HIST 402: Defensive Greats Carved In Hokie Stone

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Welcome back to the boundary
Corner podcast.

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I'm Curtis Wilson on this side
of the RV.

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A on the west side, on the east
side.

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I've got Ryan Siegel.
How's it going, buddy?

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Hey buddy, he's be a saying.
We used to work together in

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corporate when technology works.
It is wonderful.

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Yeah, I mean wonderful.
But when that should messes up,

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dude, it hamstrings you a little
bit.

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Just a little bit man.
We plan on starting this

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recording about what 35?
Ago, give or take 35 minutes ago

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but due to some technical
issues, half of my cocktails now

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gone around.
I was working diligently on this

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and trying to get things going.
I've only consumed about a

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quarter of mine.
The good news is I did grab a

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tallboy ham so I have a little
bit more than I'm used to back

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up is ready.
Backup is ready.

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Also well, guys, Texting and
having a lot of fun.

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Last few days.
You've been good.

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I'm good man.
We've been leaving throwing

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some.
Some names back and forth.

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I would say that that would be
the the polite way to put it.

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We've been throwing a lot of
names back and forth and some

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have a debate on a couple things
over here, man.

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Oh for sure in case y'all didn't
know it's a defense Mount

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Rushmore week so is welcome but
welcome.

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But before we get into that and
the stories of how this list was

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comprised, got a few things I
want to hit.

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People brought before I get into
the football stuff.

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Have you watched shits Creek?
I have not.

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It's on the list.
Everybody says it's Al area so

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I'm sure I'll get to it.
Holy God, hilarious me and the

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wife about 10 days ago, we were
kind of okay, what can we find

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you?
We've been watching some more

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dramatic dramatic stuff.
So like let's get away and in we

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both had heard of it.
Like let's do it.

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We're like in the season for
dude, hilarious show Eugene.

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Levi, Catherine, O'Hara.
I mean, just crack you up.

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Chris tell you, it's in it and
it is worth it.

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It's one of those things where
they have been several nights

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where it's like right at 10
which normal time we go to sleep

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and right you want to try and
get two more in for we go to

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bed.
Yeah let's go to also show check

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it out.
How much do it, man?

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We've been watching last night,
we call it like the first couple

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episodes of Waco and then a
couple episodes of Westworld

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We're playing catch-up on West
world.

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So you've always always been big
in the west-world.

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Something, when I cut the HBO, I
lost the access to so won't want

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long.
That's sad.

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It's be there right after Game
of Thrones, exactly.

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We have occasionally added it
back for a series or two, like

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for one month here and there.
So, yeah, but it is what it is.

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Sometimes you got to make budget
cuts for certain reasons.

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Remember true but you know who
is going to have some bigger

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budgets in the future?
Well man it looks like

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Collegiate athletes are going to
be able to take some money for

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sponsorships and autographs and
use of their likeness looks like

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the ncaa's moving forward.
That we you think, buddy?

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It's pretty wild man.
As I take a look at it and I

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started seeing like some of the
tweets that went out, you know,

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from my life, Michael Gray.
Jean Smith style Ackerman you

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know the big one was throughout
the efforts to enhance support

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for college athlete.
The NCAA has wrought upon

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considerable feedback from an
engagement of our members

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including student athletes from
all three divisions, allowing

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promotions and third-party
endorsements is Uncharted

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Territory.
But it seems like they want to

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modernize the game that giving
each division for January 2021

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to come up with their plans.
Something that you said would be

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the most beneficial in the East
is way to go.

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As far as paying the players you
have been on that boat.

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I feel like for the last 10
years, it's the path of least

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resistance because for the most
part, anybody that's not in a

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NCAA.
Sanctioned sport has been able

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to do this forever.
Whether it's running their own

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seminars or whatever.
As in their field camps, things

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like that.
But these athletes have not been

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able to use their abilities,
their status, whether it be

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because, of, because of
football, because of their

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talents and football or
basketball or whatever, maybe

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you're going to start, start
seeing them be able to profit

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off that, it looks like they're
not going to be able to use any

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sort of school related
paraphernalia when they are

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doing.
Of these adore endorsements or

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things like that.
So I think that's good because

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it takes The Branding of the
individual School away from them

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as being a platform.
So I think that's that part of

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it's good.
It's going to be interesting to

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see how it shakes out at the
conference level.

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Once they put their proposals
out there of how they're going

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to handle it, we've talked about
this before.

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Obviously, oversight is going to
be a big part here because the

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players seemed are going to have
to disclose Endorsements that

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they have to the NCAA and any
money taken, hundreds of table

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can can result in fines
suspensions Etc by by the NCAA.

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Yeah, whether it's, you know,
finds towards the school because

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it was a directly booster
related and then obviously the

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student athlete would probably
be hit at least with some sort

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of suspension as well.
Yeah, another big piece about

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this and it and you talk about.
How's it going to look under the

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table?
Taxes.

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If you're doing this and you're
selling your image in your

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likeness, you're now going to
get taxed.

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So somebody goes out there and,
you know, looking up here on the

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wall and I see a few, you know,
Trey Turner does it deal with

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tears you apartments in
Blacksburg to be their

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spokesman, they pay him three
thousand dollars.

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Awesome.
Hey Trent.

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Hey guys, the governor wants
their money and if you don't,

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hey, could we potentially?
See, and I laugh at this and

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this is a complete joke, but
it's still funny.

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Could we potentially see in an
athlete in their junior season

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who hasn't paid taxes for two
years.

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He's going to be in jail during
the season.

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Why tax evasion?
Oh wow.

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So hopefully with this, there be
some more folks hired on staff

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to help these guys.
Figure that out.

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But let me ask you this front
just for the Hokies perspective.

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I've got five names listed here.
Who do you feel like of the Five

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Guys, that could definitely reap
the benefits of this door course

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of this next year with
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So right out the gate, I mean
just in terms of the their

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Persona and things like that.
I think you've got to say Trey

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got to say Dak.
You gotta say probably heading

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hooker just for because of the
status as a quarterback and big

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play ability.
I'd probably Out James Mitchell

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and Kayla Farley I aimed right
out the gate.

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Do you got?
I'm three or five on that.

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I'm trying back some Hendon but
I think Brock yeah brother's

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body breaks things.
So yeah, but the other guy would

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be Devon Hunter because of the
prized recruit if he comes out

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this year and he balls five
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Now he's killing it at Rover,
he's going to get so much.

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So so all the pokefans listen in
the 757 that have some extra,

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you know, small businesses, hey,
calm down, get him some money.

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But yeah but I think it's a good
thing.

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So you know and you know what?
It's also part of my

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long-standing plan.
If they start getting paid

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eventually, we're going to draft
players.

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You want to draft Curtis once
the NCA a-- draft, hey, we're

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going to do it the soda.
That is some point in time we're

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going to you're going to find
all those text messages over the

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last like four years of my grand
scheme, which you have agreed

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could potentially work.
I mean, guys, it's going to be

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probably the longest episode
we've ever recorded if we ever

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get into it.
Just because I can't, I can't

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count the number of texts I've
got on this, but he does

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actually have a plan that's
thorough enough that, it's just

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convoluted enough that the NCAA
would say, say hey, That's good

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because you know, the NCAA
doesn't always make the best

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choices.
Hey, hey, hey well, speaking of

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draftsmen certain guy from the
Hokies got drafted last weekend.

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Last round pick 10 12.
The New England Patriots.

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Ouch.
Yes.

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Oh that's stinging me a little
bit.

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I mean it's going to be I'm
going to have to probably back

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off a little bit of My the Colts
in anyone, the Patriots are

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playing philosophy going
forward, just because of Cain,

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but I do want to Pat myself on
the back a little bit on this.

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You called it a few, a few
episodes back.

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Somebody said that, you know,
based on the combine and based

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on this players, versatility,
Dalton Keen was a late day to

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possibility.
And yeah, late day to right on

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the money.
You did nail it, man.

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And now Dalton's gonna have
himself some money.

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I seriously I'm not joking about
this him going to the Patriots,

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his athletic ability how he
blocked, how he catches, how he

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does so many things so, well, I
mean, I think, within a few

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years he could be potentially
one of the best titles as bleep.

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He's got the potential like I
said he catches everything in

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his area.
He's great after the catch and

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he's great at blocking in space
and he's good enough and

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blocking in line for my tiny
perspective as well.

