Know the Enemy: Boston College

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Music.
And welcome back to the Boundary

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Corner Podcast with my partners,
Brian Siegler and Jonathan

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Talley.
I'm Curtis Wilson, and this

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episode is brought to you by.
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Main Street Pharmacy in
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Your friendly neighborhood
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Blacksburg.
Fellas, it's been a rough

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weekend.
How's everybody doing?

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Still pissed I'm living.
I woke up the the the food

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tasted like shit, but I'm still
here, so.

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Food tasted like shit, but
you're still here.

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What?
Food tastes bad after the loss,

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man.
Whoa.

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Everything with no loss.
A little while.

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I want the ass kicking as.
The ass with it.

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We got our ass drilled, We got.
Crushed by Louisville, which we

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are going to definitely get into
tonight.

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Don't worry about that.
Y'all.

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We also are going to take a look
at the Boston College game

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because this becomes a very
pivotal game in the Hokies

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chances of making it to a bowl
this season.

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So we're going to talk about
that, know the enemy, breakdown,

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some of their players and some
stuff.

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But before we get into all that
tonight, let's talk about hoop

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season starting last night.
Let's start with some bright

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spots and let's start with the
men's first as they take care of

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Coppin State 155.
Just an absolute thrashing from

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beginning to end.
And I don't know how much y'all

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got to see.
It was a Monday night, things

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going on.
We all got lives.

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What were y'all's takeaways from
it, Ron?

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What was your first take away
from it, man?

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I mean I I like the depth I'm
seeing so far like out the gate

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I'm seeing a lot more depth, you
know a little bit better in the

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front court, a little bit better
in the back court too.

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So I think overall I like what
I'm seeing so far.

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I like the, the addition of
Nickel having an an extra

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sharpshooter out there.
You know, you throw in Rex

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Steiner too, I mean.
That's that's a good combo to

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have out there that can shoot
the three nickel kind of score

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from a bunch of different spots.
So that's going to be a good off

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the bench 1-2 punch for us.
Just kind of looking forward to

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see how they progress in jail as
the as the season goes along.

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Let you tell.
I know you were at your son's

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game watching him hoop it up,
but obviously I'm sure you

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checked out highlights, did some
reading, did some stat watching.

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What do you think?
Yeah, kind of like what Brian

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said.
I mean, the depth on the team

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was.
A good thing looks like

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everybody who who got in and
scored, which is always good.

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Of course when you blow somebody
out, you know, so everybody got

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in and got to get, you know, get
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Team looks bigger.
You got people coming off the

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bench with some size and depth
and you got some veterans You

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don't.
You don't.

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It's not just young players.
You know, when you seem to run a

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system like Mike Young, you got
to have some veteran leadership

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because.
I mean, you're not going to get

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five stars just coming in,
coming in, you know, ready to

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play.
So having some of those players

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that are transferred in,
veterans have been, you know,

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seniors or juniors definitely
helps.

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Especially when you're trying to
play for something like, you

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know, getting into the
tournament or if you do get to

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the tournament, you know going
deep into the tournament having.

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Somebody who's kind of been
there and seen some different

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things helps.
So good balance of old and young

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players.
Yeah, I'm with y'all on both of

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that.
And Brian, you mentioned him

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earlier, me and Tally were
talking about.

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Tyler Nickel, There's a reason.
Tyler Nickel, So many records

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here in the state of Virginia.
There's a reason Carolina wanted

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him so bad and the way he looked
coming off the bench, I mean his

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his stat line last night was 4
for 9 from the field, 12 points.

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He grabbed seven boards, had a
block.

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And Tyler, you said it just
second ago.

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We looked.
Bigger.

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We looked bigger between him.
Kidd looked bigger than he did

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last year.
We going to get there, Eric,

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That's our as as one of our
buddies, Eric there chiming in.

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Eric, we're going to get there.
Got to give us a little while.

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Got a lot to talk about.
We look bigger, we look more

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physical.
Between Beran, Kidd, Obviously

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Padula, Collins and Couture
Older along with Poteet.

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And Long and I was telling
Tally.

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I think that this team, I mean
it's great to see all of all,

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all 11 guys score that played
last night.

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It's great to see that.
It really is.

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But I sit here and with the
starting five, as long as we can

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get something every game out of
Poteet, Long and Richtensteiner,

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along with nickel, again,
quality minutes, they ain't got

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to go out there and score 15
points a game.

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But it's go in there and be
effective.

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The team can do a lot.
But let's be realistic, Callie,

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you were looking up there.
You were saying it's going to be

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on ACC Network.
We did not get a test this early

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against a division, a Power 5
opponent, but we get to play

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South Carolina on.
Thursday or excuse?

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Me Friday night, I don't know
much about them.

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I'll be honest.
If you know y'all, I'm sure

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David Cunningham's writing
something up, but I think

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getting a test that early.
What do you need to see from on

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Friday night, both of y'all?
I let Tally go.

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Brian, go ahead.
Well, I'll go.

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I mean, mainly for me, man, when
it comes to basketball, I'm

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always like, I don't care about
all the fluff on the schedule

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until you get the ACC play.
You know, when you talk

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basketball, when you get the
conference wins or conference

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games, everything's a little bit
different.

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Everything's a little bit more
intense.

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So we have been starting the
season kind of like you said,

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Curtis Whit.
A lot of teams and looks like,

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oh, we're rolling and then next
thing you know you hit some

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Power Five type teams and then
you start to get into ACC play

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and things just fall apart or
you start seeing the true team

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come out.
So I don't know much about South

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Carolina, but I do know that
there's South Carolina there,

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SCC opponent, you know, and it's
the second game of the season.

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So it's going to show you, you
know, a little bit and it's, I

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don't want to say it's going to
show you what team you have, but

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it's just good to see it early
in the season.

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You know what I'm saying?
For better or worse, you got

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something to build on because I
feel like we were kind of riding

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high last year until we played
with College of Charleston on

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somebody weird.
And next time, you know, you

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start seeing some inefficient
play in that loss and some

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things that people kind of took
advantage of.

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So playing against a team that's
probably, you know, similar in

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size and skill, Again, don't
know a lot about South Carolina,

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but you know.
Know they're probably going to

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have some size and some skilled
players.

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You know it's going to show us
kind of what we what we got for

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the year and what we can make
adjustments and things like

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that.
Matt, you Ron.

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Yeah, I agree.
I think this is going to kind of

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be that that early test kind of
similar to what we saw from Penn

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State last year.
Hopefully that's not a a 40

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minute grind fest like that game
turned out to be, and then

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obviously.
You know what we did against

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college at Charleston I like
Tally was saying after that so

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but I think it's a good test
like like he said there's going

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to be some size they should have
some decent guard play that

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we'll need to get used to as we
get into conference play because

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I think when we got into
conference play last year any

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team with guards they they
really gave us some fits we we

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we didn't show up the way we did
two defensively against those

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type of teams so and we see
better play on that front. 100%

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and and it's good.
South Carolina but it's not just

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South Carolina because then we
got Boise.

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Boise was a tournament team last
year.

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Don't forget that.
And then we play Auburn who was

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the number two seed last year in
the ACCSEC Challenge later on

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this month.
So I think it's what Y'all said

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earlier last year it took five
games and then we play College

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of Charleston, who was a good
team, who did make the

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tournament, if I can don't
recall, or if they were one of

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the better teams in the So Con
and that that that messed us up.

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Penn State wasn't that there
were an OK team last year.

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Here we're probably going to get
you're getting again AP5 in

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again, AP5 in South Carolina,
and then two teams that made the

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tournament and Boise and Auburn
over the last five years have

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made the tournament
consistently.

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You know they're good teams and
there's your barometer.

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Go in and beat those two teams.
Maybe we feel something

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different, but maybe not.
All right, let's flip off that

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and let's go over to the ladies
side because they also played

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both in Castle for those who are
in Blacksburg.

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I mean back-to-back games in
Castle with the ladies #8 ranked

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who take care of the high point
Panthers 9455.

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And I mean this, this, this.
Similar to the men this wasn't a

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game after the first half.
It did.

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It didn't even feel that close
because, I mean, they jumped.

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They really jumped on them in
that first quarter and just kind

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of wrote it out after that.
Yeah, Liz was good as always.

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But having one extra shooter on
the floor, they've got a shooter

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everywhere.
Then they got Liz in the post.

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That's going to be hard because
you can't double team Liz all

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the time like teams were doing
last year.

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Liz is a monster, man.
I mean, she's just a 20.

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I think she had 2711, something
like that.

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Yeah, it's just 12 or like 12 or
17 shooting.

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It's like.
Oh, Andretti back.

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I'm about to get on.
I'm about to get on him later.

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Welcome back, Andretti.
But yeah, Liz and the postman,

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it's going to be a nightmare for
most teams that they play.

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And every year is different.
You know what I'm saying?

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Like during the summer, you're
going to get better, you're

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going to jail, you're going to
get worse, whatever.

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You can see it in.
In LSULSU came out and got the

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heads beating.
And really, in the first game

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now I don't put it put it on
him.

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So you know it's not just.
Oh, well, this team's going to

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win it.
We, you know, you got to go

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play.
So to see a star come out like

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she did against a inferior team
and just go and dominate and do

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what she's supposed to do, you
know, that's what I expected.

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But it's good to see.
Yeah, I think she made her first

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nine shots or something from
the, yeah.

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Some crazy she was. 12 She
scored 27 points, I mean 27 and

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11 was the stat line.
But y'all y'all make the point

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of Brian.
You made the point about having

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the out the additional shooters
because you had them more.

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You got King and now you've got
a few others that can K who can

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light it up.
But take a look at Olivia Sumal

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stat line. 20 minutes played.
She only had a couple points,

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four points grabbed, eight
boards blocked a shot.

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She's a six, two.
She's listed as a guard, but at

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six, two again, it's that whole
piece of we.

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Need a more?
Physicality, right?

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That's what lost us at LSU game
was having the physicality.

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We wore down.
We wore down late.

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In between Michelle and her,
they both grabbed eight boards.

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That's big.
That's big because the whole

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thing, what that means is what
you said.

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Kitley is a beast, and now
Kitley doesn't have to go in and

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fight and claw all the time on
the interior.

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We know she can do it, but
there's some games it's going to

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be like.
We got to save her because we're

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going to need those baskets in
the fourth quarter now.

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Now they've got you won't talk
about a monster game, Monster

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game 8 versus 2 in Charlotte
Thursday night versus Iowa and

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Caitlin Clark, I mean I was
discussing with Brian here, you

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watched it.
You going to watch the NFL game,

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you can watch the ladies hoops
games because.

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And there's bears.
Fuck the NFL game.

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It's.
Bears Panther If you're not a

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fan of either team, it doesn't
matter it.

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Doesn't matter unless you're
gambling or maybe you got

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somebody in fantasy on there
just want to see Khalil Herbert

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run or something.
But like, I mean you you won't

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talk about Barometer that's
going to tell the story for both

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those teams real early in this
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Right.
Yeah, we're going, we're going

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to see how how much that mix up
is working for this team

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obviously I think.
We have a little more gelling to

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do than they probably do just
with you know some of the holes

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that we're plugging true.
But when you look at it, having

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having Liz in the post, having a
more that can get her own shot

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and then having three other
three-point shooters on the team

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that can stretch the floor and
give Liz those one on ones.

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You know what?
I I I think we're going to give

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them some problems.
I know Caitlin Clark is a beast,

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but I think we're going to give
them some problems.

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We'll see and.
Obviously, probably, definitely

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going to have a home court
advantage down in Charlotte.

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Tons of Hokies if y'all hadn't
seen it, a bunch of people you

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know in a Charlotte area, you're
going to be there.

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It's not a long drive from
Blacksburg either, so I expect

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that to be a hokey leaning
crowd.

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All right, one more thing to
talk about before we get into

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football here and let's talk
about probably.

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I don't know.
You can argue between women's

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hoops or men or wrestling, which
is the bigger national power

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right now.
Wrestling opened up this week

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with the Southeast open, which
was down in the New River Valley

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area.
Y'all know I had a tight text up

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our buddy David Fuqua.
Me and him got back and forth

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because I knew it was happening.
I knew he's paying attention at

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it like crazy. 5 Hokies took
wins in it.

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Four of the freshman or
sophomore variety, he explained

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to me.
In this tournament, every year

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you have your basic or you have
all the weight classes, but

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there's also a freshman,
sophomore stuff so that the

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younger guys get out there and
compete.

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We took four of those.
Kayla Penson, who's obviously a

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beast upon himself, you know,
made podium last year at the

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national finals.
He won his bracket.

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Sam Fisher.
Who was, I believe, a younger

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guy last year?
He finished second.

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The only guy that beat him was a
#3 ranked player or #3 ranked

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wrestler in his weight class in
the country for Oregon State.

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So that's a good start for that
kid.

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What?
Dave's a little bit concerned

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about with future.
A little bit concerned about is

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Sam.
Latona got knocked out in the

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semis.
He finished third place.

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Sam obviously did some big stuff
last year, but.

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I asked him, I was like, well,
how do you feel?

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He's like, overall this is a
really good showing and for what

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we did, especially with the
younger guys coming up.

