HIST 101: Early Lane Stadium Exploration

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Giving Longhorn.
Wow.

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Welcome at the boundary Corner
podcast.

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Brian Siegel.
How are you man?

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I'm good, buddy.
How you doing Curtis?

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We're making it here today,
sipping on a brewski.

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Watch The Incredibles with the
boys tonight, man.

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I love that movie.
You can't go wrong fix our man,

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that movie man.
That I think Incredibles 2 might

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have been, it was definitely the
first movie I saw with my older

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son and I just love that
franchise.

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As I mean, it's just such an
awesome movie.

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How about you, what you been up
to today?

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Well today, I did my good old
work from home routine.

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End up having both of my classes
cancelled today due to internet

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connectivity issues.
So my afternoon was a little bit

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different than I thought it was
going to be, but it was a

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pretty, pretty relaxing, day
nothing to complain about.

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Been been checking in on
Twitter, making sure nothing's

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been going too crazy for us.
I see some little little

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chatter, but nothing nothing too
crazy yet.

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We'll see what happens.
Definitely, definitely chatter

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right now, I think he's these
young High School bucks or

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they're getting antsy.
They can't practice.

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They got to work out at home.
They're not able to get on their

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visits, you kind of feel for
them.

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Because for so many of these
guys, this is the time of year

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where there They'd be going to
camps and making their visits.

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And you know, and it's all gone
right now.

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And for the guys who are coming
in, I mean you feel forming one

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way that they don't get that
sense of accomplishment with the

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graduation.
They don't get to walk across

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the stage and spend the waning
last few days of high school

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with their, with their probably
friends.

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They've had all their lives.
So, you know, definitely stinks,

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but you see these guys out here,
still having fun still cutting

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up, so it's awesome to see.
That man.

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Yeah, like everybody else
they're finding ways to cope

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just like we are it is very
true.

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So, you know, today folks, what
we're going to be doing, we're

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going to do some run down here
of some hokey news over the last

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few days since we last met with
you.

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But today, the big thing will be
our first poke experiences.

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Yes, sir.
All baby can't wait, can't wait.

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But let's start with some of the
big news of the of the Few days

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here, Brian.
And I got to say, probably the

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biggest thing that's happened
for the Hokies positively is man

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Luttrell Novelle for Star wide
receiver, 63 195, high power,

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High School, Missouri City,
Texas number 307 in the country,

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and 44 offers brines.
Yep, dude, that's a third of.

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Do you want football?
And it's not like, Like that the

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bottom, some of the biggest
offers he had Bama the Buckeyes,

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the Ducks and Boomer Sooners.
I mean, he was in the in the

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fall with with with Boomer
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And then, you know, things
turned sour and you know it that

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I'll take the reward, they're in
this case, so good for him, it's

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nice to have him in the fold.
It looks like You know, Dee

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Dee's out there, recruiting the
Greater Texas area area just as

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hard as bow is so yes, sir, he
is and Latrell.

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Seems like he's right on top of
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Following with DD & Bowman.
Brian, tell me, I mean, you seen

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a little bit of his tape, what
do you think of the trail just

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right now?
I mean, I think the big thing is

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that, you know, we talked about
the last couple times especially

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when we were talking about kind
of the roster makeup, we went

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through that episode and kind of
looked at everything.

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The thing we look, we We needed
was some depth at wide receiver.

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So getting a four-star guy
that's been going up against

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Texas talent for 3 years.
Now, going into his senior year

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highly rated highly coveted, by
a lot of big-time programs.

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I mean, there's nothing to
really criticize about this.

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I mean you may not you may not
call him quote unquote Elite,

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but in terms of being a
high-caliber Target, he's

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definitely as high caliber
target as you can really talk

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about.
You know, meets you say 307.

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Yes.
So we're pretty much talking

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about a top 300 player in the
country and wide receivers,

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obviously a different animal
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there's three, two, two, three
of those guys on every team that

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could potentially be to be
getting a look.

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So yeah.
Top the top, 300 wide receivers,

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nothing to scoff at.
Yeah, to me.

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He is Elite because of what you
just said, with a lot of the way

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offenses are running in high
school nowadays.

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There's two, three, four, and
even some cases you know, guys

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who are running empties It's not
what it was ten years ago, when

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all he's the number 54 wide
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He's okay, like 54 wide
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You're saying, if this guy's on
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on the field every play.
Oh yes.

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Oh yeah.
Brian unfortunately news was

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great earlier in the week, but
last night got a little

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Wednesday night, got a little
little heartbreaking for us,

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little bit little bit.
What you So elephant in the room

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we did not make this UP 844 Tony
grinds for the Joker you know

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there was a bunch of Blue Bloods
in there and then you know UVA

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and there which we didn't like
to see but in some ways I think,

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you know, it's bad because you
know that's the that's one of

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the top players in the country,
top quarterback in the country

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and, you know, we're not in this
top eight on the upside.

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In April or early April not
December.

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He was talking about wanting to
commit on December 1st.

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I think that was the thing.
He had trumpeted back in the

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first part of January, was he
wanted to do commit around

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December the 1st.
So at least we weren't hanging

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on and committing all these
resources to him, through the

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whole process.
Only to be left at the altar.

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So if it was going to happen,
I'm almost glad it did happen

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now, but it still sucks not
being one of the One of the

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eighth, and that was in heavy
consideration for him.

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Yep.
I'm with you on that.

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Very glad he did.
Go ahead, not us include us in

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this topic because of what you
mentioned with the resources.

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It does suck.
Tony is a hell of a player.

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Hell of an athlete.
You know, you know, the creme de

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La Creme of the cornerback class
this year.

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Yeah, well I'll be a week.
We talked about his versatility

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on the when we were breaking
down the 21 class in the state.

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So he's a very Well guys, I was
going to fit in good.

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Kind of with what looks like J
Hamm is going to in the sperm

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secondary perspective, so that
piece of it sucks.

