Gophers Get Cassell Rocked
Boundary Corner Podcast
Gophers Get Cassell Rocked

This week we take a look at Hokies Hoops in earnest as we breakdown the victory against the Gophers in Cassell Coliseum. We also discuss the end of the ACC B1G Challenge, the SEC faceoff that's replacing it, and Women's Hoops jumping into the top 10. We close out this episode by circling back to football as we talk the transfer portal, the coaching carousel, CFP, and we give our picks for Championship Weekend.

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And welcome back to the boundary
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Brian Sigler, I'm Curtis Wilson
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how we feeling tonight on this

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Tuesday.
It's a Tuesday night and we

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don't have a recap first time.
All year no recap.

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We are, we are done with
recapping the Hokies.

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Now, whenever to recap in the
Hokies, We're done recapping the

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Hokies this season.
This see, we're done recapping

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games.
We constantly recap the Hokies

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and all elements of it, but one
of those things, me and Brian

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were saying, I'm going to be
traveling for work next week.

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Do you want to punch it this
week?

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Like yeah.
Lets punch it.

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It's also one of those things to
a told, Brian.

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It's really weird because I'm
used to putting something

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together this week, right?
Yep.

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You were used to putting
something together this Because

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there's usually a game in like,
okay, let's do it, we can figure

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out something, there's a ton of
news coming out, we got a bunch

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of games to pick at the end, to
have some fun and then obviously

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with, you know, the portal
opening up and we're going to

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talk a little bit about that and
some other things, but we're

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going to lead it off tonight
with the hardwood and not the

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Gridiron.
And we're going to talk about

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the Hokies Hoops a little bit.
And, you know, No me and Brian

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we're talking here we are.
The Hokies tip their first game.

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21 days ago they have played 8
games since I have and we're

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being honest here, I have been
able to watch really two games

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beginning to end.
Or yeah, I three games.

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I'm going to send a Minnesota
last night.

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Three games, beginning to end in
about two sparingly, where it's

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in and out in and out the others
have been following on Gamecast

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in my phone.
What about you Ron?

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Yeah, I put away for start to
finish probably pieces of to

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others and the other two I was
just kind of following along

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when I was when we I was I was
traveling during the During the

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the Charleston classic.
So, missed one of those and then

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got to see more than I thought.
I would though because of the

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way, everything worked out with
when we were kind of not doing

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stuff during that time but still
miss one of those and then you

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know, missed another one there.
But I've been following about as

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close as I can so far.
So try, try it as close as we

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can with you know, jobs
families.

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He's, you know, trying to watch,
pay attention to football and

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all that stuff.
It is, it's, I mean, attempted

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to file a basketball.
Season is in absolute grind

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grind because there's so many
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Like, last night, I thought we
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this, like, oh crap the 7:00
actually, maybe I'll watch some

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of this without falling asleep.
There you go.

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And I did.
But before we talk about last

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night's game, let's talk about
the close call versus Charleston

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Southern Brian, because that was
a game.

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I got to watch fairly off and
on, in and out.

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And it was just one of those
where, you know, it was the it

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was, it was Black Friday.
I don't know if necessary, the

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team looking through the
obviously, you're going to have

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a lesser crowd there, but I
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Limit by Charleston Southern
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Yeah, you know, wasn't a great
shooting night especially from

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three.
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got field goal, wise Charleston.
Southern was a hair better than

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you.
Three point wise, they're almost

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ten points.
Ten percentage points better

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than you were.
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where we won the game.
If we're being honest, it is it

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is I mean, it's not even a joke,
we Want to because, you know,

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rebounding even I mean, somebody
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I can't remember who it was.
If you remember who it was, you

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know, shout them out.
Making the point of why do you

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guys have career nights?
You know, there was there were

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two guys that made an abundant
amount of 34.

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Charleston Southern they won
like couldn't miss in.

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One was like over 40 percent.
You got guys like career average

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or like 7:00 at night.
Go off on us all the time.

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They basically double of what
they are scoring.

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But you know the team hung in
there they pull it out at the

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end with the 69-64 victory but
then last night, the team woke

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up a little bit.
I think obviously ACC Big Ten

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challenge which we'll discuss in
a few minutes as this is the

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last year of it.
Again, it's a big ten opponent.

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The students are back that
section was absolutely rocking

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last night.
Yeah, it looks like a Norman

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Castle.
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Look like castle look like,
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So, you know, Hokies take a 67
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They own.
It wasn't really that close.

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It wasn't that close, it wasn't
that close and you know I'm

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sitting here watching it and I
have to go do a couple things

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and I may be away five minutes
and at that point it was a like

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six point game and I come back
in the run.

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It started.
And that run just propelled this

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game at the end of the first
half to making it a crew for

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those keys.
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Yeah and I mean, really looking
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other than probably the last
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Two or three minutes of the game
absolute control in the second

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half as well?
Oh no reason.

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I mean there were times in that
second half sitting here

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watching it.
No keys are up 20 points.

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It doesn't even look like it
doesn't even look like they're

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struggling.
They're the balls moving.

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You know they destroy Minnesota
on the boards last night a plus

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15 don't go to the line that
often which kind of surprised me

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usually see a lot more fouls in
these games but just overall it

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was a good team win and you know
Justin what does what he does,

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right?
16 points, you know, nine total

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rebounds, he stole the ball, he
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out of paint.
Yeah, I'll be here a guy.

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That's now every game you can
expect a door close to a

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double-double on her somewhere
somewhere between 16 and 20

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points.
I mean he's become that type of

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player, definitely elevated
production at the offensive end

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this year.
He's not just you know, No.

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A big that has some some ability
that can also pass.

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Well, he's got a lot more
scoring to his game this year.

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That's really, really helped up
in the post there.

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And we've seen, you know, Sean
Padula take the, the big step

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that we were anticipating this
offseason.

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So that's been a big bowl stir
for the theme as well.

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We just need to get him some
help handling the basketball.

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We do, we do.
I mean Sean Padula, some and

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it's been mentioned by numerous
people, he has taken the step

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this you know, 17 Last night.
And in that first half in the

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early part of the second half,
like he was, there were times he

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was just dominate their times.
He was just dominating with the

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ball in his hands and it's great
to see.

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But to your point and maybe
that's why the lead slip back to

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10.
Is there times where he had to

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go off the floor?
He kind of ran out of gas in you

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know, right now if you know he
goes off the floor, it's kind of

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a kind of a mishmash of who's
going to handle the ball and

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bring it up the court and no one
is gonna Good enough like he is

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so you know, the big key right
now and we keep hearing the name

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and how big of a recruiter was
is when does Rodney rice come

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back?
Because the quicker Rodney rice

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gets back, it is going to
alleviate you know some of that

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pressure from certain guys.
You know who aren't you know,

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natural ball handlers and it
goes to Rodney and it's Rodney

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Sean and then the other guy
sparingly when needed.

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Yeah.
And now we had talked about

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originally that we were hoping
to get him back for the classic

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that didn't happen.
Now, it sounds like more, like,

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kind of right at the end of into
the semester is potential.

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So we'll see if that is still a
moving Target or if that's more

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of kind of a hopeful hopeful
spot for him.

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It'd be nice to get him in there
and get some some action in

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there before we get into the
heart of a CC play, you know,

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we're going to get the one early
against North Carolina, but you

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know, if we can get him back by
the get him acclimated into the

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game by the time we get into the
meat of the ACC schedule.

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I think that's probably the most
desirable outcome.

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Absolutely.
And it's going to be key

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because, you know, last night,
the team had 14, turnovers their

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teams in the ACC.
You do that again, it's not

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going to be a double digit wins.
Can be a double-digit loss and

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obviously we don't want that.
Happen.

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I'll tell you something else
last night that you know sort of

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was a little bit impressive to
me him drawing charges is always

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been impressive.
I want to know if there is a

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stat out there for that because
he drew, I think what three more

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last night but just in general,
you know, the way he draws

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charges, how he plays position
defense it's getting better and

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better and even when he's not on
fire from outside or he's not

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you know giving you 10 to 12
points, what Hunters doing On

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the defensive end is great.
Yakitori is definitely taking a

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big step with his defense.
This year continues to impress

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on that end of the floor, not
quite taking as many shots as we

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saw at points last year, but
we've also seen that, you know,

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he's not a guy that Takes a lot
of shots consistently usually he

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when he's hot, he's going to
take the shot if it's not quite

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Fallen, he's not going to force
anything.

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He's not just he's not that
volume tape sheet.

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Everybody is a very streaky
shooter when he when he gets

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hot.
He's very hot.

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Absolutely another guy last
night that definitely chipped in

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with you know getting people
rest being physical giving up

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fouls and last night as well
scoring was petite.

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You know they had those four
personal fouls but he's a big

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bodied guy.
That's okay.

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That's what he needs to be there
for.

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But 11 minutes and eight points.
I mean, you tell me he gets us

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five every night and comes in
and helps play good defense and

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be a physical presence.
It's I mean, I think that's

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going to go a long way, as the
season goes for the rotation for

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the rotation of this team.
Especially once rice gets back.

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Absolutely.
And we saw, you know what, Lynn

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kid was out there for 16
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We saw columns out there for 21,
so we saw, we saw some of the

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bench last night and they, they
showed a little bit of little

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bit of action there.
Again, it you said especially

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Poteet there, but I was
impressed by what kid was able

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to bring to the table as well.
Yeah.

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And and it's all about, in this
case, once you get rice back,

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it's it's never be, I don't
think with Mike young, you're

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never going to see a guy.
Do a Collins, did consistently

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Off the Bench and get 20 plus
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I just don't think you see that
but it's if they know their role

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which I think petite knows his
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I think kids hopefully learns
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It's once you learn your role
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Young.
That's how you get inserted

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because I think the way my
quirks and you take a look, the

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starters, the lowest was months
with 24, the highest was Padula

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with 35 to do with 35.
Makes a lot of sense, but you

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might young is not a.
I'm going to sub three guys at

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once.
It's normally I'm going to sub

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1.
Yeah, I'm gonna solve another

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one, and another one and it's
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he's never going to take his
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that's the case this year.
So we'll see how Goes yeah.

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Usually usually two guys at a
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going to see ya.
But Brian, there is a concerning

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stat for Virginia Tech and how
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three point percentage last
night, 36%, We haven't shot over

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40% since ODU that with Penn
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that's four games we've played
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So half the games, you know, we
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honest.
You give me your opinion.

