Hokie Hi Weekend Part One

0:45 And welcome back to the boundary Corner podcast with my partner's Brian Siegel and Jonathan tally. I am Curtis Wilson and this portion of this episode is presented by dr. Lourdes Jeremy counts at the Main Street Pharmacy in Blacksburg. If you love this podcast, the Hokies in the town of Blacksburg, make sure you are supporting the Main Street Pharmacy. When you make your way to town, whether you've raised their UD, prescriptions a tube of toothpaste or just want to stop and say, hello, let Jeremy and his team take care of you. The money you spent at Main Street. Pharmacy goes towards the things you support. So next time, you're in Blacksburg head on down to 301 South Main Street, fellas tally, I got to see you on Saturday, man. Face-to-face, meeting what a blessing after. What six years, four years, our long, it's been, it's been a, it's been at least four years.

1:37 It's been, at least for every day talking finally had a face-to-face meeting. That's crazy. I tell you man. It was a good time though. We, we got up at Sharkey's. We did some other stuff around the stadium. Yeah it was a good time. It was a good time to whole week. It was a good time though. Y'all hung out and drink Jameson with Jeremy's. What y'all did? Okay. Compared with Jeremy, I'm telling you something else. Italian is that a hat? You purchase this weekend because I don't ever recall you wearing that before. That is man, it is a new hat, man. It's crazy because we stayed in Bristol and as soon as we got there, I stopped by Walmart and they had a Virginia Tech section and a Tennessee section.

2:25 And I actually got this app from Walmart, then Walmart had that that's a Walmart and I seen it. I was like 12 bucks. Yeah, let me get on that Walmart and it's probably a large up to you. Curtis, we missed you man, missed y'all, two boys, and I got X like 20 times. Where's Curtis? We had a lot of where's Curtis everybody worried about Curtis and tally. I know you told them like Curtis got three kids Curtis can take care of the family and it was a good Down because what we're going to do after tonight, we gonna give you some high-level stuff we saw. Takeaways but Brian tally myself, we're going to get into the film room.

3:26 Mmm! Take a look at some plays, some things we're seeing, who are feeling better about in our fourth party here Shelton. Well he's gonna be diving into some data and some analytics stuff from the game. So in two weeks, yes to we're finally going to take a break and feel like we've been going for ever and ever. We've been going hard to last two months, man. Yeah, that's not a joke but that content out man, you got to get it out, it's fun. So in two weeks, don't know if he's going to be Tuesday or Wednesday. Yet we have figured that out next week. We're going to be coming back with you. We're going to, we got to spring game somewhere, and we're going to look at some tape and discuss some additional things that we are seeing. But tonight, let's just start this. You guys been talking about it already. Y'all are all around the bird.

4:11 All weekend tally. Drove up to Bristol stayed there. Drove up for the blast. For the day Brian. Let's start Friday night. You went to Sons of Saturday spring Jam. How was that? That was a blast, man. I rolled in like a little bit past starting time right there at 8:00. Went ahead and had to catch up a little bit because I was driving in from Richmond. Got to the hotel, had me a little love, little G and T, while waiting for the Uber sober over there, rolled in got a double gin and tonic in a tall boy beer to try to catch up with everybody a little bit went and talked to our good fellow Jeremy for a little while. Our other friend Faust was hanging out there so I was I was kicking it with them for a minute. Then I started making some laps made some laps talk to Southside Virginia's finest.

5:06 David Wilson for a little while. Told him that our boy Robbie is still having nightmares about trying to stop him 15. Years ago, 20 actually a little bit more in that, 18 years ago, now, at this point, right? Yeah, he's still having nightmares trying to do that. So called him for a while, talk to the Edmonds Brothers, all three of them were there. Got to catch up with and get to chat a little bit with our buddy. Pete be I gotta with PB we were doing the show with PB on Saturday. I was like I got a chat with this man for a while, so we talked for a good while our partner that's not here tonight, Sheldon, pull Through got to chat with them for a little bit.

5:48 Obviously shout out to the sons, Pat Billy Ray got to talk to Pat for a long while so that was good as well but the entire night was a blast man just seeing everybody together, everybody hanging out, everybody, you know, excited for the game, the next day so it was nothing but good vibes there at the at the spring jam. Now the question I have to ask you is because I know you were staying where in Christiansburg Radford Radford, total Ubers spent this weekend, so I spent as much on Uber, as I spent at the bar on Friday, hey, keep your head safe and I'd write about fifty five dollars on the Uber and I dropped about a little over 50 before tip on at the bar. So hey, it was a good thing.

6:38 Then you went and had your drink on had a blast, not worried about getting back to the hotel. That's important. Alright so that was Friday, night Brian. Did Texas. Pretty early. Woke up said feeling good. What about 7:30 0? That's a man. I was ready to go, man. Let's do this. Obviously you know, Brian texted me and said I said heading to Joe's you had any Carol, he's paralyzed, man. You and got him some donuts on Saturday morning, I saw yogurt. Let's see, let's see. Build up to Sharkey's because y'all got to show our keys. But what did y'all hit up that morning before you get to know you had to drive up to a lie. So when you got in, where did you get up? Oh shoot, we are so Friday night. We went to the, we got to Bristol and went to the casino and stay away too long, the casinos just being built there so they don't have a lot of stuff done and you got that's often.

7:40 But yeah. You gotta buy drinks and stuff like that. So I didn't get like super Hammered anything, but I got my drink on a little bit there. Try craps for about three hours, made a little bit of money and finally got home and or to the to the room and got into bed about 12:30. I say. Yeah, so we ended up leaving, we got there's about a two hour ride from Bristol to to take. So we left at left at 8:00 so we can get there about 10. And the first thing we did was we went to a couple of couple of like just stores bookstore.

8:22 I think was campus Emporium. Yeah, a couple other places like that, just to grab some gear. Because, of course, when you and I were Bama, you don't see like that much hokey gear at all. So it was like a kid in a candy store. Just, let's go to the clearance rack. Just grabbing shirts off the clearance rack, for my kids, and my wife and stuff like that. And I should have bought a baseball jersey. I've seen a baseball jersey. I wanted that I didn't get, but the term was moving so quick that by the time, I was really diving into looking for stuff. It was time to get the shark. He's so that's--that that we didn't have much time before we were headed there and that's what we did. So, and rowdies joined us here on YouTube tonight. Well, sounds like a good time and you know what, you going back to you going back to Blacksburg release one more time this year.

9:15 We know of, so you can tell you where is he then see what you do that after Adventure in from Radford over to downtown over to Carol. He's get you a donut, would you would you, would you get into? So, I headed up to. Well, first, I headed to Kroger had to get a little little PBR for the cooler. So then I had my, I had my gin and tonic in there with my PBR headed up to chicken. He'll shout out Drew and Mary. Got to hang it, there tailgate for a little bit while we were kind of waiting around. 44 Sharkey's. Shout out, Stephen Wright. Shout out. Dan folks, who got caught a ride with me over to the Sharky. So we hung out there have some drinks, had some little ham and cheese sliders good way to start the day and yeah about, you know, 10:45 got in a truck headed over to shark. He's parked out there and back and we got the party going. Okay?

10:13 So first of all, what was divided like It's your keys because from the sound of it, I did listen to y'all that place. I mean, y'all are there at 11:15 that place, sounded absolutely slammed back to limp on the line was around the door when we showed up at 10:45. Damn. And I didn't get there till about maybe about five minutes before you starting, because I was running late. So it was people already in and seated and it was just people everywhere. And they're like, hey y'all in the back. You know, I'm straight in the door, straight to the back. First thing I see a seagull with a big-ass straw hat on. And I'm like, yeah, that's him.

10:54 You know and if I didn't if I didn't know who I was looking for, I found them real quick. Yeah, it's hard to miss me in that hat, man. Yeah, hard to miss me to have thought he was writing that's there. Now now there has been rumors and y'all were there. So is it? True? There was, there was somebody just sitting at The bar. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Pretty pretty, pretty big guy beeping. Yeah. Yeah, it's crazy because I didn't even notice. I didn't like when I came in, well, you possibly muscle into the bad guy was gonna be line. You know what I'm saying? And I should have noticed that many black people around now, so, like a black person that big I should have been noticing, but I mean, I made a beeline to get back there and get started. And then somebody said, I was pretty cool. When you got Kam, Chancellor sitting at the bar, and I was like, Like he's here now and I was never a horse. Sure it's oh, man.

