Your boys Curtis and Brian are joined this week by football coach, camp evaluator, and good friend Coach Robert Compton. Robbie sat down with us to discuss the role that camps play in college recruiting, how athletes are evaluated at these camps, and what parents and players can expect (and not expect) from the camp experience.

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Welcome back to the boundary
Corner podcast after surviving a

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hellacious Father's Day weekend.
My partner and I rhyme Sigler

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house.
What's up, buddy?

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I'm good man, I'm good man.
I heard you were, you were

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grinding out there over the
weekend, whole golf, everything,

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who with the kids, and I just
pull like sitting poolside

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hanging out having a beer pool
with the kids, which was a ton

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of fun and What did the golf
course yesterday?

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Just hit some balls and has.
I'm leaving.

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My brother all rolls up says,
hey, I'm here to Buddy and his

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pops.
You want to join me.

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The four Why don't you say no to
that?

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They say no to that?
Well, that's you, man.

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It was a pretty was pretty fun
weekend.

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We just kind of we hung around
here on on Saturday.

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And then on Father's Day,
actually had a neighbor

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headache, his daughter's
birthday party.

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So I went over there, there was
a ax throwing at the, the kid's

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birthday party.
So I was I was I was doing the

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axe throwing while the kids were
like on the water slides.

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And then we came back here and
had a cookout with some of the

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parents came over so pretty
solid weekend.

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Awesome, man.
Awesome.

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Well, tonight, folks, we are
bringing on a guy that we have

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mentioned.
Numerous times, he is a buddy of

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ours, going all the way back to
Middle School.

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Legitimately me and Brian with
the middle school, high school

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and college with this guy and he
has been in the high school

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coaching ranks for well over
right at 15 years, coached at

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Halifax County, High School down
in South, Boston Virginia our

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High School alma mater.
And then from there, went over

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to JH Rose High School down in
Greenville, North Carolina.

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Where he produced multiple NFL
Talent, multiple Collegiate

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prospects and also got a inside
view to the Camping World.

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So without further ado, Our
buddy, Robbie hambone Compton.

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Here we go.
So I'm fellows.

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How's it going buddy?
What kind of man hanging in

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there?
Didn't have quite the Father's

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Day weekend experience.
You guys had that a little

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traveling had to get back home.
You know, it's trying to trying

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to get this thing done.
One night, earlier late last

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week but my vocation didn't
allow that to happen.

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So spend a little time in which
North Carolina in the mountains

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and Receptions, not so good.
No, it's not so good.

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That's a good, you know, we try
to get it rolling on Thursday

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didn't quite get it going, but
hey, we're here tonight.

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We're having fun.
So that's all that matters.

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Damn right, well, last week, we
got together with Robbie

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because, you know, we're running
through.

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So that we should talk about
giving his getting, getting his

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Insight lining this up, and it
was good.

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Like we were like, this is going
to work.

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This is awesome.
And then, what do you say?

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Robbie earlier today, I was
probably, On the thousand chance

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they we got to talk the for
that.

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Did you actually have enough
signal even in all the stars

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aligned on Wednesday afternoon
when we sat down and had our

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little little pregame there and
then when it was time for prime

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time and didn't quite happen.
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We got, we got blocked by the
great North Wilkesboro Raceway.

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If I have my way, he's gonna
come back.

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You guys, if you have anything,
but do just gonna throw that out

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there, go check it out, bring
back a track with whoops.

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They didn't even wait, we got to
bring that thing back to its

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prominence.
Well, are they getting the

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Earnhardt?
Didn't Earnhardt dumping some

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money into it.
There there there's a bunch of

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different bunch of different
ideas right now of streams of

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Revenue that they're trying to
go in there and bring that Trap

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Back along with along with a
couple other tracks in North

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Carolina.
I don't live in North Carolina

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right now but I'm a big
supporter of those, those old

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tracks down there and the heart
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racing comes from a lot of those
tracks in North Wilkesboro and

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and Rockingham them.
They're going to do some things

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I think in the future to bring
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But I hope they do because I can
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kids, you know, we were
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and up those track for fun
because when they were at those

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tracks, it was some bumping and
some grinding and some racing

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and some fist fight after the
game after the racism.

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Parking lots and was thrown in
cars, all that fun stuff.

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People jumping in you know kind
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of South Boston Speedway.
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Oh yeah, yeah, I'll be there.
All the third boys will be there

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which I was I don't think I'm
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right on again I figured might
as well throw it in there.

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You're not going to find.
I'm on a Virginia Tech podcast,

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you're not going to find a
bigger support of Virginia Tech

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and Jeff Burton.
Jab and water are two of the

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biggest proponents and trying to
bring that track back along with

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Rockingham.
So I'll do what I can to help

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them out.
Try to put that word out a

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little bit.
Good stuff.

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Definitely put the word out
there, get the original NASCAR

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tracks back to maybe bring some
people back to the sport of

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watching it.
So yeah.

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So Robbie obviously we hit you
up a couple months ago and

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started talking to you about
camps and obviously June 1, the

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Dead period finally ended in
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Be all over this country opened
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Can see not one or two.
I think what Virginia Tech has

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still.
Got more going on this week.

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Oh, absolutely.
So many camps.

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So as we started talking me and
Brian kind of we hit up, Robbie

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one day.
We're all like on, you know,

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Skype and we're chatting.
And next thing, you know, like

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an hour had went by.
We're just chatting up the

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stuff.
And it's like, oh, we got an

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episode.
We got an episode.

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We gotta do this.
We gotta bring our boy on.

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We gotta talk to him about it.
So what we're going to start

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with folks is you see these
camps, right?

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Robbie you.
You see guys saying going to the

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camp, going to the camp.
Yep.

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And then as we started talking
to Robbie well how the hell do

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you?
How do you get involved into two

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camps?
The these camps you'll see These

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camps especially here in the
last few years you get Flyers

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you get you can see driving back
the other day from Wilkesboro I

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noticed on one of the have to
digital boards.

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Now it can image changes, there
was one up there, coming outside

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of Greensboro, I think it was
for UNC, of course, it says,

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Matt Brown is back.
Last time I checked Mack Brown,

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been back three or four years.
Graham is back.

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Check out his football kill
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Yeah, they've got all these
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the billboard out there.
Yeah, I mean so the camps are

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huge, they're pushing these
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many ways with these camps
nowadays, the, the, the big

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thing Of course as coaches,
these colleges and things have

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these camps.
They put these camps on and

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they'll send mail out flyers and
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Okay.
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Carolina is huge from all the
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All the other colleges they send
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different high schools and then
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The coaches can post them in
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or whatnot, then the kids can
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one of those mailers that has a
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It says, for prospects, see such
and such.com, you know, Virginia

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Tech or however they wherever
their campsite comes zup and the

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the athletes can go in there and
it'll bring up a questionnaire

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and they can fill out things for
the questionnaire to put their

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information in as a prospect.
And once they do that, they'll

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get they'll get tons of
information from those schools.

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At the prospect they'll get
mailers about camps.

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They'll get Flyers about, you
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mailings from the college, has a
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Get that confused with
recruiting those things and you

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know you're going to get the
information that they want you

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to get.
It's going to promote them.

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It's going to look the best they
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information comes to those
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I mean you can put that in there
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thing and you can get right to
that campsite find it.

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Sign up.
You can pay your dues, they'll

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link to hotels and stuff in the
area and they'll get you hooked

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right up and right into that
camp of ready to go, man. so now

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but I think you, you ask this
the other week about is that the

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only way No, that's not the only
way you have I say, you know, I

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went to the recruiting part now
there's players, typically your

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bigger schools, your power, five
schools, things like that.

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They're looking for students in
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Looking for those athletes in
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grade year going into their
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Okay.
Now when those prospects are

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there and that 10th and 11th
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prospects you're hearing about
them and and all these

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recruiting bases and all those
things like that, those coaches

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and those recruiters know who
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And they're talking to those
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you know, these were the days of
our camps and all of these, all

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of these schools are going to
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If you see the Flyers, you see
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Thursday, Friday, Saturday.
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camps.
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afternoon, they might have the
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They may have a teen camp, then
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cancers, not just the individual
camp, but they have all

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different kinds and they go
through things like that and

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they'll find they'll find those
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that those kids get You know,
get those Camp dates there and

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you're going to get those kids
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So, I mean, you you're going to
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situations where some of these
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they want them there on campus
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visit.
They can get them bad without

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they can waive.
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They give scholarships or, or
vouchers for the cost of the

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camp.
If, you know, if the athlete has

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issues paying for the camp
things, like, That but if if

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they're recruiting that kid and
they need their kid to be seen

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in front of their coaches, that
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They're going to get them there
while we're on that.

