This week we dive into another disappointing one point loss as we recap the latest letdown against Georgia Tech, a defeat that moves the Hokies out of bowl contention. We then turn the page over to preview a surprisingly solid Duke team as the Hokies are set to travel to Durham this Saturday to take on the Blue Devils.
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Welcome back to the boundary
Corner podcast with my partner.
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Brian Sigler, I'm Curtis Wilson
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All right, Brian, how you doing
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tonight, man, man, I'm tired,
dude.
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Oh yeah, yeah, you got nailed it
work today.
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I didn't usually Brian starts
putting notes from all his game
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film in throughout the day on
Tuesdays.
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And like I went in there, tenant
one was in there, one of their
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one, and nothing was in there.
And when I went there, three and
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nothing was in there messed and
Dude, are you alive?
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I'm good.
I'm getting there.
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I got it in there.
It was one of those days where I
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didn't anticipate it being
anything but then was a thing.
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So I kinda ran fire bullets at
him all day, just attack attack.
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I didn't see it coming.
I didn't see it coming.
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Hey my head down, head my head
down.
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It's one of those things we got
in the background over here,
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over my left shoulder, some
action.
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So, if you've got betting lines,
hey, aim of this, Second
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quarter, which it's in the
second quarter.
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What in the world happened to
this game?
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This game was an 8:00.
Kick house.
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It just in the second quarter.
What are they doing?
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No, it's 14 to 14 at that.
It must have been like 100
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passes.
Anybody knows exactly what's
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going on that game.
Please comment, I started the
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beginning of it but so we'll
have that in the background
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throughout the remainder of the
show.
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There you go.
All right, Brian.
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Well let's get to it, man.
A tough tough.
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Tough recap.
We got to go through here.
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We talked a couple times
Saturday.
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We've obviously talk numerous
times since then.
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Yep.
The the Hokies blowing 11-point
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lead in the fourth quarter and
fall to Georgia, Tech 2827.
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And I have this literary
classic.
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I love Piggy and Gerald for
anybody out there with kids p
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and Gerald are dope straight up.
If you read those things with
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your kit, a, you're helping your
kid, but be, they're also very
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funny.
And I love the one where piggy
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gets upset, when Gerald breaks
his toy, I am mad.
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I am sad.
I am mad and sad.
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That is kind of what we've been
for the last few days.
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Braun with the result in all the
shit out of this game.
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Yeah, that was.
I mean it's Nothing to lose in
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that fashion once to have it
happen back to back.
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So the week before, we're
punching above our pay grade a
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little bit, despite them having
a, you know, a bad record
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freshman.
Yeah.
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And then, you know, this week we
play down a little bit and way
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down in terms of overall talent.
And it's r at the point now
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where you know, we are what our
record is, regardless of What
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we're doing on the field, two
and seven all day long.
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We will not go to a bowl for the
first time since 1992.
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If you count 20, 20, 20, 20 the
team was Bowl eligible.
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You can go into that story all
day if they voted not to, or the
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coaches voted not to or
whatever, but it is what it is.
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And Brian something we had not
seen since ODU crept, his head
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back in, and the offense.
Turns the ball over four times
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during the game and you with the
pain I started talking about it.
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Brian pulls up the place, she
Curtis.
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It's not just that we gave the
ball away four times.
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Oh no we didn't just give the
ball away.
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We gave the ball away on ours on
the other team side of the
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field.
Every time I mean this this will
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these are Drive killing Point
surrendering turnovers.
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We're not just talking about you
know we gave the ball away or oh
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we had a first down and then we
gave the ball away know, we are
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in a tour on the doorstep of
scoring.
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Every time, we're giving the
ball away.
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Three of the four times.
The first one was early, we
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fumbled at the Georgia Tech 22
and we know will Ross.
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All year had been making field
goals from that range, but
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you're driving and immediately,
you were like three points.
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Just go ahead and book that
three points off the board.
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And that sort of, you know, it
set the tone for the early first
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quarter because Georgia Tech
jumps, all up, gets up, to
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nothing.
And then, for the next roughly,
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Re and a half quarters 3/4.
Everything kind of went the
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Hokies way.
The Hokies would score 28 of the
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next math right here. 28 of the
next 34 points.
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Yeah right.
Yeah, because we went up or 27
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or 3327 of the next 33.
Yep, we have the next 33 points
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and you roll into the fourth
quarter.
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You got to lead and you know
let's talk about the fumble at
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the 10-yard line because I made
a note here to myself, I wanted
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to when we stopped them on that
fourth down and I'm listening to
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it again.
I don't get RSN but I love Bill
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and Mike so there's nothing
better than to sit in.
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Car or have the earbuds in and
listen to them call the game.
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And we get that ball and I'm
like be aggressive like right to
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me right there and we were with
the gate.
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Well, the Ron's I mean we were
running the ball consistently,
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but I was sitting there and I'm
like, you have them on the heels
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Derek's.
Probably expecting you to try to
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eat the clock one shot.
Just like one shot.
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Get Caleb rotate.
Get that safety to move over
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when we did, but you know,
that's okay.
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We got down inside the 10 yard
line.
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And then we fumble the ball.
And right there.
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If if we don't fumble it all
it's a chip shot and if 14-point
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lead in a game decided by point
where they only scored 13,
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excuse me.
Yeah. 14 in the last, you know,
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couple minutes there.
Yeah.
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And it's one of those things
where we had the momentum we
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were we were we were pushing
them.
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We were pushing, we were pushing
them.
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And, you know, I know it's not
a, it's not a garbage play.
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I know, it was legitimate, we
gash and we gash them.
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Georgia Tech's defensive tackle
goes down with a shoulder front
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shoulder injury.
Pulls the guys off the field.
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For two to three minutes, we get
back on the field.
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Very first play is the fumble
and so it's like as soon as soon
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as that as soon as we had the
momentum taken away from us
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there for a second, the
composer's lost and then as soon
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as that fumble happened it felt
like here we go again here and
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again and it's like that the
person that can't finish just
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takes the air out and
immediately they go on that big
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90-yard drive and it stunk but I
Ask you this.
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Okay, so it comes out of that.
We run the ball again.
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Are you okay with that?
Because clearly, you're at the
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10-yard line.
Again, I'll push for it again,
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aggressiveness.
I to me, I think right there.
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Don't you feel like they're just
going to key in on the run?
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It doesn't there?
So I have no problem with that
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because it's a first down run.
Okay.
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And he gets, he would have
gotten see all yards.
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Oh yeah, he had to get for 26
yards on that run in your down
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even closer.
To the goal line.
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I mean, it's a way tional.
You got to know ball protection.
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Trumps everything that goes up
stage in the game well and then
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obviously, you know, they go and
score cut it to a five point
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lead at that point in time.
Yep.
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Yeah, five-point lead.
And then we're driving again,
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we're on their side of the field
and Grant Wheels, throws an
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interception.
They subsequently take that one
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would take it down and that
would be them with the go-ahead
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touchdown.
And once again, you're right on
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the doorstep, the field goal
range is so many different
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things and like this team,
continuously just shoots its
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foot off every week.
Now, in some way, shape or form,
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and in, as a fan, it's
disheartening.
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I mean, the only upside, I
continue to hear is at least,
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it's not And I know some people
will laugh and say at least I
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don't have to hear about
execution all the time.
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At least I hear coaches, at
least I hear Brent price.
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A, it's on me as a coach to make
this right versus because there
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was nothing more infuriating
last three years, especially for
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years.
Well, it's the execution of the
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game when, you know, we know, we
know, we know you got to
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execute, I mean, but what if and
in there?
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So maybe that's the thing, is
that, you know, Obviously, some
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of this is on the players, and
we had that discussion last week
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and we continue and we'll talk
about it again a little bit this
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week.
You know, what's on the players?
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What's on the coaches?
What's on, kind of a shared
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responsibility, but at least
we're getting the right things.
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After the fact, I think the fan
base in general is just kind of
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we're a pathetic.
We, we haven't gotten a win in
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so long.
It's, you know, it kind of is
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what it is.
At this point last time we gotta
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win, it was 87, Degrees outside
and still humidity in the air.
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And now we're sitting this
weekend.
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It's going to be what 60s 60s
beautiful fall weather down in
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Durham as we talk about Know The
Enemy later.
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Couple other things.
Obviously something we missed a
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40-yard field goal because of
the paths.
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Now we have sucks because when
it's a one-point game you just
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you start coming up all the
points, right?
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Brian.
It's like 3 plus 3 plus 3,
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there's nine.
It's a touchdown win.
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If you don't fumble the ball,
you punch it in, you beat them
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by 10, and that's where you,
that's where one thing is again,
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if you score the touchdown, even
though inside the 10, the game
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is over.
The game is over.
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Because they're going to be
pressing, let's just and then
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obviously, we'll talk about
Tucker Hollow in the while.
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Hell of a return late in the
game, we're almost at Midfield
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and with 50 seconds, left in
college football, two first
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downs, get you to field goal
range stops, the clock, gives
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you time pride and kick a field
goal and grout.
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Well, fumbles the ball, his
third turnover of the day.
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And in, that just seems what it
was right great opportunities.
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Every single one squandered and,
and is much as, as much as we
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talk about the missed
opportunities, I still feel like
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I look at this game.
This is, we played a bad defense
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and somehow we only got just a
little over 300 yards.
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We only scored 13 points, only
scored 13 points.
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That is a and some of this is Is
again, when you look at it, the
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missed opportunities, true
thousand percent because, you
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know, so we had the points, I
wouldn't, you wouldn't have a
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big gripe about the points that
the offense scored.
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If they had finished the drives
that they got into scoring range
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because it would have been as
you don't.
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You did at least be plus 9.
Yeah.
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You just execute in the red area
or just outside the red area.
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Very true, very, very minimum
plus 9.
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None of them.
The plus sign then in the plus
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22.
But that's not the way it goes.
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Now we did hit that three and a
half number, you talked about.
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So we did effectively run the
ball, Grant Wells, ran the ball
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a lot, but so to keep probably
more than I would have liked to
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from.
I would have like I've been
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asking as a fake hand, as
effective as King was for most
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of the game.
He could have easily given me at
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least five more carries and that
that probably puts him just just
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north of 100.
Other sets that on Saturday was
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just converting 33 percent.
On third down.
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I mean yeah.
It's the only upside was we got
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you mentioned it to me.
We would get a couple first
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downs.
Then we would go then we would
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go to third down, not get it.
So maybe again the Silver
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Linings we keep talking about
well at least this against a bad
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defense we actually didn't just
go three and out all the time.
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We move the ball occasionally
but again that's not good enough
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against a deep against its
competition right now.
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Competition is not good.
In its struggles, its struggles
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with things if it's just odd.
I mean, I know we had, we had
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big plays against NC State that
made that look probably better
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offensive ly than yeah, score
wise than it did, in terms of
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executions drive-by Drive.
Yeah, this one.
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We were a little bit better
drive by drive but we, when we
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weren't moving it into scoring
range, we weren't Moving it at
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all.
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So is that your that juxtapose
that so is that a couple of your
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bright spots on?
Yeah, yeah.
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I mean, I think if, when you
look at bright spots, more
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sustained drives this week.
And again, probably the best
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rushing game since pit.
That's two things positive that
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you can glean from this this
effort.
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I mean, but then, you know, back
more false start penalties for.
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So how many does that make in
the last two weeks?
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More than we should ever have a
member for should be a Max in
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the game because it's yeah, he
get it.
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I think 44 is an improvement.
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But good Lord we set the
standard.
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Absolutely atrocious when you
have 10.
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I think I've hit the wall this
week because I like I can't I
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can't find bright spots this
week.
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I can't.
I look at it.
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And I can't find any bright
spots.
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I'm almost crusty.
You know, I do you know that or
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the oh, I got nothing dip so
nothing.
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I can filch not us.
It's nah, I have nothing anymore
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for the offense because it's
it's continue.
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Its one it's I think it's 120
now, total where significantly
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lower?
I want to say like 108 scoring,
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it's nothing there and I think
it's more of the frustrating
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points of You give me a little
bit and then it just looks bad.
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Give me a little bit looks bad,
like be consistent.
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Could you just be bad one game?
I mean, just be atrocious.
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One game, kick a field goal.
Get nothing else.
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At least I can say, well, at
least we're just bad versus, you
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know, for the second and third
quarters, you know, we were okay
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but as yeah, it is.
Yeah.
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Um, let's flip over to we put
it, we put another two quarters
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together this time instead of
just the one, there you go.
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All right, let's flip over to
defense and I think I think this
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was the worst game of the
season.
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What about you considering the
quality of opponent the yards?
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And Surrendered I'd say yeah I'd
say that.
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Yeah that's probably the worst
overall effort from the defense
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this year.
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And in case you didn't look at
the stat lines, we gave up over
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200 rushing over 250 passing to
pyron the man that Brian said,
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if Sims didn't go, we should
see.
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And we did see him and he's a
freshman, of course, but it's
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more of just the average is,
right?
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I'm an average is person.
I look at average as a ton
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because we're you Annette from
averages kind of Indica dates
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your performance and for us that
we this is a this is an office.
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It was barely putting up 300
yards, he put a 450.
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This was an offense that was
barely barely getting 16 points
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a game and they put up 28 And
you know, that's what that's
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what gets me is.
I look at the average.
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If it's a, if it's a 10 to 15
percent increase, whether
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scoring or yard, that's fine
because weird things happen in
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games.
But when it's that much and I
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mean, it's legitimately 50%
increase across all lines.
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That's just uncalled for.
And it just says, you know, what
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was going on with the defense on
Yeah, it's really, I mean you
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look at the the Tate.
I mean, it was really a bad
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opening quarter and a bad fourth
quarter.
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I mean there wasn't a whole lot
of yard surrendered in the
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middle there where they had a
couple drives that got a door
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near the 50.
But for the most part it was was
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a good second and third quarter.
It was just really really bad
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kind of on the bookends there in
those drives weren't like
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60-yard drives.
They were 90s in 75.
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They were big truck.
Yeah they were big drives me
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nuts.
You take away the drive that
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where they got three too close.
Half.
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Yeah, they really did a pretty
good job in the second third
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quarter.
Yeah.
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And I'll say this of all the
times this year, I've been upset
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a lot of thing.
I think this is the first time
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I've been upset with prize play
calls because on that, third and
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19.
After they sacked Byron, and
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there in his face and say what
you will, he didn't know what
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the hell to do.
He did not know what to do with
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five and six coming after him.
We take a timeout.
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And we run a two-man under.
Thank you, Brian for that
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information.
Three-man rush, we Spy vs
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attacking, it makes no sense
because if you attack at least
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that ball has to come out really
quick where he got if you count,
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it was about, he got three
seconds with McCullum came
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across Very second where have
you been blitzing six.
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He has second and a half in that
band sword is still been in
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McCullum said, pocket.
I don't get that plagued us
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since the first time I was
really like, what are you doing?
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We saw the script NC State.
We saw the script with down and
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distance, and NC State, and the
same thing happened.
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So when you look at it, too by
being able to hold it that long,
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he was able to let The receiver
kind of used the referee is a
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pit.
Yep so delaying had to go over
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the top of the ref gave up
probably a another few yards of
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cushion there.
Now.
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Now you know you're talking
about instead of him getting
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there and probably it being
fourth and four or five, you
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know, you get the first down,
it's true.
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And if its fourth and four or
five, number one you got a
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better chance of getting this.
And fourth, if they go for
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number two, they might punt.
They had been conservative with
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upon all game, they might would
upon it from that position, so
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very true, it they may, or they
may not have on at that point
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and but we'll never know.
Right?
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We'll never know.
Because to me, we ran the wrong
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coverage.
We put so, for what they did, I
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mean, it was the perfect play
against the defense.
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That was called It just was that
I mean they got into the right
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play.
I don't know whether that was
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the play they had before they
call the timeout or not.
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Yeah.
But but they got into the right
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call for the defense that we
were in.
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Yep.
All right.
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Now there were a true, you know,
is as mad as I am and it's
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crusty.
As I want to be, there were two
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young guys who absolutely lashed
and obviously, let's talk about
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the first Tucker.
Holloway In the punt return
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game, holy crap, did he blow up?
You know, he goes in, he breaks
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the Virginia Tech all-time
record and it's like you sit
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here and you think about
everybody that did it right?
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Brian.
Yeah, I mean we've had some, I
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mean, we're not like Miami in
terms of elite punt returners,
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but we're up there.
We're up there, but we are not
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garbage and it's like, you know,
he goes up there and he
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obviously the 90-yard house
call, which was just Beautiful
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way of setting up him, finding
the lanes moving and then turn
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on his Jets, but 188 yards.
He averaged 27 and it was every
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time and then, you know, he got
a chance, you know, leading the
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gave us a chance to get in the
you'll arrange to win the game,
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he did, and that's on top of
already scoring a touchdown on
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top of scoring a touchdown on
top of flipping the field on
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numerous occasions.
Yeah and now it's the question
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of and we'll talk about it.
We're going to we're going to
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kind of cut the recap a little
short because with three games
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We got some things we want to
talk about tonight but we'll
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talk about him and the potential
red shirt and a few time in a
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few minutes here.
The other young got the kalai
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loss.
Oh my God, he jumped the shit
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out of that route.
Holy moly.
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Oh yeah, jumped it and had the
wherewithal to secure it and get
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taken to the end zone to.
So he's flashing more and more
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and he's struggled in the first
quarter and then he turned it on
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the from there, on out.
Yeah, he had a really good rest
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of his birthday game.
Rest of the game, I mean, and
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that's Christian young guys,
flash like that.
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I mean, that at least gives you
hope of things to come.
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But, you know, like I said, it's
difficult trying to trying to
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pick out the Silver Linings here
with with so many straight
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losses and two back-to-back in
devastating fashion.
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Yeah, let's talk about this
Brian.
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You know, someone we know in a
tweet that he made on Saturday
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afternoon As Don be the response
was someone out there.
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Put out, 20 would have this team
at least four and four or at
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least five and four.
For something like that.
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And Don made the comment, the
person who made that, you're
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absolutely right, he's right?
But it goes back to the car
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analogy and that is a car can be
beat to shit where you gotta
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fuck with the ignition.
Gotta give it some gas.
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You don't take off too fast at
the stoplights.
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So yes the owner of that car
knows how to drive it but if he
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gave it to you or me, we
wouldn't be able to get five
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inches.
And I loved that.
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I loved on these analogy there
because yeah, I think we would
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be 45 wins with Justin for went
into him right now.
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Because he knew how to run this
car.
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Yep.
And I sit here, and I think a
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lot of people are still very
bullish on Brent price.
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I know some people are saying
all this doesn't look good.
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Just doesn't look good, but it
ain't like we're far.
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It's not like every game is a
three touchdown launch, right?
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Yeah.
I mean, we're not out there
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getting smoked, we're out there
still competing.
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We're just doing a whole Lot
wrong to stop the any progress
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that we can make in this, in
towards winning more games.
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And we're seeing that happen,
consistently, it's the, you
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know, one step up two steps
back.
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It's shoot yourself in the foot.
There's just, there's so much
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that, like I said, when you find
the silver linings there there,
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but it's hard to feel the Silver
Lining when you're in the midst
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of losing.
So many games in a row, We by
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the way, I just got a message
here.
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The Know The Enemy.
This is from foul, some way we
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communicate with on Twitter.
Lat the Know The Enemy should be
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the Hokies this week because we
were going to royally screw
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ourselves in some way this week
against Duke that was very cool
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to see.
Yep.
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Right guys the the all those
guys from 2023 with that video,
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Even after the loss was very
cool to see that and we still
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had a bunch of bunch of recruits
on the sidelines.
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You got a preferred walk-on,
commit, close out the weekend.
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So I mean, there were some
positives in terms of long-term,
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to kind of take away from
everything.
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But again, it's hard to hard to
feel that when you're in the,
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when you're in, we're in the
thick of things that's very
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true.
So let's flip it, Brian.
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Because normally, we'd still be
talking more data points, plays
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and all that stuff.
But we were going to sit here
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and let's talk.
Talk about what we want to see
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the last 3 weeks.
And what we want to see.
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Now, the one thing That I
listened to the presser today
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on.
Good evening Levar.
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As always, we appreciate you
joining us.
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I listened literally to so many
interviews on time and a half
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now and every podcast is on at
least time in a quarter.
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Yeah that got to get it in there
but a thing that brings prai
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mentioned and I want to ask you
is this something you guys did
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potentially back. 20 years ago
was he's been mentioning.
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They've been doing developmental
scrimmages about 20 plays every
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Sunday have guys who are not
playing at all.
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What are your thoughts on that
and is that something you seen
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in the past?
We didn't see that a lot at hand
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instead me, so that's something
kind of new in my realm but it
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kind of makes sense for two
reasons.
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00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:18,700
Number one, you look at the
overall Talent on this roster,
445
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,300
add to that.
Some of the, the veteran
446
00:28:21,300 --> 00:28:24,600
leadership that is departing
this roster at the end of the
447
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,700
season.
So when you look at that, we're
448
00:28:27,700 --> 00:28:31,500
going to need as many young guys
are stepping Of this year we're
449
00:28:31,500 --> 00:28:34,100
going to need just as many
stepping up next year.
450
00:28:34,500 --> 00:28:39,200
Absolutely.
And some of these guys are
451
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,700
full-on coach pry guys.
And some of these guys are still
452
00:28:43,500 --> 00:28:46,000
still learning the ropes and
still guys that were recruited
453
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,500
by Justin Fuente.
So I think some of that is, hey,
454
00:28:49,500 --> 00:28:51,900
we're going to need you next
year.
455
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,600
I think some of this is a way to
get guys acclimated and say, hey
456
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,800
you're going to be a part of
what we're doing next year.
457
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,200
Try to deter some of the The
portal jumpers and things like
458
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,000
that, as we kind of close out
the year.
459
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:05,700
Got it?
Alright, sounds good.
460
00:29:05,700 --> 00:29:08,100
Well, let's, let's jump in.
Let's talk next week.
461
00:29:08,100 --> 00:29:11,100
What we want to see on offense
and it's quarterback.
462
00:29:11,100 --> 00:29:13,500
I just do this for on because I
don't know what the hell we
463
00:29:13,500 --> 00:29:15,000
should do.
What do you think?
464
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:23,700
I think I think you're at a
Crossroads because I think we've
465
00:29:23,700 --> 00:29:26,700
seen we know what we're getting
from Wells.
466
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,000
And I think a lot of this
depends on where the coaches are
467
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:35,100
in the process.
If the coaches think that Wells
468
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:40,500
is going to need to be one way
or the other kind of the answer
469
00:29:40,500 --> 00:29:45,300
the next two years.
God help us, but at the same
470
00:29:45,300 --> 00:29:48,600
time that You don't, you don't
pull a guy if he, if he's gonna
471
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,100
be your guy.
The next two years.
472
00:29:50,100 --> 00:29:55,400
Now, if you're out, or if you
want a full Lon, you know,
473
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,800
whether you bring in a transfer,
whether you work with some of
474
00:29:57,808 --> 00:30:00,400
the young guys, if you're gonna
have a full-on open competition
475
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,500
again, next year, then it's time
to play somebody else.
476
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:08,300
The only threat of that is that
if you know, if the team
477
00:30:08,300 --> 00:30:13,700
perceives Wells as the best
opportunity to win games, does
478
00:30:13,700 --> 00:30:15,800
that lose your locker room in
the short term?
479
00:30:15,900 --> 00:30:18,900
I'm with the coach saying, hey,
we're building for the Future
480
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,200
these last three games of these
last three games.
481
00:30:22,100 --> 00:30:25,700
So, does you know?
And that's kind of what I think
482
00:30:25,700 --> 00:30:30,500
a coach has to weigh when you
start throwing in young guys,
483
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,700
just for the Reps or just to see
what you got.
484
00:30:34,700 --> 00:30:37,000
I think that that's the risk
that you run is that you might
485
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,500
lose the locker room especially
for some of the veterans or some
486
00:30:40,500 --> 00:30:42,900
of the guys that are, you know,
that's still have some
487
00:30:42,900 --> 00:30:46,900
eligibility left but you know
are a little Higher up in terms
488
00:30:46,900 --> 00:30:49,300
of their time but in Blacksburg.
Yeah.
489
00:30:49,300 --> 00:30:52,100
I mean in private Mansion like
you want to, you want to respect
490
00:30:52,100 --> 00:30:55,100
your seniors, but you also kind
of know you've got to let some
491
00:30:55,100 --> 00:30:58,100
of these young guys.
See the field feel that live
492
00:30:58,100 --> 00:31:02,000
game action and as far as
quarterback, you know, if you
493
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,400
say he's the guy the next two
years then, okay.
494
00:31:04,700 --> 00:31:10,100
You bet they're going to have to
nail At least two starting
495
00:31:10,100 --> 00:31:13,200
offensive lineman, you're going
to have to starting offensive
496
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,400
lineman, you're gonna have to
eat, at least, at least one wide
497
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,600
receiver, three three, you've
got to get to proving got
498
00:31:20,700 --> 00:31:21,600
running back.
It's fine.
499
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,000
It's just, you got to find a way
to keep Malachi and actually,
500
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,300
let's flip to that running back
room.
501
00:31:27,500 --> 00:31:29,000
Malachi's doubtful again this
week.
502
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,000
I think, right now, if you're
Brent Pioneer that stabbed you
503
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,500
just looking at all the kind say
you're clearly injured again.
504
00:31:35,700 --> 00:31:40,100
We're shutting you down.
Going into more of a slow rehab
505
00:31:40,100 --> 00:31:41,600
to get.
You ready for winter?
506
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,800
Workouts in Spring ball next
year, at this point.
507
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,800
You playing doesn't doesn't help
us nothing, it doesn't help him,
508
00:31:50,100 --> 00:31:53,100
it doesn't then help him does it
honestly help Malachi Thomas
509
00:31:53,100 --> 00:31:57,200
coming off of an injury.
And showing what's up cap?
510
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,800
He showed me back.
Please chao-li back potential,
511
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:01,400
he's going to be the lead back
next year.
512
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,800
So yes.
Well, and we need to get up.
513
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:08,000
He's got another, it's offseason
in this strength and
514
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:12,400
conditioning program, go into
spring, and fall fully healthy,
515
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:17,300
and be ready to contribute.
Yeah, and the other thing is, as
516
00:32:17,300 --> 00:32:21,500
far as he goes, he's already
shown that with a significant
517
00:32:21,500 --> 00:32:25,400
injury, he can bounce back in
immediately, be ready to play.
518
00:32:26,700 --> 00:32:29,600
When he stepped on that foot,
that field after he had been out
519
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,000
with the with the leg injury, he
immediately showed he could
520
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,000
play.
So I think we know you can do
521
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,300
this.
Let's be smart about it.
522
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,600
So I do think the next couple
weeks, even though, I think he
523
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,100
got Banger, the end of the game
you're looking at King as your
524
00:32:44,100 --> 00:32:47,500
lead back.
And obviously, do can black have
525
00:32:47,500 --> 00:32:49,600
been getting their chances?
Continue to give them their
526
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,200
chances.
They have been playing special
527
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,600
teams and I think maybe, you
know you just somebody like
528
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:59,800
Kenji Christian Some potential
run during the game because he's
529
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:04,300
already redshirted yeah he
hasn't he hasn't played any of
530
00:33:04,300 --> 00:33:07,500
this year.
It's one of those maybe you
531
00:33:07,500 --> 00:33:13,300
carve out a series you say if we
get to this score you're in I
532
00:33:13,300 --> 00:33:15,200
don't know.
I just I think again I want to
533
00:33:15,208 --> 00:33:17,700
see guys what they do on the
field.
