The Hokies come off a much needed bye week geared up to host the 5-2 Cal Golden Bears. With the schedule only getting tougher in November, Virginia Tech will need to take care of business in Lane Stadium on Friday if they hope to add to their win total in 2025. We also make our Big Screeners picks of the week.
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What is going on?
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See.
Man, it's been a busy week, but
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I'm here already.
It's been a busy week, but it
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you know, it's Tuesday.
We're here.
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It's Tuesday night.
It's it's only Tuesday.
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It's only Tuesday.
But you know what?
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I'm I'm living the dream, man.
We all are living the dream,
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whether we know it or not,
whether how busy we are with our
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normal lives.
Clearly Shelton and Tally not
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here tonight lot going on in
their lives as well.
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So, you know, sometimes we got
to throw it back, kick it old
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school two men style.
And that's what we're going to
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do tonight.
Just me and Brian here to we're
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not telling the truth about
anything.
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We can tell some lies maybe
later on in the program.
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We're going to tell a little
lies after.
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We can tell some lies later on
in the.
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Program.
But we're going to start
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obviously tonight with Know the
Enemy as the Cal Bears roll into
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Blacksburg on Friday night. 730
ESPN.
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So pretty big national game
spotlighting us in the two and
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five season.
Wonderful show.
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Us what we wanted, exactly how
we threw it.
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Up exactly.
So yeah, let's let's talk a
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little bit about these Cal Bears
and getting to know them a
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little bit more.
And I'm going to say some real
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quick Brown before we get into
offense or defense.
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I keep.
Hearing everybody saying, well,
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they ain't played nobody, ain't
played nobody and they're five
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and two.
They ain't played nobody though.
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Y'all we played Whopper, Old
Dominion, Wake Forest and NC
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State and we're two and five.
Don't say this whole they ain't
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played nobody.
They're five and two.
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I wouldn't give anybody part
right now to be 5:00 and 2:00,
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but you know, I'd shave my head
or something to be 5 and 2.
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Hey, Curtis, you could probably
throw USC East in there in that
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haven't played anybody category
at this point.
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So.
I mean, the way the way their
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season's going, they're not
stacking up to be much better
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than Wake Forest.
Oh, oh, maybe not, but either
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way, y'all, your record is what
you say you are.
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They're five and two, and Justin
Wilcox, who's been there for
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eight seasons, it does not seem
like he's been there for eight
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seasons.
I feel like it's like yesterday
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he was at Boise State, right in
Boise State for.
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Yeah.
Only in Boise State they feel
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like he was Boise State.
Like right there sounds right.
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It sounds right.
Correct us if we're wrong.
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Yeah, if we're wrong, please
correct us.
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But you know, he counted off a
six and seven season last year.
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He made some changes to his
coaching staff and probably the
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biggest and the most noteworthy
name was he hired Brian Larson,
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another former Boise coach.
He'd been down at Auburn.
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Harson was an offensive guy back
then or, or has always been an
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offensive guy.
Now he's EOC and you know,
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Brian, just I know you, you do
your research, you you figure it
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out, but what what do you feel
is different or what do you just
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from reading and maybe watching
a game or two?
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I tried to stay up last Friday
night.
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That just won't happen.
I saw the highlight of what
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happened at the end of that
game.
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But, you know, what do you think
he's brought to the table for
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Justin Wilcox to, you know, to
be playing pretty good at 5:00
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and 2:00?
Yeah.
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I mean the big thing that you
that you're seeing, I mean that
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this is, you know, Harsens
offense is always kind of a
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physical downhill run game, very
prostyle passing attack.
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Lots likes to use a lot of quick
passes and then take some shots
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downfield.
They've just been, you know,
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pretty efficient, especially
having a freshman quarterback.
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You know, you get you get a
little headaches going along
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with that, but you brought in a
guy that's really good to run
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that type of system and you got
a a pretty solid elusive back in
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the backfield.
And they do a lot of good job
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using using motion and things
like that play action to to
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really create some mismatches in
the secondary.
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So it's definitely a a pretty
dynamic offense that you got to
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kind of keep under wraps here.
Yeah, and real quick on Justin
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Wilcox, he was at Boise from O 6
to 9 stops at Tennessee,
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Washington, USC and Wisconsin
before he got the cow job.
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So it has been a long ass time
since he's been to Boise State.
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People get certain stigmas and
Harson was obviously there back
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before he got the Auburn job and
he had been there for quite a
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while.
But you know, 14 to 20s when he
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was there, then went to Auburn.
That was a cluster.
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God, Eric.
Eric, you let me down, man.
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I think if I had an adult
beverage right now, I might doze
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out on you, Brian.
It's been been one of those long
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weeks already.
But let's say a few of the the
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key players on that offensive
side of the ball and and the
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first one I want to talk about
is the quarterback, the true
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freshman.
Yes, that's right Y'all I said
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true freshman Jerome.
I'm not trying to pronounce any
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other part of his name.
I'm not there you go.
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So first of all, his reading up
on him this week and maybe I can
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remember from last year.
It was crazy.
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So his back story is he was
committed to Cal for it seemed
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like forever committed to Cal
Way on July of 2024.
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Stuck with it basically until
signing day.
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What's his commitment to Oregon?
OK, makes sense, right?
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Oregon's bigger Nike Landing
coming off a great season.
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He enrolls December 27th, he
entered the portal January 3rd
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of 2025, and then he commits to
Cal two days later, January 5th
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of 2025.
Little indecisiveness from the
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young man, but you know what
Brian statistically was, he's
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absolutely balled out so far
this year in in multiple
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different things.
You know, you just look at him
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in general to be a true
freshman, he's already right at
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1700 yards, 10 TDs, 7 picks,
right over 61% passing and hold
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on, where's Sheldon?
Sheldon made me a little note of
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some of the offensive stuff.
Appreciate it.
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Shelton, it helps out man.
And if you look at his like PFF
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grade, his passing grade is a 77
to be a true freshman, to be
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bordered on that 80s.
You know, Sean's always telling
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y'all where it is.
When you start getting to the
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higher 70s, you're proving
yourself pretty damn good.
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Now 63 good size 2O5 Brian just
from looking research and
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reading what, what what do we
what do we know about it?
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Well, the the first thing that
I'm thinking is that, you know,
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he did all his visits when it
was not a Eugene OR winner and
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he got up there and he's like,
fuck this, I'm going to
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Berkeley.
That's the only thing that I
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could think could happen there.
But yeah, I mean, this is AI
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mean, as you stated, man.
Highly touted guy, elite arm
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strength, ability to throw from
a lot of different platforms.
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Really good deep ball, got a
quick release, good touch.
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You know, really the only thing
you got to work on.
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I mean, he's a freshman, so
mechanics, especially lower
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body, could get better.
You know, really inconsistent
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with that.
And, you know, will occasionally
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make a mistake here or there
with the football, but there's
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not really a whole lot to
critique as far as his overall
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ability.
This guy can sling it.
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And and for the most part this
season, with the exception
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really of that San Diego State
game, which seems like an
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anomaly now for them in the Duke
game, but Dukes played pretty
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solid this year.
He's had a pretty good season.
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And and and The thing is, he was
highly counted.
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Brian.
I mean, he was the number seven
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quarterback in 247 rankings last
year.
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He was just about a five star
like.
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And and then so let's get upset
real quick, hokey fans.
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How did Cal Gomez get a five
star other than he's from Hawaii
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and it's the closest one of the
closest universities.
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But for real, like the question
is how long do they keep him?
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Is it a Francisco Mendoza thing
where next year he's not a Cal?
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I mean, very likely it could be.
I mean, this is a guy that's I
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think showing all of the ability
in the world in year 1,
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definitely showing the potential
where he could lead a College
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Football Playoff team with the
right pieces around them.
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So I can definitely see him
making a big jump after this
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year.
I mean, he's put it on wax at
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this point what his abilities
are.
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He's definitely not holding them
back at all.
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Obviously at 5:00 and 2:00,
that's a good record, you know,
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even before you start digging
into who they played.
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But yeah, I think I think he's
shown the ability there.
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We'll see how how things kind of
wrap up down the stretch here as
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he gets into a few more heavy
hitters on the defensive side.
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But, you know, he's done
everything I think he can to
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kind of prove himself as a
potential to make that big jump.
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Yeah, and and they do after the
tech game this weekend.
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It's UVA, it's Louisville, it's
Stanford, and then it's SMU.
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So really after this week, it's
three of four pretty tough
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games.
Stanford's always rivalry game,
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always a great game, so going to
see a lot more about him.
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All right, let's flip it over.
Let's talk about it because you
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mentioned it with Harsens on
offense, downhill Russian attack
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and they found them something
that is a East Coast product in
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Kendrick Raphael, former member
of the NC State Wolfpack out of
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Naples, FL class of 2023.
Right out of four-star when he
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came out and even at NC State
kind of being in a supplementary
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role the last few years before
he came down to Cal had been
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very solid.