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I know you kind of talked about
you know the different types of

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camps under Thursday, Friday
Saturday and some are on

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different days.
Let's just run through the

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different types of camps that
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universities.
Oh yeah, the different kinds of

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camps.
I mean you've got your going to

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use, you'll see.
A stitches.

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Like I said, individual schools
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You'll have safe, Virginia Tech,
or you NC NC State.

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They're going to have a camp and
you're going to see it.

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Nine times out of 10.
It's going to be sponsored by

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their head coach.
Yeah, it'll be it'll be Dave

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during football camps dot
llc.com, or, or however it goes.

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And that nature.
I'm not out trying to promote

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any of them.
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It's lights are but generally
they're there ran by a limited

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liability company from the
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Not from the University.
And I'm sure that holding say a

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thing behind all of that, I'm
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So, that's run essentially, by
the coaches, LLC of, they're

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essentially leasing The Examiner
resting spent leasing the

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facility and things from, from
the University.

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Yep.
And the old way they used to do

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it as they did.
A lot of that with so that they

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could hire coaches and things
like that to come in and help

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with the camps and do some
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That's how I got involved.
With a lot of them, I worked

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several Camp.
I work camps to a dude.

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You wouldn't see a bunch of NC
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I work some of these.
See you I actually did a couple

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of things that for jigna Tech
years ago, but that wouldn't I

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wouldn't paid for that.
I just took a kid there, they

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found out.
I was in the coach so they had

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me help with a few little things
just because they knew I had

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some it had some experience.
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Last quick question and this is
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pieces.
So when you're saying they ran

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by an LLC or the coaches, LLC
your some you're talking about

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scholarships.
So essentially If you have a

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player right now that they want
the kid doesn't have $200 to

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kid.
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Essentially they're just saying,
hey Robbie, you just get him up

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here, he will take care of the
payment don't worry, they're not

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gonna, they're not going to
provide a place to stay.

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Okay.
Him like that.

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But, you know, they can, they
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camp.
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Okay.
And I think that's a lot where a

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lot of the thing comes from
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and that's just my opinion in my
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Yeah, when it comes to dealing
with the NCAA, I don't know that

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you'll ever get a straight
answer.

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Exactly how that runs.
But but I mean, I just wanted

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this one of those fun gray areas
at the NCAA, has I think that's

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a big part of it, but they do.
They're going to get this kids,

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they're those prospects there.
They really like they're going

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to get them there and they're
gonna find wait now.

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Yeah, something something I
heard it was mentioned JC price.

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Who just got hired for Marshall
over to Tech obviously Lon Not

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everything.
He mentioned numerous times by,

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I think me.
And you talked about this

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probably a couple months ago, he
was consistently mentioned in

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date, Justin him to mention to
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Oh yeah.
When Marshall was up here.

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Yeah.
What are those?

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What are, you know, just just
like you have those individual

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team camps.
You'll see especially in those

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individual camps, you'll get
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You know, the big names, they'll
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I mean, that's how it works.
Yeah, you know, the bigger.

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The name to figure the
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and they'll also draw more
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So you get a you get a lot of
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I remember work going to several
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couple recruits we had from
Halifax every time I went, they

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are, you could always count on a
representative or coach

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somewhere from JMU being their
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One of them I think, at the time
with J mu that was at several of

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those.
But they, they have, they have

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schools locally that have ties
in to them, whether their

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coaches played or watch coach.
Did that school or coach with

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that coaching another school,
things of that nature.

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So, we're going to see in is,
you know, you've got these

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top-end prospects, but you've
also got some smaller kids, and

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maybe hadn't been noticed yet,
but some of these smaller

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schools can get in and see it
that camp because they're coming

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to Virginia Tech's camp and may
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He's Camp.
Okay, you may see your school

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like like Bridgewater or via my
Washington and Lee may have

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somebody in some of those
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they're closer, you know, small
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something like that.
They can pick up prospects that

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way to by, seeing them at camp
and picking things up and that's

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a lot of does.
It does individual team can't.

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Okay.
Now, the biggest Trend now, you

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get a lot of likes.
I'd like camps and these big

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Mega camps where you might get a
group of two or three coaches

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hosting this huge thing, and it
turns into like a regional Camp.

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So you've got two or three
colleges, they're big in North

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Carolina UNC, Charlotte North
Carolina, A&T will hold one, and

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then they'll have all of the
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You'll have schools like Penn
State, Michigan, that come Min

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and look at things like that,
school from far away.

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And I think what a lot of that
is doing is if they're bringing

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these prospects that are having
trouble getting 1,500 miles

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from, you know, Central North
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Now they can come to these camps
because they've been invited to

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these like camps and they can
see prospects in regions that

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maybe that would take way too
much to get them up there

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outside of their normal
footprint.

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Yeah.
There's there's one thing to

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hold $85 camp and say, hey, I
can way that I can take care of

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$85, we could have been, but you
got to get here.

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It's a lot easier to drive two
hours from the coast of North

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Carolina in the Raleigh, and
then get back afterwards, rather

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than it is, they will waive your
your $85 can't fee and Ann Arbor

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Michigan, but you got to figure
out how to get 1,500 miles up

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here and back.
That's a little bit different

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story.
So, that's where those those

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bigger kids come in, like that.
Sure.

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Did you have those the Nike
Elite, the VTO camps and things

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like that there?
Bragging rights measuring stick

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camps.
You know they're going to give

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you pure numbers.
You know you'll have some

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coaches and stuff there but nine
times out of ten, they're held

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sometime when you're recruiting
period is as so-called closed

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getting 40 times and and and
vertical jumps and all those

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kinds of scores.
They're looking at those things

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and it's a way to kind of
compare athletes so that kind of

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camp.
A little bit different, but some

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of them still some of the things
still apply, there is you'll get

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kids coming in there that are
invited.

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They are and not paying to get
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A lot of problems.
There's gonna be my next

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question.
I was like, how many of with the

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sponsor Camp?
How many of those are like

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invite only or mostly invite
only and how many are are more

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like those individual camps in
terms of if you can pay the

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money to get there?
You can go.

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Yep.
The yarn you can, you can go to

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any of them when you pay that
when you pay that fee to get

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there, okay?
Usually there are no

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restrictions as they cut off of
that age group, usually it's

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either Rising 9th graders to
Rising thin, use, things of that

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nature, but they don't typically
have six and seventh graders,

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things like that.
Now, there are pimps out there

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that will take the really young
kids.

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I myself have not a huge fan of
that, I don't understand why

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you're going to recruit a kid in
sixth grade and that's that's

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more of a basketball thing.
The whole different conversation

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they'd like to start recruiting
early before the kid ever hits a

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sudden growth spurt.
I mean, whatever.

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But I mean, it lets your a sixth
grader that can sling the ball.

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50 yards.
I'm not sure.

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Oh yeah.
But you really going to gain out

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of that, right?
Absolutely.

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You never know that that that
6:10 ready to swing the ball,

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50-yard by time.
He hits the 10th grade might be

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270 pounds and might be one hell
of a Long Snapper.

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You never know.
But now I'm trying to think

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Robbie.
I go back to a conversation with

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Kentavious.
Treat, one of your players down

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at Rose.
Obviously.

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Remember the San Francisco
49ers.

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Gee.
He go his Under Armour was that

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just the game that he go to the
camp and the game.

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He did not.
He, he went to, he went to

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several.
He went to a couple of the Nike

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VTO camps, okay?
Going on the armor Camp, okay?

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Actually, he was invited to the
Under Armour All-American Game,

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remember that?
He was also invite.

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He also went to the u.s. army
All-American coming by, and And

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was the MVP of the u.s. army
All-American combine and was

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invited to the u.s. army
All-American game, which is when

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he played in was he already on
the radar of a lot of schools or

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was when he got to that US Army
like combine where it popped

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where he was getting some
Regional attention.

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I remember we offered him stayed
offered him was that where he

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went from like a regional
Prospect I mean chemical.

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He was 96, he was in the top
100.

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Yeah, absolutely.
He was armed.

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He was on some Radars early on
in his high school career.

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And I say that because in his
ninth grade season, he was in

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Georgia.
Okay, and I played it.

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He was actually playing it,
coffee High School in Georgia.

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He was, he was playing with
another guy that's in, in the

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NFL.
I think he plays for the Chiefs

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Tyreke Hill.
Oh, really.

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I think they were written in the
same High School deal than in

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the same High School area in
court, okay?

