Gut Check
Boundary Corner Podcast
Gut Check

From excellent vibes and skydiving snafus, the first Spring Game of the Franklin era had it all. This week we not only give our opinions from a wild weekend in Blacksburg but we pass the mic and camera to you the listeners to give us your biggest takeaways from the Spring Game. Brian shares his favorite moments from the tailgate and Spring Game PreGame Show.

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And welcome back to the Boundary
Corner Podcast along with my

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partner Brian Siegler and
Jonathan Talley, I'm Curtis

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Wilson, and we are brought to
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drink in the river, which when I
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nice to sit on a tube just.
Get in the river, baby.

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Get in the river.
Drink.

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Get in the way, baby.
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on the Moray.
So the spring game has passed.

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The spring game is sprung.
And sprung, Brian went there.

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I hope some of y'all, I hope
some of y'all watched the

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pregame show.
Brian, you were vibes, dude.

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Straight vibes.
Hey man, you know what?

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It was great weather.
I had to, I had, I had to get

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the guns out.
I had to let everybody know what

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was going on and, and we talked
a little football and we had

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some good food.
Shout out Steven Wright, Nate

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Fullen, great host for that
event on Chicken Hill.

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You appreciate everybody that
that joined the table there and

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talked up a little hokey sports,
a little hokey football before

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they kick things off.
And you know, we saw a a

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skydiving fiasco.
It was a it was a great it was a

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great time.
And like I said the the event

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went really well and appreciate
everyone that showed up, came to

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talk to us, hung out with us
before we got going live, stuck

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around after, had some good
food, had some good drinks and a

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lot of them walked over to the
stadium with us.

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Very cool, Very cool.
Tally.

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Oh, do we lose tally?
We might have lost tally.

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Fucking Internet.
Yeah, obvious.

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We'll.
Get after you guys just.

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We'll get after.
We'll try to.

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Think if you think about moving
Alabama, make sure you get them

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that that that Internet settle
before you get in there.

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Tally, can you hear us?
He's, we're just going to

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continue to put these up.
Tally, what you got to say, man?

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Did you get to Did you get out
the pregame show with Brian and

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Alden, Muggleheads?
He must not be hearing us.

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Can you hear us?
Tally shoot him a message all

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right, so he is off somebody
jumped in give us a few seconds

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here We got to talk about a
couple things and then we're

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going to let y'all talk give us
a second don't if if you want to

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jump in that's fine just it it
might be a few minutes before we

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put it on it's going to.
Be a couple minutes, about about

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3:00 to 4:00.
We're just going to get the the

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introductions, the the
salutations out of the way.

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We got Tally back in here.
Prize drinking buddies back in

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town.
It's a shame he didn't get to go

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drink with him last weekend, but
Tally, did you get to see Brian

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and all the knuckleheads on the
pregame show?

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Yeah, man, I I got to watch it
looks like they was having a

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good time.
I was jealous.

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So Brian was definitely feeling
good, tearing them up, turning

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them back.
He didn't use the F word that

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much though, so he did.
Pretty good.

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I think I I was down to two this
year.

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I was down.
That's pretty good.

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I did.
I did sneak in a whale's vagina

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at the end.
So, you know, that's not because

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somebody told they, they told me
where Billy was for his birthday

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and they said he's in San Diego.
And I mean, I'm not going to let

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that.
You can't reference.

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Go by the wayside.
Got to get it, got to get it,

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got to get it.
But Tally, like me, we were both

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on the baseball fields for most
of the day.

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Stream Spring game, not even
stream.

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So we are depending on Brian
y'all, I'll be honest, I've been

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so busy between work and
everything.

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I've been trying to listen to a
few podcasts, folks who went, I

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know like Ricky would from Hokey
Hangover and some of those guys

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were out there, Tech Cylon,
obviously out there.

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I ain't even got to do that yet.
So I am really like, I'm not

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saying struggling, but I'm
trying to catch up as much as I

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can with Spring game before we
get into the Spring game.

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And yes, somebody has already
joined.

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If you want to join that little
QR code right up there, click on

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it.
I don't know if Brian's going to

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pick one in the chat.
Yeah, I'll be right.

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Now use that QR code.
That's going to be the best way

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to get on there.
That's going to take you

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straight to the link, baby.
You'll be able to join us here

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jump in have a good time talk a
little spring game.

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I'm hoping some of y'all got to
check it out, whether even if

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you weren't able to make it in
Blacksburg, got to look at it,

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you know a.
Little bit it won't.

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It won't anywhere, that's the
issue.

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I thought they had it on extra.
Nope.

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It got kiboshed.
Oh man.

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It got kiboshed at the end.
They're going to do like some 45

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minute special.
Not a fan of that.

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That was a pivot because like as
of Thursday last week, it was

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still on.
They had it.

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On the schedule.
It sure as hell was all right.

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Well, before we start bringing
people in here to get their

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thoughts on spring game, what
they like, maybe what they don't

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like, we got a couple pieces of
news here.

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Tally.
I think you, I think you will

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this into existence.
But Joseph Buck Buchanan, the

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four-star out of McDonough High
School up in Owens Mill,

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Maryland, a top 247 player, a
top 200 play, about 247 elite,

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elite defensive lineman, has
committed 63 and a half, 260.

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Some people got him at 270 and
is a big boy.

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What y'all think?
Of him maintain and he maintains

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that he is a defensive end.
He is not AD tackle.

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So he has been loud and proud
about that and I'm all right

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with that.
So again, haven't started seeing

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quite, you know the results.
I think we're going to see just

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because when you start looking
at high profile kids, sometimes

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it takes them you know, a little
bit to jump into the boat.

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But to have the activity that we
have to have, the visits that we

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have, the people on campus over
and over that we've been having,

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it's a testament to the staff
and the testament to James

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Franklin, what he's what he's
doing.

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I do got to say I got my boy
Will on here.

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If y'all don't know Will, man,
y'all go follow Will.

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That's my guy.
His wife's birthday maybe today

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or just past, but I see.
Yeah, I know he said happy

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birthday to Lindsay.
So.

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We.
Do want to shout out?

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Yeah, we want to shout out.
Happy birthday to my girl

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Lindsay and Will again.
It's like family to me man.

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Always a good time being Will
and hung out a couple times.

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He shows nothing but love to
your boy.

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Nothing but love to BCP.
So I did send you the link Will

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so you can hop on here and let
us know kind of how you feeling.

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I know we going to hear from
Phil.

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We got to hear from Phil and
before we go forward, Curtis,

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I'm going to tell you this right
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I have been looking at games in
Blacksburg and Airbnb's.

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It's ridiculous. 11 Airbnb it
said 20 I think it said like 20

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yards from Wayne Stadium $2000.
I thought it would be caught up

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in sleeping on the.
Floor somewhere, by the way,

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Brian, I was.
Going to tell you, I'll announce

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it over there.
There have been discussions that

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some of the cruise crew and the
ones behind us, the techs behind

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us, we might be, we are, we are,
we are potentially going Georgia

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Tech.
Like we told y'all, we said it

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right, we're Ted, Georgia Tech.
Then we say that Tally, it's the

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perfect game there.
There is, there is preliminary

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multiple families going down for
that weekend getting something

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somewhere.
So if we're going, we're going

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to get there, we're going to
figure it out.

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Tally's locking back up because
there's one other thing anything

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on Buck real quick, because I
mean, he's.

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I mean, absolute stud, I mean,
we talk about a guy that's

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that's that size, you know,
regardless of where he ends up

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position wise for Virginia Tech,
he's going to go out there and

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he's going to eat because the
the dude is is big.

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He's quick, you know, does does
the little things right even,

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you know, as a high school
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So like when you put those
pieces together, he's going to

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be a tough guy to stop and a
tough guy to keep off the field

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right away in my opinion. 100%
Tally, you had been, you had,

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you had texted me and Brian say
I'm going to get a list of like

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all the guys visiting and Tally,
tell me what happened as you

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started making your list.
It's too.

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It was too much, man.
I got overwhelmed.

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I got what's the word that
everybody's using now?

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I got overstimulated.
I got overstimulated that.

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Many.
Find out all the people that

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they had coming in.
So y'all's job today chat is to

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tell us what y'all seen while
y'all was there.

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From a couple of people that I
heard, they said they had

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commits lined up on the field,
you know, lined up down there,

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probably the biggest they've
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This was from a couple of season
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So I want to hear about it, man.
I want to hear kind of what the

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boots on the ground, seen,
smell, tasted, all of that good

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stuff.
And so to do that, what y'all

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going to do?
Hit that little QR code at the

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top and it'll take you straight
in here with us.

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We're going to try to cycle you
in as fast as we can.

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We got, you know, some people
you know already waiting here.

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So we're going to, if you want
to Curtis, we ready, we can go

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ahead and kick off.
Well, let's let's say one more

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thing.
We hit it up to a second, the

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parachute thing.
Just see, I got multiple videos

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from people, not me and Brian.
They got that.

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That was wild like and now
reading the story, basically I'm

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a I'm a butcher's name.
Y'all know me doing that right?

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Y'all put me in charge of this
Pasha Falanker, obviously

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military veteran everything.
And doing this a while the story

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coming out that basically the
wind shifted so hard that like

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it was he had two choices.
Either he was and again, my

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assumption Brian is because of
where he was, he was probably

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going to go into North End zone
is my assumption.

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And instead, he tried to clear
the scoreboard, hit the practice

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field, Everybody that knows is
right there behind lane, and he

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nailed the store.
Luckily, he's OK.

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No one else was hurt.
James Franklin had some weird

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happen.
But I mean, he came out real

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positive.
He was like, you know, there's

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been times I love what he said
in his pressure.

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I've set through three hour
delays.

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Weird stuff has happened in
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Having something like that
happen is perfect.

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Like because you don't get a
chance to talk through that

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stuff right?
Y'all both play where they've

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been like lightning lightning.
I mean, think about going back

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to the Purdue game, like nobody
got ready for that.

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Like this situation where you
know, you've got all this juice

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in the locker room and now all
of a sudden you got to go out

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there later than you expect.
Like you got to hold that juice

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in.
You got to hold that juice in

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for another 30-40 fifty minutes
before they, you know, they were

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able to get them down and get
things, you know, set up for the

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game.
It's it's a good way to kind of

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execute that without any stakes
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So I mean it, it could be a
blessing disguise.

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Everybody says this is this
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I'm like, man, we've been known
for, for an entrance and not

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much else.
You know, it's I, I think we're,

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we're maybe getting the monkey
off our back here a little bit

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with this thing and, you know,
we're going to keep it moving.

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Let's keep it moving.
Let's get some folks in here

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again, hit the QR code.
Whether you went to the spring

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game, you didn't go, you've been
following it close Things you're

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excited about, things you
noticed at the game, maybe

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questions you've got.
And we got our first in here,

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Big Willy Beeman, who I see
this.

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What up?
Listen.

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What's going on, man?
My dog's losing his fucking

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mind, but outside of that I'm
good.

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How y'all?
Hey man, happy birthday.

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To Lindsay.
To Lindsay, sitting next.

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To you, What's going on,
Lindsay?

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Just living my best life at 33
guys, just trying.

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To keep.
Up with y'all.

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Hey, let it RIP, let it RIP. 33.
How's life boys?

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Y'all recover from the spring
game yet?

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Happy birthday.
Happy birthday.

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Hey, I'm, I've, I've fully
recovered.

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I had a all day conference
today.

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So that'll that'll that'll get
the alcohol out of your system

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real quick.
Real quick now you know what?

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I missed the whole thing.
I was down here.

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I was at the RBC Heritage golf
tournament.

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I wish I could have been up
there, but I had to host

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clients.
You know that shit goes.

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But you know what I need is some
highlights.

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Please Sir, someone.
Not not a problem.

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It's nothing out there will.
Dude, the RC shit that I'm

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looking at with the badass
angles is not doing it, no.

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There is, so there is that.
Everybody.

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There is currently really
nothing out there.

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So we're depending on eyes like
Brian and other folks who went

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to the game.
And I mean, I've already bugged

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shit out, Brian.
We're getting together here in

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my neighborhood on Thursday
night to watch the draft.

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I'm going to bug the shit out of
them even more about who what he

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saw.
But well, let's just get your

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thing, man.
You, you clearly you follow

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everything pretty close.
And just what you've heard come

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out or just what you've been
following.

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What what is it?
What's giving you Jack?

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You know, first of all, I think
it's 6:00.

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You got to go to the RBC
Heritage because that's.

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Disgusting.
Every year we do it.

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By the way, you boys are all
invited next year.

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I got tickets for all of y'all.
That's how we roll dawg.

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We don't walk around.
That shit is way too hot boy.

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And then?
That.

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Means that's one way.
To do it.

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Hey, man.
Hey.

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So what's what's exciting?
Me man 2 that we can pass the

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ball and hopefully we can stop
the pass.

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Honestly, we get those two
things fixed from last year's

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team.
What's our record last year in

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y'all's honest opinion?
If we fix those.

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Yeah, those two things and
nothing else.

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Just last year we were seven and
five minimum with that roster, 7

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and five that roster.
Mr. Talley.

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Yeah, I would say at least seven
wins, you know, then that takes

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you to a bowl game and see what
you can do so.

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Ryan's about to say 10.
Watch him.

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No, I'm not going to go 10.
I'm not going to go 10.

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I mean, I think 7 or 8 would be
would be legitimate because I

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mean the biggest thing.
Like.

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We we weren't efficient pass the
ball.

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Like regardless of whether we
were hitting explosives or not,

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we were not efficient passing
the ball.

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We were hovering right around
50% completion for most of the

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year.
Last year we weren't throwing

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the ball a lot at all.
It was a time the.

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Fact that those numbers were
that low with that few attempts

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was kind of wild and the all of
the line was a big problem.

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Obviously we saw, you know,
inefficiency at the quarterback

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position, but on the other side,
that cornerback room was already

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a problem before the season
started.

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You go one man down after pride
goes down and.

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All of a sudden, huh?
You said pride, Clark.

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That's what I'm.
Saying when Pry got fired, we

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lost one to the portal
immediately.

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We had a quarterback, one of our
starter starting quarterbacks

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all of a sudden is in the portal
for a unit that was already thin

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and not playing at the level we
needed them to.

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So it it got ugly pretty quick.
And I mean, you talked about a,

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you know, true freshman like
JoJo Crimmin.

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There was kind of, you know,
holding his own respective to

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kind of everybody else on the
roster last year.

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Without a question, I I can't
wait to see Joshua Clark this

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year.
I think he's that.

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I don't want to use the word
D'Angelo Clark, but damn, he's

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that type type of athlete,
right?

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I think.
I, I think he's, he's got the,

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he's got the build, he's got the
size that you want, the athletic

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abilities off the chart.
You know, if he, if he cleans up

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a couple things, I think he
could be a really talented

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player.
And hopefully the energy for

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what's it Jack?
Chuck was white.

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I'm not getting that wrong.
He looks like he he's Nick, but

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it doesn't look like it's a it's
a long term thing.

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Yeah, we saw.
Tweeted out today, tweeted out

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today.
Blessed and everything and you

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know typically what you hear
from guys who get banged up, but

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it's like you just ain't going
to be able to do anything in the

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next six weeks you're going to
have.

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To deal with I'll.
Add to this, I'm actually from

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what I've heard from everyone,
the linebackers look improve

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from last year.
I saw you also, Brian on the was

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AACC network show, something
like that.

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Yeah, yeah.
Oh, Mr. Popular over here.

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I see you.
Yeah.

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We did, we did that.
We did that Monday morning.

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You popped out there today.
That was a good time kind of

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recapping everything a little
more big picture perspective

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just to kind of how things were.
You know what I saw what I what

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I felt, I mean, it was it was a
good time.

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Yeah.
It's it's going to be

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interesting to see if this if
this team can stay healthy with

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some of this new depth in there.
Yeah, AC CS not really trending

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up outside of Miami.
I think there's some opportunity

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for us.
Just be physical, be fast, man.

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Play like a hair's on fire this
year.

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That's what I want to see.
Everything else I think will

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take care of itself in my
opinion.

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It's true.
And having a guy that can pull

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the trigger like Grunt can, and
I think that's going to pay

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dividends.
You know, the thing that I like

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the most watching him play is
that he understands how to work

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in the offense.
He was quick with getting

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getting rid of the football,
getting it where it needed to

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be.
That alone is going to take care

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of a lot of the problems because
you're you're making those

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decisions quick before the rush
can get to you.

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And that's going to open up
things in the passing game.

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That's going to open up things
for the tight end.

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And if you can pass the ball
effectively, you're not going to

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have stacked boxes like we saw
all year last.

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Year yeah.
And you said that Brian, you

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you've mentioned a lot of quick
hitters, a lot of quick out,

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quick out, quick out and every
and and and and some people get

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upset about that.
But if you get it out quick and

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guys, the whole goal is get it
in guys hands who can make

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plays.
And I don't care if that's a

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running back.
I don't care if it's a tight end

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or a wide receiver.
Get it where they can make a

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play standing back there and
taking seven step drops unless

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you are any elite quarterback.
Could Gronk and Meyer get there?

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Maybe.
But you also have to have right

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tally.
You got to have a line that can

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actually hold up for more than a
second and a half.

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Like the honest truth.
If anybody tells me like, we

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think Gronk and Meyer would have
made this team like, 10 wins

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last year, no, he wouldn't have.
No.

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Yeah, he would have.
Yeah.

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Well, we got to run off.
Like Matt Moore made that

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comment earlier this year,
right?

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Well, we weren't as bad as we
thought we were at that

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position, right, based on who we
had a quarterback.

