This week we put the first half of the season behind us and turn our focus towards the primetime Thursday Night game of the week. The Hokies hit the road to Raleigh North Carolina to face the NC State Wolfpack who are licking their wounds a bit after losing their starting quarterback for the rest of the season.

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Hey welcome back to the boundary
Corner podcast along with my

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partner Brian.
See clock I'm Curtis Wilson this

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Buddy, back on a Tuesday night.

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Feeling a lot better this week.
Has everything been on your side

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of town this week, man.
It's been a, it's been a busy

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week so far, man.
We've got a couple projects.

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I've been working on couple,
couple fun things around the

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house.
Couple big things at work, so,

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it's been one of them weeks.
I know.

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It's been me.
I'm like that for you, too.

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Oh, yeah, I mean, it's fall.
It's between sports work.

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Being absolutely crazy this
month, which is what it is.

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I get a little Free in November,
which November?

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And December even though I'm
still working on some additional

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projects that were not as much
as my time being focused having

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to do a bunch of stuff because
the culmination is not till

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January cosine of that slow
build, where this month is,

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like, here's everything go, do
it, and then, okay, and you're

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going to get sick and then some
fans don't get sick.

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So you're going to be feeling
it.

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But it's All better.
Now looking forward to a fun

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week of college football
including we go that when NC

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State on Thursday night at 7:30
we're definitely talking about

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Know The Enemy this week, but
we're going to kick it off here

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tonight is something that it's
already been Rumblings because

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obviously we're seeing players
under the transfer portal.

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And so me and Fran, couple weeks
ago, kicked around well, how

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many do we need?
And where do they need to be?

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So, we're going to look into
that first.

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And then, we're going to do the
normal stuff we do on Thursday

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night.
So Brian, let's talk about it.

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Obviously, we did not have a
bigger transfer portal.

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This year only took in about six
players, only about nine left

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the as compared to someone like
Duke who took in 13 Brown will

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send you on Robbie you took in
the team kicked out about 19 so

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everybody's saying, look at do.
Dishes are doing great.

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Elco came in and started booting
guys and bringing a lot of

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people immediately and Is it
something probably could have

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did probably but now we're at
the point he at least has had

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the time to evaluate this roster
and full and you know I think

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it's time we look into the
portal next year.

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What I mean I know you feel the
same way Brian.

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Yeah I think from a it almost
seems like from from the

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perspective that prior had he
was taking a little bit more of

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a conservative approach to year
one, evaluating what we have and

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then making some moves after
that whereas Elko and Duke

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Devlin took the more aggressive
Approach and it's paid off for

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him.
They've had some success early

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in this year.
So, I mean, kudos to him up for

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being aggressive getting 13 in
the portal, cutting some, some

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little more dead weight on the
back end there.

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So me a good overall flip for
him.

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And to be honest, you know, you
said 13, I'm thinking 11:50

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baby.
Even 1314 would be the number

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that we're looking at, shoot it
for this offseason in terms of

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additions.
We need to be aggressive this

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offseason in filling some of the
holes.

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We have looking at at where we
can get better looking at where

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we can add depth and kind of
filling this roster out that was

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left decimated.
The last two to three years of

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the Fuente era as true.
And that's, and that's really

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where it is.
And we're seeing as the season

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has progressed.
We're seeing where the holes

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are.
But we're also seeing again, you

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talk about the conservative
approach, but we're also seeing

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where we're developing right?
You know, you're seeing a

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Daquan, right?
And they willing Loft and I know

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a lot of people were feeling
like Lofton was going to be a

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1,000-yard receiver but still
from a guy who only had seven

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catches last year he's stepping
up.

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Hey Kwon, right?
Stepping up.

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So I get the approach because
again if this is a five to six

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year thing which a lot of people
Will our go like to hear that.

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But in reality, you know, if
you're building it the right

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way, it is going to take longer.
But it's a lot easier to fill

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holes.
Right?

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Because you know like right now
man's my back in.

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I don't think you know if we
take something in the back end

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it's going to be more depth than
anything.

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It's going to be death, mate,
media starting safety or

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rotational caliber safety, but I
think in terms of the young

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death combined, with what we're
bringing in, in the the Current

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class.
We're kind of set at the

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quarterback position.
Yeah, seeing what we got with

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d'Alene seen what we've got with
Cam Johnson already, get a

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healthy Dorian, strong Coming
Back, DJ Harvey.

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You know, that that's for right
there that we're seeing some

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heavy playing time and that are
have shown the capability to be

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at that type of player for this
team.

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So you already got four and
that's before you start adding

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in some younger guys and some of
the development on the backend

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of guys that are already on the
roster.

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All right.
So let's start.

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We said our ballpark numbers 10
to 12.

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We're going to look at 12:00
tonight.

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Brian is saying, we can go up to
15 and you know you guys be

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liberal or conservative as you
want as you fill in the spots.

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But let's look on offense
because obviously that's where

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we're feeling the higher number.
We're saying of our 12 we're

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saying seven on offense now even
though there has been some steps

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taken in the wide receiver room,
Prime being you kind of came to

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the conclusion, we have to have
it at least two from the portal

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to help with depth and we really
need.

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And I know Caleb Smith is
eligible next year the covid

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year because the way it all
works out, he has one more year

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of Eligibility, but if he
decides to leave and even if he

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doesn't decide to leave one of
those two has to be a starter

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has to be.
Absolutely.

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Absolutely one has to be a
starter and to his kind of the

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minimum.
That's definitely Up and off

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point.
I feel like we could be really

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aggressive here because I think
bringing in bodies you're going

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to get a decent amount of run in
the in Spring, you're going to

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get a decent amount of Run next
year.

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You'll at least see what you
got.

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Everybody's going to get a shot,
if you're bringing in three,

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especially if Caleb Smith in
ends up moving on.

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So, I would be very aggressive
at that position this offseason

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in terms of the transfer portal.
But what would you be looking

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for?
Like to me, I look at Dwayne

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Lofton and he's a slot
obviously.

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Jaden Blues gone after this
year, you know?

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Is it a?
Why is that what we in starting?

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Is it a why?
I mean, I think the big thing is

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you're going to look To get a
playmaker guy that can be a true

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one.
So, yeah, I think you're looking

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more for like an X Caliber
receiver and then you let Caleb

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Smith kind of be that number
two, if he returns and if not,

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you love for a guy like Jalen
Jones, their Christian Moss to

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kind of step into that role next
year.

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All right?
So there's that.

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Why?
That we're looking to maybe

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three there.
Now, the next one, obviously,

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Brian.
This is the one where you feel

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like we have to go attack
already.

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And that's offensive line Brian.
We we kind of came to the

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conclusion, three offensive
lineman regardless to starting

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caliber and just so happens just
to couple weeks ago, a guy who

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had started at numerous
positions.

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For Wisconsin entered the
portal, he was a big-time

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recruit coming out for
Wisconsin, when they came and

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he's played, was it left guard,
right Garden, right?

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Tackle.
And, you know, obviously, like

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the writing's on the wall,
right?

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He comes in.
He I don't know what happened

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this year.
I don't follow us constant close

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enough, but clearly four games
in, he's He's leaving something

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happened, something went down
something, but I don't from the

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sounds of it, it's not something
that would be a deal.

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Breaking situation with another
team or I we would have heard I

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think a lot more about it at
this point.

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That's just my opinion.
Now, where are you primarily?

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Looking obviously with not seen
Xavier.

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Chaplain this year, is someone
like the guy from Wisconsin.

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I mean, is it going to be left
tackle, right, tackle Center.

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We needed, we need at least one
tackle and we need at least a

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center in my opinion.
If we end up getting probably,

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I'd like to get a swing guy.
So if we look at the you know

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the kitchen Constant, that will
be a great guard, guard tackle,

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combo, you wherever you need to
feed Min fit him in.

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Get a true tackle and then
whether it's Frontline or depth

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and then you get a potential
starting caliber Center that can

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push with looks like Jack
hollifield for that starting job

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next year, you know, I haven't
seen enough of him outside of

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the spring game to really
Determine whether that's

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something that I'm comfortable
with as far as a starting.

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So I definitely want to try to
get a center in the portal as we

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try to build this line back up
and backfill with some of these

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recruits.
Yeah.

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And that's the piece it's
finding starting caliber

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offensive lineman it's not just
fine lime there's gonna be

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plenty of offensive lineman in
the portal.

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I don't even do that but finding
someone to actually be able to

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play.
And that's where, you know, you

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hate to say it, it's guys,
coming off injuries.

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It's potentially a younger guy
who has Shone out and is looking

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for that starting job, right?
Like, and I hate to say it,

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someone like, you know, I hope
it doesn't happen to us.

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It's someone like Braylon more
who we've seen on tape, he can

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play it, a D1 level.
And you have somebody like that

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that is I'm not going to say
enamored but doesn't see that

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his offensive line coach has put
a lot of guys in the NFL and

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cooked up a lot of guys. yeah,
that's that's kind of the big

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thing, you know, we're We got we
got a lot, a lot of holes to

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fill that that unit right now
it's true.

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A lot of holes and it's a lot of
holes in its we were talking

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just for we came on here.
You know talking about Wells

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talking about kind of the
offense in general, but if the

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offensive line play like the way
we saw, it was the way I've seen

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it in Bryon, you come back to me
Silas.

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Nick Moore and Johnny have
played about average maybe

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Johnny slightly above average.
Hansen ceiling isn't that high?

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So his average is never going to
be that.

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So when he has those bad
moments, it's not going to.

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It's going to go from like,
right here, where a lot of guys

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are out here for way down here
and the real one that I think no

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one can figure out.
And maybe Brian, you can call up

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Robbie.
Maybe you can call your, you can

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call komlin up.
Y'all can just sit and analyze

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Parker Clements because if you
told me, Parker took a slight

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step back this year.
You be like we get it.

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You coach you skiing, it's okay.
He's taking a massive step back

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like he's almost a true freshman
again.

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And from a guy that I think we
all expected to be playing to

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really benefit from a new
offensive line coach.

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Yeah, and the thing that's most
disappointing is is past Pro

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which should translate more or
less from scheme to scheme.

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You know, it's one thing if you
you know are changing the

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emphasis from a primarily Zone,
A scheme to a primarily Gap,

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based scheme and struggle in the
running game.

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It's a completely different
thing to, you know, shit the bed

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in past Pro when you grade it
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Well, In I'd say significant
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So he wasn't obviously a
full-time starter, but he played

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significant snaps last year and
graded out pretty well.

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And it wasn't just against the
scrubs or, you know, when we

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were getting blown out and when
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which we didn't do a whole lot
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Obviously.
But you know he played

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significant snaps against pretty
solid competition last year.

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There's no reason that
especially in pass Pro that he

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we should see this significant
of a drop-off in his So I'm not

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sure exactly what's going on
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Whether he's in his head or just
you know a little bit more

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pressure is kind of put him in a
spot where he's not performing

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as well.
I'm not sure but it definitely

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has not been a good season for
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Definitely not the season.
He wanted definitely not season.

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We kind of were thinking we were
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all.
All right?

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Obviously the next one through
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quarterback.
And, you know, we said our

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stuff, it's got to be a guy who
can start in, even though we've

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seen Grant Wells have really
good moments.

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It's been some bad ones too.
And it's been some inconsistent

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and they far outweigh the good
moments we've seen.

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Now, Brian, let me ask your
opinion of this.

