Hokies 2023 Season Preview Panel

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And welcome back to the Boundary
Corner Podcast with my partners

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Brian Siegler and Jonathan
Talley.

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I am Curtis Wilson and this
episode is brought to you by

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Doctor Lord Jeremy Counts at the
Main Street Pharmacy in

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Blacksburg and Boys, in less
than a month we going to be down

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at the Main Street Pharmacy in
Blacksburg.

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What you say?
Yes, Sir.

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Yes Sir.
Looking forward to it, you know.

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Always good to go down there to
three O 1 S Main St.

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Say hello to Jeremy, say hello
to everyone and get ready for a

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game man.
And this is a special night

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everybody this, this is
something that we did last year,

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received very well.
We wanted to tweak it a little

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bit, get some a couple of new
faces on here, do it a little

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bit bigger this year.
So this is the 2023 hokey.

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Season preview I'm a new face.
I'm a new face on here.

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I want a new face.
We really redid it.

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We got a whole.
Weird host.

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Now definitely redid.
Full revamp so if if y'all don't

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know we got.
Non panelists total one is our

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very own Shelton Moss coming in
on segment 2.

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And what we need from you is
each segment is going to have a

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little part where we're going to
get some audience questions in

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there for the panelists.
So if you've got some questions,

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you won't answer it, whether
it's general where we can kind

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of run it each segment or
whether it's something specific

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for that panelists for that
segment.

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Let us know, put it in the
comments, we'll get it on air

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for you.
And let's let's start it off

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here.
We got the the first panelists.

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He is a third generation hokey
who has been attending games at

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Lane Stadium since he was two
years old.

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He's a podcaster, content
creator, and one of the elite

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members of the Virginia Tech
Twitter community.

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Please welcome Grayson Wimbish.
Gentlemen, thank you for having

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me.
It's good to be here.

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Been a little while, but you
know, we had so much fun last

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year.
I appreciate.

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The opportunity to be invited
back to do this, How are we?

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Good.
Everybody feels yeah, I.

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Feel like it, Valley?
Show how good we feel.

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Man, how How's the weather out
there?

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How's the weather?
How's the weather out there in

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LA, man?
It's good.

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It's hot.
It's surprisingly humid, if you

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can believe that.
But Sun is shining like always.

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Awesome.
Well, we're glad to have you

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here, man.
You got to eat.

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Dry heat out there.
It is a dry heat.

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You know, mom and dad were out
here last week.

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Same with my little brother.
And they're like, dude, I can't

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believe you know, 75 degrees out
here it means 75 degrees, not 75

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and feels like 96.
So very grateful for that, I

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should say.
Nice.

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Nice.
Well, next person we have is

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Uncle Dan.
We had Dan Pulse coming in.

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Go ahead and bring my boy Dan
in.

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Dan is the host of Tales from
the Terrordome.

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He is your local PK's taste
tester.

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He was the Cheetah Wings taste
tester.

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Coach liaison.
Dan, how you feeling, man?

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Man, I'm good, bro.
Damn, we're a second, You know

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that?
I'll tell you, this is a good

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looking crew right here, man.
Don't come in here, television.

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Don't come in here with the
weird shit.

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Don't you start the day now,
man.

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How you living, Dan?
Man, I'm good.

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I can't complain, bro.
I'm fresh.

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I'm fresh off a fan the Fan Day
weekend in Blacksburg, so let's

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try and keep it together.
Did you go the whole weekend or

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just Sunday?
Saturday and Sunday I tied one

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on Saturday night and then
Sunday I went to Fan Fest.

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There we go.
There we go, very nice.

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Well, we appreciate you having
us stand.

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We know you've interviewed a lot
of people in the last few

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months.
So we got some good questions

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for you tonight.
Now our third panelists up in

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the first segment here.
He's been in the Vt podcast game

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a long time.
He is the Co host of the Two

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Deep podcast.
He is a Virginia Tech alumni and

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definitely a dedicated Hokies
fan.

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Like to welcome on Pete B, Pete
B, how you living today man?

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What's up fellas?
Thanks for having me guys.

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How you doing tonight, Pete?
It's.

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I feel good.
I'm like Tally, man.

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I got I got a little drink in my
hand as as I will be known to do

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on a podcast every now.
And you would have thought.

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I'm not sure we all look good.
Cat Tally looks pretty.

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I figured.
That man, this hat game is so

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strong, man.
None of us wear hats.

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Occasionally you'll see Curtis
with the hat, but Curtis takes

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the hat on and off so often,
maybe then you know, it's just

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it's you can't do it.
You can't live with it.

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Yeah, I went hatless tonight.
Had to show off the hair.

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And yeah, I'm ready for this,
dude.

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Let's.
Let's get it going.

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I got two things for you, Pete.
I got two things, Pete, before

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we get started.
Number one, what are you

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drinking?
Okay, I got.

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I mean it's an IPA so and that's
not going to surprise anybody.

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It's a it's a traditional it's
just a little loss in sip of

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sunshine.
You can grab this just about

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anywhere on the East Coast.
But I'm I'm feeling pretty good

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right now.
All right, that's good.

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Sip of Sunshine.
I'm not sponsored by them.

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Pete say y'all got some good
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If y'all want to go get Sip of
Sunshine, don't do it #2.

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I looked at a picture you put
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I don't know if it was your
Abbey or you just posted a

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picture.
Wonderful looking picture.

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Everybody's out there.
They got the maroon on, they got

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the orange on Y'all got the big
Vt behind you, and then you got

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a dunce in the front with a Big
Blue Delaware shirt on.

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Why y'all didn't get the man of
Vt shirt man?

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Listen, that was an old picture.
It was the day we played

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Delaware back in 2017.
And we we whooped them.

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I think we might have shut him
out that day, but he went, that

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was a buddy of mine from I'm
from Delaware.

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So he came down to visit, go to
the game, and there actually was

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a fair amount of blue hens
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But they were all very nice
because they knew they were

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going to get their butts kicked.
That was back when we could

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count on stuff like that.
All right.

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I just want to see what was up
with the Delaware Sherry, but

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OK, perfect.
Yeah, the Blue Hens do have a

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pretty good football following.
Like they have a pretty, pretty

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solid fan base.
So the fact that.

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They're dedicated.
Yeah, they're traveling for

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that.
All right, let's start it off

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here.
So we'll go ahead and break it

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in there.
We got the the cordialities out

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the way here.
So we're going to start with the

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question for my man Grayson.
A whole lot of movement for the

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hoagies.
It's offseason. 40% of that

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roster got flipped.
Some solid pickups in both

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portal windows.
Net positive coaching shuffle.

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I feel like best summer on the
recruiting trail since probably

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2017.
A distinct lack of negative

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headlines of the Turkey bacon
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All that said, how you feeling
about the first full offseason

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for coach Brian, that staff?
Thank you, Brian.

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This is a great question and I
will try and be as short winded

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as possible.
But Long story short, I feel

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really good about this offseason
given the results of the 2022

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football season.
You know this staff is obviously

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they're selling some level of a
dream.

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The Hokies, as we all know, won
three games and Coach prize

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first year out.
I think it's fair to say we all

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expected that.
But this summer, man, Coach Pry

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and his staff have gone out and
gotten commitments from kids

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like Kaylin Adams, Gabriel
Williams, Gerard Johnson and

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Chance Wiggins.
What do I love about that

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specifically?
Well, two of the names I just

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mentioned are two of the top 10
recruits in the Commonwealth of

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Virginia, and Adams and Johnson
are both from Virginia Beach, as

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many Hokies are well aware,
Virginia Beach.

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For a long time was a
longstanding recruiting hotbed

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and A and a stronghold.
Back in the days when the legend

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coach Jim Kavanaugh was selling
ketchup popsicles to football

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players wearing white gloves.
And then the blue Bloods, they

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got wise.
The Ohio States.

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The world.
The Penn States.

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The world.
The Alabama's the Nick Saban's.

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They came knocking.
They've been coaching for eons.

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So getting commitments from 4
star talent.

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Always exciting, getting
commitments from in state

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talent, always exciting.
Hearing an exorbitant amount of

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good news compared to bad news
is always something to

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celebrate.
When we've had many off seasons

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that have had a lot of negative
undertones, if you will.

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Now many will say and I've
already said well, you got to

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develop these kids that are
coming in and there's a lot of

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validity to that.
I'm in that camp.

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You look at Matt Brown at you
and seeing what he's done.

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Half of those kids he recruited
to go there are somewhere else

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now.
Most notably Tony Grimes.

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He's at A and M and he was, he
was the guy.

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And really, you know they
haven't developed a lot of these

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these guys.
So I'm hoping that Coach Fry and

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his staff, once these guys are
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we developed them.
Only time will tell.

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We're going to have to wait
around and find out.

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So if I had, in summation, to
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I'm giving it an A minus.
It's gone as about as well as it

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possibly could have after a
three and eight season.

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But you pull a 5 star kid
wishful thinking or Chris Cole,

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that's bumped up to an A+.
So there was a lot to be excited

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about in this offseason.
I hope that answers your

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question.
That's, that's a great way to

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answer the question, Grayson.
And you're right, it's it's a

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recruiting binge that we haven't
seen here in Virginia probably

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since 2011, 2010 guys like David
Wilson's class when it was the

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way the top ten had three or
four guys.

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I think Logan was in that class
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So yeah, I mean it, it has been
an A minus.

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And then you didn't mention
this, but I think we all see it.

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I think we see Coach Brian, we
feel he is part of the

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university.
You see him out there, Special

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Olympics Golf last week.
You see him obviously.

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Dan, you you've seen him
numerous times out within the

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community on a Saturday evening,
which is always great to see.

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But PB, I'm going to go in a
little different direction for

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the question I got for you, man
between 2 Deep and Memory Lane

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that you take care of.
You talk a lot about Hokey

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History.
You've seen a lot of Hokey

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history in your time.
Let's pull out the history books

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on this one.
On paper, on paper right now.

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Do you feel there is a team in
Hokey History that is has a

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similar pedigree to the one
we're about to witness this

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season?
Or do you think this is a unique

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team?
Well, every team has its own

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unique characteristics, right?
And if you look at last year, we

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don't often win three or less
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So trying to pick a team from
recent history, you're not going

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to get perfect unless you go all
the way back to 92.

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But I do think that the 2019
team some then that a team that

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a lot of us can remember and and
watch closely has some

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similarities.
For one thing, 2018, the year

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before 2019, wasn't a good
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That was our first losing year
since 1992.

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We went six and seven.
We lost the ball game to

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Cincinnati.
So coming in to 2019, we had a

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second year transfer quarterback
named Ryan Willis because he

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started the the vast majority of
the games in 2018 and we had a

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guy behind him who some people
were clamoring for, a mobile

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quarterback who hadn't really
gotten a chance and had in

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hooker.
That's literally.

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Wells and Kyron drones like
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It's a very similar set up
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Then you factor in the receiver
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Turner, Hazelton, Tavion,
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Let's go to the tight ends,
Mitchell and Keen.

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I mean that team had some really
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hoping Jennings and Lane and
Felton and Daquan Wright and

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Holloway Gots.
Now we's hoping those guys can

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be what the guys in 2019 were.
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Malachi and Mcleese.
Mclees was a guy who was slight,

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wasn't the biggest running back
in the world, kind of struggled

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with injuries and then in 20/19
he went for 800 plus and had a

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really nice run during that
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So flipping to the defense, you
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from that year, great corners,
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secondary, strength of our
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secondary this year as well.
You had good safety, Diablo

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Connor and who is our, who's our
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Floyd, of course.
And so we look at Stroman, we

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look at people.
There's a lot of similarities.

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Now, clearly I want the pressure
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defensive line to be better this
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there was very few sacks.
But I for those reasons, I'm

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going to say the 2019 team.
Grayson has a great deal of

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knowledge in this area as well,
and I know you guys do too.

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I couldn't really think of
anything.

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But I think for those reasons,
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correlaries to this year,
especially with that

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quarterback.
I also hope that our quarterback

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doesn't suck for the first four
games this year.

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We all hope.
That please, please, I can't do

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it again like we saw at the
start, especially the way it

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started last year, I can't do.
It I can't take it.

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Yeah.
I can't take it.

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We didn't.
When you do your own thing,

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Pete, you can, you can say that
on here.

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We ain't gonna even talk like
that, right?

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We ain't gonna even talk about
the quarterback being the first

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four games sucking.
No, I said.

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I hope he's.
Not.

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Yeah, I know.
We don't even want to bring it

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up.
We don't want to juju.

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I'm sorry.
No, no.

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Listen, I hope that Grant Wells
does well.

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How about?
That no man, awesome man.

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But no.
That honestly how you answered

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that question was awesome
because I didn't even think

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about the similarities between
the teams and.

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When you talk about the
transfers coming in, like that's

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why we get smart people on here
who know how to dig into stuff.

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Because people like me, I just
go off the top, you know, kind

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of like Dan, you know, that's
what he does.

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Dan goes down, Dan goes down to
Blacksburg.

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We know, Dan, you've been down
there.

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You build a lot of
relationships.

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You pretty much are what Coach
Pry preaches about.

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You know, you Coach Pry talks
about the relationships.

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You've built some of those.
You've been down, you've

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interviewed players, you've
interviewed recruits, you've

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interviewed coaches.
You've done a good job of that.

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You know we appreciate your
content.

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We appreciate you having a good
time and sharing that with us.

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But I will ask you my question
for you is through that, through

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that insight that you've got and
through those relationships that

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you've built, what gives you the
warm and fuzzies about this

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season that's coming up?
And also do you feel any pause

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about maybe this season?
I've been blessed to develop the

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relationships that I've
developed.

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Probably learned that from my
mom.

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She's always been a networking
queen, so it's really about who

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you know, get you in a lot of
rooms and then they figure out

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what you know, and then you stay
in those rooms, right?

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The coaching staff seems really
excited about the athleticism on

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this team.
I think we're more athletic at

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every position group now than we
were last year, but I don't

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think it's close.
Paul's wise.

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I would probably say what
everyone else is saying.

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Offensive line, Not so much the
defensive line, but I mean, you

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had Antoine Powell on one edge
and then you got a slew of

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others on the other edge.
I like our our chances of

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getting some pressure this year
and creating some mistakes from

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the opposing quarterback instead
of our own.

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But if the offensive line can
answer the call, and I think we

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can, because I met Ron Crook
this past weekend, and buddy,

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I'm a believer.
That man is intense.

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He is 1000% the epitome of an
offensive line coach and that

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man's ready to get nasty.
Yeah, before, before we hit the

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what's up man, go live button
tonight Dan was talking about

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he's like, yeah, I talked to
crook and he's like crook would

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be your type of guy.
And I was like.

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All right, all right.
So, yeah, it's good to hear

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that.
I'd like to see a little bit

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more nasty on that offensive
line.

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That's what I'm looking forward
to seeing.

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And more consistent play.
I know I've said it a lot, but I

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felt like last year Lyon was
thinking too much.

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Sometimes when you're thinking
too much, your feet don't do

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what they need to do and not not
trusting your eyes to get to

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your.
Screen so peeks of people's

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nuts.
I mean you and the wife.

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Talked about it last night, you
know, y'all talked about it last

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night about playing line.
You just should go go hit

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somebody.
You got to be like Lincoln Hawk.

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You got to be able to take the
hat and turn it around and it's

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got to be that switch and you
become a fucking different

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person.
That's what playing Offensive

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Line is about.
All right, all right, well, we

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do got one from the chat.
Let's throw that up there.

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Let's let these panelists decide
what they feel about it, what

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worries you about each, about
the team, what excites you the

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most.
And I'm keeping it open for the

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field.
So that's from my our buddy Delf

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out there.
I'll throw it back to Grayson.

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Grayson, what worries you?
What makes you excited?

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What worries me about this team?
I think it's just not knowing

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going into the season who's
going to be the starting

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quarterback.
I think that's number one.

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Just has Grant Wells shown stark
improvement?

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You know, what's the deal with
drones?

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Who's going to March out onto
the field against Old Dominion

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at 8:00 PM Eastern on September
2nd?

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And then what excites me is just
the fact that it's a clean slate

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and that, you know, last season
is behind us and there really is

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a chance to make Stark
improvements in 2023.

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I would say that is.
Definitely what I'm most excited

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about and I hope that we all see
it so.

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What about you?
The thing that excites me the

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most would probably be I really
like that wide receiver Cord,

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the new additions, Fontel said
on my Pod, Tales from the Terror

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Dome.
Check me out.

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But he said that the guys that
were there last year, like

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Gosnell, Tucker, Holloway, even
Lofton, have Really.

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Elevated their game as well.
Really been putting in that work

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this offseason, and I think what
worries me the most is health.

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Depth can't afford to take too
much hits, especially on the low

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offensive line, at least where
we're standing right now.

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I mean, we could have some
hidden gems in the locker room

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and we don't know about because
we haven't seen it.

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But what we're looking at right
now is you don't really, you

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can't really afford to have
anybody get truly banged up.

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What's exciting you?
What's making you worried?

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Well, the thing I've been
excited about, and this is just

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pretty much happened since the
start of fall camp, a little bit

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in the spring is the defensive
ends.

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Because as I said before, we
have our pass rush has been, we

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have not been Sacksburg, we have
not been the getting pressure on

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the QB, get the hurries, get the
turnovers kind of team and that

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starts at the defensive end
position.

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But we've been hearing good
stuff about Burgos, the McDonald

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that's on the D line.
A little bit less about CJ

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McCray, but Cole Nelson's going
to be fighting it out.

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A PR coming in, getting on the
highlight reel in his first like

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week at camp, That's what
excites me because that makes

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such a difference for the
secondary, just for the team in

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general.
To be able to put consistent

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pressure on the quarterback
changes everything.

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And so I've been really excited
about with that what I'm worried

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about offensive line, but
everyone knows that the issues

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we have on a line, so I'll just
say.

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In that secondary, which is so
good up front, I do worry a

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little bit about how young we
are behind the starters.

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That would be one of my
concerns.

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All right.
Definitely, definitely Pete is

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Pete is kind of right on board
with what I said as far as the

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the defensive line and having a
just having a defensive end that

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you have to kind of plan for.
You know, we haven't had that in

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a while.
Was a team is game planning for

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one of our defensive
environment.

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And I think that this year we
may have the opportunity to do

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that.
So I'm going to throw another

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question that y'all this is just
for the panel.

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I guess we'll start with
Grayson.

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You can answer this first, if
Grant Wells walks out there as

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the starting quarterback the
first game, does that change how

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you feel about the season?
For me personally, I expect

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Grant Wells to start against Old
Dominion.

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That may not be the perspective
that Virginia Tech fans enjoy,

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but I do believe it's going to
be the one that you should

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anticipate.
I imagine it's going to be the

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classic.
You go with the guy who has the

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most snaps under his belt in
maroon and orange.

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I do expect drones to see action
in the Old Dominion game though,

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150%.
But I do think by game three, by

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the end of the Rutgers game,
we're going to know who the guy

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is for the rest of the season,
whether that's Wells or drones.

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It might take an LSU in 2007, in
2007, level of quarterback

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performance out of Wells for
drones to take the job early on

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in the season, but he came to
Virginia Tech from Baylor to

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play and that's what he's going
to do.

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Yeah, I would agree with Grayson
that no, I'm doesn't change the

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way I feel about the season.
Because ever since the spring

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game, that's what I've been
thinking.

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And quarterbacks can get better,
College quarterbacks can get

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better.
We remember Brian Randall fondly

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because of what he did in 2004,
but in 2003 he was far from a

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complete quarterback and
everyone wanted Marcus Vic to

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play.
And so IT guys can develop and

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get better and I'm hoping that
that's what happens to Wells

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this year.
Yeah, I mean, I said at the

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Spring Game Live Show Pregame
that.

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Carly Jennings didn't come to
Virginia Tech to play with Grant

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Wells, but that's exactly what's
going to happen.

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Week one, he's going to play
with Grant Wells.

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I think we do see Kyron drones.
Drones is still relatively new,

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you know, so I mean at
quarterback and at Virginia

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Tech, obviously, but that might
take him some time, right, to

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get used to it.
But as long as we see him in

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packages that aren't
predictable, like the Quincy

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Patterson ones.
I think that we could have some

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Sean Glenn and Tyrod Taylor type
of magic hopefully and if not, I

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mean we're going to, I hope one
of them is the guy, right?

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Yeah, that's all we want, right?
That is.

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Always.
One of them is the guy I think

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we're going to be.
Alright, hold.

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On.
Hold on, I'm gonna say something

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real quick, and this is going to
be coming from the lips of

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Tally.
As long as nobody won the

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touchdown to 1 interception
ratio at the end of the year,

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That's what we want.
That's what we want.

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I saw a really good question
from Bryant Cobbs here and real

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quick boys, one name real quick
Grayson tell Darius Payne.

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There you go.
So Darius Payne, Dan One Guy,

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Juan Telton, Juan Felton.
Pete, I'll go Tucker Holloway.

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I was going to say Felton.
There we go.

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00:23:49,140 --> 00:23:51,660
So wild outs are going to be the
story of the year.

453
00:23:51,660 --> 00:23:53,700
I like that I'm all, say, those
new cover.

454
00:23:54,350 --> 00:23:56,310
I will say most Phillips.
I think most Phillips is going

455
00:23:56,310 --> 00:23:58,550
to pop somebody on a special
team to play Tally Brown.

456
00:23:58,550 --> 00:24:01,670
What do y'all think?
Yeah, you know, man, listen, the

457
00:24:01,670 --> 00:24:05,190
two took well, Dan said.
Felton and Pete wanted Felton.

458
00:24:05,630 --> 00:24:09,150
And I watched Felton.
Dude, I've never heard him talk.

459
00:24:09,310 --> 00:24:11,910
I really didn't know what he
looked like until I seen him at

460
00:24:11,910 --> 00:24:14,670
media day the other day.
And he might be crazy.

461
00:24:14,910 --> 00:24:18,110
And I like crazy like he just,
he was talking to him.

462
00:24:18,110 --> 00:24:20,530
He wasn't smiling.
I mean, he started smiling one

463
00:24:20,530 --> 00:24:22,770
time when they asked him about
somebody, I think they was like,

464
00:24:23,010 --> 00:24:25,130
are you and Allie Jenny friends?
And he was like, yeah, we're

465
00:24:25,130 --> 00:24:26,330
friends.
And he started smiling.

466
00:24:26,610 --> 00:24:28,090
But other than that, he was
right back to what?

467
00:24:28,450 --> 00:24:30,130
Do you like to run?
Give me a go route.

468
00:24:30,170 --> 00:24:32,290
They can't guard me like that's
what I need, man.

469
00:24:32,290 --> 00:24:34,450
I need somebody.
That is he the buyout.

470
00:24:34,490 --> 00:24:36,250
There is the Corey Moore.
Is that what we're getting?

471
00:24:36,730 --> 00:24:38,410
That's what I need, that's what
I need.

472
00:24:38,810 --> 00:24:42,650
So I got a game film.
Bring up the clip from the Sugar

473
00:24:42,650 --> 00:24:44,890
Bowl.
Man.

474
00:24:45,010 --> 00:24:47,290
Randy.
You know, I tell you.

475
00:24:48,190 --> 00:24:49,390
I'm going to have to go a little
different.

476
00:24:49,390 --> 00:24:50,750
I'm going to go Lane.
I think.

477
00:24:50,870 --> 00:24:54,190
I think he's going to kind of be
the breakout player this year.

478
00:24:54,190 --> 00:24:57,190
I think Jennings is going to get
a lot of attention and he's

479
00:24:57,190 --> 00:24:58,630
going to definitely be a dynamic
player.

480
00:24:58,630 --> 00:25:01,350
But I think Lane is going to be
the wideout.

481
00:25:01,350 --> 00:25:03,630
That kind of makes the offense
hum because he's going to be a

482
00:25:03,630 --> 00:25:07,630
guy that can move the sticks for
you but also have a game

483
00:25:07,630 --> 00:25:09,830
breaking play.
So I think that's what we've

484
00:25:09,830 --> 00:25:11,750
been missing in the offense.
We didn't have a lot of

485
00:25:12,070 --> 00:25:14,910
intermediate routes that were
successful last year.

486
00:25:15,310 --> 00:25:17,360
We were.
Sheldon's coming on the next

487
00:25:17,360 --> 00:25:18,480
segment.
We can tell you in the

488
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,360
intermediate area of the field,
we were probably one of the

489
00:25:21,360 --> 00:25:24,120
bottom Power Five teams in the
country last year.

490
00:25:24,120 --> 00:25:28,240
So a guy like Jalen Lane's going
to help with that. 100%, So I

491
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,400
mean, I like all the all the
names here because A, it's not

492
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,600
one room.
We got a couple rooms, a couple

493
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,760
of y'all wanted wide receivers,
but we're seeing it all over.

494
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,920
We think defensive line, we're
thinking secondary, we're

495
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,000
thinking wide receivers.
But let me ask y'all this

496
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,200
because we're going to have to
sit.

497
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:47,870
We got to watch ODU.
We going well, I know us three

498
00:25:47,870 --> 00:25:50,190
are going to be at Purdue and I
think a couple of y'all going to

499
00:25:50,190 --> 00:25:52,310
be there as well.
But by the end of September,

500
00:25:52,630 --> 00:25:54,270
we're we're we're leaving
Marshall.

501
00:25:55,190 --> 00:25:58,150
Where do you think we need to be
in terms of both overall record

502
00:25:58,150 --> 00:26:05,910
and I test beat overall record,
I'll say 3:00 and 2:00 because

503
00:26:05,910 --> 00:26:08,710
that away game at Marshall just
terrifies me so bad.

504
00:26:09,110 --> 00:26:11,550
And then we got PIT.
And I'm not saying we'd lose

505
00:26:11,550 --> 00:26:14,310
those games back-to-back, but
overall, the Purdue game's not

506
00:26:14,310 --> 00:26:17,110
going to be that easy.
Say what you want about Rutgers.

507
00:26:17,150 --> 00:26:19,470
It's on the road.
It's their Scarlet Day.

508
00:26:20,070 --> 00:26:22,630
It would not be good to lose the
game, but we could.

509
00:26:23,230 --> 00:26:24,910
Shiano has a tough defense up
there.

510
00:26:24,910 --> 00:26:27,070
That game could be thirteen to
10 or something.

511
00:26:27,590 --> 00:26:32,510
And so I'm going to say 3:00 and
2:00, and if it is 3 and two, I

512
00:26:32,510 --> 00:26:35,350
will actually be all right with
it because that leaves you seven

513
00:26:35,350 --> 00:26:38,550
games to potentially get three
more wins to go to a bowl.

514
00:26:38,710 --> 00:26:46,600
And that's all I want this year.
I'm going to go four and one

515
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,400
through September.
Hopefully.

516
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:54,560
I think we'll drop pit, but I'm
hoping the others are W As far

517
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:58,800
as when it comes to the ODU, you
know, pardon my French, but any

518
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,360
other result besides beating
their fucking ass is not

519
00:27:02,360 --> 00:27:05,000
acceptable.
They deserve to get stomped out.

520
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,720
This is our State Flag flagship
program.

521
00:27:09,350 --> 00:27:11,910
Hudson Card going to be great.
Don't think it's going to be in

522
00:27:11,910 --> 00:27:16,270
week two and a new offense with
a new coach and a new team and

523
00:27:16,470 --> 00:27:18,790
Rutgers?
Definitely beatable.

524
00:27:18,870 --> 00:27:23,630
You know Piscataway, NJ not
scaring anybody and Marshall?

525
00:27:23,910 --> 00:27:26,710
Very familiar.
They just they don't have it.

526
00:27:26,910 --> 00:27:28,750
Ironically enough they had Grant
Wells.

527
00:27:28,750 --> 00:27:30,470
They probably pretty good
because they don't really have a

528
00:27:30,470 --> 00:27:34,070
quarterback that we know of.
They got a good run game with

529
00:27:34,070 --> 00:27:37,790
Rashi and Ali and they got a
Stefan Gilmore's brother on

530
00:27:37,790 --> 00:27:38,750
defense.
But.

531
00:27:39,610 --> 00:27:44,130
I think we take that one and
they prize able to mold his

532
00:27:44,130 --> 00:27:47,330
vision and get these kids angry,
hungry and ready to prove

533
00:27:47,330 --> 00:27:48,450
something.
And I think we're going to go

534
00:27:48,450 --> 00:27:52,490
out there and be smashed the
first month of the season, Mr.

535
00:27:52,490 --> 00:27:58,210
Wimbush 5 games in September,
which is kind of ridiculous in

536
00:27:58,210 --> 00:28:00,530
theory.
I imagine all of us would like

537
00:28:00,530 --> 00:28:04,370
to win, all five of them.
But bottom line is, Pittsburgh's

538
00:28:04,370 --> 00:28:06,810
a better football team, better
football program than we are

539
00:28:06,810 --> 00:28:08,690
right now.
I don't anticipate winning that

540
00:28:08,690 --> 00:28:11,330
game at all.
Would I love to be wrong?

541
00:28:11,330 --> 00:28:14,210
Oh, good Lord, yes.
I would love to eat all the

542
00:28:14,210 --> 00:28:17,970
crow.
But in my mind, in my head, we

543
00:28:17,970 --> 00:28:22,170
should beat ODU, we should beat
Purdue, we should beat Rutgers

544
00:28:22,170 --> 00:28:25,450
and we should beat Marshall.
We kind of talked about it

545
00:28:25,450 --> 00:28:28,690
before we got on here.
I think we're going to drop one

546
00:28:28,690 --> 00:28:30,650
of those.
I'm not sure which.

547
00:28:30,890 --> 00:28:33,860
I'm with Pete on this.
I think we're going to be 3 and

548
00:28:33,860 --> 00:28:35,900
two.
We should be three and two by

549
00:28:35,900 --> 00:28:38,740
the end of September.
And I'm with Dan in the in the

550
00:28:38,740 --> 00:28:42,260
sense that good Lord, there will
be hell to pay if you drop it to

551
00:28:42,260 --> 00:28:45,820
ODU at 8:00 PM EST in Lane
Stadium.

552
00:28:47,140 --> 00:28:49,860
Cannot happen.
Curtis, you asked about.

553
00:28:50,020 --> 00:28:53,140
I test also in there.
Let's talk about like the vibe

554
00:28:53,140 --> 00:28:56,540
test, because I think starting
hot this this year because we

555
00:28:56,540 --> 00:28:58,780
have a couple winnable games,
especially up front.

556
00:28:59,100 --> 00:29:03,430
If you can start the season 2
and O3 and O, maybe even dance

557
00:29:03,430 --> 00:29:07,190
four and oh like imagine what
that would do for the fan base,

558
00:29:07,190 --> 00:29:10,070
the feeling the vibes around
Blacksburg, the recruiting.

559
00:29:10,310 --> 00:29:14,350
Like it would be so important
for this team to get off to a

560
00:29:14,350 --> 00:29:16,750
hot start.
So that's something even if we

561
00:29:16,750 --> 00:29:19,550
drop two games in a row after
that, starting off three and oh

562
00:29:19,550 --> 00:29:21,030
would be true.
First of all, think about the

563
00:29:21,030 --> 00:29:23,630
vibe test on this.
You go four and oh like Dan's

564
00:29:23,630 --> 00:29:25,790
thinking and it comes to that
pit game.

565
00:29:26,190 --> 00:29:28,710
How many false starts is nor
Dozi's offensive line going to

566
00:29:28,710 --> 00:29:30,190
have that he likes to talk shit
about?

567
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,400
They aren't going to have a
false start.

568
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,240
Last time me and Mr. Siegler
went laying today that he

569
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:36,840
claimed that was going to
happen, they had three.

570
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,760
What about y'all kind of kind of
like what?

571
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,440
I really like what Pete said.
When he talks about, you know,

572
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,800
you get a hot start like that.
We talked about on our on our

573
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,760
podcast with With With Pride
when we had him on talking about

574
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,160
just the last game that we
played, that Liberty game, which

575
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:56,480
we're going to keep going back
to.

576
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,960
Hate to tell you we're going to
keep going back to it.

577
00:30:00,410 --> 00:30:03,290
That that that liberty game, no
matter what you think they are,

578
00:30:03,290 --> 00:30:06,130
no matter what people thought we
were supposed to beat them.

579
00:30:06,130 --> 00:30:07,610
We're not supposed to beat them.
I don't care.

580
00:30:08,010 --> 00:30:11,250
We've seen the team that had
been losing games and probably

581
00:30:11,250 --> 00:30:13,810
should have lost the game, that
fought and won a game.

582
00:30:14,250 --> 00:30:18,050
And then not only that, they
carried that momentum from that

583
00:30:18,050 --> 00:30:22,050
game to the offseason to what
we've been seeing in winter

584
00:30:22,050 --> 00:30:25,730
workouts, summer workouts.
Now fall camp is here.

585
00:30:26,100 --> 00:30:28,820
Like you've been seeing a
positive recruiting, you've been

586
00:30:28,820 --> 00:30:30,820
seeing positive momentum in the
program.

587
00:30:31,020 --> 00:30:34,780
If you get off to a a hot start,
a three and no start, a four and

588
00:30:34,780 --> 00:30:38,260
no start.
I mean what's the trajectory of

589
00:30:38,260 --> 00:30:42,140
that program next you know, but
if you get off to a O and two

590
00:30:42,140 --> 00:30:46,500
start, God forbid or a one and
three start, you know even a two

591
00:30:46,500 --> 00:30:48,700
and two start, it might get a
little you know, you got some

592
00:30:48,940 --> 00:30:51,020
some some some Bluebirds coming
around.

593
00:30:51,020 --> 00:30:54,180
So getting off to a hot start
right here, like Pete said, I

594
00:30:54,180 --> 00:30:56,780
think with just.
Turn it up a dodge.

595
00:30:57,700 --> 00:31:01,060
Yeah, to that point, we we now
have a young team.

596
00:31:01,100 --> 00:31:05,380
We no longer have like 7th, 8th
year Fuente COVID guys.

597
00:31:06,580 --> 00:31:09,460
Still got a couple around, but
mainly you know we're going to

598
00:31:09,460 --> 00:31:11,660
have some 2023 guys playing this
year, right?

599
00:31:11,940 --> 00:31:13,140
Especially with the red shirt
rule.

600
00:31:13,140 --> 00:31:15,700
Now you get four people or four
games, You get four games you

601
00:31:15,700 --> 00:31:20,100
can play without burning it.
Imagine, these guys already feel

602
00:31:20,100 --> 00:31:22,060
very confident.
The vibes are crazy in

603
00:31:22,060 --> 00:31:23,500
Blacksburg right now.
I felt it.

604
00:31:23,540 --> 00:31:24,740
I've seen it.
I've talked to them.

605
00:31:25,790 --> 00:31:28,110
Give them some wins under the
belt, a hot start, and they

606
00:31:28,110 --> 00:31:31,990
actually start to believe it.
Bro, It's hard to tell what

607
00:31:31,990 --> 00:31:33,510
happened.
You could talk seven or eight

608
00:31:33,510 --> 00:31:37,750
games, you know, just get, just
get to a bowl, Get us a bowl.

609
00:31:37,750 --> 00:31:40,910
Get us that extra game.
Recruits are going to stay.

610
00:31:40,910 --> 00:31:43,430
More recruits are going to come.
And then you just keep building.

611
00:31:43,790 --> 00:31:45,630
Elevate the ceiling or elevate
the floor.

612
00:31:45,630 --> 00:31:49,190
Elevate the ceiling, right?
And I'm with that and I want to

613
00:31:49,190 --> 00:31:51,310
piggyback on Pete's point with
the vibes like.

614
00:31:51,870 --> 00:31:54,150
If we can get out there and get
three and one of those first

615
00:31:54,150 --> 00:31:58,430
four, I feel like that would
really build the confidence of,

616
00:31:58,430 --> 00:32:01,310
as Dan just pointed out, a
younger team, but a more

617
00:32:01,310 --> 00:32:04,790
talented team than we've seen in
the last, you know, two to three

618
00:32:04,790 --> 00:32:06,470
years in terms of top to bottom
talent.

