Know the Enemy: Old Dominion
Boundary Corner Podcast
Know the Enemy: Old Dominion

This week we take a long look at what we expect from the Hokies in Week 1 as they host the Monarchs of Old Dominion. We also breakdown the Week 0 outcomes, more conference realignment, and the B1Gs new rule on injury reports.

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And welcome back to the Boundary
Corner Podcast with my partners

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Brian Siegel and Jonathan
Talley.

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I am Curtis Wilson and this
episode is brought to you by Dr.

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Jeremy Counts at the Main Street
Pharmacy Your friendly

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neighborhood pharmacy located at
301 S Main St. in Blacksburg.

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And boys, we have finally made
it with Game Week.

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Game week is here.
How y'all feeling today tally?

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It said start jumping.
I mean, when it was coming on,

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that's what I seen flash across
the screen.

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I see Jerry's already in there.
Jerry says she's got questions

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that she needs answers to.
We all need them, Jerry.

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We need them too.
How y'all doing tonight?

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We going to try to do that?
That's right, Matt.

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In this game we LFG baby.
See.

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How you doing tonight, man.
Living the dream man I am, I got

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a little Hardy wood fighting
hokey HEPA vising over here.

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It is a good night in the the
RVA.

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It's been a busy week already
this week at work, so I'm just

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happy to be able to kick it with
you guys, talk a little football

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and get ready for Saturday.
Yeah, and we got a lot to go

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through tonight.
We'll get to some of the other

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stuff in a little while here,
but we're going to just start

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off real quick with this.
Last week, our buddy, you know

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Grayson Wimbush on here talking
about rowdy for Robbie.

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We wanted to give y'all real
quick where that's going to be

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this week to go out there
support such a great cause.

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So on Saturday on game day it is
going to be in Lot 1 spot 164.

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That's the that is the lot near
Castle Coliseum.

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It's going to be there between
4:00 and 5:00 PM.

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Now starting Friday it is going
to be at our partners Main

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Street pharmacy down there $7.00
a piece.

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Now game day they're going to
accept both cash and Venmo and

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if you go to the pharmacy, if
you're in town on Friday like we

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will be in two weeks, me and
Brian at least they will only do

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Venmo so definitely go support
it.

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Great cause definitely you know
something out there.

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Clearly you heard the story
about Robbie last week, a

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massive Hokie fan who passed
away a testicular cancer and now

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trying to do some good more to
bring more awareness to that

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particular cancer.
So every week we know it's going

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to be a home game and we know
that they're going to be there.

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We're going to tell you where to
go to support this cause so.

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Yeah, we really appreciate Grace
and jumping on with us last

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week, You know #1, getting a
chance to talk to you all about

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Roddy for Robbie, but also
bringing some great insight to

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our our our season prediction
episode last week.

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Great episode all around.
And just a big thanks to him for

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joining us last week.
But this week it's all about

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game day, baby.
It's all about Saturday, what's

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going to happen Saturday and
what we can expect.

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So looking forward to doing
that.

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But Curtis, tell them what we're
going to be doing first here.

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Well, we're going to look at
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Let's take a look at some of the
Week 0 outcomes because I am

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sure everyone at some point in
time sat down for a few minutes

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on Saturday to watch a little
football.

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And you know, even though these
two teams aren't we, they aren't

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on the schedule this year.
One that will be every once in a

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while watching Notre Dame.
Absolutely.

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Just mall, Navy.
I don't think that shocked

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anybody in USC.
I'm going to tell you what what

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I tell Jason, our wonderful
music guy.

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I I told him Friday night.
Jason, you'll make any bets.

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Now I'm like, dude, you need to
make a bet.

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What I tell him, Brian, I see
Guarantee of the Week.

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Yup.
USC, San Jose State over 66 and

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a.
Half.

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He didn't make the bet and I
sent him the game.

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I said hold you, USC doesn't.
Play defense.

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See Jason's got gunshot with
bets now because every time he

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bets it goes the opposite way of
what he would actually desire it

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to go.
So I feel like, you know, he

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feels like you put the a big
kibosh on the.

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The US Women's National Team
soccer, I mean he's he's done

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some folks dirty here the last
few weeks and he's starting to

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get a little gunshot.
Yeah, but he is going to start a

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go fund me just for his gambling
habit is what he's telling us,

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Jack.
I see how that works out.

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So he just.
Got to put out more albums, man.

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He put up more hours.
He got to have all the money he

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need.
He good.

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All right.
Well, I got a question Tyler.

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You've been you've been kind of
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space.
Was there a game on Saturday

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that somehow called everybody in
Okie's attentions?

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I.
Oh yeah, You know, it was.

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I mean, I don't even know how
many people watched it.

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I didn't.
I didn't watch it.

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I watched some of it, I saw a
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were posted out there and I
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Once, once people saw the stat
line dropped out there, it got

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it caught a lot of people's
attention.

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Now that's what it was.
Stat line and of course,

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highlights.
I mean, look like he had a great

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game, look like Jason Brown, if
people don't know what we're

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talking about.
Jackson State University's

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quarterback now had a great game
and he looked good from what I

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seen.
You know, I didn't watch the

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game, but watching the
highlights.

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He looked great and I'm happy
for him.

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I mean, I want to see, I want to
see everybody produce very

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happy.
If y'all didn't see they won 37,

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seven.
He went 25 for 59 or 25 for

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29356, three touchdowns and you
know and it and it just brought

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up everybody rushing back to
last year right when Grant will

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beats him out.
Jason Brown never got a shot.

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You know, it was one of those
wild things that you know,

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obviously, right?
It had to be the hokey going to

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do it.
You're going to transfer from

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any other school and got to do
that shit.

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It had to be the guy who was a
hokey last.

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Year The one thing I'll say how
I feel about.

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I didn't mean to cut you off
single, but what I how I feel

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and I've seen a couple of
arguments and things about it.

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I never, you know, I feel like
last season was as bad as it can

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get.
I know it's not, but as a hokey

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fan, you know, winning three
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for us.
I just wanted to see a change at

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the quarterback position.
Not for the rest of the season,

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not for the whole game, just
maybe a series.

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I just wanted somebody to be
like Okay Grant, you done threw

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4 picks, man.
Come sit down for a minute.

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Let me let let's see what else
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That's I think that's what most
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But all of the arguments have
been, well, it wasn't no matter

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who was the quarterback, he he
would have lost anyway.

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You know he was sorry we didn't
have this.

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We had we just wanted to see a
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We just wanted to see what would
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So I'm just putting that out
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That's what I feel well.
Yeah.

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I'm kind of with that just
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been worth seeing even if you
don't pull pull wells as the

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starters.
Give Brown some series, let's

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see what he can do.
You know, we know he had

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probably a little bit of extra
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probably could have did a little
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Would he be able to come along
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Power Five competition?
That's that's to be seen.

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Obviously he had some experience
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before he came in.
So we know from a big game

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pressure standpoint he could
handle that aspect of it, right?

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And that looks like the area
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Wells was struggling with a lot
last season, but I I just don't

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know.
Obviously in South Carolina he

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was throwing to what I would
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receivers, whereas we had Caleb
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weren't quite either were too
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weren't.
Weren't where they needed to be.

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So I don't know, but I'm glad
that the kid found a spot where

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he can go and ball out and.
I hope that.

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I hope he does it all season,
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There you go.
I hope, I hope, I hope we see

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how it lights up in miles
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There you go.
All right.

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Couple other things to hit
before we get into the big stuff

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tonight is I want to just hit it
real quick.

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We have not mentioned it, but
this talk of a CC expansion,

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Stanford and Cal and SMU down in
Texas, obviously it's going to

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bring in a little bit more
money, probably about 5 to $10

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million extra a year, bring it
on 13.

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Bring it on.
OK, you say.

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Bring it on.
So is it a longterm solution?

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No, no, I don't think so.
I think it's dead no matter

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what, honestly, you know what
I'm saying?

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But if that's going to give to
school, when you say 5 to 10

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million, you said it like maybe
5 to 10 million, like 5 to 10

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million is a lot of money.
So if they don't come and play,

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can I say something to go ahead
just so you can go, shit, even

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that extra 5 to 10 million, it's
still $40 million.

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I already looked at it.
It's kind of like when you in

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debt though, you know what I'm
saying?

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Like you in debt and you know
that you got bills to pay, but

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you find $500.00 on the ground.
You like this money I didn't

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have.
It's casino time.

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Let's see what we can turn this
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Should I go play the house?
No, no, no.

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We're playing the mortgage.
I was, I was it's it's a good

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shortterm move.
I mean it at least puts a little

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Band-Aid on it, but I don't
think it it changes whatever the

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longterm plans are for Florida
State and it doesn't really for

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any help the ACC get competitive
relative to the Big 10 and the

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SEC.
Now what it does do is that it

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potentially in the shortterm
keeps the ACC.

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Neck in neck or just ahead of
the Big 12 if if that's what

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you're aiming for, you're you're
accomplishing that.

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You're not doing a whole lot
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But The thing is is like, right
now, too, you had so much

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speculation about this person is
going to be gone by this time,

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this person going to be gone by
this time or this school, this

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school.
Well, that's not happening.

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You know what I'm saying?
Like for now.

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Nobody's gone.
Nobody's, nobody's left.

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Now it could happen next week,
we don't know, but I'm just

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saying as of now.
So I think they're just trying

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to put a You ever seen that?
What's the commercial the guy

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puts?
He's got the like the tape

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looking stuff and it's a leak
coming out.

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Oh yeah.
When he slaps it on that flex

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seal, he's.
I think they're just trying to

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flex seal it, you know what I'm
saying?

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It's not a longterm thing, but I
mean, shit, let's do it.

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I see this right here by Jim,
and it'll keep Notre Dame

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associated, but the second FSU
in Clemson leaves all the

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notoriety.
The ACC is gone, but the second

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they leave, it's going to be the
it's the domino effect that

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you've got the the true schools
that care about football and

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care about sports.
We know who they are.

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We've seen that they're going to
be, we're looking for a way out.

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That's it.
They're going to be looking for

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a way out.
And as soon as the two big

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dominoes fall, you're going to
see where everybody else lands.

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Again, stay competitive with the
Big 12.

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That's fine.
But anybody else tired of Notre

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Dame trying to flex their nuts?
In the end, you know what?

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Without fully.
Screw them.

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Screw them.
You want us to add these schools

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because you want to play them.
Join the conference.

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You know what should have
happened.

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I'm gonna go on a tangent.
You know what should have

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happened 2020 when they joined
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We.
Should have said fuck you,

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that's it.
We should have said, Nope, go

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find your own conference this
year because we got you on lot

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for about the next six years.
If you break that contract,

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you're going to owe us about
$300 million.

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Yeah, because they didn't.
They play.

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Didn't they play for the ACC
candidate?

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They play for the A.
CC title.

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The commissioners of the ACC
have not they deal did a strong

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enough position.
They have not strong armed

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anybody into anything ever.
They're just leaning on the

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grant of rights to maintain
their conference.

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They they have not taken any
sort of initiative to grow.

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To take long term moves since
really what 20/10/2011 we've

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been, I saw somebody put it it
is the most reactionary

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conference in the country.
Because when all the stuff was

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breaking last year, if you want
Cal and Stanford, that's fine.

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Great educational institutions,
big endowments, great Olympic

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sports, but you should have been
looking at them and you should

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have been looking at tools north
of them in Washington and Oregon

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who have football tradition, who
have a very strong.

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Sports program even even right
now.

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I mean, I ain't saying we got to
grab all of them, but I mean the

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other two schools, they're still
in the where they pack for right

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now.
Whatever.

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They're talking better TV
ratings.

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I mean, I think they are better
football programs right now, you

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know, So why not?
Stanford pulls good money, but

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Caledon pull shit cows, the
cows, the Briles.

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SMU has money, but SMU don't
pull shit.

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They don't push.
They don't pull shit in ratings,

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pal.
They both just like the drunk

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friends who's tagging along when
you covering the bar tab for the

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night is what it is.
That's what they are.

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All right, let's go to this one
last piece.

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I don't know if y'all saw this.
I know I sent the article, but

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we busy.
We got lives touché Thanks Will

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for that.
But if y'all notice that the Big

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10 this year is going to be
instituting game day player

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availability 2 hours before the
game.

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Basically they've got to say
who's in and who's out.

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Y'all like that.
If this was let's say this is

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the Hokies, would you like to
know two hours before the game

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who's playing, Who's not
playing?

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I mean, as a fan you do, you
know, But as far as like giving

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your team a edge, it ain't going
to fucking matter.

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It's either you prepared all
week to just go play.

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You know, two hours ain't going
to help you.

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You got to go be ready for
whoever trots out there, you

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know what I'm saying?
And then in our case, like we

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would go play teams in the past
and it would be that fucking

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backup quarterback that would
come in and rush for 290 yards,

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you know what I'm saying?
So it's like it ain't a huge

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deal, but I understand it.
Yeah, I mean.

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We've ended up, we've ended up
getting completely torched by

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backup quarterbacks that we
didn't know we're going to play

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a snap.
So I don't, I don't know if this

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is helping or hurting from that
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I think it's a fan.
It's nice, it's nice to know,

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right?
I don't have to like, troll, you

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know, bitters or David
Cunningham's Twitter feed just

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to see who's on the field
warming up and not.

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Well, I think the, I think the
main thing is like kind of

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you're starting treating the
college athlete like a a pro

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athlete.
You know, it's like you're

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buying tickets and then you've
got NIL stuff.

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So you may just be coming for
whoever you're supporting in

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NIL.
So as a fan, if you know, you

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know they're not playing, that
may make a difference in

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something that you're doing.
You know what I'm saying?

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Whether you're supporting this
this week or you're not, maybe.

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I don't know.
I guess that's the only way I

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look at it.
I I like it.

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Again, I I look at it from a fan
perspective because what you

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just said Brian all three of us
are on will be on here Saturday

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night.
Brian's going to be over at the

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house.
We're going to probably be

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texting back and forth with you
Tally.

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We will be looking at Bitter and
whoever's at the game who's out

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there.
You know, we heard Gallows

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questionable.
He.

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Is he out there warming up?
We heard so and so ain't

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playing.
Is he even out there even trying

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to stretch?
Is he going to play next week?

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That's what you look for for as
a fan because there are

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sometimes there's been so, so
much secretive stuff, you know

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And then on the other team it's
the same way you always y'all

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joking about backup quarterbacks
torching us.

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But I tell you what, when we get
to play in some of the bigger

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teams, if you tell me, we play
FSU and hey, Jordan Travis ain't

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playing tonight.
Good, good.

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I'm glad he ain't playing.
All right.

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Well, as y'all know, we usually
have a breakdown segment every

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week that we call Know the Enemy
that's going to return next

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week.
This week we're going to do a

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little something different
because of how drastic the

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turnover is of our team.
We going to do a little know

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yourself.
You got to know yourself before

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you go out there and start
knowing everybody else.

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And we're going to do this
position by position, group by

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group.
I want to discuss what we us

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3:00.
We we we got together, we wrote

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a bunch of stuff down what we
have to see Saturday night in

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Lane Stadium to make us feel
better about this season.

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Now I'll also say this another
reason was because we have been

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attempting to find stuff on ODU
for the last three weeks.

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Other than I know Grant Wilson's
the quarterback, no relation.

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They had like 56 new players so
they look very different.

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I think one of the defensive
backs and one of the edge guys

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from last year still there, like
1 white out, like Watson left.

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Obviously Allie Jennings left.
They don't have a lot out there

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to begin with.
So y'all ready break you up.

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Get yourself ready Taly, break
it up.

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We got to do it.
Just old man, let's start.

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You old.
Uh, huh.

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That's the best part here.
I feel you never say you old in

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this group.
Curtis Curtis is officially the

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Four Zero man.
He's holding it down.

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The Big Four.
Oh, my brother just turned.

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No, he didn't turn.
He turns 50 September the 5th.

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We went to his house for a big
birthday bash last weekend and

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he will be spending his
birthday.

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He's already there in Africa.
Wow.

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He's yeah, he's gone already.
He's 50.

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Yeah, he just he's how?
I don't know.

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He's been sending me pictures
and stuff.

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So I got to go check and see all
of his stuff.

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I had to download an app just so
I can talk to him, but I mean,

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he traveled by himself.
He doesn't have kids, not

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married.
So he was just like, hey, I

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forgot to tell you I'm going to
Africa for my birthday.

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I was like, okay man.
Have have a good time.

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If I'll hear from you in a
couple of weeks, I'm going to

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come looking for you.
You know what I'm saying?

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So, yeah, but anyway, so so
we're going to start.

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People had to go grab a drink.
Y'all, he'll be back in 30

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seconds.
So we're going to start

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offensive side.
Obviously we got to start

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offense.
Y'all, we're here to hear us

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talk about defense and we're
going to start at the

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quarterback room and the
quarterback room.

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It's two guys.
We're going to talk about them

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both.
First let's talk about Grant

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Wells.
Tally, you brought up the strong

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point.
What's the one thing you got to

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see Saturday night from Grant
Wells?

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I mean, if you've been hired
under a rock.

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You know Grant Wells is was
announced to starter.

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So we are work.
We are running with Grant at

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starter starting quarterback on
Saturday and the first thing I

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will say is no avoidable
turnovers.

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I I don't want to sound like I
hate it and deep dive into what

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his whole career has been but
I'm just saying it's football.

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You're going to get some
turnovers.

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But the big word is.
Avoidable turnovers we don't

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want.
You can't be trying to fit stuff

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where it's not going to fit.
Take the layups, man.

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Take the layups you know don't
be trying to fit the ball with

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because this is an inferior
opponent.

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I hate to tell you, anybody who
wants to argue with me, argue

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with your Mama.
This is an inferior opponent.

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Use your play makers that you
they went out and got hand the

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ball to who you need to hand the
ball to throw the ball away.

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When you need to throw the ball
away, make the make the pass

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when you need to make the pass.
No avoidable turnovers.

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That's what I'll be looking for.
Yeah.

