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Know the Enemy - Georgia Tech

This week we're back to preview the upcoming trip to Atlanta to face the thirteenth ranked Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets. We also Tell the Truth about a disasterfest of a Homecoming for the Hokies as they fell 30-23 to Wake. We wrap as always by giving you our Big Screener picks for the weekend.

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And welcome back to TV Boundary
Corner Podcast, a part of the

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College Huddle Network, along
with my partners Brian Siegel

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and Jonathan Talley.
And maybe later, a shelter.

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Moss, I don't know.
We thought he was coming, and

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then he's not here yet.
But Shelton's a busy guy.

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I am Curtis Wilson and as
always, we are brought to you by

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Doctor Jeremy Counts down at the
Counts Family Pharmacy, your

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friendly neighborhood pharmacy
three O 1 S Main St. in

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Blacksburg.
We are also brought to you by

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moments on the Moray.
Do you need a weekend getaway to

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sit by the river and have drinks
by the campfire after a hokie's

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lost?
Well, also the more we're down

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in Lansing in Virginia may be
your spot all God by Hokie, who

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is also constantly texting me
and he's pissed about all the

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situations that are currently
going on.

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It is a little over an hour from
Blacksburg.

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If you want to do that drive as
far as in state.

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You can be there any matter of
two hours just from about

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anywhere.
If you're listening to us inside

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the state of Virginia, like I
said, you can still fish and you

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still kayak, canoe, but sitting
by the river with a nice fire

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pit and a nice drinking hand to
throw things, that is also

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wonderful.
Check out the link in the

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comments section or on Instagram
at Moments on the Maori.

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I can't wait for Phil to hear
that one and give me feedback.

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Need to drown your sorrows after
a Hokies loss?

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Head down to moments on the.
Moon, fire, pitch, beer and

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rhythm.
Wonderful ways to soothe the

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soul after a crushing the feet.
Oh man, I got to throw this one

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up real quick.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Probably.
And the Hokies do have another

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15 yard penalty, yes.
Yes, we do.

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It's.
Literally as any Anytime we say

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a line, the Hokies just got
another personal foul or.

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It led to a touch.
Some sort of dumbass.

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Penalty.
It led to a touchdown.

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We will hit that later.
But Tally, you shaking your

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head, you ain't saying anything.
What you doing man?

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Man, it ain't nothing to say,
man.

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You know, we fought a coach.
We know what we in for.

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It was bad Saturday, you know,
I'll just start by saying the

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guys that are playing are
playing hard and I know we'll

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touch on some stuff later on
100.

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Percent.
But tonight, before we get into

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that, as always, we are going to
get to know the enemy with a

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funny son of a bitch already.
I'm going to say we were talking

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before he jumped on.
He made me laugh numerous times,

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tried to make me feel better one
time.

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I don't know if that's going to
work right now, that's going to

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work right now.
But anyway, hey, wreck talk.

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Put him on the line, put him in
the video chat.

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He is our Georgia Tech guy.
How's it going?

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Love the headband by the way.
You had to put the headband on.

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I was sweating with anticipation
to get on here.

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So I played pickleball with the
Clemson fan Pigskin Pete, and I

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thought, hey, put the headband
on, man.

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Like, look, I know about misery.
No one knows misery like rec

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talk.
And when you have a channel,

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people don't realize how low the
lows are, right?

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Because you'll be doing a live
stream.

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Everyone is hate watching you.
So you go from like 100 people

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to 300 that are just there to
trash you.

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And that is the life of YouTube,
I guess.

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But yeah, how you guys doing?
Yeah.

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Man, right now I'm trying to
figure out exactly to what

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degree that I get to be a hater
for the rest of the season.

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Because when when you got a team
like Virginia, Texas, like at

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some point you're just trying to
like pick people in the college

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sports world.
Who am I going to hate on?

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So I can feel a little bit
better about my situation.

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And you brought up a good one
just before we jumped on here.

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Oh.
God, yeah.

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What you.
All saying you were like listen

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y'all ain't.
You're not blue to Bill with

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North Carolina.
I mean that he doesn't have a

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Blue 2.
Sponsorship is a crime against

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humanity in and of itself.
Two different people have tried

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to make documentaries on this
complete shit show that is Tar

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Heel Nation and both have been
canceled.

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One because of his 23 year old
girlfriend.

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I mean this.
Who could have seen that this

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wasn't going to work out?
The man that hadn't coached

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college football.
And this is true.

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I'm not even making this up.
I'm a certified ball knower.

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I couldn't have wrote that by
myself.

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That's all the way over there.
I'm all the way over here.

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He hasn't coached college
football since before we landed

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on the moon.
These guys are addicted to

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hiring geriatric patients that
parade around as head coaches.

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So I don't know.
I mean, at least you're do you

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are doing better than that you.
Know what?

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It could always be worse.
We can all we can always we can

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always be a little bit further
in the cellar.

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It's, it's it's just one of
those things that's frustrating

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the the time in college football
that this is happening to

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Virginia Tech seems to be not
not the best time, but hopefully

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we can get things get the ship
righted with with some new, new

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staff coming in here and things
like that.

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But.
We got, we got to put this up.

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For right now.
Man, that, that guy right there,

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man.
My, it's like my dad told me

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because I, you know, I was an
idiot, girl.

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I still am an idiot.
My dad, you said, boy, there's

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something bad wrong with you,
you know, and he just kind of

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stopped having anything to do
with me for a minute.

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There's something bad wrong with
Jeff Collins.

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In fact, I saw on your message
boards before he went to North

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Carolina, you, some of your fans
were tossed around hiring them

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as DC.
You called me before you hired

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Jeff Collins.
We'll do that.

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Well, let's get into it because
we got to talk about your team.

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And as these two teams get ready
to meet down in downtown Atlanta

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Saturday afternoon, 3:00 will
you be in attendance?

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Yeah, I'll be there.
I'll be in Atlanta.

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I'll be.
In fact, we gifted some tickets,

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so I'm going to go around.
There's a guy that's an idiot

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that sat behind me the other
during the Clemson game and

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yelled for the backup
quarterback to come in.

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So I'm going to go tell him,
give him the old what's there,

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Fred?
But I'll be there.

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Nice.
Tally, did you decide?

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I know you've been playing with
driving over from Huntsville.

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Are you going to go?
Yeah, still on the fence.

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I don't know just yet.
We'll know for sure tomorrow.

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I don't.
Know we're talking about it.

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It's only a 2 hour drive, so he
just wakes up that morning.

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He wants to go, He'll drive and
find a ticket.

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I'll let it go.
There you go.

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You need a.
Ticket go to the strip club.

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Go to the strip.
Club over there.

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I've got 4 tickets now if you
want one.

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Well, me and my wife was going
to go, so I may need, I do.

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I may need to, yeah.
I will talk with you a little

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bit after the show for sure.
Yeah, they, they're closing down

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all the, all the gentlemen's
establishments we like, but I, I

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will find some for you.
Look up Claremont Lounge.

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That's where we'll end up going
with.

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The two meetings of the Live
from the Boundary Corner podcast

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and Rec Talk go downtown
Atlanta.

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There has to be photos of this
tally, so please, please I'm.

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Going to tell you right now
there ain't going to be no

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pickleball playing.
I got I got one good thrust in

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me and then I'm done.
I.

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Fall out under no pressure you
admitting this live on the

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Internet for everybody the.
Pickleball is done.

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Yeah, man.
Well, it's like Vegas, you know,

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I won't tell nobody.
I mean, if you don't so.

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Let's pull this back in.
I don't know how I'm I'm

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cracking up over here.
Yeah, so Virginia football.

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Well, let's talk about y'all
man, because I'm, I'm, I'm going

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to start on offense because good
Lord almighty Haynes King.

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You know what tally you said?
Say what you said a few weeks

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ago about Haynes King and why
you loved him so much, about how

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he's.
Playing tough.

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He's a tough motherfucker, man.
Like he just wants to win.

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If I was our coach or whoever is
running the team out every week,

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I would put videos of Hayes King
on the screen and say Kyron,

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either you do that or you got to
come sit down, buddy.

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He is running the ball.
If he has any opening, he is

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running the ball and they don't
want to hit him.

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I don't even know how big the
kid is, but I do know that

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defense don't want to hit him
after about two quarters.

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So may not be the conventional
way to use a quarterback.

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But he is a Georgia Tech legend
by how he plays football.

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Got to love him man.
Yeah, man.

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So, so rectal, what are you
feeling this year?

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Any different?
I mean, part of all he, he is

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playing unbelievable.
He is like what Tally just said.

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He is playing.
Like in five years, when he

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walks back in the stadium, it's
going to be like, there's the

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God.
Holy fucking shit.

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It's Haynes King.
Yeah.

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Yeah, I mean, he's a guy that
walks in a room.

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His wiener's been there for 10
minutes already.

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You know, he's one of them type
guys.

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And here's the thing, Haynes
King is a phenomenal player and

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I might catch shit from my own
fan base.

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He's not really a quarterback
like he does throw and he has

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had serious injury issues.
He's just, he's a certified ball

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player.
He's just a ball player.

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He's a tough son of a gun.
You don't really know what

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you're getting with them.
Sometimes, though, like, you

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know, we did lose against
Georgia last year.

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But I mean, he had like 400
yards of offense against Georgia

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by himself, won the game against
Colorado, spotting them three

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turnovers by himself.
But like then we just refused to

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play for 1/2 against Wake Forest
for some reason.

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So I don't know, like my thing
with Haynes is like he's never

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going to be 100% healthy.
Like he's going to be something

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but maybe is 80% now is Max.
It's like in NCAA 26 y'all play

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that he you don't know how red
he is.

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Sometimes it's just like the sun
just burning there.

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But now he's a good one.
And you know, we have a really

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good backup, too, if we do have
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And Aaron Philo broke Trevor
Lawrence's record in Georgia and

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high school.
You got some good supporting

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cast members and Jamal Haynes
and Malachi Hosley at running

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back.
One guy you probably don't know

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about is a guy named Isaiah
Canyon.

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That's a place wide receiver.
He's he's a OK now.

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Go ahead and roll on him because
it was one of the guys we wanted

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to talk about was Isaiah Canyon.
And I mean kid, I mean y'all got

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him straight out of high school.
What second year?

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True sophomore.
Already.

