Your boys Curtis and Brian dive into the Hokies blundering away a loss at home against Liberty. They also take a deep look at the state of the program and if Justin Fuente and company are capable of getting the Hokies back on the right track, both this season and next.
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Welcome back to the boundary
Corner podcast along my partner
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bronzy glow.
My name is Curtis Wilson and
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Brian today.
The Hokies fall 3835, Liberty,
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and it's late.
It's 10:30 Saturday night where
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I'm pounding on a Doppel, Vienna
logger.
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You've got some Bach there and
tonight.
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We call these recapping.
This isn't a recap episode
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tonight or at least out of this
game.
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This is a recap episode.
Of the current coaching staff at
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this University.
State of the program?
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Yeah, perfect way to put it
because what happened today?
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Is inexcusable. on third, seven,
football and me and Brian a
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little after the game for about
35 minutes we chatted Brian I'm
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up in my attic working.
Got the earbuds in me and Ron
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are talking back and forth.
He's, I mean, let's say, you
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want to just go do this now and
light?
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Brown, we got to calm down if
not.
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It's going to be more in this
episode, but we could go into
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the details of the of what
happened and it's a lot of shit.
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It's a lot of the shit we've
seen before.
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It's a lot of shit that makes.
Us angry.
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But we're not.
We're going to break this down
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on the several levels, again of
the state of the program and of
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the coaching staff, More earlier
today Brian hit me with
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something talking about the way
we do things and we look back
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and we pointed out that there
have been essentially six games
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in the last five years.
Take that back seven games.
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Since Justin Fuente took over as
head coach, that Boggle the mind
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of why we lose Syracuse and
2016, Georgia Tech in 2017, ODU,
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and 2018, the Boston College,
and the Duke game in 2019, and
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this year so far, Wake and
Liberty the day.
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Big man, you brought it up.
Go.
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I am tired, man, and I'm not
just saying that because it's
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10:37 on a Saturday night.
I am tired of watching this
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football.
Team played down to sub
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competition.
And then hope for the best
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because we do it once or twice
every single year.
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And when we do it, it feels like
we're just like the coaching
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staff is out there flailing.
It's like once once the trouble
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hits against these lesser
complex or competition, we just
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forget what to do.
I mean the only area that I
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would say we did well in today
is I mean I'm going to actually
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give the offensive line some
credit.
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I think they did a pretty good
job today.
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Couple flags that I'd like to
see cleaned up but overall a
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decent game for them.
But and Hendon hooker just need
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he bawled out when he needed to
and we called his number.
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I'll whole lot.
Probably more than I am
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comfortable with on a given
game.
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But this is Liberty, folks.
I know they're ranked number 25
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and they have some Talent.
They have talent at certain
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areas, but most of their team is
full of three star or less
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Talent.
Yep, they have what 83 star
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players we have.
Oh God.
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How many?
I don't even know.
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And there there's no other way
to spin it, or excuse it, or
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anything like that.
We were out coach and it started
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at 15 minutes in the first
quarter.
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Woohoo.
All right.
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Hold on.
You know, I missed the first
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half because I was at a baseball
game.
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So I'll let you divulge a little
bit under that.
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I mean first series gash up the
middle gash, up the middle.
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What did I talk about when we
recorded on Thursday night with
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the defensive tackle?
So who did I say?
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Should be playing front line.
Who did I say?
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Should be playing second.
One we say, Crawford, and
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Kendricks and fuga, and Hewitt
and me, and you have talked
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about this on this program and
we talked about it outside this.
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Teams that run the fucking ball
and I just dropped the first f
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bomb.
I don't know if you want to keep
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counting night here on the
fucking ball as to now, When you
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are running Jared, Hewitt.
Freaking heart of the line,
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normal pilot heart on the line
with fight.
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Guys, you want to take him to a
bra bra with you don't get me
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wrong there 286 pounds and I'm
assuming morels like to 70 on a
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good day.
I saw inside Zone on that first
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drive because I got home.
We got to have time and I look
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at Brian, said, look at the
first two defensive drop and
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it's inside Zone and they're
literally just getting pushed.
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And I'm sitting here in.
Luckily I got Brian.
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Some of y'all don't have
somebody like Brian that I can
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talk to my man.
What the fuck we doing?
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You're just like, I don't know,
I don't know why we're
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continuously letting undersized
defensive tackles against teens
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or run the fucking ball.
Yeah, I mean we got to balance
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this thing out, man.
I have no problem with, I mean,
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obviously Kendricks.
And Hewitt, as you said, I mean
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Pollard and he would sorry our
guys that play hard and
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Especially Pollard.
I love having on obvious passing
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downs.
But, and like I said, I love you
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and all the work he puts in the
program.
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But at some point, you've got to
say this is our deficiency, we
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need to clean up this
deficiency.
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And if you're seeing
consistently, when teams are
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running the ball against you and
your defensive tackles are not
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able to hold their Gap.
And let them give the
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linebackers a chance to make a
play.
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We'll get to the linebackers
here shortly.
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Let the linebackers make a play.
That's a problem and I'm just,
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I'm baffled that we're still
this far into the season guys
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getting healthy.
I don't know if after the game
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if this was subtweeting the
staff or subtweeting, the fans,
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the Crawford saying No, I'm not
hurt.
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Y'all can stop talking about
that.
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Yeah, I don't know if that's the
subtweet against the staff for
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not getting him in there more
consistently or if that's
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subtweet.
The fans were talking so much
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shit about it but whatever it
is.
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I mean I feel like we're
starting to see A locker room
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that is getting frustrated.
And I'm not sure if it's with
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the expectations and just not
following through, or if it's
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with the coaching staff, or it's
both, but I'm starting to get
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like, 2018 Vibes here.
So this team is way more
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talented in so much more
calendar.
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It feels it feels like we don't
have rudderless like every time
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we feel like we're writing the
ship, we get a broadside from a
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team that has no business
running with us like Liberty or
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like in earlier this year.
Like wait, wait, it's true.
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Then it's true.
And it's we're going into it and
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it's 7:00 now and essentially
Five Seasons and we sit here and
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today a lot of Stuff you talked
about, we didn't have juicer,
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but that's okay.
We're still more talented than
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them.
But what it is, is you just what
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I feel Brian, and I didn't feel
this last week in Louisville,
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but I felt it this week at home,
Iris eyeliner, fucking dead.
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Regardless of play that happens,
our side lines are fucking dead
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and honestly wasn't like that
out the gate this season.
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I felt like we started the
season.
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I mean, we and they talked about
it all off.
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Stays in the whole like, bring
your own fucking juice.
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Like well, no one's bringing
fucking juice consistently now,
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nobody knowing there's nobody,
when their plays made last week,
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it was Dax, and that was on the
field this week.
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And I know you're going to
probably hit that at some point
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tonight as we talk and drink
beer.
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And watch Clemson Notre Dame on
our televisions here, but there
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was no juice.
I saw Liberty, somebody popped
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out of bounds and you'd see
somebody jump up in there, man.
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They're, they're fired up their
pain, they're gone.
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They're head, we get a tackle,
it's guys like huh?
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And when the cylons are dead,
especially in it, what's going
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on?
You know, with no fan.
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Then we're going to hit that.
Don't don't believe me, we will
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because it's a lot of shit going
on.
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You've got to motivate yourself.
I hate to say this.
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Because last week, you felt like
it was something there, right?
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You saw guys up, you've seen it
earlier.
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Would you be opposed Brian to
telling 20, guys?
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I don't care if we're at home.
Go sit your ass in Miriam and
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watching game.
You know what before we traveled
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to Louisville after the Wake
debacle, we talked about how the
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Louisville travel Squad was
going to be smaller.
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Yep.
Because of some of the
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shenanigans on the sidelines.
Yeah.
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And I think we saw a little bit
better action against Louisville
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and you know, right?
Right back to it with the home
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game and you've got pretty much
everybody out there on the
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sideline and similar type
situation this week.
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So mean, that's a frustrating
look.
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Yeah, but I mean I'm going to go
a step further than that.
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It wasn't just the sidelines
man.
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Okay, I'm going to say mostly on
defense, the defense doesn't
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have a Swagger a Killer Instinct
dogs.
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I mean I feel like these players
have the potential to be that
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but we're not.
The coaching staff is not
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getting them.
Hungry.
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Haven't?
They haven't yet.
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When I, when I look at this
defense play, I feel like we
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have good players that
occasionally played good.
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But we can don't have dogs that
are asserting the action.
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They're not out there saying
we're going to fucking come at
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you.
We're going to knock the shit
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out of you and at some point
we're going to make a big play
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in turn this thing around but
right now.
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No one is afraid of this defense
does not strike fear in the
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heart of anyone.
And I'm not just saying that
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from a Perspective of, you know,
we don't have a cam Chancellor.
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I'm saying that as we don't do
anything across the board that
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makes teams have to really
scheme, hard to take away and we
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don't have enough Killer
Instinct where we're kind of
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winning the fight before, you
know, were even off the bus.
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Like there used to be something
about playing a hokie defense
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that was in people's heads even
before The first snap and we do
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not have that anymore.
No, that's, that's the honest
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truth.
Man, there were times again.
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Me and Brian roughly been fans
since 1995 and We always the
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most talented know, we weren't
honest truth, but you talked
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about the dogs and it's missing
issue.
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There's missing that one vocal
guy or that one guy, who just
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hit the living shit out of
somebody and literally stand
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over them and say, fuck you.
Fuck you, you do it again.
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I'm gonna hit you again and
immediately it's a mentality
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thing.
I think there are some guys on
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this defense it could be that.
Absolutely.
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Why aren't they vocal though?
Usually Brian you coach, some
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high school football.
You were coached in college.
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You were coached in high school.
Usually, there's a coach that
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will I'm not going to say
override the head coach, but the
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kind of give the head, I'm
assuming there's somebody that
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would get the head coach of huge
Goose.
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Hey you, let Bob saying, what
the fuck you What to say to them
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on that field and you don't say,
hey, we don't do that.
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You let him go out there and get
them fired up and get them
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feeling it.
Yep.
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Am I right?
Yeah, I mean had at him in
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Sydney that those those guys
were Chris Scott and Daniel
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Park.
Shout out to y'all.
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If you're listening obviously
some of our listeners probably
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are very familiar.
With Chris Scott said about that
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coaching down 757.
Yes.
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Oh if y'all seen Krista give a
pregame or a postgame, y'all
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know the intensity of he brings
and he brought that same level
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of intensity when he was playing
on the field, he was the leader
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out there, he was the dog,
people followed him and I feel
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like we have Leaders by example,
on the field.
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But we don't have those guys
that are Assertive in like the
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take, your will tight tight
players right now.
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And I'm not even say players,
but just consistently having
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those performances like you
don't see I haven't seen anybody
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take over game yet and I mean,
let's go ahead while we're here
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while we're talking about
players in general.
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I'm going to give a shout out to
a Mari bar.
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Know who yes in week one was a
guy that I considered more of a
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situational one down player that
was Being asked to do more than
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he should.
And now he is the best player on
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the defense at least he was
today.
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He wants them dead and you talk
about one down run, it wasn't
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even one down specifically, it
was 1 and plus 6 yards.
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Yes, he would come in one in
plus six yards, and that mf'er
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give he is a dog.
And you know what?
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Maybe he is the type of guy that
if somebody can get in his ear.
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Maybe it's 55 is on the
sidelines.
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Now can tell him you got a bark
at them.
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And if they say something to,
you know, we got your back.
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Because he seems like a kind of
got custard, a man, watching the
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pieces, I've watched he was all
over the place and he was doing
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everything his, I look at him
re-borrow right now, Brian and
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that motor in his body.
He has 15 more pounds on him.
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He gets up to 260 265.
And motherfuckers go on in the
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NFL and not only going to the
NFL with how he looks and how an
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experience he is like right now,
he's raw as hell and taking that
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many steps this this quickly.
I mean, it's impressive.
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So I'm gonna give the shout out
to him, but what I'm going to
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Pivot to now is just kind of the
overall linebacker play today
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and I'm going to start with, not
being aware of why Alan Tisdale
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was not.
Ting this game.
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I don't know if this was a team
rule situation because we didn't
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see him until after the first
quarter or something else that
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happened or this was just what
we didn't start Dax last week so
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we're getting him back in there.
Like I have no idea what the The
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thought process was in this
decision but it was bad.
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We looked better when he was in
there.
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That's no doubt and that's not
saying that we look good at any
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point on defense the entire day.
Oh no, that's a unit but that's
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saying that The snaps that Alan
Tisdale played.
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We looked better than the snaps
he didn't I mean obviously root
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getting nicked, you know, early
our second quarter that hurt
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borrow even came out for like I
think a series when he got
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nicked up so okay Nathan is
that's not involve.
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Also yeah.
So but you know as I know fans
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love Dex Dex play.
Too many steps a day between
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waking like what?
He was out there.
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Way too much.
And it showed.
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You know, for all his good
abilities, bad abilities,
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whatever Dax still struggles, at
making decisions fast enough and
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shedding blockers.
It's the old Bud Foster
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statement His head on an aligned
with his feet.
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Yeah, that's it's why so many
times in and everybody's like,
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well bud, love that cool.
But was forced to put decks in
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that situation.
I don't think he felt
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comfortable Tisdale quite yet
last year it.
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But we'll still here.
This year would Dax be it
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backer, I don't know.
But they also are always talking
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about guys who can't get this in
this together.
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We'll never make it because if
you can't make this in this
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think is one you fucked.
Basically, they picked up that
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Pi flag, which was bullshit by
the way.
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That should have been a flag.
All right, anyway.
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Sorry, it's what happens when a
lot of drinking beer.
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It's like, we're sitting in the
we're, like, we're sitting in
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the same room together talking,
but the one thing I will say
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about Dax especially last week,
You missed his juice on the
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sidelines.
Right.
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Yep.
Definitely big play last week.
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Give them all the credit in the
world and you whether you like
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him or hate him or whatever.
He was legitimately less, he was
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in the game.
He was literally cheering every
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fucking play from the sideline
and you need kind of like that.
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So it's almost like, hey coach,
don't let that let him go
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fucking chair.
He's got two more years of
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Eligibility at school.
He can still let him get those
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guys.
We make a first down swinging
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the towel, when somebody makes a
good play on defense, right?
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The sideline, clapping it up but
But there's no juice.
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There is no urgency.
And Brian, there's a reason when
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we were in our, I don't want to
say Prime because I feel like I
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prime.
I don't think we did it yet.
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We were in our 20s.
If there is a reason Lane
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stadium was the most fucking
feared face to play in the
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entire country.
One Death Valley, both of them
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Morton Touchdown, Jesus more
than the swamp warranty town or
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in the plains. and man, I think
We're missing it as a team were
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missing staying there.
We got to stay in there.
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It's almost a year now.
Yep.
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Almost a year now East stands
upper left near North End Zone
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where we can see the guys walk
in.
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In the fields around us that the
energy that was put out.
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We're missing.
It is a team.
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Yeah, I mean as much as we talk
about things they need to bring
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their own juice because I mean
obviously we're not.
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The only fan base is dealing
with this and yeah, we need to
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be able to create their own but
you know, you're a fool.
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If you say that that's not
missing from from this team,
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that was always an element of
what.
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Playing in Lane stadium was
about, was the crowd noise.
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The obviously the entrance just
kind of that psychological
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element before the way the
stadium was to noise to go to
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the opposing side line.
Yeah, I mean we're missing that.
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Badly like across the board.
So it's just And we're not the
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only theme.
So I mean, you know, obviously
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every a lot of people are
dealing with this.
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And so with the other hot, some
other high-profile teams are
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dealing with the just as badly
as we are in some cases.
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Shit, do Michigan.
Last week.
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Michigan last week.
I mean, we got Penn State this
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week.
Who else lost one today?
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That that was at home.
Hold on.
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I caliber team.
There was a couple higher
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caliber team that lost today.
We were not the only ones that's
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all.
In that game they were down, you
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see?
This.
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All right, your ham, it's tough
to dictate terms.
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There's things that go on.
Is there a game?
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And I don't care if it's next
week.
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I don't care if it's two weeks
from now on we play Pet.
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I don't care if it's next month.
Is there a game where he goes
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bud?
And just says, we're going to
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send six or seven every time I
don't give a shit.
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I want you guys just to play
without thinking, you know what?
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We get gas for some runs in
front passes fucking because
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this isn't working.
We today, we lost by a Thousand
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Cuts the pace Liberty play that.
Good God Almighty, you could
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have served fucking Christmas
dinner at the pace.
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They were playing today.
Yep, they did.
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He say that.
And all we had to do was have a
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couple fuck up drives and all of
a sudden they're in the, in the
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driver's seat man.
And that's exactly what
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happened.
We had a couple drives where we
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went three and out.
We had a couple drives where we
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settle for field goals, and that
was the fucking difference in
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the game.
It's very true and probably the
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biggest today.
This is a actually got to hear
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this on the radio.
We got a baseball.
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My wife took my oldest son over
to the the grandparents a cuz I
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think sometimes me watching a
she hadn't thought this all
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after this week thing.
I hadn't had to sit a chance to
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sit and watch a game by myself
and take notes in like three
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weeks because my mom was in
town.
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One time, we had to go to the
neighbors one time, and there
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were some other things going on
with that.
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So today is kind of like, she,
let me have him on and I'm
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sitting here and I pull up in
the driveway and I'm listening
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to the laser and burn up on the
radio and it's eight seconds
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left behind.
Jalen Holston has just broke a
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12-yard gain to get inside the
fiber.
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At the 4-yard line, there is a
timeout left.
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There is eight seconds, and I'm
sitting there.
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I'm sitting there Brian.
I'm like you run ball.
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You, you, you just got a massive
gain.
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This is the strength of your
team that you have.
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Probably the best offensive line
I near say since 2003.
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When Jake Grove in the, I
probably agree with that.
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And we were on a goddamn fade,
you played football, how long
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does it take to set up a fade
route?
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Seconds.
And I'm sitting here in the car
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listening and I'm like, why the
fuck?
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Why?
A couple times in this game.
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You're running it there.
When we went to tied up over all
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manages.
These key moments seem to always
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never work in our favor.
And while we're at Key moments,
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not working in our favor, Let's
go ahead and discuss.
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The end of the game.
Oh,
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what do you want?
You obviously had the fucking
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right, you did in there cuz you
blocked the fucking kit.
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Number two, perfectly right now.
In my opinion, the the best
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coach on this staff has been
shy, best.
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Trust the best coach on your
staff this season.
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Live recording, guys, this is
what you get.
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If you guys are wondering what
we stopped, her name, 50-yarder
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steam because there's nobody in
the middle of the field.
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Yes.
James Chavez has been the bus
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fucking coach on this team but
by a pretty big measure in some
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cases and You didn't trust him
in that situation.
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Yeah, I'm called a timeout.
You supposedly?
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I guess whispered it and then
just at the last second yelled
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it.
I just how about this, trust
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your best coach to get the right
guys, on the field and then
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built a kicker that's kicking a
59 + yard field goal.
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It's not it's not it's not
rocket science man.
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And
so, after that, Horror fit
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horrific situation, we're
scrambling because we think we
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won the game, we forget the down
and distance, and we put a
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prevent defense in like, we're
expecting a Hail Mary.
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Now I'm down distance time
o'clock.
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Yeah.
It's been both.
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It's a combination of the two.
Like you've got fourth and six.