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And my my hope is that having
those weapons around him will

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help some of that because when
we look at last year, there was

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probably a lot of prep with with
the running game, not not doing

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great receivers, not getting a
ton of of separation on on a

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regular basis, Grant Will
probably figured.

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I'm going to have to take some
risk here if we're going to move

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the ball right.
I'm hoping that with a better

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cast of characters around him
that he takes fewer of those

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risk, and the ones that he do he
does take are more calculated

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risk and not just I got to make
a play right?

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If if we can get to that point,
I feel like that will you know

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at least you know.
Let's at least get to to a 2 to

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one ratio like if we can get.
At least there then we working

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with something.
I ain't saying we gotta go 3 to

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1, go out there and two, light
it up to two to one. 2.

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To 1/2 to one will put us in
probably a.

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What a what a shit ton of games
last year 2 to.

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One.
Yeah, if he was 18 and 9 and not

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9:00 and 9:00 last year.
That that That's a big

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difference last year. 63 more
points.

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So, so if we get there, then
you're you're working with

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something and and I want to
piggyback on that because we

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talked about avoidable
turnovers.

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We also got to talk about the
other part of it, which is the

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domino defeats is what I call it
when one thing goes wrong and

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that leads to something else
going wrong and that leads to

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something else going wrong.
We had that a lot last year.

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It happened with Grant.
A lot it wasn't.

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Explicitly a Grant problem, but
Grant was definitely someone

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that had those moments where one
wrong move would lead to another

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would lead to another, and all
of a sudden a game that you had

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to lead in, you lost the lead in
a game that you were close in

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now was a blowout.
So if if we can be more mentally

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tough and play the next play and
not let what happened last time

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effect was going on this time.
And play within the scheme of

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the offense.
We're going to be a lot better.

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If I could just go ahead,
Curtis.

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Well, for me, you know, just
like you said, like the domino

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defeats, like everybody that
plays sports, period.

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No matter what sport it is, be
water polo, like everybody's got

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a plan until you get hit in the
mouth.

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Either that's a physical hit in
the mouth or, you know what I'm

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saying, a mental hit in the
mouth.

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Everybody has a plan.
I just want to see the grant

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that was in the spring game, you
know, to talk about how good of

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a practice player he is and him
going out there and he's

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progressed and things like that.
And I believe, you know, he's

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got better.
But I want to see the command he

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had in the spring game.
One play that stands out in my

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mind if he was live when he
scores maybe like was it the

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first touchdown, maybe the
second touchdown where he pulls

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the ball and goes straight up
the middle and you got those two

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defenders, the virgin on him
like in a game he would have got

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hit.
You know what I'm saying?

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Do you hold on to that ball?
Do you make one of them miss?

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Do you die for it?
Like that's what I need to see.

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Are you going to make those
winning plays and and have that

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confidence when you get hit in
the mouth?

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That's what I want to see from
to see if he going to lead the

447
00:24:13,830 --> 00:24:14,750
team.
You know what I'm saying?

448
00:24:14,750 --> 00:24:16,710
I agree.
With that 100%, I'm going to go

449
00:24:16,710 --> 00:24:18,510
back piggy what?
Siegler says.

450
00:24:18,510 --> 00:24:21,790
Where I make my point here.
He seems like he is a guy that

451
00:24:21,790 --> 00:24:23,230
occasionally he gets in his own
head.

452
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:25,280
He gets in his own, you can see
it.

453
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,640
There's times last year where he
was, you know, he had threaded a

454
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,080
couple times and he gets picked
and then either there was a

455
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:35,200
hesitation or he would make the
same throw again and it wouldn't

456
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,960
be good.
And that's, you know, that's

457
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:43,080
something that I think you get
to a certain point in your life.

458
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,640
That's just you are what you are
now.

459
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,560
Can some people overcome it?
Yes.

460
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,120
Is he one?
I hope so.

461
00:24:50,700 --> 00:24:52,580
Now before I make my point here,
I'm going to make a real quick

462
00:24:52,580 --> 00:24:54,700
point because a couple folks
have already thrown in the chat,

463
00:24:54,700 --> 00:24:57,540
do put in your game predictions.
We're going to be making hours

464
00:24:57,540 --> 00:25:00,260
at the end of the segment in a
while here because it is going

465
00:25:00,260 --> 00:25:02,220
to be a while.
But definitely put it in.

466
00:25:02,220 --> 00:25:03,540
Somebody's already put one out
there.

467
00:25:03,540 --> 00:25:05,620
Thank you, low country.
We will pop that up later.

468
00:25:05,860 --> 00:25:10,420
But here's my thing.
I'm looking more for schematic

469
00:25:10,420 --> 00:25:14,500
things and one of the big
schematics are this year we are

470
00:25:14,500 --> 00:25:19,010
going to the true RPO.
We're not looking at power runs.

471
00:25:19,010 --> 00:25:21,210
We're not looking at potentially
being Wisconsin.

472
00:25:21,490 --> 00:25:24,370
You let Tyler Bowen take what's
his and make it.

473
00:25:24,610 --> 00:25:29,650
And what I need to see is there
are going to be times he needs

474
00:25:29,650 --> 00:25:32,290
to pull the ball and run on
those RPO's.

475
00:25:32,570 --> 00:25:35,810
I don't care if you get 2 yards.
I don't care if you get 10.

476
00:25:35,890 --> 00:25:37,530
I don't care if you break a 30
yarder.

477
00:25:37,650 --> 00:25:39,530
I don't care if you get stopped
at the line of scrimmage

478
00:25:39,850 --> 00:25:43,470
because.
No, we got to keep him honest.

479
00:25:43,710 --> 00:25:47,230
And the way this offense works
is if that linebacker and no

480
00:25:47,230 --> 00:25:49,990
safety start moving on those
RPO's, whether you're going to

481
00:25:49,990 --> 00:25:53,430
run it or not, lanes open
easier, throws are made.

482
00:25:54,150 --> 00:25:57,790
He's got to do it.
And if he's not doing it, Tyler

483
00:25:57,790 --> 00:26:00,350
Bone, who's going to be up in
the booth, better walk down,

484
00:26:00,630 --> 00:26:03,950
take this thing and slap on his
head, run the ball occasionally,

485
00:26:04,030 --> 00:26:07,790
run the ball occasionally.
They are spitting you and

486
00:26:07,790 --> 00:26:10,690
they're taking your lane down.
He can call down and say, hey,

487
00:26:10,690 --> 00:26:12,610
you know that other guy that's
over there on the bench, tell

488
00:26:12,610 --> 00:26:14,930
him to go run.
Well, let's talk about the other

489
00:26:14,930 --> 00:26:15,330
guy.
What?

490
00:26:15,330 --> 00:26:16,810
What?
What Y'all think about what?

491
00:26:16,810 --> 00:26:19,690
What do y'all feel like?
We need to see some from Kyron

492
00:26:19,690 --> 00:26:24,410
over the next.
This week, I mean, I feel like,

493
00:26:24,530 --> 00:26:27,730
you know the fact that Prize
said he's going to get play

494
00:26:27,730 --> 00:26:31,530
every week, he didn't just say
he's going to have some

495
00:26:31,530 --> 00:26:33,450
packages, he's going to see some
time.

496
00:26:33,450 --> 00:26:35,330
He said he is going to see time
every week.

497
00:26:36,850 --> 00:26:39,730
So I'm not sure if we're we're
getting a full.

498
00:26:40,540 --> 00:26:46,340
You know, redux of, you know,
2007 here or if it's going to be

499
00:26:46,780 --> 00:26:48,980
mix and match.
I don't, I don't know what it's

500
00:26:48,980 --> 00:26:53,340
going to be.
The thing for me is that when

501
00:26:53,340 --> 00:26:57,020
you put drones in the game, it
can't be predictable.

502
00:26:57,580 --> 00:27:00,220
You're you're going to have
selected plays for him.

503
00:27:00,220 --> 00:27:03,660
Obviously a smaller playbook,
but it can't be a predictable

504
00:27:03,660 --> 00:27:06,660
smaller playbook you're going to
want to give him.

505
00:27:07,830 --> 00:27:11,990
A handful of run plays he's good
with and a handful of pass plays

506
00:27:11,990 --> 00:27:15,830
he's good with and his first
play out there needs to be a

507
00:27:15,830 --> 00:27:19,310
pass because of his first play
on the field is a pass that

508
00:27:19,310 --> 00:27:22,990
everybody will be thinking all
right, just cuz he's out here

509
00:27:22,990 --> 00:27:25,070
and ain't a run.
You got to be prepared for

510
00:27:25,070 --> 00:27:27,710
everything now.
And even if he doesn't run, even

511
00:27:27,710 --> 00:27:31,350
if it's not a pass, I agree with
you think a pass would be great

512
00:27:31,630 --> 00:27:35,030
if he turns around, turns the
ball around and and hands it to

513
00:27:35,030 --> 00:27:37,880
one of your running backs and
they get 4 to 5 yards.

514
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,600
You know, just a normal running
play.

515
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,600
You just can't be predictable.
You can't have him.

516
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:50,480
You can't be going out there.
But we lost Tally for a second

517
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,920
there.
While we get him back on real

518
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,800
quick, something we've been
discussing is basically find his

519
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,350
10 best plays.
Running or pass.

520
00:28:00,350 --> 00:28:01,790
We lost you there for a second
tally.

521
00:28:01,990 --> 00:28:05,030
Yeah, I've seen that.
So I'll let you, I'll let you

522
00:28:05,030 --> 00:28:07,830
come back in what you were going
to finish up saying, but find

523
00:28:07,830 --> 00:28:11,230
those 10 best plays running and
pass because it can't be all pat

524
00:28:11,230 --> 00:28:15,150
run and it can't be all pass.
So mix those in, give him those

525
00:28:15,150 --> 00:28:20,470
series and and when I say that,
that's a lot more of, it's going

526
00:28:20,470 --> 00:28:23,550
to be more passes because you're
going to have plays that are

527
00:28:23,550 --> 00:28:26,030
strictly for the running backs.
Kelly, what were you saying?

528
00:28:27,030 --> 00:28:28,790
I mean, that kind of sums it up
what you say.

529
00:28:29,810 --> 00:28:32,650
Give him, give him 10 best
plays, you know, not just a

530
00:28:32,650 --> 00:28:35,170
predictable one play, not just
two plays.

531
00:28:35,170 --> 00:28:38,730
Like he's got to have some plays
that are going to get the

532
00:28:39,130 --> 00:28:41,410
they're going to get the defense
off kilter, you know what I'm

533
00:28:41,410 --> 00:28:42,650
saying?
Like we got it.

534
00:28:42,650 --> 00:28:45,170
We got to be able to put him in
to be like a change of pace

535
00:28:45,170 --> 00:28:47,010
back.
You know, it's got to be

536
00:28:47,010 --> 00:28:50,570
something that just changes that
offense up just a little bit to

537
00:28:50,570 --> 00:28:52,450
give the defense something
different to look at.

538
00:28:52,610 --> 00:28:55,970
Now can I say this if it's third
and 1 1/2?

539
00:28:57,610 --> 00:29:00,490
Occasionally you put him on that
field and just let him plow his

540
00:29:00,490 --> 00:29:04,050
6 foot, three turn and 35 pound
frame forward and get the first

541
00:29:04,050 --> 00:29:05,770
down.
I can be predictable.

542
00:29:06,330 --> 00:29:08,890
I can be predictable.
We saw that with the Eagles last

543
00:29:08,890 --> 00:29:10,130
year and how they perfected
that.

544
00:29:10,130 --> 00:29:13,650
Sneak on like what 3rd and 4th
and two they get 3 yards.

545
00:29:14,970 --> 00:29:17,490
If you're getting decent push
and you got a quarterback that

546
00:29:17,490 --> 00:29:21,450
that size that can get low and
push the pile, predictables are

547
00:29:22,090 --> 00:29:24,820
because it's effective.
The problem is is when you're

548
00:29:24,820 --> 00:29:27,820
predictable on first or second
down with your with your second

549
00:29:27,820 --> 00:29:31,300
quarterback in the game and they
know all right well it's it's

550
00:29:31,300 --> 00:29:34,740
first down they put in this
quarterback expect quarterback

551
00:29:34,740 --> 00:29:38,820
power like we we can't get to
that point if if they if they

552
00:29:38,820 --> 00:29:41,700
know what to expect every time
drones walks in the game then

553
00:29:41,700 --> 00:29:42,900
that that's going to be a
problem.

554
00:29:44,380 --> 00:29:47,220
That's what we need to avoid if
we can avoid that, I think.

555
00:29:47,770 --> 00:29:49,570
The two quarterbacks set up here
could work.

556
00:29:49,570 --> 00:29:52,650
For us could work.
I've been watching Swamp Kings

557
00:29:52,650 --> 00:29:56,010
on Netflix, so they two
quarterback system was working

558
00:29:56,010 --> 00:29:58,770
pretty good.
Maybe we can take a, Maybe we

559
00:29:58,770 --> 00:30:02,930
can take.
A.

560
00:30:03,050 --> 00:30:08,410
We lost you again there.
But yeah, although the Chris

561
00:30:08,410 --> 00:30:13,410
Leak does not get the respect he
deserves in circles, so.

562
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,480
We're going to move over to the
wide receiver tight in room.

563
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,760
I put those together because
that is the skill positions to

564
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:25,160
me and after what we heard from
coach today with Nick Gallo

565
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,040
seemingly questionable for this
game, potentially questionable

566
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,480
for multiple games, I think
Benji Goes now has got to be the

567
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,880
go do it all tight in.
Although Daquan White look like

568
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:39,200
maybe he gained some some weight
and some muscle, showing up at

569
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:43,620
about £250.
But we've seen Benji again, I

570
00:30:43,620 --> 00:30:46,180
think in the spring and not in
the spring game, but of his

571
00:30:46,180 --> 00:30:50,340
build, he's that guy can go in
there, play in line, play H,

572
00:30:50,380 --> 00:30:53,460
probably flex out.
So that's a big piece for me

573
00:30:53,460 --> 00:30:56,940
because they did name them.
Looking at the depth chart over

574
00:30:56,940 --> 00:31:01,900
here, it's Benji or Dequan is
the second time in behind Nick.

575
00:31:02,220 --> 00:31:07,420
I think Saturday night they're
going to be basically one and

576
00:31:07,420 --> 00:31:12,490
twos.
Yeah, I mean I think you know

577
00:31:12,490 --> 00:31:15,530
you're seeing, I think when we
look at the depth chart here and

578
00:31:15,530 --> 00:31:18,690
you got Benji above Daquan.
I think the thing there is that

579
00:31:18,690 --> 00:31:22,810
Benji is definitely the more all
around tight end, right,

580
00:31:24,170 --> 00:31:29,210
probably more in line with what
we expect from Gala, whereas

581
00:31:29,210 --> 00:31:35,250
right is definitely more of a
joker type tight end do it all.

582
00:31:35,690 --> 00:31:41,400
So you'll probably see him in.
Different packages that you may

583
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:46,000
see Benji in Benji would
probably be in every, you know,

584
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:51,600
11 tight end set, whereas you
know right might not be on the

585
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:56,880
field if it's just a an inline
tight end, single tight, tight

586
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,000
formation.
So that's probably the

587
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,200
difference there.
Yeah, go ahead.

588
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,040
Tell me what you got.
Another thing that we got to

589
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,160
think about is right.
You know, being.

590
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,000
I don't think he's 100%, you
know, I think he's been a little

591
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,500
nicked up.
You know, he didn't play in the

592
00:32:10,660 --> 00:32:13,540
in the spring game and then I
think they said he had some kind

593
00:32:13,540 --> 00:32:15,340
of little issue during fall
camp.

594
00:32:15,340 --> 00:32:20,300
So we don't know exactly where
he's at as far as health goes.

595
00:32:20,300 --> 00:32:23,620
So I think that's going to be
something else to to monitor too

596
00:32:23,620 --> 00:32:25,940
because it's football man.
You going to get injuries?

597
00:32:25,940 --> 00:32:28,620
You know, so how?
Do you play through it?

598
00:32:28,660 --> 00:32:30,140
How do you play through it?
What's that?

599
00:32:30,140 --> 00:32:33,700
What's the next man going to do
when he steps up and has to has

600
00:32:33,700 --> 00:32:35,460
to go?
Absolutely single.

601
00:32:35,460 --> 00:32:40,000
What do you got for this room?
The big thing I've got, the

602
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,800
thing that we struggled with all
of last year.

603
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,760
I need Daquan, right?
I need Feldon.

604
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,560
I need Lane.
I need them to feast on those

605
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:54,800
intermediate routes.
We were awful in that area all

606
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,960
of last year.
If it wasn't deep and down the

607
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,560
sideline or short right right in
front of the line of scrimmage,

608
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,040
we weren't really doing a whole
lot with it.

609
00:33:04,670 --> 00:33:07,150
We need to take advantage of
that area of the field because

610
00:33:07,150 --> 00:33:10,190
that is what moves the sticks
and sustained drives.

611
00:33:10,590 --> 00:33:13,710
If we're struggling with that
against ODU, I'm going to be

612
00:33:13,710 --> 00:33:17,030
worried going forward.
Yeah, definitely.

613
00:33:17,990 --> 00:33:22,350
I mean pretty much the segue
until the next point that we

614
00:33:22,350 --> 00:33:24,510
have kind of stand on that
piggybacking on it.

615
00:33:24,790 --> 00:33:27,310
But going to the next point,
it's the yards have to carry as

616
00:33:27,310 --> 00:33:29,230
well, but the yards have to
catch.

617
00:33:29,590 --> 00:33:32,660
It's like all of the people that
you're naming, like I seen

618
00:33:32,980 --> 00:33:35,980
Felton catch one in the spring
game and get hit.

619
00:33:36,020 --> 00:33:39,660
I mean a lick, lay it on him,
but he fell forward for like 3

620
00:33:39,660 --> 00:33:43,020
yards.
So that's better than falling

621
00:33:43,020 --> 00:33:44,780
back with three yards, you know
what I'm saying?

