Hammer Down

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Welcome back to the boundary for
podcast.

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I'm Curtis Wilson.
Brian Sigler, buddy.

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We live on a Wednesday night,
how you feeling live on a

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Wednesday night back to the
normal bowel weekly episodes

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after some ups and downs over
the last few months, whatever.

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And it flows, we were kind of
working out our schedule over

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the offseason.
We kind of okay.

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Well, do you feel like it?
Yeah, anyone lined up, do we

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have two is enough news to talk
about.

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Let's kind of Things out and you
know after two weeks ago we had

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some stuff for you but this has
been a pretty busy couple weeks

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especially with baseball and
some of the stuff that's coming

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out from the camps that have
already started.

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And some of the stuff that prize
been talking about with some of

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the local media.
We thought, hey let's, let's get

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another one out here.
Let's talk these things through

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a little bit and see, see what
you guys think.

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Absolutely, it was time.
But again the Ebbs and flows of

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the all-season.
Sometimes we sit here.

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Here and we start looking at how
much data we have and it's like

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that's like 30 minutes and I can
talk not sit there and say it's

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30 minutes ago.
I'll be we compared it to with

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our but I don't think you guys
want to hear that.

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Very don't we got some fun stuff
for you tonight.

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We got we got at least a good
hour that is substantive and and

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going to be good stuff for you
guys to pour over for a lot of

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stuff, broken on the last few
weeks.

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And like you said, Brian, let's
lead it off.

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Let's talk about the baseball
program.

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Ram.
You know what a season.

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First of all before we get into
all the details, what a season

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you know from I think you said
it or tweet it out a few weeks

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ago a few days ago.
A team that was fixed to finish

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sixth on their side of the
conference wins.

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The conference outright Gets a
Super Regional host gets a

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regional host.
Is a top four seed, it is such a

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gigantic step with a program in
general.

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Yeah huge step for the program.
This is kind of what they've

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been building towards, right?
Like we we we've seen like baby

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steps baby steps and they
finally took that big step this

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year and it was good to see
them, kind of put the pieces

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together where they could
really, you know, put together a

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run that, you know, I think.
Blacksburg and Hokie nation in

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general would be proud of and
have been wanting to see for a

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while.
And, you know, super get to the

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regional Regional hosting, it
ran through Columbia twice got

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right, state in that opening
game, 14 runs in one inning

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Jesus, that was just impressive.
Like the game was kind of over

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and I kind of looked away
because it's like, they're not

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coming back, we're hitting them
hard, but do come.

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Act like 30 minutes later and
see the 14 spot.

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It's like this is, I told you
probably got a texted you, I

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said this is like a state
championship caliber, baseball

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team playing one.
That isn't good.

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That's what that any remind me
of in.

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I mean they again they ran
through them.

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They never had a face Gonzaga
the team we talked about the

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most, they did not show up to
the Blackbird Regional but now

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they're pitching, didn't help
them and they did not have the

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Run support too.
And also with Colombia, it's

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true.
But let's just talk about this

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and let's just reflect, first of
all, on the regional, to win a

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regional to win, a regional is a
milestone for program because

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this program until 2022, had
been in a been in nine.

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I believe it never got to a
Super Regional to win it.

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And to get you the Super
Regional.

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That's a milestone in itself for
a program that had never done it

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before.
Yeah.

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It is starting.
The regular season putting

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themselves in a position where
they can host the regional where

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they could get a somewhat
favorable draw in the regional

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and be able to just Hammer them
out of the park and move on to

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the next stage.
It was huge for them.

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It's a huge.
Froakie Nation, huge for

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Blacksburg having that many
people show up the campus

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back-to-back weekends.
This late in the season.

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Exactly that.
This late in the season, the

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stadium was packed for just
about for every hokey game.

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To get that first Super Regional
bid where you were essentially

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one of the best 16 teams in the
country.

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We had known that all year, but
some teams didn't make it

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examples Florida.
And, you know, and subsequently

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we had a play, the Oklahoma
Sooners and sort of the big news

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that came out early before, the
series, even started, was the

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hammer, which had sort of been a
toll, at a rally call, A Team

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Builder, a boost fun prop, It is
ruled by the NCAA.

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It can't be on the field.
Let's see.

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At this point in time we're
about 70 games in and now it's a

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problem.
Yeah, that's a problem.

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That's a problem.
Rattling Bell isn't a problem,

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but now other teams throughout
the country in the Cooper's are

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using their props.
But for some reason to hammer

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got literally singled out in
this instance as being a topic

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of concern or whatever the hell
they wanted to punch you

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businesses.
So whatever bullshit lingo that

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the assembly uses to justify
this shit.

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And I mean, we, you know, we can
Hammer the n-c-double-a all we

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want to.
But my problem is not it's not

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just the inconsistency of the
application of the rules.

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It's that also there are
actually legitimate problems

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that the NCAA is not dealing
with.

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But this thing that you know,
here is a point of emphasis here

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because it's intimidating to the
opponent's.

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I mean, are we To pull them the
turnover chain, or I mean, it's

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going to stay still have a
stupid ass backpack, like the

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Georgia sleight heads that they
get the sport estate still of

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the stupid backpack.
Did they get rid of that?

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I've watched the Florida state
Florida.

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State should not be allowed to
put the spear in the middle of

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the field anymore.
It's just too, it's so scary,

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it's intimidating.
Bunch of baloney, bunch of

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garbage.
Especially when the way it was

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used, it was never in.
It was always pointed towards

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the Dugout and it was just the
Hokies.

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It wasn't like they were going
out there in the middle of the

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right behind The Catcher And
deciding to do it.

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They were literally so bunch of
garbage but they are doing at

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the plate like if they were
brought into the plate or near

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the batter's box, is one thing.
They're they're like pastel on

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Deck circle like they're closer
to the Dugout than they are

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really pleased.
It's just a bunch of garbage but

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let's let's hit.
Let's start game 1.

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Which was 3:00 the early game
but hey, in ESPN2 game

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nonetheless.
You get national attention right

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there and you know, the loss is
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Yeah.
Watching that game and the a

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good frame jobs.
One thing.

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A ridiculous asinine frame job
should never be called a strike.

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I don't even care if it's
borderline but when legitimately

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a catcher is attempting to pull
it three to four inches back in

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and it's an obvious pole and
you're getting a strike call, I

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was so pissed at that because
it's like that that balls three

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inches below the knees.
Like that's not you can't swing

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it that it's outside.
Well there was one called a

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three-strike that was about four
inches below the zone and 2

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inches off the plate.
It was on the white line.

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What do you talk about 2 inches?
It was only white line, which I

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think it was out of the dirt.
And yeah, you said it pretty

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much on the white line and then
framed as the corn, I was like,

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what?
No But neither here, nor there

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about that, it took quite a few
innings for the bats to get

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cranked up.
You know, they did get cranked

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up late to cut into that lead,
but it was just too little too

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late at that point.
They had there s going in there

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Aces and eights.
You could see, I'll say this,

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they're number one is probably
going to be a guy in a couple

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years because I think he's a
sophomore, don't quote me on

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that, but you see he had good
stuff.

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He has potential stuff to keep
that consistency.

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Was his problem, I think when he
was on, he was on when he had

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control, he was on.
But you know about he'd have

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outings where he gets plunked a
little bit.

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This is one where he was locked
in dialed in early and I think

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because of the the opposite on
our end, we are not doubt in

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early on the mound and we
weren't hitting.

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And you know, when we look back
at this series at the Super

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Regionals, you can point at the
missed opportunities and game

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one as to why we're not heading
home.

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It's true, but like you said, we
had to get rid of, we have to

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pull our Friday starter in the
second.

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The bullpen did, a great job to
keep it closed.

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And for us, with hit the guy,
they're number one, who was, who

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was pitching good, but then also
getting the calls we didn't see

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any of their Bullpen.
We saw him that we saw the

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closer and the closures, one of
the best in the country, guys,

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95 to 96.
And if you take a look at some

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of the secondary pitches one,
Goes down to about 86 and he has

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a 79 mile an hour or something.
I want to say it's maybe a curve

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but that's who we saw.
We saw their best to pictures

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and when you can't shell and
then with the Zone the way it

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was, it hurts.
But like you said Brian, It's

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54.
That's the one that stings you

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now down 10 facing elimination
game to happens.

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Early afternoon, crowds packed,
crowds, Jack and second Pitch of

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the game, bit of season.
Gone.

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Goodbye.
We talked about the the Hammers

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that I like that.
They broke out the air.

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Hammers for the.
Yes they should have got an

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inflatable him.
Yeah, just really drive it home.

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Absolutely.
And you know third inning to run

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shots from Cross and Hunter and
the games five you know

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basically 0.5 nothing in it
looks like it's going to be a

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cruise but you know Oklahoma to
their credit kept.

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Fighting and fighting and
fighting because we get up into

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the fifth inning, you know,
bottom for, they cut the lead to

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one and then show will comes out
answers, gets us back, roll and

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again, but reality kind of set
in we talked about having to use

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the bullpen in game 1.
It happened again in game two

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and it was Hackenberg who I
think he's got the stuff, but

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you can tell being a younger
guy.

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His arms, not quite there.
But to me his stride, his

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fastball looked fine.
He just could not throw a

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breaking ball to for strike to
save his life.

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So, it had to go to the bullpen
again.

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So, now you got Hurley and
Higgins coming in, and now you

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got, you know, three of your key
members of your Bullpen and

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thrown significant enemies down.
Yeah, thrown significant Innings

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because game one to their
credit, they kept you in it but

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gained two because Oklahoma has
battled back, they had to pitch

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great and her knee pitched on
belief Kearney had the probably

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his best outing of his career.
And to me, I think you can say,

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give him player of the game
because if he doesn't keep

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pitching the way he pitches that
game could have been tied late

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versus a runaway, you know, 14-8
Victory.

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But it all set up game three in,
you know, watching that here

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first inning, you know, two home
runs in the first inning that is

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not the way you want to start.
Again three in a Super Regional.

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Yeah, you hate me by the 8-ball
you hate that, you're giving

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them confidence with the home
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It's not just you know that you
had an error and you had you

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know a bloop single driver ban
in its to diggers it definitely

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you know from a mental
standpoint kind of already puts

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you in a position where you feel
like you're you're having to

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tell you to push a little bit,
right?

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Yes.
And sometimes that that Is going

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to hurt you at the play and we
saw it hurt them at the plate,

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especially in the first couple
Innings against cave Warden.

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The redshirt freshman for
Oklahoma.

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No base runners, no hits, he
didn't walk anybody.

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And when you're going in there
and it's two nothing, and you're

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not getting base runners on
that, definitely, you can see

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anyone's ever play baseball.
You can see Gear, start turning

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heads in the in the overthinking
starts, but they settled down.

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The third malinowski.
Finally got a hit gotta the the

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butt of some jokes when he
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And then demartini brings him
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third to Tyler ballgame.
You feel like, okay we're

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getting the momentum back, but
we give the lead right back in

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the fourth inning.
And, and you brought this up, I

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think you've texted me while you
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those first, he's like the
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He's like the that we need her
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Higgins with them out.
You know, we're just, we don't

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have the gas and you can see it,
you know, they start, they kept

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hitting the ball and what can
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What would their that?
There's not much you can do

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after that because you had a
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and you know maybe they should
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the most talented team didn't
win this.

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Yeah.
I mean we had a problem we ended

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up getting Oklahoma while they
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We called them on a hot streak
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team that was on a High Street
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were hammering it they hung
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And your stomach and from a
pitching standpoint we

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definitely did not have our best
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No.
Not at all.

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So not at all in the the hanging
around and Hanging around is

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having to use her knee for
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Because if they don't hang
around hang around and you can

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use him to, maybe you can bring
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be limited.
But you know after they got down

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so much, it was you have to
start swinging even if it's bad

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pitches because Sunday to me the
Zone, wine back up again for

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Oklahoma.
Because there were a couple

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pictures I saw.
Gavin cross was going to be a

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top ten pick or swinging that
you normally don't see him swing

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it, but when they were getting
called Low and outside, he's

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swinging at the ball because you
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I've got to try to put a bad
Omen so, you know, unfortunate,

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you know, the Super Regional
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steps.
And you said something, what did

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you say to me?
They Brian about.