You know, averaging over 4 1/2
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his first season, averaging
almost 5 1/2 his second season.
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And you know some, you know, 20
receptions, give or take a few
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there.
But he decided to transfer to
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Cal and he is, there is no one
even close.
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And I say that very honestly,
Brown, there is no one even
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close getting the workload he
is.
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He's already at 115 carries,
almost 500 yards through seven
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games.
What are you seeing on tape from
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Kendrick there?
Yeah, I mean, they really kind
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of have a, you know, they got a
couple guys that kind of do a
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little bit different things.
But I mean, when you look at
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Raphael, he's the home run guy.
He's the speed guy really quick
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as well.
You might describe him as Cat
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like can, can, can shift real
quick, make people miss, but
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also has some breakaway speed to
finish those long runs.
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Dynamic guy, you know, he can
do, he can do a little bit out
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of the backfield in the passing
game.
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Pretty decent blocker for a
smaller back.
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So he really does a whole lot to
make that offense hum and and
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kind of fill in the gaps when
they're when they're not able to
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throw the football down the
field.
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Yeah, and and you talk about the
the pass blocking is not the
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greatest, but again, you start
looking at it, he's really only
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out of the game.
What, maybe 1015 * a game?
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Not like there's not.
Effectively.
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He's a good enough pass block
even though the grades are out
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there.
It's below A50 in PFF.
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He's good enough at his size and
can catch the ball well enough.
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They're not They don't.
Just if you see him come off the
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field, it doesn't mean
guaranteed it's going to be a
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shot play.
Yeah, it's not an absolute
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liability there, you know, on
that front.
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And like I said, because he's on
the field, he gives you another
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potential gadget in the offense
that a defense has to be aware
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of in those passing situations.
Yeah, and if y'all are
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wondering, in those first two
seasons at NC State, 20
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receptions, 137 yards and he's
already got 10 reception this
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year, right at 50.
Good for you 5423.
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Good for you.
It's best for dear 2024.
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Best seats I ever sat in.
Could hear people screaming spit
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coming out of mouths when you're
that close.
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It's unbelievable.
But but he's already, again,
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he's already shown the dynamic
that he can catch it out of the
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backfield.
He's not quite at the yard per
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catch he was at NC State.
But I think that's just maybe
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more of a Brian Parson thing,
not necessarily a Kendrick
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Raphael thing.
Yeah, I think the way you know,
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Harsens dialing it up as far as
getting the the ball to the
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running back a little bit
different.
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It's it's a little bit more
schemed versus kind of a
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consistent just like dump off
and let the running back do its
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thing.
So he's not getting a ton of
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targets there, but he's doing
doing a decent amount with with
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the ones that he's getting.
Right before we get the wide
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out, Brian, tell me what you saw
from the line because again,
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Shelton shipped over some grades
to us and it seems like their
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tackles little bit better than
their guards, especially when it
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comes to run blocking.
Yeah, I mean, and, and some of
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that's kind of a product of I
think the the style of Harsens
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run game.
But yeah, the, the tackles
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definitely carry there.
And and you can kind of see it
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when you when you look at the 2
running backs and you, you
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seeing that the, the shift to
your guys get a lot more
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carries, a lot more yards that
they're getting outside a little
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bit more.
They're not necessarily rammed
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it in there between the tackles
pretty consistently.
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So that's where they're going to
have most of their success is
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kind of at the edges kind of off
tackle that type of deal.
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And then with with Raphael's run
style, obviously you're not
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going to be pounding him inside
zone every day sometimes
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obviously, but you, you, you're
not renewing what?
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You're you're mixing it up.
You're you're you're keeping a
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pretty steady mix of inside and
outside.
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And you know, I think he he does
OK inside, especially for that
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frame, but he really can, you
know, make guys miss with that
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off tackle one cut type deal.
All righty.
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So a little bit on the other
line there.
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Let's talk about the two weapons
because or the two wide receiver
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weapons because to me these two
guys really stood out and they
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are polar opposites of what they
do.
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The first one is Jacob the
Jesus, basically a JUCO product.
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He's like 5 foot, maybe 5 foot 8
if they count him when he's in
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the 9 inch, the 9 inch spikes a
few little bit there.
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He's like 175 lbs, but you know
what, you need to get the ball
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out quick on an outlet, get a
couple yards up field.
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He's your guy.
He's already at 47 receptions.
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He's only averaging like like
right at 8.
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So not big.
But you know what, sometimes you
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just need to get the ball out
and get 3 or 4 yards versus
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taking a sack.
And it seems like that's what he
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does, Brian.
Yeah, man, when you think of a
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like college football slot
receiver, like that undersized
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slot receiver kind of a gadget
player, this this is that guy.
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You know, versatility is
definitely the defining trait.
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Use them a lot on jet sweeps.
They, they, they've got him, you
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know, running a lot of those
short routes, you know, setting
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up some of the deeper shots
downfield and, and he really
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eats in in, in those ranges.
He's he's also really good as a
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return specialist as well.
So he does a little bit of
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everything and, and he's kind of
the the motor, he's the guy that
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kind of gets those chains
moving, gets the sticks moving
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and gives defenses something
extra to think about.
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And I'll say this real quick, he
was a JUCO product when he first
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came out.
He went to UNLV for two years
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before he transferred to Cal
this year.
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So you know, you've got that.
The other guy, his name is
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Trond.
I've never heard of that name.
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Tron.
Tron Whistle.
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Tron, Aaron.
Nobody's seen it this week.
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But no we'll.
See, we'll see.
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Tron for sure.
Tron grizzle.
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Tron Grizzle.
That's an all time college
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football.
Name that is an all time college
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football name.
It's not even the joke.
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Man.
Basically unrecruited unheralded
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out of Utah when he came out.
Cal was it.
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So probably a smart guy if he
wasn't got good at football to
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get into Cal.
But as far as build goes, I mean
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64205 big guy and I mean
definitely they're downfield
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threat averaging almost 17 per
catch, 24 receptions, 400 yards.
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He's almost got to pace his feet
with almost half of the near
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reception.
So what?
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What is?
What's his deal when he gets out
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there?
As you've already figured it
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out, he is the downfield threat.
He is catching the ball
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downfield.
He is the guy that is stretching
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the defenses.
And when you look at him, I
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mean, he's not.
A speed demon, but he's one of
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those guys with those long
strides that kind of just walk
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away from you, even if they're
only running like a like a 4546
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and, you know, uses that big
body to to get position, come
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down with jump balls and and
been really effective deep down
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the field for the for the Cal
offense this year.
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Yeah, but the crazy thing is
Carolina, he was shut out for
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the first time all year.
But up to that point, though, he
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was roughly a four or five every
game, averaging somewhere
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between 15 and 20 plus yards a
game.
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So, you know, that was a funky
Friday night game.
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And basically they should have
lost.
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They should have, I mean,
couldn't happen to a better
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school or, you know, better head
coach did that ball just went
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through the back of the end
zone.
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But they did shut him down from
that perspective.
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So it was kind of interesting to
see that.
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Anything else, anybody else that
caught your eye?
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I know I wanted to hit those
guys because it seems like if if
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those guys are going Cal summon.
Yeah, man, you hit all the high
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points there, man.
Yeah, those are the guys that we
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got to slow down.
If if we don't slow those guys
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down, it's going to be a long
day for the Hokies.
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And obviously when you look at
what we've lost on defense and
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what we haven't been doing well
most of the year, it's kind of
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spooky because we lost most of
our elite pass rushers or, or
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our best pass rushers and we
lost probably our three best,
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you know, cover guys.
So you lose your three best pass
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rushers and three best cover
guys.
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That's going to be a long day
for the coverage unit on on
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defense there.
So not great at all.
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Let's flip over to the defensive
side of the ball where Brian
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Brian Parson was brought in.
He took place of Mike.
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I butchered this guy's last name
a few months ago, but y'all
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know, that's kind of something I
always do.
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But basically Parson came in as
a new OC and the long standing
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DC who had been with Wilcox,
Peter Sermon departed and went
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to the New Orleans Saints as a
linebackers coach.
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And with that being said, he
promoted Terrence Brown, right
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and then brought in big DeSoto
as Co defensive coordinators for
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their first year.
And Brian, I watched a little
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bit of, I couldn't stay away for
the whole thing, for the
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Carolina game.
And the craziest thing I saw, so
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I probably watched the first
quarter and I saw five man
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fronts.
I saw a two man front with stand
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up edges, outside linebackers.
I saw a traditional 4 and I saw
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at 1.3 down line.
I'm saying they're multiple.
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They're they're going to mix it
up.
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I mean it's a it's a 425 base,
but they're going to kind of mix
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up the fronts they're throwing
at you.
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They'll go with that three man
front on, you know, nickel dime
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packages, you know, long yardage
downs there.
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But you know, primarily it's
going to be a base 425.