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This year, man.
He probably would have played

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before now.
He tore his labrum his senior

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year in high school.
But he's just big.

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Like, as bad as Clemson is right
now, like their defense has that

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probably at least five guys are
going to get drafted off their

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defense.
And he was dragged.

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All of them.
He was dragging them.

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He's 64, probably 2-10,
something like that.

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We haven't used them quite as
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Eric Rivers, he was all
American.

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That came out of FIU that we
kind of swapped with.

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We lost Eric Singleton, junior
to Auburn.

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So offensively, like if we hit
on all cylinders, like we got

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guys that can play.
I think we're first in the

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conference and sacks allowed.
We've given up the least amount

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of sacks.
Y'all.

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Are like top 15 in the country
and sacks allowed.

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Y'all are unbelievable.
Yeah, and part of that is an

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artifact of the offense that we
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You know, I'm not saying we have
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country.
Miami might might have that.

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But yeah, the the problems for
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defensively.
There are definitely things you

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could exploit on us defensively.
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Let me Well, you probably ain't
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much this week.
I'll go ahead and tell you.

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Let me throw one other name out
there on office because you

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mentioned him, but I want to ask
how important it is this year is

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Malachi Hosley because Haynes
was here last year and Hanes had

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a great season.
How much, how important is it

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for what y'all do to have that
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field that can do whatever he
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Because if you ask me, watching
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Hanes is going to do.
We know what Hanes is going to

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do.
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and it's like, you know what?
We still can do.

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We can still run it right at you
with our third guy, and he's

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just as damn good as these first
two.

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Yeah, that's not just a Georgia
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I mean, every team in the
country's got to have three

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running backs that can go and
you're going to, you're going to

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have three.
Well, you need to, if you're

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going to have sustained success,
you need 3 running backs and go.

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One of them's going to get
banged up at a minimum for any

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team throughout the season.
But yeah, Jamal hangs.

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He actually pulled something, I
don't know how serious it is in

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warm ups before.
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So we'll see.
He didn't have a good game last

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week, but Malachi Hosley, the
guy that came out of Penn, I

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think he's from Roswell, GA or
something like that, Roswell

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Alpharetta.
He he's a guy that as soon as

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they put like pads on it,
practice like he just started

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running by people.
He's not big, but he's really

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important.
And then you get into we get

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like Chad Alexander back,
Trollane Maddox, some other guys

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that you know, can distribute
that load because you can't just

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bang Jamal Haynes for, you know,
all game.

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You know, you got to, you got to
take some weight off his

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shoulders.
Yeah, I mean.

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Yeah, and you, like you said,
you got a, you got 2 running

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backs there that can, can make a
little bit of noise for you.

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Let's pull back a little bit and
talk about the offensive

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coordinator, Buster Faulkner.
When it when it, when it comes

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to scheme and game plan.
Like what does he bring to the

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table?
I know you know, he's a

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coordinator.
He also coaches tight ends for

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y'all right?
So what?

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What's his?
What's his biggest yeah benefit

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that he brings to the team from
a scheme standpoint?

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So he so it is interesting
usually your OC is your

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quarterbacks coach at almost
every school.

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We have Chris Winky, though, on
staff that's really good with

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quarterbacks.
Buster.

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One thing that he does like and
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all, almost every play has
motion in it lot of motion to

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get as much information from the
defense as you can like the guys

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running with the slot to the
other side of the field.

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All right, they're probably in
man right.

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He also does a lot of very, I
don't know if innovative is the

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right word.
He does a lot of interesting

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things in the run game, like
he'll pull a tight end and

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tackle on a play on like a
quarterback power or something.

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So Buster is very good at
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his teammate.
The way he uses Haynes King is

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ideal for the most part.
Like, yeah, you're going to you

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might stuff some of this power
option stuff situationally, but

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he's going to find a way to to
get Haynes King is his rushing

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yards.
And then you know, some

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interesting past concepts on the
back end of it, right, Like

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throwing it, throwing it deep to
damn.

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I can't remember his name now.
We just talked about a big 6

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foot 4 kid, Isaiah Canyon,
right, stretching, stretching

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the field and then and then
running it back on the

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quarterback power.
So I think he calls, you know, a

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really good game for the most
part.

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Didn't didn't really show
against weight last week.

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But I mean, look, Buster's one
of the most popular names and

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and coaching hires right now and
he was last season as well.

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Nice.
Any anything else on offense?

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Anybody else on offense we have
not mentioned that jumps out to

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you?
You've mentioned a bunch of

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names.
I mean, I wanted to talk about

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Haines King, obviously Jamal
Haines and Hosley and he threw

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up Canyon.
And I was like, well, as there's

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a guy I wanted to hear about and
now I'm hearing, well, he's 64,

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he's 215.
He ragdolls defensive backs,

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yes.
Yeah, I mean, I guess the the

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only other thing I'll say, and I
don't even know what to to make

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of this is in more than one
press conference, Brent Key

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said.
Yet, you know, the more hurt

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Haynes King is, the better he
plays, which has been true.

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It was true way, you know, it
was true.

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Like as soon as he starts
pulling this dumb and ass

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routine, he'd ends up running
for 45 yard touchdown or

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something.
So take make that what you will.

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It seems like he just got that
gamer button.

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Like as soon as he is in those
crunch time situations he makes

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the most of it and just gets
gets the job done.

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It's what Tally has said
numerous times.

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There are certain guys, they're
never going to make it pro.

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Now you're in the area of
college football, right?

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You can make a shit ton of money
and you can submit your

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legendary status.
Yeah, it doesn't matter.

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Look at Tim Tebow.
He he was never going to be an

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NFL starting quarterback for any
length of time.

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He's one of the greatest college
football players ever, though.

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Yep.
Yep, not a lot.

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Let's flip over to defense for a
little while here and I want to

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make something completely didn't
know until I started doing my

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research this week.
You guys flipped DC's Tyler

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Santucci, Georgia Tech after one
year after coming over from Duke

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and Elko's tree comes to y'all
has a solid season.

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Well, first of all, maybe he
wasn't a solid because he went

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up to Baltimore and their
defense is absolutely shit right

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now and he's in linebackers
coach up there.

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So maybe it's him, maybe it's
not.

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But y'all go hire Blake Giddy
and his safeties coach up at

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Texas basically for their deep
run last year.

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And he'd been there with
Sarkeesian for the last three

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years.
What difference you're seeing on

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the defensive side of the ball
this year, just with Gideon, or

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is it more, you know what, he
steadied the ship and we're

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still rolling?
So Brent Keys had more defensive

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coordinators than years than
he's been head coach at wards

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attack.
So we we brought over or we kept

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Andrew Thacker, who was a
Collins hire for whatever

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reason.
Now I get why our defense was

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the cornerstone of Keys interim
year.

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He basically assaulted him on
the sideline of the Bowling

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Green loss and then we fire him,
promote Kevin Sharer to DC, fire

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both of them.
So he had two DC's in the same

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year.
Then you talked about it.

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We bring in Santucci, who I
didn't even learn his name until

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he was already gone.
I thought his name was Santucci

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and he was really good, though
he came from Duke.

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He was a linebacker's coach.
Our linebacker play had been

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atrocious up to that point.
Blake Gideon came in, which was

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really exciting for us as Tech
fans because we're we're really

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good or most of our defensive
talents in the defensive

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backroom.
Blake Gideon played defensive

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back when he was at Texas.
They had one of the best pass

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defenses in the country as far
as what I've seen from him and

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and he's never called plays
before too.

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So there there is some learning
curve in this for him.

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Really.
The Georgia Tech defense has

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been been but don't break and
they've been really good at

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times like turning the ball over
three straight possessions to

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start a game.
I don't know that I've ever seen

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that I was melting down,
especially because I bet

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Colorado fans I would drink a 40
year old Coke if they won that

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game and I was like, Oh my God,
I might have to drink a 40 year

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old Coke.
But they gave up three points

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off those 3 turnovers.
I mean a point, a turnover is

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pretty good.
They have been lit up.

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The The thing is we don't have a
pass rush right now.

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We have to be near last.
I think we're 16th in the

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conference and sacks.
So, you know, we've got to be a

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little more creative with how we
drop stunts and blitz, blitz

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packages.
But as far as what I've seen

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from Blake Guinea, if you look
at the rankings, right, 65th in

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total defense, it's been bend
but don't break.

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OK, All right.
And I mean, that's kind of the

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same style that we try to play,
but we've been breaking a whole

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lot so.
Oh yeah?

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Well, that would just be break.
It wouldn't be.

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It would be No, it's, it's bend
and then break and then crumble.

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Yeah, it's, it's the whole 9
yards there.

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Let's flip over to.
The you're right, you're you're

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you're 15, not 16.
Both 2.

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The two of the North Carolina
schools are worse than y'all

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would getting sacks when we
played already.

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Yeah, we got.
Blue to build.

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Blue to build.
All right, so yeah, let's let's

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flip it over though.
So we got, we got these, we we

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learned here about the the new
DCA little bit.

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Let's talk about that defensive
line.

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I'll let you jump in with a
couple guys that you like.

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I know we had kind of circled
Jordan Vandenberg as kind of

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being the guy on the interior
there, but is there anybody else

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you want to talk about and let
let the fans know about on the

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Georgia Tech defensive line?
Yeah, Vandenberg's good.

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He came from Penn, like squats,
like 600 something pounds or

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something.
You know, he's really the leader

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on the defensive front.
We lost a ton last year on the

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defensive front.
In fact, he's the only one

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that's really played any
meaningful snaps.

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It's returning this year as
opposed to last year.

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The old money from Texas Tech
took Rommelo height.

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They seem to be doing fantastic
right now.

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Another one.
This is interesting, a kilo

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stone.
He's also a defensive tackle

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left Georgia Tech to go to Ole
mess and now he's transferred

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back to Georgia Tech No, it was
in consecutive season so one

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season he left to get Ole mess
played down there next season he

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came back to play for Georgia
Tech.

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He's been really good for us
he's I want to say he's been

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banged up.
I know he's had to come out of

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games sporadically.
King season says Gideon has done

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solid through five games for a
guy who is a first time play

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collar.
But bad for how much we paid

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him.
Well I don't know man.

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What are we paying him like
800,000 a year?