619
00:32:06,470 --> 00:32:10,750
I feel like the roster is
finally starting to get rebuilt

620
00:32:10,750 --> 00:32:12,910
in a way that makes sense.
I feel like that was probably

621
00:32:12,910 --> 00:32:16,990
the biggest weakness of the
Fuente era was roster management

622
00:32:17,030 --> 00:32:21,980
and roster building.
We recruited, we over recruited

623
00:32:21,980 --> 00:32:24,900
too many positions we didn't
backfill.

624
00:32:24,900 --> 00:32:27,820
We ran players off for one
reason or another.

625
00:32:28,420 --> 00:32:31,460
Wait, you don't need 10 running?
14 It was 14 one point 14.

626
00:32:31,460 --> 00:32:35,540
It was a running piece.
Oh my.

627
00:32:36,540 --> 00:32:39,180
God go.
OK, Grayson, real quick, let's

628
00:32:39,180 --> 00:32:41,780
get you on this, the vibes.
And then Brian's got one more to

629
00:32:41,780 --> 00:32:46,830
close this out here.
Yeah, I mean September's going

630
00:32:46,830 --> 00:32:48,990
to set the tone.
It's going to set the precedent

631
00:32:48,990 --> 00:32:51,830
for the rest of the season.
We got, we got a, you know, a

632
00:32:51,830 --> 00:32:57,630
decent ACC schedule this year.
But to to Pete's point, it's

633
00:32:58,470 --> 00:33:01,550
September is the temperature
that's that's going to gauge the

634
00:33:01,550 --> 00:33:06,780
entire rest of the season.
So we shall see BODU eat the

635
00:33:06,780 --> 00:33:08,580
shit out of them.
There we go, Yeah.

636
00:33:08,780 --> 00:33:11,180
We we got to go out there and
and make a statement that first

637
00:33:11,180 --> 00:33:13,700
game, because if you don't,
that's when you know we talk

638
00:33:13,700 --> 00:33:15,380
about vibes.
If you go out there and you're

639
00:33:15,380 --> 00:33:18,180
in a hell game with ODU.
Jesus Christ.

640
00:33:19,100 --> 00:33:20,900
That's not good vibes, All
right.

641
00:33:21,140 --> 00:33:25,300
So before we close out this
segment, there's lots of talk

642
00:33:25,300 --> 00:33:27,860
about Virginia Tech being back,
right?

643
00:33:28,660 --> 00:33:31,180
Fuga even said it at a CC media
day.

644
00:33:32,180 --> 00:33:35,420
I don't think this is the season
that we see that as kind of a a

645
00:33:35,500 --> 00:33:39,230
a factor.
But what do you expect to see

646
00:33:39,230 --> 00:33:43,430
this season that will show you
glimpses or signs that were on

647
00:33:43,430 --> 00:33:47,350
the right track to being back?
And I'll let I'll let Grayson

648
00:33:47,350 --> 00:33:49,230
leave this one off.
Sure.

649
00:33:49,750 --> 00:33:53,790
I want to see stark improvement
at the quarterback position and

650
00:33:53,790 --> 00:33:57,750
I want to see stark improvement
in the defensive performances as

651
00:33:57,750 --> 00:34:02,400
a collective.
Grant completed 196 passes on

652
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:07,680
332 attempts last year with a
59% completion rate and came in

653
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,639
with a 97th ranked QBR in the
country.

654
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,600
Respectfully, that has to
improve.

655
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,440
I also want to see that our
defenders are wrapping up,

656
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,679
tackling below the waist,
finishing plays and swarming to

657
00:34:22,679 --> 00:34:24,639
the football.
I want to see that our

658
00:34:24,639 --> 00:34:28,600
quarterback look, he looks past
his first read and make smart

659
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,130
decisions.
I want to see those elements

660
00:34:31,130 --> 00:34:36,730
contribute to us finishing and
finishing and winning football

661
00:34:36,730 --> 00:34:40,210
games.
Those factors to Fuga that will

662
00:34:40,210 --> 00:34:44,050
let me know that we are headed
in the in the right direction as

663
00:34:44,090 --> 00:34:49,730
a football program.
I would say discipline,

664
00:34:51,250 --> 00:34:54,929
especially from the offensive
line defensively.

665
00:34:54,929 --> 00:34:57,650
No offense to Keyshawn artist,
but last year when Dax wasn't on

666
00:34:57,650 --> 00:34:59,900
the field.
The defense was really lost.

667
00:34:59,900 --> 00:35:04,020
So I think that we're going to
see multiple leaders on defense

668
00:35:04,020 --> 00:35:06,660
this year, multiple voices that
can keep everybody crowd and

669
00:35:06,660 --> 00:35:11,460
focused on the goal, quarterback
play, don't turn the ball over,

670
00:35:12,020 --> 00:35:16,100
make smart decisions, receivers
separation.

671
00:35:16,100 --> 00:35:18,220
I think we'll see that.
I think we're going to see a

672
00:35:18,220 --> 00:35:23,540
crisper, more aggressive, more
focused, hokey team regardless

673
00:35:23,540 --> 00:35:25,700
of if the record shows it.
I think that.

674
00:35:26,470 --> 00:35:29,110
A couple of those games last
year that really came down to

675
00:35:29,470 --> 00:35:32,030
this player that play.
I think they're gonna finish a

676
00:35:32,030 --> 00:35:35,270
few of those differently this
year and I think that they're

677
00:35:35,270 --> 00:35:37,470
gonna look a lot different.
We're gonna be able to be proud

678
00:35:37,470 --> 00:35:40,390
of them regardless of the record
at the end of the year.

679
00:35:42,670 --> 00:35:44,110
Hey, Pete.
Yeah, I'll finish it off.

680
00:35:44,390 --> 00:35:47,430
Yeah, I need to see the
toughness come back.

681
00:35:47,670 --> 00:35:49,150
And I don't just mean
physically.

682
00:35:49,150 --> 00:35:52,210
I mean to be able to take a
punch in a game, whether it's a

683
00:35:52,290 --> 00:35:56,930
fourth down conversion or a
touchdown, A turnover, and then

684
00:35:56,930 --> 00:35:59,650
be able to bounce back and that
tally mentioned it with the

685
00:35:59,650 --> 00:36:02,130
Liberty game, people want to
knock the Liberty win.

686
00:36:02,610 --> 00:36:04,970
I was with friends that weekend.
Everyone thought we were losing

687
00:36:04,970 --> 00:36:07,730
that game and we battled and we
battled, we battled, overcame

688
00:36:07,730 --> 00:36:10,450
adversity, we won the game.
That's what I want to see.

689
00:36:10,450 --> 00:36:14,010
Overcoming adversity is
something that this team, you

690
00:36:14,010 --> 00:36:16,770
can go back several years and
it's something we haven't dealt

691
00:36:16,770 --> 00:36:19,230
with well in game.
So that's one thing.

692
00:36:19,230 --> 00:36:22,030
The toughness mentally and
physically and then defensively,

693
00:36:22,030 --> 00:36:25,830
I want to see aggression, some
more blitzing and turnovers.

694
00:36:25,830 --> 00:36:29,470
We have not been able to
generate the turnovers and so

695
00:36:29,470 --> 00:36:32,550
that's what lunch be, lunch pail
defense is all about, Fuga said.

696
00:36:32,550 --> 00:36:35,270
The lunch pail's back.
It's not back until we get some

697
00:36:35,270 --> 00:36:37,710
more turnovers going.
All right.

698
00:36:37,790 --> 00:36:40,750
I agree with that, Pete.
And before we close out this

699
00:36:40,750 --> 00:36:42,790
segment, this is just going to
be a yes or no.

700
00:36:42,790 --> 00:36:45,350
This is a Vibe check.
We've already talked about Vibe

701
00:36:45,350 --> 00:36:47,870
Check a lot here.
Bob Check.

702
00:36:48,030 --> 00:36:50,950
Is this Virginia Tech football
team making a bowl this year?

703
00:36:51,470 --> 00:36:54,070
Pete.
Yes, Dan.

704
00:36:54,590 --> 00:36:55,830
Yes.
Yes.

705
00:36:56,150 --> 00:36:59,230
Grayson, what you got?
Yes, I'm saying yes for

706
00:36:59,230 --> 00:37:05,830
everybody, for my sanity.
Yes.

707
00:37:06,110 --> 00:37:08,430
Well, I'll say, you know, just
to finish off with what you

708
00:37:08,590 --> 00:37:11,590
asked the question now, I mean,
Pete pretty much hit the nail on

709
00:37:11,590 --> 00:37:14,190
the head talking about the
toughness, talking about just

710
00:37:14,190 --> 00:37:15,860
seeing.
Virginia Tech.

711
00:37:15,860 --> 00:37:19,620
Getting back to Virginia Tech
and Virginia Tech is what I

712
00:37:19,660 --> 00:37:21,300
think about vintage Virginia
Tech.

713
00:37:21,300 --> 00:37:22,500
It's not.
And you know, everybody talks

714
00:37:22,500 --> 00:37:23,740
about the lunch pill to talk
about this.

715
00:37:24,020 --> 00:37:26,580
Like the game where Tyrod scored
in the corner.

716
00:37:26,580 --> 00:37:29,540
He put his hand behind the head.
Like, I want to see that

717
00:37:29,540 --> 00:37:31,460
Virginia Tech back, you know
what I'm saying?

718
00:37:31,460 --> 00:37:34,060
I want to see Virginia Tech get
that swag back.

719
00:37:34,340 --> 00:37:36,300
You know what I'm saying?
Have some fun on the field.

720
00:37:36,580 --> 00:37:38,540
D, haul, pick and run off.
Take it to the house.

721
00:37:39,100 --> 00:37:41,540
Hit him with a little shimmy.
Do something, you know what I'm

722
00:37:41,540 --> 00:37:44,140
saying?
We we ain't West Virginia.

723
00:37:44,420 --> 00:37:46,910
We ain't.
Fucking UVA like we Virginia

724
00:37:46,910 --> 00:37:50,390
Tech, Go out there, swag it out,
throw them orange jersey zone.

725
00:37:50,510 --> 00:37:54,590
Let's keep it.
Moving y'all by the way, when

726
00:37:54,590 --> 00:37:57,310
when when we were talking about
going to the game, Tally kept

727
00:37:57,310 --> 00:37:58,790
talking about Purdue, Purdue,
Purdue.

728
00:37:58,790 --> 00:38:00,710
And we agreed to it.
I look, it's orange effect.

729
00:38:00,710 --> 00:38:04,110
What a shock that has to gain.
He's pushing us to, but they

730
00:38:04,190 --> 00:38:06,150
really just keep the orange dust
out of it.

731
00:38:06,190 --> 00:38:07,910
But.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

732
00:38:07,910 --> 00:38:10,430
We don't need.
We don't need Smoke Gate Lord

733
00:38:10,430 --> 00:38:12,640
but.
I like what all y'all said, but

734
00:38:12,720 --> 00:38:14,440
Tally, you make a good point.
It's to Swagger.

735
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,720
It's DBU.
It is a lunch fail defense.

736
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,880
It's popping some quarterback
down and standing over him and

737
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,480
saying you ain't doing shit in
our house.

738
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,920
And when we go to Rutgers, when
we go to Rutgers, when we go to

739
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,000
Marshall Fuga, taking it out to
the center of the field, opening

740
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,640
it up, ripping out a massive
piece of turf and throwing it

741
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,760
back in like the old days.
Right, Right.

742
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,400
That's what we want.
Dan Grayson, Pete.

743
00:38:37,830 --> 00:38:41,070
Fellows, I really appreciate
y'all joining us tonight for the

744
00:38:41,070 --> 00:38:43,310
first segment here.
Check them out.

745
00:38:43,870 --> 00:38:46,910
Check Grayson out on Twitter.
Always some good content there.

746
00:38:46,950 --> 00:38:50,310
Check down out on Tales from the
Terror Dome where you just

747
00:38:50,310 --> 00:38:51,950
dropped an interview with
somebody, right?

748
00:38:52,950 --> 00:38:56,830
Yeah, Marcellus Barnes Jr.
Marcellus Barnes Jr. the recent

749
00:38:56,830 --> 00:38:59,510
commit from Tennessee, and PB.
You dropped one today too.

750
00:38:59,830 --> 00:39:02,070
Tell everybody who you got on
the program, man.

751
00:39:03,230 --> 00:39:04,830
Yeah, it was every day, should
be Saturday.

752
00:39:04,830 --> 00:39:08,950
Spencer Hall himself was kind
enough to spend just about 50

753
00:39:08,950 --> 00:39:11,670
minutes or an hour with me and
Robbie and it was a great

754
00:39:11,670 --> 00:39:13,350
interview.
We kind of went over everything.

755
00:39:13,350 --> 00:39:16,550
ACCY state of the program.
He had some good perspective on

756
00:39:16,550 --> 00:39:18,710
pride from a national scale.
So check it out.

757
00:39:18,710 --> 00:39:20,070
But yeah, it was.
It was a great interview.

758
00:39:20,070 --> 00:39:22,070
Well boys, again, we appreciate
Y'all joining us.

759
00:39:22,070 --> 00:39:24,470
Hopefully we run into all of
Y'all at some point in

760
00:39:24,470 --> 00:39:27,670
Blacksburg this season.
And with that being said.

761
00:39:28,190 --> 00:39:31,270
We are going to take a quick
pause, not only from our digital

762
00:39:31,270 --> 00:39:34,270
partner, but our primary
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763
00:39:34,270 --> 00:39:37,710
Blacksburg.
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764
00:39:37,710 --> 00:39:39,630
money and I can take a lot
better care of you.

765
00:39:40,190 --> 00:39:43,030
That's pretty much it.
My name is Jeremy Counts and I'm

766
00:39:43,030 --> 00:39:45,270
a pharmacist.
I want to operate Main Street

767
00:39:45,270 --> 00:39:46,750
Pharmacy here in downtown
Blacksburg.

768
00:39:47,110 --> 00:39:48,990
My brother's A pharmacist.
I'm a pharmacist.

769
00:39:48,990 --> 00:39:50,710
My uncle's A pharmacist.
My dad's a pharmacist.

770
00:39:50,950 --> 00:39:53,910
I remember he would give me
M&M's to count in little pill

771
00:39:53,910 --> 00:39:55,750
counters.
This is something I've always

772
00:39:55,750 --> 00:39:59,660
done and I'm just lucky that.
What I know so well is something

773
00:39:59,660 --> 00:40:02,140
that I can do and feel good
about it and get back to people.

774
00:40:02,900 --> 00:40:04,620
Pharmacies are your frontline
defense.

775
00:40:04,820 --> 00:40:07,620
Pharmacy's job is to make sure
you're getting optimal care.

776
00:40:07,780 --> 00:40:11,340
For the lowest price possible.
Also, we take the pressure off

777
00:40:11,420 --> 00:40:13,460
of emergency rooms.
I'll tell people immediately

778
00:40:13,460 --> 00:40:15,220
when they need to go to the
doctor, or I'll tell them if

779
00:40:15,220 --> 00:40:16,860
they just need a cream over the
counter.

780
00:40:17,180 --> 00:40:19,860
If there's something that isn't
commercially available, if it's

781
00:40:19,860 --> 00:40:22,540
something that's not available
in a certain strength or a

782
00:40:22,540 --> 00:40:25,260
certain form or anything like
that, we'll make it tailor made

783
00:40:25,260 --> 00:40:27,020
medications.
Some of those options save

784
00:40:27,020 --> 00:40:28,900
people a lot of money.
What motivates me?

785
00:40:28,940 --> 00:40:31,740
I get to take care of people in
limit Blacksburg, I thought.

786
00:40:31,740 --> 00:40:36,060
Neat.
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787
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Now back to the episode.
And we are back.

794
00:40:58,900 --> 00:41:00,180
What?
Man, that was a fun segment with

795
00:41:00,180 --> 00:41:01,260
those guys.
Boys.

796
00:41:01,260 --> 00:41:03,580
That was a fun segment.
Tally, you won't mute, man.

797
00:41:03,580 --> 00:41:06,720
What are you laughing at?
That's am I off from you yet?

798
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,640
You all you don't do.
Hey man, I hope everybody's

799
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,440
without a commercial with
Jeremy.

800
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,480
I was a commercial with our
response.

801
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,520
Jeremy said if we don't got the
medicine, we'll make it.

802
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:22,200
He making creams, man.
Jeremy, keep it up man.

803
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:23,000
I'll be up there.
We're.

804
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:24,760
Going to be up there soon, we're
going to be.

805
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,920
Up there September What is
September the 9th for the Purdue

806
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:28,520
game?
September 9th baby.

807
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,840
Hey, we down Sir.
Well, you know, by the way,

808
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,360
y'all y'all just go in.
Just swallow it.

809
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,120
He's gonna make us take Jamison
shots.

810
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,240
At.
Least at least three.

811
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,960
At least three.
Long as you get me, long as I

812
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:42,280
get pickle juice behind it, I'm
good.

813
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,400
There you go.
Well, again, I know, I know.

814
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,960
He likes to stay away from the
Tots rail though, so you might

815
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:49,680
be off the hook there.
You might be off the hook there.

816
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,600
Well, that was again fun.
Again, appreciate Dan, Pete and

817
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,930
Grayson for joining us.
But now we got another segment

818
00:41:56,930 --> 00:42:00,090
and we're going to bring in some
more of the Hokies finest out

819
00:42:00,090 --> 00:42:02,450
there, Brian, who we got up
first here.

820
00:42:03,370 --> 00:42:06,250
Yeah, this next panelist needs
no introduction, but I'll give

821
00:42:06,250 --> 00:42:09,330
him one anyways.
So he's the managing editor and

822
00:42:09,330 --> 00:42:11,930
holds down one of the three
chairs on the Tech Sideline

823
00:42:11,930 --> 00:42:15,930
podcast.
Give it up for the real David

824
00:42:15,930 --> 00:42:20,530
Cunningham.
How's it going, guys?

825
00:42:20,610 --> 00:42:22,050
Great to see you.
How you doing?

826
00:42:22,050 --> 00:42:25,800
What's up?
I'm doing well.

827
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,080
It's great to be with you guys.
I really enjoyed listening to

828
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,160
that last segment.
Those guys have really great

829
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,840
perspective and I'm excited to
chop it up.

830
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,480
With y'all, glad to have you.
Always a good time when you come

831
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,800
on here with us.
Big to be back on the on the

832
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,800
panel this year.
This is the second time around

833
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,440
in the panel chair.
Little bit different format this

834
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,110
time, but it should be a blast.
Yup.

835
00:42:49,110 --> 00:42:51,470
Glad to have David on, man.
He's got the orange on.

836
00:42:51,470 --> 00:42:52,870
He ready to go?
He's looking good.

837
00:42:53,270 --> 00:42:57,190
Combed his hair, good for us.
He ready my my tech sideline.

838
00:42:57,270 --> 00:42:58,990
Yeah, man, shot the merch out,
man.

839
00:42:58,990 --> 00:43:02,070
Get it?
That's what I was talking about.

840
00:43:02,070 --> 00:43:03,870
Tech sideline.
If y'all ain't going to check

841
00:43:03,870 --> 00:43:05,550
out tech sideline, y'all go
check it out.

842
00:43:05,870 --> 00:43:08,070
By the way, where can you, where
can you buy that?

843
00:43:08,070 --> 00:43:10,630
Because Tally will purchase one
because it's orange and it says

844
00:43:10,630 --> 00:43:11,790
tech.
On as long as you got a full

845
00:43:11,790 --> 00:43:16,220
edge Sally, if you send me, if
you send me your size, I will

846
00:43:16,220 --> 00:43:18,060
personally go to the office and
pick one up.

847
00:43:18,420 --> 00:43:21,140
I'm doing it.
I'm doing it before you get off

848
00:43:21,140 --> 00:43:22,740
here today.
I definitely will be sending it

849
00:43:22,740 --> 00:43:24,780
to you.
It's a 4X but I'm sending it to

850
00:43:24,780 --> 00:43:27,100
you and then next, well, I'll do
my best.

851
00:43:27,780 --> 00:43:30,180
Hey, you got to you might have
to piece two of them together.

852
00:43:30,540 --> 00:43:32,700
Just take 22 X's and put the
mugs together.

853
00:43:32,700 --> 00:43:35,100
We'll be we'll make it work.
You know what I'm saying?

854
00:43:35,340 --> 00:43:37,220
Take on one side, sideline on
the other.

855
00:43:37,220 --> 00:43:39,780
Whatever we got to do.
All right, next on the panel,

856
00:43:39,780 --> 00:43:41,340
man.
He don't need no introduction.

857
00:43:41,700 --> 00:43:43,140
Y'all, go ahead and bring him
in, man.

858
00:43:43,140 --> 00:43:47,220
He's 1/4 of our Boundary Corner
podcast host Shelton.

859
00:43:47,220 --> 00:43:50,420
He's our analytics guy.
Anytime I don't know nothing

860
00:43:50,660 --> 00:43:53,660
about what we talking about, I'd
look at Shelton and guess what?

861
00:43:53,660 --> 00:43:56,380
He's got the stat for me.
Shelton Moss.

862
00:43:56,380 --> 00:43:57,820
Bring him in for me.
Where you at?

863
00:43:57,820 --> 00:43:59,500
What's up guys?
How's it going?

864
00:43:59,980 --> 00:44:01,380
There he is.
There he is.

865
00:44:01,380 --> 00:44:02,820
What's going on with Shelton?
How we living?

866
00:44:03,380 --> 00:44:06,340
I'm sure I'm just in a hotel
ballroom ready to get going.

867
00:44:06,340 --> 00:44:09,100
I'm the I'm the newest resident
in Charlotte, NC.

868
00:44:09,100 --> 00:44:13,070
I'm pretty excited about that
and have to be happy on it.

869
00:44:13,190 --> 00:44:15,230
Have a good session.
Well, congratulations.

870
00:44:15,630 --> 00:44:18,030
Big Congrats on that, man.
We know that was a big step for

871
00:44:18,030 --> 00:44:20,710
you last week.
You were, you were, you were

872
00:44:20,710 --> 00:44:23,150
sitting here in Richmond and
you've made your way down to

873
00:44:23,310 --> 00:44:25,190
Charlotte.
Great for you, man.

874
00:44:25,510 --> 00:44:27,390
All right.
Last man.

875
00:44:27,390 --> 00:44:30,350
He has been on with us numerous
times.

876
00:44:31,030 --> 00:44:33,950
He has a lot of titles and I
mean a lot of titles.

877
00:44:33,950 --> 00:44:35,710
He is the news writer for SI
now.

878
00:44:36,070 --> 00:44:40,100
He is the BC Podcast ACC host.
He hosts the Hungy Hokey

879
00:44:40,100 --> 00:44:44,380
Hangover, the hoop spot for Sons
of Saturday Vt Also check out

880
00:44:44,380 --> 00:44:48,700
his new page CFB Films, which
got me reminiscing numerous

881
00:44:48,700 --> 00:44:53,980
times about things.
And also I think the last time

882
00:44:53,980 --> 00:44:55,540
he was on here he was not a
father yet.

883
00:44:55,540 --> 00:44:59,620
So he's a new father.
Not as new as he was a few

884
00:44:59,620 --> 00:45:02,340
months ago, but welcome back
Mike McDaniel, Mikey.

885
00:45:03,340 --> 00:45:06,010
How you been, man?
Quite the introduction guys.

886
00:45:06,010 --> 00:45:08,490
I appreciate it.
Well, you only do.

887
00:45:08,490 --> 00:45:11,370
Everything in Hokie Nation.
I always say when Mike comes on

888
00:45:11,370 --> 00:45:13,530
with us, he is the busiest man
in Hokie Nation.

889
00:45:13,530 --> 00:45:16,170
He is.
I I keep myself busy, that's for

890
00:45:16,170 --> 00:45:19,210
sure.
How's the baby man?

891
00:45:19,210 --> 00:45:21,210
Last time me and you texted
probably three or four months

892
00:45:21,210 --> 00:45:22,610
ago was keeping you up.
Is it better?

893
00:45:22,610 --> 00:45:30,370
Now sleeping now, Yes.
Love to hear that once Once they

894
00:45:30,410 --> 00:45:33,570
get to that sleeping mode it
your dad duty gets a whole lot

895
00:45:33,570 --> 00:45:36,200
easier.
Yeah, he's he's a good kid.

896
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,160
We love him.
He's having smear infection

897
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,520
issues, but he's doing a lot
better now, so hold.

898
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,080
On hold on, Mike said.
Mike said he's a good kid.

899
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:45,720
We love him.
If he was a bad kid, you

900
00:45:45,720 --> 00:45:48,440
wouldn't love him.
Still love him?

901
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:49,800
Would.
Still love him?

902
00:45:51,240 --> 00:45:52,240
That's fair.
That's fair.

903
00:45:52,240 --> 00:45:55,280
I love that.
All right, so I'm gonna leave

904
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,120
this one off.
I'm gonna pitch this one to

905
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:01,040
David Cunningham first.
You've had some chances to get a

906
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:05,070
close up view of fall camp.
We got Jesse Hanson's medical

907
00:46:05,070 --> 00:46:07,990
retirement that came out kind of
the beginning of the of the camp

908
00:46:07,990 --> 00:46:10,470
there, throwing a little
intrigue into the potential

909
00:46:10,470 --> 00:46:13,110
starting five for the for the
Hokies offensive line.

910
00:46:14,790 --> 00:46:17,710
What we want to know who has
been the most consistent first

911
00:46:17,710 --> 00:46:20,870
team offensive line unit that
you and and others at Tech

912
00:46:20,870 --> 00:46:23,350
Sideline have have gotten a
witness at practice so far?

913
00:46:25,190 --> 00:46:28,790
Yeah, I think it really hasn't
changed since since fall camp

914
00:46:28,790 --> 00:46:31,600
started.
We're now entering the, what,

915
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:35,960
third week of fall camp?
Tex had probably 10 to 12

916
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:40,480
practices by now, maybe probably
around 10:00, and it's pretty

917
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:44,840
much stayed the same again.
It's a very young group, so that

918
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,320
shouldn't be a big surprise.
Xavier Chaplain's been at left

919
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:52,440
tackle, Braylon Moore's been at
left guard, Kaden Moore's at

920
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,920
center.
Bob Schick has been the guy at

921
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,680
right guard so far, and Parker
Clemens is at right tackle.

922
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,910
And Clayton Frey, I feel like
it's kind of a sixth guy right

923
00:47:00,910 --> 00:47:03,670
now.
He's been working at at right

924
00:47:03,670 --> 00:47:05,390
guard, but he's also been
working a little bit of left

925
00:47:05,390 --> 00:47:08,430
guard with that second team.
I think the biggest surprise

926
00:47:08,430 --> 00:47:12,790
recently has been Brody Meadows,
who was working at right guard

927
00:47:12,790 --> 00:47:14,870
with the second team after
working at tackle.

928
00:47:14,870 --> 00:47:17,270
He's kind of a guy that that's
versatile according to Brent

929
00:47:17,270 --> 00:47:20,470
Pride.
Besides that, again, it's a

930
00:47:20,470 --> 00:47:23,630
really, really young group life.
Gamma True Freshman was in there

931
00:47:23,630 --> 00:47:28,320
at left tackle with the twos the
other day, so it's going to be a

932
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:29,760
lot of mixing and matching, I
think.

933
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,760
But but Chris Coleman, my
colleague at Tex Island, just

934
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:36,680
wrote a really great preview
when he talked with some guys at

935
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:40,760
media day.
You get the sense that this

936
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:44,240
offensive line blocking scheme
is just easier to pick up from

937
00:47:44,240 --> 00:47:48,000
Ron Cook.
It's it's less detail oriented,

938
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,740
more just straightforward.
You know, let's do our job.

939
00:47:52,060 --> 00:47:54,540
And I don't know if that's
necessarily a shot at Joe

940
00:47:54,540 --> 00:47:56,740
Rudolph, but I think they just
have two different ways of

941
00:47:56,740 --> 00:47:59,180
looking at it.
And Ron Crook has done a lot of

942
00:47:59,180 --> 00:48:00,940
great things, a lot of the great
programs.

943
00:48:01,380 --> 00:48:05,540
I'm very curious to see when we
come out, when when when I'm

944
00:48:05,540 --> 00:48:08,380
sitting there in the press box
on September 2nd watching

945
00:48:08,380 --> 00:48:11,540
Virginia Tech, Old Dominion, how
the offensive line looks because

946
00:48:11,540 --> 00:48:14,990
it looked okay in the spring
game even without Xavier

947
00:48:14,990 --> 00:48:17,790
chaplain in there.
But again that was against

948
00:48:17,790 --> 00:48:20,510
Tech's second string defense for
the most part.

949
00:48:20,510 --> 00:48:26,110
So the Okies are going to have
to to have a a big year on the

950
00:48:26,110 --> 00:48:29,950
offensive line for for there to
be much success at all.

951
00:48:29,950 --> 00:48:32,350
And I think Mike and Shelton
were both agree with me.

952
00:48:32,350 --> 00:48:33,910
That's the biggest question
right now.

953
00:48:34,750 --> 00:48:37,270
Do you get a sense that Freddy's
pushing Bob Chick for that right

954
00:48:37,270 --> 00:48:39,270
guard spot, or is it more like
he's going to be?

955
00:48:39,620 --> 00:48:42,460
Kind of that swing interior guy,
that kind of first interior

956
00:48:42,460 --> 00:48:44,140
offensive lineman off the bench
for us this year.

957
00:48:45,340 --> 00:48:48,460
I think it's too early to tell
to be honest, Sir, at least

958
00:48:49,220 --> 00:48:51,980
today's Tuesday.
We get to talk to Brent Pride

959
00:48:51,980 --> 00:48:56,260
tomorrow and Wednesday.
So that like the last couple

960
00:48:56,260 --> 00:48:58,740
times it's.
I feel like it's been too early

961
00:48:58,740 --> 00:49:02,940
to tell.
And I think part of it is phrase

962
00:49:02,940 --> 00:49:05,980
coming from the FCS level.
Not that it's a huge jump, but

963
00:49:05,980 --> 00:49:10,360
it is a little bit of a change
and he has to kind of integrate

964
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,040
himself when all of these other
guys have kind of been in the

965
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,000
program.
So I think it's it might take

966
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,960
him a little bit longer to to
adjust than even some of the

967
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:22,520
freshmen, but I do think it's
something to keep an eye on.

968
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,360
I think that's my kind of
biggest question down the

969
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:30,360
stretch as we get closer to
September 2nd is, is this

970
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,880
offensive line kind of set in
stone or are the young guys are

971
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:39,800
the Brody Meadows, the Clayton
Freddy's, are those guys pushing

972
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,360
and and I do think I think Bob
Shook has improved.

973
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:46,840
Crook was pretty high on him.
Brent Prize as mentioned his

974
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:50,280
improvement.
I'm very interested to see when

975
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,800
that team, you know that group
rolls out on September 2nd

976
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:54,400
again.
So do you what it looks like and

977
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,440
how they hold up?
Yeah, definitely.

978
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,880
Looking at, you know, kind of
last year what we had, what we

979
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:03,440
did, what we didn't do, things
like that, you know, was always.

980
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,800
Frustrating to say the least.
So to hear you talk about, you

981
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,120
know, people pushing for time,
the offensive line being better

982
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,880
is always a good thing.
We'll pivot a little bit to to

983
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,880
Shelton as well.
Shelton, we talked to you a lot

984
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,200
of times about the, you know,
various metrics that may have

985
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:24,360
hurt the Hokies last year.
Some they could control or

986
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,240
couldn't control a little bit
more than others.

987
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:31,880
Give us 2 matrices, 2 matrix on
offense and one on defense.

988
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,440
That the Hokies must improve on
this year to put themselves in

989
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,640
bold contention.
Yeah.

990
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,000
So it's definitely want to think
of the offensive metrics because

991
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,720
there's so many to choose from.
But the first one I'll start

992
00:50:42,720 --> 00:50:46,600
with was passing success rate.
So success rate is basically

993
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:50,240
garbage gain based on down.
It's based on measures how how

994
00:50:50,240 --> 00:50:51,760
much double the stick so to
speak.

995
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:55,280
So last year Tech finished 118th
nationally in passing.

996
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,000
Success rate for that was
because of Wells.

997
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:01,810
Also because their viewers
cannot separate and that was

998
00:51:01,850 --> 00:51:06,410
evident in Tech's passing trees.
So they very rarely threw down

999
00:51:06,410 --> 00:51:09,410
the field with a 10 to 19 yard
range, 20 plus yards.

1000
00:51:09,410 --> 00:51:11,810
They didn't like take those deep
shots except for occasionally

1001
00:51:11,810 --> 00:51:15,170
one that killed Smith and Navy
and also because of the lack of

1002
00:51:15,170 --> 00:51:18,450
the running game that Tech had.
Teams could just rush for and

1003
00:51:18,530 --> 00:51:20,370
and drop 8 and put a lot of same
coverage.

1004
00:51:20,730 --> 00:51:23,370
So Tech was in a lot more
obvious passing downs and we

1005
00:51:23,370 --> 00:51:24,650
were in a more obvious passing
down.

1006
00:51:24,690 --> 00:51:28,690
Obviously the play pawns can be
more, so they need more

1007
00:51:28,690 --> 00:51:30,330
successful plays in the pass
game obviously.

1008
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:32,760
And then the second set for the
offense is SAC rate.

1009
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,160
I had Tech finishing at 108th
last year in SAC rate.

1010
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,560
Again part of the function of
how many passing downs they had,

1011
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,800
but also communication between,
you know the offensive line and

1012
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:47,480
quarterback was spotty at times.
So then the last one you

1013
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,960
mentioned were defense.
The one thing I noticed, I think

1014
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,760
they need to do a better job of
limiting the explosive brush in

1015
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,320
place.
So I have a I have a metric I

1016
00:51:56,360 --> 00:52:00,380
made which basically looks at
when when an opposing, when an

1017
00:52:00,900 --> 00:52:03,660
offense has a successful play,
how successful is it?

1018
00:52:03,980 --> 00:52:08,420
So according my metric tech was
103rd and explosive weapon plays

1019
00:52:08,420 --> 00:52:11,020
allowed.
So they were good most of the

1020
00:52:11,020 --> 00:52:13,820
time in terms of preventing
successful plays.

1021
00:52:14,100 --> 00:52:17,180
When they got burned, they got
burned really bad and I think a

1022
00:52:17,180 --> 00:52:18,940
lot of that gets back to one
better play.

1023
00:52:18,940 --> 00:52:22,020
I know Keisha artists and Jane
McDonald plan of struggled last

1024
00:52:22,020 --> 00:52:25,580
year but the good news is the
views of line should be better.

1025
00:52:25,980 --> 00:52:29,250
You've got returners and
Kendrickson Pollard Wilfred

1026
00:52:29,250 --> 00:52:33,730
Penne and at the safe position
Sir people's count the Jenkins

1027
00:52:34,250 --> 00:52:37,530
and then linebackers Allen
Tisdale and and Kyle Lawson.

1028
00:52:37,770 --> 00:52:40,490
I think you know part of the
part of the reason for you know

1029
00:52:40,490 --> 00:52:42,530
launching me close run place
obviously was the linebacker

1030
00:52:42,530 --> 00:52:44,130
fits.
If you get, if you get better

1031
00:52:44,130 --> 00:52:45,850
linebacker play and see more
discipline, you're going to

1032
00:52:45,850 --> 00:52:47,410
limit those, those big Russian
place.

1033
00:52:47,770 --> 00:52:49,730
Yeah.
And and you said a couple things

1034
00:52:49,730 --> 00:52:50,850
there.
First of all, that explosive

1035
00:52:50,850 --> 00:52:53,290
rush plays, I think, if not
everybody in this panel went

1036
00:52:53,290 --> 00:52:57,210
back to Pitt.
Him breaking that off about that

1037
00:52:57,210 --> 00:52:59,690
explosive plays that immediately
maybe go back to that game and

1038
00:52:59,690 --> 00:53:02,330
all the big plays because the
big plays won them that game.

