Know the Enemy: Boston College

0:45 Welcome back to the boundary Corner podcast, I am Curtis Wilson. I'm Brian seagull buddy. Back here on a Tuesday night. We're moving past the bitch that was last Friday and we're going to put it to bed tonight and then we're going to move on to Boston College. Well, we're gonna go in here. We're going to make some corrections. We're going to close the book other than the game Friday night. It was a good time, I mean, right? You You came over, kids came over kids frolicked, we had drinks great food. Oh yeah, at the Wilson man cave here. That's some Gino's had some, some G and T's had said a little little this little than that.

1:30 Well this little that and in the game came on and and then let's just get right to it you know, hope you start on one in the printt ride regime era or the loss of 22:17 and A lot of anger on this game. We felt it Friday night. Brian the game ended about what 10, 35-ish you stayed around my house or another hour as we vented? Yeah, definitely would have been a good reaction podcast, but I don't think I was venting and a lot of little bit of inebriation and little bit of cursing going on there. We've done that before. But this is a little different.

2:11 So, I mean, we've done podcast where I'm sitting in Boxer shorts on the deck in Gatlinburg podcast and live after after a game. So you know we could have pulled the trigger there but I think this new format is going to work better for us digest things. I get to look at the tape again and we get to kind of put put to bed. What was a bitter taste? I think for Week 1? You know a lot of anger, you know, regardless, Of the situation. I feel like that's when you can't lose. No, not just because of the opponent but also because when you look at your schedule You know you hate dropping one of those games that is very winnable. You know we're not we're not going to say it's an easy schedule.

3:02 There's no easy games out there, you still gotta line up and play and that we proved that on Friday night. You still got to go out there and execute, you still got to go out there and play the game. The way it needs to be played. And there were a bunch of bunch of parts of that game where we didn't play with the way, it needs to be played, no, not at all. And let's start with the biggest part and probably the biggest swinger that game was on special teams and literally, Maybe. The ugliest effing long snap of all time. That literally, when it felt like, it went 35 yards and it leads to that ODU score. I mean, it got snap to Suffolk to Suffolk, from from Norfolk. Yeah, that's impressive. And that kind of proved to be the one of the story that OT you needed us to screw up the score and it started there, you know, they will 73 right there, they get That to go 710 and it just it was one of those anytime there is a anytime you're the favorite any time you considered the better team are plays like that that happened and as soon as it happens it's like that's a confidence grow up for them.

4:12 They took the lead and you know, special teams just all night besides that. Obviously, I mean a 54-yard loss in the net. Rushing. Don't let the rushing stats fool you we did run the ball pretty well but Overall, take that into account a bunch of holding Block in the back for 30-plus joins that really, really hurt some good returns by Keshawn king and a really good punt return by DJ Harvey. So on the DJ Harvey it would he was past the 40 and been startled behind the 15 and it's like, we blew our feet all in that element of the game. Yeah. It was almost a 30 yard penalty on the, on the Harvey punt return.

4:53 Yes, you had a good solid. Return. And then, you know, you have to back up 10 from the spot. So that heard those other penalties hurt and penalties was really the biggest part of this game. Other than that big play in the snap and a couple interceptions by Grant Wells. But let's go ahead and pivot to the offense and Wells, you know, finish the game with four picks. When you look at the tape, I mean that all on him I'd say take the Hail Mary out. Take Take the hell marry out. You know, you don't know who's to blame on that first. One, there was definitely some miscommunication between what wells thought, yeah, Smith and or Gallo we're going to do and what they actually did. But the the other thing is the prop, the problem here is that there were 22 that were critical and bang one. Yeah, one, you got Pressman on an out route. You shouldn't throw it in.

5:54 If you're going to throw it, you definitely can. Throw it inside that got picked off. That's essentially three off the board. There, you're in field, goal range, and as long as you don't put it into Suffolk or stepping in the Suffolk, you probably get the, get the three there three there. And then the other one, you know, me and Curtis were talking about it when we were watching in real time, and then when I watched again, I kind of saw the same thing that's a ball. You just got to either throw in the dirt or if you're going to take a risk there, take a, take a calculated risk down. The field where you're either burying them deep or you did the first down. There's no, there's no sense in throwing three yard completion with a linebacker bearing down on your running back and even then probably throw was a little too much juice on. It could host have done better and brought it in, maybe but Haiti, but that it should have been thrown, it shouldn't have been thrown.

6:48 That's all it is. And if you're going to throw even if you go to throw that, you got to throw it sooner before the linebackers on your running back. It's one of those. Those mental things where it's like, you either, eat it, and throw it at Jalen, holsten's feet live another down, allow Peter more to punt it and make them go, hopefully 95 yards for a game-winning touchdown. But to your point it's that okay, you gotta know, down distant situation, it was third down. It was, it was more than 10 and you're throwing it. Three yards. Go downfield, you hit somebody downfield the way. They were throwing Flags, it could have been a phantom Pi call and essentially ends a game right there. And and those are the those two mistakes which they were critical errors.

7:30 Because If you punt the ball again, they went 60 yards on their last Drive, they did not have to drive extra. One of their field goals off of one of the turnovers. That was like okay. Like you you're setting them up one of their other one of the other. The first time ever they got it in until they didn't move the ball but they got us pinned deep against it. All the turnovers were just in critical areas of the field which you can say with there's a critical error everywhere in the field but the reality is for us, it was They pinned us the then short field for them. We took points awful, it wasn't like, it was one of those pigs where it's like this hurt nothing. Yeah.

8:13 He threw a pick to the 15-yard line from the from their 40. 50 k2d, Punk, who I think. By the time we got to the middle of the second quarter. Just before the first pick, I think we kind of at that point knew all right. This is probably going to be a game where points are at a premium as we're going along. And the problem that we had is that we left points. Lots of all over the field. I said it, I think I tweeted it. The grounds crew for ODU, is going to still be picking up the points. We left on the field by the time we recording this and they probably are between, you know, the Lofton catch down at the 3, yard line to set of it first and goal that was offset by the OPI which and you it was a valid opinion.

9:00 God, the problem is it had zero impact on on the route? So not that it should have been flagged but it's just completely unnecessary, both on our port and everything else. So that that one hurts because that's a play where it's a first down, whether he commits the penalty or not, and then right after that, you know, you miss on the, on the retrial and third down and now all of a sudden you're against snapping the ball in the Suffolk. We got to got to clean up, the mistakes. The mistakes were the, the biggest part of the game, impacted the game. The most procedurally. I've never seen that many procedural penalties in a game. I say that until I watched Rutgers BC, there was a fuck. Ton of them in that game too.

9:55 I want to say, I want to say Rutgers. Was it like eight penalties in the first half? Either eight or nine penalties in the first half. All right, well let me ask this just for reviewing the tape being that Collegiate level is that something that can be cleaned up and I'm not saying I'm expecting us to go from 115 yards of penalties, you know, close to on the offensive side of the ball, almost 50 yards and procedural Pinto, 30, 30 yards and procedural penny. Is that something being cleaned up in one week or is that a slow go? I think there's some that can be cleaned up. Up pretty quickly. I think the the pies are probably going to be the hardest thing to clean up.

10:38 I'm talking about the defensive ones when you look at the blocks of the back. I mean that's you watch film, you coach it. There, that should be an easy fix. When you talk about the offsides, that should be an easy fix. I don't know about the whole Dax calling the snap count thing because it was a silent count. So how do you call that? But that's neither here nor there. But, you know, things like that. I think could be cleaned up, so if you ask me like yes, 75% of that can be cleared up pretty quickly. The other 25% is going to take some time. Okay, let's hope the 75 is really quick. All right, let's talk about offensively kind of some Right spots. Let's talk about Keyshawn King because that kid blew up over 100 yards. Look great on the hundred on the shooting. The kick return look good in pass Pro, shout out Eric Carr out there today.

