Hokies Season Prediction
Boundary Corner Podcast
Hokies Season Prediction

In this week's episode we're giving you our predictions of how we think the Hokies will finish the 2021 season. This episode is also chock-full of Hokie Headlines, including our discussion of the ACC/B1G/Pac12 "Alliance" and the impact of losing Director of Recruiting Beau Davidson.

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Welcome back to the boundary
Corner podcast.

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I'm Curtis Wilson.
I'm Brian siglo buddy.

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Hump day.
Wednesday night.

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How's it been man?
Well Dave oh we got.

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We were twinning here.
We're beard winning party.

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Would find poke longer.
Yes, sir.

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Get six more in the basement.
I'm going to get you in there in

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the broadcast but relationship,
we go out and buy you some and

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go even Lane Stadium.
This your buddy.

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It's been spinning.
Another.

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Great week another week off of
work, but we call them work with

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a lot more work.
I'm no, you're doing more or at

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least somewhat equal amount of
work, despite not working.

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Meanwhile, I'm over here, I'm
back in the office for the first

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time, since March of last year,
only this week and then also

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starting Masters Masters classes
for the semester today.

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It's been a A full day I
finished up with that about 10

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minutes before we jumped on
here.

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So nice.
How was the commute in from

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Mechanicsville downtown?
It's not bad by new parking

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spot, has cut 10 minutes off my
walk-in combined with my

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commute.
So I'm saving 10 minutes now.

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Wait a second.
Did they put you on the side of

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the river?
I'm on this side of the river

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when I'm, no, I'm no longer on
Mayo Island.

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I am now at the train station.
So you're moving up in the world

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down there then.
Yeah man, I'm good.

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I've got the Primo spots now
that is absolutely sweet man.

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And me, I'm just doing me
hanging out with the kid having

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a good time much-needed.
Much-needed, time.

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And have a great time with her
but it is work.

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It is work from 5:30 a.m. to
when the wife gets home and but

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it's been good, you know, not
many companies, give that you

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know, parental leave.
I got a month ago.

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It's all Awesome.
I'm going to take a another week

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and then after Labor, Day back
to the normal grind, and man

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looking at hokey football, we
have a lot to cover tonight.

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Last week with breast pick six
reviews.

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Awesome, awesome time with Tim
we spent some time with him

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before and after got me even
height for the season.

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But tonight what we're looking
at, folks are two big topics.

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We're going to talk about the
alliance announcement.

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Yesterday with some people are
clowning on some people saying

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it wasn't an announcement.
I got some different views from

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those two, and then we are going
to give our season preview

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record.
Do not take this to Vegas or any

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sports adequate might lose
money.

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Thank you to Vegas.
I like my pics mu.

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This is all Pixar.
For entertainment purposes, only

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lock it up.
You cannot.

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Let's start it out.
We're gonna we're gonna start a

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sort out with the, I don't know,
bro, what do you call this?

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Let's just call this the
depressing opening.

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And let's start with really sad
news from last week.

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A manual Belmar.
Has to retire, you know, what do

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you think, Ronnie?
You played football in.

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This guy has to stop before.
Essentially, it's over for him.

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Yeah, and I mean, I had to do
something similar for different

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reasons, so, I mean, it sucks.
Anytime that you still have

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eligibility, like, if your
yourself, you'd still be

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playing, but something else kind
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So that aspect of it, always
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It's big time and I feel for
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I mean he bled maroon and orange
when he went out on that field

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man.
And you know, I felt like he was

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starting to come into his own a
little bit towards the end of

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last season wanted to see if he
was able to take a step this

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season, but with some of those
the concussions and everything

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else going on towards the end of
the season, it just looks like

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he was never able to get back to
to where he needed to be to

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play, so unfortunate for him,
but hats off to him.

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We'll miss him out there on the
field this year.

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Absolutely, I'm hats off to him.
Hats off to him for also, trying

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it to give it a try and fall
Camp, one more time and then

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realize where he was he couldn't
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There are people out there that
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it.
But obviously, for him, it was a

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look down the road in 20 years
since I want to say, when we are

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in our life and we got a wife
and kids and there's going to be

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potential consequences down the
road for the Hokies.

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Definitely hurts defensive in
you know him gone Alec Bryant

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gone, Robert wooden gone and
that's big.

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You know, we were we were hoping
for Belmar then you know you got

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a healthy Garbutt back, probably
having a first two lines where

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you felt pretty good about even
if you weren't necessarily

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jumping for joy.
Now, that gets a little bit

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sketchy heading into the season.
First line, not not too

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concerned about, but kind of
that, that fourth and fifth DN

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is where you start seeing a
little bit of.

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We feel good about Jalen
Griffin, we haven't seen as much

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with the question is Cole
stretch Carroll one of these

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younger guys, do they take a
prominent role and I think you

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know, we're ten days from seeing
that but as far as Belmar goes,

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that man will be forever
remembered for getting on that

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ball.
UVA game to extend the streaks,

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both ways.
He was there, he got it and you

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know, I think there was a
picture of him.

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Somebody put it on Twitter, it
was a picture of him holding the

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ball and you could just see the
UVA fans are the faces were

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like, oh God.
No, not again, not again, but

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Emmanuel Belmar.
Best of luck to you and whatever

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you do.
I am sure you're going to do

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great things, whatever, Walk of
Life takes you.

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All right.
Poor sad news.

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We're starting all sad because
you You know, we got to get out

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of the way early.
I can't make it in today.

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Xavier Simmons D commits.
Some people said they had known

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about this for months weeks.
Nothing I don't ever remember

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seeing anything.
But again, I'm also got three

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kids.
I was running around like

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chicken head copped off.
You did a position group, I

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think we're okay.
It sucks losing because he's an

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all-around athlete.
Yep, it's not like a crippling

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position.
Where we have no one coming in

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or no one already on roster of
talent.

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Yeah, I mean I've heard things
like family had friend or

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acquaintance on coaching staff
there You shot.

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So it could be something related
to that, but it's still a big

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loss for the Hokies.
You can't spend it any other

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way.
This was probably our, I'd say,

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number two, number three, that
recruit for this cycle and you

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know, losing a player of that of
that caliber, you know,

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composite borderline for Star, 4
Star by 24/7.

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I mean, you can't just say, oh,
that's not gonna make a

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difference.
It's definitely going to make a

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difference, especially the long
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So definitely sucks losing out
on on Xavier Simmons and hurts.

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Some of our case that were
trying to make against the, the

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other people in the ACC, we went
into North Carolina and got one

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and now, we don't.
So yeah, there's, there's that

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element of it to now.
He didn't go to UNC vote, but we

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have dessert.
When you get a win in, in the

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state of North Carolina, you got
to take one and unfortunately we

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weren't able to close the deal
and and carry that through to

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sign.
Day.

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So best of luck to him at
Missouri but I was looking

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forward to seeing you in maroon
and orange True.

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You talk about the relationship.
It's the Eli drink was

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connection, who was a tap stay,
just a couple years ago.

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So obviously, you know, AB State
just literally probably the same

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amount of drive from the 336 as
it is to Blacksburg.

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So, obviously a connection there
and like you said we had talked

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about, he was one of the crown
jewels, right?

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Yep.
Gunnar Ramon.

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We consider Rashad, we consider,
Him.

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So you lost a crown jewel.
Now I'm not going to say the

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name yet but there is a name
that is coming up more and more

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often.
I'll hope these boards from the

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state of North Carolina now
playing in Virginia for this

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season that be on the lookout
for this guy.

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Just I'm not going to say the
name but start reading folks.

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The one other thing that I did
not like about his deep

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commitment he literally did it
right before cam Johnson

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committed.
Like listen man, you want to D

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commit that school, but you
legitimately know this guy's

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going to the university that
you're leaving.

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Just think about that.
That's kind of those life

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decision things where it's kind
of like I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm

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gonna You're gonna laugh at this
point but it's kind of like if

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you get pregnant.
And you go to a friend's

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wedding, you do not announce
that you're having a freaking

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baby at the Friend's Wedding.
You just don't do it is bad

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taste.
That's what happened about that

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and we're going to shut the door
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All right, there next up big guy
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say this is sad news but it's
kind of out opening news with

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Devin Taylor getting in the
transfer portal.

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How did you read this?
I read that as he was

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essentially, going to be the
third guy up at boundary safety

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because I it looks like they're
cross-training Tay daily both

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positions.
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And he's essentially going to be
the first Sub in with more than

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likely counted Jenkins, taking
over at at free and obviously,

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Devon Hunter locking up boundary
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There so sounds left A daily was
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kind of pivot player and he was
kind of ahead of where Devon

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Taylor was at boundary safety
but also the best man up at the

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at free as well.
So he probably Devon saw.

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It is probably not going to get
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the field this year, maybe can
go and see what take my talents

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somewhere else and get on the
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It was, It was kind of the, the
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opportunity last year based on
He came in I mean that was that

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was kind of big for us your
Shoring up a departure with you

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know a cornerback and he was
pegged to play either cornerback

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or and then we had to end up
moving him over to to safety

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once we had started having some
some thinness there.

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So exactly.
Um it's definitely a little

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depth concern just because we
felt like we had about four or

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five guys that were that were
ready to play at the safety

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position.
Now we're probably close Sir, 2

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3 or 4.
So definitely, you know another

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the theme of this season ladies
and gentlemen is going to be

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depth because Frontline, we're a
decent team.

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Yeah, we're probably your, I'll
say it eight or nine when team

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if we stay 100% healthy all year
but one injury at certain

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positions could drop about three
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there so you can go home
followed season 2.

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A parrot, really.
It would make the last few years

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when I say that 20 and 18 look
actually decent.

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I say the one piece you talk
about a daily.

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I think it says tase better at
both.

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The he is the case.
Essentially, your de facto, it's

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the old school NCAA, right?
You have the one safety have two

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safeties that are 99 and one
backup is a 90, and a 92, and

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he's your backup and both and
then the red shirt freshman, you

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just put us third string but I
also wonder if Jalen strowman

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and Walker aren't pushing him to
where it was to a point.

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We can't see it.
Is it to a point where I'm not

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even really 3D now like I'm 40
I'm five deep like these guys

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have caught me and have passed
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that's the case because even if
tase your 1A 1B you still have

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potential to be that next man
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So you're one injury away from
at least seeing rotational

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duties.
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It be it could be that that
Stroman had Asked him even on

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the depth chart as far as
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that would definitely put him in
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would struggle to get on the
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This season are and, you know,
catastrophic injury situation at

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that position.
Yep, that's true.

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All right.
So the last piece of happy or

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bad news happy.
I don't know depending on who

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you are but yeah this was this
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perspective.
If exactly Bode Davidson

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officially today, is now
director of recruiting at Texas

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Tech.
Apparently, getting a handsome

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pay.
Raise also, getting to where he

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is about three hours from
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Both of he and his wife.
Congratulations for him on that

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for us, we don't have a director
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in the position three months
when John yet see officially

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step down.
So he kind of has guided the

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ship the last three months.
Very good commitments.

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You give him credit for that
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director, that is partially,
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Now, the argument is now going.
We need higher in season well as

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somebody pointed out yesterday.
Well, we're in Dead period.

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You can't do anything anyway.
So do you really need a

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director?
I don't think we do.

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I think you just let whoever is
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where only if you know, we're
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Signing Day you.
Let them got it in versus trying

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to teach someone on the Fly.
What about you?

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This one's difficult because I
think in terms of timing, I

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think if you're going to lose
your director of recruiting,

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probably, this is one of the
better times to do it because

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you're far enough along in the
22 cycle where he's not the guy

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that's really working with those
relationships anymore.

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It's more in the hands of the
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the staff.
It's, he's not really as

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Hands-On on those things
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Second, you're not really into
the 23 cycle proper yet. the

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only concern is getting someone
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ground running to make sure that
we don't fall behind getting

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getting those names in
establishing those relationships

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early at our, the enough of the
cycle where we feel like we're

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placing ourselves in a position
heading into the 2022, calendar

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year, where we can actually, you
know, close some of those, you

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know, once February March, and
April hit, which is when we do

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you really start seeing Those
first big round of commitments

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come through for the next cycle.
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And you know what was a Texas
guy and you know he he gets a

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bad rap of what happened in
Virginia and and we don't know

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that stuff we don't know from
behind the scenes, we don't know

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his involvement with how much
Virginia was pushed.

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How much Texas was pushed?
He seems like an Enthusiast, no

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Texas was push, heavy breathing
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We actually, we don't know to
what degree Virginia was given

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the short change as As a result
of that true we don't, and we

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never know.
And unless you talk with him

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and, you know, this was the kind
of a fun thing to see on Twitter

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yesterday.
Brian people are like well, who

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wants to be the new director of
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And I saw like Vegas Robinson,
and some people call me.

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I'll do it.
I'll do it positions like that,

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and this is no disrespect to
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Positions like that.
You aren't just given off the

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street.
Bo Davidson had essentially

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worked as a ga or in some type
of capacity role for 14 years

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before he got that opportunity
and I know guys move up and down

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faster and I see a lot of
people.

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Something I can do really good
relationships here.

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And they were, as director of
recruiting, you can't actually

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go do the relationships there,
you can, too.

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It's NCAA.
You can't you can be from the

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no.4 have the greatest
relationship with with Highland

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Springs with piranha with
Manchester with every school.

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Cool.
This is this is what you're

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doing.
You call them and there's only

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so many times you can talk to
the kids.

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Director of recruiting is
essentially putting the game

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plan in place.
So when I see guys saying we can

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do this in this, the guys who
are interested in doing that, my

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suggestion, Rob.
And this would be, I'd love to

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see these guys do that.
And one of the guys in Richmond,

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did it Davon Morgan create
football camps Hopkins,

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brothers.
Did it.

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Get the kids in Camp, if you
want to push them to Virginia

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Tech because you bring them in,
you teach them something.

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And then potentially, you take
them to Blacksburg that would

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like a recruiting is a whole
different story.

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It's a different ball game.
And I'll say this, I would love

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to have someone in that role.
That's either a former player or

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a graduate that has the passion
for the school year.

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I think you absolutely 100% need
that.