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So I mean there's nothing that
he does bad, there's not a part

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of his game.
That's a weakness and he's got a

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few of those that are really
good strengths like I said with

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catching and the run after the
catch walking in Space.

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So I think he's really going to
ascend if especially knowing the

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Patriots and how they get.
The most out of the players that

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are smart enough and capable
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that.
So absolutely shall see.

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Ya one other hokey pretty quick
got undrafted Reggie Floyd

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heading to the cards.
What is it about in scos teams?

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Taking Virginia Tech safeties
that aren't 49ers even though we

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have x a few years so you know
it?

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Yeah.
I mean, they do, they do Really.

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Yeah.
The they loved Virginia Tech

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players and generally they
drafted tap yeah.

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We draft a cam.
I mean yeah.

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It's the NFC West really.
You see them have Hokies in

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there a lot.
I mean exim got brought in as a

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free agent with the Niners and
he stuck three years, he started

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some games last year, he was
getting cut back and forth on

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and off but I mean I mean
Excellence been a leak six years

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so good for good for him, good
for Reggie getting signed Brian

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how you feel about the Colts
draft personal here?

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Yeah, I feel really good.
I feel really good.

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I thought the taking Taylor in
the second with that second pick

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in the second round was a
little.

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I didn't see it coming but I
like it the more I look at it

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because I think we're in a
situation now where we're not

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going to re-sign any sort of
running back of this point.

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We're going to draft, a guy in
the first three or four rounds,

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every three or four years and
then I came up with no veteran

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cast offs, that are still got
something left in the tank, I

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don't think we're going to be
re-signing running back to any

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sort of lucrative deal at this
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So I thought that was good.
You know, we get to meet

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positions.
We didn't probably get as much

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of a pass rush that I would like
to see in, but other than that,

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I think we filled all are all of
our all our boxes there.

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So, what about you, buddy?
I'm going to give my niners, a

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B+ that could be an a -.
And I'm going to get into that

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in just a second.
But we got Javon kinlaw second,

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rated defensive tackle out of
South Carolina, it immediately

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slips into Buckner's place where
he gave to y'all for 18 million

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dollars, less than excited about
that.

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We have kept room.
So I'm cool with and we wanted

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to address on a couple of those
websites and a lot of fun and he

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had always fell out right
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The second round right outside
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Early second.
And when they got him as a

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person was, like, kind of stinks
we missed on CD, we didn't get

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Jerry.
We took in law, which makes me

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think Ken law was so high on the
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You can't turn that down, but
then I started watching this

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tape and some highlights.
And it's like, oh, I see while

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Kyle Shanahan wants him.
This is scary for the NFC West.

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The other three guys and I'll
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Colt mckevitt out of West,
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But I think I see their scheme
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mid-level offensive zone,
tackles and college, and try to

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slip them inside.
As long as they've got a nasty

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streak, Charlie want a big block
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I would Georgia and big receiver
Juwan Jennings, how to

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Tennessee.
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after until they found out,
probably a couple days before

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Joe Staley retired makes me sad.
They go out and get the best

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offensive tackle in his own
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and Trent will.
Williams and he's got something

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to prove.
If we get him extended, this

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trap is an A minus because we
immediately feel to needs or

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actually immediately feel three
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So I feel great about it, man.
Good for you buddy.

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Good for y'all.
Yeah, I feel really good about

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what we did.
Like I said, we filled in some

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holes.
I think we're gonna, you know, I

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think we got a good good value
for Eason where we took him, if

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he ends up playing behind Philip
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be the next guy up.
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If not, we didn't waste anything
with a fourth-round pick so I

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could get all broken up about
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So I think we're good to go.
Awesome.

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Did you see see you a DJ hah?
RVs top five came out a few days

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back.
I did big guy along with some

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heavy weights in, Texas and USC
and another in-state guy for

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him.
Another West Coast with Kalyn

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organ, I'm going to mention a
couple things because I don't

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know if you got to read the 24/7
article where he went through

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each of the each of the
school's, kind of what he likes

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a lot about coaches, but there
was one thing that he mentioned

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about Virginia Tech, he did not
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places, and we see his His dad
seems to really care about his

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son, but he's not boast
terrorists.

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He a lot of encouraging tweets
for not only his son, but the

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entire 2021 class.
But the three things first of

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all, he says BTS family
atmosphere, he did not mention

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family atmosphere in any of the
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He did not, he did not huge.
And when you hear about it, talk

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to in that way, that says
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Also, we're showing the
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I'm the zoom call.
Yeah what was it?

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Justin Fuente.
Ron Smith and Justin Hamilton I

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believe so no dude it was
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Oh the entire staff was there
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Wow and then he talked about
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are with them.
They potentially like him doing

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things on both sides of the ball
and he says that Honesty up

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front, you know they talked to
him for comparing them like what

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a Dory Jackson did so That makes
me those three comments and, you

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know, he'd like the other
schools talked about the

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coaches, but those three things
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Yeah, that's big.
And like you said, I mean, his

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dad has been, he's on Twitter a
lot but he's like, you said,

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very positive and I don't see a
whole lot of other heavily.

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Complimentary things said about
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I see him talking about Virginia
Tech and so that's got a that's

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got to make us feel feel pretty
good, even if Obviously it's

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going to be ultimately DJ's
decision as to where he goes,

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but I feel like we've got a,
we've definitely made our

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impression on the dad.
I think that's really going to

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go.
Go far for us, hopefully.

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Yes, sir.
I brought on, let's get to it,

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man.
The Hokey Mount Rushmore their

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defense for deals.
This this was let's set the

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stage man.
Gonna set the stage for us.

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Well, first of all, before we
started Fussing.

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This is an episode with offense
and defense, we said let's do

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offense first, that won't be as
tough defense is going to be

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insane.
It's gonna be a nightmare

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because you got everybody's got
their favorites but also just

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the sheer number of talented
guys that we've had and way.

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Yeah, every time you listen to
name your like damn, I got to

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move somebody down to move
somebody up and it just got off

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and going, man.
So brutal.

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Well, we kind of started talking
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Last Wednesday after the episode
dropped 20 texting and then on

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draft night you know me and
Brian facetimed, your wife

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called us FaceTiming, my wife
laughed at it on Facebook it was

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pretty funny.
Yeah, that's what about now we

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were both drinking beer watching
the draft and debating who was

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going to be on the Rock, who is
going to be honorable mention

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and who we were.
Just going to talk about for a

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little bit.
Yeah but here's the thing that

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night so we're FaceTime were
chatting and being Brian, both

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had list.
And we just start reading.

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And we kept reading and we kept
talking and we kept going while

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watching the draft kind of
laughing at a couple pics.

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Like why did they do that thing?
Okay.

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Okay, move on.
In the end, it was proud.

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We were what we were borderline,
25 players and we're going to go

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through these guys in a few
minutes here and then over the

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course of the next Friday
Saturday Sunday and Monday.

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We finally kind of came down to
it, we were texting back names

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and some stats and hear some
good articles and read on this,

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read on that.
And before we even get to the

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honorable mentions, we're just
going to go through the list.

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And it shows it really shows how
in the history of this school,

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how great the damn defense has
been.

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And Brian, I'm going to give you
the honor this week.

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Exercise.
I'll let you start with just the

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guys on the outside.
These are just the guys on the

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outside of the honorable mention
and Hokies and Mount Rushmore ho

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Keystone looking in before he
starts man's.

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Don't hate us for anything.
We're doing today.

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This was difficult.
We dare you just ride.

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We're going to probably ask you
to try but let's let's start off

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this mask for out the gate, any
RV, a guy's gonna probably be

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like, what the hell are you
doing?

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But outside of our honorable
mentions, we got Macho Harris.

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Holland Springs, High School in
the RV, a two-time first-team,

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all-acc ended up with a fifth
round.

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Draft pick to the Eagles.
Unfortunately didn't didn't work

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out for him there, but mean, one
of the great all-time Hokies

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that we're talking about here,
you know, also on that list we

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had Brandon Flowers out of the
Delray Beach pipeline.

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That Virginia Tech is
established two-time

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All-American, second-round pick
earned a Pro Bowl in 2013.

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Next up in, this is going to
sting a little bit for our

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Southside Virginia listeners,
but Tremaine admins.

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First-team all-acc first round
draft.

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Pick to the Buffalo Bills and
the earned a Pro Bowl in 2019.

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Only a second here.
He wasn't even 21 right?

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Yeah.
This turn 21 when he crazy when

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he got the Pro Bowl.
It's crazy to think about man.

