HATE WEEK REDUX
HATE WEEK REDUX
Boundary Corner Podcast
HATE WEEK REDUX

Your boys Curtis and Brian break down what to expect on Saturday when the Hokies host the Virginia Cavaliers in the battle for the Commonwealth Cup. They also dive into some Hokie Headlines and make their weekly picks against the spread.

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Welcome back to be boundary
Corner podcast.

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I'm Curtis Wilson.
I'm Brian siglo Thursday night,

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buddy.
How you doing?

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How you doing, buddy?
I gotta sit down the glass.

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I've got eggnog.
And I've got some Irish whiskey

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in that eggnog.
Mwah.

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I can some football things are
good.

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Aw, geez about his perfect of a
December evening situation that

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I can imagine.
So I'm right with you.

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I've got a little little Porter
here, snowdrift vanilla porter.

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So that's a great winter beer,
man.

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Yes sir.
Great winter beard a have.

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There was that alarm kugel?
Yep, ha ha only saw a portion of

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the bottle.
Folks know your beer, 10/10 your

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Or beer, man.
How's your week member, man?

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It's been one of those weird
weeks where it's either really

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slow.
And then, like for like three

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hours, I would get like, a lot
of stuff that crosses my desk

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and have to, to bang some stuff
out.

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So, been one of those.
How about you, man, Pretty

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Petty, other than several
technical issues at work, which

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this time of year is never any
fun to be sitting there trying

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to make something process and
It's like air and you're like

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here, God go through, do it.
And then you having to tell

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someone yeah I told you.
I've had this back by 11:00.

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Might be closer to 1200 there
anything.

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Okay.
Just won't pry.

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Sorry, I'm waiting.
Nothing I'm doing, you know, and

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why we're going to have a
beautiful mid-fall weekend in

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late in mid-December This
weekend, like 65 degrees.

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So yeah, I'm like, I'm not sure
if I'm ready for that again.

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Like, I'm one of those people
that once I get in a certain

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mindset, I kind of like to plow
ahead so these like fake fake

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Falls and then like in the
spring, where you get like that,

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like late February, you get that
one really warm day, right

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nowhere.
But then it, you know, you two

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more weeks of 20 degrees like we
do, I like that.

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Other stuff.
Yeah, I don't really like I

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don't really like it but you
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which I hate and be.
It's just like my body says,

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it's winter.
Yeah, my body.

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It's winter.
It needs to be winter.

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There needs to be, is no, it
needs to be cold.

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It is, it's like you've thrown
me a day in the 60s.

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I've already burned all my
hoodie's, I can't go back.

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A burn, the hoodies.
I put the shorts away.

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Which I have put the shorts.
What?

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Except I found a pair of the
other night in my bathroom

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underneath some things.
So maybe, you know, Karma.

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It was being going to need this
one.

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We're going to need, you know,
on that weirder than still wear

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shorts, like all winter though.
Although you did, I agree.

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But I mean, it gets to a point
where I'm like, nah, I'm good.

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As long as I know.
I'm not going to be out more

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than like five minutes.
Like I'm just getting into my

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car driving around out of my car
into a building.

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Like, you know, that's not cold
enough for me to sacrifice

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comfort.
Awesome.

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Well, folks, obviously it is
hate.

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We here on the boundary Corner
podcast, as the Hokies this week

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will be battling UVA for the
don't know what is going to be

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the number.
A big number for the

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Commonwealth cup.
Yep.

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Trying to take it back after
losing for the first time.

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Since 2003 eight-week part to
head up, we had a teaser earlier

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and now we're, you know, that
got that got pushed back.

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So, now we're officially in.
Hey, tweek it is happening.

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Ladies and gentlemen, the game
will be played the governor's

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announcement earlier, did not
change that, despite some

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whisperings and dark corners of
the interwebs.

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We are plowing ahead with this
game.

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Yeah, so I mean that's where
we're at in hate week, just to

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recap a little bit guys, we saw
a big stinker from for Mike

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Young and the Gang against Penn
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That was brutal to a point.
I was going to follow it on my

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phone.
I kept the TV on the main cave

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to Peak in every few minutes as
I was watching something with my

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wife, and we were doing
something and I kind of lost

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track of the game, it started
when one I looked down, it was

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2:43 and it was just like,
that's not good.

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That's not how you want to start
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Yeah, that it started bad.
And then it just kept getting

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gradually worse and Penn State
had one of those nights where

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like, the Hokies played a bad
game.

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Don't get me wrong.
Bad game.

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Had a bad shooting night.
What wasn't very active on the

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defensive end?
But Penn State had one of those

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magical shooting nights were
like everything.

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They threw up, was falling.
Yeah, everything they threw up

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was falling.
I mean, they were legitimately

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be percent from the field.
So, you know, just from the

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field like they couldn't miss.
They went out a little bit

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further.
Hey, man, I don't know if you

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saw this, but from three-point
range, they were 52 percent.

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Yep.
So it was one of those nights I

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can't win.
They have a bad possession and

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then get bailed out.
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Hokies were doing the right
thing, they were still getting

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burned.
So yeah.

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Back to the drawing board to
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again, you can't can't score 55
points and expect to win many

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games.
You can't shoot under 40 under

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30 from three and fifty percent
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Line.
I mean, just awful awful.

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But I think you know, after two
stinkers like that, you know,

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have faith, you know, in mi
kyung that he can pull it

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together.
No law of averages, says the

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shooting percentage is going to
go up a little bit so it's true

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and we'll find out a lot Tuesday
night.

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Yeah I agree we'll find out a
lot to do not against Clemson.

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I mean Clemson's for know, they
beat Maryland.

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They beat Purdue, they beat
Mississippi State.

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Obviously Purdue in Maryland,
being usually two of your top,

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25 teams out of the Big Ten so
we'll find out more.

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Do they bounce back or they kind
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it's almost last year, it was
the loss to Michigan State.

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Then they lost the next few
games to Dayton and BYU who were

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going to be tournament teams.
But it continue the downward

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spiral this year, the big win
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The Solid second one, the solid
went after happens, then they

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start hitting the skids a little
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So yeah.
And like I said, I think I'll be

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encouraging is that at least
against VMI, it was just

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shooting and against Penn State,
regardless of how they shot,

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they were probably losing that
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But based on how Penn State was
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So, I mean, there's a, there's
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in the country that would have
beat Penn State when they were

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shooting like that.
So at that point, you know, it's

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still early.
Early.

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Let's not get discouraged by the
laws, especially after how you

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started.
Yep.

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Keep plugging ahead try to fix.
What's what's a little sketchy?

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They like I said, as I care more
about the stuff I saw on the

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defensive end and the the
rotations than I do about

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anything that happened on the
offensive end, they did pretty

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well on the boards All Things
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So yeah if they can just hit
some shots which I think will

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eventually come, they'll be fine
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I'd like to see them clean up
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though.
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All right, before we get deep
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and we're not going to be, you
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down because it again similar to
lab.

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This is our most hated rival,
probably the team we see the

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second most of living here in
the Commonwealth, we're going to

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do strengths and weaknesses of
both sides of their ball with

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data and some tape right now.
But Brian, I'm gonna ask you a

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question.
Give me your honest opinion.

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If Justin Fuente brings back,
the Commonwealth cup, what makes

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the Commonwealth cup stay in
Blacksburg?

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Does he save his job?
Absolutely not.

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That's a firm.
No.

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Okay, and I say from this
perspective we've gotten to a

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point now where you know there
was excuses and there was reason

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to potentially say this might
get better with more time.

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But I think we're past the point
where regardless of what a

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win-loss record looks like in a
given year.

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Justin Fuente is not going to be
the coach that gets us.

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Lead to the ACC Championship
game, gets us over the hump

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against Clemson, potentially
gets us a future shot in at the

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college football playoff.
He's not that guy and if we know

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that and we know that we're
going to have these weird

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Seasons where we win five or six
games and then we're going to

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have a couple Seasons where you
might win, eight or nine, I

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don't think that's good enough
and that, that doesn't stand up

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to the expectations.
We had for him as a coach and I

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think that now we know that we
need to move on.