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With eight seconds left and
you've got your your Hail Mary
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team out there and they do
exactly what you think they're
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going to do.
They throw a quick out, get out
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of bounds, seven and a half
yards.
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Now, all of a sudden 259 ER
becomes a 51 and they roll out
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there fucking Rambo kicker and
he Nails it.
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Nell down the pike and I'm
surprised that no one was in his
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ear.
To change that call.
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Because true apparently, no one
else knew the situation, just
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like him.
I just, it baffles me that.
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I mean, we deserve to lose based
on those two calls those who
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called headlong, and that's
after the clown show of coaching
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that we did up to that point.
That's true, it's very true
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because you sit here and you sit
at, and I'm sitting here, it's a
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59 yarder.
I mean, think time that I'm
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like, this is a six-year feel
this guy's They're doing this by
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chance.
He kit has the kick of his life
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of his life and he Nails it.
I'll just sit there and said
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cool because if he misses it
you're sitting here and you've
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got your going to because that's
a 59-yard or that's from the 39.
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You actually have a chance to
run one play downfield.
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Like, don't waste time out.
Screw you didn't use it early
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enough again.
I mean, we did a good job.
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That we actually today, stop
them on third or fourth down
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because those some bitches all
damn day.
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Brian.
I mean, we're I'm you're looking
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here and you're kind of like, we
talked about it.
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How big of a key it is that
we've got to start getting
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stuff.
We didn't get any motherfuckin
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stops today.
We get none.
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Basically Braun the team today.
They were 10 of 17, on third and
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fourth down.
I'd like to be 10 of Nineteen,
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we were 6 of 12. so, you sit
here and it's just like, again,
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the whole question is, Your
point, the best coach.
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He's going to put the best on
the field.
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If you look at the way that was
set up, it was a perfect inside
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a little move.
The two outside guys did not
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charge.
They literally got up and
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stopped because they're thought
wonders.
447
00:34:04,900 --> 00:34:08,900
If they block it, yes, we're
there to make the play.
448
00:34:09,300 --> 00:34:12,699
We're going to make and it was
set up.
449
00:34:12,699 --> 00:34:17,300
Well, they knew that from that
distance that the trajectory of
450
00:34:17,300 --> 00:34:19,199
the kick is going to be lower
than normal.
451
00:34:20,100 --> 00:34:22,600
So you need to get pressure up
the It's not going to be
452
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,800
something where you're to have
much success getting pressure on
453
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,800
the edge.
You have a lot more higher
454
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,699
probability of blocking it by
going up, the middle, Peru, it
455
00:34:31,699 --> 00:34:35,900
was perfectly done and returned
for a touchdown and then no, it
456
00:34:35,900 --> 00:34:41,500
wasn't at that point.
What little life I had after
457
00:34:41,500 --> 00:34:45,000
watching that game got sucked.
I was like we're losing this one
458
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,900
man and we deserve to your like
regardless what happens?
459
00:34:49,500 --> 00:34:53,199
I mean I was already at the
point after When they, when we
460
00:34:53,199 --> 00:34:56,500
had to give up a touchdown in
order to stay in this game, I
461
00:34:56,500 --> 00:34:58,500
was already at the point winter
lose.
462
00:34:59,500 --> 00:35:02,800
I'm railing about this thing.
And then that hat, like, so,
463
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:09,600
It's just like I was already
like past the point of this
464
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:13,000
being acceptable, you path.
We're going to rescue like
465
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,200
there's no rest.
Somebody pass that, but I would
466
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,000
have been happy that we won, but
I wouldn't have been happy about
467
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,400
how we won, and I would have
bitched about it to the end of
468
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,200
the Earth.
And then that happened.
469
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:28,100
So we get to do double bitching
here, which is not anything.
470
00:35:28,100 --> 00:35:31,100
I want to do, but I feel like
it's something we need to do.
471
00:35:31,100 --> 00:35:34,200
It's both therapeutic because we
get our feelings out.
472
00:35:34,700 --> 00:35:41,000
And we get to actually address
some of the things that are
473
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:45,800
going on that we think probably
long-term need to be looked at.
474
00:35:46,100 --> 00:35:50,400
It's true and Brawn you talk
about long-term and we've been
475
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:54,000
chewing on Thursdays podcast
that the pickup of Jaden Keller.
476
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:59,800
And and after what's happened
this year we're four and three,
477
00:36:00,500 --> 00:36:04,000
you know, North Carolina game we
can ride off to bad losses.
478
00:36:04,500 --> 00:36:07,900
You can't favor flirtation, you
can't.
479
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:14,100
And you don't think right now,
the big guy that it feels like
480
00:36:14,100 --> 00:36:18,800
that we might lose.
And it's kind of coming down
481
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,700
because he's getting more and
more interest.
482
00:36:20,700 --> 00:36:24,300
I don't know if this kid has
grown or just his tape has
483
00:36:24,300 --> 00:36:32,300
become more and more accessible.
I mean can and Bun is starting
484
00:36:32,300 --> 00:36:35,600
to pick up offers and more
interest from some of your big
485
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:42,000
dogs.
USC's, one of the big ones, you
486
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:46,100
don't think.
Beat be honest, bro.
487
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:52,500
Let me ask you this.
You are You know what?
488
00:36:52,500 --> 00:36:54,200
Let's go big, you're linking
Riley.
489
00:36:54,300 --> 00:36:58,300
You love Cannon boom as a left
tackle and he had offered him
490
00:36:58,300 --> 00:37:01,800
yet but you see link, you see
Cannon bun.
491
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,900
What he does.
You see his body type?
492
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,100
He do good in Oklahoma probably
right.
493
00:37:07,900 --> 00:37:12,000
We think Lincoln Riley and their
coaching staff is walking in and
494
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:16,800
him they're saying we might lose
one or two games.
495
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,100
A year in the team that you have
committed to is losing to
496
00:37:20,100 --> 00:37:24,700
Liberty.
I mean right now let's go a step
497
00:37:24,700 --> 00:37:28,800
further than that, alright?
Right now to G5 schools in our
498
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:38,500
own State can - recruit has mmm.
True on top of that.
499
00:37:39,500 --> 00:37:44,200
Recent history are two closest
ACC division Rivals can -
500
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,100
recruit us.
We ain't even see.
501
00:37:47,900 --> 00:37:55,900
Yep.
It's a - Barrel because right
502
00:37:55,900 --> 00:38:02,700
now, the way we've looked is
it's bad on the paper cuz when
503
00:38:02,700 --> 00:38:05,500
you ask the kid wants to go play
for four and three school,
504
00:38:05,500 --> 00:38:09,600
that's losing the G5 schools
that can't get their shit
505
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,800
together.
That it comes look in depth on
506
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,700
offense that defensively.
What the fuck are you trying to
507
00:38:16,700 --> 00:38:18,800
do?
Yeah, it's easy.
508
00:38:19,500 --> 00:38:24,400
It's easy to - recruiters right
now, so fucking easy and then
509
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,300
you talk about the Baylor
flirtation and you know, some
510
00:38:27,300 --> 00:38:30,100
people say now well he ain't
gonna never get another Jeep.
511
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,900
Another P5 job if he gets fired
from Tech.
512
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:38,400
Yeah, but kids can't see that
kids.
513
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,000
See?
Why don't, why was he thinking
514
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,800
about leaving all?
She's thinking about leaving and
515
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:47,500
going down there.
You know, it's different when
516
00:38:47,500 --> 00:38:50,600
you're 18 because we've been A
team of four and me and Brian
517
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,500
actually had some funny
conversations because the night
518
00:38:54,100 --> 00:38:55,600
looks like the lights are off.
Now, Brian.
519
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,300
I think they just had a few
people over.
520
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:05,300
Maybe they heard me following
almost this close to being like
521
00:39:05,300 --> 00:39:13,700
y'all out of town to Pops a
little Rowdy over there.
522
00:39:13,700 --> 00:39:15,800
Huh?
Well I can hear them.
523
00:39:15,900 --> 00:39:18,700
No, not Rowdy.
Those kids couldn't be rowdy.
524
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,200
They're they're too nice, a kid,
man.
525
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:28,700
They're not, they're not 17 and
18 years old where we were wild
526
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,200
for, can get out and do what a
bunch of stupid shit.
527
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:38,000
Although I think about the way
that's Robbie's boy, you see
528
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,300
that?
Yeah.
529
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:44,800
For now, good for him live
again, guys, live podcasting,
530
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,800
Cornell pal, 17, for Clemson,
who was recruited.
531
00:39:48,900 --> 00:39:57,200
Goodbye, Virginia Tech.
Our friend, Robbie actually
532
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,900
coached him in high school.
Robbie has met Frank.
533
00:40:00,900 --> 00:40:05,900
He's met but he's met Robbie is
probably met more D1,
534
00:40:05,900 --> 00:40:10,300
Collegiate, football coaches
than most people.
535
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:18,100
So he's the sort of guy I'm sure
that has heard - recruiting
536
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:34,600
Those coaches are here.
It's true.
537
00:40:34,700 --> 00:40:36,300
It's true.
It's true.
538
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:42,300
So you know, it's one of those
things you just sit here and
539
00:40:42,300 --> 00:40:48,400
it's just That's a touchdown.
That's the first play, by the
540
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:55,600
way, I wish one day in my
dreams, see my old NCAA games
541
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,200
when you're starting quarterback
goes down.
542
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,700
Who's the 99?
The 98 comes in to replace him,
543
00:41:08,100 --> 00:41:15,000
man.
I mean, you used to You can
544
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,400
pretty much load up attribute
points across the board, but
545
00:41:19,300 --> 00:41:21,900
they finally said, hey, we're
not going to be able to allow
546
00:41:21,900 --> 00:41:24,000
that because, you know, well
guess what?
547
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,700
They need.
If they come from, you can't
548
00:41:26,300 --> 00:41:29,300
change your fucking format
because clearly, if you're a
549
00:41:29,500 --> 00:41:32,900
elite level School, the number
one quarterback, even with
550
00:41:32,900 --> 00:41:35,600
someone in front of him for a
couple of years will likely I
551
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,500
yeah, I'm it there.
That church money, man.
552
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,600
Who's that always talks about
the church money?
553
00:41:47,500 --> 00:41:50,400
Yeah.
Okey pharmacist.
554
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,000
Shout-out hokey, pharmacist for
Hunger.
555
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:59,900
Funny tweets about the church.
Fundage for the Clemson Tigers.
556
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,100
But it's true.
It's damn.
557
00:42:03,100 --> 00:42:12,000
True actually should be the
running back for my 49ers and
558
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,500
all the stuff he does.
Good folks.
559
00:42:15,500 --> 00:42:19,600
If y'all can y'all not tell that
we were few drinks deep I don't
560
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:23,700
know I don't I feel the shot for
we started tonight just I
561
00:42:23,700 --> 00:42:26,600
haven't drank all day because in
baseball come in and watch the
562
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,900
game, I have to do some things
afterwards.
563
00:42:28,900 --> 00:42:32,700
I have to go up in my attic
where 75 degree day in the Attic
564
00:42:32,700 --> 00:42:38,100
turns. 95 you doubted me more
face for certain things.
565
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,000
Yeah, I started with beer during
the game.
566
00:42:42,900 --> 00:42:47,200
We did records mere dinner
breakfast for dinner, had eggs,
567
00:42:47,300 --> 00:42:54,000
bacon and sausage, gravy and
biscuits and have had some
568
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:58,900
mimosas with dinner.
It back to beer.
569
00:43:01,100 --> 00:43:02,600
Lord Rama is like you were on a
date.
570
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,300
I'm going to assume right?
Hold on.
571
00:43:06,300 --> 00:43:10,300
Let me assume you do not smash
beers from 12 till dinner.
572
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:16,200
Now, I wasn't pounding today.
This is more of a II things
573
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:17,600
going on.
So I was drinking beer while I
574
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,500
was doing stuff.
Watching the game throwing stuff
575
00:43:20,500 --> 00:43:24,700
at the television, you know, we
Simpson, this is an old-school
576
00:43:24,700 --> 00:43:28,900
Because by the way, believe it
or not, in Brian, and I younger
577
00:43:28,900 --> 00:43:31,000
days if you had told me, well,
Brian started.
578
00:43:31,100 --> 00:43:34,600
Making beer at lunch, he drank
beers all afternoon and then he
579
00:43:34,607 --> 00:43:36,900
started pounding, mimosas at
dinnertime.
580
00:43:36,900 --> 00:43:38,000
And then he switched back to
beard.
581
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:45,300
Be like and yo what y'all should
grow is one time.
582
00:43:46,500 --> 00:43:51,800
Well, story of remember that
time me your roommate and Dom.
583
00:43:52,900 --> 00:43:55,200
Yep.
And the cooler.
584
00:43:56,200 --> 00:44:05,000
Oh yeah. 2002, I think it was
three.
585
00:44:06,100 --> 00:44:10,500
I think it was 3, 2003.
Basically you're playing those
586
00:44:10,500 --> 00:44:12,700
years because I'm not at
Longwood yet.
587
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,600
Now we can do.
Here's for y'all as Warfarin
588
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:16,900
back home.
Dog in a little while.
589
00:44:16,900 --> 00:44:22,100
But basically, we're like, 14
can make some fucking jungle
590
00:44:22,100 --> 00:44:24,300
juice.
We've got a cooler here.
591
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:29,800
Brian has obviously someone 21
on his team and his roommates a
592
00:44:29,808 --> 00:44:33,000
here, let's do this shit.
Shout out Jaybird.
593
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:41,000
He was, he was my go-to.
Fast motherfucker to right?
594
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,800
Oh yeah.
But anyway, we decided to go
595
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:51,200
make a damn vat of jungle juice
in a fucking cooler and take it
596
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:56,700
over to Brian's athletic house.
I don't still try to remember,
597
00:44:56,700 --> 00:44:59,800
because we're sitting in your
room for what, probably two
598
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,800
hours.
Just fucking pounding beers.
599
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:08,900
Here's our Theory.
So we were like, you know, we
600
00:45:08,900 --> 00:45:14,900
already have this liquor.
We could go to the party, wait
601
00:45:14,900 --> 00:45:18,900
in line for drinks, or we could
bring this cooler stash it
602
00:45:18,900 --> 00:45:22,100
somewhere and just go and refill
at our Leisure.
603
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:28,600
So we said yes we will carry
this cooler halfway across
604
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:32,600
campus in order to have
unlimited refills for the night.
605
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:37,200
Pretty much But getting an
across can this because it was
606
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:41,700
like a 22 mile hike.
We had lived across the football
607
00:45:41,700 --> 00:45:50,200
field and into frat Circle which
It can be a nightmare and then
608
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,600
up the hill to where the TAC
house was.
609
00:45:52,600 --> 00:46:00,500
So, ultimately, ultimately, we
got, it was an interesting night
610
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:04,100
and we drank all of it.
She just about all of it.
611
00:46:04,100 --> 00:46:06,200
I'm pretty sure there wasn't a
whole lot.
612
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:22,700
Well, I'm sure we gave some
girls and we're trying to get
613
00:46:22,700 --> 00:46:32,800
some girls and a fifth and then
a mix in this massive.
614
00:46:32,900 --> 00:46:37,400
A it's like we're having to walk
a who I know domme had a carry
615
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,400
it because being you set we meet
you.
616
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,900
And Brian were very intelligent
about that we sat there and
617
00:46:42,900 --> 00:46:47,300
Saddam you gotta carry this shit
across campus and because Damas,
618
00:46:47,300 --> 00:46:49,500
21.
Because if you can call it what
619
00:46:49,500 --> 00:46:52,600
they can't see Jack shit.
We get caught with it.
620
00:46:53,100 --> 00:46:58,300
Well, you and brown wouldn't go
to jail our good because I
621
00:46:58,308 --> 00:47:02,400
didn't go to Cindy was a
different Beast though, back
622
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,400
then, like, it was so
hit-or-miss.
623
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,900
Like sometimes, like, especially
during like, Greek week or
624
00:47:08,900 --> 00:47:12,100
something.
Oh, good wolf across campus, and
625
00:47:12,100 --> 00:47:16,300
it was just a free-for-all like
whatever you did, you know.
626
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:21,100
It is what it is but on random
nights, like they would be like
627
00:47:21,100 --> 00:47:26,300
yeah, you got to pour it out.
And after we spent that much
628
00:47:26,300 --> 00:47:28,800
money in that much time and
we're hauling it halfway across
629
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,300
campus.
We were not risking it.
630
00:47:31,300 --> 00:47:35,000
Getting poured out know, we
weren't a lot of time.
631
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,700
This is going to be labeled
reminiscing.
632
00:47:45,700 --> 00:47:47,900
Yeah.
Again for y'all who might be
633
00:47:47,900 --> 00:47:49,700
first-time listener for y'all?
Listen.
634
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:52,600
Me and Brad Siegel have known
each other.
635
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:56,900
Since middle school.
I'm 37 Brian's 36.
636
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,700
We've known each other more than
20 years.
637
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,400
This is just one of many
stories.
638
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:08,500
So, and we've done some dumb
shit around each other.
639
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:10,500
Some things will not be
mentioned.
640
00:48:12,300 --> 00:48:15,100
Maybe our wives are the only
other people that know it if
641
00:48:15,100 --> 00:48:17,300
they weren't there.
That's probably it.
642
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:23,000
So, anyway, run again, -
recruiting is going to be alive
643
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,000
for us and there's gonna be some
guys like Cannon Boonies.
644
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:30,800
Starting to get the interest,
probably DJ Harvey more than a
645
00:48:30,808 --> 00:48:33,000
few other.
Guys, are going to get that push
646
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:39,500
from potentially bigger schools.
And you know, we sit here and we
647
00:48:39,500 --> 00:48:45,500
know the coaching staff Is what
it is in Brian.
648
00:48:45,700 --> 00:48:53,900
Let me ask this.
Your Justin Fuente, just some
649
00:48:53,900 --> 00:48:55,200
lives out.
Next to the golf course.
650
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,800
We know that we've heard that
before, he's going to wake up
651
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,000
tomorrow morning.
You got to go in Sunday's a prep
652
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:01,400
day for them.
Obviously.
653
00:49:03,500 --> 00:49:05,800
He's going to, I can't remember
exactly where it is, but I'm
654
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:09,400
going to assume for 60 60 and
he's turning to merryman.
655
00:49:09,500 --> 00:49:12,400
He's on parking at parking lot
where you can see Lane Stadium.
656
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:19,400
She score Boise drill field, you
see all that fun stuff, and he's
657
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,400
a long to his office and he's on
that door up.
658
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:26,400
He's going to sit down.
It's probably about 6 or 7 a.m.
659
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,900
Brian your him.
What do you do tomorrow?
660
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:34,300
Because unless he's an idiot,
what you might be?
661
00:49:36,100 --> 00:49:37,800
He know.
Yeah, yeah.
662
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:43,000
I don't think he's an idiot in
the terms of reading people, but
663
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:47,300
I think he knows that this loss
has probably pissed.
664
00:49:47,300 --> 00:49:50,400
The fan base off his lot and
potentially lost his team, a
665
00:49:50,400 --> 00:50:04,200
little bit, a little bit.
Is controlled by someone else
666
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:11,500
but if I'm him, I am evaluating
myself and my staff to a degree
667
00:50:11,500 --> 00:50:14,600
that I've never done this far in
my career.
668
00:50:15,700 --> 00:50:21,600
I'm taking a long hard look at
situational play calling.
669
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:25,000
I'm taking a long hard look at
the preparation that we have.
