This week we recap what was an altogether expected outcome in Atlanta with the Hokies showing solid effort and inconsistent play en route to a 35-20 loss to Georgia Tech. We then open up the mics and let our listeners get off their takes on who they want as the next head coach in Blacksburg.
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And welcome back to the Boundary
Corner podcast along with my
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partners, Brian Siegler,
Jonathan Talley, and a returning
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Shelton Moss.
I am Curtis Wilson and as
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Shelton, say it again.
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right?
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It is Monday.
Y'all, we, we, we all had some
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conflicting things going on
between things outside, then
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normal work, then baseball and
other crap.
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So we are on a Monday night.
How's everybody doing?
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Man, it's it's been a little bit
of overcast, a little rainy, a
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little windy the last couple
days hadn't been able to get
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outside like I quite wanted to.
But I think things are shaping
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up a little bit better tomorrow.
We'll see how it goes, but I'm
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excited to be here tonight.
Excited to see what what some of
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the fans out there have to say
about this head coaching
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situation as we break that down.
But obviously we got to we got
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to tell the truth about Georgia
Tech first, guys.
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No, we really don't have to tell
the truth about.
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We can skip it.
We already know what the truth
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is.
I am excited to hear what
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everybody has to say.
Not that it's going to make a
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difference.
We just talking.
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I mean, they're going to do what
they want to do anyway.
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But I'm excited to hear what
everybody has to say about the
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coaching because there has been
a lot of keyboarding about
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tweets and who should and who
shouldn't.
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And that's a dumb idea.
So you do have your opportunity
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today to come on and let us know
why it is a good idea or why it
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isn't a good idea to hire Blank
shelter.
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How are you buddy?
I'm good, man.
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I've been been very busy, but,
you know, still, still getting
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on the hoagies.
I was at a wedding on Saturday.
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So, you know, I didn't, I didn't
watch the game, obviously, but
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it was kind of nice to sort of,
you know, get away from football
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and especially with the way the
season's been going, just kind
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of, you know, get away from it
and be with be with my friends
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and all that good stuff.
So I'm, I'm a happy guy.
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Yeah.
Saturday I watched the first
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quarter and then one of my
wife's colleague lives out up in
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Montpelier.
If everybody knows where that
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is, a little southeastern,
southwestern Hanover County, not
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a nice little spread.
They do a huge camp out every
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year, like in their backyard.
They got about let's say about 3
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acres.
So they have people camp out,
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party, drinking.
They had a pizza, a pizza truck
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there just making stonefire
pizzas.
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So had some beers, shout out
Ryan, fellow hokey there got to
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chat with him all about it and
some of the other stuff going
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on.
One of my wife's colleagues,
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husband's graduate 19901990 so
old school he said we sucked
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when we were in football there.
Looks like it hadn't changed
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much, but in reality it had.
And you know, he talked about
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going I mean, yeah, he was
straight up he said I went to
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the the I went to the national
championship at Sugar Bowl.
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He had one of his best friends.
I went to Tulane and stayed in
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New Orleans.
So it was also me and him share
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stories back and forth.
Really cool.
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But Tally, we do got to tell the
truth first.
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Then we're going to get one
other piece of news and then we
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are going to open it up to
everybody.
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So I'm going to put that in the
chat in just a few minutes.
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But let's talk about Saturday
afternoon.
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I watch the 1st for it and watch
the rest of it on Sunday
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morning.
And and I'm going to say this
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and it's I think Tally, you
mentioned it last week, Philip
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Montgomery has yet to lose this
team.
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They are not quitting.
They are playing extremely hard.
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That's one of the things that
went well on Saturday.
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Like because it I mean, after,
after that start in that first
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quarter, I mean that game could
have been like 42 nothing and it
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wouldn't have dropped anybody on
this.
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Yeah, I mean, you had, you know,
you got punched in the mouth
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real quick on defense.
You had your your quarterback
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getting nicked up pretty early,
you know, late in the late in
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the early drive.
And I think there was a lot of
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opportunities for the wheels to
completely fall off of that
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game.
And they didn't to the point
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where, you know, late in the
second-half you're you're
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potentially driving to make it a
one score game and you know, get
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get into a situation where you
can maybe let your defense get
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the ball back and see what the
hell happens.
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But unfortunately, that's not
how it played out.
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The the Yellow Jackets ended up
still hanging on to the cover
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because of the decision to go
for two for whatever reason.
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But you know what, I did like
the fight.
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They they definitely did not
quit and they they fought hard
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to the end despite really
getting kind of controlled and
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handled for four quarters.
Yeah, it was.
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What was that about, Wow?
What was going on in the game?
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You.
Talking about the two.
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Points.
Yeah, they're going for two.
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I think I think they were just
trying to I think they were
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trying to hit the kill shot
early.
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Like they felt like if they got
a touchdown in two, we were
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going to be dead.
I think us going for the two
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tally.
I think Montgomery knew the
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defense was going to give up
more and he was trying to steal
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a couple points because my.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I, I kind of what you guys have
already been talking about, I
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mean, when you say what went
well, I just, I can't say enough
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about the kids just playing like
just not giving up, you know,
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going into games kind of knowing
what the situation is.
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And again, every fan, you know,
man, we could have won that.
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We, we should have, what did
this?
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We could have did this
different.
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Like we're down kids, you know
what I'm saying?
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We're down a lot of players, me
and kids, whatever we call them.
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Not an excuse, but it's just we
have fired a coach.
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People's hit the portal,
people's hurt.
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You know, I think we are 5
defensive starters down maybe,
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maybe 6-7 in the 2 deep that we
thought would be contributing,
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not playing.
Some things like that, man.
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It's kind of taking a toll on
what we're doing.
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We'll get into what didn't go
well, you know, But when we talk
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about what went well, I will
continue to say that they're
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fighting, they're not giving up.
They're at least competing in
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these games and not just taking
a 42 to 0 beating because
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against Old Dominion we gave up
and it was bad.
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So I haven't seen, I haven't
seen too much of that going on
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in these games.
So shout out to the to the guys
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out there playing.
Shelton yeah, I mean, you know,
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obviously I didn't watch, I
watched the condensed game.
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I I look this sad, so don't act
like I know what I'm talking
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about, but it's it certainly
seemed like, you know, we did a
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lot of good things in the run
game.
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I mean, look at our success
rates.
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I think we had like 6.8 yards
per rush and that includes sacks
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as well.
So that was good.
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But you know, we kind of got
gashed on the D line.
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So and I kind of mixed bag.
I mean, we just, you know, lost
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to a better team.
We're talented team.
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They're top 15 team in the
country for a reason.
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So I don't know, kind of just
take your lumps and move on.
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Yeah, I'll, I'll say one other
thing because you talk about the
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run game.
We're showing now that they're I
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think we're more fully versed in
Monty system now, like some of
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the wide receivers are getting
to show out like Heath and Green
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have shown showed out on
Saturday.
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You mentioned already the rush
and Hawkins had a really good
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game.
So there is, it's not like the
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cupboard is completely bare, at
least on offense, the defense.
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It's just it feels like it's
getting less and less every
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week.
And, and, and I don't, I don't
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know if that matters or not for
next year, but there are some
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kids that you could see someone
walking in and saying like, now
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you can't leave.
You are going to be my number
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one guy.
So there's what I can go with.
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Let's go to what was bad And the
the start was just brutal.
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I mean, they just deal with they
wanted the first two drives.
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It wasn't even a question.
And that sucked.
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These are things that happen
when you cannot get a pass rush
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and like 3 of your best cover
guys are either injured or in
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the portal.
Yeah, yeah, very true.
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I mean, it's just so much to say
and not say, but like, like
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Brian just alluded to, when you
can't get home and you got
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people in the portal that's
supposed to be playing or hurt,
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it's hard to it's hard to to
make plays and make stuff happen
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now.
But I will say you can kind of
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control that.
We did not do a good job of I'll
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leave it to the chat.
I'll leave it to you guys.
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We had some bull crap going on
with these referees not saying
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this.
Is the reason.
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We lost, but the undisciplined
crap that's just uncalled for,
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you know, all of the false
starts and jumping off sides and
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you know, penalties.
They they started that game and
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said we want Georgia Tech to
win.
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Let's.
Find a way to win.
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I mean for real and.
It was, it was clear the one
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play that it was clear on the
holes and stuff.
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Like we all know that's ticky
tack.
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Some of them are obvious, like
you didn't call it, but the key
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hit that was clear that he hit
him out of bounds and then he
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targeted and then he just.
I think the one that got me the
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most out of the, not the most,
but one of the calls, I think it
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may have been on one of the long
runs.
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I know it was on one of the long
runs that they had, but I can't
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remember who it was or where we
was at.
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But somebody was in the
backfield.
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I think it was Spencer and the
guy like grabbed him by his
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shoulder pass and tried to
tackle it like he was running
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the ball and it was no holding
call in the I mean, right in
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front of the ref.
And I'm just like, well, that's
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what happens when you're a
losing team, You know, you not
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don't get that call.
So all kinds of holes.
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You know, that is what it is.
So I digress.
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Yeah, it's one of those things
where you know you're already
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going into a hostile
environment, so you're going to
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get some home cooking anyway.
They're the ranked team.
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So whether obvious or not,
there's probably going to be
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some, some inherent there.
It's just, it's one of those
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things where I, I think the ACC
officiating overall has been his
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poor, regardless of whether
Virginia Tech's in a factor
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here.
This goes back for many years
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and was probably most apparent
last year, but I think is is is
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rearing its ugly head again this
year.
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So the officiating, the ACC in
general is just awful in the in,
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you know, in this case, I think
Virginia Tech was on the wrong
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side of most of the calls on
Saturday.
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Not that it impacted the outcome
of the game, but it certainly
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was a frustrating thing to deal
with through the course of it.
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And we got Tenacious B in the
chat.
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Put up his put up his his his
troll there.
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Oh tenacious B Thank you buddy
for coming to the chat and and
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and letting us know this man.
It hurt our feelings so bad.
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We don't fucking care.
We already know this dude.
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If you listen to what we saying,
we didn't say we lost because of
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the rails.
We said we lost because we ain't
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got no fucking coach.
Half of our team is in the
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portal and we played a top 15
team.
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That ain't that great to be
honest with you.
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When y'all play somebody who's
worth a shit, you going to
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fucking lose too to be honest
with you.
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So come on man, we here for the
trolling.
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We like it.
We know what we get.
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We also.
Need people to listen right?
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I'm.
Glad you.
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I'm glad you're feeling good.
I'm glad you're feeling good.
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I'm glad your team or maybe not
your team or your brother in We
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know what we are, my friend.
So hey, thank you for joining
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the show.
If you can find a coach to help
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us not be asked, we're going to
put up a link here in just a
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little bit and you can come on
here and tell us how asked we
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are or how a coach can help us
not be asked.
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Thank you to Nation's beat.
Sorry, I'll.
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Go oh man.
All right.
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The other thing also the what
went bad?
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I want to talk about this one
because this did set up their
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second touchdown.
How the hell are you going to do
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the opposite punt thing?
And no motherfucking body on the
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special teams understand where
they supposed to go.
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No two people understood, just
the rest of the fucking.
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Team Well 2 * 11 team.
Did you see that place even?
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Even the cameraman didn't know
where the ball was at, no.
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He didn't because because half
our teams run in the other
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direction, They're following,
they're following the coverage
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unit, they're not following the
ball.
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How do you not locate the ball?
How do you not know where to
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ball?
I don't know man.
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Now that was.
Like.
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That, that was just that one
play and I'm sitting here
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watching it and they don't say,
oh, oh, they kicked it opposite.
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Oh no, exactly.
There's nobody up there to
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actually tackle.
No, I mean, that's a, that's a
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good, that's a good assessment.
That's what it's Wits fault.
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It's all with everything we've.
Got with.
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All right, last piece I got to
say is my man Tally texted me
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Tally the unnecessary sacks
because Tally is texting just F
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bombs off the hand.
Just like throw the ball away,
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don't take the sack power, don't
take unnecessary.
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You get out of the when you get
out of the and Kyra is my guy.
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I got Kyra's shirt on right now.
Shout out to Kyra when you get
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out of the tackle box, just
throw it away.
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Don't give them a sack to get
them hyped up at the beginning
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of the game.
So I don't know, man, Just no
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situational awareness.
Is it any coaching on the
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sideline when we do stupid shit?
I don't know, you know, I don't
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know what's going on, but I know
he.
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Almost got rid of that one where
he went to Mahomes full full
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horizontal but he couldn't quite
get it to the line of scrimmage
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just about.
Any anything else that what went
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bad, it stuck out.
I'm trying to roll through it.
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We saw I.
Mean the big, the big one was
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just, you know, Haynes King
being unstoppable.
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And again, I already kind of
talked about a little bit, I
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mean, when you can't rush the
passer because you're missing
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what, three of your, your, your,
your top pass rushers at this
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point.
And then you, you roll back and
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you got three of your best cover
guys out for one reason or
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another, it's going to take a
toll on you.
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And we're starting to see
quarterback efficiency go way
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the fuck up against us.
And that's that's the reason why
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when a, when a quarterback has
time and you can't cover for
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very long, they're going to
complete a lot of fucking passes
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and.
He did, yeah.
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And I'll also say, I'll also say
I got the set wrong.
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Our our yards per rush was 6.7
adjusted for sacks, 5.5 just,
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you know, regular because for
some reason college still
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includes sack yards and rushes.
But 6.4 yards rush allowed, that
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is not good.
And, and from what I saw in the
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condensed game, we were just
getting bulldozed in the
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interior, just, you know, take
taken out of the play, you know,
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cut out.
So that was not, that was not
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good.
Yeah, yeah. 6.4, yeah. 6.4.
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They went almost 500 total
yards, not good at all.
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And, and here's what I'll say is
and, and, and I don't know if
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we're going to put this bid bad
or indifferent.
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We'll, we'll kind of start
closing it out here.
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I got really tell them you got
to tell me a website that counts
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it better because me going
through the thing and being like
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123, we were in 24 plays in the
first half, 2424 plays, not
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counting punts, kickoff returns,
a 24 offensive place and we
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split it down the middle pass to
rushing.
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Yeah, we're not going to win a
lot of games if you go ass
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backwards with what you do.
Well, because I think with the
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Doug Bowman the day had the stat
like we were one of the best
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rushing teams, like what, 25th
in the country with efficiency
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showed.
You might have saw that or you
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might have had that and we're
like 125 when passing.
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We can't come out here and just
we're going, we're going, we're
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going to pass the ball halftime,
we're going to run the ball
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halftime.
No, you cannot do that.
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And and some people say, well,
we got down 15 for the 2
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gentlemen, 2 guy on on the other
side of the screen both played
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most of the time when the
offense, even if you get down a
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couple scores, are you going to
completely go away from what you
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do best?
It's like we're down to if we
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score a touchdown to 1
possession game.
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I didn't get that and it
frustrated me.
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It don't matter.
If we do.
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It's OK to, you know, like you
said, you go away from what you
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do well, and then not only do
you go away from what you do
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well, you go to something that
you do horrible.
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We ain't no fucking passing
team.
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We ain't doing good at it.
I think we may have had
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something ridiculous for the
last two weeks. 35 yards one
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week in passing, maybe 50 yards
another week in passing, going
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in the halftime, but not a
passing team.
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I said before the yeah, I said
before the game, you got to you
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got to do what Hans Keane does.
You got to you got to use him
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like that.
You got to run the ball.
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And I mean, Kyrie did a good job
of running the ball.
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He did a good job of it's not
too many people that really want
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to hit him when you when you put
him, you know, in the get him to
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the secondary, if you can give
him a hold to get through.
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And then you pairing him with
Hawkins and little bit of
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Stuart.
I think Stuart's still dealing
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with some some injury type
stuff.
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But whatever the case is, I
mean, we got people that's in
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there running hard.
When we get opportunity one time
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we start driving the ball down
the field and then what do we
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do?
We start fucking passing it and
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throw a pick.
What do you got to pass it for?
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Running it just fine.
Like he's getting like 7 yards
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of carry that that that that
drive.
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So I don't know, man.
I understand coaches are
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stubborn a lot of times and want
to be like this is what my
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offense does, but this team
can't run that offense so switch
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it up and try to win a game.
Yeah.
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At some point you got to lean on
your strengths and play with the
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strengths of the personnel that
you have.
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And when you look at the
personnel that we have right
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now, you know, we we've got some
good wide outs that I think you
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want to try to get the ball to.
But at the same time the
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strength of your quarterback is
not dropping back and throwing
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down the field.
The strength of your quarterback
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is giving the ball off, using
him in the running game, working
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in some shots or, or some stuff.
I'll play action that gives him
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the opportunity to really kind
of survey and, and, and get a
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really good look at the field
and not have to just have a
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straight drop back and have to
get to his third read in his
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progression to get a completion.
That's not that's never going to
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be coverage strength.
So I think we definitely need to
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lean on that running game as
much as we can going forward.
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And it was.
It was frustrating at times to
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watch because when we did
finally commit to it the way I
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thought we should, we saw some
success.
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We.
Did I'll I'll throw this one in
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there.
It's something, I don't really
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know what category it falls
under, but we didn't have a John
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Love field goal this week.
That's, that's, that's all that
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man needs to keep kicking so he
can get in the league and make
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money and he's he's.
I mean, we ended up, you know,
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getting getting down there a
couple times.
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You know, we went forward turn
it over on downs.
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Yeah.
So.
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Yeah, we went forward.
We'll do what you're supposed to
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do when you're the underdog,
you're supposed to go for it.
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So yeah, we didn't see a John
left field goal.