11:53 When I went back, of course, my wife's like, hey, do you know who that is? And he walks by and he still Jack. I mean, yo, back looks like a door and he's every bit of you know, 65 64, 65 just joked. So why tell her was actually sitting right beside us at our table. Oh shit, till it. Yeah. Tell it microbrew was sitting like I could have reached my hand out and touch them. And that's a big, that's a big man, you know? I'm a big man, but that's a big man, dude. Yeah, so my wife parent that to his Michael Brewer was sitting over there with them. So like the contrast between the two, that's pretty impressive, as well.

12:36 It was, it was a good time man. It was just everybody mixing them England and, you know, having a good time. And like I said, the Stars while I say Michael Vick walking into the stadium, no, Get to that a little later, but I mean just walking with fans taking pictures like is the spring game was definitely a good time. That was my first first spring game but definitely won't be my last. Hey Brian. We got to do some investigating here. One of our friends from back home works with a Steven. Right? Y'all gonna have to message Steven and a half, not things to not. See I don't think Stephen was a tech Alum, he just a big fan. So okay, hey, small world. All right, so y'all Sharkey's is always bumping Sharkey's.

13:16 Always fun. It just is, it always has been. It always will be. Did y'all get an O'Brien? You said you were up on chicken Hill? Did y'all hit any other tailgates on the way to the stadium or what else y'all do downtown? So this is one time where I almost wish the kickoff is for because it seemed like there just wasn't enough time in the day to do everything, I wanted to do. Nope, but between hit that hit the tailgate early because I wanted to I had to get a little bit of tailgate Vibes and start the day because I wasn't sure. Sure, your time of day whether I was gonna be able to get back up there so I wanted to get their say hello. You know, get that feeling in there before we went over to Sharkey's and by the time we kind of wrapped up and kind of hung out and kicked it a little bit after the show, you know, it's already like 1130.

14:02 We're like all right well we got a little time but we don't have a whole lot of time and you know, Jeremy throws out there. Let's go get a rail etat. So that's what we do. You have to get a regular top. It seems so Didn't I didn't I didn't go with my buddy that I was with Mike but, you know, we caught a big drink and they drink. And so he stayed down in Bristol with us and out and we were gonna eat the night before and I guess I don't know what he ate, but I know what he ate but I don't know of what he ate made him sick, but he was sick as a dog. So right after the, you know, the show at Sharkey's, every, but my wife went to the car. And was taking a nap and he was sick and I'm trying to check on him and make sure he gets this truck because he was weak and could barely walk.

14:53 So I say all that to say I did not know they were the times I went to the field so I ended up getting to the feel about like you know after getting everybody situated about maybe like 215, something like that and as soon as I parked it was a lacrosse game going on. So me just being nice. The I just walked right into lacrosse game at the ladies was playing man and I was like, it was pretty intense, I think they were playing Clemson so it was pretty intense. So I ended up watching it for like 20 minutes. Just, you know, people would tailgate now, you know, passing out drinks and food and I'm just walking slapping hands and watching some lacrosse. And next thing, you know, I'm looking down like, oh shoot, we got to get in because people start pouring into the stadium so that that At it like Brian said, it wasn't a lot of time to maneuver between the event at Sharkey's and then getting inside the inside the game.

15:55 All right, so what you're telling me right now is if we a if I can go next June, crossing fingers, I don't know that's a long time in the future, right 58. Did the podcast Roundup has to go at like 9:00? Yeah, we got to have a good like now we got a sitar to the rear. Yeah. Well, the problem was Sharkies unopened. 11. So right? But you know what on a game day like that calling people saying listen we want to get here now and do this. I got a feeling that open doors, why not? Because they know people don't come in and drink and make place money just saying just saying we'll do it at the pharmacy if we got to, there we go, whatever we got to do.

17:02 And I think that's kind of the way everybody's feeling right now is a lot of optimism and based on what happened with the game and based on what they've done with the roster. But let's talk about the roster makeup of the game. M. Do y'all think it favorite anyone side maroon or white, of course? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Big time. It was it look here for our house will say. I think your favorite maroon from jump. It definitely favorite maroon once we saw who the the scratches were. Yes. Yeah. And as, you know, if you, if you weaken the trenches, it's going to be not have a long day. So the lines were atrocious for the lighting. Yeah, for a little.

17:51 Here's the white team starting line you've got ganam, who is a true freshman out there. You got Jack, hollifield you got, Johnny Garrett, Jesse Hansen, and Johnny Dixon, no disrespect act to any of them at all, but the only one we've seen on a football field playing division, one football at a decent level is Hanson. He had his struggles and the one that looked the best for that unit on Saturday was Jack hollifield. And that's a good thing, that's a good thing, we'll get into that stuff later, but then on the other side, you had two more Brothers. Yeah, you had shit who's fighting for that, right? Guards, find you had Parker and metals as well.

18:35 Bernie Meadows, Brody that right there just told you like you knew as soon as you as soon as I started looking at the game and saw the rosters like that. It was like it's definitely no favorite this way versus that way. Now let me ask y'all boys this because of the makeup and y'all started seeing it. You know, we got that Friday or no Saturday morning started looking through it. Did y'all have one group which like I'm going to be I'm going to be interested to see what they look like together or that group together Talon:. Well yeah. So for me. Once I seen them more Brothers together, just because I know that there, when you look at the offensive linemen, they may not have everything, right?

19:17 But if they got you hear, people say they got a Mean Streak. If you can have two to three mean streak people close together and they can just Mall some people. They can just create some chaos and I was like, I think Brian may have said it on one of the other shows, I can't wait till I just see them. Do a combo block, you know what I mean? And He definitely got to see it really early. I mean them, combo blocking going to, the second level was pretty awesome to see. So I was excited to see that and I got what I needed out of those two. You know? Of course it was a couple of other things that you are excited to see but definitely the more Brothers being together that group as well as some of the other line meant.

19:59 You know, that's not the only two lineman, but those two lines and what were what, my eyes are, kind of fixated on because we got it. Currently a new center, you know, when when big more came on the show, and told us, hey, I've been working at Center. It was breaking news to everybody and to see him where he's progressed. We didn't see any bad snaps, we can see any fumble snaps its spring game but you know, just taking a look at it and seeing what we have. He looked pretty easy. Look pretty natural now, so it was good to see that crime about you. Yeah, you look the part he fired off. Well, you know, you talked about those double teams since we've been recruiting the more Brothers when you Get them. You can see the mean streak in the way they play. So yeah, I'm with you on watching those two, go at it in the in the trenches there they showed out. Well, giving me some confidence about where we're going to look like on the offensive line this year. But when I was looking at the maroon and white teams, I wish mine was kind of like a dichotomy between two things. I was like, I see drones.

20:59 I see the three transfer receivers. I see this offensive line unit. That is very, very Questionable, are we going to really get the best look out of these, these transfers and out of drones relative to the offensive line play. So that's kind of what I was looking for. And for the majority of the time there, it kind of answered itself. Unfortunately, especially once you found out who the scratches were. Exactly. And then, let's just go right into that net. We all saw the scratches my biggest disappointment on the scratches with Xavier chaplain, because of how he Playing those few times. We saw him last year where he had his lapses but there were a couple times he physically just dominated people and he's a true freshman physically.

21:46 I hated to see him go to your point Brown that really immediately significantly hurt the left side of the white team. And it also brought a third string her up because clearly it showed us protease the to at left your mom's the three. Anybody else y'all got out there that kind of disappointed in get to see Jalen Lane, you know, I definitely wanted to see kind of what we get out of jail in Lane, but of course it's spraying. If anybody's banged up, you don't want them to go. It's not anything, you know, you don't have anything to prove in the springtime so I understand them holding them out but I was excited to see him just kind of in his past. What do you look like in the Jersey?

22:28 Just maybe maybe running some route so we can see what he has. So that was a little bit of a disappointment when I seen, he was scratched. Yeah, that was a big one for me too, but you know doubly. So I think, you know, they Quantum right being out as well. I wanted to see how those two kind of work together in some trips packages. So that's kind of what I wanted to see and we obviously didn't get to see that, unfortunately. So that, that was the big one for me is Daquan, right? And then again, going piggybacking off of you because when we had the the pregame show, I was like, I want to see Jalen Lane. That was, that was my big dick. I was like, whoo! Whoo! We're going to see I will see Jane Lane. So not seen him out.