1039
00:53:02,930 --> 00:53:05,650
We were competitive.
The big plays from Izzy won them

1040
00:53:05,650 --> 00:53:06,770
that game.
But some else.

1041
00:53:06,770 --> 00:53:08,890
I'm going to go back to what
David said into what you're

1042
00:53:08,890 --> 00:53:12,250
saying about that SAC rate.
Brent Pratt has been preaching

1043
00:53:12,250 --> 00:53:15,250
competition competition,
competition, right.

1044
00:53:15,650 --> 00:53:19,890
Compete when you, David when you
just say Bob chicks getting

1045
00:53:19,890 --> 00:53:21,610
better.
Brody Meadows is now being

1046
00:53:21,610 --> 00:53:23,290
moved.
Lake Canim is improving.

1047
00:53:23,950 --> 00:53:27,030
It feels like and then the thing
we've heard about crook system,

1048
00:53:27,030 --> 00:53:29,230
it's easier to understand is not
as difficult.

1049
00:53:29,590 --> 00:53:31,590
I think you're right with that
SAC rate.

1050
00:53:31,790 --> 00:53:34,270
The first one, I think that's
going to be tough whether it's

1051
00:53:34,270 --> 00:53:39,230
Wells or it's drones to see if
we can do drastic improvement in

1052
00:53:39,230 --> 00:53:41,150
10 to 19.
But I think we can at least stop

1053
00:53:41,150 --> 00:53:45,030
the SAC rate and definitely with
more athletic linebackers.

1054
00:53:45,270 --> 00:53:48,790
Yet we need our run fits, but
sometimes just getting faster to

1055
00:53:48,790 --> 00:53:52,890
the whole will screw things up.
These guys to my left and right

1056
00:53:53,010 --> 00:53:54,770
played there.
They can tell you from being on

1057
00:53:54,770 --> 00:53:57,730
the line and being a tight end.
Sometimes just linebackers

1058
00:53:57,730 --> 00:54:00,410
getting there too quick will
screw up the blocking

1059
00:54:00,410 --> 00:54:03,570
assignments.
Right now.

1060
00:54:03,650 --> 00:54:06,370
Now I'm going to pivot here and
let's talk to Mike because we

1061
00:54:06,370 --> 00:54:08,690
ain't had him on them forever
and I'm glad to have him back.

1062
00:54:09,170 --> 00:54:12,090
Mike, you have been notating all
over Twitter about all the

1063
00:54:12,090 --> 00:54:14,570
improvement that the hoaxes have
made in the Portal this

1064
00:54:14,570 --> 00:54:17,770
offseason, particularly on the
offensive side of the ball.

1065
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:22,160
How important do you think it is
that this group of portal

1066
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:25,280
pickups, everybody?
I'm just the offense, but

1067
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:30,320
everybody in general has success
on the field in 2023 for Coach

1068
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:33,960
Pride to continue to make it an
attractive spot for the highly.

1069
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:38,240
Ranked transfers.
The biggest story on offense is

1070
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:42,880
the quarterback position, right?
Like, that's the question about

1071
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:46,000
the offseason and how is that
position going to improve?

1072
00:54:47,210 --> 00:54:49,410
Let's go through the transfers
just in general.

1073
00:54:49,890 --> 00:54:53,370
The Quan Felton, right?
Jalen, Wayne, Ally Jennings,

1074
00:54:53,370 --> 00:54:55,410
BAE, Shell 2.
And that's before you even get

1075
00:54:55,410 --> 00:54:57,130
to the quarterback position,
right?

1076
00:54:57,130 --> 00:54:59,330
That's all around whoever the
quarterback's going to be.

1077
00:55:00,170 --> 00:55:03,730
I think what's really important
about the transfers that came in

1078
00:55:03,770 --> 00:55:07,410
to the program for Virginia Tech
is that no matter who the

1079
00:55:07,410 --> 00:55:11,610
quarterback is going to be, the
position groups on offense

1080
00:55:11,690 --> 00:55:15,430
around whoever it is.
Is going to be much better than

1081
00:55:15,430 --> 00:55:17,950
last year.
The the floor has been raised

1082
00:55:17,950 --> 00:55:21,550
right.
The quarterbacks can only be so

1083
00:55:21,550 --> 00:55:24,230
bad in comparison to last year,
right?

1084
00:55:24,230 --> 00:55:28,470
I I think everybody expects a
step forward from if it's Grant

1085
00:55:28,470 --> 00:55:30,190
Wells, they expect to step
forward.

1086
00:55:30,230 --> 00:55:34,350
I think that's fair just because
the skill talent around him is.

1087
00:55:34,470 --> 00:55:37,150
It's just night and day this
year compared to what it was

1088
00:55:37,150 --> 00:55:41,350
last year.
I think with Wells the thing we

1089
00:55:41,350 --> 00:55:46,960
have to caution is that.
We're not totally sure what his

1090
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,480
floor is at Virginia Tech,
right?

1091
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,760
We know what his floor was at
Marshall.

1092
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:57,880
I hope to God his floor was what
we saw last year, considering

1093
00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:59,360
the skill position.
Town around.

1094
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:03,200
Him on the flip side, you know
what could his ceiling be,

1095
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,760
right?
It's the ACC.

1096
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,080
He's going up against tougher
competition.

1097
00:56:08,770 --> 00:56:11,850
I'm not sure we're necessarily
going to see the Marshall

1098
00:56:11,850 --> 00:56:14,970
version of Grant Wells that was
really good at times, right?

1099
00:56:14,970 --> 00:56:17,850
I'm not sure we're ever going to
see like that peak for a

1100
00:56:17,850 --> 00:56:22,410
consistent period of time.
But if we get OK quarterback

1101
00:56:22,410 --> 00:56:27,410
play out of Wells, you know,
this offense just needs to be

1102
00:56:27,410 --> 00:56:30,530
like in the 70s or 80s
nationally.

1103
00:56:30,610 --> 00:56:34,010
That would be a substantial step
forward in total offense, right?

1104
00:56:35,690 --> 00:56:38,290
Back to the question just in
general about the transfers,

1105
00:56:38,290 --> 00:56:43,650
like it's important for Pride, I
think just to kind of establish

1106
00:56:43,650 --> 00:56:46,330
a culture, have transfers that
hit because the portal is just

1107
00:56:46,330 --> 00:56:48,370
such an important part of
college football Now you got to

1108
00:56:48,370 --> 00:56:51,490
hit on your on your recruits,
right, the high school players

1109
00:56:51,490 --> 00:56:53,850
coming in, but you also have to
hit on some of the transfer

1110
00:56:53,850 --> 00:56:55,570
portal guys that impact
positions.

1111
00:56:55,970 --> 00:56:58,730
The fact that tech's got so many
of them at the skill positions I

1112
00:56:58,730 --> 00:57:01,610
think makes it all the more
important that at least a few of

1113
00:57:01,610 --> 00:57:03,290
these guys hit and have a big
year.

1114
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:05,760
Ally Jennings, I think it's
going to be really good because

1115
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:07,960
he has an established track
record of being really good.

1116
00:57:08,240 --> 00:57:10,000
I think the other guys will be
good too.

1117
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:13,680
But the spotlights on Jennings,
like Tech, was lacking a true #1

1118
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,280
receiver last year.
Kayla Smith's a good player.

1119
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:20,760
He's not a #1 receiver in the
ACCI think we can all agree, and

1120
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:22,960
that's not not to take away from
anything he did.

1121
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:26,520
He was very reliable for Tech
last year, but the ceiling's

1122
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:28,800
been raised on offense just
because of the skilled guys that

1123
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:31,040
were brought in around whoever
the quarterback is.

1124
00:57:31,620 --> 00:57:33,740
And if Kyron Drones is a
contributor or quarterback,

1125
00:57:33,740 --> 00:57:35,740
right, it let's say things go
kind of sideways.

1126
00:57:35,740 --> 00:57:37,180
Grant Wells.
You know, maybe it doesn't win

1127
00:57:37,180 --> 00:57:38,940
the starting quarterback job.
Maybe it's going to be Kyron

1128
00:57:38,940 --> 00:57:41,660
drones.
Like, what's drones going to

1129
00:57:41,660 --> 00:57:45,180
look like as an impact transfer?
That could just make this whole

1130
00:57:45,180 --> 00:57:46,980
thing all the more important,
right?

1131
00:57:47,100 --> 00:57:50,820
That, you know, prize not only
hitting on receivers and running

1132
00:57:50,820 --> 00:57:52,940
backs in these deeper skill
positions where you can rotate

1133
00:57:52,940 --> 00:57:55,420
guys in on a regular basis, but
now he's hitting on transfer

1134
00:57:55,420 --> 00:57:57,730
portal quarterbacks too.
I think that would send a

1135
00:57:57,730 --> 00:58:00,490
really, really good message
going not only throughout this

1136
00:58:00,490 --> 00:58:02,050
season but year three and
beyond.

1137
00:58:06,050 --> 00:58:09,130
Yeah, I think you're right.
I think the big thing with with

1138
00:58:09,130 --> 00:58:12,650
attracting talent, you know
we've, you know this offseason

1139
00:58:12,650 --> 00:58:17,010
it's been great and and probably
selling a vision but at some

1140
00:58:17,010 --> 00:58:19,810
point we got to see some of the
vision start to come together if

1141
00:58:19,810 --> 00:58:22,890
we want to continue pulling in
those highly ranked transfers,

1142
00:58:22,890 --> 00:58:26,330
those guys that we need to fill
some of the holes we had.

1143
00:58:26,790 --> 00:58:29,630
From you know a roster
management situation that kind

1144
00:58:29,630 --> 00:58:32,270
of got a little sideways towards
the end of the Fuente era,

1145
00:58:32,270 --> 00:58:34,110
right.
So you know I think that's

1146
00:58:34,110 --> 00:58:36,630
important as we kind of move
forward.

1147
00:58:37,270 --> 00:58:40,230
So we've kind of hit that,
that's the individual questions.

1148
00:58:40,230 --> 00:58:41,590
We know we we've hit those with
you.

1149
00:58:41,590 --> 00:58:45,710
We want to pivot over to some,
some folks from the the listers

1150
00:58:45,710 --> 00:58:48,790
here.
We're going to start with this

1151
00:58:48,790 --> 00:58:50,670
one from our good buddy Jason
Long.

1152
00:58:50,670 --> 00:58:53,070
He actually does the music for
the program here.

1153
00:58:53,150 --> 00:58:56,230
Our music man's got a question.
Let's throw it out there.

1154
00:58:56,710 --> 00:58:59,830
Let's pretend Virginia was cool
with betting on in state teams.

1155
00:58:59,830 --> 00:59:02,670
What are some Virginia Tech
football prop bets Y'all could

1156
00:59:02,670 --> 00:59:06,310
get behind?
As Mike chuckles.

1157
00:59:06,710 --> 00:59:09,110
Mike.
Go ahead, Mike is the last one

1158
00:59:09,110 --> 00:59:09,710
let's.
Go for it.

1159
00:59:09,710 --> 00:59:15,550
Let's go for it.
I don't sports bet do I done

1160
00:59:15,630 --> 00:59:18,190
that before.
I'm only the guy who puts the

1161
00:59:18,190 --> 00:59:22,750
pics out on Twitter every week.
Virginia Tech specific prop

1162
00:59:22,750 --> 00:59:25,910
bets.
It's tough to make him out to to

1163
00:59:25,990 --> 00:59:32,190
make them up on the fly.
I think one would be in terms of

1164
00:59:32,190 --> 00:59:35,030
games that starting quarterbacks
play, right?

1165
00:59:35,030 --> 00:59:39,070
So like if you can get Grant
Wells at like in over under 5

1166
00:59:39,070 --> 00:59:41,990
1/2 in terms of games he starts,
I think that could be a very

1167
00:59:41,990 --> 00:59:44,590
attractive one.
There we go.

1168
00:59:45,230 --> 00:59:49,870
I think a grant wells with like.
A2 to 1 touchdown interception

1169
00:59:49,870 --> 00:59:52,510
ratio would be a good one like
what can what kind of odds can

1170
00:59:52,510 --> 00:59:55,510
you get on that.
And then I mean I I think the

1171
00:59:55,510 --> 00:59:58,990
typical ones right like one
would be what I mean this is a

1172
00:59:58,990 --> 01:00:02,310
prop bet but the win totals like
I'm looking at the Virginia Tech

1173
01:00:02,310 --> 01:00:08,310
win totals right right around
5/5 and 1/2 like man I that

1174
01:00:08,310 --> 01:00:11,390
sounds about right.
I I know people are optimistic

1175
01:00:11,390 --> 01:00:15,190
Tech will make a ball game and
I'm right there with you if if

1176
01:00:15,190 --> 01:00:17,430
everything goes right.
I think Tech does make a ball

1177
01:00:17,430 --> 01:00:20,680
game.
But man, the the over unders on

1178
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:23,760
tech win totals this year are
pretty close to what it what I

1179
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:25,840
think is what I think is
possible.

1180
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:28,240
And that's why that's why you
bet, right?

1181
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:29,680
Oh yeah, you better put your
money.

1182
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:31,160
You better put your money on
that.

1183
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:33,840
Over this year it's over 5.
And hey.

1184
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:36,440
Tally's Tally's feeling strong,
Sheldon.

1185
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,880
What?
You got One prop bet, 1-2 prop

1186
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,400
bets, you'd say.
How about Grant Wells having a

1187
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:44,200
300 year passing game?
Cuz he only had one last year

1188
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:46,160
and that was looking to offer.
Okay.

1189
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:47,960
So I feel like, I mean, they're
gonna, they're gonna get more

1190
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:49,440
passive rights.
I don't know if they're gonna

1191
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:52,960
necessarily, you know, run all
this, but that'd be an

1192
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:55,720
interesting one all.
Right, David.

1193
01:00:57,440 --> 01:00:59,520
Yeah.
Well, I was about to look up

1194
01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:03,320
what Grant Wells season high
against an FBS team was last

1195
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:08,280
year, just to give that context.
So yeah, Shelton's right.

1196
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:11,960
He threw for 314.
He threw for 277 against Pitt.

1197
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:15,080
So with better with better
options that that that might be

1198
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:17,080
in place.
Shelton, I think it'd be

1199
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:20,680
interesting how many, how many
sacks does Antoine Power Island

1200
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:24,920
have?
If you look at at that, at that

1201
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:30,400
DB room, Virginia Tech has to
force the turnover issue this

1202
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:32,640
year.
Virginia Tech has two force

1203
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:35,640
teams to turn the ball over.
I mean, Tech was.

1204
01:01:36,290 --> 01:01:40,970
Second to last or to last in the
FBS last year in just turnover

1205
01:01:40,970 --> 01:01:47,890
margin that has to get better.
I I'm very interested to see how

1206
01:01:47,890 --> 01:01:51,850
you know with the group I'm most
excited to watch this year is

1207
01:01:51,850 --> 01:01:56,290
the defensive backroom.
You got Mansour, Dwayne, Dorian

1208
01:01:56,290 --> 01:02:01,090
Strong and Derek Canteen, who in
my mind, I think Derek Canteen

1209
01:02:01,090 --> 01:02:03,890
might be the second most
important transfer portal

1210
01:02:03,890 --> 01:02:06,620
pickup.
Behind Antoine Power Island,

1211
01:02:07,340 --> 01:02:11,540
because I think those two guys
are going to impact Virginia

1212
01:02:11,540 --> 01:02:15,340
Tech in incredible capacity.
Now, I do think Ollie Jennings

1213
01:02:15,340 --> 01:02:17,740
is going to have a great year,
but it also helps that Doki's

1214
01:02:17,740 --> 01:02:19,940
also brought in two other
transportal wide receivers.

1215
01:02:20,780 --> 01:02:23,860
But I'm Throw a prop bet on who
leads Virginia Tech in

1216
01:02:23,860 --> 01:02:26,140
interceptions, because you've
got three really good

1217
01:02:26,140 --> 01:02:31,720
candidates, I also think.
Just for for all the Colbeck

1218
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:35,520
fans out there, you can say,
yeah, how many, how many punts

1219
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:45,000
does Colbeck down or something?
Something like I'm I'm thinking

1220
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:48,000
about.
I'm thinking about like false

1221
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:49,560
starts.
You know false starts was

1222
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:54,800
obviously a big thing last year.
How many games with multiple

1223
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:57,040
false start penalties does
Virginia Tech have, right.

1224
01:02:57,040 --> 01:03:00,440
I mean that's obviously.
Kind of a downer of the prop

1225
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:02,920
bet, but there I think, I think
you could get behind it.

1226
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:05,640
I think there are a multitude of
of those that would be really,

1227
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:09,160
really interesting for people.
All righty.

1228
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:12,320
Well, Jason, we hope you heard
Jason lives in Roanoke, so he

1229
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:15,280
could at this technically drive
to West Virginia and make the

1230
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:18,760
bet there and drive back.
So if you take any of the bets,

1231
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:23,280
Mikey, Shelton or David
throughout here, throw them a

1232
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:25,360
little cash because they're
going to be down your way.

1233
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:32,120
Brian, what you got next, man?
Let's see here, let's see, let's

1234
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:38,600
let's go with with this question
here from the audience who are

1235
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:42,160
some nonstarters at the
beginning of the season that you

1236
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:45,280
think are kind of established
starters by year's end.

1237
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:50,040
And let's let's start with with
David.

1238
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:53,160
We'll go back across the aisle
this time.

1239
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:56,160
So I think this is interesting.
I I won't.

1240
01:03:56,160 --> 01:04:00,110
I can't.
I can't pinpoint it, but I I

1241
01:04:00,750 --> 01:04:04,750
would be tempted to bet that
there will be an offensive

1242
01:04:04,750 --> 01:04:08,510
lineman that did not start the
season that will be a guaranteed

1243
01:04:08,510 --> 01:04:11,750
starter at the end of the year.
That's just the way it played

1244
01:04:11,750 --> 01:04:13,790
out.
And I think unfortunately when

1245
01:04:13,790 --> 01:04:15,910
you look at it, Virginia Tech
got really, really lucky with

1246
01:04:15,910 --> 01:04:18,630
the injury bug last year.
No injuries on the offensive

1247
01:04:18,630 --> 01:04:20,990
line and the offensive line was
still that poor.

1248
01:04:21,910 --> 01:04:24,550
I'm not saying something's going
to happen, knock on wood,

1249
01:04:24,590 --> 01:04:26,110
obviously.
And Virginia Tech.

1250
01:04:26,540 --> 01:04:29,380
Again escaped pretty well as far
as injuries were concerned with

1251
01:04:29,380 --> 01:04:33,500
that specific group last year.
But I think some one of the

1252
01:04:33,500 --> 01:04:38,020
young guys whether it be Lathe
Gannon or Brody Meadows or

1253
01:04:38,020 --> 01:04:41,980
Johnny Garrett or Johnny Dixon.
I think one of those guys on the

1254
01:04:41,980 --> 01:04:45,140
offensive line, one of those
true freshmen or retro freshman

1255
01:04:45,980 --> 01:04:52,620
and that's that's another great
question from Sam I right now I.

1256
01:04:54,100 --> 01:04:57,860
I think Schick is is the current
guy, but that's what I'm that's

1257
01:04:57,860 --> 01:05:01,100
kind of what I'm interested in
right is could Brody Meadows

1258
01:05:01,100 --> 01:05:05,540
become the guy at right guard be
interesting or Clayton Freddy is

1259
01:05:05,540 --> 01:05:09,300
obviously the guy who had the
FCS all American experience.

1260
01:05:09,700 --> 01:05:13,460
But I think one of those guys on
the offmensive line, one of

1261
01:05:13,460 --> 01:05:16,620
those true freshmen, retro
freshmen is going to.

1262
01:05:17,070 --> 01:05:19,390
Solidify themself as a starter
at the end of the season.

1263
01:05:19,390 --> 01:05:21,710
I don't know who it's going to
be, and obviously you got a guy

1264
01:05:21,710 --> 01:05:24,030
like Parker Clements who's
experienced.

1265
01:05:25,310 --> 01:05:29,550
But what happens if something
happens is Xavier Chaplin and

1266
01:05:29,550 --> 01:05:32,190
Virginia Tech has to have
somebody fill in it.

1267
01:05:32,310 --> 01:05:35,230
Left tackle, right?
What if Brody Meadows moves the

1268
01:05:35,230 --> 01:05:39,670
left tackle and all of a sudden
he becomes a really good player

1269
01:05:39,670 --> 01:05:41,510
there?
I'm very interested to see how

1270
01:05:41,510 --> 01:05:43,910
this whole offensive line group
shakes out, because that's where

1271
01:05:43,910 --> 01:05:47,260
they're the most question marks.
The questions asked by William,

1272
01:05:47,860 --> 01:05:51,060
who are the nonstarters that you
think will be starters by year's

1273
01:05:51,060 --> 01:05:52,580
end?
When you look at a lot of these

1274
01:05:52,580 --> 01:05:57,020
other positions, like you look
at Mike linebacker, which I'd

1275
01:05:57,020 --> 01:06:00,260
love to talk about more later,
It's kind of a toss up between

1276
01:06:00,260 --> 01:06:03,740
two guys right now.
So you know, sure, one of those

1277
01:06:03,740 --> 01:06:05,620
guys might be the starter at the
end of the year, but that's not

1278
01:06:05,620 --> 01:06:07,980
as big of a big of a
competition.

1279
01:06:09,020 --> 01:06:13,270
The DB room is pretty well set.
I could say Keyshawn Burgos and

1280
01:06:13,270 --> 01:06:15,830
I do think Keyshawn Burgos is a
name that might surprise some

1281
01:06:15,830 --> 01:06:18,590
people this year he he's gotten
a lot of rave from from Brett

1282
01:06:18,590 --> 01:06:21,270
Pride and JC Price at defensive
end.

1283
01:06:21,350 --> 01:06:23,710
I think he's another name that
could potentially solidify

1284
01:06:23,710 --> 01:06:26,510
himself as a starter but I don't
know if there are there are too

1285
01:06:26,510 --> 01:06:29,990
many of those guys because I
think across the board for teen

1286
01:06:29,990 --> 01:06:34,470
techies set OK for the most part
as far as starters are

1287
01:06:34,470 --> 01:06:36,310
concerned.
I'm very interested to see how a

1288
01:06:36,310 --> 01:06:39,630
lot of those those battles for
the two two deep good work out

1289
01:06:39,630 --> 01:06:41,150
and I know we'll talk about that
more later.

1290
01:06:42,460 --> 01:06:43,140
So what about you?
I'm.

1291
01:06:44,420 --> 01:06:47,220
Going to go CJ McRae.
I'm assuming he's.

1292
01:06:48,060 --> 01:06:51,980
Oh yeah.
See I I I'm assuming obviously

1293
01:06:52,060 --> 01:06:53,180
Paul Rowland's going to start
there.

1294
01:06:53,900 --> 01:06:55,740
Yeah.
McRae actually grayed out really

1295
01:06:55,740 --> 01:06:57,660
well last year.
I think behind Garber.

1296
01:06:57,700 --> 01:07:01,660
He was Tech's second best
grading lineman, especially with

1297
01:07:01,660 --> 01:07:03,940
the pass rush.
So yeah, that's also a spot

1298
01:07:03,940 --> 01:07:06,100
where you're not quite as much
as offensive line, but he's the

1299
01:07:06,100 --> 01:07:07,420
lineman get definitely get beat
up a lot.

1300
01:07:07,950 --> 01:07:09,910
So I could see, you know, maybe
if the guys get, you know, beat

1301
01:07:09,910 --> 01:07:10,990
up all that, you can put them in
there.

1302
01:07:14,110 --> 01:07:15,870
I keep stole yours.
So you got to come up with

1303
01:07:15,870 --> 01:07:18,590
something.
You all man you you guys just

1304
01:07:18,590 --> 01:07:21,630
kept talking and kept stealing
my pics is what happened.

1305
01:07:21,630 --> 01:07:25,070
I I was going to go with Burgos
and I was like maybe maybe

1306
01:07:25,070 --> 01:07:27,150
McCray and then McCray got
taken.

1307
01:07:27,150 --> 01:07:29,870
And then I think all of David's
points on the offensive line are

1308
01:07:29,870 --> 01:07:32,350
really well taken because I
agree with David in terms of

1309
01:07:32,350 --> 01:07:36,130
like, I think the starters, you
know, for the most part, I think

1310
01:07:36,130 --> 01:07:38,250
Tech is pretty set kind of
across the board.

1311
01:07:38,250 --> 01:07:40,130
I mean, there's some positional
competition.

1312
01:07:40,130 --> 01:07:43,450
Obviously quarterback, Mike,
linebacker seems like offensive

1313
01:07:43,450 --> 01:07:46,130
line is pretty much set, but
there's going to be injuries up

1314
01:07:46,130 --> 01:07:47,650
front.
I mean, there always are

1315
01:07:47,650 --> 01:07:51,170
injuries up front.
The point where like if chaplain

1316
01:07:51,170 --> 01:07:54,010
gets hurt and Clements needs to
swing around to left tackle

1317
01:07:54,010 --> 01:07:57,250
because all of a sudden Clements
is the most experienced tackle

1318
01:07:57,250 --> 01:08:00,690
on the offensive line because
you know he's playing right

1319
01:08:00,690 --> 01:08:01,890
tackle.
That's where he's comfortable.

1320
01:08:01,890 --> 01:08:05,520
But now he's got to play left
tackle, like who kind of emerges

1321
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:08,400
there at that position.
And David listed a whole list of

1322
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:11,720
guys, you know could Meadows
seems like a swing guy, guard

1323
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:14,600
could kick out to tackle.
He's versatile, prize raving

1324
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:16,960
about him.
It's going to be either an

1325
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:20,080
offensive lineman or it's going
to be somebody, a defensive end.

1326
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:23,279
It's going to have to be out,
you know across from a PR.

1327
01:08:23,399 --> 01:08:27,560
And I I think that's really the
two, the two position groups on

1328
01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:30,439
the on the field right now on
both sides of the football that

1329
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:34,670
I think have you know some guys
set and and there are you know

1330
01:08:35,069 --> 01:08:36,830
some guys who I think are
established starters.

1331
01:08:36,830 --> 01:08:39,830
But I think at the same time,
there's also enough questions

1332
01:08:39,830 --> 01:08:42,910
where, you know, we could see
some of the younger guys get

1333
01:08:42,910 --> 01:08:45,310
some action that, you know, a
lot of tech fans maybe aren't

1334
01:08:45,310 --> 01:08:47,550
anticipating.
All right.

1335
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:52,279
Let me ask this because I think
all those names or names we're

1336
01:08:52,279 --> 01:08:55,000
hearing and you're reading about
David, obviously great work,

1337
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:56,399
Mike stuff you've been doing as
well.

1338
01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:58,279
But I'm going to go to actually
end game.

1339
01:08:58,279 --> 01:09:01,760
So at the beginning of the ACC
play this year, we got PIT, we

1340
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:06,160
got FSU, we got Wake Forest, we
got Syracuse, which one of the

1341
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:09,399
games Mike McDaniel.
So they can't steal from you

1342
01:09:09,399 --> 01:09:13,120
this time.
Do you consider those as a must

1343
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:14,880
win in the middle stretch of the
season?

1344
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:18,100
Where?
Three of those four are at Lane

1345
01:09:18,100 --> 01:09:21,420
Stadium.
Yeah, the answer is pit.

1346
01:09:21,979 --> 01:09:26,300
The reason why the answer is
Pitt is because #1 Virginia

1347
01:09:26,300 --> 01:09:28,220
Tech's going to be in a lot of
recruiting battles with

1348
01:09:28,220 --> 01:09:30,580
Pittsburgh as long as Brett
Prize head coach.

1349
01:09:30,899 --> 01:09:33,420
That's just a fact.
Like they're in the footprint

1350
01:09:34,020 --> 01:09:36,420
prize already trying to reach
for recruits in that area.

1351
01:09:37,859 --> 01:09:40,939
Pitt historically has gone after
similar guys to Virginia Tech,

1352
01:09:40,939 --> 01:09:45,180
even before Pry got here.
Pittsburgh is always a team that

1353
01:09:45,180 --> 01:09:47,420
gives Virginia Tech a lot of
trouble, especially at Heinz

1354
01:09:47,420 --> 01:09:50,260
Field.
But getting him at home, it's

1355
01:09:50,260 --> 01:09:53,580
been a little bit more friendly
to Virginia Tech over the last

1356
01:09:53,580 --> 01:09:55,540
decade.
I know, you know recently it

1357
01:09:55,540 --> 01:09:57,940
hasn't been great.
You kind of have to go back a

1358
01:09:57,940 --> 01:10:00,860
little bit to like 2019.
That was a pretty big win there

1359
01:10:01,580 --> 01:10:06,960
when Pitt came to Blacksburg.
But, like, in my opinion, this

1360
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:10,280
Pittsburgh team is flying under
the radar in the ACC.

1361
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:13,200
There are three, you know that
there are the two established

1362
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:15,440
teams at the top of the
conference, right in Clemson and

1363
01:10:15,440 --> 01:10:18,640
Florida State on paper.
Then there's a whole slew of

1364
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:22,560
teams kind of fighting for that
third spot in the ACC.

1365
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:26,680
Pittsburgh's a really attractive
pick to me because Norduzi's

1366
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:29,680
just established a really high
floor with that football team.

1367
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:33,080
Like, they're always right
around seven wins.

1368
01:10:33,500 --> 01:10:35,660
They've had backtoback 9 win
seasons.

1369
01:10:35,660 --> 01:10:38,180
It's the only two they've had in
the last two decades.

1370
01:10:38,820 --> 01:10:41,980
They have a really good program.
They're under in our doozy now

1371
01:10:42,060 --> 01:10:44,860
and he's raised the profile of
the program over the last couple

1372
01:10:44,860 --> 01:10:48,060
seasons and I and now they have
a quarterback.

1373
01:10:48,540 --> 01:10:52,380
You know when Phil Dracovic, who
you know hasn't been healthy and

1374
01:10:52,380 --> 01:10:55,060
we've seen both a good version
of him and a bad version of him.

1375
01:10:55,660 --> 01:10:59,060
But you know he he's reuniting
with an old offensive

1376
01:10:59,060 --> 01:11:02,580
coordinator.
He's from the Pittsburgh area.

1377
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:05,680
They have talent around him.
They're replacing some talent at

1378
01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:07,200
running back.
They do have some good young

1379
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:09,200
receivers.
They're going to have a really

1380
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:11,200
good defense.
That's going to be a really

1381
01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:15,480
tough game in Blacksburg and one
that Virginia Tech I think may

1382
01:11:15,480 --> 01:11:17,560
need to win to make a bowl game
like.

1383
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:21,400
I think it could come down to
that because this September

1384
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:23,160
stretch there are winnable games
there.

1385
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:26,200
There are certainly questions
around a lot of those teams the

1386
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:28,920
month of September in the first
four games.

1387
01:11:29,550 --> 01:11:31,590
But there are two Big 10 teams
on the schedule, too, that

1388
01:11:31,590 --> 01:11:33,110
Virginia Tech doesn't see very
often.

1389
01:11:33,110 --> 01:11:35,190
One of them's on the road in
Piscataway, and that's going to

1390
01:11:35,190 --> 01:11:38,750
be a weird environment that
Tech's going to go into with a

1391
01:11:38,750 --> 01:11:42,350
bunch of, you know, a bunch of
young players, weird game,

1392
01:11:43,110 --> 01:11:46,150
Marshall's inexperienced team
with a good coach and Charles

1393
01:11:46,150 --> 01:11:47,510
Huff.
That's not going to be this,

1394
01:11:47,510 --> 01:11:50,710
like, pushover game.
Produce a year one situation.

1395
01:11:50,710 --> 01:11:53,640
You get that in Blacksburg.
I just think that this

1396
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:56,160
Pittsburgh game could be
gigantic because I don't know

1397
01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:58,280
how Tech looks in the first four
games of the year.

1398
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:00,560
And I think if you know how Tech
comes out of September is going

1399
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:03,080
to be really important.
It's going to dictate whether or

1400
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:06,240
not they make a bowl game.
And that Pittsburgh game is is

1401
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:09,280
kind of the last one there where
tech's really going to need a

1402
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:12,040
good springboard in the
conference play, I think to kind

1403
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:14,440
of, you know, accomplish what
they want to accomplish this

1404
01:12:14,440 --> 01:12:16,200
year as a team.
I just think it's a really

1405
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:18,400
important game for a lot of
reasons and recruiting is at the

1406
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:20,720
top of that list.
I shown what about you?

1407
01:12:22,170 --> 01:12:25,050
I'm also going to say Pitt.
The reality is they have been

1408
01:12:25,050 --> 01:12:28,090
the second best program in ACC
over the last three years behind

1409
01:12:28,090 --> 01:12:30,170
Clemson.
And I think winning that game

1410
01:12:30,210 --> 01:12:32,370
would first of all kind of snap
the monkey off their back

1411
01:12:32,370 --> 01:12:35,290
because Pitt has had their
number a lot over the past few

1412
01:12:35,290 --> 01:12:37,410
seasons.
And also because it would kind

1413
01:12:37,410 --> 01:12:38,690
of show it like tags a little
bit back.

1414
01:12:38,690 --> 01:12:40,770
You know, being a program like
that, kind of like Mike was

1415
01:12:40,770 --> 01:12:43,090
saying, I don't know what's
going to impact recruiting, but

1416
01:12:43,090 --> 01:12:45,370
it would definitely make me feel
a lot more confident about the

1417
01:12:45,370 --> 01:12:47,890
the longterm trajectory of the
program getting that one.

1418
01:12:51,540 --> 01:12:54,860
Yeah, well, since they both said
that, I'll take a different

1419
01:12:54,860 --> 01:12:57,100
approach.
I think Syracuse could be

1420
01:12:57,100 --> 01:13:01,620
really, really interesting now.
This is not a great program up

1421
01:13:01,620 --> 01:13:04,620
in Syracuse.
It's a it's a program that could

1422
01:13:04,620 --> 01:13:09,140
go to a bowl game and and had
some success at times last year.

1423
01:13:09,620 --> 01:13:11,500
We don't really know what it's
going to look like.

1424
01:13:12,380 --> 01:13:14,060
But think about the stakes,
right?

1425
01:13:14,060 --> 01:13:15,940
It's a Thursday night game on
ESPN.

1426
01:13:16,180 --> 01:13:18,340
This is the time to pitch your
program.

1427
01:13:19,220 --> 01:13:26,460
And I think the I think as far
as recruiting stakes in terms of

1428
01:13:26,580 --> 01:13:29,900
the The Pit rivalry are
concerned, the Pit game is huge

1429
01:13:30,220 --> 01:13:35,100
and just showing that you are
back in terms of the ACC, right.

1430
01:13:35,100 --> 01:13:37,460
We don't know how the first four
games, like Mike said, are going

1431
01:13:37,460 --> 01:13:43,500
to play out, but that pit game
is a a big a big way to we're

1432
01:13:43,500 --> 01:13:45,180
going to find out in that Pit
game.

1433
01:13:46,780 --> 01:13:49,820
That's Syracuse game.
I'm really interested to see

1434
01:13:49,820 --> 01:13:54,380
this because it's a Thursday
night prime time game on ESPN.

1435
01:13:55,220 --> 01:13:59,300
You can pitch your program.
That is a selling point for

1436
01:13:59,300 --> 01:14:01,020
recruiting, right?
It's just like the West Virginia

1437
01:14:01,020 --> 01:14:04,420
game last year that is the
perfect opportunity to sell your

1438
01:14:04,420 --> 01:14:07,580
program.
Now that is down towards the

1439
01:14:07,580 --> 01:14:11,580
bottom of that four-game
stretch, so the Okies only have,

1440
01:14:11,580 --> 01:14:13,140
what, four or five games after
that?

1441
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:18,480
But that is a game that I think
if Virginia Tech wins, I mean,

1442
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:22,320
off the top of your head, can
any of you guys tell me the last

1443
01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:24,040
time Virginia Tech won a
Thursday night game?