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So yeah, Shelton, anything to
put the cherry on top of the
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Georgia Tech game.
Yeah.
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Regarding the run, the run pass
splits credited Doug.
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Doug Bowman here.
Tech ranks 33rd in FBS in
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rushing success rate, but only
125th in passing success rate,
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130.
And I was like, there's 134 in,
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right, 130, yeah, 136 now, but
still.
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And then you look at some of the
EPA numbers, pretty much the
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same splits rushing overall, I
think it's 23rd and then passing
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111th.
So, you know, if, if Tech ran
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the ball more, would those
splits necessarily stay the
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same?
I don't think so.
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But at the same time, you know,
they could probably a little bit
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more balanced relative to what
their strengths are, like Brian
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said.
So I just think, you know,
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Montgomery's really trying to
force the pass and it's just,
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it's just not working at all.
You know, it kind of worked last
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year because we got we had guys
like tuned that could, you know,
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really break off big explosive
plays.
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But it's just, it's just not
going to work with this team.
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But the with the personal they
have.
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So I I do think they need to
start running a little bit more.
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They go, they go.
That's something like Kyron has
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like has been pressured like
some of the most in the country
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as Oh yes.
Drop backs, yeah, it was like it
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was, it was total number of
quarterback hits, I think hits.
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I could remember.
Those pressures are hits, yeah.
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Right.
Yeah.
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Percent percentage wise, it's
not, it's, it's not, it's not
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like #1 bad, but it's, it's
still up there in terms like the
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actual total.
So he's just just taking such a
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high volume of hits to his body.
There we go.
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What can we do better moving
forward?
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Protect power and run the ball
more and be who you are.
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All right, before we get into
the big topic and start bringing
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people on tonight, I want to hit
one topic we just did not get a
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chance to hit last week.
And that is the changes that are
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likely to be voted and confirmed
with the portal for 2026.
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And if you hadn't heard, and I'm
going to get y'all's opinion
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real quick, but this is the ones
I pulled out.
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First of all, spring portal is
being eliminated.
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If you're with your team in
spring, you're with them all
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year.
They are moving the.
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Portal.
Window that was December.
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For 20 days to January, it's
going to be effectively the 2nd
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through the 16th.
Now if you are in the CFP that
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moves and they get an additional
5 days to get in the portal
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after their final game.
Another change and we've already
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seen the reflection on that for
this year is for us it was the
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coach leave the 30 minute or 30
day window immediately after
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their fire.
So that Monday Prowl shower on a
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Sunday, it's open from that
Monday, 30 days.
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I think we are just about
closing it now, right?
443
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,200
It's almost closed.
It was the 20th or something.
444
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,640
So we got another week where
kids can jump in the portal.
445
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:48,120
Well, that changes as well.
If the coach leaves, first of
446
00:25:48,120 --> 00:25:50,920
all, for anything can happen.
It's a five day grace period.
447
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,640
So to me, what they're saying is
if you get fired, you're going
448
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:57,040
to get a whole week with your
new coach and then after that,
449
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,840
15 days to enter the portal.
So not as long.
450
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:06,720
I'll start with Sheldon.
I like it, hate it, don't give a
451
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,440
shit.
Yeah, I have a lot of
452
00:26:09,360 --> 00:26:12,200
interesting thoughts on this.
You know, I'm a I'm a big
453
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,680
athletes rights guys.
I always support the players and
454
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:16,800
sometimes it leads me to very
unpopular opinions.
455
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:21,200
But I guess my question would be
like, it seems like an extremely
456
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:25,080
small window of time considering
you've got the playoffs going
457
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:26,520
on.
You know, guys are making
458
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,480
decisions where they don't
necessarily know, you know, what
459
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,400
the what the outlook for the
team is or you know who the
460
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:34,760
coach is going to be sometimes.
And you know, the end of the
461
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,600
school year, summer is when, you
know, lots of students tend to
462
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,840
leave and transfer.
So you're kind of saying like
463
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,800
football players can't do that
without, I guess, suffering a
464
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,360
penalty.
So I think it'll probably be
465
00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:48,160
challenged in court.
I understand it.
466
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,480
You know, it certainly leads to
more, you know, stability, I
467
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,720
guess from like the coach's
perspective and you kind of know
468
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,760
who's going to be under roster.
But it it seems that it seems a
469
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,520
tad bit too much.
So I would like to see maybe a
470
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,040
little bit more concession
towards the the player side
471
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,560
here.
But I like I said, I I think
472
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,840
this will will get challenged up
pretty pretty soon here.
473
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:13,960
I think if there were scenarios
where a coach wasn't having to
474
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:19,320
not only re recruit his entire
roster, but also get in the
475
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,160
transfer portal and fill and
fill any gaps that would be
476
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:26,520
remaining, you could you could
keep a situation where you had a
477
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,240
spring portal and a winter
portal.
478
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:35,560
I feel like with the structure
of the transfer portal and NIL
479
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:41,240
and the ability of of players to
really be as mobile as they are,
480
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,240
there's going to need to be some
give and take with that.
481
00:27:45,360 --> 00:27:50,080
And I'm I'm not sure if this is
maybe the best implementation of
482
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:55,720
that, but I think it does give a
little bit more stability of
483
00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:00,960
coaches being able to balance re
recruiting their roster, what
484
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:02,320
they can get in the transfer
portal.
485
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:06,800
And at least knowing more or
less that once they get their
486
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:13,240
roster kind of set and raked
after that window, they at least
487
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,360
know what they're going to be
starting the season with.
488
00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:20,320
Even if players ultimately
decide to opt out red shirt and
489
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:24,640
transfer mid season like we've
seen with some players, you know
490
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:26,280
that's going to happen
regardless.
491
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:30,240
But you know this, this is at
least saying, you know, within
492
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,720
that window, there's not going
to be two different windows of
493
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,720
shuffling in the offseason that
a coach would have to manage as
494
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,360
they're kind of working towards
that fall camp.
495
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,760
Anything on this?
Town, I mean, just what
496
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:49,200
everybody else has kind of said.
I know well, Brian mainly, but
497
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:55,200
it's kind of like it's become
became such a shit show, to be
498
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,160
honest with you.
Like I I'm with Shelton as far
499
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:03,040
as the players advocate and they
do deserve certain things.
500
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,200
But I get it.
You know, coaches are leaving,
501
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,240
coaches are getting fired and
changing and things like that.
502
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:14,360
So a lot of stuff happens, but I
think they just let it be the
503
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,920
wild, Wild West for so long
until somebody finally was like,
504
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,080
please, let's do something.
And they're like, oh, you need
505
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:21,360
me?
Well, now I got to pimp you
506
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:22,760
again.
You know what I'm saying?
507
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,360
It's kind of like that's what I
feel like it went to.
508
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,920
So only way I can describe like
something had to happen because
509
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:34,680
it's so much movement and being
you got so many kids that are
510
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:40,000
like not playing in bowl games
and all my transfer I'm sitting
511
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,160
out because of this.
So they're like, OK, well, you
512
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,240
messing with our money, so we're
going to mess with y'all's
513
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,960
money.
So it is what it is, man.
514
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,120
I, I ain't saying it's good or
bad.
515
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,440
I don't know.
I think that anything where they
516
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,560
get their mix and then get
involved.
517
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:57,280
Sometimes it's a little screwy,
but we'll see how it plays out.
518
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:02,200
A. 100% and see it's it's like a
split difference here because
519
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,880
what you say, Shelton Yep, that
they are they are humans.
520
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,320
They should have some sort of
rights when it comes to this,
521
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,240
but there's also needs to be
structure.
522
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,680
In so many other sports, there
are structure and so many other
523
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,160
leagues.
Their structure and this is it
524
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,240
is the wild, Wild West.
If they had just started a few
525
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,440
years ago and just said when you
initially get to your
526
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,480
destination after you sign your
your letter of intent, you got
527
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,880
to stay there three years.
Now you have to and then get
528
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,040
your money.
And then after that third year,
529
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,280
you likely have two years of
eligibility left.
530
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:34,840
Then do whatever the hell you
want to do.
531
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,600
So I think it's almost there
like they're tightening it up.
532
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,400
I think if I, if I remember
correctly from reading the
533
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,200
articles, they are going to be
exceptions where if effectively
534
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,120
a player goes to a coach and the
coach signs off, the coach can
535
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,400
they can enter the portal and
they can transfer during the
536
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:56,080
summer.
And maybe that comes smaller
537
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,920
waves.
Like if you just got to a school
538
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,440
you can't immediately like to me
like a double year transfer.
539
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,920
If you transfer portal in
January, you cannot do it again
540
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,560
in May.
If you've been there two seasons
541
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,880
and you got Overpass, maybe,
maybe something like that, but
542
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,720
that'll be interesting.
Yeah, three years, Chris.
543
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,640
With with would there be 3 years
to that?
544
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,040
Would there be exceptions to
that?
545
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,360
What do you mean outside of
coaching changes?
546
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,680
Would would there be exceptions
to not being a transfer
547
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,000
back-to-back years?
No, it's not back-to-back years.
548
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:25,840
Sorry, I thought.
I thought that's.
549
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:26,720
What?
No, no, same year.
550
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,640
So if you transferred in January
to tech and then you were like,
551
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,360
you know what?
I can't even crack the four DP.
552
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,040
I'm that bad of a player.
I want to transfer to Eastern
553
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:39,000
Washington.
You don't get to do that because
554
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,000
then I mean, that's that's
really the bigger issue.
555
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:46,080
So, all right, well, that's what
we got so far.
556
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,160
But I see the chat has been
lighting up the whole time.
557
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:54,560
Now we are here for the real
chef and that is hearing y'all's
558
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,880
opinions on who you feel the
next Virginia Tech coach should
559
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,480
be.
We're going to put it real
560
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,280
simple.
This isn't you're going to come
561
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,280
on here and talk for 30 minutes.
Callie said it very nicely the
562
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,520
first time we did this.
He going to come on, speak a
563
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:13,440
couple minutes, we may have a
question, we may ask you a
564
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,280
question and keep going.
But then after you've done all
565
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:17,480
that, where they got to go
tally?
566
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,440
Got to go to the left, man.
You ain't got to go home.
567
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:22,720
You got to get the hell out of
here.
568
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,960
You got to get out of here.
There's likely to be more people
569
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:30,280
want to talk about who they
think should be the coach, so.
570
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,960
We run a space, you know, at one
time we'll run a space or
571
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,120
something like that, or we'll
get a little bit more in depth
572
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,040
about wanting to hear you guys
because we do love to hear, you
573
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:41,400
know, everybody's takes and
stuff.
574
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,400
We just don't have enough time
to go so deep on here.
575
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:49,280
So the only thing that we ask
when you come on, I mean, it's
576
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,240
it's I ain't saying it's no
rules, but everybody, we know
577
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,960
how to act.
All we're saying is if you come
578
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:59,680
on and you got a coach, we just
want you to come on, tell us why
579
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,400
you think this is the kind of
coach we need and how realistic.
580
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,000
Maybe some things like that.
We may ask a couple questions on
581
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:10,720
that, but it ain't just give me
Jon Gruden because he looks like
582
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,520
Chucky, say.
Dick Saban, I mean, that's a
583
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,480
that's a good pick, but you got
to tell me why that's a
584
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,720
realistic choice.
Why is how you think What?
585
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:19,720
What drew you to that?
Yeah.
586
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:23,600
And what what needs to happen
for us to entice him?
587
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,760
Something you got to give us,
give us a, you know, maybe give
588
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,720
us a sandwich with some chips on
the side.
589
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:33,840
Like we don't need spaghetti,
the salad, the bread, you know,
590
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,400
then some lasagna.
We don't need that whole meal.
591
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,360
Just give me like a little.
We don't need Sunday dinner
592
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,400
like.
Not only Sunday, we just want
593
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,960
like a little cookout, little
cookout plate, you know what I'm
594
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:44,760
saying?
Hot dog.
595
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,160
We don't need the milkshake
though, we just need to drink.
596
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,240
We don't need the milkshake.
No, no no, we don't have no
597
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:54,320
shakes in here, no milkshakes.
Black people be lactose
598
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:55,960
intolerant anyway.
We don't really mess with
599
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,160
milkshake, our stomach be messed
up so all.
600
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:04,080
Right, I I have dropped the link
in the the YouTube chat and
601
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,200
Twitter chat.
We already got one.
602
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,480
We already got 1 alum coming in.
We already got 1 alum coming in.
603
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,639
So we'll get him in here first.
Y'all know him?
604
00:34:14,199 --> 00:34:15,600
Y'all know him What's?
Up homie.
605
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,360
Christopher Lester.
I got to him, man.
606
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,520
Hold on before you get started
Chris, this is AI.
607
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,600
See the hokey jersey in the
background?
608
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,760
Yeah.
Oh, never mind, never mind.
609
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,400
I see what the hat says.
I was.
610
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,440
Like, yeah, we.
Are not supporting no Cowboys on
611
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:32,719
here.
But then I read it.
612
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,159
OK, You're fine with that.
Hey, listen, man.
613
00:34:37,199 --> 00:34:38,600
We talking hokey?
Football.
614
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:43,840
This is my applying pressure hat
to to my to my professional
615
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:48,280
team, but my but my choice.
And me and we've talked, you
616
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,400
know, we talk everyday.
I don't know why Sheldon ain't
617
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,360
in the chat, but he's probably
somewhere asleep.
618
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,280
So he's not kicking when it's on
this chat.
619
00:34:55,280 --> 00:35:00,560
We have on a regular basis.
My, my, my, my, my choice is up
620
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,720
until this weekend, it was
Sullivan down in, I mean,
621
00:35:03,720 --> 00:35:06,400
Summerall, I think some is it
Summerall down in Tulane.
622
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,200
That was my job.
That was my guy down there.
623
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:14,640
But dude, I go get it.
Go get a former Penn State
624
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,120
coach, man, Go get James
Franklin.
625
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:21,960
And I think you go get him
because he gives you the the
626
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:26,120
notoriety of being a big time
coach coming here.
627
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,960
He's going to a lesser
conference that he can has the
628
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,480
ability to win because where he
was at, he was always, always
629
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,120
the fourth team in that
conference when he was in the
630
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,440
Big 10 and, and, and it dropped,
he was third and then it dropped
631
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:42,480
down.
Now it's Ohio State, Michigan,
632
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:46,440
it's going to be Ohio State,
Oregon, Indiana.
633
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,760
And then, you know, now he's in
that rumbling with Michigan and
634
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:53,920
all those other people.
So go get James.
635
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,880
He's been able to pill for
Virginia for years in the
636
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,560
recruiting ranks.
And then I'll go get him.
637
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,360
But that's, that's my choice,
man.
638
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,240
That's my choice.
Tally, he came out, he already
639
00:36:05,240 --> 00:36:08,560
got you flagged there.
That's your flag because Tally,
640
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,480
that's that's who Tally's on.
Hey, I mean, if you, if you're
641
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,720
going to, if you, if you're
going to go and sell out and for
642
00:36:15,720 --> 00:36:18,280
you to get signity, which
probably won't happen, you're
643
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,720
going to pay 10 million.
That would be that.
644
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,480
You know, that would be a great
move.
645
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,560
But with Penn State being open,
that's going to be to the point
646
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:30,400
somebody's going to have to pay
that guy 10 to 11,000,000 to get
647
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,840
him out of Indiana.
So let's go ahead and get that
648
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,680
out the way.
You're going to have to pay him
649
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,000
that kind of money to get him
out.
650
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,280
And if I'm him, I'm not leaving
there.
651
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,200
Why would I leave there?
I'm right in the middle of the
652
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,240
Midwest.
I can get all the offensive
653
00:36:42,240 --> 00:36:47,000
lineman I want that don't go end
up going to Wisconsin or Iowa
654
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:48,880
somewhere.
And I'm always going to be able
655
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,720
to get skill players, so.
Yeah, and I and you can take a
656
00:36:52,720 --> 00:36:56,960
step back Mayor, win 8 or 9
games and not not really have a
657
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,800
concern for your job.
Well, the the duo.
658
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,240
Going to end up having he's
probably going to mess around.
659
00:37:02,240 --> 00:37:04,680
He's definitely going to be in
the CFP 2 years back-to-back.
660
00:37:04,720 --> 00:37:07,840
He's going to have a quarterback
that's going to be either get a
661
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,880
call to go to New York to be in
the Heisman candidate, a Heisman
662
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,600
Trophy race or be a first round
draft pick.
663
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,400
So he going to turn around and
get get another quarterback and
664
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,280
his brother's already there.
He's already talented.
665
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:23,200
So, yeah, but you know, when,
when, when he comes back
666
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,320
expectations.
And that's why I'm saying if you
667
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:30,640
bring Coach Franklin here, we
got to get back to 8-9 wins.
668
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,520
You know, we got to get back to
that this point of old.
669
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,440
He doesn't win the big game.
And a lot of people have said
670
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:41,080
this, you're at Virginia Tech.
We we haven't won a lot of big
671
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,640
games.
That we were doing, so this is
672
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:47,000
what I'll throw in too.
This is just about the coaching,
673
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:51,200
so search in general because I
posted some on the X and people
674
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,400
was like, Oh no, why would you
want him?
675
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,560
He don't win the big games.
First of all, go look at his
676
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,800
record.
We changed to what we feel like
677
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,840
a big game because he won games
in the playoffs and he's not a
678
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,640
big that's not a big game
because he can't beat Ohio
679
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,840
State.
Who who can fucking beat Ohio
680
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,920
State right now?
There ain't too many people
681
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:13,800
because this is not just him.