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You sent me has come out again,
getting eyes on the program

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today and that's what this is
getting more eyes on the

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program.
You're seeing Blacksburg on TV

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and meaningful games late in the
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So this is going to this is
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effect.
This is going to matter too long

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term.
This shows that hey we can we

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get hit with the big boys.
If you come here, you can play

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with big games.
You play in big games, you can

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have a chance to go to the
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You will have eyes on you to
where you can potentially be a

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top ten pick and someone else, I
cannot remember the name.

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Some of those chatting about it
today.

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He's, he got, he's gonna get a
second round grade.

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If you can remember, and you
message us, I'll mention you on

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here.
I just can't remember it because

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I'm getting old but it's also a
way of I think it'll show with

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it.
I think shovel was no getting

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it.
I think, is that, okay?

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But you talked about getting the
eyes but it's also money when

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you make regionals and you make
super regionals.

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It's extra money for those
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Bone softball.
Have the potential to be Revenue

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Sports.
Though, if you are selling

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tickets, obviously there are you
got Network game?

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Which the ACC Network just is
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Shitshow could fix you somebody
somebody getting that shit.

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I mean it's it's tennis, it's so
laughable.

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I mean, it's bad.
You I mean I'm not just hold up

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for Virginia.
Tech is putting literally every

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team in the ACC behind the eight
ball against SEC.

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See and Big Ten?
Yeah, impact 12, yes.

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So somebody's got to fix that.
But again, it's a great season

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for baseball, it's a great
season for softballs a great

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spring season in general.
It was a great season overall,

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you know, probably wants
everything over the next 10

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days.
Figure out, with in Omaha,

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probably going to be the best
finish in the Capital.

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One Clash, which is basically
every sport It's every sport

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counts, you know, probably gonna
be our highest finished ever,

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which is really awesome and it
shows you kind of wit Babcock's

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vision of building it because
you're getting to a point now

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where like the wrestling team is
probably going to be self funded

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in a couple of years.
If the baseball team is softball

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team, keep it up.
They're probably gonna be close

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to self funding themselves in
Brian.

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If these non-revenue Sports
become self-funded, where does

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the extra money get to stay?
The Foosball de fútbol, unless

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it's nothing in.
Let's talk some football here.

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Brian, because over the weekend,
had a pretty big commitment.

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Highest-rated guy on the class
so far, late ganam organum.

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However, you pronounce it.
Somebody knows the exact

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pronunciation where you can find
it, please let me know but the

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65 280-pound offensive, lineman
out of Charleston.

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West Virginia, who is the number
one player in West Virginia.

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And I'm borderline.
Four-star, had 24/7 with offers

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from NC State obviously, West
Virginia, North Carolina,

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Indiana Wake Forest, South
Carolina.

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Nice offer list.
What's the tape showing on this

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guy?
Cuz he seems like he's already

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got the size and it's not going
to take much to put on to be

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ready for a D1 play.
Yeah, good, good offer list.

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Good size.
What I like about him is he's

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got a It is he's a guy that
finishes plays, he's definitely

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an interior offensive lineman
he's got somebody that can be

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kind of a swing guard tackle.
Just he had some tape where I

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got to see some one-on-ones and
definitely not the said he needs

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for to be that swing type
player.

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But definitely going to be a
solid guard.

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I think as he moves along in his
career, got to get about 15 20

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pounds on him but I think he's
going to Do solid at the

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position.
I like what I see from him both

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in past Pro and run blocking.
Like I said, good voter, but

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he's got uses his hands.
Well, impasse Pro, good, punch,

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and good recovery.
If if there's a good first move

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by the defender there.
So you know we'll see what comes

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of him as he works his way
through next season.

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Once we get past Signing Day, I
like the pick up.

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Like I think you said your
friends friends for star player.

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He was a four-star for a few
days composite for star for a

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few days and then it all of a
sudden he drops back to with

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three investigated.
The so idea.

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So I don't know what change but
I do know that you know Rivals

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has him as a mid three-on-three
has him as a four-star and 24/7

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has a high three ESPN has the
ranking on him, but that's not

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shocking because ESPN is, I
don't know what the fuck they're

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doing with the.
They need to take them out of

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the composite.
How are you?

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The number one, pretty much
consensus player in a state and

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you don't have a real have
arranged an ESPN, just needs to

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take them out of the composite
first, if they start getting

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their act together, do their
own.

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I mean, we should get on three
of their know, so you still get

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three data points.
So, you still have a solid

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Trifecta of data points with
exactly.

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I mean also with with This, when
it's Joe Rudolph, first people

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in show your dolls.
First, big Way Joe Rudolph of

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win against With a player that
is being heavily pursued.

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I mean, you can say you know,
Hans Hammer was in that somewhat

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in that category, but lace
definitely in terms of major

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regional players all on board.
Yes, they were you the guy, you

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had West Virginia.
He had UNC at NC State.

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I can't remember if he had a
Penn State offer or not, but I

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did not.
Okay, you're not have that.

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Had the South Carolina offer
though?

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Yes, South Carolina.
But he had his visits lined up

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so it's a big win for Zhou.
Chong Quinn was the was the

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secondary recruiter on that as
well.

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But that's I think that's
something that we all mentioned

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about Joe recruiting.
Like, and it's also a guy who's

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taken in developed guys into
good offensive linemen.

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So, it's almost like if he's got
the nose and he feels good about

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him.
You trust the work, right?

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Oh yeah, work yeah, yeah, yeah,
be.

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This is a guy.
Who's if he likes the player,

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his hit rate is so high that
you're going to.

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You're going to roll with it.
Yeah.

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As long as it's pretty much not
like bottom of the barrel, she's

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although, although he turned a
two-star into an All-American,

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he did turn it to starting to
all the marriage or so, there

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are success stories like that,
obviously the lower, you get the

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hit rate gets smaller but
community.

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Joe Rudolph is a guy that can
recruit and because he can also

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teach, yeah, it helps his
recruiting Because he can sell

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you.
Come here, I'm going to get you

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good.
Whether you're a 3, star 4 star,

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wherever you are on that chart,
you got a chance to make it to

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the next level.
If you come play for me on a

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percent and with the commitment
their hokey stay 25th in the

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class.
So still again, I think well

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above our expectations so forth.
This year and it's really good

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because we're sitting better
than we thought.

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I think with someone guys that
are looking to announce their

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commitment over the rest of the
summer.

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I think we're sitting fairly
well with a lot of those

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players.
Yeah so as we continue to move

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forward I think that it's
nothing but good things here.

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I don't know where we're going
to end up Landing.

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I think just based on the volume
we're taking and kind of the the

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trajectory were on.
Now we're at least going to be

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that top 40 top 35 yeah whether
we can see Sneak into the top 30

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is going to be the question.
I think it's going to depend on

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probably one or two of those
those names that are coming

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coming due pretty soon because
we got about seven players, I

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think that are looking to commit
in the next two to three months

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before they're their season
starts.

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They're looking to announce
their commitment.

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You look pretty good with one
for sure, whether we end up

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getting if we can get four or
five of those seven to commit to

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Virginia Tech, then we're
looking pretty good as we roll

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into the season and I feel
better about saying hey yeah,

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definitely top 35, maybe top 30.
If we're lower on that hit rate,

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I'd say, you know, keep it
measured top 40 maybe top 35,

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hundred percent.
All right, let's put next.

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Let's talk about if you MC
didn't read about it.

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I hope you football staff
Retreat down the Bristol will.

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First of all, I've never heard
of beamer or the Fuente era

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doing this.
Ever.

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Yeah, if we are incorrect
somebody, let us know in the

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comments.
I don't hit us up on Twitter.

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You know she does something let
us know if we're wrong here.

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I don't remember this.
At least not being.

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You know, well, publicized so
release doing better with

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communication if we're not doing
better with process, let us know

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what's happening and it seemed
like the legitimate almost

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typical, you know, corporate
type Retreat because you know,

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it was a Get away, it wasn't
like a week-long thing.

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They had a bunch of different
activities, the staff got to

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choose what they want to do.
Whether it was like, you know,

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golf hiking fishing activities,
a plethora of other things so it

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was almost like you're going to
get away, but we're also going

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to do some, you know, some
things.

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And one of the big things was
having Jim Phillips, ACC

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commissioner come in and speak
to the guys kind of about the

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the changing landscape of
college football.

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I think that was that's pretty
big in general right there.

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Hopefully said a little bit
about the ACC Network deal.

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Let's hope it gets better.
Sorry, this twice we've already

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mentioned that in.
Yeah, we're always we're going

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to wait until wait until the
season starts, because that

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first night game is going to be
on the SEC network.

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Wow.
That they were showing Paul

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football, reruns.
Y equals a softball tournaments

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are going on in so sorry,
softball regionals.

448
00:27:02,500 --> 00:27:05,000
Baseball Conference tournaments
are going.

449
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,200
Yeah exactly.
What the Are you doing?

450
00:27:09,900 --> 00:27:13,600
We're in our cone this all night
and I can complain to because

451
00:27:13,700 --> 00:27:17,200
you know, I felt like you know,
this is one thing.

452
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:22,300
But A lot of times when there
was games on at the same time,

453
00:27:22,300 --> 00:27:27,000
they were going to like UNC
instead of Virginia Tech with in

454
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,900
terms of network priority.
Yeah, I didn't like that shit

455
00:27:29,900 --> 00:27:33,800
because you should put the team
from the conference that is

456
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,600
hosting.
Yes, in the Indie better

457
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,400
position.
It's true.

458
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,600
My opinion I'm bias.
I'll admit it.

459
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,000
But, you know I think I've got
some logic behind my

460
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,200
justification there so Yes, you
do.

461
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,900
Yes, you do.
But, you know, additional to

462
00:27:51,900 --> 00:27:55,100
having Phillips there and
obviously some staff fun stuff.

463
00:27:55,100 --> 00:28:00,100
Also had a motivational speaker.
Brian, were you shocked when you

464
00:28:00,100 --> 00:28:02,800
read, one of the first things
that this motivational feature

465
00:28:03,100 --> 00:28:07,900
discussed was relationships
because Jesus, Brent,

466
00:28:07,900 --> 00:28:11,600
relationship, cry, putting his
nickname.

467
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,300
Yeah, I mean, it's all about
relationships and I mean, we're

468
00:28:15,300 --> 00:28:17,300
seeing some of the proof in the
pudding so far.

469
00:28:17,300 --> 00:28:22,500
So and let's be honest,
regardless of anything else.

470
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,400
That happens and anything else
that Brent Pride does?

471
00:28:28,500 --> 00:28:30,500
You can lose looked at the
previous regime.

472
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,300
We saw how fracture those
relationships were, yes.

473
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:40,200
So when loser draw, he's going
to end up leaving this program

474
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,000
better than he found it because
we're at least going to be

475
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:48,200
sitting in a position where We
know that the coaches in the

476
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,700
high schools in Virginia, trust,
what's happening in Blacksburg?

477
00:28:52,500 --> 00:28:56,300
Now a relationship sample and I
think that that's a better

478
00:28:56,300 --> 00:29:00,000
building block for you know,
whether prai has long-term

479
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:04,300
success at Virginia Tech or
whether the 10 years is in the

480
00:29:04,300 --> 00:29:06,900
same ballpark as Fuente and
we're looking in doing this

481
00:29:06,900 --> 00:29:08,900
thing again in five or six
years.

482
00:29:09,500 --> 00:29:11,400
Again, regardless of how that
is.

483
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,800
I like where we're sitting and
where we're heading in the

484
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,000
direction that the program is
taking right now.

