Know the Enemy: Old Dominion

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Welcome back.
The boundary Corner podcast.

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My name is Curtis Wilson.
I'm Brian Sigler, buddy.

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We are back finally on game
week.

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We have a game.
This Friday.

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It's actually happening.
How you feeling buddy?

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It's been what eight long months
of no hokey football and it is

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back this Friday. 7 p.m.
ESPN you on a Friday night.

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I'm just so glad it's back, man.
It's been so much fun this week

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doing the old hat of Looking at
data looking at Players talking

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with you about shit shooting the
breeze and knowing that it's

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back.
Regardless what happens?

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The Hokies are back on the field
Friday night and me and I can't

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wait.
Yeah, it's gonna be nice to

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finally have some actual stuff
to argue about.

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That's actually on the record
and not speculative, right?

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Like we feel like the between
the timeline between the chats

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between you nobody's at work.
Work, things like that.

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Like, we've been talking
speculatively about what these

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Hoagies can do.
We're about to finally have some

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real stuff to talk about and it
was kind of good to kind of get

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back into that flow of watching
the tape.

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Breaking it down, seeing what
the opponents are all about.

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Looking at the data to see if we
can, you know, peel the onion

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back a little bit on the who the
monarchs are and how the Hokies

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can go about putting them down.
Absolutely.

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That's the fun part in.
This is the fun part of our

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season from Now until December
because the content rights

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itself, we have to do the
research, we have to figure out

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the data points, where they're
not good, where they're bad or

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where we're speculating their
good and bad.

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Because right now, all we have
to look at is the 2021 season,

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which we were peeling back from
looking at tape, looking at

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data, and then going into this.
But before we get deepen that

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tonight because Know, The Enemy
is coming up in a little while,

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here, we do have Hokies news and
notes and Ryan, when this tweet

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dropped, last week, we had
gotten the winds, we had gotten

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the winds that it was going to
happen, we felt it and it's

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coming.
It was kind of Return of the

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lunch pail to Virginia check
that tweet that went out with JC

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in jgw and Xavier and Pearson
all speaking to what it meant to

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them.
And then seeing some of the

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highlights of those guys
playing, like it just it just

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got you this warm fuzzy feeling
inside.

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At least it did me.
Yeah, I was right there with you

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man.
It feels like a I mean we talked

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about the prior has been a
culture, hire a big-time culture

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higher, and there's no bigger
emblem of the Virginia Tech

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culture than the lunch pail in
the lunch pail defense, correct.

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Bringing that back.
Was a no brainer price.

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Said it was a no-brainer and
it's something that's been in

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the works since he was hired.
I'm glad they kind of saved it,

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kept it.
Kept it under wraps for as long

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as they could and unveiled it
when they did.

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It was a good way to kind of
roll into the season with a

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little bit of extra hype a
little bit extra juice juice

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and, and I'm excited, and I'm
excited about what that means

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for this defense.
I mean, you know, we can talk

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about it all.
We want to about, you know, it's

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just a lunch pail, but I think
It's what it stands for and what

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that can do in terms of
motivation for your play and

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motivation, for your work, ethic
and things like that.

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When you have that type of
tradition, people, take it

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seriously, and that can Elevate
their work that can Elevate

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their play.
It is a mentality.

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Yeah, it is mentality.
And I know here in prodded a

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speak at the presser about, it's
always been a thing for the

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defense, but I think if we look
in the history of Virginia Tech,

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the lunch pail is a mentality
for the whole team.

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It was a for the you no offense
back as we were coming up when

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we used to just rode great
people and put people into

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misery or hit them with a
high-fly play.

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After you beating them down or
the block ponds or Beamer ball.

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So, it was, it's that mentality
across the whole team.

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And if you can remember like one
of the old traditions were when

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you went on the field or when
you went to someone else's place

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in one, you took the lunch pail
to the Middlefield you dug out a

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big chunk of it.
You threw it in there because

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you claim their Turf, that
mentality is something I love

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something else, I loved and I
think having guys on the staff,

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two guys that were part.
When that lunch pail first

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appeared, 27 years ago in 1995
and again, it gets you kind of

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emotional and think about it was
when Pearson Prelude, one of the

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all-time hooky Greeks Comes in
gets the lunch pail talks about

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it and presents it to tomorrow.
Connor to be the holder for this

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year like that, that if you
didn't have some onions watching

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that it's tough to say.
If you're Virginia Tech pain, if

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you know, what Pearson was to
the program and how big of an

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impact he had.
Yeah, it's a big deal and I

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know, you know, we saw people
talk about on the timeline that

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world that offensive side of it
to like you were talking about,

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you know, Dwight was saying, you
know, it was a mentality.

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That we all had, even though it
wasn't, you know, a lunch pail

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offense, was lunch pail defense.
We had that mentality, but we

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also knew that, you know, as the
offense, you know, that lunch

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pail defense could pick us up.
Yeah, when things weren't

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weren't going quite the way we
want to.

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And I think that mentality
knowing that defense has that

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mentality for you that can help
the offensive mentality as well

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as a.
Okay, well, we don't got to get

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all of them.
We just got to get the ones that

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count.
Absolutely, absolutely.

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So big thing, big motivational
kind of done it.

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A really good point in time as
they get into that game week,

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sort of the unveiling of that
and seeing everybody speak to it

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and knowing the history behind
it.

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All right, let's flip over real
quick.

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Couple injury notes.
Benji guy Snail out for the

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season.
Matt Johnson out for the season.

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Benji.
Done really hurt sucks.

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You tours his other sucks.
It looks like it could

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potentially be another torn ACL.
You know usually you hear one

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go.
A lot of times that other one

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blows out or sand.
Achilles only year that also the

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walk on Matt Johnson out here
from Deep Run price.

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Said it.
Got we expect to be on special

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teams contributor out for the
seasons.

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Well, not specified.
Benji's wasn't specified either.

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I'm speculating either ACL or
Achilles because usually, when

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you hear, One go you here injury
and you here season ended.

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It's usually the other of the
Achilles blew out.

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Yep.
Yeah, I mean it happens often

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times because you know you're
compensating for the one and

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next thing you know, the other
one goes, you know, thankfully

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it's not the same one I'm Toby
and generally in generally, you

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know, once you have those ACLS
generally, once they're back

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there, they're a little more
solid than they were the first.

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Go round so yeah, let's hope
that's the case for him.

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Speedy recovery to both of those
gentlemen, but again, two guys

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that were going to be minimal to
sub minimal contributors for the

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2022 season.
Probably hurts more with Johnson

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than anything.
Probably having a guy like him

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out there that on a special
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Probably more than Gaza know who
may have found the red shirt

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regardless this year.
All right, something else kind

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of talked about last week that
caught my eye eye, man.

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Like that was Brent Pride.
Discussing with the Gameday Ops

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are going to look like on the
defensive side of the ball and

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getting a little into the
offensive side of the ball.

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Defensively.
He said straight up along with

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himself, obviously Chris Marvel
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Derrick Jones on the field
Jayceon dip.

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Any, any shock seeing that?
I mean, know you got you got one

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guy at each level of the the
defense out there, so that just

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makes sense.
All right, that's a, that's a

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guy on the field that can talk
specifically to each level.

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The defense get them where they
need to be.

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And then also obviously I feel
like defensive coordinators have

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a better feel for the game when
they're calling it from the

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sidelines.
Yeah that's a big thing.

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Even though we know prize going
to be calling it most of the

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time, I'm sure there's going to
be input with more of there.

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I think having a guy like JC on
the sidelines is Big because JC

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is a fire guy you know kind of
like tap was before you know

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kind of like Charlie whiles you
sold them.

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Get animated on the sidelines,
they punch things, they break

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things shit.
Hopefully JC doesn't break his

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hand at any point in time.
This year, that is what it is.

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Obviously if those three guys
are on the field, it's leaving

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Pearson Prelude and Sean Quinn
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And I think you just Kind of
said, it piercing on the back

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end with Quinn coaching.
The nickel in the Sam's closer

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to the line of scrimmage.
Right?

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Yep, that's exactly it.
And I think also, when you look

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at it you're talking about two
very cerebral and experienced

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folks in the booth in terms of
breaking down.

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Oh yeah, what's happening?
You got, I mean Pearson

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obviously with with his pedigree
And then you talk about Quinn, a

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guy that has been, you know, a
head coach at another level, a

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guy that's been defensive
coordinator at another level.

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So he's a guy that can diagnose
and get that information down to

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the sidelines when you see
something different than what

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they see from that position.
Yeah, so that's the way it'll

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look.
So as your kind of perusing, the

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sidelines notice, you'll notice
those three guys, maybe they

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shape Pearson up in the Box.
I almost want to make a bet that

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they will show Pearson in the
Just because he played in his

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first year coaching.
Alright, offensive game day.

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We didn't get as much on it, but
we kind of got that they've been

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toying around with her to be
Brad, Lynn or Tyler, Bowing in

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the box.
And kind of the way Pride came

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off of how it was going to be in
the Box, not a shock with an

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offensive coordinator.
And Glenn was going to be on the

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field potentially.
He didn't really talk to anyone

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else, but let's just kind of do
some speculation. if bones in

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the box and Glen's on the field,
let's start with Joe Rudolph?

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Where's Joe Rudolph boxer field?
I'd say he is on the field,

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okay?
Now, from your plan experience,

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I'm assuming that with an
offensive line coach they need

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to be on the field because of
the amount of people they need

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to talk with.
Yeah.

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I mean, I've never had a
offensive line coach that was in

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the booth in my, in my all my
years of playing, I never had

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offensive line coach, that was
in the food.

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So my assumption is that he will
be there unless there's

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obviously, you know, a backup
line coach might be up there,

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but but never never never the
primary position coach.

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My other thought is that
fontelle Minds will also be on

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the field.
Okay, because if you've got,

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I'll say this, you've got a,
you've got Boeing up, their

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minds is kind of the guy on the
field that can work with the

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tight ends and the wide
receivers.

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So that's my thought they're.
All right.

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What do you think holds up in
the box or do you think it's

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only going to be Tyler bowling
with some analysts in the Box

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because obviously old some
special teams coordinator?

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I'm thinking I'm thinking it's
going to be bowing with some of

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the other assistant position
coaches and some analysts.

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That's my field, just because of
what hope does from a special

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teams coordinator.
You want that guy on the field,

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okay?
That's going to be interesting

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to see.
It will be interesting to see

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who is on the field in,
obviously, who's up in the Box.

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Hopefully we get some more info
on that.

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I would also be interested
because we do have more staffers

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who can be in the Box this year.
Especially, you know, Ryan Chris

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right behind Chris getting a lot
of Pub from Brent Pride talking

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about him.
Is he that second set of As for

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Tyler bone in the box where you
can have for the offensive

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coaches down the field including
poultry specialty for.

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So that'll be really
interesting.

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Well Brian, we were hoping we
were hoping we were hoping and

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it did happen today.
Before we went live, the depth

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chart was released.
Well, The Unofficial depth chart

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and obviously, we've got a few
things.

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We want to talk to on that
tonight.

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And let's talk about first, the
one that called your eyes, you

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mentioned was the wide receiver
room.

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Yeah, that was that was an
interesting one.

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Wasn't it?
When we, when we were looking at

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it?
We were like, okay, well, that's

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a little different because we
talked the last, you know, few

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weeks who said.
All right?

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So three guys, pretty much locks
in terms of amount of, about of

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reps playing time snaps that
they will get in a given game.

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What we didn't know is who that
four and five guy, we're going

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to be.
We now know that that was not a

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shock.
Yeah, we're not a shop.

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We got guys smell in there at
the for it is the 5.

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That is the pretty big.
I mean I'll say it big shot

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William caki V, Texas katowice.
This pack of Itza.

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Walk-on wide receiver from
Charlotte 61 195.

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Four pounds.
Definitely Providence High

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School down there.
Redshirt Junior.