534
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,100
Kind of like we've seen Bryce
Juke.
535
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,800
We've seen Bryce to be decisive
and his runs.
536
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,300
We've seen him be able to catch
passes in assistant special
537
00:33:25,300 --> 00:33:28,000
teams.
We don't know his ceiling.
538
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,500
But right now, I think me and
you can comfortably say with
539
00:33:30,500 --> 00:33:36,800
Bryce Duke He has he has a what
do I don't call it.
540
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,000
He has a contributor potential
next.
541
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,700
Yeah.
Sandwiches.
542
00:33:41,700 --> 00:33:44,500
Black chance black shown that he
can help him special teams.
543
00:33:44,500 --> 00:33:48,200
I think he's learning his way
around as a running back, but
544
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,500
again, contributor in some way,
we don't know Christian, if he
545
00:33:51,500 --> 00:33:55,300
is where he is yet and I think
that's what I would like to find
546
00:33:55,300 --> 00:33:58,600
out about it.
Yeah, I'm with you, especially
547
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,800
on Duke.
I think we need to get him as
548
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,100
much of a role.
The next three games as we can,
549
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,699
what black does whether it's
heavier or lighter than what
550
00:34:10,699 --> 00:34:15,000
he's been doing, the whole year
kind of it is what it is, he's
551
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,100
right.
You know, he's already had a
552
00:34:17,100 --> 00:34:21,800
redshirt year.
I think he's ready to you know
553
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:26,600
stay in that contributor role.
So Yeah, and when we look at
554
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,900
Christian, you know he's the one
that we don't really know a
555
00:34:29,908 --> 00:34:34,600
whole lot about know, you know,
he slid kind of up and down the
556
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:40,199
depth chart in Spring and fall.
So I don't really know what to
557
00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:45,000
make of what his role will be
with this team going into the
558
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,199
off season, if you can get him
some time to where he where he
559
00:34:48,199 --> 00:34:50,500
can maybe show out.
Then maybe at least will kind of
560
00:34:50,500 --> 00:34:53,699
know where he stands there.
All right.
561
00:34:55,300 --> 00:34:57,600
What do you think about the wide
receiver tight in room?
562
00:34:59,900 --> 00:35:04,200
I mean, at this point outside of
Caleb, you might as well go full
563
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:08,400
youth movement, give me more
Gosnell.
564
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,900
Give me more Moss, give me more
Jones.
565
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,500
Let's see Holloway lineup at
wide out and we're going to go
566
00:35:15,500 --> 00:35:20,800
start arguments again because he
was already advised.
567
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,700
He's playing this week.
If he plays this week that's for
568
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:29,300
until you not get him, the last
two weeks, I am on the train of
569
00:35:29,300 --> 00:35:32,800
you trying at wide receiver just
to get in the Reps, just to see
570
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,900
it.
Well, I think he's shown obvious
571
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,900
special teams.
He's Dynamic, right?
572
00:35:40,900 --> 00:35:43,100
Upper upper echelon.
Special team.
573
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,600
Yeah.
He's Dynamic on special teams.
574
00:35:46,700 --> 00:35:50,700
And that's an area that we have
struggled mightily with all
575
00:35:50,700 --> 00:35:52,400
years.
So he immediately gives you a
576
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:58,200
boost in that area.
So I say let's get him some more
577
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,500
reps a whiteout.
See if he can give us a boost in
578
00:36:00,500 --> 00:36:05,000
those areas as well.
I say if that means burning the
579
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,300
red shirt, then burn the red
shirt by the burn, the red
580
00:36:08,300 --> 00:36:10,100
shirt.
Some people are saying don't
581
00:36:10,100 --> 00:36:13,700
burn the word shirt, we might
need him much later in his
582
00:36:13,700 --> 00:36:17,500
career.
My point is, if it's if it's
583
00:36:17,500 --> 00:36:24,000
year 5 of pressure, Holloway's
career and Brent prize tenure
584
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,200
and we need Tucker.
Holloway in order to have a
585
00:36:27,207 --> 00:36:31,100
competitive wide receiver room.
We've got bigger problems than a
586
00:36:31,100 --> 00:36:35,400
burnt red shirt.
All right, let's talk about
587
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,200
this.
I think the other guys, they've
588
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,600
already burned them, just let
them play.
589
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,900
Let Them rip, especially if
you're potentially saying, see,
590
00:36:43,900 --> 00:36:46,800
I think starting Wells.
You, he still could be in a
591
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,600
battle next year.
You're just saying, you want to
592
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,900
wrap them with guys who are here
and give you the best chance for
593
00:36:52,900 --> 00:36:55,800
those guys to succeed and
potentially not lose a locker
594
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,700
room.
Tight end room.
595
00:36:58,700 --> 00:37:01,200
I think Harrison st.
Germain was used very early.
596
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:05,700
We have not seen him since West
Virginia they're clearly
597
00:37:05,700 --> 00:37:09,600
redshirting him.
But what what what do you think
598
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,500
about?
I think I know where you're
599
00:37:11,500 --> 00:37:16,600
going to go with this but what
they can write as many reps as
600
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,400
possible.
As many snaps as possible.
601
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,900
All right.
So is he completely taken the
602
00:37:22,900 --> 00:37:26,800
Drake role?
I think he fully takes the Drake
603
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,400
role in whatever, hybrid roll.
We've got for Connor.
604
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,700
I think he occasionally, we'll
take some of the snaps that you
605
00:37:34,700 --> 00:37:36,700
would give to Gala you give it
to right.
606
00:37:37,100 --> 00:37:38,700
All right, because his Rush
church burned.
607
00:37:38,700 --> 00:37:41,700
It was his fifth game last week
against Georgia Tech where he
608
00:37:41,700 --> 00:37:46,800
got zero targets but he played
one target zero receptions.
609
00:37:46,900 --> 00:37:50,000
One target, excuse me.
I'm it was thrown it was he was
610
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,500
thrown it, he had double
coverage on him and he got a
611
00:37:52,500 --> 00:37:54,600
Target.
That was his only target, all
612
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,600
right.
So hit Brian's basically saying
613
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,800
get Daquan right?
Absolutely fully prepared for
614
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,400
his roles next year of doing
everything.
615
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,100
So got it.
Let's flip to the offensive
616
00:38:07,100 --> 00:38:10,400
line.
The big one that I had on here
617
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,500
that kind of got kibosh today
while I listened to the press
618
00:38:13,500 --> 00:38:15,000
conference.
That's unfortunate.
619
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,800
Was I was like, let's let
praising more out.
620
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,800
Snap Jesse Hansen, Brent pride
comes up.
621
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,200
Nope, they are preserving his
red shirt and Why do you think
622
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,600
that is?
I mean, he clearly offers in the
623
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,600
Run game, especially he offers a
hell of a lot more Hanson.
624
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,900
I know you said it.
You said it to me.
625
00:38:34,900 --> 00:38:37,600
You said it on here.
He's learning how to pass Pro.
626
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,400
But why?
But why hold it by, why not?
627
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:41,800
Just let him play and learn
more.
628
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:49,300
Because it I think if we need
any area for long-term depth its
629
00:38:49,300 --> 00:38:54,800
offensive line and if we think
we have a multi year starter and
630
00:38:54,800 --> 00:39:00,100
Braylon more, then I think that
that's that's the right move
631
00:39:00,100 --> 00:39:02,300
here, especially if in the short
term.
632
00:39:02,300 --> 00:39:06,200
He's not giving you a
significant boost over Jesse.
633
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:10,200
Obviously, he's not there are
areas where he is deficient or
634
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,800
we would see him in the game
full time right now.
635
00:39:13,700 --> 00:39:16,400
He wouldn't just be a guy that's
in there on certain packages or
636
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,900
certain series.
He'd be a full-time player right
637
00:39:18,900 --> 00:39:21,300
now.
So, there's obviously a reason
638
00:39:21,300 --> 00:39:25,300
that Jesse Hansen still in
there, give more another year of
639
00:39:25,300 --> 00:39:30,300
development.
I'm taking the opposite point of
640
00:39:30,300 --> 00:39:33,600
view here because there's not a
significant boost in that area.
641
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,600
Right.
At least in the short term that
642
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,800
I know in the short term yet.
I just to me I'm one that would
643
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:45,200
say I see him run block and he
is, he's an 85 and run block
644
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:49,000
Jesse's a 75.
He's like a 16 past Road Jesse's
645
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:53,500
a 75.
So it's they even out, but
646
00:39:54,100 --> 00:39:57,300
Jesse's you can just say,
Jesse's average.
647
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:03,800
In both where he significantly,
he's a D in the past for.
648
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,300
So I get what you're saying
there.
649
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:13,000
What about its Center?
I think we got to get Holly feel
650
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,400
in there at some point just to
see what we have, whether that's
651
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:23,200
in It's hard right now because
you still want to try to win
652
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:28,200
games, there's no, there's no,
there's no honor and just
653
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,300
getting guys in there to get
guys in there, you're still
654
00:40:30,300 --> 00:40:34,700
trying to win the game, so you
can only do but so much when it
655
00:40:34,700 --> 00:40:39,500
comes to Center because that is
kind of the the brain of the
656
00:40:39,500 --> 00:40:44,700
ovens of wine.
So, that's probably the one
657
00:40:44,700 --> 00:40:48,200
position.
Not only just because I have no
658
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:54,500
idea what I have in jacked but
also because I know it least
659
00:40:55,300 --> 00:40:58,300
bottom line when I'm going to
get out of Johnny every game.
660
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:03,200
It's a little bit harder but I'd
like to see them get at least a
661
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,100
maybe a handful of series for
him in the next three games.
662
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,000
Well, since the thing, I'm more
worried about than anything is
663
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,900
the next year and Johnny joins.
Not coming back.
664
00:41:12,100 --> 00:41:15,600
He's fully exhausted everything.
And you're going in with your
665
00:41:15,900 --> 00:41:17,500
somebody just scored a touchdown
behind me.
666
00:41:17,500 --> 00:41:19,700
I don't know who he did
something that up.
667
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,600
Nice run there, that John, he's
not coming back next year.
668
00:41:23,700 --> 00:41:28,700
And right now, your 3 potential
centers are Jack hollifield, who
669
00:41:28,700 --> 00:41:33,500
will be a red Sophomore.
Hunter who will be a redshirt
670
00:41:33,500 --> 00:41:36,100
freshman or Johnny.
Dixon will be a redshirt
671
00:41:36,100 --> 00:41:38,900
freshman.
To me.
672
00:41:38,900 --> 00:41:41,100
It's you talking about a handful
of Series.
673
00:41:41,700 --> 00:41:45,400
Yeah, I think I would say I'd be
comfortable because Jack's
674
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,400
already burned his Redshirt.
He's at least been playing a ton
675
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:52,200
on special teams so he's at
least seeing game action.
676
00:41:52,900 --> 00:41:59,200
But I'd say to, I would like to
say 12 series by the end of the
677
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:04,000
season, just because if he
struggles out there, snapping
678
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,700
the ball or like, okay, do we
need to go portal shopping?
679
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,600
Why we get Jack acclimated next
year?
680
00:42:11,100 --> 00:42:13,200
I think we're going portal
shopping for a center
681
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,000
regardless.
I think your point might be
682
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,300
moot, obviously, we still got a
land that Center.
683
00:42:18,900 --> 00:42:22,800
Yes.
But, you know, that's kind of my
684
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,300
thought there but yeah, it'd be
good to know at least when she
685
00:42:26,300 --> 00:42:30,100
have to a point.
I just don't know.
686
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:36,100
I don't foresee us being out of
any of these remaining games.
687
00:42:36,100 --> 00:42:39,100
Even though I think we
potentially We could lose all
688
00:42:39,100 --> 00:42:41,100
three of them, we could
potentially win all three of
689
00:42:41,100 --> 00:42:46,200
them but I don't see us being
blown out in any of these games.
690
00:42:46,700 --> 00:42:49,700
I got you.
I got you guys so I don't, I
691
00:42:49,700 --> 00:42:51,900
don't know if you'll have an
opportunity where you feel
692
00:42:51,900 --> 00:42:56,700
comfortable as an offense
saying, hey let's just throw red
693
00:42:56,700 --> 00:43:01,800
shirt freshman and it's a center
Center and see and see what we
694
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,500
got here.
Especially that down down, three
695
00:43:05,500 --> 00:43:08,100
in the fourth quarter.
True true.
696
00:43:08,300 --> 00:43:09,400
True true.
All right.
697
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:13,500
So what about kind of the rest
of the young guys?
698
00:43:13,500 --> 00:43:19,600
You know, I mentioned Dixon and
McClain Meadows, chaplain, do
699
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:23,100
you think they all get?
Is that a little easier than
700
00:43:23,100 --> 00:43:27,900
Center to give them some run?
It's easier because number one,
701
00:43:27,900 --> 00:43:32,000
I think we've seen other areas,
struggle more.
702
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:37,300
And I think we kind of know what
we can get from these other guys
703
00:43:37,300 --> 00:43:40,300
a little bit more at this. we
see Meadows in a game already
704
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:46,000
gamer to actually I think we've
seen some of the other guys I'd
705
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:52,300
like to see Chaplin because I
feel like Chaplin Could you give
706
00:43:52,300 --> 00:43:55,900
us a little something there?
You know, we saw Parker slide
707
00:43:55,900 --> 00:44:01,000
over to left tackle, some this
past week, whether chaplain
708
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:04,300
Works in it, left or right and
Parker slides over just to give
709
00:44:04,300 --> 00:44:06,100
a different look there.
I don't know.
710
00:44:06,100 --> 00:44:10,600
I know it sounds suicidal moving
a struggling, tackle over to
711
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:14,300
left instead of right but we
haven't been able to hide him
712
00:44:14,300 --> 00:44:15,800
it, right?
We might as well see what he can
713
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:16,800
do.
It left.
714
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:18,800
At least she can put somebody on
left.
715
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,700
Right?
I mean, You know, something to
716
00:44:21,700 --> 00:44:23,300
be done there.
All right.
717
00:44:23,300 --> 00:44:25,800
Let's flip over to defense,
Braun, and let's start out in
718
00:44:25,808 --> 00:44:28,800
the secondary because it has
been one of the brighter spots
719
00:44:29,700 --> 00:44:32,600
with strong out.
Again, I think strong is getting
720
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,600
a red shirt.
I think they've already had the
721
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:40,300
conversation with them and I
think it's one of those again so
722
00:44:40,300 --> 00:44:43,600
much of what's going on.
And who are seeing is, you know,
723
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:47,400
Braylon more can play to a level
that we know Dorian strong in,
724
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,400
Malachi can play the levels and
Dorian in this case a A lot
725
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,600
stronger.
It's almost just like, dude, get
726
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:56,900
healthy you going out here.
Does nothing for you in the long
727
00:44:56,900 --> 00:44:59,100
run?
Yep, in the long run.
728
00:44:59,100 --> 00:45:02,000
It does nothing for you.
You're going to be a redshirt
729
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,400
Junior next year.
It'll be your fourth year if you
730
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,900
have a breakout year, you lose
nothing, you move on.
731
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:12,700
If you have a great year, Yeah,
I mean I'm right there with you
732
00:45:12,700 --> 00:45:17,300
definitely Redshirt him.
I think we've looked at cam
733
00:45:17,300 --> 00:45:19,900
Johnson.
Now he's gotten in 42 games,
734
00:45:20,300 --> 00:45:24,700
pick another to that he can get
some run when he's healthy last
735
00:45:24,700 --> 00:45:26,400
two.
I think you've given this week
736
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,600
to get fully healed.
Yeah, I'm with that.
737
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,000
So and then you get Devin Alvis
in there.
738
00:45:33,700 --> 00:45:35,800
He's been mentioned.
Give him some run.
739
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,300
You know.
You got these guys that are
740
00:45:38,700 --> 00:45:41,700
showing they could contribute
early You give them the
741
00:45:41,700 --> 00:45:44,900
opportunity to contribute early
and when we flip over the
742
00:45:44,900 --> 00:45:49,000
linebackers, I mean, Tisdale
still has a covid year.
743
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:50,700
Does he decide to come back next
year?
744
00:45:50,700 --> 00:45:53,000
I hope so.
I think that's kind of where
745
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:58,500
we're looking at, because he's
shown that probably of everybody
746
00:45:58,500 --> 00:46:01,000
that's currently on the roster,
the best ability.
747
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:05,200
It will yes 100%.
And obviously, it took half a
748
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,400
season to get there between
everything.
749
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,300
He was dealing with with
eligibility thing.
750
00:46:09,300 --> 00:46:14,000
So, You know you hate to see
that because that that's
751
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,700
probably the area on defense
that we struggled to find
752
00:46:17,100 --> 00:46:21,500
consistency throughout the first
half of the Season 100% And we
753
00:46:21,500 --> 00:46:24,000
were basing.
Imagine but between young guys
754
00:46:24,100 --> 00:46:27,000
you know.
Yeah guys that have been on the
755
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:28,800
roster to hadn't seen a dog
time.
756
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,500
Things like that.
So we finally got some
757
00:46:30,500 --> 00:46:32,300
consistency once Tisdale was
back.
758
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:36,800
Yep, let me ask this because I
think Tisdale comes back.
759
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:38,900
Any chance Tisdale moves to
Mike.
760
00:46:42,100 --> 00:46:46,800
I don't think so.
All right I asked you because I
761
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:51,800
think it definitely moves to
Mike.
762
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,600
Okay.
Okay, alright so I was going to
763
00:46:54,607 --> 00:46:58,100
say in here but Johnson and
Keller and McDonald all get some
764
00:46:58,100 --> 00:47:00,100
run to.
So obviously if that's your
765
00:47:00,100 --> 00:47:03,200
feel, I still think you give
them some run, just to give them
766
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,400
or PT.
But what do we do about it?
767
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:09,000
Saying we've seen all three,
guys.
768
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:13,300
All three guys.
Can can play it.
769
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:20,300
They have various attributes.
They bring to the position.
770
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,500
I mean, do you try to leverage
them somewhere else?
771
00:47:23,500 --> 00:47:26,100
Or is it?
Or is it going to be one of
772
00:47:26,107 --> 00:47:30,300
those things?
Somebody you hate to say it but
773
00:47:30,300 --> 00:47:34,100
is there going to be maybe a
conversation where somebody is
774
00:47:34,100 --> 00:47:35,700
out the door?
Come December?
775
00:47:35,700 --> 00:47:42,100
Because You know, eventually to
me they've all been good similar
776
00:47:42,100 --> 00:47:49,700
reps and, you know, even axis,
I'll save this if that's what if
777
00:47:49,700 --> 00:47:52,000
not next year.
Definitely by the year after
778
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:58,900
that, that is lost in this job.
Yeah, so we'll say that and
779
00:47:58,900 --> 00:48:02,100
obviously Jenkins has shown, he
can play it at a high level as
780
00:48:02,100 --> 00:48:05,000
well.
Walker has shown depending on
781
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,900
matchups.
He does pretty good as well.
782
00:48:09,100 --> 00:48:14,500
So, you know, right now if
there's an odd man out, I'd say
783
00:48:14,500 --> 00:48:17,700
it's probably Walker because I
think Jenkins can hold it down
784
00:48:17,700 --> 00:48:20,600
until Lawson's ready to take it
over full-time.
785
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:28,400
Ok, I'm filming, let's flip next
last before we close this out
786
00:48:28,900 --> 00:48:32,600
and then go to one other piece
defensive line.
787
00:48:32,900 --> 00:48:36,500
It's really tough because a lot
of the younger guys are already
788
00:48:36,500 --> 00:48:39,100
playing.
Likely everybody.
789
00:48:39,100 --> 00:48:46,000
But garment returns, And I think
the bigger piece is if
790
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,900
everybody's back but Garbutt
there's really not really much
791
00:48:49,900 --> 00:48:52,200
snaps to go around.
You're going to let Garbutt
792
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,500
play.
I think just because garbage the
793
00:48:55,500 --> 00:48:59,700
best player we have on the line
but I guess I love my be, you're
794
00:48:59,700 --> 00:49:02,100
gonna get him.
The amount of snaps he needs to
795
00:49:02,100 --> 00:49:04,400
get whatever.
He can go, he's gonna go but
796
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,100
there's no.
But I look at the defensive line
797
00:49:07,100 --> 00:49:09,800
throughout the year and you can
you can tell me your opinion.
798
00:49:10,500 --> 00:49:14,200
There has not been any absolute
with the The West Virginia where
799
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:18,300
we got pushed around.
There's not been like atrocious
800
00:49:18,300 --> 00:49:22,700
line play at times.
It's been really good in most
801
00:49:22,700 --> 00:49:24,400
times.
It's been averaging slightly
802
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:28,500
above where you're like they're
developing you know, we Mario
803
00:49:28,500 --> 00:49:31,500
Kendricks has had has come on
strong lately, Benes.
804
00:49:31,500 --> 00:49:34,500
Continue to develop.
You know we've seen Nelson and
805
00:49:34,500 --> 00:49:38,500
McRae have moments like that's
the way I'm not getting.
806
00:49:38,500 --> 00:49:41,400
The only thing I'll say is that
we haven't the only thing I'll
807
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:45,400
say is we haven't had A lot of
success getting consistent
808
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,700
pressure with just four.
That's true.
809
00:49:47,700 --> 00:49:51,400
That, that would be my only big
critique of the unit, I think
810
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:55,000
overall, especially in the Run
game, they've held up pretty
811
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,900
well.
Night.
812
00:49:58,500 --> 00:50:01,900
Let's flip now and just talk
about some offseason moves.
813
00:50:01,900 --> 00:50:04,600
We'd like to see.
I think the first is obvious
814
00:50:06,100 --> 00:50:08,700
We've put a number on here of at
least a minimum of eight.
815
00:50:08,700 --> 00:50:12,100
Now, I still think the 12 to 15
that we've mentioned a couple
816
00:50:12,100 --> 00:50:14,900
times.
Should be it, but a minimum of
817
00:50:14,900 --> 00:50:20,200
eight to start backfilling.
If not more in the portal, I'd
818
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:21,800
like to see us hit at least,
double digits.
819
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,200
But 8 is the absolute minimum
that I feel yet.
820
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,300
Less than eight it.
I think me and you if we're less
821
00:50:27,300 --> 00:50:29,400
than eight.
I'm worried about next year.
822
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,300
Significantly worry.
And when we say worry, we're not
823
00:50:32,300 --> 00:50:35,300
talking scrapping to get six and
six.
824
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:40,200
Rapping to get three or four.
All right, let me ask this.
825
00:50:42,900 --> 00:50:45,600
And this kind of goes on for the
end of this year, too.
826
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:52,400
The last three games, should
Brent Pride, go ahead and give
827
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:56,500
the reins of the defense to
Chris Marv to start that better
828
00:50:56,500 --> 00:50:59,800
focus on the head coach.
The last three games because you
829
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:04,000
have your opportunities right
now and it doesn't me, it
830
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:08,300
doesn't matter, except for the
development of Chris Moore.
831
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,000
I think this goes back to the
locker room discussion, right?
832
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:15,400
So okay.
Yeah.
833
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,600
Are we essentially depends on if
you're treating these next three
834
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,700
games, as we're trying to win
these games, or if you treat
835
00:51:24,700 --> 00:51:27,500
these next three games as
developmental games, and if
836
00:51:27,500 --> 00:51:30,500
you're treating them as
developmental games, have you
837
00:51:30,500 --> 00:51:33,500
had the right type of
conversations with your players
838
00:51:33,500 --> 00:51:35,600
where they're on board with
that?
839
00:51:36,500 --> 00:51:40,300
That's going to matter because
it's again, I know guys that are
840
00:51:40,300 --> 00:51:43,800
seniors are guys that, you know,
are moving on, you don't really
841
00:51:44,100 --> 00:51:47,500
you want to honor them at the
same time, but, you know, this
842
00:51:47,500 --> 00:51:51,800
is their Last Ride.
What you don't want to do is
843
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:57,400
lose guys that are the Juniors
and sophomores on this team and
844
00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,700
send a message to them that
you're not doing.
845
00:51:59,900 --> 00:52:01,500
I got things.
You feel like you need to do to
846
00:52:01,500 --> 00:52:04,000
imagine that you're looking to
Too Much forward.
847
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,400
Well then let me ask this.
Do you bring somebody price of
848
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:12,400
me with like Bob Shoop and
almost have him as a second or
849
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,600
Mentor?
I know buds in the building but
850
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,300
buds.
Okay, he's there sometimes but
851
00:52:18,300 --> 00:52:20,200
obviously he's got a role as a
damn fast.
852
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,000
Which is a little different,
he's not there, just grinding
853
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,300
film away.
All hours of the night.
854
00:52:25,500 --> 00:52:27,300
Yeah, he's not an analyst.
Yeah.
855
00:52:27,300 --> 00:52:30,400
Do you bring somebody like Bob
Shoop and who work with Brent,
856
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:34,500
fry, who coach, Chris, Marv to
sort of be that Mentor
857
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:38,300
constantly with him next year
and then the same thing and I
858
00:52:38,300 --> 00:52:41,200
think that my favorite Bolin, I
think that'd be a great movie.
859
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:46,500
I think he definitely, you
definitely bring in a seasoned
860
00:52:46,500 --> 00:52:51,000
veteran analyst for Marv.
Next year regardless, You bring
861
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:56,100
in a seasoned veteran analyst
for Boeing next year regardless
862
00:52:56,500 --> 00:53:05,300
Ralph region his coach and say
what you want to say, one of the
863
00:53:05,300 --> 00:53:08,000
best offensive coaches in
college football the last 30
864
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,600
years with the talent that He
had and how he was able to make
865
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:16,300
them produce.
I need the 75 he helped
866
00:53:16,300 --> 00:53:21,800
Trucker's last year.
I mean, I think we're going to
867
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:23,700
need.
I think the biggest thing we're
868
00:53:23,700 --> 00:53:26,700
just leading to in this
conversation is there's going to
869
00:53:26,707 --> 00:53:29,600
be some special assistance.
Specifically.
870
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:33,800
Next year, could it be for each
of the young guys on that could
871
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:38,300
Brent price actually bring
himself someone, a known head
872
00:53:38,300 --> 00:53:42,900
coach in to be with him and I
sit here and I look at Texas.
873
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:45,900
And they get Gary Patterson.
All sideline.
874
00:53:46,500 --> 00:53:48,700
I don't know if Gary wants to
get back in the game or not,
875
00:53:48,700 --> 00:53:50,500
because I feel like a lot of
these guys who are football.
876
00:53:50,500 --> 00:53:53,500
Junkies those analysts roles.
They just love rice.
877
00:53:53,500 --> 00:53:56,000
Like, I don't have to worry
about the media.
878
00:53:56,700 --> 00:53:59,100
I don't have to really worry
about the players or recruiting,
879
00:53:59,100 --> 00:54:01,900
you don't I get to do.
I get to break down film?
880
00:54:01,900 --> 00:54:04,200
I get to scheme.
Yeah.
881
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:09,900
Is that something in a guy like
Patterson who was very big in
882
00:54:09,900 --> 00:54:15,700
still had a hand in his defense?
As every year went on, you know,
883
00:54:15,700 --> 00:54:18,700
is it one of these things of how
you control that it's it's going
884
00:54:18,700 --> 00:54:21,900
to be interesting.
I think what scares us more is
885
00:54:21,900 --> 00:54:26,600
if come March maybe not more
summertime.
886
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,300
There's not any of these roles
and we're just rolling at it
887
00:54:29,300 --> 00:54:34,200
again, especially after going.
You know, not going to a bowl.
888
00:54:35,500 --> 00:54:38,500
All right, Braun, lets roll over
some other Hokies news in
889
00:54:38,500 --> 00:54:40,400
college football, notes
basketball.