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Yep, this isn't a situation.
Someone mean, you chatted with

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this week, I can't remember who
it was, was trying to compare

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this to the Harbaugh situation
and I sat here and when that

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conversation I said if Justin
Fuente was 21 and 11 over his

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last 23 Seasons, hell no, we
wouldn't be fired him because he

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would have been waiting
somewhere between nine and ten

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Gaming's before this season
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It would be a completely
different story.

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You can't put that in with her
ball because Harbaugh had one

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ten and nine games.
Harbaugh's problem is that he's

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losing the Ohio state every
year.

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That pretty much never gives him
a chance to play for the Big Ten

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Championship true.
Now, the other piece is this the

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end?
I've got to record right here.

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Justin Fuente started the
10-year out 19 and eight I think

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after 2017.
I think being you felt good

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after 18, it was skepticism
after Duke skepticism but you

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saw the rebound more fact.
But then seeing it reasonable,

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it's almost like the snowball
that went into a good Avalanche.

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Got somewhere where it's
stopped.

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But then something happened
behind it, and shook it loose

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and it started rolling, he's 18
and 18.

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It is like true citizens.
He's 500.

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Yeah, that's not good.
That and that's not what we

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signed up for.
That's not what we signed up for

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it all again.
I think our expectations were

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somewhere between 8:00 and 11:00
every year and we got that three

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seasons.
But what happened is as we've

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mentioned numerous times, it's
where the losses come to who the

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laws has come to its games where
you're looking like, you're not

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even putting up a fight, it's
games where you looking like,

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you have no answers.
And when that's happening too

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many times, the no answer games,
not so much.

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You know, somebody pulls an
upset to my pulls.

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I'm upset tip your hat to them.
It's the games, when there

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aren't answers where it's like,
okay, do something different.

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We keep doing the same.
Why are we doing the same thing?

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It's Working and I think that's
where we're at again.

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I've said it before and I'll
stick to this, if not for him, a

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lot of things that are, that
were not good with in the

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program, don't get reflected.
Thank you for that and hopefully

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him doing that.
You're able to wit in the

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athletic department, as they
start, looking through the next

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head coach will be in saying, we
know these are out of fish.

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Entities.
Here's how we're going to fix

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them for you.
Yeah.

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And what do you want to do to
put your stamp on this?

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Yeah but I think on the whole
he's ultimately leaving the

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program about at the same level
that he found it.

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I think from a brand
perspective, our brand isn't

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quite as good as it was when he
took over.

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But I think because of Shining
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need to improve, I think we're
taking some steps where we need

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to Ratchet it up.
And I think that ultimately, you

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know, cancels out some of the
brand losses there.

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So you know, well, I think I've
got zero so you know, he didn't

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completely run the program into
the ground.

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I mean the big problem right now
is because of everything else

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happening is that Donors are
getting antsy and donors want

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answers and I think donors are
getting what they want.

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So exactly the other pieces You
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know Public Image level
perception level yeah is

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slightly down but right I went
to a slightly down View and

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perception knowing that you're
going to get what you need

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operationally.
It's not sexy, it's not saying

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oh we're you know, we're winning
10 letting games a year.

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It's not safe.
Sexy and it doesn't all happen

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overnight either.
So it's a, it's a slow, build up

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more on, but the whole piece is
you get that in place.

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You get back to where you were,
you get back to competing for

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the ACC.
You get back to weighing 10, 11

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games every year and as nice as
the brand is, I think the new

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coach would appreciate the other
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Damn, right.
All right, well, let's jump to

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it folks.
Time for a little break down

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here of the UV 18.
Let's start with their defense

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when I was just doing the data
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I look first at their strengths
and I'm gonna run off three to

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you here.
And you tell me if this is

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correlating, what you're seeing
on tape.

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First of all, they are basically
top corner of the country

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rushing defense.
Why they're only giving up a

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hundred twenty, five point nine
yards, a game 3.49 a carry right

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against one of our biggest.
strengths they're up there and

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sax number nine in the country
33 total sacks for the year and

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also the are forcing a ton of
turnovers 17 total Six fumbles,

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11 picks top 15 and that.
So kind of seems like they're

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doing some very good things on
defense.

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So what are you?
It does the tape show this or is

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the tape a little more.
You know, the tape definitely

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Bears out exactly what those
stats are showing and I'm going

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to I'm going to name three names
and one of them we do not have

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to deal with.
So I'll start with the one we do

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have to deal with Charles
Snowden.

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Yes.
For most of the Season, Charles

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Snowden was giving offenses,
fits.

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Yep.
Yeah, six foot, seven Edge

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rusher.
Great speed.

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Great athleticism hits you with
a low to so not having to deal

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with that coming off the edge.
The problem with that is that we

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do have to deal with Noah
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He was lining up opposite of
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He's now their primary Edge
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the dude, but Noah Taylor is no
slouch as well.

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And still gonna have to stop him
from getting to the quarterback.

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Is he's going to come hard and
Zane's endear is the inside.

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Linebacker for them big player
in the middle of that defense.

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Kind of an enforcer in the
middle.

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Really good run Stoppers.
He's the guy that's getting

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tackles for laws.
He's kind of packing the stat

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sheet in the tackle column as
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So you know they're going to do
a lot of things to kind of slow

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down our Length, which is our
running game, whether it's

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painting the ball to Khalil
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quarterbacks up the middle, or
on the outside.

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All right.
So we talked about that, we

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talked about they forced
turnovers but they have

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weaknesses hum as good as they
are at sacking the quarterback.

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I was shocked by this number,
they are absolutely Dreadful

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against passing.
I'm talking quarterback passing

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efficiency there, 153 out of
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They almost average 15 yards per
completion.

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They are the most passing yards
allowed in the country.

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Now I know they play nine games
and there are some other teams

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that haven't played as many, but
there's enough teams.

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There's enough teams out there
that have played more than eight

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games.
It just shows something.

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They're also 62 percent
completion so you know That's a

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that's not a good number.
Your, you want to be

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substituting as a defense also.
Really big and allowing first

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downs.
You know, they are averaged

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nearly giving up twenty first
downs, a game, you know, 86 in

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the country.
So on the bottom, half of that,

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the Brian a couple of the things
that they aren't Really.

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But our weaknesses, but they
aren't really great at, you

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know, third down, conversions,
39.8, that's a big Bugaboo of

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the Hokie, so right under 40%
and then the other is they're

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giving up 30 points a game,
okay?

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So, you know, paired the Hokies
defense, we're giving up like

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30, I think 32.1.
And obviously I think I think we

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feel like we've had more issues
than they have.

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So it ain't all sunshine and
Roses on their defaults.

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No, and I mean the big thing is
how we feel.

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We are in the back end, man.
They don't tackle great on the

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back end in the passing game.
They actually do pretty good job

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from the safety position,
filling up in the run, but they

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end up missing a lot of tackles
with with guys that are elusive

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in space.
UNC game.

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I mean UNC just ran out of time.
What if they had?

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You know, one more stop.
They were going to win that

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game.
I mean, they stopped the fake

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punt.
Yeah.

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They when they game and
Thompson, did it just a great

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individual effort on that?
You know, you're getting off

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topic here?
A little bit.

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Just that was designed to go,
right?

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And he went left, cutting it
back and got there.

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So but the yeah, they're weak on
the back end.

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Like I said, struggles, with
tackles bunch of Chunk plays

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crossers, seems Deep shots on
the edge.

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I mean there It shouldn't be a
route in our repertoire that we

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shouldn't be able to exploit
them with in some way.

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The question is, do we take
advantage of that?

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If we can stop?
The big thing is we can stop

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them getting to our quarterback
or making our quarterback have

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to throw before.
He's ready.