23:08 There was big. Not seeing right out there. Who y'all know? Probably favorite, favorite young hokey right now? So yeah, it was big. Absolutely. And, you know, the thing is you hear of your prize said, like Lane, like tweak to Sammy. So and so tweaked his back and when I hear them say that, it's just sounds like, you know, what? If this was a real game day, they do something for you and say, go out there and Crush. Shhhh but it's like you said, Talley this spring game. You got a little Nick. Nope nope we ain't trying to extend this any further? We got five months until the season starts. We'll figure it out then when the guys we mentioned that again I don't think more or less they have anything to prove in this game. They're they're not they're not fighting for a spot on the TV. They're not necessarily fighting for you know kind of getting significant playing time heading into the fall Camp. So sending them out, getting them that time to heal up. Up and not pushing an injury too far. I think is the best thing.

24:08 So in those situations, you definitely are on the side of caution abso-freakin'-lutely. So let's roll in here. We got, we got some awards to give and these aren't the awards. Brent Pride gave after the spring game sitting on the field with all the players because tally got to see some of these players up close and personal and we're going to start this as a yearly tradition. Every time we somebody gets to go to the spring game. We now present to you, Jonathan tallies BMF, Awards BMF and if anybody motherfucker, big motherfucker Awards, alright? Alright, let's start here. Let's, let's, let's start on the, let's start on the defensive line who are the two big guys that when you saw, you know, we were getting bigger, they're Italian. And I think when you saw these two guys, you said, we really big now, Yeah so number two, what Keyshawn Burgos He's listed at 65 240.

25:15 I think he may be a little bit bigger than that but when you seen him he looked he looked every bit of that he looked every bit of that in more. He was a just like I said, I said get off the bus type player just to see again, didn't watch a much in the game. Don't know what his production was in the game, but Watching him out on the field, warming up be a myth. All right, number two, number two, I had was number 14. Kyrie says like moist and oystering. Yeah, he's listed at 6. 42 38 BMF that's all I'm gonna say. I'm Brian.

26:05 You got anybody. You saw the own that. I'm gonna go with Lamar Lonnie jr. 65 3:30, right. That's a big motherfucker. It's one of those. One of those guys, you talk about getting off the bus, that's the guy. You want getting off the bus first? Yes, you want him off the bus first, everybody know. This motherfucker on this team, he ready to him. All right, all right, why anybody else on defense? But moving on to a couple of other people on defense, which we've already seen Kelly Lawson, but he looks the part of a football player, but one that was surprising to me was was most Phillips.

26:49 Okay, he he's a freshman man and he looked he solid, you know, he is, he is, he is solid, I'm not sure what his it was. Got him listed at 62 180 187. He been in college. Do three months now. Yeah, man. I'd be 200. Yeah, he's got to have more than one 87 on him, but if he's 187, it's it. Ain't no. Fad know where I promise. You that I'll tell you who stood out to me. Antonio Cottman. Yes, yeah. For like he's long. But he's also, he's solid, but he still Moves like a cornerback, right?

27:31 All right. I want a. Can I say one? Yeah, it caught my eye and then we talked about it on after Caleb, Woodson his yoke. Caleb LOL. Yeah. Be every bit of 215 or 220, he didn't even have a home. We did, they show the pictures and it was like, she saw some of the guys are when they got to him. It was just like, oh my God, like it was like 195, I think listed last year, he didn't went on, they didn't get him on the tech recruiting detect eating. Before he even gets here activity, big solid saying it, we lost a backup. It. Sam. That's the backup is saying. Yeah. When you look at him across the chest.

28:11 Oh yeah. Just the the with that he has there. It's a solid kid man. Yeah, definitely when nothing, but raise about the kid. I mean every time you see something talking about Caleb Woodson Sean Quinn's like yeah he moves like a safety. Hits and tackles like a linebacker. I'm excited. I can't wait for that guy to get on campus. All right. Who else? We got a couple more players, right? So going to the offensive side of the ball, the wide receiver shoot just slipped my mind, the transfer that just came in, they called Felton, they come on Felton, they corn. Felton is solid.

28:56 I mean I think they've got him listed at like 6:00 5 2008. Yeah, it's been a long time since we had a wide receiver that look like him and could move like he does. He didn't do much against spring game where you get to see him a lot, you know, make huge plays, but when he did get his hands on the ball, it's not one cornerback. That's bringing them down. It's a couple people got to hit him, so he was a BMF. Yeah, then what were, you got a little catch it run. That was, that was good to see cuz I mean, you can see you See the athleticism but you see how he runs the power to. So that was big and obviously with his height, you know, he's going to be a red zone threat. So, I'm waiting to see some jump balls to him later.

29:39 I got to throw Xavier chaplain in there. I know he didn't play, but that's a big motherfucker. Yeah. See, I'm on the sideline. It was different. It was different one that I forgot on defense to was Malachi Madison. Oh yeah, yeah, he likes to 3305. Yeah, he asked. So that's a big dude, man. You know, and again, getting away from those 260-pound. Defensive tackles should help us in the Run game. Hey, grab grass, grass, grass, and hold your ground. That's what we need you to do. Some time comes out looking like Tim settle did his senior year, but like a couple inches taller. Yeah.

30:25 Okay. That's kind of his frame. So you know, I'm he had a good, he had a good Saturday, so I'm hoping that we see some some other steps from him. Because if he takes another step, then he's going to definitely be kind of in that to deep rotation. I feel like. All right, so, there are the BMF Awards. If you have a BMF, you would like to present, please. Put us in the chat. We will definitely bring it up at a later point in time during the program. But now we got to go to the spring game. Post-mortem, we got to talk about it last week with Rowdy. Who's chit-chatting out here, here in the field house tonight. So he can't jump on because he be in and out. So he's chatting with his on YouTube, but we went through the group's, what we were looking for, what we were feeling. And as a post-mortem, what I'm asking my Gentleman to do and myself is where we feeling are we feeling much worse slightly worse, the same slightly better much better after spring. So I'm going to start here at the position group. We did the most investment.

31:29 In in the offseason and that's the wide receiver room. Brian will let you kick this one off. Since BMF was tallies big deal where are you feeling with the wide receiver room, right relative to how I felt before spring game. I feel slightly better because I was looking at it and, you know, the question we had was, who's going to be four and five. We had the three guys coming in is four and five going to be a problem for And five is not going to be a problem. And however, we end up with that rotation is not going to be a problem because God is Dale, went out there. Did some work Tucker holiday without their did some work between those two?

32:13 I feel like we are pretty set in the wide receiver room. When you look at the potential that Jennings and felt and bring in there and then once we get laying out there that can work in the slot, I'm really still excited about this. This wide receiver unit and we saw some separation. We saw guys that were making some plays after the catch and we saw some a lot more intermediate routes and intermediate games than we saw last year where it was either dinkin dunk or deep shot. We have some intermediate game and we finally show that that we have that capability. So I'm excited about that group. Callie. Yeah, so yeah, when we talk about the wide receiver room, I got to go with much better. Oh yeah, I got to go with much better because I knew going in, I thought I knew, you know, hey, we got a one and two, maybe a three already, we're looking for, maybe a 4 and a 5. I've all those guys are working like that. And what we saying, I don't know who's going to go where you know what I'm saying?

33:17 Like a good problem to have is when you have playmate. Everywhere. And not just the caches, and the yards and stuff. We seen the route tree. We seen some guys, like I think it may be the first pass that God has now caught. Like he put the lane, he put the lane some moves out here and like an out-and-out. And like you said, kind of an intermediate route, maybe like a 10-yard, 10-yard Route, 12 yard Route. And it was like okay my got something here and it's not that d'Alene was in such bad position but Sometimes, good offense. Just defense has is reacting. You know what I'm saying? Is sometimes when you got good offense, it just, it is what it is. So after seeing some of the some of the skills that some of the other wide receivers put on, I feel much better about the about that about that position group.

34:09 Yeah I'm with both y'all definitely feel better. I don't know if I'm at the much better yet. I'm definitely slightly. I think I'm probably slightly above you bra know slightly because it Like y'all said, it's not just like you telling you mentioned, we felt good about Jennings, right? It felt good about laying. Okay, they've done stuff. Then you saw felt and you saw Holloway, and you saw a guys, now, take their steps, and it was a little bit of everything. Like, Stephen got Nails, looks more Precision. Running his route taka Holloway has speed number Holloway has speed and then you saw, like you said Brian, the intermediate, you know, felt that and I'm running some in routes running some Slants, running some 10 yards. It's where we didn't have that last year and if you're talking about just setups, okay, it's a six-yard Slammy call it. All right, it's second and four to Play Books open now to do whatever you want because you're not behind it. So I'm definitely feeling better about this route. And I will shout out one player Jennings. Jennings had a couple misses early. Hmm.

