Know the Enemy: North Carolina
Boundary Corner Podcast
Know the Enemy: North Carolina

This week we welcome on Hokies Sam linebacker Keonta Jenkins as we dive back into the Black Diamond Rivalry game and assess what went wrong against the Mountaineers on Thursday Night. We then shift gears to preview the Hokies Saturday afternoon matchup against North Carolina in what looks like a repeat of the 2016 hurricane soaked affair between these two ACC Coastal foes.

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Welcome back to the boundary
Corner podcast.

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I'm Curtis Wilson.
I'm Brian seagull, buddy.

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We're back on a Tuesday.
How you feeling tonight, man?

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I'm feeling good, man.
It is Tuesday night.

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We got another hate week.
Ahead of us with the hate week

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of North Carolina.
How you feeling?

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Hi, Brian.
I'm feeling good man, we got it.

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We got a big guest on the kind
of opened things up.

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So I'm really excited about
that.

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Well, without further Further
Ado let's bring him on the

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starting Sam linebacker for your
and our Virginia Tech Hokies.

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He is from General Bo High
School in Duval County,

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Jacksonville Florida.
Boundary Corner fans.

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We introduce to you key.
On to Jenkins.

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Yeah, we're doing good tonight,
man.

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How are you doing tonight?
I'm doing good.

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I'm doing good blessed to be
here.

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Child on the podcast, man.
Man, we really appreciate you

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taking a few minutes out of your
hectic, schedule this week.

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Obviously, little hate week.
It's Carolina week.

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You guys are traveling Chapel
Hill.

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We really appreciate you taking
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Obviously, we know between
school, practicing, all that you

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are a busy guy.
Starting Sam linebacker for the

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school.
We thank you for taking your

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time to talk with us a little
bit tonight.

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Yeah.
Yeah we're going to lead off

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with this, you know, the big
thing coming into the seasons.

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The big, the big position switch
for you, right?

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Moving from safety down to Sam
linebacker.

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So your four games into the
position that you did really

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think you be playing kind of
especially at the end of last

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season coming at the start of
this season.

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You know, but we've seen some
really good on feel results.

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So far.
How do you feel the adjustment

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to play in?
Sam is gone for you at this

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point in the season, I think it
was a great opportunity for me.

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I think it was probably one of
the best things I probably

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happen for me to get on the
field and be able to make plays

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and just build my resume with my
name.

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The change was different, it was
very unexpected but I try to

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make an opportunity and just
take it head-on.

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Absolutely and obviously you
know we were chit-chatting right

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before Chianti jumped on here
and we were talking about that

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hit it BC.
Well, you caught that guy about

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seven yards behind the line of
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Him, Dom Brown was in the crowd
that night and I love what you

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said.
You said, when you made that hit

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and you heard the crowd about
how electric it was, man, how

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like they're very, let you.
But what are those feelings?

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Like when you're in front of
main stadium and you make a big

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play, you know, how does that
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Does that does that take your
address?

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To a level unseen.
Yeah, Jenna to be pumping.

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You want to tear it down?
You make a big play in a bad

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field.
Tackle for loss.

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I mean the crowd going crazy,
players, going crazy, everybody

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going crazy.
It just unreal moment.

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A very unreal moment for me.
I saw that I love that.

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It's all being in the crowd.
I mean, you just you heard the

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like it was.
Yeah, we saw it coming to.

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We saw it coming.
It was dead to rights before you

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even got there.
So with the adjustments you know

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is it has it been a lot like or
is it still that style of play?

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You brought, you know, coming in
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Is it still a lot of things you
can key on from plane safety?

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With with other side, I tend to
take a lot of my attributes from

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safety as in covering him
covering wise and just speed and

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just being more athletic than
more Lyman, that I'd be have to

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go against.
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be, just when I'm actually in a
box are just this seeing lime

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and Senior Keys, a little fast,
I'm closer to the ball.

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So things happen a little faster
but I definitely think the

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transition from safety down till
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Give me a most Advantage, most
advantage of a lot of teams, a

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lot of players because I have a
Very match speed.

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When I'm either come across the
edge or even covering tight

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ends, it seem more natural to
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Yeah, it's a new close to the
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I mean I can definitely see you
making plays in the backfield a

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lot more tackles for loss.
So that I mean that's that's a

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big asset for the team for sure
abso-freakin'-lutely.

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And so far this year, I mean
we've talked about a couple

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tight ends and I know against
BC, I mean, they're guy had a

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big week 1 against Rutgers.
We didn't hear his name called

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too much and I know, you know,
you were part of that which is

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awesome to hear.
Let me go with this.

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Let's talk about last Thursday
night, just a little bit, you

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know, rough lost to us.
Virginia after that game, what

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was coach prize matches to the
team, emotional loss?

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You know at home rivalry game
you know what was his message to

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you guys in the locker room
after that game?

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I mean, the biggest, the biggest
part I got his message with just

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sticking together playing
together.

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Being one sale, just all believe
in and fighting all the way to

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the end.
Just having a will to win coach

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browser.
Very competitive coach.

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He, he won't all his people to
be competitive, so just just to

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compete all the way to the end.
Follow it to the end, and just

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be more disciplined.
I think that was probably one of

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the biggest things to being
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Has the has the focus on the
competitiveness, you know.

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It does that have anything to do
with some of the penalties that

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we've come up with, is it just
like pressing or is it just

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playing kind of outside of the
framework, trying to trying to

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compete that every rep or is
just a combination of a lot of

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different things?
I think it just competitiveness

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in the motion competitiveness,
and emotion, take over and big

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gains.
And sometimes people rely more

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on these skills and technique,
but coach by always close your

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eyes.
A bit fundamental guy.

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He preached the technique just
doing the fundamentals and just

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playing within the framework.
And I think, once we get that

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down and once we all become
together and show how poisonous

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is and how it changed the game
will be a very more productive.

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I like that.
Yeah, and speaking of those

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penalties you know been hit hard
by both of those in both of the

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losses at this point in the
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Has that been a point of
emphasis during those Sunday

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correction practices that you
guys have been having and how

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those practices helped in
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opponent.
It Dyna correction print, a

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correction practice on Sunday as
being a very, very emphasized on

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penalties.
And how much if we just take the

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pennies away and make them earn
everything, how much the results

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of change?
So coach, probably definitely

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preaches, making them learn and
not giving it to.

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So, we doing that.
I think that cat is all came up

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with a plan to help everybody.
Just notice how important a pill

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and he's a high point, a change,
the game's definitely a bit Time

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moments later on 4th are late
Downs on fourth down that they

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can change.
It and I tell you what it is, it

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is showing with this defense.
When you guys are forcing teams

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to drive the fields, they make
mistakes, you know, we saw the

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fumble against West Virginia,
we've seen the pics, we've seen

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the big tackles for loss.
We've seen them in bad down and

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distances.
So I love that emphasis and I

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love that I can hear it in your
voice like you know, like we

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clean this up.
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There's not a lot of teams that
are going to consistently move

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the ball on us.
They're going to make mistakes.

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They're gonna take big.
Glosses.

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And it's awesome to hear that.
And it's awesome to hear that.

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It sounds like there's things in
place that, you know, that you

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guys are working towards to
clean it up.

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Yes, let's flip over.
Let's talk about some of your

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coaches here.
So, your coach is your coach

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position coaches Coach Quin.
One of the new coaches here, but

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obviously, that's a position.
We know it's working some with

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the defensive backs and Coach
Priscilla.

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We know it's working with Coach
Marv with the mic in the way.

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What is that Dynamic like
between, you know, those three

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coaches since you probably get
to see them more on a daily

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basis than other groups.
I think just being coached by

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all three of them.
Just give me a vintage advantage

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in the learning process because
I'm getting insane coaching with

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Coach Quin.
Coach Quin is a very detailed

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coach with detail.
And there goes, mark this

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energetic and just playing
playing behind the line of

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scrimmage and being a force and
being the hammer.

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Then you got Coach P with just
how he coaches his easy to

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understand.
So I me, I'll watch film with

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the safety's, a large, and I
watch film with the line because

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I like getting feedback from
everyone just improve my game.

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So I definitely go to all three
coaches for help with anything

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that I need and they all give it
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I absolutely loved it.
That Chris Mark talks about

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bringing the hammer down.
And I mean, coach Prelude, I

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mean, you know, he is one of the
EOS one of The Originals back

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when we, we told you, we told
you we'd like, 95 was like our

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first year coach Prelude on
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And then, you know, a guy, how
is he looked at?

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Because you guys are of the age
coach Prelude, when you were

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younger was still in the league,
he's got that ring with the st.

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We're like.
Is he one of those guys when he

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speaks is it kind of, like, do
does everybody's head turned in

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the room because of who he is,
you know, as an originator of DB

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you and then all that time
league and now he's back

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coaching at his alma mater.
Coach the Coach P.

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Got one of the voices when he
when he told everybody just

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listens, it will just listens
and he witnessed his parents had

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a lead.
He know what it takes to be

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great.
He played here, he played on

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championship teams, he played on
very good teams so he know what

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it takes to be great and to get
the v t, as a hold of e.t.

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Defense to where they need to be
to win games.

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So, we take all our details and
all the information they give

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us, we take it in and put it on
the field, man.

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That is that is awesome.
I mean, it's awesome because you

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just feel that Which coach for a
loop.

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Let's talk a little bit about
Coach point because, you know,

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obviously he is your specific
position coach, is he is genuine

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behind the scenes.
Is it seen publicly?

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I mean we always see him out
there, you know, breaking bread

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hokey style, the man is finding,
you know, the diner's, he is the

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Diners Drive-Ins and Dives king
of Virginia Tech Twitter because

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he's asked any he's being
genuine.

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He's asked us fans like, you
know, I'm in Richmond today.

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What's a good spot?
What's a good?

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Local spot.
I can try.

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Is he like that behind the
scenes and, you know, yeah, I

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think coach clear, probably one
of the coaches who he, who, he,

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who he is every day, he the same
guy every day.

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I mean and then we'll definitely
with the.

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He inspires.
I'm a type of person.

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I don't eat.
I don't eat out a lot.

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I don't try different.
He always try to introduce me to

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new things to eat or hanging
out, just to get me to be just

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more like, just those floor,
more be more social.

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So, yeah, he wanted a, if I come
in, if I come to practice with a

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down, I had, A bad as him, you
know, how to uplift.

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You always did smiling it, you
have a joke for you too.

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So it's good.
How coach going around that fly

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high energy and positive energy.
That's awesome.

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Yeah, it's good to have guys
that you know, that, you know,

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if things are going are too
high, too low.

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They're always going to be the
same thing to you.

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They going, they're going to do
with give you what you need to

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get you, right.
Whether that's bring you down a

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little bit of lift you up a
little bit, so it's always good

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to have that type of presence on
the team for sure.

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Let's let's pivot a little a bit
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this week with, with UNC.
Obviously, the big big talk

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right now is everything
happening on with the weather.

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We're looking at potential
hurricane game part two with,

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with UNC down in Chapel Hill has
as coach Pride coach Mark Coach

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Quin Coach P low have they
talked about potential weather

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conditions on Saturday and how
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preparation for y'all.
That's we, as of I haven't

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haven't talked about it a lot a
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brought up.
We have like different, like

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different.
I want to see things that will

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go to if it become a hurricane
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with different scheme.
Different things that we bet

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that we've seen from in the past
would have passed them to think

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they like to go to it.
Just how comfortable they'll be

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what this weather condition but
coach prize one of them guys.

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You did.
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This is this is like what he'd
like he want us to be in the

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trenches.
He want us to be the worst.

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The worst, they can be just to
go ahead and perform, so I'm

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pretty sure he excited.
If it was a hurricane, I played

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in one of those type of games
before and it's intense, but you

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gotta win in the trenches.
And that's the big thing that if

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you're not winning in the
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long, long day.
Well, I'm sitting here thinking,

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right now, the way key, I'm just
describing coach Frey, like,

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coach prize, probably at The
Weather Channel tonight.

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Yeah.
Yeah, 3:30.

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It's going to be pouring down
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Winds.
Yes, one inch of rain between 11

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a.m. and 7 p.m. bring it on.
Thanks coach frightened that

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Flint to hear, man.
Let me guess this about about

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you and see is there, is there a
specific component of their

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offense?
That has kind of been an

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emphasis for you in the
preparation so far this week?

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Biz mainly stopping the Run game
stopped on the ranking.

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They got a nice quarterback,
nice town in the quarterback so

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just making him uncomfortable,
trying to get some as much as

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you can but just as of right
now, just stopping the ranking.

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Yeah.
And that's going to be key with

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that weather for sure.
Absolutely.

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Alright.
Before we before we let you out

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of here, get you some rest.
You've kind of already said it

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you not a big going out to eat
guy but obviously you've been in

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Blacksburg since 2020.
You know, this is now your third

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year.
There what is sort of your food

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spot to go to in Blacksburg?
I me as a recently.

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I've been trying to the space
right there by Waffle House.

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It's called black so black,
okay.

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Okay, yeah, black wings are so
big.

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How sweet chili.
I think, since we typically

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know, my favorite thing, double
back in the same day, a man

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after my own heart, we got a
local spot that does some sweet

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chili Wings, pretty good here.
So, we were right on the same.

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Wavelength are like Sophia for
those who are watching in the

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Blacksburg area.
Y'all need to go buy black salt,

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tell them Kiante Jenkins should
be getting a sponsor.

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And then I'll deal to talk about
the sweet chili Wings, babe.

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I got some good wings.
I like awesome Wilkie on te, you

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know, we really again, we
really, really appreciate you

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taking out a few minutes of your
day to talk with us to talk with

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Hokie Nation, you know, best of
luck on Saturday.

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We will be watching you because
I think we're probably me and

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Brian we're talking we're pretty
determined that it's probably

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going to be rainy so we're not
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So we're going to be sitting in
Iron man, caves screaming Arlo

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Lungs out and hoping we got
nothing but the college football

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all day with the Hokies very
3:30.

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Ryofu.
If it will fit an energy, man

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will feel the energy from Chapel
Hill, good.

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You you continue to do what you
do, man.

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You know, Play Hard Play Smart
in continue to be that sort of,

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you know, like talking with us
tonight, man.

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You know, it again is
appreciated and we can see that

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not only does playing football
for this school mean a lot to

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you, but this school in general
means a lot to you.

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And, you know, we Really
appreciate that man and you take

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care of yourself and hopefully
next time we're in Blacksburg

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will look you up.
Thank you, thank you for having

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me.
I'm very blessed to be on the

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park.
It's nice to have.

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You got there?
All right buddy.

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Well there we go.
There's the first part of our

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episode.
We got to talk with Keyon to

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Jenkins again.
We really appreciate him for

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coming on.
We really appreciate Travis

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Wells for giving us the
opportunity.

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Travis thank you, man.
You don't know, you know, with

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two guys that just started a fun
podcast in February at 2020.

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I don't think.
I think Wildest Dreams Braun,

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you know.
We've got an interview to White

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and Darrell and now, you know,
interviewing something like when

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like kyanka, who clearly on this
team this year is making an

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impact.
It's Sam big-time rising star on

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the team for sure big-time
Rising Star.

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Absolutely.
So we'll go ahead and shut that

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and we're going to move on.
And we've got to recap it

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unfortunately, you know, Kiante
just talked about it.

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There about Coach prize, message
about being disciplined about

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sticking together throughout it.
But we do need to take a look

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back at Virginia and you know,
talk about a few things.

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Obviously, everybody watch
Thursday night hook.

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He's go down 3310 to The
Mountaineers in the Black

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Diamond trophy game Hokies go to
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And you know what we've been
doing normally is we've been

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kind of looking offense defense
but now we're four games in,

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right?
Brian and you were having a

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conversation on Friday You know.
What can be fixed, what can't be

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fixed?
What's going well, and what's

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kind of still that TBD Dairy.
So that's how we're going to

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kind of dress it tonight.
And, and I love that Keon.

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So, kind of already talked about
it as we led, the episode talked

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about being disciplined, talked
about them working on the

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penalties, because that is
probably one of the biggest

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things that we've already seen
it fixed once.

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But now, can they get back in
one more time and get it

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corrected and keep it correct.
What do you think Ron?

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Yeah, I think it's the
consistency with it and I like

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that.
I know he alluded to it with

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the, with the question.
There we saw it come down with

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the, with the interview with
prior today.

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Captains have instituted, you
know, some some sort of

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Correction punishment should
penalties like this continue.