11:33 Putting that showing did you see the block? He got you a gift. He absolutely destroyed that linebacker. Come on. Yeah I think it will talk about the dead truck later. I'm going. Bring it up now. He's one on the depth chart and when Malachi Thomas comes back, From his injury. He should be one be, and I'm not showing any disrespect to Jalen Holston. The guy obviously is a team player. He does all the right things. But when we looked Friday night, Keshawn, King broke a big 30-yard had over 100 yards chance black came in and broke 20 yarder. Yep. And Jalen. Fortunately only had about 16 yards on four carries and I know he was banged up. I know he was banged up.

12:14 But it's one of those things where you get to a point. It's you love a guy doing everything right in practice but if you put them in the game and it just it doesn't click. I think this is a coaching staff that will reward that and we kind of already saw when you know black got more carries and King really blew up. Yeah, I mean kudos to King for really sticking with it. Yeah, during the times I know he I'm sure there were times in the last two seasons where he was extremely frustrated with his role in this offense and seeing him getting his opportunity and taking the most of it.

12:54 That's big so kudos to him like what he was doing. There are areas of like maybe, you know, here there where he was, you need a little bit more Vision, or a little more patience, but I can't fault the kid. He ran hard, he ran, well, he was, he did good. Once he got to the second level making guys miss and kind of finishing the run. And as you said with Holston, I mean, I get he's banged It up, and that's definitely, you know, not practicing all week hurts, especially for Week 1. But that being said, holsten's, a guy that's been in this offense, a lot in his hand opportunities At some point unless we see something significantly different happen this week, you know, I feel like he's a guy that can that has more of a minimal role for us going forward.

13:48 Then a guy that's going to be kind of the Bell cow. So that's just where I'm at right now. At this point, we'll see if, you know, if you turns in some more opportunities this week against Boston College where he's now, number two on the depth chart number two on the depth chart now. Yeah, That's going to be interesting to see because again, we had a great day running the ball, especially Keshawn King. Let's take a look at the tight end room. Nick Gallo, obviously, you set it. Since February Titans are going to be featured, a ton, Nick Gallows, seven catches 49 yards, Double D in there, as well for catches 24 yards. So 11 catches combined.

14:31 And I mean, I think you said it and obviously, if these Trends kind of Old up for the whole season that room is going to have a lot of receptions, a fair amount of yards for both the one and two for the one and two tight ends. And I know we saw you pointed out to me a couple times. You saw some good blocks from them, but you also said, it's something that they've still got to get better at yes, especially Gallo, I think Gallo is a guy that blocks really well out in space. He needs a lot of work. Is in line blocking and some of its just understanding, what is assignment is based on the alignment of the front, we saw a bunch of up a bunch of times where he was just going after the wrong man. Shipping at the wrong area.

15:22 Sometimes just flat getting beat when he did. Have those kind of one-on-one opportunities with the defensive end, he's got to get better at that and hopefully, you know, with some extra practice in the in the system at least Hill. He'll get those opportunities to at least get the scheme in the block right because sometimes just getting there is good enough, letting a guy go completely on block because you did the wrong thing is never a good thing. Yeah so the whole thing hope he can clean up but again continuously I think those are going to be mismatches, I'm sure you're hoping they bring your boy on we did not see him Friday night but I think as the season goes is Brent processing.

16:04 This pressure today it's We're continuing that we have to continue to create the depth. So yeah and I think you'll see more of him once he understands the offense, he still he's very much, you know what, for five weeks into this thing at this point, so I think that's going to come with time. I think we saw what Harrison Saint-Germain for a couple plays. I think he was out there a couple plays but you know, he had a spring, he probably has a little bit better grass of the system, so if you're going to go into that, that 40, that's probably why he was getting a snappier there. Especially since we didn't see Connor blumberg very much until the you know, Hail Mary started coming out there true. True going to be interesting to see that. Now, speaking of Bromley, because when he ran those routes, that was out of the wide receiver position in that room is hurting right now.

16:59 Obviously Kayla Smith got hurt during the game after having a big catch early, having 45 yards in the quarter that he Laid clearly he was going to be a big part of the game, the process that he's day-to-day he is listed on the depth chart. I don't know if that's for show, we never got any information about what his injury was. So I want to see how that goes but you know, the whale often had a couple good moment. Steven guys, nail had a couple good moments but that that room overalls hurt and if Caleb can't go for a couple weeks really this week more the next week. I mean that's gonna hurt that room and where you're probably going to have to see Connor Brent. Yeah, the question is going to be is if you don't want to rush Caleb back but at the same time if he's good you want him to go if he's not good, you probably want to hold him off and maybe even hold him off against Wofford before you, you know, welcome the Mountaineers in the town on Thursday night so that's kind of where I'm at with him.

17:58 I'm hoping that he's going to be good to go this week. I think getting more game reps with Wells is going to be a Thing. So I want him to get out there as much as you can, but obviously, I don't want to rush a guy back. It is has one of those soft tissue injuries injuries, or something related to an ankle or something like that. Take the time, you need get, right? Because we're going to need you more in October and we need you in September. That's very, very true. All right, let's flip out that room. Let's look at the offensive line and sir, I'll give you what is seeds grades for the offensive line. Run past and the cumulative.

18:39 For rushing grade. I give it a C+. I thought I saw some good things always saying, we went over 200 yards in your eyes say we're just slightly above average for that. Yeah. I mean they're the problem is is that there were problems across the board that kept rearing their ugly head throughout the game. Okay. I'll say a couple things so And I'm going to get to this in a second, but Parker Clements did not have a good game across the board. I thought Johnny, Jordan could have been better in the Run game.

19:22 I would like to see him in play better in the Run game. Not not bad, not a lot of negative plays but not a lot of see, a lot of dominance out of him. He should have been able to kind of reckon there so that was disappointing as far as past pro d - and I know you say okay we didn't give up you know sacks but There were there were moments were Wells was getting hit as he. Let go of the ball, obviously on the big plate of Caleb, he got freaking clobbered as he let it ball go and that that was a dime but he got on the interception. He was getting he had pressure in his face, coming from the right side, the first interception. And so he was getting pressured all night. I'd like to see him.

20:10 Maybe, speaking of well, step up and maybe try to take off a little bit more as those Extra pressure is coming in but the tackles did not play very well in past Pro. Saudi - great overall for them in past Pro and cumulative grade. I'm going to go D plus I could go c-minus d-plus but I'm gonna go D. Plus in this case, the negative plays I saw were impactful and I'm going to call out one person right off again, I already spent said his name. I'm going to call out parties, Log House, seeks, dog. Houses Parker Clement everybody.

20:52 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Parker's in the doghouse this week, I need to see better play across the board from him next week, and he's shown, he can do that. So that's why this was such a disappointing performance because he showed at times last year, he can be depended on at right tackle, you know? But he was, he had like four or five Olay blocks. Called Lookout blocks or you know a guy run past you just turn around and yell look out to the quarterback. We had a few of those just looked not as polished almost like he was thinking too much in the Run game and I'm going to I'm gonna give somebody else a little bit of a shout out. But I'm also going to gonna say a few things about them. Jesse Hanson didn't have an awful game, but Jesse Hansen is slow as shit with his polls.

21:47 That's not a good thing for a wisconsin-based running attack. Then we're going to He's got to get faster with those. I don't think that's a. I think that might be an issue, I think he is what he is. I mean, but if he's more consistent in the straight ahead and then the past Pro, how much do you get out of young more right? Dwight Vic chiming in. Don't understand why they don't bring a defensive guy over for some offense I think it's death right now the white because I think the guy I would look to to bring over would be like DJ Harvey and he's literally your top nickel Corner your top Returner and he's your number two Corbin, Dorian strong. So if you put them over the offense and he takes getting and he gets banged up, you're losing a guy at threefold. So you're saying in the 2000s.