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But you know, like I said, if it
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better it's happening now.
So we can go ahead and move

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forward and go to plan B.
Yeah.

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Um, so for Tony his family, best
of luck to you and all your

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endeavors, man.
Yes sir, we did get some other,

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some other good news, at least,
you know, in terms of being

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considered in a top eight or top
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Rio we had Latrell mccutchin,
top 10 for talking about

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quarterbacks that, you know, we
lose out of the Joker, but we've

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got McCutchen, they're putting
us in the top 10.

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Looks like he's been tweeting
out some some VT love a lot

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recently.
So I think Dee Dee and the other

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Latrell of down there.
Working on him a little bit.

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So that's good to see.
Oh, yeah.

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Oh yeah.
I mean, he's a number one corner

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in Texas down in Austin and his
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I in the top ten along with
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I mean, got the Trojans.
Got go.

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Tigers got the Seminoles and I
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Latrell mccutchin last year, and
I'm sure you read on this run.

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He had he heard his ACL.
So he didn't have a 2019 season.

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Correct.
And this is my thought with him.

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He's naughty eighth in the
National right now.

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I think he's six or seven feel
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If I'm wrong my apologies.
I think if he comes out and he

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plays this year and he plays at
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year.
He's on a rocket, he's going to

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be a top 50 player because I
think right now they're holding

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off because he's got the body
type.

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You've got the he's got the show
in his sophomore season but now

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you're talking about, he comes
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It's going to be like, oh we
should have never doubted this

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kid.
Let's rock it up the board and

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kind of the big thing here.
You don't see it happened a lot.

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He committed from the time,
which usually, when Nick gets

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his guys, next doesn't let him
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Yeah.
And I mean it looks like some of

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that was probably related to the
the junior junior year injury

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but at the same time you know
we've got we've gotten on him

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since since he's been on our
board who stuck with him.

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I'm hoping that you know, if he
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like you're talking about that,
you know, some of that loyalty

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and sticking by him, through
that tribulation is going to

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potentially pay off in terms of
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Seeing us as someone that didn't
turn, turn our back on him or

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you.
Not even any way during that

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recovery process.
Absolutely.

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Now even more good news, man was
the California to Virginia Tech

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movement can still out there
getting getting word, Anthony

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beavers and his top five along
with Arizona state, Florida,

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Atlantic cartoony, Florida A&M
University.

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Historically HBCU San Diego
State and Sparty, four-star guy.

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And I want to ask you this
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Got a chance to see Anthony
Anthony's tape yet, but this

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comparison is Levante David and
Levante David is an inside

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linebacker.
He's not an outside will so and

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I know he's like, he's only like
six, six 1190, but maybe again,

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you don't get to see these guys
in person, but I'm wondering if

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this frame, maybe is built a
little different to where they

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feel like, hey, this guy can
play inside linebacker 225 that

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may be the case.
I haven't seen a ton of tape on

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him, but you know, like you were
saying making the top five is

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big for this.
I mean, I don't think a few

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months ago we would have dreamed
that we were be even considered

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a top-five candidate for a
four-star out of California.

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So the fact that we're really
stretching our recruiting

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footprint out there and you
know, testing all the waters and

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see him seeing, who wants to
become a hokie.

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I think that's a big thing.
It'll be interesting to see how

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that develops.
But as far as, as far as talent,

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I mean, you know, you don't
become a four-star out to

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California for anything.
I mean that's a pretty

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competitive competitive group
out there and you're very

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similar to what they have in
Texas and Florida.

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You know, I think this might be
something if he ends up not

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getting quite the offer sheet
that he was looking for some of

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the other guys on, I know what
he tweeted out the top-5.

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It was on April Fools and they
didn't have USC in their order.

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Yeah, we're decommitted from
Yeah yeah so there was no USC,

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no Oregon and people were like
April Fools and then he comes

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back and he's like no no.
Another one to adani Mitchell

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out of Tennessee.
Another pretty, you know, for

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Star wide receiver.
Love to see.

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We're in his top five as well.
You know, again, we lost out on

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Tony but we're gaining on other
guys here, man.

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And it's, it's pretty awesome.
To see we, you know, we won't

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state of Virginia.
It's great, but it's also to see

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that we have a staff.
That's basically saying you have

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Virginia's important.
You saw Bo when we lost out, it

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is a priority, Tony was a
priority, we didn't get it but

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we're not stuck in this.
We're not stuck in a region

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anymore.
Yeah.

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We're now saying we're going to
go to Texas.

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We're going to we're going to
we're going to go to California.

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We're going to offer these kids.
Those are The two biggest states

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in this country.
There's so many football players

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there and is me and you've
discussed and no had some

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conversations other folks guys
who were ranked 40, 50 60, in

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those State classes are in
basically top tens of just about

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every state and oh yeah, we
talked about with with Luttrell

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with the commit, we got on
Sunday, you know, he's what 44

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in Texas but that's that's
number eight in Virginia by the

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if you use the 24/7 Rate is
actually at number 8 in

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Virginia.
So that's you know, when you

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look at look at it state by
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that.
Let's look at the composite

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score and see where they're
falling on the, you know, if

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you're using the like top 300.
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that because that's something
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you're looking at 0 we will use.
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that matters, but it does
nothing.

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Another thing that we need, we
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Dead period is hurting.
Some of the guys, we were trying

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to get on campus, but the other
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somewhat in our favor is because
we've set up these different

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connections and other states
were in a dead period right now.

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Virginia and recruiting
everywhere else is pretty much

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on equal footing, right?
But a percent 100% man.

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All right, let me throw it to
you.

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Hard hat.
Series cap and oh yeah.

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What you think, man?
Well, we got what we expected.

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I think we got, we got an
energetic Darryl, Tapp, and we

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got a very collected and
cerebral tear link and I think

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that's what we're going to talk
about going forward is that you

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know, tearling is going to be
the guy that's going to be the

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scheme guy.
He's in get in there and in

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scheme things up, and Taps going
to be the guy that's drilling

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their ass, getting them on the
field.