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The ends can can have a little
flexibility there as far as
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whether they they drop them back
in coverage, whether they're
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stand up handed, the dirt,
things like that.
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But I mean, this is a, it's a
scheme built on being
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aggressive, being physical and,
and they want to attack and
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force turnovers and.
They are forcing turnovers
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because the first guy, and this
is another all name team,
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they've got multiple all name
team guys.
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He was a transfer and before he
decided to make his way all the
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way to Cal, he was at Florida
International.
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Hezekiah Masses this season so
far has four interceptions, 9
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past deflections on top of 26
tackles.
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He's basically, I think if I can
get it up here, he's like he's
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your average 61195 corner, but
he's Hawking balls and getting
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to the spots in just about every
game this year.
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Yeah, I mean, he had he had a
good year last year with with
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FIU and I mean, he's just come
over and kept it moving, man.
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Yeah, a lot of breakups, a lot
of interceptions and and he's
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just a guy that's going to
attack the football.
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You know, sometimes he gets a
little aggressive that that can
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happen, that can get him out of
position.
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But he's he's very sound for the
most part in his technique and
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he does a really good job of
driving on the ball and making
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big plays in the secondary.
Yep and like like I said, 9 past
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deflections already.
He had a couple against UNC, did
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not get a pick against UNC, but
it's got a pick in four other
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games this year.
You know where we are
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offensively right now.
Like I wouldn't be shocked if he
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got one Friday night.
Yeah, it's it's wild because
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every every time this year so
far, you know, knock on wood,
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every time we've highlighted a
corner that is a ball hawk, they
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haven't hurt us.
So maybe maybe the maybe
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fortunes going our way a little
bit here.
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Now, we did get hurt by some
other guys in some of those
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games, but the ball hawk that we
highlighted did not hurt us in
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those games.
But you know, hopefully we'll
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we'll we'll not see masses take
over this game and make what's
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already going to be a struggle
bus for our defense even harder
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by giving that offense a short
field.
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Got to take care of the football
paramount in this game because
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that offense is going to score
some points.
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We know the state of our defense
and how quality that of the
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opponent that they are.
Offensively, they're going to
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score some points.
So we've got to be efficient on
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offense.
We got to control time
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possession and we can't give the
ball to masses. 100 percent,
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100%.
Well, let's flip over.
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Talk about the middle of that
defense and let's talk about
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Kaylee Kade Ulabe.
First of all, I I again, it's
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because it's most interesting in
my mind.
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UNC poor running back
quarterback just left him and
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just got him murdered.
A new lab A was the individual
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coming downhill on that little
swing pass and popping the shit
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out of him.
So the lab a a Utah kid when he
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came out had offers Cal Boise,
Duke, Fresno.
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So not a terrible offer list.
And in his time at Cal,
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basically, if you take a look,
pretty much in a starting role
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this season.
So for 62 tackles, 7 1/2 for
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loss, 5 past deflections, a
sack.
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I mean, it seems like you kind
of need to do it all linebacker
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and especially 1.
That's mean and good.
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He's a guy.
Yeah, man, I I was doing some
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some research on him and like
they talk about, you know, NFL
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comps and and like drew tranquil
come up.
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It's like I can I can I can work
in yeah, 4334.
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Obviously he's running in a four
two, just a range.
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You guys sideline to sideline.
Good.
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Chase can cover running backs
and tight ends one-on-one with
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ease, comfortable in man end
zone coverage.
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So he's got good flexibility
that he'll never be in a
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position where he feels
uncomfortable or out of position
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and things like that.
So and when he hits you, he hits
443
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:50,400
you, you know you've been hit.
Yeah, like that, that was a
444
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,480
highlight.
Like, that was one of the things
445
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:57,200
I woke up Saturday morning and
saw was that hit more than a few
446
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,480
times.
I mean, and I'm sure there were
447
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,200
probably some other plays where
he laid it on.
448
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:05,000
But you know, again, he's doing
his part in that defense.
449
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,560
There's a reason that I mean,
they're not that bad of a
450
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:12,080
defense, y'all?
Like they're like 52nd overall,
451
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:16,880
so slightly above average, 44th
against a run, like 56 against
452
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,240
the past.
They're what doesn't stand out
453
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,520
just from looking at tape and
stats and data is they're not
454
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:31,520
really a big sack team because
even with a new system, some
455
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:36,760
different schemes up front, I
mean they have roughly, I was
456
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:41,720
doing math here like maybe 10
1/2 sacks and go get that exact
457
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,640
data.
So if they don't have that, it
458
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:50,160
takes ball Hawking, it takes
disciplined linebackers, and it
459
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,320
takes the last guy we're going
to talk about here, which is
460
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:58,240
again, yeah, I should have got
pronunciations on everybody but
461
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:07,600
didn't make that thought.
Aiden Keanaya, so close, 63320,
462
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,440
definitely interior defensive
lineman.
463
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:15,920
Originally went to Notre Dame
back in the class of 2020.
464
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:22,880
So he was a COVID class guy and
transferred to Cal back in.
465
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:28,280
Get the exact year here.
Transferred to Cal in 2024 and
466
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,240
last year 2024.
Not this year.
467
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:37,080
He was the 4th highest rated PFF
defensive tackle in the ACC and
468
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,680
last year as we know from having
a ME as peoples, there were some
469
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:45,880
damn good defensive tackles in
the ACC this year.
470
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:50,480
Kind of carrying it on 24
tackles, not a 90 TF, LS or
471
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,240
sacks.
But I think he's got a job to do
472
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:57,320
Brian, right?
Yeah, man, he's he's taken up
473
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,160
the middle man.
He is the strength of that, that
474
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,440
front and he controls the line
of scrimmage.
475
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:08,600
He's got really good technique,
great gap integrity, wins
476
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:12,320
one-on-one matchups consistently
sheds blocks.
477
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:17,440
Well, you know, he's really got
all the tools you want for an
478
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,360
interior lineman and, and, and
he's really showed out.
479
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,320
I mean, I, I know he came off an
ACL, was recovering from that.
480
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:29,000
And yeah, he's really, really
showed out so far this year.
481
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,200
He really only weakness in his
game.
482
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,520
Sometimes he can lunge and
overextend, you know, take
483
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,640
himself out of a play.
But you know, there's not a ton
484
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,920
of things to critique with him.
He does a lot of things really
485
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,640
well.
Yeah.
486
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:47,720
And and the one thing that I can
say just it's, it's about Cal in
487
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,120
general, because Cal was six and
seven last year.
488
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,720
Seems familiar, right?
And Wilcox had been there for
489
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,640
eight years.
He kind of made overhaul changes
490
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:02,960
to his entire staff too, brought
in Harson, experienced offensive
491
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,280
guy, former head coach, seems
like a lot.
492
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,440
Brought in a defensive
coordinator.
493
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,240
He's took someone on staff and
then brought in another guy from
494
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,680
outside.
And so far for them, it, it
495
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,920
seems to be working out where
they finished the season.
496
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,560
I don't know what me and Brown
were mentioning.
497
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,240
Well, they got UVA after Tech.
They get Virginia's
498
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,440
back-to-back.
Well, that game's going to be on
499
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,720
the West Coast.
I told Brown I got a sneaking
500
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,560
suspicion that's going to be an
11:00 PM kick.
501
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:41,280
So but but like Brian, just just
looking, why is it working?
502
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,760
Is it just Wilcox?
I mean, Wilcox is a good head
503
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,520
coach.
There's I don't even doubt about
504
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,840
that.
He may not be top tier, but he
505
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,800
knows how to coach.
Well, I think you benefit a
506
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:56,120
little bit with promoting
Terrence Brown, Co defensive
507
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:57,920
coordinator.
He is the one that's calling the
508
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:02,040
plays there.
So you got a guy with that that
509
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:09,400
limited some of the potential
friction with that coordinator
510
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,480
leaving on the other side of the
ball.
511
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:15,960
You bring in a very proven
offensive coordinator, guy with
512
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,240
head coach and experience, guy
who knows how to be a
513
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,640
professional, knows how it's
done, knows how it's done at the
514
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:25,280
SEC level.
So it's it's, it's really, it's
515
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:31,480
really interesting that a guy
like Harsen would end up, you
516
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:35,240
know, at Cal and, you know, you
know, we ended up with what we
517
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:36,840
got.
I mean, it is what it is.
518
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,800
But you know, they seem to got
the better of that exchange
519
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,360
there.
And like I said, keeping the the
520
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:48,360
continuity on defense I think
was definitely a big benefit for
521
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,320
them because there was a good
amount of things that were
522
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,680
working somewhat well for them
last year.
523
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,400
And I mean, as it stands right
now, if you look at their
524
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,720
schedule, there's no reason this
team shouldn't at least
525
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:01,200
replicate their final record
from last year, if not improve
526
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:02,920
upon it.
Yeah, with us still on the
527
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,120
schedule, a couple other
winnable games still on the
528
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,360
schedule.