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His name.
Had gotten mention though, you

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got mentioned in the last few
weeks about how coach was

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impressed with him.
Um, you know, there's not much

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he redshirted he played a, he
played a few games and 2020 on

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special teams.
Don't have any info fee, play

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lash.
I'm assuming, if he's a redshirt

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Junior, you played last year as
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But it's one of those chakras
because the fifth guy we were,

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you know, Christian moths, Jalen
Jones, plethora of other

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players.
So it's kind of shocking that

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walk on Big Willie.
It's that fifth receiver spot

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and you know what, good on that
kid.

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You don't like it for probably
busting his ass giving 110%

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every day to wear.
If other potentially more

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talented players weren't taken
and he's busting his ass.

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Yeah, there you go.
I would hope that first play of

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the game.
He's on the field.

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I'll say this.
So you know, we see him.

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There were a little shocked that
that we see.

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Name there.
But we're also not seeing from a

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depth chart just because of how
its structured is what those

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hybrid players are doing within
certain formations whether it's

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the three-wide sets or what have
you, because I imagine that

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we're going to see a whole lot
of Connor blumrich split out

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wide.
I imagine that there's going to

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be sets and formations where we
see chance black split out wide

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be shocking.
Yeah, I don't think this is

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necessarily You know, he might
be fifth in terms of, you know,

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he's got a WR next to his name
right now but that's not

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necessarily saying he's going to
be the fifth option at the wide

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receiver position.
Well well we look at because of

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how much we have that position
flexibility with some of the

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other players in that offense.
Well especially when we look at

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tight end and it's literally or
or which tells me Nick's gonna

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be on the field, a lot Drake's
going to be on the field a lot.

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Conner's going to be on the
field, a lot.

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Yeah.
I mean Gary Kent Drake has great

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athleticism, he can split out,
he can do a lot of things in the

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short game with obviously
calling, Connors got some good

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speed.
Sounds like his route running

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and hands are coming along as
well so you know, we'll see him

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a lot.
I feel like and you know they're

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going to even do some flexible
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So this is not going to be and I
haven't even mentioned my

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favorite player Daquan right
yet.

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He's not on the depth chart for
on what he's out on the depth

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chart yet.
He's not on the depth chart yet

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what Braun is trying to say is
when you put the wide receiver

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room on the depth chart it
actually should go wide receiver

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than it should Encompass tight
end and it shouldn't come as

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running back a little bit.
These are wide receiver well

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when you're talking about the
slot position you're probably

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talking about a truce lot but
then you're also talking about

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two or three hybrid players that
are going to be in there as well

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and then you probably are going
to see it some point and we saw

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it in the spring game, Jaden in
the Wayne kicking out playing.

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Wow.
Pipe laying eggs because they

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did show that position
flexibility.

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So and that's something we
haven't seen a lot of, you know,

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shout out David Cunningham and
all the reporters down there and

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giving us Insight.
We never saw a lot of those

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periods where they were truly
run sets with you were like an

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see, like get me what they're
running sets.

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Let me see.
Who's on the field.

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We never saw it, obviously, that
will be unveiled Friday night.

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All right, let's Flip It To The
bread-and-butter Man.

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The offensive line.
So Shit, and Daniel Miller Tech

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on the on the right side.
I think that's.

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And I would say that's really
shocking but that's disturbing.

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But let me break it down a
little bit further than that

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because I'm not as concerned as
I think some people would be

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because when you're talking
about a too deep on the

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offensive line, you're not
really talking about a to a full

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to line.
Most of these guys are not going

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to be playing.
It's going to be a 7 to 8, man.

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Rotation, you're going to get
your starters and then you're

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going to have, you know, your
Braille and more that's going to

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be a swing guard, probably
Xavier Chaplin, that's going to

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be a swing tackle and then
you've got Jack Holly field at

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Centre.
Those are going to be the eight

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guys that are going to primary
reps at the position, barring

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significant injury.
Now, if we do have significant

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injury, it gets a little scary.
But we still have a traditional

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eight-man rotation that most
offensive line coaches are

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comfortable with.
I don't think there's a big flaw

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in any of those first seven or
eight guys.

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After that, it's a very steep
drop off.

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All right.
Do you think Xavier is ready to

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play in the first month?
Or is he one of those guys?

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He's like the seven and a
quarter and it's that first

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month and been practice talking
about, he's like, these guys are

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getting better in the season and
where we hope we don't have to

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see him until after.
After four three or four games,

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I mean, you want to get him,
some reps at least at Wofford

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Saturday and hopefully Saturday
at ODU, Friday, I'm proud of

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you.
At least it'll be a Friday night

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at least at least at Wofford
though.

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You want to get him some
significant reps but then you

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probably don't want to put him
in there unless you absolutely

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have to after that because you
probably want to say if we can

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red shirt and great.
If we can't that's fine too

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because he's ready to play.
So you know, you're holding him

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back as much as you can.
You get in maybe one or two

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games early in the season and
then unless you absolutely have

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to get him reps.
You kind of holding back.

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Yeah, absolutely.
Because what the hope is you get

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into that November part of the
schedule and you decide which

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two games there.
Yep, that you want him to play

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in.
To get more reps to get ready

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for next year to probably be the
FrontRunner for left tackle,

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he's the left tackle in waiting
for sure.

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Yeah.
He's the left tackle in Waiting,

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he's the guy that's gonna
relieve Silas of his duties at

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the end of the season.
Now we go.

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All right, defensive in.
Obviously with the news today

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that CJ McRae is banged up
there.

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Potentially seeing if you will
make the trip down to Norfolk

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for Friday night and we heard
that it's like, okay and I think

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Brian would you got kind of a Is
when you see three young guys on

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that, too deep.
Yeah, that was the big thing for

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me, you know, seeing you know,
McDonald was the one that jumped

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off in terms of not expecting
him to be at that point.

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So seeing him there is
interesting, but especially

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Burgos and moist and the the
true freshman in there, you

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know, we got Burgos kind of in
that that quasi two, two, three,

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three, three deep at one end.
You got moist in there and I

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think, you know, once you get
McRae back Hopefully, it's this

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week.
I think that's one of those

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things where he's banged up
apparently he practiced today.

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So he's not it's not a
significant injury but it might

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be one of those.
He's a guy we're going to need a

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month from now.
Let's not rush him back against

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ODU.
Well, it's a guy.

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You feel like you're going to
need more next week potentially

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than this week?
Absolutely.

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You know, it's one of those
things where if we're

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controlling this game in, CJ
doesn't need to Play great less

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physical toll on his body,
whatever.

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Part of the body is injured to
get him healthy and be a full,

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go for Boston College, and I
think that's the issue.

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But I think seeing those young
guys you starting to see, you

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know, some of the older guys who
have been here for a few years,

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no disrespect to them.
Like Eli.

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Atoms are kind of getting in the
back seat.

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Could they still see potential
time?

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Yes, it's the line.
You know, the bodies that aren't

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named.
They're still going to get some

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play time.
So don't I'm not going to be

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shy.
About that.

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Yeah I'm kind of happy.
I'll say this.

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I'm kind of happy.
I'm not seeing Eli Adams in

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there and that's no knock on him
personally.

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But based on his size and what
he brings his pass rush was

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never in his speed was never
Elite enough to justify what we

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gave up in his physical size.
He would get pushed around he

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unless he was beating you around
the edge with his speed.

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He didn't really bring a lot to
the table solid tackler, but

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overall just not.
Not a well-rounded player enough

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to have out there for more than
a spot spot snap here or there.

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So seeing these guys, As these
younger guys, come up, making

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plays, and challenging, some of
those Veterans for these

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rotational spots.
On the defensive line, I think,

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is a big thing.
Yep.

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Now, what kind of was a shocker
to me was a linebacker and no,

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not my crocheting.
Those are exactly probably like

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we expected to see them, but
when we take a look at the will,

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it's Jaden Keller.
Gave McDonald or Alan Tisdale

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The triple or again, in at a
position, unlike tight end where

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it's very unlikely.
All three are going to be able

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to feel the same time.
And I look at this and I just

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think I think Jaden Keller is
coming on like a freaking

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freight train to take that spot.
Yeah I mean it looks like Keller

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is I mean it's gonna be his I
think by the end of the season

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like.
If it if it isn't, you know,

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already he's obviously one a
right now, he's the That's going

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to be on the field first.
But the interesting thing that I

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saw in there and especially
since we didn't see a guy like

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Dean Ferguson's name in here,
seeing Jaden McDonald, kind of

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ahead of Alan Tisdale and we
knew that Tisdale has been

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running with the threes during
some of these scrimmage sessions

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in practice.
But We didn't know if that was

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necessarily indicative of what
the depth chart will look like,

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if that's just, you know,
something that he's been doing.

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But apparently, he was wearing a
scout team jersey one day.

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And like so this is this is an
interesting situation, but I

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said it last week, you know,
this can only be an elevation of

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playwright because when we talk
about Alan Tisdale's play, it's

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always been inconsistent.
He had a breakout year in

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nineteen and it's kind of Been
steadily and meddling.

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He's been meddling.
We know he had things going on

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in his life birth of a child and
stuff like that.

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And that trust me that can that
can get you from chasing your

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goals to sort of level setting
and normally attempted to attack

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those goals again.
So it's just interesting to see

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that but everything from Keller
it's just he's getting the size.

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I mean he's 63 already he's
already up in the 225 pound

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range and he Remember he was a
recruited as a receiver if I

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don't recall, right, I believe.
So, and he was an athlete.

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So this guy has some nasty nasty
athleticism that.

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If you're talking about, you
know, next year, is he the mic

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is potentially kalai.
Lawson, who was seen at practice

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today, which is good, which is
good, same way.

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Maybe he's getting closer to
going in that little Nick, he

447
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:47,300
had is gone.
Gone.

448
00:26:47,300 --> 00:26:49,600
I hope so at least for the rest
of the season.

449
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:55,400
But if Keller, is that guy.
I mean athletically in the

450
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,600
linebacking corps, we're going
to go from where we've been

451
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:03,400
solid to back to.
I think Tremaine, I think

452
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,800
Xavier, I think some of those
other guys like that which is a

453
00:27:05,808 --> 00:27:09,800
big step in the right direction
in this era of college football.

454
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,500
Yeah.
And I just checked so he was

455
00:27:12,500 --> 00:27:15,800
recruited as a linebacker but he
came in at 2020.

456
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:21,600
Well, So he's put on 21 pounds
and one and a half Seasons here.

457
00:27:22,900 --> 00:27:24,400
I think that's pretty big for
him.

458
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,600
I think that's going to and he's
only going to get better going

459
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,100
forward especially with guys
like Marvin pry.

460
00:27:32,100 --> 00:27:35,800
Working with him, so heavily.
So I'm looking forward to seeing

461
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,100
what this kid can do long term
for sure.

462
00:27:38,900 --> 00:27:40,900
Awesome.
Well, last piece want to take a

463
00:27:40,908 --> 00:27:46,800
look at here is the corner back
room and Brie on Murray.

464
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,400
Ian and I'm Hannah cabin at the
York.

465
00:27:51,500 --> 00:27:54,700
I'm not shocked to see this
because I think you've been

466
00:27:54,700 --> 00:27:57,500
mentioning it over and over
again about situation right

467
00:27:57,500 --> 00:28:00,200
there, some things Armani's, the
better overall.

468
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:04,800
But there are some things that
Briana Marie does in certain

469
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,600
situations, where he does
benefit.

470
00:28:08,300 --> 00:28:12,200
So I think that's big.
I think it's also think it's

471
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,200
awesome to see the DJ Harvey is
holding down the two slot behind

472
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,700
Orion strong.
Yeah, that's big.

473
00:28:19,300 --> 00:28:22,000
I like Harvey.
I like that he's, you know, from

474
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,500
all accounts is going to be the
primary Nickelback when we go

475
00:28:24,500 --> 00:28:29,700
into that, that Personnel Group.
So it's going to be interesting

476
00:28:29,700 --> 00:28:32,900
to see what happens with the
Armani Chapman Breann.

