This week we welcome our friend and SI news desk writer Mike McDaniel to help us recap the disaster in Huntington as the Hokies fall to 1-3 on the season after a 24-17 loss to Marshall. We then turn our attention to Pitt as we get to Know the Enemy ahead of the primetime matchup with the Panthers. We close as always with our weekly Big Screeners picks segment.
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And welcome back to the Boundary
Corner Podcast along with my
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partners Brian Siegel and
Jonathan Talley, and our special
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guest, The Hardest Working Man
in Hokey podcast land, Mike
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McDaniel from The Hokey
Hangover.
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I am Curtis Wilson.
This episode is brought to you
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by Doctor Jeremy Counts at the
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Mike.
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Hey, buddy.
What's up?
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What's going on?
I thought.
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I thought if I came on this
podcast this week, we might have
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a chance to actually win a game.
You know, I I've been recapping
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all these games on my podcast.
And nothing good has happened
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yet.
So I was thinking, if I went on
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another Virginia Tech podcast,
maybe something good would
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happen this week.
Let's mix it up, let's let's do
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things a little different, see
if we can get a different
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outcome because if we're being
honest, I mean it is not look
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good the last three weeks.
No, not at all.
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It's not look good.
It's not look good at all.
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Good evening, Lavar.
Always good to hear from you,
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man.
Down in the 75.
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It hasn't boys.
It has been a rough last three
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weeks.
Hokie sit at 1:00 and 3:00 after
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the 24 to 17 lost to Marshall
the first time they have beat
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the Hokies in 83 years.
That's right, 83 years.
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Right down.
Big Yikes.
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And before we get into all that,
got a couple things.
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Obviously we always are pumping
it rally for Robbie this year to
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support testicular answer.
Not sure what lot it's going to
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be in yet trying to get with
Grayson on that.
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Look at that.
Once we know we will tweet it
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out, go visit get yourself one
and it will be always at the
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pharmacy 7 dollars, then they'll
only they do accept them only
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cash there.
Before I get into the game,
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there's two things we got to
talk about.
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First of all let's talk about
Pop Watson.
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He was suspended indefinitely.
He has since been reinstated and
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has also been.
This is what happens when we
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record before the the Tuesday
presser man.
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Like we we don't get to actually
talk about the news when it
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happened, and now it's like it's
already over.
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Yeah, surprise, we glad.
We glad that's over.
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Definitely glad it's over.
But I mean like, you know, we
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had, we had talked about it
elsewhere off camera here like.
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Indefinitely definitely got
taken with and ran.
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But I mean that's if it's only
one week, that's when you know
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just say it's one week or say
it's pop.
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Needs to take some steps before
he's back with the team.
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Don't say indefinitely and
definitely makes people think
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he's out till November.
And then don't don't forget,
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somebody comes up and says,
well, the last person that was.
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Suspended and definitely killed
a man.
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I'm like, Jesus Christ, we
can't.
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We can't win, man.
We can't win on Twitter.
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We can't win on the field.
We fucked up all around.
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Thank you, Virginia Tech.
Twitter.
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You keep my started.
And and it's and it's started
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with Fry winning every press
conference and winning over
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everybody and now it's like
every little thing gets
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deadpicked when you only win
four out of your first 15 games.
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So.
That's what happens.
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Oh yeah, Oh yeah, everything
will be nitpicked.
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Can't even tweet the one and no
graphic anymore because that's
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going to get trolled all the
hell.
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Oh yeah, they killing it.
I've seen one of the coaches say
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something about God or or or or.
Thank you, Jesus.
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I saw that.
And somebody.
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You gonna have to Was it winner,
Marv it?
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Was one of the two.
I'll go man.
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I'm smart.
Marv is smart for sure.
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It's Mark.
I had them messed up.
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Y'all it was Mark.
Messed up.
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Hey man, some of y'all out
there.
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Ruthless man they are.
Ruthless they are.
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Ruthless for them.
It's a passionate fan base, man,
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but that's why we show up in
65,000 in the seats for a one in
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three team coming off a three
win season.
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It came sold out.
Super interesting to see it sold
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out beforehand.
It'll be interesting to see
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second anyway.
You see network.
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How many people are actually
there?
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I'm not going, Mike, you going
this week?
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He lagging a little bit.
I think we lagging Tally, you
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ain't going obviously.
See you.
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Ain't going, are you?
I'm not going.
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All right, We'll let him.
We'll let Mike get sorted out
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here.
He is lagging there, but let's
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talk about the other thing.
It broke today.
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I think this had been in the
works for quite a while where
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the Hokies are moving their home
game headquarters from the Hotel
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Roanoke to Blacksburg at the Inn
in Blacksburg.
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This was a David Teal article.
It is going to cost the
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department about 100 + K more a
year.
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But I mean, if you've got
something that can accommodate,
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there we go.
He came back.
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He left again, left again.
Well, that might figure it out
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here.
But if you have the amenities in
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Blacksburg to keep the team 5
minutes from the field, please
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do that.
It's it's almost an hour ride
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with a bus up 81 to.
We've had enough travel issues
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so far this year that we don't
need to continue adding to that,
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to that run, right.
So we don't, you know, you got a
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late, late plane.
I mean, let's let's keep it
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simple.
When there's something else that
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happened in the travel that
threw things off, I can't
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remember what it was.
Some of the Rutgers, the plane,
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they went there, they went back
and all that stuff.
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To my knowledge, nothing else
travel wise happened.
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They did mention at one point
this year like there had been
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some issues coming up 81 that
had delayed them, which makes
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sense because they're roughly
leaving there what, 4 hours
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before the game?
How much of the traffic from the
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75, the 804 and Nova's coming in
at that point in time, getting
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into it 3 hours beforehand?
Of course there's going to be
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traffic delays, right?
And right now we've lost Mike,
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so we're going to try to get him
back in here he.
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Said his computer crashed.
He's getting back up.
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We're good.
We will get him.
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But do y'all like that.
I mean, y'all y'all both played,
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you know, collegiate ball and
stuff.
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You know, how far did y'all stay
from your home stadium tally?
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Well, I mean, it was.
I can see good and bad, I guess
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in in in why you do that?
Because sometimes you want to
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be, you know, away just to have
your team just not really run
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into people, just focus on the
game, you know what I'm saying?
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But of course, we're dinosaurs
now.
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So you got social media, they
got their phones, they're going
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then.
They're not just going to be
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with the team anyway and mostly
everybody knows where they stay,
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so you're going to run in the
fans there as well, so.
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I mean, I feel like why wasted
like you said, why it caused
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more problems going and taking
off when you can just be right
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around the corner or not.
Yeah, I would.
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When I played, he used to stay
in the Wyanoke Hotel for game
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nights, sometimes for the home
games.
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Big home games.
We actually didn't.
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We didn't do it for every home
game.
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Curtis knows that because Curtis
knows I would occasionally DB
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for that motherfucker on on
Friday nights if I didn't have
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to go to the hotel.
Yes, he did, because he couldn't
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sleep too.
Amped up, yeah, I mean, night
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before a game, if I got to sleep
before two or three, if I was
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doing something good, even even
on road trips in a hotel like it
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could, just I just got amped up
and.
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That was kind of my routine.
So I was like, if I'm awake, I
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might as well do something
productive with my night.
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What do you think about it,
Mike?
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I mean, did you read the TL
article or see it or hear about
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it, the moving from the hotel,
rolling out back to the Inn at
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Blacksburg and what are your
thoughts on it?
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Yeah, I read it.
No, I'm here.
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I'm here.
I'm here.
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Don't worry, I'm here.
No, I read it.
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I read it.
I my thoughts.
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My thoughts on it are, look, it
makes a lot of sense, right?
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I think this is one of those
things where, you know when your
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program is struggling, you're
looking for a layup literally
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anywhere, right?
And I think this is one of those
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things where, you know, David
Teal writes his story and you
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know the staff is looking for
anything good in a moment where
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the team's really struggling,
things are going really poorly.
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And I think when you pen this
story.
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And you, you put it out there.
Any positive press right now for
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this football program is good
press.
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And being like okay, there's a
reason why we're doing this.
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It's, you know, something that
will bring the recruits, you
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know, around the team, have them
be, you know, part of the
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weekend, have it be a little bit
easier to the Virginia Tech.
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In that way they're right there
on campus all weekend.
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I think it makes a lot of sense
and I don't know why they
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weren't doing that before, to be
honest with you.
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It seems like this was something
that started back in the Beamer
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area.
Again, Gladys, there also you,
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if you read the article, Mike,
you saw too.
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It was one of those things with
recruits on campus Friday
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nights.
Now the coaches, like literally
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can just go meet with them.
They can set up visits and all
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that.
The other big part, and this is
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wild, you spent how much money
on the Beamer Barn.
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You weren't using it for
walkthroughs on game days.
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Now they're going to use it as
their walkthrough on game days
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versus one of the conference
rooms in a Hotel Roanoke.
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So it makes perfect sense and
all that.
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All right, all right, well,
let's just get to it.
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Y'all because we can't hide it.
We got a lot of people.
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Yeah, right.
Tell us, Dwight.
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We got to tell the truth
Tuesday.
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And we've got a lot of stuff,
too.
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We got a lot of.
Stuff going forward.
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Mikey, welcome on board.
Mike.
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They all love you here but we
got to tell the truth Tuesday.
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Mike, what we do here is we talk
about what went well what went
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bad, did anything happen we were
not prepared for and what can we
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do better moving forward.
This is a philosophy taken told
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to us by our buddy Robbie
company.
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He's a coach down in North
Carolina and he they developed
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this from Pete Carroll.
So.
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So you know where it's coming
from, but let's talk about the
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first one.
And this isn't a long list
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today, it's the shortest of the
year so far.
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But what went well?
What went well?
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Anybody want to talk about
anything?
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For two quarters we run the ball
pretty damn well.
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We did best run we had all year.
Yeah, I mean, we had.
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Runs.
We had runs.
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Yeah.
How many yards did?
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Two.
And average was it?
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Was it like 6-2 was at 9.82
almost averaged A10 spot?
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They should have gave him the
ball like he was Jamal Anderson
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back with the Falcons.
They should have gave him the
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ball 35 times.
And I would have told drones you
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are running back until you throw
for over 300 yards.
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When you drop back, just fucking
run.
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They ain't stopping us from
running, so why are we stopping
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running?
Going with the other Evans one
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reading go let.
Me slow back down.
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We talked about what went well.
I think somebody put the quick
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start.
A quick start was good.
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You know, again, let me let me
put this in slam out there right
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quick.
I did not watch the game
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Saturday.
My son had a baseball tournament
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that I was at, so we were in
Coleman, Alabama, which has no
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service.
At all.
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It don't sound like it had
service.
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No, it had no service at all.
So I mean, like I was getting
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updates on the way home.
Marshall just scored again.
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And when I say on the way home
at 8:00 at night, I'm getting
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updates then.
But I did not watch the, you
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know, reading Twitter and
talking to the guys, I knew what
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happened, but I didn't watch the
game until.
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Earlier today, I didn't plan to
watch it, but I knew we had to
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do a show.
I was like, yeah, I probably
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better watch it.
So I watched it earlier today.
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So that's just a disclaim I
wanted to put out for everybody.
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But the quick start was, I
guess, you know, hit or or
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getting the text from Curtis and
saying, hey, look at that, we
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scored y'all realized that we
hadn't scored a touchdown all
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year in the first quarter.
The only points that we had got.
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In the first quarter, I think
was the safety against Old
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Dominion.
It's not good, man.
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It's not freaking good.
But we all, we all.
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They gave us that.
It wasn't like we really earned
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it.
They just snapped the ball into
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the next damn city.
They gave us back 1 from 20. 20
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Yeah they you know we stepped we
stepped the ball into you know
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Williamsburg from from Norfolk
and we and they snapped 1 to
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rolling.
Blacksburg to Roanoke.
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So that's right, Mike.
What else?
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We hit a couple spots here.
There ain't many bright spots.
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What else went well in your
opinion?
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So this is for for 25 carries.
For Rasheena Lee.
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The rushing defense actually
played really well for 25
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carries.
Just want to emphasize.
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Disclaimer.
Disclaimer.
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He had more.
He had a couple more than 25.
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He had 27.
He had 27 for 174 and two
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touchdowns.
He also had 25 carries.
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He had 25 carries for 57 yards.
He had two carries for 117
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yards, 2 touchdowns.
So for 25 carries, the Russian
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defense was very, very good.
Which, I mean, it seems
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ridiculous to even bring this up
given, you know, those were two
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of the biggest plays of the game
right for Marshall's offense.
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But that was, in my opinion, it
was a step in the right
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direction for much of the game
against the run now.
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Of course, you look at the two
touchdown runs and what was the
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issue?
It was it was the run fits
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again, right?
And it's just, it keeps the
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rearing its ugly head.
But I was actually encouraged by
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the rushing defense for a good
portion of the game, even
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though, you know, it was the two
carries end up, you know,
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constant tech and it really just
led to the outcome.
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Yeah.
And and Mike, we were talking
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about it just before that.
You take those two runs out,
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they averaged 2.1 a carry.
Yeah, on the other 42 carries
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they had, they pounded the shit
out of the ball 2.1.
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Wouldn't you, though, Like, oh,
I would too.
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I mean, even if we're showing,
even if we're showing a
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propensity to stop the run
consistently, we're also showing
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that we will give up explosive
plays in the run game.
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So if you keep running the ball,
you're eventually going to hit
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something.
You're going to hit one.
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Now there's one other actually
bright spot.
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We forced 2 turnovers.
We forced 2 turnovers.
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We had two picks Saturday.
We didn't do anything with them,
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but it's still the whole.
One of those was part of the
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fast start.
So one of those worst part of
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the fast start.
But again, we have two picks and
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we are, I mean, what are we up
to five now?
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Turnovers.
I think we were at 7 total last
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year, yeah.
Something like that, Not many.
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Where's John?
We're on a better, we're on a
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better pace right now.
But yeah, you know we're going
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to talk about a little bit.
That's the part of the problem I
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have is that we're we're seeing.
Steps up in some areas and steps
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down in others.
And we we can't ever get those
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steps up to sync with the with
with not taking a step back.
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So it's true, all right.
Y'all Got anything else on what
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went well?
That's it.
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That's it.
Because that's it.
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We got a lot here.
We got a lot here for what went
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bad.
And I'm going to start this one
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out because this one is the one
that I think could have really
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changed it.
The what went bad.
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I think coach prize
hyperaggressive go forward on
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4th down up 7.
We're already got the lead.
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It's I think it's 4th and 3 1/2
from the 36.
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Brian you did the math. 47 yard
field goal.
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Kick it, kick it, You go up.
I think it was the 3032, it was
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32, but you when I texted you,
you said 47 yard field goal.
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We've seen John Love.
He's got the leg to get there.
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Take it.
You get them down 10.
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Nothing to Bonds point just a
few minutes ago.
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Now they might not be able to
just continue to pound the ball
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because okay, we're down.
We're down to scores.
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Now if if they stop us and we
get 2.12.12.1 we got a punt and
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we could be losing grass to this
game.
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Go ahead.
It's just football. one-on-one,
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too.
It's like most people know, when
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you get a turnover, what's the
first thing you want to do?
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You want to, you want to try to
go down the field, you want to
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try to take a shot right after a
turnover.
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You get the ball in plus
territory and you're only able
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to move it.
You know what?
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20 yards, I think 19 yards,
something like that.
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If that much.
Like why go for it on that 4th
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down when we can at least give
ourselves a chance, You know
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what I'm saying?
Like we just we weren't moving
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the ball very well, so there's
no reason to.
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Try to go for it there in my No,
no, no, no, no, Kelly, this was
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right after the scoring drive.
This was right after scoring Dr.
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We had just went six.
Plays and 74 yards.
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But I'm saying, I'm saying on
that drive, once we got the
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turnover, we weren't moving the
ball well enough to like have
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the confidence of my opinion
that just well we're going to
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throw it.
You know, because I think on
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that, on that 4th to Aaron play,
we threw it right, Like he
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threw.
A deep Yeah, he's coming right
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here.
Yeah, it's like, why go for that
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if you.
I mean, it's just the wrong call
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all around to me.
I would have rather kicked it
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there and go up to you because
off of a turnover, if you got
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the opportunity to get points,
let's get points.
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But if you're going to go for it
in that situation, I feel like
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go for it.
Go for what's been working.
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You know, if we've been gashing
them with the run and the
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quarterbacks legs have been
killing them, why not do that?
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Gentlemen, we know there's
nothing there.
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There's not a shortage of short
pass calls in the Tyler Bowen
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playbook.
We don't need to be throwing it
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30 yards down the field.
And he had three men on.
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I'm like, yeah, why throw it to
him?
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And some people say, well, when
Drone, if Drone starts, you got
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to give him the same energy.
Drones definitely gets the same
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energy.
Anybody who sets back there at
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quarterback is going to get the
same energy.
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You can't make that throw.
I don't care what kind of
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pressure you got, if you got the
legs that he has, you got to.
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You got to take off the run.
You have to.
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I get it.
But go ahead, Mike.
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No, I was just gonna.
I hated.
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I hated the play call.
I didn't hate the decision to go
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for it.
I was actually okay with that.
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I mean the 47 yard like if this
is inside 40 yards, right With
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Love I feel better about it.
I get love has the leg but from
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an accuracy standpoint, 47 yard
field goal, you miss it.
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You're giving a bunch of field
field position anyway, right?
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I'm of the opinion that.
You know, it's Brian's point on
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the short passing game.
I mean, Bowen calls short passes
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all game long and then we
decided to air it out deep down
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the sideline on 4th and three.
I hated the play call.
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I mean, it was the wrong read by
Drones 2, I think, right?
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I mean throwing it downfield, it
really well covered.
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I mean that had no shot of
getting completed.
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So I I just hated the play call.
But the decision to go for it, I
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was actually okay with.
I appreciate the aggressiveness
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because you know right out the
gate you go down and score,
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right?
And then you get in your
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reception.
And now for the first time all
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season really it feels like you
have some positive momentum like
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with a lead, right, Because
we've seen some positive
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momentum like coming back,
right.
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Purdue, you're down 17, Old
Dominion, you're kind of
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screwing around.
They have a good, you know, a
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good third quarter start to pull
away.
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But we, we haven't really seen
tech play from the lead much
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this year.
And so I was okay with the
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aggressive decision to go for
it.
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I just really hated the play
call.
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Mike said he was okay let pride
let his nuts hang a little bit
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on in that scenario.
Just.
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Be a.
Little bit of strategic with
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what you do with.
He wasn't okay with Bowen trying
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to let his nuts hang out going
for a touchdown and a triple
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coverage.
All right, the other one I got,
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and these are mine personally
because I wrote these out three
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and outs.
You know how many we had against
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Rutgers?
Mike maybe 3 and outs we had
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against Rutgers, we had zero. 0.
We had four versus Marshall and
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they came at the most
inopportune times and the worst
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times all game and it's that's
where it frustrates you because
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and I and I, I shouldn't say 3
and outs because you know 3 and
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outs 4 and outs because money
downs.
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We were three for 16.
We were dreadful after having a
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good game against Rutgers and
it's like, Brian, would you just
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say?
We took the steps up in the run
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game.
We look more competent moving
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the ball.
What do we do on the money
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downs?
What do we do on the three and
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outs?
Thanks.
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OK, right back down.
It's the old one step up, two
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steps back in every scenario and
and and and that and that really
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screwed because the way we were
moving the ball if we could have
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converted three more third
downs.
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I say 3 or 4, three to four more
third downs, not a great number,
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still still under 50%, but the
way we moved the ball numerous
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times against them that that
probably took one score off the
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board.
And if you're not so awful on
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3rd down in that second quarter,
you probably don't get quite
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that many points scored on you
in that quarter.
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And that was the quarter that
really flipped the game and put
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us behind the 8 ball pretty much
the rest of the way out.
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Yep, because it was fumble 3 and
out, three and out.
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And they went field goal or they
scored a touchdown, then they
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scored a field goal and we
didn't do anything to answer
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either one of those going to
have.
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So yeah, but what else?
What else do y'all have up here?
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We have a bunch of stuff written
out here.
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Who wants to tackle the next
one?
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I'll go go for one thing.
Offensive line pass pro was
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atrocious.
And we thought it was doing
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good, like the run the run stuff
was bad at first.
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Now the the pass Pro is
horrible.
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I think we we finally hit a team
that can rush the passer pretty
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well too and the guy that we
were concerned in this in this
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situation got absolutely worked
a bunch of key times gave up a
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sack bunch of like about five or
six.
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I think hurries surrendered.
I mean, it was, it was a bad
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night for for our right tackle.
And Mike, I'll let you go.
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I know you're about to say
something that I was, I was just
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gonna say it's almost like Tyler
Bowen should just roll the
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quarterback out like he was
doing against Rutgers.
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Why are we now having Kyron
drones be a dropback passer?
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I don't want to dive in this too
deep, cuz I'm gonna go on a
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little bit of a rant later on
this podcast about this.
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But why?
Why are we all of a sudden we're
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we're rolling him out against
Rutgers, getting him real
448
00:24:23,380 --> 00:24:25,620
comfortable, right?
Having him kind of feel the game
449
00:24:25,620 --> 00:24:28,610
out a little bit as a passer.
And then against Marshall we're
450
00:24:28,650 --> 00:24:30,810
we're just turning them into
like Peyton Manning like drop
451
00:24:30,810 --> 00:24:32,930
back like three or five step
drops.
452
00:24:32,970 --> 00:24:34,770
What are we doing with the
passing game?
453
00:24:35,010 --> 00:24:35,810
I.
Don't understand it.
454
00:24:35,970 --> 00:24:37,330
You want to know why we're doing
that?
455
00:24:38,770 --> 00:24:41,770
Inexperienced.
We have a inexperienced
456
00:24:41,970 --> 00:24:46,130
offensive coordinator that is
picking fucking Madden plays and
457
00:24:46,130 --> 00:24:47,810
hoping that you're going to
score on them.
458
00:24:48,610 --> 00:24:50,810
Inexperienced.
Prior.
459
00:24:50,810 --> 00:24:53,610
You need to go get some
experience in the coaching staff
460
00:24:53,970 --> 00:24:57,010
at those coordinator positions.
That's what the problem is.
461
00:24:57,570 --> 00:25:01,970
I was disappointed that that is.
So two things happened that kind
462
00:25:01,970 --> 00:25:06,810
of switched up the way this kind
of play calling went, right?
463
00:25:06,810 --> 00:25:10,330
So Bowen comes out the game,
he's calling run plays.
464
00:25:10,650 --> 00:25:14,410
He got Kyron drones going on a
quarterback power that he broke
465
00:25:14,410 --> 00:25:16,290
a tackling and went up for a
touchdown.
466
00:25:17,370 --> 00:25:20,690
Good opening scheme, right?
So the the, the play call sheet,
467
00:25:20,690 --> 00:25:23,250
he's like, I've scripted this,
it's good to go.
468
00:25:23,650 --> 00:25:26,140
And then?
The second drive you have two
469
00:25:26,140 --> 00:25:28,420
and put it on the ground.
We get we get it get back on it
470
00:25:28,420 --> 00:25:30,700
though we end up getting a field
goal range end up going forward
471
00:25:30,700 --> 00:25:34,300
on forth, down.
Then the drones fumble happens
472
00:25:34,340 --> 00:25:37,340
and it's like every every time
something bad happened on
473
00:25:37,340 --> 00:25:40,220
offense that butthole was
getting a little bit tighter and
474
00:25:40,220 --> 00:25:44,300
after that drones fumble it's
like all right Kyron you gonna
475
00:25:44,300 --> 00:25:46,620
be you gonna be thrown from the
pocket for for the next two
476
00:25:46,620 --> 00:25:47,860
quarters and you're gonna like
it.
477
00:25:48,620 --> 00:25:51,540
We're gonna have maybe 2 design
runs in the next two quarters
478
00:25:51,540 --> 00:25:52,620
for you and you're gonna like
it.
479
00:25:53,010 --> 00:25:55,530
That would be great if you have
people that was blocking.
480
00:25:55,970 --> 00:26:01,690
He was under duress every time,
the whole game, and the only way
481
00:26:01,770 --> 00:26:04,690
that you could beat that pass
rush was to roll the
482
00:26:04,690 --> 00:26:07,970
quarterback.
And if you've been coaching as
483
00:26:07,970 --> 00:26:10,530
long as some of these coaches
have been coaching, I don't
484
00:26:10,530 --> 00:26:14,170
understand why you don't see
this, which I'll get into what
485
00:26:14,570 --> 00:26:16,570
when we talk about some of our
stuff later on.
486
00:26:17,530 --> 00:26:21,970
Yeah, can we shout out Owen
Porter for absolutely working?
487
00:26:22,550 --> 00:26:24,590
Our tackles, but particularly
our right tackle.
488
00:26:25,590 --> 00:26:27,470
Listen, I'm on.
Let me let me say something
489
00:26:27,470 --> 00:26:31,150
right quick, #70, #70.
I don't want to call your name
490
00:26:31,150 --> 00:26:34,430
because I've done it too much
and I think you're a great kid
491
00:26:34,430 --> 00:26:36,870
and you're probably going to
make a great husband and you're
492
00:26:36,870 --> 00:26:39,950
a great son.
You are not a very good tackle
493
00:26:39,950 --> 00:26:42,070
at this point.
I'm going to tell you like I
494
00:26:42,070 --> 00:26:44,790
tell my own son that thirteen
years old, that plays football.
495
00:26:45,070 --> 00:26:48,270
He's not a football player, he's
a baseball player, told him last
496
00:26:48,270 --> 00:26:50,070
night.
They got beat 40 to 6.
497
00:26:50,510 --> 00:26:52,630
By a team that they shouldn't
have got beat 40 to 6.
498
00:26:52,630 --> 00:26:55,750
I say it Enjoy this next game
that you play because it's
499
00:26:55,750 --> 00:26:57,230
probably going to be your last
football game.
500
00:26:57,470 --> 00:26:59,470
You ain't playing no more.
That's it.
501
00:27:00,750 --> 00:27:04,350
We ain't time on football.
We're going to go do something
502
00:27:04,350 --> 00:27:07,750
this productive.
I'm gonna say to me, if you're a
503
00:27:07,750 --> 00:27:10,590
good Fisher, go buy you some
reels and rods, man.
504
00:27:11,990 --> 00:27:14,990
Go catch something as bass.
With that facial hair, if he's
505
00:27:14,990 --> 00:27:16,870
not a good Fisher, somebody did
something.
506
00:27:17,150 --> 00:27:21,190
It's almost hunting season, man.
We a few weeks away, Mike,
507
00:27:21,190 --> 00:27:25,030
anything to add on any of the
offensive stuff?
508
00:27:25,030 --> 00:27:28,790
Because what I said it was.
I called it Tyler Bowen being a
509
00:27:28,790 --> 00:27:31,910
Jekyll and Hyde because there
were times it was times it
510
00:27:31,910 --> 00:27:35,790
looked like genius, and it was
times it looked like what?
511
00:27:36,790 --> 00:27:44,120
Yeah, his lack of his, his lack.
I think his, I think his lack of
512
00:27:44,120 --> 00:27:48,440
creativity.
So the opening script was pretty
513
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,280
good.
Obviously go down and score
514
00:27:50,360 --> 00:27:53,560
great.
But when it comes to like big
515
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,920
moments in the game, you know he
won't roll the quarterback out.
516
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,920
He won't make life a little bit
easier on the offensive line.
517
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,520
He won't just be stubborn in
some ways and just stick with
518
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:08,330
the run because you know the
running game actually looked
519
00:28:08,330 --> 00:28:10,930
pretty good early on and then we
just went away from it.
520
00:28:12,210 --> 00:28:15,650
I just think that he goes
through these spurts in the
521
00:28:15,650 --> 00:28:18,650
middle of the game where he gets
so inconsistent.
522
00:28:18,970 --> 00:28:24,410
He's just very he's very
tentative like the tight
523
00:28:24,410 --> 00:28:29,450
butthole comment is like that is
that is that is the truth.
524
00:28:29,530 --> 00:28:34,120
I mean the the big time moments.
I mean, he's just kind of, I
525
00:28:34,120 --> 00:28:37,360
want to say shrivels up, but it
kind of feels that way, right?
526
00:28:37,360 --> 00:28:40,040
And you just, you have a feeling
in the big moments.
527
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,320
You know it's felt that way.
Obviously for the first two
528
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,000
years you just have a feeling in
the big moments.
529
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,040
The offense is just not going to
come through and that's a
530
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,360
terrible feeling.
Right.
531
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,720
I'll say this.
Let me let me talk about this
532
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,800
real quick though, because I've
seen this on both sides of the
533
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:57,240
ball, both coordinators and I
think this goes back to the
534
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,040
inexperience that Tally was
talking about it, what Mike you
535
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:03,120
were talking about, it seems
like in the moment.
536
00:29:04,450 --> 00:29:07,890
We get really conservative
because we don't, we don't want
537
00:29:07,890 --> 00:29:10,530
to roll the dice and take take a
chance that our players can make
538
00:29:10,530 --> 00:29:13,410
plays.
So we end up playing it very
539
00:29:13,410 --> 00:29:17,250
conservatively and then that
bites us in the ass.
540
00:29:17,250 --> 00:29:20,770
So thinking about it on defense,
every time we get there's the
541
00:29:20,770 --> 00:29:23,770
offense is as a check with big.
When we've got a blitz going,
542
00:29:24,090 --> 00:29:26,730
we've checked out of the blitz
almost every time.
543
00:29:27,970 --> 00:29:31,610
We don't say I'm going to trust
my guys to get home.
544
00:29:32,050 --> 00:29:34,290
And make this play work.
Yeah.
545
00:29:35,690 --> 00:29:38,970
Just like on the offensive side,
as soon as there's a first sign
546
00:29:38,970 --> 00:29:41,570
of trouble, we we get really
conservative, all right, We're
547
00:29:41,570 --> 00:29:44,410
going to essentially become an
Air raid offense for two
548
00:29:44,410 --> 00:29:48,570
quarters because we're we're
afraid to to run the football
549
00:29:48,570 --> 00:29:50,530
and and potentially put the ball
in the ground again.
550
00:29:50,530 --> 00:29:53,410
And we're afraid that if we
throw the ball deep, we might
551
00:29:53,410 --> 00:29:55,490
turn the ball over, like at some
point you got to let your
552
00:29:55,490 --> 00:29:57,250
players go out there and make
plays.
553
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:02,040
Yep, you got to become fearless
in in some point, regardless of
554
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:03,280
what you are as an offensive
coordinator.
555
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,200
Mike, I'm going to do a little
bit different before I pitch it
556
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,360
to you here.
I do think some of Tyler's play
557
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:12,040
calls are creative.
I think what you're saying is is
558
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,880
in tight moments he does not
want to get those creative play
559
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,360
calls going and it's like that's
the issue.
560
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,800
It's not that he doesn't design
creative plays.
561
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:24,040
It's like this is the time to
pull that creative roll out with
562
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,440
the with with with Benji Gosnell
trickling back.
563
00:30:29,170 --> 00:30:32,010
Right up the scene with a
crosser coming where they don't
564
00:30:32,010 --> 00:30:33,730
know where to go and he's
rolling.
565
00:30:33,850 --> 00:30:36,250
So the linebackers leaving their
space, the safeties are out of
566
00:30:36,250 --> 00:30:37,890
place.
That's what he doesn't know how
567
00:30:37,890 --> 00:30:38,850
to do.
Now agree.
568
00:30:39,450 --> 00:30:41,130
I agree with that.
I thought he called a pretty
569
00:30:41,130 --> 00:30:43,090
good game.
I might be in the minority here.
570
00:30:43,090 --> 00:30:44,970
I thought he called a pretty
good game against Rutgers.
571
00:30:44,970 --> 00:30:46,570
I thought that execution wasn't
there.
572
00:30:46,610 --> 00:30:48,810
I thought, I thought the play
calling was pretty good against
573
00:30:48,810 --> 00:30:50,730
Rutgers.
I thought the play calling early
574
00:30:50,730 --> 00:30:53,330
in this game was pretty good and
then he just went away from it.
575
00:30:53,490 --> 00:30:56,850
And you know, again, Tech was
playing from behind the 8 ball
576
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,960
right before halftime and then
on throughout the second-half
577
00:30:59,960 --> 00:31:03,160
and just kind of went away from
what was working early in the
578
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,240
game.
Yeah, it seemed like he didn't
579
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,480
go back to it until it's like,
all right, we're in desperation
580
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,040
mode where if we don't score on
this drive, this game is over.
581
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,120
And that's when he finally, like
the the switch finally clicked.
582
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,200
He was like, all right, maybe we
need to get back to the running
583
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,720
game.
Maybe we need to use drones in
584
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,400
the running game to generate
some offense cuz you weren't
585
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,280
generating it consistently
enough with.
586
00:31:25,900 --> 00:31:29,300
Air Raid concepts and a couple
of inside runs with Thomas and
587
00:31:29,820 --> 00:31:32,900
let's talk about it tootin was
very effective and Thomas had a
588
00:31:32,900 --> 00:31:35,900
lot of run in that second and
third quarter where he was very
589
00:31:35,900 --> 00:31:40,740
ineffective and we just kept him
on the field for drive after
590
00:31:40,740 --> 00:31:44,100
drive.
So that that kind of frustrated
591
00:31:44,100 --> 00:31:45,460
me too.
I don't know if that was a call
592
00:31:45,460 --> 00:31:48,740
by Brooks.
I don't know what The Who, who's
593
00:31:48,740 --> 00:31:51,860
controlling the rotation there
at at the running back position
594
00:31:52,180 --> 00:31:55,460
on a game day situation, but it
just felt like.
595
00:31:57,010 --> 00:31:59,890
We're getting back to a point in
this We had similar criticisms
596
00:31:59,890 --> 00:32:02,410
of the last office of
coordinator, like situational
597
00:32:02,410 --> 00:32:04,770
play calling is not where it
needs to be.
598
00:32:06,290 --> 00:32:08,050
And you don't need to be great
at it.
599
00:32:08,050 --> 00:32:10,770
You just need to be good at it.
You don't need to be great.
600
00:32:10,850 --> 00:32:12,490
You just need to be good.
All right, let's move on.
601
00:32:12,490 --> 00:32:15,810
Let's flip over to defense.
All right, Mike, The floor is
602
00:32:15,810 --> 00:32:17,450
yours, man.
Mike wanted to go on.
603
00:32:17,530 --> 00:32:19,450
This is this is the only reason
he came on here.
604
00:32:19,450 --> 00:32:21,170
Y'all he wanted to go on this
rant.
605
00:32:21,690 --> 00:32:28,390
So Mike Floor's yours, 2
carries, 117 yards and two
606
00:32:28,390 --> 00:32:32,510
touchdowns for Rachina Lee. 68
1/2 yards for carry, that's
607
00:32:32,550 --> 00:32:36,430
that's pretty good for two runs.
Then he also had 25 other runs,
608
00:32:36,430 --> 00:32:39,070
went for 57 yards and averages
over 2 yards per carry.
609
00:32:40,750 --> 00:32:45,430
The the run fit issues are just
unfathomable.
610
00:32:45,710 --> 00:32:48,990
I don't understand it.
Like the linebacker play in
611
00:32:48,990 --> 00:32:52,000
particular has been so bad, and
I get that.
612
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,640
There's there's personnel issue,
there's mismatched personnel.
613
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,560
Guys play in our position at
linebacker.
614
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,320
I get all that and they're
they're trying to get more
615
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,640
athletic and more talented.
There's no excuse for the run
616
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,400
fits.
That's that's got nothing like
617
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,200
being more athletic and getting
more talented at linebacker,
618
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,400
that's got nothing to do with
run fits, right?
619
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,760
Fill the gap on the right, You
call defense, you have a
620
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,000
defensive play call.
Fill the gap you're supposed to
621
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,280
fill.
And how many times this year
622
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,690
have we seen explosive runs
through the first four games?
623
00:33:21,850 --> 00:33:25,050
That should never have happened.
It's just fundamental football.
624
00:33:25,530 --> 00:33:28,130
I mean, that's all that it is.
It's just fundamental football.
625
00:33:28,330 --> 00:33:31,610
We can have a conversation about
Okay, linebackers aren't big
626
00:33:31,610 --> 00:33:32,730
enough or they're not fast
enough.
627
00:33:32,730 --> 00:33:34,410
Not like enough.
They're not wrapping up.
628
00:33:34,410 --> 00:33:37,050
We can have that conversation.
That's not what this is about.
629
00:33:37,530 --> 00:33:40,050
It's a run fit issue.
It's been a run fit issue and
630
00:33:40,050 --> 00:33:44,080
hasn't been corrected.
Brent Pride led unbelievably
631
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,840
good defense is a Penn State.
Like good defense is a
632
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,680
Vanderbilt under Franklin and he
comes here and I get that.
633
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,480
He wants to kind of bring Chris
Marvel along, have him under his
634
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,960
wing, have this defense like you
know in his image, right.
635
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,240
He's got that.
He's got the the scheme that he
636
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,440
wants to implement.
He's got the guy that he wants
637
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,640
to bring along and mentor,
right.
638
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:11,060
The issue is that PRI was over
involved defensively last year
639
00:34:11,060 --> 00:34:13,139
and I thought the defense
throughout the year, given how
640
00:34:13,139 --> 00:34:15,820
bad the offense was, I thought
the defense hung in there last
641
00:34:15,820 --> 00:34:19,460
year.
PRI is now more hands off and
642
00:34:19,620 --> 00:34:22,620
everything's going to hell.
Tech had some issues on defense
643
00:34:22,620 --> 00:34:24,820
last year.
It was run fit issues from time
644
00:34:24,820 --> 00:34:26,460
to time.
It wasn't like this though.
645
00:34:26,900 --> 00:34:30,980
This is unbelievable to me how
bad the run fits are and I get
646
00:34:30,980 --> 00:34:33,260
they're down to you know, you're
down to starting safeties.
647
00:34:33,260 --> 00:34:36,620
I get that you've had, you know,
injuries on the defense.
648
00:34:36,940 --> 00:34:39,710
I understand all of that, but
there's just no excuse for the
649
00:34:39,750 --> 00:34:43,190
for the run, fit issues through
four games now, right?
650
00:34:43,190 --> 00:34:46,190
We're going into conference play
against the Pittsburgh team and
651
00:34:46,190 --> 00:34:49,550
we'll talk about it in a bit.
It's not that great, right?
652
00:34:49,909 --> 00:34:53,790
Not very good.
And I've got zero confidence
653
00:34:53,790 --> 00:34:55,870
that this team's going to stop
the run on Saturday 0.
654
00:34:55,870 --> 00:34:58,830
Confidence because I think they
can do it in spurts.
655
00:34:59,190 --> 00:35:03,870
Obviously there was you know, 25
out of 27 carries by Ali on on
656
00:35:04,110 --> 00:35:06,270
on Saturday against Marshall.
They did it.
657
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,720
They're pretty good, pretty
good.
658
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,280
But it's the two that they
didn't which end up costing you
659
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,520
the football game.
And it's been kind of a week
660
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,800
over week thing and it's just
been inconsistency on the
661
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,760
defensive side of the football
has now become a hallmark of a
662
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,400
Brent Pride head coach team,
which is the problem.
663
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,240
It's the inconsistency of
stopping the run and that's what
664
00:35:26,240 --> 00:35:29,560
it is, because if you look at
the other metrics, Mike and I'm
665
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,200
sure you have and y'all probably
have too.
666
00:35:32,150 --> 00:35:33,710
We're like upper echelon pass
defense.
667
00:35:33,710 --> 00:35:36,070
Well, we always go back to,
well, if you can run the ball on
668
00:35:36,070 --> 00:35:37,230
us, you're not gonna pass the
ball.
669
00:35:37,270 --> 00:35:39,870
That makes sense.
We forced turnovers.
670
00:35:40,030 --> 00:35:44,310
We forced 3 interceptions.
We are a middle of the pack team
671
00:35:44,310 --> 00:35:45,950
in Tfls.
We are middle of the pack team
672
00:35:45,950 --> 00:35:47,910
in Sacs.
You start looking at the
673
00:35:47,910 --> 00:35:50,790
metrics, We're Okay.
It's stopping third down and it
674
00:35:50,790 --> 00:35:54,750
says Okay, We're Okay here.
It's the one glaring issue,
675
00:35:54,750 --> 00:35:57,270
right?
It's the one glaring issue that
676
00:35:57,270 --> 00:36:00,790
I think if you said it's somehow
between now and the end of next
677
00:36:00,790 --> 00:36:04,390
month, it can get fixed.
This team will go from us
678
00:36:04,390 --> 00:36:06,830
wanting to throw shit to
probably being like, you know
679
00:36:06,830 --> 00:36:09,350
what that used to be a 35 yard
run.
680
00:36:09,350 --> 00:36:10,710
It's a 10 yard run now.
Well.
681
00:36:11,830 --> 00:36:14,030
The thing.
Is down, yes, but it's not
682
00:36:14,030 --> 00:36:16,550
killing you.
And that's what the that's what
683
00:36:16,550 --> 00:36:18,390
it is.
Go back and look every game.
684
00:36:18,390 --> 00:36:20,390
This year we've played every
game.
685
00:36:21,110 --> 00:36:24,230
The big runs, the big runs, if
what's killed it, the big runs
686
00:36:24,230 --> 00:36:27,230
are why we're losing the games.
We can talk about the other
687
00:36:27,230 --> 00:36:30,030
shit, y'all know that.
But that's what's losing us.
688
00:36:30,030 --> 00:36:32,550
The games it's not.
Oh, we didn't.
689
00:36:32,550 --> 00:36:35,110
We lost them last year.
It lost them last year.
690
00:36:35,350 --> 00:36:37,270
I lost PIT last year.
Jesus Christ.
691
00:36:38,790 --> 00:36:40,510
We don't want to talk about pit
last year.
692
00:36:40,510 --> 00:36:42,270
We're talking about the pit this
year.
693
00:36:43,710 --> 00:36:45,310
We'll put, you know what, Brian,
but hold on, hold on.
694
00:36:45,310 --> 00:36:46,950
Can I say something real quick?
I'm going to give you a floor
695
00:36:46,950 --> 00:36:49,520
tally in a second.
We are stepped back.
696
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,760
We're in the pit to Georgia Tech
phase again.
697
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:57,240
We've taken that step back
because look at the games.
698
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,920
We're not getting the shit
kicked out of us like we did
699
00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:03,720
against UNC, like we did against
West Virginia, like some of
700
00:37:03,720 --> 00:37:08,160
those early games we're not.
It's that same threshold where
701
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:12,600
we were last year from PIT up to
Liberty, where we do one fucking
702
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,840
thing wrong.
We make one bad fit.
703
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:19,120
We screw up one bad penalty, one
holding, one false start, one
704
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,720
false start on Saturday, by the
way, 4th and one to 4th and 6th
705
00:37:22,720 --> 00:37:28,520
with the Game Online bitch.
It's one little do y'all see
706
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,800
what I'm saying?
It's like we thought we were
707
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,160
over that and now we're we're
right back in it.
708
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:38,440
Yeah, we were hoping this year
as Tally is is prone to say that
709
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,880
we were in the win by a little
stage, but we're back in the
710
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:45,770
lose by a little stage, so go.