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I don't want to see last year
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and I'm going to pull the stats
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Unless that gets up to hovering
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every We game there's going to
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Yeah I'd say The only positive I
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that this team is already shown
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when they're cold from three
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to ACC play.
But we know that you know, the

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competition's going to ratchet
up as as we get into the

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conference play, we're not going
to be able to have those

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back-to-back-to-back games where
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forty percent from three because
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wouldn't say we live and die by
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certainly cannot reach this
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the three point shot and just
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And this is last year, full year
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games last year.
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range this year. 35 7.
The in four percent of the

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volume.
You know, when you're taking 20

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shots of night, that's a few
extra fallen and in tight games

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that is the difference between
winning and losing.

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I mean, it's definitely the
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Charleston classic and not it's
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Then we will say that.
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the big things is not to knock
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What the the last Maddox we saw
is not the Maddox that picked up

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at the beginning of this year
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Yeah, the shots not following
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would.
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thought he was going to roll
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Right back in and pick up where
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We're not seeing that at the
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having proved, which is helped
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problem.
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But, you know, at some point
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start falling for us to reach
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We want to in conference play.
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at 26 percent.
And I know he was a he was a

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kind of a bench guy last year
and then kind of got more time

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he shot. 50% from three last
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like six and a half a game, but
that number is got to get closer

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to 40.
I'll be if you're telling me

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he's a 38 39, I think, I think
we can live and we can live with

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that 25.
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and I say that just us as fans
taking our hats off slanting,

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pulling our hair out watching
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earlier with Couture.
It's a little different when

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Darius Maddox.
Yeah, exactly, exactly.

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He is a volume shooter when he
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So, you know, we'll see big game
obviously is on Saturday with

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Caroline.
A human sundae with Carolina

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coming into town at three in
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Yeah, three in Castle.
It's going to tell a lot about

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this team.
Win or lose.

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Yeah.
And you know in some ways it's

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probably not as great that we're
getting Carolina.

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Coming off of a loss there.
Well, hello a loss and then they

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got dropped 17 spots in the.
I don't get the front.

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It's actually that's a very big.
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I mean if you just said eight or
nine spots, I'd have been like

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sure. 17 spots and they lost to
a top 20 team in quadruple

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overtime.
It's like the it's like this I

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mean they certainly aren't what
we went.

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You know the poll said they were
we know that we knew we knew

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they were over ranked to start
the year.

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Why they should ranked teams
until the end of December and

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basketball.
There we go.

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But the honest truth is where
the AP just just trying to set

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us up.
Now, they play Technics, let's

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just go ahead and drop Carolina
way down here to put something

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on their minds as they going to
Castle.

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I probably mentioned just a
couple minutes ago about this is

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the last game of the ACC Big Ten
challenge.

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It's 23, years old, you know,
obviously out of my mom buddy.

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Malik from work mentioned.
Like he's a little bit younger

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than us about 10 years.
He's like, I grew up on that.

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I expected that every November.
Yep, really good.

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Enter conference.
And, you know, and I'd say for

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us, it's Allure.
We were a little bit older but

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it was one of those times in,
you know, you know, High School

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College Avenue week after
Thanksgiving.

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You're expecting to me some good
basketball games on mid-week,

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right?
Exactly this this time of year.

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I mean, you kind of get those
higher profile matchups that

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you're not necessarily used to
write.

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So it was always good.
Good matchup.

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And I know we're moving into a
new era with the, with the SEC

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coming in.
That's going to be interesting.

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Who is, who is your, who do you
want first?

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Well, it's obvious to me.
You gotta let Tech play em with

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Buzz there.
And, and the honest truth is,

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just because they have to put it
in Castle.

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You can't put it down in
Aggieland, you have to put it at

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Castle.
Make it matter more.

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Make it matter a lot more.
What about you?

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Are you on that train or you
know, a little different.

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You know what, I'd like to see
us?

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Finally, get over the Florida
hump.

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So I'd like to get Florida.
Okay, okay.

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That's a good one.
That's a good one.

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That's a good one.
And, you know, a lot of

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interesting matchups and
obviously a lot of people are

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saying well why did this happen?
A the Big Ten they're losing.

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The ESP is essentially losing
every right to the big tent.

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This wasn't just a football for
everybody that says, it's a

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football move, it is mostly
about football, but they've lost

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a all the basketball stuff and
like that.

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So now why wouldn't they pivot
to their two biggest, you know,

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investments in the ACC in the
SEC and for the ACC you're from

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doing this challenge, you're
probably going to see a revenue

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bump.
Obviously you're going to

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probably see See more ACC games
in the weekday getting ESPN,

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ESPN2 treatment versus being
shuffled around to the network.

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When it's not a big game, so
more notoriety and you know for

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us probably as a region a few
more matchups.

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You know, we talked about a.m.
and Brian mentioned Florida, I

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mean what about Tennessee yeah,
I mean, you know, when the when

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Tennessee when that becomes sort
of a Yeah, when they decide to

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have those two teams play that a
lot of people will come up out

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for that.
So in, who knows?

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I think it'll be interesting.
And again, you still have just

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thinking higher level ACC, you
still have your blue blood, I

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mean, you know, they, you know,
Kentucky with Carolina and Duke,

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you know, Florida, Tennessee,
obviously, being good, you've

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got enough Firepower.
On both sides where it's still

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good, stay intriguing for sure.
And I mean, we've seen the SEC,

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take big steps in basketball,
probably the last decade to

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where, you know, they were kind
of very middling for a while and

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now they're very much in the
kind of the top-tier there.

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So, 100% 100%, let's talk real
quick.

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Two notes, women's hoop.
Now, ranked number 9 in the

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country.
Give them a clap continue to

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win.
Um including smashing a lot of

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the other night which Longwood
was a tournament team last year.

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And I think they expected to
compete in the Big South again

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this year.
Don't quote me, but I don't

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think they're gonna quite reach
the heights.

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They did last year, but they
were certainly supposed to be

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competitive in that conference
and they got their ass waxed.

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What was the psalmist was like
87, 37, 8, it was an 80 9 20. 88

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or something like that.
Oh, I thought they broke 30.

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That hurts.
That hurts a lot.

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He's pulling it up here.
Yeah.

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Benjamin earlier when we were
talking about it and it was

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like, we gotta mention this
because eighty nine.

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Twenty-eight.
I was right. 89, 2861.

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Did Longwood even break double
digits in any quarter.

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Hang on.
Let's see how this is just

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purely me entertaining myself
and I know they got 11 in the

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third.
Oh God, did they get under five

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and a quarter?
This oh they did.

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Yeah.
They open a opening quarter.

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It was 20 to 40 and we put the
slam the door to 6:33 in the

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forest.
Under 10's on back sighs.

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I think I'm doing the math here
so 7-Eleven in six in the third

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a six-point quarter 66 in the
second so you can support for

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611 7.
Barely broke doubled it out,

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guys?
Well, you know what Kenny is got

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good thing going with the
women's Hoops team, obviously

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nationally-recognized up there
now and obviously, you know, as

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well as with the ACC sec.
Amens challenge is going to be

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coming in a woman's challenges
well and obviously that probably

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is much better for the women's
product.

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Yeah because the SEC women's
basketball overall is better.

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And you know the ACC as well
with take the one go with

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Louisville playing well with a
couple other really good

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programs state so there's South
Carolina in the mix there with

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those boys for that.
No kill some confidence you

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playing the the lady Gamecocks
down there because they are

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crushing it.
They should let UVA play them.

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It's Dawn.
Playing with his ball is an

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elite player that you hate
30-plus years ago.

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There we go.
Hi.

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So what will close the book on
talking about Hoops here at lot

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of fun?
Again, Hoops is such a long

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season.
You know what, we'll try to hit

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games as we're on here and there
obviously, you know, We'll talk

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about some of the games when
we're back in a couple weeks and

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you know how the teams looking
over all.

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All right, Brian?
Let's flip.

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Let's talk about some college
football and using notes and the

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college football game of
headsets as return, The starting

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off 15 openings.
Yeah, it's that's has a 10%.

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That's a big damn number right
there that we had to fill in

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here and we're moving pretty
quickly to fill it in.

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You know, we're about what a
third of the way there.

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We're a third of the way there.
And we are only a few days

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after, you know, Black Monday or
where a day after Black Monday.

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Excuse me.
But one of those roles got

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filled last week Solid didn't
mention it just a lot more going

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on but UNC Charlotte who had
fired will Healey earlier in the

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year hired, the associate head
coach for Michigan Biff.

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Poggi poggi did some research on
him, long time, high school

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coach up in.
Maryland cannot remember the

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high school's name.
What won multiple?

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Multiple state titles?
Put a lot of D1 prospects

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including Blake Quorum at
Michigan, where he is, Added to

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go and Coach but you know it
seems like they Club.

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Lit and UNC Charlotte is being
shut down.

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And it sounds like put in their
glove lit is kaput kaput dead.

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And they're bringing the guy
named Biff in.

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I don't think there's gonna be a
lot of clubland.

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I think there might be a lot of
a lot of running.

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I think so.
I think so, I wonder if they're

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going to throw but head up out
there look, you know, I'm

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interested in.
Alright, let's start with some

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of the other bigger hires in,
let's start with probably the

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biggest program higher and it's
Nebraska, and it's Matt rule,

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you know, You do got fired from
the Panthers just to you know,

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couple months ago such success
at Baylor Sussex s at Temple.

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He hits an eight-year contract
down there.

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My buddy again Malik multiple
shout out to tell them tomorrow

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at work, listen Malek's like
he's got the best agent in the

443
00:28:12,100 --> 00:28:13,600
world.
He's getting like 68 million

444
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,400
dollars from Tepper and now,
he's got an eight-year deal from

445
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:20,200
the Prescott.
What do you think of the higher

446
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:26,900
bronze with ruled on a Nebraska?
I think it's A decent fit, you

447
00:28:26,900 --> 00:28:31,000
know, I think he kind of knows
the lay of the land there in

448
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,900
general still within kind of
that recruiting footprint, that

449
00:28:34,900 --> 00:28:40,700
we, that he was used to before.
We'll see if anyone can bring

450
00:28:40,700 --> 00:28:43,300
Nebraska back from the from the
brink here.

451
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:49,300
It's kind of Unfortunately
mirrored us a little bit and

452
00:28:49,300 --> 00:28:53,300
kind of been in the doldrums but
competitive and then kind of

453
00:28:53,300 --> 00:28:58,200
fell off the map a little bit.
So we'll see if we can kind of

454
00:28:58,208 --> 00:29:00,800
get back where we need to with
this program and see if rules

455
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,300
the guy to do it.
What with rule I think it's

456
00:29:03,300 --> 00:29:05,800
going to be more interesting to
see if he can get back just at

457
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:10,200
the Bellini level.
Yeah the eight nine wins a year

458
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,800
occasionally attend because that
wasn't good enough for me I

459
00:29:12,808 --> 00:29:16,400
think Pelini was a even though
he was a hothead Polina.

