Heels Find Hokies Achilles

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We're almost gave up drinking.
I could bang the three and I

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ain't even started exercise.
Welcome back to the boundary

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Corner podcast.
My name is Curtis Wilson along

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with my co-host bronzy glow.
Hey buddy, I almost gave up

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drinking but then the game
happened today.

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Jesus did that game where the I
definitely went full fat kid

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mode in like 8 and drink my
feelings after that game.

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Rough game and pokies.
Fall to the Tar, Heels 56:45.

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We're drinking our feelings away
with drinking till we don't feel

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feelings anymore.
I'm holding a mother, Sam Adams

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Boston, Lager Brian's probably,
would you pick up tonight,

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Brett, the brick wrecking
Bachmann been rolling.

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The brecon böck crime Squad and
Bach.

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It's after midnight.
The Highlight just came on

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SportsCenter about two minutes
before we hit record.

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And so, even more freaking ain't
little salt in the wound there,

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this salting like we're sitting
here talking through the stuff

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anyway.
And it's like, oh, here it is

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again, right in the side.
So guys, you know, 56:45 in one,

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just kind of wild crazy game.
We're going to hit some few

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things here tonight.
Looking at tape looking at some

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breakdowns Galahad a stop in the
middle of the game and head over

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to a kid's birthday party.
But I think he was able to come

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back, get enough of the
viewings, unfortunately, of the

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remaining parts of the second
half he missed, it wasn't scored

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some points in that they can
happen.

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Wow, I mean, yeah, everyone
points to use those.

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I mean, if I told you, we put a
45 and 260 on the ground.

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Hell we're probably thinking
shit lie.

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Ali won this game, but I thought
that was a 10 point win, but no,

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a laugh.
Let's hit it up, Brian.

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Let's get it rolling.
Let's start with the what you

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said you wanted to focus on
Virginia Tech's defense today

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and let us start with this.
Brian coming in you and he was

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rushing for 168 yards, a game,
that's not bad, pretty good them

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sumbitches, tripled that up.
Pretty much today.

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Yes yeah not good at all the
one-two punch of Williams and

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Michael Carter-Williams with 169
yards on the ground quarter with

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214 and Brian.
We've been going back and forth.

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What the hell happened to our
linebacker Corps today?

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Man, I was watching the game.
I went back and watched some

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tape later, man, the linebackers
play, probably the worst game

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I've seen them play Since since
stuff.

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So, I've watched this unit play
together.

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You know, Richard Ashby didn't
have a great game Dax.

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Hollifield had a horrible game,
Alan Tisdale was Good in spots

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and bad and spots.
And it was just bad all around

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man.
They played timid.

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They got bad reads and they did
not tackle.

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Well.
I like that's the trifecta right

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there.
Like what three things?

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Well, maybe it's a different
outcome, right?

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If you've been at least tackle,
which is one thing we emphasize

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they needed to do in this game
if we wanted to win, if you at

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least a car while you probably
take maybe 10 points off the

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board.
They're so in that that might

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have been enough to, to pull out
a victory, or at least have a

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chance there at the end.
But damn, dude, we did not do

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it.
I mean, it was, it was, it was

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bad.
It really showed the lack of

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athleticism that we have at the
linebacker position, they were

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up on us at the second level
pretty much.

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Every time they ran the ball,
Like even when we did the right

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thing that they were getting
five and six yard games and the

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running game, like it was, it
was bad, but it was as bad as

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I've seen our run rush defense
ever, why don't you send me

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some, some screenshots?
And some of them it just looked

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like we were taking just
horrible steps.

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Like, you know, one of the ones
you sent me on was Tisdale

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essentially flowing back up to
Brooks position.

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And what does that was?
That huge run that massive what?

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40?
50 yard, run?

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Yes, 40-yard running Williams,
got nudged out on the sidelines.

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I think the Run started at about
the 20 and then they ended up on

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the other side like 38 yard
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So I mean it was it was a big
run and you know what happened

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was kind of kind of simple
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So, you know you had Tisdale
that got a bad read ended up

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about one gallon Gap further to
the to the right of the

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formation.
And he should have been and that

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left a big hole and then Matheny
was a little late with the plug

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missed the tackle.
And all of a sudden, you got

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this huge gain down the
sideline, which if Tisdale made

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the raid read, he's probably
there to assist Matheny making

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that play in The Gap.
Instead of chasing the play, I

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mean, Tisdale got got blocked
and he blocked wrote for me.

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Never pursue their because the
guy that was supposed to blog

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work ended up blocking Tisdale
on that play to the when you

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talked about it, if he steps
into that Gap, the running back

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in either face them head-on
because the way that the way

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that run was blocked, he would
have been unblocked in the Gap.

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Yeah.
I mean, it's the guy can't hit

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him and take the two or three
yard game, Mort's.

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The hump.
And we see any constitute a man?

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No, they were getting to their
spot when they wanted to just

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about every play and that like I
said, we talked about it a

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couple weeks ago like when when
you're able to get to your spot

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as a running back that gives you
options and what you can do with

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the cutbacks or getting up the
alley like you at least have

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options and we gave them options
all day.

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They were able to get to the
second level and kind of pick

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their poison with based on what
was left in the back end.

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And when you couple that with
not tackling well across the

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board but especially if the
linebacking position is trouble,

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man, it's a big, big clusterfuck
of a mess.

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Let me ask you, is to go, just
going forward because we're

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going to hit a couple other
things here.

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The problem you call it a day,
are they?

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Fixable they are fixable but
it's going to take.

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I think if we play another Elite
level team that has this effort,

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This is woman, runs this type of
offense and has Lyman that can

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push around our defensive
tackles a little bit.

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We're going to still struggle
because I don't think we have

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enough athleticism at the
linebacking position to kind of

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offset some of those
shortcomings.

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Now, I think if you had Devon
Diablo and Kiante Jenkins in the

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game, I think some of that gets
cleaned up on the back end but I

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Think we're in till we kind of
get better Personnel on the

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defensive tackle area that can
kind of occupy space and not get

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moved out of the Gap like
because it's definitely a it

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trickles kind of up to the
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I think our defensive tackles
did a good job of shooting the

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gaps.
The problem with that is that

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with the way they're running the
RPO and how efficient they were,

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they were getting rid of the
ball, so shooting the gaps

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didn't really benefit us in the
the pass Rush game.

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And because of what they were,
they were getting so much

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movement with the on the
defensive tackles.

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So I think guards were getting
down blocks, and they were just

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moving those defensive tackles
out of the Gap.

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So even though they were in the
right place, the Gap was getting

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mu.
That means the holes getting

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wider something into.
Guys, I love Matheny because the

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guy plays with hard, he tries
his hardest but he still a third

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string.
Walk on, let me ask you this,

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I'm going to move this up.
Up a couple rungs on our

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rundown.
How many, how many points do you

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think have in kyanka, and Deedee
would have made a day?