Listen, man, sometimes I'm dumb.
682
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,200
It don't happen very often, but
I'm kind of dumb sometimes.
683
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,200
So I had to go back and change
my stance on things.
684
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,160
I was thinking about Shane
Beamer.
685
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,520
I was like, hell, Nah, because I
don't like Shane.
686
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,120
I don't like his attitude.
He whines a little bit too much
687
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,000
for me.
But I did have to go back and
688
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,280
say if we are looking for a
coach, I can't say I can't.
689
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,600
I'm Virginia Tech.
I can't turn my nose up at to
690
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,240
nobody that.
Is.
691
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,200
Producing.
So I had to go back and think
692
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,640
about it so far, all the people
or in the chat today or people
693
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,680
who just may go back and watch
this, any coach that's being
694
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,720
talked about, how can you turn
your nose up at a coach and say
695
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,280
he can't win the big game and we
can't fucking win a little game?
696
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:54,400
We can.
Drug by.
697
00:38:55,320 --> 00:39:03,040
We got drug liberty.
So you mean to tell me if we
698
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:07,040
bring a coach in and he gets us
to 8-9 wins for the next three
699
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,080
years, that's not a step up.
Come on man, y'all got to come
700
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,400
on start thinking stop talking
crazy.
701
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,920
We're not going to hire a coach
and go to the playoffs the next
702
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:17,040
year.
We're not going to hire a coach
703
00:39:17,240 --> 00:39:18,600
and go to the national
championship.
704
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:22,200
We we only been one time.
I'm just saying calm down.
705
00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:23,800
I just wanted to go ahead and
get that out.
706
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,760
So when we're talking about
these coaches, everybody kind of
707
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:30,120
gets a level head on what we
thinking because when you go in
708
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:34,200
these chats, when you go in
these spaces and stuff, you can
709
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:35,600
do that.
We ain't doing that tonight.
710
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,000
Like don't come on here and
talk.
711
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,640
No, not this person.
No, not that person that Hey,
712
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,880
Chris.
As always, appreciate you giving
713
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,360
the time.
We got two more in the hole.
714
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:45,680
Hey, man, I get out.
I got you.
715
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,160
Hey, I just want to get in and
get it out, man.
716
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,080
Appreciate y'all man.
Hurry up.
717
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:50,640
Let's hurry up soon.
Get Shelton to sleep because.
718
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:54,200
Shelton about to fall asleep.
He's trying.
719
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:55,440
He's thinking.
Of the good buddy.
720
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:57,160
I'll meet you later, Chris,
please.
721
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,600
All right, throw Quest in here.
Quest.
722
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,440
Here's some quest how we doing.
Can you hear me?
723
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:08,880
We got you.
We got.
724
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:10,720
You.
Hey, I'm.
725
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:12,240
Huh.
Who's your?
726
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,280
Man.
Man, I'm going to be honest.
727
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:20,280
It's Shane, OK?
But I'm going to tell it's
728
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,160
really not Shane, but it's
Shane.
729
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,440
Because he makes the most sense.
For what we need right now,
730
00:40:25,720 --> 00:40:29,160
like, and it's something me and
Tally talk about on a regular,
731
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,520
Shane Beamer walks in the door.
We're going to get whatever we
732
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,560
want from the boosters.
He's going to be able to walk
733
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:36,960
in.
He's been recruiting Virginia
734
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:38,840
very well down to South
Carolina.
735
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:46,320
He has the name recognition from
his pops so it feeds 2 things.
736
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:50,400
For whatever reason, we are
stuck on nostalgia at Virginia
737
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,760
Tech.
We can't let it go from in a
738
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:56,040
Sandman to the Lunch Pail.
We we constantly want to bring
739
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,440
all of this back.
So we got a unique situation
740
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,600
where we can bring back some
nostalgia.
741
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,240
He was a player.
His dad is the GOAT at Virginia
742
00:41:04,240 --> 00:41:06,440
Tech.
And it also moves forward to the
743
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:11,280
future because Shane is running
South Carolina like a real, you
744
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,600
know, 2025 type programs should
be run.
745
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,600
They're not winning like that,
but.
746
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,120
I like that.
That's a good point, man.
747
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,000
He is.
He's got them in the right
748
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,720
direction for current times.
For current times, yeah.
749
00:41:22,720 --> 00:41:26,480
So who would I like?
I'm just going to be honest.
750
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:30,840
For me, I would like Urban
Meyer, because if you come in
751
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,680
Urban Meyer, within two years
you're going to be playing for
752
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,800
national championship.
That's his resume.
753
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,200
Now.
What happens after he leaves?
754
00:41:42,240 --> 00:41:44,680
You don't.
But I'm going to be honest, if
755
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:49,320
we're going to wind up spending
close to 12 million for a coach
756
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,920
like right now, you got guys
like what's my man down in
757
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,960
Kentucky?
You got Mark Stoops, who's
758
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,360
making nine and a half million
right now.
759
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,360
I saw, I saw you put that on the
timeline a couple days ago and
760
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,680
you were like, you're going to
have to pay 101112 million for a
761
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:05,800
coach.
Yeah.
762
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,680
So if we're going to have to
spend that kind of money, let's
763
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,360
just and you know, I was kind of
joking here in the chat a little
764
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,760
while when I said a little while
ago when I said Nick Saban.
765
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,640
But the reality is, let's look
at what comes up.
766
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,960
Penn State is probably going to
reset the the pay scale for
767
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,040
coaches coming up here if they
can afford it.
768
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:30,520
So depending on what happens, if
we know that the new UCLA has
769
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,720
the money to spend on the coach,
That's not saying they will, but
770
00:42:33,720 --> 00:42:35,120
they have.
They don't.
771
00:42:35,720 --> 00:42:37,600
They don't.
They don't have the money to
772
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,760
spend on the.
Couch, they don't.
773
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,400
Have the money right?
Here's the thing that a lot of
774
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,920
people mention about Penn State.
A lot of schools are looking to
775
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,840
private equity to fund their
coaches.
776
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:52,280
So you got UCLA in a place like
LA with that kind of potential
777
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,600
revenue base, advertising and
everything else.
778
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,040
I could see them understanding
what the arms race looks like,
779
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:02,480
going to go work a private
equity deal and dropping
780
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,280
15,000,000 on a coach.
I really think Penn State is
781
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:09,240
going to spend around 15,000,000
on their next coach.
782
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,000
I think Oklahoma State is
probably going to spend around
783
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,080
12 to 13 million on their next
coach.
784
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,840
So if we're in that kind of
ballpark, if that's what we're
785
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,240
talking about, fuck it.
Let's just shoot for the moon.
786
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,520
Let's make Nick a offer.
Like Nick, look, we hear you
787
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:25,760
want to get back at the
coaching.
788
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,400
We got 16,000,000 a year for
four years.
789
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:33,160
What do you think?
God, dawg, Well, quest, I know
790
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,800
we I know we can.
I know we can pick your brain
791
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,600
for the rest of the night and I
probably will once we get done
792
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:43,320
with this, but we appreciate you
coming on the last, the last
793
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,200
thing that I'll throw out there.
I guess I'll say if you had to
794
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:50,600
do some off script stuff to get
Nick Saban in Blacksburg, what
795
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,440
are you doing?
Oh, man.
796
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,760
Listen, I'm promising Nick.
I'm promising Nick the world
797
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:56,720
like Nick, we're going to, we're
going to give you part of a new
798
00:43:56,720 --> 00:43:58,560
hotel.
We're going to give you part of
799
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,200
one of these car dealerships
over here.
800
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,560
Like I'm, I'm like Nick, we're
going.
801
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:07,840
To give you Blacksburg, Why not?
Listen, we're going to give you
802
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,000
lights up.
We got this new Amazon situation
803
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,600
going.
Like Nick, we will have Amazon
804
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:16,600
lease the building from you and
just let you get some of the
805
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,240
returns on that.
Get creative they're.
806
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:20,960
Going to.
Save in motor mile.
807
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,520
There.
You go, there, you go, there you
808
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,440
go.
Like again, don't think it's
809
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,640
going to happen.
So just for the context of this,
810
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,160
I just think everybody needs to
lock in and get comfortable with
811
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:34,920
Shane being the front runner
now.
812
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:38,920
I would like James Franklin.
I think he's I think he recruits
813
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,280
Virginia very well.
And it's it's it's like what
814
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,200
Tally said.
Listen, we're complaining about
815
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,440
James doesn't win the big game.
We ain't been to no big games in
816
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:46,760
the wild.
We.
817
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:51,240
Just.
Need to get we just need to win
818
00:44:51,240 --> 00:44:53,480
the little games and then we
just need to win the little
819
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:54,760
games.
Let's win the games we we
820
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,840
supposed to win first and then
we can worry about beating
821
00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,520
ranked teams and taking care of
that business.
822
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,640
But I, I.
The reason I don't think James
823
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,760
Franklin happens is because of
pride.
824
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:08,040
I just think there's a bad taste
coming in from hence, you know,
825
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:12,640
Penn State, he was prize boss,
you know, who knows, somebody
826
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,240
might float the room that he's
going to hire prices DC and
827
00:45:15,240 --> 00:45:16,920
bring him back to Blacksburg
like.
828
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:23,240
That's really my only knock.
And not, not, not that scenario,
829
00:45:23,240 --> 00:45:27,760
but my only knock against
Franklin is like, is this going
830
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,160
down?
Like, OK, so you're hiring
831
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:30,360
somebody that just left Penn
State.
832
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,560
We just tried that with Pride.
I know Pride was the first time
833
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,080
head coach.
There was a whole lot of other
834
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:38,160
ancillary things that were
potential pitfalls or pride, but
835
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,360
it feels like kind of going to
the hole, going to the same
836
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,720
well.
Again, don't forget the failed
837
00:45:42,720 --> 00:45:46,720
OC came from Penn State too.
He was on stat.
838
00:45:46,720 --> 00:45:48,080
He was on.
That's how far I knew him.
839
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,560
He was on.
So it's a lot of that Penn State
840
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:54,320
negativity, which is why I don't
think James Franklin happens.
841
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,120
Before I get out of here, I
would just like to say please
842
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:58,760
stop the day of Mueller
conversations.
843
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:00,360
I don't want to see him in
Blacksburg.
844
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,480
I don't think it works you.
Ain't going to want to hear me
845
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,120
talking.
Hey, hey, hey, hey.
846
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,000
Just keep hanging on Quest.
We got some people that's going
847
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,840
to come in here and say, yeah,
Brian, I know you got some other
848
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,160
people to get in here.
Yeah, question.
849
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:15,480
Appreciate it though.
All right.
850
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:21,080
Thanks guys.
What's up y'all?
851
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,960
What's going on, man?
Yeah, when I put my hat on.
852
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:28,560
And he came in.
Listen, listen, I've been
853
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,880
thinking about this all day.
I ain't going to lie to y'all.
854
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,480
All day I've been thinking about
this.
855
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,480
This.
This I don't want James Franklin
856
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:41,600
conversation is bothering me.
To death, I promise y'all, like
857
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,120
you can't tell me.
You can't tell me.
858
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,600
You look at Beamer's record and
then look at Frank, I mean James
859
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:51,160
Franklin's record and say I
don't want this guy.
860
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,440
And we celebrate Beamer like
he's the best thing in the
861
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,040
world.
Like, there's big, there's.
862
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,920
Stats to prove that he's done,
he's done, he's done well.
863
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,160
So I don't know.
Franklin, probably one of the
864
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,360
most, he is one of the most
qualified coaches out there
865
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,000
right now.
Yeah, he lost some games this
866
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:10,840
year.
I'm not saying Jane Franklin's
867
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,160
coming, but like I said earlier,
I think.
868
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:17,600
He got unjustified because they
dumb up there.
869
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:22,600
But here's my worry, Dale and he
I'll, I'll, I'll put my Franklin
870
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,320
while I worry about it.
If you said we hired him, I'd be
871
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:30,040
OK with it.
What I worry is, is, and I know
872
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:31,960
people are going to say he's
going to the ACC, it's not as
873
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:36,400
talented.
The talent he had to me he did
874
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:40,000
less with and that's my work.
And everybody's like, well, he
875
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,920
recruits Virginia.
Hold on, let me go on the rant I
876
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,960
went on a little while ago.
Brit Brown recruit the hell out
877
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,080
of Virginia.
Go look at his 247 resume, all
878
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,240
the primaries he was on.
That didn't help.
879
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,320
Shane recruited the shit out of
Virginia when he was at Georgia,
880
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:58,160
and when he was at South
Carolina, he came home, he
881
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:02,360
couldn't close on certain guys.
My fear is it's not who they
882
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,800
are.
The stigma inside the state is
883
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:06,880
kids.
I don't want to go there.
884
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,480
And the only way we'd have a
chance if somebody backed up the
885
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,560
truck and said you want the
biggest bag ever, you got here.
886
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:20,160
And again, I'm not saying if we
hired him, I'd be like, you know
887
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:21,880
what?
I would talk myself into him,
888
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,160
but that's my only fear.
Here's my thing.
889
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,840
If we going to pay money for
somebody, don't go get one of
890
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:31,840
these group of five coaches or
nothing like that.
891
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,560
We're going to pay a whole bunch
of money to somebody.
892
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:39,040
Like if I'm going to a car lot
tally and I'm going to go spend
893
00:48:39,240 --> 00:48:44,360
$80,000 on something, don't give
me no, don't give me no junk.
894
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:48,280
I want something proven,
something nice like give me.
895
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,600
The thing, the thing you run
into with coaching though, is
896
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,640
like, I'm not a no group of five
coaches type of guy.
897
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,080
It just comes down sometimes to
like if I like the style that
898
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,400
that person plays, I heard an
interview and I like them.
899
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,320
That's just a personal thing
because The thing is that some
900
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,240
of the coaches that are at some
of these group of fives when
901
00:49:07,240 --> 00:49:11,280
they go to bigger schools, like
look at Signet, he mean
902
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,960
superstar.
What's the coach that said, the
903
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:19,080
coach that said Oregon right
now, what's my man's name?
904
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,640
Dan Lane, right?
So say what now?
905
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,800
Lanny was a Georgia first, you
got to remember.
906
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,680
That right, But he was a he was,
he was not a head coach at
907
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,040
Georgia.
He was that's what I'm saying.
908
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:36,520
So when you look at things like,
OK, we hired Brett Pryor as a
909
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:41,720
defensive coordinator, hadn't
coached organ, hired this guy
910
00:49:41,720 --> 00:49:44,320
and he been tearing it up for
the most part, you know what I'm
911
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,200
saying?
So it's different situations.
912
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,000
So I don't say no, this can't
happen.
913
00:49:48,240 --> 00:49:50,360
No, not this person because he's
here.
914
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,840
Sometimes it can work, but it's
got to make sense.
915
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:57,440
Like you got to give me some
kind of proven when we hired
916
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:01,240
Justin Fuente, when we when we
hired Justin Fuente, we probably
917
00:50:01,240 --> 00:50:04,880
don't like him now, but that was
a great hire for what he was at
918
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:08,280
that time, probably one of the
hottest names that Virginia Tech
919
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,040
went and got.
He just didn't work at Virginia.
920
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,920
I mean, he took us to, we won 10
games with him.
921
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,520
You know, he, he, he got us some
wins.
922
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,120
But he already has the talent.
He can.
923
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:19,040
He can make it.
Work.
924
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:20,640
Yeah, when he has the talent.
That is true.
925
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,160
So that is true.
Question real quick, go ahead.
926
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:27,320
Who were you on before Franklin?
Because it, it seems like for
927
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,040
you it was like as soon as you'd
be like, wait a second, the guy
928
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:34,200
who's went 38 and seven the last
three years is available, The
929
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:39,360
guy that went to the semi
finals, who was who was your guy
930
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,600
before?
Just wondering, Dan Mullen.
931
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:48,480
Like I said.
Here we go.
932
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:52,000
Here's the deal with me.
We're going to pay some money to
933
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:56,000
somebody.
We're going to pay somebody like
934
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,840
that's we don't want to, we
don't want to play funny money.
935
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:03,080
We don't want to go out and get
a coach that ain't done nothing
936
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,200
and then bring them in and then
fire him, have to pay his buyout
937
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,600
and then try to go get somebody
else.
938
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,640
Pay to pay the people that you
know going to do something.
939
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,800
Even if they leave in two or
three years, if they can get our
940
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:18,040
program back in the right
direction, then we can bring in
941
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:20,080
somebody else.
You know what I'm saying?
942
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:21,600
Leave it.
Leave it better than you.
943
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,560
Then you found.
It the arguments I've been
944
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:26,960
hearing is, Oh well, James
Franklin will come and then
945
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,480
he'll leave for a bigger job.
If he comes in and has two or
946
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:34,560
three great recruiting years and
we get ourselves in a good
947
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,040
position and we can bring
somebody else in.
948
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:41,120
But we got to, we got to get
ourselves in the right direction
949
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,360
first.
We can't just go out and just
950
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,400
play funny money.
Go bring in somebody we don't
951
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,360
know nothing about.
Like go, this is what I, this is
952
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,840
what I'll say to, to, to
piggyback on what Dale is
953
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,560
talking about too.
If you go look at now, this
954
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:57,880
ain't just me talking because
whenever I talk, then, you know,
955
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:01,040
some people say, are you just a
home or are you just saying that
956
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:02,240
because that's your team and
stuff?
957
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:06,000
If you go look at like big
conversations about what is the
958
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:09,520
best job available now, you
know, of course things are going
959
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,600
to happen.
People are going to be Virginia
960
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,280
Tech's up towards the top.