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And that's one thing that both
probably did not bring to the

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table.
Will he not, not, not the

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greatest understanding of you
know Virginia high schools and

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what which high schools are
important.

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But also the passion for, you
know, everybody Blacksburg Feels

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Like Home to pretty much
everyone that goes there.

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I get that.
But there's a, there's a big

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difference between living that
and experiencing that after the

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fact and having someone that is
an alumni or played for the

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Hokies, would certainly be an
Asset.

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That's not to say that you can
throw any former player in that

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role and expect to Bear the
fruit.

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I think that I think that's a
very gross overstatement of what

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the director of recruiting does
and you know if the guys are

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really interested like that now
to me there are There are two

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guys actually take that three
guys, former Hokies who are on

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the path that they wanted a
position like that.

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Dave ons down at enh engine
after he did his camps up here.

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You've got rock Carmichael's up
in.

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Michigan coaching High School
football?

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I think it is actually a
Preparatory Academy.

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Instead he Whitley up to J mu
now home.

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You think about what they're
doing?

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They're not doing recruiting.
They are doing on field

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coaching.
Is that the path they take.

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We don't know if you ask my
personal opinion right now, To

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me Pearson Prelude.
I think could get in that role

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in absolutely dominate.
Here's a, a tool is an

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All-American at Virginia Tech.
He knows the culture Pearson

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praying, Lou coached and Raptor.
I think he's been on the staff

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long enough to and Player
Development to understand the

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state of Virginia, but I also
think he understands would

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understand the whole footprint
of recruiting.

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He played lead 10 years.
I mean, why not piercing, you

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know what I mean?
I can't really think of a.

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If you're looking for an on
staff candidate, that isn't

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Moaning someone that's already
working on the recruiting staff.

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Yeah, Pearson would be the
number one choice in my book.

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Just because having that former
player aspect NFL pedigree

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understanding Super Bowl ring
Super Bowl ring.

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Yeah, understanding things and,
you know he under I think he

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understands what kind of built
the Hokies huh?

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When he was there and
understands what it's going to

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take to kind of get that type of
been Eyetality back and it

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starts with winning the state.
I mean, you can say what it

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said, what you want we
absolutely need to have a

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footprint that's wider than what
we had in Beamers are.

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Oh it can't, it can't just be
mostly Virginia and then a

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handful of kids from Florida,
but you need to still put your

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flag in your state and say now
you're not getting all these all

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these top 10 State kids.
We're going to get at least to a

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cycle, maybe three years.
Cycle.

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And until we start doing that,
it's still going to be a

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struggling, we've done better
this year but this should be

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kind of the the low average not
the heights, you know I'm

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saying?
Well I'll hundred percent.

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This is this is what this is,
what we would expect yearly like

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an average recruiting cycle is
kind of what we're looking this

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year, doing the top 10 multiple
in the top 15 multiple in the

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top for me.
This will be have urge what we'd

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like to see is obviously mean
you would be like root of 4 in

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the top 10 6 Plus in the top 15.
And if we're going to recruit 25

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kids ate in the top 25,
essentially absolutely 30% on

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the top, 25 kids.
Should be coming to Virginia

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Tech in Virginia so you know,
that's our feel on that.

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Anything else to add on this
one?

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Brian before we roll on I say
I'm with Tally who I just threw

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the the common up there.
We should be right at or in the

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top 20 every year in every five
years, we should be dropping a

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top-15 class.
If we want to get to where we

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want to get, which is winning.
The ACC somewhat consistently

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and competing for a college
football.

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Playoff Mission.
Absolutely, that's what we have

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to do. 100% but we've only done
one, top 15, class.

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Ever since the rankings have
come out now, maybe you go back

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and say, well, they should have
readjusted some of those because

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they completely whiffed.
Well, we'll see about that

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later.
All right.

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Let's keep the well, let's get
to the Happy Times.

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Happy Times nappy time y'all.
We got a commitment.

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He is a composite for star.
He is a top 50 Corner in the

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country.
He's a top 300 player.

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Cam Johnson of the st.
Frances Academy in Baltimore 6

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foot, 165 Corner Brown.
What do you think of Cam?

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I really like this a lot.
I like, getting back into

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Maryland.
I like this guy's attributes

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that can bring to the table.
Good size, right out the gate

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moves.
Well turns his hips.

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Well, doesn't shy away from
contact, either.

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From the film I've seen, so all
around a really good pick up and

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hopefully we can we can close
the deal and getting through

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Signing Day.
Yeah definitely going to keep a

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definite going to be a fight
with him.

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I'm obviously I think it was us
in Maryland as the finalists but

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But really good pickup.
Really good landing.

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And, you know, we're still
hanging onto like, 15th 13th or

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12th with 24/7, even with it.
Because when Simmons came on and

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he can't come as one off, he
came on.

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We literally stayed at the same
spot because they were very

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quickly rank very close.
Yeah, very close.

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I think 24/7 was pretty much a
Pick'em between, but cams

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composite is a little bit
higher.

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Even though, we like 24/7
better, he's a There.

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But I think they'll get a bump.
I think right now.

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But as we get into the season,
if you just look we're

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recruiting is I don't think
we're going to follow me.

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I don't think we're going to
fall to 30 because if you start

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going through there's only so
many teams that are going to be

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able to add more.
Are there going to be some

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Elites that passed us?
Yes that's going to happen.

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Are there going to be some top
15 teams?

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Currently that passes?
Yeah but I don't think it's

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going to be enough because we
still are probably going to pick

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up anywhere from three to four
more.

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Or one we talked about earlier
is a pretty highly ranked guy

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which is going to help us even
more.

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I don't see it as follow.
Do you think we're going to be

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in the 30s?
Or do you think we're going to

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have a 2 next?
Our number at the end?

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I think we're going to be kind
of where we typically are, which

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is somewhere between 25 and 30.
I don't think we're going to

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drop into the 30s in.
A lot of this is going to depend

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on what happens in the season
and immediately following the

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season.
So I'll put that In there.

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But if things roll through say,
we finish like eight, and four

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staff is retained, you know,
whatever it is.

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I think we finish somewhere
between 25 and 30 things go,

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south other big changes are
made.

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Then obviously, all bets are off
exactly.

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Well, the whole piece I'll say,
is this, I don't think it was so

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much far, south after what
happened last year, even with

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the codes.
Now after I mean, For real.

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Like what I mean, how much worse
can it, get glad that they're

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also, they're even with all that
turmoil.

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There wasn't a whole lot of
movement towards the for

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Designing day.
So what exactly?

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I think I think barring an
actual change in regime.

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Your we were probably looking at
not not too much of a drop-off,

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very true, very true.
Alright so next what we're going

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to look at here, I put my beer
down and make the announcement

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for I have a set of the Hockey
Hall of Fame was announced lots

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of I played we're going to focus
on the three hokey football

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players.
Let's start.

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Brian with Tyrone.
Drake Ford, someone essentially

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00:27:02,300 --> 00:27:06,700
from our use, someone actually
connections to our hometown.

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00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,500
I know she's probably not
listening but I'll still shout

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00:27:09,500 --> 00:27:11,300
out.
Maybe somebody else, say heard

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you on Facebook, the other
night, Brenda best cousin,

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00:27:14,700 --> 00:27:19,400
Tyrone Drake, furred Corner.
Played a tech in the 90s.

456
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,900
A hell of a football player was
drafted by the Niners, won a

457
00:27:23,900 --> 00:27:29,400
ring with the Niners played up
to 2001 one of those original.

458
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,700
One of the original guys, that
started the DB you man.

459
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:37,000
Yeah, I mean, this is a big one
for you because I'd say really

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all three of these guys that
we're going to talk about our

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00:27:39,500 --> 00:27:43,300
kind of big for us in general.
But this one for you with with

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00:27:43,300 --> 00:27:47,400
the 49ers tie in there one.
But yeah, I mean Tyrone Jennifer

463
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:53,400
was kind of the the 0 g of D bu
here and nothing.

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00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,700
But good things to say about it.
Time in Blacksburg.

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00:27:55,700 --> 00:27:58,900
And it was one of those guys, as
you mentioned, when we were,

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00:27:58,900 --> 00:28:02,900
first, first turning on the
television by choice to follow

467
00:28:02,900 --> 00:28:06,800
the Hokies, that was the name we
heard.

468
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,800
And that we love seeing making
plays so exactly.

469
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,600
We were younger were probably
nine, ten.

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We were starting to get our
cognitive stuff together.

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And essentially, he was, you
say, what you want to say?

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He got drafted in 94.
So he was a literally part of

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00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,500
the team that saved Beamers
career.

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If guys like Drake for it,
aren't there guys, like,

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00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,500
Maurice, deshazo aren't there in
93?

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00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,500
We who knows what happens to the
program.

477
00:28:35,900 --> 00:28:39,600
Now buddy?
The next two guys, this was our

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00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,000
Heyday.
This was a hey dark man.

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00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:49,900
My heart with the X-Men Xavier
adibi.

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00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,400
From down a phoebius down in
Hampton.

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00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:58,800
I mean my favorite defensive
player from that era other than

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Darryl Tapp.
So it's I mean, it's and then

483
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,000
you can have the argument is
he's the greatest backer of all

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00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,800
times.
People can fight, you can fight

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00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:16,100
with him and Tremaine, you know,
but you know it goes back in.

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00:29:16,100 --> 00:29:18,200
This is again guys.
You know, you played in the

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00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:22,500
league for years.
He was all ACC was All-American

488
00:29:22,500 --> 00:29:25,400
in 07 and he was just one of
those guys.

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00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:31,600
You were hauling a DB and you
know it goes back again.

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00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:37,500
It was during our Heyday, he was
a freak dip.

491
00:29:37,700 --> 00:29:41,500
A frequent linebacker for his
time and I'm trying to think of

492
00:29:41,500 --> 00:29:43,200
what play.
Was it brown was it that energy

493
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,900
was one of the interceptions
we've talked about on here

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00:29:45,908 --> 00:29:51,100
before.
I know I'm drawing a blanket as

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00:29:51,100 --> 00:29:54,200
well.
I wish you would, but how many

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00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,500
plays he made?
So awesome.

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00:29:56,500 --> 00:29:58,800
This guy getting home?
Yep.

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00:29:59,700 --> 00:30:06,500
You know, and obviously he was
again, one of the what's Brother

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00:30:07,100 --> 00:30:10,200
set of Brothers.
Yep, man, you played before he

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00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:14,600
follow the ante up.
It's so it's it keeps going on.

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00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,200
Yeah, I mean so when when I
think Hall in the DB I mean that

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00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:23,200
was that was like one of my
favorite areas for this defense

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00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,700
because Hall was solid always
there.

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00:30:25,700 --> 00:30:29,800
And then a DV was like he was
just the playmaker, he was all

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00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,600
over the field, he was getting
interceptions, he was breaking

506
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,900
up passes, he was completely
knocking the shit out of guy.

507
00:30:36,100 --> 00:30:39,400
As if they were trying to get
outside of the edge.

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00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,900
I mean, just watching those two
was awesome and a DV was

509
00:30:42,900 --> 00:30:47,300
definitely one of my favorites
of those those 2000s teams that

510
00:30:47,300 --> 00:30:50,200
were just so good.
Absolutely.

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00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:55,400
And I mean, they were part of
literally the defenses that were

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00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,700
number one in the nation that
were holding those two light

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00:30:57,700 --> 00:31:02,000
eight points that we used to
screen if we can have a decent

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00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,400
bleep and offense, we will win
Idol.

515
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,500
Just just too.
Just so you know how nasty is?

516
00:31:08,500 --> 00:31:15,900
That was 266, tackles 25 tackles
for loss nine, nine sacks.

517
00:31:17,300 --> 00:31:20,500
He had eight picks as a middle
linebacker and really three

518
00:31:20,500 --> 00:31:23,900
years playing full-time.
That's nuts.

519
00:31:23,900 --> 00:31:26,600
Oh, all right.
So finally folks we're going to

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00:31:26,608 --> 00:31:34,200
hit my local here to the r-va
Victor, too Macho Harris out of

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00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:42,400
Highland Springs va mean.
One of them, was it the first

522
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,100
five-star landed first five-star
landed right?

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00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:50,900
Was Mikey, I think.
In, man, he was a lockdown

524
00:31:50,900 --> 00:31:56,100
Corner in every sense of the
word, multiple Ace, multiple,

525
00:31:57,900 --> 00:32:02,000
all-acc, feel like, I don't want
to say, he was an All-American

526
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,000
to.
It's not telling me that here,

527
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:10,400
but also, you know, a little
little background here coach.

528
00:32:10,700 --> 00:32:15,600
Well, Hometown friend of ours,
Charlie Crittenden.

529
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,600
He actually coached me my
sophomore year.

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00:32:18,700 --> 00:32:23,000
Year of high school offensive
line making grad.

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00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:29,100
So I won't hold that against him
but he he was coaching Macho

532
00:32:29,100 --> 00:32:32,000
when he was in high school at
the Highland Spring.

533
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:37,400
So I remember hearing about
this, this Macho Harris guy

534
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,500
before, some other folks are
ready for it.

535
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:46,300
But Just the number one.
Like there's there's so much

536
00:32:46,300 --> 00:32:50,600
Swagger that Macho brought to
the to the to the to the feel,

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00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:55,800
their got the offensive
defensive and special teams

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00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,000
touchdown.
I mean that that's still like

539
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,000
that's something that that just
doesn't happen every day.

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00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,400
I mean, nothing but good things
that could be said about macho

541
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,000
man.
Yeah, two guys.

542
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,800
Did it Macho Andy Hall.
Yep.

543
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,800
That's it.
And they any was Special special

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00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:17,300
athlete.
And, you know, it's great to see

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00:33:17,300 --> 00:33:18,800
these guys.
I don't know when they'll be

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00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,700
inducted.
I probably find it on the

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00:33:20,700 --> 00:33:24,100
schedule.
Depending on that game is we

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00:33:24,100 --> 00:33:27,600
don't have to Circle that one.
Brian to go up to visit.

549
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,400
Yeah, that'd be a good one.
I might be a good one.