622
00:33:45,060 --> 00:33:48,540
It may not show up much on the
stat sheet, but if you can catch

623
00:33:48,540 --> 00:33:52,420
a 5 yard out and you fall
forward 3 yards and that's eight

624
00:33:52,420 --> 00:33:56,500
yards, you know what I'm saying?
So that's you know, second and

625
00:33:56,500 --> 00:34:00,990
two third and two instead of
second and five, you know, so

626
00:34:01,030 --> 00:34:02,950
things like that second.
And two, opens up that play

627
00:34:02,950 --> 00:34:04,390
action.
So I mean, there's a.

628
00:34:04,390 --> 00:34:06,670
Whole lot you can do with second
and two, there's a whole lot you

629
00:34:06,670 --> 00:34:10,750
can do give that third and short
versus that third and medium so.

630
00:34:11,150 --> 00:34:13,590
But it's but it's also and this
will go back to both the

631
00:34:13,590 --> 00:34:15,790
quarterbacks though it's it's
getting people comfortable.

632
00:34:16,150 --> 00:34:20,190
A little short 3 yard slant or a
little, you know, 5 yard dig and

633
00:34:20,190 --> 00:34:23,150
you can hit it a couple times.
You feel good, right?

634
00:34:23,310 --> 00:34:24,389
You.
Feel better?

635
00:34:24,550 --> 00:34:25,870
You have some confidence you can
throw.

636
00:34:26,270 --> 00:34:28,389
You make a good, you make a good
out pattern.

637
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,760
Make a good out pattern and he
it's 6 yards and and he breaks

638
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,840
the tackle and he's up.
The next thing to know it's like

639
00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:39,960
he's going to sit hard on that
route.

640
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,080
He's going to sit hard on that
route.

641
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,960
So maybe Tyler throws up.
What I've got to talk about is I

642
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:46,920
want to see what the route
concepts look like because I

643
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,840
think they are going to look
different this year than they

644
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,880
did last year.
I think we have.

645
00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:56,239
I think we have two really
skilled guys with Jennings and

646
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,250
Lane.
I think Jennings can do the

647
00:34:58,250 --> 00:35:00,490
whole tree.
I think Jennings is going to be

648
00:35:00,490 --> 00:35:03,410
all over the place.
We know Lane on the slot and and

649
00:35:03,490 --> 00:35:05,730
then we talk about the growth of
Stephen Gosnell.

650
00:35:06,210 --> 00:35:08,930
Stephen Gosnell looked solid
running routes last year.

651
00:35:09,250 --> 00:35:10,930
He did.
He didn't look bad running

652
00:35:10,930 --> 00:35:15,050
routes, but The thing is he
wasn't there as a player yet.

653
00:35:15,530 --> 00:35:18,130
I mean he'll he'll white wire
receiver they that's what they

654
00:35:18,130 --> 00:35:19,970
good at.
But he won't.

655
00:35:20,010 --> 00:35:22,170
Barely.
He's gonna have the routes down.

656
00:35:22,330 --> 00:35:24,890
Come on now.
But even in the like if you go

657
00:35:24,890 --> 00:35:27,620
back and look at him in the
spring game and you watch his

658
00:35:27,620 --> 00:35:32,980
routes that he ran it's pretty
clear and he he was doing it

659
00:35:33,180 --> 00:35:36,340
like I'm watching him even on
some passes that he didn't catch

660
00:35:36,780 --> 00:35:40,940
and I'm like hold on that
defense like you you looking he

661
00:35:40,940 --> 00:35:44,220
put some people on some skates
man like so you know he he

662
00:35:44,220 --> 00:35:46,980
definitely I think the route
concept is going to be different

663
00:35:46,980 --> 00:35:49,580
this year which we need it you
know what I'm saying Like you

664
00:35:49,580 --> 00:35:51,910
can't just run it.
You can't just run a go route.

665
00:35:52,270 --> 00:35:55,710
You got you got to have some
stuff different and it all ties

666
00:35:55,710 --> 00:35:58,350
into what we're saying.
When you talk about intermediate

667
00:35:58,350 --> 00:36:01,470
pass game, you talk about you
are set at the after the catch.

668
00:36:01,710 --> 00:36:03,830
When you talk about hitting,
laying on a bubble screen

669
00:36:03,830 --> 00:36:05,990
hitting laying on the slant, go
watch him.

670
00:36:05,990 --> 00:36:10,870
Against Miami last year, a lot
of the plays that he made was

671
00:36:10,870 --> 00:36:14,630
him making the play, making one
man miss and then beating

672
00:36:14,630 --> 00:36:17,510
everybody else to green to you
know green grass.

673
00:36:17,510 --> 00:36:22,010
So that's what we need to see.
That's what's going to take us

674
00:36:22,530 --> 00:36:26,050
to beating these teams that
we're supposed to beat and and

675
00:36:27,570 --> 00:36:30,610
by a lot of points and hanging
in there with some teams and

676
00:36:30,610 --> 00:36:35,850
beating them at the end of the
game. 100%, All right, I'm going

677
00:36:35,850 --> 00:36:39,410
to flip this up here.
Good question from one of our

678
00:36:39,890 --> 00:36:42,770
watchers tonight, Ellis Savage,
because we're going to talk to

679
00:36:42,770 --> 00:36:47,510
Brother Savage, Ellis Savage,
Ellis, how you go on that?

680
00:36:47,510 --> 00:36:51,550
Curtis Ellis, it's I watch BSBS
high as well.

681
00:36:51,910 --> 00:36:53,230
I don't think it's on Netflix
though.

682
00:36:53,230 --> 00:36:55,510
I think it's on.
I think it's on.

683
00:36:55,750 --> 00:36:59,430
Max, if I ain't mistaken and if
y'all hadn't watched that, you

684
00:36:59,430 --> 00:37:01,630
need to go watch it.
It's about that Bishop Sycamore

685
00:37:01,630 --> 00:37:06,190
stuff.
Man, that stuff is fucking nuts,

686
00:37:06,190 --> 00:37:08,350
man.
Like, I'm talking crazy.

687
00:37:08,870 --> 00:37:11,760
Like I can't even believe some
of the stuff I'll say.

688
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,240
But anyway, go ahead, Curtis.
First of all, I ain't got time.

689
00:37:14,240 --> 00:37:17,200
I got like 6 shows in the can.
I'm still catching up on.

690
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:23,840
And yes, he agreed it is HBO.
Max is bad, but let's talk about

691
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,840
We got to talk about the running
backroom in general.

692
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:30,520
But if y'all saw today with the
kick return, both Tooten and

693
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:34,760
Thomas are one of the two of the
three four kick returns.

694
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:36,800
Ellis.
Not a fan of that, clearly.

695
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,840
Y'all neither tally tally your
Aunt Tigler.

696
00:37:43,240 --> 00:37:45,600
You know, I'm not a big fan of
it either.

697
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,280
I would prefer.
So we got two.

698
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,680
Then Thomas, if you said one of
those was the kick returner

699
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:55,800
paired with somebody else as the
two maybe Thomas, let's say I'd

700
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,040
feel a little bit better.
I don't like that that both of

701
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,400
them are potentially out there
as the kick returner.

702
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:07,680
That gives me a little bit of
pause, but as far as especially

703
00:38:07,720 --> 00:38:10,760
up to see in Thomas's health
history.

704
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,560
Yeah, you know, just keeping it
real.

705
00:38:13,720 --> 00:38:16,120
Too was nicked in the spring
game he had a little nick to.

706
00:38:16,240 --> 00:38:19,280
Start a camp.
So I mean both of them have not

707
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,640
been obviously Thomas has had,
you know, historical health

708
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:26,560
problems you know too not so
much, but has been nicked in the

709
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,240
time that we've known him as a
hokey.

710
00:38:29,240 --> 00:38:32,160
So it definitely gives you a
little bit of pause to say, all

711
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,360
right, we got both started
running backs, one with injury

712
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:38,130
history.
We'll be doing here at the same

713
00:38:38,130 --> 00:38:40,370
time.
You want your two best back

714
00:38:40,370 --> 00:38:42,690
there.
If these are the two best, then

715
00:38:44,450 --> 00:38:45,490
you.
Know can we just put one at a

716
00:38:45,490 --> 00:38:48,050
time though, so there's no
chance both of them get hurt on

717
00:38:48,050 --> 00:38:49,610
the same leg.
That's all I had.

718
00:38:49,810 --> 00:38:51,810
I won't need nothing neither,
whatever you hurt at all, I.

719
00:38:51,850 --> 00:38:53,610
Won't need one of them get hurt,
but I don't need both of them

720
00:38:53,610 --> 00:38:56,690
getting hurt at the same time,
so just really take two running

721
00:38:56,690 --> 00:38:58,770
backs.
But let's also say this a lot of

722
00:38:58,770 --> 00:39:01,170
times with kick return, they'll
throw, they'll throw a depth

723
00:39:01,170 --> 00:39:03,530
chart out there and then when
you actually look at this.

724
00:39:03,690 --> 00:39:05,210
It's like this.
It's not the same.

725
00:39:05,530 --> 00:39:08,410
Well, another thing with me that
kind of threw me off is because

726
00:39:08,410 --> 00:39:12,850
I feel like this year we
actually have some pieces that

727
00:39:12,850 --> 00:39:16,450
can be back there.
Besides, you're starting running

728
00:39:16,450 --> 00:39:17,570
back, you know what I'm saying?
That's.

729
00:39:17,890 --> 00:39:22,130
True, whether you talk about
Cole BIC like what is he going

730
00:39:22,130 --> 00:39:23,530
to do with the didn't.
Bryce.

731
00:39:23,570 --> 00:39:26,770
Duke, have one last year.
Bryce, you know we got a.

732
00:39:26,810 --> 00:39:28,370
Big return last year he didn't
have.

733
00:39:28,370 --> 00:39:31,290
He didn't take it for the house,
but he got Jalen, Like you got a

734
00:39:31,290 --> 00:39:36,200
lot of people who we can, I feel
put back there and just see what

735
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:37,280
you're going to see, what we
get.

736
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,320
Yeah, Champ.
Champs Black was in that spot

737
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:40,120
last year.
A lot too.

738
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:44,400
So I mean, and I I kind of agree
with what Curtis is saying.

739
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,000
I don't think we see like you
put a depth chart out there, but

740
00:39:48,240 --> 00:39:51,000
who knows whose trots out there?
Hell, you know what I'm saying?

741
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,880
That's just, that's just to
make, you know what?

742
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:55,520
They got us talking about it,
right?

743
00:39:56,480 --> 00:40:02,000
They got Andy and David and
Bitter, I mean, and Barber and

744
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,200
everybody's tweeting about it.
We're talking about it.

745
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,520
Fine, but let's get to the
running back room in general.

746
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,760
Mr. Sigla, what are you got two
on here up front.

747
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,760
What are the two things you've
got to see Saturday night from

748
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:17,440
the running back room?
First thing I need to see get to

749
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,680
and involved in the passing game
early.

750
00:40:20,720 --> 00:40:25,240
We we saw with looking at the
tape from NCA&T like what what

751
00:40:25,240 --> 00:40:29,320
he can do.
I'm excited to see that in a

752
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,390
hokey jersey.
So get him involved in the past

753
00:40:32,390 --> 00:40:35,190
game early, get him in space,
let him make a couple guys miss.

754
00:40:36,110 --> 00:40:38,790
He's got good size, he's
elusive.

755
00:40:38,790 --> 00:40:40,510
He can, he's got some breakaway
speed.

756
00:40:40,510 --> 00:40:43,430
I just want to see this guy get
the ball in space, especially

757
00:40:43,430 --> 00:40:46,430
when we're still, you know, we
we want to establish the run

758
00:40:46,430 --> 00:40:48,990
game early, but we also want to
be able to generate yards

759
00:40:48,990 --> 00:40:51,510
without having to run between
the tackles all the time.

760
00:40:51,950 --> 00:40:54,950
Getting the ball to your running
back in space at the line of

761
00:40:54,950 --> 00:40:58,630
scrimmage can kind of give him
an opportunity to to get some

762
00:40:58,630 --> 00:41:01,410
yards.
Without having to, you know,

763
00:41:01,410 --> 00:41:03,890
stick their neck in there with
those big defensive tackles and

764
00:41:03,890 --> 00:41:09,530
linebackers, Yeah, I mean I get,
I get you on that.

765
00:41:09,850 --> 00:41:13,210
And I think the thing about the
tuning in the passing game too,

766
00:41:13,770 --> 00:41:17,690
again, and and I look forward,
it's going to be chances where

767
00:41:17,690 --> 00:41:21,090
if you're running a little RPO
where it's like a flare, that

768
00:41:21,090 --> 00:41:22,810
linebacker is going to void,
right?

769
00:41:22,970 --> 00:41:24,690
Because he's going to go with
tuning and it's there's going to

770
00:41:24,730 --> 00:41:26,750
be gaps.
There's going to be gaps up the

771
00:41:26,750 --> 00:41:28,190
middle.
Again, Grant's got to pull it

772
00:41:28,190 --> 00:41:30,710
and just say, you know what,
that's four yards right there.

773
00:41:30,710 --> 00:41:32,030
The safety's going to come crash
me.

774
00:41:32,030 --> 00:41:35,590
I'm going to get hit, but I'm
going to go it's second and six.

775
00:41:35,630 --> 00:41:38,830
Now we're third and two, right?
Right.

776
00:41:38,830 --> 00:41:40,710
There's going to be things like
that.

777
00:41:41,630 --> 00:41:46,190
Now another piece I'm looking
for is we know two and Thomas

778
00:41:46,190 --> 00:41:52,190
are wanting to two, clearly to
one and then clearly the two in

779
00:41:52,190 --> 00:41:55,730
more of a 1-2 punch.
As coach was saying today, I

780
00:41:55,730 --> 00:41:57,490
want to see what happens after
that.

781
00:41:58,410 --> 00:42:02,450
I want to see because we know
Coney's out coach.

782
00:42:02,770 --> 00:42:04,250
Coach Price said that today in
the press.

783
00:42:04,250 --> 00:42:07,330
So we will not see him.
He's been talking him up, but

784
00:42:07,330 --> 00:42:12,090
it's black and Duke and the
reason I say we've got to see

785
00:42:12,490 --> 00:42:15,650
who's the Next up, who do the
coaching staff have faith in,

786
00:42:15,770 --> 00:42:18,770
Because now I'm thinking six
months down the road who might

787
00:42:18,770 --> 00:42:23,130
be in the portal.
Yeah, yeah, definitely.

788
00:42:23,730 --> 00:42:26,900
Like you said, it's like.
You got Black and Duke in that

789
00:42:26,900 --> 00:42:29,500
room.
We've seen them make some plays

790
00:42:29,500 --> 00:42:34,820
on the field in games.
What are we going to see?

791
00:42:35,060 --> 00:42:36,260
You know what?
What?

792
00:42:36,740 --> 00:42:38,900
Who's going to be in?
Who's going to get some burn?

793
00:42:39,340 --> 00:42:41,620
How many points are we going to
score so we can see some of the

794
00:42:41,620 --> 00:42:44,940
second team people.
You know what I'm saying?

795
00:42:44,940 --> 00:42:49,740
Like in games, like what we
should see this weekend, we

796
00:42:49,740 --> 00:42:51,180
should go out and thrash this
team.

797
00:42:51,860 --> 00:42:55,220
So we can put the second team in
so people can see, and it might

798
00:42:55,220 --> 00:42:57,140
cause some controversy if
everybody goes out and plays

799
00:42:57,140 --> 00:42:58,860
great.
That's what we want everybody to

800
00:42:58,860 --> 00:43:01,820
do.
But you know, do we get to see

801
00:43:01,820 --> 00:43:05,340
drones play a lot of steps?
Do we get to see, you know,

802
00:43:05,340 --> 00:43:07,660
Bryce Duke get in and score a
touchdown?

803
00:43:07,660 --> 00:43:10,860
You know, I don't know.
But it all comes down to how

804
00:43:10,860 --> 00:43:14,020
much we're going to score to see
how much playing time those

805
00:43:14,020 --> 00:43:15,980
backups get.
Can I make a point?

806
00:43:15,980 --> 00:43:18,300
And we keep talking about it
over and over in game.

807
00:43:18,660 --> 00:43:22,560
We need to do this to get them
in game reps because as as

808
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,480
you've said before, Italian
Sigler, you said it to me plenty

809
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,000
of times.
Some guys are good in practice

810
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,080
and sometimes guys are okay and
then the lights turn on.

811
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,800
Some guys, when the lights turn
on, guys are great.

812
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,040
And the guys who's good in
practice, he actually ain't that

813
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:39,920
good because the moments are too
big.

814
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,960
Well, also let's talk about if
we're talking about drones too,

815
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,800
in this case with the running
game, that's somebody that

816
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,120
doesn't really get to be hit in
practice.

817
00:43:50,130 --> 00:43:52,650
So just being able to show what
he can do in the running game in

818
00:43:52,650 --> 00:43:57,570
a live game is going to show a
different degree of his

819
00:43:57,570 --> 00:44:00,370
playmaking ability that he's not
really able to show in practice.

820
00:44:00,370 --> 00:44:03,970
So outside of what he was able
to do with Baylor and things

821
00:44:03,970 --> 00:44:08,090
like that, we haven't seen what
those tools look like live, and

822
00:44:08,090 --> 00:44:09,890
the coaches haven't seen a ton
of it either.

823
00:44:09,890 --> 00:44:13,730
So you know, maybe that's a
difference maker in terms of how

824
00:44:14,090 --> 00:44:16,770
how we start the season versus
how we end the season for on

825
00:44:16,770 --> 00:44:19,580
that front.
So that's just something else to

826
00:44:19,580 --> 00:44:21,260
watch in the running game.
I know we're talking about

827
00:44:21,260 --> 00:44:24,380
running backs right now just but
but since we kind of very veered

828
00:44:24,380 --> 00:44:26,660
into the the Drones territory
again I wanted to make that

829
00:44:26,660 --> 00:44:28,460
point.
Well it's got to be talked about

830
00:44:28,460 --> 00:44:31,980
too because he he is a part of
the running game.

