In this episode we discuss the outcome of the Pinstripe Bowl disaster, debate the new on and off the field staff hires, take a look at the Hokies transfer portal options, and put a bow on all things bowl season ahead of the College Football Playoff National Championship Game.

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Welcome back to The Foundry
Corner podcast, I'm Curtis

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Wilson.
I'm Brian siglo buddy, what's

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up?
We're on a Thursday night again,

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Thursday night, Thursday night,
back to the old time slot.

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Not the new time slot.
It's been a week for us here in

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Richmond, man.
Snow all over the place.

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Kids.
Not in school us.

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Trying to work from home.
Yep, with kids, not in school,

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they push us back until At least
the 17th before we are can go

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back in the office.
Oh wow.

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Yeah.
Well I'm going to be here for a

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while.
We have not been given the

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official date yet, but needless
to say the week after the

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holidays, which was a lot of
fun, a lot of fun.

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I know me.
And you talked, numerous times

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texting back and forth.
Yep.

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Got to say your son's Rainbow
Road.

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Sweet.
Yeah, I've been having just as

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much fun as he has with that.
Anybody that's got kids of a

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certain age, get that Hot Wheels
Rainbow Road, it is the shit.

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All right I'm going to give you
all another suggestion kids of a

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certain age and we say a certain
age I'm going to say five to ten

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eleven maybe even 12.
Nintendo switch, Hot Wheels,

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Unleashed dude, that game is
sweet.

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I mean sweet like a, if you're
like us, we have probably three

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or four hundred Hot Wheels cars
in this house.

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You've seen it feels like you go
into this race and you notice

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and can identify every single
car that's on there.

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And you can customize the cars
and you can build tracks.

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And you can customize.
Its it's like so sweet.

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Like I said here, one day and we
were playing like four and a

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half hours went by like Loops,
but but the holidays were a lot

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of fun.
This week's been kind of crazy

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with all the snow at six, six
and a half inches here in

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Richmond.
Yeah we have about five on this

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side.
I know y'all had about another

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inch or two more than we did.
So just lots of crazy stuff man

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and I tell you it's been too
long over two weeks in We were

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last recorded, and we have a ton
to unload tonight in all aspects

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of hokey football, but we're
going to start with a couple

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hokey headlines, not related to
football and Brian.

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I didn't get to watch this last
night.

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Following try to follow it.
What an ugly loss to a windlass

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conference eight and seven and
six tables.

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Back Hokies fall 68-63.
I know you got to watch pieces

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of it.
What what was what seems to be

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the issue?
Ooh, I mean, you know, after

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that, great Saint Bonaventure
win in battle and Duke.

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It seems like all the old stuff
is back up.

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Yeah.
I mean I blame a little bit of

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it on the layoffs but I mean
some of this isn't isn't layoff

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related.
You know, you can't miss

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point-blank layups, you can't
miss the easy ones.

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You can't miss that many free
throws.

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You know, naheem just has not
been himself.

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The last probably seven or eight
games.

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You can't hang with him that
long if he's struggling.

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You got to get get somebody else
out there.

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There you can't let someone that
struggling that badly with their

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shot, get that many minutes.
Yeah, I mean, when you, when you

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need, when you need points
generated because other guys

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were, we're also not having
their best night and then you

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got a guy that struggling like
that you got to you got to do

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something different and mix it
up.

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I think Mi kyung's problem right
now is that he's being a little

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too he's giving them a little
too much leash to try to get

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their shot back.
He was doing a little It was

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storm when he was struggling,
he's doing it.

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Now, when I eme, I think just a
quicker hook and mixing things

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up a little bit more with the
lineups could maybe generate

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some more offense, but it was
also a game where NC State for

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about two stretches look like
they couldn't miss.

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So that didn't help that it all
yes.

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All people saying that for a
couple stretches, one of the

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first half and one in the second
essential when they took the

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lead and kept it like Five, six
minutes where it's like every

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shot.
They take her.

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They can't miss and I know me.
And you talked about the heme

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yesterday he shot 18 percent
from the field.

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I mean, it's okay to let guys
try to shoot their way out of

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the funk but it comes to a point
where it's detrimental to the

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team and when you still shoot
40% 43 percent from the field.

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And one guy shoots, you know 18%
in your it's a five-point game.

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Like you said, maybe take
putting somebody else in the

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other piece and I don't think
there's any way to fix this just

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based on how the team's
constructed hey I'm murdered on

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the boards.
Yeah or outrebounded by the

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offensive rebounds were
ridiculous team sport.

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There was a period where there
was there was one offensive

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board on like five or six
straight possessions for it.

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You state.
So it was, it was, it was pretty

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awful.
That, that stretch was pretty

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awful to watch, but, you know, I
still think this team has

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talent, but they dropped so many
games at this point, we're

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seeing a path to the NCAA.
Tournament is its narrow at best

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very narrow.
It's going to have to be

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something like out of the next
12 games and I'm trying to look

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here at the thing.
Yeah.

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The next 12.
Games, which is basically.

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Almost the rest of the regular
season I mean it's gonna have to

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be 10 the 110 win.
I think what we're looking at is

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like I think what they're 16
left I think they need to go 12

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and 4.
Yeah it makes sense.

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Yeah yeah.
Yeah.

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That's pretty much what they
have to do.

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Yeah so we'll see we'll continue
following it and we have our and

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some of those wins need to be
quad one wins.

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So got to beat the upper
echelons.

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All right?
Other news this week, not

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related to what Related to
football, but not related to

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football.
Was John Ledger stepping away?

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He tweeted this out on the third
Hokies, this will come as a

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shock and I hate that as
effective.

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Today, I'm stepping aside as
voices.

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The Hokies, my lifelong passion
has been sportscasting and

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representing.
You has been my joy and

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privilege of a lifetime.
However, when my dad passed, I

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started thinking about wanting
to do more to help people

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primarily through mental health,
advocacy history, I'm over the

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last few months, that urges
grown, this is the hardest thing

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I've ever done, but I feel a
peace knowing all that we can

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do.
I'll be focusing on Mental

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Health initiatives in the short
term but I will be back in the

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booth at some point soon know
that I love you all and will

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always appreciate the faith you
put in me.

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And I respect, you always
treated me with.

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I'll always be a hokie.
Thanks for being there.

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And thanks, always for being so
keys, please.

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Kind of a shocker because he was
in New York just a few days ago

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called game.
Yeah.

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And it's kind of funny because
some people have laser has grown

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on them.
Right.

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We hear that from people lasers.
Growing on me, I think for me

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and you heat it was okay from it
was great from day one.

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We were so used to him here in
Richmond.

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Yeah, that was already we
associated with it.

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Yeah, I think that's a
difference for Richmond folks.

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Is that, you know, you were
already hearing that voice from

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time to time.
In your sphere.

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So there wasn't that much
jarring.

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I mean, you know, you heard
something, you know, it wasn't

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touchdown tech.
But yeah, it was it was it was

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different but we were familiar
enough where it wasn't as

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jarring as it was for probably
some of the the Roanoke, folks,

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the Blacksburg folks other folks
in the NRV that, you know, were

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full on or off disciples and
don't get us wrong Roth is a

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disciple.
If you are A tech fan of our

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age.
So many calls, whether you heard

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them on the radio or later, like
watching the highlights and they

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play it, it's always my Vic's.
One always appeared in

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Morgantown.
But for John, you know, the

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Clear Mountain Air, it started
coming and, you know, whatever's

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going on, you know?
you know, laser is from every

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account anyone's ever had lasers
a great human being Rick even

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being.
And so hopefully I mean, I don't

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know if this means he's going to
come back to Tech or if he's

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going to do other things.
But for him, God bless him.

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Whatever.
He and his wife decide to do, I

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know it looks like they're going
to be going on around the

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country road trip.
Yes, sounds like they're going

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to be hitting all the all the
points of interest throughout

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the country and throughout the
country.

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Are we doing some good shit
around the along the way?

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So good stuff.
Yeah.

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Best of luck to him and on this
next step and hopefully we'll,

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we'll get to see him at least in
Virginia, when everything

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settles down, if not, you know,
back in Blacksburg, so best of

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luck to you, ladies,
abso-freakin'-lutely.

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All right, Brian was cut it off.
And let's jump straight into the

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football.
And let's talk about some of the

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new hires.
And before we get into the big

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new hire brine, it's kind of
been breaking the last couple

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days to names have emerged.
As FrontRunner for the wide

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receiver job.
Mike Brown down at Cincinnati,

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played at Liberty from
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So if Virginia native and Tony
Washington down at kostal, from

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High Point, North Carolina
played down at appstate.

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These, these guys are like in
their 30s, both have NFL

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experience.
They both were in the league

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about three years.
Brown had some significant

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playing time Washington hung
around a few.

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Good practice broad rosters.
In whirling mentioning these

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guys names because this is stuff
that came out in the public.

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Jason Statham you know I used to
write for Rivals rights forever

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other sources.
Now he is set it and I can't

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remember who was who mentioned
Tony Washington out.

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There was a couple there was a
couple guys that mentioned, Tony

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Washington.
I can't remember right off the

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top.
So um, I'm good for either.

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One of these guys.
I'm good for either.

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I'd probably prefer.
Mike Brown It's probably like a

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like, a 60-40 for me Mike Brown
but yeah, I'd be happy either.

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Way here.
I think, Mike seen it, done at a

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little bit higher level in his
current role.

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Well, I think that probably is
probably a little bit more of

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the reason that I'm kind of
leaning that way the mentorship

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he's had, is a little bit more
official.

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In my, in my mind, I mean
back-to-back, I mean,

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back-to-back New Year, six
bowls.

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Yeah.
Welcome back AC titles.

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I mean, you know, we're going to
discuss a little later.

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His, he's got a guy who's a
junior.

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That is sauce is getting heavy,
heavy praise.

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And he's probably going to be
drafted in the first two days.

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And here's the, here's the one
thing on a joke about Brian

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watching, you know, watching
some Coastal games, definitely

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watching more Sensi.
Our wide receivers are still

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going to run block.
Good.

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Did you watch them?
It's but it's all the other

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stuff that, yeah, they do a lot
better, if the stuff you expect

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wide receivers to do, not the
stuff that is, is the nice icing

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on the cake that we've been
getting.

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So, whenever this breaks, which
I think this is probably going

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to come to fruition probably
probably before the next time we

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jump here before before you hear
from us, again, more than likely

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will have a wide receiver coach.
So we can talk about, We'll get

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all right Brian.
When it came out, was about two

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weeks ago.
About a potential offensive line

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coach.
Yeah, we were on watch like just

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before Christmas holidays.
Yeah, but it was about it for

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that is when the smoke started.
Yep.

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Give me the first thought.
Did you think this is bullshit?

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I'm not getting my hopes up when
I first heard Joe Rudolph's

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name.
Floated out there.

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I was like Well, that certainly
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about who a good OC was and we
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that'd be great, right?
Joe Rudolph was my Joe Brady of

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offensive line, so that tells
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that I'm ecstatic.
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So Joe, Brady are shooting Joe
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coach Run game coordinator
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His track record in every sense
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He played offensive line at
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While Barry Alvarez was beaten
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He was part of that early 1990s,
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He then played in the NFL five
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back in 1997 after that took
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into the coaching ranks in 2004
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it's a g a then doing some
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Nebraska goes back home to
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Then we got to know 2012-2014
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Oh, see there with Paul, Chris
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back to Wisconsin where he was
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I guess.
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in the old line.
Coach?

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And man, over that time he has

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lines.
Had blocked for Montee Ball,

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Montee Ball, Jonathan Taylor.
I mean, so many good running

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He had a guy won the Remington

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just a couple years ago.
I mean, I don't know what to say

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because this is one of those
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here and it's just kind of like,
we're going to go get the

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Wisconsin offensive line coach
where you're full of shit

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before.
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probably other.
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would be higher than that would
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Okay, well, you getting got
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coach.
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really the only other coaches?
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terms of prestige made in terms
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program.
The guys they put in the NFL,

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the numbers that they're running
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don't get running back
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offensive line play.
So you can Joe Rudolph.

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Give me the associate head coach
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He's getting the running game
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coaching ol and I mean to me
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terms of establishing what we
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Identity back.
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the full-on ground-and-pound
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going to be more of that kind of
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type type philosophies but
having having a guy that can

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coach that zone but also coach
those Gap techniques so you can.

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of already having a good
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to, you know, strategically set
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things like that.
He's not just been a position

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coach.
So he's already got that

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coordinator experience where
he's coming in partnering with,

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what we believe is going to be
Tyler bow and we haven't still

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got the official announcement,
but I mean everything's out

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there that that's the movie.
We just got to get this

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Jacksonville season over with.
We just got a good one.