485
00:29:18,900 --> 00:29:23,000
Then I have in a while so but
didn't that you mention it right

486
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,100
there.
The other thing they had the

487
00:29:24,108 --> 00:29:27,300
speaker talked about was trust,
which is Big because like you

488
00:29:27,308 --> 00:29:30,100
said, they're laying trust in
the programs around the

489
00:29:30,100 --> 00:29:33,400
Commonwealth and around the
region about what we are.

490
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,300
As a you know, as a football
program.

491
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:41,600
The last piece was interesting
though and I hear this and it

492
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,000
makes me think corporate but it
talked about one of our best

493
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:49,100
practices and teaching.
You know, to have a motivational

494
00:29:49,100 --> 00:29:52,900
speaker come in and talk about
that because that is something

495
00:29:52,900 --> 00:29:56,000
as football coaches, that
sometimes don't get through.

496
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,900
Some guys are great on a
whiteboard, can draw up amazing

497
00:29:59,900 --> 00:30:04,000
place but man, actually, show
kid what to do?

498
00:30:04,500 --> 00:30:07,400
They're not good.
So I said interesting.

499
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:12,400
Yeah, I think the two things I'm
thinking of like, Was what

500
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,600
they're talking about.
Was it based on leg?

501
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,700
Differentiation of instruction
and growth mindset.

502
00:30:18,700 --> 00:30:21,700
Was that was that kind of the
type of like filtering that

503
00:30:21,700 --> 00:30:26,000
through football.
Like I mean those are definitely

504
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,800
heavy Bud, were the buzzwords in
the education and teaching

505
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,300
Fields is from you.
So, if that's something that

506
00:30:33,300 --> 00:30:37,100
they were talking about how you
gotta, you know, what's the best

507
00:30:37,100 --> 00:30:41,000
way to get to people that learn
differently or people?

508
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:45,100
They need different levels of
motivation to get out of them.

509
00:30:45,100 --> 00:30:47,300
What?
Their ability is right?

510
00:30:48,700 --> 00:30:52,700
And then focusing on, you know,
the building blocks with with

511
00:30:52,700 --> 00:30:55,900
the the growth mindset, you
don't have to reach your goal

512
00:30:55,900 --> 00:30:59,500
right now, but need to win
today.

513
00:30:59,500 --> 00:31:03,900
Get get better today.
Focus focus on that and go once

514
00:31:03,900 --> 00:31:06,300
the one day at a time, one step
at a time until you reach your

515
00:31:06,300 --> 00:31:10,800
goal and keep that goal in mind.
But you got to attack it every

516
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,900
day that like you're going to
achieve it or you're not going

517
00:31:12,900 --> 00:31:15,900
to get there on a scent.
One other thing he kind of

518
00:31:15,900 --> 00:31:18,300
mentioned I want to get this
kind of pulled up.

519
00:31:18,500 --> 00:31:22,400
And back from your playing days
down at Sydney he talked about

520
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,000
he did this also because he
wanted everybody on the same

521
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,200
page same page same narrative,
same language same messaging

522
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,700
when dealing with the team and
I'm also going to thank probably

523
00:31:32,700 --> 00:31:35,400
dealing with all these camps and
all these recruits coming

524
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,200
through.
Why is it so important,

525
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:39,600
literally?
Because he took the whole staff,

526
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,200
this wasn't just like he took
the 10 coaches on field and some

527
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,700
gaas.
Legitimately, if you saw the

528
00:31:45,700 --> 00:31:49,900
group photo, it was like if you
are in the Building and doing

529
00:31:49,900 --> 00:31:53,400
something with the football
program, you went to this, if

530
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,100
we're going, if your own payroll
at Berryman, you're there.

531
00:31:57,300 --> 00:32:01,900
If you actually get a check for
the from the football program,

532
00:32:01,900 --> 00:32:03,900
you were there and it's
important.

533
00:32:03,900 --> 00:32:09,300
Absolutely, it's important.
And I mean, we talk about all

534
00:32:09,300 --> 00:32:11,200
the time you having consistent
messaging.

535
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,100
That's what they're talking
about is having consistent

536
00:32:13,100 --> 00:32:18,000
messaging from every coach,
every member of the staff, when

537
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:22,100
you go Someone, you know that if
you ask them a question, go to

538
00:32:22,100 --> 00:32:23,600
the next person, ask them a
question.

539
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:29,000
You're getting the same response
and that breeze professionalism

540
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,800
across your department that
breeds professionalism across

541
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:37,800
your program and that means that
everyone is also accountable and

542
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,500
dependable on these areas,
right?

543
00:32:40,700 --> 00:32:43,600
That's the expectation.
He so he setting an expectation

544
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,500
that if you're a part of this
program, you've got to talk and

545
00:32:47,500 --> 00:32:50,600
understand.
Be able to speak on a lot of the

546
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:54,900
things that these coaches do and
if you can't, you need to know

547
00:32:54,900 --> 00:32:58,400
exactly who to send them to and
what to ask them.

548
00:33:00,900 --> 00:33:03,700
And I think that's important in
terms of in recruiting that's

549
00:33:03,700 --> 00:33:06,600
important in coaching that's
important in, you know,

550
00:33:06,700 --> 00:33:09,400
nutrition that's important.
In making sure that you're doing

551
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,700
the right things with treatment
to keep your body, right?

552
00:33:13,300 --> 00:33:16,900
It's top down, man.
It's awesome.

553
00:33:17,100 --> 00:33:20,700
It's awesome to see things like
this, it being publicized and

554
00:33:20,708 --> 00:33:24,500
then to not just publicize in a
picture because you can always

555
00:33:24,500 --> 00:33:27,400
publicize a picture, not see
much behind, but then actually

556
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:32,000
sing what we did while we did
it, who showed up, what we

557
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,600
talked about.
Again, the doors are open and

558
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,400
back to the program is such a
big thing and then in speaking

559
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,900
of opening, like talking about
things, you know, DJ Sims, who

560
00:33:41,900 --> 00:33:44,500
went into the portal was
announced, he's no longer on the

561
00:33:44,500 --> 00:33:48,300
team, he Still own scholarship
at the school for the upcoming

562
00:33:48,300 --> 00:33:54,000
school year, but it's, um, it's
I don't know the rule, exactly.

563
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,400
But basically, he can be a
student Beyond scholarship.

564
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,500
Not counted against the
scholarship.

565
00:34:00,700 --> 00:34:04,300
Apparently, Lincoln Riley, did
it with like ten players if a

566
00:34:04,300 --> 00:34:07,700
player medically retired or
decides to no longer play

567
00:34:07,700 --> 00:34:11,000
football, they can remain on
scholarship at that school and

568
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,000
not count against.
Yeah, that the scholarship

569
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,300
number for the program.
Now and basically, you know,

570
00:34:17,300 --> 00:34:20,300
probably just said he came to me
and just kind of said, you just

571
00:34:20,300 --> 00:34:23,600
didn't want to play football
badly anymore, and I know that

572
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,800
can happen.
We've seen it happen with tons

573
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:30,400
of guys, even more highly touted
guys than DJ Sims, that they get

574
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:34,400
there and it's the amount of
work right to put in to be a

575
00:34:34,408 --> 00:34:36,400
division 1 athlete.
It's an absolute.

576
00:34:36,699 --> 00:34:39,800
I mean, just think as a division
three player it was an absolute

577
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,600
grind.
I can only imagine at the

578
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,800
division, one level, what type
of grind.

579
00:34:46,100 --> 00:34:49,000
Use, especially for guys that
are playing multiple years,

580
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,900
especially for guys that you
have other things on their plate

581
00:34:52,900 --> 00:34:55,100
as well.
Yeah, so yeah.

582
00:34:55,500 --> 00:35:00,300
So that's the way the direction
went with DJ and then finally,

583
00:35:00,300 --> 00:35:04,800
you know, Richard Purnell, he
commits to Liberty just the

584
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:10,200
other day.
I'm glad he did land somewhere

585
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,300
rather quickly just, you know,
him?

586
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:13,900
Yeah.
Good for him.

587
00:35:13,900 --> 00:35:17,400
I mean that's that.
If you if you want to stay in

588
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:22,700
stay and you doesn't work out at
a power 5 program.

589
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:27,400
I mean, right now, Liberty or
ODU, or probably the places you

590
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,000
want to be in terms of whether
you want to stay there for four

591
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,400
years or whether you want to
give it a one or two-year shot

592
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:37,900
and then, you know, transfer,
get the transfer portal to get

593
00:35:37,900 --> 00:35:40,300
back on the power 5 level.
Yeah.

594
00:35:40,300 --> 00:35:43,500
Because those, those schools are
still in showcase games every

595
00:35:43,500 --> 00:35:45,100
year.
Yeah, they are you get you your

596
00:35:45,100 --> 00:35:47,500
TV time?
Get eyes on you, we still don't

597
00:35:47,500 --> 00:35:51,000
know.
The reason why I know we'd love

598
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:55,700
to know, but we don't know why
right now, but it look like

599
00:35:55,700 --> 00:35:59,000
Pride talk with Lauren Johnson
out of Highland Springs, and a

600
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,600
path was given to keep his spot.
But it didn't happen and they

601
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,300
release some of his Loi.
That's something.

602
00:36:04,300 --> 00:36:06,100
They did not have to do.
Yeah.

603
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,000
It could have literally set on
that thing until the end of

604
00:36:10,100 --> 00:36:13,400
Until August when he has to
enroll but they didn't they did

605
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:17,900
the right thing early.
So what's once whatever?

606
00:36:19,100 --> 00:36:22,800
Thing was not that she or like,
all right, well, you go do what

607
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,200
you need to do, you find?
You're free to do that and not

608
00:36:26,500 --> 00:36:29,500
and I, you know, you can you can
criticize prior, you can

609
00:36:29,500 --> 00:36:34,600
criticize the situation, but I
think overall, you know, you

610
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,400
always want to get a guy from
Alice Springs on your team, but

611
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,700
if there are certain things that
whether it's the university not

612
00:36:40,700 --> 00:36:45,800
allowing or whether it's just a
level that you need your players

613
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:51,900
to perform at all the field.
Or, or whatever it is, you know,

614
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:57,800
you can't make exceptions or at
some point, you know, the rule

615
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:03,100
doesn't matter or absolutely.
If there were things that go on

616
00:37:03,100 --> 00:37:07,300
and things weren't met, you have
to stand on your laurels on that

617
00:37:07,700 --> 00:37:10,100
because you start breaking them
left and right for certain

618
00:37:10,100 --> 00:37:13,800
players and certain things.
Then what are your what are you

619
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,700
resting on anyway so you don't
lose your what locker room with

620
00:37:17,700 --> 00:37:18,600
planks.
That's the thing.

621
00:37:19,100 --> 00:37:23,200
So why did I get it in, man?
Like I said, it is what it is?

622
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,900
Yeah.
I wish we shall Prevail nothing

623
00:37:25,900 --> 00:37:29,100
but the best in anyone
pretending that this isn't a

624
00:37:29,100 --> 00:37:34,300
blow for the Hokies is probably
getting themselves in his blood

625
00:37:34,300 --> 00:37:37,400
because he was underrated, he
was an unwilling, we got rated,

626
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:41,000
he was underrated and I think,
you know, we talked about him

627
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,100
being a tweener in that hurting
his overall ranking, you know,

628
00:37:44,100 --> 00:37:46,300
if he did, if he did end up in a
three technique, I think he

629
00:37:46,300 --> 00:37:48,700
would have been all right with
us.

630
00:37:48,900 --> 00:37:54,200
Played at that level, and that's
an easy position this year and

631
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,200
next.
So you know, thankfully, we've

632
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,000
got some other guys coming in.
Hopefully the young guys will

633
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:05,500
show out and we're able to shore
up that position group, but it's

634
00:38:05,500 --> 00:38:06,800
definitely going to hurt for
sure.

635
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,100
Absolutely.
Alright.

636
00:38:09,100 --> 00:38:13,400
So we got to talk about this
because I thought he was in the

637
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:18,700
Hall of Fame, but he's not.
So Corey Moore, the man who

638
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,700
coined the Terrordome back in
1999.