A. 100 percent, 100%.
529
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:14,680
So it, it's, it's going to be a
tough one on Friday night for
530
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,560
the Hokies.
Let's talk about the keys,
531
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,440
Brian.
You know, you know, you
532
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,080
obviously looked at some Cal
tape.
533
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,560
You know what we are, what's
your key?
534
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,360
How?
How can the Hokies come out on
535
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,120
top, regardless of what you
think's going to happen?
536
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,920
The Hokies can come out on top
by controlling the time
537
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:37,560
possession and being efficient
in the red zone offensively
538
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,880
because they are going to be
able to go up and down the
539
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,040
field.
I don't have a doubt about that.
540
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:50,560
So we need to shorten this game.
We need to win the turnover
541
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,560
battle and we need to be
efficient and scoring touchdowns
542
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,520
and not kicking field goals when
we get in the red zone.
543
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,960
Sounds like your Wake Forest
game.
544
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:04,960
Plan pretty much not it's not
it's not a lot different I mean
545
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:09,120
at this point, you know we we
know what we are and we know
546
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:13,639
that this defense is picked
apart at this point from a
547
00:34:13,639 --> 00:34:16,719
talent standpoint overall,
especially in the areas that
548
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,440
matter the most, which is
getting after the passer
549
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:24,480
covering the wide receivers.
So I think we can hold up OK in
550
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:29,719
the run game, but if we let
Jaron take over this game
551
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,080
throwing the football, it's
going to be a long day.
552
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:36,080
We got to shorten the game when
we have the football by running
553
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,639
the football.
Run it early, run it often.
554
00:34:38,679 --> 00:34:43,120
Lean on your running game, lean
on your running game.
555
00:34:43,199 --> 00:34:45,679
I will say it one more time,
lean on your running game.
556
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,679
It's been the most efficient
part of this offense.
557
00:34:48,679 --> 00:34:50,719
You've got a quarterback that
can run the run well.
558
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,239
You got 2 solid running backs,
as long as both of them are
559
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,600
coming off the bye week healthy
run the day in football.
560
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:03,280
Run the day in football.
I like that, Brian, I do.
561
00:35:03,720 --> 00:35:05,440
But I'll also say something
else.
562
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,400
The the other thing that's
happened for this team and it's
563
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,040
few and far between, are
explosives.
564
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,840
I know that's one of Shelton's
biggest things is explosive.
565
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,040
We're not an explosive team and
I think that's what hurts
566
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:23,480
because we can't get big plays
when we get down into the 20
567
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,440
yard line inside the red zone.
That's where our struggles are
568
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,080
because so many times this year,
how many times have we scored?
569
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:35,560
But it's been like 10/12/13 play
drives and eventually we can't
570
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:40,520
get that done 3 to 5 * a game
for touchdowns so.
571
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:45,560
Pop.
Pop a couple explosives defense
572
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:50,600
just I mean I spent it a couple
weeks ago and it's still there
573
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:55,560
it's red zone defense.
It red zone defense is just bad.
574
00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:01,920
When we get down there when they
get down there like in some way
575
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:06,160
shape or form, we have to stop
them and right now again, we're
576
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,920
the worst in the country, but at
least limited to three.
577
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:14,160
I like what Steven says here,
yet we're some turnovers.
578
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:18,280
I would say we've got to be +2
to have a shot at this game.
579
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:22,720
Got to be +2 even does not.
I just don't feel good about
580
00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:29,360
even them if they have plus 1 +
2 lights out, lights out.
581
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:34,880
I'm I'm lucky all every game on
Saturday is in the afternoon
582
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:39,240
this week.
So you know, there's also a
583
00:36:39,240 --> 00:36:43,240
World Series game one to watch.
So I'm saying I won't have the
584
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:47,200
game on, but clearly, oh, look
at that, look at that, right,
585
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:48,280
Like that, like that.
Right.
586
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:52,760
Hey, hey, yeah.
So yeah, but what are you?
587
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:53,760
What are you thinking?
Brian?
588
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,080
What's your prediction for this
week?
589
00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:01,800
I like Cal to pull this one off.
I'm hoping it's not going to be
590
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,480
as ugly as I think it could be.
I'm gonna, I'm gonna lean
591
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:16,160
quietly optimistic in that I'm
going to give us a 3624 loss to
592
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,520
Cal all.
Right.
593
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,680
I'm, I'm kind of not far behind
you in that case.
594
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,920
I do think Cal's going to win
this as well.
595
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,920
I, I do have to.
I think they're more cohesive
596
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,960
because I think they're playing
well together again, five and
597
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:38,160
two and again, for those who say
they play no one, we take five
598
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:42,880
wins in a heartbeat.
We would, and I think.
599
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,240
Some of us thought we'd have
five wins at this point of the
600
00:37:45,240 --> 00:37:47,080
season.
Yeah, a lot of people thought
601
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:51,240
the discussion was when we get
here, can we do big things or
602
00:37:51,240 --> 00:37:52,800
can we just sneak into a bowl
again?
603
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:57,240
Well, to sneak into a bowl this
year, you got to win this one.
604
00:37:57,240 --> 00:38:02,480
And then basically, well, one of
those games is looking more
605
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:08,200
winnable every week, every
single week that goes by that,
606
00:38:08,240 --> 00:38:11,640
that game in three weeks looks a
lot more winnable.
607
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,640
But it looks a lot more
winnable, but it's still a whole
608
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,240
lot more talent on that side of
the football than what we're
609
00:38:17,240 --> 00:38:19,360
working with.
The only, the only thing that's
610
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,840
working in our favor and even
that is the history against the
611
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:26,480
quarterback.
True, but he got his ass knocked
612
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:30,360
out against against Stanford
last weekend so we'll see.
613
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:35,280
But 3121, 10 points, it'll be, I
think it should be an
614
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:40,840
entertaining game, but I just
right now, unless significant
615
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:45,880
changes have been made,
especially on offense, because I
616
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,920
think defense you're they're
just, they're working with what
617
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,440
they've got offense, there's
some things they could do.
618
00:38:54,240 --> 00:38:56,480
You don't take that as an
interpretation of whatever you
619
00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:00,200
want to take it as, but there's
some things they could do that
620
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,400
they have not done yet.
So we shall see with that.
621
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:09,520
All right, real quick, Brian,
the the busy week last week and
622
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,440
we didn't get to talk about it
because we were talking about a
623
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:15,160
coach and search.
But what, what, what was your
624
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:20,840
thought on the NDA?
My initial thought is that we
625
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,440
somehow figured out how to lose
the bye week.
626
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,720
That that was my initial thought
and the more I'm hearing maybe
627
00:39:28,720 --> 00:39:32,200
maybe the more it makes a little
more sense as far as maybe we're
628
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,680
a little bit further into this
thing than I think some of us
629
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:35,960
think we are.
Yeah.
630
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,040
Or at least a little bit further
along than I think a lot of
631
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,240
folks think we are in this
search.
632
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,360
So it kind of makes sense to go
a little radio silent as you
633
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,360
kind of work through things you
don't you want to be as
634
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:52,840
transparent as you can,
especially as far as the money
635
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,480
and the process, which I think
we're still struggling with.
636
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:59,720
I think that's, that's still a,
a problem on that front, but as
637
00:39:59,720 --> 00:40:04,600
far as what is happening, I, I
don't, I don't need play by play
638
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,480
updates of who you called and
who you talked to.
639
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,120
Like we're never going to get
that.
640
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:09,960
That's that's an unreasonable
situation.
641
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:16,040
Also, it gives other people a
way to basically, you know, go
642
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,480
against you potentially, you
know, other people can get
643
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,240
information that you don't want
them to have.
644
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,160
They can leverage that offerings
and shit like that.
645
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,920
So.
The point being, I, I think if
646
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,720
we were, if we'd had a little
bit more insight into how the
647
00:40:29,720 --> 00:40:34,080
committee, what their process
was going to be like, how the
648
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:39,200
money was being raised, not
having wit go on different,
649
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:44,360
different platforms and saying
things that I'm not sure he
650
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,920
should have been saying.
And I'm not sure that he
651
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,480
verbalized in a way that made
sense because it just led to
652
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:56,440
more questions.
But yeah, I, I, I think the
653
00:40:56,440 --> 00:41:00,240
NBA's aren't necessarily bad
news, but I'm, I'm not convinced
654
00:41:00,240 --> 00:41:04,240
they're good news either.
I think at first I was like, you
655
00:41:04,240 --> 00:41:07,280
like, Oh my God, what?
Why does this have to happen?
656
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:11,560
But then the week goes on and
then it's like, I think it's
657
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:15,360
what you said.
I think it's a lot further.
658
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,160
The reason I think it's needed
is a it's a committee approach.
659
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,440
That's the first thing.
Because when it's not one person
660
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,520
making the hires.
First of all, why is he still
661
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,120
the AD?