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Been done.
Y'all gotta smash them Sunday

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and get to the playoffs.
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And we're going to end Tyler
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going to come to Blacksburg
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But just still I think.
Now in bronze, kind of you kind

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of already talked about the Zone
in the power schemes that

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Rudolph.
They run both.

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I think what you get to do for
the next, what about six weeks?

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Because we're a man about six
weeks from now.

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We're going to do a breakdown
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Yeah, probably.
It's going to be either either

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going to see me doing that
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nothing on the walls behind me,
or at the new house with pretty

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much nothing on the walls behind
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So but either way, Brian gets to
start looking at, you know, we

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already talked about Brad twins.
Howard bone stuff.

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Rudolph stuff.
Probably looking at some JoJo

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Moorhead tape where bones kind
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I mean.
Right now and we don't have the

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wide receiver coach.
We don't have the offensive

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coordinator in name yet, but
let's just talk just a second

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about the staff in general.
It's going to mean so much

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experience, David Cunningham.
Shout-out him.

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He continues to put these
spreadsheet together.

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I think we got, like, 200 years
of experience.

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I'm joking, but we have a ton of
experience at the division.

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One level we have guys who are
really good at what they've

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done.
And I was told Brian, right

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before we got home, you know,
this isn't a buddy, buddy thing.

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Joe Rudolph and Brent pry have
no prior connection.

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If they don't.
You start looking like Brad

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blind?
Yeah, he coached with Brent,

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when they were super young 20
years ago this we must do.

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You hope Chris Marquis aren't
these aren't produce a sip

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situations.
This isn't a produce a situation

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that wasn't core Nelson and
Fuente.

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The closest thing you can say is
a protégé would be Chris Mark.

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Yeah, that's a kid he coached
10-plus years ago at Vanderbilt

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But since in the coaching ranks,
they've had no connection to

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each other.
Yeah, so it's a staff of guys

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that he knows but I thought I
think I mean the only one he's

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coached was significantly is
Bowing in the last five years.

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Yeah. so you kind of sit here
and it's one of those I think

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Brett pride has put together a
very good staff, but I think if

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anyone starts slipping I don't
think Brent Pratt has that

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connection where he want shape
up or shape up or ship out.

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thing is that, you know, he has

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the I mean everybody's going to
Foster from relationships,

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especially as therefore as a
first-time head coach.

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Yeah, you're not going to start
making calls to just random big

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names.
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Like hey you want to come here
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I mean that that's Good way to
miss on the guys you're aiming

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for and then other guys that you
wanted are now getting jobs

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elsewhere, you target the guys
that you've got relationships

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with that, you feel like would
work at the University that

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you're at, want to come there
and then you go seek them out

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and I think, coach prize done a
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Brad Glenn is a great example.
I mean I think from a

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quarterback and passing game
coordinator standpoint, it's a

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good compliment with what we
have at OC and what?

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We now have at offensive line, I
think those are those are going

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to be good.
Compliments to one another you

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know, we're still waiting to
hear on on wide receiver but I

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feel like both of those guys
kind of fit that same mold of,

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you know, and I think again, the
focus on recruiting so they the

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the mold we're looking.
At solid reputation is a on

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field coach.
Most of these guys are above

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average or better recruiters.
Yep, abso-freakin'-lutely.

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And I'll tell you, what else?
Braun lets go to support staff

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because he knocking it out of
the ballpark there.

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Obviously got the white gold on
staff.

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There's a rumor Jarrett Ferguson
was in Blacksburg today.

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Sorry following Galt started
following a couple of their

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Hokey Pokey that he didn't have
on.

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Yeah okey staffers that he
didn't have followed the for ya

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T least ely's but over the time
that we were gone.

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And now if I can't pronounce the
name, right?

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Mike filigrana is going to be
the senior director of player

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Personnel.
He comes over from Marshall

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where he was essentially a GM
and basically assembled their

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recruiting staff, the
highest-rated recruiting staff,

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Have or recruiting in Marshall's
history.

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He had also been director of
recruiting at Mississippi State

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with bleach and Moorhead.
He was with pry up a Penn State

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from 15 to 17 basically in the
recruiting department up there.

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So the way it seems to me is
Mike's role is Mike's, probably

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going to be heading.
Recruiting in some way, under a

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player Personnel?
Is that what you're getting from

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it?
Yeah.

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Yeah.
And you know what, I liked about

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him right off the bat, is that,
you know, he brings the Bona

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fides, but I've also seen him.
He's pretty active on Twitter.

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So he's using social media as a
leveraging tool, pretty, pretty

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off the bat and he's and he's
interacting with fans.

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He's he's like some some post
from fans, retweeted some stuff

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so you like to see that.
From a recruiting side off, the

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field staff perspective.
So that's a good start and I

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thought that was going to be it
in terms of kind of big big

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booze on the off the field
stuff.

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And then we got the news what a
few days ago just like, oh

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Hazel, Michael Hazel, chief of
staff and this was a coup

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because essentially this guy had
been doing the same thing for

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James.
James Franklin for quite a few

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years obviously with prai
fostering a relationship up

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there, he comes down here, he
was the senior director of

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football operations up there and
down here.

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You know, he gets Chief of Staff
like up there.

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He was looking at external
operations analytic facility

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projects, He was the liaison
between football and the

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athletic department marketing.
So it sounds like he is going to

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be the guy.
Why that is going to essentially

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be John Bale on the kids.
He's going to be Brent price

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John beilein and you know you
know had got his I tell you this

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right here this is the one that
He went to Elon, he got his MBA

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from Elan.
He got a masters from Bandy, you

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don't just get to go.
Get your master's from Vandy.

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This guy seems smart and it
seems like he knows what he's

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doing in foreign guy who's going
to be the right hand of the

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coach he needs to know
everything.

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I mean I'm still a little bit
shocked that he left in state.

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Yeah this is a big move.
This is a big-time move to get a

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guy from the program that you're
leaving to kind of follow you in

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in terms of off the field, I
can't really think of a better

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better fit because Is this is a
guy that knows what it takes to

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recruit big-time players to a
similarly positioned University.

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Yep.
And I think that that's

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something that we need
understanding our landscape,

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understanding the benefits and
limitations that Virginia Tech

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has to offer.
And being able to sell that

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properly.
I think that that's huge and,

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and I really don't know of a
better off the field move.

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I couldn't I should say I
couldn't picture a better off

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the field move situation than
we've had recently because it

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tells me that you know we're not
that mom-and-pop recruiting and

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support staff operation anymore.
These are Big Time moves that we

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haven't seen ever.
No, ever.

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And what set it back in with the
spring.

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About the stuff that was going
to be happening, right?

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Yep.
And it's happening.

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Like you said we're no longer
mom-and-pop, it's starting to

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look like a modern-day
Collegiate football program in

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putting all these guys in roles
and I don't know, I think me and

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you probably can't wait probably
most of us out there.

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You probably can't.
Wait, what's going to probably

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happen?
Really in the next month, as you

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start seeing the analysts, as
you start seeing the recruiting

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and how its it's shaped out,
obviously me and Brian have

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thoughts of the way, we like to
see it.

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I'm just interested how it
develops, how Brent price puts

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it together and how he creates
his model.

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All right Brian, let's skip over
this.

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We did have one more hokey,
essentially declare for the

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draft, pay daily transfer.
Although he did have a year of

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Eligibility left Left.
He's 23 years old, he had a

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pretty solid season, you know,
good, take to put out there.

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He's got a Vanderbilt degree.
He's probably got his master's

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from Tech in the next few weeks
here.

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I mean it stinks because you
know now it's some very very

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young back in the safety.
We had some guys play while ago,

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but we're young.
Yeah, I think that's something

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that we need to look into Tay
had a good season.

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I wouldn't call it a great year,
but I mean he played well in

450
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:45,700
spots and there were certainly
times where he was playing as

451
00:27:45,700 --> 00:27:51,000
good or better than everybody
else on the on the field there.

452
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:55,100
So it's a loss certainly.
But we do have some young guys

453
00:27:55,100 --> 00:27:58,900
in that position that are coming
in and coming of age.

454
00:27:59,300 --> 00:28:02,900
So look for them to make some
Make Some Noise this year but

455
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:08,300
congrats to Tay you know once a
hokie always a hokey and you

456
00:28:08,300 --> 00:28:11,100
know go do your thing.
Yes sir.

457
00:28:11,700 --> 00:28:17,600
Best of luck to him and all
everything came in played great,

458
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:22,400
great teammate.
But you know so that that

459
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:27,100
probably is cabinet, you know,
to new to gone by the one guy,

460
00:28:27,100 --> 00:28:31,800
we think probably should come
back but um, the rest of them

461
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:36,700
sometimes it's just time.
Sometimes it's just time to go a

462
00:28:36,708 --> 00:28:38,500
lot of these guys have their
degrees.

463
00:28:38,500 --> 00:28:42,400
It's either now or never you
keep playing college eventually

464
00:28:42,500 --> 00:28:47,300
you know Darrell Smith love to
real Smith but not too many guys

465
00:28:47,300 --> 00:28:51,700
can go you know seven or eight
years in college.

466
00:28:53,100 --> 00:28:56,600
And you know what?
We're going to jump into next

467
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,900
here.
We're going to look at the

468
00:28:59,900 --> 00:29:05,900
portal and you know I buddy read
over from pick six previews

469
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,600
we've already talked about it
but from previews have been

470
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:13,000
keeping real track with it.
In Bryan.

471
00:29:14,300 --> 00:29:19,300
There have been 1,000 entries
into the portal since August, if

472
00:29:19,300 --> 00:29:22,900
a lot of people, a lot of people
in the portal that's a ton of

473
00:29:22,900 --> 00:29:28,100
people in the portal where I
feel for it is I mean there's a

474
00:29:28,100 --> 00:29:30,900
lot of guys declared for the
draft leaving going to be asked

475
00:29:30,900 --> 00:29:33,300
to leave just because they have
their degree.

476
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,500
There's going to be a lot of
kids that don't have anywhere to

477
00:29:37,500 --> 00:29:41,100
land that don't have their
degree that we're giving bad

478
00:29:41,100 --> 00:29:47,600
advice and that's what sucks
because we were talking with our

479
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,700
buddy, Robbie the other day and
it's just like it's free agency

480
00:29:50,700 --> 00:29:54,100
now, create is great.
You don't happens a lot of time

481
00:29:54,100 --> 00:29:57,600
to guys, you go in free agency,
they never get signed again and

482
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,900
ever play again.
That's my fear.

483
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,300
There's gonna be kids out there
and it that just are never going

484
00:30:03,300 --> 00:30:07,300
to find a place to play.
Yeah, that's the concern, you

485
00:30:07,300 --> 00:30:08,500
know?
And obviously, we saw this

486
00:30:08,500 --> 00:30:12,900
coming.
The transfer portal is free

487
00:30:12,900 --> 00:30:16,100
agency for good or ill and I
think it's more or less.

488
00:30:16,100 --> 00:30:20,500
I mean, it does give players
Freedom, which I'm all for, but

489
00:30:20,500 --> 00:30:22,300
obviously, with freedom comes
risk.

490
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,000
So, you know, you take the
safety, net away a little bit as

491
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:31,700
well, in exchange for the fact
that Hey, you can pack up and

492
00:30:31,700 --> 00:30:34,900
move when the when the mood
strikes, you when the when you

493
00:30:34,900 --> 00:30:37,100
feel it is in your best
interest.

494
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,900
But again, you're doing that
with much less of a safety net

495
00:30:41,900 --> 00:30:45,200
than you were before you did
because you can do that before

496
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,700
you have your degree.
You know, you don't have to

497
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,400
think about the decision because
you don't have to sit a year.

498
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:58,700
So there's not that there's less
of a impetus to kind of step out

499
00:30:58,700 --> 00:31:02,400
there and see what's out there
because if something is out

500
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,500
there that that does strike your
fancy, you know, you can make

501
00:31:05,500 --> 00:31:10,000
the move at any time.
So I you know we'll see how this

502
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,300
continues to shake out but let's
go ahead and while we're talking

503
00:31:13,300 --> 00:31:16,500
about the portal let's talk
about some of the positions that

504
00:31:16,500 --> 00:31:23,000
we are targeting and you know,
we had talked about this I think

505
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,500
a couple episodes ago where we
really need to focus.

506
00:31:26,500 --> 00:31:29,100
We I said quarterback was number
one.