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Getting them in the the weight
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room.
And I think just the combination

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is great, and I think the other
thing that they brought up that

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is great for us.
Is that NFL pedigree and the way

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they hammered that home, kind of
in the end they're just really,

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really I think was something
that we need to focus on and the

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big thing with that is you look
at what unc's doing right now.

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You know, you got a head coach,
that's got a national

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championship ring, you got a
quarterback coach that has the

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Super Bowl ring.
Yep.

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That matters to kids with, you
know, it might seem trivial but

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it matters to kids.
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So we get something like that
with with the with Bill and with

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with Darryl in there that's
going to start mattering two

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kids.
Two hundred percent of a couple

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things that really stuck out to
me was the way Darrell and both

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of them talked about, they speak
the same language and they have

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the same thought pattern and
then Darryl said it the

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defensive scheme that bill was.
Yeah, the bill is running is

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what he Learning the soup at the
Senior Bowl in.

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What he ran.
His whole 12 years.

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So that tells me they're
connected, the other piece and

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this was Justin Hamilton.
He's like there's one guy in

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that room that you don't want to
get in a wrestling match with.

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And the other guy, you respect
how smart he is at this line.

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Boom, let me ask you this of all
the ones that they were talking

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about, you know, the payers.
What was your favorite?

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We have your Batman Robin,
right.

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All right.
Well, see I wouldn't Murdock and

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ba baracus from The A-Team baby
because they They really do kind

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of look like those guys.
Hi big guy.

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So sad.
Well, first of all, I want to

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get to Saturday night in a
second.

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The John laser interview with
Coach food was just so thank

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God.
They got talked.

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He seem loose, he brought he's
in.

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He's in the basement Command
Center.

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That's the safe Zone, man.
Exactly.

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He was definitely hitting the
good points, but just some of

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the kind of the cooler things
you brought up was, he's an 80

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movies guy loved hearing that,
and he said, it all would almost

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brought a tear to his eye when
his daughter was like, can we

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watch Ferris Bueller again?
There we go.

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Awesome, and I mean, you can't,
you can't go wrong with, with,

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with those 80s movies, man.
Right.

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This great man.
And were you shocked by his

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selection of the Monopoly piece?
Yo, I didn't catch that part.

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What was the selection?
What are you thinking?

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What do you think?
You said since you missed that

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piece?
The iron know that the apps.

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Okay, I'm going with the Iron
Man and they are always was the

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race car.
I just played it like a young

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age where it's like a race car,
I'll win.

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And then like, somebody smokes
you and bankrupt you and you

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know, like all do I did like him
going in on Some of the grilling

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aspects though talking about
having a brisket on and you know

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that's one of the things he does
to kind of hobby relax and

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everything like that.
So that was kind of cool because

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that's that's a big thing for
me.

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I mean that's been a lot of time
outside on the deck grilling

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smoking all that type of stuff.
So yeah.

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Oh yeah.
Well that's that's something

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good that he's you know, kind of
say hey I'm just like some of

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you fans out there too.
Absolutely.

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And then when he started
Saturday night food over oh yeah

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what did I text?
Run, you know, you need to ask

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him, right?
Yeah, that's another brisket

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turned out.
He said it was just average

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risk.
If he blames laser.

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Yeah.
I'd like to know what John laser

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did did did Lazer.
Those a long interview man.

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You forgot to go out there and
spread so he didn't put the

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Texas crutch Obama just Saturday
in general just influence on

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Twitter it was a breath of fresh
air to us as fans.

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Oh yeah he was answering
questions.

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You know, some people are like,
oh, it's not really him but

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then, mr.
Trey Turner decided to debunk

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that real quick with the hey
Coke Zero to ten.

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Right me what I did when I came
up for the Elite Series day

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Zero, it was like garbage.
Yep.

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And then try gives the backstory
of he was focused on, you know,

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basketball with that point in
time.

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He pretty much went to that to
stay on the radar.

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Exactly.
And you know, when you, when you

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sort of read kind of what was
said after that, like, you know,

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you can feel there's a
connection there with him and

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Coach but it was everything.
This, his Twitter game lately

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has just been up.
I think for us as fans, you

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know, it's were really happy and
he claims he was sober.

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I'll believe him.
Although he has been in the

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house with three women.
For the n22.

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Hey, so again, I seriously think
he that basement is his comfort

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zone, man.
All of a sudden he's been in

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there for was like, okay, I'm a
fire up the Twitter and see what

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happens, and it was awesome and
he went because he texted about

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going fishing with his girls and
then was about 7:45 eight

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o'clock.
He fired that thing up to like,

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12:30 he was answering all sorts
of questions, interacting.

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It was it was awesome.
And, you know, ask for follows

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and Giving him that stuff and
are we assuming that him

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thinking Drake was Prince was a
joke?

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Yes, I do.
Think the difference.

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We hope so.
Yeah, I mean he's close to our

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age, that's what.
Yeah, Hearts about to head

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coach.
I think Justin's 41 and I'm 36,

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you're 35.
We're pretty much in that same

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generational, thanks, I think,
he knows who it is.

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I think he was just messing with
People.

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So so yeah and then of course
upon the Latrell Neville

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commitment the Steven Naismith
gifts.

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Yeah.
With the that would call real

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girls like oh really
Maybe just his wife being around

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his kids and wife and maybe
that's why he's coming out

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because normally I'm getting
people talk about him, he seems

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like he's failing.
He goes to church with them.

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He's very, very family-oriented.
So, when he goes home, I'm

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wondering, it's like, I've got
to put the phone down.

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I need to spend time with my
children, chat with my wife, you

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know, yeah, I could sit here on
Twitter all day and play around,

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but but now he's getting that
opportunity and it's been really

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cool to see, man.
I mean, I'll say this just

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Looking at everything.
It looks like he's a guy that

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compartmentalizes things very
well.