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Yeah, they've got some they've
got some pretty good reason to

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talk about prospects there.
I would think Especially two of

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them faced off in a Super Bowl.
I don't know two years ago, but

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he had some, he had some
recruiting ideas when he came to

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us, okay?
And the thing was there was

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there was a year in there, a
year and a half a year where he

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had moved and people are just
kind of wondering where he went

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to because, you know, is trying
to find her then all of a sudden

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he started popping up at camps,
you know, up and down the East

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Coast where he was popping up
and, you know, Georgia, And

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Georgia Tech and and Ole Miss in
some areas down there.

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Then he started popping up UNC
and sea State Virginia Tech.

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You know, he started popping up
in a different area.

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People start to recognize.
Is this kid that good, that he

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that he spread that for now, but
He he started, he started in a

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different recruiting area, so
different coaches started seeing

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it, and then he hit, then he hit
that mvp and at that US Army

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game and it really took off.
I mean, coaches, the coaches do

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were recruiting him before.
Started finding out where it

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was.
You felt it coaches in the

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recruitment, being it appeared,
so that I mean, that's just,

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that's another one of those
camps, you know, he went to

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several other camps, but kept
getting them recognized.

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And he kept running up the
ladder as a higher Prospect kept

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getting invited to more chance
and that's where he ended up.

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I mean I think that year but he
graduated he was the number two

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or number three.
Defensive end in the country

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behind the Sean hand out of wood
bridge in Northern Virginia he

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ended up going to Alabama.
Can Kentavious selected go to

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n.c. state with a little bit
more of a family atmosphere and

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the thought of playing from the
beginning, which he did, he

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started off for years Yes, he
did.

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We had a bad.
A pretty solid defensive line

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when he was there, too.
When he was, he was great.

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He was a standout but they were
pretty solid across.

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Yeah, thank you.
After he was a member of four

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defensive linemen that were
drafted and the first four

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rounds of the 2018 draft.
So yeah, it worked out pretty

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well for that group of guys.
Yep, and he's still in the

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league.
Still under contract with the

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Niners, absolutely waiting for
you.

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To fly me out to a game, so we
can go to sleep.

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Hey, I'm I was all ready to go
to a game.

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Last year.
Oh yeah, we all more how that

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happened.
I had a cardboard cutout of

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myself to put the stadium out
there and make you feel like I

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was there, so Robbie.
So let's let's put a little bit.

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So we figured out what what's
going on with these camps, are

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about your player, you're a
coach, you got some players that

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are signed up for these camps.
What do they expect when they

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get there?
And when they roll into that

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camp, it's going to it's going
to be.

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I opened into some of those
individuals.

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Like I said, you're going to
you're going to have age limits

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on these camps.
A lot of them are going to be

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rising 9th graders to Rising
Juniors, okay?

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Those Rising 11th graders.
I'm sorry Rising seniors.

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Those rise and 11th graders
Rising seniors.

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They're looking to find their
place for the four years when

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they when they finish High
School.

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Younger guys are trying to are
trying to get their named trying

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to get their self seen trying to
get their names on the scene and

448
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:33,200
and start building that
reputation and what you're going

449
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,500
to get when you get there.
All right.

450
00:26:35,700 --> 00:26:38,100
They're going to come in a lot
of the camps that I've been

451
00:26:38,100 --> 00:26:40,600
around.
I've worked they're going to

452
00:26:40,608 --> 00:26:46,000
roll in and they have some kind
of idea of how many they want in

453
00:26:46,008 --> 00:26:48,700
the group and they're going to
come in and they're going to,

454
00:26:49,300 --> 00:26:52,400
they're going to stir and say
they're going to have like an

455
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,300
hour for registration so you
have an hour or time to get

456
00:26:55,300 --> 00:26:58,400
there when so many kids get
their they're going to start

457
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,500
them stretching and they're
going to send them off to the

458
00:27:00,500 --> 00:27:02,900
side.
Then the next group of so many

459
00:27:02,900 --> 00:27:04,800
is coming in, they're gonna
start on the stretching and get

460
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,900
them going.
And when that ours up they're

461
00:27:07,900 --> 00:27:09,300
going to bring them all
together.

462
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,400
Start splitting them off by
position.

463
00:27:12,500 --> 00:27:15,500
Things of that nature and then
they're going to start those

464
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:21,000
combine tight workouts.
You know, you're going to have a

465
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:27,200
lot of them.
Have 40s Pro shuttle, vertical

466
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,900
jump or broad jump.
Different schools do different

467
00:27:30,900 --> 00:27:36,200
ones, vertical jump, broad,
jump, you're going to have L

468
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,200
drills and things of that
nature.

469
00:27:39,500 --> 00:27:41,800
So they're going to, they're
going to get those combine

470
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,800
scores.
They're also going to get the

471
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,900
height and the weight, things
like that.

472
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,800
That those those are the ones
that tell it, the Big Bopper

473
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,600
because college coaches, when
they hit that combine, they're

474
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,600
going to tell the truth Jack.
You're gonna, it's gonna be a

475
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,600
lot of kids disappointed in the
first ten.

476
00:27:58,700 --> 00:28:01,500
Minutes, they get to that camp
because their High School coach

477
00:28:01,500 --> 00:28:03,700
has been telling them that
they're 63.

478
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:08,700
And that cat 6 1 and a quarter.
Well, we won't in high school.

479
00:28:08,700 --> 00:28:11,700
We will deal the team to think
that our skill guys, are bigger

480
00:28:11,700 --> 00:28:14,400
than they are and we wanted to
thank our linemen or smaller

481
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,600
than they are.
So when they walk all Wyman and

482
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:20,500
they go well he's only 61 and
260 pounds.

483
00:28:20,700 --> 00:28:24,800
Yeah that cat 65 290 Pounds.
I'm gonna have my hands full.

484
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,600
Is might be fudging the numbers
a little bit to get to get a

485
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,900
mental Edge, over the world.
Yeah.

486
00:28:37,300 --> 00:28:39,400
Put some put some tube socks on
it.

487
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,400
Put your cleats on stayed in the
tippy toes.

488
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,500
I get a measurement.
We're gonna we're gonna we're

489
00:28:43,500 --> 00:28:45,700
gonna measure.
We're going to measure a skill

490
00:28:45,700 --> 00:28:49,200
guys, we're going to measure.
I still guys with cleats on and

491
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:53,100
on the tip toes.
And you know, if they've got, if

492
00:28:53,100 --> 00:28:55,500
they've got the faux hawk, we're
going to learn.

493
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,900
We're not pressing the line.
I'm going to be barefooted with

494
00:28:59,900 --> 00:29:04,900
bent knees and slouching.
Yeah, we're going to we're going

495
00:29:04,900 --> 00:29:07,700
your shoulders for a little bit.
We don't need an extra half inch

496
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,900
so that the very beginning of
that camp.

497
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,700
That's why I said it's going to
be a little bit out some of

498
00:29:12,700 --> 00:29:14,100
these kids.
When they do some of these

499
00:29:14,100 --> 00:29:16,900
things, they're going to think
they're fast and and all of this

500
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:21,400
and they're going to find some
kids are truly are fast and it's

501
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,700
going to be it's going to awaken
some of them that hey I might

502
00:29:24,700 --> 00:29:27,200
not I'm here to get my name put
out there.

503
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:28,600
I got a lot of work to do
before.

504
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,900
Or I hit that Rising Junior
Rising senior year, where people

505
00:29:32,900 --> 00:29:36,300
are going to be trying to push
offers and things of that

506
00:29:36,300 --> 00:29:37,800
nature.
I got a lot of work to do, if

507
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,500
I'm going to keep up with those
guys, but it gives them that

508
00:29:40,500 --> 00:29:42,300
mental Edge.
They get to see those.

509
00:29:42,700 --> 00:29:44,700
You know what?
It's like to be that kind of

510
00:29:44,708 --> 00:29:49,500
Prospect and that's a big thing,
but it, but it's also a place to

511
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,000
where you see a lot of times
with these camps and especially

512
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,800
this time of year and we watch
the rankings.

513
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,500
I know they're not everything to
you, but we're not as in

514
00:29:58,500 --> 00:29:59,700
control.
Connected as you are.

515
00:29:59,900 --> 00:30:02,400
But you see guys go and fall
because you see a guy, they

516
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,000
expected.
Like you said a little earlier.

517
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,800
Oh, 65 to 80 shit.
He's 62.

518
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,700
And he's 260.
Yeah, he's into shorter.