507
00:31:30,100 --> 00:31:32,500
We said probably defensive line
was number two.

508
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,900
Offensive line and wide receiver
or probably 3A and 3B.

509
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:46,800
And and the top notched 11, that
we needed to get taken care of 6

510
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,000
p.m. tonight.
Brian, you saw it?

511
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,900
I saw it.
Hooking Nation solid.

512
00:31:52,300 --> 00:31:55,600
That that we can erase that.
Now, go ahead Mark to scribble

513
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,100
QB.
Room is now significantly better

514
00:32:00,100 --> 00:32:03,800
With the commitments of Jason
Brown, coming from South

515
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:08,800
Carolina and Grant Wells coming
over from Marshall.

516
00:32:09,900 --> 00:32:12,800
Who do you want to talk about?
First Prime Jason or Grant?

517
00:32:13,100 --> 00:32:16,800
Let's start with Jason.
Jason first of all, he's coming

518
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,300
home.
This is a Fredericksburg kid

519
00:32:19,300 --> 00:32:24,500
play with Taiwan Garbutt, spent
some of his early years up at FC

520
00:32:24,500 --> 00:32:29,000
St, Francis, where he was a
starting quarterback in 2019.

521
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:34,100
Threw for over 3,000 yards, 62
percent completion percentage,

522
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:39,100
28 touchdowns 600 separations
when the 2020 canceled season

523
00:32:39,100 --> 00:32:43,900
cancelled, he decided to
transfer over to South Carolina

524
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,600
where he started four games this
year went to and to including

525
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:53,900
beating Auburn and Florida.
Seven hundred twenty yards there

526
00:32:54,100 --> 00:32:58,000
by a touchdown six,
interceptions 63 230 pound.

527
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,600
Guy.
So, well, built older guy.

528
00:33:02,700 --> 00:33:07,100
Do you think he is in the lead
as we sit here and they just

529
00:33:07,100 --> 00:33:10,000
drop their commitments to come
to Tech?

530
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,500
That's hard to say.
I feel like so we'll talk about

531
00:33:14,500 --> 00:33:16,600
granting a second.
I feel like Jason.

532
00:33:17,700 --> 00:33:23,200
Is that guy that gives you kind
of a high floor at the

533
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:27,000
quarterback position?
He does a lot of things pretty.

534
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,300
Well, he doesn't make a lot of
mistakes.

535
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,600
He may not win, you a ton of
games but he could, he's a guy

536
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,500
that can go out there manage the
game.

537
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:40,700
Make all the throws won't hurt
you and usually.

538
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,200
Ali, you're going to go home
with the w there so that's what

539
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,600
I like about him.
Obviously being a HomeTown kid,

540
00:33:47,300 --> 00:33:51,500
wanting to play for Tech when he
was in high school you know.

541
00:33:51,500 --> 00:33:57,200
Finally getting you know the the
come around here for for a

542
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:02,400
chance to be a hokie.
So that's big and I'm happy to

543
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,200
have him.
I feel like already that's

544
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,300
that's an upgrade to the
quarterback room.

545
00:34:06,300 --> 00:34:09,699
Even for the 2021 campaign let
alone what we thought we might

546
00:34:09,699 --> 00:34:11,100
be working with in.
Two.

547
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,800
And then at the same time we got
Grant Wells with the commitment

548
00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:20,199
and I feel like he's the he's
the higher higher ceiling guy.

549
00:34:21,199 --> 00:34:27,199
He's had a little bit more
recent playing time playing G5

550
00:34:27,199 --> 00:34:29,900
opponents playing Power, you
know, some power 5 opponents on

551
00:34:29,900 --> 00:34:33,100
that schedule did well.
The only thing I'd like to see

552
00:34:33,100 --> 00:34:34,800
him clean up is the
interceptions.

553
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:39,400
But efficient otherwise, if he
can cut his interceptions in

554
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:44,800
half then We're looking at a
damn high ceiling for for that

555
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:49,300
quarterback, especially if we're
not leaning on him too much,

556
00:34:49,300 --> 00:34:52,500
within the running game.
Yeah, he is.

557
00:34:52,500 --> 00:34:56,000
More of a, he's out of pocket
passer, but he's not a true dual

558
00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:00,600
threat.
He's kind of he's that pocket

559
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:04,700
guy was some wiggle.
Exactly what he is.

560
00:35:04,700 --> 00:35:09,100
Where Jason doesn't have quite
the wiggle, but Jason's 63 230.

561
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,400
So you kind of, it's one of
those things where, you know,

562
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,700
Jason probably can take some
hits, especially plane for games

563
00:35:16,700 --> 00:35:21,500
down in South Carolina, playing
more since we played better

564
00:35:21,500 --> 00:35:25,200
competition, he played Clemson,
he played Auburn, he played

565
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:29,500
Florida, he saw a better
competition and more athletes

566
00:35:29,500 --> 00:35:31,600
than Grant Wells did.
But don't get me wrong, Grant

567
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,200
Wells, you He was the COS a
freshman of the Year back in

568
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:39,900
2020 in his career numbers are
really insane to only play two

569
00:35:39,900 --> 00:35:44,200
years over fifty six hundred
yards over 30 touchdowns you

570
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,000
said it perfectly.
He does have to clean the

571
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,000
interceptions up and the
turnovers in general.

572
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,900
He's also fumbled the ball a lot
but he has.

573
00:35:50,900 --> 00:35:54,500
They both have arms right that
both of their arms are better

574
00:35:54,500 --> 00:35:56,500
than Braxton's.
Are they the appellee?

575
00:35:56,500 --> 00:35:59,900
No, they're not.
But that's okay.

576
00:35:59,900 --> 00:36:02,200
And what we're probably
projecting what we're going to

577
00:36:02,300 --> 00:36:07,300
Be doing on offense the way.
I kind of see it right now is

578
00:36:07,300 --> 00:36:11,000
just because Jason Brown has
played the level of competition.

579
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:15,400
He's going to see week in and
week out here at Tech next year.

580
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,300
I think he's in the lead.
I also think he's in the lead.

581
00:36:19,300 --> 00:36:21,200
He has one year of Eligibility
left.

582
00:36:22,100 --> 00:36:26,300
One year Grant Wells.
Is he just completed his third

583
00:36:26,300 --> 00:36:29,200
freshman year, Brian?
Yeah, that's impressive.

584
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,500
It takes a lot of skill to do
that, so, He has essentially

585
00:36:33,500 --> 00:36:38,200
three seasons left of
Eligibility after this year, and

586
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,000
you have Taj Bullock.
And I'm going to go in through

587
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:44,200
taaj in there Taj has 4 Seasons,
lots of Eligibility so from

588
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,700
where we were looking at, oh my
God, how are we going to figure

589
00:36:46,700 --> 00:36:49,400
this out?
You got your one year, Gap guy

590
00:36:50,500 --> 00:36:55,800
and then you've got a guy who's
played Solid backup.

591
00:36:56,100 --> 00:37:01,700
And then you got the project.
So, that room went from shit

592
00:37:02,500 --> 00:37:06,200
too.
This isn't terrible in.

593
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:10,300
Our backup quarterback situation
is 100 times better than what it

594
00:37:10,300 --> 00:37:11,800
was last year at this point in
time.

595
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,500
Yeah, we actually have your,
regardless of who ends up

596
00:37:14,500 --> 00:37:17,800
winning the job.
You at least have one guy behind

597
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,800
that person, that, you know, can
go in the game and get you, get

598
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,400
you a winner too.
If the starter estimate

599
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:29,100
significant time that, you know,
you won't see us in the You can

600
00:37:29,100 --> 00:37:30,800
drop off.
Like we saw this year where you

601
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:36,800
had to pretty much improvise and
offense around the limitations

602
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,700
of your backup versus
essentially playing playing your

603
00:37:40,700 --> 00:37:43,100
offense with a tweak here or
there.

604
00:37:44,900 --> 00:37:48,400
It's the difference between
calling certain plays that you

605
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,400
know that guys.
It's their bread butter versus

606
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,900
having to tailor the entire
offense around what that guy

607
00:37:53,900 --> 00:37:56,500
does.
Well exact Connor blumrich in

608
00:37:56,500 --> 00:38:01,100
the game you had to tailor the
entire offense. surround power

609
00:38:01,100 --> 00:38:05,200
quarterback runs play action
passes, things like that, there

610
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:12,200
wasn't A whole lot of Rhythm,
none in that offense with Connor

611
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,100
at quarterback, and that's not
Connors fault.

612
00:38:15,100 --> 00:38:18,600
He was put in a situation where
he was the best available option

613
00:38:18,700 --> 00:38:24,900
which is unfortunate but that's
just that's how things shook

614
00:38:24,900 --> 00:38:28,200
out.
Between knox's, injury between

615
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:33,200
Knox, leaving between noxious
limitation between Braxton's

616
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,400
injury, Braxton's limitation
Braxton into the transfer

617
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:40,500
portal.
It'll 20-21 was as bad of a

618
00:38:41,100 --> 00:38:47,600
quarterback situation as we've
seen. probably ever at least

619
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:53,600
since the I'm trying to even
think of wind when it was worse

620
00:38:54,900 --> 00:38:57,300
yet to be the only other time.
It was really this bad.

621
00:38:57,300 --> 00:39:01,500
We were Motley, maybe let me
Molly could play me Molly beat

622
00:39:01,500 --> 00:39:03,600
for to you.
By looking at least throw the

623
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,200
ball, he could make all the
throws.

624
00:39:05,700 --> 00:39:10,900
Can I say in this is no
disrespect but 20 years ago when

625
00:39:10,900 --> 00:39:13,300
thick went down.
Yeah.

626
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,500
No disrespect.
But we didn't have essentially a

627
00:39:18,500 --> 00:39:21,700
backup quarterback.
Michael Vick the front end was

628
00:39:21,700 --> 00:39:28,900
much higher this, all just a
little bit even in the Years

629
00:39:28,900 --> 00:39:32,400
with like doorman and tie rod,
you felt that maybe Tara I'm out

630
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,100
because a couple times Logan had
to come in, he made good passes.

631
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:40,900
So probably 20 years ago is
probably the last time it was as

632
00:39:40,900 --> 00:39:44,000
bad as it was last year because
there was no one behind the Over

633
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,500
one guy.
Yeah, I was thinking maybe I was

634
00:39:46,500 --> 00:39:49,800
thinking like front end
quarterback that has limitations

635
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,400
backup quarterback, that is even
a drop off from that.

636
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,300
That's why I went with the
Brewer Motley thing.

637
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,700
You have at least eight.
I mean, it felt like they could

638
00:39:57,700 --> 00:39:59,700
play.
So who knows, man?

639
00:40:00,300 --> 00:40:02,800
All right, Brian.
The other position we've talked

640
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:07,000
about, and we know two big
offers and things are very

641
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:11,300
interesting, the wide receiver
room, Jaden blue, got a temple

642
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:16,700
hook up, his numbers, Very good
wide receiver has shown, he can

643
00:40:16,700 --> 00:40:21,700
do it against P5 competition and
Antoine Wells from up at JMU

644
00:40:21,700 --> 00:40:27,000
Highland Springs product.
Wells is getting a bunch of buzz

645
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,600
from a lot of schools
everywhere.

646
00:40:29,700 --> 00:40:33,400
Yeah, so, you know, if we, if we
end up pulling that that's a

647
00:40:33,408 --> 00:40:37,800
that's a big pool.
I'm not necessarily put it in

648
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,100
the bank, especially since we
don't have a wide receiver coach

649
00:40:40,100 --> 00:40:44,500
yet, but I'll say this.
Now that we've got a got

650
00:40:44,500 --> 00:40:47,200
quarterbacks it's going to be a
lot easier to start talking two

651
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:52,900
wide receivers because up until
this point it's hard to say.

652
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:58,300
All right come here but we got
Connor blumrich throwing balls

653
00:40:58,300 --> 00:41:04,000
and we got a red shirt freshman
that saw a handful of Series in

654
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:09,500
a bowl game and that's it.
Now, you got two quarterbacks

655
00:41:09,500 --> 00:41:14,000
that have seen a good amount of
time at various schools.

656
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,100
You got something that you can
sell.