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Yeah, you know, he he manages it
and then he puts it to the side

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and when he's doing one thing,
he's not doing another and then

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they'll die back into that when
it's time.

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So I think that's why maybe he
comes off as, you know, maybe

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his personality isn't what you
think it is because he's not

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bringing everything in all at
once.

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He's focused on.
Okay.

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Well, It's post-game interview.
So here's my post game interview

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that I did, then, you know,
things like that.

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And I think, you know, obviously
there are going to be those

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moments where he's 100% himself,
but that may be reserved for his

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players and his family and not
for the general public, although

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we have seen crazy insane for
you and some, some one of the

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Twitter guys brought it up was
like, what exactly did you say

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to the refs on the card game
game back in 16 they got you a

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personal foul.
It's not suitable for print.

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I remember when that because we
hadn't really seen the a lot of

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emotion from, but when we saw
that say, okay, this kind of set

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a fire it up, you always want to
say is if this was like a bar

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fight, I think he would have
punched the rep in the face.

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Oh yeah.
Accuracy accurate.

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So folks we're going to move on
and we're going to go to some of

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our first hokey experiences and
Brawn leadoff man.

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Cuz you You got me by a year
buddy, Brian.

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Got you by a year and I got you
on some I guess maybe you've got

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the you've got the saddest
story.

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I've got the weirdest ones, so
cute.

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We'll start with the more
straightforward one.

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So that the actual first time
set foot in Tulane stadium was

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2002 Rutgers.
All right give me the backstory.

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How'd you get all right.
Backstory backstory so your boy.

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Was not on the Travel Squad.
His first year Hammond Sydney

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full disclosure.
Yep, I know that's going to

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sadden everyone.
They thought I was some sort of

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baller, I did start but not my
freshman year.

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So with so when the team was
away, your boy was at home and I

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happen to have a good buddy up
in Blacksburg the said, hey, I

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got you a ticket.
Let's roll as Matt wasn't met

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more, not more.
So get to Blacksburg my boy

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lives in lately.
Hall, he's a Once I get we get

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to Lee Hall, we're hanging out,
we go, I forget where we went.

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We went to get a bite of food
and we came back and he realized

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he forgot his hokey past.
He's like, I know a secret,

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though.
It's like Lee Hall door across

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from the basketball practice
facility.

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If you push it in and then Jerk
it out real quick.

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She'll come open even though
it's locked.

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Okay, so we got in.
This is going to come to this.

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There's a theme here.
That's very good.

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Important for later
consideration for your second

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experience, you know?
And then we had another buddy,

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actually a cousin of mine named
Jeff Hudson.

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He had an apartment.
So we went over to his place

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later and did some pre-gaming
and then hit up the tailgate

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seen for a little bit just
before we went into the game.

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All right, well, hold on.
Where'd you tailgate first

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place?
Oh, man.

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I'm trying to remember where we
were tailgating.

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You did you like, was it like
kicking Hill Duck?

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Pond.
It was, what was that fun?

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And so little duck pond that we
head to the stadium.

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So as for the game itself, it
was one of those games.

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Those classic hokey games were.
We're way better than the

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opponent but this game is way
closer than it should be

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freaking Rutgers.
Yeah.

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But the big plays, I don't know
if anybody remembers this but

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the Kevin Jones reverse field
touchdown.

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It's one of the Highlight, the
one of the first big Kevin Jones

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highlights.
And you want to remember this

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that, that was the end of it.
Stuck with me most because I was

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like, I'd never seen a running
back, do something like that

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because, you know, he reversed
field and Escape then wound back

445
00:26:44,100 --> 00:26:46,500
around to the middle of the
field and hit the sidelines.

446
00:26:46,500 --> 00:26:48,200
Again then was back in the
middle of the field for the

447
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,600
touchdown.
Then we had the Angelo Hall, had

448
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,000
a punt return late in the game
to kind of close things out.

449
00:26:55,500 --> 00:26:58,400
But the game kind of was slow
because we had a lot of mistakes

450
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:03,200
and a couple turnovers But the
big thing is in the thing that

451
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,500
stood out and we have talked
about this early, Lee Suggs had

452
00:27:06,500 --> 00:27:09,000
himself a game.
He did you played against that

453
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,000
guy, so even more fitting for
you buddy?

454
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,900
Yes he did.
Yeah, so he was just under 200

455
00:27:14,900 --> 00:27:19,600
yards, rushing KJ, had another
like 130.

456
00:27:19,700 --> 00:27:22,200
Oh my God, and then emo had
about 25.

457
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:27,000
So we had 350 combined, rushing
yards between slugs, KJ and emo.

458
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,700
I love emo man, but you remember
that year?

459
00:27:29,900 --> 00:27:32,400
That was The Untouchables you
Yes.

460
00:27:32,700 --> 00:27:34,300
I mean did I get chills thinking
about that?

461
00:27:34,300 --> 00:27:36,300
Those guys were so damn, good,
man.

462
00:27:36,900 --> 00:27:41,300
So damn good Suggs.
Just out there, just rolling

463
00:27:41,300 --> 00:27:43,800
over people and then once he got
past them running away from

464
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:48,300
people and KJ, just, I mean a
man, he just so electric on the

465
00:27:48,300 --> 00:27:52,500
field, just hard to hard to
really compare to anybody else

466
00:27:52,500 --> 00:27:54,300
and he KJ was just so electric
out there.

467
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,600
Nice.
All right.

468
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,200
What about you, man?
What was your first?

469
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,500
Give us your first run down.
Let's start with the backstory.

470
00:28:00,500 --> 00:28:01,800
Hi.
Let's go back.

471
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:07,300
Get the years 2003. 2007, 17
years ago.

472
00:28:07,300 --> 00:28:09,100
Let's let's do that.
And Shake our heads.

473
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,900
Remember Travis own.
Oh yeah.

474
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,400
Travis on.
I had ran into him like the

475
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,500
weekend before he was moving up
the going back to Tech and he

476
00:28:17,500 --> 00:28:19,500
said, hey do come up Labor Day
weekend, we'll find you a

477
00:28:19,500 --> 00:28:22,400
ticket.
Will go the game, awesome, man.

