Hokies Cup Runneth Over

0:44 Welcome back to these boundary Corner podcast. I'm Curtis Wilson. I'm Brian The Chalice of the Commonwealth is coming back to Blacksburg. She is coming home. Yes. Yes, sir. Cheers, Cheers. Cheers. I didn't see this game coming from this team, but I'm so glad that it happened. Damn, glad it happened tonight, folks. You're not going to get a lot of analysts. You're going to get two, guys shooting from the hip drinking beer, feeling some relief that The streak that streak man that godforsaken long streak of one. Will snap today, snapping the streak of one will give. It will give you a little taste and then we gonna take it back. The only gonna take it back.

1:44 One thing, what? One year, 20 of 20 to the last time Those boys wanting Lane Stadium. You are a freshman in high school. I was a fucking sophomore in high school, that long ago. That's called dominance ladies and Gentlemen, even in our down years, which I would consider the last three on the whole would be considered down years on top of, probably the last three of the Beamer era. Yep, still being that ass. He'll be This still beating that ass.

2:24 I still take a long time to shed and even still tonight not playing the best. This could have been ugly. This could have been 53. It wasn't as close as the score indicated. Let's be. I mean, this could have been a forty five to Fifteen game. We could have, you know, really poured it on if we had to finish some drives and finish drives or not fucked up drive. Like we're actually score a touchdown in the second half, which we haven't done since. October. Yeah, six points after a massive run run, a fucking trick play. We're still going to, we're still going to harp on things that need to be changed. We're very happy that the cups back on. We're very happy, we beat that ass. We're very blowout, is not a perfect game. We're still going to point out.

3:14 What was not perfect about it. Exactly. But it was, it was awesome. The guys played me and Brian text about him or very early in this game. If this was the team that had fucking shown up, Wake Forest to now we have to fucking losses. If to that's it that's his game. Almost made me more Angry than it did have. I'm completely ecstatic that we got the cup back that we beat UVA that the entire Twitter time. line right now is just hokey fans bringing receipts its glorious but at the same time like what could have been if we did just played to this level For the majority of the season because I mean UVA is a team that you know went out and took down UNC.

4:06 Yeah they had a couple other quality wins. They played even early in the season. When they were taking losses, they were close losses, they were late losses, you know, they hung with a Clemson team for a little while before they put them away, but we showed up tonight. So I mean, this was a quality. I would consider this a Polity Victory against a good team, not a great team by any stretch of the imagination, but a good UVA team so UVA. I'll take that, but but that's a good team for them. Yeah. Last was their best team in 15, 20, 30 years.

4:47 They were static about it. The difference is, we won five games, they've won five games. They're still happy. They're happy. We're trying to fire our coach. We are not the same, we're not the same. We are not the same. That is the biggest thing that can be said that they are happy with mediocrity. Mediocrity makes us angry because we have been to Pinnacles, we had been to the highest levels and we want to get back there again and I obviously You sit around. And what probably the most frustrating thing of the Justin Fuente era. Is the times where?

5:35 The levels of play are to a point where you look and say that is a top, 10 team. Yeah, then there are times hell, did that team win a game in last week? The first, the second part of the third quarter. Was that way tonight essentially, the whole game was that one that was take the first of the last game of the season where the two best games played beginning to end both sides of the ball. Bar none. It's true man. And I'll say something else. We talked about it on the podcast that we recorded Thursday night. What were some of the the big things we thought if we can do this, well, we're going to have a good game converting on third down.

6:26 Papa, getting off the field on third down. We did both damn well tonight. Yes, we did. Do both damn well tonight, in to the tune of Third Downs, date, third, and fourth Downs. They were 7 of 16. We were 9 of 16. We were 709 in the first half. They were ninth. We're now at 16 and with them, I want to say, three of those third down. Conversions came on their first touchdown drive, right? I believe. So. Yeah, these two of them at least two and then the fourth down conversion was a fake punt. Yep. So really take that out of the equation and you're talking about, Them after the first drive essentially going like 20%. So they shit the bed where we were 9 of 16, consistent all games, you know, Braxton plays the whole game, no issue with that juice Herbert goes like a madman tonight juice. Herbert just went potentially from a third day guy because of his kick return ability because of his past catching ability he might have just vaulted himself into day two. He's like a late third early fourth right now. Well, I was telling you just a few minutes ago, his running style, he is what Frank Gore was at Miami. He's patient in the hole but he's got that fourth gear that they can just get away.

7:50 That's 76-yard touchdown run was beautiful. Just fucking beautiful. He found the whole got got through the alley and then outran everybody. Hmm. You must be real here. I mean there's fast guys on that field for that UVA defense and he ran he outran all of them with the ball. So Things like that are the things that are going to get him a bigger payday than we thought and things like that are the reason, you know, when you look at him being the second in the country for rushes over 20 yards this year, and that's what missing pretty much two games. Yeah.

8:36 I mean missing games being and then kind of the one game playing nicht coming back. Probably of game too early. You know he is is something again, it kind of makes you you kind of sad because a who runs the offense and be it took us this long to get a running back like that. and that that was that something that you know it's while but you kind of take a look at him, run third in the country at 7.6 one yards per carry not counting tonight, he went for 162 night, he did 8.1 If he doesn't finish first, he's going to probably finish.