477
00:28:32,900 --> 00:28:36,800
Marie combo there, you know, we
I've mentioned it before Murray

478
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:41,800
does pretty well.
When he can drive on a route, he

479
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,800
doesn't do great turning and
running, especially with kind of

480
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:50,400
the the Guys, that have that
combination of speed and and

481
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:56,300
strength and size.
You know, he's five-ten, he's

482
00:28:56,300 --> 00:28:59,700
190, he's not Armani Chapman.
He's got, who's got an inch on

483
00:28:59,700 --> 00:29:05,200
him and almost 20 pounds Armani?
Can, you know, fight with those

484
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:09,000
receivers at the line of
scrimmage a little bit more and

485
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,600
still make up some ground there.
So there's a little bit of

486
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,300
difference there between those
two and I think Murray's, lack

487
00:29:14,300 --> 00:29:17,000
of size.
He struggles against guys, We

488
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,600
saw in the spring game with
Caleb Smith, he struggles with

489
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:24,600
that type of player, a player
with good size, good strength,

490
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:29,000
and above average speed.
So there's probably going to be

491
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,800
situations where Murray's out
there for stretches and

492
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,400
depending on how he's matchup
and who he's matched up again,

493
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:37,800
that could be good or bad for
us.

494
00:29:38,300 --> 00:29:40,200
I like Chapman overall better
though.

495
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,300
Chapman is a more rounded
player.

496
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,700
There aren't the gaps when he
gets against certain

497
00:29:47,500 --> 00:29:53,600
Competition, there has been some
areas where, you know, the

498
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,400
mental gaps, have been there
where he hasn't been in the

499
00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:01,100
right place in terms of busted
coverages and things like that.

500
00:30:01,100 --> 00:30:04,100
But if he can clean that stuff
up, I think he's going to be all

501
00:30:04,100 --> 00:30:06,500
right there
abso-freakin'-lutely.

502
00:30:06,500 --> 00:30:11,600
So if you guys haven't checked
it out there, I'm always going

503
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,800
to push.
David Cunningham has it out

504
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:14,700
there.
I think you were a little

505
00:30:14,700 --> 00:30:16,600
article for Tech Sidelines
today.

506
00:30:16,700 --> 00:30:20,700
Day discussing with the depth
chart looks like take a look at

507
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it.
It's going to be interesting to

508
00:30:21,900 --> 00:30:27,200
see what the product as one of
our listeners here tonight.

509
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,300
Matt Jones has said can't wait
to see the own feel product.

510
00:30:30,300 --> 00:30:33,600
I think that's what we're all
waiting for now, this change in

511
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culture, that's changing some
philosophies, some upgrades at

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certain positions, and now that
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Now back to the episode All
right, Brian.

525
00:31:18,300 --> 00:31:21,700
So let's flip it here.
Let's get to know the enemy, the

526
00:31:21,700 --> 00:31:25,800
ODU monarchs and let's start on
the offensive side of the ball

527
00:31:25,900 --> 00:31:29,300
and let's talk about their
quarterback, Hayden wolf of 65,

528
00:31:29,300 --> 00:31:35,100
235 pounds came out in 2019 as a
three-star from Venice, Florida,

529
00:31:36,500 --> 00:31:41,200
and then, you know, last year,
had a solid season started ten

530
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:45,100
games, sixty-three percent,
completion percentage liver,

531
00:31:45,100 --> 00:31:49,700
1,900 yards, Words, little over
seven and a half per attempts,

532
00:31:49,900 --> 00:31:54,000
10 touchdown seven
interceptions, you got to look

533
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,000
at the tape.
What's the tape telling you

534
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,700
about this guy?
Yeah.

535
00:31:58,700 --> 00:32:01,700
I mean Hayden wolf is a pretty
good-looking quarterback.

536
00:32:01,700 --> 00:32:04,600
He does a good job of working
through his progressions.

537
00:32:05,700 --> 00:32:08,100
The routes.
He likes to throw the best.

538
00:32:08,100 --> 00:32:11,900
He throws a good seem good, fade
kind of those intermediate

539
00:32:11,900 --> 00:32:15,100
intermediate routes.
Just inside the hash just

540
00:32:15,100 --> 00:32:19,100
outside the hash.
He sometimes inaccurate with

541
00:32:19,100 --> 00:32:21,400
those intermediate routes,
especially over the middle.

542
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,900
And I'm not talking about the,
the, the Fades of the scenes but

543
00:32:24,900 --> 00:32:29,800
more of the, like, digs He's
crossers things of that nature,

544
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,400
he'll miss sometimes, at least
interceptions, sometimes that

545
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:38,100
least, overthrows, his eyes can
be affected by the rush like

546
00:32:38,100 --> 00:32:41,600
most quarterbacks but it's
especially true for a guy like

547
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,700
him because he is a true pocket
quarterback.

548
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,700
He is not a quarterback that's
going to move around a lot.

549
00:32:47,700 --> 00:32:50,800
He's not a quarterback that is
going to take off a lot.

550
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,100
He is a guy that's going to sit
in the pocket waiting for it to

551
00:32:54,100 --> 00:32:56,700
come open.
Go through his progressions and

552
00:32:56,700 --> 00:32:59,200
deliver it.
So, we can get pressure on him

553
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,300
early in the step down.
That's going to improve our odds

554
00:33:01,300 --> 00:33:03,200
of getting off the field.
Yeah.

555
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,500
And you mentioned about not a
true Russian quarterback.

556
00:33:05,500 --> 00:33:08,700
I mean, the data shows it.
He only attempted to run 14

557
00:33:08,700 --> 00:33:12,900
times in 10 games last year and
with when you accrued that with

558
00:33:12,900 --> 00:33:17,000
also the times he was sacked you
as negative 92 yards, rushing

559
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,800
the ball.
So obviously the threats, not

560
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,300
there at all but I know
something you've been

561
00:33:22,300 --> 00:33:24,600
mentioning, Brian.
Looking at this offense is

562
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:29,000
talking about the mess.
Shhhh, and what we should be

563
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:34,000
doing with that concerning.
Hayden wolf.

564
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,300
Yeah, I mean just he's a statue
back there he's not going to

565
00:33:37,308 --> 00:33:41,900
take off and run, there's no
reason to respect the mesh point

566
00:33:41,900 --> 00:33:44,300
for the quarterback run because
he's just not going to do it.

567
00:33:44,300 --> 00:33:47,900
It's not their attack.
The running back.

568
00:33:48,300 --> 00:33:50,900
Make sure your backer is
prepared because they do have

569
00:33:50,900 --> 00:33:54,800
some are BR p 0 type elements in
this offense but there's no

570
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,500
reason to respect the
quarterback taking off and

571
00:33:57,500 --> 00:34:01,300
trying to get a first down.
Alright, well let's flip it in.

572
00:34:01,308 --> 00:34:03,800
Let's talk about a couple of his
favorite weapons here tonight.

573
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,900
In the first one is a
legitimately a very large human

574
00:34:07,900 --> 00:34:13,100
being that cunts.
The tight end, six foot eight

575
00:34:13,100 --> 00:34:17,300
245 pounds when he came out in
2018.

576
00:34:17,300 --> 00:34:19,800
He was a four-star out of Camp
Hill PA.

577
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:24,000
He was a top 150 player, a
top-five tight end in the

578
00:34:24,007 --> 00:34:26,900
country.
He originally committed to Penn

579
00:34:26,900 --> 00:34:29,000
State.
So Brent Prime mentioned it

580
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,800
today.
Hey I was one of the guys are

581
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,900
recruited Zach.
Know a lot about what use a good

582
00:34:33,900 --> 00:34:39,400
thing in my opinion, he did
leave Penn State in 2021 through

583
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,600
the portal.
And Brawn, let's talk about this

584
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:48,699
guy like what he is and he's is
he their best player on the

585
00:34:48,699 --> 00:34:52,400
field in general?
Yeah.

586
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:57,200
I mean I would say he is their
biggest Target in that offense,

587
00:34:57,700 --> 00:35:01,300
okay.
In terms of volume he's going to

588
00:35:01,308 --> 00:35:03,300
be the guy that's going to get
the heaviest Targets in the

589
00:35:03,300 --> 00:35:05,500
passing game.
That doesn't mean he's going to

590
00:35:05,500 --> 00:35:08,200
rack up the most yards or
anything like that, but he is

591
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,200
the guy that is going to be
targeted, the most and the

592
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,400
offense, he's a big physical
tight and you already talked

593
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,700
about that.
He's got that NFL size and

594
00:35:15,700 --> 00:35:21,700
athleticism that you would see
in a top 150 power 5.

595
00:35:21,900 --> 00:35:28,000
Did tight in and he is their
primary Red Zone threat as well.

596
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:32,300
So when they get in the Red Zone
they will look for him to get in

597
00:35:32,300 --> 00:35:34,700
the end zone.
But he's definitely a guy that

598
00:35:34,700 --> 00:35:37,600
we've got to check constantly
because they will hit him up.

599
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:41,900
The seam, they will hit him
outside of the hashes

600
00:35:41,900 --> 00:35:43,700
occasionally.
So they'll line them up in

601
00:35:43,700 --> 00:35:47,600
different places, but he's still
that kind of prototypical style

602
00:35:48,700 --> 00:35:50,400
tight end that you'll see in the
NFL.

603
00:35:50,700 --> 00:35:53,000
Let me ask this for I get into
some of the stats from last

604
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,400
year.
What do you think we're going to

605
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:59,200
do coverage wise, is this going
to be a bracket type coverage or

606
00:35:59,500 --> 00:36:02,700
do you think, you know, one of
our safety's, our linebackers

607
00:36:02,700 --> 00:36:05,100
who are significantly athletic,
even though they're going to

608
00:36:05,100 --> 00:36:07,800
give up size or going to hang
with them, like what do you

609
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,900
think the plan is to counter
this guy?

610
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:16,300
I think they're going to put
their best coverage backers.

611
00:36:16,300 --> 00:36:19,500
Safety against him, fairly
significantly and hope that we

612
00:36:19,500 --> 00:36:22,700
can get enough pressure with the
Blitz and pressure with the

613
00:36:22,707 --> 00:36:27,300
Demons of wine to where he can't
cause us too much trouble.

614
00:36:29,100 --> 00:36:30,900
Don't necessarily think we're
going to bracket him.

615
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:38,000
Yeah I think at that point that
takes away some of what Mars and

616
00:36:38,500 --> 00:36:43,600
and prize defense is about.
I think they're hoping they can

617
00:36:43,900 --> 00:36:47,000
put enough pressure on Wolf to
where he can't deliver those

618
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:51,200
passes on time and in the right
location for Koontz to hurt us

619
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:52,400
too bad.
Yeah.

620
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:57,500
And for coons last year 73
reception 692 yards nine and a

621
00:36:57,508 --> 00:37:00,100
half percent.
Subsection with five touchdowns

622
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,100
and this really was his first
time playing a full season.

623
00:37:03,100 --> 00:37:06,200
He only played into a couple
games at Penn State and 18 and

624
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:11,200
19 did not play any 20 so you
know he's obviously coming off a

625
00:37:11,207 --> 00:37:14,600
good year he's obviously got
some physical attributes but

626
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:18,500
luckily it's one of those weird
things luckily you say somebody

627
00:37:18,500 --> 00:37:21,300
that knows him and that was in
the building with him for three

628
00:37:21,300 --> 00:37:24,400
years is now coaching on the
other side of the ball against

629
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,000
him.
So if there's anyone that

630
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,300
potentially knows what's gonna
be the best way to handle,

631
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,600
Ellen, I would put that trust in
print pry.

632
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:35,100
Alright?
So after cunts, probably their

633
00:37:35,100 --> 00:37:37,600
next biggest weapon, is Ali
Jennings.