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And then I asked him about Ohio
State because that's a big one

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Friday night.
And Castle, I'm sure Castle will

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be packed.
I'm not sure if it's on ACC

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Network or anything but.
The.

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Explanation was this, and I'm
going to read it here from David

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earlier the season.
Wrestling will not put stress on

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players.
If you were slightly nicked,

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don't matter.
Get healthy.

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So what?
He said.

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This could be.
And I know I'm doing a lot of

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talking here.
I literally got me and him have

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a conversation for like 20
minutes.

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I got a whole bunch of stuff
here for wrestlers.

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March matters.
Getting there matters too.

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You've got to win.
You can't just sit out all

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season.
But if you're banged up, there

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ain't no need to go out there
and stretch your body.

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Stress it out.
What he did say and this is his

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opinion and we're going to try
to have David on sometime

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between now and the end of the
year just to give us some

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highlights on it.
But it's the deepest we've ever

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been.
You know we're we're fourth in

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the country right now and in
most of the polls and what?

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He said Friday night.
Hodgepodge.

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You guys only full, only fully
healthy guys going.

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You know, Tally, You were joking
in here.

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You don't know much about
wrestling.

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You said you've watched.
We probably need to go get some

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of them wrestling guys to get on
the football team.

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They taking people down.
We wasn't fucking tackling

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nobody, so we might need to get
some of them wrestlers to come

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out here and show us how to
tackle or just put some uniforms

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on.
So that's the only part I know

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now I know a little about
wrestling but I didn't get to

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watch any of the match, so
that's why I was saying I didn't

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really, I didn't really, you
know, pay attention to the first

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match.
But I will be tuning in on on

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Friday.
Checking some of that out,

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definitely.
Paying attention to it, Brian,

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you got anything on this?
I know you did one season of

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wrestling.
I.

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Did I did one season of
wrestling in high school?

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Just for leverage.
Right.

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What's that?
Helps with leverage, right?

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It does.
It does.

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It helps with conditioning, too.
You can make it through a

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wrestling season.
Football season ain't nothing,

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man.
We might have a Fuqua and get

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Jason on our our Music guy.
Officially, he made a video

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today.
His gig season's over because

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he's got to start assistant
wrestling coaching this.

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Week So.
We're going to definitely be

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paying attention to it again
with all the stuff we've got

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going on, I let.
Him slide that it was country

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roads.
I let it I let it slide.

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I I did know about Virginia.
I, I said, I said, You know, you

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got you got a song that's
mentioning West Virginia.

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Written while driving through
western Maryland, About for

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geography of Western Virginia.
So it's true.

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John Denver was high as hell
when he wrote that song, clearly

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not even a joke.
All righty.

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Well, you know, it was nice
talking about some positive

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vibes from Hokie Nation, but we
got to tell the truth to.

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You here, we.
Go we need we need to have some

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sound effects because clearly
when we have good times we going

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to show you all at least a few
highlights from the game.

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We need to have some sound
effects.

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But let's tell the truth Tuesday
and boys, I mean let's talk

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about what went well, because in
my opinion, you name it, it

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probably didn't go well.
What went well?

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I got one thing.
All right, one.

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Thing What's that?
The scoring streak continues.

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We didn't get shut out.
Didn't get shut out.

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That's the only.
Good thing I can pull out of

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that tape.
I'm proud of you for for

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thinking of that, because I
didn't never even think of that.

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It's pretty good bro, either.
I think of it.

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Only thing that I had good that
went good was I didn't go to

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fucking Louisville.
I.

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Saved my money.
I had a.

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Bad fucking feeling.
I saved my money, kept that in

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my pocket, and I didn't take my
ass to Louisville.

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Because you know how pissed I
would have been if I'd have went

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to that game?
We've got drug like that.

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I'd have been like Andretti.
I'd have been on here talking

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crazy well.
You also probably would have

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been hammered too, with all that
bourbon that was been flowing.

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Oh yeah.
Yeah, I did.

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I would have got on space.
Saturday night and you were on

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space Saturday night.
It would have been, it would

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have been bad.
All right.

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So real quick, real quick all.
Right.

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So emotion, we're done with what
went well.

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Let me move on.
Yes, we're good.

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We're good.
That, that's it.

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That's it.
Tally saved money and we didn't

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get shut out.
That's it.

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So y'all, let's let's get to it,
because it ain't no, it ain't no

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sugar what went bad.
And I'm going to tell y'all, we

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get into some of the technical
stuff.

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The way I felt watching that
game was we legitimately got

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outclassed every single phase.
It was felt like every single

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play of the game.
I think they had Connor

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Stallions on their sideline,
man.

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You.
Saying they stealing plays.

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It looked like you got the gate,
man, didn't it?

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Shit.
Oh man, it was.

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Well, look.
At the first play, I mean, but

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what do you think, Brian?
What's some of the stuff that

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just went real bad, and why do
you feel it went bad?

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Pass protection was awful, and
what they did was that they sent

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a lot of, well time blitzes.
They slanted into our uncovered

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and made them have to make a
decision.

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We didn't do a very good job
communicating and making those

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decisions, and we had free guys
running at the quarterback way

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too damn often.
All right.

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Charlie man, I don't even know
where to start.

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Did.
You let me go because we got a

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big list here.
That's.

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What I'm saying it's just
whatever, whatever you think

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about with bad, with bad, man,
it was just the main thing for

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me.
That I think went bad was just

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our game plan.
I don't think that our game plan

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was.
Well.

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Thought out.
I don't know what the fuck we

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did last week.
And I'm saying we as a

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collective.
Coaches, players, equipment,

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staff, cheerleaders, the band,
the four cadets, fucking Jeremy

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at the AT Jeremy.
You got to do a better job of

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getting people Tylenol.
Because it looks like we had.

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Fucking headaches out there, I
don't know what.

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I don't.
Know, but the game plan was

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totally not what I expected it
to be and we'll get to that a

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little bit later.
But it was it was awful since

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you since you brought Jeremy to
this.

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I I got to see Jeremy on
Saturday just before kickoff.

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Just before kickoff.
And and he had a he had a new

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ritual that he was trying out
because he had learned,

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apparently that when he doesn't
hammer Jameson before a game and

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he's not hammered off his ass,
we've started winning more.

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So he was he was drinking light
beer and not Jameson at the bar.

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Well, I'm glad we fucking lost
drinking light beer.

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That's what happens.
Get back on that Jameson.

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He'll go back shots all night.
You got to start early.

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We play at 12 this week.
Oh man, that man going to be in

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all sorts of trouble.
Well, Callie, you you made a

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point.
I'm going to jump on it real

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quick here about the game plans.
It it didn't look good.

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But what what always makes me
more worried that you know what

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if if they just scouted you good
and you thought hey this is

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going to work and it doesn't
work.

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I just felt like we were just
slow to slow to adjust on the

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sides of the balls.
And I know early that was some

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execution, right.
It was them doing stuff.

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But Brian, you said it a few
minutes ago, the kind of

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stallions thing, they look like
this is how we're going to

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attack and.
And it led to the bad pass

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protection, the ineffective run
game tally.

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You texted us and it's like, can
we just run the quarterback?

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We finally did.
It took to the middle of the

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second quarter.
Why?

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Go ahead?
No.

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It's just when I'm texting,
y'all I'm saying, we're watching

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the game.
Honestly, I'm going to be very

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candid with what I feel.
Yes.

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I feel like the coaching staff
didn't believe we could win the

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game, so they say it.
We're going to go out and we're

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going to protect everybody that
we can protect.

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I don't know if you have some
people banged up.

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I don't know if of course you
do.

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It's football.
But it's like there was like

452
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,160
drones.
We got to protect you.

453
00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,800
We got the rest of these games
that we can win.

454
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,600
We just want to make sure that,
you know, we can get through

455
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,640
these games, we can get to
Boston College, we can get to

456
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:11,800
back home and we can get to UVA.
So we start dropping back.

457
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,560
No, that's not what we're good
at.

458
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,720
We haven't done that good all
year.

459
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,320
You know, we start out by moving
the quarterback, moving the

460
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,360
pocket, running the quarterback.
And like you said, we didn't do

461
00:24:24,360 --> 00:24:27,800
that till the second-half and
then we start moving the ball.

462
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:32,320
You know, two had 60 yards at
halftime and then we stopped

463
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,840
going to what works, you know?
Again, I know they made

464
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,600
adjustments and Louisville's a
good team.

465
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,400
They're a little bit better than
I anticipated them being, but I

466
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,400
don't think they were 34 to 3
better than us.

467
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,080
You know it's.
Just game plan execution.

468
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:53,160
US coming out flat looking
scared, no life from coaches.

469
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,920
From what I can see on TV.
It was just a lot of stuff, man.

470
00:24:56,360 --> 00:25:01,880
And it was it was disheartening
to watch because we watch these,

471
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:06,480
we watch this team week after
week and we study and we go back

472
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,800
and look at tape that wasn't the
same team that we've seen

473
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,000
playing.
Then people say, Oh well, you

474
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,280
know, we play different at home
and we was getting fucking

475
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,960
fucked up at home.
For a long time, it ain't just

476
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,560
like we've been a great home
team.

477
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,760
We won a couple of home games.
We had started seeing

478
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,360
progression.
The team had started progressing

479
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,400
every week, you know, and people
say, oh, well, we just beat up

480
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,240
on bad teams.
The bad teams was fucking us up.

481
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,600
We've been getting beat by bad
teams.

482
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:38,440
So it's not a excuse.
It's just you started seeing

483
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,440
progression and then we took a
huge step back, you know what

484
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,000
I'm saying?
When that part was like, very,

485
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,320
very.
Disheartening and it just makes

486
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,960
you angry to watch, man.
It's like you don't want to go

487
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,000
back and watch tape.
You don't want to go back and

488
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,080
because you see everything going
wrong.

489
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,560
I know Brian was probably like
me.

490
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,560
When you go look at some of the
steps and people crossing your

491
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:04,000
face and it's like we just look
lost, you know it was it was

492
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,080
horrible.
They got, they got punched in

493
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,680
the mouth and they just didn't
know how to counterpunch like.

494
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,160
And that's coaching staff,
that's players, that's

495
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,800
everybody.
And I mean, when we look at it

496
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,840
like it was just, it was
frustrating to watch because,

497
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:22,240
you know, from a game plan
perspective, both script and

498
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,560
adjustments, that's the worst
game.

499
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,160
Yeah, we've seen from Tyler
Bowen since Rutgers.

500
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,640
And really, you could even go
back to Purdue.

501
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,160
You want to go.
You want to go back to the last

502
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,000
two seasons that might have been
the worst in the last two

503
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,280
seasons.
It.

504
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:38,520
Was bad.
Like see?

505
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,560
Like go back to last year and
think.

506
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:46,160
I don't think there was anything
that where it looked like they

507
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:51,000
were completely ready for us and
we had no quick counters and and

508
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,880
you know.
Then you had the procedural

509
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,120
penalties, which I know you both
of.

510
00:26:54,120 --> 00:26:56,800
Y'all will say that's that
happened early.

511
00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,520
It was loud there, but that's
also probably that confidence.

512
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,560
Things like Brian, you said it
numerous times, you jump because

513
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:05,840
you know that guy's going to
beat you.

514
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:07,080
Yeah.
Well, you just got to start

515
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:08,480
people.
People start whooping on your

516
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,280
ass and talking that shit to
you.

517
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,000
You start thinking about it and
jumping off sides and getting

518
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,920
scared and moving around.
So it was just, it was it was a

519
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,480
bad showing all around you
thinking about getting beaten.

520
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:20,560
So the thing about doing your
job.

521
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,560
That's true.
Now, a couple other things.

522
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,120
I mean, you know, defense, not a
great game either.

523
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,320
I mean, it was, you know, we
didn't.

524
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:31,520
Finish.
This was the first probably

525
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,520
time.
Probably.

526
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,600
Maybe Rutgers?
Like we didn't finish because in

527
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,520
the Marshall game we were
finishing a few times.

528
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:43,240
We just is what it is.
We didn't finish when we had one

529
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,800
sack after 15 in the last two
games.

530
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,440
And then probably the most
upsetting part to me watching it

531
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,560
was the regression back on the
run fits.

532
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:58,360
Because even the Florida State
game, yeah, they broke 2/1 was a

533
00:27:58,360 --> 00:28:00,280
bad fit.
The other guy just beat us.

534
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,800
But it it had been since
Marshall since we saw that.

535
00:28:05,120 --> 00:28:06,160
Right.
Play after.

536
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:07,520
Play.
Play after.

537
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:08,760
Play.
And now.

538
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:13,080
Now to our credit, we only gave
up one huge, huge run, right?

539
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,280
So maybe not a full aggression,
but what do you what do you

540
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:17,680
think?
I mean don't even look at it was

541
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,560
it was the IT was the small
gashes the the ones that are

542
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:24,600
really kind of kill you too
because not only are you getting

543
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,400
giving up yards, but you're
staying on the field and all

544
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,440
that stuff too.
So you're getting worn down and

545
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,440
that's that's what we saw with
of the second-half and how the

546
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,600
that score kind of ballooned on
us a little bit, you know,

547
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,760
especially the way we kind of
opened that second-half.

