This week we recap the Hokies frustrating trip to Piscataway, NJ where the Hokies outgained the Scarlet Knights but lost in near blowout fashion. We then turn our attentions to our next road trip to Huntington, WV where the Hokies travel this week to face the Thundering Herd of Marshall. As always we wrap up this episode by sharing our weekly Big Screener picks.

Show Notes
Transcript

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And welcome back to the Boundary
Corner Podcast along with my

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partners Brian Siegler, Jonathan
Talley, and Shelton Moss.

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I am Curtis Wilson in this
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We all throwing all off here.
Last week we were Wednesday

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night.
We ain't done Tuesday in two

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weeks.
Shelters back.

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It's Monday, boys, and it's been
a long, long weekend.

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We have not done a Monday night
episode and I cannot remember

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how long, man.
Monday Night Raw, baby.

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Monday Night Raw.
It's going to be RAW.

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We got a little double feature
on the screen back here.

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Got a little double feature?
Prayers up to Nick Chub.

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Man, I went in.
Oh God, yeah.

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I went in, looked.
I did.

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That's not good.
And that stinks for him.

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Yeah, not great at all.
Yeah.

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Prayers up to him.
Prayers up for the fantasy

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owners that have him because I
know some of y'all in big dollar

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leagues and y'all took him in
the first round, so you know

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you'll lose your money now.
But y'all, we got a ton to

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unload obviously.
We're going to talk about the

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Rutgers game, we're going to
talk about knowing the enemy and

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Marshall and everything in
between real quick as usual, I

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kick off the episode, hashtag
rally for Robbie.

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Again, it's another away game,
so go down to the pharmacy then

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most 7 bucks get this in support
of a great call.

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Shout out Grayson out on the
West Coast real quick before we

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get into discussing the Rutgers
game.

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There was a decommitment that
anybody that knew anything.

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When the kid got the offer, he
was going to be gone.

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And that's Eric Mensa flipping
to Ohio State.

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Everybody that looked into that,
anybody that knew any committed,

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basically it was said right.
I know we talked about it.

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All four of us were on
conversations about it.

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If he gets Ohio State, he's
gone.

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The whole hope is they land one
of their bigger DT's, you know,

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some top 100 player and they
leave him alone, but

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unfortunately they didn't.
Right.

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Yeah, that was the concern at
the gate.

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Like, we knew, all right, we
knew that Virginia Tech was

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probably a settle selection
because he had his eyes on Ohio

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State.
He hadn't gotten a committable

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offer at that time.
He wanted to make sure that he

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had a spot somewhere and a boat
that that that was of his

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choosing and not having to go
with slim pickings at the end of

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the cycle.
We were that choice, Ohio State

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said.
Come on in the boat and here's

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where we are guys.
Yeah, definitely.

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Big time, you know, big time
loss because I feel like the

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trenches is what we need both
sides of the ball.

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So to lose a defensive lineman,
I don't know what they're going

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to put him at, but big guy like
that, definitely not a easy pill

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to swallow, but like you said,
Curtis, kind of.

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Expected from the beginning
because it's just what we are as

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a program right now.
We've got some building to do so

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we can hold on to kids like that
and fight off those big program,

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but at this point we are who we
are.

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Yep.
Anything additional to add on

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this Shelton or you know?
Nope.

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I'll have to get to the once.
That's how it goes.

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So.
Gotta keep.

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Gotta keep moving on and just
keep finding a way to develop

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them.
Yes, it is.

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All right.
Well boys, that's all we got.

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In sort of the news and notes
section, I pulled something out

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of there because we're going to
talk about it later, but let's

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talk about it.
It's to tell the truth.

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Tuesday, Monday Night Edition
Hokies Fall 2, Rutgers, 3516.

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One of those I told CIGLA
watching this game.

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Then Cigla got up with the
families, grilled some burgers

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out, had a good time.
Smash burgers.

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Wrong point.
Burgers were on point Y'all

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y'all don't know that that's man
can cook smash burgers on his

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griddle.
We we partaked in two me and him

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did grubbed down to yeah but I
told Brian my first thought on

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this game was pit last year.
Similar vibes of they got out on

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us.
We clawed back.

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We're right there.
We need one good thing to happen

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and then the wheels fell off and
we're going to talk about the

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wheels falling off, but we're
going to talk about that.

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Some things did go well.
That's what we start with.

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We start with the positives,
What went well?

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And Brian, I'll let you, I'll
let you kick it off on the

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offensive side of the ball.
What is the one thing that we

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know went well?
Well, it's been a hot fucking

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topic on the timeline, but
drones proved he's quarterback

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one.
That's what happened.

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If you're looking at what Tyler
Bowen wants to do from a

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schematic standpoint on offense,
Drones gives us the most

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complete version of that.
Of the quarterbacks that we have

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on the roster right now that are
ready to play, Drones gives us

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the most complete version of
that, and we saw it.

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We saw it come to fruition with
the way we were able to generate

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a somewhat competent rushing
attack against the best rush

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defense we've we've played so
far this season and a very good

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rush defense.
And I didn't other than maybe

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some and then we'll talk about
this.

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Some of the explosive plays, I
didn't really see a drop off in

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terms of passing efficiency,
very.

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Wells edged game, you know, like
it was like it wasn't, you know,

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didn't blow me away with numbers
as far as what he did.

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And I think 1 touchdown, 1
interception, 19 for 30 or 19

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for 31, something like that, 190
yards.

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Like you said, no, no drop off.
You carry the ball 22 times

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though for like 75 yards.
We haven't seen that in a while

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and and it just to me looked
like plays were different when

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he was in there, you know, and I
can say the kid was trying, he's

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got a lot of stuff to work on.
But I can say the kid was in

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there giving it his all.
He left it on the field and I

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think that the more that he gets
comfortable.

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Playing with his guys and and
running that offense, I think

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you can only get better.
You know, that's just me.

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That's what I see.
That's what I seen watching the

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game.
I didn't see somebody who was,

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you know, kind of timid and
scared to, you know, make a

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play.
Now we had some excuse.

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Of course I know everybody know
that.

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We got to tell the truth.
Tell the truth to stay Monday

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night raw, whatever you want to
call it.

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Yeah, we can't.
We can't turn the ball over

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first play of the game, but.
I think you got to go with him

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the rest of the year.
Yeah, Sean, what you get, you

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get anything from a data point
that kind of said, OK, here's

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where we were.
I don't even want to say the

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first two weeks.
To me ODU is G5.

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We played two Power Five teams
back-to-back.

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Yes, they are different, but
what?

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What sort of data points are we
seeing that might say where

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we're feeling in our eyes saying
leaving QB One is drones?

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Yeah, I mean, well, it
definitely got better.

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I mean, the Purdue game from a
rushing perspective, in terms of

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EPA expected points added was
literally the worst rushing

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performance by any team, any FPS
team, any game this year.

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So it got better.
It did get better.

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I thought the Russian game was a
lot better.

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They had some success running
those QB draws.

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Sometimes there is
miscommunication between, you

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know, the quarterback and the
halfback as far as you know what

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they were trying to do, kind of,
you know, not sure where where

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each guy was in the backfield.
But those things kind of are

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expected with with the first
time KV starter, but I thought

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it was good.
I mean I think his legs provide

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a lot, a lot for the team.
He's much more comfortable as a

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runner obviously than Wells is.
And I think he fits the the

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vision for Bowen in terms of
just that that RPO you know,

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zone running schema offense in
terms of just the ability to

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create plays with his legs.
So you know, stats wise, nothing

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really jumps off the board a
ton.

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But if you're talking about just
a relative to what we've seen

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from Tech the past couple of
games, it was a lot better.

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Yeah, if you say that and I'll
throw up because you said Purdue

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was the worst game, first two
games this year, net brushing of

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120 yards, that is the 60 yards
of the game.

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We were at 129.
That brushing for the game

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versus Rutgers, which is a
significantly better brush

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defense and significantly better
defense in general.

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So I see that and I see 100%
improvement.

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The only thing that changed was
Conran drones.

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He didn't have his top 2 outer
speakers.

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Jalen Lane was out.
We know that Ali's going to be

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out for a while, if not the
whole season.

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If the reason what he did
without those two guys on the

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field and and the way I loved it
he locked on one guy all day

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that we didn't Holloway X, GB
Gosnell even that is Aiden

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Green.
The freshman Aquan Wright had

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catched Awon Lofton had catched.
It wasn't like he locked on one

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guy and that's all he found all
day.

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There were some tremble drills
we made.

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Good place.
But the guy that jumped out as

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far as I I'm concerned, Daquan
Felton proved he is for real. 6

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catches, 84 yards and if he
doesn't miss that one I think it

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would have been that was a 50
plus yard default, 130 plus and

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an extra touchdown.
Belden's for real.

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When did you say stat tally?
Oh yeah, man, he looked good.

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I've been screaming to get him
involved in just the game,

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period.
You know, they tried to go long

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to get him involved, but I seen
him, you know, one of my

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favorite players that I seen
them close to the red zone or

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close to the goal line.
They hit him with a screen, you

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know, and then they just let him
work.

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It's kind of extension of the
running game.

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Just pop up, throw them the
ball.

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Kudos to the blocking man.
Kudos to the blocking when you

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when you get your wide receivers
out there blocking for a big

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time.
Receiver like that.

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But we needed him to to get some
confidence because he looked so

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deflated against Purdue.
You know to keep running routes

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and the players are just not
going your way.

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You're just not getting the
looks you're just not getting.

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You're just not getting the
stats, you know?

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And you can see him on the
sideline.

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I got a video of him on the
sideline kind of pacing.

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He's just, he's just frustrated,
you know, he's transferred in

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and he wants to be involved.
Of course he is.

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Of course he does.
So to see him get started, I'm

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hoping it can, you know, give us
some kind of spark moving

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forward because we're going to
need it, man.

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We're going to need all hands on
deck.

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Tucker Holloway is gimpy.
He looked gimpy.

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I said it when he returned the
kick.

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He looked gimpy.
We don't know when Lane's coming

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back.
Jennings is is is out for the

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foreseeable future like right
was still banged up.

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We are banged up, man.
You know what I'm saying?

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So anybody that we can see
flash, let's let let's let him

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meet.
Please let him meet.

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What about you, Brian?
What did you see from him, other

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than some of the stuff Tally
pointed out?

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So when I looked at this team,
it almost was like.

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We had a similar wide receiver
makeup as we had most of last

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year, just with a little bit of
an extra bump, right?

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Because I feel like Felton skill
set is kind of similar to what

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Caleb Smith brought to the
table.

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I feel like Felton is a little
bit more physical than Caleb

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was, but I think that in terms
of their overall skill set, good

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combination of speed and size,
right?

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And then you got most of the
cast of characters that we had

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last year with with XTB and and
Benji Gosnell kind of thrown in

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there.
But it kind of kind of reset the

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the level of the the wide
receiver room again kind of to

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that 2022 level.
And I thought that given those

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limitations, I think everybody
kind of did did what did what

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they could expect or the most
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I think Felon had a good game
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One drop that was.
You know, pretty big.

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But I think he showed that he
could be a guy that you could

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lean on when you don't have one
or two other guys in the game

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for an extended stretch there.
So you know we'll see how we

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move forward with that.
But probably his best game all

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around and obviously you know he
he was more of the focal point

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this week than we've seen the
last couple on anything data

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wise on, I know we're we're
very, very short into the season

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with Felton but anything on him.
No, he's graded out fine.

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I know he missed he missed one
pass buck on his screen pass I

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think in the first half which
was not not great.

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But no I think he's been good
and also the the touch on that

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he scored was a good a good
route concept.

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Their Rutgers, I don't know what
their coverage was but they're

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playing some, you know deep zone
defense where I think the corner

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was backing off and he kind of
came over as a crosser and drone

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sent him for a big score.
So good, good route against that

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particular coverage.
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So again, offensively not all
bad.

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I think the other thing that I
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immediately with the exception
of the last one when we were

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down 35 to 16, you know how many
three and outs we had not

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withstanding turnovers, how many
goose egg we did not have 1/3

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and out less the turnovers.
We didn't have a three and out

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we moved the ball every time.
Because if you think about it,

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we pinned them deep a couple
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We got the midfield a couple
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we missed the field goal, which
really was deflating because it

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was a 37 yarder, you know, and
John Love had made those.

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I told Brian I like he must have
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upright to miss it where he did.
But that is what it is

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offensively.
Let's talk about the defense

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because we got a couple points
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They're going to come out a
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But you know, other than that
one big explosive run Winstead

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had that 34 yard touchdown run,
the other ten runs he had were

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roughly for about 53 yards.
So if you tell me a running

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quarterback is averaging 5 yards
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twice on Sundays?
Yeah, besides that man, he had

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40 yards passing.
You know, I know we're going to

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probably touch on that in a
little bit, but if you can, if

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you can hold a quarterback, if
you tell me, we hold a

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quarterback to 46 yards throwing
the ball and they are not

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running A2 quarterback system,
they only have whatever, 50

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yards passing, I would never
think we lose 35 to 16.

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But again.
At least think it would be a

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close game, like the way it
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I mean, that ended up being a
blowout.

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Yeah it all came down to those
big runs like you said kind of

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reminiscent of the pick game
last year man.

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You know you get to the point
where okay we get a stop here we

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we got something and and and we
we let them blow off a big ruin

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even you know and and again I
know we touch on a lot of stuff

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but even thinking about that I
think it was a third down call

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maybe like third and 132 and.
We got everybody flying inside

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and they're running back busted
to the outside for a 55 yard

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touchdown and what a turnover
man you got.

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You just can't as a team, you
can't do that, Brian.

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Don't say it yet.
Brian's got that play already.

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Don't don't say anything on
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You'll make him jump a segment
ahead, Segment ahead.

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What else, Brian?
Brian, I felt like sitting with

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you.
You kept saying better raps,

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better raps, especially up front
plus in the front seven, which

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if the front seven had tackled
better against?

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They don't get as much as they
did offensively.

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Yeah, I thought the tackling,
especially with the linebackers,

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improved in this game.
Unfortunately, there was other

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holes that opened up elsewhere
in the in that aspect of it, but

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I thought the linebackers played
pretty well.

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I thought the front tackled
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We didn't quite get home on some
of those those blitzes, but I

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thought we did a pretty good job
of.

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Tackling when we were in a
position to make a play in the

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run game, you know the the the
big problem was is that we'd

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have these long stretches of
defense where we're forcing 3

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and outs and then we let a big
one go like very much a boom or

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bust defensive game overall.
So it's really hard to kind of

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wrap your head around that
because you know it was, again

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going circling back to Curtis is
very much like the pit game

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where you either were giving up
nothing or everything.

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Sheldon, do you have anything on
like where we are currently

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explosive plays wise?
I do not back in looking up

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quickly.
All right.

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Well, while he's looking that
up, I think something we are

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noticing is and you mentioned
with the 46 yards tally, the

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back end coverage wise,
regardless who's back there,

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regardless how they're rotating
the safeties, regardless if

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they're putting the young guys
in at corner, the the back end

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coverage, those concepts with
those young guys are getting it.

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And obviously the guys who've
been here a while are

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absolutely, absolutely getting
it because.

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And you got to understand too
like this.

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I know this isn't a moral
victory podcast or a excuse

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podcast, but the truth is what
the truth is.

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Like somebody said the other
day, we are down three out of

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four captains the third game of
the season.

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You know, you got Schrollman
went out in that game.

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Yes, he did.
Schrollman went out and you can

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see when he went out it was a
different defense.

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Schrollman went out.
Kiante Jenkins is hurt.

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You got Jalen Jones and a true
freshman back there.

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Jalen Jones was a wide receiver
last year and most Phillips was

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in high school.
High school last year.

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So man, it is it, dude, we are.
I said man, we got to be we we

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got to go tip somebody off, man.
We got the worst any college

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football team I've ever watched.
But again, man, it is a lot

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moving back there and I got to
get at least some kudos to the

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young guys, man.
They are getting in now seeing

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Dante Lovett coming in and and
and absolutely put his face in a

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couple of tackles and that's a
big deal we're going to need,

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we're going to need stuff like
that.

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We'll need guys to develop.
Yeah.

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I mean, Tally, you talked about
it like.

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We we said at the start of the
season we were making our

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predictions that looking at this
roster, it's improved but the

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margins are razor fucking thin
because when your starters go

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out you get real young real
quick.

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And the two areas that we are
have some actual experience in

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are also two areas that we under
recruited for significant years.

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Mention of the D line and O
line.

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So that those are two things
that are right now working in

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tandem is that we've got a bunch
of injuries in areas that we did

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improve in, in some ways and you
couple that with your other two

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units are now harder to hide.
The two units that you knew were

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going to be problems this year
are harder to hide.

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So it's it's it's a lot, it's a
lot of snowballing happening,

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happening right now with those
injuries and and that kind of

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puts us in that situation we
were talking about.

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You know, you're starting to
kind of ratchet down those

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expectations because we said it.
Things aren't going exactly the

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way you want to from an injury
standpoint.

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Well, you can never predict
injuries, and we'll talk about

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that in just a few minutes here.
But Sheldon, you said you were

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able to find it.
And I know I'm going to take

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this and we're going to pivot it
in a second, but Sheldon, what

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are we looking like?
Explosive plays wise on defense.

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Not good.
I just focus on the explosive

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rushing plays allowed.
Tech is 125th in number of 10

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plus yard rushing plays allowed
and if you'll get 20 plus yards

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they are 4th to last ahead of
only.

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West Kentucky, Buffalo and North
Texas.

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So 125th 127 out of 131.
So 133 actually, yes.

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I'm I'm sorry, forgot you don't.
Don't say Houston State.

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Sure they.
Got a boy corner?

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Let's not talk about that often,
Sam Houston, hey.

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But I think let's pivot it over
into the what went bad because

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you know Brian, go ahead and go
to it because you you mentioned

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it all afternoon especially
after struggling went out.

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What's causing the explosive run
plays?

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I'd love to.
I'd love to have the breakdown

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of where we went from week two
to week four.

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Yeah, I mean, I I feel like
there's a couple things at play

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here.
Number one, we saw kind of the

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return of the cascade effect
from last season where you have

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a bad play and that leads to
another bad play.

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The The bad part is, is that
that happened right out the gate

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for us, right?
We had a we had a fumble.

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One play later, it's a
touchdown.

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We're already.
Explosive run play there's been.

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Three offensive plays run and
and you started with the ball

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and now you're down a touchdown,
so.

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And it was a nobody touched
anybody.

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No it.
Was just deflated as soon as you

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get the over pursuit and then
the the lanes like it parted

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like the Red Sea pal right up
the middle.

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So the other problem is that you
know we're we're looking at the

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safety situation.
This goes back to the injuries.

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But as you said we've got Jalen
Jones, most Phillips playing a

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large majority of the snaps in
this game.

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And I feel like from a from from
the perspective of coverage,

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there's not a big drop off with
those two compared to the the

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two starters this year People's
and Jalen Strumman, there's not

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a huge drop off there.
Where there is a drop off is in

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that run.
There's run fits in the run

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coverage.
We they are struggling right now

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with fits, pursuit angles and
pretty much everything that they

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need to do in terms of run
support.

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It wasn't, it wasn't, it wasn't
great last week.

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It was very bad this week.
Well, the 55 yard run Brian, we

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were we we sat there and watched
that and as soon as it happened,

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as soon as they showed the
replay, blind screamed.

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Because I think we looked on
Twitter and someone was like,

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what's Strong doing?
And Brian's like they're in man,

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he says.
Strong.

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Strong is running with his man,
as he should.

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The safety is supposed to
replace that.

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He he is now the Force player.
He was not the Force player.

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He well, he stayed inside.
Yeah.

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Because if you, if you look at I
wish, I wish we had time to pull

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it.
We had to do this 24 hours

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notice.
But you said as soon as Strong

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crossed his back, he should have
taken with three steps and

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effectively turned his body to
leverage inside.

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He did, and he stayed right
there.

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That tight end got off on him in
two seconds off tackle outside

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and I mean there wasn't a great
angle from the from the backside

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safety either the the backside
safety over pursued.

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So it was really both safeties
were now out of position.

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Were you about to say Tally?
I'm just saying that's what a

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good coach team does like
they'll exploit a broken play or

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a weakness.
And you know that play wasn't

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designed to go for 55 yard
touchdown.