460
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:20,700
Football guy, I think Pelini I
absolutely got KN too early

461
00:29:20,700 --> 00:29:26,300
because Nebraska thought they
thought it was still the 90s and

462
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,600
what wasn't and I get mad.
I get having goals and I get not

463
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,500
being content with just being an
eight or nine win team.

464
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:39,100
But you gotta support the guy
that's there and see if you can

465
00:29:39,300 --> 00:29:43,100
build around him to get there.
Instead of just firing a guy and

466
00:29:43,100 --> 00:29:46,100
thinking you're going to, you
know, go hire the the next

467
00:29:46,100 --> 00:29:47,400
up-and-coming.
Owen, gfiveg.

468
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,200
I think that it's going to
happen.

469
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,100
It's true man, it's true.
I think the big thing with rule

470
00:29:53,100 --> 00:29:57,700
though and the one thing that
you kind of read was how he

471
00:29:57,700 --> 00:30:00,900
tried to create a culture in the
NFL like he did in college.

472
00:30:00,900 --> 00:30:04,300
That doesn't work in the NFL no
collagen does though and I think

473
00:30:04,300 --> 00:30:09,100
in a place like Nebraska it can
work now obviously he's made a

474
00:30:09,100 --> 00:30:11,900
huge move and getting
Satterfield from South Carolina

475
00:30:11,900 --> 00:30:15,300
to come over.
And that guy he's familiar with

476
00:30:15,500 --> 00:30:18,200
it's a guy we've already.
Seen obviously he's paid

477
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:22,000
dividends for Shane going to be
interesting to see who Shane

478
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:27,600
fills in with that spot.
But you know Nebraska going with

479
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:32,800
the eight-year deal says a lot
because it's almost like they're

480
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:37,300
giving him a two-year freebie
and then probably a three year.

481
00:30:37,900 --> 00:30:39,500
You know, let's see what you
got.

482
00:30:40,100 --> 00:30:44,800
But I mean I'll give the higher
an a he was the biggest name out

483
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,900
there.
Right.

484
00:30:46,900 --> 00:30:50,000
Biggest name out there.
Definitely the biggest thing out

485
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,900
there that didn't already have a
job somewhere else.

486
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,400
The biggest free agent out
there, maybe that's what we

487
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,900
should say.
All right, let's flip the this

488
00:30:56,900 --> 00:31:00,300
one.
Next Braun, not a bigger name

489
00:31:00,300 --> 00:31:02,100
because I'm going to go with the
big names and then we're going

490
00:31:02,100 --> 00:31:06,800
to hit the actual affecting of
the Hokies at the end here.

491
00:31:07,100 --> 00:31:12,800
But Arizona State hires Kenny
Dillingham, Kenny Dillingham is

492
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,200
32 years old.
So go ahead and put that out

493
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:22,200
there.
He was born in 1990. he

494
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,900
obviously recently had been at
Oregon as their offensive

495
00:31:25,900 --> 00:31:30,200
coordinator for this one year
before that two years at Florida

496
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:35,500
State under Mike nor fell and
then before that he was with he

497
00:31:35,500 --> 00:31:41,000
was at Auburn under gustn 2019
and then back with Norville in

498
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:47,300
2018 at Memphis in 2017, in
Memphis young guy, Arizona State

499
00:31:47,300 --> 00:31:52,900
grad, And I think Arizona
State's in a little bit of

500
00:31:52,900 --> 00:31:59,000
plummet, right now, of what's
going on, you know, because of

501
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,500
the whole home situation and all
the stuff that was going on

502
00:32:01,500 --> 00:32:03,200
there.
I feel like they just decided to

503
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,100
say, hey you know what, we're
going to do?

504
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,500
We're kind of just going to go
one somebody who was here less

505
00:32:09,500 --> 00:32:13,600
than 15 years ago, probably
understands the culture and all

506
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,000
that stuff about what we need to
be competitive here at Arizona

507
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:21,000
State.
Yeah, it's going to be

508
00:32:21,008 --> 00:32:25,400
interesting to see what they are
able to do out there because I

509
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,300
feel like they've kind of lost
their way.

510
00:32:27,300 --> 00:32:32,900
I feel like that was kind of a
somewhat consistent program for

511
00:32:32,900 --> 00:32:39,400
a while and it's going to be
seen if they can kind of get

512
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:45,900
back in that mix in the Pac-12
to really be competitive because

513
00:32:45,900 --> 00:32:48,200
they really kind of fallen off
of map a little bit there.

514
00:32:48,500 --> 00:32:52,600
The last three years in the
Pac-12 is getting easier, I

515
00:32:52,608 --> 00:32:55,100
mean, in the next few years
would, you know, when USC and

516
00:32:55,100 --> 00:32:59,200
UCLA moving its going to become
an easier conference to compete

517
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:06,400
in and you know, Again, I think
this is just a culture higher

518
00:33:06,500 --> 00:33:09,200
regardless, what the offense
looks like in all that.

519
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:13,000
I think it's just if it's
someone, he went here, he's one

520
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,300
of us.
He understands what we do, you

521
00:33:15,308 --> 00:33:20,800
understand where we can be and
what we can do, and sometimes

522
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,100
that's all you need.
You need a voice and someone

523
00:33:23,100 --> 00:33:26,500
who's familiar with everything.
So, I'll probably, I'll say a

524
00:33:26,500 --> 00:33:31,200
see on this one.
Obviously, it's all come three

525
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,400
years from now, you know.
For the guys who can do those

526
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,400
shows?
I tip my hat to you because

527
00:33:37,900 --> 00:33:42,100
research because, you know, yeah
I'm right there with you, on the

528
00:33:42,108 --> 00:33:46,400
sea to be continued to see what
this how this turns out.

529
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,300
But all right.
Now the next two, I don't think

530
00:33:49,300 --> 00:33:52,200
we're going to grate a.
See, the first one.

531
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:56,400
Is it broke Sunday.
I know I sent you guys the thing

532
00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:03,400
about 11:00 Luke fickle, Leaf,
Cincinnati and in kind of Of a

533
00:34:03,408 --> 00:34:06,400
shocker to some people.
Specially Wisconsin had looked

534
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:10,900
better under Jim Leonard.
Luke people to Wisconsin.

535
00:34:12,500 --> 00:34:13,900
Go Brian.
What do you think?

536
00:34:14,300 --> 00:34:16,500
Yeah, I mean that I'm gonna go a
minus here.

537
00:34:16,500 --> 00:34:19,900
I mean that's that's as big of a
higher I think is Wisconsin

538
00:34:19,900 --> 00:34:23,199
could have pulled other than
sticking with with Leonard and,

539
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,800
you know, it's a guy that's
going to come in and immediately

540
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:31,600
have I think success.
I think he's going to have have

541
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:35,800
that locker room how quickly he
kind of gets things going in

542
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,600
terms of being competitive for
the actual conference title.

543
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,000
I think is in question, but I
think you'll definitely kind of

544
00:34:42,100 --> 00:34:47,100
Get them back to that you know,
roughly around 10 win level that

545
00:34:47,100 --> 00:34:50,699
we're kind of used to Wisconsin
being at Henry out the gate.

546
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,800
They're not that far from it
either.

547
00:34:53,100 --> 00:34:57,700
No, I still think Paul Chris
pissed, somebody off, I do, I

548
00:34:57,700 --> 00:35:00,400
feel think he pissed somebody
off in that Administration and

549
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,300
they were just like you get
start this season all bad,

550
00:35:03,300 --> 00:35:05,100
you're going bye-bye, and he
did.

551
00:35:05,100 --> 00:35:08,200
And that's what happened.
As far as it goes.

552
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,600
I'm more interested to see from
this.

553
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,900
If there any players that will
leave, especially on the

554
00:35:14,900 --> 00:35:19,100
offensive line, are there any
players that?

555
00:35:19,300 --> 00:35:23,700
Because if we look in vain with
what he's been running at

556
00:35:23,700 --> 00:35:27,100
Cincinnati for those years, it's
not that power base game.

557
00:35:27,100 --> 00:35:30,500
That's a little bit more spread.
It's a little bit little bit

558
00:35:30,500 --> 00:35:33,900
different of an offense and what
they've been doing it Wisconsin.

559
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,300
And if he's give me a tackle in
the center, there you go.

560
00:35:38,300 --> 00:35:41,000
That's all Brawn.
Give it here.

561
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,700
They haven't played that much.
That's all brown wants because

562
00:35:43,700 --> 00:35:47,200
at least you know, body
movement, they know and Joe

563
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,200
wants.
But that's going to be

564
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:50,800
interesting to see what he does
though.

565
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,900
If he takes that and goes into
Wisconsin and decides, we're

566
00:35:54,900 --> 00:35:58,200
going to try to run this offense
and if it will work because

567
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,800
basically Wisconsin's ran the
same offense for 30 years since

568
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,500
Alvarez was there.
More or less.

569
00:36:04,500 --> 00:36:09,900
Yeah, in the thing is, you know,
fickle zundert, Russell for all

570
00:36:09,908 --> 00:36:12,400
those years and under John
Cooper would they did a lot of

571
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:17,200
the similar stuff you know back
in the 90s and early 2000s.

572
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,000
So super interested to see how
it goes.

573
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,500
Again I'm with you.
Eh - on this probably couldn't

574
00:36:23,500 --> 00:36:25,100
have got a better at least
culture.

575
00:36:25,100 --> 00:36:29,100
Fit knows the Big Ten knows
recruiting footprint, probably

576
00:36:29,100 --> 00:36:31,000
going to be able to up that game
a little bit there.

577
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,900
All right, Brian this is the one
that probably made me the

578
00:36:34,900 --> 00:36:40,700
happiest, the squad, the Auburn
Tigers War.

579
00:36:40,700 --> 00:36:47,700
Damn Eagle decided to come down
to Lynchburg and get Hugh freeze

580
00:36:47,700 --> 00:36:51,200
out of their God.
There we go.

581
00:36:52,900 --> 00:36:59,800
What's your grade on this one?
A Plus Sigma Plus Hugh freeze

582
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:04,000
has proven both at Ole Miss,
where he was getting top-notch

583
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:08,600
players.
Maybe my not the most honest of

584
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:12,300
ladies, which doesn't matter as
much.