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How many points walked by 11:00,
would it have been just two or

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three?
I think they say would touch

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down because there's a couple
places where I think Diablo

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would have been in there.
Making the tackle Matheny,

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missed a couple at the.
I think a couple he was late

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getting his film which meant
that the running back could

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stick it.
Of the dirt, widen his angle and

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get to the sideline instead of
having to getting getting met

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kind of right in the hole that,
you know, we're dividing or

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Jenkins would have filled their.
So there's definitely areas

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where we would have got been
better with those guys in the

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game.
But at the same time it would

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have been.
We distill given up a lot of

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points because it was kind of a
weird have been dealing more

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with a death by a Thousand Cuts
than You know some of those big

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cashing runs and ended up going
for touchdowns are going for 30,

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40 yard gains.
All right.

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Well I hear that that that makes
me think different because when

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you're not gassing, the more
plays a team has to run the more

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chance that areas, the more
chance that incompletions the

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more chance.
It good things happening for the

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Hokies.
So now let me let me ask this

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next tomorrow Connor gets hit
with the targeting objection so

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we won't listen next week, thank
goodness.

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But how big did that hurt us?
Especially in the running it

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because it was very early, it
was very early in the first

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quarter.
It was one of those.

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This is where I think you feel
Collegiate needs to adjust

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because how was up, when
essentially Shamari was coming,

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and then with where, how went
how tomorrow his head was, he

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gets injected how much of not
having him?

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Do you think affected the Run
game throughout the day?

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It definitely hurting the Run
game especially as the game wore

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on.
I mean, we were Already thin at

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those positions coming in
because of the two big guys

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being out.
And you know, some of the other

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guys that we had at that play
quarterback, you know, not being

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in.
So, we were already thin there

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and we got obviously thinner
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Connor went went out with the
ejection there and that would

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have helped in the Run game
honestly, and they were good in

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the Run game before he left, but
they were actually taking more

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advantage of Connor in the past
game.

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When he was still in the game
and I think we ended up getting

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a little better at that because
we ended up.

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I think as the game wore on we
actually move water into nickel

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and let him kind of run run that
and I think that shirt that

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short up some of the things they
were doing in the past game but

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we just kept getting gashed in
the Run game and Connor would

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have definitely made a
difference there.

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I'd like I said, I don't know if
some of that yardage would have

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ended up being kind of short
passing, you know, more that our

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Oh, stuff, where they were going
to some quick outs and things

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like that, that they were taking
advantage of early on in the

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first half, but, you know, it's
really hard to say but it

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definitely hurt from a run game
perspective, no, doubt Italy.

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And I mean, when you look at the
Run game, it was nine point

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three yards per carry.
I mean, your to give up that

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much and to fight back the way
the team fought back to lose by

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11:00.
It's Ana Testament.

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You know, we're going to
probably as we get into this.

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We're probably gonna To torch
the coaching staff a little bit

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because it's on them.
But the guys never quit like

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this.
This is the question because I

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made a note here as you were
talking about it.

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You mentioned Brooke didn't have
his best, Tisdale was good and

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bad.
You mentioned Dax was horrible.

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What should back Molly Fields
role on this team?

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Be, he needs to be a guy that's
coming into spell Tisdale or

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row.
He doesn't need to be a

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Frontline guy anymore.
I think we've seen everything

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that Dax is going to give us at
this point and I think we've

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kind of seen that for a while,
man.

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I mean he's he's kind of piqued.
He picked her early and I think

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people kind of expected more of
a steady upward trajectory.

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Curry with his game and we just
haven't seen that.

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We've seen more or less the same
player we saw in 2018, just with

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a little more leadership skills
that he's been playing out of

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position and Backer instead of
the mic.

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You think that's had heard his
progression that they're asking

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him to do things to me.
He can't do.

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But when you only have a couple
options there, you've got to do

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it.
I think if we would have been

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smart, we would have went ahead
and said, once Tisdale came on

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and played the way he did, the
back half, say Dax you're inside

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your Mike, you're going to
backup Rook.

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You're going to come in and
we'll maybe put you out there on

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the outside in certain
situations or for playing a

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team.
That's very, very much, a kind

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of between the tackles
traditional, run style, not this

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RPO and read option because he
does, he does pretty good when

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You kind of get a good read and
get down hill and make a play.

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But when he has to think it
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of position a lot in the game
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When he was in position he was
missing tackles when he was in

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position to potentially make a
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even dad's Newsom.
Like come on man.

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He pounds Dex is six foot three
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He should not be getting even,
great technique not be getting

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blocked.
If you tell me that, you know,

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he he stopped the momentum.
Yeah, that that means that

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Newsom is working on his, you
know, blocking skills, you're

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telling me.
He's just wiping them out.

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And tells me somebody's
essentially, not listening and

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understanding leverage and what
he needs to do to get to the

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right point.
Yeah, but it was just, it was

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ugly across the board.
I think, I mean, obviously we're

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going to talk about coaching a
little bit here and I mean, it's

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so difficult to determine how
much of this is coaching and

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calling, and how much is Just
Really bad matchups against what

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they were doing on offense, man.
And I mean, I think it's a

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little bit of both.
I think there were some issues

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with preparation for this team.
I think we had some execution

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flaws.
I think we were mismatched from

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a athleticism perspective,
especially with the linebackers

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against what they were doing in
the inside, Run game.

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Well, but I think also a few
calls, put our guys in some bad

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spots. and, You know, we got
been a couple times with some

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Depot's where we had guys on an
island.

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Yeah, let's get the beat balls
in the passing because clearly

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the running game, they let us up
or you know 390 + yd.

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That's why I said triple,
they're not like triple, but two

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and a half times what they
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You know how today?
I mean he was efficient, he it's

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what you want to do.
If you're running like that, you

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want to have the foul line of
18. 23, 257 three touchdowns.

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His two big weapons had great
days.

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Diana, me Brown 3486 with two
touches desk, killed us

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essentially, 74 69, and a
touchdown still.

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Don't know why we offered that
didn't offer.

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That kid had his brother.
Obviously, Myron, play here in

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the 90s and then Williams
continued to kill on the ground

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game, with 55 yards in the bath,
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good, really good in the Run
game solid in the past Pro game.

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The only allowed one back, but
Brian me and you talked about it

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and I kind of early in the game,
they didn't have to drop five to

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seven.
It was quick.

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It was threes, it was getting
rid of the ball quick.

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I mean, we don't have to don't
have to drop back the offensive

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line, as you kind of said to me,
is your responsibilities goes by

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half?
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And the big thing I saw was
that, you know, because of the

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success they were having On The
Run game, they were able to just

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you know, fake The Zone read and
then just stand in the pocket

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right there.
You know, four yards deep in the

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in the backfield and wait for
some of those guys to get about

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20, 25 yards downfield and then
he was chucking it.

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And you know, couple times they
they set up the the formation

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where we were in a bad car.
All we had.

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The one that went deep to to
Brown in the first quarter, they

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had to to the top of the screen
and brown on the bottom.

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And we were in in quarters with
with Chapman, having half the

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field, they're against against
Brown.

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And you know what?
Essentially became a quasi

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one-on-one matchup there because
of everything that was going on

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to the other side of the field.
That Browns, the only person On

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that side of the formation.
And you know what?

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I didn't like about Chapman's
technique, there is that he gave

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up ground very quick to wear
brown, got to dictate terms of

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that route and as soon as soon
as you do that, you know, Brown

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all he had to do is give them a
little shoulder fake.

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And a little, bit of reaction
was enough to get him about four

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or five yards or space where he
got open deep and, you know,

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great ball by house is right on
the money.

