Hokies Douse the Flames
Boundary Corner Podcast
Hokies Douse the Flames

This week we recap the Hokies coming out on the good end of a 1 point game as they snap their losing streak and douse the Liberty Flames in Lynchburg 23-22. We also discuss the biggest matchups and playoff implications of rivalry weekend and look at what this would mean, hypothetically, if we already had a 12 team playoff.

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And welcome back to the boundary
Corner podcast, back with my

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partner back from Orlando mr.
Searcy glad I am Curtis Wilson

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and this episode of The Boundary
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Curtis and Brian.
Sent you buddy and grab a stick

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back.
What about back?

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We're back, we're back.
How is Orlando?

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First of all, it was pretty
awesome, dude, it was pretty

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awesome.
We had a good time.

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We were there?
Are for a week when you guys

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were we're on live.
Last week, we were coming back

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from from MGM, where the or
Hollywood Studios whatever it

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was we were heading to the
parking lot.

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When you guys went live got to
jump in and watch a little bit

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on the trip, back to the house
so it was pretty cool being on

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the other side of things they're
actually it's pretty funny,

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Brian was texting like, all
right, get on a plane, won't be

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able to see the game for Next
hour, then you're popping up and

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you're like back I'm back, I'm
back, I'm back.

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I'm watching the game again.
But yeah, so we had a connecting

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flight.
We went we went to from Richmond

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to Charlotte and then Charlotte
Orlando.

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So I was like all right I gotta
kind of work work as much as I

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can pull up my phone watch a
little bit here, watch a little

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bit there, I got to see all of
the real-time got to see all of

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the all of the first and all the
fourth and kind of spots here

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and there the Second and third.
Nice.

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Well, let's talk about that.
But before we talk about the

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upset of Liberty, the 2322 win,
obviously, you know, on our

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minds and our thoughts, all the
UVA tribute switch for both

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schools, give them massive
Kudos, give kudos around the

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country.
I mean, when Liberty said they

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were going with their Blue Tech,
pivoted hard, you could tell

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there was no names on the back
of jerseys the Rolled out which

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tally I'm sure is going to have
conversations with us in about a

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month about wearing orange.
We were good in orange, but that

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was awesome to see the blue and
the orange there.

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The helmet stick, we're
undefeated in all orange.

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Since since Beamer, right, I'd
have to go look at that.

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Where's Clark?
Where's Clarke ruling that.

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Clark.
If you're listening tonight, pop

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us a message about the record in
Orange because I know, Clark

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would know the helmet stickers.
Were awesome too again from

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across the country but I think
the one that got me and you

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Brian the most was what the
football staff and Coach

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practice with fontelle Minds.
Yeah, that was big like really

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great gesture.
Really good for font.

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Oh, I know that was probably
meant a lot to him.

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To be there and to be able to do
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You know, out front in front of
everybody.

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I think that was that was a
really good gesture and I know

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I'm sure he appreciates it.
Really?

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Yeah, I mean, he was up there
with the three players with

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Coach pry, leading them out,
onto the field with the UVA

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saber flag.
It was just really cool to see

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and all that, you know, you
know, these guys were playing

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with both schools, both schools,
you playing now with on the back

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of your mind.
You know, Lynchburg is an hour

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Charlottesville roughly two
hours and it's not like these

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schools are, you know, six hours
apart there up the road?

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Yeah, a lot of these guys played
with each other so I'll give

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that play with each other in
high school play with you.

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Each other colonists each other
in high school so I mean yeah

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there's there's still a
Brotherhood across these these

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teams in the Commonwealth.
Absolutely.

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Well Brian, let's say this, it's
finally good to be wrong.

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It is first time in a while man.
First time in a while we have

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been wrong on picking against
the Hokies and you know, we love

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to see it.
And, you know, let's jump right

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into it.
Let's talk about the side of the

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ball.
That may be played its best

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game, and that's the offense
and, you know, especially the

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Run game.
If you take out Grant Wells, got

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sacked, 6-times not good, you
know, somewhere on him somewhere

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on the old line, but if you take
out all of his sacks, Hence, the

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net.
The Hokies ran the ball over.

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That 4.7 a care?
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I joked with Brian.
Brian.

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If we were in 4.7 and carry,
what would I record be all year?

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And you're like, seven wins,
maybe a twin like at least at

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least six.
I mean, Middle East, I'm going

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high in there and I mean it was
obviously by Jaylon Holston 99

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yards, three touchdowns career
day for him.

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What did you see?
I know you looked at a little

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extra tape, you know, the last
couple days, what was it

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different about?
He looked different Saturday,

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just watching him live and I
know you've looked a little bit

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deeper at the tape than I've had
a chance to.

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I mean, it helps with the holes
were a little bit bigger than

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they've been for them all year.
So that was, that was

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beneficial.
We were moving somebody's a

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little bit more not necessarily
get into the second level.

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Like, I'd like to see, but we
Were able to move the guys on

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the defensive line a lot better
than we have for most of the

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season.
And that enabled Holston to kind

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of get those, you know, three to
five yard chunks.

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Instead of those one 22-yard
chunks we've been seeing from

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him for most of the Season,
100%, And then Keshawn, King and

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is sort of spell backup change
of pace roll 11 478.

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I mean, he came in and exploded,
not only with that.

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Also had a big pass play.
We'll talk about, but I was

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looking Back and I was going
through the data in the stats

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after the game and I think the
big key here inviting you kind

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of mentioned it.
We're gonna talk about the

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offensive line a few minutes
here but those two guys had a

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combined - 2 yards in the net.
That's huge because it tells

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when I talk to you about it, it
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there was no penetration on the
defensive side of the ball or if

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it was it was at the line of
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It was not in the backfield.
Exactly.

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Yeah, a lot not a lot of
negative plays in this one and

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that's really big for a team
that's struggling offensively.

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If we're not backing up, but
whether it's the - plays that

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were allowing or if it's those
unforced errors, if we're not

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backing up a lot, you're going
to have a lot more success.

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You have a lot more sustained
drives, you're going to be able

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to keep your offense on the
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And that that was big for us.
Because I mean, when we look at

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the like time of possession and
plays ran and stuff like that,

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this is one of our better games
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Yeah, it seemed like we were
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The guys were always going
forward falling forward where I

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feel like that's such a big key
in this thing, Ron.

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I know.
Yeah, he's smiling.

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He's all about the offensive
line.

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Definitely probably the best Run
game of the season without a

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doubt tease him a question.
I know you mentioned me right 41

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on you said this the last couple
games might have been Parker

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Clements best games.
He's definitely from where he

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was.
I mean it's slow.

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It's like if you're not beating
we're not beating the world here

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but it's embedded.
And what we're we're getting

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back to where we.
I think we expected him to be

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and I think it goes Those good
evening Levar.

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How you doing tonight?
It goes back to I was telling

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you it's like it's the muscle
memory thing Robbie talked about

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last week, right?
Is it finally kicking in what

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Rudolph and went.
Bowling want him to do it.

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Finally is it finally connecting
in his body?

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Like you know you've told me
before is you're supposed to

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take this step in this scheme
and is it finally he's taking

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the right steps and things like
that will be talked about it and

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we know when we talked about the
the jumping off sides thing.

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And, you know, we said that a
lot of that is you thinking too

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much up here, about what you're
going to do and how you going to

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do it and how you need to get a
step and all this other stuff.

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If you're trusting your
Technique, if you feel like you,

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you know how the play is going
to go, what your responsibility

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is and you're not thinking also
about a whole lot of shit

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pre-snap.
It's going to be a lot easier

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for you to execute
Abso-freakin'-lutely.

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Now for one guy, especially in
the Run game, to be his first

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time on the college field.
We saw Xavier chaplain for the

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first time playing left tackle.
Now every time he did have

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Solace at guard so he had you
know that that old friend that

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we know Silas was always going
to be better at guard.

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But when you got a chance to
not, look at not only looking at

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it live.
When you saw big number 65 come

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in, but when you get to look at
the tape, what was he doing?

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Where it's like, first of all?
Holy shit.

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He's a freshman.
And we saved his red shirt.

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Yeah, we saved his red shirt.
He's out there.

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Moving bodies in the Run game.
Pretty consistently.

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And I would say I mean from a
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probably the best blocking from
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Tackle, we've had for the year
for the plays that he was in

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there.
We obviously saw that he had a

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couple, couple plays here and
there that weren't great,

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especially in the past game.
But I really liked what I saw

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from him in the Run game for
this for the snaps that he was

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in there and he did get kind of
abused on the the the sack for a

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safety.
There were a couple times he got

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Darrell Robinson, who is their
best defensive end and he is a

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guy you can see with some of the
moves he made some big plays

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Saturday for Liberty.
There were a couple times he got

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a hold of him and Robinson's
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So he's 21. 22 years old.
He's a full grown man.

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And I he just just like, yeah,
you're nothing locked him in, he

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washed him out.
Yeah yeah just a dim hammered.

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And um now there were quite a
few sacks.

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I think the total was six.
Yeah, six total sacks, just

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looking at it, they weren't all
on the line.

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There were a couple times where
Grant Wells was I don't know

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what he was doing.
I'd say at least two were on

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Wells, okay?
Because I mean there were a

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couple where he took the sack
and when he could have easily

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just gotten rid of the football.
and then there was one where you

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want him to take the sack so
that that's kind of If it's not

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there, you'd rather take the
sack throw it away.

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So, the clock keeps moving.
Yeah.

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So again not all on them and I
know you said you saw it from

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Kaplan, but challenge, a true
freshman first time ever

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playing.
Yeah.

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And so that is what it is and I
know you had a beef with him

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being in that situation close
around the goal line.

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I did not like that.
Yeah, I did.

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Ya ever hear the text is like it
was like we were at the fire.

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I've and it's just like, I
wouldn't put him in here and

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they did.
But, you know, it in the end, it

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didn't kill us, he came close
with a one-point game, give it a

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safety and close, but I think if
anything with helmets now look

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what they did to you, how do you
counter when they do this again,

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it's on film.
And the thing that me and you

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have talked about all year for
certain guys, getting it live,

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seeing the game speed.
Moment didn't seem too big for

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him and the stuff that he
struggled with his stuff that

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can be cleaned up, and it's
probably attributed to being a

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guy who's 18 years old.
Yeah, and I think the the, the

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big thing when you text me, I
was like, all right I haven't

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been watching.
Yeah, I at that point.

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I just watched the third quarter
over the first quarter.

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I'd been kind of flipping in
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I was like, how much is he you
know, guidance snap wise up to

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this point.
You're like he's played a lot.

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I was like, all right, then if
he's if it's his time to go in

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and says time to go in, you did
say.

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That's just how it is.
If you're getting a guy.

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Used to game Speed game
situations.

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Then you're going to put him in
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You see what he can do.
See what you got, 100%, 100%.

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All right.
Rob Ryan before we move over to

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the pass game, let's just
because it's the night before

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Thanksgiving.
This is what I'm drinking on

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tonight, a little smooth, Ambler
contradiction whiskey. 92 proof

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will Whiskey and Water over here
for me.

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What are you drinking on?
I got a little little whiskey

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and ginger.
Whiskey and gin you.

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I got a beer in the hole in the
hole.

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I'm just going to take another
one of them.

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When I'm done with that one, do
do do share of what you're

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drinking on the night.
If you're listening out there,

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all right, pass game, Brian.
If I told you last Tuesday,

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Kayla Smith is going to have one
catch for five yards.