890
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:44,200
Season has begun.
And last night both okey, men's
891
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:47,300
and women's hoop tipped off at
Castle.
892
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:54,100
Hokies Men, played Delaware
State and then easy 95 57 win
893
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,500
Grant Basile led the way with
good games from Padula Maddox.
894
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:00,900
Be dead honest with you.
Brian didn't watch a minute,
895
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:02,900
followed it.
And it didn't take long to the
896
00:55:02,900 --> 00:55:05,400
team to get him like 20.
And it was just like, yeah, this
897
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:09,700
is over with the Bedouins.
That was a, that was a whipping
898
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:15,400
and it was Good to see them.
Be that crisp out the gate.
899
00:55:15,900 --> 00:55:16,800
Yeah.
Regardless of.
900
00:55:17,900 --> 00:55:20,200
Yeah.
Regardless of competition, you
901
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:23,500
know, I think with and I think
we kind of knew it coming into
902
00:55:23,500 --> 00:55:25,600
this year.
I think we're going to maybe
903
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:29,800
take a small step back over all
defensively, but this is a much
904
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:33,600
more potent offensive team.
No.
905
00:55:34,500 --> 00:55:36,400
So, we'll see.
I know they've got more games
906
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:40,100
this week, and it's kind of that
balance try to watch some
907
00:55:40,100 --> 00:55:43,100
trying, not to watch some talk
about with Chips as well who are
908
00:55:43,100 --> 00:55:47,300
ranked 13th in the country.
Absolutely blows the doors off
909
00:55:47,300 --> 00:55:51,700
Mount Saint Mary's, 10 145.
I looked at that in the first
910
00:55:51,700 --> 00:55:54,700
quarter and it was 4:37 at the
end of the first in the same
911
00:55:54,700 --> 00:55:57,300
thing and went through my head,
well, that games over.
912
00:55:58,500 --> 00:56:02,900
But a great showing, you know,
by both teams last night to get
913
00:56:02,900 --> 00:56:08,300
the to get the season started,
obviously some bigger games in
914
00:56:08,300 --> 00:56:11,200
the subsequent weeks and which
will be kind of keeping an eye
915
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:12,600
on a little bit closer.
Sir.
916
00:56:12,900 --> 00:56:16,700
Yep.
Also in News women's soccer
917
00:56:16,700 --> 00:56:19,100
makes the tournament.
They'll be playing West Virginia
918
00:56:19,100 --> 00:56:22,600
who's a national number seven
seed this weekend.
919
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:26,500
So again, good things there,
obviously, they pulled that
920
00:56:26,500 --> 00:56:32,000
upset of UVA earlier this year.
So again, Good for them.
921
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:36,200
Good for the program, is just
building more and more Big Stuff
922
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:39,600
happening in the fall for that
soccer team.
923
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,700
So that's been big.
And now that we have basketball
924
00:56:42,700 --> 00:56:46,400
back is just going to be even
more fun stuff to watch day in
925
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,100
day out at throughout the week.
Absolutely.
926
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:50,300
All right, let's flip it real
quick.
927
00:56:50,300 --> 00:56:52,700
For you had to break here
college football, playoff
928
00:56:52,700 --> 00:56:56,400
rankings are released again
tonight your top four or
929
00:56:56,400 --> 00:57:02,600
Georgia, Ohio State Michigan TCU
makes a big Into the top four
930
00:57:03,100 --> 00:57:08,600
Tennessee five organ six and LSU
as a to Lost team jumps, all the
931
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:12,500
way up to seven.
How you feeling about this, thus
932
00:57:12,500 --> 00:57:16,700
far behind, we talked yesterday.
I, this is exactly what I
933
00:57:16,700 --> 00:57:18,700
thought was.
Kind of going to happen, more or
934
00:57:18,700 --> 00:57:21,200
less.
I said LSU could potentially go
935
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:27,200
as high as six there at 7:00.
I didn't think Tennessee was
936
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,000
going to fall any further than
60.
937
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:30,800
That 16 was kind of my buffer
there.
938
00:57:30,900 --> 00:57:37,000
R TC you jumping big big?
Yeah they were yeah that that
939
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,800
that's probably the most
surprising but it doesn't
940
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:43,100
necessarily shocked me.
Nah, they're not enough but
941
00:57:43,100 --> 00:57:44,700
they're putting together a good
resume.
942
00:57:44,700 --> 00:57:49,700
So I mean he doesn't Shock Me
and You Know mission is kind of
943
00:57:49,700 --> 00:57:52,900
the that's all going to come
down to what happens when they
944
00:57:52,900 --> 00:57:54,500
play State.
Yeah.
945
00:57:54,500 --> 00:57:58,200
Thanksgiving one of the, that's
an elimination game and is an
946
00:57:58,207 --> 00:58:01,300
elimination game and it's also
one of Reasons.
947
00:58:01,300 --> 00:58:03,900
I think in the very near future
the big Ten's going to scrub
948
00:58:03,900 --> 00:58:08,200
divisions just like everybody
else's because there's no like
949
00:58:08,500 --> 00:58:11,800
because if you have that game
and they're both ones 12 and one
950
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:14,000
and then the other start to know
and they're playing ten and
951
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:17,700
three across conference, like no
rematch this next week in ND.
952
00:58:18,300 --> 00:58:21,200
Well, as bad as the coastal is
the bit, the Big Ten West might
953
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:26,700
be worse this year.
Not a lie, not a lot by the way.
954
00:58:27,700 --> 00:58:31,600
Did you watch the end of the LSU
Alabama game?
955
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:36,800
Yes I did.
I'm not the biggest Brian, Kelly
956
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:40,900
fan but Dallas balls that was
absolute ball because he just
957
00:58:40,900 --> 00:58:45,700
basically said ask this, is it?
Yeah, the game's going to end
958
00:58:45,700 --> 00:58:48,400
right here on one play and I
love that.
959
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:52,400
Even though I mean he said we're
not doing this again.
960
00:58:52,700 --> 00:58:54,800
Let's go ahead.
We're going, we're going in this
961
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:58,700
thing and they and they knock
off Alabama, who some pundits
962
00:58:58,700 --> 00:59:02,800
are still, you know, they have a
chance to get in We're lost two
963
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,300
games, can we?
That's why I don't like LSU it
964
00:59:05,300 --> 00:59:08,000
to they've been proven.
They can be twice and LSU is
965
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,100
lost two times on essentially
their home field.
966
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:18,600
That's one was the neutral site
for Baton Rouge.
967
00:59:18,900 --> 00:59:27,200
Absolutely not.
All right, Brian, before we get
968
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:31,300
into Know The Enemy Duke, we are
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Now back to the episode.
978
00:59:56,100 --> 01:00:00,000
All right Brian let's get into
Know The Enemy and with the Duke
979
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,300
Blue Devils who come in at 6 and
3 under Mike Elko.
980
01:00:04,100 --> 01:00:05,800
Let's talk about the
quarterback.
981
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:10,300
Let's talk about Riley Leonard,
who is a composite 3 star coming
982
01:00:10,300 --> 01:00:12,800
out of fair.
Hope Alabama, in the class of
983
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:16,800
2021.
Decent offer list had some
984
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:18,700
interest from Nebraska and Ole
Miss anytime.
985
01:00:18,700 --> 01:00:20,300
I see Ole Miss with a
quarterback.
986
01:00:20,300 --> 01:00:23,400
It immediately makes me hurt my
ears because some odd reason
987
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:27,100
Lane kiffin knows what to do
with quarterbacks and so far
988
01:00:27,100 --> 01:00:30,000
this season, you know, he's had
a really great season.
989
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:33,700
Let's just be honest with it,
you know, over 1,800 yards,
990
01:00:33,700 --> 01:00:39,900
passing 11 touchdown, just four
interceptions, white at 64
991
01:00:39,900 --> 01:00:43,100
percent completion.
But the, the crazy part and
992
01:00:43,107 --> 01:00:47,000
you're going to mention here in
just a Get over 500 yards,
993
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:50,700
rushing averaging over six of
carry nine, touchdowns on the
994
01:00:50,700 --> 01:00:52,800
ground.
What are you seeing not only
995
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:57,500
from his passing but from his
legs, Yeah, we'll start with the
996
01:00:57,500 --> 01:01:00,200
first one.
He's got great timing with his
997
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:03,200
receivers, which is kind of what
has helped them throughout the
998
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:06,100
season.
He's not afraid to throw into
999
01:01:06,100 --> 01:01:09,500
Tight Windows but he does.
Those are calculated risk.
1000
01:01:09,500 --> 01:01:13,300
They're not bad balls or
dangerous balls but they are
1001
01:01:13,300 --> 01:01:17,300
definitely Tight Windows.
His accuracy is above average
1002
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:19,600
but his footwork.
When the passing game will
1003
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:21,900
occasionally, let him down, get
into trouble, where he's making
1004
01:01:21,900 --> 01:01:25,200
some bad throughs or get some
bad balls in there.
1005
01:01:26,500 --> 01:01:28,900
He feels the rush.
Pretty well, gets the ball down
1006
01:01:28,900 --> 01:01:33,000
quickly to a check at check down
or one of the quick routes in
1007
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:37,300
the set there.
But to me, his biggest threat,
1008
01:01:37,300 --> 01:01:41,900
is the ability to rush threat.
To take off both Endzone.
1009
01:01:41,900 --> 01:01:48,800
Regain scramble, drill all that
had a big run against BC where
1010
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:51,800
he showed a little bit of wiggle
and ability to finish the run
1011
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:57,900
down the sideline sometimes.
Seems as though he lets that
1012
01:01:57,900 --> 01:02:00,900
that ability to run hurt him
because sometimes he'll bail on
1013
01:02:00,900 --> 01:02:04,200
good Pockets just to pick up
some positive yards with his
1014
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:06,300
legs and sometimes he'll bail on
that.
1015
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:09,400
Take the 45 in get with his legs
when there could be more
1016
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:12,700
potential there.
All right, that sounds good.
1017
01:02:12,700 --> 01:02:15,700
Now, something that everybody
should know.
1018
01:02:15,700 --> 01:02:20,000
Is he is a sophomore, a true
sophomore, because at the end of
1019
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:23,900
the David cutcliffe era,
starting in mid October, last
1020
01:02:23,900 --> 01:02:28,900
year, he played significant
snaps in every game, but one,
1021
01:02:28,900 --> 01:02:30,600
and that was the last game
against Miami.
1022
01:02:31,500 --> 01:02:38,000
So essentially cutcliffe helps
his predecessor by getting a
1023
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:40,600
somewhat decent quarterback
coming out of college.
1024
01:02:40,900 --> 01:02:44,500
You're someone out of high
school, you know, live game reps
1025
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:48,600
to the tune of.
He had 62 attempts, he ran the
1026
01:02:48,607 --> 01:02:52,900
ball over 47 times.
So a lot of in-game action,
1027
01:02:53,700 --> 01:02:57,400
really over a course of five
game periods that Brian and he
1028
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:01,000
showed it should be.
Looks like a guy that can handle
1029
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:03,700
the moment right out the gate.
Absolutely.
1030
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,600
Now let's talk about it because
you've already mentioned him
1031
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:09,200
running the ball.
They've got a dynamic pair of
1032
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:10,600
running backs and let's start
with the first.
1033
01:03:10,700 --> 01:03:14,600
First here, Jordan Waters at a
Fairmont High School when
1034
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:17,000
Fairmont North Carolina eight
Force.
1035
01:03:17,100 --> 01:03:21,700
Excuse me, a 3 star 4 out of
24/7.
1036
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:26,700
You know, not the biggest list
as far as getting offers.
1037
01:03:26,700 --> 01:03:30,100
Obviously, you got some ECU and
wake offers but what are you
1038
01:03:30,100 --> 01:03:34,400
seeing from Jordan Waters?
And what he does in their part
1039
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:37,400
of the Run game?
Yeah he's more of their kind of
1040
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:39,800
every down back.
Really good burst through the
1041
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:42,800
hole.
He's great at setting up blocks
1042
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:44,900
and being patient at the point
of attack by letting his
1043
01:03:44,900 --> 01:03:47,500
blockers, get fully engaged
before he commits.
1044
01:03:48,100 --> 01:03:51,100
He's not really a home run
threat per se, but he gets
1045
01:03:51,100 --> 01:03:54,400
quickly from that first to
second level to consistently
1046
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:56,300
grab you.
Those like five to eight yard,
1047
01:03:56,300 --> 01:03:59,300
junkyards, occasionally breaking
some into that 10 or 15 yard
1048
01:03:59,300 --> 01:04:03,600
range and he runs through
contact and finishes his runs
1049
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:06,100
well.
So he usually gets those extra
1050
01:04:06,100 --> 01:04:08,800
one or two yards to close things
out that you like to see from a
1051
01:04:08,808 --> 01:04:13,000
running back and that Really
shows in his touchdowns, he's
1052
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:17,200
got eight so far this year, so
he's about snatching one in game
1053
01:04:17,700 --> 01:04:23,400
right at 5:00.
Airy 461 total yards and really
1054
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:26,700
this year, compared to his last
couple games, receiving the
1055
01:04:26,700 --> 01:04:31,600
ball, he has 16 receptions for
100 yards, that's not a huge
1056
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:34,300
number, but every time I see
that that tells me, he, they
1057
01:04:34,300 --> 01:04:38,100
trust him to get out for check
towns without we need to keep
1058
01:04:38,100 --> 01:04:40,500
our eye on with them and that's
pretty much what he does.
1059
01:04:40,700 --> 01:04:43,100
The passing game is check Downs.
The guy we're about to talk
1060
01:04:43,100 --> 01:04:46,500
about is the guy that use a lot
more in some design passes to
1061
01:04:46,508 --> 01:04:48,700
the running back.
Well, let's talk about in
1062
01:04:48,700 --> 01:04:52,400
jacquez more out of Swanee, High
School in Live Oak, Florida
1063
01:04:53,100 --> 01:04:56,500
three star coming out in the
class of 2020.
1064
01:04:56,500 --> 01:05:02,600
One Duke was his only Power 5
offer and he's accepted.
1065
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:07,200
And Brian from what I'm seeing,
these excel at Juke so far.
1066
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:10,700
Yeah.
Yeah he's definitely more the
1067
01:05:10,700 --> 01:05:12,600
receiving threaded running back
than Waters.
1068
01:05:13,100 --> 01:05:15,100
They like to throw it to him out
of the edge, kind of let him
1069
01:05:15,100 --> 01:05:17,900
operate in space makes a mousse,
breaks some tackles.
1070
01:05:18,500 --> 01:05:22,700
He's also effective in the zone
re game especially when the
1071
01:05:22,700 --> 01:05:25,300
fences lose contain and he can
kind of hit that cutback.
1072
01:05:25,300 --> 01:05:26,900
That's really his bread and
butter.
1073
01:05:27,300 --> 01:05:31,200
That's where he gets a lot of
his big plays and he is more of
1074
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:34,600
a second and third level threat
than water.
1075
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:37,600
So if he kind of gets past that
second level the defense, he's
1076
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:43,400
the guy It can break a big one.
Whereas Waters is more of a get
1077
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:47,400
you the first down to establish
the drive.
1078
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:51,000
Carry you through.
Whereas more can kind of break
1079
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,400
the big one on you if you let it
get past that second level.
1080
01:05:53,700 --> 01:05:56,200
Oh absolutely.
It shows in his yards per carry.
1081
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:58,900
I mean he is almost at 7 at six
point eight.
1082
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:03,400
He's right under 400 yards for
the season and you know a couple
1083
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:06,000
times when he's received when
he's caught the ball out on
1084
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:10,600
those Edge, you know games.
As of, you know, 23 and a couple
1085
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:13,000
there at 15, when they were
against Miami.
1086
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:16,300
So it's there, they don't look
to him too often there.
1087
01:06:16,300 --> 01:06:19,400
But I think, what's your point
is they send them out there
1088
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:22,000
which essentially takes away.
And when you have a guy like
1089
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,200
that, it's taken a linebacker
out.
1090
01:06:24,300 --> 01:06:27,100
And why do you think Riley
Leonard continuously he's
1091
01:06:27,100 --> 01:06:28,700
busting?
Well, there's one less guy in
1092
01:06:28,700 --> 01:06:30,400
the Box.
You've already mentioned.
1093
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:33,400
He's got the moves easier for
him to take off.
1094
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:37,800
Now, let's talk about a former
quarterback of Duke.
1095
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:43,200
Um let's talk about Jordan more
out of Towson Maryland Loyola
1096
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:46,400
blakefield.
He is a class of 20 21.
1097
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:52,700
He was a three-star 87 by 24/7
standards.
1098
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:56,600
You know, had some interest.
We did send him an offer, along
1099
01:06:56,600 --> 01:07:00,600
with teams, like Wisconsin,
West, Virginia hit Maryland.
1100
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:07,500
So a decent power 5 offer list,
And that was as a quarterback.
1101
01:07:07,500 --> 01:07:09,600
Now I don't know if everybody
was looking to converting but
1102
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:12,900
obviously Duke has decided to
convert him and what are they
1103
01:07:12,900 --> 01:07:16,500
doing with him so far?
Yeah, they're let him run a lot
1104
01:07:16,500 --> 01:07:20,200
of good underneath routes really
dangerous when they put him in
1105
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:23,500
motion on swings, sometimes
they'll run away a wheel off of
1106
01:07:23,500 --> 01:07:29,000
that shows really good quickness
in the open field but he's not a
1107
01:07:29,500 --> 01:07:31,300
in the elite straight line
Runner.
1108
01:07:31,300 --> 01:07:35,000
So a lot of what he does is kind
of stretched defense
1109
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:39,000
horizontally and makes them play
in space.
1110
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:44,900
All right?
And so we kind of sit here and
1111
01:07:44,900 --> 01:07:47,600
you ask.
Well, look at this, if you look
1112
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:50,400
at the stat line, it's going to
confuse you because last year,
1113
01:07:50,700 --> 01:07:55,500
he played in 10 games as a true
freshman and he did not have one
1114
01:07:55,500 --> 01:07:59,700
reception.
And he actually had 19 pass,
1115
01:07:59,700 --> 01:08:03,900
attempts last year for 95 yards
and a touchdown.
1116
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:08,200
But he also ran the ball, he
averaged 50 run.
1117
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:11,400
And when you start talking about
what you're talking about Brian,
1118
01:08:12,500 --> 01:08:14,800
how many times have we seen it
in the NFL?
1119
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:19,800
Where there is a smaller
quarterback, who has those type
1120
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:22,899
of?
I guess you could say traits and
1121
01:08:22,899 --> 01:08:24,899
they get to the NFL and do it
looks like Mike.
1122
01:08:24,899 --> 01:08:28,600
Elko went ahead and decided to
turn it into one now.
1123
01:08:29,500 --> 01:08:35,000
And so far this year, you know,
receiving wise, he's putting up
1124
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:39,300
really good numbers. 331 yards
on 32, receptions with three
1125
01:08:39,300 --> 01:08:45,399
touchdowns.
So I mean, it's really good.
1126
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:47,899
It's to me it's really good.
Coaches really good.
1127
01:08:47,899 --> 01:08:50,899
Identifying, what a kid can do.
Yeah.
1128
01:08:50,899 --> 01:08:53,200
And let me go to be that next
like Wes Welker.
1129
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:55,800
Julian Edelman type.
Exactly.
1130
01:08:56,100 --> 01:08:57,700
Exactly.
All right.
1131
01:08:57,700 --> 01:08:58,899
Well let's talk about this
scheme.
1132
01:08:58,899 --> 01:09:04,399
A little Ron and it's a scheme
of Kevin John's and Kevin John's
1133
01:09:04,399 --> 01:09:10,200
long time.
D1 coordinator with stops at
1134
01:09:10,300 --> 01:09:13,399
Texas Tech as the offensive
coordinator Indiana's, the
1135
01:09:13,399 --> 01:09:16,000
offensive coordinator.
He was the pass game coordinator
1136
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:19,399
at Northwestern.
He's been roughly coaching since
1137
01:09:19,399 --> 01:09:25,000
2002 where he started right here
in Richmond on some of those
1138
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:30,100
good early. 2002 David Clausen
teams what does he Like to run.
1139
01:09:30,100 --> 01:09:34,399
And you know, what are some of
the things we can expect to see
1140
01:09:34,399 --> 01:09:38,800
on Saturday from this offense?
Yeah, so, I mean, it's a Smash
1141
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:43,500
Mouth spray offense, a lot of
1112 Personnel occasionally,
1142
01:09:43,500 --> 01:09:48,500
they'll work in some 21, heavy
peppering of inside outside
1143
01:09:48,500 --> 01:09:50,800
Zone.
Read, you'll see counter some
1144
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:54,100
pin and pull sweet.
Some split Zone in the running
1145
01:09:54,100 --> 01:09:57,700
game in the passing game.
They like to stretch you
1146
01:09:58,100 --> 01:10:01,100
horizontally to That up the
vertical throws which they don't
1147
01:10:01,100 --> 01:10:04,200
do very often.
A lot of those are like kind of
1148
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:07,200
pick Concepts to screw up there
man responsibilities.
1149
01:10:08,100 --> 01:10:13,600
But watching the BC Tate they
went 40, plus offensive plays
1150
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:16,000
against BC.
Before I saw the ball go more
1151
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:21,400
than 20 yards down fit.
Oh I do not take they do not
1152
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:25,400
take a lot of vertical shots,
everything is kind of in that
1153
01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:31,100
zero to 15 yard range
Interesting.
1154
01:10:31,100 --> 01:10:32,400
Interesting.
Interesting.
1155
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:37,000
What about the offensive line?
And I know they were a guy, a
1156
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:42,400
team that went out and got some
FCS and some G5 offensive
1157
01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:45,500
lineman and it looks like it's
actually paying off for them.
1158
01:10:46,500 --> 01:10:51,300
When you say, you have a got
guys that can run block pretty
1159
01:10:51,300 --> 01:10:55,300
darn well and pass block.
Good enough for the amount of
1160
01:10:55,300 --> 01:10:58,000
time that they're asking Leonard
to stay in the pocket.
1161
01:10:58,900 --> 01:11:01,600
A lot of this stuff is coming
out so quick, they don't have to
1162
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:04,300
be great pass /.
They just have to be good enough
1163
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:08,500
but they got guys that can run
block very well and and they put
1164
01:11:08,500 --> 01:11:12,000
together an offensive line that
is able to keep them on the
1165
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:13,400
field, a lot.
Yeah.
1166
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:16,600
Because they can run the
football and three of their five
1167
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:19,300
starting offensive linemen.
That showing on their depth
1168
01:11:19,300 --> 01:11:23,500
charts are the transfers Jack
Byrnes is the guy that came from
1169
01:11:23,500 --> 01:11:29,000
the ivy league chance Lytle.
And Andre Harris came from Five.
1170
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:33,500
So it kind of just tells you
what they did in the portal and
1171
01:11:33,500 --> 01:11:37,100
I did misspeak a few weeks ago.
Shout-out, fish out there.
1172
01:11:37,100 --> 01:11:38,300
He actually had to write
numbers.
1173
01:11:38,300 --> 01:11:39,900
I don't know what the hell I was
staring at.
1174
01:11:39,900 --> 01:11:42,400
I swear it was more but it is
what it is.
1175
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:46,300
I'll say when I'm wrong, not
afraid to do that but it seems
1176
01:11:46,300 --> 01:11:49,700
like they hit you hit all three
offensive lineman in the pool
1177
01:11:49,700 --> 01:11:54,300
and they're all not horrible,
it'll help the team out in a
1178
01:11:54,308 --> 01:11:56,600
heartbeat.
Well they're all starters on
1179
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:59,600
your team and they're giving you
Good snaps.
1180
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:05,600
Every everybody that they got
boosted, the areas that they
1181
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:08,200
were deficient in.
Well, let's flip it to defense
1182
01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:11,600
and let's talk about one of the
first guys and it's probably the
1183
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:13,600
best defensive player on their
team.
1184
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:18,100
And that's Darius Jordan Darius
Jordan transfer from FCS Western
1185
01:12:18,100 --> 01:12:22,700
Illinois where he was an
All-American safety and so far
1186
01:12:22,700 --> 01:12:27,500
this year he is absolutely
tearing it up. 71 tackles seven
1187
01:12:27,500 --> 01:12:29,700
of them for loss.
He has three sacks.
1188
01:12:29,900 --> 01:12:32,500
He has an Perceptions.
He has a forced fumble.
1189
01:12:32,700 --> 01:12:34,600
He even has some pass
deflections.
1190
01:12:37,100 --> 01:12:40,500
How does a guy like he had a guy
like this not sneak off to the
1191
01:12:40,500 --> 01:12:44,000
NFL because I'm assuming what
you're seeing on his tape and
1192
01:12:44,008 --> 01:12:46,600
he's going somewhere in the
first five rounds.
1193
01:12:47,500 --> 01:12:49,000
He's definitely going to go
somewhere.
1194
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:51,800
Definitely the best athlete on
the defense.
1195
01:12:52,500 --> 01:12:58,700
Dairies Joiner is Standout jump
off the tape when you look at it
1196
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:01,800
in terms of everybody else on
the defense, great and run,
1197
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:06,600
support Elite in Pursuit.
They'll use him all over the
1198
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:09,300
field.
Single high in the Box blitzing
1199
01:13:09,300 --> 01:13:13,500
spill an alley Defender.
He's better as a deeper kind of
1200
01:13:13,500 --> 01:13:15,500
mid Zone Defender than he is in
man.
1201
01:13:15,500 --> 01:13:18,200
Man coverage is probably his
only real deficiency in his
1202
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:21,600
game, but I mean, he definitely
stands out on tape and he can
1203
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:23,700
make plays in The Run game and
in the pass game.
1204
01:13:24,300 --> 01:13:28,300
Awesome.
In again, the gals at Western
1205
01:13:28,300 --> 01:13:30,500
Illinois here.
We usually run to Jacksonville
1206
01:13:30,500 --> 01:13:33,700
State when he came out of high
school transferred to Western
1207
01:13:33,700 --> 01:13:36,400
Illinois and then winds up at
Duke and his really showing out
1208
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:38,300
this year, which is great for
that kid.
1209
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:42,200
Let's talk about the defensive
line because there's a few guys
1210
01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:43,300
here.
I want to bring up first.
1211
01:13:43,300 --> 01:13:45,000
Let's talk about the edge Guy,
Brian.
1212
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:49,600
Let's talk about RJ obon out of
st.
1213
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:54,600
Peter's prep in Jersey City, New
Jersey class of 2019, a three
1214
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:58,900
star.
What's he showing on tape?
1215
01:13:58,900 --> 01:14:04,900
Because you know, he's 64 255.
So that's the prototypical,
1216
01:14:05,300 --> 01:14:08,900
really good size and length for
a college body.
1217
01:14:08,900 --> 01:14:12,500
Probably missing about 15 pounds
to make it to the pros.
1218
01:14:12,500 --> 01:14:16,400
But what's he showing tape?
Yeah, I mean he's a big long
1219
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:20,900
defensive end plays a good
technique and that's that's kind
1220
01:14:20,900 --> 01:14:24,500
of the thing we'll talk about
with the defense is that
1221
01:14:25,100 --> 01:14:28,800
everybody is plays with good
technique on this defense.
1222
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:32,700
And I don't know if that's a
carryover from the cutcliffe
1223
01:14:32,700 --> 01:14:34,700
stuff.
I know some of these guys are
1224
01:14:34,700 --> 01:14:38,500
new to the field, they are in
terms of joinder but you know
1225
01:14:38,500 --> 01:14:43,600
the guy we're talking about now
plays The Run well holds and
1226
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:47,100
shoots the Gap.