548
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,200
If it and it felt like that
second-half opening score was

549
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,960
kind of when every bit of life
that was still left in the team

550
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,120
kind of went away, right like
it, it just looked like they

551
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:52,800
were going through the motions
the rest of the way.

552
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:58,440
And I mean, I get it, but I mean
it's still you know A3 score

553
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,120
game, you get you, you turn
around you get a touchdown

554
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,360
you're right back in it.
But I think just confidence

555
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:09,160
wise, they they were shot at
that point and you know I don't

556
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,640
know how much of the the run
fit.

557
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,080
Like I said, it still wasn't
awful, but.

558
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,040
You know how much of that is
Strowman?

559
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,320
Not really playing A whole lot.
And we might not have him this

560
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:24,440
week too.
So it's hard to tell if that's

561
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,840
something that's going to be a
symptom of that's creeping back

562
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,240
on us for the rest of the year,
or if that's just kind of a one

563
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,000
off because of who we were
playing, because of who we

564
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,480
didn't have available.
We'll see.

565
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:36,920
I'm.
I'm hoping to see better this

566
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,400
week at BC, but that doesn't
inspire confidence, no?

567
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,720
Man, it's just like we didn't
have the the We can talk about

568
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,720
coaching, we can talk about
coordinators, we can talk about

569
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,640
uniforms.
The team didn't have no fight.

570
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,240
Like I seen Louisville pushing
our guys around.

571
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,280
The fucking stupid ass
commentator with the ugly

572
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,840
haircut kept talking that shit.
Oh, Louisville is hitting,

573
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,920
they're, they're hitting.
Oh, I think two was returning to

574
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,920
kick and he got hit.
He got popped or something and

575
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:07,520
they just made such a big deal
out of it.

576
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:11,960
But I seen none of our guys like
bow up, fight back.

577
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,560
You know, like we have been
scrapping with people.

578
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:16,960
Somebody get in our face, we
push them off like.

579
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,000
You know what I'm saying?
We just didn't have none of

580
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,240
that.
We just getting hit and it's

581
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,320
just, oh, everybody just kind of
getting up.

582
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:26,040
It was like just went in with no
fight, no heart, no effort.

583
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:31,640
So that is a player thing.
But that's a like Robbie was in

584
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,440
here earlier talking, you know,
I think he said, you know,

585
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:38,800
sometimes that happens in
coaching, but a coach has to see

586
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,800
that and has to rally his
troops, you know what I'm

587
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,560
saying?
You know, stop pumping them up.

588
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,160
When you get somebody on the
ground, leave them down.

589
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,960
Now help your own teammates up
like we in a dogpipe.

590
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:54,600
Be friends after it's over.
We just didn't mindset, so I

591
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:59,680
haven't seen that in a lot of
games this year like that.

592
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:01,240
That's.
I mean, no, that this is the

593
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,840
game, yeah.
Like I haven't seen and.

594
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:05,920
And I think, let me flip to this
real quick.

595
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:06,800
Yeah, go.
Ahead that's.

596
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,720
Something I'm guessing you
weren't prepared for because the

597
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:13,280
other eight games we played all
year, Rutgers.

598
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,000
I mean, I'm thinking with the
losses, Rutgers, Marshall,

599
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,760
Purdue, Florida State.
We.

600
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,000
Fought those games?
Yeah, you punch back.

601
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,560
At least that kind of shocked
you.

602
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,560
Like, that's your big shock.
Like, what are we doing?

603
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,560
Yeah.
It was just that the no fight,

604
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,040
like you said, skipping over to
what I wasn't prepared for.

605
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:36,080
I was prepared for Louisville to
be a good team, you know, and

606
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,920
even us talking, I said I don't
know if we win, but I didn't

607
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,200
think it was going to get beat
by 30 points.

608
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,280
You know what I'm saying?
I thought we would at least

609
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,040
cover.
I think that that it was 10

610
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:46,880
points when we first started
out.

611
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,920
I thought, man, they may get us
by 10, they may get us by 7-8.

612
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,760
No, wrong.
It was it was nothing.

613
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,760
And it wasn't nothing they did.
That was so their number one

614
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,800
receiver was out.
They didn't do anything great.

615
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,720
Curtis had something that kind
of threw him by surprise, but he

616
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,080
said he wasn't prepared for with
the quarterback.

617
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,280
So I'll let him talk about that
and then go back on it.

618
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,320
What'd you say about that?
Well.

619
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,080
Plummer.
Brian looked at the tape and

620
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,720
Plummer was like a last option
Resort was to run Plummer and

621
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,520
Plummer had five for 25 and they
were, they were like one was an

622
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,320
11 yard run on like third down
and it was just like, are you

623
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,080
kidding?
Then he got like 5 in four in

624
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,800
six, and it's just like you're
sitting here and it's just like,

625
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,800
I hated that because the
expectation was he's not going

626
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,000
to do anything with his legs and
I don't know if it was all

627
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,480
aggressiveness.
But they knew it, and they took

628
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,760
advantage of it early.
And what happens when a guy who

629
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,760
doesn't run runs a few times
early nearby?

630
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,160
His eye starts looking.
They don't trust themselves,

631
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:49,520
but.
You know, what's he doing?

632
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:51,360
You know what it felt like to
me.

633
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,480
It felt like they watched our
tape and said, oh, they got

634
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,880
something that works.
We're going to do it.

635
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,520
They they look what their game
plan was, was what I thought our

636
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,640
game plan was going to be.
You know, moving, not even

637
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,480
saying that the quarterback has
to run so much, but just that

638
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:11,240
little bit of effectiveness that
he had, like you say, it started

639
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,680
shifting people's eyes one way
or the other and things like

640
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,320
that.
And it's just that's when the

641
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,640
run fits get off, you know,
that's when we start having some

642
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,360
problems.
But that's what we've been

643
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,040
doing.
That's why people was having

644
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,160
problems with us.
We just didn't go to it.

645
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:29,760
It's true, yeah.
I mean the thing I I'd really

646
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,400
say is how badly we tackled in
space.

647
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,360
Like there was a there was a lot
of missed tackles and we hadn't

648
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,480
really seen that many missed
tackles the last month month and

649
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,640
1/2.
So I wasn't ready for that.

650
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:48,200
I I I was not expecting us to be
that poor in our execution in

651
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,760
the tackling.
So that that's that's one of

652
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,360
those things where you know a
three yard game becomes the

653
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:59,200
first down or the three yard
loss becomes A5 yard gain and

654
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,520
now they're you know on a good
cadence for their for the down

655
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:06,040
and distance and they can have
the full playbook at their

656
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:07,720
disposal on second and third
down.

657
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:12,239
So it it that's what really
frustrated me is because coming

658
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,159
off a game where we got off the
field with regularity, we could

659
00:34:15,159 --> 00:34:17,239
not get off the fucking field,
no.

660
00:34:18,159 --> 00:34:19,719
We.
Could not get off the field and

661
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,120
that was probably again very
disappointing for us.

662
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,600
But let let's flip it because
like we we went through the bad.

663
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:30,159
We talked about it right at 20
minutes here about the bad but

664
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,280
what do we got to do better
moving forward.

665
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,800
And before we go, before we have
these other three points tally,

666
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,320
I, I, I jumped on the space
where you were on Don be making

667
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,600
some points and you got to talk
about the road mentality thing

668
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:46,199
because it's an issue now.
It is a serious issue.

669
00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:47,679
We are one and nine under the
staff.

670
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,600
We are now O and three this
year, no O and four this year.

671
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,320
Right.
O and four, yeah, O and four.

672
00:34:55,960 --> 00:35:01,600
O and four this year.
What has to change because I I

673
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:02,960
I.
Listened to you talk about 5

674
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:03,760
minutes.
Yeah.

675
00:35:04,240 --> 00:35:09,920
So real quick for the people who
who don't work in on the on the

676
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,240
space after the game.
I was just talking about, you

677
00:35:13,240 --> 00:35:19,240
know as a athlete, high school.
For me it's much different from

678
00:35:19,240 --> 00:35:21,400
college.
But I I started there, so I'm

679
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,640
talking about.
When you're home, you got

680
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,840
certain rituals, You know,
that's just for you being home,

681
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,920
you know, for me.
I came on the field.

682
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,640
We warmed up.
I would come out just my, you

683
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:38,200
know, my pants on, you know, my
undershirt, my helmet.

684
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:43,320
I got my I always put my gloves
on my mask and I would walk the

685
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:47,240
field and my mom and grandma sat
on the opposite side.

686
00:35:47,240 --> 00:35:50,440
They would sit on the opposite
side because at our field in

687
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:55,120
high school.
The visitor side was the old

688
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,120
side, so it was made out of like
stone.

689
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:01,200
So the seats were wider.
You could, you know, you could

690
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:03,800
fit your butt on those seats a
little bit better.

691
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,440
So the home side was the newer
side where it had more seating,

692
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,760
but they were more of the, you
know, the silver bleachers, you

693
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,600
know, my mom was like, I don't
like them, I'm going to sit on

694
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,440
this side.
So she always sit on the

695
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:19,720
opposite side, on the, on the,
on the opposing side.

696
00:36:19,720 --> 00:36:22,680
So I would walk the field.
You know, do my listen to a

697
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,600
little bit of music.
And I would always go to my mom

698
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,240
and my grandma.
They come up to the to the fence

699
00:36:27,240 --> 00:36:29,800
and lean over.
I give my mom a kiss and, you

700
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,360
know, talk some crap with my
grandma and then I start getting

701
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,480
to my, you know, game ritual
stuff.

702
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:40,440
But my mind was starting to work
and I played that in my head

703
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,720
every home game.
So what you got to do as when

704
00:36:43,720 --> 00:36:46,120
you go on the road, you can
still have rituals.

705
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,080
They're just not going to be
your same home rituals.

706
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,200
My son is in sports now.
He's playing basketball.

707
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:56,280
The first game we went, I mean
Halloween, we went and played

708
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,360
some country, country white
boys.

709
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,000
That's about an hour and 15
minutes away in a place called

710
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,560
Hartzell.
And these little boys can bawl

711
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,200
like they're just very
fundamental.

712
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:09,040
They country, so they lie out
and they just in your face when

713
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,760
they get a trap, they're
yelling, screaming and they

714
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,000
dominated us, you know?
So my son asked me after the

715
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,520
game.
You know, my son's a pretty good

716
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,680
athlete in everything he plays,
you know, so he he's a pretty

717
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,080
good basketball player.
He's almost about 6 foot, you

718
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,880
know, with his hair.
He's about 6-1.

719
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,680
So playing guard, he's
left-handed, so he can do a lot

720
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,280
of things that some of the other
kids can't do.

721
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,280
But he got held scoreless.
I've never seen him be held

722
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,800
scoreless.
And he said I just, I was

723
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,280
overwhelmed, you know, just
having a real talk with him.

724
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,360
He said the crowd was loud, the
boys was loud, that coach was

725
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,280
loud.
You know, I feel like the refs

726
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,520
weren't giving us calls.
What can I do when I go on the

727
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,200
road to be better?
I said, well, you know what, I

728
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,920
got to help you because you're
reaching out to me, asking me.

729
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,040
So I started sending them some
little motivational stuff.

730
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,720
Before the game, I sent him
three points.

731
00:37:58,720 --> 00:38:02,200
Now because he's played two
other home, two other away

732
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,560
games.
After that, I sent him three

733
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,680
points, you know, kind of use
the sandwich thing, I'd say.

734
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:11,000
And when I say the sandwich
method for him and I give him

735
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:12,960
something.
The kind that he needs to work

736
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,720
on something he's great at and
then another thing he needs to

737
00:38:15,720 --> 00:38:17,680
work on.
So it's not like I'm just saying

738
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,560
hey, you got to be at this so I
may be like, OK, you got to

739
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,800
rebound better this game.
Last game you had six.

740
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,440
I need you to try to get 10.
You know, second point may be,

741
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:30,600
hey, you scored great, just keep
doing that And the third one may

742
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,440
be, hey, you had five turnovers,
you got to cut those down.

743
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,600
So I say all that to say the
coaches have to step in and get

744
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,880
these kids ready for Rd.
mentality.

745
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,200
Whatever they They know those
players better than we do.

746
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,880
You got to know what those
rituals are, that they need some

747
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,320
of the things that you see them
doing at home.

748
00:38:49,720 --> 00:38:51,120
You got to take that on the
road.

749
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,560
You got to tell them maybe if
you see somebody eating Jolly

750
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,760
Ranchers before the game, give
them a Jolly Rancher like you

751
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,040
got to dig into them.
You got to get your best players

752
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:00,640
moving.
We can't wait till the

753
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,720
second-half to get going.
So that road mentality has to

754
00:39:03,720 --> 00:39:06,600
get better and it's it 100%
starts with coaching.

755
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,120
Players have to play and players
have to be ready, but.

756
00:39:10,720 --> 00:39:13,080
Players are going to take on the
mindset of their coaches.