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Could you potentially take this
off the table of over the next

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five games?
He elevates his play, or you

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still You want a competition in
the spring?

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I want somebody to push him,
okay?

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Because I think we're at a point
where we, we know that the, the

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floor, you know, where the floor
is for.

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We're not sure, we're not sure
where the ceiling is.

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And I think if we can get mostly
kind of that upper middle of his

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play, okay?
And we put and we put some more

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Talent around him.
We might be able to do a little

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bit of the things we want to do,
okay?

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So but I still want to see if he
can get Whether that helps him

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or that helps his growth where
whether he gets better as a

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result of that.
And we see a higher level of

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play with him in the offseason
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Or whether, you know, somebody
we find in the portal can come

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in here and take that job and
run with it.

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And we, you know, we're in a,
you know, Jerrod Evan situation

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where, you know, we're one
quarterback away from putting

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some other pieces together, not
saying we're going to go on.

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around and went and games or
anything like that, but more

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saying A play elevating
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right now.
Wells is the guy that can

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Elevate the play of those around
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He kind of, he is what he is.
He's got a great arm in terms of

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velocity and being able to get
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But there's there's things in
there where it he doesn't make

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the people around him
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So we're going to have to
improve around him and we can

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potentially, you know, upgrade
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Where are they?
I now with that being said,

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though, Hypothetically.
Well though you hypothetical out

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here?
By some miracle of God, the

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Hokies go 5 and 0 to 4 and 1/2,
close out the season.

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In his play, you know, minimal
picks under three picks over 10

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touchdowns.
And when you look at the game,

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it's better.
Do you still do it?

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Or is that when you say because
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We've seen from 16, 17, 18, 19,
20, 21, 22, You know what, he

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showed enough in these last five
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We've got to stick with the next
year, if we're going to go

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portal shopping for quarterback,
it's got to be a young

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developmental guy who can
compete with Devon and Taj in

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might have the tools to unseat
Grant or in a year.

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That's a good question.
That's a good giving you a

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big-ass hypothetical.
Yeah.

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Because I mean I don't know if
like scraping into a bowl game

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is Enough to save that job.
Well, that's why I said for and

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15.
And oh yeah, that's some sad but

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we're still kind of, you know,
back ending a bowl here.

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I don't know because I've seen
enough inconsistent play that it

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would have to be very solid
consistent.

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For the remainder and I'd have
to see again, I'm talking about

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elevator play.
Look, I'd like, I need to see

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him.
Elevating the play of others.

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In those games, you want to hear
the names, Christian Moss, Jalen

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Jones and daewon Lofton having
big games with him at the helm.

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And I like that.
We're using his legs more, and

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he's shown the ability there.
I want to see that continue,

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along with the passing game,
taking some steps forward and

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hopefully that opening up a
little bit more in the Run game.

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Once were Working with loaded
boxes all the time and awesome.

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All right, one more on the
offensive side of the ball and

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we might need to duck Braun when
we say this after after empty in

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the room last chick.
But let's be honest, we probably

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are going to be in need of some
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running back.
Obviously, I think right now

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we've heard pry kept talking
King in Malachi are the 12?

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King has eligibility next year,
clearly Malachi has eligibility.

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We seen flashes of chance,
black, and Bryce Duke Palin.

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Holsten's graduated, there's a
few guys, still on the roster.

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I think basically what you're
saying is, you want some sort of

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back to compete with price and
chance and push them if not beat

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them out?
Yeah, I'd like to see somebody

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pushing for the third rotation
in the running back room.

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I think we potentially could
have had that this year if we

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had held onto Ramon Brown.
So I'm thinking that that type

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of caliber player.
Why good deal?

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So there's seven will rethink on
the portal right now.

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Roughly Midway through the
season is when we kind of came

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up with this, but when you had
the episode like last week we

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had to put this off a week.
All right defensively.

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I don't think anybody's going to
be a shock on the first one, is

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its defensive line and it's
they've got to be to deeps.

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Right here, at least two of them
and that's especially doubly

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true.
If if we if we don't get Pollard

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and Kendricks back next year,
which I think they might be back

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and it is the interior.
I mean garments likely gone this

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year, the field area, Spain
thing.

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All going to depend on what
happens with the NCAA.

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Let's not hold our breath to
are.

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Definitely don't hold your Don't
hold your breath on that and

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then with McRae and Nelson.
But the is it strictly inside

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for you?
Because if garbage gone to me,

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you need at least one and I'd
say, one almost starting caliber

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defensive in and at least a
rotational piece on the

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defensive line.
Yeah.

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Now I do think with the edge
though.

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I think the way this defense is
look this year and kind of for

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the inside to I think it's an
easier sell if you have someone

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who's putting out good tape, but
buried somewhere, You got to

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start making the phone calls and
I'm sure the phone calls are

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already being made players
already, but when garbett goes

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because garbett is out of
Eligibility, right?

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Yeah.
I'm pretty sure you don't want

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to effort that in a second here.
I think so.

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But you know the again the line
play has not been a big step

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back this year at all, but we
mentioned in that.

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What if Episode if Bono comes
back, Harvey had Williams.

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It would help everybody out a
little bit but develop.

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So we've got a quickly restock
that regardless what happened.

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Now, we could get lucky and
Pollard and Kendricks.

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Both come back and we go out and
find a couple good pieces in the

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portal.
That's going to be an

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interesting room.
Next now you've already said

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this and kind of gave Away.
You said kind of second priority

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was the safety and it's got to
be at least somebody who can

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step into a backup role because,
obviously losing tamari this

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year, you lose your leader back
there.

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Yes, strengthening people's have
played great, but now it kind of

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gets scary who's behind them.
Yeah, I think that's the big

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thing we've seen.
I think we at least need

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somebody that's either potential
starting caliber, or at least a

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rotational player back there to
kind of stir things up.

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And I think it'll help with the
development of some of the

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younger players because we don't
have to necessarily throw them

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out there.
They don't have to be chimoree

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Connor, next year, you know,
they can still work into that

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role of another year if they can
get, you know, lean on whether

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it's a Veteran that has one or
two years of Eligibility left or

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whether it's a, you know, a
sophomore that pop that can kind

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of come in and they can kind of
tag team it.

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Abso-freakin'-lutely their
Brawn.

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And what I really find
interesting about that room is

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it's like, you're you feel so
good about who's played back

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there right now, right?
You feel good about it but you

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know what?
That position.

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That's the position.
You get a stinger in your

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outfit, three games.
Yeah, that's the targeting thing

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and I and when And you know,
that's where you worry about

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that position because, you know,
you have to be aggressive even

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in this scheme, it's even more.
So you have to be aggressive.

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Now, the next piece I think, is
one that's going to probably

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turn to me ears.
And that's the linebacker room.

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I'm still feel good about the
linebacker room but I think what

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we've seen in the last really
month is Keller.

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Lawson a few of the other guys
they can play but they're not

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quite ready.
To be the full-time starter

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shit.
Now next all maybe maybe going

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through a string being with the
ones.

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Yeah but I think with that Brian
you're looking for somebody

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who's probably played
significant snaps elsewhere.

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Yeah I think that's what we
would want to look at their

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particularly at Mike just
because I don't think we really

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know what that position is going
to look like.

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Is that going to be will Johnson
next year?

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Is that going to be Jaden Keller
next year?

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What's Mike gonna look like
rolling into 2023?

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We've kind of been you know we
leaned on Dax here the last two

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years, known quantity, we know
what we're getting from him.

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You know we're kind of going
into an area where we don't know

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what that mic Position will give
us and we're still kind of

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unsettled it will write.
I mean, Tisdale played pretty

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well and The game back.
You know we still have some

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question marks though with that
position in terms of depth In

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terms of who's going to be the
guy that stepped up, is that

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going to be Keller's role.
See going to slide over to Mike.

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Is that going to be McDonald's
role?

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Is it looks like lost in the has
settled back into Sam, which I

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think is a better fit for his
skill set.

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Either primarily being in
coverage, or attacking the line

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of scrimmage and not so much
having to kind of read and and

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focus a lot more on technique
there.

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So I think that's a better.
Fit for him.

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So you know, the question is
going to be who kind of emerges

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there as well.
So we got some options there.

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We got some guys, we've seen a
lot of snaps between last year

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and this year, but we don't
really feel settled at either

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the the mic or the wheel
position kind of heading into

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next year.
So I'd like to see somebody at

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least come in that could
potentially start at one of

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those spots.
That would be the ideal

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situation and so for And lutely.
Alright, last one on the

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defensive side of the ball and I
know, Brian, you went through

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and you talked about Mansoor and
cam we mentioned, DJ Harvey the

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corner.
Back room, future looks bright.

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But, you know, with Dorian
strong as well.

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But once Armani goes in,
obviously those guys are gonna

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be stepping up.
You're really gonna be only

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three deep at the outside.
We know they'll try Harvey out

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there so that kind of we landed
on.

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Need to find at least one
outside corner right here.

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And it doesn't, it doesn't have
to be a front front line player.

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You know, that right now we're
looking at strong and Delaney,

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kind of being the one to heading
into next year, with Cam and DJ

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working in their need, to get a
fifth in there to get some extra

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rotation, some flexibility on
the outside.

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In case you get a guy that goes
down like we've seen with with

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00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,000
strong this year.
You know, you got to kind of

447
00:28:00,008 --> 00:28:04,400
have at least, you know, three
guys maybe for that.

448
00:28:04,500 --> 00:28:07,000
That can, that can line up
outside consistently and at

449
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,200
least have one or two guys that
can play the nickel.

450
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,100
Absolutely.
So again, it's one of those

451
00:28:12,100 --> 00:28:16,100
positions where you feel great
about that in safety with the

452
00:28:16,100 --> 00:28:19,100
future.
But we're not deaf wise there

453
00:28:19,100 --> 00:28:21,900
yet.
If this was two years from now

454
00:28:21,900 --> 00:28:25,800
and those guys were seniors, I
think we'd probably feel good

455
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,200
because by that time we went
through some Cycles, we have

456
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:32,400
more guys in so.
But right now looking ahead.

457
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:37,400
It's just the The Depths just
not there yet and it's again

458
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,500
it's why we're saying 15 plus in
the portal Here or you know 12

459
00:28:41,500 --> 00:28:43,100
plus in the ball this year she's
using?

460
00:28:43,900 --> 00:28:45,800
Yeah.
All right, but I mean we got

461
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,000
some help coming you know?
Yeah class that we have.

462
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,800
Well there's a there's some
pretty decent number of

463
00:28:51,900 --> 00:28:55,400
secondary pieces so you know
maybe your answers there maybe

464
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,300
we don't have to quite go
fishing as much of there's a

465
00:28:57,308 --> 00:29:00,500
couple guys that you think are
going to be you know as a true

466
00:29:00,500 --> 00:29:04,000
freshman ready to go especially
guys that enroll early but I'd

467
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,200
still keep my eyes peeled for
those pieces.

468
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,500
Lutely Brawn.
All right, so let's go over.

469
00:29:13,500 --> 00:29:16,300
Take a look at some news and
college football notes.

470
00:29:16,300 --> 00:29:21,100
And I think for this weekend,
really, really cool what's going

471
00:29:21,100 --> 00:29:24,700
on College GameDay as they go.
Visit Jackson State versus

472
00:29:24,700 --> 00:29:27,200
Southern.
I love it for the HBCU

473
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:28,900
Community.
To get that game.