634
00:37:37,900 --> 00:37:43,600
Wide receiver 6-foot 296 pounds,
a 3 star from Highland Springs.

635
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:47,100
High School that was never
offered by Virginia Tech when he

636
00:37:47,100 --> 00:37:49,000
came out.
I will go ahead and make that

637
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,400
note.
He did own hair out.

638
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:59,300
Yeah, he did originally commit
to West Virginia back. 2019.

639
00:38:00,700 --> 00:38:05,800
And he came to ODU from the
portal in 2021 where he kind of

640
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,200
had a breakout season and Brian.
I know you got to see some

641
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,400
really good things on his tape.
Yeah.

642
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,700
He's a very solid route, Runner.
He's got great quickness,

643
00:38:14,700 --> 00:38:18,800
especially in the intermediate
passing game, he does have a

644
00:38:18,808 --> 00:38:22,700
drop every now and then nothing
to really write home about, but

645
00:38:23,100 --> 00:38:26,700
they do happen, but he is good
with catches in traffic.

646
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,400
There's a lot of times where
he's Targeted over the middle up

647
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,800
the scene, where he can make
that tough tough catch.

648
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:37,100
Along the sideline, make a tough
catch, and he's really big run

649
00:38:37,100 --> 00:38:39,300
after the catch guys.
So when he, when he gets the

650
00:38:39,300 --> 00:38:42,100
ball in his hands he can do some
some pretty filthy things down

651
00:38:42,100 --> 00:38:47,300
the field, definitely an NFL
caliber type receiver in saying

652
00:38:47,300 --> 00:38:50,500
that we did not offer this kid
out of Highland Springs.

653
00:38:51,100 --> 00:38:55,400
What the fuck are we thinking?
But we just talked about the

654
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,800
only two players on their team
that I think could Potentially

655
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:06,200
be starters for us.
All right, good do I think when

656
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,300
you've been kind of explaining
him to me, see, in some of his

657
00:39:08,300 --> 00:39:11,100
dad is from last year, looking
at a little bit of me, looking

658
00:39:11,100 --> 00:39:15,600
at highlight film, not looking
at tape, like you I can't I

659
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:20,300
think we're going to see early
with this game is with the new

660
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,500
you know, with the new stuff on
defense.

661
00:39:24,300 --> 00:39:27,300
This is he's like a cocky guy if
you're telling me that we're

662
00:39:27,300 --> 00:39:29,200
tackling them at the spot, he
catches the ball.

663
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:34,600
He's not able to get that right?
Then some of this stuff is going

664
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:38,100
to be very interesting and Levar
Cooper.

665
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,500
You know, here from Facebook
saying that he thinks they're

666
00:39:41,500 --> 00:39:44,200
going to try to test our Corners
back going down field.

667
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:50,300
I think they might, but I also
think I don't think Brent prize

668
00:39:50,300 --> 00:39:51,600
going to let them do that at
all.

669
00:39:53,100 --> 00:39:55,100
I mean I think we're going to
see a lot of heavy blitzing.

670
00:39:55,100 --> 00:39:58,300
I think I said I think they're
going to put the pressure on

671
00:39:58,300 --> 00:40:02,100
Wolf to make a quick decision
early in the snap count and get

672
00:40:02,100 --> 00:40:05,900
the ball out of his hands.
I don't know if this offense is

673
00:40:05,900 --> 00:40:09,500
designed for that, they like the
Intermediate stuff.

674
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,200
Some of that takes a little time
to develop.

675
00:40:13,500 --> 00:40:15,600
We're going to have
opportunities to get sacks.

676
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,600
We got to get home.
We got to finish it and we got

677
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:22,800
to make sure that we're moving
will fall off his spot where

678
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:27,200
He's either throwing off balance
or he's having a throw on the

679
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,000
Run.
Because that's not his bread and

680
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,300
butter.
He likes to sit back there in

681
00:40:31,300 --> 00:40:33,500
the pocket and diagnose and
deliver.

682
00:40:34,300 --> 00:40:36,900
All right, so that's going to be
a key there and with Ali

683
00:40:36,900 --> 00:40:39,400
Jennings last year.
I mean, he went over 1,000 yards

684
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:44,800
and 13 game. 62 receptionist
1066 over 17 yards of reception.

685
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,300
I think right there.
You see, the yet the rack and

686
00:40:48,300 --> 00:40:50,400
the Yad with only five
touchdown.

687
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,100
So again, I want to see how are
tackling, especially on the

688
00:40:53,107 --> 00:40:55,600
perimeter will definitely.
He will definitely be a

689
00:40:55,600 --> 00:41:00,000
challenge to our cornerbacks and
Our safeties along with the

690
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:04,200
other parts of the defense, all
right, Braun before we get into

691
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,400
their best player.
Give me just high level overview

692
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,200
of what you see from this
offensive line.

693
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:17,000
Their average, they're very
average and I'd say they're

694
00:41:18,500 --> 00:41:21,900
they're decently balance, but
they are a little heavier on

695
00:41:21,900 --> 00:41:25,300
past Pro than on the Run.
They're not going to pull you

696
00:41:25,300 --> 00:41:27,000
away.
They do have a couple guys on

697
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:31,100
that line.
That do a pretty good job in the

698
00:41:31,100 --> 00:41:33,500
Run game.
One, we're about to talk about

699
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:38,600
here in a moment.
But They got behind the down and

700
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:42,700
distance a lot last year.
And a lot of the rushing yards,

701
00:41:42,700 --> 00:41:47,900
they got were in some garbage
time situations last year, okay?

702
00:41:47,900 --> 00:41:52,200
So it'll be interesting to see,
you know what that looks like

703
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,500
this year, if that offensive
line has improved at all.

704
00:41:55,500 --> 00:41:59,900
But decent.
But nothing to write home about.

705
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,900
Got it in obviously, I think,
you know, we've been talking

706
00:42:02,900 --> 00:42:05,600
about probably the best player
who's getting some

707
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,600
all-conference accolade.
Preseason and Nick salivary.

708
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:13,300
The right tackle, 663 16 years
originally a 2 Star back in.

709
00:42:13,300 --> 00:42:15,800
2018 from Monroe, North
Carolina.

710
00:42:16,300 --> 00:42:18,200
Obviously he's getting all the
conference honors.

711
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,000
Is he their best offensive
lineman yet?

712
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,000
Farther away their best
offensive lineman?

713
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,500
Definitely the most balanced
offensive lineman in terms of

714
00:42:25,500 --> 00:42:28,300
what he can do in pass Pro.
And what he does in the running

715
00:42:28,300 --> 00:42:33,700
game, I tell you probably their
best run Blocker on the team,

716
00:42:33,900 --> 00:42:36,600
which you don't always see from
a right tackle position.

717
00:42:36,700 --> 00:42:41,800
Ian and his past Pro is is as
good as anybody else on that

718
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,600
team as well.
So good balance, he's not an

719
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,900
elite player but there's really
no weak area of his game that we

720
00:42:47,900 --> 00:42:51,800
can really attack consistently.
No, I haven't seen much on this.

721
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,400
But are they projecting him to
stay at right side?

722
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:59,600
I don't know for sure, I did not
see a scouting report that

723
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,700
showed that so I don't know if
he's switching over to the left

724
00:43:02,700 --> 00:43:05,600
side.
Yeah, I'm all effort that real

725
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,700
quick while we take a look at
the next guy here.

726
00:43:07,700 --> 00:43:09,500
And this is the last piece of
the offense.

727
00:43:09,500 --> 00:43:12,400
We're going to look at here and
his name is Blake Watson.

728
00:43:12,500 --> 00:43:16,000
Laughs, if you from Halifax
County listening to this and

729
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,000
it's not a school, the guy named
League Watson lives in Roanoke.

730
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:25,900
Now Blake Watson 5-foot £995.
Originally recruited as a Wide

731
00:43:25,900 --> 00:43:29,900
receiver out of high school.
He was from Green.

732
00:43:29,900 --> 00:43:32,500
Hope down in Cary.
North Carolina was a two-star

733
00:43:32,500 --> 00:43:36,800
back in 2018.
And, you know, Brian, I see the

734
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,700
stat line.
And, I mean, I hope one of our

735
00:43:38,700 --> 00:43:43,700
guys can do this to this year.
I mean, 1112 yards over five of

736
00:43:43,707 --> 00:43:48,100
carry eight, touchdowns that
much of an receiving game.

737
00:43:48,100 --> 00:43:51,700
But I mean, still something.
What did, what did his tape show

738
00:43:51,700 --> 00:43:55,200
and why didn't he jump out to
you as much as the other two?

739
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:59,200
Offensive guys did.
So the big thing is that he's

740
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:05,100
not quite the game breaker that
the other two are, you know, we

741
00:44:05,100 --> 00:44:08,800
see a guy like Koontz.
He's really hard to match up

742
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,400
against.
He's the guy that can hurt you

743
00:44:11,408 --> 00:44:13,700
in the middle of the feel hurt
you in the red zone, you can see

744
00:44:13,700 --> 00:44:18,500
a guy like Ali Jennings that can
you take a quick route?

745
00:44:18,500 --> 00:44:22,700
Take it to the house, beat you,
that intermediate game, you

746
00:44:22,700 --> 00:44:25,200
know, Watson is kind of a bread
and butter he's used.

747
00:44:25,700 --> 00:44:30,200
It's a stick mover.
He's got pretty good Vision but

748
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,100
you know you don't really see
him breaking off.

749
00:44:33,100 --> 00:44:37,500
Huge runs consistently he does
have a burst when he gets to the

750
00:44:37,500 --> 00:44:40,600
second level though.
So you got to make sure that

751
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:44,500
we're at him at the point of
attack, get him down before he

752
00:44:44,500 --> 00:44:48,000
breaks past that second level.
So you got to wrap up and get

753
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:49,100
him to the ground.
He'll bite you.

754
00:44:49,100 --> 00:44:55,200
But he's got that kind of one
cut style when cutting go so we

755
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,200
definitely need to make sure
when we get our hands on and we

756
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:01,600
get him to the ground but he's
not the game breaker type

757
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,200
player.
But he is a guy that will get 15

758
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,200
to 20 carries a game and
probably go for about 100 yards

759
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,300
on those makes sense with the
stat lines and everything.

760
00:45:10,300 --> 00:45:15,000
So again it's that key and I
hope the stuff that's been

761
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,700
biting Us in the ass.
Last few years where we have

762
00:45:17,700 --> 00:45:19,800
running backs dead to rights for
that.

763
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:25,200
Three or four yard Moss begins
to matriculate into Keeping into

764
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,700
three to four large losses
versus letting them.

765
00:45:27,700 --> 00:45:30,000
Break the tackle getting back to
the line of scrimmage and in

766
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,900
some cases getting positive
yards because I think for me as

767
00:45:33,900 --> 00:45:38,600
a fan that is one of the most
frustrating things when, you

768
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:42,600
know, you can put a team in a
bad situation and you're just

769
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:46,200
letting it slip with piss-poor
fundamentals in the NFL

770
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:47,800
football.
Absolutely.

771
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:49,500
All right, Brian.
Let's just kind of take a

772
00:45:49,500 --> 00:45:51,400
high-level look now at the
offense.

773
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:53,800
Obviously, it's Ricky Ronnie's
offense.

774
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,100
The guy Georgia Tech came in,
yes.

775
00:45:56,100 --> 00:45:58,600
But they essentially, you can
say they're from the same type

776
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:02,600
tree.
Now, I think the offensive line

777
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,200
coach, you called, the Tulsa
game.

778
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,100
His name is slipping or you're
right now.

779
00:46:06,100 --> 00:46:10,000
I didn't document that is going
to be the play caller.

780
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,100
But you know what are we seeing
and what you expect to see

781
00:46:13,100 --> 00:46:17,800
Friday night from the Saudi you
offense, In terms of

782
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,700
play-calling it's going to be
interesting, right?