519
00:30:10,900 --> 00:30:13,500
He 30 pounds.
Lighter or 20 pounds, lighter

520
00:30:13,500 --> 00:30:17,400
his arms aren't as long, and and
then we run them through the

521
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,600
drills.
He did good on his drills but

522
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,400
he's 62 to 65.
He was saying stop 280.

523
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:24,900
Running up drills.
Like that.

524
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,000
He be skyrocketing.
Oh absolutely.

525
00:30:28,900 --> 00:30:33,200
Let me ask this.
You said what they're getting?

526
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:34,600
They're getting a lot of good
stuff.

527
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,100
But what aren't they getting
that?

528
00:30:36,100 --> 00:30:38,600
Some of the kids that you've
taken that you've had a

529
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,000
sit-down, have conversations
with and say, you're not going

530
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:45,200
to get this at these camps that
they have to understand.

531
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,400
They're not when they go to
these camps, nine times out of

532
00:30:48,408 --> 00:30:56,000
ten, they're not getting a.
Here's how to play your position

533
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,800
of football camp.
Okay?

534
00:30:59,100 --> 00:31:04,000
They're looking at You play this
position.

535
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,600
We're going to see how you play
it and how well you play it.

536
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,600
Now, that's not saying that the
coaches and the people running

537
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,900
the camp, while I'm going to
give them some tips or some

538
00:31:11,900 --> 00:31:14,600
things, that'll make them a
little better and help them out

539
00:31:14,700 --> 00:31:17,000
in certain ways.
But they're not, you know,

540
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,000
they're not going to go from the
start.

541
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,600
This is how we do our stance.
This is how we do this.

542
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,100
This is how we do that.
Now, they may go over some of

543
00:31:24,108 --> 00:31:28,500
that so that they can understand
what the individual is looking

544
00:31:28,500 --> 00:31:29,600
at.
Okay?

545
00:31:29,700 --> 00:31:31,700
This is how we this is how we
work with.

546
00:31:31,900 --> 00:31:35,100
Backers of, this is how we work
with DB, and this is what we

547
00:31:35,100 --> 00:31:37,600
look for now not all coaches,
look for that.

548
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,400
And I've heard coaches to, you
know, you can you do it your

549
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,500
way?
Because when it comes down to it

550
00:31:42,500 --> 00:31:46,200
in August September and October
you got to do it the way, your

551
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,400
coach is telling you to do it
because if you turn around and

552
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,500
tell them coach Huxtable was one
of the best of them.

553
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,400
He was linebackers coach at NC
State for several years.

554
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,300
Those trucks will said, I can
tell you all.

555
00:31:56,300 --> 00:31:58,600
I want to hear.
He said, but if you go back to

556
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,000
your coach and tell him to coach
Huxtable told you to do it this

557
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:10,900
way, I'm going to you lied to
get it done.

558
00:32:11,300 --> 00:32:13,400
He said, because I'm not going
to tell you that our way is any

559
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,700
better than anybody else's, and
you just have to do that.

560
00:32:16,700 --> 00:32:20,100
So if you're going into that
camp expecting to learn how to

561
00:32:20,100 --> 00:32:25,900
play, you know, Virginia Tech's
defense, you're probably, you

562
00:32:25,900 --> 00:32:28,800
probably be better off taking
that money and buying, you know,

563
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,700
Frank Beamer's special teams
book.

564
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:36,300
Or something like that.
But I mean you're not going to

565
00:32:36,308 --> 00:32:39,700
learn to complete specific
social position or anything that

566
00:32:39,700 --> 00:32:41,500
has cancer.
They're going to learn what you

567
00:32:41,500 --> 00:32:44,600
know about playing the position
playing leverage, playing the

568
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,700
game and how you do it.
If you want to play back or

569
00:32:47,700 --> 00:32:50,500
you're better off by Bud
Foster's, coaching Bible than

570
00:32:50,500 --> 00:32:52,400
you are going to a camp.
Absolutely.

571
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,700
All right, so we're at a good
part here.

572
00:32:57,700 --> 00:33:00,700
We're going to take a brief
break and have a message from

573
00:33:00,700 --> 00:33:04,200
our digital partner.
Alright, so we're back guys.

574
00:33:04,300 --> 00:33:07,400
Now Robbie something.
I didn't know this.

575
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,800
Well, maybe I didn't know this,
but I just didn't remember us

576
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:14,800
talking about it, but you and
obviously, guys, you coach with

577
00:33:14,900 --> 00:33:18,800
you guys have actually evaluated
for schools.

578
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,700
Correct.
Is this something that is pretty

579
00:33:20,700 --> 00:33:24,800
common among the High School
coaches at P5.

580
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,700
Cams, or is it more
relationships building between

581
00:33:28,700 --> 00:33:32,000
the school and the head coaches
of those schools?

582
00:33:32,100 --> 00:33:35,600
I Think it's, I think it's, I
think it's got a lot to do with

583
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,900
the relationships.
You build with what some of the

584
00:33:37,900 --> 00:33:41,900
coaches and they they learned,
they understand the trust and

585
00:33:42,100 --> 00:33:44,900
and how you're coaching things,
and what you're doing.

586
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:49,500
And things of that nature, a big
part of it anyway, a big part of

587
00:33:49,500 --> 00:33:51,700
the whole process is that
relationship.

588
00:33:51,700 --> 00:33:56,600
You build with those coaches if
they if those coaches are

589
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:01,600
evaluating your players and
You're telling them, they're

590
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,400
this and they're that, and then
they get to the school or they

591
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,700
get to these camps and they
don't back that up.

592
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,000
Then there's a question about
you know, what your portray into

593
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,100
them.
But when you, when you're

594
00:34:12,100 --> 00:34:14,600
constantly telling these coaches
that are recruiting these kids,

595
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,300
what kind of kids they are, I
tell kids all the time when

596
00:34:18,300 --> 00:34:20,500
we're doing recruiting stuff,
we're talking to the coaches.

597
00:34:20,699 --> 00:34:22,500
I'm not going to lie to the
coach, I'm going to tell them

598
00:34:22,500 --> 00:34:25,800
the truth.
If you're, if you're 100% motor

599
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:30,100
kid, but you're not the greatest
technical player.

600
00:34:30,300 --> 00:34:32,800
Or things of that nature.
I'm going to let him know that

601
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:39,000
if your craptastic individual
that doesn't want to listen and

602
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,000
doesn't want to follow the
coaching but a spectacular

603
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,100
athlete.
I'm going to tell the coach that

604
00:34:44,100 --> 00:34:48,500
because I'm not going to have
any, it sounds, it sounds kind

605
00:34:48,500 --> 00:34:51,800
of personal, but I'm not going
to have my reputation ruined by

606
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,900
sending the kid out there, that
I praised and said we're so

607
00:34:54,900 --> 00:34:56,400
great.
And then it turned around and

608
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,300
not be that player.
I mean, we're getting honest

609
00:34:59,300 --> 00:35:01,400
with them.
Are you putting your name on it?

610
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:02,700
You going to you going to tell
the truth?

611
00:35:02,900 --> 00:35:05,600
Absolutely.
And coaches coaches.

612
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,200
See those things and they
understand that base.

613
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:12,700
They start to see that the
players you're sending them and

614
00:35:12,700 --> 00:35:15,300
what their reputation is and how
you evaluate things.

615
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,500
And I mean, I've had some
situations where I've had

616
00:35:18,500 --> 00:35:24,100
coaches that would that allow me
to give my input on players and

617
00:35:24,100 --> 00:35:26,500
things of that nature.
Now, by no means.

618
00:35:26,500 --> 00:35:30,200
Am I doing You know, they're
recruiting for them or anything

619
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,200
like that.
But I mean, I've had coaches

620
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,600
that have allowed me to give my
input on what the, what the

621
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,000
players at those camps, you
know, how they performed and

622
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,500
what they did well and and how
they could improve.

623
00:35:41,500 --> 00:35:45,300
If they would fit into the
situation, especially one coach

624
00:35:45,300 --> 00:35:46,800
in particular that I worked
with.

625
00:35:47,100 --> 00:35:49,800
I knew.
And he knew that we worked for

626
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,300
so long together, that we
actually ran a lot of the same

627
00:35:53,300 --> 00:35:58,000
drills and everything your
practices and the he knew he I

628
00:35:58,008 --> 00:36:01,400
knew that I knew exactly what to
look for in these drills and the

629
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,200
things he was doing.
So he felt comfortable with me

630
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:08,000
running a drill just like he
would, you know, his own GA or

631
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,700
things of that nature.
So, I mean, that that kind of

632
00:36:10,700 --> 00:36:14,200
worked out and it was it was
very useful at the camp.