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I think that, you know, having
that incentive, I think that's a

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good incentive to have for the
team.

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It makes them accountable for,
for what they do on the field.

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And, you know, again, it's a
correctable thing.

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We've Got we got a lot of
penalties that lengthened drives

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into drives, you know, another
15 for 132 total you like to cut

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both of those numbers at least
in half.

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Yes, at least in half at least
in half.

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So you know if we were in that
six to seven for 460 65, you

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know, I wouldn't have as much to
complain about.

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But you know, when you get kind
of in that 10 to 15 range.

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That's when it's like, all
right, some of these are are

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ones that we shouldn't be
committing and it hurts even

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more when you have ones that
are, you know, those, those

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Drive killers in those Drive
extenders.

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Those are the ones that take
points off the board, put points

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on the board for the other team.
Absolutely I want to give a

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shout out here.
David Cunningham put a really

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good tweet at the end of that
game, talking about penalties.

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And you know the pi pass is.
I think the aggressiveness of

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the defense we're just going to
see more and I read We'll do it.

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Put up one of the posters on TS
L said, you know, we're already

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at the number of pi penalties of
where we were last year.

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But the god honest truth is our,
our pest defense is a hell of a

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lot better than it was last year
already.

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So are you okay, you know, can
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If overall the defense is
better?

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I think we absolutely can, but
it's the other shit that kind of

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drives us crazy.
Indefinitely rise.

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Brian crazy, two false starts
and illegal substitution in the

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legal snap and offside.
There will be a delay of game

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penalty.
Those are the ones that just

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their nicking you.
Well, that's up here.

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Yeah, it's up here.
Yeah, there you go.

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It's one thing to be in the
moment and make a mistake.

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It's another thing to make a
mental error and especially when

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you making those mental errors
in your own stadium, you know,

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it's not you're not affected by
the crowd noise.

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You're not affected by, you
know, these ancillary factors of

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the game, you're affected by
your mental state.

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You got to make sure that you're
playing smart and I think we

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need to see a little bit more of
that.

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And I think the accountability
is going to help on that front

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because now you're just your
teammate.

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Accountability is important.
But teammate.

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Accountability that has, you
know, something behind it.

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I think you know is only going
to reinforce that but it's also

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good to know that coach pry not
stuck in his ways right because

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clearly they have there had been
things done.

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Prior to attempt to fix the
penalties and he's not going

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back to the well, one more time.
He's immediately saying, okay,

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we need to make a change for it
because, you know, it's, it's

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linked, it's reared, its head
again.

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So clearly what he said were two
data points is enough.

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Yeah I don't I don't need any
more data points to say that we

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need to address this differently
so you got to respect him.

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Not just sitting back and
saying, we do what we do.

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You know if things become a
Bigger problem than he he sees,

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or than they should be.
Then they are addressed, you

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know, whether whether this turns
out in helps on the field, but

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at least, you know, you're not
just saying our, we're going to

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do what we do.
This is what we do.

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Yeah, keep it moving, keep it
moving.

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Now, we are going to kind of go
a little bit towards the game

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itself, those rest for fucking
horrible.

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And if you only want to get
Brian hot asking about hands to

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the face, the one that they got
Pollard on Brian's texted me.

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Fucking bullshit.
They've done it to us at least

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four times.
If you're going to call it,

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throw it both ways because it's
clearly there in front of you

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for them.
That was my probably I'll be

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look at the replay.
It's obvious foul on Pollard.

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I mean, it is what it is.
But, yeah, I mean between that,

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and Milam holding, every time
they went to the perimeter,

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like, every time, like blatant
holding, every time they ran ran

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the ball to the perimeter.
Like, You know, flags are flags,

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mistakes are mistakes, but call
it both ways, call it both ways,

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and then don't call bullshit.
Because that personal foul

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roughing the QB on Dax, it was
bullshit Daniel's in his motion

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to throw Dax did nothing but
shove he didn't drive him to the

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ground, he didn't follow with
him.

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It was simply, he was doing
exactly what you're taught to do

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drive.
He didn't do anything illegal.

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He didn't do anything dangerous.
But it seemed like on fourth

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down.
That was the time that there's a

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flag.
It wasn't in even though I think

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at that point in time was a
six-point game, they would go

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score the touchdown and turn it
to 13.

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It was a momentum swinging flag.
Do I think we could have drove

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the film potentially taking the
lead?

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Probably not offense.
Did not look good on Thursday

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night, especially in the second
half, especially in the second

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half.
I mean, at least the first half,

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we had some moves.
We had some chances the second

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half just look Dreadful.
The second half.

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We had scoring opportunity.
I'm sorry.

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The first half, we had scored
opportunities.

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We put 10 on the board in the
second half.

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Yeah yeah.
So you know I just don't like

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that like because you're
essentially taking every

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opportunity the defense has a
way because that being a penalty

446
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,200
basically makes every
quarterback just say well I'm

447
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,700
going to throw it because if
he's going to throw the flag

448
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,600
whether I complete the pass or
not we're going to get a first

449
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,700
down so yeah.
All right, let's go to something

450
00:24:40,700 --> 00:24:43,800
else and it's actually I love to
have any countdown because some

451
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,400
of the points were talking about
it sounds like Daria.

452
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,600
Dressing and it's talking about
the pressing of the players and

453
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,800
one of our good buddies, JJ
Singleton chat with them all the

454
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,600
time, put a little something out
there.

455
00:24:55,100 --> 00:24:57,000
Brian, you sort of echo to in
it.

456
00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:02,000
Basically, when he says, when he
says price saying, the that the

457
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,400
players start pressing, he's
basically saying the players are

458
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,500
realizing that individually.
They're outmatched.

459
00:25:08,500 --> 00:25:11,500
And when they quit working
together, what was Chianti?

460
00:25:11,500 --> 00:25:13,900
Talking about staying together
working as a team.

461
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,300
That's when the game playing
crumbles.

462
00:25:17,100 --> 00:25:25,700
And, you know, the question is,
we saw it in b.c. you are alive

463
00:25:25,700 --> 00:25:27,800
at hand.
I watch every snap at the game

464
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,000
here at the house against BC,
they didn't press against BC.

465
00:25:31,700 --> 00:25:36,700
They just let that game come to
them and to this point

466
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,600
definitely the best both sides
of the ball is played.

467
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,800
Yeah, I mean, you thought you
talked to Big about trusting

468
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,700
your Technique leaning on your
Technique instead of you know,

469
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:52,400
pressing too hard to make a play
if you lean on your Technique,

470
00:25:52,900 --> 00:25:55,400
And you're playing within the
system, you're going to put

471
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,000
yourself in a position to make a
play.

472
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:04,900
You don't need to kind of play
with outside that framework and

473
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,500
yeah, you might, you might get
one play where you blow

474
00:26:07,500 --> 00:26:09,300
something up.
But if you keep doing that

475
00:26:09,300 --> 00:26:12,800
consistently, you're going to,
you know, make a stupid penalty

476
00:26:12,900 --> 00:26:16,200
or be out of position because,
you know, you trust your

477
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,100
instincts too much.
Instead of what the what the

478
00:26:18,100 --> 00:26:19,700
offense was telling me where the
play is going.

479
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,200
You know, there are a lot of
things there, where, you know,

480
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:26,200
little things that one or two
players are doing a few plays

481
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,200
here there, and all of a sudden,
You know it's not quite going

482
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:33,400
the way you want to and you
couple that with with how much

483
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,100
the defense was on the field in
the second half and that's

484
00:26:36,100 --> 00:26:39,500
that's kind of why you saw, you
know, a tight game, balloon kind

485
00:26:39,500 --> 00:26:42,000
of late as we're going down the
stretch there.

486
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,100
Yeah, absolutely.
And you know, we were struggling

487
00:26:47,100 --> 00:26:49,200
on the interior defensive line,
anyway.

488
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,800
So I think to your point when
those guys were trying to press

489
00:26:52,300 --> 00:26:55,400
slightly getting out of
position, you play the offensive

490
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,500
line, I'm sure they were.
When you saw an interior

491
00:26:57,500 --> 00:27:00,300
defensive lineman, get out of
position, it was you looked your

492
00:27:00,300 --> 00:27:03,300
chops like well, now I can
easily drive you off your spot

493
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,200
and we're going to be at open
lanes, up, or sometimes run

494
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,800
themselves out of the play where
I get it, I get an extra block.

495
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,500
Now, I've got now down extra man
is blocked because somebody ran

496
00:27:12,500 --> 00:27:14,100
themselves out of the play.
Gonna be a hero.

497
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:18,100
Yep.
So again, I think we've seen

498
00:27:18,100 --> 00:27:20,000
quickly already with the
penalties.

499
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,600
Kind of like the pressing.
We kind of, we saw the team

500
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,300
press, two games.
We've seen the team kind of not

501
00:27:25,300 --> 00:27:28,000
press for two games and the
results are, you know, the

502
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,000
proofs in the pudding.
Let's flip over this because

503
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,500
this is something, you know, pry
seems like one of those guys he

504
00:27:34,500 --> 00:27:39,000
is very self-aware and we've
talked about game management,

505
00:27:40,100 --> 00:27:42,200
you know, one of the big things
he did.

506
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,700
He said, It straight out.
He did not call a good

507
00:27:46,700 --> 00:27:49,600
two-minute situation at the end
of the first half.

508
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:55,800
He said in and I got from that
was him making the decisions of

509
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,500
they were playing the out of
bounds ball, not using the

510
00:27:58,508 --> 00:28:00,700
middle of the field.
Potential using timeouts, drain

511
00:28:00,700 --> 00:28:03,800
the clock a little bit more.
I see him saying about that.

512
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:09,000
Also, CM saying how he actually
called defensively, so you know

513
00:28:09,700 --> 00:28:14,000
somebody who's already kind of,
it's the old, you know, if you

514
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,900
know yourself, you can conquer
the world.

515
00:28:15,900 --> 00:28:18,600
It seems like he knows himself.
He's already known where his

516
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,500
errors are.
Let's see.

517
00:28:20,700 --> 00:28:23,600
That's fixed, especially in
those two minute drills and

518
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,300
crucial where he's got to make
decisions.

519
00:28:25,300 --> 00:28:29,500
Not only calling the plays, but,
you know, how we attack at the

520
00:28:29,500 --> 00:28:32,600
end of the half here.
Yeah.

521
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:37,700
And you know, I didn't mind
being aggressive with the pass

522
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,700
on some of those down, but as we
said, as we were getting further

523
00:28:42,700 --> 00:28:46,500
into that drive and as we got to
third down, let's get ones that

524
00:28:46,500 --> 00:28:49,400
are definitely completions.
So even if we don't get the

525
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:53,200
first down and convert it, you
know the clock runs, we get more

526
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:57,100
time off of it before we punt
down and give Less West Virginia

527
00:28:57,100 --> 00:29:00,600
less time to have another drive
and get some more points before

528
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,100
half.
In the same goes in the other

529
00:29:03,100 --> 00:29:06,000
direction because obviously
there was a couple big plays

530
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,600
there that kind of got them in
the position where they could

531
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:12,700
score.
So, you know, I like owning it,

532
00:29:12,700 --> 00:29:15,900
I like saying, hey, we can still
get better, you know, the staff

533
00:29:15,900 --> 00:29:18,900
can still get better, it's still
a work-in-progress everybody

534
00:29:18,900 --> 00:29:23,400
still working to try to get this
thing into a well-oiled machine

535
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,500
and it's not there yet.
We saw that against West

536
00:29:25,500 --> 00:29:27,700
Virginia.
I think we have seen that in the

537
00:29:27,700 --> 00:29:30,800
first four games altogether
where where BC is probably the

538
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,900
best.
A three-phase.

539
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,400
Yeah, yeah, plus coaching effort
that we've seen so far, the

540
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:40,000
other three games.
There are a lot to, to work on

541
00:29:40,100 --> 00:29:45,100
and I think, recognizing that
and putting things in place that

542
00:29:45,100 --> 00:29:47,700
can help with that or a good
sign of where we're heading.

543
00:29:47,900 --> 00:29:50,000
But we got it, we got to start
seeing some of the results to,

544
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,400
right.
Absolutely, we've got to see the

545
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:58,500
results there and I will say one
thing and I don't know how it

546
00:29:58,500 --> 00:30:00,300
didn't.
Get reviewed the pump by Peter

547
00:30:00,300 --> 00:30:03,300
Moore.
Near the end of the first half,

548
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,500
they gave it a Touchback.
I think that needed to be looked

549
00:30:06,500 --> 00:30:09,400
at because that ball looked like
it went out about the two inch

550
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,300
line.
It wasn't challenged.

551
00:30:11,300 --> 00:30:13,700
I don't know how that, you know,
I feel like the college, you can

552
00:30:13,708 --> 00:30:16,300
challenge anything every place.
Look at but.

553
00:30:16,300 --> 00:30:19,200
Well I mean that that was a
change of possession so it

554
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,800
should have been automatically
reviewed by the booth.

555
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,600
Yeah, but it was no, it's what I
don't like some time out, TV

556
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,900
Productions because you looked
at when I looked at that play it

557
00:30:27,900 --> 00:30:29,900
was like I don't know if you
felt like I did.

558
00:30:29,900 --> 00:30:32,300
I saw him like holy crap.
He just I'm down at the inch

559
00:30:32,300 --> 00:30:35,600
line like and they were running
the ball good.

560
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,900
But when that but we had got
them a couple times in the

561
00:30:38,900 --> 00:30:43,100
backfield and it's like is this
a momentum changer where we get

562
00:30:43,100 --> 00:30:46,000
aggressive?
Someone blows up the play, but

563
00:30:46,100 --> 00:30:48,700
they never showed anything.
We never saw that.

564
00:30:48,700 --> 00:30:51,500
It wasn't that classic one that
you see where it actually hits

565
00:30:51,500 --> 00:30:54,200
the fucking pile on.
Like usually that oh that's

566
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,600
black and white.
You know, this this was

567
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,700
something that from the angle
and the production that we had

568
00:31:00,300 --> 00:31:03,400
it look very Very close.
Like it went out, just short of

569
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,100
the goal line, but actually will
never know.

570
00:31:06,100 --> 00:31:10,300
You know, we'll never know TV
producers, don't show us a

571
00:31:10,308 --> 00:31:12,800
couple of the other things.
And I think, we talked about

572
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,700
that game management and I think
he may have kind of showed his

573
00:31:15,700 --> 00:31:18,200
cards a little bit when we went
for it on fourth.

574
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,200
And one he says, this is a team
that has to get those 14 ones.

575
00:31:21,700 --> 00:31:25,400
This is a team that, you know,
when it's when we're when we get

576
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,700
down inside the 30.
I think if it's 4th and 1, I

577
00:31:27,700 --> 00:31:29,800
think we're going to we're going
to be going forward a lot this

578
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,000
weekend.
I think he I think he's already

579
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,800
come to the realization.
We are struggling to move the

580
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,600
ball and to get point.
So when you get down there, why

581
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,700
not maximize your opportunity,
right?

582
00:31:43,100 --> 00:31:45,800
Yeah, we're struggling with
consistency in the passing game

583
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:50,200
and we're struggling with just
putting all the pieces together

584
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,900
in the running game where we can
consistently get yards when we

585
00:31:52,900 --> 00:31:56,500
need them.
You know, right now we're just

586
00:31:56,500 --> 00:32:01,700
not moving enough bodies in the
with the The offensive line for

587
00:32:01,700 --> 00:32:05,500
that, run game to be consistent.
You know, we've seen stretches

588
00:32:05,500 --> 00:32:08,200
where we have some big plays,
some well block plays, but we

589
00:32:08,208 --> 00:32:12,200
haven't seen it consistently
enough where you can lean on

590
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,400
that game.
But for an offense that's

591
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,100
operating.
The way our is is if we don't

592
00:32:18,100 --> 00:32:20,900
have an effective running game,
it's hard to work.

593
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:22,900
Yeah.
A third of your offense.

594
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,200
I mean, when you're talking
about rpos, when you're talking

595
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,300
about play-action, none of that
works.

596
00:32:28,300 --> 00:32:30,500
If you don't have a running
game.

597
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:36,300
That is threatening the defense
100% sort of the last thing.