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And, you know, Chapman tried to
recover their but unfortunately,

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that ended up with the big
TouchDown for than the gave them

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Twenty One, nothing lead.
Yeah.

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And we talked about the
downfield numbers in the preview

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show that will Sam house.
First are yard pass over 20

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yards, all year.
All year so Ron make sure I

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heard you right on this.
Imani Chapman.

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That was a zone.
That wasn't a man, because to

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me, it looked like he was in,
man, because of the way he bit

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down, when he made that much
shoulder turn, like you was

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gonna go on an out route, and
then cut back up on him.

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So if you look back at it, it's
quarters coverage.

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So you had Walker was playing on
the the far hash you had Matheny

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playing on the numbers, far
numbers, he took Newsom up the

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sideline on the flight.
So it was essentially twin fly

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routes and then they sent the
tight end I believe was up the

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seam or was it Was it.
What's his name?

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There's one of the other guys to
the high side, there went up the

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seam.
So you had two guys running up

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on the outside the other hash.
And then you had essentially

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became a Defector 101 even
though Armani Chapman was

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supposed to be in essentially,
half filled in that quarters

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coverage.
He's playing the back half of

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the, the left side of the
formation and I ask you a

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question.
Yep.

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If Mommy continues to back
pedal, does that become a

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touchdown?
Because the way you're saying is

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he saw him make that move, and
he essentially just bit down

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versus saying no, you're in
quarters, almost hits.

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He gave up his cushion, too fast
with him having that deep deep a

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half responsibility.
Okay, that, there we go.

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There we go.
So he's like a cushion here.

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It became like A man
responsibility that point he

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did, he did he wasn't driving on
the ball, he was running with

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brown served at that point.
Brown was dictating the terms of

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what was going on there.
Instead of Chabot, if he kept

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his cushion, he could have kind
of read and react.

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So essentially, because of what
brown did, he flipped it from a

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Zone to a man coverage?
Yeah, because he because of how

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much he got rid of the cushion
right at the beginning of the

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rout.
Okay.

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Okay.
I feel like the other 12 was

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also a man beater.
I'm not sure but either way it

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just you know, they hit two big
ones today, they hadn't hit any

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all year.
They hit two big ones for

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touchdowns today and They also
maintain their efficiency in the

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Red Zone.
Run, if you take out the kneel

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down, they were essentially
perfect in the red zone.

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And you're not going to be the
team that is perfect in the red

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zone and gets several deep ball
touchdowns.

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It's almost like the perfect
storm happen for this defense

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today where we had felt good.
The first couple weeks.

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We didn't feel great.
We didn't feel 2005-2006 defense

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but we felt like they were
tackling solid.

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Not great, but they were getting
their game.

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Tackling they were playing good
in coverage with some of those

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zones they were staying in their
Zone.

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They weren't as you talked about
Armani giving up their cushion

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is like they didn't trust
themselves today.

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It's like they started getting
beat defensively and it was just

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like, The overthinking.
The, let me do this, not that.

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In against the team with the
talent of Carolina, gas is

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talented yami's, talented there
to back since a more talent that

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they have a, don't have a great
offensive line, but they have a

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solid offensive line.
That everything that could go

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wrong.
Did go wrong.

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Yeah and because of this their
success in the Run game that

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offensive line never really got
pushed from the pass rush like

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Were quick getting rid of the
ball and when they did take

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shots, I took shots from
play-action.

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So guys were playing less
aggressive going after the

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quarterback and they and we
didn't get them in a lot of

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third and long situations,
where, you know, it was an

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obvious past situation so that
that put us in a spot where we

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couldn't just pin our ears back
and go after how.

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Yeah, so, really bad debut for
ham, I don't think this is

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indicative of the kind of
defensive coordinator.

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He is especially today.
You know, having Divine out,

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having Chianti out having Brian
Murray out.

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Having Tyree out losing tomorrow
early in the game.

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Essentially, you lose so much
depth at essentially, what I

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will call the safety positions,
you know, it just it wasn't good

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but I'll say something to Kudos
on the coaching staff.

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To get down by 21 then 25.
The team never quit.

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And maybe the switch at halftime
help when we went to Hendon.

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But Ron anything else on the
Virginia Tech defense if I

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before we flipped and look at
the offensive side.

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But we've got some things we
gotta look at there because we

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did score 45 points today, 31 in
the second half.

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Yeah, I mean, I'm good on
defense.

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Are I will say like it, like you
said, you know, rough start for

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J Hamm.
I want to see See some

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improvement on some of the areas
we just talked about man,

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especially with with regard to
the linebackers.

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Hopefully getting those safeties
back on the field, Diablo and

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Jenkins is going to in
particular, is going to be a big

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help in the Run game because we
definitely need it.

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I know I was talking with you a
little bit about kind of what

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we're doing on the defense of
wine.

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Now, and how what, linebackers,
and safety responsibilities in

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the Run game?
How much more of that matters

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now?
Yeah, and I made the comparison

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of the Colts team that won the
Super Bowl with Peyton Manning

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and how that run defense when
Bob Sanders was was injured and

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not playing for pretty much that
whole season was absolutely

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garbage.
But he comes back late in the

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the regular season and then in
the playoffs you know it goes

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from a bottom, three in the
league Rush defense to one that

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only gave up I think one 100
yard rusher in the playoffs and

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that was only just so, you know,
the safety play with with the

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way we're playing defense.
Now in the Run, game is very

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important.
So not having both of those

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starters in the game is
significant again.

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I don't think we were going to
hold them under 30 with them in

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the game but I think we might be
a, you know, a touchdown better

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and that might have been just
enough to give us a shot there

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at the end.
All right, so let's jump over to

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the offense.
Now, first of all, Brian I

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started marking short side runs
and in those first drives we had

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540 matter.
I'm losing my mind again on

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that.
Probably, I hope you are the

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same way.
But the first three series with

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Braxton early, part of the game,
basically, they were doing the

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most basic plays.
That we had ran the first two

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games.
Yes.

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And dude it look like UNC was
absolutely prepared in getting

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to this pot and flying and make
them a swamp and being the

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offensive lineman and I sit here
and I'm like, what the hell are

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we doing your literally show?
Giving them everything that we

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have shown on tape there?
Yeah, it was it was sad to see

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how early on we went way
vanilla.

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Play calls, we didn't lean on
juice in the Run game.

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We he had one carrying the first
quarter and three in the first

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half like you know, I get that.
You know, you want to start

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getting some positive movement
on offense before you start

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just, you know, feeding the man.
But at the same time, you need

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to lean on your strength.
And we've seen the strength of

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this defense.
This offense is running the

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football with Khalil Herbert and
if we you know, I get what

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you're saying with the vanilla
play calls and I think we should

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have definitely mixed up how we
were getting the ball to him,

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but the fact that we didn't get
it to him is a travesty An

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absolute travesty because, you
know, he would end up wanting

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up, even with that little of
carries in the first half, he

447
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,200
still had 138 yards.
He still had two touchdowns.

448
00:29:08,500 --> 00:29:10,900
He still had seven point seven
yards.

449
00:29:10,900 --> 00:29:15,100
A carry with those those just
having three in the first half.