670
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:29,400
And why we are consistently
having poor starts against
671
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,000
inferior competition and then
having to play either from
672
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:36,300
behind or neck and neck with
these companies with these
673
00:50:36,500 --> 00:50:42,000
opponents.
I'm looking at why we don't have
674
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,100
the energy on the sidelines and
who in the coaching staff?
675
00:50:45,300 --> 00:50:49,400
Laugh.
Can bring some more juice.
676
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,100
I'm looking at who we have in
the booth and who we have on the
677
00:50:53,107 --> 00:50:55,300
sideline.
Okay.
678
00:50:56,400 --> 00:51:00,900
I'm taking a look at changing
play called duties on offense.
679
00:51:02,700 --> 00:51:06,300
Well, bond me, and you have been
calling it for a while now,
680
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,100
we're not do this.
It's not a shocking thing.
681
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:15,300
Because today, it's the same,
it's the same All right, Mom,
682
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,200
it's the same shit.
It's not the entire game.
683
00:51:18,300 --> 00:51:22,700
It's I to say this, Believe It
or Not Berlin from bronstein
684
00:51:22,700 --> 00:51:25,300
spring break, or Nielsen is
actually want to fucking Step
685
00:51:25,300 --> 00:51:29,800
Up.
Or Scott loffler or my cocaine
686
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,200
Hood.
But called please back in and
687
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,300
y'all, I'm almost tempted, like
Brian by the way.
688
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:40,100
You know, I had a shot before
hand looking like over there and
689
00:51:40,100 --> 00:51:50,000
just about nine again, but it is
a step up what it is now.
690
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:55,000
And I think maybe if we Maybe if
we weren't for Virginia Tech
691
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:58,500
fans and we didn't pay
attention, we wouldn't notice
692
00:51:58,500 --> 00:52:00,200
it.
What it is now is the
693
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:05,600
situational terrible ass calls
today, and we mentioned it
694
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:12,300
earlier was at the end of the
first half, You don't run a
695
00:52:12,300 --> 00:52:17,300
fade, you run the fucking ball
because that is your strength.
696
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:21,300
If they stop you grate it angled
take eight fucking seconds, run
697
00:52:21,300 --> 00:52:23,400
a ball, you call your damn time
at you got to put you feel, you
698
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,300
know.
But here's the thing about that,
699
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,400
you get in the end zone, you're
up 10 in the momentum is
700
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,600
completely shifted.
Their down two scores, not one
701
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:35,300
the other one and Brian, this
pissed you off and you're
702
00:52:35,300 --> 00:52:39,200
sitting here and you're telling
me unless you're fucking going
703
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,200
for it with them.
Fuck, are you doing calling
704
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:41,700
that?
Play.
705
00:52:43,100 --> 00:52:45,100
Are you talking about the
quarterback lead on third down
706
00:52:45,100 --> 00:52:47,400
and six?
Yes.
707
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:53,700
The one we just got.
Yeah so if you were not going to
708
00:52:53,700 --> 00:52:59,100
go for it on fourth down, you do
not call that play. in that
709
00:52:59,100 --> 00:53:07,300
situation, because They knew the
defense was hurting at this
710
00:53:07,300 --> 00:53:09,400
point.
They knew it.
711
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:12,500
They had consistently not been
able to get off the field unless
712
00:53:12,500 --> 00:53:14,300
they were forcing attorney.
Yep.
713
00:53:15,100 --> 00:53:20,200
So you've got to have in your
mind that you need to get a
714
00:53:20,207 --> 00:53:22,100
first down.
Yep.
715
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:26,400
And if you want to get a first
down, its third down, and six,
716
00:53:27,100 --> 00:53:29,000
you got a call to play to get
you the first down.
717
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,300
And if you don't call a play,
that's going to definitely get
718
00:53:31,300 --> 00:53:33,800
your first down, you've got to
have in your mind that you're
719
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:41,500
going for it on Fourth. and, You
know, we've talked about it in a
720
00:53:41,508 --> 00:53:46,000
lot of the games this year, we
consistently leave points on the
721
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:50,300
field when we're having good
drives.
722
00:53:50,700 --> 00:53:53,400
Yep.
And we did it again.
723
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:58,400
Today, between the drive just
before half the drive were
724
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:04,600
discussing here and then you
couple that with opening the
725
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:11,900
game and then opening the second
half with Just execution flaws
726
00:54:11,900 --> 00:54:16,600
in a couple calls here or there
that were questionable that gave
727
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:20,100
that offense the ball back
really quickly so they could
728
00:54:20,100 --> 00:54:24,300
score.
I mean, you can put those things
729
00:54:24,300 --> 00:54:26,400
together.
It's problematic, man, it's
730
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,800
problematic.
It's been a family problem at
731
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:34,000
it, you know, the other piece is
especially with the, you know,
732
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,100
the opening drive.
And it's again, it's why it's a
733
00:54:36,100 --> 00:54:41,500
step up from where we were the
Play on like third and 7 of that
734
00:54:41,500 --> 00:54:45,300
open and drivers right.
Play, that was a poor excuse it
735
00:54:45,300 --> 00:54:49,200
wasn't, it was a poor executed
play, because if he hits cable
736
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:52,400
Smith, you looked at that.
Play, after I told you, we
737
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,500
talked about it.
If he had set play, the Caleb,
738
00:54:54,700 --> 00:54:57,600
Caleb has 20 yards because
that's always vacated.
739
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:01,300
Because we essentially, we
essentially ran off to safety
740
00:55:01,300 --> 00:55:03,100
when out the corner from that
spot.
741
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:07,300
But the issue is, it's always
the worst times.
742
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,700
And somebody say, well, if it's
the worst times and you're not
743
00:55:10,700 --> 00:55:14,200
in a good position when the game
anyway, well for years upon
744
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:17,500
years, we saw it times where it
was just bad play calling all
745
00:55:17,500 --> 00:55:20,500
around.
So again, we put the Step Up
746
00:55:20,500 --> 00:55:24,000
where it's probably 85% the
plays are okay.
747
00:55:24,100 --> 00:55:28,900
But what we see and again, what
we see is fans and what you see
748
00:55:28,900 --> 00:55:34,400
is a person who played is the
plays that are W terrible calls
749
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:38,600
are at the worst times if people
called her, what, at the at the
750
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:43,900
opportune times, then it's okay.
Sometimes you sometimes the best
751
00:55:43,900 --> 00:55:47,200
offensive play callers.
You see in the country and on
752
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:50,500
the NFL, they'll do that shit.
Just to make you make.
753
00:55:50,500 --> 00:55:52,700
You think about it, right?
Like, you got to think about
754
00:55:52,700 --> 00:55:55,600
this because I'll do that when
y'all are thinking thinking
755
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:59,300
about it, no doubt man.
And I think another thing that
756
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:05,300
we need to look at is you know,
we talk about the situational
757
00:56:06,300 --> 00:56:12,200
awareness feel like is always
lacking but you know, sometimes
758
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:21,200
I just don't feel like we have a
plan. and that we like, for
759
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:25,500
example, first play of the game
is a jet Suite.
760
00:56:26,700 --> 00:56:29,300
I still like that that right
there.
761
00:56:29,300 --> 00:56:35,200
Just felt like Okay, this is
what we're doing this, this is
762
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:37,800
what we're doing.
They just March the fucking ball
763
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:42,900
down the field and scored on us.
And your first call is a jet
764
00:56:42,900 --> 00:56:49,200
Suite.
How many Curtis if, if there's
765
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:54,700
two plays that as a defensive
coordinator for Liberty, if I'm
766
00:56:54,700 --> 00:56:58,300
sitting making a game plan of
say, what, what should I need to
767
00:56:58,300 --> 00:57:01,200
take away?
Or what does this all offensive
768
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:05,100
tendency?
Give me two plays that would
769
00:57:05,100 --> 00:57:06,800
that they would think to take
away now.
770
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:08,900
I'm not many.
It's outside Zone yet, please.
771
00:57:10,300 --> 00:57:11,800
Okay.
So either.
772
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:29,000
Hey, listen, hey,
that would sit out there and
773
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:33,700
say, you know what I'm gonna do
We're going to run Jet Sweep
774
00:57:33,700 --> 00:57:36,300
fake.
And you what I'm going to do,
775
00:57:36,300 --> 00:57:37,500
I'm either going to run a
quarterback.
776
00:57:37,500 --> 00:57:41,800
Sweep on the opposite side or or
if you're really fucking
777
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:43,900
creative you're really fun.
Creative.
778
00:57:44,900 --> 00:57:46,900
We're gonna run this.
Fake Jets will eat tendons.
779
00:57:46,900 --> 00:57:48,400
Go wrong.
Like he's going to run.
780
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,900
I'm going to let the left the
tight end and the left tackle
781
00:57:51,900 --> 00:57:53,800
sweep out.
I'm gonna throw a damn screen
782
00:57:54,100 --> 00:57:56,100
and there's not going to be
anybody on that side of the
783
00:57:56,100 --> 00:57:57,800
field.
Yep.
784
00:57:59,100 --> 00:58:01,000
Right.
And I mean we we ran our
785
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:05,300
quarterback to death today and
that bothered me too just
786
00:58:05,300 --> 00:58:10,300
because it's effective, like
he's the quarterback, the entire
787
00:58:10,300 --> 00:58:15,000
offense runs through him, he
can't just keep slamming him
788
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:19,600
into the defense, the entire
game and what bothers me more
789
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,800
than that is that it's almost
like our play.
790
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:29,200
Caller does not trust Blackshear
or Holston to get Yards for them
791
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:32,200
and no point.
Did our offensive coordinator?
792
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:35,200
Do anything to get them
comfortable in the game plan
793
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:38,600
today.
It was all well, we don't have
794
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:44,800
Herbert a couple early plays to
our running backs were - despite
795
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,600
one of them being on the
coordinator for calling a
796
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:54,400
dumbass reverse when we didn't.
We weren't really at that point
797
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:58,000
yet we're that type of play call
should come into play and then
798
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:02,300
it gets blown up and then you
completely go away from your
799
00:59:02,300 --> 00:59:06,700
running backs until the drive
just before half-time and Then
800
00:59:06,700 --> 00:59:09,500
you come out in the second half
and he really kind of go away
801
00:59:09,500 --> 00:59:12,800
from them more or less.
Again, I think we had one or two
802
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:16,300
drives where we finally got
Blackshear involved getting some
803
00:59:16,300 --> 00:59:20,700
carries there in the second half
but It was kind of too little,
804
00:59:20,700 --> 00:59:23,100
too late, like the running backs
never got in Rhythm.
805
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:27,800
And the quarterbacks, the
quarterback ended up having to
806
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:30,100
put the entire damn offense on
his back.
807
00:59:30,800 --> 01:00:30,400
And he did if he did, did he
And it seems like we've seen him
808
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:36,000
three yards from him and make a
move and get 15 yards.
809
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:42,500
So you know, I think that's just
one of those weird things Brian
810
01:00:42,500 --> 01:00:45,800
but I won't say this run.
You talk about what and I bring
811
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,900
I want the question to you.
What does he do?
812
01:00:48,900 --> 01:00:52,800
Tomorrow morning get tomorrow
morning when I went that long
813
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:54,500
yet?
Yeah, not yet.
814
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:56,800
Yeah, but I cracked another
beer.
815
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:59,300
If you didn't hear it all I've
walked over to the beer fridge
816
01:00:59,300 --> 01:01:02,500
there cuz I'm going to
eventually probably be smashed
817
01:01:02,500 --> 01:01:04,500
when I go upstairs and my wife's
been probably kick me or
818
01:01:04,500 --> 01:01:07,300
something or little ones in the
wake up at 4 and I'm not going
819
01:01:07,300 --> 01:01:10,000
to be able to go back to Leaps,
I'm just going to wake up drunk.
820
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:28,400
Hey
everybody.
821
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:42,500
I don't think so.
We did so well for so many years
822
01:01:42,700 --> 01:01:47,500
into our a modernized defense
that can help protect the face
823
01:01:47,500 --> 01:01:51,700
mask that can help prevent huge
scores quickly.
824
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:55,800
It's going to be things like
that, that are going to happen.
825
01:01:56,300 --> 01:02:03,000
So, you know, I can't put any of
the blame on those guys, but
826
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:34,100
then I said,
Entire staff and say you've got
827
01:02:34,100 --> 01:02:42,800
to do this. so if your if your
wit are you looking at making a
828
01:02:42,808 --> 01:02:48,400
change, Oh, head coaching laws?
Yes.
829
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:54,000
Oh god.
Well, bra know I said it a
830
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:57,200
couple weeks ago that my, my
confidence in the head coach had
831
01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:01,600
faded and it's still there.
The confidence is still faded.
832
01:03:05,100 --> 01:03:08,000
and I think what it's even more
after today, is the light at the
833
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:16,800
end of the tunnel where in 2016
We legitimately felt like this
834
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:19,400
is we got the right guy, we've
got the right system.
835
01:03:20,100 --> 01:03:22,200
We're going to compete with
Clemson and a few years.
836
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:26,700
Once everybody's here. 2017, it
didn't change.
837
01:03:27,700 --> 01:03:31,100
It didn't.
Yeah, and even in 2018, with all
838
01:03:31,100 --> 01:03:34,200
that stuff, while we're playing
a lot of young guys, last year,
839
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:37,900
it came down, but then Henning,
kind of brought it back up.
840
01:03:38,700 --> 01:03:51,100
But after that two losses this
year is like Honestly, I said, I
841
01:03:51,100 --> 01:03:53,800
feel like God's telling us he's
not the right person.
842
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:00,200
Yeah.
I mean,
843
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:18,900
Consistently playing for ACC
championships.
844
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:22,900
I'm not saying we have to be
Clemson, I'd like to get there
845
01:04:22,900 --> 01:04:26,400
but I'm not saying we have to be
that but we need to be at least
846
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:30,000
what we were kind of in the
Logan Thomas years.
847
01:04:30,900 --> 01:04:34,800
Okay specially especially the
David Wilson Logan Thomas you,
848
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:39,600
okay.
We need to be there if we're not
849
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:42,900
there consistently to me.
That's a problem.
850
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:46,200
And now I don't think
necessarily it's one thing.
851
01:04:46,300 --> 01:04:49,100
Or another.
But, you know, everyone in the
852
01:04:49,100 --> 01:04:52,400
offseason and everyone
especially with what the 2020
853
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:55,800
class looked like was bitching
about the recruiting.
854
01:04:56,300 --> 01:04:59,400
I don't like the recruiting
either, but I would much rather
855
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:02,200
have bad recruiting than the
shit that we had that happen
856
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:03,800
today.
Yep.
857
01:05:04,300 --> 01:05:06,800
And I don't necessarily think
one is byproduct of the other
858
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:10,400
because regardless of the
recruiting we had better overall
859
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:14,200
players on the field today and
we did not play them in a
860
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:16,200
whether its execution by the
players.
861
01:05:16,300 --> 01:05:18,000
Hers, or the coach is putting
them in place.
862
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,000
We did not play well enough to
win that game.
863
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:22,800
We didn't know and that's a
coaching thing and that's a
864
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:25,600
coaching piece that has nothing
to do with recruiting notes.
865
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:29,600
Oh, It's not just the recruiting
that were pointing the finger at
866
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:33,600
here.
I can live with a top 30 class.
867
01:05:34,700 --> 01:05:38,600
If we're over playing that hand,
you can't live with this shit.
868
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:41,100
When you're when you're putting
guys in horrible parking
869
01:05:41,100 --> 01:05:45,400
positions making guys do things
they shouldn't fucking do.
870
01:05:45,900 --> 01:05:48,800
Yeah.
And then again there's no
871
01:05:48,900 --> 01:05:52,600
there's no excuse for a team
with the talent that we have to
872
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:55,100
lose to Liberty.
And to lose to wake this season.
873
01:05:55,500 --> 01:05:58,100
It's true.
Now that's that's, that's where
874
01:05:58,100 --> 01:06:02,100
I'm at.
So, where I'm at is that If
875
01:06:02,100 --> 01:06:06,300
someone said, if someone is
looking at moving on from when I
876
01:06:06,308 --> 01:06:11,000
would say, I'm fine with that
but but I'll throw with caveat
877
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:15,300
in there.
Problems are not just going to
878
01:06:15,300 --> 01:06:17,900
go away with the new head coach.
Nope.
879
01:06:17,900 --> 01:06:30,100
Because for the last few months.
Yes.
880
01:06:36,100 --> 01:06:39,700
Where our expectations are in
where our investments.
881
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:45,600
So, I'm with everyone that if
everyone wants to fire Fuente
882
01:06:45,700 --> 01:06:49,600
and that's what went back up,
decides to go with thumbs up,
883
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:54,000
okay.
But I need to see a plan both
884
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:57,700
from who you going to hire how
much you going to pay them?
885
01:06:57,900 --> 01:07:00,800
Are you going to pay enough to
actually get a higher?
886
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:05,400
That is worthy to change coaches
for and once you get them in the
887
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:08,200
damn building, are you going to
invest in the program enough for
888
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:12,900
them to have success?
I think that's a reasonable
889
01:07:12,900 --> 01:07:15,400
request if you're going to make
the choice to fire a coach
890
01:07:15,900 --> 01:07:18,600
because if you don't have a damn
game plan of what happens next,
891
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:23,200
I mean, we have to recalibrate
our expectations, we might as
892
01:07:23,207 --> 01:07:57,500
well, let him go out.
So it's crazy but no bra.
893
01:07:57,500 --> 01:09:20,300
No, I'm with you.
he was, but
894
01:09:36,300 --> 01:10:34,800
students have said,
But still great.
895
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:37,700
Fucking that's what college
football, I'm stopping right
896
01:10:37,700 --> 01:10:39,000
now.
That's what college football's
897
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:46,900
about that.
That for folks, it is 11:44 on
898
01:10:46,900 --> 01:10:49,600
the East Coast.
That is what college football is
899
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:52,200
all about.
You rush to feel when you take
900
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:59,600
down number one, you rush it.
You gotta love the energy, man.
901
01:10:59,700 --> 01:11:16,500
You gotta love it.
There is no emotion, like that.
902
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:20,200
Professional football.
There's no prevention like that.
903
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:23,200
In just about any for both, the
exception of March Madness.
904
01:11:23,700 --> 01:11:26,900
There's not.
If and we have been in that
905
01:11:26,900 --> 01:11:34,200
dude, in Leeds, we have been in
that, that's what makes this
906
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:37,400
sport in my opinion.
And if you're a professional
907
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:40,400
football 101 because a fantasy
because of all that, that's
908
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:42,700
fine.
You're seeing the elite of the
909
01:11:42,700 --> 01:11:46,700
elite.
Do a sport that's great, but
910
01:11:46,700 --> 01:11:49,900
that right there and you're
seeing it right now, the green,
911
01:11:49,900 --> 01:11:51,800
right?
The Green Way up.
912
01:11:52,200 --> 01:12:56,800
Oh yeah you don't see that.
Regardless of
913
01:13:08,900 --> 01:13:12,100
how you feel about this years
ago and I can't find the clip.
914
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:15,800
And I wish you could be out
there by the way, give him
915
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:17,500
credit.
I'm seeing more masking that
916
01:13:17,500 --> 01:14:12,800
crowd than expected.
The hedges.
917
01:14:14,700 --> 01:14:18,000
When we started this podcast,
it's a Virginia Tech podcast.
918
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:19,600
It is a college football
podcast.