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That's where that secondary gets
good because they are

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opportunistic.
So that they're out, they're

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opportunistic, but they are very
suspect that as long as long as

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we can make good decisions, With
the ball in the passing game.

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We should be fine.
That's what I was going to kind

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of ask is how can you have that
many interceptions?

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That many sacks would be that
pad in the passing game and it

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sounds like what it is is when
they force essentially the throw

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to go early or forced to throw
to the wrong spot or rush to

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throw that's when they're
getting their picks.

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When the pocket stays clean,
people are just carving them

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including be seized back up.
It went.

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What 502 last week, yes.
You know, we can put up 300

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plus, you know, one of those
things, I feel like if we don't

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put up over 270 but we shall
move on anything else on the

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defensive side, you want to hit
Brian before we jump over to the

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offensive side of the ball.
Yeah, I mean, I think, in terms

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of like how we would attack it,
I mean, from a passing game

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perspective, I think we should
kind of pass the set up the run.

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I think we need to not just work
in the short, intermediate stuff

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that I've been pounding on a
lot.

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A lie but also we need to take
some shots.

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Stretch them, we need to make
them work for it but we need to

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be strategic with our shots.
We don't want to put the

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quarterback back there for you
know, 45 seconds.

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Waiting for routes to develop
before you can get rid of it

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with, you know, Noah Taylor and
zhen zhen zhen, dear bearing

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down on them.
So that's what I would.

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I would do to kind of start
things up, and then once they

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loosen up a little bit and have
to start pulling some of those,

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those safeties out of the box,
And that's when we can start

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with the running game and
pounding them a little bit and

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kind of eating them up between
the tackles.

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Now, when you talk about Not
Giving 45 seconds, is this

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something where you're thinking
about the alignments, where, you

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know the gold is going to be
filled side.

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We're going to put three guys,
and we're going to be one guy

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down here, your high safety.
Has to make a decision because

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if he chooses to come over here
and going to help.

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You're allowing three routes to
develop on this side where most

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of the time in those cases, you
tell me if I'm right or wrong,

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we're going to put our best
corner on this side, free

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safety.
You're going to go to the other

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hash don't worry about that
side.

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He's got the out of bounds as
down.

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Is his extra Defender I think
you want to try to isolate you

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know if you got man coverage you
read man coverage kind of

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isolate where that Where that
safety is going to be shading to

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and kind of attack opposite
that.

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That way you can throw the ball
earlier in the route and just

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thinking it could be a 50/50
type situation versus having to

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wait for a guy to come.
Open on top of that.

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I'd like to see some of the RPO
stuff just because that's going

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to slow down that pass rush a
little bit.

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If you can work some of those in
there, should be able to take

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some shots up the scenes, maybe
throw a fade out of that.

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All right.
Well let's hope so my burn the

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Excel spreadsheet.
Then this week.

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Did you burn the Excel?
Spreadsheets at the end of the

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week.
Anyway, looking for items items.

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A weakness, believe it or not.
Kind of shocked me they're

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passing offense is actually
really a strength of there's you

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know averaging 260 a game about
12 yards per completions that's

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kind of impressive, losing
Armstrong for the games that

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they did.
You know, the only slight hiccup

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is they are only averaging about
58 percent completion.

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I'm have a feeling.
You might be able to tell me why

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on that in a few minutes here.
The one thing that shocked me

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even more Is protecting the
quarterback, they're giving up

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less than two sacks of games,
and only about four tackles for

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loss.
So again, I'm still trying to

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figure out how with that Mash
unit that they're doing it.

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I hope you can shed some light
on that, they consistently win

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time of possession all year.
Usually averaging about 31

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minutes of game and running the
ball, I consider more average

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only about 174 yards.
So not, you know, not terrible,

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but not dominating their very
much below the pack.

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Yeah, pretty much.
I mean, that kind of checks out

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as well with what I'm seeing.
I mean, you know, we talked

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about the couple games Armstrong
Miss, but when he's been in

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there he's really he's paid that
offense more consistent.

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So whereas, you know, last year
with Perkins, they could just

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kill you at any given moment.
Yeah, the ability to either

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throw it deep or Perkins to beat
you with his legs.

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This is really more of a kind of
a balanced approach with with

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Strong having a lot more, poison
the pocket, and a lot more

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poised behind the line of
scrimmage and making good

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choices there than I really
thought I would see.

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He had some early problems in
the season with some

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interceptions, but he's really
clean that up and, you know,

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he's really good at feeling when
to step up in the pocket, when

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to break the pocket window, look
down the field to make the play.

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Once he's broken the pocket and
went to just take off and And

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try to get a first down and you
know I'll say this you know he's

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not Elite like Perkins in terms
of athleticism he's probably

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more similar to a Sam Howell in
terms of his athleticism but

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he's definitely more run first
than Sam how he's a guy that's

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going to if he sees it there
he's going to take it and he's

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going to run so we got to watch
him in both elements there.

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A true dual threat at the
quarterback position.

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So that's where their offense
runs through.

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They've got a good kind of
collection of running backs as

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well.
The main one is tala pop up.

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He doesn't jump off the tape
when you see him, there's

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nothing Elite about him but he's
a solid one, a guy for them.

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He kind of does a little bit of
everything.

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He's a good blocker.
He kind of works through the

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garbage a lot between the
tackles even though he's a

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little undersized and then they
got Simpson, who does a really

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good job of catching balls out
of the backfield.

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I saw him take one against
against UNC, he broke a really

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00:27:49,500 --> 00:27:51,300
big on things, like a 70 or 80
yard touchdown.

447
00:27:51,700 --> 00:27:57,200
Down off just like a quick swing
pass out of the backfield so he

448
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,200
can hurt you in the receiving
game, they throw a lot of

449
00:27:59,208 --> 00:28:02,400
screens to him stuff out, you
know, check downs and things

450
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,700
like that.
So he's got to watch in that

451
00:28:04,700 --> 00:28:07,800
type of thing.
And he'll also carry the balls.

452
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,400
Some, he actually likes to Thump
A little bit more than table.

453
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:14,000
Papa.
So kind of athletic guy that'll

454
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,700
bring a little bit of lumber at
the end of a run.

455
00:28:16,900 --> 00:28:20,800
Very nice Brian.
What about their offensive line?

456
00:28:21,300 --> 00:28:22,800
Again, I look at the fact
numbers.

457
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:28,100
I don't see a lot about that,
you know, is it is it, you

458
00:28:28,100 --> 00:28:33,300
mentioned, you know, the Dual
threat capabilities of Armstrong

459
00:28:33,300 --> 00:28:37,400
but to still have that low
number.

460
00:28:37,700 --> 00:28:41,500
I mean, are they is it just a
perfect combination and what

461
00:28:41,500 --> 00:28:44,800
they're doing or is it, are they
borderline?

462
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,900
You know, a really really good
offensive line.

463
00:28:48,100 --> 00:28:50,700
I'd say they're above average
offensive line, they're not a

464
00:28:50,700 --> 00:28:53,000
really good offensive line but
they are they are a good

465
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,900
offensive line.
They're probably, I don't know,

466
00:28:55,900 --> 00:28:59,100
maybe three or four in terms of
the best lines you've seen this

467
00:28:59,100 --> 00:29:02,500
year so they're not like,
Clemson.

468
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,600
They're not, you know, they're
not Elite level but they get the

469
00:29:05,608 --> 00:29:08,600
job done.
But pairing it, what they do

470
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,200
with what Armstrong's
capabilities are they look a

471
00:29:11,208 --> 00:29:14,300
little bit better than they are.
And, you know, they got lucky a

472
00:29:14,300 --> 00:29:18,000
little bit.
Armstrong is done a good job of

473
00:29:18,100 --> 00:29:20,600
oftentimes getting rid of the
football when he needs to.

474
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:27,400
He has kind of that little bit
of Russell Wilson type thing

475
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,900
where he can get in trouble and
then get himself out of trouble

476
00:29:30,900 --> 00:29:33,600
and then get rid of the ball.
Okay, it's in.