831
00:44:32,100 --> 00:44:33,500
They are.
They're both should be parts of

832
00:44:33,500 --> 00:44:37,020
the running game.
And again the the deeper you get

833
00:44:37,020 --> 00:44:43,620
into it is for me it it it would
stink if we go up like a really

834
00:44:43,620 --> 00:44:46,300
big score and then drones gets
all the run, but he gets all the

835
00:44:46,300 --> 00:44:49,710
runs with the lesser guys.
That to me that sucks.

836
00:44:49,910 --> 00:44:52,710
It's really good for them
because they're both younger

837
00:44:52,710 --> 00:44:56,590
guys.
You know where Malik, excuse me

838
00:44:56,590 --> 00:44:57,670
too.
He's a younger guy too.

839
00:44:57,670 --> 00:45:00,630
But you kind of want to see him
with the big guys too.

840
00:45:00,630 --> 00:45:02,750
That's why it's going to be very
important to them to drift them

841
00:45:02,750 --> 00:45:03,950
in.
All right.

842
00:45:04,070 --> 00:45:06,070
Let's talk about offensive line
next.

843
00:45:07,070 --> 00:45:09,350
And tally, I will start with you
on this one.

844
00:45:11,230 --> 00:45:14,550
What don't you want to see?
Stay on fucking sides.

845
00:45:16,390 --> 00:45:19,590
Don't just don't fall start,
man.

846
00:45:19,590 --> 00:45:22,710
I mean I can't remember one game
we like had eight of.

847
00:45:23,150 --> 00:45:26,710
I don't know how many we had.
I had all the boys here.

848
00:45:27,670 --> 00:45:31,190
You can't.
You can't win games like that.

849
00:45:31,390 --> 00:45:35,150
You know, you got to, you got to
stay on sides, you know, if any,

850
00:45:35,150 --> 00:45:37,670
if we're going to get any
penalty, I want to get a penalty

851
00:45:37,670 --> 00:45:40,350
of somebody like gouging
somebody's eyes when they got

852
00:45:40,350 --> 00:45:41,990
them on the ground or something,
you know what I'm saying?

853
00:45:42,470 --> 00:45:45,750
Yeah, just do something crazy
and get a a unsportsman like

854
00:45:45,750 --> 00:45:46,830
that.
Get nasty.

855
00:45:46,910 --> 00:45:49,270
You know what I'm saying?
Like stop jumping off sides and

856
00:45:49,270 --> 00:45:50,950
giving them an extra 5 yards.
You.

857
00:45:50,990 --> 00:45:53,830
Know getting penalized There
needs to be a finisher.

858
00:45:53,870 --> 00:45:55,270
They don't need free Snap.
Yeah, they.

859
00:45:55,870 --> 00:45:58,590
Got to be doing something.
They don't do this free like you

860
00:45:58,630 --> 00:46:01,150
ain't even get hit yet and we
already giving them yards.

861
00:46:01,150 --> 00:46:07,470
So no, no unforced.
Yeah, No unforced stuff.

862
00:46:08,030 --> 00:46:10,340
Yeah.
And I mean, I'm a piggyback on

863
00:46:10,340 --> 00:46:11,740
that.
I mean, we're talking offensive

864
00:46:11,740 --> 00:46:14,300
line here.
This is the ODU team that lost

865
00:46:14,300 --> 00:46:18,900
most of their defensive front.
They're almost completely brand

866
00:46:18,900 --> 00:46:21,740
new on both sides of the ball
this year.

867
00:46:22,980 --> 00:46:25,620
There's no reason that we
shouldn't average 5 yards per

868
00:46:25,620 --> 00:46:28,420
carry against this team.
Combined quarterbacks and

869
00:46:28,420 --> 00:46:32,500
running backs?
I don't think that's.

870
00:46:32,850 --> 00:46:35,370
That's something we can
necessarily aspire to for a

871
00:46:35,370 --> 00:46:37,650
season outlook.
I think we can take more baby

872
00:46:37,650 --> 00:46:40,850
steps on that regard, but
against this opponent, 5 yards

873
00:46:40,850 --> 00:46:43,730
per carry should be a good team
average.

874
00:46:44,490 --> 00:46:48,370
Yeah, at least.
Need to see some big runs.

875
00:46:48,410 --> 00:46:51,690
Need to see some big holes?
Yeah, And that's the thing I'm

876
00:46:51,690 --> 00:46:53,890
going to be looking for.
And again, Sigler's going to be

877
00:46:53,890 --> 00:46:56,570
over at the house Saturday night
watching the game with me.

878
00:46:56,570 --> 00:46:59,010
I'm going to be bugging the crap
out of him because we know

879
00:46:59,010 --> 00:47:01,390
Crooks teaches different coaches
different.

880
00:47:01,470 --> 00:47:03,150
It's going to be a slightly
different style.

881
00:47:05,190 --> 00:47:07,510
So the question is how do the
run concepts look?

882
00:47:07,550 --> 00:47:09,470
How do they look different than
last year?

883
00:47:09,510 --> 00:47:12,150
Is it better technique?
And I was listening to the

884
00:47:12,150 --> 00:47:15,630
Crooks interview from last week
and excuse me, listen to his

885
00:47:15,630 --> 00:47:17,950
interview, didn't listen to
Xavier Chaplin's interview.

886
00:47:17,950 --> 00:47:21,910
And it was a mention that Xavier
talked about how Coach Crook

887
00:47:21,910 --> 00:47:23,550
doesn't try to correct him
practice.

888
00:47:24,270 --> 00:47:25,750
He doesn't try to correct him
practice.

889
00:47:26,270 --> 00:47:28,190
He gets it on tape.
He gets there in the film room.

890
00:47:28,190 --> 00:47:30,390
You're staring at it.
That's where he starts coaching

891
00:47:30,390 --> 00:47:32,110
you up.
And I was.

892
00:47:32,150 --> 00:47:34,550
I was going back and forth, I
sent Robbie a message.

893
00:47:34,550 --> 00:47:38,990
I sent both of y'all and y'all
kind of elaborate how that can

894
00:47:38,990 --> 00:47:44,550
help an offensive lineman
because to me, the answers Y'all

895
00:47:44,550 --> 00:47:46,030
gave were great.
So I'm going to let y'all kind

896
00:47:46,030 --> 00:47:49,910
of speak on those a little bit.
So I think like my basketball

897
00:47:49,910 --> 00:47:54,710
coach did it best, he would take
a practice, but it would be like

898
00:47:54,710 --> 00:47:58,340
a, you know?
Pregame practice day before a

899
00:47:58,340 --> 00:48:01,020
game or something and we'd be
scrimmaging.

900
00:48:01,580 --> 00:48:03,740
He would set a camera up and he
would sit down.

901
00:48:04,540 --> 00:48:06,260
You know the plays, you know the
plays.

902
00:48:06,260 --> 00:48:08,700
Talking about the two teams, go
run your plays.

903
00:48:09,420 --> 00:48:12,620
He wouldn't say nothing.
Tape doesn't lie.

904
00:48:12,660 --> 00:48:14,780
That's what he said.
If I come to you and tell you,

905
00:48:14,780 --> 00:48:18,940
hey, you ain't giving me full
effort, then you're going to say

906
00:48:19,020 --> 00:48:22,100
in your mind I'm going as hard
as I can coach, but then you

907
00:48:22,100 --> 00:48:23,660
look at it on tape and you
loafing.

908
00:48:24,750 --> 00:48:26,630
Then I can coach you.
You know what I'm saying?

909
00:48:26,990 --> 00:48:30,190
Tape does not lie.
What What you put on tape is

910
00:48:30,190 --> 00:48:34,870
what I see is what the fancy is,
what is what you're doing.

911
00:48:34,910 --> 00:48:37,270
You know what I'm saying?
That tape's going to show us

912
00:48:37,270 --> 00:48:42,270
what plays you're taking off.
So that's a good, a good teacher

913
00:48:42,390 --> 00:48:45,030
to show you, you know, when what
you're doing.

914
00:48:46,230 --> 00:48:47,910
I got you on tape.
You're here.

915
00:48:47,910 --> 00:48:49,350
I'm here.
Let's correct it now.

916
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,520
Yeah, I'm with that too.
That that's exactly what the the

917
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,080
mindset that I was thinking
there.

918
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,600
When you look at practice, you
got a finite amount of time and

919
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,520
practice to get through
everything you need to get to,

920
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:06,400
right.
So you're meeting anyway, you're

921
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,520
you already got the time
scheduled in the meeting room.

922
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,600
I'm going to do my correcting in
the meeting room where I've got

923
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:16,280
something I can point to and say
here's what you did, I can pull

924
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,360
other cut out, cut ups together
and say here's what you should

925
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,850
be doing.
I can do that, get that visual

926
00:49:22,850 --> 00:49:28,610
there and and make sure that
what I saw on the field is

927
00:49:28,610 --> 00:49:31,770
actually what happened.
Because sometimes we see stuff

928
00:49:31,770 --> 00:49:35,170
in real time and it looks either
better or worse than it actually

929
00:49:35,170 --> 00:49:37,370
is, right?
We can look at the film, watch

930
00:49:37,370 --> 00:49:40,690
it two or three times, maybe
four or five times, and kind of

931
00:49:40,690 --> 00:49:44,570
really dive in and and break
down what each individual player

932
00:49:44,570 --> 00:49:47,850
did across the line.
We'll have a better idea of what

933
00:49:47,850 --> 00:49:49,850
went wrong and what went right
on that play.

934
00:49:50,660 --> 00:49:53,140
Seeing that one time in real
time and trying to correct that,

935
00:49:53,140 --> 00:49:55,380
you might be correct in things
that you don't need to correct

936
00:49:56,220 --> 00:49:59,020
and you might miss something
that you know you can correct

937
00:49:59,020 --> 00:50:01,540
later.
So it's just a better use of

938
00:50:01,540 --> 00:50:05,940
time in my opinion, approaching
it from that perspective in one

939
00:50:05,940 --> 00:50:07,340
piece.
Tally, you didn't say, I'm going

940
00:50:07,340 --> 00:50:10,620
to say what you said here, he
wants them to play, not think

941
00:50:11,700 --> 00:50:15,100
and I think let's go last year
we talked about those false

942
00:50:15,100 --> 00:50:18,290
starts.
Y'all, you said it numerous

943
00:50:18,290 --> 00:50:20,730
times on Twitter.
Segler said it on his program.

944
00:50:21,250 --> 00:50:23,210
We fought too much playing
offensive line.

945
00:50:23,850 --> 00:50:26,770
Your job on offensive line and
and tally you were in inland

946
00:50:26,770 --> 00:50:29,530
tight in what's your job what's
your.

947
00:50:29,570 --> 00:50:32,730
Job, you got to go hit, you got
to block, you got to find

948
00:50:32,730 --> 00:50:35,010
somebody, you got.
To find somebody you cannot

949
00:50:35,410 --> 00:50:38,970
think, you cannot think.
And I think, and I think it's

950
00:50:38,970 --> 00:50:42,250
the time and two with Crook
being hired because he's been

951
00:50:42,250 --> 00:50:44,730
doing this for a long time, you
know, I'm sure he's had all kind

952
00:50:44,730 --> 00:50:46,940
of.
Different personalities and

953
00:50:46,940 --> 00:50:51,420
attitudes that he's coached.
With him being hired so late in

954
00:50:51,420 --> 00:50:56,100
the process, he had to learn
what he had pretty quick and

955
00:50:56,100 --> 00:50:59,940
he's still learning.
So certain kids, you can't push

956
00:50:59,940 --> 00:51:04,260
them at certain points.
Like a game.

957
00:51:04,580 --> 00:51:07,820
I might lose you if I say, like
if I get on your ass, you know

958
00:51:07,820 --> 00:51:09,820
what I'm saying?
It's kind of like I'm with my

959
00:51:09,820 --> 00:51:11,980
son in baseball.
It's only certain times where I

960
00:51:11,980 --> 00:51:15,390
really can.
Get to him and say what I need

961
00:51:15,390 --> 00:51:16,750
to say.
I just got to let especially

962
00:51:16,750 --> 00:51:19,990
when he's hitting, I just got to
let him hit, you know what I'm

963
00:51:20,230 --> 00:51:22,350
saying.
And then if he, if he, if he

964
00:51:22,350 --> 00:51:26,030
gets under the ball or if he
does something, he'll come ask

965
00:51:26,030 --> 00:51:29,230
me what I did, what did I do?
But guess what I'm using

966
00:51:29,230 --> 00:51:31,270
recording it.
I'm using recording and I'm

967
00:51:31,270 --> 00:51:33,990
going you keep opening your
front side you know your front

968
00:51:33,990 --> 00:51:36,950
shoulder is popping up your back
shoulder is dipping too quick so

969
00:51:36,950 --> 00:51:40,350
you're popping the ball up.
You know you got he's learning

970
00:51:40,350 --> 00:51:43,350
what his kids can do during
these.

971
00:51:43,710 --> 00:51:46,070
Fall camp and a little bit of
summer that he's been there.

972
00:51:46,510 --> 00:51:51,030
I think that that's why he's had
that kind of approach that he's

973
00:51:51,030 --> 00:51:55,670
had because the last thing he
wants to do is him to go, hey,

974
00:51:55,670 --> 00:51:58,230
you ain't blocking nobody and
then this kid's in a funk the

975
00:51:58,230 --> 00:52:01,790
rest of practice.
And so now I've wasted a whole

976
00:52:01,790 --> 00:52:05,350
practice and we don't have many
practices before this game.

977
00:52:05,710 --> 00:52:08,030
Now I think we, of course, and
being a coach, you're going to

978
00:52:08,030 --> 00:52:11,830
see him coaching, you know, into
the game and into the season.

979
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,000
He's going to handle that a
little bit different during the

980
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:18,720
games than he has, but I think
he had to do this getting up

981
00:52:18,720 --> 00:52:21,080
until the getting ready for the
season.

982
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:22,920
Yeah.
And then you also got, you know

983
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,480
GA's and other other members of
the staff that.

984
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:30,040
And as groups are rotating in
and out, like when you go from

985
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,920
the ones to the twos, twos to
the threes, you know they're,

986
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,280
they're going to the side and
saying all right on this play

987
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,600
you might have did this and
they're giving those like micro

988
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,760
corrections as they're going
along.

989
00:52:41,830 --> 00:52:44,350
You know, the crook's probably,
you know, over there watching

990
00:52:44,350 --> 00:52:47,390
the big line, you got those guys
giving those minor corrections.

991
00:52:47,630 --> 00:52:49,670
But what you're also not doing
in that case, you're not calling

992
00:52:49,670 --> 00:52:51,030
the guy out in front of the
whole team.

993
00:52:51,190 --> 00:52:55,350
You know, you're not stopping
the flow of practice just to

994
00:52:55,790 --> 00:52:58,230
just to make that correction.
So you're being more efficient.

995
00:52:58,470 --> 00:53:02,270
You're still getting those
corrections done during the

996
00:53:02,270 --> 00:53:04,710
practice, just not by crook
directly.

997
00:53:04,710 --> 00:53:07,270
And then you're getting crook
diving into the tape and

998
00:53:07,270 --> 00:53:09,430
pointing out those corrections
and how to make those.

999
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,600
Those changes going forward,
absolutely.

1000
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,640
The one last piece and and this
and I'm going to just put this

1001
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:17,360
on here and we're not going to
say anything else before we flip

1002
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,520
to the next one.
Don't play down, don't play

1003
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:24,120
down, go play, go attack, go
drive them out of the way.

1004
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,880
And I'll always say this, make
them not want to be on that

1005
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,760
field come to third quarter like
like I don't coach, I don't want

1006
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:32,920
to go back out there.
They keep hitting us.

1007
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:36,570
They keep slinging us.
Xavier's driving me and riding

1008
00:53:36,570 --> 00:53:40,690
me to the ground and putting 330
pounds on me every time and he

1009
00:53:40,690 --> 00:53:44,250
slapped in my head afterwards.
That's what I want.

1010
00:53:44,410 --> 00:53:46,930
Don't play down to this team
real quick.

1011
00:53:47,530 --> 00:53:49,450
Before we go to break, we're
going to talk about special

1012
00:53:49,450 --> 00:53:51,970
teams.
We got a couple pet peeves here.

1013
00:53:51,970 --> 00:53:54,730
I'm going to start with mine.
I want to see Peter Moore from

1014
00:53:54,730 --> 00:53:58,130
two years ago when Peter Moore
used to boom punts.

1015
00:53:58,490 --> 00:54:02,330
You know, I think that I think
having a new special teams coach

1016
00:54:02,330 --> 00:54:08,050
is definitely, you know, one of
those things you see can

1017
00:54:08,050 --> 00:54:10,810
definitely take it on.
But Peter Moore went from

1018
00:54:10,810 --> 00:54:16,530
averaging almost 45 a punt last
year to under 42, three.

1019
00:54:16,890 --> 00:54:20,570
Some people say, well, what's 3
yards, 3 yards over the course

1020
00:54:20,570 --> 00:54:24,250
of the seasons is a couple
football fields and that's a lot

1021
00:54:24,250 --> 00:54:27,290
of field position.
And I understand when you change

1022
00:54:27,290 --> 00:54:31,330
coaches things can happen.
But I all say Stew Holt's always

1023
00:54:31,330 --> 00:54:35,300
been a good special teams coach
wherever he's been, so hopefully

1024
00:54:35,740 --> 00:54:38,540
it's the season of Gellin.
He gets back to booming them and

1025
00:54:38,540 --> 00:54:41,980
we can pin some people deep.
Sigla, what you got?

1026
00:54:43,300 --> 00:54:45,860
So we got a new place kicker, We
got John Love in there.

1027
00:54:47,460 --> 00:54:49,820
All I want to see is no misses
inside 40 man.

1028
00:54:50,420 --> 00:54:55,260
Consistently make those those
not gimmies, but very makeable

1029
00:54:55,260 --> 00:54:57,100
kicks.
If you make all of your makeable

1030
00:54:57,100 --> 00:55:00,500
kicks, then you know we'll see
what happens.

1031
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:05,000
You know, outside of 40, Outside
of 50, it sounds like love may

1032
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:09,600
not be taking the the long
kicks, but pretty much anything

1033
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:12,280
probably inside of 50 is going
to be his territory.