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And that's no no drag on Kyron
at all.

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Love that dude.
I think he played his hard out,

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right?
But he was designed to be a

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certain type of player.
He is not Jalen Hurts.

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It's much in comparisons that
people want to make to that He

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does not see the field the way
he needs to.

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He's got the arm strength for
it, but then the freaking day

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you got to get the ball where it
needs to be at the time it needs

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to be there, correct?
That's true.

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That's it, That's it.
And.

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And so so my thing was.
Like he was running with

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Montgomery.
Like timing is everything.

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Correct.
And I'm not even put all that on

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on Kyron, honestly, part of his
part of his offense, part of

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it's the the online part of it,
it's it's it all plays a factor.

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And that's my whole thing is
like this year.

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I just want to see a unit.
I don't care if it's, you know,

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a plus or a -, b plus, call what
you want, man.

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Just show me something that's
efficient for what you can be.

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And I think, I think this year
we're going to see, I don't

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know, I go 8 and four, nine.
Part of me would say 930 but I'm

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getting funky.
I got to see.

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If we see 8.
That'd be nice.

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I, I just want to see eight that
would, that would tell me that's

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a good start.
And you start doing that in the

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ACC, you're only one or two wins
away from, you know, back in

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that ACC tournament.
Man.

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It's true, it's very true.
And that's the that that that is

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the thing like right now,
because I haven't seen anything

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and, and, and maybe I mean, no,
we haven't.

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You're.
The only one who saw.

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Anything so like I can't I can't
ramp up like to 10 yet yeah

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maybe maybe a few drinks and
reports out of training camp

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coming in.
Maybe I can cause y'all know I

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can get stupid like that.
Chad is like.

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I'll be right back.
I'll be right there with you,

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Curtis.
I get stupid real quick.

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That's.
The hope that is the opium that

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happens.
Oh, I believe that.

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I believe we all get stupid real
quick when it comes to hearing

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things and then obviously seeing
games and all that stuff, but

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what, what else?
What else will we got?

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We got Kent who's jumped in the
the green room here.

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What else, man?
Honestly, I don't think there is

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much else if we can pass the
ball and stop the pass and and

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do everything else we did last
year, which I mean, look at even

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if the talent isn't excellent,
right?

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It's an upgrade from last year
without question.

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I think we can almost all agree
on that from a size and speed

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standpoint.
If the linebackers are filling

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the gaps like Brian says he
thinks they are, I'm OK.

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I'm OK.
It looked, it looked much

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cleaner.
It looked much cleaner.

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I know we're running a vanilla
offense against that defense

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right now.
You know, if, if we get some

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more misdirection in there,
things could be different.

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But linebackers look decisive.
They, they were where they

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needed to be, especially the
guys that, you know, I, I think

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we're going to see the most of
at that position.

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Safeties did what they needed to
do to help it run support.

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There wasn't a whole lot of
missed angles from kind of the

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front two guys, you know, we saw
a couple, but some of that was

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just, you know, Overton being
Overton and getting a little bit

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of an alley and and making some
things happen.

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But.
Speaking of which, before I get

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off because I know you got other
callers, can we get Overton in a

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different number, Callie?
Oh God damn bro 16 you don't.

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Like the 16?
You don't like the, you don't.

445
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:03,160
Like the teams on the running
back?

446
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,640
Single digits or 20s?
He no, he needs the single digit

447
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:11,360
or 20s period.
I was going to say 32 but I was

448
00:25:11,360 --> 00:25:15,600
like Nah, fuck that.
I think we're do have, I think

449
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,080
we're do have an 11 at running
back.

450
00:25:17,120 --> 00:25:20,360
I think we're due for that.
1111. 11.

451
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,560
That's a tough one to get up.
What you got to say, Tally?

452
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:33,080
He don't care as long as he can
fucking gain. 44 What about 44?

453
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,400
At running back.
Hey, listen, that's Rigo's

454
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,400
number, man.
That's white running back all

455
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,480
the time.
Give it to him.

456
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:41,880
You run like Riggins did.
Sure.

457
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,000
Yeah.
Give it to anybody that's not

458
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,000
your back, that's not your back
for that.

459
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,040
Give him Brandon.
He he runs more like hell than

460
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,560
fucking Riggins bro.
We we going to give Gray

461
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:55,480
Peterson 44.
Give Gray Peterson No, no, no,

462
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,680
hold on, Hold on.
Can't hold on with us.

463
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,520
We've had to have a real nasty
conversation.

464
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,960
Listen, 34 is Ryan Williams and
nobody ever ran like that.

465
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:05,920
He can't have 34.
But if he.

466
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:12,120
Can't have 34 if he does again
the shoes are big that have to

467
00:26:12,120 --> 00:26:18,640
be filled to run in like 34.
Agreed, 2522 What?

468
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,000
I'm saying bro, how much didn't
you think he weighed last year,

469
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,080
190?
He's put on, he's put on.

470
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,640
Some weight.
And he was popping kids.

471
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,960
I saw there was times last year
and I was shocked by it, where

472
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,000
he his skinny ass would go to
that gap and put a shoulder down

473
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,640
and run through people.
And I was like damn, what a fuck

474
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,360
90.
That's what's going to do with.

475
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,360
210.
That's mentality that you, you

476
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,000
run like that.
That's mentality.

477
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,360
That's not size or feel like you
run over people.

478
00:26:44,360 --> 00:26:46,720
That's mentality.
Like you don't know I'm here,

479
00:26:47,360 --> 00:26:49,160
you going to know I'm coming
through.

480
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,520
So yeah.
Earn that paycheck.

481
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,320
Earn damn right, Earn the
paycheck.

482
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,920
We get to say that nowadays.
That's right, that's right.

483
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,080
Hey Will, I appreciate you, man.
We're going.

484
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,000
We're going to get Ken in here.
All love, brother.

485
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,040
Happy birthday to Lindsay.
Y'all have a good?

486
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,120
Night, birthday, Lindsay.
Thanks, guys.

487
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:11,840
We'll see you soon, man.
We'll kind of set a lot there.

488
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,040
I I really appreciate what he
had to say on that.

489
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,880
Sorry we couldn't get Kent,
can't go in there.

490
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,560
Straightened out yeah, something
with the and and it can happen.

491
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:27,400
Stream Yard can if if you can't
get the audio connected, like

492
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,120
you won't be able to hear us and
then that massive delay.

493
00:27:30,120 --> 00:27:33,800
I, I it's like 15 second delay.
It's like radio delay.

494
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:38,080
You don't even remember that.
We're having multiple issues

495
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:42,520
here, Brian with Stream Yard 276
was going to jump up in here for

496
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,040
a second.
Well, broke it.

497
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,600
Well, it's your fault.
I love you, but you broke Stream

498
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:58,920
yard for Lindsay's birthday.
Ron, you technical man.

499
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,520
I'm I will drop the link in the
chat in case if if y'all can

500
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,440
join from the.
That way.

501
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,360
Yeah, we can try it that way.
Hang on just a second, there is

502
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:16,320
arguments.
Let me grab that link.

503
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,080
Well, if the link's messed up,
Brian, we just me and Tally just

504
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,800
going to ask you questions the
rest of the night and you got to

505
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:28,400
tell us what happened.
Well, we know, we know the tight

506
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,040
ends cost a whole bunch of
passes.

507
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:34,840
Holy God, all of them.
All of them Tally.

508
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:39,680
I was doing the math and I
forgot about Saint Germain. 16

509
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,480
catches for almost 200 yards
amongst those four and those are

510
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:49,240
the primary 4 from from what
Brian told us and what

511
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:53,040
everybody's saying Luke Luke
Reynolds we we got him one year

512
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,440
y'all this is the only year we
going to have him I'm going to

513
00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:01,440
make a bet on that in my line
let's.

514
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,560
Let's make the most of it.
On my line.

515
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:08,320
All right, we got Justin.
Let's see if Justin's works.

516
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,840
Is it working?
It is working, I just got to

517
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,000
give me a second to figure out
which one to mute.

518
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,560
Mute whatever you're listening
to us all because then it's a 15

519
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,040
second delay because I've had
that happen before trying to

520
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,120
share links to.
People, I can hear you and I

521
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,040
can't hear anything else, so
that's a good sign.

522
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:27,840
That is a damn.
Right.

523
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,560
I think Justin doing good.
Yeah, you good?

524
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:31,440
Yeah, I had this.
I've been.

525
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,160
I've been here.
Before SO I remember what this

526
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,080
was like.
So Justin, first of all, did you

527
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,720
make the spring yet?
I did not make the spring game,

528
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,440
man.
Like family things kind of took

529
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,440
precedent.
Kind of like you had the ball

530
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:47,000
games to go coach.
I had other things, but I tried

531
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:51,120
everything I could to find any
information I could get and the

532
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,280
only thing that was on the
Internet was the guy running

533
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,000
into the the Jumbotron with the
parachute.

534
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,280
Haven't been there.
And knowing what was underneath

535
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,440
him, I know that all the angles
from inside the stadium looked

536
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,120
like, Oh, well, he just dropped
right down into the into the

537
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,080
bleachers.
And I was like, no, it's 100

538
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,640
foot drop right down.
It's 100 foot drop and there's

539
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,560
like there's a fence right below
you.

540
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,240
Yeah.
It.

541
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,200
Also, I do, I do think it's
interesting that Blacksburg, it

542
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,960
took two ladder trucks to get
him down, but I'm glad they were

543
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,040
able to get him down without it
being a disaster.

544
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:24,120
I.
Understand.

545
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:25,720
I.
So.

546
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,320
I'll go to what we talked with
Will because we know Justin, you

547
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,400
followed closely.
Listen, listen, read as much as

548
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,600
you can.
Extract what's got you excited,

549
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:39,000
what's got you happy.
What for?

550
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,280
Well, just after spring, post
spring, whatever we want to call

551
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,400
it.
We got a quarterback that's not

552
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,640
afraid to pull the trigger.
So like, I haven't seen a whole

553
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,200
lot, but I mean, I just been
reading.

554
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,680
I think there's a big, I think
we already, it's fair to say we

555
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:58,960
know who number 1 is and can
feel pretty good that should

556
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,400
something happened to him that
there's a number 2.

557
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,240
And then I think it's a drop off
after that.

558
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:10,120
I do think that Hewn was brought
back down to earth a little bit

559
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,200
from that scrimmage where they
were saying he had 4 touchdowns

560
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,120
and was slinging around like a
gunslinger.

561
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:21,840
So he, he's a true freshman and,
and he needs to, he needs to be

562
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,480
a true freshman.
Learn right?

563
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:25,840
It showed.
It showed.

564
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:31,800
We got a Q B1 and that's that's
not afraid to throw the ball.

565
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,000
From what I've been hearing on
from different things tech

566
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,760
sideline and other people that
were there was that is that

567
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:44,640
Gronk is the real deal and we're
going to use the tight ends

568
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,320
finally.
Yeah.

569
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,240
Can I, can I put Brian a
question real quick?

570
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,640
And then it's about grunk just
because obviously if y'all Brian

571
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:58,360
was there live saw it.
What was the difference like

572
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,480
when you you watched all four of
them play?

573
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,400
Yes, I know he might have been
slightly inaugurated, but

574
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,960
Brian's slightly inebriated.
Still better than about 95% of

575
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,440
people when it comes to
football, but.

576
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,400
What?
We might be underselling it, but

577
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,360
yes.
No I'm not underselling it.

578
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,280
We used to get craft based still
correct.

579
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,080
We used to get blasted in
college.

580
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,600
If he could still be like so and
so didn't pull right, like like

581
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:26,040
what Brian slapped over there
and like now the guard, he just

582
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:27,320
missed.
He just missed the block.

583
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:31,440
I'm like, so that LeBron, what
was the difference, man?

584
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,400
Like what was the biggest
difference between Gronk and the

585
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,760
other 3?
You know, like I, I said it

586
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,960
before, but you know, this is a
guy from an offensive

587
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,440
perspective of what we're doing
schematically, he's coming in on

588
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,400
second base compared to
everybody else because he knows

589
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,360
what this is all about.
He knows where to go with the

590
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:55,040
football.
He is decisive with the

591
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,600
football.
I think it's the biggest thing.

592
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,080
And, and, and some of that comes
with comfort in the offense And

593
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,080
some of that's just, you know,
he's he's a guy that has already

594
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,800
been thrown into the fire and
has shown just that innate

595
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,200
ability to get the football
where it needs to be so you can

596
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:11,840
keep matriculating the ball down
the field.

597
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:16,600
And that efficiency is what
jumped off the screen for me and

598
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,800
jumped off the page.
And when I was watching, watched

599
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,840
everything live, like he just
knew what he was doing with the

600
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,520
football and where he wanted to
go with the football.

601
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:31,560
That's it.
That's.

602
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,560
And if you can mix in some
explosives with that, being able

603
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,240
to get the ball down the field
of the wide receivers, which

604
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,120
they didn't really, you know,
especially the in the first

605
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,920
half, they weren't taking that
many shots down the field with

606
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,080
anybody.
But one of the things we saw

607
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,160
back in the offense is, you
know, hitting the tight end up

608
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,600
the scene.
You know, those quick outs to

609
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,800
the tight ends just to get, you
know, those 5-6 yards, maybe get

610
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,880
a little run after the catch.
If you get a good, good little

611
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,240
angle there, you know, we saw
these things that are going to

612
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:03,720
be so useful to get a
quarterback comfortable running

613
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,480
the offense.
And when you start mixing those

614
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,400
explosives in there, that's when
you start putting some points on

615
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:12,880
the board.
I'm really curious to to know

616
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,280
where the wide receivers are
going to come into this

617
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:20,480
offensive game plan.
Like I've been sitting here just

618
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,080
on the for two years now waiting
to see some of these guys that

619
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,480
that that came in these talented
Virginia guys that I really want

620
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,360
to see them get out there and,
and show their stuff.

621
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,840
You know, Keelan, Adams,
Wiggins, I, I really want to see

622
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,320
what they have to have to offer
and what they can bring to the

623
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,360
field.
You know, I think, I think all

624
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:43,480
the fans are waiting to see
that.

625
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,560
We're wanting to see somebody
that can go over the top.

626
00:34:46,679 --> 00:34:47,800
Yeah.
And one of the, one of the

627
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,560
problems that I saw was, you
know, you, you had the, you

628
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:55,280
know, the, the primary 2 in that
first maroon group.

629
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,200
But when it came to the, to the
second group there with, with

630
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:04,440
the indecisiveness of hewn and
the pass rush and protection

631
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,040
issues that went along with
that.

632
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,760
Like there just wasn't a whole
lot of opportunities to get them

633
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,960
into the mix in that second-half
on the maroon side.

634
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,120
That's why you saw the white
side really, you know, take some

635
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:18,680
big jumps in the second-half.
I mean, you look at the final

636
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,720
score, 2112 White, but I mean it
was, it was mostly Baroon in the

637
00:35:22,720 --> 00:35:25,440
first half there.
And then when things swapped out

638
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,760
and we started getting some of
those second and third teamers

639
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,960
in there, that's where the I
think the overall depth on the

640
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,920
white side carried the day.
Whereas when you looked at the

641
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,240
kind of the more, Maroon
probably had a little bit more

642
00:35:38,240 --> 00:35:41,880
frontline talent but probably
wasn't as deep as the White

643
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,640
squad.
And we kind of saw that play out

644
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,480
in the first half and then the
second-half, you know, the white

645
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,760
kind of took over there.
Excellent.

646
00:35:50,240 --> 00:35:53,000
How'd the line look?
I hadn't heard anybody talk much

647
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,320
about on on on the socials about
the offensive line.

648
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,960
I liked what I saw from the
Maroon group in the first half.

649
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,840
I mean they really had they had
four guys that are kind of going

650
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,960
to be in that seven or eight man
rotation on the offensive line.

651
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,480
So you know, from a first half
perspective with most of those

652
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,320
guys are on the field, you could
see it, you could see a

653
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,000
difference when things started
getting shuffled in the

654
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,600
second-half.
Obviously we saw some protection

655
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,720
issues coming there.
And you know, they probably had

656
00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:27,560
more guys that were a little bit
further down the stream on the

657
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:31,120
on the maroon side as well.
So when when the swap started

658
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,360
there was a bigger drop off than
you saw on the white side.

659
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,040
Down 4.
All right, well, I'll hop off

660
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,760
here and let the next guy in.
Awesome.

661
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,000
Appreciate you, Justin.
You guys have a great night.

662
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,680
Thanks just as always man.
Watch the rest in the lobby.

663
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:53,400
Next up we have my third group
panel host from the Hokies

664
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:57,320
spring game, pre game show.
He he was he was called into

665
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,240
duty by yours truly at the end
there.

666
00:36:59,240 --> 00:37:00,360
So we're going to bring him on
now.

667
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,600
Chris Lester.
What up, Chris?

668
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,640
Chris, I sent a message to you.
You see it?

669
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,680
You still look tired, man,
because you went there all

670
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:14,440
weekend, right?
Yeah, well, First off man, good

671
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,840
to see you because you've been
Mia for like 2 weeks.

672
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:18,760
I don't know what you've been
doing.

673
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,400
I.
Am in the middle of some deep

674
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:25,200
crap at work and I'm sorry.
You, you can tell, you know, we

675
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,120
understand.
You know, you're busy, you're

676
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,280
big time.
You know, you've been doing

677
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,960
things around you.
You ain't, you ain't reacted to

678
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,400
us and talk to us, you know, So
I'm glad that you're back, you

679
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:36,760
know, it's.
Good to see you, Curtis.