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00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,400
All right, so next thing we're
going to look at here, folks,

551
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,800
and we're rolling right along as
fast as we can.

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00:33:36,100 --> 00:33:38,400
He is.
We are going to look at the ACC

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00:33:38,900 --> 00:33:46,100
Corona policies this year.
Last year was really they go 07

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00:33:46,100 --> 00:33:50,600
Macho at Clemson very devil.
All right so here are the kind

555
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,000
of the three guidelines.
Most match, the other

556
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,100
conferences of the third one's a
little different.

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00:33:55,100 --> 00:33:58,700
First one is if a game cannot be
played on its original.

558
00:33:58,700 --> 00:34:01,900
Scheduled date due to a team
have an instant of an

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00:34:01,900 --> 00:34:06,800
insufficient number of people
due to the covid-19 virus that

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00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,300
team will forfeit.
The game in the wind will be

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00:34:10,300 --> 00:34:13,000
assigned to the other team.
Everybody's doing it makes

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00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:14,300
sense, right?
Yep.

563
00:34:14,900 --> 00:34:16,199
Makes sense.
Yep.

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00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:21,000
Second one, if the ACC game
cannot be played on the date for

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00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,400
any Factor.
Other than that in there are

566
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,100
game discontinuation
circumstances.

567
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,300
I'm a little Tsum.
That would be like, hurricanes

568
00:34:30,300 --> 00:34:34,600
coming through, you know, other
factors potentially medical

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00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:39,400
factors, something like that.
Those games essentially, Looking

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00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:45,500
at a potential reschedule.
So basically, anything freak

571
00:34:45,500 --> 00:34:47,800
over the could get cancelled and
rescheduled, it would be

572
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,900
cancelled and rescheduled.
Yep, the third one is the most

573
00:34:50,900 --> 00:34:53,699
interesting one.
No other conference has this.

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00:34:55,199 --> 00:34:59,600
I'm going to read this verbatim.
If a 2021 ACC game, cannot be

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00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:03,400
played on its original scheduled
a due to both team being able to

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00:35:03,500 --> 00:35:07,100
play due to an insufficient.
Number of players related to the

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00:35:07,100 --> 00:35:11,200
covid-19 virus.
Both teams, shall be have demon.

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00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,800
Forfeited, the Forfeited the
game.

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00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,800
And a loss will be assigned to
both teams and apply to the

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00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:22,000
conference standings double L's
12w hell's.

581
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,000
So that's exactly what you want
to hear double else.

582
00:35:25,500 --> 00:35:26,700
I mean I'm sure they're going to
be

583
00:35:42,900 --> 00:35:46,300
Nobody's getting anything.
It essentially applies, the

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00:35:46,300 --> 00:35:51,000
pressure across the board.
It's not just, you know, it's

585
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,700
not just a game of chicken.
Like if you both can't play,

586
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,600
Then you both get the L.
Love it, love it.

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00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:03,100
So, there are the policies based
on kind of what you're seeing

588
00:36:03,100 --> 00:36:06,600
from throughout college
football, all the players are

589
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:11,600
over, 95 percent threshold.
Most teams Virginia Tech hasn't

590
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,700
confirmed, but I don't, Think
they'll ever be able to confirm?

591
00:36:13,700 --> 00:36:18,400
100% mode themes, are probably
between 97 and 99.

592
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,800
It might be a few guys here and
there medical reasons, and or

593
00:36:21,900 --> 00:36:26,900
religious purposes.
Not, you know, vaccinated in

594
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,600
your fine.
Exactly.

595
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:35,000
Jay bernzy for shout-out SS
cause more Coastal chaos.

596
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,100
So there's gonna be like three
of them, right?

597
00:36:37,100 --> 00:36:39,100
Yep.
So that's what the coastal does.

598
00:36:39,900 --> 00:36:42,300
All right, Brian.
I mean I mean this the coastal's

599
00:36:42,300 --> 00:36:45,700
already, I mean, it's already
going to be interesting because

600
00:36:45,700 --> 00:36:48,800
you feel like you got a tier one
and then you got a tear to, but

601
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,500
there's not a huge gap.
I don't think a little bit

602
00:36:52,500 --> 00:36:55,400
margin for error.
Can can really throw things into

603
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:59,000
a tailspin there and put
probably four or five teams in

604
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:03,100
play for the coastal going into
the later part of November

605
00:37:03,100 --> 00:37:05,100
there.
Exactly.

606
00:37:05,900 --> 00:37:07,800
All right.
So we're going to hit our first

607
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,800
big topic of the night.
The Yesterday from the ACC, the

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00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,300
Big Ten in the Pac-12 about
their Alliance Brian.

609
00:37:15,300 --> 00:37:17,600
Before we get into some
individual points, me and you

610
00:37:17,607 --> 00:37:22,200
have kind of, pulled out.
What was your overall field on a

611
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:23,200
jeweler?
All feel?

612
00:37:25,100 --> 00:37:27,500
Well, the first time I heard
about it, I could all I could

613
00:37:27,500 --> 00:37:30,500
think about was Dwight asking
Jim if you wanted to form an

614
00:37:30,500 --> 00:37:36,600
alliance and to, which either
the response is absolutely, I

615
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:41,800
do.
Yeah, my first thought was, I

616
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:46,200
think this I wouldn't consider
this as a power move.

617
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,400
This isn't a power move, but
this is a, this is a move about

618
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:54,700
viability and survival in what
looks to be a very uncertain.

619
00:37:54,700 --> 00:37:59,600
Next, several years in terms of
realignment and things of that

620
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,400
nature.
So I don't think a partnership

621
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,100
can hurt.
I just, we'll get into it, but

622
00:38:06,100 --> 00:38:10,000
I'm not sure exactly how much
it's helping other than

623
00:38:10,300 --> 00:38:13,100
potentially looking at the
scheduling aspect of it.

624
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,100
Yeah.
We're going to we're going to go

625
00:38:17,107 --> 00:38:19,000
into couple times.
I think it's a leverage play

626
00:38:19,700 --> 00:38:21,600
because I think.
Now, if you've got three

627
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:26,800
Commissioners on board Any sort
of NCAA rulings any sort of

628
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,100
college football playoff,
they're going to have leverage,

629
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,900
right?
They've got more institutions,

630
00:38:31,900 --> 00:38:34,700
and they've got more power
because we have three

631
00:38:34,700 --> 00:38:38,200
conferences, and it's
essentially at the SEC is like

632
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,200
cool.
You've got the two big boys, but

633
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:44,400
you're still one conference.
So you don't hold all the cards

634
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:49,000
versus if if they had kept Texas
and Oklahoma in the Big 12 and

635
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,900
just said, hey we're forming a
partnership.

636
00:38:50,900 --> 00:38:53,200
We're going to play is
everybody's going to play at

637
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,200
least one cross.
Conference game every year.

638
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,800
Drop it at that.
All right, let's jump into the

639
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,100
first thing Ron.
The first thing I kind of caught

640
00:39:01,100 --> 00:39:05,600
my ear listening this yesterday
is they said, 41 schools.

641
00:39:06,500 --> 00:39:09,300
Let's do math Brian.
There's 14 ACC schools.

642
00:39:09,700 --> 00:39:13,100
Yep, there's 14.
Big Ten schools.

643
00:39:13,500 --> 00:39:16,700
Yep.
There's 12 pack 12 schools, that

644
00:39:16,700 --> 00:39:20,200
equals 40.
So what does that tell you who

645
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,900
is the plus one?
Well that plus 1 is going to be

646
00:39:23,900 --> 00:39:25,900
more than likely Notre.
Dame.

647
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:32,300
So mainly and I say that because
this Alliance was talking about

648
00:39:32,300 --> 00:39:36,100
football and Hoops Partnerships.
So by default they were they

649
00:39:36,100 --> 00:39:38,800
might have been thrown in there
so it'll be interesting to see

650
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,600
what that really means for
football.

651
00:39:41,700 --> 00:39:44,900
But the fact that it's 41
definitely means that Notre Dame

652
00:39:44,900 --> 00:39:47,700
is in play there.
Yeah you got swarbrick on the

653
00:39:47,700 --> 00:39:50,700
cfp model.
Also, the other thing I'm going

654
00:39:50,700 --> 00:39:53,400
to say is this, I don't know how
long the contract is and if

655
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,700
somebody out there wants to look
it up and put it in a message to

656
00:39:56,700 --> 00:40:00,700
us, do it, Notre Dame is
contracted to play five, ACC

657
00:40:00,700 --> 00:40:05,600
games a year.
Five, if you start looking at

658
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:10,600
their other primary rival
throughout time, Navy's warm you

659
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:15,900
up at 6:00 Purdue Michigan
State.

660
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:21,200
Northwestern Michigan have been
their primary Rivals.

661
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,900
The Michigan series is weird,
but you're doing Michigan State.

662
00:40:23,900 --> 00:40:29,000
Were there every year that gets
you up to about nine or ten

663
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,200
every year?
Give or take and then West Coast

664
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,600
wise, they always played USC and
Stanford.

665
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,800
Yep.
If for no other reason, they're

666
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,700
getting into.
This is will keep our five ACC

667
00:40:39,700 --> 00:40:42,000
games.
We can get back on track with

668
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,600
the big 10 games and we've got
our West Coast game.

669
00:40:44,700 --> 00:40:47,300
Eames we assume we think that
the only thing they would for

670
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:52,700
they would balk at, you know,
looking at is, all right.

671
00:40:52,700 --> 00:40:57,200
So we're playing schedule-wise
they would probably be on the

672
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,500
upper end of the Spectrum in
terms of strength of schedule.

673
00:41:01,700 --> 00:41:03,000
Yeah, maybe.
Yeah.

674
00:41:03,100 --> 00:41:04,400
Every year.
Yeah.

675
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,700
Now granted if they stay
independent while adopting this

676
00:41:09,700 --> 00:41:12,700
model, they probably will need
that strength of schedule to

677
00:41:12,700 --> 00:41:15,700
make their case for a playoff
position every year.

678
00:41:17,700 --> 00:41:19,400
But again, being involved with
it.

679
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,300
It's going to be a lot easier to
just go in there and say, we're

680
00:41:22,300 --> 00:41:24,900
going to play five in the ACC,
we're going to play a few in the

681
00:41:24,900 --> 00:41:27,400
Big Ten, we're going to find the
few and the Pac-12.

682
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:32,000
Essentially, let us be your one
of your games every year and

683
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:37,100
hate to say this not hate to say
this no team is going to turn

684
00:41:37,100 --> 00:41:39,400
down a series or a game with
Notre Dame.

685
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:44,900
It is too much money, it's
either you're getting National

686
00:41:44,900 --> 00:41:52,500
exposure on NBC or if, if You
are getting them at home.

687
00:41:52,500 --> 00:41:55,100
A your home stadium is going to
sell out.

688
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,500
The secondary ticket prices are
going to be insane.

689
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:01,900
The hotel room rates are going
to go insane.

690
00:42:01,900 --> 00:42:04,600
You're going to make a lot of
money that weekend, but also

691
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,400
your normally, and again, I say
normally because this year, they

692
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,200
bleeped it all up.
Although it seems like there's

693
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:14,000
about to be a deal between
Comcast and ESPN to get the ACC

694
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,700
Network on your Glimpse.
Hope we did get the, we did get

695
00:42:17,700 --> 00:42:21,000
the oh, we made a mistake line
with all the other the other

696
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:26,200
night we made a mistake.
We actually put a cc Rooming on

697
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:31,000
the SEC secondary Channel.
Yes, that was a test to make

698
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,300
sure they could get it done, but
you're going to get a prime-time

699
00:42:34,300 --> 00:42:38,300
game with them and every team
wants that exposure.

700
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,900
Alright Braun.
You mentioned it football and

701
00:42:41,900 --> 00:42:46,100
Hoops Partnerships.
We think.

702
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,800
I mean, they're definitely
targeting the sports that are

703
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:56,100
bringing in the money so that I
mean that that's.

704
00:42:56,100 --> 00:43:00,800
Probably what this is all about
because more or less any sort of

705
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:04,500
realignment in any sort of major
votes are going to hinge on

706
00:43:04,500 --> 00:43:08,900
those two sports.
Great, very true, very true.

707
00:43:09,500 --> 00:43:13,000
So that that's why it's
strategically position for those

708
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,400
who supports that that's the
ones bringing in money.

709
00:43:15,700 --> 00:43:20,100
That's the ones where these
decisions matter in terms of

710
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,100
dollars at the end of the day,
right?

711
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,100
Oh yeah, dollars by the end of
the day.

712
00:43:26,100 --> 00:43:33,400
Now they mentioned a few other
sports as well, you know, Pac-12

713
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,600
and Big Ten Women's Volleyball
is its exception.

714
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:41,300
I've watched a couple big ten
games before but then you kind

715
00:43:41,300 --> 00:43:44,700
of think about think about a
Virginia Tech, secondary sport,

716
00:43:44,700 --> 00:43:46,200
that's not football or
basketball.

717
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:51,800
Think about wrestling in
potentially getting meets with

718
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:57,400
Big Ten, where you've got Iowa
in State Minnesota, some really

719
00:43:58,100 --> 00:44:01,000
essentially, like Virginia
Tech's the top 10 program,

720
00:44:01,500 --> 00:44:03,800
you've got multiple top five
programs there.

721
00:44:04,100 --> 00:44:10,300
Yeah, and then, I think West
Coast, What's the second?

722
00:44:10,300 --> 00:44:12,200
What's it?
What's the next big?

723
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,100
Secondary sport in the ACC
behind football and baseball?

724
00:44:15,100 --> 00:44:17,900
No disrespect to wrestling is
baseball.

725
00:44:18,500 --> 00:44:21,300
Yep.
In the Pac-12 has always had

726
00:44:21,300 --> 00:44:22,300
them.
Good baseball.

727
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:30,700
Absolutely absolutely.
Now, as we look at it, the way

728
00:44:30,700 --> 00:44:32,300
they are and this is where you
sign to get the.

729
00:44:32,300 --> 00:44:36,500
Well, this is just a bunch of
punk bullcrap, you know, the

730
00:44:36,500 --> 00:44:38,300
schedule.
A this is where the fluff

731
00:44:38,300 --> 00:44:40,100
begins.
Let me do this.