478
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,400
You know, I went ahead got off
from work for the whole weekend

479
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,200
except Monday of Labor Day
weekend.

480
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,100
I'm in Community College at
that.

481
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:35,100
At point in time.
So I go to my classes and about

482
00:28:35,100 --> 00:28:38,000
my thing, my last class ended at
11:00.

483
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:43,000
So I get in the truck head back
to so Bo my parents know I'm

484
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,600
leaving, but I got to go pack my
bags and stuff, and I gotta get

485
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,300
in touch with Travis, so he
knows I'm coming.

486
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:57,100
Well, I call traps No answer.
I called him again.

487
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,700
No answer.
This is the now I've got a

488
00:28:59,708 --> 00:29:01,700
cellphone at this point so
we're, you know, we're not that

489
00:29:01,700 --> 00:29:05,800
aging folks.
Yeah, whatever he wanted.

490
00:29:06,500 --> 00:29:08,400
He's up in school, you probably
get smashed.

491
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,500
Last night, I'll go home.
Get on Iron Man's team and get

492
00:29:11,500 --> 00:29:15,100
his address and tell him.
I'm awake go home.

493
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,400
And remember the old feed I am
when it was black.

494
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:23,300
It was like Oh, that's not good.
Yeah, yeah, go home.

495
00:29:23,700 --> 00:29:29,000
He's not there.
It's been like 26 hours like,

496
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,500
since he was at his computer.
Where are you being mean?

497
00:29:31,500 --> 00:29:36,700
Oh, my God.
Now, of course, I know lots of

498
00:29:36,700 --> 00:29:41,500
guys in Blacksburg, I mean, you
know, Wilkerson Hudson, your

499
00:29:41,500 --> 00:29:45,400
cousin but I'm sitting here, I'm
like, crap.

500
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,600
And I just saw A ping Matt
Hastings.

501
00:29:50,300 --> 00:29:51,800
Hey yo.
Matt, we doing man.

502
00:29:51,900 --> 00:29:53,600
Things like I do just drink the
beer.

503
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,800
I do.
You seen Travis on?

504
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,900
I know you guys are up to he's
like now it's like damn it.

505
00:29:59,100 --> 00:30:01,100
I'm like dude I'm supposed to
come up and crash with him.

506
00:30:01,100 --> 00:30:04,500
This weekend Go the game party.
He's like dude bleep him.

507
00:30:04,700 --> 00:30:08,600
Here's my address, get your ass
in your truck and come, so I'm

508
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,900
like screw it.
Love, Matt went up there.

509
00:30:12,500 --> 00:30:14,600
He was living at Fox Ridge at
the point in time.

510
00:30:15,500 --> 00:30:17,300
That's Ridge.
Fox Ridge.

511
00:30:17,700 --> 00:30:21,800
With him on Friday night, catch
up with Wilkerson on Saturday

512
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,700
and stayed with him.
We roam because that it was

513
00:30:25,700 --> 00:30:26,900
going to sound really weird
folks.

514
00:30:26,900 --> 00:30:29,700
But that first game I went to
was on Labor Day.

515
00:30:29,700 --> 00:30:33,200
Sunday, as A330 kick.
So partied.

516
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,400
All weekend.
Hang out with a boy Brian.

517
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,200
Hang out with Matt.
Lot of the other boys from back

518
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:38,700
home.
Get house all around.

519
00:30:38,700 --> 00:30:44,900
Five Trish have a blast wake up
game day tailgate down at prices

520
00:30:44,900 --> 00:30:47,400
for I don't get to get smashed
though.

521
00:30:47,500 --> 00:30:51,200
No, because I have to drive back
home after the game.

522
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:10,000
I don't know, blares Mary name.
Now had a great time game was

523
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:14,500
August, 31st, 2003 against UCF
man.

524
00:31:15,100 --> 00:31:18,700
And dude, I forgotten.
Pieces of this game.

525
00:31:18,700 --> 00:31:22,400
So I went back hokey tape.
Shoutout, we wish you were still

526
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,200
up.
It was screw those guys who got

527
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,800
you kicked off, man.
I hate them.

528
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:33,900
But dude the amount of Talent on
the team and I won't.

529
00:31:33,900 --> 00:31:36,500
You start going through names
and you're going to be like yep.

530
00:31:36,700 --> 00:31:40,200
So Brian Randall.
Marcus Vick did Jones Humes.

531
00:31:40,300 --> 00:31:43,400
Jake Grove.
Got to get you out while I'm in

532
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,100
love.
Jeff, King Will Montgomery.

533
00:31:45,100 --> 00:31:49,900
Wilfred coach, Justin Hamilton
catching a wide receiver at

534
00:31:49,900 --> 00:31:51,700
wide.
Receiver catching a touchdown,

535
00:31:52,100 --> 00:31:54,200
the next season, he's at running
back.

536
00:31:54,300 --> 00:31:58,900
So you how to develop he is on
the defense offense and special

537
00:31:58,900 --> 00:32:00,800
teams.
The hall was doing everything

538
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,000
that day.
He caught a couple passes punt

539
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,900
return and we'll throw some just
this is like the this the love

540
00:32:06,900 --> 00:32:10,300
name's Daryl.
Cat has his first game at Tech

541
00:32:10,900 --> 00:32:15,900
as Taps first.
Omnitech men Nathaniel DB cold

542
00:32:15,900 --> 00:32:19,300
is cold, the Lewis Brothers
Vegas Robinson Jimmy Williams

543
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,200
when I was watching this game
and the pieces of it it was just

544
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:29,600
like this is awesome and you
know the first live touchdown.

545
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,100
I got to see the here Skipper.
Fire and Tech trying to be

546
00:32:33,100 --> 00:32:40,300
played with Kevin Jones for the
touchdown run and there we go.