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Next up, Kyle, Fuller and
there's going to be A trend here

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for the, the folder name.
I'm going to run three off here

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pretty quick, obviously,
Maryland, native.

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He went to Mount Saint Joe's.
High school was a two-time.

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All ACC was a one-time second
team, All-American.

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First round, draft pick to the
Bears two-time pro bowler, and

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he got his first first-team
All-Pro in 2018.

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Next up, Kendall.
Maryland native obviously cancel

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High School two-time, all ACC
one-time, second-team

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All-American.
Third round draft pick Super

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Bowl, 50 for Champion that was
sealed with his interception.

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Sorry, Curtis that one.
It's all good, though.

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It is.
Next up, we got the the last

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Fuller.
Pensive, brother, Vincent,

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Fuller, Woodlawn.
High School played a key role in

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that 04 ACC Championship team
that we're all really fond of

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here.
Versatile player, quarterbacking

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also played in free.
Safety was a fourth-round pick.

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Spent seven years in the NFL.
Good all-around player, you

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know, mostly a role player in
the NFL, but you did his job for

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seven years there.
Next up, Willie pile, Northern

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Virginia, West Potomac, High
School, standout player owns

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defense from 2000 to 2002.
Second team, all-big East, 2002

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seventh-round draft.
Pick to the Chiefs Next up,

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Tyrone Drake for South Carolina,
native out of North Central was

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a key.
Secondary key member of the

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secondary.
In those early good, Frank

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squads career leader in
interceptions at Virginia Tech

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second round draft pick and one
Super Bowl 29 with the 49ers.

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Yes sir.
Next the last year we got Chris

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Ellis Bethel.
High School product.

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So we got A 757 representative
here.

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He was key part about the of
those defenses in the, the

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mid-2000s that were just so
good.

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First team, all-acc in 2008 and
drafted by the pills and the

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third round.
And last on my, my list here is

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going to be frank Lauria the 0 g
of D.

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Bu Played in the secondary.
Returned punts played beside a

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famous other Frank that we all
know and love, I don't know if

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you're aware of whom I'm talking
about.

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Yes sir.
But this Frank was a two-time

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All-American and tragically.
Unfortunately, I don't and I

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know both of you guys know the
story here, but he was on the

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plane and 1970 that was carrying
the the Marshal football team

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when that plane crashed.
So, unfortunately, we didn't get

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to see what type of Coach he was
going to become but definitely

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one of the all-time.
Great hope he's.

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Alright, so I'm going to finish
off the list guys because we're

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still not done with guys just on
the the outside that we talked

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about so much for the last few
days I'm going to start with Ike

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Charlton.
Orlando's the Florida V T

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connection.
That started way back.

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When part of the 99 team, he was
a first-team All-American.

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Second-round draft, pick played
in the league for six years.

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Vince Hall, Western Branch out
of 757 first-team all-acc in 06

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one of the big leaders of one of
the greatest defensive all time.

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We ever saw in school history
one The Dudley in 2006 John

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engelberger not who he seems a
pit balls Springfield.

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High School in Springfield
Virginia.

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Lee High School three-time, all
Big East first team, s times s

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All-American second-round pick
of the 49ers had an eight-year

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career.
Cody, Grimm Oakton High School

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up in Northern Virginia, the
Grim Reaper to gravity.

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Yes, sir, 2009 all.
First teen ACC all 13,

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All-American Dudley winter guy.
We overlooked a lot of times.

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Also whip Deep Creek, James
Anderson out of Chesapeake.

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Definitely.
You can say, in, in, when he was

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in school, probably overshadowed
by Vincent and Xavier by was

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running mates, but great.
Well, third-round pick change

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play The League nine years.
He just retired a couple years

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ago.
Yeah, it's crazy.

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Dorian Gray, Lakeland, Florida
three-time all Big East free.

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Safety second round.
Pick that guy retired way too

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early his knee messing up in the
early part of the 2000s.

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Then obviously coaching dbe's
from 06 to 15 here.

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Another name man, Anthony
midget.

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Clearly Florida 13, All-American
first team.

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Biggie, secondary coach, he's
doing secondary coach in the NFL

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for six years, man.
Says a lot about type of player.

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He is Jason World Cartier.
New Jersey second-team all-acc,

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08 and 09 a second round.
Pick to the Steelers for years.

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He played then he retired
abruptly and my cousin's a huge

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Steelers fan.
I can remember you tired and he

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said, dude, he was ready to take
over at the end spot but Jason,

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I can remember what had happened
mean, you kind of talking about

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it, he sort of he got his money
and he was just like, I'm ready

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to stop and So yeah, a couple
more guys here Jr.

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On host Lee pointin Beach,
Florida first-team all-acc, and

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2010's second-team All-American.
And in in 2011 for the ACC

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first-team All-American in 2010
that Year, I hope you record

446
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nine picks in one season.
Third round draft pick of the

447
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,200
Giants and this is kind of the
guy.

448
00:28:47,100 --> 00:28:49,500
Crying.
I know I've tried we couldn't

449
00:28:49,500 --> 00:28:53,200
get in there maybe over the next
few years.

450
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,400
When we do this again, he'll
wind up, Kam Chancellor, Bam,

451
00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:01,200
Bam, Maury High School, Norfolk,
Virginia to Star Quarterback

452
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:06,800
recruit coming out with just two
offers, he played every

453
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,500
secondary position at Virginia
Tech.

454
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,900
Dorian Gray said, he could be
the greatest safety in this

455
00:29:12,900 --> 00:29:16,800
program's history in 2009.
Second team.

456
00:29:16,900 --> 00:29:21,700
Amal ACC him fifth round draft
pick of the Seattle Seahawks

457
00:29:22,500 --> 00:29:27,800
four-time pro bowler, Super Bowl
champ and a physical freak, A

458
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,500
guy who could hit you like a
linebacker but still cover you.

459
00:29:31,900 --> 00:29:34,800
And folks, if you really can
remember, he laid some hits in

460
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,100
college.
But I'm going to take one to the

461
00:29:36,100 --> 00:29:41,500
program as a Niners fan Vernon,
Davis going up the sidelines and

462
00:29:41,500 --> 00:29:46,300
it was a good pass and clam
knocked the shit out of him.

463
00:29:47,500 --> 00:29:49,000
Sorry.
I don't think you know how we

464
00:29:49,300 --> 00:29:52,100
always think about that one man,
because they show that one all

465
00:29:52,100 --> 00:29:55,600
the time they do it when you.
And I remember is a Niners fan

466
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:59,400
watching that it was a Monday
night like I was illegal, Darcy

467
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:06,300
dirty play crushes people with
his shoulders so these are the

468
00:30:06,300 --> 00:30:11,100
guys just on the outside and
these are great players me and

469
00:30:11,100 --> 00:30:15,700
Brian clearly got to see some of
these guys play and it was tough

470
00:30:16,100 --> 00:30:17,800
but Brian.
We're going to move on.

471
00:30:18,700 --> 00:30:21,100
All right, so so I'm going to
mention.

472
00:30:21,100 --> 00:30:23,900
So I know with the offense
episode, we gave you all to

473
00:30:23,900 --> 00:30:26,100
honorable mentions, but we felt
the defense.

474
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,400
We need it.
For our honorable mentions.

475
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,900
We needed for guys that we were
going to dive a little bit

476
00:30:30,900 --> 00:30:34,900
deeper on that.
We're going to be off of the

477
00:30:34,900 --> 00:30:38,700
rush for for defense here.
So I'm going to start off here

478
00:30:38,700 --> 00:30:44,000
with one of my favorites.
Xavier adibi, the Phoebus High

479
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:49,800
School 757, LED them to their
first state championship, his

480
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,800
junior year and Senior year,
they're LED them to their first

481
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,900
undefeated season.
So they were back-to-back state,

482
00:30:55,900 --> 00:31:00,800
champions played both ways, he
was a fullback and a linebacker.

483
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,900
One of those fullbacks that
frequently could go over 100

484
00:31:04,900 --> 00:31:08,500
yards and that's not even their
primary running back.

485
00:31:08,500 --> 00:31:10,900
So, that's that's an impressive
stat right there.

486
00:31:11,700 --> 00:31:13,200
Obviously, went to Virginia
Tech.

487
00:31:13,300 --> 00:31:16,700
He was the primary backup at
backer, his redshirt freshman.