732
00:44:40,300 --> 00:44:43,300
Let's turn it backwards.
The schedule lines will begin as

733
00:44:43,300 --> 00:44:48,500
soon as practical while current
obligations are being upheld.

734
00:44:48,500 --> 00:44:51,300
Okay.
That's basically saying it's TV

735
00:44:51,300 --> 00:44:58,700
contracts and it's probably
really It's more probably the

736
00:44:58,700 --> 00:45:02,400
Pac-12 when they get that
opportunity it's going to be

737
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:06,700
what 2023 is when there's ends.
That's when the that's when

738
00:45:06,700 --> 00:45:10,100
you're going to see it.
Start leveraging when you know,

739
00:45:10,900 --> 00:45:12,800
they say, hey how about this
year?

740
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:17,700
How about USC?
Give me a good Big Ten team, run

741
00:45:17,900 --> 00:45:22,600
USC plays.
State by the state in a

742
00:45:22,607 --> 00:45:26,700
horseshoe for in the Coliseum.
All right Washington really good

743
00:45:26,700 --> 00:45:29,900
up in the upper Northwest hey we
want to play FSU.

744
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:33,900
That's when you're going to
start seeing them, leverage to

745
00:45:33,900 --> 00:45:40,200
say, we are getting in place.
Name brand teams to bring on to

746
00:45:40,700 --> 00:45:44,200
Fox Sports that we're not seeing
because of their current

747
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,800
contract with ESPN.
I'll tell you what's funny

748
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,300
though and I know in this is
just unfortunate timing because

749
00:45:49,300 --> 00:45:52,500
I'm sure these discussions have
been in works way before the

750
00:45:52,500 --> 00:45:53,700
alliance.
Yeah.

751
00:45:53,700 --> 00:45:58,100
But today USC announce that at
Lear at LSU their schedule we're

752
00:45:58,100 --> 00:46:03,100
going to 2024.
Yeah that's so again it's

753
00:46:03,100 --> 00:46:05,600
absolutely those discussions
have been going on way before

754
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,500
the alliance stuff started.
It, the timing could not have

755
00:46:08,500 --> 00:46:12,900
been a worse for saying, hey,
we've got a handshake agreement

756
00:46:12,900 --> 00:46:15,600
here that, you know, we're in
this together.

757
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,700
And then the next thing, you
know, you get a scheduled

758
00:46:18,700 --> 00:46:22,500
opponent with an SEC team.
So let's just say, when all this

759
00:46:22,500 --> 00:46:26,900
comes from Russian in 2024, that
USC will be asking to play

760
00:46:26,900 --> 00:46:29,600
either Wake Forest for what
thirsty.

761
00:46:32,300 --> 00:46:33,100
No.
No, we good.

762
00:46:33,100 --> 00:46:34,600
We won't.
We won't want to them.

763
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:35,900
We don't need your fucking
fucked.

764
00:46:35,900 --> 00:46:41,400
Our PR, exactly giving you the
donut the exact, let me ask this

765
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,700
Bond.
So big 10 PAC, 12 said they were

766
00:46:43,700 --> 00:46:46,900
very you know open to the idea
of a playoff expansion.

767
00:46:47,300 --> 00:46:51,000
Jim Phillips new ACC
commissioner said well you know

768
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,300
we're really landed on the final
decision yet.

769
00:46:53,500 --> 00:46:56,600
You think that's him being
legitimate or do you think

770
00:46:56,600 --> 00:47:00,500
that's more leverage play to say
if one of us isn't happy?

771
00:47:00,500 --> 00:47:04,700
We're going to all reconsider I
think he's hedging.

772
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,700
I mean I think at this point
being non-committal gives him

773
00:47:09,700 --> 00:47:13,800
the opportunity to kind of go
where the wind is taking the

774
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,400
situation.
Yeah I don't necessarily think

775
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:21,100
that's A bad decision, but at
the same time, I would have

776
00:47:21,100 --> 00:47:24,000
wanted.
I would have wanted more

777
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,600
definitive Direction.
I'd rather I'd like the ACC to

778
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,900
take a little bit more of a
leadership role in this thing

779
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:36,700
and I feel like hunting on that
kind of takes away some of their

780
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:40,300
their power later on to to be a
strong player in whatever the

781
00:47:40,300 --> 00:47:42,500
final decision is, what do you
think?

782
00:47:42,500 --> 00:47:47,300
It's because right now they're
saying what the top six A

783
00:47:47,300 --> 00:47:50,000
Champions.
Yeah, that was the Assumption

784
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,300
there was going to be a power 5,
you think that's maybe that's

785
00:47:52,300 --> 00:47:56,200
the reason they're holding to
say if the Big 12 can get their

786
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,700
bleep together and get some
other current.

787
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:04,900
I think the concern is that if
you only have four major

788
00:48:04,900 --> 00:48:08,200
conferences, you don't do 60
that that that that's going to

789
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:12,700
open up more opportunities for
sec to take more of those at

790
00:48:12,700 --> 00:48:18,500
large spaces in the playoff.
Which Removes some of the power

791
00:48:18,500 --> 00:48:23,200
that the Big Ten, the ACC in the
Pac-12 have in terms of getting

792
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,600
revenue from the college
football playoff, I'll tell you

793
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:29,100
what's going to happen.
Michael Yost is going to stumble

794
00:48:29,100 --> 00:48:32,400
onto his conviction of a, be
incorrect because the acc's and

795
00:48:32,408 --> 00:48:34,100
you're like for Conference
champions.

796
00:48:34,100 --> 00:48:39,500
And for our, you're still going
to end up with three of those

797
00:48:39,500 --> 00:48:43,800
eight being SEC every year.
I don't know because I think at

798
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:45,900
that point I think there's going
to be a lot of different

799
00:48:45,900 --> 00:48:48,300
criteria and that's what we
hope.

800
00:48:48,300 --> 00:48:53,400
So, I hope that there's not just
I mean we're still early in

801
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,800
this, I know I put my my flag in
the ground for 12 but I put my

802
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:58,500
flag in the ground for 12
before.

803
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,800
There was any talk of Texas and
Oklahoma leaving the Big 12 for

804
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:06,200
the SEC and other realignment
things.

805
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,600
And this definitely makes me
want to re-evaluate that a

806
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:13,300
little bit.
I still think 12 overall is good

807
00:49:13,300 --> 00:49:16,500
for the overall health of
college football, but with fewer

808
00:49:16,500 --> 00:49:20,300
power 5, Potentially fewer power
five conferences.

809
00:49:20,300 --> 00:49:25,200
It definitely kind of changes
that outset because you are

810
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,700
going to have more power 5 at
largest by default.

811
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:33,600
Absolutely.
Alright, next piece with the no

812
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,100
contract piece when they said
that, what did you think?

813
00:49:39,100 --> 00:49:42,400
I'll be out.
I Love handshake agreements as

814
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:46,400
much as the next person but I
guess getting it in writing.

815
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:49,200
Is it possible?
At this time?

816
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,800
Just because there's a lot of
moving pieces, and it's better

817
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:56,900
to Better to have something
verbal, until we know a little

818
00:49:56,900 --> 00:50:01,000
bit more than we know right now.
Our.

819
00:50:01,500 --> 00:50:04,600
That's just my take.
Did you read hokey Andrews?

820
00:50:05,100 --> 00:50:06,400
Tweet.
I did.

821
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,400
And that that was a good point
as well because he was talking

822
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,600
about Market collusion and
price-fixing.

823
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:17,800
If you've got any Apple
conferences, essentially ganging

824
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:21,700
up on another conference in
terms of wedging them out from a

825
00:50:21,700 --> 00:50:25,300
financial perspective or nice,
making a power play against them

826
00:50:25,500 --> 00:50:28,300
from a financial perspective.
And I think that's probably the

827
00:50:28,300 --> 00:50:30,300
reason why again you got three
guys.

828
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,100
Who are attorneys that are doing
this.

829
00:50:33,700 --> 00:50:36,700
And I'm sure their first thought
was, well, hey, we can do an

830
00:50:36,700 --> 00:50:39,500
agreement contract or somebody
probably said, yeah.

831
00:50:39,500 --> 00:50:42,400
And if the SEC filed an
antitrust lawsuit against his

832
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,300
guess, what they're going to
win?

833
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,700
So they're going to break this
up before it even started or

834
00:50:47,700 --> 00:50:49,800
it's not going to be
economically feasible for us to

835
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:53,500
try to win it and we'll use
figure out exactly what will

836
00:50:53,508 --> 00:50:54,800
essentially be back where we
are.

837
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:58,100
Anyway, exactly.
So I think that was maybe I

838
00:50:58,100 --> 00:51:00,200
think it's more, it doesn't look
good.

839
00:51:00,300 --> 00:51:03,000
I think if you start thinking
about it, it's like that makes

840
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,000
sense right now is they're on
the same page.

841
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:11,000
It's more of the voting thing.
Like, you know, how many times

842
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,400
do you have things you vote on
whether it be social, you know,

843
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:18,800
you know, social organizations
or other things?

844
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:22,000
That's go back to thinking SGA
and stuff like that, or even

845
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:26,700
maybe neighborhood Council where
it's, like, you're voting this

846
00:51:26,700 --> 00:51:29,000
way, right?
We're all going to vote this way

847
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:30,200
because we don't want that to
happen.

848
00:51:30,300 --> 00:51:31,900
Happen.
And they're going to try to make

849
00:51:31,900 --> 00:51:34,000
that happen.
It would it all six of us vote

850
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:35,200
against it.
They can't.

851
00:51:36,900 --> 00:51:39,300
And if it's a handshake
agreement, they can't sue you

852
00:51:39,300 --> 00:51:40,800
for anything.
All right?

853
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,000
Yeah.
It's the old, I mean, it's the

854
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:47,400
old backdoor Arrangement like
you, you know, it's not, it's

855
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,700
not anything formal but it's so
it's on the, it's so close to

856
00:51:50,700 --> 00:51:55,700
being formal that by de facto.
It is the same outcomes come

857
00:51:55,700 --> 00:51:59,800
into place, and hopefully
they'll able to keep that

858
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,000
together.
And like I said, I would, I

859
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:06,000
would want the ACC to take a
little bit more of a leadership

860
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:10,400
role on this.
Especially in terms of what the

861
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,400
playoff is going to look like.
Because I feel like that's going

862
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:16,500
to be the biggest piece of the
financial puzzle long-term

863
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,600
become.
So hopefully hopefully there's a

864
00:52:19,607 --> 00:52:21,000
little bit more information
about that.

865
00:52:21,300 --> 00:52:24,100
Yeah.
And again the playoff piece also

866
00:52:24,100 --> 00:52:27,500
two of these network, two of
these conferences have their

867
00:52:27,500 --> 00:52:34,700
primary ganger on Fox Fox is not
in it right now.

868
00:52:34,900 --> 00:52:38,400
So you know what?
I think any coffee of expansion

869
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,400
while in the next few years is
not.

870
00:52:40,500 --> 00:52:41,700
They're going to vote it down,
right?

871
00:52:41,700 --> 00:52:43,400
No.
Because I think what they want

872
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,300
to do is, let it get out there
and get fitted by.

873
00:52:46,300 --> 00:52:48,600
I think boxes telling the Pac-12
on that.

874
00:52:49,700 --> 00:52:52,100
It's probably right, just vote.
No just vote.

875
00:52:52,100 --> 00:52:55,300
No, because when he gets here
we're going to go after it hard.

876
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:59,800
And maybe hopefully what we can
get is more of a split playoff

877
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:06,200
where we see multiple TV
entities handle it versus just

878
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:10,200
ESPN.
And all right, so we kind of

879
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:13,300
mentioned it already.
The Big 12, they all mentioned

880
00:53:13,300 --> 00:53:16,800
the importance of keeping that
conference alive to your point,

881
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:21,300
Braun Playoff right?
If you can have them be viable,

882
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:25,300
you have a fifth playoff team.
Yeah.

883
00:53:25,300 --> 00:53:28,200
And they're going to, they're
gonna have to do some work to

884
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:33,900
remain viable.
They cannot hold Pat and and

885
00:53:33,900 --> 00:53:37,600
hope for survival.
You've lost your two, biggest

886
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,900
Revenue dogs in your conference,
true.

887
00:53:42,700 --> 00:53:46,100
And that's it.
We're going to be and it's going

888
00:53:46,100 --> 00:53:53,000
to be interesting weather.
Whether Texas and Oklahoma

889
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:59,000
decide to pay the buyout to
start this thing early, whether

890
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:04,500
they decide to ride it out and
hope that the Big 12 olds, so,

891
00:54:04,500 --> 00:54:07,600
they can depart early without
having to pay the buyout.

892
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:13,500
Or if the Big 12 is able to make
some moves with some of these

893
00:54:13,500 --> 00:54:19,000
other G5 conferences,
potentially or maybe even power

894
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:23,000
five conference has to get Get a
team or two to come over to

895
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:26,500
their side of the, the field
there because they're going to

896
00:54:26,508 --> 00:54:29,500
need something to remain viable.
They keep that.

897
00:54:29,500 --> 00:54:32,100
I definitely don't think they
can just hold their status quo

898
00:54:32,100 --> 00:54:35,700
right now for the next three to
five years and hope to remain

899
00:54:35,700 --> 00:54:38,600
viable.
Now, the can't hold status quo

900
00:54:40,300 --> 00:54:44,700
but if Texas are Oklahomans used
to pay that buyout, it still

901
00:54:44,700 --> 00:54:49,000
will take a couple of years of
the SEC money to recoup it.

902
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,700
Sure, but long game, they can
afford it, it's just the

903
00:54:53,700 --> 00:54:55,100
question.
Do they want to take their

904
00:54:55,100 --> 00:54:58,300
short-term loss?
Especially coming off of covid?

905
00:54:58,300 --> 00:55:02,800
In order to achieve that will?
Also, let's just say it.

906
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:06,400
You're also going into, I'm not
going to hesitate on.

907
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:07,900
You're going into the strongest
conference.