657
00:41:17,100 --> 00:41:20,900
Now you get yourself sell to the
wide receivers well, and for

658
00:41:20,900 --> 00:41:24,100
God's like Wells, I think blue
might have two years of

659
00:41:24,100 --> 00:41:26,200
Eligibility left.
I think got to go back and look

660
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:30,200
but a guy like Wells, it's like
you're not going to be screwed

661
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:34,200
next year.
Look at our plan, he's a

662
00:41:34,207 --> 00:41:36,200
freshman.
You have, if you're going to be

663
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:40,100
here three years, you're going
to have a good quarterback and

664
00:41:40,100 --> 00:41:44,200
all points in time.
And you know, you have the kid

665
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,900
from Hawaii went in the pool.
Portal the Wyoming kid who blew

666
00:41:47,900 --> 00:41:54,200
up this year's in the portal?
So you know it's now something

667
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:58,400
you can sell of what you've got.
Can I say something else behind

668
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,200
this drop before?
After you build that run down

669
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:05,200
here, we made an offer to Ryan
Johnson, a DNA out of Stanford

670
00:42:05,500 --> 00:42:10,400
the this afternoon and again
there's your DL.

671
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,500
And that's pretty big that
again.

672
00:42:14,500 --> 00:42:17,000
We're starting to make those
offers trying to kind of see

673
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:22,200
what Brent problems to do.
Nobody's, additionally left in

674
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,700
the last few days but we did
have a confirmation and I know

675
00:42:25,700 --> 00:42:29,500
this makes you feel good.
Maybe not as good as Joe

676
00:42:29,500 --> 00:42:31,300
Rudolph.
It really good solid stance.

677
00:42:31,300 --> 00:42:34,000
He says he's coming back for his
super senior season.

678
00:42:34,300 --> 00:42:36,600
Yep.
That's big for us because that

679
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:40,100
gives us three returning,
offensive lineman, with some

680
00:42:40,100 --> 00:42:43,900
significant playing time.
Time between him and Kate and

681
00:42:43,908 --> 00:42:49,500
more and then Parker Clements.
So getting those three that at

682
00:42:49,500 --> 00:42:51,200
least gives you some
foundational lean on.

683
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,400
We're probably still going to
Target at least one or two

684
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,500
offensive, lineman in the
portal.

685
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,500
Well, we got some younger guys
that are coming in.

686
00:42:59,100 --> 00:43:02,800
We got some guys that have been
in the in the program for a few

687
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,900
years that might be able to step
into that role thinking of a

688
00:43:05,900 --> 00:43:09,800
Jesse Hanson.
Shout out, Matt deal.

689
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:20,400
Man I'm sorry you got drugged it
was a funny one but yeah but I

690
00:43:20,408 --> 00:43:24,900
think Silas coming back to is
now you feel like Alice has

691
00:43:24,900 --> 00:43:30,200
played both tackling guard, he's
played a lot of tackle more than

692
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,900
a lot of people think but he's
really built through to be a

693
00:43:32,900 --> 00:43:35,400
guard.
It's one of those things where

694
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:39,600
you've got you feel like I got
two of the three, two or three.

695
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:44,200
Insiders figured out Clemente
probably can play, I Believe.

696
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:45,500
Guess he's going to be it,
right?

697
00:43:45,500 --> 00:43:48,500
I think we'll probably go after
a left and the portal and

698
00:43:48,500 --> 00:43:50,700
sinners wide open which is a
little scary.

699
00:43:51,700 --> 00:43:54,800
I wish Johnny abroad could come
back for one more season but

700
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:56,600
that's probably not going to
happen.

701
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:04,600
So you know you sit here and
it's just We have three guys who

702
00:44:04,700 --> 00:44:08,200
all had played significant time,
we have a really good offensive,

703
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,400
line coach coming in.
You have guys, you can sell in

704
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:15,000
the portal, you have guys who
are already on the roster, who

705
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,900
may be Rudolph unlocks the
potential in them.

706
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:23,400
So all in all not in the bad
spot on the offensive line I

707
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:24,900
think me and you were worried
likes.

708
00:44:24,900 --> 00:44:33,800
If Silas leaves you your best to
starters are freshmen And that's

709
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,400
scary.
Yeah, I agree.

710
00:44:39,100 --> 00:44:40,900
It's going to be interesting to
see.

711
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,800
If they, who they specifically
Target in the portal.

712
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:50,600
If they target anyone and how
much progression we see in

713
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,500
development that we see in the
spring.

714
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,600
Like, if we see some jumps from
guys, in the spring that we

715
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,100
weren't anticipating.
I think that's a really good

716
00:45:00,100 --> 00:45:04,000
sign.
You know, if we can find, maybe

717
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,900
two other, guys, and again,
you've talked about Silas at

718
00:45:06,900 --> 00:45:12,600
guard, you know, Silas is going
to play whichever a position we

719
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:17,400
needed to play the most, whether
that's left tackle or whether

720
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:21,200
that's guard.
Probably left guard.

721
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,600
So he's either slide in for Lucy
to Smith or he's going to take

722
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:30,000
over for Luke to new de.
What that looks like is going to

723
00:45:30,300 --> 00:45:34,900
is the big question who plays
center is a probably a bigger

724
00:45:34,900 --> 00:45:39,800
question.
I can see his targeting a center

725
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,800
in the portal more that I can
see is targeting other

726
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:46,800
positions.
Just because that's the most

727
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,300
need position that we probably
don't really have.

728
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,300
And established season player on
the roster.

729
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,800
It's true.
So if we if the targeting a

730
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:02,600
player in the portal and we only
we're only taking one.

731
00:46:04,300 --> 00:46:07,900
I'd like to see his take a
center and potentially a left

732
00:46:07,900 --> 00:46:09,300
tackle.
There's not going to be a ton of

733
00:46:09,300 --> 00:46:11,100
left tackles out there in the
portal.

734
00:46:11,100 --> 00:46:14,800
That that's where I would go.
But I'd go center before, left

735
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,900
tackle, because I think Silas
could potentially hold it down

736
00:46:17,900 --> 00:46:21,500
for one season.
All right here that man, I hear

737
00:46:21,500 --> 00:46:25,500
that yeah it'll just be
interesting to see where guys

738
00:46:25,500 --> 00:46:30,900
are transferring out of where
guys are transferring into and

739
00:46:31,300 --> 00:46:35,200
and again it's development
upfront to or combat up front

740
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,100
but a development of who's
there.

741
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:41,400
Yeah.
Because again that's going to

742
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,200
tell a lot if you don't see us
attacking the portal for

743
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:49,600
offensive, lineman a lot.
We can then speculate, we really

744
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:53,000
can speculate for the next three
and a half months.

745
00:46:54,800 --> 00:47:00,600
Who does Joe Rudolph like, and
who's we're on the springing,

746
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,300
the out there on that first
unit.

747
00:47:07,100 --> 00:47:10,300
The question is going to be, you
know, right now we're seeing

748
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,500
guys that are making moves in
the portal right now.

749
00:47:13,900 --> 00:47:18,300
Want to get on the spring
semester with their new team.

750
00:47:18,300 --> 00:47:20,400
They want to get spring practice
under the belt.

751
00:47:20,700 --> 00:47:24,200
There's going to be a bunch of
guys that aren't sure where

752
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,900
they're going.
Haven't got enough B shit where

753
00:47:26,908 --> 00:47:29,500
they feel comfortable, pulling
the trigger.

754
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:34,100
They're going to ride out the
spring and be ready for summer

755
00:47:35,300 --> 00:47:38,800
exactly which helps them and
hurts them in some way.

756
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:43,200
So it helps them because they
get to process.

757
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,700
The transfer portal offers and
make a better decision for

758
00:47:46,700 --> 00:47:50,700
themselves.
It's not as rust of a situation

759
00:47:50,700 --> 00:47:55,000
there but therefore going the
foregoing the chance to get that

760
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:59,000
Spring ball.
Get get their position locked in

761
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,300
heading into fall camp.
They instead of having to go

762
00:48:01,300 --> 00:48:02,800
into fall camp for, they got to
earn it.

763
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,500
It's true.
But the other piece is with

764
00:48:05,500 --> 00:48:08,600
Spring ball in.
For example, let's say we don't

765
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,400
come out and we don't have a
starting center.

766
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,000
We don't have another starting
tackle or guard.

767
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:16,300
You go.
Put your name in the portal,

768
00:48:16,300 --> 00:48:22,100
then look at his tape, he
started for two seasons, ain't

769
00:48:22,100 --> 00:48:27,100
All-American but We just looked
at Spring and what we saw and it

770
00:48:27,100 --> 00:48:29,900
won't great.
So let's go get someone who

771
00:48:29,908 --> 00:48:34,000
going to tape we have so yeah.
All right Brian before we get

772
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,000
into wrapping up the bowl and
taking up looking at a few other

773
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,600
topics.
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00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,100
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Now back to the episode All

783
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:13,400
right, so the Pinstripe Bowl,
wrap brine.

784
00:49:14,100 --> 00:49:18,000
Let's start this.
Even though we are not Yankees

785
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,000
fans by any stretch of the
imagination.

786
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,300
Nope.
Any stretch of the imagination.

787
00:49:24,900 --> 00:49:28,000
The helmets that they did were
cool as hell.

788
00:49:29,300 --> 00:49:30,600
Yeah.
Some of the, some of the coolest

789
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,400
elements that we've seen, in
terms of alternate logos and

790
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:37,200
things like that, getting the
Yankee NY on there.

791
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:44,000
That's pretty cool to see, you
know, hearkens back to when the

792
00:49:44,008 --> 00:49:48,600
Yankees came down to Blacksburg,
we're in the maroon and orange.

793
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:53,400
So that was that was really kind
of big, probably one of the

794
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,000
better.
Like I said, better alternate

795
00:49:55,000 --> 00:50:02,300
design helmets that we've had So
shout out to to the the folks

796
00:50:02,300 --> 00:50:05,700
behind that team Clark and
everybody else.

797
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,900
Yeah, big shout out whoever
designed it.

798
00:50:08,900 --> 00:50:13,800
It looked great on.
I'm I am sure if one of those

799
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:17,600
ever sneaks out of buildings at
things going to fetch a lot of

800
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,800
money because they said they
were not going to auction them

801
00:50:19,808 --> 00:50:23,800
off or sell them so that tells
me that they're going to people

802
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,600
whatever.
All right, well let's talk about

803
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:28,900
the game itself.
Brian it was an ugly.

804
00:50:28,900 --> 00:50:33,600
Ugly game really ugly, Hokies
lose fifty four to ten and run.

805
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,400
I want to go through our game
plan and let's see what, how

806
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:40,100
many X's we get?
First of all, we had to field a

807
00:50:40,100 --> 00:50:42,400
team.
Barely.

808
00:50:42,500 --> 00:50:47,700
We did clearly clear.
That bar barely Guys like Dwayne

809
00:50:47,700 --> 00:50:51,100
Lofton didn't play several other
guys didn't play.

810
00:50:51,900 --> 00:50:55,000
And I think that was nobody
heard nobody had sent home.

811
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:58,000
We were thinner than we thought
we were going to be and we

812
00:50:58,000 --> 00:50:59,600
already knew we were going to be
thin.

813
00:51:00,100 --> 00:51:03,700
Yeah, we had starting offensive
tackles playing defensive tackle

814
00:51:03,700 --> 00:51:09,000
near the end of the game and you
know, with all the opt-outs we

815
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:12,700
had.
You know, in the time of covid

816
00:51:12,700 --> 00:51:17,400
where it was right before all
the new guidelines came down.

817
00:51:18,900 --> 00:51:23,900
We were super thin and you know
it showed in the game plan.

818
00:51:24,300 --> 00:51:28,100
And speaking of the game plan,
one of our big game plans

819
00:51:28,100 --> 00:51:32,900
problem was we said, hey, we
need to control the clock.

820
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:38,700
We got to control the clock in
this game and, you know, we kind

821
00:51:38,700 --> 00:51:43,300
of did it rhyme, you know, we
all possess them 34 to 2030

822
00:51:43,700 --> 00:51:47,500
4226.
There's a reason we did that

823
00:51:47,500 --> 00:51:51,000
though.
There is, but it was one of our

824
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:59,300
keys and we did it.
The reason we did it is because

825
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:04,400
we could not limit big passing
plays or just big plays in

826
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,900
general, the entire game on
defense.

827
00:52:07,500 --> 00:52:10,200
Oh yeah, I mean, the last two
points we talked about for our

828
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:14,600
defense was Bend, don't break
and limit the big passing plays.

829
00:52:15,500 --> 00:52:19,000
We broke a lot and a lot of
those were big passing plays

830
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:23,200
deep down the field for
touchdowns.

831
00:52:24,300 --> 00:52:30,500
And 70 plus yard runs.
Multiple receptions over 25

832
00:52:31,100 --> 00:52:34,600
yards.
Multiple runs over, 20 yards.