9:34 Second in yards per carry. He shattered, the Virginia Tech record. In 11 games. Yeah, I mean shattered and he miss games against competition. He probably could have carved against, you know. Again, our opinion has been for since Liberty. This is it for this coaching staff but good Lord. If the next coaching staff that comes in and it could convince him to stay, that would be nice. I'll be real real nice but I I feel like you if he ends up getting the third or fourth round grade, he's got to go based on looking, you know, we looks at his potential Landing spots.

10:17 He's gonna hire an agent and figure that out so yeah, and I don't blame him. I mean, running backs have such a short shelf life in the NFL. Anyway, there's no reason for you. Not to go get paid when he can exactly. And again, the kick returns to being able to catch the ball. He does enough other good things and you can see is a good football. Player you see him speak. He very, you know, very well, thought-out. Put together young, man. So you just know. He's just going to go and it stink though. Hopefully, we find another Kan transfer. That I mean, you know, we keep grabbing them in and they do at least decent do at least, decent, they end up doing more for us than they did for Kansas.

11:08 That's that's at least something right? That is a big something. And it's wild tonight. Definitely his also big attempt 20 attempts tonight. Kind of shocking there. Trey Turner played tonight. I'm very glad Trey got on the field, the field trades, a couple big catches in a touchdown run. Yes, he did Jets. Why can't we execute every play? Like we do jet sweeps tight end in the rounds, inside, won't sleep inside. The tin is like a fucking automatic TouchDown for us anywhere.

11:49 Us on the fields, automatic five-yard loss god. Um several times tonight probably upset you Blackshear really didn't get much one was the screen that as soon as I saw the play in the first quarter and I'm like that's a screen and like lined up Blackshear behind two of the better blocking wide receivers I think they're probably going to throw the ball to him and let him try to get up. Feel what do you think Curtis when That was the late 1950s. The one early jet motion to the screen where they're dropping back and he jet motions and they're dropping back in like one guy goes with Braxton the other guys, just go follow the Jet Sweep and I'm sitting here soon as I'm seeing the play, as soon as it's fake just a couple things we didn't like that's the screen Braxton smart enough just as soon as he realizes blown up chunks it in the ground. Yep, his hands up.

12:48 So that's also I'm on that that he did that but up to you the the one of the plays that got me tonight, was Tavian Robinson's big break. It was a simple. What? 10-yard out route. The I put it on the money and whoever that safety was fought tail, was going to go out the way. Take caught it probably the way his body showed and tape, put that foot in the ground and just turned. He changes Direction with speed better than anyone I've seen. Seen in a while, anybody that can heal, he was going out of bounds, just kind of put his hand. Like, I'm just gonna help him go out of bounds. He turned it into the greatest top-end speed, but damn, can he change direction without losing anything?

13:32 It's why I was so scary as a punt returner. Yeah. Because that's what that essentially is. If you get that great speed, but in your, you're going 40 miles an hour, and you see where that your Ali's getting filled. Well, let me put my foot and cut, that's why he was so good that's why he cited us you know hey Brian, what did I text you? After the James Mitchell fumble What did you text you to the change? Which is why we got to tighten back there. Aren't you our best but we just have not been able to figure out how not to exactly.

14:20 We've had four different players muffled punt this year, all of them, one was one of the best in the country last year and Tavian Robinson black. She was good at Rutgers returning, punts what we're putting in their heads to completely screw them up. I mean, it's pretty wild. I'm James Mitchell now. Luckily the defense redeemed itself, the defense played Bar None, it's best game tonight. Multiple picks. Making Armstrong uncomfortable, couple times. We were looked pissed early about the like think you saw a better game playing be called throughout the rest of the first half they made adjustments quick, which isn't something we've seen a lot this year.

15:13 It showing growth from Justin Hamilton here. I think a little bit that showing And you know, here's what the game plan is but I'm willing to come off this if it's not working and being comfortable doing that and not feeling like he's, you know, treading water out there. It's very true man. It's very very true. Oh man, man. Oh, I'm just seeing things being tweeted out there. A lot of a lot of very funny things. One of the better one was the the cup one of the cups. A about the Zima, you Screamed aloud to me and it made me about to put my shit out.

15:54 Someone get the zoom out of me. So, yeah, it was, it was like a rollercoaster of emotion. That's what this season's been. That's kind of what this podcast has been. Yeah, it's we started because when we were, when we started this thing months upon months ago, it feels like three years ago, but it really not. It's only 8:00 Eight months ago right now downloading everything covid just seems like it's been three times as long as it's been in reality and it has been a roller coaster. It's been always started. We were, you know, the the week class but we were excited about certain guys you know. Robert wooden has definitely, you saw 51 out there ton tonight.