35:11 And but, but to me, what's the mark of a great player? He had a couple tip balls. He missed a couple passes. That should have been caught. He refocused in the Second half of that game, he caught two very good balls and had some good catch and runs. I love seeing that because footballing, perfect, you're not going to catch the ball. Every time he knew he made the mistakes. He refocused. He caught it and he effectively made a good play. So I think the consensus here is we are feeling better about the wide receiver room in general and I don't know what. Oh go ahead, go ahead Sally. Yeah, and I don't know what, I don't know what Jennings has been dealing with but they said he was dealing with an injury. Or something, right? And they said and you could tell he was a little bit of a step. I don't say a step slow, but just a step behind what he normally is.

35:58 Yeah, even on that on a late touchdown, pass that he almost caught. I feel like when he's at his game speed, he catches that, you know, that's a touchdown a couple of other. You are the couple of other passes chemistry or just him when he gets to his game speed. I feel like that will I believe Paint him enough to say. Okay, this is what he is, you know, I'm saying, he's kind of a proven commodity, nobody knows what's going to happen in the game but when somebody's 1,000-yard receiver, you kind of know their 1,000-yard receiver. So yeah. Yeah, it was it was good like you said to see him bounce back and he's played a lot of football, man, and he's played a lot of football, so I'm sure he doesn't, he's not going to get routed especially not in the spring game, but he's not going to get rattled. We seen that firsthand when he's on Odie you, you know what I'm saying?

36:50 I never got held in. Check just about all game to the last of the last to drive. So anyway, yeah, I was definitely encouraged by the about a wide receiver room. Yeah, it was big for me because, you know, talking about the intermediate stuff. It almost seemed like we had damn near as many receiving plays greater than 15 less than 30 in that spring game than we had all lash. I know it wasn't that but it certainly felt like it. It did, it did and those are the plays that are going to move the sticks. Keep drives going setup, easier, second down. And that's what we missed a ton last year. By the way. Shout out on This Crew, Steven got Nails, guys know, got the most improved player on Offense. So obviously you know we're feeling great about one through five.

37:35 I am kind of that weight definitely. He's moving a whole lot better. Well yeah and it doesn't being further removed from that leg injuries helping as well. 1000% and also we got to remember we had to find out where that play is so we can take a look further, look at it about him cooking delaying because obviously if it's a story to tell you ain't got to look too far this in the first place. Let's go to next again not a big change but tally I'll kick it to you. How you feeling about this room after spring on that room is a slightly better just because I expect out of Malachi. I kind of knew what they expect out of him. I didn't see a whole bunch.

38:28 You had maybe one or two runs. What kind of tea does what he does. He falls forward gets a couple extra yards. Yeah just back to the running back room. You know, seeing to you know first play from scrimmage. He catches the catches, the rock should have been probably a tackle for one yard or no game. He cuts makes one man miss and goes for about what 78 yards. Yep, great to see that Bryce Duke and, and chance black. You know, they got busy, you know, it was nice to see a deep running back room because we know what happens in. Football, you know, somebody's going to tweak her ankle somebody. You don't want to say injury but it's football. Somebody's going to have to come out for series or game or play some.

39:10 So you're going to need some people who's not a huge drop-off there. And again, Malachi Thomas, he didn't do much, but I did get to see him make a couple of plays where he looked like himself, you know, he's not going down with one with one hit and he's falling forward so that running right room made me feel slightly better yeah. And Thomas was The handicapped with the offensive line. He was dealt, if we're being honest. So yeah, it's not seeing him. Be quite as productive as some of the other backs isn't, you know, that shocking to me. But looking at the other parts of the room, I liked what I've seen in the passing game from 290, we didn't record a carry and I think some of that was just gain flow, right?

39:52 So, I mean, there was some keeps on the some of those early Drives By Grant Wells that, you know, depending on the Read he could have got to carry the here there and then, you know, the other guys kind of took over after that. So Bryce Duke look good, still showing the same type of elusiveness kind of between the tackles chance black look much improved. Compared to what we saw last year. I think some of that was, you know, he's Shifty and he was getting to get be shifting at the second level. I'm not at the line of scrimmage, mmm-hmm, and I think that's going to help him Max. His potential in this offense. Yeah, so I like what we're seeing. I would give the grade wise, I will feel I feel slightly better about this group to because I feel like we got, you know, a guy that we can count on probably to that we can count on and then two other guys that are going to be good changes of Paces that can still get, get some yards and be productive in the offense and see what you just said. Right, there is why I put this room is much better because you do have to Dependable, guys.

40:56 Tune Reign for a thousand last year at AT&T. And if you start listening, earning about his recruitment, his stuff really should have picked up in 2020. It didn't unfortunately. Unfortunately for him it didn't pick up because of covid. So reality is he probably truly was a P5 player because of whatever happened, he wound up at AT&T, he went down there, he showed himself that he was a good football player. He came up and he saw it in the passing game. You saw Malachi have good run, but I look at the two younger guys, because to me, older guys are experienced guys. You know what they do? They do what they do but for me the biggest was chance. Black chance black last year had some runs where he was trying to go down side and wait and get the Edge versus cutting.

41:41 It was appropriate in. You saw Saturday, he got the ball, he was waiting, he made his move and he went a couple times. It was 34 yard gains a couple times. It was a good run is even longer runs. And with his past catching ability into bronze Point, we've got in this Coney to yeah, Coney Island. We had a couple good plays. I'm just trying to say that. So you've got him in the wings. Ain't thinking about Coney this year, let that man. Learn because if he's already shown it given the next year. But the bronze point is you got two guys. You can depend on two guys who have already kind of what they know how to do really good. Now we got to utilize it and we got obviously what's looking like, you know, a little bit better in a few It's, he will discuss that.

42:32 All right, Brian. Let's flip over by the way. Running back room Bryce, do you got a special teams MVP? I get a feeling he ain't returning punts but he's probably doing some kickoff returns if he's getting that award. All right, let's go to the tight end room. You know, Nick Gallo gets the leadership award he's been here forever. Great leader. A great role model, solid player, tally. This is, this is your room. And so, how are you feeling about this, man? I would probably say about The same when I came in just because I didn't get to see right. But right again a lot of people say, right? So proven commodity because of what we've seen from him last year, I want to see him block a little bit more, I wanted to know if he can go on the field and he can block so we can use him everywhere.

43:20 It was good to see. Benji back in the game. Benji you can still tell just a little bit for injury but he was moving. Really Ali good to be coming off, two big injuries, like that. I mean, you met some nice plays, you know, some nice plays, he's down there in the line he's blocking so it was good to see that. So but again, I didn't get to see right and Gallo got hurt as well. Yeah, yeah, Nick and they were just like, nope, game play. No more. Yeah, when Gallo got banged, like he went kind of weird and you saw moving, like I'm okay. But you know what, it's like the other guys are get Nick right?

44:00 And forward. Now you're good, you're good, you're good. Yeah exactly yeah and you know look at it tight in, I'm about the same I'd say I'd put slightly better only because I didn't know what I was going to get from Benji and seeing Benji, what he was able to do. Showed good blocking put a good wiggle on Kiante Jenkins on a scheme. Play Early in the The first drive there to get a pretty good chunk play. I feel a lot better because now I feel like we got three proven Commodities because I feel like Benji is stepping up. It looks like he's finally at a point where he can contribute at the level that we thought he could.

44:44 And that's only going to be good things, come fall. Oh absolutely, I'm definitely feeling better about their soon. Be kind of Benji, got now because with Benji Gosnell. Everybody's got to go back and look at that recruitment. Ohio State wanted him. And when he tore his ACL, they get to do what of Highland state in all the Big Blue Bloods do nah. You're good man, you're not coming here, right? So when you have somebody like that who then Ted gets to get that chance and now that he's coming back Like you said Talley after both those injuries. He is looking good. He's blocking that he's 65. He's 250 pounds that route. He ran, you know, you know that little that little is called. I don't know if it was a slant or if it was more of a 10-yard in, but when he got that ball, he was gone. It was a huge gash play.