474
00:29:28,900 --> 00:29:33,100
They have done this in the past.
I know they've done a couple

475
00:29:33,100 --> 00:29:36,000
where it's been like the
Showcase games like in Atlanta,

476
00:29:36,300 --> 00:29:40,900
but this is actually, you know,
at Jackson State on Campus all

477
00:29:40,900 --> 00:29:46,100
campus, you know down in Jackson
Mississippi obviously Dion's a

478
00:29:46,108 --> 00:29:48,500
draw.
Don't don't don't get it wrong.

479
00:29:49,700 --> 00:29:53,000
But it's kind of cool.
Reading some back story in the

480
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,500
history of this game and they
call it the Boombox classic.

481
00:29:56,500 --> 00:29:57,900
And I was like wow that's
interesting.

482
00:29:57,900 --> 00:29:59,600
Why they call it the Boombox
classic?

483
00:29:59,900 --> 00:30:03,700
Will you start reading into it?
The name of the bands and

484
00:30:03,700 --> 00:30:06,400
obviously HBCU culture with the
band's, it's unbelievable.

485
00:30:06,500 --> 00:30:11,400
If you don't watch, it's every
what is it the first Saturday of

486
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,200
bowl season?
The twelve o'clock game is

487
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,100
always that classic.
Yeah.

488
00:30:16,300 --> 00:30:19,200
And they always devote.
You get a little bit the

489
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,800
halftime show, but they always
devote showing you the ban on

490
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,000
the field, which is usually
amazing.

491
00:30:24,300 --> 00:30:27,200
But the reason it's called the
Boombox game is because Jackson

492
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:32,600
State's bands is called the
sonic, boom of the South but the

493
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,000
southern band is called the
human jukebox.

494
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:40,200
Thus the Boombox classic going
to be really interested to see

495
00:30:40,300 --> 00:30:45,600
if they bring di'anno set.
Because obviously now with the

496
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,100
struggles might norville's have
it at that shoe.

497
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:53,200
Lana with Georgia Tech opening
up potentially.

498
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,900
Some other schools opening up,
his name is going to be on fire.

499
00:30:57,300 --> 00:30:59,300
Yep.
His name is definitely going to

500
00:30:59,308 --> 00:31:03,200
be out there and, you know he's
earned it.

501
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:08,100
I mean, he went there, he's
attracted some big names and

502
00:31:08,100 --> 00:31:10,800
he's got them playing some
really damn good football.

503
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:15,800
You know, it's not it's not just
hey I brought in, you know, a

504
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:21,300
handful of big names and We're
doing I know they're out there

505
00:31:21,300 --> 00:31:25,400
making some noise, they really
are so he's not just out there.

506
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:30,600
I'm a name attached to this,
this position, you know, he's

507
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,700
actually out there, you know,
coaching those guys up pretty

508
00:31:32,700 --> 00:31:37,300
well and good to see.
And it's, you know, it's going

509
00:31:37,300 --> 00:31:39,400
to be interesting to see where
and it's going to be interesting

510
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:44,100
to see that scene Saturday
morning when they go live down

511
00:31:44,100 --> 00:31:47,500
at Jackson State on game day.
All right, Brian.

512
00:31:49,700 --> 00:31:52,900
Somebody got fired again this
week and it's not from a big

513
00:31:52,900 --> 00:31:54,800
program.
It is from a significantly

514
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,700
smaller program and it's will he
lie down.

515
00:31:57,700 --> 00:32:02,200
It UNC Charlotte started the
season one and seven.

516
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,300
Not the greatest record down
there.

517
00:32:06,300 --> 00:32:09,900
I know it's a program building,
but you know, there were

518
00:32:09,900 --> 00:32:13,500
Whispers And little notes that
hand.

519
00:32:13,500 --> 00:32:17,800
They like him a lot.
How you feeling that?

520
00:32:18,300 --> 00:32:20,700
That you know what's happened?
What happened?

521
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,100
I feel like we dodged a bullet
because we will heal, he's name

522
00:32:25,100 --> 00:32:27,300
got thrown out there for a lot
of jobs.

523
00:32:27,300 --> 00:32:33,200
This offseason and Virginia Tech
was one of them and we were very

524
00:32:33,300 --> 00:32:40,200
not high on on, will he lie?
He was, he was pretty low on our

525
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,100
list there.
I don't think he made the list.

526
00:32:43,100 --> 00:32:48,700
Only think he made the Dark
Horse and if he did Go back and

527
00:32:48,700 --> 00:32:50,500
look what I do.
Not remember talking about, will

528
00:32:50,500 --> 00:32:54,600
he lie in our tops?
Yeah, I don't think we did.

529
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,200
If we did, we it was just kind
of like a very low low ranking

530
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:02,500
there.
So, yeah, we dodged a bullet and

531
00:33:02,500 --> 00:33:07,300
so did a bunch of other folks
and you know we see this a lot,

532
00:33:07,300 --> 00:33:09,600
right?
You know, you get a young coach,

533
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:14,500
he comes in there, they play
inspired for a season or two and

534
00:33:14,500 --> 00:33:16,800
then all of a sudden the wheels
fall off a little bit.

535
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:22,000
We saw it with when take in
Blacksburg and we're you know,

536
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:26,300
we're seeing kind of Similar
results there in UNC Charlotte.

537
00:33:26,300 --> 00:33:32,800
So they were, they were kind of
the, one of those Underdog, you

538
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:33,800
know?
Look at, look at how they're

539
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,400
fighting type teams last year
and now that, you know, they're

540
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,200
completely in the, in the mud
this year.

541
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:48,800
So, Again I think a lot of a lot
of high that's all I'd say low

542
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:54,700
to mid power five teams, dodged
a bullet on will Healey they're

543
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,400
absolutely freaking lutely.
All right.

544
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:03,800
So Bryan we actually got a
commit pick up in football and

545
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:10,500
wrestling back on October 22nd
Jenny, Mullen who is.

546
00:34:10,699 --> 00:34:13,800
By all mean goes to st.
Joseph Regional plays defensive

547
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:19,900
end for the football team.
Is a legitimate legitimate

548
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,900
heavyweight wrestler.
Yep.

549
00:34:23,500 --> 00:34:27,500
Commits basically if you see the
Tweet, it's basically saying

550
00:34:27,500 --> 00:34:32,800
dual sport athlete committing
for 2023 for football and

551
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:37,000
wrestling.
I don't know if you had a chance

552
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,500
to see any of this tape, Ronnie
plays defensive end, he's 63,

553
00:34:40,500 --> 00:34:45,000
he's about 225 pounds, getting
up to 250 when you're assholes.

554
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:50,699
Can he legitimately do this?
Because I mean these Seasons

555
00:34:50,699 --> 00:34:56,199
overlap a little bit.
That's a great question, man.

556
00:34:56,199 --> 00:35:01,600
That's a great question.
If the idea is that he's going

557
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:07,500
to be, you know, more or less a
Guy that we're looking at on the

558
00:35:07,508 --> 00:35:10,500
scout team, he's got to looking
at for like really deep death on

559
00:35:10,500 --> 00:35:13,400
the on the Travel team than yes
sure.

560
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:20,400
It's going to be hard with how
much the seasons do overlap and

561
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,700
him being very much.
A wrestler.

562
00:35:23,700 --> 00:35:28,200
First 24.
See him, playing a significant

563
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,700
role on the football squad but
it's definitely something to

564
00:35:31,707 --> 00:35:35,300
keep an eye on.
Yeah, it is and, you know, a

565
00:35:35,308 --> 00:35:39,300
little bit of his tape is up
there and the video I'm

566
00:35:39,300 --> 00:35:40,600
watching.
Jim, I love it.

567
00:35:40,700 --> 00:35:45,400
He was playing basically knows
kind of shoots the Gap, they're

568
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:46,700
running.
Outside swing pass.

569
00:35:46,700 --> 00:35:51,100
And he actually got to the
running back about 20 yards down

570
00:35:51,100 --> 00:35:53,900
field in got enough of a hand on
them to force them out of

571
00:35:53,900 --> 00:35:58,800
bounds.
So obviously, you know, leverage

572
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,400
technique stuff like that.
When you have a rest or out

573
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:06,700
there you can tell some guys who
rents combination of size and

574
00:36:06,700 --> 00:36:12,000
speed As usually what you're
looking at man that's usually

575
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,400
what you're looking at.
So probably upside is he

576
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,200
probably won't count towards any
football scholarship.

577
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,400
If he's coming here wrestling
and seeing his credentials

578
00:36:20,500 --> 00:36:23,500
wrestling or David Cunningham
wrote some good stuff on him but

579
00:36:23,500 --> 00:36:26,800
you see those credentials it's
kind of like yeah, he's

580
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,600
definitely a potential
world-class wrestler.

581
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,300
Yeah.
All right, Ryan before we get

582
00:36:32,300 --> 00:36:35,900
into our main topic of Know The
Enemy NC State.

583
00:36:35,900 --> 00:36:38,800
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Now back to the episode All
right Brian.

593
00:37:05,300 --> 00:37:08,000
So let's kick it off here.
No the enemy NC State.

594
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:12,200
Let's start with the offense
because obviously the biggest

595
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,700
story on the offensive side of
the ball is just a few weeks

596
00:37:14,700 --> 00:37:17,800
ago.
Devin Leary starting quarterback

597
00:37:18,100 --> 00:37:20,500
preseason.
ACC Player of the Year tears a

598
00:37:20,508 --> 00:37:25,800
spec tries to go through some
rehab and eventually just comes

599
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,100
up and says I'm done for the
year.

600
00:37:27,300 --> 00:37:31,100
So it really has altered the NC
State offense significantly.

601
00:37:32,700 --> 00:37:35,900
Yeah, that's going to be the big
thing to watch is how they

602
00:37:35,900 --> 00:37:40,700
adjust around the new
quarterback, Jack Chambers and

603
00:37:40,700 --> 00:37:42,500
let me let's go ahead and start
there.

604
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:48,100
You know, Jack Chambers, he's
throwing game is still a work in

605
00:37:48,100 --> 00:37:51,700
progress.
They in the game against

606
00:37:51,700 --> 00:37:54,200
Syracuse.
He had a lot of kind of quick

607
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:58,300
read, one read Concepts.
There wasn't a whole lot of

608
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:01,500
reading the defense.
It was very much.

609
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,900
Get the ball out of your hands.
Quick, is this guy open.

610
00:38:05,100 --> 00:38:10,000
Okay, take off and run and
that's where his asset.

611
00:38:11,500 --> 00:38:15,700
He's really an asset for the
team is great athleticism.

612
00:38:16,500 --> 00:38:19,200
A lot of design runs that were
put in place for him.

613
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:26,500
QB Powers, QB draws some sweeps,
had a lot of success in the

614
00:38:26,500 --> 00:38:30,600
short stuff, in terms of
throwing the ball, but really

615
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:34,000
great when he Had to improvise.
So when that first read wasn't

616
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,300
there, he was kind of going to
scramble mode, but he would

617
00:38:37,300 --> 00:38:39,100
occasionally get himself into
trouble in that.