585
00:37:12,300 --> 00:37:17,400
Now, it does not matter as much
now, but but but still you can't

586
00:37:17,900 --> 00:37:20,600
do the things he was doing to
get players that's still a leak.

587
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:26,800
Very true, very other.
There are other ways above board

588
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:31,100
to lure recruits to Our school
now there is but I think what

589
00:37:31,100 --> 00:37:35,900
he's done, he could take some of
the best talent in the country.

590
00:37:35,900 --> 00:37:38,900
Right out of high school,
develop them beat Alabama,

591
00:37:38,900 --> 00:37:43,400
compete in the SEC.
I think, what he's done at

592
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:47,700
Liberty to is he's shown you,
how good his coaching chops are

593
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,700
taking cast, all taking three
stars, taking two stars, and

594
00:37:51,700 --> 00:37:55,000
really turning them into a team
that can be competitive with

595
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,700
just about anybody in the
country.

596
00:37:58,500 --> 00:38:02,100
And when it comes to a place
like Auburn, he's going to

597
00:38:02,107 --> 00:38:04,600
probably have top 15 top 12
classes.

598
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,600
He's going to have some really
good big-time recruit but I

599
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:11,600
think what he's learned at
Liberty is I can dip my toe into

600
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:15,200
the transfer portal into the
transfer market and I can plug

601
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:20,000
holes somebody asked me today.
You think savings shaking in his

602
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,800
boots?
Like no-shave is not shaking in

603
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,900
his boots, but Saban knows it's
getting a lot tougher now.

604
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,900
Because he knows Hugh freeze
somehow.

605
00:38:29,900 --> 00:38:33,500
He's got the Kryptonite well the
only guys that ever beat saving

606
00:38:33,500 --> 00:38:40,700
multiple times Yeah I think so
I'm not as high on the grade as

607
00:38:40,700 --> 00:38:46,200
you I'm back in the a - range on
this one but I say that with a

608
00:38:46,207 --> 00:38:49,000
caveat and before I get there,
let me go ahead and say this.

609
00:38:51,900 --> 00:38:53,500
Like stay, like, stay out of the
day.

610
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:59,300
Fun fact, Auburn's last three
hires have been former Arkansas,

611
00:38:59,300 --> 00:39:05,700
State head coach has, it is now
a requirement that if you're

612
00:39:05,700 --> 00:39:09,700
going to coach at Auburn, you
have to have a stop at Arkansas

613
00:39:09,700 --> 00:39:13,800
State, you have to go through
the Arkansas state path there,

614
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,600
that has to be part of your
career path.

615
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:23,400
So, but I like this from the
standpoint of He's shown a

616
00:39:23,408 --> 00:39:30,700
propensity to be able to recruit
in the SEC players that can beat

617
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,700
the teams.
You have to beat To potentially

618
00:39:34,700 --> 00:39:36,900
play for, and or win the
conference.

619
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:41,300
Sure.
And he's shown the ability to

620
00:39:41,700 --> 00:39:46,200
get a lot out of players that
Once he gets them in-house,

621
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,500
right.
So he's taking castoffs he's

622
00:39:48,500 --> 00:39:54,400
taken 3 star guys, and develop
them into better players than

623
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,700
their grade were.
He's taken to Star, guys, and

624
00:39:56,700 --> 00:39:58,200
done the same thing.
They're at Liberty.

625
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:03,700
So, you know, there are things
about this that I like a lot

626
00:40:04,700 --> 00:40:07,700
obviously, from an Auburn
perspective.

627
00:40:07,700 --> 00:40:11,100
You're getting baggage with this
higher so that's why it's not an

628
00:40:11,100 --> 00:40:15,800
A-Plus in my perspective.
And because you get Baggage.

629
00:40:16,900 --> 00:40:20,700
The hook is going to be there, I
think quicker than you'd like to

630
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:25,100
like it to be.
So this is on freeze to show his

631
00:40:25,100 --> 00:40:30,100
ability in the first two years
to at least get one of those

632
00:40:30,100 --> 00:40:33,600
Marquee wins.
He will or that fan base, is

633
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:37,300
going to get antsy because they
have a real easy out to get it.

634
00:40:37,300 --> 00:40:39,000
Get him out there.
Are you ready?

635
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,400
And I'm going to ask you this
and you be straight up with me

636
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,200
because of that.
They did Gus.

637
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,100
If they give him two years and
they pulled the plug, or they

638
00:40:47,100 --> 00:40:51,700
about to become Tennessee, for
what we saw for almost 15 years

639
00:40:51,700 --> 00:40:53,400
after the.
Oh, yeah, absolutely.

640
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,400
Absolutely.
They are about to fall into the

641
00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:01,500
Tennessee trap for sure.
If this doesn't work out, they

642
00:41:01,500 --> 00:41:05,200
will be in the Tennessee trap.
And thing is, I think he can

643
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,500
coach, but I think it might take
it could take four years.

644
00:41:09,500 --> 00:41:12,500
It could take four years or may
not because he may come in there

645
00:41:12,500 --> 00:41:15,000
and say, you're out, you're out,
you're out.

646
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,800
I'm going to recruit well and
that's for four years now, but

647
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,300
I'm going to bring a bunch and I
think he has that ability.

648
00:41:20,500 --> 00:41:23,600
The question is is that if it
doesn't happen in two years

649
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,000
because because of the baggage,
because you hired a coach of

650
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,700
baggage, it's going to be a lot
easier to talk yourself into

651
00:41:30,700 --> 00:41:33,100
getting rid of him.
True that.

652
00:41:33,100 --> 00:41:36,900
So that's, that's the downside
of hiring a coach with that much

653
00:41:36,900 --> 00:41:39,800
baggage.
And that's that fan base, in

654
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:43,700
general, I'm still underneath, I
mean, look at their basketball

655
00:41:43,700 --> 00:41:44,200
coach.
I'll be.

656
00:41:44,300 --> 00:41:47,500
And that's, you know, we're not
comparing the two, but the two

657
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:56,800
last one that had broken so far.
I don't know if any other before

658
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:01,800
I put the last one on here.
Yeah, I'm doing this slide.

659
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:06,600
I don't really care.
I mean, sometimes it's just like

660
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:14,700
yeah, screw it.
He's confirming.

661
00:42:14,700 --> 00:42:17,700
What we are just about to talk
about and that is that Georgia

662
00:42:17,700 --> 00:42:22,900
Tech is going to retain print
Keys as its head coach.

663
00:42:22,900 --> 00:42:26,600
Now this wasn't the news as of
Sunday as of Sunday the deal.

664
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:30,000
Was it look like Willie Fritz
from Tulane was going to get

665
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:36,700
pulled in?
That deal sorted died in to me

666
00:42:36,700 --> 00:42:39,400
when I saw that.
I can't take Georgia Tech

667
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,300
seriously because you're going,
you know, say it.

668
00:42:42,300 --> 00:42:44,500
I mean come on you know a little
bit more about Fritz's offense

669
00:42:44,500 --> 00:42:47,200
and I do you can kind of see
what it is.

670
00:42:47,700 --> 00:42:52,800
So the comparison that I made
was that if you're going to hire

671
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:58,100
a 62 year old head coach, you
need to find more of a Mack

672
00:42:58,100 --> 00:43:02,300
Brown type than a guy that runs
a niche offense.

673
00:43:03,900 --> 00:43:06,800
When you're already trying to
break the mold of the guy that

674
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:11,800
you had previously that ran a
niche offense, you know, and we

675
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:15,400
can make the arguments that they
probably tried to do too much

676
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:20,000
too quick with that offense
under Collins, 100%.

677
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:26,100
Absolutely, but I don't think
that you need to kind of go.

678
00:43:26,100 --> 00:43:29,500
The other direction say that,
we're only a school that can run

679
00:43:29,500 --> 00:43:32,000
a niche offense.
Now I don't think we're at that

680
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:36,000
point with Georgia Tech.
But you know, if you did that,

681
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:40,900
if you, if you went the Tulane
route, you be even essentially

682
00:43:40,900 --> 00:43:44,800
saying, we only have a three to
Five-Year Plan and that plan is

683
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,900
to remain an itch offense and
not be able to recruit offensive

684
00:43:48,900 --> 00:43:53,400
talent to this team and let
unless you're, unless you can

685
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,200
just run the show, the football.
Exactly.

686
00:43:57,500 --> 00:44:04,900
Um, I mean, Keith did fine for
and for he beat us, Well, I take

687
00:44:04,900 --> 00:44:07,100
that back.
We beat ourselves - just stop.

688
00:44:08,700 --> 00:44:14,400
He didn't let his team.
Implode equip, exactly, exactly.

689
00:44:15,100 --> 00:44:19,900
Then let it steam quit and and
and he was able to keep them

690
00:44:19,900 --> 00:44:24,700
together for that whole game and
was able to make the plays at

691
00:44:24,700 --> 00:44:27,000
the end that they need to make
after we shot ourselves in the

692
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,800
foot, very true.
But he's a, he's a, he's a

693
00:44:30,808 --> 00:44:33,500
Georgia Tech Alum, he played
their back.

694
00:44:33,700 --> 00:44:38,500
In the believe it was late 1990s
early 2000s when they were a

695
00:44:38,500 --> 00:44:44,000
solid program, you know.
He, I read here on familes,

696
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:49,500
tweet that he was a team captain
there, he coached under saving

697
00:44:49,500 --> 00:44:54,400
in Alabama.
I just for him, I mean, he'll be

698
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:58,000
given four five, six years,
because I don't I don't just see

699
00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:59,600
what he's done this yet.
I don't think they're ever going

700
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,900
to be as bad as they were under
Collins week.

701
00:45:01,900 --> 00:45:05,600
I'm still trying to figure out
What went on where Jeff Collins

702
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:10,700
just fell off a cliff.
But at some point you got to

703
00:45:10,700 --> 00:45:12,200
actually coach, you can just
talk.

704
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,000
Yeah.
It's just like a it's a c-plus

705
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,200
be - higher.
It's nothing great.

706
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,100
It's just steady want to keep
the locker room together of a,

707
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,800
you know, team that went for and
for I mean the most impressive

708
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:25,800
game to me is what they did
Saturday.

709
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:30,200
I had that game up and to say
that they hung around with

710
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:35,500
Georgia, almost three quarters.
Like, it was still a competitive

711
00:45:35,500 --> 00:45:38,900
football game that's impressive
because of the talent disparity

712
00:45:38,900 --> 00:45:42,800
there.
And again, I think for them,

713
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,500
it's like, he's a homegrown guy.
Let's give him five or six

714
00:45:45,500 --> 00:45:47,900
years.
Obviously, he's not going to

715
00:45:47,900 --> 00:45:51,100
suck as bad as Collins does, and
we'll move on.

