Know the Enemy: NC State

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1:36 Feeling a lot better this week. Has everything been on your side of town this week, man. It's been a, it's been a busy week so far, man. We've got a couple projects. I've been working on couple, couple fun things around the house. Couple big things at work, so, it's been one of them weeks. I know. It's been me. I'm like that for you, too. Oh, yeah, I mean, it's fall. It's between sports work. Being absolutely crazy this month, which is what it is. I get a little Free in November, which November? And December even though I'm still working on some additional projects that were not as much as my time being focused having to do a bunch of stuff because the culmination is not till January cosine of that slow build, where this month is, like, here's everything go, do it, and then, okay, and you're going to get sick and then some fans don't get sick.

2:32 So you're going to be feeling it. But it's All better. Now looking forward to a fun week of college football including we go that when NC State on Thursday night at 7:30 we're definitely talking about Know The Enemy this week, but we're going to kick it off here tonight is something that it's already been Rumblings because obviously we're seeing players under the transfer portal. And so me and Fran, couple weeks ago, kicked around well, how many do we need? And where do they need to be? So, we're going to look into that first. And then, we're going to do the normal stuff we do on Thursday night. So Brian, let's talk about it.

3:15 Obviously, we did not have a bigger transfer portal. This year only took in about six players, only about nine left the as compared to someone like Duke who took in 13 Brown will send you on Robbie you took in the team kicked out about 19 so everybody's saying, look at do. Dishes are doing great. Elco came in and started booting guys and bringing a lot of people immediately and Is it something probably could have did probably but now we're at the point he at least has had the time to evaluate this roster and full and you know I think it's time we look into the portal next year.

3:57 What I mean I know you feel the same way Brian. Yeah I think from a it almost seems like from from the perspective that prior had he was taking a little bit more of a conservative approach to year one, evaluating what we have and then making some moves after that whereas Elko and Duke Devlin took the more aggressive Approach and it's paid off for him. They've had some success early in this year. So, I mean, kudos to him up for being aggressive getting 13 in the portal, cutting some, some little more dead weight on the back end there. So me a good overall flip for him. And to be honest, you know, you said 13, I'm thinking 11:50 baby. Even 1314 would be the number that we're looking at, shoot it for this offseason in terms of additions. We need to be aggressive this offseason in filling some of the holes.

4:49 We have looking at at where we can get better looking at where we can add depth and kind of filling this roster out that was left decimated. The last two to three years of the Fuente era as true. And that's, and that's really where it is. And we're seeing as the season has progressed. We're seeing where the holes are. But we're also seeing again, you talk about the conservative approach, but we're also seeing where we're developing right? You know, you're seeing a Daquan, right? And they willing Loft and I know a lot of people were feeling like Lofton was going to be a 1,000-yard receiver but still from a guy who only had seven catches last year he's stepping up. Hey Kwon, right? Stepping up.

5:31 So I get the approach because again if this is a five to six year thing which a lot of people Will our go like to hear that. But in reality, you know, if you're building it the right way, it is going to take longer. But it's a lot easier to fill holes. Right? Because you know like right now man's my back in. I don't think you know if we take something in the back end it's going to be more depth than anything. It's going to be death, mate, media starting safety or rotational caliber safety, but I think in terms of the young death combined, with what we're bringing in, in the the Current class. We're kind of set at the quarterback position. Yeah, seeing what we got with d'Alene seen what we've got with Cam Johnson already, get a healthy Dorian, strong Coming Back, DJ Harvey.

6:21 You know, that that's for right there that we're seeing some heavy playing time and that are have shown the capability to be at that type of player for this team. So you already got four and that's before you start adding in some younger guys and some of the development on the backend of guys that are already on the roster. All right. So let's start. We said our ballpark numbers 10 to 12. We're going to look at 12:00 tonight. Brian is saying, we can go up to 15 and you know you guys be liberal or conservative as you want as you fill in the spots. But let's look on offense because obviously that's where we're feeling the higher number. We're saying of our 12 we're saying seven on offense now even though there has been some steps taken in the wide receiver room, Prime being you kind of came to the conclusion, we have to have it at least two from the portal to help with depth and we really need.

7:14 And I know Caleb Smith is eligible next year the covid year because the way it all works out, he has one more year of Eligibility, but if he decides to leave and even if he doesn't decide to leave one of those two has to be a starter has to be. Absolutely. Absolutely one has to be a starter and to his kind of the minimum. That's definitely Up and off point. I feel like we could be really aggressive here because I think bringing in bodies you're going to get a decent amount of run in the in Spring, you're going to get a decent amount of Run next year. You'll at least see what you got. Everybody's going to get a shot, if you're bringing in three, especially if Caleb Smith in ends up moving on.

7:58 So, I would be very aggressive at that position this offseason in terms of the transfer portal. But what would you be looking for? Like to me, I look at Dwayne Lofton and he's a slot obviously. Jaden Blues gone after this year, you know? Is it a? Why is that what we in starting? Is it a why? I mean, I think the big thing is you're going to look To get a playmaker guy that can be a true one. So, yeah, I think you're looking more for like an X Caliber receiver and then you let Caleb Smith kind of be that number two, if he returns and if not, you love for a guy like Jalen Jones, their Christian Moss to kind of step into that role next year.

8:44 All right? So there's that. Why? That we're looking to maybe three there. Now, the next one, obviously, Brian. This is the one where you feel like we have to go attack already. And that's offensive line Brian. We we kind of came to the conclusion, three offensive lineman regardless to starting caliber and just so happens just to couple weeks ago, a guy who had started at numerous positions. For Wisconsin entered the portal, he was a big-time recruit coming out for Wisconsin, when they came and he's played, was it left guard, right Garden, right?

9:24 Tackle. And, you know, obviously, like the writing's on the wall, right? He comes in. He I don't know what happened this year. I don't follow us constant close enough, but clearly four games in, he's He's leaving something happened, something went down something, but I don't from the sounds of it, it's not something that would be a deal. Breaking situation with another team or I we would have heard I think a lot more about it at this point. That's just my opinion. Now, where are you primarily? Looking obviously with not seen Xavier.

10:04 Chaplain this year, is someone like the guy from Wisconsin. I mean, is it going to be left tackle, right, tackle Center. We needed, we need at least one tackle and we need at least a center in my opinion. If we end up getting probably, I'd like to get a swing guy. So if we look at the you know the kitchen Constant, that will be a great guard, guard tackle, combo, you wherever you need to feed Min fit him in. Get a true tackle and then whether it's Frontline or depth and then you get a potential starting caliber Center that can push with looks like Jack hollifield for that starting job next year, you know, I haven't seen enough of him outside of the spring game to really Determine whether that's something that I'm comfortable with as far as a starting.