618
00:38:39,100 --> 00:38:42,200
So, he had somewhere.
He curfew got the first down,

619
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:46,000
but he had somewhere.
He tried to bail too quick and

620
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,100
got dropped for a sec, because
he put himself in a bad spot

621
00:38:49,100 --> 00:38:52,100
there.
Yeah, and he really hasn't

622
00:38:52,100 --> 00:38:55,700
established me chemistry or
timing in the zone read game

623
00:38:55,700 --> 00:39:00,700
either.
So we saw mesh Point some

624
00:39:00,700 --> 00:39:03,100
problems there.
Some bad decisions at the mesh

625
00:39:03,100 --> 00:39:05,800
point.
So that's something else that we

626
00:39:05,808 --> 00:39:07,300
could probably take advantage
of.

627
00:39:07,700 --> 00:39:10,300
And we're not looking at a guy
that's going to press the ball.

628
00:39:10,300 --> 00:39:12,900
Downfield, consistently as
though he will take a few shots

629
00:39:12,900 --> 00:39:15,000
here and there to kind of keep
the defense honest.

630
00:39:15,700 --> 00:39:17,900
Yep.
And with Chambers, I mean, he's

631
00:39:17,900 --> 00:39:23,200
not a big guy tall, 510 180, he,
you know, originally coming out

632
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,500
of high school, he committed to
Charleston, Southern and he was

633
00:39:26,500 --> 00:39:30,400
a starter there for three years.
So when n c-- State brought a

634
00:39:30,408 --> 00:39:33,100
minute, Lisa was a guy.
They knew had played at the FCS

635
00:39:33,100 --> 00:39:36,400
level.
We're being down there for three

636
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,100
seasons as a starter.
You know, he threw thirty eight

637
00:39:39,100 --> 00:39:45,600
touchdowns, he had 27 picks but
you know, he also rushed for 14

638
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:49,300
touchdowns over 1,000 yards in
the three seasons as a starter.

639
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:54,500
You know, best season.
Passing wise was 2020, he was a

640
00:39:54,500 --> 00:40:00,900
63%, the other two seasons under
60% and his high Seasons 2,500

641
00:40:00,900 --> 00:40:05,300
yards.
So, Contain, it's like that

642
00:40:05,300 --> 00:40:08,900
right contain contain contain
because he's not going to kill

643
00:40:08,900 --> 00:40:12,700
you with his arm but obviously
they're running attack.

644
00:40:12,700 --> 00:40:16,300
Brian.
You know with him being there

645
00:40:16,300 --> 00:40:19,700
now versus Leary it does open
that up a little bit more and

646
00:40:19,700 --> 00:40:21,800
let's talk about a couple of
those running backs.

647
00:40:22,300 --> 00:40:30,600
Let's talk about Jordan Houston.
The sty foot 10 192 pound

648
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,900
running back.
In Jordan out of Oakton.

649
00:40:34,900 --> 00:40:37,800
Virginia went to private Flint,
Hills High School up in Northern

650
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:43,100
Virginia, a composite 3 star out
of Virginia.

651
00:40:43,100 --> 00:40:45,200
He was a top, 20 Virginia
player.

652
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:51,100
Back in 2019 it did say the
Hokies did report an offer.

653
00:40:52,300 --> 00:40:55,300
I don't know how much that is.
It's always when you see an

654
00:40:55,300 --> 00:40:59,400
offer, it's an offer, but what a
19?

655
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,100
I mean, that was, you know, that
was one of the only willing, I

656
00:41:03,100 --> 00:41:05,800
think to in that class, not
three the next year for the next

657
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,400
year, whatever the fuck, what
the hell is when we were just

658
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:13,500
jacking things up and you know,
so far this year, you know, as

659
00:41:13,500 --> 00:41:17,500
the primary starter, you know,
300 yards on the ground Aven?

660
00:41:17,500 --> 00:41:20,800
Right at for Carrie, no
touchdowns on the ground.

661
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,700
But obviously Brian, I'm sure in
that tape on you saw a little

662
00:41:24,700 --> 00:41:29,100
bit of that passing game because
he does, he isn't it, has that

663
00:41:29,100 --> 00:41:31,500
element there and he's had that
element since he stepped on

664
00:41:31,500 --> 00:41:34,700
campus and point?
Yeah, I mean he's kind of a one

665
00:41:34,700 --> 00:41:37,900
cut and go back in terms of the
running game, he's got a pretty

666
00:41:37,900 --> 00:41:40,300
good Vision between the tackles,
but he's not really that home

667
00:41:40,300 --> 00:41:43,800
run threat in the Run game and
he's not pushing the pile or

668
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,200
anything like that.
He's not that like Dynamic short

669
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,900
yardage back but where he makes
his hey is in the passing game

670
00:41:49,900 --> 00:41:54,400
in all areas and he's dangerous
in the open field in the passing

671
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,700
game.
So that's one thing that we're

672
00:41:57,700 --> 00:42:00,500
going to keep bottled up.
Is that they're going to get him

673
00:42:00,500 --> 00:42:04,000
the ball quickly in space.
Especially with Chambers out

674
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,300
there.
So I got to be able to get him

675
00:42:06,300 --> 00:42:10,700
down to the ground pretty quick.
Well it's interesting to see

676
00:42:10,700 --> 00:42:14,500
here because I mean, the passing
game stats, I mean it backs up

677
00:42:14,500 --> 00:42:17,100
what you say there.
I mean he's averaging 12 a catch

678
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,900
but he only has one total
touchdown all around.

679
00:42:19,900 --> 00:42:26,300
And you know, I'm wondering
without the threat of leary

680
00:42:26,300 --> 00:42:29,700
there.
When you looked at Syracuse,

681
00:42:30,300 --> 00:42:34,200
where they still trying to get
him out, With the rivet with the

682
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:38,200
passing game, they were getting
them out, not quite as much, but

683
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:43,100
I think they were definitely
still trying to get him out as

684
00:42:43,100 --> 00:42:48,200
consistently as they could.
He was definitely very, I won't

685
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,000
say heavily used but they
definitely kept him as a big

686
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,100
part of their game plan, right?
But obviously, you take Leary

687
00:42:54,100 --> 00:42:57,800
out.
It it doesn't worry as much,

688
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,400
right?
It doesn't worry as much as I,

689
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,400
okay, you're going to take your
best running back in.

690
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,500
Yes, he is.
Good pass catcher, and you're

691
00:43:04,500 --> 00:43:07,500
going to take him away from
putting the ball in his hands

692
00:43:07,500 --> 00:43:11,100
immediately.
I take that all day knowing ya

693
00:43:11,100 --> 00:43:14,000
hangers and obviously, is
completion percentage and

694
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,700
everything like that.
Yeah, what they're not doing a

695
00:43:16,707 --> 00:43:20,000
lot of is like going empty and
like lining him up as a true

696
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,900
wide out and letting him kind of
operate out there.

697
00:43:22,900 --> 00:43:25,700
They didn't do that very much
against Syracuse with which they

698
00:43:25,700 --> 00:43:27,500
did.
Do that a lot more.

699
00:43:27,500 --> 00:43:30,100
When Leary was in there.
Yeah.

700
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,800
Now they do have a second
running back Brian.

701
00:43:32,900 --> 00:43:36,300
And that's I know I'm going to
butcher this, so if you got the

702
00:43:36,300 --> 00:43:39,500
pronunciation guide somewhere,
bring it up for me and that's to

703
00:43:39,500 --> 00:43:47,400
be Su Mo Cong Cong Bay six foot
210-pound from willing Borough

704
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:51,600
New Jersey running back.
I got you you got it you pulling

705
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:58,500
it up here D me Sue my carne Bay
a car May okay interesting

706
00:43:58,500 --> 00:44:01,500
interesting.
Well anyway class of 2020 one

707
00:44:01,500 --> 00:44:09,200
composite 86 3, star with 24/7,
top 25 players in New Jersey,

708
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,500
another good State, you can top
25 players from usually, there's

709
00:44:12,500 --> 00:44:14,600
a chance, they can turn out to
be something.

710
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,800
I know he did not play against
Syracuse, so it will be

711
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,200
interesting to see if he goes
against the Hokies.

712
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:26,800
But you know, in his redshirt
freshman year, solid numbers

713
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,800
across the board, you know, 5.8
of Carry Three touchdowns.

714
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:32,800
They're using a little bit in
the passing game.

715
00:44:32,900 --> 00:44:37,700
I'm with about 12 receptions,
what's the tape showing as him

716
00:44:37,700 --> 00:44:40,100
compared to Houston?
Yeah.

717
00:44:40,100 --> 00:44:42,800
He's a little bit more of their,
their kind of perimeter running

718
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,500
back the guy that they use to
kind of attack the perimeter of

719
00:44:45,508 --> 00:44:48,400
the running game.
He also does a really great job

720
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,300
of like cutting back on those
Zone plays especially inside

721
00:44:51,300 --> 00:44:54,500
Zone.
A lot of times when he cuts back

722
00:44:54,500 --> 00:44:57,400
across the defense that creates
a big crease, he can get up in

723
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,900
there and make some some big
runs that way, it's also a good

724
00:45:00,900 --> 00:45:04,500
lead Blocker in the in the past
Pro and quarterback lead game.

725
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,600
So if he's back in this game
that might be a little bit more

726
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,500
effective than we saw against
Syracuse.

727
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:14,000
And he is also used in the
passing game, but those are more

728
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:18,000
like check downs and screens
versus the dynamic threat that

729
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:23,900
we get from from Houston.
Interesting.

730
00:45:23,900 --> 00:45:27,200
Interesting there on.
Who worries you more?

731
00:45:30,900 --> 00:45:33,100
Houston.
Just because of what he can do

732
00:45:33,100 --> 00:45:35,500
in both areas, the run in the
past.

733
00:45:37,700 --> 00:45:40,800
I'm not so much worried about
what with Demi can do in the

734
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,000
passing game.
He's more of a just a check down

735
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:44,400
guy.
If we can keep him bottled up

736
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,700
between the tackles, I think
we're good to go there.

737
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,700
I'm using, is the guy that can
can bother me there?

738
00:45:50,300 --> 00:45:52,800
All right, let's hope they
continue to save him Robbie.

739
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,400
Michael Allen.
I'd have to go back and look on

740
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,200
the board because I don't, you
know, I don't see him registered

741
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,400
in the stats here and obviously,
burnt Ryan, I'm assuming looking

742
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,000
at the tape, he didn't jump
there if he played any.

743
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:09,200
So let's hope they keep him
bottled up for the rest of the.

744
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:10,800
Yeah, we don't even see him this
week.

745
00:46:10,900 --> 00:46:13,400
Yeah, we don't, we don't there's
four games for them after that.

746
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,100
Look, if they're going to work
your man, let's hope they saving

747
00:46:16,100 --> 00:46:18,500
for those last four.
Exactly.

748
00:46:18,700 --> 00:46:21,400
All right, let's take a look at
one of the wide receivers and

749
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:26,300
that's key on the Seine, Six
asumi, 511, 190 pounds from

750
00:46:26,300 --> 00:46:30,900
Lumberton, North Carolina and
seeing the First full game that

751
00:46:30,900 --> 00:46:33,200
Chambers played of the
receivers.

752
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,800
He did get good amount of
targets with four receptions and

753
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:41,300
39 yards from in the longest 16
Season wide.

754
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,600
Just 20 receptions.
He did have quite a few against

755
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:51,300
Clemson just six or 37 but
obviously he was part of that

756
00:46:51,300 --> 00:46:54,300
game.
So yeah.

757
00:46:55,300 --> 00:46:57,300
And he's a guy that he's got
good hands.