633
00:36:16,300 --> 00:36:19,500
So let's talk about the
evaluation so we can start.

634
00:36:21,300 --> 00:36:23,900
This is when looking for
something we're gonna start

635
00:36:23,900 --> 00:36:25,700
with, we're going to start with
but with my bread and butter

636
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,900
offensive line defensive line,
well we're when you're

637
00:36:28,900 --> 00:36:34,800
evaluating those positions at a
camp, what type of things are

638
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,400
you looking for?
From the defensive line?

639
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,100
What type of things are you
looking for, from the offensive

640
00:36:38,100 --> 00:36:39,200
line?
All right?

641
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:40,700
How long is this podcast?
Right?

642
00:36:41,500 --> 00:36:45,700
Don't matter.
What was you wanted to take a

643
00:36:45,707 --> 00:36:47,500
sip?
Take us that if I take this is

644
00:36:47,500 --> 00:36:50,800
yeah that got a wet.
The whistle here to get this one

645
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:51,900
going.
There we go.

646
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,400
The camps like we said before
you know you got a bunch of

647
00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:01,800
different kinds of camps.
The the big like there's big VTO

648
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,300
camps and things like that, nine
times out of ten, all they're

649
00:37:04,300 --> 00:37:08,600
going to get out of that.
Most of the time is your combine

650
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,400
stuff.
You will get some that they get

651
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,600
lighter enough that you'll get
some one-on-ones with some

652
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,900
offensive lineman has to be.
Bees and receivers and

653
00:37:17,900 --> 00:37:22,700
linebackers and running backs.
Things of that nature but a lot

654
00:37:22,700 --> 00:37:26,500
of those super camps or the
regional camps and stuff you're

655
00:37:26,500 --> 00:37:30,400
going to have anywhere from 800
to 1,000 kids show up.

656
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,100
It's hard to get all of those
kids in the two-and-a-half hour

657
00:37:33,100 --> 00:37:35,800
period, through all of that
stuff and give any of them a

658
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,900
chance to do a one-on-one.
Yeah we smaller camps in your

659
00:37:40,100 --> 00:37:44,500
you're more focused sponsor
camps I guess you could call

660
00:37:44,500 --> 00:37:46,800
them.
You're going to See, one-on-ones

661
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,600
and things like that.
Now, Like you said it

662
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,300
bread-and-butter do the o-line
d-line.

663
00:37:53,700 --> 00:37:59,800
I mean, I play do line through
school, the vast majority of my

664
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,200
experience in coaching has been
with offensive and defensive

665
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:06,300
line.
I've coached linebackers dbe's

666
00:38:07,300 --> 00:38:09,400
receivers tight ends running
back.

667
00:38:09,900 --> 00:38:12,600
I've coached all of those at
some point but my biggest

668
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,100
things, o line of do you I know
what you'll notice.

669
00:38:15,100 --> 00:38:18,900
A lot of these, a lot of these
camps when it It's the

670
00:38:18,900 --> 00:38:20,600
one-on-ones.
There's no helmets.

671
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,900
There's no shoulder pads.
Now a lot of the, a lot of these

672
00:38:23,900 --> 00:38:26,900
camps there are going to where
they can use helmets and a lot

673
00:38:26,900 --> 00:38:29,900
of that is on the new rules with
the concussions and things of

674
00:38:29,900 --> 00:38:32,300
that nature.
But a lot of times before there

675
00:38:32,300 --> 00:38:37,200
were no helmets involved in it.
So in that case you get you get

676
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:41,100
a lot of pass rusher in a lot of
Russian and things of that

677
00:38:41,100 --> 00:38:43,900
nature and it's going to take
part of that.

678
00:38:45,700 --> 00:38:48,600
I don't want to say part of the
evaluation out of it, but it's

679
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,400
going to take certain parts of
things out because these players

680
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:55,500
are going to be conscious of
where the other player is and

681
00:38:55,500 --> 00:38:59,200
whether their opponent is and
things like that because they're

682
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,300
not, they don't want to take a
chance of getting hurt and we

683
00:39:01,300 --> 00:39:03,700
understand that.
So a lot of the offensive

684
00:39:03,700 --> 00:39:07,100
linemen defensive lineman, the
first thing you look for is is

685
00:39:07,100 --> 00:39:12,100
there there get off their
footwork offensive, linemen and

686
00:39:12,100 --> 00:39:15,100
defensive line handwork.
Things of that nature.

687
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,900
It's really about that first
step.

688
00:39:19,300 --> 00:39:23,600
You can tell a lot about a pass
rusher and an offensive lineman

689
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:27,000
by that first step.
You know, if that first step for

690
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:32,400
the defensive lineman is quick,
fasten the ground and he gets

691
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,400
close as a gap, tremendously
between him and the offensive

692
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,800
linemen right?
At the snap of the ball.

693
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,200
There's no delay.
Things of that nature, you know,

694
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,200
he can probably beat that guy,
he can get in if he dies.

695
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,400
Mrs. Wyman if he can close the
gap, he gets an advantage, the

696
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,100
offensive lineman, if he can get
that step back, his feet aren't

697
00:39:51,100 --> 00:39:54,100
too wide.
He's got good balance and he

698
00:39:54,100 --> 00:39:56,500
keeps that separation.
He's got a better chance of

699
00:39:56,508 --> 00:40:00,300
winning that thing so that first
step is huge and then after that

700
00:40:00,300 --> 00:40:03,900
first step you're looking a lot
at where those hands have being

701
00:40:03,900 --> 00:40:05,900
placed.
If they offensive lineman's

702
00:40:05,900 --> 00:40:08,700
hands are close together.
He's got good extension, good

703
00:40:08,700 --> 00:40:11,800
separation and keep a defensive
lineman away from him.

704
00:40:12,700 --> 00:40:15,100
I mean, he's got a good chance
to keep making steps.

705
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,900
And keeping that separation that
defensive.

706
00:40:17,900 --> 00:40:19,800
Lineman can close that
separation.

707
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,700
Get his hands on the linemen on
the offensive line where he can

708
00:40:22,700 --> 00:40:24,400
move him and control the
situation.

709
00:40:24,700 --> 00:40:27,900
He's got a good chance of
winning that and for us a lot of

710
00:40:27,900 --> 00:40:30,200
it ends there.
Okay.

711
00:40:30,700 --> 00:40:32,900
Some of the kids you'll see a
lot of those one-on-one.

712
00:40:33,500 --> 00:40:36,500
You know you evaluate you've
evaluated the first step and all

713
00:40:36,500 --> 00:40:39,900
of this the offensive linemen
clearly wanted but the defensive

714
00:40:39,900 --> 00:40:43,300
lineman still gets to the bag.
Or the barrel or whatever.

715
00:40:43,300 --> 00:40:46,800
This is Lady quarterback.
Okay, good job, kid.

716
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,900
Let's see what he does and he
continued to push hard and fast

717
00:40:49,900 --> 00:40:52,500
through all of that.
Got to the Barrel Spring, it all

718
00:40:52,500 --> 00:40:55,500
the way back to your spot.
Okay, he's a hard-working kid.

719
00:40:55,500 --> 00:40:58,600
He's tremendous now granted, it
took him four and a half seconds

720
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,500
to get to the barrel.
The offensive line.

721
00:41:00,500 --> 00:41:01,900
Probably beat it.
Yeah.

722
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,400
Four and a half seconds of the
quarterback, hadn't got the ball

723
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:17,200
out and he's knocking at barrel
down, then he's probably done

724
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,600
some really good things there so
you just have to evaluate that.

725
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,000
Now, would you in the opposite
situation is what you're looking

726
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,400
for, the fat kid, you know,
three and a half seconds out.

727
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,100
He offensive lineman's got
separation and he just kind of

728
00:41:30,100 --> 00:41:32,800
gives it up gets pushed around
or pancakes.

729
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,200
And the offensive lineman's
laying on top of it, then you're

730
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,400
going to start kind of
questioning, you know, is that

731
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:41,100
kid got to work ethic to
continue to fight just in case

732
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,700
the quarterback is holding the
ball that long.

733
00:41:43,900 --> 00:41:46,100
Yeah.
So the evaluation kind of goes

734
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:50,500
that way with those guys so
you're looking for a lot of the

735
00:41:50,500 --> 00:41:52,900
initial stuff and then you're
looking for a kind of effort.