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They were trying to get a first
down.

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But that running back, he's,
he's a good running back and

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he's a well coach running back
and he bounce that thing to the

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outside and he was off to the
racing.

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So those run fits have to get
better if we want to slow

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somebody down.
I like what what y'all mentioned

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there.
Brian and Tally talking about

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that first one, nobody wanted to
touch anybody and some of those

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we were just way too aggressive
and and what we're talking

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about, there are times they're
too, those safeties are too

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passive and there's times
they're too aggressive.

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And to me that's a youth thing,
That's a youth thing because

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there's nothing you can do
because if you tell them, hey,

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you got to be more aggressive
and then the next time they be

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aggressive.
And they completely overshoot

446
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,720
the gap, but they completely
missed the fit.

447
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,720
Hey, you got calm down within
the back 15 yards and the guys

448
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,400
getting way up field Sheldon.
Well, this, this is what happens

449
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,160
when you have two guys that are
playing that you expected to

450
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:38,440
play 2025% of the snaps in the
game playing 75 eighty 90% of

451
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,000
the snaps of.
The game they playing, all of

452
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,800
them, and there's only so much
because we're, I think there's a

453
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,880
snap count out there about
Mansour.

454
00:25:45,350 --> 00:25:47,510
And Sewer's trying to play some.
They're trying to put Canteen in

455
00:25:47,510 --> 00:25:50,190
those safety situations.
They're trying to rotate those

456
00:25:50,190 --> 00:25:54,430
guys to help it out.
But eventually it's like they're

457
00:25:54,430 --> 00:25:56,590
still, even if you rotate
perfectly, they're still going

458
00:25:56,590 --> 00:26:00,350
to be bringing 60% shown that.
Were you able to get those the

459
00:26:00,350 --> 00:26:03,270
the the Moss and Jalen run
grades?

460
00:26:03,990 --> 00:26:05,430
I, I I just got to hear it, if
we got it.

461
00:26:06,470 --> 00:26:08,670
It was.
I know for Jones it was.

462
00:26:08,710 --> 00:26:12,390
It was in the I think his grade
for this game was in the 20s for

463
00:26:12,390 --> 00:26:16,550
run, for run defense.
So, and for the season he's in

464
00:26:16,550 --> 00:26:18,190
the 40s, which?
I think is.

465
00:26:19,270 --> 00:26:24,870
I think is the third worst among
Power 5 safeties, so it's been

466
00:26:24,870 --> 00:26:27,070
rough.
So we're not just talking about

467
00:26:27,070 --> 00:26:32,470
it to talk about it, we're
talking about it to.

468
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,640
To bring the point up, but the
point also has to be made y'all.

469
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,560
You're not going to take
freshmen.

470
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,240
You're not going to take a guy
who's switching positions and

471
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:45,160
make them elite safeties or very
tight, competent safeties in

472
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,160
less than three games.
Get your heads out your asses if

473
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,640
you're thinking like that.
We don't have Stroman back

474
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,640
there, but people's back there.
People were dogging on people's

475
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,560
earlier this season.
You wish he was there.

476
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:59,920
Now you got to think, don't just
say we need everybody needs to

477
00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:01,600
be fired.
We need to get rid of everybody.

478
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,480
That's not how it works, right,
Sheldon?

479
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,800
You can't develop someone in
three games.

480
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,960
Yeah, I would also add to that
Jalen Jones went to Thomas

481
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,240
Jefferson High School, which is
where near where I live.

482
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:17,560
Shout to the 804, the the
competition level in Richmond

483
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,120
City is not great and also it is
not great at his high school.

484
00:27:21,120 --> 00:27:24,240
So he was very much a
developmental guy that kind of

485
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:25,560
had to come in and learn the
game.

486
00:27:26,120 --> 00:27:28,480
I would assume that his ranking
was because, you know, obviously

487
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,750
he's a really talented athlete.
But he's very much in like that,

488
00:27:31,750 --> 00:27:34,110
that early stage of development.
So this is not a guy where you

489
00:27:34,110 --> 00:27:37,310
can expect him to be, you know,
to be productive 43 games into

490
00:27:37,310 --> 00:27:38,790
his, essentially his collegiate
career.

491
00:27:39,110 --> 00:27:40,750
So there's going to be some
growing things.

492
00:27:42,230 --> 00:27:45,550
All righty.
Another thing that went bad, and

493
00:27:45,550 --> 00:27:49,110
as I look at the statistics here
is we did not get home any.

494
00:27:50,230 --> 00:27:52,910
We did not get one sack.
We were there a couple times.

495
00:27:53,150 --> 00:27:56,630
But I think what sucks even more
is we only had three tackles for

496
00:27:56,630 --> 00:27:59,490
loss.
And Brian, you mentioned this

497
00:27:59,490 --> 00:28:02,090
was a chance to exploit them
there.

498
00:28:02,370 --> 00:28:05,210
We probably should have been
closer to 7:00 to 9:00.

499
00:28:05,450 --> 00:28:08,850
But again, we did miss some
tackles, we missed some fits

500
00:28:08,850 --> 00:28:10,850
where they were getting positive
yards out.

501
00:28:12,770 --> 00:28:16,490
Anything you feel or do y'all
think this was just tally,

502
00:28:16,490 --> 00:28:21,290
Brian, primarily y'all is just
just this is what that system is

503
00:28:21,290 --> 00:28:23,570
like.
If you do the wrong things up

504
00:28:23,570 --> 00:28:25,810
front, even more burn in the
back.

505
00:28:26,230 --> 00:28:30,230
Well, I mean, even just some of
it is, is just how tough you

506
00:28:30,230 --> 00:28:31,430
are.
You know what I'm saying?

507
00:28:31,910 --> 00:28:34,230
Like, you can have the good
videos, you can talk about lunch

508
00:28:34,230 --> 00:28:36,950
bell defense, you can talk about
when it comes down to it.

509
00:28:36,950 --> 00:28:40,190
I think we talked last week when
somebody pulled somebody down, I

510
00:28:40,190 --> 00:28:43,790
think it was Kelly Lawson pulled
somebody down by their jersey

511
00:28:43,790 --> 00:28:47,350
while he was getting blocked.
Like that's just a toughness

512
00:28:47,350 --> 00:28:49,230
plate.
Yeah, you got to be strong to do

513
00:28:49,230 --> 00:28:51,790
that.
But like, that doesn't feel good

514
00:28:51,790 --> 00:28:54,070
to get your fingers wrapped up
in a jersey and pull somebody

515
00:28:54,070 --> 00:28:56,660
down.
But it's just you want it more

516
00:28:56,660 --> 00:28:59,900
than the person that is on the
other side of the ball and some

517
00:28:59,900 --> 00:29:01,620
plays we don't want it more than
them.

518
00:29:01,860 --> 00:29:04,420
When you go against a team like
Rutgers that is coached by their

519
00:29:04,420 --> 00:29:07,180
coach, I mean, everybody knows
that they're going to be,

520
00:29:07,540 --> 00:29:11,100
they're going to be well coached
and tough and that's just how

521
00:29:11,100 --> 00:29:12,460
they played.
They just played physical.

522
00:29:12,460 --> 00:29:15,420
They just were more physical
than us.

523
00:29:16,100 --> 00:29:18,380
I don't know if it's just
because of injuries.

524
00:29:18,380 --> 00:29:20,980
I don't know if it's just
because of youth, but.

525
00:29:21,810 --> 00:29:24,410
We got to get to the point where
we take some stuff personal and

526
00:29:24,410 --> 00:29:29,570
we we go and we produce with
that you know so yeah I see.

527
00:29:29,850 --> 00:29:32,530
I see Andre thank you man.
I see you back.

528
00:29:32,770 --> 00:29:35,370
I'm I'm you know just because
you put that put his put his

529
00:29:35,370 --> 00:29:38,530
quote up right here, man.
Put his put his comment up and

530
00:29:38,530 --> 00:29:45,450
when we said we need urban mind
so I'll just I'll speak on that

531
00:29:45,450 --> 00:29:47,130
for a few minutes man.
I get it.

532
00:29:47,210 --> 00:29:49,410
I get it.
I'm not going to tell you how to

533
00:29:49,410 --> 00:29:51,490
be a fan, what to say, what not
to say.

534
00:29:52,230 --> 00:29:54,670
But I will tell you that ain't
happening.

535
00:29:55,510 --> 00:30:00,710
If you you sit at home and you
fantasize about all this stuff

536
00:30:00,710 --> 00:30:03,390
and think about this stuff, you
will go crazy, man.

537
00:30:03,390 --> 00:30:07,990
My, my DM's and my Twitter goes
crazy every day.

538
00:30:08,110 --> 00:30:10,190
And guess what?
I'll get on there and I'll joke

539
00:30:10,190 --> 00:30:12,270
about it and I'll mess with
people and I'll let them mess

540
00:30:12,270 --> 00:30:14,430
with me.
But when I get off Twitter, I

541
00:30:14,430 --> 00:30:17,150
got a son that plays baseball
who was at the baseball field

542
00:30:17,190 --> 00:30:19,780
all day yesterday.
If I sit around and thought

543
00:30:19,780 --> 00:30:22,140
about Virginia Tech's program, I
would be a depressed

544
00:30:22,140 --> 00:30:25,100
motherfucker.
Like, you got to let it go, man.

545
00:30:25,460 --> 00:30:28,220
You know, I get what you're
saying and I understand where

546
00:30:28,220 --> 00:30:31,300
you're coming from, but I do
also understand how college

547
00:30:31,300 --> 00:30:33,620
football works.
It ain't gonna happen for us,

548
00:30:34,180 --> 00:30:35,900
for us to get where we want to
go.

549
00:30:35,900 --> 00:30:38,660
People say, oh, see, this was
what happened if we brought Dion

550
00:30:38,660 --> 00:30:40,700
in.
Dion ain't coming here.

551
00:30:41,220 --> 00:30:43,100
You can talk about people that
we should have got.

552
00:30:43,100 --> 00:30:45,100
We should have got Shane.
We should have got Kirby Smart.

553
00:30:46,220 --> 00:30:48,450
You don't.
It ain't happening.

554
00:30:48,450 --> 00:30:51,410
We got Brett Pride, and I'm not
saying we got to like him.

555
00:30:51,410 --> 00:30:54,970
I got a lot of questions about
the coaching staff, but I'm not

556
00:30:54,970 --> 00:30:57,290
going to rack my brain about
that coaching staff.

557
00:30:57,730 --> 00:30:59,890
I'm just going to call it.
You said call the spade a spade.

558
00:30:59,890 --> 00:31:03,250
I'm going to call it how I see
it every week, but I'm going to

559
00:31:03,250 --> 00:31:05,850
get my time to vent and then I'm
going to let it go and we're

560
00:31:05,850 --> 00:31:08,410
going to go to the next week and
then if you rack up enough

561
00:31:08,410 --> 00:31:10,010
losses, he's going to be gone
anyway.

562
00:31:10,450 --> 00:31:12,930
I mean, just keeping it real.
I kind of take it back.

563
00:31:12,930 --> 00:31:15,850
I talk about my son a lot
because that's that's.

564
00:31:17,070 --> 00:31:19,510
That's what I watch like.
That's what I equate a lot of

565
00:31:19,510 --> 00:31:22,070
sports to.
My son's team got picked up by a

566
00:31:22,070 --> 00:31:27,310
big travel ball organization and
people don't understand

567
00:31:27,550 --> 00:31:30,910
development anymore.
My son's team, man, I've seen

568
00:31:30,910 --> 00:31:34,470
these kids since they were 7-8
years old.

569
00:31:34,470 --> 00:31:39,030
My son went in the travel ball
and he but they couldn't.

570
00:31:39,190 --> 00:31:41,150
He couldn't throw the ball
across the field, and he was a

571
00:31:41,150 --> 00:31:43,950
good baseball player, but he
couldn't throw the ball from

572
00:31:43,990 --> 00:31:46,350
from first to third without
bouncing.

573
00:31:47,030 --> 00:31:50,910
And it's just that cultures have
been with them since, like I

574
00:31:50,910 --> 00:31:54,270
said, seven or eight years old.
And now these get these kids are

575
00:31:54,270 --> 00:31:55,870
getting bigger, they're getting
stronger.

576
00:31:56,150 --> 00:31:59,870
And we show up to this.
We show up to this tournament

577
00:31:59,870 --> 00:32:02,590
down in in Birmingham.
If you guys ever get a chance to

578
00:32:02,590 --> 00:32:05,790
go to Rick Woodfield in
Birmingham, it is in the ghetto,

579
00:32:05,910 --> 00:32:09,350
it is in the hood.
It is scary when you turn on 3rd

580
00:32:09,350 --> 00:32:11,430
Ave.
When you have to pull in them

581
00:32:11,430 --> 00:32:13,910
barbed wire fences, it looks a
little shaky.

582
00:32:14,150 --> 00:32:19,430
But when you get inside that
facility and you go see that

583
00:32:19,430 --> 00:32:22,790
field, that what the old Negro
League games were played, man,

584
00:32:22,790 --> 00:32:24,270
it's just does something to you,
man.

585
00:32:24,270 --> 00:32:27,950
It's an awesome, awesome venue,
you know, And I was so happy

586
00:32:28,190 --> 00:32:30,310
that those kids got to play
there and we played against a

587
00:32:30,310 --> 00:32:33,470
couple of Hoover teams, which,
you know, it's pretty much home

588
00:32:33,470 --> 00:32:34,870
games for them.
We also played at.

589
00:32:37,380 --> 00:32:40,220
Birmingham Southern College.
But anyway, so those Hoover

590
00:32:40,220 --> 00:32:42,540
teams are pretty much at home
and they've never seen our kids.

591
00:32:42,540 --> 00:32:45,500
Our kids don't count.
Our kids don't go to All Star

592
00:32:45,500 --> 00:32:48,300
Games.
They had never seen us.

593
00:32:48,300 --> 00:32:49,940
We just showed up and it was
like, who is this team?

594
00:32:50,220 --> 00:32:53,420
We were the only team that went
undefeated and we kicked

595
00:32:53,420 --> 00:32:56,820
everybody's ass and we were much
better than everybody we played.

596
00:32:57,220 --> 00:33:00,780
So I take that back to the
Virginia Tech program.

597
00:33:01,020 --> 00:33:02,980
Sometimes you just got to
develop, man.

598
00:33:03,380 --> 00:33:05,180
And I ain't saying just trust
the process.

599
00:33:05,710 --> 00:33:07,270
You got to be in the process.
You got to.

600
00:33:07,550 --> 00:33:09,710
You got to when you're mad.
You got to let the coaches know

601
00:33:09,750 --> 00:33:12,070
it's okay to tweet.
Hey, I don't like that.

602
00:33:12,350 --> 00:33:13,630
Maybe they'll see it and change
it.

603
00:33:14,030 --> 00:33:16,270
We've been crying about the
quarterback for how long?

604
00:33:16,470 --> 00:33:18,390
We got to see drones and we like
what we see.

605
00:33:18,390 --> 00:33:20,590
So hang in there, man.
Hang in there.

606
00:33:20,590 --> 00:33:22,750
Don't let it.
Don't let it tell your day up.

607
00:33:22,750 --> 00:33:25,510
Don't let it tell your week up.
Let it go about Sunday

608
00:33:25,510 --> 00:33:26,750
afternoon.
Go ahead, Curtis.

609
00:33:26,870 --> 00:33:30,390
I'm getting ready to say I don't
know what we would have done 35

610
00:33:30,390 --> 00:33:34,050
years ago.
The Frank years go Look at

611
00:33:34,050 --> 00:33:36,210
Frank's record.
Y'all up to 1993.

612
00:33:36,690 --> 00:33:39,130
Some of y'all would have
probably jumped off a building

613
00:33:39,330 --> 00:33:42,850
some of those years, 2:00 and
9:00 and all that, and not went

614
00:33:42,850 --> 00:33:46,850
having one winning season up
from 1987 to 1993.

615
00:33:47,530 --> 00:33:49,810
I know it's a different store.
It's a different time, it's a

616
00:33:49,810 --> 00:33:52,770
different place.
But know that.

617
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,160
Everybody has their down and
tally.

618
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:56,360
You've been mentioning them a
lot.

619
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:57,640
And I'm going to just say it one
second.

620
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,280
Go look at where Florida State
was just a handful of years ago.

621
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,160
Yes, I know they get more elite
talent, but Norvell has also

622
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,960
developed that talent.
He got a lot of talented guys

623
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:10,880
and he's developed them.
All right, Brian, what else went

624
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:17,000
bad from your perspective?
This is Offensive Line podcast,

625
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,679
right?
This is an offensive line

626
00:34:18,679 --> 00:34:19,360
podcast.
It is.

627
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:20,000
All right.
All right.

628
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:27,020
So I will say something bold.
It's not bold, it's right.

629
00:34:27,020 --> 00:34:31,460
Say it in that opinion I I you
know he was getting a lot of

630
00:34:31,460 --> 00:34:35,900
props in the all season about
being improved and being healthy

631
00:34:35,900 --> 00:34:39,699
and all this other stuff.
Parker Clements is an absolute

632
00:34:39,699 --> 00:34:41,460
liability and right title right
now.

633
00:34:43,060 --> 00:34:44,420
Charlie.
And you watched the tape from

634
00:34:44,420 --> 00:34:45,739
yesterday, right?
You didn't just.

635
00:34:45,739 --> 00:34:46,980
This isn't just.
Yeah, I was.

636
00:34:46,980 --> 00:34:49,940
I watched the tape.
This is not just live, this is

637
00:34:50,179 --> 00:34:52,940
not I've I've watched everything
at least twice.

638
00:34:55,219 --> 00:34:57,100
His feet are lazy.
In the run game.

639
00:34:57,139 --> 00:34:58,900
He doesn't really bring his
hands well.

640
00:35:00,980 --> 00:35:04,500
He often looks like he doesn't
know what he's doing in the run

641
00:35:04,500 --> 00:35:09,100
game, especially in something
that's not zone like any

642
00:35:09,100 --> 00:35:13,340
anything that has gap scheme.
He just looks lost, which

643
00:35:13,340 --> 00:35:15,940
explains a lot of last year and
most of this year.

644
00:35:18,580 --> 00:35:23,860
So I'm just I'm ready to see a
mix up whether that's.

645
00:35:24,700 --> 00:35:27,140
If you don't lose shit, go down
fighting.

646
00:35:27,700 --> 00:35:30,020
Yeah, let's.
Park the Clemens.

647
00:35:30,580 --> 00:35:33,300
Change it.
Hey man, you look cool.

648
00:35:34,140 --> 00:35:37,260
You had a cool looking bid one
time on a on a on a picture.

649
00:35:37,980 --> 00:35:41,060
Royal King probably has a great
place for you to work.

650
00:35:42,170 --> 00:35:44,010
Y'all need to be at right tackle
right now.

651
00:35:44,170 --> 00:35:47,050
Sorry buddy.
Hopefully you watch this podcast

652
00:35:47,050 --> 00:35:49,570
and you say fuck that dude, I'm
going to go out here and show

653
00:35:49,570 --> 00:35:52,970
him and you plaster my face on
the other team's helmet and you

654
00:35:52,970 --> 00:35:56,370
go and run through that helmet.
But I need to be the

655
00:35:56,370 --> 00:35:59,530
visualization like.
What I don't need you to do like

656
00:35:59,570 --> 00:36:00,290
if I get.
Water in here.

657
00:36:00,770 --> 00:36:04,610
Visualize me talking shit.
About it, We don't need to get

658
00:36:04,610 --> 00:36:07,130
behind your guard and give him
the Hamlet maneuver ever again.

659
00:36:07,930 --> 00:36:11,900
We just want you to block man.
But it's not just him, man.

660
00:36:11,900 --> 00:36:15,340
Our line has to get better.
But Brian, like you, I knew you

661
00:36:15,340 --> 00:36:16,940
were going when you said this
was bold.

662
00:36:17,940 --> 00:36:19,740
It's not that bold, man.
It's right.

663
00:36:20,340 --> 00:36:22,060
He's he's got to be better.
I know.

664
00:36:22,060 --> 00:36:23,220
Sheldon.
Sheldon, I'm not trying to put

665
00:36:23,220 --> 00:36:24,540
you on the spot.
You don't have to look nothing

666
00:36:24,540 --> 00:36:26,620
up.
You probably can just look at

667
00:36:26,620 --> 00:36:28,580
the camera and say, yeah, he's
pretty bad.