758
00:46:57,300 --> 00:47:01,200
He's like kind of a shitty
Target but he's more of a stick

759
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,600
mover than he is a playmaker.
You're not going to see any big

760
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:07,700
plays down the field with him
very often more.

761
00:47:07,700 --> 00:47:11,800
The curls, quick out screens,
some shallow, crossers,

762
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,100
occasionally you'll see him, run
a corner route.

763
00:47:15,500 --> 00:47:19,300
That's kind of the, the big, the
big big routes.

764
00:47:19,300 --> 00:47:23,300
You'll see him run in this
offense. and they will

765
00:47:23,300 --> 00:47:27,000
occasionally take a shot with
him between the hashes but

766
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,100
they're not, he's not a guy
that's going to just line up

767
00:47:29,100 --> 00:47:35,300
outside and run past a
cornerback All right, so let me

768
00:47:35,300 --> 00:47:38,400
ask this Braun and you've been
watching the tape.

769
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,900
Obviously, Thayer Thomas was
their big wide receiver, right?

770
00:47:43,300 --> 00:47:46,400
Yep.
How much?

771
00:47:48,100 --> 00:47:50,800
I mean, I don't want to say it's
he just completely.

772
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:55,500
I mean, when you saw number,
when you saw number five, when

773
00:47:55,500 --> 00:47:59,900
you watch the Syracuse tape in
the game, I mean, is it just

774
00:47:59,900 --> 00:48:01,700
Chambers just can't get it to
him?

775
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,900
It was a little bit of that I
think just because of the the

776
00:48:07,900 --> 00:48:12,400
skillset and because of the way
Syracuse was playing them.

777
00:48:12,700 --> 00:48:14,000
Okay.
I didn't really have a whole lot

778
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,500
of opportunities to operate the
way he normally does and it

779
00:48:17,500 --> 00:48:21,400
definitely goes away from from
chamber strength, what they are

780
00:48:21,408 --> 00:48:25,000
Thomas does well, so it's kind
of a little bit of an oil and

781
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,400
vinegar situation there.
We got to make sure we don't

782
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,400
give him opportunities where
Chambers can get an easy throw

783
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,100
to him though.
Yep.

784
00:48:33,100 --> 00:48:34,600
Because he definitely can bust
their guns.

785
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:38,500
He does have a long catch this
year of 75 yards.

786
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:40,800
All right Brian let's do real
quick here.

787
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:44,500
Let's jump on the scheme here
scheme is Tim Beck.

788
00:48:44,500 --> 00:48:49,600
Tim back who came from Texas
where he was a josi from 2017 to

789
00:48:49,900 --> 00:48:52,800
2019.
He's been at NC State now since

790
00:48:52,800 --> 00:49:01,400
2021 step back, do kind of that
Smash Mouth spread our po game.

791
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:08,000
Lots of E 1 and 12 Personnel,
lots of motion and shifts and

792
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:12,000
kind of window dressing, you'll
see a lot of jet motion, bubble

793
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,500
motion orbit motion.
They're gonna throw a little bit

794
00:49:14,500 --> 00:49:18,500
everything, try to get the
defense misaligned and out

795
00:49:18,500 --> 00:49:22,200
leveraged, you'll see a lot of
screens and quick throws to the

796
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:26,100
perimeter to get guys in space
and they are selective with deep

797
00:49:26,100 --> 00:49:29,700
shots down the field and
especially now with Leary out

798
00:49:29,700 --> 00:49:34,900
much more selective at least in
the We have so far of what

799
00:49:34,900 --> 00:49:36,500
Chambers likes to do down the
field.

800
00:49:37,700 --> 00:49:41,300
Let me ask this.
I mean do you think he's

801
00:49:41,300 --> 00:49:43,700
purposely going to play a very
controlled game?

802
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,100
Not take risks against the to
and 50p team.

803
00:49:47,900 --> 00:49:50,900
Yeah and I think what we're
about to talk about is the

804
00:49:50,900 --> 00:49:52,400
reason why he's going to do
that.

805
00:49:52,900 --> 00:49:55,200
All right, let's flip it over.
Let's talk about the defensive

806
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,300
side of the ball and let's jump
out straight up.

807
00:49:58,300 --> 00:50:01,100
And let's talk about Drake
Thomas, because we're talking

808
00:50:01,100 --> 00:50:04,200
about three linebackers tonight.
Y'all know normally will mix it

809
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:11,500
up. safety DB, all three of the
boundary line backers because

810
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:16,900
they all three, they're all
leading the team in tackling and

811
00:50:16,900 --> 00:50:24,500
legitimately they've accounted
for as a group this year, 132

812
00:50:24,500 --> 00:50:31,400
tackles In seven games, they are
a dynamic unit.

813
00:50:32,100 --> 00:50:34,900
But let's talk about Drake,
Thomas, first Drake, Thomas

814
00:50:35,100 --> 00:50:38,200
linebacker six-foot-two, 30 Wake
Forest, North Carolina.

815
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:43,100
When he came out, he was a
composite three-star, back in

816
00:50:43,100 --> 00:50:49,100
the class of 2019, a top-25
inside linebacker.

817
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,800
You know, had looks from
Alabama, had looks from Clemson

818
00:50:54,400 --> 00:51:00,000
and So he got some looks from a
lot of different schools.

819
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:03,400
Text took a look at it.
I mean, obviously you go look at

820
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,300
it.
Charlie Wilds, who used to do

821
00:51:05,300 --> 00:51:08,100
North Carolina and Bud was a
secondary.

822
00:51:08,100 --> 00:51:12,400
So obviously, if he called those
two guys eyes, it said

823
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,300
something.
So what's the tape sale?

824
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:18,900
Tape says that he's a damn good
outside.

825
00:51:18,900 --> 00:51:24,400
Linebacker plays really fast
likes to penetrate and jump in

826
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:28,300
the rushing Lanes attacks and
pursues along the edge very

827
00:51:28,300 --> 00:51:31,300
well.
The only really weakness in his

828
00:51:31,300 --> 00:51:35,100
game is that you know you can't
get him to over pursue or get

829
00:51:35,100 --> 00:51:37,700
fooled with window dressing.
So if we're able to do anything

830
00:51:37,700 --> 00:51:40,600
with the misdirection, we might
be able to get him out of

831
00:51:40,607 --> 00:51:44,300
position there but you know when
he gets a good read and uses his

832
00:51:44,300 --> 00:51:47,600
technique he is as disruptive.
To visit any player you'll see

833
00:51:48,100 --> 00:51:50,500
now.
And I said the whole unit, he's

834
00:51:50,500 --> 00:51:53,900
leading the team 50 tackles
three pass deflected.

835
00:51:54,100 --> 00:51:56,700
Now Brian would there because
we're going to talk about the

836
00:51:56,700 --> 00:51:58,900
other side outside linebacker
next here.

837
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,900
Are there, is there a field side
outside linebacker in the

838
00:52:02,900 --> 00:52:06,400
boundary side or is it ones on
the left?

839
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,000
Ones on the right?
And that's where they stay.

840
00:52:09,300 --> 00:52:10,900
They kind of mix it up
sometimes.

841
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:16,100
Usually it's they're going
strong and weak but sometimes

842
00:52:16,100 --> 00:52:18,400
they'll go go, go fielded
boundary.

843
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:22,200
If there is a if they go Tempo
throw off its goes Tempo.

844
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:27,300
Okay, so there is no way to say
Drake's, always going to be on

845
00:52:27,300 --> 00:52:29,700
the boundary side.
Tom Wilson, who are going to

846
00:52:29,700 --> 00:52:30,100
talk.
Up.

847
00:52:30,100 --> 00:52:31,600
Next here is always going to be
on the field.

848
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:36,100
So to watch number 32 and 11 see
where they're lining up.

849
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,200
Every time because you can't
guarantee we're going to be.

850
00:52:40,700 --> 00:52:42,900
It's yeah, it's not, it's not a
true key.

851
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:51,800
They primarily you'll get C
Wilson planning to the strong

852
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:55,000
side, okay?
But like I said, depending on if

853
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,200
the offense goes Tempo or not,
that could switch up.

854
00:52:57,500 --> 00:52:58,900
All right, well, let's talk
about it.

855
00:52:58,900 --> 00:53:03,000
Let's talk about Peyton Wilson,
the other linebacker 64, 230

856
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:07,000
pounds out of Hillsboro, North
Carolina came out.

857
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:12,600
The class of 2018 and he was a
stud.

858
00:53:13,500 --> 00:53:19,400
I mean, a stud in every sense he
was a four-star, 24/7.

859
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:24,200
Had him as a 97, he was a top 40
player, he was top for outside

860
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:27,100
linebacker in the country.
He was the number four player in

861
00:53:27,100 --> 00:53:29,500
North Carolina.
And if you take a look at his

862
00:53:29,500 --> 00:53:31,500
offer list, it's all the big
names.

863
00:53:31,900 --> 00:53:34,900
There's Alabama, There's
Clemson, there's Florida State,

864
00:53:34,900 --> 00:53:39,000
there's Georgia, there's Penn
State. we did make the offer

865
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:47,000
back, way back in 2018, and this
season so far, I mean, 42, total

866
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:52,200
tackles What's the tape showing
because, you know, obviously a

867
00:53:52,207 --> 00:53:55,500
lot of accolades are from the
recruiting services and, you

868
00:53:55,500 --> 00:54:01,300
know, in last year didn't play.
I think he got hurt last year,

869
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:07,000
but 2020 108 tackles yep.
And I mean really good house.

870
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:10,500
Another good really good outside
linebacker really Elite Pursuit

871
00:54:10,500 --> 00:54:13,900
skills, he's really strong at
the point of attack but it wrong

872
00:54:13,900 --> 00:54:17,000
Army, the puller, keeping good
leverage in the gap.

873
00:54:19,100 --> 00:54:22,800
Good open field tackle.
ER if there's a weakness in his

874
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:26,300
game is that if you can get on
him he's not great at shedding

875
00:54:26,300 --> 00:54:32,100
blocks but if he's shooting gaps
and you know, playing playing

876
00:54:32,100 --> 00:54:35,100
with with leverage, it's hard.
It's hard to keep him off the

877
00:54:35,100 --> 00:54:36,300
ball.
The ball carrier there.

878
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:41,100
All right, so there's two really
good linebackers.

879
00:54:41,300 --> 00:54:43,100
Let's just talk about the third
linebacker.

880
00:54:43,100 --> 00:54:49,200
Let's talk about Isaiah more,
the six-foot-two 232 pounds.

881
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:52,600
This is gonna hurt everybody.
When I say this, he's from

882
00:54:52,600 --> 00:55:00,100
Chester Virginia, Ouch class of
2017.

883
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:06,800
He was a high Three Star by 24/7
for 789 number 12, player in the

884
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:13,100
state top 20 outside linebacker
in the country plated LC Bird

885
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:19,400
and five years ago LC Bird was
still one of the dogs here in

886
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,400
Richmond.
They don't say completely fell

887
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,300
off but with the rise of
Highland Springs VA Piranha

888
00:55:24,300 --> 00:55:27,500
returning, they're not as big as
they used to be.

889
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:33,600
We did not offer, but he was not
as highly recruited coming out

890
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,600
by some people.
Only a few offers here and there

891
00:55:37,100 --> 00:55:41,500
but he's making people pay for
that and NC State took the right

892
00:55:41,500 --> 00:55:45,500
angle you know 40 total tackles
this year, he does have a sack.