488
00:31:16,900 --> 00:31:21,200
Year took the starting role at
backer is a sophomore in 2005

489
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:25,300
and held that role. 2007, some
of the best defenses.

490
00:31:25,300 --> 00:31:29,800
The Hokies have ever had had
Xavier DB at Guam backer, backer

491
00:31:30,500 --> 00:31:36,000
266 combined tackles nine sacks
in this career Regent collegiate

492
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,700
career.
He had eight career

493
00:31:38,700 --> 00:31:42,300
interceptions and to pick sixes
along with one.

494
00:31:42,500 --> 00:31:45,900
Fumble recovery for a touchdown.
Now if you remember anything

495
00:31:45,900 --> 00:31:51,000
about a Be a DVD was one of
those backers that, or than I

496
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,600
can remember.
He was getting pics.

497
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,900
You don't, you don't see those
backers, getting a ton of pace,

498
00:31:55,900 --> 00:31:58,600
but a DB just always had a nose
for the ball.

499
00:31:59,300 --> 00:32:02,400
Always seem to find it, and
that's what I loved about him,

500
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,600
loving watching them play
because he could, he get out

501
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,000
there and cover.
Absolutely good at dating, the

502
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,900
quarterback in the throwing his
Direction.

503
00:32:09,900 --> 00:32:15,300
And I love that in his career,
he was a second-team all-acc in

504
00:32:15,300 --> 00:32:21,400
2006.
First team, all-acc in 2007, AFC

505
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:27,600
a All-American in 2007, and
instance, of the, the little

506
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,400
brother showing out more than
big brother Nathaniel here,

507
00:32:30,500 --> 00:32:34,300
because that's what the hell of
a player and defensive end for

508
00:32:34,300 --> 00:32:37,100
us.
He wasn't, it was savior came in

509
00:32:37,100 --> 00:32:40,600
there and definitely took that
one step further.

510
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:44,200
And as we know the Hokies like
to keep it in the family, so we

511
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,700
get, we got a lot of lot of
brothers here that are only

512
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,700
Odds.
So yeah, thanks for seeing

513
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,100
seeing another one.
Go out there and show out,

514
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:57,100
drafted to the Texans played
several seasons in the NFL and

515
00:32:57,108 --> 00:33:00,600
now he's coaching.
So that's our first one.

516
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,400
There is a savior DP.
Yeah, man.

517
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,000
He was just, we got to go to so
many of his games when we were

518
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,500
like in college, and he was such
a physical freak, and he talked

519
00:33:09,500 --> 00:33:12,100
about all the pigs he had.
And again, it's that set of

520
00:33:12,100 --> 00:33:15,900
brothers that keep playing at
Tech, man and know.

521
00:33:17,700 --> 00:33:20,900
I mean him and Hall just just
unbelievable combination there

522
00:33:20,900 --> 00:33:23,300
in the middle for those those
Seasons.

523
00:33:23,300 --> 00:33:26,800
But, uh, I got one for you from
that time frame, man.

524
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,900
All right, let's hear been Jimmy
Williams.

525
00:33:30,300 --> 00:33:36,200
Oh man.
Oh baby 63 210 pounds, defensive

526
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,400
back Hampton, Virginia out of
Bethel High School.

527
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:43,000
Start his career off as a free
safety backup, that Willie pile,

528
00:33:43,300 --> 00:33:45,800
we've already mentioned willy
willy had some hell of an Acca

529
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,300
Hayes.
He took over that position in

530
00:33:49,300 --> 00:33:54,400
2003 from Willie, so he was part
of that 2003 team and then in

531
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:59,500
2004 he was moved to corner and
Brian is me and you had this

532
00:33:59,500 --> 00:34:02,500
conversation.
He started excelling.

533
00:34:02,500 --> 00:34:06,400
And and and and this is one of
those things is put out there.

534
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,600
You mentioned it to me and we
were content.

535
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,800
I was just reading and doing
some research and watching some

536
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:17,500
tape, some people consider, and
if he's not dead, He is.

537
00:34:17,500 --> 00:34:20,100
He's right.
There is maybe the best cover

538
00:34:20,100 --> 00:34:22,600
corner to ever play this
position attack.

539
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:28,000
He started at safety.
So he would lay a lik when he

540
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,100
had to watch some of those old
films.

541
00:34:30,100 --> 00:34:33,500
He popped guys on the sidelines
man, but there's two.

542
00:34:33,900 --> 00:34:39,800
There's two plays that stick out
to me and luckily doing all this

543
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,600
reading old articles and these
were by think I've built Roth

544
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:48,400
brought these up.
Two plays you guys go back and

545
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:55,300
look at the 2004 year.
He walked down Albie Pearman for

546
00:34:55,300 --> 00:34:58,200
UVA.
He was on the opposite side

547
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,400
corner.
If he walked him down and save

548
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,900
it touchdown, you watch it and
you just see him he starts

549
00:35:03,900 --> 00:35:05,100
going.
Bye guys.

550
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:09,400
And it's like, oh my God, he's
going to catch any caught him,

551
00:35:09,700 --> 00:35:13,500
insanity and then in the Sugar
Bowl that same year against

552
00:35:13,500 --> 00:35:16,900
Auburn.
Just This beautiful just the

553
00:35:16,900 --> 00:35:21,400
beautiful coverage that hips
flowing back and then he just he

554
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,700
cut that little hook pattern
will come back pattern, and he

555
00:35:24,700 --> 00:35:27,300
just got right there laid out
and makes the catch.

556
00:35:28,500 --> 00:35:30,300
Although we didn't score on that
drive.

557
00:35:30,300 --> 00:35:32,800
It was a momentum, swing and
Driver down, 16.

558
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,200
Nothing Hokies 413 unanswered,
fall short.

559
00:35:36,700 --> 00:35:42,400
And if you go back and look at
the history books that play, got

560
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,300
it in field goal, range, and
Brandon Pace.

561
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,300
Mr. Short.
Evolved.

562
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:52,700
So what could have been?
You know, nine career

563
00:35:52,700 --> 00:35:57,900
interceptions in 2005 was the
year man, unanimous unanimous,

564
00:35:57,900 --> 00:36:01,600
first-team All-American, he was
a finalist, not only for the

565
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,000
fort.
He was also a finalist for the

566
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:09,000
Nagurski that year.
And then later in 2000 in the

567
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:13,900
draft in 2006, second-round,
pick of Atlanta so Jimmy

568
00:36:13,900 --> 00:36:17,500
Williams.
May, what more can you say about

569
00:36:17,500 --> 00:36:20,000
that?
I mean, I just remember watching

570
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,600
Jimmy.
I'm like when he moved to Corner

571
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,000
that was the move.
That really kind of, I think set

572
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:29,300
things off in terms of those
defenses that came in those mid

573
00:36:29,300 --> 00:36:35,200
2000s, man because it went from
like you just couldn't throw on

574
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,200
with, with Jimmy out there and
you had Macho coming in.

575
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,500
I mean, it was just crazy.
It was crazy, dude.

576
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,600
It was crazy.
And I just remember those

577
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,100
defense.
And so finally, man, I've got

578
00:36:46,100 --> 00:36:48,800
another one for you.
Yeah, this is up.

579
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:54,700
So obviously you all know that I
have a great affinity for mr.

580
00:36:54,700 --> 00:36:58,100
Darryl Tapp so that's parents
went on the list.

581
00:36:58,100 --> 00:37:02,500
Here is Darryl Tapp Deep Creek.
High School product, lettered in

582
00:37:02,500 --> 00:37:06,100
football, basketball and track.
You gotta love those.

583
00:37:06,100 --> 00:37:08,200
Multi-sport athletes, man.
Yes, sir.

584
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:13,500
For us, he played a special team
and Reserve role from 2002 to

585
00:37:13,500 --> 00:37:16,200
2003.
Memorably.

586
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,600
He had the fumble recovery for
the touchdown against UVA and

587
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:21,900
02.
Yes, sir.

588
00:37:21,900 --> 00:37:24,300
We promised called that a couple
episodes ago.

589
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:29,200
So, took over the starting role
in 2004 and that's, that's when

590
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:33,900
things started to happen because
Darryl Tapp, once he got in

591
00:37:33,900 --> 00:37:38,000
there, he out worksheet and he
punished you.

592
00:37:39,300 --> 00:37:44,000
And took his 2004 campaign and
took it even a step further in

593
00:37:44,008 --> 00:37:48,700
2005 where he had a career year.
But again the most important

594
00:37:48,700 --> 00:37:52,000
thing is that I look at Darryl
Tapp that's kind of like the

595
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,400
Jake Grove of the of the
defense.