11:02 So I definitely want to try to get a center in the portal as we try to build this line back up and backfill with some of these recruits. Yeah. And that's the piece it's finding starting caliber offensive lineman it's not just fine lime there's gonna be plenty of offensive lineman in the portal. I don't even do that but finding someone to actually be able to play. And that's where, you know, you hate to say it, it's guys, coming off injuries. It's potentially a younger guy who has Shone out and is looking for that starting job, right? Like, and I hate to say it, someone like, you know, I hope it doesn't happen to us.

11:43 It's someone like Braylon more who we've seen on tape, he can play it, a D1 level. And you have somebody like that that is I'm not going to say enamored but doesn't see that his offensive line coach has put a lot of guys in the NFL and cooked up a lot of guys. yeah, that's that's kind of the big thing, you know, we're We got we got a lot, a lot of holes to fill that that unit right now it's true. A lot of holes and it's a lot of holes in its we were talking just for we came on here. You know talking about Wells talking about kind of the offense in general, but if the offensive line play like the way we saw, it was the way I've seen it in Bryon, you come back to me Silas.

12:38 Nick Moore and Johnny have played about average maybe Johnny slightly above average. Hansen ceiling isn't that high? So his average is never going to be that. So when he has those bad moments, it's not going to. It's going to go from like, right here, where a lot of guys are out here for way down here and the real one that I think no one can figure out. And maybe Brian, you can call up Robbie. Maybe you can call your, you can call komlin up. Y'all can just sit and analyze Parker Clements because if you told me, Parker took a slight step back this year. You be like we get it. You coach you skiing, it's okay. He's taking a massive step back like he's almost a true freshman again.

13:27 And from a guy that I think we all expected to be playing to really benefit from a new offensive line coach. Yeah, and the thing that's most disappointing is is past Pro which should translate more or less from scheme to scheme. You know, it's one thing if you you know are changing the emphasis from a primarily Zone, A scheme to a primarily Gap, based scheme and struggle in the running game. It's a completely different thing to, you know, shit the bed in past Pro when you grade it out relatively. Well, In I'd say significant time life.

14:07 So he wasn't obviously a full-time starter, but he played significant snaps last year and graded out pretty well. And it wasn't just against the scrubs or, you know, when we were getting blown out and when we were blowing anybody out, which we didn't do a whole lot of that last year. Obviously. But you know he played significant snaps against pretty solid competition last year. There's no reason that especially in pass Pro that he we should see this significant of a drop-off in his So I'm not sure exactly what's going on there. Whether he's in his head or just you know a little bit more pressure is kind of put him in a spot where he's not performing as well. I'm not sure but it definitely has not been a good season for him so far.

14:53 Definitely not the season. He wanted definitely not season. We kind of were thinking we were going to get from him not at all. All right? Obviously the next one through seven games this year It's quarterback. And, you know, we said our stuff, it's got to be a guy who can start in, even though we've seen Grant Wells have really good moments. It's been some bad ones too. And it's been some inconsistent and they far outweigh the good moments we've seen. Now, Brian, let me ask your opinion of this. Could you potentially take this off the table of over the next five games? He elevates his play, or you still You want a competition in the spring?

15:39 I want somebody to push him, okay? Because I think we're at a point where we, we know that the, the floor, you know, where the floor is for. We're not sure, we're not sure where the ceiling is. And I think if we can get mostly kind of that upper middle of his play, okay? And we put and we put some more Talent around him. We might be able to do a little bit of the things we want to do, okay? So but I still want to see if he can get Whether that helps him or that helps his growth where whether he gets better as a result of that. And we see a higher level of play with him in the offseason heading into next year.

16:28 Or whether, you know, somebody we find in the portal can come in here and take that job and run with it. And we, you know, we're in a, you know, Jerrod Evan situation where, you know, we're one quarterback away from putting some other pieces together, not saying we're going to go on. around and went and games or anything like that, but more saying A play elevating quarterback, which I don't think right now. Wells is the guy that can Elevate the play of those around him. He kind of, he is what he is. He's got a great arm in terms of velocity and being able to get drive it down the field. But there's there's things in there where it he doesn't make the people around him necessarily better.

17:12 So we're going to have to improve around him and we can potentially, you know, upgrade that position in the process. Where are they? I now with that being said, though, Hypothetically. Well though you hypothetical out here? By some miracle of God, the Hokies go 5 and 0 to 4 and 1/2, close out the season. In his play, you know, minimal picks under three picks over 10 touchdowns. And when you look at the game, it's better. Do you still do it?

17:53 Or is that when you say because of what? We've seen from 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, You know what, he showed enough in these last five games. We've got to stick with the next year, if we're going to go portal shopping for quarterback, it's got to be a young developmental guy who can compete with Devon and Taj in might have the tools to unseat Grant or in a year. That's a good question. That's a good giving you a big-ass hypothetical. Yeah. Because I mean I don't know if like scraping into a bowl game is Enough to save that job. Well, that's why I said for and 15. And oh yeah, that's some sad but we're still kind of, you know, back ending a bowl here.

18:47 I don't know because I've seen enough inconsistent play that it would have to be very solid consistent. For the remainder and I'd have to see again, I'm talking about elevator play. Look, I'd like, I need to see him. Elevating the play of others. In those games, you want to hear the names, Christian Moss, Jalen Jones and daewon Lofton having big games with him at the helm. And I like that. We're using his legs more, and he's shown the ability there. I want to see that continue, along with the passing game, taking some steps forward and hopefully that opening up a little bit more in the Run game. Once were Working with loaded boxes all the time and awesome.

19:29 All right, one more on the offensive side of the ball and we might need to duck Braun when we say this after after empty in the room last chick. But let's be honest, we probably are going to be in need of some sort of rotational depth, running back. Obviously, I think right now we've heard pry kept talking King in Malachi are the 12? King has eligibility next year, clearly Malachi has eligibility. We seen flashes of chance, black, and Bryce Duke Palin. Holsten's graduated, there's a few guys, still on the roster. I think basically what you're saying is, you want some sort of back to compete with price and chance and push them if not beat them out? Yeah, I'd like to see somebody pushing for the third rotation in the running back room.

20:25 I think we potentially could have had that this year if we had held onto Ramon Brown. So I'm thinking that that type of caliber player. Why good deal? So there's seven will rethink on the portal right now. Roughly Midway through the season is when we kind of came up with this, but when you had the episode like last week we had to put this off a week. All right defensively. I don't think anybody's going to be a shock on the first one, is its defensive line and it's they've got to be to deeps. Right here, at least two of them and that's especially doubly true. If if we if we don't get Pollard and Kendricks back next year, which I think they might be back and it is the interior. I mean garments likely gone this year, the field area, Spain thing.