1444
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:29,600
Was it Miami 16?
Yeah, it was Miami in 2016.

1445
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:31,600
So Virginia has played in a
couple of these.

1446
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:34,240
Virginia Tech has played in a
couple of these moments in the

1447
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:38,480
last couple years.
Georgia Tech a couple years ago

1448
01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:43,480
had had a lead and blew it.
You even even the non Thursday

1449
01:14:43,480 --> 01:14:45,720
night games playing Notre Dame
and prime time.

1450
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:48,960
Something like that, right?
Virginia Tech has had these

1451
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:50,440
moments and not taking advantage
of them.

1452
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:53,520
You think back to West Virginia
last year, the Hokies had an

1453
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:58,880
opportunity and they got
outplayed if Virginia Tech.

1454
01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:01,360
Even though it's not a great
Syracuse team, if the Hokies can

1455
01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:05,000
come out and play well on a
national stage, I think that

1456
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:08,600
does wonders.
As far as the eyeballs going to

1457
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:10,280
Virginia Tech, and it doesn't
matter.

1458
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:12,400
Virginia Tech could have three
wins at that point.

1459
01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:17,360
But if you can win on a Thursday
night and and show that you are

1460
01:15:17,440 --> 01:15:22,880
growing and you guys all know
it, pitch the home environment,

1461
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:26,760
pitch the Lane Stadium
atmosphere, that is only going

1462
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:31,290
to drive up the program and.
I think again, Pitt was my first

1463
01:15:31,290 --> 01:15:32,890
choice.
I think Pitt is the logical

1464
01:15:32,890 --> 01:15:36,610
answer, but I think Syracuse is
another pretty interesting one

1465
01:15:36,610 --> 01:15:40,970
that that could have some big
benefits if the Hokies can get

1466
01:15:40,970 --> 01:15:43,330
that win.
Before I let Tally ask this last

1467
01:15:43,330 --> 01:15:45,650
question, I'm gonna just
officially announce here that

1468
01:15:46,050 --> 01:15:48,170
this podcast is a Pitt hate
podcast.

1469
01:15:48,210 --> 01:15:53,050
So I a lot of respect for what
Nor Doozy has done from a

1470
01:15:53,050 --> 01:15:58,430
developmental standpoint, but.
I I can't do, I can't do it.

1471
01:15:58,590 --> 01:16:02,830
I can't do it.
So I will say though, just a

1472
01:16:02,830 --> 01:16:06,950
couple weeks ago, Brett Ciancy
was on here with us and said

1473
01:16:06,950 --> 01:16:11,430
that Pat Narduzzi told him that
he was the inventor of the

1474
01:16:11,430 --> 01:16:17,510
attacking 4/3.
BK Allie, fire away your last

1475
01:16:17,510 --> 01:16:19,270
question man.
Yeah man.

1476
01:16:19,270 --> 01:16:21,990
So part of my question was just
talking about marquee games for

1477
01:16:21,990 --> 01:16:25,550
this year and I pretty much you
guys kind of hit on what I was

1478
01:16:25,550 --> 01:16:28,380
going to ask.
With talking about the Syracuse

1479
01:16:28,380 --> 01:16:31,220
game on a Thursday night,
talking about the pick game,

1480
01:16:31,660 --> 01:16:35,100
talking about a little bit about
the Purdue game which BCP will

1481
01:16:35,100 --> 01:16:38,140
be at the beach at the at the
Purdue game.

1482
01:16:38,140 --> 01:16:40,900
So everybody needs to get
yourself together get on down to

1483
01:16:40,900 --> 01:16:43,020
Blacksburg for the Purdue game
so we can party.

1484
01:16:43,340 --> 01:16:48,100
But a question that I'll ask ask
all of you guys is looking at

1485
01:16:48,100 --> 01:16:50,100
all of us here.
We we pretty much studied

1486
01:16:50,100 --> 01:16:53,020
Virginia Tech and and and
fantasize about.

1487
01:16:53,660 --> 01:16:56,900
What games we're going to?
I asked you guys for future

1488
01:16:56,900 --> 01:16:59,220
games.
What do you guys have circled?

1489
01:16:59,220 --> 01:17:02,540
What games are you guys kind of
wanting to get to just future

1490
01:17:02,540 --> 01:17:04,500
games that the Hokies will be
playing in?

1491
01:17:05,740 --> 01:17:09,220
Sheldon, you lead man.
Yeah, I'll go NC State.

1492
01:17:09,380 --> 01:17:12,020
I think they are going to be the
best team that Tech plays at

1493
01:17:12,020 --> 01:17:14,460
home this year.
I think I'll have a really good

1494
01:17:14,500 --> 01:17:16,740
defense.
They've got Brennan Armstrong.

1495
01:17:16,780 --> 01:17:18,660
I think we'll bounce back.
I don't know what happened last

1496
01:17:18,780 --> 01:17:19,980
year.
Well, we do know what happened

1497
01:17:19,980 --> 01:17:20,500
last year.
You gave.

1498
01:17:20,500 --> 01:17:22,260
Yeah, he obviously had a
terrible off the blind.

1499
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:25,720
I think he kind of got the
gifts, but they've got him.

1500
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:28,320
They've got an A, their new OC
Syracuse.

1501
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:31,000
I think your offense might take
a little bit to collect the

1502
01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:32,120
bill, but they'll get it going
soon.

1503
01:17:32,480 --> 01:17:34,600
So I think NC State's probably
going to be the marketing

1504
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:36,520
matchup that Tech tends to see
in lane stadiums.

1505
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:44,440
David.
I think NC State is the pick.

1506
01:17:44,440 --> 01:17:47,720
I mean, NC State again, I think
is NC State or Pitt.

1507
01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:50,000
They're the two best teams that
Virginia Tech is going to play

1508
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:54,390
at home this year.
I think that that September 9th

1509
01:17:54,390 --> 01:17:58,350
game versus Purdue, man, that is
sneaky like I think that is a

1510
01:17:58,350 --> 01:18:02,190
good chance for Virginia Tech.
It's it's noon on ESPN too.

1511
01:18:02,430 --> 01:18:05,790
That is another that's another
good chance for Virginia Tech to

1512
01:18:05,790 --> 01:18:13,390
come out and and obviously the
program is hopefully trending in

1513
01:18:13,390 --> 01:18:16,630
the right direction.
But I think that is a good

1514
01:18:16,630 --> 01:18:20,070
opportunity to to kind of
surprise some folks and kind of

1515
01:18:20,070 --> 01:18:23,460
say, hey.
You know we're we're we're we're

1516
01:18:23,460 --> 01:18:26,580
not back but we are getting
there and I think if you can do

1517
01:18:26,580 --> 01:18:30,140
that again on the national stage
early in the season, we don't

1518
01:18:30,140 --> 01:18:32,060
need to talk about all Dominion
because that's a game for Gene

1519
01:18:32,060 --> 01:18:36,140
Tech should win.
I think that Purdue game kind of

1520
01:18:36,140 --> 01:18:40,380
like what Mike said earlier this
is a brand new team with a new

1521
01:18:40,380 --> 01:18:43,420
head coach.
It's it's going to be really

1522
01:18:43,420 --> 01:18:46,940
interesting and you're playing
in Elaine Stadium that is

1523
01:18:47,060 --> 01:18:49,100
probably going to be sold out
because.

1524
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:52,160
It's a pretty marquee matchup
with Purdue.

1525
01:18:52,440 --> 01:18:54,560
I think Purdue will probably
travel pretty well.

1526
01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:56,600
I think it'll be a really great
crowd.

1527
01:18:56,840 --> 01:19:00,280
It's an early September game.
The weather is going to be nice

1528
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:01,600
now that I said that it's going
to rain.

1529
01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:05,880
But thanks David, but it.
Jigs, I'll knock on wood.

1530
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:10,560
But yeah, I think, I think that
is a good opportunity again to

1531
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:14,120
sell the program and I think
that could do wonders if you

1532
01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:17,120
have a great performance against
Purdue in week two and you're

1533
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:21,420
two and oh.
That I'll leave it at.

1534
01:19:21,580 --> 01:19:24,300
That, yeah, Tech fans always
talk about when we're tired of

1535
01:19:24,300 --> 01:19:27,340
playing at 12:00, we're tired of
playing it, you know, in the

1536
01:19:27,340 --> 01:19:28,940
middle of the day on the cooking
network.

1537
01:19:28,940 --> 01:19:31,820
We'll fucking meet the people at
that time and get the prime time

1538
01:19:31,820 --> 01:19:34,540
matchup.
Mike, we'll go to you, the

1539
01:19:34,540 --> 01:19:39,180
Cooking Network, Purdue.
It produced my pick.

1540
01:19:40,580 --> 01:19:44,100
It's a national TV game.
Purdue's got it produced a name

1541
01:19:44,100 --> 01:19:46,790
brand.
The average college football fan

1542
01:19:46,790 --> 01:19:48,990
that's excited for football to
be back is going to be like

1543
01:19:49,030 --> 01:19:49,950
Virginia Tech.
Purdue.

1544
01:19:49,950 --> 01:19:53,390
That's an interesting game with
a rebuilding tech program in

1545
01:19:53,390 --> 01:19:55,510
year two and a first year head
coach.

1546
01:19:55,510 --> 01:19:58,030
Like a college football fan, An
educated college football fan is

1547
01:19:58,030 --> 01:19:59,470
going to take a look at that
game at noon.

1548
01:20:00,390 --> 01:20:01,990
It's going to be on one of the
screens, right?

1549
01:20:03,430 --> 01:20:08,510
Produce an interesting program.
Hudson Card is a quarterback.

1550
01:20:08,510 --> 01:20:12,550
It's been around a little bit.
I I think that Purdue has

1551
01:20:12,550 --> 01:20:15,190
potential to be pretty good
eventually.

1552
01:20:15,230 --> 01:20:16,750
I don't know if it'll be in year
one.

1553
01:20:17,190 --> 01:20:19,390
I think that's a winnable game
for Virginia Tech.

1554
01:20:19,790 --> 01:20:23,950
I think if you're looking for a
game or two on the schedule for

1555
01:20:23,950 --> 01:20:28,790
the Hokies to win to really kind
of start to you know, see signs

1556
01:20:28,790 --> 01:20:33,190
of life, I think Purdue's one
you have to win to really be

1557
01:20:33,190 --> 01:20:37,070
like all right this rebuild is
finally getting a little bit of

1558
01:20:37,070 --> 01:20:38,990
traction.
You got to start winning some of

1559
01:20:38,990 --> 01:20:42,900
the games that maybe you're not
supposed to win, but like not

1560
01:20:42,900 --> 01:20:45,900
only those, but maybe somebody's
like toss up 5050 games.

1561
01:20:46,140 --> 01:20:49,060
Purdue's going to be one of the
several toss up 5050 games on

1562
01:20:49,060 --> 01:20:51,740
the schedule.
It's an early season game.

1563
01:20:52,260 --> 01:20:54,620
I think Purdue's the pick.
NC State.

1564
01:20:54,900 --> 01:20:57,420
Point well taken.
They're going to be pretty good.

1565
01:20:57,580 --> 01:21:01,580
Brennan Armstrong reuniting with
an eye November.

1566
01:21:02,500 --> 01:21:06,820
It's at home senior day.
The Hokies could be battling for

1567
01:21:06,820 --> 01:21:09,990
a bowl game.
That could be a gigantic game.

1568
01:21:10,550 --> 01:21:13,030
Let me just about one point last
year.

1569
01:21:13,190 --> 01:21:16,670
One point, yeah, And a game that
the game that Tech controlled

1570
01:21:16,670 --> 01:21:19,670
for should have had it 2 1/2,
three quarters like.

1571
01:21:20,110 --> 01:21:22,470
We saw a little bit of adversity
and we crumbled.

1572
01:21:22,590 --> 01:21:26,390
Didn't know how to win yet.
One more of those and we finally

1573
01:21:26,390 --> 01:21:28,190
learned how to win.
Brian, you got one more to throw

1574
01:21:28,190 --> 01:21:28,870
out.
Yeah, yeah.

1575
01:21:28,870 --> 01:21:31,750
Before we close at this segment,
we're just gonna keep this

1576
01:21:31,750 --> 01:21:33,270
simple.
This is gonna be a yes or no,

1577
01:21:33,590 --> 01:21:35,630
Yes or no.
Will the Hokies make a bowl in

1578
01:21:35,630 --> 01:21:37,390
2023?
Mike.

1579
01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:39,720
What you got?
I'm smiling because I know, I

1580
01:21:39,720 --> 01:21:44,200
know David's answer already.
No, I I think Virginia Tech goes

1581
01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:47,560
five and seven.
Too many questions.

1582
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:52,360
Quarterback, offensive line,
Mike, linebacker, defensive end.

1583
01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:55,960
Like a couple of those positions
aren't going to hit.

1584
01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:58,000
And I just think, I think there
will be improvement.

1585
01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:01,800
I think Tech will have a shot.
Bowl game is definitely within

1586
01:22:02,280 --> 01:22:04,080
within the realm of possibility
for sure.

1587
01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:09,310
But five wins would be a huge.
That would be a huge jump.

1588
01:22:09,310 --> 01:22:11,670
The fans may not love that
answer, but like that would be a

1589
01:22:11,670 --> 01:22:13,510
huge jump compared to what we
saw last year.

1590
01:22:13,710 --> 01:22:17,070
One FBS win like one.
One Power Five win.

1591
01:22:17,070 --> 01:22:20,710
Sorry.
Like get to 5, get to six wins

1592
01:22:20,710 --> 01:22:23,310
show signs of life.
I'm going to go no, though, Five

1593
01:22:23,310 --> 01:22:24,470
and seven all.
Right, he says.

1594
01:22:24,550 --> 01:22:27,470
No, Shelton.
If I was the betting man, which

1595
01:22:27,470 --> 01:22:31,950
I'm not, I would take the over
5.5 wins technical, make a ball

1596
01:22:31,950 --> 01:22:33,510
game.
And.

1597
01:22:35,670 --> 01:22:36,910
I'm with Mike.
It's funny.

1598
01:22:37,700 --> 01:22:39,700
Mike's like, I knew what David
was going to say.

1599
01:22:40,380 --> 01:22:43,140
Mike had me on his podcast and
talked about this.

1600
01:22:43,380 --> 01:22:46,900
And look, I'll say this, the
potential is there.

1601
01:22:47,300 --> 01:22:51,060
This team has the potential in
my mind to win at least seven

1602
01:22:51,060 --> 01:22:53,300
games.
I if Virginia Tech went out on

1603
01:22:53,300 --> 01:22:56,180
that field and won seven games
this year, it would not shock me

1604
01:22:56,180 --> 01:22:59,100
in the slightest because there
is talent there.

1605
01:23:00,940 --> 01:23:03,420
But you also have to think, and
it's somebody who covers this

1606
01:23:03,420 --> 01:23:07,240
program day in, day out.
There is a lot of work that

1607
01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:10,920
still needs to be done and
Virginia Tech is on the up but

1608
01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:14,880
not there yet.
I think 5 and seven, I think six

1609
01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:17,480
wins in a bowl game is very
realistic.

1610
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:19,600
I think that's what everybody
should be shooting for.

1611
01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:25,080
I don't.
Until I see it, I don't want to.

1612
01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:30,360
I I cannot see it happening And
that that might sound bad, but

1613
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:33,080
there were too many games last
year like the NC State game.

1614
01:23:34,130 --> 01:23:38,290
Like the Miami game games were
in Virginia Tech's hands.

1615
01:23:38,330 --> 01:23:40,490
And the Hokies, It just went
away.

1616
01:23:40,850 --> 01:23:45,330
And if Virginia Tech wins those
games this year, or even half of

1617
01:23:45,330 --> 01:23:47,890
them, Virginia Tech's in a bowl
game, no question about it.

1618
01:23:48,530 --> 01:23:50,250
It's going to come down to the
turnovers.

1619
01:23:50,250 --> 01:23:52,810
It's going to come down to the
little tiny place.

1620
01:23:52,810 --> 01:23:54,850
It's going to come down to clock
management.

1621
01:23:55,130 --> 01:23:58,210
It's going to come down to Bret
Pride being a better head coach

1622
01:23:58,490 --> 01:24:00,410
now that he doesn't have the
responsibility of calling the

1623
01:24:00,410 --> 01:24:02,970
defense.
I don't know how that plays out.

1624
01:24:04,190 --> 01:24:06,670
I'm going to have to lean 5:00
and 7:00, but I don't think it's

1625
01:24:06,670 --> 01:24:09,230
out of the realm of possibility.
And I think this will be a much

1626
01:24:09,230 --> 01:24:12,710
better team this year with a lot
of talent.

1627
01:24:13,030 --> 01:24:15,030
And I think Tech is going to
surprise some people.

1628
01:24:15,030 --> 01:24:17,910
And again, it would not shock me
if this is a six or seven win

1629
01:24:17,910 --> 01:24:20,550
team.
But until the Hokies go out

1630
01:24:20,550 --> 01:24:24,430
there and and prove it,
especially with the offensive

1631
01:24:24,430 --> 01:24:28,150
line questions and a quarterback
that we don't know how how good

1632
01:24:28,150 --> 01:24:30,390
he's going to be because we
don't know who it's going to be.

1633
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:34,120
Everybody else around them and
maybe every other position might

1634
01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:37,520
be better.
I just, I just cannot say

1635
01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:40,480
Virginia Tech is going to win
six games unless I actually see

1636
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:42,080
the result on the field.
All right.

1637
01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:46,080
So so Sean's optimistic.
Mike and David have to see it

1638
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:48,440
next week.
Shelton's going to get more in

1639
01:24:48,440 --> 01:24:50,600
depth with us because we are
going to be doing a season

1640
01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:53,280
preview.
So Shelton, thanks for coming

1641
01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:55,120
on.
Get back.

1642
01:24:55,120 --> 01:24:57,360
Get away from the vacuum
cleaning person packed in.

1643
01:24:58,720 --> 01:25:02,070
Mike and David.
Boys, as always great having you

1644
01:25:02,070 --> 01:25:04,430
guys come on with us, we really
appreciate it.

1645
01:25:04,550 --> 01:25:07,950
Check out Mike over hang hokey
hangover amongst the other

1646
01:25:07,950 --> 01:25:12,230
10,000 things he does and always
check out David Cunningham along

1647
01:25:12,230 --> 01:25:16,310
with Andy and Chris over at Tech
Sideline.

1648
01:25:16,310 --> 01:25:18,950
You guys are doing a bang up job
this fall man.

1649
01:25:18,950 --> 01:25:21,430
Appreciate it boys.
And we're going to go to a

1650
01:25:21,430 --> 01:25:23,750
little clip of what's been going
on on the Boundary Corner

1651
01:25:23,750 --> 01:25:37,600
Podcast up to today.
Let let me ask this because it

1652
01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:41,480
it's already clear how much you
love Virginia Tech, just what

1653
01:25:41,480 --> 01:25:42,760
you're doing.
Why?

1654
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:45,960
Why was it Virginia Tech?
Because, man, I'm looking at

1655
01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:48,920
your offer list here.
You could have went anywhere you

1656
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:51,920
wanted.
First, what really caught my

1657
01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:53,840
eyes.
Coach Brooks.

1658
01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:55,880
So Coach Brooks.
From Maryland.

1659
01:25:58,130 --> 01:26:00,290
We always had that close
relationship and you know, we

1660
01:26:00,290 --> 01:25:57,160
use a family friend and.
He was actually my first offer.

1661
01:26:01,170 --> 01:26:03,850
Stuff like that so.
When he told me he was making a

1662
01:26:03,850 --> 01:26:06,690
move to Virginia.
Tech It automatically made my

1663
01:26:06,690 --> 01:26:08,170
list.
You know, so I went up there for

1664
01:26:08,170 --> 01:26:09,530
spring.
Practice and I'm like, hold on,

1665
01:26:09,530 --> 01:26:11,810
I actually.
Like it, you know, sitting down

1666
01:26:11,810 --> 01:26:13,170
with Coach Bar, with Coach Queen
and Coach.

1667
01:26:15,090 --> 01:26:16,410
And you know them just having a
vision.

1668
01:26:16,410 --> 01:26:18,170
For me, being in the face of the
defense.

1669
01:26:18,170 --> 01:26:20,050
And, you know, just doing
everything in the defense.

1670
01:26:20,050 --> 01:26:22,290
That really caught my eye.
So I knew it was a place for me.

1671
01:26:22,890 --> 01:26:24,610
I just came back on the official
to make sure.

1672
01:26:25,440 --> 01:26:28,160
The first thing he's looking for
is that is there a free access

1673
01:26:28,160 --> 01:26:31,440
throw, Is there an alert throw
where you can just get it out

1674
01:26:31,440 --> 01:26:34,400
there and get some free yardage?
That's what you're looking for

1675
01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:36,320
first.
So if if if the answer to that

1676
01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:37,960
is yes, then you're going to
throw that.

1677
01:26:38,440 --> 01:26:40,080
If not, you're going to move to
the next step.

1678
01:26:40,600 --> 01:26:43,360
Next step do is there box or
presser issues?

1679
01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:47,240
Is the box overloaded?
Is there some somebody showing

1680
01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:51,120
blitz presnap that could create
some some issues for you if the

1681
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:53,150
answer is yes.
You're going to go ahead and

1682
01:26:53,150 --> 01:26:55,430
make a check to pass protection
and you're going to throw the

1683
01:26:55,430 --> 01:27:00,030
pass in that RPO call.
If the answer is no, you're

1684
01:27:00,030 --> 01:27:03,110
going to move to the next step.
Then you're going to ID the

1685
01:27:03,110 --> 01:27:07,110
redefender presnap and determine
if they can make the tackle on

1686
01:27:07,110 --> 01:27:10,270
the ball carrier at or near the
line of scrimmage.

1687
01:27:11,110 --> 01:27:14,710
So if the guy that you're
reading typically in in like a

1688
01:27:14,710 --> 01:27:16,870
four, three defense that we're
looking at here, that's going to

1689
01:27:16,870 --> 01:27:19,910
be the outside linebacker to the
the throw side.

1690
01:27:20,700 --> 01:27:24,700
If that guy can come up and make
a plate near or at the line of

1691
01:27:24,700 --> 01:27:29,660
scrimmage, then you're not going
to, you're going to go with the

1692
01:27:29,660 --> 01:27:33,060
pass.
So if the answer is yes, you're

1693
01:27:33,060 --> 01:27:35,540
going to make a perimeter throw
or a pitch, whichever the play

1694
01:27:35,540 --> 01:27:38,180
call is.
And if he's kind of outside the

1695
01:27:38,180 --> 01:27:40,500
box, he's playing that pass
leverage, then you're going to

1696
01:27:40,500 --> 01:27:45,180
go with that middle run or dive.
And I said it's my job as the

1697
01:27:45,180 --> 01:27:48,220
head coach to make this most,
the most competitive roster in

1698
01:27:48,220 --> 01:27:49,660
the country.
That's my job.

1699
01:27:50,330 --> 01:27:51,730
If I'm not.
Doing that, I'm failing

1700
01:27:51,730 --> 01:27:53,730
everybody in here.
We all want to win a

1701
01:27:53,730 --> 01:27:57,370
championship, the.
Fans, the administration, the

1702
01:27:57,370 --> 01:28:00,890
staff, the families, the players
that the Letterman.

1703
01:28:01,570 --> 01:28:05,850
So to do that, the roster has to
be as competitive as we can be.

1704
01:28:06,130 --> 01:28:09,090
I tell him, I told him that I'm
bringing somebody in to take

1705
01:28:09,090 --> 01:28:11,730
your job.
That's what I'm doing, so you

1706
01:28:11,730 --> 01:28:14,650
better be on your toes.
That's as real as it gets.

1707
01:28:20,440 --> 01:28:24,520
And we are back to the 2023
Hokies preview panel with the

1708
01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:28,600
Boundary Corner podcast.
That last one man for all y'all

1709
01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:29,480
that.
Haven't checked that out.

1710
01:28:29,480 --> 01:28:31,440
We did that about two months ago
with Coach Pratt.

1711
01:28:31,440 --> 01:28:34,640
Check that out.
He gave three fans off the

1712
01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:39,120
street 45 minutes of his time to
talk about the program and it

1713
01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:42,960
was unbelievable.
And now we going to get in the

1714
01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:46,280
trenches.
Everybody knows that this is a

1715
01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:49,810
lineman podcast.
Definitely.

1716
01:28:49,890 --> 01:28:50,970
Yes, Sir.
Carefully.

1717
01:28:51,210 --> 01:28:53,290
So let's start bringing a
gentleman on the We're going to

1718
01:28:53,290 --> 01:28:55,930
be talking about some more fun
hokey stuff with Brian Lead us

1719
01:28:55,930 --> 01:28:57,090
off.
Yes Sir.

1720
01:28:57,090 --> 01:28:58,930
Yes Sir.
This next panelist.

1721
01:28:58,930 --> 01:29:02,610
He is a former Virginia Tech
offensive lineman and maybe one

1722
01:29:02,610 --> 01:29:05,490
of the most well known members
of the Hokey podcast community.

1723
01:29:05,930 --> 01:29:09,290
He is a Sons of Saturday
founder, podcaster and content

1724
01:29:09,290 --> 01:29:11,570
creator.
Ladies and gentlemen, Billy Ray

1725
01:29:11,570 --> 01:29:15,730
Mitchell. 10:30.
Can't think of anything else I'd

1726
01:29:15,730 --> 01:29:17,610
rather be doing than this right
now.

1727
01:29:17,650 --> 01:29:19,370
Appreciate you guys having me
on.

1728
01:29:19,370 --> 01:29:22,850
And this is quite a production
you guys put together, so hats

1729
01:29:22,850 --> 01:29:24,490
off to you guys.
This is this is awesome.

1730
01:29:24,490 --> 01:29:26,570
I'm happy to be here.
Yeah, thanks for coming man.

1731
01:29:26,570 --> 01:29:29,450
We appreciate it.
I know good to link up with the

1732
01:29:29,450 --> 01:29:32,170
with the Suns of Saturday, do a
little collab here with the a

1733
01:29:32,730 --> 01:29:35,570
lot of the podcast community
bringing everyone together in

1734
01:29:35,570 --> 01:29:37,850
the in the Virginia Tech
Twittersphere and everything

1735
01:29:37,850 --> 01:29:39,530
else.
So appreciate you coming on with

1736
01:29:39,530 --> 01:29:40,770
us.
No doubt.

1737
01:29:40,810 --> 01:29:42,420
Appreciate it.
Billy Wood.

1738
01:29:42,420 --> 01:29:45,060
Hallie, good to see you, my man.
Hey, we got to retire That we

1739
01:29:45,060 --> 01:29:47,540
got to we got to we got to.
I don't want to see you in

1740
01:29:47,540 --> 01:29:51,660
Blacksburg and that that gobble
till you wobble explicitive

1741
01:29:51,660 --> 01:29:55,020
tshirt.
This year I'm very anti anti

1742
01:29:55,020 --> 01:29:59,620
that tshirt.
Come on, man, where you at right

1743
01:29:59,620 --> 01:30:00,940
now, man?
You be all over the place.

1744
01:30:00,940 --> 01:30:04,580
Where are you right now?
I am in Osterville on the Cape.

1745
01:30:06,070 --> 01:30:11,030
And I fly tomorrow to Charlotte
for our hot wings and hotter

1746
01:30:11,030 --> 01:30:14,030
take segment.
So I'm looking forward to that,

1747
01:30:14,030 --> 01:30:18,670
looking forward to seeing Pat
smiling face tomorrow and we'll

1748
01:30:18,670 --> 01:30:20,270
be doing that.
So that's where I am now.

1749
01:30:20,630 --> 01:30:22,870
Billy used to be a little bit
bigger last time I seen you,

1750
01:30:22,870 --> 01:30:24,590
man, you look like you lost some
weight.

1751
01:30:24,590 --> 01:30:28,150
So if you need a bodyguard, me
and Brian are available.

1752
01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:30,240
We got.
You we.

1753
01:30:31,560 --> 01:30:32,880
Got you.
I'm down some pounds, but I

1754
01:30:32,880 --> 01:30:35,360
still, I still got some pops.
So I think, I think I'll be all

1755
01:30:35,360 --> 01:30:36,280
right.
But we're going to hook you up.

1756
01:30:36,280 --> 01:30:38,400
We're going to hook you up with
some row back for this, for this

1757
01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:40,600
football season.
So you give me, you give me an

1758
01:30:40,600 --> 01:30:42,360
address and we'll get you.
We'll get you some threads all.

1759
01:30:42,520 --> 01:30:45,440
Right, man, Sounds good.
But next man, we appreciate

1760
01:30:45,440 --> 01:30:48,480
Billy being on.
Next, we want to bring on Mr.

1761
01:30:48,480 --> 01:30:51,080
Luther Mattie.
He needs no introduction.

1762
01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:52,480
He's a little bit younger than
us.

1763
01:30:52,680 --> 01:30:55,600
So all you young people who are
on the show, I don't want to

1764
01:30:55,600 --> 01:30:57,720
hear you talking about.
You don't know this person, I

1765
01:30:57,720 --> 01:31:00,030
mean.
He he was there in about what

1766
01:31:00,030 --> 01:31:04,550
20/12/2013.
I know he was all ACC performer

1767
01:31:04,550 --> 01:31:09,390
on the defensive line that he
was an iron hokey Mr. Everything

1768
01:31:09,670 --> 01:31:11,150
Luther magic.
Bring him in for me.

1769
01:31:12,590 --> 01:31:15,950
Luther, how we doing tonight?
What's going on, boys?

1770
01:31:16,030 --> 01:31:17,790
How y'all doing?
How to take me a little energy

1771
01:31:17,790 --> 01:31:20,110
drink, man?
Sleep there for a second.

1772
01:31:20,470 --> 01:31:24,230
Oh man, We're saving the best
for last, man.

1773
01:31:24,590 --> 01:31:26,230
Saving the best.
That's for last.

1774
01:31:26,840 --> 01:31:30,800
I'm making notes over here.
We are happy to have you here.

1775
01:31:31,840 --> 01:31:33,920
I know you didn't mad assist
earlier this year.

1776
01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:35,520
I looked over that a little
while ago.

1777
01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:37,920
Great thing you do down the city
because you're in the Hill City,

1778
01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:39,280
right?
You're in Lynchburg still,

1779
01:31:39,280 --> 01:31:40,720
correct?
Yeah, I'm a good old Lynchburg,

1780
01:31:40,720 --> 01:31:43,200
man.
About two hours, Two hours.

1781
01:31:43,360 --> 01:31:47,680
Blacksburg yeah, Yeah.
About an hour N where me and

1782
01:31:47,680 --> 01:31:50,640
Brian grew up, man.
So it's good to see you still

1783
01:31:50,640 --> 01:31:55,640
doing that and you know it's
great to have you on because I

1784
01:31:55,640 --> 01:31:58,730
go back.
I mean all, all of us here.

1785
01:31:59,050 --> 01:32:01,370
I mean you and Billy Ray about
the same time in school.

1786
01:32:01,370 --> 01:32:03,570
I know he's a little younger
than you, but I remember

1787
01:32:03,570 --> 01:32:07,410
watching you play at Lane
Stadium on the washing field

1788
01:32:07,770 --> 01:32:11,250
when I was a little bit younger.
So it's awesome to have you on,

1789
01:32:11,250 --> 01:32:14,450
man, and we appreciate you
taking the time tonight.

1790
01:32:15,640 --> 01:32:19,400
Yeah and tell you say that cuz I
feel old as hell, especially

1791
01:32:19,400 --> 01:32:21,840
when I get up in the morning.
I'm about 55.

1792
01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:23,120
You know what I'm talking about,
right Billy?

1793
01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:26,440
Like those knees.
But yeah, I'm gonna be here and

1794
01:32:26,440 --> 01:32:30,360
talk to you guys tonight.
Football years go a lot longer

1795
01:32:30,360 --> 01:32:33,240
than the regular years, so it's
a little bit more off of you.

1796
01:32:33,790 --> 01:32:36,950
Got your agent and doggie is?
Agent and doggie is Lord have

1797
01:32:36,950 --> 01:32:41,630
mercy All right well the the the
last gentleman we are bringing

1798
01:32:41,630 --> 01:32:44,550
on tonight.
He has been with us numerous

1799
01:32:44,550 --> 01:32:47,350
times and last night we got to
join on him on his podcast.

1800
01:32:47,950 --> 01:32:50,270
He is a graduate of Virginia
Tech University.

1801
01:32:50,750 --> 01:32:54,150
He was an all conference.
He was a team captain on the

1802
01:32:54,150 --> 01:32:56,350
offensive line.
He is the founder of Victory

1803
01:32:56,350 --> 01:33:02,190
Life LLC, Offensive guard Mr.
Dwight Vic.

1804
01:33:03,730 --> 01:33:06,250
Brother, good to have you on
again.

1805
01:33:06,250 --> 01:33:09,090
Good to see you again.
Yo, what's up man?

1806
01:33:09,090 --> 01:33:10,770
Didn't I just see you guys last
night?

1807
01:33:11,370 --> 01:33:13,450
Yeah, we were at the bottom of
the screen last night.

1808
01:33:13,450 --> 01:33:14,810
Now you're at the bottom of.
The night, Yeah, You're at the

1809
01:33:14,810 --> 01:33:15,930
bottom of the.
Night.

1810
01:33:16,050 --> 01:33:18,290
I'll take that.
I'll take that, man.

1811
01:33:18,690 --> 01:33:22,450
Yo, you got us on this T&T.
Lakers versus Spurs schedule

1812
01:33:24,370 --> 01:33:27,130
10:30, the 10:30 joint, man.
My wife was like, who are you

1813
01:33:27,130 --> 01:33:30,170
talking to upstairs?
I said my guys from last night.

1814
01:33:30,550 --> 01:33:32,590
You know.
We made you run.

1815
01:33:32,830 --> 01:33:35,310
We made you run late last night.
We held you up tonight.

1816
01:33:35,350 --> 01:33:37,470
I mean we just we just costing
you some sleep.

1817
01:33:37,830 --> 01:33:40,070
It's all good, man.
I I didn't even realize, you

1818
01:33:40,070 --> 01:33:41,510
know, because we weren't that
big chat.

1819
01:33:41,790 --> 01:33:43,670
You guys got my man Billy up
here.

1820
01:33:43,670 --> 01:33:45,390
And Luther, this is going to be
great, man.

1821
01:33:45,390 --> 01:33:48,730
What's up fellas?
Hey chilling man, you don't get

1822
01:33:48,730 --> 01:33:50,250
in, Don't get in trouble now, do
I?

1823
01:33:50,610 --> 01:33:51,610
Why is that?
You talking to a?

1824
01:33:51,650 --> 01:33:54,330
Little don't don't.
Get in.

1825
01:33:54,610 --> 01:33:56,090
Trouble man.
I'm hey, I'm a veteran.

1826
01:33:56,090 --> 01:33:58,450
I'm the OG man.
Hey I know and not how to get in

1827
01:33:58,450 --> 01:34:00,370
trouble I know.
What is you?

1828
01:34:00,570 --> 01:34:02,250
I'm I can I can school.
Y'all.

1829
01:34:02,250 --> 01:34:05,490
I can school y'all on that.
I.

1830
01:34:05,530 --> 01:34:08,890
Believe that, I believe that.
Well fellows, we got a lot of

1831
01:34:08,890 --> 01:34:10,930
good questions to ask.
Y'all, we've got some stuff

1832
01:34:10,930 --> 01:34:12,930
coming in from the comments.
We're definitely going to drag

1833
01:34:12,930 --> 01:34:15,570
for y'all to answer, but Brian,
you fired off first, man.

1834
01:34:16,230 --> 01:34:17,430
Yeah, I mean we already talked
about it.

1835
01:34:17,430 --> 01:34:19,350
We're we're aligning podcasts
here.