639
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,000
He's not in the College Football
Hall of Fame.

640
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:31,900
He is eligible again this year
And I'm sitting here wondering

641
00:38:32,100 --> 00:38:36,900
how, how ready drumroll here
your credentials?

642
00:38:36,900 --> 00:38:42,200
He played two years of division.
One football in those two years.

643
00:38:43,300 --> 00:38:47,400
31 sacks, including 17 and one
season which broke the Big East

644
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:52,200
record.
He was a second and 13,

645
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:57,600
All-American in 1998.
In 1999, he one-upped it, he

646
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:01,000
went and he was eight unanimous
All-American.

647
00:39:02,500 --> 00:39:05,500
Also, in both those years, he
was the Big East defensive

648
00:39:05,500 --> 00:39:09,500
player of the year.
One of those years it was

649
00:39:09,500 --> 00:39:12,700
unanimous it was the first time
it ever happened in the 10-year

650
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,700
the 10 years of that conference
at that point in time and you go

651
00:39:16,700 --> 00:39:19,300
back and think about it, that
was a conference where Warren

652
00:39:19,300 --> 00:39:22,400
Sapp and some of the best
defensive players down at Miami

653
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,900
played, not counting, some of
the guys, at Tech.

654
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,200
In 99.
And if you're at Virginia Tech

655
00:39:29,700 --> 00:39:33,100
Guy, you already know this.
But just to make the case, he

656
00:39:33,100 --> 00:39:35,700
won the Nagurski, he won the
labardi.

657
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,700
He was football.
Team uses defensive player of

658
00:39:37,700 --> 00:39:41,500
the year.
How on God's green earth is

659
00:39:41,500 --> 00:39:45,200
literally a stretch of football
and two years, where somebody

660
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,600
does that not Hall of Fame
Worthy?

661
00:39:50,900 --> 00:39:58,000
it's not, I mean, there's no way
how he's not Already in the

662
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:04,700
whole thing is a seaman.
Just 9899 Malone's.

663
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:08,300
I mean it's it he played him
season because he was a junko.

664
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:13,100
Yeah.
You sit here and you and then

665
00:40:13,100 --> 00:40:17,800
well a the sound bites and the
way he played.

666
00:40:19,500 --> 00:40:21,800
He literally was a Madman on the
field.

667
00:40:23,100 --> 00:40:26,800
It wasn't like he was sitting
here, you know, taking perfect

668
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:28,000
angles.
He was literally trying to rip

669
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:32,100
people's heads off.
And you know if you ever want to

670
00:40:32,107 --> 00:40:35,100
see something funny, a lot of
you hokey fans do this, that the

671
00:40:35,100 --> 00:40:39,400
presser at the Sugar Bowl in the
national championship is still

672
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,100
one of the funniest pressers of
all time.

673
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,300
Of all time.
So whoever you are out there,

674
00:40:46,300 --> 00:40:50,800
writers Get right.
Put the man in the Hall of Fame.

675
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:55,500
He deserves to be there because
he is literally one of the best.

676
00:40:56,500 --> 00:41:02,800
Defensive ends all time in
college football no doubt, no

677
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,900
doubt.
All right, we're going to

678
00:41:04,900 --> 00:41:08,300
mention this real quick for
those who haven't seen it.

679
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:15,600
July 18th, Hardy would part
Craft brewery at West Creek out

680
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,900
here in the West End of
Richmond, the tailgate tour

681
00:41:18,900 --> 00:41:21,400
continues.
Coach Brent pry from five to

682
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,700
seven will be there.
I'm going to assume it's going

683
00:41:23,700 --> 00:41:26,100
to be some other players or some
other probably someplace.

684
00:41:26,300 --> 00:41:31,500
Is it that point probably some
coaches will be their tickets

685
00:41:31,500 --> 00:41:35,600
already purchased on in?
I think me and Brian were

686
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,900
wondering a couple months ago.
We saw our friends in Northern

687
00:41:37,900 --> 00:41:39,700
Virginia and some people down at
the beach.

688
00:41:39,700 --> 00:41:41,500
Getting it's like what the hell
is he coming to Richmond?

689
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,300
Jesus Christ.
This is where they brew the

690
00:41:43,300 --> 00:41:47,800
Hokie beer.
Yeah, we figured it was going to

691
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:51,100
come back around and it did and
it said Hardy would, which makes

692
00:41:51,100 --> 00:41:54,400
sense?
And I'm excited for a man

693
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,500
looking forward to it.
Looking Forward to hearing

694
00:41:58,500 --> 00:42:01,300
things that, you know, a little
little bit further than what

695
00:42:01,300 --> 00:42:04,400
we're getting some of the media
clips, and meet and greets, and

696
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,500
all that stuff, and just being
around other fellow keys and

697
00:42:08,100 --> 00:42:10,500
having something to cheer about
I think is going to be nice.

698
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,200
Yup.
So it's 20 bucks for attendance.

699
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,800
You do get two free drinks and
they're going to have light

700
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,500
food, which if you've ever done
any sort of the Hokie club

701
00:42:20,500 --> 00:42:23,500
stuff, any locations, it's
usually like that.

702
00:42:24,100 --> 00:42:27,200
And usually, the be very high
This one of the cool things

703
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:31,600
about going to these events is
usually have access to the

704
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,500
coaches.
Take a look at my Twitter

705
00:42:34,500 --> 00:42:36,400
picture.
It will Bud Foster.

706
00:42:36,500 --> 00:42:37,800
I met him at one of those Eco
event.

707
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,000
Talk to him five or six minutes.
Probably a little bit too long,

708
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:46,000
but yeah, Curtis going along in
the conversation.

709
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:51,200
Never hey, I met coach cab to
coach a, they should like invite

710
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,400
coach calf to all these events.
So he can just roast other teams

711
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:58,000
and make fun of other players.
So he's a great one.

712
00:42:58,700 --> 00:43:03,200
All right, when they they're not
coming to Wilkesboro rob.

713
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:07,500
You just need to get us a report
on that cross town rival yours.

714
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:11,000
What's his name?
Brian.

715
00:43:11,300 --> 00:43:15,300
King us with Cayman Smith, we
we're going to get some

716
00:43:15,300 --> 00:43:18,000
detailed.
We're going to some detailed

717
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:22,400
reporting on Caitlin Smith when
coach Robbie Compton defense has

718
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,700
to go against that kid on the
other line that you see here, we

719
00:43:25,700 --> 00:43:28,600
want to find Would they are
playing and bring him in, on

720
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:33,700
that Sunday to kill us.
All right, Ron before we jump

721
00:43:33,700 --> 00:43:38,800
into the big piece tonight which
is the the brain fry, the

722
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,100
interview the quotes and stuff
from a couple weeks ago as we

723
00:43:42,100 --> 00:43:45,800
look through with on the
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00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:51,400
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Now back to the episode.
All right Braun.

734
00:44:16,900 --> 00:44:20,200
So let's kick this.
It was an interview was about 12

735
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:24,500
days ago.
Now we're you know we looked at

736
00:44:24,500 --> 00:44:28,300
Andy bitters, info a lot.
Of the guys had stuff, but let's

737
00:44:28,300 --> 00:44:30,700
start with this one on the
defensive side of the ball.

738
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,600
Braylon Moore has moved to the
offensive side of the ball.

739
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,600
About.
Damn time.

740
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,300
Are you shot?
Not shot.

741
00:44:41,300 --> 00:44:46,700
Not shocked about not shot.
And the love with Brent price

742
00:44:46,700 --> 00:44:50,900
said about it.
You know, he talked about, he

743
00:44:50,900 --> 00:44:53,700
can be a good defensive tackle
which he can.

744
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,100
But then he went that, I love
the step when he said but he can

745
00:44:58,100 --> 00:45:00,200
be an all-conference offensive
lineman.

746
00:45:00,900 --> 00:45:05,400
Yeah, I think that's the big
thing that we're seeing is that

747
00:45:05,900 --> 00:45:09,800
you know as prize getting a feel
for what these kids can do he

748
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,900
see all right, this guy might be
able to help us more here.

749
00:45:13,900 --> 00:45:16,800
This guy like you to help us
more there and not just us.

750
00:45:17,100 --> 00:45:22,500
This guy might be able to Excel
and maximize his potential here

751
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,100
or there.
And I think That's the biggest

752
00:45:25,100 --> 00:45:29,300
thing because you know yeah when
you have depth issues like we

753
00:45:29,300 --> 00:45:31,900
have a defensive tackle which we
also have them on all the July

754
00:45:31,900 --> 00:45:35,500
to.
So you know, it's probably going

755
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:41,100
to pay Paul here but when we're
looking at, we're looking at

756
00:45:41,107 --> 00:45:44,300
this situation, it's about
getting guys into positions

757
00:45:44,300 --> 00:45:47,600
where they can be their best
regardless of where those holes

758
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:51,900
are in the roster because You
know, you can plug you can, you

759
00:45:51,900 --> 00:45:55,000
can find a guy in a portal or
you can you know, have a guy

760
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:59,300
that next man up but you can get
a guy that's out of position for

761
00:46:00,300 --> 00:46:04,400
three or four seasons and they
never get to their potential.

762
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,900
You've wasted that yes you
didn't get guys where they can

763
00:46:07,900 --> 00:46:11,300
be their best and then you
figure out how to fill in those

764
00:46:11,300 --> 00:46:13,900
holes if you need to.
And I feel like that, that's

765
00:46:13,900 --> 00:46:16,800
what he's going for here.
Yeah 100%.

766
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,900
It's a great way to put it
there.

767
00:46:18,900 --> 00:46:23,500
Braun you you deal with the deal
with the whole if a guy can be

768
00:46:23,500 --> 00:46:26,600
significant just better but
significantly better at one

769
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:30,300
position in the other like you
said damn the torpedoes like

770
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,800
we're putting them on all
offensive line could he help us

771
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,700
on the defensive line?
Yeah but he can really really

772
00:46:35,700 --> 00:46:39,400
help us on the offensive line.
Now speaking of the defensive

773
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,800
line the comment about pain in
his versatility.

774
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,500
I got a little bit shocked by
that because he talked about Out

775
00:46:45,700 --> 00:46:50,600
good pass rusher and all this
but when he mentioned that he

776
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:54,500
thinks he has the potential to
slide inside on passing Downs.

777
00:46:54,700 --> 00:46:58,700
I mean if that's the case that
is a win-win for the defensive

778
00:46:58,700 --> 00:47:03,800
line on both the edge and the
interior yeah let's just be a

779
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:08,300
little bit, little bit more pass
rush focused when we go into

780
00:47:08,300 --> 00:47:11,400
those nickel packages without
really losing something.

781
00:47:11,700 --> 00:47:14,700
Yeah, I think that's that's
going to pay some.

782
00:47:14,700 --> 00:47:19,000
Do it is because we are Earth in
all that d-tackle position this

783
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,600
year.
So anybody that can give us some

784
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:26,200
snaps even if it's only, you
know, two or three, a series,

785
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:30,000
right?
Like if anybody blow can help

786
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:31,700
here.
So I think that's going to be

787
00:47:31,700 --> 00:47:33,500
something that's going to be big
for us.

788
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:37,300
So I like that, I'd like
interested to see how paying

789
00:47:37,500 --> 00:47:41,200
holds up whether he comes in and
immediately takes over

790
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,100
obviously, Garbodor.
If he's going to be more that

791
00:47:44,100 --> 00:47:46,200
first man, out on the Second
line.

792
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,500
It's going to be interesting to
see how that that shakes out,

793
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,100
but he's at least going to be on
the 2D.

794
00:47:52,100 --> 00:47:56,000
So look for him to be getting
significant amount of steps on

795
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,500
top of, as we said, they're
plugging in and d-tackle at the

796
00:47:59,500 --> 00:48:02,700
three technique on some of those
bigger packages.