45:39 Yeah. Well, these days shorter swing and he ran an angle, Rowdy like the E. Like, showed, even ran an anchor up. Yeah. What you look for in you? Tight ends to is them snapping that head around like your when you go out to do your thing and you run your route, are you getting at head around quick? And he was and as soon as you got it around, the ball was coming to him, he made it. Great catch me', you know, made a good play to, so we'll make some run after the after the catch, which is what we've been missing that. We talked about that earlier. We haven't seen a lot of run after the catch lately. So when we, when we, when we see that would like, This is the and in traffic, you know, run after kick, catch in traffic is definitely, you know, much neat. So you take a ten yard play and turn it into a 18-yard play or seven yard play and turn it into a 12-yard plate. That's, that's a winning football. That is winning, football hundred percent. But y'all say it all the time.

46:42 Ya'll say it all the time. You went in the trenches if the trenches play better, two teams going to be Better and Brawn is, I gave tally his room because that's his room, it will always be his room, but I giving you the offensive line room. Sir, tell me what you saw with the offensive MVP Parker Clements I will say I owe Parker clemmensen apology because because after hearing number one potentially, dealing with a shoulder injury, where he was not able to do, essentially, any, any major workouts leading up to last season and then combine that to what I've heard from Spring practice.

47:23 And what I saw on Saturday, this is what I expected to see last year. This right here, is what I expect to see last year and I think Some of this is the impact that crook has had since he's been here. I think some of it is him just being back to the player that he was leading up to that injury. So you know, my bad Parker, went at you hard and based on the tape at it was what it was it was just fine but you know, you turned it around so far. Let's see if that carries in the fall and we could keep talking nice about you on here. Yeah. But I'd much rather do that than the Alternative. So I think shout out to Parker Clements there, but it was everybody else to everybody else too.

48:09 All right. So, where'd you feel bored? The boys did some work. I love what, you know, we talked about already that those double teams. Look, good! Having those guys together. I think just the innate understanding that they have of what each is trying to do. That's going to nothing but help the fact that they went back you know years and years doing that together. I think that's A bond to build off of what I saw from. Brody Meadows was very encouraging in terms of having a third tackle, a swing tackle that we can put in there if we don't have Parker or chaplain available so those things right there. And again I already said his name earlier.

48:50 Jack hollifield, I'm impressed by what I saw. He's not blowing me away. He's not somebody. Let's say I want him to start. Definitely not, but he's also somebody that I wouldn't feel awful. If a guy went down him. Washing out a game and being able to handle that role because I did I wasn't sure about that before spring game. He looked pretty solid out again. Not necessarily a guy. You want to be your starter but definitely a guy that can come in there and give you, you know, eight to ten series to close out a game if you need to. All right, so where are you feeling? Same slightly better much better. I'm going to go slightly better only, because I didn't see enough in the guard category specifically, Right Guard to where I can.

49:32 All right, we've got enough on the interior depth wise. I feel like, you know, with the center and guard with the Moors, I feel good. It's kind of that third one, and then that extra one in the hole that I'm not quite sure about. So I would like to be a little bit more confident with my starting Right Guard. And if we, if we could do that, then I feel a whole lot better with a guy like Hanson or shit kind of being that swing guard that can sub in if there's an injury or somebody needs a blow. Well, I'm before tally jump saying I won't Go ahead and say crook feels the same way. We seen three offers go out for effectively three guards since its spring game. The kid in, Tulsa, the kid out of Wyoming, indicated appstate. So, he's feeling the same way you are. It's like, we feel okay, It Right Guard. We can be better, we can be better at right. Go tell me what you felt about the offensive line. Yeah, crook was feeling like I was feeling because he's saying that white team's offensive line, Brian. Some Kudos.

50:33 And I got a, I got to be the Negative Nancy on here. I'm gonna go ahead and take, I'm gonna go ahead and tell you, my, my, my grade was slightly worse because of that, second group, Johnny, and if your name was Johnny, I think you didn't do good. Just and Johnny y'all might need to start a boy band. I don't know what y'all gonna do, but you better get in the weight room and start blocking somebody number 79. 9i, only Garrett are going to be UPS if you don't get your mind, right? I'm telling you you're standing up around piles, you don't get rolled up on you, let your quarterback and you're running backs.

51:15 Get killed standing around hit. Somebody hit him in the back. Push a pinch of kick him in the nuts. Do something, don't just, but that's that white. Team's offensive line. I'm not even going to go with it at the Freshman 50:56. Kind of go with him. He just, he should be going to prom right now, you know, and he got that and he got the task to block CJ McGregor. We didn't give him a BMF award. But big, dude, solid guy and he can move. He's got, he's got some skill on the end. I'm excited to see him play.

51:57 The Freshman had Lined up against in the first place. And then we run like a quarterback a quarter of our po which if it was live. Does he really get him down? I don't know. Maybe, maybe drones make some moves and get loose. It's hard to do that when you got no contact but I know one thing 56 was beat and he was beat bad. He was he was received, he was cooked. So again, I'm feel like I'm not jumping off the cliff because I know we got a long way into the season. And I think that Ron crook is doing a good job. I seen more fight out of most guys, which is good and I know that he is trying to go get the stuff that we need. He said not a lot of offers for some Lyman which we need with a little experience and can come in and maybe fight for a spot. So I'm hoping that we grab some people out of the transfer portal and I would be, you know, probably changed my grade if we come in and grab a couple of couple of guys or if I could have seen Chad chap.

52:59 I probably would have my grade at either the same, or maybe slightly better, but I'm just saying slightly worse because I didn't see that stuff. You need to see. See I'm alive. I'm in the middle of. Okay, I'm the same and here's why I'm the same way we need to see. Chaplain. I think we see chaplain. I probably need with Brian but the reason I say the same in that slightly worse is how Brody Meadows plate? Brody Meadows played a very solid. Yeah, I spectacular, he played silent. He played two, Point where I know if Xavier Chaplin gets banged in the middle of a game we're not going to go out there and fall off a damn Cliff with Brody Brody show when you and when you look at those sizes like Bradley Meadows is a big kid too.

53:42 You're not 63 05? Yeah, you're dropping off a little bit as far as that but you're putting some big bodies in there so it's good to see them guys in there. But but what, but right now, the way I think we look at it is you've got like Six and you need seven you and that's why I'm the same now they brought I think probably what you. I think the reason Brian's going bigger for slightly better is because I think as I think I have a feeling you were staring at 58. A lot when white team goes out there seeing how Jack worked the oh yeah get that feeling. That's what I think. You looked at Jack so much and said Jax good enough where if some really fucked-up happens and we don't get that right guard and shit goes down.

54:28 Crook would feel comfortable saying hey hey Caden, Slide the Right Guard Jazz complaints, enter your another thing that Brian probably looking at because of being Brian, is our offensive line guy. He's probably looking at. Okay, who is who is anchoring your line? Who is the best person on your line? Yes, Smash Bros. And if you say the Smash Brothers, or if you tell you, if you say Parker Clemens, if you looked at just those three oh yeah. Right. They raised the expectation of what I thought Parker Clemens sucked, we all do, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's like, that's got to be something, you know?

55:16 And if he can emerge as a leader, which he's been there for a while, we need him to be a leader, so if he can come in and he can help some of these young guys, but also help some young guys. Bye. Showing his play like I think that's why I understand what Brian is. You know. I was on that on that kind of same level as well, but I had to be a little bit different cause he went first. Yeah, and I feel like we're close, right. We're close to being where we want to be. We're close to having that five that we're really comfortable with, and that eight, that were pretty damn comfortable with. I feel like we're close and if crook can go out there and find us a guard, a starting caliber Guard in the transfer portal.

55:59 Yeah, that would do that. That's going to be the piece that's going to put everything together down. If you still got to jail, you still got to get acclimated to the new system. I get all that, but discounting that I feel much better about a Hanson or a Chic be in my swing guard with Jack being a backup center, and Brody, being my swing tackle. I feel like that's your 8. If you can get some level of starting caliber guard, if we don't get there, then we'll see. Obviously we're back. To the handsome and shit Shuffle at Right Guard. Which I don't necessarily feel great about but I at least feel like, all right. Well, if shakes pushing Hanson, Hanson was a starter. Last year, we might, at least be marginally better than we were last year at that garbage Edition. That's a great Point, whether we're where we want to be or not.

56:48 So that's kind of what the way I'm looking at it, right, abso-freakin'-lutely. All right, let's hit the one. Last piece of the offense and I was quarterback. At which in this format, y'all know, I feel like Whoever has the better line regardless of skill, players is favored in that was Grant Wells, but I'm feeling better overall about this room. Yeah, me too. I am feeling slightly better to borderline more better because I feel like Grant has improved. And everybody said, well, Tyler being within this is going to suck, Tyler's, never coached, but Tyler knows the system and where he wants the ball to go and where players are Knowing how it's being blocked.