Well, the thing that yeah,
711
00:37:45,770 --> 00:37:49,810
because the thing that's
concerning is like Brett Pride
712
00:37:49,810 --> 00:37:53,410
is a defensive coach.
You know, you came to a no
713
00:37:53,410 --> 00:37:56,210
matter what Virginia Tech wants
to be, they're known as a
714
00:37:56,210 --> 00:37:59,130
defensive school.
You know, like we've always been
715
00:37:59,130 --> 00:38:01,450
known to have a the lunch pail
defense.
716
00:38:02,130 --> 00:38:04,330
Take that away.
We don't have to be the lunch
717
00:38:04,330 --> 00:38:06,770
pail anymore because we can't
fucking stop nobody from
718
00:38:06,770 --> 00:38:09,650
scoring.
But anyway, Pride is a defensive
719
00:38:09,650 --> 00:38:13,130
coach and I just don't see him
like.
720
00:38:13,690 --> 00:38:17,490
With the fire, when things are
going wrong, because he's seen
721
00:38:17,490 --> 00:38:22,130
it like I I have no doubt that
he has in his mind how things
722
00:38:22,130 --> 00:38:24,730
are supposed to look and how he
can fix it.
723
00:38:25,290 --> 00:38:28,090
But standing on the sidelines
writing stuff down on a piece of
724
00:38:28,090 --> 00:38:32,170
paper ain't fixing it, you know,
Doing it at practice ain't
725
00:38:32,170 --> 00:38:34,300
fixing it.
Maybe in the game you need to
726
00:38:34,300 --> 00:38:37,420
get in a coach's ass or a
player's ass or put somebody
727
00:38:37,420 --> 00:38:38,820
else in.
I don't know what the right
728
00:38:38,820 --> 00:38:40,660
thing to do is.
That's why I'm not getting paid
729
00:38:40,940 --> 00:38:44,580
$4 million to coach the team.
I'm just saying as a defensive
730
00:38:44,580 --> 00:38:49,180
coach, going to a defensive
school, you can't keep having
731
00:38:49,180 --> 00:38:52,420
the same defensive problems and
think that everybody's going to
732
00:38:52,420 --> 00:38:55,500
be okay with it.
Like at some point you got to
733
00:38:55,500 --> 00:38:57,900
win.
And I don't just mean win on
734
00:38:57,900 --> 00:39:03,400
like in the win column, I mean.
Not have the explosive play.
735
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,160
They threw a touchdown and beat
us.
736
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:06,680
It's got to be something
different.
737
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,680
We keep saying the same thing,
the same thing over and over.
738
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,840
Kind of like what Mike said,
what Curtis said and for me it
739
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,240
it's the head coach like it's on
him.
740
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,600
It's the second year we're we're
regressing.
741
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:23,080
We're seeing the same thing over
that we've seen last year and
742
00:39:23,240 --> 00:39:27,320
hell, it's fucking it's.
Embarrassing at this point.
743
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,160
You know, you're getting
commentators that starting to
744
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:34,600
say stuff that are just like,
well, sooner or later, Virginia
745
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,960
Tech's going to have to leave or
have to do more than just have a
746
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:39,840
cool entrance.
They said something like that
747
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:41,960
the other day.
I've been saying that.
748
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,240
But when I hear somebody else
say, it pisses me off, you know,
749
00:39:45,240 --> 00:39:48,560
So the head coach and again,
like Mike said, and I'm going to
750
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:53,920
give it back to you, Curtis.
He was so great at press
751
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:57,590
conferences in the offseason.
I think he has to flip a switch
752
00:39:57,590 --> 00:40:01,910
now and he has to kind of like
Biggie said, you got to lean
753
00:40:01,910 --> 00:40:04,590
into the beef sometime.
You got to address the hard
754
00:40:04,590 --> 00:40:07,030
stuff.
You got to start saying, look, I
755
00:40:07,030 --> 00:40:10,630
hear what y'all are saying about
this team and we're going to fix
756
00:40:10,630 --> 00:40:13,070
it.
If we got to scorch the earth,
757
00:40:13,070 --> 00:40:16,190
we're going to make sure that
this works instead of just doing
758
00:40:16,190 --> 00:40:19,430
the hey, we going to make it.
It's going to be okay.
759
00:40:19,630 --> 00:40:22,830
We kind of get now we do it.
Hey man, stop the stop the sweet
760
00:40:22,830 --> 00:40:24,540
talking.
You know what I want?
761
00:40:24,660 --> 00:40:27,060
You know what I want?
You talk about the Big E blind.
762
00:40:27,340 --> 00:40:29,860
I want to enter defensive
coordinator in him to come out
763
00:40:30,140 --> 00:40:32,340
because defensive coordinators
don't act like that on the
764
00:40:32,340 --> 00:40:34,300
sidelines.
We saw Bud for years.
765
00:40:34,300 --> 00:40:36,420
We even saw you ever watch some
of the Penn State games.
766
00:40:36,660 --> 00:40:39,180
He was a fiery guy on the.
Yeah, exactly.
767
00:40:39,220 --> 00:40:43,380
He's got to find that because I
think that's what's missing on
768
00:40:43,500 --> 00:40:45,460
that side of the ball.
I think so.
769
00:40:45,460 --> 00:40:49,540
On that side of the ball and we
said and and we sat down like
770
00:40:49,580 --> 00:40:51,140
for the Purdue game we were
right behind the bench.
771
00:40:51,340 --> 00:40:54,660
Chris Mark give Chris Mark
credit Chris Mark did have fire
772
00:40:54,660 --> 00:40:58,940
on the sidelines you we saw him
like getting in guys faces
773
00:40:58,940 --> 00:41:02,420
grabbing face masks hitting you
know doing the old thing like
774
00:41:02,420 --> 00:41:04,580
good job probably was calm the
whole game.
775
00:41:05,380 --> 00:41:09,300
I think what it is is a lot of
the team is following that.
776
00:41:09,300 --> 00:41:11,620
Yeah, you need to be cool under
pressure, but sometimes you got
777
00:41:11,860 --> 00:41:14,900
as as we say it on this program,
like, I'll let you nuts hang.
778
00:41:15,300 --> 00:41:17,140
He's got to let his nuts sang in
somebody's face.
779
00:41:17,420 --> 00:41:20,660
The prime opportunity,
especially as bad as run fits
780
00:41:20,660 --> 00:41:23,300
would have been, was getting
after Will Johnson when he
781
00:41:23,300 --> 00:41:25,660
missed that fit on that first
touchdown run.
782
00:41:25,900 --> 00:41:29,180
Like, literally come here.
Why are you looking where the
783
00:41:29,180 --> 00:41:31,580
quarterback's going?
You are in B gap.
784
00:41:31,740 --> 00:41:34,500
You get the fuck to B Gap and
you stop his ass.
785
00:41:34,980 --> 00:41:37,540
I don't care if you just get an
arm or if you get a part of a
786
00:41:37,540 --> 00:41:39,140
leg.
Guess what that's going to do?
787
00:41:39,140 --> 00:41:42,350
That's going to make clean up a
lot easier 10 yards down the
788
00:41:42,350 --> 00:41:44,510
field than it is 61 in the end
zone.
789
00:41:46,590 --> 00:41:51,030
Anything else from Saturday?
I'll play for you anytime,
790
00:41:51,030 --> 00:41:51,870
Curtis.
Jesus.
791
00:41:52,990 --> 00:41:55,830
I thought Curtis Red is always a
fun thing.
792
00:41:56,110 --> 00:41:58,550
Yeah, I thought about playing
for Curtis until he just said
793
00:41:58,550 --> 00:42:00,710
somebody needs to let the nuts
hang in somebody's face.
794
00:42:02,150 --> 00:42:03,790
Definitely.
Just take everybody's face.
795
00:42:04,110 --> 00:42:07,050
I promise you, you did.
No.
796
00:42:07,690 --> 00:42:09,290
Well, you go back and listen to
this.
797
00:42:10,090 --> 00:42:10,930
Why?
You better not.
798
00:42:11,170 --> 00:42:13,530
You better not edit it.
I'm not editing it out the
799
00:42:13,530 --> 00:42:14,850
teabag.
I'm not editing it out.
800
00:42:14,850 --> 00:42:21,010
The Teabag Man Teabag stays in.
What else do we see from
801
00:42:21,010 --> 00:42:28,170
Saturday that that was bad?
I mean, we went through bouts
802
00:42:28,170 --> 00:42:30,450
where we're not, we're getting
consistent pressure.
803
00:42:30,450 --> 00:42:33,970
I mean, I know they weren't
throwing the ball very much, but
804
00:42:33,970 --> 00:42:38,010
I feel like.
Since ODUI haven't seen the
805
00:42:38,050 --> 00:42:39,810
consistent pressure that I want
to see.
806
00:42:39,810 --> 00:42:42,210
I think we're we're getting some
hurries but we're not getting
807
00:42:42,210 --> 00:42:46,170
home and getting those sacks and
getting them in long down and
808
00:42:46,170 --> 00:42:49,610
distant situations that would
benefit our team and help on
809
00:42:49,610 --> 00:42:52,410
those downs where we're
surrendering these long ass
810
00:42:52,410 --> 00:42:55,050
runs.
You know they might be throwing
811
00:42:55,050 --> 00:42:58,370
the ball if we can get them in
3rd and 12 and 3rd and 9
812
00:42:58,370 --> 00:43:03,250
consistently.
I got.
813
00:43:03,290 --> 00:43:09,010
I got one piece for y'all and
we're not we're not the worst
814
00:43:09,010 --> 00:43:10,610
team in the country and I'm the
bottom 10.
815
00:43:10,610 --> 00:43:14,930
We're, I think we're like 72nd,
but it's the penalties and it's
816
00:43:14,930 --> 00:43:20,090
the stupid penalties, 6 fall
starts, 6 fall starts.
817
00:43:20,090 --> 00:43:22,930
We're regressing there again.
We're regressing there again.
818
00:43:23,090 --> 00:43:26,210
We're regressing there again.
And then we had a couple
819
00:43:26,210 --> 00:43:30,770
offsides and I know I got two
guys here, one play D line, they
820
00:43:30,770 --> 00:43:32,490
both played on the offensive
line.
821
00:43:33,650 --> 00:43:36,610
That's that's them.
Y'all said it before Italian
822
00:43:36,610 --> 00:43:38,570
Brian.
Like that's that's not coaching,
823
00:43:39,170 --> 00:43:41,690
that's you.
You're supposed to do your job.
824
00:43:41,690 --> 00:43:42,770
You know what you're supposed to
do?
825
00:43:44,330 --> 00:43:48,610
That's that's thinking too much
about other stuff and not not
826
00:43:48,610 --> 00:43:53,330
staying focused on what the task
at hand is because and and I
827
00:43:53,330 --> 00:43:56,690
know they're practicing enough
where from a mental Rep
828
00:43:56,690 --> 00:43:59,450
standpoint, this should not be a
problem.
829
00:43:59,970 --> 00:44:01,570
I'm I'm not concerned about
that.
830
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:06,200
Because if you're repping it and
you're repping these situational
831
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,240
calls where you're going on a
different count, are you, are
832
00:44:10,240 --> 00:44:13,680
you doing this even in an even
in a hostile environment like
833
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:14,840
Marshall?
I know that's not, you know,
834
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,640
hostile.
I'll use quotes here.
835
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:21,520
It's a road game, right?
So I mean that that really
836
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:25,400
shouldn't be a a problem, that
that is you thinking too much
837
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:29,240
about your assignment or you got
beat last time and you're trying
838
00:44:29,240 --> 00:44:32,370
to get one back.
And all this other stuff, and
839
00:44:32,370 --> 00:44:35,050
now you know you're doing too
much.
840
00:44:35,530 --> 00:44:38,130
Do less.
It's fear.
841
00:44:38,170 --> 00:44:40,170
That's, that's what it is.
I hate to say that as an
842
00:44:40,170 --> 00:44:44,890
offensive lineman, tight in a
lot of times jumping outside is
843
00:44:44,890 --> 00:44:47,810
fear.
Or if you seen even like wide
844
00:44:47,810 --> 00:44:50,050
receivers or somebody jumps at
them and they flinch.
845
00:44:50,450 --> 00:44:54,450
It's fear, you know, because
you're reacting to what's going
846
00:44:54,450 --> 00:44:56,570
on around you or what the other
person is doing.
847
00:44:56,850 --> 00:45:01,010
I've talked about it before.
When you're on that line, it's a
848
00:45:01,010 --> 00:45:03,050
lot of stuff that's being said.
You know, you got the
849
00:45:03,050 --> 00:45:05,970
quarterback making calls, you
got your center supposed to be
850
00:45:05,970 --> 00:45:09,010
calling some things out.
You got their defensive captain,
851
00:45:09,090 --> 00:45:10,730
probably linebacker making some
calls.
852
00:45:10,970 --> 00:45:14,170
You got your lineman switching
and moving and you got lineman
853
00:45:14,330 --> 00:45:18,690
that's probably talking shit.
And if I did to 70 what 55 did,
854
00:45:18,970 --> 00:45:21,010
I would be saying do y'all know
what I'm about to do.
855
00:45:21,010 --> 00:45:22,810
I'm going to go kill your
quarterback.
856
00:45:23,010 --> 00:45:24,490
I'm about to fuck y'all up
again.
857
00:45:24,770 --> 00:45:26,570
We'll get some Alvin Mac folks
in here.
858
00:45:27,250 --> 00:45:29,260
Exactly.
Bad.
859
00:45:29,260 --> 00:45:31,820
We don't even talk about this
movie right now.
860
00:45:31,940 --> 00:45:37,020
But, well, last piece.
You can see the fear, you see
861
00:45:37,020 --> 00:45:40,380
the fear on our offensive line
and I think it's what pisses me
862
00:45:40,380 --> 00:45:41,980
off.
Go ahead Curtis.
863
00:45:42,580 --> 00:45:45,900
Well the last piece I got and it
goes back to some we talked
864
00:45:45,900 --> 00:45:49,340
about probably 20 minutes ago.
Now is we are having another,
865
00:45:49,340 --> 00:45:52,420
again, lack of complimentary
football because we forced the
866
00:45:52,420 --> 00:45:53,540
turnover.
We get nothing.
867
00:45:54,100 --> 00:45:57,460
We have a string of them going 3
and outs.
868
00:45:57,460 --> 00:46:00,200
We get nothing.
Prac keeps preaching it,
869
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,080
complimenting football,
complimenting football.
870
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,360
Eventually you got to do
something.
871
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,000
And The thing is, everything.
We're kind of leading up to
872
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,440
this, right?
It's great.
873
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,320
Those those four drives, they
could not run the ball, they
874
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,320
could not pass the ball.
But you know what?
875
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,920
You were so conservative and you
were tight.
876
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:21,580
You didn't attack.
You didn't attack just like
877
00:46:21,780 --> 00:46:23,780
Y'all were talking about take
somebody put on here a while
878
00:46:23,780 --> 00:46:27,140
ago, Why didn't we take a shot
on 1st down when we were right
879
00:46:27,140 --> 00:46:29,900
there after the turnover?
That's your prime time take a
880
00:46:29,900 --> 00:46:32,780
shot.
So it's it's this whole, if you
881
00:46:32,780 --> 00:46:35,780
won't call any football, you've
got to do the right things in
882
00:46:35,780 --> 00:46:39,180
those points.
And right now we're not seeing
883
00:46:39,180 --> 00:46:41,580
it.
And the bad thing is we're
884
00:46:41,580 --> 00:46:44,150
seeing pieces here and there.
All right, Y'all got anything
885
00:46:44,150 --> 00:46:46,350
else on what went bad?
Because I think we just went 20
886
00:46:46,350 --> 00:46:48,910
minutes or 25 minutes on what
went bad.
887
00:46:49,950 --> 00:46:51,990
Yeah.
And I mean, I'll, I'll finish
888
00:46:51,990 --> 00:46:54,710
one more thing here, wrap it up,
let's take you to the next one.
889
00:46:54,830 --> 00:46:57,510
Yeah, you you talk about the the
complimentary football, but it's
890
00:46:57,510 --> 00:47:03,310
also it's like we we can't seem
to do each of those.
891
00:47:03,310 --> 00:47:06,030
Like you have buckets of things,
things you have like you do
892
00:47:06,030 --> 00:47:07,990
every week, right.
These are the things we need to
893
00:47:07,990 --> 00:47:11,300
do this week and like.
One bucket will look good for
894
00:47:11,300 --> 00:47:13,660
1/4 and another bucket will look
good for 1/4.
895
00:47:13,660 --> 00:47:16,780
Another like a different quarter
and but we're not piercing
896
00:47:16,780 --> 00:47:19,820
together other than like coming
out of the gate in the first
897
00:47:19,820 --> 00:47:22,300
quarter.
We did never piece the rest of
898
00:47:22,300 --> 00:47:26,060
the game together where everyone
all of those buckets were kind
899
00:47:26,060 --> 00:47:29,540
of working In Sync, yeah.
And that's only for like a
900
00:47:29,540 --> 00:47:31,340
couple of possessions in the
first quarter too.
901
00:47:31,340 --> 00:47:34,060
You know, it wasn't even, I know
it was a it was a pretty quick
902
00:47:34,060 --> 00:47:36,700
quarter, but it was really just
those first.
903
00:47:37,030 --> 00:47:39,150
You know, it was the the one
offensive procession and where
904
00:47:39,150 --> 00:47:42,110
they, you know, go out and
score, get the interception and
905
00:47:42,270 --> 00:47:44,790
then that was about it.
Then it just kind of stopped,
906
00:47:44,790 --> 00:47:46,110
right?
Especially on the offensive
907
00:47:46,110 --> 00:47:48,550
side.
All righty.
908
00:47:48,550 --> 00:47:50,630
All right, let's move on to the
next one.
909
00:47:50,630 --> 00:47:52,750
Cuz we've talked enough about
that we probably could talk
910
00:47:52,750 --> 00:47:55,510
another 15 minutes about it, but
eventually we have to move on.
911
00:47:55,510 --> 00:47:59,390
We have a lot more stuff talk
about and the next piece is, did
912
00:47:59,430 --> 00:48:01,870
anything happen that you were
not prepared for?
913
00:48:01,870 --> 00:48:04,510
I'm gonna just tell you all
this, nothing shocks me anymore
914
00:48:04,630 --> 00:48:09,460
right now with this team.
Nope, it likes to me.
915
00:48:11,660 --> 00:48:16,100
I got a kind of positive, I got
a kind of +1 that I was really
916
00:48:16,100 --> 00:48:20,420
prepared for.
So I we haven't seen a lot of of
917
00:48:20,420 --> 00:48:24,980
drones, you know him coming from
Baylor and then him practicing
918
00:48:24,980 --> 00:48:27,260
and that's not now this is not
the pat him on the back because
919
00:48:27,260 --> 00:48:30,820
he still has to get better.
But I was shocked at how.
920
00:48:31,700 --> 00:48:34,220
How strong he is.
If you watch some of his runs,
921
00:48:34,220 --> 00:48:38,180
he's starting to fall forward on
that touchdown run, he wasn't
922
00:48:38,180 --> 00:48:41,660
supposed supposed to score.
I mean, he was locked up and he
923
00:48:41,660 --> 00:48:43,700
broke out of there.
And not only did he break out of
924
00:48:43,700 --> 00:48:47,860
there, he accelerated, you know?
So that kind of shocked me.
925
00:48:48,100 --> 00:48:50,220
Now that takes me to kind of
another point.
926
00:48:51,940 --> 00:48:54,900
Once you start seeing somebody
game, once you start seeing
927
00:48:54,900 --> 00:48:57,660
somebody be a gamer, you got to
build off of that.
928
00:48:57,900 --> 00:49:02,060
If you see that he has that.
You got to let him cook.
929
00:49:02,060 --> 00:49:05,180
You got to let him do that.
Hey man, you remember in the
930
00:49:05,180 --> 00:49:08,940
first quarter or you got bottled
up and that you didn't go down.
931
00:49:08,940 --> 00:49:11,060
You kept your legs turning.
I need that.
932
00:49:11,060 --> 00:49:13,620
We need 3 yards.
That's what we got to see.
933
00:49:14,020 --> 00:49:17,140
I'm going to ask you a question
to y'all because I don't know
934
00:49:17,140 --> 00:49:18,860
the answer.
I wish I had Shelton here.
935
00:49:19,220 --> 00:49:23,460
How many offensive coordinators
and quarterback coaches are in
936
00:49:23,460 --> 00:49:27,140
the in the booth like across
college football?
937
00:49:27,900 --> 00:49:34,410
Do y'all know I I can I do not
know that I'll I'll I forget
938
00:49:34,410 --> 00:49:37,090
while y'all talk about it.
Well, it just seems to me
939
00:49:37,570 --> 00:49:42,610
because of what Tebow is
supposed to be, you know, he's
940
00:49:42,610 --> 00:49:44,730
coaching the quarterbacks and
they said, oh, he's close to
941
00:49:44,730 --> 00:49:48,010
those guys.
And you have a quarterback there
942
00:49:48,010 --> 00:49:52,290
now in Kyron Drones that has
been playing that's very young,
943
00:49:53,090 --> 00:49:55,810
but his skill set is a little
bit different from somebody like
944
00:49:55,810 --> 00:49:59,160
Grant.
Would it not help if he's there
945
00:49:59,240 --> 00:50:03,600
on the sideline and can talk to
him and see what he's seeing and
946
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,360
they can have that commentary
instead of he get off.
947
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,440
You got to pick up the phone.
You know you.
948
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,040
I don't know, man.
It's just it's a it's a lot of
949
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:12,680
stuff that goes on in that
coaching stuff that I don't
950
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,520
understand.
This is this is where having
951
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:19,600
Bowen be both the OC and the QB
coach, I think becomes a little
952
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,360
bit of a problem, I think
because of what you just said.
953
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:24,680
And that's a really good point.
That's something I actually
954
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,320
hadn't even thought about.
And there are a lot of reasons
955
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:28,920
why.
So I I was actually originally
956
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,440
okay with Bowen being the
quarterbacks coach.
957
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,160
Like, I didn't love it, but I
understood it Now.
958
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,000
I'm not as big of a fan of it
and Tally.
959
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,600
I think that was a great point.
And now it's making me wonder
960
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:42,960
like I'm good with the OC being
in the booth normally, right?
961
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:44,680
Sees, sees the whole field and
all that.
962
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,120
But usually you got the
quarterback coach on the field,
963
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,880
right?
You got you know you you used to
964
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,200
have Glen on the field just
there and you know talk to wells
965
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,600
last year don't have that
anymore so.
966
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:57,520
Yeah, I don't know what the
right answer is there.
967
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,080
That's a great point.
And I think that would be okay
968
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:04,680
if you had a experienced
offensive coordinator and an
969
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,760
experienced quarterback coach.
But Bowen is neither right now.
970
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,240
Yeah.
So it's kind of that double
971
00:51:11,240 --> 00:51:15,720
whammy and as someone that has
been on the been on the sideline
972
00:51:15,720 --> 00:51:18,920
and been in a booth and in a
game situation talking about you
973
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:22,160
in the booth.
I hated being the booth.
974
00:51:23,490 --> 00:51:26,810
I mean, I'm an energy guy.
I I need the energy of the
975
00:51:26,810 --> 00:51:30,250
sideline to kind of get in the
right mindset and like get hyper
976
00:51:30,250 --> 00:51:32,290
focused on what I'm seeing being
in the booth.
977
00:51:32,290 --> 00:51:35,890
It was too detached from that
for me.
978
00:51:36,650 --> 00:51:41,210
And I feel like with when you
got a inexperienced quarterback,
979
00:51:41,530 --> 00:51:44,690
you got an inexperienced
coordinator and and he's
980
00:51:44,690 --> 00:51:47,370
inexperienced at coaching the
quarterback position.
981
00:51:48,310 --> 00:51:51,190
Any way that they can engage
more dynamically on the
982
00:51:51,190 --> 00:51:54,150
sideline, I feel like would be a
good thing in terms of both
983
00:51:54,230 --> 00:51:56,190
Bowen's growth and drones
growth.
984
00:51:58,150 --> 00:52:01,590
I'm I'm with you on that and I
think it's you'll make really
985
00:52:01,590 --> 00:52:03,990
good points across about he
needs to be down there.
986
00:52:03,990 --> 00:52:06,830
But the question is who do you
put in the booth then you're
987
00:52:06,830 --> 00:52:08,630
going to have, you're going to
have.
988
00:52:08,630 --> 00:52:11,470
Right now there's only one guy
up there, Cuz Fontel's on the
989
00:52:11,470 --> 00:52:13,390
field, Crook's on the field and
Stew's on the field.
990
00:52:13,390 --> 00:52:16,160
And I see it.
Four of the offensive coaching
991
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:20,080
staff members are on the field.
It's only Bowen and probably an
992
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:24,240
analyst up in the booth.
If you bring him down, who goes
993
00:52:24,240 --> 00:52:24,720
up?
It's not.
994
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:26,080
It's got to be.
It's got to be.
995
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:29,320
Brooks.
It's got to be Brooks and I
996
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:32,800
don't know how often Brooks has
been up there, but I will say
997
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:36,680
this and and you know Coach
Pride, if you listen to this, we
998
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:38,440
still love you.
Please come back next year.
999
00:52:40,240 --> 00:52:44,240
But let's be realistic though.
We have seen pride make changes.
1000
00:52:44,570 --> 00:52:46,370
He's not afraid to do something
different.
1001
00:52:46,370 --> 00:52:48,810
We saw it in the offseason.
We've already seen it this
1002
00:52:48,810 --> 00:52:52,210
season because remember last
year, Glenn and Bowen were in
1003
00:52:52,210 --> 00:52:55,450
the booth, then Glenn came down
later in the season.
1004
00:52:56,450 --> 00:53:03,330
Remember that, that to his
credit, he will make the changes
1005
00:53:03,770 --> 00:53:05,730
and then you just have to decide
who goes up.
1006
00:53:05,730 --> 00:53:08,890
Because right now, if y'all look
it's Fontelle is effectively the
1007
00:53:08,890 --> 00:53:14,100
guy getting the huddle, calling
those first set of plays and
1008
00:53:14,100 --> 00:53:16,300
sending them to the field.
He's the juice guy.
1009
00:53:16,300 --> 00:53:18,180
He's also getting getting the
calls in.
1010
00:53:18,540 --> 00:53:21,460
But the other thing is you see a
lot of times and y'all follow a
1011
00:53:21,460 --> 00:53:24,260
lot of football.
Usually the wide receivers coach
1012
00:53:24,380 --> 00:53:27,500
is up in the booth to
effectively see what's the
1013
00:53:27,500 --> 00:53:30,700
backs, coverages and to see what
routes or should we rerunning
1014
00:53:30,700 --> 00:53:32,300
into.
So we'll see how that goes.
1015
00:53:32,740 --> 00:53:34,500
All right.
Anything else?
1016
00:53:35,780 --> 00:53:37,940
Brian, you already mentioned
your anything else y'all we're
1017
00:53:37,940 --> 00:53:39,860
not prepared for.
Tally went positive there.
1018
00:53:42,270 --> 00:53:48,190
As positive as you could be
after losing the Marshall, I'm
1019
00:53:48,190 --> 00:53:49,750
laughing at comments here.
So.
1020
00:53:49,790 --> 00:53:54,030
Yeah, I was reading that too.
And Jerry still let it, man.
1021
00:53:58,190 --> 00:54:01,510
Listen, we we we can't fire
somebody every 15 games.
1022
00:54:02,030 --> 00:54:03,910
Y'all y'all got to put that in
your head.
1023
00:54:03,950 --> 00:54:05,710
Where's the money coming from?
Where's the?
1024
00:54:05,830 --> 00:54:08,310
Because if you pull him out
right now, if you can pay 23 and
1025
00:54:08,310 --> 00:54:11,140
a half million dollars stroke to
check, get him out, nobody'd
1026
00:54:11,140 --> 00:54:12,460
have a problem.
Are we still?
1027
00:54:12,500 --> 00:54:14,020
Paying for Are we still paying
for Winte?
1028
00:54:14,020 --> 00:54:17,660
We're still paying for Winte.
That's why I thought so.
1029
00:54:17,780 --> 00:54:20,740
If you got 33 million, stroke it
to the athletic department.
1030
00:54:20,740 --> 00:54:23,900
We can get rid of pride.
Yeah, shit don't work like that.
1031
00:54:23,900 --> 00:54:26,380
You can't just fire, fire fire
fire, by the way.
1032
00:54:26,420 --> 00:54:28,220
We don't have Tennessee booster
money.
1033
00:54:29,140 --> 00:54:30,500
Tennessee didn't even do that
shit.
1034
00:54:30,500 --> 00:54:32,980
They gave guys three years at
least before they fired him.
1035
00:54:34,260 --> 00:54:36,460
Y'all this ain't mad and this
ain't college football on your
1036
00:54:36,460 --> 00:54:38,820
PlayStation.
You've got to look through the
1037
00:54:38,820 --> 00:54:42,880
lens of if it goes really bad
this year, he's got next year to
1038
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,160
win a lot of games and that's
it.
1039
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:49,040
But I think we also this year
and he turns it around this year
1040
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:53,680
by the way and ready.
All love, baby.
1041
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:55,120
All love.
All love.
1042
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,320
We we get heated.
No we get heated.
1043
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,960
We won't our program to be good
because we've seen it good.
1044
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,800
And I think the other thing, so
we'll say this real quick just
1045
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:06,560
to kind of piggyback on that,
you know, when we talk about
1046
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:10,000
this whole coaching thing like.
I love what Dion's doing in
1047
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,360
Colorado.
That's not something that you
1048
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:16,880
can replicate in every scenario
across the country one.
1049
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:21,000
Of 1, Even when you talk about
bringing in a former player,
1050
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:26,000
like highest profile possible,
it's Dion is Dion.
1051
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,560
Dion's always been Dion one of
one.
1052
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:34,120
There's like he's one of one and
there's only like maybe two or
1053
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:37,840
three other guys even in that
category that.
1054
00:55:38,230 --> 00:55:40,630
Took the path that he took to
kind of get there, right?
1055
00:55:40,630 --> 00:55:42,950
So hold on, hold on.
You want to talk about Dion?
1056
00:55:43,390 --> 00:55:46,870
He started coaching high school
football over a decade ago.
1057
00:55:48,070 --> 00:55:50,110
He started coaching high school
football.
1058
00:55:50,950 --> 00:55:53,910
He did from 12 to 13.
Then he went to Trinity
1059
00:55:53,910 --> 00:55:56,990
Christian, which I believe is a
pretty top notch where he was an
1060
00:55:56,990 --> 00:55:58,190
OC.
Wagon.
1061
00:55:59,510 --> 00:56:03,030
Then he went to Jackson State.
Dion just didn't jump into
1062
00:56:03,030 --> 00:56:05,870
Colorado.
Dion took this as his path.
1063
00:56:06,570 --> 00:56:11,290
Deon started this in 2012.
Did everybody know that?
1064
00:56:11,290 --> 00:56:13,450
Did everybody know Deon was
coaching high school football in
1065
00:56:13,450 --> 00:56:16,570
Texas for damn near 8 years
where he took to Jackson State
1066
00:56:16,570 --> 00:56:17,490
job?
Nobody did.
1067
00:56:18,010 --> 00:56:19,770
If you did, you ain't been
paying attention.
1068
00:56:20,850 --> 00:56:23,730
I'll go on a small a small
tangent here just so people
1069
00:56:24,010 --> 00:56:26,410
understand how, because they
talk about the culture and
1070
00:56:26,410 --> 00:56:27,890
stuff.
And I guess I got to be the
1071
00:56:27,890 --> 00:56:32,330
black spokesperson for this.
So a lot of people have hitched
1072
00:56:32,330 --> 00:56:36,850
their wagon to Deon because.
High talks, high dresses, things
1073
00:56:36,850 --> 00:56:42,930
that he does with his team, how
outspoken he is, which beyond
1074
00:56:42,930 --> 00:56:45,290
coaches like he played.
He's prime time.
1075
00:56:45,730 --> 00:56:48,490
He's the only person who can do
that and get away with that.
1076
00:56:49,010 --> 00:56:52,570
There is a lot of black coaches
out there too, and I want to say
1077
00:56:52,570 --> 00:56:58,530
a lot as in millions, hundreds,
thousands, 20, but I'm saying
1078
00:56:58,530 --> 00:57:00,450
there's a lot of good black
coaches out there.
1079
00:57:00,450 --> 00:57:03,330
You talk about Locksley, you
talk about.
1080
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:07,680
James Franklin, You know those
guys are undefeated right now.
1081
00:57:07,720 --> 00:57:11,520
You know when you talk about
black coaches being at big time
1082
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:16,520
programs, I say all that to say,
the thing that bothers me about
1083
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:22,320
Dion is that I feel that and I
don't want to mess this up.
1084
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:23,880
But he's put a target on his
back.
1085
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:27,880
He's put a target on his team's
back and now they got to live up
1086
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,400
to it.
You know, I know they only won
1087
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:32,480
one game last year, no games
last year.
1088
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,590
They won three.
Great job.
1089
00:57:35,870 --> 00:57:38,630
But going and getting Curb
stopped by Oregon didn't look
1090
00:57:38,630 --> 00:57:41,190
good.
And then now you got USC that
1091
00:57:41,190 --> 00:57:43,870
you got an answer to and you're
a 20 point underdog and that.
1092
00:57:44,190 --> 00:57:47,230
And then you know he goes and he
says, well they better get me
1093
00:57:47,230 --> 00:57:48,750
now because it's the worst I'm
going to be.
1094
00:57:48,950 --> 00:57:52,430
I've heard that before and his
name was Justin Fuente.
1095
00:57:53,470 --> 00:57:56,830
That comment didn't doesn't
resonate that well with me.
1096
00:57:56,830 --> 00:58:00,550
So Dion has a lot of work to do
with his players and his team.
1097
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,360
If he wants to go to that next
level and start to, you know,
1098
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:06,600
win those big time games and
things like that, Kudos the deal
1099
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:09,840
for what he's doing though.
All right, all right, y'all
1100
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,520
let's just talk real quick
because we've got two more
1101
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:15,760
things before we hit break here.
What can we do better moving
1102
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:17,640
forward?
Brian, I'm going to let you
1103
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:22,280
leave this because we we've been
talking about 70 a lot.
1104
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:28,000
Yeah, you got to get Brody at
left at right tackle there.
1105
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:30,520
Get Brody Meadows at right
tackle.
1106
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:33,800
I know he's mostly played guard
so far in the season, but
1107
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:37,680
there's a when we when we look
at the 2D, Brody's listed as the
1108
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:41,200
backup left tackle, OK, but the
the 2D means Jack shit for an
1109
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,120
offensive line.
You're really talking about your
1110
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:46,440
five starters plus two guys that
you're comfortable with, maybe
1111
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:49,080
three at the most that you're
comfortable with playing in the
1112
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:53,600
game, so.
Given where the depth chart is
1113
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:56,080
and where Brody's played,
they're essentially using him as
1114
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:57,840
a guy that can be a kind of a
swing tackle.
1115
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:00,720
Swing guard can jump in either
of those spots when needed.
1116
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,680
Get him at right tackle, get
Parker off the field.
1117
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:08,320
He's got lazy feet, he's not
graded and run blocking.
1118
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:13,200
Get him off the field.
He is a big, big, big time
1119
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:17,280
hindrance to both the running
game and pass pro at this point.
1120
00:59:18,170 --> 00:59:21,010
And and really disappointing
because you know by all accounts
1121
00:59:21,010 --> 00:59:24,850
had a really good spring and
good offseason and then you know
1122
00:59:24,850 --> 00:59:27,970
we we see a couple things here
there and now the you know the
1123
00:59:28,010 --> 00:59:29,690
the wheels falling off the wagon
again.
1124
00:59:29,690 --> 00:59:33,290
So yeah, get Parker off the
field.
1125
00:59:33,290 --> 00:59:35,330
Get Brody Meadows in there,
Mike.
1126
00:59:35,330 --> 00:59:39,610
What you got, man?
Just play some complimentary
1127
00:59:39,610 --> 00:59:44,290
football for the love of God
like it doesn't need to.
1128
00:59:44,290 --> 00:59:46,660
Be thanks, Coach Brian.
It doesn't have to be that God
1129
00:59:46,660 --> 00:59:49,940
damn difficult.
Like just run the football,
1130
00:59:50,420 --> 00:59:54,660
stick with it when it's working.
If the passing game's working,
1131
00:59:54,660 --> 00:59:57,660
stick with that.
Run fits.
1132
00:59:57,740 --> 01:00:01,140
Clean it up, wrap up.
It doesn't.
1133
01:00:01,140 --> 01:00:04,060
This does not have to be as
difficult as we're making it,
1134
01:00:04,140 --> 01:00:05,820
and it's not.
I'm so sick of hearing the
1135
01:00:05,820 --> 01:00:11,180
talent excuse too.
Like I, I, I will look last
1136
01:00:11,260 --> 01:00:14,500
year, yes, go last year, yes.
Go play Florida State.
1137
01:00:14,500 --> 01:00:15,620
Talent issue?
Fine.
1138
01:00:16,580 --> 01:00:19,180
Go play other, you know, go play
NC State later in the year.
1139
01:00:19,180 --> 01:00:23,220
If you want to talk about talent
issue, that's fine there.
1140
01:00:23,500 --> 01:00:27,540
The teams that Tech's played so
far through four games, this
1141
01:00:27,540 --> 01:00:30,860
isn't a talent thing.
This is a coaching thing.
1142
01:00:30,980 --> 01:00:35,300
I mean these are, these are
four, these are four teams that
1143
01:00:35,860 --> 01:00:38,060
you know could be had.
It wasn't like Virginia Tech was
1144
01:00:38,060 --> 01:00:40,140
going into these games, the two
touchdown underdog.
1145
01:00:40,460 --> 01:00:43,530
Right, so.
Rutgers is probably the only
1146
01:00:43,530 --> 01:00:47,170
team that is close to us in
terms of talent.
1147
01:00:47,650 --> 01:00:49,650
You might give them the slight
edge beak at home.
1148
01:00:49,650 --> 01:00:55,050
We shouldn't have got waxed the
way we did waxed the score ended
1149
01:00:55,050 --> 01:00:59,170
up looking a little bit better
than that game actually went for
1150
01:00:59,170 --> 01:01:02,370
much of the second-half.
I mean it was we'll come back at
1151
01:01:02,370 --> 01:01:06,130
the end there.
But yeah, Tally, what about you?
1152
01:01:06,130 --> 01:01:08,090
Was one thing we got to do
better moving forward.
1153
01:01:08,770 --> 01:01:12,250
I was going to say it earlier,
but you got to give Tooten.
1154
01:01:12,290 --> 01:01:15,370
You got to give Tooten more run.
I did say that part earlier.
1155
01:01:15,810 --> 01:01:19,690
I don't know man, Malachi just
he doesn't look the same as as I
1156
01:01:19,690 --> 01:01:22,770
remember him looking with just
how he's running.
1157
01:01:23,130 --> 01:01:25,810
So I don't know why we keep
trying to go back to him.
1158
01:01:26,210 --> 01:01:30,170
We haven't seen Chance Black, we
haven't seen Bryce Duke.
1159
01:01:30,530 --> 01:01:33,810
So if we're not going to see
them, you got to tell Tooten.
1160
01:01:33,810 --> 01:01:36,490
Look, man, if you're tired, just
fall down on the field.
1161
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,040
Because you're getting the ball
40 fucking times.
1162
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:43,240
If we if we if.
If we are moving the ball, you
1163
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:45,760
running it.
That's what's happening.
1164
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:48,560
Give him the ball, man.
Give him some runs.
1165
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:50,480
Yeah, where has Chance black
man?
1166
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:51,800
I feel like.
I feel like he's been walking
1167
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:53,560
for.
Nowhere right now.
1168
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:56,640
He's not been on any.
I don't think I've seen 28 on
1169
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:59,200
the field at all this year.
Now, where's David Cunningham
1170
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:00,800
when we need him?
David could pull up and tell us
1171
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,120
if he's had the staff.
David, if you're out there
1172
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:05,840
listening tonight, throw us in
the chat or text one of us.
1173
01:02:06,300 --> 01:02:09,060
All right, we are a third of the
way through the season at one
1174
01:02:09,060 --> 01:02:12,540
and four, obviously, if y'all
can't tell, we went on an hour
1175
01:02:12,540 --> 01:02:14,780
and 3 minutes.
We're pissed about the record,
1176
01:02:15,180 --> 01:02:17,300
we're pissed about all the
things happening, right?
1177
01:02:17,980 --> 01:02:20,260
Y'all are pissed.
We see it over here in the chat.
1178
01:02:20,380 --> 01:02:23,060
Y'all are pissed and there's
people out there not responding
1179
01:02:23,060 --> 01:02:26,020
that are sending Dms, Twitter,
Facebook.
1180
01:02:26,060 --> 01:02:29,740
Everybody's pissed right now.
So I wanna ask y'all this and?
1181
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:33,880
Who do I start with last time?
Ron.
1182
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:35,920
Mike, I'll start with you this
time.
1183
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:38,720
What's the one thing in the next
four games?
1184
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:44,280
You have to see I've harped
enough on the run, fits.
1185
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:48,040
Offensive, offensive, offensive
identity.
1186
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:50,160
What kind of team do you want to
be?
1187
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:52,720
I get that you have injuries at
receiver.
1188
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:56,360
You had an injury at quarterback
that changed the Staffs thinking
1189
01:02:56,400 --> 01:03:01,910
as far as you know what they can
and can't do, right, We got to
1190
01:03:01,910 --> 01:03:04,030
see some sort of offense by
daddy, right?
1191
01:03:04,030 --> 01:03:05,510
Jalen Lane.
I think it's starting to get
1192
01:03:05,510 --> 01:03:07,510
healthier.
Jennings is going to be out a
1193
01:03:07,510 --> 01:03:11,230
while.
But drones is the guy, right?
1194
01:03:11,230 --> 01:03:14,670
I mean, Wells can get healthy,
but in my opinion, drones is the
1195
01:03:14,670 --> 01:03:16,430
guy.
So what kind of offense do you
1196
01:03:16,430 --> 01:03:17,990
want to be under Kyron?
Drones.
1197
01:03:18,590 --> 01:03:21,070
Because you got to figure out
here in year two when you're
1198
01:03:21,070 --> 01:03:23,950
rebuilding, it's not going well.
You got to figure out, at least
1199
01:03:23,950 --> 01:03:25,950
on the offensive side, if Kyron
Drones is going to be your
1200
01:03:25,950 --> 01:03:27,750
quarterback moving forward.
That's what you got to decide
1201
01:03:27,750 --> 01:03:29,110
this year.
You got to figure that out.
1202
01:03:29,580 --> 01:03:31,500
If, if you're not going to come
out, if you're going to lose
1203
01:03:31,500 --> 01:03:34,300
every game, the rest of the
schedule, you at least got to
1204
01:03:34,300 --> 01:03:36,340
figure out who your quarterback
is going to be next year.
1205
01:03:36,900 --> 01:03:39,220
Because we already have an
inexperienced offensive
1206
01:03:39,220 --> 01:03:40,940
coordinator, we have an
inexperienced defensive
1207
01:03:40,940 --> 01:03:43,020
coordinator and we have a first
time head coach.
1208
01:03:43,220 --> 01:03:44,740
We can't miss on quarterback
too.