477
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,200
Sometimes that goes for
completion and sometimes it just

478
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,300
goes for you know getting thrown
out of bounds and moving on to

479
00:29:39,308 --> 00:29:42,100
the next place.
So he's definitely helped him in

480
00:29:42,100 --> 00:29:45,200
that regard.
Where is kind of Perkins.

481
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,700
Once you were there, he was
going down.

482
00:29:48,300 --> 00:29:54,400
He has a little bit more of
ability to break, tackles in the

483
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,600
backfield and still be able to
get rid of the ball to save a

484
00:29:57,608 --> 00:30:00,100
sec.
What we're going after Franco.

485
00:30:00,500 --> 00:30:03,800
I know you're going to have ways
to attack this D for this

486
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:09,100
offense, excuse me and kind of
second here, but Many mentioned

487
00:30:09,100 --> 00:30:12,000
aren't many talked earlier this
week and you just kind of been

488
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:17,000
and we kind of talked about it.
There's been one good running

489
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,900
quarterback that really burned
us this year.

490
00:30:19,100 --> 00:30:21,000
I was Malik Willis at Liberty.
Yep.

491
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:26,400
Are there guys have got some
yards but not absolutely kill

492
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:26,800
this.
I know.

493
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,000
Trevor Lawrence broke 217 yards
for the touchdown last week and

494
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:34,400
he had a couple other good runs.
We held the Eric King Sam.

495
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,700
Halden have much going on his
day.

496
00:30:37,500 --> 00:30:41,600
We played enough to where it's
like, if anything comes out of

497
00:30:41,608 --> 00:30:45,000
this year, good, the fundamental
change out front.

498
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,400
We're running right.
Quarterbacks not necessarily

499
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:52,300
dual threat, but guys who have a
little wiggle aren't killing us?

500
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,300
And I always go back.
Remember that night day, we went

501
00:30:54,300 --> 00:30:56,400
to Big Al's against Maryland.
Yep.

502
00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:00,400
In this son of the that kid
could not have been faster than

503
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:04,200
me but he kept In the pocket,
getting like 12 to 15 yard games

504
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,900
on the left side and me and you
were just sitting there Furious

505
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:12,200
like him.
What are you doing?

506
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:13,000
What are you doing?
Yeah.

507
00:31:13,500 --> 00:31:16,100
Well Brian.
What are how can we attack this

508
00:31:16,100 --> 00:31:20,300
offense?
And really you know exploit the

509
00:31:20,300 --> 00:31:22,000
weaknesses.
I'm going to mention in a second

510
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,700
here.
Yeah so the big thing is getting

511
00:31:25,700 --> 00:31:27,500
them off.
The field on third down.

512
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,000
You know, they've got a couple
guys that are really good at

513
00:31:32,500 --> 00:31:34,900
kind of moving the sticks when
they get in like a second and

514
00:31:34,900 --> 00:31:40,600
long third and long situation
Jana being the probably the

515
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,800
biggest returning, receiver from
that we talked about from last

516
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,400
year.
He's a stick mover, but he also

517
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,300
has the ability to stretch the
field vertically.

518
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:53,400
Then they've got Kemp, he's more
of that slot receiver underneath

519
00:31:53,900 --> 00:31:57,700
the coverage threat, you know,
working some quick outs.

520
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,600
Somebody, you know, drag some
shallow crossers, things like

521
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,400
that.
They just kind of through the

522
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:10,300
thorn in your side, I'll game
the newcomer Lavell Davis jr.

523
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:16,000
He tall well mr. 67 right.
He tall.

524
00:32:17,300 --> 00:32:19,300
Yeah.
So obvious Red Zone, threat

525
00:32:19,300 --> 00:32:21,800
here.
Obviously a guy that could pick

526
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:26,900
on smaller Corners if we don't
give them some help.

527
00:32:28,100 --> 00:32:32,000
And then you've got a guy like
Paul Jay in that really big red

528
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,500
zone threat for them at tight
end.

529
00:32:33,500 --> 00:32:37,000
So they've got a Quadra of
weapons there that they can take

530
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:41,000
advantage of in those third-down
situations in those Red Zone

531
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,100
situation.
So the key is to get off the

532
00:32:43,100 --> 00:32:47,300
field and those situation and
don't let them keep the ball in

533
00:32:47,300 --> 00:32:48,500
the field.
Like you said, time of

534
00:32:48,500 --> 00:32:52,900
possession is good for them.
It's because they're able to get

535
00:32:52,900 --> 00:32:56,400
some of those stick, movers in
the passing game.

536
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,600
And when things break down,
Armstrong can take off and still

537
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,400
get it with his legs too, so we
can be good on third down on

538
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:04,200
defense.
I think.

539
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:05,900
We like, are we like our chances
here?

540
00:33:06,500 --> 00:33:09,300
All right.
Well Brian, I'm going to just go

541
00:33:09,300 --> 00:33:11,800
right into it.
You talk about the third down,

542
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,400
it is one of their biggest
weaknesses.

543
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:18,900
They are 96 in the country at
converting third Downs at 36.4.

544
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,600
So clearly probably the games
they've won they've probably

545
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,900
been really good at it.
The games they've lost they

546
00:33:26,900 --> 00:33:30,000
probably been really bad at it
in probably what you've been

547
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,800
looking at.
More recently is probably the

548
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,300
last four games where they won.
Yeah.

549
00:33:35,500 --> 00:33:39,100
Obviously if they're converting
them it kind of says something

550
00:33:39,100 --> 00:33:41,700
that they're doing it better but
overall they're not doing it.

551
00:33:41,708 --> 00:33:43,900
Great.
Now I'll say this and you

552
00:33:43,900 --> 00:33:45,700
mentioned it with Armstrong.
You talked about his

553
00:33:45,700 --> 00:33:50,400
interceptions earlier in the
year but they're still turning

554
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,400
the ball over at a pace of
sitting them at 115.

555
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:58,700
The country 17 total turnovers
12 picks five fumbles.

556
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:04,700
So although you've talked about
him cleaning it up lately It

557
00:34:04,700 --> 00:34:07,700
still has that possibility there
that.

558
00:34:07,700 --> 00:34:11,400
Absolutely absolutely.
I'll get now the other one and I

559
00:34:11,408 --> 00:34:15,199
think this is going to be the
key to winning Saturday night.

560
00:34:15,699 --> 00:34:18,300
They're not great at converting,
their Red Zone in two

561
00:34:18,308 --> 00:34:24,600
touchdowns. 39 attempts, only 24
touchdowns We must been not

562
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:29,699
break their just similar to the
Clemson game is gonna sound

563
00:34:29,699 --> 00:34:32,100
really weird.
But first drive we held them to

564
00:34:32,100 --> 00:34:36,900
a field goal right later on,
they get deep, we force a

565
00:34:36,908 --> 00:34:40,199
turnover know, we give it right
back but that's essentially

566
00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:43,800
saying right there.
Well that's 11 points if you

567
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:48,400
tell me that we do that and we
hold them down 11 points.

568
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,300
I think we win this game by a
couple of stores.

569
00:34:53,900 --> 00:34:57,600
Yeah, we see I'll be the key is
going to be how well we do on

570
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,500
third down and how well we do in
the Red Zone.

571
00:35:00,900 --> 00:35:06,000
They've shown a propensity to be
bad in some of those situations

572
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,900
lately.
They looked a lot better lately.

573
00:35:08,900 --> 00:35:14,100
They look more like a team that
converts on those and I mean

574
00:35:14,300 --> 00:35:18,100
we've seen it of the last this
little run they've been on.