680
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,920
Hey, you, you come here in the
middle of the week.

681
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,800
I, I, I, I can always be
entertaining here.

682
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,520
That's in the middle of the day.
Sometimes don't work.

683
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,560
I hate you and Jonathan.
Chris, I miss you.

684
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,280
Chris I.
Miss you too, Curtis, you know,

685
00:37:52,720 --> 00:37:56,320
and Jonathan Prometheus.
Tally some, homie.

686
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,880
Hey, Tally got the shout out at
the end of the spring game

687
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:01,280
there, Chris.
Chris had to try.

688
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,800
To make.
I know you, man.

689
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:04,920
I know.
That's good to hear.

690
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,160
B, what's going on, baby?
You know, me and B are, me and B

691
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,160
are one, you know, we've been
hanging out kicking it.

692
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:12,880
I've been kicking it with his
son and stuff.

693
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,400
So it's good work, man.
And yeah, I, you know, he called

694
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:20,000
me in and, and he, he got me at
the end because we had, had a

695
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:25,080
couple of lively drinks and we
were smoking cigars and we were

696
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,480
having a good old time.
So I, I think a lot of people

697
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:29,960
have a, a couple of different
questions.

698
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,080
I, I heard, I think it was
Justin.

699
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:36,400
He was asking questions about
the online and, and what he saw.

700
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,520
I, I had the opportunity, you
know, go up the week before and

701
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,480
take a look at some things.
I, I, I was, I was pleasantly

702
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,920
surprised that Big Bang James
hadn't lied to us.

703
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:52,640
You know, he hadn't lied to us.
He had said he wanted to have a

704
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,120
guy he could win with in the
starting.

705
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:59,320
He wanted a second guy he could
he could win games with and have

706
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:03,360
a guy he was excited about.
I was most pleased with what the

707
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,920
defense was able to do.
The secondary.

708
00:39:07,240 --> 00:39:09,960
You know what, last year where
we had the huge drop off when

709
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:14,920
Josh Clark, you know, got hurt,
it was like we went downhill

710
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,080
quick.
And you don't have that problem

711
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:21,920
this year in the secondary from
my man Jack was White to

712
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:26,240
Palador, Josh Clark coming back.
Your safeties are nice.

713
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,040
I'm I'm incredibly excited about
knowledge.

714
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:37,560
Harold Tyrell, Grant Junior,
Twenton Reddish's back and

715
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:43,400
Jordan Bass is showing us he's
that he can go from being a late

716
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:47,960
hit miss Reed and letting a guy
from South Carolina run wide

717
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:49,400
open.
He's learning.

718
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:54,120
So definitely happy with that
situation, the linebackers.

719
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,280
Did anybody talk about the
linebacker play?

720
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:01,000
Yeah, I talked about a little
bit like I I was especially the

721
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:02,680
guys that are going to play the
most snaps.

722
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,760
I was, I was very, very happy
with what they showed on

723
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,360
Saturday.
Yeah, Gabe Williams played.

724
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:14,640
I love what Spencer brings.
Noah Chambers is showing he's he

725
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,280
can beat that guy.
Oh, and also big, big shell.

726
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,360
You know, big shell, big shell,
though, as his Mama calls him.

727
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,240
You know, when she's at the
games, he was, he was played

728
00:40:23,240 --> 00:40:25,200
well in the secondary.
So I was, I was excited about

729
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,200
that.
The D line is probably going to

730
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:34,040
be probably as explosive and
nasty as ever.

731
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,880
You know, we we already know
about Kumari Cope and Elijah

732
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,520
Fall.
What he can do.

733
00:40:39,240 --> 00:40:44,360
I think it's Malik or Malachi
Williams and you know, a guy can

734
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,400
come off the edge.
We did have a little, we had an

735
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:52,040
injury with Zeke Chenowee, but I
think he's going to be fine.

736
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:58,080
So the defense was was awesome.
It sounds like it's coming out

737
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:01,400
that there were some bumps and
bruises and guys that got

738
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:05,600
nicked, but nothing that really
is going to effectively

739
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,680
everybody's making it to August.
Nobody is like crap.

740
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:12,040
They go on like, you know, you
always hear that it's like guys

741
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,960
getting nicked and Chris, I can
remember something you put like

742
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:19,480
so and so is Nick and it's like
my head went was football.

743
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,120
You still got your teammate, you
still you, you still got to

744
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:24,640
tackle them.
You got to hit them, you got to

745
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,880
block.
That's going to happen.

746
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,280
It's the big ones where it's
like, you know what it was with

747
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:35,560
Clark and over to a point last
year and that's that's that's

748
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:36,920
deflating.
It's just like.

749
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,600
Yeah, I mean, my, my biggest
thing is I wanted to get, get to

750
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,960
this point where we get through
the spring game.

751
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:46,440
We don't we get through spring
practice.

752
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:50,760
We don't have anybody who's
majorly, you know, injured, not

753
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,960
just hurt that they can't get
back and be able to contribute

754
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,280
during the season.
The one thing that I took away

755
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:01,720
from is that when people got
hit, they stopped, you know, so

756
00:42:01,720 --> 00:42:04,960
many times when we had guys like
so and you know, we here, we

757
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,080
were family, you know, when they
would hit Kelly Lawson, they

758
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,600
would keep going.
You know, when they would hit

759
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:15,800
Jaden Keller, if you know, if he
got to tackle somebody, they

760
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,560
would, they would keep going
forward.

761
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,440
You didn't have that happen
Saturday.

762
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,680
Guys hit, got hit and they
stopped.

763
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:29,480
And then and that's a big that's
a big that attributes to what

764
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,640
Jared Ferguson did the year
before with the strength and

765
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:37,400
conditioning and then carrying
on with Coach Lucy Lucy and

766
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,600
doing what he did.
So I was I was excited about the

767
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,680
defense.
So everybody was like, question

768
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,440
about what?
I mean, Justin said he was

769
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,360
worried about the white or
wondering what was going on, I

770
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,880
guess with the wide receivers.
Was that a big thing that that

771
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,720
people were asking?
What was y'all question about

772
00:42:50,720 --> 00:42:52,840
that?
Yeah, I think, I think Justin

773
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:54,160
said.
Like, you know, what was the

774
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,640
wide receiver production like?
You know, we look at the stat

775
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,040
sheet, you know, a lot of a lot
of tight end receptions, little

776
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,200
smattering after that.
You know, we were both there.

777
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:05,600
Chris, give me your take on
that.

778
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,600
I know you got a, got a, got a
good, good breath of knowledge

779
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,080
on that position.
Well, I, I, I want, I want y'all

780
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,960
to understand is that the
quarterbacks are taught right

781
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,600
now in spring, they're learning
the playbook.

782
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,160
So now they just want to do,
they want to make the right

783
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,600
decision.
So if they've got a 2, you know,

784
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:28,920
they got a high, low situation.
What they've been taught is this

785
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:35,280
Coach Franklin made a a
statement in in one of the

786
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,720
meetings, even say, listen,
don't miss out.

787
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,520
And and this we're the family.
You know, if you were out back

788
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,920
in the day when some of you guys
are out here wildcatting in the

789
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,880
streets, that was never my deal.
I was always been a one woman

790
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:49,800
man, you know that type of
thing.

791
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:55,320
But if you, you know, if you can
go get this 5, don't pass on the

792
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:59,200
five shooting for the 10 and
then the 10 ain't there and the

793
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,440
five is gone, right?
And that's what you saw a lot on

794
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,160
Saturday.
You're going to hit the the the

795
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,080
sure thing.
So the sure thing is going to be

796
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:09,880
dominating the middle of the
field.

797
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:10,960
That's what they don't want to
do.

798
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:12,800
You're going to hit a Luke
Reynolds.

799
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,160
And Luke Reynolds is an absolute
monster.

800
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,280
He's going to be that guy in the
middle of the field.

801
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,840
But as teams go in the middle of
during the year, they're going

802
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,640
to try to take that away.
But you've got capable guys on

803
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,440
the outside.
Aidan Green is a guy who can get

804
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,640
it done.
Q Caso Brown can get it done.

805
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,840
Tysha I always mess mess my
man's name up.

806
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,080
Tysha Denmark.
He he can get it done.

807
00:44:38,240 --> 00:44:41,280
Chance Wiggins had a good day.
And I was so excited for him

808
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,880
because he's been battling with
a little bit of a little bit of

809
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,520
injury and you know, he was
pushing through and that's what

810
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:50,560
he did and scored there.
And so I'm excited about him.

811
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,080
I'm always excited about the
kids.

812
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,480
So I mean, that's that's I'm,
I'm just glad he's running

813
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,240
around free and he was out there
open and things of that nature.

814
00:44:58,240 --> 00:45:00,760
So that's going to happen.
That's the maturation.

815
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:04,440
So they're going to go from
being I'm going to be, it's

816
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:08,880
going from being awkward to
mechanical to being natural.

817
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:10,920
Does that make sense?
Yeah.

818
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,480
So the the so the the being
awkward is I'm going to take the

819
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:15,920
sure thing.
You're taking a tight end.

820
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,320
But as they get more
comfortable, they'll start

821
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,680
taking those shots down the
field and you've got the guys on

822
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:22,760
the outside to be able to do
that.

823
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,120
What I saw from the offensive
line, you really didn't get the

824
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,360
full, you know, taking the
offensive line.

825
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:33,320
Howlin hasn't practiced at all.
You know, I saw we, I saw him on

826
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:34,960
the sideline.
He was on the white side.

827
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,280
Those are the guys who were
quote UN quote injured.

828
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,080
But he hasn't, he isn't, hasn't
played yet.

829
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,600
Justin Terry, he's coming into
his own.

830
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:45,360
You know, I got a report for
everybody.

831
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:51,000
Tommy Wilder is 6 foot seven,
322 lbs right now.

832
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,560
You're getting big, baby.
He probably going to show up.

833
00:45:54,840 --> 00:46:00,160
He going to show up on campus
320-5330, so he'll be there in

834
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:01,960
six weeks.
So I think, I think you're going

835
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:06,160
to have where you said 6 to 8.
I I think you might have 10 guys

836
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:07,760
who can play.
And that hasn't happened at

837
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:09,680
Virginia Tech since I've been
here.

838
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:11,520
I don't know when the last time
we had 10.

839
00:46:11,720 --> 00:46:13,920
We finally got tackles in the
building, Chris.

840
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,960
Man, man, you finally got
offensive lineman in the

841
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,800
building, man.
So you got 10 guys who can play,

842
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,920
man.
So I'm just glad.

843
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,360
You know.
Yeah, Big Franco didn't lie to

844
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:26,200
us, man.
We, we, we.

845
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:30,160
I think we're good to go.
I got Mr. Christopher.

846
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:31,680
What's up, baby?
How you doing?

847
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:33,360
I'm trying to be like you when I
grew up.

848
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:34,600
I told you what I said, big
fella.

849
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,400
Listen.
Man, listen, man, I'm always

850
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:37,640
trying to be like you.
What's?

851
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,440
Up, stop it.
I just want to say, hey, I

852
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,440
didn't even want to say shit.
I just want to say what's up to

853
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,240
Chris?
What's up, man?

854
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,960
I heard y'all saying I fucked up
somebody's shit earlier.

855
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,200
I didn't do nothing.
I went inside.

856
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:53,040
I was mind my damn business.
Next thing I know, we'll mess

857
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,680
somebody up.
Oh man, it's all good.

858
00:46:55,720 --> 00:46:58,360
But yeah, man, I was, I was
excited about what I saw.

859
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,360
As you can see, man, Coach
Franklin's got his finger on

860
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:08,880
everything and he knows that
people are looking, looking at

861
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:13,440
him to say, hey, how do we get
these guys to to move further?

862
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:17,000
Because I think the knock on him
is that he's got a guy who's

863
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,360
going into the draft, Drew
Allen, and everybody feels like

864
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:20,680
he didn't get the most out of
him.

865
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:25,560
He's had the knock on him and he
hasn't had that quote, UN quote

866
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,600
break out wide receiver, but you
got guys around them.

867
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:32,400
I just think if everybody's
patient and allow this thing,

868
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:36,200
though to just develop, we'll
we'll get to where we want to

869
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,720
get to.
I'm officially on the USS.

870
00:47:38,720 --> 00:47:44,000
I'm lying and you know I'm I've,
I've already took the mooring

871
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,160
lines off and I'm ready to get
this thing out in the out in the

872
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,800
water Tally, you awful dag on
quiet, man.

873
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:50,640
Come on, man.
I was.

874
00:47:50,720 --> 00:47:52,880
Going to say that earlier.
I'm glad I'm back on being.

875
00:47:53,720 --> 00:47:56,240
All cute over there, man.
What's up, man?

876
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,920
Hey, I I wasn't able to go to
the spring game.

877
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:02,440
So I'm just listening to the to
the experts and seeing what the

878
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:06,440
seeing what the what the fields
was, how people was liking it.

879
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,720
Like I said at the beginning, I
was trying to get the lay of the

880
00:48:08,720 --> 00:48:12,320
land and you know, all I got to
see was a couple of videos from,

881
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,240
you know, different people,
parents and stuff like that.

882
00:48:15,240 --> 00:48:19,920
What I can say is there was some
lineman that was ducking to get

883
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,560
off the bus.
I haven't seen that in a long

884
00:48:22,720 --> 00:48:24,640
time.
Not sure who.

885
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,240
I'm not sure who all of them
was, but I know there was some

886
00:48:27,240 --> 00:48:28,720
people ducking to get off the
bus so.

887
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,240
Yeah, yeah, real quick.
Who was it?

888
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,280
Y'all seen that YouTube video
today?

889
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,520
Or the D lineman?
Was it Malachi?

890
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,400
Was it Williams?
Yeah, Malachi Williams.

891
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,880
Yeah.
And this is no pun on Cunningham

892
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:45,440
at all.
That man was putting Antoine

893
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,960
Riley moves on people in that
video.

894
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,040
So I'm kind of curious to see
what the D line really looks

895
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:55,840
like.
I've heard what, 6 deep at the

896
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,120
end?
I've heard there might be an

897
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,040
injury on the D tackle line.
But outside of that, I mean, you

898
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:04,960
got to be 4 or 6 deep
competitive, at least 4, right?

899
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,280
Yeah, you got.
You got Elijah Falls, you got

900
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:12,840
Kamari Copeland, you got Gerard
Johnson, you got you got Eric

901
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:14,840
Mensa, you got those guys
inside.

902
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:16,360
What's the kid?
Ereka.

903
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:17,160
Ereka.
Yeah.

904
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:18,600
Randy Ereka.
Yeah.

905
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:22,560
Ereka, yeah.
I think real quick, Willy will

906
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,280
let me just say this, just from
conversations that we've had not

907
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:31,640
only with Chris but other people
it, it's the way the floor has

908
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,040
been raised. 100% I.
Agree.

909
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:39,160
I mean, the way the floor has
been raised is because you, you,

910
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:44,320
we, you feel right now like when
you know, we used to say what

911
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,080
you want to say, we could say
man, maybe 4 or 5 deep, yadda,

912
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,840
yadda.
And you kind of felt like, man,

913
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:51,760
that's, that's like perfect case
scenario.

914
00:49:52,240 --> 00:49:57,400
I don't feel like saying 5 or 6
deep at the end is like perfect

915
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,600
case scenario.
I think that's legitimately can

916
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:02,920
happen.
I think we talked last week,

917
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:04,480
Chris, I know you were
listening.

918
00:50:04,720 --> 00:50:07,120
We're talking about being 6 deep
at wide receiver.

919
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:09,840
I, I think it's going to and
it's not going to be a blink.

920
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,840
It's not going to be like as
long as these kids develop and

921
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:16,440
this happens and this happens,
it's like, no, I, I, I think

922
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,120
we're just going to be this
deep.

923
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,360
Like I don't, I don't, I think
there's, the floor is raised so

924
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,920
much.
It's like there's enough, hey,

925
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:28,560
there's enough places you can
play on, you know, those

926
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:32,960
specific positions, but it's
like it's not pipe dream

927
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,480
anymore.
Like you just feel like just

928
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,400
looking at the tape on these
guys and seeing their

929
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:41,160
backgrounds.
It's like it's truly when we

930
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,080
start talking depth, it's like
I, I, I don't think I'm pipe

931
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,920
dream anymore.
Like I truly think that this is

932
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,200
actually going to happen for
numerous positions where it's

933
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,560
going to be like, well, you
know, so and so and so and so

934
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,120
got banged up.
And it's like, I don't care.

935
00:50:54,240 --> 00:50:57,200
The next two are just as good.
And they're going to be able to

936
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:00,480
continue to carry it on where
last year and for the last few

937
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,800
years, maybe in the last decade,
it's just felt like so and so

938
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:04,360
got hurt.
Oh.

939
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:08,360
Crap, Yeah, I mean depth.
Depth is real.

940
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,400
And when when you talk about
college football, if you don't

941
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,400
have depth, you don't have a
whole lot because there's only

942
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:18,280
so much that frontline can do,
especially on defense.

943
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,400
You talk about the the amount of
stats of these guys are going to

944
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,120
have to play.
You got to be almost too deep in

945
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,640
every position on defense to
feel really good about your

946
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,240
defensive situation.
And that's even before you start

947
00:51:30,240 --> 00:51:33,080
factoring in injuries just cuz
you got to have bodies that are

948
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:36,000
rolling in and out of there.
You know, a little bit different

949
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,360
on the offensive side, you know,
you're going to have, you know,

950
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:42,000
some kind of primary Subs, but
when we talk about that side

951
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,040
wide receivers, where you're
going to see most rotation

952
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:45,920
there, you're going to see those
guys work in and out.