908
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:09,500
What if you go in there and
become a 6?

909
00:55:09,500 --> 00:55:14,800
And 16, your Brand's done your
brand and your brand suffers,

910
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:19,800
but Texas has still been the
number one athletic department.

911
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:24,800
In terms of Revenue, while being
a fucking middling ass program

912
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:26,900
for the last decade middling
ass.

913
00:55:26,900 --> 00:55:28,400
Did you think you're going to
hear that?

914
00:55:29,900 --> 00:55:31,600
All right.
Well you know what, this is

915
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:35,800
probably I think what this is my
opinion, how the big 12 can

916
00:55:35,900 --> 00:55:37,700
somehow make it.
They are going to be looked at

917
00:55:37,700 --> 00:55:45,500
as the ugly stepsister of the
group but you go you look at

918
00:55:45,500 --> 00:55:47,700
Central Florida.
You look at Cincinnati.

919
00:55:47,700 --> 00:55:50,600
Look at Memphis.
Look at BYU and you look at

920
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:54,900
Boise and you just invite them
and just say whatever happens is

921
00:55:54,900 --> 00:55:58,100
what happens and we're going to
figure it out from here because

922
00:55:58,100 --> 00:56:02,300
at least you have with those
five schools they have brains,

923
00:56:03,100 --> 00:56:06,800
they are known as they are known
to average college football

924
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:10,900
fans.
BYU know, we know has a very

925
00:56:10,900 --> 00:56:13,300
passionate base.
As there's Boise, the other ones

926
00:56:13,300 --> 00:56:16,300
are building.
You just, you just almost a

927
00:56:16,300 --> 00:56:18,600
screw it.
This is literally a Hail Mary.

928
00:56:20,300 --> 00:56:22,300
Even if we don't score the
touchdown and everything

929
00:56:22,300 --> 00:56:26,300
happens, perfect, we're going to
probably get pass interference.

930
00:56:26,700 --> 00:56:29,500
You're going to have the ball
down at the one where we're not

931
00:56:29,500 --> 00:56:32,500
going to be what we were, but
we're not going to become a

932
00:56:32,500 --> 00:56:36,600
swak.
That for all y'all, Young Folks,

933
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:38,900
go review swaggin.
What the fuck happened?

934
00:56:38,900 --> 00:56:42,700
30 years ago.
Yep, history lesson it's

935
00:56:42,700 --> 00:56:46,000
happened before.
So when we look at the big 12

936
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:50,800
rbr, they essentially right now
kind of what the Big East was

937
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:56,000
after in the early 2000s after
the departure of Virginia Tech

938
00:56:56,100 --> 00:56:58,500
and Miami.
That's exactly what they were

939
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:03,700
and they chose to stand Pat.
Right?

940
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:06,600
They didn't try to add teams.
They didn't try to build up.

941
00:57:06,700 --> 00:57:11,100
We can make it like this and
they freaking fell because the

942
00:57:11,100 --> 00:57:15,100
teams that had viable decent
football program or viable

943
00:57:15,100 --> 00:57:19,700
markets just piece like nope
because this is not going to

944
00:57:19,700 --> 00:57:24,300
work.
And in this case, that's why I

945
00:57:24,308 --> 00:57:26,600
think you do that.
That's why you think you just

946
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:29,500
throw it to the wall and just
say this is what we're going to

947
00:57:29,500 --> 00:57:32,500
do and have a dollars and cents
perspective.

948
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,600
This is definitely a bigger blow
to the Big 12 than what that was

949
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:41,400
to the Big East much bigger much
bigger because I think it's the

950
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:44,900
time frame of where we are.
In the early 2000s the contracts

951
00:57:44,900 --> 00:57:47,100
went.
They weren't what they were.

952
00:57:47,300 --> 00:57:49,700
Yep.
All right let's hit the last

953
00:57:49,700 --> 00:57:53,600
couple topics here.
They basically said we're not

954
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:56,100
going to handcuff any other out
of conference game so they

955
00:57:56,100 --> 00:57:58,700
basically are keeping all your
rivalries alive.

956
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:02,000
You know, Georgia, Georgia Tech,
South Carolina.

957
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,900
That's not Shocking because I
don't think they're trying to

958
00:58:04,900 --> 00:58:06,900
play bully ball.
I just think they're trying to

959
00:58:06,900 --> 00:58:09,700
hold leverage and say you're not
going to run the show.

960
00:58:10,300 --> 00:58:12,000
They're trying to hold leverage
and then they're trying to

961
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:16,100
create some unique matchups
within this to gain that

962
00:58:16,100 --> 00:58:18,600
leverage when it comes to
college football playoff stuff.

963
00:58:18,900 --> 00:58:21,800
Yeah.
So we'll still have those maybe

964
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:25,300
even create some new ones.
Now the last piece we're going

965
00:58:25,300 --> 00:58:29,600
to hit here and this was near
the end of it was Pat Club big

966
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,600
tender at nine games acc's a
date.

967
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:36,400
The way that conversation was
flowing by, I don't know if you

968
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:41,300
were watching it live.
I truly think and this is why I

969
00:58:41,300 --> 00:58:44,900
think you're going to have
multiple crossovers year between

970
00:58:44,900 --> 00:58:48,400
these two conquer.
These three conferences is

971
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:53,700
they're going to have a
conference games.

972
00:58:54,300 --> 00:58:56,300
We're not going to go up.
We're going to go down because

973
00:58:56,300 --> 00:58:59,100
what we're going to do, we're
going to, we're going to keep

974
00:58:59,100 --> 00:59:03,500
going to squeeze the conferences
in so we can get these two

975
00:59:03,500 --> 00:59:07,600
games, probably one more P5 game
and then likely a G5 game.

976
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,400
Yep.
And I think that's a good move

977
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,700
because it gives you the
opportunity to work those

978
00:59:12,700 --> 00:59:15,600
schedules.
Like we were talking about, get

979
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:17,200
the interesting crossover
matchups.

980
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:21,400
Get some intriguing college
football playoff ramifications.

981
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:24,200
Games with non-traditional
opponents.

982
00:59:25,100 --> 00:59:27,200
So I think that's going to be
good across the board.

983
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:31,100
And then in terms of the
conference 8, gains more or less

984
00:59:31,100 --> 00:59:35,200
is enough, especially with
conferences as large as 14.

985
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:39,300
Yeah, a vs9, does it really
change a whole lot?

986
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:43,300
Not a lot.
What it helps you do though, is

987
00:59:43,900 --> 00:59:47,000
it's going to give you more
markets and people are asking

988
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:50,200
why do you do this?
If you go out west and you get

989
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:54,100
four more larger TV, Markets.
Again, you're expanding your

990
00:59:54,100 --> 00:59:56,300
Aces and some people say well
that's stupid.

991
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:59,700
Why would Virginia Tech want to
try to expand into California?

992
01:00:01,300 --> 01:00:03,600
Because there's a lot of
football players in California.

993
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:07,800
It makes sense to the West Coast
teams.

994
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:09,400
Let's get on the East Coast for
the East Coast.

995
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:12,700
Let's get on the West Coast.
Simply that's the revenue in

996
01:00:12,700 --> 01:00:16,200
general from the TV money.
I mean they're more eyes on it

997
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:19,500
on the screen drives that money
up, man.

998
01:00:19,500 --> 01:00:21,100
That's that's what it's all
about.

999
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,300
Dance.
Like more games, they get more

1000
01:00:23,300 --> 01:00:25,600
eyes on them.
Then that's a good thing.

1001
01:00:26,300 --> 01:00:30,300
There's nothing more intriguing
than competitive teams.

1002
01:00:30,300 --> 01:00:32,800
Playing non-traditional
opponents in games that fucking

1003
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:34,700
matter.
Bingo buddy.

1004
01:00:35,100 --> 01:00:38,100
All right guys.
So before we get further into

1005
01:00:38,100 --> 01:00:42,100
the main topic tonight of us,
predicting the hole, Season

1006
01:00:42,100 --> 01:00:44,100
record.
We are going to take a quick

1007
01:00:44,100 --> 01:00:46,500
pause for a message from our
digital partner.

1008
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:51,200
All right, buddy, we are back
here after our brief break there

1009
01:00:51,900 --> 01:00:55,100
and we're going to get right
into the main topic.

1010
01:00:55,100 --> 01:00:57,900
So we're talking about our
prediction for the Hokies season

1011
01:00:57,900 --> 01:01:02,700
in 2021.
And before we really get into

1012
01:01:03,100 --> 01:01:07,900
what we think on the gains that
are that matter, we're going to

1013
01:01:07,900 --> 01:01:14,300
go ahead and put six games in
the W column, right?

1014
01:01:14,300 --> 01:01:17,600
Out the gate.
We feel like on paper, The Hokey

1015
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:20,700
should win these games.
Barring catastrophic injuries.

1016
01:01:20,900 --> 01:01:25,600
That happened during the season,
so that is Middle Tennessee,

1017
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:28,600
State.
University of Richmond,

1018
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:32,600
Syracuse.
Georgia, Tech Duke and UVA.

1019
01:01:34,500 --> 01:01:37,000
Based on what we think about
this team.

1020
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:40,100
We feel like Virginia Tech
should handle their business

1021
01:01:40,100 --> 01:01:45,500
against these teams.
Yes, we came to a consensus last

1022
01:01:45,500 --> 01:01:50,700
week after talking with Brett
getting deeper into pick six,

1023
01:01:50,700 --> 01:01:54,600
previews article reading, some
other Publications, kind of

1024
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:57,600
talking seeing in general.
We should win all six of these

1025
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:03,100
games. if we lose one or
potentially multiple of these

1026
01:02:03,100 --> 01:02:08,800
games, heads should roll, In
certain people should not be in

1027
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:12,900
positions.
Come roughly, December 8th.

1028
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:14,800
Thing is the timeframe this
year.

1029
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:17,600
On paper, we match up
significantly.

1030
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:20,200
With all these teams, these
teams are all struggling.

1031
01:02:20,500 --> 01:02:22,600
I know everybody keeps telling
me, Middle, Tennessee, State,

1032
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:25,100
and Florida State players.
There's a reason Florida State

1033
01:02:25,100 --> 01:02:28,300
players left Florida.
State in, did not land at any

1034
01:02:28,300 --> 01:02:29,900
other school, but Middle
Tennessee.

1035
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:32,700
I'm sorry.
You can say they're athletic,

1036
01:02:32,700 --> 01:02:35,500
they're great.
If they were that great, they

1037
01:02:35,500 --> 01:02:36,800
would have found their way onto
a piece.

1038
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:38,400
Boxing.
Do you agree with that run?

1039
01:02:39,100 --> 01:02:44,500
That's a fair assessment.
I mean I think they could still

1040
01:02:44,500 --> 01:02:48,100
be what I would consider
starting caliber players on

1041
01:02:48,100 --> 01:02:50,900
power 5 schools.
I don't think their game

1042
01:02:50,900 --> 01:02:54,700
changers and I think that's the
difference there, you know,

1043
01:02:54,700 --> 01:02:58,400
we're not talking about someone
that's going to go out there,

1044
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:03,400
and if they were on a power 5
team, they'd be a potential

1045
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:06,400
all-conference player.
These are guys that if they were

1046
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:10,600
on a power five Squad, that
probably maybe start, maybe a

1047
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:13,200
rotational player.
They're trying to go and be a

1048
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:16,100
star for a Middle, Tennessee
State.

1049
01:03:16,100 --> 01:03:20,200
So that's my assessment.
I think you're pretty much spot

1050
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:25,500
on there.
And, you know, we've got several

1051
01:03:25,500 --> 01:03:29,000
other conference teams there
that are just, you know, we

1052
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:33,900
talked about it last week,
Syracuse is flailing, Duke is

1053
01:03:33,900 --> 01:03:38,300
awful.
Georgia Tech is unpredictable

1054
01:03:38,300 --> 01:03:43,200
and UVA, doesn't have a
secondary, and I'm not sure if

1055
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:46,300
they've got enough defense
elsewhere to compensate for it.

1056
01:03:46,700 --> 01:03:49,100
There you go, so there's our
assessment.

1057
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:50,800
So, the go ahead, write that
down.

1058
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:54,300
Everybody.
Currently we are at six and up.

1059
01:03:56,100 --> 01:04:00,900
Let's jump buddy, first game of
the season, North Carolina.

1060
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:04,900
I'll let you lead on this one.
All you're going to Let Me Lie,

1061
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:07,900
buddy.
Yeah, so we're going to come

1062
01:04:07,900 --> 01:04:10,400
into Lane Stadium next Friday
night, 6 p.m.

1063
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:15,200
ESPN, five and a half Point
favorites on the road in the

1064
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:19,300
terror Dome and I'm sitting here
and they're ranked and it got

1065
01:04:19,300 --> 01:04:22,000
Sam.
How man he's gonna be a number

1066
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:24,200
one particular texture.
He is all number one, pick,

1067
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:27,900
great player.
I decided to do some math.

1068
01:04:28,700 --> 01:04:31,000
Okay, in this is what I found
out.

1069
01:04:31,300 --> 01:04:36,300
So, Michael Carter.
Running back.

1070
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:37,600
Gone.
Correct.

1071
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:39,400
Yep.
Devante Williams running back

1072
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:40,300
gone.
Correct.

1073
01:04:40,500 --> 01:04:43,400
Yep.
Tommy Brown running back going.

1074
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:44,600
Correct?
Yep.

1075
01:04:44,900 --> 01:04:46,200
City wide receiver wide
receiver.

1076
01:04:47,100 --> 01:04:49,300
Dad's new.
Some wide receiver going.

1077
01:04:49,300 --> 01:04:50,900
Correct.
Correct.

1078
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:55,900
Are they sitting in the transfer
portal or on another team for a

1079
01:04:55,900 --> 01:04:57,000
grad?
Transfer year?

1080
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:02,700
No, they are all in NFL Training
Camps.

1081
01:05:02,700 --> 01:05:07,000
All making rosters.
By the way, Brian Michael Court

1082
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:08,600
in the New York Jets is running
back.

1083
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:11,900
Late rounds next.
Uh next Tuesday night, ha ha ha.