450
00:29:15,300 --> 00:29:18,700
So it, again, it just kind of
tells you, it's like, you know,

451
00:29:19,500 --> 00:29:23,800
it's okay to do things you do,
but you guys figure out

452
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,400
different ways to kind of get
him in.

453
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:31,100
All be intelligent about that in
for you know after those three

454
00:29:31,100 --> 00:29:35,200
series they bring him in for a
series he goes 3 and out.

455
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:36,700
I don't think that shock to
anybody.

456
00:29:36,700 --> 00:29:41,600
They again, very vanilla, very
blase, nothing special, but

457
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:46,900
finally, we're down 21-nothing,
we finally start mixing up the

458
00:29:46,900 --> 00:29:51,100
play calls and lo and behold.
Two touchdowns in three

459
00:29:51,100 --> 00:29:54,300
possessions.
We cut it to a one score game,

460
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,400
anything specifically on those
drives, other than mixing it up

461
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,300
a little bit, you know, mixed it
up.

462
00:30:02,500 --> 00:30:07,400
And honestly on the first
touchdown drive, just a hell of

463
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,500
an individual effort by Trey
Turner kind of taking that

464
00:30:12,100 --> 00:30:16,800
little r out there and working
inside and then coming back

465
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,900
outside and getting up the
sideline for a really big gain I

466
00:30:19,908 --> 00:30:23,400
mean it was it was one of those.
Give me your ankles type

467
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,000
situations with the safety
there.

468
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,800
Yeah, he gave him the little
okey-doke and then went outside

469
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,500
and all of a sudden he was up
the sideline.

470
00:30:30,500 --> 00:30:33,300
I was like, what?
50 yard game on that one.

471
00:30:33,300 --> 00:30:40,000
Play I want to say, maybe 55.
Look, here on the first one real

472
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,100
live here.
I think we touched on this

473
00:30:42,100 --> 00:30:49,400
earlier, but I missed did 3636.
Okay, inflated.

474
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:53,600
The play.
It felt like a 55 Yard game to

475
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,700
us because of how porous
everything had been.

476
00:30:55,800 --> 00:31:10,800
And to that point so
we went from we went from just

477
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:17,500
our side of Midfield Red Zone
and a few plays later, you know,

478
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:22,700
we run we run and then we'd run
the little jet swimming to James

479
00:31:22,700 --> 00:31:25,700
Mitchell from the like one or
two yard line.

480
00:31:26,100 --> 00:31:28,700
The most Unstoppable playing
Collegiate football, I don't

481
00:31:28,700 --> 00:31:37,600
know how but it is go up 21-7,
and then 445 running those jet

482
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,500
sweeps to him at the goal line,
man.

483
00:31:39,900 --> 00:31:43,000
It is one of the more impressive
things of all times and then

484
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,100
defense steps up gets a three
and out.

485
00:31:45,100 --> 00:31:49,300
But we then we have a three and
out but defense holds again and

486
00:31:49,300 --> 00:31:54,400
gets a three and out and then
another big play drive and this

487
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:59,500
one brine I know.
No was again a couple Cleo

488
00:31:59,500 --> 00:32:03,400
Herbert with a big run Turner
with the catch and then Herbert

489
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,900
punches it in and your Sydney.
And it's like wow after that

490
00:32:07,900 --> 00:32:10,300
first quarter.
Holy shit.

491
00:32:10,300 --> 00:32:14,100
We're down 2114.
Yeah, that Herbert touchdown was

492
00:32:14,100 --> 00:32:20,300
impressive because he got
outside and then he waited for

493
00:32:20,300 --> 00:32:24,000
the safety to come up, all your
Venture said.

494
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,200
All right, I'm going outside got
to the Ed's got up the sideline

495
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,100
scampered In The End Zone, his
vision and patience on that run.

496
00:32:31,100 --> 00:32:33,100
I've got jotted that down on
that run.

497
00:32:33,100 --> 00:32:35,900
It's like, you don't see guys do
that.

498
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:40,500
He literally set it up.
Waited found it when also props

499
00:32:40,500 --> 00:32:43,600
to James Mitchell for getting a
big ass pancake at the end of

500
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:49,100
that to your, you texted me and
my buddy, Mike texting me, like

501
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,700
give James Mitchell.
All the credit in the world for

502
00:32:51,700 --> 00:32:54,700
that touchdown run.
He crushed that guy.

503
00:32:54,700 --> 00:32:56,700
Absolutely.
All right.

504
00:32:56,700 --> 00:32:59,900
Well defense again all day it
happened.

505
00:32:59,900 --> 00:33:02,200
They have a couple good series
and then they give up another

506
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,400
touchdown.
They go back upstairs scores but

507
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,700
you know, hey, we proved we can
go squirrel these guys now.

508
00:33:10,100 --> 00:33:12,400
Yep.
Yep. 2014.

509
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:16,600
It's getting ground near the end
of the half and we're driving

510
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,800
you know got a good drive going.
We get to the UNC 43.

511
00:33:22,900 --> 00:33:27,300
Brian its third and fourth at
the UNC 43.

512
00:33:27,700 --> 00:33:30,700
You're clearly down, two
touchdowns you are out of Brian

513
00:33:30,700 --> 00:33:34,800
Johnson's Ranger so we think
about he did later was pretty

514
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,500
impressive.
What what do you expect?

515
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,800
If you're the offensive play?
Colin Braun what, what is your

516
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,200
call?
Their third and four 43-yard

517
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,200
line, your you probably into
down territory, what's your play

518
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,400
call there?
Run.

519
00:33:50,900 --> 00:33:53,800
Any specific Grand anything, you
would have liked to sing.

520
00:33:55,000 --> 00:34:00,200
I would like to seem probably
outside Zone to the wide side to

521
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,400
Khalil Herbert.
You said, well, I had to piss me

522
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:08,199
off.
No, Brian Brad.

523
00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:11,600
Cornelison looks at the Excel
spreadsheet and runs.

524
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:17,800
A booking short side screen to
Tavian Robinson and we get one

525
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:23,500
yard.
You know what I would have been

526
00:34:23,500 --> 00:34:25,500
okay?
If it was like a tunnel screen

527
00:34:25,500 --> 00:34:28,900
because at least he's moving
towards the quarterback and can

528
00:34:28,900 --> 00:34:32,000
kind of roll up feed where you
feel like his momentum and it

529
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,900
was just like a quick spot
screen outside where he has no

530
00:34:35,900 --> 00:34:39,100
forward momentum.
When he catches the ball, like

531
00:34:39,100 --> 00:34:42,100
he can't even fall forward for
like two or three yards.

532
00:34:43,199 --> 00:34:53,400
It's just like once again, I'll
ask you.

533
00:34:53,408 --> 00:35:00,600
It's 4th and 38 to 42 of the UNC
What what's your play call here?

534
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,900
Is is white and still on the
field.

535
00:35:03,900 --> 00:35:07,700
And fourth and three but you
you're driving.

536
00:35:07,700 --> 00:35:09,400
You're showing you can score on
this team.

537
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,600
I mean I like the play call to
go for it.

538
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:16,100
I don't like the call that was
called throwing a quick slant

539
00:35:16,100 --> 00:35:19,500
from the slot position into
double coverage.