21:26 All going to depend on what happens with the NCAA. Let's not hold our breath to are. Definitely don't hold your Don't hold your breath on that and then with McRae and Nelson. But the is it strictly inside for you? Because if garbage gone to me, you need at least one and I'd say, one almost starting caliber defensive in and at least a rotational piece on the defensive line. Yeah. Now I do think with the edge though. I think the way this defense is look this year and kind of for the inside to I think it's an easier sell if you have someone who's putting out good tape, but buried somewhere, You got to start making the phone calls and I'm sure the phone calls are already being made players already, but when garbett goes because garbett is out of Eligibility, right?

22:19 Yeah. I'm pretty sure you don't want to effort that in a second here. I think so. But you know the again the line play has not been a big step back this year at all, but we mentioned in that. What if Episode if Bono comes back, Harvey had Williams. It would help everybody out a little bit but develop. So we've got a quickly restock that regardless what happened. Now, we could get lucky and Pollard and Kendricks. Both come back and we go out and find a couple good pieces in the portal. That's going to be an interesting room. Next now you've already said this and kind of gave Away. You said kind of second priority was the safety and it's got to be at least somebody who can step into a backup role because, obviously losing tamari this year, you lose your leader back there.

23:11 Yes, strengthening people's have played great, but now it kind of gets scary who's behind them. Yeah, I think that's the big thing we've seen. I think we at least need somebody that's either potential starting caliber, or at least a rotational player back there to kind of stir things up. And I think it'll help with the development of some of the younger players because we don't have to necessarily throw them out there. They don't have to be chimoree Connor, next year, you know, they can still work into that role of another year if they can get, you know, lean on whether it's a Veteran that has one or two years of Eligibility left or whether it's a, you know, a sophomore that pop that can kind of come in and they can kind of tag team it.

24:00 Abso-freakin'-lutely their Brawn. And what I really find interesting about that room is it's like, you're you feel so good about who's played back there right now, right? You feel good about it but you know what? That position. That's the position. You get a stinger in your outfit, three games. Yeah, that's the targeting thing and I and when And you know, that's where you worry about that position because, you know, you have to be aggressive even in this scheme, it's even more. So you have to be aggressive. Now, the next piece I think, is one that's going to probably turn to me ears. And that's the linebacker room.

24:45 I'm still feel good about the linebacker room but I think what we've seen in the last really month is Keller. Lawson a few of the other guys they can play but they're not quite ready. To be the full-time starter shit. Now next all maybe maybe going through a string being with the ones. Yeah but I think with that Brian you're looking for somebody who's probably played significant snaps elsewhere. Yeah I think that's what we would want to look at their particularly at Mike just because I don't think we really know what that position is going to look like. Is that going to be will Johnson next year? Is that going to be Jaden Keller next year?

25:27 What's Mike gonna look like rolling into 2023? We've kind of been you know we leaned on Dax here the last two years, known quantity, we know what we're getting from him. You know we're kind of going into an area where we don't know what that mic Position will give us and we're still kind of unsettled it will write. I mean, Tisdale played pretty well and The game back. You know we still have some question marks though with that position in terms of depth In terms of who's going to be the guy that stepped up, is that going to be Keller's role. See going to slide over to Mike.

26:11 Is that going to be McDonald's role? Is it looks like lost in the has settled back into Sam, which I think is a better fit for his skill set. Either primarily being in coverage, or attacking the line of scrimmage and not so much having to kind of read and and focus a lot more on technique there. So I think that's a better. Fit for him. So you know, the question is going to be who kind of emerges there as well. So we got some options there. We got some guys, we've seen a lot of snaps between last year and this year, but we don't really feel settled at either the the mic or the wheel position kind of heading into next year. So I'd like to see somebody at least come in that could potentially start at one of those spots. That would be the ideal situation and so for And lutely. Alright, last one on the defensive side of the ball and I know, Brian, you went through and you talked about Mansoor and cam we mentioned, DJ Harvey the corner. Back room, future looks bright.

27:18 But, you know, with Dorian strong as well. But once Armani goes in, obviously those guys are gonna be stepping up. You're really gonna be only three deep at the outside. We know they'll try Harvey out there so that kind of we landed on. Need to find at least one outside corner right here. And it doesn't, it doesn't have to be a front front line player. You know, that right now we're looking at strong and Delaney, kind of being the one to heading into next year, with Cam and DJ working in their need, to get a fifth in there to get some extra rotation, some flexibility on the outside. In case you get a guy that goes down like we've seen with with strong this year. You know, you got to kind of have at least, you know, three guys maybe for that.

28:04 That can, that can line up outside consistently and at least have one or two guys that can play the nickel. Absolutely. So again, it's one of those positions where you feel great about that in safety with the future. But we're not deaf wise there yet. If this was two years from now and those guys were seniors, I think we'd probably feel good because by that time we went through some Cycles, we have more guys in so. But right now looking ahead. It's just the The Depths just not there yet and it's again it's why we're saying 15 plus in the portal Here or you know 12 plus in the ball this year she's using? Yeah. All right, but I mean we got some help coming you know? Yeah class that we have.

28:49 Well there's a there's some pretty decent number of secondary pieces so you know maybe your answers there maybe we don't have to quite go fishing as much of there's a couple guys that you think are going to be you know as a true freshman ready to go especially guys that enroll early but I'd still keep my eyes peeled for those pieces. Lutely Brawn. All right, so let's go over. Take a look at some news and college football notes. And I think for this weekend, really, really cool what's going on College GameDay as they go. Visit Jackson State versus Southern. I love it for the HBCU Community. To get that game. They have done this in the past. I know they've done a couple where it's been like the Showcase games like in Atlanta, but this is actually, you know, at Jackson State on Campus all campus, you know down in Jackson Mississippi obviously Dion's a draw. Don't don't don't get it wrong.

29:49 But it's kind of cool. Reading some back story in the history of this game and they call it the Boombox classic. And I was like wow that's interesting. Why they call it the Boombox classic? Will you start reading into it? The name of the bands and obviously HBCU culture with the band's, it's unbelievable. If you don't watch, it's every what is it the first Saturday of bowl season? The twelve o'clock game is always that classic. Yeah. And they always devote. You get a little bit the halftime show, but they always devote showing you the ban on the field, which is usually amazing. But the reason it's called the Boombox game is because Jackson State's bands is called the sonic, boom of the South but the southern band is called the human jukebox.

30:35 Thus the Boombox classic going to be really interested to see if they bring di'anno set. Because obviously now with the struggles might norville's have it at that shoe. Lana with Georgia Tech opening up potentially. Some other schools opening up, his name is going to be on fire. Yep. His name is definitely going to be out there and, you know he's earned it. I mean, he went there, he's attracted some big names and he's got them playing some really damn good football. You know, it's not it's not just hey I brought in, you know, a handful of big names and We're doing I know they're out there making some noise, they really are so he's not just out there.