547
00:32:40,300 --> 00:32:45,000
And You have some invalid pretty
close games to.

548
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,800
It's kind of like you're going
to take one up big 28 knots,

549
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:52,300
then UCF didn't score 21 in a
row Tech didn't score 21 in a

550
00:32:52,308 --> 00:32:59,100
row to put it Out Of Reach and
one 4928 Bryan Randall toward up

551
00:32:59,100 --> 00:33:02,700
markets through a TD defense
plate, great but I didn't

552
00:33:02,700 --> 00:33:06,100
realize how much talent you see.
I've had that Brandon Marshall

553
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:12,000
Atari big be Matt Prater.
I mean, that's that's cause it's

554
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,900
the significant time in the
league.

555
00:33:13,900 --> 00:33:17,500
And, yeah, that was my first
experience first time.

556
00:33:17,500 --> 00:33:20,200
I jumped.
It was unbelievable.

557
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,400
You know, I toast Wilkinson and
I don't think I can't remember

558
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,400
ever saw Travis that weekend,
but I don't know.

559
00:33:29,500 --> 00:33:31,200
Did you ever did you ever talk
to him later?

560
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,800
We like what the hell?
I did and basically he went on a

561
00:33:33,808 --> 00:33:37,000
bender for like three days.
Okay.

562
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,800
So he was he was outside his For
several days.

563
00:33:46,100 --> 00:33:52,100
He crashed with him a couple
times so he made it up to in a

564
00:33:52,108 --> 00:33:53,600
nice way.
All right.

565
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,100
So Brian, we're doing multiple
experiences.

566
00:33:56,100 --> 00:33:59,200
So what is experience?
Number two for you?

567
00:34:01,700 --> 00:34:03,900
That's going to be Commonwealth
cups.

568
00:34:03,900 --> 00:34:10,800
Same hero to in laying there
were snow flurries in the second

569
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,000
half which I think is documented
the last time.

570
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,600
There's been snowed during a
game.

571
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:21,400
Yes, it was, it was barely there
but it was it was blowing

572
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,100
sideways.
That was a windy day.

573
00:34:24,199 --> 00:34:28,600
So I actually wrote up with a
friend of mine from high school,

574
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:33,100
Tyler Abbott and my
step-brother, For Wilkerson, we

575
00:34:33,100 --> 00:34:37,000
actually got tickets last minute
apparently.

576
00:34:37,199 --> 00:34:42,900
Justin's mom had them for some
sort of client event that got

577
00:34:42,900 --> 00:34:46,500
canceled so she just passed them
on to us.

578
00:34:46,900 --> 00:34:50,800
I was like sure why not?
But as we all know, it's

579
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:55,699
Thanksgiving.
So not as many people on campus

580
00:34:55,699 --> 00:34:59,400
as their normal would be.
So I coordinated with again, my

581
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:03,800
cousin, Jeff Hudson.
Like yeah, I'll be up there so

582
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,200
you can crash at my place.
You guys can crash at my place.

583
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,600
Looks like perfect.
You know I wasn't planning on

584
00:35:08,607 --> 00:35:12,300
getting like super trashed
afterwards but I don't know.

585
00:35:12,300 --> 00:35:14,700
I didn't really get trashed with
Tyler very much.

586
00:35:14,700 --> 00:35:18,200
So I wasn't sure how that was
going to work but anyway anyway

587
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:20,600
that's a different different
story.

588
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:24,500
Not not really pertinent right
now so I was like yeah, just a

589
00:35:24,508 --> 00:35:26,600
place to lay my head, you know
whatever.

590
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:31,400
So you get to the game we are in
South.

591
00:35:31,500 --> 00:35:36,500
South Endzone.
Okay, yeah, decent seats are

592
00:35:36,500 --> 00:35:38,600
great seats.
It's unlikely, but that's

593
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:43,400
exactly.
And the game, you know, tight

594
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:47,700
throughout the big play, the
game was the J, Hamm plus r, and

595
00:35:47,700 --> 00:35:51,000
who scooped it?
Oh, that's a detached scoop and

596
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:51,800
score there.
Sir.

597
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,100
That's DTaP scoop obvious, and
it's crazy to think those guys

598
00:35:55,100 --> 00:35:57,400
are on the staff down room.
Yeah.

599
00:35:58,100 --> 00:36:01,000
So J, Hamm had the plum blog
DTaP scoop and score for the

600
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:05,000
touchdown.
Final score, 20 19, again last

601
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,000
game that there was actually
documented snow during the game,

602
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,400
but here's where things get
interesting for me.

603
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:18,600
And my two compatriots text.
My cousin after the game.

604
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:23,200
Hey man, cool.
If we come over and he texts

605
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,100
back.
Yeah, well, you, Kiki calls me

606
00:36:25,100 --> 00:36:27,100
back at this point.
What we weren't weird text, but

607
00:36:27,100 --> 00:36:28,900
out, he, he got back to the,
yeah.

608
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,300
I wasn't able to get back up
there, huh?

609
00:36:32,700 --> 00:36:38,000
What this have been something
great to know several hours ago,

610
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:43,300
several hours.
So, you know, we're kind of in

611
00:36:43,300 --> 00:36:47,800
no-man's land because none of us
felt like driving back but at

612
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,000
the same time, none of us had a
place to go.

613
00:36:52,900 --> 00:36:59,400
So we were also 18, so none of
us really wanted to get a hotel

614
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:04,700
room because we were all kind of
for college broke college kids.

615
00:37:05,700 --> 00:37:08,200
So, we made the Strategic
decision.

616
00:37:08,300 --> 00:37:11,500
Well, I did in this case because
I was the one that had the

617
00:37:11,500 --> 00:37:16,000
golden ticket and that golden
ticket was I knew how to get

618
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:21,500
into Lee home.
So, I did the push-pull trick

619
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,600
worked like a charm.
Walked up to the second floor.