598
00:32:36,300 --> 00:32:38,900
In this, I put it under game
management because essentially

599
00:32:38,900 --> 00:32:42,700
it's coaching and something
we've already seen coach

600
00:32:42,700 --> 00:32:44,200
admitted.
This was not a good tackling

601
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,300
game, I will say it was the
worst of the year.

602
00:32:47,700 --> 00:32:50,600
It definitely ranks a hell of a
lot higher than the last two

603
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:54,100
years but he immediately address
I mean no for real.

604
00:32:54,100 --> 00:32:56,800
Like yeah this was the worst
tackling and we had all year and

605
00:32:56,808 --> 00:32:59,700
it was still not if this is a
tackling game from last year

606
00:32:59,700 --> 00:33:02,800
would have been upper Third.
But this year, it's in the

607
00:33:02,808 --> 00:33:06,600
bottom this year, it's in the at
the very bottom so that that

608
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,200
tells you the the progress that
we made and then the progress

609
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,900
that we still have have to make
right again.

610
00:33:13,100 --> 00:33:14,800
But again, it's he addressing
it.

611
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:19,900
And immediately I mean if we
probably have key on te for five

612
00:33:19,900 --> 00:33:24,200
to ten more minutes, I'm, you
know, again, we were we were

613
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,800
blessed to have him on and, you
know, we probably get to talk to

614
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,300
him for 45 minutes but we're not
done.

615
00:33:29,300 --> 00:33:30,600
We're going to ask some good
questions.

616
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,800
Let him go about his day.
It probably would have got into

617
00:33:33,900 --> 00:33:36,800
where the tackling drills,
although more intense this week

618
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:42,800
because from that presser
Saturday night, yeah, Saturday

619
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,900
night, Saturday night or
Thursday night, excuse me.

620
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,500
I have a feeling that they were
working a little bit harder and

621
00:33:49,500 --> 00:33:51,600
I'm tackling drills this week to
get back to the technique.

622
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:55,700
We saw games 1, through 3, Yeah,
and most of it I think was

623
00:33:55,700 --> 00:33:59,800
pressing was dive and we had
kind of early on there.

624
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:07,300
The one where you know Armani
just didn't break down, did make

625
00:34:07,300 --> 00:34:10,800
the play result in the first
down that led to a long drive

626
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:15,300
where it could have been getting
off the field with West

627
00:34:15,300 --> 00:34:16,600
Virginia.
Backed up deep in their own

628
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,300
territory.
So, you know, it's the little

629
00:34:19,300 --> 00:34:21,500
things that kind of add up to
the big things.

630
00:34:22,500 --> 00:34:26,400
And I think if we Clean up
those, those little things.

631
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,500
And again, lean on our technique
like, like, he on, Tim was

632
00:34:29,500 --> 00:34:32,900
talking about like, Coach Brown
talks about, we're going to see

633
00:34:32,900 --> 00:34:36,900
some improvement on that front.
Abso-freakin'-lutely gonna give

634
00:34:36,900 --> 00:34:39,800
a couple shout outs here.
We got Jerry won't shout out.

635
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,600
Jerry watching us tonight.
Shallot Levar shout-out, Low

636
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,199
Country.
Living got two of them on

637
00:34:45,199 --> 00:34:48,300
YouTube, on on Facebook.
We appreciate you guys joining

638
00:34:48,300 --> 00:34:51,400
us tonight.
All right, they was your things

639
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,900
that are bad that we feel like
can get fixed now.

640
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,100
I'll say this, we did do the old
with what's bad.

641
00:34:57,100 --> 00:34:59,900
That's going to be really tough
to be fixed this year and I

642
00:34:59,908 --> 00:35:04,200
think it kind of showed out on
Thursday night in.

643
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:09,200
That is the size of our interior
defensive line, not necessarily

644
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,600
the players but the simple sighs
Josh bougas, the heaviest guide

645
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:16,000
about 305 then.
It's Kendricks and then, you

646
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:20,500
know, Pollard and Pinette as
good as they are, they're going

647
00:35:20,500 --> 00:35:24,000
to 80 to 85 their undersized
defensive interior.

648
00:35:24,100 --> 00:35:27,800
Offensive lineman, but Brian me
and you've kind of been just

649
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,900
kind of going through the
schedule and there's only a

650
00:35:30,900 --> 00:35:33,700
handful more teams that are
going to run the power to run,

651
00:35:33,700 --> 00:35:36,600
power plays or as big as West
Virginia are the rest of the

652
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,700
year.
So it's something we can't fix.

653
00:35:38,700 --> 00:35:43,200
But it's not like we're playing
a bunch of Wisconsin's for

654
00:35:43,900 --> 00:35:49,000
Iowa's between now and November.
Yeah I think we have maybe one

655
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:53,000
or two offensive lines on the
schedule that can move bodies

656
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:58,100
like what we saw.
All West Virginia do so size

657
00:35:58,100 --> 00:36:03,800
becomes less of a problem.
You know when we look at the

658
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,500
things that are going to be
struggle to get fixed.

659
00:36:05,500 --> 00:36:09,100
Obviously you can't all of a
sudden put 10 15 pounds on a

660
00:36:09,107 --> 00:36:13,300
defensive lineman right now.
I don't see the Run blocking

661
00:36:13,300 --> 00:36:16,500
getting significantly better
within this offense.

662
00:36:17,100 --> 00:36:20,300
What I do see and what I think
will happen is I think that

663
00:36:20,300 --> 00:36:24,500
we'll see scheme changes in
different approaches to how we

664
00:36:24,500 --> 00:36:28,600
attack teams with our running
game because we're going to

665
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,800
still have to be effective
somewhat in the running game in

666
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,700
order to have success in this
offense.

667
00:36:34,300 --> 00:36:38,600
So if if running up the middle
isn't working, if that duo in

668
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,800
the in the power isn't working.
We're going to have to attack

669
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,600
the perimeter with some more
that pin and pull that we saw

670
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:49,400
have some success against Boston
College and some other things

671
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:53,200
that this offense can do.
So Yeah, I think looking at the

672
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,000
tape that's the thing that we
would have to do first is start

673
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,500
working attacking the perimeter,
with the running game, a little

674
00:36:59,500 --> 00:37:03,200
bit more, and hopefully that can
give us a little bit of

675
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,900
breathing room where we don't
have to move as many bodies

676
00:37:05,900 --> 00:37:09,000
inside The Tackle Box.
Because right now that's what

677
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,400
we're struggling with the most
is getting guys out of gaps.

678
00:37:12,100 --> 00:37:14,500
You know the holes are too small
and the ones that are there.

679
00:37:14,900 --> 00:37:18,100
Sometimes we're one or two
assignments away from, you know

680
00:37:18,107 --> 00:37:20,400
that play working.
Let's see if we can spread

681
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,700
things out a little bit.
It test them on the edges, a

682
00:37:22,707 --> 00:37:26,400
little more and and get some
guys blocking in space instead

683
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:31,700
of inside a phone booth.
Absolutely into your point.

684
00:37:31,700 --> 00:37:36,400
You kind of mentioned to me
Friday when we talk, it's really

685
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:40,100
tough to change.
Philosophical philosophically a

686
00:37:40,100 --> 00:37:42,700
run game.
And so I think specially going,

687
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:47,000
especially going from a Zone, a
true Zone, okay, why do you

688
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,900
spread you out and to where now
you've got to move bodies out of

689
00:37:49,900 --> 00:37:52,100
gaps.
You know you're blocking down.

690
00:37:52,100 --> 00:37:54,200
You're using leverage that
you're using power.

691
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,900
It's a different skill set.
Some guys have both some guys,

692
00:37:57,900 --> 00:38:02,600
don't Um, and some guys take
longer to develop it as they

693
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,300
practice it.
So, you know it's going to be a

694
00:38:04,300 --> 00:38:06,300
work in progress.
They might be a work in progress

695
00:38:06,300 --> 00:38:08,200
that never fool gets finished
the season.

696
00:38:09,500 --> 00:38:10,900
Yep.
Absolutely.

697
00:38:10,900 --> 00:38:14,100
Absolutely.
Alright, couple other things,

698
00:38:14,100 --> 00:38:17,300
you know, the the quarterback
talk of course is going to be on

699
00:38:17,300 --> 00:38:21,900
fire as soon as that game ended
with some of the overthrows and

700
00:38:21,900 --> 00:38:24,800
Miss throws.
But I think me and your kind of

701
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:31,200
to the point of You know when
things aren't going well, you

702
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,600
know, regardless of the game
that we're just going to live

703
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,100
with Grant Wells in the risks,
he takes and some of the stuff

704
00:38:37,100 --> 00:38:45,600
he does because it's it's not
like that go does Jason Brown

705
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,300
potentially give you a better
chance to win.

706
00:38:47,500 --> 00:38:50,700
Maybe maybe he does but then
we're going back to something.

707
00:38:50,700 --> 00:38:54,100
Everybody's been pissed off when
since 2018 there's been

708
00:38:54,100 --> 00:38:56,300
absolutely no consistent, the
quarterback position for the

709
00:38:56,308 --> 00:38:57,600
Hokies.
Yeah.

710
00:38:57,900 --> 00:39:00,200
Right.
So absolutely.

711
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,000
And what do you all talk about
Jason Brown?

712
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:06,100
Like if you're going to Jason
Brown at best you're going to a

713
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,800
six to eight-week fix, right?
Yeah, likes it.

714
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:15,000
That's all you.
It's all your doing, you know, I

715
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:19,100
think right now the best thing
to do is to to keep rolling with

716
00:39:19,100 --> 00:39:21,700
Wells because number one, I
think in terms of arm Talent, he

717
00:39:21,700 --> 00:39:26,300
gives us the best chance to win.
And number two, you want to at

718
00:39:26,300 --> 00:39:29,200
least give him his best.
A shot to show whether he's the

719
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,800
guy for the next two years, or
whether you're back at the

720
00:39:31,808 --> 00:39:36,000
drawing board.
This offseason Vega.

721
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,400
Because at least if he's still
in the house if he's potentially

722
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,600
not the guy, and he doesn't grow
between now and November.

723
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:48,100
Or hopefully now in January that
you can have the conversation

724
00:39:48,100 --> 00:39:52,200
with them and say, you know,
it's got to be open like you did

725
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,100
not do enough to set yourself
apart for potentially other

726
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,300
guys, we can potentially bring
into this.

727
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:02,800
Yeah, I mean, when we look at,
you know, his play, you know,

728
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,800
he's based on good plays.
There are moments where you're

729
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:09,100
like, all right, I can see this
working but then there's moments

730
00:40:09,100 --> 00:40:14,000
where he, you know, locks onto a
receiver, his primary right out.

731
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,900
The gate doesn't really ever
come off of it makes the throw

732
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,800
even though there might be some
check Downs there or a second or

733
00:40:20,808 --> 00:40:22,600
third read that might become an
open.

734
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,000
You know, there's a couple,
overthrows, some excusable, some

735
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:31,800
not, you know, we've seen things
that are really good and we've

736
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,900
seen things that he's got to
Gone in.

737
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:39,800
Like I said, I think we've seen
enough where You know, he's

738
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:43,700
going to need to be the guy the
rest of the way out but if we

739
00:40:43,700 --> 00:40:46,700
don't start seeing some progress
here, I think that's when you're

740
00:40:46,700 --> 00:40:50,900
saying all right, well we know
he's the solution for this year

741
00:40:50,900 --> 00:40:54,200
but he's not the next not the
solution for next 2 years.

742
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,500
Let's see what else we could
bring in here and see if we can

743
00:40:56,500 --> 00:40:59,300
Elevate that position.
So absolutely still a work in

744
00:40:59,300 --> 00:41:01,400
progress right now still work in
progress.

745
00:41:01,500 --> 00:41:04,200
Great point.
Now the other thing and this has

746
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:08,000
been discussed long, this has
been discussing spring, its

747
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,300
Talent up to keep Fishing
groups, there's nothing we can

748
00:41:10,300 --> 00:41:14,900
change about that this year, all
that we can do is hope that the

749
00:41:14,900 --> 00:41:18,400
coaching staff makes the
decisions of who put you in the

750
00:41:18,408 --> 00:41:22,700
best position for this year.
But also who has the opportunity

751
00:41:22,700 --> 00:41:27,700
to get playing time this year
that you can get, get the film,

752
00:41:27,700 --> 00:41:31,400
get them on tape to start
keychain and getting ready for

753
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:37,300
the next two to three seasons.
Yeah, I mean that's that's part

754
00:41:37,300 --> 00:41:39,000
of the thing that, you know,
we're going to struggle.

755
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,300
Yes.
Is that think this week, think

756
00:41:41,300 --> 00:41:44,200
this week at the line that the
Mike linebacker that was that

757
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,800
depth chart that that kind of
shocked me and you, but that's

758
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,300
somebody who's going to
potentially, you know, will will

759
00:41:50,300 --> 00:41:53,000
Johnson, right?
Dip will Johnson this Dowdy

760
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,600
number to Mike at least for UNC
at least for you and see but

761
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,000
it's in it's like whoa, wasting
word Keyshawn.

762
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,300
Where's Dean Ferguson?
It's like, well, is this a week

763
00:42:02,300 --> 00:42:05,800
where they get will Johnson some
And he's already been,

764
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,300
redshirted he's doing some
things on special teams.

765
00:42:08,300 --> 00:42:10,600
Is he get the run this week to
say?

766
00:42:10,900 --> 00:42:14,700
He's a redshirt freshman, let's
get tape where we can, you know,

767
00:42:14,700 --> 00:42:17,800
analyze diagnose what he does.
Well, and what can he do?

768
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,800
Well to actually next year or
the year after?

769
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,600
Well, I think also in terms of
matchups, this is a team and

770
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,900
we're going to talk about it
after the break here.

771
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:30,500
You know what they like to do?
Will Johnson, skillset probably

772
00:42:30,900 --> 00:42:34,200
fits a lot more than a Keyshawn
artists this week.

773
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,900
So, you know, if you're going to
have a number two, we know and

774
00:42:38,900 --> 00:42:42,100
we've seen the twos get, you
know, at least a handful of

775
00:42:42,100 --> 00:42:44,400
series every week.
Yep.

776
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,200
We have so far so at least every
week.

777
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:52,100
So if we're looking at matchups
that's definitely a matchup

778
00:42:52,100 --> 00:42:53,200
down.
Like I said, whether that

779
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,800
carries over week to week after
this, that's that's going to be

780
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,000
the question.
But I like this move in terms of

781
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:04,400
this week, we see Kelly Lawson,
now starting at will him in

782
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,300
Keller.
Or it will.

783
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:10,000
I mean, as an athletic group,
right there with those two kids.

784
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,700
Yeah.
And and you know that

785
00:43:12,700 --> 00:43:17,300
linebacking room is shaping up
and it's still, you know,

786
00:43:17,300 --> 00:43:20,000
there's still some some fiddling
going on with it.

787
00:43:20,300 --> 00:43:23,300
But we've seen a big step
forward with that group this

788
00:43:23,300 --> 00:43:28,000
year and I think as we kind of
get more tape and Seymour would

789
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,400
have got guys are doing against
live competition against better

790
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,300
competition.
It's only going to get better

791
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:36,700
because we'll have a lot more.
Our understanding of what what

792
00:43:36,700 --> 00:43:40,100
these guys do well now and it's
also know a guy like counted

793
00:43:40,100 --> 00:43:43,300
Jenkins has the eligibility to
come back next year where he is

794
00:43:43,300 --> 00:43:47,700
really evolved into that same
position and you know with him

795
00:43:47,700 --> 00:43:50,400
and Walker you've got a good
Central, you've got a good one

796
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,700
to out there to be very, very
comfortable with.

797
00:43:54,100 --> 00:44:00,700
All right let's go to what
steady let's just say it is as

798
00:44:00,700 --> 00:44:03,200
much as the we're going to
malign the offensive line.

799
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,800
The way the Run blocking is
happened Has Pros been damn

800
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:10,300
good.
I mean if the sacks are happen

801
00:44:10,300 --> 00:44:12,400
to the pressure happen, it's
cover pressure.

802
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:16,100
It's not You know, Brian you
said you've been impressed with

803
00:44:16,100 --> 00:44:19,400
how this groups look because
they were a solid group, a

804
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,400
couple guys who played last year
with the exception of one

805
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:25,200
individual.
Yeah, you know, there's one that

806
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,000
the one guy that sells there's
one guy that still struggling

807
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:29,900
pretty bad and it makes no
sense.