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Did you think this would be a
win for the Hokies?

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I would have said yeah, we
losing that one.

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Ain't no way that we're going to
pull it out.

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If Caleb's getting one, catch
for five yards because to me,

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that sounds like, we're not
doing a whole lot at through the

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air.
And we didn't do a whole lot

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through the air, but we did a
lot more than I would have

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expected.
Given this myth had one catch

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for five yards, well, we were
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granted not turn the ball over.
We didn't have any turnovers all

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day.
You know he threw for 70%.

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He did take some.
Taxi through for 70% though. 14

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to 20, but of those 14
completions 10 were either too

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tight ends are running backs.
So, you know, and I know some of

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the plays were big, they were
little check towns.

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Like I mean, Gallo had that flat
pass where they just kind of

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forgot about him and he made
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Absolutely hey.
And then, you know your boy your

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boy, your boy played a little
bit more, there are sometimes

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where Gallo was not on the field
with Daquan right here.

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By himself out there and he
popped a big play as well.

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Yeah, yeah, we saw Little Mix
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ends, good to see right, kind
of, get back into the game,

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playing there after kind of
being somewhat absent, the

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previous, two games, get him
back involved in the offense

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Gallo kind of getting lost on a
couple plays, they lose him,

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he's able to get upfield, get
some good yardage and then we

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Had kind of strategic first
down, catch has moved like stick

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movers from from Blue and Loft
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So I mean that was kind of a
little bit everybody working in

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there.
Yeah, you know, and kind of took

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up some of the slack that we had
from from Caleb.

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Not having a lot of targets, not
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Very much either, wasn't, it
wasn't just that, you know, he

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only had one catch of five
yards, he didn't have a ton of

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targets He didn't have a ton of
targets at all and you know you

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talked about the little short
stick movers.

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Jaden blue had one of those
Lofton.

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Keshawn King had quite a few
check towns along.

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Had a couple check Downs along
with the big play and we had

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three really explosive plays in
each of those three explosive

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plays to help set up things for
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I'll tell you what king does so.
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that he catches those little
those little Drop downs, or

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there's a little quick swings
and he's got that, like just a

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little extra gear that the
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Think they have an angle on it
and they don't.

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And next thing, you know what
looks like a 23-yard game ends

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up being a first down or 25
yards down.

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Even if everybody plays that
angles.

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Um, there were a couple passes
though that Wells didn't miss.

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That could have been big, but
they were just a hair late and

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again.
And seeing the things we're

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seeing where, you know, he kind
of is what he is couple big to

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me to the biggest stats was the
third and fourth down

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conversions Hokies 9 of 20 1343
on forth on that right at 50%

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all I'll take that every day.
I'll take that every day between

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third and fourth down, you can
be right at 50%.

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And how about in the red zone?
We have four opportunity or

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excuse me, five opportunities
because at the end there, but

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they punched it in three times
and in a punch it in when it

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mattered, they did take a couple
risks and everything but those

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stats we talked about it kind of
all year, right?

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We've talked about it a lot, we
talked about the Run game.

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We've talked about third down,
we've talked about Red Zone,

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efficiency, for the first time,
all year Everything was on the

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right side.
Yeah, yeah.

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We finally kind of put, you
know, we talked about Keys every

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week, right?
Yes, we do.

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And usually we're good for
about, you know, we usually have

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two or three on each side of the
football and maybe we hit one of

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those on each side of the
football, maybe two on the

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defensive side.
We finally got the offense where

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they were hitting about two or
three of the of the keys.

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They were actually okay.
Okay, check you actually check

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them off here.
Yeah, in the thing is, I don't

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even talk about those keys.
I didn't I didn't because I had

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preached them all year and I'm
like, I'm changing this up.

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The keys were tackles for loss
on them and US.

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Yeah, they did their thing, but
we match them in the tackles for

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loss in the sacks category, you
know.

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Yep.
You know, and the thing is a

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couple of our sites, we had five
twelve total, tackles for loss,

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five sacks, a couple of our
sacks.

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The one thing I said, I said we
have to win the turnovers.

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This is a team that turns the
ball over.

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If we can get turnovers we got
to one led to a touchdown the

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other red, the game out.
Yep.

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Kudos on the defense, which
we'll talk about a little while.

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Special teams was more of a was
the stock market though.

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There were some high highs and
there were some ugly lows

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big-time big-time man.
So you buy you open it up.

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We got a trick play.
I mean we finally we finally

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see.
Okay, we get up.

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We get a fake punt there, which
was no fake field goal.

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Oh, sorry.
Thank you.

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Little freshman, John love
running for his life, gets a

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first but it was hey, held onto
the ball though.

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You know, love that because that
was a big hit and the ball that

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was a hit, but the perfect
little option there.

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Peter more, the last couple
weeks has looked more

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consistently like Peter Moore.
Yeah, we've talked about there

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some games where he starts out
booming and then he looks like

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crap for a while.
Then he gets back this game.

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He looked good.
I mean, - 98 yards because the

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Mario decided to try to feel
that punt, which he should not

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have, but there were some issues
in the in the kick return game.

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I mean, we gave up a touchdown
in the kick return to shit.

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Joe, Louis a guy who had been
out and we gave up some other

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big ones, you know, tomorrow.
Go ahead, 37 yard kick return.

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So it wasn't Perfect by any
means, but I guess you can say,

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I guess special teams offset.
Yeah.

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It probably like, probably a net
zero here but you know, you hate

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it on the, you know, the side of
things where you allow a

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touchdown on a kickoff.
And some of that is complacency,

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I think we get used to guys,
kicking a deep, guys, not bring

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it out of the end zone.
And next thing, you know, You

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know, you're not taking you not
where you need to be true.

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So very true and I think
probably, we saw probably more

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returns out of the end zone in
this game than we've seen for

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most of the year.
And I think it may be mentality.

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Why is it just?
They weren't ready to have to

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cover that many kicks, which is,
it's a wild thing to say, but

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yeah, it's true.
But all in all that kind of

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washed out.
Now, let's flip the defense

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because this defense surrendered
13 points to a team averaging

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30.
Yes, it does say 22.

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I don't count special teams and
obviously, I Safety opted for a

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strictly.
Look at what the defense gave

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up.
They gave up 13 points on the

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team that's averaging 30.
They gave up 332.

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Total yards, which is almost 100
yards less.

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And when you take a look at a
one point game, every yard

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matters, 50 yards here.
There could have been the

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difference where the Hokies are
on the L.

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But Brian, I think the thing
that maybe we had said it needs

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to happen and it did From
process after the game, Chris

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more of calls the game.
And I think you noticed some

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stuff about problem to sideline,
when you heard about it, you

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kind of again, I didn't, I'm
trying to watch the game, but

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also have kids running around
the house, but you said, you

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notice something about Brent
Pride while you were watching

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the game that you hadn't seen
previous.

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I mean you look more engaged
with what was going on on the

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especially on the offensive side
but also with, with the defense,

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being able to understand the
situation little bit more, I

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think you saw that, you know,
with the fake field goal.

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I mean you saw that with how we
kind of close the game out, both

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on the defensive side, on the
offensive side, it just look

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like we were more put together
and organized in those moments

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that matter.
Now, let me ask this, you

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watched parts of the game live.
I know you've looked at some

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tape, any noticeable differences
on the wait.

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Chris Marv called the game,
from, what you've seen with the

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tape of print prop.
I saw a little bit more cover

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to, than we had seen with prior
recently.

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I saw more consistent
aggressiveness and I think we

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saw a little bit more of a mix
and match with some Personnel

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that we hadn't seen with prai.
And I think some of those things

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ended up paying off for us.
And we'll talk about a little

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bit of that here we especially
when we get to the line backing

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unit lately.
Well, let me ask this.

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When you say we saw a lot more
cover to is it just the scheme

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we're playing?
Or is do you think this is more

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philosophical thing with more
where I know like what's for

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those out there?
Because you've explained it to

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me, but explain what a cover to
does for your defense and what

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it allows all the position
groups to do.

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So in particular, I mean we let
our defensive line kind of eat a

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little bit more.
We were a little bit more

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attacking with the linebackers
particularly with the will we've

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Ben.
Splits in a lot with Sam, we

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Blitz a little bit more with
will this week and I think some

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of that paid off, okay.
With the way we were rolling

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coverages in that cover to how
did Shamari look?

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It did some like ban under when
we did those we did to ban under

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when we did say.
Okay, let's just Okay.

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So we were sort of attempting to
if they were going to run Zone

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Blitz sometimes it was, it was
it was a tuba Kinder.

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Look okay got it, got it.
All right.

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Well let's talk about those
position groups and I know we

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want to hit the linebackers but
I want to hit them second

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because I feel like Robbie kind
of called out the D line last

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week.
I don't know if any of them

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listen, but they answered
because they had their best day

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of the year.
Especially Taiwan garbett six,

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tackles three tackles for loss,
two sacks.

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He forced the gain clarity,
Teaching fumble there.

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I mean he'll he had been banged
up for the last month he look

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healthy and he look, you know
like Taiwan we expect it all

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year?
Yeah, he was firing off the

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ball.
There was one when I was looking

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at the tape later.
It was a Sac that he got and

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this was Showing that he was the
where he needed to be physically

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because he kind of had ran out
of the play got blocked and

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quarterback was stepping up
about to take off to run, and he

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covered covered ground so quick
and just got him to the ground.

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One where I was looking at was
like, yeah, he's we're about to

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see a first down run here and it
all of a sudden he closes the

442
00:26:57,900 --> 00:27:01,000
Gap and brings him down for like
a one or two yard sag.

443
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,400
And I was like, oh okay, that
that's a little different And we

444
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:05,700
haven't seen that in a few
weeks.

445
00:27:07,100 --> 00:27:10,700
That's that's also awesome to
hear about that.

446
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,900
Now, let's also talk about the
inside guys, because a couple of

447
00:27:13,900 --> 00:27:17,500
those guys had some good games
and we saw a young face we'd see

448
00:27:17,500 --> 00:27:21,700
no earlier.
Tyler gets sad Kendrick is to

449
00:27:21,700 --> 00:27:25,700
tackle all salt Kendrick had a
few balls down and we saw moist

450
00:27:25,700 --> 00:27:30,300
and get some more run, including
a tackle for loss, Kendra's best

451
00:27:30,300 --> 00:27:33,600
game by far the whole season.
Okay, okay, and he's been

452
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,600
playing good.
He been playing.

453
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,600
He'd been getting a lot of
mentions but again, is it that

454
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,800
covered too?
And the cover to man underwear?

455
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:45,100
It's like, listen, we've got the
two safeties back if something's

456
00:27:45,100 --> 00:27:51,600
given up underneath, it's okay.
Go attack and we were planning

457
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,000
on playing around with that
coverage to.

458
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,200
And I think that let them, I
think they, we were twisting a

459
00:27:56,208 --> 00:28:00,500
lot more to front and that gave
them a little bit more

460
00:28:00,500 --> 00:28:04,400
opportunity in the, in the past
Rush game to kind of create some

461
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,800
confusion, get the hands up,
make some plays there.

462
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,200
Nice.
So, again, defensive line, you

463
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,300
know, again looked really good
against Liberty.