893
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:50,600
And what's the tape showing on
mr.

894
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:52,700
Moore.
Yeah.

895
00:55:52,700 --> 00:55:56,800
He's there Mike, he's often
matched up in coverage on the

896
00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:00,200
inside.
Most tied in when in man

897
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,800
coverage, he's really good at
sheddings and shedding blocks,

898
00:56:04,900 --> 00:56:08,000
really good at working through
the trash, to get to his spot

899
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:13,000
and make plays in The Run game.
The only real weakness in his

900
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,200
game is that he will
occasionally missed tackles in

901
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:18,800
the open area.
So if Get him in space, you kind

902
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,200
of you kind of put him at a
disadvantage but if he's working

903
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:25,300
inside that traffic and you
don't have a big Lane to kind of

904
00:56:25,300 --> 00:56:34,200
maneuver, he's on, get you down.
All right, let me be very Frank

905
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:38,600
with you Braun of these three
linebackers who has the

906
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:46,500
potential to do the most damage.
Thursday night, I'm going to say

907
00:56:46,500 --> 00:56:50,700
Dreher Thomas just because of
how his quickness, okay?

908
00:56:53,900 --> 00:56:56,200
I think stronger.
I think his quickness is going

909
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:58,700
to be could be a Difference
Maker for us.

910
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:01,500
All right.
All right.

911
00:57:01,500 --> 00:57:04,800
So we talked about three
linebackers because obviously

912
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:08,100
sometimes when you have that
good of a unit you just need to

913
00:57:08,107 --> 00:57:12,200
discuss them and I know, Brian.
I kind of left the last one

914
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:15,000
opened up for you and you shot
me and said you want to talk

915
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,500
about Josh Harris and it's
funny.

916
00:57:17,500 --> 00:57:24,200
Josh Harris, six-foot-four 325.
He is from Roxboro, North

917
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:27,200
Carolina.
So for Robbie who's listening

918
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,900
out there in any of our other
friends Mal effects County?

919
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,900
It's been was a class of 2019.
He played for person.

920
00:57:33,900 --> 00:57:36,900
Hi Brian School.
You were very familiar with in

921
00:57:36,900 --> 00:57:39,000
your four years of playing
football for Halla.

922
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:44,400
Fortunately, I'm 40 year class
of 2019 and a pretty big-time

923
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,600
recruit.
It's why you continue to go do

924
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:50,300
these smaller parts of your
state to recruit because guys

925
00:57:50,300 --> 00:57:56,900
like Josh Harris come out, he
was a four-star top 25 defensive

926
00:57:56,900 --> 00:58:01,300
tackle in the country top 250
player in the composite top 15,

927
00:58:01,300 --> 00:58:04,500
the state of Carolina when he
came out and and he was

928
00:58:04,500 --> 00:58:07,200
recruited.
You see the name Alabama?

929
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:13,100
You see Clemson Wisconsin came
down and made offer am Tennessee

930
00:58:13,100 --> 00:58:15,500
of how the state.
So highly recruited.

931
00:58:15,500 --> 00:58:18,900
Got a little person County and
even though his numbers aren't

932
00:58:18,900 --> 00:58:22,300
big Braun, I think we see that
sighs.

933
00:58:22,300 --> 00:58:25,500
I think We probably know where
you're about to go with what he

934
00:58:25,500 --> 00:58:28,900
does.
Well, you know, when we talk

935
00:58:28,900 --> 00:58:33,500
about the 33, you talk about the
guy in the middle being the guy

936
00:58:33,500 --> 00:58:38,100
that helps the three guys that I
just mentioned, eat all night

937
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:40,900
and that's what he does.
He's a space heater.

938
00:58:41,500 --> 00:58:44,300
He does a really good job of
occupying blockers.

939
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:48,000
He regularly re-establishes the
line of scrimmage.

940
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:53,300
And that's big for the type of
player in this system.

941
00:58:54,100 --> 00:58:57,000
He underrated as a pass rusher,
he's a really good.

942
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:04,400
Push Pull in a bull rush and he
uses those pretty regularly and

943
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:07,200
he's able to get some some quick
penetration on the quarterback.

944
00:59:07,700 --> 00:59:09,900
The only thing I'll say about
him is motor could be a little

945
00:59:09,900 --> 00:59:12,300
better and that might come with
a, you know, another year to

946
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:17,400
conditioning in the program.
But yeah, definitely Dynamic

947
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:22,500
player for his size and now I'm
going back through that message

948
00:59:22,700 --> 00:59:25,500
real quick.
Even though this is a long time

949
00:59:25,500 --> 00:59:30,300
ago, he actually did go to
Halifax County Schools until the

950
00:59:30,300 --> 00:59:34,600
sixth grade, so he would, I
guess he would have not played

951
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:36,900
middle school ball, right?
Middle School still six, seven

952
00:59:36,900 --> 00:59:38,100
eight.
Yeah.

953
00:59:38,300 --> 00:59:40,700
He just missed it, just missed
it.

954
00:59:40,700 --> 00:59:44,100
Just miss being a lion just miss
being a lion playing for the

955
00:59:44,100 --> 00:59:46,100
team.
All right, well, Brian, let's

956
00:59:46,100 --> 00:59:48,600
flip it.
We obviously are super familiar

957
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:52,800
with this defensive system with
Tony Gibson.

958
00:59:53,500 --> 00:59:55,500
But let's just talk about a
little bit more.

959
00:59:55,500 --> 00:59:58,500
Let's talk about that 335
stagnant, Tony runs.

960
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:04,500
Yeah it's a 335 it does a good
job of confusing.

961
01:00:04,500 --> 01:00:08,400
The blocking schemes with you
know some unbalanced and

962
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,700
shifting that can get them
confused at times.

963
01:00:11,300 --> 01:00:14,000
They don't bring a lot of heavy
pressure usually three down.

964
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:20,600
Plus 1 is what they bring in
terms of rushing the passer so

965
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:23,700
they will Blitz occasionally but
that's not something that Do

966
01:00:23,700 --> 01:00:26,700
very often, it's kind of where
it's coming from.

967
01:00:26,700 --> 01:00:29,600
You don't really know where it's
coming from, and that's where it

968
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:31,900
kind of creates that confusion
across the offensive line.

969
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:36,900
They get consistent pressure by
bringing just those four, but

970
01:00:36,900 --> 01:00:40,400
it's one of those again.
If you can get get the Run going

971
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:42,300
against them, they become
vulnerable because they're not

972
01:00:42,300 --> 01:00:44,400
very great in the back end,
which we didn't talk about

973
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:47,400
anyone on the back end.
And for a pretty pretty decent

974
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:50,500
reason they're there.
They're not bad but there's

975
01:00:50,500 --> 01:00:54,300
nothing outstanding.
They're really kind of jumps off

976
01:00:54,300 --> 01:00:57,300
the screen.
Alright, so there it is.

977
01:00:57,300 --> 01:01:01,500
No the enemy.
So remember those names?

978
01:01:01,500 --> 01:01:04,400
Remember some of those things.
We're talking about the scheme.

979
01:01:05,100 --> 01:01:08,000
All right, Brian.
Let's go over to the Hokies keys

980
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:12,100
and I know I was I told you I
won't line is going to be what I

981
01:01:12,100 --> 01:01:14,600
said, the rest of the friggin
year until we start doing it,

982
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:18,200
but let's be straight up.
It's going to be how good can we

983
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:23,100
run the ball on Thursday night?
They're decent.

984
01:01:23,300 --> 01:01:26,400
No, they're decent team against
the run, you know, they're

985
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:28,900
essentially top there. 36 in the
country.

986
01:01:29,300 --> 01:01:32,900
They average right at 4.3, carry
the given up, just over 120

987
01:01:32,900 --> 01:01:37,500
yards, a game.
But and I don't, it's really

988
01:01:37,500 --> 01:01:38,500
weird.
You see this?

989
01:01:38,500 --> 01:01:42,200
But Devon Larry goes down.
And yes, they play.

990
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:45,100
Jordan Travis at FSU, a very
mobile quarterback, and then

991
01:01:45,100 --> 01:01:47,700
they played Syracuse with one
week to prepare.

992
01:01:48,300 --> 01:01:51,900
But the last two games, this
defense is uncharacteristically

993
01:01:51,900 --> 01:01:54,500
giving up six and a half per
carry.

994
01:01:55,600 --> 01:02:02,100
Now.
It's I'm trying to suffice that.

995
01:02:03,700 --> 01:02:08,400
Yeah I mean I think the big
thing is that If we can get and

996
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:10,700
we seen it because you get,
you've had back-to-back weeks

997
01:02:10,700 --> 01:02:13,900
where you got a quarterback,
that is either very mobile.

998
01:02:13,900 --> 01:02:16,600
Or highly mobile Schrader has
good Mobility.

999
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:21,200
You know, we saw with FSU.
What happened there, if we can

1000
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:29,400
run the ball as effectively as
we did with Wells that are last

1001
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:32,300
game, I think that's, that's
something that we can look at.

1002
01:02:32,300 --> 01:02:36,500
That's something we can build on
and that'll that'll open up.

1003
01:02:36,700 --> 01:02:38,500
More things for the running
backs as well.

1004
01:02:38,500 --> 01:02:40,700
So if we can get, I'm not saying
we need to get that

1005
01:02:40,700 --> 01:02:44,300
six-and-a-half carry that we've
seen that be great.

1006
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:46,300
Yeah, that'd be great.
Then the great.

1007
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:51,000
But if we can get, you know, a
shade above that average and

1008
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:57,100
that, you know, 135 1 to 150
range as a team and somewhere

1009
01:02:57,100 --> 01:03:01,600
around four four-and-a-half,
carry 1/2, I'll go four and a

1010
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:04,000
half.
Okay, well, let me ask you this

1011
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,800
because I think we could lower
because I think them Susan.

1012
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:11,000
Leary.
I mean do you think if we run

1013
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:14,300
the ball 40 times and get go
three and a half of carry

1014
01:03:14,300 --> 01:03:17,900
without lyrics and I'm
suppressing this because they

1015
01:03:17,900 --> 01:03:22,100
don't lose a good enough
quarterback against a team like

1016
01:03:22,100 --> 01:03:25,200
we're built this year.
He could potentially beat us,

1017
01:03:25,300 --> 01:03:27,500
right?
Yeah, he could have a game where

1018
01:03:27,500 --> 01:03:30,500
he beats us, not the rest of the
team.

1019
01:03:31,100 --> 01:03:35,000
So, I say 35 times, would you
take three and a half of Carrie?

1020
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:38,700
And that would put us at what
about 120.

1021
01:03:39,100 --> 01:03:41,500
I'm gonna throw you a caveat
there, okay?

1022
01:03:41,500 --> 01:03:44,100
Because not all three and a half
per carries.

1023
01:03:44,100 --> 01:03:46,600
Are built the same right
through.

1024
01:03:47,100 --> 01:03:51,900
So if we're talking more boom or
bust up say no, that would not

1025
01:03:51,900 --> 01:03:54,300
suffice.
If we're talking consistently

1026
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:59,300
since is in is consistently not
just on the whole getting 3.5

1027
01:03:59,300 --> 01:04:02,900
but if we're consistently,
getting 3 to 4 yards, every time

1028
01:04:02,900 --> 01:04:05,100
we rush the ball then.
Yes.