Like, people still regard
961
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,960
Virginia Tech as a football
school and a good school to be
962
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:19,720
at.
And everybody wants us to be
963
00:52:19,720 --> 00:52:22,760
good.
There's a lot of people who are
964
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:27,280
covering the football scene that
wants Virginia Tech to be good.
965
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:30,520
So I'm not saying that we can't
go get some of these bigger
966
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:33,800
names.
I'm just saying we look at
967
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:39,320
ourselves as this, I don't know,
this homeless crew or this
968
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,360
thrift store school.
Let's just go.
969
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:44,920
Let's go and make something
happen.
970
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,560
Let's do something.
We're better than a lot of
971
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:53,520
people think we are.
Like as far as the program, like
972
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:57,040
we just got new locker rooms.
We we, our stadium's nice.
973
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,560
Like we got some good things to
work off of.
974
00:53:00,240 --> 00:53:03,680
I know we need LEDs and all this
stuff everybody else is talking
975
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:07,720
about, but like a coach will
come in, bring in some players,
976
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,040
fix the program and we'll be in
good position.
977
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,000
Some of these people.
Got a lot more stuff to deal
978
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:16,280
with than we got.
I'm with that.
979
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,840
Brad as as we wrap up with Dale
here, Dan Mullins your guy.
980
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,560
All right, So innovative
offensive bond, I think that's
981
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:26,680
going to work well here.
We can recruit defense pretty
982
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:28,040
well.
Virginia Tech, we need to have
983
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:31,160
some sort of plus on the
offensive side in order to get
984
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:34,160
that thing rolling.
He's proven being able to win in
985
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:37,600
the SEC, had eleven wins when he
was at Florida one year.
986
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,240
Really good track record in
Mississippi State.
987
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,200
Does a good job of coming in and
winning right away, which is
988
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:47,800
what we need.
The UNLV, yeah, comes in, wins
989
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:49,520
right away.
He can recruit well.
990
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:56,200
He is showing the ability to
adapt based on his personnel and
991
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,440
just go out there and get the
job done.
992
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,920
I think he does a pretty good
job from a media standpoint.
993
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,840
I don't, I don't think he'll be
the boon of getting the big
994
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:10,560
money in that a Shane or a James
Franklin would be, but I think.
995
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:11,960
He's a hot name, though.
A hot.
996
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:15,120
Name, though, he's at that next.
Yeah, he's a, he's a, he's still
997
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:18,000
a big name coach.
He's not going to be at UNLV
998
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:19,000
next year.
No, he won't.
999
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,400
He's going to be somewhere else.
Well, this and Dale appreciate
1000
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,960
you chatting with me yesterday
on the timeline.
1001
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:27,800
Appreciate you jumping in here
tonight, man.
1002
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,840
And we appreciate you listening
and being with us and y'all be
1003
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:32,160
safe.
Appreciate that.
1004
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:37,240
Love that hat, Dale.
The blacks, we got blackouts.
1005
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,360
Training is Vito Vito in the
building.
1006
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:41,920
Good evening, gentlemen.
Can y'all hear me?
1007
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,760
We got you.
Yeah.
1008
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,680
You know me, I'm always on the
Xbox, but I won't be in the
1009
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,960
house just waiting to be camera
ready and shit.
1010
00:54:52,240 --> 00:54:53,760
So here we go.
Good evening.
1011
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:54,800
Good evening.
Good evening.
1012
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:58,240
How we feeling, Vito?
Bless mine, bless all right.
1013
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:01,880
Who we got?
Come on here and tell us who's
1014
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:03,360
your man.
Tell us, Mike Novell, your
1015
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:07,240
person.
Nah, I want to, I just want to
1016
00:55:07,240 --> 00:55:10,280
speak on the James Franklin
conversation like everybody else
1017
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:15,440
have really.
I, I, I mean, everybody pretty
1018
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,920
much here agrees.
It's it's only a a vocal
1019
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:24,200
minority of Virginia Tech fans
that don't like Penn State
1020
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:30,000
personally that get into the
whole that get into the whole
1021
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:34,720
Franklin conversation.
James Franklin is the most
1022
00:55:34,720 --> 00:55:38,920
qualified coach out of everybody
here been to the playoffs, one
1023
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:43,000
playoff games, one new year, six
games recruited to State.
1024
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:47,240
Well, he's he's done.
He's Frank basically.
1025
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:48,600
He's Frank Beamer.
Basically.
1026
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:53,840
He did everything Frank did
basically, except have a number
1027
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:58,880
one overall draft pick there.
We go and I think, I think part
1028
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:01,760
of the problem I think some
people are getting into is that
1029
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:06,240
they're having the difficulty of
separating whether they like a
1030
00:56:06,240 --> 00:56:09,320
coach versus whether that would
be a good coach to have a
1031
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:11,720
Virginia Tech.
And I think sometimes they're
1032
00:56:11,720 --> 00:56:14,040
like, well, I haven't liked
Franklin.
1033
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,280
I I don't, I don't like the way
he was doing business up in Penn
1034
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,800
State or things he said on the
recruiting trail about Virginia
1035
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:20,120
Tech.
But at the end of the day, we
1036
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:23,000
just need to win games and get
players to come into Blacksburg.
1037
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:26,320
Yeah, that's his job.
His job is to downplay Virginia
1038
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:27,920
Tech.
If he's trying to get a player
1039
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:33,560
from Virginia, that's his job.
People got to take, people got
1040
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:37,120
to take people got to take the
fan out of shit out of stuff and
1041
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:40,120
and start looking at things
logically.
1042
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:43,120
You got a coach right here that
knew how to coach a high level
1043
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:46,000
program.
And his biggest flaw was he
1044
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:50,280
couldn't beat the top three
teams in the country like
1045
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:52,480
everybody else.
What are we doing?
1046
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,960
Ohio State can't even beat
Michigan and they won a natty
1047
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:00,240
like they were about to fire
their coach nine months ago.
1048
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:04,480
Go ahead, go ahead, Sir.
No, I'll just say just like me
1049
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:06,360
and you was talking earlier and
you was like they was about to
1050
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,920
fire dude.
They was about to fire Ryan Day
1051
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,840
and then he went on a run and
won the championship like they
1052
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:13,960
was ready to get him out of
there because he can't beat
1053
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:17,840
Michigan.
So is that him not he can't win
1054
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:19,320
big games.
He won the championship though,
1055
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,600
but he can't he can't beat his
robbery can't beat Michigan.
1056
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:24,920
So it's oh shit, but they pick
and choose what's a big.
1057
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,800
Game.
We pick and choose with big
1058
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:31,960
games for who like once that
narrative come out on you like
1059
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:35,280
they pick and choose like Lamar
Jackson always beats Joe Burrow,
1060
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:38,360
but we decided that Joe Burrow
don't lose big games.
1061
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:41,680
So every time Lamar Jackson
beats Joe Burrow is not a big
1062
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:43,480
game.
But if Joe Burrow ever beat
1063
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:46,360
Lamar Jackson, it's a big game.
We pick and choose.
1064
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:52,120
Facts depending on whatever
narrative is running.
1065
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:56,120
So James Franklin can't win big
games, so the playoff games he
1066
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:59,160
won ain't big games no more.
Had he lost them bitches big
1067
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,000
games?
It's stupid as hell and and.
1068
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:04,040
That's your.
Guy Vito.
1069
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,280
You all I was gonna say, Vito,
do you got, do you got a guy
1070
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:11,360
that you would like to see in
Blacksburg outside of James
1071
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:13,680
Franklin?
Yeah, just anybody.
1072
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:15,400
It could be Franklin.
Is that your guy or who?
1073
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:17,560
Who would you want to see as the
next coach?
1074
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:19,520
I won't.
Whit Babcock.
1075
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:21,960
Not in Blacksburg no more.
That's that's all I did.
1076
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:28,600
Let's do that one.
Yeah, that other stuff don't
1077
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:29,680
matter, man.
I got to.
1078
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,720
I got to protect a black coach.
Man, I don't know if James
1079
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:36,240
Franklin even is black, but I
got to protect non white coaches
1080
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:40,080
because there ain't that many of
us allowed to even coach.
1081
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,080
So I got to protect, I got to
protect my people, man.
1082
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:49,120
I got to stand up.
That's all the black guests too.
1083
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:52,640
It's been an all black guest
shout out to boundary corner man
1084
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:57,120
pushing diversity.
I got to say this while Vito's
1085
00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:58,640
on here because he just brought
it up.
1086
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:02,960
I don't think a lot of people
understand and I I don't want to
1087
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:06,840
make it all about race, but
we've never had a black coach in
1088
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,800
Blacksburg, right?
If you get a black coach in
1089
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:13,320
Blacksburg, it's going to there
is going to be an uptick in
1090
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:15,440
recruiting.
I'm just going to go ahead and
1091
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:18,040
tell you I ain't going to go
get, I ain't going to just tell
1092
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:19,880
you going to go get any black
dude and bring him in.
1093
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:23,880
I'm just saying like Fran Brown
going to Syracuse caused the
1094
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:26,160
uptick in recruiting because
there's not a lot of black
1095
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:28,520
coaches.
So you're going to have some
1096
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:32,000
kids that are going to go and
want to play for a black coach.
1097
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,520
I mean, that's just what it is,
whether you want to hear it or
1098
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:36,200
you don't like, that's just what
it is.
1099
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:41,240
So now you talk about James
Franklin being a coach that is a
1100
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:43,880
high level coach and it's
coached at the highest level,
1101
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:47,640
which is the play offs almost
made it to a a, a national
1102
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:50,080
championship.
He's going to get some kids.
1103
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:52,080
So when people start talking
about, well, they ain't going to
1104
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:55,040
want to play here and they man,
you don't know until you try it.
1105
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:58,640
So I just want to throw that out
and kind of kill that
1106
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:01,000
conversation with people out
there saying he can't recruit or
1107
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,960
he can and stuff like if he came
to Blacksburg, he'll be able to
1108
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:07,200
feel the his recruiting classes
would be better than Prize or
1109
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:10,560
Fuentes.
I agree.
1110
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:12,680
With that man just off the mere
fact the mother fucker will
1111
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:15,480
bring some people with them
unlike the last coach from Penn
1112
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:18,240
State.
Bring some Penn State people
1113
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:19,360
with your game.
What you doing?
1114
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:22,000
That's one of the things I was
talking about earlier before we
1115
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:25,200
hit hit go live, man.
I was like, well, when we look
1116
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:28,680
at what pride did and what I
think frankly could do, it's
1117
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:32,160
like, you know, some of these
guys, when they move, guys move
1118
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:34,240
with them.
I mean, even Matt Moore coming
1119
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:37,800
in as an assistant, you know,
brought brought up the guys
1120
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,400
along along with him.
Like at at some point we got to
1121
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:44,960
look at why folks didn't follow
the train there, especially
1122
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:48,000
considering that a lot of those
guys that were at Penn State
1123
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:51,200
were, you know, probably was
their primary on the recruiting.
1124
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:54,400
So like why, why, why weren't
they following this guy at some
1125
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:55,720
point?
I'm sure some of that's a
1126
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:57,960
financial thing.
And I think at some point it was
1127
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:02,200
just a, you know, he, he didn't
have the motion to, to, to sway
1128
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:05,120
those kids to, to leave
something that they knew about
1129
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:07,160
and, and come down to Blacksburg
and give it a run.
1130
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:11,960
Yeah, man, shout out the prime,
man.
1131
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:13,760
No, I'm coaching it.
But no.
1132
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:15,200
But shout out James Franklin,
man.
1133
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:19,080
I want James Franklin.
Any other coach, man, I ain't
1134
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:21,760
going to disrespect no other
coaches on this platform, man.
1135
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,280
I don't.
I'm not qualified to speak on
1136
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:26,080
what they is and what they
ain't.
1137
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:31,760
You know, I just keep my ears to
the street and yeah, I want, I
1138
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:34,840
just want Virginia Tech fans to,
you know, open up their heart a
1139
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:38,280
little bit and stop being so
fucking hateful on Penn State
1140
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:39,720
because they ain't got nothing
to do with us.
1141
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:44,360
And just you know, take take a
look at James Franklin resume
1142
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:48,720
and look at everything Heathen
did over the last 11 years and I
1143
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:49,800
wouldn't even did.
Over the last.
1144
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:53,640
Three weeks, the man.
Been there 11 years and they
1145
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:55,800
don't.
These motherfuckers finished top
1146
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:58,440
five last year.
Shout out to Penn State defining
1147
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:02,040
the black coach for going
finishing top five and find that
1148
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:04,280
*** in a year.
Shout out to the South to Penn
1149
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:07,240
State because guess what?
The next coach ain't going to be
1150
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:09,400
Ohio State either.
So.
1151
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:12,440
Shout out to.
Shout out to Penn State bro for
1152
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:15,840
thinking they was them because
they put a good one on the
1153
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:16,160
street.
They.
1154
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:20,520
Ended with recruiting.
Look at them, they fired the
1155
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:23,200
black coach and he was winning
games.
1156
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:26,920
He was taking him to the.
Playoffs winning games bro, and
1157
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:28,960
I don't even know if James
Franklin back bro.
1158
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:33,360
He might be amigo but shout out
bro, shout out to him.
1159
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:37,840
Vito, we appreciate you jumping
on giving your opinion.
1160
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:41,080
As always, take care man.
God bless goody guys play
1161
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:44,880
appreciate.
Time, Vito.
1162
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:45,680
Alrighty.
Oh, gracious.
1163
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:50,760
There he is.
What's going on fellas?
1164
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:54,680
How we feeling?
Today, Maddie is in the house.
1165
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:59,080
I know you guys are keeping it
quick and it's running on a
1166
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:00,760
little bit, so I'm going to save
you all some time.
1167
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:04,760
Here's where I'm at, James
Franklin, Obvious choice if you
1168
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:06,800
can get them.
The problem is we're not the
1169
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:11,000
pretty girl at the dance.
And there's a there's a lot of
1170
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:13,360
people at this.
By the time that this season
1171
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:15,960
ends, there's going to be a lot
of jobs open.
1172
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:20,080
So with that being said, it's
got to be, I think Dan Mullen,
1173
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:23,200
right?
So every guy came to the dance
1174
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:25,000
and they said, I want the
hottest girl here.
1175
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:27,240
But at some point through the
night, you realize that's
1176
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:30,000
probably not going to happen.
And so you got to settle for
1177
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:35,920
that 6-7, not the dime that that
6-7 that you can take home.
1178
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:39,680
And I think Dan Mullen is that.
Hey Maddie, how many double J
1179
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:42,400
mods do we have to throw back
before we're ready to go home
1180
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:45,400
with that?
I mean, not many, honestly.
1181
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:49,120
I mean, it's one of those girls
that like, like, she has good
1182
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:51,520
conversation.
Yeah, but no.
1183
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:58,400
So Deb Mullins only real fall
and Shelton and you guys much
1184
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:00,880
smarter people to me can tell me
this or not.
1185
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:06,440
The only way that Mullen left
Florida was because of weird
1186
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:09,800
COVID times.
If it wasn't for weird COVID
1187
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:13,000
years, Mullen still at Florida
and he did.
1188
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:15,800
And he's doing fine at UNLV.
He still landed on his feet.
1189
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:20,880
Like he had good seasons at
Florida until COVID, and then
1190
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:24,760
he's on his feet at UNLVI.
Think that he's a perfect fit
1191
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:26,440
for us.
We're not the pretty girl at the
1192
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:28,720
dance.
Like if we can get Franklin,
1193
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:30,800
hell yeah.
Obviously number one pick.
1194
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:32,920
I would take him any day in
Blacksburg.
1195
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:35,400
But I just don't know that
that's going to be the case.
1196
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:37,920
So for me, I'm I'm with Dan
Mullen.
1197
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:41,320
All right, Maddie B ride with me
on this one.
1198
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:44,520
I like that.
Well I love you guys, I'm
1199
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:46,080
looking out here.
Save y'all some time.
1200
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:48,120
Appreciate it.
I appreciate it, Maddie, always.
1201
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:49,200
Appreciate it old man, have a
good.
1202
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:50,640
One brother.
Oh.
1203
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:54,400
Man, all right, this is going to
be tough.
1204
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:57,600
We asked him to like to keep in
between 3:00 and 5:00 minutes.
1205
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:04,120
Yo, what's up?
What's up, my guy?
1206
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:06,000
Not the.
White bit.
1207
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:10,760
Hey, the great show so far man,
I was just listening I said man,
1208
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:12,680
I got to jump on because I got
some thoughts.
1209
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:19,120
Hey so look man, Virginia Tech
got a coaching issue right?
1210
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:21,040
Obviously that's what y'all
talking about right?
1211
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:26,520
The the issue it's real simple.
Like I know Maddie was just
1212
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:28,920
someone talking about we not the
pretty girl at the dance.
1213
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:30,720
It's going to be a rack of
positions open.
1214
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:33,760
You know, it's, it's going to be
a lot of vacancies, but at the
1215
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:36,960
end of the day, man, like we
might not be the pretty girl
1216
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:40,880
man, but we got a nice outfit,
man, and we got some attributes
1217
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:44,320
that somebody may check for and
we may be able to become a Jenny
1218
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:47,000
Jones makeover type check.
You know what I'm saying?
1219
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:50,520
Yeah, we might, we got some
curves, you know what I'm
1220
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:51,640
saying?
We got a nice shape.
1221
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:54,320
We just we got a membership to
lifetime fitness.
1222
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:57,920
So we can you know, look, I'm
I'm going to be serious though,
1223
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:03,160
seriously, Virginia Tech.