833
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:40,000
Punt returns of 90 plus yards.
Yep.

834
00:52:40,500 --> 00:52:44,300
Yeah.
Um and I think what kind of me

835
00:52:44,300 --> 00:52:47,000
and you were talking about the
bend don't break in limiting.

836
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,600
Those big passing plays.
You said, straight up Brian.

837
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:52,400
Like we need to run cover three
quarters old game.

838
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:56,500
I saw a lot of man I saw on a
single highs.

839
00:52:56,700 --> 00:53:00,100
Maya is did you see that or is
it just me not knowing what I'm

840
00:53:00,100 --> 00:53:02,600
looking at.
There was some of that some of

841
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,800
the some of it was covered three
that because of their alignment

842
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:10,400
became De facto single high
based on the routes that were

843
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:14,100
ran and the alignment of the
wide receivers, someone was just

844
00:53:14,100 --> 00:53:17,300
bad technique.
Some of it was just perfect play

845
00:53:17,300 --> 00:53:22,400
call against that defense call
or the defensive call that time.

846
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:29,100
And so it was just sloppy play
and you get that when you have

847
00:53:29,100 --> 00:53:33,500
guys that are playing more snaps
than they're used to, but to me,

848
00:53:34,700 --> 00:53:39,800
The offense, I give a little bit
of a mulligan, the players, the

849
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,200
players, your defense, the
defense.

850
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,800
I don't, I don't give them a
whole lot of a pass here.

851
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:49,700
I feel like there were enough
guys that had played significant

852
00:53:49,700 --> 00:53:53,400
snaps on the defense that they
should have had more life than

853
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:56,500
they had.
If they had given up 38 points,

854
00:53:56,500 --> 00:53:59,500
maybe 38 or less, I'd be like.
All right, well, that's not a

855
00:53:59,508 --> 00:54:04,300
bad effort, considering the
thinness and losing a couple.

856
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:09,100
Outline players.
What I mean, it's the extra two

857
00:54:09,100 --> 00:54:11,800
or three touchdowns there, that
really makes the difference.

858
00:54:12,500 --> 00:54:14,700
And what was it?
Would have been a respectable

859
00:54:14,700 --> 00:54:19,500
outcome versus the clown show
that we saw now on offense?

860
00:54:19,500 --> 00:54:21,600
The thing that I've got to
criticism for is the thing.

861
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:26,700
I've criticized the whole year,
the play go with the play

862
00:54:26,700 --> 00:54:28,200
caller.
Yeah, three years.

863
00:54:28,500 --> 00:54:30,200
Five years.
Yeah.

864
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:35,800
And my big thing is that.
Yeah, you started Connor, but

865
00:54:36,300 --> 00:54:41,500
This was not a empty the clip,
throw everything but the kitchen

866
00:54:41,500 --> 00:54:46,400
sink at Maryland.
This this was a we do over one

867
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:50,700
borderline conservative, do we
do the same offense that we saw

868
00:54:51,500 --> 00:54:55,000
rolled out against Miami and
UVA.

869
00:54:55,000 --> 00:55:00,900
We saw rolled out against
Maryland and there wasn't any

870
00:55:01,500 --> 00:55:05,500
significant wrinkles added in
there to give any sort of new

871
00:55:05,500 --> 00:55:09,400
look.
There wasn't as much of an

872
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:13,000
emphasis on the running game.
I feel is there should have been

873
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,100
in terms of getting the ball to
the running backs.

874
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,700
And I thought there was some
opportunity to get the short

875
00:55:20,700 --> 00:55:23,200
passing game involved, which we
haven't done all year and we

876
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,000
didn't do again.
You'll do again.

877
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:27,900
Yeah.
It was it was same old, same

878
00:55:27,900 --> 00:55:29,300
old.
And for a guy who potential is

879
00:55:29,308 --> 00:55:31,400
coaching for his job, there were
no tricks.

880
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:34,500
There were no interesting.
And I know people were saying,

881
00:55:34,900 --> 00:55:37,800
well, look what we've got here.
Here, you know what can we do?

882
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:42,100
Well, that's the thing.
You look at what you've got and

883
00:55:42,100 --> 00:55:44,400
if you even don't have that
much, you still say, we're going

884
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,000
to dial up some things, we're
going to do some different, and

885
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,600
we're going to take some risks
because you are playing for,

886
00:55:50,700 --> 00:55:53,700
it's a bowl.
You're not playing for a

887
00:55:53,700 --> 00:55:55,900
championship, you're just
playing a football game.

888
00:55:55,900 --> 00:55:59,600
It's the last one of the seasons
and it's like no we're just

889
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:01,400
going to do this.
We're going to do the same old.

890
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,300
Simple game Plants going to
work.

891
00:56:03,700 --> 00:56:06,700
No trick plays.
No you know, double reverse

892
00:56:06,700 --> 00:56:10,700
passes, anything like that.
It was literally I'm just

893
00:56:10,700 --> 00:56:12,900
calling these eight plays on a
place.

894
00:56:12,900 --> 00:56:16,100
She and I'm trying to get out of
here as quick as I can.

895
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:21,800
And, you know, yeah, I say he
keep play called his way into a

896
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,300
high school job.
Ooh.

897
00:56:25,300 --> 00:56:27,700
Ooh.
Um, there was a Jamie Pete.

898
00:56:27,700 --> 00:56:30,400
Citing heck of a catch by him on
the sidelines.

899
00:56:30,700 --> 00:56:34,800
Yeah.
Malachi Thomas had, you know,

900
00:56:35,500 --> 00:56:37,900
Malik has a freshman.
And I think what we saw those

901
00:56:37,900 --> 00:56:43,300
last few weeks was a freshman
body hitting the wall like so

902
00:56:43,300 --> 00:56:51,500
many times but You know, plumber
it did the best he could.

903
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,700
And should have been a quicker
hook to ties your my opinion.

904
00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:00,000
If you weren't gonna, if that's
the offense, you're going to

905
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:03,100
call, then you should have
gotten Taj in there sooner.

906
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:06,900
Every fourth drive, it should
have been every fourth drive.

907
00:57:06,900 --> 00:57:10,500
He should have been out there
running think not going in

908
00:57:10,500 --> 00:57:12,800
handing the ball off and then
running off the field.

909
00:57:12,900 --> 00:57:14,000
He did finally.
Come on.

910
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:17,600
Had a couple passes completed.
The only seven wash ran the ball

911
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:22,200
a few times.
Definitely, I will say this.

912
00:57:22,700 --> 00:57:24,800
Look at that.
Was like the out pass.

913
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:28,500
He threw like 15-yarder making
that up.

914
00:57:28,700 --> 00:57:32,200
Nah.
That ball had some zip on it and

915
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:33,100
you do it.
Nice.

916
00:57:33,100 --> 00:57:36,600
On the back shoulder to kind of
not Connor.

917
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:39,400
Blundering.
Luke bustle the walk on.

918
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:41,900
Yep.
Very nice-looking passes.

919
00:57:42,900 --> 00:57:47,100
Yeah, you did have the like,
what, one overthrow on the

920
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,400
little dump.
Yeah.

921
00:57:49,700 --> 00:57:52,600
So you know there's things to
work on probably, you know,

922
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,800
working on a touch a little bit
and things like that but you

923
00:57:55,808 --> 00:57:58,500
know when he got his read knew
where he wanted, what knew what

924
00:57:58,500 --> 00:57:59,800
he wanted to do with a football
right away.

925
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:04,800
Way and was able to step up and
make the throw it looked pretty

926
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:06,900
good.
You know, there's still

927
00:58:07,100 --> 00:58:11,300
obviously things to polish their
but that's what spring balls

928
00:58:11,300 --> 00:58:16,200
for, that's what fall camps for.
And that's what probably one

929
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:20,500
more year of sitting behind
somebody's for, I'll follow you

930
00:58:20,500 --> 00:58:23,700
guys.
Also, he's getting much better

931
00:58:23,700 --> 00:58:24,800
coaching staff.
Now.

932
00:58:25,100 --> 00:58:28,600
Yeah, he's going to coaching
staff that honestly based on his

933
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:35,200
frame and his tools is more more
designed to take advantage of

934
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:40,200
the skills that he has.
So, you know, I think what what

935
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:43,100
we're getting with with Bragg
Glenn and what, what we're

936
00:58:43,100 --> 00:58:46,500
getting with with Tyler Bowen,
and what he likes to do in that

937
00:58:46,500 --> 00:58:54,800
system can really work to the
skill, set that bullet yeah, I

938
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:59,600
think that's gonna it's going to
play play, play to his skill set

939
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:03,700
a little bit more and you know
it won't be a run read run go

940
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:10,300
offense anymore so Not at all.
And you know, the one thing I'll

941
00:59:10,300 --> 00:59:15,100
also say Brian, I think every
player we hit on had Maryland

942
00:59:15,100 --> 00:59:18,100
had a good game at some way
shape or fashion.

943
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:22,600
I hate being right.
But that we you know, every

944
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:27,800
every week we sit here guys and
we we sort of we kind of

945
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:33,800
independently look and then
decide who were going to get and

946
00:59:34,300 --> 00:59:38,800
I mean we hit like obviously the
Back lit up running back, have a

947
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:41,300
nice day.
You know, Darryl Jones was not

948
00:59:41,300 --> 00:59:43,100
on our radar.
Shout out to that kid from the

949
00:59:43,100 --> 00:59:49,600
757, having a hell of a day
against the, the Hokies, you

950
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:53,800
know, what can you say?
They played great, they had a

951
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:58,200
full staff.
They had everyone vested Mike's

952
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:01,000
Loxley is still 26 games under
500.

953
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:05,000
He could win 10 games, the next
Four Seasons, he still wouldn't

954
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:09,900
break 500.
You know, that I don't think

955
01:00:09,900 --> 01:00:12,800
like locksley and that stuff,
they had, they called a great

956
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:15,900
game against a depleted team and
that's all I guess they've.

957
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:18,900
Yeah, I don't think that's an
indication that they're taking

958
01:00:18,900 --> 01:00:22,600
another step.
I think that's just, you know,

959
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:26,000
they play the team that was
already down numbers and they

960
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:30,900
were down some more and they had
an interim head coach, and they

961
01:00:30,900 --> 01:00:34,300
were starting their essentially
third-string quarterback, that

962
01:00:34,300 --> 01:00:38,600
probably should be an HVAC.
There's a lot of things going on

963
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:42,500
that are playing into that.
So, you know, locksley and I

964
01:00:42,500 --> 01:00:45,800
know Marilyn, social media had a
lot of fun with that, but oh,

965
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,500
yeah, the prophet thing, they
had fun with that.

966
01:00:48,500 --> 01:00:50,400
Yeah, they were beat.
They were beating the shit out

967
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:54,700
of their chests for, for being a
team that was down like 20, 20

968
01:00:54,700 --> 01:01:00,300
players, a 10-plus starters and,
yeah, it was good job.

969
01:01:00,300 --> 01:01:02,600
Good job, Maryland.
Well, the Penn State folks were

970
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:05,200
then just ripping them
especially about the private

971
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:08,400
because you'll cry on.
The 70-yard touchdown and they

972
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:10,200
were like, yeah, we see what it
is.

973
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:14,500
He smacked y'all multiple years
in a row so you can come out and

974
01:01:14,500 --> 01:01:15,500
like this.
All right.

975
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:18,400
And you remember I think he'd
it's didn't Stout even say

976
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:21,800
something about it.
Yes, that's that's um, just

977
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:27,900
remember 2026 right after you
just remember that Mike locksley

978
01:01:27,900 --> 01:01:30,000
will not be the head coach of
Maryland by the time we played

979
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:34,400
them.
If he is they are, you know,

980
01:01:34,700 --> 01:01:37,300
they want to be mediocre which
they are.

981
01:01:37,700 --> 01:01:40,100
All right Brian, let's hit a few
other topics here.

982
01:01:42,100 --> 01:01:45,500
The playoff games.
Let's talk about the Cotton Bowl

983
01:01:45,500 --> 01:01:47,300
first.
Bama Cincinnati.

984
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:52,100
What's your take on that?
Just You know, I thought that

985
01:01:52,100 --> 01:01:55,600
Cincinnati played pretty well
overall, especially on defense.

986
01:01:57,000 --> 01:02:02,500
Just what you saw with what Bama
was able to do on both sides on

987
01:02:02,500 --> 01:02:05,000
the trenches is where the
differentiator was.

988
01:02:05,500 --> 01:02:09,100
Yes, once they got a decently,
they were able to just grind the

989
01:02:09,100 --> 01:02:13,400
game out on offense and they
were able to dominate Cincinnati

990
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:15,100
upfront with their defensive
line.