757
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,480
So these coaches have to get
them ready and the coaches got

758
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,600
to be ready too.
You know that that they're,

759
00:39:17,720 --> 00:39:20,000
they're all new.
They have to get ready.

760
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,200
You know, you leaving, you
getting on the road, you leaving

761
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,080
your family, you being on a bus,
you being on a plane.

762
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,360
You know what I'm saying?
You may didn't get to sit down

763
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,440
and drink your bourbon that
night, whatever the case may be,

764
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,000
you got to get ready for this
road game.

765
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,040
So.
I think I went on a little bit

766
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,000
of a rant there, but I like
that, I like that.

767
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:40,560
And you're right, A.
Lot, man.

768
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,560
Brian you know, I mean, shit,
you know, you've been, you've

769
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:47,400
been involved in those rituals
and road games and home games,

770
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,520
so I'll toss it to you and let
you talk a little bit.

771
00:39:49,720 --> 00:39:51,880
Yeah.
You cannot approach a road game

772
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,640
the same way you do a home game
from a mentality standpoint,

773
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:59,520
because when you're on the road,
especially against the team that

774
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,400
on paper is better than you,
you've got to set the tone out

775
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,400
the gate.
And if you're not coming out

776
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,520
there with that fire in your
ass, ready to set that tone,

777
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:13,120
it's going to be a long game.
We've seen it at FSU.

778
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,640
They jumped out to US 2022,
nothing.

779
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:21,600
We saw it at at Louisville where
it was 14, nothing right out the

780
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:26,000
gate, 14, three and a half time.
You know, we were struggling to

781
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,960
kind of hang on to that.
And then Will was completely

782
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:30,280
broken when we came out of
Locker.

783
00:40:31,240 --> 00:40:35,280
We've got to find a way of
preparing and getting the guys

784
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:40,520
ready to go out the gate a lot
better in these Rd. situations.

785
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,960
The only one I've seen that's
really come out with some fire

786
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,240
was Marshall, and we crapped
that away because we went ahead

787
00:40:46,240 --> 00:40:48,720
and went away from what was
working in that game.

788
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,200
But I I need to see it.
We we we need to approach these

789
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,120
Rd. games with that road
mentality that Tally's talking

790
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,040
about.
You can't just have that same

791
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,960
even keel mindset that you do
with the home game.

792
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,760
You've got to approach it with a
different kind of fire because

793
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,240
you got to bring a little bit
more of your own juice because

794
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,160
at home you the the fans are
going to bring the juice.

795
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,280
You're jacked up, you got family
in town.

796
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,320
All these things that you do is
what you normally do when you

797
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,880
hit the road.
Every week is different, so you

798
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,160
got to be able to bring your own
juice in a different way.

799
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,680
And I haven't seen us do that,
at least not consistently yet.

800
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,960
I'm hoping that we see it this
week at BC Well.

801
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,560
It's it's a big week at BC
because we say what can we do

802
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:35,240
better being before goals are
still in front of us, the goals

803
00:41:35,240 --> 00:41:38,000
are still in front of us.
I mean, one goal is getting more

804
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:39,760
than three wins.
We got there already.

805
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,920
That seemed like a victory among
itself to get to 4, but we still

806
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,440
got that.
But to me, what I bring on this,

807
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,760
what we got to do, move better,
being forward.

808
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,120
That team can't show up on the
fucking field again this year

809
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,520
and I don't give a damn if it's
at the road or home.

810
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:55,840
Because if.
That team shows up against any

811
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,600
of these last three opponents.
We are not winning those games,

812
00:41:58,800 --> 00:41:59,480
no.
We.

813
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,720
Look like shit.
We look like we didn't want to

814
00:42:01,720 --> 00:42:03,600
play.
Now.

815
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:08,280
What I what I hope today helps
us move better going forward.

816
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,240
I don't know if y'all caught
this in a prize interview,

817
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,600
basically grants back it pretty
much.

818
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,240
He can play.
But he said we're basically,

819
00:42:17,240 --> 00:42:20,640
this is Kyron's offense, this is
Jones's offense.

820
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,560
Basically, it's it.
This is him.

821
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,120
Maybe that's a shot to get the
whole team ready.

822
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:28,680
Maybe.
Maybe something weird happened

823
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,120
last week in practice with with
Grant Wells back.

824
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,360
We don't know that.
So yeah, anything else for Y'all

825
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,080
going forward that we got to do
better.

826
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:41,960
And I know we we said this a
lot, but anything sticks out.

827
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,840
I got to communicate in the
Office of Line better because

828
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,080
that that was a big problem.
Louisville brought some

829
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,960
different types of pressure that
we hadn't seen a lot this year,

830
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,600
and we got very flustered and it
became a big problem.

831
00:42:56,280 --> 00:43:01,320
The biggest problem we've had
holding up up front since the

832
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:05,520
first month of the season.
So that's got to get better.

833
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:09,920
I'm awful.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

834
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,840
If we're doing something on
offense that's working, stop

835
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,080
trying to fix it.
Just just go with it.

836
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,280
You know?
We understand that Tootin is a

837
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,480
hell of a running back.
I know he may be nicked up

838
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,240
sometimes.
He's going to tell you when he

839
00:43:23,240 --> 00:43:27,120
can't go, but in that first, in
that first half, he was moving

840
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,080
the ball, you know, and some
people say, well, we couldn't

841
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:31,840
run inside.
He was running where he wanted

842
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:33,440
to.
You know, he was coming off the

843
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,760
tackle, he was coming between
tackle and guard.

844
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,520
He was beating people to the
outside.

845
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,440
Again, you can't have 60 yards
in the first half.

846
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,320
And then I think he may have
ended the game with 50 yards,

847
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:45,680
you know what I'm saying?
He lost yards in the

848
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,320
second-half, which is.
I understand that that's

849
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,040
adjustments.
But when you have a player like

850
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:55,280
that, you got to at least get
him going, you know, So I had a

851
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,600
basketball coach that used to
always say weather to storm

852
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:02,000
whenever we would play away.
He coached much different than

853
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,560
he did at home.
You know that first quarter

854
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,160
basketball is different than
football, but he would always.

855
00:44:07,720 --> 00:44:10,600
You know, he'd let him go on a
run, you know, because you can

856
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,360
make up 10 points quick in
basketball.

857
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,200
You can make up 15 points quick
in basketball.

858
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,640
And he was just, he was a a
real, you know, military guy,

859
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,760
you know, always was, you know,
you got to do it this way.

860
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,000
You got to.
But when we were on away games,

861
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:24,920
he was real calm in that first
quarter.

862
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,840
You know, he he just, hey, y'all
just weather the storm.

863
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:29,920
They playing off emotions.
It's all right.

864
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,200
And then when that second
quarter came, Coach D came out

865
00:44:33,720 --> 00:44:35,880
like he was.
Get.

866
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:37,880
Your ass in, Yeah, you know what
I'm saying?

867
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,440
He was a different coach because
he understand now.

868
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:45,560
The butterflies are gone.
The team that I coach and we

869
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,360
practice with every day should
be showing up now.

870
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:50,320
And if you ain't going to show
up, you're going to come sit

871
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:51,240
down.
So there you.

872
00:44:51,240 --> 00:44:52,400
Go.
I like that.

873
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:54,240
Think moving better going
forward.

874
00:44:54,240 --> 00:44:56,920
What you just said, Tally.
If you don't want to show up, go

875
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:01,400
sit down regardless, All right.
Well, that wraps up that.

876
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,280
Let's put that one in the trash
can, burn it lot of gasoline.

877
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,960
I don't want to see any remnants
of that game ever again.

878
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,480
Before we get in to know the
enemy and the Boston College

879
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,760
Eagles, we are going to take a
quick pause from our digital

880
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:15,240
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Pharmacy.

881
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,520
I can probably save you a lot of
money and I can take a lot

882
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,560
better care of you.
That's pretty much it.

883
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,160
My name is Jeremy Counts and I'm
a pharmacist.

884
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,760
I own and operate Main Street
Pharmacy here in downtown

885
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:28,840
Blacksburg.
My brother's a pharmacist.

886
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:30,320
I'm a pharmacist.
My uncle's a pharmacist.

887
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,480
My dad's a pharmacist.
I remember he would give me M

888
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,960
and Ms. to count in little pill
counters.

889
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,800
This is something I've always
done, and I'm just lucky that

890
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,440
what I know so well is something
that I can do and feel good

891
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,560
about it and get back to people.
Pharmacies are your frontline

892
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,040
defense.
Pharmacy's job is to make sure

893
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,440
you're getting optimal care for
the lowest price possible.

894
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,760
Also, we take the pressure off
of emergency rooms.

895
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:54,680
I'll tell people immediately
when they need to go to the

896
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,840
doctor, or I'll tell them if
they just need a cream over the

897
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:58,960
counter.
If there's something that isn't

898
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Now back to the episode all.
Right, and we are back.

912
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:41,720
Know the enemy?
Boston College Eagles.

913
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,160
As always, we start with the
offense 1st.

914
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:47,720
And Brian?
Let's talk about the offense ran

915
00:46:47,720 --> 00:46:49,600
by Steve.
How about I'm pronouncing his

916
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,560
name right, Y'all know me and
that Shaminko Jimko.

917
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:58,840
What are they doing up there?
Yeah man we got a got another

918
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:03,120
tight end turn quarterback coach
with a dual threat transfer

919
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:07,920
quarterback.
So little bit of a similarity in

920
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:11,200
in that regard this this, this
one happened to have coached

921
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,360
quarterbacks before in a limited
role.

922
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,360
But yeah, it's really
interesting.

923
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,640
This is the second year as the
quarterback coach.

924
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:25,000
First year OC, we got a power
spread option.

925
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,880
Pass game is really predicated
on the success of that play

926
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:32,880
action and run threat.
So if they're not running the

927
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,240
ball effectively, they're not
going to really be able to throw

928
00:47:35,240 --> 00:47:38,880
the ball very much.
Very similar in that regard to

929
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,600
what we saw coming out of coming
out of Syracuse.

930
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:44,800
They really have to get the run
game going if they're going to

931
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,160
have any success offensively.
Yep.

932
00:47:47,720 --> 00:47:49,640
Hey, Tally, anything you notice?
I know you watched a little bit

933
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,800
of that Syracuse game on Friday.
Anything you noticed there with

934
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,760
this offense that stuck out to
you?

935
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,000
That offense is going to run
with the quarterback.

936
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,800
I know you're going to talk
about him a little bit, but the

937
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:06,200
offense doesn't scare me at all.
They've got their typical Boston

938
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:07,680
College.
They're going to have some big

939
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,160
lineman, they're going to be
white and they're going to be

940
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,120
technical and they're going to
move some people.

941
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:16,440
And you got a quarterback now
with them that's can run.

942
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,040
And then they going to have some
running backs with some crazy

943
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,920
names that look like they may be
from Louisiana or something, but

944
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:25,920
they're going to be.
Big and they're going to be

945
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:30,600
strong and they going to get 3
yards to carry like it's the

946
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,440
typical Boston College.
The only thing that I didn't see

947
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:37,320
from them is the fucking cowboy
call a tight end that they

948
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:41,360
normally have there.
You go all.

949
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:43,320
Right.
Well, let's talk about that

950
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,880
quarterback, that is.
That's the only thing that I

951
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:48,520
haven't seen from that offense
this year.

952
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,200
Well, let's talk about Thomas
Castellanos.

953
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,400
He is from Ware County Down in
Waycross, GA.

954
00:48:55,760 --> 00:49:01,520
He was a transfer from UCF when
he first came out back in the

955
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:08,400
year of 2022, was a very high
three star and a top 600 player,

956
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:12,920
so a solid player to go to UCF.
Stay there a year, then transfer

957
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:14,720
it up.
And this year, Brian, you're

958
00:49:14,720 --> 00:49:15,960
going to talk about what he
does.

959
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:17,480
But just look at the numbers
here.

960
00:49:17,720 --> 00:49:21,720
You know, 760 yards rushing, 5
point to a carry.

961
00:49:21,720 --> 00:49:25,360
He has 10 touchdowns.
Knowing where they score, that

962
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,680
is a lot.
And as far as passing the ball,

963
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:36,400
not terrible, just slightly
under 58 percent. 1700 yards, 7

964
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:40,360
per attempt, 12 touchdowns, 7
interceptions.

965
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:45,520
And Brian, what what are you,
what are you seeing?

966
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,800
From it because Tally kind of
said, I think your big lead

967
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,640
point here.
Yeah man, the offense goes as he

968
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:52,160
goes.
If he doesn't have a good game,

969
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:53,360
they're not going to have a good
game.

970
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,000
He is their primary rushing
threat.

971
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,000
He leads the team in yards
rushing.

972
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,360
He's got a good arm that can
make all the throws, but he's

973
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:05,480
mostly likes to live in that
that short intermediate range.

974
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,160
He'll take a shot here and
there, but that's not his bread

975
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,440
and butter.
And this is the guy that will

976
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,120
throw some picks, man.
He's like, I think 13 and seven

977
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,920
touchdown, 12 and 712 and seven
touchdown interception.