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I mean the the highest paid
coordinators are defensive

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coordinators.
I think there's ADC that makes

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over 3 million or something.
That's it's it's Knowles of Penn

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State.
We know because he was going to

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get paid for 1.8 million by us
if he hadn't fucking went on

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that run with Ohio State.
There you go.

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Yeah.
Yeah, see.

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Yeah, I mean where we're weak on
that defensive front is at the

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end and that's where if you want
to be really strong on defense

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and you could pick one position
to be really good at, it would

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be a defensive end.
I mean the the less you have to

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cover, the better, right.
You don't have to be that great

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and in your defensive backfield
if you can get to the

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quarterback and that's great of
problems for us.

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Like Wake was able to just run
simple go routes, split, you

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know, Wake was running cover 2
and split the safety and corner

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at the boundary multiple,
multiple times.

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We just weren't able to get
there.

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So some work to be desired for
sure on the defensive front,

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which again is making over a
million a year, OK.

447
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Still don't matter like.
That's the one we had to make.

448
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:17,640
But now I'm just going to say
the main person that everybody

449
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,520
sees or in my opinion, it kind
of jumps off the page on your

450
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:24,960
defense is your linebacker.
I mean, it looks like he's out

451
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,640
of a horror film.
Face paint everywhere, got the

452
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:32,720
big cowboy collar.
I mean, how has he been playing

453
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,640
this year and and what do you
think about him?

454
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,680
He's been playing well.
I mean, he is a menace as far as

455
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,680
run stops concerned like and and
just like open field tackle and

456
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,400
getting a guy on the ground
really good Blitzen.

457
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,520
But he can be exposed in
coverage.

458
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,520
You know, anytime I see him
matched up on the slot with

459
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,280
somebody, 'cause, look, usually
your slot receivers, your

460
00:25:55,280 --> 00:26:00,200
fastest receiver, like a smaller
fast receiver, He he gets

461
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:01,680
exposed a lot.
That happened last year.

462
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:02,960
It's happened a few times this
year.

463
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,120
But Efford, I mean, look, any
any dude that wears a cowboy

464
00:26:06,120 --> 00:26:08,640
collar and I didn't even know
they made those anymore.

465
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,280
I I mean, I didn't see anyone
wear that until he did.

466
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,120
Yeah.
So I mean, you got something

467
00:26:15,120 --> 00:26:17,760
going on.
Hey, real quick, there's another

468
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,160
linebacker.
I I've kind of noticed a couple

469
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,880
times he transferred over from
Oregon State and he's, he's

470
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,280
great and pretty high in PFF and
all categories tackling

471
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,200
coverage.
And that's Melvin Jordan the

472
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,400
4th.
Where is he lining up?

473
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,560
Like is he primarily weak side
or is he playing like some of

474
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:38,680
the outside linebacker?
I'll be honest with you, I'm not

475
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,440
sure I would assume he he's
outside.

476
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,120
He seems like a more athletic
guy like him.

477
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,040
We have three more athletic
linebackers in like EJ Lightsley

478
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:51,080
that came in from UGA last year,
Melvin Jordan came in this year

479
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,480
and then a guy named Jackson
Hamilton that came in from

480
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,520
Louisville.
And we've, we, we, we do a

481
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,720
pretty good job at rotating
situationally those guys in like

482
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,840
if we, you know, they bring out
four wide receivers, we're

483
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,920
probably going to bring E Ford
off and put Jordan in or EJ

484
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,520
Lightsley in.
OK.

485
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,400
So he's he's more of a coverage
oriented linebacker.

486
00:27:12,360 --> 00:27:14,360
Maybe, I don't know.
I'll be honest with you, I

487
00:27:14,360 --> 00:27:16,400
haven't paid that much attention
to it.

488
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:20,040
I've been oogling over Haines
King and and stuff like that.

489
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:25,080
As you should, as you should.
We went to last one, Brian.

490
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,240
Yeah.
I mean your secondary, I know

491
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,680
you talked about there was some,
you know some problems there as

492
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,240
you as Wake was coming in,
especially the inability to get

493
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,680
get pressure on there and you
know some coverage breakdowns.

494
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:41,360
But you know, we kind of circled
Amari Harvey cornerback, but

495
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,760
want you to talk about him a
little bit, maybe some of the

496
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,080
other guys in that secondary
that have been some some

497
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,040
playmakers for you.
Yeah, Mari Harvey's good.

498
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,880
I didn't really know how good he
was until I I played NCAA 26 and

499
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,960
that he scored like 14 points a
game as a defensive back.

500
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:02,000
But now he's been good this
season, really good in coverage

501
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,640
together as a ton of experience,
which is which is needed.

502
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,400
Another guy that I'm really high
on is a guy named Clayton

503
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,720
Powley.
We in the past we've been so bad

504
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:15,360
at linebacker, like more toward
his sophomore year that he had

505
00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:19,440
to play linebacker.
So he's a big, you know, £200

506
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,360
plus safety.
We actually interviewed him on

507
00:28:21,360 --> 00:28:24,200
the channel his freshman year.
He came out of Westlake, which

508
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,360
is where Cam Newton came out of
in Georgia.

509
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,080
So that they're a football
factor.

510
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,080
We've got a few kids out of
there, but Clayton Powley really

511
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:36,320
good at at being a run stopper
out of safety.

512
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,240
Just just reading the reading
the offense and knowing where to

513
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,240
be on the field.
I mean, hell, probably more than

514
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:46,040
half of playing defense is just
knowing what spot you need to

515
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:46,440
get in.
Yeah.

516
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:51,800
Oh, A. 100% being at the right.
Spot doing the show lady, sorry.

517
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,360
So so going into this game
Saturday, obviously y'all are I

518
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:00,000
mean.
What?

519
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,800
This might be the first.
Time ever in this series with

520
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:09,880
Y'all and us going back to 2004
that anybody's ever been this

521
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,560
big of a favor in this game.
I think it's it was 14 1/2 is

522
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,880
where it started.
I am not sure where it is right

523
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:15,400
now.
It's a lot.

524
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,080
Of points.
That is a shit ton of points,

525
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,720
but where is your?
I mean, is there, is there a

526
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,680
concern as you're looking
through your team through the

527
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,480
lens of, OK, we're undefeated,
top 18 in the country, we're

528
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:32,680
leading the ACC.
Is there any fear right now?

529
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:34,680
Like we're going to fuck this
up?

530
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,880
Where are you standing going
into this game?

531
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,320
Yeah, I mean, look, do I think
there's only 12 teams in the

532
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:43,720
country better than Georgia
Tech?

533
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,160
No.
No, I don't.

534
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,000
Georgia Tech has the benefit of
a very easy schedule this year.

535
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,600
I mean, you look at their wins,
where is the big quality win

536
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,280
you'd say for Georgia Tech?
They don't have one.

537
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,640
You thought Clemson, maybe.
But Clemson, you know, you can't

538
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,640
get out of their own way.
Can't you know they can only

539
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,880
beat Troy in North Carolina,
which is not a great resume.

540
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,440
And yeah, I'm I'm certainly
scared.

541
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,160
Like never bet.
Georgia Tech is a favorite.

542
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,280
First of all, I hate sports
betting.

543
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:19,120
And I in fact, years ago I told
my dad like, I think I'm going

544
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,440
to take Ole mess on the money
line over Alabama.

545
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,280
This what he told me this for
all you guys listening, he said

546
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,600
well, I guess if you're tired of
giving your ex-wife all your

547
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,160
money, you can give the rest of
the bookie.

548
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,560
All right, so don't don't bet on
sports.

549
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,320
These guys know what they're
doing and if you have to bet

550
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,840
don't bet tech as a favorite.
Go watch last week against

551
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:44,120
weight Tech's a team that plays
to the level of talent that is

552
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,640
across from them.
Like they'll they'll go beat

553
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:51,600
Miami last year, you know, and
then lose to Virginia Tech.

554
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,200
You know, not to crap on
Virginia Tech, but you'd think

555
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,160
if you can take care of Miami,
you should have been able to

556
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,680
take care of Virginia Tech.
And we had injury issues and all

557
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:00,480
that.
I get it.

558
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,320
I they kept showing a stat
during the weight game.

559
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,760
He's like 9 and one nine and one
against ranked ACC opponents

560
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:12,320
after that win and 9 is 8
against unranked ACC opponents.

561
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:17,440
So we it's almost like he holds
stuff back for teams that, you

562
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:21,200
know, that are these big marquee
matchups that I hope that's not

563
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,920
like a a thing that continues
with them.

564
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,040
But this is the exact type of
game that Georgia Tech stumbles

565
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:28,560
in.
And it's been a little while

566
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,880
since we beat y'all.
When was the last time we beat

567
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:35,320
Virginia Tech 21?
You beat us in 2021.

568
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:43,120
That was first, first season we
I think that was A1 score.

569
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:47,120
Hold on, I'm 90 since years A1
score loss.

570
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,200
Yeah, when when you.
Said the stuff with the with all

571
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:54,080
when he said the stuff with like
holding back for the good teams.

572
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:58,400
I I was getting Fuente vibes for
yeah, the hokey fans.

573
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,200
I was like, OK, well, because
Fuente always, you know, put out

574
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,600
a good team, even you win or
lose.

575
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,840
It was a good game against the
quality opponents and, you know,

576
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,080
you turn around and lose a bunch
of games you had no business

577
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:11,680
losing.
And yeah.

578
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,800
Yeah, I mean, it's wild.
It might have been 2022.

579
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,600
It was his interim year, I think
because we didn't play the year

580
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,440
before last and you beat us last
year.

581
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,920
That was that was when we had
Pyron who ended up transferring

582
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:28,520
out and broke the collarbone and
whatnot.

583
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,600
But yeah.
I think Pyron came in in the

584
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:31,680
game.
Y'all beat us too though.

585
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:37,480
Yeah, we started Gibson, who I
call cinder block feet and he he

586
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:41,720
transferred to Georgia State and
and lost that that competition.

587
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,680
So, yeah, but yeah, no, this
this game does scare me.

588
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,400
The only silver lining for me is
it's in Atlanta.

589
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:52,800
Like I, you know, no matter how
down Virginia Tech might be, I

590
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,160
mean, I think Blacksburg can be
a tough place to play.