464
00:28:16,300 --> 00:28:18,600
Now, let's go to the linebacker
room because this is the one

465
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:23,200
that kind of, maybe we saw some
foreshadowing to 2023 for the

466
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,800
Hokies.
Now, first of all, give kudos to

467
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:30,500
Dax Dax, felt like the normal,
that's per batch production, you

468
00:28:30,500 --> 00:28:33,400
know, six tackles, he had a
sack, he had a tackle and a half

469
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,400
or loss.
But then you look at kill

470
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,300
Alison.
Second on the team.

471
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:46,300
In tackles with five, he had a
sack, he had two tackles for

472
00:28:46,300 --> 00:28:50,000
loss.
He had a fumble recovery when I

473
00:28:50,008 --> 00:28:52,400
saw that fumble recovery where
he was located.

474
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,600
I said, Brian, I can't really
see it on a live film.

475
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,500
Where is he playing?
So, where was he aligned a lot

476
00:28:58,500 --> 00:29:02,300
of the day Brian.
Most of the time he was a will,

477
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,300
which we hadn't really seen him
play.

478
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,700
Way in about a month.
Yeah, he's supposed to be kind

479
00:29:07,700 --> 00:29:10,900
of rotating.
And it's am the last four games.

480
00:29:11,700 --> 00:29:14,600
He was playing a lot of Will and
and doing a lot of big things

481
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,500
they're probably definitely had
his best game playing will of

482
00:29:18,500 --> 00:29:21,800
the Season.
He looked like the moment was

483
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,600
never too big for him.
He was only you know really out

484
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:29,600
of position out of out of the
spot a handful of times in the

485
00:29:29,608 --> 00:29:33,300
game.
He was really active rushing,

486
00:29:33,300 --> 00:29:37,100
the passer and he did a good job
in coverage.

487
00:29:39,300 --> 00:29:41,800
That's awesome to hear because I
say foreshadowing, because if

488
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:46,200
he's playing well, Tisdale to
not play as much it will and I'm

489
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:50,300
wondering if Tisdale comes back.
Do you think Tisdale would have

490
00:29:50,300 --> 00:29:53,600
enough of a grass of the defense
to move over to Mike?

491
00:29:54,100 --> 00:29:56,700
And we're Lawson would be the
will linebacker.

492
00:29:57,300 --> 00:30:00,300
That's a great question and
that's something that I'm going

493
00:30:00,300 --> 00:30:05,800
to keep my This offseason, if he
comes back because that's

494
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,300
something that could give us
some more athleticism at the

495
00:30:09,300 --> 00:30:11,900
linebacker position across the
board, which is probably the one

496
00:30:11,900 --> 00:30:17,800
area that we have struggled in
is athleticism and Mike, you

497
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,600
know, Dax is who he is.
We know that when he's coming

498
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:25,900
forward towards the line of
scrimmage pretty darn good when

499
00:30:25,900 --> 00:30:28,700
he's having to retreat what he's
having to chase guys and

500
00:30:28,700 --> 00:30:34,800
coverage not as Eight, right?
So, you know, if we can put

501
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,600
Tisdale in that position and we
still, you know, we got other

502
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,500
guys that are that are haven't
played as many Snaps are going.

503
00:30:41,500 --> 00:30:43,400
Probably going to have something
to say about that.

504
00:30:45,100 --> 00:30:48,400
But you bring back Tisdale you,
at least, have a proven

505
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:53,300
commodity at that spot.
And I know prize isn't afraid to

506
00:30:53,300 --> 00:31:00,800
go under sized at Mike, no.
So no, no, he's not at all, but

507
00:31:00,900 --> 00:31:03,900
Again, I think seeing loss in
there and then see him play as

508
00:31:03,900 --> 00:31:05,400
well as he did.
Yeah.

509
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:10,100
If he had just had an average
game but he was clearly maybe

510
00:31:10,100 --> 00:31:12,400
watching him.
Go sideline to sideline is

511
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,100
ridiculous.
The amount of ground.

512
00:31:15,100 --> 00:31:17,700
He covers and how quick he
covers it is crazy.

513
00:31:17,900 --> 00:31:23,700
I was watching One Pursuit and
like It was him and Dax kind of

514
00:31:23,700 --> 00:31:27,800
moving in tandem, but it was
like for every two steps Dax was

515
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:32,100
taken Lawson was taken one and
covering the the same ground in

516
00:31:32,100 --> 00:31:34,100
those two.
It's like he so he was catching

517
00:31:34,100 --> 00:31:36,800
up with with Dax pretty damn
quick there.

518
00:31:38,500 --> 00:31:43,300
And he's just I mean he moves so
well so it be if he can kind of

519
00:31:43,300 --> 00:31:47,100
get again another 10 or 15
pounds on him and get a little

520
00:31:47,100 --> 00:31:50,100
bit more comfortable in the
system, the sky's the limit for

521
00:31:50,100 --> 00:31:52,300
what he can do.
Awesome.

522
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,200
Awesome.
Let's talk about the am because

523
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:59,500
again, Chianti Jenkins tied for
the team lead in tackles had a,

524
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,900
you know, a tackle for loss as
well and Walker.

525
00:32:02,900 --> 00:32:05,200
I know you said you mentioned,
you have a great game if he

526
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:09,400
showed that ability to spell and
I think.

527
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,400
Although its Dynamic is Lawson,
is it Sam?

528
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:18,600
I think he onto Jenkin is that
steady Eddie just talking with

529
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,900
him earlier this year, he's
going to do the right thing.

530
00:32:20,900 --> 00:32:22,400
He's going to be in the right
place.

531
00:32:22,500 --> 00:32:25,900
He knows what he's supposed to
do there and as you go into next

532
00:32:25,900 --> 00:32:29,400
year.
We were worried about, we're

533
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,000
going to lose it.
We're going to lose a Sam.

534
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,700
I don't think we worry about
that anymore because I think I

535
00:32:34,700 --> 00:32:39,700
think, I think if you get lost
in settled in it will then then,

536
00:32:39,700 --> 00:32:42,900
you know, you still have Jenkins
and then you have, you know,

537
00:32:42,900 --> 00:32:45,300
Walker getting enough reps or he
feels comfortable.

538
00:32:46,100 --> 00:32:47,900
You're riding out another year,
right?

539
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:53,300
I don't know and Jenkins.
I mean, the first two series

540
00:32:53,300 --> 00:32:56,000
were we force them off the feel
real quick?

541
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:57,800
I mean, he was the guy getting
it done.

542
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,100
Done.
And late in the game.

543
00:33:01,500 --> 00:33:04,900
He was the guy kind of getting
it done to when the defensive

544
00:33:04,900 --> 00:33:08,600
line was feasting he was the guy
that was kind of cleaning up

545
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,400
some stuff.
If the ball did get out there,

546
00:33:10,900 --> 00:33:12,900
nice.
All right, let's talk one more

547
00:33:12,900 --> 00:33:14,800
piece.
Let's talk about the secondary

548
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:19,300
and That first touchdown Drive
did not look pretty.

549
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:26,600
For the Sounder know, you had
the big throw down the sideline,

550
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:31,500
on the third down there.
Just, I'd the good position to

551
00:33:31,500 --> 00:33:33,000
kind of, make a play on the
ball.

552
00:33:33,900 --> 00:33:37,600
After that, you had the big run
Hawkins gets a bad run fit, kind

553
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:43,500
of gets ate up by the tight end
and then the next play that it's

554
00:33:43,500 --> 00:33:47,200
the quarterback draw.
Another bad run.

555
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,700
Fit loses leverage their would
have to punch it.

556
00:33:50,900 --> 00:33:55,000
The End Zone there and you know,
some of that they kind of work

557
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,700
themselves into a good alignment
to work against for that.

558
00:33:58,700 --> 00:34:02,200
Draw by motioning, the running
back out of the backfield.

559
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,800
But you know, when you're there,
you're able to make the play,

560
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,800
you got to you got to get a good
fit, not lose leverage, and come

561
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:13,199
in there and make the play.
But you know, after that they

562
00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:17,100
settled down completely only
giving up two field goals the

563
00:34:17,100 --> 00:34:20,699
rest of the game and I tell you
what man swords of Lane.

564
00:34:22,199 --> 00:34:26,100
Holy crap, the progression that
young man has made throughout

565
00:34:26,100 --> 00:34:30,000
this year is Crazy.
Chris Coleman, pulled a stat out

566
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,800
there on Twitter, the other day
they targeted him.

567
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:40,699
Six times one catch - yards.
That's a great day for Corner

568
00:34:40,699 --> 00:34:42,900
regardless.
What you say he also forced the

569
00:34:42,900 --> 00:34:48,300
fumble that kalai.
Lawson recovered and he himself.

570
00:34:48,699 --> 00:34:50,699
You just feel you where he came
from.

571
00:34:50,900 --> 00:34:53,199
He knows a good football
University or good football,

572
00:34:53,199 --> 00:34:55,699
high school.
But how should we be looking to

573
00:34:55,699 --> 00:34:59,900
Derrick Jones because with
Derrick Jones, you know, you've

574
00:34:59,900 --> 00:35:01,400
got the other guys, he's
coaching, right?

575
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,400
A lot of them have been here.
A while Mansoor is a clean

576
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:08,100
slate, Mansoor came in.
Exact how much credit should

577
00:35:08,100 --> 00:35:12,600
Derek Jones be given in the
development of Mansoor?

578
00:35:13,500 --> 00:35:16,800
I mean, you got to give him some
credit here because he

579
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,600
identified that he's got a young
Talent there.

580
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:25,000
That can step in and be this
really big time contributor in

581
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:30,700
year one.
And yeah, I think, in terms of,

582
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:36,200
we talked about coaching and we
talked about scheme delaying

583
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:40,300
having that clean say, I think
did benefit him because he's

584
00:35:40,700 --> 00:35:42,800
he's not trying to get rid of
any bad habits.

585
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,100
He's not trying to get rid of
old technique, there's none of

586
00:35:46,107 --> 00:35:52,800
that stuff kind of gumming up
the mentals. 99 in and I think

587
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,400
that helped him in that that
helped him be able to kind of

588
00:35:55,900 --> 00:36:00,900
almost Beyond a even footing
with the veterans kind of

589
00:36:00,900 --> 00:36:04,600
starting the year and it was
just, you know, the physicality

590
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,800
and speed of the game had to get
where it needed to be but, you

591
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,300
know, in terms of the mentals he
picked it up real quick and that

592
00:36:11,300 --> 00:36:13,100
was one of the things they
talked about at the start of the

593
00:36:13,100 --> 00:36:17,100
Season that he had really picked
up what he was supposed to be

594
00:36:17,100 --> 00:36:20,200
doing really quickly.
And it was, it was all about,

595
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:24,600
you know, Again, physicality
speed of the game, so and he got

596
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:28,300
there pretty quick as well.
And, you know, when you look at

597
00:36:28,300 --> 00:36:31,100
him and then you get strong back
next year, I think that's,

598
00:36:31,500 --> 00:36:35,700
that's a solid 12 that you feel
pretty good about well.

599
00:36:35,700 --> 00:36:38,800
Plus having guys, like, cam
Johnson who played this year,

600
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,800
some where they've gotten their
feet wet where they've seen,

601
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,700
what it's like, where you, you
know, that there was a couple

602
00:36:44,700 --> 00:36:46,100
times.
Johnson made good plays.

603
00:36:46,100 --> 00:36:49,000
There are some struggles, but
you essentially kind of no.

604
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:53,400
Okay, just from looking.
Adit 10,000 feet, he can play

605
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,600
division.
One college football, he's not

606
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,700
getting crushed out there and
looking terrible.