808
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:35,400
It makes no sense Parker.
But as I mean, I think overall

809
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,100
I'm satisfied I wouldn't say I'm
impressed but I'm definitely

810
00:44:38,100 --> 00:44:42,600
satisfied with the past, bro.
Like I said, I think we could

811
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,000
see some improvement from
Parker.

812
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:50,500
He's been the weakest link both
in the Run game in the pass game

813
00:44:50,700 --> 00:44:57,100
combined, in my opinion.
If if some of that can continue

814
00:44:57,100 --> 00:45:01,300
to go and he can put out more
tape, like he put out last year

815
00:45:01,300 --> 00:45:04,600
because he was a solid Solomon
pass / last year.

816
00:45:04,700 --> 00:45:06,300
I know, I know, it's limited
games.

817
00:45:06,300 --> 00:45:10,000
He only started a couple games
saw time and a lot of games

818
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:14,600
though and he had enough snaps
under his belt, where Past Pro

819
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,400
should not be the big problem
that it is for him.

820
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,400
Right now.
It just doesn't make me and you

821
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:24,400
talked about it the other day.
It's like you didn't think about

822
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,200
that.
He would be an issue like he had

823
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:30,600
solid game film.
He had good progression, you

824
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:34,700
know, not to not to downplay it.
Was he going to be first round

825
00:45:34,700 --> 00:45:37,400
pick?
Probably not, but the way he was

826
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,800
progressing, you felt like he
was going to be a very good for

827
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:41,700
former for three more years
here.

828
00:45:42,100 --> 00:45:47,300
And it's just like, come
unraveled, So that's in fact if

829
00:45:47,300 --> 00:45:50,400
you if we just get Parker back
to what he did last year, it's

830
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,700
significantly makes the
offensive line better than what

831
00:45:53,700 --> 00:45:56,500
it is.
Both path Pro and Run game.

832
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,300
Yeah and it's weird because you
know I don't know if it's

833
00:46:00,300 --> 00:46:02,500
carrying over.
He's obviously thinking too

834
00:46:02,500 --> 00:46:05,700
much.
Just just looking at he's

835
00:46:05,700 --> 00:46:11,100
thinking too much and he's not
not processing and leaning on

836
00:46:11,100 --> 00:46:13,500
his technique quick enough in
the snap.

837
00:46:14,300 --> 00:46:18,600
And that's carrying over into is
his actual technique in terms of

838
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:23,600
the actual block itself.
Yeah, he's had bad technique.

839
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:29,100
He's gotten beaten inside.
Oh my God, if I'm rushing the

840
00:46:29,100 --> 00:46:33,000
passer, I'm crossing Parker
Clements face, every damn time.

841
00:46:35,700 --> 00:46:39,500
Every damn time, I'm crossing
his face screw Creek should

842
00:46:39,500 --> 00:46:42,800
screw screw Edge rush I am
Crossing his face and making him

843
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:46,700
have to power step and keep me
from getting to the quarterback

844
00:46:46,700 --> 00:46:51,700
inside.
So all right, all right, well,

845
00:46:51,700 --> 00:46:53,300
let's let's let's hit on a
couple more.

846
00:46:53,300 --> 00:46:56,500
Good things we already talked
about the linebackers, The Young

847
00:46:56,500 --> 00:47:00,300
and the old plane.
Good secondary play Man.

848
00:47:00,500 --> 00:47:06,300
I mean It's you can't you know,
the corners are played solid,

849
00:47:06,300 --> 00:47:08,000
the safeties have played really
good.

850
00:47:08,900 --> 00:47:13,100
There's secondary Place, good at
steady and you know, seeing Bree

851
00:47:13,100 --> 00:47:17,100
on Murray played well last week.
So it seems like those groups

852
00:47:17,100 --> 00:47:18,900
are.
They've got their footing.

853
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,600
Yeah.
I mean they've been playing well

854
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,800
overall being there's you know,
plays here there you can nitpick

855
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:26,800
for sure.
Yeah, you know, I've already

856
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,300
talked about, you know, Chapman,
missing the tackle on the edge

857
00:47:29,300 --> 00:47:32,100
there, you know, a couple
technique.

858
00:47:32,300 --> 00:47:35,400
Here, they're some of the
resulted in penalties, on that

859
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,900
resulted in catches.
But overall, the unit is

860
00:47:38,900 --> 00:47:42,700
playing.
Well, they've held in check some

861
00:47:42,700 --> 00:47:47,400
of the better receivers that
will see, not just, you know, in

862
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,800
the early part of the schedule,
but for the whole year.

863
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:55,500
So you know, if they can keep
that play up, as we kind of get

864
00:47:55,500 --> 00:47:59,000
deeper into conference play,
that's going to be huge but

865
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:00,600
they're doing, they're doing a
good job so far.

866
00:48:01,100 --> 00:48:04,300
Abso-freakin'-lutely.
You and Artie biddies are or

867
00:48:04,300 --> 00:48:06,400
what they are.
It's the running back room and I

868
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,500
know a lot of that's going to
hinge on and with the offensive

869
00:48:09,500 --> 00:48:13,600
line plays like but it's seeing
what we want to see and it

870
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,500
doesn't look like it's an
outside shot this week but

871
00:48:16,500 --> 00:48:20,800
seeing Malachi Thomas and
Keyshawn, King both be able to

872
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:24,600
play significant roles and I
think we have to put TVD on that

873
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:28,300
room until they're both on the
field because you've been

874
00:48:28,300 --> 00:48:32,800
talking about those perimeter
runs and, you know, The one

875
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,500
thing really good about Malachi
and you've praised it over and

876
00:48:35,500 --> 00:48:38,700
over is to be a young to a be a
back of his age.

877
00:48:39,300 --> 00:48:42,500
He is only his second year in
college in the way he ran.

878
00:48:42,500 --> 00:48:45,100
Last year, his vision is already
like a senior.

879
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:47,900
Yeah he's got he's got really
good Vision.

880
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:53,500
It's not like Khalil Herbert
level Vision but very few are no

881
00:48:53,500 --> 00:48:56,200
but it's really good especially
for the experience and he's had

882
00:48:56,200 --> 00:49:00,900
the offense so far, you know, a
little bit more vision is going

883
00:49:00,900 --> 00:49:02,600
to help this offense.
I mean, it's a difference

884
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:06,000
between a 1 or 2 yard gain for
5-yard, gain on.

885
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,600
A lot of these plays that were
looking at, just just picking

886
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,500
the right lane picking the
right, Ali setting the block up

887
00:49:12,500 --> 00:49:15,400
better, you know?
They're they're little things

888
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:19,400
that Kent can help this offense
to have a little bit more

889
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,500
consistency.
You know, I we're not going to

890
00:49:22,500 --> 00:49:25,900
see significant or drastic
change happened.

891
00:49:25,900 --> 00:49:30,800
Just because Malachi suddenly
inserted into the offense, but

892
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,300
we might see again, the small
things.

893
00:49:33,300 --> 00:49:36,000
We're we're now no longer
playing from behind the chains

894
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:40,700
on second and third down, you
know, if we can do that a little

895
00:49:40,700 --> 00:49:43,400
bit better, that makes things
easier for Grant Wells.

896
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,000
Now, they've got honor the
running the past on this third.

897
00:49:46,100 --> 00:49:49,400
Insurance versus there's third
and Long's you know play action

898
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,300
works a lot better on second
down.

899
00:49:51,300 --> 00:49:54,400
There's so many different things
that kind of open up.

900
00:49:54,500 --> 00:49:57,200
If you can have an effective
first down, run that gets you

901
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:00,800
three to four yards and Absalom.
And when we look at the wide

902
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,900
receiver room we're seeing you
know, guys take steps, right?

903
00:50:04,100 --> 00:50:07,600
We're that's the other one that
we're kind of, it's a work in

904
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:11,000
progress, but we've seen some
young guys, make some plays.

905
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,000
We've seen some young guys, make
some mistakes here there but

906
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:19,000
we're at least seeing Some
growth weeks a week, that's it.

907
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,000
We saw the Christian Moss.
You make some good plays against

908
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,800
West Virginia, after having a
big day against Wofford Step Up

909
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,600
in competition a little bit, we
still see his present in the

910
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:32,700
offense, so that's a positive.
Sign positive, take away, you

911
00:50:32,700 --> 00:50:35,400
know, we saw blue that had had
some opportunities against West

912
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,500
Virginia, a couple that he
wasn't able to capitalize on.

913
00:50:38,500 --> 00:50:40,200
But there were some
opportunities there, where he

914
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,700
was getting open, where he was
getting in a spot where he can

915
00:50:43,700 --> 00:50:47,000
make a play in the offense.
So, there's some positive

916
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:52,600
momentum in that group, but
there's still a lot of TBD and

917
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:54,700
pivoting back to the running
back room real quick.

918
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:59,600
When we talk about Malachi
coming back now, you've got two

919
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,200
guys that you can count on.
And I think that's when you

920
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:08,800
start seeing Bryce Duke, being
used in a few more packages.

921
00:51:10,500 --> 00:51:13,700
So that's my hope.
Is that because of Bryce Duke

922
00:51:13,700 --> 00:51:17,100
skill set?
Yeah, I think what he can do on

923
00:51:17,100 --> 00:51:20,900
the perimeter and will help us
because that's where we need to

924
00:51:20,908 --> 00:51:25,200
start getting a little bit.
Little bit better at attacking

925
00:51:26,300 --> 00:51:29,300
to take a little bit of pressure
off the interior offensive line.

926
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,800
So if Bryce do can get some more
run because of guys like Thomas

927
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,400
and King that you can lean on a
little bit for the rest of the

928
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,400
workload.
That's only going to help us

929
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:42,300
long-term.
Abso-freakin'-lutely Brian.

930
00:51:43,100 --> 00:51:47,700
So obviously a lot to unpack.
Obviously a lot of things that

931
00:51:47,700 --> 00:51:51,800
you know we we know we can't do
anything about this year, it's

932
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:53,900
going to take time, it's going
to take development.

933
00:51:54,700 --> 00:51:57,100
It's a lot of things.
We know if we clean up, we can

934
00:51:57,100 --> 00:52:00,000
become more competitive and
every game we play from now

935
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,100
until November.
So, hopefully we start seeing

936
00:52:02,100 --> 00:52:03,600
these things.
And again, talking with you on

937
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,900
to our last night, sounds like
the coach has already put things

938
00:52:05,900 --> 00:52:08,000
in place, which is what you want
to hear.

939
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:11,700
It's, we're not trying to The
same things, it's four games in

940
00:52:11,700 --> 00:52:13,700
certain things aren't working.
Let's change it up.

941
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:17,500
Alright Brian before we get into
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Alright, so now let's begin Know

952
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The Enemy UNC and Brian it's an
easy place to start.

953
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:54,800
We started with there.
Offense, man.

954
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,600
And let's talk about the man
under Center under the shotgun

955
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:00,500
snaps.
Drake May the quarterback, a six

956
00:53:00,500 --> 00:53:04,700
foot four 220-pound, redshirt
freshman.

957
00:53:04,700 --> 00:53:06,400
So he is pretty much a baby out
there.

958
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,200
Out of Myers, Park High School
and Hunter bills North Carolina

959
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:14,800
down near Charlotte 2021.
He was a Five Star Quarterback,

960
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:18,600
he was a top 25 player.
He was a cop for quarterback.

961
00:53:18,700 --> 00:53:22,200
He was the top player in the
state of North Carolina and I

962
00:53:22,207 --> 00:53:25,600
tell you what so far this Season
his statistics.

963
00:53:25,900 --> 00:53:29,500
He's living up to it man.
Already thrown for over 1,200

964
00:53:29,500 --> 00:53:33,600
yards. 16 touchdowns one pick
has a little wiggle in his game

965
00:53:34,100 --> 00:53:36,100
closely.
You know, averaging just over

966
00:53:36,100 --> 00:53:39,800
four and a half carry so when
you turn that tape on and you

967
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:43,900
had some really fun games to
watch this week, do it with this

968
00:53:43,900 --> 00:53:46,000
offense.
What are you seeing out of

969
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,000
Drake?
Me and what potentially could we

970
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,900
do?
Yeah.

971
00:53:50,900 --> 00:53:53,500
So what I'm seeing, I mean, he's
really quick at reading with the

972
00:53:53,500 --> 00:53:55,700
defense is giving him and taking
what's there.

973
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,600
That's probably his biggest
attribute in terms of being a

974
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:02,100
young player.
He's really good at identifying.

975
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,800
What a defense is doing and
taking what the offense kind of

976
00:54:05,808 --> 00:54:09,500
has that play there.
He's a good athlete.

977
00:54:09,500 --> 00:54:12,500
Probably a little bit better
athlete than we saw from Sam how

978
00:54:12,500 --> 00:54:16,800
last year at UNC, but the
difference is, he's very

979
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:18,400
decisive when he takes off and
runs.

980
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:23,400
So when he goes, he goes, he's
very decisive with it.

981
00:54:24,500 --> 00:54:27,500
There's no, there's no
questioning whether he's going

982
00:54:27,500 --> 00:54:31,600
to take off, he reads it.
If it's not, there, he's up.

983
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:33,400
He's making a play.
He's trying to get the get the

984
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:36,400
first down with his legs.
And he delivers them a curveball

985
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:37,700
at all levels of the The
defense.

986
00:54:37,700 --> 00:54:39,800
So you can throw a deep ball.
He throws even intermediate.

987
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,900
He throws short.
Probably some of the short

988
00:54:42,900 --> 00:54:47,800
accuracy is probably the biggest
thing he could work on, but he

989
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,200
can make all the throws at all.
The levels of the defense and

990
00:54:51,300 --> 00:54:53,600
you know, footwork pocket
mechanics are probably the

991
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,400
things that he could also work
on the most kind of get sloppy,

992
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,200
especially when he's feeling the
rush.

993
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:02,500
And he does again much like a
couple other quarterbacks we

994
00:55:02,500 --> 00:55:05,000
talked about this year, he does
take unnecessary hits when he

995
00:55:05,008 --> 00:55:06,700
breaks the pocket and tries to
make a play.

996
00:55:06,700 --> 00:55:11,000
So That might be an opportunity
where we get him to the ground

997
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,800
and get him to, where he's out
of his game a little bit.

998
00:55:14,500 --> 00:55:17,500
Well, I hear those last two
things and I feel like that is

999
00:55:17,900 --> 00:55:20,200
there's your key, right?
There's your big key for

1000
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:24,600
throwing him off, is getting to
him, getting him into those bad

1001
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,200
habits and taking the
unnecessary hits.

1002
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:30,300
Because how many times do you
see a guy who has some ability?

1003
00:55:30,900 --> 00:55:34,600
They make that one bad play and
get popped hard have to sit out

1004
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:38,100
a couple plays and then the next
thing, you know, The next

1005
00:55:38,100 --> 00:55:40,900
read-option, they're handing it
off and it doesn't even matter

1006
00:55:40,900 --> 00:55:44,300
if that ends crashed right now.
I'm not taking another hit

1007
00:55:44,300 --> 00:55:46,400
tonight.
Like that didn't feel good.

1008
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:50,600
Yeah yeah and they operate
within the within the RPO.

1009
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:54,200
So he is kind of put out there a
lot where he'll take.

1010
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:58,800
It's in the pocket but he also
again takes off and runs and he

1011
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:00,600
gives us.
He'll give us some opportunities

1012
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:04,600
where we can give him a pop and
make him a little bit hesitant.

1013
00:56:05,300 --> 00:56:08,000
And that's going to be the big
thing is Bring him when we have

1014
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,100
the chance and getting him off
his spot when he's in the

1015
00:56:10,100 --> 00:56:11,700
pocket.
Awesome.

1016
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:13,300
All right.
So there's a little bit on Drake

1017
00:56:13,300 --> 00:56:17,000
met the Carolina quarterback.
Let's flip now to obviously,

1018
00:56:17,100 --> 00:56:22,200
even though the guys only played
two games, Josh towns is second

1019
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:26,400
and Carolina interceptions which
is crazy because he only played

1020
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,500
the first in the gamers and
Notre Dame.

1021
00:56:28,900 --> 00:56:32,600
The 510 175 lb wide out of
Suwanee, Georgia and North

1022
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:37,200
Gwinnett, High School for Star,
when he came out in 2020 top, A

1023
00:56:37,207 --> 00:56:41,100
nationally, top 25 wide receiver
and top 15 in state of Georgia

1024
00:56:41,100 --> 00:56:46,000
which says a lot about a player
and again, only two games so far

1025
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,700
this year.
But again, like I said, already

1026
00:56:48,700 --> 00:56:51,300
second on the team in receptions
already leading the team and

1027
00:56:51,300 --> 00:56:55,600
touchdowns, what do we need to
worry about with Down's?