668
00:36:29,260 --> 00:36:31,780
He's his scores have to be
horrible, man.

669
00:36:32,820 --> 00:36:36,500
I think Brody Meadows came in
and played much better than than

670
00:36:36,580 --> 00:36:39,250
a lot of people on our line.
Just mix it up.

671
00:36:39,410 --> 00:36:41,170
Let's mix it up.
Let's see some different stuff,

672
00:36:42,090 --> 00:36:43,850
because what we're doing is not
working.

673
00:36:44,130 --> 00:36:46,730
What is that grade by the way?
Shell and I mean I just just for

674
00:36:47,170 --> 00:36:49,170
confirmation.
I mean, I don't, I don't even

675
00:36:49,170 --> 00:36:50,370
know.
Like I hadn't paid too much

676
00:36:50,370 --> 00:36:52,330
attention to oh, line grades
because I feel like there's no

677
00:36:52,330 --> 00:36:54,450
point because you can just tell
the eye tests they're not

678
00:36:55,410 --> 00:36:56,730
they're not getting it done.
And that's.

679
00:36:56,730 --> 00:36:58,170
I mean to me that's an eye test
position.

680
00:36:58,170 --> 00:37:01,210
Like you can just tell they're
not the footwork is the footwork

681
00:37:01,210 --> 00:37:02,850
is bad.
The angles are bad.

682
00:37:02,850 --> 00:37:05,410
The, you know, the speed.
They're just they're just not

683
00:37:05,410 --> 00:37:06,690
getting the job done like they
can.

684
00:37:06,770 --> 00:37:09,410
And some of the plays too like.
If we block them up, right?

685
00:37:09,450 --> 00:37:12,010
I mean there there'd be some big
gainers in there, but they just

686
00:37:12,010 --> 00:37:13,490
can't.
They're just not playing a sign

687
00:37:13,490 --> 00:37:16,490
of football.
And right now Drones is the

688
00:37:16,490 --> 00:37:19,770
Band-Aid to the offensive line.
It's again why you need from

689
00:37:19,770 --> 00:37:24,570
averaging 1A carry to almost 3
1/2 right now.

690
00:37:24,570 --> 00:37:27,690
I'm I'm going to take 3 1/2 all
day because it's a semblance of

691
00:37:27,690 --> 00:37:29,890
an offense.
It's a semblance of a third and

692
00:37:29,890 --> 00:37:33,810
two you might actually get it.
But I think to y'all's point.

693
00:37:33,930 --> 00:37:36,210
And and like, you know, you're
mentioning bad angles and stuff,

694
00:37:36,210 --> 00:37:38,550
Sheldon.
It comes to a point in time.

695
00:37:38,550 --> 00:37:42,030
Right now we've got 3 two young
guys on the line.

696
00:37:43,190 --> 00:37:46,110
It comes to a point where it's
like we've just got to keep

697
00:37:46,110 --> 00:37:48,750
trying these young guys.
Because if if there is not that

698
00:37:48,750 --> 00:37:51,910
big of a difference in the gap
between what Parker's doing and

699
00:37:51,910 --> 00:37:55,550
what Brody's doing or you know,
if we talked about, I know it's

700
00:37:55,550 --> 00:37:59,430
been mentioned, Jack Hollyfield,
shout out Michael Yost, put

701
00:37:59,430 --> 00:38:01,990
Hollyfield, Senator, get Kate
Moore back to his guard position

702
00:38:02,030 --> 00:38:05,600
where you know he can be and put
Brody at right tackle.

703
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,000
And put Brody at right tackle.
What's it going to hurt?

704
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,400
You're one and two right now,
and you see where your struggles

705
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:15,120
are and you know that is what it
is.

706
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,800
Part of the thing, that part of
the thing that we wanted to see

707
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:22,480
last year was we just wanted to
see somebody actually fight for

708
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:23,720
the job.
You know what I'm saying?

709
00:38:23,720 --> 00:38:26,600
Like everybody kind of felt
like, you know, Grant Wells

710
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,040
didn't.
He didn't just had a fire body,

711
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,520
you know what I'm saying?
Just like I know I'm going to be

712
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,550
the starter.
I'm all we got.

713
00:38:34,550 --> 00:38:37,350
It is what it is.
If I mess up, like scare

714
00:38:37,350 --> 00:38:39,590
somebody, you know, hey, you're
not playing no more.

715
00:38:39,590 --> 00:38:42,950
We playing the young guys.
You know, sometimes competition

716
00:38:42,950 --> 00:38:48,350
breeds some.
I mean, it's going freaking make

717
00:38:48,350 --> 00:38:50,510
a diamond or bust a pipe there.
You go.

718
00:38:51,190 --> 00:38:54,270
Let's, let's see what we let's
see what we can find.

719
00:38:54,590 --> 00:38:57,830
Let's see what we can find, man,
tell them, Hey, sit out for a

720
00:38:57,830 --> 00:39:00,070
couple of you going to sit out.
You going to stand over here

721
00:39:00,070 --> 00:39:01,630
with me and watch somebody else
do it?

722
00:39:02,170 --> 00:39:04,530
And then rotate them back in.
I just need to see something

723
00:39:04,930 --> 00:39:08,290
something picks up, man.
Because and again like Curtis

724
00:39:08,290 --> 00:39:12,850
has been saying the whole time,
I mean the offensive line is

725
00:39:12,970 --> 00:39:16,610
atrocious, man is I don't even
know what to say.

726
00:39:16,610 --> 00:39:20,490
Like watching some stuff.
From my standpoint, being a a

727
00:39:20,490 --> 00:39:25,170
tight end like our tight ends
aren't great at blocking but

728
00:39:25,170 --> 00:39:27,250
they're blocking better than the
line sometimes.

729
00:39:27,650 --> 00:39:29,930
Like it's just it's no hard in
blocking so.

730
00:39:30,670 --> 00:39:33,110
Yeah, we can go on and on about
that, but we ain't got that much

731
00:39:33,110 --> 00:39:35,310
time.
We we we don't we could go on

732
00:39:35,310 --> 00:39:37,990
and on but until we see
something different on the field

733
00:39:37,990 --> 00:39:41,030
we we continue to address it
under this section because

734
00:39:41,350 --> 00:39:44,950
realistically is the only thing
that can be done now is they're

735
00:39:45,390 --> 00:39:47,790
going to be they're going to be
here until we they're average

736
00:39:47,830 --> 00:39:51,110
over 4 yards carry.
To Shay Wes Osborne.

737
00:39:51,110 --> 00:39:53,870
Yes, we need a flex seal for the
offensive line, but they're

738
00:39:54,230 --> 00:39:56,830
going to probably be in this
section until until they average

739
00:39:56,830 --> 00:39:59,710
over 4 yards of carry.
So until they're average over 4

740
00:39:59,710 --> 00:40:01,290
yards of carry.
They're going to be in this

741
00:40:01,290 --> 00:40:02,370
section.
Then they're going to be in this

742
00:40:02,370 --> 00:40:05,050
section all year.
I say if we can stick it 3 1/2

743
00:40:05,050 --> 00:40:08,810
for multiple weeks we take them
out of the section because the 3

744
00:40:08,810 --> 00:40:12,050
1/2 if you run it 3 * 3 1/2
yards you get a first down.

745
00:40:12,450 --> 00:40:14,810
Yes Sir, we're averaging 4.
That means we're probably going

746
00:40:14,810 --> 00:40:17,570
over 150 a game, which is
exactly where you want to be.

747
00:40:17,650 --> 00:40:20,730
At a minimum we went 130 week.
On the drones, think if the

748
00:40:20,730 --> 00:40:24,050
meshes get better.
Think if the passing gets

749
00:40:24,050 --> 00:40:27,740
better, the lanes will open.
All right, we we've hit this

750
00:40:27,740 --> 00:40:30,100
already a little bit.
But did anything happen?

751
00:40:30,100 --> 00:40:33,100
We're not prepared for.
And I I got our our buddy David

752
00:40:33,100 --> 00:40:39,020
Cunningham's Twitter up from
Saturday night, 2 deep injuries.

753
00:40:39,620 --> 00:40:41,340
There are 22 people in the 2
deep.

754
00:40:41,340 --> 00:40:44,060
So somebody do the math.
Wells is hurt.

755
00:40:44,980 --> 00:40:46,940
Jennings is hurt.
Lane is hurt.

756
00:40:47,260 --> 00:40:49,980
Tisdale is out and then hurt.
Kianta Jenkins is hurt.

757
00:40:50,140 --> 00:40:52,220
That's your people's is hurt.
Stroman's hurt.

758
00:40:52,220 --> 00:40:53,660
We knew right.
Has been banged up.

759
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,800
Y'all, that's a third.
That's a third of your two deep

760
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:04,080
good teams who have developed
and have good players could

761
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:08,080
potentially be struggling.
If you have a third of your two

762
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,640
deep banged up, I don't even
think that's a question.

763
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,000
You haven't even mentioned
Burgos with his shoulder.

764
00:41:14,430 --> 00:41:17,430
Yeah, but he's playing at least.
Yeah, but I'm saying you didn't

765
00:41:17,430 --> 00:41:19,430
mention that.
So yeah, hard to be effective

766
00:41:19,430 --> 00:41:21,390
with you.
All right, now we at 9:00, we

767
00:41:21,390 --> 00:41:23,950
about to get to half of the two
deepest injured in.

768
00:41:24,030 --> 00:41:26,150
Some way, shape or form?
Hold on.

769
00:41:26,230 --> 00:41:29,550
Wait a SEC.
Galloway's 10, Gallows 10.

770
00:41:29,830 --> 00:41:31,710
Yeah.
Did you mention people's?

771
00:41:32,230 --> 00:41:35,550
I didn't mention people's.
People, Holloway's nicked.

772
00:41:35,550 --> 00:41:37,150
I think he's still out there
doing things though.

773
00:41:37,350 --> 00:41:41,110
Yeah, it is crazy, man.
It is crazy to injured but but

774
00:41:41,110 --> 00:41:43,430
it's football, you know, It's
like you can never.

775
00:41:45,170 --> 00:41:47,930
Know who's going to be injured
and how to prepare for it.

776
00:41:47,930 --> 00:41:51,250
But it sucks that it always
happens in Virginia Tech.

777
00:41:52,970 --> 00:41:55,890
It sucks, man.
And it's only the 4th.

778
00:41:55,890 --> 00:41:58,290
Like we're going to the fourth
game of the season and we're

779
00:41:58,290 --> 00:41:59,690
talking about them and we don't
know.

780
00:41:59,690 --> 00:42:02,770
We don't know what, where these
people are going to make.

781
00:42:02,770 --> 00:42:05,530
Curtis talked.
I don't know if it was the

782
00:42:05,530 --> 00:42:08,290
first, if it was the first show
of the season, or maybe the

783
00:42:08,290 --> 00:42:10,330
second when Curtis talked about
that going.

784
00:42:11,220 --> 00:42:16,780
Maybe it was a rule to implement
and talking about the the injury

785
00:42:16,780 --> 00:42:19,020
report.
Yeah, we talked about if it

786
00:42:19,020 --> 00:42:21,700
would, if it would, you know
affect like people knowing the

787
00:42:21,700 --> 00:42:24,580
NIL stuff, we yes, tell us who
hurt.

788
00:42:25,220 --> 00:42:26,700
So we can just go here to
prepare.

789
00:42:27,380 --> 00:42:29,580
Let me know before the game
who's going to play and who

790
00:42:29,580 --> 00:42:32,500
ain't like these depth charts
that don't really tell you the.

791
00:42:32,580 --> 00:42:35,420
Story No no.
Don't even release one.

792
00:42:35,420 --> 00:42:37,740
Don't even Where's Pete B's
tweet about that?

793
00:42:37,740 --> 00:42:38,940
Where's Pete B's tweet about
put?

794
00:42:39,020 --> 00:42:42,780
Pull that shit out of it.
Pete B, My boy Pete B has been

795
00:42:42,780 --> 00:42:44,980
fighting more than me on Twitter
like.

796
00:42:44,980 --> 00:42:49,780
He has been fighting and he's.
Been I was Pete B.

797
00:42:50,580 --> 00:42:54,940
You are a PR nightmare, Sir.
When you're worse than talent,

798
00:42:54,940 --> 00:42:57,860
you it's bad.
Well, the one that got me from

799
00:42:57,860 --> 00:42:58,780
Pete.
I love Pete.

800
00:42:59,540 --> 00:43:01,800
We chat.
When when Pete said this is the

801
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,280
worst loss he'd ever saw, I
literally went Dude, where were

802
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,640
you at 98 Temple.
That is the worst loss in

803
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:16,040
program history.
OK, you got to collapse over

804
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:17,160
here.
All right, pull it down real

805
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:18,280
quick.
I'm going to address this.

806
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:22,680
Then don't put anything out.
Don't put it out.

807
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,000
You got to put that doubt.
Leave us.

808
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:30,640
In the dark.
That's definitely so much.

809
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,680
Really, I don't know what else.
Because we talked about, you

810
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,800
know, not taking away their
Russian attack, they went for

811
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:41,000
256 on us.
But again, I think we're slowly

812
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,760
getting to the point where this
section gets smaller and smaller

813
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:47,320
every week because you do start
seeing things.

814
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:52,120
The only thing I hope is that
within the next few games we

815
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,880
start having.
Positives here, right?

816
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,680
Yeah.
Well, if we can learn to run the

817
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:01,800
football more effectively and if
we can learn to stop the rush

818
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:07,480
more effectively, then these two
middle sections will get

819
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:11,640
smaller, right?
I mean because most of these

820
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:17,400
middle sections are either stuff
that we're struggling with

821
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:21,460
mightily, which is those two
things or things like injuries,

822
00:44:21,460 --> 00:44:26,740
which some we can control, some
we you know we try to mitigate

823
00:44:26,740 --> 00:44:29,100
but we may not be able to
understand the, the, the full

824
00:44:29,100 --> 00:44:32,780
scope of what the ask is until
we get into the the thick of it,

825
00:44:32,780 --> 00:44:34,180
right.
So that's that's we're talking

826
00:44:34,180 --> 00:44:38,300
about the run game.
So it's going to be interesting

827
00:44:38,300 --> 00:44:42,220
to see how we pivot this week
and what, what sort of

828
00:44:42,220 --> 00:44:46,100
adjustments we make, especially
if the guys at safety are not

829
00:44:46,100 --> 00:44:48,740
able to go this week.
That's gonna be a real issue,

830
00:44:48,740 --> 00:44:50,340
Sheldon.
Anything else you want to add

831
00:44:50,340 --> 00:44:52,260
here?
You have been very quiet in this

832
00:44:52,260 --> 00:44:54,180
section, so I'm going to give
you the floor for a couple

833
00:44:54,180 --> 00:44:55,820
minutes here.
Yeah.

834
00:44:55,820 --> 00:44:59,020
You know, The thing is, I think
for me it's hard to really judge

835
00:44:59,020 --> 00:45:02,060
the efficacy of our defensive
backs because they just haven't

836
00:45:02,060 --> 00:45:04,100
been tested.
I was looking at this number

837
00:45:04,100 --> 00:45:07,540
before we got on because I
wanted to confirm Tech has the

838
00:45:07,540 --> 00:45:10,580
10th highest opponent rushing
rate in the country.

839
00:45:11,020 --> 00:45:13,620
So basically the game plan for
offenses against tech is just

840
00:45:13,620 --> 00:45:16,340
run or run and we kind of seen
that throughout the course this

841
00:45:16,340 --> 00:45:18,090
season.
I mean, I don't know if I could

842
00:45:18,090 --> 00:45:19,890
explain this right away if
someone who knows more about the

843
00:45:19,890 --> 00:45:22,490
exit and nose could like you
know, articulate this better.

844
00:45:22,490 --> 00:45:24,890
But when you watch these
linebackers and safeties, they

845
00:45:24,890 --> 00:45:27,850
just, they aren't looking at
where the ball is or where it's

846
00:45:27,850 --> 00:45:30,330
going to be.
And Brian mentioned talk about

847
00:45:30,330 --> 00:45:32,530
the bad angles.
I don't think they're just

848
00:45:32,530 --> 00:45:35,970
they're just not anticipating
right and it's an experience

849
00:45:35,970 --> 00:45:38,970
problem.
It's, I think it's also partly,

850
00:45:38,970 --> 00:45:40,610
you know, there's some
physicality too, like obviously

851
00:45:40,610 --> 00:45:43,890
the linebackers have sometimes
run themselves out of position.

852
00:45:44,290 --> 00:45:46,210
But even when the arm position,
I think they're just getting, I

853
00:45:46,210 --> 00:45:49,370
mean they're getting beat up
physically now maybe that's, you

854
00:45:49,370 --> 00:45:51,450
know, a strength problem.
They need a couple of years in

855
00:45:51,450 --> 00:45:53,650
the weight room.
But you've got a lot of, you

856
00:45:53,650 --> 00:45:55,930
know, tall linking, athletic
guys out there, linebacker,

857
00:45:56,210 --> 00:45:59,010
bunch of, you know, converted
safeties and not a lot of guys

858
00:45:59,010 --> 00:46:01,370
that are, you know, big and
strong like a prototypical Brent

859
00:46:01,370 --> 00:46:05,370
pie Mike linebacker.
So it's just a combination of

860
00:46:05,810 --> 00:46:08,410
poor assignments, you know, not
having the right, the right

861
00:46:08,730 --> 00:46:11,250
athletes out there and just
using an experience.

862
00:46:11,250 --> 00:46:13,730
So lots of lots of things to
correct for sure.

863
00:46:15,110 --> 00:46:16,830
All righty.
Well, we hope we can get into

864
00:46:16,830 --> 00:46:19,110
that.
Now, here's we got the laundry

865
00:46:19,110 --> 00:46:21,790
list of things going on because
now we're going to go what to do

866
00:46:21,790 --> 00:46:24,350
better moving forward.
And that's actually longer than

867
00:46:24,350 --> 00:46:25,750
anything we've discussed
tonight.

868
00:46:25,910 --> 00:46:27,750
Now I'm going to take the first
one here.

869
00:46:27,950 --> 00:46:30,510
We already mentioned it once and
I'm going to go to a little

870
00:46:30,510 --> 00:46:34,670
something that I read, didn't
like and then I listened to

871
00:46:34,670 --> 00:46:37,950
something We're going to we need
to stick with countering drones.

872
00:46:37,950 --> 00:46:40,590
I think everybody here agrees.
I think most of hokey notion

873
00:46:40,590 --> 00:46:43,520
agrees.
But if you listened, not

874
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,520
listened.
If you read some transcripts

875
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,920
from people putting things on
Twitter Saturday night and

876
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:52,800
Sunday morning about the Brent
Pry practice conference, you

877
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,520
probably were under the
impression that Brent Bry said

878
00:46:56,520 --> 00:47:01,560
we needed Grant Wells back.
I saw that and I was like,

879
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,800
that's an unusual statement,
especially the way Kyron played.

880
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,920
Kyron played pretty well to be a
first time starter on the road

881
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,910
against the top 25 defense.
So I decided to listen to the

882
00:47:12,910 --> 00:47:16,870
full interview and things were
taken completely out of context.

883
00:47:16,870 --> 00:47:19,350
First of all, did he have some
critiques of Conor?

884
00:47:19,350 --> 00:47:21,790
Yes, he did.
He did, absolutely.

885
00:47:21,830 --> 00:47:23,630
But that was way at the front of
the interview.

886
00:47:24,390 --> 00:47:29,750
That minute two or three, the
comments about Grant Wells were

887
00:47:29,750 --> 00:47:32,510
as follows.
And this is what people left out

888
00:47:32,510 --> 00:47:34,990
they he said, and this was all
the quotes on Twitter.

889
00:47:35,790 --> 00:47:40,610
We need Grant Wells back.
How many people did y'all see

890
00:47:40,610 --> 00:47:43,650
lose their ever loving minds
when they saw that?

891
00:47:43,850 --> 00:47:46,610
Because what they did is they
put the critiques of Cairo and

892
00:47:46,850 --> 00:47:48,490
then they layered it on top of
that.

893
00:47:49,170 --> 00:47:51,530
Actually, this is what Coach
Price said.