716
00:45:51,300 --> 00:45:54,200
Well, obviously he knows how to
put together a game plan and get

717
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:58,300
the players ready to play a lot
better than Collins not.

718
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:04,000
All right, so Brian of these
remain during openings, He's

719
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,200
list them off, one by one.
Which one interests you the most

720
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,500
of where?
Who gets who you still got

721
00:46:10,500 --> 00:46:14,700
Colorado, open Stanford's open,
USF.

722
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:24,400
FAU Tulsa, Tulsa UAB Maddie,
Western Michigan UNLV, which one

723
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:30,300
interests you the most So I've
got a 1, a 0, a 1, B.

724
00:46:30,300 --> 00:46:31,500
And then I've got an honorable
man.

725
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:37,800
No no no no, yeah.
All right. 111 is going to be

726
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,600
since Daddy just because they
are going to be a power 5

727
00:46:42,300 --> 00:46:45,600
program, okay.
And I think I think they have

728
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:51,100
the ability from where they're
located and the competition,

729
00:46:51,100 --> 00:46:54,300
they're going to be playing, I
think that's gonna going to be a

730
00:46:54,300 --> 00:46:56,000
big thing for them.
All right.

731
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,700
I'm going to give you this one
and it's going to shock you.

732
00:47:00,700 --> 00:47:02,600
I'm interested to see what
happens in Tulsa.

733
00:47:07,100 --> 00:47:10,600
Because I'm kind of interested
to see if they are.

734
00:47:10,700 --> 00:47:14,500
Certain certainly coach, that
could be remain nameless.

735
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,100
Gets that job.
Y'all know?

736
00:47:16,100 --> 00:47:19,400
I'm told that I am interested to
see if they will hire him to

737
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:23,600
essentially come where he grew
up to coach a football team that

738
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,800
really had been a solid meal
program in the last three or

739
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:30,800
four years had really went
downhill, under Philip

740
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:34,400
Montgomery, you know I'm
interested for that one.

741
00:47:34,700 --> 00:47:37,100
What's your one?
Be just because I got a I got to

742
00:47:37,100 --> 00:47:41,800
do a 1 b 2 but I want to see
what happens with Colorado.

743
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:46,700
Alright alright I think that's
an interesting because they've

744
00:47:46,700 --> 00:47:51,500
shown that that's a program
that's kind of highs lows.

745
00:47:51,500 --> 00:47:54,700
Sometimes in the like you can
never really know what to expect

746
00:47:54,700 --> 00:47:58,100
with them making this.
They can get on a they can get

747
00:47:58,100 --> 00:48:00,900
on the run with the right
combination of recruiting and

748
00:48:00,900 --> 00:48:04,300
coaching where they can play
with any team in that

749
00:48:04,300 --> 00:48:06,100
conference.
And then they can also look like

750
00:48:06,100 --> 00:48:08,800
absolute dog.
It there's just I mean it's all

751
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,400
over the place.
So I feel like who they bring in

752
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,300
is going to, can they bring some
consistency is consistently what

753
00:48:14,300 --> 00:48:15,800
they want?
Or are they found with the boom

754
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:20,900
and bust and looking like a team
that could, you know, Challenge

755
00:48:20,900 --> 00:48:24,600
Oregon or USC, one year?
And then looking like two years

756
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:28,100
later, look like a complete
dumpster fire couldn't get out

757
00:48:28,100 --> 00:48:30,500
of a paper bag.
Wet paper bag.

758
00:48:30,700 --> 00:48:35,200
The one I'm interested in my 1,
B is Stanford, all that was

759
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:35,900
silent.
They do.

760
00:48:35,900 --> 00:48:40,500
Those are honorable They should
call Mike Elko up right off the

761
00:48:40,500 --> 00:48:42,100
bat.
Go ahead and call mykel co-op,

762
00:48:42,100 --> 00:48:44,900
you know, they're more, maybe
trying to get out grow up but

763
00:48:44,900 --> 00:48:56,900
ACC already get him out of here.
We saw it with, you know, you go

764
00:48:56,900 --> 00:49:00,400
through the years with you.
Whether it's Spurrier or

765
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,200
cutcliffe.
If you get to good coach, they

766
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,700
may not win 10 games every year,
but they're gonna be a goddamn

767
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,000
Thorn in your side.
Come definitely.

768
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,300
All right, one last thing before
we head to break here, Brian.

769
00:49:13,300 --> 00:49:16,100
I'm really cool to see as
announced earlier this week,

770
00:49:16,100 --> 00:49:22,100
DeAngelo, Hall, D Hall, you know
dvu zone is going into the

771
00:49:22,100 --> 00:49:28,400
Virginia Sports Hall of Fame.
That's big really great honor

772
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:33,900
for him in, you know.
The guy who played close to a

773
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:39,300
13, 14 years in the league,
obviously big time player at

774
00:49:39,300 --> 00:49:43,100
Tech and now he's getting this
onerous photo of him that you

775
00:49:43,100 --> 00:49:45,300
know you look through I looked
through the day, you know

776
00:49:45,300 --> 00:49:47,400
Frank's in there Bruce Smith's
in there.

777
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:51,800
Frank Lauria Carol Dale amongst
others and probably over the

778
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:56,600
next few years probably going to
see a lot of Hokies go in there.

779
00:49:56,600 --> 00:50:00,000
Probably starting with D Hall
guys you know essentially porn

780
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:04,100
or did things in the Steak.
Yeah.

781
00:50:04,100 --> 00:50:07,800
Yeah guys that you know,
especially during the the big

782
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:11,100
run there in the 2000s, this is
kind of the one, you know, the

783
00:50:11,100 --> 00:50:13,400
start of that.
So you know, we'll see how many

784
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,000
more kind of following and D
Hall steps here with Abby.

785
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:20,200
This is the big First Step here,
so good.

786
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:25,600
Very 4D Hall, very good for him.
All right so before we get into

787
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:27,900
just a couple more things to
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788
00:50:27,900 --> 00:50:31,000
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Now back to the episode.
All right, is it Brian?

797
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,600
This is a couple more topics to
hit on tonight.

798
00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:59,600
Let's start.
First of all was announced late

799
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:01,600
this afternoon.
This was not on our docket and

800
00:51:01,700 --> 00:51:07,900
It was announced the all ACC
teams which for Virginia Tech of

801
00:51:07,900 --> 00:51:10,800
the first second, and third
teens, there were none.

802
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:14,200
Unfortunately, there were six
honorable mentions.

803
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,800
You know, I think, I think me
and you kind of agreed probably

804
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:24,300
Dax should have at least got on
one.

805
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,900
You could argue 13 for Dax for
sure you could argue hardcore,

806
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:34,300
but maybe it's just a, snapshot
of kind of where this team was

807
00:51:34,300 --> 00:51:37,900
talent-wise.
And for some folks who maybe did

808
00:51:37,900 --> 00:51:42,900
not believe the talent was,
there was a disparity there,

809
00:51:43,900 --> 00:51:48,300
this usually tells it because
you know, Usually you get at

810
00:51:48,300 --> 00:51:51,700
least a handful on the team,
regardless of your team tracker.

811
00:51:52,100 --> 00:51:55,000
Usually give it like a couple
third teamers even when you're

812
00:51:56,100 --> 00:52:01,200
in the doldrums, right.
So you know I think if Garbutt

813
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:05,700
had a played 12 games, he
probably is a third teamer as

814
00:52:05,700 --> 00:52:09,900
well.
So you know you make me ask a

815
00:52:09,908 --> 00:52:13,700
question on that one.
Obviously, you know we played

816
00:52:13,700 --> 00:52:16,700
one fewer game, you know, it's
one less day.

817
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:20,100
Appoint to put out their true
relative, the competition.

818
00:52:20,100 --> 00:52:23,000
So that has to be taken to
account and like I said, with

819
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:28,200
garbage sitting out, you know,
another to, you know, that

820
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,200
that's a pretty big and playing
hurt.

821
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,800
Honestly, for for half of those
that he did play in.

822
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:37,800
So I think Garbutt had when he
when he played, when he was

823
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,200
healthy and playing it to his
potential was definitely at

824
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:45,300
least a third teamer, but, you
know, Miss to didn't play one

825
00:52:45,300 --> 00:52:48,600
because of the cancellation.
And so that hurt him.

826
00:52:49,500 --> 00:52:53,700
Yeah, I think of Caleb had a
stronger, final two games.

827
00:52:53,700 --> 00:52:56,500
You know, he'd be in the compass
conversation, probably 413 as

828
00:52:56,500 --> 00:52:59,900
well.
Yeah, but again none and it's

829
00:52:59,900 --> 00:53:04,000
the first time I think since
night thing, David teal said

830
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:10,400
1990 32 years ago, that there
were Tech had none.

831
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,800
So, you know, we got a long ways
to go, we know that.

832
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,600
So it's going to be really
interesting how it goes and it

833
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:18,200
Tufflips to our next subject
here.

834
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:19,600
And we're going to talk about
the portal.

835
00:53:20,100 --> 00:53:24,700
And the one thing I know I got a
chance to listen to the presser

836
00:53:24,700 --> 00:53:29,500
with Brent pry.
And basically he mentioned that

837
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:33,000
between a plethora things,
they're going to be having

838
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:39,500
conversations with roughly 35 to
35 players about different

839
00:53:39,500 --> 00:53:45,900
options, they have and you know,
we know there's going to be some

840
00:53:45,900 --> 00:53:48,000
draft stuff there.
Be about guys, if they should

841
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:52,700
come back into the portal and we
kind of already, I think we

842
00:53:52,700 --> 00:53:56,400
figured out there was one
already taken place before the

843
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,800
end of the day Monday and that
is DJ Harvey.

844
00:54:00,700 --> 00:54:02,600
You know, the four star kid out
of California.

845
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,600
Cornerback has already put his
name in the portal.

846
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:10,800
Yeah, we saw his role diminish
to close out the year.

847
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:15,500
Some of that was how well
delaying came on, in the back

848
00:54:15,500 --> 00:54:19,700
half of the season.
I think some of that was, you

849
00:54:19,700 --> 00:54:22,900
know, some of the things that
Tucker was doing in practice

850
00:54:22,900 --> 00:54:27,300
that, you know, looking at that
role as best punt returner.

851
00:54:27,300 --> 00:54:29,100
So it was just a combination of
factors.

852
00:54:29,100 --> 00:54:31,900
And, you know, DJ Harvey's, a
talented kid.

