
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:42,320
couple times, the issues we had
last year, it literally lasted
1384
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:46,280
from game four to game 11, where
there were issues starting with
1385
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:51,090
Game 2 that roughly by game five
things were starting to change,
1386
01:13:51,090 --> 01:13:53,490
right?
Some guys weren't seeing the
1387
01:13:53,490 --> 01:13:57,930
field play, Calling was changed.
And I think now it's this is a
1388
01:13:57,930 --> 01:14:00,770
real test for not only for the
whole staff, but for Brent
1389
01:14:00,770 --> 01:14:03,330
Prize, a head coach, because
you're feeling good after
1390
01:14:03,330 --> 01:14:07,130
weight, can you get everybody
grounded and say that means
1391
01:14:07,130 --> 01:14:09,410
nothing unless you don't go out
there and beat their asses
1392
01:14:09,410 --> 01:14:11,770
Thursday night?
It's going to be a packed house.
1393
01:14:11,850 --> 01:14:14,330
It's going to be 730, it's going
to be on ESPN.
1394
01:14:14,410 --> 01:14:16,690
We're going to have about 3 1/2
million eyes on us.
1395
01:14:17,110 --> 01:14:20,390
Go out there and do it.
Show that we are on the way to
1396
01:14:20,390 --> 01:14:23,390
being who we were.
Yeah, and this is that step
1397
01:14:23,390 --> 01:14:24,910
forward.
So Tally was talking about
1398
01:14:24,910 --> 01:14:30,750
before Wake how important Wake
was to keep a bowl on the on the
1399
01:14:30,790 --> 01:14:33,310
on the plate, right.
Wake kept the bowl on the plate.
1400
01:14:33,310 --> 01:14:37,430
This is where you start putting
yourself into that conversation
1401
01:14:37,910 --> 01:14:42,910
because it is a more middle of
the road ACC team because it is
1402
01:14:42,910 --> 01:14:46,030
on Thursday night and it's a
game that has a bunch of eyes on
1403
01:14:46,030 --> 01:14:48,460
it.
So this is where you take that
1404
01:14:48,460 --> 01:14:51,380
next step.
You know you had, you had to get
1405
01:14:51,380 --> 01:14:55,220
wake behind you to even get to
this point where this game
1406
01:14:55,220 --> 01:14:57,860
matters and this game has some
stakes attached to it.
1407
01:14:58,420 --> 01:15:00,420
Now you're here.
Go out there and handle the
1408
01:15:00,420 --> 01:15:01,460
business.
There you go.
1409
01:15:01,620 --> 01:15:04,980
Sheldon, anything else to add?
Yeah, I mean, it's like I was
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saying, it's just this is a game
where you feel like everyone's
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01:15:07,980 --> 01:15:10,580
coming in hype.
It's Thursday night, and I'm not
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01:15:10,580 --> 01:15:13,740
trying to be at Debbie Downer,
but this is one of those games
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01:15:13,740 --> 01:15:16,050
in Virginia Tech lore.
Where you look back on it and
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01:15:16,050 --> 01:15:19,490
say man what a what a classic
Virginia Tech game to lose.
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01:15:19,850 --> 01:15:23,930
So I just think it's AI, just
think it's a big game and like
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01:15:23,930 --> 01:15:26,090
you just got to win the ticket,
the fan base on your side.
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01:15:26,090 --> 01:15:29,530
Like if you go into the the
Louisville week four and four,
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01:15:29,770 --> 01:15:32,850
three and one, like I mean
you're feeling pretty good.
1419
01:15:32,850 --> 01:15:37,210
So it's just it's a big game.
Can I say this?
1420
01:15:37,250 --> 01:15:39,290
You talked about the classic
left down game.
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01:15:39,810 --> 01:15:42,410
Let this be the place where it
re goes the other way, where it
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01:15:42,410 --> 01:15:45,750
did for years, where Thursday
nights was you come and you're
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01:15:45,750 --> 01:15:47,590
in play on Thursday night.
You're not going to win.
1424
01:15:48,430 --> 01:15:49,590
You're not going to win this
game.
1425
01:15:50,310 --> 01:15:53,030
And on some of those Thursday
nights it was not only a win, it
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01:15:53,030 --> 01:15:57,070
was a damn beat down.
And can we peak that?
1427
01:15:57,070 --> 01:15:59,830
Can we get through this thing of
losing Thursday nights?
1428
01:15:59,830 --> 01:16:03,270
Can we start going back the
right way in what history tells
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01:16:03,270 --> 01:16:06,150
us the way it should be?
All right, anything breaking in
1430
01:16:06,150 --> 01:16:09,970
the last hour and 17?
Tally joined us live here.
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01:16:13,410 --> 01:16:16,650
Hey man, the the, the links in
in Twitter.
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01:16:16,650 --> 01:16:19,570
Jump on, links in Twitter.
Jump on.
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01:16:20,050 --> 01:16:22,370
He's driving.
I think we missed you tonight,
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01:16:22,370 --> 01:16:23,850
Tally.
We know you'll be back next
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01:16:23,850 --> 01:16:25,930
week, man.
Maybe Tally will jump on to a
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01:16:25,930 --> 01:16:27,330
space on Wednesday night or
something.
1437
01:16:27,330 --> 01:16:29,250
Who knows?
All right, well, that is going
1438
01:16:29,250 --> 01:16:32,650
to wrap up this episode of the
Boundary Corner podcast brought
1439
01:16:32,650 --> 01:16:34,730
to you by Main Street Pharmacy
in Blacksburg.
1440
01:16:35,090 --> 01:16:37,250
I'm Curtis Wilson.
I'm Brian Siegler.
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01:16:37,950 --> 01:16:41,230
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01:16:41,230 --> 01:16:46,990
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1443
01:16:47,430 --> 01:16:49,790
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1444
01:16:49,790 --> 01:16:52,990
That'd be a good one, right?
That was a long time ago.
1445
01:16:54,230 --> 01:16:57,230
I think he had only started like
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1446
01:16:57,230 --> 01:16:58,870
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45.
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