Y'all answer that one?
662
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:31,520
Yeah.
We, we, we can definitely have
663
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,760
that conversation, which I think
we've talked about enough at
664
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:34,920
this point.
We have it's we've.
665
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,440
Beaten the dead horse.
If if you know, on our opinion,
666
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,000
he should have been fired when
pride was fired and we'd be
667
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,080
hiring an AD and then hiring a
coach.
668
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:48,640
But we didn't do that.
We're stuck in this purgatory of
669
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,560
it's kind of the AD of
everything, but he's not really
670
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:56,720
doing anything other than the
final sign off on football shit
671
00:41:56,720 --> 00:41:59,080
at this point.
So, so stupid.
672
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:00,640
You know, we're we're in this
Gray area.
673
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:06,400
So until he decides to move on,
which hopefully is sometime very
674
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,760
soon.
Yeah, the the quicker he goes,
675
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,000
the quicker you can actually
maybe get not, I'm not going to
676
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,360
say resolution, but maybe more
clarity on situations.
677
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:21,200
But I, I think the problem the,
the problem I have is that it's,
678
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:27,160
it's, it's a selling point of
to, to a degree if wits not here
679
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,640
for a long haul.
The problem that you have is
680
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:34,120
that you're selling a current
situation that could change in
681
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,640
the future and you don't know
who your new boss is going to
682
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:38,920
be.
But they're not going to.
683
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:39,800
That's not going to be their
boss.
684
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,920
I, I get there's going to be a
structure there, but ultimately
685
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,640
everyone is going to at some
point be reporting to the AD,
686
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:48,600
correct?
That's.
687
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,480
Not what I heard.
The way I felt it is there's
688
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:54,080
going to be two separate silos
AD for everything model.
689
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:55,880
You got a football.
You got a football GM that's
690
00:42:55,880 --> 00:43:00,600
reporting the sands.
Yeah, I can live with that, if
691
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,320
that, if that's exactly what
they're going to do.
692
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,280
But again, we haven't been
communicated with enough to know
693
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:10,640
that that's what the plan is.
Until he's gone, John Belen's
694
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,920
gone and probably to a sense Tim
Sands gone.
695
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,840
I think we're going to probably
be more angry than anything.
696
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:22,080
Yes, Wing Sol's all, but when
you see the way it's mismanaged,
697
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,560
where's your confidence level?
And I think Bill got on here 2
698
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,800
weeks last week and that's what
his thing was.
699
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,440
There's no confidence.
I don't trust anybody up there.
700
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,120
Well, yeah, if I'm a head coach,
if I'm a head coach looking for
701
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:39,360
a job and this is the situation
that I'm walking into, the money
702
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:43,400
is nice and the money will help.
And the money, you know, answers
703
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,440
the questions.
It fixes a lot of things.
704
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,520
But I really hope that behind
the scenes they have a much
705
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:53,720
better plan than what has been
made public. 100% and you hope
706
00:43:53,720 --> 00:43:57,480
maybe that's why the NDA's had
to happen as well because if
707
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,680
somebody when somebody gets
hired is going to go bye bye,
708
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,240
well, let's keep that quiet.
We don't need to let that leak
709
00:44:04,240 --> 00:44:07,600
out and potentially AD higher
going behind.
710
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,160
But I think it's what you said,
I think it happened because I
711
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:15,360
think we are moving a lot
quicker to the head coaching
712
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:20,280
higher than probably they didn't
think of.
713
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:26,000
And again, with that being said,
probably more people hopefully.
714
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:30,880
Crossing my fingers, I roll my
eyes that the structures, that
715
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:32,640
this is how everything's going
to happen.
716
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,600
Here's how all the dominoes will
fall.
717
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:37,760
Yep, there you go, athletics
president.
718
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:42,680
It's two silos now. 2 silos.
Truly, the AD here is not
719
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:43,920
responsible for football
anymore.
720
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:49,080
Therefore you're not going to
get the elite level AD because
721
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:50,760
every AD wants football on their
resume.
722
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:55,560
Once again, I don't care as long
as it's winning.
723
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:01,160
So there you go.
Good point, gentlemen.
724
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:05,400
Let's talk about this though.
So I like this structure in
725
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,320
theory.
I like this structure in theory.
726
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:15,000
The problem that I have is that
at what point does the football
727
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,840
coach become accountable?
Because if the football coach is
728
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,920
working it to bring in the GM
they want, right?
729
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,480
And now you've got a situation
where your president has to be
730
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,840
plugged in enough to make the
decision to fire the head coach
731
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,280
if he isn't getting the job
done.
732
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,240
Because that's ultimately what
what's going to have to happen
733
00:45:34,240 --> 00:45:36,360
there.
Because if you got the the GM in
734
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:40,640
the pocket of the coach either,
I mean, obviously the GM could
735
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,120
lose his job as well.
If if if the coach isn't going,
736
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:47,200
but you kind of have them kind
of hand in glove in the
737
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,960
president of the university, Tim
Sands is going to have to make
738
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:53,240
that decision if the time comes
where something isn't getting
739
00:45:53,240 --> 00:45:55,600
the getting getting done the
way.
740
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,680
And I don't think I trust Tim
Less.
741
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:58,840
Name.
Trump's the wit.
742
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,360
So yeah.
I think the the, the problem
743
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:07,280
with Tim is that I think Tim is
going to be happy with getting
744
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:11,160
to a bowl and, you know, beating
UVA.
745
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:16,360
As long as long as we're selling
out, he's probably not going to
746
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:20,040
give a shit beyond that.
So it's really going to come
747
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:23,600
down to pressure from the
outside to keep him accountable
748
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:28,320
and keep the coach accountable.
There's some, I see some
749
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,680
theories going off here in the
chat.
750
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:36,960
Sandy Barber, Penn State.
You see that from?
751
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:41,120
Yeah, that's if it's James
Franklin.
752
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,680
So, you know, I know we went
through that last week.
753
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:49,520
A lot of people were given their
opinions on that.
754
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:56,120
So we shall see how that works.
I'm just I'm just trying to put
755
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:57,280
put some things out.
There.
756
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,760
Oh, no, no.
Think about man, I'm not
757
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:05,840
necessarily, like I said, I'm
not necessarily like I don't, I,
758
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:09,160
I think we could still get the
right outcome, but I, I don't
759
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,680
have trust in the process
through this point.
760
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:13,200
So I guess that's kind of where
I'm at.
761
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:18,840
So yeah, the the whole thing
that if we don't fuck it up, it
762
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:19,920
won't be for.
Lack of trying.
763
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,600
If, if the next coach wins eight
games this first year, like
764
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:31,080
it'll be a miracle, It'll be a
miracle real quick.
765
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,480
I think we missed this last
week. 2 Christians Evans in the
766
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,640
portal got us four games got us
highlight.
767
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:41,560
Thanks for your service.
And, and, and that window is now
768
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,680
closed.
So really only five guys.
769
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,040
That's it.
Five guys.
770
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,600
Kind of shocking, right?
Yeah, a lot of other guys.
771
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:59,360
Injured and it's all on defense
and it's all in positions that
772
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:03,000
we didn't really have a lot of
depth at to begin with.
773
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:08,760
So that's the unfortunate side
of it is that now UK you've got,
774
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:13,800
you know, two of your three best
pass rushers in the portal.
775
00:48:15,240 --> 00:48:19,880
You got probably between injury
and portal, you got, you know,
776
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:24,440
three or four of your best
secondary players in the portal.
777
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:29,160
And it it, it starts to compound
on you a little bit.
778
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:32,120
I mean, yeah, you got Dante
Lovett in there.
779
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:33,960
Obviously you got Jonkum and
Burgos.
780
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,480
Now you've got Christian Evans.
I know Thomas Williams has been
781
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:41,840
banged up a little bit.
So like, we're we're we're
782
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,320
thinning the secondary and we're
thin rushing the passer.
783
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:48,480
And, you know, at the end of the
day, Tucker Holloway and Michael
784
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,480
Short didn't necessarily move
the needle a ton.
785
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,440
But they were bodies.
But they were bodies.
786
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,160
They were bodies.
They were bodies.
787
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,960
They were bodies who could play
at a Division One level and.
788
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,080
Exactly.
And there are some guys out
789
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,440
there, they're younger guys and
I think they're given full
790
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,960
effort and they're probably not
quite there.
791
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:13,400
But I think the guys behind them
are in the same ballpark as a
792
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:17,480
short or a Holloway, especially
just looking at for Holloway
793
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:18,680
from a wide receiver
perspective.
794
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:23,280
Yeah. 100% on that.
All right, what what you want to
795
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:24,680
do next, Brian?
You want to do a little more
796
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:26,840
coach talk or you want to get
the big screeners up?
797
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,040
Let throw your carousel out
there man.
798
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:35,280
Well, the carousel, the the
biggest domino got reset with
799
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,720
Florida going there because
Florida is the best job.