Well Wrong arms, the puller, we
1227
01:14:47,100 --> 01:14:50,600
could force, he's not an Elite
pass rusher, but he puts himself
1228
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:54,300
consistently in position to make
plays in the backfield whether
1229
01:14:54,300 --> 01:14:57,400
that's a quarterback pressure.
Tackle for loss or a sack.
1230
01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:00,800
He's good at providing backside
contain and send the edge when
1231
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:04,300
he needs to and he pursues.
Well and can chase down plays
1232
01:15:04,300 --> 01:15:08,000
from the backside as well.
Good to know.
1233
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:10,300
Good to know.
So definitely look for him on
1234
01:15:10,700 --> 01:15:13,900
some of those outside Zone runs
and we have seen in the last few
1235
01:15:13,900 --> 01:15:17,600
weeks but also brine with what
he's done.
1236
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:21,500
It's really opened it up for the
big guy on the inside the wing
1237
01:15:21,500 --> 01:15:31,300
quarter, Dwayne Carter who from
Pinkerton Ohio a three-star when
1238
01:15:31,300 --> 01:15:36,900
he came out in 2019 out of
Pinkerton Central was a
1239
01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:41,500
Originally thought to be going
to Michigan State but he shun
1240
01:15:41,500 --> 01:15:48,200
them a half three star in 88
when he came out top 20 player
1241
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:50,800
in Ohio's a top, 40 defensive
tackles.
1242
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:56,600
So you know, at six foot three
and 300-plus pounds right now,
1243
01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:02,500
you know, that's that's pretty
good size in, you know, pretty
1244
01:16:02,500 --> 01:16:04,300
good.
You know, rating coming out of
1245
01:16:04,300 --> 01:16:08,600
high school has Elko been able
to really Ali utilize him in a
1246
01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:12,200
good way this year.
Yeah, I mean he's really strong
1247
01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:15,800
in the Gap plays.
The good, leverage shows, good
1248
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:18,100
quickness for a Dietz defensive,
tackle his size.
1249
01:16:18,100 --> 01:16:23,000
He shoots that Gap.
Well, big effort player, shows
1250
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:26,500
really good.
Motor doesn't give up plays.
1251
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:30,000
He doesn't use his hands as
effectively as he could to shed
1252
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:31,200
blockers.
That's probably really the
1253
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:36,800
biggest weakness in his in his
game right now and he's not an
1254
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:39,900
Elite pass rusher.
He's just average, but he's
1255
01:16:39,900 --> 01:16:41,900
okay.
Effective especially in obvious
1256
01:16:41,900 --> 01:16:46,400
passing situations.
Makes sense, makes sense.
1257
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:51,600
And I'll say, just the
Improvement for him is
1258
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:54,600
statistically, like, last year,
he only had seven and a half
1259
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:57,700
tackles for lost.
He's already one and a half plus
1260
01:16:57,700 --> 01:16:59,900
on that number.
This year, four and a half
1261
01:16:59,900 --> 01:17:01,600
sacks.
Last year, he's already at that
1262
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:05,900
number, this year, with with,
you know, three games to go on
1263
01:17:05,900 --> 01:17:10,800
Pace to probably be slightly
above his tackles for last year,
1264
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:13,500
but here's where it scares the
crap out of me after what we've
1265
01:17:13,500 --> 01:17:16,900
had happened.
Last The guy has had three
1266
01:17:16,900 --> 01:17:19,100
forced fumbles.
He's had three, fumble,
1267
01:17:19,100 --> 01:17:24,100
recoveries, and he included a
scoop and score, as much as
1268
01:17:24,100 --> 01:17:28,000
we've turned the ball over.
I look at that data and I go.
1269
01:17:28,100 --> 01:17:29,900
Oh shit.
That's not good.
1270
01:17:29,900 --> 01:17:32,800
Especially the guy who's
consistently doing it because he
1271
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:37,200
did it four times last year.
That's worrisome, that's
1272
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:39,300
worrisome.
And that's where he's strong in
1273
01:17:39,300 --> 01:17:40,500
the Gap.
He shoots the Gap.
1274
01:17:40,500 --> 01:17:44,100
Well, so we're sometimes getting
into that area where the running
1275
01:17:44,100 --> 01:17:46,100
back.
It doesn't quite have that full
1276
01:17:46,500 --> 01:17:49,700
full grip on the ball after the
handoff or after the mesh.
1277
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:53,800
He's able to penetrate their
quick and he's playing right
1278
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:57,200
over the center most times.
Usually lined up in a one or a
1279
01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:58,900
zero.
We'll talk about that too
1280
01:17:58,900 --> 01:18:00,500
second.
Sometimes in a three.
1281
01:18:00,500 --> 01:18:02,800
But yeah.
All right.
1282
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:05,200
Yeah, he's coming at you.
All right.
1283
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:08,700
Let's go real quick.
Let's try to wrap this up and
1284
01:18:08,700 --> 01:18:10,700
for you to the skiing.
Let's talk about two guys in the
1285
01:18:10,700 --> 01:18:13,700
linebacker room.
Usually do for we're doing five
1286
01:18:13,700 --> 01:18:17,600
because It's another transfer.
We're going to talk about the
1287
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:21,600
end, here's making.
Hey, but let's talk about the
1288
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:24,500
kind of the guy.
They're shocked a Howard,
1289
01:18:24,900 --> 01:18:29,200
six-foot-four 220-pound
linebacker a three-star.
1290
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:31,500
When he came out of Mill Creek
down in Georgia.
1291
01:18:31,500 --> 01:18:35,400
One of those good schools down
there and so far this year and
1292
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:38,500
so far just in general in his
career he has been a productive
1293
01:18:38,500 --> 01:18:41,400
player this year.
Sixty six, tackles four and a
1294
01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:46,800
half for loss.
A sack 2:06 flexes to fumble,
1295
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:50,000
recoveries.
But in his career over 300
1296
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:53,500
tackles he has started
especially since his freshman
1297
01:18:53,500 --> 01:18:57,900
year over 300, tackles over 30,
tackles for loss, 10 and a half
1298
01:18:57,900 --> 01:19:03,300
sacks interceptions.
I mean, what more can you ask
1299
01:19:03,300 --> 01:19:06,500
for from like an 86?
That comes and plays at Dukes
1300
01:19:06,500 --> 01:19:08,000
putting up those kind of
numbers?
1301
01:19:09,100 --> 01:19:11,900
Yeah, I mean the big thing, you
know, we talked about it already
1302
01:19:11,900 --> 01:19:17,100
but he is a technically Sound
Player, he tackles well reads
1303
01:19:17,100 --> 01:19:23,300
offenses quickly, he's better in
coverage especially May Zone
1304
01:19:23,300 --> 01:19:26,400
coverage.
He can get a little bit on an
1305
01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:30,400
island there and man, he
sometimes can get washed by down
1306
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:33,100
block.
But he's Really solid player
1307
01:19:33,100 --> 01:19:36,500
really good tackler.
And just a guy that is always in
1308
01:19:36,500 --> 01:19:42,500
the right spot to make a play.
All right, let's flip over to
1309
01:19:42,500 --> 01:19:47,900
the other guy who was another
transfer and that is Cam Dillon
1310
01:19:47,900 --> 01:19:50,200
cam Dylan.
Originally attended Columbia in
1311
01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:54,600
the ivy league.
Had no other offers not even
1312
01:19:54,600 --> 01:20:02,300
rated by 24/7 and he's come down
to Juke and this year in sort of
1313
01:20:02,300 --> 01:20:04,300
a, you'll mention in a second,
he arrived.
1314
01:20:04,300 --> 01:20:08,500
But kind of a secondary role,
34, tackles three tackles for
1315
01:20:08,500 --> 01:20:13,800
loss, couple forced Close.
And he's not playing every snap.
1316
01:20:15,900 --> 01:20:19,200
Yeah, he's kind of their spell,
Mike but he's also the primary
1317
01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:21,800
nickel linebacker that they have
on the field.
1318
01:20:22,500 --> 01:20:25,300
They like him as a Blitzer.
They'll also drop it in coverage
1319
01:20:25,300 --> 01:20:28,600
usually in his own
responsibility and he plays a
1320
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:31,000
great technique and he's a very
good tackler.
1321
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:34,500
You gets guys to the ground and
that's really what we're his
1322
01:20:34,500 --> 01:20:36,900
biggest benefit is he's good at
Rushing the passer.
1323
01:20:36,900 --> 01:20:39,600
Very good at getting guys to the
ground when he's at a spot to
1324
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:43,200
make a play.
That is awesome to hear.
1325
01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:47,100
But again, it's it's a No, we
said it three or four times.
1326
01:20:47,100 --> 01:20:50,100
It's like every guy that got in
the portal significant
1327
01:20:50,100 --> 01:20:52,200
contributors significant
contributor significant
1328
01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:55,300
contributor and that's where the
portal gain can do for you.
1329
01:20:55,700 --> 01:21:00,600
If you hit on in this case they
hit on just about everybody, it
1330
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:03,600
can help your team Brian.
Let's talk about real quick.
1331
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:07,700
The defensive scheme obviously.
This is a lot of my kale koen.
1332
01:21:07,700 --> 01:21:12,900
It is being ran by Rob Smith.
Rob Smith who last year was the
1333
01:21:12,900 --> 01:21:15,400
defensive coordinator under Greg
Schiano at Rutgers.
1334
01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:19,800
He It also worked with Elko as
an analyst back at am, but he
1335
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:23,100
had also been a defensive
coordinator at Minnesota and 27
1336
01:21:23,100 --> 01:21:28,700
and 2017. 2018 Arkansas, D
coordinator in 2014 16.
1337
01:21:28,700 --> 01:21:32,100
He also has an NFL experience
with the Buccaneers.
1338
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:37,300
So in again, guarantee I knows
firsthand your he was as
1339
01:21:37,300 --> 01:21:41,000
defensive coordinator, as well.
So really experienced guy as a
1340
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:44,300
DC, and what are you seeing from
this defense?
1341
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:50,100
Yeah, this is a 4 to 5, it's a
pressure heavy system so we're
1342
01:21:50,100 --> 01:21:55,500
very familiar with this team is
very sound in technique, some of
1343
01:21:55,500 --> 01:21:58,000
that carry over from cutcliffe,
some of that is finding the
1344
01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:03,700
right scheme fit guys to kind of
bring in and Shore up the areas
1345
01:22:03,700 --> 01:22:04,800
that were deficient in the
offseason.
1346
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:08,300
And the thing that, you know,
we've seen some of this with the
1347
01:22:08,300 --> 01:22:10,700
Hokies as well but they run that
split front.
1348
01:22:10,700 --> 01:22:15,200
That 505 nickel package that
creates some confusion Infusion
1349
01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:16,800
against opposing offensive
lines.
1350
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:19,700
And they bring probably a little
bit more pressure consistently
1351
01:22:19,700 --> 01:22:21,500
with it than we do at the
moment.
1352
01:22:21,500 --> 01:22:24,400
So, yeah, well, I feel like
every time we've seen it, we're
1353
01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:29,700
dropping nine.
So, I mean, so if to me, it'd be
1354
01:22:29,700 --> 01:22:32,500
like any pressures more pressure
than what we're doing right now.
1355
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:35,400
All right, Brian.
Let's flip real quick.
1356
01:22:35,400 --> 01:22:39,400
Let's because we're pushing
almost 19 or an hour and a half
1357
01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:41,300
already.
We still got a couple things to
1358
01:22:41,300 --> 01:22:44,300
talk about.
No, the enemy.
1359
01:22:44,300 --> 01:22:47,400
Let's talk about the Hokies keys
and I keep going back to this
1360
01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:48,700
and I'm gonna keep going back to
it.
1361
01:22:48,900 --> 01:22:53,000
How we run the ball is going to
be where we are in this game.
1362
01:22:53,500 --> 01:22:56,400
Well yeah three and a half was
effective enough where we should
1363
01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:58,500
have probably beaten Georgia
Tech.
1364
01:22:58,500 --> 01:23:00,400
I'm going to be nice and say we
miss a field goal.
1365
01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:04,100
We should have beaten Georgia
Tech by touchdown, not ten
1366
01:23:04,100 --> 01:23:09,900
points but you know That's just
kind of my feeling, I mean this,
1367
01:23:09,900 --> 01:23:12,200
this is a decent defense.
I mean, they're only giving up
1368
01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:16,200
23 points a game.
So I got a feeling it might be
1369
01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:21,600
tough sledding again for the
Hokies offense.
1370
01:23:23,100 --> 01:23:24,900
Yeah, definitely the Rogue he's
Run game.
1371
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:28,600
Yeah, and the Hokies definitely
have to establish that run game.
1372
01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:32,400
It doesn't have to be great, but
it needs to be effective and
1373
01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:34,200
we've talked about it for
several weeks.
1374
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:38,300
Now we've seen it.
Have varying degrees of success,
1375
01:23:38,300 --> 01:23:42,100
you know, this past week.
I think if we held onto the ball
1376
01:23:42,100 --> 01:23:45,100
a couple extra times out of been
more or less happy with the Run
1377
01:23:45,100 --> 01:23:51,200
game, I think we've got a cap of
what we can expect from this run
1378
01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:54,700
game and as long as it is
efficient, meaning getting close
1379
01:23:54,700 --> 01:23:59,300
to that four yards, a carry
giving the ability to run any of
1380
01:23:59,300 --> 01:24:01,700
that play action that we can or
any of that.
1381
01:24:01,700 --> 01:24:04,200
Max.
Protect that we can because
1382
01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:06,400
we've been effective.
When we can go back to Act on
1383
01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:11,300
off play action, and in some of
those deep shots, but you can't
1384
01:24:11,300 --> 01:24:14,500
really set those up very well,
if you're not somewhat efficient
1385
01:24:14,500 --> 01:24:17,700
in the run again, someone
affected and Dukes defense run
1386
01:24:17,700 --> 01:24:20,500
defense is efficient their 21st
in the country, they're only
1387
01:24:20,500 --> 01:24:25,600
giving up 124 yards, a game
under 43.7 a carry.
1388
01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:28,100
So I think Brian it might go
back to what you said last week
1389
01:24:28,100 --> 01:24:32,200
if we hit three and a half on 35
to 40 carries, that might put us
1390
01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:37,300
in a good position again to
potentially Ali have a chance in
1391
01:24:37,300 --> 01:24:40,100
this game.
I'm going to flip to this next
1392
01:24:40,100 --> 01:24:43,000
because this is the one that
shocked me looking at defensive
1393
01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:46,300
stats.
A team that's 6 + 3.
1394
01:24:46,400 --> 01:24:49,400
I gave you the rush numbers, you
know, they're given up under,
1395
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:51,500
you know, right at 23 points.
A game.
1396
01:24:52,100 --> 01:24:53,900
How good do you think they're
good for third down?
1397
01:24:53,900 --> 01:25:00,500
Conversion would be pretty good
middle of pack.
1398
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:08,800
No worst somehow somehow they're
bad 10 ninth in the country.
1399
01:25:09,100 --> 01:25:12,900
They are giving up.
Almost 43 percent of third down
1400
01:25:12,900 --> 01:25:18,200
conversions, I sit here and I'll
ask you, would you be happy with
1401
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:22,800
40 on Saturday?
I'd be very happy with 40 since
1402
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:25,900
we've been consistently like
below 35.
1403
01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:30,600
Most of the year so far so we
could get 40 or above.
1404
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:32,900
That would be great.
That put us at least in
1405
01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:38,100
positions to stay on the field
without having to rely on some
1406
01:25:38,100 --> 01:25:40,100
of those chunk plays on early
Downs.
1407
01:25:40,900 --> 01:25:43,500
That's a biggie right there and
that's the big.
1408
01:25:43,500 --> 01:25:48,800
I think a lot for this game is
going to be The game that the
1409
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:52,000
Hokies can win, here is a low
possession game.
1410
01:25:52,500 --> 01:25:55,600
I would say a 12 possession.
Total game is how we can win
1411
01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:57,800
that.
And as we talk about those
1412
01:25:57,800 --> 01:26:00,600
conversions, we talk about our
Run game but it's also going to
1413
01:26:00,608 --> 01:26:04,900
be, I run the against that.
Run offense, we mentioned three
1414
01:26:04,900 --> 01:26:07,000
of the players, we gave you, the
data Brian, gave you the
1415
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:10,900
breakdown on each, this is a
team that is a top 25 Russian
1416
01:26:10,900 --> 01:26:13,800
team.
They're getting over 208 yards a
1417
01:26:13,808 --> 01:26:18,500
game and it's good as Waters and
more is I Really think Brian.
1418
01:26:18,700 --> 01:26:21,100
That rylander's legs are the
key.
1419
01:26:21,900 --> 01:26:25,500
And when I say the key, I mean
more of a key to this being a
1420
01:26:25,500 --> 01:26:30,000
game that's tight in the fourth
quarter or potentially them
1421
01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:32,600
walking away from us in the
third quarter, fourth quarter.
1422
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:38,800
Yeah you know when we look at
this we got to make sure that
1423
01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:42,900
We're not letting Riley Leonard
beat us.
1424
01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:46,500
I think if we can get into those
predictable outcomes in the zone
1425
01:26:46,500 --> 01:26:49,200
re game, where the ball is,
handed to the running back,
1426
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:51,200
that's probably a better thing
for us now.
1427
01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:55,500
We still got to be good in that
backside contain because if
1428
01:26:55,500 --> 01:26:59,300
we're, if we're forcing the
mesh, They were forcing the
1429
01:26:59,300 --> 01:27:03,300
given the mesh, then there could
be some, some cutback Lane.
1430
01:27:03,300 --> 01:27:06,800
So we got to make sure that
we're not missing tackles that
1431
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:12,000
were not giving up contained on
the back side, that's going to
1432
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:14,500
be a big key for sure.
All right.
1433
01:27:14,600 --> 01:27:17,600
One last piece that I think the
key is going to be the forcing
1434
01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:20,400
of turnovers.
We obviously did Force One but
1435
01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:25,700
unfortunately we also
surrendered for but Dukes of top
1436
01:27:25,700 --> 01:27:27,700
team in the country, in turnover
margin.
1437
01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:31,800
And they've only turn the ball
over six times all year.
1438
01:27:32,900 --> 01:27:37,500
All year, but a little little
Ray of Hope.
1439
01:27:37,500 --> 01:27:41,200
Well, Ray, I hope we know.
They lost to Georgia Tech 2320
1440
01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:45,900
of their six.
They gave up to in that game and
1441
01:27:45,900 --> 01:27:48,500
they did not take anything away
from Georgia Tech.
1442
01:27:49,500 --> 01:27:53,200
And if we go back and look at
the Georgia Tech game for us,
1443
01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:58,900
this week is They were plus 3
and they beat us by a point.
1444
01:27:59,500 --> 01:28:02,600
This is one of those
correlations to say if we can
1445
01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:06,600
just stay away from the
turnovers and I know that's
1446
01:28:06,600 --> 01:28:08,800
easier said than done.
But forced them to have one of
1447
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:13,000
their bad games because one of
their bad games, they lost to
1448
01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:16,700
one of the worst teams even
though we've lost to that team.
1449
01:28:16,700 --> 01:28:21,000
So are we worse or not?
Yeah, that's the question.
1450
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:25,600
I mean, overall Duke is played
much better than we have all
1451
01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:27,400
year obviously, but hundred
percent.
1452
01:28:27,400 --> 01:28:30,700
Yeah, they lost to a team that
we all must be that we should
1453
01:28:30,700 --> 01:28:32,900
have beat if we did just taking
care of some things there at the
1454
01:28:32,900 --> 01:28:37,100
end.
Does that, you know, how was the
1455
01:28:37,100 --> 01:28:41,400
locker room reacting to that?
Are they saying yes.
1456
01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:43,400
Shit, we are almost there or are
they saying?
1457
01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:46,600
Damn, we let another one get
away because their mentality
1458
01:28:47,500 --> 01:28:51,100
true and you hope it's the
Latter, not the former.
1459
01:28:51,100 --> 01:28:54,700
Because it's if it's the, how do
we keep letting these games go
1460
01:28:54,700 --> 01:28:57,500
away?
That's a defeatist mentality.
1461
01:28:58,100 --> 01:29:02,500
That's the whole, you know, the
finishing, the winning that is
1462
01:29:02,500 --> 01:29:05,800
not the mentality, you need.
All right, we're almost there.
1463
01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:09,700
We're a couple plays away from
from putting these things away.
1464
01:29:09,700 --> 01:29:12,400
Now, let's go make those plays.
Well, I pose this to you for
1465
01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:15,800
hon.
How many plays do you think we
1466
01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:21,200
are from the 33 of our losses
being wins?
1467
01:29:21,500 --> 01:29:25,000
Do you think it's zero to five
or one to 50 to?
1468
01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:32,200
I think 025 in at least ODU, and
Georgia Tech, right?
1469
01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:35,000
At five maybe just over that
against NC State.
1470
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:38,200
Okay.
So you're thinking overall,
1471
01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:45,500
we're probably 15 or under plays
from being Do the math five and
1472
01:29:45,500 --> 01:29:48,600
four?
Yep, nice.
1473
01:29:48,700 --> 01:29:51,000
Well, let's get the game for
whether that's encouraging or
1474
01:29:51,008 --> 01:29:53,000
discouraging to the players.
I don't know.
1475
01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:55,500
That's all mentality.
That's all.
1476
01:29:55,500 --> 01:29:58,700
Yeah, like you got to have
conversation, but I mean that's,
1477
01:29:58,700 --> 01:30:01,600
that's definitely, you know,
that's definitely where we are
1478
01:30:01,600 --> 01:30:05,500
right now.
I mean, I think in the end if we
1479
01:30:05,500 --> 01:30:10,300
were five and four, I think
people would feel a whole lot
1480
01:30:10,300 --> 01:30:13,700
better about this season, so
I'll go back and we're close to
1481
01:30:13,700 --> 01:30:17,600
the fact that we're close to
that is encouraging but your
1482
01:30:17,600 --> 01:30:20,600
record is what your record is.
We're close.
1483
01:30:20,600 --> 01:30:23,300
But we're far away.
Yeah, your record is still what
1484
01:30:23,300 --> 01:30:25,100
your record is.
So you got em.
1485
01:30:25,100 --> 01:30:26,700
Got to finish that.
That's just what it is.
1486
01:30:26,700 --> 01:30:29,300
You got to finish.
We are who we thought we were.
1487
01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:31,200
All right.
Game prediction time.
1488
01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:35,400
Brian, I'll go first.
Listen, I'm just not feeling it.
1489
01:30:35,700 --> 01:30:37,600
I think they usually take care
of us.
1490
01:30:37,800 --> 01:30:41,200
Thing.
And I've got that stim blowing
1491
01:30:41,200 --> 01:30:43,400
us out early or then finishing
this off late.
1492
01:30:43,400 --> 01:30:47,000
I don't know.
I've got this closer.
1493
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:51,400
I've got a scoring at least one
non offensive touchdown.
1494
01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:58,400
I've got Duke hanging on at 31
226 31:26.
1495
01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:01,200
All right.
Big screen or for the week,
1496
01:31:01,200 --> 01:31:02,800
Brian.
I'm going to be doing some
1497
01:31:02,800 --> 01:31:04,500
traveling.
So I won't be able to catch
1498
01:31:04,500 --> 01:31:09,200
hardly any of the early games.
Hokies what I'll be doing,
1499
01:31:09,500 --> 01:31:14,500
probably following on my phone,
and putting earbuds in You know,
1500
01:31:15,800 --> 01:31:19,500
at numerous points in time, I'm
hoping I'll find the TV, but
1501
01:31:19,500 --> 01:31:24,700
when I get back, I will be
watching the TCU Texas game game
1502
01:31:24,700 --> 01:31:28,800
day on site.
I think purposely the cfp, put
1503
01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:33,000
them at for to give it the big
feel, you know, if you put them
1504
01:31:33,000 --> 01:31:36,600
in like six and they're like
their number six is like, no one
1505
01:31:36,600 --> 01:31:39,000
cares.
No one gives a crap you never
1506
01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:44,800
for more people care.
TCU is getting some Points the
1507
01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:47,900
over under 65.
I think the over hits.
1508
01:31:48,300 --> 01:31:53,600
I think it's a shootout in the
honest truth is I don't know who
1509
01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:57,200
will win the game, but I think
because I because my field is,
1510
01:31:57,200 --> 01:31:59,200
it's going to be a tight game.
It's probably going to be
1511
01:31:59,200 --> 01:32:05,700
somewhere like, 35 38.
I'll repeat TCU and take the
1512
01:32:05,700 --> 01:32:08,400
points.
All right, about you.
1513
01:32:09,600 --> 01:32:11,400
I'm going a little off kilter
this week.
1514
01:32:11,700 --> 01:32:14,300
Okay.
I'm going down.
1515
01:32:15,900 --> 01:32:19,800
To to Louisiana.
I'm going to UCF at Tulane.
1516
01:32:20,200 --> 01:32:32,800
All right, lane to Lane is too.
Lame, is the two-point favorite
1517
01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:37,500
here, over under on.
That one is 51 and a half.
1518
01:32:38,200 --> 01:32:41,700
I've got two lane winning and
covering and I'm going to take
1519
01:32:41,700 --> 01:32:48,000
the under one under It's the the
always scary thing to watch is
1520
01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:52,600
just watching an under when team
starts corn, like stop slow
1521
01:32:52,600 --> 01:32:55,400
down, so we got too much time
elapsed slow down.
1522
01:32:55,700 --> 01:32:59,400
There's still 30 minutes left.
Why are we at 35 points already?
1523
01:33:00,500 --> 01:33:03,100
Alright, so there you go, for
our big screeners are game
1524
01:33:03,100 --> 01:33:05,600
predictions.
Brian, anything breaking in the
1525
01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:10,700
last hour and 34 minutes since
we jumped on, I'm not seeing
1526
01:33:10,700 --> 01:33:12,900
anything buddy.
Alrighty.
1527
01:33:12,900 --> 01:33:14,400
Who's winning the game behind us
here?
1528
01:33:14,500 --> 01:33:17,600
Yes.
Me just turn around here.
1529
01:33:17,900 --> 01:33:24,000
Whoo, 21:21 Ball.
State Toledo under nine.
1530
01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:26,600
What's the line in that?
Can you pull that up real quick?
1531
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:28,700
Yeah.
Now I'm just kind of interested
1532
01:33:28,700 --> 01:33:32,200
here.
Like, is there anybody sweating
1533
01:33:34,200 --> 01:33:36,500
making bets on this because
obviously this looks like it's
1534
01:33:36,500 --> 01:33:39,400
been an entertaining game in the
glass mold down at Toledo.
1535
01:33:41,400 --> 01:33:44,700
Let's see.
Toledo was eleven point
1536
01:33:44,700 --> 01:33:47,100
favorite?
What's the over-under?
1537
01:33:48,400 --> 01:33:53,700
Let's see. 50/50 and a half.
All right.
1538
01:33:53,800 --> 01:33:56,500
Well, that's some sweaters right
there at 42.
1539
01:33:56,600 --> 01:34:00,500
I mean you know if you're if you
took Ball State in the points
1540
01:34:00,500 --> 01:34:05,700
tonight you're feeling good.
So interesting.
1541
01:34:06,100 --> 01:34:09,100
All righty.
Well, let's close it up.
1542
01:34:09,100 --> 01:34:13,100
Ryan that wraps up this episode
of The Boundary Corner podcast
1543
01:34:13,100 --> 01:34:16,000
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1544
01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:18,700
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1545
01:34:19,100 --> 01:34:22,900
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1546
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And as always Brian, let's go
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Welcome back to the boundary
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Brian Sigler, I'm Curtis Wilson
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real happy.