540
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,400
I don't like that.
What I would have liked to seen

541
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:26,100
is that if you're going to throw
the ball in that situation, you

542
00:35:26,100 --> 00:35:30,500
either kind of do one of those
fake one way and kind of

543
00:35:30,500 --> 00:35:36,100
throwback to your tight end.
We're honestly lean on your

544
00:35:36,100 --> 00:35:41,500
strength and just run zone out
of rather.

545
00:35:41,500 --> 00:35:44,400
Seen you run Zone on Fourth and
three than what than the play

546
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:45,700
call.
We ended up going with.

547
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,100
Yeah.
And I think for me and you we

548
00:35:48,100 --> 00:35:50,700
hate it because we know the
strength of this team is our

549
00:35:50,700 --> 00:35:54,100
line.
It's like yeah I'll for you and

550
00:35:54,100 --> 00:35:57,600
it's all running backs you know
you know Bryson and have the

551
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:01,800
best day and essentially you
know, Braxton's time to starter

552
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:06,000
is over, but you Feeling that
situation run him in some way.

553
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:10,600
Let us use our strengths.
Yeah and I don't think Braxton

554
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:15,500
played a bad game.
I think he played considering

555
00:36:15,900 --> 00:36:21,600
his strengths and weaknesses
probably A B+ game for him

556
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:26,000
against that defense, but I
don't think we needed a lot more

557
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,500
than that to win the game,
especially the way they were

558
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:34,300
humming on offense.
And that's that's the long and

559
00:36:34,300 --> 00:36:36,500
short of it, man.
But again, like on that fourth

560
00:36:36,500 --> 00:36:38,600
alcohol.
Like, why not do something where

561
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:43,300
your lease may be moving the
pocket so you know, if the route

562
00:36:43,300 --> 00:36:46,900
isn't there Braxton has a chance
to take off and maybe get it

563
00:36:46,900 --> 00:36:49,400
with his legs but you know, you
kind of you.

564
00:36:49,500 --> 00:36:51,800
You're throwing the slant and I
mean there's not really a whole

565
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:56,600
lot, he's not moving off that
unless for whatever reason the,

566
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:01,400
you know, the Seas part and he
can, you know, run right up the

567
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:06,200
gut or something.
But you took away the option for

568
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,500
him to even use his best ability
on that fourth down.

569
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:15,300
Absolutely now, so again
Carolina gets the ball.

570
00:37:15,300 --> 00:37:17,400
It's and they hit their second
big play.

571
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,400
We're down, 3514 going into
half.

572
00:37:20,300 --> 00:37:24,400
I am second half, I don't think
to anyone surprised him and

573
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:29,700
comes out as the starter.
And this is the honest truth.

574
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,000
Hidden hooker is our qb1 me, no
doubt.

575
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:39,800
If you show as that, I think it
showed in that first half that

576
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,100
you were missing the elements of
the passing game that if they

577
00:37:42,100 --> 00:37:49,400
were there, maybe were maybe
3521, 3524, go.

578
00:37:49,500 --> 00:37:52,200
One and a half time.
We can we can get on that.

579
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:56,400
Yep these are one now as we come
out in the second half the early

580
00:37:56,500 --> 00:38:01,700
play calls, just very vanilla.
Then we got a first down and

581
00:38:01,700 --> 00:38:07,800
then it where it took three
plays for the offense, to start

582
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,100
mixing up the calls of rack
3-Series, excuse me, it took a

583
00:38:11,107 --> 00:38:15,700
couple plays within them and
they start mixing it up and then

584
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,800
an absolute perfect.
I'll Credit in the world to

585
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:23,000
cornelison play called to Trey
Turner for a touchdown that was

586
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,200
unfortunately.
Nullified by has an illegal

587
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,500
motion, any wasn't set, which
just sucks because it was

588
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,300
Perfect.
Play right into his own on the

589
00:38:33,300 --> 00:38:34,800
inside.
Almost using middle of the field

590
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,600
is the same in and puts it on
the money.

591
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,400
Triton.
Stop running touchdown.

592
00:38:39,500 --> 00:38:43,500
Fortunately, it comes back now,
very fortunate.

593
00:38:43,500 --> 00:38:47,400
We have a kicker.
Now we can trust and you saw

594
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:51,300
that kick because you were at
the brown fortunate.

595
00:38:51,300 --> 00:38:53,800
I was stopped and a son to a
birthday party for a while, so

596
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,600
he was having to pay attention
to a seven-year-old at a

597
00:38:57,607 --> 00:38:59,600
birthday party.
Trying to keep an eye on the

598
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,300
game.
Text me some stuff.

599
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:06,000
You saw that play about what?
20 minutes to go right?

600
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,800
Before we started recording
Jesus.

601
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:12,100
What A kick.
Yeah, they were holding it on

602
00:39:12,100 --> 00:39:18,000
the UNC logo.
Well, yeah, 55 yarder.

603
00:39:18,700 --> 00:39:25,500
And it gets us to within 18, but
just looking at that that kind

604
00:39:25,500 --> 00:39:28,100
of play and then kind of
everything that would happen

605
00:39:28,100 --> 00:39:35,200
from here on out hidden had some
good runs and Brian having him

606
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,900
in there.
The offense is so much more

607
00:39:37,900 --> 00:39:39,700
dynamic.
Yep.

608
00:39:41,100 --> 00:39:42,900
And it is and let's just talk
about it.

609
00:39:42,900 --> 00:39:46,200
I mean you showed up on the damn
scoreboard and so did 31 points,

610
00:39:48,300 --> 00:39:52,700
31 31 points in the second half.
So it's this is not just, you

611
00:39:52,700 --> 00:39:56,500
know, I test like it's fucking,
you know we've got the data

612
00:39:56,500 --> 00:40:02,900
there too.
May we got, we got 31 points,

613
00:40:03,700 --> 00:40:05,700
double the yardage in the second
half.

614
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:11,000
Big runs by Herbert opened up.
We finally started giving the

615
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,800
ball to Herbert.
What was this?

616
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:21,100
Final final total number number
again, 138:2 touchdown. 7.7 a

617
00:40:21,100 --> 00:40:26,500
carry, how many carries At 7.7
like 18.

618
00:40:26,900 --> 00:40:30,300
Okay 15 minutes second half so
15 in the second half.

619
00:40:30,300 --> 00:40:36,000
Yeah, which out of out expected
at least 12 per half.

620
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,300
So the fact that, you know, I
thought he was going to be

621
00:40:39,300 --> 00:40:41,800
between 20 and 25 carries for
the game.

622
00:40:42,500 --> 00:40:47,400
Yeah, and we were under that and
we were under that because we

623
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,200
underutilized him in the first
half.

624
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,000
Yep.
I think I just thought I don't

625
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,900
get how we didn't lean on our
strengths.

626
00:40:54,100 --> 00:40:57,800
In the first half, especially
when again, we were having some

627
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,100
limitations in the passing game,
it's 100% man.

628
00:41:01,300 --> 00:41:04,000
And I talked about the hooker
on, he runs the set and the

629
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,100
first touchdown in the second.
Half in, after hitting a

630
00:41:06,100 --> 00:41:10,700
freaking 50-plus, you order to
Big Stone Gap and right there

631
00:41:11,500 --> 00:41:16,300
because the next series was the
big juice run in me and you

632
00:41:16,300 --> 00:41:20,300
talked about it and we've
mentioned it before UNC when he

633
00:41:20,300 --> 00:41:24,500
got in there.
They couldn't just In.