31:25 I'm a name attached to this, this position, you know, he's actually out there, you know, coaching those guys up pretty well and good to see. And it's, you know, it's going to be interesting to see where and it's going to be interesting to see that scene Saturday morning when they go live down at Jackson State on game day. All right, Brian. Somebody got fired again this week and it's not from a big program. It is from a significantly smaller program and it's will he lie down. It UNC Charlotte started the season one and seven. Not the greatest record down there.

32:06 I know it's a program building, but you know, there were Whispers And little notes that hand. They like him a lot. How you feeling that? That you know what's happened? What happened? I feel like we dodged a bullet because we will heal, he's name got thrown out there for a lot of jobs. This offseason and Virginia Tech was one of them and we were very not high on on, will he lie? He was, he was pretty low on our list there. I don't think he made the list. Only think he made the Dark Horse and if he did Go back and look what I do. Not remember talking about, will he lie in our tops? Yeah, I don't think we did.

32:54 If we did, we it was just kind of like a very low low ranking there. So, yeah, we dodged a bullet and so did a bunch of other folks and you know we see this a lot, right? You know, you get a young coach, he comes in there, they play inspired for a season or two and then all of a sudden the wheels fall off a little bit. We saw it with when take in Blacksburg and we're you know, we're seeing kind of Similar results there in UNC Charlotte. So they were, they were kind of the, one of those Underdog, you know? Look at, look at how they're fighting type teams last year and now that, you know, they're completely in the, in the mud this year.

33:39 So, Again I think a lot of a lot of high that's all I'd say low to mid power five teams, dodged a bullet on will Healey they're absolutely freaking lutely. All right. So Bryan we actually got a commit pick up in football and wrestling back on October 22nd Jenny, Mullen who is. By all mean goes to st. Joseph Regional plays defensive end for the football team. Is a legitimate legitimate heavyweight wrestler. Yep.

34:23 Commits basically if you see the Tweet, it's basically saying dual sport athlete committing for 2023 for football and wrestling. I don't know if you had a chance to see any of this tape, Ronnie plays defensive end, he's 63, he's about 225 pounds, getting up to 250 when you're assholes. Can he legitimately do this? Because I mean these Seasons overlap a little bit. That's a great question, man. That's a great question. If the idea is that he's going to be, you know, more or less a Guy that we're looking at on the scout team, he's got to looking at for like really deep death on the on the Travel team than yes sure.

35:16 It's going to be hard with how much the seasons do overlap and him being very much. A wrestler. First 24. See him, playing a significant role on the football squad but it's definitely something to keep an eye on. Yeah, it is and, you know, a little bit of his tape is up there and the video I'm watching. Jim, I love it. He was playing basically knows kind of shoots the Gap, they're running. Outside swing pass. And he actually got to the running back about 20 yards down field in got enough of a hand on them to force them out of bounds. So obviously, you know, leverage technique stuff like that. When you have a rest or out there you can tell some guys who rents combination of size and speed As usually what you're looking at man that's usually what you're looking at. So probably upside is he probably won't count towards any football scholarship.

36:17 If he's coming here wrestling and seeing his credentials wrestling or David Cunningham wrote some good stuff on him but you see those credentials it's kind of like yeah, he's definitely a potential world-class wrestler. Yeah. All right, Ryan before we get into our main topic of Know The Enemy NC State. We are going to take a quick pause for a message. Our digital partners. Because we take a quick break. We like to tell you about getting your free website report from our digital partner, Grassroots, digital marketing Studio. They'll tell you how your website ranks on Google on-site, SEO and social media. No commitment to buy anything. You can get your free report by visiting. Grassroots digital studio.com forward slash free Dash website, Dash report.

37:01 Now back to the episode All right Brian. So let's kick it off here. No the enemy NC State. Let's start with the offense because obviously the biggest story on the offensive side of the ball is just a few weeks ago. Devin Leary starting quarterback preseason. ACC Player of the Year tears a spec tries to go through some rehab and eventually just comes up and says I'm done for the year. So it really has altered the NC State offense significantly. Yeah, that's going to be the big thing to watch is how they adjust around the new quarterback, Jack Chambers and let me let's go ahead and start there.

37:44 You know, Jack Chambers, he's throwing game is still a work in progress. They in the game against Syracuse. He had a lot of kind of quick read, one read Concepts. There wasn't a whole lot of reading the defense. It was very much. Get the ball out of your hands. Quick, is this guy open. Okay, take off and run and that's where his asset. He's really an asset for the team is great athleticism. A lot of design runs that were put in place for him. QB Powers, QB draws some sweeps, had a lot of success in the short stuff, in terms of throwing the ball, but really great when he Had to improvise. So when that first read wasn't there, he was kind of going to scramble mode, but he would occasionally get himself into trouble in that.

38:39 So, he had somewhere. He curfew got the first down, but he had somewhere. He tried to bail too quick and got dropped for a sec, because he put himself in a bad spot there. Yeah, and he really hasn't established me chemistry or timing in the zone read game either. So we saw mesh Point some problems there. Some bad decisions at the mesh point. So that's something else that we could probably take advantage of. And we're not looking at a guy that's going to press the ball. Downfield, consistently as though he will take a few shots here and there to kind of keep the defense honest. Yep. And with Chambers, I mean, he's not a big guy tall, 510 180, he, you know, originally coming out of high school, he committed to Charleston, Southern and he was a starter there for three years. So when n c-- State brought a minute, Lisa was a guy. They knew had played at the FCS level. We're being down there for three seasons as a starter. You know, he threw thirty eight touchdowns, he had 27 picks but you know, he also rushed for 14 touchdowns over 1,000 yards in the three seasons as a starter.

39:50 You know, best season. Passing wise was 2020, he was a 63%, the other two seasons under 60% and his high Seasons 2,500 yards. So, Contain, it's like that right contain contain contain because he's not going to kill you with his arm but obviously they're running attack. Brian. You know with him being there now versus Leary it does open that up a little bit more and let's talk about a couple of those running backs. Let's talk about Jordan Houston. The sty foot 10 192 pound running back. In Jordan out of Oakton.

40:34 Virginia went to private Flint, Hills High School up in Northern Virginia, a composite 3 star out of Virginia. He was a top, 20 Virginia player. Back in 2019 it did say the Hokies did report an offer. I don't know how much that is. It's always when you see an offer, it's an offer, but what a 19? I mean, that was, you know, that was one of the only willing, I think to in that class, not three the next year for the next year, whatever the fuck, what the hell is when we were just jacking things up and you know, so far this year, you know, as the primary starter, you know, 300 yards on the ground Aven?