591
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,040
Always laugh.
So what it what's your big key

592
00:32:58,040 --> 00:32:59,560
this week?
I know what you said to play the

593
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,120
level of competition.
What's the one thing if you say

594
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:06,360
if I look at this, if if I get
blackout and drunk pass out,

595
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:10,080
forget what happened Saturday
and if I wake up, there's one

596
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,800
stat line I'm looking and said
if we did that, then we won the

597
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,240
game.
Combined rushing yards of Jamal

598
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,280
Haines and Haines King.
If I knew that number, I would

599
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:23,840
tell you if it's above 160, I
would say 99 times out of 100,

600
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,280
Georgia Tech's going to win that
game.

601
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,800
And that's that's not just a
Virginia Tech thing.

602
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,480
If Georgia Tech can get their
rushing yards in, they tend to

603
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,880
beat whoever they're playing.
Got it, Tyler.

604
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,840
Anything else you want to ask
Mr. Rick?

605
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,960
Talk here tonight, Sir.
No, man.

606
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:41,560
I mean, he's giving us a lot of
information.

607
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,280
He's he's the blow.
He's been very nice to us today.

608
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,080
So I mean, I appreciate him
being on it.

609
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,120
And Red.
Stomped on our grave or

610
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,200
anything.
Told us we were better than UNC.

611
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:52,640
I mean, what else can you ask
for?

612
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,880
Well y'all don't do.
Having three touchdowns, almost

613
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,600
running.
Y'all don't do dumb stuff like

614
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,040
other fan bases do, like lose
everything that's good about

615
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,960
your team and say you're going
to be better this year.

616
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,600
Like, I don't know, Colorado.
Or hire a bunch of people that

617
00:34:08,679 --> 00:34:12,920
have never coached before and
say because they were good NFL

618
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:14,400
players, that's going to mean
something.

619
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:15,639
Yeah, I mean, I hadn't done any
of that.

620
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,040
Right.
Hey man, we're checking all the

621
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:19,679
boxes.
Then I.

622
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,360
Was going to go ahead and get a.
Fucking coach.

623
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:27,600
Natty incoming.
Hey, oh God, don't we wish?

624
00:34:27,639 --> 00:34:30,520
Don't we wish?
Well, listen, Rick talk, dude.

625
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:35,239
We talked with you last year.
If you were fun then, you're fun

626
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,679
now, Tally.
Tally is going to hook up with

627
00:34:38,679 --> 00:34:39,719
you.
Because if Tally comes to

628
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,280
Georgia Tech and y'all go to the
Claremont Club and do all this

629
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,120
stuff, I want pictures because I
had a feeling it's going to be

630
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:46,280
one of those nights.
Y'all don't.

631
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,840
Remember, you should look up
Claremont.

632
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,159
You're not going to want to.
You're going to want pictures.

633
00:34:52,159 --> 00:34:53,360
You're.
Not going to want to look up

634
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,400
Claremont.
My own it's you don't even go

635
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,240
there for gratification.
You go there for entertainment.

636
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:05,360
OK, this is, I mean, what would
the dive bar equivalent of of

637
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:06,960
the titty club be?
I don't know.

638
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:11,840
That's what it is though, OK.
All right, all right.

639
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,840
The dive bar equivalent of the
titty.

640
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,880
Club, just just.
Write that down.

641
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,000
Just write well.
Listen man, we appreciate you

642
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,160
taking a little bit of your time
this evening.

643
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,640
Talk with us on Georgia Tech,
Give us a little background.

644
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,040
Tell everybody where they can
find you in.

645
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,760
When will you be going live to
talk about this game from

646
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,000
y'all's perspective?
Yes, you can find me.

647
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,280
Just search Rec Talk on YouTube.
I'll be there talking trash

648
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,200
about someone.
I just did a video on old

649
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,800
Bluetooth Bill and how I told
you that wasn't going to work

650
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,680
out and people didn't want to
listen to me.

651
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,880
And I've been more right about
North Carolina than their own

652
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,200
fans for the past three years.
You can find me on Twitter.

653
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:53,200
Yeah, man, you can find me on
Twitter at Rec under score Talk.

654
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:57,520
Because some porn bot hacked my
other account so I lost that

655
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,920
one.
As far as when I'll be going

656
00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:02,200
live, I don't know.
Probably at some point that

657
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,560
night.
I usually will stream the like

658
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,720
the late late game that night.
So like whatever the 1030 game

659
00:36:08,720 --> 00:36:10,480
is.
I did convert to Mormonism in

660
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,960
exchange for a win against Wake
Forest.

661
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:19,560
I I converted to Christianity
earlier in a previous season and

662
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,640
so my soul is pretty cheap.
It ended up working out.

663
00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:25,280
Explain how we beat weight down
20 to 3.

664
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,760
So usually BYU plays at 10:30
and I'll stream them.

665
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,520
They are not playing.
Are the referees Mormons?

666
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,760
Is that is that what's going on?
Well.

667
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,120
First of all, I wouldn't
question the power of Joseph

668
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,520
Smith on the stream like that.
I mean, you're welcome to, but

669
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:42,920
that's the only thing I can
accredit it to.

670
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,120
So you're converted to
Catholicism Next time you'll

671
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,040
play Notre Dame.
I would know, first of all,

672
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:52,920
first of all, Notre Dame, you
got Jesus overlooking your

673
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,560
stadium.
When was the last time they they

674
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,080
went to a natty last night and
win it.

675
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,800
They hadn't even won a
postseason game prior to that

676
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,960
since, I don't know, Lou Holtz
was there or something.

677
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:03,840
So it's a little suspicious to
me.

678
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:08,800
Oh God.
I love it I love it Rick talk

679
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,640
great talking with you man.
We hope that we continue to play

680
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,200
y'all so we can bring you on
every year for 40 minutes so

681
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,200
unfiltered entertainment.
Take care of yourself and

682
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:21,920
appreciate it man.
What?

683
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,440
By the way, UNC evidently just
made a statement about Bill

684
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,120
Belichick.
I got it up here.

685
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,440
This is from the UNC athletic
department.

686
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:35,360
I am fully committed to the UNC
football program, to UNC

687
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:39,880
football in the building here.
Bill Belichick, Coach Belichick

688
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,480
has the full support of the
Department of Athletics and

689
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,440
University.
Bubba Cunningham.

690
00:37:45,240 --> 00:37:48,320
Therefore, after they lose and
get squirrel stomped this

691
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,800
weekend, he's going to get
fired.

692
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,680
It's a guarantee now.
If you got to make a statement,

693
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,040
you got the full support.
You don't have the full support.

694
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,960
Yeah, if you have to come out
and make a statement like, hey,

695
00:37:59,960 --> 00:38:03,080
you know, his girlfriend is not
actually coaching the team and,

696
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,920
you know, he isn't actually
asking for concession money

697
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,760
before the games, it's not a
good look, man.

698
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:12,720
I mean, I don't.
Can you imagine watching Jeff

699
00:38:12,720 --> 00:38:18,320
Collins coach at Georgia Tech
and say I want that, I think and

700
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,120
hiring them.
I mean, these guys are addicted

701
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,440
to paying buyouts like some
crackhead over here in downtown

702
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,120
Atlanta.
I ain't never seen nothing like

703
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:26,800
it.
They ought to.

704
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:31,640
Just do sports betting the they
would lose less money just

705
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,880
flipping a coin on the spread
than than their buyouts.

706
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,480
They're paying coaches anyway.
Talk to you guys later.

707
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:38,920
Appreciate it man, have a good
one.

708
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,960
Appreciate it.
Oh my God, deep breath here.

709
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:50,560
You know what?
They may feel a little bit

710
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:54,040
better for the next few minutes
at least before we get over.

711
00:38:55,520 --> 00:39:00,040
Don't.
You can keep looking at you can

712
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,440
keep looking at UNC stuff and
understand that the man who made

713
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,000
that statement's name is Bubba
and laugh at that.

714
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:08,080
Bubba.
Bubba Cunningham.

715
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:13,480
Bubba Cunningham Oh my God.
Alrighty, well, I think we don't

716
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:18,200
have shovel tonight, so we're
going to roll on and let's just

717
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:22,320
talk about Saturday and let's
tell the truth because you know,

718
00:39:23,720 --> 00:39:26,680
versus Wake Forest, there's a 30
to 23 loss.

719
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:33,200
And what went well?
Well, right now we aren't UNC,

720
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,080
we aren't Oklahoma State.
I was going to say we aren't

721
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:40,080
UCLA, but God damn it, look what
they went out and did on

722
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,000
Saturday afternoon.
Yeah, man.

723
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:47,640
It's but y'all, y'all bronze owe
me 30 years, Tal, You've owe me

724
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,280
about five years now.
I'm a pretty optimistic

725
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,800
individual, right?
Pretty optimistic.

726
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,160
Positive.
Yeah.

727
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:59,400
I can't find shit on Saturday
that went well and it won't just

728
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,920
because we lost there.
Was a lot.

729
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,080
There was a lot like that.
Yeah, I mean, the best thing you

730
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,200
could say is like the running
game in the first half was

731
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:14,600
decent.
Not not spectacular, but not

732
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:18,560
awful.
We went away from it too much.

733
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:23,440
Kyron still threw more than he
needed to, for for as

734
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,040
inefficient as we were passing
the football, we still threw the

735
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:31,040
ball way too many times.
Good tally.

736
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:32,880
Agreed.
Agreed.

737
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:37,080
No, I think the only thing I can
say that went well was the kids

738
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:38,880
that are getting in the game are
playing hard.

739
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,080
And I don't see people that are
in the game quitting.

740
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:46,000
You know, we're just taking tons
of plays off.

741
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,480
I think they're playing hard.
I just think we're not a good

742
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:53,800
team.
I mean, that's, that's, that's

743
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,400
all I can say about.
I mean, we, we got some people

744
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,560
that are playing that probably
shouldn't be playing, but I feel

745
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:04,760
like that 90% of the kids that
are getting in the game are

746
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,680
playing hard.
So that's what I will say about

747
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,600
what went well.
Not much.

748
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,680
Well, the only thing is, and
this is what I get any more

749
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:16,880
pissed off about and I'm going
to go Randy here for a second.

750
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,400
What pisses me off is I couldn't
find a damn thing in my opinion

751
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,040
that went well and we lost about
7 points.

752
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,560
I I could not find anything like
I'm trying to say what did we do

753
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,760
good?
What, what, what, what, what do

754
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,280
we do good?
I don't see anything that went

755
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:31,840
well.
Watch most of the games.