22:39 Yeah. You had Macho and D Hall playing both sides, but you had some dogs behind them to. You are deep behind them who are deep behind them in those days. So again you know if the depth is built next year, maybe We can do that. But I don't see that right now. But um, let's flip it over. Let's do talk about the defense for a few minutes and the white brought up moving a player over. I mean, the defense to me played very well all night under 250 total yards for ODU, the defense itself only gave up 13 points which really impressive that you kind of see that now.

23:19 Are there some things we need to get home with? Yeah, we'll have one sack. We were there a lot. We only came home once I know that's a big something. You were kind of watching that. We were one step short multiple times. We could have either been a sack or Or at least affecting Hayden throwing the ball. Yep. Yeah. I'd like to see. Miss get home at least two more times and there was like, I said, a couple times, we were there close, you know, we still ended up again, one sec, we had two forced fumbles, seven tackles for loss. We but this email was nine. Numbing is that you know, we still are missing those tackles in the backfield where you got a quarterback or running back dead to rights and somehow they say By you and get either solid gains camper for a first down, something like that. We got to stop those because those are the ones that extend those drives and end up costing you points. You know, we had we had Blake Watson dead to rights in the backfield on that.

24:24 Fourth down play and you guys and somehow he's scored it through. They'll stop and they'll stuff to watch. That's something we've seen the last few years is just not cleaned up and I hope we would see it better. Now, I will say this, my lining on that at least nothing they may have broke out of the backfield but nothing went for anymore. I think maybe four yards was the longest where it felt like the last three to four years. It had been if they broke out of that, it was just a lot of air in front of them for 15-yard games that's not feel on it. Now, the other one you mentioned it a few minutes ago, where the penalties three penalties on defense and for penalties, excuse me, counting the Dax which we're still trying to figure out that rule, but the other three were for 30 yards. All Pi, the biggest one though, was the one that wasn't a pi, and that was the ball.

25:24 It was a key, fourth, and two, they go shot on the left side of the field. The ball went 10 yards over bound as soon as we it was thrown. You can see it, hit the white mark on the outside of the ODU sideline. The white Mark is essentially the Box can cut the coaches, can go into correct and it's that white car. They can't go into that. Yeah, it on the outside of that your being here. Well, funny story, me and Brian are screaming at the television. My wife walks in be like the kids are asleep. I'm gonna close the door. Now we got, we got We can get a little rambunctious there. I mean, that was in that that but them get down field and get three points.

26:10 Yeah, and the thing you hate about it is that I mean by the letter of the law, P i was committed but the ball was not not a catchable ball and that's where the problem is. I feel like that that rule doesn't get applied very often at all near know what nowhere near enough. I mean nowhere near be defined catchable. You know these guys aren't Stretch Armstrong, they're not out there you know with being to catch it with attachable Limbs and all this other stuff making plays. Yes, it's frustrating. But you know, those are penalties that I feel like If we didn't have all the other stuff I'd live with those. Yeah.

27:03 Yeah. But especially considering how much we were bringing pressure and things like that. And how much these guys were in? Kind of man or de facto man, looks and secondary. I'm okay, I'll be okay with that, you know, three or four p is a game. I'm not gonna be that angry with, especially if it's ones where You know are either questionable like the one we're talking about that was out of bounds or stop the play. That could have been even bigger. You know, I'd much rather take the pi. Then take a 50, 60, yard gain, very true on that. Very true on that. A lot of other weird stuff sort of aftermath. Obviously the one everybody knew about in the middle of the game, was the coaches getting stuck on the elevator from down the locker room up.

27:55 I've never heard of anything like that in my life. How does that happen? In a pretty new facility down there? And it was Pearson. And it was Sean Quinn trunk when they got caught in there along with some of the analysts because the first person you saw come back with Pearson, obviously that was thing. And then the blumrich and the fan, rushing, the field incident, Which he made an apology. And after the day it does not appear. That he will face any sort of suspension. It's really funny. You know, who Andrew Friedman, is here in Richmond, right? Weather guy. He's a UVA Grant and he put this big tweet out.

28:35 Like I see, nothing wrong with you. Did like guys running at the field, you don't know what's going on, like, they're taking their lives into their own hand. Rushing the field, right? Yeah, I mean, I didn't see anything egregious. He saw a guy running at him. He lowered his shoulder. A little bit and you know yeah may contact got fell down, is what it is. I don't it's not something that we should be making more of a work. I mean the apology is fine. I don't think it was necessarily necessary but if you make the apology that that should be the only thing that we need to do and then you just keep it moving. Yeah. So as bad as those two things where the shittiest part was, what happened during the game, to our players locker room with some they're saying between I mean, I've heard eight, I've heard 10.

29:21 I've heard twenty thousand dollars in items, stolen, and these when you in soon as you hear that, these are our players and our coaches personal belongings, you know, it is, it's probably guys, change is probably as watches their iPhones, whatever they carry with them. Yep. And odu's, wonderful security. Just let's guys dress up as janitors and just go on in there. If nothing else they want to keep this series. Every game should be in. Expert. Because clearly You know, I mean, people are talking about canceling, the series over this and I'm not with that. And I'll tell you one thing, one of the biggest reason, why for me, is that, at this point, it's a pride thing. Okay, if you cancel the series after losing back-to-back games in their house, it looks like you're running away from a fight and I don't, I don't think we can pull that whether it's something that went wants to entertain or not, Wouldn't have it at this point because that that's the way I would perceive it.

30:28 I would perceive like, okay. And that's the way a lot of people were saying oh, you guys are ducking playing in Norfolk now. Oh yeah, it's true, it's true. Now if we go back and like 70,000 dollars get stolen from the locker room and you take the dummy we. Yeah, if we go down there and beat them by four touchdowns and shit, still get stole, okay, let's have a conversation then but can't go down there and lose. by 32, a G5 team and they were like, yeah, I think we're going to cancel the series because there was theft Alright, so there we go. Let's shut the book is closed. It ODU over we start BC week this week, but before that, we obviously got some news and obviously some of the bigger breaking news today, Brian from Virginia Tech my son Kelly out of DW.

31:21 Daniel High School in Central South Carolina just north of Clemson. A three star quarterback commit It's to the Hokies. I don't know if that was late in the day. I don't know if you got a chance to take a look at this tape yet, I would have a chance to look at the tape. I have done a little bit of research on the kid. I mean, you know, I know Louisville was pressing hard for him. I think Oklahoma had given him an inviting supposed to be down there this weekend. He canceled. That to commit to Virginia Tech. So that's a, that's a big move, you know? It's again, it's not a You're the best really blows your skirt up in terms of accolades and you know, Big 4 star 5 Star type player.

32:04 But it's another solid player that we're adding. And I think it's the type of player that fits what Virginia Tech is trying to do on defense. Yep. And it's another player from that 5 Hour radius northern part just south of Charlotte there. So obviously he's in the radius that we're continuing to Pummel pretty hard with the kid committing. It does take us where around 39 in the overall Rankings and I haven't looked at that. A lot recently, I was really the season gets kicked off. We're sort of focused in on this, you know, few teams above us, have more commits than we do. So there are a couple chances that we could potentially jump back up into that 35 range. Under that's kind of brides.

32:48 I this year's long as we get to it. So it'll be interesting how that plays out. All right, Brian, let's go to some other news and notes from the world of college football. And let's start with the portal decision that came out just a couple weeks ago. Basically saying that now, there will be two windows for portal transfers. The first window will be 45 days essentially after the playoffs are announced. So roughly early December to mid-January and then the other is going to be a 15 day period from May 1st to May 15th. This is effectively IE, if you look, there are some spring games that are on the 27th 28th, sometimes even the 30th, this is roughly, the after Spring Mall period.

33:37 What do you like? What? Don't you like? What I like is the 45 days after the playoffs, it gives you enough time for players to evaluate their circumstances. Evaluate what's out there decide that the portals for them. Put themselves out there, it also wants, you know, you're wrapping up that It still gives you some time as a coach. To look at what's left and kind of fill in some holes that the portal created, whether you're grabbing guys from the portal, whether you're closing out a class before the second signing day there. So at the, I like that aspect of it.