1029
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:09,600
If we're having a gain of 20 and
then we got back to Baghdad -

1030
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:13,900
want to then no, no.
We're that's not, that's it

1031
01:04:13,900 --> 01:04:17,300
done.
I like that caveat and that's

1032
01:04:17,300 --> 01:04:19,100
the caveat.
I want to see because if you're

1033
01:04:19,100 --> 01:04:23,100
telling me we're averaging three
and a half and if our long all

1034
01:04:23,100 --> 01:04:27,200
nights 12, but we're still
averaging three and a half.

1035
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:29,700
That means they're not getting
in the backfield.

1036
01:04:29,700 --> 01:04:33,400
That means we're getting line of
scrimmage or those one or two

1037
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:35,400
yard games Every Time We Touch
them over.

1038
01:04:35,500 --> 01:04:39,800
Moving forward consistent
because to your point, what

1039
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:42,600
scares the hell out of you
saying me saying

1040
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:46,800
three-and-a-half is well what if
Keshawn catches just catches the

1041
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:48,000
crease?
Like we've seen a couple of

1042
01:04:48,008 --> 01:04:52,500
times and go 65 yards.
That means the other 29 carries

1043
01:04:52,500 --> 01:04:56,600
a gonna be about what 1.5.
Okay, I don't guesses.

1044
01:04:56,900 --> 01:05:02,100
So yeah I mean I'll say I'll
take a touchdown in two field

1045
01:05:02,100 --> 01:05:04,000
goals over that, one long
touchdown.

1046
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:08,500
Long as we're continuously.
Yeah, if because if we

1047
01:05:08,508 --> 01:05:10,500
consistently moving the
football, then we're

1048
01:05:10,500 --> 01:05:13,400
consistently getting into
scoring range and putting some

1049
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:18,300
points on the board.
And without Leary, some points

1050
01:05:18,300 --> 01:05:19,900
is going to keep us in this
game.

1051
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:26,100
That's I mean it's big because
it's one of those games because

1052
01:05:26,100 --> 01:05:30,400
it's Chambers, I do think Tim I
think Beck's going to play close

1053
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:32,700
to the vest.
I think he knows he has a good

1054
01:05:32,700 --> 01:05:34,700
defense on the other side.
I think doors going to play

1055
01:05:34,700 --> 01:05:37,500
close to the vest because what
he does it need is Jack

1056
01:05:37,500 --> 01:05:38,900
Chambers.
Going out there and throwing a

1057
01:05:38,900 --> 01:05:42,500
pick six or taking points off
the board, right?

1058
01:05:42,500 --> 01:05:47,500
He does he doesn't want to end
up in a similar situation that

1059
01:05:47,500 --> 01:05:53,800
we put BC in early in that game.
Where, you know, they have some

1060
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:58,100
things that they can do well but
they're having to play catch-up

1061
01:05:58,100 --> 01:06:01,400
the whole time.
Makes.

1062
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:04,300
And I'm not saying that, I
obviously, they don't have a an

1063
01:06:04,300 --> 01:06:08,100
offensive line as awful as
Boston College has, at least,

1064
01:06:08,100 --> 01:06:12,300
especially as they were when we
played them, they've they're a

1065
01:06:12,300 --> 01:06:17,900
little bit improved since then,
but at the same time, you never

1066
01:06:17,900 --> 01:06:20,400
liked to play from behind two
scores.

1067
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:25,800
So now, if I don't think they're
going to come out aggressive in

1068
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:31,000
this game, At least on the
offensive side, got it.

1069
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:33,700
Well, let's flip it down.
Let's talk about the Hokies run

1070
01:06:33,700 --> 01:06:38,700
defense because I think I think
Chambers out there that always

1071
01:06:38,700 --> 01:06:40,600
worries you as a running
quarterback because it feels

1072
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:43,400
like it's just been our Achilles
heel for years upon years now.

1073
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:46,800
But just in general, you know,
they have two solid running

1074
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:51,200
backs who can make gains and
they're coming off plan to good

1075
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:54,400
defense has especially to good.
Run defense, has you know

1076
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:57,800
Florida State's 22nd in the
country Syracuse?

1077
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:01,600
Is, you know, get their rank
here.

1078
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:03,400
I had it up a second ago.
I went away.

1079
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:09,100
Syracuse 44th in the country so
they did not play.

1080
01:07:10,500 --> 01:07:13,400
Excuse me on that.
Braun, I had the wrong data

1081
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:16,600
point up here.
Give me one moment, but we know

1082
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:19,900
Syracuse has a good defense.
We've seen that all year.

1083
01:07:19,900 --> 01:07:26,800
Syracuse has a very good defense
overall in, you know, 39th

1084
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:30,800
against the Run Florida.
Estate not as good against the

1085
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:37,200
run, but when you watch those
two games and just kind of watch

1086
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:43,400
the rain attack, How big is it?
Like if because if you say, you

1087
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:46,900
say, we get three if we give up
3.7 a carry to them.

1088
01:07:48,100 --> 01:07:50,900
Well, first of all, the games
going to be ugly, anyway, it's

1089
01:07:50,900 --> 01:07:54,300
going to be really ugly they go
3.7 and Carrie.

1090
01:07:56,600 --> 01:08:00,600
Yeah, if they go 3.7 to carry
then it gets really ugly because

1091
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:05,700
and in that in that situation, I
mean we're kind of on equal

1092
01:08:05,700 --> 01:08:08,700
footing there because if they're
struggling to run the ball,

1093
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:12,000
they're having to put Chambers
in a situation.

1094
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:17,100
He's not great in.
I'd probably take on the whole

1095
01:08:18,700 --> 01:08:22,200
what wells can do over.
What Chambers can do really?

1096
01:08:23,100 --> 01:08:29,000
It's just just narrowly because
I think Wells can make a couple

1097
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:33,200
throws down the field at a
better clip than what Chambers

1098
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:36,600
can Chambers might nickel and
dime you he might throw you

1099
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:40,399
quick outs screens.
Little flares to the running

1100
01:08:40,399 --> 01:08:43,800
back and wide receiver things
that can kind of get you some,

1101
01:08:43,899 --> 01:08:46,200
maybe some yards after the
catch, but he's not going to

1102
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:48,200
attack you downfield,
consistently.

1103
01:08:48,700 --> 01:08:51,700
Okay, that's something we can do
a little bit better, I think.

1104
01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:55,100
So that's where there's some
opportunity there if we can stop

1105
01:08:55,100 --> 01:09:00,000
there, rushing attack early, and
get them where they have to kind

1106
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:04,100
of use those.
Those quick plays to the to the

1107
01:09:04,100 --> 01:09:07,300
wide receivers, in the running
backs as de facto rushing plays,

1108
01:09:07,300 --> 01:09:09,500
because they can't really
generate anything between the

1109
01:09:09,500 --> 01:09:11,600
tackles unless they run their
quarterback.

1110
01:09:12,100 --> 01:09:15,800
That's something to look at.
All right, got you?

1111
01:09:16,700 --> 01:09:18,200
All right?
Another big one.

1112
01:09:18,399 --> 01:09:21,399
And it's kind of the story of
the year, right?

1113
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:26,600
Is we have Boy turnovers then
now we're going against the team

1114
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:30,300
that has forced 13 total
turnovers in seven games.

1115
01:09:30,300 --> 01:09:33,100
They're almost getting two
turnovers a game.

1116
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:36,899
And I'm sure you didn't want to
hear this for high-end, they

1117
01:09:36,899 --> 01:09:44,300
have 11 interceptions.
They do their top 15 in the

1118
01:09:44,300 --> 01:09:49,200
country, in that their top, 30
in the country, in forced

1119
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:53,899
turnovers.
If we don't Play a clean game.

1120
01:09:54,100 --> 01:09:56,400
You know, we're already kind of
behind the eight ball but

1121
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:58,100
knowing that they don't have the
explicit.

1122
01:09:58,100 --> 01:10:02,600
If it was leery, we could afford
zero, maybe we can afford one.

1123
01:10:02,700 --> 01:10:06,700
I want 0, because if we, if we
turn it over, we're given a

1124
01:10:06,700 --> 01:10:12,200
hamstrung offense more chances.
Absolutely.

1125
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:14,800
We this is a game where I think
I mean turnovers kind of goes

1126
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:17,300
both ways here.
I think we need to potentially

1127
01:10:17,300 --> 01:10:21,700
Force One to give our offense
and extra chance here maybe with

1128
01:10:21,700 --> 01:10:24,700
a short field and I think we
need to do a very good job of

1129
01:10:25,100 --> 01:10:29,200
protecting the football.
You know, they will, they will

1130
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:33,200
get an interception here and
there and most of that comes off

1131
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:37,200
of them, their ability to get
pressure with for enforce, those

1132
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:41,400
bad throws.
There's a saying if you have

1133
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:43,600
eight, guys, if you have seven
guys back in covered with, you

1134
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:45,400
have a cheer you're getting
penalized.

1135
01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:49,000
But if you have seven guys back
in coverage, able to make a play

1136
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:53,100
mean, that's another big thing.
And again, I'll talk about

1137
01:10:53,100 --> 01:10:54,800
turnovers defensively real quick
to.

1138
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:58,600
I mean, I mean, Brian, we're
literally the fourth worst team

1139
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:01,600
in the country.
If forcing turnovers, we have 5

1140
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:06,400
to the season and eventually you
say to yourself, can't, there be

1141
01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:09,700
a regression to the mean.
And by that, that means we would

1142
01:11:09,700 --> 01:11:13,700
get three on Thursday night and
we've been close a handful of

1143
01:11:13,700 --> 01:11:16,300
times, man.
So it's not, it's not just that,

1144
01:11:16,900 --> 01:11:19,800
you know, we're not there it's
that were there.

1145
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:22,300
And sometimes we don't do just
don't quite make the play.

1146
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:24,300
Yeah, so we got to get better at
that.

1147
01:11:24,300 --> 01:11:27,600
And and the last thing we'll
talk about, as far as it on the

1148
01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:30,900
table for it, he offensive
wrinkles.

1149
01:11:31,300 --> 01:11:34,300
I had before he gets deep into
it, I had something else I

1150
01:11:34,300 --> 01:11:38,500
wanted to discuss, we start
shooting it and you say I want

1151
01:11:38,500 --> 01:11:41,200
this.
So, All yours big man.

1152
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:43,600
Yeah we got to see some
offensive wrinkles.

1153
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:47,400
I like the scheme overall but
prize already talked about it

1154
01:11:48,300 --> 01:11:50,600
we're a little bit to Vidal and
what we're trying to do we are

1155
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:55,300
not doing a good job of just
going out there and Road grading

1156
01:11:55,700 --> 01:12:00,600
teams and then throwing
play-action off of that because

1157
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:02,900
we haven't been up to run
effectively are play action has

1158
01:12:02,900 --> 01:12:05,300
not been effective.
That means that our quick

1159
01:12:05,300 --> 01:12:09,300
passing game is also very
predictable because we're trying

1160
01:12:09,300 --> 01:12:12,600
to get those Those short, quick
passes to the tight end into the

1161
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:16,200
running back.
They work here and there but the

1162
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:18,800
defense start skiing on them,
they take that away and that's

1163
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:22,600
why we've seen some stagnant
drives happen in those second

1164
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:25,400
and third quarters.
Until we start mixing things up

1165
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:26,900
a little bit to close out the
game.