1034
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:14,800
And if it's inside of 40, I need
that to be pretty much

1035
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,880
automatic.
All right, Tally, what's your

1036
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:25,760
one Piece home?
Listen, good execution, whoever.

1037
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:30,150
I don't need to know.
Dante Ramanovich or whoever the

1038
00:55:30,150 --> 00:55:33,710
fucking long snapper is, I don't
even need to know your name.

1039
00:55:34,470 --> 00:55:35,830
I don't need to know your
number.

1040
00:55:36,190 --> 00:55:38,030
I don't need to know what high
school you came from.

1041
00:55:38,670 --> 00:55:41,790
Because if I know too much about
you, that means you've done

1042
00:55:41,790 --> 00:55:45,430
something wrong.
If you snapped this ball over

1043
00:55:45,430 --> 00:55:48,910
that kicker's head and they get
a touchdown on it, you need to

1044
00:55:48,910 --> 00:55:51,150
get on that bus and go back to
Norfolk with them.

1045
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,800
Like you, you just can't do it.
You cannot do it.

1046
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,680
This year, we don't need to give
up any points on special team

1047
00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:59,800
that we don't have.
No business giving up good

1048
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:01,680
execution.
No matter if it's on punt,

1049
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:06,800
kickoff, field goal, whatever.
Just go do your job.

1050
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:09,680
If your job is to snap, just
snap.

1051
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:11,520
If your job's to hold, just
hold.

1052
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:13,880
Don't hold, but thank it don't
do.

1053
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,640
This that child said no.
No taps to go from Norfolk to

1054
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:20,760
Newport News this time.
Come on now.

1055
00:56:21,310 --> 00:56:23,950
All right.
So there it is offensive and a

1056
00:56:23,950 --> 00:56:25,710
little bit of special teams
there.

1057
00:56:25,950 --> 00:56:28,750
When we come back from our break
from our digital partners and

1058
00:56:28,750 --> 00:56:31,590
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partners, we are going to talk

1059
00:56:31,590 --> 00:56:36,590
about the defense.
I can probably save you a lot of

1060
00:56:36,590 --> 00:56:38,510
money and I can take a lot
better care of you.

1061
00:56:39,070 --> 00:56:41,900
That's pretty much it.
My name is Jeremy Counts and I'm

1062
00:56:41,900 --> 00:56:44,100
a pharmacist.
I want to operate Main Street

1063
00:56:44,100 --> 00:56:45,620
Pharmacy here in downtown
Blacksburg.

1064
00:56:45,980 --> 00:56:47,820
My brother's A pharmacist.
I'm a pharmacist.

1065
00:56:47,820 --> 00:56:49,580
My uncle's A pharmacist.
My dad's a pharmacist.

1066
00:56:49,820 --> 00:56:52,780
I remember he would give me
M&M's to count in little pill

1067
00:56:52,780 --> 00:56:54,620
counters.
This is something I've always

1068
00:56:54,620 --> 00:56:58,500
done, and I'm just lucky that
what I know so well is something

1069
00:56:58,500 --> 00:57:00,940
that I can do and feel good
about it and get back to people.

1070
00:57:01,780 --> 00:57:03,460
Pharmacies are your frontline
defense.

1071
00:57:03,660 --> 00:57:06,740
Pharmacy's job is to make sure
you're getting optimal care for

1072
00:57:06,740 --> 00:57:10,190
the lowest price possible.
Also, we take the pressure off

1073
00:57:10,230 --> 00:57:12,310
of emergency rooms.
I'll tell people immediately

1074
00:57:12,310 --> 00:57:14,110
when they need to go to the
doctor, or I'll tell them if

1075
00:57:14,110 --> 00:57:15,710
they just need a cream over the
counter.

1076
00:57:15,910 --> 00:57:18,710
If there's something that isn't
commercially available, if it's

1077
00:57:18,710 --> 00:57:21,390
something that's not available
in a certain strength or a

1078
00:57:21,390 --> 00:57:24,110
certain form or anything like
that, we'll make it tailor made

1079
00:57:24,110 --> 00:57:25,870
medications.
Some of those options save

1080
00:57:25,870 --> 00:57:27,750
people a lot of money.
What motivates me?

1081
00:57:27,830 --> 00:57:30,590
I get to take care of people in
Limit Blacksburg, I thought.

1082
00:57:30,590 --> 00:57:34,910
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Now back to the episode.
All righty and we are back, and

1090
00:57:57,530 --> 00:57:58,890
we're going to talk a little
defense.

1091
00:57:58,890 --> 00:58:02,050
Before we talk defense, I I got
to agree, Andretti's been

1092
00:58:02,050 --> 00:58:04,530
putting stuff up here.
I haven't had a chance to get to

1093
00:58:04,530 --> 00:58:06,970
it.
But yes, I think we all.

1094
00:58:06,970 --> 00:58:09,990
Want to ask?
I don't know if y'all been

1095
00:58:09,990 --> 00:58:12,470
watching and really been coming
on strong like the last three

1096
00:58:12,470 --> 00:58:13,550
weeks.
Yes, he has.

1097
00:58:15,230 --> 00:58:17,550
He's put some good stuff and
then we get off the topic and I

1098
00:58:17,550 --> 00:58:14,550
see, yeah, tonight I won't.
And I and.

1099
00:58:19,390 --> 00:58:22,070
Yeah, because we do want a nasty
ass defense.

1100
00:58:22,070 --> 00:58:26,190
We do want some lockdown
corners, We want an edge, we

1101
00:58:26,190 --> 00:58:29,270
want an X man there.
So that's.

1102
00:58:29,830 --> 00:58:32,030
For you right there, buddy.
Oh, that's some names.

1103
00:58:32,070 --> 00:58:35,790
That's some names right there.
So all three of those guys play

1104
00:58:35,790 --> 00:58:38,500
live.
All three of those guys, they

1105
00:58:38,500 --> 00:58:40,900
were all.
One of them, one of them been on

1106
00:58:40,900 --> 00:58:43,140
the show.
One of them been on this show.

1107
00:58:43,140 --> 00:58:45,420
Yes, he has.
That man in the middle down tap

1108
00:58:45,420 --> 00:58:49,540
has been on this show.
But let's talk about the defense

1109
00:58:49,540 --> 00:58:52,580
boys and let's talk about the
defensive line.

1110
00:58:53,140 --> 00:58:55,780
And I'm gonna throw a little
stats at y'all.

1111
00:58:55,780 --> 00:58:57,540
I'm gonna let y'all jump off of
it from here.

1112
00:58:58,060 --> 00:59:02,180
So last year, Hokies averaged
just over 2 sacks per game.

1113
00:59:02,180 --> 00:59:03,620
Y'all me how?
With the ODU game?

1114
00:59:03,620 --> 00:59:05,180
How?
Many.

1115
00:59:05,180 --> 00:59:10,300
We got 111.
We had one sack last year.

1116
00:59:10,340 --> 00:59:14,660
And they were not in that game.
I think we've got to have the

1117
00:59:14,740 --> 00:59:19,860
defensive line set it off and I
think tally you, you've been

1118
00:59:19,860 --> 00:59:21,660
bringing him up, you've been
looking at him.

1119
00:59:21,940 --> 00:59:25,260
You know who it is.
Yeah, Power Rollin, man.

1120
00:59:25,340 --> 00:59:29,300
I mean, we need him to be
disruptive with everybody knows.

1121
00:59:29,300 --> 00:59:31,300
I mean, what what have we seen
on the tape?

1122
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:33,960
The spin move like.
The.

1123
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:39,720
First time that I see that spin
move used in a game and work, I

1124
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:44,240
might have to buy a new TVI,
might knock my TV down, You know

1125
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:46,040
what I'm saying?
Because it's been a while since

1126
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:50,120
we've had, you know, a defensive
lineman, a defensive end in

1127
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:54,120
particular, just be dominant,
you know, or just, you know,

1128
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,400
show us something like that.
So, and we've had some good

1129
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:00,760
defensive end and not taken away
from anybody that we've had, but

1130
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:03,330
just to.
You know get to that.

1131
01:00:03,330 --> 01:00:07,610
I think somebody said on one of
our other on our other shows

1132
01:00:07,610 --> 01:00:11,370
maybe it was the, the.
Dwight Preview Yeah, we were

1133
01:00:11,370 --> 01:00:14,810
talking about who's the last
person to have 10 sacks, but it

1134
01:00:14,810 --> 01:00:18,210
was Kenny Cannon.
Like, that's a long time ago,

1135
01:00:18,210 --> 01:00:21,690
you know what I'm saying?
So where you get those?

1136
01:00:21,890 --> 01:00:24,530
10 years at this point we're
pushing 10 years where you get

1137
01:00:24,530 --> 01:00:27,770
those sacks, that is.
I mean, yeah, you want to get

1138
01:00:27,770 --> 01:00:31,660
some sacks against Florida
State, but when you play teams

1139
01:00:31,660 --> 01:00:36,060
like Waffle, then you play teams
like ODU, you go and pad your

1140
01:00:36,060 --> 01:00:38,660
fucking stats.
If you can beat that man in

1141
01:00:38,660 --> 01:00:40,380
front of you, you go beat him
every play.

1142
01:00:40,780 --> 01:00:43,180
You get to that quarterback,
every play if you can.

1143
01:00:43,660 --> 01:00:45,980
So go out there and get you 2,
1/2, three sacks.

1144
01:00:46,100 --> 01:00:49,060
That's what I want to see.
Yeah, yeah, I think that

1145
01:00:49,060 --> 01:00:51,140
definitely need to see a big
game for Pal Ryland right at the

1146
01:00:51,140 --> 01:00:54,500
gate and I think we need to see
some some big things from these

1147
01:00:54,500 --> 01:00:56,980
other three guys.
I think we need to see Burgos

1148
01:00:56,980 --> 01:00:59,850
name the starter.
This week.

1149
01:01:00,330 --> 01:01:02,610
Today, I'm surprised by that a
little bit.

1150
01:01:02,690 --> 01:01:03,210
I ain't gonna.
Lie.

1151
01:01:03,210 --> 01:01:06,530
That's that's big surprise.
Yeah, because that that tells me

1152
01:01:06,530 --> 01:01:10,250
that the level of play, not
counting APR, has also been

1153
01:01:10,250 --> 01:01:12,810
leveled up, right?
Because we saw Nelson last year,

1154
01:01:12,810 --> 01:01:15,930
we saw McCray last year, we
didn't see Burgos last year and

1155
01:01:15,930 --> 01:01:18,490
we did Burgo.
Burgos is taking significant

1156
01:01:18,490 --> 01:01:21,850
snaps away from those two.
That tells me that we have

1157
01:01:21,850 --> 01:01:25,130
leveled up based on what we
already had on the roster before

1158
01:01:25,130 --> 01:01:27,650
APR got here.
I don't think I called his name,

1159
01:01:28,050 --> 01:01:30,650
but I think he was on the BMF
awards.

1160
01:01:30,650 --> 01:01:33,490
Yes, he was on the yes, I think
his number.

1161
01:01:33,730 --> 01:01:37,850
I think his number stood out on
the BMF awards.

1162
01:01:38,090 --> 01:01:39,410
Yeah.
And I think we know a little bit

1163
01:01:39,410 --> 01:01:43,130
more why a guy like Kyrie Boyson
decided to move on, right?

1164
01:01:43,850 --> 01:01:47,570
Because I, you know, we we
talked about him maybe being

1165
01:01:47,570 --> 01:01:50,370
like the fourth or fifth guy,
you know, depending on what

1166
01:01:50,370 --> 01:01:52,170
Burgers did.
But if Burgers is leveling up

1167
01:01:52,170 --> 01:01:54,570
like that, I mean that's that's
big man.

1168
01:01:54,570 --> 01:01:55,980
And then?
You know, you know you're gonna

1169
01:01:55,980 --> 01:01:59,420
get solid play from from Nelson.
You know that Mccray's gonna be

1170
01:01:59,420 --> 01:02:03,060
able to to flash from time to
time he's put on some more size.

1171
01:02:03,060 --> 01:02:05,980
So you know I'm excited to see
what they can do.

1172
01:02:05,980 --> 01:02:08,900
But coach process today, when
when Burgos is in there with

1173
01:02:08,900 --> 01:02:12,820
APR, they just make more plays.
They make more plays.

1174
01:02:13,510 --> 01:02:15,270
Hey, somebody put that put this
up right here.

1175
01:02:15,270 --> 01:02:17,950
What low country just put?
In hello country, all right.

1176
01:02:17,950 --> 01:02:19,590
Put that.
You gonna make him on it?

1177
01:02:19,790 --> 01:02:23,590
Put that up.
If he has 12, actually we've

1178
01:02:23,590 --> 01:02:27,110
been it's been a decade for
since we've seen 10.

1179
01:02:27,550 --> 01:02:31,550
If he gets 12 low country, we
sending you, we sending you some

1180
01:02:31,550 --> 01:02:34,390
merchandise.
If if he gets 12, then Curtis's

1181
01:02:34,390 --> 01:02:38,550
prediction of eight's definitely
coming out, yeah.

1182
01:02:39,260 --> 01:02:41,300
Yeah, he is 12.
The eight's definitely coming

1183
01:02:41,300 --> 01:02:43,900
out because they ain't going to
know how to game plan for us.

1184
01:02:44,460 --> 01:02:48,740
But we keep talking about that
line and stuff and the what I'm

1185
01:02:48,740 --> 01:02:52,500
looking for Saturday night, we
can get one that that'll be just

1186
01:02:52,500 --> 01:02:56,260
fine, just fine.
No, we need more than that.

1187
01:02:56,260 --> 01:02:58,580
But go ahead, Curtis.
Listen to me, Listen to me.

1188
01:02:58,580 --> 01:03:03,660
Theory, man.
That first pop, he gets hit

1189
01:03:03,660 --> 01:03:05,300
hard.
Grant Wilson back there, He gets

1190
01:03:05,300 --> 01:03:07,980
hit hard the rest of the night.
He's short.

1191
01:03:07,980 --> 01:03:09,780
Arming it.
No relationship, OK, OK.

1192
01:03:09,820 --> 01:03:11,300
Short arming.
It He's sailing it.

1193
01:03:11,580 --> 01:03:14,860
So you telling me Grant Wilson's
gonna turn to Grant Wells from

1194
01:03:14,860 --> 01:03:17,620
last year?
If if Apr hits that spin move,

1195
01:03:17,820 --> 01:03:21,340
it hits them hard the first time
that kid ain't gonna know what

1196
01:03:21,340 --> 01:03:23,700
to do with the ball.
He's gonna know is I'll tell.

1197
01:03:23,780 --> 01:03:25,540
He's got, I'll tell you.
Something after me fast.

1198
01:03:25,580 --> 01:03:27,060
I'm getting rid of this thing
quick.

1199
01:03:27,140 --> 01:03:29,700
Hey, I will take one second.
Four picks all day.

1200
01:03:29,820 --> 01:03:32,900
You gag them, right?
I would take 4 picks all day.

1201
01:03:33,180 --> 01:03:35,100
But it's setting.
But I agree with you, right?

1202
01:03:35,100 --> 01:03:37,240
I agree.
It's the tone.

1203
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:38,840
We go out there and have five
sex.

1204
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:41,240
Great.
We're going, we're going to know

1205
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:42,840
about it.
They're not.

1206
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:44,560
They're going to be behind the
chains all night.

1207
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:47,240
If we don't, if they're
constantly getting rid of it, if

1208
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:50,120
it's constant pressure, if
they're constantly worried about

1209
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:54,080
what's happening, then you know,
that's what we got to see.

1210
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:56,960
And then let's talk about the
inside guys.

1211
01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:58,680
You know, they're they've got
them five there.

1212
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:03,680
Darius Payne did make the 2 deep
with Wilfred Penne.

1213
01:04:04,690 --> 01:04:08,610
We didn't see any young guys.
These are all older, you know,

1214
01:04:09,770 --> 01:04:13,330
Pain might be able to come back
one more year because of the

1215
01:04:13,330 --> 01:04:15,090
Achilles.
He might be able to do a medical

1216
01:04:15,090 --> 01:04:18,290
red shirt.
Panay's back and Fuga's back

1217
01:04:18,290 --> 01:04:20,450
next year, guaranteed.
But the two guys who kind of

1218
01:04:20,450 --> 01:04:23,570
lead that unit in Kendrickson
Pollard are gone.

1219
01:04:24,130 --> 01:04:30,570
And you know, I think somebody,
somebody, and I don't know who

1220
01:04:30,570 --> 01:04:33,250
it's going to be, y'all got
anything about on the inside?

1221
01:04:33,250 --> 01:04:35,090
Who?
Who do y'all feel like y'all got

1222
01:04:35,090 --> 01:04:39,050
to see on the field this year at
D tackle at some point to start

1223
01:04:39,050 --> 01:04:42,650
doing things?
I mean, I don't, I don't just

1224
01:04:42,650 --> 01:04:45,730
have somebody that I would just
say I got to see, but I would

1225
01:04:45,730 --> 01:04:49,930
love to see a kid like Law, you
know what I'm saying?

1226
01:04:49,930 --> 01:04:56,810
Like I'd love to see him in just
sheer sizewise, but I don't know

1227
01:04:56,810 --> 01:04:58,690
if he's there yet.
You know, I haven't heard much

1228
01:04:58,690 --> 01:05:01,540
about him.
But when you start getting up in

1229
01:05:01,540 --> 01:05:03,900
games and you're able to play
some young people, you you never

1230
01:05:03,900 --> 01:05:07,020
know, You know, you may you may
get to see somebody get in and

1231
01:05:07,020 --> 01:05:10,700
get a tackle for a loss or just
make a tackle, you know, get a

1232
01:05:10,700 --> 01:05:13,300
game tackle in lane under the
lights.

1233
01:05:14,140 --> 01:05:16,660
You know what I'm saying?
You don't know what kind of

1234
01:05:16,660 --> 01:05:20,060
confidence that builds for the
rest of the season, you know,

1235
01:05:20,060 --> 01:05:23,500
just to be able to get in and
and and and show something.