34:18 I wish that the Met Peary was maybe a little bit longer full month. It least another week. Yeah. I mean, I'd say go at least 25 days, that's what I would go there. But I'd be okay with a full month, so that's a little short to me. But I feel like It's probably enough time, but I would have rather had maybe, like I said, at least another week or so to kind of really flesh that out. But this is a lot better than what we're dealing with now. And let allows coaches to while our roster building a lot, a lot better, you know? And now you got a situation where, you know, guys, once they make the decision in May, you're in, you know, they're buckling up for the the upcoming season.

35:09 You're bottling up. You trying to get yourself on the field with paid before potentially announcing in December. Again, we've been mentioning that it needs to be some control of this it you know it's good. The players have this ability to transfer essentially when they want to or wherever they want to. But now the wind is the big part because what you don't want is obviously you think about when roughly that first period end, it's going to probably be right. To the National Championship, three weeks before national Signing Day. So your point already if you like a kid and maybe someone maybe one of the underclassmen leaves the room, take your spot there. But also think about the implication when it comes to the winter workouts about there.

35:57 You've got those staffs putting enormous amount of time and I do a lot of that team but it's how they start individually. Start focusing on kids right at that point in time. If you got five kids, who don't I want to be there then they can essentially be gone and obviously more time for the other kids, I like the other piece and you mentioned and we talked about it, this afternoon, which added You now have coaches, once May 16th hit. This is our roster. Where I deficiencies where our strengths, we're not waiting on potentially some guy in July to commit to us. This is our team so storage strategic planning goes.

36:37 Lot easier. Also think about those color. Can't those camps. We've talked about and kids going to become in the next cycle. You know what your teams looking like can people leave the next year? Yeah. But the whole thing is, this is what we look like right now, where we going to need help. So it's really helpful for not only the Hokies, but all School strategically to decide how they want to recruit and how the game plan you're going to look coming fall. Yeah, it is. I think it's going to help the portal players, too, because I think with having the window guys won't be kind of lost. In the in the salts, right? I think a lot of guys put their names out there, not in those times of year where everyone's focused on there. So if you're not a big name with your name out there in the portal, sometimes that's going to get lost the day. You got everybody, putting their names in within the certain periods.

37:33 It's a lot easier to have a guy that okay. Well, I saw his name at the portal. Let's, let's see what he's about. Let's get some tape on him. Let's see how he practice. Let's see if you got any game. Last year. Absolutely. So good thing overall for the sport. Good thing overall for everybody. but then there were something better that is in our opinions that are overall for the sport long-term and that is the cfp essentially approved, a 12 team playoff, Something obviously we have had an episode Brian gave his his his diet right out back last winter. And believe it or not there are some things that Brian discuss that it's like, they listen the, the first one, I think me and you talk today.

38:25 The best one was the first essentially. Six will be the highest six Frank Conference champions and then the next Six highest-ranked teams. Now the big part of that is you have to be a conference Champion to get a top four seed. Yeah, I think I know we both love that. That's the one. I like that's the one. I think everybody should know that because it's like you've actually got to do something on the field against a significantly good fo to earn something, not just be given a top. See if I think that's the big thing is that, you know, these conferences exist for a reason. Reason, you're playing the extra game for a reason that's got a matter.

39:09 It hasn't mattered for a long time, you know, I think gone are the days of that, you know, one or two loss, Alabama team being in the top four because they're not going to be that team. That played the extra game. I mean, you can, you can apply the same logic to a Georgia or to an Ohio state had lost to a Penn State or Wisconsin, you know? If you don't play for and when your conference Championship, You're not going to be there, so that that matters again. Now, you can still make the playoffs but you will not be in that top four seat and that gives everybody a shot because if you win your conference you're in the playoff, you very well could be potentially in the playoff.

39:53 As long as you hate to say this, that year pit went six and six, I don't think they would have made it in that year. But if you are a, if you're somewhere between a 9 and a 10 win team your and you're in the power 5, you're likely going to be higher than some G5. I think this also sets a precedent that there is going to be a G5 schooling every Here without a doubt. You start going back and looking through the times, always, at least one. Now, the other one, this is the one that kind of got me Jack. So 1 through 4 gets about, those are for conference championships counting Samuel. The next 18 s will be playing games and they will be at the higher seeds either home field or a designated site determined by the higher.

40:41 See I love that because a it's I'm just waiting for the day, a typically team that plays in sunshine and 75 degrees has to go to a place Like Madison or Ann Arbor or places like that, where it's like, so what's the temperature going to be negative 6? Yep, yep. You know, it's going to be a foot of snow on the ground. I'll tell you what I'm looking forward to. I'm looking forward to potential appstate, hosting one of those games all have state hosting one of those game. Well, let's just do it back here. Think of that Marshall game back in twenty twenty nineteen, that we had a play in 2018, You 2018 when it was like 31 it was yucky, it was foggy. Those are some of the best games because it's like you can't out scheme.

41:36 Someone it literally is going to be a physical game and I think seeing some of these potential venues you know, you take a look and you kind of think about last year seeing some of those venues on that stage right? That seeing those venues on that stage for a super meaningful game. That will shout out somebody. We're probably getting to this at some point in the offseason and people continue to say, they do not think it changes. Recruiting she had out, John are all out there who me and him he put together some data for me about how much top 300 Talent goes to certain schools. People continue to say well it's not going to change it's not going to change. How can that be?

42:19 So how do you think it's not going to change if teams are getting two different levels of Of success. We saw that with the Hokies, right? The Hokies were team that recruited in the 30s. Got good started, recruiting in the 20s and then the team's you see this with so many. So every time I see someone well it's not going to change the way recruiting works. Yeah it is yeah it is couple of the other things, obviously it's going to be shaping up will be for quarterfinal bowl games and then obviously the semis and in the finals. Again, I think overall it's to me, it makes everything for the sport significantly better. Because some people say, well, oh, well, you know, some games just won't matter.

43:06 And unless it's a playoff, I can't remember who said it, can't remember. I think it was Desmond, Howard, He literally just said this, you're going to give 20 to 25 teams, hope at the end of October. Yep. Hope In hopes a dangerous thing. Yeah, yeah. I mean a lot of us are still coming off the the Hopi. Oh man. We're still detoxing after you know, getting ready for it and then we have one lost open the year. But yeah. So we talked about hope we talk about You know, you get into October, you still got something to play for and not just your conference Championship, but you got a chance to play in the playoff and playing a big game, potentially host a big game in the playoff, that's going to boost recruiting. You can't say it won't boost recruiting. There's going to be trickle down to these schools. Well, be, if I'm not saying is, I'm not saying it's going to be significant.

44:06 I don't say, I don't think all of a sudden, if you know a what's the school? That's like kind of in that top 25 well, it used to be a spy, but if we're if we're being realistic here, I don't know, man. I mean I was staying. I don't think I would stay, I don't think I would stay. So all of a sudden start recruiting like Alabama. No, but I think there could be a boost with that National brand getting even more prominent being on TV and then see the whole thing is it's the aisles. It's the more eyes on you or they're going to be some absolute destruction games. Yes, there is.

44:50 But that's every week in college football, we've been On the we've been on the in the Hokey, in the last 10 years have been on the wrong side of some. But we got on the right side of some just dog stomping competition. So that happens even when two teams are fairly decently matched up. So I don't want to hear this. Oh, but what about the? What about the ask weapons? Last weapons happen, all over. Well, here's the thing last year, that the Bills and Patriots just shouldn't have played that game Ron. The bills are so much better than the Patriots, they shouldn't have played that game. In the Bills beat the shit out of them but they played the game, right? You played the game, you give someone a chance because who's not to say that the best player on your team, doesn't get hurt in the first quarter, he doesn't come back and even teams like Georgia like Alabama localhost:8080 certain players they lose on their teams you know, as well as I do. Those teams are not the same, it's true. It's true man.