800
00:49:39,240 --> 00:49:40,840
Even though they're insane down
there.
801
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,360
They're insane.
They are.
802
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:49,480
You go back to when they fired
Mullen and then from Mullen,
803
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,560
they hired Billy Napier.
Billy Napier never got off the
804
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:58,000
ground.
And, and, and I've said this on
805
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,360
this program, I've said it in
chats, I've said it to people
806
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:03,120
outside.
Wayne Kippen's going to Florida
807
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,120
for one reason.
Brian, you, I think you watched
808
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,600
this Saturday afternoon.
I know we did here when we got
809
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:14,120
back from baseball and from a
birthday party.
810
00:50:15,720 --> 00:50:22,080
He put points on Georgia's
defense in Athens without much
811
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:27,240
of a problem.
He's missing one thing and that
812
00:50:27,240 --> 00:50:31,280
is elite defensive players.
I don't think you can get those
813
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,520
at all, Miss.
I think if he goes to Florida,
814
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,680
that's funny.
That's funny, Steven.
815
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:40,480
If he goes to Florida, I think
he gets the elite defensive
816
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,920
players.
And I think the way Lane coaches
817
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:48,920
offense and how he recruits, I
think he could win a national
818
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:50,840
title there.
And that's that's the first
819
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:57,080
domino that calls is is that
that means Ole Miss opens up and
820
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,040
is Ole Miss ahead of us?
I think so.
821
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:00,760
Do you agree with that?
Yeah.
822
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,240
I don't think anybody's going to
disagree with that at this
823
00:51:05,240 --> 00:51:08,280
point.
I mean, basically anyone in the
824
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,840
top third of the SEC is going to
be ahead of us.
825
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:17,080
Yeah.
Now I, I do believe the only
826
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:21,400
other one ahead of us at this
time, at this time, because the
827
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,120
talks are going all over the
place.
828
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:28,280
You know, the Norbell stuff that
happened, they ain't got $60
829
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:32,320
million is what the issue is.
Because not only are you going
830
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:36,560
to pay that old coach 60 million
to leave, you're going to have
831
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,000
to pay the new coach.
My assumption's going to be
832
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,000
somewhere in the neighborhood,
Florida State about 10.
833
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:47,840
So 10 million upfront to say $78
million.
834
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:49,320
How are you going to pay for
NIL?
835
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,000
Because everybody keeps
screaming these guys are going
836
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:53,120
to be fired.
They're going to be fired.
837
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:57,840
You've got to have the money to
pay NIL next year and most of
838
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:01,240
these coaches in these
contracts, example Mark Stoops,
839
00:52:01,240 --> 00:52:03,520
which no one wants.
I think Mark Stoops is a good
840
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,040
coach.
They can't buy him out of
841
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:06,920
Kentucky.
You know why they can't buy him
842
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,600
out of Kentucky?
They owe him $40 million within
843
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:13,600
60 days of getting fired.
If you have $40 million gone,
844
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,080
guess what you don't have in
2026 if you're Kentucky and the
845
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,480
brand new coach.
It's a lot of nil man.
846
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:25,160
You don't have an NIL budget and
people can say, Oh no, the the
847
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:26,400
money's there.
The money's there.
848
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,600
Not when you have to literally
take a chunk of your budget and
849
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,960
pay an old coach who's not.
I think you could probably get,
850
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:37,640
you know, one rich donor to
front 1/3 of that. 1/3 you.
851
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:41,880
Know maybe 1/3 of that, but
nobody's going to drop 40
852
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:43,600
million.
So you can use the money you
853
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:47,400
already have as you expected to
use it on an IO, Yeah.
854
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,200
And I think that's that's
hindering a lot of people's
855
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:53,480
decision to getting fired.
I don't think it was Napier's.
856
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,480
I think they were trying to
legitimately give Napier a
857
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,800
chance.
Even though they're crazy at
858
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,600
Florida.
I still say that, but his I
859
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:02,440
think his was like, what was it,
18?
860
00:53:02,720 --> 00:53:06,160
I was building Napier buyout.
Somewhere in that realm, I I
861
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,800
believe.
I mean, it's like he freezes, he
862
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:18,960
freezes is only like 16, so 21
million that that's a few
863
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,520
million way, but.
I don't think Florida State,
864
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:25,480
half of Kentucky.
Half of Kentucky, 1/3 of Florida
865
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,840
State.
Yeah. 1/3 of Florida State.
866
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,160
Florida State's in a, in a bad
spot.
867
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:34,880
And it's, it's not even to say
like, you know, money's funny
868
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:36,560
over there.
Like it's, it's not that the
869
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:38,240
money's funny, it's that the
money's high.
870
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:43,080
And you, you, you kind of boxed
yourself into a situation where
871
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:49,080
it's going to be hard to make
the case to front that money,
872
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:53,000
have to go out and get another
coach at about a 12 million a
873
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:54,800
pop.
Yeah.
874
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,240
And then still be able to pay
enough players to come in to
875
00:53:57,240 --> 00:54:01,560
keep your neck above water in
the next season.
876
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:08,880
The other thing with Napiers
he's only owed 10 million within
877
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:12,800
the 1st 30 days.
The other one is the remainder
878
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,520
is an equal annual installments
is probably three years.
879
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,720
So he's going to get 10 mil up
front like 3 point something to
880
00:54:18,720 --> 00:54:23,240
pop versus Stoops.
And I'm assuming Nord Bells is
881
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:27,880
way up there because I think if
it was half and they could make
882
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,080
the other payments in three to
four years, they would.
883
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,680
Yeah.
So, but back back to what we
884
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:38,040
were talking about there.
But if you say like Penn
885
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:41,320
State's, the next domino has to
fall, right?
886
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:43,600
Yeah, I mean, and you can.
Say Florida.
887
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:45,280
And Penn State are on equal
equal footing.
888
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:49,480
I'd say Florida edges them out.
Edges them out SCC and
889
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:53,240
recruiting territory.
But let let me ask you, you read
890
00:54:53,240 --> 00:54:57,000
you, you, you think who's Penn
State target because Penn
891
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:00,800
State's in the in a worse
situation in Florida, because
892
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:04,000
when you say, hey, Penn State,
go hire somebody better.
893
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:09,080
Who?
Who?
894
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:11,960
I don't know man.
So who?
895
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,240
So who?
So give me a name right now if
896
00:55:14,240 --> 00:55:17,240
you say this guy would make
sense.
897
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:25,120
That's one I haven't really
thought a ton about as far as
898
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:31,720
who the next guy could be.
I mean, maybe rule maybe, but I
899
00:55:31,720 --> 00:55:36,920
mean, rule has has he's still
shown the ability to be
900
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,160
absolutely slightly better than
mid.
901
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:44,160
And I'm not.
And I'm not sure if like if his
902
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:47,640
ceiling is significantly higher
at Penn State than it is in
903
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:48,440
Nebraska.
I don't.
904
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:54,880
Think it is the whole thing with
rule is he had the one season at
905
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:59,600
Baylor and he has now made an
NFL job out of that and he's
906
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:03,680
made Nebraska out of that.
It's pretty impressive. 6 years
907
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,960
ago, the 11 and two season got
an NFL job and then got a
908
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:11,720
Nebraska.
I like this rules the safety
909
00:56:11,720 --> 00:56:14,800
net.
Can I can I tell you who I think
910
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:18,120
would be their number one And
Pitt State fans may not like it.
911
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:21,360
It's my number one for us
because I think that from a
912
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:25,120
different.
Culture there yeah.
913
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,840
I mean that that's an
interesting one to throw out
914
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:29,880
there.
I mean, I feel like, you know,
915
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,360
to the point with rule being a
safety net, I feel like rule is
916
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:36,120
like been the guy that's kind of
kept like failing up a little
917
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:41,360
bit.
I mean it's kind of crazy.
918
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:45,440
He was kind of pulling a a Cliff
Kingsbury there for a while.
919
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,840
Like, you know, all right, we
failed here.
920
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:49,360
All right, get get this better
job.
921
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:51,400
All right, fail here, all right,
get this better job.
922
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,360
And, you know, the wheels
finally fell off of that.
923
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,680
But you know, he he he had a
pretty soft landing.
924
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:59,120
But I can see rule kind of being
in the same situation here where
925
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:02,440
he gets that Penn State job.
What about drink wits?
926
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:07,400
Drink Wits is a really good
suggestion there, Jim.
927
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:14,280
Jim is on it there, I think.
I think that's something that I
928
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:17,320
think could be a, a, a good move
for Penn State overall.
929
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:25,360
It's interesting to see like how
he would compare with a rule
930
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:28,600
from a, from a culture
standpoint at Penn State.
931
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:32,320
Like obviously I think we know,
yeah, rule kind of knows the the
932
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:36,600
lay of the land there.
Yeah, that is that's the thing
933
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:39,440
why to me Hammer Campbell fit
better and drink what's although
934
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:41,040
drink what's.