16:44 Dorian strong, man. If the win today is Not the coach next year, whoever's walking on has themselves a dog and a lockpick Wicked like Bloom. Worry about it. He plays hard. He hits he Chomps. Yeah, I mean for somebody with that little buzz to come on and take on that big of a roll, right out the gate and and do it at a high level. I mean, you know, I know we've had your main wall of banged up all year, but he's only played a little bit but I mean across the board. He's been our best corner. Strong has been our best corner all year on the whole. Yeah, you know, he had that early game when he got the start against Duke where, you know, a couple plays he got picked on, but he held his own pretty good. And he's only Gotten better as the years went along. Yeah, he is.

17:39 He's everything you want. It's like, why did he go so unnoticed? And, you know, but that's your dominant or up thing. You have to find them. It's at the level, like, ours to succeed. You've got to find them. Even if we do become a program, that can recruit top 20, consistently, top 15 consistently. Those are the guys that put you over the hump. Essentially, I'm not Brian retweeted something else. Commonwealth cup, what a strange dream. That was drunk dials in Charlottesville for the last year, from now, All I sleep with one eye open. Boom, man, just go. I guess Khalil was asked at the postgame, if he was done playing at Virginia, Tech, not 100%. I don't know.

18:23 I definitely like to play in a bowl. I've never played in a bowl game, okay? And people are often out left and right. I am going to assume what, regardless what happens it's probably going to Wednesday's, let go. I am assuming that it's going to be the choice and I think that's what you do. You go to the kids and say do you guys want to go play this bowl this day, it might mean you miss Christmas with your family's been a rough year, your choice, your choice 100%. Now if you're smart, If you're smart, if your whip. You say, and I don't know if this is power with that, something that he can do, we were going to do everything to bring your families up here for Christmas wherever they're calling from your mom and your dad. We're going to bring them.

19:16 We're going to get two hotel rooms, you spend time with your family, whether the between the 2728 per second. That whenever yep, or if you get it, you know, if you can find a bowl game essentially, Ten days from now. Take it. Take it. Go play it because several reasons a, I can't remember the name of the fucking movie with Danny DeVito, but I always loved what he said. It's money. You know why you need it? Because it's fucking money.

20:52 Be you have. All right, let's get back to the game. Oh yeah, the game here. What's pretty on offense in the second half. That was kind of slowing us down. All you're going to ask me what I saw. Yeah it was when we got deep when we got deep into the into the scoring positions we weren't attack and we freaking as your favorite term Braun. We got the fuck it up. I'm gonna pass whole. Yep. Yep, we did the freaking after the huge run. Did not reverse. I mentioned it earlier, but it was just like, why are you doing that? There's, they're struggling to stop the run. They're struggling to stop these out routes.

21:35 You know, they're struggling up. The seems like they have no answer for what we're doing on offense. Don't play into what they can do. Well, but weirdly gives them an easy. Look, a predictable look. I mean, did you? So the thing that was indicative when we ran, I think it was Jet Sweep at like the 40-yard line right after the the big chunk play to Mitchell isn't a asleep wasn't. I think so, Chang ahead and write. We came out with We'll take, right? We immediately shifted double tight left and like they loaded and showed Blitz and we just ran the Jet Sweep right into the list versus in that case. As soon as you saw that a normal, right mounted offensive coordinator, as soon as they saw that call coming and it was, you remember, you're doing it was shown before, right? It was shown with what they're coming, that way. Yeah, we're going to put, The double you immediately should be signaling in.

22:38 Hey, Option. if they if they, if they're coming, pull that sumbitch and go live because guess what, they're overloaded, you're going to have one guy to beat on the side and with Braxton, If he beats the one guy, it's 20 in again. That's what infuriates is because you saw this. Like, they're going to put cool as soon as I saw, we were running Jet Sweep. And then the had shown blocks like this ain't going to work. We had even snap the ball yells like this ain't going to work George where you shot? No shot shot. The only way we were going to lose yards. There is if the wide receiver taking the handoff made a hell of a play or UVA.

23:26 Just literally forgot how to tackle that's the only way. We're gaining yards there and you hate that shit because what you see on that play is okay, commit that you're still going to do it because they're gonna back out once you commit, right? Once you don't want you switch two tight ends if nothing else. Hey, we're still going to come because you essentially have to do everything. Perfect. And your guy has to make a move versus simply call it the other way. And just say Go Jet. Sweep to what may be little outside Zone. All right, like the jet, let it go outside but those are the things that really irritated by the way that's a this is completely off the Bad call subject.

24:10 You know who really won this game today? It was a Ron Johnson. Yeah, Ryan Johnson won the kick, the shit out of the ball today for 44 to 47. Yarders 247 yards today. The other way to got himself paid as well. Now he's a kicker, dude. At this point it's hard to tell but he's had a good year kicking. Let me ask you this, he's a kicker. Would you come back and get your Master's Degree for free? I would you take a swing at the NFL when you can do that the next year?

24:56 I'll be I go back and get my Master's Degree for free. Listen, if I'm not, if I'm not a top-five kicker, yes, that's what I do. And I love PJ is not a top kicker this year. If I'm on the 5 best kickers in the country? Yes, I would. I would go ahead and go to the NFL. Because getting paid what eight hundred thousand dollars a year. To kick a football. Yeah, even more. Yeah. But good ones get even more, but probably right at the gate, unless you're a leader of elite. You're probably getting 800k. Thank easily, ee.