1209
01:03:44,860 --> 01:03:46,540
You got to figure out who your
quarterback's going to be.
1210
01:03:46,620 --> 01:03:49,100
So we got to figure out offense
by Daddy over the next four
1211
01:03:49,100 --> 01:03:51,140
games.
All right, Tally.
1212
01:03:51,140 --> 01:03:52,860
What about you, man?
What do you got to see the next
1213
01:03:52,860 --> 01:03:55,580
four games?
I just say making adjustments
1214
01:03:55,700 --> 01:03:57,540
quicker.
You know, I think I see some
1215
01:03:57,540 --> 01:04:01,320
adjustments on defense and.
Even offense in the fourth
1216
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:03,680
quarter, we've seen some
adjustments, but those
1217
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:06,120
adjustments have to be made a
lot quicker than they've been
1218
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:09,480
being made.
And it's like it's not stuff
1219
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:12,160
that's hard.
You know what I'm saying?
1220
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:14,720
I don't even say that.
Those two words that might keep
1221
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:17,360
saying bum, bum, you got to do
those.
1222
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:20,640
Like when you see those are
gone, you got to go talk and
1223
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:23,760
have those and correct them.
If somebody can't do that on the
1224
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:25,440
field, let's go to somebody
else.
1225
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:28,880
I'm okay with playing all
freshmen and losing every game.
1226
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:32,880
I I'm Okay with Kyron drones
losing every game.
1227
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:36,120
If we're trying to figure out
what we're doing moving forward,
1228
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:38,800
you know what I'm saying?
If we're putting in offensive
1229
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:41,640
lineman that are freshmen and
they're getting blew up because
1230
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:45,000
our seniors again blew up, Okay
well at least we got some run
1231
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:47,760
for next year.
We can, we can talk about the
1232
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:52,440
the youth movement, but I need
to see those adjustments being
1233
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:55,800
made much quicker than they are
in the games that we can at
1234
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:58,840
least have a chance to win.
Take a look.
1235
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:03,640
I said it on Twitter or X or
whatever the fuck we're calling
1236
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:06,640
it now.
Twitter You tweeted it.
1237
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:10,440
I'll say it again.
I need to see four quarters of
1238
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:13,360
competent coaching and play
execution.
1239
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:20,440
If you get beat, you get beat.
But when you are not executing
1240
01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:24,560
and when the coaches are not
correcting, when the coaches are
1241
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:26,960
going away from a game plan,
that's working.
1242
01:05:28,150 --> 01:05:30,910
Then that's not competent
quarterback play.
1243
01:05:30,910 --> 01:05:33,710
That's not competent coaching.
That's not competent execution
1244
01:05:33,710 --> 01:05:37,790
by the guys at the trenches, the
guys at the linebacker core.
1245
01:05:38,830 --> 01:05:42,430
I need to see four quarters of
that, win or lose, get your ass
1246
01:05:42,430 --> 01:05:44,910
beat.
Whatever it is, I I need the
1247
01:05:44,910 --> 01:05:46,710
product to look like it's
supposed to.
1248
01:05:47,230 --> 01:05:52,230
And to Mike's point earlier, you
know the offensive identity.
1249
01:05:52,230 --> 01:05:55,470
I felt like we had some of that
against Rutgers.
1250
01:05:55,710 --> 01:05:59,820
That was kind of if we could.
Take steps off of what that is.
1251
01:06:00,260 --> 01:06:04,060
I could live with that offense
because at least I know what
1252
01:06:04,060 --> 01:06:06,900
it's trying to do.
But could, but.
1253
01:06:06,940 --> 01:06:10,220
But we could probably live with
the offense that we saw on
1254
01:06:10,220 --> 01:06:12,780
those, what, four to five
drives?
1255
01:06:12,780 --> 01:06:16,220
At Marshall, it was like power
runs, taking shots, quick
1256
01:06:16,220 --> 01:06:18,020
slants.
It's like a little screen or
1257
01:06:18,020 --> 01:06:20,180
two.
OK, that's what you are.
1258
01:06:21,340 --> 01:06:23,700
You're almost like a jab, jab,
monster throw.
1259
01:06:24,060 --> 01:06:26,060
That's what you are.
You're not just slinging
1260
01:06:26,060 --> 01:06:30,240
haymakers all the time.
All right, I got one before we
1261
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:32,600
go to break here and mine is
it's kind of going to hinder
1262
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:35,840
what Tally said, make the right
personnel decisions regardless
1263
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:39,440
of winning or losing.
If a senior or junior is just
1264
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:41,920
not cutting it, what's Pete
saying there?
1265
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:48,280
Pete, we do something good.
Hold on.
1266
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:49,880
I'm gonna.
Mess with him right here, Pete.
1267
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:50,840
We're punting the ball.
Good.
1268
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:52,680
Peter Moore is booming the hell
out of it this year.
1269
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:54,870
He's.
If Peter Moore was kicking like
1270
01:06:54,870 --> 01:06:57,910
he was last year, we might have
lost a few games by more than
1271
01:06:57,910 --> 01:07:00,830
one score.
So for the 13 yard point, he did
1272
01:07:00,830 --> 01:07:01,470
what last?
Week.
1273
01:07:01,950 --> 01:07:03,470
Oh, you talk about the killer.
He said.
1274
01:07:03,470 --> 01:07:06,350
He said 22 punts this year that
have just been like,
1275
01:07:06,470 --> 01:07:08,790
uncharacteristically short, you
know what it was.
1276
01:07:08,790 --> 01:07:11,230
And then the rest have been
fucking boom sticks.
1277
01:07:11,470 --> 01:07:12,550
Yes.
Bad time, yeah.
1278
01:07:13,310 --> 01:07:16,110
Those two punts too, it's like
he was trying to kick him as
1279
01:07:16,110 --> 01:07:20,030
deep as possible and like it
land at the three and then zip
1280
01:07:20,030 --> 01:07:22,860
back and you're like.
Still inside the 15, he'd boom
1281
01:07:22,860 --> 01:07:25,980
the shit out of it, but make the
right personnel decisions if
1282
01:07:25,980 --> 01:07:27,420
there's juniors and seniors not
doing it.
1283
01:07:27,420 --> 01:07:29,620
Cuz right now I did the I did a
data dive.
1284
01:07:29,940 --> 01:07:34,540
Y'all offensively, snaps
counted. 50% are red shirt.
1285
01:07:34,540 --> 01:07:36,620
Sophomores are younger, 50% are
juniors.
1286
01:07:36,780 --> 01:07:41,460
Defense is 5347 with the older
guys, and that's an older guys
1287
01:07:41,460 --> 01:07:43,580
with a lot of them on the line.
And y'all know they do not
1288
01:07:43,580 --> 01:07:45,380
rotate as much as they do other
players.
1289
01:07:46,300 --> 01:07:48,660
You've got to make it right.
Brian's already called for
1290
01:07:48,660 --> 01:07:51,540
Meadows to write tackle.
I'll, I'll go one up on you,
1291
01:07:51,540 --> 01:07:52,820
Brian.
We've mentioned a few times on
1292
01:07:52,820 --> 01:07:55,700
this program and I don't know if
you've been listening to it.
1293
01:07:57,500 --> 01:07:59,940
Mike put Jack Hollyfield at
center.
1294
01:07:59,940 --> 01:08:02,420
Kate more back out to guard.
Yeah yeah you can't.
1295
01:08:02,420 --> 01:08:05,580
The the more experiment at
center is a, He's a.
1296
01:08:06,140 --> 01:08:09,940
I don't think it's a disaster.
I think he's OK, but he is a
1297
01:08:09,940 --> 01:08:15,250
dominant right guard.
If, look, I I will live, I will
1298
01:08:15,250 --> 01:08:17,890
live with having a young guy at
center because at least at that
1299
01:08:17,890 --> 01:08:19,569
point we'll have a good right
guard there.
1300
01:08:19,729 --> 01:08:22,569
You go right because right now
we don't have a good right guard
1301
01:08:22,569 --> 01:08:25,770
or a good center.
So at least get one position
1302
01:08:25,770 --> 01:08:26,970
right?
Yes, I heard.
1303
01:08:26,970 --> 01:08:28,370
I've, I've heard you guys talk
about that.
1304
01:08:28,370 --> 01:08:30,970
You're around the money.
By the way, this is a buddy we
1305
01:08:30,970 --> 01:08:35,090
went to high school with.
We got, we got.
1306
01:08:35,090 --> 01:08:37,370
Who's in the comments, man?
Who's in the comments?
1307
01:08:37,410 --> 01:08:41,000
Baby, Yeah, I don't know, Mario.
Mario we didn't know.
1308
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:44,120
We didn't know Mario for since
we were in, since I was in 7th
1309
01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:46,120
grade.
Since Brian was in 7th grade, a
1310
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:48,279
long, long time ago.
All right, y'all.
1311
01:08:48,279 --> 01:08:50,720
Before we get in to know the
enemy and we discussed the pit
1312
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:53,760
Panthers, we are going to take a
pause from our digital partners.
1313
01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:56,560
I can probably save you a lot of
money and I can take a lot
1314
01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:58,600
better care of you.
That's pretty much it.
1315
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:01,160
My name is Jeremy Counts and I'm
a pharmacist.
1316
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:03,800
I want to operate Main Street
Pharmacy here in downtown
1317
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:05,850
Blacksburg.
My brother's A pharmacist.
1318
01:09:05,890 --> 01:09:07,330
I'm a pharmacist.
My uncle's A pharmacist.
1319
01:09:07,330 --> 01:09:09,529
My dad's a pharmacist.
I remember he would give me M
1320
01:09:09,529 --> 01:09:12,010
and M's to count in little pill
counters.
1321
01:09:12,250 --> 01:09:14,850
This is something I've always
done and I'm just lucky that
1322
01:09:15,130 --> 01:09:18,490
what I know so well is something
that I can do and feel good
1323
01:09:18,490 --> 01:09:21,569
about it and get back to.
Pharmacies are your frontline
1324
01:09:21,569 --> 01:09:24,090
defense.
Pharmacy's job is to make sure
1325
01:09:24,090 --> 01:09:26,490
you're getting optimal care for
the lowest price possible.
1326
01:09:27,010 --> 01:09:29,810
Also, we take the pressure off
of emergency rooms.
1327
01:09:29,930 --> 01:09:31,689
I'll tell people immediately
when they need to go to the
1328
01:09:31,689 --> 01:09:33,890
doctor, or I'll tell them if
they just need a cream over the
1329
01:09:33,890 --> 01:09:36,000
counter.
If there's something that isn't
1330
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:38,640
commercially available, if it's
something that's not available
1331
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:41,200
in a certain strength or a
certain form or anything like
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Now back to the episode.
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01:10:13,670 --> 01:10:16,510
All right, we are back.
And now we flip our attention to
1344
01:10:16,510 --> 01:10:19,950
Saturday night.
Lane Stadium 8:00, ACC Network
1345
01:10:20,430 --> 01:10:25,710
against the pit Panthers also
one and three coming in and I
1346
01:10:25,710 --> 01:10:28,630
take a look here.
We got to know the enemy.
1347
01:10:30,290 --> 01:10:32,090
And we're going to talk on the
offense first.
1348
01:10:32,130 --> 01:10:34,210
Always like to start with the
offense first because it's a lot
1349
01:10:34,210 --> 01:10:36,530
more to discuss.
And Brian, let's talk about the
1350
01:10:36,530 --> 01:10:38,290
scheme.
We got Frank Signetti, someone
1351
01:10:38,290 --> 01:10:41,450
we're very familiar with,
running that offense up the pit.
1352
01:10:42,450 --> 01:10:46,250
Yeah, I mean, you're looking at
pro style scheme, got some RPO
1353
01:10:46,250 --> 01:10:48,410
elements mixed in there.
But it's, you know, pretty
1354
01:10:48,410 --> 01:10:49,970
straightforward Pro Style
scheme.
1355
01:10:50,410 --> 01:10:52,650
They they definitely thrive on
explosive plays.
1356
01:10:52,650 --> 01:10:54,090
They want to stretch you
downfield.
1357
01:10:54,090 --> 01:10:56,370
They want to hit you with the
big gasher in the running game.
1358
01:10:57,440 --> 01:11:00,920
They don't quite hit the home
run the same way they did last
1359
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:04,200
year and that's part of the
reason why they are one in three
1360
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:07,680
and not coming in at least at
500 or better because they're
1361
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:09,960
not hitting those explosive
plays, especially in the passing
1362
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:15,000
game.
Alrighty and and it is something
1363
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:18,520
they they also lost their home
run threat at running back.
1364
01:11:19,330 --> 01:11:22,450
And we know that very personally
from last year.
1365
01:11:22,450 --> 01:11:23,930
But let's talk about the
quarterbacks first.
1366
01:11:23,930 --> 01:11:27,730
Cuz right now, not a controversy
per se, but if y'all didn't see
1367
01:11:27,730 --> 01:11:30,850
that UNC game build Your covers
got the shit knocked out of him
1368
01:11:31,330 --> 01:11:34,490
in the second quarter of that
game, he was Koed for that game.
1369
01:11:36,490 --> 01:11:39,970
Christian Delu, the three star
who was originally committed to
1370
01:11:39,970 --> 01:11:41,930
Penn State.
Someone tech flirted with.
1371
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:47,480
In the offseason did come in, he
did not have a good game against
1372
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:50,960
UNC at all.
He threw 2 picks, he threw 45%,
1373
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:55,360
he looked not good at all and
you know Jakovich isn't having a
1374
01:11:55,360 --> 01:12:00,160
good season also this year, just
over 50% passing, 4 touchdowns,
1375
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:02,800
3 interceptions.
And the the worst part about
1376
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:04,520
this, I don't know if y'all have
been paying attention.
1377
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:08,040
He's their second leading
rusher, like in as far as the
1378
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:11,720
temps go.
And I know Phil's a big kid, but
1379
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:14,160
and you know Phil was an elite
guy coming out, he's and he has
1380
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:15,800
not lived up to those
expectations.
1381
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:20,040
So, Brian, I know you're going
to talk about them a little bit.
1382
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:21,800
Is there a lot of similarities
between these two?
1383
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:27,960
Guys, some.
I mean, obviously Christian's
1384
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:30,600
not a big body quarterback like
Phil.
1385
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:32,120
Phil Phil's definitely like
that.
1386
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:35,680
Ben Roethlisberger.
Light type quarterback, big
1387
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:38,520
body, little wiggle, decent
quickness.
1388
01:12:39,610 --> 01:12:44,370
But he he has a big arm likes to
take the shots down field, shows
1389
01:12:44,370 --> 01:12:48,410
accuracy at at most of the
levels of that those those shots
1390
01:12:48,410 --> 01:12:51,570
are pretty accurate but they
just haven't had the separation
1391
01:12:51,570 --> 01:12:54,850
of the playmakers outside to to
really take as much advantage of
1392
01:12:54,850 --> 01:12:58,330
that this year and really been
inefficient because of that and
1393
01:12:59,370 --> 01:13:03,290
but he had settled in a little
bit in that UNC game before he
1394
01:13:03,290 --> 01:13:07,810
got the shit knocked out of him.
All righty, Mike.
1395
01:13:08,550 --> 01:13:10,190
Who you expecting to see
Saturday night?
1396
01:13:11,950 --> 01:13:15,070
I mean, based on that hit, I'm
expecting to see Vayu, which I
1397
01:13:15,070 --> 01:13:17,430
think would be good news for
Virginia Tech, actually.
1398
01:13:17,430 --> 01:13:19,590
Because if you could find a
quarterback that has looked
1399
01:13:19,590 --> 01:13:22,750
worse than Phil Jarkovic, it's
Christian Vayu, at least in
1400
01:13:22,750 --> 01:13:25,750
limited in a limited sample
size, Jarkovic's been really
1401
01:13:25,750 --> 01:13:29,590
bad.
I don't know if it's his wrist
1402
01:13:29,590 --> 01:13:32,740
from two years ago or what.
He does not look right, you
1403
01:13:32,740 --> 01:13:35,540
know, throwing the football.
It just does not look like it
1404
01:13:35,540 --> 01:13:39,740
did in 2020 when he kind of
burst onto the scene for BCI
1405
01:13:39,740 --> 01:13:42,340
don't know what happened, but he
is just not even close to the
1406
01:13:42,340 --> 01:13:45,140
same guy.
So doesn't inspire a whole lot
1407
01:13:45,140 --> 01:13:47,380
of confidence.
You know, rolling him out there.
1408
01:13:48,260 --> 01:13:50,500
Bayou just didn't look
comfortable against North
1409
01:13:50,500 --> 01:13:54,100
Carolina through the two picks.
Very low completion percentage
1410
01:13:54,100 --> 01:13:57,260
did not look good.
I would expect to see Bayou.
1411
01:13:57,740 --> 01:13:59,740
I haven't seen any sort of like
practice reports or anything
1412
01:13:59,740 --> 01:14:01,140
like that.
So I don't know what your Kovic
1413
01:14:01,140 --> 01:14:06,420
situation is, but I think either
way, you know, if Pitt goes out
1414
01:14:06,420 --> 01:14:08,780
and throws for a million yards
in this game, it's an indictment
1415
01:14:08,780 --> 01:14:10,260
on Virginia Tech's defense,
right?
1416
01:14:10,260 --> 01:14:12,420
We talked about the secondary
and the fact that Tech hasn't.
1417
01:14:12,860 --> 01:14:14,940
Tech hasn't been stopping the
run, and that's why the past
1418
01:14:14,940 --> 01:14:17,740
defense is ranked how it is.
We all think there's talent, the
1419
01:14:17,740 --> 01:14:20,820
secondary, no question about it.
But you know, this is one of
1420
01:14:20,820 --> 01:14:23,100
those games where pit's going to
try to throw it a little bit
1421
01:14:23,100 --> 01:14:25,980
here.
And if they're completing passes
1422
01:14:25,980 --> 01:14:27,940
deep down the field with these
quarterbacks, with how they've
1423
01:14:27,940 --> 01:14:31,540
looked so far, it's bad news.
Big time, Big time.
1424
01:14:32,090 --> 01:14:35,410
And you know talking more about
the you, you know he struggled
1425
01:14:35,410 --> 01:14:39,130
with that ball placement and
decision making, not as
1426
01:14:39,130 --> 01:14:42,410
efficient with the deep ball as
as Jacobic was at his height.
1427
01:14:43,570 --> 01:14:46,090
Really not, not even in that
ballpark with what we've seen
1428
01:14:46,090 --> 01:14:49,690
from him so far this year, which
is significantly diminished.
1429
01:14:49,690 --> 01:14:52,730
But I think from from Jacobic's
standpoint, I think a lot of
1430
01:14:52,730 --> 01:14:57,370
it's starting to get mental like
he does not handle a pass rush
1431
01:14:57,850 --> 01:15:01,340
very well anymore and I think.
Between the injuries to the
1432
01:15:01,340 --> 01:15:04,260
wrist, the injuries he had last
year and getting really beat up
1433
01:15:04,700 --> 01:15:09,860
behind that really pretty awful
pass pro from that BC offensive
1434
01:15:09,860 --> 01:15:12,620
line last year, he's he looks
kind of shell shocked.
1435
01:15:12,620 --> 01:15:15,060
So he just doesn't seem like the
same type of quarterback.
1436
01:15:16,460 --> 01:15:20,540
You know he showed some
willingness to run early in the
1437
01:15:20,660 --> 01:15:23,980
in that that second-half they
really went away from the,
1438
01:15:23,980 --> 01:15:26,460
especially after he put the ball
on the ground with that that
1439
01:15:26,460 --> 01:15:31,740
snap exchange.
I'd say he's decent athleticism,
1440
01:15:31,740 --> 01:15:35,100
probably a little more athletic
kind of getting out of the
1441
01:15:35,100 --> 01:15:38,980
pocket then maybe a Grant Wells
but not the the kind of the top
1442
01:15:38,980 --> 01:15:41,860
end that you would see from from
a guy like drones kind of
1443
01:15:41,860 --> 01:15:45,860
getting outside there.
So he he will run, but he didn't
1444
01:15:45,860 --> 01:15:48,780
run very much very effectively
in in the second-half there
1445
01:15:48,780 --> 01:15:51,820
after he had a couple couple
decent attempts kind of start
1446
01:15:51,820 --> 01:15:54,980
that that second-half off.
Tell any questions you think you
1447
01:15:54,980 --> 01:15:57,020
want to add about the
quarterback situation up a pit
1448
01:15:57,020 --> 01:16:01,180
we will see this weekend.
We need to worry about who the
1449
01:16:01,180 --> 01:16:02,860
running backs.
All right.
1450
01:16:04,100 --> 01:16:06,100
That's all I want to hear about.
Here we go.
1451
01:16:06,660 --> 01:16:09,380
He he what a great segue.
Tally knows how to do this like
1452
01:16:09,380 --> 01:16:12,620
he's been doing a few years.
Professional, professional,
1453
01:16:12,620 --> 01:16:13,980
professional and.
You know, so, he said.
1454
01:16:13,980 --> 01:16:16,020
Fucking quarterbacks.
Let's hear the running backs.
1455
01:16:16,020 --> 01:16:19,700
They worry.
About yeah, Tally.
1456
01:16:19,700 --> 01:16:21,380
What what did what did what did
Mike say?
1457
01:16:21,380 --> 01:16:24,420
58 1/2 yards a carry on 2
carries.
1458
01:16:24,820 --> 01:16:26,140
We ain't worried about throwing
the ball.
1459
01:16:26,620 --> 01:16:29,060
Rodney Hammond Junior is the guy
we want to worry about.
1460
01:16:29,100 --> 01:16:33,780
A Virginia kid from Norfolk
class in 20/21, he was an 87
1461
01:16:33,780 --> 01:16:36,020
ranked guy.
He was a top 15 player in the
1462
01:16:36,020 --> 01:16:40,460
state on the composite top 2247
and you know his career he's
1463
01:16:40,460 --> 01:16:43,460
been there, you know, for a
couple years.
1464
01:16:44,580 --> 01:16:47,380
He was sitting behind Izzy about
a condo.
1465
01:16:47,820 --> 01:16:50,260
That's the name I'll never
forget in all my years.
1466
01:16:50,460 --> 01:16:52,460
Had a little run last year.
But Brian?
1467
01:16:53,020 --> 01:16:56,620
Just me looking at it and
looking at the data, they
1468
01:16:56,620 --> 01:17:00,340
haven't really decided like if
he's the guy because everybody
1469
01:17:00,340 --> 01:17:01,980
on that back field is going to
get a little bit of run.
1470
01:17:03,060 --> 01:17:04,500
Yeah, everybody's been getting a
little run.
1471
01:17:04,860 --> 01:17:08,540
He's he's an interesting back.
He's he shows pretty good vision
1472
01:17:08,540 --> 01:17:11,860
between the tackles.
I think the thing that probably
1473
01:17:11,860 --> 01:17:14,620
stands out the most is that he's
he's very much that type of back
1474
01:17:14,620 --> 01:17:18,140
that's going to fight for those
extra yards, especially for a
1475
01:17:18,140 --> 01:17:22,370
guy his size hard to bring down.
Not as explosive at the second
1476
01:17:22,410 --> 01:17:27,770
level as we saw from Izzy last
year, so in theory we shouldn't
1477
01:17:27,770 --> 01:17:31,210
be giving up 300 yards rushing
to to to a player this year.
1478
01:17:32,610 --> 01:17:37,970
So in theory, but I will say
Hammond is probably better out
1479
01:17:37,970 --> 01:17:40,250
of the backfield catching the
ball and making stuff happen in
1480
01:17:40,250 --> 01:17:43,970
space than that Izzy was in on
that regard.
1481
01:17:43,970 --> 01:17:47,810
So look for him to catch a a few
balls out of the backfield.
1482
01:17:48,260 --> 01:17:49,940
He's done that a couple times
this year.
1483
01:17:50,540 --> 01:17:53,580
Remember looking at the tape
last year, the West Virginia
1484
01:17:53,580 --> 01:17:56,820
game where he had a big
reception bill for a touchdown
1485
01:17:56,820 --> 01:18:01,220
in that game.
So he's got that capability, but
1486
01:18:02,020 --> 01:18:04,860
it's just it's if we can get our
run fits, we should be all
1487
01:18:04,860 --> 01:18:07,260
right, which is I'm not very
confident about.
1488
01:18:08,220 --> 01:18:10,100
I'm not confident at all Mike
Tally.
1489
01:18:10,100 --> 01:18:11,300
I'll get anything from Brian
here.
1490
01:18:11,300 --> 01:18:14,940
Anything y'all want to add about
Rodney Hammond or any of the
1491
01:18:15,140 --> 01:18:18,170
running backs down at Pitt?
He's a good player.
1492
01:18:18,170 --> 01:18:20,410
Just tackle.
Just tackle him.
1493
01:18:20,930 --> 01:18:22,970
And that's the point.
It's just tackling cuz we're
1494
01:18:22,970 --> 01:18:24,290
hearing right there what Brian
said.
1495
01:18:24,290 --> 01:18:27,610
He's not the burner.
Ali is a burner.
1496
01:18:27,850 --> 01:18:29,250
You say what you wanna say,
Racine.
1497
01:18:29,250 --> 01:18:31,570
Holly is a burner.
He gets upfield, he gets the
1498
01:18:31,570 --> 01:18:34,280
gap, he can go.
I'd be interested.
1499
01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:36,000
Listen for Fleameister and
Carter.
1500
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:38,760
Those are other two guys have
been getting run in their
1501
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:42,200
backfield.
They only trail Hammond by about
1502
01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:44,800
17 carries.
So if you do the math over four
1503
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:48,000
games, that's only about four
different carries a game.
1504
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:51,520
And I know Hammond's biggest
game came against you and see
1505
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:54,840
where you got 89 yards on about
15 carries.
1506
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:58,240
And they've historically been
kind of a ride with the hot
1507
01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:02,580
handed running back type team.
You know, we saw that Hammond
1508
01:19:02,580 --> 01:19:04,380
was kind of the hot, hot hand
against.
1509
01:19:05,460 --> 01:19:08,940
Yeah, some of the tape I watched
last year with with with Pitt,
1510
01:19:09,660 --> 01:19:11,900
they rode him a couple games.
I know a Band of Canada was
1511
01:19:11,900 --> 01:19:16,620
banged up one of those, but they
they have a willingness to ride
1512
01:19:16,620 --> 01:19:19,340
whatever is working in the
running back game.
1513
01:19:19,340 --> 01:19:23,020
So you know, if if it's working,
they're going to keep that guy
1514
01:19:23,020 --> 01:19:24,580
and unless he needs to come off
for a blow all.
1515
01:19:25,620 --> 01:19:28,900
Right, let's flip next and let's
go to.
1516
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:34,640
Con Kanata mumfield boom nailed
to Curtis.
1517
01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:37,080
Yeah, really.
Usually I screw those up
1518
01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:41,520
completely.
So you know a 6 foot, 175 pound
1519
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:48,400
wide out came to pit fight of
the transfer portal I believe
1520
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:51,960
from Akron, right?
They come from Akron, they came
1521
01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:57,160
from Akron and so far this year
leading the team 16 receptions.
1522
01:19:57,860 --> 01:20:01,260
He only has 183 yards.
Yep, it was Akron.
1523
01:20:01,660 --> 01:20:05,740
Thank goodness I got that right.
Got 500 yards last year over
1524
01:20:05,740 --> 01:20:09,380
about right about 60 receptions.
So he does look like he is
1525
01:20:09,380 --> 01:20:12,220
there, sort of.
Is he their number one Brian or
1526
01:20:12,220 --> 01:20:13,900
is he just a part of the
offense?
1527
01:20:14,820 --> 01:20:19,380
He's their number one wide out,
but they have, again, they
1528
01:20:19,380 --> 01:20:22,140
haven't had a ton of success in
the passing game so far this
1529
01:20:22,140 --> 01:20:24,620
year.
So he's kind of more of their
1530
01:20:24,620 --> 01:20:28,800
stick mover, not really
consistent deep threat.
1531
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:32,080
Again, they haven't really
established that this year the
1532
01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:34,160
way they have in the, you know,
the years past when they've been
1533
01:20:34,160 --> 01:20:38,360
a little bit of a better, a
better passing team and he does
1534
01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:40,920
most of his eating in that kind
of short to intermediate range.
1535
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:45,280
They'll use them on screen
slants occasionally see a dig
1536
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:47,480
here and there so that that's
kind of his bread and butter.
1537
01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:49,800
So he's mostly a guy that
they're going to use to move the
1538
01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:51,800
sticks.
The next guy we're going to talk
1539
01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:53,880
about is kind of the guy that
they've taken most of the shots
1540
01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:56,510
with this year.
Who's that tally?
1541
01:20:56,750 --> 01:20:59,990
So the next guy is there tied in
Gavin Bartholomew.
1542
01:21:00,510 --> 01:21:05,470
He was a three star, a three
star athlete out of I'm not even
1543
01:21:05,470 --> 01:21:11,430
going to try to say the name
somewhere in PA class of 2021.
1544
01:21:13,630 --> 01:21:15,830
One second here I had it pulled
up.
1545
01:21:17,150 --> 01:21:21,270
Like Brian said, they've been
using him and kind of taking
1546
01:21:21,270 --> 01:21:28,400
shots with him.
He is right at about. 216 I
1547
01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:32,840
believe on yardage this year,
getting it pulled back up here,
1548
01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:34,800
right?
So he's he's on pace for
1549
01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:36,720
somewhere around 700 yards
receiving.
1550
01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:41,520
Yeah he's a big big target at
65250.
1551
01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:48,320
Big, big tight in he's yeah, 9
receptions, 260 yards having
1552
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:52,640
right at 24.
Yeah, right, At 24 yard a catch
1553
01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:54,990
and.
Yeah, willfully.
1554
01:21:55,590 --> 01:22:01,950
Yeah, one touchdown already.
And again from last year, just,
1555
01:22:01,990 --> 01:22:04,070
you know, going over his year to
year.
1556
01:22:04,630 --> 01:22:13,230
Last year he had 21 catches for
283 over the whole season and
1557
01:22:13,230 --> 01:22:15,030
two touchdowns.
And this year, he's already got
1558
01:22:15,030 --> 01:22:18,550
216.
Yeah, and some of that is the
1559
01:22:18,550 --> 01:22:21,550
fact that the the wide receiver
group has dropped off a little
1560
01:22:21,550 --> 01:22:22,870
bit.
Some of that is just he's
1561
01:22:22,870 --> 01:22:27,750
developed into a better player.
He's like a slightly bigger Kobe
1562
01:22:27,750 --> 01:22:30,270
Flaner.
I don't want to bring up Ghost
1563
01:22:30,270 --> 01:22:35,430
of Bowl Games Pass, but kind of
reminds me of that in terms of
1564
01:22:35,430 --> 01:22:37,550
the way he plays and the way he
likes to get up the scene.
1565
01:22:37,550 --> 01:22:41,190
They use him a lot at the scene.
They'll throw those kind of slot
1566
01:22:41,190 --> 01:22:46,030
fades, deep crossers, tight in
wheels, that that's really his
1567
01:22:46,030 --> 01:22:47,950
bread and butter.
That's where he's been getting a
1568
01:22:47,950 --> 01:22:52,310
lot of that yardage.
So definitely more of a big play
1569
01:22:52,310 --> 01:22:55,110
threat than the typical stick
move, stick mover, red zone
1570
01:22:55,110 --> 01:22:57,030
threat that you see from your
typical tight ends.
1571
01:22:58,110 --> 01:23:00,790
And I'd say he's deceptively
athletic that when you look at
1572
01:23:00,790 --> 01:23:03,950
him on tape, he doesn't look
like very unassuming in terms of
1573
01:23:03,950 --> 01:23:06,790
his athleticism, but it kind of
it, it jumps off the more you
1574
01:23:06,790 --> 01:23:09,760
watch.
Absolutely.
1575
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:12,080
All right, let's quickly hit
their offensive line.
1576
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:14,880
And Mike, let me hit you with
this before Brian breaks into
1577
01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:17,240
it.
It was announced yesterday all
1578
01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:20,640
ACC tackle Matt Doncavas is out
for the season.
1579
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:23,880
Killer hat.
I mean, how big of a loss is
1580
01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:26,240
that for Pitt right now?
Big deal cuz they have a pretty
1581
01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:28,080
good offensive line.
It's a killer.
1582
01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:32,960
You lose an all conference
lineman at those.
1583
01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:34,440
Those aren't easy to replace,
right?
1584
01:23:34,440 --> 01:23:36,880
I mean, we're talking about the
Virginia Tech offensive line
1585
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:40,160
and.
There's nobody, there's nobody
1586
01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:42,280
sniffing that, right?
So it's true.
1587
01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:45,640
Yeah, it's it's an absolute
killer and and Pitt does have a
1588
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:48,040
pretty decent offensive line.
They've gotten better as the
1589
01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:51,520
seasons gone along too.
And you know, we could talk
1590
01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:53,840
about the issues with Jacobic
and everything else and and the
1591
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:56,120
run game issues.
That has kind of been with him.
1592
01:23:56,120 --> 01:23:57,680
It's kind of been fits and
starts this year.
1593
01:23:58,440 --> 01:24:01,400
But I chalk that up more to play
calling than the actual
1594
01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:02,920
offensive line.
The offensive line is pretty
1595
01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:05,680
solid.
Yeah, that was my take away to
1596
01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:07,120
looking at them.
I mean, they're not elite.
1597
01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:10,600
You know, Kyle was definitely
the the most elite on that line.
1598
01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:12,920
But it just as a unit, they're
not really that elite, but very
1599
01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:15,960
solid across the board.
They do really well to get to
1600
01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:18,440
the second level, which you
know, doesn't really bode well
1601
01:24:18,440 --> 01:24:21,120
for some of the problems we've
had with run fits.
1602
01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:22,720
If they're getting to the second
level, getting on our
1603
01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:27,800
linebackers, we're back to
having a former wide receiver
1604
01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:29,680
being the guy that's coming up
to make that play that's going
1605
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:34,530
to stop a potential touchdown.
So spooky hours a little bit
1606
01:24:34,530 --> 01:24:39,570
there, but you know, definitely
the guy was going out.
1607
01:24:39,570 --> 01:24:41,130
That's going to be a big knock
to them.
1608
01:24:41,130 --> 01:24:44,290
We'll see how that impacts pass
pro, we'll see how that, how
1609
01:24:44,290 --> 01:24:47,370
that impacts their running game.
So definitely a big loss.
1610
01:24:47,370 --> 01:24:51,570
So we'll see if that that turns
out to be something that, you
1611
01:24:51,570 --> 01:24:53,010
know, rears its head in this
game.
1612
01:24:53,450 --> 01:24:55,850
Before we flip over to defense,
Brian, what do you think it
1613
01:24:55,850 --> 01:24:58,610
affects more with them?
You watch some of the tape the
1614
01:24:58,610 --> 01:25:01,170
last few days.
I mean, because you're talking
1615
01:25:01,170 --> 01:25:02,810
about them getting to the second
level.
1616
01:25:03,510 --> 01:25:06,590
I sit here and think, if you've
got an elite left tackle, a lot
1617
01:25:06,590 --> 01:25:08,030
of guys don't have to think
right.
1618
01:25:08,590 --> 01:25:10,710
Those interior guys don't have
to think about anything.
1619
01:25:10,710 --> 01:25:14,350
It's like he's got it.
I don't need to worry about him
1620
01:25:15,070 --> 01:25:17,310
and it makes it easy.
I know you play with a really
1621
01:25:17,310 --> 01:25:20,110
good left tackle at Sydney and I
know for you it was just like,
1622
01:25:20,710 --> 01:25:24,550
get the fuck up field.
Yeah, I mean, Jared, Jared
1623
01:25:24,550 --> 01:25:27,830
Stearns was locked down, so I
didn't have to worry about him.
1624
01:25:27,830 --> 01:25:30,590
But I'd say it hurts more on the
pass pro, especially if you're
1625
01:25:30,590 --> 01:25:35,600
rolling Christian out there
instead of Phil because you're
1626
01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:38,120
already having a quarterback
that probably isn't fully
1627
01:25:38,120 --> 01:25:42,360
comfortable in the pocket.
It didn't show that in the game
1628
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:46,080
against you and C very
uncomfortable with the pocket at
1629
01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:49,840
times.
So not having your all
1630
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:52,600
conference left tackle out there
definitely doesn't inspire any
1631
01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:54,680
any additional confidence.
So I feel like that's going to
1632
01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:56,720
be where the you'll see the
impact the most, but it'll
1633
01:25:56,720 --> 01:25:58,160
definitely impact the run game
as well.
1634
01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:00,600
All righty, all righty good
deal.
1635
01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:03,240
All right, we're going to flip
over to the defensive side of
1636
01:26:03,240 --> 01:26:07,560
the ball now and let's talk
about this defense led by Randy
1637
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:10,040
Bates.
Brian cuz I I read what you put
1638
01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:16,000
in here and I'm, I'm sorry man.
I I got I put my own little
1639
01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:18,520
notes in there just to, like,
make sure I talk the right
1640
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:24,280
amount of shit.
Go ahead, say it.
1641
01:26:24,790 --> 01:26:27,030
All right, so, so, so we got, we
got Randy Bates.
1642
01:26:27,030 --> 01:26:32,270
I mean, he's the coordinator,
but obviously this is the Pat
1643
01:26:32,270 --> 01:26:35,070
Narduzzi invented attacking 4
three defense.
1644
01:26:38,790 --> 01:26:41,710
So something that all of us are
familiar with.
1645
01:26:41,750 --> 01:26:45,910
And obviously Pat Narduzzi is
very excited that he was able to
1646
01:26:45,950 --> 01:26:47,470
put something like this together
for everyone.
1647
01:26:48,430 --> 01:26:50,270
But they do love bringing the
pressure to rush the
1648
01:26:50,270 --> 01:26:52,790
quarterbacks and confuse the
offensive line.
1649
01:26:53,540 --> 01:26:55,860
You're going to see a lot of man
and man outside.
1650
01:26:57,340 --> 01:26:59,500
We're used to that.
When we play pit it's going to
1651
01:26:59,500 --> 01:27:01,900
be you're going to have to win
those one-on-one battles if
1652
01:27:01,900 --> 01:27:03,260
we're going to be successful in
the passing game.
1653
01:27:04,940 --> 01:27:08,180
They will give a big plays
because of that aggressiveness,
1654
01:27:08,940 --> 01:27:10,420
you know.
So if we can catch them in a in
1655
01:27:10,420 --> 01:27:14,060
a bad blitz, we can catch them
in some mismatches and man
1656
01:27:14,060 --> 01:27:15,940
coverage.
We can take some advantage all.
1657
01:27:17,180 --> 01:27:18,220
Right.
Let's talk about some of the
1658
01:27:18,220 --> 01:27:21,980
players on this defense.
Let's talk with Day on Hayes.
1659
01:27:22,510 --> 01:27:28,350
A6 foot three ��265 defensive end
top 200 play when he got
1660
01:27:28,350 --> 01:27:32,030
recruited by 247 back in the
class of 2020 out of Pittsburgh,
1661
01:27:32,030 --> 01:27:39,350
PA out of Westinghouse and you
know so far this season for Mr.
1662
01:27:40,990 --> 01:27:44,710
Hayes. 8 tackles, two sides, 2
pass deflected.
1663
01:27:45,110 --> 01:27:47,350
All he's looking past deflected
and talk about it with defensive
1664
01:27:47,350 --> 01:27:51,350
end, because that means they're
not just here, they understand.
1665
01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:53,920
You you see, it's about to fire.
Just get your hand up.
1666
01:27:54,440 --> 01:27:55,600
What you say say that again,
Tally?
1667
01:27:55,880 --> 01:27:57,520
Get them hands up.
Get them up.
1668
01:27:58,280 --> 01:28:04,440
So Brian when you when you took
a look at him, what did you see
1669
01:28:04,520 --> 01:28:07,920
and what can we do?
And dear Lord is he going to be
1670
01:28:07,920 --> 01:28:11,640
on seven knows side.
I mean talent wise I mean he's a
1671
01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:14,160
balanced the end and he is going
to be on seven knows side most
1672
01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:17,840
of the time unfortunately
balanced the end.
1673
01:28:17,840 --> 01:28:21,710
He's really good against the run
good as a pass rusher so that's
1674
01:28:21,710 --> 01:28:25,030
a really good edge doesn't get
fooled often on kind of those
1675
01:28:25,030 --> 01:28:26,990
backside contain rolls that you
might see.
1676
01:28:26,990 --> 01:28:31,510
So you know we ran we finally
ran something we already ended
1677
01:28:31,510 --> 01:28:33,510
around last week.
I don't think he's going to be
1678
01:28:33,510 --> 01:28:36,510
be fooled on that he's going to
sit there read and be in the
1679
01:28:36,510 --> 01:28:37,870
right position to make that
play.
1680
01:28:39,070 --> 01:28:41,030
They do something interesting
with him though they like when
1681
01:28:41,030 --> 01:28:43,870
they go nickel he kind of turns
into a roaming linebacker
1682
01:28:43,870 --> 01:28:46,510
depending on what the the
defensive front call is.
1683
01:28:46,510 --> 01:28:51,210
He'll kind of work in there
standing in the backfield, blitz
1684
01:28:51,210 --> 01:28:54,650
B gap, blitz A gap, sometimes
blitz out around the edge.
1685
01:28:54,650 --> 01:28:56,970
So they kind of use them a
little bit differently there in
1686
01:28:56,970 --> 01:28:58,730
those nickel sets.
So that's really interesting to
1687
01:28:58,730 --> 01:29:01,890
watch.
And you know, in terms of tone
1688
01:29:01,890 --> 01:29:04,050
setter, I mean he got out there
and forced to fumble early
1689
01:29:04,050 --> 01:29:07,170
against you and see the kind of
set the tone for that team and
1690
01:29:07,170 --> 01:29:10,730
you know, put them in contention
in the first, first half before
1691
01:29:10,730 --> 01:29:13,410
Phil went down and you and see
kind of ran away with that the
1692
01:29:13,410 --> 01:29:20,660
second-half.
All right, good deal there.
1693
01:29:21,700 --> 01:29:25,860
Obviously if there is a change
this week on that side, it would
1694
01:29:25,860 --> 01:29:28,140
be interesting to see because it
does sound like it would be a
1695
01:29:28,140 --> 01:29:31,380
good test if there was a new
offensive lineman out there.
1696
01:29:31,740 --> 01:29:34,340
I want to talk about one of the
linebackers next prime that
1697
01:29:34,780 --> 01:29:39,260
caught my eye on the stat sheet
along with who he is and that is
1698
01:29:39,260 --> 01:29:45,900
Solomon Deshields, 6 foot tall,
��230 linebacker.
1699
01:29:46,660 --> 01:29:52,140
Out of Millville, NJ was a mid
three star when he came out back
1700
01:29:52,140 --> 01:29:58,060
in the class of 2020 and so far
this year 21 tackles, 3 tackles
1701
01:29:58,060 --> 01:30:01,540
for loss in a sack.
Where are we seeing him line up?
1702
01:30:01,780 --> 01:30:04,180
You know they they obviously
have lost some linebackers the
1703
01:30:04,180 --> 01:30:06,300
last few years.
Who's he wrote.
1704
01:30:06,660 --> 01:30:08,060
What's he effectively doing
there?