853
00:54:31,900 --> 00:54:34,900
I know he's going to land
somewhere and and make a splash,

854
00:54:34,900 --> 00:54:38,400
but you look like, just how the,
how the things were trending.

855
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:42,800
You know, staying sticking with
the Hokies probably wasn't going

856
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,400
to be his best opportunity to
see the field a lot.

857
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:49,600
Come next year. 100% again
sometimes you've got that you're

858
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,600
going to see kids that they got
to do what's best for them to

859
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:56,200
get on the field and sometimes
that writing is on the wall.

860
00:54:56,200 --> 00:55:01,300
And it's, you know, and I'm sure
you'll have some kids that will

861
00:55:01,300 --> 00:55:02,500
say, you know, I'm going to
stay.

862
00:55:02,500 --> 00:55:06,900
I think I can beat these guys.
I know don't don't talk to coach

863
00:55:06,900 --> 00:55:08,500
Robbie.
Confident about this.

864
00:55:08,500 --> 00:55:10,800
It fires him up.
Every time a kid enters the

865
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:17,000
portal.
But we sit here and it Has her

866
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,200
death.
It hurts step for the love of

867
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:24,500
solutely ever looked up a little
bit, but again, you're talking

868
00:55:24,500 --> 00:55:28,600
about a kid that is legitimately
across country from family and

869
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:31,900
it's one of those things where
how tough is it to say?

870
00:55:31,900 --> 00:55:34,700
Well, I'm really going to be
fighting to get into the too

871
00:55:34,700 --> 00:55:38,900
deep next year.
Yeah.

872
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,400
It's he's essentially scrapping
to keep a spot somewhere in the

873
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:48,800
2D, even if you have the
attrition of of Chapman, right?

874
00:55:49,100 --> 00:55:54,600
So that's kind of the situation
he was looking at and then

875
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:58,100
you've got a big class of dbe's
coming in as well.

876
00:55:58,100 --> 00:56:02,900
This year, they class and you we
see we saw Mansoor already.

877
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:08,600
We saw cam Johnson play.
Yeah, the other piece is now And

878
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:10,000
maybe this is one of the
factors.

879
00:56:10,100 --> 00:56:12,400
Dorian strong technically.
Got a red shirt this year.

880
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:17,900
Yeah, so Dorian strong will not
be out after next year.

881
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:20,600
He has potentially two years of
Eligibility.

882
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,300
That is that something that
shaped the decision as well?

883
00:56:23,500 --> 00:56:26,000
There's so many things and you
know, you don't want to

884
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,500
speculate but you just kind of
try to read the tea leaves.

885
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,100
You know, any, all these kids
are going to be entering the

886
00:56:31,100 --> 00:56:34,100
portal and leaving Tech, you
know, you tip your hat and you

887
00:56:34,100 --> 00:56:37,600
hope the best for them.
Absolutely what happens?

888
00:56:37,900 --> 00:56:39,700
Yeah.
I mean you know when we say one

889
00:56:39,700 --> 00:56:43,000
so he always a hokie that's
that's truly what it's about.

890
00:56:44,500 --> 00:56:47,800
So I mean we wish DJ nothing but
the best hopefully lands on his

891
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:51,600
feet somewhere that can can
maximize his talents and give

892
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:57,300
him the opportunity to shine.
It's 100% And I saw something I

893
00:56:57,300 --> 00:57:01,700
lost the Tweet just a few
minutes ago, but one of Norfolk

894
00:57:01,700 --> 00:57:07,900
State's coaches put out there
like essentially, in the lashes

895
00:57:07,900 --> 00:57:13,700
hand Full of days, close to
2,000 players and all levels

896
00:57:13,900 --> 00:57:19,300
have entered the portal.
That's wild to think that many

897
00:57:19,300 --> 00:57:24,200
people have entered the portal
in just, this short amount of

898
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:26,100
time as the season is wrapping
up.

899
00:57:26,100 --> 00:57:30,700
And, you know, it's one of those
things for live, those kids.

900
00:57:30,700 --> 00:57:34,300
I'm hoping that the degree is in
hand or the degree will be in

901
00:57:34,300 --> 00:57:38,800
Hand by April, because we.
So, last year, there are a lot

902
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:43,600
of kids that did not get homes.
And when that happens, I mean,

903
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:46,500
you feel for them in a lot of
out of ways.

904
00:57:47,300 --> 00:57:51,200
But, you know, you've got to
make the right decision for you.

905
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:55,800
But, you know, sometimes, you
know, hey, you should get in the

906
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:57,500
pool.
You can you can play elsewhere

907
00:57:57,500 --> 00:58:01,500
and like reality like, you know,
you need to work on getting your

908
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:05,100
Collegiate degree.
Not necessarily don't think

909
00:58:05,100 --> 00:58:10,400
football seriously or put it s.
Yeah, but there.

910
00:58:11,700 --> 00:58:14,400
You know, you don't want to say,
don't chase your dream, but in

911
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:17,700
some ways, you've got to have
good counselors.

912
00:58:17,700 --> 00:58:22,800
And that's where you hope, he
coaches of a team are really

913
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,200
thinking about what's the best
interest of the player?

914
00:58:25,300 --> 00:58:27,000
Not, what's the best interest of
the program?

915
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,000
Because so many people get
screwed.

916
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:32,800
Yeah, I think you see a lot of
problems with players trying to

917
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:36,900
make lateral or quasi lateral
moves, right?

918
00:58:36,900 --> 00:58:42,300
So guys that are like dropping
down a division or a level Tend

919
00:58:42,300 --> 00:58:45,400
to find a home guys that have
shown the ability to jump up a

920
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:49,000
level 10 to find a home.
And then guys, kind of at the

921
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:52,300
top end that are jumping in the
portal.

922
00:58:52,700 --> 00:58:55,300
Usually find a spot on a blue
blood or a contender somebody

923
00:58:55,300 --> 00:58:58,900
that's kind of in win.
Now mode, it says guys that are

924
00:58:59,300 --> 00:59:03,800
coming from a mid-tier program
and trying to go to another be a

925
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:07,600
program that often kind of slip
through the cracks, right?

926
00:59:08,500 --> 00:59:11,900
It's very true.
It's very, very true.

927
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:17,700
So again it's going to happen
more probably.

928
00:59:17,700 --> 00:59:21,200
By the time we get back in a few
weeks, which we're kind of

929
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:22,300
thinking, we're going to work
on.

930
00:59:22,300 --> 00:59:26,200
Who's gone?
Where do we need to fill other

931
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:29,900
people in the roster to fill,
but it's probably gonna be a lot

932
00:59:29,900 --> 00:59:32,000
bigger.
And maybe we have some, some

933
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:37,100
ends as well as outs during that
point in time, but we'll see but

934
00:59:37,100 --> 00:59:41,000
it is that season and I'm sure
Brian, you probably were like

935
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:43,700
me, you saw some kid, hit the
portal and you immediately went

936
00:59:43,700 --> 00:59:47,500
up and looked up his success
look like, did he play a lot?

937
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:49,900
So it's an offensive.
Lineman was it was he recruited

938
00:59:49,900 --> 00:59:56,600
previously by our current staff?
Yes, and so many ways and I'm

939
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:58,700
sure there's going to be some
that signals.

940
00:59:58,700 --> 01:00:01,800
And some tea leaves out there is
this goes on for the next few

941
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,000
weeks.
Yeah, I'm looking forward to it

942
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:08,000
because we kind of get a little
bit of a bump on the, on the

943
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:11,000
recruiting front from a portal.
Spective just as we kind of go

944
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:15,000
into, you know, early signing
day especially with early

945
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:16,600
Signing Day beat later in
December.

946
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:20,200
That normally is we get a little
bit of a, of a rise in the

947
01:00:20,207 --> 01:00:22,400
portal it, you know, ahead of
that this year.

948
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:25,000
So, that's going to be nice.
100%.

949
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:27,800
Let's go real quick brown.
Before we talk about

950
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:30,200
championship week and all the
games we're going to take a look

951
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:36,000
at here and let's talk about The
playoff rankings from about

952
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:40,100
number 15, all the way up and
Brian.

953
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,300
Let's go through this.
And let's just say if we haven't

954
01:00:43,900 --> 01:00:45,300
already.
Okay, yep.

955
01:00:45,900 --> 01:00:48,300
All right.
Number one, Georgia any issue.

956
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,900
No, I don't hear you.
Number two, Michigan, no

957
01:00:52,900 --> 01:00:54,000
problem.
No problem.

958
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:55,100
T.
See you at 3:00?

959
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,700
I'm fine with it.
I guess you could put the USC

960
01:00:58,700 --> 01:01:01,900
there and I just I'd be just as
fine with it USC.

961
01:01:01,900 --> 01:01:03,900
For I'm fine with it.
I'm more More impressed.

962
01:01:03,900 --> 01:01:07,900
U.s. see how they one Saturday
night with more of a controlled

963
01:01:07,900 --> 01:01:11,700
offense, which we have not ever
seen from Lincoln Riley.

964
01:01:12,100 --> 01:01:14,800
Usually linked, and Riley wants
to score in 90 seconds.

965
01:01:15,100 --> 01:01:18,400
Every touchdown.
They had was three minutes or

966
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:22,400
more Saturday, then later name,
which was that's impressive.

967
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:25,800
It showed that they can play a
pace of play, they will need to

968
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:27,400
play in the college football
playoff.

969
01:01:27,900 --> 01:01:30,500
Damn, right.
All right, there were five of us

970
01:01:30,500 --> 01:01:33,200
take twenty one point loss in
the horseshoe.

971
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:35,600
Worst loss in a long time there
to Michigan.

972
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:39,600
I think 86 any issue, Bill me in
five though.

973
01:01:40,300 --> 01:01:42,100
No.
Because of the teams that are

974
01:01:42,100 --> 01:01:44,000
still behind them, that we're
about to talk about her.

975
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:46,800
Hey, this is where it gets on
for Friday night here.

976
01:01:47,500 --> 01:01:49,400
Hey Brian.
Number six is Alabama.

977
01:01:49,900 --> 01:01:55,200
Back them up to what number You
got to at least put them behind

978
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:56,700
wherever the fuck.
You have Tennessee.

979
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,400
Tennessee, 7.
So they need to be eight.

980
01:02:01,300 --> 01:02:06,900
Unless you move it unless you're
moving Tennessee up, Penn State

981
01:02:06,900 --> 01:02:13,000
takes a bump goes up to number
eight, that's fine with that.

982
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:15,000
I have a little issue with this
one though.