634
00:41:24,500 --> 00:41:30,300
Go to a spot they actually had
to thank and dissect mortal van

635
00:41:30,300 --> 00:41:35,400
dissect, the more we scored and
you know Brian as we get into

636
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:40,700
deeper into the third quarter
you know the defense you know

637
00:41:41,100 --> 00:41:44,100
continues to hold pretty good
because now they're getting some

638
00:41:44,100 --> 00:41:47,900
time off the field.
They hold to a three and out you

639
00:41:47,900 --> 00:41:52,400
know and you know, UNC gets the
lead back to 12 and then we

640
00:41:52,400 --> 00:42:01,000
finally Get there.
Get it within four on explain

641
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,900
that route where Tavian Robinson
called us touchdown, because I

642
00:42:04,900 --> 00:42:08,300
loved it.
They showed it a great angle but

643
00:42:08,900 --> 00:42:10,300
tell me what those guys are
thinking.

644
00:42:10,300 --> 00:42:11,600
Yep.
And then there's the runner you

645
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,800
have juice and juice just broke
a big one.

646
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:18,200
They've hit Big Stone Gap, tell
me what that defense is thinking

647
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:19,700
on that touchdown play to take
me on.

648
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:27,100
So tree ran a wheel and and
trade took two guys up the

649
00:42:27,100 --> 00:42:32,100
sideline with him on the wheel
and what that left was Tavian

650
00:42:32,100 --> 00:42:37,800
essentially running a route kind
of in right up the hash and they

651
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,900
hit him there and all he had to
do was make a move on the

652
00:42:39,900 --> 00:42:41,500
safety.
The safety was the only person

653
00:42:41,500 --> 00:42:45,600
there safety still had an eye on
what Trey Turner was doing.

654
00:42:46,700 --> 00:42:49,700
He put a little okey-doke on him
and then ran right right between

655
00:42:49,700 --> 00:42:51,900
the Cash, is there for the
touchdown?

656
00:42:52,700 --> 00:42:54,600
I mean, it was a really good
play call, man.

657
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,700
It was a really good play call.
And the way they set it up, they

658
00:42:57,700 --> 00:43:00,000
definitely bad both of their
eyes on the wheel because we've

659
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,100
thrown the wheel a couple times
at this point.

660
00:43:03,300 --> 00:43:07,100
And then, you know, kind of work
that route underneath and you

661
00:43:07,100 --> 00:43:09,500
know, Tavian Robinson had a lot
of room to work and when he's

662
00:43:09,500 --> 00:43:12,200
got room to work he can make
guys miss and just get up.

663
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,500
Feel for the touchdown.
Yes, you can.

664
00:43:16,300 --> 00:43:20,000
But, you know, obviously the
defensive struggle continued,

665
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:24,000
after we cut it to five the
defense pretty quickly, gave it

666
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:30,400
back, we go back up to 12.
Then we have The just the one

667
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:35,300
that irritated the crap out of a
lot of folks, you included me

668
00:43:35,300 --> 00:43:40,600
included, we get the ball juice.
Herbert 11 yards out, here we go

669
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:41,900
again.
We're going to cut it right back

670
00:43:41,900 --> 00:43:44,900
down.
After an 11-yard gain.

671
00:43:45,100 --> 00:43:53,000
We choose to pass the ball on
three consecutive plays and I'm

672
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:57,900
trying to figure that out.
Because it makes no sense.

673
00:43:57,900 --> 00:44:00,500
And then takes a sack on third
down and 10.

674
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:05,200
We have to punt.
Let's just not run at all.

675
00:44:05,700 --> 00:44:09,400
He just got 11 yards.
That's just completely ignore

676
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,700
The motor a little team, the
thing to keep the team going,

677
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:19,600
and this is where the Excel
spreadsheet needs to be tossed

678
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:23,600
out, and potentially the person
up in the booth colonies plays,

679
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:25,600
this is where you get to that
point.

680
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,600
I'm holding the neck like this
brown, like maybe he needs to go

681
00:44:28,900 --> 00:44:33,900
because it's so inconsistent.
And at that point right there,

682
00:44:35,300 --> 00:44:37,200
you know, you can store them.
Yep.

683
00:44:56,900 --> 00:45:04,800
To a lot of things and he does
but he is so inconsistent and

684
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,800
Sometimes either under thinks or
overthinks the situation.

685
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:14,300
Not just when it happens it's
definitely more of like when

686
00:45:14,300 --> 00:45:18,500
it's the flow of the game, like
that was a key drive like we

687
00:45:18,500 --> 00:45:22,400
needed that to get points.
It wasn't like, you know, I mean

688
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,500
sometimes you know there's
drives where okay, well, you

689
00:45:25,500 --> 00:45:28,600
don't feel bad about a three and
out are you don't feel bad about

690
00:45:28,700 --> 00:45:31,500
you know, trying to do something
different and it didn't work and

691
00:45:31,508 --> 00:45:33,700
he had a punt.
Sometimes, there's those

692
00:45:33,700 --> 00:45:37,100
scenarios and you're like, okay
well he was trying something

693
00:45:37,100 --> 00:45:40,300
different, it didn't work but
that's something You do when

694
00:45:40,300 --> 00:45:44,000
you're not in these crunch-time
moments, it's not something you

695
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:48,700
don't get cute.
When things are humming for you

696
00:45:48,700 --> 00:45:50,700
and you all of a sudden, you try
to do something different just

697
00:45:50,700 --> 00:45:54,200
to shake things up.
Like the running game is going.

698
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,800
The misdirection game is going
both in the passing game in the

699
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:00,200
running game.
You know, go back to the well

700
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,100
until they can stop it.
Yep.

701
00:46:04,100 --> 00:46:10,200
But they don't that happens.
We punt UNC get this again to go

702
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:16,000
up 56-37.
We're down 19 and you know it's

703
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:20,700
about nine minutes left in the
game and all hopes.

704
00:46:20,700 --> 00:46:23,700
Not lost because you take a look
at how we scored the third

705
00:46:23,700 --> 00:46:26,900
quarter, one in a minute and 18,
s 1.

706
00:46:26,900 --> 00:46:30,500
Then under a minute.
If I cool, this is fine, let's

707
00:46:30,500 --> 00:46:32,300
go.
We've got to go score.

708
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:37,700
You know, let's mention real
quick, the brawn Johnson onside

709
00:46:37,700 --> 00:46:39,700
kick.
That was a thing of beauty, that

710
00:46:39,700 --> 00:46:44,500
swung the momentum in our favor.
And we not only one, the one up,

711
00:46:44,508 --> 00:46:47,100
the middle was pretty but the
one to the outside that they got

712
00:46:47,100 --> 00:46:51,400
later on, it was all so
beautiful, so give him his due

713
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,700
diligence, forgiveness credit.
But then so we get the ball,

714
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,500
nine minutes or so, left.
And Brian.

715
00:46:58,000 --> 00:46:59,500
I don't know if you didn't get
to see this.

716
00:46:59,500 --> 00:47:03,200
I don't think live the tempo of
that touchdown Drive.

717
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,400
I've felt so shitty.
Yep.