991
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:19,200
And their friends seven Kim.
Can I ask this into something,

992
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:21,600
you know, everybody to White Vic
kept talking about?

993
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:23,700
He said he loves to run those
three man.

994
01:02:23,700 --> 01:02:25,800
He loved to play against three
men fronts.

995
01:02:28,100 --> 01:02:31,400
Were you shocked at Bickle and
that defensive staff didn't

996
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:34,100
adjust?
Because my thought was, could

997
01:02:34,100 --> 01:02:37,100
you take one of those outside
linebackers and that 335

998
01:02:37,100 --> 01:02:41,400
stacking almost make them like a
9 or an 8 in shift, shift,

999
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:44,500
everybody different gaps?
They never did it now.

1000
01:02:44,500 --> 01:02:47,300
And I think if you still had
Marcus Freeman, you would have

1001
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:55,400
Okay, because he was he was
known that despite the the base

1002
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:57,500
alignment, he would throw
different fronts at you

1003
01:02:57,500 --> 01:03:00,300
especially if he saw problems
that we're going on.

1004
01:03:00,300 --> 01:03:03,800
So I think if you still had
Marcus there, you would have

1005
01:03:03,808 --> 01:03:07,900
probably seen that adjustment.
That's I'm not, I'm not trying

1006
01:03:07,900 --> 01:03:12,300
to knock here but I think just
the feel of it and the flow of

1007
01:03:12,300 --> 01:03:13,600
it.
I would have probably got more

1008
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:17,900
guys on the line of scrimmage
and taking my chances that we'd

1009
01:03:17,900 --> 01:03:19,500
be able to To get them before
they got past.

1010
01:03:19,500 --> 01:03:26,600
The second level also think that
saving is what he is.

1011
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:29,700
He had a month to prepare.
He saw how good those

1012
01:03:29,700 --> 01:03:33,600
quarterbacks were he was without
Michi his best wide receiver.

1013
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:36,200
He wasn't going to challenge
them that much.

1014
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:39,500
He wouldn't go to go out there
and say almost just sling around

1015
01:03:39,500 --> 01:03:41,200
all day.
Not we're going to run the ball,

1016
01:03:41,500 --> 01:03:43,200
we have more Joe's than they
had.

1017
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:44,400
We're just going to grind them
down.

1018
01:03:45,300 --> 01:03:48,700
Now.
The Orange Bowl.

1019
01:03:51,100 --> 01:03:55,900
I mean I hate to say this
Georgia just used the game plan.

1020
01:03:55,900 --> 01:03:59,800
They should have used Monday,
they have played the game plan

1021
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:02,500
up to show Alabama.
Hey here's how we can beat you

1022
01:04:02,500 --> 01:04:04,300
guys.
Quick short passes will running

1023
01:04:04,300 --> 01:04:06,700
games and taking shots over the
top occasionally.

1024
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:08,800
But what does the quick short
pass do?

1025
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:13,300
I mean so so Michigan.
If you do with the gate will

1026
01:04:13,300 --> 01:04:17,700
Anderson exactly.
You can't, you can't impact the

1027
01:04:17,700 --> 01:04:20,300
quarterback at the balls on in
the quarterbacks hands anymore

1028
01:04:20,300 --> 01:04:24,000
and you Right.
And you saw it.

1029
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:27,200
I mean Hutchinson I mean that
guy's going to be a stud NFL

1030
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:29,900
player.
Don't get me wrong, he is.

1031
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:36,300
But to me Kirby Smart.
Again, they had that month to

1032
01:04:36,300 --> 01:04:39,100
prepare.
He knew what he had to do, but

1033
01:04:39,100 --> 01:04:41,200
he laid the game playing, this
can beat Alabama.

1034
01:04:41,500 --> 01:04:44,900
He gave Nick Saban a week to
say, oh you're going to do this

1035
01:04:45,300 --> 01:04:47,700
watch for a lot of press in that
game.

1036
01:04:48,100 --> 01:04:50,500
Watch for a lot of, get your
hands over here.

1037
01:04:51,100 --> 01:04:52,900
Don't come up because he's
trying to get them out here.

1038
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:56,700
Here where they did.
If they ran their normal

1039
01:04:56,700 --> 01:04:59,200
offense, they would have beat
Michigan.

1040
01:04:59,500 --> 01:05:01,900
It would not have been a
blowout, but they would have

1041
01:05:01,900 --> 01:05:06,800
beat Michigan.
And I don't I don't get that,

1042
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:09,700
maybe it's one of those things
where they thought, well, if

1043
01:05:09,700 --> 01:05:11,900
they're hidden, some of those
trick plays and some of those

1044
01:05:11,900 --> 01:05:17,800
into rounds and they get to the
mid-20s, we've got a score, it

1045
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:20,300
shows pretty early.
I don't think they, I don't

1046
01:05:20,300 --> 01:05:23,000
think they thought that
Michigan.

1047
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:25,100
I think they thought Michigan
was going to be able to score

1048
01:05:25,100 --> 01:05:28,300
more, so they thought they had
to match on point for point.

1049
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:34,300
So ultimately, because they were
able to get them out of the game

1050
01:05:34,300 --> 01:05:37,900
a little bit early, they were
able to Feast on them in the way

1051
01:05:37,900 --> 01:05:42,600
that that defense likes to yes.
So once it once they got the

1052
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:46,200
lead, it really played into that
defense has strengths which is

1053
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:51,000
the opposite of what happened in
the the Bama Georgia game in the

1054
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:55,000
SEC Championship.
So, yeah, I think, I think

1055
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:58,200
that's the big thing in Georgia
is going to need to do that

1056
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:00,100
again.
They're going to need to in my

1057
01:06:00,100 --> 01:06:01,700
opinion.
If they're gonna win that game,

1058
01:06:01,700 --> 01:06:03,900
they need a lead.
Late.

1059
01:06:03,900 --> 01:06:07,300
Second quarter.
Something to keep keep that

1060
01:06:07,300 --> 01:06:12,600
game, slow down get bad.
My little bit out of their game

1061
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:18,100
plan because band was going to
be a I think again is going to

1062
01:06:18,100 --> 01:06:20,800
want to run the football.
Well they're going to run the

1063
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:22,700
football but they're going to
they're going to throw it like

1064
01:06:22,700 --> 01:06:27,900
they did and that first game.
What Bama did is Bam has got the

1065
01:06:27,900 --> 01:06:32,000
blueprint.
The question is, can Kirby a

1066
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:37,900
just enough to take away that
Without without exposing other

1067
01:06:37,900 --> 01:06:42,100
parts of his game which savings
and chess master because if he

1068
01:06:42,100 --> 01:06:45,900
see, I think Kirby's going to do
this, he's going to have the

1069
01:06:45,900 --> 01:06:49,500
game plan already laid out of
what him and bother going to.

1070
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:51,900
All right.
Can we just say this prayer on

1071
01:06:52,700 --> 01:06:57,100
what we're talking about?
Now is y12 is a better format.

1072
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:01,400
We're talking about so much time
to prepare so much time to get

1073
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:04,000
ready.
Savings guy, saving and Kirby,

1074
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:05,900
Smart both have thousands of
analysts.

1075
01:07:05,900 --> 01:07:07,700
They really don't have
thousands, but they have a lot

1076
01:07:07,700 --> 01:07:12,200
of Staff.
Where if you go when it goes to

1077
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:18,500
12 and I truly believe it's
going to go to 12 before, 2025,

1078
01:07:19,700 --> 01:07:23,100
you're not going to have that
time anymore because on the 12

1079
01:07:23,100 --> 01:07:25,200
models, you're going to have
probably two weeks, right?

1080
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:27,200
Two weeks is going to be the
longest span.

1081
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:31,200
You have to Weeks to four weeks.
And in that case, I know

1082
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:33,300
somebody says, well, that's a
lot of time to break things

1083
01:07:33,300 --> 01:07:35,500
down.
It's a lot of time to break

1084
01:07:35,500 --> 01:07:40,000
things down, but what it's not a
lot of time to do is to

1085
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:42,900
implement the game plan, right?
Yep.

1086
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:47,300
You can't move, you can't do a
week of break down a week of

1087
01:07:47,300 --> 01:07:49,800
installation and then two weeks
of practice.

1088
01:07:50,500 --> 01:07:54,100
Yeah.
And that's why I still think

1089
01:07:54,100 --> 01:07:58,100
going to the 12 model which
we're going to get probably some

1090
01:07:58,100 --> 01:08:00,700
time into the spring when we
have one of these weeks.

1091
01:08:00,700 --> 01:08:03,000
I thought Brian, what were you
doing the day?

1092
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:05,800
I sent you.
Like 19 text like this long.

1093
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:11,500
Each your phone drops up.
I'm trying to let you come back

1094
01:08:11,500 --> 01:08:13,200
to me and you're like, hey, dude
everything.

1095
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:15,700
Okay, all right.
Oh sorry, could you like I'm

1096
01:08:15,700 --> 01:08:17,700
doing something like oh shit.
Sorry bro.

1097
01:08:17,899 --> 01:08:20,000
Yeah, for you.
What I was doing, he was doing

1098
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:24,899
something and I, and I I sent
him a ton of text about the way

1099
01:08:24,899 --> 01:08:28,200
12 has to break down and we'll
do that later but that whole

1100
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:32,000
having not having as much time
is where it's going to give the

1101
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:35,600
Lesser teams and Advantage
because when you give, Nick

1102
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:39,399
Saban or Kirby Smart all that
time, to break it down,

1103
01:08:39,700 --> 01:08:43,899
implement it run practices
implementing it, that's why they

1104
01:08:43,899 --> 01:08:47,700
win.
That's why they're so damn good.

1105
01:08:49,399 --> 01:08:54,000
Let's hit this other Hot Topic
Brown because it It was so hot

1106
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:58,100
over the past real 10 days, the
bowl opt out.

1107
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:01,399
What's your feeling on?
This is a guy who plays.

1108
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:08,000
Oh man, I've said a lot about
this on Twitter off, Twitter

1109
01:09:08,300 --> 01:09:11,500
around Twitter.
So anybody that's seen what I've

1110
01:09:11,500 --> 01:09:15,000
said, probably either already
knows what I'm going to say and

1111
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:22,399
hates it or loves it but To me,
I think the problem that we have

1112
01:09:22,399 --> 01:09:28,000
is that we wrap the bowls in,
with the current playoff format,

1113
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:32,100
and then say these bowls that
used to matter no longer matter,

1114
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:33,300
okay?
Yeah.

1115
01:09:33,300 --> 01:09:37,399
Because you've wrapped them into
the same package that you have

1116
01:09:38,100 --> 01:09:39,600
with this college football,
playoff.

1117
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:42,800
But obviously, the playoff games
matter more, they mean more.

1118
01:09:44,100 --> 01:09:49,200
And when you had a scenario
before, with the BCS, you had

1119
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:54,900
two teams more or less that
we're playing for it all, but

1120
01:09:54,900 --> 01:09:57,300
New Year 6 still mattered to a
degree.

1121
01:10:00,300 --> 01:10:03,200
It matters less now with the,
with the current format in my

1122
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:05,300
opinion.
If you're not in the, if you're

1123
01:10:05,300 --> 01:10:08,900
not in those college football
playoff games, the new year, six

1124
01:10:08,900 --> 01:10:14,200
game mattered, Less in terms of
prestige in terms of players

1125
01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:19,000
wanting to go there and and the
opt-out so the opt-outs, I

1126
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:21,900
support the opt-outs.
I'm not anti opt-out.

1127
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:24,600
I personally wouldn't be a
person opting out of these

1128
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:29,100
games.
That's because that's I'm an

1129
01:10:29,100 --> 01:10:31,000
experienced guy.
If I've got a chance to

1130
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:33,100
experience something, I'm going
to take advantage of that.

1131
01:10:33,100 --> 01:10:38,100
I didn't get seriously injured
enough in my career, where I

1132
01:10:38,100 --> 01:10:40,400
would have been too had that in
the back of my mind.

1133
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:45,200
I had one, I had one, Serious
injury, and a couple injuries

1134
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:49,700
that kept me out of game or two.
I was never injured to the point

1135
01:10:49,700 --> 01:10:55,800
where I was missing, you know,
10 plus games or anything like

1136
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:59,500
that.
That I had lingering injuries

1137
01:10:59,500 --> 01:11:06,800
that cost me things and probably
limited My overall ability but I

1138
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:10,500
never had anything catastrophic
that kept me from playing games.