1084
01:05:13,100 --> 01:05:15,800
So we're drafting next Tuesday.
Guess yeah.

1085
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:19,900
We've got a fan together.
All those guys are gone in their

1086
01:05:19,900 --> 01:05:25,400
careers, which primarily is the
last two seasons, they made up

1087
01:05:26,100 --> 01:05:31,400
10,000 and 42 yards from
scrimmage and eighty three

1088
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:34,200
touchdowns.
All of that is gone.

1089
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:37,300
I think Bo Corrales is a good
receiver.

1090
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:42,900
I don't think boat Corrales can
make up that much production

1091
01:05:43,500 --> 01:05:52,800
along with guys who have really
never played. and lastly, last

1092
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:55,300
week was mentioned that they're
returning all five of their

1093
01:05:55,300 --> 01:06:00,300
starters on the offensive line.
Well, that's good.

1094
01:06:01,100 --> 01:06:07,000
But when an offensive line gives
up sacks, her attempt 104 out,

1095
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:12,000
120 teams, that ain't great Bob.
And without those two Dynamic

1096
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:17,200
running backs to run that RPO
offense I think the Hokies are

1097
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:18,900
going to shock the world next
Friday.

1098
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:20,800
We'll get into a deeper next
week.

1099
01:06:22,100 --> 01:06:25,400
Give me a w to lead off the
season run so I am it.

1100
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:30,700
Stepping it up.
Curtis with the Hokie upset to

1101
01:06:30,700 --> 01:06:35,200
lead things off there.
Where you at not so fast.

1102
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:38,200
My friend.
Oh man, well, folks.

1103
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:43,900
Go ahead.
Put bribes at 6 and 10 I think I

1104
01:06:43,900 --> 01:06:47,400
think this is going to be a very
close game, but I think the

1105
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:52,900
experience of Sam Howell and the
Improvement of that defense and

1106
01:06:52,900 --> 01:06:58,200
probably our offense while not
anemic or anything by that

1107
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:00,100
nature.
Taking probably a small step

1108
01:07:00,100 --> 01:07:02,200
back especially in the running
game.

1109
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:05,600
I think we're going to have,
we're not going to have the

1110
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:07,900
ability to put up quite as many
points as we were able to

1111
01:07:07,900 --> 01:07:09,700
especially in the second half
last year.

1112
01:07:10,700 --> 01:07:14,200
And I think just the experience
of how that offensive line and

1113
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:16,600
that improved defense is going
to be enough to get them over

1114
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:19,700
the hump.
So I predict a somewhat high

1115
01:07:19,700 --> 01:07:26,000
scoring game kind of like a 3833
3835 somewhere in that that

1116
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:28,100
range but I think UNC pulls the
W.

1117
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:31,700
All right, so Brian has just
taken the loss at UNC.

1118
01:07:31,700 --> 01:07:35,000
I have a stake in the w.
We will get deeper into this

1119
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:37,200
game next week, folks, who join
us back here.

1120
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:40,300
Same time, and watch it.
All right, let's move on.

1121
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:43,400
On we've already checked at
Middle Tennessee State off.

1122
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:46,300
Now, we're going to go to West
Virginia, Braun, what do you

1123
01:07:46,300 --> 01:07:50,300
think happens with the black
diamond trophy about a month

1124
01:07:50,300 --> 01:07:55,400
from now?
Well, buddy, we are keeping the

1125
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:58,600
Black Diamond trophy.
Go on.

1126
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:01,200
I think on paper are a better
team.

1127
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:03,200
I think we're going to be able
to score enough points against

1128
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:06,400
this team even with some step
back in our offense.

1129
01:08:06,900 --> 01:08:10,500
And I think our improved defense
is going to do just enough in

1130
01:08:10,500 --> 01:08:13,900
that raucous atmosphere to pull
out a lake w.

1131
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:19,200
All right.
I'm going to dump now.

1132
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:27,100
I have seven and one I think we
lose this game because I think

1133
01:08:27,100 --> 01:08:30,500
the home field advantage is
going to be massive for them

1134
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:33,600
even at a noon kick, which it's
going to be.

1135
01:08:34,100 --> 01:08:37,100
I think that is going to be one
of the biggest things is, we

1136
01:08:37,100 --> 01:08:41,700
know, from our days of being
fans of long time ago.

1137
01:08:41,700 --> 01:08:45,000
When we played every year, that
is not a fun place to play, they

1138
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:48,200
are a bunch of assholes.
Throw shit.

1139
01:08:48,700 --> 01:08:51,300
They do a lot of dirty shit.
I think they're really burning

1140
01:08:51,300 --> 01:08:55,600
couches, burning couches, but I
think they are yearning to get

1141
01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:59,399
that trophy back.
They haven't had it in 17 years.

1142
01:08:59,899 --> 01:09:04,500
Now besides that couple other
reasons, they lost three really

1143
01:09:04,500 --> 01:09:08,899
key defenders in Tyreke Smith
Draiman and Darius Stills

1144
01:09:08,899 --> 01:09:11,899
obviously Darius still, I think
everybody knows Derek Stills.

1145
01:09:11,899 --> 01:09:14,100
Were pretty high in the draft
was really looked at Harlan

1146
01:09:14,100 --> 01:09:16,899
defensive line, but they still
turn a turn.

1147
01:09:16,899 --> 01:09:20,300
Turn a Ton of production on the
defensive side of the ball.

1148
01:09:21,500 --> 01:09:24,300
So I think that is going to be
one thing with the raucous

1149
01:09:24,300 --> 01:09:26,800
crowd.
Again, we're not a terrible

1150
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:29,899
offense, but we're not good
enough to probably overcome both

1151
01:09:29,899 --> 01:09:33,899
of those things.
Now, one thing that does give me

1152
01:09:33,899 --> 01:09:37,700
pause Is your quarterback
Garrett Dodge.

1153
01:09:38,700 --> 01:09:41,000
He is a non-jew threat
quarterback so you don't have to

1154
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:47,600
worry about his legs and he's
not a good deep passer of the

1155
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:52,600
ball.
So it's one of those things

1156
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:57,500
where even though I see us
losing, I think a tight game.

1157
01:09:57,900 --> 01:09:59,100
I think a tight game.
Right.

1158
01:09:59,100 --> 01:10:02,400
Right now, as we sit, I mean,
some you super tight talk to me

1159
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:07,700
three weeks from now, once we
beat Carolina and maybe Middle,

1160
01:10:07,700 --> 01:10:09,800
Tennessee, State.
And I'm six beers deep on a

1161
01:10:09,808 --> 01:10:12,100
Wednesday night, maybe I changed
my mind.

1162
01:10:12,300 --> 01:10:15,100
But right now, I just don't
think it's going to be enough.

1163
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:18,200
We're probably going to lose
like a 35-point game there at

1164
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:21,300
the moment.
Okay Brian.

1165
01:10:22,300 --> 01:10:26,200
Let's go to Notre Dame.
You will meet a go.

1166
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:29,300
You want to go?
I'll let you leave this one,

1167
01:10:29,300 --> 01:10:31,000
buddy.
You're going to let me leave

1168
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:33,200
this one, maybe this is the
trend here.

1169
01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:41,500
I absolutely toggled with this
one back and forth over and over

1170
01:10:41,700 --> 01:10:44,100
and over.
And then when I talked with

1171
01:10:44,100 --> 01:10:48,500
bread and we had our
conversation with Brett and as

1172
01:10:48,500 --> 01:10:52,600
he discussed, Jack Conte and
book, I think Ian book is an

1173
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:54,900
exceptional, Collegiate
quarterback has potential to be

1174
01:10:54,900 --> 01:10:58,500
an NFL quarterback.
Be a little bit bigger than arm.

1175
01:10:58,500 --> 01:11:00,700
I think you would have been
probably the first two round

1176
01:11:00,700 --> 01:11:07,500
pick with the big piece.
That Brent discussing it just

1177
01:11:07,500 --> 01:11:10,100
kept grinding, that me, one of
the guys is on the 49ers and

1178
01:11:10,100 --> 01:11:13,700
Arron Banks, one of the guards,
they lost four offensive line

1179
01:11:13,700 --> 01:11:17,800
starters.
Three of those guys went in the

1180
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:20,700
first three rounds of the draft.
If you're going in the first

1181
01:11:20,700 --> 01:11:23,100
three rounds of the draft, you
are either going to be an

1182
01:11:23,100 --> 01:11:26,000
immediate starter and or an
immediate swing player

1183
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:29,000
immediately in the NFL.
Yep.

1184
01:11:30,100 --> 01:11:34,300
And you know the total return of
production you know, isn't

1185
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:41,000
terrible on the offense.
It's not that bad overall but

1186
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:44,600
when you lose your quarterback
the core of your offensive line

1187
01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:48,500
and you know the Fence, you
know, their return, a lot of

1188
01:11:48,500 --> 01:11:51,000
good starters to on the
defensive line 2 and line backer

1189
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:52,500
room.
One in the back end.

1190
01:11:53,700 --> 01:11:57,000
They're under Freeman now.
So it's, you know, we're going

1191
01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:59,400
to have about a month paper on
Freeman before we go into that

1192
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:01,100
game.
You know, like to learn

1193
01:12:01,100 --> 01:12:04,300
multiple, you know, he likes to
do things different.

1194
01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:11,100
But I think because of the way
our defensive line Looks in the

1195
01:12:11,100 --> 01:12:15,400
first date.
I think this is going to be a

1196
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:16,400
rehash.
You ready?

1197
01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:20,500
For the game Run.
She's going to rehash of 2019.

1198
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:25,400
But there's going to be.
If you scramble from Braxton

1199
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:29,200
Burmeister late, I think we look
at that game as a one-possession

1200
01:12:29,500 --> 01:12:33,800
a one field goal game but I
think when they gets his biggest

1201
01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:37,700
win in the arrow.
So right there, I'm at 18 1.

1202
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:43,700
What about you?
I got this one as a loss, as

1203
01:12:43,700 --> 01:12:48,600
well, man.
Yeah, and it really comes down

1204
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:52,100
to a couple factors, it's going
to be Karen Williams, Chris

1205
01:12:52,100 --> 01:12:55,800
Tyree, and a defense that
returns a lot of production.

1206
01:12:57,100 --> 01:13:01,800
I think Marcus Freeman is going
to potentially get even a little

1207
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:05,400
bit more out of those ranked
with running the multiple

1208
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:07,900
because you're going to see a
little bit of a different look

1209
01:13:08,100 --> 01:13:10,200
and offenses, will be able to
get comfortable and make any

1210
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:12,300
keys.
And I think there's with the

1211
01:13:12,300 --> 01:13:15,500
returning production, you're not
going to see a drop-off in the

1212
01:13:15,500 --> 01:13:18,500
top end level of play for them
while.

1213
01:13:18,500 --> 01:13:20,800
I think that's going to be a big
impact on their all their

1214
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:26,200
offense losing you know for
multi-year starters three of

1215
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:29,900
which were draft picks to in the
second round.

1216
01:13:29,900 --> 01:13:35,200
One of the third I just I'm not
sure if that alone is going to

1217
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:38,300
be enough for us to get over the
hump against them, at that point

1218
01:13:38,300 --> 01:13:40,700
of the Season.
All right, well, let me ask

1219
01:13:40,700 --> 01:13:42,700
this.
Before we close this down.

1220
01:13:42,700 --> 01:13:46,400
Brian is now seven and two.
I made in one good Lord we're

1221
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:47,500
going to go to the coastal
chance.

1222
01:13:47,500 --> 01:13:50,500
We're going with the coastal if
I keep going like this, let me

1223
01:13:50,500 --> 01:13:53,800
ask this.
Do you see this being a rehash

1224
01:13:53,800 --> 01:14:00,600
of 2019 or 2018?
I think it's going to be closer

1225
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:02,400
to 2090.
I think this is definitely a

1226
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:04,500
close down to the wire game.
You're going to see.

1227
01:14:04,500 --> 01:14:07,900
This is an absolute dog fight at
night in.

1228
01:14:07,900 --> 01:14:10,500
Yeah, I think we're going to
struggle up and down.

1229
01:14:10,500 --> 01:14:12,600
I think we'll be able to move
the ball somewhat against them

1230
01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:17,100
but I think we have a hard time
finding the end zone and I think

1231
01:14:17,100 --> 01:14:20,100
they're going to have they're
gonna hit some big plays against

1232
01:14:20,100 --> 01:14:21,900
us in the running game but
they're going to struggle to

1233
01:14:21,900 --> 01:14:24,000
move the ball consistently in
the passing game.

1234
01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:28,500
Because we'll be able to get
after their quarterback so that

1235
01:14:28,500 --> 01:14:31,400
that's how I think the game is
going to go, nothing's gonna be

1236
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:33,500
a tight one down at the end, but
I think they'll just have enough

1237
01:14:33,500 --> 01:14:35,100
gas to get over the hump against
us.

1238
01:14:35,500 --> 01:14:37,600
All right.
Again, folks, talk to us and

1239
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:39,600
five weeks.
We might have very different

1240
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:43,800
opinions on this, you know.
And again, this is us looking

1241
01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:47,900
where we are now in.
I think as we get to kind of the

1242
01:14:47,900 --> 01:14:50,500
Middle Point here, this is what
it is.

1243
01:14:50,500 --> 01:14:52,700
This is what we're seeing as we
are now.

1244
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:56,000
I think I'm looking at an
Mystical and I think Brian's a

1245
01:14:56,008 --> 01:14:58,200
football player that's been on
the field, a lot more than me.

1246
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:02,200
So he's taking a little bit of a
different look, but if y'all are

1247
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:04,900
coming in at us in three weeks
and we'll Curtis, you said we're

1248
01:15:04,900 --> 01:15:07,400
going to lose West Virginia.
Now, you got us winning why?

1249
01:15:07,900 --> 01:15:11,700
Well, because I've seen Game
tape and it's different

1250
01:15:11,700 --> 01:15:13,200
opinions.
All right?

1251
01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:15,400
Brian?
I'm going to let you leave this

1252
01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:17,900
one.
Yeah, comes to Lane stadium in

1253
01:15:17,900 --> 01:15:21,200
October.
What do you think on that one?