45:49 So overall wealth in playoff and they are saying 2026. I'm going to be straight up with you dog with my cousin. I think. ESPN going to Fast Track it to 24. Well, I think they see what the ratings are doing for the non college football, playoff games, and they're like, all right. Well, If we have these games, they're going to, they're going to draw more ratings in the current bowl games are that aren't affiliated with the college playoff. So let's add those in. Let's get a couple extra games in, December that matter? Yes, and he's home environment Center. And I mean he'll they can still do like a college game day for those if they wanted to all. They'll I mean they they undoubtedly would you done? Download go to the biggest one.

46:34 Heck, if you're in the honest truth is you might send different people to every location for that game. So it'd be interesting to see what they do. Oh yeah. Alright so before we get into the main topic tonight about knowing the enemy looking at BC we are going to take a quick pause from our commercial sponsors. Because we take a quick break, we'd like to tell you about getting your free website report from our digital partner, Grassroots, digital marketing Studio. They'll tell you how your website ranks on Google on-site, SEO and social media. No commitment to buy anything. You can get your free report by visiting. Grassroots digital studio.com forward slash free Dash website, Dash report.

47:15 Now back to the episode All right, Brian. So now some of our favorite time of the week and that's Know The Enemy. Let's take a look at BC and let's start on the defensive side of the ball. Let's take a look at cam Arnold the linebacker. Number 56, 1 227 pounds. He was a three-star out of the 2020 class from Orchard Lake. Michigan, what are we seeing on the cam? Arnold Kate. Okay. Emerald is a former safety so he's got pretty good. Speed. This is his first year starting at linebacker. They kind of converted him. This offseason. They had him there in the spring and he earned the starting role coming to the season. What I'm seeing is he's really good at pursue what you would expect from a safety rate, but he's still working on shedding blockers in the box but he does make plays he flies around and he's pretty good in coverage as you would expect from a safety that's kind of moved into the box. There he does a good job of coverage. Out there on a running back and isolated. Where are we seeing him?

48:20 Primary lineup is he playing well? Or she playing a little bit more on the outside. So he would be in the in the four to five in the Bud. Foster 425. He would have been a backer. Okay. Yeah. Alright awesome. Solid game up against You have against Rutgers had five tackles last year in a primary backup role, you know. 60 plus tackles three-and-a-half and loss in a sack. So obviously a young guy who is finding his coming into his own quickly in this half a defensive scheme. Now I know another guy you said the popped off at the tape while you were watching that game on Saturday afternoon by the way. Brian watch truckers BC, twice life. Twice, you deserve like statues.

49:12 Well, you deserve a drink for that. But let's talk about Vinnie DePalma. What are you seeing out of any De Palma? He's more of a traditional inside backer kind of that prototypical Mike type player. He does really well in the blocks inside the box as a tackler. Sure. And getting guys to the ground, probably one of the better in terms of just pure mechanics and tackling that you'll see on that defense they don't really use them as a Blitzer and they don't really rely on him a lot in coverage. He's not on the field when there's an obvious path situation, so when they go nickel when they sub, they're pulling him off the field pretty regularly. Yeah.

49:59 And I'm seeing Bryce steals name a lot when they come and doing that obviously dipalma, you know, a linebacker, you know, 61 about 225 was a 20-18 three-star commitment to the Eagles. Obviously, this is his covid year. Yep, I'm not mistaken. This is his covid year. He should have been gone last year, solid, season last year. Fifty three tackles a few tackles for loss. So I think the one thing is had nine tackles against Rutgers. We're going to see his name a lot regardless, my hope is its further up the field then at the line of scrimmage but when he's in there I mean that's kind of his job, right?

50:47 Yeah, he's kind of he's that guy that's kind of cleaning up in the middle there. Obviously, we hope that it's going to be more of that, you know, 56 yards, downfield before that contacts made instead of at the line of scrimmage. Absolutely. All right. So let's flip from the linebacking corps and let's take a look at the defensive back room because they do have some pretty good players there and let's start with a pretty highly talented guy that came to be sivaya transfer from Florida State and that's Jaden would be a six-foot-tall. You pay on defensive back safety. How to Fontana California at The Perennial power st. John Bosco out there a top 50 player top 10 safety in the country. Of course star, when he first came out, what are they using him as now?

51:34 Obviously for him to get that haffley experience with the go coach in the NFL potential chance to land in the NFL. If it's plate warranted this year, Yeah, he's kind of playing that that nickel whipped tape roll you definitely, as we've seen in the more modern version of this defense, more of a nickel type type position with with heavy coverage responsibilities, they like to match him up against the tight end and the slot and he does really good in that role. He's good in coverage, especially in man coverage but he's also really good at coming down and filling against the rush. So you kind of Cleans up that spill area, they're pretty good as well.

52:18 So he's definitely I'd say the best overall Defender, all that defense just because of how balanced he is and how much he can impact in the in the passing game and in the in the Run game and I'm assuming to would his body type and athleticism that lends itself to do a lot of things all over the field. Yeah. Yeah, they'll use them a lot of different ways, he'll Blitz. They don't Blitz a ton but when they do the, he's he's one of the primary guys that's blitzing and like I said, they liked him in coverage and they like him to kind of clean up the spill area and kind of press that edge. All right, so remember the name, Jaden would be not a huge popping game against rocker just five tackles one for loss, so we'll see how it goes. Now.

53:04 Let's take a look at probably what you told me is their best corner. Elijah Joan. Six-foot-two cornerback from Harlem, New York played at Cardinal Hayes. High School with Reese are recruiting the 2018 class. What's Elijah Jones showing you Brian? He's their best coverage Corner, kind of a good balance of all. Three, kind of disciplines. They're good in man above average, press about average Zone. They usually match him up consistently against the best receiver on the other team. They I to at least so we're probably gonna have to scheme some guys away from him to get some additional spacing in the passing game. You know, he had a pretty had a pick against Rutgers took it back.

53:57 Almost 40 yards, consistently, it looks like he's always been a good tackler you know, 25 plus tackles every season he's played All right, does it? Worry you if Caleb can't go? Does it worry you? That he would probably be matched up what probably Lofton or you think someone else? It depends on what we decide to do with Connor plumber. As weird as that sounds, that does sound weird. It does sound weird. I think, if we don't have Caleb, I think mixing in Connor is probably the best plan B, just because size and athleticism. He's the closest approximation to Caleb. So he could probably do some of that and fill that role a little bit.

54:47 I don't think he's as dynamic as Caleb is. I think Caleb right now is probably our best overall We're all receiver on the roster right now, so but there's you know, there's some potential there to get blumrich, some extra touches, and it might be something that that happens. It might not, I do hope to see blumrich out there in on the field more than we saw him this past week because I feel like he does create some mismatched problems. Well let's let's just this is kind of flipping Hokies that sideline pass well. He actually made the catch. He was out. Out of bounds. But that catching itself was impressive and it's what we would have been in bounds. If the safety didn't come and knock you out the safety pushed in.

55:30 So if nothing else, he's big body, just any, got some speed to send him down field. Can I ask this though? And we talked about a little earlier, I don't you can explain if they decide to match him up on Loft and obviously he's got a significant size weight advantage on the way in Lofton. What can we do to get DeWayne? Because we did see doing with some wiggle with a couple good catches last week. Yeah, I think we probably move in motion a little bit more to try to get some spacing at the snap. I think you try to scheme him. Open some more. You know, we saw We saw a play last week where we had to post to one side off of play action and we're and a krauser from the other side. Underneath that.

56:21 Had to clear out play-action worked on the like sucking the linebackers in stuff like that. My give him a little bit more room to operate. You know, we might see some other other other techniques to get him open. I guess. I think the biggest thing is going to be getting him in motion where they're not able to get in his face at the snap. All right. Good to know. All right, let's talk about last player. Let's look at the defensive line and Donovan is a rock. Ooh. I did not go to the pronunciation guide on that one. Let me see if I change either was very waku as my guess is your rock. All right, I didn't hear it enough on the PA during the game to tell you exactly what it is.