718
00:47:07,100 --> 00:47:09,900
It took three minutes and 23
seconds and I'm sitting here.

719
00:47:09,900 --> 00:47:13,000
It's like what are we doing?
We are down 19 points.

720
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,000
We know we can score fast on
them.

721
00:47:15,100 --> 00:47:20,800
We need to get our asses and go.
When once again, you just meant

722
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,600
to more flaws about bread
cornelison.

723
00:47:23,700 --> 00:47:26,100
There's another one right there.
It's like, no, this is when you

724
00:47:26,107 --> 00:47:28,500
need to go Temple, this is when
you need to take shots.

725
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:33,200
Basically that drive it, you
know, it says essentially each.

726
00:47:33,700 --> 00:47:37,700
Switch the drives.
Yeah, you did this on the

727
00:47:37,700 --> 00:47:40,200
previous drive and then, you
know, hurried up and was

728
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,800
chucking it on this drive you
might say, okay, well, at least

729
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:49,600
there's a rhyme and reason to it
but you know, he got too cute

730
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:53,900
and moving too fast and trying
to do too much on a drive where

731
00:47:53,900 --> 00:47:57,600
he just needed to simplify
things and keep rolling with

732
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,500
what's working.
And then once, you know, then

733
00:48:00,500 --> 00:48:03,400
when he's in a situation where
we need points, we have to get

734
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:04,600
points and how to get points
fast.

735
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,300
He's like, all right, we're
going to We're going to

736
00:48:07,300 --> 00:48:09,700
methodically drive.
This bad boy down the field and

737
00:48:09,700 --> 00:48:12,700
get a, get a touchdown, and a
two point conversion, no big

738
00:48:12,700 --> 00:48:15,700
deal.
Yeah, and here's the issue with

739
00:48:15,700 --> 00:48:17,300
that drive, and it's to your
point.

740
00:48:17,300 --> 00:48:19,600
Exactly.
Eight.

741
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,700
Play 77 yards.
Three minutes, 23 seconds.

742
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:29,200
We had five runs on that one.
Yes, we have the explosive,

743
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,200
guys, don't get me wrong.
But when you're down 19 with

744
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:36,600
nine minutes left, you need to
be pushing the ball and again,

745
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,000
It's just terrible situational
awareness.

746
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:44,100
Again this is where we can add
the onside kick, we don't get it

747
00:48:44,100 --> 00:48:47,900
but that last Drive even you
said it to me right before the

748
00:48:47,900 --> 00:48:50,400
game fight.
For we started there were

749
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,800
several opportunities for the
defense to stop them.

750
00:48:52,800 --> 00:49:00,800
We didn't and at the end of the
day, not enough stops and not

751
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,200
going to quarterback one quick
enough.

752
00:49:03,900 --> 00:49:07,400
Lost the game, 5645.
If we should have went to

753
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,200
quarterback one.
Snap one.

754
00:49:10,300 --> 00:49:14,800
Oh yes, that's what me and you
was that snap one should have

755
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,500
been qv1 hidden hooker.
Should have started the game.

756
00:49:18,300 --> 00:49:23,100
I'm going to put that on Coach
Fuente and coach cornelison for

757
00:49:23,100 --> 00:49:26,300
not getting the right guy to
start the game.

758
00:49:26,700 --> 00:49:31,600
I mean, at some point you got to
say regardless of preparation,

759
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,600
regardless of what the practice
is look like.

760
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:38,600
He's had enough time to react.
Himself, you know, he is your

761
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:42,800
best option at the position.
You don't play it.

762
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:47,200
Safe against a ranked opponent
in your conference that you're

763
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,700
likely going to have to beat in
order to play for a conference

764
00:49:50,700 --> 00:49:52,100
Championship.
Yeah.

765
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,300
Now we that's not to say that
our hopes of a conference

766
00:49:55,300 --> 00:50:00,200
Championship were out the door
because, you know, unc's play to

767
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:03,600
tie games against lesser ACC
competition to this point and

768
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,500
almost got nicked against Boston
College.

769
00:50:06,700 --> 00:50:09,900
So that's not to say they can't
drop two games and we're right

770
00:50:09,900 --> 00:50:11,700
back in the, in the driver's
seat.

771
00:50:11,700 --> 00:50:16,200
But right now, we didn't put our
best effort out there to start

772
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:21,500
the game and it came down to buy
this because if hendon's out

773
00:50:21,500 --> 00:50:23,800
there, this could have ended up
in a shootout versus having to

774
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:25,300
play catch-up the whole damn
game.

775
00:50:26,100 --> 00:50:29,200
That's where the bigger issue is
its we had it like catch up if

776
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,700
he's out there you feel from
Jump Street, they score opening

777
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:37,000
weeks for opening and that set
the tone for them also to Where

778
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,300
I don't think they get as
comfortable running the ball.

779
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,000
I think they got to become to
run of the ball because you're

780
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,900
up 21 nothing after the first
quarter.

781
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,500
Shit.
I mean, tell me in football

782
00:50:49,500 --> 00:50:51,300
coaching, this world that we're
up.

783
00:50:51,300 --> 00:50:52,400
We're going to run a little
more.

784
00:50:52,500 --> 00:50:55,700
If we continue to stay up, we're
going to keep running.

785
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,000
We kill clock.
We're getting cashiers.

786
00:51:00,100 --> 00:51:02,000
What do you work with you and
see dead against us?

787
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,500
Is that they found what was
working and they stuck with it.

788
00:51:07,100 --> 00:51:09,300
That's not talk about that
because there were certain

789
00:51:09,300 --> 00:51:12,900
things that were working for us
that we just decided to go away

790
00:51:12,900 --> 00:51:18,400
from run and you know as we
close in on 1 p.m. here Eastern

791
00:51:19,100 --> 00:51:26,300
Standard Time, watching
highlight shows we were on the

792
00:51:26,300 --> 00:51:33,500
BC.
Right into PCL pit today in

793
00:51:33,500 --> 00:51:42,000
overtime.
And, you know, You told me it's

794
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,900
6:00 because I told you it's six
o'clock and by that time, so

795
00:51:45,900 --> 00:51:48,300
it'll be three hours right?
At a little over three hours

796
00:51:48,300 --> 00:51:51,400
past the game.
I texted you and said I'm not as

797
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,700
mad with this loss.
He texted me back.

798
00:51:54,700 --> 00:51:58,000
You're like I'm still bleeping
man with his loss.

799
00:51:58,500 --> 00:52:02,500
Where are you a few hours later?
And looking at more tape, are

800
00:52:02,500 --> 00:52:07,500
you still as angry or is it?
Are you coming down to where?

801
00:52:07,500 --> 00:52:15,600
It's like, I'm not as mad.
But I'm very mad that we did not

802
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,900
have any hooker out there to
start the game, especially the

803
00:52:17,900 --> 00:52:23,500
way he played, when he was on
the field, I'm still mad that

804
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:26,600
our linebackers didn't play
better.

805
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:34,300
Because at some point, I mean,
The, the bad reads I will live

806
00:52:34,300 --> 00:52:37,100
with that because people are
going to get bad reads

807
00:52:37,100 --> 00:52:40,300
especially against a team that
does use some misdirection in

808
00:52:40,300 --> 00:52:42,100
the things with the RPO that
they do.