736
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,200
Absolutely that.
After that point now I mean when

737
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,100
it when it comes to a full pads
and things like that, things can

738
00:41:59,100 --> 00:42:02,500
change in a split second you
know, you could have a great

739
00:42:02,500 --> 00:42:06,600
first Up that offensive lineman
could have a an amazing

740
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,900
upper-body strength to just even
though he's creepy, you've

741
00:42:09,900 --> 00:42:14,200
closed that separation, he can
latch on and extend it out and

742
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,800
take that something take the
separation back.

743
00:42:17,100 --> 00:42:19,200
I mean there's things like that,
but you're not going to see a

744
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:23,900
lot of that in the into 10 ones
without pads, and things of that

745
00:42:24,100 --> 00:42:26,300
nature.
And then here in the last year,

746
00:42:26,300 --> 00:42:30,600
of course, well, they didn't
have camps then, but they got to

747
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,900
a because the covid, but they
got to a point.

748
00:42:32,900 --> 00:42:35,900
Point at one time where a lot of
folks they had to have pads in

749
00:42:35,900 --> 00:42:39,100
between them, more of the safety
issues, things and stuff like

750
00:42:39,100 --> 00:42:42,200
that, and it's really hard to
evaluate the continuance of a

751
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:43,900
lot of that stuff for this pads
too.

752
00:42:48,300 --> 00:42:51,200
You ever see like, for example,
you mentioned in the offensive

753
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:57,000
line and I know I've seen videos
where the offensive linemen

754
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,600
celebrating because he's
throwing the guy.

755
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,500
Yeah, great.
You look where he threw the guy.

756
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,300
Well, you just killed your
quarterback and his ACL is done

757
00:43:06,300 --> 00:43:10,500
and you have no team.
So does it does it as a coach

758
00:43:10,700 --> 00:43:12,800
when you see especially
offensive defensive line drills

759
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:17,000
because they are so focused.
Do you ever is it ever

760
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,600
something, the coaches, the P5,
the head coaches, or the

761
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,100
positional coaches who are
working on you?

762
00:43:22,100 --> 00:43:25,900
Looking at, like this guy
thought he won that said, he's

763
00:43:25,900 --> 00:43:30,300
celebrating pimp walk and act
like he's the shit and that

764
00:43:30,300 --> 00:43:35,200
coaches said over here like son.
No you don't you don't need to

765
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:36,200
do that.
Is that a gun?

766
00:43:36,300 --> 00:43:38,600
You just got ten yards and he
killed your quarterback.

767
00:43:38,700 --> 00:43:41,500
Absolutely.
Now are you just like we said

768
00:43:41,500 --> 00:43:44,500
with the with the defensive
lineman, you know, as he did all

769
00:43:44,500 --> 00:43:46,600
that that and he got slapped
around for four and a half

770
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,600
seconds.
Then the offensive line was kind

771
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:52,000
of like, all right, I've whipped
him enough, he spends back runs

772
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,200
off and blast the barrel.
Now he thinks he's awesome.

773
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,600
Well, five seconds ago you would
have been off but poor and a

774
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:00,800
half seconds to get there.
Didn't do you much good?

775
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,700
Do that often climb in the first
step?

776
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,400
He lost his constituency lost a
separation.

777
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,000
He took bad steps.
His feet were real wide.

778
00:44:08,300 --> 00:44:12,400
The only choice he had was to
grab a whole and, you know, Sumo

779
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:19,200
into the ground, okay?
Well, the more than likely we're

780
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,800
going to see if he's going to
get to a side with both hands

781
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:25,700
out and he thinks okay to, he
never got to the quarterback.

782
00:44:26,300 --> 00:44:31,300
I took him out or he comes down
hard inside and he defensive

783
00:44:31,300 --> 00:44:34,900
lineman is laid out so far and
he just slammed them down.

784
00:44:35,700 --> 00:44:39,700
He slammed him right through the
quarterbacks knees, you know, he

785
00:44:39,700 --> 00:44:41,700
thinks he's done something, but
the coaches going.

786
00:44:41,700 --> 00:44:44,600
Well, if you'd have taken your
step and get to put your hand,

787
00:44:44,700 --> 00:44:46,200
Placement, right?
And done all that.

788
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,400
The start with even never beat
you there anyway.

789
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,600
But it's all on, it's all
sometimes that will show you how

790
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:57,000
the kids is is unfortunately
show you how to kid is coached

791
00:44:57,100 --> 00:44:59,800
if they think that's doing what
they need to be doing.

792
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:04,600
Yeah and I mean it's definitely
an evaluation tool if you think

793
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:08,400
you're winning a rep doing that?
The yeah the coaching definitely

794
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:14,000
there or you sure you're not
you're not absorbing it and I'm

795
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,400
guessing that goes into things.
All right, so let's jump off.

796
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,200
Y'all bread and butter we talked
about it for about 10 minutes.

797
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,100
And let's move on to the next
one.

798
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,400
Now, offensive defensive line is
we you get someone directly in

799
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:29,100
front of you things to look for.
Oh yeah, we talked about was

800
00:45:29,100 --> 00:45:32,700
running back in linebackers,
Robbie when, when these coaches

801
00:45:32,700 --> 00:45:35,900
are looking at running back,
what are they specifically

802
00:45:35,900 --> 00:45:39,600
looking for in camps?
Because again, like you

803
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,200
mentioned already they're not in
pads and helmets, they can't do

804
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,200
everything, but what specific
variable for running backs?

805
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:50,200
Well, one thing you'll see a lot
in camps, and we We kind of

806
00:45:50,207 --> 00:45:53,700
touched at it earlier is when
they go in they're going to

807
00:45:53,700 --> 00:45:58,900
separate them by position and
you're going to go off with your

808
00:46:00,300 --> 00:46:02,700
offensive line group, you're
going to go off with your

809
00:46:02,700 --> 00:46:04,900
defensive line group.
You're going to go off with you,

810
00:46:04,900 --> 00:46:08,300
running back groups, your
linebacker groups, each player,

811
00:46:08,300 --> 00:46:11,000
a come into this thing more than
likely, it's going to have a

812
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:15,100
position that they're working.
Most of these guys that they

813
00:46:15,100 --> 00:46:17,900
come in.
And they're going to work two

814
00:46:17,900 --> 00:46:20,200
positions.
It's going to be it's going to

815
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,700
be notified early that they're
working, two positions, okay?

816
00:46:23,900 --> 00:46:27,000
And a lot of times, a lot of
times, the two positions are

817
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:28,600
going to be on the same side of
the ball.

818
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,900
So you may have one kid that
that's working linebacker and

819
00:46:32,900 --> 00:46:35,500
strong safety.
Very seldom.

820
00:46:35,500 --> 00:46:38,600
Do you see a kid that's going to
come in to a camp and work

821
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,900
linebacker and running back or
something of that?

822
00:46:43,300 --> 00:46:46,300
You may you may catch a
linebacker then it's going to do

823
00:46:46,300 --> 00:46:48,800
something.
After the camp as a Long

824
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:52,700
Snapper, or special teams guy,
something like that, but you're

825
00:46:52,700 --> 00:46:55,200
not.
It's hard to go in and do the

826
00:46:55,200 --> 00:47:00,100
drills on both sides like that.
So we may get a kid that does

827
00:47:00,100 --> 00:47:03,600
linebacker and strong safety
because at his high school, he

828
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:07,400
may be you know, weak side
linebacker.

829
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:11,200
That's actually play in the
strong safety position that it

830
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,000
was.
It's kind of weird in those

831
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,800
situations, but they split them
up like that.

832
00:47:16,500 --> 00:47:20,100
And you're going to do drills
and things specific to that

833
00:47:20,100 --> 00:47:23,800
position.
So you're going to see in those

834
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:28,700
drills by position.
What those kids do with those

835
00:47:28,700 --> 00:47:35,000
athletes to do in, run
situations, or read situations,

836
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,600
all of those type things.
When you get to these one-on-one

837
00:47:39,500 --> 00:47:44,600
95% of the time, it's a passing
situation.

838
00:47:46,100 --> 00:47:49,800
So that makes when you when you
start talking about running

839
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:53,700
backs and linebackers, that
makes things a lot different in

840
00:47:53,700 --> 00:47:58,400
the evaluation process simply
because well as a running back

841
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,300
You're going to have
play-action, and then sometimes

842
00:48:02,300 --> 00:48:03,500
you're going to have free
release.

843
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,700
Tight wraps.
Yeah, when you're in, that

844
00:48:07,700 --> 00:48:10,600
one-on-one situation, you're
still going to see some play

845
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,900
action to Route.
So you still see some free

846
00:48:13,900 --> 00:48:15,700
release routes, things like
that.