1236
01:05:23,500 --> 01:05:26,980
So I'm going to be excited to
see who they rotate in.

1237
01:05:28,850 --> 01:05:30,410
Yeah, I'd be interested to see
what he does.

1238
01:05:30,410 --> 01:05:33,210
I'd be interested to see if a
guy like Malachi Madison makes

1239
01:05:33,210 --> 01:05:38,770
any makes any run this year.
Was he hurt, though?

1240
01:05:39,370 --> 01:05:41,890
Yeah.
Didn't he do something to his

1241
01:05:41,890 --> 01:05:42,810
knee?
Maybe.

1242
01:05:42,970 --> 01:05:47,050
Yeah, I couldn't see if he was
done for the year or what he was

1243
01:05:47,050 --> 01:05:50,770
done, but I can't remember guy,
guy like him, maybe getting some

1244
01:05:50,770 --> 01:05:54,650
run, you know, are we going to
see a gun or giving sight?

1245
01:05:54,650 --> 01:05:56,370
And if we get up, that's a good
name.

1246
01:05:56,570 --> 01:06:01,460
That's a good name.
I think some of y'all went out.

1247
01:06:01,460 --> 01:06:03,740
I think I went out.
What about Malachi?

1248
01:06:03,740 --> 01:06:08,460
Because Malachi was the guy last
year who flashed the most like

1249
01:06:08,460 --> 01:06:10,180
he was looking like he could do
something.

1250
01:06:10,180 --> 01:06:12,860
But we haven't heard his name in
a long time, right?

1251
01:06:12,860 --> 01:06:14,300
That's who Brian was just
talking about.

1252
01:06:14,300 --> 01:06:16,060
Malachi Madison.
Yeah.

1253
01:06:16,060 --> 01:06:17,100
I think that's when you went
out.

1254
01:06:17,100 --> 01:06:19,620
Brian was talking about him.
We were trying to remember if

1255
01:06:19,620 --> 01:06:21,340
he's hurt.
I thought something.

1256
01:06:21,620 --> 01:06:24,630
I thought he got hurt, like you
have a knee injury or something.

1257
01:06:24,870 --> 01:06:29,310
That might be the case in that,
but from this line on the

1258
01:06:29,310 --> 01:06:33,550
inside, I hope one young guy
flashes, if not the portals got

1259
01:06:33,550 --> 01:06:36,350
to be hit hard next year.
But I'm going to be interested

1260
01:06:36,550 --> 01:06:39,030
because they're keeping pain at
that D tackle position.

1261
01:06:39,030 --> 01:06:43,030
I'm wondering if there is some
sort of package that he's

1262
01:06:43,030 --> 01:06:47,270
staying in there for strictly
nickel situations because that

1263
01:06:47,270 --> 01:06:50,190
seems like to be the way.
And let's talk about nickel.

1264
01:06:50,190 --> 01:06:54,000
Hey yo, I'm so ecstatic boys.
We finally got a nickel on the

1265
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:55,080
death chart.
Like a truth.

1266
01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:58,800
If they literally say Derek
Canteen is going to be the

1267
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:02,280
nickel, y'all know how excited I
am for years.

1268
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:04,880
We need a nickel.
We need a guy who plays

1269
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:06,440
cornerback to play nickel
corner.

1270
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:09,040
I'm excited.
I think you're going to be a

1271
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:11,080
ball or two, man.
I think you'll have a good year.

1272
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:15,440
I mean, again, whenever you just
hear and I know it's football

1273
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:19,000
talk sometimes, but watching
that kid, the first time he

1274
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:24,350
steps in lane, he gets that tip
pass from Jalen Stroman and he

1275
01:07:24,350 --> 01:07:28,430
picks it off in the spring game,
like, dude, I think he's going

1276
01:07:28,430 --> 01:07:29,710
to be a baller.
Yep.

1277
01:07:30,030 --> 01:07:32,670
And now Speaking of Stroman,
that's one of the points I kind

1278
01:07:32,670 --> 01:07:35,270
of want to make about what I I'm
interested to see Saturday

1279
01:07:35,270 --> 01:07:39,790
night, because I want to see how
Chris Mark calls the game with

1280
01:07:39,790 --> 01:07:42,230
Stroman back in free safety,
because Stroman is a true free

1281
01:07:42,230 --> 01:07:43,870
safety.
I love Tamari Connor.

1282
01:07:44,230 --> 01:07:46,870
Tamari was a strong safety
playing free safety.

1283
01:07:46,870 --> 01:07:49,470
Was a nickel linebacker playing
free safety.

1284
01:07:49,900 --> 01:07:54,300
Jalen Stroman is a legit NFL
free safety.

1285
01:07:55,100 --> 01:07:56,660
Argue with me what you want to
say.

1286
01:07:56,980 --> 01:08:00,620
He is a NFL free safety.
You look at his body tight,

1287
01:08:01,340 --> 01:08:04,460
Jalen, 61, he's 200 pounds.
We know he hits.

1288
01:08:04,580 --> 01:08:07,700
We know his movement.
When you have somebody like

1289
01:08:07,820 --> 01:08:10,980
that, I always go back to
Kyshawn Jarrett.

1290
01:08:11,860 --> 01:08:14,780
Who Kyshawn was More of a box
safety, but is a little bit more

1291
01:08:14,780 --> 01:08:17,819
athletic when you have those
true free safeties.

1292
01:08:18,510 --> 01:08:19,710
Y'all can Y'all can attest to
it.

1293
01:08:19,990 --> 01:08:23,069
You can do a lot more upfront,
you can do a lot more schematic

1294
01:08:23,109 --> 01:08:27,149
because that guy's got this side
of the field to that side of the

1295
01:08:27,149 --> 01:08:30,470
field that he can get there.
Yeah, I mean we we saw it in the

1296
01:08:30,470 --> 01:08:32,830
spring game, man, with the
instincts to break on that ball

1297
01:08:32,830 --> 01:08:36,790
and get the tip.
I mean that you can't really

1298
01:08:36,790 --> 01:08:38,750
coach that.
That's just something that's,

1299
01:08:39,149 --> 01:08:44,910
you know, it's innate that that
type of intuition so.

1300
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:48,359
You know seeing him take the
next step this year I think it's

1301
01:08:48,359 --> 01:08:49,840
going to be big for this
defense.

1302
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:53,800
I want to see him make some of
them big plays like we saw in

1303
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:57,680
the spring game against ODU and
again at to Curtis's point

1304
01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:01,720
seeing how Marv calls that and
how how he's going to deploy his

1305
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:06,359
safeties in particular Stroman
in this game is is what I want

1306
01:09:06,359 --> 01:09:08,560
to see.
The other thing I want to see,

1307
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:11,880
since we're talking about
safeties is you know how much

1308
01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:15,160
run are are most and and Jalen
going to get?

1309
01:09:15,490 --> 01:09:17,810
They kind of in the in the 2D
over there because they too

1310
01:09:17,810 --> 01:09:19,810
deep, you know most looks like a
man.

1311
01:09:20,130 --> 01:09:22,370
Most looks like a man he's, you
know he's a freshman.

1312
01:09:22,370 --> 01:09:25,050
But he's he's he's, he's one of
them.

1313
01:09:25,090 --> 01:09:31,330
Them BMS we talked about and you
know Jalen switching sides of

1314
01:09:31,330 --> 01:09:34,210
the ball already, you know
jumping into the too deep making

1315
01:09:34,210 --> 01:09:36,810
some noise here.
I want to see number one.

1316
01:09:36,810 --> 01:09:39,490
I want to see them get some some
quality snaps #2 I want to see

1317
01:09:39,490 --> 01:09:42,750
what they do with them.
Yeah, the the two say Jalen

1318
01:09:42,750 --> 01:09:46,029
especially because there were
guys who were in that room that

1319
01:09:46,029 --> 01:09:49,109
had been defensive back to their
whole life and that's what they

1320
01:09:49,109 --> 01:09:53,550
got recruited for.
He's the 2 deep guy that tells

1321
01:09:53,550 --> 01:09:56,470
you and they talked about he
took them into mentality.

1322
01:09:57,350 --> 01:09:59,550
He took that competitive
mentality and ran with it.

1323
01:09:59,550 --> 01:10:00,830
Tally, what are you looking for,
man?

1324
01:10:01,710 --> 01:10:04,870
I mean, what killed us last
year?

1325
01:10:04,870 --> 01:10:07,110
When we think about ODU, you
know.

1326
01:10:07,350 --> 01:10:14,340
Ollie Jennings, you have a girl.
You have a pretty good game on

1327
01:10:14,340 --> 01:10:18,100
defense Until what?
The last series, maybe the next

1328
01:10:18,100 --> 01:10:22,060
to the last series, and you get
big play here, we're going to

1329
01:10:22,060 --> 01:10:25,020
just throw one up and our
cornerback gets turned around

1330
01:10:25,020 --> 01:10:28,580
and Alan Jennings, you know,
catches a deep pass on us.

1331
01:10:28,580 --> 01:10:30,100
That gets them to about the
five.

1332
01:10:30,460 --> 01:10:35,300
We can't have any big players
from ODU, you know, 5 yard run,

1333
01:10:35,420 --> 01:10:37,670
whatever.
You know, they may get a first

1334
01:10:37,670 --> 01:10:39,030
down, whatever.
That's football.

1335
01:10:39,350 --> 01:10:42,470
We can't have no explosive plays
to a team like this.

1336
01:10:43,030 --> 01:10:45,030
You don't want to be in a
dogfight with a team you're

1337
01:10:45,030 --> 01:10:48,590
supposed to be because crazy
shit happens when you let people

1338
01:10:48,590 --> 01:10:50,350
who are inferior to you step
around.

1339
01:10:50,630 --> 01:10:53,270
And yes, I'm calling ODU
inferior to us.

1340
01:10:53,630 --> 01:10:56,630
We have a better team.
We are playing at home.

1341
01:10:56,870 --> 01:10:59,790
We are playing at 8:00 at night
under the lights.

1342
01:11:00,190 --> 01:11:03,830
Lane is going to be rocking.
That is a game we should win

1343
01:11:05,030 --> 01:11:06,860
again.
Go ahead, Brian.

1344
01:11:06,860 --> 01:11:09,300
Yeah, I was gonna say if Shelton
Moss is on with us tonight, he'd

1345
01:11:09,300 --> 01:11:12,060
be saying the thing that killed
that defense last year was

1346
01:11:12,060 --> 01:11:14,660
explosive plays.
If you take out the explosive

1347
01:11:14,660 --> 01:11:17,940
plays, that's a pretty damn good
defense.

1348
01:11:18,740 --> 01:11:21,140
Probably.
But, but we gave up a bunch of

1349
01:11:21,140 --> 01:11:23,300
explosive plays.
We, you know, we talked, we

1350
01:11:23,580 --> 01:11:26,660
talked ad nausea about what
happened against fit, but also

1351
01:11:26,660 --> 01:11:30,540
looking at ODU about three or
four big pass plays, most of

1352
01:11:30,540 --> 01:11:33,690
them to Olly Jennings.
Is the difference between 10

1353
01:11:33,690 --> 01:11:36,290
more points getting taken off
the board and it wasn't even

1354
01:11:36,290 --> 01:11:37,730
good passes?
No, they weren't.

1355
01:11:37,730 --> 01:11:39,490
No, they were ducks, man.
They were ducks.

1356
01:11:39,650 --> 01:11:41,170
They were throwing while getting
hit.

1357
01:11:41,330 --> 01:11:42,730
I mean, he was floating in the
air.

1358
01:11:42,730 --> 01:11:45,530
I was like, I don't know who
needs to pray.

1359
01:11:45,530 --> 01:11:48,050
I don't know who.
Ollie Jennings got praise

1360
01:11:48,490 --> 01:11:51,450
because if they want Ollie
Jennings on that team, it was

1361
01:11:51,450 --> 01:11:54,970
all going to get caught, man.
Well, he's on our team this

1362
01:11:54,970 --> 01:11:55,890
year.
Yes he is.

1363
01:11:55,890 --> 01:11:59,450
So we need, we need to make sure
we get him the ball.

1364
01:12:00,110 --> 01:12:02,710
Yeah, we just know, man, we
can't have any big plays.

1365
01:12:02,710 --> 01:12:07,150
We can't have any, you know,
fluke plays, you know, is what

1366
01:12:07,150 --> 01:12:10,310
I'll say now.
I'm going to say something else.

1367
01:12:10,310 --> 01:12:13,990
I don't have this on the run
down, but talk about the too

1368
01:12:13,990 --> 01:12:19,470
deep of the corner backroom,
because the too deep is Dante

1369
01:12:19,470 --> 01:12:23,230
Lovett.
Is Braylon Jennings or Johnson?

1370
01:12:23,230 --> 01:12:27,350
Excuse me?
And it's JP, not JTJP.

1371
01:12:27,350 --> 01:12:31,060
Jonathan Pennix.
We got three true freshmen,

1372
01:12:31,620 --> 01:12:35,860
basically with The Deep, and I
know Canteen and I, Delaine

1373
01:12:36,100 --> 01:12:41,140
Mansoor and oh, I say no, no,
no, I know.

1374
01:12:42,300 --> 01:12:48,060
We get, we get, we know.
Dorian, we know Dorian and we

1375
01:12:48,060 --> 01:12:50,740
know Canteen, and we know
Mansoor Delaine.

1376
01:12:51,140 --> 01:12:53,580
We know they're going to rotate
because we know all three guys

1377
01:12:53,580 --> 01:12:58,430
can do all three positions, so.
But we know just based on this

1378
01:12:58,430 --> 01:13:01,670
depth chart, when it's a true
nickel canteens going to be in

1379
01:13:01,670 --> 01:13:03,150
that slot.
I think Canteen can play that

1380
01:13:03,190 --> 01:13:05,670
the best.
Anything else Y'all want to talk

1381
01:13:05,670 --> 01:13:07,710
about the secondary room?
Yeah, let's go ahead.

1382
01:13:07,710 --> 01:13:09,830
Let's like like you said, man,
let's just highlight the the

1383
01:13:09,830 --> 01:13:13,630
three youths getting into two
deep, man, because that that's

1384
01:13:13,630 --> 01:13:20,190
big because that shows you that
the dogs that this staff is

1385
01:13:20,190 --> 01:13:23,630
recruiting are showing up and
are ready to play.

1386
01:13:24,550 --> 01:13:27,440
True.
Well, it's kind of like Delaine

1387
01:13:27,440 --> 01:13:32,880
last year, like we as hokey fans
kind of knew or thought you

1388
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:34,920
know, oh this kid is pretty
good, you know what I'm saying?

1389
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:40,760
Didn't have a flashy rating if
you go back and look at his

1390
01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:44,600
rating.
Good off the list, not great

1391
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:47,800
rating, but good off the list.
But casual fan would just be

1392
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:50,800
like Okay.
You know he's another freshman.

1393
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:53,400
He'll he'll developed into a
solid player.

1394
01:13:54,180 --> 01:13:57,460
He goes out there and takes a
spot last year, you know.

1395
01:13:57,500 --> 01:13:59,540
Well guess what Pratt comes on
our show.

1396
01:13:59,540 --> 01:14:02,260
If Y'all ain't been listening,
you better go back and listen.

1397
01:14:03,060 --> 01:14:06,700
He's been on here, he said I'm
going to recruit people to bring

1398
01:14:06,700 --> 01:14:10,460
in to take your spot.
So these people that he's going

1399
01:14:10,460 --> 01:14:13,620
to recruit, these freshmen that
have come in, he's went and told

1400
01:14:13,620 --> 01:14:16,230
them, I want you to come in and
play.

1401
01:14:16,270 --> 01:14:19,790
I'm not recruiting people to be
fifth year seniors and you know,

1402
01:14:19,790 --> 01:14:21,910
finally get a shot if you can
come in right now.

1403
01:14:21,910 --> 01:14:24,030
We won three fucking games last
year.

1404
01:14:24,190 --> 01:14:26,750
We need people who going to come
in and help us win right now.

1405
01:14:27,270 --> 01:14:30,110
And I think the freshmen have
been showing that, you know,

1406
01:14:30,110 --> 01:14:31,990
they're willing to get out there
and make plays.

1407
01:14:32,910 --> 01:14:35,030
I'm going to make a point on
this, and you keep hearing it

1408
01:14:35,070 --> 01:14:36,830
all the time.
You heard it from Canteen today

1409
01:14:36,830 --> 01:14:40,910
talking about these guys come
from good schools, winning

1410
01:14:40,910 --> 01:14:43,590
programs.
Fante Lovett play the DeMatha.

1411
01:14:44,060 --> 01:14:46,620
Best One of the best in the
WCAC, Right Miss Sigla.

1412
01:14:46,900 --> 01:14:49,340
Yes, Sir.
Brandon Johnson plays out here

1413
01:14:49,340 --> 01:14:52,420
at Highland Springs 5 state
titles in the last eight years.

1414
01:14:52,580 --> 01:14:55,100
It's one of the two, probably
one of the two or three best

1415
01:14:55,260 --> 01:14:58,540
programs in the state.
Went down, beat Maramar down in

1416
01:14:58,540 --> 01:15:00,700
Miami.
Didn't have a problem with them.

1417
01:15:00,900 --> 01:15:05,860
That's they went to Daddy
Johnson school and took his high

1418
01:15:05,860 --> 01:15:08,060
school out of my town.
And then Pennix went to

1419
01:15:08,060 --> 01:15:10,340
Appomattox County.
Appomattox couple years ago won

1420
01:15:10,340 --> 01:15:13,300
the 2 eighth state title.
That's a smaller division.

1421
01:15:13,990 --> 01:15:16,510
But again, you're talking about
the mentality.

1422
01:15:16,950 --> 01:15:19,590
Those guys ain't used to losing.
They aren't used to losing

1423
01:15:19,590 --> 01:15:24,110
competitive reps So you bring
those guys in, you look at their

1424
01:15:24,110 --> 01:15:29,870
body, 6 foot 196, one, excuse
me, 611756180.