575
00:35:19,900 --> 00:35:23,000
Yeah, they've been winning more
than they've been losing and

576
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,100
Some of that goes back to them.
I'm just cleaning up some of

577
00:35:26,107 --> 00:35:29,800
those things that were really
bad for them at the start of the

578
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:34,400
season and and you know it's
really we're kind of at a mirror

579
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:38,100
image right now like this UVA
team is probably playing the

580
00:35:38,100 --> 00:35:40,700
best football.
They play all season coming into

581
00:35:40,700 --> 00:35:43,100
this game and we're probably
playing some of the worst

582
00:35:43,100 --> 00:35:46,100
football.
We played all season coming into

583
00:35:46,100 --> 00:35:49,800
this game so something's got to
give I think from a talent

584
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,700
perspective we probably have the
more talented team but That

585
00:35:53,700 --> 00:35:57,200
doesn't, you know, paper doesn't
win the game, my brother didn't.

586
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:01,200
Let me ask this to, and in this
is where does this sounds?

587
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:07,000
But do you think that when
because of the NC State game

588
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,900
when Armstrong got hurt and he
was out the next to?

589
00:36:10,300 --> 00:36:12,800
Yep.
Or he was out the Wake Forest

590
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,400
game at least and then he was
sort of limited with Miami.

591
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,300
Do you think that helped them
more than hurt them where we

592
00:36:19,300 --> 00:36:23,100
essentially, he got hurt they
were able to take him out, do

593
00:36:23,100 --> 00:36:26,200
something.
Things different, instead of

594
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:27,500
having games where he was in
there.

595
00:36:27,500 --> 00:36:29,200
Let's say he, let's say you
didn't get hurt.

596
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,100
They play Wake, they lose to
wait with him where the failures

597
00:36:32,100 --> 00:36:36,200
just keep piling on top of each
other over and over where the

598
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,400
coaching staff can say Hey
listen you're healthy now.

599
00:36:40,300 --> 00:36:42,400
Clean slate.
We're going to do some different

600
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,700
things while you are out we
found some niches for Kiante

601
00:36:45,700 --> 00:36:50,200
Thompson.
So you know, Do you think that's

602
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:54,300
helped them more than hurt them?
I think so, I think it provided

603
00:36:54,300 --> 00:36:58,000
them, the ability to give
defensive fronts different looks

604
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,000
with their offense and
especially working in Thompson a

605
00:37:01,008 --> 00:37:06,100
lot as kind of like a wing extra
quarterback.

606
00:37:06,100 --> 00:37:08,100
Like he kind of does a little
bit of everything in there.

607
00:37:08,100 --> 00:37:11,500
They use them like primarily
from the wing.

608
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,500
Sending him in motion on like
jet sweeps, doing some counters

609
00:37:17,500 --> 00:37:19,600
with him, like there's a lot
that they do with him in the

610
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,200
running game, that gives them
use defenses.

611
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:26,900
Different looks than they would
get from a typical offense that

612
00:37:27,900 --> 00:37:31,500
typical team that runs the the
type of offense that Eva runs so

613
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,300
yeah.
I think those extra wrinkles

614
00:37:33,300 --> 00:37:37,100
have given Armstrong a little
more flexibility in how he plays

615
00:37:37,100 --> 00:37:41,200
the game and that offense is a
hole, a little bit more room to

616
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:42,900
work because there's an extra
thread out.

617
00:37:43,100 --> 00:37:48,800
They're Well, normally we do
pivotal players folks, but we're

618
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,600
not going to do tonight.
You've seen our team, you know

619
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,600
who needs to play.
Well, you know what needs to

620
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:58,700
happen.
And if you haven't Go back and

621
00:37:58,700 --> 00:38:01,800
look at all the games over the
next 48 hours.

622
00:38:02,900 --> 00:38:05,400
You'll figure it out pretty
quick, condensed tapes out

623
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,000
there, guys, just take a look at
it.

624
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:11,300
See what you can find pull some
of the good stuff out there but,

625
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:12,900
you know, we know who needs to
play.

626
00:38:12,900 --> 00:38:17,100
Well, we know at this point
that, you know, if we're not

627
00:38:17,100 --> 00:38:19,600
getting off the field, third
down on defense, or if we're not

628
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,700
converting, third Downs on
offense.

629
00:38:22,700 --> 00:38:24,700
Those those are the two big
things that have really

630
00:38:24,700 --> 00:38:28,800
determine how good or bad this
team has been this year and if

631
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,300
we're not doing those things,
well then we're probably not

632
00:38:32,300 --> 00:38:34,700
going to win this game if we can
do them.

633
00:38:36,100 --> 00:38:40,500
You know somewhat proficiently.
We we should be able to make

634
00:38:40,500 --> 00:38:43,900
this happen.
So we'll see how it goes but how

635
00:38:43,900 --> 00:38:45,400
you feeling heading into this
will man?

636
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:50,600
I really I'm at a point where I
don't really, I don't know, know

637
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,100
what to throw out there for this
one.

638
00:38:52,500 --> 00:38:54,700
I don't know, I don't know what
to throw out there.

639
00:38:54,700 --> 00:38:56,400
For this one.
I mean, I'm going to make a

640
00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:00,400
prediction here in a couple
minutes because what I've seen

641
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,800
from this team it's the
inconsistencies we have not put

642
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:08,000
for good quarters together since
NC State back in September.

643
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,500
Yep.
There's been at times second.

644
00:39:11,500 --> 00:39:15,600
Half of Boston College.
If that team on both sides of

645
00:39:15,607 --> 00:39:19,200
the ball shows up every week
since then, the only game we

646
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:20,800
would have lost, would have been
Clemson.

647
00:39:22,700 --> 00:39:27,100
Hindsight, hindsight, some of
the corners.

648
00:39:27,100 --> 00:39:30,400
Again, spit if that team had
showed up every game since

649
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,500
Boston College, we wouldn't have
want any games.

650
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,800
We won't be going to the game
before that.

651
00:39:36,100 --> 00:39:41,500
So we are a jekyll-and-hyde team
and that's what's scary.

652
00:39:42,300 --> 00:39:49,300
The upside is there a Jekyll and
Hyde team and their good side

653
00:39:49,300 --> 00:39:51,900
has been showing out the last
four weeks where There are worse

654
00:39:51,900 --> 00:39:53,700
off, has been showing out for
weeks.

655
00:39:55,300 --> 00:40:00,900
You've hope that what we are
opinion is we got a lame-duck

656
00:40:00,900 --> 00:40:05,700
coach, you hope that he wants to
go out in a blaze of glory and

657
00:40:05,700 --> 00:40:10,700
do things different query, risks
in an attempt to win the game

658
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:18,000
and, you know, I'm working.
We said have significantly more

659
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:22,100
Talent than them.
I mean it probably at every

660
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:28,000
single position where more
talented than them A linebacker

661
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,100
is the only position that I'd
say they might have is beat him,

662
00:40:31,100 --> 00:40:34,200
but without Snowden, it's
probably closer to even than it

663
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,900
would be normally.
And there are the three four, so

664
00:40:36,900 --> 00:40:39,700
you're putting their outside
linebackers in with their

665
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,300
backers.
So, it's a little to me, it's a

666
00:40:43,300 --> 00:40:48,000
little different.
So let's just get to it.

667
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,200
What's your prediction for
Saturday night?

668
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:55,300
Oh man.
It is at night, you know, when

669
00:40:55,300 --> 00:40:59,200
nothing matters with it, it's a
night.

670
00:41:00,100 --> 00:41:02,300
Yeah, it's kind of weird that
we've been getting this.

671
00:41:02,500 --> 00:41:06,300
This like Prime spot, as we're
playing the worst football,

672
00:41:06,300 --> 00:41:10,300
we've seen all year.
That's been a little frustrating

673
00:41:10,300 --> 00:41:14,100
because we have to keep watching
it over and over and over again

674
00:41:14,100 --> 00:41:16,700
happen and as does everybody
else.

675
00:41:16,700 --> 00:41:18,600
So that means we get to hear
about it a lot too.

676
00:41:18,700 --> 00:41:24,100
To get a Primetime slot, you
hear about how you did a whole

677
00:41:24,100 --> 00:41:27,900
lot more.
So, Here we are.

678
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:42,800
Give me 31. 27, Virginia Tech
3127 Virginia Tech.