620
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,400
Grabbed a couple Sofas in the
common room, crash for the

621
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,500
night.
Woke up at about 7:00, 8:00 in

622
00:37:31,500 --> 00:37:36,600
the morning, drove back on.
Now that is that that's not the

623
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,600
last of the great Lee Hall
stories, but the third one has

624
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:44,100
nothing really to do with
football first date.

625
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,700
Picking up my wife driving the
Blacksburg.

626
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:52,800
She says she lives in Lis home,
she's like I was like hey I'm

627
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,300
almost there.
She was like I'll come down to

628
00:37:54,300 --> 00:37:56,300
let you know it's like don't
worry about it.

629
00:37:56,300 --> 00:37:58,800
I know how to get to your dorm
creeper.

630
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,100
Somehow she still went on this
date with me and somehow later

631
00:38:02,100 --> 00:38:11,800
she married me and you Yeah, but
Lee Hall has been good to me

632
00:38:12,700 --> 00:38:15,600
every time we walk by every time
we've won up, you always point

633
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,700
you like get in right there or
at least I could do.

634
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,800
So, Curtis you got a what I
would call a heartbreaking story

635
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,400
from a phantom effect and you
wanted to share for your second.

636
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,900
Okay, sighs, well one really
experience but it's a story,

637
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:38,200
great homie a moment.
And a couple weeks before the

638
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:42,500
mind again, Ron, Wilkerson want
to guide.

639
00:38:42,500 --> 00:38:44,700
We've known forever man.
Came here.

640
00:38:44,700 --> 00:38:49,300
If you gave me a call or send me
a message, only ol, he said

641
00:38:49,700 --> 00:38:54,200
Curtis, I've got a ticket to the
Miami came in the North End

642
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,300
Zone.
The guy's got to be out of town

643
00:38:56,300 --> 00:38:59,900
wedding family, something he
wants, 65 bucks for it.

644
00:38:59,900 --> 00:39:03,200
So somewhere in there, a
reasonable price.

645
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,400
And I'm like get that bleeping
ticket.

646
00:39:06,500 --> 00:39:10,800
I'm coming.
Yes, I'm so jacked now, the

647
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,400
Wynwood I was sales, everybody
remember.

648
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,700
No three were unbeaten.
Freakin screwed the pooch

649
00:39:15,700 --> 00:39:19,500
against West Virginia, the week
before, but still that game was

650
00:39:19,500 --> 00:39:22,900
tight.
It was Saturday night, it was on

651
00:39:22,900 --> 00:39:29,300
ESPN place was jacked, but I
didn't get to see it.

652
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:33,700
Because, as I'm sitting there,
all happy, tell my folks, hey,

653
00:39:33,700 --> 00:39:36,700
I'm going to Blacksburg this
weekend call into work.

654
00:39:36,700 --> 00:39:39,700
Hey, I'm not coming into work.
I need to be off this week.

655
00:39:41,700 --> 00:39:44,800
Well, Ryan, you've heard the
story and it's sad.

656
00:39:45,100 --> 00:39:48,500
Oops, it is.
The car insurance bill came for

657
00:39:48,500 --> 00:39:52,200
the truck.
My mom walks into my room, hey

658
00:39:52,300 --> 00:39:55,400
you need to pay this.
I look at the bill.

659
00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:04,600
I look at my bank account. and
needless to say, You show Curtis

660
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:08,800
didn't get to go to the tech,
Miami game of 2003.

661
00:40:10,100 --> 00:40:13,300
I watched it at home because I
was literally broke after I

662
00:40:13,308 --> 00:40:17,400
wrote that, check for my car
insurance, it was an amazing

663
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,500
experience.
But one of the sad things is of

664
00:40:19,900 --> 00:40:25,100
that crowd, that night was
electric, that crowd watching it

665
00:40:25,100 --> 00:40:28,900
at home.
You that was one of those games.

666
00:40:29,300 --> 00:40:32,200
And then, all the plays that
happened with you, No, give it

667
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:36,700
to me Rosco and you know, just
blowing the doors off the

668
00:40:36,700 --> 00:40:41,400
minute, third quarter.
I admit I believe I cried that

669
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:51,000
night because I know, not just
in South Endzone, the North End

670
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,700
Zone, the creme, de La Creme of
Sikhs.

671
00:40:54,700 --> 00:41:02,300
For Tech game for when we were
in that age in my 20s, so yeah.

672
00:41:05,300 --> 00:41:08,000
I think that would have been
worth taking the dean up, man.

673
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:12,200
I didn't know much better.
I'm just saying that might have

674
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,400
been worth it.
Oh yeah, but you know, the

675
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,300
issues, my parents were really
good friends with the Farm

676
00:41:18,300 --> 00:41:20,900
Bureau agent.
If I hadn't paid that a lot of

677
00:41:20,900 --> 00:41:26,100
been a out of been given hell
yeah, it is what it is.

678
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:30,600
All right?
So guys, this week, we're not

679
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,700
really doing a poll but we're
going to do some open-ended.

680
00:41:34,300 --> 00:41:39,500
Questions your first time in
Lane Stadium who is that first

681
00:41:39,500 --> 00:41:45,000
player?
That just pop to you Braun.

682
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,000
Go ahead with yours from that
game at Rutgers.

683
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,500
And I think it's in a way for
you.

684
00:41:49,500 --> 00:41:54,700
It's probably a little more, a
little more personal.

685
00:41:56,900 --> 00:41:59,000
Yeah.
So I'm going to I'm going to

686
00:41:59,300 --> 00:42:01,500
preface this with, I'm probably
going to give some love to see

687
00:42:01,500 --> 00:42:05,900
people here, but I'm going to go
with Lee Suggs as the

688
00:42:05,900 --> 00:42:10,300
sentimental pick here.
I was in high school, we played

689
00:42:10,300 --> 00:42:13,800
against them when he when he was
still still in high school and I

690
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:21,100
do man just watching him was
kind of like it's like oh that's

691
00:42:21,100 --> 00:42:24,300
what a running back can be like
because you know we didn't I

692
00:42:24,300 --> 00:42:25,900
didn't really experience that up
until that point.