953
00:51:46,720 --> 00:51:49,120
You know, when they're running,
you know, two or three long

954
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,360
routes in a row, you're going to
see guys moving in and on and

955
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,600
off the field.
So I mean, that's really

956
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:55,200
important.
And obviously we know what we

957
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,560
got with Hawk.
We got Overton in there as well.

958
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,440
So you know, you at least got
two really good running backs

959
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,400
you can rely on when the when
the fall rolls around, you know,

960
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,600
you mix in a couple other guys.
That's going to be a pretty deep

961
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:08,280
room as well.
So feeling good there.

962
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:12,480
I mean, there's not really a
position that I feel bad about.

963
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:15,160
And the depth has been raised
across the board.

964
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:18,480
So I mean, it's, it's really all
about going out there, executing

965
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,920
the game plan and making sure
you, you know, you don't fall

966
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,600
into that pattern of letting
some of those close games get

967
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,520
away from you at the end.
I, I and, and you're, you're

968
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:29,600
spot on with that.
You you're spot on with that,

969
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:30,960
Brian.
I think if you come off the

970
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,640
field, when you get your
opportunity to get on, you're

971
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,240
going to be you're going to know
your assignment, you're going to

972
00:52:36,240 --> 00:52:38,880
go want to go make a play
because you don't know when you

973
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:40,560
might not, you might get back
in.

974
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:45,040
I mean, you know, if and you
know, if Jeff goes out, yeah,

975
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,560
Jeff goes out, Hulk will come
in.

976
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:51,440
We still haven't seen Messiah
Mickens and you know, he's going

977
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,720
to come in and he's going to
come in and play and like, and

978
00:52:54,720 --> 00:52:58,920
like Coach Franklin said, you
know, Bill Davis in the past, we

979
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:02,160
would get a transfer guy in and
we'd be looking for that guy to

980
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,360
be he's going to come and bring
a loaf.

981
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,720
And Bill Davis got to fight to
get to get snaps.

982
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:08,960
He going to fight to get snaps,
man.

983
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,480
And that's what that's what you
want to have.

984
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,480
So you're right.
If you go, if you go 10

985
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:19,400
personnel, you can walk out
Aiden Green Brown on one side.

986
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,680
You put Snook Peter Ken on the
outside and then you can turn

987
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,760
around and put put the kid in
the slack or Takai heat.

988
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:29,280
If somebody gets nicked up, you
don't feel like, Oh my God,

989
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:33,360
Brown goes out, but the guy he's
right there and he's ready to go

990
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:37,520
out there and produce, right.
We haven't seen Marlon Jackson

991
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:38,960
yet.
You know it, it is.

992
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:45,320
So it like you said, they have
raised the floor so high and now

993
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:49,600
you're looking at the, the
signal before we like, hey, if

994
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,480
our frontline guys go down,
we're in trouble.

995
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,480
That's not the case.
If I, if one of our frontline

996
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:57,760
guys go down, you got a guy just
as good.

997
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:01,240
Just say and and go and go.
Go to work.

998
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,240
Or to say, I'm going to cut you
off, Chris, my bad dog.

999
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,360
I was just going to say, too
think about from this

1000
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,560
standpoint, like Hawkins and
Overton do the thing all game.

1001
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,920
We're actually up by 6-7,
whatever, call what do you want?

1002
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,680
And then all you got to do is
have Bill Davis just pound up

1003
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,960
the middle and actually get some
push for the first time in

1004
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,160
years.
Right then I hit the.

1005
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:25,080
Stonewall hit 2 yards in the
back in the backfield.

1006
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:27,320
Because.
They're fresh on the O line in

1007
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:30,240
the 1st place.
You know you can close out games

1008
00:54:30,240 --> 00:54:33,640
for the first time in years.
And I don't have to worry about.

1009
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,200
Passing it for three yards an
out or 4 yards an out to get

1010
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:39,120
that first down.
Then we had to hope Kyron would

1011
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:43,080
hit.
I don't mean that to be sound

1012
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,640
like shit talking, I'm just
saying it from a standpoint of

1013
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,240
physical football.
Yeah, because but this is the

1014
00:54:48,240 --> 00:54:50,640
thing though, I know we talking
a lot about players and

1015
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:54,080
personnel and depth and stuff
like that, which is great.

1016
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,040
You know, all the discussion is
great because that's what I

1017
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:57,080
want.
But guess what?

1018
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,320
Let's address the elephant in
the room because that shit don't

1019
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,680
matter right now.
It don't matter.

1020
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,920
I want to know what the fuck was
Coach Pride doing on that

1021
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:08,160
sideline?
He got fired and he back in the

1022
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,960
building.
This was his first time being in

1023
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:17,080
front of that many fans since he
got his ass ran all over by ODU

1024
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,600
and ran out of town but really
didn't leave town.

1025
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:23,280
So all of the players being
healthy or not healthy or who's

1026
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,640
going to play, we don't know
what team we're going to see

1027
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,960
going in the fall camp.
So we got a lot of stuff that

1028
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:30,520
still got a transparent for the
end.

1029
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:34,000
I want to know from the people
who was there, what did that

1030
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,520
coaching staff look like?
And specifically, what did that

1031
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:42,200
defensive coordinator look like
going through the pregame, going

1032
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,720
through, you know, warm ups
going through.

1033
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,640
That's the stuff that that that,
you know, if I was there and

1034
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:50,320
that's what I would be looking
at because again, I like coach

1035
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,680
Pryor.
I think he's a great guy, you

1036
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:54,280
know what I'm saying?
He's came on the show a couple

1037
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:57,720
times and he's very charismatic,
but I don't care about that.

1038
00:55:57,720 --> 00:56:01,800
I want to win.
So my my question to the chat to

1039
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,480
Chris Bryant.
I know you guys was yeah, what

1040
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,400
we getting out of the defensive
coordinator right now?

1041
00:56:08,240 --> 00:56:10,240
You want to run it Brian?
Or I can run it from what I see.

1042
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:15,280
You can run it go for.
It listen, he looks absolutely

1043
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:19,720
comfortable in his skin.
I had a chance to see him and

1044
00:56:19,720 --> 00:56:21,840
talk to him and he he seems
relaxed.

1045
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:25,360
He's like back in his element.
I think the one thing that he

1046
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,920
ended up doing for us a couple
of years is he was away from

1047
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:32,320
what he likes to do and he just
wants to coach football, man.

1048
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,440
He just wants to be able to
coach guys get get tell them

1049
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,200
what they need to be able to do,
you know, and walk them through

1050
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:40,440
it.
And he's just back in his

1051
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:43,920
element.
Some guys are meant to be head

1052
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:47,040
coaches and some guys are just
meant to be great coordinators.

1053
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:50,600
And I think Brent Prize is meant
to be a great coordinator.

1054
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:53,880
And that's what he did.
He had, you know, his guys were

1055
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,080
on point.
They didn't make mistakes.

1056
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:59,560
The guys that he's got in his in
his different places, coach

1057
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:06,600
midgets, you know, don't coach.
It's Nick.

1058
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:07,960
I can't.
I don't I I want.

1059
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:09,560
To say Nick, Nick Perry.
Yeah, Nick Perry.

1060
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:11,120
Yeah, Nick Perry.
I was going to call him another

1061
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:14,320
name, but those guys are just
coaching their guys up.

1062
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:18,480
And he was fine, man.
He was fine being in the

1063
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:22,200
building, you know, didn't pull
his pen pad out, had his shades

1064
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:27,560
on, you know, You know, And man,
you're looking refreshed, man.

1065
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,960
And so I think, I think Brett
Pry, you're going to get the

1066
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,680
best out of Brett Pryde, and
that's what we want.

1067
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:38,600
From the standpoint, imagine if
you got demoted, still made the

1068
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:42,280
same money and half the
responsibility and then only the

1069
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,360
amount of effort you put.
The amount of.

1070
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:47,200
Effort you put in that job to
make your name again, because

1071
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,560
you know life goes on after
this, right?

1072
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:51,920
Listen.
And then Franklin, it said, it

1073
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:55,560
told us before I was going to
take jobs elsewhere and I was

1074
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:59,440
taking Brent Pride with him.
You take Brent Pride with him.

1075
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,720
Because even if that was a
pitch, Even if that was a pitch,

1076
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,200
can he coach linebackers?
Oh, he can coach, Absolutely,

1077
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:11,120
yeah.
That alone won't make us OK.

1078
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:15,160
He he's got, OK, we, we could
say it.

1079
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:18,560
He's got better linebackers than
he's had before.

1080
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,560
Let's just be honest, man.
Money's a hey.

1081
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:25,440
Hey, let's talk a little bit one
one thing I want to say, Tally,

1082
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,760
I don't know if you noticed
this, It's not, it's not full

1083
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:31,120
price.
Got a little bit of a mullet

1084
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:35,760
going on and, and he's got the
shades on and he's got he, he,

1085
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,960
he looks like a different human
being from a comfortability

1086
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:40,160
standpoint.
He's rocking the.

1087
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,160
Bullock, he's got a little bit
of a Bullock going over the

1088
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:44,000
back.
Like not not.

1089
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:47,080
Not a lot, but just.
But not like, yeah, yeah.

1090
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:49,120
Yeah.
Yeah, just just just South of

1091
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:50,640
normal.
Just South of normal.

1092
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:54,120
You know what I'm?
Saying so, we are CC football

1093
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:55,680
team, OK?
Listen to me.

1094
00:58:56,480 --> 00:59:00,080
Listen, if Denzel Washington can
fly a plane drunk.

1095
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:08,200
Going to say but I like.
It I.

1096
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:13,000
Don't care what he is, but I
need to see.

1097
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:17,640
I just need to see some life on
that sideline, you know what I'm

1098
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:18,120
saying?
Like.

1099
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:23,280
I think I said this earlier when
I before I bounced off, I was

1100
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:26,760
like just fly around and not to
share people, be physical.

1101
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:31,080
I mean, the thing that we knew
about James Franklin was that

1102
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,000
he's going to get people in the
building.

1103
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:37,040
I did a job of it.
I would say, you know, no

1104
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:40,080
discount to what he did.
He let he raised the level of

1105
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:41,480
talent that we getting in
blacks.

1106
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:43,560
With less money.
With less money.

1107
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:47,160
With less money and then you get
James Franklin, so the talent

1108
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:48,720
and the recruits and things like
that.

1109
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:50,760
I'm like that.
That is great.

1110
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:52,920
I'm glad that we doing it
because I love to get into

1111
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:55,360
recruiting.
Even though I try to like stay

1112
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:57,680
out of it and Curtis keeps on
pushing me back in it.

1113
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:00,880
I know that we going to get the
guys there.

1114
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,960
But I want to know once we get
them there, what are we going to

1115
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:05,960
do?
How we like?

1116
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:10,000
We can't keep.
We got to beat Miami or Clemson

1117
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:13,000
this year one way or the other.
And we're going to be one of the

1118
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:15,560
two, I promise.
I promise we'll be one of the

1119
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:19,400
two you got.
I'll put something on that.

1120
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:24,040
You got, you got four games.
You got four to five games that

1121
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:27,040
will, you know, you can
officially say you're back.

1122
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:29,880
You go, you go to Maryland.
If you can go beat, you beat

1123
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:32,520
Maryland on a field, you do your
thing.

1124
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:36,400
You come back on a Friday night
in Blacksburg and beat

1125
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:38,440
Pittsburgh.
That's a statement.

1126
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:41,920
Then you turn around and you
take a trip down to SMU, play

1127
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,480
SMU, get a dub there and
Clemson.

1128
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,840
Then you know, you get down to
the last two games of the

1129
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:50,560
season.
You know you you know you 8, you

1130
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:54,560
know you 8 and one nine and O go
to Miami.

1131
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:57,040
You've you've already beat Miami
before.

1132
01:00:57,040 --> 01:01:00,120
I don't care what nobody say.
When I got to get Charlotte to

1133
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,800
help you beat me, I whooped your
ass.

1134
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:07,000
And I told every Miami fan when
they went to go play Indiana

1135
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,160
this year, y'all weren't going
to be Indiana.

1136
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:12,640
So I believe if you get me to
that point and I'm starting to

1137
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:15,240
get everybody filled out and you
got to defend.

1138
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:17,600
You got to defend the middle of
the field with both of my tight

1139
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:20,960
ends and my wife received.
My wife received is going to

1140
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:24,320
win.
So you know, listen man, I've

1141
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:25,880
done this for the last three
years.

1142
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:28,000
I've booked the room in
Charlotte for the past three

1143
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:29,640
years.
It ain't going to be no

1144
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:31,360
different this year.
I'm going to book a room in

1145
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:34,040
Charlotte until they prove me
wrong that I got to cancel it.

1146
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:38,960
So that's why I'm at with it.
Well, Chris, will, I appreciate

1147
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:40,560
y'all we got.
We got somebody else in the

1148
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:41,560
green.
Room we got to get.

1149
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:44,600
On here, man, I'll get out, man.
But hey, man, it's always, like

1150
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:46,400
I said in the back, man, it's
always a great time to be a

1151
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:49,120
hokey and man, I'm.
I'm glad.

1152
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:51,240
I'm glad to see you guys,
Curtis, Thank you.

1153
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:53,200
I know you're live now.
You're not in the witness

1154
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:55,960
protection program.
Yeah, I know.

1155
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:57,640
You alive.
So that, yeah, that.

1156
01:01:57,760 --> 01:01:59,920
Was more important to me.
I will listen, Chris.

1157
01:01:59,960 --> 01:02:00,840
I will.
I will.

1158
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:04,200
I will make a promise, I will.
I will respond at least once a

1159
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:05,800
day when I get a message from
you.

1160
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:10,520
Once a day you know I'm alive.
That's all I need man.

1161
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:14,560
Driving to Richmond trying to be
like, I'm worried about you.

1162
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:17,400
Before y'all shut us out of
here, I just wonder, hey, I'm

1163
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:19,520
going to be at Clemson.
I know Chris is going to be at

1164
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:20,600
Clemson.
I'll be at.

1165
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:22,600
Clemson, y'all come on down
here.

1166
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:24,800
Me, me and me and Chris already
got it hooked up.

1167
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:26,760
We already talked about it.
Yeah, so.

1168
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:30,120
You coming?
Good.

1169
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:32,040
No shit.
Hey, don't, don't.

1170
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:33,560
Don't shake the head.
You don't mean it.

1171
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:39,000
You wouldn't like you better be
there, bro, because my wife can

1172
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:41,320
be pissed the fuck off.
I want to have to deal with

1173
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:50,360
that.
I'm shaking with y'all right

1174
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,720
now.
My wife, you know, my wife has

1175
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:55,280
actually been the one that's
been looking for the looking for

1176
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:58,320
the tickets for.
So she's got a discount thing

1177
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:00,600
through her through her hospital
she works for so.

1178
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:07,120
Hit me up, We'll figure it out.
So we get tickets together near

1179
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:09,280
Chris because Brian, I know
you're going to be there, right?

1180
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:16,440
Let me see what I can do.
I've never met you bro, but you

1181
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:18,960
go ahead and bring your ass.
That's it man.

1182
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:20,320
Hey man, good night.
Hey man.

1183
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:22,440
Good seeing y'all man.
I'll talk to y'all soon.

1184
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:25,080
Y'all be boy.
Appreciate y'all, y'all be here.

1185
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:29,160
All right, from these
knuckleheads.

1186
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:32,280
Let's let's get him in here, the
Godfather himself.

1187
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:35,600
We clicked at the same time.
There he is.

1188
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:38,760
Hey now, when somebody talks
about a man missing in action

1189
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:40,160
when?
It's true.

1190
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:44,600
The white has been all over the
place.

1191
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:47,080
How you doing?
Hey, what's up?

1192
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:49,400
What's up?
What's up, Dee?

1193
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:53,440
White What's happening, man?
Hey man, I'm blessed man.

1194
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:57,800
I've been between my business
and between my son and my

1195
01:03:57,800 --> 01:03:59,920
youngest daughter.
I'm getting ready for my oldest

1196
01:03:59,920 --> 01:04:03,320
daughter to graduate.
I mean, my 3 kids and my

1197
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:05,520
clients, I've been swamped.
I've been busy, man.

1198
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:08,880
So things are slowing down just
for these next few weeks, you

1199
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:10,040
know.
So I was like, you know what?

1200
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:11,680
I'm in my, I'm in my Home
Office.

1201
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:14,600
I was like, let me jump on here
with my guys, man.

1202
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:18,600
The best podcast in the game and
run my mouth a little bit about

1203
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:22,840
Virginia Tech football this year
in my office where I watched

1204
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:24,000
Tech.
Yeah, I got like a little

1205
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:28,040
stress, a little stress ball.
I'm getting older, I'm getting

1206
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:30,320
older.
So I got to make sure I got

1207
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:33,000
something to calm me down.
Hey, look though, I just want to

1208
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:35,240
speak on a few things man.
And then I'm going to let I know

1209
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:36,680
y'all got other people that want
to jump on.

1210
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:40,520
I was listening to Chris do an
excellent breakdown and some

1211
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:43,320
stuff.
I just wanted I I literally took

1212
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:45,920
it back to like the presidential
debates and took some notes.

1213
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:50,040
So one thing, one thing he was
saying about, you know, Virginia

1214
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:54,520
Tech being back, I'm part of
that group that created the

1215
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:57,400
expectations that everybody
wants to get back to, right?