1836
01:34:20,030 --> 01:34:23,110
Let's speak specifically about
the offensive line and Billy,

1837
01:34:23,110 --> 01:34:26,270
this is for you.
This line struggled mightily in

1838
01:34:26,270 --> 01:34:30,750
all phases most of last year
from discipline to assignments,

1839
01:34:30,750 --> 01:34:34,310
everything in between.
Heading into 2023, what, if

1840
01:34:34,310 --> 01:34:37,390
anything, has changed for this
group that kind of gives you

1841
01:34:37,390 --> 01:34:40,030
optimism to see some significant
improvement?

1842
01:34:41,710 --> 01:34:43,480
So.
We're going to talk a little bit

1843
01:34:43,480 --> 01:34:45,120
about the group and then I'm
going to do a little bit of a

1844
01:34:45,120 --> 01:34:47,560
frequency hot, but but bear with
me, I'm going to tie it back.

1845
01:34:48,560 --> 01:34:52,120
So 2023, it's looking like Brody
Meadows, Braylon Moore, Kaden

1846
01:34:52,120 --> 01:34:54,760
Moore, Bob Schlick and Parker
Clements.

1847
01:34:55,320 --> 01:34:59,440
Every single person backing up
that group is a freshman or a

1848
01:34:59,440 --> 01:35:02,680
sophomore with the exception of
Clayton Freighty, who's likely

1849
01:35:02,680 --> 01:35:05,720
going to be the 6th man.
You look at Kaden Moore, he's

1850
01:35:05,720 --> 01:35:09,480
two years removed from being a
freshman allamerican for me.

1851
01:35:09,480 --> 01:35:15,360
What changed about the team?
That gives me optimism is our

1852
01:35:15,360 --> 01:35:18,160
running back room.
You guys mentioned it on the, I

1853
01:35:18,160 --> 01:35:21,040
believe it was one or two
segments ago how we used to have

1854
01:35:21,040 --> 01:35:23,520
14 or 16 running backs on the
team.

1855
01:35:23,880 --> 01:35:28,000
But the room was primarily
filled with guys who you weren't

1856
01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:29,080
going to see playing running
back.

1857
01:35:29,080 --> 01:35:30,920
You're going to see him running
down the field on punt.

1858
01:35:30,920 --> 01:35:32,960
You're going to see him running
down the field on kick return,

1859
01:35:32,960 --> 01:35:34,240
running down the field on
kickoff.

1860
01:35:35,000 --> 01:35:39,400
And outside of the team that we
had with Raheem Blackshare and

1861
01:35:39,400 --> 01:35:42,470
Khalil Herbert.
I can't remember a time that

1862
01:35:42,470 --> 01:35:46,470
we've seen a room so deep.
If you go ahead and you look at

1863
01:35:46,470 --> 01:35:48,230
kind of the four that I think
you're going to get the most

1864
01:35:48,230 --> 01:35:49,910
carries, you got.
Malachi Thomas, who went

1865
01:35:49,910 --> 01:35:53,430
healthy, is a complete stud.
He's averaging 4 1/2 yards per

1866
01:35:53,430 --> 01:35:57,950
carry.
He came in at 6 foot 180 when we

1867
01:35:57,950 --> 01:35:59,630
were watching him in the
Syracuse game and those

1868
01:35:59,630 --> 01:36:02,350
throwback uniforms, and he
looked super scrawny.

1869
01:36:02,350 --> 01:36:04,590
You're like, I don't know about
this guy, but he sticks his face

1870
01:36:04,590 --> 01:36:08,030
in there on blitz protection and
he he played his tail off.

1871
01:36:08,590 --> 01:36:11,950
He's listed at two O 6 now.
Look at Basal Tooten.

1872
01:36:11,990 --> 01:36:14,510
He was in 1000 yard rusher last
year at NCANT.

1873
01:36:14,510 --> 01:36:17,150
And look, I get it.
It's a different division.

1874
01:36:17,150 --> 01:36:18,950
Did that really matter for Brock
Hoffman?

1875
01:36:18,950 --> 01:36:21,350
Did that really matter for
Justice Reed?

1876
01:36:22,510 --> 01:36:26,310
And also Tooten went for 130
yards versus Duke and they're

1877
01:36:26,310 --> 01:36:29,430
playing inferior competition.
But he's also rushing behind

1878
01:36:29,430 --> 01:36:34,750
inferior blocking as well at
NCANT and then Chance Black.

1879
01:36:35,350 --> 01:36:38,750
I'm just telling you, it's been
a little bit of a weight if

1880
01:36:38,750 --> 01:36:41,710
you're sleeping on Chance Black.
You got to sleep with one eye

1881
01:36:41,710 --> 01:36:43,110
open.
I think this guy is going to be

1882
01:36:43,110 --> 01:36:45,870
an absolute study.
Super athletic, he hasn't really

1883
01:36:45,870 --> 01:36:48,430
gotten the chance, but when he's
got it on the field, super

1884
01:36:48,430 --> 01:36:51,430
athletic, game breaking speed,
I'm excited to see him.

1885
01:36:51,870 --> 01:36:53,870
And then you have Bryce Duke
who's a youngster with great

1886
01:36:53,870 --> 01:36:55,910
size, who only got better during
the offseason.

1887
01:36:56,750 --> 01:37:00,150
Last year we averaged 110 yards
per game.

1888
01:37:00,150 --> 01:37:03,710
I'm going to repeat that.
We averaged 110 yards per game

1889
01:37:03,750 --> 01:37:08,890
rushing to football and.
There I I do not see that

1890
01:37:08,890 --> 01:37:11,170
happening again.
Bacial Tutin averaged more

1891
01:37:11,170 --> 01:37:14,570
rushing yards as an individual
than we averaged as a team.

1892
01:37:15,330 --> 01:37:18,370
So you know David mentioned this
in the previous segment.

1893
01:37:18,370 --> 01:37:22,610
I think Coach Crook has really
simplified the scheme, has

1894
01:37:22,610 --> 01:37:26,170
simplified the responsibilities,
is probably on a bit of the same

1895
01:37:26,170 --> 01:37:29,770
wavelength from scheme as Coach
Bowen is.

1896
01:37:30,250 --> 01:37:34,290
So I think if we can be
technically sound, we know what

1897
01:37:34,290 --> 01:37:37,740
our responsibilities are.
Cut out the pre snap penalties

1898
01:37:37,740 --> 01:37:40,100
and understand what we need to
do and give the running backs a

1899
01:37:40,100 --> 01:37:42,820
chance.
I really think this unit can be

1900
01:37:42,820 --> 01:37:44,700
okay.
I really think that we have

1901
01:37:44,700 --> 01:37:47,260
enough talented backs where if
we can get him to the second

1902
01:37:47,300 --> 01:37:50,500
level, there's enough talent
there that this unit can be a

1903
01:37:50,500 --> 01:37:52,100
lot better than they were last
year.

1904
01:37:53,780 --> 01:37:55,140
Yeah, I definitely agree with
that.

1905
01:37:55,220 --> 01:37:57,900
Definitely agree with what
you're saying when you talk

1906
01:37:57,900 --> 01:38:00,340
about the running back room,
when you talk about the line, I

1907
01:38:00,340 --> 01:38:04,780
mean 110 yards last year as a
team, Pitiful.

1908
01:38:05,290 --> 01:38:11,090
That's all I can say.
You ain't going to win a lot of

1909
01:38:11,090 --> 01:38:07,130
games.
Can't do that.

1910
01:38:07,170 --> 01:38:09,530
Can't do it and win.
No, you can do it, but you ain't

1911
01:38:09,530 --> 01:38:12,570
going to do it and.
You're not going to win a lot of

1912
01:38:12,570 --> 01:38:15,090
games, but we're going to kind
of pivot a little bit and this,

1913
01:38:15,330 --> 01:38:16,930
this question is going to be for
for Luther.

1914
01:38:17,450 --> 01:38:19,930
Just talking about the defensive
line a little bit and the

1915
01:38:19,930 --> 01:38:22,370
defensive line this year is a
little, you know, it's a little

1916
01:38:22,370 --> 01:38:25,090
bit different.
We got a good mix or odd mix,

1917
01:38:25,090 --> 01:38:28,930
I'll say, of veterans and up and
comers as well as transfers,

1918
01:38:29,410 --> 01:38:32,800
Coach Prize identified.
No getting after the passer as a

1919
01:38:33,040 --> 01:38:36,720
emphasis, a point of emphasis
that he's had this offseason.

1920
01:38:37,440 --> 01:38:41,400
How do you think this mix of
talent will handle the the task

1921
01:38:41,720 --> 01:38:43,760
of getting after the passer in
2023?

1922
01:38:45,640 --> 01:38:47,760
Yeah, you know, it's funny,
right?

1923
01:38:47,760 --> 01:38:51,440
It's been quite a while since
tech has had like a real, I

1924
01:38:51,520 --> 01:38:53,800
thought elite Russia.
I mean, Garber was my guy.

1925
01:38:53,800 --> 01:38:55,040
He was a pretty good Russia
lashing on.

1926
01:38:55,040 --> 01:38:57,240
Get me wrong.
I'm talking about guy that you

1927
01:38:57,240 --> 01:38:59,120
just, you know, he just fears
38.

1928
01:38:59,810 --> 01:39:01,770
Right before the half,
two-minute jail, somebody just

1929
01:39:01,770 --> 01:39:03,090
fears to get after the
quarterback.

1930
01:39:03,090 --> 01:39:06,370
So I think it's been a while
since we have somebody quite

1931
01:39:06,370 --> 01:39:07,690
like that to rush the
quarterback.

1932
01:39:08,770 --> 01:39:13,810
But this is the top three guys
is probably going to be CJ Cole

1933
01:39:13,810 --> 01:39:18,290
Nelson and then the transfer
Antwon Car Island and as far as

1934
01:39:18,610 --> 01:39:20,250
who the better player and all
that good stuff.

1935
01:39:20,490 --> 01:39:23,450
They're all fairly similar size,
you know about 6 threeish

1936
01:39:24,250 --> 01:39:28,050
between 2240 and 2:50, but I
think that.

1937
01:39:29,300 --> 01:39:32,220
Ryland has a bit more twitch in
that group right?

1938
01:39:32,220 --> 01:39:34,700
Like he knows how to bend the
corner, turn that toe and and

1939
01:39:34,700 --> 01:39:36,860
and get to the court and
actually finished.

1940
01:39:37,820 --> 01:39:39,540
He has more arsenal as far as
moves.

1941
01:39:39,540 --> 01:39:41,860
He could do it inside and now he
could do a nice spin move.

1942
01:39:42,660 --> 01:39:45,220
You know things that Billy
probably practice every now and

1943
01:39:45,220 --> 01:39:48,340
again.
So I think you know he he

1944
01:39:48,340 --> 01:39:51,660
probably has the most potential
out of that group but also don't

1945
01:39:51,660 --> 01:39:53,900
support the gos and interior.
You know, I might be a little

1946
01:39:54,100 --> 01:39:58,040
nice being that I played the.
But I do think that Kendricks,

1947
01:39:58,040 --> 01:40:00,480
he does, he does know how to get
to the port.

1948
01:40:01,200 --> 01:40:04,520
If he cannot in his motor a
little bit more, I think he

1949
01:40:04,520 --> 01:40:06,080
could have a big time here this
year.

1950
01:40:06,360 --> 01:40:08,800
And hopefully him and other guys
in the interior, they might open

1951
01:40:08,800 --> 01:40:10,640
up for the guys on the outside
to get to the quarterback if

1952
01:40:10,640 --> 01:40:13,640
they could kind of punish that a
gap and cause some havoc inside.

1953
01:40:15,160 --> 01:40:18,320
So I just want to let y'all know
I ain't negated anything to look

1954
01:40:18,320 --> 01:40:20,560
to say it.
But for the listeners who are on

1955
01:40:20,560 --> 01:40:24,560
here who are listening to this
man talk, this is a all ACC

1956
01:40:24,800 --> 01:40:27,400
perform.
He knows what he's talking about

1957
01:40:27,560 --> 01:40:29,360
when he looks at the defensive
line.

1958
01:40:29,680 --> 01:40:32,960
So I get it man.
We all passionate fans and we

1959
01:40:32,960 --> 01:40:36,320
think and not think we may know
what we're talking about, but

1960
01:40:36,320 --> 01:40:38,840
when this man is talking
defensive line, he knows what

1961
01:40:38,840 --> 01:40:40,600
he's talking about.
Did you hear what he said?

1962
01:40:40,600 --> 01:40:42,440
Talking about bending, getting
that.

1963
01:40:42,560 --> 01:40:44,960
Hey, I'm just saying man, go
back and listen to it.

1964
01:40:45,200 --> 01:40:46,400
Y'all going to catch it
tomorrow.

1965
01:40:47,400 --> 01:40:51,940
I got a I got a I got a quick.
A quick question for you guys.

1966
01:40:51,940 --> 01:40:56,060
Can anybody tell me who the last
player was at Virginia Tech to

1967
01:40:56,060 --> 01:40:59,820
get double digit sacks?
Was it?

1968
01:41:00,860 --> 01:41:02,620
Was it?
Ken.

1969
01:41:03,980 --> 01:41:10,700
It was Ken sophomore year.
He had 10 1/2 sacks his

1970
01:41:10,700 --> 01:41:13,380
sophomore year and he had 7 1/2
his senior year.

1971
01:41:13,700 --> 01:41:16,580
It's been a while since we've
had a since we've had a 10 sack

1972
01:41:16,580 --> 01:41:18,900
guy.
You know, I'm hoping.

1973
01:41:18,940 --> 01:41:20,260
I'm hoping that we can get back
to that.

1974
01:41:20,260 --> 01:41:22,220
Pressure in the quarterback is
monumentally important.

1975
01:41:22,220 --> 01:41:25,260
But Kenny Cannon is one of those
guys, man, Kenny Cannon go back

1976
01:41:25,260 --> 01:41:29,180
and watch some film and see how
disruptive he truly was.

1977
01:41:29,220 --> 01:41:31,820
And he benefited a lot as well
with playing with Daddy Nicholas

1978
01:41:31,820 --> 01:41:34,380
too.
So we got to get, got to get

1979
01:41:34,380 --> 01:41:36,220
back to getting to the
quarterback and disrupting up.

1980
01:41:36,380 --> 01:41:38,020
Yeah, when you talk about Kenny
Cannon.

1981
01:41:38,100 --> 01:41:40,420
When you talk about Kenny
Cannon, go watch that Notre Dame

1982
01:41:40,420 --> 01:41:42,740
game.
He was pissed at Notre Dame.

1983
01:41:42,740 --> 01:41:45,540
Yes, he was.
I can't remember what he it was,

1984
01:41:45,540 --> 01:41:48,170
but he was pissed at Notre Dame.
And that's also.

1985
01:41:48,250 --> 01:41:50,570
The thing about Ken.
Yeah.

1986
01:41:50,570 --> 01:41:51,330
Yeah, go ahead.
No.

1987
01:41:51,810 --> 01:41:54,050
I was just going to say, man,
that's also, that's actually a

1988
01:41:54,050 --> 01:41:57,530
great stat, great hokey trivia.
Billy, too, because he's also

1989
01:41:57,530 --> 01:42:00,210
one of those guys that you hear
me always saying you see me

1990
01:42:00,210 --> 01:42:01,770
tweeted by.
He's a Virginia Tech guy like

1991
01:42:01,770 --> 01:42:04,130
Luther.
Maddie is like Jonathan

1992
01:42:04,130 --> 01:42:05,930
McLachlan.
Those guys, especially Ken, he

1993
01:42:05,930 --> 01:42:08,970
was on that Centerville State
championship team that beat

1994
01:42:08,970 --> 01:42:11,850
Oscar Smith at UVA.
They destroyed Oscar Smith.

1995
01:42:11,850 --> 01:42:14,170
That Oscar Smith team featured
JC Coleman.

1996
01:42:14,630 --> 01:42:15,990
The receiver that was a
four-star.

1997
01:42:15,990 --> 01:42:18,430
They also had Andrew Brown who
was a national Gatorade player

1998
01:42:18,430 --> 01:42:21,710
of the year.
And they had another great

1999
01:42:21,710 --> 01:42:24,230
player they they were loaded
with Josh Sweat who went to

2000
01:42:24,230 --> 01:42:26,950
Florida State and Kenya and
Cannon that day was the best

2001
01:42:26,950 --> 01:42:30,190
player on the field and to the
to the national leader.

2002
01:42:30,190 --> 01:42:32,350
He was unknown but he goes to
Virginia Tech and does what

2003
01:42:32,350 --> 01:42:34,190
Billy said.
So shout out to Ken.

2004
01:42:34,190 --> 01:42:35,950
That was a great stat look at
Ben coming on.

2005
01:42:35,950 --> 01:42:41,270
Y'all show.
Billy I like what Luther saying

2006
01:42:41,270 --> 01:42:42,830
though about the interior
because.

2007
01:42:43,550 --> 01:42:46,750
This is my view when I see it.
We talk about a PO, we talk

2008
01:42:46,750 --> 01:42:49,950
about that bend, right.
I think there is going to be so

2009
01:42:49,950 --> 01:42:53,230
much focused attention to him.
The other guys have to eat.

2010
01:42:53,670 --> 01:42:55,910
There's going to be those
opportunities one-on-one.

2011
01:42:55,910 --> 01:42:57,750
There's going to be some
opportunities on the A gap like

2012
01:42:57,750 --> 01:42:59,390
you talking about Kendricks
there, Luther.

2013
01:42:59,670 --> 01:43:04,110
So there are going to the focus
is going to be on them so that

2014
01:43:04,110 --> 01:43:08,510
we're expecting we won't.
We'd love to have somebody, but

2015
01:43:08,510 --> 01:43:11,670
he's going to get the focus now
if he's dominating the Double S

2016
01:43:12,270 --> 01:43:14,320
watch out.
Because the rest of the line

2017
01:43:14,320 --> 01:43:17,440
will leak.
Mr. Vick, I got to ask you a

2018
01:43:17,440 --> 01:43:21,360
question next, my friend.
This staff, obviously we've got

2019
01:43:21,360 --> 01:43:25,640
numerous hokey alumni on board.
You know, you got your Veil

2020
01:43:25,640 --> 01:43:28,160
Winslow as an analyst, we got ex
as an analyst.

2021
01:43:28,160 --> 01:43:31,240
But they're two of your brothers
especially that are sitting in

2022
01:43:31,240 --> 01:43:35,880
the coaching chairs right now,
and that'd be, you know, Kirsten

2023
01:43:35,880 --> 01:43:39,920
Prelude, JC Price, and looking
at coach prize interviews.

2024
01:43:40,710 --> 01:43:43,790
If there's one thing he is
emphasizing to the fan base and

2025
01:43:43,790 --> 01:43:47,550
outsiders as much as reestabine
the relationship, it's

2026
01:43:47,550 --> 01:43:51,190
rebuilding the Virginia Tech
culture and identity.

2027
01:43:51,870 --> 01:43:55,830
How important is it?
And, and you asked Mr. Vic talk

2028
01:43:55,830 --> 01:43:59,470
to y'all can all come in because
you guys all wore that jersey

2029
01:43:59,470 --> 01:44:02,430
and played on that field.
How is important is it to have

2030
01:44:02,430 --> 01:44:06,270
in these alumni on the staff to
set that tone and identity and

2031
01:44:06,270 --> 01:44:09,190
culture from the standpoint of
what it means to be a hokey?

2032
01:44:10,250 --> 01:44:14,650
Well, you know, I feel like, I
feel like when it comes to like

2033
01:44:14,650 --> 01:44:17,410
Virginia Tech football alumni or
even other alumni's, when you

2034
01:44:17,410 --> 01:44:21,490
look at Miami or Tech C&M or
other universities, I feel like

2035
01:44:21,490 --> 01:44:24,210
alumni.
The older you get, the more you

2036
01:44:24,210 --> 01:44:28,370
really want to see the program
stay, you know, stay relevant

2037
01:44:28,370 --> 01:44:31,250
and and and do well because you
know you were part of something

2038
01:44:31,250 --> 01:44:32,570
special.
And you the older you get to

2039
01:44:32,570 --> 01:44:34,890
realize you big that it was
bigger than you.

2040
01:44:34,890 --> 01:44:37,290
You realized, like, Dang
Virginia Tech, I was part of

2041
01:44:37,290 --> 01:44:39,990
something really special.
At the same time, I've always

2042
01:44:40,110 --> 01:44:43,510
been empathetic to the coaches
because the coaches have to

2043
01:44:43,510 --> 01:44:47,670
coach and recruit and keep the
staff and and and now with the

2044
01:44:47,670 --> 01:44:50,430
transport portal and I L there's
so many things they have to do.

2045
01:44:50,670 --> 01:44:54,150
They're CEOI think that's more
you know sometimes the coaches

2046
01:44:54,150 --> 01:44:56,550
get blamed for it or they get
too much criticism.

2047
01:44:56,550 --> 01:45:00,270
I think it's a collective effort
from your AD with with Babcock

2048
01:45:00,270 --> 01:45:03,470
to Sam and all the people that
play a development and

2049
01:45:03,470 --> 01:45:06,150
engagement.
People that make sure that we're

2050
01:45:06,150 --> 01:45:07,870
we're taking care of when we
come back.

2051
01:45:08,330 --> 01:45:10,650
I feel like, you know, a lot of
times we talked about the

2052
01:45:10,650 --> 01:45:14,130
previous regime with Fuente.
I feel like, no, I know.

2053
01:45:14,130 --> 01:45:16,650
I don't feel like I know this.
I think the ball was kind of

2054
01:45:16,650 --> 01:45:19,730
dropped before Fuente got there.
And I've said this before, you

2055
01:45:19,730 --> 01:45:22,490
know, God rest his soul.
Jim Weaver, he came when I was a

2056
01:45:22,490 --> 01:45:24,450
rising senior.
He was a great AD.

2057
01:45:24,770 --> 01:45:27,450
He helped get Tech to the
national championship and he

2058
01:45:27,450 --> 01:45:29,410
said he was going to do that.
He came from Penn State and

2059
01:45:29,410 --> 01:45:31,130
Florida.
He had a vision.

2060
01:45:31,130 --> 01:45:32,730
Him and Beamer had a great
relationship.

2061
01:45:33,770 --> 01:45:37,290
But at the same time when Tech
went into the ACC and after the

2062
01:45:37,290 --> 01:45:39,280
emergence.
With my cousin, you had guys

2063
01:45:39,280 --> 01:45:43,320
like Kevin Jones come in Tyrod,
the program got big and I think,

2064
01:45:43,320 --> 01:45:46,480
you know the program was going
at a faster rate than the

2065
01:45:46,480 --> 01:45:49,880
university was prepared for
because you had so many iconic

2066
01:45:49,880 --> 01:45:52,000
players.
You went into a a conference

2067
01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:54,840
that made more sense
demographically as far as, you

2068
01:45:54,840 --> 01:45:57,960
know, proximity to other schools
and you had the Beamer Ball

2069
01:45:57,960 --> 01:45:59,520
website.
But everything just got really

2070
01:45:59,560 --> 01:46:02,560
big and lost in that was the
player connections, the alumni,

2071
01:46:02,920 --> 01:46:07,880
and all the sudden you got guys
like myself and DJ Parker and.

2072
01:46:08,130 --> 01:46:12,330
Devon Morgan and all these guys
that you can just name from walk

2073
01:46:12,330 --> 01:46:15,370
ONS to everybody that had an
opinion about what tech should

2074
01:46:15,370 --> 01:46:17,610
be doing.
But there was no place to to

2075
01:46:17,610 --> 01:46:22,090
voice that opinion that you had.
You know Kevin Jones, my guy

2076
01:46:22,090 --> 01:46:26,610
connect with Fuente and and wit.
He was more so with wit excuse

2077
01:46:26,610 --> 01:46:28,810
me, not Fuente.
And he was supposed to kind of

2078
01:46:28,810 --> 01:46:32,170
bring us together.
And Chad Beasley put together a

2079
01:46:32,170 --> 01:46:34,850
panel I was part of and it
seemed to be going well, but

2080
01:46:34,850 --> 01:46:39,020
then there was no traction.
Since Pride's come in because

2081
01:46:39,020 --> 01:46:40,740
Pride was there when I was
there.

2082
01:46:40,740 --> 01:46:41,940
We were together for three
years.

2083
01:46:41,940 --> 01:46:46,020
I was there when he was a Gai
think him understanding the

2084
01:46:46,020 --> 01:46:48,900
relationships and I think what
helped him is going away.

2085
01:46:48,900 --> 01:46:51,260
I think when you go away
sometimes at a school like Penn

2086
01:46:51,260 --> 01:46:53,900
State, you get to kind of see
how it's done at other places

2087
01:46:53,900 --> 01:46:56,260
and him coming back, he has
perspective.

2088
01:46:56,260 --> 01:46:59,860
And I think him knowing what how
it was done in 95 in those

2089
01:46:59,860 --> 01:47:02,780
years, he was there and
understanding what was, you

2090
01:47:02,780 --> 01:47:04,780
know, needed to help get the
program.

2091
01:47:05,240 --> 01:47:07,240
Built.
He understands the importance of

2092
01:47:07,240 --> 01:47:12,120
having guys be welcome back and
it's just tough though on on a

2093
01:47:12,120 --> 01:47:16,560
side note because a lot of times
play alumni, everybody has an

2094
01:47:16,560 --> 01:47:17,680
opinion, man.
Everybody.

2095
01:47:17,720 --> 01:47:20,920
You got guys saying we shouldn't
run the spread and everybody's

2096
01:47:20,920 --> 01:47:22,880
got an opinion.
I think when it comes down to

2097
01:47:22,880 --> 01:47:25,000
it, you just got to do the
simple things right.

2098
01:47:25,000 --> 01:47:28,080
There's got to be a systematic
approach in place for guys to be

2099
01:47:28,080 --> 01:47:31,840
able to come back, talk to
players, be on the sideline,

2100
01:47:32,120 --> 01:47:35,170
connect with the fans.
You know, just stay relevant.

2101
01:47:35,170 --> 01:47:38,330
I think sometimes When I spoke
about this about several years

2102
01:47:38,330 --> 01:47:42,850
ago, fans thought we wanted like
a rack of hotel rooms and

2103
01:47:42,850 --> 01:47:46,530
limousines and Cadillac trucks
and and abundance of tickets.

2104
01:47:46,890 --> 01:47:49,130
It wasn't about all of that.
It was just more so about like,

2105
01:47:49,130 --> 01:47:52,130
what is the system?
If I'm coming in town and I who

2106
01:47:52,130 --> 01:47:53,850
do I talk to about getting
tickets?

2107
01:47:54,050 --> 01:47:57,530
Where do we all go if we want to
get together and hang out?

2108
01:47:57,570 --> 01:47:59,090
You know, where do we tailgate
at?

2109
01:47:59,090 --> 01:48:01,850
Is there, you know, because we
were hearing and singing about

2110
01:48:01,850 --> 01:48:04,790
other universities.
That were inferior to Virginia

2111
01:48:04,790 --> 01:48:07,710
Tech that had a better system in
place when it came to player

2112
01:48:07,710 --> 01:48:10,990
alumni.
Now there seems to be Sam and

2113
01:48:10,990 --> 01:48:13,750
all the people that know and
there's you know there's

2114
01:48:13,750 --> 01:48:15,670
communication with the monogram
club.

2115
01:48:16,030 --> 01:48:19,270
And I just think to kind of put
a ball on my point projects

2116
01:48:19,310 --> 01:48:21,950
understands and you can text
them.

2117
01:48:22,390 --> 01:48:25,230
You know when you come you can
come talk to him.

2118
01:48:25,230 --> 01:48:26,910
It's not like you're talking to
a celebrity.

2119
01:48:26,910 --> 01:48:29,310
You can come up to him and talk
to him and he knows what's going

2120
01:48:29,310 --> 01:48:31,350
on.
You know, he he he asked you

2121
01:48:31,350 --> 01:48:34,390
about what's going on, I think.
The players that have played the

2122
01:48:34,390 --> 01:48:38,190
Tech, no matter what era, you
got to make sure that they still

2123
01:48:38,190 --> 01:48:41,110
stay connected because a lot of
times, you know on those Twitter

2124
01:48:41,110 --> 01:48:44,310
spaces that tallies hosted and
other things, we are the voice

2125
01:48:44,670 --> 01:48:47,750
in times of dark periods.
You know that one space when we

2126
01:48:47,750 --> 01:48:52,150
lost last year to ODU, myself,
Lauren Johnson and and a handful

2127
01:48:52,150 --> 01:48:55,110
of guys that played the Tech
were on that and we kind of

2128
01:48:55,110 --> 01:48:58,790
rioted the ship that night and
kept the fan base afloat and

2129
01:48:58,790 --> 01:49:00,390
made sure that everybody didn't
panic.

2130
01:49:00,930 --> 01:49:04,010
And you need guys like that
because, you know, Billy knows

2131
01:49:04,010 --> 01:49:05,930
this, Luca knows this.
We were all in that lock when we

2132
01:49:05,930 --> 01:49:08,210
know how it feels to face
adversity.

2133
01:49:08,210 --> 01:49:11,530
And I think Prague gets it, man.
And you know, I know every time

2134
01:49:11,530 --> 01:49:14,370
I go back I get treated like,
like like with royalty.

2135
01:49:14,370 --> 01:49:16,290
I mean, I was just there in the
spring game, man.

2136
01:49:16,290 --> 01:49:18,850
And I saw a lot of familiar
faces, man.

2137
01:49:18,850 --> 01:49:21,610
And it was, it was, it was just
great to go back and and know

2138
01:49:21,610 --> 01:49:24,010
where I can hang out and see
people.

2139
01:49:24,010 --> 01:49:26,970
And The Sun's The Saturday.
They do a great job of having

2140
01:49:26,970 --> 01:49:28,010
parties.
And.

2141
01:49:28,860 --> 01:49:30,620
It's just a lot of guys are
coming back, man.

2142
01:49:30,620 --> 01:49:33,540
Still work to do to get
everybody back, but more guys

2143
01:49:33,540 --> 01:49:36,740
are wanting to come back.
I know the NC State game, I

2144
01:49:36,740 --> 01:49:40,020
believe that's the weekend Corey
Moore goes into the Hall of

2145
01:49:40,020 --> 01:49:42,460
Fame.
So you're going to see a lot of

2146
01:49:42,460 --> 01:49:44,660
us back in town for that.
We've already been planning to

2147
01:49:44,700 --> 01:49:47,020
talking about that's going to
be, that's going to be, that's

2148
01:49:47,020 --> 01:49:49,980
going to be a great weekend.
Yeah, that's going to be a big

2149
01:49:49,980 --> 01:49:51,900
one.
And you talk about it like you

2150
01:49:51,940 --> 01:49:55,060
know, in the locker room, you
know on Twitter, you know people

2151
01:49:55,060 --> 01:49:58,300
always are looking for.
For leaders and how leaders are

2152
01:49:58,300 --> 01:50:01,380
reacting when things aren't
going well, right.

2153
01:50:01,380 --> 01:50:03,580
So you talked about the space
after the ODU game.

2154
01:50:03,980 --> 01:50:07,420
You know having guys like you
and LJ and some others that were

2155
01:50:07,420 --> 01:50:10,740
in there not just talking folks
off the ledge but kind of

2156
01:50:10,740 --> 01:50:13,700
speaking some knowledge about
having experienced that

2157
01:50:13,700 --> 01:50:16,860
adversity on the field and and
having come from that and and

2158
01:50:16,860 --> 01:50:19,100
built something and and and
built it in something bigger

2159
01:50:19,100 --> 01:50:20,620
than yourself.
So I think that's big.

2160
01:50:21,020 --> 01:50:22,620
We're going to pivot a little
bit here.

2161
01:50:23,380 --> 01:50:26,260
We got a got a question that was
actually put on.

2162
01:50:26,720 --> 01:50:30,560
Before we kind of hit hit the
record tonight, Glenn with one

2163
01:50:30,560 --> 01:50:37,040
in at GJPV TO9 on Twitter.
He he he reached out to us.

2164
01:50:37,040 --> 01:50:39,880
I thought this was a perfect one
for this segment since, you

2165
01:50:39,880 --> 01:50:43,360
know, we got we got guys in here
that have played, but sometimes

2166
01:50:43,360 --> 01:50:48,400
fans also have these as well.
What are some of your game day

2167
01:50:48,400 --> 01:50:52,720
or pregame rituals that you had
to do either before you played

2168
01:50:52,720 --> 01:50:55,280
or before you watch a football
game, whether it's live or on

2169
01:50:55,280 --> 01:50:59,050
TV?
And let's kick it to let's kick

2170
01:50:59,050 --> 01:51:00,490
it to Luther first.
What you got, Luther?

2171
01:51:02,090 --> 01:51:05,850
I'm trying to thank pre Grams.
I had a I had a couple of days

2172
01:51:05,930 --> 01:51:08,610
of.
I used to be a big lifesaver

2173
01:51:08,730 --> 01:51:12,930
there, so I had to eat a couple
packs of lifesavers the night

2174
01:51:12,930 --> 01:51:15,090
before the game.
So I used to tear those down

2175
01:51:15,090 --> 01:51:17,290
that before the game and be
going.

2176
01:51:17,290 --> 01:51:22,050
And in my first couple of years,
I used to always make fairly

2177
01:51:22,050 --> 01:51:24,490
high, like when he was an
Allamerican.

2178
01:51:25,790 --> 01:51:28,270
Player between him and Marcus,
where I just love the way they

2179
01:51:28,270 --> 01:51:31,790
rushed the pass.
So like the highlights every

2180
01:51:31,990 --> 01:51:35,390
single game right before we go
out to go extract.

2181
01:51:36,310 --> 01:51:39,470
But yeah, that's what I can so I
can fix everything and just

2182
01:51:39,470 --> 01:51:41,110
watch those guys highlights
before we got out.

2183
01:51:41,110 --> 01:51:43,270
Nice.
Billy, what you got?

2184
01:51:44,390 --> 01:51:46,550
Yeah, I mean, usually, usually
what I was trying to do is get

2185
01:51:46,550 --> 01:51:49,190
myself ready to handle Corey
Marshall and Luther Maddie,

2186
01:51:49,190 --> 01:51:52,150
that's what I was trying to.
Primarily getting ready to do

2187
01:51:52,150 --> 01:51:54,470
which is.
I'd say is about as challenging

2188
01:51:54,470 --> 01:51:59,350
as as anything but two weird
things that I would do before

2189
01:51:59,350 --> 01:52:02,030
high school games.
I would walk down and I would

2190
01:52:02,110 --> 01:52:05,510
I'd walk like 2 miles to go
watch Westwood High School play

2191
01:52:05,830 --> 01:52:09,190
and I would always whether it be
before games and honestly before

2192
01:52:09,190 --> 01:52:11,170
practice the.
I'm a little weird.

2193
01:52:11,250 --> 01:52:13,450
I'll listen to movie
soundtracks.

2194
01:52:13,570 --> 01:52:16,290
So I I was big on listening to
like the Friday Night Lights

2195
01:52:16,570 --> 01:52:20,050
soundtracks and Braveheart.
Those are the couple things that

2196
01:52:20,050 --> 01:52:24,810
I do now and then I guess as a
as a as a fan or as somebody

2197
01:52:24,810 --> 01:52:27,650
going to watch.
I got the same route every time

2198
01:52:27,650 --> 01:52:31,130
I leave the German club.
I go on down, see Rob Sipulla

2199
01:52:31,130 --> 01:52:34,370
and the guys in Lot 2 and and
get on over to get on over to

2200
01:52:34,370 --> 01:52:36,570
Section 5.
So that was kind of my kind of

2201
01:52:36,570 --> 01:52:39,890
my routine.
So Billy, was the any Given

2202
01:52:39,890 --> 01:52:41,610
Sunday soundtrack in that
rotation?

2203
01:52:41,850 --> 01:52:43,690
Was Al Pacino hyping you up
before you went out?