41:17 Right at for Carrie, no touchdowns on the ground. But obviously Brian, I'm sure in that tape on you saw a little bit of that passing game because he does, he isn't it, has that element there and he's had that element since he stepped on campus and point? Yeah, I mean he's kind of a one cut and go back in terms of the running game, he's got a pretty good Vision between the tackles, but he's not really that home run threat in the Run game and he's not pushing the pile or anything like that. He's not that like Dynamic short yardage back but where he makes his hey is in the passing game in all areas and he's dangerous in the open field in the passing game. So that's one thing that we're going to keep bottled up. Is that they're going to get him the ball quickly in space. Especially with Chambers out there. So I got to be able to get him down to the ground pretty quick. Well it's interesting to see here because I mean, the passing game stats, I mean it backs up what you say there. I mean he's averaging 12 a catch but he only has one total touchdown all around.

42:19 And you know, I'm wondering without the threat of leary there. When you looked at Syracuse, where they still trying to get him out, With the rivet with the passing game, they were getting them out, not quite as much, but I think they were definitely still trying to get him out as consistently as they could. He was definitely very, I won't say heavily used but they definitely kept him as a big part of their game plan, right? But obviously, you take Leary out. It it doesn't worry as much, right? It doesn't worry as much as I, okay, you're going to take your best running back in.

43:02 Yes, he is. Good pass catcher, and you're going to take him away from putting the ball in his hands immediately. I take that all day knowing ya hangers and obviously, is completion percentage and everything like that. Yeah, what they're not doing a lot of is like going empty and like lining him up as a true wide out and letting him kind of operate out there. They didn't do that very much against Syracuse with which they did. Do that a lot more. When Leary was in there. Yeah. Now they do have a second running back Brian. And that's I know I'm going to butcher this, so if you got the pronunciation guide somewhere, bring it up for me and that's to be Su Mo Cong Cong Bay six foot 210-pound from willing Borough New Jersey running back. I got you you got it you pulling it up here D me Sue my carne Bay a car May okay interesting interesting. Well anyway class of 2020 one composite 86 3, star with 24/7, top 25 players in New Jersey, another good State, you can top 25 players from usually, there's a chance, they can turn out to be something.

44:16 I know he did not play against Syracuse, so it will be interesting to see if he goes against the Hokies. But you know, in his redshirt freshman year, solid numbers across the board, you know, 5.8 of Carry Three touchdowns. They're using a little bit in the passing game. I'm with about 12 receptions, what's the tape showing as him compared to Houston? Yeah. He's a little bit more of their, their kind of perimeter running back the guy that they use to kind of attack the perimeter of the running game. He also does a really great job of like cutting back on those Zone plays especially inside Zone. A lot of times when he cuts back across the defense that creates a big crease, he can get up in there and make some some big runs that way, it's also a good lead Blocker in the in the past Pro and quarterback lead game.

45:05 So if he's back in this game that might be a little bit more effective than we saw against Syracuse. And he is also used in the passing game, but those are more like check downs and screens versus the dynamic threat that we get from from Houston. Interesting. Interesting there on. Who worries you more? Houston. Just because of what he can do in both areas, the run in the past. I'm not so much worried about what with Demi can do in the passing game. He's more of a just a check down guy. If we can keep him bottled up between the tackles, I think we're good to go there.

45:47 I'm using, is the guy that can can bother me there? All right, let's hope they continue to save him Robbie. Michael Allen. I'd have to go back and look on the board because I don't, you know, I don't see him registered in the stats here and obviously, burnt Ryan, I'm assuming looking at the tape, he didn't jump there if he played any. So let's hope they keep him bottled up for the rest of the. Yeah, we don't even see him this week. Yeah, we don't, we don't there's four games for them after that. Look, if they're going to work your man, let's hope they saving for those last four. Exactly. All right, let's take a look at one of the wide receivers and that's key on the Seine, Six asumi, 511, 190 pounds from Lumberton, North Carolina and seeing the First full game that Chambers played of the receivers.

46:33 He did get good amount of targets with four receptions and 39 yards from in the longest 16 Season wide. Just 20 receptions. He did have quite a few against Clemson just six or 37 but obviously he was part of that game. So yeah. And he's a guy that he's got good hands. He's like kind of a shitty Target but he's more of a stick mover than he is a playmaker. You're not going to see any big plays down the field with him very often more. The curls, quick out screens, some shallow, crossers, occasionally you'll see him, run a corner route.

47:15 That's kind of the, the big, the big big routes. You'll see him run in this offense. and they will occasionally take a shot with him between the hashes but they're not, he's not a guy that's going to just line up outside and run past a cornerback All right, so let me ask this Braun and you've been watching the tape. Obviously, Thayer Thomas was their big wide receiver, right? Yep. How much? I mean, I don't want to say it's he just completely. I mean, when you saw number, when you saw number five, when you watch the Syracuse tape in the game, I mean, is it just Chambers just can't get it to him?

48:05 It was a little bit of that I think just because of the the skillset and because of the way Syracuse was playing them. Okay. I didn't really have a whole lot of opportunities to operate the way he normally does and it definitely goes away from from chamber strength, what they are Thomas does well, so it's kind of a little bit of an oil and vinegar situation there. We got to make sure we don't give him opportunities where Chambers can get an easy throw to him though. Yep. Because he definitely can bust their guns. He does have a long catch this year of 75 yards. All right Brian let's do real quick here. Let's jump on the scheme here scheme is Tim Beck. Tim back who came from Texas where he was a josi from 2017 to 2019. He's been at NC State now since 2021 step back, do kind of that Smash Mouth spread our po game.

49:01 Lots of E 1 and 12 Personnel, lots of motion and shifts and kind of window dressing, you'll see a lot of jet motion, bubble motion orbit motion. They're gonna throw a little bit everything, try to get the defense misaligned and out leveraged, you'll see a lot of screens and quick throws to the perimeter to get guys in space and they are selective with deep shots down the field and especially now with Leary out much more selective at least in the We have so far of what Chambers likes to do down the field. Let me ask this. I mean do you think he's purposely going to play a very controlled game?

49:44 Not take risks against the to and 50p team. Yeah and I think what we're about to talk about is the reason why he's going to do that. All right, let's flip it over. Let's talk about the defensive side of the ball and let's jump out straight up. And let's talk about Drake Thomas, because we're talking about three linebackers tonight. Y'all know normally will mix it up. safety DB, all three of the boundary line backers because they all three, they're all leading the team in tackling and legitimately they've accounted for as a group this year, 132 tackles In seven games, they are a dynamic unit.