1139
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:14,800
Except for one again, one injury
that that I talk in there.

1140
01:11:15,100 --> 01:11:16,400
Yeah, your ankle.
Yeah.

1141
01:11:17,100 --> 01:11:19,300
And that was nearly a thousand
that was half.

1142
01:11:19,300 --> 01:11:22,100
That was halfway through the
next to last game of the season,

1143
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:26,300
my senior year.
So yeah, so I missed a game and

1144
01:11:26,300 --> 01:11:29,000
a half for that.
I missed an entire offseason

1145
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:32,500
recovering, so really, when I
rolled into my freshman year

1146
01:11:32,500 --> 01:11:35,800
hampden-sydney, I was pretty
much not in the shape.

1147
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:39,800
I'd like to be in a boot
forever.

1148
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:42,500
Yeah.
So But like, that's neither here

1149
01:11:42,500 --> 01:11:46,900
nor there but I but when it
comes to bowls, you know, that's

1150
01:11:46,900 --> 01:11:50,300
something, just the experience
of it would be a big deal for

1151
01:11:50,300 --> 01:11:55,600
me, but if you know, if my bank
is is dependent on that in my

1152
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:58,400
family is depending on, you
know, me doing something.

1153
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:02,200
And even guys that are kind of
that Fringe draft player that

1154
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:08,100
are opting out hoping to just
make a camp as an undrafted free

1155
01:12:08,100 --> 01:12:11,600
agent.
I mean, you're not going to do

1156
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:14,600
that if you get injured and I
know, you know, we can talk

1157
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:19,600
about, you know, one
catastrophic injury in the bowls

1158
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:22,100
being a big deal and it's
missing.

1159
01:12:22,500 --> 01:12:27,200
Yeah.
So with McGee all of that mess.

1160
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:31,800
Yeah.
So I mean there's always the

1161
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:36,400
chance of that happening but in
my get the people say, well if

1162
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:39,900
that's going to happen, I want
to be playing for something. um,

1163
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:45,000
Again, this, this is why I go
towards the 12 team playoff

1164
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:50,300
because you can you can get more
of those those formatted games

1165
01:12:50,300 --> 01:12:55,100
in there and something.
Yeah, they mean something more

1166
01:12:55,100 --> 01:12:58,100
games mean something that's
going to limit the opt-outs.

1167
01:12:58,100 --> 01:13:02,200
So that'll help your, your
school's roster your school's

1168
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:03,900
ability to be competitive in
those games.

1169
01:13:03,900 --> 01:13:09,100
And, you know, again, I'm not
for getting rid of the bowl

1170
01:13:09,100 --> 01:13:13,500
format all together, but I
think, I think we need to stop

1171
01:13:13,500 --> 01:13:20,300
kidding ourselves that You know,
bowl games matter if you want to

1172
01:13:20,300 --> 01:13:22,800
attend them, I don't think they
matter outside of that.

1173
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:26,500
I don't think you necessarily
oh, your team.

1174
01:13:28,100 --> 01:13:30,800
A exhibition game.
If you have bigger things in

1175
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:33,500
mind for your future.
Exactly.

1176
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:36,100
That's, that's my feeling.
That, like, you can sit here and

1177
01:13:36,100 --> 01:13:42,700
you can say, Well, I would play,
I would play if you knew you

1178
01:13:42,700 --> 01:13:45,800
were guaranteed a figure
paycheck.

1179
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:52,300
You would think, not think you
say you wouldn't think twice

1180
01:13:52,300 --> 01:13:55,400
bullshit if you're guaranteed an
eight-figure pay say, well, if I

1181
01:13:55,407 --> 01:13:59,800
get any time, we'll still get
drafted what you just said and

1182
01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:01,600
they figure paycheck or get into
a camp.

1183
01:14:03,700 --> 01:14:07,800
It makes sense.
Now, what could be done to

1184
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:10,600
entice, these kids, we have name
image and likeness.

1185
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:13,900
Now if you're one of those bowl
games and you really want one of

1186
01:14:13,900 --> 01:14:17,500
those kids to play shell out the
money for them.

1187
01:14:18,700 --> 01:14:23,000
You can do it, you can make them
a, they can be in a commercial

1188
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:24,600
for your company.
Here's a million dollars.

1189
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:28,000
Come play for us, then you'd
have the kids thinking about

1190
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:31,800
things.
And to your point to I think the

1191
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:34,000
way the new year six is going to
go in the way it's kind of

1192
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:38,800
shaping is those bowls are going
to be involved before New Year's

1193
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:42,400
day.
They just are They are.

1194
01:14:43,300 --> 01:14:48,100
And then the those bowls will
matter in a in that regards if

1195
01:14:48,100 --> 01:14:50,600
they're being played earlier,
the other bowls are going to

1196
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:52,600
start getting more prime-time
spots.

1197
01:14:54,300 --> 01:14:58,800
You know, more Prestige.
So you still have a chance to go

1198
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:01,900
out there and play anything that
I've said.

1199
01:15:01,900 --> 01:15:05,700
I'm not upset, you know, you
know what, have somebody on the

1200
01:15:05,700 --> 01:15:08,300
team that teaches these kids,
how to understand, and get those

1201
01:15:08,300 --> 01:15:12,100
insurance policies.
Like, we want you to play the

1202
01:15:12,100 --> 01:15:15,000
cat is in the room with you.
By the way, just it just jumped

1203
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:26,400
on the table.
I have someone to educate, like,

1204
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:28,300
you know, I really don't want to
play in this.

1205
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:31,300
I want to play this game but I'm
I don't want anything to happen.

1206
01:15:31,500 --> 01:15:33,300
I'm going to get drafted in the
first round.

1207
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:35,600
All right, cool.
Bring this guy in.

1208
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:37,900
Hey, you can look at taking an
insurance policy and if

1209
01:15:37,900 --> 01:15:42,600
something catastrophic happens
to you, Your policy covers you

1210
01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:45,400
up to whatever?
I think the Jadeveon Clowney

1211
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:49,400
was, like, 5 million dollars,
which life-changing money.

1212
01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:54,700
He's clearly made a lot more.
So, it is what it is with

1213
01:15:54,700 --> 01:15:57,800
life-changing money.
Even if you know that that's

1214
01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:03,100
your ceiling, it's absolutely.
You know, if you're not, if you

1215
01:16:03,108 --> 01:16:06,900
don't have to use it then you
know, that's all the better,

1216
01:16:06,900 --> 01:16:08,700
especially if you're high
caliber player because you're

1217
01:16:08,700 --> 01:16:11,800
probably making that.
First-round picks are making

1218
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:14,800
that in there their first year
in the league more or less

1219
01:16:15,100 --> 01:16:17,100
between incentives and rookie
deals.

1220
01:16:18,100 --> 01:16:20,200
Exactly.
All right Brian.

1221
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:23,700
Let's touch on one other thing.
Real quick, the passing of John

1222
01:16:23,700 --> 01:16:28,600
Madden.
For kids like us.

1223
01:16:28,700 --> 01:16:34,100
I think our generation is man
encompasses everything.

1224
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:40,100
Yeah because and this is why
I'll say this we didn't see him

1225
01:16:40,100 --> 01:16:43,200
Coach but we need he was a coach
and when you who was a really

1226
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:47,100
good coach then he became the
voice of the NFL for us.

1227
01:16:47,300 --> 01:16:52,500
Yeah and then when we were you
know, Les elementary school

1228
01:16:53,100 --> 01:16:56,400
early, middle school Madden
comes out.

1229
01:16:57,900 --> 01:17:05,000
And you know it was everything
he was all part of her life.

1230
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:10,600
It literally changed the game of
football in terms of how we

1231
01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:13,700
think about it.
Everything that we do with

1232
01:17:13,700 --> 01:17:18,700
fantasy football.
Now is in a lot of ways tied to

1233
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:25,200
Madden and some of the the the
redraft formats that they had in

1234
01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:27,500
some of the bad dynasties and
things like that.

1235
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:29,900
That.
So I mean a lot of these things

1236
01:17:29,900 --> 01:17:33,100
are tied into that.
Yeah.

1237
01:17:33,500 --> 01:17:35,900
What's the first one?
You remember, what's the first

1238
01:17:35,900 --> 01:17:38,500
one in your head when you when
you think mad and what was the

1239
01:17:38,500 --> 01:17:40,700
first one?
You remember playing the first

1240
01:17:40,700 --> 01:17:42,500
one?
I played a lot was 94.

1241
01:17:43,100 --> 01:17:46,300
I play 95 a lot.
I think that's your also got my

1242
01:17:46,300 --> 01:17:52,400
Sega to so need sense.
But what's your favorite

1243
01:17:53,700 --> 01:17:54,900
Favorite.
Oh man.

1244
01:17:56,200 --> 01:18:00,300
That's tougher.
Probably I can't remember the

1245
01:18:00,300 --> 01:18:04,400
year but it was the second one
that was on the PS2.

1246
01:18:05,300 --> 01:18:08,900
Because the the first one there
were still a lot of bugs with

1247
01:18:08,900 --> 01:18:11,300
the because it was the one with
the first true.

1248
01:18:12,700 --> 01:18:25,300
It was hang on everything free.
Let's see.

1249
01:18:25,300 --> 01:18:30,700
I think it was Either three or
four.

1250
01:18:31,100 --> 01:18:34,600
I think it was 03, okay?
All right.

1251
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:47,400
Yeah, actually. 2002.
Well, okay.

1252
01:18:48,500 --> 01:18:49,000
Okay.
Okay.

1253
01:18:49,300 --> 01:18:54,000
So one was the first one that
was on on PS2 senior year in

1254
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:55,200
high school.
Then right?

1255
01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:58,600
Yeah, that's the one I'll go
with.

1256
01:18:59,100 --> 01:19:01,900
I mean, there's been others.
It had more features and better

1257
01:19:01,900 --> 01:19:04,500
features but I feel like that
was the first one that kind of

1258
01:19:06,300 --> 01:19:12,200
Made it more of a true football
simulation versus yeah.

1259
01:19:12,500 --> 01:19:16,900
Some of the less graphically
capable games in the in the Sega

1260
01:19:17,300 --> 01:19:21,900
generation.
And PS, one generation and the

1261
01:19:21,900 --> 01:19:24,200
PS1 generation.
I'm 06.

1262
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:28,200
I'm 06, guess I don't use the
vision thing.

1263
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:31,100
I always took off the vision
thing, but every other thing, it

1264
01:19:31,100 --> 01:19:34,500
felt like you were truly
running, the franchise, the

1265
01:19:34,500 --> 01:19:37,700
draft, and stuff had been there.
The practices have been there.

1266
01:19:37,700 --> 01:19:40,500
But when you could do the
practices midweek with plays,

1267
01:19:41,900 --> 01:19:44,700
And like, if you ran those plays
enough, it would like make you

1268
01:19:44,700 --> 01:19:48,900
better during the game.
That was always mine, but the

1269
01:19:48,900 --> 01:19:52,400
guy himself was an incredible
football coach.

1270
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:56,500
And again, if I said our
generation when, we were 10 or

1271
01:19:56,500 --> 01:20:00,800
12, you start hearing John
Madden, the 1970s weren't that

1272
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:02,500
far off.
It was like, I was only 20 years

1273
01:20:02,500 --> 01:20:05,100
ago, you start reading.
Holy God, he won, 100 games, he

1274
01:20:05,100 --> 01:20:08,200
won a Super Bowl.
He coached all these, you know

1275
01:20:08,500 --> 01:20:12,500
Hall of Fame players.
And what ends Bill, he's still

1276
01:20:12,500 --> 01:20:15,300
the the king of win percentage
rate seventh.

1277
01:20:15,300 --> 01:20:21,100
He wants 75 percent of his games
at Sun bean and I don't think

1278
01:20:21,100 --> 01:20:24,900
that'll ever be touched because
going to more games, but then

1279
01:20:24,900 --> 01:20:30,200
watching him, you know, as a
Niners fan in the 90s, He called

1280
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:34,600
so many of our big games lip and
I mean you got to get him later

1281
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:41,100
with with Peyton, but you knew
especially in the mid 90s mid

1282
01:20:41,100 --> 01:20:43,600
nineties.
If it was him and summer, all

1283
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:46,300
calling your Grant.
You a game of the week is a big

1284
01:20:46,300 --> 01:20:51,700
ass game was a big game and I
always like what somebody said

1285
01:20:51,700 --> 01:20:55,000
because some people said he was
bombastic and over the top and

1286
01:20:55,000 --> 01:21:01,100
he was silly with the drawings.
He brought football to where

1287
01:21:01,100 --> 01:21:04,800
someone like myself who didn't
play understand it.