2204
01:52:43,730 --> 01:52:45,210
There.
Honestly, I gotta tell you, that

2205
01:52:45,210 --> 01:52:46,690
movie didn't really do it for
me.

2206
01:52:46,770 --> 01:52:47,650
I wasn't.
I wasn't.

2207
01:52:47,730 --> 01:52:49,050
Really big.
I wasn't really big.

2208
01:52:49,130 --> 01:52:51,450
On that movie.
I love, I love Friday Night

2209
01:52:51,450 --> 01:52:52,890
Lights.
I loved Miracle.

2210
01:52:53,050 --> 01:52:55,490
I just I, you know, being from
New Jersey.

2211
01:52:55,950 --> 01:52:58,910
And seeing all the other Al
Pacino movies, I'm like, look,

2212
01:52:59,030 --> 01:53:04,830
Al Pacino.
You don't want to claw with the

2213
01:53:04,950 --> 01:53:06,110
fingernails for the edge,
though.

2214
01:53:00,150 --> 01:53:01,870
Al Pacino is supposed to be a
mobster.

2215
01:53:01,870 --> 01:53:06,950
He's not supposed to be a.
No.

2216
01:53:08,510 --> 01:53:10,630
In high school at Paramus
Catholic, they always used to

2217
01:53:10,630 --> 01:53:14,350
play this like Eminem matchup of
the of the.

2218
01:53:15,430 --> 01:53:17,910
And then at the very beginning,
they had the Al Pacino speech

2219
01:53:17,910 --> 01:53:20,550
and it was always, you know, I'd
throw my headphones on until.

2220
01:53:20,550 --> 01:53:23,750
Until that part, Yeah, you ain't
watching any given Sunday for Al

2221
01:53:23,750 --> 01:53:26,070
Pacino.
You watch any any Given Sunday

2222
01:53:26,350 --> 01:53:30,590
for Willie Beeman?
That's what Jamie fuck.

2223
01:53:31,350 --> 01:53:33,030
It's hard to get football movies
right, man.

2224
01:53:33,030 --> 01:53:34,190
Not a lot of, not a lot of
people.

2225
01:53:34,190 --> 01:53:37,310
Get that, get that one. 100%
what about you, The white?

2226
01:53:37,790 --> 01:53:40,510
You know, I'm a movie guy, man.
So I'm looking at Billy, man.

2227
01:53:40,510 --> 01:53:42,390
I'm just tripping.
I saw somebody comment about

2228
01:53:42,390 --> 01:53:47,230
Varsity Blues but.
You know man you got to you got

2229
01:53:47,230 --> 01:53:49,470
to take me back man.
I tell you guys how much I love

2230
01:53:49,470 --> 01:53:51,510
being in Blacksburg in Southwest
Virginia man.

2231
01:53:52,070 --> 01:53:54,310
Thursday nights my last couple
of years at tech.

2232
01:53:54,430 --> 01:53:57,110
You know I read short of my
first year we would Derrick

2233
01:53:57,110 --> 01:54:00,510
Smith myself a lot of us
alignment we would go to this is

2234
01:54:00,510 --> 01:54:03,110
before a really Christiansburg
and Blacksburg really blew up.

2235
01:54:03,510 --> 01:54:05,670
We would go to Outback
Steakhouse and just have a

2236
01:54:05,710 --> 01:54:09,470
dinner and just talk especially
no home more world games.

2237
01:54:09,470 --> 01:54:12,230
We would do it before we travel
and we would just go have dinner

2238
01:54:12,230 --> 01:54:14,960
together, man.
First, first string and second

2239
01:54:14,960 --> 01:54:17,800
string, just talk, hang out,
fellowship, just talk about

2240
01:54:17,800 --> 01:54:19,360
everything, man.
We were so close.

2241
01:54:19,360 --> 01:54:22,200
We're still close now.
And that was just something I

2242
01:54:22,200 --> 01:54:24,240
did.
And then I would just, you know,

2243
01:54:24,320 --> 01:54:25,760
a lot of times I kept it simple,
man.

2244
01:54:25,760 --> 01:54:27,440
I loved you guys that really
know me.

2245
01:54:27,440 --> 01:54:30,200
See me on Twitter or even the IG
or Facebook.

2246
01:54:30,200 --> 01:54:33,120
I love to laugh.
So I would kind of take my mind

2247
01:54:33,120 --> 01:54:34,800
away from the game and find a
movie.

2248
01:54:34,800 --> 01:54:36,640
I'm a movie guy.
I would watch movies, especially

2249
01:54:37,000 --> 01:54:39,400
funny movies or just something.
Listen to music.

2250
01:54:39,400 --> 01:54:41,800
I'm still a music guy.
And then?

2251
01:54:42,290 --> 01:54:44,530
I'm spiritual.
I'm not overly religious, but

2252
01:54:44,530 --> 01:54:48,290
like I would always just
meditate and and and read

2253
01:54:48,610 --> 01:54:50,970
scripture.
I would pray for hell and and

2254
01:54:51,050 --> 01:54:53,410
and I did that every every week
before a game.

2255
01:54:53,410 --> 01:54:55,530
That was my ritual.
And the last thing I did,

2256
01:54:55,530 --> 01:54:58,770
especially the last two years,
you know, you guys were talking

2257
01:54:58,770 --> 01:55:00,890
about, you know, the other
night, you know, just just now

2258
01:55:00,890 --> 01:55:04,930
being married, my girlfriend,
now my wife, been married 22

2259
01:55:04,930 --> 01:55:07,610
years, been together 26 and I
met at tech.

2260
01:55:08,160 --> 01:55:11,160
So like every night when I got
to the hotel, whether we played

2261
01:55:11,160 --> 01:55:14,080
at home or on the road, she
would write me a letter.

2262
01:55:14,200 --> 01:55:17,120
Like a motivational letter would
be in my black travel bag.

2263
01:55:17,480 --> 01:55:20,560
So I, you know, we checked in
whether we had Boston College or

2264
01:55:20,560 --> 01:55:22,960
whatever, Like you know, you
have your black bag.

2265
01:55:22,960 --> 01:55:27,840
I have that I kept and I would
get in my hotel and get settled.

2266
01:55:27,880 --> 01:55:28,960
You know, we had meeting and
stuff.

2267
01:55:29,320 --> 01:55:31,560
And before I went to bed the
night before the game, I always

2268
01:55:31,560 --> 01:55:35,240
read a letter that she wrote me
and it would just she she just.

2269
01:55:35,830 --> 01:55:37,550
She just knew what to say and
what to write.

2270
01:55:37,550 --> 01:55:40,550
And I, you know, I would read
that letter and I would be good

2271
01:55:40,950 --> 01:55:43,950
And you know and and Luther and
Billy know this man when you and

2272
01:55:43,950 --> 01:55:46,670
when you're coached well and you
and you're ready to play.

2273
01:55:47,350 --> 01:55:49,150
I was never nervous.
I'm out.

2274
01:55:49,150 --> 01:55:51,670
I'll be anxious.
But I was never nervous even

2275
01:55:51,670 --> 01:55:53,950
against some tough competition
because I played against some

2276
01:55:53,950 --> 01:55:56,150
dogs.
So those are my rituals, man.

2277
01:55:56,150 --> 01:55:59,910
Donna, you know, laughing,
hanging out with the boys and

2278
01:55:59,910 --> 01:56:03,070
and just getting my, my mental,
my spiritual right man because.

2279
01:56:03,850 --> 01:56:06,210
You know, I think the play old
line, you got to be locked in,

2280
01:56:06,210 --> 01:56:09,650
you could be aggressive but
gotta got to be locked in too

2281
01:56:10,490 --> 01:56:13,930
so.
Dwight I think that taps into

2282
01:56:13,930 --> 01:56:16,570
something that I think is going
to be a huge difference for this

2283
01:56:16,570 --> 01:56:22,650
team this year is when you're
not having to worry about what

2284
01:56:22,650 --> 01:56:26,610
your responsibilities are, what
exactly you're having to do on

2285
01:56:26,610 --> 01:56:29,850
every single play, where you
line up what your responsibility

2286
01:56:29,850 --> 01:56:32,600
is.
That is going to remove if if

2287
01:56:32,600 --> 01:56:35,560
we're getting into that point
where in year two of this system

2288
01:56:35,880 --> 01:56:38,680
and if we've simplified some of
this stuff up front and all they

2289
01:56:38,680 --> 01:56:41,960
need to worry about is going out
and playing and beating the guy

2290
01:56:41,960 --> 01:56:43,760
in front of them.
I think that'll make a huge

2291
01:56:43,760 --> 01:56:46,960
difference for this group
because last year, from from

2292
01:56:46,960 --> 01:56:49,200
from the top down, it just
looked.

2293
01:56:49,600 --> 01:56:53,080
It looks like people were still
learning exactly where to be,

2294
01:56:53,080 --> 01:56:58,480
where to line up, how to, how to
handle end of clock situations,

2295
01:56:58,480 --> 01:57:00,860
and.
You know, Coach Pride's been

2296
01:57:00,860 --> 01:57:03,300
very transparent and I really
appreciate that about him about

2297
01:57:03,300 --> 01:57:05,020
just being like, look like we're
learning here.

2298
01:57:05,020 --> 01:57:06,580
A couple things that I can get
better at.

2299
01:57:06,820 --> 01:57:09,300
Here are a couple things that I
have changed for, you know,

2300
01:57:09,500 --> 01:57:12,740
myself to handle this better.
And if that happens from the top

2301
01:57:12,740 --> 01:57:15,900
down and everyone just worried
about going out there and doing

2302
01:57:15,900 --> 01:57:18,100
the best they possibly can
without having to worry about if

2303
01:57:18,100 --> 01:57:19,900
the guy next to him is going to
go the right way.

2304
01:57:20,470 --> 01:57:23,110
I think, I think that'll go.
I think that'll go a long way.

2305
01:57:23,430 --> 01:57:25,390
Billy that that, that's.
Leading into one of the

2306
01:57:25,390 --> 01:57:27,390
questions we actually have for
y'all group, so I'm going to

2307
01:57:27,390 --> 01:57:29,950
just roll right into it.
We talked about this a lot and

2308
01:57:29,950 --> 01:57:33,030
you guys playing line, it
definitely is probably going to

2309
01:57:33,030 --> 01:57:37,550
hit here, but we've got, you
know we wore them maroon and

2310
01:57:37,630 --> 01:57:41,070
orange glasses we do.
But our assessment last year,

2311
01:57:41,070 --> 01:57:43,870
the offense was almost it was,
from a schemes perspective, too

2312
01:57:43,870 --> 01:57:45,630
many coach.
You effectively had three

2313
01:57:45,630 --> 01:57:49,350
offensive coordinators in the
room right when it ran it.

2314
01:57:49,850 --> 01:57:53,890
Joe Rudolph and ran his Boeing
first time but had been an

2315
01:57:53,890 --> 01:57:58,050
offensive coordinator for a few
games down at Penn State and now

2316
01:57:58,050 --> 01:58:00,290
you've got the two guys who are
the offensive coordinators are

2317
01:58:00,290 --> 01:58:03,850
gone and so two parter.
Do y'all agree with the

2318
01:58:03,850 --> 01:58:05,370
assessment?
There were probably too many

2319
01:58:05,370 --> 01:58:08,130
cooks in the kitchen last year
when it comes to the offense.

2320
01:58:08,610 --> 01:58:12,810
And what type of benefits do you
think we'll see?

2321
01:58:13,050 --> 01:58:14,530
Now?
They're just all it's all Boeing

2322
01:58:14,530 --> 01:58:19,320
show.
Yeah, I I I definitely think so

2323
01:58:19,320 --> 01:58:25,360
100% agree it's the average only
what, 19 points a game, a little

2324
01:58:25,360 --> 01:58:28,440
bit over 300 yards per game,
both, you know the lowest and

2325
01:58:28,440 --> 01:58:30,720
the ACC last year.
I think a part of that is

2326
01:58:30,720 --> 01:58:32,160
because they had so many cooks
in the kitchen.

2327
01:58:32,160 --> 01:58:35,960
Also, to Billy's point, guys
just didn't know what one of the

2328
01:58:36,120 --> 01:58:40,480
dearness out there, right for
Born to be able to talk to Wells

2329
01:58:40,480 --> 01:58:43,200
like on a daily basis and he
there's no middleman in between

2330
01:58:43,200 --> 01:58:46,240
the communications.
I think these guys improve

2331
01:58:46,240 --> 01:58:48,870
drastically.
In connection to, you know, the

2332
01:58:48,870 --> 01:58:50,950
guys that came out of receiver,
obviously we'll touch on that a

2333
01:58:50,950 --> 01:58:53,510
little bit later.
I think with all that coming

2334
01:58:53,510 --> 01:58:56,550
together, you should offense
this ship when you have most

2335
01:58:56,670 --> 01:58:59,150
talking and you know you got, we
all played a tough one game when

2336
01:58:59,150 --> 01:59:01,310
we're younger.
You know, once it gets from

2337
01:59:01,310 --> 01:59:05,110
point to point, I get it.
It's just kind of swirled down a

2338
01:59:05,110 --> 01:59:07,190
little bit.
So to kind of get from, you

2339
01:59:07,190 --> 01:59:09,430
know, him talking straight to
Wells on a daytoday basis, I

2340
01:59:09,430 --> 01:59:10,950
think that'd be big for this
offense.

2341
01:59:12,790 --> 01:59:14,390
Look, it's not.
I'm not.

2342
01:59:14,390 --> 01:59:19,470
I'm not comparing Coach Bowen
and Coach Glenn and and Coach

2343
01:59:19,470 --> 01:59:22,150
Rudolph to Kyrie Irving, Kevin
Durant and.

2344
01:59:22,150 --> 01:59:23,630
James Harden.
But.

2345
01:59:24,270 --> 01:59:26,950
At the end of the day at the end
of the day, they're only you

2346
01:59:26,950 --> 01:59:28,430
know, you can only have so many
opinions.

2347
01:59:28,430 --> 01:59:30,110
There are only so many
basketballs and there are only

2348
01:59:30,110 --> 01:59:32,950
so many microphones on the
sideline to to have guys

2349
01:59:32,950 --> 01:59:35,990
analyzing stuff and and what
really bothers me because

2350
01:59:35,990 --> 01:59:38,230
because people do this all the
time and and there's no way that

2351
01:59:38,230 --> 01:59:40,230
I'm going to get on a podcast
without talking about some of

2352
01:59:40,230 --> 01:59:43,630
the ridiculous things that that
that that hokey fans do.

2353
01:59:44,120 --> 01:59:47,200
Is the offensive line is poor
last year and then the

2354
01:59:47,200 --> 01:59:50,200
conversation shifts to Will
coach Rudolph sucks.

2355
01:59:50,240 --> 01:59:52,240
Will coach Rudolph has coach 9
Allamericans.

2356
01:59:52,240 --> 01:59:54,920
He's produced 9 draft picks.
He was an offensive coordinator

2357
01:59:54,920 --> 01:59:57,600
Pittsburgh during James Connors
2014 campaign.

2358
01:59:57,880 --> 02:00:00,840
I think it's really simple.
Too many cooks in the kitchen,

2359
02:00:00,960 --> 02:00:03,520
too many different philosophies
trying to fit them all together

2360
02:00:03,520 --> 02:00:06,280
at once and then everybody.
If it wasn't coach Rudolph's

2361
02:00:06,280 --> 02:00:07,560
fault, it was coach Bowen's
fault.

2362
02:00:07,560 --> 02:00:11,240
Or is Grant Wells fault?
It isn't one person's fault at

2363
02:00:11,240 --> 02:00:14,260
all.
It's just understanding what we

2364
02:00:14,260 --> 02:00:16,780
need to do and understand the
guy next to you is going to get

2365
02:00:16,780 --> 02:00:19,660
the job done.
And I'm the quarterback thing.

2366
02:00:19,660 --> 02:00:20,980
Everybody wants to guess who it
is.

2367
02:00:21,300 --> 02:00:24,300
Look, if it's Grant Wells, he's
going to be better than he was

2368
02:00:24,300 --> 02:00:26,140
last year.
Go ahead and watch some of his

2369
02:00:26,140 --> 02:00:27,620
Marshall film.
He's going to be better.

2370
02:00:27,860 --> 02:00:30,100
If it's going to be Kieran
Jones, he's going to be the most

2371
02:00:30,100 --> 02:00:32,100
athletic quarterback we've had
in a long time.

2372
02:00:32,380 --> 02:00:36,630
If it's both, then it's both.
But I do think that we're going

2373
02:00:36,630 --> 02:00:38,110
to take a step in the right
there.

2374
02:00:43,470 --> 02:00:39,710
That's fair.
There's no, there's no way you

2375
02:00:39,710 --> 02:00:41,710
can go backwards.
So I think we're, I think we're

2376
02:00:41,710 --> 02:00:43,350
going to take, I think we're
going to take a step at the.

2377
02:00:44,110 --> 02:00:45,350
That's fair.
Dwight, what do you got?

2378
02:00:46,110 --> 02:00:49,030
I I just felt, I mean Billy and
and Luther make great points.

2379
02:00:49,030 --> 02:00:51,070
You know, Billy's point is well
taken.

2380
02:00:51,670 --> 02:00:53,990
I just feel like when I watched
the offense last year, I don't

2381
02:00:53,990 --> 02:00:56,950
know, always do it, but I do it
a lot during games.

2382
02:00:56,990 --> 02:00:59,630
I live tweet and I would tweet
sometimes.

2383
02:00:59,950 --> 02:01:01,150
Like I remember we were playing
the game.

2384
02:01:01,150 --> 02:01:02,710
I don't know who it was.
Might have been Georgia Tech or

2385
02:01:02,710 --> 02:01:04,430
somebody.
And I was like that's a great

2386
02:01:04,430 --> 02:01:08,230
call but the backside offensive
a guard tackle and tight and

2387
02:01:08,230 --> 02:01:10,910
missed their blocks and people
you know on Twitter like that's

2388
02:01:10,910 --> 02:01:13,470
a terrible when you call that
I'm like if you go back I saw it

2389
02:01:13,470 --> 02:01:16,390
live because my son and my kids
and my friends laugh at me

2390
02:01:16,390 --> 02:01:18,510
because when I watch the game I
watch the old line and D live

2391
02:01:18,910 --> 02:01:21,310
and then I look at the offense
the receivers and all of that.

2392
02:01:21,670 --> 02:01:24,630
And I would always tweet like,
you know gosh our interior got

2393
02:01:24,630 --> 02:01:28,310
killed in C state game we were
getting destroyed in the in the

2394
02:01:28,310 --> 02:01:29,870
interior when it came to blitz
pick up.

2395
02:01:30,150 --> 02:01:33,070
But people, to Billy's point,
were blaming Wales.

2396
02:01:33,440 --> 02:01:36,640
So when I came on Twitter space,
I kept saying guys, you got to

2397
02:01:36,640 --> 02:01:39,080
look at the whole picture, but
it's not natural for the average

2398
02:01:39,080 --> 02:01:42,040
to casual fan to watch the
offensive line.

2399
02:01:42,440 --> 02:01:45,280
And they it's just quick to
blame them on you know, when

2400
02:01:45,280 --> 02:01:47,080
it's a holding call.
But we don't look at the whole

2401
02:01:47,080 --> 02:01:49,320
thing.
Yes, there were too many people,

2402
02:01:49,320 --> 02:01:52,560
too many cooks in the kitchen,
and on top of it, you know,

2403
02:01:52,560 --> 02:01:55,720
similar to, you know what I've
been saying for from day one,

2404
02:01:55,720 --> 02:01:58,480
the two things that stood out
with me with tech over the last

2405
02:01:58,480 --> 02:02:01,920
handful of years is.
No identity and not knowing how

2406
02:02:01,920 --> 02:02:03,680
to win and make game when in
place.

2407
02:02:04,040 --> 02:02:06,640
And you know, we can talk about
all these coaches, the winning

2408
02:02:06,640 --> 02:02:10,280
the press conferences and
kissing babies and and going to

2409
02:02:10,280 --> 02:02:14,480
tournaments and you know, doing
the electric slide at the fish

2410
02:02:14,480 --> 02:02:17,560
fries.
But players got to make plays.

2411
02:02:17,880 --> 02:02:21,880
Listen, you talk about Luther,
Maddie, Luther, Maddie and Corey

2412
02:02:21,880 --> 02:02:23,440
Marshall.
I remember shout out to Corey

2413
02:02:23,440 --> 02:02:25,720
Marshall.
They were dogs, Daddy Nicholas,

2414
02:02:25,720 --> 02:02:27,920
all those guys.
We can go down the list on the

2415
02:02:27,920 --> 02:02:31,540
old line and D line.
You know Jonathan McLaughlin he

2416
02:02:31,540 --> 02:02:33,300
was, you know, people talk about
that Trey.

2417
02:02:33,460 --> 02:02:36,220
Trey Edmonds run against Alabama
when he ran for 70 yards.

2418
02:02:36,500 --> 02:02:40,100
Go look at the kick out block.
Jonathan McLaughlin had that

2419
02:02:40,100 --> 02:02:43,980
sprung Trey and and Jonathan was
a freshman playing against

2420
02:02:43,980 --> 02:02:46,180
Alabama.
So those are small things.

2421
02:02:46,180 --> 02:02:49,380
I look at that, people look at
Trey Edmonds now and he was a

2422
02:02:49,380 --> 02:02:51,540
great bat during those times
attack, but.

2423
02:02:51,980 --> 02:02:54,380
The old line was good.
You know when you got guys like

2424
02:02:54,380 --> 02:02:57,420
Jonathan and Wyatt Teller it
makes a play called easier

2425
02:02:57,620 --> 02:03:00,340
because you have players that
know what they're doing and and

2426
02:03:00,340 --> 02:03:03,100
sometimes in many cases football
players got to be plays.

2427
02:03:03,420 --> 02:03:05,580
I look at the West Virginia
game, we had West Virginia, the

2428
02:03:05,580 --> 02:03:08,140
defense was playing great.
On Thursday night, the first

2429
02:03:08,140 --> 02:03:11,340
quarter into the second we were,
we were West Virginia, that

2430
02:03:11,340 --> 02:03:13,020
powerful offense, they were
sputtering.

2431
02:03:13,140 --> 02:03:17,060
We had momentum.
We had three non routes drop

2432
02:03:17,060 --> 02:03:20,300
passes including one of them hit
the receiver in the helmet.

2433
02:03:20,420 --> 02:03:24,060
Helmet.
OK, so if you get those 3

2434
02:03:24,060 --> 02:03:25,900
touchdowns, you're up 21.
Nothing.

2435
02:03:26,300 --> 02:03:28,860
It changes.
So you can criticize and

2436
02:03:28,860 --> 02:03:30,780
whatever.
I'm not giving the the, the

2437
02:03:30,780 --> 02:03:33,620
coaches, the past.
I'm saying that Billy and and

2438
02:03:33,620 --> 02:03:36,260
Luther are right.
But I also feel like the players

2439
02:03:36,260 --> 02:03:39,740
have to make plays, You know,
it's just the way it is.

2440
02:03:40,100 --> 02:03:43,740
And you know, I think to to this
point, we'll have a better

2441
02:03:43,740 --> 02:03:46,060
understanding of what the
identity is when the season

2442
02:03:46,060 --> 02:03:51,110
starts because this is Year 2.
And you know and and you said

2443
02:03:51,110 --> 02:03:54,630
last night on my show Curtis
that 40% of roster from last

2444
02:03:54,670 --> 02:03:57,350
year's been turned over.
You have more guys coming in

2445
02:03:58,750 --> 02:04:01,310
even though it's year two that
actually it will have a better

2446
02:04:01,310 --> 02:04:03,750
idea.
And I said I said this on many

2447
02:04:03,750 --> 02:04:06,870
platforms I was on.
I felt like the newer guys, the

2448
02:04:06,870 --> 02:04:09,510
young guys were more confident
than the guys have been there

2449
02:04:09,510 --> 02:04:12,230
the last three or four years
when it came to making plays on

2450
02:04:12,230 --> 02:04:15,790
both sides of the ball.
To that point, Dwight, it the

2451
02:04:15,790 --> 02:04:20,040
entire season there was one game
that was kind of the defense

2452
02:04:20,120 --> 02:04:21,600
had.
The problem that the offense had

2453
02:04:21,600 --> 02:04:25,200
all season was the defense is
not getting enough credit for

2454
02:04:25,200 --> 02:04:28,640
how well they played last year
for the fact that they were on

2455
02:04:28,640 --> 02:04:32,640
the field for 65 to 75% of the
game in every.

2456
02:04:33,600 --> 02:04:36,120
Field.
A lot like the only game,

2457
02:04:36,120 --> 02:04:38,840
really, that the Defense didn't
hold up their end of the bargain

2458
02:04:38,840 --> 02:04:41,280
was Pittsburgh.
Because Israel, the Band of

2459
02:04:41,280 --> 02:04:43,640
Canada did whatever he wanted.
But, and it was only about four

2460
02:04:43,640 --> 02:04:45,240
players that game.
Exactly.

2461
02:04:46,280 --> 02:04:50,340
At the end of the day, like, I I
really think that what Virginia

2462
02:04:50,340 --> 02:04:53,540
Tech can hang their hat on is
kind of what made them great in

2463
02:04:53,540 --> 02:04:58,300
the 2000s and into the, you
know, the around 2010 was find a

2464
02:04:58,300 --> 02:05:01,780
way where the offense can stay
on the field long enough, put up

2465
02:05:01,780 --> 02:05:04,700
enough points and rely on your
defense, which has a lot of

2466
02:05:04,700 --> 02:05:06,700
talent.
And I thought I'm on record for

2467
02:05:06,700 --> 02:05:09,940
saying I think Coach Marvin is
going to be a star just based

2468
02:05:09,940 --> 02:05:12,220
upon his the way that he carries
himself.

2469
02:05:12,940 --> 02:05:15,060
He look, he did a great job in
the Liberty game.

2470
02:05:15,430 --> 02:05:18,190
If the offense can avoid three
and out, three and out, three

2471
02:05:18,190 --> 02:05:21,310
and out and give the defense a
chance to catch their breath,

2472
02:05:21,590 --> 02:05:23,630
that's going to make a
tremendous difference next year

2473
02:05:23,830 --> 02:05:25,230
if they can just find a way to
do that.

2474
02:05:26,110 --> 02:05:28,310
Facts.
Definitely, man.

2475
02:05:28,990 --> 02:05:32,110
It's it's great man, to have
this panel, to have so many

2476
02:05:32,590 --> 02:05:37,630
like, educated analysis coming
in, man, it's it's awesome.

2477
02:05:37,710 --> 02:05:40,260
I'm sitting here.
Giddy you know what I'm saying?

2478
02:05:40,620 --> 02:05:43,580
Just listening to that listening
to that what Charles is saying,

2479
02:05:43,580 --> 02:05:46,260
we're going to go to something a
little different, what we want

2480
02:05:46,260 --> 02:05:49,060
to talk about, you know I think
Dwight said talking about year

2481
02:05:49,060 --> 02:05:54,420
2, how we need to look in year
two, closing out winning plays

2482
02:05:54,420 --> 02:05:56,740
things like that the month of
November.

2483
02:05:56,820 --> 02:05:59,820
So the end of the season looks
like we got Rd. trips to

2484
02:06:00,180 --> 02:06:04,660
Louisville, Chestnut Hill and
Lane Stadium N you know we we go

2485
02:06:04,660 --> 02:06:07,180
play those games at the end of
the year and.

2486
02:06:09,020 --> 02:06:11,740
We're not favored to win right
now on some of those games, but

2487
02:06:11,740 --> 02:06:14,820
they look like pretty winnable
games if you look at it on

2488
02:06:14,820 --> 02:06:17,660
paper, not teams that we should
be scared of.

2489
02:06:18,540 --> 02:06:23,700
I want to say, how do y'all feel
about Coach Pryor closing out on

2490
02:06:23,860 --> 02:06:27,700
on winnable games wrapping up
this year, which will be his

2491
02:06:27,700 --> 02:06:32,940
year too.
You know I I.

2492
02:06:34,640 --> 02:06:38,720
I I I every year he even when I
played but especially now that

2493
02:06:38,720 --> 02:06:41,760
I'm doing all this stuff in the
media and and and you know

2494
02:06:41,880 --> 02:06:43,960
running my mouth and tweeting
and doing all different things.

2495
02:06:43,960 --> 02:06:46,920
I do always I'm not and this is
not you Charlie.

2496
02:06:46,920 --> 02:06:50,160
I just laugh at some of my
followers and fans that tagged

2497
02:06:50,160 --> 02:06:52,720
and they said oh these in this
schedule this is easy.

2498
02:06:52,720 --> 02:06:55,920
I I have never there was
probably a couple of games in my

2499
02:06:55,920 --> 02:07:00,040
5 years at tag even as a red
shirt when I was just backing up

2500
02:07:00,040 --> 02:07:01,520
people not going to play when I
was okay.

2501
02:07:01,520 --> 02:07:04,190
Yeah, this will be a blowout.
But it was very few.

2502
02:07:04,190 --> 02:07:09,070
There is, you know, until
Virginia Tech, this team, this

2503
02:07:09,150 --> 02:07:13,110
era and and I love pride.
But until they understand and

2504
02:07:13,110 --> 02:07:18,870
learn how to win there is no
such thing as a game that that

2505
02:07:18,870 --> 02:07:20,990
they should walk in and be like,
yes, a Gimme.

2506
02:07:20,990 --> 02:07:24,510
I think one thing I remember
when Virginia Tech went into the

2507
02:07:24,510 --> 02:07:29,150
ACC in 2004 and 2003, they had a
loaded team.

2508
02:07:29,190 --> 02:07:32,070
This is a team that featured
Jake Grove, Ernest Wilford.

2509
02:07:32,720 --> 02:07:36,240
Brian Randall, I mean.
Vegas Robinson, that team.

2510
02:07:37,080 --> 02:07:39,160
Yeah.
KJ, Kevin Jones, One of them.

2511
02:07:39,280 --> 02:07:41,440
Just arguably, and we can.
I'm not going to argue with you

2512
02:07:41,440 --> 02:07:45,400
guys, but you can argue the most
talented team on paper in

2513
02:07:45,400 --> 02:07:47,800
Virginia Tech history.
They started off the year

2514
02:07:47,800 --> 02:07:49,920
amazing.
They went at Texas A and M back

2515
02:07:49,920 --> 02:07:52,440
when you did not win that text A
and M okay.

2516
02:07:52,480 --> 02:07:54,240
They beat LSU.
They were loaded.

2517
02:07:54,920 --> 02:07:57,360
And then that year they
crumbled, losing to Boston

2518
02:07:57,360 --> 02:07:59,440
College at home.
They did beat UVA, but they

2519
02:07:59,440 --> 02:08:02,540
crumbled down the season.
Losing to pit losing to West

2520
02:08:02,540 --> 02:08:06,100
Virginia they went into the ACC
in 2004 picked the finish near

2521
02:08:06,100 --> 02:08:09,820
the bottom and Beamer every game
and even to the season said

2522
02:08:09,820 --> 02:08:13,020
we're going to attack the
scratch and claw to win every

2523
02:08:13,020 --> 02:08:15,380
game and he said it even when
they won a winning streak he

2524
02:08:15,380 --> 02:08:18,500
kept saying it when it you know
after they they they scared USC

2525
02:08:18,500 --> 02:08:21,460
and they were two and two after
losing the NC State at home he

2526
02:08:21,460 --> 02:08:25,580
kept saying we got a crashing
scratching scratching claw and.

2527
02:08:26,330 --> 02:08:29,130
I get it now and I got it then,
but I get it even more now.

2528
02:08:29,130 --> 02:08:31,330
What?
He was saying that yes, we have

2529
02:08:31,330 --> 02:08:34,410
talent but we have not proven
anything because they were

2530
02:08:34,410 --> 02:08:37,290
coming off that disappointing O3
season and this is a team in O

2531
02:08:37,290 --> 02:08:41,210
four that had talent at
receivers.

2532
02:08:41,370 --> 02:08:43,490
I mean you talk, you talk about
Eddie Royal playing as a true

2533
02:08:43,490 --> 02:08:47,690
freshman, talking about what's
my guy, man that played

2534
02:08:47,690 --> 02:08:49,410
everything, a utility guy, man.
He coached.

2535
02:08:49,450 --> 02:08:52,770
He was a DC Gifts accordion
before he left Hamilton, you

2536
02:08:52,770 --> 02:08:53,930
know what I'm saying?
Justin Hamilton.

2537
02:08:53,930 --> 02:08:56,860
They had so many guys, right?
The point I'm getting at and you

2538
02:08:56,860 --> 02:09:00,580
know let the rest of the panel
talk on this is that I, you know

2539
02:09:00,580 --> 02:09:04,260
tally, I feel like Tech you know
can definitely finish strong.

2540
02:09:04,660 --> 02:09:07,860
But the one thing I've always
said is that you need leaders

2541
02:09:07,940 --> 02:09:12,020
and you need guys to exemplify,
be an extension of what coach

2542
02:09:12,020 --> 02:09:15,860
pry, coach Mark JC Price and
those guys want them to do you

2543
02:09:15,940 --> 02:09:20,380
You need guys to take control of
this team and and to learn how

2544
02:09:20,380 --> 02:09:22,820
to win.
I think we will know more on how

2545
02:09:22,820 --> 02:09:25,300
they will finish given how they
start.

2546
02:09:26,460 --> 02:09:30,460
And I I, I think, you know, if
they take an approach every game

2547
02:09:30,460 --> 02:09:33,780
like they're being disrespected
or no one believes in them and

2548
02:09:33,780 --> 02:09:36,460
they have to prove themselves
every week, you're going to see

2549
02:09:36,460 --> 02:09:38,740
a very, very hungry football
team.

2550
02:09:39,420 --> 02:09:43,460
You know, Because what I did,
you know, was a result of what

2551
02:09:43,460 --> 02:09:46,900
JC Price and them taught me how
to do J Haygood and those guys.

2552
02:09:47,220 --> 02:09:49,180
And then I took that torch and I
ran with it.

2553
02:09:49,460 --> 02:09:52,550
And then years later.
You know, Luther and those guys

2554
02:09:52,550 --> 02:09:54,750
and all those guys that came
after me, they continued that

2555
02:09:54,750 --> 02:09:57,150
because they knew it was
expected and they carried the

2556
02:09:57,150 --> 02:09:58,550
toys.
Even if we did each other till

2557
02:09:58,550 --> 02:10:01,190
later in their career, they
understood what it meant.

2558
02:10:01,510 --> 02:10:03,990
I think these guys are learning
what it means to wear that

2559
02:10:03,990 --> 02:10:07,030
helmet, understand what it means
to walk to that tunnel.

2560
02:10:07,270 --> 02:10:09,630
There's a lot of great things at
Virginia Tech in that locker

2561
02:10:09,630 --> 02:10:12,390
room and around that stadium,
around that campus that these

2562
02:10:12,390 --> 02:10:15,230
young men are benefiting from
but did not know what it meant

2563
02:10:15,910 --> 02:10:17,750
to do.
You know what I'm saying to put

2564
02:10:17,750 --> 02:10:20,480
on, I think.
The benefit of having the guys

2565
02:10:20,480 --> 02:10:23,280
on that staff even got like
Xavier DB and those guys

2566
02:10:23,280 --> 02:10:25,600
teaching them and they
understand, I think, you know,

2567
02:10:25,600 --> 02:10:28,560
you understand what it means to
go up to Boston College and take

2568
02:10:28,560 --> 02:10:32,920
care of business and go down the
UVA and be the UVA team that,

2569
02:10:32,920 --> 02:10:35,480
you know we typically beat, but
they got to go do it.

2570
02:10:35,480 --> 02:10:39,520
So if I look at it right now,
ask me that same question out

2571
02:10:39,520 --> 02:10:42,720
there the first four games of
the season, you know?

2572
02:10:43,400 --> 02:10:45,800
Taking you.
Talk about.