797
00:48:03,300 --> 00:48:07,300
Absolutely.
I just when he when he when I

798
00:48:07,300 --> 00:48:09,700
read about that detached from
like that helps so much because

799
00:48:09,700 --> 00:48:12,700
you got Pollard Kendrick and yet
Bowie, you know, they can play,

800
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:19,500
you need one more and now You
know, DNC same way though

801
00:48:19,700 --> 00:48:21,900
because you've got Garbutt the
known entity.

802
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,700
Everybody likes Cole Nelson and
feels like he could be the

803
00:48:25,700 --> 00:48:29,000
Breakthrough guy this year but
there's just not enough on the

804
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:30,600
end.
It's just not enough on the

805
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:34,000
defensive line in general.
I mean, you know, I'd love to

806
00:48:34,008 --> 00:48:36,400
see something in the next few
weeks, you know.

807
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,400
Yeah.
I mean, I think it feel decent

808
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,500
about the too deep like you got
garbage.

809
00:48:40,500 --> 00:48:43,100
He's a pretty good player for
us.

810
00:48:43,100 --> 00:48:45,000
Yes, he is.
And, you know, you got the

811
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:49,600
potential of Pain Griffin can
give you some stuff and I think

812
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,900
we're seeing cold Nelson come
along.

813
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,500
Who's going to be that five?
In that six that are going to

814
00:48:54,500 --> 00:48:58,300
get those, you know, about 10
steps a game that are going to

815
00:48:58,300 --> 00:49:00,300
make or break.
Whether you can hold up, right?

816
00:49:01,300 --> 00:49:03,300
It's true.
So that that's going to be the

817
00:49:03,300 --> 00:49:04,300
question mark.
I think.

818
00:49:04,300 --> 00:49:08,600
I think we're going to be be
okay, those first two lines,

819
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:13,100
both at Deanne and d-tackle.
It's going to be those, like I

820
00:49:13,100 --> 00:49:17,200
said, 10 to a dozen snaps that
that Lines going to have to take

821
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:19,100
that's going to be the question
marker.

822
00:49:19,100 --> 00:49:21,800
Are they going to be of the give
us enough to hold up?

823
00:49:22,300 --> 00:49:26,000
Yeah, it's also wondering can
see j.mccrary come up a little

824
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:27,700
bit more, just a little bit
more.

825
00:49:27,700 --> 00:49:29,900
You look good.
In the spring question is, can

826
00:49:29,900 --> 00:49:32,400
he take that step and the same
with the nape and they look good

827
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,700
in the spring?
But can they take the steps?

828
00:49:35,100 --> 00:49:40,400
But like you said, Brian, if you
tell us McCray and Pinay, yeah,

829
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:41,500
that didn't mean to make that
rhyme.

830
00:49:41,500 --> 00:49:44,000
But it did.
If you can give you can like you

831
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:48,700
said, just steal a Snap here.
Here they're saying, let's

832
00:49:48,700 --> 00:49:52,300
happens to be over there and
just being effective.

833
00:49:52,300 --> 00:49:56,600
Not, you know, not necessarily
blowing the doors off.

834
00:49:56,600 --> 00:50:00,700
Somebody, the being effective
good technique, you know whether

835
00:50:00,700 --> 00:50:05,100
it's causing disruption holding
down, you know, holding up a

836
00:50:05,100 --> 00:50:08,200
blocker.
That's it still has a little

837
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,000
things as the game of inches
that's going to be Sookie.

838
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:16,600
Now, speaking of games of inches
in the linebacker room, seems

839
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:20,600
like Brent problems Dax to lose
some inches and get a little bit

840
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,000
leaner and lose a little bit of
weight over the next couple

841
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,800
months here.
Yeah, looks like he wants to

842
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:28,800
actually drop as much weight as
he can.

843
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:34,000
Which I mean Yeah, that's going
to be interesting to see how

844
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:38,700
that shakes for him.
In this system, having a lean

845
00:50:38,700 --> 00:50:41,600
and fast linebacker is more
important.

846
00:50:41,900 --> 00:50:46,900
Even at a meeting that Mike.
So you know, that's probably the

847
00:50:46,900 --> 00:50:50,700
move at this point especially
since we don't know, whether Dax

848
00:50:50,700 --> 00:50:54,000
is going to be our best option
at that position or not.

849
00:50:54,000 --> 00:51:02,400
Yet, it seems like, you know, we
talked earlier about Keyshawn

850
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:07,500
artist sliding in there that,
you know, He wasn't quite there

851
00:51:07,500 --> 00:51:12,300
from a leadership standpoint
even though he was at least at

852
00:51:12,300 --> 00:51:15,300
or near dax's level in terms of
on-field play.

853
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,800
So it's going to be interesting
to see if there's a rotation

854
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:24,700
there, what that looks like.
But I think a later Dax is

855
00:51:24,700 --> 00:51:29,700
better because I'd rather Dax
Dex is shown me that he

856
00:51:29,700 --> 00:51:34,700
struggles sometimes shedding
blocks whether he's at the way

857
00:51:34,700 --> 00:51:38,500
he was last year or at the lady
was two years ago in 2020.

858
00:51:39,300 --> 00:51:44,100
So I think I will take the
leaner and faster Dax who can

859
00:51:44,300 --> 00:51:50,500
potentially get to the edge, get
to the outside, run sideline to

860
00:51:50,500 --> 00:51:54,500
sideline a little bit better
because he's probably going to

861
00:51:54,500 --> 00:51:57,000
have to have those questions.
Those head scratcher, please.

862
00:51:58,100 --> 00:52:02,100
Regardless and and that's that's
just I think the player that he

863
00:52:02,100 --> 00:52:04,000
is at this point.
We'll see if he can raise his

864
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:11,300
game up under Pride under Marv.
But yeah I would say a my

865
00:52:11,300 --> 00:52:14,600
expectations so I think the
Winger the better because it

866
00:52:14,607 --> 00:52:20,300
gives him a little bit more.
Versatility to make plays

867
00:52:20,300 --> 00:52:21,800
outside the box.
Yep.

868
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:23,900
And that's something that
brought talked about is like the

869
00:52:23,900 --> 00:52:26,700
mic in today's game, can't just
play inside.

870
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:28,800
They also have to be able to
arrange and that's why he was

871
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,600
looking for getting leaner.
Now, one guy, we know that can

872
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:36,200
range is the projected starter
at will, which is Alan Tisdale.

873
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,400
But one thing about Brown
Prowler, finding he does not

874
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:43,200
mince words.
He's not afraid to openly praise

875
00:52:43,300 --> 00:52:47,400
or constructively criticize
people and he was that way with

876
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,100
Tisdale.
In this interview and it will,

877
00:52:49,100 --> 00:52:52,800
he talked about basically, hey,
you know, when he's on, he's on,

878
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:56,700
he really good to be out there
for us, but then he talked

879
00:52:56,700 --> 00:52:58,500
about.
But when he's fatigued, he gets

880
00:52:58,500 --> 00:53:01,800
sloppy, and technique.
He, he's just not only good

881
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,500
players and it kind of in a
roundabout way.

882
00:53:05,700 --> 00:53:09,300
Ryan began discussing where
there might be some Sam's

883
00:53:09,300 --> 00:53:13,500
practicing, it will in the fall.
Yeah, yeah.

884
00:53:13,500 --> 00:53:16,700
I think that's to fold.
So I don't necessarily say this

885
00:53:16,700 --> 00:53:20,700
is processing.
Kids losing his job, he did say

886
00:53:20,700 --> 00:53:22,600
that there's some competition
there, right?

887
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:23,500
Yeah.
Yeah.

888
00:53:24,300 --> 00:53:25,100
Yeah.
Keller.

889
00:53:25,100 --> 00:53:27,800
And a couple of the Sams sliding
over as well.

890
00:53:27,900 --> 00:53:30,700
I know you just talked about.
So I think you know, there's

891
00:53:30,700 --> 00:53:33,000
there's some options that we had
there but I think what this is

892
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:37,000
telling us number one, it's an a
nation behind what we've been

893
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:41,000
seeing on film for the last
three years because we're

894
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:45,000
looking and we're saying damn
Tisdale will have these plays

895
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:48,900
where he looks like the best
defender on the field and then

896
00:53:48,900 --> 00:53:53,400
two plays later, he looks like
he's lost or just isn't getting

897
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,900
to where it needs to be.
Like there's there's just so

898
00:53:55,900 --> 00:54:00,600
many things that were just head.
Scratchers that we didn't know

899
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:03,100
whether is it effort, is it
fatigue?

900
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:06,400
Is it not knowing assignment
like, Like there were so many

901
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,600
things that we had question
marks on this definitely goes a

902
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,300
long way.
I think towards answering those

903
00:54:12,300 --> 00:54:14,200
questions about his inconsistent
play.

904
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:18,200
The question is number one, can
he get better clean now in the

905
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:22,000
fall because It's not so much, a
lot of fatigue.

906
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,000
I mean a lot of fatigue is
mental, right?

907
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:27,400
I mean, because I mean, you
know, these in shape.

908
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,600
Yes.
I mean he's not going, he's

909
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:31,800
going through this with
everybody else.

910
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:35,300
So, you know, he's in shape.
He at some point, there's got to

911
00:54:35,300 --> 00:54:38,500
be a mental block where when you
feel tired, when you feel like

912
00:54:38,500 --> 00:54:40,800
you can't give anymore, you give
a little bit more.

913
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:42,600
Yeah.
And you got to push their with

914
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:46,700
that, that's a mental thing and
sometimes it takes I think, I

915
00:54:46,707 --> 00:54:52,300
think this competition.
Is this like culture of

916
00:54:52,308 --> 00:54:56,500
competition that prize breeding
could help with that, because he

917
00:54:56,500 --> 00:54:59,900
is being pushed beyond that
limit consistently.

918
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,000
You know that given the option
to Quinn's, not giving the

919
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:07,500
option to not, not get to the
line or not, not go through it.

920
00:55:07,500 --> 00:55:11,300
So it's more than that.
So I'm hoping that that type of

921
00:55:11,300 --> 00:55:13,800
atmosphere is going to help him
so.

922
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:18,000
But number two, When we talk
about other guys getting reps

923
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:21,500
and we talked about Sam's
getting reps, if you can't get

924
00:55:21,500 --> 00:55:24,900
to his tail to where you want to
be, if you got other guys that

925
00:55:24,900 --> 00:55:29,700
can go in there and give him
some blows, some extra blows

926
00:55:29,700 --> 00:55:32,800
that he can be fresh for more
the game.

927
00:55:33,100 --> 00:55:38,100
You get a better Tisdale and you
don't get as many holes in those

928
00:55:38,100 --> 00:55:40,600
moments where he's fatigued.
Exactly.

929
00:55:42,300 --> 00:55:46,200
Now, one thing he did say and
obviously, Goes to one of

930
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,100
talking about having the same
practice.

931
00:55:48,300 --> 00:55:51,400
He feels good about the Sands.
He feels good about Kiante.

932
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,500
He feels good about Jr.
He feels good about kalai.

933
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,100
In the thing is, I think me and
you talked about the other day.

934
00:55:59,100 --> 00:56:02,800
Brian Gionta is the best
overall, he can do a little bit

935
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:04,900
of everything.
He can cover, he can Blitz.

936
00:56:05,500 --> 00:56:08,200
He can play Man, Jr.
Safety.

937
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,400
Probably more coverage.
Maybe play a little man,

938
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:13,300
collage.
You're going to come attack so

939
00:56:13,500 --> 00:56:16,500
we might be tipping our hands.
Let's I'd say you got to give

940
00:56:16,500 --> 00:56:18,600
tis a blow.
You move Kiante over to will and

941
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:22,700
you bring loss of him.
You might be tipping your hand.

942
00:56:22,700 --> 00:56:26,500
Hey, we're coming this time
because we've got on the field.

943
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,900
But sometimes that doesn't
matter, does it, its execution,

944
00:56:29,900 --> 00:56:31,500
like, you know, what's going to
happen?

945
00:56:31,500 --> 00:56:33,800
Now, you have to execute against
what we're doing.

946
00:56:34,500 --> 00:56:39,000
Yeah, be 75% of the time.
We're bringing an extra man.