679
00:41:47,300 --> 00:41:53,300
Alright, I am I'm with you after
a few weeks of picking against

680
00:41:53,300 --> 00:41:57,200
us.
There's just a part of me that

681
00:41:57,300 --> 00:42:00,700
couldn't in this case, I think
we come out.

682
00:42:00,700 --> 00:42:04,800
I think we come out fired up.
I think we come out and run some

683
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,300
trick plays.
I think in the end.

684
00:42:10,500 --> 00:42:12,700
They're going to revert back to
some of their highlighted

685
00:42:12,700 --> 00:42:16,200
portions of this game.
Okay I think they're going to

686
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,300
revert back to their height.
A few portions this game which

687
00:42:19,300 --> 00:42:21,500
Tony wrong.
Our hands are going to show too

688
00:42:23,300 --> 00:42:27,700
but I think for them since it
hasn't really shown and close to

689
00:42:27,700 --> 00:42:31,100
five weeks, I think that's
what's going to be the toughest

690
00:42:31,100 --> 00:42:36,700
thing to overcome for them.
Give me 3831, Virginia Tech the

691
00:42:36,700 --> 00:42:42,400
cup stays in Blacksburg.
And I think I think our guys are

692
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,600
playing for something I mean
whether it's for for Coach

693
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:48,400
Fuente or for Pride or just to
get the damn cup back.

694
00:42:48,900 --> 00:42:52,300
You know, I think I think our
guys are going to show up and be

695
00:42:52,300 --> 00:42:58,500
as focused as they've been on
any game probably since Game one

696
00:42:58,500 --> 00:43:01,700
against NC State or less.
What they?

697
00:43:01,700 --> 00:43:04,800
They were focused last week.
I least for a half or two and a

698
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:08,100
half.
I mean, to me, that was two and

699
00:43:08,100 --> 00:43:09,600
a half of the better quarters of
football.

700
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,100
We play on both sides of the
ball.

701
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,900
It's true man.
We can put if we could put

702
00:43:14,900 --> 00:43:18,300
another quarter together with
that, you know if we're all if

703
00:43:18,300 --> 00:43:21,100
we're only having half a quarter
where we're playing, like we

704
00:43:21,100 --> 00:43:23,800
don't know what we're doing.
We probably win this football

705
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,200
game.
If we have a half a quarter

706
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,300
where we don't know what we're
doing, Doing by more than seven

707
00:43:29,300 --> 00:43:32,000
and four points?
I think we would probably say

708
00:43:33,100 --> 00:43:38,300
10:50, maybe two touchdowns but
we have to say there's going to

709
00:43:38,300 --> 00:43:42,900
be some really bad quarters.
All right.

710
00:43:42,900 --> 00:43:45,900
Well, let's roll on Brian to our
picks for the week.

711
00:43:45,900 --> 00:43:48,700
Folks, going to pick some ACC
games, a couple out of

712
00:43:48,700 --> 00:43:53,500
conference games as well.
First one Brian since you let

713
00:43:53,500 --> 00:43:57,000
off with the Commonwealth Cup
game lead.

714
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:01,400
All of this one Wake Forest.
Louisville Louisville is laying

715
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,400
one and a half points.
I am trying to figure this one

716
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:05,700
out.
I'm trying to figure out if

717
00:44:05,700 --> 00:44:07,900
there's players heard on Wake
clearly.

718
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:12,500
Right.
Well without je viens out, if

719
00:44:12,500 --> 00:44:16,500
someone can explain to me.
Why Louisville is laying points

720
00:44:16,500 --> 00:44:18,700
because I think wait for us when
just came out, right?

721
00:44:21,300 --> 00:44:23,400
Yeah, give you wake for his
legal limit.

722
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:31,000
Legal, you see, like, Wake
Forest has like essentially

723
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,100
quite a bit to play for if you
think about it.

724
00:44:34,100 --> 00:44:38,700
I mean, I mean they've had one
of their better Seasons, you

725
00:44:38,700 --> 00:44:43,400
know, beat some good teams so
out of their starting to stack

726
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,900
some decent Seasons together
under clause in there man.

727
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:50,000
So yeah, yeah.
And they're going to be happy

728
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:54,300
with who they are and I think
Klaus will be there for another

729
00:44:54,300 --> 00:44:56,300
five years if they keep at this
pace.

730
00:44:57,100 --> 00:45:01,000
All right, Brian.
This is kind of the toilet bowl

731
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:05,900
of the ACC.
Duke and Florida State, Florida

732
00:45:05,900 --> 00:45:13,300
State Lane, four and a half.
Oh man.

733
00:45:15,100 --> 00:45:18,100
Toilet bowl.
Welcome to the toilet.

734
00:45:20,900 --> 00:45:24,700
I'll take.
All right, you're going to late

735
00:45:24,700 --> 00:45:29,300
points.
With the team that basically

736
00:45:29,300 --> 00:45:33,000
hasn't been playing for the last
month because of covid.

737
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,400
Exactly that.
That's that's how bad the

738
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,000
situation is.
At this point man.

739
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:47,400
I just you know I feel like Duke
is really been rudderless Wait,

740
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:51,100
wait.
So I think FSU after kind of

741
00:45:51,100 --> 00:45:57,100
having their wad built up for
the last several weeks.

742
00:45:57,100 --> 00:45:59,800
They finally get to hit somebody
again.

743
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,700
So I think we'll see some action
there.

744
00:46:02,100 --> 00:46:04,600
Well true.
But to me, it feels like they

745
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:10,400
laid down and the last three
games they play they lost by 32

746
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:16,500
24 and 16 not exactly a ringing.
Endorsement, the biggest loss

747
00:46:16,500 --> 00:46:20,500
was to Louisville who's 3 and 7.
So I'm going to flip and say,

748
00:46:20,500 --> 00:46:23,100
take Duke after getting waxed
by.

749
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,100
Miami last week.
I think they show some pride.

750
00:46:26,100 --> 00:46:28,700
Come out.
I don't know if they win the

751
00:46:28,700 --> 00:46:33,400
game but as bad as both of these
teams are, I'll take the dog.

752
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,000
I'll take points, okay?
I'm good with that.

753
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:51,900
All right, Brian going to do it,
but let's go to the dairy versus

754
00:46:51,900 --> 00:46:55,200
Corn here.
Iowa laying a slim one and a

755
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:56,800
half points, where you got
Brian.

756
00:46:58,700 --> 00:47:02,600
He is a after what I saw from
Wisconsin, I'm going to actually

757
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:06,500
take Iowa here.
Okay, after what I saw last week

758
00:47:06,500 --> 00:47:10,300
with this constant, I mean you
know all credit to buy you there

759
00:47:10,300 --> 00:47:13,700
but I think Wisconsin had a
chance to show something and

760
00:47:13,700 --> 00:47:16,500
they just completely scrapped
the bed, I think.

761
00:47:16,500 --> 00:47:19,400
Well they're not quite the team.
We thought they were going to be

762
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,800
this year.
So I'll take Iowa, we are who

763
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:24,900
they thought they were.
By the way, the over-under for

764
00:47:24,900 --> 00:47:27,700
this game, you know, you want to
guess it real quick.

765
00:47:30,500 --> 00:47:38,000
Is it under 50 is under 50.
Let me get loot, let me go 4442.

766
00:47:39,700 --> 00:47:45,100
Ah okay well it's also Iowa in
December of sure, it's probably

767
00:47:45,100 --> 00:47:48,400
going to be about 15 degrees
with a knife.

768
00:47:54,900 --> 00:47:58,900
He's got something to prove.
They've had a couple bad games

769
00:47:59,300 --> 00:48:02,200
in a season where many thought
that they would be the team

770
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:03,900
coming out of the West.
I think they're going to go try

771
00:48:03,900 --> 00:48:07,000
to prove something.
At kinnick stadium.

772
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:11,000
And so just as, basically a coin
flip, pick them game.