919
01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:21,600
So that's why we do different
games every week.
920
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:27,900
And if you set in any of those
stadiums, and I've got a list.
921
01:14:28,300 --> 01:14:31,800
The cocktail party was today.
I want to get in that at least
922
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:37,100
one time before I die, because
apparently literally die because
923
01:14:37,100 --> 01:14:40,400
it's nuts and they don't break
out in fist fights.
924
01:14:41,100 --> 01:14:44,000
But that's what it's all about
in.
925
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:46,800
I'm ready for next year and
hopefully this shit gets over
926
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:51,800
with me and you can get into
Lane stadium in Jump.
927
01:14:51,900 --> 01:14:54,700
Umph.
And uh, okay.
928
01:14:54,700 --> 01:15:00,700
IES Hokies and maybe just maybe
we can stick it in.
929
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:38,700
Well,
I'm not going to come here and
930
01:15:38,700 --> 01:15:41,200
you know what I'm going to do,
I'm going to go on social media
931
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:44,300
and say I wanted to come
Virginia Tech because the
932
01:15:44,300 --> 01:15:49,100
tradition of what Frank Beamer
built and what Bud Foster and
933
01:15:49,100 --> 01:15:53,000
that staff built those staffs in
the 90s 9019.
934
01:15:53,300 --> 01:15:55,800
I'm going to come here.
But you know what, he wouldn't
935
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:57,300
do anything to invest in
football.
936
01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:02,100
That's what I do if I want it.
Now brought on you said
937
01:16:02,100 --> 01:16:04,500
summerlee gonna have some have
some big dick.
938
01:16:04,500 --> 01:16:09,200
Energy to pull that off is only
probably a handful of guys that
939
01:16:09,500 --> 01:16:12,200
I think would want the job that
can pull some shit off like
940
01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:14,300
that.
It'll be interesting to see if
941
01:16:14,300 --> 01:16:22,000
we can Sweeten, the pot enough
booth on the direct compensation
942
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:27,500
side and on the program
investment side to make them
943
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:31,600
see.
Virginia Tech is the place they
944
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:36,000
want to be.
Obviously there's some alums
945
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:42,400
that I think would potentially
Look at it with a little softer
946
01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:45,600
side, especially from the direct
compensation perspective.
947
01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:51,900
It's true.
But I don't know if they will
948
01:16:51,900 --> 01:16:57,700
have the chops to pull off the
program investment side of the
949
01:16:57,700 --> 01:17:02,600
coin there.
Again, they might be able to,
950
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:07,300
it's just I feel like we need to
have that level of investment in
951
01:17:07,300 --> 01:17:11,700
Pride regardless of having a
coach coming come in and say
952
01:17:11,700 --> 01:17:15,500
this is what I need because at
this point they should fucking
953
01:17:15,500 --> 01:17:20,900
know and honestly Fuentes told
them he's not doing a good
954
01:17:20,900 --> 01:17:24,700
enough job of probably pushing
it but I think he's certainly
955
01:17:25,100 --> 01:17:27,900
told them.
I need this to be as successful
956
01:17:27,900 --> 01:17:33,100
as you want us to be and I think
honestly he does because he's
957
01:17:33,100 --> 01:17:34,700
not a natural.
Router.
958
01:17:35,300 --> 01:17:38,500
And he's not a guy that is
driving.
959
01:17:38,500 --> 01:17:43,200
A lot of direct donations based
on some of the product we put
960
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:50,600
out the last few years so he
does need All the help he can
961
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:54,600
get on the financial front,
whether it's, you know, new
962
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:58,100
facilities, whether it's actual
recruiting dollars, whether it's
963
01:17:58,100 --> 01:18:01,900
more money, for his staff, to
build that out.
964
01:18:01,900 --> 01:18:06,100
I still can't get over the like,
we couldn't come up 100K to get
965
01:18:06,100 --> 01:18:11,300
Odom, like that, that's still
blowing my mind.
966
01:18:12,500 --> 01:18:17,600
So.
You know, at some point, we need
967
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:22,800
to address everything.
I mean I know I definitely think
968
01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:28,300
coaching is a problem, but
coaching is also bearing the
969
01:18:28,300 --> 01:18:30,100
brunt of the scapegoat here as
well.
970
01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:35,700
So until we change a lot of
things about the program, I
971
01:18:35,700 --> 01:18:40,700
don't think that we're going to
see a significant bump in an
972
01:18:40,700 --> 01:18:44,700
output on the field.
That mean, that's just, that's
973
01:18:44,700 --> 01:18:52,500
just how I see it again.
But I want to see a plan that
974
01:18:52,500 --> 01:18:57,300
goes beyond, just bringing new
guy in, because I need to hear
975
01:18:57,300 --> 01:19:00,900
who that guy is going to be and
what the plan is to invest in
976
01:19:00,907 --> 01:19:03,200
the program.
So that person has success until
977
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:07,700
I hear that I'm still like, okay
well cool.
978
01:19:07,700 --> 01:19:12,200
But you know, if we hire another
guy and he ends up going 6 and 7
979
01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:13,800
are going, are we going to be
doing this again in?
980
01:19:13,900 --> 01:19:16,400
Years and that's what you don't
want to get into.
981
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:19,800
And I think maybe the thing
about Justin's olympe that
982
01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:22,300
happened in 2016.
If you had walked in and seeing
983
01:19:22,300 --> 01:19:26,500
what was going on behind the
scenes, it should have been day
984
01:19:26,500 --> 01:19:30,400
one pushing, we need these new
positions but he I don't think
985
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:32,500
he's that type of guy.
I think he felt like well
986
01:19:32,500 --> 01:19:34,200
they'll see it, they'll see it
right?
987
01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:36,900
They'll see that.
We're going to probably we're
988
01:19:36,900 --> 01:19:42,000
going to hit some hard times and
we did and now but it's more on
989
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:45,100
you as a leader.
Or as the coach of the football
990
01:19:45,100 --> 01:19:47,800
team, it's like we need x y z to
get there.
991
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:50,500
Yeah, we had a great first
season because we have some
992
01:19:50,500 --> 01:19:53,500
really good players here, but we
need X Y & Z to stay here.
993
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:58,200
And for him, unfortunately, it
took until 2020 January of 2020
994
01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:00,700
for all this to happen.
Chaos breaks out.
995
01:20:00,700 --> 01:20:05,600
You don't get to put the full
plan in place, and then somebody
996
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:09,900
Was it fish?
The be fish that made the point
997
01:20:09,900 --> 01:20:14,100
that he looked up that in 15
years ago we had one of the
998
01:20:14,100 --> 01:20:15,800
highest paid staffs in the
country.
999
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:18,600
And today, we're like 37.
I feel like you put that out
1000
01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:21,200
there a few weeks ago.
Yeah, I believe so.
1001
01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:24,400
I think you're right.
Shut up and Fish on Twitter
1002
01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:27,500
there.
Yeah, he talked about it and
1003
01:20:28,100 --> 01:20:30,400
let's go back and do a little
history lesson here.
1004
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:35,000
We've talked about it before
with Frank, Beamer having a
1005
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:40,100
flirtation with UNC Yeah, I'm
coming back and saying, you
1006
01:20:40,100 --> 01:20:43,600
know, if if you're going to keep
me, we need to do this and the
1007
01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:48,200
big part of that was paying.
But Foster paying the assistants
1008
01:20:48,700 --> 01:20:52,700
essentially being having one of
the highest if not be highs
1009
01:20:53,900 --> 01:20:59,400
assistant staff in the country,
you know, we move from that in
1010
01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:04,600
the mid-2000s to now, you know,
playing catch-up with like mid s
1011
01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:11,100
teams and we We are surprised
that the output on the field,
1012
01:21:11,100 --> 01:21:16,900
has dipped relative to, you
know, where those Staffing in
1013
01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:20,100
and recruiting dollars are being
spent.
1014
01:21:20,100 --> 01:21:24,800
So, like I said, I love the
energy that people have in terms
1015
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:28,700
of the passion about, you know,
this is unacceptable.
1016
01:21:28,700 --> 01:21:30,600
I'm right there with you.
This is unacceptable, what
1017
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:33,800
happened today is unacceptable
and it is a coaching problem and
1018
01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:38,600
I'm 100% with that.
But I think it's naive to think
1019
01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:42,000
that you can just hire any coach
and that's going to change.
1020
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:47,300
The situation is true, then it's
true and where we were 20 plus
1021
01:21:47,300 --> 01:21:51,500
years ago, was a different era
of college football, and it was
1022
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:53,900
the money was different.
And then when we were 15 years
1023
01:21:53,900 --> 01:21:58,700
ago, the money is different.
College football has become a
1024
01:21:58,708 --> 01:22:01,700
corporation and if you don't
want it like a corporation, you
1025
01:22:01,700 --> 01:22:07,500
will essentially fail.
And so far we haven't ran it
1026
01:22:07,500 --> 01:22:09,600
like Corporation in the last 10
years.
1027
01:22:09,900 --> 01:22:12,700
Where I hate to say this may be
because of dado came from
1028
01:22:12,700 --> 01:22:16,300
corporate real estate.
He saw it that's how he started
1029
01:22:16,300 --> 01:22:19,000
running it when he had hired 10
years ago and that's why they
1030
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:22,100
have been so successful and it's
not going to go back, folks,
1031
01:22:22,500 --> 01:22:24,900
you're not going to turn the
clock back and it's not going to
1032
01:22:24,900 --> 01:22:28,100
be like that anymore.
Those dance like there's a
1033
01:22:28,100 --> 01:22:31,900
bubble, man.
He's just waiting out the
1034
01:22:31,900 --> 01:22:54,800
bubble.
Do you know what that means?
1035
01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:01,700
Coming down for these TV
contract because it's even more
1036
01:23:01,700 --> 01:23:05,000
insane, right?
Yep.
1037
01:23:05,300 --> 01:23:12,600
I mean it's still going to be
more insane like last weekend.
1038
01:23:14,500 --> 01:23:17,000
Are you ready to hear this run?
Yep.
1039
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:22,200
Clemson pulled Clemson.
BC on ABC.
1040
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:43,400
But their biggest town in terms
of draw wasn't even playing in
1041
01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:47,200
the game and they pull those
numbers against a middling ACC
1042
01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:50,100
opponent.
So, guess what I'm saying and
1043
01:24:50,100 --> 01:24:51,900
there's no telling what the game
that we just watch
1044
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:09,200
the bubbles burst and whether
you want to fire just In Valente
1045
01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:12,000
tonight, which if somebody told
me and you today, that's going
1046
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:13,500
to happen.
We'd be like, okay, but who's
1047
01:25:13,500 --> 01:25:16,000
the next guy?
What spleen that should be the
1048
01:25:16,008 --> 01:25:17,800
question?
Not too much, who gets fired,
1049
01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:20,900
but what's the plan?
Because it's a lot of money to
1050
01:25:20,900 --> 01:25:23,000
buy him out.
Let me 50 Min,
1051
01:25:37,500 --> 01:25:41,300
but let me see what the plan is.
As long as long as
1052
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:56,000
someone's going to come in with
the salaries that were offering
1053
01:25:56,600 --> 01:26:00,000
in all of a sudden it's going to
be sunshine and Roses.
1054
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:04,500
So I'm definitely still
tempering my expectations if
1055
01:26:04,500 --> 01:26:30,300
that's the case.
Yeah, it's it.
1056
01:26:30,300 --> 01:26:32,600
You can't just have the right
guy.
1057
01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:35,200
It can't.
If that happens, it has to be
1058
01:26:35,300 --> 01:26:38,300
fucking perfect and that's not
going to happen more than
1059
01:26:38,300 --> 01:26:41,900
likely.
It's got to be a long-term plan
1060
01:26:42,200 --> 01:26:45,000
to say we're we were here.
Now we're here.
1061
01:26:45,300 --> 01:26:47,400
We're going to get back to hear
if you're hiring you back to
1062
01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:50,100
here.
And if that happens, yes, it's
1063
01:26:50,100 --> 01:26:51,800
potential to get back to where
we were.
1064
01:26:52,700 --> 01:27:25,200
Yeah.
you know, we're paying your top
1065
01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:29,900
40 money and we have top 20
expectations.
1066
01:27:31,500 --> 01:27:35,300
There's not a lot of and and
probably in terms of investment
1067
01:27:35,300 --> 01:27:39,200
in the whole program.
Maybe even top 50, there's not a
1068
01:27:39,208 --> 01:27:43,300
whole lot of coaches that are
going to see that and say, I
1069
01:27:43,308 --> 01:27:46,900
want to come here all the
benefits of blacks Burger worth
1070
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:56,100
the negatives that are.
So I feel like we definitely if
1071
01:27:56,100 --> 01:27:59,000
we keep seeing this like a
pretty much this point unless we
1072
01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:04,800
went out, you know, I think this
year has been subpar
1073
01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:08,400
unacceptable in terms of of
where I thought we would be.
1074
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:11,600
And what I thought we would do
and where we would end up is the
1075
01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:19,600
only thing that saves this year
is because if went still feels
1076
01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:23,300
confident, as I cannot think of
the guy's name who was under
1077
01:28:23,300 --> 01:28:27,600
Frank back in.
We got lost a job in 95 or he
1078
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:31,400
couldn't 95.
If he doesn't come out and say I
1079
01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:33,100
think this is more covid than
anything.
1080
01:28:33,100 --> 01:28:38,000
I think it was so funky.
I think it was so fucked up that
1081
01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:41,300
nobody could do anything good.
We had we didn't have our
1082
01:28:41,300 --> 01:28:44,600
Stadium here.
We couldn't try one more Mille,
1083
01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:47,400
we can do anything.
Everything was so far off
1084
01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:51,700
normal, I'm giving one of the
year and, you know, if he comes
1085
01:28:51,700 --> 01:28:57,400
and says it will probably be
Okay but I think our issue will
1086
01:28:57,400 --> 01:29:05,200
become if next year stadiums
full and you know where Aidan
1087
01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:08,300
for again people me like there's
no difference man.
1088
01:29:09,000 --> 01:29:11,400
Yeah well maybe next year we're
talking about probably know
1089
01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:24,700
Herbert true talking about
probably know you we're talking
1090
01:29:24,700 --> 01:29:30,100
about.
Who else do you think is going
1091
01:29:30,100 --> 01:29:33,400
to go?
Is it rolling might lie?
1092
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:38,300
But the way Rooks played this
year, his stocks not going to be
1093
01:29:38,300 --> 01:29:42,700
as far up because even more.
So this year for Brooke It
1094
01:29:42,700 --> 01:29:45,100
showed in, probably more of an
NFL based system.
1095
01:29:45,700 --> 01:29:50,200
He's not strong and that hurts
him.
1096
01:29:50,300 --> 01:29:52,600
So he might say, no, I'm going
to come back cuz I think I can
1097
01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:55,100
do better in this system next
year and screw it.
1098
01:29:55,100 --> 01:29:58,300
If I do, I'll get my masters in
something in be further
1099
01:29:58,300 --> 01:30:02,900
educated.
Yeah, so yeah, so that's what
1100
01:30:02,900 --> 01:30:08,300
you're looking at right now.
So I don't know if we're As good
1101
01:30:08,300 --> 01:30:12,700
or better next year than this
year but if we're still losing
1102
01:30:12,700 --> 01:30:16,100
these dumb shit ass games like
this today.
1103
01:30:16,700 --> 01:30:21,300
Yep I mean it's going to be a
bad look and it's going to be
1104
01:30:21,300 --> 01:30:24,400
something that if it's not
addressed this year it's going
1105
01:30:24,400 --> 01:30:27,100
to be addressed next year.
And like I said, every year that
1106
01:30:27,100 --> 01:30:30,700
we end up putting out Aiden For
Worse.
1107
01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:35,100
You know Blacksburg lose a
little loses a little bit more
1108
01:30:35,100 --> 01:30:39,600
luster man and move on.
There's only so long we can live
1109
01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:44,600
off of.
Mike Vick Frank Beamer Bud,
1110
01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:48,600
Foster and Enter Sandman, we've
only so long, we can love all
1111
01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:53,200
from 95 to twenty ten or Twenty.
Yeah, because right now, I mean,
1112
01:30:54,500 --> 01:30:58,700
you know, we're still recruiting
off of what we were then and not
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what we are now.
And even every in every year
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that we are further away from
that that gets that that's
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that's selling point is a little
bit weaker.
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You know what?
Makes me sad though, because we
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talked about a couple weeks ago,
what we're selling a long
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offense, is so Superior to what
it was 10 15 years ago.
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And that's what makes me sad.
And you know, if you tell me
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tomorrow, they're firing him,
you know, you got to do what you
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got to do.
I like so small.
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So yeah, Brian, anything broken,
other than Notre Dame.
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Upsets number one, Clemson, 4740
that we were watching here.
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And if you folks are wondering,
that's why I want on my tangent.
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Those kids rated the field, they
rated the film.
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Field.
We talked about that and we
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talked about just how this the
reason you guys are listening to
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us talk and we think that we pay
money to go to the games.
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01:32:06,500 --> 01:32:08,900
The reason that we pay money to
go to the tailgates, I mean this
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shit makes you feel good.
Even, even even when you lose
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when talking about it still kind
of makes you feel good.
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So You know, for what it's
worth, you know, that that's
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something that hopefully we can
move back towards once once we
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figure things out with this
covid thing guys.
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So because that's definitely
missed this year.
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Like I said, win or lose.
So yeah, I think that's going.
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That's all I really got to say
about it, buddy.
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Let's wrap it up, man.
I'll take care of this episode
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of The Boundary Corner podcast
longer than usual.
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01:32:44,200 --> 01:32:48,700
But lot going on in our heads
tonight, I'm Curtis Wilson.
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I'm Brian siglo.
Follow us on Twitter.
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Hey music.
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Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
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And as always, he plays Us in,
he plays us out every week.
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01:33:10,900 --> 01:33:15,000
His name is Jason long.
He lives in the NRV, please
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01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:18,100
check him out at Bloom
Restaurant and Wine Bar on the
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01:33:18,100 --> 01:33:21,000
19th of this.
This month with one of his
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01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:24,700
shows, check him on Spotify and
apple music as well.
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And as always Win or lose.
Let's go.
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Okey spend my youth just
rambling around.
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Welcome back to the boundary
Corner podcast along my partner
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bronzy glow.
My name is Curtis Wilson and
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Brian today.
The Hokies fall 3835, Liberty,
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and it's late.
It's 10:30 Saturday night where
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I'm pounding on a Doppel, Vienna
logger.
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You've got some Bach there and
tonight.
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We call these recapping.
This isn't a recap episode
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tonight or at least out of this
game.
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This is a recap episode.
Of the current coaching staff at
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this University.
State of the program?
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Yeah, perfect way to put it
because what happened today?
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Is inexcusable. on third, seven,
football and me and Brian a
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little after the game for about
35 minutes we chatted Brian I'm
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up in my attic working.
Got the earbuds in me and Ron
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are talking back and forth.
He's, I mean, let's say, you
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want to just go do this now and
light?
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Brown, we got to calm down if
not.
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It's going to be more in this
episode, but we could go into
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the details of the of what
happened and it's a lot of shit.
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It's a lot of the shit we've
seen before.
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It's a lot of shit that makes.
Us angry.
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But we're not.
We're going to break this down
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on the several levels, again of
the state of the program and of
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the coaching staff, More earlier
today Brian hit me with
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something talking about the way
we do things and we look back
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and we pointed out that there
have been essentially six games
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in the last five years.