50:32 But let's talk about Drake, Thomas, first Drake, Thomas linebacker six-foot-two, 30 Wake Forest, North Carolina. When he came out, he was a composite three-star, back in the class of 2019, a top-25 inside linebacker. You know, had looks from Alabama, had looks from Clemson and So he got some looks from a lot of different schools. Text took a look at it. I mean, obviously you go look at it. Charlie Wilds, who used to do North Carolina and Bud was a secondary. So obviously, if he called those two guys eyes, it said something. So what's the tape sale?

51:16 Tape says that he's a damn good outside. Linebacker plays really fast likes to penetrate and jump in the rushing Lanes attacks and pursues along the edge very well. The only really weakness in his game is that you know you can't get him to over pursue or get fooled with window dressing. So if we're able to do anything with the misdirection, we might be able to get him out of position there but you know when he gets a good read and uses his technique he is as disruptive. To visit any player you'll see now. And I said the whole unit, he's leading the team 50 tackles three pass deflected. Now Brian would there because we're going to talk about the other side outside linebacker next here.

52:00 Are there, is there a field side outside linebacker in the boundary side or is it ones on the left? Ones on the right? And that's where they stay. They kind of mix it up sometimes. Usually it's they're going strong and weak but sometimes they'll go go, go fielded boundary. If there is a if they go Tempo throw off its goes Tempo. Okay, so there is no way to say Drake's, always going to be on the boundary side. Tom Wilson, who are going to talk. Up. Next here is always going to be on the field. So to watch number 32 and 11 see where they're lining up. Every time because you can't guarantee we're going to be.

52:40 It's yeah, it's not, it's not a true key. They primarily you'll get C Wilson planning to the strong side, okay? But like I said, depending on if the offense goes Tempo or not, that could switch up. All right, well, let's talk about it. Let's talk about Peyton Wilson, the other linebacker 64, 230 pounds out of Hillsboro, North Carolina came out. The class of 2018 and he was a stud. I mean, a stud in every sense he was a four-star, 24/7. Had him as a 97, he was a top 40 player, he was top for outside linebacker in the country. He was the number four player in North Carolina. And if you take a look at his offer list, it's all the big names.

53:31 There's Alabama, There's Clemson, there's Florida State, there's Georgia, there's Penn State. we did make the offer back, way back in 2018, and this season so far, I mean, 42, total tackles What's the tape showing because, you know, obviously a lot of accolades are from the recruiting services and, you know, in last year didn't play. I think he got hurt last year, but 2020 108 tackles yep. And I mean really good house. Another good really good outside linebacker really Elite Pursuit skills, he's really strong at the point of attack but it wrong Army, the puller, keeping good leverage in the gap.

54:19 Good open field tackle. ER if there's a weakness in his game is that if you can get on him he's not great at shedding blocks but if he's shooting gaps and you know, playing playing with with leverage, it's hard. It's hard to keep him off the ball. The ball carrier there. All right, so there's two really good linebackers. Let's just talk about the third linebacker. Let's talk about Isaiah more, the six-foot-two 232 pounds. This is gonna hurt everybody. When I say this, he's from Chester Virginia, Ouch class of 2017.

55:00 He was a high Three Star by 24/7 for 789 number 12, player in the state top 20 outside linebacker in the country plated LC Bird and five years ago LC Bird was still one of the dogs here in Richmond. They don't say completely fell off but with the rise of Highland Springs VA Piranha returning, they're not as big as they used to be. We did not offer, but he was not as highly recruited coming out by some people. Only a few offers here and there but he's making people pay for that and NC State took the right angle you know 40 total tackles this year, he does have a sack.

55:46 And what's the tape showing on mr. Moore. Yeah. He's there Mike, he's often matched up in coverage on the inside. Most tied in when in man coverage, he's really good at sheddings and shedding blocks, really good at working through the trash, to get to his spot and make plays in The Run game. The only real weakness in his game is that he will occasionally missed tackles in the open area. So if Get him in space, you kind of you kind of put him at a disadvantage but if he's working inside that traffic and you don't have a big Lane to kind of maneuver, he's on, get you down. All right, let me be very Frank with you Braun of these three linebackers who has the potential to do the most damage. Thursday night, I'm going to say Dreher Thomas just because of how his quickness, okay?

56:53 I think stronger. I think his quickness is going to be could be a Difference Maker for us. All right. All right. So we talked about three linebackers because obviously sometimes when you have that good of a unit you just need to discuss them and I know, Brian. I kind of left the last one opened up for you and you shot me and said you want to talk about Josh Harris and it's funny. Josh Harris, six-foot-four 325. He is from Roxboro, North Carolina. So for Robbie who's listening out there in any of our other friends Mal effects County? It's been was a class of 2019. He played for person.

57:33 Hi Brian School. You were very familiar with in your four years of playing football for Halla. Fortunately, I'm 40 year class of 2019 and a pretty big-time recruit. It's why you continue to go do these smaller parts of your state to recruit because guys like Josh Harris come out, he was a four-star top 25 defensive tackle in the country top 250 player in the composite top 15, the state of Carolina when he came out and and he was recruited. You see the name Alabama? You see Clemson Wisconsin came down and made offer am Tennessee of how the state. So highly recruited.

58:15 Got a little person County and even though his numbers aren't big Braun, I think we see that sighs. I think We probably know where you're about to go with what he does. Well, you know, when we talk about the 33, you talk about the guy in the middle being the guy that helps the three guys that I just mentioned, eat all night and that's what he does. He's a space heater. He does a really good job of occupying blockers. He regularly re-establishes the line of scrimmage. And that's big for the type of player in this system. He underrated as a pass rusher, he's a really good.

58:59 Push Pull in a bull rush and he uses those pretty regularly and he's able to get some some quick penetration on the quarterback. The only thing I'll say about him is motor could be a little better and that might come with a, you know, another year to conditioning in the program. But yeah, definitely Dynamic player for his size and now I'm going back through that message real quick. Even though this is a long time ago, he actually did go to Halifax County Schools until the sixth grade, so he would, I guess he would have not played middle school ball, right? Middle School still six, seven eight. Yeah. He just missed it, just missed it.

59:40 Just miss being a lion just miss being a lion playing for the team. All right, well, Brian, let's flip it. We obviously are super familiar with this defensive system with Tony Gibson. But let's just talk about a little bit more. Let's talk about that 335 stagnant, Tony runs. Yeah it's a 335 it does a good job of confusing. The blocking schemes with you know some unbalanced and shifting that can get them confused at times. They don't bring a lot of heavy pressure usually three down. Plus 1 is what they bring in terms of rushing the passer so they will Blitz occasionally but that's not something that Do very often, it's kind of where it's coming from.