607
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,600
He's, we've got some steps to
make, but he'll make them exact

608
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,400
know.
Brian, the one thing mean,

609
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,400
you've talked about, especially
in the fourth quarter this year

610
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:10,900
because the fourth quarters have
not been favorable to the

611
00:37:10,900 --> 00:37:17,400
Hokies, the ODU game, the pit
game, Miami at the end, Georgia

612
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,700
Tech Inc, stay there, five
games, right there.

613
00:37:19,700 --> 00:37:23,900
That essentially the whole He's
lost in the fourth quarter, but

614
00:37:23,900 --> 00:37:27,000
this was different.
This fourth quarter looked

615
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,400
completely different, the Hokies
control that quarter beginning

616
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,800
to end.
Yeah, we finally saw a

617
00:37:32,808 --> 00:37:35,000
complimentary football in the
fourth quarter.

618
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:36,900
You start the fourth quarter
down.

619
00:37:37,300 --> 00:37:41,800
Yeah, offense scores and your
defense holds and then your

620
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:48,000
offense runs out the clock.
There is like an concept but we

621
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:49,900
hadn't done it all year.
Yeah.

622
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,500
Game 11.
It and it was, it was the best

623
00:37:53,500 --> 00:37:55,900
for quarter defensive game.
We've seen.

624
00:37:56,300 --> 00:38:00,100
Yeah, hands down.
They played good defense for

625
00:38:00,100 --> 00:38:02,700
four quarters.
We didn't see the fourth

626
00:38:02,700 --> 00:38:05,200
quarter, collapse that we've
seen recently and some of that

627
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,600
has to do with what we talked
about earlier, with the offense,

628
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,700
controlling the flow of the
game.

629
00:38:11,700 --> 00:38:16,600
Yes, even when we're not putting
up a ton of points, the flow of

630
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:21,200
the game was controlled.
The defense wasn't on the Field

631
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,300
getting worked.
And so you had complimentary

632
00:38:24,300 --> 00:38:29,500
football and the defense was
able to close it out, get a big

633
00:38:29,500 --> 00:38:31,900
play.
When they were kind of get, you

634
00:38:31,900 --> 00:38:34,700
know, a good dry by Liberty
going there, made a big play.

635
00:38:34,700 --> 00:38:39,100
Got the ball back offense, gets
on the field drives down.

636
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,500
Take some damn close to them off
the take some time, off the

637
00:38:42,500 --> 00:38:49,400
clock and drive down because
that play that that touchdown

638
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:53,000
late was a signal.
This is about a 45-minute drive.

639
00:38:53,300 --> 00:38:55,400
Yeah.
And so Liberty goes from being

640
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,500
downwards.
Like we have time to score two.

641
00:38:58,500 --> 00:39:00,700
Okay.
It's under eight minutes.

642
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:07,700
We've, you know, we've only put
one score on this team today.

643
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,400
We've only put one score on this
team and that was at the

644
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,000
beginning of the first quarter.
And at that point, they'd only

645
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,900
had three drives that really got
them across the Hokies 40.

646
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:19,500
It's true.
It's true.

647
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:24,700
So it was great to see.
So we close the book on the

648
00:39:24,700 --> 00:39:27,500
Liberty game, Hokies get their
third win of the year.

649
00:39:28,100 --> 00:39:31,800
It felt good.
All right Brian, let's flip to

650
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:32,900
it.
Let's talk about it.

651
00:39:32,900 --> 00:39:36,400
Just a little bit here on the
cancellation of the Commonwealth

652
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:43,500
Cup game this weekend.
So what happens when you don't

653
00:39:43,500 --> 00:39:46,900
mute your other computer you're
working from right there.

654
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:55,300
But in all seriousness, I don't
think when everything happened

655
00:39:55,300 --> 00:39:58,800
last weekend.
For the weekend before that,

656
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,800
excuse me.
I couldn't foresee this game

657
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,500
being played, I just, I couldn't
buy.

658
00:40:04,500 --> 00:40:08,100
Yeah, in all honesty.
So when they announced the

659
00:40:08,100 --> 00:40:10,400
cancellation of this week I
wasn't shocked.

660
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,300
And I completely get it.
Absolutely.

661
00:40:13,300 --> 00:40:16,700
Absolutely.
And I think when you look at,

662
00:40:17,700 --> 00:40:20,500
you know, the timing of
everything, I think they there

663
00:40:20,500 --> 00:40:23,200
was, there was a good job by
everyone, communicating what was

664
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:29,500
happening and And we totally
understand.

665
00:40:29,500 --> 00:40:31,300
I mean I think that's that's the
big thing.

666
00:40:31,300 --> 00:40:37,700
There's you lose a significant
u-33, significant members of

667
00:40:37,700 --> 00:40:40,900
your team you got a lot of
people that are absolutely

668
00:40:40,900 --> 00:40:46,300
hurting right now.
I could not imagine trying to

669
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:51,500
focus on a game of that
magnitude under those

670
00:40:51,500 --> 00:40:56,900
conditions.
No no and and and just like, you

671
00:40:56,900 --> 00:41:01,000
know, the Hokey said we've kind
of left the ball in uva's court

672
00:41:01,100 --> 00:41:04,800
and we're kind of good either
way that they wanted to play it.

673
00:41:06,100 --> 00:41:08,900
Now, that was one of the best
things you saw week is, it's

674
00:41:08,900 --> 00:41:11,800
like, it's up to them.
We're not going to push.

675
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,700
We're not going to try to do
anything.

676
00:41:14,700 --> 00:41:18,500
If they say, they want to play,
we will play if they don't we,

677
00:41:18,500 --> 00:41:20,700
as a community, completely, get
it.

678
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:26,800
And with that being said, I
know, you know, Alan Tisdale

679
00:41:27,900 --> 00:41:31,500
said, I think the week before
the Liberty during the Liberty

680
00:41:31,500 --> 00:41:35,500
game and just saying, you know,
if UVA didn't want to play, you

681
00:41:35,500 --> 00:41:37,800
know, We should head down the
Charlottesville with some of the

682
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,800
players and just kind of show
the respect its football and

683
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,400
this is very informal, it is
bigger than football.

684
00:41:42,700 --> 00:41:46,300
Yep, you know we talked about it
last week, the begin the episode

685
00:41:46,300 --> 00:41:48,800
three young men, lost their
lives and it's amazing.

686
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,100
My Collins is out of hospital
right now.

687
00:41:53,900 --> 00:41:58,700
And you know, it stinks because
it's, you know, usually right

688
00:41:58,700 --> 00:42:00,600
now, we'd be flipping the know
your enemy.

689
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,800
No, the enemy we'd be shit
talking UVA.

690
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:07,400
Leave it going all after it.
A bit of fun hate week, but in

691
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:13,100
this case, you know, you move
forward, you help that

692
00:42:13,100 --> 00:42:14,900
community.
And that team is much as

693
00:42:14,900 --> 00:42:20,600
possible just as human beings.
And I mean, it's nothing but

694
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,700
love this week, we talked about,
this will be a week, but this

695
00:42:23,700 --> 00:42:26,200
week it's nothing but love,
nothing, but love nothing, but

696
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:27,700
love.
All right, Brian.

697
00:42:27,700 --> 00:42:29,900
Let's flip over.
Let's talk a little Hokies news

698
00:42:29,900 --> 00:42:35,700
other sports, let's talk about
the men's suit team, you know.

699
00:42:35,900 --> 00:42:38,200
I'm starting to season out, you
know what?

700
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:44,000
Foreign 15 + 15 + 15 + 1.
Excuse me, I got to remember

701
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:48,000
there were two games played, but
they lose in the finals of the

702
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,400
Charleston classic to the
College of Charleston, where one

703
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:57,800
of my cousin's go.
And the thing is, other than the

704
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:03,400
first game in related for the
Hokies, did not play a good

705
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,600
three games down there at all.
To be a Famous game game,

706
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:10,800
special, with Penn State game,
where they couldn't hit a three.

707
00:43:10,900 --> 00:43:13,700
After the 7-minute Mark, I think
is what it was the rest of the

708
00:43:13,700 --> 00:43:17,800
game.
They didn't shoot well, in

709
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,000
really the last three games
there.

710
00:43:20,500 --> 00:43:24,200
No not at all.
So, in particularly, the Penn

711
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,900
State game, the Penn State game
was about as ugly of a shooting

712
00:43:26,900 --> 00:43:32,900
game, as we'll probably see from
them all year, but they didn't

713
00:43:32,900 --> 00:43:35,000
shoot particularly well,
especially in the second half

714
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:39,600
against Charles.
Then they didn't shoot that well

715
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:45,200
earlier in the tournament.
So I mean, it's just, you know,

716
00:43:45,300 --> 00:43:51,700
we're probably feel good about
how this played out, considering

717
00:43:51,700 --> 00:43:54,900
how poorly they shot.
Yeah.

718
00:43:54,900 --> 00:43:57,700
But at the same time you're kind
of disappointed because those

719
00:43:57,700 --> 00:44:00,300
were that that was a tournament
that you should have one and you

720
00:44:00,308 --> 00:44:05,700
didn't 100% should have one and
eating play like that's kind.

721
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,800
The way you way it there.
It's like okay well considering

722
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:11,800
how bad we shot.
We did.

723
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,500
Alright.
But that was a winnable

724
00:44:14,500 --> 00:44:18,400
tournament that we didn't win.
Yeah, it's those things.

725
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:23,200
That You know, we didn't want to
see this happen, right?

726
00:44:23,300 --> 00:44:27,900
Because we know that last year,
there was that Lowell for a

727
00:44:27,900 --> 00:44:35,100
while and we've got to get there
with minimal losses. 44.

728
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,000
You don't want to put yourself
in the same situation you were

729
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:40,800
in last year.
Where you gotta?

730
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,500
You gotta win out and you gotta
win the ACC tournament.

731
00:44:43,500 --> 00:44:47,100
No, we don't want that.
You don't have to be perfect

732
00:44:47,100 --> 00:44:51,400
after Valentine's and in order
to make the tournament.

733
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:56,500
So again, you know, okay, you
know, okay start the next few

734
00:44:56,500 --> 00:44:58,800
games here.
I'm trying to pull it up on my

735
00:44:59,100 --> 00:45:03,100
phone because, you know, I had
to run out.

736
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,100
We need corn.
Starch for tomorrow, for one of

737
00:45:06,100 --> 00:45:09,700
my wife's dishes and she thought
she had some, but she didn't

738
00:45:10,300 --> 00:45:14,100
want to to grocery stores, do
not attempt to buy corn starch,

739
00:45:14,100 --> 00:45:17,900
the day before Thanksgiving
paprika either zero.

740
00:45:18,700 --> 00:45:21,900
Did you have the same thing?
I had to run out and get some

741
00:45:21,900 --> 00:45:28,300
paprika earlier, nothing.
So I went to food line, nothing

742
00:45:28,300 --> 00:45:31,800
in any of the racks were paprika
like four or five different

743
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:36,900
brands but the food line And I
pulled, you know, there's like

744
00:45:36,900 --> 00:45:39,200
the little like the roller
thing.

745
00:45:39,700 --> 00:45:42,800
Yeah, the rack out and there was
some at the very back of the

746
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:44,900
shelf that had fallen out, the
back of the rack.

747
00:45:44,900 --> 00:45:47,000
So I grabbed one of them bitches
and got out of there.

748
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,100
Lucky lucky you.
They had no cornstarch anywhere.

749
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,800
I wanted to Kroger in food line.
Nothing.