1705
01:30:08,700 --> 01:30:12,180
Yeah, he's their outside
linebacker essentially the will
1706
01:30:12,180 --> 01:30:13,620
in this, in this type of
defense.
1707
01:30:15,480 --> 01:30:17,520
He's a he's a he's their blitz
specialist.
1708
01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:19,680
He's the guy that they're
bringing on a lot of those blitz
1709
01:30:19,680 --> 01:30:23,960
calls really good and pursuit
attacks the gap really well,
1710
01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:29,600
unlike some of our our
linebackers that we've seen this
1711
01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:32,160
year so far.
So he does a pretty good job
1712
01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:33,880
there.
Good and run fit
1713
01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:37,040
responsibilities.
Where he can get lost is when he
1714
01:30:37,040 --> 01:30:40,040
asked to cover in the passing
game, especially in zone.
1715
01:30:40,840 --> 01:30:43,460
Not very good there.
So usually that's why you see
1716
01:30:43,460 --> 01:30:45,180
him on passing down.
They're trying to bring him as
1717
01:30:45,180 --> 01:30:49,260
that fifth or sixth guy coming
off the edge on the pass rush.
1718
01:30:51,820 --> 01:30:53,660
All righty.
Good deal.
1719
01:30:53,660 --> 01:30:57,580
There Again, it's one of those
things we're gonna talk about in
1720
01:30:57,580 --> 01:31:00,100
Keys in a little while here.
What do we do against this team?
1721
01:31:00,740 --> 01:31:02,820
What do we do against this team
and you hear somebody like him
1722
01:31:02,820 --> 01:31:05,500
struggling in coverage, is do we
have to mix it up with the past?
1723
01:31:05,820 --> 01:31:09,380
But Tally, we got one more guy
we want to talk about, someone
1724
01:31:09,380 --> 01:31:11,020
I'm sure is familiar to
everybody.
1725
01:31:13,220 --> 01:31:15,860
Or of us sick?
Obviously should be near and
1726
01:31:15,860 --> 01:31:22,140
dear to a lot of hokey fans.
Donovan McMillan, He came out of
1727
01:31:22,140 --> 01:31:26,980
high school, went to Florida.
A lot of hokey fans, for some
1728
01:31:26,980 --> 01:31:30,180
reason, thought we were close to
getting him.
1729
01:31:30,910 --> 01:31:33,510
Then he goes to Florida, doesn't
work out there and guess what?
1730
01:31:33,510 --> 01:31:35,950
He transfers.
A lot of hokey fans went down
1731
01:31:35,950 --> 01:31:37,910
that road again and thought we
were going to get him when he
1732
01:31:37,910 --> 01:31:40,910
transferred from Florida.
No, he didn't.
1733
01:31:41,070 --> 01:31:43,430
He transferred to Pitt.
He is a PA kid.
1734
01:31:43,430 --> 01:31:48,270
He's from there.
He was a four-star guy coming
1735
01:31:48,270 --> 01:31:50,870
out of high school.
Offers from all over.
1736
01:31:51,190 --> 01:31:56,670
You know Georgia list goes to
Florida, list goes on and on of
1737
01:31:57,150 --> 01:31:58,710
all the people that wanted this
kid.
1738
01:31:59,120 --> 01:32:03,800
Very talented, says This year
he's got about 32 tackles.
1739
01:32:04,720 --> 01:32:09,120
What I thought was interesting,
I mean he's 6 to 210, so a
1740
01:32:09,120 --> 01:32:12,640
bigger safety.
What I what I thought was
1741
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:17,880
interesting was in that West
Virginia game he had 18 tackles,
1742
01:32:18,680 --> 01:32:24,320
9 solo and 9 assisted.
So the reason I say I find that
1743
01:32:25,720 --> 01:32:28,930
interesting is.
Are they getting to that second
1744
01:32:28,930 --> 01:32:30,690
level?
Is he coming downhill?
1745
01:32:31,290 --> 01:32:33,570
How is he getting in on all
these tackles, Brian?
1746
01:32:35,090 --> 01:32:37,090
Yeah, man.
Let's start by saying, you know,
1747
01:32:38,010 --> 01:32:39,930
DMC is the one that got away,
man.
1748
01:32:41,250 --> 01:32:45,730
He's the one that got away.
I feel like we've all been
1749
01:32:45,730 --> 01:32:47,370
chatting.
I think when he was getting
1750
01:32:47,370 --> 01:32:52,410
recruited in, he was one of
those infamous silent commits
1751
01:32:54,410 --> 01:32:57,170
that didn't quite turn out the
way we wanted it to.
1752
01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:03,800
And you know, I had dreams of
dropping DeLorean means every
1753
01:33:03,800 --> 01:33:07,200
time this kid made a big play
and I didn't get to do that.
1754
01:33:07,200 --> 01:33:10,680
So I'm very disappointed.
But really good player, man,
1755
01:33:10,680 --> 01:33:13,400
Great in pursuit, covers ground
really fast.
1756
01:33:14,640 --> 01:33:17,400
They use them a lot as kind of
that middle third in the single
1757
01:33:17,400 --> 01:33:20,080
high, kind of the half field
safety in their primary
1758
01:33:20,080 --> 01:33:23,120
coverages.
So there's a lot of Cover 3,
1759
01:33:23,120 --> 01:33:25,640
Cover one, Cover 6.
So he kind of plays that role
1760
01:33:25,640 --> 01:33:29,170
for them in those and those
coverages and I'd say he's
1761
01:33:29,170 --> 01:33:33,730
better against the run, but he's
still very active, sorry, better
1762
01:33:33,730 --> 01:33:35,930
against the past, but he's still
active in run support.
1763
01:33:36,530 --> 01:33:43,450
So just a solid all around
player and really I'd say elite
1764
01:33:43,450 --> 01:33:45,530
in kind of playing that deep
third coverage.
1765
01:33:47,490 --> 01:33:48,610
All righty.
So.
1766
01:33:48,610 --> 01:33:51,650
Brian, let's ask this like Tally
was talking about here before we
1767
01:33:51,650 --> 01:33:54,830
get to hokey keys.
Is it downhill?
1768
01:33:54,830 --> 01:33:57,070
Is that where he's making his
tackles or is he coming up in
1769
01:33:57,070 --> 01:33:59,070
the box?
Or is he just, is he all over
1770
01:33:59,070 --> 01:34:02,230
the place or they let him free
roam especially so thinking
1771
01:34:02,230 --> 01:34:05,550
about you know what West
Virginia does, you know they
1772
01:34:05,670 --> 01:34:08,390
he's coming up and making a lot
of plays in those passes and in
1773
01:34:08,390 --> 01:34:10,950
the run game.
So it's more in the passing game
1774
01:34:10,950 --> 01:34:13,630
that shot a quick passing game,
he's coming up and making those
1775
01:34:13,630 --> 01:34:15,990
plays there.
So that that's why you're seeing
1776
01:34:15,990 --> 01:34:18,230
a little bit more volume pick up
against a team like that.
1777
01:34:20,390 --> 01:34:22,870
I am very sorry, Brian.
We are over here chuckling.
1778
01:34:22,870 --> 01:34:25,470
You can take a look at the
private chat now because we we,
1779
01:34:25,470 --> 01:34:29,070
we were reminiscing back from
three years ago in 2020 with
1780
01:34:29,830 --> 01:34:33,550
with with DMC there.
All right, all right.
1781
01:34:33,550 --> 01:34:36,390
So that is pit lot of players
you should know.
1782
01:34:36,390 --> 01:34:39,910
Obviously we can't cover them
all, but we're going to get to
1783
01:34:39,910 --> 01:34:42,630
the Hokie keys now.
As always, we have 4 Hokie keys.
1784
01:34:42,630 --> 01:34:46,710
I'm going to let our guest, Mike
McDaniel lead us with the key.
1785
01:34:46,710 --> 01:34:48,550
He felt most important this
week.
1786
01:34:49,700 --> 01:34:51,980
Let drones cook in the running
game.
1787
01:34:52,740 --> 01:34:56,060
Let him cook I.
Agree.
1788
01:34:56,420 --> 01:34:58,940
It does not have to be.
I've mentioned this earlier
1789
01:34:58,940 --> 01:35:00,420
tonight.
Does not have to be difficult.
1790
01:35:00,540 --> 01:35:03,180
If he's running the ball well,
downhill, let him run the ball.
1791
01:35:03,540 --> 01:35:05,980
All right.
I I understand.
1792
01:35:05,980 --> 01:35:09,020
We don't want drones to run 2530
* a game.
1793
01:35:09,420 --> 01:35:12,860
Totally get that right.
I think he ran it 2223 times
1794
01:35:12,860 --> 01:35:15,540
against Rutgers.
Probably a little too many,
1795
01:35:15,860 --> 01:35:20,200
right?
If you get him in that. 13 to 17
1796
01:35:20,200 --> 01:35:25,280
range, right where last week.
I think that's his sweet spot.
1797
01:35:25,680 --> 01:35:28,920
But a lot of those came later in
the game, right?
1798
01:35:29,920 --> 01:35:32,520
Real good early on.
Went away from it, came back to
1799
01:35:32,520 --> 01:35:36,440
it off and saw some success.
Let him run the ball, let him
1800
01:35:36,440 --> 01:35:38,960
get comfortable, set up the
passing game.
1801
01:35:39,760 --> 01:35:41,600
Doesn't have to be hard.
All righty.
1802
01:35:42,200 --> 01:35:43,920
There we go.
Let let drones cook.
1803
01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:46,840
I tally.
What's yours this week, man?
1804
01:35:47,200 --> 01:35:49,820
I'm gonna, I'm gonna get.
Jump on what he's saying as
1805
01:35:49,820 --> 01:35:52,700
well.
Whatever's working on offense,
1806
01:35:52,700 --> 01:35:56,260
stick with it.
I mean, don't overthink it.
1807
01:35:56,420 --> 01:35:58,940
Whatever's working, keep doing
it.
1808
01:35:58,940 --> 01:36:01,940
If Drones is killing him with
his legs, let him kill him.
1809
01:36:02,460 --> 01:36:05,700
If we're throwing short passes
and we we're thinking and
1810
01:36:05,700 --> 01:36:08,980
dunking down the field, let's
keep doing it.
1811
01:36:09,060 --> 01:36:13,500
You know, let's not just say,
OK, we did this, that worked.
1812
01:36:13,500 --> 01:36:15,700
Let's see if this will work.
No, we ain't got time for that.
1813
01:36:16,680 --> 01:36:18,400
Continue doing what works
offense.
1814
01:36:19,720 --> 01:36:21,280
There you go.
There you go, Sigla.
1815
01:36:21,280 --> 01:36:25,560
What's yours, man?
Yeah, I mean, I don't want to
1816
01:36:25,560 --> 01:36:28,440
beat a dead horse here, but live
at those explosive run planes,
1817
01:36:28,440 --> 01:36:30,200
man.
I mean that.
1818
01:36:30,200 --> 01:36:32,760
That's what we got to do.
We got, we got to have the
1819
01:36:32,760 --> 01:36:34,880
safety's coming up in the right
fits of the run game.
1820
01:36:34,880 --> 01:36:38,400
We got to get more tackles for
loss from our defensive line so
1821
01:36:38,400 --> 01:36:42,040
we can put them in down in
distances that hurt them.
1822
01:36:43,440 --> 01:36:47,160
So they can't gash us in the run
game on 3rd down and get those
1823
01:36:47,160 --> 01:36:50,960
big runs that not only move the
sticks but also we're putting
1824
01:36:50,960 --> 01:36:53,280
them in scoring range or they're
putting points on the board if
1825
01:36:53,280 --> 01:36:55,080
they're not already scoring on
the run anyway.
1826
01:36:55,080 --> 01:36:58,360
So that that's what we got to do
if if we can limit the explosive
1827
01:36:58,360 --> 01:37:01,720
plays in the run game.
I think we're we're what we're
1828
01:37:01,720 --> 01:37:05,600
showing is that we have the
ability we're not consistent.
1829
01:37:07,120 --> 01:37:10,480
We aren't doing, we aren't doing
the right things all the time.
1830
01:37:11,940 --> 01:37:14,220
Yep, we're not doing the right
things all the time.
1831
01:37:14,220 --> 01:37:16,420
All right, I'm going to throw
this one out for y'all because
1832
01:37:16,420 --> 01:37:22,140
of of kind of what Pitt is.
Pitt roughly ranks in the
1833
01:37:23,660 --> 01:37:26,540
atmosphere of NCAA college
football.
1834
01:37:26,540 --> 01:37:29,820
They are directly in the middle
when it comes to from 33rd
1835
01:37:29,820 --> 01:37:32,260
downs.
They're about 41%.
1836
01:37:32,820 --> 01:37:36,460
And I'm going to be honest, if
we can kick them to 41 percent
1837
01:37:36,460 --> 01:37:40,180
or less, that's going to be a
key get them off the field.
1838
01:37:40,970 --> 01:37:44,090
Every two or five times there's
a third down or three of out of
1839
01:37:44,090 --> 01:37:46,610
five times you're going to win
this game doing that.
1840
01:37:46,930 --> 01:37:51,010
If we let it become like it did
last week, where early Marshall
1841
01:37:51,090 --> 01:37:54,010
went like five or seven, they
came back to Earth in the
1842
01:37:54,010 --> 01:37:56,530
second-half, but they didn't
need it in the second-half.
1843
01:37:57,090 --> 01:37:58,650
They didn't need it in the
second-half.
1844
01:37:59,210 --> 01:38:02,890
Y'all are cracking me up too.
Seeing all the sorry, sorry,
1845
01:38:02,890 --> 01:38:05,210
y'all, don't know.
We we've we've all been in,
1846
01:38:05,290 --> 01:38:08,250
we've all been together for
close to four years now.
1847
01:38:08,250 --> 01:38:10,570
So there's a lot of stories in
this chat, so.
1848
01:38:10,940 --> 01:38:12,300
Me.
Get them off the field on 3rd
1849
01:38:12,300 --> 01:38:13,900
down.
Stick them to their average.
1850
01:38:13,900 --> 01:38:15,860
We'll put it below.
If it starts creeping above,
1851
01:38:15,860 --> 01:38:18,660
we're going to be in trouble.
All right, so now we've got our
1852
01:38:18,660 --> 01:38:20,340
prediction and our big
screeners.
1853
01:38:20,620 --> 01:38:22,780
Mike, you'll get to pick the big
screeners too.
1854
01:38:22,780 --> 01:38:24,580
You can just have some fun
because you know you never make
1855
01:38:24,580 --> 01:38:29,980
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01:38:29,980 --> 01:38:34,020
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1859
01:38:39,970 --> 01:38:43,770
Sam Laporta, The young rookie
tied in with Detroit.
1860
01:38:44,210 --> 01:38:48,090
It's at 42 1/2 receiving yards.
Take the over.
1861
01:38:48,090 --> 01:38:52,210
He has been lighting it up.
Green Bay at Derek Card doesn't
1862
01:38:52,210 --> 01:38:54,850
go out Sunday.
They do not win that game.
1863
01:38:55,210 --> 01:38:58,490
My second one because he's on my
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1864
01:38:58,490 --> 01:39:00,570
touchdown this week and he's
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1865
01:39:00,570 --> 01:39:03,930
in the league.
Justin Jefferson is a touchdown
1866
01:39:03,930 --> 01:39:05,850
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1867
01:39:05,850 --> 01:39:09,200
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01:39:18,560 --> 01:39:21,360
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01:39:25,300 --> 01:39:29,080
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All righty, we'll start with our
1873
01:39:29,080 --> 01:39:32,520
hokey predictions first.
Mike again.
1874
01:39:32,520 --> 01:39:34,760
You're the guest.
What are you feeling on the game
1875
01:39:34,760 --> 01:39:42,800
Saturday?
It's about time that a Brent
1876
01:39:42,800 --> 01:39:46,720
Pride coach team steps up and
just figures it out.
1877
01:39:47,880 --> 01:39:50,200
We can all agree.
Please.
1878
01:39:51,520 --> 01:39:53,640
I think it happens on Saturday
night.
1879
01:39:54,120 --> 01:39:58,880
I can't believe I'm saying this.
I think it happened Saturday
1880
01:39:58,880 --> 01:40:01,000
night.
What's informing me of this?
1881
01:40:01,600 --> 01:40:04,840
The spread makes no sense at
all.
1882
01:40:04,840 --> 01:40:06,440
The pit.
This pit team.
1883
01:40:06,440 --> 01:40:09,920
Listen, listen.
This pit team is not very good.
1884
01:40:10,160 --> 01:40:12,360
It's better than Virginia Tech,
right?
1885
01:40:12,880 --> 01:40:15,160
Why is Pitt only a 2 1/2 point
favorite?
1886
01:40:15,160 --> 01:40:17,040
And don't tell me it's because
they think Christian Bayou's
1887
01:40:17,040 --> 01:40:20,880
going to start a quarterback.
This thing opened at 4:00.
1888
01:40:21,280 --> 01:40:27,760
What makes makes zero sense.
Pitt has had a lovehate
1889
01:40:27,760 --> 01:40:34,110
relationship with going to Lane
Stadium and for some reason ACC
1890
01:40:34,110 --> 01:40:36,550
Network decide this is going to
be a primetime game on Saturday
1891
01:40:36,550 --> 01:40:42,310
night.
Give me the Hokies outright 1716
1892
01:40:42,430 --> 01:40:45,710
Virginia Tech.
A very ugly, low scoring,
1893
01:40:46,150 --> 01:40:49,470
disgusting, gross game spread
makes no sense.
1894
01:40:49,470 --> 01:40:53,110
Give me the Hokies on a rock.
Fight alrighty.
1895
01:40:53,270 --> 01:40:59,030
Let's see if we're as optimistic
as Mr. McDaniel is down here.
1896
01:40:59,030 --> 01:41:02,230
Tally, who you got?
Yeah man, Mike made some great
1897
01:41:02,230 --> 01:41:03,830
points.
You know, like he said, the
1898
01:41:03,830 --> 01:41:07,430
spread makes no sense.
I was looking at it.
1899
01:41:07,430 --> 01:41:09,390
I'm like, man, that's that's
kind of crazy.
1900
01:41:09,830 --> 01:41:15,350
So guess what I did?
I picked pit because our
1901
01:41:15,350 --> 01:41:17,390
coaching staff is not making no
sense.
1902
01:41:18,070 --> 01:41:22,190
Pit to the wind pits going to
cover 2417 pit.
1903
01:41:25,850 --> 01:41:27,570
I mean, it's already up there.
I got Pitt too.
1904
01:41:28,250 --> 01:41:29,850
I'm going.
I'm going to cover, too.
1905
01:41:29,850 --> 01:41:37,610
I got 2720 Pitt.
I I can't trust our run defense
1906
01:41:37,610 --> 01:41:42,410
to not allow big plays yet.
And I still need to see the
1907
01:41:42,410 --> 01:41:44,370
offense put four quarters
together.
1908
01:41:45,010 --> 01:41:49,090
And I'm at a point now in this
season where, until I see it
1909
01:41:49,090 --> 01:41:52,250
actually happen, I have a hard
time picking Virginia Tech.
1910
01:41:52,450 --> 01:41:54,500
So Pitt.
All right.
1911
01:41:54,620 --> 01:41:57,020
Did you get Sheldon's?
Yeah.
1912
01:41:57,940 --> 01:42:00,900
What's he?
He's also saying that I don't
1913
01:42:00,900 --> 01:42:02,860
think we got the score from him.
But he said Fitz winning the
1914
01:42:02,860 --> 01:42:06,220
game.
I'm I'm I'm sorry we're going
1915
01:42:06,260 --> 01:42:07,500
all against you.
Mike here.
1916
01:42:07,780 --> 01:42:10,380
But I'm with them.
I'm fading the Hokies until I
1917
01:42:10,380 --> 01:42:12,900
see a lot more out of them.
I do think it's going to be
1918
01:42:12,900 --> 01:42:13,540
ugly.
I'm.
1919
01:42:13,660 --> 01:42:15,580
I'm with you.
I'm not as high scoring as these
1920
01:42:15,580 --> 01:42:18,020
two guys are.
I think the Hokies cover, but I
1921
01:42:18,020 --> 01:42:19,900
think they lose a heartbreaker
2120.
1922
01:42:20,340 --> 01:42:23,850
I'm not even like an optimist
and for some reason I just have
1923
01:42:23,850 --> 01:42:25,490
a feeling about this for some
reason so.
1924
01:42:25,650 --> 01:42:28,450
We hope you're right it.
Might be Daniel.
1925
01:42:28,450 --> 01:42:31,130
Gut feeling.
I got to see if that plays out,
1926
01:42:31,130 --> 01:42:33,930
man.
It's gone for and against me, so
1927
01:42:33,930 --> 01:42:35,250
we'll see.
It is what?
1928
01:42:35,370 --> 01:42:37,890
Curtis Curtis, you said you
think the score is going to be
1929
01:42:37,890 --> 01:42:41,650
2120. 2120.
So you think the Hulkies cover?
1930
01:42:41,930 --> 01:42:44,730
I think they can cover, but
we're still going to lose.
1931
01:42:44,730 --> 01:42:47,610
It's going to be all some
screwed up ass play, probably
1932
01:42:47,650 --> 01:42:50,090
knowing our luck, just the way
everything's going this year.
1933
01:42:51,110 --> 01:42:54,150
All righty, We got more big
screeners because, you know,
1934
01:42:54,150 --> 01:42:57,670
we're at a point in our lives.
We can curse and be mad at our
1935
01:42:57,670 --> 01:42:59,750
team and throw shit after the
game, but we can still watch
1936
01:42:59,750 --> 01:43:03,270
other games.
I did last week, Had had some
1937
01:43:03,270 --> 01:43:05,750
Scotch, had some Scotch after
the game.
1938
01:43:06,190 --> 01:43:07,910
So let's start with the first
one here.
1939
01:43:07,910 --> 01:43:09,950
Tally, you leading us off
Tally's?
1940
01:43:10,030 --> 01:43:13,870
He's definitely watching USC
Colorado.
1941
01:43:13,870 --> 01:43:16,990
I think that's a high noon kick.
Oh yeah, I talked a little bit
1942
01:43:16,990 --> 01:43:20,930
about it earlier, man.
These people smell blood in the
1943
01:43:20,930 --> 01:43:23,170
water.
Dion, you better get your team
1944
01:43:23,170 --> 01:43:26,730
right because Caleb Williams is
coming in there and he's
1945
01:43:26,730 --> 01:43:30,330
definitely going to cover and
they might score 60 points.
1946
01:43:30,570 --> 01:43:35,450
It's my opinion that that
Colorado offensive line has not
1947
01:43:35,450 --> 01:43:38,410
been good.
Everything that Shador Sanders
1948
01:43:38,410 --> 01:43:42,010
has done, it's kind of been him
making plays in my opinion.
1949
01:43:42,290 --> 01:43:45,370
I think that are most sacked
team or one of the most sacked
1950
01:43:45,370 --> 01:43:49,020
team in the nation.
Which is crazy because they're
1951
01:43:49,020 --> 01:43:53,260
higher than us.
But again, no knock on Colorado.
1952
01:43:53,580 --> 01:43:56,580
They are building a team, but I
think USC is going to smoke
1953
01:43:56,580 --> 01:43:59,700
them.
All right.
1954
01:43:59,700 --> 01:44:03,980
Brian, what you got?
I'm taking the Trojans in this
1955
01:44:03,980 --> 01:44:07,540
one too.
What I saw against Oregon
1956
01:44:08,180 --> 01:44:12,140
against a competent rush that
also has a back end that can
1957
01:44:12,140 --> 01:44:15,780
cover.
Was not very pretty.
1958
01:44:16,140 --> 01:44:18,100
I think we're going to see a
little bit more of that.
1959
01:44:18,420 --> 01:44:22,420
I don't think it's quite as
lopsided as that Oregon contest,
1960
01:44:22,420 --> 01:44:25,300
but I think it definitely covers
that 21 1/2.
1961
01:44:25,300 --> 01:44:28,940
So give me the Trojans.
All righty, go ahead, throw
1962
01:44:28,940 --> 01:44:32,580
Shelton's up there because me
and Shelton are on the same
1963
01:44:32,580 --> 01:44:34,380
page.
Colorado is not going to win
1964
01:44:34,380 --> 01:44:36,860
this game, but they're going to
cover y'all.
1965
01:44:36,860 --> 01:44:39,220
It's Lincoln Rally.
His teams don't play defense.
1966
01:44:39,220 --> 01:44:42,020
They eventually going to get in
the shootout, by the way.
1967
01:44:42,430 --> 01:44:46,630
It's 73 1/2 over under over.
Oh my God.
1968
01:44:46,630 --> 01:44:48,590
Over.
Oh my God over.
1969
01:44:48,670 --> 01:44:50,870
This game's going to be like,
Tally, you ain't wrong.
1970
01:44:50,870 --> 01:44:55,910
I think UFC gets to 60, but I
think, I think Deon ain't far
1971
01:44:55,910 --> 01:44:57,470
behind it.
Like 45.
1972
01:44:58,310 --> 01:44:59,790
The game's hit 100.
Yeah.
1973
01:44:59,870 --> 01:45:01,390
You got any picks on this one,
Mike?
1974
01:45:01,830 --> 01:45:04,750
I like Colorado to cover because
of exactly what you just said,
1975
01:45:04,750 --> 01:45:10,480
Curtis, the the USC defense man.
If if Lincoln Riley ever fires
1976
01:45:10,480 --> 01:45:12,760
Alex Grinch, who gets a real
defensive coordinator, US, he's
1977
01:45:12,760 --> 01:45:14,000
going to be cooking with some
guys, I think.
1978
01:45:15,320 --> 01:45:17,120
We'll see.
I think it's just a Lincoln
1979
01:45:17,120 --> 01:45:17,880
thing.
I think.
1980
01:45:17,880 --> 01:45:19,800
I don't think you know what, I
don't think Lincoln Riley knows
1981
01:45:19,800 --> 01:45:22,240
how to do y'all what.
I don't think he knows.
1982
01:45:22,280 --> 01:45:24,120
I play complimentary football.
He just wants.
1983
01:45:24,480 --> 01:45:27,480
To all the time.
What makes you say that?
1984
01:45:29,040 --> 01:45:31,960
Wherever he's been, he has some
of the most impressive defensive
1985
01:45:31,960 --> 01:45:33,880
talent and he cannot stop
anyone.
1986
01:45:34,210 --> 01:45:36,290
Hey, hey, we need a 6 minute
drive here.
1987
01:45:36,290 --> 01:45:38,970
We're up two touchdowns.
I'm going to try scoring 3
1988
01:45:38,970 --> 01:45:44,290
seconds exactly.
I'm going to go to my game next
1989
01:45:44,290 --> 01:45:46,890
Friday night.
Two teams the Hokies will see,
1990
01:45:47,210 --> 01:45:50,250
which are NC State and
Louisville.
1991
01:45:50,410 --> 01:45:54,930
This game is down at Carter
Finley Stadium on Friday night
1992
01:45:55,370 --> 01:46:00,170
and we got a home dog here.
We got a home dog.
1993
01:46:01,520 --> 01:46:03,280
And I think this is going to be
a fight.
1994
01:46:03,280 --> 01:46:05,440
I think this is going to be the
best Louisville, the best
1995
01:46:05,440 --> 01:46:07,360
defense Louisville has seen all
year.
1996
01:46:07,640 --> 01:46:11,160
I think Louisville has flaws on
the defensive side of the ball.
1997
01:46:11,160 --> 01:46:12,320
We saw that against Georgia
Tech.
1998
01:46:12,320 --> 01:46:15,200
When you give a 28 points to
that dreadful Georgia Tech
1999
01:46:15,200 --> 01:46:16,920
offense, it says a lot about
you.
2000
01:46:17,280 --> 01:46:20,440
So give me NC State.
I think NC State takes the win
2001
01:46:20,520 --> 01:46:25,400
and the cover tally.
Oh, tally.
2002
01:46:25,400 --> 01:46:28,600
OK.
Yeah, I think, I think you,
2003
01:46:29,440 --> 01:46:32,570
North Carolina State.
We'll win and cover here as
2004
01:46:32,570 --> 01:46:35,090
well.
A linebacker, man.
2005
01:46:35,090 --> 01:46:38,770
He's something else.
Another another one that we
2006
01:46:38,770 --> 01:46:40,850
almost got him.
Peyton, Peyton.
2007
01:46:40,850 --> 01:46:43,210
Luke, Peyton Willis.
Wilson.
2008
01:46:43,610 --> 01:46:45,930
Peyton Wilson.
Another almost, man.
2009
01:46:45,930 --> 01:46:48,210
We almost got him like that dude
is a baller.
2010
01:46:48,650 --> 01:46:52,010
I think that they play some
defense in and go in and win
2011
01:46:52,010 --> 01:46:55,370
this.
What we got there with Brian?
2012
01:46:58,210 --> 01:47:00,210
I got the Wolf Pack pulling this
one out too.
2013
01:47:00,210 --> 01:47:03,080
I just think.
It's gonna be enough defense to
2014
01:47:03,080 --> 01:47:05,880
slow down some of what Louis was
doing offensively, and I think
2015
01:47:05,880 --> 01:47:10,680
they'll be able to pull it out.
NC State, always solid defense.
2016
01:47:11,560 --> 01:47:13,200
Defense is going to win you that
game, I think.
2017
01:47:15,320 --> 01:47:17,000
All right, so Sheldon's up
there.
2018
01:47:17,120 --> 01:47:18,960
He's going.
Louisville faded us.
2019
01:47:19,760 --> 01:47:21,440
He faded us.
Mike, are you famous?
2020
01:47:21,440 --> 01:47:22,520
Are you with us?
No.
2021
01:47:22,520 --> 01:47:24,800
NC stayed out.
Right Defense.
2022
01:47:24,960 --> 01:47:26,960
This is the first good, like
real good defense.
2023
01:47:26,960 --> 01:47:28,580
Louisville's play.
Yep.
2024
01:47:28,620 --> 01:47:31,140
And we already seen Louisville's
offensive flaws, so he's going
2025
01:47:31,140 --> 01:47:33,020
with us.
And we already said that, you
2026
01:47:33,020 --> 01:47:36,580
know, Louisville is playing
probably the easiest schedule of
2027
01:47:36,580 --> 01:47:40,540
any ACC team this year.
So up to this point, yeah, it is
2028
01:47:40,700 --> 01:47:42,740
so.
It's so bad, all right?
2029
01:47:43,700 --> 01:47:46,620
By the way, one team that kind
of has not played an ass
2030
01:47:46,620 --> 01:47:49,140
schedule is due.
They've knocked off Clemson.
2031
01:47:49,660 --> 01:47:54,260
Now they get a chance to take on
the Golden Domers in Bryan's.
2032
01:47:54,630 --> 01:47:58,230
Big Screener of the week.
It'll probably be on his 52 inch
2033
01:47:58,670 --> 01:47:59,750
point point.
Which one?
2034
01:47:59,750 --> 01:48:01,430
Which one's he going to be on
this?
2035
01:48:01,550 --> 01:48:04,430
That one right there.
I got, I got the 50 fiver here,
2036
01:48:04,430 --> 01:48:10,990
I got another 52 are up here, so
it'll be on the 50 fiver. 5 1/2
2037
01:48:10,990 --> 01:48:13,830
point line.
He says Duke, I'm going with
2038
01:48:13,830 --> 01:48:15,910
Duke.
I I mean, I don't think, I'm not
2039
01:48:15,910 --> 01:48:17,390
sure that Duke wins this out,
right?
2040
01:48:17,390 --> 01:48:20,550
But I think this is a field
goal.
2041
01:48:21,290 --> 01:48:26,410
Last minute taking the lead game
type of situation for Notre
2042
01:48:26,410 --> 01:48:27,490
Dame.
I think this is going to come
2043
01:48:27,490 --> 01:48:31,010
down to the wire and it's either
going to be a a field goal late
2044
01:48:31,010 --> 01:48:34,410
to break a tie or a touchdown
late to to take the lead back
2045
01:48:34,410 --> 01:48:36,170
from Duke.
Alright, I'm gonna be nice.
2046
01:48:36,170 --> 01:48:38,170
Mike will throw yours.
What do you got on this one?
2047
01:48:38,650 --> 01:48:41,050
I am I man.
I want no part of this one.
2048
01:48:41,050 --> 01:48:44,850
Notre Dame in a let down spot
after we saw what happened last
2049
01:48:44,850 --> 01:48:46,770
year, right?
Notre Dame lost to Ohio State
2050
01:48:46,770 --> 01:48:48,370
and bit him in the ass the
following week.
2051
01:48:48,930 --> 01:48:49,690
Marshall.
Yeah.
2052
01:48:50,980 --> 01:48:52,660
Mike says he's not.
Are you making a prediction or
2053
01:48:52,660 --> 01:48:53,940
you just throwing this one off
your board?
2054
01:48:54,500 --> 01:48:56,980
Notre Dame.
OK, Notre Dame, they're they're,
2055
01:48:57,060 --> 01:48:58,580
I mean, they're just, they're
better.
2056
01:48:58,980 --> 01:49:00,180
I'm just gonna go with Notre
Dame here.
2057
01:49:00,500 --> 01:49:03,340
Tally, Tally, Tally.
I'm going with Notre Dame and
2058
01:49:03,340 --> 01:49:06,420
the only reason that I'm going
with Notre Dame is because I
2059
01:49:06,420 --> 01:49:09,260
wanted to go Duke.
But I have been horrible at
2060
01:49:09,260 --> 01:49:12,500
picking, if you go back and look
over the weeks, so I just went
2061
01:49:12,500 --> 01:49:13,980
with the opposite team I was
gonna pick.
2062
01:49:15,140 --> 01:49:17,020
Well, I feel in my gut I'm going
the opposite.
2063
01:49:17,020 --> 01:49:18,260
Way I'm going the opposite way
because.
2064
01:49:18,540 --> 01:49:20,500
My gut ain't treating me nice.
Lately, Sally said.
2065
01:49:20,500 --> 01:49:23,660
He's fading himself.
Exactly.
2066
01:49:25,140 --> 01:49:28,980
Who Sheldon got on this, and I'm
with.
2067
01:49:29,020 --> 01:49:32,620
I'm with everybody else.
Brian, give me Notre Dame 5 1/2,
2068
01:49:32,620 --> 01:49:35,980
and it's not so much that I
don't think Duke's a good team.
2069
01:49:36,020 --> 01:49:39,340
But yeah, we saw a Clifton game.
Clemson should have probably
2070
01:49:39,340 --> 01:49:42,180
beat them by 14 points.
You turned the ball that many
2071
01:49:42,180 --> 01:49:44,740
times over inside your 10 yard
line.
2072
01:49:45,170 --> 01:49:47,970
You're going to lose.
I don't thought Nader name gets
2073
01:49:47,970 --> 01:49:51,170
that Mike you put a good point
they are in a bad let down spot.
2074
01:49:51,170 --> 01:49:53,930
But the way that game I mean
even a worse let down spot
2075
01:49:53,930 --> 01:49:59,410
because legitimately 10 off 10
defensive players missing a
2076
01:49:59,410 --> 01:50:04,410
defensive lineman exactly where
Ohio State ran that ball on
2077
01:50:04,410 --> 01:50:06,690
literally the last play of the
game.
2078
01:50:06,690 --> 01:50:10,730
But I think they bounced back by
the way game day is in Duke and
2079
01:50:10,730 --> 01:50:14,330
now game day the only spot they
have not been is what UVA.
2080
01:50:15,600 --> 01:50:18,800
It's like 2 spots now.
Like it's every A/C school, but
2081
01:50:18,800 --> 01:50:22,960
UVA now has gotten a visit from
game day after the day.
2082
01:50:23,320 --> 01:50:25,840
Alrighty.
Another I think this is going to
2083
01:50:25,840 --> 01:50:29,120
be this might be the funnest
game of the weekend.
2084
01:50:29,640 --> 01:50:34,800
Kansas, Texas, Texas is a 17
point favorite.
2085
01:50:36,080 --> 01:50:38,360
Mike, we're going to let you
leave this one, man.
2086
01:50:38,360 --> 01:50:41,800
What do you think with this
crazy game which I think is this
2087
01:50:41,800 --> 01:50:44,520
in?
Make sure here.
2088
01:50:44,640 --> 01:50:49,600
This is in Austin, this is at
Royal Texas.
2089
01:50:49,880 --> 01:50:52,400
This is a this is when you're 5
stars.
2090
01:50:52,400 --> 01:50:55,440
Just pull away.
Kansas is very well coached, but
2091
01:50:55,560 --> 01:50:58,280
there comes a point in time
where you're not going to be
2092
01:50:58,280 --> 01:50:59,920
able to defend Texas for four
quarters.
2093
01:51:00,000 --> 01:51:01,240
Give me.
I mean Texas has been really
2094
01:51:01,240 --> 01:51:04,320
impressive.
So and Kansas is a good team.
2095
01:51:04,320 --> 01:51:06,400
They're four and oh, they're a
good team like Texas.
2096
01:51:06,400 --> 01:51:09,560
They should have the attention
of this Texas team.
2097
01:51:10,290 --> 01:51:12,210
All right, What's Shelton got on
this?
2098
01:51:12,210 --> 01:51:13,290
This is the one he wanted to
pick.
2099
01:51:13,290 --> 01:51:15,930
He's going Texas.
He's with you, Mike Talley.
2100
01:51:16,810 --> 01:51:20,170
I'm going to go Kansas.
I'm going to go Kansas for the
2101
01:51:20,170 --> 01:51:23,810
same reason that I went Notre
Dame, because I seen Texas.
2102
01:51:23,890 --> 01:51:25,770
I thought Texas.
I think I was the only one that
2103
01:51:25,770 --> 01:51:28,050
picked Texas against Alabama.
I thought Texas, you were a
2104
01:51:28,090 --> 01:51:30,250
great team.
I thought they were going to go
2105
01:51:30,250 --> 01:51:31,410
in and win.
I think they're going to win
2106
01:51:31,410 --> 01:51:32,650
this game.
Hell, they're probably going to
2107
01:51:32,650 --> 01:51:34,500
cover.
That's what my mind says.
2108
01:51:34,500 --> 01:51:36,380
So I said fuck it, let's go to
Kansas.
2109
01:51:37,940 --> 01:51:41,180
The opposite bets of every of
Jonathan Talley this week.
2110
01:51:41,540 --> 01:51:44,180
Listen, I'm going to Kansas
here.
2111
01:51:45,020 --> 01:51:47,140
One reason y'all know what's
next weekend?
2112
01:51:48,700 --> 01:51:50,580
What?
Let's go to the Texas State
2113
01:51:50,580 --> 01:51:52,260
Fair.
It's the Red River Shootout
2114
01:51:52,260 --> 01:51:54,060
Oklahoma last time in the Big
12.
2115
01:51:54,460 --> 01:51:57,540
I think they overlook Kansas a
little bit where this is a
2116
01:51:57,540 --> 01:51:59,790
tighter game.
Mike, you're right.
2117
01:51:59,790 --> 01:52:02,950
Five stars prevail in the end by
like 10 to 13.
2118
01:52:03,190 --> 01:52:05,470
But I think Kansas can cover and
I think this is going to be an
2119
01:52:05,470 --> 01:52:11,550
entertaining, high scoring game.
Yeah, that's fine, Ron.
2120
01:52:12,830 --> 01:52:15,870
I'm going K U2.
Kansas is going to have a back
2121
01:52:15,870 --> 01:52:19,150
door cover there at the end.
What's the score then?
2122
01:52:22,750 --> 01:52:28,670
Give me, give me like 4228.
I got you.
2123
01:52:28,710 --> 01:52:29,910
I got you.
That makes sense.
2124
01:52:29,910 --> 01:52:31,230
That makes sense.
All right.
2125
01:52:31,750 --> 01:52:35,110
Next game, Last game.
This is none of ours, but we
2126
01:52:35,110 --> 01:52:36,870
just always choose one extra
game.
2127
01:52:37,270 --> 01:52:43,150
Friday night, 9:00, Utah.
Oregon State in Corvallis, Utah.
2128
01:52:43,150 --> 01:52:46,630
The hottest team in the PAC 12.
By the way, this will not be a
2129
01:52:46,630 --> 01:52:49,670
high scoring game.
This will be a lot of hitting.
2130
01:52:51,630 --> 01:52:55,030
1716 There's Mike right there.
1716 Who?
2131
01:52:56,390 --> 01:53:01,190
1716, Oregon State.
Utah's quarterback issues
2132
01:53:01,190 --> 01:53:03,070
finally kept.
I want to call them issues.
2133
01:53:03,070 --> 01:53:04,710
They've They've won every game
they played.
2134
01:53:05,470 --> 01:53:08,030
The the the quarterback
situation finally catches up to
2135
01:53:08,030 --> 01:53:11,790
Utah.
Alrighty, they cover though they
2136
01:53:11,790 --> 01:53:16,990
cover prime.
I've got Oregon State here.
2137
01:53:17,910 --> 01:53:23,070
I think this is going to be, as
Mike said, a game where the
2138
01:53:23,070 --> 01:53:24,470
quarterback catches up with
them.
2139
01:53:24,470 --> 01:53:28,090
I think that.
Oregon State can generate just
2140
01:53:28,090 --> 01:53:32,770
enough offense against that
really good Utah defense to kind
2141
01:53:32,770 --> 01:53:35,770
of stretch out that that 3 1/2
to about 6 points.
2142
01:53:37,690 --> 01:53:39,890
All righty.
I'm next on this one.
2143
01:53:41,530 --> 01:53:43,570
I'm next on this one.
I'm going to go Utah.
2144
01:53:44,210 --> 01:53:46,250
I like Utah.
I think Utah's the better team
2145
01:53:46,250 --> 01:53:48,250
regardless of quarterback
situation.
2146
01:53:48,530 --> 01:53:52,850
We don't know.
It seemed like that, you know,
2147
01:53:53,210 --> 01:53:55,170
cameras.
And it's close to coming back.
2148
01:53:55,640 --> 01:53:59,440
If the game was Saturday, he
probably he is a chance he
2149
01:53:59,440 --> 01:54:02,480
probably would be back this week
but I think Utah grinds it out.
2150
01:54:02,640 --> 01:54:06,440
I think Mike, you're not far off
on that 1716 score.
2151
01:54:06,880 --> 01:54:10,840
Stay up till midnight Friday
night gets 2TV's going state.
2152
01:54:11,040 --> 01:54:13,080
Put the other one on.
Brian will have his Braves on
2153
01:54:13,080 --> 01:54:16,240
the TV as well on Friday night
watching these sipping a little
2154
01:54:16,240 --> 01:54:18,400
drink.
Tally, who you got?
2155
01:54:19,000 --> 01:54:21,360
I got Utah winning, man.
I think Utah's just.
2156
01:54:21,800 --> 01:54:25,000
I would take them straight up
money, line, close game.
2157
01:54:25,500 --> 01:54:27,780
I think it's going to be a close
game, but I think I just
2158
01:54:27,780 --> 01:54:30,060
watching Utah at the beginning
of the season, you know, play
2159
01:54:30,060 --> 01:54:33,900
this Florida, I think they're
just going to be a very physical
2160
01:54:33,900 --> 01:54:35,900
team and they're going to win
the game.