756
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:37,840
Well, Curtis, we can go to flip
the flip the pivot to the next

757
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:42,280
thing and say what went bad and
it'll tell you why you lost by 7

758
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,280
after you couldn't find that
much.

759
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,840
Number one we'll start with is
fucking penalties.

760
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:53,760
That's what went bad.
Penalties went horrible.

761
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,680
Man penalty penalties are what
are what are they doing?

762
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,560
So the the problem that I'm
seeing with the penalties, like

763
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,520
penalties are penalties like
you're going to get penalties in

764
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:02,960
the game.
We're getting penalties

765
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,760
absolutely kills, drives it.
It either takes points off the

766
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,840
board or gives them points to go
on the board, gets us out of

767
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,000
field goal rate.
Like we get penalties at times.

768
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:19,920
We cannot afford to get
penalties all the time, all the

769
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,640
time.
How many drives it was?

770
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:28,360
I was trying to do the count 17
points right rough in the past.

771
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:33,200
Seven more.
I killed 17 roughing the passers

772
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,200
extended the drive.
They would have had to punt or

773
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:39,840
go forward on like 4th and seven
unsportsmanlike that would have

774
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:45,640
ended the drive. 7 special teams
over to center.

775
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:49,840
Although I I was going to bust
you whole, but then it was like

776
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:54,080
I looked at where that they only
threw that damn flag because

777
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:57,720
they missed a field goal and
they he had it slightly shoulder

778
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,240
over to center.
That's the only reason they

779
00:42:59,240 --> 00:43:01,240
threw it.
If he makes it, they don't throw

780
00:43:01,240 --> 00:43:06,680
the flag.
So but that's 17 points and when

781
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,840
you lose a game by 7, you just
want to throw shit like that

782
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,840
because it's like take all that
off the board, it's a 10 point

783
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,840
win.
Yeah, I think we had one more,

784
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:17,800
though somewhere.
I can't remember what it was.

785
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,720
I could not bring myself to go
back and watch any of that game

786
00:43:22,240 --> 00:43:25,000
because it was so bad, like how
I felt.

787
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:30,600
But I feel like it was one more
thing that we did, extended a

788
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:34,440
drive for them or something that
we hit somebody.

789
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,800
Is that it right there?
No.

790
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,920
That's the rough of the passer,
Brian.

791
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,560
What else?
What else went bad on Saturday?

792
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:45,520
Because I'm going to try to find
it.

793
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,400
Because I found the rough of the
passer.

794
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,440
I'll find the other ones in a
second here.

795
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:54,560
I mean, you know, the, the
second bugaboo on top of the

796
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,840
penalties is not finishing
drives, man.

797
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,800
We're, we're getting
historically bad in terms of

798
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:07,160
getting in the red zone and not
being able to, to get a

799
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:11,000
touchdown in the process.
We're kicking too many field

800
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:12,920
goals.
We're, we're, we're, we're

801
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,280
letting drives fizzle at the
wrong times, whether it be

802
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:20,520
because of those penalties or
because of bad execution or, you

803
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,480
know, inconsistent play call.
There's just, there's so many

804
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,080
reasons that we're just fizzling
out when we get in the red zone.

805
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,080
And you know, some of that's on
Kyron, some of that's on, you

806
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,720
know, other areas of the of the
offense.

807
00:44:31,720 --> 00:44:35,000
But at the end of the day, if
you're not scoring touchdowns

808
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,240
when you drive the field, you're
falling behind, man.

809
00:44:38,240 --> 00:44:41,240
You can't leave that many points
on the field consistently and

810
00:44:41,240 --> 00:44:45,800
expect to win football games.
Jordan Bass ran somebody over in

811
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,280
the second day or two.
I don't know if it led to

812
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,120
points, but.
I think, I think I know what

813
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,920
you're talking about like that
was API and I do think it, I

814
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:55,560
think it ended up in a field
goal.

815
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,360
So that would have been another
three points.

816
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,840
Can I say this defensively
though?

817
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:09,840
Y'all, if you want to go to NCAA
stats, guess who's dead last in

818
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,440
red zone defense.
And I'm talking about dead

819
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,280
fucking last.
I'm talking about tied with the

820
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:20,960
most opportunities and literally
cannot stop a score inside 20

821
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,480
yards.
That's us dead last.

822
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,840
Well, we can't score inside of
the 20 either, Curtis.

823
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:28,360
Yeah, another thing that went
bad.

824
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:33,760
We're we're bad in in the red
zone both ways and it hurts.

825
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,120
It hurts.
Because Saturday, you look at

826
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,680
John Loves field goal, what were
they like, 31?

827
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:46,640
Yeah. 313334 Yeah, You start
doing that math, it's like, wait

828
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:50,160
a second, that means you were
like snapping that ball.

829
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:51,960
It's about a six yard snap,
right?

830
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,280
Y'all both played 6 yards.
That means you were.

831
00:45:55,720 --> 00:46:00,000
Inside your 15 three times.
The last one you were inside the

832
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,560
tent.
That was the IBM.

833
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,400
Can't push the ball in.
And I, and you know what I got

834
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,240
to, I got to throw a disclaimer
out there because I said

835
00:46:11,240 --> 00:46:16,040
something about Murray and I
didn't mean to talk about him,

836
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,400
even though, you know, I got to
come back and give my man an

837
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,520
apology.
I haven't really watched him.

838
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,800
I finally he jumped off the the
page this past game.

839
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,520
But I think whoever what he's #9
right.

840
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,000
Yeah.
IBM is number 9.

841
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:38,120
So the other corner of safety
that's been playing is he #8 no,

842
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,800
not 8, that's Christian Ellis.
Whatever number was the one that

843
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:43,960
wasn't turning his head, I think
it was Brown.

844
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:46,840
Caleb Brown.
Yeah, Brown's not.

845
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,840
Playing right now.
Yeah, I know.

846
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,680
But I'm saying in in the first
couple of games, in the early.

847
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:54,600
Season.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

848
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,120
yeah, yeah.
That's who I was thinking Murray

849
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,000
was.
I got to, I got to tell my man

850
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:00,760
Murray that hey, man, I
apologize.

851
00:47:01,240 --> 00:47:03,800
Didn't mean to come at you
thinking about Breon Murray.

852
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,200
It was actually Brown that was
screwing up.

853
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,440
But anyway, yeah, we are still
had.

854
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,280
Murray gave us a good, you know,
IBM had gave us a good

855
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,200
opportunity to go score some
points, get a pick, trying to

856
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:19,720
get to the end zone.
When he didn't get to the end

857
00:47:19,720 --> 00:47:22,320
zone, Curtis text me and say we
ain't going to score, we're

858
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,240
about to kick.
I did text you that when he

859
00:47:24,240 --> 00:47:30,120
didn't get in. 33 plays later, 3
plays later, what happens?

860
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,080
We kicking a foot?
The field goal from the fucking

861
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,320
10.
Wait a second, didn't we get a

862
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,440
penalty too on that drive to
back this up a couple yards,

863
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:38,520
yes.
We did.

864
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,600
We got a couple on.
On 3rd and it was like third and

865
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,920
one or third and two or
something, we get a penalty,

866
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:46,600
takes us back to like the seven
or eight.

867
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,560
Curtis if the drive started with
first down, we got a penalty on

868
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,000
it.
That's bad.

869
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,120
That's bad.
That's bad.

870
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:58,000
Pitiful, Brian, what about this?
Because we we mentioned Congress

871
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,480
play, we talked about that a
little bit more, but and I don't

872
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,280
think Hasbro's won't get fixed
this year.

873
00:48:04,240 --> 00:48:07,880
No, I mean, you know, some of
the elements that we we were

874
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:13,840
expecting to have have are no
longer in the game, two of them

875
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:17,480
in particular.
And they're not going to be

876
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:21,040
coming back.
They are off the roster and it's

877
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:26,880
hard to absorb that type of loss
and expected to be consistent

878
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,480
because even the guys behind it,
if they Got Talent, they you

879
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:30,840
know, there's a reason they're
behind there.

880
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:32,640
They may not be ready for one
reason or another.

881
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:36,640
And we just can't we can't get
after the passer.

882
00:48:36,720 --> 00:48:41,440
And that was already a problem
because we were still working in

883
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,680
a somewhat inexperienced
secondary behind Dante Lovett,

884
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,880
who is also no longer playing on
this on this football team.

885
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:54,440
So you have a bad combination of
a lack of pass rush and a

886
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:59,160
secondary, particularly a
cornerback group that is pretty

887
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,240
inexperienced, and it's starting
to show.

888
00:49:01,240 --> 00:49:04,600
And you know when you add into
that Christian Ellis being out

889
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:08,880
this game, that that that put
them in even deeper bind.

890
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:14,520
So you're not a lot of good.
And now, and I'm going to say

891
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:18,640
this and make people mad, we're
O and three at home.

892
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:27,840
O and three and unless you beat
Cal in three weeks, 2 weeks, 2

893
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,960
weeks, there's not going to be a
home win this year.

894
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:33,920
Yeah.
There's not going to be a home

895
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:37,000
win this year.
That is just being brutally

896
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,800
honest.
Barring a miracle.

897
00:49:40,240 --> 00:49:43,040
Barring a miracle, you ain't
being Louisville.

898
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:49,560
You ain't, we ain't being Miami.
So be prepared for that Friday

899
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,920
night game.
Better be the Super Bowl for the

900
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:53,960
kids.
All right, I'm going to go with

901
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:58,240
my what did anything happen that
we weren't prepared for?

902
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,680
Me and Tali sat here and I
confidence and said we're not

903
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:06,240
winning this game.
But for me, my thought was Damon

904
00:50:06,240 --> 00:50:07,840
Claiborne is going to run over
us.

905
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,760
He's going to have 120 yards, 2
touchdowns.

906
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,040
All the kids from King William
going down there to watch him

907
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,040
are going to see it.
Well, he gets hurt.

908
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:20,040
They don't have a running game.
He goes for 29 yards.

909
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,160
We keep them to 90 yards on the
ground.

910
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,800
You tell me we kept that team to
90 yards on the ground.

911
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,360
It was like, well, we won the
game.

912
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,120
Like now, you lost and they
scored 30.

913
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:34,440
Where did those points come
from?

914
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:36,600
Points come from.
They couldn't.