750
00:45:54,300 --> 00:45:57,600
So, you know, I got some if you
need it, man.

751
00:45:59,100 --> 00:46:03,000
I think your mom has some I
think I think I think mama has

752
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,100
some so I'm not the one over
there in the morning and get

753
00:46:05,100 --> 00:46:09,000
some but you know with the
Hokies now it's it's Charleston.

754
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:14,200
Southern on Friday.
Its Minnesota in the ACC Big Ten

755
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:18,400
challenge in Castle next Monday
and then it's Carolina the

756
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,100
Sunday after that.
So this this really this three

757
00:46:21,100 --> 00:46:24,900
inundating in Oklahoma state.
After that, this five-game

758
00:46:24,900 --> 00:46:28,800
stretch is big I think, oh, he's
gotta find out a lot about.

759
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,800
We finally find out a lot about
them will find out a lot about

760
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:35,600
them, but if they don't get out
for in one, I'm worried.

761
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:36,800
Yeah.
Morgan.

762
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,300
And I know, I know, I know, I
know.

763
00:46:39,500 --> 00:46:41,800
All right, women's basketball
stays undefeated.

764
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,800
They are top 15.
Ranked number 11 in the country

765
00:46:45,300 --> 00:46:47,900
did have a close call the other
day, where they were pretty big

766
00:46:47,900 --> 00:46:51,200
lead in the fourth quarter but
smash Missouri today.

767
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:55,500
So good for the lady Hokies when
he had a big on Kentucky in the

768
00:46:55,500 --> 00:46:58,000
first quarter.
You Afford to, you know, let it

769
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:02,500
get tight there too.
Yeah, I just don't like tight.

770
00:47:03,500 --> 00:47:05,100
I'd prefer to.
Yeah.

771
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,500
I'm not certain circumstances
around like saying.

772
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:13,100
Well the only time I like tight
is when it's not my team and I

773
00:47:13,100 --> 00:47:17,300
just want to be entertained.
I mean, that's the only time I

774
00:47:17,300 --> 00:47:21,300
won't type the only time I want
type but again, they're five and

775
00:47:21,300 --> 00:47:28,500
zero and going to the finals of
the or that they win.

776
00:47:28,500 --> 00:47:30,000
Do they want?
That was championship game

777
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:31,300
today?
So they didn't want to be.

778
00:47:31,300 --> 00:47:36,100
That was the the championship
game of the pink flamingo.

779
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,200
That's cool.
Hopefully, get a cool pink

780
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:42,500
flamingo, statue VT rustling
better.

781
00:47:42,500 --> 00:47:46,800
This was several weeks ago, they
did lose some Oh, Ohio State, 18

782
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:52,900
to 13, but Ohio state is a power
in to hang around where they did

783
00:47:53,900 --> 00:47:55,200
the seams going to be good
again.

784
00:47:55,500 --> 00:47:57,300
This seems probably gonna win
the ACC.

785
00:47:57,500 --> 00:48:00,900
This team's going to compete to
have some guys potentially win

786
00:48:00,900 --> 00:48:06,600
national championships
individually and it's really

787
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,800
fun, right?
Because if the SEC network has

788
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:11,300
done nothing, right?
They've got Friday.

789
00:48:11,300 --> 00:48:13,600
They mailed Friday nights during
the winters.

790
00:48:13,900 --> 00:48:17,200
Yes, they have with the
wrestling meet Finally, they

791
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,700
only got something right?
And without having to get like a

792
00:48:20,700 --> 00:48:22,600
bunch of direction from
everybody else.

793
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,500
Like we weren't like actively
complaining or campaigning.

794
00:48:25,900 --> 00:48:29,100
They just actually got it right
on their own and it's too good

795
00:48:29,100 --> 00:48:31,600
for them.
And then, the thing is, the ACC

796
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:35,300
is a good wrestling conference.
Yeah, it's a good wrestling.

797
00:48:35,300 --> 00:48:37,400
So, they have the six in the
eights and it's like this is

798
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:41,000
entertaining.
So, let's hope the boys rebound

799
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:46,900
and can take it iron, Braun.
I want to see your anger face

800
00:48:46,900 --> 00:48:51,000
here so it's coming.
EA Sports announced this week

801
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:57,600
that the NCAA football game is
going to be delayed until 2024.

802
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,600
That's double bird Stone, Cold
Steve Austin style.

803
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:06,000
If you aren't watching tonight,
I hate it.

804
00:49:06,100 --> 00:49:11,300
I hate it and I'll tell you why
I hate it because I know knowing

805
00:49:11,300 --> 00:49:14,300
EA, we're not going to get a
better product because of this

806
00:49:14,300 --> 00:49:20,200
delay.
That is a problem that Brian is

807
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,800
real cop.
We're gonna get like a slightly

808
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,200
different version of mad and
it's still going to be the same

809
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:26,300
thing.
We're going to fucking get in

810
00:49:26,300 --> 00:49:29,200
2023.
It's just coming a year later.

811
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,200
Well maybe they will fool you
Braun.

812
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,800
Maybe they're gonna come on to
complete if they do something

813
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:39,100
that that actually gets that I'm
impressed with and I'll give

814
00:49:39,100 --> 00:49:42,300
them the Kudos in 2024, all
right.

815
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:51,300
Fuck him now and tell them well,
I mean I mean I mean so it was

816
00:49:51,300 --> 00:49:56,500
like I got even with so I just
admitted I thought it was going

817
00:49:56,500 --> 00:49:59,900
to be a somewhat bad in Clone
with some tweaks here and there.

818
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,600
I was still excited about it
because I haven't gotten to play

819
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:08,100
that since 9 years.
Yeah, I mean, 2014, a new game,

820
00:50:08,100 --> 00:50:11,800
a new gang.
I've played it elsewhere but I

821
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,400
haven't played a new game.
Game in that long.

822
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:17,900
All right.
All right so before we get into

823
00:50:17,900 --> 00:50:22,000
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Now, back to the episode.
All right, Brian, let's flip it.

833
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:53,000
Let's talk some other college
football because I think between

834
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:57,800
tomorrow's game or screen
tomorrow's games NFL and the Egg

835
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:03,600
Bowl, the Egg Bowl is always a
uber entertaining game, always

836
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:07,300
Friday, all day, Football
Saturday all day, football

837
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:11,400
between doing decorations
blowing leaves.

838
00:51:11,700 --> 00:51:14,600
We're going to be locked in this
weekend and let's talk about the

839
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:19,700
cfp rankings because there are
few things on here that ground

840
00:51:19,700 --> 00:51:22,900
the fuck out of my gears and
grind.

841
00:51:22,900 --> 00:51:25,000
It did what's the first one?
Give me the first.

842
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:29,500
Well here's my first, my first
of all, let's go top 6 Georgia.

843
00:51:29,500 --> 00:51:33,300
One of how the state to Michigan
3tc you for no issues, none.

844
00:51:33,500 --> 00:51:36,600
None.
By the way, the end of that TCU

845
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:41,400
game that might have been the
most impressive thing I've ever

846
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,300
seen the way a specialty Munich
have together and kick that

847
00:51:44,300 --> 00:51:47,900
field goal to win a game master.
Really impressed.

848
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,500
Here's where my issues begin.
Is it number five?

849
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:58,600
The to Los LSU Tigers.
Who lost by getting their asses

850
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,200
handed to them in Death Valley
against Tennessee.

851
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:05,500
I don't want or two touchdown
game, But they got their asses

852
00:52:05,500 --> 00:52:11,100
handed to them and then their
second loss is to for Florida,

853
00:52:11,100 --> 00:52:13,900
state looks to have a resurgent
year but that was basically a

854
00:52:13,900 --> 00:52:15,600
home game in which they botched
it.

855
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:19,900
The end, they are ahead of the
one loss.

856
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:23,100
USC, Trojans.
I'm not the biggest Southern Cal

857
00:52:23,100 --> 00:52:26,000
fan, 18 years ago.
Officially made me hate them

858
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:30,900
with that game in d.c.
Southern Cal has lost one game.

859
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:36,500
They just beat a good UCLA team.
Yep, a good UCLA team.

860
00:52:36,700 --> 00:52:40,200
Their only loss was to Utah.
Who is another good team?

861
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:47,700
Who just went freaking Major
League two giant marbles at the

862
00:52:47,700 --> 00:52:54,200
end of a game in Utah?
I don't like that Utah or USC

863
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:58,300
has lost one game this year.
One game by one point.

864
00:52:59,100 --> 00:53:03,400
LSU has not the other thing that
grinds my gears is number 7, the

865
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:06,300
Alabama Crimson Tide with their
two losses are ahead of Clemson

866
00:53:06,300 --> 00:53:09,400
with their one loss.
Yes, I know Clemson lost by

867
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:13,100
several scores to Notre Dame who
is resurgent right now.

868
00:53:13,900 --> 00:53:18,600
It's the whole I know you can
lose multiple times in multiple

869
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:22,000
ways.
This team has lost once caliber

870
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,600
of competition that is all in
the eye of the beholder.

871
00:53:26,300 --> 00:53:28,800
That just irritates me.
No to Lost.

872
00:53:28,900 --> 00:53:31,400
You should be above a one-loss
team, this latency.

873
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:37,900
So I'll tell you what grinds, my
gears, the most, and that's LSU

874
00:53:37,900 --> 00:53:40,500
and Alabama being ahead of
Tennessee.

875
00:53:41,100 --> 00:53:43,200
Okay?
I don't care where how low or

876
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:48,600
high you have Tennessee but LSU
and Alabama needle behind them

877
00:53:48,700 --> 00:53:51,200
as long as they have the same
number of losses.

878
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:56,700
Because they beat Alabama, they
beat LSU.

879
00:53:57,100 --> 00:54:00,800
Yes, they did.
They've even things that happen

880
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,200
on the field.
Need to still fucking matter.

881
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,200
Not in the committee sighs.
You got to keep a certain, you

882
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:09,600
got to keep a certain
conference.

883
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,000
Happy you got to keep them
happy.

884
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,100
I mean, they're setting it up
now, where they definitely are

885
00:54:16,100 --> 00:54:19,200
going to get to in there.
Trying to sneak out a Bama back

886
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:20,900
into this bitch.
They are.

887
00:54:21,300 --> 00:54:24,500
They're trying their best.
I don't think that will happen

888
00:54:24,500 --> 00:54:27,300
because I think that will raise
holy hell to everybody

889
00:54:27,300 --> 00:54:30,000
especially us seen, Clemson went
out.

890
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:36,000
If you are right now, the only
reason, but one second, what, if

891
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,200
Ohio State of Michigan's only
losses to the other?

892
00:54:40,500 --> 00:54:42,800
I mean, you absolutely have to
put in both of them before you

893
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:50,900
put in any to loss a lesson, but
we'll see.

894
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:52,900
We'll see.
All right.

895
00:54:53,100 --> 00:54:56,500
So as we talk about the playoff,
you know, me and Brian and we

896
00:54:56,500 --> 00:55:00,300
loved when the 12 idea came up.
I just went into this mode this

897
00:55:00,300 --> 00:55:04,500
week of people continuously out
there and some national media

898
00:55:04,500 --> 00:55:07,600
names and I like the guy listen
to him personally, don't think I

899
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,900
disagree with them on?
A lot is gosh Pate I disagree

900
00:55:10,900 --> 00:55:13,200
with him on the 12th because he
thinks 12 is going to water down

901
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,500
the school.
And I don't think he's looking

902
00:55:15,500 --> 00:55:19,900
at it through the right lens
because I look for, I don't know

903
00:55:19,900 --> 00:55:21,900
if you pulled it up tonight, I'm
sure you did.