This is why I'm not I don't mind
1224
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:05,880
Franklin at all.
I don't mind the guy from
1225
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:07,600
Memphis.
I don't mind Mullin.
1226
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:10,200
I don't only one when quest was
on here.
1227
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:12,320
Here's my issue.
Urban Meyer.
1228
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:15,520
He wins immediately, but I'm
concerned.
1229
01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:19,800
I still remember him bent over
having anxiety attack, panic
1230
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:23,280
attacks and he needs to take
care of his health man, because
1231
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:25,840
he takes winning so seriously.
He couldn't breathe.
1232
01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:29,800
But on a serious note, with
Virginia Tech got a coat.
1233
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:32,120
You know what's funny?
When I say I got a coaching
1234
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:35,080
issue, this what I mean fellas,
and I mean y'all, my brothers,
1235
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:38,280
I've gotten close to y'all over
the last five years.
1236
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:42,240
Virginia Tech needs a guy that
come in and coaches, man, the
1237
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:44,400
recruiting, the money, all that
stuff makes sense.
1238
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:48,720
But I'm you go back to the last
few years of the Fuente era, the
1239
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:52,320
timeout against Liberty, the
mismanagement of personnel
1240
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:56,920
groupings, ostracizing the in
state schools with the Texas to
1241
01:06:56,920 --> 01:07:01,960
Virginia hashtag, the corny ass
hard, smart, tough with the hard
1242
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:05,000
hat, you know, and then you can
you bring in Fuente.
1243
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:07,200
I mean, excuse me, bring in
Prague.
1244
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:09,720
He does some of the things that
Fuente refused to do.
1245
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:14,880
But clock management, loyalty to
players that should have been
1246
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:17,280
challenged.
To me, Virginia Tech's issues is
1247
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:19,840
coaching.
So it could be, it could be
1248
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:22,720
Mullen, it could be the guy from
Memphis who I like a lot.
1249
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:26,360
It could be another coach that
we might not know about right
1250
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:28,440
now.
It's really to me, Virginia
1251
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:30,240
Tech's issue comes down to
coaching.
1252
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:33,600
Like if you look at the games
they lost last year, one score
1253
01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:37,000
games if you're one in 12 and
one score games, if you win half
1254
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:39,280
of those last year, you got nine
wins.
1255
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:43,480
I think people are looking at it
from a name standpoint because
1256
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:46,640
people want to fans want to win
the press conference and they
1257
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:49,040
want to be happy with the name
Mullen and all of that.
1258
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:52,040
I mean, listen, we got a lot of
guys.
1259
01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:54,800
I hate saying this out loud.
We got players and I know people
1260
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:59,160
get mad we got players that's
getting overpaid at tech.
1261
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:02,240
Yeah, I'm, I'm going to say it
because I can say it.
1262
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:04,760
We got on.
I know people say, hey, man,
1263
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:07,360
that's the market today.
That's the market.
1264
01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:12,080
I don't care if it's the market.
I'm AI own two small businesses.
1265
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:16,200
I'm not overpaying anybody so
accountability has been missing.
1266
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:20,920
So to me bring anybody in that
knows how to coach and that has
1267
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:24,000
that knows how to get these
players to work hard.
1268
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:29,520
The fact that we had a terrible
offseason conditioning program,
1269
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:33,279
it was non existent.
I think fans hear me talk about
1270
01:08:33,279 --> 01:08:35,279
that.
I don't think people realize the
1271
01:08:35,279 --> 01:08:38,760
importance of running a program
and how it works.
1272
01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:41,040
Brian, you know what I'm talking
about Tally, y'all know what I'm
1273
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:43,120
talking about.
Like running a program, man,
1274
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:48,080
Like if so, when you talk about
a name, guys, we need a guy that
1275
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:49,800
knows that can come in and run
the program.
1276
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:52,200
All the other stuff, GM
recruiting.
1277
01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:55,200
You know, Curtis, you made a
great point about the brand
1278
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:57,359
that's taking a hit.
Some players ain't never going
1279
01:08:57,359 --> 01:09:00,479
to go for Virginia Tech.
Let me just remind people, Dre
1280
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:04,640
Blah from the 757 went to UNC.
That was in the 90s Lawrence
1281
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:08,240
Taylor went to UNC.
That was in the 90s Ronald Curry
1282
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:12,120
national Gatorade play the end 2
sports never been done before
1283
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:15,800
and hasn't been done since went
to UNCUNC.
1284
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:19,319
Penn State guys have been going
outside of the state since the
1285
01:09:19,319 --> 01:09:21,600
70s.
That's not a big surprise.
1286
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:25,760
But what you got to do is get in
state and guys that can come in
1287
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:29,399
from other areas that can come
in and contribute and play ball.
1288
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:32,760
That's what you need that that
know how to deal with effort and
1289
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:34,840
don't know how to like be held
accountable.
1290
01:09:35,279 --> 01:09:38,439
I mean, it's just the players
were telling the coaches what
1291
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:40,720
they weren't going to do sitting
out, you know what I'm saying?
1292
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:44,560
Like it was the shit is sad and
that's the issue, you know?
1293
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:46,920
So like, that's my stance on
this, fellas.
1294
01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:48,920
Like it is Franklin.
I can rock with Franklin.
1295
01:09:50,359 --> 01:09:52,200
I can rock with Franklin.
Well.
1296
01:09:52,359 --> 01:09:55,480
So everybody wants to know that
the the the link is back in the
1297
01:09:55,480 --> 01:09:56,720
chat.
Brown threw it back in there.
1298
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:59,800
But you mentioned the name and
that Shelton tile before
1299
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:03,080
Shelton.
Yeah, Yeah, Silverfield was my
1300
01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:04,040
guy.
And I know he's kind of
1301
01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:06,400
unconventional.
I know some people are scarred
1302
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:08,240
from the Memphis connection.
I understand that.
1303
01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:12,000
But when you look at the all the
group of five coaches outside
1304
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:14,160
of, you know, John Summer, who I
think, you know, we all agree
1305
01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:16,360
probably it's the best body of
work he's going clearly going
1306
01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:19,520
into SEC school.
I think Silverfield has the best
1307
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:22,800
resume and he's been, I've done
this for a few years now.
1308
01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:25,360
He's probably on pace to have
three straight 10 win seasons.
1309
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:27,960
You know, I know he built off
some foundation that was laid by
1310
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:29,840
Norvell, but he's done a really
good job.
1311
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:32,880
So he's my guy.
I just think I at this point,
1312
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:34,640
I'd rather go with a guy who has
previous head coaching
1313
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:37,080
experience.
And if we look at some of the
1314
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:38,880
power for coaches, it's kind of
like a mixed bag.
1315
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:42,160
You got Dan Mullen, who, you
know, got let go a couple times.
1316
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:45,840
He's at UNLV now.
You know, obviously Franklin's a
1317
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:48,200
great, you know, a great
candidate, but like, do we know
1318
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:50,400
even if he even wants to coach
next year, Like, not
1319
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:52,680
necessarily.
So that's cut.
1320
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:54,360
That's the reason I chose
Silverfield because I just think
1321
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:57,560
he has the best actual head
coaching body of work among
1322
01:10:57,680 --> 01:11:00,240
candidates that we could get.
So there you go.
1323
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:02,440
Y'all know I will.
I will rubber stamp.
1324
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:06,440
I'll rubber stamp Silverfield.
I mean, he's a guy that
1325
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:11,000
obviously when I was playing in
college, he came straight out of
1326
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:12,960
high school.
Actually during his senior year
1327
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:15,000
he was already coaching for his
own high school.
1328
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:18,360
Came to Hammond Sydney, coached
4 years at Hammond Sydney.
1329
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:23,160
He's a guy that's known he
wanted to be a head coach since
1330
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:24,600
he knew he wanted to be
anything.
1331
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:29,400
And I think that that's a guy
that you want as a coach.
1332
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:32,560
Now, whether that's a good fit
for Blacksburg or not, we can
1333
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:34,160
argue that till we're blue in
the face.
1334
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:37,200
But if you talking about a coach
and if you're talking about the
1335
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:41,520
best available or, you know,
possibly available head coach,
1336
01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:44,640
that's in the group of five,
it's Ron Silverfield for me.
1337
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:49,240
Back Hey, look, Florida, Florida
State about the Florida State
1338
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:52,440
that they keep that that Florida
state's lost eight straight ACC
1339
01:11:52,440 --> 01:11:55,960
games, right.
So they probably, they probably
1340
01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:58,000
going to be in the same
situation and I don't see things
1341
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:00,160
turning around, you know,
instinct.
1342
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:02,480
In, in, in.
Six weeks ago, they they smoked
1343
01:12:02,480 --> 01:12:04,000
Alabama.
Smoked I.
1344
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:08,160
Mean.
It's it's wild how how it seemed
1345
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:11,280
can be can smoke Alabama and
then it be at the bottom of the
1346
01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:16,560
ACC within 4 weeks.
It's crazy, but but but that's
1347
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:21,760
why I said to me, man, like what
I see going on and it's this,
1348
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:24,320
you know, this is a bigger
issue, but what I see going on
1349
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:26,480
at the powerful level, I'm not
going to mention the other
1350
01:12:26,480 --> 01:12:29,640
levels or even high school.
What I see is a coaching issue
1351
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:34,000
with programs.
Fuente was a very good coach
1352
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:36,440
when he first got here and I
agree with you guys and I was
1353
01:12:36,440 --> 01:12:38,880
celebrating him.
He was a hot commodity.
1354
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:42,200
He came in and did the thing,
but then he did it to himself
1355
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:45,560
after that.
But he knew how to coach and he,
1356
01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:48,040
you know, it was just some
issues with personnel and other
1357
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:50,760
things like that.
You know, pride came in, man.
1358
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:52,560
And there was a sense of
stubbornness, right?
1359
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:56,120
That's why I go back to coaching
because if you look around the
1360
01:12:56,120 --> 01:13:00,840
top 25, what I see with teams
that we're losing to is they
1361
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:05,280
have a better group of coaches.
Not to say certain guys on our
1362
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:07,960
staff don't know what they're
doing, but the other programs
1363
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:10,640
seem to have more direction.
That's why it doesn't have to be
1364
01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:14,000
a hot commodity name for me.
I think the name, you know with
1365
01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:17,000
your guys that's watching and
listening online on X and all of
1366
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:20,320
that, I think the name makes
people feel good, you know what
1367
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:23,160
I'm saying?
But like, to me, I just feel
1368
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:25,120
like when I look at the other
programs that have that have
1369
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:28,680
surpassed us right now in
perception and in reality, they
1370
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:31,120
just got better programs and
they know how to run their
1371
01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:33,320
program, not them.
We're not somewhat history.
1372
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:36,360
I'm not a Cowboy fan.
I'm talking about the here and
1373
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:38,600
now.
So like at the end of the day,
1374
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:40,360
those other teams, they got
better.
1375
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:43,240
They have a better sense of what
they are on, on and off the
1376
01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:44,200
field.
Man like.
1377
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:46,440
There you.
Go yeah, I just anyway, I
1378
01:13:46,440 --> 01:13:48,160
appreciate you guys.
Let me talk much too.
1379
01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:51,160
Appreciate.
You kicking Chris while he's
1380
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:52,240
down a little bit with that
cowboy?
1381
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:58,120
Oh, that's.
Right.
1382
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:04,600
Chris, Chris, Chris, Chris lit
up on one of my DMS because I, I
1383
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:07,320
don't even, I don't have a
favorite NFLNB A-Team, but I, I,
1384
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:09,920
I take time every now and then
to throw the Cowboy, but I'll
1385
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:12,560
throw the Cowboy fans, you know
what I'm saying?
1386
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:15,280
Because they really, they really
be going through it.
1387
01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:17,360
But every year is there a year
and they talking to their
1388
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:20,080
defense is horrendous.
I can't believe they lost to
1389
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:21,880
Carolina, you know what I'm
saying?
1390
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:25,600
But anyway, but like, that's why
I said gentlemen, I just want
1391
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:27,240
new memories, man.
I just want somebody.
1392
01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:30,200
I'm, I'm, I want somebody to
come in and give us some new
1393
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:31,560
memories.
I'm OK with scratching
1394
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:34,520
everything that we have just
some new memories, man.
1395
01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:37,200
But anyway I'm a jump off and
listen man, appreciate y'all.
1396
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:39,400
Appreciate Dwight.
Appreciate Dwight.
1397
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:44,920
All righty.
We're going to try to get Phil
1398
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:46,080
on here.
Right now it's not letting me
1399
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:49,560
add him because Luis says his
mic and cameras disconnected.
1400
01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:51,920
So let me go ahead and jump.
We'll get Josh.
1401
01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:57,080
Phil Phil gets his his stuff set
up.
1402
01:14:57,080 --> 01:14:59,120
Josh, what's going on tonight?
Not much, fellas.
1403
01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:00,040
How are we doing?
How are we doing?
1404
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:03,440
What's up, Joshua?
Whoa, whoa.
1405
01:15:03,480 --> 01:15:04,960
That's the government.
That's the government.
1406
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:09,720
Name Josh.
Here you go.
1407
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:17,840
So before Franklin got fired, my
top three that I kind of wanted
1408
01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:24,000
to see got Dan Mullen at #1 just
his track record, you know,
1409
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:28,200
Florida, his worst recruiting
classes at Florida would still
1410
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:34,400
put Virginia Tech in the top 25
recruiting #2 would be a Pat
1411
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:37,760
Fitzgerald.
What he was able to do at
1412
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:44,800
Northwestern back then, he was
able to turn them into Big 10
1413
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:48,640
almost power until, you know,
that whole like, hazing incident
1414
01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:50,520
came out and then just kind of
derailed everything.
1415
01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:54,360
They did say yeah and they.
Did.
1416
01:15:55,160 --> 01:15:59,240
Yeah, they did say that he was
exonerated from wrongdoing.
1417
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:01,400
Did he sue him or something like
that?
1418
01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:02,480
Brian.
Yeah.
1419
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:03,760
Yeah.
Yeah.
1420
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:04,920
He said.
He said he ain't.
1421
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:07,800
So hey, I just want y'all to
know we ain't going to throw no
1422
01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:10,440
slander on Pat Fitzgerald's
name.
1423
01:16:10,480 --> 01:16:14,480
He was not allowing dingalings
to be rubbed across people's
1424
01:16:14,480 --> 01:16:16,920
heads in the car wash just to
let you.
1425
01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:19,880
Know Ding, car wash go.
Ahead and the.
1426
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:23,160
Third one as just maybe this
dude just needs a change of
1427
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:25,760
scenery.
Luke Fickle at Wisconsin.
1428
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:30,840
Just maybe the expectations were
too high for him at Wisconsin.
1429
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:34,280
A change of scenery could put
him right back to where he was
1430
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:38,520
at Cincinnati when they beat us
in that Armed Forces Bowl and
1431
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:41,920
then making the College Football
Playoff as AG5.
1432
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:45,320
It's funny because you say that
like I feel like the
1433
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:48,880
expectations for a good
Wisconsin program are the same
1434
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:51,920
as a good Virginia Tech program,
but at the same time they play
1435
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:54,040
in the Big 10 and not the ACC.
So.
1436
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:57,560
The potential to get there is a
whole lot easier in Blacksburg
1437
01:16:57,600 --> 01:17:00,600
than it is in Wisconsin.
But can can I say something
1438
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:02,720
about Luke Fickle?
Because I'm glad you brought him
1439
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:04,640
up.
He he's not my pick by any
1440
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:07,440
means.
But the one thing about Luke
1441
01:17:07,440 --> 01:17:09,440
Fickle and everybody's like,
who's going to Wisconsin?
1442
01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:13,160
Look at Wisconsin doesn't
recruit the way you think.
1443
01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:16,200
They recruit like, like go look
at that.
1444
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:19,120
They don't have top 15 classes,
top 20 classes.
1445
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:22,160
They're usually down in the 40s
because of what they did all the
1446
01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:24,440
years under Alvarez.
Luke Vigelson.
1447
01:17:24,440 --> 01:17:26,440
Ohio got through and through
Ohio.
1448
01:17:26,440 --> 01:17:29,760
Guys pull from the Mid-Atlantic,
from Pennsylvania.
1449
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:32,840
Ohio itself is an unbelievable
football state.
1450
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:35,320
And when he was at Ohio State,
he was recruiting all over the
1451
01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:38,720
country.
I think for him, that was a bad
1452
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:42,960
cultural thing because where he
was centered all of his life was
1453
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:45,760
Ohio.
And it's a lot better, easier to
1454
01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:48,240
recruit that area than if you go
out to Wisconsin, which is kind
1455
01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:50,560
of on an island.
It's not as good football.
1456
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:54,360
So good point on that, Josh.
So are you, are you?
1457
01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:57,680
But now you, you said you had a
top three, but it's Franklin.
1458
01:17:57,680 --> 01:18:00,640
You're 1 now that that's I
don't, I don't know if I would
1459
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:04,320
consider him the one.
I would slide him into that like
1460
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:09,040
top 4.
I mean, besides him not winning
1461
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:12,600
big games or whatever, in a
sense, like Frank Beamer had a
1462
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:15,600
hard time doing that exact same
thing with Tech.
1463
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:20,760
It's just the fact of what he
was able to do in the footprint
1464
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:25,080
of Virginia, taking all these
the top ten state kids to go to
1465
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:27,800
Penn State.
Like if we could get half of
1466
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:31,240
that back to Virginia Tech with
a solid coaching staff like
1467
01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:33,880
Franklin would be like, in a
sense, like a home run higher.
1468
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:37,520
We just got to be able to throw
that that cash at him that we're
1469
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:41,480
supposedly supposed to have now.