25:37 I like run. Kick some 50 yarders if I'm him I would come back. You have the extra year. and I'm like, you, I mean, I say something and, you know, somebody that played a long-ass Tony NFL Florida and is a fucking Legend in Hokie Nation, Pulaski County's, own, Shayne Graham and Graham.

26:29 Okay, Shane kicked for what six fifteen years. 14 years, the good kicker made, literally the most In my opinion, let me preface that. Some people think I may be other anymore. In my opinion, who made the most important kick in Virginia history, in tight situations. And, you know, if we release which coaching staffs, if for no other reward, if for no other reason, You need good long Trappers. You need good place because you need good punters. There you go.

27:10 Talk to him. Yep, he did that shit for a long time. He was probably a singer. Is probably the primary holder for people like literally or not. He was on the primary holder but literally he probably worked more deep and special teams and then what he did at Central Michigan, when he was there for a year, you know, I mean there would be no complaints from Hokie Nation on that. So that's like a that's a no brain higher. That probably has a lot more upside than it does you any sort of risk. So, That seems like a good one to go with no doubt as reported by Mike McDaniel. Khalil Herbert.

27:52 If he was asked, if he was positive, he was done playing football at Virginia Tech very for the answer, but you got not 100%. Yeah, don't tease us. Please don't tease us. This is just been because we would love another year of Khalil Herbert the way he ran. Yes, on. But also you know he's also good get paid if he can get paid so we like like we talked about running back shelf life is just it's so short. We if you can get paid, go get paid young man. Same thing I said when David Wilson left a year early.

28:32 Yep and I know that didn't work out with the Giants because of the injury. But he's still got paid. He's one time, wouldn't it wasn't a big one but it was a good one. This has been a great night. Night. Somebody else who made himself to money tonight in Divine Diablo. I think now it's long as he goes out does well at the combine I think he is going day to ya. Gotta pick had some big hit, some big stops on third down, played it played his ass off, was had a couple knockdowns on some, some passes defense.

29:13 So I I mean he did he had one play that stood out to me as a bad play tonight and that that really wasn't, it didn't ultimately impact anything. And he was all over the field, making good plays tonight. So, yeah, he definitely earned himself some money. The other person that made some money tonight, was Big Stone Gap. James Mitchell. He had himself a hell of a game. Yes, Big Stone, got dead. If that pass from Braxton was put on the money. That was a touchdown. That one deep pass on the left, sideline, that was a touchdown, he put it in any Force practice already forced James to adjust, and He adjusted and made that damn catch, like, holy shit.

30:00 I love that. We ran some slot Fades to him tonight, because we've been throwing Fades with him on the outside but we ran a couple slot Fades to him tonight. And that really kind of confused the secondary for UVA. They really kind of I lost him in the, in the shuffle there. Well, what I mean, were you able to see what they were running when he was in the slot and they were in this phase? But we were running with the outside guy. I want to say it was either a hitch or like some sort of dig, okay? It was something to get the safeties. I To where he was looking inside. Because I mean Mitchell had room to run a couple times he did and he did run a couple times.

30:43 Yeah definitely he made some money on. I tell you who else look good tonight and why did it take so many weeks for Janet Holston to be the spell 458 tonight. Averaging a little over flight, right at four and a half. And did he gave the stiff arm Fury? Night on that one, dude. He was running angry tonight. I loved it. I loved it. That's the irritating part like Brian will get you angry for a second you from game one. It was khalil's going to get 18 to 23. Jalen's going to get somewhere around 10 to 15 and we're going to do good ship Blackshear.

31:28 We're going to do fucking good shit about. We're gonna run screams. We're going to run sweet. We're going to run things that people have to not be therefore we're going to use them in the slot as a wide receiver. What will you still haven't used them enough? Yeah, I mean here's the Tears by thing here, here's my beef. If you're not going to use, if you're going to underuse changa Hodges much as you did all year, why are you not also going to use black sheer like if so here I mean in a perfect world here's what happened. If we go three wide receiver set change and comes on plays outside tastes lines into the slot. But if you're not going to do that with changa, why are you not just keeping Tay outside and using black sheerness lat? Yeah, it's ass-backwards.

32:12 Well, either way it's it has a whole year to figure out Cheng. Ahac can play outside receiver a little bit. Well thank you play both spots. What? Yeah he's a damn good over the head. The bigger issue with that is with Herbert who can do it all. You can put him out there running routes, you can make them think even if you lose some Jet motion. When he goes to the opposite side, you can still fucking run a rat out of him. Running that motion to me. This is the stubbornness that we talked about with this coaching staff where it's like we made a decision early on. In the process that Blackshear is a running back that can do other things and not a guy that can just do everything and if they just started from that premise, then they would have probably been. Okay, working in other spots and because they said he's a running back first.