596
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:59,200
He is the epitome of lunch pail
so much so that you got to keep

597
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:00,100
it.
He didn't let it go.

598
00:38:00,700 --> 00:38:02,500
No I didn't.
It wasn't giving it back.

599
00:38:02,700 --> 00:38:05,600
Never gave it back.
Nobody without work you and he

600
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:09,400
would out hustle you and he
would go in there and just Just,

601
00:38:09,700 --> 00:38:11,900
he wasn't giving up until he got
the job done.

602
00:38:12,700 --> 00:38:16,000
His work ethic ethic in Virginia
Tech just remains legendary.

603
00:38:17,100 --> 00:38:21,700
Its terms of numbers, he had
career stats 175, tackles

604
00:38:21,700 --> 00:38:27,900
combined combined, 23 and a half
tackles for loss 13, sex three

605
00:38:27,900 --> 00:38:31,600
forced fumbles, punt, blocked
punt, return for a touchdown.

606
00:38:33,500 --> 00:38:37,100
He was a two-time all-sec.
First team in 04 and 0.5.

607
00:38:37,900 --> 00:38:42,400
And as I've said, my personal
all-time favorite hokey taking

608
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:47,700
in the second round to the
Seattle Seahawks 11-year NFL

609
00:38:47,700 --> 00:38:50,200
career.
That is both the starter and a

610
00:38:50,207 --> 00:38:54,600
rotational player.
And obviously current member of

611
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:58,100
the Hokies coaching staff TNT.
Yes, he is man.

612
00:38:58,500 --> 00:39:01,500
So let me just again, my
all-time favorite, hope you play

613
00:39:01,500 --> 00:39:05,900
or in somebody that, yeah, every
time I see him, every time he

614
00:39:05,900 --> 00:39:09,600
even likes or Retweet.
So my stuff on Twitter I'm like

615
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,500
oh man that's the stuff right
there.

616
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,800
You're right man and down tap
was the heart and soul that

617
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:20,000
lunch pail defense in those
Glory years and it's awesome.

618
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,600
Having him back on staff.
And in dude, again, we've

619
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,300
mentioned this in episodes
before we got the opportunity to

620
00:39:26,300 --> 00:39:29,500
meet him and he talked us for 45
minutes with his kid hanging out

621
00:39:29,500 --> 00:39:32,600
back, and we joked about the
lunch pail.

622
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:37,500
He took he was so gracious to
taking the photos with us and

623
00:39:37,700 --> 00:39:41,300
It's all my Twitter timeline
somewhere and I'm so tempted to

624
00:39:41,300 --> 00:39:42,900
repost it all the time with
this.

625
00:39:42,900 --> 00:39:47,200
He's he is that guy and when
they had in the staff this year

626
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:52,100
you talked about if there's
anybody slacking in the oh yeah,

627
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,400
oh God.
All right man.

628
00:39:55,400 --> 00:40:00,600
So we got one more before we get
to the Mount Rushmore and y'all

629
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,700
just this is how damn good.
Again, we've been on defense.

630
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,600
So many great players difference
of programs.

631
00:40:08,500 --> 00:40:12,000
But it has to start somewhere
and that's Cornell Brown.

632
00:40:12,700 --> 00:40:16,900
He was one of the first big
Virginia recruits that chose the

633
00:40:16,900 --> 00:40:20,600
Hokies and Frank always said it
was the Turning of the tide in

634
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,900
the state of the recruiting six
years.

635
00:40:22,900 --> 00:40:27,600
And if Chen year six-foot
defensive end out of EC glass in

636
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:31,700
Lynchburg at the he was ranked
number two in the state.

637
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,200
When he committed, he was number
six in the Mid-Atlantic region,

638
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,100
you kind of do the math.
That basically, Made Cornell

639
00:40:39,100 --> 00:40:46,600
roughly a top 50 player at worst
as a freshman part of the 93

640
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:50,100
team that started the bowl
Street and probably one of the

641
00:40:50,100 --> 00:40:53,700
biggest leaders of the 95 Sugar
Bowl win, that really put this

642
00:40:53,700 --> 00:40:58,600
program International
prominence, 95 unanimous,

643
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:02,300
All-American 103.
Tackles that year 14 sacks, the

644
00:41:02,300 --> 00:41:08,600
Big East defensive player of the
year and then 96 Eric and again

645
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:14,800
even though he missed three
games 36 sacks in his career

646
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:19,600
Dudley Award winner.
Got drafted by the Ravens was on

647
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,800
their Super Bowl team as a key
Reserve special teams player

648
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:29,600
played seven total years in.
You know there's always a spot

649
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:38,300
that in 1993 with getting him
was that of Fortran protect And

650
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,900
the question is and I'll ask you
and just kind of put it out

651
00:41:41,900 --> 00:41:48,600
there for the Hokie fans. if we
land, Some of the guys who are

652
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:52,800
on the top and this year is that
sort of the brawl breakthrough

653
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,600
for Justin Fuente as Cornell was
for Frank.

654
00:41:56,900 --> 00:42:01,800
So you know I like to put those
correlations out there but but

655
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,900
Brian, what do you got on this
guy?

656
00:42:05,100 --> 00:42:08,700
Yeah I mean you said a lot about
Cornell and I think the biggest

657
00:42:08,700 --> 00:42:11,600
thing that we're talking about
here is that he was the one that

658
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:15,400
kind of brought the the tide in
for the Hokies in terms of

659
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,100
recruiting and in terms of
getting that That ball rolling,

660
00:42:18,100 --> 00:42:22,600
two things, the step from good
team too, we're going to compete

661
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:27,000
for Biggie's titles.
Every year we're going to punch

662
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,400
you in the mouth because that's
what we do on both sides of the

663
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:30,900
ball.
But particularly on defense.

664
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,700
He's the guy that kind of
started all that and I think

665
00:42:35,700 --> 00:42:37,500
that's that.
That's what you got to say about

666
00:42:37,500 --> 00:42:39,600
it.
In terms of just establishing

667
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:43,700
the tradition, establishing an
identity for that defense.

668
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,200
That's what Cornell will Brown
was all about.

669
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,700
So, That's the big thing that I
want to take away from that.

670
00:42:49,700 --> 00:42:53,300
Is that he was the guy that kind
of started the tradition that

671
00:42:53,300 --> 00:42:54,900
we're still celebrating right
now.

672
00:42:55,300 --> 00:43:00,000
And unfortunately, just outside
of the big four for us in terms

673
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,700
of our deliberations, which I
know is going to be probably a

674
00:43:03,700 --> 00:43:07,300
sore spot for some folks because
we've already had some folks,

675
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,400
some people over again on on
Twitter as far as what, where

676
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,400
they want to go.
And Cornell seems to be one of

677
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,000
the ones that's keeps popping
up.

678
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:19,200
Exactly.
And you know, and and then this

679
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:24,000
again, this was tough man.
But we're here we are at the

680
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,300
Rushmore.
We have went past.

681
00:43:25,300 --> 00:43:28,500
Wonderful memorials to get here.
Yep.

682
00:43:29,300 --> 00:43:32,500
But this should not should I
lead off here.

683
00:43:32,700 --> 00:43:34,900
Should I lead off you?
Let me leave with mr.

684
00:43:34,900 --> 00:43:37,400
Vic I shall let you leave sir.
Okay.

685
00:43:38,100 --> 00:43:41,200
Well my first one is the biggest
no-brainer in the history of

686
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:47,300
Virginia Tech Sports Bruce
Smith, this sack man.

687
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:54,100
Yes, sir Booker T Washington,
High School, Norfolk 757 didn't

688
00:43:54,100 --> 00:43:58,000
really focus much on football
till these later, part of high

689
00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:59,500
school.
But once he did that things

690
00:43:59,500 --> 00:44:02,700
really took off for him.
Woo.

691
00:44:02,700 --> 00:44:08,400
Yeah, he literally redefined the
position of defensive end when

692
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,400
he would go into Tech and
everything.

693
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:15,300
I mean before that there wasn't
guys that had linebacker speed

694
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:20,900
at the Russian position, and he
comes in 22 sacks in his junior

695
00:44:20,900 --> 00:44:25,300
year alone.
God first team, All-American

696
00:44:25,300 --> 00:44:30,700
selection that year somehow
senior year, he outdid that he

697
00:44:30,700 --> 00:44:34,400
was consensus, All-American
selection that year and Outland

698
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,800
Trophy winner.
That's a big one.