Take that back seven games.
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Since Justin Fuente took over as
head coach, that Boggle the mind
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of why we lose Syracuse and
2016, Georgia Tech in 2017, ODU,
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and 2018, the Boston College,
and the Duke game in 2019, and
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this year so far, Wake and
Liberty the day.
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Big man, you brought it up.
Go.
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I am tired, man, and I'm not
just saying that because it's
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10:37 on a Saturday night.
I am tired of watching this
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football.
Team played down to sub
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competition.
And then hope for the best
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because we do it once or twice
every single year.
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And when we do it, it feels like
we're just like the coaching
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staff is out there flailing.
It's like once once the trouble
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hits against these lesser
complex or competition, we just
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forget what to do.
I mean the only area that I
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would say we did well in today
is I mean I'm going to actually
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give the offensive line some
credit.
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I think they did a pretty good
job today.
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Couple flags that I'd like to
see cleaned up but overall a
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decent game for them.
But and Hendon hooker just need
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he bawled out when he needed to
and we called his number.
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I'll whole lot.
Probably more than I am
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comfortable with on a given
game.
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But this is Liberty, folks.
I know they're ranked number 25
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and they have some Talent.
They have talent at certain
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areas, but most of their team is
full of three star or less
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Talent.
Yep, they have what 83 star
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players we have.
Oh God.
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How many?
I don't even know.
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And there there's no other way
to spin it, or excuse it, or
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anything like that.
We were out coach and it started
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at 15 minutes in the first
quarter.
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Woohoo.
All right.
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Hold on.
You know, I missed the first
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half because I was at a baseball
game.
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So I'll let you divulge a little
bit under that.
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I mean first series gash up the
middle gash, up the middle.
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What did I talk about when we
recorded on Thursday night with
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the defensive tackle?
So who did I say?
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Should be playing front line.
Who did I say?
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Should be playing second.
One we say, Crawford, and
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Kendricks and fuga, and Hewitt
and me, and you have talked
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about this on this program and
we talked about it outside this.
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Teams that run the fucking ball
and I just dropped the first f
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bomb.
I don't know if you want to keep
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counting night here on the
fucking ball as to now, When you
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are running Jared, Hewitt.
Freaking heart of the line,
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normal pilot heart on the line
with fight.
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Guys, you want to take him to a
bra bra with you don't get me
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wrong there 286 pounds and I'm
assuming morels like to 70 on a
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good day.
I saw inside Zone on that first
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drive because I got home.
We got to have time and I look
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at Brian, said, look at the
first two defensive drop and
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it's inside Zone and they're
literally just getting pushed.
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And I'm sitting here in.
Luckily I got Brian.
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Some of y'all don't have
somebody like Brian that I can
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talk to my man.
What the fuck we doing?
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You're just like, I don't know,
I don't know why we're
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continuously letting undersized
defensive tackles against teens
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or run the fucking ball.
Yeah, I mean we got to balance
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this thing out, man.
I have no problem with, I mean,
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obviously Kendricks.
And Hewitt, as you said, I mean
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Pollard and he would sorry our
guys that play hard and
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Especially Pollard.
I love having on obvious passing
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downs.
But, and like I said, I love you
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and all the work he puts in the
program.
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But at some point, you've got to
say this is our deficiency, we
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need to clean up this
deficiency.
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And if you're seeing
consistently, when teams are
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running the ball against you and
your defensive tackles are not
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able to hold their Gap.
And let them give the
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linebackers a chance to make a
play.
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We'll get to the linebackers
here shortly.
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Let the linebackers make a play.
That's a problem and I'm just,
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I'm baffled that we're still
this far into the season guys
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getting healthy.
I don't know if after the game
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if this was subtweeting the
staff or subtweeting, the fans,
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the Crawford saying No, I'm not
hurt.
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Y'all can stop talking about
that.
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Yeah, I don't know if that's the
subtweet against the staff for
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not getting him in there more
consistently or if that's
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subtweet.
The fans were talking so much
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shit about it but whatever it
is.
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I mean I feel like we're
starting to see A locker room
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that is getting frustrated.
And I'm not sure if it's with
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the expectations and just not
following through, or if it's
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with the coaching staff, or it's
both, but I'm starting to get
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like, 2018 Vibes here.
So this team is way more
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talented in so much more
calendar.
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It feels it feels like we don't
have rudderless like every time
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we feel like we're writing the
ship, we get a broadside from a
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team that has no business
running with us like Liberty or
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like in earlier this year.
Like wait, wait, it's true.
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Then it's true.
And it's we're going into it and
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it's 7:00 now and essentially
Five Seasons and we sit here and
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today a lot of Stuff you talked
about, we didn't have juicer,
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but that's okay.
We're still more talented than
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them.
But what it is, is you just what
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I feel Brian, and I didn't feel
this last week in Louisville,
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but I felt it this week at home,
Iris eyeliner, fucking dead.
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Regardless of play that happens,
our side lines are fucking dead
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and honestly wasn't like that
out the gate this season.
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I felt like we started the
season.
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I mean, we and they talked about
it all off.
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Stays in the whole like, bring
your own fucking juice.
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Like well, no one's bringing
fucking juice consistently now,
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nobody knowing there's nobody,
when their plays made last week,
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it was Dax, and that was on the
field this week.
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And I know you're going to
probably hit that at some point
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tonight as we talk and drink
beer.
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And watch Clemson Notre Dame on
our televisions here, but there
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was no juice.
I saw Liberty, somebody popped
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out of bounds and you'd see
somebody jump up in there, man.
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They're, they're fired up their
pain, they're gone.
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They're head, we get a tackle,
it's guys like huh?
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And when the cylons are dead,
especially in it, what's going
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on?
You know, with no fan.
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Then we're going to hit that.
Don't don't believe me, we will
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because it's a lot of shit going
on.
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You've got to motivate yourself.
I hate to say this.
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Because last week, you felt like
it was something there, right?
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You saw guys up, you've seen it
earlier.
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Would you be opposed Brian to
telling 20, guys?
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I don't care if we're at home.
Go sit your ass in Miriam and
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watching game.
You know what before we traveled
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to Louisville after the Wake
debacle, we talked about how the
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Louisville travel Squad was
going to be smaller.
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Yep.
Because of some of the
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shenanigans on the sidelines.
Yeah.
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And I think we saw a little bit
better action against Louisville
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and you know, right?
Right back to it with the home
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game and you've got pretty much
everybody out there on the
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sideline and similar type
situation this week.
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So mean, that's a frustrating
look.
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Yeah, but I mean I'm going to go
a step further than that.
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It wasn't just the sidelines
man.
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Okay, I'm going to say mostly on
defense, the defense doesn't
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have a Swagger a Killer Instinct
dogs.
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I mean I feel like these players
have the potential to be that
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but we're not.
The coaching staff is not
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getting them.
Hungry.
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Haven't?
They haven't yet.
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When I, when I look at this
defense play, I feel like we
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have good players that
occasionally played good.
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But we can don't have dogs that
are asserting the action.
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They're not out there saying
we're going to fucking come at
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you.
We're going to knock the shit
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out of you and at some point
we're going to make a big play
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in turn this thing around but
right now.
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No one is afraid of this defense
does not strike fear in the
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heart of anyone.
And I'm not just saying that
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from a Perspective of, you know,
we don't have a cam Chancellor.
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I'm saying that as we don't do
anything across the board that
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makes teams have to really
scheme, hard to take away and we
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don't have enough Killer
Instinct where we're kind of
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winning the fight before, you
know, were even off the bus.
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Like there used to be something
about playing a hokie defense
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that was in people's heads even
before The first snap and we do
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not have that anymore.
No, that's, that's the honest
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truth.
Man, there were times again.
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Me and Brian roughly been fans
since 1995 and We always the
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most talented know, we weren't
honest truth, but you talked
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about the dogs and it's missing
issue.
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There's missing that one vocal
guy or that one guy, who just
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hit the living shit out of
somebody and literally stand
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over them and say, fuck you.
Fuck you, you do it again.
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I'm gonna hit you again and
immediately it's a mentality
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thing.
I think there are some guys on
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this defense it could be that.
Absolutely.
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Why aren't they vocal though?
Usually Brian you coach, some
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high school football.
You were coached in college.
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You were coached in high school.
Usually, there's a coach that
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will I'm not going to say
override the head coach, but the
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kind of give the head, I'm
assuming there's somebody that
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would get the head coach of huge
Goose.
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Hey you, let Bob saying, what
the fuck you What to say to them
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on that field and you don't say,
hey, we don't do that.
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You let him go out there and get
them fired up and get them
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feeling it.
Yep.
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Am I right?
Yeah, I mean had at him in
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Sydney that those those guys
were Chris Scott and Daniel
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Park.
Shout out to y'all.
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If you're listening obviously
some of our listeners probably
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are very familiar.
With Chris Scott said about that
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coaching down 757.
Yes.
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Oh if y'all seen Krista give a
pregame or a postgame, y'all
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know the intensity of he brings
and he brought that same level
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of intensity when he was playing
on the field, he was the leader
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out there, he was the dog,
people followed him and I feel
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like we have Leaders by example,
on the field.
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But we don't have those guys
that are Assertive in like the
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take, your will tight tight
players right now.
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And I'm not even say players,
but just consistently having
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those performances like you
don't see I haven't seen anybody
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take over game yet and I mean,
let's go ahead while we're here
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while we're talking about
players in general.
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I'm going to give a shout out to
a Mari bar.
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Know who yes in week one was a
guy that I considered more of a
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situational one down player that
was Being asked to do more than
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he should.
And now he is the best player on
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the defense at least he was
today.
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He wants them dead and you talk
about one down run, it wasn't
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even one down specifically, it
was 1 and plus 6 yards.
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Yes, he would come in one in
plus six yards, and that mf'er
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give he is a dog.
And you know what?
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Maybe he is the type of guy that
if somebody can get in his ear.
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Maybe it's 55 is on the
sidelines.
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Now can tell him you got a bark
at them.
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And if they say something to,
you know, we got your back.
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Because he seems like a kind of
got custard, a man, watching the
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pieces, I've watched he was all
over the place and he was doing
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everything his, I look at him
re-borrow right now, Brian and
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that motor in his body.
He has 15 more pounds on him.
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He gets up to 260 265.
And motherfuckers go on in the
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NFL and not only going to the
NFL with how he looks and how an
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experience he is like right now,
he's raw as hell and taking that
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many steps this this quickly.
I mean, it's impressive.
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So I'm gonna give the shout out
to him, but what I'm going to
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Pivot to now is just kind of the
overall linebacker play today
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and I'm going to start with, not
being aware of why Alan Tisdale
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was not.
Ting this game.
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I don't know if this was a team
rule situation because we didn't
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see him until after the first
quarter or something else that
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happened or this was just what
we didn't start Dax last week so
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we're getting him back in there.
Like I have no idea what the The
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thought process was in this
decision but it was bad.
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We looked better when he was in
there.
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That's no doubt and that's not
saying that we look good at any
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point on defense the entire day.
Oh no, that's a unit but that's
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saying that The snaps that Alan
Tisdale played.
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We looked better than the snaps
he didn't I mean obviously root
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getting nicked, you know, early
our second quarter that hurt
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borrow even came out for like I
think a series when he got
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nicked up so okay Nathan is
that's not involve.
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Also yeah.
So but you know as I know fans
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love Dex Dex play.
Too many steps a day between
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waking like what?
He was out there.
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Way too much.
And it showed.
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You know, for all his good
abilities, bad abilities,
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whatever Dax still struggles, at
making decisions fast enough and
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shedding blockers.
It's the old Bud Foster
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statement His head on an aligned
with his feet.
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Yeah, that's it's why so many
times in and everybody's like,
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well bud, love that cool.
But was forced to put decks in
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that situation.
I don't think he felt
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comfortable Tisdale quite yet
last year it.
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But we'll still here.
This year would Dax be it
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backer, I don't know.
But they also are always talking
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about guys who can't get this in
this together.
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We'll never make it because if
you can't make this in this
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think is one you fucked.
Basically, they picked up that
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Pi flag, which was bullshit by
the way.
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That should have been a flag.
All right, anyway.
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Sorry, it's what happens when a
lot of drinking beer.
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It's like, we're sitting in the
we're, like, we're sitting in
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the same room together talking,
but the one thing I will say
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about Dax especially last week,
You missed his juice on the
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sidelines.
Right.
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Yep.
Definitely big play last week.
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Give them all the credit in the
world and you whether you like
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him or hate him or whatever.
He was legitimately less, he was
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in the game.
He was literally cheering every
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fucking play from the sideline
and you need kind of like that.
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So it's almost like, hey coach,
don't let that let him go
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fucking chair.
He's got two more years of
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Eligibility at school.
He can still let him get those
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guys.
We make a first down swinging
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the towel, when somebody makes a
good play on defense, right?
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The sideline, clapping it up but
But there's no juice.
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There is no urgency.
And Brian, there's a reason when
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we were in our, I don't want to
say Prime because I feel like I
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prime.
I don't think we did it yet.
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We were in our 20s.
If there is a reason Lane
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stadium was the most fucking
feared face to play in the
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entire country.
One Death Valley, both of them
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Morton Touchdown, Jesus more
than the swamp warranty town or
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in the plains. and man, I think
We're missing it as a team were
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missing staying there.
We got to stay in there.
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It's almost a year now.
Yep.
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Almost a year now East stands
upper left near North End Zone
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where we can see the guys walk
in.
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In the fields around us that the
energy that was put out.
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We're missing.
It is a team.
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Yeah, I mean as much as we talk
about things they need to bring
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their own juice because I mean
obviously we're not.
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The only fan base is dealing
with this and yeah, we need to
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be able to create their own but
you know, you're a fool.
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If you say that that's not
missing from from this team,
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that was always an element of
what.
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Playing in Lane stadium was
about, was the crowd noise.
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The obviously the entrance just
kind of that psychological
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element before the way the
stadium was to noise to go to
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the opposing side line.
Yeah, I mean we're missing that.
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Badly like across the board.
So it's just And we're not the
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only theme.
So I mean, you know, obviously
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every a lot of people are
dealing with this.
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And so with the other hot, some
other high-profile teams are
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dealing with the just as badly
as we are in some cases.
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Shit, do Michigan.
Last week.
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Michigan last week.
I mean, we got Penn State this
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week.
Who else lost one today?
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That that was at home.
Hold on.
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I caliber team.
There was a couple higher
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caliber team that lost today.
We were not the only ones that's
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all.
In that game they were down, you
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see?
This.
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All right, your ham, it's tough
to dictate terms.
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There's things that go on.
Is there a game?
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And I don't care if it's next
week.
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I don't care if it's two weeks
from now on we play Pet.
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I don't care if it's next month.
Is there a game where he goes
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bud?
And just says, we're going to
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send six or seven every time I
don't give a shit.
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I want you guys just to play
without thinking, you know what?
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We get gas for some runs in
front passes fucking because
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this isn't working.
We today, we lost by a Thousand
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Cuts the pace Liberty play that.
Good God Almighty, you could
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have served fucking Christmas
dinner at the pace.
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They were playing today.
Yep, they did.
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He say that.
And all we had to do was have a
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couple fuck up drives and all of
a sudden they're in the, in the
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driver's seat man.
And that's exactly what
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happened.
We had a couple drives where we
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went three and out.
We had a couple drives where we
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settle for field goals, and that
was the fucking difference in
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the game.
It's very true and probably the
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biggest today.
This is a actually got to hear
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this on the radio.
We got a baseball.
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My wife took my oldest son over
to the the grandparents a cuz I
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think sometimes me watching a
she hadn't thought this all
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after this week thing.
I hadn't had to sit a chance to
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sit and watch a game by myself
and take notes in like three
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weeks because my mom was in
town.
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One time, we had to go to the
neighbors one time, and there
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were some other things going on
with that.
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So today is kind of like, she,
let me have him on and I'm
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sitting here and I pull up in
the driveway and I'm listening
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to the laser and burn up on the
radio and it's eight seconds
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left behind.
Jalen Holston has just broke a
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12-yard gain to get inside the
fiber.
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At the 4-yard line, there is a
timeout left.
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There is eight seconds, and I'm
sitting there.
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I'm sitting there Brian.
I'm like you run ball.
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You, you, you just got a massive
gain.
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This is the strength of your
team that you have.
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Probably the best offensive line
I near say since 2003.
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When Jake Grove in the, I
probably agree with that.
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And we were on a goddamn fade,
you played football, how long
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does it take to set up a fade
route?
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Seconds.
And I'm sitting here in the car
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listening and I'm like, why the
fuck?
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Why?
A couple times in this game.
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You're running it there.
When we went to tied up over all
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manages.
These key moments seem to always
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never work in our favor.
And while we're at Key moments,
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not working in our favor, Let's
go ahead and discuss.
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The end of the game.
Oh,
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what do you want?
You obviously had the fucking
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right, you did in there cuz you
blocked the fucking kit.
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Number two, perfectly right now.
In my opinion, the the best
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coach on this staff has been
shy, best.
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Trust the best coach on your
staff this season.
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Live recording, guys, this is
what you get.
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If you guys are wondering what
we stopped, her name, 50-yarder
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steam because there's nobody in
the middle of the field.
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Yes.
James Chavez has been the bus
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fucking coach on this team but
by a pretty big measure in some
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cases and You didn't trust him
in that situation.
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Yeah, I'm called a timeout.
You supposedly?
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I guess whispered it and then
just at the last second yelled
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it.
I just how about this, trust
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your best coach to get the right
guys, on the field and then
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built a kicker that's kicking a
59 + yard field goal.
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It's not it's not it's not
rocket science man.
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And
so, after that, Horror fit
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horrific situation, we're
scrambling because we think we
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won the game, we forget the down
and distance, and we put a
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prevent defense in like, we're
expecting a Hail Mary.
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Now I'm down distance time
o'clock.
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Yeah.
It's been both.
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It's a combination of the two.
Like you've got fourth and six.
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00:31:24,300 --> 00:31:30,000
With eight seconds left and
you've got your your Hail Mary
409
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:37,800
team out there and they do
exactly what you think they're
410
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,700
going to do.
They throw a quick out, get out
411
00:31:40,700 --> 00:31:43,600
of bounds, seven and a half
yards.
412
00:31:44,300 --> 00:31:49,300
Now, all of a sudden 259 ER
becomes a 51 and they roll out
413
00:31:49,300 --> 00:31:51,600
there fucking Rambo kicker and
he Nails it.
414
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:58,600
Nell down the pike and I'm
surprised that no one was in his
415
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,800
ear.
To change that call.
416
00:32:02,900 --> 00:32:06,800
Because true apparently, no one
else knew the situation, just
417
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:12,800
like him.
I just, it baffles me that.
418
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:17,000
I mean, we deserve to lose based
on those two calls those who
419
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:21,500
called headlong, and that's
after the clown show of coaching
420
00:32:21,500 --> 00:32:25,900
that we did up to that point.
That's true, it's very true
421
00:32:25,900 --> 00:32:28,500
because you sit here and you sit
at, and I'm sitting here, it's a
422
00:32:28,500 --> 00:32:30,800
59 yarder.
I mean, think time that I'm
423
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,400
like, this is a six-year feel
this guy's They're doing this by
424
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:38,300
chance.
He kit has the kick of his life
425
00:32:39,500 --> 00:32:44,000
of his life and he Nails it.