978
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:22,000
So he'll throw some picks.
Again, everything that they do

979
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,920
is predicated on running the
football and he will do most of

980
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,960
that.
When he runs that ball, he's

981
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,120
carrying it like a loaf of
bread.

982
00:50:30,720 --> 00:50:34,800
Somebody need to punch it out,
get him on the ground, get the

983
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:36,440
ball on the ground.
That's, that's that's what you

984
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,960
got to do to win.
We going to make a note of that

985
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:42,880
now real quick like he's sitting
up he's got 700 plus yards so

986
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,520
he's averaging roughly about 80
a game.

987
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:47,920
This team is a top ten rushing
team.

988
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:52,840
They are averaging 211 a game.
And you know let's talk about,

989
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:56,840
let's skip and go back to the
wide receiving of Sagna Rumble.

990
00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:00,320
Let's talk about Kyle Robichaux
Tally making fun of him over

991
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,160
here Tally you know why he's got
a a southern name.

992
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:06,720
He's from Phoenix City, Alabama.
I didn't know that he.

993
00:51:06,720 --> 00:51:09,400
Is from Phoenix City, Alabama.
Did he go to Central?

994
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:11,520
Huh.
What high school did he go to?

995
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:15,600
Did he go to Central Glenwood?
OK, that ain't a powerhouse, but

996
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:17,880
OK, powerhouse.
No, he started at Western

997
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:19,720
Kentucky.
He was not ranked when he came

998
00:51:19,720 --> 00:51:25,160
out in 2021, got into Portal
ranked in 88 and had a good.

999
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:30,920
He's having a really good season
so far up there with over 560

1000
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:35,520
yards rushing, 6 touchdowns.
Add another 80 plus in the

1001
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:40,840
receiving game.
So, Brian, what do you see from

1002
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:46,000
rubbish Shaw on tape?
I mean, he's a running back with

1003
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,080
good vision.
He's kind of that typical Boston

1004
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,600
College running back.
Like like Tally was mentioning.

1005
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:54,160
Man, he's a guy that runs hard,
finishes hard.

1006
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:58,920
He doesn't really have elite
breakaway speed, but that vision

1007
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,840
kind of between the tackles
allows him to occasionally bust

1008
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:06,560
a big run just on that alone.
Break some tackles, Not a huge

1009
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,360
tackle breaker, but more of a
guy that will, you know, drag

1010
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:13,200
guys for a few extra yards, find
the right right gap and kind of

1011
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:17,960
run through an arm tackle.
They use him some of the screen

1012
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:21,160
and check down game.
Not a huge threat here though.

1013
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:24,560
And you know he's got a a a back
mate there with Garwo.

1014
00:52:24,720 --> 00:52:29,000
I know, we haven't seen a bunch
of him either, that, yeah,

1015
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:30,240
exactly.
He's been banged up.

1016
00:52:30,240 --> 00:52:34,200
So Robichaud has been getting
most of the run here lately, and

1017
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,880
it's taken advantage of that put
out a pretty good campaign so

1018
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:41,640
far.
Yeah, and again, you kind of

1019
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:44,480
start adding it up.
It's like it's really it's him

1020
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,560
and it's it's Castellanos
running the ball.

1021
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,280
It.
Really is their account for, you

1022
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:55,080
know, close to 1300 yards out of
the 1800 plus they've got, I

1023
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,160
mean we see that.
It's like OK.

1024
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:01,720
Don't let them beat you, but
don't let this guy catching the

1025
00:53:01,720 --> 00:53:03,480
ball beat you.
And that's going to be Lewis

1026
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:08,560
Bond.
Lewis Bond when he came out in

1027
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:12,400
2021 out of Kenwood Academy in
Chicago, IL.

1028
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:16,720
An 86 ranked player, so kind of
a mid ranked player there, but

1029
00:53:16,720 --> 00:53:18,600
having a hell of a season this
year.

1030
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:24,960
Already 35 receptions, 485
yards, 5 touchdowns.

1031
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,920
This has really been his first
year where he has been a primary

1032
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:33,080
wide receiver up there and thank
God that man isn't here anymore.

1033
00:53:33,720 --> 00:53:34,880
What?
Should we need Robbie?

1034
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:36,120
You shouldn't even brought his
name up.

1035
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:37,720
I'm.
Glad he did, because this thing

1036
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:39,640
we ain't got to talk about Zay
Flowers this year.

1037
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,160
Right.
He got to talk about Zay

1038
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:43,360
flowers.
Ravens.

1039
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,160
Looking good, by the way.
Oh.

1040
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:50,200
Yeah, yeah, they squirrel storm.
They they Since we stole one

1041
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:53,000
from them, they've looked
fucking unstoppable.

1042
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,680
There you go.
But let's talk about Lewis Bond

1043
00:53:56,680 --> 00:54:01,440
because he is the lead, the team
leader in receptions and yards.

1044
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:03,440
Brian, what is he bringing to
the table?

1045
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:07,880
That it does have to make up for
what Zay Jones did for years

1046
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,240
there.
Yeah, he's he's more of a kind

1047
00:54:10,240 --> 00:54:12,560
of a shifty burner than he is a
stick mover.

1048
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,040
We've seen him hit the big one a
couple times this year.

1049
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,480
I think he had one touchdown for
42 yards or or long for 42

1050
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:20,640
yards.
I don't know if it turned into a

1051
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,720
touchdown or not, but they'll
move him around a lot in the

1052
00:54:23,720 --> 00:54:26,720
formation.
Works mostly at X and out of the

1053
00:54:26,720 --> 00:54:29,880
slot, but he's a guy that can
beat you deep.

1054
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,040
They like him on the
intermediate stuff, some of the

1055
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:35,440
stuff over the middle, good,
good balance of speed and

1056
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,360
quickness.
So he's definitely one that you

1057
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:40,120
got to watch out for when they
do get the passing game going.

1058
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,440
And a lot, a lot of times they
like to take those, those

1059
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,960
intermediate and deep shots off
that play action, and if they're

1060
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,040
running effectively, that
becomes more effective in the

1061
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:51,440
passing game as well all.
Righty.

1062
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,360
Brian, did anybody else receiver
wide jump out to you?

1063
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,800
Because when I was just doing
the data dives, nothing.

1064
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:01,920
I mean, you know, we talked
about excuse.

1065
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:05,360
Me that We talked about him
having 1700 yards and you're

1066
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,800
talking about just over 1/4.
That's to Lewis.

1067
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:12,200
He's only completed 140 passes.
That's a quarter to passes going

1068
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,080
to Lewis Pond too.
Did anybody else just jump out

1069
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:20,400
on tape or yeah, #0 Jayden
Williams, he's kind of more of

1070
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,360
their stick mover.
He's got to look out.

1071
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:28,360
He's a, he's a bigger guy.
You know, Lewis Bond is kind of

1072
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:31,200
their burner.
He's a smaller 58188 guy.

1073
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:36,680
James Kind of That bigger stick
moving red zone threat all.

1074
00:55:36,720 --> 00:55:39,160
Right, we'll make a note of
Jayden Williams.

1075
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,360
Now let's just talk about the
offensive line here, Brian,

1076
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:45,800
because Tally said.
It reminds them of an old school

1077
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:49,960
Boston, Boston College offensive
line where the last few years,

1078
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,000
yeah, that that offensive line
was trouble.

1079
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:54,800
Is it better than it was last
year?

1080
00:55:57,720 --> 00:56:02,000
Better, especially run blocking,
they they do a good job of

1081
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,000
communicating and getting to the
second level.

1082
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,560
I I call them mid in terms of
pass pro, they don't really give

1083
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,600
up a ton of sacks, but most of
that's a product of the

1084
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:15,600
quarterback #1 having a high,
not having a high percentage of

1085
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:19,920
drop backs versus stuff going
on, play action numbers two,

1086
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,360
just being able to escape the
pressure with his legs.

1087
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:25,840
So those two factors are really
limiting the sack count.

1088
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:30,520
But like I said, they're not, I
wouldn't call them a very good

1089
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:32,600
pass pro team.
They're they're a very average

1090
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:36,360
to slightly below average pass
pro, but their run blocking is

1091
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:39,520
kind of, I'd say higher tier.
They're they're not as elite as

1092
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:41,720
the yardage that they're putting
out right now, but most of that

1093
00:56:41,720 --> 00:56:44,440
is a product of Castellanos
being able to take off and make

1094
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:47,840
some big plays with his legs.
Well, be realistic with me here,

1095
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:51,840
Brian, when it comes to the you
talked about the sacks allowed,

1096
00:56:52,240 --> 00:56:55,720
were there times when you were
watching this tape, It was that

1097
00:56:55,720 --> 00:56:59,000
should be a sack, that should be
a sack, that should be a sack.

1098
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:03,080
And he just wiggled his way out.
He did that in the Syracuse

1099
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,160
game.
There's a bunch of those

1100
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,000
moments, yeah.
There's a bunch of those

1101
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,680
moments.
And like I said, they don't call

1102
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:15,160
straight drops a lot either.
So you know when they do he he

1103
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:17,120
does have the ability to skate,
but a lot of times they're

1104
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,520
calling those those pass plays
off of that play action.

1105
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:22,560
So he's getting a little bit of
a of a cushion there with that

1106
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:24,920
run action.
All right.

1107
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:26,520
Good deal.
Again, just trying to paint a

1108
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:29,640
picture of what they may be
doing and it sounds like to me

1109
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:32,960
that that run game we you better
get back.

1110
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,240
To the Pit game through the
Syracuse game and the run

1111
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,920
defense this week.
Like I said, they they won't hit

1112
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:42,560
home runs on you, but it could
look like Louisville and a bunch

1113
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:46,240
of gashes all game if we don't
sure that thing up and tackle

1114
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:48,400
better, well be.
Realistic with me though, Do

1115
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,080
they have the offensive power
power to get to 30 points?

1116
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,440
No, OK.
All right.

1117
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:57,320
That's.
I mean, you know, you got to,

1118
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:00,440
you got to find wins, right?
I don't want to talk too much.

1119
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:01,760
I don't want to talk too much
because I.

1120
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:04,920
I know how people was last week
when you start.

1121
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:10,320
Uh, Oh no.
We did not make his microphone

1122
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:12,880
go to Technical Difficulties.
Valley, get back in here.

1123
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:17,480
Sorry, I left y'all hanging.
Yes, repeat what you said.

1124
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:19,200
We all so.
They're running back's supposed

1125
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,280
to be banged up, overshot
supposed to be banged up.

1126
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:22,960
That's.
What they saying?

1127
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:24,800
They're saying he's supposed to
be banged up.

1128
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,760
So we don't know.
I mean, I know that.

1129
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:34,640
Well, hold on.
So we need to be Garo hadn't

1130
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:39,080
played Alex Broom.
Y'all see your bed broom, Alex

1131
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:46,720
Broom number #20.
Write that number down because

1132
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:48,120
no one that's Cali will tell
you.

1133
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:50,680
No one outlook the guy who's not
carrying the ball much.

1134
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:55,400
Watch for Cameron Barfield too.
Cameron, Barfield and Broom all

1135
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:57,360
right.
Listen, you know what?

1136
00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:00,480
And I think you wonder how much
that goes into mentality too.

1137
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:03,880
Hey, they might have guys banged
up and then it's like, no,

1138
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:06,920
everybody played with one cap.
All right, I want to flip over

1139
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:10,760
to the defensive side of the
ball boys led by Sean Duggan and

1140
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,920
Arzir Abdul Rahim.
They are Co defensive

1141
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:17,760
coordinator unit up at Boston
College and so far this year,

1142
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:22,640
solid overall numbers.
For their total defense, they

1143
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:25,840
ranked 46th.
Giving up about 350 yards a

1144
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:31,240
game, definitely giving up.
Better against the past than the

1145
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:33,760
run.
So Brian, what are you seeing

1146
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:37,440
from this defense?
Yeah they there there are four,

1147
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:43,320
three they'll blitz some what
you see from a down line

1148
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:45,160
perspective.
Usually they'll have one guy

1149
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:48,480
standing up, sometimes both DN
standing up.

1150
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:53,680
They'll they'll blitz pretty
regularly, but they usually do

1151
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:56,480
it on more obvious downs.
They're not bringing different

1152
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:59,240
pressures, varied pressures on
1st and 2nd very often.

1153
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:03,720
It's usually in those expected
passing situations and it's a

1154
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:07,080
lot of cover 3, cover one, mixed
in a little cover 6.

1155
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:08,840
So you're going to see those
type of coverages pretty

1156
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:12,320
consistently from this team.
Solid defense.

1157
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:16,640
Nothing elite about them, but
they're very solid.

1158
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:19,160
Kind of at, especially in their
front 7.

1159
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:23,880
All righty and no.
Normally we'll start with a

1160
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:26,360
linebacker or we'll start with a
defensive lineman.

1161
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:29,240
But today, Brian, I wanted to
start out with one of the

1162
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:34,880
defensive backs because Elijah
Jones is one of the country

1163
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:38,800
leaders in interceptions.
He's got 5, which is I think

1164
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:42,360
number six in the country, tied
for six in the country because

1165
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:44,720
there's a bunch of guys at 5 and
there's only two guys ahead of

1166
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:47,040
that group with a nine and
seven.