1216
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:01,800
You'll know Virginia Tech is
back with two things.

1217
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:05,840
And that's when they learn how
to close and finish games and

1218
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:09,240
they're winning more than four
or five games, meaning the

1219
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:12,160
standard for Virginia Tech was
between nine and a half, 10 and

1220
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:14,960
11 games.
So if Virginia Tech is winning

1221
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:17,240
10 to 11 games, then you know
they're back.

1222
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:21,640
And then maybe 1/3 component is
physicality.

1223
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:26,520
I feel like during the latter
part of the Fuente years and

1224
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:30,480
here the last few years with
pride, Virginia Tech just wasn't

1225
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:33,000
physical.
And I don't mean like Caleb

1226
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:41,120
Woodson and my God, this what
you call the safety from Phoebus

1227
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:43,360
that Chris was talking about
hitting people out of bounds.

1228
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:46,400
Yeah, doing that.
Yeah.

1229
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:48,000
I'm not talking about hitting
guys late.

1230
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:51,120
I'm talking about physicality on
offense and defence where you

1231
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:54,640
can get on 3rd and one, you
don't get stuffed at the line of

1232
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:57,680
scrimmage oil, you don't stop
the guy on 4th and one and their

1233
01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:00,760
power gets pushed forward.
So that's the combination of

1234
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:03,400
knowing what you're supposed to
do and your strength and

1235
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:07,080
conditioning program.
Another thing man too is like,

1236
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:09,960
you know, I keep the excitement
is infectious.

1237
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:13,440
I do think that Franklin is
definitely going to get some

1238
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:16,360
instruction and accountability
to practice, but just from a

1239
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:18,680
standpoint of somebody has been
in that locker room, somebody

1240
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:20,560
that has played this game at a
high level.

1241
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:23,320
The one thing that's never
talked about until we start

1242
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:26,120
winning or losing and you not
going to really be able to tell

1243
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:29,920
from the spring game, but I'm
curious to see who the leaders

1244
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:33,360
are this year.
You can't really get an article

1245
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:37,520
about leaders and leadership
when it comes to like a spring

1246
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:41,280
game or spring practice.
But one big issue, 1 big issue

1247
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:45,400
I've seen is that we don't
really, well, we haven't had

1248
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:49,840
leaders, you know, and I mean,
that's also because, and this is

1249
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:52,040
no shot at any kid, because I
know several kids at the

1250
01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:55,000
Virginia Tech program, but you
know, I keep it real.

1251
01:06:55,560 --> 01:07:00,160
Nobody in this program as far as
the players coming in or the

1252
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:04,120
players returning now, one hokey
on this roster has ever really

1253
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:07,760
won at the collegiate level.
Nobody on this roster has won.

1254
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:11,960
So as much as the vibes, the
good, as much as we can talk

1255
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:17,000
about the depth and the DNS,
they got to learn and show not

1256
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:21,640
just us as fans and media guys,
they got to prove to themselves

1257
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:24,440
they know how to win.
And that starts with beating the

1258
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:27,520
brakes off VMI and Boat Race in
Maryland.

1259
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:33,480
You if you go to if you go to
Maryland and you win 1914, you

1260
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:36,160
got problems.
If you if you win a dogfight

1261
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:39,120
with VMI at halftime, you got
problems.

1262
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:43,280
So to me, the measuring sick is
coming out and knowing how to

1263
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:45,840
play physical football and
understanding your your

1264
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:49,000
assignments.
I mean, depth is one thing and

1265
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:51,800
money helps, but it's a lot of
teams.

1266
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:53,120
I've said this before in our
group chat.

1267
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:58,360
There's a lot of programs that
don't have as much NIL money as

1268
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:01,040
tech and they had 9 to 1011
wins.

1269
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:04,640
So money gets you more talent.
But you know, a lot of these

1270
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:07,120
guys we got bro, they got they
got to show they know how to

1271
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:09,240
win.
Like, and that's not saying

1272
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:11,760
because Jeffrey Owitz and junior
I noticed to see was six years

1273
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:13,800
old.
He's a he's always been a

1274
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:16,720
winner, but at the collegiate
level, none of these guys in

1275
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:19,640
that locker room can talk about
winning, you know what I'm

1276
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:21,600
saying?
So I just want to hear, I just

1277
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:23,640
want to be a voice of reason.
I know there's a lot of

1278
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:25,319
excitement, you know what I'm
saying?

1279
01:08:25,319 --> 01:08:28,560
But I just feel like we got to,
we got to kind of be.

1280
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:32,120
A little of the expectations.
Yeah, like let's let me calm

1281
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:34,000
down.
Let's calm down not, and I'm not

1282
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:37,120
saying calm down with the
energy, but I, I was watching

1283
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:40,439
Tally when I was in the waiting
room in the studio and I was

1284
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:42,800
watching Tally.
I said Tally is looking like how

1285
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:46,160
I'm feeling and thinking because
he's he's at he brought up the

1286
01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:49,880
fact that how is Prague going to
handle the defensive coordinated

1287
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:51,680
position?
You can't go off a spring game

1288
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:55,040
because it's a glorified
scrimmage in a squad scrimmage.

1289
01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:59,640
We'll know given the adjustments
on the road in a hostile

1290
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:03,200
environment.
We'll know if we get up 13 to

1291
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:07,160
nothing and we push the league
to 2027 to nothing.

1292
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:10,720
That's how you know the not
because of what we did last

1293
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:12,279
weekend.
You can't.

1294
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:16,040
That's, you know, and my last
point you guys can talk about, I

1295
01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:19,439
wasn't at the spring game and
they didn't televise it, but we

1296
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:21,680
got we got the running backs of
the playmaker.

1297
01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:26,399
I know we got a bunch of
receivers, but we really don't

1298
01:09:26,399 --> 01:09:30,399
have a, we haven't seen a
consistent group of receivers

1299
01:09:30,399 --> 01:09:34,439
that have made plays like the
guys like Jared Boykin, Danny

1300
01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:36,040
Cole.
We need that.

1301
01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:39,160
Like, you know, Tech's usually
when Tech is usually balling,

1302
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:41,479
and I'm including the tight ends
too.

1303
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:44,760
They usually have a tight end or
two or they have a group of

1304
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:48,479
receivers that extend the field
extend, you know what I'm

1305
01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:50,200
saying?
Like make plays down the field.

1306
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:55,760
We have not really had anybody
you fear from a standpoint of,

1307
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:59,320
oh, this guy may break other
than Khalil Herbert, you know,

1308
01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:01,200
Jeffrey Orbison junior, he's
been that guy.

1309
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:03,800
But you know, again, that's just
my thoughts, you know?

1310
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:06,360
Yeah, and Dwight, you make some
good points there.

1311
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:09,760
And, and one of the things that
you talked about that stuck with

1312
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:14,120
me is like the guys, even the
transfers, all all these guys,

1313
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:17,720
they haven't won at the Power 4
level.

1314
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:20,720
Like the best guy on the roster
that's played Power 4 football

1315
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:23,560
has seven wins in one season
that that's that's the best

1316
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:28,320
we're talking about.
So you know, these guys are, you

1317
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:31,280
know, they played on Bolt
caliber teams, but they haven't

1318
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:37,040
played the the the type of level
that we want to get to what our

1319
01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:41,120
aspirations are.
And you know, to that point,

1320
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:45,240
they got to come in here and
prove that that they can get it

1321
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:47,440
done and get it done against
those teams.

1322
01:10:47,440 --> 01:10:51,640
And I'm going to shout out Vito,
our buddy Don V, because he's

1323
01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:55,360
been on our pre season panel a
few times.

1324
01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:58,920
And Dwight, since you brought up
being back and things like that,

1325
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:02,040
like one of the things he he he
always talks about, we say, what

1326
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:03,880
are the key games on the on the
schedule?

1327
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:06,200
What games do you watch?
And you know he's going to say

1328
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:08,600
we need to beat the dog shit out
of ODU.

1329
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:11,720
Thank you that first game two
dog shit out of DMI.

1330
01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:15,880
Like that's the things that like
we need to go ahead and you know

1331
01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:18,600
that that needs to not be a game
by the middle of the second

1332
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:21,400
quarter.
Yeah, hey, I'm on.

1333
01:11:21,440 --> 01:11:22,880
I'm on that panel with y'all
too.

1334
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:26,680
I said the same thing like to
me, Clemson and Miami, I never

1335
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:30,440
worry about Tech, even when they
we've been down against the

1336
01:11:30,440 --> 01:11:32,000
teams that are like the
standard.

1337
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:35,600
Because like I said, when the
when Miami came to town last

1338
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:38,120
year, even when we were on the
road a couple years ago when

1339
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:41,520
Felton couldn't hold onto that
football, Virginia Tech's going

1340
01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:43,880
to play those kind of games
tough because kids look at their

1341
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:46,280
name, They know about who's
really good.

1342
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:50,480
To me, when we get back to the
standard, it's when you boat

1343
01:11:50,480 --> 01:11:53,920
race a team that you are better
than not pull away late in the

1344
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:56,480
fourth quarter against an
inferior opponent.

1345
01:11:56,680 --> 01:12:00,600
Because when you can step on
somebody's throat, then you know

1346
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:04,080
that, OK, we got a squad.
To me, it's like, you know,

1347
01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:06,200
basically playing with a sense
of urgency.

1348
01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:09,160
And that includes the coaches.
Tally touched on something him

1349
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:12,480
and I talked about many times in
post game Twitter spaces.

1350
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:17,800
Energy, man, like energy like
too many guys too much talk

1351
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:21,760
about like wings and and and dip
and and French fries and

1352
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:24,840
traveling to the 757.
And then when the lights came

1353
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:28,240
on, I saw coaches running back
and forth almost like their

1354
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:32,240
headset and didn't work.
Guys getting lost in coverage to

1355
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:36,880
me again, I I am anticipating
and I have a level of

1356
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:40,280
anticipation and excitement for
this season because I want to

1357
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:45,080
see if Franklin can bring the
structure in the excitement

1358
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:47,760
regarding like knowing what
you're supposed to do on 3rd and

1359
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:50,440
8th.
Like, you know, we didn't we, we

1360
01:12:50,440 --> 01:12:54,120
were very poor when it came to
ball Hawking in the secondary.

1361
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:58,080
This is a program that was
mentioned for decades as one of

1362
01:12:58,080 --> 01:12:59,760
the top programs for defensive
backs.

1363
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:03,280
Again, I know they're bringing
in talent, but they got to show

1364
01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:07,720
me and guys like me and women as
well that understand you talk

1365
01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:10,040
about achieving, you got to be
winners.

1366
01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:12,720
Like all this talk about talent
and we got death.

1367
01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:14,600
That shit is fun.
I'm excited.

1368
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:16,600
But does the death know how to
win?

1369
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:19,560
Does it, does it, does it not
shoot itself in the foot?

1370
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:23,240
You know when we hold a team on
3rd down, but then there's a

1371
01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:26,080
flag on the play because we've
been holding it secondary?

1372
01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:30,360
Or you got to wait for Wake
Forest from the rocks on the

1373
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:31,760
ropes.
Excuse me, but then you have a

1374
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:34,960
dumb penalty on special teams.
Like think about the games we

1375
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:38,320
gave away last year against
teams like Wake Forest, other

1376
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:43,000
programs because of not
understanding time and football

1377
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:45,680
situations.
So I know I didn't mean to come

1378
01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:48,040
and rain on the parade.
I'm I'm excited too.

1379
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:51,640
Don't let I'm just being real.
Now that's what that's my

1380
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:53,160
questions and things too,
Dwight.

1381
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:55,840
So the one thing that I can say
kind of gives me hope.

1382
01:13:57,400 --> 01:13:58,720
I don't even want to use the
word hope.

1383
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:01,480
The one thing I can look at and
just have some kind of, you

1384
01:14:01,480 --> 01:14:04,960
know, constructive criticism or
some things that we can look

1385
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:09,640
forward to is we'll go.
I hate to bring up old coaches,

1386
01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:12,440
but when you go back to the
Fuente era, right?

1387
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:16,120
So for when they came in, when
they had a.

1388
01:14:17,440 --> 01:14:20,680
We had.
We had a stack, we had AG five

1389
01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:23,800
staff, you know what I'm saying?
Like I think pretty good.

1390
01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:28,440
X&X's and O's coach himself, but
a lot of the people who he had

1391
01:14:28,440 --> 01:14:30,720
on staff was kind of unknown and
that's OK.

1392
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:34,080
It was a couple of good coaches
out of his staff.

1393
01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:36,200
I think Vince Weiss was a pretty
good coach.

1394
01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:39,200
But again, when you didn't, we
ain't got to go into all of it.

1395
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:42,880
When you neglect the state that
you're in and talk shit about

1396
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:44,200
that state, it's not going to
work.

1397
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:46,480
So then you move on to the Pride
era, right?

1398
01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:51,480
So the Pride era, Pride's a
great guy, but the coaches that

1399
01:14:51,480 --> 01:14:55,120
he brought in, who was a
certified winner, when Dwight

1400
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:58,840
talks about the players coming
in and who you know, these guys

1401
01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:00,720
haven't been winners on the
collegiate level.

1402
01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:04,520
Where that happens and where you
make up for that is coaching.

1403
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:08,640
So now when you bring in James
Franklin, what gives me a little

1404
01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:13,560
bit of a promise is James
Franklin's a winner, all right?

1405
01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:17,360
We know that no matter who wants
to talk crap about him, he has

1406
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:19,040
won.
Go look at his record.

1407
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:22,000
You go look at somebody like
Coach Chaos, that's a winning

1408
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:24,360
coach.
Coached in the playoffs last

1409
01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:26,840
year.
You look at Anthony Midget, a

1410
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:29,320
winner.
You go look at Jared Ferguson.

1411
01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:33,000
You go look at Lucy.
These are winners in the

1412
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:36,200
coaching staff.
So I think the problem that we

1413
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:39,120
had is that we didn't have no
winners and that I think pride

1414
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:41,160
can be a winner.
I just don't think he's a

1415
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:43,760
winning head coach.
He was a winning defensive

1416
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:46,760
coordinator.
So that's that's what I'm

1417
01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:50,520
looking at now.
And that's what like I'm excited

1418
01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:53,560
to see, but also a little bit
anxious and nervous about like

1419
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:56,400
all these coaching staff going
to jail together because that's

1420
01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:59,160
a like when I was looking at
everybody was looking at what

1421
01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:02,680
teams players was on.
I was looking at the bottom of

1422
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:05,320
that list and seeing the list of
coaches.

1423
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:07,560
It's like 30 coaches on each
team.

1424
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:13,400
If you got 30 coaches over here
and 30 coaches over here, that

1425
01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:16,760
mean you got 60 coaches or 60
people who help them with this

1426
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:19,560
program.
Somebody got to know how to win.

1427
01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:21,200
You know what I'm saying?
That's.

1428
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:23,480
The way I'm with that's, that's
I'm with you, boss.

1429
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:27,360
So I'm like, that's what I'm,
I'm hopeful for because I'm

1430
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:29,920
like, I hope we ain't just up
here because I feel like we've

1431
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:32,680
been up here country clubbing
for some years and I'm tired of

1432
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:34,000
that.
Like I don't want some.

1433
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:37,080
People to get to the business.
Hey, hey, I want Hey, Dwight,

1434
01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:38,960
first and foremost, man, good to
see you.

1435
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:41,400
Big homie always love talking to
you, man.

1436
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:44,320
You know we have some other
conversations That's crazy.

1437
01:16:44,480 --> 01:16:47,200
We was having that Hubert Davis
conversation other other couple

1438
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:50,240
weeks ago, which is crazy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1439
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:55,800
But but going back to this.
So when I went up, I had I went

1440
01:16:55,800 --> 01:17:00,920
up a week the week prior to
watch the last scrimmage before

1441
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:04,920
the before the spring game.
So I was there that Thursday,

1442
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:07,720
Friday and Saturday so that the
the wide receivers in the

1443
01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:09,920
offense was whooping the
defense's ass.

1444
01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:17,000
And on Saturday the offense,
they had like an angle tackle

1445
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:18,240
drill.
My kid did something a little

1446
01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:20,560
crazy.
But nevertheless, that was the

1447
01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:23,120
last competition.
The offensive won that day

1448
01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:27,280
because the deepest came out and
whooped their ass in that

1449
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:29,560
scrimmage.
But this was kind of going back

1450
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:31,920
to what you're saying about
changing the mentality of

1451
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:35,840
certain things.
So the offense, the offense, the

1452
01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:37,800
offense it got got to play the
defense.

1453
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:41,920
It made a stop and two guys that
got into a fight, right.

1454
01:17:42,480 --> 01:17:46,800
So Franklin turns around, Dwight
sends those two guys to the far

1455
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:50,280
end of the field.
They got to do 250 damn up

1456
01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:51,920
downs.
They said if you want to

1457
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:55,800
fucking, it's a family show.
If you want to fight, you want

1458
01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:59,000
to fucking fight, go over there
and fucking start doing up downs

1459
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:00,800
because that ain't going to win
this football games.

1460
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:03,840
There was a play that the
defenses had had stopped the

1461
01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:06,560
offense, but then they had a
penalty about it.

1462
01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:09,760
He fucking lost it.
He said that selfish kind of

1463
01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:11,760
play is what loses us football
games.

1464
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:14,760
We get a we're all getting ready
to get off the field and then

1465
01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:17,800
the defense makes a play that
calls a personal foul and gives

1466
01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:21,160
the offense 15 yards.
And those are the things man,

1467
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:25,480
that like you were saying, the
dumb plays at the end of the

1468
01:18:25,480 --> 01:18:27,080
game that end up losing your
game.