1166
01:12:27,900 --> 01:12:32,000
We got to get better at getting
some wrinkles in the offense,

1167
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:34,600
and we got to be better at
adjusting it halftime.

1168
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:37,300
So when they try to take some of
those things away, we're ready

1169
01:12:37,300 --> 01:12:39,800
with a good counter in the
second half.

1170
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:41,500
So We don't hit those roadblocks
that.

1171
01:12:41,500 --> 01:12:45,200
We've seen to start the second
half on offense, you know, I

1172
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:48,800
want to see some some more
creativity in the passing game.

1173
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:52,800
I'd like to see us.
Go to some quick passes that

1174
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:56,300
aren't those.
Kind of like quick quick screens

1175
01:12:56,300 --> 01:12:59,100
and quick outs to the tight ends
into the running backs.

1176
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:03,200
I want to see us mix-up and
maybe run some counters off of

1177
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:06,500
that or some Throwbacks or you
know something to kind of get

1178
01:13:06,500 --> 01:13:09,100
the defense moving One Direction
and attack than the other

1179
01:13:09,100 --> 01:13:11,400
direction.
Because right now we're not

1180
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:14,200
taking advantage of some of that
flow that we're getting to those

1181
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:16,300
bread-and-butter plays that
we've established.

1182
01:13:17,100 --> 01:13:18,700
Yeah.
And and again the bread and

1183
01:13:18,700 --> 01:13:22,400
butter isn't the best of it.
But I think two bronze point is

1184
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:25,300
if the bread-and-butter ain't
doing it, you start throwing the

1185
01:13:25,300 --> 01:13:30,400
wrinkles the eyes, the feet
start moving and so when you

1186
01:13:30,407 --> 01:13:34,500
throw those little wrinkles, you
do those unique things.

1187
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:38,500
It makes guys think and then
when you run a bread and butter

1188
01:13:38,500 --> 01:13:39,900
inside power or something,
right?

1189
01:13:40,700 --> 01:13:43,400
Well, if you're putting a little
window dressing again, something

1190
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:47,300
that to me, I we always saw as a
staple of the Wisconsin, offense

1191
01:13:47,300 --> 01:13:49,100
was like running a tight end
around.

1192
01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:53,500
I'll run a little sleep like
that, where it's then it goes

1193
01:13:53,500 --> 01:13:56,000
into the power, we don't see
things like that.

1194
01:13:56,100 --> 01:13:59,100
And those things are what makes
linebackers move and make it a

1195
01:13:59,100 --> 01:14:00,800
lot easier for the lining to get
up field.

1196
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:05,100
So it will be interesting and we
haven't seen a lot of wheels off

1197
01:14:05,100 --> 01:14:10,200
of those tight end, quick outs
and screens, not as many as I

1198
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:14,000
thought, we'd see where we can
kind of take advantage of them

1199
01:14:14,500 --> 01:14:17,500
and their aggressiveness jumping
that route, well, wouldn't it be

1200
01:14:17,500 --> 01:14:20,000
nice to see both Thomas and King
on the field?

1201
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:24,400
Same time where when you run a
wheel out of that because that

1202
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:28,100
linebackers going to stay home a
couple more tenths of a second,

1203
01:14:28,100 --> 01:14:30,600
right?
Because if you're showing up

1204
01:14:31,100 --> 01:14:34,600
again, I always just say, throw
a fake screen, fake, the draw

1205
01:14:35,100 --> 01:14:36,700
that line backers, not going to
move.

1206
01:14:37,500 --> 01:14:40,900
If the safeties are focused on
the, you do slip out the wheel,

1207
01:14:41,300 --> 01:14:44,700
and things like that.
So, yeah, well, you can also put

1208
01:14:44,700 --> 01:14:47,100
the running backs out there and
send one one way.

1209
01:14:47,100 --> 01:14:49,700
And one the other you get an
extra linebacker out of the box.

1210
01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:56,700
But let's just say this, at
least as a fan, our concerns are

1211
01:14:56,700 --> 01:15:00,100
being addressed vocally.
Yep.

1212
01:15:00,900 --> 01:15:07,300
Which is a complete turnaround
from the last few years because

1213
01:15:07,500 --> 01:15:09,900
we don't need to be vanilla.
We need to play the best

1214
01:15:09,900 --> 01:15:11,600
players.
We need to do this, and I know

1215
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:13,600
some people will say, well,
that's just words.

1216
01:15:14,300 --> 01:15:18,700
Well, would you rather have no
action, no words?

1217
01:15:18,700 --> 01:15:20,100
Or would you rather, at least
have word?

1218
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:22,700
Because what it tells you is, if
somebody keep screwing up,

1219
01:15:22,700 --> 01:15:24,200
somebody might get their asses
fired.

1220
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:28,100
Yeah, we know that are we at
least know at this point that

1221
01:15:28,100 --> 01:15:30,900
our head coach sees it and is
knowledge it.

1222
01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:35,000
Now whether he does something
about it, that's to be seen but

1223
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:40,900
we're at least getting the right
message of.

1224
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:43,600
Hey, I see this.
I hear you.

1225
01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:49,100
We're trying to address that and
then let the chips fall where

1226
01:15:49,100 --> 01:15:52,400
they may, and hopefully we see
some chip start falling in the

1227
01:15:52,407 --> 01:15:54,700
right direction here.
This weekend, or this.

1228
01:15:55,100 --> 01:15:56,700
Let's hope so.
Well let's go to those

1229
01:15:56,700 --> 01:16:01,300
predictions Brian.
And you know it's even with

1230
01:16:01,300 --> 01:16:05,600
without if Devin lyrics here I
have the scores a lot uglier to

1231
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:11,400
me but I still just can't do it.
I think n CA C NC state has a

1232
01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:15,700
home field advantage.
Their defense is significantly

1233
01:16:15,700 --> 01:16:18,400
better than our offense.
Although our defense is better

1234
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:21,000
than their offense without
Leary.

1235
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:24,900
I think this is low scoring, I'm
still trying to figure You're

1236
01:16:24,900 --> 01:16:29,500
out how the over unders 40, it
was 42 and 43 earlier in the

1237
01:16:29,500 --> 01:16:32,500
week.
I don't get that but I think NC

1238
01:16:32,500 --> 01:16:35,900
State does pull one off like a
17-10 win.

1239
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:39,700
Yeah, I'm kind of in that same
ballpark.

1240
01:16:40,900 --> 01:16:43,200
Yeah.
I think their defense is just a

1241
01:16:43,208 --> 01:16:44,900
little bit better than our
defense.

1242
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:49,100
I think it's ugly game.
I think we're both not great

1243
01:16:49,100 --> 01:16:53,100
offensively.
I think it's a 16-13 NC State

1244
01:16:53,100 --> 01:16:56,900
victory.
Alrighty.

1245
01:16:57,700 --> 01:17:01,600
Well Brian big screeners last
week was good to both of us.

1246
01:17:01,700 --> 01:17:08,100
We both hit our games, your Okie
State, taking the home, dog,

1247
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:10,000
with the points.
They ended up winning out,

1248
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:12,700
right?
And then thanks to a late sort

1249
01:17:12,700 --> 01:17:16,600
of nothing touched down or
again, UCLA goes over at the

1250
01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:21,600
office and zoo and this weekend,
Brian, where are you?

1251
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:27,100
Taking us on your big screen I'm
going to the bourbon brawl

1252
01:17:28,100 --> 01:17:31,400
Tennessee, Little Tennessee.
Whiskey against some Kentucky

1253
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:39,100
bourbon.
In that one, the over is over

1254
01:17:39,100 --> 01:17:41,300
under 63.
I'm actually going to take the

1255
01:17:41,300 --> 01:17:46,900
over there.
The spread is 13.

1256
01:17:47,100 --> 01:17:49,800
Tennessee is a 13-point home
favorite.

1257
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:53,500
I think that's just a little
little too much for me.

1258
01:17:54,500 --> 01:17:57,000
I think Tennessee, definitely
wins this, but I think it's more

1259
01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:59,300
in that kind of the ten eleven
point range.

1260
01:17:59,700 --> 01:18:02,800
So, givi Kentucky, and the 13.
And I'm going to take that over

1261
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:06,700
at 63 all.
So Brian Kentucky, tonight's a

1262
01:18:06,708 --> 01:18:10,100
night game right after 7:00
7:00.

1263
01:18:10,100 --> 01:18:11,200
Yep.
So in o'clock.

1264
01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:15,000
Alright, well for me, I looked
around and I tried, there's some

1265
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:18,100
rank matchups that are later.
Obviously it's a big one at noon

1266
01:18:18,100 --> 01:18:20,900
with Ohio State and Penn State.
I'm not going to be here for

1267
01:18:20,900 --> 01:18:25,900
that and then lo and behold, I
find number one team in the

1268
01:18:25,900 --> 01:18:34,300
country is playing Florida and
of our age group.

1269
01:18:34,500 --> 01:18:38,200
This is the world's largest
outdoor cocktail party.

1270
01:18:38,500 --> 01:18:41,100
I've had some colleagues at
work, go to this game.

1271
01:18:41,300 --> 01:18:43,600
I've had some fraternity,
Brothers, go this game.

1272
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:48,300
A, it's one of those if you want
to go to a party weekend,

1273
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:51,800
whether you like either team or
not go to it because apparently

1274
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:54,600
down in, Duval, that is one wild
ass weekend.

1275
01:18:56,300 --> 01:19:03,000
Currently we've got George at 23
and a half in an over-under of

1276
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:07,400
56 and a half.
I'm not touching 23 and a half

1277
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:11,400
even though Georgia is superior.
This is one of those get up

1278
01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:14,900
games, right?
Yep, this is a rivalry.

1279
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:17,800
They don't like each.
Other has two stadiums read half

1280
01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:24,800
the Stadium's Orange. and I sit
here that under 56 is intriguing

1281
01:19:25,500 --> 01:19:29,300
because I think that's where I
got it.

1282
01:19:29,300 --> 01:19:31,700
I got to go under.
I think Georgia wins.

1283
01:19:32,700 --> 01:19:36,800
I don't could I see them winning
by 30 could I see them winning

1284
01:19:36,800 --> 01:19:38,800
something?
Like 3810.

1285
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:42,000
Yeah.
Could I see it being something

1286
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:45,100
like 28?
You know?

1287
01:19:45,100 --> 01:19:46,500
2810.
Yeah.

1288
01:19:47,700 --> 01:19:51,700
Because that Georgia offense has
been this up and down and they

1289
01:19:51,700 --> 01:19:56,500
are playing a significantly
better team this week so or

1290
01:19:56,500 --> 01:19:59,500
player wise Napier's getting
their schematically but player

1291
01:19:59,500 --> 01:20:02,500
wise is probably the best team
they've seen in a while.

1292
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:06,300
So I'll take the under that game
and just reminisce and, you

1293
01:20:06,300 --> 01:20:09,300
know, we're getting loaded this
weekend between the bourbon

1294
01:20:09,300 --> 01:20:13,200
brawl and the cocktail Already
we might stumble in here on

1295
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:15,500
Saturday night.
I like that.

1296
01:20:15,700 --> 01:20:20,500
I like that, right?
Anything breaking the last hour

1297
01:20:20,500 --> 01:20:23,500
and 20 minutes here.
I'm not seeing anything, buddy.

1298
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:26,300
All right.
Well that is going to wrap up

1299
01:20:26,300 --> 01:20:30,500
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