894
00:47:52,050 --> 00:47:55,450
Regardless of our quarterback
situation, we need Grant back

895
00:47:56,010 --> 00:47:59,490
and I absolutely agree with that
because right now Pop Watson is

896
00:47:59,490 --> 00:48:05,570
5 foot 11185 pounds.
He is a small, small, true

897
00:48:05,570 --> 00:48:09,880
freshman quarterback.
I hear that and I'm saying Brent

898
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:13,520
Pride's mind is regardless what
happens at the quarterback room,

899
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,480
I need 2 quarterbacks that can
play.

900
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:20,240
Because if we are going to run
Kyron drones 20 * a game, he's

901
00:48:20,240 --> 00:48:21,800
probably going to get popped
once.

902
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,440
And we're going to need someone
that is as much as if you want

903
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,480
to bust Wells all you want
busing.

904
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,320
But he could go out there and
manage a game for a couple

905
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,040
series that that that irritated
me.

906
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,480
Because as soon as I listen to
it, I send it to all three of

907
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,440
these gentleman, I'm like,
listen, make sure I'm not losing

908
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,720
my damn mind.
Because that irritated me.

909
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,360
And a lot of people were up in
arms losing their damn mind

910
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,960
saying fire him now.
It's like he didn't say that

911
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:50,160
though listen to the interview.
So for everybody listening

912
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:55,160
tonight, next week, don't look
at Twitter, go to hokey athletic

913
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:58,760
page, pull up the interview.
Usually it's about 7 to 10

914
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,950
minutes.
Go on your air pods and listen

915
00:49:00,950 --> 00:49:02,990
to it.
Then you actually hear his words

916
00:49:02,990 --> 00:49:06,510
verbatim versus someone chopping
and screwing things and

917
00:49:06,510 --> 00:49:09,790
definitely looking for clicks.
Don't have the floor now.

918
00:49:11,630 --> 00:49:17,070
Curtis Curtis fired up.
That fires me up because you can

919
00:49:17,070 --> 00:49:20,310
easily twist something and get
people upset and get people

920
00:49:20,310 --> 00:49:22,350
angry.
We were already on tilt come

921
00:49:22,350 --> 00:49:26,070
Saturday night after the loss.
Put that shit out there like

922
00:49:26,070 --> 00:49:29,490
that the way it was worded.
He thinks, tire and stuff.

923
00:49:29,690 --> 00:49:31,970
No, he doesn't.
And y'all.

924
00:49:32,970 --> 00:49:35,370
I will say he did say that threw
me.

925
00:49:35,370 --> 00:49:37,090
I ain't going to say it threw me
off because I mean it's.

926
00:49:38,050 --> 00:49:40,810
I understand the comment because
I play football and I play

927
00:49:40,810 --> 00:49:42,890
sports and it sounds like
something I tell my son.

928
00:49:43,250 --> 00:49:46,490
He said he was inconsistent.
We got to get better at being

929
00:49:46,530 --> 00:49:49,170
consistent.
When you have a first time

930
00:49:49,170 --> 00:49:53,250
starter, I just feel.
And again, Brent, Brent Pride is

931
00:49:53,250 --> 00:49:55,250
very, very candid and high.
He speaks.

932
00:49:55,750 --> 00:49:59,150
Which is great when you're
interviewing him and when he's

933
00:49:59,150 --> 00:50:00,670
out talking and things like
that.

934
00:50:00,670 --> 00:50:04,030
I think he has to do a little
bit different job or find a

935
00:50:04,030 --> 00:50:06,710
little bit different way to
handle some of the stuff.

936
00:50:06,990 --> 00:50:09,670
Because when you have like a
first time starter like Kyra

937
00:50:09,670 --> 00:50:13,750
Drones, I don't feel that he's
got that full embrace of the

938
00:50:13,750 --> 00:50:18,550
team and of the coaching staff
and even of the fans for him to

939
00:50:18,550 --> 00:50:21,470
go and perform yet.
You know, I'd like to see Brent

940
00:50:21,470 --> 00:50:23,150
take him under his wing a little
bit and.

941
00:50:23,610 --> 00:50:26,770
And and and say, hey, we this
kid, we won't work with him.

942
00:50:27,130 --> 00:50:30,250
We're going and he said a little
bit of this, but you know

943
00:50:30,250 --> 00:50:33,050
leading up into the game it was
never, you know, hey, Kyron's

944
00:50:33,050 --> 00:50:36,810
our guy.
We going, we going go out there

945
00:50:36,810 --> 00:50:40,050
with him and whatever he's got,
we got full confidence that he's

946
00:50:40,050 --> 00:50:42,650
going to go get it done.
All we heard was well, it may be

947
00:50:42,650 --> 00:50:47,930
Grant Wells like we haven't got
that full endorsement of Kyron,

948
00:50:47,930 --> 00:50:50,930
drones to go and be the starter
and lead the team.

949
00:50:51,290 --> 00:50:53,090
I think he came in and did a
great job.

950
00:50:53,550 --> 00:50:58,390
For what it was, you know.
But I would just like for him

951
00:50:58,430 --> 00:51:00,190
just to get a little bit more
endorsement.

952
00:51:00,750 --> 00:51:02,230
That's it.
And now I'm on this.

953
00:51:02,230 --> 00:51:04,790
Let me since Curtis wants to
have a little rant, can I have a

954
00:51:04,790 --> 00:51:07,950
little rant for a minute?
Because somebody did on Twitter

955
00:51:07,950 --> 00:51:09,750
and I got to go.
I got to talk about it a little

956
00:51:09,750 --> 00:51:13,550
bit.
So somebody waits till Monday

957
00:51:13,550 --> 00:51:16,670
morning again.
Everybody watching this.

958
00:51:16,990 --> 00:51:18,550
I just told y'all how to
operate.

959
00:51:18,950 --> 00:51:20,750
Yeah, we record on Tuesdays
today.

960
00:51:20,750 --> 00:51:23,580
We doing it on Monday.
This is what we do for fun.

961
00:51:24,100 --> 00:51:25,500
We are not getting paid by the
school.

962
00:51:26,300 --> 00:51:28,020
These guys that are on here are
my brothers.

963
00:51:28,140 --> 00:51:30,820
This is what we do.
We talk all the time about

964
00:51:30,820 --> 00:51:33,500
Virginia Tech athletics.
We talk all the time about

965
00:51:33,500 --> 00:51:36,700
football in general.
We watch a lot of sports.

966
00:51:37,100 --> 00:51:40,900
But what somebody thought would
be cool to do was to go on

967
00:51:40,900 --> 00:51:45,180
Twitter and tag Boundary Quantum
podcast and tag Talibans and say

968
00:51:45,660 --> 00:51:50,540
this guy said the staff is
racist and if y'all are going to

969
00:51:50,580 --> 00:51:52,680
back him.
I'm never listening to your show

970
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,600
again.
That's fucking bullshit.

971
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,680
And if you never want to listen
to me again, fucking don't

972
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:00,680
listen.
But if you're going to record

973
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:04,360
something I say, or you're going
to quote something I say, please

974
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,360
make sure you dig and you find
out exactly what I said.

975
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:11,040
My comments were never that the
staff was racist and that they

976
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:14,280
didn't like black people.
My comments were there are

977
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,720
politics in football.
I would like to know who is

978
00:52:17,720 --> 00:52:19,200
helping with the decision
making.

979
00:52:19,740 --> 00:52:21,660
That's that's where that comment
came from.

980
00:52:21,980 --> 00:52:25,940
Then I caveat of that by saying
I live in Alabama.

981
00:52:25,940 --> 00:52:29,260
The people here are very blatant
when they are racist.

982
00:52:29,340 --> 00:52:33,020
That's what I said.
I said the fans here, if they

983
00:52:33,020 --> 00:52:35,180
don't want a quarterback,
they're going to tell me exactly

984
00:52:35,180 --> 00:52:38,260
why they don't want him.
That's what I said.

985
00:52:38,700 --> 00:52:40,980
Never said that Brett Pride's
been on this show.

986
00:52:41,380 --> 00:52:42,820
And if I thought he was racist,
I wouldn't have.

987
00:52:42,820 --> 00:52:44,460
I don't got to have a
conversation with him.

988
00:52:44,620 --> 00:52:46,140
He don't have to have a
conversation with me.

989
00:52:46,340 --> 00:52:50,300
But for somebody to go and try
to cherry pick a comment and try

990
00:52:50,300 --> 00:52:52,820
to think that they're going to
do anything to what we got going

991
00:52:52,820 --> 00:52:54,340
on here, let me tell you what
you can do.

992
00:52:54,340 --> 00:52:57,100
I ain't going to even go there.
I'm just going to tell you to

993
00:52:57,100 --> 00:52:58,540
have a nice day because it's a
new week.

994
00:52:59,380 --> 00:53:02,900
That's.
All I got to say, but in all

995
00:53:02,900 --> 00:53:05,140
seriousness, what?
What?

996
00:53:05,220 --> 00:53:07,980
What?
That Twitter user 123, whatever

997
00:53:07,980 --> 00:53:10,800
his name is.
What you thought was saying or

998
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:14,680
what you tried to make a big
thing that would say it, A lot

999
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,320
of people listen to us and
that's why everybody jumped on

1000
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,640
your ass and that's why you had
to back off of Twitter.

1001
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:21,640
Sometimes you just got to log
out.

1002
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:23,720
Because if you waited till
Monday morning, that was near

1003
00:53:23,720 --> 00:53:26,280
and dear, in your heart you
didn't listen good enough.

1004
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,040
You just took that and you
didn't go to church.

1005
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:29,640
Go to church, man.
Pray about that stuff.

1006
00:53:30,240 --> 00:53:32,840
All right, Siegel.
Sheldon, this is this is clearly

1007
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:34,720
we're just opening it up.
Feelings Hour.

1008
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,600
We're we're what to do better
moving forward.

1009
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:42,040
We've talked about a lot of it.
Well, I mean, I'm just going to

1010
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:43,680
say this, I mean we talk about
it all the time.

1011
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:47,840
And I, I know I said it in reply
to this tweet, but I mean we're

1012
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:49,960
we're, we're open.
We're in open forum here, right?

1013
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,320
Like we don't really pull
punches.

1014
00:53:52,880 --> 00:54:00,750
We we we want the thoughts and
the ideas to be out there so and

1015
00:54:00,750 --> 00:54:02,710
we want fans to interact with
that.

1016
00:54:02,830 --> 00:54:06,110
But what we want fans to do is
interact with that in a way that

1017
00:54:06,670 --> 00:54:09,910
is positive right in a in a way
that generates the discussion,

1018
00:54:09,910 --> 00:54:12,910
pushes the discussion forward,
not shuts things down.

1019
00:54:13,310 --> 00:54:15,750
When you start cherry picking
things like that and twisting

1020
00:54:15,750 --> 00:54:21,550
someone's words, you're not only
alienating the people that enjoy

1021
00:54:21,550 --> 00:54:26,510
what we're doing, but you're
making it so other people don't

1022
00:54:26,510 --> 00:54:29,510
want to engage and have those
open discussions and feel like

1023
00:54:29,510 --> 00:54:32,830
they can say stuff without, you
know, somebody running and

1024
00:54:33,110 --> 00:54:35,430
running it to Twitter and and
making a big deal about it.

1025
00:54:35,430 --> 00:54:40,590
So just come here and have fun.
That's that's what this is

1026
00:54:40,590 --> 00:54:43,510
about.
Come in, have fun.

1027
00:54:43,590 --> 00:54:46,430
Nobody was trying to ruin
anyone's career or like.

1028
00:54:46,670 --> 00:54:48,310
I'm open.
I'm open, but what we doing

1029
00:54:48,310 --> 00:54:50,800
here?
Anybody who has anything to say

1030
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,840
to me, you can ask just about
anybody that follows me on

1031
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:55,200
Twitter.
I don't have a lot of followers.

1032
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:58,400
I got a couple of them.
But anybody who engages with me

1033
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,480
on Twitter, man and my my DM's
are open.

1034
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:04,040
I got plenty of people's number
and Blacksburg treats me good.

1035
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,800
When I go to Blacksburg, man, I
got a lot of friends there.

1036
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,560
I wouldn't travel 7 hours to a
place where I thought people

1037
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:10,880
were racist and they didn't want
me.

1038
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,720
So I'm just going to put that
out every time I go to

1039
00:55:13,720 --> 00:55:17,240
Blacksburg and every time I've
been to Blacksburg over the past

1040
00:55:17,240 --> 00:55:20,280
decade has been.
A movie for me.

1041
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,960
So I just wanted to get my
feelings out and I just wanted

1042
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,080
to address that because I'm not
going to, I'm not going to, I'm

1043
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,560
not going to address stupidity
too much.

1044
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:30,680
You know what I'm saying?
Like I I'm going to say a little

1045
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,000
bit just so you can get your
feelings out.

1046
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:36,000
But just like we had a comment
section, if you hear me saying

1047
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,200
something that you don't agree
with, please engage and tell me,

1048
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,520
Tally.
I think that was dumb and we'll

1049
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:45,160
have a dialogue about it.
So that's what we want here.

1050
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:48,720
That's why Curtis and Brian have
did a great job setting up.

1051
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:52,280
What boundary corner is that?
We do have those discussions,

1052
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:55,200
but we're not.
I'm not going to take something

1053
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:59,280
that anybody in our audience
says and twist it around to make

1054
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,880
it mean what I want it to be.
That's just not what I'm going

1055
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:03,360
to do.
I'm going to give you your

1056
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:06,960
opportunity to explain it.
And then the person said, well,

1057
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,600
after watching the game, I do
agree with you, drone should be

1058
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:11,280
the starter.
But what are we arguing about?

1059
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,160
What are we arguing?
About.

1060
00:56:14,750 --> 00:56:16,950
But you know what else we got to
do better moving forward?

1061
00:56:17,070 --> 00:56:18,430
We talked about the old line
switch.

1062
00:56:18,510 --> 00:56:20,270
Got to do it.
Got to start trying it.

1063
00:56:21,390 --> 00:56:23,630
Sheldon.
He laid it out here a little

1064
00:56:23,630 --> 00:56:26,670
while ago.
We were one of the worst teams

1065
00:56:26,670 --> 00:56:29,630
with the explosive run plays.
It has to stop.

1066
00:56:29,630 --> 00:56:31,710
I don't know if that means
stacked boxes.

1067
00:56:33,030 --> 00:56:35,790
I'm not a technical expert.
That's why we got Brian and

1068
00:56:35,790 --> 00:56:37,550
Tally.
Sheldon finds the dad.

1069
00:56:37,550 --> 00:56:41,190
I just.
Talked you got Tally.

1070
00:56:43,110 --> 00:56:45,390
You played you.
You played at a level I never

1071
00:56:45,390 --> 00:56:48,270
did and a lot of people.
Pull everybody out.

1072
00:56:48,350 --> 00:56:50,070
Put a whole new line in.
I don't know what.

1073
00:56:51,670 --> 00:56:53,390
You did.
There's two pieces.

1074
00:56:53,390 --> 00:56:56,430
We haven't touched and Sheldon
could probably find the stats on

1075
00:56:56,430 --> 00:56:58,750
it right now.
Y'all, we haven't forced a

1076
00:56:58,750 --> 00:57:02,070
turnover since ODU.
We have turned the ball over

1077
00:57:02,350 --> 00:57:05,510
four times since ODU.
Gotta win the turnover battle.

1078
00:57:05,990 --> 00:57:08,630
We're.
Losing that battle and in both

1079
00:57:08,630 --> 00:57:15,110
games, both games we lost.
Significant momentum switches

1080
00:57:15,390 --> 00:57:19,470
when we had the turnovers.
That has got to stop now.

1081
00:57:19,550 --> 00:57:23,390
I know, I know the meshes and
things like that are going to

1082
00:57:23,390 --> 00:57:26,270
get better.
I know if you keeping drones

1083
00:57:26,270 --> 00:57:28,270
there he's going to get more
time with two to more count

1084
00:57:28,270 --> 00:57:35,230
Malachi, but we have not had a
chance to pick or fumble or

1085
00:57:35,230 --> 00:57:38,070
force a fumble since the ODU
game.

1086
00:57:39,100 --> 00:57:41,820
And it's not good because we're
going in that trend where we

1087
00:57:41,820 --> 00:57:44,900
were last year where we were one
of the worst tools that for some

1088
00:57:44,900 --> 00:57:48,180
turnovers we can't live and die
like that with the way the

1089
00:57:48,180 --> 00:57:49,540
offense is right now coming
along.

1090
00:57:51,260 --> 00:57:54,020
Yeah, I mean we, we talked about
earlier razor thin margin,

1091
00:57:54,020 --> 00:57:56,260
right.
So it's like that with the

1092
00:57:56,260 --> 00:57:58,820
injuries.
It's also like that with the

1093
00:57:58,820 --> 00:58:01,820
turnover battle.
We are at such a razor thin

1094
00:58:01,820 --> 00:58:04,700
margin where we can't make those
type of mistakes that give teams

1095
00:58:04,700 --> 00:58:06,780
extra possessions, that give
teams short fields.

1096
00:58:09,070 --> 00:58:11,870
So we've got to win the turnover
battle every week, whether

1097
00:58:11,870 --> 00:58:16,510
that's Marshall, whether that's
ODU, whether that's Purdue,

1098
00:58:16,590 --> 00:58:19,270
Rutgers, we got pit in a couple
weeks.

1099
00:58:19,670 --> 00:58:24,270
We cannot lose the turnover
battle with the depth issues

1100
00:58:24,270 --> 00:58:26,190
that we have with the injuries
that we have right now.

1101
00:58:26,550 --> 00:58:28,030
That's just, that's just the
long and short of it.

1102
00:58:28,030 --> 00:58:30,110
So anybody that's you got to be
able to protect football.

1103
00:58:30,910 --> 00:58:32,510
Man, you got a college a go
ahead show.

1104
00:58:32,510 --> 00:58:34,310
Yeah, I'm.
Just going to say real quickly

1105
00:58:34,310 --> 00:58:36,110
that it makes sense why they're
not.

1106
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:38,800
Getting interceptions because as
I said, nobody's starting the

1107
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:40,880
ball against tech.
So you're essentially relying

1108
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:42,800
on, you know, 4 stumbles, which
is kind of hard to do.

1109
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:47,560
But to me, the collusion from
that should be just play better,

1110
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:49,680
play better run defense.
I mean, because if you if you

1111
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:51,560
play better run defense, you
force them to throw the ball

1112
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:53,120
more and to throw the ball more
than.

1113
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:54,880
That's where chances were fixed.
I mean, to me, it's really that

1114
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:56,240
simple.
Just play better on the run.

1115
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:02,240
What defense is trying to do is
is shut down the run game and

1116
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:04,280
make them test you down the
feet, right?

1117
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:07,840
But like, that's generally the
way that you try to.

1118
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:09,880
I mean that that that's the
approach that most people have

1119
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,920
is that we can stop the run,
force them to be 1 dimensional,

1120
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:14,400
make them throw the ball down
the field.

1121
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:18,120
We have a better chance of
turnovers and things can go our

1122
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:19,560
way.
You know, we'll live and die

1123
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:22,240
with the beat ball here or
there, but we might get some

1124
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:24,880
turnovers.
That's going to help us if you

1125
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,360
can't get off the field because
they're rushing the ball on you

1126
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:30,870
and if you're giving up long run
plays consistently, you're going

1127
00:59:30,870 --> 00:59:32,470
to have very limited
opportunities, like Shelton

1128
00:59:32,470 --> 00:59:34,990
said, to get turnovers.
I mean forcing a phone call

1129
00:59:35,470 --> 00:59:39,470
outside of a like a strip sack
is difficult like that.

1130
00:59:39,470 --> 00:59:42,670
They don't happen very often so.
So they do not.

1131
00:59:44,070 --> 00:59:45,910
All right.
Last.

1132
00:59:46,590 --> 00:59:47,390
Yep.
Thanks.

1133
00:59:47,510 --> 00:59:49,510
It's a good call, Sheldon, and
that's why he's here.

1134
00:59:50,310 --> 00:59:55,470
Last piece I got before we turn
it over, We got to finish.

1135
00:59:55,550 --> 00:59:59,150
We have to finish our drives.
We cannot afford field goals.