I'll just sit there and said
426
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,800
cool because if he misses it
you're sitting here and you've
427
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:51,400
got your going to because that's
a 59-yard or that's from the 39.
428
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,600
You actually have a chance to
run one play downfield.
429
00:32:56,100 --> 00:32:59,000
Like, don't waste time out.
Screw you didn't use it early
430
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:04,000
enough again.
I mean, we did a good job.
431
00:33:12,700 --> 00:33:17,500
That we actually today, stop
them on third or fourth down
432
00:33:17,900 --> 00:33:20,200
because those some bitches all
damn day.
433
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,800
Brian.
I mean, we're I'm you're looking
434
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,400
here and you're kind of like, we
talked about it.
435
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,300
How big of a key it is that
we've got to start getting
436
00:33:28,300 --> 00:33:30,100
stuff.
We didn't get any motherfuckin
437
00:33:30,100 --> 00:33:32,500
stops today.
We get none.
438
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:37,600
Basically Braun the team today.
They were 10 of 17, on third and
439
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:42,800
fourth down.
I'd like to be 10 of Nineteen,
440
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:49,700
we were 6 of 12. so, you sit
here and it's just like, again,
441
00:33:49,700 --> 00:33:53,700
the whole question is, Your
point, the best coach.
442
00:33:53,700 --> 00:33:55,200
He's going to put the best on
the field.
443
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,200
If you look at the way that was
set up, it was a perfect inside
444
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,100
a little move.
The two outside guys did not
445
00:34:01,100 --> 00:34:02,600
charge.
They literally got up and
446
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,900
stopped because they're thought
wonders.
447
00:34:04,900 --> 00:34:08,900
If they block it, yes, we're
there to make the play.
448
00:34:09,300 --> 00:34:12,699
We're going to make and it was
set up.
449
00:34:12,699 --> 00:34:17,300
Well, they knew that from that
distance that the trajectory of
450
00:34:17,300 --> 00:34:19,199
the kick is going to be lower
than normal.
451
00:34:20,100 --> 00:34:22,600
So you need to get pressure up
the It's not going to be
452
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,800
something where you're to have
much success getting pressure on
453
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,800
the edge.
You have a lot more higher
454
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,699
probability of blocking it by
going up, the middle, Peru, it
455
00:34:31,699 --> 00:34:35,900
was perfectly done and returned
for a touchdown and then no, it
456
00:34:35,900 --> 00:34:41,500
wasn't at that point.
What little life I had after
457
00:34:41,500 --> 00:34:45,000
watching that game got sucked.
I was like we're losing this one
458
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,900
man and we deserve to your like
regardless what happens?
459
00:34:49,500 --> 00:34:53,199
I mean I was already at the
point after When they, when we
460
00:34:53,199 --> 00:34:56,500
had to give up a touchdown in
order to stay in this game, I
461
00:34:56,500 --> 00:34:58,500
was already at the point winter
lose.
462
00:34:59,500 --> 00:35:02,800
I'm railing about this thing.
And then that hat, like, so,
463
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:09,600
It's just like I was already
like past the point of this
464
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:13,000
being acceptable, you path.
We're going to rescue like
465
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,200
there's no rest.
Somebody pass that, but I would
466
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,000
have been happy that we won, but
I wouldn't have been happy about
467
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,400
how we won, and I would have
bitched about it to the end of
468
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,200
the Earth.
And then that happened.
469
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:28,100
So we get to do double bitching
here, which is not anything.
470
00:35:28,100 --> 00:35:31,100
I want to do, but I feel like
it's something we need to do.
471
00:35:31,100 --> 00:35:34,200
It's both therapeutic because we
get our feelings out.
472
00:35:34,700 --> 00:35:41,000
And we get to actually address
some of the things that are
473
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:45,800
going on that we think probably
long-term need to be looked at.
474
00:35:46,100 --> 00:35:50,400
It's true and Brawn you talk
about long-term and we've been
475
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:54,000
chewing on Thursdays podcast
that the pickup of Jaden Keller.
476
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:59,800
And and after what's happened
this year we're four and three,
477
00:36:00,500 --> 00:36:04,000
you know, North Carolina game we
can ride off to bad losses.
478
00:36:04,500 --> 00:36:07,900
You can't favor flirtation, you
can't.
479
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:14,100
And you don't think right now,
the big guy that it feels like
480
00:36:14,100 --> 00:36:18,800
that we might lose.
And it's kind of coming down
481
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,700
because he's getting more and
more interest.
482
00:36:20,700 --> 00:36:24,300
I don't know if this kid has
grown or just his tape has
483
00:36:24,300 --> 00:36:32,300
become more and more accessible.
I mean can and Bun is starting
484
00:36:32,300 --> 00:36:35,600
to pick up offers and more
interest from some of your big
485
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:42,000
dogs.
USC's, one of the big ones, you
486
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:46,100
don't think.
Beat be honest, bro.
487
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:52,500
Let me ask you this.
You are You know what?
488
00:36:52,500 --> 00:36:54,200
Let's go big, you're linking
Riley.
489
00:36:54,300 --> 00:36:58,300
You love Cannon boom as a left
tackle and he had offered him
490
00:36:58,300 --> 00:37:01,800
yet but you see link, you see
Cannon bun.
491
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,900
What he does.
You see his body type?
492
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,100
He do good in Oklahoma probably
right.
493
00:37:07,900 --> 00:37:12,000
We think Lincoln Riley and their
coaching staff is walking in and
494
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:16,800
him they're saying we might lose
one or two games.
495
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,100
A year in the team that you have
committed to is losing to
496
00:37:20,100 --> 00:37:24,700
Liberty.
I mean right now let's go a step
497
00:37:24,700 --> 00:37:28,800
further than that, alright?
Right now to G5 schools in our
498
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:38,500
own State can - recruit has mmm.
True on top of that.
499
00:37:39,500 --> 00:37:44,200
Recent history are two closest
ACC division Rivals can -
500
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,100
recruit us.
We ain't even see.
501
00:37:47,900 --> 00:37:55,900
Yep.
It's a - Barrel because right
502
00:37:55,900 --> 00:38:02,700
now, the way we've looked is
it's bad on the paper cuz when
503
00:38:02,700 --> 00:38:05,500
you ask the kid wants to go play
for four and three school,
504
00:38:05,500 --> 00:38:09,600
that's losing the G5 schools
that can't get their shit
505
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,800
together.
That it comes look in depth on
506
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,700
offense that defensively.
What the fuck are you trying to
507
00:38:16,700 --> 00:38:18,800
do?
Yeah, it's easy.
508
00:38:19,500 --> 00:38:24,400
It's easy to - recruiters right
now, so fucking easy and then
509
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,300
you talk about the Baylor
flirtation and you know, some
510
00:38:27,300 --> 00:38:30,100
people say now well he ain't
gonna never get another Jeep.
511
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,900
Another P5 job if he gets fired
from Tech.
512
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:38,400
Yeah, but kids can't see that
kids.
513
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,000
See?
Why don't, why was he thinking
514
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,800
about leaving all?
She's thinking about leaving and
515
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:47,500
going down there.
You know, it's different when
516
00:38:47,500 --> 00:38:50,600
you're 18 because we've been A
team of four and me and Brian
517
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,500
actually had some funny
conversations because the night
518
00:38:54,100 --> 00:38:55,600
looks like the lights are off.
Now, Brian.
519
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,300
I think they just had a few
people over.
520
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:05,300
Maybe they heard me following
almost this close to being like
521
00:39:05,300 --> 00:39:13,700
y'all out of town to Pops a
little Rowdy over there.
522
00:39:13,700 --> 00:39:15,800
Huh?
Well I can hear them.
523
00:39:15,900 --> 00:39:18,700
No, not Rowdy.
Those kids couldn't be rowdy.
524
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,200
They're they're too nice, a kid,
man.
525
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:28,700
They're not, they're not 17 and
18 years old where we were wild
526
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,200
for, can get out and do what a
bunch of stupid shit.
527
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:38,000
Although I think about the way
that's Robbie's boy, you see
528
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,300
that?
Yeah.
529
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:44,800
For now, good for him live
again, guys, live podcasting,
530
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,800
Cornell pal, 17, for Clemson,
who was recruited.
531
00:39:48,900 --> 00:39:57,200
Goodbye, Virginia Tech.
Our friend, Robbie actually
532
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,900
coached him in high school.
Robbie has met Frank.
533
00:40:00,900 --> 00:40:05,900
He's met but he's met Robbie is
probably met more D1,
534
00:40:05,900 --> 00:40:10,300
Collegiate, football coaches
than most people.
535
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:18,100
So he's the sort of guy I'm sure
that has heard - recruiting
536
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:34,600
Those coaches are here.
It's true.
537
00:40:34,700 --> 00:40:36,300
It's true.
It's true.
538
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:42,300
So you know, it's one of those
things you just sit here and
539
00:40:42,300 --> 00:40:48,400
it's just That's a touchdown.
That's the first play, by the
540
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:55,600
way, I wish one day in my
dreams, see my old NCAA games
541
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,200
when you're starting quarterback
goes down.
542
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,700
Who's the 99?
The 98 comes in to replace him,
543
00:41:08,100 --> 00:41:15,000
man.
I mean, you used to You can
544
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,400
pretty much load up attribute
points across the board, but
545
00:41:19,300 --> 00:41:21,900
they finally said, hey, we're
not going to be able to allow
546
00:41:21,900 --> 00:41:24,000
that because, you know, well
guess what?
547
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,700
They need.
If they come from, you can't
548
00:41:26,300 --> 00:41:29,300
change your fucking format
because clearly, if you're a
549
00:41:29,500 --> 00:41:32,900
elite level School, the number
one quarterback, even with
550
00:41:32,900 --> 00:41:35,600
someone in front of him for a
couple of years will likely I
551
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,500
yeah, I'm it there.
That church money, man.
552
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,600
Who's that always talks about
the church money?
553
00:41:47,500 --> 00:41:50,400
Yeah.
Okey pharmacist.
554
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,000
Shout-out hokey, pharmacist for
Hunger.
555
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:59,900
Funny tweets about the church.
Fundage for the Clemson Tigers.
556
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,100
But it's true.
It's damn.
557
00:42:03,100 --> 00:42:12,000
True actually should be the
running back for my 49ers and
558
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,500
all the stuff he does.
Good folks.
559
00:42:15,500 --> 00:42:19,600
If y'all can y'all not tell that
we were few drinks deep I don't
560
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:23,700
know I don't I feel the shot for
we started tonight just I
561
00:42:23,700 --> 00:42:26,600
haven't drank all day because in
baseball come in and watch the
562
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,900
game, I have to do some things
afterwards.
563
00:42:28,900 --> 00:42:32,700
I have to go up in my attic
where 75 degree day in the Attic
564
00:42:32,700 --> 00:42:38,100
turns. 95 you doubted me more
face for certain things.
565
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,000
Yeah, I started with beer during
the game.
566
00:42:42,900 --> 00:42:47,200
We did records mere dinner
breakfast for dinner, had eggs,
567
00:42:47,300 --> 00:42:54,000
bacon and sausage, gravy and
biscuits and have had some
568
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:58,900
mimosas with dinner.
It back to beer.
569
00:43:01,100 --> 00:43:02,600
Lord Rama is like you were on a
date.
570
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,300
I'm going to assume right?
Hold on.
571
00:43:06,300 --> 00:43:10,300
Let me assume you do not smash
beers from 12 till dinner.
572
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:16,200
Now, I wasn't pounding today.
This is more of a II things
573
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:17,600
going on.
So I was drinking beer while I
574
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,500
was doing stuff.
Watching the game throwing stuff
575
00:43:20,500 --> 00:43:24,700
at the television, you know, we
Simpson, this is an old-school
576
00:43:24,700 --> 00:43:28,900
Because by the way, believe it
or not, in Brian, and I younger
577
00:43:28,900 --> 00:43:31,000
days if you had told me, well,
Brian started.
578
00:43:31,100 --> 00:43:34,600
Making beer at lunch, he drank
beers all afternoon and then he
579
00:43:34,607 --> 00:43:36,900
started pounding, mimosas at
dinnertime.
580
00:43:36,900 --> 00:43:38,000
And then he switched back to
beard.
581
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:45,300
Be like and yo what y'all should
grow is one time.
582
00:43:46,500 --> 00:43:51,800
Well, story of remember that
time me your roommate and Dom.
583
00:43:52,900 --> 00:43:55,200
Yep.
And the cooler.
584
00:43:56,200 --> 00:44:05,000
Oh yeah. 2002, I think it was
three.
585
00:44:06,100 --> 00:44:10,500
I think it was 3, 2003.
Basically you're playing those
586
00:44:10,500 --> 00:44:12,700
years because I'm not at
Longwood yet.
587
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,600
Now we can do.
Here's for y'all as Warfarin
588
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:16,900
back home.
Dog in a little while.
589
00:44:16,900 --> 00:44:22,100
But basically, we're like, 14
can make some fucking jungle
590
00:44:22,100 --> 00:44:24,300
juice.
We've got a cooler here.
591
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:29,800
Brian has obviously someone 21
on his team and his roommates a
592
00:44:29,808 --> 00:44:33,000
here, let's do this shit.
Shout out Jaybird.
593
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:41,000
He was, he was my go-to.
Fast motherfucker to right?
594
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,800
Oh yeah.
But anyway, we decided to go
595
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:51,200
make a damn vat of jungle juice
in a fucking cooler and take it
596
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:56,700
over to Brian's athletic house.
I don't still try to remember,
597
00:44:56,700 --> 00:44:59,800
because we're sitting in your
room for what, probably two
598
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,800
hours.
Just fucking pounding beers.
599
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:08,900
Here's our Theory.
So we were like, you know, we
600
00:45:08,900 --> 00:45:14,900
already have this liquor.
We could go to the party, wait
601
00:45:14,900 --> 00:45:18,900
in line for drinks, or we could
bring this cooler stash it
602
00:45:18,900 --> 00:45:22,100
somewhere and just go and refill
at our Leisure.
603
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:28,600
So we said yes we will carry
this cooler halfway across
604
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:32,600
campus in order to have
unlimited refills for the night.
605
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:37,200
Pretty much But getting an
across can this because it was
606
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:41,700
like a 22 mile hike.
We had lived across the football
607
00:45:41,700 --> 00:45:50,200
field and into frat Circle which
It can be a nightmare and then
608
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,600
up the hill to where the TAC
house was.
609
00:45:52,600 --> 00:46:00,500
So, ultimately, ultimately, we
got, it was an interesting night
610
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:04,100
and we drank all of it.
She just about all of it.
611
00:46:04,100 --> 00:46:06,200
I'm pretty sure there wasn't a
whole lot.
612
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:22,700
Well, I'm sure we gave some
girls and we're trying to get
613
00:46:22,700 --> 00:46:32,800
some girls and a fifth and then
a mix in this massive.
614
00:46:32,900 --> 00:46:37,400
A it's like we're having to walk
a who I know domme had a carry
615
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,400
it because being you set we meet
you.
616
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,900
And Brian were very intelligent
about that we sat there and
617
00:46:42,900 --> 00:46:47,300
Saddam you gotta carry this shit
across campus and because Damas,
618
00:46:47,300 --> 00:46:49,500
21.
Because if you can call it what
619
00:46:49,500 --> 00:46:52,600
they can't see Jack shit.
We get caught with it.
620
00:46:53,100 --> 00:46:58,300
Well, you and brown wouldn't go
to jail our good because I
621
00:46:58,308 --> 00:47:02,400
didn't go to Cindy was a
different Beast though, back
622
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,400
then, like, it was so
hit-or-miss.
623
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,900
Like sometimes, like, especially
during like, Greek week or
624
00:47:08,900 --> 00:47:12,100
something.
Oh, good wolf across campus, and
625
00:47:12,100 --> 00:47:16,300
it was just a free-for-all like
whatever you did, you know.
626
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:21,100
It is what it is but on random
nights, like they would be like
627
00:47:21,100 --> 00:47:26,300
yeah, you got to pour it out.
And after we spent that much
628
00:47:26,300 --> 00:47:28,800
money in that much time and
we're hauling it halfway across
629
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,300
campus.
We were not risking it.
630
00:47:31,300 --> 00:47:35,000
Getting poured out know, we
weren't a lot of time.
631
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,700
This is going to be labeled
reminiscing.
632
00:47:45,700 --> 00:47:47,900
Yeah.
Again for y'all who might be
633
00:47:47,900 --> 00:47:49,700
first-time listener for y'all?
Listen.
634
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:52,600
Me and Brad Siegel have known
each other.
635
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:56,900
Since middle school.
I'm 37 Brian's 36.
636
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,700
We've known each other more than
20 years.
637
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,400
This is just one of many
stories.
638
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:08,500
So, and we've done some dumb
shit around each other.
639
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:10,500
Some things will not be
mentioned.
640
00:48:12,300 --> 00:48:15,100
Maybe our wives are the only
other people that know it if
641
00:48:15,100 --> 00:48:17,300
they weren't there.
That's probably it.
642
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:23,000
So, anyway, run again, -
recruiting is going to be alive
643
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,000
for us and there's gonna be some
guys like Cannon Boonies.
644
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:30,800
Starting to get the interest,
probably DJ Harvey more than a
645
00:48:30,808 --> 00:48:33,000
few other.
Guys, are going to get that push
646
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:39,500
from potentially bigger schools.
And you know, we sit here and we
647
00:48:39,500 --> 00:48:45,500
know the coaching staff Is what
it is in Brian.
648
00:48:45,700 --> 00:48:53,900
Let me ask this.
Your Justin Fuente, just some
649
00:48:53,900 --> 00:48:55,200
lives out.
Next to the golf course.
650
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,800
We know that we've heard that
before, he's going to wake up
651
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,000
tomorrow morning.
You got to go in Sunday's a prep
652
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:01,400
day for them.
Obviously.
653
00:49:03,500 --> 00:49:05,800
He's going to, I can't remember
exactly where it is, but I'm
654
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:09,400
going to assume for 60 60 and
he's turning to merryman.
655
00:49:09,500 --> 00:49:12,400
He's on parking at parking lot
where you can see Lane Stadium.
656
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:19,400
She score Boise drill field, you
see all that fun stuff, and he's
657
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,400
a long to his office and he's on
that door up.
658
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:26,400
He's going to sit down.
It's probably about 6 or 7 a.m.
659
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,900
Brian your him.
What do you do tomorrow?
660
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:34,300
Because unless he's an idiot,
what you might be?
661
00:49:36,100 --> 00:49:37,800
He know.
Yeah, yeah.
662
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:43,000
I don't think he's an idiot in
the terms of reading people, but
663
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:47,300
I think he knows that this loss
has probably pissed.
664
00:49:47,300 --> 00:49:50,400
The fan base off his lot and
potentially lost his team, a
665
00:49:50,400 --> 00:50:04,200
little bit, a little bit.
Is controlled by someone else
666
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:11,500
but if I'm him, I am evaluating
myself and my staff to a degree
667
00:50:11,500 --> 00:50:14,600
that I've never done this far in
my career.
668
00:50:15,700 --> 00:50:21,600
I'm taking a long hard look at
situational play calling.
669
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:25,000
I'm taking a long hard look at
the preparation that we have.
670
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:29,400
And why we are consistently
having poor starts against
671
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,000
inferior competition and then
having to play either from
672
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:36,300
behind or neck and neck with
these companies with these
673
00:50:36,500 --> 00:50:42,000
opponents.