1425
01:15:31,110 --> 01:15:33,670
They ain't me and Kelly, me and
you keep.

1426
01:15:33,670 --> 01:15:36,710
We've had this conversation
that's like where we at they

1427
01:15:36,830 --> 01:15:38,150
look like.
Where we get to fix it back

1428
01:15:38,150 --> 01:15:42,350
unless they playing somebody
like Quan Felton, six, five, 220

1429
01:15:42,350 --> 01:15:44,270
pounds.
But there's so many of them in

1430
01:15:44,270 --> 01:15:45,830
the world.
Right now I was.

1431
01:15:45,830 --> 01:15:49,070
I was told by somebody that
doesn't know Ball that Jonathan

1432
01:15:49,070 --> 01:15:52,190
Pennix wasn't going to see the
field until he was a senior at

1433
01:15:52,270 --> 01:15:56,550
at best.
So we know we talked to a lot of

1434
01:15:56,550 --> 01:15:59,230
people who don't know Ball.
I'm just going to play that all.

1435
01:16:00,190 --> 01:16:01,590
Right.
All right.

1436
01:16:01,590 --> 01:16:04,590
All right, let's go.
We got one last room before we

1437
01:16:04,590 --> 01:16:06,990
get to our prediction, and
that's the linebacker room.

1438
01:16:07,430 --> 01:16:11,910
And I'm going to hit mine up
first just because I'm leaving

1439
01:16:11,910 --> 01:16:14,140
it.
I want to see We know County

1440
01:16:14,140 --> 01:16:18,780
Jenkins is the lock starter.
You know our our buddy right

1441
01:16:18,780 --> 01:16:20,220
here.
Ellis threw up here talking

1442
01:16:20,220 --> 01:16:22,100
about Cotman history, what
Cotman's going to do.

1443
01:16:22,300 --> 01:16:24,260
Cotman not on the too deep at
all.

1444
01:16:25,020 --> 01:16:27,340
I still think you'll see out
there cuz he's got the body

1445
01:16:27,340 --> 01:16:29,500
tight.
But I want to know how much run

1446
01:16:29,500 --> 01:16:34,140
Woodson gets as a too deep guy.
And Tally, you made a big piece

1447
01:16:34,260 --> 01:16:36,380
about what you want to talk
about talking about the young

1448
01:16:36,380 --> 01:16:41,960
guys, right?
Yeah, I mean it's let me say,

1449
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:46,160
I'm just thinking you had two at
cornerback, then you had

1450
01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:49,280
Woodson, so you got Johnson,
Lovett, Woodson.

1451
01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:52,600
You know, Cottman probably will
be somewhere in there.

1452
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:59,760
Like how many of these guys do
we get to see and how big a jump

1453
01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:01,280
are they going to take, You know
what I'm saying?

1454
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:03,800
If they get in early, that's
what we need.

1455
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:06,760
We need them to get in in these
first couple of games because I

1456
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:11,450
feel like the the bulk of our
schedule, it's probably game

1457
01:17:11,450 --> 01:17:16,210
five is when we really start to
get into some oh shit games, you

1458
01:17:16,210 --> 01:17:18,890
know what I'm saying?
So if we can get some of these

1459
01:17:18,890 --> 01:17:21,250
early games and get some of
these kids some confidence and

1460
01:17:21,250 --> 01:17:23,970
some playing time, you know,
what's that?

1461
01:17:23,970 --> 01:17:25,810
What's that youth movement look
like?

1462
01:17:26,290 --> 01:17:30,290
How big a jump can we get from
them to get ready to go into the

1463
01:17:30,290 --> 01:17:32,930
rest of the season?
Yeah, I'm with that.

1464
01:17:32,930 --> 01:17:34,450
And like, you know, especially
when we talk about.

1465
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:37,560
You know Woodson and Copman that
that's the future of that star

1466
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:40,000
position.
So if we can, if we can see what

1467
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:41,760
they got early that that would
be big.

1468
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:47,240
I'll tell you what what
interested me was was to I mean

1469
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:47,920
you.
Man, got it.

1470
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:50,400
Dude, he he got it.
He called it last week.

1471
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:52,880
Keller started.
Mike that.

1472
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:56,840
That's a big one for us.
I feel like I'm excited to see

1473
01:17:56,840 --> 01:17:59,360
what he brings to the table.
Obviously athleticism out the

1474
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:03,020
gate.
We haven't probably had this

1475
01:18:03,020 --> 01:18:06,740
athletic of a middle linebacker.
I I can't remember when if we

1476
01:18:06,740 --> 01:18:09,460
being honest probably.
You may go straight up with you.

1477
01:18:09,460 --> 01:18:11,820
I love Vince Hall.
Vince Hall was somewhat

1478
01:18:11,820 --> 01:18:15,300
athletic.
Ben Taylor CUZ Ben Taylor made

1479
01:18:15,300 --> 01:18:18,140
it to the league and Ben Taylor
was an athletic ass Mike.

1480
01:18:18,620 --> 01:18:21,340
Yeah, but you're probably right.
You're probably the most

1481
01:18:21,340 --> 01:18:22,540
athletic.
Yeah.

1482
01:18:23,140 --> 01:18:25,340
Vet.
Now Vitch was athletic, but you

1483
01:18:25,340 --> 01:18:27,460
said the most, and that's.
Probably it, yeah.

1484
01:18:27,540 --> 01:18:32,020
This is probably the fastest and
quickest Mike linebacker we've

1485
01:18:32,020 --> 01:18:33,700
seen in probably almost 20
years.

1486
01:18:35,060 --> 01:18:39,260
And then you know the name that
popped up in the 2 Deep.

1487
01:18:39,260 --> 01:18:40,900
I know they're sitting on the
run down, but I'm going to talk

1488
01:18:40,900 --> 01:18:42,500
about it.
We saw Will Johnson crack the

1489
01:18:42,500 --> 01:18:45,740
two with two deep at will.
Shot by that?

1490
01:18:46,060 --> 01:18:47,700
And we hadn't heard his name in
a minute.

1491
01:18:47,700 --> 01:18:50,420
He's been injured most of the
first two years on campus.

1492
01:18:51,100 --> 01:18:54,500
But seeing him crack the 2 deep,
that's big because that's

1493
01:18:54,500 --> 01:18:57,740
somebody I don't think a lot of
us had thought about.

1494
01:18:58,340 --> 01:19:01,540
And if he's pushing other guys
that we did think about out of

1495
01:19:01,540 --> 01:19:04,780
that too deep spot, I feel like
that's a good sign, man.

1496
01:19:04,780 --> 01:19:07,260
All he's got to do is get hit
one time and have a little blood

1497
01:19:07,260 --> 01:19:09,740
come down his nose.
He's going to be a hokey

1498
01:19:09,740 --> 01:19:12,980
forever.
They're going to love him, Will

1499
01:19:12,980 --> 01:19:15,220
Johnson.
Hey, get that little blood

1500
01:19:15,220 --> 01:19:17,940
running down your nose, man.
Go look at the pictures of

1501
01:19:17,940 --> 01:19:20,070
decks.
They love him in Blacksburg.

1502
01:19:21,190 --> 01:19:23,790
Well, but, but, but will.
Johnson's a little bit different

1503
01:19:24,110 --> 01:19:26,750
than Dax will ever, because I
remember when his take came out,

1504
01:19:26,750 --> 01:19:29,430
Brown was talking about him.
Brian, you thought he could play

1505
01:19:29,470 --> 01:19:31,670
star.
You thought he was athletic?

1506
01:19:31,790 --> 01:19:32,830
Enough.
He came out.

1507
01:19:32,830 --> 01:19:35,950
I mean, he was a he was a safety
that we were recruiting as a

1508
01:19:35,950 --> 01:19:39,910
linebacker and he's, he's got
the tools there.

1509
01:19:39,910 --> 01:19:43,030
I feel like Will's probably
longterm a better fit now,

1510
01:19:43,030 --> 01:19:46,070
especially since he's got in the
weight room.

1511
01:19:46,630 --> 01:19:48,630
You know all of that.
He's probably at a point now

1512
01:19:48,630 --> 01:19:50,430
where Will is probably a better
fit for him.

1513
01:19:50,430 --> 01:19:52,710
So, but again, we talked about
it.

1514
01:19:52,790 --> 01:19:55,870
Athleticism.
Athletic.

1515
01:19:55,870 --> 01:19:59,310
I mean, look at the four, look
at the six starting linebackers

1516
01:19:59,310 --> 01:20:01,750
this year or the six in the 2
deep.

1517
01:20:03,670 --> 01:20:10,190
We got Keller, you got Lawson,
you got Johnson, you got Tisdale

1518
01:20:10,190 --> 01:20:12,790
and see what you want to say.
Tisdale's somewhat athletic.

1519
01:20:13,270 --> 01:20:15,950
For his position and then
Jenkins in the freaking nature.

1520
01:20:15,950 --> 01:20:19,150
Caleb Woodson out of Star.
Well, Sunsdale was a good fit

1521
01:20:19,150 --> 01:20:21,630
athletically at will.
He's going to be an Amatic

1522
01:20:21,670 --> 01:20:23,030
athlete.
It might, yeah.

1523
01:20:23,150 --> 01:20:27,310
So you know something I think
with this one though, because we

1524
01:20:27,310 --> 01:20:32,110
talked about the athleticism, is
I think we need to see Kalai

1525
01:20:32,110 --> 01:20:37,310
Lawson take over this game.
And when I say that, it may not

1526
01:20:37,310 --> 01:20:39,310
show up in the stat lines,
right?

1527
01:20:39,630 --> 01:20:42,030
It may not.
It could be one of those games

1528
01:20:42,030 --> 01:20:45,350
where they they drop him more in
coverage, Not to worry about it.

1529
01:20:45,790 --> 01:20:50,150
But I sit here and I and I go
back to one of his analysts and

1530
01:20:50,150 --> 01:20:54,190
I think about X.
In his second year, X had some

1531
01:20:54,190 --> 01:20:57,590
monster games.
X had a game against West

1532
01:20:57,590 --> 01:21:00,550
Virginia where he had 10
tackles, he had a sack, he had a

1533
01:21:00,550 --> 01:21:04,550
tackle for loss.
I think he's going to have games

1534
01:21:04,550 --> 01:21:05,870
like that.
I think they're still going to

1535
01:21:05,870 --> 01:21:08,870
be growing pains, but his
athleticism, I think Saturday

1536
01:21:08,870 --> 01:21:12,070
night, depending on how they use
him, I think he could wreck shop

1537
01:21:12,070 --> 01:21:14,710
Saturday night.
And I think if we see that if he

1538
01:21:14,710 --> 01:21:19,790
wrecks shop, I think all of us
like that defense.

1539
01:21:20,270 --> 01:21:25,470
It was solid last year.
It has a chance to step up if

1540
01:21:25,470 --> 01:21:28,510
they wreck shop because the
levels have changed.

1541
01:21:28,510 --> 01:21:31,270
You have we we'll go through all
of them.

1542
01:21:31,590 --> 01:21:33,390
You've got a really good
secondary.

1543
01:21:33,630 --> 01:21:36,390
You've improved on the defensive
line and we just talked about

1544
01:21:36,390 --> 01:21:38,670
it.
We have athletic linebackers

1545
01:21:38,710 --> 01:21:42,160
everywhere.
All righty.

1546
01:21:42,160 --> 01:21:45,240
Well boys, we have hit that time
of the night.

1547
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:49,400
It's time to make predictions.
Now before we throw our own

1548
01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:52,320
predictions out there.
Some of y'all have been nice

1549
01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:54,840
enough to throw your predictions
in here and I'm going to pop

1550
01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:58,240
these up real quick.
We got Low Country Living saying

1551
01:21:58,240 --> 01:22:00,120
3110.
I'm assuming all these are

1552
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:07,760
Hokies, Hudson Hatfield 3817,
William account 3810.

1553
01:22:08,120 --> 01:22:11,480
Anymore photos out there?
We're going to be given hours,

1554
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:13,840
Brian.
We're going to let you lead it

1555
01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:16,240
this year, man.
What do you got for Saturday

1556
01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:18,480
nights under the light at Lane
Stadium?

1557
01:22:19,640 --> 01:22:25,560
All right, so last year we lost
this game 20 to 17 in Norfolk.

1558
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:30,000
We gave a 10 point swing on a
field goal.

1559
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:34,760
We had an in in a completely
inept running attack.

1560
01:22:35,720 --> 01:22:39,000
We had a bunch of turnovers from
our quarterback.

1561
01:22:39,830 --> 01:22:41,710
And we still lost the game by
three points.

1562
01:22:42,230 --> 01:22:43,790
On paper.
We've gotten better.

1563
01:22:43,790 --> 01:22:48,470
They've gotten worse.
If this is anything less than A2

1564
01:22:48,470 --> 01:22:51,590
touchdown victory, I'm going to
be a little concerned.

1565
01:22:53,430 --> 01:22:55,390
Shout out, shout out.
Pete B, he's right there with

1566
01:22:55,390 --> 01:22:56,990
it.
I I was saying if this is

1567
01:22:56,990 --> 01:23:01,750
anything worse than a 2814 game,
then there's there's probably

1568
01:23:01,750 --> 01:23:03,510
some things we should be a
little concerned about.

1569
01:23:03,510 --> 01:23:04,910
I don't have it looking that
way.

1570
01:23:04,910 --> 01:23:07,750
I've got it looking like 38 to
10.

1571
01:23:08,970 --> 01:23:12,050
I've got us running, running the
boat on them a little bit.

1572
01:23:12,650 --> 01:23:15,570
All right, Tally.
Because I'm a hokey fan and

1573
01:23:16,330 --> 01:23:23,250
because I know how the world is
makes makes me feel I got us

1574
01:23:23,250 --> 01:23:27,130
right at 2814.
I got us getting a little bit of

1575
01:23:27,130 --> 01:23:29,370
hope.
We look pretty good, but we

1576
01:23:29,370 --> 01:23:31,970
can't look too good and get too
excited because.

1577
01:23:31,970 --> 01:23:34,850
Just enough not to worry.
Just enough not to.

1578
01:23:34,850 --> 01:23:36,330
Worry that wouldn't be the hokey
way.

1579
01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:38,920
You know what I'm saying?
That I got us 2814.

1580
01:23:38,920 --> 01:23:41,320
All right, we're going to throw
up a couple other scores here

1581
01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:45,000
before I give nine.
We got Ella Savage saying 2710,

1582
01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:47,800
rescore win.
And here's our big one.

1583
01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:54,200
Justin is saying 4210, and
Justin, me and you aren't that

1584
01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:57,560
far off.
But hold on there, there's the

1585
01:23:57,560 --> 01:23:59,160
real number, right?
There, there we go.

1586
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:03,660
There we go, got some more
coming in here.

1587
01:24:04,220 --> 01:24:07,460
Chris Martin saying a 10 point
game, that's the one where if

1588
01:24:07,460 --> 01:24:11,300
that's that game, you know what
we going to do next Tuesday.

1589
01:24:11,300 --> 01:24:13,420
We say we're going to try to cut
it down this year and we going

1590
01:24:13,420 --> 01:24:17,620
to be here while if it's 20. 13
I do not want to criticize the

1591
01:24:17,620 --> 01:24:19,820
hell game.
I understand why you put that,

1592
01:24:19,820 --> 01:24:21,140
Chris.
Yes, we all.

1593
01:24:21,180 --> 01:24:25,700
Understand why you put it.
All right, So I'm going to go

1594
01:24:26,220 --> 01:24:29,420
with this score.
It's the same score I had last

1595
01:24:29,420 --> 01:24:33,390
year and if it don't work this
year, I ain't using it again.

1596
01:24:34,030 --> 01:24:38,230
I'm saying 4117 Hokies.
I'm going to go a lot of what

1597
01:24:38,230 --> 01:24:40,550
Brian said.
We've gotten significantly

1598
01:24:40,550 --> 01:24:43,430
better in just about every facet
of the game.

1599
01:24:44,110 --> 01:24:47,030
They effectively have gotten
significantly worse.

1600
01:24:47,510 --> 01:24:50,470
I added the 17.
I've decided to stick with that

1601
01:24:50,470 --> 01:24:53,910
because I think it's going to be
something like 4110 and they're

1602
01:24:53,910 --> 01:24:57,070
going to sneak that one little
score to Tally's point that

1603
01:24:57,070 --> 01:25:00,870
makes us go away a second.
Are we really all that good?

1604
01:25:01,370 --> 01:25:03,050
Why we let them score late like
this?

1605
01:25:03,410 --> 01:25:06,970
But I do see us winning.
I also think if we hear the

1606
01:25:06,970 --> 01:25:11,010
tones from the the tones from
the presser today, Coach won't

1607
01:25:11,010 --> 01:25:13,330
fucking around somebody in
there.

1608
01:25:13,330 --> 01:25:16,010
If y'all didn't hear, we won't
talk about Alan Jenkins and he

1609
01:25:16,010 --> 01:25:18,730
did, he deadpan.
He didn't say we don't have

1610
01:25:18,730 --> 01:25:20,530
anybody by that name on our
team.

1611
01:25:20,650 --> 01:25:23,170
Ali Jenkins, we don't have
anybody by that name.

1612
01:25:23,170 --> 01:25:27,210
The kid was like, well, Ali
Jennings, yes, that's who we're

1613
01:25:27,210 --> 01:25:29,810
talking about.
Like, I think that probably piss

1614
01:25:29,810 --> 01:25:33,040
Coach off more than anything.
Get the name right, you.

1615
01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:34,920
Got to get it right to pay the
price, baby.

1616
01:25:35,320 --> 01:25:38,680
So if y'all got more predictions
again, throw it in there, we'll

1617
01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:41,560
put them up.
But we are going all with hokey

1618
01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:48,280
victories here for Week 1.
And let's hope it is, boys, just

1619
01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:50,960
because I don't feel like
talking a week from now after a

1620
01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:53,760
long Labor Day weekend, it's
going to be a long Labor Day

1621
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:56,400
weekend.
Yep, yeah, all of us.

1622
01:25:56,820 --> 01:25:59,100
I got Friday off, man.
I got a four day week, man.