904
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:28,700
I look the last week of the
Season they're literally 20

905
00:55:28,700 --> 00:55:33,800
teams that have a shot.
If there was a 12 team playoff,

906
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:37,600
there would be 20 teams that
have a shot to make the

907
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,200
playoffs, some are playing each
other, some are playing there.

908
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:42,700
Some of their biggest most
intense rivals.

909
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:47,400
And because the the cfp
Committees already come out and

910
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:52,200
said that president of the top
six Conference champions are in

911
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:57,200
this or end regardless that's
Cincinnati, Tulane game.

912
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,500
Do it.
They're just because the winner

913
00:56:01,500 --> 00:56:04,000
goes to the championship game,
regardless, they are going to

914
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,000
have to pull everything out.
That game is going to be so

915
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,700
entertaining to watch because
this is defective quarter filing

916
00:56:09,700 --> 00:56:13,700
it.
Yeah, it's a game where whoever

917
00:56:13,700 --> 00:56:18,100
loses is eliminated from the
process eliminated, they have no

918
00:56:18,100 --> 00:56:20,400
chance.
They have no chance in the way.

919
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:24,300
We look, at the way you look at
the rankings right now, the if

920
00:56:24,300 --> 00:56:28,100
this was 12 teams, the AAC is
guaranteed that 65.

921
00:56:28,900 --> 00:56:34,100
None of the other power 5.
Or in the top 25, you've got two

922
00:56:34,100 --> 00:56:40,700
lane at 19, you get UCF at 22,
and you've got Scentsy at 24.

923
00:56:42,300 --> 00:56:44,600
One of them is get one of them
would be getting in.

924
00:56:45,700 --> 00:56:50,500
So, you're talking about that
game, the stakes aren't just go

925
00:56:50,500 --> 00:56:52,600
to the conference Championship.
Stakes are play ball.

926
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:57,300
If we don't win this game, we
can't make the play off into it.

927
00:56:57,300 --> 00:56:59,200
For those who said all these
games.

928
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,300
Just don't matter.
Are you kidding me?

929
00:57:01,500 --> 00:57:04,700
Your I can't.
What time is that guy?

930
00:57:04,700 --> 00:57:08,100
I think that's a Friday
afternoon game which might mean

931
00:57:08,100 --> 00:57:11,700
I need to get the decorations up
early Friday in the rain.

932
00:57:11,700 --> 00:57:13,600
Start early man.
Start early starting today.

933
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:15,300
I need to do it tomorrow.
Might need to do it tomorrow.

934
00:57:15,500 --> 00:57:18,200
Let me hold on, let me look at
that because I think that's a

935
00:57:18,207 --> 00:57:21,100
330 kit.
Home.

936
00:57:21,500 --> 00:57:24,200
No, that is a high noon kick
high noon.

937
00:57:24,700 --> 00:57:27,300
I might be going out tomorrow
and putting up decorations.

938
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:30,500
All right, family, get the hell
out of here.

939
00:57:30,500 --> 00:57:32,800
I gotta put some decorations.
I got your decorations, just

940
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:36,700
leave me alone.
But for real though, and then

941
00:57:36,700 --> 00:57:38,300
let's look at the big 12.
Brian.

942
00:57:39,300 --> 00:57:43,400
You're talking about Kansas
state if they win, they're in.

943
00:57:43,900 --> 00:57:45,700
Yeah.
The Big 12 championship game and

944
00:57:45,700 --> 00:57:47,500
what does that mean in the
future?

945
00:57:47,500 --> 00:57:49,400
It's going to mean, well, they
have a chance to play for the

946
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,200
playoff.
They're playing Kansas.

947
00:57:53,900 --> 00:57:55,700
That's an in-state rivalry right
there.

948
00:57:55,700 --> 00:57:59,500
Man.
That is like, you tell me if

949
00:57:59,500 --> 00:58:02,700
you're Kansas in right now.
If you look at the actual

950
00:58:02,700 --> 00:58:06,600
standings, Kansas state would be
the last team in if there was

951
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:09,300
12.
Yeah, if it was 12, Kansas state

952
00:58:09,300 --> 00:58:14,300
would be the last team in.
Can you imagine like this game,

953
00:58:14,300 --> 00:58:17,300
like?
Well listen, if Kansas State

954
00:58:17,300 --> 00:58:19,900
Beach, Kansas, you know, they're
probably holding on to that

955
00:58:19,900 --> 00:58:23,100
slot, they might get in where
they lose.

956
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:26,700
We not only ruined your chances
to get in at large.

957
00:58:26,700 --> 00:58:30,000
Now you have to win.
Oh, now you don't even make the

958
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:33,400
big 12 championship game for
your chance because if Texas

959
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:35,500
wins, they get in.
Yep.

960
00:58:36,100 --> 00:58:38,100
So yeah, these games don't
matter though.

961
00:58:38,100 --> 00:58:40,600
They don't matter.
It's watering down college

962
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:43,900
football, Brian.
It's not, it's not in this and

963
00:58:43,900 --> 00:58:47,100
it's not even more.
Once we get to those division

964
00:58:47,100 --> 00:58:50,700
list conferences that everyone's
moving to holy God is going to

965
00:58:50,707 --> 00:58:53,300
be even crazier.
Yeah, it's going to be even

966
00:58:53,300 --> 00:58:55,600
crazier.
And we talked about this earlier

967
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:59,600
before we got on, you know,
people say in the games on

968
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:01,400
matter late.
Yeah, they still matter, just,

969
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:06,100
they matter in a different way.
So they matter in terms of

970
00:59:06,100 --> 00:59:09,000
seating, they matter in terms of
cut off, they matter in terms of

971
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,400
who's playing for the conference
Championship, that will

972
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:16,600
ultimately decide who gets those
top six bits true and that it's

973
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:19,400
just a different way of looking
at it.

974
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:21,100
It's not that the games don't
matter.

975
00:59:21,100 --> 00:59:23,400
It's that the games matter.
In a different way.

976
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:29,000
Wouldn't you say this though?
When you say it elevates those

977
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:32,500
games because elevates them?
Because more batter now, more

978
00:59:32,500 --> 00:59:34,700
matter.
Now at the end well that is,

979
00:59:34,900 --> 00:59:39,500
it's not just a who's going to
be the for its who's going to be

980
00:59:39,500 --> 00:59:41,800
the Ford who's going to be the
six, who's going to be the 6 and

981
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:44,700
the 7 depending on, who wins a
conference Championship?

982
00:59:44,700 --> 00:59:49,000
Who's going to be the 12 who has
a chance to play to get in?

983
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:51,300
Yeah.
Think about it.

984
00:59:51,300 --> 00:59:55,300
You know go back to what 2011?
When would Tekken UVA.

985
00:59:56,500 --> 01:00:01,200
When the winner went to the ACC
Championship.

986
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:04,400
Yeah.
How, how big would that game

987
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:06,900
have been?
It's like in today's or the

988
01:00:06,900 --> 01:00:10,400
future circumstances where it's
like not only does the winner.

989
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:13,600
Go to the championship if they
win that game there in the

990
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:15,000
playoff.
Yeah.

991
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:19,000
You're talking about taking it
from intense rivalry to just

992
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:22,500
gone up, just keep going up.
We're gonna sleaze in the March

993
01:00:22,500 --> 01:00:24,900
Madness and and Conference
Championship.

994
01:00:24,900 --> 01:00:27,600
Holy God.
Or important think about

995
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:30,700
Virginia Tech last year.
We know now, the Virginia Tech

996
01:00:30,700 --> 01:00:32,500
would not have been in the big
dance.

997
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:37,700
If they didn't win out.
I mean, I know that they didn't

998
01:00:37,700 --> 01:00:41,200
turn that into a whole lot, but
they wouldn't have been there to

999
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:43,300
begin with worst matchup
possible though.

1000
01:00:43,700 --> 01:00:46,100
It was that they gave us the
shit matchup.

1001
01:00:46,100 --> 01:00:49,500
But, you know, we talked about
even people who, you know, are

1002
01:00:49,500 --> 01:00:52,100
in their time from the
conference Championship games

1003
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:55,600
and I looked at Notre Dame, USC
Notre Dame.

1004
01:00:56,100 --> 01:01:00,100
After that bad stretch, they
figured themselves out.

1005
01:01:00,100 --> 01:01:04,500
They've been beating good teams.
If they be in this, again, I'm

1006
01:01:04,500 --> 01:01:06,300
looking for and I know this is
hard.

1007
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:08,900
Hypothetical shit.
But I love this shit.

1008
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:10,500
This is why I love college
football.

1009
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:16,400
Yeah, you imagine if you SC
bumps or Notre Dame bumps USC,

1010
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:20,200
this weekend and they go nine
and three and they beat Clemson

1011
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:24,100
and they beat USC and they're
only, they have to bad losses.

1012
01:01:24,100 --> 01:01:27,400
The only other losses to House
State and it was a war early in

1013
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:30,500
the season.
They're fighting for a poly a

1014
01:01:30,500 --> 01:01:33,800
10th or 12th seed.
Yeah, they're fighting for it.

1015
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:38,000
And then USC now says, well,
we've every good intentions

1016
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:40,100
we've had is gone because we
lost that game.

1017
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:42,400
The only way we're getting in is
to win an ash is to win a

1018
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:45,300
conference.
We have to win next week now,

1019
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:48,700
and it raises the stakes, even
more and more, and more.

1020
01:01:49,100 --> 01:01:52,500
So when you look at this thing
and you kind of start going

1021
01:01:52,500 --> 01:01:55,300
through it because right now,
this is this is who would be,

1022
01:01:55,300 --> 01:01:58,000
and I'm going by ranks.
This is who would be the

1023
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:01,100
conference Champion.
Georgia, Ohio State, TCU,

1024
01:02:01,100 --> 01:02:04,500
Southern Cal, Clemson.
And then I'm going to go to link

1025
01:02:04,500 --> 01:02:07,700
this to Lane is the
highest-ranking AAC teams after

1026
01:02:07,700 --> 01:02:12,700
those six.
It's Michigan LSU Alabama,

1027
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:17,800
Oregon Tennessee.
And Penn State.

1028
01:02:18,700 --> 01:02:20,800
So Kansas state is one position
out.

1029
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:24,600
So, let's take it.
Just one step further.

1030
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:27,800
Before we jump onto our big
screeners, because we've got a

1031
01:02:27,808 --> 01:02:32,700
bunch this week.
Alabama right now in a 12 team

1032
01:02:32,700 --> 01:02:35,100
playoff would be poised to get
in right?

1033
01:02:35,100 --> 01:02:36,100
Yeah.
For sure it would be.

1034
01:02:37,100 --> 01:02:41,400
Do you not think on the plains
Auburn would pull everything out

1035
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:45,400
of their ass to beat them to
keep them out?

1036
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:53,000
yeah, I mean they would go from
a If everyone below them one,

1037
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:56,200
they've there out there out
there out there.

1038
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:58,900
Actually if Kansas State
ultimately plays for the Big 12

1039
01:02:58,900 --> 01:03:02,800
and wins it, then they're out
and then you're looking at TCU

1040
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:04,900
being in because TCU would have
one loss.