33:02 They were trying to like square peg round hole this shit the whole time instead of just saying, here's what you do. Well, we're going to try to get you the ball in these situations so you can do it well also both Brock and Braxton and bowl games so you know, yeah. I mean we we might end up getting one more, we might, you know, get 226 regardless. Six and six ain't pretty but it is what it is. It is what it is and now I'm tempted, right? Own me. Will if we get another bowl game will talk about another bowl game, ladies and gentlemen.

33:45 We're not going to say oh we don't care about it. Well I mean we do care about I mean we still these are still our guys man. Regardless how we feel about the coaching staff regardless of what happens in the next seven days on that front you know, these are still the guys we've cheered for some of them up too. Some of them up to eight years. We're Cherry bridgework the street at Youngtown. Say I know what you're saying, and by the way, Justice is Justice. Retie Smith will not be returning. Justice dream will not be returning. That dude should be a doctor by now. I'm trying to see what bones are eligible and we go to some of the other bowls.

34:33 I mean, military bowls, probably open the Boca Raton bowl is open and somebody has Us in there. That's on the 22nd that would be a really good bowl for ratone close enough. I mean, I've heard we don't want to do more than like a one-day travel situation. Even so I don't know, I don't know but I don't know how much of that rumor is based on truth or if it's based on just people talking shit that well if it's but the whole piece is you're not doing your normal bowl stick though. The bowls aren't the same this year. The bowls are just two games. You're not, I mean I'm assuming the bowls are going to give I'm assuming every Bowl this year is just going to say, there's not going to be some sort of shopping spree shit like that.

35:21 You get, here's your four hundred dollar gift card, Visa gift card. Yeah. And here's your nice watch. And here's your pair of sunglasses. No fun shit. But you still get a goodie bag. Here's your goody bag. Have fun. Here's your goody bag. Have fun. And if it is the Boca Raton Bowl, which is essentially nine days from, now, things have to be moved pretty quick. Really quick kee-rect, right? But also it's the 22nd so I think it's like an afternoon or not, you know, the bottom quarter times you have to the night game because that's where oh we're going to. We're going to get back to the Boca Raton on a second.

36:03 So Justin Fuente and Bronco Mendenhall have faced all five times or six times. There have been two massive brawls, there was a massive brawl tonight, ACC network, doesn't know how to do content. They immediately to the fucking huddle like a bunch of dipshit. No one cares what the people in the Huddle or talking about the fight? But there has been to fight when these guys teams collectively get together. Guess whose team lost in both of those games. The standard, the standard they lack discipline. Clearly?

36:50 No, I mean I know some of y'all know I called it out on Twitter, but when we cancelled earlier this year, there were coaches. The fans are running their mouth, but I expected that I did not expect a couple Coaches on that staff to pop off on Twitter about discipline and the standard. And, you know, we do this better than everyone else. So we're not going to cancel games because it go because we do everything the right way. You know what, what? You know what you didn't do? The right fucking way. You didn't fucking lose the right way. You went out like a sad ass bitch. Woo has bitch. If you notice at the end of the game, they were coming on the field.

37:32 Before we were, yeah. So they were looking to start some shit. They were they were look at yeah, they got their asses handed to and they want to get their anger out. Yep. Devon and Tavian also want to play in a bowl, okay. So you got workers like that. There will be more previews. Maybe we get the normal fee we go. Get one more, Scouting Report know your enemy bitches. Fuckin'-a fuckin'-a Trade turning. I'm going to get my baby back, enjoy your vacation. I said this longer than a year ago. Thank you. This is fucking awesome.

38:16 I mean the players are jacked fans are Jack tonight. You know what? If it was a long-ass November, yep, it wasn't a great start to December but you know what buddy? This is a good way to go out, damn, right? It is a competition. This is how we want to end it every damn year. It is how every fucking year you know we haven't moved the needle on on where we stand about the coaching staff, but dammit this feels good. It does man. It feels good for the kids. The kids played their hearts out the kids to play their hearts out all year they put in didn't put in bad situations numerous times.

38:59 I don't think this team per se ever really quit And there's a lot of good kids on this team and I'm sure there's there's fights in the locker room but you know what? That's going to happen. I'm sure there's Rumblings and grumbling than this locker room and that's going to happen. But you know, to end it like this. To end it, even knowing if we go into a new regime in the next week or so, hear that. The cup is back.

39:40 It didn't all in bad we still have even if the guys who need to go to the NFL go the end of it. We still have a lot of talented players. There are still some talented guys who hopefully on Tuesday or human Wednesday will sign on the dotted line. Yep and if those guys who signed on the dotted line, if changes are made or not happy, I don't think any new head coach walking in. In will not honor or excuse me, not released a letter of intent for a kid to go, find something else. Yeah. And I think I think between all the waivers that some of the, the the classes getting this go around, I mean, it's kind of a free-for-all for next year. I mean, I wouldn't see why you wouldn't take, guys, knowing that if things don't work out in the next year, that they can enter the portal and move forward and we It talked about how that works for this class relative to whether or not a one-time transfer rule gets put into place there, still some gray area about that.