So because he could see how that
1470
01:18:41,480 --> 01:18:42,760
goes.
But you know everybody's.
1471
01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:45,480
Signing.
Everybody's signing NDA's now,
1472
01:18:45,480 --> 01:18:47,040
so we have no idea what's going
on.
1473
01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:51,160
Oh, man, it's going to be all
interesting to have.
1474
01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:54,600
There's going to be a 30 for 30.
At one point on this, we had
1475
01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:57,520
Phil, we lost Phil.
I was getting ready to say, but
1476
01:18:57,520 --> 01:18:59,160
there is going to be a 30 for
30.
1477
01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:01,880
Well, realistically we should
have two.
1478
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:04,680
The one that's going on now and
then the whole debacle in the
1479
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:07,400
Fuente era with regular bacon
and Turkey bacon.
1480
01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:12,520
Man, the fact that we had to
have conversations about that
1481
01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:16,720
real, real, actual conversations
about Turkey bacon was kind of
1482
01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:19,440
frustrating for me.
Oh, a hundred, 100%.
1483
01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:24,440
A. 100 Well, Josh, I like the I
like you had two new names
1484
01:19:24,440 --> 01:19:26,520
there.
The Dan Mullen seems to be the
1485
01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:29,800
one where everybody's trending.
But I, I, I I like Pat
1486
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:31,520
Fitzgerald, too.
I think he's a culture fit.
1487
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:36,200
And what he did at Northwestern,
now that's completely upside
1488
01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:38,160
down, that is.
Oh, yeah.
1489
01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:41,040
So I like the choices, man.
And again, you jumped on here
1490
01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:43,520
with us about a month ago.
We appreciate you coming back on
1491
01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:44,920
with us.
Yeah, of course.
1492
01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:46,720
Thanks, fellas.
Take care, man.
1493
01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:51,440
See you.
Where'd Tyler go get Phil in
1494
01:19:51,480 --> 01:19:56,360
here?
Hey, damn, internet's a pitch.
1495
01:19:56,440 --> 01:19:58,280
Like, I feel like the search
committee right now.
1496
01:19:58,280 --> 01:20:01,280
Like just fooling around for a
light switch in the dark.
1497
01:20:01,480 --> 01:20:02,720
I don't know, man.
Did.
1498
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:05,080
You sign an NBA about.
It like, I don't know anything
1499
01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:07,960
about these coaches.
I know how hard it is to coach.
1500
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:10,480
I get it, I assume, but for what
they're paid.
1501
01:20:10,480 --> 01:20:14,000
But does anybody have any faith
in who we're going to hire as
1502
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:18,360
our athletic director, as our
GM, as our president of our
1503
01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:20,080
school?
Like, I feel like we've been
1504
01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:23,680
stuck in the past, like their
stats, we've been historically
1505
01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:27,680
bad for 50 years and mean it
might be time to just change
1506
01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:32,520
everything.
Like RIP it like the coach is.
1507
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:35,200
I don't know, man.
We got to have a better leader
1508
01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:37,080
at the top leading the whole
place.
1509
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:39,760
The Hokie Club is a mess.
I've said it before, it's just a
1510
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:42,240
mess.
And we're asking donors to
1511
01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:44,280
subsidize all this without a
plan.
1512
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:47,320
And like that, it just, like,
just seems like a total chaos
1513
01:20:47,320 --> 01:20:50,320
with Babcock canceling his press
conference for the second time
1514
01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:54,000
because of an NDA.
Like, I just would like some
1515
01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:56,080
clarity at the top.
Like if you're working for a
1516
01:20:56,080 --> 01:20:58,400
company and this is the
leadership, are you excited
1517
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:03,760
about it?
You mind, Hey, I'm going to
1518
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:06,160
apply for a job, but I don't
know who my boss is going to be.
1519
01:21:06,160 --> 01:21:08,160
I don't know who my boss's boss
is going to be.
1520
01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:10,760
And I don't know who my boss's
boss's boss is going to be.
1521
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:15,520
And my company might be bought
by another company or downgraded
1522
01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:18,920
or what I mean, is not important
in college football in a few
1523
01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:20,440
years because the conferences
have changed.
1524
01:21:20,440 --> 01:21:25,040
Like we got to get our shit
together financially everywhere.
1525
01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:29,920
Like, I don't understand why it
is so challenging to hire a
1526
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:34,120
dynamic person like Chris
Coleman from Texan was like, why
1527
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:35,840
isn't Jeff born on this
committee?
1528
01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:37,160
And I'm like, I never thought of
that.
1529
01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:38,800
You know why?
Because it's not my job to think
1530
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:40,600
of that.
But he thought of it and he's
1531
01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:43,400
not paid to do it.
Why aren't we making smarter
1532
01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:45,720
decisions at the top to run the
place?
1533
01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:47,280
This is my thing so.
That's all I got.
1534
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:49,880
Because we don't.
But Phil, it's your fault
1535
01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:53,760
because you don't want to cheat.
Use moment at the more, fill it
1536
01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:55,720
full of hookers and get a coach
up there.
1537
01:21:56,360 --> 01:21:58,120
Let him have a good time.
Doesn't help.
1538
01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:01,800
Anymore.
Doesn't move the.
1539
01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:05,600
Needle Like the needle anymore,
Tally, it doesn't move.
1540
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:10,720
The try some different ones, try
some, try some lady boys, then
1541
01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:15,960
no that no.
That's a that's an Elliott move,
1542
01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:16,800
man.
Don't do that.
1543
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:19,080
That's a different kind of
needle moving.
1544
01:22:19,640 --> 01:22:23,320
No, no, seriously.
We need better leadership at the
1545
01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:26,240
top, and we always have.
We haven't had strong leadership
1546
01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:29,680
at the top of our school when it
comes athletics since Torgelsen,
1547
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:31,200
and that's when Beamer started
rolling.
1548
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:34,680
He understood the importance of
athletics and we have not had a
1549
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:37,280
leader that really understands
the importance of athletics.
1550
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:39,200
He stumbled into an athletic
school.
1551
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:42,080
It feels like they wanted him
for research and to grow all
1552
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:45,400
that He's done it.
It's time to move on because now
1553
01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:47,320
we need to move on to something
more important.
1554
01:22:47,440 --> 01:22:50,840
So I'm flushed.
You make a good point, Phil,
1555
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:53,680
because it it seemed like over
the last two weeks, the
1556
01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:55,920
announcement happened.
It felt good.
1557
01:22:55,920 --> 01:22:57,640
Yeah.
Search committee sounds great.
1558
01:22:58,280 --> 01:23:02,640
And then shit got sideways
several times and I don't.
1559
01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:06,000
Like Brandon's mouth and then
the next thing we got, NBA is
1560
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:06,680
coming out.
You get to.
1561
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:09,040
Point back to one person, it's
always whipped.
1562
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:12,440
Who on that who on that search
committee has hired a coach?
1563
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:17,040
I mean, I know Bruce Arians made
Tampa hire their guy.
1564
01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:20,680
But yeah, I don't know.
I don't I just don't understand.
1565
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:22,760
Like just sit back and I don't
know.
1566
01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:25,080
And whit there when everybody
knows is the lame duck is
1567
01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:27,760
involved too.
It's not good.
1568
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:30,560
So that's my concern.
And my other concern is we have
1569
01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:34,720
the 12th best odds to win the
damn ACC champion to win the ACC
1570
01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:37,160
this year in basketball.
I'm maybe not as I may be overly
1571
01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:38,880
excited and I shouldn't be.
That's not good.
1572
01:23:39,160 --> 01:23:41,280
So we could be in trouble.
So but we'll see.
1573
01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:44,600
So, but thank y'all, keep it up.
You had some thoughts on the on
1574
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:46,440
the whip front that we had
talked about earlier.
1575
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:51,000
I don't know if you want to talk
a little bit more about that as
1576
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:55,440
we kind of wrap up the the coach
chat with some of the stuff that
1577
01:23:55,440 --> 01:24:02,240
came out with the NBA's and all,
all the all the awkward post BOV
1578
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:05,840
vote stuff on that front.
Me.
1579
01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:07,840
Sheldon.
Sheldon.
1580
01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:09,560
No.
But see, I thought I heard my
1581
01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:10,480
grievances.
Sheldon.
1582
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:12,120
What?
Sorry.
1583
01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:16,240
Sheldon's trying to watch it go
to the commies game and yeah, I
1584
01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:17,320
had to turn.
I had to turn the.
1585
01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:20,880
It happens.
Now I was I was talking about, I
1586
01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:23,000
know you had some thoughts on
the wit front, especially with
1587
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:25,880
some of the new stuff coming out
on the the BOV and.
1588
01:24:26,280 --> 01:24:30,640
Yeah, the yeah, No, I so, yeah.
So basically, you know, from
1589
01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:34,440
what I've heard, it's not the
most organized search committee.
1590
01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:37,120
You know, I don't, I don't think
they've, they've met a ton
1591
01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:39,840
extensively together.
You've kind of got like a
1592
01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:42,280
hodgepodge of people from
different areas, which, you
1593
01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:44,560
know, maybe can work by also
saying it might be too many
1594
01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:48,240
cooks in the kitchen.
And I was counting on one of the
1595
01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:50,600
message boards today.
It's like, you know, there's a
1596
01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:53,720
reason that athletic directors
oversee these hires because it's
1597
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:57,080
their expertise, it's their job.
They're trained to hire head
1598
01:24:57,080 --> 01:25:00,520
coaches and lead the charge and
take on that responsibility.
1599
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:03,720
We've got a situation where
you've got an athletic director
1600
01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:06,160
who's essentially neutered,
although it seems that wit has
1601
01:25:06,160 --> 01:25:08,280
actually had a lot more
responsibility and a lot more
1602
01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:10,200
involvement in this search
process.
1603
01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:12,920
Then I think people think that
they said he wasn't going to
1604
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:14,720
participate, but I don't think
that's been the case from what
1605
01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:17,960
I've heard.
And in in lieu of that, you've
1606
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:20,400
got an 8 person committee.
And I just think it's it's way
1607
01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:22,680
too many hands.
People are playing politics, you
1608
01:25:22,680 --> 01:25:25,160
know, saying, Hey, I'm only
going to, you know, consider
1609
01:25:25,400 --> 01:25:27,520
these types of people.
You know, I want this guy, I
1610
01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:30,200
want that guy.
Like it's just not it's, it's
1611
01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:33,360
it's not organized.
So I think when you get down to
1612
01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:36,960
it, the, the question people
should, should be asking is why
1613
01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:39,920
did we not let WIC go after
pride was let go?
1614
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:42,920
You know, we are, we are
essentially have, we essentially
1615
01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:45,600
have a ghost of an athletic
director who's, who's not
1616
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:47,720
participating, participating in
the search.
1617
01:25:48,040 --> 01:25:50,880
But also we kind of this I just,
I just think it's, it's a, it's
1618
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:54,320
a train wreck.
Yeah, it's it, it's, it is
1619
01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:57,760
definitely something that we're
it looks like there wasn't a
1620
01:25:57,760 --> 01:25:59,560
plan.
And and I think that's that's
1621
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:03,360
going to be a problem when it
comes time to hire is that, you
1622
01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:07,000
know, folks going places, making
moves, uprooting their family,
1623
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:10,400
all these different big changes
that take place when you become
1624
01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:13,600
a head coach somewhere.
I think you like to go somewhere
1625
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:16,800
that has a plan, not just the
money plan, but like a plan of
1626
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:21,360
what they want, how they want to
approach the sport, how they a
1627
01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:24,280
plan to raise the funds to get
you there.
1628
01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:30,800
It's it's just it still looks
like even with more cooks in the
1629
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:35,400
kitchen that it's still kind of
this backwoods mom and pop
1630
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:39,320
operation because you didn't,
you know, sack up and do the
1631
01:26:39,320 --> 01:26:41,560
thing that you needed to do,
which was fire wit when you
1632
01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:42,960
fired pry.
Yeah.
1633
01:26:43,440 --> 01:26:45,760
And and that's all I'm Tim
Sayings and I think it goes back
1634
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:47,960
to what Phil just said a couple
minutes.
1635
01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:50,440
Ago they were too worried about
keeping fucking appearances with
1636
01:26:50,440 --> 01:26:53,200
like well he's making this
presentation, he's asking for
1637
01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:55,120
money.
Can't fire the guy that's asking
1638
01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:57,120
for money.
Yes you can because he should
1639
01:26:57,120 --> 01:26:58,880
have asked for money 3 fucking
years ago.
1640
01:26:59,200 --> 01:27:02,520
That's the God honest truth and
and that's the bigger issue is
1641
01:27:02,520 --> 01:27:04,760
like, I think what Phil said was
perfect.
1642
01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:10,160
You truly need a president who's
all in on athletics right now.
1643
01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:12,240
He talked about Torkelson.
Look up Torkelson.
1644
01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:14,960
It was 2000, I believe he looked
before Steiger.
1645
01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:16,320
Is that right?
Shelton?
1646
01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:20,640
Former symbols before Steiger,
yes.
1647
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:21,760
Correct.
It was early.
1648
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:25,960
Yeah.
So like there are different
1649
01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:28,480
times that ebb and flows for
what you need for a university
1650
01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:30,160
and.
Great.
1651
01:27:30,240 --> 01:27:32,920
We're Tech's almost an AAU
school.
1652
01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:34,760
Wonderful.
The research is way up,
1653
01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:41,480
enrollment's getting higher and
all this stuff, and you don't
1654
01:27:41,480 --> 01:27:44,240
need that anymore.
You are in an era where you need
1655
01:27:44,240 --> 01:27:46,640
someone who is focused on the
college experience.
1656
01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:49,040
Athletics is going to be a lot
to deal with that.
1657
01:27:49,320 --> 01:27:52,240
Get that guy in here who's
willing to operate around that.
1658
01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:57,040
I didn't get to say mine yet
because nobody mentioned it
1659
01:27:57,040 --> 01:27:59,400
except somebody in the chat.
But the chat.
1660
01:27:59,480 --> 01:28:01,360
We're not letting you.
We're not putting your coaching
1661
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:02,600
stuff on you.
Come talk to us.
1662
01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:04,920
We'll do it tonight.
Sorry, I'm going to be an ass
1663
01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:07,080
about that, but I'll I'll
mention my.
1664
01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:09,120
Put your name on it.
Put your name on it, put your
1665
01:28:09,120 --> 01:28:12,160
face on it because I can talk a
bunch of stuff behind the the
1666
01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:14,680
the keyboard, but you come in
here and there are people that
1667
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:18,080
have put their names on things
and if they get hired and bad
1668
01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:20,520
shit happens, Tally said.
He's going to be clipping this
1669
01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:22,440
in a couple years and saying
it's y'all's fault.
1670
01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:24,280
That's who y'all wanted to be
the head coach.
1671
01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:30,080
But for me, I want Matt Campbell
because look what Matt
1672
01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:34,160
Campbell's done at Iowa State
the last decade, that thing.
1673
01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:37,840
Iowa State has never been good
at football ever, until Matt
1674
01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:40,400
Campbell got there.
His current salary is $4.4
1675
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:43,400
million.
I think we can double that in a
1676
01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:45,880
heartbeat.
And he is a coach.
1677
01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:48,640
Captain Dwight wanted a coach,
right?
1678
01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:53,680
He is a coach.
He's not CEO figure, he's a
1679
01:28:53,680 --> 01:28:55,240
coach.
Look what he did at Toledo.
1680
01:28:55,240 --> 01:28:57,880
Look what he did at Iowa State.
But he can.
1681
01:28:57,880 --> 01:29:00,280
But he's not a Fuentes style.
Where?
1682
01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:03,240
He's not.
He's anti all those other
1683
01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:04,360
aspects.
No, no, no, no.
1684
01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:06,520
He, he, he can do the media
stuff.
1685
01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:09,440
You ever hear him talk?
Holds good conversations.
1686
01:29:10,520 --> 01:29:13,400
And The thing is, much like
where FIFA went to Wisconsin,
1687
01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:16,880
he's stuck in Iowa.
You can't recruit great in Iowa
1688
01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:23,280
if you can get him out of Iowa.
I got $9.3 million reasons.
1689
01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:25,400
And guess what?
Iowa State's budget ain't
1690
01:29:25,400 --> 01:29:28,120
nowhere near that.
They cannot afford that.
1691
01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:32,320
So if you want him at Matt
Campbell would be your guy.
1692
01:29:32,720 --> 01:29:36,000
Ohio guy as well.
Let me ask you this, let me ask
1693
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:38,840
you this, all right.
So when you look at it, you
1694
01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:41,880
know, he, the, the recruiting
struggles are kind of
1695
01:29:41,880 --> 01:29:45,000
interesting because I mean, it's
fucking Iowa and you're
1696
01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:47,120
recruiting against other big 10
schools.
1697
01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:48,960
So you get, you get some of
that.
1698
01:29:48,960 --> 01:29:51,600
You get, you know, there,
there's, there's a lot of stuff
1699
01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:55,040
going on there that that can be
talked about ad nauseam.
1700
01:29:55,680 --> 01:30:01,560
But at the end of the day, can
he get recruiting to where it
1701
01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:06,600
needs to be in Virginia with the
in the state of Virginia in the
1702
01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:08,520
Mid-Atlantic?
Is, is, is he a guy that can
1703
01:30:08,520 --> 01:30:10,160
make that?