915
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,800
Win the ball, but it goes back
if you can't, if you can't pass

916
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,640
rush and you got inexperienced
cover guys.

917
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,440
Even those ducks that were
getting thrown out of the

918
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,760
backfield there were getting
home.

919
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:52,880
You dropped at least three
interceptions that I saw.

920
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:57,680
Just not good, man.
Just not good.

921
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,560
And again, there's no disrespect
to the coaches.

922
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:04,120
No, I mean no disrespect to the
kids that's playing, but it's

923
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:07,480
like you fired your head coach
because he wasn't getting it

924
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,120
done.
And you've had, I think we've

925
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:15,200
had four or five defensive
starters that have been out

926
00:51:15,720 --> 00:51:20,080
that's not playing or, you know,
leaving and maybe 6 or 7, two

927
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:23,560
deep guys.
I mean, you almost got to hold

928
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:25,800
you've.
You've lost almost half of your

929
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:29,200
two deep in one way or another
between guys that are Portland

930
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,240
and guys that are injured.
Yeah, right.

931
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,480
So it's like it's never an
excuse.

932
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,840
You definitely want to go and
win a game, but for me, I'm

933
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:40,120
like, I'm still watching, I'm
still getting upset when we

934
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,320
don't win.
But realistically, taking a step

935
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:45,280
back, looking at things, I'm
like, man, these kids, right?

936
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:46,880
They can't win.
They can't win together.

937
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,120
They don't know how to win.
I mean, you've been under a

938
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:53,440
coaching staff that doesn't know
how to win and now you got kids

939
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,000
that don't know how to win.
You know, they just, they don't.

940
00:51:56,680 --> 00:52:00,440
But again, we can talk a little
bit.

941
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,040
We ain't going to stay on that
long, but we can talk a little

942
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:06,840
bit about the landscape of
college football and coaching.

943
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,600
It's coming up.
I think Curtis messaged me

944
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:13,440
earlier today and said we ain't
got to talk about it now.

945
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,240
But if.
Yeah, he said, we ain't got to

946
00:52:15,240 --> 00:52:18,080
talk about it now.
But if you had one person that

947
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,200
you're looking at as head coach,
who would it be?

948
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,560
And I thought about it because I
throw different names out to

949
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:27,280
Curtis all the time, sometimes
playing, sometimes, you know,

950
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,600
just bouncing it off to see what
he says.

951
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,320
And then I was thinking to
myself, really, I don't know.

952
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:37,040
I really do not know because I
really feel like any name that

953
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:42,760
you throw out, it's going to be
a a crab in a bucket in four

954
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:46,040
more weeks because it's going to
be some coaches, more coaches

955
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,120
get fired.
It's going to be more coaches

956
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:51,640
get shuffled.
So it's like who who do you look

957
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:53,760
at?
Somebody put Jimbo in the in the

958
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:57,120
in the chat again.
We going to answer all the

959
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:00,920
coaching things, but I, I don't
know.

960
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:02,240
I don't know how I feel about
it.

961
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,880
Well, we're not answering that
for two reasons, because next

962
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:08,840
week we have to talk about this
game and all y'all who have been

963
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:12,920
willing to talk about coaching
for the last month, next week's

964
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:16,280
going to be a week because we're
going to let you come on and you

965
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,160
going to put your face on screen
and you don't say who you want

966
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,600
to be The next head coach.
College book of the Virginia

967
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,040
Tech opies I've got.
Mark it down.

968
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,240
Mark it down.
Save the coach.

969
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,960
Batter for next week.
We are thinking it's Monday

970
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,440
because we've got things going
on all our lives that where it

971
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:33,600
ain't going to be a Tuesday.
Wednesday.

972
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:35,720
Bryan, by the way, you didn't
respond.

973
00:53:35,720 --> 00:53:37,960
Is Monday good next week?
For you, Monday is great.

974
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,920
Monday next week we're going to
talk about the Georgia Tech

975
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,600
game.
Maybe something good.

976
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:49,440
I highly doubt it, but bring who
you think you want the head

977
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,640
coach to be.
Why did I say give you all a few

978
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:53,720
weeks?
Everybody was all over John

979
00:53:53,720 --> 00:53:55,920
Summerall's ass.
I want the Tulane coach.

980
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,280
He looked like shit against Ole
Miss, didn't he?

981
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:00,520
Anybody talked about him
anymore.

982
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:02,840
But why not?
Why don't you go with him?

983
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,040
He's a good coach.
Now he looks like crap.

984
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:09,400
Somebody saying James Franklin,
you got somebody in mind?

985
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:11,680
You're going to come here and
you're going to see it live on

986
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:12,880
there and it's going to be
recorded.

987
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:17,600
So if you say something, really
something stupid, everybody in

988
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:21,200
the world that watches our
program is going to know and

989
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,120
we're going to reveal ours too.
We're going to reveal our tally.

990
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:27,120
You got five days, you got 5
days.

991
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:30,520
Think about who you want, who
you want, and you can make it

992
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,280
realistic, unrealistic.
So that's next week.

993
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,280
This is what I'll ask though.
This is what I'll ask the the

994
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:41,000
chat when you come next weekend
to talk about your coaches.

995
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:45,040
At least give us some background
on why you picking this coach,

996
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:47,560
why you think they'll be good.
Give us something.

997
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:49,160
Don't just come in here and say
Nick Saban.

998
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,800
It can be unrealistic, but at
least give us something.

999
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:55,640
Hey, I think Saban could come
in.

1000
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,400
He could build a program up.
He may do it for two years.

1001
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:02,360
Take it on as a, you know, take
it on as a as a project.

1002
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,360
He's from West Virginia.
Have some kind of substance

1003
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,320
behind it if you're going to pop
on.

1004
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:09,680
I get it, man.
We'll run a space just to talk

1005
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,600
crap.
So when we get on air and we

1006
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,360
want to do some talking, still
don't mind talking crap, but I

1007
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,120
just want a little bit of
substance.

1008
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,800
If you're going to come on, give
me a little bit of reason why

1009
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:22,120
you pick that person.
What you what you're feeling.

1010
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,440
Somebody said James Franklin.
I'm hearing James Franklin's

1011
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:29,520
buyout is $50 million.
OK.

1012
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:31,640
It's probably not going to be
James Franklin.

1013
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:36,520
So Pat Fitzgerald.
Me selling out, hey, I want to

1014
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:39,400
say this because you said it
about bringing the sauce.

1015
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,600
The last time we did this,
people would have got on,

1016
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:46,200
brought the sauce.
Y'all brought it that that was

1017
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,720
one reason when this happened, I
didn't want to do it right then

1018
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:50,760
because you need to see how
things matriculate.

1019
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:52,640
You need to see other coaches
being fired.

1020
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:55,800
You need to figure out OK, who's
who's a realistic option.

1021
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,440
And next week we're going to be
about a month and a half out

1022
00:55:58,440 --> 00:55:59,600
from when it's going to be
announced.

1023
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,400
It's not going to be beforehand.
The only way it's going to be

1024
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:05,200
beforehand is if it's a coach
not coaching right now.

1025
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:09,440
That's the one let's do for him.
All right, last piece what we

1026
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,840
can do better moving forward and
I'm going to throw this to

1027
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:14,760
Brian.
First tally you go second all.

1028
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:17,440
Right.
We love Kyron.

1029
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:20,640
We've interviewed him.
He is a hell of a young man,

1030
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:26,240
nice as he can be, plays hard.
But should there be a

1031
00:56:26,240 --> 00:56:30,360
quarterback change before some
point this season?

1032
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:34,520
This for me.
This is you first, then Tally

1033
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:39,120
can chime in.
At this point, I say yes,

1034
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:44,080
because at, at this point we
know what Kyron is and what he

1035
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,040
isn't.
We, we've, we've seen enough

1036
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:50,040
tape at this point where I don't
think we're all of a sudden

1037
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:53,600
going to see a different
football player roll out there

1038
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:57,440
next week.
Now what what he does is that he

1039
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:03,760
does have games where he is
playing confidently and can can

1040
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:07,640
play a notch up.
But the issue that we have has

1041
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:14,600
always been consistency.
And we haven't found the recipe

1042
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:19,520
to to to get him to a point
where he can play his best

1043
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:23,120
consistently.
And I think at this point, it's

1044
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:27,040
probably better served for us to
figure out what we have behind

1045
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:30,320
him, regardless of who the next
coach is, because there's going

1046
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:33,800
to be conversations of who you
can keep, who you can pay, all

1047
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:37,040
these things.
And you got two guys behind him.

1048
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,280
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Both of them have remaining

1049
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:44,200
eligibility.
So I'd at least want to see what

1050
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:47,480
they have.
I'd like to see what they can do

1051
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:51,960
with the roster that's remaining
for this team because obviously

1052
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:55,840
they don't have they're they're
not coming into this like Kyron

1053
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:58,120
where where they've, they've
worked with some of these guys

1054
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:00,040
for, you know, a couple years at
this point.

1055
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:01,760
And you know, they, they're,
they're coming in fresh.

1056
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:03,640
I'd like to see what they can do
with some of the talent that's

1057
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:06,720
already on the roster because we
know Kyron's not going to be

1058
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:08,120
here next year one way or the
other.

1059
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,000
So.
Now, Kyron's a senior SO.

1060
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:12,920
Yeah, exactly.
So he's not going to be here one

1061
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:13,840
way or the other.
Exactly.

1062
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:19,600
So at at the end of the day, I'd
like to, I'd like to see some

1063
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,000
new blood in there and just see,
see what if that can bring a

1064
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:23,760
little bit of a spark to the
offense.

1065
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,960
Yeah, no, definitely.
Even if you just doing it for a

1066
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:32,760
series or a couple of plays and
trying to throw some different

1067
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:36,000
wrinkles in.
I mean, you got to do something.

1068
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:37,680
You got to try to go win some
games.

1069
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:41,080
You got to go try to, you know,
give some kids the opportunity

1070
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:44,040
because everybody's, you know,
vying for a position, whether

1071
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:47,440
it's at Virginia Tech or if it's
at William and Mary, you know,

1072
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,040
whatever.
If they're thinking about

1073
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:53,800
transferring to, I will say if
I'm the coach and I'm leaving

1074
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:57,960
Kyron in, I'm not.
He's not passing the ball 30 * a

1075
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:02,200
game or 25 * a game.
I think his sweet spot for me

1076
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:06,200
passing the ball is probably 15
to 20 * a game.