699
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:44,300
So draft an 85, you know, where
he went buddy, that would be you

700
00:44:44,300 --> 00:44:46,800
know, Uno.
Yes, sir 11.

701
00:44:47,700 --> 00:44:52,500
First overall, pick to the
Buffalo Bills took the hype of

702
00:44:52,500 --> 00:44:56,300
being the first overall
selection and turned it into 11

703
00:44:56,300 --> 00:45:01,200
Pro bowls. 8, First Team, all
Pros to Second Team all Pros to

704
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:05,400
time defensive NFL player of the
year for time AFC defensive

705
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:09,400
player of the year and the
all-time sack record.

706
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:15,100
But two hundred sacks.
He was also named to the 100th

707
00:45:15,100 --> 00:45:17,700
anniversary all-time team.
So we're talking about about one

708
00:45:17,700 --> 00:45:22,000
of the Great's to ever lace them
up here, not just in hokey

709
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:27,800
history but in in terms of all
professional football and he had

710
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,800
one of the best lines in Little
Giants.

711
00:45:30,500 --> 00:45:33,100
Ha ha ha, let me see your game
faces.

712
00:45:35,700 --> 00:45:37,900
That's second.
Only to it's a couch cushion,

713
00:45:37,900 --> 00:45:46,600
sun, god.
Brian you you pretty much.

714
00:45:46,900 --> 00:45:49,000
I mean, what more can be said
for him.

715
00:45:49,500 --> 00:45:55,200
He is a tech player of his
stature that still rings.

716
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,200
I mean, we weren't old enough to
see him play at Virginia Tech.

717
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:02,000
We weren't we were in freaking
diapers when he was there, but

718
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,300
we got to see him play in the
NFL and you got to see how

719
00:46:05,500 --> 00:46:09,000
Hominid.
He was and also the one thing

720
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,800
you gotta love about Bruce's, I
mean, he's always there.

721
00:46:12,100 --> 00:46:15,400
Bruce's nipple, always in
Blacksburg on game day, he

722
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:16,800
continues to support preferring
with you.

723
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:20,000
Just awesome.
I'm hoping one of these years

724
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,500
now with me and you make that
truck up 64, then cut take a

725
00:46:23,500 --> 00:46:30,500
left down, 81 back down for 60
and to the Smoke mountains.

726
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:36,100
Do we get to meet him?
And I can't say, Much more man.

727
00:46:36,100 --> 00:46:39,100
It's just Bruce Smith.
He's at the front.

728
00:46:39,100 --> 00:46:43,500
He's the 11.
There is no question that he is

729
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,500
the greatest defensive player in
Virginia.

730
00:46:46,500 --> 00:46:50,700
Tech History Go sir.
All right buddy, I'll let you go

731
00:46:50,700 --> 00:46:52,700
with number 2 here and this one
shouldn't be too much of a

732
00:46:52,707 --> 00:46:54,700
surprise.
Either shouldn't be a surprise

733
00:46:54,700 --> 00:46:57,400
to anyone either also a
defensive end.

734
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:04,200
Corey Moore.
Oh yeah, defensive and 6-foot

735
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:09,000
225 pounds.
Cory came to us, Virginia Tech

736
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,500
from homes, Junior College in
Memphis, Tennessee.

737
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:19,100
Court was actually originally
set to enroll in Ole Miss, but

738
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,600
right about that time he was
going to enroll is when one of

739
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,400
the biggest Gamble's broke down
there.

740
00:47:24,100 --> 00:47:27,200
So he kind of backed off.
He almost, you know, called it

741
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,800
quits from plane.
Football, which is kind of crazy

742
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,700
thing, because he was going to
go to an SEC school and, you

743
00:47:32,700 --> 00:47:36,400
know, he goes to a junior
college about that time.

744
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,100
Charlie Wiles comes in, Charlie
had some connections in the

745
00:47:39,100 --> 00:47:45,500
area, Charlie got him up here
and you know, number 56 was kind

746
00:47:45,500 --> 00:47:50,200
of quiet as first couple of
years but then in 1998 he

747
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:56,100
absolutely exploded on the
scene. 13 have sex all Biggie's,

748
00:47:56,100 --> 00:48:01,900
first team defense, Pensive
Player of the Year couple

749
00:48:01,900 --> 00:48:06,100
interviews, he talked about when
they play they lost to UVA 98.

750
00:48:06,700 --> 00:48:08,900
But you can see those
conversations about when they

751
00:48:08,900 --> 00:48:11,300
went to the Music City Bowl
about how he wanted the way he

752
00:48:11,300 --> 00:48:14,300
wanted to take his seniors out.
They shouldn't go out like that

753
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,300
and then they preferably went
out stomp a mudhole in Alabama.

754
00:48:17,300 --> 00:48:23,100
38 nothing.
So, but then man 1999 came

755
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:28,000
yesterday because those eyes
when those eyes.

756
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,900
Zoned in.
He was going to come for the

757
00:48:30,900 --> 00:48:36,500
quarterbacks head and try to
kill them and Clemson's Brandon

758
00:48:36,500 --> 00:48:41,300
Streeter nationally became his
first victim on that wonderful

759
00:48:41,300 --> 00:48:43,800
Thursday night, Affair and Lane
Stadium.

760
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:49,600
When Bill Ross considers it, The
Hat Trick, The Strip, the sack,

761
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:53,900
the fumble recovery touchdown,
his total stat line just for

762
00:48:53,900 --> 00:48:55,800
that night, right?
Go back and look at it.

763
00:48:55,900 --> 00:48:59,700
I mean we've watched that game
And you see the replays and it's

764
00:48:59,700 --> 00:49:06,600
crazy two sacks for tackles for
loss, five hurries along with

765
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,300
the strip's.
Axon before touchdown.

766
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,300
That's 11 place.
He was in the backfield.

767
00:49:13,100 --> 00:49:15,900
This was at a time when teams
were running between 50 and 60

768
00:49:15,900 --> 00:49:22,100
plays the other quarter of the
time, also that night on the

769
00:49:22,100 --> 00:49:27,400
sidelines or other man the
nation watching, he coin

770
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:33,700
something That lane Stadium when
it is pink, it becomes, what era

771
00:49:33,700 --> 00:49:49,400
do
college football, but no one

772
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:53,100
could block him.
He could out block you at the

773
00:49:53,100 --> 00:49:56,100
point of attack.
Will he run by you at the point

774
00:49:56,100 --> 00:50:01,900
of attack?
That season in general, Brian 17

775
00:50:01,900 --> 00:50:07,000
sacks.
Unanimous unanimous Big East

776
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:10,700
Player of the Year Defensive
Player of the Year unanimous

777
00:50:10,700 --> 00:50:14,900
All-American ma'am Dudley Award
winner for the state.

778
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,600
Lombardi Award winner
essentially says he was the best

779
00:50:18,700 --> 00:50:22,000
offensive or defensive lineman
in the country anyone to

780
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:27,500
Nagurski the best defensive
player in the country. 35 career

781
00:50:27,500 --> 00:50:32,300
sacks 58 tackles for loss.
He became a third-round draft

782
00:50:32,300 --> 00:50:35,300
pick.
I mean only played a few years

783
00:50:35,300 --> 00:50:39,000
and the one big piece about that
is they tried to make him a

784
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:40,600
linebacker.
Yep.

785
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:45,700
Something Bud Foster has said,
is That wasn't this thing to do.

786
00:50:45,700 --> 00:50:50,000
That wasn't Cory.
Cory was attacking the edge

787
00:50:50,100 --> 00:50:53,700
attacking the quarterback.
He is fiscally dirty was coming

788
00:50:53,700 --> 00:50:55,600
after you.
That was what he wanted to do.

789
00:50:56,100 --> 00:50:59,900
This is my opinion, my opinion,
only I think you've Cory.

790
00:51:00,300 --> 00:51:03,300
I would even say in today's age,
but I think if Corey is for 25

791
00:51:03,300 --> 00:51:06,500
years later and that would put
him around 2000.

792
00:51:06,500 --> 00:51:08,800
What 425?
I think.

793
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:12,500
Cory goes to the league and
probably has a 9 or 10 year,

794
00:51:12,500 --> 00:51:15,200
career.
Oh yeah.

795
00:51:15,700 --> 00:51:16,800
What is he?
What is he doing for?