40:49 But that even you know, that makes taking the talent that is already signed on board even even more less of a blockage to that. Because you know, there's there's there's less liability for them. There's less liability for you. If things don't work out, you take a chance. If you can Can turn them into a player that you need. It's true. And the one-time transfer thing is going to be essentially approved next month. And everybody was saying, well, the one-time transfer is going to should take place August 1st 2021. And I'm sitting here in, people are trying to go out there. I'm not saying who is trying to say out there like you can't transfer, but if it's August 1 of 20 21, couldn't you essentially leave a program?

41:35 Now you're going to be behind a little bit on things. And then transfer to your new school, August 1st. Right. As Camp begins. We theoretically, yeah, being I think you'd have to have a lot of things. Done in principle before that of talks with coat. Like you can't put your name in the portal August 1 and not already. Have your destination already lined up and ready to roll. You know I'm saying it's true but the whole thing is you can have your destination lined up, ready to roll, but if you it's the enrollment, right? Is it the enrollment or with is when you announced your transfer?

42:17 It's got to be enrollment because you've got guys to announce their transfers, but they don't enroll until months upon months later. Yeah. I guess what I'm saying is that, can you announce your transfer in like, after spring, practice say But then not actually enroll in your new institution until the first or does that count as your one-time transfer, or do you have to do? You have to wait for the new rule to be in place before you even put your name in the portal? I don't, I don't know. There's so this is why the NCAA sucks because they don't answer half the questions that people are going to have before they put me rules in.

42:57 Well, if the thing is, I would almost be stupid to say they should put it to August, which everybody says they're going to do. What is she being done? When it's past is past as of July 1. Like no, no, fuck you lie, fuck, you know, what do you li Jun One Summer sessions. I'm with that too, I can get with that. Yeah, like we're going to push you back to the end of the no no, no, no, their kids who are going to be coming out of Spring ball who are seeing things happen that feel like they need to make the move right in. This isn't a good fit whether it's scheme or coaching or whatever, maybe just not not climbing the depth chart fast enough for for one's comfort. You know that that should be with a call is made. There's no And that if something is past that you would bump it back all the way to all these.

43:52 That seems arbitrary. And if it's arbitrary making arbitrary in favor of something that makes sense for the upcoming season and not something that makes pretty much locks everything in through the 2021 season all those or equally wild shit and boy, the portals going. They need to make it like that. They need to make it 5-1. Yeah, they need to essentially make it the end of people semesters either 51. Maybe May 15th, I mean our summer session. Start around the middle of made into May, so it's true. But that's the integral a, they'll do some really stupid like, September 1st. Yeah, they'll fuck up a wet dream. No doubt. God after I'm dropping dimes tonight, ladies and gentlemen, pray to God.

44:39 Every single every single fucking listen of the boundary Corner podcast knows that reference line just made. It will be awesome. You know. We're like, we're really off cuff tonight, y'all, we're looking at Twitter, we're watching games were drinking. It's again. This is, this is like who we are. There are so many fucking receipts being pulled Jesus. It's so good. When you get to pull the receipts and such a fulfilling way. It's true man.

45:19 Yeah, that's one reason. Like, yeah, I when You go choose to make a public statement on whatever your social media platform is. Just know if it's sports-related specific game-related, there are people out there, they don't call your ass out, and if you have a thin skin, don't do it. If you've got big skin or you've got a fucking rock for ahead. That's this guy right here, you can do it because it's like you fucking and ain't the first time brother

46:53 What really kind of also sucked about it. The reason that game is essentially played when there's no other games is the focus on it and today you had, you know, you had some other good matchups right around the time which if anybody chose to follow my pics today? I'm sorry. Oh yeah. Just I mean we got we got Army-Navy right, true. I think I was the only one I got right. I'm Mighty got one other one, right. Oh, we completely fucked the ACC up like, oh yeah, that was all. I hope. None of y'all listen to me today in the ACC. Oh my God we got right? Was Virginia Tech. Holy shit, you just kind of like a good up a little bit here. I'm going to carve up a little bit here. I mean, what they did to us was bad, but at least we had some excuses to say.

48:37 We haven't shit the bed this year, it's our time, that's more than shooting the bit. That is shitting. The bed jumping up and down and shrim earring, it all over the place and then not immediately going to take a shower. It's been coming to work. You smell. Did you shit the bed before he came in?

49:22 Just looking here. Stat wise today for 64 total offense. I bet not bad above average day. Not not our best game but they were Heroes sex. Yeah I like that. No dumb penalty. Thank you. Brock thinks that he held he was jaw jacking. You saw several times. Oh yes, he was in that school but he didn't do anything. He played, he played smart. You can be an asshole as long as you do it in a smart fashion. That's how I played as well.

50:03 Be a dick, but you got to be smart shit. I will occasionally throw a block that you might deem illegal, but I do it between the whistles. Get the flag, the other big piece today, Brian. Tell me if you saw this coming 55, total rushing yards, are you? Yay. You know, I didn't think they were going to have a great game running the ball, just looking at the tape like I like I was saying with looking at tala Pop. I mean he's had some some good games but nothing about him scream, delete nothing about him, scream like a guy that was gonna go out there and just grab the game by the balls. And I mean they just were inconsistent like, you know, I thought their offensive line played an okay game, but they just really got off schedule.