1254
01:15:22,300 --> 01:15:25,200
That's a fucking W for the
Hokies that in our dues.

1255
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:28,500
He cannot win in Lane.
We're going to eat.

1256
01:15:28,500 --> 01:15:31,200
Kenny pick it alive.
It's going to be fun.

1257
01:15:33,700 --> 01:15:37,200
Like at this point can he pick?
It is what he is there to live

1258
01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:40,400
and die by what he's able to do
and how much they're able to

1259
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:44,700
help him in every game.
I think that defense takes a big

1260
01:15:44,700 --> 01:15:47,500
step back this year, losing a
lot of talent to the NFL.

1261
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:50,800
And I don't think all of a
sudden, can he pick?

1262
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:52,900
It is going to be a new new
player.

1263
01:15:52,900 --> 01:15:57,000
We know, we know his floor and
we know his ceiling and I think

1264
01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:59,800
we're going to get more of the
same, but I think we're going to

1265
01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:02,600
be doing a lot.
Better job of making him

1266
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:04,600
uncomfortable.
This year and just for some

1267
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:08,800
reason when we play pit in Lane
it is completely different than

1268
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:11,800
playing pit in Heinz Field.
Exactly.

1269
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:14,600
You know what Whitney's to like
schedule that game every year

1270
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:18,400
and make it be at FedEx.
Now we do not know, let's just

1271
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:19,900
do it at FedEx.
It's a little point for

1272
01:16:19,900 --> 01:16:21,400
everybody.
Y'all can't put anybody in the

1273
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:25,200
stands anyway.
We have agreed for the first

1274
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:30,200
time and I Braun I say we take
the W similar lot of stuff.

1275
01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:34,300
You said you know pits offenses
bringing a ton of production

1276
01:16:34,300 --> 01:16:38,000
back and you take less the
Virginia Tech game last year

1277
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:41,900
that offense was not good.
It did not produce and kill.

1278
01:16:42,100 --> 01:16:43,500
Kenny pig is still the
quarterback.

1279
01:16:43,500 --> 01:16:45,300
We know what he can do, what he
can do.

1280
01:16:45,700 --> 01:16:48,700
So where's your one big piece in
the defense you already

1281
01:16:48,700 --> 01:16:50,100
mentioned?
They lost a ton.

1282
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:55,500
They really lost their top.
Five players in Hamlin Ford

1283
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:58,200
Wyman.
There to their two, best players

1284
01:16:58,200 --> 01:16:59,900
in the secondary.
Their three best players on the

1285
01:16:59,900 --> 01:17:02,100
defense of huh?
And I mean they had a couple of

1286
01:17:02,108 --> 01:17:05,900
young guys that DT get, you
know, All-American nods.

1287
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:09,300
But I don't and they can
definitely ramp up and get some

1288
01:17:09,300 --> 01:17:10,700
production back on that fence
blonde.

1289
01:17:10,700 --> 01:17:13,000
I don't think they get enough
production back to get them

1290
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:15,600
where they need to be to beat
Team like Virginia Tech.

1291
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:21,900
I also wonder if Kenny picket
can't play, if the hit ad

1292
01:17:21,900 --> 01:17:25,600
finally says, dude, you stuck
with this guy for three bleep in

1293
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:29,100
years, he's not Good.
Do something different or you're

1294
01:17:29,100 --> 01:17:31,500
fired?
I think that's the problem is

1295
01:17:31,500 --> 01:17:33,400
getting, it's not the Kenny
Pickett isn't good, it's that

1296
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:37,900
he's not good enough to hide all
the other deficiencies that they

1297
01:17:37,900 --> 01:17:42,700
have on that offense and but but
they expect that of him, they

1298
01:17:42,700 --> 01:17:45,200
put that on him and he's just
not that guy.

1299
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:47,800
Now they have whether they have
that.

1300
01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:49,300
Got on the roster is another
question.

1301
01:17:49,300 --> 01:17:51,200
I don't think they do
necessarily I think Kenny

1302
01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:54,900
pickets their best option at
quarterback but that doesn't

1303
01:17:54,900 --> 01:17:56,700
mean that he's the guy that's
going to get it done.

1304
01:17:57,700 --> 01:18:00,600
So Kenny pick it is their best
option at quarterback.

1305
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:05,200
Are you that what you're saying?
Yeah, well you can't pick.

1306
01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:10,900
Its record is 21 and 17 in three
seasons and we're probably going

1307
01:18:10,900 --> 01:18:14,400
to see just above five hundred
play from them again this year

1308
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:15,900
guys.
It's going to be six and six or

1309
01:18:15,900 --> 01:18:19,900
seven and five seven and five
get bank that shit right now.

1310
01:18:20,100 --> 01:18:23,800
All right.
Maybe that's when we do lay, we

1311
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:27,400
lay on the apps here, pit.
Under whatever their number is,

1312
01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:30,100
I think it is seven and a half.
So I think we feel safe on that.

1313
01:18:30,300 --> 01:18:34,800
Let's move on Brian.
Let's go to be A game last year

1314
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:39,800
that, you know, it looked like a
blowout, you did it look like an

1315
01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:43,500
absolute destruction.
It was 42 14, or something like

1316
01:18:43,500 --> 01:18:45,400
that.
We won by more than three

1317
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:47,800
touchdowns.
Sorry, I don't remember the

1318
01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:54,200
number on, but we force five
turnovers and you know the story

1319
01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:56,600
kind of coming in 4 BC, this
year's can Frank.

1320
01:18:56,600 --> 01:19:00,900
Cignetti a guy who was coach for
a long time NFL and college

1321
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:04,400
coach some good quarterbacks
along as Away, can he have

1322
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:06,400
filled your canvas take that
step?

1323
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:09,700
Because they house, they have
one of the best offensive lines

1324
01:19:09,700 --> 01:19:11,900
about owning the ACC.
But in the country they have a

1325
01:19:11,900 --> 01:19:14,600
bunch of good weapons.
Its kind of struggling with the

1326
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:17,000
running back position, but I
think with a guy like jerk

1327
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:19,900
eviction the weapons on the
outside that can be hidden.

1328
01:19:20,900 --> 01:19:24,500
I think he's going to take the
step and, you know, on the

1329
01:19:24,500 --> 01:19:27,200
fence.
It's can a secondary disk

1330
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:31,000
progress up because they run a
victory and a half.

1331
01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:33,900
They want to cover 1, cover
three scheme, That's what

1332
01:19:33,900 --> 01:19:35,500
they're running.
That's the look.

1333
01:19:35,500 --> 01:19:38,500
You're going to get there.
They're not variation.

1334
01:19:38,500 --> 01:19:41,000
I'm giving you multiples.
That's what they do.

1335
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:45,300
So if that can take a step and I
think jerky, which is going to

1336
01:19:45,308 --> 01:19:51,600
take a step and I think if this
was a Saturday game may be

1337
01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:55,600
coming off of, you know, a
normal week, we'd be able to

1338
01:19:55,600 --> 01:20:01,900
pull the W, but I'm going to
give us the L here and maybe the

1339
01:20:01,900 --> 01:20:06,200
only thing I can see is Is maybe
they're good and they're like

1340
01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:10,400
six six or seven Lynch coming in
in the Stadium's, a little bit

1341
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:12,900
electric to where it gives our
guys some juice.

1342
01:20:12,900 --> 01:20:15,100
But that's the end.
You know, I think jerk a bitch

1343
01:20:15,100 --> 01:20:19,200
is actually going to become a
first-round quarterback because

1344
01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:21,000
of what he is probably going to
Pittsburgh.

1345
01:20:22,100 --> 01:20:23,500
Okay.
Okay.

1346
01:20:23,900 --> 01:20:26,400
What do you think he's going to
be become literally

1347
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:28,800
Roethlisberger 2.0, though.
Exactly.

1348
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:34,600
Where the last name one person.
Okay, okay, I'm right there with

1349
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:37,000
you bud.
I've got this one as an L, as

1350
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:40,800
well, and it comes down to jirka
Vic.

1351
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:46,200
It comes down to what I think
will be a slightly improved

1352
01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:48,100
defense.
Especially in terms of limiting,

1353
01:20:48,100 --> 01:20:54,000
the big explosive plays
especially from the Position and

1354
01:20:55,300 --> 01:20:57,600
I think just an extra year of
season is going to be just

1355
01:20:57,600 --> 01:20:59,600
enough to get them over the hump
because that game was not as

1356
01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:02,900
close was a lot closer than I
should say.

1357
01:21:02,900 --> 01:21:06,000
A lot closer than what the
scoreboard indicated last year.

1358
01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:10,200
You mentioned the five turnovers
you when you have five turnovers

1359
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:13,600
but you only have that that
margin of Victory.

1360
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:16,200
I mean tells you that that's a
pretty close game.

1361
01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:18,200
That was probably a one score
game.

1362
01:21:18,500 --> 01:21:22,400
If they play to their average in
terms of turnover, Differential

1363
01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:25,400
right.
Being yeah, pretty much, you

1364
01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:28,000
know?
But that is what it is.

1365
01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:35,100
All right, Brian.
So currently now, I'm not into

1366
01:21:35,700 --> 01:21:41,300
your Aiden 3 so we're not that
far off from one another What do

1367
01:21:41,308 --> 01:21:49,200
you think about Miami?
But that's going to be know I'll

1368
01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:52,500
damn even even losing all their
defensive line.

1369
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:58,100
Yeah I think they do a pretty
good job of reloading and I

1370
01:21:58,100 --> 01:22:03,400
think that the Eric King is
going to have a monster year if

1371
01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:09,500
he can remain healthy.
I'm not looking forward to this

1372
01:22:09,500 --> 01:22:13,900
game very much you know they
didn't do too bad in terms of

1373
01:22:13,900 --> 01:22:18,500
returning Talent they return
some of their their production

1374
01:22:18,500 --> 01:22:23,200
from last year but really A lot
of the production of offense and

1375
01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:29,100
a good amount on defense.
So this may be the year that

1376
01:22:29,100 --> 01:22:33,200
Manny Diaz figures it out and
kind of gets them to play

1377
01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:39,400
consistently to their level of
talent compared to having those

1378
01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:43,900
about two or three, Clunkers in
the year that either they lose,

1379
01:22:43,900 --> 01:22:46,600
or they play down to an opponent
that they should and barely

1380
01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:51,600
scrape out a win.
So I think look for them to

1381
01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:56,000
potentially.
Also this other potentially push

1382
01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:58,900
you and see for the ACC Coastal
Championship.

1383
01:22:59,300 --> 01:23:01,500
All right, so bronze, kind of
locked it in.

1384
01:23:01,500 --> 01:23:04,200
Here.
He is now eight wins for losses

1385
01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:08,000
for the Hokies essentially
probably finishing any somewhere

1386
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:11,600
between second and third, right?
Depending on what happened to

1387
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:13,400
say, for the third third and the
coastal.

1388
01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:15,400
I've got, actually, my Emmy
winning the coastal.

1389
01:23:15,500 --> 01:23:17,300
A Miami one in the coaster.
All right.

1390
01:23:17,900 --> 01:23:20,300
Well, I'm taking this.
Anil as well, folks.

1391
01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:23,500
But let me just say this
everything is determined on

1392
01:23:23,500 --> 01:23:26,300
Derek Kings health of how they
do this year.

1393
01:23:27,500 --> 01:23:30,100
Those two other guys are not
even close to ready.

1394
01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:33,500
Come November, they still will
not be as close to ready and

1395
01:23:33,500 --> 01:23:38,700
there's one thing that kind of
caught my that what makes the

1396
01:23:38,700 --> 01:23:46,000
are king So Special.
If you look Thank you, thank you

1397
01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:48,600
T.
SS M for saying this is cool.

1398
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:52,000
Thank you for this.
There's one thing I looked at

1399
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:54,400
Brown that will probably shock
you from last year.

1400
01:23:54,400 --> 01:24:00,200
Miami's elusive plays wasn't was
significantly in the red last

1401
01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:03,300
year.
Okay, on both sides of the ball

1402
01:24:03,300 --> 01:24:06,200
or on machine on both sides but
on passing and running nails.

1403
01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:11,900
But that team was still able to
put up over 440 yards of offense

1404
01:24:11,900 --> 01:24:14,600
a game and over 34 points a
game.

1405
01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:18,900
That's why I say this is the
Fate lies on how the Eric King

1406
01:24:18,900 --> 01:24:23,400
is coming off as a CEO because
the way it seems is teams

1407
01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:26,600
respected.
His running ability so much,

1408
01:24:26,700 --> 01:24:29,600
they were not going to give up
the big runs, right?

1409
01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:33,900
They weren't, but what they did,
because of that, you are getting

1410
01:24:33,900 --> 01:24:40,100
the Old Death By A Thousand
Seven yard cut. they were

1411
01:24:40,100 --> 01:24:45,900
getting yards if you take the
air King out of this offense, I

1412
01:24:45,907 --> 01:24:48,400
think they finish not first.
Not second, not third.

1413
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:50,100
I think they finished fourth in
the coaster.

1414
01:24:50,900 --> 01:24:53,000
Let us live with you.
They will.

1415
01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:55,700
This will be a very live and die
by here.

1416
01:24:55,700 --> 01:24:57,400
Healthy, dear King.
Is it really is?

1417
01:24:57,400 --> 01:25:01,500
If he, if he plays 12 games, I
think it's there.

1418
01:25:01,500 --> 01:25:03,900
There right there with you and
see to win the coastal.

1419
01:25:04,100 --> 01:25:07,800
Yep, if he plays, I think it's
pretty much a toss-up, if he's

1420
01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:10,600
healthy for 12 games, if he
plays every game, they win the

1421
01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:13,400
coastal.
They, when you're with me,

1422
01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:16,000
you're picking them to win the
coastal to I'm with you if he's

1423
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:20,300
healthy, they when the coastal.
Okay, we finished second though

1424
01:25:20,500 --> 01:25:25,200
because I think, oh, he's just
throw the, I got us - I've got a

1425
01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:31,000
smile and if you've got them,
probably what 10 into 10 into,

1426
01:25:31,300 --> 01:25:35,700
we're will be, they'll be
tending to Alabama, they'll

1427
01:25:35,700 --> 01:25:37,000
probably screw up one other
time.