1288
01:21:06,900 --> 01:21:11,900
He was able to easily break down
the nuts and bolts and then give

1289
01:21:11,900 --> 01:21:16,400
it to you like he, he
essentially so he took the

1290
01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:18,500
ingredients and then he gave you
a dish.

1291
01:21:19,700 --> 01:21:22,500
Yeah.
Like I can take the ingredients

1292
01:21:22,500 --> 01:21:26,000
and see the dish, but you might
not see the dish looking at

1293
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:28,400
those ingredients.
But once he breaks it down into

1294
01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:32,500
the meal and gives it to you on
a plate, yeah you can digest it.

1295
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:38,700
So he did that so well and I
think you know, just an

1296
01:21:38,700 --> 01:21:41,600
infectious personality.
You know you can call it

1297
01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:45,100
bombastic if you want to
infectious.

1298
01:21:45,100 --> 01:21:46,500
You better work?
Yes.

1299
01:21:46,500 --> 01:21:50,300
Just you just felt like you felt
like if you said Talk to him

1300
01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:54,300
like he would explain it to you
and I don't know if you heard

1301
01:21:54,300 --> 01:21:56,100
this story.
Did, you know who used to teach

1302
01:21:56,100 --> 01:22:01,300
a like an entry-level class like
an intruder football?

1303
01:22:02,500 --> 01:22:04,000
Laughing.
If you taught him how?

1304
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:07,400
Yeah, he taught an account and
someone said that's why he

1305
01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:10,800
became so good at being able to
what you just said.

1306
01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:13,900
Convey it to just anybody.
Because in that class you to be,

1307
01:22:13,900 --> 01:22:16,700
get into the nuts and the bolts
and getting hard and he would

1308
01:22:16,700 --> 01:22:18,200
see deer.
And they were like, he would see

1309
01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:20,800
the deer in the headlight.
Looked when you pull it back.

1310
01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:26,600
So essentially, every year he
had someone to go to, but, you

1311
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:30,400
know, it's an icon lost.
It was literally days after the

1312
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:32,700
all-madden documentary, which I
have not At watch.

1313
01:22:32,700 --> 01:22:36,300
But I heard it's pretty cool.
I did I watched it on the day.

1314
01:22:36,300 --> 01:22:38,100
Came out.
Yeah.

1315
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:40,100
Christmas Day night.
I was sitting there with my

1316
01:22:40,100 --> 01:22:44,200
father-in-law, very nice.
Yeah, in the living room,

1317
01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:48,600
watching that kind of just
wrapping up a nice Christmas

1318
01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:51,900
Day.
And I mean, I know, I know when

1319
01:22:51,900 --> 01:22:55,400
they were talking about the
making of it, you know, that,

1320
01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:57,800
you know, his family told him,
just the sections that he was,

1321
01:22:57,800 --> 01:22:59,400
he was interviewed.
It was just going to kind of be

1322
01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:03,100
a little small thing and then
obviously they brought And you

1323
01:23:03,100 --> 01:23:05,500
know, these all time guys and
guys that he spent a bunch of

1324
01:23:05,500 --> 01:23:09,800
time with and folks that he was
on the road with, with his crew,

1325
01:23:10,900 --> 01:23:13,900
you know, and it turned into
the, the documentary that it

1326
01:23:13,900 --> 01:23:17,200
was.
And I think that, you know, him

1327
01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:21,800
living this to see that I think
was really, really big for him.

1328
01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:28,800
So it was really great.
So, rest in peace, John Madden.

1329
01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:33,600
Now, Brian, let's go look at The
bowl pick ones.

1330
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:36,400
I'm still trying to figure this
out.

1331
01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:40,700
We ended up with the same number
of total wins predicted, you

1332
01:23:40,700 --> 01:23:43,100
have more losses.
I'd still don't figure that out.

1333
01:23:43,100 --> 01:23:47,000
That's the whole all Saturday.
Pickens Brian wins.

1334
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:50,000
Bold pickles though.
I take on the regular season,

1335
01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:53,700
Brian takes on the bowl season,
if you would have went with

1336
01:23:53,700 --> 01:23:57,500
Brian 2114, you'd have made some
people, some money.

1337
01:23:57,500 --> 01:24:00,800
I ended up 17 and 18.
I still don't know how the way I

1338
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:03,900
started like winning.
Like winning one game out of

1339
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:07,600
first aid, but uh, real good
bowl season.

1340
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:11,500
Lot of really fun games,
especially the games don't

1341
01:24:11,500 --> 01:24:14,500
matter.
But New Year's Day those three

1342
01:24:14,500 --> 01:24:22,300
games on New Year's Day, man.
The the fiesta, the Outback in

1343
01:24:22,300 --> 01:24:25,500
the Citrus were probably three
of the best games of the year.

1344
01:24:25,700 --> 01:24:32,600
Yeah, absolutely.
And and then the rose just

1345
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:37,700
unbelievable.
I mean You know.

1346
01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:44,700
It's why you need, why you need
talented guys, schemes great in

1347
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:49,300
Utah, played their nuts off that
game but you saw that talent in

1348
01:24:49,308 --> 01:24:53,200
the end you know with you know
especially Jackson Smith new

1349
01:24:53,200 --> 01:25:00,200
Java, holy shit.
I mean that kid went 300-plus

1350
01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:04,800
yards, lit It Up, made a name
for himself, definitely a first

1351
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:07,100
round Talent, probably coming
out next year.

1352
01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:15,000
So, you know, great bowl season.
And there's there's one more

1353
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:18,000
Brian just to begin.
Today's from, we got one more,

1354
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:23,400
man, For national championship
game and we'll do our pics on

1355
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:26,200
it.
I will watch it.

1356
01:25:27,300 --> 01:25:30,300
That's just the love.
I know some people were saying

1357
01:25:30,300 --> 01:25:32,600
not going to watch.
It's just an SEC thing.

1358
01:25:33,300 --> 01:25:38,100
Bama Georgia, nnd Georgia, the
favorite land three points.

1359
01:25:38,900 --> 01:25:41,000
Brian, what do you say on this
one?

1360
01:25:42,300 --> 01:25:48,700
I'm taking Georgia.
I think the money line in spread

1361
01:25:49,100 --> 01:25:55,200
money line in spread.
I think it's a, I think it's a

1362
01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:59,200
title that's like a four-point
win for for Georgia late.

1363
01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:06,800
Touchdown retake the lead.
Okay, and Bama can't get it down

1364
01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:09,900
the field and enough time.
So I'm gonna go Georgia.

1365
01:26:09,900 --> 01:26:14,500
I think them seeing what Bama
did in the SEC championship game

1366
01:26:14,500 --> 01:26:16,600
at is the difference.
I think this is kind of an

1367
01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:22,900
inverse of the previous SEC
National Championship where a

1368
01:26:22,900 --> 01:26:30,300
matchup was played earlier and
the victories were swapped.

1369
01:26:30,300 --> 01:26:32,300
I think this is another
situation where the victories

1370
01:26:32,300 --> 01:26:36,400
are going to be swapped.
So I think that Georgia takes it

1371
01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:38,500
here.
All right.

1372
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:43,000
I'm not going to bet against
saving.

1373
01:26:43,500 --> 01:26:45,700
I don't know what they'll win,
but I'll take Kamon.

1374
01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:50,200
Once on my thought is smart has
to eventually get a win here.

1375
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:51,700
He eventually.
Right?

1376
01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:58,200
But I just again, if Georgia had
one, I think it's Georgia had

1377
01:26:58,200 --> 01:27:02,000
won the Michigan game, closer,
and not shown a lot of cards.

1378
01:27:02,700 --> 01:27:06,200
I think I might be leaning
Georgia, but that, that worries

1379
01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:11,100
me, You can't show that much to
Nick Saban unless you've got

1380
01:27:11,100 --> 01:27:18,200
something really schemed up.
Deep Todd Monken for Saban in

1381
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:21,600
that offense because they've
shown they can crack the armor

1382
01:27:21,700 --> 01:27:25,200
of what seemed to be an
impenetrable defense already.

1383
01:27:26,100 --> 01:27:30,300
So I just want a good game.
Yeah.

1384
01:27:30,300 --> 01:27:33,900
And next year we got a crummy
game the year before that we got

1385
01:27:33,900 --> 01:27:37,800
a crummy game.
The year for that, we got a

1386
01:27:37,800 --> 01:27:40,600
crummy game.
We haven't had a really good

1387
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:43,300
national championship game and
almost four years.

1388
01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:50,300
Yeah, so I just want a good
competitive, fun game to watch.

1389
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:56,100
I've been to need earlier,
Brian, both of our proteins,

1390
01:27:56,900 --> 01:28:00,800
when you're in, right.
Dip, when y'all are definitely

1391
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:04,400
in, we win, we're in.
If we lose, we'll need some help

1392
01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:06,500
if we win.
We're in regardless.

1393
01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:12,900
Yeah, we could have closed it
out last week but We played down

1394
01:28:12,900 --> 01:28:16,700
to a lesser competition, like,
we've done and we lost another,

1395
01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:19,800
you know, one score game.
Yeah.

1396
01:28:20,100 --> 01:28:24,200
Well, we beat up the Texans with
the rookie quarterback and now

1397
01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:27,400
the discussion is, do you start
the rookie against the Rams, or

1398
01:28:27,400 --> 01:28:29,600
do we start Jimmy against the
Rams?

1399
01:28:30,900 --> 01:28:36,000
I don't know.
Don't care if the Saints beat or

1400
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:40,900
lose to Atlanta, where, in
regardless, And I'm trying to

1401
01:28:40,900 --> 01:28:43,800
look up when that game is hold
on a second.

1402
01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:48,100
Efforting, efforting here.
Efforting, all we have to do is

1403
01:28:48,100 --> 01:28:51,700
beat the Jags who don't have a
head coach, and have eleven one

1404
01:28:51,700 --> 01:28:53,900
there.
One there in seven years.

1405
01:28:55,700 --> 01:28:57,500
Y'all got to get a monkey off,
y'alls back?

1406
01:28:57,600 --> 01:29:06,700
Yeah, seven years Braun lets see
which well to me because we

1407
01:29:06,700 --> 01:29:09,300
never lost there for so long
over.

1408
01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:12,100
Yeah.
The the Saints game is of

1409
01:29:12,100 --> 01:29:15,900
course, going to take place the
same time as our game that 425.

1410
01:29:17,500 --> 01:29:22,000
So, you know, you got to play
your nuts off regardless.

1411
01:29:22,500 --> 01:29:24,800
We gotta play.
I mean, this is why they've set

1412
01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:30,400
this up like this and the funny
part is you heard what could

1413
01:29:30,500 --> 01:29:36,500
happen right with that old if
y'all lose or if y'all was

1414
01:29:36,500 --> 01:29:39,600
y'all, if y'all lose the
Chargers and or if y'all win,

1415
01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:44,000
The Chargers and Raiders like
should play to a tie or

1416
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:50,600
something funky like that.
I'm we're sure we're if we

1417
01:29:50,600 --> 01:29:58,200
filled the stands here it was
like if So if y'all lose the

1418
01:29:58,200 --> 01:30:00,200
rate y'all be 9 & 8.
Oh yeah.

1419
01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:03,200
They should play do Thai.
So they have one less loss, they

1420
01:30:03,200 --> 01:30:06,800
had their 97 and one which
percentages take them above

1421
01:30:06,800 --> 01:30:11,900
y'all them.
Which would be crappy.

1422
01:30:12,300 --> 01:30:15,000
But then the Steelers can make
it into doing that.

1423
01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:17,500
So it's kind of funny, but it is
what it is.

1424
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:19,600
Let's just write them.
So we don't have to worry about

1425
01:30:19,600 --> 01:30:22,500
any of these scenarios, that's
all I want.

1426
01:30:22,600 --> 01:30:25,200
I just want to see my team play
in January and relevant

1427
01:30:25,200 --> 01:30:27,900
football.
So, you know, is what it is,

1428
01:30:28,400 --> 01:30:30,400
Brian.
Has anything broken, the last

1429
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:33,600
hour and a half since we jumped
on here and some fun man?

1430
01:30:33,700 --> 01:30:36,600
I think we're good.
All right, well, that will wrap

1431
01:30:36,600 --> 01:30:40,200
up this episode of the boundary.
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1432
01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:43,600
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1433
01:30:46,200 --> 01:30:51,200
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01:30:51,200 --> 01:30:53,900
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