2573
02:10:47,700 --> 02:10:50,660
Yeah, no, I was going to say I
think it's absolutely, it's very

2574
02:10:50,660 --> 02:10:52,700
important.
I mean, obviously you've got

2575
02:10:53,140 --> 02:10:54,300
look at what happened last year,
right?

2576
02:10:54,300 --> 02:10:57,540
There's just so many, at least
three, maybe four games in which

2577
02:10:57,540 --> 02:11:01,140
Tech literally had to back their
hands to win that football game.

2578
02:11:01,140 --> 02:11:05,540
They just slip out.
Rather was Miami, NC State,

2579
02:11:06,220 --> 02:11:09,300
Georgia Tech, even like Tech
that won the football games.

2580
02:11:09,300 --> 02:11:10,420
But again, they don't know the
win.

2581
02:11:11,140 --> 02:11:13,140
You know, it's a younger team,
but I think it's going to be a

2582
02:11:13,140 --> 02:11:16,740
combination of the coaches and
some leads up.

2583
02:11:17,340 --> 02:11:20,060
I think back to my freshman year
when I went to the ACC

2584
02:11:20,060 --> 02:11:23,380
Championship, went to the Sugar
Bowl, we had leaders like Eddie

2585
02:11:23,380 --> 02:11:26,460
Whitley.
I think it's really no, people

2586
02:11:26,460 --> 02:11:28,260
don't really realize how
important Eddie Willy was to

2587
02:11:28,260 --> 02:11:30,300
that football.
He was a fiery guy.

2588
02:11:31,340 --> 02:11:34,820
Every single practice, he's all
out, like he's just, I can't

2589
02:11:34,820 --> 02:11:37,100
speak how enough of Eddie
Whitley, Eddie Willy, Bruce

2590
02:11:37,100 --> 02:11:39,780
Taylor.
But then you also have guys as

2591
02:11:39,900 --> 02:11:42,900
the players that were on staff,
like Cornell Brown that can

2592
02:11:42,900 --> 02:11:45,300
plead to the side.
And when you're fucking up, you

2593
02:11:45,300 --> 02:11:46,500
can't kind of have a chat with
you.

2594
02:11:46,950 --> 02:11:48,510
And make sure you get back on on
point.

2595
02:11:48,510 --> 02:11:51,550
So I think all that stuff's
important and I still that finds

2596
02:11:51,550 --> 02:11:54,270
a way to kind of add those
pieces together.

2597
02:11:54,550 --> 02:11:55,990
You know that's it's going to
take a while when I put the

2598
02:11:55,990 --> 02:11:59,310
football program back on pace,
but it comes to then one of the

2599
02:11:59,310 --> 02:12:03,110
football games, I mean Boston
College, three and eight season.

2600
02:12:03,630 --> 02:12:06,430
I think they have a pretty solid
quarterback back in Louisville.

2601
02:12:06,430 --> 02:12:08,390
I think they're going to
actually be pretty good this

2602
02:12:08,390 --> 02:12:09,790
year with the transfer that they
brought in.

2603
02:12:10,550 --> 02:12:12,870
So although tech's not favored
in those football games, I think

2604
02:12:12,870 --> 02:12:15,450
they are.
And tech and find a way to

2605
02:12:15,450 --> 02:12:19,050
Windows football games and you
know be above 500 if you step

2606
02:12:19,050 --> 02:12:22,050
one in the right direction.
Yeah.

2607
02:12:22,050 --> 02:12:23,410
I think.
I think it's in crucially

2608
02:12:23,410 --> 02:12:28,850
important for every fan to not
everybody does this exercise the

2609
02:12:28,970 --> 02:12:33,050
the schedule comes out and you
do the W, you do the L, you do

2610
02:12:33,050 --> 02:12:34,490
the L, you go down the whole
schedule.

2611
02:12:35,170 --> 02:12:38,650
What I'm really looking for out
of this football team is yes, I

2612
02:12:38,650 --> 02:12:40,210
think we're going to a bowl game
is going to be.

2613
02:12:40,650 --> 02:12:42,250
It would be monumental for this
group.

2614
02:12:42,410 --> 02:12:45,420
I think, you know, I'm going to
at some point I'm sure on this

2615
02:12:45,420 --> 02:12:48,900
podcast and later on in the year
give a give a schedule

2616
02:12:48,900 --> 02:12:51,420
prediction and predict about
we're going to win such and such

2617
02:12:51,420 --> 02:12:53,580
game or whatever.
But at the end of the day, what

2618
02:12:53,580 --> 02:12:58,900
I'm more interested in is just
organization and less chaos.

2619
02:12:59,100 --> 02:13:03,900
And again, Coach, Coach Prize
done a phenomenal job of owning

2620
02:13:04,300 --> 02:13:07,420
some of the things that he can
do better and owning some of the

2621
02:13:07,420 --> 02:13:08,740
things that his staff can do
better.

2622
02:13:08,740 --> 02:13:12,860
The the staff that we saw from
the television broadcast of the

2623
02:13:12,860 --> 02:13:15,340
Old Dominion game, which was
chaos.

2624
02:13:15,340 --> 02:13:18,060
It was unorganized.
It was kind of all over the

2625
02:13:18,060 --> 02:13:20,780
place.
You saw it get better to the

2626
02:13:20,780 --> 02:13:23,540
Liberty game.
And again, we talked about some

2627
02:13:23,540 --> 02:13:25,940
of those games that, you know,
we're in a position to win and

2628
02:13:25,940 --> 02:13:28,060
didn't win.
Did some of that come down to

2629
02:13:28,060 --> 02:13:29,020
execution?
Yes.

2630
02:13:29,020 --> 02:13:31,620
Coach Price said that he's
really focused on having more

2631
02:13:31,620 --> 02:13:35,180
competitive competitive periods
and practice, making sure that

2632
02:13:35,180 --> 02:13:38,260
that's extremely important.
But we were in position to win

2633
02:13:38,260 --> 02:13:41,260
those games against teams who
were monumentally more talented

2634
02:13:41,260 --> 02:13:44,220
than Virginia Tech.
And look, Virginia Tech has has

2635
02:13:44,220 --> 02:13:46,020
beaten more talented teams in
them.

2636
02:13:46,020 --> 02:13:49,780
But the disparity that there was
last year was so wide and they

2637
02:13:49,780 --> 02:13:51,860
were still in positions to be
fighting and clawing.

2638
02:13:51,860 --> 02:13:54,060
And that was one of the things I
was most proud of of this team

2639
02:13:54,060 --> 02:13:57,860
last year is there wasn't really
a game that you looked at and

2640
02:13:57,860 --> 02:13:59,260
you're like our team quit this
game.

2641
02:13:59,620 --> 02:14:02,590
They may have lost, they may
have gotten out skiing, they may

2642
02:14:02,590 --> 02:14:06,270
have ran out of gas towards the
end because we're you know 1

2643
02:14:06,270 --> 02:14:08,190
deep at basically every single
position.

2644
02:14:08,190 --> 02:14:11,950
But I never saw us come in and
just completely quit and let go

2645
02:14:11,950 --> 02:14:14,470
of the rope.
So you know, one play goes

2646
02:14:14,470 --> 02:14:17,790
another way, one play goes
another way, your records

2647
02:14:17,790 --> 02:14:20,910
probably a little bit different,
but that's what I'm looking for.

2648
02:14:20,950 --> 02:14:24,750
Eliminate pre snap penalties,
look more organized and and

2649
02:14:24,750 --> 02:14:28,470
finish the job and I'm more
concerned with that than I am.

2650
02:14:28,750 --> 02:14:30,470
We better win this amount of
games.

2651
02:14:30,510 --> 02:14:32,870
Yeah Billy, I'm I'm I'm with you
on that because it's all the

2652
02:14:32,870 --> 02:14:35,590
little things.
Go back to the NC State game

2653
02:14:35,990 --> 02:14:39,110
everybody go back 10 pre snap
penalties.

2654
02:14:39,750 --> 02:14:41,510
I got three offensive lineman on
here.

2655
02:14:41,510 --> 02:14:45,030
How many gasters with jar ran?
If you had did 10 pre snap

2656
02:14:45,030 --> 02:14:46,670
penalties, it's still we still
be running them.

2657
02:14:46,790 --> 02:14:48,710
We still be running them we
think about.

2658
02:14:48,710 --> 02:14:51,590
That game how many pre snap
penalties and cut them in half

2659
02:14:51,590 --> 02:14:52,830
I'll.
Probably win.

2660
02:14:52,830 --> 02:14:55,420
NC State.
You think about the Georgia Tech

2661
02:14:55,420 --> 02:14:57,380
game with the fumble issues and
I.

2662
02:14:57,980 --> 02:14:59,860
Humbles happen, Luther.
You were.

2663
02:14:59,860 --> 02:15:01,780
You've been.
You play defense your whole

2664
02:15:01,780 --> 02:15:04,940
life.
Defensive players make plays.

2665
02:15:05,500 --> 02:15:07,420
But think about when Keyshawn
fumble that ball.

2666
02:15:07,940 --> 02:15:10,300
Like, we're we're there.
We're up points.

2667
02:15:10,300 --> 02:15:13,060
If we kick a field goal, it's
out of reach.

2668
02:15:13,660 --> 02:15:16,620
If we punch it in, they have
absolutely no shot, but we

2669
02:15:16,620 --> 02:15:18,980
fumble.
It's those little things.

2670
02:15:18,980 --> 02:15:21,540
And like you said, Billy, I love
what you just said there about

2671
02:15:21,540 --> 02:15:24,020
the chaos.
Who do you look chaotic?

2672
02:15:24,020 --> 02:15:26,260
And every week it was a little
bit better, a little bit better.

2673
02:15:26,820 --> 02:15:29,420
And every week we started being
more competitive.

2674
02:15:29,420 --> 02:15:32,020
It didn't look as chaotic.
Guess we won a couple games.

2675
02:15:32,420 --> 02:15:36,820
So I I loved hearing it from all
you guys, knowing that you guys

2676
02:15:36,820 --> 02:15:40,580
again played on that field.
Now I'm going to pivot to

2677
02:15:40,580 --> 02:15:44,300
something real quick just
because I I like this question

2678
02:15:44,300 --> 02:15:46,460
this gentleman brought up and
I'm wondering if it's Anthony

2679
02:15:46,460 --> 02:15:50,180
Harris we all know of.
But in y'all's opinion, Billy,

2680
02:15:50,180 --> 02:15:52,420
I'll let you let you start out
the gate with this one.

2681
02:15:53,030 --> 02:15:56,670
What true freshman are you
expecting to get some PT this

2682
02:15:56,670 --> 02:15:58,190
year?
Offense or defense.

2683
02:15:59,310 --> 02:16:01,710
I know, I know you guys are
going to hate me for doing this.

2684
02:16:01,870 --> 02:16:03,910
I'm going to say I'm going to
say I'm going to say most

2685
02:16:03,910 --> 02:16:06,350
Phillips because he's who's
everybody's talking about and

2686
02:16:06,350 --> 02:16:09,390
I'm not I'm not a practice so
I'm I'm not see I'm not seeing

2687
02:16:09,630 --> 02:16:10,590
him.
I'm going to answer this

2688
02:16:10,590 --> 02:16:15,310
question with with saying this
and I was asked this a ton by

2689
02:16:15,310 --> 02:16:19,070
national by national media
coming up and saying Pop Watson,

2690
02:16:19,070 --> 02:16:21,270
man is is pop Watson is pop
Watson going to play

2691
02:16:21,270 --> 02:16:23,720
quarterback.
I think pop Watson is

2692
02:16:23,720 --> 02:16:25,720
tremendously talented.
I really do.

2693
02:16:25,720 --> 02:16:27,440
I think he's going to have an
opportunity to play.

2694
02:16:27,440 --> 02:16:29,520
I think he's going to play in
the future.

2695
02:16:30,000 --> 02:16:34,440
But the idea that he should get
thrown in there this year at his

2696
02:16:34,440 --> 02:16:36,920
size with no time getting
familiar with the playbook.

2697
02:16:37,480 --> 02:16:40,320
I'd I'd I'd encourage everybody
to pump the brakes a little bit

2698
02:16:40,320 --> 02:16:42,120
on that.
I think he's going to be a good

2699
02:16:42,120 --> 02:16:44,520
player moving into the future.
He's got some weight to gain.

2700
02:16:44,520 --> 02:16:48,389
He's got some understanding to
get down with the playbook so

2701
02:16:48,430 --> 02:16:51,430
I'll give you a non answer and
I'm really excited for Pop

2702
02:16:51,430 --> 02:16:53,549
Watson, but I don't think his
time is quite yet.

2703
02:16:54,030 --> 02:16:57,230
Got it, Luther.
Luther, what you got?

2704
02:16:58,990 --> 02:17:01,230
Yeah.
So I mean, honestly, I haven't

2705
02:17:01,230 --> 02:17:04,030
seen a whole lot of these guys,
so I can't really give you guys

2706
02:17:04,950 --> 02:17:07,549
a great answer.
But I know that there's been

2707
02:17:07,549 --> 02:17:10,190
some talk about one of those
young safeties maybe kind of

2708
02:17:10,190 --> 02:17:13,510
getting some PT here, maybe not
start, but again, like playing

2709
02:17:13,510 --> 02:17:16,940
time, maybe guys like most.
Supposedly he's been looking

2710
02:17:16,940 --> 02:17:20,180
pretty decent out there, so I
think he kind of just on the

2711
02:17:20,180 --> 02:17:24,379
outside looking in, but I'm the
player, you know, that really

2712
02:17:24,379 --> 02:17:27,660
stands out as a as a freshman
being making a big contribution

2713
02:17:27,660 --> 02:17:31,299
this year.
All right, Mr. Vick.

2714
02:17:31,700 --> 02:17:34,260
I think I know.
I think I know what he going to

2715
02:17:34,260 --> 02:17:37,219
say.
I think he going to say #12.

2716
02:17:37,500 --> 02:17:42,299
Woodson, Kayla Woodson.
I've been on the man.

2717
02:17:42,299 --> 02:17:44,629
Listen.
I'm not even going to go into it

2718
02:17:44,629 --> 02:17:46,670
because I said it last night.
But for the respect to your

2719
02:17:46,670 --> 02:17:51,309
show, man, I mean he's I, you
know, I saw him in high school,

2720
02:17:51,389 --> 02:17:55,510
his last junior, senior year.
He was, you know, already, you

2721
02:17:55,510 --> 02:17:58,510
know looking at stuff, the
scheme and and talking to

2722
02:17:58,510 --> 02:18:00,950
coaches.
I mean he if you see him, you

2723
02:18:00,950 --> 02:18:02,549
know, physically he passed the
odd test.

2724
02:18:02,549 --> 02:18:06,030
But I just, I just love his
mindset and he's a worker.

2725
02:18:06,830 --> 02:18:09,889
I I I I can see him.
Kind of midway through the

2726
02:18:09,889 --> 02:18:13,330
season, man, forcing himself
into the lineup, barring

2727
02:18:13,330 --> 02:18:16,530
something crazy, I just, I'm
excited for him, man.

2728
02:18:16,530 --> 02:18:19,889
And he looks like, you know, one
of those Virginia Tech guys

2729
02:18:19,889 --> 02:18:23,330
like, you know, looks like Devon
Morgan, you know, Cam

2730
02:18:23,330 --> 02:18:25,690
Chancellor.
You know one thing about, like

2731
02:18:25,690 --> 02:18:28,570
Virginia Tech defensive guys,
they always had that look.

2732
02:18:28,570 --> 02:18:33,049
Certain DV's that came down in
the box can also cover, but he's

2733
02:18:33,049 --> 02:18:35,129
also more of a linebacker.
Bill too.

2734
02:18:35,129 --> 02:18:38,010
But that's my guy.
But I mean, I'm like Luther too,

2735
02:18:38,010 --> 02:18:42,580
man, I think.
You know there's always a player

2736
02:18:42,580 --> 02:18:43,900
too.
Like the kid you guys were

2737
02:18:43,900 --> 02:18:45,299
talking about last night.
Curtis.

2738
02:18:45,299 --> 02:18:47,700
He was a red shirt freshman last
year.

2739
02:18:47,700 --> 02:18:50,260
The linebacker that came on
strong the Georgia Tech game.

2740
02:18:50,260 --> 02:18:54,420
He had a tip pass exception such
yeah, those are the guys that

2741
02:18:54,420 --> 02:18:58,700
you know will come kind of week
three-week 4 that'll surprise

2742
02:18:58,740 --> 02:19:00,620
you.
But right now my my surprise

2743
02:19:00,620 --> 02:19:02,459
that people going to be talking
about I stand by.

2744
02:19:02,459 --> 02:19:05,139
I said the same thing you know
about Stroman.

2745
02:19:05,870 --> 02:19:08,469
And Eddie Royal when they came
to Tech, so I got a little bit

2746
02:19:08,469 --> 02:19:12,510
of a good track record.
I say, I say, I think that they

2747
02:19:12,510 --> 02:19:15,830
pay attention to the white
because I've been seeing Caleb

2748
02:19:15,830 --> 02:19:18,110
Wilson on all types of media
stuff lately.

2749
02:19:18,430 --> 02:19:21,709
I think I got on Facebook and he
was like, it was a picture, big

2750
02:19:21,709 --> 02:19:24,190
picture of him like kissing his
mom or something like that at

2751
02:19:24,190 --> 02:19:27,790
media day or Family Day.
And then just a clip came out

2752
02:19:27,790 --> 02:19:31,830
today where he was absolutely
annihilated like a tight end or

2753
02:19:31,950 --> 02:19:32,389
something.
So.

2754
02:19:32,750 --> 02:19:34,350
I'm like, damn, is they
listening to Dwight.

2755
02:19:34,350 --> 02:19:36,469
They're trying to get him.
They're trying to get him on

2756
02:19:36,469 --> 02:19:39,230
camera but but he he looks, he
does look the part.

2757
02:19:39,629 --> 02:19:40,750
He looks the part, man.
He.

2758
02:19:40,950 --> 02:19:42,750
Looks the part.
I seen him when I went to the

2759
02:19:42,750 --> 02:19:45,510
spring game, not to cut you off,
but when I went to the spring

2760
02:19:45,510 --> 02:19:48,309
game and they were announcing
like all the freshmen and stuff,

2761
02:19:48,630 --> 02:19:51,470
he was on the field just like
plain clothes.

2762
02:19:51,750 --> 02:19:53,110
And I was like, God damn, who
was that?

2763
02:19:53,190 --> 02:19:56,630
And when they called his name,
like, he was big, like he was a

2764
02:19:56,630 --> 02:19:59,110
big, a big dude.
And I'm thinking, I looked at

2765
02:19:59,110 --> 02:20:02,230
Brian and I was like, he's
supposed to be at prom like.

2766
02:20:02,880 --> 02:20:05,680
He's supposed to be thinking
about, like, you know what I'm

2767
02:20:05,760 --> 02:20:07,240
saying?
I'm gonna get too explicit, but

2768
02:20:07,240 --> 02:20:09,240
I'm like, he's supposed to be at
prom, man.

2769
02:20:09,280 --> 02:20:11,800
He's supposed to be thinking
about like playing football in

2770
02:20:11,800 --> 02:20:14,200
college.
And he just, man, he just looks

2771
02:20:14,200 --> 02:20:16,360
like a college football player
already.

2772
02:20:16,680 --> 02:20:20,040
And just that the the, you know,
kind of the pivot a little bit

2773
02:20:20,680 --> 02:20:22,400
with that question that we put
up.

2774
02:20:22,400 --> 02:20:25,040
Who who gave us that question?
You said Anthony, Anthony,

2775
02:20:25,920 --> 02:20:27,560
Anthony.
Good, great question, man.

2776
02:20:27,560 --> 02:20:32,780
But I'll say I wouldn't be
surprised to see, you know some

2777
02:20:32,780 --> 02:20:36,740
of those young DB's, man.
You know, even Brendan Johnson,

2778
02:20:37,060 --> 02:20:39,620
you know all of those guys.
When you start talking about

2779
02:20:39,620 --> 02:20:43,260
just football players, when you
talk about offensive line, it's

2780
02:20:43,260 --> 02:20:46,940
hard to get into.
It's hard to get on the field as

2781
02:20:46,940 --> 02:20:50,460
a freshman defensive line, yet
you ain't you too lighting the

2782
02:20:50,460 --> 02:20:54,300
ass to come in as a freshman.
You got to be real good to get

2783
02:20:54,300 --> 02:20:58,020
in and just have natural ability
to play in the trenches that

2784
02:20:58,020 --> 02:21:01,220
early.
But you see a lot of times while

2785
02:21:01,220 --> 02:21:04,740
receiver or cornerback, like
they can get put in the fire

2786
02:21:04,740 --> 02:21:08,900
sometimes just because a lot of
times that position just relies

2787
02:21:08,900 --> 02:21:11,100
on your natural ability.
You know you're going to go,

2788
02:21:11,100 --> 02:21:12,620
you're going to go through some
growing pains.

2789
02:21:12,620 --> 02:21:15,140
I think we kind of seen that
with Delaine last year.

2790
02:21:15,500 --> 02:21:19,500
He he was in the right position.
A lot of times he just wasn't

2791
02:21:19,500 --> 02:21:22,460
quite strong enough to maybe
wrestle a ball from somebody or

2792
02:21:22,460 --> 02:21:24,260
maybe to get somebody down with
a tackle.

2793
02:21:24,260 --> 02:21:27,130
But his technique was there.
That's why everybody's so

2794
02:21:27,130 --> 02:21:29,810
excited about it.
I think we'll see another one of

2795
02:21:29,810 --> 02:21:32,730
our young DB's that maybe have
to step up, you know, when

2796
02:21:32,730 --> 02:21:35,650
somebody needs a breather to
just get in and get some PT.

2797
02:21:35,650 --> 02:21:38,130
So I wouldn't be surprised to
see somebody like a Brailer

2798
02:21:38,130 --> 02:21:41,450
Networks or, you know, Fleming
or one of those guys get in.

2799
02:21:41,930 --> 02:21:44,610
Dante Lovett say Yeah, don't
tell the bigger crew.

2800
02:21:45,850 --> 02:21:48,290
And Lovett's already you already
kind of look too, and you make

2801
02:21:48,290 --> 02:21:51,290
the point about that tally.
It's also the build and I think

2802
02:21:51,290 --> 02:21:54,050
all you guys who played y'all
can y'all know what y'all like.

2803
02:21:54,170 --> 02:21:57,210
Some of these.
Corners come in and you kind of

2804
02:21:57,210 --> 02:21:59,450
look and you compare them to
your teammates and say hey he's

2805
02:21:59,530 --> 02:22:02,610
he's like already there.
He's not he's not that far off.

2806
02:22:02,930 --> 02:22:06,330
Making the comparisons like you
just did to the offensive line

2807
02:22:06,330 --> 02:22:08,890
like that.
Like those those safeties and

2808
02:22:08,890 --> 02:22:10,610
those, you know, corners and
stuff.

2809
02:22:10,610 --> 02:22:14,010
Not that far off compared to the
other stuff where you have to

2810
02:22:14,010 --> 02:22:15,930
gain mass.
And I'm sure I got three guys

2811
02:22:15,930 --> 02:22:19,290
below me here I'm sure and and
Mr. Siegel up when he was at

2812
02:22:19,290 --> 02:22:20,890
Hampton Sydney.
All right.

2813
02:22:20,890 --> 02:22:23,440
Y'all need to eat.
They just need to eat because

2814
02:22:23,440 --> 02:22:24,600
you all ain't got enough weight
on you, you.

2815
02:22:25,440 --> 02:22:26,720
Need to eat.
But you need to eat the right

2816
02:22:26,720 --> 02:22:28,600
stuff too.
I mean that that that's just

2817
02:22:28,720 --> 02:22:30,480
that's just a.
Big That nutrition center is

2818
02:22:30,480 --> 02:22:31,560
doing it, too.
Yep.

2819
02:22:31,840 --> 02:22:33,000
Down there.
Yeah.

2820
02:22:33,000 --> 02:22:36,640
I mean, not everybody can be a,
you know, John McLaughlin and

2821
02:22:36,640 --> 02:22:39,400
get a starting role on the
offensive line right at the

2822
02:22:39,400 --> 02:22:41,600
gate.
So sometimes you got to come in

2823
02:22:41,600 --> 02:22:44,200
there.
Jonathan had the size Brian, but

2824
02:22:44,200 --> 02:22:49,320
he also and Billy knows this man
and I I don't you know I know

2825
02:22:49,320 --> 02:22:51,560
your listeners and viewers may
disagree but.

2826
02:22:52,060 --> 02:22:54,860
People give a lot of credit to
the quarterback and the safety,

2827
02:22:54,860 --> 02:22:59,300
but imagine having the block, JC
Price, Cornell Brown, Corey

2828
02:22:59,300 --> 02:23:02,460
Moore, John Engelberger or even
Corey Marshall.

2829
02:23:02,820 --> 02:23:05,540
And they're moving and the
scheme's changing and they're

2830
02:23:05,540 --> 02:23:07,460
talking and the quarterback's
talking.

2831
02:23:07,460 --> 02:23:11,140
He's doing, check with me and
you got the crowd cheering and I

2832
02:23:11,140 --> 02:23:14,060
got to make sure there's three
techniques that moves to A1.

2833
02:23:14,500 --> 02:23:16,900
Now I got to help the center and
get to the next level.

2834
02:23:16,900 --> 02:23:21,330
So Jonathan had a high IQ.
I remember I met him, I was

2835
02:23:21,330 --> 02:23:23,650
there, might have been for a
game.

2836
02:23:23,650 --> 02:23:25,650
And I talked to him on the
sidelines when we introduced

2837
02:23:26,250 --> 02:23:29,450
ourselves to each other.
And I was a fan because I was

2838
02:23:29,450 --> 02:23:33,210
like to play at Tech at that
time as a true freshman special

2839
02:23:33,210 --> 02:23:34,290
bro.
You know what I'm saying?

2840
02:23:34,290 --> 02:23:36,770
Like, because I can tell you
right now, I called my dad and

2841
02:23:36,770 --> 02:23:42,650
said, dad, I want to red shirt.
I was like, I want to red shirt,

2842
02:23:44,450 --> 02:23:45,010
yeah.
I mean.

2843
02:23:46,040 --> 02:23:48,640
I used to call John Quick feed.
The thing that for me his first

2844
02:23:48,640 --> 02:23:50,880
couple of years he had that, you
know and Billy knows that he

2845
02:23:50,880 --> 02:23:55,640
started practicing, you know his
Craftsman section was all ended

2846
02:23:55,680 --> 02:23:59,000
with an attitude like you know,
I'm not laughing, I'm just do

2847
02:23:59,000 --> 02:24:01,600
what I got to do.
Like he was non salon but also

2848
02:24:01,600 --> 02:24:06,160
smart, like he didn't really get
too too steer, played moves and

2849
02:24:06,160 --> 02:24:08,480
I think that helped them a big
time freshman year.

2850
02:24:09,120 --> 02:24:11,400
Yeah, guys that can play with
the even kill but still have

2851
02:24:11,400 --> 02:24:13,840
that dog in them, that's a
that's a special trait.

2852
02:24:14,200 --> 02:24:17,250
That's a special trait to have.
Let's We're going to wrap this

2853
02:24:17,250 --> 02:24:20,930
up here.
We've got two generations of

2854
02:24:20,930 --> 02:24:23,450
hokey football alumni on this
segment right now.

2855
02:24:23,970 --> 02:24:26,530
One was a leader when the
program rose to prominence.

2856
02:24:26,930 --> 02:24:29,450
One was a leader as Coach
Beamer's career wrapped up.

2857
02:24:29,770 --> 02:24:33,570
The other saw firsthand regime
change in 2016.

2858
02:24:34,250 --> 02:24:38,450
With that experience in mind,
I'd like to give each of you let

2859
02:24:38,490 --> 02:24:41,090
me hear one thing about this
team or staff that gives you

2860
02:24:41,090 --> 02:24:44,900
optimism for 2023.
And maybe one thing that

2861
02:24:44,900 --> 02:24:47,300
concerns you at this point still
going into the season.

2862
02:24:48,420 --> 02:24:49,740
And Billy, I'll let you lead on
this one.

2863
02:24:51,460 --> 02:24:54,900
Positives are easy.
Coach prize tremendous.

2864
02:24:54,900 --> 02:24:57,780
He's easy to root for.
One of the things that he did

2865
02:24:57,780 --> 02:25:00,980
this year that I wanted to see
him do in year two, that we

2866
02:25:00,980 --> 02:25:02,780
missed out on.
Year one was was attacked the

2867
02:25:02,780 --> 02:25:05,500
Portal and he did a phenomenal
job of attacking the Portal this

2868
02:25:05,500 --> 02:25:07,500
offseason.
Another year of building

2869
02:25:07,500 --> 02:25:09,980
relationships with fans,
coaches, alumni.

2870
02:25:10,670 --> 02:25:14,590
And for what the staff lacks and
experience at some spots they

2871
02:25:14,590 --> 02:25:17,350
make up in recruiting.
Get it.

2872
02:25:17,350 --> 02:25:23,630
Miss if if we want to throw that
term around and personality and

2873
02:25:23,630 --> 02:25:26,310
the level of talent at Virginia
Tech has has elevated.

2874
02:25:26,670 --> 02:25:28,950
At the end of the day, who
you're going against in

2875
02:25:28,950 --> 02:25:32,790
practice, one-on-one ones on
twos if you're not getting a

2876
02:25:32,790 --> 02:25:34,630
good look.
And the best look that you see

2877
02:25:34,630 --> 02:25:37,030
every single week is the guy
that you're lining up against.

2878
02:25:37,700 --> 02:25:40,660
That's not a recipe for success.
So I think that that moves the

2879
02:25:40,660 --> 02:25:46,620
needle a lot.
My biggest fear and concern, I

2880
02:25:46,620 --> 02:25:48,820
mean, number one is is
conference realignment.

2881
02:25:48,820 --> 02:25:50,740
It's it's hard not to talk about
that.

2882
02:25:51,340 --> 02:25:53,380
That's not something that the
coaches can control.

2883
02:25:53,380 --> 02:25:55,260
It's not something that the
players can control.

2884
02:25:56,060 --> 02:25:57,980
But that's kind of the one
pressing thing, I guess, that

2885
02:25:57,980 --> 02:26:00,340
everyone's thinking about.
But what I'm looking at this

2886
02:26:00,420 --> 02:26:04,870
season is.
The stretch of Marshall,

2887
02:26:04,950 --> 02:26:08,590
Pittsburgh, Florida State, Wake
Forest, back-to-back to

2888
02:26:08,590 --> 02:26:13,350
back-to-back in the moment, How
do they handle that?

2889
02:26:13,790 --> 02:26:16,590
Those are four really good teams
for a lot of people.

2890
02:26:16,590 --> 02:26:18,510
We're going to play Marshall and
people are going to wake up and

2891
02:26:18,510 --> 02:26:19,910
look at the schedule and be
like, oh, we're playing

2892
02:26:19,910 --> 02:26:21,790
Marshall, whatever.
Marshall has great defense.

2893
02:26:21,790 --> 02:26:23,470
Marshall has a really good
program.

2894
02:26:23,470 --> 02:26:26,870
They are very talented.
That's going to be no cupcake.

2895
02:26:27,510 --> 02:26:29,830
Pittsburgh, they're well to.
I know you guys said in the last

2896
02:26:29,830 --> 02:26:31,230
segment, you're not Nardozzi
guys.

2897
02:26:31,230 --> 02:26:33,790
Nardozzi is doing a phenomenal
job at Pittsburgh.

2898
02:26:33,790 --> 02:26:36,670
He's recruiting well.
He's like Marcus, smart man.

2899
02:26:36,670 --> 02:26:39,350
He's the guy that you you hate
when he's on the other team, but

2900
02:26:39,350 --> 02:26:41,230
if he's your guy, you love that
dude.

2901
02:26:42,470 --> 02:26:45,550
Florida State, obviously,
Playoff contention.

2902
02:26:45,550 --> 02:26:47,630
Everybody's on Florida State and
then Wake Forest.

2903
02:26:47,990 --> 02:26:49,750
How are they going to handle
that in the moment?

2904
02:26:50,500 --> 02:26:54,060
And if you come out of it with
being 500, fantastic.

2905
02:26:54,340 --> 02:26:57,020
But if you struggle through
that, how do you come out the

2906
02:26:57,060 --> 02:27:00,100
other end from the bye week
against Syracuse?

2907
02:27:00,420 --> 02:27:03,780
Are you going to be able to
handle adversity and get back on

2908
02:27:03,780 --> 02:27:05,340
the tracks?
Because you saw it last year.

2909
02:27:05,340 --> 02:27:08,620
There was a tremendous stretch
of just flailing and trying to

2910
02:27:08,620 --> 02:27:11,460
get it together.
Are they going to be able to get

2911
02:27:11,460 --> 02:27:16,120
through that stretch admirably?
And then keep it going after

2912
02:27:16,120 --> 02:27:19,000
that bye week, can we see some
sort of consistency?

2913
02:27:19,240 --> 02:27:22,000
Because I think that's the
biggest challenge stretch that

2914
02:27:22,000 --> 02:27:24,160
we're going to face is those
four games you get the bye week

2915
02:27:24,160 --> 02:27:26,040
and then you're right back into
it with ACC play.

2916
02:27:26,040 --> 02:27:29,720
So I wouldn't say it's fear, I
just think that window of games

2917
02:27:29,720 --> 02:27:32,280
is going to teach us a lot about
where this program is headed.

2918
02:27:33,640 --> 02:27:36,520
Luther, what you got?
Yeah, so.

2919
02:27:37,040 --> 02:27:40,440
So for me, I feel whole about
the offensive side, I mean.

2920
02:27:41,820 --> 02:27:44,780
Just watching that play last
year, it's just just miserable,

2921
02:27:44,780 --> 02:27:46,620
right.
It's a guy and I end all, but

2922
02:27:46,620 --> 02:27:49,740
just watching off, I could
barely finish watching the

2923
02:27:49,740 --> 02:27:51,340
football game.
I hate to say it like that but

2924
02:27:51,340 --> 02:27:52,860
it's.
I'm just being honest.

2925
02:27:53,500 --> 02:27:57,140
So you know I think for me I
feel a whole lot better about

2926
02:27:57,140 --> 02:27:59,340
what the Billy kind of touched
on a little bit earlier is the

2927
02:27:59,340 --> 02:28:00,820
addition with the transfer
portal.

2928
02:28:00,820 --> 02:28:03,140
So I'm really big on Allie
Jennings.

2929
02:28:03,140 --> 02:28:06,940
I think he's going to be an all
conference type of player, that

2930
02:28:06,980 --> 02:28:09,220
receiver.
Then you add felt and then you

2931
02:28:09,220 --> 02:28:10,980
also add lane at receiver.
So.

2932
02:28:11,330 --> 02:28:13,570
I think comparing this year,
it's election office that's

2933
02:28:13,570 --> 02:28:17,690
going to be a big step forward
and I think them just finding

2934
02:28:17,690 --> 02:28:21,730
identity as far as whether it's
on blocking or you know getting

2935
02:28:21,730 --> 02:28:23,050
the ball down the field more
vertically.

2936
02:28:23,250 --> 02:28:25,650
I think them actually trying to
identify those things and

2937
02:28:25,730 --> 02:28:28,730
actually focusing on what they
are as an offense that makes it

2938
02:28:28,730 --> 02:28:31,210
feel a whole lot better pull to
this scrambling and trying to

2939
02:28:31,210 --> 02:28:33,890
figure things out.
So that being said, a little bit

2940
02:28:33,890 --> 02:28:37,770
about the offense, I'm a bit
concerned with the Mike

2941
02:28:37,930 --> 02:28:40,410
linebacker situation.
I know we have two really good

2942
02:28:40,410 --> 02:28:43,590
guys.
Battling out, I think will be,

2943
02:28:43,630 --> 02:28:46,710
you know, a good fit, but that
they're not kind of solidified

2944
02:28:46,710 --> 02:28:50,390
that they think Mike's a very
important position to kind of

2945
02:28:50,390 --> 02:28:55,310
have in that type of defense.
Then with those guy hearings and

2946
02:28:55,310 --> 02:28:59,270
the lack of death, I should say.
But between Mike and Will, I'm

2947
02:28:59,270 --> 02:29:01,990
kind of concerned there just
because that tech defense did

2948
02:29:01,990 --> 02:29:05,990
struggle part of the open field
tackling once you got to that

2949
02:29:05,990 --> 02:29:08,550
second level, I think they'll be
better.