773
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,800
Anyway, I'll pick them to win
this game over the Iowa

774
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:19,500
Hawkeyes, okay?
Alright, next Braun, lets go to

775
00:48:19,500 --> 00:48:23,300
the SEC East in essentially a
battle for second place, believe

776
00:48:23,300 --> 00:48:26,100
it or not.
Where is Missouri.

777
00:48:26,100 --> 00:48:31,300
Takes on, Georgia, Georgia
laying 13 and a half points.

778
00:48:32,900 --> 00:48:35,500
I've been back and forth on this
one, you know, obviously, we got

779
00:48:35,500 --> 00:48:39,900
a connection there with Damon
Hazelton got a big game last

780
00:48:39,900 --> 00:48:45,700
week did have a very big game
last week, which, you know, that

781
00:48:45,700 --> 00:48:47,800
took him a while to get there to
do it.

782
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:51,000
But, you know, you know, it is
what it is.

783
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,100
I mean, you look last week at
his stat line and he goes out

784
00:48:54,100 --> 00:48:58,500
there.
R5 catches 98 yards so we'll

785
00:48:58,500 --> 00:49:00,300
see.
We'll see if he can keep that up

786
00:49:00,300 --> 00:49:05,900
against Georgia.
I just can't see, Missouri

787
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:12,500
staying with Georgia, you know,
Missouri, beat Arkansas by two

788
00:49:12,500 --> 00:49:14,100
points.
Blowout, Vanderbilt Vanderbilt

789
00:49:14,100 --> 00:49:18,500
doesn't count, but the couple of
elite teams they played this

790
00:49:18,500 --> 00:49:22,200
year.
That would be Florida.

791
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:27,300
In Alabama, they got waxed by
2419 poetically.

792
00:49:27,300 --> 00:49:29,800
They also lost by 23 to
Tennessee.

793
00:49:30,500 --> 00:49:33,800
I I just I feel like Georgia,
maybe feel like they're playing

794
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,400
for something still maybe sec.
I'll do something wild seed.

795
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:41,500
They play Texas A&M in an effort
to sneak in Texas A&M.

796
00:49:42,900 --> 00:49:46,300
You know, do the playoff Bama
Beats Florida.

797
00:49:46,300 --> 00:49:51,600
So give me you go.
Okay, I'm right there with you,

798
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:55,400
man.
I like what Mizzou is done of

799
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:59,500
late, but at the same time as
you've noted, when they've had

800
00:49:59,500 --> 00:50:02,100
to go up against the big dogs in
their conference.

801
00:50:02,100 --> 00:50:08,100
They've kind of not look that
great even a up and down, dog

802
00:50:08,100 --> 00:50:11,100
like Tennessee.
You know that wasn't a great

803
00:50:11,100 --> 00:50:13,600
performance.
So I just I don't trust them in

804
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:15,500
big games and this is a big game
for them.

805
00:50:15,500 --> 00:50:20,300
So I'm going to take oh yeah,
alright, alright, let's go to

806
00:50:20,300 --> 00:50:23,200
the biggest game in the ACC
Battle of top, 20 team.

807
00:50:23,300 --> 00:50:30,600
Is number ten, Miami 17, UNC
Miami, laying three and a half

808
00:50:31,300 --> 00:50:34,000
Miami.
Is there potential to probably

809
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:38,700
get a new year six bowl if they
pull this win out.

810
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:45,700
So if you gotta run, Oh, man,
both of these teams, despite how

811
00:50:45,700 --> 00:50:48,900
good their records are have
played games where you're like,

812
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:53,100
ah, what, what are you doing?
And then they pull out the wind

813
00:50:53,100 --> 00:50:56,300
so it doesn't matter and then
obviously there's been a couple

814
00:50:56,300 --> 00:50:59,000
losses there for you and see
that you kind of shake your head

815
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:03,900
at.
But in terms of consistency, I

816
00:51:03,900 --> 00:51:07,700
like Miami a little bit better
when even when they play down to

817
00:51:07,700 --> 00:51:09,700
their competition, they
generally still keep them at

818
00:51:09,700 --> 00:51:12,000
arm's length.
Well this is a big match up.

819
00:51:12,100 --> 00:51:15,100
Or them.
You know, they showed up and

820
00:51:15,100 --> 00:51:17,900
played pretty well against us.
They showed up and played.

821
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,900
You know, decent a couple other
games, this year really

822
00:51:21,900 --> 00:51:24,500
Clemson's the only one that kind
of kind of beat them.

823
00:51:24,500 --> 00:51:27,400
Pretty good.
So, I'll take Miami in the three

824
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,300
and a half.
Yeah, the Clemson game, but on

825
00:51:30,300 --> 00:51:33,100
pretty good, but I mean, they
were within 11 points at

826
00:51:33,100 --> 00:51:35,900
halftime, essentially the most
people against Clemson.

827
00:51:35,900 --> 00:51:41,200
You lose it in the second half
North Carolina to me, it's just

828
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:45,700
been They lose when they're not
supposed to lose.

829
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:50,000
You know.
They lost against UVA shouldn't

830
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,100
have lost against UVA.
They lost against Florida State.

831
00:51:52,100 --> 00:51:56,200
They shouldn't have lost against
Florida State and again I really

832
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:59,200
am going to put it on there that
for Miami.

833
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,900
They blew the doors off to you
glass week, my hammy.

834
00:52:01,900 --> 00:52:04,400
Essentially, got this respect to
the insane.

835
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:09,000
Hey, when Clemson wins, and when
Notre Dame wins this week,

836
00:52:09,300 --> 00:52:12,200
they're in we're not making
anybody else play anymore.

837
00:52:12,300 --> 00:52:14,100
Games.
There's not even though they

838
00:52:14,100 --> 00:52:18,200
could have stood up and said
listen we only have one loss to

839
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:19,700
a top five team.
Yes.

840
00:52:19,700 --> 00:52:22,400
It's by multiple, you know
touchdown.

841
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,500
Yeah we should still get a
chance.

842
00:52:26,700 --> 00:52:30,100
I've gotta say I'm on Miami with
this.

843
00:52:31,300 --> 00:52:39,100
Okay, I'll be right there with
me this, you know, it's close

844
00:52:39,100 --> 00:52:42,500
enough to a pick them.
Where, you know, I trust Miami's

845
00:52:42,500 --> 00:52:45,200
consistency.
Shocking to say more than I

846
00:52:45,207 --> 00:52:48,100
trust you and see the play
consistently, so it's true.

847
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:53,400
But the other piece is this
unc's defense is like, swiss

848
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:58,500
cheese where the Miami defense
several times has essentially

849
00:52:58,500 --> 00:53:05,100
locked people down You see in
this game like me like 4131

850
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:10,000
where it's a really good game
but unc's defense, just can't

851
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,200
stop them.
Miami gets that one or two stops

852
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:17,300
in the awesome.
All right, folks, last game and

853
00:53:17,300 --> 00:53:24,300
to me the biggest game of the
week and rankings don't matter,

854
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:29,100
it's the Army-Navy game first
time and oh my God.

855
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:34,800
Shoot.
I lost it first time in how many

856
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:39,200
years it's going to be on campus
Because it's going to be in West

857
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:44,200
Point.
And I lost it.

858
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:52,600
I had, I'm very sorry I had this
up, um, Equity because so many

859
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:56,300
years, it's either where it's
like, Philly it will be at The

860
00:53:56,308 --> 00:53:59,300
Meadowlands sometimes.
Sometimes it'll be down at the

861
00:53:59,300 --> 00:54:01,700
Ravens Stadium, which is really
awesome.

862
00:54:02,300 --> 00:54:07,700
So, let me yeah.
Sorry, guys, this was terrible

863
00:54:07,700 --> 00:54:12,500
because I had it and then I lost
it.

864
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:17,700
It's a long time, by the way
1983 they played in the Rose

865
00:54:17,700 --> 00:54:21,400
Bowl in.
Pasadena do not have been a

866
00:54:21,408 --> 00:54:23,600
great game to see.
Oh unbelievable.