All right, Brian, how you doing
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tonight, man, man, I'm tired,
dude.
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Oh yeah, yeah, you got nailed it
work today.
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I didn't usually Brian starts
putting notes from all his game
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film in throughout the day on
Tuesdays.
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And like I went in there, tenant
one was in there, one of their
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one, and nothing was in there.
And when I went there, three and
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nothing was in there messed and
Dude, are you alive?
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I'm good.
I'm getting there.
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I got it in there.
It was one of those days where I
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didn't anticipate it being
anything but then was a thing.
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So I kinda ran fire bullets at
him all day, just attack attack.
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I didn't see it coming.
I didn't see it coming.
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Hey my head down, head my head
down.
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It's one of those things we got
in the background over here,
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over my left shoulder, some
action.
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So, if you've got betting lines,
hey, aim of this, Second
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quarter, which it's in the
second quarter.
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What in the world happened to
this game?
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This game was an 8:00.
Kick house.
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It just in the second quarter.
What are they doing?
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No, it's 14 to 14 at that.
It must have been like 100
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passes.
Anybody knows exactly what's
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going on that game.
Please comment, I started the
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beginning of it but so we'll
have that in the background
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throughout the remainder of the
show.
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There you go.
All right, Brian.
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Well let's get to it, man.
A tough tough.
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Tough recap.
We got to go through here.
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We talked a couple times
Saturday.
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We've obviously talk numerous
times since then.
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Yep.
The the Hokies blowing 11-point
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lead in the fourth quarter and
fall to Georgia, Tech 2827.
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And I have this literary
classic.
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I love Piggy and Gerald for
anybody out there with kids p
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and Gerald are dope straight up.
If you read those things with
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your kit, a, you're helping your
kid, but be, they're also very
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funny.
And I love the one where piggy
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gets upset, when Gerald breaks
his toy, I am mad.
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I am sad.
I am mad and sad.
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That is kind of what we've been
for the last few days.
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Braun with the result in all the
shit out of this game.
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Yeah, that was.
I mean it's Nothing to lose in
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that fashion once to have it
happen back to back.
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So the week before, we're
punching above our pay grade a
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little bit, despite them having
a, you know, a bad record
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freshman.
Yeah.
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And then, you know, this week we
play down a little bit and way
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down in terms of overall talent.
And it's r at the point now
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where you know, we are what our
record is, regardless of What
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we're doing on the field, two
and seven all day long.
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We will not go to a bowl for the
first time since 1992.
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If you count 20, 20, 20, 20 the
team was Bowl eligible.
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You can go into that story all
day if they voted not to, or the
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coaches voted not to or
whatever, but it is what it is.
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And Brian something we had not
seen since ODU crept, his head
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back in, and the offense.
Turns the ball over four times
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during the game and you with the
pain I started talking about it.
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Brian pulls up the place, she
Curtis.
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It's not just that we gave the
ball away four times.
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Oh no we didn't just give the
ball away.
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We gave the ball away on ours on
the other team side of the
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field.
Every time I mean this this will
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these are Drive killing Point
surrendering turnovers.
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We're not just talking about you
know we gave the ball away or oh
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we had a first down and then we
gave the ball away know, we are
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in a tour on the doorstep of
scoring.
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Every time, we're giving the
ball away.
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Three of the four times.
The first one was early, we
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fumbled at the Georgia Tech 22
and we know will Ross.
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All year had been making field
goals from that range, but
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you're driving and immediately,
you were like three points.
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Just go ahead and book that
three points off the board.
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And that sort of, you know, it
set the tone for the early first
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quarter because Georgia Tech
jumps, all up, gets up, to
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nothing.
And then, for the next roughly,
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Re and a half quarters 3/4.
Everything kind of went the
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Hokies way.
The Hokies would score 28 of the
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next math right here. 28 of the
next 34 points.
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Yeah right.
Yeah, because we went up or 27
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or 3327 of the next 33.
Yep, we have the next 33 points
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and you roll into the fourth
quarter.
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You got to lead and you know
let's talk about the fumble at
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the 10-yard line because I made
a note here to myself, I wanted
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to when we stopped them on that
fourth down and I'm listening to
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it again.
I don't get RSN but I love Bill
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and Mike so there's nothing
better than to sit in.
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Car or have the earbuds in and
listen to them call the game.
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And we get that ball and I'm
like be aggressive like right to
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me right there and we were with
the gate.
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Well, the Ron's I mean we were
running the ball consistently,
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but I was sitting there and I'm
like, you have them on the heels
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Derek's.
Probably expecting you to try to
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eat the clock one shot.
Just like one shot.
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Get Caleb rotate.
Get that safety to move over
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when we did, but you know,
that's okay.
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We got down inside the 10 yard
line.
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And then we fumble the ball.
And right there.
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If if we don't fumble it all
it's a chip shot and if 14-point
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lead in a game decided by point
where they only scored 13,
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excuse me.
Yeah. 14 in the last, you know,
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couple minutes there.
Yeah.
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And it's one of those things
where we had the momentum we
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were we were we were pushing
them.
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We were pushing, we were pushing
them.
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And, you know, I know it's not
a, it's not a garbage play.
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I know, it was legitimate, we
gash and we gash them.
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Georgia Tech's defensive tackle
goes down with a shoulder front
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shoulder injury.
Pulls the guys off the field.
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For two to three minutes, we get
back on the field.
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Very first play is the fumble
and so it's like as soon as soon
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as that as soon as we had the
momentum taken away from us
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there for a second, the
composer's lost and then as soon
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as that fumble happened it felt
like here we go again here and
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again and it's like that the
person that can't finish just
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takes the air out and
immediately they go on that big
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90-yard drive and it stunk but I
Ask you this.
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Okay, so it comes out of that.
We run the ball again.
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Are you okay with that?
Because clearly, you're at the
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10-yard line.
Again, I'll push for it again,
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aggressiveness.
I to me, I think right there.
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Don't you feel like they're just
going to key in on the run?
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It doesn't there?
So I have no problem with that
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because it's a first down run.
Okay.
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And he gets, he would have
gotten see all yards.
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Oh yeah, he had to get for 26
yards on that run in your down
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even closer.
To the goal line.
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I mean, it's a way tional.
You got to know ball protection.
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Trumps everything that goes up
stage in the game well and then
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obviously, you know, they go and
score cut it to a five point
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lead at that point in time.
Yep.
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Yeah, five-point lead.
And then we're driving again,
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we're on their side of the field
and Grant Wheels, throws an
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interception.
They subsequently take that one
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would take it down and that
would be them with the go-ahead
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touchdown.
And once again, you're right on
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the doorstep, the field goal
range is so many different
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things and like this team,
continuously just shoots its
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foot off every week.
Now, in some way, shape or form,
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and in, as a fan, it's
disheartening.
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I mean, the only upside, I
continue to hear is at least,
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it's not And I know some people
will laugh and say at least I
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don't have to hear about
execution all the time.
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At least I hear coaches, at
least I hear Brent price.
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A, it's on me as a coach to make
this right versus because there
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was nothing more infuriating
last three years, especially for
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years.
Well, it's the execution of the
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game when, you know, we know, we
know, we know you got to
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execute, I mean, but what if and
in there?
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So maybe that's the thing, is
that, you know, Obviously, some
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of this is on the players, and
we had that discussion last week
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and we continue and we'll talk
about it again a little bit this
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week.
You know, what's on the players?
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What's on the coaches?
What's on, kind of a shared
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responsibility, but at least
we're getting the right things.
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After the fact, I think the fan
base in general is just kind of
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we're a pathetic.
We, we haven't gotten a win in
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so long.
It's, you know, it kind of is
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what it is.
At this point last time we gotta
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win, it was 87, Degrees outside
and still humidity in the air.
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And now we're sitting this
weekend.
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It's going to be what 60s 60s
beautiful fall weather down in
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Durham as we talk about Know The
Enemy later.
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Couple other things.
Obviously something we missed a
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40-yard field goal because of
the paths.
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Now we have sucks because when
it's a one-point game you just
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you start coming up all the
points, right?
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Brian.
It's like 3 plus 3 plus 3,
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there's nine.
It's a touchdown win.
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If you don't fumble the ball,
you punch it in, you beat them
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by 10, and that's where you,
that's where one thing is again,
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if you score the touchdown, even
though inside the 10, the game
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is over.
The game is over.
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Because they're going to be
pressing, let's just and then
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obviously, we'll talk about
Tucker Hollow in the while.
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Hell of a return late in the
game, we're almost at Midfield
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and with 50 seconds, left in
college football, two first
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downs, get you to field goal
range stops, the clock, gives
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you time pride and kick a field
goal and grout.
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Well, fumbles the ball, his
third turnover of the day.
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And in, that just seems what it
was right great opportunities.
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Every single one squandered and,
and is much as, as much as we
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talk about the missed
opportunities, I still feel like
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I look at this game.
This is, we played a bad defense
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and somehow we only got just a
little over 300 yards.
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We only scored 13 points, only
scored 13 points.
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That is a and some of this is Is
again, when you look at it, the
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missed opportunities, true
thousand percent because, you
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know, so we had the points, I
wouldn't, you wouldn't have a
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big gripe about the points that
the offense scored.
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If they had finished the drives
that they got into scoring range
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because it would have been as
you don't.
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You did at least be plus 9.
Yeah.
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You just execute in the red area
or just outside the red area.
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Very true, very, very minimum
plus 9.
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None of them.
The plus sign then in the plus
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22.
But that's not the way it goes.
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Now we did hit that three and a
half number, you talked about.
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So we did effectively run the
ball, Grant Wells, ran the ball
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a lot, but so to keep probably
more than I would have liked to
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from.
I would have like I've been
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asking as a fake hand, as
effective as King was for most
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of the game.
He could have easily given me at
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least five more carries and that
that probably puts him just just
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north of 100.
Other sets that on Saturday was
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just converting 33 percent.
On third down.
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I mean yeah.
It's the only upside was we got
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you mentioned it to me.
We would get a couple first
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downs.
Then we would go then we would
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go to third down, not get it.
So maybe again the Silver
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Linings we keep talking about
well at least this against a bad
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defense we actually didn't just
go three and out all the time.
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We move the ball occasionally
but again that's not good enough
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against a deep against its
competition right now.
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Competition is not good.
In its struggles, its struggles
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with things if it's just odd.
I mean, I know we had, we had
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big plays against NC State that
made that look probably better
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offensive ly than yeah, score
wise than it did, in terms of
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executions drive-by Drive.
Yeah, this one.
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We were a little bit better
drive by drive but we, when we
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weren't moving it into scoring
range, we weren't Moving it at
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all.
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So is that your that juxtapose
that so is that a couple of your
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bright spots on?
Yeah, yeah.
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I mean, I think if, when you
look at bright spots, more
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sustained drives this week.
And again, probably the best
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rushing game since pit.
That's two things positive that
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you can glean from this this
effort.
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I mean, but then, you know, back
more false start penalties for.
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So how many does that make in
the last two weeks?
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More than we should ever have a
member for should be a Max in
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the game because it's yeah, he
get it.
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I think 44 is an improvement.
Yeah.
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But good Lord we set the
standard.
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Absolutely atrocious when you
have 10.
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I think I've hit the wall this
week because I like I can't I
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can't find bright spots this
week.
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I can't.
I look at it.
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And I can't find any bright
spots.
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I'm almost crusty.
You know, I do you know that or
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the oh, I got nothing dip so
nothing.
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I can filch not us.
It's nah, I have nothing anymore
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for the offense because it's
it's continue.
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Its one it's I think it's 120
now, total where significantly
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lower?
I want to say like 108 scoring,
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it's nothing there and I think
it's more of the frustrating
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points of You give me a little
bit and then it just looks bad.
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Give me a little bit looks bad,
like be consistent.
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Could you just be bad one game?
I mean, just be atrocious.
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One game, kick a field goal.
Get nothing else.
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At least I can say, well, at
least we're just bad versus, you
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know, for the second and third
quarters, you know, we were okay
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but as yeah, it is.
Yeah.
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Um, let's flip over to we put
it, we put another two quarters
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together this time instead of
just the one, there you go.
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All right, let's flip over to
defense and I think I think this
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was the worst game of the
season.
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What about you considering the
quality of opponent the yards?
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And Surrendered I'd say yeah I'd
say that.
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Yeah that's probably the worst
overall effort from the defense
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this year.
Yeah.
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And in case you didn't look at
the stat lines, we gave up over
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200 rushing over 250 passing to
pyron the man that Brian said,
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if Sims didn't go, we should
see.
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And we did see him and he's a
freshman, of course, but it's
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more of just the average is,
right?
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I'm an average is person.
I look at average as a ton
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because we're you Annette from
averages kind of Indica dates
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your performance and for us that
we this is a this is an office.
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It was barely putting up 300
yards, he put a 450.
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This was an offense that was
barely barely getting 16 points
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a game and they put up 28 And
you know, that's what that's
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what gets me is.
I look at the average.
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If it's a, if it's a 10 to 15
percent increase, whether
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scoring or yard, that's fine
because weird things happen in
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games.
But when it's that much and I
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mean, it's legitimately 50%
increase across all lines.
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That's just uncalled for.
And it just says, you know, what
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was going on with the defense on
Yeah, it's really, I mean you
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look at the the Tate.
I mean, it was really a bad
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opening quarter and a bad fourth
quarter.
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I mean there wasn't a whole lot
of yard surrendered in the
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middle there where they had a
couple drives that got a door
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near the 50.
But for the most part it was was
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a good second and third quarter.
It was just really really bad
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kind of on the bookends there in
those drives weren't like
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60-yard drives.
They were 90s in 75.
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They were big truck.
Yeah they were big drives me
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nuts.
You take away the drive that
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where they got three too close.
Half.
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Yeah, they really did a pretty
good job in the second third
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quarter.
Yeah.
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And I'll say this of all the
times this year, I've been upset
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a lot of thing.
I think this is the first time
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I've been upset with prize play
calls because on that, third and
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19.
After they sacked Byron, and
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there in his face and say what
you will, he didn't know what
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the hell to do.
He did not know what to do with
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five and six coming after him.
We take a timeout.
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And we run a two-man under.
Thank you, Brian for that
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information.
Three-man rush, we Spy vs
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attacking, it makes no sense
because if you attack at least
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that ball has to come out really
quick where he got if you count,
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it was about, he got three
seconds with McCullum came
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across Very second where have
you been blitzing six.
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He has second and a half in that
band sword is still been in
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McCullum said, pocket.
I don't get that plagued us
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since the first time I was
really like, what are you doing?
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We saw the script NC State.
We saw the script with down and
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distance, and NC State, and the
same thing happened.
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So when you look at it, too by
being able to hold it that long,
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he was able to let The receiver
kind of used the referee is a
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pit.
Yep so delaying had to go over
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the top of the ref gave up
probably a another few yards of
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cushion there.
Now.
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Now you know you're talking
about instead of him getting
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there and probably it being
fourth and four or five, you
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know, you get the first down,
it's true.
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And if its fourth and four or
five, number one you got a
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better chance of getting this.
And fourth, if they go for
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number two, they might punt.
They had been conservative with
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upon all game, they might would
upon it from that position, so
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very true, it they may, or they
may not have on at that point
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and but we'll never know.
Right?
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We'll never know.
Because to me, we ran the wrong
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coverage.
We put so, for what they did, I
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mean, it was the perfect play
against the defense.
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That was called It just was that
I mean they got into the right
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play.
I don't know whether that was
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the play they had before they
call the timeout or not.
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Yeah.
But but they got into the right
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call for the defense that we
were in.
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Yep.
All right.
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Now there were a true, you know,
is as mad as I am and it's
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crusty.
As I want to be, there were two
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young guys who absolutely lashed
and obviously, let's talk about
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the first Tucker.
Holloway In the punt return
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game, holy crap, did he blow up?
You know, he goes in, he breaks
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the Virginia Tech all-time
record and it's like you sit
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here and you think about
everybody that did it right?
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Brian.
Yeah, I mean we've had some, I
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mean, we're not like Miami in
terms of elite punt returners,
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but we're up there.
We're up there, but we are not
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garbage and it's like, you know,
he goes up there and he
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obviously the 90-yard house
call, which was just Beautiful
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way of setting up him, finding
the lanes moving and then turn
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on his Jets, but 188 yards.
He averaged 27 and it was every
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time and then, you know, he got
a chance, you know, leading the
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gave us a chance to get in the
you'll arrange to win the game,
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he did, and that's on top of
already scoring a touchdown on
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top of scoring a touchdown on
top of flipping the field on
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numerous occasions.
Yeah and now it's the question
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of and we'll talk about it.
We're going to we're going to
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kind of cut the recap a little
short because with three games
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We got some things we want to
talk about tonight but we'll
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talk about him and the potential
red shirt and a few time in a
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few minutes here.
The other young got the kalai
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loss.
Oh my God, he jumped the shit
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out of that route.
Holy moly.
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Oh yeah, jumped it and had the
wherewithal to secure it and get
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taken to the end zone to.
So he's flashing more and more
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and he's struggled in the first
quarter and then he turned it on
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the from there, on out.
Yeah, he had a really good rest
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of his birthday game.
Rest of the game, I mean, and
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that's Christian young guys,
flash like that.
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I mean, that at least gives you
hope of things to come.
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But, you know, like I said, it's
difficult trying to trying to
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pick out the Silver Linings here
with with so many straight
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losses and two back-to-back in
devastating fashion.
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Yeah, let's talk about this
Brian.
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You know, someone we know in a
tweet that he made on Saturday
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afternoon As Don be the response
was someone out there.
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Put out, 20 would have this team
at least four and four or at
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least five and four.
For something like that.
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And Don made the comment, the
person who made that, you're
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absolutely right, he's right?
But it goes back to the car
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analogy and that is a car can be
beat to shit where you gotta
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fuck with the ignition.
Gotta give it some gas.
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You don't take off too fast at
the stoplights.
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So yes the owner of that car
knows how to drive it but if he
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gave it to you or me, we
wouldn't be able to get five
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inches.
And I loved that.
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I loved on these analogy there
because yeah, I think we would
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be 45 wins with Justin for went
into him right now.
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Because he knew how to run this
car.
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Yep.
And I sit here, and I think a
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lot of people are still very
bullish on Brent price.
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I know some people are saying
all this doesn't look good.
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Just doesn't look good, but it
ain't like we're far.
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It's not like every game is a
three touchdown launch, right?
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Yeah.
I mean, we're not out there
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getting smoked, we're out there
still competing.
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We're just doing a whole Lot
wrong to stop the any progress
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that we can make in this, in
towards winning more games.
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And we're seeing that happen,
consistently, it's the, you
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know, one step up two steps
back.
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It's shoot yourself in the foot.
There's just, there's so much
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that, like I said, when you find
the silver linings there there,
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but it's hard to feel the Silver
Lining when you're in the midst
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of losing.
So many games in a row, We by
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the way, I just got a message
here.
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The Know The Enemy.
This is from foul, some way we
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communicate with on Twitter.
Lat the Know The Enemy should be
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the Hokies this week because we
were going to royally screw
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ourselves in some way this week
against Duke that was very cool
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to see.
Yep.
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Right guys the the all those
guys from 2023 with that video,
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Even after the loss was very
cool to see that and we still
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had a bunch of bunch of recruits
on the sidelines.
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You got a preferred walk-on,
commit, close out the weekend.
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So I mean, there were some
positives in terms of long-term,
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to kind of take away from
everything.
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But again, it's hard to hard to
feel that when you're in the,
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when you're in, we're in the
thick of things that's very
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true.
So let's flip it, Brian.
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Because normally, we'd still be
talking more data points, plays
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and all that stuff.
But we were going to sit here
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and let's talk.
Talk about what we want to see
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the last 3 weeks.
And what we want to see.
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Now, the one thing That I
listened to the presser today
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on.
Good evening Levar.
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As always, we appreciate you
joining us.
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I listened literally to so many
interviews on time and a half
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now and every podcast is on at
least time in a quarter.
435
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Yeah that got to get it in there
but a thing that brings prai
436
00:27:42,300 --> 00:27:45,200
mentioned and I want to ask you
is this something you guys did
437
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,400
potentially back. 20 years ago
was he's been mentioning.
438
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:52,400
They've been doing developmental
scrimmages about 20 plays every
439
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,900
Sunday have guys who are not
playing at all.
440
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,500
What are your thoughts on that
and is that something you seen
441
00:27:58,500 --> 00:28:06,600
in the past?
We didn't see that a lot at hand
442
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:11,300
instead me, so that's something
kind of new in my realm but it
443
00:28:11,300 --> 00:28:14,400
kind of makes sense for two
reasons.
444
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:18,700
Number one, you look at the
overall Talent on this roster,
445
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,300
add to that.
Some of the, the veteran
446
00:28:21,300 --> 00:28:24,600
leadership that is departing
this roster at the end of the
447
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,700
season.
So when you look at that, we're
448
00:28:27,700 --> 00:28:31,500
going to need as many young guys
are stepping Of this year we're
449
00:28:31,500 --> 00:28:34,100
going to need just as many
stepping up next year.
450
00:28:34,500 --> 00:28:39,200
Absolutely.
And some of these guys are
451
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,700
full-on coach pry guys.
And some of these guys are still
452
00:28:43,500 --> 00:28:46,000
still learning the ropes and
still guys that were recruited
453
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,500
by Justin Fuente.
So I think some of that is, hey,
454
00:28:49,500 --> 00:28:51,900
we're going to need you next
year.
455
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,600
I think some of this is a way to
get guys acclimated and say, hey
456
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,800
you're going to be a part of
what we're doing next year.
457
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,200
Try to deter some of the The
portal jumpers and things like
458
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,000
that, as we kind of close out
the year.
459
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:05,700
Got it?
Alright, sounds good.
460
00:29:05,700 --> 00:29:08,100
Well, let's, let's jump in.
Let's talk next week.
461
00:29:08,100 --> 00:29:11,100
What we want to see on offense
and it's quarterback.
462
00:29:11,100 --> 00:29:13,500
I just do this for on because I
don't know what the hell we
463
00:29:13,500 --> 00:29:15,000
should do.
What do you think?
464
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:23,700
I think I think you're at a
Crossroads because I think we've
465
00:29:23,700 --> 00:29:26,700
seen we know what we're getting
from Wells.
466
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,000
And I think a lot of this
depends on where the coaches are
467
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:35,100
in the process.
If the coaches think that Wells
468
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:40,500
is going to need to be one way
or the other kind of the answer
469
00:29:40,500 --> 00:29:45,300
the next two years.
God help us, but at the same
470
00:29:45,300 --> 00:29:48,600
time that You don't, you don't
pull a guy if he, if he's gonna
471
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,100
be your guy.
The next two years.
472
00:29:50,100 --> 00:29:55,400
Now, if you're out, or if you
want a full Lon, you know,
473
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,800
whether you bring in a transfer,
whether you work with some of
474
00:29:57,808 --> 00:30:00,400
the young guys, if you're gonna
have a full-on open competition
475
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,500
again, next year, then it's time
to play somebody else.
476
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:08,300
The only threat of that is that
if you know, if the team
477
00:30:08,300 --> 00:30:13,700
perceives Wells as the best
opportunity to win games, does
478
00:30:13,700 --> 00:30:15,800
that lose your locker room in
the short term?
479
00:30:15,900 --> 00:30:18,900
I'm with the coach saying, hey,
we're building for the Future
480
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,200
these last three games of these
last three games.
481
00:30:22,100 --> 00:30:25,700
So, does you know?
And that's kind of what I think
482
00:30:25,700 --> 00:30:30,500
a coach has to weigh when you
start throwing in young guys,
483
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,700
just for the Reps or just to see
what you got.
484
00:30:34,700 --> 00:30:37,000
I think that that's the risk
that you run is that you might
485
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,500
lose the locker room especially
for some of the veterans or some
486
00:30:40,500 --> 00:30:42,900
of the guys that are, you know,
that's still have some
487
00:30:42,900 --> 00:30:46,900
eligibility left but you know
are a little Higher up in terms
488
00:30:46,900 --> 00:30:49,300
of their time but in Blacksburg.
Yeah.
489
00:30:49,300 --> 00:30:52,100
I mean in private Mansion like
you want to, you want to respect
490
00:30:52,100 --> 00:30:55,100
your seniors, but you also kind
of know you've got to let some
491
00:30:55,100 --> 00:30:58,100
of these young guys.
See the field feel that live
492
00:30:58,100 --> 00:31:02,000
game action and as far as
quarterback, you know, if you
493
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,400
say he's the guy the next two
years then, okay.
494
00:31:04,700 --> 00:31:10,100
You bet they're going to have to
nail At least two starting
495
00:31:10,100 --> 00:31:13,200
offensive lineman, you're going
to have to starting offensive
496
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,400
lineman, you're gonna have to
eat, at least, at least one wide
497
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,600
receiver, three three, you've
got to get to proving got
498
00:31:20,700 --> 00:31:21,600
running back.
It's fine.
499
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,000
It's just, you got to find a way
to keep Malachi and actually,
500
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,300
let's flip to that running back
room.
501
00:31:27,500 --> 00:31:29,000
Malachi's doubtful again this
week.
502
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,000
I think, right now, if you're
Brent Pioneer that stabbed you
503
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,500
just looking at all the kind say
you're clearly injured again.
504
00:31:35,700 --> 00:31:40,100
We're shutting you down.
Going into more of a slow rehab
505
00:31:40,100 --> 00:31:41,600
to get.
You ready for winter?
506
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,800
Workouts in Spring ball next
year, at this point.
507
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,800
You playing doesn't doesn't help
us nothing, it doesn't help him,
508
00:31:50,100 --> 00:31:53,100
it doesn't then help him does it
honestly help Malachi Thomas
509
00:31:53,100 --> 00:31:57,200
coming off of an injury.
And showing what's up cap?
510
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,800
He showed me back.
Please chao-li back potential,
511
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:01,400
he's going to be the lead back
next year.
512
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,800
So yes.
Well, and we need to get up.
513
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:08,000
He's got another, it's offseason
in this strength and
514
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:12,400
conditioning program, go into
spring, and fall fully healthy,
515
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:17,300
and be ready to contribute.
Yeah, and the other thing is, as
516
00:32:17,300 --> 00:32:21,500
far as he goes, he's already
shown that with a significant
517
00:32:21,500 --> 00:32:25,400
injury, he can bounce back in
immediately, be ready to play.
518
00:32:26,700 --> 00:32:29,600
When he stepped on that foot,
that field after he had been out
519
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,000
with the with the leg injury, he
immediately showed he could
520
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,000
play.
So I think we know you can do
521
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,300
this.
Let's be smart about it.
522
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,600
So I do think the next couple
weeks, even though, I think he
523
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,100
got Banger, the end of the game
you're looking at King as your
524
00:32:44,100 --> 00:32:47,500
lead back.
And obviously, do can black have
525
00:32:47,500 --> 00:32:49,600
been getting their chances?
Continue to give them their
526
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,200
chances.
They have been playing special
527
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,600
teams and I think maybe, you
know you just somebody like
528
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:59,800
Kenji Christian Some potential
run during the game because he's
529
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:04,300
already redshirted yeah he
hasn't he hasn't played any of
530
00:33:04,300 --> 00:33:07,500
this year.
It's one of those maybe you
531
00:33:07,500 --> 00:33:13,300
carve out a series you say if we
get to this score you're in I
532
00:33:13,300 --> 00:33:15,200
don't know.
I just I think again I want to
533
00:33:15,208 --> 00:33:17,700
see guys what they do on the
field.