1469
01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:30,080
That's changing.
OK, that's changing.

1470
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:31,680
So and I've seen that first
hand.

1471
01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:35,200
So when I was watching it, not
know watching it from your eyes,

1472
01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:38,640
because like I said, Drew about
legacy, But the one thing you've

1473
01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:41,200
said for the last three years
and me and you've been talking

1474
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:44,320
is you got to make new memories
and you make new memories by

1475
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:48,680
having the habits of winners and
having a championship mentality

1476
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:51,000
is what Franklin is bringing to
the table.

1477
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:53,440
So you're right until you turn
the set.

1478
01:18:53,440 --> 01:18:56,000
We can be as happy as pigs in
slot right now.

1479
01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:59,160
But until you boat race like two
or three teams that you supposed

1480
01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:03,200
to walk and then go in and and
me, you sit there and smoke a

1481
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:05,040
cigar because I'm going to make
you smoke with me.

1482
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:07,000
And we beat the brakes off of
Maryland.

1483
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:09,440
In Maryland, it really don't
matter.

1484
01:19:09,440 --> 01:19:12,520
Hey, look, I'm with you.
So we'll be at Maryland.

1485
01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:15,760
We talked about in the chat and
I'm going to say this, you know,

1486
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:18,240
I got spoiled and I'm not
talking about back in my day.

1487
01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:22,800
I'm talking about post my day,
Tyrod, those guys and Cam and

1488
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:26,520
macho and those guys, because I
think we talked about this in

1489
01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:28,320
the in the season thing, pre
season thing.

1490
01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:32,880
We always do a boundary is that
one thing about Virginia Tech

1491
01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:34,880
football.
It was, it was a very comforting

1492
01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:39,320
feeling to know that when you
play whoever that was inferior,

1493
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:42,320
even if it was a powerful team,
that you were better.

1494
01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:45,000
You knew even if it was
scoreless in the first quarter,

1495
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:46,920
you knew Tech was going to step
on their throat.

1496
01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:50,680
And you know, one of the things
that we talk about is, but we

1497
01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:53,720
have this guy, this guy, this
guy from all of y'all have

1498
01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:56,240
played and competed in some
capacity in sports, right?

1499
01:19:56,640 --> 01:20:00,360
Part of being dominant in the
championship mentality is

1500
01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:03,640
understanding not only how how
to win and but it's also knowing

1501
01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:05,800
what you're supposed to do on
certain plays.

1502
01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:10,160
And I feel like in the last
handful of years we will show

1503
01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:13,480
flashes, but we still don't
really have an identity.

1504
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:16,680
I'm excited with the prostyle
offense that we're seeing in the

1505
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:19,800
tight ends because how many
times have I tweeted and said,

1506
01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:23,120
not group chat, Please for the
love of God use the tight end.

1507
01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:28,120
Also to me in the prostyle
offense, when you have lineman

1508
01:20:28,480 --> 01:20:32,080
and you have depth and you have
the running backs you do, it

1509
01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:34,680
makes the receivers and
quarterbacks job so much

1510
01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:36,560
friendly.
So it's a very quarterback

1511
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:40,160
friendly offense because it's
not about misdirection,

1512
01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:43,880
basically an attitude and the
identity has to be there.

1513
01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:47,960
And I know it's not sexy and
exciting for fans, but you will

1514
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:51,200
love them wins a lot more than
you will love that spread

1515
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:53,800
offense when you just chucking
the ball down the field.

1516
01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:58,200
So I am excited about that.
I just want to, I just want to I

1517
01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:01,880
just as a fan and an alumni from
a player perspective, I want to

1518
01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:05,400
see a disciplined yet nasty team
like those teams.

1519
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:06,640
I'm not talking about back of
the day.

1520
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:08,240
I'm talking about.
Even.

1521
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:11,560
The Strowman and Edmund guys,
those teams were nasty.

1522
01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:14,280
And what's that?
Common say We were better than

1523
01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:15,680
Maryland.
That coach was ready to fight

1524
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:17,600
Frank.
It's true.

1525
01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:19,120
It's.
Very true.

1526
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:23,240
Yeah, but I mean, no, we but but
again, I don't know if you know

1527
01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:26,440
this Brian and Curtis, but you
know, if you you guys have been

1528
01:21:26,440 --> 01:21:29,800
covering Tech a long time tally,
you've been as well watching it

1529
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:35,120
and being on the the show.
But I I like when people hated

1530
01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:38,720
hated tech.
I like when the opponents hated

1531
01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:41,200
us and the fan because we took
over your stadium.

1532
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:45,400
The fans did and the field on
the field, the players and the

1533
01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:48,320
team took over their trap.
So it was, it was one of those

1534
01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:52,800
things where we were assholes.
We were so physical.

1535
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:54,800
And I know you can't go back and
talk.

1536
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:56,400
I'm not, I'm not trying to make
it back.

1537
01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:59,760
And I'm talking about just the
identity, knowing and having

1538
01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:02,760
comfort that even if I couldn't
make it to the game when I put

1539
01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:05,160
it on at 3:30, we knew what
we're going to do.

1540
01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:07,960
So I'm glad that you, you broke
it down, Chris.

1541
01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:09,600
I ain't going to talk too much
longer.

1542
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:12,720
Curtis and B and Tally.
I just wanted to share my

1543
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:16,800
thoughts because I I, I love the
the feeling we have.

1544
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:21,000
I talked to Anthony and Midget
and I talked to him and JF

1545
01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:24,320
Ferguson at unfortunate
situation, Ronnie Whitaker's

1546
01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:29,280
funeral, and I asked about some
guys, Peanut linebacker Lauren

1547
01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:33,120
Johnson's son, Sheldon Robinson,
a kid I've known since he was 8

1548
01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:35,840
years old.
Say Big Sheldo, Big Sheldo

1549
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:39,400
Sheldo's my guy, very good.
And some other guys on this

1550
01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:40,600
team.
So there's talent.

1551
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:43,360
I'm just curious to see how it's
going to come out so.

1552
01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:45,760
And then listen, you, you, you
talk.

1553
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:49,160
You talk this, man.
But you know, I I can see a

1554
01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:50,680
whole bunch of folks show up,
man.

1555
01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:53,440
But I need you back in the
building, big dawg.

1556
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:57,280
I need, I need you to come down
and and bless us with your

1557
01:22:57,280 --> 01:22:58,880
presence, man.
I know you're busy.

1558
01:22:58,880 --> 01:22:59,320
I know.
Yeah.

1559
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:03,160
No, no, hold on, hold on, man.
I'm no, no, no, no, no.

1560
01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:06,600
I'm busy.
But I will, I look, I, I, I had

1561
01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:09,480
let me tell y'all something and
I know y'all got a lot of people

1562
01:23:09,480 --> 01:23:13,720
watching so I don't care.
Who is this when you talk about?

1563
01:23:13,720 --> 01:23:16,160
And again, this ain't about me.
This is y'all show, but y'all

1564
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:19,960
are my brothers.
I, I have done so much.

1565
01:23:20,040 --> 01:23:22,760
I'm talking about post career.
I've done so much for this

1566
01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:25,400
program.
From speaking at the memorial

1567
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:29,840
service on 9/11, I mean, for the
Yeah 911 honour those people

1568
01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:33,200
that were brutally murdered at
Virginia Tech, to writing a

1569
01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:38,280
column for Rivals in 247, from
doing a 2013 spring game

1570
01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:42,440
broadcast on ESPNI.
You know, my own podcast

1571
01:23:42,440 --> 01:23:46,320
interview some of the greats
when Virginia Tech fell to what

1572
01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:48,480
we were before Franklin got
here.

1573
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:51,880
It does something to me where
it's unexplainable.

1574
01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:56,880
It it ruptures my soul.
So I cannot, I'm not avoiding

1575
01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:59,280
anything.
I just can't be around it Now

1576
01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:01,680
Franklin and the guys there now
I'm willing.

1577
01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:06,160
It's it's a new regime, but I
could not walk into that stadium

1578
01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:11,240
and sit there and watch them
play with their food and

1579
01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:14,760
dismantle something that me and
my brothers work so hard to

1580
01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:17,320
build.
Like anybody that's watching or

1581
01:24:17,320 --> 01:24:20,320
anybody, I don't care if you do
softball, baseball, if you

1582
01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:23,560
parted something special, if you
in the fraternity or sorority or

1583
01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:27,480
you help lay down bricks and
built your house and you see

1584
01:24:27,480 --> 01:24:30,440
when someone comes in your house
and they pissing on your toilet

1585
01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:32,480
and they messing with your
remote.

1586
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:34,680
Right.
I don't want to.

1587
01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:37,680
I don't want, you know, I'm old
now, but I will still confront

1588
01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:39,680
you.
So I had to kind of take care

1589
01:24:39,680 --> 01:24:42,480
back.
So can we so, so can you get so

1590
01:24:42,480 --> 01:24:45,600
when we, when we, when we
because see VMI is like a

1591
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:48,520
glorified scrimmage.
I, I, we all can.

1592
01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:50,240
Can we agree that that's kind of
like?

1593
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:53,000
A Well, no, no, no, no.
We want to feel like a

1594
01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:57,440
glorified.
OK, so smoke once we smoke BMI

1595
01:24:58,480 --> 01:25:03,120
throat punch ODU, come to
Maryland and smoke Maryland can

1596
01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:06,680
can we get here?
But for the whole fan base, can

1597
01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:09,640
we get you in the building on A
and and they go to Boston

1598
01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:11,440
College and win.
Can we get you in the building

1599
01:25:11,440 --> 01:25:14,880
on a Friday night against hit?
Can I get you there?

1600
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:16,600
Can I get that from you?
If my if.

1601
01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:21,600
If when I when I watch it and
the online is able to pick up TE

1602
01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:24,720
stunts and we're picking up
blitzes, even if the receiver

1603
01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:27,440
drops the ball.
If I see my old line picking up

1604
01:25:27,440 --> 01:25:31,200
and showing some competency and
understands the Downing distance

1605
01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:34,720
is third and seven, it's going
to be a sight of just make the

1606
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:38,080
quarterback makes the throw.
If I see those things that these

1607
01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:40,400
guys are supposed to be knowing
how to do, I'm going to

1608
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:42,800
definitely show up.
You guys understand until until

1609
01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:47,200
until until two years ago.
Let me tell y'all something,

1610
01:25:47,480 --> 01:25:50,920
even when I got waved in the
league before 2 years ago, I had

1611
01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:53,200
made seventeen straight spring
games.

1612
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:57,320
I never missed a spring game.
I was, I went to home, I went to

1613
01:25:57,320 --> 01:26:00,080
Rd. games when Jimmy Williams
and those guys were playing.

1614
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:03,000
So I was, I was like carving out
time.

1615
01:26:03,480 --> 01:26:06,120
I, I still remember staying up
till 4:00 in the morning when

1616
01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:11,040
Matt Ryan broke my heart.
You know what I'm saying?

1617
01:26:11,240 --> 01:26:15,000
Like you know what I'm saying?
So like, yeah, Chris, I'm going

1618
01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:19,240
to show up.
Hey man, I know, I know, I know,

1619
01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:23,200
you ain't got another team.
I know this is your only team.

1620
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:25,560
You don't root for nobody else
but the Hokies.

1621
01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:26,880
But when?
When we.

1622
01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:30,440
But when we do that, I just need
to be able to get a picture with

1623
01:26:30,440 --> 01:26:35,200
my big homie, even building that
pit when we come in on a Friday

1624
01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:35,720
night.
That's all.

1625
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:38,400
Well, first of all, first of
all, not first of all, but

1626
01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:39,800
probably fifth of all, I've been
talking.

1627
01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:43,400
Nobody jumps, nobody jumps off.
But look, hey, look, first of

1628
01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:47,960
all, one good thing that you
know, I'm a very philosophical

1629
01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:50,960
and spiritual person.
One blessing out of all this win

1630
01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:54,320
or lose, is I got it tight with
you, Chris, and tight with

1631
01:26:54,320 --> 01:26:59,400
Curtis BI call him B Brian and
Tally Y'all my y'all, my

1632
01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:01,480
brothers.
So like we got our chat, but I

1633
01:27:01,480 --> 01:27:04,120
promote everything y'all do and
I met some other good people.

1634
01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:08,520
I just want to, I want, I want
the vibes to be, you know, when

1635
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:11,840
you win, when you win,
everything feels better, bro.

1636
01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:14,520
Like I don't care.
I don't care if it tastes

1637
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:17,040
better.
And when you win, when you win

1638
01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:18,840
everything.
Look, y'all don't understand

1639
01:27:18,840 --> 01:27:20,960
dog.
When we used to beat Miami and

1640
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:23,040
we were winning the left, I used
to walk around Northern

1641
01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:25,880
Virginia.
I got I was like Frank Lucas.

1642
01:27:26,440 --> 01:27:29,440
You.
Was lucky out there, right?

1643
01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:33,040
You know what I'm saying?
My man.

1644
01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:38,280
American gangster when he
walking and his brothers behind

1645
01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:39,200
him.
Right, right.

1646
01:27:39,480 --> 01:27:41,800
Down the sidewalk.
That's how I was walking when

1647
01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:43,800
black, when we were winning in
Blacksburg.

1648
01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:44,960
But.
Yeah.

1649
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:47,680
But but I know Curtis, you got
his shoulder run.

1650
01:27:47,960 --> 01:27:49,240
I'm a jump ball.
I just want.

1651
01:27:50,480 --> 01:27:53,560
To I just?
Want to get.

1652
01:27:53,560 --> 01:27:56,800
I want to get that out in the
atmosphere because that's what I

1653
01:27:56,800 --> 01:28:01,280
want because of all the things.
That you've talked.

1654
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:03,360
I.
Want to get the white back to

1655
01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:06,320
black?
That I can get the big, the big

1656
01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:10,600
homie the the the godfather of
Blacksburg that brought all the

1657
01:28:10,600 --> 01:28:12,840
talent.
So, you know, as people try to

1658
01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:16,160
call me, I'm the godfather of
someplace, you're the godfather

1659
01:28:16,160 --> 01:28:18,480
of Blacksburg.
And we got to get you back in

1660
01:28:18,480 --> 01:28:20,560
the building, though I.
Want you know what, man?

1661
01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:21,400
For real?
I y'all.

1662
01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:24,360
And you know what I can say is
now everybody know I recruited

1663
01:28:24,360 --> 01:28:27,520
Mike and Marcus Detect.
Yeah, yeah, but I, I, I I Greg

1664
01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:33,880
Stroman, Tim Settle, Lee Suggs,
Like what I I, you know, like I

1665
01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:37,760
joke Bima every time I see Frank
Bean, I say, yo, where my statue

1666
01:28:37,760 --> 01:28:43,280
at?
I'm like, no, I said what my I

1667
01:28:43,320 --> 01:28:46,000
said what my statue at, man.
You know what I'm saying?

1668
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:48,360
Like I carried the flag for a
long time, man.

1669
01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:52,280
But yeah, bro, like, hey, but I
will say this man, I don't

1670
01:28:52,280 --> 01:28:55,640
follow the recruit as much as I
used to, but I will say the

1671
01:28:55,640 --> 01:28:58,400
talent, it feels good.
I saw somebody trolling that

1672
01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:01,120
might have been Joe Rogers.
Somebody was trolling saying it

1673
01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:05,000
feels good to be competing
against Big 10 in SCC schools

1674
01:29:05,000 --> 01:29:06,640
and no longer Toledo and Akron
I.

1675
01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:10,360
Saw that earlier today.
That's true.

1676
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:15,160
Brian, look at put up, put up
Uncle Joey's comment.

1677
01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:17,760
He says no championship.
Put that up right quick.

1678
01:29:19,720 --> 01:29:21,920
So Uncle Joey, thank you for
showing, man.

1679
01:29:22,280 --> 01:29:27,200
No publicity is bad publicity.
It is a Tuesday night at either

1680
01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:29,160
night and it is 11.
O'clock 11.

1681
01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:33,400
O'clock my wife, look at me
watching, but you watching the

1682
01:29:33,400 --> 01:29:36,560
Virginia Tech show with no
championships and y'all still

1683
01:29:36,560 --> 01:29:39,640
ain't got no ACC championships?
Get the fuck out of here man.

1684
01:29:41,480 --> 01:29:42,480
National Championship.
Game.

1685
01:29:42,920 --> 01:29:47,280
Was that one of the 2007 people
at their bullshit spring game

1686
01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:51,200
who commented that just.
Here to a Virginia Tech show,

1687
01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:53,280
talk about some no championship.
We don't.

1688
01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:54,680
We know it ain't no
championships.

1689
01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:57,320
Y'all ain't got no ACC
championships and you didn't get

1690
01:29:57,320 --> 01:29:59,120
no championship last year, so
hey.

1691
01:29:59,320 --> 01:30:00,920
Man, I just they were.
Showing up.

1692
01:30:01,240 --> 01:30:03,560
And then whenever Miami fans
come and say something like

1693
01:30:03,560 --> 01:30:06,400
that, I just always ask them,
clean up all that red and white

1694
01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:09,960
damn confetti that Indiana threw
in your shit and and stumped

1695
01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:13,680
your fucking couch out on
national on national TV.

1696
01:30:14,040 --> 01:30:17,040
Well, they was talking so much
trash about how they were going

1697
01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:20,440
to boat race that team and I
told them that they coached so

1698
01:30:20,440 --> 01:30:22,680
clean up.
That goddamn confetti will be

1699
01:30:22,680 --> 01:30:24,880
down there in November.
Hey, your ass in the.