867
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:34,800
And I'm wondering if it's like
1931 either way, it is been a

868
00:54:34,808 --> 00:54:36,900
long time since it's been played
on the campus.

869
00:54:36,900 --> 00:54:39,200
It's going to be played at West
Point which is really cool.

870
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:46,600
And for me, Brian, Navy started
looking bad.

871
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,900
Beginning of the year, they have
really not righted, the ship

872
00:54:49,900 --> 00:54:54,800
even with a couple wins.
I've got to go Army even though

873
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:58,900
it's a triple option game in
Army, literally not scoring one

874
00:54:58,900 --> 00:55:01,700
possession.
Versus Navy not scoring two

875
00:55:01,700 --> 00:55:05,300
possessions could push this game
but I just I can't see that.

876
00:55:05,300 --> 00:55:09,500
I've got to go Army.
I'm with you man.

877
00:55:10,500 --> 00:55:14,000
I think Army is just been
working system this year.

878
00:55:14,100 --> 00:55:23,000
Year, Navy started the season
just and Army's been kind of

879
00:55:23,008 --> 00:55:25,000
steady Eddie.
So I'm going to take our me, I

880
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,600
think they're going to pull it
out as much as we hate the

881
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:31,800
triple option especially when a
team named The Yellow Jackets

882
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,300
run it.
Well, I love seeing it in games

883
00:55:34,300 --> 00:55:39,600
like this where it's like you
know, almost heads up so let's

884
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,000
let's let the triple option
Shine.

885
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:47,500
The flexbone shine When it's
running the way it should, it is

886
00:55:47,500 --> 00:55:52,300
a thing of beauty as annoying as
it can be for a defense and oh

887
00:55:52,300 --> 00:55:54,500
absolutely when they're when
they're humming.

888
00:55:54,500 --> 00:55:58,600
And would a couple years ago, I
can't remember what year it was

889
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,500
where.
It's like, neither one could not

890
00:56:01,500 --> 00:56:06,800
either one could stop each other
but like it was that perfect

891
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:10,800
paced game where it was just
like back forth, back forth,

892
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,900
back forth and it goes really
fast and it's just like thing.

893
00:56:14,100 --> 00:56:20,200
The beauty almost say this to if
Jeff Monken and army wins

894
00:56:21,900 --> 00:56:26,600
Vanderbilt and I know no one
who's a Vanderbilt fan, probably

895
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:30,200
listen to us.
But Mighty who is first of all,

896
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:34,300
give them a pat on the back
because life of that Phantom and

897
00:56:34,300 --> 00:56:37,100
football has got to be just
absolutely brutal.

898
00:56:38,500 --> 00:56:42,000
It's like Duke fans been worse.
Exactly.

899
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:44,300
Go hard.
Jeff Monken.

900
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:50,300
You will be a competitive
football team for five to ten

901
00:56:50,300 --> 00:56:54,300
years with him, running the
triple option, you will win

902
00:56:54,300 --> 00:56:57,200
somewhere between 57 and your
best years.

903
00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:02,000
Eight games a year, they do it
van Dee's out there.

904
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:06,600
They've always been like going
for, you know, not splashy

905
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:08,800
hires.
But like, hires that get them

906
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,500
Pub.
I mean, you know, that's why you

907
00:57:11,500 --> 00:57:14,300
see Healy attached to probably a
lot of their rumors this this

908
00:57:14,300 --> 00:57:15,200
office.
He's a man.

909
00:57:15,700 --> 00:57:21,900
Well, so it'll be interesting.
Did you catch the Jeff Collins

910
00:57:21,900 --> 00:57:27,300
patent are doozy handshake?
No, I did not have that, man.

911
00:57:27,300 --> 00:57:35,400
Jeff Collins is my new favorite,
unless we're playing them, very

912
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:39,000
brief and jerked his hand.
Away from n��r du zi and like

913
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:45,800
took off towards the end zone
and are doozies like who Mike.

914
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:47,400
Shut up.
Fuck up.

915
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,200
Nor do you see?
No one gives a shit about you

916
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:52,100
and I'm in for that Jeff Collins
right now.

917
00:57:52,100 --> 00:57:54,500
You are the man.
Are you the main columns

918
00:57:54,500 --> 00:57:57,700
yesterday are dizzy?
All right, Brian, anything in

919
00:57:57,700 --> 00:58:01,700
the smoker this weekend, this
weekend, man.

920
00:58:01,700 --> 00:58:05,500
I am doing some more smoke K.
So, we got a little little

921
00:58:05,500 --> 00:58:08,000
gathering.
We're going to Saturday evenings

922
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,900
on, make some of that.
Take that over with some.

923
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:13,300
I don't know what type of chips.
I'll get.

924
00:58:13,300 --> 00:58:19,300
I might actually Food line makes
a good good tortilla that that

925
00:58:19,300 --> 00:58:21,800
they make fresh there and house
I usually will pick up some of

926
00:58:21,808 --> 00:58:26,200
those nice man.
Nice.

927
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:29,300
Anything breaking while we've
been sitting here the last hour

928
00:58:29,300 --> 00:58:33,400
on a Thursday night other than
laughing at in our doozy think

929
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:35,100
and he deserves a better
handshake.

930
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:41,000
Nah man, we're good.
Yeah, I'm seeing it now.

931
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:44,200
I'm seeing it.
I know I do.

932
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:50,400
The question is what in our
doozeedoo during the welding are

933
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:52,600
doozeedoo?
During the game is there

934
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:54,600
everything?
Dude, you know him?

935
00:58:56,300 --> 00:59:00,400
Yeah.
We've had a deal with him for

936
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:04,400
years because he's the biggest
asshole on the sidelines.

937
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:09,400
In the ACC he is he is a fucking
asshole and a lot of time the

938
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:12,600
shit he's complaining about.
It's like dude, your team is

939
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,800
doing this.
It's nothing to argue about or

940
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:17,900
your team is not getting
interfered with.

941
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:23,900
It's like he's trying to
overplay the He's trying to

942
00:59:24,100 --> 00:59:27,300
overplay the.
I'm trying to get in their heads

943
00:59:27,300 --> 00:59:30,400
for a call later on because it
gets to a point where the rest

944
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:33,200
like, I don't care if they do
understand with him, I'm not

945
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:36,800
throwing the flag.
He's been in my ear about mom

946
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:42,500
calls because pushing of he's
pushing up, shut the hell up by

947
00:59:42,500 --> 00:59:49,000
far, maybe maybe one of the best
20 games in 2016, maybe during

948
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:52,200
his 10-year with because he
would not control in the face.

949
00:59:52,300 --> 00:59:55,900
I'm gonna throw the fade over
and over and over.

950
00:59:56,200 --> 01:00:00,500
I will throw the fade until you
stop it and they didn't stop it.

951
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:06,100
It was either interference or a
catch for Buffy and Isaiah every

952
01:00:06,100 --> 01:00:11,400
single time that Thursday night
in our dues, he's lost his Regan

953
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:14,800
every catch.
He got a little bit closer to

954
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:18,700
Madness, always wary.
And then let me last season when

955
01:00:18,700 --> 01:00:21,600
he was talking, all that shit
about, not jumping off sides in

956
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:26,400
Beaver Stadium.
We didn't jump off that night

957
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:28,200
would probably not going to jump
off in Lane.

958
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:31,500
Well, fuck you.
Yep, that's going to happen.

959
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:32,900
That's, it's definitely going to
happen.

960
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:37,000
All right.
Well folks, that is going to

961
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:40,600
wrap up this episode of The
Boundary Corner podcast.

962
01:00:40,700 --> 01:00:42,900
I'm Curtis Wilson.
I'm Brian Sigler.

963
01:00:43,300 --> 01:00:46,600
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964
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:50,700
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965
01:00:50,700 --> 01:00:53,400
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966
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:57,500
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967
01:00:57,500 --> 01:01:01,200
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