2161
01:54:36,460 --> 01:54:40,140
All righty, Shelton takes, he's
around with you and the Beavers.
2162
01:54:40,140 --> 01:54:43,380
So the going with the home
Beavers there.
2163
01:54:43,380 --> 01:54:46,580
Listen, Mike, it's been fun,
man.
2164
01:54:47,100 --> 01:54:49,660
We love having you on.
Awesome time.
2165
01:54:50,120 --> 01:54:50,720
Yeah.
I appreciate it.
2166
01:54:50,720 --> 01:54:54,040
Guys, great insight, man.
I I vouched for it a little bit
2167
01:54:54,040 --> 01:54:56,480
a couple weeks ago.
I said let me come on at some
2168
01:54:56,480 --> 01:54:58,600
point and go on a little rant.
You guys let me do that.
2169
01:54:58,600 --> 01:55:00,320
So I appreciate it.
Anytime, man.
2170
01:55:00,360 --> 01:55:02,960
Probably, man.
We gotta let everybody get their
2171
01:55:02,960 --> 01:55:04,920
rants out.
Now everybody's gonna be
2172
01:55:04,920 --> 01:55:06,840
messaging us.
Hey, Mike Guest, can I come on
2173
01:55:06,840 --> 01:55:08,280
too?
Well, you gotta know how to rant
2174
01:55:08,280 --> 01:55:09,800
good.
Mike knows how to rant good.
2175
01:55:09,800 --> 01:55:10,960
If Y'all didn't notice, he had a
four.
2176
01:55:10,960 --> 01:55:14,120
And a half minute rant on.
Fits coherent.
2177
01:55:14,680 --> 01:55:18,000
Coherent You have income.
I have getting coherent rants.
2178
01:55:18,120 --> 01:55:20,240
All righty.
I don't think anything's broken.
2179
01:55:20,240 --> 01:55:21,800
I've been keeping up with
Twitter here myself.
2180
01:55:21,800 --> 01:55:24,960
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2181
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neighborhood pharmacy located at
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301 S Main St. in Blacksburg.
Mike.
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Hey, buddy.
What's up?
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What's going on?
I thought.
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I thought if I came on this
podcast this week, we might have
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a chance to actually win a game.
You know, I I've been recapping
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all these games on my podcast.
And nothing good has happened
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yet.
So I was thinking, if I went on
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another Virginia Tech podcast,
maybe something good would
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happen this week.
Let's mix it up, let's let's do
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things a little different, see
if we can get a different
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outcome because if we're being
honest, I mean it is not look
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good the last three weeks.
No, not at all.
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It's not look good.
It's not look good at all.
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Good evening, Lavar.
Always good to hear from you,
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man.
Down in the 75.
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It hasn't boys.
It has been a rough last three
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weeks.
Hokie sit at 1:00 and 3:00 after
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the 24 to 17 lost to Marshall
the first time they have beat
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the Hokies in 83 years.
That's right, 83 years.
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Right down.
Big Yikes.
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And before we get into all that,
got a couple things.
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Obviously we always are pumping
it rally for Robbie this year to
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support testicular answer.
Not sure what lot it's going to
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be in yet trying to get with
Grayson on that.
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Look at that.
Once we know we will tweet it
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out, go visit get yourself one
and it will be always at the
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pharmacy 7 dollars, then they'll
only they do accept them only
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cash there.
Before I get into the game,
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there's two things we got to
talk about.
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First of all let's talk about
Pop Watson.
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He was suspended indefinitely.
He has since been reinstated and
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has also been.
This is what happens when we
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record before the the Tuesday
presser man.
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Like we we don't get to actually
talk about the news when it
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happened, and now it's like it's
already over.
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Yeah, surprise, we glad.
We glad that's over.
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Definitely glad it's over.
But I mean like, you know, we
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had, we had talked about it
elsewhere off camera here like.
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Indefinitely definitely got
taken with and ran.
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But I mean that's if it's only
one week, that's when you know
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just say it's one week or say
it's pop.
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Needs to take some steps before
he's back with the team.
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Don't say indefinitely and
definitely makes people think
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he's out till November.
And then don't don't forget,
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somebody comes up and says,
well, the last person that was.
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Suspended and definitely killed
a man.
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I'm like, Jesus Christ, we
can't.
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We can't win, man.
We can't win on Twitter.
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We can't win on the field.
We fucked up all around.
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Thank you, Virginia Tech.
Twitter.
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You keep my started.
And and it's and it's started
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with Fry winning every press
conference and winning over
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everybody and now it's like
every little thing gets
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deadpicked when you only win
four out of your first 15 games.
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So.
That's what happens.
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Oh yeah, Oh yeah, everything
will be nitpicked.
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Can't even tweet the one and no
graphic anymore because that's
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going to get trolled all the
hell.
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Oh yeah, they killing it.
I've seen one of the coaches say
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something about God or or or or.
Thank you, Jesus.
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I saw that.
And somebody.
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You gonna have to Was it winner,
Marv it?
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Was one of the two.
I'll go man.
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I'm smart.
Marv is smart for sure.
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It's Mark.
I had them messed up.
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Y'all it was Mark.
Messed up.
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Hey man, some of y'all out
there.
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Ruthless man they are.
Ruthless they are.
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Ruthless for them.
It's a passionate fan base, man,
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but that's why we show up in
65,000 in the seats for a one in
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three team coming off a three
win season.
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It came sold out.
Super interesting to see it sold
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out beforehand.
It'll be interesting to see
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second anyway.
You see network.
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How many people are actually
there?
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I'm not going, Mike, you going
this week?
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He lagging a little bit.
I think we lagging Tally, you
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ain't going obviously.
See you.
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Ain't going, are you?
I'm not going.
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All right, We'll let him.
We'll let Mike get sorted out
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here.
He is lagging there, but let's
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talk about the other thing.
It broke today.
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I think this had been in the
works for quite a while where
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the Hokies are moving their home
game headquarters from the Hotel
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Roanoke to Blacksburg at the Inn
in Blacksburg.
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This was a David Teal article.
It is going to cost the
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department about 100 + K more a
year.
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But I mean, if you've got
something that can accommodate,
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there we go.
He came back.
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He left again, left again.
Well, that might figure it out
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here.
But if you have the amenities in
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Blacksburg to keep the team 5
minutes from the field, please
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do that.
It's it's almost an hour ride
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with a bus up 81 to.
We've had enough travel issues
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so far this year that we don't
need to continue adding to that,
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to that run, right.
So we don't, you know, you got a
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late, late plane.
I mean, let's let's keep it
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simple.
When there's something else that
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happened in the travel that
threw things off, I can't
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remember what it was.
Some of the Rutgers, the plane,
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they went there, they went back
and all that stuff.
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To my knowledge, nothing else
travel wise happened.
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They did mention at one point
this year like there had been
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some issues coming up 81 that
had delayed them, which makes
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sense because they're roughly
leaving there what, 4 hours
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before the game?
How much of the traffic from the
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75, the 804 and Nova's coming in
at that point in time, getting
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into it 3 hours beforehand?
Of course there's going to be
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traffic delays, right?
And right now we've lost Mike,
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so we're going to try to get him
back in here he.
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Said his computer crashed.
He's getting back up.
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We're good.
We will get him.
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But do y'all like that.
I mean, y'all y'all both played,
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you know, collegiate ball and
stuff.
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You know, how far did y'all stay
from your home stadium tally?
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Well, I mean, it was.
I can see good and bad, I guess
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in in in why you do that?
Because sometimes you want to
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be, you know, away just to have
your team just not really run
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into people, just focus on the
game, you know what I'm saying?
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But of course, we're dinosaurs
now.
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So you got social media, they
got their phones, they're going
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then.
They're not just going to be
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with the team anyway and mostly
everybody knows where they stay,
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so you're going to run in the
fans there as well, so.
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I mean, I feel like why wasted
like you said, why it caused
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more problems going and taking
off when you can just be right
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around the corner or not.
Yeah, I would.
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When I played, he used to stay
in the Wyanoke Hotel for game
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nights, sometimes for the home
games.
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Big home games.
We actually didn't.
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We didn't do it for every home
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Curtis knows that because Curtis
knows I would occasionally DB
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for that motherfucker on on
Friday nights if I didn't have
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to go to the hotel.
Yes, he did, because he couldn't
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sleep too.
Amped up, yeah, I mean, night
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before a game, if I got to sleep
before two or three, if I was
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doing something good, even even
on road trips in a hotel like it
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could, just I just got amped up
and.
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That was kind of my routine.
So I was like, if I'm awake, I
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might as well do something
productive with my night.
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What do you think about it,
Mike?
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I mean, did you read the TL
article or see it or hear about
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it, the moving from the hotel,
rolling out back to the Inn at
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Blacksburg and what are your
thoughts on it?
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Yeah, I read it.
No, I'm here.
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I'm here.
I'm here.
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Don't worry, I'm here.
No, I read it.
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I read it.
I my thoughts.
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My thoughts on it are, look, it
makes a lot of sense, right?
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I think this is one of those
things where, you know when your
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program is struggling, you're
looking for a layup literally
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anywhere, right?
And I think this is one of those
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things where, you know, David
Teal writes his story and you
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know the staff is looking for
anything good in a moment where
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the team's really struggling,
things are going really poorly.
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And I think when you pen this
story.
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And you, you put it out there.
Any positive press right now for
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this football program is good
press.
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And being like okay, there's a
reason why we're doing this.
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It's, you know, something that
will bring the recruits, you
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know, around the team, have them
be, you know, part of the
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weekend, have it be a little bit
easier to the Virginia Tech.
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In that way they're right there
on campus all weekend.
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I think it makes a lot of sense
and I don't know why they
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weren't doing that before, to be
honest with you.
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It seems like this was something
that started back in the Beamer
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area.
Again, Gladys, there also you,
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if you read the article, Mike,
you saw too.
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It was one of those things with
recruits on campus Friday
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nights.
Now the coaches, like literally
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can just go meet with them.
They can set up visits and all
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that.
The other big part, and this is
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wild, you spent how much money
on the Beamer Barn.
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You weren't using it for
walkthroughs on game days.
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Now they're going to use it as
their walkthrough on game days
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versus one of the conference
rooms in a Hotel Roanoke.
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So it makes perfect sense and
all that.
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All right, all right, well,
let's just get to it.
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Y'all because we can't hide it.
We got a lot of people.
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Yeah, right.
Tell us, Dwight.
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We got to tell the truth
Tuesday.
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And we've got a lot of stuff,
too.
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We got a lot of.
Stuff going forward.
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Mikey, welcome on board.
Mike.
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They all love you here but we
got to tell the truth Tuesday.
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Mike, what we do here is we talk
about what went well what went
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bad, did anything happen we were
not prepared for and what can we
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do better moving forward.
This is a philosophy taken told
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to us by our buddy Robbie
company.
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He's a coach down in North
Carolina and he they developed
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this from Pete Carroll.
So.
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So you know where it's coming
from, but let's talk about the
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first one.
And this isn't a long list
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today, it's the shortest of the
year so far.
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But what went well?
What went well?
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Anybody want to talk about
anything?
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For two quarters we run the ball
pretty damn well.
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We did best run we had all year.
Yeah, I mean, we had.
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Runs.
We had runs.
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Yeah.
How many yards did?
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Two.
And average was it?
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Was it like 6-2 was at 9.82
almost averaged A10 spot?
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They should have gave him the
ball like he was Jamal Anderson
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back with the Falcons.
They should have gave him the
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ball 35 times.
And I would have told drones you
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are running back until you throw
for over 300 yards.
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When you drop back, just fucking
run.
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They ain't stopping us from
running, so why are we stopping
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running?
Going with the other Evans one
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reading go let.
Me slow back down.
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We talked about what went well.
I think somebody put the quick
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start.
A quick start was good.
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You know, again, let me let me
put this in slam out there right
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quick.
I did not watch the game
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Saturday.
My son had a baseball tournament
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that I was at, so we were in
Coleman, Alabama, which has no
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service.
At all.
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It don't sound like it had
service.
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No, it had no service at all.
So I mean, like I was getting
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updates on the way home.
Marshall just scored again.
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And when I say on the way home
at 8:00 at night, I'm getting
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updates then.
But I did not watch the, you
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know, reading Twitter and
talking to the guys, I knew what
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happened, but I didn't watch the
game until.
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Earlier today, I didn't plan to
watch it, but I knew we had to
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do a show.
I was like, yeah, I probably
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better watch it.
So I watched it earlier today.
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So that's just a disclaim I
wanted to put out for everybody.
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But the quick start was, I
guess, you know, hit or or
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getting the text from Curtis and
saying, hey, look at that, we
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scored y'all realized that we
hadn't scored a touchdown all
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year in the first quarter.
The only points that we had got.
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In the first quarter, I think
was the safety against Old
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Dominion.
It's not good, man.
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It's not freaking good.
But we all, we all.
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They gave us that.
It wasn't like we really earned
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it.
They just snapped the ball into
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the next damn city.
They gave us back 1 from 20. 20
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Yeah they you know we stepped we
stepped the ball into you know
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Williamsburg from from Norfolk
and we and they snapped 1 to
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rolling.
Blacksburg to Roanoke.
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So that's right, Mike.
What else?
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We hit a couple spots here.
There ain't many bright spots.
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What else went well in your
opinion?
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So this is for for 25 carries.
For Rasheena Lee.
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The rushing defense actually
played really well for 25
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carries.
Just want to emphasize.
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Disclaimer.
Disclaimer.
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He had more.
He had a couple more than 25.
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He had 27.
He had 27 for 174 and two
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touchdowns.
He also had 25 carries.
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He had 25 carries for 57 yards.
He had two carries for 117
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yards, 2 touchdowns.
So for 25 carries, the Russian
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defense was very, very good.
Which, I mean, it seems
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ridiculous to even bring this up
given, you know, those were two
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of the biggest plays of the game
right for Marshall's offense.
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But that was, in my opinion, it
was a step in the right
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direction for much of the game
against the run now.
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Of course, you look at the two
touchdown runs and what was the
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issue?
It was it was the run fits
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again, right?
And it's just, it keeps the
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rearing its ugly head.
But I was actually encouraged by
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the rushing defense for a good
portion of the game, even
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though, you know, it was the two
carries end up, you know,
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constant tech and it really just
led to the outcome.
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Yeah.
And and Mike, we were talking
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about it just before that.
You take those two runs out,
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they averaged 2.1 a carry.
Yeah, on the other 42 carries
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they had, they pounded the shit
out of the ball 2.1.
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Wouldn't you, though, Like, oh,
I would too.
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I mean, even if we're showing,
even if we're showing a
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propensity to stop the run
consistently, we're also showing
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that we will give up explosive
plays in the run game.
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So if you keep running the ball,
you're eventually going to hit
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something.
You're going to hit one.
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Now there's one other actually
bright spot.
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We forced 2 turnovers.
We forced 2 turnovers.
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We had two picks Saturday.
We didn't do anything with them,
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but it's still the whole.
One of those was part of the
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fast start.
So one of those worst part of
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the fast start.
But again, we have two picks and
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we are, I mean, what are we up
to five now?
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Turnovers.
I think we were at 7 total last
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year, yeah.
Something like that, Not many.
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Where's John?
We're on a better, we're on a
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better pace right now.
But yeah, you know we're going
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to talk about a little bit.
That's the part of the problem I
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have is that we're we're seeing.
Steps up in some areas and steps
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down in others.
And we we can't ever get those
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steps up to sync with the with
with not taking a step back.
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So it's true, all right.
Y'all Got anything else on what
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went well?
That's it.
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That's it.
Because that's it.
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We got a lot here.
We got a lot here for what went
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bad.
And I'm going to start this one
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out because this one is the one
that I think could have really
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changed it.
The what went bad.
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I think coach prize
hyperaggressive go forward on
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4th down up 7.
We're already got the lead.
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It's I think it's 4th and 3 1/2
from the 36.
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Brian you did the math. 47 yard
field goal.
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Kick it, kick it, You go up.
I think it was the 3032, it was
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32, but you when I texted you,
you said 47 yard field goal.
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We've seen John Love.
He's got the leg to get there.
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Take it.
You get them down 10.
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Nothing to Bonds point just a
few minutes ago.
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Now they might not be able to
just continue to pound the ball
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because okay, we're down.
We're down to scores.
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Now if if they stop us and we
get 2.12.12.1 we got a punt and
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we could be losing grass to this
game.
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Go ahead.
It's just football. one-on-one,
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too.
It's like most people know, when
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you get a turnover, what's the
first thing you want to do?
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You want to, you want to try to
go down the field, you want to
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try to take a shot right after a
turnover.
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You get the ball in plus
territory and you're only able
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to move it.
You know what?
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20 yards, I think 19 yards,
something like that.
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If that much.
Like why go for it on that 4th
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down when we can at least give
ourselves a chance, You know
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what I'm saying?
Like we just we weren't moving
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the ball very well, so there's
no reason to.
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Try to go for it there in my No,
no, no, no, no, Kelly, this was
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right after the scoring drive.
This was right after scoring Dr.
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We had just went six.
Plays and 74 yards.
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But I'm saying, I'm saying on
that drive, once we got the
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turnover, we weren't moving the
ball well enough to like have
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the confidence of my opinion
that just well we're going to
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throw it.
You know, because I think on
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that, on that 4th to Aaron play,
we threw it right, Like he
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threw.
A deep Yeah, he's coming right
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here.
Yeah, it's like, why go for that
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if you.
I mean, it's just the wrong call
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all around to me.
I would have rather kicked it
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there and go up to you because
off of a turnover, if you got
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the opportunity to get points,
let's get points.
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But if you're going to go for it
in that situation, I feel like
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go for it.
Go for what's been working.
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You know, if we've been gashing
them with the run and the
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quarterbacks legs have been
killing them, why not do that?
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Gentlemen, we know there's
nothing there.
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There's not a shortage of short
pass calls in the Tyler Bowen
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playbook.
We don't need to be throwing it
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30 yards down the field.
And he had three men on.
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I'm like, yeah, why throw it to
him?
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And some people say, well, when
Drone, if Drone starts, you got
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to give him the same energy.
Drones definitely gets the same
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energy.
Anybody who sets back there at
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quarterback is going to get the
same energy.
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You can't make that throw.
I don't care what kind of
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pressure you got, if you got the
legs that he has, you got to.
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You got to take off the run.
You have to.
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I get it.
But go ahead, Mike.
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No, I was just gonna.
I hated.
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I hated the play call.
I didn't hate the decision to go
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for it.
I was actually okay with that.
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I mean the 47 yard like if this
is inside 40 yards, right With
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Love I feel better about it.
I get love has the leg but from
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an accuracy standpoint, 47 yard
field goal, you miss it.
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You're giving a bunch of field
field position anyway, right?
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I'm of the opinion that.
You know, it's Brian's point on
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the short passing game.
I mean, Bowen calls short passes
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all game long and then we
decided to air it out deep down
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the sideline on 4th and three.
I hated the play call.
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I mean, it was the wrong read by
Drones 2, I think, right?
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I mean throwing it downfield, it
really well covered.
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I mean that had no shot of
getting completed.
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So I I just hated the play call.
But the decision to go for it, I
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was actually okay with.
I appreciate the aggressiveness
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because you know right out the
gate you go down and score,
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right?
And then you get in your
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reception.
And now for the first time all
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season really it feels like you
have some positive momentum like
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with a lead, right, Because
we've seen some positive
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momentum like coming back,
right.
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Purdue, you're down 17, Old
Dominion, you're kind of
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screwing around.
They have a good, you know, a
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good third quarter start to pull
away.
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But we, we haven't really seen
tech play from the lead much
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this year.
And so I was okay with the
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aggressive decision to go for
it.
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I just really hated the play
call.
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Mike said he was okay let pride
let his nuts hang a little bit
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on in that scenario.
Just.
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Be a.
Little bit of strategic with
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what you do with.
He wasn't okay with Bowen trying
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to let his nuts hang out going
for a touchdown and a triple
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coverage.
All right, the other one I got,
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and these are mine personally
because I wrote these out three
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and outs.
You know how many we had against
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Rutgers?
Mike maybe 3 and outs we had
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against Rutgers, we had zero. 0.
We had four versus Marshall and
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they came at the most
inopportune times and the worst
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times all game and it's that's
where it frustrates you because
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and I and I, I shouldn't say 3
and outs because you know 3 and
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outs 4 and outs because money
downs.
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We were three for 16.
We were dreadful after having a
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good game against Rutgers and
it's like, Brian, would you just
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say?
We took the steps up in the run
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game.
We look more competent moving
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the ball.
What do we do on the money
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downs?
What do we do on the three and
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outs?
Thanks.
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OK, right back down.
It's the old one step up, two
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steps back in every scenario and
and and and that and that really
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screwed because the way we were
moving the ball if we could have
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converted three more third
downs.
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I say 3 or 4, three to four more
third downs, not a great number,
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still still under 50%, but the
way we moved the ball numerous
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times against them that that
probably took one score off the
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board.
And if you're not so awful on
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3rd down in that second quarter,
you probably don't get quite
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that many points scored on you
in that quarter.
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And that was the quarter that
really flipped the game and put
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us behind the 8 ball pretty much
the rest of the way out.
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Yep, because it was fumble 3 and
out, three and out.
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And they went field goal or they
scored a touchdown, then they
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scored a field goal and we
didn't do anything to answer
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either one of those going to
have.
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So yeah, but what else?
What else do y'all have up here?
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We have a bunch of stuff written
out here.
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Who wants to tackle the next
one?
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I'll go go for one thing.
Offensive line pass pro was
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atrocious.
And we thought it was doing
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good, like the run the run stuff
was bad at first.
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Now the the pass Pro is
horrible.
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I think we we finally hit a team
that can rush the passer pretty
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well too and the guy that we
were concerned in this in this
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situation got absolutely worked
a bunch of key times gave up a
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sack bunch of like about five or
six.
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I think hurries surrendered.
I mean, it was, it was a bad
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night for for our right tackle.
And Mike, I'll let you go.
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I know you're about to say
something that I was, I was just
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gonna say it's almost like Tyler
Bowen should just roll the
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quarterback out like he was
doing against Rutgers.
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Why are we now having Kyron
drones be a dropback passer?
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I don't want to dive in this too
deep, cuz I'm gonna go on a
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little bit of a rant later on
this podcast about this.
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But why?
Why are we all of a sudden we're
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we're rolling him out against
Rutgers, getting him real
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comfortable, right?
Having him kind of feel the game
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out a little bit as a passer.
And then against Marshall we're
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we're just turning them into
like Peyton Manning like drop
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back like three or five step
drops.
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What are we doing with the
passing game?
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I.
Don't understand it.
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You want to know why we're doing
that?
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Inexperienced.
We have a inexperienced
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offensive coordinator that is
picking fucking Madden plays and
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hoping that you're going to
score on them.
458
00:24:48,610 --> 00:24:50,810
Inexperienced.
Prior.
459
00:24:50,810 --> 00:24:53,610
You need to go get some
experience in the coaching staff
460
00:24:53,970 --> 00:24:57,010
at those coordinator positions.
That's what the problem is.
461
00:24:57,570 --> 00:25:01,970
I was disappointed that that is.
So two things happened that kind
462
00:25:01,970 --> 00:25:06,810
of switched up the way this kind
of play calling went, right?
463
00:25:06,810 --> 00:25:10,330
So Bowen comes out the game,
he's calling run plays.
464
00:25:10,650 --> 00:25:14,410
He got Kyron drones going on a
quarterback power that he broke
465
00:25:14,410 --> 00:25:16,290
a tackling and went up for a
touchdown.
466
00:25:17,370 --> 00:25:20,690
Good opening scheme, right?
So the the, the play call sheet,
467
00:25:20,690 --> 00:25:23,250
he's like, I've scripted this,
it's good to go.
468
00:25:23,650 --> 00:25:26,140
And then?
The second drive you have two
469
00:25:26,140 --> 00:25:28,420
and put it on the ground.
We get we get it get back on it
470
00:25:28,420 --> 00:25:30,700
though we end up getting a field
goal range end up going forward
471
00:25:30,700 --> 00:25:34,300
on forth, down.
Then the drones fumble happens
472
00:25:34,340 --> 00:25:37,340
and it's like every every time
something bad happened on
473
00:25:37,340 --> 00:25:40,220
offense that butthole was
getting a little bit tighter and
474
00:25:40,220 --> 00:25:44,300
after that drones fumble it's
like all right Kyron you gonna
475
00:25:44,300 --> 00:25:46,620
be you gonna be thrown from the
pocket for for the next two
476
00:25:46,620 --> 00:25:47,860
quarters and you're gonna like
it.
477
00:25:48,620 --> 00:25:51,540
We're gonna have maybe 2 design
runs in the next two quarters
478
00:25:51,540 --> 00:25:52,620
for you and you're gonna like
it.
479
00:25:53,010 --> 00:25:55,530
That would be great if you have
people that was blocking.
480
00:25:55,970 --> 00:26:01,690
He was under duress every time,
the whole game, and the only way
481
00:26:01,770 --> 00:26:04,690
that you could beat that pass
rush was to roll the
482
00:26:04,690 --> 00:26:07,970
quarterback.
And if you've been coaching as
483
00:26:07,970 --> 00:26:10,530
long as some of these coaches
have been coaching, I don't
484
00:26:10,530 --> 00:26:14,170
understand why you don't see
this, which I'll get into what
485
00:26:14,570 --> 00:26:16,570
when we talk about some of our
stuff later on.
486
00:26:17,530 --> 00:26:21,970
Yeah, can we shout out Owen
Porter for absolutely working?
487
00:26:22,550 --> 00:26:24,590
Our tackles, but particularly
our right tackle.
488
00:26:25,590 --> 00:26:27,470
Listen, I'm on.
Let me let me say something
489
00:26:27,470 --> 00:26:31,150
right quick, #70, #70.
I don't want to call your name
490
00:26:31,150 --> 00:26:34,430
because I've done it too much
and I think you're a great kid
491
00:26:34,430 --> 00:26:36,870
and you're probably going to
make a great husband and you're
492
00:26:36,870 --> 00:26:39,950
a great son.
You are not a very good tackle
493
00:26:39,950 --> 00:26:42,070
at this point.
I'm going to tell you like I
494
00:26:42,070 --> 00:26:44,790
tell my own son that thirteen
years old, that plays football.
495
00:26:45,070 --> 00:26:48,270
He's not a football player, he's
a baseball player, told him last
496
00:26:48,270 --> 00:26:50,070
night.
They got beat 40 to 6.
497
00:26:50,510 --> 00:26:52,630
By a team that they shouldn't
have got beat 40 to 6.
498
00:26:52,630 --> 00:26:55,750
I say it Enjoy this next game
that you play because it's
499
00:26:55,750 --> 00:26:57,230
probably going to be your last
football game.
500
00:26:57,470 --> 00:26:59,470
You ain't playing no more.
That's it.
501
00:27:00,750 --> 00:27:04,350
We ain't time on football.
We're going to go do something
502
00:27:04,350 --> 00:27:07,750
this productive.
I'm gonna say to me, if you're a
503
00:27:07,750 --> 00:27:10,590
good Fisher, go buy you some
reels and rods, man.
504
00:27:11,990 --> 00:27:14,990
Go catch something as bass.
With that facial hair, if he's
505
00:27:14,990 --> 00:27:16,870
not a good Fisher, somebody did
something.
506
00:27:17,150 --> 00:27:21,190
It's almost hunting season, man.
We a few weeks away, Mike,
507
00:27:21,190 --> 00:27:25,030
anything to add on any of the
offensive stuff?
508
00:27:25,030 --> 00:27:28,790
Because what I said it was.
I called it Tyler Bowen being a
509
00:27:28,790 --> 00:27:31,910
Jekyll and Hyde because there
were times it was times it
510
00:27:31,910 --> 00:27:35,790
looked like genius, and it was
times it looked like what?
511
00:27:36,790 --> 00:27:44,120
Yeah, his lack of his, his lack.
I think his, I think his lack of
512
00:27:44,120 --> 00:27:48,440
creativity.
So the opening script was pretty
513
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,280
good.
Obviously go down and score
514
00:27:50,360 --> 00:27:53,560
great.
But when it comes to like big
515
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,920
moments in the game, you know he
won't roll the quarterback out.
516
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,920
He won't make life a little bit
easier on the offensive line.
517
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,520
He won't just be stubborn in
some ways and just stick with
518
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:08,330
the run because you know the
running game actually looked
519
00:28:08,330 --> 00:28:10,930
pretty good early on and then we
just went away from it.
520
00:28:12,210 --> 00:28:15,650
I just think that he goes
through these spurts in the
521
00:28:15,650 --> 00:28:18,650
middle of the game where he gets
so inconsistent.
522
00:28:18,970 --> 00:28:24,410
He's just very he's very
tentative like the tight
523
00:28:24,410 --> 00:28:29,450
butthole comment is like that is
that is that is the truth.
524
00:28:29,530 --> 00:28:34,120
I mean the the big time moments.
I mean, he's just kind of, I
525
00:28:34,120 --> 00:28:37,360
want to say shrivels up, but it
kind of feels that way, right?
526
00:28:37,360 --> 00:28:40,040
And you just, you have a feeling
in the big moments.
527
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,320
You know it's felt that way.
Obviously for the first two
528
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,000
years you just have a feeling in
the big moments.
529
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,040
The offense is just not going to
come through and that's a
530
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,360
terrible feeling.
Right.
531
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,720
I'll say this.
Let me let me talk about this
532
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,800
real quick though, because I've
seen this on both sides of the
533
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:57,240
ball, both coordinators and I
think this goes back to the
534
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,040
inexperience that Tally was
talking about it, what Mike you
535
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:03,120
were talking about, it seems
like in the moment.
536
00:29:04,450 --> 00:29:07,890
We get really conservative
because we don't, we don't want
537
00:29:07,890 --> 00:29:10,530
to roll the dice and take take a
chance that our players can make
538
00:29:10,530 --> 00:29:13,410
plays.
So we end up playing it very
539
00:29:13,410 --> 00:29:17,250
conservatively and then that
bites us in the ass.
540
00:29:17,250 --> 00:29:20,770
So thinking about it on defense,
every time we get there's the
541
00:29:20,770 --> 00:29:23,770
offense is as a check with big.
When we've got a blitz going,
542
00:29:24,090 --> 00:29:26,730
we've checked out of the blitz
almost every time.
543
00:29:27,970 --> 00:29:31,610
We don't say I'm going to trust
my guys to get home.
544
00:29:32,050 --> 00:29:34,290
And make this play work.
Yeah.
545
00:29:35,690 --> 00:29:38,970
Just like on the offensive side,
as soon as there's a first sign
546
00:29:38,970 --> 00:29:41,570
of trouble, we we get really
conservative, all right, We're
547
00:29:41,570 --> 00:29:44,410
going to essentially become an
Air raid offense for two
548
00:29:44,410 --> 00:29:48,570
quarters because we're we're
afraid to to run the football
549
00:29:48,570 --> 00:29:50,530
and and potentially put the ball
in the ground again.
550
00:29:50,530 --> 00:29:53,410
And we're afraid that if we
throw the ball deep, we might
551
00:29:53,410 --> 00:29:55,490
turn the ball over, like at some
point you got to let your
552
00:29:55,490 --> 00:29:57,250
players go out there and make
plays.
553
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:02,040
Yep, you got to become fearless
in in some point, regardless of
554
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:03,280
what you are as an offensive
coordinator.
555
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,200
Mike, I'm going to do a little
bit different before I pitch it
556
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,360
to you here.
I do think some of Tyler's play
557
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:12,040
calls are creative.
I think what you're saying is is
558
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,880
in tight moments he does not
want to get those creative play
559
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,360
calls going and it's like that's
the issue.
560
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,800
It's not that he doesn't design
creative plays.
561
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:24,040
It's like this is the time to
pull that creative roll out with
562
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,440
the with with with Benji Gosnell
trickling back.
563
00:30:29,170 --> 00:30:32,010
Right up the scene with a
crosser coming where they don't
564
00:30:32,010 --> 00:30:33,730
know where to go and he's
rolling.
565
00:30:33,850 --> 00:30:36,250
So the linebackers leaving their
space, the safeties are out of
566
00:30:36,250 --> 00:30:37,890
place.
That's what he doesn't know how
567
00:30:37,890 --> 00:30:38,850
to do.
Now agree.
568
00:30:39,450 --> 00:30:41,130
I agree with that.
I thought he called a pretty
569
00:30:41,130 --> 00:30:43,090
good game.
I might be in the minority here.
570
00:30:43,090 --> 00:30:44,970
I thought he called a pretty
good game against Rutgers.
571
00:30:44,970 --> 00:30:46,570
I thought that execution wasn't
there.
572
00:30:46,610 --> 00:30:48,810
I thought, I thought the play
calling was pretty good against
573
00:30:48,810 --> 00:30:50,730
Rutgers.
I thought the play calling early
574
00:30:50,730 --> 00:30:53,330
in this game was pretty good and
then he just went away from it.
575
00:30:53,490 --> 00:30:56,850
And you know, again, Tech was
playing from behind the 8 ball
576
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,960
right before halftime and then
on throughout the second-half
577
00:30:59,960 --> 00:31:03,160
and just kind of went away from
what was working early in the
578
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,240
game.
Yeah, it seemed like he didn't
579
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,480
go back to it until it's like,
all right, we're in desperation
580
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,040
mode where if we don't score on
this drive, this game is over.
581
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,120
And that's when he finally, like
the the switch finally clicked.
582
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,200
He was like, all right, maybe we
need to get back to the running
583
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,720
game.
Maybe we need to use drones in
584
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,400
the running game to generate
some offense cuz you weren't
585
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,280
generating it consistently
enough with.
586
00:31:25,900 --> 00:31:29,300
Air Raid concepts and a couple
of inside runs with Thomas and
587
00:31:29,820 --> 00:31:32,900
let's talk about it tootin was
very effective and Thomas had a
588
00:31:32,900 --> 00:31:35,900
lot of run in that second and
third quarter where he was very
589
00:31:35,900 --> 00:31:40,740
ineffective and we just kept him
on the field for drive after
590
00:31:40,740 --> 00:31:44,100
drive.
So that that kind of frustrated
591
00:31:44,100 --> 00:31:45,460
me too.
I don't know if that was a call
592
00:31:45,460 --> 00:31:48,740
by Brooks.
I don't know what The Who, who's
593
00:31:48,740 --> 00:31:51,860
controlling the rotation there
at at the running back position
594
00:31:52,180 --> 00:31:55,460
on a game day situation, but it
just felt like.
595
00:31:57,010 --> 00:31:59,890
We're getting back to a point in
this We had similar criticisms
596
00:31:59,890 --> 00:32:02,410
of the last office of
coordinator, like situational
597
00:32:02,410 --> 00:32:04,770
play calling is not where it
needs to be.
598
00:32:06,290 --> 00:32:08,050
And you don't need to be great
at it.
599
00:32:08,050 --> 00:32:10,770
You just need to be good at it.
You don't need to be great.
600
00:32:10,850 --> 00:32:12,490
You just need to be good.
All right, let's move on.
601
00:32:12,490 --> 00:32:15,810
Let's flip over to defense.
All right, Mike, The floor is
602
00:32:15,810 --> 00:32:17,450
yours, man.
Mike wanted to go on.
603
00:32:17,530 --> 00:32:19,450
This is this is the only reason
he came on here.
604
00:32:19,450 --> 00:32:21,170
Y'all he wanted to go on this
rant.
605
00:32:21,690 --> 00:32:28,390
So Mike Floor's yours, 2
carries, 117 yards and two
606
00:32:28,390 --> 00:32:32,510
touchdowns for Rachina Lee. 68
1/2 yards for carry, that's
607
00:32:32,550 --> 00:32:36,430
that's pretty good for two runs.
Then he also had 25 other runs,
608
00:32:36,430 --> 00:32:39,070
went for 57 yards and averages
over 2 yards per carry.
609
00:32:40,750 --> 00:32:45,430
The the run fit issues are just
unfathomable.
610
00:32:45,710 --> 00:32:48,990
I don't understand it.
Like the linebacker play in
611
00:32:48,990 --> 00:32:52,000
particular has been so bad, and
I get that.
612
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,640
There's there's personnel issue,
there's mismatched personnel.
613
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,560
Guys play in our position at
linebacker.
614
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,320
I get all that and they're
they're trying to get more
615
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,640
athletic and more talented.
There's no excuse for the run
616
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,400
fits.
That's that's got nothing like
617
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,200
being more athletic and getting
more talented at linebacker,
618
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,400
that's got nothing to do with
run fits, right?
619
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,760
Fill the gap on the right, You
call defense, you have a
620
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,000
defensive play call.
Fill the gap you're supposed to
621
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,280
fill.
And how many times this year
622
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,690
have we seen explosive runs
through the first four games?
623
00:33:21,850 --> 00:33:25,050
That should never have happened.
It's just fundamental football.
624
00:33:25,530 --> 00:33:28,130
I mean, that's all that it is.
It's just fundamental football.
625
00:33:28,330 --> 00:33:31,610
We can have a conversation about
Okay, linebackers aren't big
626
00:33:31,610 --> 00:33:32,730
enough or they're not fast
enough.
627
00:33:32,730 --> 00:33:34,410
Not like enough.
They're not wrapping up.
628
00:33:34,410 --> 00:33:37,050
We can have that conversation.
That's not what this is about.
629
00:33:37,530 --> 00:33:40,050
It's a run fit issue.
It's been a run fit issue and
630
00:33:40,050 --> 00:33:44,080
hasn't been corrected.
Brent Pride led unbelievably
631
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,840
good defense is a Penn State.
Like good defense is a
632
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,680
Vanderbilt under Franklin and he
comes here and I get that.
633
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,480
He wants to kind of bring Chris
Marvel along, have him under his
634
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,960
wing, have this defense like you
know in his image, right.
635
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,240
He's got that.
He's got the the scheme that he
636
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,440
wants to implement.
He's got the guy that he wants
637
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,640
to bring along and mentor,
right.
638
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:11,060
The issue is that PRI was over
involved defensively last year
639
00:34:11,060 --> 00:34:13,139
and I thought the defense
throughout the year, given how
640
00:34:13,139 --> 00:34:15,820
bad the offense was, I thought
the defense hung in there last
641
00:34:15,820 --> 00:34:19,460
year.
PRI is now more hands off and
642
00:34:19,620 --> 00:34:22,620
everything's going to hell.
Tech had some issues on defense
643
00:34:22,620 --> 00:34:24,820
last year.
It was run fit issues from time
644
00:34:24,820 --> 00:34:26,460
to time.
It wasn't like this though.
645
00:34:26,900 --> 00:34:30,980
This is unbelievable to me how
bad the run fits are and I get
646
00:34:30,980 --> 00:34:33,260
they're down to you know, you're
down to starting safeties.
647
00:34:33,260 --> 00:34:36,620
I get that you've had, you know,
injuries on the defense.
648
00:34:36,940 --> 00:34:39,710
I understand all of that, but
there's just no excuse for the
649
00:34:39,750 --> 00:34:43,190
for the run, fit issues through
four games now, right?
650
00:34:43,190 --> 00:34:46,190
We're going into conference play
against the Pittsburgh team and
651
00:34:46,190 --> 00:34:49,550
we'll talk about it in a bit.
It's not that great, right?
652
00:34:49,909 --> 00:34:53,790
Not very good.
And I've got zero confidence
653
00:34:53,790 --> 00:34:55,870
that this team's going to stop
the run on Saturday 0.
654
00:34:55,870 --> 00:34:58,830
Confidence because I think they
can do it in spurts.
655
00:34:59,190 --> 00:35:03,870
Obviously there was you know, 25
out of 27 carries by Ali on on
656
00:35:04,110 --> 00:35:06,270
on Saturday against Marshall.
They did it.
657
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,720
They're pretty good, pretty
good.
658
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,280
But it's the two that they
didn't which end up costing you
659
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,520
the football game.
And it's been kind of a week
660
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,800
over week thing and it's just
been inconsistency on the
661
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,760
defensive side of the football
has now become a hallmark of a
662
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,400
Brent Pride head coach team,
which is the problem.
663
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,240
It's the inconsistency of
stopping the run and that's what
664
00:35:26,240 --> 00:35:29,560
it is, because if you look at
the other metrics, Mike and I'm
665
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,200
sure you have and y'all probably
have too.
666
00:35:32,150 --> 00:35:33,710
We're like upper echelon pass
defense.
667
00:35:33,710 --> 00:35:36,070
Well, we always go back to,
well, if you can run the ball on
668
00:35:36,070 --> 00:35:37,230
us, you're not gonna pass the
ball.
669
00:35:37,270 --> 00:35:39,870
That makes sense.
We forced turnovers.
670
00:35:40,030 --> 00:35:44,310
We forced 3 interceptions.
We are a middle of the pack team
671
00:35:44,310 --> 00:35:45,950
in Tfls.
We are middle of the pack team
672
00:35:45,950 --> 00:35:47,910
in Sacs.
You start looking at the
673
00:35:47,910 --> 00:35:50,790
metrics, We're Okay.
It's stopping third down and it
674
00:35:50,790 --> 00:35:54,750
says Okay, We're Okay here.
It's the one glaring issue,
675
00:35:54,750 --> 00:35:57,270
right?
It's the one glaring issue that
676
00:35:57,270 --> 00:36:00,790
I think if you said it's somehow
between now and the end of next
677
00:36:00,790 --> 00:36:04,390
month, it can get fixed.
This team will go from us
678
00:36:04,390 --> 00:36:06,830
wanting to throw shit to
probably being like, you know
679
00:36:06,830 --> 00:36:09,350
what that used to be a 35 yard
run.
680
00:36:09,350 --> 00:36:10,710
It's a 10 yard run now.
Well.
681
00:36:11,830 --> 00:36:14,030
The thing.
Is down, yes, but it's not
682
00:36:14,030 --> 00:36:16,550
killing you.
And that's what the that's what
683
00:36:16,550 --> 00:36:18,390
it is.
Go back and look every game.
684
00:36:18,390 --> 00:36:20,390
This year we've played every
game.
685
00:36:21,110 --> 00:36:24,230
The big runs, the big runs, if
what's killed it, the big runs
686
00:36:24,230 --> 00:36:27,230
are why we're losing the games.
We can talk about the other
687
00:36:27,230 --> 00:36:30,030
shit, y'all know that.
But that's what's losing us.
688
00:36:30,030 --> 00:36:32,550
The games it's not.
Oh, we didn't.
689
00:36:32,550 --> 00:36:35,110
We lost them last year.
It lost them last year.
690
00:36:35,350 --> 00:36:37,270
I lost PIT last year.
Jesus Christ.
691
00:36:38,790 --> 00:36:40,510
We don't want to talk about pit
last year.
692
00:36:40,510 --> 00:36:42,270
We're talking about the pit this
year.
693
00:36:43,710 --> 00:36:45,310
We'll put, you know what, Brian,
but hold on, hold on.
694
00:36:45,310 --> 00:36:46,950
Can I say something real quick?
I'm going to give you a floor
695
00:36:46,950 --> 00:36:49,520
tally in a second.
We are stepped back.
696
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,760
We're in the pit to Georgia Tech
phase again.
697
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:57,240
We've taken that step back
because look at the games.
698
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,920
We're not getting the shit
kicked out of us like we did
699
00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:03,720
against UNC, like we did against
West Virginia, like some of
700
00:37:03,720 --> 00:37:08,160
those early games we're not.