57:08 All right, well, either way he's number 6, keep an eye on and huge game against Rutgers 9 solo tackles Not usually, eight solo. Tackles two tackles for loss, a sack, he forced to fumbles. He was everywhere. He's 62. He's 236, so definitely little under sized defensive in Williamstown, New Jersey, and a freshman back yet, or a, or a freshman last year, sophomore, this year. So, a relatively young player when he was a three-star, what's it say, what's this? What's the tape? And what you see with him versus Rutgers?

57:49 He pops out on tape. He kind of reminds me of bar. No light. Okay, looking at him, they use them. A lot of the two-point stance coming off. The edge just like we did in 2021 with bar know. He has good speed coming off the edge. He disrupts, he has shocking amount of strength given his size and youth at this point and he uses that strength due to his Advantage. So probably a little bit stronger against the rush. But it's still a guy that you could potentially run at in order to mitigate some of that that speed rush off the edge and the way. We again, look for running the ball at might be the way to go. You mentioned kind of various pieces throughout talking about each of these Players.

58:34 Let's just get high level on their scheme. Yeah, and I talked about it, it's a four to five. It's very, very familiar so system in terms of the scheme but they're less aggressively blitzing, it's more akin to the I am model then it would be the Bud. Foster model, they don't Blitz the time. They rely on their pursuit in the Run game and getting pressure with four in the past game. So they're comfortable setting back and they're comfortable playing various coverages and they don't bring a ton of pressure. All right, so I guess that a lot goes into haffley being, an NFL guy with his roots, right?

59:18 Because you don't see as many aggressive schemes in the NFL, it's a lot more rush for play zone or various schemes. Some Zone, some man. How do you think we can attack this? I mean, the big thing is that kind of force them to over-pursue fooled them with misdirection that would be the primary way. I would attack them is, is try to get them pursuing one way in attack than the other. They do push hard when they're attacking the in the Run game and in the short passing game, they will get to the spot. So if we can get their eyes tricked, I think that's the best way to About it.

1:00:03 All right, let's flip over to the offense, take a look at that. And obviously we're going to talk about Folger Kovac first, the six-foot-five now. 214 pounds, took a little weight off of it from last year, if you remember him, Gibsonia outskirts of Pittsburgh for star in the 2018 class of the top five quarterback top 100 player. Bridgely went to Notre Dame. Came to To BC in the 2020 portal. He is currently one in one versus the Hokies in his career. And is there anything different popping this year compared to when you had a review for him a couple years ago? Because obviously we didn't play him last year. We did playing last year.

1:00:51 You just had there were he was a game-time decision? Yeah yeah we were, we were preparing for a couple different options last year so we didn't necessarily Focus as heavily on. Jerk over. Just because he was somebody that we were familiar with from from previous season. I'd say, the big thing is the weight loss. He's still a big guy, but he's got enough wiggle and speed to break the pocket when necessary. You know, we've seen it before he's got a big and mostly accurate arm, he can get the ball. Downfield can throw on the run. Pretty well sometimes throws the ball, a little too flat on those intermediate routes. So we got opportunities there to pick them off their little Order to catch.

1:01:32 So we might be able to you know as long as our Corners have good angles. There might be some that are hard part to catch there. But the big thing is that he does take risk with his body by staying in the pocket too long and taking unnecessary hits when he's scrambling. So that's going to be the opportunity to fluster him. Get him off his game. Rutgers did a good job in that in that game as it went on getting after gjakova. Can kind of taking them a little bit out of his game because they were somewhat dealing or early on in that game, especially the connection between him and The guy we're going to talk about in a couple minutes and as things were on Rutgers kind of started hitting him and it wasn't going quite the way they wanted to anymore. So that's going to be that I think the biggest thing we can do to attack him he will make a mistake with the football when he tries to do too much.

1:02:28 So we got to do better than we did this past Friday night and when those balls are hitting our BB's in the hands of got to bring that in, if I was going to ask about that. That because you know he threw three touchdowns he threw almost 300 yards under 60 percent completion percentage. We threw the two picks were they because he got hit forcing, or what it looked like with the two picked when you watch the tape, it was a mix of everything. The first one looked like he was more, just rushed the ball out, wasn't where it needed to be the One of the I think was a backer or a nickel was playing for Rutgers was playing, kind of that deep flat and he kind of saw where Phil's going, within sank back and picked it off.

1:03:21 The second was more of a pocket was collapsing type deal. Alright so one of those essentially something we saw a couple times bad decisions being made. Let's hope that he makes more versus the Hokies. Now let's be realistic here it is. Boston College. So the They seem to run the ball and with Pat Garo you know what's he what's he looking like this year you know the 5 foot 8, 2008 from Levittown PA top 10 player NPA in 2019 a three-star. What's he looking like this year? The first game it's kind of hard to tell. He looks like he has a little bit more juice in his legs. He did lose a little bit of weight in the offseason just like your Kovac did.

1:04:14 It looks like his ability to bounce out and get to the edge as a little bit better than it was in years past. But he still a patient Runner and mostly between the tackles not really Elite Speed, especially he's not going to break one, a big one. If he gets to the second level unless there's kind of clear sailing ahead of him. And he's not really used a ton in the passing game. That's definitely not his strength, but they will occasionally throw the ball to. I'm here there when they need to, but he had probably one of his worst games against Rutgers and it was one that actually started pretty well. Most the yards that he got was in the first quarter and a half. Oh wow. I mean, he only had 25, he was under two and carry against Rutgers.

1:05:00 And I mean, this is a guy who last year, you know, thousand yards rushing over five of care, you know, seven touchdowns. Obviously he's not a big pass catcher because he kind of is what he is. But I think we're going to get into why potentially, he is struggling a little bit more this year, but let's talk about the one guy on offense that Cannot let we cannot let him beat us and that is a flowers. You know they flowers every year just seems like he's there catching balls making plays, you know 22 touchdowns down his four-year career there, he was a three-star, he is a Florida kid from down in Fort Lauderdale in 2019 and I mean 117 yards with those two touchdowns on Saturday, man.

1:05:54 He he had Game. That's pretty big. Yeah, he's a dangerous deep threat. He's also that home run hitter on that short stuff. So he has a has a big yards after the catch game, along with being a deep threat that can that can burn you deep down field. So got to make sure we're not allowing home runs to him. Don't let him beat you with one play. He also plays the ball. Well on on back shoulder throws, which we saw heard us against ODU a couple times. So we got to be cognizant. That when he's in those deep routes, he's going to come back, try to make a play on the ball if it's under thrown and does a really good job with that, he had won the first touchdown that he caught was kind of an incredible kind of combat back shoulder where, you know, I don't know how he got how the ball got in there but it did and he was able to make the play on it. He's also a big-time threat in the return game. So we got to do good on special teams, containing him there as well.

1:06:54 Yeah. So you know, again, we have that one guy on the outside that can be that can beat us and, you know, we just, we cannot let it happen because you know, in their first couple games this year, it's really been. It was a and then the next guy we're going to talk about, you know. No one else had any more than two catches against Rutgers. Other than Zay flowers in George takas the number 80 tight end six-foot-six 247 pounds out of maple. Four-star. When he came out in 2018, again, went to the Irish then transferred to be see. I feel like BC has their portal school already set up when it doesn't work out there and you know, just this week, seven catches 84 yd.

1:07:44 I feel like between flowers and Tack is, we're looking at the same two guys again, just like we did at ODU. Yeah, I feel like Boston College is becoming like the relegation school for the Irish, anybody that's not consistently starting or transfers out of at a Notre. Dame is heading over to the to the other Catholic school there in Boston. But, I mean he's had back-to-back games. We've now had big athletic, tight ends that were dealing with And tag has had a good game against Rutgers, they like to use them up the seam on kind of the shallow crossers and those quick outs and where he's going to hurt us.