947
00:56:39,500 --> 00:56:43,600
Anyway, anyway, so there's going
to be some degree of attacking

948
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:48,300
that that's happening.
regardless of who's at saying or

949
00:56:48,300 --> 00:56:51,600
who's at will, I don't
necessarily call it tipping your

950
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:54,600
hand, but I think he's
definitely saying I mean, you

951
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:56,800
know, we're coming after you now
we're just saying we got this

952
00:56:56,800 --> 00:57:01,200
specific guy coming after you
and you know if I know Lawson's

953
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:04,300
coming after me I might get rid
of that ball a little bit

954
00:57:04,300 --> 00:57:09,600
quicker than I'm ready to Just a
little bit, just a little bit

955
00:57:09,900 --> 00:57:13,500
because he's shown how quick he
can get there gonna get it's

956
00:57:13,500 --> 00:57:15,900
like the Walker thing.
If you keep Walker out there

957
00:57:15,900 --> 00:57:18,000
with their, maybe they're just
dropping him in the flats or

958
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:23,500
some sort of coverage, not
Blitzen, but I think how he

959
00:57:23,500 --> 00:57:28,400
feels about the Sam's, really,
really tells you that couple of

960
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:32,900
those guys, especially Lawson
that He looks at athleticism on

961
00:57:32,900 --> 00:57:35,100
the field.
If you've got some high

962
00:57:35,100 --> 00:57:38,500
athleticism he's going to find a
way to get those guys on the

963
00:57:38,500 --> 00:57:40,800
field because of the way he
likes to attack.

964
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:47,800
He values speed and athleticism
over some of some of those other

965
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:52,400
things that I think the previous
regime a evaluating over and

966
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:58,800
I'll leave it at that.
I think he's looking to get guys

967
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:02,800
that are fast that like to hit.
And that like to go after the

968
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,900
quarterback, especially if those
linebacker positions.

969
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,400
There you go.
All right, I probably said it

970
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:11,800
best so I'll throw it up here.
What's that?

971
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:13,900
You know what?
Skating, it can you stop.

972
00:58:14,300 --> 00:58:17,300
Can you stop if you know, it's
coming, can you stop in a lot of

973
00:58:17,300 --> 00:58:18,300
teams?
Cannot.

974
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:22,600
All right, let's go to the room
that he said basically he feels

975
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:24,700
the best about the defensive
back room.

976
00:58:24,700 --> 00:58:27,900
Talked about the safeties, he
feels like there's four guys

977
00:58:27,900 --> 00:58:30,800
there between Connor.
People strowman and Hawkins

978
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:37,900
which is great to hear because
only one of those guys Guys is

979
00:58:37,900 --> 00:58:40,600
out this year after this year.
And that's Connor.

980
00:58:41,100 --> 00:58:44,500
So that rooms ready to roll.
Not only safety.

981
00:58:44,500 --> 00:58:47,000
The safety room is in.
Good hands, going forward for at

982
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,000
least the next two to three
years.

983
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:53,900
So you feel good about that.
You got a bona fide leader in

984
00:58:53,900 --> 00:58:56,400
that room.
But you also have you know, one

985
00:58:56,400 --> 00:59:01,000
guy that's played significant
snaps, you've got a guy that has

986
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:05,000
played some decent time in his
short time here with strowman

987
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:06,800
and then you got Hawkins, that's
kind of mixed.

988
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:11,300
Here are there throughout his
time in Blacksburg.

989
00:59:11,300 --> 00:59:17,400
So you got a really good mix of
ability and experience.

990
00:59:18,300 --> 00:59:21,200
And we of the question is going
to be is Connors transition

991
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:23,300
going to be a good thing for him
will see.

992
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:27,600
I think that's the biggest
question mark for everybody

993
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:31,400
right now with the BBS, but in
terms of just experience and

994
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,200
ability, I feel pretty good
about safety.

995
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:39,900
Can I say something real quick?
Yep, I think if Connor wasn't

996
00:59:39,900 --> 00:59:43,800
doing a good as job at safety as
he could have been down at.

997
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:47,000
I had to Sam.
I think Brynn, probably flipped

998
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:48,700
him.
I don't think he would have

999
00:59:48,700 --> 00:59:51,500
waited her hesitated.
If he did, not feel comfortable

1000
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:55,700
leaving him back at free, safety
for field, safety, whatever you

1001
00:59:55,700 --> 00:59:58,100
want to call it.
I mean, look how he did the rest

1002
00:59:58,100 --> 00:59:59,900
of the year.
He's not been afraid to just

1003
00:59:59,900 --> 01:00:02,300
move guys.
Even guys, you're expecting like

1004
01:00:02,300 --> 01:00:03,700
Braylon.
Yeah.

1005
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:07,100
Mean, you know, Braylon did not
have a bad spring and It's of

1006
01:00:07,107 --> 01:00:09,000
tackle, he just felt better
there.

1007
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:11,400
So I think if he felt better
about it, he'd moved it.

1008
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:16,900
Let's talk about the corners.
Again, again, a group, he feels

1009
01:00:16,900 --> 01:00:20,800
good about with, you know,
Chapman and Murray strong, and

1010
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:25,200
Elijah Howard, and DJ Carvey.
But he did mention again.

1011
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:31,200
He still wants one more.
What what what sort of Why is he

1012
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,700
wanting one more and is the one
more?

1013
01:00:33,700 --> 01:00:36,100
Do you think he hasn't?
We haven't seen anybody come

1014
01:00:36,100 --> 01:00:39,300
through the portal because it's,
he doesn't want one more just

1015
01:00:39,300 --> 01:00:41,600
for this year.
He wants one more for two to

1016
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:45,500
three years or why is that?
Would that would be my

1017
01:00:45,500 --> 01:00:50,500
inclination out the gate because
I think he feels I've go one of

1018
01:00:50,500 --> 01:00:53,700
two ways.
So let me let me put a caveat in

1019
01:00:53,700 --> 01:00:56,900
there so I think he feels I
think he feels good about

1020
01:00:56,900 --> 01:01:00,700
chadman, he feels good about
strong and he feels good about

1021
01:01:00,700 --> 01:01:07,000
Harvey when he's in the slot and
I think he is fine with Marie

1022
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:12,000
and fine with Howard or Johnson.
Whoever is playing boundary and

1023
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,300
field respectively.
Okay.

1024
01:01:15,100 --> 01:01:20,600
Now I think what he wants is
either, he wants a dude, he

1025
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:23,800
either wants to do which, I
mean, they're very few of them.

1026
01:01:24,700 --> 01:01:29,600
Yeah.
And they many people because for

1027
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:34,400
what this unit has an
experience, they definitely lack

1028
01:01:34,700 --> 01:01:37,700
in terms of high ceiling High
Caliber player.

1029
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:42,200
There is not in terms of what
they've done so far.

1030
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:46,900
There is not that guy that's had
that one season that has said

1031
01:01:47,300 --> 01:01:49,400
damn you better watch out for
him this year.

1032
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:52,100
Exactly.
They're very they're a solid

1033
01:01:52,500 --> 01:01:55,300
Solitude of three guys.
Another two guys that you feel

1034
01:01:55,300 --> 01:01:58,800
comfortable with.
There's a lot of good depth but

1035
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:00,900
there's not anybody great on
that unit.

1036
01:02:02,100 --> 01:02:05,600
So you're looking for a dude,
short of a, dude, you want to

1037
01:02:05,607 --> 01:02:09,100
find a guy that has two to three
years of Eligibility left that

1038
01:02:09,100 --> 01:02:13,500
can play in that spot.
Either ahead of Murray or ahead

1039
01:02:13,500 --> 01:02:18,100
of Howard and Johnson.
That, that, that's what I'm

1040
01:02:18,100 --> 01:02:20,500
thinking, just because they
would like to see a little bit

1041
01:02:20,500 --> 01:02:24,200
of a ratchet up with that next
man, up there, in case there is

1042
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:25,800
an injury.
Yeah.

1043
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:30,200
All right, let's flip over the
offense run and, you know,

1044
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:32,400
something that just, I know it
jumped out.

1045
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:33,800
At me, it probably jumped out
more.

1046
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:37,600
So it's you, he was talking
about what you seen on tape

1047
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:40,900
already, Tyler.
And Joe, like multiple

1048
01:02:40,900 --> 01:02:44,900
formation?
Yeah.

1049
01:02:44,900 --> 01:02:46,200
Yeah.
We had a whole lot.

1050
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:49,500
With that with our buddy Robby
cup and this plug-in a little

1051
01:02:49,500 --> 01:02:52,600
bit here for us but we went
through, you know, we like

1052
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:55,700
multiple formations, we like
moving tight ends over the field

1053
01:02:55,700 --> 01:02:58,200
in motion.
We like lining them up, all over

1054
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:00,800
the field.
We throw some unbalanced,

1055
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:05,500
formations out there they deploy
the tight end, and they use that

1056
01:03:05,500 --> 01:03:10,200
to create the mismatches and the
areas where they can outflank

1057
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:14,900
the defense.
Yeah, and that's the bread and

1058
01:03:14,900 --> 01:03:17,200
butter and then they line up and
run a play at you.

1059
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:21,400
But it's just but it's just it's
just refreshing to hear it

1060
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:24,900
though.
Because again, I mean it's like

1061
01:03:24,900 --> 01:03:27,300
it's the theme.
Probably of the last six months,

1062
01:03:27,300 --> 01:03:30,500
it's the things we wanted to
hear about and hear somebody

1063
01:03:30,500 --> 01:03:32,700
talk about.
We're hearing about the things

1064
01:03:32,700 --> 01:03:34,400
we see.
We're here we're getting some

1065
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:38,600
answers with, especially talking
about how Rudolph use those

1066
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:41,100
tight ends, you know, you
talking about motioning, the

1067
01:03:41,100 --> 01:03:43,200
tight ends.
There's a lot of plays.

1068
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:47,000
They like to do that with or he
did like to do that with up at

1069
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:48,700
Wisconsin, which you feel like
you're going.

1070
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:51,600
To see in the Playbook this
year, something else, he was

1071
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:55,800
very adamant about and I think
we all feel this as tech fans

1072
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:57,200
and just football fans in
general.

1073
01:03:57,400 --> 01:03:59,600
He says, they've got to figure
out ways to be successful in the

1074
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:02,900
Run game.
And, yes, you know, and I think

1075
01:04:02,900 --> 01:04:05,600
some of the RPO elements that
they're bringing in with the

1076
01:04:05,700 --> 01:04:10,700
having 2, or 3 options, whether
it be running the ball, or

1077
01:04:10,700 --> 01:04:14,800
passing the ball, I think that's
going to help alleviate some of

1078
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:19,200
that.
I think slight drop off that

1079
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:21,200
we're going to see in terms of
offensive line play from this

1080
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:23,600
unit, this year.
I think some of the way they

1081
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:28,900
have the offensive scheme will
allow us to be more successful

1082
01:04:28,900 --> 01:04:30,700
in that.
So when I what I say they're I'm

1083
01:04:30,700 --> 01:04:36,700
thinking like so think of UNC
UNC for all their great skill

1084
01:04:36,700 --> 01:04:39,800
players, everything have a
pretty average to below average

1085
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:43,400
offensive line, bad things but
they can still it.

1086
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:46,300
When things are click and they
can generate yards, they can her

1087
01:04:46,300 --> 01:04:47,900
eight points.
Yes, they can.

1088
01:04:49,300 --> 01:04:53,100
So that's kind of what I'm
thinking with this scheme, you

1089
01:04:53,100 --> 01:04:57,000
can still generate all things.
Even when your offensive line is

1090
01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:01,800
advantage that at best average,
in some cases us light

1091
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:05,200
liability, right?
So we didn't talk about this but

1092
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:09,300
I want to throw this on you.
Rudolph has the pedigree of

1093
01:05:09,300 --> 01:05:13,900
creating consistently above
average to great offensive

1094
01:05:13,900 --> 01:05:16,700
lines.
One of the system like this.