1167
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:51,360
He's got 25 tackles this year,
so obviously seems like a pretty

1168
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:54,480
willing guy.
He's forced to fumble 8 past

1169
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:57,920
deflections for Elijah Jones and
just a little background on him.

1170
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:03,400
Not heavily recruited out of
high school, not heavily

1171
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:05,040
recruited at all out of high
school.

1172
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:08,160
Had offers like UMass,
Connecticut, Coastal Carolina

1173
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:11,360
from the state of New York,
ranked as an 86 in the class of

1174
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:13,960
2018.
So he's been around a while.

1175
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:17,560
And Brian?
Why does he have so many picks?

1176
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:22,880
Because he's a ball hawk, he's
their boundary corner shout out

1177
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:26,040
and and he's he's a ball hawk
man.

1178
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:28,440
He's really able to hold up well
in zone.

1179
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:31,440
He's also active in their run
game, so he'll come up, make

1180
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:35,320
some tackles there as well.
Really thrives in man coverage

1181
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:39,120
though and the really the only
weakness he has is that he can't

1182
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:41,480
get fooled with a double move.
So if you throw that on him,

1183
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:45,440
sometimes you can get guys open.
Down the field for a big play

1184
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:51,000
but yeah he he's a guy that
whether it's man or zone he can

1185
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:52,520
make a make an interception
happen.

1186
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:55,600
He's a he's definitely a
playmaker and a ball hog and you

1187
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:59,120
know we we LED with the with the
corner back here number one he's

1188
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:01,280
a boundary corner #2.
I mean this.

1189
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:03,720
Y'all this is our 4th year doing
this podcast.

1190
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:06,480
Y'all didn't need to hear about
fucking Vinnie De Palma one more

1191
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:09,600
fucking time.
Or there was one other one on

1192
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:10,280
there.
Who was it?

1193
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:16,080
Hold on, Cam Arnold.
Cam Arnold also graced it twice.

1194
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:19,760
Cam Arnold graced it twice.
So I had to mix that up and pull

1195
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:21,480
somebody else.
And then again, you see a guy

1196
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:24,640
that has five interceptions and
you look at where he ranks like

1197
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:26,000
you've got to go.
Look at him.

1198
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:27,440
That's one.
As soon as I saw the numbers,

1199
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:30,640
I'm like, I don't care if he's
got like 4 in one game or three

1200
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:33,000
in one game.
That guy's doing something right

1201
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,760
in that case.
Yeah, two against Georgia Tech

1202
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:39,160
and he had two against Syracuse.
And Syracuse's quarterback.

1203
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:41,720
So Syracuse's quarterback was
just throwing the ball to him.

1204
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:45,000
So the.
First one was awful.

1205
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:47,320
He's the worst.
Quarterback I ever watched play

1206
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:48,840
he.
Recognized the one-on-one

1207
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:53,680
coverage, but so Jones had
inside position and he just.

1208
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:55,800
He threw it almost to the damn
middle of the field, like he

1209
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:57,840
gave his receivers zero chance
to get there.

1210
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:00,440
And you know what's crazy is
because, and I know we're

1211
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:04,040
getting off a little bit, but
Syracuse's backup quarterback

1212
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:09,480
was like a four-star.
Maybe like a 92 guy coming out

1213
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:12,560
of high school went to Florida
transferred from Florida to

1214
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:15,160
Syracuse.
Horrible.

1215
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:20,800
Maybe it was one game, but it
was he was the worst game that

1216
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:22,200
I've it looks.
Like dog shit?

1217
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:24,440
Oh my.
I think he threw 4 picks.

1218
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:27,560
He may have threw 5.
So what are you telling me

1219
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:31,480
before they got that confidence
really high against a really bad

1220
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:32,360
quarterback?
Yeah.

1221
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:37,000
Yeah, I mean, we knocked.
We knocked straight out so

1222
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:38,800
straighter didn't play.
We messed him up.

1223
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:41,200
Yeah, he didn't play.
And that.

1224
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:43,560
That backup quarterback didn't
do them no justice.

1225
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:45,720
Shit.
And.

1226
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:49,440
And and most of the the The bad
thing is I watched the end of

1227
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:52,440
that game as shitty as Syracuse
played.

1228
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:54,680
That's what I was just like,
hide the game.

1229
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:57,640
How?
The hell you can force 4

1230
01:03:57,640 --> 01:03:59,840
turnovers.
You play against the terrible

1231
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:02,520
backup and you can't win by more
than seven and I.

1232
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:07,080
See, I think Robichaud got hurt.
Whenever he got killed by that,

1233
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:12,600
either the safety or the outside
linebacker when he got hit and

1234
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:14,840
then they looked at it for
targeted, but he fumble the

1235
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:17,480
ball.
I think that's when he got when

1236
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:20,600
he got banged up.
But again, that's just me

1237
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:24,120
digging and looking at stuff.
We ain't going to talk about it

1238
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:27,040
till they come on the field.
And hell, sometimes it don't

1239
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:28,560
matter with Virginia Tech like
you said.

1240
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:32,240
I remember fucking playing
Georgia Tech when they had that

1241
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:34,960
stupid ass offense.
They bring somebody out of the

1242
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:37,600
stands and put a jersey on them.
They rush for two on the yards.

1243
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:40,440
So.
If they could run, they were

1244
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:42,400
going to run against us.
They're going to run against us.

1245
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:45,800
All right, let's talk about a
couple of them.

1246
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:47,600
Like I said, we're we're
avoiding the linebacker room

1247
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:49,280
because go look at the old
episodes.

1248
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:51,000
Brown will give you a little
breakdown on De Palma and

1249
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:52,960
Arnold, who are two of their top
linebackers.

1250
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:55,280
Let's talk about George Rooks
though.

1251
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:57,720
Brian and I want to talk about
George Brooks was.

1252
01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:00,200
George Brooks was a pretty
highly recruited guy when he

1253
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:04,320
come in, Came out of high school
a composite 4 star, a composite

1254
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:08,160
top 200 or top 300 player.
He originally committed to

1255
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:12,960
Michigan, then transferred to
Boston College from there.

1256
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:16,040
And even when he transferred, he
was still considered a pretty

1257
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:21,280
high prospect, still ranked at
an 87 and so far this year, not

1258
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:24,600
having great numbers.
But again, you start doing a

1259
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:27,480
little reading and it's like,
OK, he's kind of a key part of

1260
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:31,800
this offense because all he's
got this year's 22 tackles, sack

1261
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:35,760
and a half, 1/4 fumble.
But Brian, what is he doing

1262
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:38,000
that?
That really caught our eye while

1263
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:42,040
we want to talk about him.
Active and strong hands, this

1264
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:46,880
guy is.
He pops on the film as soon as

1265
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:49,440
if you if you're looking at
technique he just pops right

1266
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:54,200
away like everything he does is
very sound, does a great job

1267
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:55,760
penetrating the line of
scrimmage.

1268
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:58,240
Doesn't get moved in the double
team.

1269
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:02,240
Knows those when to get down
crawl through the double team.

1270
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:07,360
I mean, he does everything very
well and he's deceptively quick,

1271
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:09,840
so sometimes, you know, if
you're not communicating

1272
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:12,160
properly, he'll slip in the
backfield, can make a play

1273
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:15,960
there, tackle for loss.
I'd say he's better against the

1274
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:19,680
run than he's not so much of A
pass rusher, but he will impact

1275
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:22,840
there as well.
But he's definitely a guy that

1276
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:26,520
you have to account for every
damn time you line up because he

1277
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:30,720
will make some plays.
Well, first of all Robbie had a

1278
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:32,520
had a chime in real quick on
that.

1279
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:37,200
So they forced 6 turnovers and
still lost.

1280
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:39,840
That's a bad way to go out, man.
That's.

1281
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:41,080
Tough.
That hurts the heart.

1282
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:44,960
Man, that does hurt the heart.
Man So as good as Rooks is

1283
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:47,640
because Rooks is on the inside,
he is AD tackle right?

1284
01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:49,360
Is he?
Is he three primary or does he

1285
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:50,560
kind of move around a little
bit?

1286
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:52,520
He moves.
Around, but he's primarily 3,

1287
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:54,760
OK.
So we could see him all over the

1288
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:57,640
inside of the line, which is
very interesting to see.

1289
01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:01,000
I go from there and I go to the
one of the guys on the outside

1290
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:04,720
here and that is Donovan
Izaruku.

1291
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:07,280
Yep, I butchered that close.
Enough.

1292
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:09,280
I apologize.
Nothing about it I wouldn't

1293
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:09,960
even.
Try it.

1294
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:14,880
You wouldn't even try. 39
tackles so far, 2 sacks, 5

1295
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:17,400
tackles for loss, force, fumble,
pass deflection.

1296
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:20,160
So obviously every time I see a
defensive line with a pass

1297
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:22,000
deflection that tells me they
get their hands up.

1298
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:24,840
I hate that so much.
Hate it so much unless we're

1299
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:28,200
doing it.
But again, a very, very under

1300
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:32,720
recruited guy out of, you know,
out of high school in the class

1301
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:37,720
of 21 like Bucknell, Columbia,
Elon, Fordham, Harvard, Holy

1302
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:41,520
Cross, Holy Cross, who almost
beat BC just a few weeks ago.

1303
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:49,240
Kidd is from the state of New
Jersey, a 83 when he came out.

1304
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:53,000
And Brian, he's coming off the
edge.

1305
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:56,680
Are you going to be worried if
he's lined up to the right side

1306
01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:59,560
of our line?
I mean, he's got pretty good

1307
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:01,560
speed.
He's not necessarily your your

1308
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:03,960
prototypical pass rusher, but I
like his speed.

1309
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:07,680
It's really more.
He's got great instincts in the

1310
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:11,440
running game, you know, he knows
where to be.

1311
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:14,080
He kind of gets a good feel of
what the offensive line is

1312
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:15,840
trying to do and how he can kind
of get by.

1313
01:08:16,319 --> 01:08:19,399
He's really not shedding a lot
of blocks.

1314
01:08:19,399 --> 01:08:21,960
He's not.
He's he's not using his hands in

1315
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:26,080
the same way that Rooks is, but
he's just really good at.

1316
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:29,960
Kind of avoiding those blocks,
using his instincts, getting in

1317
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:32,640
position where you can get those
tackles, those tackles for loss

1318
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:34,800
and things like that.
So that that's really his bread

1319
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:38,160
and butter.
He's not a good pass rusher,

1320
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:43,000
he's just average, but but he is
an impact player in the running

1321
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:46,319
game, so that's something that
we have to pay attention to.

1322
01:08:46,359 --> 01:08:50,760
All right.
So let's talk about the Hokie

1323
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:52,960
keys, because we got quite a few
things here.

1324
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:55,040
And Tally, I'm going to let you
lead it off here.

1325
01:08:55,880 --> 01:09:00,000
What's going to be your big key
this week for the Hokies?

1326
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:02,520
Kind of what we talked about
earlier, man.

1327
01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:05,000
I mean, we just need to see the
team that we've been seeing at

1328
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:09,479
home, you know, we need to go
in, listen to Baja, man, before

1329
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:12,399
the game.
Fucking let the dogs out, you

1330
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:15,760
know?
Come on now, we got to go in

1331
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:18,200
here and we got to play.
There's nothing to hold back

1332
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:20,439
for.
There's nothing that we need to

1333
01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:22,640
be thinking about.
You know, we keep talking one

1334
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:24,920
and O.
Don't worry about the next game.

1335
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:28,000
Go win this game.
This is the game.

1336
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:30,880
There's no more games.
Go win this one.

1337
01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:33,680
Throw everything.
You got to throw at it.

1338
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:36,800
Don't hold anything back.
Don't go in there with that

1339
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:39,359
pussyfooting around letting
people push you around.

1340
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:41,720
If they get in your face, you
get back in their face.

1341
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:44,840
I mean, go play football, go
play with genie, Tech football,

1342
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:47,279
all of the stuff that we had
seen us doing.

1343
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:49,279
Just go do that.
Build on that.

1344
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:52,160
All right.
Brian, what's some of the stuff

1345
01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:54,920
you've got?
Counter punch quickly.

1346
01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:59,800
Because if we don't come out and
we're not let the dogs out the

1347
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:05,200
gate there, as Tally mentioned,
we need to make sure that what

1348
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:09,760
if our script isn't working, if
if we go out there and we have a

1349
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:13,720
bad offensive series or we go
out there and we let them, you

1350
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:17,800
know, run 12 plays and get a
touchdown ball up the game plan,

1351
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:19,440
get to something different
quicker.

1352
01:10:19,440 --> 01:10:23,000
Let's figure it out.
Within one or two drives instead

1353
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:26,640
of four to five drives or six or
seven drives, let's figure out

1354
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:28,600
what they're doing.
Let's be quicker with those

1355
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:34,080
adjustments and let's not let
them dictate the terms that

1356
01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:37,880
whole first, second quarter.
At some point we need to start

1357
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:41,760
dictating the terms on the road
and make them have to play our

1358
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:45,640
game A. 100 percent.
I've got AI.