983
01:02:15,900 --> 01:02:19,800
Um, Clemson.
Only dropped a 1 after a loss.

984
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:23,800
To number nine.
I did.

985
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:26,900
I don't get that I put them
behind K-State.

986
01:02:26,900 --> 01:02:28,600
I might even put them behind
Utah.

987
01:02:29,300 --> 01:02:31,900
Yeah, there's a couple things
they could be behind.

988
01:02:31,900 --> 01:02:34,300
I don't think you can go as low
as we're gonna look at FSU.

989
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:40,100
But Dem only dropping one, just
kind of just a follow me.

990
01:02:40,700 --> 01:02:46,800
Kansas State, 10 new issue there
be two solid, Kansas team the

991
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:48,600
next to where I kind of have an
issue.

992
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:52,800
So, Utah beat the absolute dog
crap out of Colorado.

993
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:58,500
Like Everybody has this year and
they moved up three spots.

994
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:05,500
Washington beat a better
Washington State team and Utah's

995
01:03:05,500 --> 01:03:09,800
11 Washington's.
Now 12 Washington moved up one

996
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:16,300
spot I don't get that
whatsoever.

997
01:03:16,300 --> 01:03:18,900
I know, Utah's will be playing
the championship game.

998
01:03:18,900 --> 01:03:22,500
I feel like that's the only
reason is there, you know?

999
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:25,200
Basically, trying to get it, the
highest matchup possible.

1000
01:03:25,900 --> 01:03:34,200
All right, last three here,
Florida State at 13 LSU at 14.

1001
01:03:35,500 --> 01:03:39,100
And this is really great story.
Oregon State at 15.

1002
01:03:39,900 --> 01:03:43,800
What we talked about last week?
Brian, that in the future, when

1003
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:46,900
there are teams were right
there, right there.

1004
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:50,600
Hey listen, beat your rival,
your likely in the playoff.

1005
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:55,200
Yep.
That happened at Oregon, State's

1006
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:59,100
on field, they knock off organ,
organs out of the Pac-12

1007
01:03:59,100 --> 01:04:03,100
championship and if this was a
12 team playoff, they're gone,

1008
01:04:03,100 --> 01:04:04,600
they're done.
Yep.

1009
01:04:05,300 --> 01:04:09,400
And why those games are going to
matter more and I think two lane

1010
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:13,700
is now 17 to laying on a cusp of
getting, it's either going to be

1011
01:04:13,700 --> 01:04:17,500
them for UCF to get a new year 6
volt.

1012
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:22,200
So they're those rankings and
again, again, I just look

1013
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:27,600
through it. names of 12, every
time and You throw two lane in

1014
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:31,900
there would be two lane Georgia.
Michigan, TCU USC and Clemson,

1015
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:35,500
leaving, Ohio state, Alabama,
Tennessee, Penn State, Kansas

1016
01:04:35,500 --> 01:04:38,700
State, and probably Washington,
or FS.

1017
01:04:38,700 --> 01:04:43,100
You would sneak in the back door
in Twilight.

1018
01:04:43,100 --> 01:04:44,800
Last week's going to be
important to buy this week's

1019
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:47,300
going to be important and let's
turn on the big screeners Brian

1020
01:04:47,300 --> 01:04:49,200
and wrap this episode up
tonight.

1021
01:04:49,700 --> 01:04:53,800
Ten Championship Games starting
Friday night running through

1022
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:58,300
Saturday Saturday.
Could be one of those days where

1023
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:02,100
if you're going to do something,
do it really early after the

1024
01:05:02,100 --> 01:05:06,200
United States, win over Iran
today and going to the group of

1025
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:09,200
what is not group league.
Knockout play knockout knockout

1026
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:16,600
stage for the first time in 28
years, it was in the states and

1027
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:27,900
they're playing Dutch.
On Saturday morning at 9:00.

1028
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:33,300
Yeah, so that game backed up by
a bunch of Championship Games by

1029
01:05:33,300 --> 01:05:37,800
Friday night games.
If you have Christmas shopping

1030
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:40,200
to do, you might want to wait
till Sunday.

1031
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:44,700
Just saying, folks, just saying,
well, let's start it here,

1032
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:48,000
Friday night.
The first one is going to the

1033
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:50,200
conference USA championship to
Texas.

1034
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:54,300
Teen North Texas vs UTSA.
The line is eight and a half,

1035
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:56,100
choose a lie.
Line, choose a winner, choose,

1036
01:05:56,100 --> 01:05:58,000
whatever you got from.
Will you think on this?

1037
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:09,500
I'm going to go.
I think I'm going to go with UT

1038
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:13,600
San Antonio here I'm with you
too.

1039
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:17,200
I feel like that program in the
last few years it's just they're

1040
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:21,700
just consistent just being a
consistent program they have a

1041
01:06:21,707 --> 01:06:24,500
thing as an old.
Texas high school football, head

1042
01:06:24,500 --> 01:06:29,600
coach down there.
I'm with you on that one.

1043
01:06:30,900 --> 01:06:32,300
I don't know enough about the
spread.

1044
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:33,800
I ain't there.
Been that one.

1045
01:06:34,300 --> 01:06:37,700
Yeah I'm going money line here.
Honey, why don't lie?

1046
01:06:38,100 --> 01:06:45,200
All right, Friday night Pack 12
Championship, Utah versus USC.

1047
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:49,100
USC took a while to find the
been line on this one because

1048
01:06:49,100 --> 01:06:50,700
you talked about a few injured
players.

1049
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:58,000
USC only a 3 point favorite in
this game and I'm sitting here

1050
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:01,400
I'll watch that first game
beginning to end and it was a

1051
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:05,000
classic and again the only
reason Utah.

1052
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:08,800
One is add the stones to go for
two point conversion late in the

1053
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:11,800
game.
Yep I think this one's going to

1054
01:07:11,808 --> 01:07:15,500
be a little bit different.
I think USC's going to win this

1055
01:07:15,500 --> 01:07:17,000
one.
I think they're going to not

1056
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:19,400
Sicily when it handily I think
they're going to keep you taught

1057
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:22,100
at an arm's length somewhere
between 7 and 10 points.

1058
01:07:22,100 --> 01:07:27,500
The entire game similar to Notre
Dame and you talk is similar to

1059
01:07:27,500 --> 01:07:28,800
Notre Dame.
They like to run it.

1060
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:36,700
They like to play good defense,
I'm going to say, USC 34?

1061
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:43,500
You talk 27, I like you as see
to win.

1062
01:07:43,500 --> 01:07:50,300
And cover this one, I think that
this USC team Now is better

1063
01:07:50,300 --> 01:07:53,600
equipped to handle this game
than they were the last go-round

1064
01:07:54,700 --> 01:07:57,900
between what we saw against
Notre, Dame, how they've kind of

1065
01:07:57,908 --> 01:08:02,100
closed out the season.
I think it's going to be, I

1066
01:08:02,100 --> 01:08:04,700
think your background, I'm going
3124.

1067
01:08:04,700 --> 01:08:06,600
So I think that it's a full
touch down there.

1068
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:11,400
Alrighty, so that wraps up
Friday, night's game.

1069
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:14,300
There's only two.
We should be three, but that is

1070
01:08:14,300 --> 01:08:17,500
what it is.
All right, the max in, on

1071
01:08:17,500 --> 01:08:22,500
Saturday afternoon, it's one of
the twelve o'clock kicks Toledo

1072
01:08:22,500 --> 01:08:26,100
versus Ohio Toledo, a one and a
half Point favorite, who do you

1073
01:08:26,100 --> 01:08:27,100
got on this one?
Braun?

1074
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:32,200
Man, I have not watched enough,
my action this year to have a

1075
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:35,200
great feel about this, but I'm
gonna, I'm gonna go with Toledo.

1076
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:39,700
It's our own fault.
Do we do Tuesday night time?

1077
01:08:39,700 --> 01:08:43,200
This while we're talking, it's
our own fault, we're sabotaging

1078
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:45,600
ourselves.
We are man, we missed out on the

1079
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:49,600
Max and every, every, every game
and every game, right?

1080
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:51,700
You said Toledo?
Yeah, I'm going to lead.

1081
01:08:51,700 --> 01:08:55,399
Oh, I'm going not so fast.
My friend, I will take those

1082
01:08:55,399 --> 01:08:58,600
points.
I think Ohio wins this game.

1083
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:05,200
Ohio, 7 and 1 in conference
nine, and three overall, and you

1084
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:09,899
know, their losses this year or
Penn State, Iowa State and Kent

1085
01:09:09,899 --> 01:09:17,500
State, And they're currently own
a seven-game winning streak.

1086
01:09:17,500 --> 01:09:22,399
So give me a Ohio to when that
one's alright.

1087
01:09:22,500 --> 01:09:27,800
The other big time 12:00 game is
the Big 12 and it's going to be

1088
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:34,500
K State vs TCU TCU Aslam slit
them, two and a half Point

1089
01:09:34,500 --> 01:09:36,800
favorite.
And, you know, if we take a look

1090
01:09:36,899 --> 01:09:41,100
earlier this year, obviously,
the Big 12, Everybody Plays,

1091
01:09:41,100 --> 01:09:46,200
everybody obviously TCU one that
meeting earlier in the year and

1092
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:48,600
tc1 that meeting early in the
year.

1093
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:52,700
Well, the, you know, pretty
pretty balanced game.

1094
01:09:52,700 --> 01:09:56,600
They won about 10 points.
The game wasn't Fort Worth this

1095
01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:59,800
game is in Dallas.
So, you know, a pseudo home

1096
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:02,400
field advantage there.
For TCU.

1097
01:10:07,700 --> 01:10:12,300
The two and a half scares me
because Kansas takes that type

1098
01:10:12,300 --> 01:10:18,100
of team that can grind right.
And I still worry about TCU

1099
01:10:18,100 --> 01:10:23,500
getting them to grind Fest.
But I think from TC what we've

1100
01:10:23,500 --> 01:10:29,300
seen all years, they answer I'll
lay the two and a half, I'll

1101
01:10:29,300 --> 01:10:35,000
take TCU to lock up a playoff.
Yeah, I think TCU is going to

1102
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:40,300
lock this up, pretty handily.
I don't think it's going to be a

1103
01:10:40,308 --> 01:10:43,600
10-point game, but I think it's
going to be a touchdown or more

1104
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:47,700
game.
So, okay, I like TCU in this one

1105
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:54,700
again, I think the between the
de facto home game, the fact

1106
01:10:54,700 --> 01:10:58,300
that they've, I think they got
Their best shot from K-State

1107
01:10:58,300 --> 01:11:00,400
last time.
I think they take care of

1108
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:05,800
business and just kind of
knowing how that first game went

1109
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:11,200
is TC was down 11 and a half, it
was 2817, they shut out.