57:29 That's how he's communicating. It has no filter through one message. And not one message, not three coordinators with one with one, having the baby. And what we saw from drones without the best offensive line, without the mess offensive line. He he does look the part. He does look like the body. He has solid footwork to be a freshman and you saw him make some good throw. He had a couple catchable balls that were dropped. It's not like you have easily a red 94 13, With no pics right? And maybe no touchdown. But that is what it is. And then, and I'll say this last piece, let's talk about pop W. All right, first of all, I need everybody take a step back, okay? Bob Watson will not be starting any game and if he is starting games this year, we're in deep shit. Okay?

58:20 We're in deep shit. But he showed wiggle, he showed he had a good arm on that. Holloway Touchdown, let me roll. But let's control here, y'all. He threw that thing, flat-footed, you know, that's a thought he was kind of off of his back leg. You did know if you're playing against a one eye safety and a guy. Like, I don't think strewn was on the field at that point in time. You either a getting picked or be go back to kai-shan, Jared when he damn near killed, Tyler Boyd against Pitt about seven years ago. That's what you kidding with that ball. So control your narrative on Pop I could pop be our quarterback in two years, possibly, but the way I feel about it is you've got Grant and Chiron, fighting for the backup in the starting job, they're fighting for, they don't keep fighting for it.

59:11 But now if it pops our third and Pops running scout team, I feel better about our scouting because you got somebody Wiggly back there you got somebody who can make throws and it's not just what can this kid do? So when I'm looking at quarterback, and I'm going to give you migrate out the gate, I feel slightly better about this position group. I feel like we didn't get as good of a look of Cairo and drones as we could have because of the same issues that you were just mentioning with the offensive line. And in particular the spring game format in general, where you're not hitting the quarterback. If you're within the 3-yard Halo of Chiron, drones they were blowing the whistle, yes, one of the Biggest parts of his game is not just his athletic ability, which he can show a little bit in this format, but his strength and his ability to run through arm tackles his leg power, which you don't get to see in this format at all. So that's, that's the Balaban of his game where he didn't get to show off where that's going to play a big role in who wins this job.

1:00:22 Number 2 Grant Wells elevated. His is this is Is play. He ratchet it up. Compared not just compared to what we've seen in general, but relative to what we saw in last year's spring game where other than two bombs to Caleb, Smith burning Breann Marie. He didn't do a whole lot. He threw a few dumps down to gallo and that was about it. We actually saw him hitting receivers in various spots of the field. Intermediate 1 deep ball short stuff inside the hash outside. The hash we saw the things that we To see from him and the decision-making was better. He had one that was a borderline. Might have been picked off but everything else didn't even come close. And I think that that's a big step for him as well. Can that translate to live games that matter when the lights are on with the real lights?

1:01:16 Not just these spring game lights, I don't know. But then you couple that with what pop Watson was able to show you feel like you got a good quarterback for the future that can give. Give you enough now and then you got two guys that are actually battling out where we have an actual quarterback battle heading into the fall and not just, all right, well, we're going to say this is a good thing to keep Jason Brown around because we all knew that it was Grant. Well, job at the end of that spring game last year and I don't think we feel that this year. So I think that's big for us. Oh yeah, definitely. And then that like so what you see from and I do people like I want to bash Wells and things like that. I really don't, I just want to win. But what you see what wells was able to do was he was on a productive offense, that guy's wife, that's why you say, man, he looks so much better yet.

1:02:07 At one time, the running game was like, 142 - three, you know like you as a quarterback, you can't run RPO. If you don't have if you don't have a running game, you know what I'm saying? Like the wide open at drones now, no, no excuses for anything. Thing again, like you said, I'm going to say slightly better for that quarterback room because I seen drawings for, I think as bad as we can see him and I was still encouraged. Yes, yes, I've seen Grant Wells raise, his level of play from last year, but I liked about what I saying from Grant Wells was. He was more of a leader I seen in Motion in a little bit more. I've seen him kind of having fun with guys, after that ODU game, I feel Like he was a shell, I don't know if he was like shell-shocked.

1:03:00 It, you know, he just was trying to go in and do his job. You got to have a little fun when you're playing football, you know what I'm saying? But when you to pull her back and you got to see on your chest, you got to go lead, you know, we didn't see a lot of that last year under their first time seeing him out there in the spring and my seen a little bit more leadership so that was encouraging. And then I watched a lot of pot Watson, you know, High School football is much different than College. But I just feel like he has the it Factor, you know, he is a small guy, he's probably gonna have to put on some weight. I don't know that he'll be the quarterback at Virginia Tech in two years. I'm not, I don't know, I don't know what he does. I feel like we're going to be watching him somewhere at some school and we're going to go down that kids. Good you know hopefully we get to see him and in a hokie uniform and we say that kids good, but I feel like in the future we don't see him.

1:03:56 Starting quarterback for somebody or coming off coming off, when somebody gets injured and him going in and going man, that kids got it. So I feel pretty good about the about the quarterback room steel. Yeah. And I think the other reason where we feel good, as we know this defense is solid solid. We saw them stake their level up next year. We saw some plays on Saturday and that's another thing we saw both. Even the white unit have several drives and it was a mix match, you know, tally through. Enough. Hey who's this kid Curtis? And I gave him the pictures. Like oh, that's a walk-on all that's not you. So you knew of some Walk-Ons out there and everything. So let's hit this real quick before we close it up, run player real quick.

1:04:39 Brine, standout player for you on the offense on Saturday. standout play for me on offense, I would have to go Give me Steven guys, Mel. All right, because I feel like the way he stepped up his game. It was supposed shocking to me and I'm excited for what he can bring to the offense in the fall. He's going to go Steven guys nail I was going to go cold but I'm gonna go chance black I got a touchdown ran a touchdown just looked a lot better than what we've seen them do and he had a year to get spring game so I'm gonna go chance black. If I'm gonna let Curtis say what he's got to say neither will Circle back around.

1:05:26 All right, my standout offensive plate herbs were to Smash Brothers. Okay, but Moore's I mean no seriously, there was such a Curtis hanjin. No, no. It's just it's you saw them in tandem do some things and I know, luckily what we're going to do in two weeks is gonna be really fun because a couple of those run plays Callie. You said it about playing next to your best friend. You just saw it a couple times, they knew exactly what the other one was doing. And they were some Lanes just opened because I know I don't will mention as offensive stand out as got to be Tucker Holloway man albums, right? Look good, man. He's he's a little slim dude, man.

1:06:07 But he's got some speed. I think he may be. One of the players that can actually take the top off, which is what we need. You know, stretch the field a little bit and it was fun. It was fun to see and play. It was fun to see him out there. I dimension for me is Parker Clements honorable mention for this cat is Benji Gosnell because three tight ends they could get on the field and play. And I know he wanted to see right? And we didn't get to see him but I think from what he did and I think he wasn't being held out for playing battery thing. I think they said he had a Nick and it's just like, I'm fine. Don't play him with Nick. They didn't go out there and let him go out there and make people feel bad on Saturday, in the fall. All right?

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1:09:45 He had the, The Break-Up that led to the interception on that last drones drive that got deep into Two into scoring range, they're made great tackles in the running game. Had some good feels. So he was all over the place, making plays in the spring game, really excited to see him kind of take that next step. So that was big for me and obviously defensive MVP says it all. Yeah, definitely. It's just something about seeing a safety with the with that with the hair hanging out of the helmet looking like Predator. Going towards somebody, you know, to see him and people's back there wide open like that. That is, that is a good sight to see but I was impressed.

1:10:26 Also with most Phillips, man. I think you had to pick his well, like, yeah, the other typical. Yeah, another another kid. This supposed to be going to prom right now. Yes, yeah, it's playing playing football for Virginia Tech and show. Out in the, in the spring game and I think he was all over the field. He looks the part he is, I guess the lights weren't too big and I think he was again, it might not see him a lot. May not see him a lot this year, but he's already giving valuable reps in there. You never know when you're gonna need him. And then also, he can be this special team. Plus, it was encouraging to see what they have and safeties room. Yeah, I'm feeling we didn't tell a joke because I'm assuming slightly better.