1:08:29 Probably the most is up the seam so that that's the one we got to be cognizant of and he's primarily used as a secondary read within the offense. He's not not the primary very often will hit him. Hit him on a couple of routes. Where he's the first look but usually he's the secondary read within the game. What about blocking do? We need to worry about him on the line. He does have good size obviously, or is it not in his game? He blocks, well, it's not his strong suit but it's not a liability either. All right, so there they are in now Brian. Let's talk about where their biggest issue is and it's something that I think probably shocked you a little bit as you were looking at it and that is the offensive line.

1:09:16 I mean obviously I mean this week running the ball mean they barely broke 40 yards. They had a total of actually they didn't break 30 yards, 29 yards on 28 carries not good at all. What is it, what is it showing? What is that lunch going now? Yeah and some of that's negative yardage on some sacks but it still was a pretty garbage performance by the offensive line and the running game is a whole this is not offensive line you this year guys, we're not looking at your typical Boston College, offensive line. They are pretty much all young and inexperienced after the ACL injury to Christian Hagen e this off season, that really We put them behind the eight ball, they had one returning, seasoned veteran and then you lose him too, right?

1:10:10 Now they're looking like in terms of guys with experience Ozzy trapillo whose class of 2020, started a couple games as a four-star, Prospect out of high school, he's really the best linchpin they have in terms of that. And I think he's had two starts in his career before before Rutgers. So The Run blocking wasn't bad but it was so inconsistent that they couldn't really consistently, get to the second level and they just BC felt like they needed to abandon that because it just wasn't getting the getting them ahead of the sticks. And when they went to pass Pro, it was even worse when they were early in the game when things are a little more balanced Djokovic had some time. Once they kind of went full full, Acid Rutgers was pinning, their ears back, Jacoby was getting crushed. All right, so obviously issues there and obviously they obviously had a changeup in scheme this year because I can remember Frank cignetti left them. Went over to pit and now you know they're looking at John McNulty who John McNulty's.

1:11:26 Last stop was a tight end Coach over at Notre Dame. So what are you seeing? Does it does it make sense that he has a he was a tight end Coach faded from what you've seen. Yeah they run multiple lot of 11 and 12 Personnel, pretty heavy 12 to start the game. It went more 11 as as things went on about a 60/40, pastor run is what they would like to be at obviously Rutgers kind of took them out of their game plan by the middle of the second quarter in that game and it was Very much a one-dimensional offense, which if we can do that, I think that's probably our best case essentially make them one-dimensional.

1:12:09 And make sure say flowers, doesn't beat us with one play. But, yeah, the offensive line is definitely their weakness, and it's gonna hinder the heights that they could potentially reach because they're not going to be effective enough consistently in the Run game, and that's going to mean that your code is going to be dropping back. 35 + x, a game, trying to win it with His arm and hopefully get to getting enough touches. Buys a flowers where they can make something happen. All right. Let me ask this concerning, especially at offensive line. If I front seven, comes out and plays the way they did against odu's at good or do. We need to be at a higher level? I think we need to be at slightly higher level. When I'll say that, we need to finish plays better.

1:12:51 We talked about it earlier, whether it's a tackle for loss, whether it's a sack, we need to get home and we need to make sure when we get home that we finished the tackle. Alright? Good deal. So that's Know The Enemy, both offensive and defensive, take a look, some players in some of their schemes. Let's flip it over to the Hokey keys. Told Brian this morning, we talked or this afternoon, we talk Brian have to change much up from last week what we were discussing, but it's written a little bit differently this time. So, obviously, the one I had up last week was turnovers and we've already talked about it a few times tonight. Obviously, we were negative 3 in that department, then the turnovers led to roughly 17 points of offense for or production for ODU.

1:13:41 Again, we talked about the locations, we've talked about where they were, but when you're negative 3, you should never expect to win a game. A, yeah, I mean, it puts you behind the eight ball and you couple that with, you know, something we're going to talk about later and it's just it's so hard to overcome no matter the level of competition that you're playing. But I mean turnovers is something that we're going to have to limit, you know, we can't have we specially To have them on special teams, that should be you know you snap it and kick it if you miss it whatever but we shouldn't be giving the ball over. We shouldn't be giving up points on special teams, we should never see that. So absolutely, that's number one. Number two, You know, we talked about Grant Wells, we talked about making some smart throws in the decisions. So yeah, two of them were grossly, Bad Decisions by Grant Wells, specifically by Grant Wells. You know, if he if he cuts down on that, you know, I'll take the ones where there's a miscommunication. I'll take the ones when you're just trying to make a play. Yeah I can't take ones where you see Pressman and you still throwing out.

1:14:58 On the inside shoulder, I can't take the ones where, you know, we need 15 yards for a first down and you're throwing a 3-yard. Check down to a guy with the linebacker on his back. Cut those down, cut those out. We can live to find another town. Yeah, so for the Hokies it's clean up now. I will say this BC is not exactly clean. I mean, they had three turnovers versus Rutgers. The two picks 50 kopecks in another fumble. And this is the team even with three turnovers had a lead under three minutes to go. Now, obviously, when Rutgers was without their starting quarterback and without their primary weapon in their tight end.

1:15:42 So they were missing a few things but still a team that turned the ball over a lot, including they had 14 points off turnovers, including one that is literally at the Yeah for Rutgers. So I see that if we can if we can it's one of those like who cleans up their turnover act faster the Hokies or Boston College could win this game. And I know we've been talking about it all night, the other Keys Battle these. We just don't expect to be perfect. But if penalties, if we don't clean up penalties by 45 yards, I don't think there's any way we can win this game. Well, if you look at just the procedural penalties alone, that was about 50 yards against ODU.

1:16:30 So if we clean up, just the procedural stuff, which is the easiest thing to clean up, you know, you're kind of hitting that Benchmark out, the gate. If you do that, and cut the turnovers at least in have, at least down to one or two, then there's a chance. You can make some some magic happen there. You know, you said it and we've kind of talked about it ODU, you know, we we didn't play well. You know, when you look at what beat we, when we look at what BC did they didn't play well against Rutgers and you said it all unisa. Yeah, go for it. You say would be seated first well BC shit, the bed against Rutgers. We let a cow shit in our bed and then we decided to jump in it, we as just wasn't one.

1:17:14 I threw up. Ours was a bunch of screw-ups. And literally, not only do we let it happen. We just continue to wallow in it over and over again. That was the issue. It wasn't necessarily mistakes or me, it's football. Mistakes are going to be made. It's like they were happening over and over and over and I know Prime mentioned it in the one thing about while giving big shout-out price said it the first minute. And this is where I think the difference is first minute of his pressure after the game. The players were pressing. The players were pressing. I have to do a better job of not making them press within the first minute.

1:17:59 He put the accountability and I think for a lot of people for the last five years, that wasn't the case. What was it always? Brian. It's always a t word, execution, always execution in Brian. Eventually got to the point where he said the motherfucker, you're the one coaching them you need. Teach them to execute better and you need to say that you need to teach them to execute better. Yeah. If some at some point it all comes back to you either, either you're not preparing them, you're not coaching them. Well, enough to be prepared or your recruiting the wrong type of players you need for them to be prepared. So it's at some point, it's coming back to you. You know, we can make excuses for a season here or season their of, okay? We just don't have the right, right guys, or not getting it done.

1:18:48 When you start seeing a Pattern. That's what he's that's when it's got to go. So that that's that's the difference in. You know, I'm glad that we have some accountability but at some point obviously on this regime accountability is not going to get you where you want to be either eventually you got to fix those things. Go out there and get it done and get it done. All right, so speaking of getting it done, I think the third key and this is one that was actually fun to look at. And think about was the rushing offense. We had even with a poorly block gang, or a slightly above-average Block game on the running versus that BC run defense. We've already mentioned it.