1028
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:57,400
Because I know he's a little bit
smaller of a guy.

1029
00:56:59,100 --> 00:57:03,600
I'm pretty much everything, but
deep down the sideline, he works

1030
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,500
out of the slot.
A lot that's primarily where

1031
00:57:06,500 --> 00:57:09,500
he's going to be running routes,
and he's great at running routes

1032
00:57:09,500 --> 00:57:12,700
great at changing direction.
Great with the ball in his

1033
00:57:12,700 --> 00:57:14,900
hands.
After the catch, he's going to

1034
00:57:14,908 --> 00:57:18,300
be the primary offensive Target
between the 20s, and he's going

1035
00:57:18,300 --> 00:57:20,800
to be the also, the primary Red
Zone Target.

1036
00:57:22,300 --> 00:57:25,200
And he's not really used as much
as a deep threat, but they will

1037
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:27,200
run him with some seem in some
fade.

1038
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:32,300
But not a ton of stuff deep down
the sideline, but when you get

1039
00:57:32,300 --> 00:57:34,000
in the Red Zone, look for the
fade.

1040
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:37,700
Look for the corner, you know,
look for those plays where he

1041
00:57:37,700 --> 00:57:41,100
can kind of use his athleticism
to get open, and High Point the

1042
00:57:41,100 --> 00:57:43,300
ball, and bring it down for a
big play.

1043
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:47,000
Absolutely.
So again, he was out a couple

1044
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:50,000
games and we're not going to
talk about anymore wide

1045
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,700
receivers tonight because
there's I'm going to talk about

1046
00:57:52,700 --> 00:57:56,500
a tight end next.
But also keep your ears open for

1047
00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:02,100
Kobe, Pacer Kobe face or leading
the team in receptions and

1048
00:58:02,100 --> 00:58:05,200
another one.
Jay Jay Jones, Jay Jones, bigger

1049
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:08,100
guy, averaging, almost 20 yards
of pop.

1050
00:58:08,100 --> 00:58:10,700
So, depending on what kind of
weather we're playing and you

1051
00:58:10,700 --> 00:58:12,500
may or may not hear from those
guys.

1052
00:58:12,900 --> 00:58:15,800
But once more Antoine green, is
there, is there a deep threat as

1053
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:17,300
well?
So I mean they've got weapons

1054
00:58:17,300 --> 00:58:20,800
all over the field but you know,
when you look at the one that

1055
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:24,400
can hurt you everywhere, it's
Josh downs.

1056
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:27,700
And Josh Downs, makes everybody
else's job a lot easier because

1057
00:58:27,700 --> 00:58:29,900
of Of everything that he can do.
Yep.

1058
00:58:30,300 --> 00:58:34,200
Let's flip and let's talk about
obviously Downs played, ain't

1059
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,700
Florida A&M played last week
against Notre Dame but he missed

1060
00:58:36,700 --> 00:58:40,700
that App State gaming, you Miss
Georgia, State, and in those

1061
00:58:40,700 --> 00:58:42,900
games.
Brian you looking at the tape

1062
00:58:42,900 --> 00:58:46,500
you kind of said they were going
tight in heavy and one of the

1063
00:58:46,500 --> 00:58:52,000
Titans, they targeted a ton was
Morales.

1064
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:57,700
Come on, Ari Morales A6, 2245
tight end at a buck Lake floor.

1065
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:01,000
Lincoln High School, 2019,
three-star.

1066
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:06,200
I mean already, you know in
those games with, you know, with

1067
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:10,100
Down's out you know, he had ten
reception, he's already had ten

1068
00:59:10,100 --> 00:59:14,300
receptions for over 140 yards
this year and it really looked

1069
00:59:14,300 --> 00:59:17,300
like give credit to their
offense, went with Down's going

1070
00:59:17,300 --> 00:59:20,100
out.
They sort of like look between

1071
00:59:20,100 --> 00:59:23,400
the numbers and we're very
successful doing it with their

1072
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:26,000
tight ends.
Yeah, they definitely kind of

1073
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:27,600
filled in the Gap with what
downsells do.

1074
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:30,900
Ring with two guys Marisa.
Morales Morales.

1075
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:35,900
Probably the the better overall
Target in terms of being able to

1076
00:59:35,900 --> 00:59:39,400
do a little bit more within the
offense.

1077
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:43,300
They leaned on him heavily when
Josh Downs was out.

1078
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:46,200
Good hands, but not really
physically dominant.

1079
00:59:46,900 --> 00:59:49,500
And this is a guy that's more of
a kind of a joke or tight in,

1080
00:59:49,500 --> 00:59:51,500
not necessarily A blocking
asset.

1081
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:54,600
He will block in space pretty
well.

1082
00:59:54,900 --> 00:59:57,300
Good stock blocker but not
somebody that you're going to

1083
00:59:57,300 --> 01:00:00,300
line up.
Line a ton and just try to try

1084
01:00:00,300 --> 01:00:01,900
to move bodies in the running
game.

1085
01:00:01,900 --> 01:00:06,700
So definitely a very past
focused asset for that that

1086
01:00:06,700 --> 01:00:08,300
offense.
Yeah.

1087
01:00:08,300 --> 01:00:12,100
And and the game last week
against Notre Dame with Down's

1088
01:00:12,100 --> 01:00:14,800
being back, definitely didn't
see as much of them.

1089
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:19,000
So obviously they could be
changing up things this week

1090
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:22,100
because obviously like, you
know, Downs had a really good

1091
01:00:22,100 --> 01:00:25,000
game against Notre Dame.
So could they go back to Morales

1092
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,600
versus us?
And again, it's funny.

1093
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:30,900
You know, we got key onto this
week in a lot of talk is about

1094
01:00:30,900 --> 01:00:35,800
that position but if he can play
like he did against BC and hold

1095
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:37,800
down another good tight end,
that helps the Hokies.

1096
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:44,600
All right, buddy, now to the fun
part, this isn't a very good

1097
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:50,100
offensive line is it?
No, you know, I don't know if

1098
01:00:50,100 --> 01:00:54,300
they're as bad as we are right
now in terms of all the pieces,

1099
01:00:55,100 --> 01:00:56,800
but they're struggling pretty
bad.

1100
01:00:58,100 --> 01:01:01,400
If we're talking about three
worst, three or four were

1101
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:04,200
solvent sloppy, ACC has a lot of
bad offensive line play right

1102
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:07,000
now.
Between UVA between us between

1103
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:11,000
Boston College, and between a
blue between this, this UNC

1104
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:16,700
team, so probably for the worst
offensive lines in the, in the

1105
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:20,100
ACC right now.
So unc's right there with them,

1106
01:01:20,900 --> 01:01:22,700
they're not great at staying
engaged.

1107
01:01:22,700 --> 01:01:25,500
They turn their shoulder, their
shoulders, get easily turn in

1108
01:01:25,500 --> 01:01:28,900
the running game creating those
Those penetration Lanes to

1109
01:01:28,900 --> 01:01:32,900
really mess up that path.
That rushing attack, they

1110
01:01:32,900 --> 01:01:35,300
struggle a lot.
Just like we were with the

1111
01:01:35,308 --> 01:01:37,500
stunts in the blitz pickup and
past Pro.

1112
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:41,200
You're somewhat.
Some of their deficiencies are

1113
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:45,700
mitigated by scheme and by what
maze able to do with his talent

1114
01:01:45,700 --> 01:01:48,400
is decision-making, ability to
throw the ball and ability to

1115
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:50,700
make quick decisions and get the
ball out.

1116
01:01:51,300 --> 01:01:54,300
But they're not very good in the
Run game or the passing game.

1117
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:57,800
Very very mediocre.
Definitely something we could

1118
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:02,100
take advantage of So, why are
they then how?

1119
01:02:02,100 --> 01:02:05,400
How, why are they so successful?
Because obviously, if they're

1120
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:08,800
not that talented, what's, you
know, how can you really be

1121
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:11,700
covered that up by that much?
I'm asking?

1122
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:16,500
Yeah, yeah, I mean, so, you
know, we talked about this a lot

1123
01:02:16,500 --> 01:02:20,200
when we think about, you know, a
couple years back, how bad those

1124
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:24,700
Miami lines were but they were
still able to be effective in

1125
01:02:24,700 --> 01:02:27,600
the passing game and be
effective enough in the running

1126
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:29,300
game.
It's kind of the same situation.

1127
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:32,700
In here.
When it's right, they can they

1128
01:02:32,700 --> 01:02:36,000
can break some big plays in the
running game when a Mario

1129
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,500
Hampton who were about to talk
about here in a second, gets to

1130
01:02:38,500 --> 01:02:41,300
the second level.
He can make big plays had

1131
01:02:41,300 --> 01:02:46,700
touched had a run of 53 yards I
think against their their FCS

1132
01:02:46,700 --> 01:02:53,600
opponent and then a couple other
big runs as well so he can break

1133
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:58,100
some big ones and that plus what
may is able to do, when how

1134
01:02:58,100 --> 01:03:04,300
quickly They are able to get the
ball out, but also what this

1135
01:03:04,300 --> 01:03:08,700
offense does, well, is kind of
put that those Force players in

1136
01:03:08,700 --> 01:03:11,800
a bind, in terms of, whether
they're, it's a run or a pass,

1137
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:13,600
or whether it's a give or a
keep.

1138
01:03:14,100 --> 01:03:16,900
When you do that, that kind of
slows things down a little bit

1139
01:03:16,900 --> 01:03:18,200
and that helps your offensive
line.

1140
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:22,000
Got it, got it.
Any one particular player, maybe

1141
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:26,700
stand out for you.
No one really.

1142
01:03:26,700 --> 01:03:29,100
I mean, it's very, it's very
buidling across the board.

1143
01:03:30,700 --> 01:03:34,400
I mean, they're breaking in kind
of some new players on that

1144
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:36,000
line.
So it's still very much a work

1145
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:37,900
in progress.
All right.

1146
01:03:37,900 --> 01:03:40,100
Good to know.
Let's talk about the guy, they

1147
01:03:40,100 --> 01:03:43,300
have blocked for, who's had a
solid season thus far, and

1148
01:03:43,300 --> 01:03:46,900
that's a Mario, Hampton.
The running back six-foot-two.

1149
01:03:46,900 --> 01:03:49,700
20 out of Clayton, North
Carolina, Cleveland High School

1150
01:03:49,700 --> 01:03:53,300
for star in the 2022 class.
He is a true freshman playing.

1151
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:56,600
He was the 11th grader running.
In the country and a top-five

1152
01:03:56,600 --> 01:04:01,500
player in the state and you know
so far it's sort of been really

1153
01:04:01,500 --> 01:04:05,100
good game back to Earth really
good game back to Earth.

1154
01:04:05,500 --> 01:04:07,700
So this week it's saying this
should be another really good

1155
01:04:07,700 --> 01:04:09,700
game.
I hope that the pattern does not

1156
01:04:09,700 --> 01:04:14,300
continue because he was teased a
256 averaging over 50 carry for

1157
01:04:14,300 --> 01:04:16,300
the season.
But coming off the Notre Dame

1158
01:04:16,300 --> 01:04:21,000
game where he only got 28 yards
and 32 from scrimmage with one

1159
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:24,000
little catch.
But when you see in the good

1160
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:26,300
parts of him, What's it?
What's the Artie?

1161
01:04:26,300 --> 01:04:29,200
What's he showing?
I mean, the big thing you show

1162
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:31,300
and he's got great vision
between the tackles and he

1163
01:04:31,300 --> 01:04:35,200
finishes his runs very well.
So he's a guy that's always

1164
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:36,600
falling forward.
Always fighting for extra,

1165
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:41,500
yardage and maximizes, kind of
what this offensive line gives

1166
01:04:41,500 --> 01:04:44,000
him.
But he did disappear against

1167
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,600
appstate, did disappear against
Notre, Dame, a lot of that was

1168
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:51,400
based on game Flow there.
You know AB State you're getting

1169
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:55,000
in a shootout Notre Dame damn
playing from behind.

1170
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:58,600
For a significant portion of the
game and especially in the

1171
01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:01,800
second half of the new Dame
game, where they completely

1172
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:05,300
control time of possession.
So there wasn't a ton of

1173
01:05:05,300 --> 01:05:08,800
opportunities, even when they
were playing from behind to kind

1174
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:10,900
of get those those carries and
there's touches.

1175
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:15,400
But he does have big play
ability like I talked about, but

1176
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:19,000
really is struggled getting to
the sex the second level against

1177
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:20,900
that better.
I competition.

1178
01:05:20,900 --> 01:05:25,300
So if we can do kind of what
Notre Dame is done and Tap,

1179
01:05:25,300 --> 01:05:28,600
state did for for significant.
Portions of that game?

1180
01:05:28,900 --> 01:05:32,500
Yeah, I think will be our
writing and maintaining keeping

1181
01:05:32,500 --> 01:05:35,800
the Russian game under control
and making them a

1182
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:39,100
one-dimensional offense.
Yeah, definitely.

1183
01:05:39,100 --> 01:05:41,800
That has to be the key is to
make them a one-dimensional

1184
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:44,700
offense.
Regardless, because the pass

1185
01:05:44,700 --> 01:05:47,200
game is far as the pass game
goes, they don't really use the

1186
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:50,100
running backs a lot.
I mean, the running bags.

1187
01:05:50,100 --> 01:05:52,500
I mean, I'm just looking here
running backs.

1188
01:05:52,500 --> 01:05:58,000
Only have 15.
Seems all year, and it's just a

1189
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:03,200
little over a hundred yards, so
not a big key factor, there's no

1190
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:05,000
5A game combined.
Yeah.

1191
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:07,700
Yeah, not much.
I mean, it's 45 a game for like,

1192
01:06:07,700 --> 01:06:10,600
twenty five, twenty twenty-five,
Thirty yard average.

1193
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:13,500
So they're not using that as a
lot of check downs.

1194
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:16,700
But again, maybe with a Young
quarterback, getting to that

1195
01:06:16,700 --> 01:06:21,700
read is the real issue.
So you know I know we've seen

1196
01:06:21,700 --> 01:06:24,500
this team for a couple years now
Brian but let's just go high

1197
01:06:24,500 --> 01:06:27,000
level.
Well, what type of offense are

1198
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:29,800
we looking at?
And what are they doing?

1199
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:33,500
That we need to be looking for
on Saturday afternoon 3:30.

1200
01:06:35,100 --> 01:06:41,000
Yeah, this is a spread.
Our po based offense and again I

1201
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:43,500
said it a little bit but you
know the big key is all about

1202
01:06:43,500 --> 01:06:46,700
putting the the force players of
the defense in a bind where they

1203
01:06:46,700 --> 01:06:49,900
can't, you know, play the run or
the past, they've got to kind of

1204
01:06:49,908 --> 01:06:52,900
think and read and and kind of
sit back and wait.

1205
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:57,200
That's what they're trying to
do, they're trying to make

1206
01:06:57,200 --> 01:07:01,800
things difficult, put guys on
Islands, they're not a great

1207
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:06,200
traditional rushing team, but
maze numbers kind of make up for

1208
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:09,600
that combined with what the
running backs have been able to

1209
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:14,300
do in some big carries and those
weaker competition games but

1210
01:07:14,300 --> 01:07:16,900
they are still you know they're
still hovering just below that

1211
01:07:16,900 --> 01:07:21,400
200-yard a game Mark so they're
getting decent yardage overall,

1212
01:07:21,700 --> 01:07:24,900
but some of those running game
aspects are disappearing.

1213
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:27,100
For long stretches against
better competition.

1214
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:30,500
They're much more efficient
through the air than they are on

1215
01:07:30,500 --> 01:07:33,600
the ground but they can still
get bogged down when they

1216
01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:36,400
already want to routinely hit
their shots, downfield, or take

1217
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:40,700
advantage of good runs and good.
Good plays on early downs.

1218
01:07:42,300 --> 01:07:45,800
And, you know, they definitely
are a dynamic offense, but they

1219
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:48,400
become very pedestrian when you
get them into those third and

1220
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:52,100
long situations, that's good to
know.

1221
01:07:52,100 --> 01:07:54,900
We're going to visit something
about those third.