534
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,100
Kind of like we've seen Bryce
Juke.
535
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,800
We've seen Bryce to be decisive
and his runs.
536
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,300
We've seen him be able to catch
passes in assistant special
537
00:33:25,300 --> 00:33:28,000
teams.
We don't know his ceiling.
538
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,500
But right now, I think me and
you can comfortably say with
539
00:33:30,500 --> 00:33:36,800
Bryce Duke He has he has a what
do I don't call it.
540
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,000
He has a contributor potential
next.
541
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,700
Yeah.
Sandwiches.
542
00:33:41,700 --> 00:33:44,500
Black chance black shown that he
can help him special teams.
543
00:33:44,500 --> 00:33:48,200
I think he's learning his way
around as a running back, but
544
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,500
again, contributor in some way,
we don't know Christian, if he
545
00:33:51,500 --> 00:33:55,300
is where he is yet and I think
that's what I would like to find
546
00:33:55,300 --> 00:33:58,600
out about it.
Yeah, I'm with you, especially
547
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,800
on Duke.
I think we need to get him as
548
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,100
much of a role.
The next three games as we can,
549
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,699
what black does whether it's
heavier or lighter than what
550
00:34:10,699 --> 00:34:15,000
he's been doing, the whole year
kind of it is what it is, he's
551
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,100
right.
You know, he's already had a
552
00:34:17,100 --> 00:34:21,800
redshirt year.
I think he's ready to you know
553
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:26,600
stay in that contributor role.
So Yeah, and when we look at
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00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,900
Christian, you know he's the one
that we don't really know a
555
00:34:29,908 --> 00:34:34,600
whole lot about know, you know,
he slid kind of up and down the
556
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:40,199
depth chart in Spring and fall.
So I don't really know what to
557
00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:45,000
make of what his role will be
with this team going into the
558
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,199
off season, if you can get him
some time to where he where he
559
00:34:48,199 --> 00:34:50,500
can maybe show out.
Then maybe at least will kind of
560
00:34:50,500 --> 00:34:53,699
know where he stands there.
All right.
561
00:34:55,300 --> 00:34:57,600
What do you think about the wide
receiver tight in room?
562
00:34:59,900 --> 00:35:04,200
I mean, at this point outside of
Caleb, you might as well go full
563
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:08,400
youth movement, give me more
Gosnell.
564
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,900
Give me more Moss, give me more
Jones.
565
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,500
Let's see Holloway lineup at
wide out and we're going to go
566
00:35:15,500 --> 00:35:20,800
start arguments again because he
was already advised.
567
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,700
He's playing this week.
If he plays this week that's for
568
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:29,300
until you not get him, the last
two weeks, I am on the train of
569
00:35:29,300 --> 00:35:32,800
you trying at wide receiver just
to get in the Reps, just to see
570
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,900
it.
Well, I think he's shown obvious
571
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,900
special teams.
He's Dynamic, right?
572
00:35:40,900 --> 00:35:43,100
Upper upper echelon.
Special team.
573
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,600
Yeah.
He's Dynamic on special teams.
574
00:35:46,700 --> 00:35:50,700
And that's an area that we have
struggled mightily with all
575
00:35:50,700 --> 00:35:52,400
years.
So he immediately gives you a
576
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:58,200
boost in that area.
So I say let's get him some more
577
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,500
reps a whiteout.
See if he can give us a boost in
578
00:36:00,500 --> 00:36:05,000
those areas as well.
I say if that means burning the
579
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,300
red shirt, then burn the red
shirt by the burn, the red
580
00:36:08,300 --> 00:36:10,100
shirt.
Some people are saying don't
581
00:36:10,100 --> 00:36:13,700
burn the word shirt, we might
need him much later in his
582
00:36:13,700 --> 00:36:17,500
career.
My point is, if it's if it's
583
00:36:17,500 --> 00:36:24,000
year 5 of pressure, Holloway's
career and Brent prize tenure
584
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,200
and we need Tucker.
Holloway in order to have a
585
00:36:27,207 --> 00:36:31,100
competitive wide receiver room.
We've got bigger problems than a
586
00:36:31,100 --> 00:36:35,400
burnt red shirt.
All right, let's talk about
587
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,200
this.
I think the other guys, they've
588
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,600
already burned them, just let
them play.
589
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,900
Let Them rip, especially if
you're potentially saying, see,
590
00:36:43,900 --> 00:36:46,800
I think starting Wells.
You, he still could be in a
591
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,600
battle next year.
You're just saying, you want to
592
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,900
wrap them with guys who are here
and give you the best chance for
593
00:36:52,900 --> 00:36:55,800
those guys to succeed and
potentially not lose a locker
594
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,700
room.
Tight end room.
595
00:36:58,700 --> 00:37:01,200
I think Harrison st.
Germain was used very early.
596
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:05,700
We have not seen him since West
Virginia they're clearly
597
00:37:05,700 --> 00:37:09,600
redshirting him.
But what what what do you think
598
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,500
about?
I think I know where you're
599
00:37:11,500 --> 00:37:16,600
going to go with this but what
they can write as many reps as
600
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,400
possible.
As many snaps as possible.
601
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,900
All right.
So is he completely taken the
602
00:37:22,900 --> 00:37:26,800
Drake role?
I think he fully takes the Drake
603
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,400
role in whatever, hybrid roll.
We've got for Connor.
604
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,700
I think he occasionally, we'll
take some of the snaps that you
605
00:37:34,700 --> 00:37:36,700
would give to Gala you give it
to right.
606
00:37:37,100 --> 00:37:38,700
All right, because his Rush
church burned.
607
00:37:38,700 --> 00:37:41,700
It was his fifth game last week
against Georgia Tech where he
608
00:37:41,700 --> 00:37:46,800
got zero targets but he played
one target zero receptions.
609
00:37:46,900 --> 00:37:50,000
One target, excuse me.
I'm it was thrown it was he was
610
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,500
thrown it, he had double
coverage on him and he got a
611
00:37:52,500 --> 00:37:54,600
Target.
That was his only target, all
612
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,600
right.
So hit Brian's basically saying
613
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,800
get Daquan right?
Absolutely fully prepared for
614
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,400
his roles next year of doing
everything.
615
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,100
So got it.
Let's flip to the offensive
616
00:38:07,100 --> 00:38:10,400
line.
The big one that I had on here
617
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,500
that kind of got kibosh today
while I listened to the press
618
00:38:13,500 --> 00:38:15,000
conference.
That's unfortunate.
619
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,800
Was I was like, let's let
praising more out.
620
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,800
Snap Jesse Hansen, Brent pride
comes up.
621
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,200
Nope, they are preserving his
red shirt and Why do you think
622
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,600
that is?
I mean, he clearly offers in the
623
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,600
Run game, especially he offers a
hell of a lot more Hanson.
624
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,900
I know you said it.
You said it to me.
625
00:38:34,900 --> 00:38:37,600
You said it on here.
He's learning how to pass Pro.
626
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,400
But why?
But why hold it by, why not?
627
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:41,800
Just let him play and learn
more.
628
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:49,300
Because it I think if we need
any area for long-term depth its
629
00:38:49,300 --> 00:38:54,800
offensive line and if we think
we have a multi year starter and
630
00:38:54,800 --> 00:39:00,100
Braylon more, then I think that
that's that's the right move
631
00:39:00,100 --> 00:39:02,300
here, especially if in the short
term.
632
00:39:02,300 --> 00:39:06,200
He's not giving you a
significant boost over Jesse.
633
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:10,200
Obviously, he's not there are
areas where he is deficient or
634
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,800
we would see him in the game
full time right now.
635
00:39:13,700 --> 00:39:16,400
He wouldn't just be a guy that's
in there on certain packages or
636
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,900
certain series.
He'd be a full-time player right
637
00:39:18,900 --> 00:39:21,300
now.
So, there's obviously a reason
638
00:39:21,300 --> 00:39:25,300
that Jesse Hansen still in
there, give more another year of
639
00:39:25,300 --> 00:39:30,300
development.
I'm taking the opposite point of
640
00:39:30,300 --> 00:39:33,600
view here because there's not a
significant boost in that area.
641
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,600
Right.
At least in the short term that
642
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,800
I know in the short term yet.
I just to me I'm one that would
643
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:45,200
say I see him run block and he
is, he's an 85 and run block
644
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:49,000
Jesse's a 75.
He's like a 16 past Road Jesse's
645
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:53,500
a 75.
So it's they even out, but
646
00:39:54,100 --> 00:39:57,300
Jesse's you can just say,
Jesse's average.
647
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:03,800
In both where he significantly,
he's a D in the past for.
648
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,300
So I get what you're saying
there.
649
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:13,000
What about its Center?
I think we got to get Holly feel
650
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,400
in there at some point just to
see what we have, whether that's
651
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:23,200
in It's hard right now because
you still want to try to win
652
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:28,200
games, there's no, there's no,
there's no honor and just
653
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,300
getting guys in there to get
guys in there, you're still
654
00:40:30,300 --> 00:40:34,700
trying to win the game, so you
can only do but so much when it
655
00:40:34,700 --> 00:40:39,500
comes to Center because that is
kind of the the brain of the
656
00:40:39,500 --> 00:40:44,700
ovens of wine.
So, that's probably the one
657
00:40:44,700 --> 00:40:48,200
position.
Not only just because I have no
658
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:54,500
idea what I have in jacked but
also because I know it least
659
00:40:55,300 --> 00:40:58,300
bottom line when I'm going to
get out of Johnny every game.
660
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:03,200
It's a little bit harder but I'd
like to see them get at least a
661
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,100
maybe a handful of series for
him in the next three games.
662
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,000
Well, since the thing, I'm more
worried about than anything is
663
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,900
the next year and Johnny joins.
Not coming back.
664
00:41:12,100 --> 00:41:15,600
He's fully exhausted everything.
And you're going in with your
665
00:41:15,900 --> 00:41:17,500
somebody just scored a touchdown
behind me.
666
00:41:17,500 --> 00:41:19,700
I don't know who he did
something that up.
667
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,600
Nice run there, that John, he's
not coming back next year.
668
00:41:23,700 --> 00:41:28,700
And right now, your 3 potential
centers are Jack hollifield, who
669
00:41:28,700 --> 00:41:33,500
will be a red Sophomore.
Hunter who will be a redshirt
670
00:41:33,500 --> 00:41:36,100
freshman or Johnny.
Dixon will be a redshirt
671
00:41:36,100 --> 00:41:38,900
freshman.
To me.
672
00:41:38,900 --> 00:41:41,100
It's you talking about a handful
of Series.
673
00:41:41,700 --> 00:41:45,400
Yeah, I think I would say I'd be
comfortable because Jack's
674
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,400
already burned his Redshirt.
He's at least been playing a ton
675
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:52,200
on special teams so he's at
least seeing game action.
676
00:41:52,900 --> 00:41:59,200
But I'd say to, I would like to
say 12 series by the end of the
677
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:04,000
season, just because if he
struggles out there, snapping
678
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,700
the ball or like, okay, do we
need to go portal shopping?
679
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,600
Why we get Jack acclimated next
year?
680
00:42:11,100 --> 00:42:13,200
I think we're going portal
shopping for a center
681
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,000
regardless.
I think your point might be
682
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,300
moot, obviously, we still got a
land that Center.
683
00:42:18,900 --> 00:42:22,800
Yes.
But, you know, that's kind of my
684
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,300
thought there but yeah, it'd be
good to know at least when she
685
00:42:26,300 --> 00:42:30,100
have to a point.
I just don't know.
686
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:36,100
I don't foresee us being out of
any of these remaining games.
687
00:42:36,100 --> 00:42:39,100
Even though I think we
potentially We could lose all
688
00:42:39,100 --> 00:42:41,100
three of them, we could
potentially win all three of
689
00:42:41,100 --> 00:42:46,200
them but I don't see us being
blown out in any of these games.
690
00:42:46,700 --> 00:42:49,700
I got you.
I got you guys so I don't, I
691
00:42:49,700 --> 00:42:51,900
don't know if you'll have an
opportunity where you feel
692
00:42:51,900 --> 00:42:56,700
comfortable as an offense
saying, hey let's just throw red
693
00:42:56,700 --> 00:43:01,800
shirt freshman and it's a center
Center and see and see what we
694
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,500
got here.
Especially that down down, three
695
00:43:05,500 --> 00:43:08,100
in the fourth quarter.
True true.
696
00:43:08,300 --> 00:43:09,400
True true.
All right.
697
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:13,500
So what about kind of the rest
of the young guys?
698
00:43:13,500 --> 00:43:19,600
You know, I mentioned Dixon and
McClain Meadows, chaplain, do
699
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:23,100
you think they all get?
Is that a little easier than
700
00:43:23,100 --> 00:43:27,900
Center to give them some run?
It's easier because number one,
701
00:43:27,900 --> 00:43:32,000
I think we've seen other areas,
struggle more.
702
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:37,300
And I think we kind of know what
we can get from these other guys
703
00:43:37,300 --> 00:43:40,300
a little bit more at this. we
see Meadows in a game already
704
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:46,000
gamer to actually I think we've
seen some of the other guys I'd
705
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:52,300
like to see Chaplin because I
feel like Chaplin Could you give
706
00:43:52,300 --> 00:43:55,900
us a little something there?
You know, we saw Parker slide
707
00:43:55,900 --> 00:44:01,000
over to left tackle, some this
past week, whether chaplain
708
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:04,300
Works in it, left or right and
Parker slides over just to give
709
00:44:04,300 --> 00:44:06,100
a different look there.
I don't know.
710
00:44:06,100 --> 00:44:10,600
I know it sounds suicidal moving
a struggling, tackle over to
711
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:14,300
left instead of right but we
haven't been able to hide him
712
00:44:14,300 --> 00:44:15,800
it, right?
We might as well see what he can
713
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:16,800
do.
It left.
714
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:18,800
At least she can put somebody on
left.
715
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,700
Right?
I mean, You know, something to
716
00:44:21,700 --> 00:44:23,300
be done there.
All right.
717
00:44:23,300 --> 00:44:25,800
Let's flip over to defense,
Braun, and let's start out in
718
00:44:25,808 --> 00:44:28,800
the secondary because it has
been one of the brighter spots
719
00:44:29,700 --> 00:44:32,600
with strong out.
Again, I think strong is getting
720
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,600
a red shirt.
I think they've already had the
721
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:40,300
conversation with them and I
think it's one of those again so
722
00:44:40,300 --> 00:44:43,600
much of what's going on.
And who are seeing is, you know,
723
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:47,400
Braylon more can play to a level
that we know Dorian strong in,
724
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,400
Malachi can play the levels and
Dorian in this case a A lot
725
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,600
stronger.
It's almost just like, dude, get
726
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:56,900
healthy you going out here.
Does nothing for you in the long
727
00:44:56,900 --> 00:44:59,100
run?
Yep, in the long run.
728
00:44:59,100 --> 00:45:02,000
It does nothing for you.
You're going to be a redshirt
729
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,400
Junior next year.
It'll be your fourth year if you
730
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,900
have a breakout year, you lose
nothing, you move on.
731
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:12,700
If you have a great year, Yeah,
I mean I'm right there with you
732
00:45:12,700 --> 00:45:17,300
definitely Redshirt him.
I think we've looked at cam
733
00:45:17,300 --> 00:45:19,900
Johnson.
Now he's gotten in 42 games,
734
00:45:20,300 --> 00:45:24,700
pick another to that he can get
some run when he's healthy last
735
00:45:24,700 --> 00:45:26,400
two.
I think you've given this week
736
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,600
to get fully healed.
Yeah, I'm with that.
737
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,000
So and then you get Devin Alvis
in there.
738
00:45:33,700 --> 00:45:35,800
He's been mentioned.
Give him some run.
739
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,300
You know.
You got these guys that are
740
00:45:38,700 --> 00:45:41,700
showing they could contribute
early You give them the
741
00:45:41,700 --> 00:45:44,900
opportunity to contribute early
and when we flip over the
742
00:45:44,900 --> 00:45:49,000
linebackers, I mean, Tisdale
still has a covid year.
743
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:50,700
Does he decide to come back next
year?
744
00:45:50,700 --> 00:45:53,000
I hope so.
I think that's kind of where
745
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:58,500
we're looking at, because he's
shown that probably of everybody
746
00:45:58,500 --> 00:46:01,000
that's currently on the roster,
the best ability.
747
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:05,200
It will yes 100%.
And obviously, it took half a
748
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,400
season to get there between
everything.
749
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,300
He was dealing with with
eligibility thing.
750
00:46:09,300 --> 00:46:14,000
So, You know you hate to see
that because that that's
751
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,700
probably the area on defense
that we struggled to find
752
00:46:17,100 --> 00:46:21,500
consistency throughout the first
half of the Season 100% And we
753
00:46:21,500 --> 00:46:24,000
were basing.
Imagine but between young guys
754
00:46:24,100 --> 00:46:27,000
you know.
Yeah guys that have been on the
755
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:28,800
roster to hadn't seen a dog
time.
756
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,500
Things like that.
So we finally got some
757
00:46:30,500 --> 00:46:32,300
consistency once Tisdale was
back.
758
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:36,800
Yep, let me ask this because I
think Tisdale comes back.
759
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:38,900
Any chance Tisdale moves to
Mike.
760
00:46:42,100 --> 00:46:46,800
I don't think so.
All right I asked you because I
761
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:51,800
think it definitely moves to
Mike.
762
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,600
Okay.
Okay, alright so I was going to
763
00:46:54,607 --> 00:46:58,100
say in here but Johnson and
Keller and McDonald all get some
764
00:46:58,100 --> 00:47:00,100
run to.
So obviously if that's your
765
00:47:00,100 --> 00:47:03,200
feel, I still think you give
them some run, just to give them
766
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,400
or PT.
But what do we do about it?
767
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:09,000
Saying we've seen all three,
guys.
768
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:13,300
All three guys.
Can can play it.
769
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:20,300
They have various attributes.
They bring to the position.
770
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,500
I mean, do you try to leverage
them somewhere else?
771
00:47:23,500 --> 00:47:26,100
Or is it?
Or is it going to be one of
772
00:47:26,107 --> 00:47:30,300
those things?
Somebody you hate to say it but
773
00:47:30,300 --> 00:47:34,100
is there going to be maybe a
conversation where somebody is
774
00:47:34,100 --> 00:47:35,700
out the door?
Come December?
775
00:47:35,700 --> 00:47:42,100
Because You know, eventually to
me they've all been good similar
776
00:47:42,100 --> 00:47:49,700
reps and, you know, even axis,
I'll save this if that's what if
777
00:47:49,700 --> 00:47:52,000
not next year.
Definitely by the year after
778
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:58,900
that, that is lost in this job.
Yeah, so we'll say that and
779
00:47:58,900 --> 00:48:02,100
obviously Jenkins has shown, he
can play it at a high level as
780
00:48:02,100 --> 00:48:05,000
well.
Walker has shown depending on
781
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,900
matchups.
He does pretty good as well.
782
00:48:09,100 --> 00:48:14,500
So, you know, right now if
there's an odd man out, I'd say
783
00:48:14,500 --> 00:48:17,700
it's probably Walker because I
think Jenkins can hold it down
784
00:48:17,700 --> 00:48:20,600
until Lawson's ready to take it
over full-time.
785
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:28,400
Ok, I'm filming, let's flip next
last before we close this out
786
00:48:28,900 --> 00:48:32,600
and then go to one other piece
defensive line.
787
00:48:32,900 --> 00:48:36,500
It's really tough because a lot
of the younger guys are already
788
00:48:36,500 --> 00:48:39,100
playing.
Likely everybody.
789
00:48:39,100 --> 00:48:46,000
But garment returns, And I think
the bigger piece is if
790
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,900
everybody's back but Garbutt
there's really not really much
791
00:48:49,900 --> 00:48:52,200
snaps to go around.
You're going to let Garbutt
792
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,500
play.
I think just because garbage the
793
00:48:55,500 --> 00:48:59,700
best player we have on the line
but I guess I love my be, you're
794
00:48:59,700 --> 00:49:02,100
gonna get him.
The amount of snaps he needs to
795
00:49:02,100 --> 00:49:04,400
get whatever.
He can go, he's gonna go but
796
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,100
there's no.
But I look at the defensive line
797
00:49:07,100 --> 00:49:09,800
throughout the year and you can
you can tell me your opinion.
798
00:49:10,500 --> 00:49:14,200
There has not been any absolute
with the The West Virginia where
799
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:18,300
we got pushed around.
There's not been like atrocious
800
00:49:18,300 --> 00:49:22,700
line play at times.
It's been really good in most
801
00:49:22,700 --> 00:49:24,400
times.
It's been averaging slightly
802
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:28,500
above where you're like they're
developing you know, we Mario
803
00:49:28,500 --> 00:49:31,500
Kendricks has had has come on
strong lately, Benes.
804
00:49:31,500 --> 00:49:34,500
Continue to develop.
You know we've seen Nelson and
805
00:49:34,500 --> 00:49:38,500
McRae have moments like that's
the way I'm not getting.
806
00:49:38,500 --> 00:49:41,400
The only thing I'll say is that
we haven't the only thing I'll
807
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:45,400
say is we haven't had A lot of
success getting consistent
808
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,700
pressure with just four.
That's true.
809
00:49:47,700 --> 00:49:51,400
That, that would be my only big
critique of the unit, I think
810
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:55,000
overall, especially in the Run
game, they've held up pretty
811
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,900
well.
Night.
812
00:49:58,500 --> 00:50:01,900
Let's flip now and just talk
about some offseason moves.
813
00:50:01,900 --> 00:50:04,600
We'd like to see.
I think the first is obvious
814
00:50:06,100 --> 00:50:08,700
We've put a number on here of at
least a minimum of eight.
815
00:50:08,700 --> 00:50:12,100
Now, I still think the 12 to 15
that we've mentioned a couple
816
00:50:12,100 --> 00:50:14,900
times.
Should be it, but a minimum of
817
00:50:14,900 --> 00:50:20,200
eight to start backfilling.
If not more in the portal, I'd
818
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:21,800
like to see us hit at least,
double digits.
819
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,200
But 8 is the absolute minimum
that I feel yet.
820
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,300
Less than eight it.
I think me and you if we're less
821
00:50:27,300 --> 00:50:29,400
than eight.
I'm worried about next year.
822
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,300
Significantly worry.
And when we say worry, we're not
823
00:50:32,300 --> 00:50:35,300
talking scrapping to get six and
six.
824
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:40,200
Rapping to get three or four.
All right, let me ask this.
825
00:50:42,900 --> 00:50:45,600
And this kind of goes on for the
end of this year, too.
826
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:52,400
The last three games, should
Brent Pride, go ahead and give
827
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:56,500
the reins of the defense to
Chris Marv to start that better
828
00:50:56,500 --> 00:50:59,800
focus on the head coach.
The last three games because you
829
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:04,000
have your opportunities right
now and it doesn't me, it
830
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:08,300
doesn't matter, except for the
development of Chris Moore.
831
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,000
I think this goes back to the
locker room discussion, right?
832
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:15,400
So okay.
Yeah.
833
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,600
Are we essentially depends on if
you're treating these next three
834
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,700
games, as we're trying to win
these games, or if you treat
835
00:51:24,700 --> 00:51:27,500
these next three games as
developmental games, and if
836
00:51:27,500 --> 00:51:30,500
you're treating them as
developmental games, have you
837
00:51:30,500 --> 00:51:33,500
had the right type of
conversations with your players
838
00:51:33,500 --> 00:51:35,600
where they're on board with
that?
839
00:51:36,500 --> 00:51:40,300
That's going to matter because
it's again, I know guys that are
840
00:51:40,300 --> 00:51:43,800
seniors are guys that, you know,
are moving on, you don't really
841
00:51:44,100 --> 00:51:47,500
you want to honor them at the
same time, but, you know, this
842
00:51:47,500 --> 00:51:51,800
is their Last Ride.
What you don't want to do is
843
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:57,400
lose guys that are the Juniors
and sophomores on this team and
844
00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,700
send a message to them that
you're not doing.
845
00:51:59,900 --> 00:52:01,500
I got things.
You feel like you need to do to
846
00:52:01,500 --> 00:52:04,000
imagine that you're looking to
Too Much forward.
847
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,400
Well then let me ask this.
Do you bring somebody price of
848
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:12,400
me with like Bob Shoop and
almost have him as a second or
849
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,600
Mentor?
I know buds in the building but
850
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,300
buds.
Okay, he's there sometimes but
851
00:52:18,300 --> 00:52:20,200
obviously he's got a role as a
damn fast.
852
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,000
Which is a little different,
he's not there, just grinding
853
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,300
film away.
All hours of the night.
854
00:52:25,500 --> 00:52:27,300
Yeah, he's not an analyst.
Yeah.
855
00:52:27,300 --> 00:52:30,400
Do you bring somebody like Bob
Shoop and who work with Brent,
856
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:34,500
fry, who coach, Chris, Marv to
sort of be that Mentor
857
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:38,300
constantly with him next year
and then the same thing and I
858
00:52:38,300 --> 00:52:41,200
think that my favorite Bolin, I
think that'd be a great movie.
859
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:46,500
I think he definitely, you
definitely bring in a seasoned
860
00:52:46,500 --> 00:52:51,000
veteran analyst for Marv.
Next year regardless, You bring
861
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:56,100
in a seasoned veteran analyst
for Boeing next year regardless
862
00:52:56,500 --> 00:53:05,300
Ralph region his coach and say
what you want to say, one of the
863
00:53:05,300 --> 00:53:08,000
best offensive coaches in
college football the last 30
864
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,600
years with the talent that He
had and how he was able to make
865
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:16,300
them produce.
I need the 75 he helped
866
00:53:16,300 --> 00:53:21,800
Trucker's last year.
I mean, I think we're going to
867
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:23,700
need.
I think the biggest thing we're
868
00:53:23,700 --> 00:53:26,700
just leading to in this
conversation is there's going to
869
00:53:26,707 --> 00:53:29,600
be some special assistance.
Specifically.
870
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:33,800
Next year, could it be for each
of the young guys on that could
871
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:38,300
Brent price actually bring
himself someone, a known head
872
00:53:38,300 --> 00:53:42,900
coach in to be with him and I
sit here and I look at Texas.
873
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:45,900
And they get Gary Patterson.
All sideline.
874
00:53:46,500 --> 00:53:48,700
I don't know if Gary wants to
get back in the game or not,
875
00:53:48,700 --> 00:53:50,500
because I feel like a lot of
these guys who are football.
876
00:53:50,500 --> 00:53:53,500
Junkies those analysts roles.
They just love rice.
877
00:53:53,500 --> 00:53:56,000
Like, I don't have to worry
about the media.
878
00:53:56,700 --> 00:53:59,100
I don't have to really worry
about the players or recruiting,
879
00:53:59,100 --> 00:54:01,900
you don't I get to do.
I get to break down film?
880
00:54:01,900 --> 00:54:04,200
I get to scheme.
Yeah.
881
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:09,900
Is that something in a guy like
Patterson who was very big in
882
00:54:09,900 --> 00:54:15,700
still had a hand in his defense?
As every year went on, you know,
883
00:54:15,700 --> 00:54:18,700
is it one of these things of how
you control that it's it's going
884
00:54:18,700 --> 00:54:21,900
to be interesting.
I think what scares us more is
885
00:54:21,900 --> 00:54:26,600
if come March maybe not more
summertime.
886
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,300
There's not any of these roles
and we're just rolling at it
887
00:54:29,300 --> 00:54:34,200
again, especially after going.
You know, not going to a bowl.