1110
01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:15,100
Kansas State in the second half
and then proceeded to score. 21

1111
01:11:15,100 --> 01:11:17,000
unanswered, to win that game
about 10.

1112
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:20,900
So kind of one of those weird
flummox games, all right?

1113
01:11:21,500 --> 01:11:24,900
And the next one is the Sun
Belt.

1114
01:11:24,900 --> 01:11:26,800
Brian, its Coastal it's versus
true.

1115
01:11:27,100 --> 01:11:30,300
Troy is a 10-point.
Favorite Coastal.

1116
01:11:30,300 --> 01:11:33,800
Got absolutely shellacked up in
Harrisonburg last weekend.

1117
01:11:33,900 --> 01:11:39,200
Yes, they did.
I don't know the whole story

1118
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:44,000
where they playing everybody,
the game did not matter, JM you

1119
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:50,300
could not win anything from them
and Troy's had a hell of a

1120
01:11:50,300 --> 01:11:53,100
season.
Troy's had a hell of a season in

1121
01:11:53,100 --> 01:12:02,300
the sun belt, Troy's 10 and 2.
Ten and two, the only losses Ole

1122
01:12:02,300 --> 01:12:09,700
Miss and app state that was
appstate early in the season 9

1123
01:12:09,700 --> 01:12:11,600
of a trucking.
Yeah, when they were old truck,

1124
01:12:12,300 --> 01:12:16,600
do you got man Troy always
sneaks up on people.

1125
01:12:18,900 --> 01:12:21,200
That's I feel like that, that's
what happens.

1126
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:26,400
I'm going to take Troy, I'm
going to take Troy and the

1127
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:35,000
points, okay?
Um, I feel like Tim's just too

1128
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:37,800
big too late Coastal ale to
Coast.

1129
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:44,300
So I know this game is I believe
it is down in Troy and you know,

1130
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:48,600
it's just one of those that
shellacking doesn't Write to me,

1131
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:51,900
Coastal doesn't play like that
you know, coastal's one of those

1132
01:12:51,900 --> 01:12:54,500
teams that can hang with just
about anybody in the country and

1133
01:12:54,500 --> 01:12:57,100
to tell me they got just
absolutely pounded.

1134
01:12:57,400 --> 01:12:59,400
I don't get it.
Maybe she's just playing the

1135
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:02,400
state of Virginia team because
they got pounded two times this

1136
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:05,700
year both by the state of
Virginia I think Troy wins.

1137
01:13:05,700 --> 01:13:08,200
I think it's closer.
I think it's close enough to

1138
01:13:08,208 --> 01:13:10,100
where I'll take ten and Coastal
Carolina.

1139
01:13:11,700 --> 01:13:14,600
All right, Mountain West
Conference.

1140
01:13:14,700 --> 01:13:20,000
Fresno State vs Boise.
I have not watched any Mountain

1141
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:22,300
West this year.
I'm going to be just very

1142
01:13:22,300 --> 01:13:25,600
honest, no Mountain, West
whatsoever.

1143
01:13:26,100 --> 01:13:31,700
So I'm just going to throw a
shot in the dark and say Boise

1144
01:13:31,700 --> 01:13:39,200
later points.
When in doubt, pick Boise, that

1145
01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:41,100
that's a good philosophy.
I'm going to take it here.

1146
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:45,000
We're both taking Boise.
All right, let's get to these

1147
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:49,800
afternoon games, the AAC.
UCF versus two lane to Lane a

1148
01:13:49,808 --> 01:13:53,900
three-point favorite.
What you think on this one?

1149
01:13:53,900 --> 01:13:56,500
Brian Gus Malzahn versus Willie
Fritz.

1150
01:13:56,500 --> 01:13:58,400
I think it's going to be down in
the sugar.

1151
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:04,700
Don't, when the Sugar Dome in
the Superdome we got so, if

1152
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:09,200
Fritz would have been at Georgia
Tech out of absolutely taking

1153
01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:14,500
UCF here but since that Chatters
off the table, I'm going to ride

1154
01:14:14,500 --> 01:14:18,100
the Tulane wave.
He's keeps riding the wavy, he's

1155
01:14:18,100 --> 01:14:21,000
riding that wave, and I'm riding
with you this time.

1156
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:24,000
So it's either going to go down
in flames or riding it together.

1157
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:29,300
Tulane lay the points.
I think it's going to be a good

1158
01:14:29,300 --> 01:14:32,600
game though.
I think those two offenses, make

1159
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:35,900
it interesting and maybe two
lanes playing in the Sugar Bowl

1160
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:41,600
in their home stadium, and just
a few short weeks here, all

1161
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:46,300
right Ron SEC Championship LSU
versus Georgia.

1162
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:49,500
Georgia.
All but locked in, regardless,

1163
01:14:49,500 --> 01:14:54,400
what happens in this game?
That they are a 17 and a half

1164
01:14:54,400 --> 01:15:00,900
Point favorite LSU, just got who
traced down at the, you know,

1165
01:15:01,300 --> 01:15:07,500
the 100 million dollars, man,
house with Jimbo.

1166
01:15:07,900 --> 01:15:14,700
What do you think on this one?
You know what, I like Georgia to

1167
01:15:14,700 --> 01:15:18,300
win this one.
It's at 17 and a half is given

1168
01:15:18,300 --> 01:15:21,900
me pause.
I think it's a little too rich

1169
01:15:21,900 --> 01:15:27,700
for my blood, so if it was money
line, I'm taking Georgia but

1170
01:15:27,700 --> 01:15:29,300
I'll take LSU against the
spread.

1171
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:40,100
All right.
This is a tough one because that

1172
01:15:40,100 --> 01:15:46,000
is a lot of lot of points.
A lot of points to just lay.

1173
01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:52,500
And we've seen that lets you
keep up, but also, I didn't get

1174
01:15:52,500 --> 01:15:54,400
to watch that game.
I couldn't tell you how it took

1175
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:58,400
place, but I remember walking
back into the man cave on

1176
01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:03,400
Saturday night and looking over
at the A&M LSU game in wondering

1177
01:16:03,900 --> 01:16:06,100
how the hell are they losing
them by 17?

1178
01:16:06,300 --> 01:16:09,300
If you told me that was a 3
years, Seven-point game, I get

1179
01:16:09,300 --> 01:16:10,800
it.
Jimbo got his guys up.

1180
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:13,900
The crowd went crazy, it
affected LSU, they were looking

1181
01:16:13,900 --> 01:16:20,700
forward but I don't, I'm gonna
actually take Georgia and lay

1182
01:16:20,700 --> 01:16:22,900
the points.
I think they lay a freaking ass

1183
01:16:22,900 --> 01:16:29,000
whipping on LSU.
Okay, maybe don't like 4221, I

1184
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:32,300
really do.
All right, two more games here

1185
01:16:32,300 --> 01:16:35,400
Brown.
The next is Big Ten, the Big Ten

1186
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:41,200
wheel of Destiny, the West,
which seriously I think the Big

1187
01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:45,200
Ten West may have been worse
than the coastal this year, in

1188
01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:48,600
all seriousness.
There wasn't a good team out

1189
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:52,700
there and that's Purdue takes on
Michigan at 16 and a half.

1190
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:54,800
Michigan coming off the blowout
win.

1191
01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:57,900
I mean produce, always got a
good offense but the way

1192
01:16:57,900 --> 01:17:00,100
Michigan's lines are playing
right now.

1193
01:17:00,100 --> 01:17:03,600
Give me Michigan.
If this thing was 20 at Lake 20,

1194
01:17:04,100 --> 01:17:07,400
give me Michigan.
The line is 16 and a half.

1195
01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:11,200
Yeah, I'm taking Michigan all
the way here.

1196
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:13,000
I don't think this one's really
close.

1197
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:16,600
Michigan is hit a different
level than I thought they could

1198
01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:21,700
reach this year and we'll see if
they can continue writing that

1199
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:24,900
going forward, but I don't think
there's any reason.

1200
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:27,700
Reason to bet against them right
now, after what we saw the new

1201
01:17:27,700 --> 01:17:30,000
to Ohio State, not at all.
All right.

1202
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:34,700
Last one here obviously, the ACC
Championship where UNC takes on.

1203
01:17:34,700 --> 01:17:37,700
Clemson.
Clemson is a seven and a half

1204
01:17:37,700 --> 01:17:39,900
Point favorite.
Brian, what are you thinking on

1205
01:17:39,900 --> 01:17:43,400
this one?
You know what?

1206
01:17:45,100 --> 01:17:48,500
Both of these teams kind of
limping across the Finish Line.

1207
01:17:49,900 --> 01:17:54,700
It's really a weird, weird point
to be in because I have no faith

1208
01:17:54,700 --> 01:17:58,600
in either of these teams to do
what I think they're capable of

1209
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:00,700
true.
But Clemson has the better

1210
01:18:00,700 --> 01:18:02,300
defense.
I'm taking Clemson.

1211
01:18:03,100 --> 01:18:05,300
All right, you're right.
Clemson does have the better

1212
01:18:05,300 --> 01:18:10,400
defense, but it gave up some
points last week and the offense

1213
01:18:10,500 --> 01:18:15,900
looked discombobulated in.
I do not Think they can turn

1214
01:18:15,900 --> 01:18:19,900
that in a week and I don't think
Davos going to come off DJ

1215
01:18:19,900 --> 01:18:24,400
maybe, if he had the nerve and
go with the Freshman, I don't

1216
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:27,800
know who wins the game, but the
way these teams are both

1217
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:30,500
playing, I don't think anybody's
blowing out anybody.

1218
01:18:30,500 --> 01:18:33,500
And in that case, I'll take
Carolina, give me the points.

1219
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:36,500
I don't know who's going to win
the game, but I'll take Carolina

1220
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:40,900
fair.
All right, Brian anything break

1221
01:18:40,900 --> 01:18:45,500
in the last few minutes here.
Nothing that I think we should

1222
01:18:45,500 --> 01:18:48,800
really talk about.
I think we're clear, man.

1223
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:51,100
I think we're clear.
What in the hell?

1224
01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:57,100
Well, while I'm looking at that,
that is going to wrap up this

1225
01:18:57,100 --> 01:19:00,300
episode of The Boundary Corner
podcast.

1226
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:03,300
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1227
01:19:05,300 --> 01:19:08,800
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1244
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