1222
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:57,800
Situations.
But you're absolutely right as

1223
01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:00,800
far as the Russian goes Bryan
against Notre Dame.

1224
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:05,400
Last week, I mean, you know,
basically 60 yards on about 25

1225
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:09,100
carry.
So very pedestrian and there's

1226
01:08:09,100 --> 01:08:13,900
one of your big keys, right?
You know, stop them make you've

1227
01:08:13,900 --> 01:08:15,600
said it make them
one-dimensional offense.

1228
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:18,500
We make them beat you passing,
especially in a Range so game,

1229
01:08:18,899 --> 01:08:21,700
it could be good things for the
Hokies.

1230
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:25,300
Now let's go talk about the
defense because the defense not

1231
01:08:25,300 --> 01:08:27,300
the best.
But let's talk about a couple

1232
01:08:27,300 --> 01:08:30,800
key players, are that?
We're seeing making some impact

1233
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:35,399
and let's start with Cedric
gray, the linebacker

1234
01:08:35,399 --> 01:08:38,500
six-foot-two 230 out of
Charlotte, North Carolina,

1235
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:42,100
Audrey kill, High School, class
of 2020.

1236
01:08:42,300 --> 01:08:48,000
Again I keep saying it for Star.
Top 10 player, North Carolina's

1237
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:51,700
top teen athlete in the country.
How this team is only winning.

1238
01:08:51,700 --> 01:08:53,899
Six games a year.
Only tells you that their

1239
01:08:53,899 --> 01:08:56,600
coaching staff is Ass.
That's all I'm gonna say.

1240
01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:59,300
Is many talented players if
we've been saying here and

1241
01:08:59,300 --> 01:09:01,399
there's even more that we're not
mentioning.

1242
01:09:01,899 --> 01:09:04,800
So the worst thing is that at
least the offense is getting

1243
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:09,600
production, like but the defense
has four and five stars all

1244
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:17,100
every weld and are but ass.
But speaking of Cedric, great

1245
01:09:17,100 --> 01:09:19,100
said, your gray is the
Undisputed leader on this

1246
01:09:19,100 --> 01:09:22,100
defense, okay?
He's weak side linebacker, he's

1247
01:09:22,100 --> 01:09:24,899
the best player.
Best box player and run.

1248
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:29,200
First offender that they have,
he is also their primary Blitzer

1249
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:32,100
when they send pressure.
They'll use another guy that

1250
01:09:32,100 --> 01:09:34,100
we're about to talk about as
well, but he's the guy that they

1251
01:09:34,108 --> 01:09:37,100
like to send the most on those
pressures and he's generally

1252
01:09:37,100 --> 01:09:40,000
matched up with the running back
in man coverage.

1253
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:45,500
When they go into into the drop
back, probably better in man

1254
01:09:45,500 --> 01:09:51,300
than he is in zone, but he
doesn't really have a bunch of

1255
01:09:51,500 --> 01:09:54,300
liabilities, but he's more of a
kind of a leader.

1256
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:59,400
Okay.
He's not Elite in any key areas

1257
01:10:00,500 --> 01:10:02,800
but he doesn't really have any
deficiencies either his

1258
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:06,600
leadership and kind of what he
brings to that front is probably

1259
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:09,700
his biggest attribute.
Let me ask this because you say

1260
01:10:09,700 --> 01:10:12,500
he is the guy carrying running
backs out of the backfield.

1261
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:15,300
Does he have the kind of
athleticism that can keep up

1262
01:10:15,300 --> 01:10:17,100
with guys?
Like he's Sean King, if we

1263
01:10:17,100 --> 01:10:21,100
decide to go out and run some
Flats, maybe run some Wheels,

1264
01:10:21,100 --> 01:10:24,200
run some angle routes, where
Keshawn is it close to you

1265
01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:27,800
Keshawn, is that Poletik.
I mean he did a decent job of

1266
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:33,300
matching Chris Tyree for a lot
of the Notre Dame game you know

1267
01:10:33,300 --> 01:10:37,100
he did get a few gains but he
wasn't necessarily getting beat

1268
01:10:37,100 --> 01:10:41,600
where Tyrese running up.
The up the sideline, the only

1269
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:45,400
time that a running back called,
a big ball in that game is when

1270
01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:51,500
they put two out there and and
threw away from Cedric Grace.

1271
01:10:51,500 --> 01:10:54,900
Oh, okay, that's that's the only
big play there.

1272
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:57,200
Add with a running back in the
passing game was when they went

1273
01:10:57,200 --> 01:10:59,800
away from that.
So got you got you?

1274
01:11:00,100 --> 01:11:03,000
Well in Graham selfie like you
said, he's the leader and he's

1275
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:06,000
leading this team in tackles 47.
Total tackles three and a half

1276
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:08,600
four loss.
He has a pick, he's Pat, he

1277
01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:10,100
know, he played a little last
year.

1278
01:11:10,100 --> 01:11:13,600
He's deflected passes.
So like you said, it sounds like

1279
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:16,000
he has a willy well-rounded
game.

1280
01:11:16,300 --> 01:11:18,900
Now, let's talk about the other
linebacker.

1281
01:11:18,900 --> 01:11:21,900
That caught your eye on the tape
because I was looking at

1282
01:11:21,900 --> 01:11:25,600
somebody else you texted me and
said, let's flip Ooh, this guy

1283
01:11:26,100 --> 01:11:30,600
power Echols all named Team,
first of all, power equals Big

1284
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:34,200
Time, 6-foot 225.
Also from Charlotte, North

1285
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:39,000
Carolina from chambers High
School, 2021 class for Star, top

1286
01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:43,000
200 player, top 20 linebacker,
number 13 in the state of North

1287
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:45,500
Carolina in power so far this
year.

1288
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:50,600
Also, well, up there getting 37
total, tackles three tackles for

1289
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:54,700
loss, couple sacks, what's power
showing on tape.

1290
01:11:56,300 --> 01:11:58,600
He's good at making plays
against the run when he plays

1291
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:02,400
with anticipation trusses reads
and in kind of gets up in there

1292
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:06,000
but he's below averaging
coverage, especially in man.

1293
01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:10,700
So this is something where we
might be able to create some

1294
01:12:10,700 --> 01:12:13,900
mismatches with guys in our
game.

1295
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:18,600
He does a good job when
blitzing, he's probably the guy

1296
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:22,400
that they send them Blitz is the
second most in this defense

1297
01:12:23,500 --> 01:12:26,100
meddling when it comes to block.
A shedding and tackling.

1298
01:12:26,100 --> 01:12:30,600
He'll miss some tackles here and
there and can get confused and

1299
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:33,800
influence by motion and window
dressing when he has coverage

1300
01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:37,900
duties that big pass to the
running back that I'm talking

1301
01:12:37,900 --> 01:12:39,500
about.
There was some window-dressing

1302
01:12:39,500 --> 01:12:43,000
some motion, he got caught up in
the wash and next thing you know

1303
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:46,400
you let a guy get behind him.
Big touchdown that kind of

1304
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:50,700
extended that lead and kind of
put it Out Of Reach for you and

1305
01:12:50,700 --> 01:12:53,400
see where they were playing
big-time catch up there in the

1306
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:57,900
fourth quarter.
So, It has some ability.

1307
01:12:57,900 --> 01:13:00,500
That makes a lot of mistakes.
That's kind of the big takeaway

1308
01:13:00,500 --> 01:13:03,300
for him.
Got it, got it.

1309
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:05,300
All right, let's flip.
And let's take a look at a

1310
01:13:05,300 --> 01:13:08,400
member of the secondary that if
you have followed Okie football,

1311
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:11,500
will last few years, you were
all too familiar with and that's

1312
01:13:11,500 --> 01:13:16,300
camera on Kelly.
The free safety, 61 210 out of

1313
01:13:16,300 --> 01:13:19,200
Oscar Smith, High School.
If you don't remember, he was

1314
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:23,400
originally committed to the
Hokies long long time ago in

1315
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:28,300
2018.
And then he flipped to Auburn

1316
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:32,600
who signed with and the class of
2019 where he was a four-star,

1317
01:13:32,700 --> 01:13:37,300
top-10 player in Virginia, top
24/7 player, but he did make it

1318
01:13:37,300 --> 01:13:41,500
through Auburn spring.
He then flip to you and see

1319
01:13:41,500 --> 01:13:46,400
after signing with them and he
is now they're at Carolina where

1320
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:53,400
he actually played as a freshman
in 2019, you know, this year

1321
01:13:53,500 --> 01:13:57,900
starting at the strong safety.
Position 20 tackles no pics.

1322
01:13:57,900 --> 01:13:59,600
No sex.
No tackles for loss.

1323
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:07,000
Is he doing adequate or or, or
could they potentially bench

1324
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:11,100
him?
So he's also their punt

1325
01:14:11,100 --> 01:14:13,300
returner.
So, okay.

1326
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:16,000
We'll put that caveat in there.
He is.

1327
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:21,700
Not a very good tackler at all.
He is food in the open field.

1328
01:14:23,500 --> 01:14:26,200
That's something that we could.
He is food.

1329
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:30,800
We can absolutely take advantage
of his ability in the secondary

1330
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:34,400
if we can get the ball out and
have to force him to make a play

1331
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:37,300
in space.
He's a little bit better when he

1332
01:14:37,300 --> 01:14:41,400
kind of come up and get a Fin
early in the snap if he's late

1333
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:44,300
and he's kind of on the island
he's cooked.

1334
01:14:44,900 --> 01:14:48,900
Okay.
And he's improved his coverage,

1335
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:52,500
particularly man coverage so he
looks a lot better in coverage

1336
01:14:52,500 --> 01:14:54,600
than he's looked.
I think the last probably two

1337
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:58,600
years that We looked at tape on
him, but I'd say he's more

1338
01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:01,100
dangerous on special teams and
he is on defense.

1339
01:15:02,700 --> 01:15:04,800
All right.
Yeah, the Special Teams.

1340
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:08,300
I mean, and it's solid numbers
me.

1341
01:15:08,300 --> 01:15:12,000
He's got 500 turns for, you
know, 64 yards.

1342
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:14,900
So almost average in 13 which is
that can be a field.

1343
01:15:14,900 --> 01:15:17,900
Flipper, catch that at the 25,
get it up to the 40.

1344
01:15:18,700 --> 01:15:21,700
That's that guy changes games,
things like that.

1345
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:26,400
It's just the camera on Kelly.
Things always funny because of

1346
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:28,700
the announcement was big when it
happened because he played it

1347
01:15:28,700 --> 01:15:32,200
Oscar Smith to feel like a big
win and then a month later, he

1348
01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:36,800
Flipped and and he's been doing
his own thing since.

1349
01:15:36,900 --> 01:15:40,400
All right, one more player on
the defense before we take a

1350
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:44,300
look at more defensive scheme.
And let's talk about big guy

1351
01:15:44,300 --> 01:15:48,400
Desmond Evans, six foot six to
sixty five defensive end

1352
01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:53,700
Sanford, North Carolina, Lee
County High School, 20:24 star

1353
01:15:53,700 --> 01:15:56,600
type hundred player.
The number two player in North

1354
01:15:56,600 --> 01:16:01,500
Carolina that year and a top ten
weeks I'd defensive end

1355
01:16:01,500 --> 01:16:04,800
position.
And as men's issue Desmond this

1356
01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:10,200
year, 15 total tackles no loss
or sacks, which kind of

1357
01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:13,000
interesting knowing that he's
putting his hand in the dirt a

1358
01:16:13,008 --> 01:16:16,000
little bit more brine, but
what's he doing?

1359
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:21,100
Good that he caught, he, you
know, he caught my eye but then

1360
01:16:21,100 --> 01:16:23,300
he called you're out of stay on
here for review.

1361
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:27,100
Yeah, I mean, he's a long
defensive end with really good

1362
01:16:27,100 --> 01:16:31,700
size, I mean, that's, that's
evident they were 66 to 65, you

1363
01:16:31,708 --> 01:16:37,400
know, that's It's prototypical
NFL size right there.

1364
01:16:38,700 --> 01:16:41,100
Plays a good leverage sets, a
good Edge.

1365
01:16:42,500 --> 01:16:45,800
He's probably the best rusher
they have despite not having any

1366
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:47,500
any shown up on the stat sheet
yet.

1367
01:16:49,500 --> 01:16:51,600
But he struggles at times to
shed blocks.

1368
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:53,800
I mean, that's that's the big
thing is that if you can get

1369
01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:56,900
engaged with him.
Well, he doesn't do a good job

1370
01:16:56,900 --> 01:17:00,400
of pursuit.
He doesn't do a great job of

1371
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:03,500
kind of getting away from.
From his blocker and making a

1372
01:17:03,508 --> 01:17:05,800
play after he gets fully
engaged.

1373
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:09,000
But if you get some move early
he does a pretty good job there.

1374
01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:14,800
And you know, a lot of times
he's like a split second from

1375
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:16,400
getting home on a lot of these
rushes.

1376
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:21,400
So we still got to make sure
that we contain him that we're

1377
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:23,200
identifying him when he's on the
field.

1378
01:17:24,300 --> 01:17:26,700
Yep.
And you you kind of said it, you

1379
01:17:26,708 --> 01:17:29,200
know, he has no sax but he's
their best pass rusher.

1380
01:17:29,300 --> 01:17:31,300
They only have seven sacks for
the year.

1381
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:34,700
So, So those are I'm sure I
think our linebackers making

1382
01:17:34,700 --> 01:17:37,900
making some sacks there.
So it's really interesting to

1383
01:17:37,900 --> 01:17:41,500
see that and I mean once again
is it a potential in Avail

1384
01:17:41,500 --> 01:17:45,000
Talent wasted on the defensive
side at Carolina under Gene

1385
01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:48,700
chizik defense potentially.
So let's actually talk about

1386
01:17:48,700 --> 01:17:51,800
that defense Prime because last
year and the last few years,

1387
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:54,600
when we talked about this team,
they were running to 45.

1388
01:17:54,900 --> 01:17:57,600
They hired Gene chizik to this
point.

1389
01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:00,800
It doesn't look like he's fixing
things, but what does it look

1390
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:04,500
like when they play?
Yeah, it's a lot less attacking

1391
01:18:04,500 --> 01:18:10,800
a lot more fundamentals and kind
of playing playing positions.

1392
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:16,200
And right now, it's a multiple
front, it's a 425 base.

1393
01:18:16,700 --> 01:18:21,700
They use a hybrid, The Players
called a star which is kind of

1394
01:18:21,708 --> 01:18:25,000
like a whipped I position.
And then a hybrid another hybrid

1395
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:28,600
player called a jack which is
like a defensive end linebacker

1396
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:32,200
that's where you see, Noah
Taylor former UVA.

1397
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:39,100
Linebacker lining up for them.
They don't have much success

1398
01:18:39,100 --> 01:18:41,900
unless they kind of get you
behind the sticks early, and

1399
01:18:41,900 --> 01:18:47,700
then can bring some of those
blitzes and put some pressure.

1400
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:51,800
They Don't Really pressure on
early Downs.

1401
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:56,800
It's very specific on Third and
behind the sticks or or

1402
01:18:56,800 --> 01:19:01,100
situational.
They get gashed a lot in the Run

1403
01:19:01,100 --> 01:19:05,300
game.
They don't do a good job holding

1404
01:19:05,300 --> 01:19:08,300
up in their in their gaps.
So there is some opportunity

1405
01:19:08,300 --> 01:19:09,800
there.
Maybe we see some progress with

1406
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:11,600
our offensive line this week
against this.

1407
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:15,500
This front.
They are not the the huge front

1408
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:20,800
with Dynamic athletes that we
saw with West Virginia last

1409
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:25,700
week, There's No Jordan
Jefferson or Dante Stills on

1410
01:19:25,700 --> 01:19:30,300
this team.
So you know, there is some

1411
01:19:30,300 --> 01:19:33,300
opportunity, there they're very
Very inconsistent in their

1412
01:19:33,300 --> 01:19:35,500
secondary, especially with
communication.

1413
01:19:35,900 --> 01:19:38,000
There's coverage breakdowns all
over the place.

1414
01:19:38,700 --> 01:19:41,000
They get fooled a lot with
play-action, misdirection,

1415
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:44,300
things like that.
And you notice that I didn't

1416
01:19:44,300 --> 01:19:48,300
mention storm, duck or Tony
Grimes.