1041
01:03:04,900 --> 01:03:08,300
Exactly.
But you sit there and again, how

1042
01:03:08,300 --> 01:03:10,300
much does it raise a game like
the Iron Bowl?

1043
01:03:10,300 --> 01:03:12,100
How much does it raise the big
game?

1044
01:03:12,300 --> 01:03:15,400
How much does it raise this
organ Oregon State this weekend

1045
01:03:15,500 --> 01:03:18,200
like organs in that nine slot?
If they win this weekend, they

1046
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:19,700
probably move up a little bit
there.

1047
01:03:19,700 --> 01:03:24,200
Probably secured. 12 Oregon
State beats them, pay win the

1048
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:28,100
Pac-12 next week against USC.
It is elevating these rivalry

1049
01:03:28,100 --> 01:03:32,300
games in week, 13 or shooting
week 12.

1050
01:03:32,700 --> 01:03:36,100
It is assuming week 13, it is
elevating these rivalry games

1051
01:03:36,700 --> 01:03:41,500
two levels.
You've never seen Because teams

1052
01:03:41,500 --> 01:03:46,800
know we win, we're probably in
we lose, we're either right

1053
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:48,900
there or we've got to win next
week.

1054
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:52,100
The rivalry games, get some
steaks back to them again

1055
01:03:52,100 --> 01:03:56,700
because as long as long as
you're in the hunt to play for

1056
01:03:56,700 --> 01:03:59,400
your conference Championship,
it's true.

1057
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,400
If you're in the well, if you're
in the hunt for your conference

1058
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:04,900
Championship, that's like that's
almost like the back door,

1059
01:04:04,900 --> 01:04:06,900
right?
Hey, we can still win their

1060
01:04:06,900 --> 01:04:09,800
conference Championship, like,
Alabama this year tennis.

1061
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:13,700
See who cannot make their
conference Championship, go lose

1062
01:04:13,700 --> 01:04:16,700
to your in-state rival.
I don't think you're going to

1063
01:04:16,707 --> 01:04:18,300
make it in.
You're not getting that at large

1064
01:04:18,300 --> 01:04:21,800
either.
Boom, you're gone and I mean

1065
01:04:22,100 --> 01:04:25,900
it's crazy to think about that.
So for everybody who thinks the

1066
01:04:25,900 --> 01:04:29,600
playoff is going to lessen these
games for everyone who thinks

1067
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:31,400
these games won't matter as
much.

1068
01:04:31,500 --> 01:04:35,100
Take a view this year and say,
if this team beats that team,

1069
01:04:35,100 --> 01:04:39,300
that teams out And this year,
the state's don't matter.

1070
01:04:39,500 --> 01:04:42,200
Thinking the future think of
what a coach would be saying

1071
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:43,700
things.
What Vanderbilt's coach would be

1072
01:04:43,700 --> 01:04:46,400
saying to 10 about Tennessee?
Yep.

1073
01:04:46,500 --> 01:04:48,900
They're going to get in without
their best player and they have

1074
01:04:48,900 --> 01:04:51,100
to let them in.
Just based on Merit.

1075
01:04:51,900 --> 01:04:54,100
Y'all beat them on the field on
Saturday.

1076
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:57,900
Bye-bye.
Bye-bye.

1077
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:04,600
Hi Brian.
Let's go big screeners this week

1078
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:09,100
because like I said at the
beginning, Being good Lord.

1079
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:16,900
All freaking Mighty we got some
good ones, man.

1080
01:05:17,100 --> 01:05:19,800
We got some good ones, we
definitely got some big.

1081
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:21,400
We got some good ones that
matter.

1082
01:05:22,900 --> 01:05:29,100
Well and the top, when I put on
the list, Yeah, I mean, this is

1083
01:05:29,100 --> 01:05:33,600
either going to be who's five,
or who's for the winner?

1084
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:36,000
The winner.
The loser is going to be 5 or 4.

1085
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:38,700
Yep.
Probably when all is said and

1086
01:05:38,700 --> 01:05:44,200
done.
So Michigan, Ohio State, high

1087
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:51,800
noon, Saturday, number two,
verses number three, which also

1088
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:56,500
makes we're going to have to get
up and get to moving in.

1089
01:05:57,400 --> 01:05:59,900
Lockdown.
It's like no no extra sleep on

1090
01:05:59,900 --> 01:06:04,100
Friday or Saturday into Friday
into Saturday that game.

1091
01:06:04,100 --> 01:06:06,700
Braun is a seven and a half
Point.

1092
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:10,400
Ohio state is the favorite.
What are you thinking on this

1093
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:16,400
one?
I don't like the I don't like

1094
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:18,800
the spread but I do like Ohio
State to win it.

1095
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:25,000
All right, night Brian's Brian.
I'm not taking the if it was

1096
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:26,700
money line.
I take Ohio.

1097
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:28,600
Say but I'm going to take
Michigan with the spread.

1098
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:31,900
Yeah, the whole thing is all
about Blake quorum to me on that

1099
01:06:31,900 --> 01:06:34,800
one.
Because I think, if corn plays,

1100
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:36,900
I think Michigan can win that
game outright.

1101
01:06:39,100 --> 01:06:43,100
I think Ohio state has seen a
defense like this, once all you

1102
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:48,200
here, one time all year they
seem to defense like this and

1103
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:50,200
that was at the beginning of the
season, right?

1104
01:06:50,300 --> 01:06:54,800
That's when they played Notre
Dame Marcus Freeman and they

1105
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:56,800
scored 21 on them in the
horseshoe.

1106
01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:03,100
I'll be very honest with you.
I think I think machines a lot

1107
01:07:03,100 --> 01:07:05,600
more Dynamic with what weather
corms.

1108
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:09,300
They're not, I think if corn
plays I think Michigan wins.

1109
01:07:09,900 --> 01:07:11,900
I think if he doesn't, I think
it is a war.

1110
01:07:11,900 --> 01:07:16,000
It's like a 27:26 battle.
I take Michigan in the point

1111
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:19,600
because again, Ohio State hasn't
seen this good of a defense, I

1112
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:22,400
think they're gonna they're
gonna run into some think of the

1113
01:07:22,408 --> 01:07:25,400
Northwestern game because Pat
Fitzgerald just knows how to

1114
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:27,600
prep a defense.
It's going to be similar to

1115
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:28,900
that.
That and it's going to be close.

1116
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:32,700
All right, the next one.
I'll talk about Brian.

1117
01:07:32,700 --> 01:07:36,100
Let's go to the number four team
in the country and some people

1118
01:07:36,100 --> 01:07:39,500
will be, might be asking, why
are you talking about the TCU,

1119
01:07:39,500 --> 01:07:42,500
Iowa State game, Iowa, State's
four and seven, they're not

1120
01:07:42,500 --> 01:07:45,800
good.
You know, it's a Struggle Bus,

1121
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:52,200
Brian.
The last time a top top five

1122
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:56,200
team and they were number two at
the time, came in the Ames Iowa,

1123
01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:58,800
about 11 years ago, you remember
that game?

1124
01:07:59,700 --> 01:08:05,100
I do Oklahoma State and just go
the way they wanted to Oklahoma

1125
01:08:05,100 --> 01:08:06,800
State wins.
They are in the national

1126
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:09,900
championship game in Oklahoma
State laws.

1127
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:14,200
That wasn't, that was the
premack Campbell era out in Iowa

1128
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:17,500
State to.
So, a lesser to me a lesser

1129
01:08:17,500 --> 01:08:22,500
coach team, tcu's going in there
after what they did at Baylor.

1130
01:08:22,500 --> 01:08:27,200
And again for those who did not
see it, go to YouTube and find

1131
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:32,399
that a the stones of Sunny,
dikes to run a play on second

1132
01:08:32,399 --> 01:08:36,500
and seven and like a play play
not a, or just going to run it

1133
01:08:36,500 --> 01:08:39,399
up the gut and then we're going
to get behind.

1134
01:08:39,399 --> 01:08:41,399
We're going to spike the ball
and bring her kick her out.

1135
01:08:41,399 --> 01:08:43,800
No, they ran like some sort of
flat.

1136
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:49,600
Like a running back Flats play,
and he tackled short of lime to

1137
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:55,899
game, and they, I was just like
in awe, because that was going

1138
01:08:55,899 --> 01:08:57,200
on the same time, the Hokies
game.

1139
01:08:57,200 --> 01:09:00,200
It ended that was going on like
five minutes after it happened.

1140
01:09:01,100 --> 01:09:02,899
All right.
Now for this one Brian.

1141
01:09:03,500 --> 01:09:06,899
Now luckily this one it's not a
names.

1142
01:09:06,899 --> 01:09:10,899
It's at Fort Worth TCU is a
10-point.

1143
01:09:10,899 --> 01:09:14,000
Favorite the over unders, 47 and
a half.

1144
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:17,800
Do Sonny Dykes in the TCU
Horned.

1145
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:21,000
Frog function ticket, undefeated
regular season.

1146
01:09:22,700 --> 01:09:28,300
I think they get it done.
It's going to be close, though.

1147
01:09:28,399 --> 01:09:29,899
It's going to be.
I think it's going to be a

1148
01:09:29,899 --> 01:09:36,399
little bit of a slog, tcu's a
good team, but they obviously

1149
01:09:36,399 --> 01:09:40,800
have some flaws.
We'll see if I was steak and

1150
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:43,399
take advantage of those and kind
of keep it a little bit closer

1151
01:09:43,399 --> 01:09:48,500
than it should, all right?
Just so, you know, Just so, you

1152
01:09:48,500 --> 01:09:52,600
know, here are Iowa State's.
They've got seven losses here

1153
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:55,600
that are lost totals.
They lost a bailar by seven.

1154
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:58,200
They lost to Kansas by three.
They lost to Kansas state by

1155
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:00,500
one.
They lost a Texas spot three

1156
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:04,400
they lost Oklahoma by 14, they
lost Oklahoma State by 6 and

1157
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:09,000
Texas Tech by for that team
don't get blown out.

1158
01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:17,700
No TCU wins like 26. 20:27
pointy.

1159
01:10:18,100 --> 01:10:19,700
I'll take Iowa State's in the
points.

1160
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:23,200
I've take 10 points because I
think what you said, I think a

1161
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:26,700
will make out a slog.
I do think, just because of what

1162
01:10:26,700 --> 01:10:30,800
happened last week, I think the
focus for TCU lot easier to

1163
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:35,100
focus on right after you have a
name like that, like listen, we

1164
01:10:35,100 --> 01:10:38,400
can lose it any point in time,
all right?

1165
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:43,500
This is one of those Prime, we
talk about the cfp if this was a

1166
01:10:43,500 --> 01:10:46,200
year from now.
Two years from now.

1167
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:47,800
I think it's going to be a year
because I think they're going to

1168
01:10:47,808 --> 01:10:49,400
push this thing through next
year.

1169
01:10:50,100 --> 01:10:54,100
Clemson, South Carolina,
Clemson, South Carolina, the

1170
01:10:54,100 --> 01:11:01,100
battle of the Palmetto State,
and Clemson.

1171
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:05,700
Say what you want to say are,
are this close to getting in?

1172
01:11:05,700 --> 01:11:08,000
Probably this close to being an
at-large, even if they lost to

1173
01:11:08,008 --> 01:11:11,500
Carolina, as long as they won
this game, this would be a game

1174
01:11:11,500 --> 01:11:13,800
like 2 years from.
Now that would be massively

1175
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:16,700
interesting if they did.
Teams exactly where they were

1176
01:11:17,300 --> 01:11:19,800
because South Carolina could
absolutely say.