783
00:46:20,700 --> 00:46:22,500
Because you got to get a brand
new play.

784
00:46:22,500 --> 00:46:27,800
Caller brand new coordinator,
you know, three weeks before the

785
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:32,300
season starts ODU loses their
quarterbacks coach and offensive

786
00:46:32,300 --> 00:46:35,100
coordinator.
So for about a week looks like

787
00:46:35,100 --> 00:46:37,600
Ricky Ronnie was probably
pulling triple duty at practice.

788
00:46:37,700 --> 00:46:42,100
Oh yeah until they worked out
what that succession line was

789
00:46:42,100 --> 00:46:46,400
going to look like but I mean
this is that you know multiple

790
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:51,800
Smash Mouth spread RPO, if is
the emphasis that will go

791
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,800
multiple, but it's mostly going
to be Smash Mouth spread with

792
00:46:54,800 --> 00:47:00,300
RPO Concepts in there.
Like I've said with with the

793
00:47:00,300 --> 00:47:03,100
intermediate, that's their bread
and butter especially on early

794
00:47:03,100 --> 00:47:05,800
Downs.
When the defense isn't expecting

795
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:10,800
it, they leaned heavily on their
primary targets, Jennings Koontz

796
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:16,000
to get open early in the snap
wolf does do a good job of going

797
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,900
through his progressions but
usually when He does he's not

798
00:47:19,100 --> 00:47:21,800
that that's not going to be a
big yard yard get her that's

799
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,200
going to be something that helps
them.

800
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:28,000
Stay ahead of the sticks.
It's not something that we're

801
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,300
there.
He's going through second and

802
00:47:30,300 --> 00:47:33,200
third progressions and then
getting a 20 or 30 yard gain out

803
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:34,600
of it.
It's something where it's more

804
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,500
of a, he's good at all, right?
Where's my primary?

805
00:47:37,500 --> 00:47:39,100
Where's my secondary?
Where's my check down?

806
00:47:39,100 --> 00:47:44,300
He gets to a check down.
They get three or four yards and

807
00:47:44,300 --> 00:47:46,600
that if they're going to beat
you with those intermediate

808
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:48,700
plays, they're going to do it.
Early in the snap and they have

809
00:47:48,700 --> 00:47:50,900
to do that because of the the
limitations they have at

810
00:47:50,900 --> 00:47:53,200
quarterback in terms of
athleticism.

811
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,600
The other thing that in this is
going to be a theme when we get

812
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:01,500
to the defense as well,
penalties sacks drops, will kill

813
00:48:01,500 --> 00:48:05,200
effective drives for this
offense routinely especially

814
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:08,400
when they're against kind of
evenly matched or better

815
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:12,200
competition which in this case
would qualify as that.

816
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:17,800
So you know, look for them to
kind of shoot themselves in a It

817
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,300
in the foot often, when they
start getting some of those

818
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,900
effective drives that end up
being Drive Killers.

819
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:27,400
Absolutely in y'all are going to
see as we get into the Hokies

820
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,700
Keys.
Later about this penalties when

821
00:48:29,700 --> 00:48:32,500
I did the research.
It was like, Jesus Christ, what

822
00:48:32,500 --> 00:48:35,600
an undisciplined team.
But before we get there, there's

823
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,100
teaser.
We're going to look at the

824
00:48:37,107 --> 00:48:40,300
defensive side of the ball.
Yeah, I've gotten better

825
00:48:40,300 --> 00:48:43,400
teachers over the years but
let's talk about guy.

826
00:48:43,700 --> 00:48:47,300
The guy in the middle.
Ryan Henry, the linebacker.

827
00:48:47,500 --> 00:48:54,100
Juuko 62, 225, 2019 3 star.
He went to a sa Juco.

828
00:48:54,100 --> 00:48:57,500
He was originally from Miami
South Ridge and he actually was

829
00:48:57,500 --> 00:49:02,100
originally a safety product.
What do you see from Ryan Henry

830
00:49:02,100 --> 00:49:06,700
on the tape run?
He's kind of above average with

831
00:49:06,700 --> 00:49:09,800
his coverage skills, but he's
not his great against the run.

832
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,700
But the big thing that helps him
out is that he is a shirt, a

833
00:49:13,700 --> 00:49:17,700
killer but they don't really use
him very much as a Blitzer or a

834
00:49:17,700 --> 00:49:19,800
pass rusher.
He's primarily the guy that's

835
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:24,000
going to be back in coverage,
coming up when there's a run

836
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,900
making a play there, he's not
someone that they send and get a

837
00:49:27,908 --> 00:49:31,300
lot of tackles for loss sacks,
things of that nature.

838
00:49:31,500 --> 00:49:36,000
He's not that type of disrupter.
So is essentially truly is

839
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,300
playing like a they are treating
him as a safety at linebacker

840
00:49:39,300 --> 00:49:43,400
then versus converting to
linebacker where he obviously

841
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,500
has a bill to have the traits
but maybe hasn't picked up that

842
00:49:46,500 --> 00:49:50,500
middle portion of the game.
Dad maybe, I mean some of it is

843
00:49:50,500 --> 00:49:54,200
scheme as well.
The way that deploy him is

844
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,700
definitely more on the, the
coverage Style.

845
00:49:59,300 --> 00:50:03,000
That's just what he does better
and I think they kind of leaned

846
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,200
on that.
Got it, got it.

847
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:07,500
All right.
Well, let's look at one of the

848
00:50:07,500 --> 00:50:11,200
guys on the back end here and
that's arterian Johnson.

849
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:16,900
The five 1196 pound safety.
Also, another Juco, he was from

850
00:50:17,100 --> 00:50:20,000
Gulf Coast Community College,
regionally grew up in Wiggins

851
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:26,400
Mississippi, what do you think?
Arterian in my opinion he's the

852
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:30,900
best player on their defense and
it's probably not that close.

853
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,300
The argument could be made for
the next guy.

854
00:50:33,300 --> 00:50:36,900
We're going to talk about but
Hot to me artery in Johnson's

855
00:50:36,900 --> 00:50:40,600
the best player on that defense.
He cleans up a lot of their

856
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,500
inconsistencies both in the
passing game and the rushing

857
00:50:43,500 --> 00:50:49,500
game just with his play, very
good tackler above average and

858
00:50:49,500 --> 00:50:51,800
coverage.
He's the guy that's getting

859
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:55,000
everybody where they need to be
in that secondary.

860
00:50:56,700 --> 00:51:00,400
And again, cerebral, he's
definitely The Head and

861
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,700
Shoulders Above the Rest of the
secondary, in my opinion.

862
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,500
Yeah, and his stat lines.
Um last year look, you know

863
00:51:06,500 --> 00:51:08,300
really good.
I'm assuming he's probably more

864
00:51:08,300 --> 00:51:12,400
of a safety in the Box.
I mean 92 combined tackles he

865
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:16,100
had three and a half tackles for
loss, he had two picks Six

866
00:51:16,100 --> 00:51:19,200
Paths, deflections so, where did
you see him lined up?

867
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,400
As he playing more of a free
coming down or she playing more

868
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:26,500
you know that strong Rover type
position little more of the

869
00:51:26,500 --> 00:51:29,100
Rover.
He's definitely playing in the

870
00:51:29,100 --> 00:51:35,200
Box a little bit more and he's a
guy that again would On the

871
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:38,300
running back, come up and making
plays in the running game.

872
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:44,600
So like I said, overall I think
he's the guy that you want to

873
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,600
make sure your accounting for as
an offense.

874
00:51:50,100 --> 00:51:53,700
All right, let's take, let's
stay on the back and go outside

875
00:51:53,700 --> 00:51:55,300
a little bit more.
Let's take a look at Trey

876
00:51:55,300 --> 00:51:57,700
Hawkins.
The third cornerback

877
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:02,000
six-foot-three. 195 pounds of
Texas product down in Temple,

878
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:05,500
Texas.
Actually, another Juco attended

879
00:52:05,500 --> 00:52:08,600
Trinity Valley, think of you.
Here we go, is very familiar

880
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:13,200
with that and, you know, a guy
who played last year, seventy

881
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:16,700
seven, tackles five tackles for
loss, six pass deflections in a

882
00:52:16,707 --> 00:52:19,700
forced fumble soil, you know, a
really good staff.

883
00:52:19,900 --> 00:52:24,600
One last year and obviously that
body type, you know, is is he

884
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,700
playing outside, or is he
playing a little more hybrid

885
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:31,700
position for ODU?
Now he's playing outside.

886
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:33,300
Okay.
Yeah.

887
00:52:33,300 --> 00:52:37,800
And watching the tape, he was a
lot better covering the the

888
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,400
quick and intermediate stuff
than he was some of the deep

889
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:46,300
stuff he when he drives on a
route that's when he's at his

890
00:52:46,300 --> 00:52:51,100
best.
When he's having to turn and

891
00:52:51,100 --> 00:52:54,000
run, that's when you can
potentially get some stuff

892
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:58,900
behind him, he can get fooled
with a double move and be deep

893
00:53:00,100 --> 00:53:02,300
because again, he likes to drive
on routes.

894
00:53:02,300 --> 00:53:06,200
He's gonna he's gonna bite on
those double moves from time to

895
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:10,100
time and get beat deep.
He has good quickness.

896
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,000
But only above average, top-end
speed.

897
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:17,300
He's not not an elite Speedster.
So, he really relies on that

898
00:53:17,300 --> 00:53:19,500
quickness.
In that ability to drive on a

899
00:53:19,508 --> 00:53:21,800
routes to really impact his
play.

900
00:53:22,900 --> 00:53:26,200
Did they have any video of him
playing like a press coverage?

901
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,300
Or was he always playing all
four?

902
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:31,500
He would it would mix it up.
Okay.

903
00:53:31,500 --> 00:53:36,400
And he was decent impressed, but
again it's kind of that that

904
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,200
second phase that that he wasn't
as great at.

905
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:44,200
I always ask at because I see
you know, him being potentially

906
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:48,100
their best cornerback is who he
gets matched up against right?

907
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:52,600
And, you know, you think about
somebody like Dwayne or Jaden

908
00:53:53,100 --> 00:53:56,400
probably little bit quicker, but
when I think of someone like

909
00:53:56,400 --> 00:54:00,300
Caleb Smith Caleb will more
strong.

910
00:54:00,300 --> 00:54:02,800
Caleb does have a little
quickness, but he's one of those

911
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:04,900
guys.
A lot of players would not want

912
00:54:04,900 --> 00:54:08,600
to make a pretzel because Caleb
has that strength to essentially

913
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:12,000
shed the press and Caleb's got
enough speed to Get by you and

914
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,700
get down the field quickly.
So be very interesting to see

915
00:54:14,700 --> 00:54:18,800
how and if they match up.
All right, let's flip it back

916
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:24,400
down to the defensive line.
I know you had some Choice words

917
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,500
about the defensive line in
general about, you know, it

918
00:54:27,500 --> 00:54:30,600
essentially.
Kind of rough to look at.

919
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:34,000
But let's talk about that and
then Marques Haynes.

920
00:54:34,900 --> 00:54:38,100
One of the defensive ends at six
foot four, 240 from Bowie.

921
00:54:38,100 --> 00:54:41,900
Maryland, originally a two-star
went to Fork.

922
00:54:41,900 --> 00:54:47,600
Union back in 2017 is when he
came out, what does hangs look

923
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:48,400
like on?
Take.

924
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:51,600
Yeah, he's definitely their most
balanced player.

925
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:53,600
They usually, he's on an
opposite.

926
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:55,900
The they'll use a stand-up in
kind of like bar.

927
00:54:55,900 --> 00:54:59,400
No.
Did last year and one side On

928
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,300
the opposite.
He's got his hand in the dirt.