1:19:29 Don't let the stats fool you when there is a 54-yard scoop and score or by remember this, they take it off of the rushing totals. Realistically. The Hokies went over 200 yard realistically, 5.3 carry. I'm looking at the Rutgers game. You saw it? Brian! I'm looking at the data Rutgers went 40 to 42 12. All three of their touchdowns came on the ground. Give me a reason. Why is that brown? Why did Rutgers who? It wasn't the most talented team? Basically get five carry on BC. They're a little soft in the middle. I think we have some opportunities between the tackles to hurt them.

1:20:14 They do have some good players out on the edge in The Spill area and they're going to try to Spill the rush out to those areas and let those guys clean up. But they are a little softer in the middle and I think that's where we Taking advantage, you know, you got a safety playing linebacker, still learning to get off blocks. I think, I think that's where we can kind of make some hay, and if they don't clean it up, I think that's our opportunity. Yeah. And this isn't just like a one-time thing because BC was not good last year. They were 90 s, it like 178 a game. So this is clearly an ongoing issue for halfling, his coaching staff with the potential to scheme change, you know, even though it's a four to five, something more traditional car, College not playing at the college way, which walk-in safeties up to the line filling gaps.

1:21:00 You're going to without having the correct defensive Personnel, you're going to give up some yard. So, you know, it'll be really interesting to see. You know what team is able to convey turn it all around and you know, that's where we land here at our game predictions. And you know is you know, you know, three weeks ago I'm sitting here. We're saying Out in three weeks and four of five and seven in. Right now, some of the games I foresaw as potential wins, I'm recalculating and I can't do it until I see change. So unfortunately for me I've got to take BC and I got to take them and it's going to be a dogfight. I got to go 2824 you know Brian's heading up to Blacksburg on Saturday I wish I could I've got some things going on but what do?

1:21:54 You think Brian. Are you going to be driving back down 81 Saturday night happier? It might be a long drive back and I'm kind of right there with you and I'm actually with you in a little bit more. Dramatic fashion I've got us coming up one point short 28 27 BC. I need to see it. I need to see us in prove I need to see with Improvement. Does that mean that the offense looks a little better more cohesive in terms of putting points on the board? And until I see that it's her too. Trust that we're going to see significant difference. I think there's going to be Improvement, don't don't get me wrong.

1:22:36 I think we're going to see a good amount of improvement week one to week two. I don't think we're going to be in that I don't I don't think we're going to be plus 10 in penalties. I don't think we're going to be at five turnovers but I don't know if we're going to do enough cleaning up. Relative to what BC does to get it done. All right, some prawns and 2827. I'm in 2824 both going BC. Hope we're sitting here. Seven days from now saying we're completely wrong. It went wrong. Last we got, I'd love to be wrong again this week. Love it, love it. All right, let's go real quick. Do big screeners brine. I'll leave you with this one as well.

1:23:16 I am hoping after the Hokies make me, prove me wrong. Long. I'm gonna probably be watching very closely the BYU Baylor game, obviously, future Big 12 that's going to be out at BYU. Great atmosphere out there. I expected to be a brawl, Baylor is laying three in are getting three and a half points on the road. I think this game is going to be tight anyway, so when the team I shade and feel a little bit better about getting points. I want to take Baylor and three and a half. Both teams are ranked burned, by the way. Just So you want to know, I know you will be in Blacksburg and what game are you going to be trying to check out at Sharkey's, PK's tots wherever you may Land?

1:24:02 Once you're down in the Homeland. Yeah, I'm going to actually take a look at that Tennessee pit game. I think there's some interest there on both sides. We obviously got, you know, Hendon quarterbacking the The Tennessee Squad there while we got pit is a game that we're going to look towards later in the year couple couple 757 products on that pit team. So you know you got you got some interest there as well. So when I look at that, I feel like this is based on what I saw week. One, this is Tennessee right now. They've got a seven-point. I'm going to take, I'm going to lay the seven.

1:24:42 I'm taking Tennessee. All right, he is taking to the su-27 and I'd be with you on that just because of what we saw from pits defense and and if you can say lots of first game of the season like, yeah. But they had a game in front of them, they needed to get up and essentially their offense and partially West Virginia, save them, it'll be interesting to see that game. All right? Brian one more thing, it's not on the rundown but I got to let your aunt. Preseason rankings. Welcome. It's the most ludicrous thing ever invented. Especially in a situation where all the future rankings are judged against the original rankings. And that's my biggest problem, is that, you know, I saw, I forget who it was but, you know, I retweeted it. Someone was on the timeline.

1:25:37 Yeah, we got, we got it, we got a blue check on the timeline, trying to talk against a 12 team playoff because Oregon got their shit kicked in. Well, they also lost their head coach last year, and now, we're figuring out. Okay? This Oregon team is an 11, ranked team. As it currently stands, we learned that they're not in 11th ranked team. We didn't learn that. Oh, and levantine got the shit kicked in. So in 11, ranked at the end of the season is going to be the same fucking thing. No, it's not going to be the same thing because we will have played games at that point and whoever that 11 seed is, will have a more deserving reason to be a fucking Concede then, Oregon. This is so much fun every year to get you to go on the preseason rankings rant, because there's always somebody doing something talking about how especially late in the year you really want to get Brian.

1:26:31 Come back. If Joy, if organs like 4 and 8 and somebody looking well, you know, George is being a few top 10 teams, top 15 teams, but I'll be like, wasn't weak one. But was it was it even in September? And you've always said, rankings should be there, you know, it's one reason. I don't mind. Power rankings, I have a problem with official top 25 rankings. Yeah, the official PSP and do their power rankings. Let whoever wants to do Power Rankings based on, you know, preseason early-season don't make it an official top 25 because again it throws off the calculations the whole rest of the season Brian. Would be okay if you went after three or four games, at least you have a body of work done, right? Yes, 3 and 0 to 3, you know, and you beat three really crappy teams.

1:27:26 Your 3 + 0 + UV. Two. Really good teams and one above average team, your 3 and L is not the same as their three, you know. Give me rankings the first Monday of October. There you go. That's why. That's one reason. You probably one thing you've always liked about the playoff is they go deep into the sea. even before they turn them off, they go the seven weeks in seven seven weeks in and at least then, you know, the problem with the committee is that when it all comes down to it, They're going to put in a blue blood. That brings in the most money over another tea and it most of the time, most of the time.

1:28:09 But in terms of how we get there, at least the the process is better than the preseason shit. Well, my comment on preseason rankings, they're about as good as an ejector seat and helicopter. Think about that one, as you get ready to go to bed tonight. Y'all Brian, anything breaking. I'm not seeing anything but nothing breaking the depth chart came out. You're feeling a lot better seeing kilise feeling better about the wide receiver room. Yeah we got a couple more young young receivers making that that depth chart. We got Jalen Jones. Thankfully seems to be back up to speed where they're putting them on the depth chart.

1:28:52 I saw Christian moss on there as well. Those two are going to be big in terms of death at the receiver position. We also saw Caleb on there, whether you throw it on as a courtesy, or whether he's going to be good to go for the game. Obviously, it's probably too early to tell there, but hopefully he's good to go against BC. And then, we also saw obviously, you know, Brianna Marie back in there. So, coming off the suspension and Tisdale we found out more about that. Yeah, apparently eligibility situation. So, he's weird. Yeah. I don't think we're going to see him this week. He's apparently week to week as they resolve that eligibility issue but at least you know, we know what it is and now we know it's he's not in the doghouse for. Nope.

1:29:39 Anything off the field. He's not his play. He hasn't fallen off to a point where he can't help us. So that those those are two things that are. I think positives to take away from that. Very nice. Alright, so now that we got the couple breaking things, I wrote down here that's on me we are going to wrap up this episode of The Boundary Corner podcast. I'm Curtis Wilson, I'm Brian Siegel visit our website, boundary Corner BC BT.com to listen to all of our episodes while you're there, don't forget to follow us on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, subscribe on our YouTube account, and your favorite podcast Source. Including Modify Amazon and apple podcast please leave reviews.

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