1136
01:00:00,330 --> 01:00:04,010
We have to finish stops.
When we get a team in 3rd and

1137
01:00:04,290 --> 01:00:07,450
more than five, they cannot get
first down.

1138
01:00:07,450 --> 01:00:10,730
So we've seen to meet and and
maybe the stats aren't on this

1139
01:00:11,250 --> 01:00:13,730
but as far as it goes from the
eye test, it feels like third

1140
01:00:13,730 --> 01:00:16,410
and four.
It's like hold your breath like

1141
01:00:16,490 --> 01:00:18,690
and they they're probably going
to get this.

1142
01:00:19,170 --> 01:00:21,570
And then the last piece we have
to finish in the fourth quarter,

1143
01:00:21,730 --> 01:00:24,890
it's two games now.
We did not finish the 4th.

1144
01:00:25,530 --> 01:00:28,010
That was the identity of this
team last year.

1145
01:00:29,430 --> 01:00:33,670
It slowly changed.
Can do the last things of the

1146
01:00:33,670 --> 01:00:36,590
game to me.
We can't afford that this year.

1147
01:00:36,950 --> 01:00:39,950
It needs to get righted quicker
but we need to finish.

1148
01:00:41,830 --> 01:00:44,030
I agree.
I think that one thing we

1149
01:00:44,030 --> 01:00:47,070
skipped over that I just want to
maybe maybe I just was in my

1150
01:00:47,070 --> 01:00:50,350
feelings and and Mr. saying it.
But we talked probably talked

1151
01:00:50,350 --> 01:00:54,470
about the the slow starts,
mentioned the slow starts and

1152
01:00:54,470 --> 01:00:57,270
things like that.
Like we got to get off to a fast

1153
01:00:57,270 --> 01:00:59,180
start.
In some of these games, you know

1154
01:00:59,180 --> 01:01:00,940
what I'm saying?
We got to punch somebody in the

1155
01:01:00,940 --> 01:01:04,780
mouth first because in any
sport, when you get punched in

1156
01:01:04,780 --> 01:01:07,740
the mouth, like everybody's got
to plan until that happens, you

1157
01:01:07,740 --> 01:01:11,740
know, And I feel like we were
fighting, fighting the losing

1158
01:01:11,740 --> 01:01:13,660
battle from the beginning of
that game because we went out

1159
01:01:13,660 --> 01:01:16,260
and fumbled the first drive and
they go and score.

1160
01:01:16,260 --> 01:01:19,100
So we got to go out and we got
to we ought to create some

1161
01:01:19,100 --> 01:01:21,700
things like that first we got to
start getting up to a little bit

1162
01:01:21,700 --> 01:01:25,700
better start and I think that
you know of course that'll help

1163
01:01:25,700 --> 01:01:27,380
us but.
All the things that we're

1164
01:01:27,380 --> 01:01:28,780
talking about will help us do
that.

1165
01:01:29,060 --> 01:01:31,060
Got to get off the field on 3rd
downs.

1166
01:01:31,300 --> 01:01:33,220
We got to stop turning the ball
over.

1167
01:01:33,500 --> 01:01:37,220
All of these things that we've
talked about for the last what

1168
01:01:37,260 --> 01:01:41,020
hour and and two minutes here.
I know if we can cut some of

1169
01:01:41,020 --> 01:01:43,980
that down, it's definitely gives
us a better shot to win the

1170
01:01:43,980 --> 01:01:45,460
game.
Especially when you're paying

1171
01:01:45,460 --> 01:01:49,260
people like Marshall.
You know, not, no disrespect to

1172
01:01:49,260 --> 01:01:53,260
Marshall, but like I expect a
certain game from a Florida

1173
01:01:53,260 --> 01:01:57,430
State or Clemson or even pit.
But when you're playing people

1174
01:01:57,430 --> 01:02:02,270
like Purdue or Rutgers, like we
got, we got to find a way not to

1175
01:02:02,270 --> 01:02:05,070
give them extra possessions and
things like that.

1176
01:02:05,670 --> 01:02:07,350
Or or give them that hope early
on.

1177
01:02:07,350 --> 01:02:11,030
Like just think about last year.
The reason that you know we were

1178
01:02:11,030 --> 01:02:14,190
able to jump down on BC earlier
was because we we we jumped on

1179
01:02:14,190 --> 01:02:18,310
them early we we killed their
will early in that game with

1180
01:02:18,310 --> 01:02:22,110
some defensive plays and some
timely offense that.

1181
01:02:23,050 --> 01:02:25,810
You know, they really didn't
have a whole lot of pulse.

1182
01:02:25,810 --> 01:02:28,650
They had to abandon what their
game plan was and do something

1183
01:02:28,650 --> 01:02:30,930
different.
You know what that?

1184
01:02:30,930 --> 01:02:33,690
Enabled us to tee off on that
poor ass offensive line.

1185
01:02:34,130 --> 01:02:38,610
So if we can finally do
something like that, that that

1186
01:02:38,610 --> 01:02:42,530
would at least help us be able
to stay with our game plan,

1187
01:02:42,810 --> 01:02:48,490
stick to what we do well and put
some pressure on them to have to

1188
01:02:48,490 --> 01:02:50,410
make a play instead of us having
to make a play.

1189
01:02:51,660 --> 01:02:54,260
I'm going to go to this right
quick so we can we can move on.

1190
01:02:54,620 --> 01:02:57,420
But Brian, you said you brought
up BC last year.

1191
01:02:58,380 --> 01:03:02,380
You know, I didn't have a pulse
because that quarterback was

1192
01:03:02,700 --> 01:03:05,380
who?
Jacobic.

1193
01:03:05,380 --> 01:03:08,140
Jacobic.
Please, God, let him roll in

1194
01:03:08,140 --> 01:03:10,260
there when Pitt comes into town
next week.

1195
01:03:10,260 --> 01:03:13,140
I'm not saying we're going to
win, but don't change.

1196
01:03:13,140 --> 01:03:16,020
Just let him go, please.
Let him run in and have be the

1197
01:03:16,020 --> 01:03:18,020
quarterback.
It's horrible.

1198
01:03:18,460 --> 01:03:22,300
He is horrible, man.
All right, I'm gonna pitch this

1199
01:03:22,300 --> 01:03:25,140
real quick and try to do this in
as few words as possible.

1200
01:03:25,300 --> 01:03:29,300
That sometimes can get difficult
for us through the first three

1201
01:03:29,300 --> 01:03:31,060
games.
Shelton What's the team's

1202
01:03:31,060 --> 01:03:34,500
identity?
What's the team's identity?

1203
01:03:34,500 --> 01:03:38,100
I mean, well, I mean, it's
changed a lot.

1204
01:03:38,100 --> 01:03:40,220
Like ODU, it was, you know,
we're going to run the ball in

1205
01:03:40,220 --> 01:03:42,860
first down no matter what.
And it's like, OK, we're going

1206
01:03:42,860 --> 01:03:44,740
to start passing ball because if
you have to run game against

1207
01:03:44,740 --> 01:03:48,020
Purdue and against Rutgers,
obviously got a new quarterback,

1208
01:03:48,020 --> 01:03:51,250
so you're running.
A lot more, you know, RPO stuff,

1209
01:03:51,250 --> 01:03:53,370
kind of getting the quarterback
involved in the run game.

1210
01:03:54,330 --> 01:03:56,170
Honestly, I don't know.
It's just it's hard for me to

1211
01:03:56,170 --> 01:04:00,290
judge because the personnel
keeps changing and there's just

1212
01:04:00,290 --> 01:04:03,370
nothing that's really sticking.
So I would say obviously they

1213
01:04:03,370 --> 01:04:05,210
want to, you know, use the
quarterback in the run game.

1214
01:04:05,210 --> 01:04:06,810
That's that's your office of
identity.

1215
01:04:07,530 --> 01:04:09,930
Defensively, I just, I think
they've got no idea what's going

1216
01:04:09,930 --> 01:04:11,890
on and I don't know, I couldn't
tell you.

1217
01:04:12,050 --> 01:04:14,490
So it's just it's kind of a it's
kind of a mess right now.

1218
01:04:18,450 --> 01:04:22,130
I think right now we auditioning
for NCAA 2024.

1219
01:04:22,490 --> 01:04:25,370
Is that when the game come out
next year?

1220
01:04:25,730 --> 01:04:27,570
Yeah, I think that's what we
auditioning for.

1221
01:04:27,930 --> 01:04:30,370
You know, we're just going to
pick plays and until it until

1222
01:04:30,490 --> 01:04:32,330
see what works and go from
there.

1223
01:04:32,930 --> 01:04:35,450
Hell, I don't know.
I'm like Sheldon, man, it's

1224
01:04:35,450 --> 01:04:38,730
changed every week.
But I'm going to say this and I

1225
01:04:38,730 --> 01:04:40,610
know you want me to keep it
short, so I'm going to keep it

1226
01:04:40,610 --> 01:04:45,210
short.
I could see what the offense is

1227
01:04:45,210 --> 01:04:47,650
supposed to look like in the
Rutgers game.

1228
01:04:48,790 --> 01:04:51,390
From what I've heard, from what
they've been telling us and from

1229
01:04:51,390 --> 01:04:55,470
what I've seen in the Rutgers
game, I can see the style of

1230
01:04:55,470 --> 01:05:02,310
offense that they want to run.
I'm kind of with Tally here.

1231
01:05:02,310 --> 01:05:06,630
I finally saw an identity on
offense this week with drones.

1232
01:05:06,630 --> 01:05:12,790
As the quarterback, I felt like
with Wells you could see the

1233
01:05:12,790 --> 01:05:15,960
passing schemes.
What they were capable of,

1234
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:19,280
especially when you had Jennings
in there and Lane in there, you

1235
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:21,640
can see what the what, what the
capability is.

1236
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:25,800
But in terms of the full scope
of what the offense is about,

1237
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:28,240
you saw that with drones in the
game.

1238
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:33,600
Defensively, I feel like we are
scrambling a little bit and I

1239
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:36,440
think most of that is because of
the injuries and safety.

1240
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:39,400
I think we're still very
inexperienced at linebacker and

1241
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:41,880
it's showing.
And I think we're still a little

1242
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:44,400
undersized on the defensive line
and it's showing.

1243
01:05:45,450 --> 01:05:49,530
I think quarterback is the only
position that I really feel has

1244
01:05:49,530 --> 01:05:53,570
an identity right now.
I feel like they are playing

1245
01:05:53,570 --> 01:05:55,210
well.
They're they're they're locking

1246
01:05:55,210 --> 01:05:58,410
guys up pretty well.
When when those situations

1247
01:05:58,410 --> 01:06:03,970
arise, you know, we saw them
throw a decent amount in the

1248
01:06:03,970 --> 01:06:05,530
Purdue game.
They they they they threw the

1249
01:06:05,530 --> 01:06:07,490
ball around a little bit.
They ran a lot, but they threw

1250
01:06:07,770 --> 01:06:09,930
as well.
We didn't see a ton of throwing

1251
01:06:09,930 --> 01:06:11,370
in ODU.
We didn't see a ton of throwing

1252
01:06:11,370 --> 01:06:14,090
at Rutgers, but when they did
throw, they weren't effective.

1253
01:06:15,260 --> 01:06:19,780
Whether that's on the secondary
or not, but right now

1254
01:06:20,460 --> 01:06:25,460
statistically at least they're
pretty good secondary and that's

1255
01:06:25,460 --> 01:06:27,380
really the only thing.
And that's really the only thing

1256
01:06:27,380 --> 01:06:29,260
I feel like we're leaning on
right now from a defense

1257
01:06:29,260 --> 01:06:32,780
perspective statistically until
we see more passing.

1258
01:06:33,100 --> 01:06:35,300
And I think that's where the run
game has to get fitted.

1259
01:06:35,380 --> 01:06:38,220
And I think what my identity is,
Brent Pride knows what he wants

1260
01:06:38,220 --> 01:06:41,060
to do on defense.
But right now the pieces aren't

1261
01:06:41,060 --> 01:06:43,620
there, or the pieces are too
young and they're making

1262
01:06:43,620 --> 01:06:47,380
significant errors, especially
in the linebacking core and even

1263
01:06:47,380 --> 01:06:51,220
more so in the safety core.
Offensively, I love what Y'all

1264
01:06:51,220 --> 01:06:53,460
said.
I didn't really know.

1265
01:06:53,460 --> 01:06:55,540
It's like we were this first
week, we were this the second

1266
01:06:55,540 --> 01:06:56,900
weekend, were this the third
week.

1267
01:06:57,140 --> 01:07:01,520
But it goes back to what y'all
two just said, How that looked

1268
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:05,280
looked like reminiscence of Penn
State about five years ago.

1269
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:07,800
It looked like Joe Moorehead's
offense that I've seen at

1270
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:10,240
Oregon, like I've seen at
Mississippi State.

1271
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:14,480
And that's how you can go,
because I look at our stats

1272
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:17,720
here.
We have 368 total yards against

1273
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:21,280
ODU368.
That was a full team, right?

1274
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:24,160
Jennings played, Lane played.
Nobody was banged up to and

1275
01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:28,520
Thomas last week down your two
best receivers, brand new

1276
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:35,090
quarterback.
We put out 339 or 319.

1277
01:07:35,090 --> 01:07:36,690
Excuse me, I looked at the math
room.

1278
01:07:37,330 --> 01:07:39,730
That's 50 yards difference.
And you're missing a hell of a

1279
01:07:39,730 --> 01:07:42,210
lot of production there.
Hell of a lot of production.

1280
01:07:42,210 --> 01:07:45,490
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Now back to the episode.

1312
01:09:10,939 --> 01:09:13,020
And we are back and we've lost
Shelton.

1313
01:09:13,020 --> 01:09:16,420
He shall return in a moment.
Now we are going to get into

1314
01:09:16,740 --> 01:09:19,700
Know the Enemy and we're going
to take a look at Marshall and

1315
01:09:19,700 --> 01:09:21,979
we're going to start, as always,
on the offensive side of the

1316
01:09:21,979 --> 01:09:24,100
ball.
I'm going to give the floor to

1317
01:09:24,100 --> 01:09:27,580
Brian Sigla as he discusses the
scheme and some things we need

1318
01:09:27,580 --> 01:09:31,300
to be looking for.
Yeah guys, we're looking at the

1319
01:09:31,300 --> 01:09:34,500
the Clint trick it it's it's
another Smash Mouth spread RPO.

1320
01:09:35,250 --> 01:09:37,729
We got a it's a run first
scheme.

1321
01:09:38,130 --> 01:09:40,729
Shocking to say, you know we're
going to have to stop the run

1322
01:09:40,729 --> 01:09:44,250
again this week.
They like to go empty a lot with

1323
01:09:44,250 --> 01:09:47,090
frequency.
They'll split Rasheena Lee, who

1324
01:09:47,090 --> 01:09:49,010
we'll talk about here in a
second out wide.

1325
01:09:49,890 --> 01:09:51,410
They'll run some draws out of
that.

1326
01:09:51,410 --> 01:09:55,090
They'll also swing it out there
on screens and and swing passes

1327
01:09:56,170 --> 01:09:57,770
and they're they're really heavy
on that.

1328
01:09:57,770 --> 01:10:00,730
But they will take the
occasional deep shot in there as

1329
01:10:00,730 --> 01:10:01,810
well.
But it's supposed to a lot of

1330
01:10:01,810 --> 01:10:04,990
the short stuff.
And a heavy dose of the rushing

1331
01:10:04,990 --> 01:10:10,390
attack.
And since we're already here,

1332
01:10:10,390 --> 01:10:12,870
I'll go ahead and talk a little
bit about Rasheen Ali.

1333
01:10:13,750 --> 01:10:18,790
He's there running back
literally to me, the only player

1334
01:10:18,910 --> 01:10:23,190
that scares me on this this
offense.

1335
01:10:23,190 --> 01:10:28,350
And it's not just because we
have a a really struggle bus.

1336
01:10:29,010 --> 01:10:32,930
Run a rush defense Right now
he's pretty dangerous.

1337
01:10:32,930 --> 01:10:36,410
He's he kind of reminds me of a
of a poor man's.

1338
01:10:37,170 --> 01:10:38,330
Is he?
Havana, Canada.

1339
01:10:39,690 --> 01:10:42,930
He gets to the second.
And third level, he's pretty

1340
01:10:42,930 --> 01:10:44,850
dangerous.
If we can keep him contained in

1341
01:10:44,850 --> 01:10:46,810
the backfield, I'll feel okay
about it.

1342
01:10:47,410 --> 01:10:49,770
Him getting to the second and
third level, that's where he

1343
01:10:49,770 --> 01:10:52,930
does a whole lot of damage.
He can be a a big play threat

1344
01:10:52,930 --> 01:10:56,730
but he is very boom or bust.
You know, he's not that plotting

1345
01:10:56,730 --> 01:11:00,770
running back that's going to get
you a consistent, you know, 4 to

1346
01:11:00,770 --> 01:11:04,610
8 yards as he's moving through
the the line.

1347
01:11:04,610 --> 01:11:06,930
He's either going to kind of go
for one or two or it's going to

1348
01:11:06,930 --> 01:11:10,650
be one of those 15 or 20 or even
bigger games on the running

1349
01:11:10,650 --> 01:11:13,130
game.
So definitely an explosive

1350
01:11:13,130 --> 01:11:15,490
running back that can make a big
place.

1351
01:11:15,490 --> 01:11:19,130
So we got to stop him.
If we do, I'll feel a little bit

1352
01:11:19,130 --> 01:11:22,260
better.
Go ahead.

1353
01:11:22,660 --> 01:11:23,940
Yeah, I was just going to say he
was.

1354
01:11:24,100 --> 01:11:28,700
He had a big year in 2021, went
for about 1400 yards, 23

1355
01:11:28,700 --> 01:11:33,620
touchdowns last year.
Not that great of a year.

1356
01:11:33,620 --> 01:11:35,780
I think he was injured.
No, he was injured.

1357
01:11:35,780 --> 01:11:40,260
The only one for about two, 273
last year, one touchdown.

1358
01:11:40,260 --> 01:11:41,820
So had some injury problems
there.

1359
01:11:42,060 --> 01:11:46,660
But this year, you know he's
already gone for 222 yards, 5

1360
01:11:46,660 --> 01:11:50,270
touchdowns on 36 carries.
Again, they are using them out

1361
01:11:50,270 --> 01:11:53,590
of the back fill a little bit,
about 5 catches, 47 yards.

1362
01:11:53,590 --> 01:11:55,150
There are no touchdowns catching
the ball.

1363
01:11:55,150 --> 01:11:59,270
But pretty like you said, Brian
hit nail on my head with him.

1364
01:12:00,950 --> 01:12:04,590
Reminds you a lot of that name
that we're not going to say like

1365
01:12:04,630 --> 01:12:06,270
Walmart, like we don't want to
talk.

1366
01:12:06,270 --> 01:12:08,110
We don't say that name on this
vodka.

1367
01:12:08,430 --> 01:12:12,270
Curtis will get some flashbacks.
Will feel like he's a bomb again

1368
01:12:12,270 --> 01:12:13,990
or.
Something yeah, it's crazy, but

1369
01:12:15,510 --> 01:12:18,270
he's, he's, he's, he's one of
the players on their team that.

1370
01:12:18,950 --> 01:12:21,190
Kind of like Brian says, is a
little bit scared.

1371
01:12:21,190 --> 01:12:23,510
So we're going to have our hands
full, we're going to have our

1372
01:12:23,510 --> 01:12:28,670
hands full and I hope that our
defensive staff are preparing

1373
01:12:28,670 --> 01:12:31,070
for seeing him.
All right.

1374
01:12:31,270 --> 01:12:34,750
Shown any any deeper steps on
Rasheena Lee?

1375
01:12:36,750 --> 01:12:42,470
He has a 71% breakaway
percentage, which I believe is

1376
01:12:42,630 --> 01:12:46,390
it runs the 15 more yards.
And that is a third among all

1377
01:12:46,390 --> 01:12:48,190
running backs in the entire
group of five.

1378
01:12:48,910 --> 01:12:51,750
So, like, like Brian was saying,
he's a big time exposed to play

1379
01:12:51,790 --> 01:12:54,790
guy.
All right, well, let's hope the

1380
01:12:54,790 --> 01:12:58,150
defense can figure something out
this week as they prep for him.