796
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:21,200
You is one of those.
Those attacking four, threes and

797
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:25,100
yeah, ones, where the defensive
line of the give its veins are

798
00:51:25,107 --> 00:51:28,700
coming at you.
I mean, even, like the Colts had

799
00:51:28,700 --> 00:51:32,100
with free and Mathis, man.
I mean, I can definitely see

800
00:51:32,100 --> 00:51:34,600
him.
You haven't having a similar

801
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:38,700
type of tumor type of game as
to, as, for any there.

802
00:51:38,900 --> 00:51:43,800
So exactly.
But but for him for that 1990,

803
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:50,700
19, I mean, he said it off and
You know, in all those

804
00:51:50,700 --> 00:51:53,500
accolades.
And if you ever want some

805
00:51:53,500 --> 00:51:57,300
entertainment, folks just laying
around here in covid-19 crisis.

806
00:51:57,300 --> 00:52:00,600
Go look up, Corey Moore at the
Sugar Bowl, press conference.

807
00:52:00,700 --> 00:52:02,200
Yep.
He was not bad.

808
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:13,400
He's just pulling exactly but
great.

809
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:17,000
Great player and brown will
throw it up to you, man.

810
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:21,300
You got to you.
Got somebody that kind of close

811
00:52:21,300 --> 00:52:24,200
to my heart.
Yeah, man.

812
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:27,900
So, next, we're going to go to D
Creek High School, another Deep

813
00:52:27,900 --> 00:52:32,200
Creek product going to be Daryl
Taps best buddy, DeAngelo Hall.

814
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:38,000
Yes, sir the ol D whole.
So what can be said about D

815
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,500
Hall?
D Hall is the epitome of a

816
00:52:40,500 --> 00:52:43,500
playmaker.
He was also the epitome of a

817
00:52:43,508 --> 00:52:46,200
trash talker but he's placed
spoke for him to.

818
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:50,600
So let's let's, let's keep it
moving as a true freshman.

819
00:52:50,700 --> 00:52:52,900
He played in all 11 games, he
started one game.

820
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:58,200
Game at 33 combined, tackles
three picks, three pass

821
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,800
breakups, followed that up with
another foreign, or the 400

822
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,400
ception and a in a forced fumble
as a sophomore.

823
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:10,700
And in 2002 to go with another
44, combined, tackles and 12

824
00:53:10,700 --> 00:53:14,200
passes, broken up.
You also had to punt returns for

825
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:19,400
a touchdown.
All right, junior year took his

826
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,600
game to the next level 3 punt.
Returns for a touchdown, had an

827
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:27,700
interception and took a ball
from somebody and took it for a

828
00:53:27,700 --> 00:53:31,000
touchdown Brian.
Give it to ya, Rosco, I'm

829
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:36,600
crying, I'm crying.
Just ripped it from Roscoe's

830
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,700
hand and said nope!
No this is mine.

831
00:53:38,700 --> 00:53:42,600
I'm going to run it in any way
and you know, there was no

832
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:44,500
throwing his way that junior
year.

833
00:53:44,500 --> 00:53:46,600
I mean he was in complete
shutdown mode.

834
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,000
That point, they were scared to
throw his weight because of

835
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:52,800
interceptions, but he was also
really good at coverage, even

836
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,400
though that part of his game,
didn't do the loudest talking.

837
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,000
He also scored two offensive
touchdowns that year, they were

838
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,600
they use them in about what four
or five games on offense mostly

839
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:05,100
in.
I think UCF was the game.

840
00:54:05,100 --> 00:54:09,900
He was used most heavily that
year and he said scored two

841
00:54:09,900 --> 00:54:13,600
offensive touchdowns, you know,
special teams Return Man on

842
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,700
punts.
He was a first team

843
00:54:15,700 --> 00:54:17,900
All-American.
Thousand three and a semi

844
00:54:17,900 --> 00:54:20,500
finalist for the Jim Thorpe
Award in 2003.

845
00:54:20,500 --> 00:54:24,400
So despite his numbers going
down that junior year in terms

846
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:28,400
of interceptions, he was on the
national radar in terms of his

847
00:54:28,500 --> 00:54:31,700
abilities that corner.
So I want to I want to throw

848
00:54:31,700 --> 00:54:33,800
that out there that just because
there's numbers went down,

849
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:35,400
didn't mean that his play was
going down.

850
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:40,900
He was absolutely in shutdown,
mode in 2003 and first round

851
00:54:40,900 --> 00:54:44,600
pick to to the Atlanta Falcons.
We have a three-time pro bowler.

852
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:50,600
Spent a bunch of years in the
league man, especially with the

853
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:54,400
Washington Redskins and really
turned his career around after,

854
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,100
having some really great years
with the Falcons out, the gate

855
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:01,200
was open Redskins.
Play, do what you're told, but

856
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:05,400
then move then move to safety.
And that's something that tells

857
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:08,700
you what kind of football player
who was is later in his career.

858
00:55:09,100 --> 00:55:13,600
On, you know, he did make that
move and he made it pretty

859
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:19,200
successful and In some people,
you know question of it will

860
00:55:19,207 --> 00:55:21,200
never come off Corners.
Now he went to free safety

861
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:24,400
played really good.
Yeah he was there it was a great

862
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,600
free safety for he's been about
three or four years three safety

863
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:31,600
after he moved from corner and
you know, some of his best years

864
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:34,600
obviously were with Atlanta but
you know, he wasn't getting

865
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:38,500
getting exactly picked on until
you know that last year or so

866
00:55:38,500 --> 00:55:41,400
when he was playing corner for
the skins and when they moved in

867
00:55:41,408 --> 00:55:44,100
the free safety, it was a pretty
smooth move and he was able to

868
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:46,600
take those.
Those ball hockey skills of the

869
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,000
always had and kind of, you
know, play center field a little

870
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:52,900
bit and makes a noise that way.
And he was always a willing

871
00:55:52,900 --> 00:55:55,900
hitter.
So he moved to safety was

872
00:55:55,900 --> 00:55:58,900
definitely a natural fit for him
as he lost a little bit of a

873
00:55:58,908 --> 00:56:01,300
step there at the end.
Yeah, you're right man.

874
00:56:01,700 --> 00:56:04,200
You said so much.
He was a lockdown player.

875
00:56:04,300 --> 00:56:08,900
I mean, so special as an athlete
so special great personality to

876
00:56:08,900 --> 00:56:12,000
Men.
He loves the school, you see him

877
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:15,200
tweet about it, a lot when guys
get drafted and guys get paid.

878
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:17,600
That are Hokies, you see him
talking about it.

879
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:23,300
I mean, I personally would love
to see him back in the program.

880
00:56:23,300 --> 00:56:27,900
In some way, I don't know if you
will because he does have that

881
00:56:27,900 --> 00:56:32,300
such a dynamic personality and
he's making his way up in the

882
00:56:32,300 --> 00:56:34,800
NFL world in the end.
Yeah, circles.

883
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:41,500
Yeah.
But nonetheless in Nathan and it

884
00:56:41,500 --> 00:56:45,500
can be fought about, but maybe
the greatest defensive back in

885
00:56:45,500 --> 00:56:48,400
the school's history.
Yeah, it can.

886
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:50,600
It's arguable because have how
many weakening?

887
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:54,500
But ain't much, I think roughly
all-around athlete at the

888
00:56:54,500 --> 00:56:57,300
position.
He's at the top and that's why

889
00:56:57,300 --> 00:56:59,900
he's sitting in our or Mount
Rushmore here.

890
00:57:00,300 --> 00:57:04,000
Yes, sir.
All right buddy, we got one more

891
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:06,700
here.
This one might not be as much of

892
00:57:06,700 --> 00:57:11,000
a no-brainer is Is the previous
three some let you take it away.

893
00:57:11,300 --> 00:57:13,500
Oh you putting this on me, huh?
Yeah.

894
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:19,100
The controversial decision of
the of the defensive Mount

895
00:57:19,100 --> 00:57:21,400
Rushmore for the Virginia Tech
Hokies.

896
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:27,100
Well folks we went back forth
back forth so many great players

897
00:57:27,100 --> 00:57:31,700
and but we landed on this guy
Ben Taylor linebacker out of Bel

898
00:57:31,700 --> 00:57:38,600
Air.
Ohio 1998 comes in Starts making

899
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:40,900
his name, and if you're a
Virginia Tech Hokies where do

900
00:57:40,900 --> 00:57:43,600
you make your name?
Special teams.