1:11:09 Slightly better. Slightly better. Yes, slightly bent actually, give me give me much better much better. That's wasn't sure who we had passed the first two. I knew we had some guys. I didn't know if we had guys that we could count on rely on and kind of lean on, I feel like, between what we saw from most Phillips, what we saw from Jaylen Jones who was kind of an unknown commodity as well. Seeing those to step up, you feel like, you know, you may, I want a ton of series back to back with those guys having to run, but you at least feel good. All right, well, we can have them in there for series or to get the other guys, a blow, get them back in there.

1:11:52 So I feel like we actually have a little bit of depth to play around with it safety. Now that I wasn't sure about before this. So, I'm gonna go much better. I'm with you on much better, and it's, we mentioned, most it seeing him, you know, he can play Jalen Jones, I think, was the bigger question mark because Jalen Jones was slipping sides of the ball, Jalen Jones. Got special teams in VP for the defense shows you how good he played out on the defensive side of the ball, but just watching him in general, you talked about that, best hit by shell tooting. That first play Jalen Jones, missed, that whole up, and missed that. Tackle up in the Gap. Yeah, they Jenkins forced leverage. Cut tune inside. Right, to me, missed it. A few plays later, he fills the hole. He makes a tackle that could have been a seven or eight yard game.

1:12:35 It was like a three-yard gain for chance, black, right? And that's things you look for you. Guys who make mistakes and then they come back and they make a good play, right? And Jalen strowman. We said this earlier in, this is us and he is no longer little strowman. He's no longer a little stronger. He's Jalen's from put the name on it because that kid is special, that kid is Suresh. Click on his name. It would probably going to have in this year next. Yeah, I don't think we're going to having three years because at the level he is progressing. We can get him. Or two more seasons. So enjoy a day and I think that room is down good. I think that one is no good. As long as we don't got to see 27 in the backend back there. I think we're gonna be fine.

1:13:22 You got steady Eddie People. You got playmaking strowman and you got two young. Good backups that rooms ready to go. All right, this is the tougher room to judge. It always is. And I know when we get into the tape, it's going to help us out. But tally, you were there in living / in Color for all y'all really young folks, Go YouTube In Living Color. Yeah. One of the best am Shannon. Fox show. Jamie Foxx carried away. His brothers Scott is such a good show, but In Living Color, you saw that game. How you feeling about the corners Four Corners? I'd probably say slightly better. And the reason I say that is because I was Dorian strong as always been a I think Dorian stronger than a solid player. I think he's been a solid player, but again, he was down last year with an injury, he could easily sit out this game. He could have easily not played this spring game because I mean, what does he got to prove?

1:14:24 He's pretty, he's a senior, you know, but he went out there and he competed and again, he was the one who chopped chopped gal, that Gallo is a big, dude. If he has that you took for you to have to hit in in the flats and strong show, did he wasn't scared. And put his nose in there. Flip Flip Gala on his head, seeing him back in there and then canteen canteen looks like a ball of muscle man. He is he he looks the part he is all over the field as well and then, you know, I seen a couple of things from d'Alene, but again once I go back and watch, it went back and watched a little film. Yeah, he did get kind of twisted up a little bit but it wasn't so much of him.

1:15:10 Him not having leverage he just didn't break when he needed to break. You know he kept the play in front of him instead of using his instincts and doing what he's what we seen them do so I don't think it was a bad spot, I don't think it was anything. I didn't expect and again I'm feeling slightly better about that wrong. They go. I'm about the same for me. I thought this was going to be a pretty solid strength of the team and I feel pretty much like that again. I feel like seeing canteen in person, he's lived up to the hype that we've heard from Spring practice from all the coaches talking about him, all the guys that have watched those, those practices what they've said about it to this point, he lived up to that on Saturday you d'Alene is is Years. I mean, nobody's gonna go out there and put a perfect number up in the spring game, right?

1:16:05 You know, he had one or two where he probably like to have back. Didn't trust his trust his teaching kind of got a little bit made. Sure made sure. It wasn't going to be a big gain, instead of kind of trust him what he's been taught and kind of staying in that Hip Pocket. So that kind of you know, it'll come with time and and I think, you know, he's still a young buck out there so he's still learning still growing is but he but he didn't show me anything. That says, okay, Sophomore slump is coming. So right, looking at kind of further down though, you talked about strong strong, he looked like he was kind of back to where we thought he'd be at this point in his career. So I'm excited about him. I'm a little worried kind of Beyond those three. That's kind of what I've got.

1:16:52 Got it, stay in the same for me. Cam Johnson, didn't look great still, looks a little undersized, like he's getting pushed around a little bit out there. You know, you'd like to see him kind of take that next step. He's really good when he can match up one-on-one but anytime he's not playing that straight up man coverage. It looks a little lost sometimes then kind of get get turned around a little bit when he's playing More in space and then zone. So what up another? I want to cut you off, but another reason When I said, I feel a little bit better. Again, these guys are freshman when you talk about the lane and Jonathan Johnson didn't look good coming off that injury, but we have some fret.

1:17:40 We have a lot of freshmen coming in, that's not there yet. That I feel like if they could make this make the if they can make the steps that the Freshman made last year, I think we'll be in a good spot. Yeah. When you talk about convent, You talk about Johnson and you talk about cam Fleming got love those. Other guys that are coming in, I think that we brought, we bringing a lot of cornerback seeing that can play in a lot of different positions. You know what I'm saying? Yes, I'm on. Can do boundaries, summer, someone can move safety. Like I feel good about what the future goes to. You know, again, hey, look too far ahead, because we're just talking spring game and we're talking about getting ready for the this season, but I think it's going to be Then it's summer.

1:18:27 I do I think it's gonna be interesting. Yeah, I'm like somewhere between the same and slightly better. I don't feel like good enough to say slightly better. What did say? Is everything changed, Cantina all checks the boxes. Tell you said it the other week and y'all said it is a corner. You're going to get beat sometimes just on why? Cuz the other guy knows exactly where he's going, what he's doing and you don't, and sometimes you lose technique, you lose your fundamentals and you just get beat. That is what it Is it's going to be interesting because some of those young guys are going to have to, kind of take the step, you know, like, when they get here or Cottman over the summer, or Cam Johnson, gained a little weight, getting a little bit better, you know, over the summer. But on the other hand, it's one of those things too. Is because somebody like a Jalen strobing go down and play a nickel Corner when you need to.

1:19:26 He probably could. And again, I always like you, that's things. We can't factor into the room, right? Right. Because we didn't think last year about tomorrow, I guess, last week, so, it's more reasonably free safety this year. Dr. Martin went down played nickel Corner sometimes and it made the defense better. So if you're telling me somebody like strowman occasional is gonna go play nickel corner, Okay, I feel comfortable about most Phillips. Being the safety in that situation and they're trying to give somebody a blow but I still want to see one guy. At least one. I love to see to. I want to see at least one guy become that number for to really solidify the road. All right, let's go here to the linebacker room, linebacker room, interesting. Split we have McDonald and Tisdale on the white team. We had Keller and Lawson on the maroon team. Keller was given the most improved player. Tally, will you feeling about this room? After the spring, I'm feeling about the same. Killer is a big individual.

1:20:27 Keller looks good, he can move good Tinsdale. He's been there a long time. We kind of know what we have in him. Don't be excited for him to at least have a whole season. You know, bar known injuries or anything like that but what no suspensions for gambling on the finals or whatever? They said he did last year. I feeling about the same. Nothing good. Nothing bad. I'm still I still got my own the McDonald twins. You know. I keep hearing a lot of a lot of chatter about them and they look the part they look good, but I want to see. I want to see some. I want to see something, especially out of the the linebacker McDonald brother.

1:21:11 I want to see something that just like, okay, he's got it. So I didn't see that yet but you know I'm still I'm still looking and still optimistic so you go yeah I'm kind of with Tally on that one for real Jason Keller look really good. Really liked what he brought to the table. He's got a good mix of athleticism and kind of run stopping ability that. I feel like we haven't really had a bit. You don't you don't feel like he's a guy that's going to get lost in coverage a whole lot. Nobody Really run away from him unless it's a superior athlete and, you know, but he's still a guy that can impact the run run game as well. So I'm thinking he's kind of the, the lead dog in terms of winning that Mike spot.