1700
01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:29,480
Building but look, look, look
real quick that right there and

1701
01:30:29,480 --> 01:30:31,280
what Tally did Curtis with
Curtis?

1702
01:30:31,440 --> 01:30:35,360
I mean, what Chris just said and
what Tally just did, that's what

1703
01:30:35,360 --> 01:30:37,720
I want the players to do.
I know I'm the OG.

1704
01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:40,920
I'm the, I'm just telling you,
like if there was one game in my

1705
01:30:40,920 --> 01:30:45,320
5 years and even as a alumni
when we played Miami, it was so

1706
01:30:45,320 --> 01:30:47,160
personal.
The reason why it became a

1707
01:30:47,160 --> 01:30:49,680
rivalry because we were a thorn
in their side.

1708
01:30:49,680 --> 01:30:52,200
I give them credit, they got it,
they got the chips.

1709
01:30:52,200 --> 01:30:53,960
But that's a historical
perspective.

1710
01:30:54,280 --> 01:30:57,040
That's the history lesson.
Because like, you know, at the

1711
01:30:57,040 --> 01:31:00,520
end of the day, you know, I
just, you ain't won the ACC.

1712
01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:04,080
And to me, last time I won it, I
want to start, I want to start

1713
01:31:04,080 --> 01:31:05,720
beating them again when the
last.

1714
01:31:05,840 --> 01:31:10,280
Time Miami When the last time
Miami won a championship. 2000.

1715
01:31:11,120 --> 01:31:14,440
Bro, if I was still in high
school when y'all won a

1716
01:31:14,440 --> 01:31:15,960
championship, man, I'm 40 years
old.

1717
01:31:15,960 --> 01:31:17,640
You're in the same position with
you.

1718
01:31:18,160 --> 01:31:19,840
You ain't saying shit.
You're like, we ain't saying

1719
01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:24,400
shit and.
And, and we got an opportunity

1720
01:31:24,520 --> 01:31:29,720
to fuck up their their shit this
year because they think they're

1721
01:31:29,720 --> 01:31:32,200
running the ACC this year.
Shoot.

1722
01:31:32,720 --> 01:31:34,800
They said my.
Dummy.

1723
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:37,480
OK, OK, bro.
No, no problem.

1724
01:31:38,440 --> 01:31:39,600
No.
Problem man, you still.

1725
01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:40,720
Lost.
It Don't matter if you was

1726
01:31:40,720 --> 01:31:44,480
underdog, overdog behind the
dog, dog in style, you lost.

1727
01:31:50,240 --> 01:31:52,920
Dog in style you lost yo-yo man
hey the ball telling me to get

1728
01:31:52,920 --> 01:31:55,000
off the phone man.
Good talking to y'all brothers.

1729
01:31:55,000 --> 01:31:56,920
Man, I'll talk to.
Y'all too man.

1730
01:31:58,160 --> 01:31:59,920
Hey, I see y'all man, y'all stay
up.

1731
01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:02,520
Appreciate you later, Dwight.
Later, Dwight.

1732
01:32:02,520 --> 01:32:05,920
Later, Chris.
Phil Phil full of that was.

1733
01:32:07,800 --> 01:32:10,320
Awesome, Phil Phil, am I looking
at wings and nachos?

1734
01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:13,920
Can't hear anything.
That's the most high plate I've

1735
01:32:13,960 --> 01:32:20,920
ever seen.
Chips, celery and wings.

1736
01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:23,720
Like what's going on, Phil?
It's.

1737
01:32:23,720 --> 01:32:27,760
Wings, man.
Phil, can you hear us, Phil?

1738
01:32:29,000 --> 01:32:31,080
He can't hear nothing.
I don't think he hears shit.

1739
01:32:31,400 --> 01:32:34,400
No, he can't look at Brian.
HILL Hey, hey.

1740
01:32:35,040 --> 01:32:39,240
My cat going at it.
Hey, you, Phil.

1741
01:32:40,400 --> 01:32:45,920
Phil.
While we work on getting Phil.

1742
01:32:46,040 --> 01:32:49,000
All right, so we had Dwight on,
we had Chris on.

1743
01:32:49,480 --> 01:32:57,160
That was some good discussion.
Hey, you know, hey, that's

1744
01:32:57,160 --> 01:33:00,960
because y'all ain't won one.
We can say who cares about a

1745
01:33:00,960 --> 01:33:02,800
championship if we want to say
it.

1746
01:33:02,800 --> 01:33:07,000
I mean, you care about winning,
so you ain't wanted care.

1747
01:33:07,520 --> 01:33:11,040
But it's the funny point you
made there for a second.

1748
01:33:12,200 --> 01:33:13,680
Hold on.
We're going to kick this one

1749
01:33:13,680 --> 01:33:15,320
off.
I'm going to put this one on.

1750
01:33:15,800 --> 01:33:17,600
Shout out to all my Miami fans
out there.

1751
01:33:17,600 --> 01:33:20,240
Can you hear us now, Phil?
Yo, can you hear me?

1752
01:33:20,480 --> 01:33:22,560
We can kill you now.
Let's see you there.

1753
01:33:23,000 --> 01:33:25,720
Let's go, let's go.
Was that sweet to be in the

1754
01:33:25,720 --> 01:33:27,840
middle of that right there?
That was pretty sweet.

1755
01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:30,960
I, I, I didn't get my chance to
say when he said the freaking

1756
01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:33,920
when he said Eddie Lucas, I was
like my man, like that's the

1757
01:33:33,920 --> 01:33:34,480
that.
That's.

1758
01:33:35,720 --> 01:33:38,440
In that movie, and I was like,
that was it Dwight's a man?

1759
01:33:38,440 --> 01:33:40,040
Because I was exactly what I was
going to say.

1760
01:33:40,040 --> 01:33:42,680
Like, man, there's a shit load
of people drinking some orange

1761
01:33:42,680 --> 01:33:44,480
can maroon.
That sounds gross.

1762
01:33:44,480 --> 01:33:48,440
Kool-aid and like, I, I, dude,
I, I know we Got Talent.

1763
01:33:48,440 --> 01:33:51,400
I'm, I'm not going to drink it.
I refuse to drink the kool-aid

1764
01:33:51,680 --> 01:33:55,840
until we beat the shit like you
said, out of VMI.

1765
01:33:56,160 --> 01:33:59,520
Like we got to beat VMI.
We got to beat Old Dominion

1766
01:33:59,560 --> 01:34:03,720
convincingly.
Like I don't give a shit about I

1767
01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:06,000
don't know, man.
And I'm also disappointed in

1768
01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:09,000
Brian for not coming up with a
better name for the show this

1769
01:34:09,000 --> 01:34:10,680
week.
Not related to the parachute guy

1770
01:34:10,680 --> 01:34:13,720
hanging from the scoreboard.
Like like, like hanging with the

1771
01:34:13,720 --> 01:34:14,800
crew or something.
Like.

1772
01:34:14,960 --> 01:34:19,320
That.
Like come on, man.

1773
01:34:19,680 --> 01:34:23,480
Like I don't that's OK, I don't.
I'm not bad but but but my real

1774
01:34:23,480 --> 01:34:28,040
question.
Early in my my I was glitching a

1775
01:34:28,040 --> 01:34:30,560
little bit when people was
talking about the the parachute

1776
01:34:30,600 --> 01:34:34,800
or I was seeing and they were
saying, oh, that's a bad old

1777
01:34:34,800 --> 01:34:37,880
man.
I'm like, no, it ain't a bad, it

1778
01:34:37,880 --> 01:34:39,920
ain't a bad omen because he
almost died.

1779
01:34:39,920 --> 01:34:41,800
Like it ain't trying to be
funny.

1780
01:34:41,880 --> 01:34:45,200
But like if he if the scoreboard
didn't stop him, it may have

1781
01:34:45,200 --> 01:34:47,600
been worse.
If he lands on top of somebody,

1782
01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:50,120
then what happens?
Like if he's walking around, Hey

1783
01:34:50,120 --> 01:34:52,560
man, that's just the Virginia
Tech way.

1784
01:34:52,560 --> 01:34:56,600
It don't go out.
Sometimes it comes out OK, so I

1785
01:34:56,640 --> 01:34:58,440
don't look at it as a bad omen,
but go ahead.

1786
01:34:58,440 --> 01:34:59,920
Well.
No, that's a good omen.

1787
01:34:59,920 --> 01:35:02,120
I heard too that we actually
going to get an insurance

1788
01:35:02,120 --> 01:35:04,080
payment on that.
Curtis might be able to chime in

1789
01:35:04,080 --> 01:35:07,920
on that, that, that basically
like we get the insurance to fix

1790
01:35:07,920 --> 01:35:11,240
the scoreboard that we're then
going to tear down and replace.

1791
01:35:11,240 --> 01:35:12,760
So we make some money out of it
too.

1792
01:35:12,760 --> 01:35:16,600
I think we I think we're going
to sign a backups long snapper

1793
01:35:16,600 --> 01:35:20,000
with that money.
Hey, so, so basically we're the

1794
01:35:20,080 --> 01:35:22,880
the demo is going to be free
because whenever the insurance.

1795
01:35:22,880 --> 01:35:24,880
Claim is.
I do have a question though.

1796
01:35:24,880 --> 01:35:26,760
Corner look, look, everything
he's great.

1797
01:35:26,760 --> 01:35:28,680
Everything's amazing.
We're going to be so good.

1798
01:35:28,680 --> 01:35:31,920
Unstoppable, like 6 O here we
go.

1799
01:35:32,240 --> 01:35:36,320
But like what happens one if
Brooke Meyer gets hurt, OK,

1800
01:35:36,640 --> 01:35:38,160
because there ain't shit behind
him.

1801
01:35:38,640 --> 01:35:41,920
Shit, there ain't shit.
And I hope we have an offensive

1802
01:35:41,920 --> 01:35:44,200
line that can protect the
passing quarterback that we who

1803
01:35:44,200 --> 01:35:47,720
was the last passing quarterback
Virginia Tech has had.

1804
01:35:49,000 --> 01:35:52,080
I was I was hoping shit, I was
going to say drunken Miller.

1805
01:35:52,640 --> 01:35:54,520
Like, yeah, I guess Glennon
maybe.

1806
01:35:54,760 --> 01:35:59,120
Yeah, Glennon, so.
But but hold on, let me block.

1807
01:35:59,120 --> 01:36:01,200
For him.
But but grunt Meyer is not a

1808
01:36:01,200 --> 01:36:03,800
statue, though Brian made the
point on that.

1809
01:36:04,040 --> 01:36:06,760
I can't if you did it here a
couple hours ago or just some

1810
01:36:06,760 --> 01:36:11,560
casual conversation like he's
not a complete statue like he

1811
01:36:11,560 --> 01:36:14,200
has wiggle.
He has ways where we were

1812
01:36:14,200 --> 01:36:16,440
talking like.
If you run Wells, can he move

1813
01:36:16,440 --> 01:36:18,560
like Grant Wells?
He moves better than Grant

1814
01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:19,680
Wells.
From what?

1815
01:36:19,880 --> 01:36:22,320
I'm running Grant Wells on
options dude.

1816
01:36:22,320 --> 01:36:23,960
There's no way he can move
better.

1817
01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:25,360
I was on options.
Because they were running a

1818
01:36:25,440 --> 01:36:27,720
Smash Mouth spread and you
didn't have a fucking option

1819
01:36:27,720 --> 01:36:30,760
unless you, you know, wanted to
take that element of your

1820
01:36:30,760 --> 01:36:32,200
offense completely off the
table.

1821
01:36:32,840 --> 01:36:38,160
Yeah, which was stupid at that
point in time, but I.

1822
01:36:38,160 --> 01:36:39,640
Can't hear Brian.
That's weird.

1823
01:36:39,960 --> 01:36:42,240
You can't hear Brian.
No, just you were running a

1824
01:36:42,240 --> 01:36:43,760
Smash Mouth.
Spread.

1825
01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:45,960
Yeah, and.
Was like, can you hear me?

1826
01:36:46,400 --> 01:36:47,600
Yeah, you great.
Yeah.

1827
01:36:47,720 --> 01:36:49,040
Basically, we were running
Smash.

1828
01:36:49,080 --> 01:36:51,280
Mouth.
Spread and you.

1829
01:36:51,280 --> 01:36:52,680
Had to do.
You had to run Grant.

1830
01:36:52,680 --> 01:36:55,880
Wells just to keep them honest,
but it was that discussion.

1831
01:36:55,880 --> 01:36:58,160
I asked Brian like basically, I
said Brian.

1832
01:36:58,160 --> 01:37:01,480
They run cover once in five.
If Grunt Meyer, if the guy

1833
01:37:01,480 --> 01:37:03,200
doesn't hit Grunt Meyer, what
what happens?

1834
01:37:03,200 --> 01:37:07,080
He's like he gets 10 yards first
down he's got he showed it.

1835
01:37:07,600 --> 01:37:09,960
He showed it in the spring.
That's not a solid quarterback.

1836
01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:11,080
That typically works.
For us.

1837
01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:14,320
Like we were screaming for.
Kyron drones.

1838
01:37:14,320 --> 01:37:16,200
We were screaming for Tyrod.
We were.

1839
01:37:16,200 --> 01:37:19,080
Screaming for these mobile.
Quarterbacks, I hope all these

1840
01:37:19,080 --> 01:37:22,120
tech fans are going to be OK
with a guy who is not.

1841
01:37:22,120 --> 01:37:25,800
I don't know that that's a big
change to go from what we've

1842
01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:30,080
always been, in my opinion, to
help out the running game to now

1843
01:37:30,080 --> 01:37:32,920
we're going to be a pro set.
And man, I hear prostyle system

1844
01:37:32,920 --> 01:37:34,480
and I'm like, holy shit, that's
not good.

1845
01:37:34,840 --> 01:37:37,000
Because that's what they brought
to South Carolina last year and

1846
01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:39,680
that was a pile of shit.
Yeah, we need to win field.

1847
01:37:39,960 --> 01:37:42,720
So 100% and what we've been
doing ain't working.

1848
01:37:42,720 --> 01:37:43,680
Then maybe.
We need to train.

1849
01:37:44,240 --> 01:37:45,960
Yeah, well, that's.
What I exactly?

1850
01:37:45,960 --> 01:37:48,760
No, I'm with you.
So I hope I, I hope it all comes

1851
01:37:48,760 --> 01:37:50,800
to fruition on the.
Field because it it sounds

1852
01:37:50,920 --> 01:37:53,760
really pretty right now like
Franklin is winning.

1853
01:37:53,920 --> 01:37:57,880
He's winning the the the
presentation contest for sure.

1854
01:37:58,480 --> 01:38:02,240
So it's true.
I'm I'm, I'm like Dwight, and I

1855
01:38:02,240 --> 01:38:04,080
hope that I don't get my opium
up.

1856
01:38:04,480 --> 01:38:08,080
By August.
But I'm like so many of us now,

1857
01:38:08,080 --> 01:38:12,840
it's like we want to see it.
We want to see crushing teams

1858
01:38:12,840 --> 01:38:16,560
you should crush going to
somebody's house, take their

1859
01:38:16,560 --> 01:38:19,000
turf, take their lunch money in
Maryland.

1860
01:38:20,840 --> 01:38:22,720
That's a big game for
recruiting, too.

1861
01:38:22,760 --> 01:38:25,480
You know he's going to have a
can you have recruits?

1862
01:38:25,480 --> 01:38:26,720
On the road.
How does that work?

1863
01:38:27,280 --> 01:38:28,800
I don't know how I'm sure.
You can.

1864
01:38:29,560 --> 01:38:31,440
Hell, be smart.
Really piss off.

1865
01:38:31,440 --> 01:38:33,360
Let Mike.
Loxley really want to punch

1866
01:38:33,360 --> 01:38:37,640
James Franklin, Like, hey guys,
go visit there, but come to our

1867
01:38:37,640 --> 01:38:41,040
sideline or maybe show Marilyn
what they didn't, what they

1868
01:38:41,040 --> 01:38:44,640
missed out on.
Exactly, exactly.

1869
01:38:44,800 --> 01:38:47,880
So it'll be, yeah.
It's like don't.

1870
01:38:47,880 --> 01:38:50,840
Get the hope up.
But I think what we've discussed

1871
01:38:50,840 --> 01:38:54,280
here, what we're seeing all
along is what we're seeing right

1872
01:38:54,280 --> 01:39:01,000
now is just in general, just in
general, the floor of the talent

1873
01:39:01,000 --> 01:39:04,840
level has raised, the floor of
the coaching level has been

1874
01:39:04,840 --> 01:39:10,520
raised and like, and now it's
what are they going to do on the

1875
01:39:10,520 --> 01:39:11,640
field?
What are they going to do when

1876
01:39:11,640 --> 01:39:14,000
the other team will actually try
to get you and try to rip your

1877
01:39:14,000 --> 01:39:16,600
fucking head off?
What do you do?

1878
01:39:17,240 --> 01:39:20,920
And that's going to be what is
it going to be?

1879
01:39:21,080 --> 01:39:25,640
What's the exact, what's the
official first date this year of

1880
01:39:26,800 --> 01:39:28,960
September?
How many, how, how, how was our

1881
01:39:28,960 --> 01:39:30,600
time out usage in the spring
game?

1882
01:39:30,600 --> 01:39:33,400
Do we?
Do we call you dumb ass time

1883
01:39:33,400 --> 01:39:36,920
outs for no reason by chance or
leave any in the pocket?