929
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:06,600
He's more of a true you know
defensive end from a technique

930
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:09,400
standpoint.
He's above average against the

931
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,300
Run, he's a decent pass rusher.
Nothing to really write home

932
00:55:12,300 --> 00:55:18,300
about on that front but it's
not, you know, a weakness, he'll

933
00:55:18,300 --> 00:55:22,800
occasionally flash, a big Drive,
killing play with with some of

934
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,900
his penetration especially in
the Run game.

935
00:55:27,100 --> 00:55:30,400
But it's more consistent of a
player in terms of his steady

936
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,400
production and he is kind of a
standout player that's making a

937
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:38,200
ton of those game.
Got it in last year.

938
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:41,300
He killed her was their leader
in Saxon five and a half.

939
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,000
So not a big number.
The team itself didn't have a

940
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,700
lot of sacks didn't have a lot
of turnovers.

941
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,000
So Brian, you've kind of already
mentioned it.

942
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:53,500
They have a stand-up in what
sort of Defense are they in?

943
00:55:53,500 --> 00:55:56,200
And what are some of the things
that we should see from them on

944
00:55:56,200 --> 00:56:00,600
Friday night?
Yeah, it's kind of similar to

945
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:02,100
what we saw last year for the
Hokies.

946
00:56:02,100 --> 00:56:04,500
It's a 425, they got to stand up
in.

947
00:56:05,300 --> 00:56:08,200
They mix in a significant amount
of Zone with some man main

948
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:13,200
Concepts.
They don't Blitz a ton, they

949
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:16,500
will get aggressive on kind of
third and medium and third and

950
00:56:16,500 --> 00:56:20,700
long but then it's usually in
situations, it's not something

951
00:56:20,700 --> 00:56:22,900
where there you would call them
an aggressive defense.

952
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:27,300
But they do have good Pursuit
both in the Run game and

953
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:31,000
Intermediate passing game
getting to those guys making

954
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:34,600
plays after the catch.
They don't really get enough

955
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:36,100
pass rush.
I know I've already talked about

956
00:56:36,100 --> 00:56:39,400
that for some of the double
moves or slow developing routes,

957
00:56:39,900 --> 00:56:43,500
so that can be risky, when
opposing offenses, are good with

958
00:56:43,500 --> 00:56:47,900
those type of Concepts.
They are super undisciplined and

959
00:56:47,900 --> 00:56:52,500
prone to hurting themselves with
penalties and miscues, this is a

960
00:56:52,500 --> 00:56:56,500
very undisciplined defense.
They will give you first downs.

961
00:56:56,500 --> 00:56:59,500
They will give you first down.
Towns for stupid stuff.

962
00:56:59,500 --> 00:57:01,800
They will give you first downs
for procedural, stuff.

963
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:07,400
They will give you first downs.
Because for whatever reason,

964
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:11,200
even in man coverage, a
cornerback will run with a tight

965
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:15,000
end, running a wheel instead of
sticking with the Z receiver,

966
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:19,100
like it's it shit like that.
Constantly, they shoot

967
00:57:19,100 --> 00:57:23,000
themselves in the foot that
results in some big plays, and

968
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:26,800
you end up in a situation where
You know, you're playing for

969
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,600
behind a lot and they were
playing from behind a lot last

970
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:33,900
season, especially in the first
what, six to seven games of that

971
00:57:33,900 --> 00:57:35,700
year.
Very true.

972
00:57:35,900 --> 00:57:39,000
Now going through some of this
tape that any of the Marshall

973
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:44,500
tape come up on the defense, I
did not watch Marshall.

974
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:48,800
Okay, I had to ask, I know
you're having to pick and find

975
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,700
pieces of tape here and there
and some tapes not readily

976
00:57:51,700 --> 00:57:55,400
available to us.
So we move on and what will move

977
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,900
on to next?
Y'all is going to be the Hokies

978
00:57:57,900 --> 00:58:02,500
keys and what are the keys to
this game and we want to see

979
00:58:02,500 --> 00:58:06,000
though keys with a Big W what's
got to happen and I'm going to

980
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,200
start here, Brian with
turnovers.

981
00:58:08,300 --> 00:58:12,900
And when I look back last year
with ODU, In their wins and

982
00:58:12,908 --> 00:58:18,700
their six wins in 2021, their
turnover margin was plus two.

983
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:23,400
So any kind of went like this
and their wins.

984
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:27,100
So basically in two of the six
wins, they won the margin in

985
00:58:27,100 --> 00:58:31,500
one, they lost the margin.
Three were even and against

986
00:58:31,500 --> 00:58:35,600
these six reinstate only had one
team that was 500 or better than

987
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:37,300
that was Middle Tennessee,
State.

988
00:58:37,900 --> 00:58:41,400
And that game is one of the ones
they won the margin on and they

989
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:46,700
still only won that game by a
touchdown. 24:17.

990
00:58:47,100 --> 00:58:53,000
Okay, so even on their wins,
sloppiness is obvious on the

991
00:58:53,000 --> 00:59:00,200
offensive side of the ball.
You know, they beat a Hampton

992
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:02,900
team, they beat a couple three
winning teams and that fight.

993
00:59:03,100 --> 00:59:07,300
If I use a one win team last
year, so they got six wins last

994
00:59:07,300 --> 00:59:09,400
year, but they were not even
close to Pretty Wings.

995
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:14,300
Now, when you talk about their
seven losses, they were negative

996
00:59:14,300 --> 00:59:19,400
10 in turnover margin.
Which is just shitty because

997
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:22,500
that's almost you're given the
other team, the ball one and a

998
00:59:22,508 --> 00:59:25,600
half times a game that show up
on the tape.

999
00:59:26,700 --> 00:59:30,300
Yeah a lot of it showed up on
the tape particularly when they

1000
00:59:30,300 --> 00:59:32,900
were playing Western Kentucky,
who got off to a pretty awful

1001
00:59:32,900 --> 00:59:36,700
start themselves last year in
that game?

1002
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:44,900
The first half was a comedy of
errors for that offense, against

1003
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:48,400
Western Kentucky, which did not
Have a very good defense.

1004
00:59:50,100 --> 00:59:52,700
There was a turnover.
There was a bulb on the ground.

1005
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:56,100
There were just a lot of miscues
across the board.

1006
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:00,600
And that resulted in them
playing from behind

1007
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:02,400
significantly heading into
halftime.

1008
01:00:03,300 --> 01:00:06,600
You know, they came out with a
better plan but there was still

1009
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:11,300
another turnover in the second
half and they lost that margin.

1010
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:16,300
I think it was three to three to
one in favor Western Kentucky

1011
01:00:16,300 --> 01:00:20,800
and that game.
Yeah, so overall it's one of the

1012
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:23,400
big Keys If Hokies win the
turnover battle.

1013
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,400
This game's not even going to be
closer than what we're

1014
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,100
predicting if it's insane.
Like it was when they had those

1015
01:00:30,100 --> 01:00:35,800
32 ones or 32 nothing's last
year really, really ugly game.

1016
01:00:36,300 --> 01:00:39,000
Alright, another thing you've
mentioned it in both sides of

1017
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:43,000
the ball earlier.
It's about being undisciplined

1018
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:45,100
about making miscues and its
penalties.

1019
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:49,600
Last year out of 131 teams, they
were eight hundred and second in

1020
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:53,100
penalty yards last year.
That is bad.

1021
01:00:53,700 --> 01:00:57,500
They were a team when they were
at home, where most teams do not

1022
01:00:57,500 --> 01:01:01,300
have a higher penalty because
you're playing at home.

1023
01:01:01,300 --> 01:01:04,800
Usually get phone calls, usually
build more in a control.

1024
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:09,200
They averaged almost eight a
game at home last year and then

1025
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:16,300
their losses 78 yards of
penalties in the average for

1026
01:01:16,300 --> 01:01:21,400
each of their seven losses.
And even in the games they won,

1027
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:24,000
they still are averaging 60
yards.

1028
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:28,000
If this team steps on the field
Friday and you tell me they're

1029
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:30,600
going to give eight penalties
for 80 yards.

1030
01:01:32,300 --> 01:01:34,200
Regardless of what side of the
ball is all.

1031
01:01:34,300 --> 01:01:36,200
If you say, you split it right
down the middle, you're going to

1032
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:38,300
give us an extra 40 yards on
offense.

1033
01:01:39,100 --> 01:01:41,400
That's at least an extra two
scores in my opinion.

1034
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,200
And if you do it, 40 yards on
defense.

1035
01:01:43,900 --> 01:01:46,200
There's going to be a turnover
in there somewhere because

1036
01:01:46,300 --> 01:01:48,100
you're going to get dialed up
with a ton of pressure.

1037
01:01:50,700 --> 01:01:52,900
Yeah, I think you're right there
and I think that's, that's the

1038
01:01:52,900 --> 01:01:55,200
problem that they had last year.
We'll see.

1039
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:58,800
If that any of that has been
cleaned up heading into this

1040
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:01,600
season.
You know, they have the same

1041
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:03,900
coordinator on defense.
I don't know if that necessarily

1042
01:02:03,900 --> 01:02:05,800
is speaking to their own
discipline, this or anything

1043
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:10,200
like that, but we'll see if that
is something that has been

1044
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:14,700
remedied since that point, but
they were as, as undisciplined

1045
01:02:14,700 --> 01:02:18,200
is any team, you will see last
year, especially on the

1046
01:02:18,207 --> 01:02:21,800
defensive side of the ball.
And I think those first two

1047
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:24,000
things.
The first thing is obviously

1048
01:02:24,100 --> 01:02:27,800
something the Hokies defense is
looking at the penalties are

1049
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:29,300
kind of all over the place,
right?

1050
01:02:29,300 --> 01:02:32,600
Offensive and defensive side, he
can affect both parts of the

1051
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:37,700
game, but when you see things
like that, my immediate thought

1052
01:02:37,700 --> 01:02:40,500
is even if you're keeping the
same player, or the same

1053
01:02:40,500 --> 01:02:42,200
coordinators to have the same
players.

1054
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:48,200
Normally, you do not see drastic
turnarounds in turnovers and, or

1055
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:51,800
penalties from one, you That
usually those are the very

1056
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:57,900
gradual you go from the turnover
margin being - 82.

1057
01:02:58,500 --> 01:03:02,700
Okay now we're - 3 now.
We're even now we're in the plus

1058
01:03:02,700 --> 01:03:06,700
territory, same with penalties.
You don't go from the just about

1059
01:03:06,700 --> 01:03:09,000
the bottom.
Two above middle of the pack in

1060
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:11,900
one season because a lot of
times the players you have or

1061
01:03:11,908 --> 01:03:14,400
the who you're returning and
it's a cultural thing.

1062
01:03:14,900 --> 01:03:19,200
So, those two I cannot see in
the last thing we've talked

1063
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:23,100
about with the Hokies, Skis.
Is there passing defense?

1064
01:03:23,700 --> 01:03:26,700
And I know you said to of their
better players are on the back

1065
01:03:26,700 --> 01:03:28,800
end, but you've mentioned all
night.

1066
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:33,200
You mentioned it up top, they
don't have the pass rush.

1067
01:03:33,500 --> 01:03:35,800
You can get double moves behind
them even though they have a

1068
01:03:35,808 --> 01:03:40,300
couple good players there
because of no pass rush, they

1069
01:03:40,300 --> 01:03:42,900
can't get that done.
And last year it showed, you

1070
01:03:42,900 --> 01:03:46,400
know, they gave up 264 yards a
game through the air.

1071
01:03:47,100 --> 01:03:52,300
You know, they basically only
forced Seven interceptions in 13

1072
01:03:52,300 --> 01:03:56,200
games in, if you look at the Sun
Belt last year, right?

1073
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:58,600
No Conference USA Labour
Conference USA, less relevant,

1074
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:00,700
USA Sunbelt this year.
Yep.

1075
01:04:01,500 --> 01:04:04,900
How many of those offensive run
some sort of high-level passing

1076
01:04:04,900 --> 01:04:09,400
game in to say you guys seven?
Yes I mean it takes in one of

1077
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:12,400
the most as oriented leagues in
a country.