It's that same threshold where
701
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:12,600
we were last year from PIT up to
Liberty, where we do one fucking
702
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,840
thing wrong.
We make one bad fit.
703
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:19,120
We screw up one bad penalty, one
holding, one false start, one
704
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,720
false start on Saturday, by the
way, 4th and one to 4th and 6th
705
00:37:22,720 --> 00:37:28,520
with the Game Online bitch.
It's one little do y'all see
706
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,800
what I'm saying?
It's like we thought we were
707
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,160
over that and now we're we're
right back in it.
708
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:38,440
Yeah, we were hoping this year
as Tally is is prone to say that
709
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,880
we were in the win by a little
stage, but we're back in the
710
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:45,770
lose by a little stage, so go.
Well, the thing that yeah,
711
00:37:45,770 --> 00:37:49,810
because the thing that's
concerning is like Brett Pride
712
00:37:49,810 --> 00:37:53,410
is a defensive coach.
You know, you came to a no
713
00:37:53,410 --> 00:37:56,210
matter what Virginia Tech wants
to be, they're known as a
714
00:37:56,210 --> 00:37:59,130
defensive school.
You know, like we've always been
715
00:37:59,130 --> 00:38:01,450
known to have a the lunch pail
defense.
716
00:38:02,130 --> 00:38:04,330
Take that away.
We don't have to be the lunch
717
00:38:04,330 --> 00:38:06,770
pail anymore because we can't
fucking stop nobody from
718
00:38:06,770 --> 00:38:09,650
scoring.
But anyway, Pride is a defensive
719
00:38:09,650 --> 00:38:13,130
coach and I just don't see him
like.
720
00:38:13,690 --> 00:38:17,490
With the fire, when things are
going wrong, because he's seen
721
00:38:17,490 --> 00:38:22,130
it like I I have no doubt that
he has in his mind how things
722
00:38:22,130 --> 00:38:24,730
are supposed to look and how he
can fix it.
723
00:38:25,290 --> 00:38:28,090
But standing on the sidelines
writing stuff down on a piece of
724
00:38:28,090 --> 00:38:32,170
paper ain't fixing it, you know,
Doing it at practice ain't
725
00:38:32,170 --> 00:38:34,300
fixing it.
Maybe in the game you need to
726
00:38:34,300 --> 00:38:37,420
get in a coach's ass or a
player's ass or put somebody
727
00:38:37,420 --> 00:38:38,820
else in.
I don't know what the right
728
00:38:38,820 --> 00:38:40,660
thing to do is.
That's why I'm not getting paid
729
00:38:40,940 --> 00:38:44,580
$4 million to coach the team.
I'm just saying as a defensive
730
00:38:44,580 --> 00:38:49,180
coach, going to a defensive
school, you can't keep having
731
00:38:49,180 --> 00:38:52,420
the same defensive problems and
think that everybody's going to
732
00:38:52,420 --> 00:38:55,500
be okay with it.
Like at some point you got to
733
00:38:55,500 --> 00:38:57,900
win.
And I don't just mean win on
734
00:38:57,900 --> 00:39:03,400
like in the win column, I mean.
Not have the explosive play.
735
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,160
They threw a touchdown and beat
us.
736
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:06,680
It's got to be something
different.
737
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,680
We keep saying the same thing,
the same thing over and over.
738
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,840
Kind of like what Mike said,
what Curtis said and for me it
739
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,240
it's the head coach like it's on
him.
740
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,600
It's the second year we're we're
regressing.
741
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:23,080
We're seeing the same thing over
that we've seen last year and
742
00:39:23,240 --> 00:39:27,320
hell, it's fucking it's.
Embarrassing at this point.
743
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,160
You know, you're getting
commentators that starting to
744
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:34,600
say stuff that are just like,
well, sooner or later, Virginia
745
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,960
Tech's going to have to leave or
have to do more than just have a
746
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:39,840
cool entrance.
They said something like that
747
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:41,960
the other day.
I've been saying that.
748
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,240
But when I hear somebody else
say, it pisses me off, you know,
749
00:39:45,240 --> 00:39:48,560
So the head coach and again,
like Mike said, and I'm going to
750
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:53,920
give it back to you, Curtis.
He was so great at press
751
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:57,590
conferences in the offseason.
I think he has to flip a switch
752
00:39:57,590 --> 00:40:01,910
now and he has to kind of like
Biggie said, you got to lean
753
00:40:01,910 --> 00:40:04,590
into the beef sometime.
You got to address the hard
754
00:40:04,590 --> 00:40:07,030
stuff.
You got to start saying, look, I
755
00:40:07,030 --> 00:40:10,630
hear what y'all are saying about
this team and we're going to fix
756
00:40:10,630 --> 00:40:13,070
it.
If we got to scorch the earth,
757
00:40:13,070 --> 00:40:16,190
we're going to make sure that
this works instead of just doing
758
00:40:16,190 --> 00:40:19,430
the hey, we going to make it.
It's going to be okay.
759
00:40:19,630 --> 00:40:22,830
We kind of get now we do it.
Hey man, stop the stop the sweet
760
00:40:22,830 --> 00:40:24,540
talking.
You know what I want?
761
00:40:24,660 --> 00:40:27,060
You know what I want?
You talk about the Big E blind.
762
00:40:27,340 --> 00:40:29,860
I want to enter defensive
coordinator in him to come out
763
00:40:30,140 --> 00:40:32,340
because defensive coordinators
don't act like that on the
764
00:40:32,340 --> 00:40:34,300
sidelines.
We saw Bud for years.
765
00:40:34,300 --> 00:40:36,420
We even saw you ever watch some
of the Penn State games.
766
00:40:36,660 --> 00:40:39,180
He was a fiery guy on the.
Yeah, exactly.
767
00:40:39,220 --> 00:40:43,380
He's got to find that because I
think that's what's missing on
768
00:40:43,500 --> 00:40:45,460
that side of the ball.
I think so.
769
00:40:45,460 --> 00:40:49,540
On that side of the ball and we
said and and we sat down like
770
00:40:49,580 --> 00:40:51,140
for the Purdue game we were
right behind the bench.
771
00:40:51,340 --> 00:40:54,660
Chris Mark give Chris Mark
credit Chris Mark did have fire
772
00:40:54,660 --> 00:40:58,940
on the sidelines you we saw him
like getting in guys faces
773
00:40:58,940 --> 00:41:02,420
grabbing face masks hitting you
know doing the old thing like
774
00:41:02,420 --> 00:41:04,580
good job probably was calm the
whole game.
775
00:41:05,380 --> 00:41:09,300
I think what it is is a lot of
the team is following that.
776
00:41:09,300 --> 00:41:11,620
Yeah, you need to be cool under
pressure, but sometimes you got
777
00:41:11,860 --> 00:41:14,900
as as we say it on this program,
like, I'll let you nuts hang.
778
00:41:15,300 --> 00:41:17,140
He's got to let his nuts sang in
somebody's face.
779
00:41:17,420 --> 00:41:20,660
The prime opportunity,
especially as bad as run fits
780
00:41:20,660 --> 00:41:23,300
would have been, was getting
after Will Johnson when he
781
00:41:23,300 --> 00:41:25,660
missed that fit on that first
touchdown run.
782
00:41:25,900 --> 00:41:29,180
Like, literally come here.
Why are you looking where the
783
00:41:29,180 --> 00:41:31,580
quarterback's going?
You are in B gap.
784
00:41:31,740 --> 00:41:34,500
You get the fuck to B Gap and
you stop his ass.
785
00:41:34,980 --> 00:41:37,540
I don't care if you just get an
arm or if you get a part of a
786
00:41:37,540 --> 00:41:39,140
leg.
Guess what that's going to do?
787
00:41:39,140 --> 00:41:42,350
That's going to make clean up a
lot easier 10 yards down the
788
00:41:42,350 --> 00:41:44,510
field than it is 61 in the end
zone.
789
00:41:46,590 --> 00:41:51,030
Anything else from Saturday?
I'll play for you anytime,
790
00:41:51,030 --> 00:41:51,870
Curtis.
Jesus.
791
00:41:52,990 --> 00:41:55,830
I thought Curtis Red is always a
fun thing.
792
00:41:56,110 --> 00:41:58,550
Yeah, I thought about playing
for Curtis until he just said
793
00:41:58,550 --> 00:42:00,710
somebody needs to let the nuts
hang in somebody's face.
794
00:42:02,150 --> 00:42:03,790
Definitely.
Just take everybody's face.
795
00:42:04,110 --> 00:42:07,050
I promise you, you did.
No.
796
00:42:07,690 --> 00:42:09,290
Well, you go back and listen to
this.
797
00:42:10,090 --> 00:42:10,930
Why?
You better not.
798
00:42:11,170 --> 00:42:13,530
You better not edit it.
I'm not editing it out the
799
00:42:13,530 --> 00:42:14,850
teabag.
I'm not editing it out.
800
00:42:14,850 --> 00:42:21,010
The Teabag Man Teabag stays in.
What else do we see from
801
00:42:21,010 --> 00:42:28,170
Saturday that that was bad?
I mean, we went through bouts
802
00:42:28,170 --> 00:42:30,450
where we're not, we're getting
consistent pressure.
803
00:42:30,450 --> 00:42:33,970
I mean, I know they weren't
throwing the ball very much, but
804
00:42:33,970 --> 00:42:38,010
I feel like.
Since ODUI haven't seen the
805
00:42:38,050 --> 00:42:39,810
consistent pressure that I want
to see.
806
00:42:39,810 --> 00:42:42,210
I think we're we're getting some
hurries but we're not getting
807
00:42:42,210 --> 00:42:46,170
home and getting those sacks and
getting them in long down and
808
00:42:46,170 --> 00:42:49,610
distant situations that would
benefit our team and help on
809
00:42:49,610 --> 00:42:52,410
those downs where we're
surrendering these long ass
810
00:42:52,410 --> 00:42:55,050
runs.
You know they might be throwing
811
00:42:55,050 --> 00:42:58,370
the ball if we can get them in
3rd and 12 and 3rd and 9
812
00:42:58,370 --> 00:43:03,250
consistently.
I got.
813
00:43:03,290 --> 00:43:09,010
I got one piece for y'all and
we're not we're not the worst
814
00:43:09,010 --> 00:43:10,610
team in the country and I'm the
bottom 10.
815
00:43:10,610 --> 00:43:14,930
We're, I think we're like 72nd,
but it's the penalties and it's
816
00:43:14,930 --> 00:43:20,090
the stupid penalties, 6 fall
starts, 6 fall starts.
817
00:43:20,090 --> 00:43:22,930
We're regressing there again.
We're regressing there again.
818
00:43:23,090 --> 00:43:26,210
We're regressing there again.
And then we had a couple
819
00:43:26,210 --> 00:43:30,770
offsides and I know I got two
guys here, one play D line, they
820
00:43:30,770 --> 00:43:32,490
both played on the offensive
line.
821
00:43:33,650 --> 00:43:36,610
That's that's them.
Y'all said it before Italian
822
00:43:36,610 --> 00:43:38,570
Brian.
Like that's that's not coaching,
823
00:43:39,170 --> 00:43:41,690
that's you.
You're supposed to do your job.
824
00:43:41,690 --> 00:43:42,770
You know what you're supposed to
do?
825
00:43:44,330 --> 00:43:48,610
That's that's thinking too much
about other stuff and not not
826
00:43:48,610 --> 00:43:53,330
staying focused on what the task
at hand is because and and I
827
00:43:53,330 --> 00:43:56,690
know they're practicing enough
where from a mental Rep
828
00:43:56,690 --> 00:43:59,450
standpoint, this should not be a
problem.
829
00:43:59,970 --> 00:44:01,570
I'm I'm not concerned about
that.
830
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:06,200
Because if you're repping it and
you're repping these situational
831
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,240
calls where you're going on a
different count, are you, are
832
00:44:10,240 --> 00:44:13,680
you doing this even in an even
in a hostile environment like
833
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:14,840
Marshall?
I know that's not, you know,
834
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,640
hostile.
I'll use quotes here.
835
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:21,520
It's a road game, right?
So I mean that that really
836
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:25,400
shouldn't be a a problem, that
that is you thinking too much
837
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:29,240
about your assignment or you got
beat last time and you're trying
838
00:44:29,240 --> 00:44:32,370
to get one back.
And all this other stuff, and
839
00:44:32,370 --> 00:44:35,050
now you know you're doing too
much.
840
00:44:35,530 --> 00:44:38,130
Do less.
It's fear.
841
00:44:38,170 --> 00:44:40,170
That's, that's what it is.
I hate to say that as an
842
00:44:40,170 --> 00:44:44,890
offensive lineman, tight in a
lot of times jumping outside is
843
00:44:44,890 --> 00:44:47,810
fear.
Or if you seen even like wide
844
00:44:47,810 --> 00:44:50,050
receivers or somebody jumps at
them and they flinch.
845
00:44:50,450 --> 00:44:54,450
It's fear, you know, because
you're reacting to what's going
846
00:44:54,450 --> 00:44:56,570
on around you or what the other
person is doing.
847
00:44:56,850 --> 00:45:01,010
I've talked about it before.
When you're on that line, it's a
848
00:45:01,010 --> 00:45:03,050
lot of stuff that's being said.
You know, you got the
849
00:45:03,050 --> 00:45:05,970
quarterback making calls, you
got your center supposed to be
850
00:45:05,970 --> 00:45:09,010
calling some things out.
You got their defensive captain,
851
00:45:09,090 --> 00:45:10,730
probably linebacker making some
calls.
852
00:45:10,970 --> 00:45:14,170
You got your lineman switching
and moving and you got lineman
853
00:45:14,330 --> 00:45:18,690
that's probably talking shit.
And if I did to 70 what 55 did,
854
00:45:18,970 --> 00:45:21,010
I would be saying do y'all know
what I'm about to do.
855
00:45:21,010 --> 00:45:22,810
I'm going to go kill your
quarterback.
856
00:45:23,010 --> 00:45:24,490
I'm about to fuck y'all up
again.
857
00:45:24,770 --> 00:45:26,570
We'll get some Alvin Mac folks
in here.
858
00:45:27,250 --> 00:45:29,260
Exactly.
Bad.
859
00:45:29,260 --> 00:45:31,820
We don't even talk about this
movie right now.
860
00:45:31,940 --> 00:45:37,020
But, well, last piece.
You can see the fear, you see
861
00:45:37,020 --> 00:45:40,380
the fear on our offensive line
and I think it's what pisses me
862
00:45:40,380 --> 00:45:41,980
off.
Go ahead Curtis.
863
00:45:42,580 --> 00:45:45,900
Well the last piece I got and it
goes back to some we talked
864
00:45:45,900 --> 00:45:49,340
about probably 20 minutes ago.
Now is we are having another,
865
00:45:49,340 --> 00:45:52,420
again, lack of complimentary
football because we forced the
866
00:45:52,420 --> 00:45:53,540
turnover.
We get nothing.
867
00:45:54,100 --> 00:45:57,460
We have a string of them going 3
and outs.
868
00:45:57,460 --> 00:46:00,200
We get nothing.
Prac keeps preaching it,
869
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,080
complimenting football,
complimenting football.
870
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,360
Eventually you got to do
something.
871
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,000
And The thing is, everything.
We're kind of leading up to
872
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,440
this, right?
It's great.
873
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,320
Those those four drives, they
could not run the ball, they
874
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,320
could not pass the ball.
But you know what?
875
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,920
You were so conservative and you
were tight.
876
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:21,580
You didn't attack.
You didn't attack just like
877
00:46:21,780 --> 00:46:23,780
Y'all were talking about take
somebody put on here a while
878
00:46:23,780 --> 00:46:27,140
ago, Why didn't we take a shot
on 1st down when we were right
879
00:46:27,140 --> 00:46:29,900
there after the turnover?
That's your prime time take a
880
00:46:29,900 --> 00:46:32,780
shot.
So it's it's this whole, if you
881
00:46:32,780 --> 00:46:35,780
won't call any football, you've
got to do the right things in
882
00:46:35,780 --> 00:46:39,180
those points.
And right now we're not seeing
883
00:46:39,180 --> 00:46:41,580
it.
And the bad thing is we're
884
00:46:41,580 --> 00:46:44,150
seeing pieces here and there.
All right, Y'all got anything
885
00:46:44,150 --> 00:46:46,350
else on what went bad?
Because I think we just went 20
886
00:46:46,350 --> 00:46:48,910
minutes or 25 minutes on what
went bad.
887
00:46:49,950 --> 00:46:51,990
Yeah.
And I mean, I'll, I'll finish
888
00:46:51,990 --> 00:46:54,710
one more thing here, wrap it up,
let's take you to the next one.
889
00:46:54,830 --> 00:46:57,510
Yeah, you you talk about the the
complimentary football, but it's
890
00:46:57,510 --> 00:47:03,310
also it's like we we can't seem
to do each of those.
891
00:47:03,310 --> 00:47:06,030
Like you have buckets of things,
things you have like you do
892
00:47:06,030 --> 00:47:07,990
every week, right.
These are the things we need to
893
00:47:07,990 --> 00:47:11,300
do this week and like.
One bucket will look good for
894
00:47:11,300 --> 00:47:13,660
1/4 and another bucket will look
good for 1/4.
895
00:47:13,660 --> 00:47:16,780
Another like a different quarter
and but we're not piercing
896
00:47:16,780 --> 00:47:19,820
together other than like coming
out of the gate in the first
897
00:47:19,820 --> 00:47:22,300
quarter.
We did never piece the rest of
898
00:47:22,300 --> 00:47:26,060
the game together where everyone
all of those buckets were kind
899
00:47:26,060 --> 00:47:29,540
of working In Sync, yeah.
And that's only for like a
900
00:47:29,540 --> 00:47:31,340
couple of possessions in the
first quarter too.
901
00:47:31,340 --> 00:47:34,060
You know, it wasn't even, I know
it was a it was a pretty quick
902
00:47:34,060 --> 00:47:36,700
quarter, but it was really just
those first.
903
00:47:37,030 --> 00:47:39,150
You know, it was the the one
offensive procession and where
904
00:47:39,150 --> 00:47:42,110
they, you know, go out and
score, get the interception and
905
00:47:42,270 --> 00:47:44,790
then that was about it.
Then it just kind of stopped,
906
00:47:44,790 --> 00:47:46,110
right?
Especially on the offensive
907
00:47:46,110 --> 00:47:48,550
side.
All righty.
908
00:47:48,550 --> 00:47:50,630
All right, let's move on to the
next one.
909
00:47:50,630 --> 00:47:52,750
Cuz we've talked enough about
that we probably could talk
910
00:47:52,750 --> 00:47:55,510
another 15 minutes about it, but
eventually we have to move on.
911
00:47:55,510 --> 00:47:59,390
We have a lot more stuff talk
about and the next piece is, did
912
00:47:59,430 --> 00:48:01,870
anything happen that you were
not prepared for?
913
00:48:01,870 --> 00:48:04,510
I'm gonna just tell you all
this, nothing shocks me anymore
914
00:48:04,630 --> 00:48:09,460
right now with this team.
Nope, it likes to me.
915
00:48:11,660 --> 00:48:16,100
I got a kind of positive, I got
a kind of +1 that I was really
916
00:48:16,100 --> 00:48:20,420
prepared for.
So I we haven't seen a lot of of
917
00:48:20,420 --> 00:48:24,980
drones, you know him coming from
Baylor and then him practicing
918
00:48:24,980 --> 00:48:27,260
and that's not now this is not
the pat him on the back because
919
00:48:27,260 --> 00:48:30,820
he still has to get better.
But I was shocked at how.
920
00:48:31,700 --> 00:48:34,220
How strong he is.
If you watch some of his runs,
921
00:48:34,220 --> 00:48:38,180
he's starting to fall forward on
that touchdown run, he wasn't
922
00:48:38,180 --> 00:48:41,660
supposed supposed to score.
I mean, he was locked up and he
923
00:48:41,660 --> 00:48:43,700
broke out of there.
And not only did he break out of
924
00:48:43,700 --> 00:48:47,860
there, he accelerated, you know?
So that kind of shocked me.
925
00:48:48,100 --> 00:48:50,220
Now that takes me to kind of
another point.
926
00:48:51,940 --> 00:48:54,900
Once you start seeing somebody
game, once you start seeing
927
00:48:54,900 --> 00:48:57,660
somebody be a gamer, you got to
build off of that.
928
00:48:57,900 --> 00:49:02,060
If you see that he has that.
You got to let him cook.
929
00:49:02,060 --> 00:49:05,180
You got to let him do that.
Hey man, you remember in the
930
00:49:05,180 --> 00:49:08,940
first quarter or you got bottled
up and that you didn't go down.
931
00:49:08,940 --> 00:49:11,060
You kept your legs turning.
I need that.
932
00:49:11,060 --> 00:49:13,620
We need 3 yards.
That's what we got to see.
933
00:49:14,020 --> 00:49:17,140
I'm going to ask you a question
to y'all because I don't know
934
00:49:17,140 --> 00:49:18,860
the answer.
I wish I had Shelton here.
935
00:49:19,220 --> 00:49:23,460
How many offensive coordinators
and quarterback coaches are in
936
00:49:23,460 --> 00:49:27,140
the in the booth like across
college football?
937
00:49:27,900 --> 00:49:34,410
Do y'all know I I can I do not
know that I'll I'll I forget
938
00:49:34,410 --> 00:49:37,090
while y'all talk about it.
Well, it just seems to me
939
00:49:37,570 --> 00:49:42,610
because of what Tebow is
supposed to be, you know, he's
940
00:49:42,610 --> 00:49:44,730
coaching the quarterbacks and
they said, oh, he's close to
941
00:49:44,730 --> 00:49:48,010
those guys.
And you have a quarterback there
942
00:49:48,010 --> 00:49:52,290
now in Kyron Drones that has
been playing that's very young,
943
00:49:53,090 --> 00:49:55,810
but his skill set is a little
bit different from somebody like
944
00:49:55,810 --> 00:49:59,160
Grant.
Would it not help if he's there
945
00:49:59,240 --> 00:50:03,600
on the sideline and can talk to
him and see what he's seeing and
946
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,360
they can have that commentary
instead of he get off.
947
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,440
You got to pick up the phone.
You know you.
948
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,040
I don't know, man.
It's just it's a it's a lot of
949
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:12,680
stuff that goes on in that
coaching stuff that I don't
950
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,520
understand.
This is this is where having
951
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:19,600
Bowen be both the OC and the QB
coach, I think becomes a little
952
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,360
bit of a problem, I think
because of what you just said.
953
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:24,680
And that's a really good point.
That's something I actually
954
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,320
hadn't even thought about.
And there are a lot of reasons
955
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:28,920
why.
So I I was actually originally
956
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,440
okay with Bowen being the
quarterbacks coach.
957
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,160
Like, I didn't love it, but I
understood it Now.
958
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,000
I'm not as big of a fan of it
and Tally.
959
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,600
I think that was a great point.
And now it's making me wonder
960
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:42,960
like I'm good with the OC being
in the booth normally, right?
961
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:44,680
Sees, sees the whole field and
all that.
962
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,120
But usually you got the
quarterback coach on the field,
963
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,880
right?
You got you know you you used to
964
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,200
have Glen on the field just
there and you know talk to wells
965
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,600
last year don't have that
anymore so.
966
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:57,520
Yeah, I don't know what the
right answer is there.
967
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,080
That's a great point.
And I think that would be okay
968
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:04,680
if you had a experienced
offensive coordinator and an
969
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,760
experienced quarterback coach.
But Bowen is neither right now.
970
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,240
Yeah.
So it's kind of that double
971
00:51:11,240 --> 00:51:15,720
whammy and as someone that has
been on the been on the sideline
972
00:51:15,720 --> 00:51:18,920
and been in a booth and in a
game situation talking about you
973
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:22,160
in the booth.
I hated being the booth.
974
00:51:23,490 --> 00:51:26,810
I mean, I'm an energy guy.
I I need the energy of the
975
00:51:26,810 --> 00:51:30,250
sideline to kind of get in the
right mindset and like get hyper
976
00:51:30,250 --> 00:51:32,290
focused on what I'm seeing being
in the booth.
977
00:51:32,290 --> 00:51:35,890
It was too detached from that
for me.
978
00:51:36,650 --> 00:51:41,210
And I feel like with when you
got a inexperienced quarterback,
979
00:51:41,530 --> 00:51:44,690
you got an inexperienced
coordinator and and he's
980
00:51:44,690 --> 00:51:47,370
inexperienced at coaching the
quarterback position.
981
00:51:48,310 --> 00:51:51,190
Any way that they can engage
more dynamically on the
982
00:51:51,190 --> 00:51:54,150
sideline, I feel like would be a
good thing in terms of both
983
00:51:54,230 --> 00:51:56,190
Bowen's growth and drones
growth.
984
00:51:58,150 --> 00:52:01,590
I'm I'm with you on that and I
think it's you'll make really
985
00:52:01,590 --> 00:52:03,990
good points across about he
needs to be down there.
986
00:52:03,990 --> 00:52:06,830
But the question is who do you
put in the booth then you're
987
00:52:06,830 --> 00:52:08,630
going to have, you're going to
have.
988
00:52:08,630 --> 00:52:11,470
Right now there's only one guy
up there, Cuz Fontel's on the
989
00:52:11,470 --> 00:52:13,390
field, Crook's on the field and
Stew's on the field.
990
00:52:13,390 --> 00:52:16,160
And I see it.
Four of the offensive coaching
991
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:20,080
staff members are on the field.
It's only Bowen and probably an
992
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:24,240
analyst up in the booth.
If you bring him down, who goes
993
00:52:24,240 --> 00:52:24,720
up?
It's not.
994
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:26,080
It's got to be.
It's got to be.
995
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:29,320
Brooks.
It's got to be Brooks and I
996
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:32,800
don't know how often Brooks has
been up there, but I will say
997
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:36,680
this and and you know Coach
Pride, if you listen to this, we
998
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:38,440
still love you.
Please come back next year.
999
00:52:40,240 --> 00:52:44,240
But let's be realistic though.
We have seen pride make changes.
1000
00:52:44,570 --> 00:52:46,370
He's not afraid to do something
different.
1001
00:52:46,370 --> 00:52:48,810
We saw it in the offseason.
We've already seen it this
1002
00:52:48,810 --> 00:52:52,210
season because remember last
year, Glenn and Bowen were in
1003
00:52:52,210 --> 00:52:55,450
the booth, then Glenn came down
later in the season.
1004
00:52:56,450 --> 00:53:03,330
Remember that, that to his
credit, he will make the changes
1005
00:53:03,770 --> 00:53:05,730
and then you just have to decide
who goes up.
1006
00:53:05,730 --> 00:53:08,890
Because right now, if y'all look
it's Fontelle is effectively the
1007
00:53:08,890 --> 00:53:14,100
guy getting the huddle, calling
those first set of plays and
1008
00:53:14,100 --> 00:53:16,300
sending them to the field.
He's the juice guy.
1009
00:53:16,300 --> 00:53:18,180
He's also getting getting the
calls in.
1010
00:53:18,540 --> 00:53:21,460
But the other thing is you see a
lot of times and y'all follow a
1011
00:53:21,460 --> 00:53:24,260
lot of football.
Usually the wide receivers coach
1012
00:53:24,380 --> 00:53:27,500
is up in the booth to
effectively see what's the
1013
00:53:27,500 --> 00:53:30,700
backs, coverages and to see what
routes or should we rerunning
1014
00:53:30,700 --> 00:53:32,300
into.
So we'll see how that goes.
1015
00:53:32,740 --> 00:53:34,500
All right.
Anything else?
1016
00:53:35,780 --> 00:53:37,940
Brian, you already mentioned
your anything else y'all we're
1017
00:53:37,940 --> 00:53:39,860
not prepared for.
Tally went positive there.
1018
00:53:42,270 --> 00:53:48,190
As positive as you could be
after losing the Marshall, I'm
1019
00:53:48,190 --> 00:53:49,750
laughing at comments here.
So.
1020
00:53:49,790 --> 00:53:54,030
Yeah, I was reading that too.
And Jerry still let it, man.
1021
00:53:58,190 --> 00:54:01,510
Listen, we we we can't fire
somebody every 15 games.
1022
00:54:02,030 --> 00:54:03,910
Y'all y'all got to put that in
your head.
1023
00:54:03,950 --> 00:54:05,710
Where's the money coming from?
Where's the?
1024
00:54:05,830 --> 00:54:08,310
Because if you pull him out
right now, if you can pay 23 and
1025
00:54:08,310 --> 00:54:11,140
a half million dollars stroke to
check, get him out, nobody'd
1026
00:54:11,140 --> 00:54:12,460
have a problem.
Are we still?
1027
00:54:12,500 --> 00:54:14,020
Paying for Are we still paying
for Winte?
1028
00:54:14,020 --> 00:54:17,660
We're still paying for Winte.
That's why I thought so.
1029
00:54:17,780 --> 00:54:20,740
If you got 33 million, stroke it
to the athletic department.
1030
00:54:20,740 --> 00:54:23,900
We can get rid of pride.
Yeah, shit don't work like that.
1031
00:54:23,900 --> 00:54:26,380
You can't just fire, fire fire
fire, by the way.
1032
00:54:26,420 --> 00:54:28,220
We don't have Tennessee booster
money.
1033
00:54:29,140 --> 00:54:30,500
Tennessee didn't even do that
shit.
1034
00:54:30,500 --> 00:54:32,980
They gave guys three years at
least before they fired him.
1035
00:54:34,260 --> 00:54:36,460
Y'all this ain't mad and this
ain't college football on your
1036
00:54:36,460 --> 00:54:38,820
PlayStation.
You've got to look through the
1037
00:54:38,820 --> 00:54:42,880
lens of if it goes really bad
this year, he's got next year to
1038
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,160
win a lot of games and that's
it.
1039
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:49,040
But I think we also this year
and he turns it around this year
1040
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:53,680
by the way and ready.
All love, baby.
1041
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:55,120
All love.
All love.
1042
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,320
We we get heated.
No we get heated.
1043
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,960
We won't our program to be good
because we've seen it good.
1044
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,800
And I think the other thing, so
we'll say this real quick just
1045
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:06,560
to kind of piggyback on that,
you know, when we talk about
1046
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:10,000
this whole coaching thing like.
I love what Dion's doing in
1047
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,360
Colorado.
That's not something that you
1048
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:16,880
can replicate in every scenario
across the country one.
1049
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:21,000
Of 1, Even when you talk about
bringing in a former player,
1050
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:26,000
like highest profile possible,
it's Dion is Dion.
1051
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,560
Dion's always been Dion one of
one.
1052
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:34,120
There's like he's one of one and
there's only like maybe two or
1053
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:37,840
three other guys even in that
category that.
1054
00:55:38,230 --> 00:55:40,630
Took the path that he took to
kind of get there, right?
1055
00:55:40,630 --> 00:55:42,950
So hold on, hold on.
You want to talk about Dion?
1056
00:55:43,390 --> 00:55:46,870
He started coaching high school
football over a decade ago.
1057
00:55:48,070 --> 00:55:50,110
He started coaching high school
football.
1058
00:55:50,950 --> 00:55:53,910
He did from 12 to 13.
Then he went to Trinity
1059
00:55:53,910 --> 00:55:56,990
Christian, which I believe is a
pretty top notch where he was an
1060
00:55:56,990 --> 00:55:58,190
OC.
Wagon.
1061
00:55:59,510 --> 00:56:03,030
Then he went to Jackson State.
Dion just didn't jump into
1062
00:56:03,030 --> 00:56:05,870
Colorado.
Dion took this as his path.
1063
00:56:06,570 --> 00:56:11,290
Deon started this in 2012.
Did everybody know that?
1064
00:56:11,290 --> 00:56:13,450
Did everybody know Deon was
coaching high school football in
1065
00:56:13,450 --> 00:56:16,570
Texas for damn near 8 years
where he took to Jackson State
1066
00:56:16,570 --> 00:56:17,490
job?
Nobody did.
1067
00:56:18,010 --> 00:56:19,770
If you did, you ain't been
paying attention.
1068
00:56:20,850 --> 00:56:23,730
I'll go on a small a small
tangent here just so people
1069
00:56:24,010 --> 00:56:26,410
understand how, because they
talk about the culture and
1070
00:56:26,410 --> 00:56:27,890
stuff.
And I guess I got to be the
1071
00:56:27,890 --> 00:56:32,330
black spokesperson for this.
So a lot of people have hitched
1072
00:56:32,330 --> 00:56:36,850
their wagon to Deon because.
High talks, high dresses, things
1073
00:56:36,850 --> 00:56:42,930
that he does with his team, how
outspoken he is, which beyond
1074
00:56:42,930 --> 00:56:45,290
coaches like he played.
He's prime time.
1075
00:56:45,730 --> 00:56:48,490
He's the only person who can do
that and get away with that.
1076
00:56:49,010 --> 00:56:52,570
There is a lot of black coaches
out there too, and I want to say
1077
00:56:52,570 --> 00:56:58,530
a lot as in millions, hundreds,
thousands, 20, but I'm saying
1078
00:56:58,530 --> 00:57:00,450
there's a lot of good black
coaches out there.
1079
00:57:00,450 --> 00:57:03,330
You talk about Locksley, you
talk about.
1080
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:07,680
James Franklin, You know those
guys are undefeated right now.
1081
00:57:07,720 --> 00:57:11,520
You know when you talk about
black coaches being at big time
1082
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:16,520
programs, I say all that to say,
the thing that bothers me about
1083
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:22,320
Dion is that I feel that and I
don't want to mess this up.
1084
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:23,880
But he's put a target on his
back.
1085
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:27,880
He's put a target on his team's
back and now they got to live up
1086
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,400
to it.
You know, I know they only won
1087
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:32,480
one game last year, no games
last year.
1088
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,590
They won three.
Great job.
1089
00:57:35,870 --> 00:57:38,630
But going and getting Curb
stopped by Oregon didn't look
1090
00:57:38,630 --> 00:57:41,190
good.
And then now you got USC that
1091
00:57:41,190 --> 00:57:43,870
you got an answer to and you're
a 20 point underdog and that.
1092
00:57:44,190 --> 00:57:47,230
And then you know he goes and he
says, well they better get me
1093
00:57:47,230 --> 00:57:48,750
now because it's the worst I'm
going to be.
1094
00:57:48,950 --> 00:57:52,430
I've heard that before and his
name was Justin Fuente.
1095
00:57:53,470 --> 00:57:56,830
That comment didn't doesn't
resonate that well with me.
1096
00:57:56,830 --> 00:58:00,550
So Dion has a lot of work to do
with his players and his team.
1097
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,360
If he wants to go to that next
level and start to, you know,
1098
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:06,600
win those big time games and
things like that, Kudos the deal
1099
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:09,840
for what he's doing though.
All right, all right, y'all
1100
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,520
let's just talk real quick
because we've got two more
1101
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:15,760
things before we hit break here.
What can we do better moving
1102
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:17,640
forward?
Brian, I'm going to let you
1103
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:22,280
leave this because we we've been
talking about 70 a lot.
1104
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:28,000
Yeah, you got to get Brody at
left at right tackle there.
1105
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:30,520
Get Brody Meadows at right
tackle.
1106
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:33,800
I know he's mostly played guard
so far in the season, but
1107
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:37,680
there's a when we when we look
at the 2D, Brody's listed as the
1108
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:41,200
backup left tackle, OK, but the
the 2D means Jack shit for an
1109
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,120
offensive line.
You're really talking about your
1110
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:46,440
five starters plus two guys that
you're comfortable with, maybe
1111
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:49,080
three at the most that you're
comfortable with playing in the
1112
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:53,600
game, so.
Given where the depth chart is
1113
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:56,080
and where Brody's played,
they're essentially using him as
1114
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:57,840
a guy that can be a kind of a
swing tackle.
1115
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:00,720
Swing guard can jump in either
of those spots when needed.
1116
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,680
Get him at right tackle, get
Parker off the field.
1117
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:08,320
He's got lazy feet, he's not
graded and run blocking.
1118
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:13,200
Get him off the field.
He is a big, big, big time
1119
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:17,280
hindrance to both the running
game and pass pro at this point.
1120
00:59:18,170 --> 00:59:21,010
And and really disappointing
because you know by all accounts
1121
00:59:21,010 --> 00:59:24,850
had a really good spring and
good offseason and then you know
1122
00:59:24,850 --> 00:59:27,970
we we see a couple things here
there and now the you know the
1123
00:59:28,010 --> 00:59:29,690
the wheels falling off the wagon
again.
1124
00:59:29,690 --> 00:59:33,290
So yeah, get Parker off the
field.
1125
00:59:33,290 --> 00:59:35,330
Get Brody Meadows in there,
Mike.
1126
00:59:35,330 --> 00:59:39,610
What you got, man?
Just play some complimentary
1127
00:59:39,610 --> 00:59:44,290
football for the love of God
like it doesn't need to.
1128
00:59:44,290 --> 00:59:46,660
Be thanks, Coach Brian.
It doesn't have to be that God
1129
00:59:46,660 --> 00:59:49,940
damn difficult.
Like just run the football,
1130
00:59:50,420 --> 00:59:54,660
stick with it when it's working.
If the passing game's working,
1131
00:59:54,660 --> 00:59:57,660
stick with that.
Run fits.
1132
00:59:57,740 --> 01:00:01,140
Clean it up, wrap up.
It doesn't.
1133
01:00:01,140 --> 01:00:04,060
This does not have to be as
difficult as we're making it,
1134
01:00:04,140 --> 01:00:05,820
and it's not.
I'm so sick of hearing the
1135
01:00:05,820 --> 01:00:11,180
talent excuse too.
Like I, I, I will look last
1136
01:00:11,260 --> 01:00:14,500
year, yes, go last year, yes.
Go play Florida State.
1137
01:00:14,500 --> 01:00:15,620
Talent issue?
Fine.
1138
01:00:16,580 --> 01:00:19,180
Go play other, you know, go play
NC State later in the year.
1139
01:00:19,180 --> 01:00:23,220
If you want to talk about talent
issue, that's fine there.
1140
01:00:23,500 --> 01:00:27,540
The teams that Tech's played so
far through four games, this
1141
01:00:27,540 --> 01:00:30,860
isn't a talent thing.
This is a coaching thing.
1142
01:00:30,980 --> 01:00:35,300
I mean these are, these are
four, these are four teams that
1143
01:00:35,860 --> 01:00:38,060
you know could be had.
It wasn't like Virginia Tech was
1144
01:00:38,060 --> 01:00:40,140
going into these games, the two
touchdown underdog.
1145
01:00:40,460 --> 01:00:43,530
Right, so.
Rutgers is probably the only
1146
01:00:43,530 --> 01:00:47,170
team that is close to us in
terms of talent.
1147
01:00:47,650 --> 01:00:49,650
You might give them the slight
edge beak at home.
1148
01:00:49,650 --> 01:00:55,050
We shouldn't have got waxed the
way we did waxed the score ended
1149
01:00:55,050 --> 01:00:59,170
up looking a little bit better
than that game actually went for
1150
01:00:59,170 --> 01:01:02,370
much of the second-half.
I mean it was we'll come back at
1151
01:01:02,370 --> 01:01:06,130
the end there.
But yeah, Tally, what about you?
1152
01:01:06,130 --> 01:01:08,090
Was one thing we got to do
better moving forward.
1153
01:01:08,770 --> 01:01:12,250
I was going to say it earlier,
but you got to give Tooten.
1154
01:01:12,290 --> 01:01:15,370
You got to give Tooten more run.
I did say that part earlier.
1155
01:01:15,810 --> 01:01:19,690
I don't know man, Malachi just
he doesn't look the same as as I
1156
01:01:19,690 --> 01:01:22,770
remember him looking with just
how he's running.
1157
01:01:23,130 --> 01:01:25,810
So I don't know why we keep
trying to go back to him.
1158
01:01:26,210 --> 01:01:30,170
We haven't seen Chance Black, we
haven't seen Bryce Duke.
1159
01:01:30,530 --> 01:01:33,810
So if we're not going to see
them, you got to tell Tooten.
1160
01:01:33,810 --> 01:01:36,490
Look, man, if you're tired, just
fall down on the field.
1161
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,040
Because you're getting the ball
40 fucking times.
1162
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:43,240
If we if we if.
If we are moving the ball, you
1163
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:45,760
running it.
That's what's happening.
1164
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:48,560
Give him the ball, man.
Give him some runs.
1165
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:50,480
Yeah, where has Chance black
man?
1166
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:51,800
I feel like.
I feel like he's been walking
1167
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:53,560
for.
Nowhere right now.
1168
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:56,640
He's not been on any.
I don't think I've seen 28 on
1169
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:59,200
the field at all this year.
Now, where's David Cunningham
1170
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:00,800
when we need him?
David could pull up and tell us
1171
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,120
if he's had the staff.
David, if you're out there
1172
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:05,840
listening tonight, throw us in
the chat or text one of us.
1173
01:02:06,300 --> 01:02:09,060
All right, we are a third of the
way through the season at one
1174
01:02:09,060 --> 01:02:12,540
and four, obviously, if y'all
can't tell, we went on an hour
1175
01:02:12,540 --> 01:02:14,780
and 3 minutes.
We're pissed about the record,
1176
01:02:15,180 --> 01:02:17,300
we're pissed about all the
things happening, right?
1177
01:02:17,980 --> 01:02:20,260
Y'all are pissed.
We see it over here in the chat.
1178
01:02:20,380 --> 01:02:23,060
Y'all are pissed and there's
people out there not responding
1179
01:02:23,060 --> 01:02:26,020
that are sending Dms, Twitter,
Facebook.
1180
01:02:26,060 --> 01:02:29,740
Everybody's pissed right now.
So I wanna ask y'all this and?
1181
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:33,880
Who do I start with last time?
Ron.
1182
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:35,920
Mike, I'll start with you this
time.
1183
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:38,720
What's the one thing in the next
four games?
1184
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:44,280
You have to see I've harped
enough on the run, fits.
1185
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:48,040
Offensive, offensive, offensive
identity.
1186
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:50,160
What kind of team do you want to
be?
1187
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:52,720
I get that you have injuries at
receiver.
1188
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:56,360
You had an injury at quarterback
that changed the Staffs thinking
1189
01:02:56,400 --> 01:03:01,910
as far as you know what they can
and can't do, right, We got to
1190
01:03:01,910 --> 01:03:04,030
see some sort of offense by
daddy, right?
1191
01:03:04,030 --> 01:03:05,510
Jalen Lane.
I think it's starting to get
1192
01:03:05,510 --> 01:03:07,510
healthier.
Jennings is going to be out a
1193
01:03:07,510 --> 01:03:11,230
while.
But drones is the guy, right?
1194
01:03:11,230 --> 01:03:14,670
I mean, Wells can get healthy,
but in my opinion, drones is the
1195
01:03:14,670 --> 01:03:16,430
guy.
So what kind of offense do you
1196
01:03:16,430 --> 01:03:17,990
want to be under Kyron?
Drones.
1197
01:03:18,590 --> 01:03:21,070
Because you got to figure out
here in year two when you're
1198
01:03:21,070 --> 01:03:23,950
rebuilding, it's not going well.
You got to figure out, at least
1199
01:03:23,950 --> 01:03:25,950
on the offensive side, if Kyron
Drones is going to be your
1200
01:03:25,950 --> 01:03:27,750
quarterback moving forward.