1428
01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:39,800
They'll do a typical - so you
think that game is going to

1429
01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:43,700
decide the coastal.
Yep, because I think you and

1430
01:25:43,700 --> 01:25:45,500
sees not only going to lose to
us.

1431
01:25:46,700 --> 01:25:49,600
I think UNC about UNC schedule
here.

1432
01:25:49,700 --> 01:25:52,200
This is the great.
Wonderful thing of streaming

1433
01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:55,400
folks, Brian usually could edit
this, to make it not seem as

1434
01:25:55,400 --> 01:26:00,000
long everything in real time.
Lee isn't operating in real

1435
01:26:00,700 --> 01:26:02,400
reliable.
That means.

1436
01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:07,700
So I think UNC is going to use
to us.

1437
01:26:09,300 --> 01:26:11,400
I think UNC is going to lose to
Miami.

1438
01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:17,400
And I think UNC is going to get
tripped up by NC State.

1439
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:22,100
I could see that in feast and
definitely seemed to watch out

1440
01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:26,800
and potential Notre Dame because
they play Notre Dame, much they

1441
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:29,600
play Notre Dame three weeks
after we played them.

1442
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:34,800
So you got UNC pulling 3 plus
losses for their lose.

1443
01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:37,500
Four games are going to go
ahead, a okay, they're going to

1444
01:26:37,500 --> 01:26:41,100
go in for and is NC.
State is probably the team that

1445
01:26:41,100 --> 01:26:45,100
could snake bite them this year.
And that's a lot of getting from

1446
01:26:45,100 --> 01:26:48,400
weekend.
Probably, that I'm pretty.

1447
01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:51,000
Hi on NC State.
I should say I'm a lot higher on

1448
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:57,500
n.c. state than I have been in
any point the the last Five

1449
01:26:57,500 --> 01:27:00,300
years, at least, I mean, his in
Sea, state is probably the one

1450
01:27:00,300 --> 01:27:04,600
team in the Atlantic to watch
out for exactly.

1451
01:27:04,700 --> 01:27:06,600
So I'm not in three bronze
eight.

1452
01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:10,700
Informed, that is our current
predictions entertainment

1453
01:27:10,700 --> 01:27:15,600
purposes, only Billy Ray.
What is happening, buddy?

1454
01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:21,100
On the Saturday shall know that.
We appreciate you guys watching

1455
01:27:21,100 --> 01:27:25,200
us tonight.
So we let me ask this Braun

1456
01:27:25,700 --> 01:27:29,500
either of our records black
Monday comes.

1457
01:27:29,500 --> 01:27:32,100
This just point, they still have
a job if he wants it.

1458
01:27:34,900 --> 01:27:38,300
I think at this point given what
we saw for the happened last

1459
01:27:38,300 --> 01:27:44,000
year, if it's a Twins or better,
I think we're looking at another

1460
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:48,700
year of Justin Fuente.
I think you're right.

1461
01:27:49,100 --> 01:27:52,300
I think he wins is the threshold
if he wins nine.

1462
01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:56,100
Well we're all happy not
completely happy because the

1463
01:27:56,100 --> 01:27:59,000
gold every mistake, I think the
threshold could be potentially

1464
01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:02,600
lower in necessarily say that
that's a good thing.

1465
01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:06,900
I'm just saying I think based on
the information we got from last

1466
01:28:06,900 --> 01:28:10,400
year I think I'm mining that
with we're in the middle of a

1467
01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:14,300
major campaign for Reach For
Excellence.

1468
01:28:14,300 --> 01:28:18,200
I feel like just there's a lot
of factors where Wit may not

1469
01:28:18,200 --> 01:28:23,500
want to upset the apple cart
unless things, get ugly, got it.

1470
01:28:23,500 --> 01:28:29,700
And when I say that, I mean, no
bowl, no, no, UVA win essential

1471
01:28:29,700 --> 01:28:32,400
essentially, those six games.
I said we're booking.

1472
01:28:34,600 --> 01:28:39,300
We're putting you began the Elle
column and then yeah, and that's

1473
01:28:39,300 --> 01:28:41,400
when we get in trouble and
that's when we started having

1474
01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:45,400
similar conversations that we
had last offseason and I'm not

1475
01:28:45,400 --> 01:28:49,200
saying that that's necessarily
my expectations of what I think

1476
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:51,500
we should do.
I'm just saying, I feel like

1477
01:28:51,500 --> 01:28:55,000
based on the information that we
have, that's the most likely

1478
01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:57,100
outcome.
Awesome.

1479
01:28:57,700 --> 01:29:01,100
All right.
So folks, we got a, we got a, we

1480
01:29:01,100 --> 01:29:03,700
got a big question here from the
sun's real quick before we close

1481
01:29:03,700 --> 01:29:08,200
out.
What game scares you more BC or

1482
01:29:08,200 --> 01:29:15,000
pit so at BC or pit in Lane BC
100% 1000%?

1483
01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:20,200
No. 138 percent ever seen that
on the commitment to the 138

1484
01:29:20,200 --> 01:29:25,500
percent, BC scares me more
because we know what we get on

1485
01:29:25,500 --> 01:29:31,100
offense from pit sons and we
know on defense, you don't

1486
01:29:31,100 --> 01:29:33,800
replace that many guys that go
to the league.

1487
01:29:34,500 --> 01:29:39,000
Become an elite unit, and even
with the elite unit they had

1488
01:29:39,000 --> 01:29:40,900
last year.
If you remember that game Braun,

1489
01:29:40,900 --> 01:29:44,100
we were pissed but it literally
took us to the third quarter to

1490
01:29:44,100 --> 01:29:47,000
get pissed.
It's not like they came out and

1491
01:29:47,500 --> 01:29:52,900
it's not like them at Lane in
2019 when we were there and

1492
01:29:52,900 --> 01:29:57,300
after the first quarter, we just
knew his games over there.

1493
01:29:57,300 --> 01:30:00,800
Yeah, you gotta be see.
I mean, say what you will about

1494
01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:03,800
the stadium size, but they get
it rocking up there in Chestnut

1495
01:30:03,800 --> 01:30:06,000
Hill, man.
Now, and that's why I'm hoping

1496
01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:10,600
they have a good record because
a Friday night game up there.

1497
01:30:11,100 --> 01:30:14,800
If it's rocking and get some
electricity, it will definitely

1498
01:30:14,800 --> 01:30:17,600
give a better chance for us.
If we go up there and they're

1499
01:30:17,600 --> 01:30:20,100
like four and four.
And I know that's been us saying

1500
01:30:20,100 --> 01:30:22,000
with jirka bitch didn't take a
step with your coverage.

1501
01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:24,000
Could take a step that defense
doesn't.

1502
01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:26,800
They could still be myth, but if
there's no juice in that

1503
01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:30,200
stadium, so tough for guys to
get up for yep.

1504
01:30:30,600 --> 01:30:35,400
Alright number, so believe it or
not brawn, This is our last

1505
01:30:35,400 --> 01:30:43,100
broadcast of 2021 with no
college football bloody yes,

1506
01:30:43,100 --> 01:30:45,900
sir.
We got real games.

1507
01:30:45,900 --> 01:30:49,300
This weekend, ladies and
gentlemen, re games conference

1508
01:30:49,300 --> 01:30:51,800
games.
Not the best late.

1509
01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:57,000
You've got one, two, three,
four, five, yeah, 5 games.

1510
01:30:59,500 --> 01:31:03,200
I like that TW o SM, it needs to
be a win.

1511
01:31:03,300 --> 01:31:04,800
BC is going to be tough.
I agree.

1512
01:31:05,000 --> 01:31:08,600
We got five games Saturday.
We kick off and we're going to

1513
01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:11,000
pick two of them today.
Y'all know, we normally pick all

1514
01:31:11,000 --> 01:31:14,600
the ACC games involved or most
of them.

1515
01:31:14,600 --> 01:31:17,200
Sometimes it's ones like we
don't even try to look at and at

1516
01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:19,600
least maybe a couple big game,
but we're going to games this

1517
01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:21,500
week.
We're looking at the Nebraska

1518
01:31:21,500 --> 01:31:24,200
Illinois game and the Hawaii
UCLA game.

1519
01:31:24,500 --> 01:31:26,700
Let's start Nebraska, Illinois,
Braun.

1520
01:31:27,300 --> 01:31:30,300
And what We've got here is
Nebraska's on the road.

1521
01:31:30,300 --> 01:31:33,700
Scott Frost is in deep shit.
All over the place between not

1522
01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:38,500
games in the assemble a shit and
you've got Illinois Bret,

1523
01:31:38,500 --> 01:31:44,800
Bielema takes over to Illinois.
Back in Big Ten, country back in

1524
01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:47,500
somewhere he's comfortable.
Here's the line.

1525
01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:53,300
Nebraska is lame 7.
This is a tell annoy 55 is the

1526
01:31:53,300 --> 01:31:57,700
over under number the, one p.m.
kick in for all those

1527
01:31:57,700 --> 01:31:59,700
degenerates like us who will
probably be?

1528
01:32:01,400 --> 01:32:05,500
I mean I'll be watching.
It is going to be on Fox at

1529
01:32:05,500 --> 01:32:09,500
1:00.
Last year's meeting 4123

1530
01:32:09,500 --> 01:32:11,600
Illinois.
So what are you thinking?

1531
01:32:12,100 --> 01:32:15,300
This one brand taking a line and
taking an over under which you

1532
01:32:15,300 --> 01:32:20,300
got.
I think Illinois is going to

1533
01:32:20,300 --> 01:32:23,200
cover.
All right, so you're taking

1534
01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:25,500
Illinois with the point, right?
Yep.

1535
01:32:26,700 --> 01:32:30,000
All right, so let's my God write
that down.

1536
01:32:30,600 --> 01:32:37,300
Um, I'm not screwing with the
stinking spread, I'm just not.

1537
01:32:37,300 --> 01:32:41,300
It's, it's too much going on.
We don't know where Nebraska's

1538
01:32:41,300 --> 01:32:43,300
head is.
Bielema, is trying to install

1539
01:32:43,300 --> 01:32:44,900
something new.
They're probably going back to

1540
01:32:44,900 --> 01:32:47,300
his Wisconsin, roots, in a big
power game.

1541
01:32:47,400 --> 01:32:50,400
Don't know if he has the players
there for Alec Brian is on

1542
01:32:50,400 --> 01:32:52,300
Illinois.
So I really am going to kind of

1543
01:32:52,300 --> 01:32:55,900
pull for them.
I am going to take the over 55.

1544
01:32:56,200 --> 01:32:57,200
Okay.
Okay.

1545
01:32:57,900 --> 01:33:00,600
For me, you're staying, you're
staying away from the spread

1546
01:33:00,600 --> 01:33:02,400
because there's too many
variables wait.

1547
01:33:02,600 --> 01:33:06,100
Umi variables.
Also first games it, alright, if

1548
01:33:06,100 --> 01:33:12,200
I forced your hand who you got
in the spread, um, if you force

1549
01:33:12,200 --> 01:33:15,300
me on the spread, I think I
would take the Illinois, okay?

1550
01:33:15,300 --> 01:33:18,900
It also could see Nebraska who
has a really good defense

1551
01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:21,200
locking down of converting
offense.

1552
01:33:23,000 --> 01:33:25,900
In winning by, you know, 14 17
points.

1553
01:33:25,900 --> 01:33:30,300
But I'm going to go over because
this game has not went under in

1554
01:33:30,300 --> 01:33:32,800
like ever since they started
playing each other in last few

1555
01:33:32,800 --> 01:33:34,800
years.
So I'm over 55.

1556
01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:40,800
Brian is Illinois taking the
points and their that is watch

1557
01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:43,500
that game.
I'm going to try to Lodge it.

1558
01:33:43,500 --> 01:33:45,700
We've got some stuff going on
Saturday but I think I'll be

1559
01:33:45,700 --> 01:33:48,700
home by 1:00 to get the old man
cave fired up here.

1560
01:33:49,500 --> 01:33:52,700
Second game, Brian watching the
West.

1561
01:33:52,800 --> 01:33:55,900
It's Coast, Hawaii.
CLA UCLA.

1562
01:33:55,900 --> 01:33:59,100
Chip, Kelly is essentially in a
make-or-break season for him.

1563
01:33:59,100 --> 01:34:04,800
Absolutely, UCLA is laying 18
points in the over under is 68

1564
01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:09,600
and a half, what you got.
So I think it's two things here.

1565
01:34:11,100 --> 01:34:16,400
UCLA does return a lot on
offense, but They notoriously

1566
01:34:16,500 --> 01:34:19,800
every season start a little
slow.

1567
01:34:19,800 --> 01:34:23,200
So I definitely have UCLA
pulling this one out, but I

1568
01:34:23,200 --> 01:34:28,200
think Hawaii with that spread
you know, they have a lot of

1569
01:34:28,208 --> 01:34:31,600
points to work with.
I think they, they cover I'm

1570
01:34:31,600 --> 01:34:33,400
with you on that.
I think we'll why covers.

1571
01:34:33,400 --> 01:34:38,800
I think UCLA wins over under.
Um, I'd say overall, I think

1572
01:34:38,800 --> 01:34:41,000
this is going to turn into a big
shootout which is going to be

1573
01:34:41,000 --> 01:34:43,600
great at 3:30 on a Saturday
afternoon.

1574
01:34:44,600 --> 01:34:50,200
Buddy, is anything broken in the
last hour and 36 minutes?

1575
01:34:50,200 --> 01:34:54,300
This one a long time?
I haven't seen anything come

1576
01:34:54,300 --> 01:34:56,700
across buddy.
I think, I think we don't have

1577
01:34:56,700 --> 01:34:59,000
any major break here, as we
close out.

1578
01:34:59,300 --> 01:35:00,900
Awesome.
Well, folks, that is going to

1579
01:35:00,907 --> 01:35:04,000
wrap up this episode of The
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01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:06,600
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