50:56 They got off schedule, early. Well, and once they were off schedule we could we could put some pressure on the quarterback. Well I mean the other big piece for on. What do we talk about their line? They're giving up lesson two sacks and gang. Yeah, yeah. Or today. Yeah, because we got them behind the sticks and we were able to, you know, bring bring a little bit of pressure. Let our guys pin their ears back even when we dropped in the coverage, it's true. It's very true. It was, it was very interesting because it could have been more Armstrong wiggle his way out of a couple of additional sacks today than one was The Pollard one. Like I'm still trying to figure out how that kid got away from Pollard.

51:39 Literally it's like Potter was they're going to make the tech, he stopped and Pollard's freaking momentum. Just flipped him over the little guy and it was pretty wild because, you know, you kind of sit there. And if the whole thing is the game could have been worse. That's kind of that what that's going to make us angry because it's like what you really want to just that old-fashioned. Beat the fuck out of them 38. Nothing was it 5610? Yeah. 0, bro. In this 50, 60 in that first year, just absolutely squirrel stomping so this could have easily been a forty five to Fifteen game. If we did, just converted a couple more drives.

52:21 Once we got across the 50, like, we had some good drives that ended in either, three points are no points. Six tackles for loss and I know. So they were only averaging about four games. So again, we go up on that. Do you get some line, play too? Damn, good game bar. Know again is asserting himself as the best player on the defense. After again first couple games the season he look like a one down player and now he's the best player the defense. So yes, it hats off to him for taking the coaching and getting better throughout the year and you know, hats off to 2 T and T 4. It's them up and give them their yeah there's you know it's going to be tough for Bill to make to stay.

53:04 I think his relationship for went a lot of people like the net sucky like the NFL for this, but the thing is you kind of pictured it out, Brian. He's already made the defensive line that much better him and Darryl in one year and I'm sure Darrell's been a sponge with the stuff that builds brought to the table. So on the that's that's made him a better Coach. And you know, I'm hoping that we hang on to tap going forward, just because of his relationship his relationship with 757 in Virginia recruits. Yeah, I haven't been a player at Virginia Tech and a player in the NFL. I just think that there's so much Bona fides and upside and also dollar for dollar just to a good keep. If we're looking at what he's getting paid, it would seem silly.

53:53 Not to hold on to that guy. Whereas Bill. Probably, Over overpaid. What we could have paid a defensive line coach but at the same time, we're getting a whole lot in return return there. But just based on this relationship with Fuente and uncertainty of what the assistant salary pool is going to be. I feel like that money could be spent better on another coach if that makes sense. Because you can probably get someone to whether it's whether you bring in a DC. It's also a d-line coach to work with tap another year. Whether you bring in another d-line coach to work with tap, you can probably bring another d-line coach for 200 to 225 or as big as in the bit low to mid 300s.

54:42 I'm a real bills over 400. So e is okay. Yeah, I couldn't remember where he was on salary, but yeah, so dollar-for-dollar, I think you could do better. Next year, just because of that situation. But for what we needed this year, I think he was the right, the right way to go Mills 400,000. Okay, it was 4,000 and I just can I say something else? It's better. If you don't also hire Clays and over pay him, let's be, are we putting chips on the table? Let's be honest and true. That looks like a great. Your 450,000 for a lot of backer coach that you didn't get in terms of return on investment, we definitely didn't get our return on investment not because our linebacker Corps was considered one of the better ones that need plates or the weaker. Another thing about the defensive line is still only one game this year quarterback.

55:43 Torched us. Armstrong was 515 423. I don't think we expected that But Armstrong did her Kingdon her Sam, Hal dinners, we got gas in the running game but no quarter. I mean really outside of liberty. No quarterback no but it's on our ass and that's a huge step that is a huge step. Especially with, you know, the majority of those guys being at least guys that do have a dual threat element, even if it's not there their first move, right? Playing exactly.

56:25 What else for on today? Because it's been a good day. It's been a good day. Ladies and gentlemen, it's been a great is as good of a day. That, you know, you're probably rolling into firing your head coach. This is about as good as it gets ladies and gentlemen, it's true. It's the feeling is. And again we we stayed at our feelings here. The feeling is it's probably going to happen over the next three to four days. I need about 2 by 2's. He makes sense to me. Well, whenever the whenever the two and a half million comes off. Yeah. That's what happened. We theorized sometime after Tuesday, after Tuesday, there is so many things floating around on the rumor Mills. It's in fucking saying and people are putting shit out there, left for trying to parse out what makes sense and everything else.

57:23 I mean, yeah. You some, some of the things we're hearing makes sense, and then some of the things we're hearing, we're like, that's a big-ass grain of salt. We're going to take with that one. Yeah. And depending on how quick it comes together, now, obviously, we kind of tease last week, we've got someone coming on next week to talk with us. Someone who is a donor, someone who is a sponsor of Athletics, alumni, A couple other things about him that it's going to be a lot of fun. Yeah, Thursday night. I should have taken off Friday. Not Monday.