That's what you got to decide
1201
01:03:27,750 --> 01:03:29,110
this year.
You got to figure that out.
1202
01:03:29,580 --> 01:03:31,500
If, if you're not going to come
out, if you're going to lose
1203
01:03:31,500 --> 01:03:34,300
every game, the rest of the
schedule, you at least got to
1204
01:03:34,300 --> 01:03:36,340
figure out who your quarterback
is going to be next year.
1205
01:03:36,900 --> 01:03:39,220
Because we already have an
inexperienced offensive
1206
01:03:39,220 --> 01:03:40,940
coordinator, we have an
inexperienced defensive
1207
01:03:40,940 --> 01:03:43,020
coordinator and we have a first
time head coach.
1208
01:03:43,220 --> 01:03:44,740
We can't miss on quarterback
too.
1209
01:03:44,860 --> 01:03:46,540
You got to figure out who your
quarterback's going to be.
1210
01:03:46,620 --> 01:03:49,100
So we got to figure out offense
by Daddy over the next four
1211
01:03:49,100 --> 01:03:51,140
games.
All right, Tally.
1212
01:03:51,140 --> 01:03:52,860
What about you, man?
What do you got to see the next
1213
01:03:52,860 --> 01:03:55,580
four games?
I just say making adjustments
1214
01:03:55,700 --> 01:03:57,540
quicker.
You know, I think I see some
1215
01:03:57,540 --> 01:04:01,320
adjustments on defense and.
Even offense in the fourth
1216
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:03,680
quarter, we've seen some
adjustments, but those
1217
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:06,120
adjustments have to be made a
lot quicker than they've been
1218
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:09,480
being made.
And it's like it's not stuff
1219
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:12,160
that's hard.
You know what I'm saying?
1220
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:14,720
I don't even say that.
Those two words that might keep
1221
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:17,360
saying bum, bum, you got to do
those.
1222
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:20,640
Like when you see those are
gone, you got to go talk and
1223
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:23,760
have those and correct them.
If somebody can't do that on the
1224
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:25,440
field, let's go to somebody
else.
1225
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:28,880
I'm okay with playing all
freshmen and losing every game.
1226
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:32,880
I I'm Okay with Kyron drones
losing every game.
1227
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:36,120
If we're trying to figure out
what we're doing moving forward,
1228
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:38,800
you know what I'm saying?
If we're putting in offensive
1229
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:41,640
lineman that are freshmen and
they're getting blew up because
1230
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:45,000
our seniors again blew up, Okay
well at least we got some run
1231
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:47,760
for next year.
We can, we can talk about the
1232
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:52,440
the youth movement, but I need
to see those adjustments being
1233
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:55,800
made much quicker than they are
in the games that we can at
1234
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:58,840
least have a chance to win.
Take a look.
1235
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:03,640
I said it on Twitter or X or
whatever the fuck we're calling
1236
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:06,640
it now.
Twitter You tweeted it.
1237
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:10,440
I'll say it again.
I need to see four quarters of
1238
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:13,360
competent coaching and play
execution.
1239
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:20,440
If you get beat, you get beat.
But when you are not executing
1240
01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:24,560
and when the coaches are not
correcting, when the coaches are
1241
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:26,960
going away from a game plan,
that's working.
1242
01:05:28,150 --> 01:05:30,910
Then that's not competent
quarterback play.
1243
01:05:30,910 --> 01:05:33,710
That's not competent coaching.
That's not competent execution
1244
01:05:33,710 --> 01:05:37,790
by the guys at the trenches, the
guys at the linebacker core.
1245
01:05:38,830 --> 01:05:42,430
I need to see four quarters of
that, win or lose, get your ass
1246
01:05:42,430 --> 01:05:44,910
beat.
Whatever it is, I I need the
1247
01:05:44,910 --> 01:05:46,710
product to look like it's
supposed to.
1248
01:05:47,230 --> 01:05:52,230
And to Mike's point earlier, you
know the offensive identity.
1249
01:05:52,230 --> 01:05:55,470
I felt like we had some of that
against Rutgers.
1250
01:05:55,710 --> 01:05:59,820
That was kind of if we could.
Take steps off of what that is.
1251
01:06:00,260 --> 01:06:04,060
I could live with that offense
because at least I know what
1252
01:06:04,060 --> 01:06:06,900
it's trying to do.
But could, but.
1253
01:06:06,940 --> 01:06:10,220
But we could probably live with
the offense that we saw on
1254
01:06:10,220 --> 01:06:12,780
those, what, four to five
drives?
1255
01:06:12,780 --> 01:06:16,220
At Marshall, it was like power
runs, taking shots, quick
1256
01:06:16,220 --> 01:06:18,020
slants.
It's like a little screen or
1257
01:06:18,020 --> 01:06:20,180
two.
OK, that's what you are.
1258
01:06:21,340 --> 01:06:23,700
You're almost like a jab, jab,
monster throw.
1259
01:06:24,060 --> 01:06:26,060
That's what you are.
You're not just slinging
1260
01:06:26,060 --> 01:06:30,240
haymakers all the time.
All right, I got one before we
1261
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:32,600
go to break here and mine is
it's kind of going to hinder
1262
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:35,840
what Tally said, make the right
personnel decisions regardless
1263
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:39,440
of winning or losing.
If a senior or junior is just
1264
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:41,920
not cutting it, what's Pete
saying there?
1265
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:48,280
Pete, we do something good.
Hold on.
1266
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:49,880
I'm gonna.
Mess with him right here, Pete.
1267
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:50,840
We're punting the ball.
Good.
1268
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:52,680
Peter Moore is booming the hell
out of it this year.
1269
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:54,870
He's.
If Peter Moore was kicking like
1270
01:06:54,870 --> 01:06:57,910
he was last year, we might have
lost a few games by more than
1271
01:06:57,910 --> 01:07:00,830
one score.
So for the 13 yard point, he did
1272
01:07:00,830 --> 01:07:01,470
what last?
Week.
1273
01:07:01,950 --> 01:07:03,470
Oh, you talk about the killer.
He said.
1274
01:07:03,470 --> 01:07:06,350
He said 22 punts this year that
have just been like,
1275
01:07:06,470 --> 01:07:08,790
uncharacteristically short, you
know what it was.
1276
01:07:08,790 --> 01:07:11,230
And then the rest have been
fucking boom sticks.
1277
01:07:11,470 --> 01:07:12,550
Yes.
Bad time, yeah.
1278
01:07:13,310 --> 01:07:16,110
Those two punts too, it's like
he was trying to kick him as
1279
01:07:16,110 --> 01:07:20,030
deep as possible and like it
land at the three and then zip
1280
01:07:20,030 --> 01:07:22,860
back and you're like.
Still inside the 15, he'd boom
1281
01:07:22,860 --> 01:07:25,980
the shit out of it, but make the
right personnel decisions if
1282
01:07:25,980 --> 01:07:27,420
there's juniors and seniors not
doing it.
1283
01:07:27,420 --> 01:07:29,620
Cuz right now I did the I did a
data dive.
1284
01:07:29,940 --> 01:07:34,540
Y'all offensively, snaps
counted. 50% are red shirt.
1285
01:07:34,540 --> 01:07:36,620
Sophomores are younger, 50% are
juniors.
1286
01:07:36,780 --> 01:07:41,460
Defense is 5347 with the older
guys, and that's an older guys
1287
01:07:41,460 --> 01:07:43,580
with a lot of them on the line.
And y'all know they do not
1288
01:07:43,580 --> 01:07:45,380
rotate as much as they do other
players.
1289
01:07:46,300 --> 01:07:48,660
You've got to make it right.
Brian's already called for
1290
01:07:48,660 --> 01:07:51,540
Meadows to write tackle.
I'll, I'll go one up on you,
1291
01:07:51,540 --> 01:07:52,820
Brian.
We've mentioned a few times on
1292
01:07:52,820 --> 01:07:55,700
this program and I don't know if
you've been listening to it.
1293
01:07:57,500 --> 01:07:59,940
Mike put Jack Hollyfield at
center.
1294
01:07:59,940 --> 01:08:02,420
Kate more back out to guard.
Yeah yeah you can't.
1295
01:08:02,420 --> 01:08:05,580
The the more experiment at
center is a, He's a.
1296
01:08:06,140 --> 01:08:09,940
I don't think it's a disaster.
I think he's OK, but he is a
1297
01:08:09,940 --> 01:08:15,250
dominant right guard.
If, look, I I will live, I will
1298
01:08:15,250 --> 01:08:17,890
live with having a young guy at
center because at least at that
1299
01:08:17,890 --> 01:08:19,569
point we'll have a good right
guard there.
1300
01:08:19,729 --> 01:08:22,569
You go right because right now
we don't have a good right guard
1301
01:08:22,569 --> 01:08:25,770
or a good center.
So at least get one position
1302
01:08:25,770 --> 01:08:26,970
right?
Yes, I heard.
1303
01:08:26,970 --> 01:08:28,370
I've, I've heard you guys talk
about that.
1304
01:08:28,370 --> 01:08:30,970
You're around the money.
By the way, this is a buddy we
1305
01:08:30,970 --> 01:08:35,090
went to high school with.
We got, we got.
1306
01:08:35,090 --> 01:08:37,370
Who's in the comments, man?
Who's in the comments?
1307
01:08:37,410 --> 01:08:41,000
Baby, Yeah, I don't know, Mario.
Mario we didn't know.
1308
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:44,120
We didn't know Mario for since
we were in, since I was in 7th
1309
01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:46,120
grade.
Since Brian was in 7th grade, a
1310
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:48,279
long, long time ago.
All right, y'all.
1311
01:08:48,279 --> 01:08:50,720
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1326
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1327
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01:09:31,689 --> 01:09:33,890
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1329
01:09:33,890 --> 01:09:36,000
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1330
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Now back to the episode.
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All right, we are back.
And now we flip our attention to
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Saturday night.
Lane Stadium 8:00, ACC Network
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against the pit Panthers also
one and three coming in and I
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01:10:25,710 --> 01:10:28,630
take a look here.
We got to know the enemy.
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01:10:30,290 --> 01:10:32,090
And we're going to talk on the
offense first.
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Always like to start with the
offense first because it's a lot
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01:10:34,210 --> 01:10:36,530
more to discuss.
And Brian, let's talk about the
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01:10:36,530 --> 01:10:38,290
scheme.
We got Frank Signetti, someone
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01:10:38,290 --> 01:10:41,450
we're very familiar with,
running that offense up the pit.
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01:10:42,450 --> 01:10:46,250
Yeah, I mean, you're looking at
pro style scheme, got some RPO
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01:10:46,250 --> 01:10:48,410
elements mixed in there.
But it's, you know, pretty
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01:10:48,410 --> 01:10:49,970
straightforward Pro Style
scheme.
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01:10:50,410 --> 01:10:52,650
They they definitely thrive on
explosive plays.
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01:10:52,650 --> 01:10:54,090
They want to stretch you
downfield.
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01:10:54,090 --> 01:10:56,370
They want to hit you with the
big gasher in the running game.
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01:10:57,440 --> 01:11:00,920
They don't quite hit the home
run the same way they did last
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01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:04,200
year and that's part of the
reason why they are one in three
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01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:07,680
and not coming in at least at
500 or better because they're
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01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:09,960
not hitting those explosive
plays, especially in the passing
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01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:15,000
game.
Alrighty and and it is something
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01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:18,520
they they also lost their home
run threat at running back.
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01:11:19,330 --> 01:11:22,450
And we know that very personally
from last year.
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01:11:22,450 --> 01:11:23,930
But let's talk about the
quarterbacks first.
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Cuz right now, not a controversy
per se, but if y'all didn't see
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that UNC game build Your covers
got the shit knocked out of him
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01:11:31,330 --> 01:11:34,490
in the second quarter of that
game, he was Koed for that game.
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01:11:36,490 --> 01:11:39,970
Christian Delu, the three star
who was originally committed to
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01:11:39,970 --> 01:11:41,930
Penn State.
Someone tech flirted with.
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01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:47,480
In the offseason did come in, he
did not have a good game against
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01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:50,960
UNC at all.
He threw 2 picks, he threw 45%,
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01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:55,360
he looked not good at all and
you know Jakovich isn't having a
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01:11:55,360 --> 01:12:00,160
good season also this year, just
over 50% passing, 4 touchdowns,
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01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:02,800
3 interceptions.
And the the worst part about
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01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:04,520
this, I don't know if y'all have
been paying attention.
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01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:08,040
He's their second leading
rusher, like in as far as the
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temps go.
And I know Phil's a big kid, but
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01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:14,160
and you know Phil was an elite
guy coming out, he's and he has
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01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:15,800
not lived up to those
expectations.
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01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:20,040
So, Brian, I know you're going
to talk about them a little bit.
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Is there a lot of similarities
between these two?
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01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:27,960
Guys, some.
I mean, obviously Christian's
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01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:30,600
not a big body quarterback like
Phil.
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01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:32,120
Phil Phil's definitely like
that.
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01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:35,680
Ben Roethlisberger.
Light type quarterback, big
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01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:38,520
body, little wiggle, decent
quickness.
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01:12:39,610 --> 01:12:44,370
But he he has a big arm likes to
take the shots down field, shows
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01:12:44,370 --> 01:12:48,410
accuracy at at most of the
levels of that those those shots
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01:12:48,410 --> 01:12:51,570
are pretty accurate but they
just haven't had the separation
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01:12:51,570 --> 01:12:54,850
of the playmakers outside to to
really take as much advantage of
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01:12:54,850 --> 01:12:58,330
that this year and really been
inefficient because of that and
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01:12:59,370 --> 01:13:03,290
but he had settled in a little
bit in that UNC game before he
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01:13:03,290 --> 01:13:07,810
got the shit knocked out of him.
All righty, Mike.
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Who you expecting to see
Saturday night?
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I mean, based on that hit, I'm
expecting to see Vayu, which I
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01:13:15,070 --> 01:13:17,430
think would be good news for
Virginia Tech, actually.
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01:13:17,430 --> 01:13:19,590
Because if you could find a
quarterback that has looked
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worse than Phil Jarkovic, it's
Christian Vayu, at least in
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limited in a limited sample
size, Jarkovic's been really
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01:13:25,750 --> 01:13:29,590
bad.
I don't know if it's his wrist
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01:13:29,590 --> 01:13:32,740
from two years ago or what.
He does not look right, you
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01:13:32,740 --> 01:13:35,540
know, throwing the football.
It just does not look like it
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01:13:35,540 --> 01:13:39,740
did in 2020 when he kind of
burst onto the scene for BCI
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01:13:39,740 --> 01:13:42,340
don't know what happened, but he
is just not even close to the
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01:13:42,340 --> 01:13:45,140
same guy.
So doesn't inspire a whole lot
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01:13:45,140 --> 01:13:47,380
of confidence.
You know, rolling him out there.
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Bayou just didn't look
comfortable against North
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01:13:50,500 --> 01:13:54,100
Carolina through the two picks.
Very low completion percentage
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01:13:54,100 --> 01:13:57,260
did not look good.
I would expect to see Bayou.
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I haven't seen any sort of like
practice reports or anything
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01:13:59,740 --> 01:14:01,140
like that.
So I don't know what your Kovic
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situation is, but I think either
way, you know, if Pitt goes out
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and throws for a million yards
in this game, it's an indictment
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01:14:08,780 --> 01:14:10,260
on Virginia Tech's defense,
right?
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01:14:10,260 --> 01:14:12,420
We talked about the secondary
and the fact that Tech hasn't.
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01:14:12,860 --> 01:14:14,940
Tech hasn't been stopping the
run, and that's why the past
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defense is ranked how it is.
We all think there's talent, the
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01:14:17,740 --> 01:14:20,820
secondary, no question about it.
But you know, this is one of
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those games where pit's going to
try to throw it a little bit
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here.
And if they're completing passes
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01:14:25,980 --> 01:14:27,940
deep down the field with these
quarterbacks, with how they've
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01:14:27,940 --> 01:14:31,540
looked so far, it's bad news.
Big time, Big time.
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01:14:32,090 --> 01:14:35,410
And you know talking more about
the you, you know he struggled
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01:14:35,410 --> 01:14:39,130
with that ball placement and
decision making, not as
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01:14:39,130 --> 01:14:42,410
efficient with the deep ball as
as Jacobic was at his height.
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01:14:43,570 --> 01:14:46,090
Really not, not even in that
ballpark with what we've seen
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01:14:46,090 --> 01:14:49,690
from him so far this year, which
is significantly diminished.
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01:14:49,690 --> 01:14:52,730
But I think from from Jacobic's
standpoint, I think a lot of
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01:14:52,730 --> 01:14:57,370
it's starting to get mental like
he does not handle a pass rush
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01:14:57,850 --> 01:15:01,340
very well anymore and I think.
Between the injuries to the
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01:15:01,340 --> 01:15:04,260
wrist, the injuries he had last
year and getting really beat up
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01:15:04,700 --> 01:15:09,860
behind that really pretty awful
pass pro from that BC offensive
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01:15:09,860 --> 01:15:12,620
line last year, he's he looks
kind of shell shocked.
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01:15:12,620 --> 01:15:15,060
So he just doesn't seem like the
same type of quarterback.
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01:15:16,460 --> 01:15:20,540
You know he showed some
willingness to run early in the
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01:15:20,660 --> 01:15:23,980
in that that second-half they
really went away from the,
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01:15:23,980 --> 01:15:26,460
especially after he put the ball
on the ground with that that
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01:15:26,460 --> 01:15:31,740
snap exchange.
I'd say he's decent athleticism,
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01:15:31,740 --> 01:15:35,100
probably a little more athletic
kind of getting out of the
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01:15:35,100 --> 01:15:38,980
pocket then maybe a Grant Wells
but not the the kind of the top
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01:15:38,980 --> 01:15:41,860
end that you would see from from
a guy like drones kind of
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01:15:41,860 --> 01:15:45,860
getting outside there.
So he he will run, but he didn't
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01:15:45,860 --> 01:15:48,780
run very much very effectively
in in the second-half there
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01:15:48,780 --> 01:15:51,820
after he had a couple couple
decent attempts kind of start
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01:15:51,820 --> 01:15:54,980
that that second-half off.
Tell any questions you think you
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01:15:54,980 --> 01:15:57,020
want to add about the
quarterback situation up a pit
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01:15:57,020 --> 01:16:01,180
we will see this weekend.
We need to worry about who the
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01:16:01,180 --> 01:16:02,860
running backs.
All right.
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01:16:04,100 --> 01:16:06,100
That's all I want to hear about.
Here we go.
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01:16:06,660 --> 01:16:09,380
He he what a great segue.
Tally knows how to do this like
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01:16:09,380 --> 01:16:12,620
he's been doing a few years.
Professional, professional,
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01:16:12,620 --> 01:16:13,980
professional and.
You know, so, he said.
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01:16:13,980 --> 01:16:16,020
Fucking quarterbacks.
Let's hear the running backs.
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01:16:16,020 --> 01:16:19,700
They worry.
About yeah, Tally.
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01:16:19,700 --> 01:16:21,380
What what did what did what did
Mike say?
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01:16:21,380 --> 01:16:24,420
58 1/2 yards a carry on 2
carries.
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01:16:24,820 --> 01:16:26,140
We ain't worried about throwing
the ball.
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01:16:26,620 --> 01:16:29,060
Rodney Hammond Junior is the guy
we want to worry about.
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01:16:29,100 --> 01:16:33,780
A Virginia kid from Norfolk
class in 20/21, he was an 87
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01:16:33,780 --> 01:16:36,020
ranked guy.
He was a top 15 player in the
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01:16:36,020 --> 01:16:40,460
state on the composite top 2247
and you know his career he's
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01:16:40,460 --> 01:16:43,460
been there, you know, for a
couple years.
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01:16:44,580 --> 01:16:47,380
He was sitting behind Izzy about
a condo.
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01:16:47,820 --> 01:16:50,260
That's the name I'll never
forget in all my years.
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01:16:50,460 --> 01:16:52,460
Had a little run last year.
But Brian?
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01:16:53,020 --> 01:16:56,620
Just me looking at it and
looking at the data, they
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01:16:56,620 --> 01:17:00,340
haven't really decided like if
he's the guy because everybody
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01:17:00,340 --> 01:17:01,980
on that back field is going to
get a little bit of run.
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01:17:03,060 --> 01:17:04,500
Yeah, everybody's been getting a
little run.
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01:17:04,860 --> 01:17:08,540
He's he's an interesting back.
He's he shows pretty good vision
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01:17:08,540 --> 01:17:11,860
between the tackles.
I think the thing that probably
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01:17:11,860 --> 01:17:14,620
stands out the most is that he's
he's very much that type of back
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01:17:14,620 --> 01:17:18,140
that's going to fight for those
extra yards, especially for a
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01:17:18,140 --> 01:17:22,370
guy his size hard to bring down.
Not as explosive at the second
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01:17:22,410 --> 01:17:27,770
level as we saw from Izzy last
year, so in theory we shouldn't
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01:17:27,770 --> 01:17:31,210
be giving up 300 yards rushing
to to to a player this year.
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01:17:32,610 --> 01:17:37,970
So in theory, but I will say
Hammond is probably better out
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01:17:37,970 --> 01:17:40,250
of the backfield catching the
ball and making stuff happen in
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01:17:40,250 --> 01:17:43,970
space than that Izzy was in on
that regard.
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01:17:43,970 --> 01:17:47,810
So look for him to catch a a few
balls out of the backfield.
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01:17:48,260 --> 01:17:49,940
He's done that a couple times
this year.
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01:17:50,540 --> 01:17:53,580
Remember looking at the tape
last year, the West Virginia
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01:17:53,580 --> 01:17:56,820
game where he had a big
reception bill for a touchdown
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01:17:56,820 --> 01:18:01,220
in that game.
So he's got that capability, but
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01:18:02,020 --> 01:18:04,860
it's just it's if we can get our
run fits, we should be all
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01:18:04,860 --> 01:18:07,260
right, which is I'm not very
confident about.
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01:18:08,220 --> 01:18:10,100
I'm not confident at all Mike
Tally.
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01:18:10,100 --> 01:18:11,300
I'll get anything from Brian
here.
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01:18:11,300 --> 01:18:14,940
Anything y'all want to add about
Rodney Hammond or any of the
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01:18:15,140 --> 01:18:18,170
running backs down at Pitt?
He's a good player.
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01:18:18,170 --> 01:18:20,410
Just tackle.
Just tackle him.
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01:18:20,930 --> 01:18:22,970
And that's the point.
It's just tackling cuz we're
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01:18:22,970 --> 01:18:24,290
hearing right there what Brian
said.
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01:18:24,290 --> 01:18:27,610
He's not the burner.
Ali is a burner.
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01:18:27,850 --> 01:18:29,250
You say what you wanna say,
Racine.
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01:18:29,250 --> 01:18:31,570
Holly is a burner.
He gets upfield, he gets the
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01:18:31,570 --> 01:18:34,280
gap, he can go.
I'd be interested.
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01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:36,000
Listen for Fleameister and
Carter.
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01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:38,760
Those are other two guys have
been getting run in their
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01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:42,200
backfield.
They only trail Hammond by about
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01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:44,800
17 carries.
So if you do the math over four
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01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:48,000
games, that's only about four
different carries a game.
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01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:51,520
And I know Hammond's biggest
game came against you and see
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01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:54,840
where you got 89 yards on about
15 carries.
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01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:58,240
And they've historically been
kind of a ride with the hot
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01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:02,580
handed running back type team.
You know, we saw that Hammond
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01:19:02,580 --> 01:19:04,380
was kind of the hot, hot hand
against.
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01:19:05,460 --> 01:19:08,940
Yeah, some of the tape I watched
last year with with with Pitt,
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01:19:09,660 --> 01:19:11,900
they rode him a couple games.
I know a Band of Canada was
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01:19:11,900 --> 01:19:16,620
banged up one of those, but they
they have a willingness to ride
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01:19:16,620 --> 01:19:19,340
whatever is working in the
running back game.
1513
01:19:19,340 --> 01:19:23,020
So you know, if if it's working,
they're going to keep that guy
1514
01:19:23,020 --> 01:19:24,580
and unless he needs to come off
for a blow all.
1515
01:19:25,620 --> 01:19:28,900
Right, let's flip next and let's
go to.
1516
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:34,640
Con Kanata mumfield boom nailed
to Curtis.
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01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:37,080
Yeah, really.
Usually I screw those up
1518
01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:41,520
completely.
So you know a 6 foot, 175 pound
1519
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:48,400
wide out came to pit fight of
the transfer portal I believe
1520
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:51,960
from Akron, right?
They come from Akron, they came
1521
01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:57,160
from Akron and so far this year
leading the team 16 receptions.
1522
01:19:57,860 --> 01:20:01,260
He only has 183 yards.
Yep, it was Akron.
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01:20:01,660 --> 01:20:05,740
Thank goodness I got that right.
Got 500 yards last year over
1524
01:20:05,740 --> 01:20:09,380
about right about 60 receptions.
So he does look like he is
1525
01:20:09,380 --> 01:20:12,220
there, sort of.
Is he their number one Brian or
1526
01:20:12,220 --> 01:20:13,900
is he just a part of the
offense?
1527
01:20:14,820 --> 01:20:19,380
He's their number one wide out,
but they have, again, they
1528
01:20:19,380 --> 01:20:22,140
haven't had a ton of success in
the passing game so far this
1529
01:20:22,140 --> 01:20:24,620
year.
So he's kind of more of their
1530
01:20:24,620 --> 01:20:28,800
stick mover, not really
consistent deep threat.
1531
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:32,080
Again, they haven't really
established that this year the
1532
01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:34,160
way they have in the, you know,
the years past when they've been
1533
01:20:34,160 --> 01:20:38,360
a little bit of a better, a
better passing team and he does
1534
01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:40,920
most of his eating in that kind
of short to intermediate range.
1535
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:45,280
They'll use them on screen
slants occasionally see a dig
1536
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:47,480
here and there so that that's
kind of his bread and butter.
1537
01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:49,800
So he's mostly a guy that
they're going to use to move the
1538
01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:51,800
sticks.
The next guy we're going to talk
1539
01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:53,880
about is kind of the guy that
they've taken most of the shots
1540
01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:56,510
with this year.
Who's that tally?
1541
01:20:56,750 --> 01:20:59,990
So the next guy is there tied in
Gavin Bartholomew.
1542
01:21:00,510 --> 01:21:05,470
He was a three star, a three
star athlete out of I'm not even
1543
01:21:05,470 --> 01:21:11,430
going to try to say the name
somewhere in PA class of 2021.
1544
01:21:13,630 --> 01:21:15,830
One second here I had it pulled
up.
1545
01:21:17,150 --> 01:21:21,270
Like Brian said, they've been
using him and kind of taking
1546
01:21:21,270 --> 01:21:28,400
shots with him.
He is right at about. 216 I
1547
01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:32,840
believe on yardage this year,
getting it pulled back up here,
1548
01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:34,800
right?
So he's he's on pace for
1549
01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:36,720
somewhere around 700 yards
receiving.
1550
01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:41,520
Yeah he's a big big target at
65250.
1551
01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:48,320
Big, big tight in he's yeah, 9
receptions, 260 yards having
1552
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:52,640
right at 24.
Yeah, right, At 24 yard a catch
1553
01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:54,990
and.
Yeah, willfully.
1554
01:21:55,590 --> 01:22:01,950
Yeah, one touchdown already.
And again from last year, just,
1555
01:22:01,990 --> 01:22:04,070
you know, going over his year to
year.
1556
01:22:04,630 --> 01:22:13,230
Last year he had 21 catches for
283 over the whole season and
1557
01:22:13,230 --> 01:22:15,030
two touchdowns.
And this year, he's already got
1558
01:22:15,030 --> 01:22:18,550
216.
Yeah, and some of that is the
1559
01:22:18,550 --> 01:22:21,550
fact that the the wide receiver
group has dropped off a little
1560
01:22:21,550 --> 01:22:22,870
bit.
Some of that is just he's
1561
01:22:22,870 --> 01:22:27,750
developed into a better player.
He's like a slightly bigger Kobe
1562
01:22:27,750 --> 01:22:30,270
Flaner.
I don't want to bring up Ghost
1563
01:22:30,270 --> 01:22:35,430
of Bowl Games Pass, but kind of
reminds me of that in terms of
1564
01:22:35,430 --> 01:22:37,550
the way he plays and the way he
likes to get up the scene.
1565
01:22:37,550 --> 01:22:41,190
They use him a lot at the scene.
They'll throw those kind of slot
1566
01:22:41,190 --> 01:22:46,030
fades, deep crossers, tight in
wheels, that that's really his
1567
01:22:46,030 --> 01:22:47,950
bread and butter.
That's where he's been getting a
1568
01:22:47,950 --> 01:22:52,310
lot of that yardage.
So definitely more of a big play
1569
01:22:52,310 --> 01:22:55,110
threat than the typical stick
move, stick mover, red zone
1570
01:22:55,110 --> 01:22:57,030
threat that you see from your
typical tight ends.
1571
01:22:58,110 --> 01:23:00,790
And I'd say he's deceptively
athletic that when you look at
1572
01:23:00,790 --> 01:23:03,950
him on tape, he doesn't look
like very unassuming in terms of
1573
01:23:03,950 --> 01:23:06,790
his athleticism, but it kind of
it, it jumps off the more you
1574
01:23:06,790 --> 01:23:09,760
watch.
Absolutely.
1575
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:12,080
All right, let's quickly hit
their offensive line.
1576
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:14,880
And Mike, let me hit you with
this before Brian breaks into
1577
01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:17,240
it.
It was announced yesterday all
1578
01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:20,640
ACC tackle Matt Doncavas is out
for the season.
1579
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:23,880
Killer hat.
I mean, how big of a loss is
1580
01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:26,240
that for Pitt right now?
Big deal cuz they have a pretty
1581
01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:28,080
good offensive line.
It's a killer.
1582
01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:32,960
You lose an all conference
lineman at those.
1583
01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:34,440
Those aren't easy to replace,
right?
1584
01:23:34,440 --> 01:23:36,880
I mean, we're talking about the
Virginia Tech offensive line
1585
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:40,160
and.
There's nobody, there's nobody
1586
01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:42,280
sniffing that, right?
So it's true.
1587
01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:45,640
Yeah, it's it's an absolute
killer and and Pitt does have a
1588
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:48,040
pretty decent offensive line.
They've gotten better as the
1589
01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:51,520
seasons gone along too.
And you know, we could talk
1590
01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:53,840
about the issues with Jacobic
and everything else and and the
1591
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:56,120
run game issues.
That has kind of been with him.
1592
01:23:56,120 --> 01:23:57,680
It's kind of been fits and
starts this year.
1593
01:23:58,440 --> 01:24:01,400
But I chalk that up more to play
calling than the actual
1594
01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:02,920
offensive line.
The offensive line is pretty
1595
01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:05,680
solid.
Yeah, that was my take away to
1596
01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:07,120
looking at them.
I mean, they're not elite.
1597
01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:10,600
You know, Kyle was definitely
the the most elite on that line.
1598
01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:12,920
But it just as a unit, they're
not really that elite, but very
1599
01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:15,960
solid across the board.
They do really well to get to
1600
01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:18,440
the second level, which you
know, doesn't really bode well
1601
01:24:18,440 --> 01:24:21,120
for some of the problems we've
had with run fits.
1602
01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:22,720
If they're getting to the second
level, getting on our
1603
01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:27,800
linebackers, we're back to
having a former wide receiver
1604
01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:29,680
being the guy that's coming up
to make that play that's going
1605
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:34,530
to stop a potential touchdown.
So spooky hours a little bit
1606
01:24:34,530 --> 01:24:39,570
there, but you know, definitely
the guy was going out.
1607
01:24:39,570 --> 01:24:41,130
That's going to be a big knock
to them.
1608
01:24:41,130 --> 01:24:44,290
We'll see how that impacts pass
pro, we'll see how that, how
1609
01:24:44,290 --> 01:24:47,370
that impacts their running game.
So definitely a big loss.
1610
01:24:47,370 --> 01:24:51,570
So we'll see if that that turns
out to be something that, you
1611
01:24:51,570 --> 01:24:53,010
know, rears its head in this
game.
1612
01:24:53,450 --> 01:24:55,850
Before we flip over to defense,
Brian, what do you think it
1613
01:24:55,850 --> 01:24:58,610
affects more with them?
You watch some of the tape the
1614
01:24:58,610 --> 01:25:01,170
last few days.
I mean, because you're talking
1615
01:25:01,170 --> 01:25:02,810
about them getting to the second
level.
1616
01:25:03,510 --> 01:25:06,590
I sit here and think, if you've
got an elite left tackle, a lot
1617
01:25:06,590 --> 01:25:08,030
of guys don't have to think
right.
1618
01:25:08,590 --> 01:25:10,710
Those interior guys don't have
to think about anything.
1619
01:25:10,710 --> 01:25:14,350
It's like he's got it.
I don't need to worry about him
1620
01:25:15,070 --> 01:25:17,310
and it makes it easy.
I know you play with a really
1621
01:25:17,310 --> 01:25:20,110
good left tackle at Sydney and I
know for you it was just like,
1622
01:25:20,710 --> 01:25:24,550
get the fuck up field.
Yeah, I mean, Jared, Jared
1623
01:25:24,550 --> 01:25:27,830
Stearns was locked down, so I
didn't have to worry about him.
1624
01:25:27,830 --> 01:25:30,590
But I'd say it hurts more on the
pass pro, especially if you're
1625
01:25:30,590 --> 01:25:35,600
rolling Christian out there
instead of Phil because you're
1626
01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:38,120
already having a quarterback
that probably isn't fully
1627
01:25:38,120 --> 01:25:42,360
comfortable in the pocket.
It didn't show that in the game
1628
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:46,080
against you and C very
uncomfortable with the pocket at
1629
01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:49,840
times.
So not having your all
1630
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:52,600
conference left tackle out there
definitely doesn't inspire any
1631
01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:54,680
any additional confidence.
So I feel like that's going to
1632
01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:56,720
be where the you'll see the
impact the most, but it'll
1633
01:25:56,720 --> 01:25:58,160
definitely impact the run game
as well.
1634
01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:00,600
All righty, all righty good
deal.
1635
01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:03,240
All right, we're going to flip
over to the defensive side of
1636
01:26:03,240 --> 01:26:07,560
the ball now and let's talk
about this defense led by Randy
1637
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:10,040
Bates.
Brian cuz I I read what you put
1638
01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:16,000
in here and I'm, I'm sorry man.
I I got I put my own little
1639
01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:18,520
notes in there just to, like,
make sure I talk the right
1640
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:24,280
amount of shit.
Go ahead, say it.
1641
01:26:24,790 --> 01:26:27,030
All right, so, so, so we got, we
got Randy Bates.
1642
01:26:27,030 --> 01:26:32,270
I mean, he's the coordinator,
but obviously this is the Pat
1643
01:26:32,270 --> 01:26:35,070
Narduzzi invented attacking 4
three defense.
1644
01:26:38,790 --> 01:26:41,710
So something that all of us are
familiar with.
1645
01:26:41,750 --> 01:26:45,910
And obviously Pat Narduzzi is
very excited that he was able to
1646
01:26:45,950 --> 01:26:47,470
put something like this together
for everyone.
1647
01:26:48,430 --> 01:26:50,270
But they do love bringing the
pressure to rush the
1648
01:26:50,270 --> 01:26:52,790
quarterbacks and confuse the
offensive line.
1649
01:26:53,540 --> 01:26:55,860
You're going to see a lot of man
and man outside.
1650
01:26:57,340 --> 01:26:59,500
We're used to that.
When we play pit it's going to
1651
01:26:59,500 --> 01:27:01,900
be you're going to have to win
those one-on-one battles if
1652
01:27:01,900 --> 01:27:03,260
we're going to be successful in
the passing game.
1653
01:27:04,940 --> 01:27:08,180
They will give a big plays
because of that aggressiveness,
1654
01:27:08,940 --> 01:27:10,420
you know.
So if we can catch them in a in
1655
01:27:10,420 --> 01:27:14,060
a bad blitz, we can catch them
in some mismatches and man
1656
01:27:14,060 --> 01:27:15,940
coverage.
We can take some advantage all.
1657
01:27:17,180 --> 01:27:18,220
Right.
Let's talk about some of the
1658
01:27:18,220 --> 01:27:21,980
players on this defense.
Let's talk with Day on Hayes.
1659
01:27:22,510 --> 01:27:28,350
A6 foot three ��265 defensive end
top 200 play when he got
1660
01:27:28,350 --> 01:27:32,030
recruited by 247 back in the
class of 2020 out of Pittsburgh,
1661
01:27:32,030 --> 01:27:39,350
PA out of Westinghouse and you
know so far this season for Mr.
1662
01:27:40,990 --> 01:27:44,710
Hayes. 8 tackles, two sides, 2
pass deflected.
1663
01:27:45,110 --> 01:27:47,350
All he's looking past deflected
and talk about it with defensive
1664
01:27:47,350 --> 01:27:51,350
end, because that means they're
not just here, they understand.
1665
01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:53,920
You you see, it's about to fire.
Just get your hand up.
1666
01:27:54,440 --> 01:27:55,600
What you say say that again,
Tally?
1667
01:27:55,880 --> 01:27:57,520
Get them hands up.
Get them up.
1668
01:27:58,280 --> 01:28:04,440
So Brian when you when you took
a look at him, what did you see
1669
01:28:04,520 --> 01:28:07,920
and what can we do?
And dear Lord is he going to be
1670
01:28:07,920 --> 01:28:11,640
on seven knows side.
I mean talent wise I mean he's a
1671
01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:14,160
balanced the end and he is going
to be on seven knows side most
1672
01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:17,840
of the time unfortunately
balanced the end.
1673
01:28:17,840 --> 01:28:21,710
He's really good against the run
good as a pass rusher so that's
1674
01:28:21,710 --> 01:28:25,030
a really good edge doesn't get
fooled often on kind of those
1675
01:28:25,030 --> 01:28:26,990
backside contain rolls that you
might see.
1676
01:28:26,990 --> 01:28:31,510
So you know we ran we finally
ran something we already ended
1677
01:28:31,510 --> 01:28:33,510
around last week.
I don't think he's going to be
1678
01:28:33,510 --> 01:28:36,510
be fooled on that he's going to
sit there read and be in the
1679
01:28:36,510 --> 01:28:37,870
right position to make that
play.
1680
01:28:39,070 --> 01:28:41,030
They do something interesting
with him though they like when
1681
01:28:41,030 --> 01:28:43,870
they go nickel he kind of turns
into a roaming linebacker
1682
01:28:43,870 --> 01:28:46,510
depending on what the the
defensive front call is.
1683
01:28:46,510 --> 01:28:51,210
He'll kind of work in there
standing in the backfield, blitz
1684
01:28:51,210 --> 01:28:54,650
B gap, blitz A gap, sometimes
blitz out around the edge.
1685
01:28:54,650 --> 01:28:56,970
So they kind of use them a
little bit differently there in
1686
01:28:56,970 --> 01:28:58,730
those nickel sets.
So that's really interesting to
1687
01:28:58,730 --> 01:29:01,890
watch.
And you know, in terms of tone
1688
01:29:01,890 --> 01:29:04,050
setter, I mean he got out there
and forced to fumble early
1689
01:29:04,050 --> 01:29:07,170
against you and see the kind of
set the tone for that team and
1690
01:29:07,170 --> 01:29:10,730
you know, put them in contention
in the first, first half before
1691
01:29:10,730 --> 01:29:13,410
Phil went down and you and see
kind of ran away with that the
1692
01:29:13,410 --> 01:29:20,660
second-half.
All right, good deal there.
1693
01:29:21,700 --> 01:29:25,860
Obviously if there is a change
this week on that side, it would
1694
01:29:25,860 --> 01:29:28,140
be interesting to see because it
does sound like it would be a
1695
01:29:28,140 --> 01:29:31,380
good test if there was a new
offensive lineman out there.
1696
01:29:31,740 --> 01:29:34,340
I want to talk about one of the
linebackers next prime that
1697
01:29:34,780 --> 01:29:39,260
caught my eye on the stat sheet
along with who he is and that is
1698
01:29:39,260 --> 01:29:45,900
Solomon Deshields, 6 foot tall,
��230 linebacker.
1699
01:29:46,660 --> 01:29:52,140
Out of Millville, NJ was a mid
three star when he came out back
1700
01:29:52,140 --> 01:29:58,060
in the class of 2020 and so far
this year 21 tackles, 3 tackles
1701
01:29:58,060 --> 01:30:01,540
for loss in a sack.
Where are we seeing him line up?
1702
01:30:01,780 --> 01:30:04,180
You know they they obviously
have lost some linebackers the
1703
01:30:04,180 --> 01:30:06,300
last few years.
Who's he wrote.
1704
01:30:06,660 --> 01:30:08,060
What's he effectively doing
there?
1705
01:30:08,700 --> 01:30:12,180
Yeah, he's their outside
linebacker essentially the will
1706
01:30:12,180 --> 01:30:13,620
in this, in this type of
defense.
1707
01:30:15,480 --> 01:30:17,520
He's a he's a he's their blitz
specialist.
1708
01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:19,680
He's the guy that they're
bringing on a lot of those blitz
1709
01:30:19,680 --> 01:30:23,960
calls really good and pursuit
attacks the gap really well,
1710
01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:29,600
unlike some of our our
linebackers that we've seen this
1711
01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:32,160
year so far.
So he does a pretty good job
1712
01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:33,880
there.
Good and run fit
1713
01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:37,040
responsibilities.
Where he can get lost is when he
1714
01:30:37,040 --> 01:30:40,040
asked to cover in the passing
game, especially in zone.
1715
01:30:40,840 --> 01:30:43,460
Not very good there.
So usually that's why you see
1716
01:30:43,460 --> 01:30:45,180
him on passing down.
They're trying to bring him as
1717
01:30:45,180 --> 01:30:49,260
that fifth or sixth guy coming
off the edge on the pass rush.
1718
01:30:51,820 --> 01:30:53,660
All righty.
Good deal.
1719
01:30:53,660 --> 01:30:57,580
There Again, it's one of those
things we're gonna talk about in
1720
01:30:57,580 --> 01:31:00,100
Keys in a little while here.
What do we do against this team?
1721
01:31:00,740 --> 01:31:02,820
What do we do against this team
and you hear somebody like him
1722
01:31:02,820 --> 01:31:05,500
struggling in coverage, is do we
have to mix it up with the past?
1723
01:31:05,820 --> 01:31:09,380
But Tally, we got one more guy
we want to talk about, someone
1724
01:31:09,380 --> 01:31:11,020
I'm sure is familiar to
everybody.
1725
01:31:13,220 --> 01:31:15,860
Or of us sick?
Obviously should be near and
1726
01:31:15,860 --> 01:31:22,140
dear to a lot of hokey fans.
Donovan McMillan, He came out of
1727
01:31:22,140 --> 01:31:26,980
high school, went to Florida.
A lot of hokey fans, for some
1728
01:31:26,980 --> 01:31:30,180
reason, thought we were close to
getting him.
1729
01:31:30,910 --> 01:31:33,510
Then he goes to Florida, doesn't
work out there and guess what?
1730
01:31:33,510 --> 01:31:35,950
He transfers.