1:00:26 You don't really know where it's coming from, and that's where it kind of creates that confusion across the offensive line. They get consistent pressure by bringing just those four, but it's one of those again. If you can get get the Run going against them, they become vulnerable because they're not very great in the back end, which we didn't talk about anyone on the back end. And for a pretty pretty decent reason they're there. They're not bad but there's nothing outstanding. They're really kind of jumps off the screen. Alright, so there it is. No the enemy. So remember those names? Remember some of those things. We're talking about the scheme. All right, Brian. Let's go over to the Hokies keys and I know I was I told you I won't line is going to be what I said, the rest of the friggin year until we start doing it, but let's be straight up. It's going to be how good can we run the ball on Thursday night? They're decent.

1:01:23 No, they're decent team against the run, you know, they're essentially top there. 36 in the country. They average right at 4.3, carry the given up, just over 120 yards, a game. But and I don't, it's really weird. You see this? But Devon Larry goes down. And yes, they play. Jordan Travis at FSU, a very mobile quarterback, and then they played Syracuse with one week to prepare. But the last two games, this defense is uncharacteristically giving up six and a half per carry. Now. It's I'm trying to suffice that.

1:02:03 Yeah I mean I think the big thing is that If we can get and we seen it because you get, you've had back-to-back weeks where you got a quarterback, that is either very mobile. Or highly mobile Schrader has good Mobility. You know, we saw with FSU. What happened there, if we can run the ball as effectively as we did with Wells that are last game, I think that's, that's something that we can look at. That's something we can build on and that'll that'll open up. More things for the running backs as well. So if we can get, I'm not saying we need to get that six-and-a-half carry that we've seen that be great.

1:02:44 Yeah, that'd be great. Then the great. But if we can get, you know, a shade above that average and that, you know, 135 1 to 150 range as a team and somewhere around four four-and-a-half, carry 1/2, I'll go four and a half. Okay, well, let me ask you this because I think we could lower because I think them Susan. Leary. I mean do you think if we run the ball 40 times and get go three and a half of carry without lyrics and I'm suppressing this because they don't lose a good enough quarterback against a team like we're built this year. He could potentially beat us, right? Yeah, he could have a game where he beats us, not the rest of the team.

1:03:31 So, I say 35 times, would you take three and a half of Carrie? And that would put us at what about 120. I'm gonna throw you a caveat there, okay? Because not all three and a half per carries. Are built the same right through. So if we're talking more boom or bust up say no, that would not suffice. If we're talking consistently since is in is consistently not just on the whole getting 3.5 but if we're consistently, getting 3 to 4 yards, every time we rush the ball then. Yes. If we're having a gain of 20 and then we got back to Baghdad - want to then no, no. We're that's not, that's it done. I like that caveat and that's the caveat. I want to see because if you're telling me we're averaging three and a half and if our long all nights 12, but we're still averaging three and a half.

1:04:27 That means they're not getting in the backfield. That means we're getting line of scrimmage or those one or two yard games Every Time We Touch them over. Moving forward consistent because to your point, what scares the hell out of you saying me saying three-and-a-half is well what if Keshawn catches just catches the crease? Like we've seen a couple of times and go 65 yards. That means the other 29 carries a gonna be about what 1.5. Okay, I don't guesses. So yeah I mean I'll say I'll take a touchdown in two field goals over that, one long touchdown. Long as we're continuously. Yeah, if because if we consistently moving the football, then we're consistently getting into scoring range and putting some points on the board. And without Leary, some points is going to keep us in this game.

1:05:22 That's I mean it's big because it's one of those games because it's Chambers, I do think Tim I think Beck's going to play close to the vest. I think he knows he has a good defense on the other side. I think doors going to play close to the vest because what he does it need is Jack Chambers. Going out there and throwing a pick six or taking points off the board, right? He does he doesn't want to end up in a similar situation that we put BC in early in that game. Where, you know, they have some things that they can do well but they're having to play catch-up the whole time. Makes. And I'm not saying that, I obviously, they don't have a an offensive line as awful as Boston College has, at least, especially as they were when we played them, they've they're a little bit improved since then, but at the same time, you never liked to play from behind two scores.

1:06:21 So now, if I don't think they're going to come out aggressive in this game, At least on the offensive side, got it. Well, let's flip it down. Let's talk about the Hokies run defense because I think I think Chambers out there that always worries you as a running quarterback because it feels like it's just been our Achilles heel for years upon years now. But just in general, you know, they have two solid running backs who can make gains and they're coming off plan to good defense has especially to good. Run defense, has you know Florida State's 22nd in the country Syracuse? Is, you know, get their rank here.

1:07:01 I had it up a second ago. I went away. Syracuse 44th in the country so they did not play. Excuse me on that. Braun, I had the wrong data point up here. Give me one moment, but we know Syracuse has a good defense. We've seen that all year. Syracuse has a very good defense overall in, you know, 39th against the Run Florida. Estate not as good against the run, but when you watch those two games and just kind of watch the rain attack, How big is it? Like if because if you say, you say, we get three if we give up 3.7 a carry to them.

1:07:48 Well, first of all, the games going to be ugly, anyway, it's going to be really ugly they go 3.7 and Carrie. Yeah, if they go 3.7 to carry then it gets really ugly because and in that in that situation, I mean we're kind of on equal footing there because if they're struggling to run the ball, they're having to put Chambers in a situation. He's not great in. I'd probably take on the whole what wells can do over. What Chambers can do really? It's just just narrowly because I think Wells can make a couple throws down the field at a better clip than what Chambers can Chambers might nickel and dime you he might throw you quick outs screens. Little flares to the running back and wide receiver things that can kind of get you some, maybe some yards after the catch, but he's not going to attack you downfield, consistently.

1:08:48 Okay, that's something we can do a little bit better, I think. So that's where there's some opportunity there if we can stop there, rushing attack early, and get them where they have to kind of use those. Those quick plays to the to the wide receivers, in the running backs as de facto rushing plays, because they can't really generate anything between the tackles unless they run their quarterback. That's something to look at. All right, got you? All right? Another big one. And it's kind of the story of the year, right? Is we have Boy turnovers then now we're going against the team that has forced 13 total turnovers in seven games.

1:09:30 They're almost getting two turnovers a game. And I'm sure you didn't want to hear this for high-end, they have 11 interceptions. They do their top 15 in the country, in that their top, 30 in the country, in forced turnovers. If we don't Play a clean game. You know, we're already kind of behind the eight ball but knowing that they don't have the explicit. If it was leery, we could afford zero, maybe we can afford one. I want 0, because if we, if we turn it over, we're given a hamstrung offense more chances. Absolutely.

1:10:12 We this is a game where I think I mean turnovers kind of goes both ways here. I think we need to potentially Force One to give our offense and extra chance here maybe with a short field and I think we need to do a very good job of protecting the football. You know, they will, they will get an interception here and there and most of that comes off of them, their ability to get pressure with for enforce, those bad throws. There's a saying if you have eight, guys, if you have seven guys back in covered with, you have a cheer you're getting penalized. But if you have seven guys back in coverage, able to make a play mean, that's another big thing. And again, I'll talk about turnovers defensively real quick to.