693
00:42:25,900 --> 00:42:27,500
I was like, okay well, That's
what it is.

694
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,700
I got a buddy that got truck by
Suggs.

695
00:42:30,700 --> 00:42:33,200
Jackie Rogers will talk about it
to this day.

696
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:34,900
Jesse Roger still talks about to
this day.

697
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,500
Jesse Rogers, one of those,
like, undersized Scrappy guys

698
00:42:38,500 --> 00:42:43,700
that played on both sides of the
line and, you know, Subs was

699
00:42:43,700 --> 00:42:45,400
coming through the hole and he
decided.

700
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,200
All right, I'm going to stick my
head in here and see what I can

701
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,200
do.
And he landed flat on his back

702
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:54,900
and lie kept on going.
So, yeah.

703
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,100
You know, big shout-out to Lee
Suggs.

704
00:42:57,100 --> 00:43:01,200
I mean he had a huge game was
193 yards, rushing two

705
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:05,700
touchdowns and just every time
he touched the ball looks like

706
00:43:05,707 --> 00:43:09,200
he gained five or six yards
minimum, I mean, and then he was

707
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,800
going to be, he broke a couple
20 yarders broke a couple 30

708
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,300
yarders, I mean he was just up
and down the field.

709
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:19,400
I know KJ had probably the most
electric play of that game but I

710
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:24,700
came away a big still Lee Suggs
believer because of just how

711
00:43:24,700 --> 00:43:26,600
dominant he was from start to
finish.

712
00:43:26,700 --> 00:43:30,800
In this and another sentimental,
shout out for that game is to

713
00:43:31,500 --> 00:43:35,900
Bryan, Randall, because at the
time, not only being a tech fan,

714
00:43:36,300 --> 00:43:39,600
but my already down the hall
from me and him to Sydney was

715
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:45,100
Brandon, Randall Brian's older
brother stretch for for him and

716
00:43:45,100 --> 00:43:47,000
Sidney for, for a few years
there.

717
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,900
So, it was fun, you know, having
that little tie in that, you

718
00:43:50,900 --> 00:43:53,900
know, not everybody knew about.
So it was kind of cool when

719
00:43:54,300 --> 00:43:57,200
always been a big, big Brian.
No fan.

720
00:43:58,100 --> 00:44:01,900
Just think you know he was a he
was a guy that probably somewhat

721
00:44:01,900 --> 00:44:06,800
underrated in terms of the The
Glory Days of Virginia Tech from

722
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:10,600
a quarterback perspective.
So you know Vic and in tie rod

723
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,700
get the get the most loved and
Logan gets a lot of love I think

724
00:44:13,700 --> 00:44:17,600
sometimes we forget about Brian
so that's my two.

725
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,800
What about you?
But um the first one you

726
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:25,800
mentioned in with that run but
Kevin Jones, his the first play

727
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,300
I ever saw Was not a Kevin Jones
play.

728
00:44:28,300 --> 00:44:32,000
His was the second.
The first was, does geese like

729
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:36,400
full big 43 to fullback a little
catching will pass beer and but

730
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:41,200
watching some of his jump cuts
and just again when I watch that

731
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,600
game through hokey tapes and
yeah I kind of went back and

732
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:47,800
said he was that good.
And Kevin Jones was that good in

733
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,800
the NFL.
Kevin Jones doesn't get that

734
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,500
list.
Frank spring.

735
00:44:51,500 --> 00:44:56,500
My opinion on him is of the
2000-2010.

736
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,800
Is he would have been considered
one of the best running backs.

737
00:45:00,100 --> 00:45:05,300
Now, the other guy and this is
just straight up just because of

738
00:45:05,300 --> 00:45:09,400
who he was, it's the hall D
whole plate, everything that

739
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,800
game, he caught two passes for
40 yards.

740
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:13,300
He was always a ballroom
defense.

741
00:45:13,300 --> 00:45:17,000
He was legitimately one of the
best punt returners in college

742
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:18,800
football.
History, not just in Virginia

743
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,500
Tech History college football,
history and just to see him.

744
00:45:22,500 --> 00:45:26,500
He was out there so much.
Those are my two guys.

745
00:45:26,700 --> 00:45:30,700
Now, you know fans, but will ask
you guys to do, if you've got

746
00:45:30,700 --> 00:45:35,000
one, if you've got to put them
out there and tell us who was

747
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,000
that first player.
That when you saw them, that

748
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:42,200
first game you went to, was it
like, oh boy, this is different.

749
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,300
All right.
Brian, have we missed anything.

750
00:45:45,300 --> 00:45:50,100
Any breaking Twitter news while
you sat here and, you know,

751
00:45:51,300 --> 00:45:53,800
relive, some below, see,
anything popping up for me.

752
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,100
I don't see anything popping up,
so I think we're good to go.

753
00:45:56,100 --> 00:45:58,800
I don't think.
We've had anything anything that

754
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,100
we need to break right now.
I'll definitely say hello.

755
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:05,500
But You know, tomorrow is
another day.

756
00:46:05,500 --> 00:46:07,500
So I think I think we got some
good news coming down the

757
00:46:07,508 --> 00:46:09,200
future.
So I mean, you feel like there's

758
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,700
some momentum and I'm with you.
So, hopefully the next time we

759
00:46:12,700 --> 00:46:16,700
do this, we're talking about
three four, five, six commits

760
00:46:16,700 --> 00:46:19,400
where, which slight whoa, what
happened.

761
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:24,200
So let's do this man.
This is going to wrap up this

762
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,400
episode of The Boundary Corner
podcast.

763
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,900
My name is Curtis Wilson.
I'm Brian ceiling is always we

764
00:46:30,900 --> 00:46:34,900
let our guy Jason Long play out.
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765
00:46:34,900 --> 00:46:37,700
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766
00:46:38,100 --> 00:46:42,100
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