888
00:54:35,500 --> 00:54:38,500
All right, Braun, lets roll over
some other Hokies news in
889
00:54:38,500 --> 00:54:40,400
college football, notes
basketball.
890
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:44,200
Season has begun.
And last night both okey, men's
891
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:47,300
and women's hoop tipped off at
Castle.
892
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:54,100
Hokies Men, played Delaware
State and then easy 95 57 win
893
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,500
Grant Basile led the way with
good games from Padula Maddox.
894
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:00,900
Be dead honest with you.
Brian didn't watch a minute,
895
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:02,900
followed it.
And it didn't take long to the
896
00:55:02,900 --> 00:55:05,400
team to get him like 20.
And it was just like, yeah, this
897
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:09,700
is over with the Bedouins.
That was a, that was a whipping
898
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:15,400
and it was Good to see them.
Be that crisp out the gate.
899
00:55:15,900 --> 00:55:16,800
Yeah.
Regardless of.
900
00:55:17,900 --> 00:55:20,200
Yeah.
Regardless of competition, you
901
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:23,500
know, I think with and I think
we kind of knew it coming into
902
00:55:23,500 --> 00:55:25,600
this year.
I think we're going to maybe
903
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:29,800
take a small step back over all
defensively, but this is a much
904
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:33,600
more potent offensive team.
No.
905
00:55:34,500 --> 00:55:36,400
So, we'll see.
I know they've got more games
906
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:40,100
this week, and it's kind of that
balance try to watch some
907
00:55:40,100 --> 00:55:43,100
trying, not to watch some talk
about with Chips as well who are
908
00:55:43,100 --> 00:55:47,300
ranked 13th in the country.
Absolutely blows the doors off
909
00:55:47,300 --> 00:55:51,700
Mount Saint Mary's, 10 145.
I looked at that in the first
910
00:55:51,700 --> 00:55:54,700
quarter and it was 4:37 at the
end of the first in the same
911
00:55:54,700 --> 00:55:57,300
thing and went through my head,
well, that games over.
912
00:55:58,500 --> 00:56:02,900
But a great showing, you know,
by both teams last night to get
913
00:56:02,900 --> 00:56:08,300
the to get the season started,
obviously some bigger games in
914
00:56:08,300 --> 00:56:11,200
the subsequent weeks and which
will be kind of keeping an eye
915
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:12,600
on a little bit closer.
Sir.
916
00:56:12,900 --> 00:56:16,700
Yep.
Also in News women's soccer
917
00:56:16,700 --> 00:56:19,100
makes the tournament.
They'll be playing West Virginia
918
00:56:19,100 --> 00:56:22,600
who's a national number seven
seed this weekend.
919
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:26,500
So again, good things there,
obviously, they pulled that
920
00:56:26,500 --> 00:56:32,000
upset of UVA earlier this year.
So again, Good for them.
921
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:36,200
Good for the program, is just
building more and more Big Stuff
922
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:39,600
happening in the fall for that
soccer team.
923
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,700
So that's been big.
And now that we have basketball
924
00:56:42,700 --> 00:56:46,400
back is just going to be even
more fun stuff to watch day in
925
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,100
day out at throughout the week.
Absolutely.
926
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:50,300
All right, let's flip it real
quick.
927
00:56:50,300 --> 00:56:52,700
For you had to break here
college football, playoff
928
00:56:52,700 --> 00:56:56,400
rankings are released again
tonight your top four or
929
00:56:56,400 --> 00:57:02,600
Georgia, Ohio State Michigan TCU
makes a big Into the top four
930
00:57:03,100 --> 00:57:08,600
Tennessee five organ six and LSU
as a to Lost team jumps, all the
931
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:12,500
way up to seven.
How you feeling about this, thus
932
00:57:12,500 --> 00:57:16,700
far behind, we talked yesterday.
I, this is exactly what I
933
00:57:16,700 --> 00:57:18,700
thought was.
Kind of going to happen, more or
934
00:57:18,700 --> 00:57:21,200
less.
I said LSU could potentially go
935
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:27,200
as high as six there at 7:00.
I didn't think Tennessee was
936
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,000
going to fall any further than
60.
937
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:30,800
That 16 was kind of my buffer
there.
938
00:57:30,900 --> 00:57:37,000
R TC you jumping big big?
Yeah they were yeah that that
939
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,800
that's probably the most
surprising but it doesn't
940
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:43,100
necessarily shocked me.
Nah, they're not enough but
941
00:57:43,100 --> 00:57:44,700
they're putting together a good
resume.
942
00:57:44,700 --> 00:57:49,700
So I mean he doesn't Shock Me
and You Know mission is kind of
943
00:57:49,700 --> 00:57:52,900
the that's all going to come
down to what happens when they
944
00:57:52,900 --> 00:57:54,500
play State.
Yeah.
945
00:57:54,500 --> 00:57:58,200
Thanksgiving one of the, that's
an elimination game and is an
946
00:57:58,207 --> 00:58:01,300
elimination game and it's also
one of Reasons.
947
00:58:01,300 --> 00:58:03,900
I think in the very near future
the big Ten's going to scrub
948
00:58:03,900 --> 00:58:08,200
divisions just like everybody
else's because there's no like
949
00:58:08,500 --> 00:58:11,800
because if you have that game
and they're both ones 12 and one
950
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:14,000
and then the other start to know
and they're playing ten and
951
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:17,700
three across conference, like no
rematch this next week in ND.
952
00:58:18,300 --> 00:58:21,200
Well, as bad as the coastal is
the bit, the Big Ten West might
953
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:26,700
be worse this year.
Not a lie, not a lot by the way.
954
00:58:27,700 --> 00:58:31,600
Did you watch the end of the LSU
Alabama game?
955
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:36,800
Yes I did.
I'm not the biggest Brian, Kelly
956
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:40,900
fan but Dallas balls that was
absolute ball because he just
957
00:58:40,900 --> 00:58:45,700
basically said ask this, is it?
Yeah, the game's going to end
958
00:58:45,700 --> 00:58:48,400
right here on one play and I
love that.
959
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:52,400
Even though I mean he said we're
not doing this again.
960
00:58:52,700 --> 00:58:54,800
Let's go ahead.
We're going, we're going in this
961
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:58,700
thing and they and they knock
off Alabama, who some pundits
962
00:58:58,700 --> 00:59:02,800
are still, you know, they have a
chance to get in We're lost two
963
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,300
games, can we?
That's why I don't like LSU it
964
00:59:05,300 --> 00:59:08,000
to they've been proven.
They can be twice and LSU is
965
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,100
lost two times on essentially
their home field.
966
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:18,600
That's one was the neutral site
for Baton Rouge.
967
00:59:18,900 --> 00:59:27,200
Absolutely not.
All right, Brian, before we get
968
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:31,300
into Know The Enemy Duke, we are
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Now back to the episode.
978
00:59:56,100 --> 01:00:00,000
All right Brian let's get into
Know The Enemy and with the Duke
979
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,300
Blue Devils who come in at 6 and
3 under Mike Elko.
980
01:00:04,100 --> 01:00:05,800
Let's talk about the
quarterback.
981
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:10,300
Let's talk about Riley Leonard,
who is a composite 3 star coming
982
01:00:10,300 --> 01:00:12,800
out of fair.
Hope Alabama, in the class of
983
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:16,800
2021.
Decent offer list had some
984
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:18,700
interest from Nebraska and Ole
Miss anytime.
985
01:00:18,700 --> 01:00:20,300
I see Ole Miss with a
quarterback.
986
01:00:20,300 --> 01:00:23,400
It immediately makes me hurt my
ears because some odd reason
987
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:27,100
Lane kiffin knows what to do
with quarterbacks and so far
988
01:00:27,100 --> 01:00:30,000
this season, you know, he's had
a really great season.
989
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:33,700
Let's just be honest with it,
you know, over 1,800 yards,
990
01:00:33,700 --> 01:00:39,900
passing 11 touchdown, just four
interceptions, white at 64
991
01:00:39,900 --> 01:00:43,100
percent completion.
But the, the crazy part and
992
01:00:43,107 --> 01:00:47,000
you're going to mention here in
just a Get over 500 yards,
993
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:50,700
rushing averaging over six of
carry nine, touchdowns on the
994
01:00:50,700 --> 01:00:52,800
ground.
What are you seeing not only
995
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:57,500
from his passing but from his
legs, Yeah, we'll start with the
996
01:00:57,500 --> 01:01:00,200
first one.
He's got great timing with his
997
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:03,200
receivers, which is kind of what
has helped them throughout the
998
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:06,100
season.
He's not afraid to throw into
999
01:01:06,100 --> 01:01:09,500
Tight Windows but he does.
Those are calculated risk.
1000
01:01:09,500 --> 01:01:13,300
They're not bad balls or
dangerous balls but they are
1001
01:01:13,300 --> 01:01:17,300
definitely Tight Windows.
His accuracy is above average
1002
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:19,600
but his footwork.
When the passing game will
1003
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:21,900
occasionally, let him down, get
into trouble, where he's making
1004
01:01:21,900 --> 01:01:25,200
some bad throughs or get some
bad balls in there.
1005
01:01:26,500 --> 01:01:28,900
He feels the rush.
Pretty well, gets the ball down
1006
01:01:28,900 --> 01:01:33,000
quickly to a check at check down
or one of the quick routes in
1007
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:37,300
the set there.
But to me, his biggest threat,
1008
01:01:37,300 --> 01:01:41,900
is the ability to rush threat.
To take off both Endzone.
1009
01:01:41,900 --> 01:01:48,800
Regain scramble, drill all that
had a big run against BC where
1010
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:51,800
he showed a little bit of wiggle
and ability to finish the run
1011
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:57,900
down the sideline sometimes.
Seems as though he lets that
1012
01:01:57,900 --> 01:02:00,900
that ability to run hurt him
because sometimes he'll bail on
1013
01:02:00,900 --> 01:02:04,200
good Pockets just to pick up
some positive yards with his
1014
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:06,300
legs and sometimes he'll bail on
that.
1015
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:09,400
Take the 45 in get with his legs
when there could be more
1016
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:12,700
potential there.
All right, that sounds good.
1017
01:02:12,700 --> 01:02:15,700
Now, something that everybody
should know.
1018
01:02:15,700 --> 01:02:20,000
Is he is a sophomore, a true
sophomore, because at the end of
1019
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:23,900
the David cutcliffe era,
starting in mid October, last
1020
01:02:23,900 --> 01:02:28,900
year, he played significant
snaps in every game, but one,
1021
01:02:28,900 --> 01:02:30,600
and that was the last game
against Miami.
1022
01:02:31,500 --> 01:02:38,000
So essentially cutcliffe helps
his predecessor by getting a
1023
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:40,600
somewhat decent quarterback
coming out of college.
1024
01:02:40,900 --> 01:02:44,500
You're someone out of high
school, you know, live game reps
1025
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:48,600
to the tune of.
He had 62 attempts, he ran the
1026
01:02:48,607 --> 01:02:52,900
ball over 47 times.
So a lot of in-game action,
1027
01:02:53,700 --> 01:02:57,400
really over a course of five
game periods that Brian and he
1028
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:01,000
showed it should be.
Looks like a guy that can handle
1029
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:03,700
the moment right out the gate.
Absolutely.
1030
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,600
Now let's talk about it because
you've already mentioned him
1031
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:09,200
running the ball.
They've got a dynamic pair of
1032
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:10,600
running backs and let's start
with the first.
1033
01:03:10,700 --> 01:03:14,600
First here, Jordan Waters at a
Fairmont High School when
1034
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:17,000
Fairmont North Carolina eight
Force.
1035
01:03:17,100 --> 01:03:21,700
Excuse me, a 3 star 4 out of
24/7.
1036
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:26,700
You know, not the biggest list
as far as getting offers.
1037
01:03:26,700 --> 01:03:30,100
Obviously, you got some ECU and
wake offers but what are you
1038
01:03:30,100 --> 01:03:34,400
seeing from Jordan Waters?
And what he does in their part
1039
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:37,400
of the Run game?
Yeah he's more of their kind of
1040
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:39,800
every down back.
Really good burst through the
1041
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:42,800
hole.
He's great at setting up blocks
1042
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:44,900
and being patient at the point
of attack by letting his
1043
01:03:44,900 --> 01:03:47,500
blockers, get fully engaged
before he commits.
1044
01:03:48,100 --> 01:03:51,100
He's not really a home run
threat per se, but he gets
1045
01:03:51,100 --> 01:03:54,400
quickly from that first to
second level to consistently
1046
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:56,300
grab you.
Those like five to eight yard,
1047
01:03:56,300 --> 01:03:59,300
junkyards, occasionally breaking
some into that 10 or 15 yard
1048
01:03:59,300 --> 01:04:03,600
range and he runs through
contact and finishes his runs
1049
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:06,100
well.
So he usually gets those extra
1050
01:04:06,100 --> 01:04:08,800
one or two yards to close things
out that you like to see from a
1051
01:04:08,808 --> 01:04:13,000
running back and that Really
shows in his touchdowns, he's
1052
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:17,200
got eight so far this year, so
he's about snatching one in game
1053
01:04:17,700 --> 01:04:23,400
right at 5:00.
Airy 461 total yards and really
1054
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:26,700
this year, compared to his last
couple games, receiving the
1055
01:04:26,700 --> 01:04:31,600
ball, he has 16 receptions for
100 yards, that's not a huge
1056
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:34,300
number, but every time I see
that that tells me, he, they
1057
01:04:34,300 --> 01:04:38,100
trust him to get out for check
towns without we need to keep
1058
01:04:38,100 --> 01:04:40,500
our eye on with them and that's
pretty much what he does.
1059
01:04:40,700 --> 01:04:43,100
The passing game is check Downs.
The guy we're about to talk
1060
01:04:43,100 --> 01:04:46,500
about is the guy that use a lot
more in some design passes to
1061
01:04:46,508 --> 01:04:48,700
the running back.
Well, let's talk about in
1062
01:04:48,700 --> 01:04:52,400
jacquez more out of Swanee, High
School in Live Oak, Florida
1063
01:04:53,100 --> 01:04:56,500
three star coming out in the
class of 2020.
1064
01:04:56,500 --> 01:05:02,600
One Duke was his only Power 5
offer and he's accepted.
1065
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:07,200
And Brian from what I'm seeing,
these excel at Juke so far.
1066
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:10,700
Yeah.
Yeah he's definitely more the
1067
01:05:10,700 --> 01:05:12,600
receiving threaded running back
than Waters.
1068
01:05:13,100 --> 01:05:15,100
They like to throw it to him out
of the edge, kind of let him
1069
01:05:15,100 --> 01:05:17,900
operate in space makes a mousse,
breaks some tackles.
1070
01:05:18,500 --> 01:05:22,700
He's also effective in the zone
re game especially when the
1071
01:05:22,700 --> 01:05:25,300
fences lose contain and he can
kind of hit that cutback.
1072
01:05:25,300 --> 01:05:26,900
That's really his bread and
butter.
1073
01:05:27,300 --> 01:05:31,200
That's where he gets a lot of
his big plays and he is more of
1074
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:34,600
a second and third level threat
than water.
1075
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:37,600
So if he kind of gets past that
second level the defense, he's
1076
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:43,400
the guy It can break a big one.
Whereas Waters is more of a get
1077
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:47,400
you the first down to establish
the drive.
1078
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:51,000
Carry you through.
Whereas more can kind of break
1079
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,400
the big one on you if you let it
get past that second level.
1080
01:05:53,700 --> 01:05:56,200
Oh absolutely.
It shows in his yards per carry.
1081
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:58,900
I mean he is almost at 7 at six
point eight.
1082
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:03,400
He's right under 400 yards for
the season and you know a couple
1083
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:06,000
times when he's received when
he's caught the ball out on
1084
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:10,600
those Edge, you know games.
As of, you know, 23 and a couple
1085
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:13,000
there at 15, when they were
against Miami.
1086
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:16,300
So it's there, they don't look
to him too often there.
1087
01:06:16,300 --> 01:06:19,400
But I think, what's your point
is they send them out there
1088
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:22,000
which essentially takes away.
And when you have a guy like
1089
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,200
that, it's taken a linebacker
out.
1090
01:06:24,300 --> 01:06:27,100
And why do you think Riley
Leonard continuously he's
1091
01:06:27,100 --> 01:06:28,700
busting?
Well, there's one less guy in
1092
01:06:28,700 --> 01:06:30,400
the Box.
You've already mentioned.
1093
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:33,400
He's got the moves easier for
him to take off.
1094
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:37,800
Now, let's talk about a former
quarterback of Duke.
1095
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:43,200
Um let's talk about Jordan more
out of Towson Maryland Loyola
1096
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:46,400
blakefield.
He is a class of 20 21.
1097
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:52,700
He was a three-star 87 by 24/7
standards.
1098
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:56,600
You know, had some interest.
We did send him an offer, along
1099
01:06:56,600 --> 01:07:00,600
with teams, like Wisconsin,
West, Virginia hit Maryland.
1100
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:07,500
So a decent power 5 offer list,
And that was as a quarterback.
1101
01:07:07,500 --> 01:07:09,600
Now I don't know if everybody
was looking to converting but
1102
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:12,900
obviously Duke has decided to
convert him and what are they
1103
01:07:12,900 --> 01:07:16,500
doing with him so far?
Yeah, they're let him run a lot
1104
01:07:16,500 --> 01:07:20,200
of good underneath routes really
dangerous when they put him in
1105
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:23,500
motion on swings, sometimes
they'll run away a wheel off of
1106
01:07:23,500 --> 01:07:29,000
that shows really good quickness
in the open field but he's not a
1107
01:07:29,500 --> 01:07:31,300
in the elite straight line
Runner.
1108
01:07:31,300 --> 01:07:35,000
So a lot of what he does is kind
of stretched defense
1109
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:39,000
horizontally and makes them play
in space.
1110
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:44,900
All right?
And so we kind of sit here and
1111
01:07:44,900 --> 01:07:47,600
you ask.
Well, look at this, if you look
1112
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:50,400
at the stat line, it's going to
confuse you because last year,
1113
01:07:50,700 --> 01:07:55,500
he played in 10 games as a true
freshman and he did not have one
1114
01:07:55,500 --> 01:07:59,700
reception.
And he actually had 19 pass,
1115
01:07:59,700 --> 01:08:03,900
attempts last year for 95 yards
and a touchdown.
1116
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:08,200
But he also ran the ball, he
averaged 50 run.
1117
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:11,400
And when you start talking about
what you're talking about Brian,
1118
01:08:12,500 --> 01:08:14,800
how many times have we seen it
in the NFL?
1119
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:19,800
Where there is a smaller
quarterback, who has those type
1120
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:22,899
of?
I guess you could say traits and
1121
01:08:22,899 --> 01:08:24,899
they get to the NFL and do it
looks like Mike.
1122
01:08:24,899 --> 01:08:28,600
Elko went ahead and decided to
turn it into one now.
1123
01:08:29,500 --> 01:08:35,000
And so far this year, you know,
receiving wise, he's putting up
1124
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:39,300
really good numbers. 331 yards
on 32, receptions with three
1125
01:08:39,300 --> 01:08:45,399
touchdowns.
So I mean, it's really good.
1126
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:47,899
It's to me it's really good.
Coaches really good.
1127
01:08:47,899 --> 01:08:50,899
Identifying, what a kid can do.
Yeah.
1128
01:08:50,899 --> 01:08:53,200
And let me go to be that next
like Wes Welker.
1129
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:55,800
Julian Edelman type.
Exactly.
1130
01:08:56,100 --> 01:08:57,700
Exactly.
All right.
1131
01:08:57,700 --> 01:08:58,899
Well let's talk about this
scheme.
1132
01:08:58,899 --> 01:09:04,399
A little Ron and it's a scheme
of Kevin John's and Kevin John's
1133
01:09:04,399 --> 01:09:10,200
long time.
D1 coordinator with stops at
1134
01:09:10,300 --> 01:09:13,399
Texas Tech as the offensive
coordinator Indiana's, the
1135
01:09:13,399 --> 01:09:16,000
offensive coordinator.
He was the pass game coordinator
1136
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:19,399
at Northwestern.
He's been roughly coaching since
1137
01:09:19,399 --> 01:09:25,000
2002 where he started right here
in Richmond on some of those
1138
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:30,100
good early. 2002 David Clausen
teams what does he Like to run.
1139
01:09:30,100 --> 01:09:34,399
And you know, what are some of
the things we can expect to see
1140
01:09:34,399 --> 01:09:38,800
on Saturday from this offense?
Yeah, so, I mean, it's a Smash
1141
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:43,500
Mouth spray offense, a lot of
1112 Personnel occasionally,
1142
01:09:43,500 --> 01:09:48,500
they'll work in some 21, heavy
peppering of inside outside
1143
01:09:48,500 --> 01:09:50,800
Zone.
Read, you'll see counter some
1144
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:54,100
pin and pull sweet.
Some split Zone in the running
1145
01:09:54,100 --> 01:09:57,700
game in the passing game.
They like to stretch you
1146
01:09:58,100 --> 01:10:01,100
horizontally to That up the
vertical throws which they don't
1147
01:10:01,100 --> 01:10:04,200
do very often.
A lot of those are like kind of
1148
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:07,200
pick Concepts to screw up there
man responsibilities.
1149
01:10:08,100 --> 01:10:13,600
But watching the BC Tate they
went 40, plus offensive plays
1150
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:16,000
against BC.
Before I saw the ball go more
1151
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:21,400
than 20 yards down fit.
Oh I do not take they do not
1152
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:25,400
take a lot of vertical shots,
everything is kind of in that
1153
01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:31,100
zero to 15 yard range
Interesting.
1154
01:10:31,100 --> 01:10:32,400
Interesting.
Interesting.
1155
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:37,000
What about the offensive line?
And I know they were a guy, a
1156
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:42,400
team that went out and got some
FCS and some G5 offensive
1157
01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:45,500
lineman and it looks like it's
actually paying off for them.
1158
01:10:46,500 --> 01:10:51,300
When you say, you have a got
guys that can run block pretty
1159
01:10:51,300 --> 01:10:55,300
darn well and pass block.
Good enough for the amount of
1160
01:10:55,300 --> 01:10:58,000
time that they're asking Leonard
to stay in the pocket.
1161
01:10:58,900 --> 01:11:01,600
A lot of this stuff is coming
out so quick, they don't have to
1162
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:04,300
be great pass /.
They just have to be good enough
1163
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:08,500
but they got guys that can run
block very well and and they put
1164
01:11:08,500 --> 01:11:12,000
together an offensive line that
is able to keep them on the
1165
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:13,400
field, a lot.
Yeah.
1166
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:16,600
Because they can run the
football and three of their five
1167
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:19,300
starting offensive linemen.
That showing on their depth
1168
01:11:19,300 --> 01:11:23,500
charts are the transfers Jack
Byrnes is the guy that came from
1169
01:11:23,500 --> 01:11:29,000
the ivy league chance Lytle.
And Andre Harris came from Five.
1170
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:33,500
So it kind of just tells you
what they did in the portal and
1171
01:11:33,500 --> 01:11:37,100
I did misspeak a few weeks ago.
Shout-out, fish out there.
1172
01:11:37,100 --> 01:11:38,300
He actually had to write
numbers.
1173
01:11:38,300 --> 01:11:39,900
I don't know what the hell I was
staring at.
1174
01:11:39,900 --> 01:11:42,400
I swear it was more but it is
what it is.
1175
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:46,300
I'll say when I'm wrong, not
afraid to do that but it seems
1176
01:11:46,300 --> 01:11:49,700
like they hit you hit all three
offensive lineman in the pool
1177
01:11:49,700 --> 01:11:54,300
and they're all not horrible,
it'll help the team out in a
1178
01:11:54,308 --> 01:11:56,600
heartbeat.
Well they're all starters on
1179
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:59,600
your team and they're giving you
Good snaps.
1180
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:05,600
Every everybody that they got
boosted, the areas that they
1181
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:08,200
were deficient in.
Well, let's flip it to defense
1182
01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:11,600
and let's talk about one of the
first guys and it's probably the
1183
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:13,600
best defensive player on their
team.
1184
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:18,100
And that's Darius Jordan Darius
Jordan transfer from FCS Western
1185
01:12:18,100 --> 01:12:22,700
Illinois where he was an
All-American safety and so far
1186
01:12:22,700 --> 01:12:27,500
this year he is absolutely
tearing it up. 71 tackles seven
1187
01:12:27,500 --> 01:12:29,700
of them for loss.
He has three sacks.
1188
01:12:29,900 --> 01:12:32,500
He has an Perceptions.
He has a forced fumble.
1189
01:12:32,700 --> 01:12:34,600
He even has some pass
deflections.
1190
01:12:37,100 --> 01:12:40,500
How does a guy like he had a guy
like this not sneak off to the
1191
01:12:40,500 --> 01:12:44,000
NFL because I'm assuming what
you're seeing on his tape and
1192
01:12:44,008 --> 01:12:46,600
he's going somewhere in the
first five rounds.
1193
01:12:47,500 --> 01:12:49,000
He's definitely going to go
somewhere.
1194
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:51,800
Definitely the best athlete on
the defense.
1195
01:12:52,500 --> 01:12:58,700
Dairies Joiner is Standout jump
off the tape when you look at it
1196
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:01,800
in terms of everybody else on
the defense, great and run,
1197
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:06,600
support Elite in Pursuit.
They'll use him all over the
1198
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:09,300
field.
Single high in the Box blitzing
1199
01:13:09,300 --> 01:13:13,500
spill an alley Defender.
He's better as a deeper kind of
1200
01:13:13,500 --> 01:13:15,500
mid Zone Defender than he is in
man.
1201
01:13:15,500 --> 01:13:18,200
Man coverage is probably his
only real deficiency in his
1202
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:21,600
game, but I mean, he definitely
stands out on tape and he can
1203
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:23,700
make plays in The Run game and
in the pass game.
1204
01:13:24,300 --> 01:13:28,300
Awesome.
In again, the gals at Western
1205
01:13:28,300 --> 01:13:30,500
Illinois here.
We usually run to Jacksonville
1206
01:13:30,500 --> 01:13:33,700
State when he came out of high
school transferred to Western
1207
01:13:33,700 --> 01:13:36,400
Illinois and then winds up at
Duke and his really showing out
1208
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:38,300
this year, which is great for
that kid.
1209
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:42,200
Let's talk about the defensive
line because there's a few guys
1210
01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:43,300
here.
I want to bring up first.
1211
01:13:43,300 --> 01:13:45,000
Let's talk about the edge Guy,
Brian.
1212
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:49,600
Let's talk about RJ obon out of
st.
1213
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:54,600
Peter's prep in Jersey City, New
Jersey class of 2019, a three
1214
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:58,900
star.
What's he showing on tape?
1215
01:13:58,900 --> 01:14:04,900
Because you know, he's 64 255.
So that's the prototypical,
1216
01:14:05,300 --> 01:14:08,900
really good size and length for
a college body.
1217
01:14:08,900 --> 01:14:12,500
Probably missing about 15 pounds
to make it to the pros.
1218
01:14:12,500 --> 01:14:16,400
But what's he showing tape?
Yeah, I mean he's a big long
1219
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:20,900
defensive end plays a good
technique and that's that's kind
1220
01:14:20,900 --> 01:14:24,500
of the thing we'll talk about
with the defense is that
1221
01:14:25,100 --> 01:14:28,800
everybody is plays with good
technique on this defense.
1222
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:32,700
And I don't know if that's a
carryover from the cutcliffe
1223
01:14:32,700 --> 01:14:34,700
stuff.