I'm looking at why we don't have
674
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,100
the energy on the sidelines and
who in the coaching staff?
675
00:50:45,300 --> 00:50:49,400
Laugh.
Can bring some more juice.
676
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,100
I'm looking at who we have in
the booth and who we have on the
677
00:50:53,107 --> 00:50:55,300
sideline.
Okay.
678
00:50:56,400 --> 00:51:00,900
I'm taking a look at changing
play called duties on offense.
679
00:51:02,700 --> 00:51:06,300
Well, bond me, and you have been
calling it for a while now,
680
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,100
we're not do this.
It's not a shocking thing.
681
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:15,300
Because today, it's the same,
it's the same All right, Mom,
682
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,200
it's the same shit.
It's not the entire game.
683
00:51:18,300 --> 00:51:22,700
It's I to say this, Believe It
or Not Berlin from bronstein
684
00:51:22,700 --> 00:51:25,300
spring break, or Nielsen is
actually want to fucking Step
685
00:51:25,300 --> 00:51:29,800
Up.
Or Scott loffler or my cocaine
686
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,200
Hood.
But called please back in and
687
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,300
y'all, I'm almost tempted, like
Brian by the way.
688
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:40,100
You know, I had a shot before
hand looking like over there and
689
00:51:40,100 --> 00:51:50,000
just about nine again, but it is
a step up what it is now.
690
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:55,000
And I think maybe if we Maybe if
we weren't for Virginia Tech
691
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:58,500
fans and we didn't pay
attention, we wouldn't notice
692
00:51:58,500 --> 00:52:00,200
it.
What it is now is the
693
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:05,600
situational terrible ass calls
today, and we mentioned it
694
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:12,300
earlier was at the end of the
first half, You don't run a
695
00:52:12,300 --> 00:52:17,300
fade, you run the fucking ball
because that is your strength.
696
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:21,300
If they stop you grate it angled
take eight fucking seconds, run
697
00:52:21,300 --> 00:52:23,400
a ball, you call your damn time
at you got to put you feel, you
698
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,300
know.
But here's the thing about that,
699
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,400
you get in the end zone, you're
up 10 in the momentum is
700
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,600
completely shifted.
Their down two scores, not one
701
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:35,300
the other one and Brian, this
pissed you off and you're
702
00:52:35,300 --> 00:52:39,200
sitting here and you're telling
me unless you're fucking going
703
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,200
for it with them.
Fuck, are you doing calling
704
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:41,700
that?
Play.
705
00:52:43,100 --> 00:52:45,100
Are you talking about the
quarterback lead on third down
706
00:52:45,100 --> 00:52:47,400
and six?
Yes.
707
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:53,700
The one we just got.
Yeah so if you were not going to
708
00:52:53,700 --> 00:52:59,100
go for it on fourth down, you do
not call that play. in that
709
00:52:59,100 --> 00:53:07,300
situation, because They knew the
defense was hurting at this
710
00:53:07,300 --> 00:53:09,400
point.
They knew it.
711
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:12,500
They had consistently not been
able to get off the field unless
712
00:53:12,500 --> 00:53:14,300
they were forcing attorney.
Yep.
713
00:53:15,100 --> 00:53:20,200
So you've got to have in your
mind that you need to get a
714
00:53:20,207 --> 00:53:22,100
first down.
Yep.
715
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:26,400
And if you want to get a first
down, its third down, and six,
716
00:53:27,100 --> 00:53:29,000
you got a call to play to get
you the first down.
717
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,300
And if you don't call a play,
that's going to definitely get
718
00:53:31,300 --> 00:53:33,800
your first down, you've got to
have in your mind that you're
719
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:41,500
going for it on Fourth. and, You
know, we've talked about it in a
720
00:53:41,508 --> 00:53:46,000
lot of the games this year, we
consistently leave points on the
721
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:50,300
field when we're having good
drives.
722
00:53:50,700 --> 00:53:53,400
Yep.
And we did it again.
723
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:58,400
Today, between the drive just
before half the drive were
724
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:04,600
discussing here and then you
couple that with opening the
725
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:11,900
game and then opening the second
half with Just execution flaws
726
00:54:11,900 --> 00:54:16,600
in a couple calls here or there
that were questionable that gave
727
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:20,100
that offense the ball back
really quickly so they could
728
00:54:20,100 --> 00:54:24,300
score.
I mean, you can put those things
729
00:54:24,300 --> 00:54:26,400
together.
It's problematic, man, it's
730
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,800
problematic.
It's been a family problem at
731
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:34,000
it, you know, the other piece is
especially with the, you know,
732
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,100
the opening drive.
And it's again, it's why it's a
733
00:54:36,100 --> 00:54:41,500
step up from where we were the
Play on like third and 7 of that
734
00:54:41,500 --> 00:54:45,300
open and drivers right.
Play, that was a poor excuse it
735
00:54:45,300 --> 00:54:49,200
wasn't, it was a poor executed
play, because if he hits cable
736
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:52,400
Smith, you looked at that.
Play, after I told you, we
737
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,500
talked about it.
If he had set play, the Caleb,
738
00:54:54,700 --> 00:54:57,600
Caleb has 20 yards because
that's always vacated.
739
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:01,300
Because we essentially, we
essentially ran off to safety
740
00:55:01,300 --> 00:55:03,100
when out the corner from that
spot.
741
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:07,300
But the issue is, it's always
the worst times.
742
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,700
And somebody say, well, if it's
the worst times and you're not
743
00:55:10,700 --> 00:55:14,200
in a good position when the game
anyway, well for years upon
744
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:17,500
years, we saw it times where it
was just bad play calling all
745
00:55:17,500 --> 00:55:20,500
around.
So again, we put the Step Up
746
00:55:20,500 --> 00:55:24,000
where it's probably 85% the
plays are okay.
747
00:55:24,100 --> 00:55:28,900
But what we see and again, what
we see is fans and what you see
748
00:55:28,900 --> 00:55:34,400
is a person who played is the
plays that are W terrible calls
749
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:38,600
are at the worst times if people
called her, what, at the at the
750
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:43,900
opportune times, then it's okay.
Sometimes you sometimes the best
751
00:55:43,900 --> 00:55:47,200
offensive play callers.
You see in the country and on
752
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:50,500
the NFL, they'll do that shit.
Just to make you make.
753
00:55:50,500 --> 00:55:52,700
You think about it, right?
Like, you got to think about
754
00:55:52,700 --> 00:55:55,600
this because I'll do that when
y'all are thinking thinking
755
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:59,300
about it, no doubt man.
And I think another thing that
756
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:05,300
we need to look at is you know,
we talk about the situational
757
00:56:06,300 --> 00:56:12,200
awareness feel like is always
lacking but you know, sometimes
758
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:21,200
I just don't feel like we have a
plan. and that we like, for
759
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:25,500
example, first play of the game
is a jet Suite.
760
00:56:26,700 --> 00:56:29,300
I still like that that right
there.
761
00:56:29,300 --> 00:56:35,200
Just felt like Okay, this is
what we're doing this, this is
762
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:37,800
what we're doing.
They just March the fucking ball
763
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:42,900
down the field and scored on us.
And your first call is a jet
764
00:56:42,900 --> 00:56:49,200
Suite.
How many Curtis if, if there's
765
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:54,700
two plays that as a defensive
coordinator for Liberty, if I'm
766
00:56:54,700 --> 00:56:58,300
sitting making a game plan of
say, what, what should I need to
767
00:56:58,300 --> 00:57:01,200
take away?
Or what does this all offensive
768
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:05,100
tendency?
Give me two plays that would
769
00:57:05,100 --> 00:57:06,800
that they would think to take
away now.
770
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:08,900
I'm not many.
It's outside Zone yet, please.
771
00:57:10,300 --> 00:57:11,800
Okay.
So either.
772
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:29,000
Hey, listen, hey,
that would sit out there and
773
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:33,700
say, you know what I'm gonna do
We're going to run Jet Sweep
774
00:57:33,700 --> 00:57:36,300
fake.
And you what I'm going to do,
775
00:57:36,300 --> 00:57:37,500
I'm either going to run a
quarterback.
776
00:57:37,500 --> 00:57:41,800
Sweep on the opposite side or or
if you're really fucking
777
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:43,900
creative you're really fun.
Creative.
778
00:57:44,900 --> 00:57:46,900
We're gonna run this.
Fake Jets will eat tendons.
779
00:57:46,900 --> 00:57:48,400
Go wrong.
Like he's going to run.
780
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,900
I'm going to let the left the
tight end and the left tackle
781
00:57:51,900 --> 00:57:53,800
sweep out.
I'm gonna throw a damn screen
782
00:57:54,100 --> 00:57:56,100
and there's not going to be
anybody on that side of the
783
00:57:56,100 --> 00:57:57,800
field.
Yep.
784
00:57:59,100 --> 00:58:01,000
Right.
And I mean we we ran our
785
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:05,300
quarterback to death today and
that bothered me too just
786
00:58:05,300 --> 00:58:10,300
because it's effective, like
he's the quarterback, the entire
787
00:58:10,300 --> 00:58:15,000
offense runs through him, he
can't just keep slamming him
788
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:19,600
into the defense, the entire
game and what bothers me more
789
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,800
than that is that it's almost
like our play.
790
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:29,200
Caller does not trust Blackshear
or Holston to get Yards for them
791
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:32,200
and no point.
Did our offensive coordinator?
792
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:35,200
Do anything to get them
comfortable in the game plan
793
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:38,600
today.
It was all well, we don't have
794
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:44,800
Herbert a couple early plays to
our running backs were - despite
795
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,600
one of them being on the
coordinator for calling a
796
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:54,400
dumbass reverse when we didn't.
We weren't really at that point
797
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:58,000
yet we're that type of play call
should come into play and then
798
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:02,300
it gets blown up and then you
completely go away from your
799
00:59:02,300 --> 00:59:06,700
running backs until the drive
just before half-time and Then
800
00:59:06,700 --> 00:59:09,500
you come out in the second half
and he really kind of go away
801
00:59:09,500 --> 00:59:12,800
from them more or less.
Again, I think we had one or two
802
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:16,300
drives where we finally got
Blackshear involved getting some
803
00:59:16,300 --> 00:59:20,700
carries there in the second half
but It was kind of too little,
804
00:59:20,700 --> 00:59:23,100
too late, like the running backs
never got in Rhythm.
805
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:27,800
And the quarterbacks, the
quarterback ended up having to
806
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:30,100
put the entire damn offense on
his back.
807
00:59:30,800 --> 01:00:30,400
And he did if he did, did he
And it seems like we've seen him
808
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:36,000
three yards from him and make a
move and get 15 yards.
809
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:42,500
So you know, I think that's just
one of those weird things Brian
810
01:00:42,500 --> 01:00:45,800
but I won't say this run.
You talk about what and I bring
811
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,900
I want the question to you.
What does he do?
812
01:00:48,900 --> 01:00:52,800
Tomorrow morning get tomorrow
morning when I went that long
813
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:54,500
yet?
Yeah, not yet.
814
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:56,800
Yeah, but I cracked another
beer.
815
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:59,300
If you didn't hear it all I've
walked over to the beer fridge
816
01:00:59,300 --> 01:01:02,500
there cuz I'm going to
eventually probably be smashed
817
01:01:02,500 --> 01:01:04,500
when I go upstairs and my wife's
been probably kick me or
818
01:01:04,500 --> 01:01:07,300
something or little ones in the
wake up at 4 and I'm not going
819
01:01:07,300 --> 01:01:10,000
to be able to go back to Leaps,
I'm just going to wake up drunk.
820
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:28,400
Hey
everybody.
821
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:42,500
I don't think so.
We did so well for so many years
822
01:01:42,700 --> 01:01:47,500
into our a modernized defense
that can help protect the face
823
01:01:47,500 --> 01:01:51,700
mask that can help prevent huge
scores quickly.
824
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:55,800
It's going to be things like
that, that are going to happen.
825
01:01:56,300 --> 01:02:03,000
So, you know, I can't put any of
the blame on those guys, but
826
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:34,100
then I said,
Entire staff and say you've got
827
01:02:34,100 --> 01:02:42,800
to do this. so if your if your
wit are you looking at making a
828
01:02:42,808 --> 01:02:48,400
change, Oh, head coaching laws?
Yes.
829
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:54,000
Oh god.
Well, bra know I said it a
830
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:57,200
couple weeks ago that my, my
confidence in the head coach had
831
01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:01,600
faded and it's still there.
The confidence is still faded.
832
01:03:05,100 --> 01:03:08,000
and I think what it's even more
after today, is the light at the
833
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:16,800
end of the tunnel where in 2016
We legitimately felt like this
834
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:19,400
is we got the right guy, we've
got the right system.
835
01:03:20,100 --> 01:03:22,200
We're going to compete with
Clemson and a few years.
836
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:26,700
Once everybody's here. 2017, it
didn't change.
837
01:03:27,700 --> 01:03:31,100
It didn't.
Yeah, and even in 2018, with all
838
01:03:31,100 --> 01:03:34,200
that stuff, while we're playing
a lot of young guys, last year,
839
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:37,900
it came down, but then Henning,
kind of brought it back up.
840
01:03:38,700 --> 01:03:51,100
But after that two losses this
year is like Honestly, I said, I
841
01:03:51,100 --> 01:03:53,800
feel like God's telling us he's
not the right person.
842
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:00,200
Yeah.
I mean,
843
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:18,900
Consistently playing for ACC
championships.
844
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:22,900
I'm not saying we have to be
Clemson, I'd like to get there
845
01:04:22,900 --> 01:04:26,400
but I'm not saying we have to be
that but we need to be at least
846
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:30,000
what we were kind of in the
Logan Thomas years.
847
01:04:30,900 --> 01:04:34,800
Okay specially especially the
David Wilson Logan Thomas you,
848
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:39,600
okay.
We need to be there if we're not
849
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:42,900
there consistently to me.
That's a problem.
850
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:46,200
And now I don't think
necessarily it's one thing.
851
01:04:46,300 --> 01:04:49,100
Or another.
But, you know, everyone in the
852
01:04:49,100 --> 01:04:52,400
offseason and everyone
especially with what the 2020
853
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:55,800
class looked like was bitching
about the recruiting.
854
01:04:56,300 --> 01:04:59,400
I don't like the recruiting
either, but I would much rather
855
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:02,200
have bad recruiting than the
shit that we had that happen
856
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:03,800
today.
Yep.
857
01:05:04,300 --> 01:05:06,800
And I don't necessarily think
one is byproduct of the other
858
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:10,400
because regardless of the
recruiting we had better overall
859
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:14,200
players on the field today and
we did not play them in a
860
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:16,200
whether its execution by the
players.
861
01:05:16,300 --> 01:05:18,000
Hers, or the coach is putting
them in place.
862
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,000
We did not play well enough to
win that game.
863
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:22,800
We didn't know and that's a
coaching thing and that's a
864
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:25,600
coaching piece that has nothing
to do with recruiting notes.
865
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:29,600
Oh, It's not just the recruiting
that were pointing the finger at
866
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:33,600
here.
I can live with a top 30 class.
867
01:05:34,700 --> 01:05:38,600
If we're over playing that hand,
you can't live with this shit.
868
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:41,100
When you're when you're putting
guys in horrible parking
869
01:05:41,100 --> 01:05:45,400
positions making guys do things
they shouldn't fucking do.
870
01:05:45,900 --> 01:05:48,800
Yeah.
And then again there's no
871
01:05:48,900 --> 01:05:52,600
there's no excuse for a team
with the talent that we have to
872
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:55,100
lose to Liberty.
And to lose to wake this season.
873
01:05:55,500 --> 01:05:58,100
It's true.
Now that's that's, that's where
874
01:05:58,100 --> 01:06:02,100
I'm at.
So, where I'm at is that If
875
01:06:02,100 --> 01:06:06,300
someone said, if someone is
looking at moving on from when I
876
01:06:06,308 --> 01:06:11,000
would say, I'm fine with that
but but I'll throw with caveat
877
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:15,300
in there.
Problems are not just going to
878
01:06:15,300 --> 01:06:17,900
go away with the new head coach.
Nope.
879
01:06:17,900 --> 01:06:30,100
Because for the last few months.
Yes.
880
01:06:36,100 --> 01:06:39,700
Where our expectations are in
where our investments.
881
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:45,600
So, I'm with everyone that if
everyone wants to fire Fuente
882
01:06:45,700 --> 01:06:49,600
and that's what went back up,
decides to go with thumbs up,
883
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:54,000
okay.
But I need to see a plan both
884
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:57,700
from who you going to hire how
much you going to pay them?
885
01:06:57,900 --> 01:07:00,800
Are you going to pay enough to
actually get a higher?
886
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:05,400
That is worthy to change coaches
for and once you get them in the
887
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:08,200
damn building, are you going to
invest in the program enough for
888
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:12,900
them to have success?
I think that's a reasonable
889
01:07:12,900 --> 01:07:15,400
request if you're going to make
the choice to fire a coach
890
01:07:15,900 --> 01:07:18,600
because if you don't have a damn
game plan of what happens next,
891
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:23,200
I mean, we have to recalibrate
our expectations, we might as
892
01:07:23,207 --> 01:07:57,500
well, let him go out.
So it's crazy but no bra.
893
01:07:57,500 --> 01:09:20,300
No, I'm with you.
he was, but
894
01:09:36,300 --> 01:10:34,800
students have said,
But still great.
895
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:37,700
Fucking that's what college
football, I'm stopping right
896
01:10:37,700 --> 01:10:39,000
now.
That's what college football's
897
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:46,900
about that.
That for folks, it is 11:44 on
898
01:10:46,900 --> 01:10:49,600
the East Coast.
That is what college football is
899
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:52,200
all about.
You rush to feel when you take
900
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:59,600
down number one, you rush it.
You gotta love the energy, man.
901
01:10:59,700 --> 01:11:16,500
You gotta love it.
There is no emotion, like that.
902
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:20,200
Professional football.
There's no prevention like that.
903
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:23,200
In just about any for both, the
exception of March Madness.
904
01:11:23,700 --> 01:11:26,900
There's not.
If and we have been in that
905
01:11:26,900 --> 01:11:34,200
dude, in Leeds, we have been in
that, that's what makes this
906
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:37,400
sport in my opinion.
And if you're a professional
907
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:40,400
football 101 because a fantasy
because of all that, that's
908
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:42,700
fine.
You're seeing the elite of the
909
01:11:42,700 --> 01:11:46,700
elite.
Do a sport that's great, but
910
01:11:46,700 --> 01:11:49,900
that right there and you're
seeing it right now, the green,
911
01:11:49,900 --> 01:11:51,800
right?
The Green Way up.
912
01:11:52,200 --> 01:12:56,800
Oh yeah you don't see that.
Regardless of
913
01:13:08,900 --> 01:13:12,100
how you feel about this years
ago and I can't find the clip.
914
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:15,800
And I wish you could be out
there by the way, give him
915
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:17,500
credit.
I'm seeing more masking that
916
01:13:17,500 --> 01:14:12,800
crowd than expected.
The hedges.
917
01:14:14,700 --> 01:14:18,000
When we started this podcast,
it's a Virginia Tech podcast.
918
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:19,600
It is a college football
podcast.
919
01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:21,600
So that's why we do different
games every week.
920
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:27,900
And if you set in any of those
stadiums, and I've got a list.
921
01:14:28,300 --> 01:14:31,800
The cocktail party was today.