901
00:57:43,700 --> 00:57:51,400
Yes, sir played in every game
that year. 15, tackles 1999 Big

902
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:56,200
Year, Redshirt sophomore year.
He is a starter at linebacker

903
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,000
started for 10 games that
season.

904
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:03,000
He finished third on the team.
With tat, in tackles five,

905
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:09,100
tackles for loss.
One sack Venom Became Big Time

906
00:58:09,100 --> 00:58:14,200
2000 2001.
He accelerated. 2101 tackles

907
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:19,300
seven, tackles for loss, one and
a half sacks, all-big East team.

908
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:24,400
Third team, All-American,
semifinals for the Butkus 2001,

909
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:29,200
he upped it a little more 121
tackles 118.

910
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:34,100
Tackles for loss, four and a
half sacks, and the pick

911
00:58:35,300 --> 00:58:39,000
All-American again, second team
that year semifinalist for the

912
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:45,500
buckets award again and again I
ran into a what I was doing.

913
00:58:45,500 --> 00:58:48,500
My research Mentor into a lot of
Bill Ross stuff, and I love Bill

914
00:58:48,500 --> 00:58:52,900
and Bill mentions about it.
He has on the temple player so I

915
00:58:52,900 --> 00:58:56,200
go find it.
The VT freak God Rest, his soul,

916
00:58:56,200 --> 00:59:02,200
thank him for doing what he did
and we saw I saw the hit Jesus.

917
00:59:02,700 --> 00:59:06,800
Lord, he's a linebacker.
The coverage and then he

918
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:10,800
proceeded to kill the temple
wide receivers Body and Soul.

919
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:14,100
It was just awesome and brightly
I've got to stop there because I

920
00:59:14,107 --> 00:59:15,800
had to do some writing for
documents.

921
00:59:16,100 --> 00:59:18,600
You looked at it, what do you
what do you do again?

922
00:59:18,900 --> 00:59:25,200
Couple plays later, odo's back
that glaze and boat out like so

923
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:29,300
the first one was like, an out
is that he had, he had the flat,

924
00:59:29,300 --> 00:59:32,900
he had a flat coverage and on
the out, and he came up and just

925
00:59:32,900 --> 00:59:36,800
laid upon him, then the next
player, It looks like the virus.

926
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:41,300
He was running the big from the
slot and as soon as the ball was

927
00:59:41,300 --> 00:59:45,000
delivered, he just ran up and
came from the other side.

928
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,900
So running towards where the
route is being run.

929
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:51,100
So running literally freight
trains running at each other and

930
00:59:51,100 --> 00:59:55,900
he just cleans his clock.
It was it was it was so fun to

931
00:59:55,900 --> 01:00:02,600
watch me.
Like he's one of these guys is

932
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:07,400
we were talking to some folks
And you mentioned ban and you

933
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:10,100
kind of mentioned exactly as
people like, oh oh God Ben did

934
01:00:10,100 --> 01:00:12,400
what?
Yeah, it was all that gay was

935
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:16,400
but but what I think of Ben
Taylor I kind of reflect on the

936
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:21,000
type of player that he is and
he's kind of player built this

937
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:25,100
program been was a three-star
undersized linebacker coming

938
01:00:25,100 --> 01:00:29,800
about how when he was recruited,
um, and he built himself.

939
01:00:30,300 --> 01:00:32,100
He became a fourth-round draft
pick.

940
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:34,900
He spent Five Seasons in the NFL
for those brown.

941
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,700
John's one year with the Packers
and I know this is gonna

942
01:00:37,700 --> 01:00:40,200
probably just controversial pick
because we have so many great

943
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:43,500
players.
But when you think of a guy, we

944
01:00:43,500 --> 01:00:48,600
always talk about, you know, the
accolades and, you know, but

945
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:52,700
when you think of like that was
when he came in, it was 1997,

946
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:56,600
overall, that 95 year.
Those were the players were

947
01:00:56,600 --> 01:01:02,400
still building the program and
How he turned himself into a

948
01:01:02,408 --> 01:01:06,100
three-star undersized to an
All-American.

949
01:01:06,300 --> 01:01:10,200
Semifinals for buckets, getting
drafted, in the fourth round,

950
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:15,700
playing multiple years in the
NFL, that's what the program is

951
01:01:15,707 --> 01:01:19,500
built on.
And and that's why I lobbied

952
01:01:20,100 --> 01:01:22,500
Brian can tell you.
I lauded really hard for Ben to

953
01:01:22,500 --> 01:01:23,800
be.
There we were be able to several

954
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:26,500
guys who around the outside and
that's one of the big reasons I

955
01:01:26,500 --> 01:01:30,000
lobbied for him to be.
If he was, he was the one that

956
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:34,000
we Both had kind of been that
what 4 to 6 range.

957
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,000
Yep.
On our list and we were like we

958
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,500
were throwing back and forth.
It was like I think it was him

959
01:01:38,500 --> 01:01:40,000
Cornell and Jimmy were the kind
of the.

960
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,000
Yeah, this is free.
We were debating.

961
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:45,900
We were like, you know, based on
bit what Ben did and when he

962
01:01:45,908 --> 01:01:51,700
came through and just accolades,
you know, it makes sense because

963
01:01:51,700 --> 01:01:53,600
he's a linebacker that we can
put on there.

964
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:56,300
I mean all things being equal,
you know that.

965
01:01:56,300 --> 01:01:57,800
I think that was the tie breaker
for me.

966
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:00,500
I knew Curtis had him in there
anyway, but that time A breaking

967
01:02:00,500 --> 01:02:03,200
for me was that you know, I
couldn't argue with the numbers

968
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:05,800
relative to what you know, the
guys I was comparing them

969
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:08,500
against and we didn't have a
linebacker in there.

970
01:02:08,500 --> 01:02:11,000
So let's put Ben in there.
Absolutely.

971
01:02:11,900 --> 01:02:16,900
All right, fans, Tom, we got to
know yours.

972
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:22,200
So what is your poke Mount
Rushmore?

973
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:26,700
It's gonna be out binds going to
pop it on Twitter as we release

974
01:02:26,700 --> 01:02:30,100
the Pod, tell us and yes, we
are.

975
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:32,900
Admitting this will stop this
hell.

976
01:02:33,100 --> 01:02:37,100
We need actually, maybe we
should do, instead of a Mount

977
01:02:37,100 --> 01:02:40,400
Rushmore behind next year.
Let's do a monument collection

978
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:43,400
where you put like 19 guys up or
y s.

979
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:46,900
How about we do a Mount Rushmore
for every position?

980
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:52,300
Yeah, let's I will shout out our
buddy over there at the

981
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:56,700
two-minute drill field, that was
the suggestion on one of the

982
01:02:56,700 --> 01:02:59,000
Twitter boards.
Yeah, maybe maybe by position.

983
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:04,100
So let's let's take a look at
that next time but you know, we

984
01:03:04,700 --> 01:03:08,800
what do you when you said that I
had to drop the the quote on him

985
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:13,100
from A League of Their Own, man.
It's the hard that makes it.

986
01:03:13,100 --> 01:03:17,500
Great very true, my friends,
very true, it wasn't hard,

987
01:03:17,500 --> 01:03:19,300
everyone would do it.
So that's why we did it.

988
01:03:19,308 --> 01:03:22,600
We did it for you guys.
We went out there and we look

989
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:26,300
through 30 plus names, and we
said, we got to put four on the

990
01:03:26,300 --> 01:03:30,100
Hokie Stone, the Mount Rushmore
of Virginia Tech defense.

991
01:03:30,300 --> 01:03:32,800
And we did it for you.
Yes we did.

992
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:36,200
So definitely give us yours.
Give us your opinions.

993
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:38,600
We look forward to this
tomorrow.

994
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:39,900
It's probably going to make my
work day.

995
01:03:39,900 --> 01:03:42,500
Go by a hell of a lot quicker
about yours too Brian.

996
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:47,200
Yeah absolutely.
Alright guys so that wraps up

997
01:03:47,300 --> 01:03:50,400
this episode of The Boundary
corn podcast.

998
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,700
My name is Curtis Wilson, I'm
Brian seagull.

999
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:56,700
We always let our buddy.
Jason Long play us out, catch

1000
01:03:56,700 --> 01:04:00,100
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1001
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:05,100
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1002
01:04:05,100 --> 01:04:09,600
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