1078
01:04:12,900 --> 01:04:16,800
I mean Western Kentucky will
only run just because you know

1079
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:18,800
just really want to do something
different.

1080
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:23,700
I think they had like 12 total
rushes in the game I watch.

1081
01:04:23,700 --> 01:04:28,200
So I mean they don't run but
they it's a lot of quick release

1082
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:33,900
stuff and you know, constantly
again shooting themselves in the

1083
01:04:33,900 --> 01:04:36,400
foot.
They don't do a good job getting

1084
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:41,400
after the quarterback.
And while they have one or two

1085
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:47,400
guys that are really good in
coverage the area's elsewhere,

1086
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:49,900
they struggle.
So it's kind of a mixed bag.

1087
01:04:50,100 --> 01:04:53,900
Secondary, you got some really
good players, some really high

1088
01:04:53,900 --> 01:04:55,900
level players.
And then the couple guys that

1089
01:04:55,900 --> 01:04:59,200
are not very high level, you mix
that with no pass rush.

1090
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:02,400
That's a recipe for disaster.
And when I say, no passwords,

1091
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:07,300
folks, 23, and a half sacks for
13 games last year, that's less

1092
01:05:07,300 --> 01:05:13,000
than two again.
So on top of that, very little

1093
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,300
picks, its why?
I looked at saying their past

1094
01:05:15,300 --> 01:05:17,500
defense is a key, why is it a
key?

1095
01:05:17,500 --> 01:05:20,800
We have a guy like Grant Wells,
who did play them, who did not

1096
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:24,300
play his best game against them
but after that game against

1097
01:05:24,300 --> 01:05:27,500
them, he cleaned up the rest of
the seasons and did not have any

1098
01:05:27,500 --> 01:05:29,600
more than two picks in any other
game.

1099
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:34,200
So, you know, I we calculate all
this.

1100
01:05:34,300 --> 01:05:39,300
We start looking at the Players,
we look at our players coaches

1101
01:05:39,300 --> 01:05:40,200
and stuff.
Like that.

1102
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:44,400
And you know, lo and behold it's
time to predict this game, Ron

1103
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:51,200
Yeah, and I'll lead off here,
you know, I think this is a

1104
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:56,300
statement game for the Brent pry
era and I think that the Hokies

1105
01:05:56,300 --> 01:06:02,800
are focused, they are ready to
prove some doubters wrong and I

1106
01:06:02,808 --> 01:06:05,400
think they come out there and
they handle business in Norfolk.

1107
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:13,900
I've got the Hokies winning 41
to 17 All right, I am exactly

1108
01:06:13,900 --> 01:06:17,500
with you, actually, when we,
when we, when we talked about

1109
01:06:17,500 --> 01:06:20,300
this yesterday, we were like
Promised Land.

1110
01:06:20,300 --> 01:06:22,000
Like, what's yours?
What's your score, Brian?

1111
01:06:22,300 --> 01:06:24,700
He's like, 4170.
I'm like, son of a bitch.

1112
01:06:25,300 --> 01:06:27,800
He looked at him, like, he's
like what?

1113
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:29,500
I'm like.
See exactly where I am.

1114
01:06:29,500 --> 01:06:34,100
I'm in 4117 vt4, a lot of the
reasons and I think a lot of

1115
01:06:34,100 --> 01:06:36,400
those reasons, are you say
statement game?

1116
01:06:37,100 --> 01:06:39,800
And when you started talking
about Hayden wolf in those

1117
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:42,700
players, they've Two good
players that don't get me wrong.

1118
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:45,600
If they get the ball to them,
they're going to make a little

1119
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:48,600
noise.
But know, when a guy's is Statue

1120
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:51,700
Norwood, Brent prize going to
do, he's going to have to get

1121
01:06:51,700 --> 01:06:56,900
that ball released quicker than
he ever has in his in his tenure

1122
01:06:56,900 --> 01:07:00,300
as quarterback of.
I think that's a big piece and

1123
01:07:00,300 --> 01:07:04,700
also think the upside of having
the Grant Wells with us this

1124
01:07:04,700 --> 01:07:08,700
year, I guarantee you Tyler.
Bowling walked in that room.

1125
01:07:09,100 --> 01:07:13,100
Prep can just said Let's look at
it because they're really not

1126
01:07:13,100 --> 01:07:16,700
changing a lot about this game.
We've got some more weapons.

1127
01:07:16,700 --> 01:07:18,800
We got a better offensive line
here.

1128
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:21,500
Wish, we had Malachi Thomas
because I think we would really

1129
01:07:21,500 --> 01:07:24,400
run it down their throat but I
think the defense is going to

1130
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:27,900
dictate this game a lot and I
think the defense is going to be

1131
01:07:27,900 --> 01:07:31,100
so dating it that we're going to
take some risks and I think

1132
01:07:31,100 --> 01:07:35,000
we're going to hit on a few
risks early and I think as your

1133
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:37,400
hope hanging out over here in
the man cave Friday night, I

1134
01:07:37,408 --> 01:07:40,300
think for supporter take a
couple shots.

1135
01:07:42,100 --> 01:07:48,300
And wrap the game up at 4117.
Yeah, I mean, you talked about

1136
01:07:48,300 --> 01:07:52,400
what wells did against this
defense last year when he was

1137
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:55,900
playing with Marshall, wasn't
his best game in terms of his

1138
01:07:55,900 --> 01:07:58,900
interceptions but he had an
efficient night.

1139
01:07:59,100 --> 01:08:01,300
Yeah.
In terms of yardage and

1140
01:08:01,300 --> 01:08:04,500
completion percentage, he was
Thirty or forty six for 299.

1141
01:08:04,900 --> 01:08:06,800
He had two touchdowns, he threw
two picks.

1142
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:10,000
You'd like to see at least one
of those taken off the board

1143
01:08:10,100 --> 01:08:11,700
with 46 attempts.
Right?

1144
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:17,700
So, but, you know, one
interception in 4406 of Not bad

1145
01:08:17,700 --> 01:08:21,200
to, you know, especially
sometimes when they happen, not

1146
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:23,300
necessarily.
If they happen, it's kind of you

1147
01:08:23,300 --> 01:08:26,399
know, what kind of Shades one
game, you know, One Direction or

1148
01:08:26,399 --> 01:08:30,100
another, but he's sweaty slung,
the ball all over the field,

1149
01:08:30,300 --> 01:08:34,700
just they couldn't finish a lot
of drives last year, and that

1150
01:08:34,700 --> 01:08:39,200
was the big, the big difference
in that game being Marshal kind

1151
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:42,000
of walking away with it and
having to get a touchdown and

1152
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:44,600
over time to seal it.
Exactly.

1153
01:08:44,899 --> 01:08:50,500
So again, we both predict a Tech
wins, 4117, take take lady,

1154
01:08:50,500 --> 01:08:54,800
eight and a half because I think
with also with the turmoil,

1155
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:58,100
going down there with the brand
new offensive coordinator and

1156
01:08:58,100 --> 01:09:02,899
you know obviously Ricky Ronnie
knows Brent, prize defense and

1157
01:09:02,899 --> 01:09:06,800
is bad as we want to say we're
down we're not deep.

1158
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:10,800
There are some talented players
on that defense that will I

1159
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:14,500
think keep them under control.
All right, Brian.

1160
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:17,899
So let's go one more segment
here before you wrap up tonight

1161
01:09:17,899 --> 01:09:19,200
and is what we are going to
call.

1162
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:22,899
Big screeners.
As it's been discussed on this

1163
01:09:22,899 --> 01:09:27,100
program before I have a man cave
set-up with three TVs.

1164
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:33,300
If you have three TVs or less,
if you have less than three TVs,

1165
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:36,500
you're not doing it right in a
man cave because there's no way

1166
01:09:36,500 --> 01:09:39,600
you can actually pay attention.
There's no way you can have fun

1167
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:43,700
on college football, Saturdays.
Now, mr.

1168
01:09:43,700 --> 01:09:46,300
C glistens.
These purchases told and he is

1169
01:09:46,300 --> 01:09:50,000
currently sitting in his man
cave as I am sitting in mind.

1170
01:09:50,300 --> 01:09:55,200
He also As a three TV set up now
for Brian because Brian's a

1171
01:09:55,208 --> 01:09:59,200
little more texted me.
He has a couple of big screens

1172
01:09:59,300 --> 01:10:02,500
and then he streams one off of
his big monitors right there.

1173
01:10:03,300 --> 01:10:08,200
So we're calling a big screeners
because at some point, the games

1174
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:12,100
we discuss, right here, non-tech
games are sort of a big screen

1175
01:10:12,100 --> 01:10:14,700
games that are going to be on
the big screens.

1176
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:16,900
And Brian, I know you want me to
lead.

1177
01:10:16,900 --> 01:10:20,900
This actually tell everybody
what your setup is.

1178
01:10:21,100 --> 01:10:25,400
Just so they know.
All right, so right here, I've

1179
01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:31,000
got a sixty five incher.
Yeah, TCL is getting the Roku

1180
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:36,300
and it I've got another 40 inch
Roku above me here, that can

1181
01:10:36,300 --> 01:10:40,200
rotate from either straight
above me or to a little caddy

1182
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:42,500
position.
Next to the big, big one here

1183
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:48,900
and then I've got a 32-inch,
ultrawide monitor that I am

1184
01:10:48,900 --> 01:10:51,100
currently looking at you guys
on.

1185
01:10:51,100 --> 01:10:56,400
So, And and battle.
That's my third screen, Curtis.

1186
01:10:56,400 --> 01:11:00,300
Let them know what you got.
Well, I'm sitting here with a 60

1187
01:11:00,300 --> 01:11:04,500
inch and then 232 is above.
And I am going to say this

1188
01:11:04,700 --> 01:11:08,100
Brian's little swivel monitor.
I know, I inspired that because

1189
01:11:08,100 --> 01:11:11,300
both of the 32 inches in the man
cave, our own swivels.

1190
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:16,700
So if I'm ever eating at the, at
the bar table back here and I

1191
01:11:16,708 --> 01:11:18,100
want to pay attention to that
game.

1192
01:11:18,100 --> 01:11:21,800
I just slightly swivel, it over
here or during the season.

1193
01:11:22,500 --> 01:11:25,600
And when we get that Maxon in
those Sunbelt games on Tuesday

1194
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:29,600
nights that TV right there will
be swiveled right here directly.

1195
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:34,800
So I do not miss Now when it
comes to the big screeners,

1196
01:11:34,900 --> 01:11:36,700
what's the game that I'm looking
at?

1197
01:11:36,700 --> 01:11:39,300
In kind of looking at this?
From a betting line, we used to

1198
01:11:39,300 --> 01:11:42,400
do picks last year when you're
only doing one episode a week,

1199
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:45,000
you got to cut time because next
week, at this time, we're

1200
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:48,000
recapping ODU and then prepping
from BC.

1201
01:11:48,500 --> 01:11:50,800
So, what my big screen or game
this year?

1202
01:11:50,900 --> 01:11:54,000
Or this week is, I'm looking at
the Georgia.

1203
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:57,200
Oregon game down in Atlanta,
Chick-fil-A kickoff, 3:30,

1204
01:11:57,200 --> 01:12:00,800
Saturday afternoon.
And George is coming off a

1205
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:05,100
massive National Championship
with, you know, it really was

1206
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:08,800
with, you know, unbelievable
sort of turn back.

1207
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:13,300
The clock clock style defense,
which a shit ton of those guys

1208
01:12:13,300 --> 01:12:17,400
went to the NFL and I know it's
more than any team ever more

1209
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:25,000
than any team.
In some of those guys played

1210
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:27,900
last year.
But I also know on the offensive

1211
01:12:27,900 --> 01:12:32,200
side of the ball Stetson Bennett
isn't exactly a fighter pilot

1212
01:12:32,300 --> 01:12:35,000
quarterback.
He is a bus driver in last year

1213
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:37,600
with guys like George Pickens
and James Cook.