I want to get in that at least
922
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:37,100
one time before I die, because
apparently literally die because
923
01:14:37,100 --> 01:14:40,400
it's nuts and they don't break
out in fist fights.
924
01:14:41,100 --> 01:14:44,000
But that's what it's all about
in.
925
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:46,800
I'm ready for next year and
hopefully this shit gets over
926
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:51,800
with me and you can get into
Lane stadium in Jump.
927
01:14:51,900 --> 01:14:54,700
Umph.
And uh, okay.
928
01:14:54,700 --> 01:15:00,700
IES Hokies and maybe just maybe
we can stick it in.
929
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:38,700
Well,
I'm not going to come here and
930
01:15:38,700 --> 01:15:41,200
you know what I'm going to do,
I'm going to go on social media
931
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:44,300
and say I wanted to come
Virginia Tech because the
932
01:15:44,300 --> 01:15:49,100
tradition of what Frank Beamer
built and what Bud Foster and
933
01:15:49,100 --> 01:15:53,000
that staff built those staffs in
the 90s 9019.
934
01:15:53,300 --> 01:15:55,800
I'm going to come here.
But you know what, he wouldn't
935
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:57,300
do anything to invest in
football.
936
01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:02,100
That's what I do if I want it.
Now brought on you said
937
01:16:02,100 --> 01:16:04,500
summerlee gonna have some have
some big dick.
938
01:16:04,500 --> 01:16:09,200
Energy to pull that off is only
probably a handful of guys that
939
01:16:09,500 --> 01:16:12,200
I think would want the job that
can pull some shit off like
940
01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:14,300
that.
It'll be interesting to see if
941
01:16:14,300 --> 01:16:22,000
we can Sweeten, the pot enough
booth on the direct compensation
942
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:27,500
side and on the program
investment side to make them
943
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:31,600
see.
Virginia Tech is the place they
944
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:36,000
want to be.
Obviously there's some alums
945
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:42,400
that I think would potentially
Look at it with a little softer
946
01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:45,600
side, especially from the direct
compensation perspective.
947
01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:51,900
It's true.
But I don't know if they will
948
01:16:51,900 --> 01:16:57,700
have the chops to pull off the
program investment side of the
949
01:16:57,700 --> 01:17:02,600
coin there.
Again, they might be able to,
950
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:07,300
it's just I feel like we need to
have that level of investment in
951
01:17:07,300 --> 01:17:11,700
Pride regardless of having a
coach coming come in and say
952
01:17:11,700 --> 01:17:15,500
this is what I need because at
this point they should fucking
953
01:17:15,500 --> 01:17:20,900
know and honestly Fuentes told
them he's not doing a good
954
01:17:20,900 --> 01:17:24,700
enough job of probably pushing
it but I think he's certainly
955
01:17:25,100 --> 01:17:27,900
told them.
I need this to be as successful
956
01:17:27,900 --> 01:17:33,100
as you want us to be and I think
honestly he does because he's
957
01:17:33,100 --> 01:17:34,700
not a natural.
Router.
958
01:17:35,300 --> 01:17:38,500
And he's not a guy that is
driving.
959
01:17:38,500 --> 01:17:43,200
A lot of direct donations based
on some of the product we put
960
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:50,600
out the last few years so he
does need All the help he can
961
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:54,600
get on the financial front,
whether it's, you know, new
962
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:58,100
facilities, whether it's actual
recruiting dollars, whether it's
963
01:17:58,100 --> 01:18:01,900
more money, for his staff, to
build that out.
964
01:18:01,900 --> 01:18:06,100
I still can't get over the like,
we couldn't come up 100K to get
965
01:18:06,100 --> 01:18:11,300
Odom, like that, that's still
blowing my mind.
966
01:18:12,500 --> 01:18:17,600
So.
You know, at some point, we need
967
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:22,800
to address everything.
I mean I know I definitely think
968
01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:28,300
coaching is a problem, but
coaching is also bearing the
969
01:18:28,300 --> 01:18:30,100
brunt of the scapegoat here as
well.
970
01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:35,700
So until we change a lot of
things about the program, I
971
01:18:35,700 --> 01:18:40,700
don't think that we're going to
see a significant bump in an
972
01:18:40,700 --> 01:18:44,700
output on the field.
That mean, that's just, that's
973
01:18:44,700 --> 01:18:52,500
just how I see it again.
But I want to see a plan that
974
01:18:52,500 --> 01:18:57,300
goes beyond, just bringing new
guy in, because I need to hear
975
01:18:57,300 --> 01:19:00,900
who that guy is going to be and
what the plan is to invest in
976
01:19:00,907 --> 01:19:03,200
the program.
So that person has success until
977
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:07,700
I hear that I'm still like, okay
well cool.
978
01:19:07,700 --> 01:19:12,200
But you know, if we hire another
guy and he ends up going 6 and 7
979
01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:13,800
are going, are we going to be
doing this again in?
980
01:19:13,900 --> 01:19:16,400
Years and that's what you don't
want to get into.
981
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:19,800
And I think maybe the thing
about Justin's olympe that
982
01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:22,300
happened in 2016.
If you had walked in and seeing
983
01:19:22,300 --> 01:19:26,500
what was going on behind the
scenes, it should have been day
984
01:19:26,500 --> 01:19:30,400
one pushing, we need these new
positions but he I don't think
985
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:32,500
he's that type of guy.
I think he felt like well
986
01:19:32,500 --> 01:19:34,200
they'll see it, they'll see it
right?
987
01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:36,900
They'll see that.
We're going to probably we're
988
01:19:36,900 --> 01:19:42,000
going to hit some hard times and
we did and now but it's more on
989
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:45,100
you as a leader.
Or as the coach of the football
990
01:19:45,100 --> 01:19:47,800
team, it's like we need x y z to
get there.
991
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:50,500
Yeah, we had a great first
season because we have some
992
01:19:50,500 --> 01:19:53,500
really good players here, but we
need X Y & Z to stay here.
993
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:58,200
And for him, unfortunately, it
took until 2020 January of 2020
994
01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:00,700
for all this to happen.
Chaos breaks out.
995
01:20:00,700 --> 01:20:05,600
You don't get to put the full
plan in place, and then somebody
996
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:09,900
Was it fish?
The be fish that made the point
997
01:20:09,900 --> 01:20:14,100
that he looked up that in 15
years ago we had one of the
998
01:20:14,100 --> 01:20:15,800
highest paid staffs in the
country.
999
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:18,600
And today, we're like 37.
I feel like you put that out
1000
01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:21,200
there a few weeks ago.
Yeah, I believe so.
1001
01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:24,400
I think you're right.
Shut up and Fish on Twitter
1002
01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:27,500
there.
Yeah, he talked about it and
1003
01:20:28,100 --> 01:20:30,400
let's go back and do a little
history lesson here.
1004
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:35,000
We've talked about it before
with Frank, Beamer having a
1005
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:40,100
flirtation with UNC Yeah, I'm
coming back and saying, you
1006
01:20:40,100 --> 01:20:43,600
know, if if you're going to keep
me, we need to do this and the
1007
01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:48,200
big part of that was paying.
But Foster paying the assistants
1008
01:20:48,700 --> 01:20:52,700
essentially being having one of
the highest if not be highs
1009
01:20:53,900 --> 01:20:59,400
assistant staff in the country,
you know, we move from that in
1010
01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:04,600
the mid-2000s to now, you know,
playing catch-up with like mid s
1011
01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:11,100
teams and we We are surprised
that the output on the field,
1012
01:21:11,100 --> 01:21:16,900
has dipped relative to, you
know, where those Staffing in
1013
01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:20,100
and recruiting dollars are being
spent.
1014
01:21:20,100 --> 01:21:24,800
So, like I said, I love the
energy that people have in terms
1015
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:28,700
of the passion about, you know,
this is unacceptable.
1016
01:21:28,700 --> 01:21:30,600
I'm right there with you.
This is unacceptable, what
1017
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:33,800
happened today is unacceptable
and it is a coaching problem and
1018
01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:38,600
I'm 100% with that.
But I think it's naive to think
1019
01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:42,000
that you can just hire any coach
and that's going to change.
1020
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:47,300
The situation is true, then it's
true and where we were 20 plus
1021
01:21:47,300 --> 01:21:51,500
years ago, was a different era
of college football, and it was
1022
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:53,900
the money was different.
And then when we were 15 years
1023
01:21:53,900 --> 01:21:58,700
ago, the money is different.
College football has become a
1024
01:21:58,708 --> 01:22:01,700
corporation and if you don't
want it like a corporation, you
1025
01:22:01,700 --> 01:22:07,500
will essentially fail.
And so far we haven't ran it
1026
01:22:07,500 --> 01:22:09,600
like Corporation in the last 10
years.
1027
01:22:09,900 --> 01:22:12,700
Where I hate to say this may be
because of dado came from
1028
01:22:12,700 --> 01:22:16,300
corporate real estate.
He saw it that's how he started
1029
01:22:16,300 --> 01:22:19,000
running it when he had hired 10
years ago and that's why they
1030
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:22,100
have been so successful and it's
not going to go back, folks,
1031
01:22:22,500 --> 01:22:24,900
you're not going to turn the
clock back and it's not going to
1032
01:22:24,900 --> 01:22:28,100
be like that anymore.
Those dance like there's a
1033
01:22:28,100 --> 01:22:31,900
bubble, man.
He's just waiting out the
1034
01:22:31,900 --> 01:22:54,800
bubble.
Do you know what that means?
1035
01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:01,700
Coming down for these TV
contract because it's even more
1036
01:23:01,700 --> 01:23:05,000
insane, right?
Yep.
1037
01:23:05,300 --> 01:23:12,600
I mean it's still going to be
more insane like last weekend.
1038
01:23:14,500 --> 01:23:17,000
Are you ready to hear this run?
Yep.
1039
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:22,200
Clemson pulled Clemson.
BC on ABC.
1040
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:43,400
But their biggest town in terms
of draw wasn't even playing in
1041
01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:47,200
the game and they pull those
numbers against a middling ACC
1042
01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:50,100
opponent.
So, guess what I'm saying and
1043
01:24:50,100 --> 01:24:51,900
there's no telling what the game
that we just watch
1044
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:09,200
the bubbles burst and whether
you want to fire just In Valente
1045
01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:12,000
tonight, which if somebody told
me and you today, that's going
1046
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:13,500
to happen.
We'd be like, okay, but who's
1047
01:25:13,500 --> 01:25:16,000
the next guy?
What spleen that should be the
1048
01:25:16,008 --> 01:25:17,800
question?
Not too much, who gets fired,
1049
01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:20,900
but what's the plan?
Because it's a lot of money to
1050
01:25:20,900 --> 01:25:23,000
buy him out.
Let me 50 Min,
1051
01:25:37,500 --> 01:25:41,300
but let me see what the plan is.
As long as long as
1052
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:56,000
someone's going to come in with
the salaries that were offering
1053
01:25:56,600 --> 01:26:00,000
in all of a sudden it's going to
be sunshine and Roses.
1054
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:04,500
So I'm definitely still
tempering my expectations if
1055
01:26:04,500 --> 01:26:30,300
that's the case.
Yeah, it's it.
1056
01:26:30,300 --> 01:26:32,600
You can't just have the right
guy.
1057
01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:35,200
It can't.
If that happens, it has to be
1058
01:26:35,300 --> 01:26:38,300
fucking perfect and that's not
going to happen more than
1059
01:26:38,300 --> 01:26:41,900
likely.
It's got to be a long-term plan
1060
01:26:42,200 --> 01:26:45,000
to say we're we were here.
Now we're here.
1061
01:26:45,300 --> 01:26:47,400
We're going to get back to hear
if you're hiring you back to
1062
01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:50,100
here.
And if that happens, yes, it's
1063
01:26:50,100 --> 01:26:51,800
potential to get back to where
we were.
1064
01:26:52,700 --> 01:27:25,200
Yeah.
you know, we're paying your top
1065
01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:29,900
40 money and we have top 20
expectations.
1066
01:27:31,500 --> 01:27:35,300
There's not a lot of and and
probably in terms of investment
1067
01:27:35,300 --> 01:27:39,200
in the whole program.
Maybe even top 50, there's not a
1068
01:27:39,208 --> 01:27:43,300
whole lot of coaches that are
going to see that and say, I
1069
01:27:43,308 --> 01:27:46,900
want to come here all the
benefits of blacks Burger worth
1070
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:56,100
the negatives that are.
So I feel like we definitely if
1071
01:27:56,100 --> 01:27:59,000
we keep seeing this like a
pretty much this point unless we
1072
01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:04,800
went out, you know, I think this
year has been subpar
1073
01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:08,400
unacceptable in terms of of
where I thought we would be.
1074
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:11,600
And what I thought we would do
and where we would end up is the
1075
01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:19,600
only thing that saves this year
is because if went still feels
1076
01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:23,300
confident, as I cannot think of
the guy's name who was under
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01:28:23,300 --> 01:28:27,600
Frank back in.
We got lost a job in 95 or he
1078
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:31,400
couldn't 95.
If he doesn't come out and say I
1079
01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:33,100
think this is more covid than
anything.
1080
01:28:33,100 --> 01:28:38,000
I think it was so funky.
I think it was so fucked up that
1081
01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:41,300
nobody could do anything good.
We had we didn't have our
1082
01:28:41,300 --> 01:28:44,600
Stadium here.
We couldn't try one more Mille,
1083
01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:47,400
we can do anything.
Everything was so far off
1084
01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:51,700
normal, I'm giving one of the
year and, you know, if he comes
1085
01:28:51,700 --> 01:28:57,400
and says it will probably be
Okay but I think our issue will
1086
01:28:57,400 --> 01:29:05,200
become if next year stadiums
full and you know where Aidan
1087
01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:08,300
for again people me like there's
no difference man.
1088
01:29:09,000 --> 01:29:11,400
Yeah well maybe next year we're
talking about probably know
1089
01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:24,700
Herbert true talking about
probably know you we're talking
1090
01:29:24,700 --> 01:29:30,100
about.
Who else do you think is going
1091
01:29:30,100 --> 01:29:33,400
to go?
Is it rolling might lie?
1092
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:38,300
But the way Rooks played this
year, his stocks not going to be
1093
01:29:38,300 --> 01:29:42,700
as far up because even more.
So this year for Brooke It
1094
01:29:42,700 --> 01:29:45,100
showed in, probably more of an
NFL based system.
1095
01:29:45,700 --> 01:29:50,200
He's not strong and that hurts
him.
1096
01:29:50,300 --> 01:29:52,600
So he might say, no, I'm going
to come back cuz I think I can
1097
01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:55,100
do better in this system next
year and screw it.
1098
01:29:55,100 --> 01:29:58,300
If I do, I'll get my masters in
something in be further
1099
01:29:58,300 --> 01:30:02,900
educated.
Yeah, so yeah, so that's what
1100
01:30:02,900 --> 01:30:08,300
you're looking at right now.
So I don't know if we're As good
1101
01:30:08,300 --> 01:30:12,700
or better next year than this
year but if we're still losing
1102
01:30:12,700 --> 01:30:16,100
these dumb shit ass games like
this today.
1103
01:30:16,700 --> 01:30:21,300
Yep I mean it's going to be a
bad look and it's going to be
1104
01:30:21,300 --> 01:30:24,400
something that if it's not
addressed this year it's going
1105
01:30:24,400 --> 01:30:27,100
to be addressed next year.
And like I said, every year that
1106
01:30:27,100 --> 01:30:30,700
we end up putting out Aiden For
Worse.
1107
01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:35,100
You know Blacksburg lose a
little loses a little bit more
1108
01:30:35,100 --> 01:30:39,600
luster man and move on.
There's only so long we can live
1109
01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:44,600
off of.
Mike Vick Frank Beamer Bud,
1110
01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:48,600
Foster and Enter Sandman, we've
only so long, we can love all
1111
01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:53,200
from 95 to twenty ten or Twenty.
Yeah, because right now, I mean,
1112
01:30:54,500 --> 01:30:58,700
you know, we're still recruiting
off of what we were then and not
1113
01:30:58,700 --> 01:31:03,100
what we are now.
And even every in every year
1114
01:31:03,100 --> 01:31:07,300
that we are further away from
that that gets that that's
1115
01:31:07,300 --> 01:31:09,900
that's selling point is a little
bit weaker.
1116
01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:12,600
You know what?
Makes me sad though, because we
1117
01:31:12,608 --> 01:31:15,800
talked about a couple weeks ago,
what we're selling a long
1118
01:31:15,800 --> 01:31:20,400
offense, is so Superior to what
it was 10 15 years ago.
1119
01:31:21,800 --> 01:31:28,100
And that's what makes me sad.
And you know, if you tell me
1120
01:31:28,100 --> 01:31:31,800
tomorrow, they're firing him,
you know, you got to do what you
1121
01:31:31,800 --> 01:31:34,600
got to do.
I like so small.
1122
01:31:35,400 --> 01:31:39,100
So yeah, Brian, anything broken,
other than Notre Dame.
1123
01:31:39,100 --> 01:31:44,000
Upsets number one, Clemson, 4740
that we were watching here.
1124
01:31:44,700 --> 01:31:48,000
And if you folks are wondering,
that's why I want on my tangent.
1125
01:31:48,900 --> 01:31:51,400
Those kids rated the field, they
rated the film.
1126
01:31:51,500 --> 01:31:53,400
Field.
We talked about that and we
1127
01:31:53,400 --> 01:31:57,900
talked about just how this the
reason you guys are listening to
1128
01:31:57,900 --> 01:32:06,500
us talk and we think that we pay
money to go to the games.
1129
01:32:06,500 --> 01:32:08,900
The reason that we pay money to
go to the tailgates, I mean this
1130
01:32:08,900 --> 01:32:13,800
shit makes you feel good.
Even, even even when you lose
1131
01:32:13,800 --> 01:32:17,700
when talking about it still kind
of makes you feel good.
1132
01:32:17,700 --> 01:32:22,300
So You know, for what it's
worth, you know, that that's
1133
01:32:22,300 --> 01:32:25,600
something that hopefully we can
move back towards once once we
1134
01:32:25,600 --> 01:32:27,600
figure things out with this
covid thing guys.
1135
01:32:27,600 --> 01:32:30,600
So because that's definitely
missed this year.
1136
01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:35,300
Like I said, win or lose.
So yeah, I think that's going.
1137
01:32:35,300 --> 01:32:37,600
That's all I really got to say
about it, buddy.
1138
01:32:37,800 --> 01:32:41,400
Let's wrap it up, man.
I'll take care of this episode
1139
01:32:41,400 --> 01:32:44,200
of The Boundary Corner podcast
longer than usual.
1140
01:32:44,200 --> 01:32:48,700
But lot going on in our heads
tonight, I'm Curtis Wilson.
1141
01:32:49,400 --> 01:32:52,000
I'm Brian siglo.
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01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:56,500
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01:32:56,500 --> 01:33:02,600
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1144
01:33:02,600 --> 01:33:05,100
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
1145
01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:10,900
And as always, he plays Us in,
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1146
01:33:10,900 --> 01:33:15,000
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He lives in the NRV, please
1147
01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:18,100
check him out at Bloom
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1148
01:33:18,100 --> 01:33:21,000
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This month with one of his
1149
01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:24,700
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1150
01:33:25,300 --> 01:33:30,900
And as always Win or lose.
Let's go.
1151
01:33:31,700 --> 01:33:44,300
Okey spend my youth just
rambling around.