A lot of hokey fans went down
1731
01:31:35,950 --> 01:31:37,910
that road again and thought we
were going to get him when he
1732
01:31:37,910 --> 01:31:40,910
transferred from Florida.
No, he didn't.
1733
01:31:41,070 --> 01:31:43,430
He transferred to Pitt.
He is a PA kid.
1734
01:31:43,430 --> 01:31:48,270
He's from there.
He was a four-star guy coming
1735
01:31:48,270 --> 01:31:50,870
out of high school.
Offers from all over.
1736
01:31:51,190 --> 01:31:56,670
You know Georgia list goes to
Florida, list goes on and on of
1737
01:31:57,150 --> 01:31:58,710
all the people that wanted this
kid.
1738
01:31:59,120 --> 01:32:03,800
Very talented, says This year
he's got about 32 tackles.
1739
01:32:04,720 --> 01:32:09,120
What I thought was interesting,
I mean he's 6 to 210, so a
1740
01:32:09,120 --> 01:32:12,640
bigger safety.
What I what I thought was
1741
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:17,880
interesting was in that West
Virginia game he had 18 tackles,
1742
01:32:18,680 --> 01:32:24,320
9 solo and 9 assisted.
So the reason I say I find that
1743
01:32:25,720 --> 01:32:28,930
interesting is.
Are they getting to that second
1744
01:32:28,930 --> 01:32:30,690
level?
Is he coming downhill?
1745
01:32:31,290 --> 01:32:33,570
How is he getting in on all
these tackles, Brian?
1746
01:32:35,090 --> 01:32:37,090
Yeah, man.
Let's start by saying, you know,
1747
01:32:38,010 --> 01:32:39,930
DMC is the one that got away,
man.
1748
01:32:41,250 --> 01:32:45,730
He's the one that got away.
I feel like we've all been
1749
01:32:45,730 --> 01:32:47,370
chatting.
I think when he was getting
1750
01:32:47,370 --> 01:32:52,410
recruited in, he was one of
those infamous silent commits
1751
01:32:54,410 --> 01:32:57,170
that didn't quite turn out the
way we wanted it to.
1752
01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:03,800
And you know, I had dreams of
dropping DeLorean means every
1753
01:33:03,800 --> 01:33:07,200
time this kid made a big play
and I didn't get to do that.
1754
01:33:07,200 --> 01:33:10,680
So I'm very disappointed.
But really good player, man,
1755
01:33:10,680 --> 01:33:13,400
Great in pursuit, covers ground
really fast.
1756
01:33:14,640 --> 01:33:17,400
They use them a lot as kind of
that middle third in the single
1757
01:33:17,400 --> 01:33:20,080
high, kind of the half field
safety in their primary
1758
01:33:20,080 --> 01:33:23,120
coverages.
So there's a lot of Cover 3,
1759
01:33:23,120 --> 01:33:25,640
Cover one, Cover 6.
So he kind of plays that role
1760
01:33:25,640 --> 01:33:29,170
for them in those and those
coverages and I'd say he's
1761
01:33:29,170 --> 01:33:33,730
better against the run, but he's
still very active, sorry, better
1762
01:33:33,730 --> 01:33:35,930
against the past, but he's still
active in run support.
1763
01:33:36,530 --> 01:33:43,450
So just a solid all around
player and really I'd say elite
1764
01:33:43,450 --> 01:33:45,530
in kind of playing that deep
third coverage.
1765
01:33:47,490 --> 01:33:48,610
All righty.
So.
1766
01:33:48,610 --> 01:33:51,650
Brian, let's ask this like Tally
was talking about here before we
1767
01:33:51,650 --> 01:33:54,830
get to hokey keys.
Is it downhill?
1768
01:33:54,830 --> 01:33:57,070
Is that where he's making his
tackles or is he coming up in
1769
01:33:57,070 --> 01:33:59,070
the box?
Or is he just, is he all over
1770
01:33:59,070 --> 01:34:02,230
the place or they let him free
roam especially so thinking
1771
01:34:02,230 --> 01:34:05,550
about you know what West
Virginia does, you know they
1772
01:34:05,670 --> 01:34:08,390
he's coming up and making a lot
of plays in those passes and in
1773
01:34:08,390 --> 01:34:10,950
the run game.
So it's more in the passing game
1774
01:34:10,950 --> 01:34:13,630
that shot a quick passing game,
he's coming up and making those
1775
01:34:13,630 --> 01:34:15,990
plays there.
So that that's why you're seeing
1776
01:34:15,990 --> 01:34:18,230
a little bit more volume pick up
against a team like that.
1777
01:34:20,390 --> 01:34:22,870
I am very sorry, Brian.
We are over here chuckling.
1778
01:34:22,870 --> 01:34:25,470
You can take a look at the
private chat now because we we,
1779
01:34:25,470 --> 01:34:29,070
we were reminiscing back from
three years ago in 2020 with
1780
01:34:29,830 --> 01:34:33,550
with with DMC there.
All right, all right.
1781
01:34:33,550 --> 01:34:36,390
So that is pit lot of players
you should know.
1782
01:34:36,390 --> 01:34:39,910
Obviously we can't cover them
all, but we're going to get to
1783
01:34:39,910 --> 01:34:42,630
the Hokie keys now.
As always, we have 4 Hokie keys.
1784
01:34:42,630 --> 01:34:46,710
I'm going to let our guest, Mike
McDaniel lead us with the key.
1785
01:34:46,710 --> 01:34:48,550
He felt most important this
week.
1786
01:34:49,700 --> 01:34:51,980
Let drones cook in the running
game.
1787
01:34:52,740 --> 01:34:56,060
Let him cook I.
Agree.
1788
01:34:56,420 --> 01:34:58,940
It does not have to be.
I've mentioned this earlier
1789
01:34:58,940 --> 01:35:00,420
tonight.
Does not have to be difficult.
1790
01:35:00,540 --> 01:35:03,180
If he's running the ball well,
downhill, let him run the ball.
1791
01:35:03,540 --> 01:35:05,980
All right.
I I understand.
1792
01:35:05,980 --> 01:35:09,020
We don't want drones to run 2530
* a game.
1793
01:35:09,420 --> 01:35:12,860
Totally get that right.
I think he ran it 2223 times
1794
01:35:12,860 --> 01:35:15,540
against Rutgers.
Probably a little too many,
1795
01:35:15,860 --> 01:35:20,200
right?
If you get him in that. 13 to 17
1796
01:35:20,200 --> 01:35:25,280
range, right where last week.
I think that's his sweet spot.
1797
01:35:25,680 --> 01:35:28,920
But a lot of those came later in
the game, right?
1798
01:35:29,920 --> 01:35:32,520
Real good early on.
Went away from it, came back to
1799
01:35:32,520 --> 01:35:36,440
it off and saw some success.
Let him run the ball, let him
1800
01:35:36,440 --> 01:35:38,960
get comfortable, set up the
passing game.
1801
01:35:39,760 --> 01:35:41,600
Doesn't have to be hard.
All righty.
1802
01:35:42,200 --> 01:35:43,920
There we go.
Let let drones cook.
1803
01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:46,840
I tally.
What's yours this week, man?
1804
01:35:47,200 --> 01:35:49,820
I'm gonna, I'm gonna get.
Jump on what he's saying as
1805
01:35:49,820 --> 01:35:52,700
well.
Whatever's working on offense,
1806
01:35:52,700 --> 01:35:56,260
stick with it.
I mean, don't overthink it.
1807
01:35:56,420 --> 01:35:58,940
Whatever's working, keep doing
it.
1808
01:35:58,940 --> 01:36:01,940
If Drones is killing him with
his legs, let him kill him.
1809
01:36:02,460 --> 01:36:05,700
If we're throwing short passes
and we we're thinking and
1810
01:36:05,700 --> 01:36:08,980
dunking down the field, let's
keep doing it.
1811
01:36:09,060 --> 01:36:13,500
You know, let's not just say,
OK, we did this, that worked.
1812
01:36:13,500 --> 01:36:15,700
Let's see if this will work.
No, we ain't got time for that.
1813
01:36:16,680 --> 01:36:18,400
Continue doing what works
offense.
1814
01:36:19,720 --> 01:36:21,280
There you go.
There you go, Sigla.
1815
01:36:21,280 --> 01:36:25,560
What's yours, man?
Yeah, I mean, I don't want to
1816
01:36:25,560 --> 01:36:28,440
beat a dead horse here, but live
at those explosive run planes,
1817
01:36:28,440 --> 01:36:30,200
man.
I mean that.
1818
01:36:30,200 --> 01:36:32,760
That's what we got to do.
We got, we got to have the
1819
01:36:32,760 --> 01:36:34,880
safety's coming up in the right
fits of the run game.
1820
01:36:34,880 --> 01:36:38,400
We got to get more tackles for
loss from our defensive line so
1821
01:36:38,400 --> 01:36:42,040
we can put them in down in
distances that hurt them.
1822
01:36:43,440 --> 01:36:47,160
So they can't gash us in the run
game on 3rd down and get those
1823
01:36:47,160 --> 01:36:50,960
big runs that not only move the
sticks but also we're putting
1824
01:36:50,960 --> 01:36:53,280
them in scoring range or they're
putting points on the board if
1825
01:36:53,280 --> 01:36:55,080
they're not already scoring on
the run anyway.
1826
01:36:55,080 --> 01:36:58,360
So that that's what we got to do
if if we can limit the explosive
1827
01:36:58,360 --> 01:37:01,720
plays in the run game.
I think we're we're what we're
1828
01:37:01,720 --> 01:37:05,600
showing is that we have the
ability we're not consistent.
1829
01:37:07,120 --> 01:37:10,480
We aren't doing, we aren't doing
the right things all the time.
1830
01:37:11,940 --> 01:37:14,220
Yep, we're not doing the right
things all the time.
1831
01:37:14,220 --> 01:37:16,420
All right, I'm going to throw
this one out for y'all because
1832
01:37:16,420 --> 01:37:22,140
of of kind of what Pitt is.
Pitt roughly ranks in the
1833
01:37:23,660 --> 01:37:26,540
atmosphere of NCAA college
football.
1834
01:37:26,540 --> 01:37:29,820
They are directly in the middle
when it comes to from 33rd
1835
01:37:29,820 --> 01:37:32,260
downs.
They're about 41%.
1836
01:37:32,820 --> 01:37:36,460
And I'm going to be honest, if
we can kick them to 41 percent
1837
01:37:36,460 --> 01:37:40,180
or less, that's going to be a
key get them off the field.
1838
01:37:40,970 --> 01:37:44,090
Every two or five times there's
a third down or three of out of
1839
01:37:44,090 --> 01:37:46,610
five times you're going to win
this game doing that.
1840
01:37:46,930 --> 01:37:51,010
If we let it become like it did
last week, where early Marshall
1841
01:37:51,090 --> 01:37:54,010
went like five or seven, they
came back to Earth in the
1842
01:37:54,010 --> 01:37:56,530
second-half, but they didn't
need it in the second-half.
1843
01:37:57,090 --> 01:37:58,650
They didn't need it in the
second-half.
1844
01:37:59,210 --> 01:38:02,890
Y'all are cracking me up too.
Seeing all the sorry, sorry,
1845
01:38:02,890 --> 01:38:05,210
y'all, don't know.
We we've we've all been in,
1846
01:38:05,290 --> 01:38:08,250
we've all been together for
close to four years now.
1847
01:38:08,250 --> 01:38:10,570
So there's a lot of stories in
this chat, so.
1848
01:38:10,940 --> 01:38:12,300
Me.
Get them off the field on 3rd
1849
01:38:12,300 --> 01:38:13,900
down.
Stick them to their average.
1850
01:38:13,900 --> 01:38:15,860
We'll put it below.
If it starts creeping above,
1851
01:38:15,860 --> 01:38:18,660
we're going to be in trouble.
All right, so now we've got our
1852
01:38:18,660 --> 01:38:20,340
prediction and our big
screeners.
1853
01:38:20,620 --> 01:38:22,780
Mike, you'll get to pick the big
screeners too.
1854
01:38:22,780 --> 01:38:24,580
You can just have some fun
because you know you never make
1855
01:38:24,580 --> 01:38:29,980
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01:38:29,980 --> 01:38:34,020
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1859
01:38:39,970 --> 01:38:43,770
Sam Laporta, The young rookie
tied in with Detroit.
1860
01:38:44,210 --> 01:38:48,090
It's at 42 1/2 receiving yards.
Take the over.
1861
01:38:48,090 --> 01:38:52,210
He has been lighting it up.
Green Bay at Derek Card doesn't
1862
01:38:52,210 --> 01:38:54,850
go out Sunday.
They do not win that game.
1863
01:38:55,210 --> 01:38:58,490
My second one because he's on my
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1864
01:38:58,490 --> 01:39:00,570
touchdown this week and he's
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1865
01:39:00,570 --> 01:39:03,930
in the league.
Justin Jefferson is a touchdown
1866
01:39:03,930 --> 01:39:05,850
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1867
01:39:05,850 --> 01:39:09,200
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01:39:25,300 --> 01:39:29,080
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All righty, we'll start with our
1873
01:39:29,080 --> 01:39:32,520
hokey predictions first.
Mike again.
1874
01:39:32,520 --> 01:39:34,760
You're the guest.
What are you feeling on the game
1875
01:39:34,760 --> 01:39:42,800
Saturday?
It's about time that a Brent
1876
01:39:42,800 --> 01:39:46,720
Pride coach team steps up and
just figures it out.
1877
01:39:47,880 --> 01:39:50,200
We can all agree.
Please.
1878
01:39:51,520 --> 01:39:53,640
I think it happens on Saturday
night.
1879
01:39:54,120 --> 01:39:58,880
I can't believe I'm saying this.
I think it happened Saturday
1880
01:39:58,880 --> 01:40:01,000
night.
What's informing me of this?
1881
01:40:01,600 --> 01:40:04,840
The spread makes no sense at
all.
1882
01:40:04,840 --> 01:40:06,440
The pit.
This pit team.
1883
01:40:06,440 --> 01:40:09,920
Listen, listen.
This pit team is not very good.
1884
01:40:10,160 --> 01:40:12,360
It's better than Virginia Tech,
right?
1885
01:40:12,880 --> 01:40:15,160
Why is Pitt only a 2 1/2 point
favorite?
1886
01:40:15,160 --> 01:40:17,040
And don't tell me it's because
they think Christian Bayou's
1887
01:40:17,040 --> 01:40:20,880
going to start a quarterback.
This thing opened at 4:00.
1888
01:40:21,280 --> 01:40:27,760
What makes makes zero sense.
Pitt has had a lovehate
1889
01:40:27,760 --> 01:40:34,110
relationship with going to Lane
Stadium and for some reason ACC
1890
01:40:34,110 --> 01:40:36,550
Network decide this is going to
be a primetime game on Saturday
1891
01:40:36,550 --> 01:40:42,310
night.
Give me the Hokies outright 1716
1892
01:40:42,430 --> 01:40:45,710
Virginia Tech.
A very ugly, low scoring,
1893
01:40:46,150 --> 01:40:49,470
disgusting, gross game spread
makes no sense.
1894
01:40:49,470 --> 01:40:53,110
Give me the Hokies on a rock.
Fight alrighty.
1895
01:40:53,270 --> 01:40:59,030
Let's see if we're as optimistic
as Mr. McDaniel is down here.
1896
01:40:59,030 --> 01:41:02,230
Tally, who you got?
Yeah man, Mike made some great
1897
01:41:02,230 --> 01:41:03,830
points.
You know, like he said, the
1898
01:41:03,830 --> 01:41:07,430
spread makes no sense.
I was looking at it.
1899
01:41:07,430 --> 01:41:09,390
I'm like, man, that's that's
kind of crazy.
1900
01:41:09,830 --> 01:41:15,350
So guess what I did?
I picked pit because our
1901
01:41:15,350 --> 01:41:17,390
coaching staff is not making no
sense.
1902
01:41:18,070 --> 01:41:22,190
Pit to the wind pits going to
cover 2417 pit.
1903
01:41:25,850 --> 01:41:27,570
I mean, it's already up there.
I got Pitt too.
1904
01:41:28,250 --> 01:41:29,850
I'm going.
I'm going to cover, too.
1905
01:41:29,850 --> 01:41:37,610
I got 2720 Pitt.
I I can't trust our run defense
1906
01:41:37,610 --> 01:41:42,410
to not allow big plays yet.
And I still need to see the
1907
01:41:42,410 --> 01:41:44,370
offense put four quarters
together.
1908
01:41:45,010 --> 01:41:49,090
And I'm at a point now in this
season where, until I see it
1909
01:41:49,090 --> 01:41:52,250
actually happen, I have a hard
time picking Virginia Tech.
1910
01:41:52,450 --> 01:41:54,500
So Pitt.
All right.
1911
01:41:54,620 --> 01:41:57,020
Did you get Sheldon's?
Yeah.
1912
01:41:57,940 --> 01:42:00,900
What's he?
He's also saying that I don't
1913
01:42:00,900 --> 01:42:02,860
think we got the score from him.
But he said Fitz winning the
1914
01:42:02,860 --> 01:42:06,220
game.
I'm I'm I'm sorry we're going
1915
01:42:06,260 --> 01:42:07,500
all against you.
Mike here.
1916
01:42:07,780 --> 01:42:10,380
But I'm with them.
I'm fading the Hokies until I
1917
01:42:10,380 --> 01:42:12,900
see a lot more out of them.
I do think it's going to be
1918
01:42:12,900 --> 01:42:13,540
ugly.
I'm.
1919
01:42:13,660 --> 01:42:15,580
I'm with you.
I'm not as high scoring as these
1920
01:42:15,580 --> 01:42:18,020
two guys are.
I think the Hokies cover, but I
1921
01:42:18,020 --> 01:42:19,900
think they lose a heartbreaker
2120.
1922
01:42:20,340 --> 01:42:23,850
I'm not even like an optimist
and for some reason I just have
1923
01:42:23,850 --> 01:42:25,490
a feeling about this for some
reason so.
1924
01:42:25,650 --> 01:42:28,450
We hope you're right it.
Might be Daniel.
1925
01:42:28,450 --> 01:42:31,130
Gut feeling.
I got to see if that plays out,
1926
01:42:31,130 --> 01:42:33,930
man.
It's gone for and against me, so
1927
01:42:33,930 --> 01:42:35,250
we'll see.
It is what?
1928
01:42:35,370 --> 01:42:37,890
Curtis Curtis, you said you
think the score is going to be
1929
01:42:37,890 --> 01:42:41,650
2120. 2120.
So you think the Hulkies cover?
1930
01:42:41,930 --> 01:42:44,730
I think they can cover, but
we're still going to lose.
1931
01:42:44,730 --> 01:42:47,610
It's going to be all some
screwed up ass play, probably
1932
01:42:47,650 --> 01:42:50,090
knowing our luck, just the way
everything's going this year.
1933
01:42:51,110 --> 01:42:54,150
All righty, We got more big
screeners because, you know,
1934
01:42:54,150 --> 01:42:57,670
we're at a point in our lives.
We can curse and be mad at our
1935
01:42:57,670 --> 01:42:59,750
team and throw shit after the
game, but we can still watch
1936
01:42:59,750 --> 01:43:03,270
other games.
I did last week, Had had some
1937
01:43:03,270 --> 01:43:05,750
Scotch, had some Scotch after
the game.
1938
01:43:06,190 --> 01:43:07,910
So let's start with the first
one here.
1939
01:43:07,910 --> 01:43:09,950
Tally, you leading us off
Tally's?
1940
01:43:10,030 --> 01:43:13,870
He's definitely watching USC
Colorado.
1941
01:43:13,870 --> 01:43:16,990
I think that's a high noon kick.
Oh yeah, I talked a little bit
1942
01:43:16,990 --> 01:43:20,930
about it earlier, man.
These people smell blood in the
1943
01:43:20,930 --> 01:43:23,170
water.
Dion, you better get your team
1944
01:43:23,170 --> 01:43:26,730
right because Caleb Williams is
coming in there and he's
1945
01:43:26,730 --> 01:43:30,330
definitely going to cover and
they might score 60 points.
1946
01:43:30,570 --> 01:43:35,450
It's my opinion that that
Colorado offensive line has not
1947
01:43:35,450 --> 01:43:38,410
been good.
Everything that Shador Sanders
1948
01:43:38,410 --> 01:43:42,010
has done, it's kind of been him
making plays in my opinion.
1949
01:43:42,290 --> 01:43:45,370
I think that are most sacked
team or one of the most sacked
1950
01:43:45,370 --> 01:43:49,020
team in the nation.
Which is crazy because they're
1951
01:43:49,020 --> 01:43:53,260
higher than us.
But again, no knock on Colorado.
1952
01:43:53,580 --> 01:43:56,580
They are building a team, but I
think USC is going to smoke
1953
01:43:56,580 --> 01:43:59,700
them.
All right.
1954
01:43:59,700 --> 01:44:03,980
Brian, what you got?
I'm taking the Trojans in this
1955
01:44:03,980 --> 01:44:07,540
one too.
What I saw against Oregon
1956
01:44:08,180 --> 01:44:12,140
against a competent rush that
also has a back end that can
1957
01:44:12,140 --> 01:44:15,780
cover.
Was not very pretty.
1958
01:44:16,140 --> 01:44:18,100
I think we're going to see a
little bit more of that.
1959
01:44:18,420 --> 01:44:22,420
I don't think it's quite as
lopsided as that Oregon contest,
1960
01:44:22,420 --> 01:44:25,300
but I think it definitely covers
that 21 1/2.
1961
01:44:25,300 --> 01:44:28,940
So give me the Trojans.
All righty, go ahead, throw
1962
01:44:28,940 --> 01:44:32,580
Shelton's up there because me
and Shelton are on the same
1963
01:44:32,580 --> 01:44:34,380
page.
Colorado is not going to win
1964
01:44:34,380 --> 01:44:36,860
this game, but they're going to
cover y'all.
1965
01:44:36,860 --> 01:44:39,220
It's Lincoln Rally.
His teams don't play defense.
1966
01:44:39,220 --> 01:44:42,020
They eventually going to get in
the shootout, by the way.
1967
01:44:42,430 --> 01:44:46,630
It's 73 1/2 over under over.
Oh my God.
1968
01:44:46,630 --> 01:44:48,590
Over.
Oh my God over.
1969
01:44:48,670 --> 01:44:50,870
This game's going to be like,
Tally, you ain't wrong.
1970
01:44:50,870 --> 01:44:55,910
I think UFC gets to 60, but I
think, I think Deon ain't far
1971
01:44:55,910 --> 01:44:57,470
behind it.
Like 45.
1972
01:44:58,310 --> 01:44:59,790
The game's hit 100.
Yeah.
1973
01:44:59,870 --> 01:45:01,390
You got any picks on this one,
Mike?
1974
01:45:01,830 --> 01:45:04,750
I like Colorado to cover because
of exactly what you just said,
1975
01:45:04,750 --> 01:45:10,480
Curtis, the the USC defense man.
If if Lincoln Riley ever fires
1976
01:45:10,480 --> 01:45:12,760
Alex Grinch, who gets a real
defensive coordinator, US, he's
1977
01:45:12,760 --> 01:45:14,000
going to be cooking with some
guys, I think.
1978
01:45:15,320 --> 01:45:17,120
We'll see.
I think it's just a Lincoln
1979
01:45:17,120 --> 01:45:17,880
thing.
I think.
1980
01:45:17,880 --> 01:45:19,800
I don't think you know what, I
don't think Lincoln Riley knows
1981
01:45:19,800 --> 01:45:22,240
how to do y'all what.
I don't think he knows.
1982
01:45:22,280 --> 01:45:24,120
I play complimentary football.
He just wants.
1983
01:45:24,480 --> 01:45:27,480
To all the time.
What makes you say that?
1984
01:45:29,040 --> 01:45:31,960
Wherever he's been, he has some
of the most impressive defensive
1985
01:45:31,960 --> 01:45:33,880
talent and he cannot stop
anyone.
1986
01:45:34,210 --> 01:45:36,290
Hey, hey, we need a 6 minute
drive here.
1987
01:45:36,290 --> 01:45:38,970
We're up two touchdowns.
I'm going to try scoring 3
1988
01:45:38,970 --> 01:45:44,290
seconds exactly.
I'm going to go to my game next
1989
01:45:44,290 --> 01:45:46,890
Friday night.
Two teams the Hokies will see,
1990
01:45:47,210 --> 01:45:50,250
which are NC State and
Louisville.
1991
01:45:50,410 --> 01:45:54,930
This game is down at Carter
Finley Stadium on Friday night
1992
01:45:55,370 --> 01:46:00,170
and we got a home dog here.
We got a home dog.
1993
01:46:01,520 --> 01:46:03,280
And I think this is going to be
a fight.
1994
01:46:03,280 --> 01:46:05,440
I think this is going to be the
best Louisville, the best
1995
01:46:05,440 --> 01:46:07,360
defense Louisville has seen all
year.
1996
01:46:07,640 --> 01:46:11,160
I think Louisville has flaws on
the defensive side of the ball.
1997
01:46:11,160 --> 01:46:12,320
We saw that against Georgia
Tech.
1998
01:46:12,320 --> 01:46:15,200
When you give a 28 points to
that dreadful Georgia Tech
1999
01:46:15,200 --> 01:46:16,920
offense, it says a lot about
you.
2000
01:46:17,280 --> 01:46:20,440
So give me NC State.
I think NC State takes the win
2001
01:46:20,520 --> 01:46:25,400
and the cover tally.
Oh, tally.
2002
01:46:25,400 --> 01:46:28,600
OK.
Yeah, I think, I think you,
2003
01:46:29,440 --> 01:46:32,570
North Carolina State.
We'll win and cover here as
2004
01:46:32,570 --> 01:46:35,090
well.
A linebacker, man.
2005
01:46:35,090 --> 01:46:38,770
He's something else.
Another another one that we
2006
01:46:38,770 --> 01:46:40,850
almost got him.
Peyton, Peyton.
2007
01:46:40,850 --> 01:46:43,210
Luke, Peyton Willis.
Wilson.
2008
01:46:43,610 --> 01:46:45,930
Peyton Wilson.
Another almost, man.
2009
01:46:45,930 --> 01:46:48,210
We almost got him like that dude
is a baller.
2010
01:46:48,650 --> 01:46:52,010
I think that they play some
defense in and go in and win
2011
01:46:52,010 --> 01:46:55,370
this.
What we got there with Brian?
2012
01:46:58,210 --> 01:47:00,210
I got the Wolf Pack pulling this
one out too.
2013
01:47:00,210 --> 01:47:03,080
I just think.
It's gonna be enough defense to
2014
01:47:03,080 --> 01:47:05,880
slow down some of what Louis was
doing offensively, and I think
2015
01:47:05,880 --> 01:47:10,680
they'll be able to pull it out.
NC State, always solid defense.
2016
01:47:11,560 --> 01:47:13,200
Defense is going to win you that
game, I think.
2017
01:47:15,320 --> 01:47:17,000
All right, so Sheldon's up
there.
2018
01:47:17,120 --> 01:47:18,960
He's going.
Louisville faded us.
2019
01:47:19,760 --> 01:47:21,440
He faded us.
Mike, are you famous?
2020
01:47:21,440 --> 01:47:22,520
Are you with us?
No.
2021
01:47:22,520 --> 01:47:24,800
NC stayed out.
Right Defense.
2022
01:47:24,960 --> 01:47:26,960
This is the first good, like
real good defense.
2023
01:47:26,960 --> 01:47:28,580
Louisville's play.
Yep.
2024
01:47:28,620 --> 01:47:31,140
And we already seen Louisville's
offensive flaws, so he's going
2025
01:47:31,140 --> 01:47:33,020
with us.
And we already said that, you
2026
01:47:33,020 --> 01:47:36,580
know, Louisville is playing
probably the easiest schedule of
2027
01:47:36,580 --> 01:47:40,540
any ACC team this year.
So up to this point, yeah, it is
2028
01:47:40,700 --> 01:47:42,740
so.
It's so bad, all right?
2029
01:47:43,700 --> 01:47:46,620
By the way, one team that kind
of has not played an ass
2030
01:47:46,620 --> 01:47:49,140
schedule is due.
They've knocked off Clemson.
2031
01:47:49,660 --> 01:47:54,260
Now they get a chance to take on
the Golden Domers in Bryan's.
2032
01:47:54,630 --> 01:47:58,230
Big Screener of the week.
It'll probably be on his 52 inch
2033
01:47:58,670 --> 01:47:59,750
point point.
Which one?
2034
01:47:59,750 --> 01:48:01,430
Which one's he going to be on
this?
2035
01:48:01,550 --> 01:48:04,430
That one right there.
I got, I got the 50 fiver here,
2036
01:48:04,430 --> 01:48:10,990
I got another 52 are up here, so
it'll be on the 50 fiver. 5 1/2
2037
01:48:10,990 --> 01:48:13,830
point line.
He says Duke, I'm going with
2038
01:48:13,830 --> 01:48:15,910
Duke.
I I mean, I don't think, I'm not
2039
01:48:15,910 --> 01:48:17,390
sure that Duke wins this out,
right?
2040
01:48:17,390 --> 01:48:20,550
But I think this is a field
goal.
2041
01:48:21,290 --> 01:48:26,410
Last minute taking the lead game
type of situation for Notre
2042
01:48:26,410 --> 01:48:27,490
Dame.
I think this is going to come
2043
01:48:27,490 --> 01:48:31,010
down to the wire and it's either
going to be a a field goal late
2044
01:48:31,010 --> 01:48:34,410
to break a tie or a touchdown
late to to take the lead back
2045
01:48:34,410 --> 01:48:36,170
from Duke.
Alright, I'm gonna be nice.
2046
01:48:36,170 --> 01:48:38,170
Mike will throw yours.
What do you got on this one?
2047
01:48:38,650 --> 01:48:41,050
I am I man.
I want no part of this one.
2048
01:48:41,050 --> 01:48:44,850
Notre Dame in a let down spot
after we saw what happened last
2049
01:48:44,850 --> 01:48:46,770
year, right?
Notre Dame lost to Ohio State
2050
01:48:46,770 --> 01:48:48,370
and bit him in the ass the
following week.
2051
01:48:48,930 --> 01:48:49,690
Marshall.
Yeah.
2052
01:48:50,980 --> 01:48:52,660
Mike says he's not.
Are you making a prediction or
2053
01:48:52,660 --> 01:48:53,940
you just throwing this one off
your board?
2054
01:48:54,500 --> 01:48:56,980
Notre Dame.
OK, Notre Dame, they're they're,
2055
01:48:57,060 --> 01:48:58,580
I mean, they're just, they're
better.
2056
01:48:58,980 --> 01:49:00,180
I'm just gonna go with Notre
Dame here.
2057
01:49:00,500 --> 01:49:03,340
Tally, Tally, Tally.
I'm going with Notre Dame and
2058
01:49:03,340 --> 01:49:06,420
the only reason that I'm going
with Notre Dame is because I
2059
01:49:06,420 --> 01:49:09,260
wanted to go Duke.
But I have been horrible at
2060
01:49:09,260 --> 01:49:12,500
picking, if you go back and look
over the weeks, so I just went
2061
01:49:12,500 --> 01:49:13,980
with the opposite team I was
gonna pick.
2062
01:49:15,140 --> 01:49:17,020
Well, I feel in my gut I'm going
the opposite.
2063
01:49:17,020 --> 01:49:18,260
Way I'm going the opposite way
because.
2064
01:49:18,540 --> 01:49:20,500
My gut ain't treating me nice.
Lately, Sally said.
2065
01:49:20,500 --> 01:49:23,660
He's fading himself.
Exactly.
2066
01:49:25,140 --> 01:49:28,980
Who Sheldon got on this, and I'm
with.
2067
01:49:29,020 --> 01:49:32,620
I'm with everybody else.
Brian, give me Notre Dame 5 1/2,
2068
01:49:32,620 --> 01:49:35,980
and it's not so much that I
don't think Duke's a good team.
2069
01:49:36,020 --> 01:49:39,340
But yeah, we saw a Clifton game.
Clemson should have probably
2070
01:49:39,340 --> 01:49:42,180
beat them by 14 points.
You turned the ball that many
2071
01:49:42,180 --> 01:49:44,740
times over inside your 10 yard
line.
2072
01:49:45,170 --> 01:49:47,970
You're going to lose.
I don't thought Nader name gets
2073
01:49:47,970 --> 01:49:51,170
that Mike you put a good point
they are in a bad let down spot.
2074
01:49:51,170 --> 01:49:53,930
But the way that game I mean
even a worse let down spot
2075
01:49:53,930 --> 01:49:59,410
because legitimately 10 off 10
defensive players missing a
2076
01:49:59,410 --> 01:50:04,410
defensive lineman exactly where
Ohio State ran that ball on
2077
01:50:04,410 --> 01:50:06,690
literally the last play of the
game.
2078
01:50:06,690 --> 01:50:10,730
But I think they bounced back by
the way game day is in Duke and
2079
01:50:10,730 --> 01:50:14,330
now game day the only spot they
have not been is what UVA.
2080
01:50:15,600 --> 01:50:18,800
It's like 2 spots now.
Like it's every A/C school, but
2081
01:50:18,800 --> 01:50:22,960
UVA now has gotten a visit from
game day after the day.
2082
01:50:23,320 --> 01:50:25,840
Alrighty.
Another I think this is going to
2083
01:50:25,840 --> 01:50:29,120
be this might be the funnest
game of the weekend.
2084
01:50:29,640 --> 01:50:34,800
Kansas, Texas, Texas is a 17
point favorite.
2085
01:50:36,080 --> 01:50:38,360
Mike, we're going to let you
leave this one, man.
2086
01:50:38,360 --> 01:50:41,800
What do you think with this
crazy game which I think is this
2087
01:50:41,800 --> 01:50:44,520
in?
Make sure here.
2088
01:50:44,640 --> 01:50:49,600
This is in Austin, this is at
Royal Texas.
2089
01:50:49,880 --> 01:50:52,400
This is a this is when you're 5
stars.
2090
01:50:52,400 --> 01:50:55,440
Just pull away.
Kansas is very well coached, but
2091
01:50:55,560 --> 01:50:58,280
there comes a point in time
where you're not going to be
2092
01:50:58,280 --> 01:50:59,920
able to defend Texas for four
quarters.
2093
01:51:00,000 --> 01:51:01,240
Give me.
I mean Texas has been really
2094
01:51:01,240 --> 01:51:04,320
impressive.
So and Kansas is a good team.
2095
01:51:04,320 --> 01:51:06,400
They're four and oh, they're a
good team like Texas.
2096
01:51:06,400 --> 01:51:09,560
They should have the attention
of this Texas team.
2097
01:51:10,290 --> 01:51:12,210
All right, What's Shelton got on
this?
2098
01:51:12,210 --> 01:51:13,290
This is the one he wanted to
pick.
2099
01:51:13,290 --> 01:51:15,930
He's going Texas.
He's with you, Mike Talley.
2100
01:51:16,810 --> 01:51:20,170
I'm going to go Kansas.
I'm going to go Kansas for the
2101
01:51:20,170 --> 01:51:23,810
same reason that I went Notre
Dame, because I seen Texas.
2102
01:51:23,890 --> 01:51:25,770
I thought Texas.
I think I was the only one that
2103
01:51:25,770 --> 01:51:28,050
picked Texas against Alabama.
I thought Texas, you were a
2104
01:51:28,090 --> 01:51:30,250
great team.
I thought they were going to go
2105
01:51:30,250 --> 01:51:31,410
in and win.
I think they're going to win
2106
01:51:31,410 --> 01:51:32,650
this game.
Hell, they're probably going to
2107
01:51:32,650 --> 01:51:34,500
cover.
That's what my mind says.
2108
01:51:34,500 --> 01:51:36,380
So I said fuck it, let's go to
Kansas.
2109
01:51:37,940 --> 01:51:41,180
The opposite bets of every of
Jonathan Talley this week.
2110
01:51:41,540 --> 01:51:44,180
Listen, I'm going to Kansas
here.
2111
01:51:45,020 --> 01:51:47,140
One reason y'all know what's
next weekend?
2112
01:51:48,700 --> 01:51:50,580
What?
Let's go to the Texas State
2113
01:51:50,580 --> 01:51:52,260
Fair.
It's the Red River Shootout
2114
01:51:52,260 --> 01:51:54,060
Oklahoma last time in the Big
12.
2115
01:51:54,460 --> 01:51:57,540
I think they overlook Kansas a
little bit where this is a
2116
01:51:57,540 --> 01:51:59,790
tighter game.
Mike, you're right.
2117
01:51:59,790 --> 01:52:02,950
Five stars prevail in the end by
like 10 to 13.
2118
01:52:03,190 --> 01:52:05,470
But I think Kansas can cover and
I think this is going to be an
2119
01:52:05,470 --> 01:52:11,550
entertaining, high scoring game.
Yeah, that's fine, Ron.
2120
01:52:12,830 --> 01:52:15,870
I'm going K U2.
Kansas is going to have a back
2121
01:52:15,870 --> 01:52:19,150
door cover there at the end.
What's the score then?
2122
01:52:22,750 --> 01:52:28,670
Give me, give me like 4228.
I got you.
2123
01:52:28,710 --> 01:52:29,910
I got you.
That makes sense.
2124
01:52:29,910 --> 01:52:31,230
That makes sense.
All right.
2125
01:52:31,750 --> 01:52:35,110
Next game, Last game.
This is none of ours, but we
2126
01:52:35,110 --> 01:52:36,870
just always choose one extra
game.
2127
01:52:37,270 --> 01:52:43,150
Friday night, 9:00, Utah.
Oregon State in Corvallis, Utah.
2128
01:52:43,150 --> 01:52:46,630
The hottest team in the PAC 12.
By the way, this will not be a
2129
01:52:46,630 --> 01:52:49,670
high scoring game.
This will be a lot of hitting.
2130
01:52:51,630 --> 01:52:55,030
1716 There's Mike right there.
1716 Who?
2131
01:52:56,390 --> 01:53:01,190
1716, Oregon State.
Utah's quarterback issues
2132
01:53:01,190 --> 01:53:03,070
finally kept.
I want to call them issues.
2133
01:53:03,070 --> 01:53:04,710
They've They've won every game
they played.
2134
01:53:05,470 --> 01:53:08,030
The the the quarterback
situation finally catches up to
2135
01:53:08,030 --> 01:53:11,790
Utah.
Alrighty, they cover though they
2136
01:53:11,790 --> 01:53:16,990
cover prime.
I've got Oregon State here.
2137
01:53:17,910 --> 01:53:23,070
I think this is going to be, as
Mike said, a game where the
2138
01:53:23,070 --> 01:53:24,470
quarterback catches up with
them.
2139
01:53:24,470 --> 01:53:28,090
I think that.
Oregon State can generate just
2140
01:53:28,090 --> 01:53:32,770
enough offense against that
really good Utah defense to kind
2141
01:53:32,770 --> 01:53:35,770
of stretch out that that 3 1/2
to about 6 points.
2142
01:53:37,690 --> 01:53:39,890
All righty.
I'm next on this one.
2143
01:53:41,530 --> 01:53:43,570
I'm next on this one.
I'm going to go Utah.
2144
01:53:44,210 --> 01:53:46,250
I like Utah.
I think Utah's the better team
2145
01:53:46,250 --> 01:53:48,250
regardless of quarterback
situation.
2146
01:53:48,530 --> 01:53:52,850
We don't know.
It seemed like that, you know,
2147
01:53:53,210 --> 01:53:55,170
cameras.
And it's close to coming back.
2148
01:53:55,640 --> 01:53:59,440
If the game was Saturday, he
probably he is a chance he
2149
01:53:59,440 --> 01:54:02,480
probably would be back this week
but I think Utah grinds it out.
2150
01:54:02,640 --> 01:54:06,440
I think Mike, you're not far off
on that 1716 score.
2151
01:54:06,880 --> 01:54:10,840
Stay up till midnight Friday
night gets 2TV's going state.
2152
01:54:11,040 --> 01:54:13,080
Put the other one on.
Brian will have his Braves on
2153
01:54:13,080 --> 01:54:16,240
the TV as well on Friday night
watching these sipping a little
2154
01:54:16,240 --> 01:54:18,400
drink.
Tally, who you got?
2155
01:54:19,000 --> 01:54:21,360
I got Utah winning, man.
I think Utah's just.
2156
01:54:21,800 --> 01:54:25,000
I would take them straight up
money, line, close game.
2157
01:54:25,500 --> 01:54:27,780
I think it's going to be a close
game, but I think I just
2158
01:54:27,780 --> 01:54:30,060
watching Utah at the beginning
of the season, you know, play
2159
01:54:30,060 --> 01:54:33,900
this Florida, I think they're
just going to be a very physical
2160
01:54:33,900 --> 01:54:35,900
team and they're going to win
the game.
2161
01:54:36,460 --> 01:54:40,140
All righty, Shelton takes, he's
around with you and the Beavers.
2162
01:54:40,140 --> 01:54:43,380
So the going with the home
Beavers there.
2163
01:54:43,380 --> 01:54:46,580
Listen, Mike, it's been fun,
man.
2164
01:54:47,100 --> 01:54:49,660
We love having you on.
Awesome time.
2165
01:54:50,120 --> 01:54:50,720
Yeah.
I appreciate it.
2166
01:54:50,720 --> 01:54:54,040
Guys, great insight, man.
I I vouched for it a little bit
2167
01:54:54,040 --> 01:54:56,480
a couple weeks ago.
I said let me come on at some
2168
01:54:56,480 --> 01:54:58,600
point and go on a little rant.
You guys let me do that.
2169
01:54:58,600 --> 01:55:00,320
So I appreciate it.
Anytime, man.
2170
01:55:00,360 --> 01:55:02,960
Probably, man.
We gotta let everybody get their
2171
01:55:02,960 --> 01:55:04,920
rants out.
Now everybody's gonna be
2172
01:55:04,920 --> 01:55:06,840
messaging us.
Hey, Mike Guest, can I come on
2173
01:55:06,840 --> 01:55:08,280
too?
Well, you gotta know how to rant
2174
01:55:08,280 --> 01:55:09,800
good.
Mike knows how to rant good.
2175
01:55:09,800 --> 01:55:10,960
If Y'all didn't notice, he had a
four.
2176
01:55:10,960 --> 01:55:14,120
And a half minute rant on.
Fits coherent.
2177
01:55:14,680 --> 01:55:18,000
Coherent You have income.
I have getting coherent rants.
2178
01:55:18,120 --> 01:55:20,240
All righty.
I don't think anything's broken.
2179
01:55:20,240 --> 01:55:21,800
I've been keeping up with
Twitter here myself.
2180
01:55:21,800 --> 01:55:24,960
So that's wraps up this episode
of the Boundary Corner podcast,
2181
01:55:24,960 --> 01:55:28,280
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01:55:28,280 --> 01:55:31,200
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Mike McDaniel graduated from the Pamplin College of Business at Virginia Tech in 2015. He has previously written for Gobbler Country on the SB Nation network, Fighting Gobbler for Fansided, InsideTheACC.com, The Tech Lunch Pail, and most recently for Sports Illustrated. In addition to writing, Mike is also the host of the Sons of Saturday Hoops podcast, co-host of Basketball Conference: The ACC Football Podcast and the Hokie Hangover Podcast covering Virginia Tech athletics.