1214
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:42,700
It was easier for the bus driver
to look like a home.

1215
01:12:42,700 --> 01:12:45,200
Run to look like a fighter
power, to be honest.

1216
01:12:45,900 --> 01:12:49,400
When I look at this game, organ
has a good offensive line, Dan

1217
01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:52,900
Landing, you Georgia defensive
coordinators back out, his went

1218
01:12:52,900 --> 01:12:54,800
out there to be a coach.
They have a good number of

1219
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:58,200
returning starters.
It, when I originally saw this

1220
01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:01,200
game, I'm like, my expectation
is, I think Georgia probably is

1221
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:03,500
going to win the game, probably
by somewhere between eight and

1222
01:13:03,500 --> 01:13:07,900
ten points when this line came
open at 17 and a half.

1223
01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:14,500
I just could, I'm trying to
figure out, is, is Vegas?

1224
01:13:14,500 --> 01:13:16,700
Looking at how many people left?
Yes, I know they're playing in

1225
01:13:16,700 --> 01:13:21,500
Atlanta and it's going to be a
T20 Georgia fans, but 17 and a

1226
01:13:21,508 --> 01:13:24,900
half to lay on a 10-1 team.
Last year, that has a good

1227
01:13:24,900 --> 01:13:28,400
offensive line when the Georgia
defense, lost, its best players

1228
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:30,400
on the offensive line and the
second level.

1229
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:35,100
I can't see that.
Georgia May win the game but

1230
01:13:35,100 --> 01:13:39,400
giving organ and give me the 17
and a half points because that's

1231
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:41,400
way too much to lay against a
good team.

1232
01:13:43,100 --> 01:13:45,400
Yeah.
The 17 and a half line is where

1233
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:48,100
I'm question.
If you were saying, I think if

1234
01:13:48,100 --> 01:13:51,200
you if this a moneyline question
you pick Georgia.

1235
01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:55,300
Yes.
When you got that big of a line

1236
01:13:55,300 --> 01:13:58,600
17 and half is just too much.
I know there's a lot of

1237
01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:03,900
differences with that Oregon
team coming in obviously their

1238
01:14:03,900 --> 01:14:10,400
head coach is now down there in
in Miami but this is still a

1239
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:15,400
solid Talent.
Roster that is still coming in

1240
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:17,800
there.
I don't think it's going to be a

1241
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:20,500
runaway for Georgia for the
reasons you mentioned.

1242
01:14:20,500 --> 01:14:23,400
The loss of town.
I think they definitely reload.

1243
01:14:23,500 --> 01:14:26,500
I don't think we see a
significant drop off but we'll

1244
01:14:26,500 --> 01:14:31,200
see enough of a drop-off
especially week one for them to

1245
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:35,500
not be able to, you know, blow
the doors, blow the doors off of

1246
01:14:35,500 --> 01:14:39,300
a very solid organ.
Team, that's my big Stringer.

1247
01:14:39,300 --> 01:14:43,600
What's your big screen?
You know, I kind of This around

1248
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:50,100
a couple different ways but
ultimately landed on Utah, going

1249
01:14:50,100 --> 01:14:53,100
to the swamp and facing the
Gators.

1250
01:14:54,100 --> 01:14:58,800
I was I was leaning towards the
Backyard Brawl, it's on a

1251
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:03,600
Thursday night, it's two, it's
two teams we play, it is two

1252
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:08,100
teams we play, but I don't think
that is Marquise enough of a

1253
01:15:08,100 --> 01:15:13,500
matchup in the big picture for
it to Be a big screener.

1254
01:15:14,300 --> 01:15:16,900
Obviously, since they're on
different nights technically,

1255
01:15:16,900 --> 01:15:20,600
they're both going to be big
screeners but if I had to pick

1256
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:23,400
between the two, I would put
Utah and Florida on there.

1257
01:15:23,900 --> 01:15:30,900
And when I look at this game,
you know, Utah is the the road

1258
01:15:30,900 --> 01:15:38,200
favorite and it's minus 3.
I'm going to, I'm going to still

1259
01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:42,800
tell you Tha here.
I think Utah is probably the To

1260
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:46,600
come out of the Pac-12.
I think they are based on their

1261
01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:49,500
record if they can get past this
matchup that you're going to be

1262
01:15:49,500 --> 01:15:52,100
a favorite team to make the
college football playoff.

1263
01:15:53,300 --> 01:15:58,900
So I like Utah here.
I think it's probably still a

1264
01:15:58,900 --> 01:16:02,700
high one score low to score game
but I think they're going at

1265
01:16:02,700 --> 01:16:06,900
least cover that three.
Yeah, I'm kind of with you on

1266
01:16:06,900 --> 01:16:12,600
that Utah returns a ton on just
it for the team in general.

1267
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:16,200
And obviously the last thing we
can remember from them last

1268
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:18,400
year's they kind of had a bitter
taste in her mouth losing that

1269
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:20,400
game to Ohio State in the Rose
Bowl, right?

1270
01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:24,500
All Spy field gold and basically
Secondary was absolutely

1271
01:16:24,500 --> 01:16:26,500
decimated.
Yep.

1272
01:16:27,100 --> 01:16:29,300
And they were having running
back to play quarterback and

1273
01:16:29,300 --> 01:16:31,200
safety.
That's when you're in real

1274
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:35,000
Prospect early, planting like
Ohio, State and the other piece

1275
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:37,500
is we don't know what Florida is
yet under billing date.

1276
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:41,900
It's very early in the process.
We've seen that team,

1277
01:16:41,900 --> 01:16:43,600
underperformed the last few
years.

1278
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:47,800
So to say, you have to open and
now luckily, it is in the swamp.

1279
01:16:49,300 --> 01:16:53,300
to me, if I'm looking at this
game and I'm looking through I'm

1280
01:16:53,300 --> 01:16:57,400
sort of looking through Vegas
eyes to say you're giving three

1281
01:16:57,400 --> 01:17:00,300
points on the home, will every
home team?

1282
01:17:00,300 --> 01:17:03,100
Should always get three points,
right?

1283
01:17:03,700 --> 01:17:06,900
So they're basically the and the
swamp is probably probably good

1284
01:17:06,900 --> 01:17:08,000
for five.
Yeah.

1285
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:12,600
So basically, you know, they are
really, really saying Utah's.

1286
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:19,100
Gonna win this game by more and,
you know, or we shocked at

1287
01:17:19,100 --> 01:17:21,500
Florida plays out of the 90
Napier's, a good coach and got

1288
01:17:21,500 --> 01:17:25,500
talent, but One of those things
where Kyle willingham's defense

1289
01:17:25,500 --> 01:17:28,300
to, I think everybody's talking
about the quarterback down in

1290
01:17:28,300 --> 01:17:33,600
Florida, making some noise and
it's like you're you're going to

1291
01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:35,500
go against.
Yeah, they're going to be saying

1292
01:17:35,500 --> 01:17:38,000
it's the Pac-12 defense.
If you see the way pack

1293
01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:40,600
Willingham coaches, his defense
is they hit hard.

1294
01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:45,500
They don't play like a Pac-12
peanuts, they don't Implement

1295
01:17:45,500 --> 01:17:47,200
me, they play more like an SEC
team.

1296
01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:50,600
That's so, you know, I'm kind of
with you.

1297
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:53,100
It's gonna be interesting
watching those games but it It's

1298
01:17:53,100 --> 01:17:55,700
all weekend in general, man.
I mean Thursday night, you

1299
01:17:55,700 --> 01:18:00,500
mentioned backyard, brawls and
kick it 7, sneaky sneaky Purdue

1300
01:18:00,500 --> 01:18:04,300
Penn State.
Penn State first game without

1301
01:18:04,300 --> 01:18:08,300
Brent prai has to go to Jeff
brohm in that offense.

1302
01:18:08,300 --> 01:18:12,100
I mean they can easily come out
011.

1303
01:18:12,700 --> 01:18:13,800
Yeah.
Blinky.

1304
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:20,600
And then, you know, get into
Saturday Arkansas, Cincinnati.

1305
01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:24,100
And then the other game that we
didn't put on a big screen or a

1306
01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:27,500
because I can't figure that game
out.

1307
01:18:27,700 --> 01:18:30,700
Ohio State Notre Dame on
Saturday night.

1308
01:18:30,700 --> 01:18:34,500
I can't sleep because it's
another big line and it's kind

1309
01:18:34,500 --> 01:18:39,000
of like, well, you know how the
state is a high-powered offense,

1310
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:41,100
it's in the shoe, it's unlike
game.

1311
01:18:42,100 --> 01:18:45,900
It's also a good matchups, LSU
FSU, Sunday night.

1312
01:18:45,900 --> 01:18:48,600
I mean, it's here we get five
straight days of college

1313
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:50,800
football, man.
And I'll say this about the

1314
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:52,800
Notre Dame, Ohio State game in
the reason.

1315
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:58,200
I didn't call that my big
screener is because Ohio,

1316
01:18:58,200 --> 01:19:01,500
State's the heavy favorite in
Ohio State could still lose that

1317
01:19:01,500 --> 01:19:04,400
game and still make the college
football playoff.

1318
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:09,400
Whereas, you look at Utah who is
a kind of Dark Horse favorite to

1319
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:12,300
make the college football.
Playoff if a Who's the Florida,

1320
01:19:12,300 --> 01:19:16,300
especially if they lose badly to
Florida there out there out so

1321
01:19:16,300 --> 01:19:17,800
that that's kind of the
difference there.

1322
01:19:18,300 --> 01:19:21,700
I get that 110%.
All right, Braun.

1323
01:19:21,700 --> 01:19:23,500
I know there's some things
breaking.

1324
01:19:24,100 --> 01:19:26,800
I'm not going to discuss them
because I'd eat you read into

1325
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:31,500
that more Jacob, uh, shout-out.
I see your message.

1326
01:19:31,500 --> 01:19:36,000
We're not putting it up there a
because if it's in 24/7, it

1327
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could be behind a pay wall.
We also don't know if it's going

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to impact anything, we don't
really know.

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Don't know what it is.
We're going to have to go

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literally read this and talk
about this after we go off in

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just a second here.
But if nothing else is breaking

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Ron that is going to wrap up
this episode of The Boundary

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Corner podcast.
I am Curtis Wilson, I'm Brian

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Sigler.
Visit our website, boundary

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01:20:00,500 --> 01:20:06,000
Corner, V t.com to check out all
of our episodes.

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While you're there.
Don't forget to follow us on

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Twitter, Facebook, Instagram and
subscribe for our YouTube

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accounts, which we have seen a
significant bump in in the last

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few days.
And definitely go Spotify.

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Amazon Apple podcast tomorrow, 2
p.m. check out mr.

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Ziegler on 910 radio, with a
wad.

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He's going to be doing a little
quick breakdown for the folks

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here in Richmond.
Brian this week, maybe me next

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week, but one of us likely will
be on 910 radio, giving a quick

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01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:52,200
okey breakdown.
Shout out a wad Adam Epstein

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01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:54,000
with nine ten reaching out to
us.

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Even this is opportunity.
We feel really fortunate for

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01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:59,500
this.
It's pretty awesome because it's

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a radio show.
We've listened to for that spot

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910 we wouldn't do for a long
time.

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Yes we have PS we have looking
forward to it.

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All right, as always, we let our
buddy, Jason long, he plays Us

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in.
He plays us out and this

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01:21:15,300 --> 01:21:18,200
Saturday morning, check him out
down at The Grandin Village

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01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:22,500
Farmers Market from 8 to 12,
he's got some other upcoming

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dates both in September and
October as we get closer to

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those dates, we will definitely
tell you guys about them.

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Check out his music on apple,
pie Spotify, his YouTube account

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and its Facebook page all on his
website.

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We thank you for listening.
And as always, let's go Hokies