1359
01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:47,840
Got a couple here if y'all want
to chime in with a couple I

1360
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:49,240
wrote down.
I think y'all probably feel

1361
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:52,520
them.
My big one is do not give up

1362
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:56,440
sacks at his team.
Do not, I swear to God if they

1363
01:10:56,440 --> 01:11:00,520
have more than one.
Heck if I don't get mad at one.

1364
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:05,200
This team has 11 sacks all year,
APR has 9.

1365
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:08,200
By himself.
They are 123rd in the country.

1366
01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:12,120
Do not give up fucking sacks.
And y'all we.

1367
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:14,080
We see how it always turns our
team up.

1368
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:18,360
My second big one, what we did
at Syracuse, and I know

1369
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:19,960
Castellanos is a different
runner.

1370
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:23,920
Clog the escape lanes.
Garrett Schrader didn't know

1371
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:25,600
what to do when he didn't have
an escape lane.

1372
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:27,640
Castellanos is going to do the
same thing.

1373
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:29,840
We get those escape lanes and
he's chucking the ball.

1374
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:31,520
It's not going to be one, it's
not going to be two.

1375
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:34,440
He's going to throw 3 picks.
Anything else?

1376
01:11:34,440 --> 01:11:36,640
Y'all got no.
I was.

1377
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:40,320
I mean, you hit it perfect, man.
When you talk about the not

1378
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:43,720
giving up sacks and and like
Brian said earlier, their

1379
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:46,760
quarterback is there what that
offense is going to run through.

1380
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:50,400
You know, as he goes, they go
clog those lanes up.

1381
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:53,040
Let's go in here, play Virginia
Tech football, let's get back

1382
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:54,360
home with a win.
Yep.

1383
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:56,080
And I I'll chime in the last
one.

1384
01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:59,400
Get them behind the six man.
Let's get some tackles for loss.

1385
01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:01,960
Let's get them.
And down in distances where

1386
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:06,760
Castellanos has to be a drop
back quarterback and not a dual

1387
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:10,840
threat running quarterback with
the option off that play action.

1388
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:14,360
If we can get them in obvious
passing situations, we can tee

1389
01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:17,000
off, we can stay in those rush
lanes, we can get them off the

1390
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:19,000
field in the one point what Alex
said.

1391
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:21,520
With those tackle for losses,
when you get them three yards

1392
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:24,080
and you slam behind a lot of
scrimmage and let them know

1393
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:26,720
about it, yeah.
Don't help them up, let them

1394
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:28,120
know about.
Don't help them up, walk away

1395
01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:31,400
and well, don't get the penalty
because y'all know we'll scream

1396
01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:32,320
at somebody up there.
Don't.

1397
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:34,320
Stand over them.
We've already had one.

1398
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:36,920
Don't do that.
Just walk away and shake your

1399
01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:41,040
head and be like, all right, so
let's move on.

1400
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:43,520
We got our predictions.
We got big screeners presented

1401
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:47,800
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daily fantasy app where you make

1402
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:50,360
entries based on player
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1403
01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:53,560
I actually looked at some
basketball this week, got out

1404
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:56,520
Jason Long.
I wonder how much he'll do.

1405
01:12:57,280 --> 01:13:01,440
And I looked at assists because
Ona tomorrow night, Boston and

1406
01:13:01,440 --> 01:13:04,040
Phillies playing.
And so I'm looking over here.

1407
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:06,040
They got Jason Tatum at 4
assists.

1408
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:08,840
He ain't getting 4 assists.
That man trying to go for 40

1409
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:11,560
tomorrow night.
And it was one more I got here,

1410
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:13,000
my second one.
Where'd it go?

1411
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:16,080
Where'd it go?
Oh, shoot.

1412
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:17,680
Where'd he go?
I'm mad about this.

1413
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:19,400
It was a one.
I was like, that's the one I'm

1414
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:21,840
going to bet on.
I'm effort in here.

1415
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:24,000
Hold on, Hold on, hold on, hold
on.

1416
01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:27,960
I'm sorry y'all this.
Really.

1417
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:31,560
I should have clicked on both.
And I didn't click on the second

1418
01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:38,000
one here.
Oh, Russell Westbrook.

1419
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:39,720
They're playing Brooklyn 5
assists.

1420
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:42,520
No, that man's going for at
least eight tomorrow night in

1421
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:45,000
Brooklyn.
So over Russell Westbrook

1422
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:48,840
assists Under Jason Tatum
assists with prize picks.

1423
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:53,800
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1424
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:58,040
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1425
01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:00,280
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I'll let Brian pull it up here.

1426
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:02,040
Yeah, we're we're sharing it now
here.

1427
01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:05,680
Right there.
Easy to go.

1428
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:07,880
All right.
I didn't get a chance to

1429
01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:09,280
calculate last week.
It won't.

1430
01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:13,040
Good because Oklahoma lost.
We all picked Oklahoma and they

1431
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:15,440
had points.
Well, I think we all got

1432
01:14:15,440 --> 01:14:18,040
Washington, right.
It was not pretty.

1433
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:19,800
It was not pretty.
You should have faded the

1434
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:23,080
Boundary Corner podcast last
week and I don't know about this

1435
01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:27,240
week.
Let's talk about the Let's talk

1436
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:29,600
about this game boys.
Brian, I'll let you lead it off

1437
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:32,120
here how you feel as we Whoa, I
got small.

1438
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:36,920
I did get small.
How you feeling, by the way, if

1439
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:38,400
y'all haven't been paying
attention out there.

1440
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:41,120
This line started at 4 1/2 two
days ago.

1441
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:44,680
It has sworn 6 points in two
days.

1442
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:47,280
I've never seen anything like
that.

1443
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:50,720
Yeah, you don't see Lions swing
six points.

1444
01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:53,040
You've seen they got.
Some they got some people hurt,

1445
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:55,280
man.
They got to have some people

1446
01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:57,480
hurt.
Robichaud must not be going,

1447
01:14:57,480 --> 01:14:59,080
man.
Yeah, I should see.

1448
01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:01,680
Well, again, this is just board
talk.

1449
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:04,480
This is just board talk.
That's saying Robichaud and

1450
01:15:04,480 --> 01:15:06,760
brooms hurt.
All right, we'll see.

1451
01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:09,800
All right, Brian, what's your
prediction for this game?

1452
01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:14,520
I got the Hokies.
I got the Hokies winning.

1453
01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:19,640
This is, this is the game where
we got a nut up or shut up

1454
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:22,360
because, you know, at some
point.

1455
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:25,520
This is the type of team that
you got to go out there and beat

1456
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:29,480
every time you play them.
I got the Hokies winning 2717.

1457
01:15:30,440 --> 01:15:33,480
All righty, I'm going to go next
and let let let Tally close out.

1458
01:15:33,480 --> 01:15:34,920
What are you doing with that
screen, man?

1459
01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:37,320
You were messing me up.
If I was drunk, I'd be all.

1460
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:38,680
Screwed up.
We're good.

1461
01:15:38,680 --> 01:15:40,120
Now it's settled.
It's settled.

1462
01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:41,880
I don't know what the hell was
going on, but we're good now.

1463
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:45,240
All right.
So Brian, I like to nut up or

1464
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:46,640
shut up.
That's a great one here.

1465
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:50,800
And this is truly one of the mid
ACC teams we've beaten.

1466
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:54,760
The bad we have, we've been
three of the bad, this is truly

1467
01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:56,200
one of them is they're three and
two.

1468
01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:59,520
There's six and three overall.
They lost in Northern Illinois.

1469
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:01,120
They should have lost the Holy
Cross.

1470
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:04,800
I would like to see us really
blow them out.

1471
01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:07,400
I don't think we quite blow them
out, but I think we win this

1472
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:09,920
game.
I think at the fourth quarter

1473
01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:11,960
Tally's able to call us and
breathe.

1474
01:16:12,480 --> 01:16:16,960
Tech 28, Boston College 16.
Tally, what are you thinking?

1475
01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:20,600
You know what, man?
Starting it out, I said.

1476
01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:23,640
We're going to beat them by 14
points.

1477
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:26,440
We're going to go up there.
You know, maybe it was good for

1478
01:16:26,440 --> 01:16:29,360
us to get our heads beat in so
we would have a little bit of

1479
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:30,680
different mindset going up
there.

1480
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:33,040
We're going to go up there and
we're going to show them who's

1481
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:34,760
boss.
I ain't going to say that

1482
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:38,160
though.
Right here on the BCP big screen

1483
01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:40,040
is, I'm going to say, Boston
College.

1484
01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:42,760
I.
Hope they put I hope they put my

1485
01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:45,360
face up in the locker room and
say this motherfucker picks us

1486
01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:47,600
to lose.
I'm picking Boston College to

1487
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:49,560
win.
I hope I'm bullet bulletin board

1488
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:53,080
material and.
Everybody jumps on me on Twitter

1489
01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:55,680
because I'm picking Boston
College, but I'm picking Boston

1490
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:56,840
College.
You know why?

1491
01:16:57,800 --> 01:16:59,880
Because I can't.
I've seen us get our fucking ass

1492
01:16:59,880 --> 01:17:02,760
kicked last week and I don't
think nobody was mad about it.

1493
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:05,960
So coaching staff, prove me
wrong.

1494
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:08,840
Go up there and show people you
can run on the road.

1495
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:10,560
Go up there and show people you
got some nuts.

1496
01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:13,840
There you go.
All righty.

1497
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:16,120
I don't know if you got
something from Shelton.

1498
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:18,040
I know he's been, he said.
Tech.

1499
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:20,480
You got tech.
All right.

1500
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:23,680
No score prediction?
No score prediction, just tech.

1501
01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:27,680
Shelton also was out in the
Midwest for the better part of

1502
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:31,480
this weekend, so it's luckily we
were able to get in touch with

1503
01:17:31,480 --> 01:17:33,720
him at all.
Shelton has been went from under

1504
01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:36,200
the weather to on the road in
Tulsa, so oh.

1505
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:38,200
Yeah, he moving it.
He moving and grooving.

1506
01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:42,800
All righty, let's roll it up
here and let's get to.

1507
01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:45,920
Our big screeners.
Lots of fun games this weekend.

1508
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:50,000
Lots of implication, by the way.
Y'all I know I did.

1509
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:52,320
I did not get a chance to see
the playoff picture come out

1510
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:54,880
tonight.
Y'all imagine a year from now.

1511
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:58,000
And just, I mean, y'all, we hope
the Hokies are in these

1512
01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:01,200
conversations next year.
But legitimately, I think

1513
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:09,200
anybody with a number, even 20,
like early 20s, if they went out

1514
01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:12,720
next year, you got a shot to go
play for a national title.

1515
01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:14,840
And.
Everybody's sitting here.

1516
01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:17,960
It's like this isn't going to
help the sport.

1517
01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:21,480
It's watering down the sport.
Brian, what's the what's the

1518
01:18:21,480 --> 01:18:24,440
Line from Shawshank Redemption?
Hope man.

1519
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:28,720
Hope it's a dangerous thing and
what it's going to do is keep us

1520
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:31,160
watching the TV closer.
But let's start Ole Miss,

1521
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:34,200
Georgia.
This is Tally's big Screener of

1522
01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:41,040
the Week Georgia laying 10 1/2.
What are we thinking, Tally?

1523
01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:43,240
I think I'm going to go to
Georgia, man.

1524
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:46,200
You know, I I kept leaning
towards going Ole Miss because I

1525
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:49,080
do like some of the stuff that
Lane Kiffin does.

1526
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:52,160
But I just think Georgia, I
don't think Georgia's going to

1527
01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:54,280
get really tested into the SEC
game.

1528
01:18:55,440 --> 01:18:58,800
The SEC Championship, excuse me,
SEC Championship is where I

1529
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:01,720
think they may falter.
I think they're going to take

1530
01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:04,680
this game.
All righty.

1531
01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:09,040
Shelton rode right with you,
Tally E rode with you and I'm

1532
01:19:09,080 --> 01:19:14,240
riding against Brian, you with
her against I'm.

1533
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:16,560
Going the other way as well,
this game is going to come down

1534
01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:20,200
to the wire.
Lane's got them playing pretty

1535
01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:21,840
good.
I feel like they're in This game

1536
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:25,840
is going to be like a six or
seven point victory for Georgia,

1537
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:27,440
but Olvis is going to give them
all they want.

1538
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:30,320
I'm, I'm with Brian on this.
I think Olmus is going to give

1539
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:33,320
them all they want.
Missouri was able to move the

1540
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:36,760
ball on them and I know that's a
chance for Georgia to fix it,

1541
01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:40,080
but Lane's a mastermind at that.
Now they going to give up some

1542
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:43,360
points, but I think Brian it's
like a six or seven point game,

1543
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:47,200
10 1/2 too much to lay here.
All righty, this is my big

1544
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:49,240
Screener of the week.
Yep it's at 12.

1545
01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:53,120
At the same time I'll be going
multi TV, potentially Penn State

1546
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:55,120
at Penn State.
Michigan, Michigan.

1547
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:59,280
Laying five with all the shit
that's going on at Michigan

1548
01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:02,200
right now with the Connor
Stallions, the potential they're

1549
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:06,280
saying they might fire Harbaugh,
by the way.