2950
02:29:09,010 --> 02:29:11,210
But I don't feel great about
linebacker.

2951
02:29:11,210 --> 02:29:12,730
I know Sisdale's been there for
quite a while.

2952
02:29:12,730 --> 02:29:16,330
I liked him earlier in his
career, kind of took a step back

2953
02:29:17,890 --> 02:29:19,450
linebacker.
I'm a bit concerned and I'm

2954
02:29:19,450 --> 02:29:21,770
hoping they can kind of, you
know, pick up and do a little

2955
02:29:21,770 --> 02:29:22,730
bit better than what they did
last.

2956
02:29:24,610 --> 02:29:26,010
Year.
Yeah, definitely a spot that,

2957
02:29:26,050 --> 02:29:29,210
you know, there's some question
marks especially, you know, you

2958
02:29:29,210 --> 02:29:31,690
know for for for all that he did
during the time there.

2959
02:29:31,690 --> 02:29:34,450
You know, that's definitely a
leader back there and everybody

2960
02:29:34,450 --> 02:29:37,350
where they need to be so.
Losing that leadership is going

2961
02:29:37,350 --> 02:29:39,430
to be interesting to see who
steps up there, Dwight, what you

2962
02:29:39,430 --> 02:29:43,190
got for this one, you know?
The first part of the question

2963
02:29:43,190 --> 02:29:45,590
about what I'm excited for, you
know, right.

2964
02:29:45,590 --> 02:29:46,870
Is that the first part?
Yeah.

2965
02:29:47,030 --> 02:29:49,630
Yeah, especially, man.
I'm excited man, because from

2966
02:29:49,630 --> 02:29:53,030
day one, you know, I knew Pry.
Pry was the right guy.

2967
02:29:54,830 --> 02:29:56,310
I knew it.
I I just knew it.

2968
02:29:56,350 --> 02:29:58,310
You know, for the record, I said
this on you guys.

2969
02:29:58,310 --> 02:30:00,470
I've been on Y'all Show a lot.
I've said it on other shows,

2970
02:30:00,830 --> 02:30:04,670
including the Suns The Saturday,
I was rooting for Fuente.

2971
02:30:05,070 --> 02:30:07,990
I wanted Fuente and his staff to
win because I'm a hokey first.

2972
02:30:08,430 --> 02:30:11,590
I think now I look back on it,
it's tough to replace a legend.

2973
02:30:12,150 --> 02:30:15,390
It just is.
But I I just feel like pride

2974
02:30:15,390 --> 02:30:17,510
gets it, you know?
It's tough because I know a lot

2975
02:30:17,510 --> 02:30:21,150
of former coaches and guys
wanted to to be on that staff

2976
02:30:21,150 --> 02:30:24,110
with him, including to my
brother, Todd Washington, Jane

2977
02:30:24,110 --> 02:30:25,670
Graham.
I know Stein Spring made it

2978
02:30:25,670 --> 02:30:28,590
known he wanted to come back.
So that shows you how much guys

2979
02:30:28,590 --> 02:30:31,310
love pride, that coach with him
and against him.

2980
02:30:31,840 --> 02:30:34,040
I think the fact that he went
away as I mentioned earlier in

2981
02:30:34,040 --> 02:30:37,640
y'all show and went to Penn
State and and saw how it was

2982
02:30:37,640 --> 02:30:40,160
done there in the in the
probably arguably the best

2983
02:30:40,160 --> 02:30:43,800
conference helps Tech
tremendously because it was

2984
02:30:43,800 --> 02:30:46,640
similar to when Weaver got to
tech as an A Ed.

2985
02:30:46,640 --> 02:30:48,200
He had been at Florida and Penn
State.

2986
02:30:48,200 --> 02:30:51,640
So he saw what it took to take
tech to the next level as we

2987
02:30:51,640 --> 02:30:56,400
entered into the 2000s.
I just think you know it's I'm

2988
02:30:56,400 --> 02:30:58,280
very optimistic.
I knew he was going to recruit

2989
02:30:58,280 --> 02:31:00,320
well.
I knew he was going to get guys.

2990
02:31:00,840 --> 02:31:05,720
Not just the 757 guys, but you
know, Virginia and New Jersey

2991
02:31:05,720 --> 02:31:08,240
and DC, Maryland, that
Mid-Atlantic in the South.

2992
02:31:08,240 --> 02:31:11,160
You know, I think we're only
getting started there when I'm

2993
02:31:11,160 --> 02:31:14,160
afraid or what worries me is not
the exes and nose.

2994
02:31:14,160 --> 02:31:17,320
He's got a very competent staff.
I love Billy's point about Ma

2995
02:31:17,480 --> 02:31:19,560
being a star.
I completely agree.

2996
02:31:20,040 --> 02:31:22,960
Pierson Prelo is the one of the
best football minds I've ever

2997
02:31:22,960 --> 02:31:25,960
been around, along with Tony and
Gray.

2998
02:31:26,260 --> 02:31:27,500
You know, he's no longer
coaching with us.

2999
02:31:27,500 --> 02:31:30,100
He's down in South Carolina.
I remember the great defensive,

3000
02:31:30,100 --> 02:31:32,340
according to Greg Williams
called Pierson Frelo when he

3001
02:31:32,340 --> 02:31:34,540
coached with the Washington
Redskins.

3002
02:31:34,540 --> 02:31:38,340
Now commanders, he said Pierson
Frelo was his smartest player.

3003
02:31:38,620 --> 02:31:41,140
This is a pro NFL defensive
court.

3004
02:31:41,140 --> 02:31:44,020
That shows you what kind of
pedigree Pierson Frelo has.

3005
02:31:44,500 --> 02:31:46,740
I don't worry about our staff.
I don't worry about recruiting.

3006
02:31:47,220 --> 02:31:50,060
My concern Billy touched on this
is not the future of a Gene

3007
02:31:50,060 --> 02:31:54,060
Tech, but just making sure we
have the best fan base.

3008
02:31:54,550 --> 02:31:57,150
And I know people say this, but
we have a top five, top three

3009
02:31:57,150 --> 02:31:59,830
fan base.
The fan base is so good it got

3010
02:31:59,830 --> 02:32:04,310
us a Sugar Bowl berth in 2011.
We were 11 and two we finished

3011
02:32:04,310 --> 02:32:05,710
behind Clemson.
We were.

3012
02:32:05,710 --> 02:32:09,190
We earned the right based on the
credibility in the record, but

3013
02:32:09,190 --> 02:32:12,430
our fan base travels so well.
Our fan base deserves a

3014
02:32:12,430 --> 02:32:16,310
championship.
But we have a very sometimes

3015
02:32:16,310 --> 02:32:21,590
impatient and irrational fan
base and my fear is that people

3016
02:32:21,590 --> 02:32:25,620
aren't patient.
Because we're in stage now with

3017
02:32:25,620 --> 02:32:32,100
the NIL the portal, I I don't
want us to become so impatient

3018
02:32:32,460 --> 02:32:36,540
and if if this takes longer than
expected what do we do because

3019
02:32:36,980 --> 02:32:39,460
you know people look at look
what Duke did last year.

3020
02:32:39,460 --> 02:32:41,500
It's almost like you know you're
expected to win.

3021
02:32:41,500 --> 02:32:46,540
I'm just because I I look at, I
know it's it's tough but I look

3022
02:32:46,540 --> 02:32:50,180
at UVA and even Pit.
Billy I'm with you.

3023
02:32:50,820 --> 02:32:51,780
I'm, I'm.
I know.

3024
02:32:51,780 --> 02:32:53,700
Y'all don't like pit.
I respect pit.

3025
02:32:53,700 --> 02:32:58,620
I got a lot of heat lash because
I tweeted about Narduzi what

3026
02:32:58,780 --> 02:33:03,420
what tech should be doing right.
But here's the thing they were

3027
02:33:03,420 --> 02:33:07,740
patient with Narduzi.
Look what he's doing now since

3028
02:33:07,740 --> 02:33:10,900
it's not fashionable in in our
generation now, this era of

3029
02:33:10,900 --> 02:33:13,860
sports and life in general.
But I think patience is

3030
02:33:13,940 --> 02:33:17,140
something we got to have.
And on the flip side, mention

3031
02:33:17,140 --> 02:33:19,580
UVA.
You know, I played during the

3032
02:33:19,580 --> 02:33:23,220
Golden era, the UVA Tech
rivalry, but since then, and I'm

3033
02:33:23,220 --> 02:33:26,500
not taking shots at them, but
other than the Perkins year,

3034
02:33:26,500 --> 02:33:30,420
they've been irrelevant for a
very, very, very long time.

3035
02:33:30,980 --> 02:33:33,900
And last year, like Luther,
Maddie said, for the first time

3036
02:33:34,180 --> 02:33:39,140
in my life affiliate with Tech.
When I watched Tech play, I was

3037
02:33:39,140 --> 02:33:42,780
praying for the game to be over.
I.

3038
02:33:43,420 --> 02:33:46,060
Was and that it was.
It was tough to watch.

3039
02:33:46,430 --> 02:33:49,910
And and I realized how
irrelevant we were despite

3040
02:33:49,910 --> 02:33:53,230
having that fan base.
So my fear is that this doesn't

3041
02:33:53,230 --> 02:33:55,630
get done.
All this work prides doing that

3042
02:33:55,670 --> 02:33:59,270
we don't turn the corner and get
back to what we and exceed what

3043
02:33:59,270 --> 02:34:01,750
we used to be.
I don't, I don't want to be

3044
02:34:01,750 --> 02:34:03,350
irrelevant.
I live in the DMV.

3045
02:34:03,790 --> 02:34:07,110
My dad and fatherinlaw die hard
Washington Commanders fans.

3046
02:34:07,510 --> 02:34:10,230
And they live more on the glory
days and trying to beat the

3047
02:34:10,230 --> 02:34:12,390
Cowboys and actually winning
games.

3048
02:34:12,890 --> 02:34:15,930
I'm like, y'all are so bad that
y'all y'all y'all look forward

3049
02:34:15,930 --> 02:34:18,770
to beating the Cowboys and the
Eagles and not actually being

3050
02:34:18,770 --> 02:34:21,570
relevant.
That's how bad y'all become.

3051
02:34:21,730 --> 02:34:25,130
I do not want Tech to be like
we're going to beat UVA this

3052
02:34:25,130 --> 02:34:26,210
year.
That's not the.

3053
02:34:26,250 --> 02:34:30,090
Goal.
I'm from the era where we were

3054
02:34:30,090 --> 02:34:32,610
both ranked, we were both good
and we were going to go to a big

3055
02:34:32,610 --> 02:34:36,130
time bowl and have a chance to
maybe play for a championship.

3056
02:34:36,690 --> 02:34:40,330
So it's a long answer, but
that's what I I secretly worry

3057
02:34:40,330 --> 02:34:44,580
about that Sometimes I do not.
Want us to if we lose Labor Day

3058
02:34:44,580 --> 02:34:50,780
night, bro, stay, stay where you
are, man.

3059
02:34:50,780 --> 02:34:54,740
As far as where you at mindset
wise, I just want to I'm I'm

3060
02:34:54,740 --> 02:34:56,180
going to go to something a
little different.

3061
02:34:56,180 --> 02:34:59,020
I was just sitting here looking
at a couple things, but I think

3062
02:34:59,180 --> 02:35:01,420
we talked about it on one of the
other segments, Josh Fuller

3063
02:35:01,420 --> 02:35:03,580
said.
I don't know the direct quote,

3064
02:35:03,580 --> 02:35:06,820
but he said Virginia Tech is
back, the lunch pill is back,

3065
02:35:07,360 --> 02:35:11,280
we're back.
Something like that at at a CC.

3066
02:35:11,280 --> 02:35:16,080
Media Day, Media day.
So again, I'll tell you kind of

3067
02:35:16,080 --> 02:35:18,280
my answer and I want to just
hear from from y'all what you

3068
02:35:18,280 --> 02:35:20,560
think.
I don't think that we're back,

3069
02:35:20,800 --> 02:35:25,160
you know what I'm saying, as far
as back to what Virginia Tech

3070
02:35:25,160 --> 02:35:27,680
is.
But I was sitting here looking

3071
02:35:27,680 --> 02:35:34,840
at, looking at D'Angelo Hall,
Just highlights.

3072
02:35:35,340 --> 02:35:37,340
You know, you can type in
D'Angelo Hall highlights from

3073
02:35:37,340 --> 02:35:39,460
Virginia Tech.
And the reason that I did is

3074
02:35:39,460 --> 02:35:41,980
because Delaine is wearing a
mansoor.

3075
02:35:41,980 --> 02:35:45,460
Delaine is wearing #4 this year.
And I don't know if nobody's

3076
02:35:45,460 --> 02:35:48,500
prepped the young man or what
number 4 means in that

3077
02:35:48,500 --> 02:35:51,740
backfield.
But like I watched the play, we

3078
02:35:51,740 --> 02:35:54,860
was playing Miami.
When D Hall comes up and he

3079
02:35:54,860 --> 02:35:58,260
strips that, he comes up to make
a form tackle, give it.

3080
02:35:58,860 --> 02:36:01,900
He strips the ball and takes it
and goes and scores.

3081
02:36:01,900 --> 02:36:05,220
And not only does he take it in
score, it's like it was swag

3082
02:36:05,220 --> 02:36:07,580
when he did it.
Like once he got to the when he

3083
02:36:07,580 --> 02:36:11,020
got to the when he got to the
end zone, he knew what to do.

3084
02:36:11,140 --> 02:36:12,700
Like he knew how to put on the
show.

3085
02:36:13,100 --> 02:36:15,620
You know, I look at another it
was another pick out.

3086
02:36:15,660 --> 02:36:18,860
It may have been West Virginia.
He takes the pick and he's

3087
02:36:18,860 --> 02:36:20,980
pointing people out, hey, you
block him.

3088
02:36:20,980 --> 02:36:23,860
You block him like he knew what
to do with the ball.

3089
02:36:23,860 --> 02:36:27,380
And it's been so long since
we've seen Virginia Tech just be

3090
02:36:27,940 --> 02:36:29,420
dominant like that on the back
end.

3091
02:36:29,420 --> 02:36:32,300
And then you have the the Luther
Maddies on the line that's

3092
02:36:32,300 --> 02:36:34,620
making eight again.
I'm going back to it.

3093
02:36:35,100 --> 02:36:39,540
A CCACC defensive line.
You know what I'm saying?

3094
02:36:39,540 --> 02:36:42,980
Like all ACC defensive line, to
get back to that lunch Bell

3095
02:36:42,980 --> 02:36:46,900
defense would be great.
What do y'all need to see to to

3096
02:36:47,020 --> 02:36:52,740
say we back?
I think to your it's that

3097
02:36:52,740 --> 02:36:54,140
confidence, right?
Like I think.

3098
02:36:56,680 --> 02:36:59,320
Like those guys have been in the
program probably 2 weeks and

3099
02:36:59,320 --> 02:37:02,160
they're making plays and they're
just out there having fun,

3100
02:37:02,240 --> 02:37:03,520
right.
And I don't really see this

3101
02:37:03,560 --> 02:37:06,360
early in the in the on the show.
Like a lot of times guys are

3102
02:37:06,360 --> 02:37:09,080
kind of just timid you know like
when I I know when I was playing

3103
02:37:09,400 --> 02:37:11,320
it was 11 hats to the full
football.

3104
02:37:11,320 --> 02:37:12,880
I'm not gonna late hit every now
and again too.

3105
02:37:13,280 --> 02:37:16,440
I just want to jump on the paw
and just touch the running bat.

3106
02:37:16,440 --> 02:37:17,800
I just want to put my hand on
you right.

3107
02:37:17,800 --> 02:37:20,320
Like, that was my goal.
And I kind of got that from guys

3108
02:37:20,320 --> 02:37:22,680
like Bruce Taylor and and James
Gay.

3109
02:37:22,680 --> 02:37:24,720
Like he always want to finish
and you know, get to the.

3110
02:37:25,180 --> 02:37:27,140
Get to the ball carrier.
So I think it's more of that

3111
02:37:27,140 --> 02:37:31,300
guys just being more confident,
their ability being loser,

3112
02:37:31,420 --> 02:37:32,900
right.
I think playing, I talk about

3113
02:37:32,900 --> 02:37:34,980
defense so much.
I think you just win games.

3114
02:37:34,980 --> 02:37:36,380
I'm just being a bit biased
there.

3115
02:37:36,780 --> 02:37:38,500
You got to be, you got to just
be a dog.

3116
02:37:38,500 --> 02:37:42,220
Well, I know it sounds like
it's, you know, football, pep

3117
02:37:42,220 --> 02:37:44,500
talk or whatever.
It's true, like you got to got

3118
02:37:44,500 --> 02:37:46,740
to live a hat to the football
and you got to be out and you

3119
02:37:46,740 --> 02:37:49,620
just want to lay your pants out.
So I think they get to the point

3120
02:37:49,620 --> 02:37:52,260
where they're feeling confident,
they're playing loser and they

3121
02:37:52,260 --> 02:37:55,640
trust their teammate.
Then they can come back and they

3122
02:37:55,640 --> 02:37:58,200
can actually, you know, be more
confident with that lunch pay

3123
02:37:58,240 --> 02:38:00,840
and do those type of things to
be a dominant football team.

3124
02:38:02,280 --> 02:38:08,560
I don't mean to go to go yoga.
I don't need to go like Yoda,

3125
02:38:08,560 --> 02:38:12,120
Buddhist culture on you here.
But at the end of the day, I

3126
02:38:12,120 --> 02:38:14,640
think one of the things we got
to realize is everybody's

3127
02:38:14,640 --> 02:38:16,840
concerned with like, are we back
at or are we not.

3128
02:38:17,280 --> 02:38:20,200
It's not a it's not a it's not a
yes or no thing.

3129
02:38:20,200 --> 02:38:22,240
It's if you're lost in the
forest and you don't know what

3130
02:38:22,240 --> 02:38:24,520
direction you're going.
You know what your next step is

3131
02:38:24,520 --> 02:38:26,360
going to be?
And I think Tech just needs to

3132
02:38:26,520 --> 02:38:30,400
find a way each week, each year,
each month to just get better as

3133
02:38:30,400 --> 02:38:33,120
they go along.
And if they can stay focused on

3134
02:38:33,120 --> 02:38:36,240
that and stop having this thing
over their head of like are we

3135
02:38:36,240 --> 02:38:39,440
back, are we not, Are we
supposed to be just just improve

3136
02:38:39,440 --> 02:38:41,960
day-to-day?
And I think that you can say

3137
02:38:41,960 --> 02:38:44,600
confidently with the way that
this offseason is gone, the way

3138
02:38:44,600 --> 02:38:46,960
the recruiting has gone and the
way that the conversation around

3139
02:38:46,960 --> 02:38:49,590
Virginia Tech has been.
That we are headed in the right

3140
02:38:49,590 --> 02:38:53,070
direction and when Virginia Tech
is back, everyone's going to

3141
02:38:53,070 --> 02:38:54,310
know they're back.
We don't have to.

3142
02:38:54,430 --> 02:38:57,230
We're not going to have to get
on here and and talk about what

3143
02:38:57,230 --> 02:39:01,270
percentage of back we are
walking.

3144
02:39:01,270 --> 02:39:02,990
In the right direction.
Is this one of those things?

3145
02:39:02,990 --> 02:39:06,390
If you have to ask, you're not,
Like if you're if you're having

3146
02:39:06,390 --> 02:39:08,070
to ask, are you back?
You're not back yet.

3147
02:39:08,150 --> 02:39:09,990
Like, just don't think about
eating the whole whale, man.

3148
02:39:10,030 --> 02:39:11,910
Take take a bite at a time, you
know what I'm saying?

3149
02:39:11,910 --> 02:39:13,950
It's, you know, you just got to
go in the right direction, I

3150
02:39:13,950 --> 02:39:14,910
think.
I think we're doing that.

3151
02:39:15,150 --> 02:39:17,350
Yeah, I yeah, I'm with Billy, I
think.

3152
02:39:18,400 --> 02:39:21,160
I think young dudes, I get it.
I like the confidence and we're

3153
02:39:21,160 --> 02:39:22,880
back lunch pill.
That's cool.

3154
02:39:22,880 --> 02:39:25,960
That's fun.
You know I know I'm an OG.

3155
02:39:25,960 --> 02:39:28,120
I'm.
I'm fine with that that mindset.

3156
02:39:28,120 --> 02:39:34,760
But again you will know tech is
back when it's a close game and

3157
02:39:34,760 --> 02:39:37,440
you have no doubt that the
defense or the special teams,

3158
02:39:37,440 --> 02:39:38,720
the office is going to make a
play.

3159
02:39:39,440 --> 02:39:41,160
You'll know that you like when D
Hall.

3160
02:39:42,030 --> 02:39:46,350
Miami came into Blacksburg that
night in 2003 on a 30 something

3161
02:39:46,350 --> 02:39:51,150
3738 game-winning streak.
The airs are all set on Tuesday

3162
02:39:51,470 --> 02:39:53,230
during the press.
Come, this was my boy, that's my

3163
02:39:53,230 --> 02:39:55,270
brother.
He played after me.

3164
02:39:55,270 --> 02:39:58,590
He said, Yo, I think Miami's
beatable mind you, they just

3165
02:39:58,590 --> 02:39:59,790
came.
They're coming in there.

3166
02:39:59,790 --> 02:40:02,670
They won national championship.
They own a 30 something plus

3167
02:40:02,670 --> 02:40:06,310
game-winning streak because
Miami game team is that good.

3168
02:40:06,310 --> 02:40:07,270
I don't think they're that
strong.

3169
02:40:07,730 --> 02:40:09,450
And he he said it and Bema got
mad.

3170
02:40:09,530 --> 02:40:14,090
He put a muzzle on him that week
not figured Bema said stop.

3171
02:40:15,170 --> 02:40:17,570
So the all went out there and
showed you what he meant.

3172
02:40:17,570 --> 02:40:19,850
He set the tone beginning the
game.

3173
02:40:19,890 --> 02:40:23,410
Eric Green got to pick six.
They made Brock Berliner like he

3174
02:40:23,410 --> 02:40:25,210
should have been playing in the
Lego League.

3175
02:40:25,210 --> 02:40:28,730
Okay, you know what I'm saying.
At the end of the day, they

3176
02:40:28,730 --> 02:40:31,290
showed us.
I remember watching games with

3177
02:40:31,290 --> 02:40:36,010
my wife and it when we in 2007
after the Virginia Tech tragedy

3178
02:40:36,090 --> 02:40:39,210
that affected us forever.
We were in a dogfight with Chris

3179
02:40:39,210 --> 02:40:41,570
Johnson in East Carolina.
East Carolina has been a rival.

3180
02:40:41,570 --> 02:40:44,170
It was a dogfight.
We would have better team but we

3181
02:40:44,170 --> 02:40:46,130
were flat because of all the
emotion.

3182
02:40:46,250 --> 02:40:48,610
First game, back league course,
so game days there.

3183
02:40:48,930 --> 02:40:51,210
She looks at me and says defense
has got a score.

3184
02:40:51,570 --> 02:40:55,050
The next series, Macho Harris
gets a pick, takes it, you know

3185
02:40:55,050 --> 02:40:57,490
we had to and takes it in for a
touchdown.

3186
02:40:58,130 --> 02:41:02,770
That's how you knew Virginia
Tech was back even in 2015, 2014

3187
02:41:03,210 --> 02:41:05,930
I was looking this up just to
make sure I was right. 2013, we

3188
02:41:05,930 --> 02:41:09,190
went eight and five.
Those were lean years, down

3189
02:41:09,190 --> 02:41:13,270
years, and we were still 897
wins even after that debacle

3190
02:41:13,270 --> 02:41:15,350
against Wake Forest.
The three overtime game we're

3191
02:41:15,350 --> 02:41:20,110
doing like this and we had to
beat UVAUVA was was a solid team

3192
02:41:20,150 --> 02:41:22,590
that year.
They were trying to get to the

3193
02:41:22,590 --> 02:41:24,510
bowl game.
That's the game before the game.

3194
02:41:24,510 --> 02:41:27,950
We both in the midfield and it
was about to do a fight, a lot

3195
02:41:27,950 --> 02:41:31,070
of, a lot of talking.
But Gene Tech won that game.

3196
02:41:31,990 --> 02:41:34,150
Bucky Hodges had the game, went
in touch and he also had the

3197
02:41:34,150 --> 02:41:37,140
long catch.
That's, you know, again, I can

3198
02:41:37,140 --> 02:41:39,540
keep doing this.
It's not really about so much,

3199
02:41:39,540 --> 02:41:41,700
you know, the historical
perspective.

3200
02:41:41,700 --> 02:41:44,940
It's just knowing your program.
Like right now, as much as I

3201
02:41:44,940 --> 02:41:49,660
love and you guys know how much
I love pride, I'm still

3202
02:41:49,660 --> 02:41:53,860
wondering and waiting to see who
we are right now under his

3203
02:41:53,940 --> 02:41:56,700
regime.
Because I don't really know our

3204
02:41:56,700 --> 02:41:59,540
identity yet because everything
I just described historically

3205
02:41:59,860 --> 02:42:02,300
was the Beamer era and Bud
Foster era.

3206
02:42:02,660 --> 02:42:06,850
OK, I'm waiting to see this new
era, you know what I'm saying?

3207
02:42:06,930 --> 02:42:11,170
So we will know when we back and
when, you know, we're three and

3208
02:42:11,170 --> 02:42:14,650
two or four and one and we know
K, it's a close game, What

3209
02:42:14,650 --> 02:42:16,210
should we expect?
Because everything I was

3210
02:42:16,370 --> 02:42:19,370
describing, we knew in a close
game somebody was going to make

3211
02:42:19,370 --> 02:42:22,290
a play defensively, offensively,
on special teams.

3212
02:42:22,330 --> 02:42:25,570
And that's kind of what it means
to be back, because we knew that

3213
02:42:25,570 --> 02:42:27,370
could happen.
That can happen.

3214
02:42:28,090 --> 02:42:31,050
I think what it is, is, and
Billy, you kind of alluded to

3215
02:42:31,050 --> 02:42:33,500
this.
We're not going to know we're

3216
02:42:33,500 --> 02:42:36,100
back.
It's just going to be organic.

3217
02:42:36,740 --> 02:42:39,340
We're going to walk out that
force and it's going to feel

3218
02:42:39,500 --> 02:42:44,420
like it did for me 15 years ago,
2007, 2008.

3219
02:42:44,420 --> 02:42:49,340
And it's like, you know, my
buddy from San Diego's calling

3220
02:42:49,340 --> 02:42:52,300
me Billy's hit me up in the DM.
Tally and Brian are Texan, The

3221
02:42:52,300 --> 02:42:55,260
White's Texas Luthers is in on
the DM, and you're going to just

3222
02:42:55,260 --> 02:42:57,500
feel it.
It's not going to be that moment

3223
02:42:57,580 --> 02:42:59,220
now, now.
It's not going to be like a

3224
02:42:59,220 --> 02:43:01,060
moment, but I think it will be a
moment.

3225
02:43:01,780 --> 02:43:05,300
When I say that because if you
tell me we're 4:00 and 1:00 and

3226
02:43:05,300 --> 02:43:09,220
we go down to Florida State and
I'm just just hypothetically and

3227
02:43:09,820 --> 02:43:14,020
it's late fourth quarter in 6
foot 6, Kalau lost and sneaks

3228
02:43:14,020 --> 02:43:17,500
through on the special teams and
get his hands out and flows the

3229
02:43:17,500 --> 02:43:19,780
game.
It's going to be that moment and

3230
02:43:19,780 --> 02:43:21,700
we're not going to know it right
in that moment we aren't.

3231
02:43:22,380 --> 02:43:25,060
But in a couple years, you guys
are going to be sitting across

3232
02:43:25,060 --> 02:43:29,380
from us, maybe on Zoom, maybe
we're at PK's, maybe we're.

3233
02:43:29,750 --> 02:43:33,590
Somewhere downtown, maybe we're
at Sharky's and one of y'all is

3234
02:43:33,590 --> 02:43:36,550
going to say, Billy's going to
say you remember that night,

3235
02:43:36,910 --> 02:43:40,710
that play and we're all going to
be like that was it.

3236
02:43:41,630 --> 02:43:46,270
That's when we were back right
there, gentlemen, Y'all do not

3237
02:43:46,270 --> 02:43:49,390
know how much it means to us.
Y'all joining us tonight.

3238
02:43:50,110 --> 02:43:53,390
You guys are pillars within the
Virginia Tech community.

3239
02:43:53,910 --> 02:43:57,430
You guys playing for the
program, you know?

3240
02:43:57,980 --> 02:44:00,180
We we started this thing up
three years ago.

3241
02:44:00,460 --> 02:44:04,340
Tally joined us this year and it
has been a ride and it's been so

3242
02:44:04,340 --> 02:44:05,860
much fun.
I look forward to hopefully

3243
02:44:05,860 --> 02:44:08,380
catching you all at the games.
Billy, we're going to be at

3244
02:44:08,380 --> 02:44:09,780
Purdue.
I hope you're there.

3245
02:44:09,780 --> 02:44:12,340
We're going to find you, buy you
a drink, Luther, Dwight.

3246
02:44:12,340 --> 02:44:14,260
If y'all come down, we're going
to catch y'all as well.

3247
02:44:14,660 --> 02:44:16,100
But we really appreciate it,
guys.

3248
02:44:16,860 --> 02:44:19,860
Man, thank you guys.
I know you know it's 11:45.

3249
02:44:19,860 --> 02:44:21,660
You guys have been on here for
for three hours.

3250
02:44:21,660 --> 02:44:23,900
Luther, it's great seeing you.
Dwight, it's great seeing you

3251
02:44:23,900 --> 02:44:26,840
and.
Brian Curtis and Tally, you guys

3252
02:44:26,840 --> 02:44:30,160
have done such a great job and I
think one of the things that I

3253
02:44:30,160 --> 02:44:33,920
learned early on was what makes
this fan base so special.

3254
02:44:33,920 --> 02:44:37,360
While I may disagree with a lot
of the people I love that people

3255
02:44:37,360 --> 02:44:40,320
I love that everybody gives a
damn and gives a shit.

3256
02:44:40,640 --> 02:44:42,000
And that's what makes.
So.

3257
02:44:42,000 --> 02:44:46,160
Special and you know credit to
you guys for for building what

3258
02:44:46,160 --> 02:44:50,480
you guys have built and I'm I am
looking forward to to sitting

3259
02:44:50,480 --> 02:44:53,000
down and saying that is that is
the moment that.

3260
02:44:53,580 --> 02:44:55,820
That we do get it going.
So great job by you guys.

3261
02:44:55,820 --> 02:44:57,300
Seriously, this was, this was
awesome.

3262
02:44:57,780 --> 02:45:00,180
I second that, man.
I second I told you guys last

3263
02:45:00,180 --> 02:45:01,740
night.
I tell you all the time, y'all

3264
02:45:01,740 --> 02:45:02,820
are killing.
And I love it.

3265
02:45:03,100 --> 02:45:06,220
And I'll say this, man, look at
all the people you got you had

3266
02:45:06,220 --> 02:45:07,460
on.
I know it's a lot of people that

3267
02:45:07,460 --> 02:45:11,620
couldn't make the panel but
between you know Jonathan and

3268
02:45:12,100 --> 02:45:15,180
Luther's joint they do and
y'all's and the things I do with

3269
02:45:15,180 --> 02:45:18,190
Mike and the things I do with
Danny Noakes we got all these

3270
02:45:18,190 --> 02:45:21,590
different imagine when tech
starts getting back to relevance

3271
02:45:23,430 --> 02:45:27,750
all the all the and we didn't
even mention the tech sidelines

3272
02:45:27,750 --> 02:45:31,750
and there are so many people
that cover this program that

3273
02:45:31,750 --> 02:45:34,150
wanted to see it do well.
Like Billy said, we might not

3274
02:45:34,150 --> 02:45:37,150
always agree, but when they
start doing well, it's going to

3275
02:45:37,150 --> 02:45:40,030
be crazy man.
Because you know, we when I

3276
02:45:40,030 --> 02:45:43,680
played it was just Tech sideline
and David till you know what I'm

3277
02:45:44,160 --> 02:45:44,680
saying?
Yeah.

3278
02:45:45,520 --> 02:45:47,760
Yeah, too.
He gave it to you.

3279
02:45:47,920 --> 02:45:50,080
MM Barber and those boys.
Yeah.

3280
02:45:50,080 --> 02:45:52,000
My yeah was that was them.
Now you got all.

3281
02:45:52,040 --> 02:45:53,400
But this is cool man.
I appreciate.

3282
02:45:53,400 --> 02:45:56,640
I I never take any love or a
chance to sweep my mind for

3283
02:45:56,640 --> 02:45:57,800
granted, man.
I appreciate y'all.

3284
02:45:58,040 --> 02:45:58,720
Man, Yep.
And we.

3285
02:45:58,720 --> 02:46:00,200
Appreciate you guys do a great
job, man.

3286
02:46:00,520 --> 02:46:03,280
I'm gonna hit a couple games.
Let's figure out a way to.

3287
02:46:03,910 --> 02:46:05,710
Get together as a tailgate or
something like that.

3288
02:46:06,710 --> 02:46:08,910
Yeah, drinks growing Curtis.
I wrote that down so I'll

3289
02:46:08,910 --> 02:46:11,510
remember.
I'm the guy with three kids

3290
02:46:11,510 --> 02:46:15,150
here, man.
Bring the wallet, Curtis.

3291
02:46:15,150 --> 02:46:17,590
Bring the wallet.
Drinks on our sponsor.

3292
02:46:19,230 --> 02:46:21,230
That's pretty good.
Yeah, there we go.

3293
02:46:21,870 --> 02:46:24,470
Jamison shots all around.
Jamison shots all around.

3294
02:46:24,630 --> 02:46:26,870
Well, listen, as we wrap up
tonight, I want to thank

3295
02:46:26,870 --> 02:46:30,790
Drayson, Wimbush.
We'll take Dan, Pete B, Dwight,

3296
02:46:30,790 --> 02:46:32,840
Vick, Luther, Maddie.
Really.

3297
02:46:33,000 --> 02:46:35,400
Ray Mitchell from the Suns of
Saturday?

3298
02:46:35,920 --> 02:46:37,800
David Cunningham from Tech
sideline.

3299
02:46:37,840 --> 02:46:39,720
Mike McDaniel from, well,
wherever?

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Mike McDaniel.
Everywhere from because.

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He's from everywhere.
And our own Shelton Moss for

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joining us tonight.
That does wrap up this episode

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of the Boundary Corner podcast
brought by Main Street Pharmacy

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in Blacksburg.
I'm Curtis Wilson.

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I'm Brian Sigler.
Visit our website

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boundarycornervt.com to listen
to all of our episodes.

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We also have a merchandise shop.
I shared that with Mr. Vic last

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night.
Go in there, check it out with

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some of the things we are
putting out why you're there at

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our website.
Follow us Twitter, Facebook,

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Instagram, subscribe to our
YouTube channel and your

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02:47:12,610 --> 02:47:14,570
favorite podcast source.
We're on all of them.

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As always, we let our buddy down
and rolling Jason long play us

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in.
He plays us out every week.

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02:47:20,010 --> 02:47:23,650
Check himoutjasonlawmusic.com.
He's also on Spotify.

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And check his YouTube channel
and his Facebook page is out.

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And as always, we thank you for
listening.

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Let's go.
Okay.