58:08 Yeah. We're probably drinking during this one true. More than more than normal on a Thursday night. ER, I don't know, I don't know about more than normal. I think. I'll keep my normal beverage consumption up. I don't feel like working on a Friday, when a fucking hangover. Got it, go roll the dice. It's my last work, day until January. A fourth. I will, I will go hard on that day. I don't care. This is currently giving me the finger. I'm essentially still got three real days of work after that after Friday, and Ladies of real actual work work and then it's going to be a bunch of half day, he's the rest of the year you're going to have days.

58:53 I get the There's winter break for you. Have fun? Yeah I will. I will have fun in those 16 days. I have off. Is your me great, man. I want to get up. Whatever the hell I want to get up? Work, probably to lunch, shut down the computer at lunch go. Make a sandwich, hang with the kiddo because the kiddo Brian already knows this is the the oldest one. We're going to give it to him tomorrow. Evening, he's getting in tendo switch. So, pretty much while I'm going to be playing in tendo switch Brian, I will be probably FaceTiming. You Monday at least twice as you help me get this shit set up correctly, I got you got me.

59:37 I got you a two-faced, I'm comfortable. I will be technical assistance. Here's the, here's the funniest piece because my mother came up and visited him today. Want to see him for his birthday. And she brought my sister's gift up and they essentially gave him some money aim. What? He doesn't have the system yet, I don't know.

1:01:07 Are you know I'm right on. We're going to be like playing all fucking day. It's going to be ridiculous. My wife's going to eat me, we were talked into heading down to my in-laws Christmas night. So we'll be getting down there right at dinnertime. So spreading out the travel a little bit more than normal. So we're still going to sell Boston for a couple days. Then head back on Christmas Eve. And then heading down there. Probably about four or five o'clock on on Christmas day. So least we got to get to do, you know, the family stuff in the morning and I'll probably have my dad over at some point. Well, it's a long weekend, that's a day and then after, like, after that, we will probably come back on Saturday or early Sunday and wine will be doing. I'll have a, I'll have from that point. I'll have 10 days until I have to work again so you're doing your part do.

1:02:09 Well man, if nothing else is truly breaking, this has been a lot of fun. Again, the Hokies take the cup. Back, there is a current picture up here all where to go with ham and tap, man, I think I felt like maybe they had to come up with them. You see that? Hey hey that son of a bitch. I'm trying to find the Tam tap. When where did it go? Let me go check tap out here. Yeah, live-tweeting Folk. Yeah, let's take a look at the all purpose yards for juice Herbert real quick before we close out then. Okay, 1766 three players in hockey history with better figures.

1:03:11 In a year. Yeah, David yes. 2011, he's tops because David broke 2253. It's not even it's not nobody else's clothes. Cyrus no. Probably. I mean, if you're thinking think of the two other in the P, Cara that are considered the top running backs, AJ, AJ 1808 in 2003 1600, Plus on the ground. Close. I mean who's the other top running back in that round Liam's?

1:03:57 Yeah, Rhonda 1835 and 2009. Okay, okay. So David is essentially the goat on that because David's a freak. Well, David combined, probably pretty much every, you know, statistic that Kevin and Ryan have, but he also had a shit ton of kick return yards. So fucking good at that shit. I'm interested to see, do you think he'll be a finalist for the doke? I think he's like Fringe right now I think I mean if we look at it man, if he played a Full Slate of games, he would have be been ahead of everybody.

1:04:39 But David in this category, well I say that because like here and look there are five guys ahead of him. Yardage wise, pretty solid, Iowa State South Carolina's, running back mean, I Jake Harris. Are we talking rushing yards or all-purpose? Rushing yards. Okay, he's right. He's probably got most of them. Beat an all-purpose though. Yep, I'm actually pulling that up as we speak and we, as we were about to close the show, folks to drunks get together and start talking about something, this is my fault. I brought up the tangent here, so all right ever. If everyone's like, this is like the Return of the King where you guys are throwing an ending and And adding another ending and then adding another ending.

1:05:27 Yeah, that's my fault. Neither of them are close to him on all-purpose. The only person close to him. All purpose, why don't you Hold On? I'll know he's the king. All-purpose Bryce Hall is behind him by 128 yards. Okay so yeah I'd make the case you should probably be four guys. That should probably be. Bruce Hall etn nauseating, Khalil. Especially if they take into account, he sat out one game completely completely completely only had a handful of carries in the another game and then was under used in the game after that, and still the sitting with these pretty ass numbers. So, black one and then overall you look at the teams that, you know, Hall.

1:06:27 All etn. Nausea hair is play for? Yeah, they're all potentially winning conference championships next week. Meanwhile while potential red slopes coming in for a lot of people known. Yep. And don't worry, we'll talk about that next week and anything wants. So I'm trying to go through all of this stuff that's been pretty wild. It's been a fun night. It has been a damn fun night. It's been a damn damn funnest night to see the guys play the way.

1:07:14 They did to see the game break the way they broke. You know, by the way, Justin Fuente is essentially trending on Twitter over. 80,000 20,000 mentions in the last two hours. Follow us on Twitter, Facebook. Subscribe to us on your favorite podcasts, including Amazon Spotify.

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