1177
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:21,400
Well no, you have to win the
ACC.

1178
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:24,900
You're not getting that large,
you have to win the conference.

1179
01:11:25,700 --> 01:11:29,900
And what's interesting is, this
is at Clemson and is a high noon

1180
01:11:29,900 --> 01:11:33,000
also on Saturday.
So Michigan, Ohio State will be

1181
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:39,100
there.
I'll have I'll have the big one

1182
01:11:39,100 --> 01:11:41,000
here.
The other one, just above it

1183
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:44,000
here.
What will mother 12:00 or some?

1184
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:47,000
Sure here.
But what are you feeling on this

1185
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:50,500
one?
Clemson, 14 and a half Point

1186
01:11:50,500 --> 01:11:56,000
favorite 52.
Z over under South Carolina

1187
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:59,400
coming off.
A huge win over Tennessee, where

1188
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:04,700
unfortunately Hendon hooker,
pores ACL, which is sad as shit.

1189
01:12:04,900 --> 01:12:08,500
Yeah, for us as hokey fans, just
loving that guy because I mean

1190
01:12:08,500 --> 01:12:12,600
he still I'd say the favorite of
the second favorite for the

1191
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:17,300
Heisman winner, losing that game
because Was he I mean he was

1192
01:12:17,300 --> 01:12:23,400
Still Ballin.
So I'm kind of back again, where

1193
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:33,400
I was with with Michigan State,
Robbie Cox Mac?

1194
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:36,500
Yeah, I'm I don't think they're
going to lose that, right?

1195
01:12:36,500 --> 01:12:40,500
I do think that give me South
Carolina the points I think

1196
01:12:40,500 --> 01:12:43,700
Clemson wins the game but it's a
dog fight.

1197
01:12:44,500 --> 01:12:46,700
It is a dogfight, change.
Got them playing good Got

1198
01:12:46,700 --> 01:12:47,900
Confidence with them.
Right now.

1199
01:12:47,900 --> 01:12:50,400
I'm on with you on that.
I think you take South Carolina

1200
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:54,100
and the points, just because of
Clemson's, game Flow all year.

1201
01:12:54,100 --> 01:12:56,700
It's they're not going to blow
anybody out.

1202
01:12:56,700 --> 01:12:58,100
No.
It's if they're going to if

1203
01:12:58,100 --> 01:13:01,100
they're gonna beat them over 14
points, it's going to be a slow

1204
01:13:01,100 --> 01:13:03,500
grind in South Carolina going to
make a few mistakes late.

1205
01:13:03,500 --> 01:13:08,600
I think Shane will find his
dad's enter and be like, if it's

1206
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:11,200
a seven-point game way, he's
going to play tight to the vest

1207
01:13:11,500 --> 01:13:15,400
and hope they do something
because of You know, the

1208
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:16,600
quarterback there in the
mistakes.

1209
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:22,900
He can make.
All righty, Saturday night, we

1210
01:13:22,900 --> 01:13:26,800
go to the believe, we are in the
Coliseum for this.

1211
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:30,600
No, yep.
We are in the Coliseum. 7:30,

1212
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:38,000
7:30, so 12:00 covered.
And 7:30 is covered.

1213
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:41,400
So there's no telling what's in
between at 3:30.

1214
01:13:42,100 --> 01:13:44,500
There's gonna be probably a
plethora games with this one.

1215
01:13:44,900 --> 01:13:50,100
It's Notre Dame, USC, it is the
wide-open offense of Lincoln

1216
01:13:50,100 --> 01:13:53,700
Riley and USC versus that
staunch defense in running

1217
01:13:53,700 --> 01:14:02,600
attack of you of Notre, Dame 64
over under USC is a five-point

1218
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:05,800
favorite.
I'm not messing.

1219
01:14:05,900 --> 01:14:11,700
With a spread here of five, I
think this thing goes over 64.

1220
01:14:11,900 --> 01:14:15,100
USC cannot defend.
Anybody, they can score with

1221
01:14:15,100 --> 01:14:18,300
making score on anybody, but
they cannot defend anybody.

1222
01:14:20,700 --> 01:14:22,800
And I just don't know what's
going to happen.

1223
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:24,500
This is good.
This will probably be the game

1224
01:14:24,500 --> 01:14:28,800
where I'm probably going to be
heavy on drinks and I'm staying

1225
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:30,600
up late to watch.
There you go.

1226
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:32,900
Because I think it's going to be
entertaining as shit.

1227
01:14:33,700 --> 01:14:35,500
Yeah, I'm definitely taking the
over here.

1228
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:40,800
And I think USC probably wins it
outright but I think it's going

1229
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:44,500
to be a shootout, it's going to
be they're going to be slinging

1230
01:14:44,500 --> 01:14:48,100
it on the u.s. seaside and I
think that you're going to see a

1231
01:14:48,100 --> 01:14:52,500
lot of a lot of Smash Mouth run.
Some big some big-time runs from

1232
01:14:52,500 --> 01:14:54,300
Notre.
Dame to kind of keep Pace there.

1233
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:58,100
You're going to see Notre Dame.
Keep Pace with big-time runs.

1234
01:14:58,300 --> 01:15:02,100
I'm wondering how much the
Virginia product.

1235
01:15:02,100 --> 01:15:05,700
Chris Tyree, how much run he
gets?

1236
01:15:05,900 --> 01:15:12,500
It's on it, you know he has not
gotten as much this year.

1237
01:15:12,500 --> 01:15:14,800
He's kind of been there.
She fell back by the way I'm

1238
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:16,900
gonna I'm gonna throw a name out
to you if you remember this guy.

1239
01:15:17,900 --> 01:15:22,500
Remember Audrey crostini.
Yeah he is one of their big one.

1240
01:15:22,500 --> 01:15:24,600
He is there touchdown score for
Notre Dame.

1241
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:32,000
So potentially former hokey lean
is out at you is out of Notre

1242
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:37,200
Dame right now.
So yeah and again If you think

1243
01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:39,900
12, and this is kind of what
this segment has been built

1244
01:15:39,900 --> 01:15:44,100
around if Notre Dame.
Seriously, if this is a year or

1245
01:15:44,100 --> 01:15:47,200
two, from now on, it's on there.
If Notre Dame's seriously,

1246
01:15:47,500 --> 01:15:52,300
they're ranked 15th right now,
if they be top 10, USC team in

1247
01:15:52,300 --> 01:15:58,600
the Coliseum at, and they go 9
and 3, Look at that.

1248
01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:00,100
Look at.
Look at his, in front of them,

1249
01:16:00,900 --> 01:16:05,200
could they leave multiple people
with that win and get there and

1250
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:09,500
be like the 12th or 11c?
I think they still need some

1251
01:16:09,500 --> 01:16:11,100
help but I think they could do
it.

1252
01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:14,900
Yeah.
I think you probably need some

1253
01:16:14,900 --> 01:16:17,400
help from from K-State in
particular.

1254
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:19,100
Yeah.
Unique a state to lose to

1255
01:16:19,100 --> 01:16:20,600
Kansas.
Yep.

1256
01:16:21,900 --> 01:16:29,200
But by the way, the best thing
about the whole new Set up per

1257
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:32,000
se is Notre.
Dame will never get a bye.

1258
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:35,900
Ever.
As long as they stay

1259
01:16:35,900 --> 01:16:37,700
independent, they will always be
playing.

1260
01:16:37,900 --> 01:16:40,900
Although, it would be
interesting to see some Southern

1261
01:16:40,900 --> 01:16:47,700
or warm weather team.
Ah, leprechaun, Probably what

1262
01:16:47,700 --> 01:16:49,900
were you drinking tonight down
in South Boston because I know

1263
01:16:49,900 --> 01:16:54,600
that's where you are.
Robbie's in home getting

1264
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:57,600
hammered Hobbies at home getting
hammered mom.

1265
01:16:57,900 --> 01:17:01,100
There we go.
But for real though that they

1266
01:17:01,100 --> 01:17:05,500
will but it would be lovely to
see some really warm weather

1267
01:17:05,500 --> 01:17:09,000
teams have to go to South Bend
on a December afternoon to play

1268
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:11,700
a playoff.
All right.

1269
01:17:11,700 --> 01:17:14,000
Last one brown.
We talked about this one earlier

1270
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:15,400
and I really focused on this
one.

1271
01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:19,200
We're talking But the cfp and
that's at Tulane Cincinnati.

1272
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:21,900
Amen.
It is high noon, it is on

1273
01:17:21,900 --> 01:17:25,000
Friday, get whatever you need to
get done early.

1274
01:17:26,100 --> 01:17:30,200
If you're being sent out for
Black Friday, shopping for your

1275
01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:34,700
wife, Just tell her 11:30, I'm
turning around, I don't care.

1276
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:36,600
I'm coming home to watch this
game.

1277
01:17:37,300 --> 01:17:40,300
And basically, this is a Pick'em
since he's a one-point favorite.

1278
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:42,700
It's a forty six and a half Over
Yonder.

1279
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:46,600
I know a couple weeks ago you
like to Lane when they did help

1280
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:53,300
cover you with Tulsa.
What you say or you have UCF,

1281
01:17:53,300 --> 01:17:59,100
excuse me, I'm going, I'm taking
two lane here, you staying with

1282
01:17:59,100 --> 01:18:01,800
it, they use their year.
I'm sticking with Tulane.

1283
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:04,600
Yeah, I think I think it might
be their year to do some.

1284
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:08,500
Do a little punching up, all
right?

1285
01:18:08,500 --> 01:18:12,800
Because I think if Tulane does
when two languages the

1286
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:18,600
conference, they're going to get
the the new year six bowl, but

1287
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:22,500
I'm going to go opposite of you.
I think Cincinnati and Circle, I

1288
01:18:22,500 --> 01:18:27,100
think they upset them or they
essentially I consider an upset

1289
01:18:27,100 --> 01:18:32,700
when 24 beats 19.
I think that happens, and I

1290
01:18:32,708 --> 01:18:37,400
think they play UCF pin
Cincinnati's back in a new year,

1291
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:42,500
six, playoff game again again.
All right, Ron has anything

1292
01:18:42,500 --> 01:18:45,400
broken.
The last hour and 20 minutes

1293
01:18:46,500 --> 01:18:50,000
that I see, buddy.
Well, then it's, you see the

1294
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:53,100
home behind me as well.
Watching the Celtics score like

1295
01:18:53,100 --> 01:18:55,400
74 and a half is that they play
defense.

1296
01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:59,300
Annie me anymore.
Not really not really

1297
01:19:00,300 --> 01:19:03,000
selectively select selectively.
Awesome.

1298
01:19:03,300 --> 01:19:05,600
Well, what the hell do I say?
Let me put this up real quick.

1299
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:10,600
He said, Wilkesboro tonight?
First of all, it's must be a

1300
01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:14,900
clear night in Wilkesboro.
You can actually you actually

1301
01:19:14,900 --> 01:19:17,800
hit the comments, the comments.
All right.

1302
01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:22,000
Well, we've got nothing else
Brion that does wrap wrap up

1303
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:26,300
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1304
01:19:26,300 --> 01:19:28,900
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1305
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:32,000
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1306
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1311
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1312
01:19:51,800 --> 01:20:01,100
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1316
01:20:12,500 --> 01:20:14,700
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1317
01:20:14,700 --> 01:20:16,700
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1318
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:17,200
Geez.