1381
01:12:58,870 --> 01:13:03,830
Because if the past defense is
what it is, they're going to

1382
01:13:03,830 --> 01:13:09,230
have to stop #5.
Caleb McMillan.

1383
01:13:10,390 --> 01:13:14,270
Caleb is a six foot three ��250
wide receiver.

1384
01:13:14,310 --> 01:13:20,270
He was the almost the 25th 100
prospect in the class of 2018

1385
01:13:20,630 --> 01:13:24,150
out of Orlando, FL and Edgewater
High School was rated A2 star

1386
01:13:24,150 --> 01:13:27,830
down there and really hadn't
been much of A contributor up

1387
01:13:27,830 --> 01:13:32,150
until this season.
Only 198 yards last year with

1388
01:13:32,150 --> 01:13:35,380
one touchdown.
This year, and especially last

1389
01:13:35,380 --> 01:13:40,700
week against ECU, big game, 85
yards, including a 75 yard

1390
01:13:40,700 --> 01:13:43,020
touchdown.
Brian.

1391
01:13:43,020 --> 01:13:47,660
Was that 75 yard touchdown a
make, a miss or was he down the

1392
01:13:47,660 --> 01:13:51,020
field?
Yeah, he was down the field.

1393
01:13:52,020 --> 01:13:54,980
He's a guy that can beat you
with the.

1394
01:13:55,260 --> 01:13:58,500
He's a guy that he's their
primary deep threat here, so

1395
01:13:58,500 --> 01:14:00,380
he's going to be a guy that can
beat you deep.

1396
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:03,640
But they will use him on those
kind of swings and screens as

1397
01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:05,680
well.
So he's he does a little bit of

1398
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:07,840
both, but that big one kind of
came off a deep ball.

1399
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:12,160
They will occasionally take a
shot with him, but he's a guy

1400
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:14,240
that can kind of do a little bit
of everything.

1401
01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:17,280
But he's primarily going to be a
guy that we're going to be

1402
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:18,760
concerned about if he's going
deep.

1403
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:24,480
All righty.
Well, let's hope we can stop him

1404
01:14:24,480 --> 01:14:27,400
in that one.
Tally.

1405
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:31,400
Who do you got up next?
Yeah, so we got Kate Conley up

1406
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:32,680
next.
He's there tight in.

1407
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:37,240
He was pretty interesting
prospect, I guess, because you

1408
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:39,880
don't show any offers out of
high school.

1409
01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:42,920
Didn't even have a rating.
Went to Central Michigan.

1410
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:47,520
Transferred from Central
Michigan to Marshall while he

1411
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:51,760
was at Central Michigan in 2022.
It's like he had 11 receptions

1412
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:54,920
for about 168 yards.
Also not.

1413
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:59,080
Used a whole bunch in the
passing game there, but this

1414
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:03,160
year he's already got 9 catches
for 114 yards, so it looks like

1415
01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:07,000
they are using him a little bit
more there at at Marshall than

1416
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:08,720
he was.
I know he's more of a blocking

1417
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:14,040
tight end, but seems to be a
intricate part of their offense.

1418
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:18,080
Which you got on him, Brian?
Yeah, I mean he's, I'd call him

1419
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:22,240
a balance tight end.
He's definitely better at

1420
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:24,840
blocking than than being used in
the passing game, but he's he's

1421
01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:27,360
a fishing in the passing game.
So I mean that's a lot of times

1422
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:28,800
that's what you want out of a
tight end.

1423
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:31,480
Guys that can move the stick,
kind of a change of pace in the

1424
01:15:31,480 --> 01:15:34,440
passing game.
But he blocks, he blocks really

1425
01:15:34,440 --> 01:15:37,000
good for a tight end, blocks a
good leverage, so shows

1426
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:41,120
surprising power for his size.
So overall, just a guy that can

1427
01:15:41,480 --> 01:15:44,200
kind of get in there and rough
things up a little bit in the

1428
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:46,520
run game, but still kind of move
the sticks for them in the

1429
01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:51,380
passing game, showing anything
on him as far as grades go,

1430
01:15:51,380 --> 01:15:55,540
Anything unique, different?
Not too much, pretty much a run

1431
01:15:55,540 --> 01:15:59,380
in the mill tied in.
They do target him a relatively

1432
01:15:59,380 --> 01:16:01,580
solid amount, especially
considering they've only played

1433
01:16:01,580 --> 01:16:04,340
two games so far.
They got 10 targets, but he

1434
01:16:04,340 --> 01:16:07,700
averages almost 13 yards to
catch, which from Marshalls is

1435
01:16:07,700 --> 01:16:10,420
pretty good.
So also, big time is supposed to

1436
01:16:10,420 --> 01:16:13,580
play Guy.
Alrighty, let's flip over.

1437
01:16:13,580 --> 01:16:15,740
Let's take a look at the
offensive line because they've

1438
01:16:15,740 --> 01:16:19,820
got a guy, Kelly, much like the
guy you were looking for.

1439
01:16:20,180 --> 01:16:23,820
I could not find anything
recruiting wide on Ethan

1440
01:16:23,820 --> 01:16:25,500
Driscoll.
Who is there?

1441
01:16:25,500 --> 01:16:30,740
Left tackle #52, six foot nine
��329 or red shirt senior.

1442
01:16:31,260 --> 01:16:32,860
We crossed.
Yeah, yeah, Big Boy.

1443
01:16:33,140 --> 01:16:36,580
Holy Cross High School in
Louisville, KY, where he played

1444
01:16:36,580 --> 01:16:40,160
detackle in high school.
Also played basketball and if

1445
01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:43,320
you search his name up a lot of
stuff is coming up.

1446
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:47,480
He is getting NFL looks.
He was a preseason all Sunbelt

1447
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:51,560
second team by Phil Steele at
Athlon with the Sunbelt

1448
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:57,120
Conference coaches.
So Brian, is he good enough to

1449
01:16:57,120 --> 01:17:00,720
potentially make it to the next
level?

1450
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:05,840
I mean, he's got the right body.
I mean, I think from a run game

1451
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:09,300
perspective, he's very good.
But I'd say overall he's a very

1452
01:17:09,300 --> 01:17:13,700
balanced left tackle, shows good
footwork and strengthen the run

1453
01:17:13,700 --> 01:17:17,460
game.
You know, pass pro isn't

1454
01:17:18,540 --> 01:17:24,540
exceptional but above average.
So I mean just overall he's,

1455
01:17:24,540 --> 01:17:27,500
he's definitely a guy that you
know we could really use on our

1456
01:17:27,500 --> 01:17:31,700
side of the ball at this point
when we look at the.

1457
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:36,160
The tackles there?
We probably could use you right

1458
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:40,080
now.
I mean it'd be nice to have an

1459
01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:43,360
NFL prospect on our offensive
line right now for being honest

1460
01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:46,560
just you know cuz I don't right
now at least you know I know

1461
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:48,800
it's still early with some of
the young guys but we we do not

1462
01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:53,520
have an NFL prospect on our
offensive line right now so they

1463
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:55,880
got one.
Like I said, he's pretty solid

1464
01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:58,390
overall and.
I know Sheldon's got a couple

1465
01:17:58,390 --> 01:18:00,150
other guys.
He wants to talk a little bit

1466
01:18:00,150 --> 01:18:02,790
about the grades and and where
they kind of rank in the process

1467
01:18:02,790 --> 01:18:04,830
there as well.
Sure.

1468
01:18:04,830 --> 01:18:07,190
So you've got Dalton Tucker
who's played right guard and

1469
01:18:07,190 --> 01:18:10,030
right tackle.
He is a six year senior, highest

1470
01:18:10,030 --> 01:18:11,950
credit offensive lineman for
Marshall.

1471
01:18:13,070 --> 01:18:15,710
On the flip side, Ultric Barlow
is their left guard.

1472
01:18:15,710 --> 01:18:16,750
He has been the lowest credit
guy.

1473
01:18:16,750 --> 01:18:20,150
He's a transfer from TCUA.
Lot of experience with Trent

1474
01:18:20,150 --> 01:18:22,510
Holler at center, 5th year
senior.

1475
01:18:23,110 --> 01:18:27,630
Very good in past blocking.
One stat that I got so between

1476
01:18:27,630 --> 01:18:30,670
Holler and Logan Osborne, who's
their right guard, they've

1477
01:18:30,670 --> 01:18:34,710
combined for 140 pass protection
snaps and they have not allowed

1478
01:18:34,710 --> 01:18:38,270
a single pressure.
So Marshall has a team ranks top

1479
01:18:38,350 --> 01:18:42,350
in the country through two games
in pressure rate allowed.

1480
01:18:42,350 --> 01:18:44,030
They they do not give up
anything.

1481
01:18:44,350 --> 01:18:46,750
Now you could say two games,
small sample size, not a great

1482
01:18:46,750 --> 01:18:49,070
competition, that's fair.
But they're doing a lot of

1483
01:18:49,070 --> 01:18:52,570
things very well in the past
protection side so far you know

1484
01:18:52,570 --> 01:18:54,810
doing it's the doing the things
right against those lower

1485
01:18:54,810 --> 01:18:55,490
levels.
Yes.

1486
01:18:55,730 --> 01:19:00,370
Now I'm surprised you say that.
And then looking at the two

1487
01:19:00,370 --> 01:19:02,810
games they've played this year
because they had a comeback

1488
01:19:02,810 --> 01:19:05,850
against Albany State.
I don't know what Albany State

1489
01:19:05,850 --> 01:19:07,770
is.
I want to say D2 I don't think.

1490
01:19:07,850 --> 01:19:12,610
I think at their FCSOK and then
ECU last week same thing.

1491
01:19:12,610 --> 01:19:15,530
This is not a good ECU team this
year and they had a comeback on

1492
01:19:15,530 --> 01:19:18,010
them.
So hearing how good they played

1493
01:19:18,010 --> 01:19:22,240
offensively, hear an explosive
running plays, something's not

1494
01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:26,240
quite either they are hitting
home runs at the exact right

1495
01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:31,400
time to win games or there's a
lot more that's going on behind

1496
01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:36,360
the scenes there about why they
are struggling with not the best

1497
01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:38,840
of teams.
Let's flip to the sensitive side

1498
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:41,760
of the ball, Brian.
Let's talk about the schemes and

1499
01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:45,320
something unique we're probably
going to see from their

1500
01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:47,200
defensive coordinator, Jason
Samoa.

1501
01:19:49,530 --> 01:19:53,650
Yeah, I mean it's a, it's a,
it's a 425I mean he calls it

1502
01:19:53,650 --> 01:19:57,930
A425I mean it looks like a 245.
They they they used to stand up

1503
01:19:58,730 --> 01:20:02,130
D NS.
And the reason I say it's more

1504
01:20:02,130 --> 01:20:07,890
of a 4245 is that they do use
those those ends in a lot of

1505
01:20:07,890 --> 01:20:10,090
zone blitz schemes, right.
So that they're they're dropping

1506
01:20:10,090 --> 01:20:13,490
those guys in coverage on a
regular basis, not, not

1507
01:20:13,490 --> 01:20:16,090
necessarily both at the same
time, but sometimes they do, but

1508
01:20:16,370 --> 01:20:21,500
it's usually one or the other.
You know the he's the he's the

1509
01:20:21,500 --> 01:20:24,460
new guy, first year taking over
for Lance Guidry.

1510
01:20:25,780 --> 01:20:27,300
Scheme is pretty much the same
though.

1511
01:20:27,580 --> 01:20:31,620
So you're not going to see a
bunch of different, different

1512
01:20:32,220 --> 01:20:34,740
differences from a scheme
perspective, but it's deployed a

1513
01:20:34,740 --> 01:20:36,460
little bit different.
You got a new guy that's calling

1514
01:20:36,460 --> 01:20:38,980
the place in there.
All right.

1515
01:20:38,980 --> 01:20:41,940
So it's always interesting
anytime you see a change in play

1516
01:20:41,940 --> 01:20:44,500
caller as we're seeing on the
defense this year.

1517
01:20:45,190 --> 01:20:47,390
It can happen and things can
change.

1518
01:20:47,390 --> 01:20:49,870
Let's talk about some of the
players on their defensive side

1519
01:20:49,870 --> 01:20:52,990
of the ball and I'm going to
start with Sam Burden of 6 foot

1520
01:20:52,990 --> 01:20:57,830
two ��230 defensive lineman.
He is at a Spanish river

1521
01:20:57,830 --> 01:21:01,550
community in Boca Raton, FL.
He is a class of 2018 eighteen

1522
01:21:01,550 --> 01:21:05,390
19202122.
He is a fifth year guy, probably

1523
01:21:05,390 --> 01:21:07,990
with a COVID year of eligibility
left.

1524
01:21:08,430 --> 01:21:12,640
Not a lot of offers coming out.
The Thune Cookman FIU or some

1525
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:16,000
that did give him some offers.
FIU as a walk on offer.

1526
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:19,360
But you know what?
As a two star guy, he's gotten

1527
01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:23,480
to Marshall and he's actually
made a kind of a decent career

1528
01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:26,200
of it so far.
Especially the last two years.

1529
01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:31,880
21 and 2261 Total tackles, 11
1/2 titles for loss along with

1530
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:34,680
eight sacks already starting
this year with a strong

1531
01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:40,160
campaign. 6 tackle, excuse me, 9
tackles, 3 1/2 sacks.

1532
01:21:40,620 --> 01:21:45,060
Brian what is his tape showing
as far as it goes and does he

1533
01:21:45,060 --> 01:21:47,980
stand up or is he up and down
with his hand?

1534
01:21:47,980 --> 01:21:50,900
He's the standup guy.
Unless they go into like a true

1535
01:21:50,900 --> 01:21:56,020
dime package, which they will
from time to time, that dime

1536
01:21:56,020 --> 01:21:58,340
package is kind of a a three man
line.

1537
01:21:59,060 --> 01:22:02,620
So the the the two standup D n's
will be the the the hand of the

1538
01:22:02,620 --> 01:22:06,380
dirt D n's and that look there.
But he's a he's a standup.

1539
01:22:06,380 --> 01:22:08,860
You call him outside linebacker
and call him DN depending on

1540
01:22:08,860 --> 01:22:10,750
which way you want to spin it
there.

1541
01:22:10,750 --> 01:22:12,430
But he's their best all around D
lineman.

1542
01:22:12,430 --> 01:22:15,470
We'll call him a D lineman in
this case, really good

1543
01:22:15,470 --> 01:22:19,950
combinations of strength and
speed and he will get, like I

1544
01:22:19,950 --> 01:22:22,750
said he will get dropped in
coverage on zone blitz calls

1545
01:22:22,750 --> 01:22:25,110
there.
They'll also use them as a spy

1546
01:22:26,230 --> 01:22:28,590
if you got an athletic
quarterback, so look for that.

1547
01:22:28,590 --> 01:22:33,830
If Drones is the guy this week
and like I said, when they

1548
01:22:34,030 --> 01:22:36,910
rarely go into that dime look,
he'll be the in that four eye

1549
01:22:36,910 --> 01:22:41,560
alignment.
We got anything extra on him

1550
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:44,360
Shelton from analytics
perspective?

1551
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:48,240
Yes, he is the 4th highest
rating group of five edge

1552
01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:51,400
rusher.
He's got 12 quarterback

1553
01:22:51,400 --> 01:22:55,080
pressures and 51 pass rush
opportunities, which is around

1554
01:22:56,440 --> 01:22:58,800
25%.
So about quarter, the time he's

1555
01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:00,920
getting to the quarterback.
Quarter the time he's getting

1556
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:02,920
the quarterback and I hear 3 1/2
sacks.

1557
01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:05,160
It sounds like when he
pressures, it's 1/3 of a time

1558
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:07,880
he's getting there when he puts
the pressure on so.

1559
01:23:09,420 --> 01:23:11,780
Why do you keep putting higher
and higher numbers on all these

1560
01:23:11,780 --> 01:23:13,940
guys, Sheldon?
I mean, it's not going to, it's

1561
01:23:13,940 --> 01:23:15,780
not going to get better.
They they've got a good defense.

1562
01:23:15,780 --> 01:23:18,260
It's not getting better.
Well, may well, who's the next

1563
01:23:18,260 --> 01:23:21,140
guy we going to talk about Tally
so Sheldon can make us feel

1564
01:23:21,140 --> 01:23:23,860
worse?
Talking about linebackers, Eli

1565
01:23:23,860 --> 01:23:29,660
Neal for linebacker, where I was
#24, it's about 6 foot 226 out

1566
01:23:29,660 --> 01:23:32,860
of high school.
He went to a white station there

1567
01:23:32,860 --> 01:23:36,420
in Memphis, TN.
Not a ton.

1568
01:23:36,420 --> 01:23:39,330
A ton of.
Big offers out of high school.

1569
01:23:39,330 --> 01:23:46,930
He had about 15 offers, one
being Arkansas, I'm sorry, one

1570
01:23:46,930 --> 01:23:49,250
being Arkansas.
So Arkansas and Marshall offered

1571
01:23:49,250 --> 01:23:52,450
him.
He went to our went to to

1572
01:23:52,450 --> 01:23:55,530
Marshall.
He is a 2019 guy so he's been

1573
01:23:55,530 --> 01:24:03,090
there for a little bit.
He was 2020 All Conference USA

1574
01:24:03,130 --> 01:24:06,810
Honorable mention. 2021 All
Conference USA Honorable

1575
01:24:06,810 --> 01:24:16,340
Mention. 2022 Honorable mention
in 2020 in 23, he is a preseason

1576
01:24:16,340 --> 01:24:20,900
All Sunbelt Conference second
team with Phil Steele, and then

1577
01:24:20,900 --> 01:24:25,180
2023 preseason all Sunbelt
Conference first team with

1578
01:24:25,220 --> 01:24:27,300
Athlon.
So that's just a little bit of

1579
01:24:27,300 --> 01:24:30,820
accolades that he's had or how
they feel about him.

1580
01:24:31,860 --> 01:24:36,500
Where's my other stat on him?
Just what he's doing this year?

1581
01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:42,040
From what it's showing, it says
he has about 14 tackles so far

1582
01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:48,360
this year, so each game he's had
about 7 tackles, half a sack in

1583
01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:51,400
the in the first game.
That's what I'm seeing on him.

1584
01:24:51,400 --> 01:24:55,400
Brian, what you got?
Yeah, he plays that Mike

1585
01:24:55,400 --> 01:24:57,840
linebacker for them.
He he's very effective against

1586
01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:00,680
the run.
So you know it.

1587
01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:03,960
It's going to be hard finding
some space in that middle there,

1588
01:25:04,780 --> 01:25:06,940
especially if we continue
blocking the way we have.

1589
01:25:07,380 --> 01:25:09,980
Does a good job of shedding
blockers, uses his hands really

1590
01:25:09,980 --> 01:25:11,860
well, is really physical at the
point of attack.

1591
01:25:13,020 --> 01:25:14,860
The only thing I'd say he can
get fooled with some

1592
01:25:14,860 --> 01:25:19,900
misdirection, whether it's
motion or whether it's using

1593
01:25:19,900 --> 01:25:22,380
your offensive line to kind of
create misdirection, whether

1594
01:25:22,380 --> 01:25:27,380
it's in a counter or some sort
of RPO going away from the flow.

1595
01:25:28,750 --> 01:25:32,190
He he does primarily key on the
guard, so if you can play around

1596
01:25:32,190 --> 01:25:34,070
with that, sometimes you can get
him out of position.

1597
01:25:34,070 --> 01:25:38,430
But very sound linebacker
overall and good playmaker all.

1598
01:25:41,990 --> 01:25:45,190
Right, bring us break.
The more bad news where is he

1599
01:25:45,190 --> 01:25:48,270
like the best linebacker in the
G5 level?

1600
01:25:48,310 --> 01:25:50,830
Shelton.
Not quite, but he does have

1601
01:25:50,830 --> 01:25:56,510
another good pass pass rush
grade up at 83. 66 quarterback

1602
01:25:56,510 --> 01:26:01,550
pressures in in 12 or excuse me,
five in nine opportunities.

1603
01:26:01,550 --> 01:26:04,230
So a small sample there, but
like I said, I mean these guys

1604
01:26:04,230 --> 01:26:07,630
just they get to the QB all.
Right.