1417
01:19:48,500 --> 01:19:51,600
You didn't enjoy this preview
because they have almost

1418
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:56,900
disappeared in terms of their
impact on this defense and that

1419
01:19:56,900 --> 01:20:00,100
kind of started last year and
it's carried over to this year

1420
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:03,500
and I'd say it's even worse.
I mean, You know, there were

1421
01:20:03,500 --> 01:20:06,700
guys on the sidelines against
Notre Dame, you know, fighting

1422
01:20:06,700 --> 01:20:10,300
white boards and fighting you
had Tony Grimes, get pulled

1423
01:20:10,300 --> 01:20:15,100
after a stupid penalty on a
late, hit out of bounds.

1424
01:20:16,100 --> 01:20:20,000
There are just so many things
that they're doing to hurt

1425
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:22,900
themselves right now.
And we know that we've, we've

1426
01:20:22,900 --> 01:20:24,900
experienced that on our side as
well.

1427
01:20:25,500 --> 01:20:29,300
The difference is that we're
producing when we're not hurting

1428
01:20:29,300 --> 01:20:32,800
ourselves, they are not and
that's why we're We're looking

1429
01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:37,500
at another situation of a
stoppable force meeting a

1430
01:20:37,500 --> 01:20:41,900
movable object as we head down
to Chapel Hill for Saturday.

1431
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:45,800
Yeah, the old stoppable for
first against the movable

1432
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:49,700
objects in a hurricane what?
It's bound to go wrong there,

1433
01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:56,000
good breakdowns on the defense
and on the offense Prime and

1434
01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:59,800
after seeing your notes and then
looking through things, I feel

1435
01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:03,300
like we got some keys out here
that it's to me, it's got to

1436
01:21:03,300 --> 01:21:05,100
happen.
And I mean the first key, I look

1437
01:21:05,100 --> 01:21:06,900
at this week is the Hokies
running game.

1438
01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:09,700
You've already mentioned, how
this is not a good defense in

1439
01:21:09,700 --> 01:21:12,700
the proofs in the pudding.
I mean North Carolina's giving

1440
01:21:12,700 --> 01:21:16,100
up, over 216 yards, running per
game.

1441
01:21:16,100 --> 01:21:18,100
They're almost given up five
yards.

1442
01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:22,000
Rush, there are 120 third in the
nation.

1443
01:21:23,100 --> 01:21:28,300
And the honest truth is, if we
can't get the Run game, going

1444
01:21:28,500 --> 01:21:32,200
this game, then it's probably
not going to happen this year.

1445
01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:35,000
Maybe against UVA late in the
season.

1446
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:36,600
Their defense is looking great
either.

1447
01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:39,000
But like this is your chance,
right?

1448
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:43,400
This is the chance to the plays
that we feel like we need.

1449
01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:45,800
We need to find the bread and
butter on the outside of the

1450
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:48,500
finding poles.
Some of those things, maybe even

1451
01:21:48,500 --> 01:21:51,200
some jet sweeps.
I know well no one wants to hear

1452
01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:52,300
it.
Ha ha, ha.

1453
01:21:53,100 --> 01:21:58,200
Curtis said a dirty word with
tell me that running the Jet

1454
01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:01,200
Sweep.
It like Keshawn King potentially

1455
01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:04,300
couldn't break some big play.
Plays this week especially how

1456
01:22:04,300 --> 01:22:08,300
they run.
Yeah I mean if you want to do it

1457
01:22:08,300 --> 01:22:10,800
you can do it to Connor Blum
like bummer because well so

1458
01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:14,800
that's why I got to put it.
I think we need to get a little

1459
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:17,800
more creative with how we get
the ball in space, whether it's

1460
01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:22,300
more of those quick screens, two
tight ends, or we can kind of

1461
01:22:22,300 --> 01:22:26,100
get to the edge quickly and then
get up field and almost use that

1462
01:22:26,100 --> 01:22:32,000
as a quasi running play or, you
know, something more creative in

1463
01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:34,500
the Game.
Again, I'd like to see more pain

1464
01:22:34,500 --> 01:22:38,100
and pulls in more more, more
plays that attack that

1465
01:22:38,100 --> 01:22:41,100
perimeter.
And I think we will see more

1466
01:22:42,100 --> 01:22:47,300
this week.
Just because being honest, you

1467
01:22:47,300 --> 01:22:51,600
know, even with the players for
man fronts, regardless of what

1468
01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:53,900
the guys look like for, man,
fronts are a little bit easier

1469
01:22:53,900 --> 01:22:58,300
to design runs runs against them
in three main fronts.

1470
01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:03,100
So You know, I think we'll see a
little bit more consistency this

1471
01:23:03,100 --> 01:23:10,400
week, just because of that.
Yeah, now now just so bronze.

1472
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:13,000
Mentioned the passing of
Defense, that's not much better.

1473
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:15,700
We've already talked about it in
the keys with the bad.

1474
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:18,800
They're giving up almost 280
yards through the air there

1475
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:22,600
113th and that the defense isn't
good whatsoever.

1476
01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:26,800
It's like if, if there ever was
an offense that needed to play a

1477
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:30,000
defense to fix things, we're
walking up to that off.

1478
01:23:30,100 --> 01:23:33,800
Into this week.
Like fix the shit fix the ship.

1479
01:23:34,100 --> 01:23:37,300
Shout-out, Glen Pereira watching
us out there on YouTube tonight.

1480
01:23:37,300 --> 01:23:42,100
Alright, let's look on the UNC
offensive side because when I

1481
01:23:42,100 --> 01:23:46,300
dug into this stat it's sort of
I'm not going to say, shocked

1482
01:23:46,300 --> 01:23:52,400
me, but so far this year, UNC
hundred first downs, 51 via

1483
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:57,000
passing the can, when I think of
that in a potential wet sloppy

1484
01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:59,500
game, the winds not going to be
howling as bad.

1485
01:23:59,500 --> 01:24:04,300
They're saying, 10 to 15 up to
25 and you've said it already a

1486
01:24:04,308 --> 01:24:06,800
couple times tonight.
Brian with how they're they're

1487
01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:11,600
leaning on the past.
And when I see a team over 50%

1488
01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:15,000
that's how they get their first
downs you take away their run

1489
01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:16,900
game.
I mean you can key in

1490
01:24:16,900 --> 01:24:21,400
potentially maybe jump one.
Yeah if we can take away their

1491
01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:25,400
run game and they get a little
hesitant throwing a deep ball

1492
01:24:26,100 --> 01:24:29,300
and we're forcing them to have
to Dink and dunk the whole game.

1493
01:24:29,300 --> 01:24:32,200
I think that played Into our
favor because that's when we've

1494
01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:35,200
seen maybe make some of his
mistakes.

1495
01:24:35,900 --> 01:24:38,700
That's when we seen his
technique, get a little, a

1496
01:24:38,700 --> 01:24:42,100
little lacks there.
So if we can do that, that that

1497
01:24:42,100 --> 01:24:43,600
bodes.
Well again, you know, they've

1498
01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:47,900
had 51 through the air with, I
think 30, 30, some running and

1499
01:24:47,900 --> 01:24:50,600
then they've had like 10 or 12
through three penalties.

1500
01:24:51,300 --> 01:24:57,400
Yeah 151 through the air 10 on
penalties 39 rushing.

1501
01:24:57,800 --> 01:25:01,100
Yep.
So I mean Almost and a lot of

1502
01:25:01,100 --> 01:25:03,800
those rushing have been made
taking off and getting the

1503
01:25:03,808 --> 01:25:05,000
first.
So it's, you know, it's not a

1504
01:25:05,008 --> 01:25:10,300
lot of design runs for May, but
it's a lot of glove scrambles

1505
01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:14,200
where he's making those plays.
So the running game is you know,

1506
01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:18,500
very hit-or-miss.
If we can contain that if we can

1507
01:25:18,500 --> 01:25:23,000
control that make them
one-dimensional, make it where

1508
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:27,600
they're not able to, you know,
press our Force players into

1509
01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:29,000
having to make a decision if we
know.

1510
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:32,900
Okay, well, The keys are here.
This is a pass play.

1511
01:25:32,900 --> 01:25:36,400
This is a run play that lets
them play with a little more

1512
01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:40,100
technique.
A little bit more freedom there,

1513
01:25:40,700 --> 01:25:44,300
so that's going to be key.
And, you know, we talked about

1514
01:25:44,300 --> 01:25:46,400
it last week.
It's another one this week.

1515
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:49,400
Hokies Red Zone.
D versus UNC red zone offense.

1516
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:53,700
Absolutely.
I mean you saw on the tape and

1517
01:25:53,700 --> 01:25:57,400
you mentioned it, they get
inside the 20, they are super

1518
01:25:57,400 --> 01:26:01,200
aggressive going for it.
This team hasn't kicked a field

1519
01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:03,100
goal inside the Red Zone, all
year.

1520
01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:08,000
Yep so take them to think about
that, they've been 14 trips 13,

1521
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:10,200
touchdowns one, they didn't get
anything.

1522
01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:13,400
So and then I remember, I saw it
and I was like, Brian.

1523
01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:15,900
What's the tape showing your
like, they get down there, there

1524
01:26:15,900 --> 01:26:17,900
they say, screw it.
Yep.

1525
01:26:17,900 --> 01:26:21,500
I think they went three or four
times on Fourth down in the red

1526
01:26:21,500 --> 01:26:24,200
zone and you know, I've only
missed on one of them.

1527
01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:30,200
So you know, they're they're
going to be aggressive.

1528
01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:32,900
They will?
They want seven, they don't want

1529
01:26:32,900 --> 01:26:35,600
to settle for three, well, when
they're, when they're, what

1530
01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:38,300
they're doing, their defense is
playing, they have to play for.

1531
01:26:38,300 --> 01:26:39,600
So yeah.
Yeah.

1532
01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:42,700
Now they've been, they've been
in a lot of games where they

1533
01:26:42,700 --> 01:26:45,100
felt like, they needed as many
points as possible.

1534
01:26:45,700 --> 01:26:48,300
And they have needed as many
points as possible, and just

1535
01:26:48,300 --> 01:26:51,600
about every game.
I mean, you know, No disrespect

1536
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:55,100
to Florida A&M before.
Am put 26 on this team.

1537
01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:59,200
Therefore an A&M is, I mean,
their best an average team in

1538
01:26:59,200 --> 01:27:02,400
the division that play in.
And, you know, Broadway, we

1539
01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:04,900
talked about you and see and you
guys look at the Hokies that's

1540
01:27:04,900 --> 01:27:07,400
inside the RedZone, believe it
or not, it's been a strength,

1541
01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:11,300
you know, only 12 possessions
inside the Red Zone this year,

1542
01:27:11,500 --> 01:27:15,500
half of a resulted in field
goals Forum touchdowns to I'm

1543
01:27:15,500 --> 01:27:18,500
stopped.
So basically you're looking at

1544
01:27:18,500 --> 01:27:23,000
three quarters of the
possessions Getting down into

1545
01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:27,300
the red zone are basically
ending with three or less for

1546
01:27:27,300 --> 01:27:29,400
the team that's playing on the
Hokey.

1547
01:27:29,400 --> 01:27:33,800
So I mean, that's a something's
got to give their right either.

1548
01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:36,000
They've got to get it to,
something's got to give here and

1549
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:38,000
we're going to get them off the
field or they're going to.

1550
01:27:38,500 --> 01:27:40,900
They're going to start putting
touchdowns in there for us.

1551
01:27:40,900 --> 01:27:44,500
So yeah.
Hopefully, with the way that

1552
01:27:44,500 --> 01:27:48,500
we're playing, if we can avoid
those penalties, that give them

1553
01:27:48,500 --> 01:27:52,400
some extra chances there.
I like what we can do there.

1554
01:27:52,800 --> 01:27:56,400
All right.
Last one we looked at in Bryan

1555
01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:58,500
already mentioned, the offensive
line is kind of garbage.

1556
01:27:58,500 --> 01:28:03,100
Unc's allow 12 sacks this year.
They've allowed three in each

1557
01:28:03,100 --> 01:28:08,000
game by each team so that no
disrespect App State or do

1558
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:11,500
Georgia Southern team.
They gave up three to them.

1559
01:28:11,500 --> 01:28:14,000
They gave up three to Florida in
them and they gave up three to

1560
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:17,900
Notre Dame.
Which begs the question Bryant,

1561
01:28:17,900 --> 01:28:21,000
should it be to the number?
Be like 20?

1562
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:25,500
I have Drake met was a statue.
Would that be doubled if he's a

1563
01:28:25,500 --> 01:28:27,900
statue?
Would be more if he wasn't

1564
01:28:27,900 --> 01:28:30,600
making the decisions as quickly
as he is there.

1565
01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:34,700
Be more like there's this could
be significantly worse than it

1566
01:28:34,700 --> 01:28:41,900
is but the way they play and the
the scheme they have helps them

1567
01:28:41,900 --> 01:28:44,800
avoid some sacks by default.
So the fact that they still have

1568
01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:49,500
12 is, I think indicative of how
that offensive plays going right

1569
01:28:49,500 --> 01:28:52,700
now and it's not good.
It's again one of the worst in

1570
01:28:52,700 --> 01:28:55,500
the country at giving up those
type plays.

1571
01:28:55,800 --> 01:28:57,700
Alright.
So there you key for the Hokies

1572
01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:02,800
to hopefully get the wind.
But now it's prediction time.

1573
01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:05,700
Ryan and we were back here.
Again, we have to make

1574
01:29:05,700 --> 01:29:10,600
predictions every week.
So I lived last week, I missed.

1575
01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:16,000
What do you say?
This week, well, I think this is

1576
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:21,300
going to be a sloppy messy game.
I think we do a good job of

1577
01:29:21,900 --> 01:29:25,700
turning them into a
one-dimensional team, but I

1578
01:29:25,700 --> 01:29:28,200
think they do get some points on
is I think they do, score some

1579
01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:31,500
touchdowns on us.
I think we actually forced them

1580
01:29:31,500 --> 01:29:36,900
to kick one field goal though,
I've got them getting to 24 and

1581
01:29:36,900 --> 01:29:39,200
I think we make some
improvements on the offensive

1582
01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:43,900
side this week.
I think we do some good things

1583
01:29:43,900 --> 01:29:46,600
considering the conditions on
that side of the ball this week,

1584
01:29:46,600 --> 01:29:49,500
but I don't think it's enough.
I think we end up with 17.

1585
01:29:49,500 --> 01:29:53,100
So I've got UNC 24, Virginia
Tech 17.

1586
01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:58,900
All right, I'm not to are far
off from you Brian you know all

1587
01:29:58,900 --> 01:30:02,600
the stuff we're seeing
offensively and defensively, we

1588
01:30:02,600 --> 01:30:06,900
saw the defense essentially hold
a teen that was averaging five

1589
01:30:06,900 --> 01:30:10,700
hundred and twenty yards just
under 100 or just above.

1590
01:30:11,100 --> 01:30:14,400
Arch from their normal, only
give up 26 points.

1591
01:30:14,800 --> 01:30:18,300
And the funny part is they gave
up 10 in the last 15 minutes

1592
01:30:18,900 --> 01:30:22,300
against West Virginia.
So I think the game is going to

1593
01:30:22,300 --> 01:30:25,100
be competitive but I've got to
lean you in see on this.

1594
01:30:25,100 --> 01:30:28,600
I think they do punch it in a
couple extra times in the red

1595
01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:34,000
zone and our offense just can't
keep up 28:20 Carolina in this

1596
01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:38,000
case.
But they're caveat right?

1597
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:43,400
This week because of how bad.
The conditions and how bad the

1598
01:30:43,400 --> 01:30:45,800
UNC offense is.
Yeah.

1599
01:30:45,800 --> 01:30:48,300
And you know, taking into
account, you know, we might

1600
01:30:48,300 --> 01:30:54,400
clean up some of the penalties
and an excuse that we had last

1601
01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:56,300
week as well.
So if you take that into

1602
01:30:56,300 --> 01:31:00,000
account, if we can rush for 150
yards against this team, you

1603
01:31:00,000 --> 01:31:04,800
two, if you put that on the stat
sheet, if you go out there and

1604
01:31:05,700 --> 01:31:10,600
are able to establish any type
of consistent running game and

1605
01:31:10,800 --> 01:31:16,000
being Efficient if not explosive
in the passing game, I think we

1606
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:17,900
just need to be efficient in the
passing game.