Like, obviously he's got some of
1704
01:30:10,160 --> 01:30:14,280
that, you know, Ohio River
Valley experience from a
1705
01:30:14,280 --> 01:30:17,760
recruiting standpoint, but you
know, does he really have the
1706
01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:22,880
chops to to come in here and,
and, and make some big waves in
1707
01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:24,720
the Mid-Atlantic from a
recruiting standpoint?
1708
01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:26,720
Well, that's what you'll, I
mean, that's what's got to be
1709
01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:28,640
found out.
Now, I'll say this.
1710
01:30:28,720 --> 01:30:31,480
Can I ask you a question and
I'll ask this to all three of
1711
01:30:31,480 --> 01:30:34,040
y'all.
If he comes in here and he goes
1712
01:30:34,040 --> 01:30:38,280
something like 11-9 and eight in
his first three seasons, you
1713
01:30:38,280 --> 01:30:41,360
don't think people will be
running because he's already
1714
01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:43,360
putting guys in the league.
Yeah.
1715
01:30:44,400 --> 01:30:47,160
I think with him it would be
more of if he came in
1716
01:30:47,160 --> 01:30:50,080
restructured and it literally
went like 7/8/11.
1717
01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:53,600
All those kids that I don't want
to go to Virginia Tech, wait a
1718
01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:57,520
second, kids go in the league,
They got big in IL, they're on
1719
01:30:57,520 --> 01:31:02,240
TV, they win in 11 games.
It just comes down to when it's
1720
01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:05,320
all shit.
Yeah, it just comes down to like
1721
01:31:05,320 --> 01:31:08,360
we saying, like if you get
somebody who can coach, that
1722
01:31:08,360 --> 01:31:11,000
comes in here, which you're
going to have to have the
1723
01:31:11,000 --> 01:31:14,000
recruitment is going to start to
do something because Pride was
1724
01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:16,800
not a coach.
I mean, he wasn't a head coach.
1725
01:31:16,800 --> 01:31:18,360
Excuse me?
I ain't trying to disrespect the
1726
01:31:18,360 --> 01:31:20,480
man.
He wasn't a head coach before he
1727
01:31:20,480 --> 01:31:24,960
got here and he came in and for
what he was, he recruited well.
1728
01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:29,840
You know, he didn't recruit, you
know, top of the college
1729
01:31:29,840 --> 01:31:31,720
leaderboards.
But I'm saying from Virginia
1730
01:31:31,720 --> 01:31:36,000
Tech, he came in, he built some
bridges and he recruited well.
1731
01:31:36,600 --> 01:31:40,120
So you don't think if you get a
coach with a name and a pedigree
1732
01:31:40,120 --> 01:31:43,000
behind him and he comes in here,
some kids are going to give him
1733
01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:46,960
a chance if you do.
And I, I don't know much about
1734
01:31:46,960 --> 01:31:50,320
Matt Campbell, but I know he's
from what I've watched over
1735
01:31:50,320 --> 01:31:52,840
college football, like he's a
good coach.
1736
01:31:53,240 --> 01:31:55,040
I know he puts together good
teams.
1737
01:31:55,360 --> 01:32:00,000
I know kind of what the identity
of the teams that I've seen him
1738
01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:03,240
coaching is.
So I can see him coming in and
1739
01:32:04,320 --> 01:32:08,360
winning those close games that
we've been losing because as bad
1740
01:32:08,360 --> 01:32:14,480
as we've been, look at this past
weekend, we've just lost to a
1741
01:32:14,480 --> 01:32:19,280
top 15 team, you know, by what,
15 points was it?
1742
01:32:19,280 --> 01:32:21,760
What?
Yeah, 15 points on a game that
1743
01:32:21,760 --> 01:32:24,760
we played horrible and we didn't
have nobody out there really.
1744
01:32:24,800 --> 01:32:27,720
I mean, I don't say nobody, but
a lot of the starters that we
1745
01:32:27,720 --> 01:32:30,800
expect to be here and A and A
and a fire coach.
1746
01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:34,160
So, yeah, you bring a good
coaching in to go play some of
1747
01:32:34,160 --> 01:32:36,880
these games and they start
winning a couple of them.
1748
01:32:36,880 --> 01:32:40,200
It's going to change the way
some people feel about the, the,
1749
01:32:40,800 --> 01:32:43,240
the university.
So Matt Campbell's a good,
1750
01:32:43,240 --> 01:32:46,280
that's a good that's a good name
to throw in at Curtis.
1751
01:32:46,280 --> 01:32:47,800
I hadn't thought about him.
Hey.
1752
01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:49,600
Steven will give you a pass on
that one, buddy.
1753
01:32:49,920 --> 01:32:52,720
Give you a pass.
But Steven, to to be honest, if
1754
01:32:52,720 --> 01:32:55,120
you had your kids in the
background screaming it, it
1755
01:32:55,120 --> 01:32:56,880
wouldn't.
It wouldn't bother us.
1756
01:32:57,040 --> 01:33:00,200
At least it wouldn't.
Bother me, Curtis.
1757
01:33:00,400 --> 01:33:01,720
I don't give a shit.
Huh?
1758
01:33:03,000 --> 01:33:04,240
What?
We used to do it.
1759
01:33:04,960 --> 01:33:09,120
We used to it 100%.
We 100% man.
1760
01:33:09,120 --> 01:33:12,600
We, we had some good names
tonight and definitely, and
1761
01:33:12,600 --> 01:33:15,480
there's still so many out there
that we, I mean, I mean, we, you
1762
01:33:15,640 --> 01:33:17,240
mentioned Shelton, you mentioned
John Summerall.
1763
01:33:17,240 --> 01:33:18,440
You think you can't talk about
him?
1764
01:33:18,480 --> 01:33:22,600
Because like the the thought in
everybody's head is Mark Stoops
1765
01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:26,000
in about 3 weeks going to get
fired and John Summerall's going
1766
01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:31,400
to get that job right?
Probably.
1767
01:33:31,400 --> 01:33:33,360
Yeah, probably.
Shelton.
1768
01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:36,800
I mean, Bulls probably going to
get Penn State at this point,
1769
01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:41,280
more than likely so.
You said who at Penn State,
1770
01:33:41,280 --> 01:33:43,360
Brian?
Rule, Matt.
1771
01:33:43,360 --> 01:33:45,000
Rule.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, they
1772
01:33:45,040 --> 01:33:47,320
definitely, they throw that name
out quick.
1773
01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:52,200
Well, yeah, but it's there's
still more to be had.
1774
01:33:52,200 --> 01:33:56,680
There's still there's right now,
if you asked us, if you asked
1775
01:33:56,680 --> 01:34:01,480
me, in my opinion, what Domino's
need to fall before Virginia
1776
01:34:01,480 --> 01:34:03,240
Tech can get their coach, it's
Penn State.
1777
01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:05,520
That's it.
That's the only domino that has
1778
01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:09,160
to fall.
When it comes to Matt Campbell,
1779
01:34:09,160 --> 01:34:12,840
I'm I'm interested because if
Fickle does get removed of his
1780
01:34:12,840 --> 01:34:16,160
duties, does that, is that where
Campbell is looking?
1781
01:34:16,440 --> 01:34:19,400
And they can pay.
So you know.
1782
01:34:19,400 --> 01:34:22,520
It's at that point does.
Fickle gets into play on the
1783
01:34:22,520 --> 01:34:24,520
board, like like Josh was
talking about earlier.
1784
01:34:24,520 --> 01:34:27,000
So I mean, you know, there's a
lot of different directions this
1785
01:34:27,000 --> 01:34:29,200
thing can go.
I think we got to see how
1786
01:34:30,200 --> 01:34:33,280
unfortunately, being in the ACC,
we're a little bit further down
1787
01:34:33,280 --> 01:34:36,280
the pecking order even relative
to schools that we would
1788
01:34:36,280 --> 01:34:39,120
consider ourselves better than
overall.
1789
01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:40,600
But they have to get well, let
me.
1790
01:34:40,760 --> 01:34:42,880
Let me throw this out.
Let me throw this out, Curtis
1791
01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:45,480
and Brian.
Yeah, and shell.
1792
01:34:45,640 --> 01:34:46,360
Shell.
Here too.
1793
01:34:47,160 --> 01:34:49,520
Shell too, shell too, but just
because y'all was talking about
1794
01:34:49,520 --> 01:34:50,040
it.
Sorry.
1795
01:34:51,200 --> 01:34:56,440
So out of the we don't have a
crystal ball, we don't know
1796
01:34:56,440 --> 01:35:01,400
who's getting fired, but out of
the football season and names
1797
01:35:01,400 --> 01:35:06,880
that we've seen that we think
may not end the year in stellar
1798
01:35:06,880 --> 01:35:11,680
conditions, who and take James
Franklin's name out.
1799
01:35:12,440 --> 01:35:14,880
And I would probably say take
Shane's name out because we
1800
01:35:14,880 --> 01:35:17,160
already talked about that.
But other coaches who
1801
01:35:17,480 --> 01:35:21,440
potentially will get fired this
year out of those coaches or
1802
01:35:21,440 --> 01:35:27,080
what schools do you think would
be a good fit in Virginia Tech
1803
01:35:27,080 --> 01:35:31,320
if we hired a coach that was
fired, that's not fired yet?
1804
01:35:33,280 --> 01:35:39,880
Like we say, Luke Fickle, Mark
Stoops, Mark Novell, trying to
1805
01:35:39,880 --> 01:35:43,160
think of some other names of
people who may be gone.
1806
01:35:44,040 --> 01:35:46,720
Hugh Freeze, I don't know, man,
he's very unlucky this year.
1807
01:35:46,720 --> 01:35:50,760
But Hugh Freeze, man, just I'm
just thinking of screw Saturday.
1808
01:35:51,120 --> 01:35:53,880
Night Hugh Freeze wears out his
welcome so fast that.
1809
01:35:54,680 --> 01:35:56,600
Everything.
They haven't been Auburn to fire
1810
01:35:56,680 --> 01:35:59,920
him.
Every game that Auburn has lost
1811
01:35:59,920 --> 01:36:05,000
this year, he has got screwed.
He made a deal with the devil.
1812
01:36:06,240 --> 01:36:09,120
I'm telling you, if you go back
and watch that Oklahoma game, he
1813
01:36:09,120 --> 01:36:11,360
got screwed.
If you go back and watch that
1814
01:36:11,360 --> 01:36:14,200
Georgia game, they screwed him a
couple times.
1815
01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:17,040
Oh, and I can't remember.
Who you ever seen, you ever seen
1816
01:36:17,040 --> 01:36:19,520
the ball in somebody go and
break the plane of the goal line
1817
01:36:19,960 --> 01:36:23,520
and somehow get ruled A fumble?
I walked in on that late
1818
01:36:23,520 --> 01:36:25,200
Saturday night.
No, it's just like, that's a
1819
01:36:25,200 --> 01:36:26,880
touchdown.
It's fumble that.
1820
01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:28,840
Would have been seven.
That would have been 17.
1821
01:36:28,840 --> 01:36:31,720
Oh.
It should have.
1822
01:36:31,720 --> 01:36:34,160
Wanted to have time and and.
And that would have changed that
1823
01:36:34,160 --> 01:36:35,400
game.
Yeah, everybody could.
1824
01:36:35,640 --> 01:36:38,760
And and if you say screw who?
Signetti ain't coming here,
1825
01:36:38,760 --> 01:36:41,560
buddy.
Signetti ain't coming.
1826
01:36:41,600 --> 01:36:43,360
Here I'd I'd love him to.
Come here.
1827
01:36:44,000 --> 01:36:44,800
We had.
Our team.
1828
01:36:45,320 --> 01:36:49,160
We fucked.
It up but but by the way,
1829
01:36:49,560 --> 01:36:52,040
Signetti is on the bigger and
better things my friend.
1830
01:36:52,400 --> 01:36:56,760
Signetti was a You probably
would have hired Signetti if
1831
01:36:56,760 --> 01:37:03,000
Fuente hadn't failed because you
were scared off of G5 coaches
1832
01:37:03,520 --> 01:37:07,840
with the whole Fuente situation.
And so you ended up going a
1833
01:37:07,840 --> 01:37:09,960
little more conventional route,
but you went a conventional
1834
01:37:09,960 --> 01:37:12,600
route that still.
Had the risk.
1835
01:37:12,600 --> 01:37:14,520
Associated with it because he
had never been a head coach
1836
01:37:14,520 --> 01:37:17,160
before.
No, but you know what he hired a
1837
01:37:17,200 --> 01:37:19,920
first time coordinator on both
sides.
1838
01:37:20,760 --> 01:37:26,520
You know, another one that that
like, believe it or not, 2021
1839
01:37:26,520 --> 01:37:30,440
was definitely on our radar.
And now he's he's likely going
1840
01:37:30,440 --> 01:37:31,920
to get fired in the next couple
weeks.
1841
01:37:31,920 --> 01:37:36,880
Billy naked and and and people
are going to scream now he
1842
01:37:36,880 --> 01:37:40,480
fucked up Florida.
I think Florida is the toughest
1843
01:37:40,920 --> 01:37:44,040
job in the country, Barnum, I
think.
1844
01:37:44,040 --> 01:37:46,400
Florida is a hard place to the
culture win.
1845
01:37:47,080 --> 01:37:49,080
It's a hard place to coach and
win.
1846
01:37:49,480 --> 01:37:53,040
It's also a place that thrives
on getting really good recruits,
1847
01:37:53,440 --> 01:37:56,760
in my opinion.
If you look at what Napier did
1848
01:37:57,120 --> 01:38:00,640
at Louisiana, that's usually
where you start telling if
1849
01:38:00,640 --> 01:38:02,160
they're a good coach or if
they're just.
1850
01:38:03,480 --> 01:38:07,840
He did it three straight seasons
down there, 1110 and 12 down in
1851
01:38:07,840 --> 01:38:10,480
Louisiana.
What does that probably mean if
1852
01:38:10,480 --> 01:38:12,040
you wanted that many games in
G5?
1853
01:38:12,240 --> 01:38:16,800
Because you ain't got the most
talent anyway usually.
1854
01:38:16,800 --> 01:38:23,640
You have a little bit probably.
Comes if you told me tomorrow or
1855
01:38:23,640 --> 01:38:27,400
fired Billy Napier and we're
going to hire and I know a lot
1856
01:38:27,400 --> 01:38:32,240
of people would be like God damn
leftovers, God damn retreads and
1857
01:38:32,240 --> 01:38:37,120
he just wanted the right place
and he just wanted the right
1858
01:38:37,120 --> 01:38:40,120
place.
That's that's something to
1859
01:38:40,120 --> 01:38:42,080
always think about.
Sheldon, anybody else?
1860
01:38:42,080 --> 01:38:43,480
I feel like you're reading
something.
1861
01:38:43,480 --> 01:38:48,280
Is anybody else maybe going to
be on the hot seat that if they
1862
01:38:48,320 --> 01:38:50,640
got fired, you'd be like, yeah,
he can come in and probably be
1863
01:38:50,640 --> 01:38:52,440
successful?
Yeah.
1864
01:38:52,440 --> 01:38:55,400
I was just looking at some of my
my coaches in the, the database
1865
01:38:55,400 --> 01:38:59,280
I built up.
I mean, I, I personally don't
1866
01:39:01,640 --> 01:39:07,160
think going after, you know,
sitting powerful coaches, in
1867
01:39:07,160 --> 01:39:08,400
most cases it's the smartest
idea.
1868
01:39:08,400 --> 01:39:10,880
When you look at some of the
numbers, it's actually not, you
1869
01:39:10,880 --> 01:39:14,760
know, the most fruitful decision
or like the most, you know, the
1870
01:39:15,000 --> 01:39:17,600
success rates for those coaches
don't are way lower than you
1871
01:39:17,600 --> 01:39:19,520
think they would be.
You know, G5 coaches tend to do
1872
01:39:19,520 --> 01:39:22,480
a little bit better actually.
So that's why I mentioned guys
1873
01:39:22,480 --> 01:39:24,320
like Summerall and sort of feel,
you know, kind of wanting those
1874
01:39:24,320 --> 01:39:27,280
guys more.
I don't know.
1875
01:39:27,280 --> 01:39:29,960
I just, I just don't know who,
who you would get like, you
1876
01:39:29,960 --> 01:39:33,720
know, Jake Dickert, Wake Forest,
like he doesn't have a super
1877
01:39:33,800 --> 01:39:37,920
expensive body of work.
You know, Fitzgerald's got some
1878
01:39:37,920 --> 01:39:40,920
baggage.
I don't know, like it's just
1879
01:39:40,920 --> 01:39:44,040
not, it's, it's not the, the,
the group that I would be really
1880
01:39:44,040 --> 01:39:46,640
targeting the most.
I, I, I for more proven guys who
1881
01:39:46,640 --> 01:39:49,760
have prior experience and I just
think you're going to find more
1882
01:39:49,760 --> 01:39:51,240
of those guys at the G5 level
personally.
1883
01:39:53,360 --> 01:39:57,200
What about Charles Huffman?
Yes, Charles Huff.
1884
01:39:57,240 --> 01:39:59,960
I, I think he was actually a
very good recruiter at Penn
1885
01:39:59,960 --> 01:40:01,760
State.
He was one of Penn State's best
1886
01:40:01,760 --> 01:40:03,400
recruiters when he was there.
So that's also.
1887
01:40:04,600 --> 01:40:06,400
You know, a plus.
Man, if you got to hear like
1888
01:40:06,400 --> 01:40:08,160
Charles Hough, you got to have a
good brain.
1889
01:40:08,160 --> 01:40:09,360
You see how big that man's head
is?
1890
01:40:09,360 --> 01:40:13,400
He's like Megamind.