1:10:54 I mean, I mean, Brian, we're literally the fourth worst team in the country. If forcing turnovers, we have 5 to the season and eventually you say to yourself, can't, there be a regression to the mean. And by that, that means we would get three on Thursday night and we've been close a handful of times, man. So it's not, it's not just that, you know, we're not there it's that were there. And sometimes we don't do just don't quite make the play. Yeah, so we got to get better at that. And and the last thing we'll talk about, as far as it on the table for it, he offensive wrinkles. I had before he gets deep into it, I had something else I wanted to discuss, we start shooting it and you say I want this. So, All yours big man.

1:11:41 Yeah we got to see some offensive wrinkles. I like the scheme overall but prize already talked about it we're a little bit to Vidal and what we're trying to do we are not doing a good job of just going out there and Road grading teams and then throwing play-action off of that because we haven't been up to run effectively are play action has not been effective. That means that our quick passing game is also very predictable because we're trying to get those Those short, quick passes to the tight end into the running back. They work here and there but the defense start skiing on them, they take that away and that's why we've seen some stagnant drives happen in those second and third quarters. Until we start mixing things up a little bit to close out the game.

1:12:27 We got to get better at getting some wrinkles in the offense, and we got to be better at adjusting it halftime. So when they try to take some of those things away, we're ready with a good counter in the second half. So We don't hit those roadblocks that. We've seen to start the second half on offense, you know, I want to see some some more creativity in the passing game. I'd like to see us. Go to some quick passes that aren't those. Kind of like quick quick screens and quick outs to the tight ends into the running backs. I want to see us mix-up and maybe run some counters off of that or some Throwbacks or you know something to kind of get the defense moving One Direction and attack than the other direction. Because right now we're not taking advantage of some of that flow that we're getting to those bread-and-butter plays that we've established.

1:13:17 Yeah. And and again the bread and butter isn't the best of it. But I think two bronze point is if the bread-and-butter ain't doing it, you start throwing the wrinkles the eyes, the feet start moving and so when you throw those little wrinkles, you do those unique things. It makes guys think and then when you run a bread and butter inside power or something, right? Well, if you're putting a little window dressing again, something that to me, I we always saw as a staple of the Wisconsin, offense was like running a tight end around. I'll run a little sleep like that, where it's then it goes into the power, we don't see things like that. And those things are what makes linebackers move and make it a lot easier for the lining to get up field.

1:14:00 So it will be interesting and we haven't seen a lot of wheels off of those tight end, quick outs and screens, not as many as I thought, we'd see where we can kind of take advantage of them and their aggressiveness jumping that route, well, wouldn't it be nice to see both Thomas and King on the field? Same time where when you run a wheel out of that because that linebackers going to stay home a couple more tenths of a second, right? Because if you're showing up again, I always just say, throw a fake screen, fake, the draw that line backers, not going to move. If the safeties are focused on the, you do slip out the wheel, and things like that. So, yeah, well, you can also put the running backs out there and send one one way.

1:14:47 And one the other you get an extra linebacker out of the box. But let's just say this, at least as a fan, our concerns are being addressed vocally. Yep. Which is a complete turnaround from the last few years because we don't need to be vanilla. We need to play the best players. We need to do this, and I know some people will say, well, that's just words. Well, would you rather have no action, no words? Or would you rather, at least have word? Because what it tells you is, if somebody keep screwing up, somebody might get their asses fired. Yeah, we know that are we at least know at this point that our head coach sees it and is knowledge it.

1:15:31 Now whether he does something about it, that's to be seen but we're at least getting the right message of. Hey, I see this. I hear you. We're trying to address that and then let the chips fall where they may, and hopefully we see some chip start falling in the right direction here. This weekend, or this. Let's hope so. Well let's go to those predictions Brian. And you know it's even with without if Devin lyrics here I have the scores a lot uglier to me but I still just can't do it. I think n CA C NC state has a home field advantage. Their defense is significantly better than our offense. Although our defense is better than their offense without Leary.

1:16:22 I think this is low scoring, I'm still trying to figure You're out how the over unders 40, it was 42 and 43 earlier in the week. I don't get that but I think NC State does pull one off like a 17-10 win. Yeah, I'm kind of in that same ballpark. Yeah. I think their defense is just a little bit better than our defense. I think it's ugly game. I think we're both not great offensively. I think it's a 16-13 NC State victory. Alrighty. Well Brian big screeners last week was good to both of us. We both hit our games, your Okie State, taking the home, dog, with the points. They ended up winning out, right? And then thanks to a late sort of nothing touched down or again, UCLA goes over at the office and zoo and this weekend, Brian, where are you?

1:17:21 Taking us on your big screen I'm going to the bourbon brawl Tennessee, Little Tennessee. Whiskey against some Kentucky bourbon. In that one, the over is over under 63. I'm actually going to take the over there. The spread is 13. Tennessee is a 13-point home favorite. I think that's just a little little too much for me. I think Tennessee, definitely wins this, but I think it's more in that kind of the ten eleven point range. So, givi Kentucky, and the 13. And I'm going to take that over at 63 all. So Brian Kentucky, tonight's a night game right after 7:00 7:00.

1:18:10 Yep. So in o'clock. Alright, well for me, I looked around and I tried, there's some rank matchups that are later. Obviously it's a big one at noon with Ohio State and Penn State. I'm not going to be here for that and then lo and behold, I find number one team in the country is playing Florida and of our age group. This is the world's largest outdoor cocktail party. I've had some colleagues at work, go to this game. I've had some fraternity, Brothers, go this game. A, it's one of those if you want to go to a party weekend, whether you like either team or not go to it because apparently down in, Duval, that is one wild ass weekend.

1:18:56 Currently we've got George at 23 and a half in an over-under of 56 and a half. I'm not touching 23 and a half even though Georgia is superior. This is one of those get up games, right? Yep, this is a rivalry. They don't like each. Other has two stadiums read half the Stadium's Orange. and I sit here that under 56 is intriguing because I think that's where I got it. I got to go under. I think Georgia wins. I don't could I see them winning by 30 could I see them winning something? Like 3810.

1:19:38 Yeah. Could I see it being something like 28? You know? 2810. Yeah. Because that Georgia offense has been this up and down and they are playing a significantly better team this week so or player wise Napier's getting their schematically but player wise is probably the best team they've seen in a while. So I'll take the under that game and just reminisce and, you know, we're getting loaded this weekend between the bourbon brawl and the cocktail Already we might stumble in here on Saturday night. I like that. I like that, right? Anything breaking the last hour and 20 minutes here. I'm not seeing anything, buddy.

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