1623
01:25:59,100 --> 01:26:00,980
We're I'm, I'm taking Friday
off.

1624
01:26:00,980 --> 01:26:04,580
I got a four day weekend.
It's going to be craziness, but

1625
01:26:05,100 --> 01:26:08,380
Speaking of a four day weekend,
it's going to be football on

1626
01:26:08,380 --> 01:26:11,500
starting Thursday all the way to
Monday night.

1627
01:26:11,820 --> 01:26:16,020
Well, see, my son, my son's game
got rained out last night.

1628
01:26:16,020 --> 01:26:19,140
Started lightning.
He plays tomorrow at 6:30.

1629
01:26:19,460 --> 01:26:22,580
So I got football wins, yeah,
Thursday and y'all play next

1630
01:26:22,580 --> 01:26:24,260
Tuesday, right?
Yes.

1631
01:26:24,300 --> 01:26:25,580
No, no, no, no.
We're off.

1632
01:26:25,700 --> 01:26:27,940
We're off.
Excuse me, five straight days of

1633
01:26:27,940 --> 01:26:30,540
football for talent.
So Tally, let me pitch to you.

1634
01:26:31,140 --> 01:26:34,500
I know what game you got.
I know this game is going to be

1635
01:26:34,500 --> 01:26:37,540
kind of overlapping the Hokies,
but I got a feeling you got your

1636
01:26:37,740 --> 01:26:40,100
you got one and why do you have
it on this one?

1637
01:26:40,140 --> 01:26:44,260
And who you taking?
I'm going to say North Carolina

1638
01:26:44,260 --> 01:26:51,300
and South Carolina mainly.
You got the you got ACC versus

1639
01:26:51,300 --> 01:26:56,410
SCC first week of the season.
Drake may I think one of the

1640
01:26:56,690 --> 01:26:58,730
best quarterbacks in college
right now.

1641
01:26:59,450 --> 01:27:02,410
We've heard a lot about this
conference realignment.

1642
01:27:02,970 --> 01:27:07,130
I think I'm going to take I
think N Carolina's -2 1/2 right

1643
01:27:07,130 --> 01:27:09,090
now I'm.
Going to take it.

1644
01:27:09,690 --> 01:27:12,450
I'm going to take North Carolina
-2 1/2 on that game.

1645
01:27:12,810 --> 01:27:14,570
I think N Carolina's going to
come out.

1646
01:27:14,610 --> 01:27:19,530
And I think they're going to,
you know, show why the ACC is

1647
01:27:19,530 --> 01:27:22,250
better, baby.
We do it better over here.

1648
01:27:22,700 --> 01:27:25,460
No, I just feel, I just feel
like the beginning of the

1649
01:27:25,460 --> 01:27:28,180
season, Drake May is going to
come out and he's going to start

1650
01:27:28,180 --> 01:27:29,460
his.
He's going to start his

1651
01:27:29,460 --> 01:27:31,700
campaign.
I got them winning that one and

1652
01:27:31,700 --> 01:27:33,980
I think that's going to be a I
think it's going to be a good

1653
01:27:33,980 --> 01:27:40,940
game, alrighty.
Sigler Yeah, So my game I I kind

1654
01:27:40,940 --> 01:27:42,940
of went a little sideways on
this and I wanted to do

1655
01:27:42,940 --> 01:27:46,860
something a little different,
not take some of the obvious

1656
01:27:46,860 --> 01:27:53,400
matchups I'm looking at Boise
State, UW All right.

1657
01:27:54,400 --> 01:28:01,720
That's a that's a 14 1/2 favor
for the for the Huskies there it

1658
01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:05,720
is.
I will take Boise plus the 14

1659
01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:08,400
1/2, but I think the Huskies
take the WI think it's going to

1660
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:10,040
be closer than the experts
think.

1661
01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:12,560
I think that's a game that can
come down to the wire.

1662
01:28:13,550 --> 01:28:23,030
That's a good game.
Let's not watch this.

1663
01:28:14,150 --> 01:28:17,670
That's also Brian, Brian, just
trying to make a bet on the 3:30

1664
01:28:17,670 --> 01:28:20,030
game, so we actually have
something to pull up at the

1665
01:28:20,030 --> 01:28:23,750
house.
We go.

1666
01:28:23,750 --> 01:28:25,550
I'm gonna throw one up here real
quick.

1667
01:28:27,190 --> 01:28:30,230
Ellis is saying he's gonna be
watching the Penn State, West

1668
01:28:30,230 --> 01:28:33,030
Virginia game.
Ellis, if you got three TV's,

1669
01:28:33,030 --> 01:28:35,550
you can definitely do that.
That's why I got three TV's,

1670
01:28:35,550 --> 01:28:37,670
because like to watch two games
at once?

1671
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:41,600
Boys.
Here.

1672
01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:42,600
Here.
Hey, here's there.

1673
01:28:43,200 --> 01:28:44,960
There.
You gotta have one on the phone

1674
01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:46,440
too.
You got one on the phone?

1675
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:50,000
Yeah, you can go 4I.
Got two more screens here on my

1676
01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:53,440
computer so I could go five
boxes if we want to, baby, we

1677
01:28:53,480 --> 01:28:54,800
can go crazy.
We can go crazy.

1678
01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:58,560
I'm going to Thursday night to
kick off my weekend okay.

1679
01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:03,720
I think it is going to be an
absolute slugfest in Salt Lake

1680
01:29:03,720 --> 01:29:09,960
City with Utah versus Florida
line is 6 1/2 Florida.

1681
01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:14,920
I think Utah will win the game.
I think Florida covers.

1682
01:29:14,920 --> 01:29:17,120
I think it's going to be similar
to last year's games where it

1683
01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:19,800
literally that game came down to
that was a hell of a game to

1684
01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:22,760
watch.
It came down to the wire with

1685
01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:28,000
Utah just fallen short and in so
many games all over the weekend

1686
01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:31,160
to watch the big one.
I'm I'm I'm kind of glad they

1687
01:29:31,160 --> 01:29:34,890
put Florida State LSU on set
Sunday night.

1688
01:29:35,170 --> 01:29:38,410
Yeah cuz man, if that would have
overlap with the Hokie games

1689
01:29:38,410 --> 01:29:41,530
like I'm gonna watch the Hokies.
But the college football fan of

1690
01:29:41,530 --> 01:29:43,050
me wants to watch that game,
too.

1691
01:29:43,170 --> 01:29:45,250
Yeah.
So thank you TV producers for

1692
01:29:45,250 --> 01:29:47,170
finally.
Getting great game last year, it

1693
01:29:47,170 --> 01:29:48,850
was a great.
Game last year, Great game last

1694
01:29:48,930 --> 01:29:50,890
year.
I'm interested to see if Duke

1695
01:29:50,890 --> 01:29:54,050
can keep it close with Clemson.
That's gonna tell a lot about

1696
01:29:54,050 --> 01:29:56,090
Duke this year, yeah.
I'm interested.

1697
01:29:56,210 --> 01:29:59,570
You see the spread on that?
See the spread 12 and a half 12

1698
01:29:59,650 --> 01:30:00,770
1/2?
That ain't a big spread.

1699
01:30:01,140 --> 01:30:02,900
No.
One might be saying a lot about.

1700
01:30:02,900 --> 01:30:06,900
Speaking of big spread though,
y'all see the UVA Tennessee

1701
01:30:06,900 --> 01:30:07,980
line.
No.

1702
01:30:07,980 --> 01:30:09,380
What is it?
28 1/2 isn't it?

1703
01:30:09,780 --> 01:30:15,260
2828 flat, 28 flat.
Now that might not be enough.

1704
01:30:17,020 --> 01:30:18,580
That seriously might not be
enough.

1705
01:30:18,940 --> 01:30:21,060
I I know you.
I love you, my boy.

1706
01:30:21,900 --> 01:30:25,500
But if y'all lose the the
Tennessee, then Tennessee fans

1707
01:30:25,500 --> 01:30:30,880
going to be on your ass, right?
They only day on all day, all

1708
01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:32,960
day.
Just a couple more things to pop

1709
01:30:32,960 --> 01:30:34,920
up here.
Thomas says take the under on

1710
01:30:34,920 --> 01:30:36,320
Florida.
I think the under I think it's

1711
01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:39,360
44 1/2 might be right.
That's 40.

1712
01:30:39,840 --> 01:30:43,240
Anything like mid 40 scares me
cuz fluky things happen in

1713
01:30:43,240 --> 01:30:46,160
college football where it's like
I got this at 43 and it's

1714
01:30:46,160 --> 01:30:48,400
somebody rode to pick six back
the last second you're like,

1715
01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:53,280
yeah. 4849 is where you start
feeling a little bit more

1716
01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:54,840
comfortable.
Exactly.

1717
01:30:54,840 --> 01:30:59,640
Cucked us down into 75.
We appreciate it.

1718
01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:02,920
We appreciate anything breaking.
Y'all we've been in here an hour

1719
01:31:02,920 --> 01:31:04,880
and a.
Half nothing breaking, man.

1720
01:31:04,880 --> 01:31:09,200
I think one thing that I do want
to say though is of course all

1721
01:31:09,200 --> 01:31:12,640
of the people, man, we
appreciate you guys coming in,

1722
01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:16,320
spending some time with us.
Somebody asked the question and

1723
01:31:16,320 --> 01:31:19,440
we have been slacking.
We do have merchandise.

1724
01:31:19,440 --> 01:31:22,720
We do have a merch store.
We will start to get a little

1725
01:31:22,720 --> 01:31:25,980
bit more active with that.
Haven't even talked to the guys

1726
01:31:25,980 --> 01:31:28,700
about it, but we want to start
doing a couple of giveaways and

1727
01:31:28,700 --> 01:31:31,700
things like that just because we
do appreciate you guys

1728
01:31:31,700 --> 01:31:34,020
interacting with us.
We're trying to grow.

1729
01:31:34,100 --> 01:31:37,140
We want y'all to, you know, come
in and give us what you're

1730
01:31:37,140 --> 01:31:38,940
giving us tonight.
We want that every week.

1731
01:31:38,940 --> 01:31:42,100
We love to spend some time with
y'all and we love to have the

1732
01:31:42,100 --> 01:31:44,460
Boundary corner name out.
I got to get my cups and all of

1733
01:31:44,460 --> 01:31:48,460
this stuff on the screen so
y'all can see it because Brian

1734
01:31:48,780 --> 01:31:51,860
has been doing a awesome job
with some of the stuff that he's

1735
01:31:51,860 --> 01:31:55,470
designing.
So I want to get that out for

1736
01:31:55,470 --> 01:31:58,190
you guys to see it and.
We got more coming.

1737
01:31:58,710 --> 01:32:00,390
Yeah, and I was going to say we
got more.

1738
01:32:00,910 --> 01:32:04,150
Most of it's going to be orange.
I'm going to let y'all know, but

1739
01:32:04,510 --> 01:32:08,430
y'all just get ready.
So Clark just joined in.

1740
01:32:08,430 --> 01:32:12,310
We put Clark up here right
quick, man, Clark said great

1741
01:32:12,310 --> 01:32:13,430
show, man.
We're glad you.

1742
01:32:13,790 --> 01:32:15,630
Hey, you just better be getting
ready, man.

1743
01:32:15,910 --> 01:32:18,230
It's season now.
You got a job.

1744
01:32:18,510 --> 01:32:20,670
You got a job, Clark.
Yeah, job Clark.

1745
01:32:20,670 --> 01:32:22,630
Clark.
We might run into you next or

1746
01:32:22,630 --> 01:32:24,670
not next Saturday.
Yeah, next Saturday.

1747
01:32:25,030 --> 01:32:27,550
Hopefully run into you because
we've said it already.

1748
01:32:27,550 --> 01:32:30,470
And I'll say it again, we will
be in town for the Purdue game.

1749
01:32:30,750 --> 01:32:34,510
Me and Brian are going to be
pulling in sometime early Friday

1750
01:32:34,510 --> 01:32:37,070
afternoon.
Tally going to be in at the butt

1751
01:32:37,070 --> 01:32:41,230
crack of dawn on game day.
I might get the slide in Friday.

1752
01:32:41,230 --> 01:32:43,390
I'm not sure yet.
I know.

1753
01:32:43,390 --> 01:32:46,190
I mean, it's not looking like
it, but you try.

1754
01:32:46,470 --> 01:32:48,070
I'm gonna try.
You try.

1755
01:32:48,310 --> 01:32:50,350
If you pull it, you know, you
know, you know what's gonna

1756
01:32:50,350 --> 01:32:51,550
happen.
It's gonna be a fun Friday

1757
01:32:51,550 --> 01:32:52,510
night.
It's gonna be a.

1758
01:32:53,190 --> 01:32:55,030
Fun Friday night.
It can be that fun of a Friday

1759
01:32:55,030 --> 01:32:56,910
night because I actually want to
go to the game.

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01:32:56,910 --> 01:32:58,710
The fun of it won't be like I'm
gonna be.

1761
01:32:58,750 --> 01:33:00,230
Doing what I'm doing here if I
got.

1762
01:33:00,590 --> 01:33:02,350
Here for three guys pushing
their 40s.

1763
01:33:02,510 --> 01:33:06,150
If I gotta carry you to the game
on my back, you going to the you

1764
01:33:06,150 --> 01:33:09,590
gonna make it, don't you?
Don't worry about it, Tally

1765
01:33:09,590 --> 01:33:12,150
gonna hand me over his shoulder.
He's going.

1766
01:33:12,630 --> 01:33:14,310
To the game.
Yes, Sir.

1767
01:33:15,090 --> 01:33:16,810
All right, we'll hit you up on
Friday, Clark.

1768
01:33:31,410 --> 01:33:18,010
Under 30 hugs from Jeremy.
You're right, Chris.

1769
01:33:18,370 --> 01:33:21,090
Inner night.
Let's go, Hokies, boys.

1770
01:33:21,090 --> 01:33:23,290
Nothing else breaking.
Let's wrap up this episode of

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01:33:23,290 --> 01:33:26,210
the Boundary Corner podcast
brought to you by Main Street

1772
01:33:26,210 --> 01:33:28,730
Pharmacy in Blacksburg.
We will definitely be making a

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01:33:28,730 --> 01:33:31,050
stop by there.
Definitely on Friday.

1774
01:33:33,330 --> 01:33:34,490
Over.
Under 30 hugs.

1775
01:33:34,810 --> 01:33:37,570
Over, under, over.
Depends on how much James hold

1776
01:33:37,650 --> 01:33:40,980
on over under ten shots.
OK, that's good.

1777
01:33:41,380 --> 01:33:43,180
It's going to be over 10 years
for that.

1778
01:33:43,180 --> 01:33:46,300
So the hubs is going to be over
too, over just be like over.

1779
01:33:46,540 --> 01:33:48,700
If it's Jeremy, just hammer the
over on everything.

1780
01:33:48,820 --> 01:33:49,620
Everything.
Everything.

1781
01:33:49,740 --> 01:33:51,740
Everything.
I'm Curtis Wilson.

1782
01:33:52,340 --> 01:33:55,070
I'm Brian Siegler.
Jonathan Talley Visit our

1783
01:33:55,070 --> 01:33:58,510
website boundarycornerbt.com to
listen to all of our episode.

1784
01:33:58,510 --> 01:34:01,510
Also, if you were on with us
tonight, I did throw our

1785
01:34:01,510 --> 01:34:03,550
Boundary Corner store in the
comments.

1786
01:34:03,550 --> 01:34:05,950
Click on that, take a little
some of the stuff we have

1787
01:34:05,950 --> 01:34:08,510
created there.
While you're at our website,

1788
01:34:08,710 --> 01:34:12,950
follow us Twitter, Facebook,
Instagram, Subscribe to our

1789
01:34:12,950 --> 01:34:16,760
YouTube account where so many of
y'all listen every week over

1790
01:34:17,480 --> 01:34:20,600
over 1500 of y'all listen to the
panel on YouTube.

1791
01:34:20,680 --> 01:34:24,080
That is our highest number ever.
We really appreciate you guys

1792
01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:28,320
pressing that button.
Also follow the podcast to see

1793
01:34:28,320 --> 01:34:30,000
our faces.
Listen to it at work on Your

1794
01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:32,160
Drive Spotify, Amazon, Apple
Podcast.

1795
01:34:32,520 --> 01:34:35,160
Our buddy Jason Long, who I
believe Jason's going to be

1796
01:34:35,160 --> 01:34:36,320
coming with us to Roanoke on
Friday.

1797
01:34:36,320 --> 01:34:38,040
He's not going to be able to
make it Saturday.

1798
01:34:38,040 --> 01:34:39,400
I got to come Friday.
I got to.

1799
01:34:39,640 --> 01:34:41,920
There you go.
I got a meeting.

1800
01:34:42,580 --> 01:34:44,300
Hey, you know what?
You know what you need to do?

1801
01:34:44,300 --> 01:34:48,420
Set all your meetings on Zoom
and just just make sure that you

1802
01:34:48,420 --> 01:34:51,300
might have to go the long way
through Atlanta so you don't

1803
01:34:51,300 --> 01:34:53,740
lose.
Signal and you're there by

1804
01:34:53,780 --> 01:34:56,140
Friday afternoon.
You don't miss any work calls?

1805
01:34:56,420 --> 01:35:00,260
Check out Jason Jason
longmusic.com, all his music,

1806
01:35:00,260 --> 01:35:03,500
Apples by Spotify, his YouTube
account, Facebook pages.

1807
01:35:03,860 --> 01:35:05,420
He's got the new album out there
to cover.

1808
01:35:05,420 --> 01:35:08,060
ZP definitely pick that up.
Check it out.

1809
01:35:08,500 --> 01:35:11,220
As always, we thank you for
listening.

1810
01:35:14,740 --> 01:35:17,580
We got a new one.
We got a new one, we got a new

1811
01:35:17,580 --> 01:35:18,620
one.
We got a new one.

1812
01:35:18,620 --> 01:35:20,980
And I got one more thing.
We'll let Ella start us out

1813
01:35:20,980 --> 01:35:22,460
here.
Let's go.