Hey no, he played in Hampton
1891
01:40:13,400 --> 01:40:15,400
too.
Played in Hampton.
1892
01:40:16,040 --> 01:40:18,560
But you know, the other thing
with us now, if we take a look
1893
01:40:18,560 --> 01:40:21,720
at him is look, we did it
partial.
1894
01:40:22,080 --> 01:40:24,440
Somebody put on there.
He did call out the AD because
1895
01:40:24,440 --> 01:40:25,880
he said he wasn't getting funded
enough.
1896
01:40:25,880 --> 01:40:29,480
They're like, OK, he can leave
and next thing you know, he's
1897
01:40:29,480 --> 01:40:31,880
already having a good season.
He's already he's four and two
1898
01:40:31,880 --> 01:40:35,600
down at Southern Mississippi in
driver's seat for the Sunbelt,
1899
01:40:35,640 --> 01:40:37,200
that division.
Yeah.
1900
01:40:38,360 --> 01:40:38,920
I mean we.
We.
1901
01:40:39,040 --> 01:40:40,960
Knew this was when he left.
We knew there.
1902
01:40:40,960 --> 01:40:42,800
Was a weird situation in
Marshall.
1903
01:40:43,520 --> 01:40:46,000
Because of the way the previous
coach had left.
1904
01:40:46,480 --> 01:40:49,120
And then we saw what happened
with Huff.
1905
01:40:49,120 --> 01:40:52,960
So like Marshall have some
problems maybe even deeper than
1906
01:40:52,960 --> 01:40:57,000
Virginia Tech's when it comes to
athletic department structure,
1907
01:40:57,200 --> 01:41:00,200
having a plan, money, all those
things.
1908
01:41:00,200 --> 01:41:01,960
They've got some problems on
that front.
1909
01:41:01,960 --> 01:41:05,360
So like Huff leaving and moving
on to what was considered at
1910
01:41:05,360 --> 01:41:10,520
best, a parallel move doesn't
really, really surprise me too
1911
01:41:10,520 --> 01:41:13,840
much because it sounds like, you
know, they've got some some big
1912
01:41:13,840 --> 01:41:16,560
problems, especially in the in
the sport of football, if not
1913
01:41:16,720 --> 01:41:18,440
kind of across their athletic
department there.
1914
01:41:19,600 --> 01:41:23,080
Yeah, and, and we don't.
And the whole thing is right
1915
01:41:23,080 --> 01:41:25,360
now, what else is going to open
up?
1916
01:41:26,280 --> 01:41:31,160
Because Florida could come open.
Some people I've saw people keep
1917
01:41:31,240 --> 01:41:32,920
telling Michigan's going to come
open.
1918
01:41:32,920 --> 01:41:37,160
Man, this, this could be one of
the biggest years in terms of
1919
01:41:37,160 --> 01:41:40,320
just overall head coach openings
that we've seen in forever,
1920
01:41:40,440 --> 01:41:44,920
which is probably not great for
us because a lot of these jobs
1921
01:41:44,920 --> 01:41:48,160
are, are pretty high profile.
Whether it's in the ACC, there's
1922
01:41:48,280 --> 01:41:50,680
you're going to be a couple,
potentially a couple SCC jobs
1923
01:41:50,680 --> 01:41:54,200
open already.
You got a couple, you know, Big
1924
01:41:54,200 --> 01:41:57,200
10 jobs that will be open more
than likely.
1925
01:41:57,200 --> 01:41:59,920
So I mean, it's going to be kind
of the wild, Wild West.
1926
01:41:59,920 --> 01:42:03,000
I'm hoping that we are high
enough in the pecking order
1927
01:42:03,000 --> 01:42:06,840
based on what we can offer
financially, where some of the
1928
01:42:06,840 --> 01:42:09,280
other stuff doesn't matter as
much.
1929
01:42:11,200 --> 01:42:14,840
And then you got to think about
we, all we've had on tonight are
1930
01:42:14,840 --> 01:42:18,360
current head coaches, right?
I don't think we've mentioned a
1931
01:42:18,360 --> 01:42:21,520
coordinator, and I don't think
anybody wants a coordinator
1932
01:42:21,520 --> 01:42:26,040
hire, but there's also quite a
few head coaches not coaching
1933
01:42:26,040 --> 01:42:29,400
anywhere right now.
I'm very shocked somebody put
1934
01:42:29,400 --> 01:42:31,760
Jon Gruden's fucking name in the
fucking chat tonight.
1935
01:42:32,160 --> 01:42:34,880
No, no, it might be a little bit
more intelligent than I thought.
1936
01:42:35,360 --> 01:42:37,280
We did not see Jon Gruden in
there.
1937
01:42:37,280 --> 01:42:39,360
Thank the.
Lord, somebody asked about Jimbo
1938
01:42:39,360 --> 01:42:42,120
a couple weeks ago.
I do not want Jimbo.
1939
01:42:42,160 --> 01:42:43,840
Jimbo needs to get somewhere
like Arkansas.
1940
01:42:46,840 --> 01:42:49,440
Jimbo, Jimbo needs to go
somewhere.
1941
01:42:50,240 --> 01:42:52,720
I mean, Jimbo wears out his
welcome pretty fast as well.
1942
01:42:52,720 --> 01:42:57,320
Like we see him, he comes in, he
he starts the fire and then he
1943
01:42:57,320 --> 01:42:59,840
he puts it out himself and gets
the fuck out of dodge and let
1944
01:42:59,840 --> 01:43:01,680
leaves everybody else hand in
the ashes.
1945
01:43:02,320 --> 01:43:06,560
You mean to you like if, if, if
I'm the player's parent just
1946
01:43:06,560 --> 01:43:10,440
because of what he's done with
quarterbacks, I tell Michigan
1947
01:43:10,440 --> 01:43:13,880
like just go hire him for the
three you paying my son all this
1948
01:43:13,880 --> 01:43:16,680
money?
Go hire the the guy who could
1949
01:43:16,680 --> 01:43:19,920
put some quarterbacks in the
league because he has been a
1950
01:43:19,920 --> 01:43:22,120
good offensive coordinated
quarterback coach for the most
1951
01:43:22,120 --> 01:43:25,640
of his career until Michigan
comes open.
1952
01:43:26,560 --> 01:43:30,520
I mean that that that day it's
going to whim on what Underwood
1953
01:43:30,520 --> 01:43:33,320
wants to do.
Underwood's probably going to
1954
01:43:33,320 --> 01:43:38,240
get conduct interviews for that
head coaching position as much
1955
01:43:38,240 --> 01:43:41,600
as they're paying.
Luckily we do not have that
1956
01:43:41,600 --> 01:43:45,360
problem or unwelcome.
We have had that problem but.
1957
01:43:45,640 --> 01:43:47,960
Hey, just real quick, I want to
address something right quick.
1958
01:43:47,960 --> 01:43:50,120
I know we're getting ready to
get out of here because I see
1959
01:43:50,120 --> 01:43:52,600
Eric has joined the chat and
he's asking a couple of
1960
01:43:52,600 --> 01:43:56,200
questions about why people want
wit fired and he's made some
1961
01:43:56,520 --> 01:44:00,800
great highs and you know other
stuff besides football that
1962
01:44:00,800 --> 01:44:05,720
don't fucking matter.
Eric, football is the cash cow.
1963
01:44:06,040 --> 01:44:10,040
You cannot hire 3 bad coaches or
three coaches that don't work
1964
01:44:10,040 --> 01:44:15,320
out in football at most schools.
He can do great in basketball,
1965
01:44:15,320 --> 01:44:22,040
baseball, swimming, wrestling.
They are not generating money in
1966
01:44:22,040 --> 01:44:23,560
those sports.
For the most part.
1967
01:44:23,960 --> 01:44:29,120
Football is driving the bus.
You need AAD that is focused on
1968
01:44:30,240 --> 01:44:34,360
making what makes you money
better and he hadn't done that,
1969
01:44:35,000 --> 01:44:36,840
so he's got to go.
That's why everybody.
1970
01:44:36,880 --> 01:44:39,680
He also has not brought those
sports to a point where you're
1971
01:44:39,680 --> 01:44:42,360
at least winning national titles
in either.
1972
01:44:42,360 --> 01:44:45,680
Like if if we were, if we had a
couple national titles to show
1973
01:44:46,240 --> 01:44:48,680
for the fact that football is
falling the fuck off.
1974
01:44:48,680 --> 01:44:52,400
I think you could make a case
of, Oh well, he re prioritized
1975
01:44:52,640 --> 01:44:54,280
and we're seeing the fruits of
that labor.
1976
01:44:54,480 --> 01:44:56,440
We're not really seeing the
fruits of that labor.
1977
01:44:56,640 --> 01:45:00,000
I mean, more or less, with a
couple exceptions, the athletic
1978
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:02,880
department is only a little bit
better than his predecessor.
1979
01:45:03,440 --> 01:45:05,640
Top to bottom, there's only one
sport.
1980
01:45:05,920 --> 01:45:08,360
Yeah.
So only one sport that is.
1981
01:45:08,440 --> 01:45:12,200
But football is significantly
worse during his tenure.
1982
01:45:12,200 --> 01:45:15,320
So at the end of the day,
football brings the dollars.
1983
01:45:15,720 --> 01:45:19,120
Basketball and and women's
basketball were #2 there.
1984
01:45:19,120 --> 01:45:24,080
But the outside of a one run, I
mean, those, those teams haven't
1985
01:45:24,080 --> 01:45:29,520
really, you know, been world
beaters in terms of deep runs
1986
01:45:29,520 --> 01:45:32,760
and things that are getting your
your athletic program national
1987
01:45:32,760 --> 01:45:36,040
attention.
So at the end of the day,
1988
01:45:36,040 --> 01:45:38,800
there's not a lot to show for
him doing so good in these other
1989
01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:40,480
sports.
And football has fallen all the
1990
01:45:40,480 --> 01:45:41,280
way off.
I mean.
1991
01:45:41,280 --> 01:45:45,800
So yes, you got to get it fixed.
He did hire foot.
1992
01:45:46,360 --> 01:45:48,960
He also extended it.
He also didn't fire.
1993
01:45:48,960 --> 01:45:53,680
When it was time to fire, he
made a Really his hiring Fuente
1994
01:45:53,680 --> 01:45:55,920
was probably maybe the cherry on
top.
1995
01:45:56,320 --> 01:46:00,280
But as soon as all of Frank's
players left, all those old
1996
01:46:00,280 --> 01:46:03,640
heads got off.
It went like this and then he
1997
01:46:03,640 --> 01:46:07,080
had a Heisman type quarterback
that somehow he ran out of town.
1998
01:46:07,480 --> 01:46:09,360
Yeah, well, I think the other
thing went to him.
1999
01:46:09,360 --> 01:46:10,280
He.
Was a good coach, there's no
2000
01:46:10,560 --> 01:46:12,200
question.
About that.
2001
01:46:12,200 --> 01:46:14,600
That's the thing though, and and
what Dwight was saying earlier,
2002
01:46:14,600 --> 01:46:16,160
he's like the coach is
important.
2003
01:46:16,160 --> 01:46:19,360
Yes, that is, but he talked
about you still have to be able
2004
01:46:19,360 --> 01:46:23,840
to do the other things.
And one part of being a coach is
2005
01:46:23,840 --> 01:46:26,040
being able to recruit the state
that you coach in.
2006
01:46:26,360 --> 01:46:29,520
The other part is being able to
bring in money for the program.
2007
01:46:29,520 --> 01:46:33,520
If you can't do those things,
even even if you're not doing it
2008
01:46:33,520 --> 01:46:35,680
at the elite level.
Like one one of the one of the
2009
01:46:35,680 --> 01:46:38,480
things Pride did pretty well, he
hit the ground running
2010
01:46:38,480 --> 01:46:40,480
recruiting and he was able to
talk to donors.
2011
01:46:40,480 --> 01:46:42,520
Now, he didn't necessarily knock
it out of the park with donors,
2012
01:46:42,520 --> 01:46:45,800
but he was able to have
conversations with donors that
2013
01:46:45,880 --> 01:46:50,440
at least got the needle moving.
From a financial standpoint,
2014
01:46:50,800 --> 01:46:52,840
Fuente couldn't do that.
You can't.
2015
01:46:53,200 --> 01:46:55,920
You've got to be able to coach,
but you can't just be a coach.
2016
01:46:56,880 --> 01:47:00,400
Not not if you're if you're AP4
coach, you can do that at G5.
2017
01:47:00,400 --> 01:47:04,560
You can't do that in the P4.
Hey, I got to give a shout out
2018
01:47:04,560 --> 01:47:06,240
right quick.
I'm pretty sure it's my Barber
2019
01:47:06,240 --> 01:47:10,720
is in the chat tonight.
Dave the Barber is my Barber.
2020
01:47:11,400 --> 01:47:13,720
Yes, yeah, that's my Barber,
man.
2021
01:47:13,920 --> 01:47:18,520
Dave the Barber, that's my guy.
So he's joined us tonight at
2022
01:47:18,600 --> 01:47:20,640
Don't look at me right now.
I got to go visit him.
2023
01:47:21,200 --> 01:47:23,120
It was homecoming week for
Alabama A&M.
2024
01:47:23,120 --> 01:47:26,320
He was booked up.
Shame on Dave for being booked
2025
01:47:26,320 --> 01:47:27,400
up.
He stays.
2026
01:47:27,440 --> 01:47:30,720
Booked up today's.
Good, but that's my guy.
2027
01:47:31,040 --> 01:47:34,800
He put up Jed Fish.
I don't know, man.
2028
01:47:34,800 --> 01:47:38,840
I mean, I would like to see a
little bit more wins, but you
2029
01:47:38,840 --> 01:47:40,280
know, we'll see.
We'll see how it goes.
2030
01:47:40,440 --> 01:47:43,720
Not saying he and a good coach,
I think he's done a decent job
2031
01:47:43,720 --> 01:47:46,400
at the stops he's been at at
Washington now.
2032
01:47:46,400 --> 01:47:51,360
So yeah, that's another name
just that I hadn't hadn't seen
2033
01:47:51,360 --> 01:47:54,440
anybody bring up so but shout
out to my Barbara David.
2034
01:47:55,320 --> 01:48:01,040
Barbara David, All righty.
We got anything else to wrap up
2035
01:48:01,640 --> 01:48:03,000
tonight?
It's been a good one.
2036
01:48:03,000 --> 01:48:04,480
I love the discourse in the
chat.
2037
01:48:04,480 --> 01:48:06,920
I love folks opinions.
I love it when I agree with
2038
01:48:06,920 --> 01:48:08,240
them.
I love when I disagree with
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01:48:08,240 --> 01:48:09,680
them.
It's what makes it fun.
2040
01:48:09,760 --> 01:48:13,800
It what makes it a lot of fun.
Yeah, and I mean like even if if
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01:48:13,800 --> 01:48:15,960
we disagree what you're talking
about, I appreciate y'all
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01:48:15,960 --> 01:48:18,120
jumping in there and and letting
those opinions be heard.
2043
01:48:18,120 --> 01:48:20,240
I think it makes what we do more
interesting.
2044
01:48:21,040 --> 01:48:24,000
It does.
So we appreciate that engagement
2045
01:48:24,000 --> 01:48:26,760
and keep it coming, man.
Definitely, man, definitely
2046
01:48:26,760 --> 01:48:29,840
appreciate any time that we do
this, man, everybody's always,
2047
01:48:30,280 --> 01:48:32,440
you know, coming through with
some good stuff and some good
2048
01:48:32,440 --> 01:48:34,240
discourse.
So we appreciate y'all.
2049
01:48:34,520 --> 01:48:35,920
We appreciate y'all for hanging
in that.
2050
01:48:35,920 --> 01:48:38,760
We know how hard it is to stay
up late.
2051
01:48:39,000 --> 01:48:41,360
If you old like us, you want to
be in the bed.
2052
01:48:41,360 --> 01:48:44,440
It's starting to get cold, you
start to get that arthritis in
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01:48:44,440 --> 01:48:47,080
your knees.
But instead you stay up and you
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01:48:47,080 --> 01:48:50,040
listen to BCP.
We appreciate that.
2055
01:48:50,400 --> 01:48:52,040
We appreciate y'all hanging out
with us.
2056
01:48:52,040 --> 01:48:55,360
We appreciate y'all coming on,
putting your name on some
2057
01:48:55,360 --> 01:48:58,680
coaches, you know, being one of
the Co hosts with us today
2058
01:48:59,000 --> 01:49:01,760
because Shelton has been
preoccupied.
2059
01:49:02,160 --> 01:49:05,520
But that's OK, We still love it,
hey?
2060
01:49:06,520 --> 01:49:07,800
Jay Lane had a big catch, by the
way.
2061
01:49:09,160 --> 01:49:12,680
OK, Jay Lane in the building,
another person that we wasted in
2062
01:49:12,680 --> 01:49:14,440
college.
But shout out Jay Lane.
2063
01:49:15,360 --> 01:49:17,680
Shout.
Out Jay Lane with with that with
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01:49:17,680 --> 01:49:22,360
that wonderful little monologue
by Jonathan Talley.
2065
01:49:22,480 --> 01:49:25,040
I am going to wrap up this
episode of the Boundary Corner
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Brought to you by moments on the
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01:49:29,840 --> 01:49:32,080
I'm Curtis Wilson.
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01:49:32,920 --> 01:49:37,440
Jonathan Talley.
And I'm Sheldon Moss, Commanders
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01:49:37,440 --> 01:49:39,640
2422 looks like they're driving
again.
2071
01:49:39,640 --> 01:49:42,200
Shelton, you're you're rooting
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