I mean, last three years
935
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:45,280
coaching his ass off 11:00 and
2:00 what 10 and three last
936
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:48,840
year, six and one so far this
year and the only loss was to
937
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,520
Bama.
Maybe.
938
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:56,880
But again that I think Drakewood
stays one more year later.
939
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:03,000
But but where can he go better?
There's only a handful of places
940
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:08,200
and the question is does his
where he because I think he's
941
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:12,560
Arkansas.
I think he's more SWAT.
942
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:14,640
I'm all start doing things like
that.
943
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:20,680
Lamar, Lamar, I love you.
That ain't happening.
944
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,440
That ain't happening.
That ain't happening at all.
945
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:29,000
I'll say this, could you see
Dionne making a move for an NFL
946
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:36,080
job regardless of who it is?
No, I don't.
947
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:40,680
With the only NFL job he take be
wherever Shudoor is.
948
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:43,080
It would, but who's going to
hire?
949
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:45,920
I agree, but I mean that would
be the.
950
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:48,000
Browns have done some funnier
stuff.
951
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:48,880
It's.
True.
952
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,160
It's true, you know.
They they draft, they drafted 2
953
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:53,760
quarterbacks this year.
They did draft 2 quarterbacks
954
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:55,400
while I already.
Had one on the roster.
955
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:59,960
Well, they got rid of it one and
then that go goes out and
956
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:04,480
torches on Thursday night, so I
think.
957
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:09,000
The Browns are a criminally
broken franchise, and until they
958
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:13,840
figure out how to actually build
a roster, consistently invest in
959
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:20,400
their program, invest in what
they have and not be OK with
960
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,720
just being average, it's always
going to be like that.
961
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:25,760
It's 100%.
So back to where we were.
962
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:28,960
We go down and I'm going to skip
us.
963
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:32,720
And so again, I've said Kippen's
open.
964
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,560
Yep.
And they're above us.
965
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,480
I think they're going to swing
at one of those two young guys
966
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,880
from the AAC.
Put whoever you want to put on
967
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,280
there.
All right.
968
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:47,880
And where do you lean,
Silverfield or Summerfield or
969
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:54,720
Summerall for Ole Miss?
I think Silverfield kind of
970
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:56,680
matches what they're doing
pretty well.
971
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:02,480
I think you could come in and be
kind of grab what they already
972
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:04,720
have and kind of continue riding
the wave.
973
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:08,680
You you could probably say the
same thing with Summerall, but I
974
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:11,920
think I think Silverfield
probably has that by just a
975
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:15,760
little bit.
Yeah, I can.
976
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:18,960
I can see some you either of
them kind of landing in that Ole
977
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,760
Miss Arkansas duo.
Yeah.
978
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:27,240
See, I think Arkansas, there are
people putting Arkansas above
979
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:30,040
us.
I just don't, like you said, the
980
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:32,680
top third.
Yes, we're somewhere in the
981
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:36,720
middle third of especially with
the, with the new proposed
982
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:40,960
budget and everything.
And to be Arkansas's bottom
983
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:45,080
third, it just is.
They don't have the budget, they
984
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:47,840
don't have the resources.
If you think about who are they
985
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:51,800
recruiting against?
So if you think about who
986
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,040
they're recruiting against,
well, they're recruiting against
987
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:56,360
LSU and Louisiana.
They're never going to beat LSU.
988
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:58,920
No.
They're recruiting in Texas.
989
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:00,600
Where where are they?
Like 7th?
990
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:05,640
Probably the pecking order in
that area, 7th or 8:00.
991
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:09,400
And then you look back east,
well, it's Tennessee, Tennessee
992
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:15,280
that's being Alabama, Tennessee.
Everybody in the surrounding
993
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:18,720
areas reaches into Tennessee.
So they're not like, that's not
994
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:20,840
like their second place to
reach.
995
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:24,960
Like we just go here and get
somebody that's it's an SEC,
996
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:29,520
it's an SEC school.
If the SEC could cook them out,
997
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:30,920
would they?
They kick him in Mississippi
998
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:35,240
State out in 2 seconds.
Yeah.
999
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:38,440
Say I'm wrong, you know, they
they kicked him out and be like
1000
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:41,000
all right, y'all good?
Yeah, I agree.
1001
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,360
We we good.
So yeah.
1002
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:49,560
But it's it is probably in our
lifetime because of the
1003
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:56,120
potential of Auburn coming up
and then the fallout of where
1004
01:01:56,120 --> 01:02:00,320
other coaches come from.
It's probably going to be one of
1005
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:06,040
the more insane carousels we've
ever seen because I do think
1006
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:12,600
sitting, I think at least, and
I'm not saying G5, I think at
1007
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:18,880
least.
Well, I mean, look what happens,
1008
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:22,880
Gilbert.
We talk about Ndas on Monday,
1009
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:26,960
and UNLV looks the worst they've
looked all season against Boise
1010
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:29,240
State.
Yeah.
1011
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:32,680
And I mean, if we're talking
about that, I mean, you know,
1012
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:37,400
Memphis goes and, and loses to
UAB and I, I will say this
1013
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:42,440
there, there's got to be
something studied on, on, on
1014
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:45,320
situations where an interim
coach is coaching in their first
1015
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:50,320
game and they get a huge upset
win because it feels like it
1016
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:52,720
happens 9 times out of 10.
It's true.
1017
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:55,960
It's wild.
NC stayed with us, I mean.
1018
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:00,800
Yeah, yeah, they, they were
rolling.
1019
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:05,080
They were rolling before the end
and we, we messed them all up.
1020
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:10,640
I mean, yeah, I but I think
that, you know, we're we're
1021
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:13,280
going to get closer.
As we get closer, more things
1022
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:16,760
will Clark coming to fruition.
I still think we're third.
1023
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:24,800
I still think we're third in the
pecking order and I think y'all
1024
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:26,600
were great last week.
Everybody that came on, I know
1025
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:28,120
we're not.
We don't have a bigger crowd
1026
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:30,320
tonight.
A We're coming off a bye week.
1027
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:36,080
Y'all were playing B, we're
playing Cal.
1028
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:44,920
B we're playing Cal.
Yeah.
1029
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:48,280
Listen, if James Franklin wanted
to come here, you can't say no.
1030
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:52,360
Yeah, I'm at the point now where
like people keep bringing up the
1031
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:55,360
big game thing, like we, we need
to start just being able to win
1032
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:58,880
the games we should win.
We haven't done that.
1033
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:01,760
We got to get, we got to get
back to playing in big games
1034
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:05,800
and, and, and I mean that in we
got to be able to get ourselves
1035
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:09,040
on a platform where we're ranked
against another ranked opponent.
1036
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:10,920
Whether they're ranked higher
than us in that game actually
1037
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:13,800
fucking matters.
And not just yeah, we're, we're,
1038
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:17,040
we're, you know, four and three
and playing a ranked opponent
1039
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:18,520
like nobody gives a shit about
that.
1040
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:21,000
We we've got to actually there's
got to be some skin in the game
1041
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:22,920
in that match up for it to be a
true big game.
1042
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:25,480
And we haven't been in a ton of
those in the last 10 years.
1043
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:27,160
No, we have not.
Not at all.
1044
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:29,960
All right, so I'm going to close
down the coaching conversation
1045
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:33,800
because I could go on for hours
and hours on that.
1046
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:36,960
And let's get to picking some
games this weekend because
1047
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:40,200
again, it's another fun weekend
of games.
1048
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:45,400
If you keeping up with this.
Me and Brian are very happy.
1049
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:49,000
We went 500 last weekend.
That hadn't happened in weeks.
1050
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:50,600
The hook got.
I did.
1051
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:52,640
Have a good week, yeah?
Two weeks ago, yeah.
1052
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:55,000
Yeah, yeah, I was.
I've been.
1053
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:57,720
I've been above 500 the last two
weeks.
1054
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:03,560
Yeah, so the hook got me on the
Notre Dame game.
1055
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:06,920
That game was 10 late, got 9
1/2.
1056
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:11,320
It will kill you every time.
But again, another fun weekend.
1057
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:15,000
It was a lot of good games all
over the place.
1058
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:17,800
So let's fire it up.
Brian, where are we going first?
1059
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:20,360
Yeah, man.
Going to Oklahoma, baby.
1060
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:26,760
Ole Miss heading into Oklahoma,
man.
1061
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:31,360
And it's a 4 1/2 line for the
Sooners.
1062
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:36,240
And I was looking at this and
I'm like, I've liked what I'm
1063
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:39,520
seeing from this team, so I'm
going to ride with the Sooners
1064
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:40,560
here.
I think they're going to win by
1065
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:43,400
a touchdown.
I I don't really trust Ole
1066
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:47,600
misses defense after what I saw
and I think the Sooners are
1067
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:50,400
going to keep.
It going, yeah, I'm with you.