809
00:52:42,700 --> 00:52:45,800
I get that.
But they played timid and they

810
00:52:45,808 --> 00:52:48,900
didn't tackle well and that's
things that they can control.

811
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:53,900
So that's got to be better.
That's got to be better going

812
00:52:53,900 --> 00:52:56,300
forward.
And I mean, I'm hoping getting

813
00:52:56,300 --> 00:52:58,800
Didi and Jenkins back is going
to clean up a little bit of that

814
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:00,900
run game stuff, so we'll see how
that goes.

815
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,300
Thankfully, we got a team coming
in that does not run the ball

816
00:53:04,300 --> 00:53:07,000
very well.
So I think we're going to have

817
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:10,900
some more success in that area
this week.

818
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:15,500
But with the way they sling, the
ball, a bunch of times.

819
00:53:15,500 --> 00:53:19,000
I would like to have the
safeties back as well for that.

820
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:23,200
Well, from everything.
We're Gathering divine's back.

821
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:27,400
Regardless, the vine actually,
Divine should probably be back

822
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,400
for a whole week of practice,
which is good.

823
00:53:29,700 --> 00:53:33,400
Yeah, if we cuz Me and you did
some counting earlier.

824
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:38,000
We said he could be back if he
was one of these tests, but he

825
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:39,400
won't.
He was in.

826
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,100
He was in the Friday set which
meant that he wasn't going to

827
00:53:42,100 --> 00:53:46,300
get even if it was - he wasn't
getting results back until after

828
00:53:46,300 --> 00:53:48,600
the team had already traveled.
Yeah.

829
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,500
So he's in the Friday set you
hope he's back because if he's

830
00:53:51,500 --> 00:53:54,100
back because it has been Friday,
Saturday Sunday, Monday,

831
00:53:54,100 --> 00:53:57,400
Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,
Friday, Saturday Sunday, his

832
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:01,400
tenth day will be tomorrow which
is not a practice daily.

833
00:54:01,500 --> 00:54:03,300
Luckily it's one of those
things, he can be on a zoom

834
00:54:03,300 --> 00:54:05,600
meeting with the guys and he's
back on the field.

835
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:13,300
Monday, practicing kyanka.
I want to say Kion toe was in

836
00:54:13,300 --> 00:54:17,000
the early set of testings.
I want to say it.

837
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,500
Sounded like she was the Monday,
he was in.

838
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:24,600
So he has a chance of being
cleared either Wednesday or

839
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,500
Friday, right?
So we think he's in the Monday

840
00:54:28,100 --> 00:54:30,900
if it that he's Wednesday.
No.

841
00:54:30,900 --> 00:54:36,200
He would be Wednesday or
Thursday if you middle, he's the

842
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:39,100
borderline.
Yep, we're borderline, appease

843
00:54:39,100 --> 00:54:43,100
their next Week.
Now, luckily for us it is a home

844
00:54:43,100 --> 00:54:44,800
game, right?
Yep.

845
00:54:45,100 --> 00:54:49,700
So no travel so he's not cleared
by the wind State St.

846
00:54:49,700 --> 00:54:52,700
To be clear about a Friday test.
We should at least be available

847
00:54:52,700 --> 00:54:54,600
even if he's not the guy that
you're rolling out there to

848
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,000
start the game because of
preparation.

849
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:02,000
So he's at least available.
My beer is empty.

850
00:55:02,500 --> 00:55:04,200
I think I'm not going to have
another one.

851
00:55:06,100 --> 00:55:09,200
It's one of your ear at the
moment of truth for you.

852
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,300
Got to decide.
Do I drink some more or do I

853
00:55:11,300 --> 00:55:14,100
just go to sleep?
Yeah, I need to go to sleep.

854
00:55:14,100 --> 00:55:16,900
The little one was up at like
six twenty this morning on a

855
00:55:16,908 --> 00:55:22,600
Saturday.
So I need ya freakin kid sleeps

856
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:26,500
till like 6:45 on the weekdays
and Saturday morning, he wants

857
00:55:26,500 --> 00:55:30,800
to wake up at 6:00 and it's, you
know, the unthinking boniest,

858
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:37,200
wake up exactly.
Um, have the case of turnout Do

859
00:55:37,300 --> 00:55:44,500
it was baller with the fundido
had some some chorizo Jalapeno

860
00:55:44,500 --> 00:55:52,700
in their little Rotel, got the
the Velveeta Blanco what else I

861
00:55:52,700 --> 00:55:56,400
have in there.
Some pepper, jack, some onion,

862
00:55:56,900 --> 00:56:00,100
and did you have get your wife
and child have any?

863
00:56:00,500 --> 00:56:05,500
Oh, yeah.
I mean honestly there's about

864
00:56:05,500 --> 00:56:10,600
half a pan left sitting in the I
put it in a container for

865
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:12,500
tomorrow.
So I've got some I've got some

866
00:56:12,500 --> 00:56:16,700
Game Day food for tomorrow, too.
So whatever I ended up doing

867
00:56:16,700 --> 00:56:19,500
some, you know, we had talked
about brisket, I actually ended

868
00:56:19,500 --> 00:56:23,000
up grabbing a boneless pork
button.

869
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:26,800
Did some carnitas so I had some
carnitas tacos with the case.

870
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:31,300
Oh dude, you turn baller
tonight, man.

871
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,700
Very nice.
Like I said, I eat my feelings.

872
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,600
You ain't your friend.
I said here, I ate a bagel for

873
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:42,200
breakfast and didn't eat
anything until I had gorditas

874
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:46,900
with me, Jalisco and some
shrimp, some chicken, and some

875
00:56:46,900 --> 00:56:50,200
steak on that bad boy, I gobbled
down.

876
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:52,500
My wife looked at me as I was
eating the second one.

877
00:56:52,500 --> 00:56:53,500
She's like, you can eat all of
it.

878
00:56:53,500 --> 00:56:57,300
I'm like, yeah, yeah, I've
committed a quick committed.

879
00:56:57,300 --> 00:57:03,200
Quit exactly scrolling through
Here at one am anything.

880
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:06,300
We've missed.
Nothing fun, man.

881
00:57:06,300 --> 00:57:13,400
Nothing fun, you know, the only
upside knock on wood is

882
00:57:13,700 --> 00:57:16,300
essentially.
Luke tenuta was out today, but I

883
00:57:16,300 --> 00:57:19,100
don't, I think that was probably
something else.

884
00:57:19,100 --> 00:57:21,800
Just when you see only one
position, group guy, go down,

885
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:24,100
hopefully find out more this
week.

886
00:57:24,100 --> 00:57:27,800
Have it reported few guys on the
preview show but since there is

887
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:32,300
nothing else out there that is
going to wrap up this late night

888
00:57:32,300 --> 00:57:34,900
episode of The Boundary Corner
podcast.

889
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:37,400
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I'm Brian Sigler.

890
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:41,700
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891
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Jason Long play us out with hard

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lessons because we had a lot of
hard lessons today and so he's

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fans.
Catch him on Spotify and apple

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music.
We thank you for listening and

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as always let's go.
Okay, he's spent my youth just

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rambling around Vernon Aerodrome
from town to town, Devon long

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and his nerves grow cold pretty
soon, is limestone.