1095
01:05:16,700 --> 01:05:19,000
And let's in let's let's let's
project.

1096
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:21,600
A little bit.
Let's say in two years.

1097
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:25,000
We're a top 15 offensive line in
the country.

1098
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:26,600
What can a system like that
doing?

1099
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:30,600
You have a dominant offensive
line, where you can completely

1100
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:33,700
dictate the terms?
Because when you can just line

1101
01:05:33,700 --> 01:05:37,700
up and run effectively, then
everything else becomes so much

1102
01:05:37,700 --> 01:05:41,500
more dynamic because you still
have to stop the run first,

1103
01:05:41,500 --> 01:05:42,400
right?
As a defense.

1104
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:44,000
That's lonely.
That's what you got to do.

1105
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:48,400
You got to stop the run first?
So it becomes so much more

1106
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:52,300
reliability and so much harder
for the defense to stop.

1107
01:05:52,900 --> 01:05:57,200
When you are heavily effective
at just lining up and running

1108
01:05:57,200 --> 01:06:01,700
your base, running Blaze, like
we're going to come at you and

1109
01:06:01,700 --> 01:06:04,100
then we're going to sprinkle
some of the other stuff in and

1110
01:06:04,700 --> 01:06:08,100
by the time you pay attention to
what we're doing running at you,

1111
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:10,200
we're under the other stuff and
you're going to be completely

1112
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:14,000
off guard and because now all
those setups work every time

1113
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:16,300
because they got to honor them.
Yep.

1114
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:19,300
All right.
Going back to the running back

1115
01:06:19,300 --> 01:06:20,800
room.
Was it did it interest you to

1116
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:23,800
him talking about that thing?
Some running backs might get

1117
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:27,000
play at wide receiver.
Not shocked.

1118
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:30,600
Nice Shot.
You know, we talked about chance

1119
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:34,100
black but we also think about
maybe a brace Duke, my slide up

1120
01:06:34,100 --> 01:06:36,800
there if he's not taking a
redshirt year this year.

1121
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:41,100
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I mean, that's not going to

1122
01:06:41,100 --> 01:06:43,800
be, I think a big shocker to
anyone listening tonight.

1123
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:47,900
You know, we know, we know
chance of black is kind of rain,

1124
01:06:47,900 --> 01:06:52,900
Blackshear 2.0, in terms of his
skill, set does a Couple things

1125
01:06:52,900 --> 01:06:55,400
a little better, does a couple
things, not quite as good, but I

1126
01:06:55,408 --> 01:06:58,000
think on the whole you can give
us that same type of play.

1127
01:06:58,700 --> 01:07:01,100
So I wouldn't be surprised
seeing him out there.

1128
01:07:03,500 --> 01:07:05,300
Just to give our wide receiver
room.

1129
01:07:05,300 --> 01:07:07,600
I think a little bit more
flexibility.

1130
01:07:08,500 --> 01:07:12,300
All right.
Um, overall he said just feels

1131
01:07:12,300 --> 01:07:13,900
really good about the running
back room.

1132
01:07:13,900 --> 01:07:16,500
He probably feels really good
that the running back room.

1133
01:07:16,500 --> 01:07:19,400
No longer has double digits in
it, to be honest.

1134
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:22,700
Yeah, we went from 12 to 9 now
down to six.

1135
01:07:22,700 --> 01:07:25,700
I think that's, that's a, that's
a nice number that you like to

1136
01:07:26,300 --> 01:07:29,300
grab onto great number another
room.

1137
01:07:29,300 --> 01:07:32,100
He talked about feeling really
good about and I think we've Do

1138
01:07:32,100 --> 01:07:35,700
this for a while now, but I tend
room between Drake between

1139
01:07:35,700 --> 01:07:38,900
Gallo.
You mentioned, tie teller who

1140
01:07:38,900 --> 01:07:42,100
was the I think the vision to
transfer in which was very

1141
01:07:42,100 --> 01:07:45,200
interesting that he mentioned
him had not heard much play

1142
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:47,700
talked about you know obviously
we know bombers going to be

1143
01:07:47,700 --> 01:07:53,800
doing stuff in Brian's favorite
they con right they Qantas

1144
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:56,600
joining the team this summer.
He's already there so let's

1145
01:07:57,400 --> 01:07:59,500
let's not forget him.
Like I said I think he has the

1146
01:07:59,500 --> 01:08:05,100
potential to Make some noise and
you one just because of the

1147
01:08:05,100 --> 01:08:08,900
skill set, he brings and the
frame that he brings out the

1148
01:08:08,900 --> 01:08:12,800
gate.
Yeah, the other pieces we talked

1149
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:17,399
about to we've been looking at
quarterback and you know it from

1150
01:08:17,399 --> 01:08:19,800
the comments and just everyday
everything's played.

1151
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:25,100
You feel like Jason Brown.
We feel good about him but he is

1152
01:08:25,100 --> 01:08:28,500
just going to have to do a ton
to overtake Wells.

1153
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:32,500
Yeah, they had it named the
starter but they have been that

1154
01:08:33,300 --> 01:08:36,200
unless something significantly
changes Wells as the guy.

1155
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:40,100
That's pretty much what Brad
Glenn said.

1156
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:44,200
Dallas Texas outline, right?
I think so, yeah, yeah.

1157
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:47,300
I haven't had a chance to read
that yet, but yeah, it was going

1158
01:08:47,300 --> 01:08:50,899
to say, Brad said a lot talked
about running.

1159
01:08:51,399 --> 01:08:56,399
What probably 8 to 10 times, but
not all of them be in designs.

1160
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:59,700
Yeah, he said he said, you know,
somewhere between nine and

1161
01:08:59,700 --> 01:09:01,600
eleven rushes for my
quarterback.

1162
01:09:02,300 --> 01:09:08,000
You know, game getting 60 to 80
yards but probably a third to a

1163
01:09:08,008 --> 01:09:10,700
half of those are not designed.
Yeah, Yeah.

1164
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:14,000
So basically we're going to have
some design with the other ones

1165
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:17,600
are just going to be breakdowns
and teaching guys when it breaks

1166
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:23,000
just go not six, not 60 but six
sometimes it's all you need is

1167
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:26,600
six and eleven times.
Some rpos have a quarterback

1168
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:29,700
Rush element in them.
So you know, that's usually the

1169
01:09:29,700 --> 01:09:33,200
third option in some, in some
cases you may you get, you get

1170
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:37,600
the design run, you get the
quick pass out and, you know,

1171
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:40,200
sometimes depending on the
design, there's an option for

1172
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:42,100
that.
Quarterback to to take off

1173
01:09:42,100 --> 01:09:47,899
depending on what reading is.
So, That might be anyone you

1174
01:09:47,899 --> 01:09:51,399
call that a design run when you
call that her, something

1175
01:09:51,399 --> 01:09:56,100
different but what could be a
scramble but still look.

1176
01:09:56,100 --> 01:09:59,000
Designed like if it's going to
be a RPO and you're gonna have a

1177
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:02,900
hard slander hard what a hard
book or something and it's

1178
01:10:02,900 --> 01:10:06,800
covered perfectly.
Well you know, you see it, read

1179
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:09,000
eyes up but then they
immediately run.

1180
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:12,000
It's just like, oh, that's an
RPO designer on.

1181
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:14,700
It's like no one.
The slant was taken away.

1182
01:10:14,700 --> 01:10:17,200
The guy came and took it away.
Way he immediately when he

1183
01:10:17,208 --> 01:10:19,000
didn't see if he knew he just
had to take off.

1184
01:10:20,300 --> 01:10:23,300
I like what you've you, we were
talking about what the

1185
01:10:23,300 --> 01:10:28,100
quarterback room is and your
what you said, it summed up my

1186
01:10:28,100 --> 01:10:30,000
thoughts perfectly sir.
Go ahead.

1187
01:10:30,900 --> 01:10:33,800
Yeah, so you know we're
comparing Grant Wells to a

1188
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:39,700
Toyota Camry everybody.
Not flashy, not not the biggest

1189
01:10:39,700 --> 01:10:43,100
name on the list in terms of
what you'd like to have, but

1190
01:10:43,100 --> 01:10:45,300
it's well equipped.
It's got all the stuff you need.

1191
01:10:45,300 --> 01:10:49,000
It can make The throws.
And it'll get you where you

1192
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:53,300
going.
And I think I saw him look giddy

1193
01:10:53,300 --> 01:10:54,700
up in the six of them.
Yeah.

1194
01:10:54,700 --> 01:10:56,300
Yeah.
You're not going to, you know,

1195
01:10:57,300 --> 01:11:01,000
drop out on the interstate when
you try to try to pull out in

1196
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:04,500
the in heavy traffic, you'll
learn you'll be able to get up

1197
01:11:04,500 --> 01:11:08,600
there pretty quick, but I mean
it's not going to it's not a

1198
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:12,700
it's not a Camaro.
It's not it's not going to blow

1199
01:11:12,700 --> 01:11:16,800
your doors off, man.
So it's Not a Corvette.

1200
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:21,500
Exactly.
But for the most part, for the

1201
01:11:21,500 --> 01:11:23,300
most part, we don't need a
Corvette.

1202
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:28,100
You need.
You want a Corvette every 1012,

1203
01:11:28,100 --> 01:11:30,400
snaps right.
There are situations where a

1204
01:11:30,407 --> 01:11:32,300
Corvette.
Gives you a significantly better

1205
01:11:32,300 --> 01:11:37,400
outcome.
But for the most part snap to

1206
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:41,500
snap a Toyota is going to give
you the same output, exactly?

1207
01:11:42,100 --> 01:11:44,900
Alright, that's all I'm saying.
Yeah, let's talk about the

1208
01:11:44,900 --> 01:11:46,900
whiteout room real quick.
You mentioned feeling

1209
01:11:46,900 --> 01:11:50,400
comfortable with Smith and
Lofton and then kind of saying

1210
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:52,900
he needs more from Blue Gosnell
and right.

1211
01:11:52,900 --> 01:11:54,700
Does that worry a little bit
that?

1212
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:59,100
I mean he came out and said that
I'm not worried about that.

1213
01:11:59,100 --> 01:12:04,000
I think you're just anyone that
has watched the spring game and

1214
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:07,900
go Look to things saw that, you
know, it wasn't Blues best

1215
01:12:07,900 --> 01:12:10,100
performance and I think some of
that was related to the

1216
01:12:10,100 --> 01:12:14,000
offensive line play and the fact
that Jason Brown didn't have a

1217
01:12:14,008 --> 01:12:17,400
ton of time, but also he had
that big drop Wide Open Play.

1218
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:21,200
The could have moved the stakes
on third down, you got to make

1219
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:25,200
plays like that at the power 5
level, you can't have drops when

1220
01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:28,100
it's a chance to move the
sticks, and keep your, your

1221
01:12:28,100 --> 01:12:33,000
drive alive because every Point
matters in certain games, right?

1222
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:38,400
So, We can't have that but you
know, I think between what he's

1223
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:43,500
dealing with.
Yeah, as he as he came over to

1224
01:12:43,500 --> 01:12:47,500
Blacksburg and I don't know if
that's still waiting on him and

1225
01:12:47,500 --> 01:12:50,500
he's still working through that.
But you know, I can obviously

1226
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:54,800
empathize with that situation
and understand that, if that was

1227
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:59,400
going on in my life, I probably
might not be as focus on the on

1228
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:02,600
what I need to do, as I would
undergo normal circumstances, so

1229
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:04,800
I get that and hopefully he's Do
that.

1230
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:07,700
Mostly he, he gets to where he
wants to because, you know, he

1231
01:13:07,700 --> 01:13:11,800
wants to go out and show out.
So yes, he does for our sake and

1232
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:14,800
his I'm hoping he's able to get
to the level that he can play

1233
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:18,200
it, because we've seen what he
can do with the highest level of

1234
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:21,400
his game.
So we're hoping he can match

1235
01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:25,900
that here, not playing against
Power, 5 competition, heavy ACC.