I know some of these guys are
1224
01:14:34,700 --> 01:14:38,500
new to the field, they are in
terms of joinder but you know
1225
01:14:38,500 --> 01:14:43,600
the guy we're talking about now
plays The Run well holds and
1226
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:47,100
shoots the Gap.
Well Wrong arms, the puller, we
1227
01:14:47,100 --> 01:14:50,600
could force, he's not an Elite
pass rusher, but he puts himself
1228
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:54,300
consistently in position to make
plays in the backfield whether
1229
01:14:54,300 --> 01:14:57,400
that's a quarterback pressure.
Tackle for loss or a sack.
1230
01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:00,800
He's good at providing backside
contain and send the edge when
1231
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:04,300
he needs to and he pursues.
Well and can chase down plays
1232
01:15:04,300 --> 01:15:08,000
from the backside as well.
Good to know.
1233
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:10,300
Good to know.
So definitely look for him on
1234
01:15:10,700 --> 01:15:13,900
some of those outside Zone runs
and we have seen in the last few
1235
01:15:13,900 --> 01:15:17,600
weeks but also brine with what
he's done.
1236
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:21,500
It's really opened it up for the
big guy on the inside the wing
1237
01:15:21,500 --> 01:15:31,300
quarter, Dwayne Carter who from
Pinkerton Ohio a three-star when
1238
01:15:31,300 --> 01:15:36,900
he came out in 2019 out of
Pinkerton Central was a
1239
01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:41,500
Originally thought to be going
to Michigan State but he shun
1240
01:15:41,500 --> 01:15:48,200
them a half three star in 88
when he came out top 20 player
1241
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:50,800
in Ohio's a top, 40 defensive
tackles.
1242
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:56,600
So you know, at six foot three
and 300-plus pounds right now,
1243
01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:02,500
you know, that's that's pretty
good size in, you know, pretty
1244
01:16:02,500 --> 01:16:04,300
good.
You know, rating coming out of
1245
01:16:04,300 --> 01:16:08,600
high school has Elko been able
to really Ali utilize him in a
1246
01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:12,200
good way this year.
Yeah, I mean he's really strong
1247
01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:15,800
in the Gap plays.
The good, leverage shows, good
1248
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:18,100
quickness for a Dietz defensive,
tackle his size.
1249
01:16:18,100 --> 01:16:23,000
He shoots that Gap.
Well, big effort player, shows
1250
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:26,500
really good.
Motor doesn't give up plays.
1251
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:30,000
He doesn't use his hands as
effectively as he could to shed
1252
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:31,200
blockers.
That's probably really the
1253
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:36,800
biggest weakness in his in his
game right now and he's not an
1254
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:39,900
Elite pass rusher.
He's just average, but he's
1255
01:16:39,900 --> 01:16:41,900
okay.
Effective especially in obvious
1256
01:16:41,900 --> 01:16:46,400
passing situations.
Makes sense, makes sense.
1257
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:51,600
And I'll say, just the
Improvement for him is
1258
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:54,600
statistically, like, last year,
he only had seven and a half
1259
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:57,700
tackles for lost.
He's already one and a half plus
1260
01:16:57,700 --> 01:16:59,900
on that number.
This year, four and a half
1261
01:16:59,900 --> 01:17:01,600
sacks.
Last year, he's already at that
1262
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:05,900
number, this year, with with,
you know, three games to go on
1263
01:17:05,900 --> 01:17:10,800
Pace to probably be slightly
above his tackles for last year,
1264
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:13,500
but here's where it scares the
crap out of me after what we've
1265
01:17:13,500 --> 01:17:16,900
had happened.
Last The guy has had three
1266
01:17:16,900 --> 01:17:19,100
forced fumbles.
He's had three, fumble,
1267
01:17:19,100 --> 01:17:24,100
recoveries, and he included a
scoop and score, as much as
1268
01:17:24,100 --> 01:17:28,000
we've turned the ball over.
I look at that data and I go.
1269
01:17:28,100 --> 01:17:29,900
Oh shit.
That's not good.
1270
01:17:29,900 --> 01:17:32,800
Especially the guy who's
consistently doing it because he
1271
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:37,200
did it four times last year.
That's worrisome, that's
1272
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:39,300
worrisome.
And that's where he's strong in
1273
01:17:39,300 --> 01:17:40,500
the Gap.
He shoots the Gap.
1274
01:17:40,500 --> 01:17:44,100
Well, so we're sometimes getting
into that area where the running
1275
01:17:44,100 --> 01:17:46,100
back.
It doesn't quite have that full
1276
01:17:46,500 --> 01:17:49,700
full grip on the ball after the
handoff or after the mesh.
1277
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:53,800
He's able to penetrate their
quick and he's playing right
1278
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:57,200
over the center most times.
Usually lined up in a one or a
1279
01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:58,900
zero.
We'll talk about that too
1280
01:17:58,900 --> 01:18:00,500
second.
Sometimes in a three.
1281
01:18:00,500 --> 01:18:02,800
But yeah.
All right.
1282
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:05,200
Yeah, he's coming at you.
All right.
1283
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:08,700
Let's go real quick.
Let's try to wrap this up and
1284
01:18:08,700 --> 01:18:10,700
for you to the skiing.
Let's talk about two guys in the
1285
01:18:10,700 --> 01:18:13,700
linebacker room.
Usually do for we're doing five
1286
01:18:13,700 --> 01:18:17,600
because It's another transfer.
We're going to talk about the
1287
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:21,600
end, here's making.
Hey, but let's talk about the
1288
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:24,500
kind of the guy.
They're shocked a Howard,
1289
01:18:24,900 --> 01:18:29,200
six-foot-four 220-pound
linebacker a three-star.
1290
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:31,500
When he came out of Mill Creek
down in Georgia.
1291
01:18:31,500 --> 01:18:35,400
One of those good schools down
there and so far this year and
1292
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:38,500
so far just in general in his
career he has been a productive
1293
01:18:38,500 --> 01:18:41,400
player this year.
Sixty six, tackles four and a
1294
01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:46,800
half for loss.
A sack 2:06 flexes to fumble,
1295
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:50,000
recoveries.
But in his career over 300
1296
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:53,500
tackles he has started
especially since his freshman
1297
01:18:53,500 --> 01:18:57,900
year over 300, tackles over 30,
tackles for loss, 10 and a half
1298
01:18:57,900 --> 01:19:03,300
sacks interceptions.
I mean, what more can you ask
1299
01:19:03,300 --> 01:19:06,500
for from like an 86?
That comes and plays at Dukes
1300
01:19:06,500 --> 01:19:08,000
putting up those kind of
numbers?
1301
01:19:09,100 --> 01:19:11,900
Yeah, I mean the big thing, you
know, we talked about it already
1302
01:19:11,900 --> 01:19:17,100
but he is a technically Sound
Player, he tackles well reads
1303
01:19:17,100 --> 01:19:23,300
offenses quickly, he's better in
coverage especially May Zone
1304
01:19:23,300 --> 01:19:26,400
coverage.
He can get a little bit on an
1305
01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:30,400
island there and man, he
sometimes can get washed by down
1306
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:33,100
block.
But he's Really solid player
1307
01:19:33,100 --> 01:19:36,500
really good tackler.
And just a guy that is always in
1308
01:19:36,500 --> 01:19:42,500
the right spot to make a play.
All right, let's flip over to
1309
01:19:42,500 --> 01:19:47,900
the other guy who was another
transfer and that is Cam Dillon
1310
01:19:47,900 --> 01:19:50,200
cam Dylan.
Originally attended Columbia in
1311
01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:54,600
the ivy league.
Had no other offers not even
1312
01:19:54,600 --> 01:20:02,300
rated by 24/7 and he's come down
to Juke and this year in sort of
1313
01:20:02,300 --> 01:20:04,300
a, you'll mention in a second,
he arrived.
1314
01:20:04,300 --> 01:20:08,500
But kind of a secondary role,
34, tackles three tackles for
1315
01:20:08,500 --> 01:20:13,800
loss, couple forced Close.
And he's not playing every snap.
1316
01:20:15,900 --> 01:20:19,200
Yeah, he's kind of their spell,
Mike but he's also the primary
1317
01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:21,800
nickel linebacker that they have
on the field.
1318
01:20:22,500 --> 01:20:25,300
They like him as a Blitzer.
They'll also drop it in coverage
1319
01:20:25,300 --> 01:20:28,600
usually in his own
responsibility and he plays a
1320
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:31,000
great technique and he's a very
good tackler.
1321
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:34,500
You gets guys to the ground and
that's really what we're his
1322
01:20:34,500 --> 01:20:36,900
biggest benefit is he's good at
Rushing the passer.
1323
01:20:36,900 --> 01:20:39,600
Very good at getting guys to the
ground when he's at a spot to
1324
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:43,200
make a play.
That is awesome to hear.
1325
01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:47,100
But again, it's it's a No, we
said it three or four times.
1326
01:20:47,100 --> 01:20:50,100
It's like every guy that got in
the portal significant
1327
01:20:50,100 --> 01:20:52,200
contributors significant
contributor significant
1328
01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:55,300
contributor and that's where the
portal gain can do for you.
1329
01:20:55,700 --> 01:21:00,600
If you hit on in this case they
hit on just about everybody, it
1330
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:03,600
can help your team Brian.
Let's talk about real quick.
1331
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:07,700
The defensive scheme obviously.
This is a lot of my kale koen.
1332
01:21:07,700 --> 01:21:12,900
It is being ran by Rob Smith.
Rob Smith who last year was the
1333
01:21:12,900 --> 01:21:15,400
defensive coordinator under Greg
Schiano at Rutgers.
1334
01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:19,800
He It also worked with Elko as
an analyst back at am, but he
1335
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:23,100
had also been a defensive
coordinator at Minnesota and 27
1336
01:21:23,100 --> 01:21:28,700
and 2017. 2018 Arkansas, D
coordinator in 2014 16.
1337
01:21:28,700 --> 01:21:32,100
He also has an NFL experience
with the Buccaneers.
1338
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:37,300
So in again, guarantee I knows
firsthand your he was as
1339
01:21:37,300 --> 01:21:41,000
defensive coordinator, as well.
So really experienced guy as a
1340
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:44,300
DC, and what are you seeing from
this defense?
1341
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:50,100
Yeah, this is a 4 to 5, it's a
pressure heavy system so we're
1342
01:21:50,100 --> 01:21:55,500
very familiar with this team is
very sound in technique, some of
1343
01:21:55,500 --> 01:21:58,000
that carry over from cutcliffe,
some of that is finding the
1344
01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:03,700
right scheme fit guys to kind of
bring in and Shore up the areas
1345
01:22:03,700 --> 01:22:04,800
that were deficient in the
offseason.
1346
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:08,300
And the thing that, you know,
we've seen some of this with the
1347
01:22:08,300 --> 01:22:10,700
Hokies as well but they run that
split front.
1348
01:22:10,700 --> 01:22:15,200
That 505 nickel package that
creates some confusion Infusion
1349
01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:16,800
against opposing offensive
lines.
1350
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:19,700
And they bring probably a little
bit more pressure consistently
1351
01:22:19,700 --> 01:22:21,500
with it than we do at the
moment.
1352
01:22:21,500 --> 01:22:24,400
So, yeah, well, I feel like
every time we've seen it, we're
1353
01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:29,700
dropping nine.
So, I mean, so if to me, it'd be
1354
01:22:29,700 --> 01:22:32,500
like any pressures more pressure
than what we're doing right now.
1355
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:35,400
All right, Brian.
Let's flip real quick.
1356
01:22:35,400 --> 01:22:39,400
Let's because we're pushing
almost 19 or an hour and a half
1357
01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:41,300
already.
We still got a couple things to
1358
01:22:41,300 --> 01:22:44,300
talk about.
No, the enemy.
1359
01:22:44,300 --> 01:22:47,400
Let's talk about the Hokies keys
and I keep going back to this
1360
01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:48,700
and I'm gonna keep going back to
it.
1361
01:22:48,900 --> 01:22:53,000
How we run the ball is going to
be where we are in this game.
1362
01:22:53,500 --> 01:22:56,400
Well yeah three and a half was
effective enough where we should
1363
01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:58,500
have probably beaten Georgia
Tech.
1364
01:22:58,500 --> 01:23:00,400
I'm going to be nice and say we
miss a field goal.
1365
01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:04,100
We should have beaten Georgia
Tech by touchdown, not ten
1366
01:23:04,100 --> 01:23:09,900
points but you know That's just
kind of my feeling, I mean this,
1367
01:23:09,900 --> 01:23:12,200
this is a decent defense.
I mean, they're only giving up
1368
01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:16,200
23 points a game.
So I got a feeling it might be
1369
01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:21,600
tough sledding again for the
Hokies offense.
1370
01:23:23,100 --> 01:23:24,900
Yeah, definitely the Rogue he's
Run game.
1371
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:28,600
Yeah, and the Hokies definitely
have to establish that run game.
1372
01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:32,400
It doesn't have to be great, but
it needs to be effective and
1373
01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:34,200
we've talked about it for
several weeks.
1374
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:38,300
Now we've seen it.
Have varying degrees of success,
1375
01:23:38,300 --> 01:23:42,100
you know, this past week.
I think if we held onto the ball
1376
01:23:42,100 --> 01:23:45,100
a couple extra times out of been
more or less happy with the Run
1377
01:23:45,100 --> 01:23:51,200
game, I think we've got a cap of
what we can expect from this run
1378
01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:54,700
game and as long as it is
efficient, meaning getting close
1379
01:23:54,700 --> 01:23:59,300
to that four yards, a carry
giving the ability to run any of
1380
01:23:59,300 --> 01:24:01,700
that play action that we can or
any of that.
1381
01:24:01,700 --> 01:24:04,200
Max.
Protect that we can because
1382
01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:06,400
we've been effective.
When we can go back to Act on
1383
01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:11,300
off play action, and in some of
those deep shots, but you can't
1384
01:24:11,300 --> 01:24:14,500
really set those up very well,
if you're not somewhat efficient
1385
01:24:14,500 --> 01:24:17,700
in the run again, someone
affected and Dukes defense run
1386
01:24:17,700 --> 01:24:20,500
defense is efficient their 21st
in the country, they're only
1387
01:24:20,500 --> 01:24:25,600
giving up 124 yards, a game
under 43.7 a carry.
1388
01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:28,100
So I think Brian it might go
back to what you said last week
1389
01:24:28,100 --> 01:24:32,200
if we hit three and a half on 35
to 40 carries, that might put us
1390
01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:37,300
in a good position again to
potentially Ali have a chance in
1391
01:24:37,300 --> 01:24:40,100
this game.
I'm going to flip to this next
1392
01:24:40,100 --> 01:24:43,000
because this is the one that
shocked me looking at defensive
1393
01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:46,300
stats.
A team that's 6 + 3.
1394
01:24:46,400 --> 01:24:49,400
I gave you the rush numbers, you
know, they're given up under,
1395
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:51,500
you know, right at 23 points.
A game.
1396
01:24:52,100 --> 01:24:53,900
How good do you think they're
good for third down?
1397
01:24:53,900 --> 01:25:00,500
Conversion would be pretty good
middle of pack.
1398
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:08,800
No worst somehow somehow they're
bad 10 ninth in the country.
1399
01:25:09,100 --> 01:25:12,900
They are giving up.
Almost 43 percent of third down
1400
01:25:12,900 --> 01:25:18,200
conversions, I sit here and I'll
ask you, would you be happy with
1401
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:22,800
40 on Saturday?
I'd be very happy with 40 since
1402
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:25,900
we've been consistently like
below 35.
1403
01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:30,600
Most of the year so far so we
could get 40 or above.
1404
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:32,900
That would be great.
That put us at least in
1405
01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:38,100
positions to stay on the field
without having to rely on some
1406
01:25:38,100 --> 01:25:40,100
of those chunk plays on early
Downs.
1407
01:25:40,900 --> 01:25:43,500
That's a biggie right there and
that's the big.
1408
01:25:43,500 --> 01:25:48,800
I think a lot for this game is
going to be The game that the
1409
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:52,000
Hokies can win, here is a low
possession game.
1410
01:25:52,500 --> 01:25:55,600
I would say a 12 possession.
Total game is how we can win
1411
01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:57,800
that.
And as we talk about those
1412
01:25:57,800 --> 01:26:00,600
conversions, we talk about our
Run game but it's also going to
1413
01:26:00,608 --> 01:26:04,900
be, I run the against that.
Run offense, we mentioned three
1414
01:26:04,900 --> 01:26:07,000
of the players, we gave you, the
data Brian, gave you the
1415
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:10,900
breakdown on each, this is a
team that is a top 25 Russian
1416
01:26:10,900 --> 01:26:13,800
team.
They're getting over 208 yards a
1417
01:26:13,808 --> 01:26:18,500
game and it's good as Waters and
more is I Really think Brian.
1418
01:26:18,700 --> 01:26:21,100
That rylander's legs are the
key.
1419
01:26:21,900 --> 01:26:25,500
And when I say the key, I mean
more of a key to this being a
1420
01:26:25,500 --> 01:26:30,000
game that's tight in the fourth
quarter or potentially them
1421
01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:32,600
walking away from us in the
third quarter, fourth quarter.
1422
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:38,800
Yeah you know when we look at
this we got to make sure that
1423
01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:42,900
We're not letting Riley Leonard
beat us.
1424
01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:46,500
I think if we can get into those
predictable outcomes in the zone
1425
01:26:46,500 --> 01:26:49,200
re game, where the ball is,
handed to the running back,
1426
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:51,200
that's probably a better thing
for us now.
1427
01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:55,500
We still got to be good in that
backside contain because if
1428
01:26:55,500 --> 01:26:59,300
we're, if we're forcing the
mesh, They were forcing the
1429
01:26:59,300 --> 01:27:03,300
given the mesh, then there could
be some, some cutback Lane.
1430
01:27:03,300 --> 01:27:06,800
So we got to make sure that
we're not missing tackles that
1431
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:12,000
were not giving up contained on
the back side, that's going to
1432
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:14,500
be a big key for sure.
All right.
1433
01:27:14,600 --> 01:27:17,600
One last piece that I think the
key is going to be the forcing
1434
01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:20,400
of turnovers.
We obviously did Force One but
1435
01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:25,700
unfortunately we also
surrendered for but Dukes of top
1436
01:27:25,700 --> 01:27:27,700
team in the country, in turnover
margin.
1437
01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:31,800
And they've only turn the ball
over six times all year.
1438
01:27:32,900 --> 01:27:37,500
All year, but a little little
Ray of Hope.
1439
01:27:37,500 --> 01:27:41,200
Well, Ray, I hope we know.
They lost to Georgia Tech 2320
1440
01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:45,900
of their six.
They gave up to in that game and
1441
01:27:45,900 --> 01:27:48,500
they did not take anything away
from Georgia Tech.
1442
01:27:49,500 --> 01:27:53,200
And if we go back and look at
the Georgia Tech game for us,
1443
01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:58,900
this week is They were plus 3
and they beat us by a point.
1444
01:27:59,500 --> 01:28:02,600
This is one of those
correlations to say if we can
1445
01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:06,600
just stay away from the
turnovers and I know that's
1446
01:28:06,600 --> 01:28:08,800
easier said than done.
But forced them to have one of
1447
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:13,000
their bad games because one of
their bad games, they lost to
1448
01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:16,700
one of the worst teams even
though we've lost to that team.
1449
01:28:16,700 --> 01:28:21,000
So are we worse or not?
Yeah, that's the question.
1450
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:25,600
I mean, overall Duke is played
much better than we have all
1451
01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:27,400
year obviously, but hundred
percent.
1452
01:28:27,400 --> 01:28:30,700
Yeah, they lost to a team that
we all must be that we should
1453
01:28:30,700 --> 01:28:32,900
have beat if we did just taking
care of some things there at the
1454
01:28:32,900 --> 01:28:37,100
end.
Does that, you know, how was the
1455
01:28:37,100 --> 01:28:41,400
locker room reacting to that?
Are they saying yes.
1456
01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:43,400
Shit, we are almost there or are
they saying?
1457
01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:46,600
Damn, we let another one get
away because their mentality
1458
01:28:47,500 --> 01:28:51,100
true and you hope it's the
Latter, not the former.
1459
01:28:51,100 --> 01:28:54,700
Because it's if it's the, how do
we keep letting these games go
1460
01:28:54,700 --> 01:28:57,500
away?
That's a defeatist mentality.
1461
01:28:58,100 --> 01:29:02,500
That's the whole, you know, the
finishing, the winning that is
1462
01:29:02,500 --> 01:29:05,800
not the mentality, you need.
All right, we're almost there.
1463
01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:09,700
We're a couple plays away from
from putting these things away.
1464
01:29:09,700 --> 01:29:12,400
Now, let's go make those plays.
Well, I pose this to you for
1465
01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:15,800
hon.
How many plays do you think we
1466
01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:21,200
are from the 33 of our losses
being wins?
1467
01:29:21,500 --> 01:29:25,000
Do you think it's zero to five
or one to 50 to?
1468
01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:32,200
I think 025 in at least ODU, and
Georgia Tech, right?
1469
01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:35,000
At five maybe just over that
against NC State.
1470
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:38,200
Okay.
So you're thinking overall,
1471
01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:45,500
we're probably 15 or under plays
from being Do the math five and
1472
01:29:45,500 --> 01:29:48,600
four?
Yep, nice.
1473
01:29:48,700 --> 01:29:51,000
Well, let's get the game for
whether that's encouraging or
1474
01:29:51,008 --> 01:29:53,000
discouraging to the players.
I don't know.
1475
01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:55,500
That's all mentality.
That's all.
1476
01:29:55,500 --> 01:29:58,700
Yeah, like you got to have
conversation, but I mean that's,
1477
01:29:58,700 --> 01:30:01,600
that's definitely, you know,
that's definitely where we are
1478
01:30:01,600 --> 01:30:05,500
right now.
I mean, I think in the end if we
1479
01:30:05,500 --> 01:30:10,300
were five and four, I think
people would feel a whole lot
1480
01:30:10,300 --> 01:30:13,700
better about this season, so
I'll go back and we're close to
1481
01:30:13,700 --> 01:30:17,600
the fact that we're close to
that is encouraging but your
1482
01:30:17,600 --> 01:30:20,600
record is what your record is.
We're close.
1483
01:30:20,600 --> 01:30:23,300
But we're far away.
Yeah, your record is still what
1484
01:30:23,300 --> 01:30:25,100
your record is.
So you got em.
1485
01:30:25,100 --> 01:30:26,700
Got to finish that.
That's just what it is.
1486
01:30:26,700 --> 01:30:29,300
You got to finish.
We are who we thought we were.
1487
01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:31,200
All right.
Game prediction time.
1488
01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:35,400
Brian, I'll go first.
Listen, I'm just not feeling it.
1489
01:30:35,700 --> 01:30:37,600
I think they usually take care
of us.
1490
01:30:37,800 --> 01:30:41,200
Thing.
And I've got that stim blowing
1491
01:30:41,200 --> 01:30:43,400
us out early or then finishing
this off late.
1492
01:30:43,400 --> 01:30:47,000
I don't know.
I've got this closer.
1493
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:51,400
I've got a scoring at least one
non offensive touchdown.
1494
01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:58,400
I've got Duke hanging on at 31
226 31:26.
1495
01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:01,200
All right.
Big screen or for the week,
1496
01:31:01,200 --> 01:31:02,800
Brian.
I'm going to be doing some
1497
01:31:02,800 --> 01:31:04,500
traveling.
So I won't be able to catch
1498
01:31:04,500 --> 01:31:09,200
hardly any of the early games.
Hokies what I'll be doing,
1499
01:31:09,500 --> 01:31:14,500
probably following on my phone,
and putting earbuds in You know,
1500
01:31:15,800 --> 01:31:19,500
at numerous points in time, I'm
hoping I'll find the TV, but
1501
01:31:19,500 --> 01:31:24,700
when I get back, I will be
watching the TCU Texas game game
1502
01:31:24,700 --> 01:31:28,800
day on site.
I think purposely the cfp, put
1503
01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:33,000
them at for to give it the big
feel, you know, if you put them
1504
01:31:33,000 --> 01:31:36,600
in like six and they're like
their number six is like, no one
1505
01:31:36,600 --> 01:31:39,000
cares.
No one gives a crap you never
1506
01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:44,800
for more people care.
TCU is getting some Points the
1507
01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:47,900
over under 65.
I think the over hits.
1508
01:31:48,300 --> 01:31:53,600
I think it's a shootout in the
honest truth is I don't know who
1509
01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:57,200
will win the game, but I think
because I because my field is,
1510
01:31:57,200 --> 01:31:59,200
it's going to be a tight game.
It's probably going to be
1511
01:31:59,200 --> 01:32:05,700
somewhere like, 35 38.
I'll repeat TCU and take the
1512
01:32:05,700 --> 01:32:08,400
points.
All right, about you.
1513
01:32:09,600 --> 01:32:11,400
I'm going a little off kilter
this week.
1514
01:32:11,700 --> 01:32:14,300
Okay.
I'm going down.
1515
01:32:15,900 --> 01:32:19,800
To to Louisiana.
I'm going to UCF at Tulane.
1516
01:32:20,200 --> 01:32:32,800
All right, lane to Lane is too.
Lame, is the two-point favorite
1517
01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:37,500
here, over under on.
That one is 51 and a half.
1518
01:32:38,200 --> 01:32:41,700
I've got two lane winning and
covering and I'm going to take
1519
01:32:41,700 --> 01:32:48,000
the under one under It's the the
always scary thing to watch is
1520
01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:52,600
just watching an under when team
starts corn, like stop slow
1521
01:32:52,600 --> 01:32:55,400
down, so we got too much time
elapsed slow down.
1522
01:32:55,700 --> 01:32:59,400
There's still 30 minutes left.
Why are we at 35 points already?
1523
01:33:00,500 --> 01:33:03,100
Alright, so there you go, for
our big screeners are game
1524
01:33:03,100 --> 01:33:05,600
predictions.
Brian, anything breaking in the
1525
01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:10,700
last hour and 34 minutes since
we jumped on, I'm not seeing
1526
01:33:10,700 --> 01:33:12,900
anything buddy.
Alrighty.
1527
01:33:12,900 --> 01:33:14,400
Who's winning the game behind us
here?
1528
01:33:14,500 --> 01:33:17,600
Yes.
Me just turn around here.
1529
01:33:17,900 --> 01:33:24,000
Whoo, 21:21 Ball.
State Toledo under nine.
1530
01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:26,600
What's the line in that?
Can you pull that up real quick?
1531
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:28,700
Yeah.
Now I'm just kind of interested
1532
01:33:28,700 --> 01:33:32,200
here.
Like, is there anybody sweating
1533
01:33:34,200 --> 01:33:36,500
making bets on this because
obviously this looks like it's
1534
01:33:36,500 --> 01:33:39,400
been an entertaining game in the
glass mold down at Toledo.
1535
01:33:41,400 --> 01:33:44,700
Let's see.
Toledo was eleven point
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favorite?
What's the over-under?
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Let's see. 50/50 and a half.
All right.
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Well, that's some sweaters right
there at 42.
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I mean you know if you're if you
took Ball State in the points
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tonight you're feeling good.
So interesting.
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All righty.
Well, let's close it up.
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Ryan that wraps up this episode
of The Boundary Corner podcast
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brought to you by Main Street
Pharmacy, in Blacksburg.
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I am Curtis Wilson.
I'm Brian Sigler.
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music on Apple.
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Facebook pages where I think on
his Facebook page today.
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He covered some Sturgill
Simpson.
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Lisa thought that's what I read.
Always a good decision, a lie.
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We thank you as always for
listening through thick and
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thin, two wins or less or more.
And as always Brian, let's go
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Hokies.