1550
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:10,360
What are they really doing that
none of these other teams are

1551
01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:13,520
doing?
Realistically I.

1552
01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:17,320
Don't know, man.
They just, you know what, you

1553
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:18,960
know what it is.
I love what somebody said.

1554
01:20:19,160 --> 01:20:20,720
And I'm not trying to defend
him.

1555
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:22,840
What Harbaugh say about the TV
money?

1556
01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:25,560
You know what he said about TV
money?

1557
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:28,840
What he said.
Players deserve part of that TV

1558
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:30,640
money.
Oh yeah, they got.

1559
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:33,080
I don't like that they got.
To get him out of there.

1560
01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:36,840
Hey, I get him out of here.
But in this game it is in Happy

1561
01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:38,400
Valley.
It is a noon kick.

1562
01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:40,840
I do not know who's going to win
and when.

1563
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:42,960
I don't know who's going to win.
Give me the home team.

1564
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:47,280
Give me some points.
I'll take Penn State tally.

1565
01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:50,840
What about you on this one, man?
I never like taking Penn State

1566
01:20:50,920 --> 01:20:53,080
in anything, but I'm going to
take Penn State.

1567
01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:56,280
Just like you said, home team.
They got a lot going on.

1568
01:20:56,720 --> 01:20:59,000
They got the points.
Give me Penn State.

1569
01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:04,280
All righty.
Shelton Shelton's got Michigan.

1570
01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:06,560
And you know what?
He's right.

1571
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:10,120
He's right.
Harbaugh is going to shut out

1572
01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:13,760
the noise.
They're going to play like the

1573
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:16,680
top three, top two team they are
in the country.

1574
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:17,960
They're going to take care of
Penn State.

1575
01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:20,880
Buy more than five.
Buy.

1576
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:24,160
More than five.
That's what take care of me, OK?

1577
01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:27,080
We going to see what's the
score, what's the score, how big

1578
01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:28,280
is it?
Is he going to lay it on them?

1579
01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:31,680
I don't think they'll lay it on,
but I think it will be about a

1580
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:34,360
about a 10 point win, 10 point
win.

1581
01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:36,440
All right.
All right, let's roll to the

1582
01:21:36,440 --> 01:21:38,280
next one.
Brian, your pick for the week.

1583
01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:46,000
Mizzou and Tennessee, You know,
Mizzou showed me a few things

1584
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:49,280
there with with that Georgia
game last week.

1585
01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:51,480
I know I kind of rode with them
a little bit on that line

1586
01:21:51,480 --> 01:21:53,120
because that was a kind of crazy
line.

1587
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:57,360
Tennessee only getting one here.
Give me Mizzou.

1588
01:21:59,920 --> 01:22:02,920
All righty, All righty.
I'm going complete opposite of

1589
01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:05,120
you because they were in a war
against Georgia.

1590
01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:08,480
Most teams that play Georgia do
not win the week after.

1591
01:22:08,480 --> 01:22:11,440
It just seems that way because
Georgia beats the crap out of

1592
01:22:11,440 --> 01:22:15,040
people and with a one point,
basically a pick em game.

1593
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:22,000
Gibby, Tennessee.
Well, I mean both of y'all are

1594
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:24,440
pretty knowledgeable.
I don't know what pick right, so

1595
01:22:24,440 --> 01:22:26,920
I just.
Looked at what Brian picked, he

1596
01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:29,280
was the last one that did good.
And I said I'm going to go with

1597
01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:34,160
Brian.
I just, I think, I think, I

1598
01:22:34,200 --> 01:22:37,120
think Mizzou is going to be
pissed.

1599
01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:40,000
I mean they had chances in that
game against Georgia.

1600
01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:42,280
Georgia's probably the best team
in college football.

1601
01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:45,840
And you know, you throw a pick
to a defensive lineman and a

1602
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:48,400
couple other things and game
gets blown open.

1603
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:50,680
So I think they're going to come
in pissed off, man.

1604
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:55,960
I got to go Mizzou.
And Shelton filed it up there

1605
01:22:55,960 --> 01:22:59,040
with Tennessee, Said Shelton is
riding with Curtis on this one,

1606
01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:01,760
right with me on this one.
All right, we got a couple more

1607
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:03,520
games here.
Let's go out West because it

1608
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:07,880
seems like we always go out West
for at least one USC, Oregon,

1609
01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:11,800
Oregon laying 15 points.
USC coming off that heartbreaker

1610
01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:14,320
against Washington, which was
an.

1611
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:18,400
I watched a lot of that game.
That was a entertaining game to

1612
01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:22,040
watch.
Yeah, this is Sheldon.

1613
01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:23,720
So what's Sheldon saying on this
one?

1614
01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:27,680
She's laying or taking.
Sheldon is out there taking

1615
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:29,360
Oregon here all.
Right.

1616
01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:33,040
And you know what?
Hell yes.

1617
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:36,000
Hell yes, I think.
I think that game might have

1618
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:39,080
finally broken USC.
Yeah, well, the.

1619
01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:42,080
UW game, yeah.
Kayla Williams was crying.

1620
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:43,800
It looked like they broken,
yeah.

1621
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:45,720
Yeah.
So I I think, I think that team

1622
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:47,560
is finally broken.
I think you're going to see

1623
01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:49,880
some.
I mean it's not going to be a

1624
01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:54,360
blowout, blowout, but it I think
it's going to be like a 17 or 20

1625
01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:56,280
point and then.
They And then they fired it off

1626
01:23:56,560 --> 01:23:58,680
defensive coordinator, too.
They did.

1627
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:00,440
But it don't matter.
It don't.

1628
01:24:00,440 --> 01:24:03,360
It don't matter Whoever the
defensive coordinator, I don't

1629
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:05,760
believe Lincoln Riley coaches
anything but offense.

1630
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:07,720
I don't think he steps into a
room as a head coach.

1631
01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:11,840
If he wasn't given superior
talent at Oklahoma and USC, he

1632
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:13,840
would have been fired a long
time ago.

1633
01:24:14,160 --> 01:24:19,280
Oregon by 24.
I'm going to say Lincoln rally.

1634
01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:20,440
'S on fraud alert.
I was.

1635
01:24:20,440 --> 01:24:24,280
Going to say I was going to say
Oregon by 21, so all right, me

1636
01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:26,000
and Tally on the same day they
blowing.

1637
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:28,960
The doors off, we finally
riding, riding across the board.

1638
01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:32,280
First of all, all right last
one.

1639
01:24:32,440 --> 01:24:35,560
Classic ACC rivalry.
Game.

1640
01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:42,640
Wide, right One ride right two.
All those good games back in the

1641
01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:44,280
90s.
Some war.

1642
01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:46,760
Some fights.
Florida State.

1643
01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:52,080
Miami 14 1/2, that is a lot of
points.

1644
01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:55,720
Brian, what are you saying on
this one give?

1645
01:24:55,720 --> 01:25:00,040
Give me them points, man.
I I I think that Florida State

1646
01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:01,840
is going to blow the doors off
this team.

1647
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:08,760
I think Miami, much like USC, is
kind of broken right now and I

1648
01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:11,280
feel, I feel like the last few
weeks of the season they've

1649
01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:14,960
really kind of fallen back to
where we thought they would be.

1650
01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:18,600
From Jump Street there and I
think they've been broken a

1651
01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:21,440
little bit.
I think FSU is going to bust it

1652
01:25:21,440 --> 01:25:23,400
off one a little bit.
I I think about another about

1653
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:27,120
1718 point win here.
So they'll cover that 14 and a

1654
01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:30,680
half, all right.
I I'm up next on this one.

1655
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:32,920
This one's at the Doke, so it
will be loud.

1656
01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:37,360
It will be energized and I think
Florida State's going to win the

1657
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:39,120
game.
I think they're going to win by

1658
01:25:39,120 --> 01:25:43,160
like 14.
So if this was 13 1/2 I would

1659
01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:45,760
have won the other way.
That hook is what got me.

1660
01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:48,400
Curtis said the hook brought him
back, Brought me back.

1661
01:25:48,440 --> 01:25:55,320
Maybe the hook brought me back.
But if if if Cristobal can't get

1662
01:25:55,320 --> 01:25:58,640
them up to play this game
because they look flat against

1663
01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:01,840
NC State, they looked so flat.
If he can't get him up for this

1664
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:04,760
game, he might not have a job
come December.

1665
01:26:06,440 --> 01:26:09,000
Yeah, I kind of, I kind of feel
like, Curtis said.

1666
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:12,280
You know if it would have been
just 13 1/2 I probably would

1667
01:26:12,280 --> 01:26:13,560
have would have took Florida
State.

1668
01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:17,680
But I don't know.
I know Florida State's wide

1669
01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:21,760
receiver room's been banged up.
Neither one of the top wide

1670
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:24,480
receivers played last week.
I don't know if they go this

1671
01:26:24,480 --> 01:26:27,480
week.
I do know Miami has the athletes

1672
01:26:27,480 --> 01:26:30,320
to play with them.
I still think Florida State

1673
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:34,320
wins, but I think it may be
about, you know, 13 or 14 and

1674
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:40,560
not 15.
So I'll take Miami on this and.

1675
01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:43,440
Shelton is riding with me on
this one with Florida State.

1676
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:48,320
Very, very entertaining.
Only one outright and multiple.

1677
01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:52,760
No 3 way agrees.
If I was, if I was anybody

1678
01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:55,480
watching Boundary Corner, I
would put my money on the

1679
01:26:55,480 --> 01:26:58,040
Trojans this week.
Because all of us.

1680
01:26:58,640 --> 01:27:02,800
Bet on you better go the other
way.

1681
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:05,320
Go the other way like we agree
it's not hey.

1682
01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:07,800
We were right on dub last week,
though, so we were right.

1683
01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:09,760
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Take that to the back they got.

1684
01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:12,400
A Heisman one on they team.
I guess USC got a Heisman one on

1685
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:14,000
they team too.
So true, man.

1686
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:15,640
That's true.
All right, boy, is anything

1687
01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:18,440
broken in the last hour and 90
minutes here?

1688
01:27:19,480 --> 01:27:21,720
My heart thinking about that
last week game against

1689
01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:25,400
Louisville, Yeah, I see that my
heart won't broken as soon as I

1690
01:27:25,400 --> 01:27:27,360
watch the first few plays and
the way we look.

1691
01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:29,160
He was like, let's do something
else.

1692
01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:31,440
Let me go play with the kids.
Well, the.

1693
01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:34,280
Well, The thing is, a couple
neighbors came over, watched it

1694
01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:37,960
in the garage with the kids.
So you know, when he got 21, it

1695
01:27:37,960 --> 01:27:41,080
was just kind of like you.
You know, we all done it, right?

1696
01:27:41,440 --> 01:27:43,680
Yeah, we've all had the coping.
Where you see we ain't going to

1697
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:45,400
win this game.
I'm going to go ahead and start

1698
01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:48,080
my coping.
Now get it out by the time

1699
01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:50,320
dinner started.
My wife made a delicious potato

1700
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:54,680
soup last Saturday night.
Hit the spot, The game was over,

1701
01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:56,840
I was eating and I was like,
this tastes great.

1702
01:27:57,120 --> 01:27:58,760
It's a couple good games on
late.

1703
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:01,360
Go have myself a nice Coors
banquet.

1704
01:28:04,120 --> 01:28:08,640
Not.
A sponsor, not a sponsor, but

1705
01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:12,520
but Brian, we got Tally.
I won't let Brian tell you what

1706
01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:15,080
he had to do because he was in
Blacksburg at Hokie House.

1707
01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:19,920
Brian, what did you do?
So I cut it.

1708
01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:22,720
I cut it off as soon as like, as
soon as they we got up.

1709
01:28:22,720 --> 01:28:25,200
Well, we got down 14.
I was like, all right, let's

1710
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:27,920
head back to the hotel.
Head back to the hotel.

1711
01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:34,480
We had dinner reservations at 7.
At 622, NI was like, yeah, I'm

1712
01:28:34,480 --> 01:28:37,800
not going to, I'm not going to
interfere with that potential

1713
01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:38,920
day.
Let's go back to the hotel.

1714
01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:42,080
Let's hang out, get showers, get
ready for dinner.

1715
01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:46,200
I can still watch game.
This won't be in reach of any

1716
01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:47,840
significant amount of alcohol.
I will.

1717
01:28:47,880 --> 01:28:49,440
Not Jerry Binding alcohol.
I will not.

1718
01:28:49,440 --> 01:28:52,640
I will not take this any further
than I I've already taken it.

1719
01:28:52,680 --> 01:28:56,520
So yeah, it's the way we do it.
All right, Well, boys, that does

1720
01:28:56,520 --> 01:28:59,680
wrap up this episode of the
Boundary Corner podcast brought

1721
01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:02,120
to you by Main Street Pharmacy
in Blacksburg, VA.

1722
01:29:02,120 --> 01:29:04,240
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I'm Brian Siegler.

1723
01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:09,160
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1724
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:11,600
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1725
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1726
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1728
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1730
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1731
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1732
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1733
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1735
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