1605
01:26:07,630 --> 01:26:10,510
We we keep hearing more about
them getting to the QB.

1606
01:26:10,750 --> 01:26:15,070
It's our offensive line.
You know what I joked with them?

1607
01:26:15,070 --> 01:26:17,550
I'm going to be at my son's
baseball game during this game,

1608
01:26:18,070 --> 01:26:20,550
with the exception of probably
about 20 minutes of it.

1609
01:26:20,630 --> 01:26:23,330
So if we win.
I don't think y'all are going to

1610
01:26:23,330 --> 01:26:24,810
allow me back in front of the
TV, right?

1611
01:26:24,810 --> 01:26:27,730
Especially as good as they are
statistic standpoint.

1612
01:26:27,730 --> 01:26:30,370
No more, No more Vt guns for you
the rest of the year.

1613
01:26:30,890 --> 01:26:35,210
Live I can watch it on replay
when it's over right One more

1614
01:26:35,210 --> 01:26:38,250
player to hit up here and his
name is Daytoni Smith.

1615
01:26:38,250 --> 01:26:42,810
He is a defensive back from
Highland Springs High School.

1616
01:26:42,810 --> 01:26:46,210
Boys Highland Springs High
School had to throw them all

1617
01:26:46,210 --> 01:26:48,570
here.
Was a two star prospect when he

1618
01:26:48,570 --> 01:26:55,130
came out back in 2020.
So far this year, 11 total

1619
01:26:55,130 --> 01:26:56,930
tackles.
He does have one sack.

1620
01:26:56,930 --> 01:26:59,530
He has a past deflection, played
in eight games.

1621
01:26:59,530 --> 01:27:03,170
Last year we also had 18
tackles, 3 past deflections and

1622
01:27:03,610 --> 01:27:06,530
just a very short time frame
There.

1623
01:27:07,410 --> 01:27:09,930
They put him as defensive back.
Where is he going?

1624
01:27:09,930 --> 01:27:11,570
Sigla?
We're going to see him at one

1625
01:27:11,570 --> 01:27:13,050
specific spot or is he move
around?

1626
01:27:14,330 --> 01:27:16,610
He's moved around.
I've seen, I mean he's listed as

1627
01:27:16,610 --> 01:27:22,110
a cornerback, but I've seen him
at safety in pretty much I'd say

1628
01:27:22,110 --> 01:27:25,270
75% of the steps I've watched.
He's lining up at safety.

1629
01:27:27,270 --> 01:27:30,030
He'll he'll kind of be that
third safety in this look here.

1630
01:27:30,670 --> 01:27:33,190
They'll also put him at corner,
but he's really strong in man

1631
01:27:33,190 --> 01:27:34,990
coverage.
That's where he excels.

1632
01:27:36,030 --> 01:27:41,110
I haven't seen him play a huge
factor in in run support, but

1633
01:27:41,110 --> 01:27:43,830
when he does, he is very
competent and he he tackles

1634
01:27:43,830 --> 01:27:47,230
pretty well and they'll use him
in a lot of the blitz packages.

1635
01:27:47,230 --> 01:27:51,790
He's very effective in getting
home, not always getting the

1636
01:27:51,790 --> 01:27:54,430
sack, but he will get there and
cause a little bit of disruption

1637
01:27:54,430 --> 01:27:59,070
in the backfield.
Alrighty, anything exclusive on

1638
01:27:59,070 --> 01:28:02,790
him, Shelton?
Yeah, Brian's eye test kind of

1639
01:28:02,790 --> 01:28:05,590
lined up with most of the
grades, Good in coverage, not so

1640
01:28:05,590 --> 01:28:08,910
good in in run sport.
And like he was saying, he has

1641
01:28:08,910 --> 01:28:12,670
been used in a lot of different
positions, so some in the box

1642
01:28:12,670 --> 01:28:15,150
summit free safety and some of
the slot as well.

1643
01:28:15,150 --> 01:28:17,990
So very versatile, versatile
player.

1644
01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:21,560
All right, done shocked me
coming from Highland Springs and

1645
01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:24,720
what they do out there.
So there is no the enemy.

1646
01:28:24,720 --> 01:28:28,160
Some players and some things to
look for during the game on

1647
01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:31,960
Saturday at 12 on ESPN2 for the
second time this year.

1648
01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:35,720
But now let's talk about what
the Hokies keys are and I'm

1649
01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:38,640
going to start with Shelton.
Shelton, what is your key for

1650
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:40,680
the Hokies this week?
Yeah.

1651
01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:43,480
So I my key was secondary play.
I mean it's got to be better.

1652
01:28:43,480 --> 01:28:45,400
You look at, you know, the
running numbers they've been

1653
01:28:45,400 --> 01:28:47,800
giving up, I think most that
falls on the guys in the back

1654
01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:50,250
seven.
You look at the the freshman

1655
01:28:50,250 --> 01:28:53,290
tech is playing between Caleb
Woodson most fields, you throw

1656
01:28:53,290 --> 01:28:55,970
Jalen Jones in there it has not
been great.

1657
01:28:56,010 --> 01:28:58,810
I mean these are some of you
know the worst grades and and

1658
01:28:58,810 --> 01:29:01,570
all the power five quite frankly
at their respective positions.

1659
01:29:01,570 --> 01:29:05,210
We saw them try monster lanes,
summit safety, but that's not

1660
01:29:05,210 --> 01:29:06,850
going to be you know a
dependable strategy for the

1661
01:29:06,850 --> 01:29:10,050
entire game.
So the secretary play has to be

1662
01:29:10,050 --> 01:29:12,570
better.
I think they need to do better

1663
01:29:12,570 --> 01:29:14,690
job of sticking to their
assignments and playing

1664
01:29:14,690 --> 01:29:20,330
anticipatory football.
All righty, Sigla, what do you

1665
01:29:20,330 --> 01:29:23,130
got this week as far as your
hokey keys go?

1666
01:29:24,130 --> 01:29:27,090
Get home.
We've got to get in the

1667
01:29:27,090 --> 01:29:30,850
backfield, whether that's
disrupting, using the defensive

1668
01:29:30,850 --> 01:29:33,690
line to disrupt the rushing
lanes, get those tackles for

1669
01:29:33,690 --> 01:29:37,250
losses, but also getting after
the quarterback and putting them

1670
01:29:37,370 --> 01:29:43,210
behind the chains significantly.
Because right now, teams that

1671
01:29:43,210 --> 01:29:47,220
right now feel that they can run
the football against us if the

1672
01:29:47,220 --> 01:29:50,900
down and distance is 8 or less,
they they're comfortable.

1673
01:29:50,900 --> 01:29:52,820
Are it's third, third and eight,
Fuck it.

1674
01:29:52,820 --> 01:29:54,060
We'll run the ball against this
team.

1675
01:29:54,060 --> 01:29:55,140
We'll probably get the first
down.

1676
01:29:55,980 --> 01:29:59,180
We've got to get the Marshall
behind the sticks consistently

1677
01:29:59,180 --> 01:30:02,500
and make them have to go to the
throw and then we have to

1678
01:30:02,500 --> 01:30:05,660
continue to tackle well.
If we can do that, we can slow

1679
01:30:05,660 --> 01:30:08,780
this team down all.
Righty, Tally.

1680
01:30:09,320 --> 01:30:13,280
I think after here Tally wrote
this down the a couple last

1681
01:30:13,280 --> 01:30:15,840
night and then after hearing
Shelton's, it's even going to be

1682
01:30:15,840 --> 01:30:17,840
more clear, right?
Yeah, we got to keep the

1683
01:30:17,840 --> 01:30:20,360
quarterback clean, man.
Got to keep the quarterback

1684
01:30:20,360 --> 01:30:23,400
clean.
He ran the ball 22 times against

1685
01:30:23,400 --> 01:30:24,960
Rutgers.
So he's going to get out and

1686
01:30:24,960 --> 01:30:27,240
he's going to try to make some
plays, put his feet.

1687
01:30:27,240 --> 01:30:29,720
But when he's in the pocket and
he's trying to deliver throws,

1688
01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:33,640
especially after hearing about
all the people that they have

1689
01:30:33,960 --> 01:30:36,520
that are rushing the passer,
that are getting home, that are,

1690
01:30:36,840 --> 01:30:41,100
you know, just.
Causing chaos in the backfield.

1691
01:30:41,300 --> 01:30:44,660
We got to keep whoever the
quarterback is there upright.

1692
01:30:44,900 --> 01:30:46,740
It's covering drones.
We got to keep them clean.

1693
01:30:47,100 --> 01:30:49,060
If it's Grant wells, we got to
keep them clean because if we

1694
01:30:49,060 --> 01:30:51,180
don't do that, it's going to get
ugly for us.

1695
01:30:52,500 --> 01:30:55,100
Yeah, I agree with you there.
I got a little one on the

1696
01:30:55,100 --> 01:30:57,900
offensive side of the ball too
and it's going to be third down

1697
01:30:57,900 --> 01:30:59,700
efficiency.
We need to continue the

1698
01:30:59,700 --> 01:31:02,740
improvement for due on 3rd and
4th down conversions.

1699
01:31:02,740 --> 01:31:07,000
We were 21%.
That took a significant

1700
01:31:07,000 --> 01:31:12,240
increase, almost 100% increase.
Going against Rutgers went up to

1701
01:31:12,240 --> 01:31:15,880
39%.
We need to continue to do that.

1702
01:31:15,960 --> 01:31:19,520
If for nothing else, it's going
to help the defense if we're

1703
01:31:19,520 --> 01:31:23,120
staying off the field.
We dominated TOP versus Rutgers.

1704
01:31:23,120 --> 01:31:25,880
I think that's one reason why
the dam didn't break until as

1705
01:31:25,880 --> 01:31:29,320
late as it did, because we did
keep them off the field.

1706
01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:32,320
So keep that trending in the
right direction.

1707
01:31:32,320 --> 01:31:35,200
Keep converting the third downs,
keep converting the 4th downs.

1708
01:31:35,590 --> 01:31:38,190
I will say this Brent Prize
aggressiveness.

1709
01:31:38,190 --> 01:31:41,310
This year I've liked.
There's been times where it's

1710
01:31:41,310 --> 01:31:43,670
like we're not pun, we're not
going, we're trying to score

1711
01:31:43,670 --> 01:31:47,510
points, which does make me a
happy individual.

1712
01:31:47,990 --> 01:31:50,950
So Sheldon, you got one more
thing you want to throw in on

1713
01:31:50,950 --> 01:31:52,230
this?
Yeah.

1714
01:31:52,230 --> 01:31:55,190
So just to find out where I'm
Marshall, obviously, they've

1715
01:31:55,190 --> 01:31:56,830
really struggled to run the ball
this year.

1716
01:31:57,830 --> 01:32:00,070
We talked about the really good
pass protection, I think if

1717
01:32:00,070 --> 01:32:02,230
you're looking for comps to
Virginia Tech's previous

1718
01:32:02,230 --> 01:32:04,590
opponents.
Their offense is probably not

1719
01:32:04,590 --> 01:32:07,230
quite as good as Rutgers, but
definitely a much more

1720
01:32:07,230 --> 01:32:09,550
formidable opponent than than
Old Dominion was.

1721
01:32:10,870 --> 01:32:13,270
They have a very experienced
defense, They've got multiple

1722
01:32:13,590 --> 01:32:16,070
4th year starters, 5th year
starters, even one sixth year

1723
01:32:16,070 --> 01:32:19,750
player, and you know, bottom
line, this is a really, really

1724
01:32:19,750 --> 01:32:22,150
good defensive program.
Not just team, but program.

1725
01:32:22,470 --> 01:32:26,310
You look at over the past three
years and SP plus defensive

1726
01:32:26,310 --> 01:32:31,120
rankings 22nd, 41st and 8th.
So they had the 8th best defense

1727
01:32:31,120 --> 01:32:33,600
of the country last year
according to SP Plus and that's

1728
01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:36,080
adjusted for strength of
schedule, everything so that you

1729
01:32:36,080 --> 01:32:37,600
know that takes without all the
teams are playing.

1730
01:32:38,040 --> 01:32:39,680
This is a really, really good
defensive program.

1731
01:32:39,680 --> 01:32:43,240
So as we can see by the the
Vegas line do not expect a lot

1732
01:32:43,240 --> 01:32:45,800
of points and Bridget Tech is
going to have to try really hard

1733
01:32:45,800 --> 01:32:47,840
to to get some points on the
scoreboard today.

1734
01:32:47,880 --> 01:32:49,880
So I expect a grudge match.
Alrighty.

1735
01:32:50,450 --> 01:32:53,050
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1742
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This week this is my boy
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1743
01:33:16,790 --> 01:33:19,030
If he's hurt, I might take this
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1744
01:33:19,110 --> 01:33:22,310
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1745
01:33:22,310 --> 01:33:27,590
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Last week we all picked the
exact same record, everybody was

1753
01:33:57,840 --> 01:34:00,960
two and five.
So if you're bend the lines on

1754
01:34:00,960 --> 01:34:06,280
our games, maybe not, but we'll
say Tally, you're starting it

1755
01:34:06,280 --> 01:34:08,240
off.
What's going to happen this week

1756
01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:10,880
at Marshall?
You know what, man?

1757
01:34:10,880 --> 01:34:14,940
I'm going to say.
Last week I picked Rutgers to

1758
01:34:14,940 --> 01:34:17,700
win.
This week I'm going to go, I'm

1759
01:34:17,700 --> 01:34:19,060
going to go with the Hokies,
man.

1760
01:34:19,260 --> 01:34:22,500
I think that we're going to go
in, we're going to have a little

1761
01:34:22,500 --> 01:34:26,900
bit more of a game plan or what
we need to do, and I'm going to

1762
01:34:26,900 --> 01:34:30,340
say Hokies pull this game off
2821.

1763
01:34:34,580 --> 01:34:38,380
I'm taking the Hokies, man.
If if we don't get this one,

1764
01:34:38,380 --> 01:34:40,020
though, I'm going to start
having a little bit of doubt

1765
01:34:40,020 --> 01:34:42,090
creeping in.
You're probably going to see

1766
01:34:42,090 --> 01:34:48,690
another team's logo pop up next
week, but I'm going Hokies 27th,

1767
01:34:48,690 --> 01:34:51,770
Marshall 21.
I think it's kind of a

1768
01:34:51,770 --> 01:34:53,930
Grindfest.
I think we get one late to kind

1769
01:34:53,930 --> 01:34:56,650
of put it over the top.
All right, Shelton.

1770
01:34:58,050 --> 01:35:01,010
I'm taking the Hokies also
outright, mainly based on gut

1771
01:35:01,010 --> 01:35:03,730
feel.
I think Kyron Jones is going to

1772
01:35:03,810 --> 01:35:05,490
make a couple of big plays with
his feet.

1773
01:35:06,160 --> 01:35:08,320
Even though I'm concerned about
this matchup because Marshall

1774
01:35:08,320 --> 01:35:11,360
has some lockdown corners and
obviously they they don't really

1775
01:35:11,360 --> 01:35:14,280
let anyone get to the
quarterback, I I just got to go

1776
01:35:14,280 --> 01:35:16,480
with my gut, my gut saying BT,
they're going to make a couple

1777
01:35:16,480 --> 01:35:18,680
big plays late and they're going
to come away with a with a close

1778
01:35:18,680 --> 01:35:20,880
win.
All righty, I'm I'm with y'all

1779
01:35:20,880 --> 01:35:23,440
as well.
A little different score, 2717

1780
01:35:23,440 --> 01:35:26,400
here.
Hokies win again.

1781
01:35:26,800 --> 01:35:30,120
It's Utah, the Gut Field Show.
And I think it's also, you watch

1782
01:35:30,120 --> 01:35:33,120
them play as good as they are,
statistically as good as they

1783
01:35:33,200 --> 01:35:38,350
are, they have been in two wars.
The Albany State game has to be

1784
01:35:38,350 --> 01:35:40,910
questioned.
They were down and had to have

1785
01:35:40,910 --> 01:35:43,470
two fourth quarter scores to
come back in that game to beat

1786
01:35:43,470 --> 01:35:47,390
them 21 to 17.
That's why I'm sticking with the

1787
01:35:47,390 --> 01:35:52,310
Hokies on this one.
All righty big screeners time

1788
01:35:52,350 --> 01:35:54,990
and good God all.
When we started talking and

1789
01:35:54,990 --> 01:36:00,190
texting yesterday with the
amount of big games coming on

1790
01:36:00,190 --> 01:36:03,920
this week, it was insane.
This is my big Screener.

1791
01:36:03,960 --> 01:36:06,320
Hey, it's going to be on in the
afternoon so I will get to

1792
01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:10,680
actually watch it.
After baseball, we got the

1793
01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:14,080
Colorado Buffaloes who pulled
out somewhat of a miracle

1794
01:36:14,080 --> 01:36:18,280
against Colorado State for all
those I saw somebody put up

1795
01:36:18,280 --> 01:36:20,560
there the other day.
I don't know how my body's doing

1796
01:36:20,560 --> 01:36:22,120
is staying up to 2:00 in the
morning.

1797
01:36:22,360 --> 01:36:25,080
Y'all are some non veteran
people out there.

1798
01:36:26,370 --> 01:36:30,610
Veteran of PAC 12 after dark.
You stand until 2:00 all the

1799
01:36:30,610 --> 01:36:33,410
time to watch the late games on
the West Coast and people

1800
01:36:33,410 --> 01:36:35,330
complaining.
Get up at 2:00 or go to bed at

1801
01:36:35,330 --> 01:36:38,010
2:00.
Wake up at 6:30 with the kids in

1802
01:36:38,010 --> 01:36:41,050
this game.
That is a massive line.

1803
01:36:41,250 --> 01:36:43,130
Colorado is going to score
points.

1804
01:36:43,130 --> 01:36:44,970
I do not have a doubt about
that.

1805
01:36:45,450 --> 01:36:49,480
I do think Oregon wins, but.
You're going to give me 19 1/2

1806
01:36:49,480 --> 01:36:52,280
points With the way Shamir
Sanders and that offenses looked

1807
01:36:52,280 --> 01:36:55,520
thus far, I will take it.
I don't know what the Over under

1808
01:36:55,520 --> 01:36:57,920
is, but lock that up as well
because this is going to be a

1809
01:36:57,960 --> 01:37:04,560
shootout at the zoo in Austin.
Yeah, let's see who's next on

1810
01:37:04,560 --> 01:37:05,520
that one.
Tally.

1811
01:37:05,560 --> 01:37:07,400
Tally, who you got?
Yeah, man, I'm.

1812
01:37:07,400 --> 01:37:10,960
I'm taking to Colorado as well.
I think Oregon wins that game.

1813
01:37:11,320 --> 01:37:14,040
But you know, 19 1/2 points,
that's a lot of points, man.

1814
01:37:14,040 --> 01:37:18,350
I don't think that, Oregon.
Blows them off the field by 20

1815
01:37:18,350 --> 01:37:20,270
points.
No way.

1816
01:37:20,550 --> 01:37:22,070
No way.
You're with me here.

1817
01:37:22,430 --> 01:37:25,390
All righty, what about this one
for you?

1818
01:37:26,270 --> 01:37:28,630
I'm going with the Buffs.
Oregon will win the game.

1819
01:37:28,630 --> 01:37:30,750
But sure, Sanders is a gamer.
He's not going to go down

1820
01:37:30,750 --> 01:37:35,670
without a fight.
Brian, we're going across the

1821
01:37:35,670 --> 01:37:37,150
board here.
I'm right there with you.

1822
01:37:37,150 --> 01:37:40,470
I think Sanders is going to be a
gamer.

1823
01:37:41,390 --> 01:37:45,040
Even if they fall behind 123
stores, I think you'll do

1824
01:37:45,040 --> 01:37:47,040
something late, kind of bring
that thing close.

1825
01:37:47,560 --> 01:37:50,520
I do think Oregon ends up
pulling up the wind, but 19 1/2

1826
01:37:50,520 --> 01:37:52,320
is just too much water.
Way too much.

1827
01:37:52,680 --> 01:37:56,000
By the way, we should have got
this line earlier or later.

1828
01:37:56,080 --> 01:37:58,760
Like an hour ago it went up to
21.

1829
01:37:59,080 --> 01:38:02,600
Just so y'all know I'd even be
hammering buffaloes even more.