1077
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,320
And guess what you're going to
be doing on those other plays?

1078
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:13,400
You're going to be running it.
You got to, you got to.

1079
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:18,800
I mean, if you're going to look
right now, Hanes King has 108

1080
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:23,720
pass attempts, 74 completions
for 758 yards.

1081
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:28,240
Again, that schedule has been
easy, but still, you still got

1082
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:31,520
to go out and win the games.
You know he's got 3. 100 he's

1083
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:36,680
got 3 touchdown passes.
Yeah, he's not, he's not, he's

1084
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:40,040
not a passing.
He's not a like like, Rick Talk

1085
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:41,480
said.
He's not really a quarterback,

1086
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:43,040
you know, He's a football
player.

1087
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:45,840
He just goes out and does what
needs to be done to win the

1088
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:47,600
game.
Now Kyron, on the other hand,

1089
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:51,880
almost has 100 more pass
attempts than him, you know, and

1090
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:53,600
that's great.
We're not getting anywhere with

1091
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:55,520
this crazy.
Not at all, and I know.

1092
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:57,600
They got an extra 197.
Still.

1093
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:02,200
Yeah, and I'm with y'all on this
and I think it's more for the

1094
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:05,560
fact of for wrangle and pop than
anything.

1095
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,000
And I don't care who plays and
who doesn't.

1096
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:11,520
Or both of them play.
You got to be fair to those

1097
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:14,800
guys, they came here, they
expected to be backups and then

1098
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:19,160
expect to compete in the future
for the job If, and you don't

1099
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:21,640
know if they're going to be able
to stay here or not, right?

1100
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:25,040
You don't, You don't because we
don't know who the coach is yet.

1101
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:30,400
At least get them some game film
and everybody's like, well what

1102
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:35,800
about winning the game y'all?
We ain't doing.

1103
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:38,960
It we ain't doing it.
We ain't five and one in

1104
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:40,800
struggling.
We're two and four.

1105
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:46,520
It's it's one of those things
where at some point, you know,

1106
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:49,640
I'm not saying cut losses, but
you need to look at up and down

1107
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:51,880
the roster, like what's
happening on defense with like

1108
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:55,600
Chambers and Robinson playing
over young older guys, JoJo Crim

1109
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:58,680
playing over some older guys, a
couple different Brett Clatter

1110
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:00,080
Brawl's playing a couple older
guys.

1111
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:02,440
Well, eventually you've just got
to be to the young guys.

1112
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:04,960
Like, listen, go out there and
play because if you're not here

1113
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:09,760
next year, at least you've got,
you know, 5000 snaps of game

1114
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:11,560
film where you can go show
somebody.

1115
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:13,440
Hey listen, this is what I am.
Yeah.

1116
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:17,000
Let me ask you this because I
mean, we're, we're getting to a

1117
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:21,840
point now where just doing the
math and looking at the schedule

1118
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:27,320
and I know the schedule is what
it is, but when you look at it,

1119
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:30,280
you don't see a a lot of wins
left on this on the schedule.

1120
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:35,040
So the one goal that potentially
is still on the table is highly

1121
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:37,480
unlikely, which would be making
a bowl game, right?

1122
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:39,360
So that's highly unlikely at
this point.

1123
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:43,640
So the next best thing is to get
the guys that have remaining

1124
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:47,880
eligibility a whole lot of snaps
or as many snaps as you can get

1125
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:50,200
them.
I I, I don't necessarily like

1126
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:52,360
you want to win the game.
Yes, you want to go out there

1127
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:55,640
and put your best out there.
Yes, every week, but at the same

1128
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:58,600
time you want to see what you
have because this we're playing

1129
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:01,600
the long game at this point.
Not that this season doesn't

1130
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:06,080
matter anymore, but the outcomes
of this season matter a whole

1131
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:13,720
lot less than what's coming in
2026 and in the future. 100% All

1132
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:18,120
right, So real quick, I mean,
we, we talked with Rhett talk.

1133
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:25,200
Y'all got a key for this week?
A key, A key.

1134
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:29,880
What's the key to a if if the
hope if we're sitting here next

1135
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:33,400
Monday before we'd go into coach
talk and we're like holy bleep,

1136
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:35,720
we did it.
How do we do with Brian Siegel?

1137
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:39,640
What's the key?
The the key is going to be when

1138
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:43,280
they get inside the 20, you
force them to kick for three,

1139
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:46,560
and when we get inside the 20,
we're scoring touchdowns because

1140
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:48,440
we've been awful in both
directions.

1141
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:53,640
If we do that with any degree of
competence, we'll at least make

1142
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:59,440
that a game.
Haynes King's health and us

1143
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:05,120
having somebody having a God
game and like Stewart had

1144
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:08,040
against North Carolina State,
that's the two things.

1145
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:11,600
Somebody having a crazy game,
running the ball because it's

1146
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:14,800
not going to happen in the past.
And then and then the receiving

1147
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:17,800
yards and Haynes King.
I don't want nobody to get

1148
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:20,360
injured.
I'm just saying how Haynes King

1149
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:25,960
plays and like Rick Talk said,
it's a lot of times where, you

1150
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:28,800
know, he could get banged up a
little bit.

1151
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:35,160
So his health and thus running.
But he also plays better when

1152
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:39,440
he's when he's nicked.
So if he's going to get nicked,

1153
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:41,440
he's got to get nicked enough to
get out the game.

1154
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:48,080
Yeah, if you if you've asked.
Me how to win this game, He

1155
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:52,000
needs to pass the ball like 40
times.

1156
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:56,920
If Hank's Kings passed the ball
40 times, then we have a shot

1157
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:59,640
because that tells me we
stopped.

1158
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:02,960
We slowed them down enough
running and we did what Brian

1159
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:05,040
said.
We scored a couple touchdowns

1160
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:08,600
inside the red zone.
So now they're like, all right,

1161
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:13,280
we got to pass the ball. 40
times if he throws it 40 times,

1162
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:16,160
then that that's what I'm saying
the rails, well, that's what I'm

1163
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:19,040
saying his.
Highest this year is 28.

1164
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:22,160
That was against Clemson.
But what I'm saying is if he has

1165
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:26,120
to pass that much again, that
was a three-point win against

1166
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:28,120
Clemson.
If he has to pass that much,

1167
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:31,560
that's our only chance.
If you tell me he's at like 18,

1168
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:34,560
Oh God.
It's going to be it's they

1169
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:39,000
going, they going to easily
cover, easily cover 14, Yeah.

1170
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:42,160
Because, because at that point
if like Wreck talk was talking

1171
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:44,320
about, you look at the, the
Russian attack, they're, they're

1172
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:47,480
going to be easily over that,
that 160 mark that he was

1173
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:49,840
talking about, there'll be
somewhere north of 200 in those

1174
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:54,480
rushing yards if he's only
throwing 18 times. 100% All

1175
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:58,720
righty, Brian, I, I put on
there, let's talk about the

1176
01:04:58,720 --> 01:04:59,760
portal.
Fuck the portal.

1177
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:01,920
We'll talk about the portal next
week and we got a little more

1178
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:03,520
time.
Fuck that portal.

1179
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:06,760
Fuck the portal right now.
Next week, let's get

1180
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:09,600
predictions.
Is anybody predicting to win?

1181
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:11,080
I'm not.
No.

1182
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:13,680
Dally.
No.

1183
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:18,560
I mean, I'm, I'm respectable.
I'm tempted to to say Georgia

1184
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:22,800
Tech covers Georgia.
No I think I think Virginia Tech

1185
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:24,720
would cover it.
May be a 14 point game.

1186
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:27,560
It was a 14 1/2 last we checked.
It was.

1187
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:30,320
Hold on.
That's what it opened at.

1188
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:33,240
Let me see where it's at now.
Hold on, let me get to my out

1189
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:35,200
here.
That indicates how much it's

1190
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:37,840
going.
To be, they'll RIP my heart out

1191
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:42,040
and lose by, you know, 14 points
or 10 points or something crazy

1192
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:46,840
like that. 14 1/2 Fourteen and a
half Fourteen and a half 14 1/2

1193
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:49,120
Is it?
10 to 14 point game is what I

1194
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:53,680
think Georgia Tech's winning. 10
to 14 Georgia Tech Good point

1195
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:58,000
here by King season.
He did throw 42 times in a game

1196
01:05:58,000 --> 01:05:59,840
they should have lost.
That was against Wake.

1197
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:04,000
They're 42 times.
All right, well, let's get to

1198
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:06,520
it, Brian.
Let's look at our gambling picks

1199
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:10,640
because, you know, why not?
We ain't got much else to do.

1200
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:12,240
Why not?
So.

1201
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:14,400
We're looking like the Hokies
out here, man, What the hell?

1202
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:19,120
All right, well, Tally and Tally
and Shelton could come back to

1203
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:21,600
500 this week.
I'm truly looking like the

1204
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:22,960
Hokies.
We not coming back.

1205
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:27,280
I know I'm not.
So how did how did I go?

1206
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:31,080
Actually 500 last week.
That was unexpected.

1207
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:34,760
If you bet with me last week for
the first time since I think

1208
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:41,440
week 1, you would have at least
broke even. 100% who knows

1209
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:44,680
Brian, you went all, you went a
couple of sideways ones and it

1210
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:47,520
works sometimes.
I think you took you took UVA,

1211
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:51,640
that was 1, you took UVA and
what was your other one?

1212
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:55,680
Hold on.
Blank and Jafferdin hang on a.

1213
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:57,560
Minute averdin here, where is
it?

1214
01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:09,800
I got it wrote down somewhere.
Miami Miami saved you the two

1215
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:12,520
biggest rival puts Brian in 500
last week.

1216
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:17,600
Well, this week, by the way, we,
we, we talked about it when we

1217
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:19,960
were chatting.
Tal, I think you said it or

1218
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:21,440
maybe Brian, y'all said one of
y'all said it.

1219
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:24,240
Like, holy shit, there's a bunch
of good games this weekend.

1220
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:26,040
A ton of good.
Games, yeah.

1221
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:29,600
At least what, four or five?
Ranked versus ranked.

1222
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:33,840
Yeah, right, Four or five ranked
versus ranked couple, 5 huge

1223
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:37,520
rivalry games.
And I'll start it off and I am

1224
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:42,160
going to the biggest rivalry
game this weekend at the Texas

1225
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:46,080
State Fair in the Cotton Bowl,
the Red River Shootout.