1884
01:39:36,960 --> 01:39:41,280
I'm just wondering that's my
that's my question so I don't I

1885
01:39:41,280 --> 01:39:43,680
just we will.
We will start finding out.

1886
01:39:43,680 --> 01:39:46,480
Everything.
September 5th.

1887
01:39:46,480 --> 01:39:49,680
And that's.
When you know it's it's either

1888
01:39:49,800 --> 01:39:53,320
sunshines and rainbows are not
again.

1889
01:39:53,440 --> 01:39:56,360
Well, I'll tell you right now,
like the rest of the sports that

1890
01:39:56,360 --> 01:39:58,080
are coming wrong with tech right
now, I don't think.

1891
01:39:58,080 --> 01:39:59,920
Anybody should get too excited
about what's going to happen at

1892
01:39:59,920 --> 01:40:01,840
the end of the year of a
softball or definitely not

1893
01:40:01,840 --> 01:40:03,880
baseball.
A baseball 1 today they beat VCU

1894
01:40:03,880 --> 01:40:04,960
at the diamond.
That was awesome.

1895
01:40:06,400 --> 01:40:07,960
Ten 1:00 game.
Damn.

1896
01:40:07,960 --> 01:40:10,560
And no lights at the diamond.
They're moved across the street,

1897
01:40:11,200 --> 01:40:14,760
but.
Man, I dude, if football starts

1898
01:40:14,760 --> 01:40:19,880
like if we went if we beat VMI
like 24 to 7 and then beat Old

1899
01:40:19,880 --> 01:40:24,640
Dominion like 24 to 14 or
something, man that those those

1900
01:40:24,640 --> 01:40:26,920
happy go lucky James Franklin
press conference is going to

1901
01:40:26,920 --> 01:40:29,120
change real quick.
Hey, I can't even I can't even

1902
01:40:29,160 --> 01:40:31,560
put the word ODU and beat in the
same sentence.

1903
01:40:32,280 --> 01:40:33,240
I've never.
Had beat myself.

1904
01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:37,680
No thank God we dropped JMU shit
good Lord.

1905
01:40:38,200 --> 01:40:39,240
So I can't.
I just.

1906
01:40:39,240 --> 01:40:42,160
Got to see, hey, I just we got a
long time for the season to get

1907
01:40:42,160 --> 01:40:43,680
here, but not.
Really a long time.

1908
01:40:44,080 --> 01:40:46,040
So it's going to be a lot that's
got to transpire.

1909
01:40:46,040 --> 01:40:47,440
I need to see some people get
healthy.

1910
01:40:47,760 --> 01:40:50,080
I need to see what our offensive
line looks like.

1911
01:40:50,360 --> 01:40:52,760
And like you said, the happy go
lucky stuff, that's great.

1912
01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:57,120
But we got to have some
production on that field, some

1913
01:40:57,120 --> 01:41:00,520
production out of the coaching
staff before me, myself, I'm

1914
01:41:00,520 --> 01:41:03,400
going to get excited.
One of the things I want to see

1915
01:41:03,800 --> 01:41:06,680
is let's go makes me drink beers
he really can't hear.

1916
01:41:06,760 --> 01:41:08,120
You.
He really can't hear me, Kenny.

1917
01:41:08,120 --> 01:41:09,400
He really can't hear.
You.

1918
01:41:09,400 --> 01:41:10,720
I can't hear you for some
reason.

1919
01:41:10,720 --> 01:41:12,080
That's so great.
I I.

1920
01:41:12,080 --> 01:41:13,360
Agree with everything you're
saying.

1921
01:41:13,360 --> 01:41:17,520
Though 100%. 100% I mean because
they don't got no picture up

1922
01:41:17,520 --> 01:41:18,560
there.
That's what the problem is.

1923
01:41:19,040 --> 01:41:21,200
So wait, so tally if you want to
come up to any.

1924
01:41:21,200 --> 01:41:23,520
Game you let me go that that
Lexington place.

1925
01:41:23,520 --> 01:41:26,200
Going to be a hell of a lot.
Cheaper than $2000 20 yards from

1926
01:41:26,200 --> 01:41:27,360
the stadium, that's for damn
sure.

1927
01:41:27,360 --> 01:41:30,320
You can pay a pay a high school
kid to drive you up there man.

1928
01:41:30,320 --> 01:41:32,040
There we go.
Great.

1929
01:41:32,600 --> 01:41:34,760
It'd be great.
I mean just pay like 200.

1930
01:41:34,760 --> 01:41:36,720
Dollars each way.
Damn, you saved your money.

1931
01:41:37,160 --> 01:41:39,880
That.
Is for real so Curtis one of the

1932
01:41:39,880 --> 01:41:41,960
things I want to see rent that
place during the tech.

1933
01:41:41,960 --> 01:41:44,000
Camp, I hope we get going where
you got to start renting.

1934
01:41:44,000 --> 01:41:45,400
Lexington Houses, that's that
would be.

1935
01:41:45,400 --> 01:41:47,760
Sweetest that's that's that's
what we need to get to.

1936
01:41:48,240 --> 01:41:50,280
Alright, Brian, you got one more
thing before we close it out.

1937
01:41:50,680 --> 01:41:52,240
Yeah.
So like Dwight's talked about a

1938
01:41:52,240 --> 01:41:54,040
little bit, Phil talked.
About a little bit tally.

1939
01:41:54,040 --> 01:41:58,560
You've hit on it a lot.
I think the thing that we need

1940
01:41:58,560 --> 01:42:02,440
to see when the when fall rolls
around, one of the things the

1941
01:42:02,440 --> 01:42:09,480
the hallmarks of the pry regime
was that when the the energy on

1942
01:42:09,480 --> 01:42:13,240
the sideline always match the.
Flow of the game, it's.

1943
01:42:13,240 --> 01:42:15,680
True.
So when when we were looking at

1944
01:42:15,680 --> 01:42:18,720
the flow of the game.
If we jumped out.

1945
01:42:18,720 --> 01:42:21,520
Early it was, it was all happy,
all go lucky.

1946
01:42:21,520 --> 01:42:24,240
They fed off that energy.
If things were tight or we

1947
01:42:24,240 --> 01:42:27,160
dropped down early there was
this tightness.

1948
01:42:27,200 --> 01:42:29,360
You could feel the tightness on
the sideline.

1949
01:42:29,360 --> 01:42:32,600
The air came out.
The booty hole was like this on

1950
01:42:32,600 --> 01:42:34,120
the sideline.
It was clinched.

1951
01:42:34,240 --> 01:42:37,000
It was, it was tight.
It won't let nothing in or out

1952
01:42:37,600 --> 01:42:41,200
and and and that became a
hallmark of the Pryor regime

1953
01:42:41,200 --> 01:42:47,120
because that they weren't that
even keel or always bringing

1954
01:42:47,120 --> 01:42:50,040
their own juice on the sideline.
It always was very game flow

1955
01:42:50,040 --> 01:42:51,720
dependent.
So we got to get to a point

1956
01:42:51,720 --> 01:42:54,000
where from the staff and it's
going to trickle down to the

1957
01:42:54,000 --> 01:42:57,920
players that you know, one thing
goes wrong.

1958
01:42:58,000 --> 01:43:00,400
Don't let it snowball.
Bring your own.

1959
01:43:00,400 --> 01:43:03,080
Juice make sure that the.
Sideline is ready hype in the

1960
01:43:03,080 --> 01:43:05,920
game, ready to do the things
they need to do regardless of

1961
01:43:05,920 --> 01:43:09,360
what's happening on the field.
Because if you do, if you're, if

1962
01:43:09,360 --> 01:43:12,720
you're dependent on what the
game is doing, you're playing

1963
01:43:12,720 --> 01:43:16,480
down to your opponent.
You always are facts.

1964
01:43:16,960 --> 01:43:20,200
Agreed, Agreed.
So that that will be the first.

1965
01:43:21,440 --> 01:43:24,080
Hopefully.
It's not the BMI game, it's the

1966
01:43:24,080 --> 01:43:25,200
BMI game.
God.

1967
01:43:25,200 --> 01:43:28,560
Get get the cigarettes.
Ready get to get to get to get

1968
01:43:28,560 --> 01:43:31,840
the hard liquor ready because
man listen, man, I'll be.

1969
01:43:32,320 --> 01:43:34,160
I.
Cannot wait to meet Phil in

1970
01:43:34,160 --> 01:43:35,800
person because I know well
feels.

1971
01:43:35,800 --> 01:43:38,160
Great.
I know he's going to be a

1972
01:43:38,160 --> 01:43:43,360
handful.
Yeah, you're awesome. 20 years

1973
01:43:43,400 --> 01:43:43,760
now.
Look.

1974
01:43:44,120 --> 01:43:48,040
Just like Dwight said, like it
hurts his heart, like these past

1975
01:43:48,040 --> 01:43:51,400
whatever, 10 years.
Aside from the Fuente flash in

1976
01:43:51,400 --> 01:43:54,680
the pan, man, it's hurt my heart
like so I just we got to we got

1977
01:43:54,680 --> 01:43:56,920
to get this fixed because I I
don't have any hobbies.

1978
01:43:57,040 --> 01:44:01,120
So no, I don't know Yeah, I
wish.

1979
01:44:01,680 --> 01:44:02,400
He ain't.
He ain't.

1980
01:44:02,560 --> 01:44:04,800
I don't like model airplaning
or.

1981
01:44:05,400 --> 01:44:10,760
Civil War reenactments or just.
Yeah, that's going to be really,

1982
01:44:10,760 --> 01:44:13,200
really, really bad next.
Year like unless we.

1983
01:44:13,200 --> 01:44:15,880
Somehow hit lightning.
In a bottle with some division

1984
01:44:15,880 --> 01:44:22,480
NAIA transfers and JUCO AA
division two stars.

1985
01:44:22,480 --> 01:44:23,520
Like man, it ain't going to
happen.

1986
01:44:23,520 --> 01:44:27,320
Come on, man, it ain't going.
I I can't believe Ben Hammond

1987
01:44:27,320 --> 01:44:28,640
and those guys are even coming
back.

1988
01:44:29,280 --> 01:44:31,080
Like come on, like they, I don't
know.

1989
01:44:31,160 --> 01:44:33,320
So we're going to find out they
doubled their pay.

1990
01:44:35,000 --> 01:44:37,120
Well, they doubled their pay,
OK?

1991
01:44:37,120 --> 01:44:40,760
And then we're going to hire
your son to play small forward.

1992
01:44:40,960 --> 01:44:44,120
Like, I don't this is insane.
Like, I don't know, that's me.

1993
01:44:44,120 --> 01:44:46,320
And but I get it.
Like I talked to a really good

1994
01:44:46,320 --> 01:44:48,720
prominent hokey today at the
baseball game and he's like,

1995
01:44:48,720 --> 01:44:52,000
look, football wins one year.
We get this thing rolling.

1996
01:44:53,160 --> 01:44:55,600
Eight wins is great.
But like if we somehow pull off

1997
01:44:55,600 --> 01:44:58,240
9 to 10, the money will come in
and that'll come out and they'll

1998
01:44:58,240 --> 01:45:00,840
be that'll all somehow come out
in the wash.

1999
01:45:00,840 --> 01:45:04,320
And I agree with that.
I just it's a big ass risk, man.

2000
01:45:04,400 --> 01:45:07,240
It's a it's a big only one coach
has ever won attack

2001
01:45:07,240 --> 01:45:10,440
consistently.
So we're going to find out.

2002
01:45:10,440 --> 01:45:12,800
We are going to find out with
all the resources and the money

2003
01:45:12,800 --> 01:45:15,480
being applied to it.
But I I hope I don't know.

2004
01:45:15,600 --> 01:45:18,160
So, but I I get it.
Football's what pays the bills.

2005
01:45:18,160 --> 01:45:20,640
Like nobody gives a shit with
Phil likes like everybody cares

2006
01:45:20,640 --> 01:45:23,120
what people who put watch
football like it it doesn't

2007
01:45:23,120 --> 01:45:24,720
matter.
It cares what the masses are.

2008
01:45:24,760 --> 01:45:28,400
So it it is it is the IT is the
the rising tide, right?

2009
01:45:28,400 --> 01:45:30,240
If football does good,
everything.

2010
01:45:30,240 --> 01:45:32,680
Can do good because it brings
the most money, the most eyes,

2011
01:45:32,680 --> 01:45:34,880
the most people.
It always has.

2012
01:45:34,880 --> 01:45:39,560
It always will.
And at least right now,

2013
01:45:40,200 --> 01:45:43,040
regardless what you feel about
James Franklin, at least they

2014
01:45:43,040 --> 01:45:45,800
are fucking going for it.
At least they're not fucking

2015
01:45:45,800 --> 01:45:50,040
trying another coordinator or
some G5 coach.

2016
01:45:50,040 --> 01:45:54,080
It's like, you know what?
This guy who's taking out lunch

2017
01:45:54,080 --> 01:45:57,960
money in multiple recruiting
battles, he is available.

2018
01:45:58,960 --> 01:46:02,520
He is available.
Decisive decisions.

2019
01:46:03,040 --> 01:46:04,520
He's going to be able to bring
better.

2020
01:46:04,520 --> 01:46:06,440
Coaches in he's.
Probably better bring better

2021
01:46:06,440 --> 01:46:09,320
players in.
At least we're going for it

2022
01:46:09,440 --> 01:46:11,760
again because I don't think we
all could have dealt.

2023
01:46:11,760 --> 01:46:15,080
Would have been like, well, this
guy from the guy that went to

2024
01:46:15,080 --> 01:46:20,160
Auburn, was it P Dom who now
Golish went to?

2025
01:46:20,160 --> 01:46:23,160
Yeah, Golish went to Auburn.
Golish.

2026
01:46:23,160 --> 01:46:25,360
Went to Florida, Golish went to
Auburn.

2027
01:46:25,400 --> 01:46:26,800
Yep, Golish.
Went to summer all.

2028
01:46:26,800 --> 01:46:27,600
Went.
To summer.

2029
01:46:27,600 --> 01:46:30,640
All went to Florida.
So the guys went to yeah, I

2030
01:46:30,720 --> 01:46:33,880
mean, but as much as we want to
say like, oh, we don't love to

2031
01:46:33,880 --> 01:46:35,640
have those guys.
We would have been like, you

2032
01:46:35,640 --> 01:46:38,560
know, their G.
Five guy, right, Their G5 guy.

2033
01:46:38,560 --> 01:46:40,480
So we've been another fucking
coordinator.

2034
01:46:41,400 --> 01:46:43,360
God damn.
Well, you know, he's a good

2035
01:46:43,360 --> 01:46:46,440
coordinator at least got a head
coach is our defense

2036
01:46:46,520 --> 01:46:47,880
coordinator.
We're a big fucking deal.

2037
01:46:48,040 --> 01:46:49,720
You're a big damn deal A.
Big damn deal.

2038
01:46:50,680 --> 01:46:53,760
And with that being said.
I'm going to wrap up this

2039
01:46:53,760 --> 01:46:55,400
episode of the.
Boundary corner.

2040
01:46:55,400 --> 01:46:58,240
Podcast brought to you by Mama
on the Mori.

2041
01:46:58,440 --> 01:46:59,880
He's with us.
Let's go.

2042
01:47:00,240 --> 01:47:03,480
We're ready for the season.
Ready for the season. 5 months

2043
01:47:03,480 --> 01:47:05,200
away.
Look at now.

2044
01:47:05,200 --> 01:47:10,440
Look it now give you a discount.
You said it, I don't.

2045
01:47:11,200 --> 01:47:13,320
Know I'm not going to give you
the I won't give everybody the

2046
01:47:13,320 --> 01:47:15,200
tally.
Discount, but they'll.

2047
01:47:15,200 --> 01:47:17,400
Be you mentioned bid.
If you if you mentioned

2048
01:47:17,400 --> 01:47:20,400
something in your boundary
corner, yeah, mentioned.

2049
01:47:20,400 --> 01:47:23,120
Boundary Corner in their quest,
they'll give you $100 off a Nike

2050
01:47:23,520 --> 01:47:24,400
I'm.
That kind of guy.

2051
01:47:24,880 --> 01:47:27,920
If you heard that, there you go.
Go back to this episode.

2052
01:47:29,120 --> 01:47:31,000
That's all.
So no more everybody, Phil.

2053
01:47:31,080 --> 01:47:32,840
I'm Brian.
I'm Curtis Wilson.

2054
01:47:33,080 --> 01:47:34,280
You are not Brian.
Siegler.

2055
01:47:34,280 --> 01:47:35,640
I'm not Brian Siegler.
That's you.

2056
01:47:38,560 --> 01:47:42,640
He tired.
Long day, let's go.

2057
01:47:43,160 --> 01:47:45,320
To bed.
Go to bed.

2058
01:47:45,320 --> 01:47:46,560
That's why I'm dead.
I'm literally.

2059
01:47:46,560 --> 01:47:48,360
Logging off?
Visit the website

2060
01:47:48,360 --> 01:47:52,080
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2061
01:47:52,560 --> 01:47:54,280
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2062
01:47:54,280 --> 01:47:57,400
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2063
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2064
01:48:00,480 --> 01:48:03,040
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2065
01:48:03,040 --> 01:48:05,320
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2066
01:48:05,320 --> 01:48:10,080
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2067
01:48:10,080 --> 01:48:13,160
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2068
01:48:13,680 --> 01:48:17,320
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2069
01:48:17,320 --> 01:48:19,360
guys, our normal crew jumping
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2070
01:48:20,320 --> 01:48:24,360
Thank you for listening, and as
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