1:21:59 Looking at the at McDonald good and bad. You know, when I when I looked at it he had some plays where he looked. All right, look, kind of look the part a little bit and he had some plays where he wasn't in the right Gap, got pushed around. A little bit. So so that's a little Troublesome but I mean he's undersized. He's a guy that came in as a cornerback moved to safety moved to linebacker. You know he's still kind of building a body of a mic you know he played mostly in that that will spot last year. Some it's am last year. So he's definitely still undersized for Mike and right now if I had to pick one it would be Keller or you know, depending on how we met. Been there, whether Tisdale can hold that spot down or not but but Keller's by vote Kelly Lawson as advertised had a good game.

1:22:55 Look look like the type of player that can is going to take that next step this year and your Tisdale was the Tisdale that we saw it parts of the the back half of the season last year which was much improved relative to most of his career with genja tech. So I feel like we got three solid guys there. Our kind of mixing in between those will and Mike spots. The question is, do we have one or two more? That can kind of take another step, because I didn't quite feel comfortable beyond that. So I'm going to get I'm going with the same on my party because I felt pretty good about the room going in. Yeah I'm afraid I don't miss I feel the same about that room because I felt good about the room going in, Tisdale played solid. That's what I expect from him.

1:23:38 Keller in Lawson, show their athletic symptom and they're you know, they're Dynamic their dynamic. You saw all awesome come one time. It was like I don't know if this was like called Blitz. He came straight off the edge and just was right at drones sat I know that doesn't happen in a normal game, but to say he took that it was like four steps and he was there. But I feel the same about that room because I feel good about that room, I feel good about everybody in there you missing ju make McDonald made some errors here and there, but McDonald is going to be the fourth guy in that room, right? Right. He's not. He's not the second or the third. He's the fourth guy, and it's okay.

1:24:18 If the fourth guy makes mistakes, because that's his job is to learn and to get up to be the third of the second Jenkins out on the outside. Steady is always like I said that that first play where he held he got leverage. He turned to write into. Where he was supposed to turn, missed tackle but he knew anything wrong. So I'm still feeling, you know, the same about that room, but the same was it was up here already. It will make the corners of the see. I'm interested to see how Stone comes in as well. It's true. Yeah, I'm interested to see what he brings to that room because he's going to have some experience. He's been in school for a while. And coming from somewhere. What is via my right come from you and, you know, I'm sure he's Going to have a lot of structure. He was All-American there.

1:25:06 I'm interested to see what he brings to that room. So I think I think it runs on be nice. Very nice. All right. Well, one room we obviously all had questions about coming into Saturday was the defensive line we LED that last week and we discussing it tally. Would you see man I don't even know really how to judge it because you had so many people pieced together and not piece together. You know you had pollen and food go on one team and then you had see James Crais and Lawson on. Like it was just a lot going on.

1:25:48 So terrific for me to really feel good about that. That room I would need to see our starting for together then so I can say, so that's where you go when Curtis is talking about that best on best, I would have loved to see who they thought the best for was there. You're down lineman in the Then you know, I could give you a better assessment. So again I would probably say Saying, you know, cuz it's not like it's not like, I see nothing so bad. You know, I know we had some young guys in there but those young guys are huge. You know, you can't teach sighs.

1:26:34 I feel like food was going to be better than he was last year. Kendrick and pilot we kind of know what to expect side. Ya know what to expect out of those guys and then when you talk about the defensive defensive end, which is where I question mark is, you know, I really like CJ McRae. I don't know what it is just about how he moves or its body size Nelson. I'm not as high on, but I don't I'm not low on them either. You know, I just I'm higher own, CJ, McRae and I'm Nelson. But I would like to see all of those guys together. So I could have a better assessment of what we have in that room because it is the question mark for me. Yeah, I'm right there with you.

1:27:16 I feel about the same. I didn't feel great about it going in. I didn't really see anything that changes my mind. Lat CJ McRae looks explosive off the edge, probably still a little undersized I mean I'd help you as much in the Run game. Kind of inverse for cold Nelson. He's a he's a solid Edge presence in the Run game. Didn't show me a whole lot in terms of getting after the pastor. I feel like he does have a motor but he doesn't have the skill set to get around the tackles the way he needs to. So if somebody else gets some pressure, he's going to be there to clean it up because he does have that motor, but I don't think He's got the skill set right now to be able to blow guys off the ball or give a good bull rush or or some sort of rip inside to get to the quarterback consistently one person I can say that. I was, I don't want to use the word impressed with, but I can see constant Improvement.

1:28:13 Is pranay. I think he keeps getting better and better, you know. Not not saying he's exceptional, but For what I expected him to be every time I see him. It looks like he's doing a little bit more and a little bit more. He's adding some stuff to his to his Arsenal. So he I seen him. I seen him moving pretty good in the spring game to him. Yeah I'm with y'all looked improved and we log out Malik I meant to say Malik I'm good. He looked the best in terms of a guy that looks the part that showed up to, right? So that That's kind of the big thing for me, going further down the D and I thought Burgos flashed here and there, I don't think he's ready to be a consistent presence but I think he's somebody that can give us something this phone.

1:29:05 So that's kind of what I'm waiting to see. I'm kind of waiting to see if any of these other guys. Take take another step between now and the Fall To Be A Difference Maker because I don't feel like we necessarily found out anything new from what we saw on Saturday. Yeah, I'm with y'all on this. It's the same, it's the same. I mean, we saw some good things from the interior, obviously, we're expecting to see some good things from the interior. We were expecting to see McCrae be good. I mean I was kind of slightly impressed with Cole Nelson because there were a couple times he got Parker. Yeah, he got. Why he got up into Parker, you got underneath, you saw him drive at arm and obviously, now the play was made by the quarterback but I see that it's like, okay? And then you saw y'all.

1:29:50 You mentioned burgers. He saw moisten. Not spectacular. Not oh my God, that guy's playing defensive end but if you say, hey, we need one series to give coal and CJ a breather a couple times, you call them set aside Edge. Couple times, you saw them press the pinch a little bit and that's okay. The biggest one from the line was Malachi though. St. Malachi, forcing some pressure. He's a big body. I think, Malachi's 2D and I know you talked about Pinay But I think Malachi is 2D. By the time we get to fall. He's already got the body man. He's got, he's got some speed to him to be that big to like some quickness. I say, but yeah, he's definitely got the body for it. I think I don't you play with your matchups a little bit better because he's more suited to kind of be in that one, too. I that, I think pinet is same with. Obviously, fuga, is kind of kind of living that life as well. So if we can get those two, Two big guys kind of in the middle clogging.

1:30:53 Up the center guard area a little bit more. You know open a can kind of be that fifth guy that kind of works in here and there whether whether we need somebody in the in the to I for a little bit but he can also work the three because I feel like he's more of a tweener between those d-tackle positions 100%. All right, I mean y'all were there y'all saw it who stood out run? Standing on the line. No, no defenses. Whole defense is a whole Stroman, 100%. Not even close. He went first, I was going to say strowman but if I gotta pick somebody else different, I'm gonna say Lawson but ain't you got struck trollman is shrub.

1:31:37 In is the is the defensive MVP and it's definitely struggling. I mean he's everywhere. You know, when we look at the tape next week and show y'all a couple weeks ago, some plays you don't even see it even more. I mean, it's expected and took a step because he's definitely It was was all over the place a lot more than he showed last year. Well, honorable mention definitely Lawson on that when we look at that play and people see how much ground he covered to get there. He was, he was trying to say was beat, you know. I don't know. I haven't looked at it.

1:32:18 Enough to know whose man that was whom an Jennings was but Stroman, covered a lot of ground to get to that ball. Doesn't respect on that man named. No more baby stroke. No more, baby stroller. Immortal stroke, he's big strong now. All right, y'all, we didn't set here for 90 minutes, anything broken out there in the last 90 I mentioned in basketball. Tonight, we gonna go past that one thing, I guess, I will say somebody mentioned it earlier in the chat. Talking about Caleb Smith retiring up there at Notre Dame. So just want to give a shout-out to Caleb Smith man. Once I hope You always a hokie, he definitely appreciate what Caleb Smith brought to us last year because we didn't have him in that in that wide receiver group.

1:33:06 We may we may not have had any, any highlights. So Kayla Smith man, shout out to him. Hope everything's going. Good for you. Hope the next Endeavor in your life is as successful as you as a football was. Absolutely not very well. Spoken Talia. I think I'm gonna definitely close it out on this episode of The Boundary Corner podcast, but tattle-tale Robin. He got it at Walmart in Bristol. Walmart in Bristol Robbie you got to go down to Walmart in Bristol, man. They got him down after about 12 bucks, ain't parking lot from him.

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