1830
01:38:02,840 --> 01:38:07,440
71 1/2 is the over under.
That seems way too way too

1831
01:38:07,440 --> 01:38:10,120
small.
All righty Brian, you are up

1832
01:38:10,120 --> 01:38:11,800
next.
What game do you have on the

1833
01:38:11,800 --> 01:38:15,900
docket this week?
I got the Ole Miss Bama game and

1834
01:38:15,900 --> 01:38:17,900
I'm.
This is interesting.

1835
01:38:17,900 --> 01:38:21,140
I mean it's obviously 22 ranked
SEC opponents.

1836
01:38:22,140 --> 01:38:26,620
But to me this is interesting
because this might be depending

1837
01:38:26,620 --> 01:38:30,380
on what Alabama is able to do.
We haven't seen really good

1838
01:38:30,380 --> 01:38:33,780
offense from this Alabama team
in any game so far this year.

1839
01:38:35,220 --> 01:38:37,260
They're switching back to
Millro.

1840
01:38:37,260 --> 01:38:39,660
I mean they they had a
quarterback shelf of the last

1841
01:38:39,660 --> 01:38:44,120
three weeks, so I'm interested
to see what happens here.

1842
01:38:44,480 --> 01:38:47,520
But I've got Old miss.
I mean 11 1/2 is a whole lot for

1843
01:38:47,520 --> 01:38:49,160
a team that's struggling that
much delay.

1844
01:38:49,160 --> 01:38:51,440
So give me Old Miss.
It'll be a tight one.

1845
01:38:51,640 --> 01:38:54,960
I think Alabama might squeak it,
but if they don't, this could be

1846
01:38:54,960 --> 01:38:57,800
the earliest that Alabama is a
non factor.

1847
01:38:57,800 --> 01:39:04,920
Maybe in the College Football
Playoff. 2010, yeah, right. 2010

1848
01:39:05,200 --> 01:39:06,960
was the last time it was this
early.

1849
01:39:07,470 --> 01:39:09,670
And I'm with him.
By the way, we caught this line

1850
01:39:09,670 --> 01:39:12,390
at a great point.
This line has went down 4 1/2

1851
01:39:12,390 --> 01:39:14,350
points since we locked it in
yesterday.

1852
01:39:14,630 --> 01:39:18,670
Give me Ole Miss as well.
Especially the way Alabama is

1853
01:39:18,670 --> 01:39:21,870
struggling on offense.
I I I can't foresee who's gonna

1854
01:39:21,870 --> 01:39:24,460
actually win the game.
Because I feel like save it

1855
01:39:24,460 --> 01:39:27,220
against Disciples.
He always does well, but I'll

1856
01:39:27,220 --> 01:39:29,860
definitely take Ole Miss with 11
1/2 points.

1857
01:39:29,940 --> 01:39:33,060
Tally tally who you got.
Yeah, I'm going to Ole Miss as

1858
01:39:33,060 --> 01:39:36,140
well, man.
I mean, Alabama making another

1859
01:39:36,140 --> 01:39:38,260
quarterback change.
They've been in quarterback

1860
01:39:38,260 --> 01:39:41,980
disarray, worse than the Hokies
as far as who's going to play,

1861
01:39:41,980 --> 01:39:46,740
who's not going to play Lane
usually if he just goes out and

1862
01:39:46,740 --> 01:39:49,890
coaches a football game.
I think it'll be a good game.

1863
01:39:49,930 --> 01:39:53,970
You know, Lane, last year, he
gets so caught up in the him

1864
01:39:53,970 --> 01:39:56,330
versus saving thing.
He just makes stupid, you know,

1865
01:39:56,330 --> 01:39:58,970
going for it on his own 30 and
stuff like that.

1866
01:39:59,250 --> 01:40:02,210
If he just goes out and he
coaches a football game, I think

1867
01:40:02,490 --> 01:40:05,530
we'll have a close game again.
I can't pick who wins that game,

1868
01:40:05,810 --> 01:40:08,970
but I don't think Alabama beats
him by 12 points.

1869
01:40:10,210 --> 01:40:13,010
But you shall.
Yeah, I'm taking Bama mainly

1870
01:40:13,010 --> 01:40:18,870
because Nick Saban.
I I trust a a mad Nick Saban led

1871
01:40:18,870 --> 01:40:20,710
team.
I know they did not play well.

1872
01:40:20,910 --> 01:40:22,150
They did not play well last
week.

1873
01:40:22,190 --> 01:40:23,070
I know he's going to give it to
them.

1874
01:40:23,070 --> 01:40:24,510
So they're going to come out
motivated this week?

1875
01:40:25,350 --> 01:40:26,830
That's fair.
That is fair.

1876
01:40:27,790 --> 01:40:29,270
That is very fair.
It is.

1877
01:40:29,270 --> 01:40:31,430
He easily bounces back pretty
strong.

1878
01:40:32,110 --> 01:40:37,230
All right, Tally, where are you
going on Saturday afternoon with

1879
01:40:37,230 --> 01:40:40,630
your big Screener?
We got to go Clemson, Florida

1880
01:40:40,630 --> 01:40:42,350
State, man.
I mean, everybody picked them to

1881
01:40:42,350 --> 01:40:48,540
be at the top of ACC this year.
We got Florida State, what 2 1/2

1882
01:40:48,540 --> 01:40:51,180
points, 3 1/2 three and a half.
We called it early.

1883
01:40:51,300 --> 01:40:57,700
I thought we got a 3 1/2.
We got a 2 1/2. 2 1/2 Yeah, man,

1884
01:40:57,700 --> 01:40:59,380
you know what?
I'm taking Clemson.

1885
01:40:59,940 --> 01:41:02,460
I'm taking Clemson in this game.
I've seen some kings in the

1886
01:41:02,460 --> 01:41:04,900
armor for Florida State.
We've been talking about Florida

1887
01:41:04,900 --> 01:41:10,820
State being a being a College
Football Playoff team and and

1888
01:41:10,820 --> 01:41:13,940
they may, but you know, I think
Clemson has something to prove.

1889
01:41:14,340 --> 01:41:18,180
I've seen BC give.
I know it's the red banana game.

1890
01:41:18,180 --> 01:41:21,540
I know those games are crazy.
But I'm not just ready to say

1891
01:41:21,660 --> 01:41:25,580
Florida State is all the way
back, so I'm taking Clemson

1892
01:41:27,460 --> 01:41:31,040
Sheldon.
Yes, I'm taking FSU.

1893
01:41:31,040 --> 01:41:34,120
I think FSU is at the point now
in terms of their recruiting

1894
01:41:34,120 --> 01:41:36,760
development where they have the
skill guys to compete with

1895
01:41:36,760 --> 01:41:38,560
Clemson.
Personally, I think Clemson

1896
01:41:38,560 --> 01:41:40,400
skill players are a little bit
average.

1897
01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:43,280
So I think this is a game where
I expect FSU to win.

1898
01:41:43,280 --> 01:41:45,400
I think they've got the the
better quarterback and they're

1899
01:41:45,400 --> 01:41:46,360
gonna they're gonna win this
game.

1900
01:41:47,440 --> 01:41:49,520
Yeah.
Down in Death Valley high noon

1901
01:41:49,880 --> 01:41:52,960
so opposite of the Hokies game
so get you definitely get you

1902
01:41:52,960 --> 01:41:56,600
two screens going.
I'm I'm with Shelton on this

1903
01:41:56,600 --> 01:42:00,940
tally and I think what happened
in the Red Bandana game was the

1904
01:42:00,940 --> 01:42:03,300
best thing that happened to
Florida State.

1905
01:42:03,900 --> 01:42:07,380
They got challenged by a team a
lot lesser than them in a

1906
01:42:07,380 --> 01:42:10,820
hostile environment.
If they go up there and blow the

1907
01:42:10,820 --> 01:42:15,220
doors off, BCI might lean the
other way.

1908
01:42:15,220 --> 01:42:17,940
But I think having that
adversity, it's an easy thing to

1909
01:42:17,940 --> 01:42:19,780
coach to like.
Look what just happened.

1910
01:42:19,820 --> 01:42:22,820
We took our foot off the gas.
We took our off the prize.

1911
01:42:22,980 --> 01:42:27,150
We damn near loss to a team that
almost lost the Holy Cross and

1912
01:42:27,150 --> 01:42:30,030
did lose to Northern Illinois.
Give me the Knowles.

1913
01:42:30,030 --> 01:42:31,830
Give me the Knowles by two
scores.

1914
01:42:32,710 --> 01:42:35,670
Oh, OK, I'm give me the.
He's locking it up.

1915
01:42:35,990 --> 01:42:38,190
He's locking it up.
I'm saying it's going to be a

1916
01:42:38,830 --> 01:42:41,030
they're going, they're going to
dispatch a Clemson pretty easy.

1917
01:42:41,270 --> 01:42:46,110
Well, not easy, but you know.
Well, I'm going Florida State as

1918
01:42:46,110 --> 01:42:48,590
well here and for a lot of the
same reasons.

1919
01:42:49,870 --> 01:42:51,910
You know, I think talent wise
they're there.

1920
01:42:51,910 --> 01:42:55,070
But Curtis mentioned it.
They got a test.

1921
01:42:55,380 --> 01:42:57,900
I think we're going to see a
similar type of urgency that we

1922
01:42:57,900 --> 01:43:02,300
saw from UNC against Minnesota
after they had that scare at App

1923
01:43:02,300 --> 01:43:04,500
State.
I think it's going to be a

1924
01:43:04,500 --> 01:43:07,900
similar type situation.
Florida State comes out focused,

1925
01:43:08,340 --> 01:43:12,340
ready to handle Clemson.
And I think as Shelton said, the

1926
01:43:12,340 --> 01:43:14,580
skill position players for
Clemson are very pedestrian.

1927
01:43:15,340 --> 01:43:17,020
You got Shipley and then a bunch
of guys.

1928
01:43:17,020 --> 01:43:21,860
There's there's not really a
standout, a ton of standout

1929
01:43:21,860 --> 01:43:23,420
skill position players like
they're used to having.

1930
01:43:23,420 --> 01:43:27,810
So give me Florida State here.
Alrighty.

1931
01:43:29,290 --> 01:43:33,050
And if that wasn't enough,
Shelton's pick is, I think, the

1932
01:43:33,050 --> 01:43:37,890
highest rated game of the week
#9 against #6.

1933
01:43:37,890 --> 01:43:39,650
Sheldon, who'd you pick on
yours?

1934
01:43:40,290 --> 01:43:44,210
Give me the Buckeyes.
I trust Ryan Day.

1935
01:43:44,210 --> 01:43:46,290
I'm a big Ryan Day fan.
I know he's kind of

1936
01:43:46,290 --> 01:43:48,850
underperformed and in some of
those big time games, but I

1937
01:43:48,850 --> 01:43:50,850
think this is the one where he
gets him back and he gets a big,

1938
01:43:51,330 --> 01:43:55,690
I'd say, fan base.
Inducing confidence Win.

1939
01:43:59,450 --> 01:44:01,690
The way they've looked.
He needs it.

1940
01:44:01,810 --> 01:44:03,770
I who you got Tally.
Tally.

1941
01:44:04,490 --> 01:44:06,290
Man, I'm gonna go Notre Dame in
this, man.

1942
01:44:06,290 --> 01:44:08,370
I just, I've watched Sam
Hartman.

1943
01:44:08,530 --> 01:44:10,050
They had a show.
I can't remember what the name

1944
01:44:10,050 --> 01:44:13,690
of the show is, but I watched
him in high school, then it

1945
01:44:13,690 --> 01:44:15,970
watched him in college, and now
he's with the Notre Dame.

1946
01:44:15,970 --> 01:44:19,250
And I, I mean, he's a kids, a
gamer, man.

1947
01:44:19,250 --> 01:44:21,450
I think he's gonna go and he's
gonna have a good game and

1948
01:44:21,770 --> 01:44:25,050
they're gonna take this one.
Alrighty.

1949
01:44:25,450 --> 01:44:28,490
I am next on this one.
This one is at Notre Dame under

1950
01:44:28,490 --> 01:44:29,850
the touchdown.
Jesus.

1951
01:44:30,250 --> 01:44:34,050
And to be honest, just the way
the Buckeyes offense has looked,

1952
01:44:34,090 --> 01:44:36,650
I'm going to take the 3 1/2
points we're getting with the

1953
01:44:36,650 --> 01:44:38,770
Notre Dame.
I don't know who went.

1954
01:44:38,890 --> 01:44:40,410
It's just like the Ole Miss
game.

1955
01:44:40,930 --> 01:44:43,850
I that game.
I can't see Bamma winning by

1956
01:44:43,850 --> 01:44:46,890
more than two scores this game.
I think it's going to be that

1957
01:44:46,890 --> 01:44:50,730
classic 2728 game.
Whoever has the ball potentially

1958
01:44:50,730 --> 01:44:54,530
last wins, and I got to go with
Notre Dame just because of Sam

1959
01:44:54,530 --> 01:44:59,330
Hartman being at home.
Give me the points, home Dog

1960
01:44:59,330 --> 01:45:02,330
points, baby.
See.

1961
01:45:02,330 --> 01:45:04,330
Yeah, I'm.
I'm going to Ohio State here.

1962
01:45:04,770 --> 01:45:09,770
I think that so far the Ohio
State hasn't really put a a

1963
01:45:09,770 --> 01:45:11,770
full, complete game out there
yet.

1964
01:45:11,770 --> 01:45:16,450
I think they buckle up for a big
ring to match up and finally do

1965
01:45:16,450 --> 01:45:18,260
that.
And I think they're able to

1966
01:45:18,260 --> 01:45:20,700
cover that 3 1/2.
I I think it's still like a six

1967
01:45:20,700 --> 01:45:24,220
or seven point game, but I think
they win by a score late, Wins

1968
01:45:24,220 --> 01:45:27,100
by a score late.
All right, we got one more.

1969
01:45:27,340 --> 01:45:29,380
It's just another big game this
week.

1970
01:45:29,380 --> 01:45:33,500
It's Saturday night under the
lights at Kennick Stadium where

1971
01:45:33,500 --> 01:45:37,020
top ten train, top ten teams
dreams go to die.

1972
01:45:37,500 --> 01:45:40,420
How many times if people went
into that place, they wave to

1973
01:45:40,420 --> 01:45:43,380
the kids at the hospital and the
next thing you know I was

1974
01:45:43,380 --> 01:45:47,110
beating you 1312 because some
fluky stuff happens.

1975
01:45:47,630 --> 01:45:49,590
Brian, you're going to lead out
with this one.

1976
01:45:50,070 --> 01:45:52,790
We talked we should have held on
a few more minutes on this one.

1977
01:45:52,790 --> 01:45:59,310
I guess one this one went up to
today 1330 1/2 eighteen and a

1978
01:45:59,310 --> 01:46:01,830
actually it's not at Kenneck.
I thought it was a Kenneck.

1979
01:46:05,110 --> 01:46:06,870
It's a it's at Penn State.
That's.

1980
01:46:08,150 --> 01:46:10,590
It's Penn State.
It went to 14 1/2 today.

1981
01:46:11,710 --> 01:46:16,160
So Brian, who you got?
Well, that's why I got Penn

1982
01:46:16,160 --> 01:46:20,880
State.
Yeah.

1983
01:46:21,240 --> 01:46:24,760
So if they were waving at the
kids, you know that 10 1/2 and

1984
01:46:24,760 --> 01:46:27,800
even you know what you said 14
1/2 would would be a little bit

1985
01:46:27,800 --> 01:46:32,680
much.
But in Happy Valley, 10 1/2

1986
01:46:32,680 --> 01:46:34,440
seems just about right.
So I'm going to go Penn State

1987
01:46:34,440 --> 01:46:36,800
here.
Well, my original pick was me

1988
01:46:36,800 --> 01:46:39,440
looking at it completely ass
backwards and thinking it was a

1989
01:46:39,440 --> 01:46:42,480
Kennick, not at Beaver Stadium.
Well.

1990
01:46:43,560 --> 01:46:45,870
It's on the board.
It's on the board now, Curtis.

1991
01:46:45,870 --> 01:46:48,430
Sorry, buddy.
Oh, you might be right.

1992
01:46:48,830 --> 01:46:51,350
Once.
Once the bet, once the bet goes

1993
01:46:51,350 --> 01:46:54,310
in, you know you can't get that
ticket back, right?

1994
01:46:54,670 --> 01:46:56,070
Should've looked a little bit
closer.

1995
01:46:56,590 --> 01:46:58,990
It's like being in Vegas, being
drunk, making a stupid bet,

1996
01:46:58,990 --> 01:47:00,270
right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1997
01:47:01,070 --> 01:47:02,390
But my hope is.
That it's a.

1998
01:47:02,390 --> 01:47:04,630
Low score.
I mean we were, we were all two

1999
01:47:04,630 --> 01:47:06,750
and five last week.
I mean, this is just as much of

2000
01:47:06,750 --> 01:47:08,710
A dice rolls.
In right, Exactly.

2001
01:47:09,310 --> 01:47:11,390
And you know what?
Maybe I always Defense shows up

2002
01:47:11,390 --> 01:47:17,420
to play, keeps it to an ugly
2115 game.

2003
01:47:19,140 --> 01:47:20,820
Who's got this next tally?
Tally.

2004
01:47:20,820 --> 01:47:23,300
Tally.
I got to go with Penn State,

2005
01:47:23,300 --> 01:47:24,540
man.
Just I just looked at it in

2006
01:47:24,540 --> 01:47:26,860
there at home.
I got, I got to go Penn State

2007
01:47:26,860 --> 01:47:31,820
with the win and Shelton to wrap
us up here.

2008
01:47:32,500 --> 01:47:37,060
Yes, give me the mini lions.
One thing I've learned in in the

2009
01:47:37,060 --> 01:47:39,580
betting world is that I don't
trust teams that have really bad

2010
01:47:39,580 --> 01:47:42,340
offenses against teams is really
exposed to playmakers like Penn

2011
01:47:42,340 --> 01:47:44,280
State has.
Even though I was office is

2012
01:47:44,280 --> 01:47:47,240
really good.
I just do not trust them going

2013
01:47:47,240 --> 01:47:50,160
in there and getting and
covering the spread.

2014
01:47:50,160 --> 01:47:51,960
So give me a Penn State and
their playmakers.

2015
01:47:51,960 --> 01:47:54,320
By the way, The Quarterback
Hour, he's he's been really,

2016
01:47:54,320 --> 01:47:56,320
really good this year.
So that even adds to my

2017
01:47:56,320 --> 01:47:58,240
confidence.
Very nice.

2018
01:47:58,280 --> 01:48:00,600
All right, so there are our big
screeners and I hokey

2019
01:48:00,600 --> 01:48:03,880
predictions for the week.
Anything boys wrapped up in an

2020
01:48:03,960 --> 01:48:06,880
hour and 50 minutes?
I'm sorry, we had to go on a

2021
01:48:06,880 --> 01:48:09,080
tangent the first half.
Y'all we had, we had a couple

2022
01:48:09,080 --> 01:48:10,480
rants, so we had to get off our
chests.

2023
01:48:10,480 --> 01:48:13,680
Man, you know that sometimes
that pumps things up of extra

2024
01:48:13,680 --> 01:48:15,520
1520 minutes.
Yes, Sir.

2025
01:48:15,520 --> 01:48:17,640
All right.
Anything changed?

2026
01:48:17,640 --> 01:48:19,560
I'm looking at my fantasy score
real quick.

2027
01:48:19,960 --> 01:48:21,400
Hey, I.
Pulled out the victory, man.

2028
01:48:21,640 --> 01:48:25,640
Oh, you got another kick?
As well I got an 18 point lead

2029
01:48:25,640 --> 01:48:28,080
with approximately 6 minutes
left.

2030
01:48:28,080 --> 01:48:31,160
So going for 01/2 and fantasy or
two and 01 fantasy.

2031
01:48:31,160 --> 01:48:35,000
So that wraps up this episode of
the Boundary Corner podcast,

2032
01:48:35,000 --> 01:48:38,520
brought to you by Main Street
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01:48:38,520 --> 01:48:41,200
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I'm Brian Siegler.

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weekend.
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2052
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He said.
The bottle of raw, man.

2053
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I think he finished that bottle
of Rye last weekend to be honest

2054
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with you.
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you guys for listening.
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