1226
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:49,120
You ever call it a rivalry?
You're not a fucking college

1227
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:51,080
football saying go away, go
away.

1228
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:55,840
I wish I could change my bet
based on the news that literally

1229
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:59,160
broke an hour ago and I sent you
all the message.

1230
01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:03,600
Like damn it, John Matee is now
questionable to play.

1231
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:07,640
John Matee is Oklahoma's
quarterback who's been balling

1232
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:10,760
this season before he fucked up
his thumb, but we.

1233
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:13,720
Did you take Texas?
I'll go ahead play.

1234
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:16,640
Texas, I think, because if Matee
wasn't going to play, I think

1235
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:18,240
Texas had a chance to win this
game.

1236
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:21,680
I'll have to stick with it
because that's what you know,

1237
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:25,040
when we when when we make our
picks at the time it's time to

1238
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:27,200
make the picks.
That was my knowledge.

1239
01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:32,200
Texas 1 1/2.
Please don't let Matique play.

1240
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:36,840
Y'all can beat Texas by a point
without Jon Matique playing and

1241
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:39,560
still get a win.
Texas.

1242
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:44,120
Sheldon Rd. letter right along
with you there bud.

1243
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:47,120
Tally you.
Texas.

1244
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:54,319
And even without the information
on quarterback, I went OU here I

1245
01:08:54,319 --> 01:08:55,640
think.
That you did.

1246
01:08:56,279 --> 01:08:58,040
I thought it was going to be a
scraper by OU.

1247
01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:01,479
Regardless, I I haven't liked
what I've seen from Texas at all

1248
01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:03,920
this year so far so.
They trash.

1249
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:05,960
They do, right?
They're trash.

1250
01:09:06,279 --> 01:09:09,040
I mean, they got stomped in the
swamp by the Florida team.

1251
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:15,040
So yeah.
All right, next game is who's up

1252
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:18,359
next, Sally.
Hi, Lee.

1253
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:23,720
I'm definitely going to be a LSU
fan for this game.

1254
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:29,359
I hope they win by 40 points
because I'm a hater and one of

1255
01:09:29,359 --> 01:09:31,560
the things I want to hate on is
South Carolina.

1256
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:37,080
But I am taking South Carolina
in this this point spread just

1257
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:41,279
because I want LSU to do that.
And unless you that defense

1258
01:09:41,279 --> 01:09:43,600
hadn't looked that great to me.
I mean, offense, the office

1259
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:46,319
hadn't looked that great to me,
so I don't think they're going

1260
01:09:46,319 --> 01:09:48,479
to score enough points to beat
them by 10 points.

1261
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:54,920
Yeah, when we were when we were
doing the picks for this and,

1262
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:57,440
and and Tally dropped his and I
was like, you know, he gave his

1263
01:09:57,440 --> 01:09:59,800
justification.
I was like, OK, so we're we're

1264
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:05,400
in full hate mode at at this
point that that's all we have to

1265
01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:07,680
cling on to for the rest of the
season is being haters.

1266
01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:12,000
And I'll, it's fun.
As depressing as it is, it's at

1267
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:13,400
least a little fun to hate on
that.

1268
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:16,480
But I think South Carolina's
going to keep this one close

1269
01:10:16,480 --> 01:10:19,960
enough to to cover there.
But I do think LSU takes the

1270
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:23,160
victory, so I'll take South
Carolina as well.

1271
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:30,720
I'm going to take South Carolina
as well, but for for another

1272
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:33,960
reason.
A no Smyers out Garrett.

1273
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:35,560
No Smyers not playing anymore
this year.

1274
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:38,400
He's done done.
Yep.

1275
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:45,440
And I think 9 1/2, and by all
means, I mean South Carolina

1276
01:10:45,440 --> 01:10:47,000
could have been in Missouri the
other week.

1277
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:50,200
South Carolina could easily be 4
and one right now.

1278
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:54,200
I think they cover and I think
they got a chance to like pull

1279
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:58,040
off a massive upset down in
Death Valley.

1280
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:04,000
I mean, I mean, because if you
shame the first thing you throw

1281
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:06,000
is just throw the line like they
ain't got a starting

1282
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:07,360
quarterback.
And they say they're going to be

1283
01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:08,960
just about 10 points.
Yeah.

1284
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:12,240
Shelton, I think he rode along
with us.

1285
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:16,400
That is a across the board.
That's a BCP suite baby.

1286
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:21,000
Yep, next is Shelton's pick.
Not here.

1287
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:27,160
BYU, Arizona.
Arizona, the unranked team at

1288
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:34,320
home getting the 1 1/2 points.
An 8:00 game out of 1030 game by

1289
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:36,600
the way.
So this will not be rec talks

1290
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:38,480
game of the week that he live
streaming.

1291
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:40,520
But Sheldon, what did he say?
What did Sheldon say?

1292
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:43,840
Sheldon's riding with Zona
Tally.

1293
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:49,920
I'm riding with Zona as well.
B Ron All.

1294
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:51,880
Right.
Not so fast, guys.

1295
01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:54,960
I'm gonna go with this.
I'm gonna go with the Mormons,

1296
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:57,240
man.
We had we had them come up

1297
01:11:57,240 --> 01:11:59,360
earlier.
Might as well ride with them,

1298
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:00,600
baby.
All right.

1299
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:03,360
I'm going Arizona too, and
here's why.

1300
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:06,560
Unranked team.
Y'all know who BYU is playing

1301
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:08,520
next week?
Who we got?

1302
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:10,400
They play in Utah in the Holy
War.

1303
01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:13,200
Their mind is not going to be on
play in Arizona.

1304
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:18,200
Their mind is going to be
playing Utah at Utah next week.

1305
01:12:18,480 --> 01:12:21,920
They are going to stumble, lose
their undefeated record before

1306
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:25,440
they go to the Holy War.
Arizona plus 1 1/2.

1307
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:29,880
Ryan, where's our last stop on
this wonderful trip?

1308
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:35,960
Oh, you know where we're going.
Eugene, OR.

1309
01:12:36,480 --> 01:12:40,760
Yes, Sir, yes Sir.
This is probably the marquee

1310
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:46,040
matchup of the week.
I was kind of fighting back and

1311
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:48,320
forth on this one, even with
that line.

1312
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:51,480
But ultimately where I landed is
I think it's going to be about a

1313
01:12:51,480 --> 01:12:56,320
touchdown victory for Oregon.
That hook was a little too much

1314
01:12:56,320 --> 01:13:01,200
for me.
I think Oregon's going to roll

1315
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:03,240
them.
I don't think I think I would

1316
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:05,520
have taken this at 9:00 or 9
1/2.

1317
01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:08,920
Oregon rolls up there.
Indiana crashes back to earth.

1318
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:11,760
They're truly first.
We saw what happened last year.

1319
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:14,640
They beat shit out of everybody.
Then they had to play a big boy

1320
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:16,840
and they got thumped.
They going to get thumped again.

1321
01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:21,040
Yeah, I got to go Oregon.
I can't really.

1322
01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:26,600
I can't really choose any
Indiana games.

1323
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:31,240
I think it was Jason last year.
Was it Jason or Robbie J?

1324
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:33,480
Jason, that would throw.
Throw some in there, yeah.

1325
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:35,760
Yeah.
Yeah, it was.

1326
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:39,200
Robbie, Robbie was a hater.
He's like, he's like anytime

1327
01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:42,080
Indiana's on here go against
them because they don't win the

1328
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:44,440
big games.
So Robbie's who I'm talking

1329
01:13:44,440 --> 01:13:45,600
about then?
Yeah.

1330
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So Robbie said there was
pretenders last year, not saying

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they're pretenders this year.
I just need to see more for me

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01:13:51,480 --> 01:13:54,960
to put them on the on the win
column, on the on the spread

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01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:58,360
all.
Right, so there it is.

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01:13:58,360 --> 01:14:02,000
There's all our big screeners.
A little short episode this week

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because I do believe in next
Monday we're going to probably

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go a full 2 hours easy. 2 hours
because we'll talk about the

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01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:13,600
Georgia Tech start.
Jumping on start talking about

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the coaching.
It's going, it's going to go a

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01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:17,960
little bit bad.
So there's some new folks in

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01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:19,560
here, Brian.
Just tell them what will happen

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01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:23,520
next week so they're prepared.
Yeah, so next week, what we're

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01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:25,560
going to do, we're going to
have, we're going, you know,

1343
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:27,920
recap what happened with Georgia
Tech.

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01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:29,840
We'll, we'll, we'll break that
down.

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01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:33,960
And at some point in the
episode, I will drop the link to

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01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:38,240
join the stream as people, you
know, click the link.

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01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:42,160
They'll come into the the green
room there and we'll try to work

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01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:47,080
you on as, as quick as we can.
Try to come in, make your .2 to

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01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:50,520
3 minutes, something like that.
Try to try to be succinct, get

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01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:53,720
your point across, but but
definitely, as Tally said

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01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:56,480
earlier, come with come with
some, some credentials, some

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01:14:56,480 --> 01:14:59,760
backup as as far as the
reasoning and and all that.

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01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:02,160
Don't just, you know, throw
names at a wall and say, all

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01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:04,400
right, see you later.
Exactly.

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01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:07,400
All right.
With that being said, Tally, we

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01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:09,800
turn it in early tonight.
Let's get some sleep, boys.

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01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:13,000
That wraps up this episode of
the Boundary Corner podcast,

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01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:16,480
brought to you by Countstand the
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01:15:16,480 --> 01:15:17,840
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Lexington.

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I'm Curtis Wilson.
I'm Brian Siegler.

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01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:22,840
Visit Iowa.
Jonathan Tally.

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01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:24,400
Sorry, Tally, I stepped on you
there.

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01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:26,920
My bad.
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01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:29,520
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We are on them all.

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01:15:36,480 --> 01:15:38,840
Tally's playing with thing
that's pretty funny.

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01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:41,280
As always.
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01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:43,560
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Appreciate y'all for listening.

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01:15:53,440 --> 01:15:54,720
Appreciate all the stuff in the
chat.

1375
01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:58,640
Appreciate rec talk night even
though we're two and four.

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01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:02,600
As always, let's go.
Hokies.

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Hokies.
None.