1607
01:31:18,500 --> 01:31:23,000
If we can do those things
against a defense, that's going

1608
01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:27,300
to give you those opportunities.
And we, if we can take advantage

1609
01:31:27,300 --> 01:31:31,300
of them, then we've got a chance
here because I think our defense

1610
01:31:31,300 --> 01:31:33,300
is good enough to keep them in
check.

1611
01:31:33,800 --> 01:31:36,400
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't think they're

1612
01:31:36,400 --> 01:31:39,200
going to go out there and
explode for the same type of

1613
01:31:39,200 --> 01:31:41,600
points.
They've done not only this year

1614
01:31:41,600 --> 01:31:45,900
but overall I think if we can
hold them in that, you know, mid

1615
01:31:45,900 --> 01:31:49,500
to Upper 20s range, then we have
we have a shot here.

1616
01:31:51,700 --> 01:31:55,400
Absolutely, and again with it
being a wet yucky game, the

1617
01:31:55,400 --> 01:32:00,000
balls definitely going to bounce
funny and again I think we just

1618
01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:03,300
look for improvement, right?
We look for those things Jenkins

1619
01:32:03,300 --> 01:32:05,800
has been Jenkins talked about
with the The beginning of the

1620
01:32:05,800 --> 01:32:08,000
episode about cleaning up the
penalties about discipline

1621
01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:12,300
playing together.
It's things like that that are

1622
01:32:12,300 --> 01:32:15,900
going to get further.
We're losing games, we're not

1623
01:32:15,900 --> 01:32:18,500
fighting on the sidelines,
right?

1624
01:32:18,900 --> 01:32:21,000
Yep.
There's they're hanging in it

1625
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:23,900
together.
So, you know, going to be

1626
01:32:23,900 --> 01:32:26,600
interesting to see how it goes.
Alright, Brawn.

1627
01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:30,100
So let's talk about our big
screen or for the week here,

1628
01:32:30,400 --> 01:32:33,600
I'll lead with this one, it's
going to be 7:30, it's going to

1629
01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:37,600
be in Death Valley.
Top 10 matchup of ACC teams.

1630
01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:41,600
Clemson versus NC State likely
to be on the back end of a

1631
01:32:41,600 --> 01:32:44,600
hurricane when that game kicks.
I think that's what they're

1632
01:32:44,600 --> 01:32:47,200
saying, right?
It's going to be slowly.

1633
01:32:47,200 --> 01:32:52,100
Moving away from Clemson as the
game comes in NC State's a six

1634
01:32:52,100 --> 01:32:56,900
and a half Point dog.
In with this one I think NC

1635
01:32:56,900 --> 01:32:58,300
State's going to cover that six
and a half.

1636
01:32:58,300 --> 01:32:59,800
I think it's good.
This is going to be a war.

1637
01:32:59,800 --> 01:33:01,000
Like it was it?
Wait.

1638
01:33:01,700 --> 01:33:04,300
I got to watch the last quarter
and a half.

1639
01:33:04,300 --> 01:33:07,900
That was such Entertaining
football game in every sense of

1640
01:33:07,900 --> 01:33:12,000
the word way you can Clemson but
I think Clemson's going to get

1641
01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:15,300
them in the something fluky, I
think it's going to be like a

1642
01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:21,400
31-28 game and Clemson wins and
the closing minutes with you

1643
01:33:21,400 --> 01:33:24,100
know what what?
Whatever they've had stuck up

1644
01:33:24,100 --> 01:33:31,300
there for the last decade.
Yeah, my big one is going to be

1645
01:33:31,400 --> 01:33:34,100
the big new term an Kentucky Ole
Miss.

1646
01:33:35,200 --> 01:33:37,900
Brides already planning knowing
that he's not going to be able

1647
01:33:37,900 --> 01:33:40,500
to do anything outside, any yard
work.

1648
01:33:40,700 --> 01:33:42,900
Let's go ahead and circle the
12:00.

1649
01:33:42,900 --> 01:33:46,000
Maybe maybe maybe cook a nice
little heavy lunch.

1650
01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:48,800
They're getting the main.
Yeah, I'm either going to be,

1651
01:33:49,100 --> 01:33:51,300
I'm either going to be here or
down in Virginia Beach.

1652
01:33:51,300 --> 01:33:57,100
So, okay, depending on what the
how quickly the weather gets

1653
01:33:57,100 --> 01:34:00,600
into town is going to determine
whether we take a trip down

1654
01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:03,200
there to to my in-laws, this
weekend, or not.

1655
01:34:03,200 --> 01:34:08,300
But either way Going to be
football on a big screen

1656
01:34:09,500 --> 01:34:12,700
somewhere start at noon and it's
going to be Kentucky, Ole Miss

1657
01:34:13,300 --> 01:34:16,700
Ole Miss home, favorite six and
a half points.

1658
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:20,400
I'm taking Kentucky and the six
and a half here.

1659
01:34:20,400 --> 01:34:25,400
I think Ole Miss probably wins
this one but I like Kentucky to

1660
01:34:25,700 --> 01:34:31,500
hang in there and keep it close.
Think we'll see to have another

1661
01:34:31,500 --> 01:34:35,700
big game for Kentucky, but I
think Ole Miss It's just has a

1662
01:34:35,700 --> 01:34:37,900
little bit more Firepower,
that's going to close it down in

1663
01:34:37,900 --> 01:34:40,000
the end.
Yeah but I think the Stoops

1664
01:34:40,000 --> 01:34:42,600
defense will keep them in there
but that is going to be.

1665
01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:45,700
The one thing is we know Lane
can scheme the hell out of

1666
01:34:45,700 --> 01:34:50,000
things on offense and exploit
just enough times to be leaked,

1667
01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:52,800
defense has a couple other news
and notes.

1668
01:34:52,800 --> 01:34:56,200
We didn't hit it earlier because
we were running a little late.

1669
01:34:56,800 --> 01:35:00,800
The West Virginia game, Thursday
night was ESPN's, highest

1670
01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:04,300
Thursday night game in five
years, and that was the Egg Bowl

1671
01:35:04,300 --> 01:35:11,100
back in 20. 17, 1.6 million
viewers and between 9:00 and

1672
01:35:11,100 --> 01:35:13,700
9:30.
It was a little over 2 million

1673
01:35:14,100 --> 01:35:16,000
and it is some people are going
to say, well, that's not a huge

1674
01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:19,100
number.
You're competing against the NFL

1675
01:35:19,300 --> 01:35:22,100
which started only 40 minutes
after we kick.

1676
01:35:22,900 --> 01:35:26,900
And one of those Brands being
Pittsburgh being literally, one

1677
01:35:26,900 --> 01:35:31,100
of the big National brand.
So, you know, again, it was one

1678
01:35:31,100 --> 01:35:33,700
of the three biggest brands and
in the sport.

1679
01:35:33,800 --> 01:35:36,700
Yeah.
So doing That I think that again

1680
01:35:36,700 --> 01:35:40,500
it shows you where we are still.
If we play a night game we're

1681
01:35:40,500 --> 01:35:45,600
still going to get people to
turn out fans and casuals alike

1682
01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:48,300
or a drawing.
We're a drone not just for the

1683
01:35:48,300 --> 01:35:52,200
interns.
They peaked take the 9:00.

1684
01:35:52,200 --> 01:35:54,900
Well actually, it's exactly.
Yeah.

1685
01:35:55,200 --> 01:36:00,000
The other couple big news was
Jeff Collins getting fired, kind

1686
01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:05,300
of shocked that they dry them a
little bit further but I mean I

1687
01:36:05,308 --> 01:36:09,200
thought he had the rest of this
year or at least until November,

1688
01:36:11,300 --> 01:36:15,200
but I mean we've already seen.
There's testing.

1689
01:36:15,900 --> 01:36:22,000
There's the optimum September.
Yeah, so you don't you don't see

1690
01:36:22,000 --> 01:36:27,500
the September firing very often
not it happens, the 80s gone

1691
01:36:27,500 --> 01:36:31,800
there as well.
So they are kind of starting

1692
01:36:31,800 --> 01:36:35,000
from scratch there and they're
in that department in terms of

1693
01:36:35,100 --> 01:36:40,300
Adding that that brand back up.
Well no now it makes sense.

1694
01:36:40,300 --> 01:36:43,300
If you're going to fire the ad
then you go in fire, the head

1695
01:36:43,300 --> 01:36:45,500
coach.
So when that ad walks in he

1696
01:36:45,500 --> 01:36:48,200
knows job one.
And actually, he can sit across

1697
01:36:48,200 --> 01:36:50,300
the table from you in the
interviews and tell you who he's

1698
01:36:50,300 --> 01:36:53,800
going after and what he's going.
After, what you can see that

1699
01:36:53,800 --> 01:36:57,300
they need a different Vision, it
wasn't just, can I bring in a

1700
01:36:57,308 --> 01:37:01,900
guy that has that young has
energy can recruit And can and

1701
01:37:01,900 --> 01:37:03,900
can put a competent team out
there.

1702
01:37:04,900 --> 01:37:10,700
That wasn't enough early.
I think Collins Didn't really

1703
01:37:10,700 --> 01:37:13,300
conform to the role as well as
they thought.

1704
01:37:13,400 --> 01:37:19,100
I think there were, there were
times where they, the coaching

1705
01:37:19,100 --> 01:37:22,000
staff hurt themselves.
Just as much as the opponent

1706
01:37:22,000 --> 01:37:27,700
did.
But in the same time, I think

1707
01:37:27,700 --> 01:37:30,700
they're looking for a completely
different direction at this

1708
01:37:30,700 --> 01:37:32,800
point because I don't, I don't
think they.

1709
01:37:32,800 --> 01:37:35,700
I think they see, they can't
just go back to apologize.

1710
01:37:35,700 --> 01:37:42,400
Onsen, you know, Academy Style.
Offense and have success but

1711
01:37:42,400 --> 01:37:47,700
they also can't just throw the
flavor of the week you know

1712
01:37:47,700 --> 01:37:51,800
offensive-minded spread system
in there and just you plug and

1713
01:37:51,808 --> 01:37:55,100
play.
They had some good players that

1714
01:37:55,100 --> 01:37:59,100
came in there initially Gibbs.
Holy moly herbs.

1715
01:37:59,200 --> 01:38:03,000
Yeah, and Jeff Simmons.
Yeah.

1716
01:38:03,000 --> 01:38:06,900
But they never were able to put
put the full picture together

1717
01:38:07,900 --> 01:38:12,800
and they ER we're a pretty
sizable rebuild.

1718
01:38:14,200 --> 01:38:17,000
They are literally, the
hurricane took the house into

1719
01:38:17,000 --> 01:38:20,400
the ocean rebuild.
Yeah, I've been seriously.

1720
01:38:20,400 --> 01:38:23,100
Like, it's like, literally,
you're relaying the foundation

1721
01:38:23,100 --> 01:38:24,900
there.
I mean, and Collins had a big

1722
01:38:24,900 --> 01:38:27,600
job.
I mean, going from shrimp.

1723
01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:31,200
Allow they were recruiting on
offense to what they were trying

1724
01:38:31,200 --> 01:38:33,900
to do with the spread.
I mean, you know, we're seeing

1725
01:38:33,900 --> 01:38:37,000
it now with an opponent.
We play with whatever they're

1726
01:38:37,000 --> 01:38:39,900
trying to do the same thing
right now and it's not Going

1727
01:38:39,900 --> 01:38:46,000
well at all and you know you
talk about square peg, round

1728
01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:47,500
hole.
That's, that's very much I

1729
01:38:47,500 --> 01:38:49,600
think.
What, what was happening there?

1730
01:38:49,600 --> 01:38:54,400
There wasn't a plan to ease from
one system into another.

1731
01:38:54,400 --> 01:38:59,000
It was very much.
A, this is what we're doing, you

1732
01:38:59,000 --> 01:39:01,800
know, get on board or or, or
not.

1733
01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:05,600
And I think just there wasn't
enough success.

1734
01:39:05,600 --> 01:39:08,600
And there wasn't enough
trajectory that said we're

1735
01:39:08,600 --> 01:39:12,700
moving in the right direction.
Direction at this point where

1736
01:39:12,700 --> 01:39:15,400
the product on the field was
acceptable anymore.

1737
01:39:16,300 --> 01:39:19,400
There you go.
Brian.

1738
01:39:19,400 --> 01:39:22,800
I'm looking here at CBS Sports,
looks like some games are

1739
01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:27,200
getting moved to Sunday Eastern
Washington and Florida.

1740
01:39:28,700 --> 01:39:33,300
You see, FSM, you know, change
to Wake Forest, Florida state

1741
01:39:33,300 --> 01:39:38,900
yet, South Carolina and he threw
the ultimate Clausen through the

1742
01:39:38,900 --> 01:39:42,100
ultimatum out there, though.
So we'll see if he stands by it.

1743
01:39:43,400 --> 01:39:49,500
Well, I mean it is what it is.
I'm South Carolina and all this

1744
01:39:49,500 --> 01:39:52,000
is suck.
South Carolina are see the south

1745
01:39:52,000 --> 01:39:57,500
Florida and East Carolina.
Originally scheduled to kick at

1746
01:39:57,500 --> 01:39:59,700
Raymond.
James Stadium, are going to go

1747
01:39:59,700 --> 01:40:03,100
to Boca, they're going to the
other side of the state to play.

1748
01:40:03,600 --> 01:40:10,200
Oh Cam and it'll kick off at
2:00 and other me that that

1749
01:40:10,200 --> 01:40:12,800
Tampa side is going to get, get
hit pretty good.

1750
01:40:13,100 --> 01:40:15,600
Well, I talked to my buddy, Mike
at work today, you know, it's

1751
01:40:15,600 --> 01:40:18,500
been 100 years since a took a
direct hit from a hurricane.

1752
01:40:19,800 --> 01:40:21,500
Man, that's insane.
Like me.

1753
01:40:21,500 --> 01:40:23,300
And him were just, I'm like,
serious.

1754
01:40:23,300 --> 01:40:26,000
And then you start thinking
about it, it has an IT wrecks

1755
01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:27,200
there.
I mean, it's going to really

1756
01:40:27,200 --> 01:40:30,200
wrecked South Carolina.
South Carolina, state moves to

1757
01:40:30,200 --> 01:40:33,700
Thursday night, Shane.
Beamer did that strictly because

1758
01:40:33,700 --> 01:40:36,800
he knows he has a war on his
hands against Kentucky next

1759
01:40:36,800 --> 01:40:38,200
week.
Might as well get two extra days

1760
01:40:38,200 --> 01:40:40,300
of prep.
Right there we go.

1761
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Nothing wrong.
That will see if clausen's

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ultimatum holds holds tight
there.

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Well the weird part is it's the
Saturday, it's going to be

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further up the coast.
Now if you talk about it's

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dangerous travel and I don't my
kids stay there.

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I get it completely.
So move the game to 7:00 or move

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your flight up.
So you're there a day early and

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you can prep in other
facilities?

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01:41:12,700 --> 01:41:15,000
Yeah, who knows?
It's going to be interesting

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01:41:15,000 --> 01:41:17,400
weekend.
All right, since nothing else is

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01:41:17,400 --> 01:41:18,300
breaking that.
I see.

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01:41:18,400 --> 01:41:20,700
E, we need to talk about.
We are going to wrap up this

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episode of The Boundary Corner
podcast.

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01:41:24,500 --> 01:41:28,300
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01:41:28,300 --> 01:41:33,200
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01:41:53,800 --> 01:41:56,500
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going to be doing any hurricane

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01:41:56,500 --> 01:42:01,000
music this weekend.
He is not, but he is going to be

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01:42:01,000 --> 01:42:05,300
next weekend at the food Huts.
Pop-up brunch Market on October

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01:42:05,300 --> 01:42:11,600
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1785
01:42:11,600 --> 01:42:14,800
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01:42:14,800 --> 01:42:17,300
Facebook as well.
We thank you for listening as

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01:42:17,300 --> 01:42:19,700
always let's Go up one thing.
Brian.

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01:42:20,100 --> 01:42:22,500
What you got?
Thank you, Chianti Jenkins.

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01:42:22,800 --> 01:42:24,000
Thank you.
Travis Wells.

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01:42:24,000 --> 01:42:27,100
We really appreciate you guys
coming on tonight.

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01:42:27,900 --> 01:42:31,600
And as always, Brian, let's go
Hokies.

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