847
00:48:15,700 --> 00:48:18,200
But you're not going to see that
running back in a one-on-one

848
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:24,000
situation step up in the in the
play action and then walk chip

849
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,200
the the Russian egg.
Yeah.

850
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,900
You know you're not going to do
that in one on ones, you're

851
00:48:28,900 --> 00:48:31,900
going to him fake that and then
run his choice.

852
00:48:31,900 --> 00:48:34,300
Route, over the middle against
the linebacker.

853
00:48:34,500 --> 00:48:37,700
You're going to see him run
their free release bubble or

854
00:48:37,700 --> 00:48:43,500
swing out of the back field or
the wheel route, which is who

855
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,000
will write.
I have nightmares about will

856
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,600
route, I love will routes.
I do too.

857
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:53,400
As you know, if I want to call
an offense in the guy out there,

858
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,900
I do.
But you know, there's only so

859
00:48:55,900 --> 00:48:58,800
many times you can, you could
tell a linebacker.

860
00:49:00,500 --> 00:49:04,300
Only so many times you can tell
him in a day to watch the wheel

861
00:49:04,300 --> 00:49:10,800
route before, maybe he might
watch it before the game

862
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,400
tonight.
Probably not.

863
00:49:18,700 --> 00:49:20,800
We got to let one get by at
least.

864
00:49:21,100 --> 00:49:25,300
Oh yeah, we just have to hope
did the running back.

865
00:49:25,300 --> 00:49:27,700
Does not catch very well.
There we go.

866
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,200
But unfortunately.
Most of the time is running

867
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:32,500
back.
Doesn't catch very well.

868
00:49:32,500 --> 00:49:38,300
Where's the crawler going to be
y back again?

869
00:49:38,300 --> 00:49:42,100
I get I guess I trap right?
He's still getting good

870
00:49:42,100 --> 00:49:43,600
information man, that's all that
matters.

871
00:49:45,100 --> 00:49:47,500
The one-on-ones with running
backs and linebackers are going

872
00:49:47,500 --> 00:49:51,100
to be past situations.
So me being a defensive

873
00:49:51,100 --> 00:49:53,400
coordinator for the last several
years.

874
00:49:55,700 --> 00:49:59,600
I hated the parts of some of
those 10 ones because my

875
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:04,400
linebackers are going to, they
know, right off the bat, I'm in

876
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,600
a one-on-one situation in the
past situation.

877
00:50:07,100 --> 00:50:12,300
So I have to make sure that
they're still taking their

878
00:50:12,300 --> 00:50:15,700
proper what I call foot fire.
Still taking proper steps where

879
00:50:15,700 --> 00:50:18,000
they're initially reading?
Yep.

880
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,400
Okay, that part is going to be
evaluated, you're going to see

881
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,200
coaches looking at that.
And there they want to know.

882
00:50:24,500 --> 00:50:27,400
Because that kid is that kid
going to be reading on the play.

883
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:32,500
Even if he knows his third and
17 and The Scouting Report says

884
00:50:32,500 --> 00:50:37,000
they throw 97 percent of the
time on Third and anything, 7

885
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:42,500
plus the he's going to pass you
steal, better be foot fire and

886
00:50:42,500 --> 00:50:45,900
ready to read because they might
run a draw for 18 yards or

887
00:50:45,900 --> 00:50:48,800
third, but he better be ready
for that hokey quarterback power

888
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:52,600
on Third and 17.
So I mean, you've got to be

889
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:56,100
ready for it because yes, it's
97 percent of the time because

890
00:50:56,100 --> 00:50:59,600
three percent of the time that
they're not in those

891
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:01,600
one-on-ones, you're going to
get, you're going to get

892
00:51:01,700 --> 00:51:05,300
especially younger kids.
They're not making that good

893
00:51:05,300 --> 00:51:06,800
fire step.
They're not making that read

894
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,900
step, they immediately eyes go
to the running back, there

895
00:51:09,900 --> 00:51:13,800
running, downhill cords running
back, which they Juiced in a

896
00:51:13,808 --> 00:51:17,400
heartbeat, and it's bad news
that, but that's where that

897
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,400
evaluation comes in.
You know, we kept running back,

898
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,400
going out.
You're looking for, you're

899
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,700
looking for his route is he is
he going to deepen the bubble?

900
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,700
Is he running to Flat?
Is he gaining ground before he

901
00:51:29,700 --> 00:51:32,100
supposed to?
When he's running this Choice,

902
00:51:32,100 --> 00:51:36,200
route, or things of that nature,
as a running back going in and

903
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,700
forcing the linebacker to make a
decision, which way to go.

904
00:51:39,700 --> 00:51:43,200
So he can break his choice.
Route to create separation.

905
00:51:43,900 --> 00:51:46,400
The same thing with the
linebacker is he closing ground

906
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:52,200
too early and taking the field
advantage away from itself these

907
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,600
leverage.
Yeah yeah he watching the

908
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:56,200
running back and not paying
attention to anything.

909
00:51:56,200 --> 00:52:02,100
Nothing else because a lot of
times as we know football you

910
00:52:02,100 --> 00:52:04,300
know the quarterback might be
reading that linebacker.

911
00:52:04,300 --> 00:52:07,000
If he puts his eyes directly on
the running back and takes off

912
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,500
in in there and he's got a bead
on that running back and not

913
00:52:10,500 --> 00:52:14,500
making his reads and keys that
inside receiver might be coming

914
00:52:14,500 --> 00:52:18,300
in and setting up where he left.
You know, you may be getting a

915
00:52:18,308 --> 00:52:25,100
slant or a or Shoot.
I can't even tell you the name

916
00:52:25,100 --> 00:52:28,200
of it right now too.
Late at night.

917
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:33,000
I'm lost working on my on my
Master's, for my special

918
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:36,900
education degree and it's got my
mind blown right now, I'm losing

919
00:52:36,900 --> 00:52:41,200
work.
They're running hooks, or come

920
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,900
back and things and they're
sitting down with a linebacker

921
00:52:43,900 --> 00:52:46,600
left.
It shows that they're not making

922
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,800
their reads, you know, because
he's taken off out there to the

923
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,100
back because it's the only thing
in that drill.

924
00:52:52,100 --> 00:52:55,800
That's Yeah, but you have to
show that you're still making

925
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:59,200
your, your angle, your 45 degree
angle or whatever, you're

926
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,500
covering your Zone, if that's
what the coverage is, or you're

927
00:53:02,500 --> 00:53:05,700
playing your main underwear.
It is more like a dig.

928
00:53:05,700 --> 00:53:08,400
If you try to find the wide
receiver, tries to find the soft

929
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:09,800
spot there.
Absolutely.

930
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,900
So nice, big piece, when doing
especially on run back,

931
00:53:13,900 --> 00:53:18,600
linebacker drill, especially for
the linebacker is He's having

932
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,800
the mentality of.
I don't give a damn, you know

933
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:25,900
what the running play?
We thing you normally do because

934
00:53:25,900 --> 00:53:28,500
the guy looking at you over
there, that's what he wants to

935
00:53:28,500 --> 00:53:30,600
see if you're doing all this
stuff.

936
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,000
He starts saying, okay, this
kid's got a head on his

937
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,800
shoulders, his kids listening,
this kids understanding how to

938
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,200
be coached by his high school
coach to say.

939
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,900
Okay, I've got to do my read.
I've got to step by step into

940
00:53:40,900 --> 00:53:43,400
the Gap.
Do I step out and be like, what

941
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:47,300
are the, where do I go now?
From the running back side,

942
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:49,800
You've mentioned route,
obviously.

943
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:53,200
They're looking at hands, but
I'm assuming as much as

944
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:54,900
leverage, it is for the
linebacker.

945
00:53:55,100 --> 00:53:58,200
It's the running back when they
get that ball, one-on-one

946
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:02,700
understanding The Leverage.
Against the linebacker.

947
00:54:02,700 --> 00:54:06,200
I absolutely like again I'm
assuming it's more heading

948
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:07,800
things you're sitting here with
it.

949
00:54:07,900 --> 00:54:09,600
All right?
There's no one blocking out

950
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,400
there.
You're going to run that way.

951
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,200
I'm sure there are times where
you probably sit there and say,

952
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,800
well, of course there's no one
blocking out there.

953
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,500
You got an angle on him, you're
going to get 15 yards.

954
00:54:20,700 --> 00:54:23,100
Yeah, that's not going to happen
every time.

955
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:26,100
No, because you've got a shitty
wide receiver who don't know how

956
00:54:26,100 --> 00:54:28,200
to block in the quart bags
coming in.