1236
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:28,800
Yep.
And again, he's had a couple

1237
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:34,100
good seasons and hopefully being
primarily with the ones.

1238
01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:38,800
Yes, and then again what
happened?

1239
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:40,800
It doesn't it won't leave his
mind.

1240
01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:43,900
It won't leave his mind.
But you hope that's time goes

1241
01:13:43,900 --> 01:13:47,600
on, it's not at the Forefront
because I think to be very

1242
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:52,600
honest, Jaden blue to have
practice in the spring was

1243
01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:56,000
amazing.
Yeah, happened that that in

1244
01:13:56,000 --> 01:14:02,900
itself is so much about him, but
hopefully gets in the fall

1245
01:14:02,900 --> 01:14:07,200
things a little bit more.
Or calm, the kid can show out.

1246
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:11,100
I think the kid can be the stick
mover, and we're going to need

1247
01:14:11,100 --> 01:14:12,700
him.
And I think him playing with

1248
01:14:12,700 --> 01:14:17,600
Wells is going to help, not
knock on Jason Brown, but I

1249
01:14:17,608 --> 01:14:19,800
think playing with Wells is
going to help plan being

1250
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:22,900
consistent which a lot of times.
That's what it takes, right?

1251
01:14:22,900 --> 01:14:24,500
Sometimes you just started
getting out there and you're

1252
01:14:24,500 --> 01:14:26,100
playing with the same group.
Every day.

1253
01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:28,600
You run the same route, you're
playing the same position

1254
01:14:28,900 --> 01:14:32,100
consistency, and you go right
into it.

1255
01:14:34,300 --> 01:14:36,900
All right, big guy.
Let's let's talk about it

1256
01:14:36,900 --> 01:14:42,200
because this is the worry point.
Oh yeah, Sublime.

1257
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:49,800
And you know when somebody says
I feel good about six guys And

1258
01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:56,200
you can name five of them.
I know the father died in five

1259
01:14:56,200 --> 01:15:01,100
of the six that he feels good
about and thankfully five is all

1260
01:15:01,100 --> 01:15:02,500
you need to start an offensive
line.

1261
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:07,000
Yeah, but five and five is not
going to make it through a 12 oz

1262
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:10,000
is not going to make it through
a power five seats and no, it

1263
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:12,200
will not.
So you feel good about Johnny.

1264
01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:15,800
We feel good about Katie.
Feel good about silos, feel

1265
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:19,100
pretty good about Parker and
feel good enough about Jess.

1266
01:15:19,300 --> 01:15:20,900
Chuck Hansen, right?
Exactly.

1267
01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:25,800
You see, when we look at, he
said, six, who is the sixth?

1268
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:28,800
And that got my mind.
That got my gears turning Heroes

1269
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:32,800
like, right?
Let's when I look at the spring

1270
01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:35,300
game, the I was there.
I watched it again a couple

1271
01:15:35,300 --> 01:15:39,800
times afterwards.
Jack hollifield is the person

1272
01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:44,100
that look, the best on the field
that wasn't in that group of

1273
01:15:44,100 --> 01:15:47,700
five that I just named.
So, he's Jack, hollifield.

1274
01:15:47,700 --> 01:15:54,700
The six is it a bob shit?
Who did not have a really great

1275
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:59,300
spring game?
Is it Daniel Miller chick who

1276
01:15:59,300 --> 01:16:06,000
had a up and down spring game?
That's the question and I think

1277
01:16:07,500 --> 01:16:10,000
it's no I had to put my if I had
to put my money in they will be

1278
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:11,700
J.
You think it's Jack?

1279
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:12,500
Okay.
Yeah.

1280
01:16:12,900 --> 01:16:15,900
Because there's no way anybody
else because everybody else is

1281
01:16:15,900 --> 01:16:18,700
either Walton walk home or true
freshman right?

1282
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:19,500
From?
Yeah.

1283
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:27,400
Our calculations.
Maybe maybe giving you said he

1284
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:30,600
played the best there, but when
you mix matching offensive lines

1285
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:34,500
and your mix mash and defensive
lines, that's really tough to

1286
01:16:34,500 --> 01:16:36,700
see, right?
He was with the group that

1287
01:16:36,700 --> 01:16:38,500
should have probably best the
best.

1288
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:43,600
So, so we'll see what with
Johnny was with Silas.

1289
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:49,100
He was, he was with that group.
So, you know, whether that you

1290
01:16:49,100 --> 01:16:52,200
have having Johnny Jordan,
because there is a steep

1291
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:54,800
drop-off at center after Johnny
Jordan.

1292
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:59,300
So having Johnny Jordan as your
Center makes everybody else

1293
01:16:59,300 --> 01:17:02,400
better.
I'll take I'll say that 4.4.1

1294
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:04,500
there.
If you were if it's from a

1295
01:17:04,508 --> 01:17:06,900
spring game perspective of
Johnny Jordan was your Center

1296
01:17:07,300 --> 01:17:12,700
your offensive line by default
was going to be So you take that

1297
01:17:12,700 --> 01:17:15,400
into account and look at that,
is that logic is performing

1298
01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:20,100
better or is Jack performing
better because of his ability is

1299
01:17:20,100 --> 01:17:23,200
he showing consistency and
practice and in scrimmages, when

1300
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:25,200
he's mixed matched with with
different players?

1301
01:17:25,900 --> 01:17:27,800
That that's what we'll find out.
I'm sure.

1302
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:28,400
No.
Yeah.

1303
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:32,300
Because we're definitely going
to have some point C, at least a

1304
01:17:32,300 --> 01:17:36,300
six, probably a seven or an
eight linemen that's going to

1305
01:17:36,300 --> 01:17:38,900
have to pull some significant
duty this year.

1306
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:44,000
So I mean if it's offensive line
I mean I played it.

1307
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:50,000
I got dicked up I miss games.
We usually had two or three

1308
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:52,400
offensive line.
Miss at least one game every

1309
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:56,700
year that's going to happen.
So we're going to have to have

1310
01:17:56,700 --> 01:18:01,100
at least another guy step up and
leave me and hopefully one that

1311
01:18:01,100 --> 01:18:05,000
can play tackle because right
now maybe Bob shit can play

1312
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:09,000
tackle.
He's the six because he can play

1313
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:11,000
tackle.
But you talk about getting

1314
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:13,500
nicked up.
And again why would why my

1315
01:18:13,500 --> 01:18:16,600
people are in this and Hokie
Nation or followed by and by he

1316
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:20,800
said it if we have a couple guys
get nixed it's sort of the

1317
01:18:20,900 --> 01:18:26,400
that's the oh shit moment.
Yeah absolutely anything beyond

1318
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:29,400
and interior sorry, anything
beyond a guard.

1319
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:35,800
Getting nicked.
I'm worried you know.

1320
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:41,500
It's going to be sort of one of
those ruff ruff Seasons because

1321
01:18:41,500 --> 01:18:44,800
it's going to be like if we go
through 12 games and no

1322
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:47,400
offensive lineman have
significant or Miss time.

1323
01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:49,900
It's a miracle.
So go ahead.

1324
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:53,800
Start praying, you know, some
stuff.

1325
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:58,700
Go look, I feel like, you know,
Jack, maybe Dan can give you a

1326
01:18:58,700 --> 01:19:02,300
game.
They have a half.

1327
01:19:05,100 --> 01:19:07,400
I don't know if a tackle or
Center goes down.

1328
01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:10,300
I'm worried.
I'm very worried.

1329
01:19:10,500 --> 01:19:12,900
It left.
Unless Jack can complete Center

1330
01:19:12,900 --> 01:19:16,000
as well as he can play guard,
but I feel like a jacket play

1331
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:17,600
center as well.
As you can play guard, he would

1332
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:19,200
have been playing Center in the
spring game.

1333
01:19:21,500 --> 01:19:23,600
Potentially.
All right.

1334
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:27,200
One real quick thing.
This is not hokey related Brian

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but I just saw this announced
earlier today.

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01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:35,200
The next five years of Army Navy
was announced, okay?

1337
01:19:35,500 --> 01:19:38,700
And here's a couple interesting
ones, they're going to go.

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01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:41,700
Maybe the first time ever,
they're going to play in Boston.

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01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:46,500
Are in play at Gillette Stadium
on the 23rd, 250th anniversary

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01:19:46,500 --> 01:19:50,900
of the Boston Tea Party and 2023
in, right?

1341
01:19:50,900 --> 01:19:53,900
This That I don't know how you
get tickets.

1342
01:19:54,900 --> 01:20:03,800
December 14th, 2024 FedEx Field.
For the 225th Anniversary of the

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01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:09,500
USS Constitution.
I've been told I like that

1344
01:20:09,500 --> 01:20:11,000
they're celebrating that I hate
that.

1345
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:19,500
It's at FedEx Field Stadium.
But From what I've been told

1346
01:20:19,500 --> 01:20:22,500
from people that went like if
there is ever a gain, you want

1347
01:20:22,500 --> 01:20:25,400
to go to.
That's not your team's game and

1348
01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:26,700
you can get tickets.
Go to this one.

1349
01:20:27,100 --> 01:20:31,000
If any if any game can make
FedEx palatable it's probably

1350
01:20:31,100 --> 01:20:35,400
it's probably is this.
Alright, anything else broken

1351
01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:39,000
and Hokie Nation while we've
been here for hours and 21

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01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:40,800
minutes?
Nothing of note, man.

1353
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:43,400
I think we're good to go.
All right, well, that will wrap

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01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:46,200
up this episode of The Boundary
Corner podcast.

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01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:50,300
I'm Curtis Wilson.
I'm Brian Ziegler that I

1356
01:20:50,308 --> 01:20:53,300
website, boundary corner be
t.com to listen to all of our

1357
01:20:53,300 --> 01:20:55,500
episodes.
Speaking of M codes check out

1358
01:20:55,500 --> 01:20:58,500
episode back in February where
Braun and Robbie talk about the

1359
01:20:58,500 --> 01:21:01,600
offensive and defensive side of
the ball to get you some insight

1360
01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:04,100
of what potentially you could be
seen on the field.

1361
01:21:04,300 --> 01:21:07,400
This September while you're
there, don't forget to follow us

1362
01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:09,800
on Twitter.
Facebook, Instagram, subscribe

1363
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:13,200
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1364
01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:16,600
podcast Source, including
Spotify, Amazon, and apple

1365
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:19,600
podcasts.
As Plays Jason long, our buddy

1366
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:21,300
plays this in and plays this
out.

1367
01:21:21,300 --> 01:21:23,900
I am sure he will be down at the
Grand and Farmers Market

1368
01:21:23,900 --> 01:21:26,900
numerous times over the summer.
So go check them out there.

1369
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:29,000
He's looking for more shows out
there.

1370
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:32,800
So anybody interested in Jason
up, he wants to play this

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01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:33,900
summer.
So yeah, fine.

1372
01:21:33,900 --> 01:21:36,200
Jason on Facebook, and hit him
up.

1373
01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:39,400
He is looking to play gigs
breweries.

1374
01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:43,000
Wineries potentially restaurants
down in the Roanoke, Valley

1375
01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:47,700
area.
Great guy can literally play any

1376
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:52,500
style Ow music.
I mean any so you know please

1377
01:21:52,500 --> 01:21:56,000
hit him up for balmy became
famous along with campus for his

1378
01:21:56,000 --> 01:22:02,400
prints covers.
So he did we think Shaq and by

1379
01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:05,700
all means for you guys out there
in the Roanoke Valley area that

1380
01:22:05,700 --> 01:22:09,300
might have interest in.
Can't find Jason online message

1381
01:22:09,300 --> 01:22:11,700
us.
We have been friends with Jason

1382
01:22:11,700 --> 01:22:14,100
for a long time.
We can phone call in and get

1383
01:22:14,100 --> 01:22:17,900
them in touch with you but as
always catch him on Spotify and

1384
01:22:17,900 --> 01:22:20,000
apple music.
We thank you for listening.

1385
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:23,000
And as always let's go.
Okay.