1068
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:54,440
I think Oklahoma wins this game
because I think Lane knows.
1069
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:59,040
I think his agent gave him a
call about 1:15 on Sunday.
1070
01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:02,600
Hey, just just just look at your
phone.
1071
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:04,680
Yep.
You see what just came open?
1072
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:09,920
Yep, Matisse back getting
healthier every week.
1073
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:17,640
Venables has that defense going
exactly like we thought he would
1074
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:20,640
eventually get them going,
right?
1075
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:23,280
I don't think anybody ever
questioned that.
1076
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:26,200
Venables always been a damn good
defensive coach.
1077
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:33,040
So for me, you know, you think
about them this year, if I'm not
1078
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:34,280
mistaken.
Unbeaten, right?
1079
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:38,400
Unbeaten.
I'm not losing my mind, am I?
1080
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:41,520
Oklahoma.
Yeah.
1081
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:44,480
Oklahoma's unbeaten.
No, they lost Texas.
1082
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:47,360
They lost the Texas and the team
was out.
1083
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:50,560
But I think Oklahoma wins this
game.
1084
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:56,800
What Shelton and Dallas say.
They are riding with Ole Miss.
1085
01:06:57,240 --> 01:06:58,880
Bounce back, bounce back.
That's.
1086
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:06,400
Right, this is Tally's game.
Tally is basically before until
1087
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:10,520
Shane is either not hired by us
or hired by us, he is picking
1088
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:12,840
South Carolina's game every
single week.
1089
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:17,160
The upside for him is that he
they, they're playing a pretty
1090
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:18,920
decent opponent every fucking
week for the.
1091
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:20,240
Rest they are.
They are.
1092
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:23,480
Although when we get to when
they play coastal, he's going to
1093
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:24,920
pick coastal.
Yeah.
1094
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:30,600
But what did what did tally say?
Laying 12 1/2, he says take Bama
1095
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:34,440
Roll Tide.
I'm right there with him, man.
1096
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:38,320
I don't trust that offense.
Zero and.
1097
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:41,600
And and they're not going to
have enough defense for the fact
1098
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:48,480
that I don't trust that offense.
100% this is a clean sweep
1099
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:51,000
across the board.
Lay the 12 1/2.
1100
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:56,360
Alabama wins by at least 20.
I don't say similar to last
1101
01:07:56,360 --> 01:08:00,800
week.
They'll get to 10 though. 3110
1102
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:05,760
There we go.
Curtis, it's you.
1103
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:09,520
What you what did you say when I
threw this to you all this
1104
01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:13,200
afternoon?
I was like, what the fuck are
1105
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:16,439
you doing?
I saw the when I saw the line
1106
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:20,479
pop, I was like, all right, I
think you picked this online
1107
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:23,399
vibes.
Alone online vibes alone.
1108
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:26,880
I picked this because I watched
even though we were in the man
1109
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:28,920
cave here watching a movie on
Friday night.
1110
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:32,560
You know, I'm always, I watch a
movie in this room or television
1111
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:34,160
shows.
There is some sort of sports
1112
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:35,600
going on.
Brian's been here.
1113
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:39,439
Brian knows how it works playing
video games, watching the movie
1114
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:43,800
and I'm watching that Miami game
and it's like, how do you turn
1115
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:47,120
the ball over 4 times and only
lose by three?
1116
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:51,200
That's impressive.
Both have you turned the ball
1117
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:53,399
over 4 times?
Whether you're a good team or a
1118
01:08:53,399 --> 01:08:55,359
bad team, you're losing by
double digits.
1119
01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:58,319
I think they're going to come
back and I think they're going
1120
01:08:58,319 --> 01:09:01,120
to absolutely obliterate
Stanford because Stanford's
1121
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:04,040
feeling good about themselves.
But they got to travel all the
1122
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:06,680
way from this side of the
country all the way to this side
1123
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:09,760
of the country for a night
dream.
1124
01:09:10,399 --> 01:09:21,319
I think, I think, I think 4815.
Shelton is going with.
1125
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:24,000
Later points.
Cardinal Baby.
1126
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:28,479
Points point.
Talent and you know what you're
1127
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:30,680
riding solo, baby, you're riding
solo.
1128
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:35,160
You know what if if it was 27
and a hook, I would, I would
1129
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:37,680
have said, you know what I'll.
Bite they can win my 4
1130
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:42,200
touchdowns they they can't win
the by the way my put my it's
1131
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:45,880
kind of funny all look at the
letters there SUSS yeah my pick
1132
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:48,960
on this is SUS, but I think
Miami dumps is back in a big,
1133
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:51,640
big way a suspect here.
There we go.
1134
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:54,840
All right.
Shelton went way off the map.
1135
01:09:55,880 --> 01:10:00,360
FCA.
FCF although a damn good FCS
1136
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:05,320
game the.
FCS game, if we're talking about
1137
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:09,840
it, North Dakota State, South
Dakota State.
1138
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:17,440
Bison Jack rabbits Baby Jack
rabbits are getting a 4 1/2 at
1139
01:10:17,440 --> 01:10:21,160
home.
Shelton's riding with the bison.
1140
01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:23,160
What?
About Tally.
1141
01:10:23,440 --> 01:10:28,320
Tally as well you I'm going with
the Jack Rabbits fan.
1142
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:31,640
I think that I think the home
cooking is going to be the
1143
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:35,840
difference in this one.
I think these are two teams that
1144
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:40,880
are as closely matched as you
can get and I think that home
1145
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:42,520
cooking is going to be just
enough.
1146
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:45,240
I think it's going to be about a
six point win for the Jack
1147
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:50,960
Rabbits.
By the way, just so everyone
1148
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:55,640
knows, this is #1 versus #2 in
the FCS.
1149
01:10:56,160 --> 01:11:01,600
Both are undefeated.
The game, I was hoping it was
1150
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:08,960
going to be somewhere, it's
going to be on ESPNU, but I, I
1151
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:12,240
North Dakota State is always too
much of A monster and they're
1152
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:15,480
only laying 4 1/2 And I know
South Dakota State have beaten
1153
01:11:15,480 --> 01:11:20,560
them in the last few years, but
big game in the FCS.
1154
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:22,920
Glad Sheldon pulled it out
because he messaged us says, ah
1155
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:24,320
man, maybe we should choose
another game.
1156
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:25,520
And I'm like, no, I found a
line.
1157
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:28,040
We're picking this game.
Yeah, if we got a line on it and
1158
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:28,880
it's.
We can find a line we're.
1159
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:30,200
Picking it, we're going to put
it out there.
1160
01:11:30,440 --> 01:11:32,360
We're going to put it out there.
So there you go.
1161
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:36,640
Built the big screen, Brian.
Big screeners.
1162
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:38,960
Always fun.
Always fun.
1163
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:42,400
Brian, I told you we won't go
that long tonight.
1164
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:45,440
You know what you get to do?
It's not even 10:30.
1165
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:48,400
Man.
Opening night of the NBA, man,
1166
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:51,840
and your Late Show is playing
here in the next few minutes.
1167
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:55,720
Yeah, about to put that bad boy
on while I'm falling asleep
1168
01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:57,240
because I will not make it
through that one.
1169
01:11:58,480 --> 01:12:01,280
Actually, it it was a 10/15 tip.
Excuse me?
1170
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:03,160
It's already started, so they
just want to throw it up.
1171
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:05,400
Five.
Minutes ago, yeah, yeah, I will
1172
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:07,160
not make it through that when I
can guarantee.
1173
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:08,680
You.
We don't do that.
1174
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:10,520
No more.
Not anymore.
1175
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:14,120
It's, it's the, it's the
struggles of supporting a West
1176
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:16,000
Coast team.
I know you know it and, and, and
1177
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:19,480
you get it at least on a more
consistent basis than I do
1178
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:23,440
because following NBA is a
little bit different than NFL
1179
01:12:23,440 --> 01:12:26,520
because at least NFL stays on a
pretty consistent schedule
1180
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:28,680
regardless of whether it's East
Coast or West Coast.
1181
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:32,080
My only hope is it's when I look
at the schedule is they're not
1182
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:35,080
doing double headers on Monday
nights because then I know it's
1183
01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:39,480
a 10:00 kick and it's like,
well, my first thing to check
1184
01:12:39,480 --> 01:12:42,520
the work schedule can I take off
Tuesday because I will want to
1185
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:44,440
stay up, but I will be suffering
for it.
1186
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:48,920
But appreciate everybody in the
chat tonight chiming in as
1187
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:51,320
usual.
Brian, anything to add before we
1188
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:52,040
take it home?
I'm.
1189
01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:54,160
Ready to kick it, man?
Let's do it.
1190
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:57,800
That wraps up this episode of
the Boundary Corner podcast,
1191
01:12:57,800 --> 01:13:00,280
brought to you by Counts Family
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1192
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:04,680
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1193
01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:05,400
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1194
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:08,640
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1195
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1196
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