957
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:31,700
You can't give it that way.
Every decided it would be easier

958
00:54:31,700 --> 00:54:37,200
if he didn't block, you know.
Yeah, I just I just whipped a

959
00:54:37,207 --> 00:54:40,100
decent linebacker because I
created good separation and I

960
00:54:40,100 --> 00:54:42,200
can angle away from him.
You dip?

961
00:54:42,700 --> 00:54:44,900
There's Kam Chancellor.
Standing back and safety

962
00:54:44,900 --> 00:54:46,300
decisions.
You're not getting any further

963
00:54:46,300 --> 00:54:49,700
than this.
I mean that's yeah, that's a big

964
00:54:49,700 --> 00:54:53,500
in the boom.
And the legion will be there to

965
00:54:53,500 --> 00:55:00,000
help you simple.
But I mean is that running back

966
00:55:00,100 --> 00:55:04,400
there looking at you know yes he
charges that backer and he

967
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,500
pressed a certain way and got a
release so he got the linebacker

968
00:55:07,500 --> 00:55:09,700
to play.
His is outside half.

969
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,800
He turned to the inside, over
the middle of the field, catches

970
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:14,100
the ball.
How is he?

971
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:15,800
We know what is he doing?
Where is he catching?

972
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:17,400
The ball?
Is he catching it with his

973
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,600
hands, he catching it.
You know underneath into his

974
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:24,100
chest is he protecting the ball?
Things of that nature, how he's

975
00:55:24,100 --> 00:55:27,700
tucking the ball away, is he
turning up field and go is he

976
00:55:27,700 --> 00:55:30,600
making an angle, you know,
different things like that

977
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:34,300
they're looking forward to
figure out, you know, in the

978
00:55:34,300 --> 00:55:38,800
thing use Like sometimes they'll
tell they'll tell you

979
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,500
beforehand, okay?
You've got a single high safety

980
00:55:41,500 --> 00:55:45,100
over the top that you know if
you turn straight up a middle of

981
00:55:45,100 --> 00:55:47,800
the field, he's going to be in
your mouth, he's gonna knock you

982
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:49,600
out.
So you better take the angle

983
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,700
towards the side, where the
corner got cleared or something

984
00:55:52,700 --> 00:55:54,900
of that nature.
Just like the thing, you know

985
00:55:54,900 --> 00:55:57,600
they're one-on-ones but did we
ever?

986
00:55:57,600 --> 00:55:59,400
You know, they look at that
Library.

987
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,500
Do we ever tell you?
It was man coverage.

988
00:56:02,500 --> 00:56:08,100
No youyou went off blazing to
the running back, you know, yeah

989
00:56:08,100 --> 00:56:12,300
you had him covered but the hook
in the middle called the ball,

990
00:56:12,300 --> 00:56:15,200
they caught the seam over the
top because you didn't have a

991
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:18,300
own people, is you to play this.
I'm going to come down to where

992
00:56:18,300 --> 00:56:21,700
I thought it was man to man.
Well you should be, you should

993
00:56:21,700 --> 00:56:25,500
be finding out what the four
years before he and coaches will

994
00:56:25,500 --> 00:56:28,500
do things like that to get that
evaluation because a lot of

995
00:56:28,500 --> 00:56:31,200
times you'll get, will you
playing man-to-man?

996
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,600
Yes, sir.
I was Did we tell you, who's man

997
00:56:34,100 --> 00:56:36,900
know what should you have done?
I should have dropped into my

998
00:56:36,900 --> 00:56:38,800
zone.
Kept my eyes on the running back

999
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:43,000
and look for the inside receiver
coming into my zone, okay, they

1000
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:44,800
just did a self evaluation right
there.

1001
00:56:44,900 --> 00:56:48,700
The kid knows what to do, but
thinking that it was one-on-one,

1002
00:56:48,700 --> 00:56:52,600
he did what he had to.
And now, all of a sudden, I've

1003
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,200
got the evaluation of what he's
going to do in one-on-one

1004
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,500
situation and what he's going to
do on the other one.

1005
00:56:58,300 --> 00:57:01,100
So, I mean, they're giving the
coaches, the information there,

1006
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,500
and he coached arson.
See their process of how they're

1007
00:57:03,500 --> 00:57:07,100
thinking and it really goes a
long way into evaluating those

1008
00:57:07,100 --> 00:57:09,800
things.
This thing they need to run it

1009
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:11,900
back.
I mean he's coming out and you

1010
00:57:11,900 --> 00:57:15,200
know it, what did we tell you
today?

1011
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:18,900
God is always going to be one on
one and he didn't he didn't come

1012
00:57:18,900 --> 00:57:21,000
down at you then, what should
you have done?

1013
00:57:21,500 --> 00:57:24,200
You should have turned it into a
wheel and went on up field.

1014
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:26,900
Well, you should have stopped at
a certain spot and waiting for

1015
00:57:26,900 --> 00:57:31,500
the screen to come back in, you
know, however, they suggest that

1016
00:57:31,500 --> 00:57:35,100
you run, that particular route.
Yeah, so I would like a swing it

1017
00:57:35,100 --> 00:57:37,200
like knowing where the blocks
are in the alley.

1018
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:43,200
Absolutely.
So goes on and they can just ask

1019
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,300
a simple question and it gives
them a lot of it.

1020
00:57:45,900 --> 00:57:49,000
So again, a lot of the stuff for
especially running next

1021
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:52,300
linebackers because you don't
have there's a lot more going on

1022
00:57:52,300 --> 00:57:54,900
than just.
You got to go beat that guy.

1023
00:57:55,100 --> 00:57:57,900
Like that's a lot.
It's more of.

1024
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,800
They get to see the process and
they get to see the mental

1025
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:05,300
aptitude of these kids, where,
you know, can you catch a ball?

1026
00:58:05,300 --> 00:58:06,700
Great?
Did you catch it?

1027
00:58:06,700 --> 00:58:09,000
Did you tuck it, right?
And then did you know, Where to

1028
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,200
go appropriately.
When we'll play, we call?

1029
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:13,100
What Play We called on defense
for you to see.

1030
00:58:13,300 --> 00:58:17,600
Yep.
Now What what's next for on?

1031
00:58:18,300 --> 00:58:20,500
All right up.
Next we're going to do a little

1032
00:58:20,500 --> 00:58:23,500
wide receiver in DB, let's have
a little fun with this one.

1033
00:58:23,900 --> 00:58:27,000
Now wide receivers and DVDs are
I got a question?

1034
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:28,200
A question?
Yeah, man.

1035
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:29,500
Is this the biggest shit
talking.

1036
00:58:29,500 --> 00:58:34,200
Groups of all of them.
Yes.

1037
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:38,200
Without a doubt.
Just need a confirmation.

1038
00:58:38,300 --> 00:58:40,000
Yeah.
Not even close.

1039
00:58:40,100 --> 00:58:43,400
Yes, look at me.
And I don't know if some of my

1040
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:47,300
guys that I've coached over the
years, Sing the see this thing

1041
00:58:47,500 --> 00:58:50,000
which I hope they do.
I hope y'all get 10,000 views on

1042
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:53,500
this thing.
I don't know that I'm doing, I

1043
00:58:53,508 --> 00:58:55,200
don't know that you haven't me
as a guest.

1044
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,500
He is going to draw quite
numbers of Daryl Captain.

1045
00:58:59,700 --> 00:59:02,300
You never know solo.
Not that cool.

1046
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:06,800
Obviously that I've fooled
enough to think they know that.

1047
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:10,000
I know what I'm talking about
Darryl Tapp does know what he's

1048
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:14,200
talking about.
So, you know, they would you

1049
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:17,100
wide receivers in your DVDs.
Nine times out of ten are going

1050
00:59:17,107 --> 00:59:19,200
to be the yeah, they're going to
talk to trash.

1051
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:22,200
Now that that's where it's going
to be if you want to go to a

1052
00:59:22,207 --> 00:59:26,700
camp and you want to see the
talking back and forth in the

1053
00:59:26,700 --> 00:59:29,900
competition and then somebody
backing it up and somebody

1054
00:59:29,900 --> 00:59:33,100
getting say pump down and things
like that.

1055
00:59:33,100 --> 00:59:36,700
Go to the wide receiver, DB
competitions and just watch it

1056
00:59:36,700 --> 00:59:43,400
because it is what it is.
And but along with that, you're

1057
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:45,700
going to go in there and you're
going to insult.

1058
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:49,400
Cases, you're going to see a lot
more of the mental aspects to

1059
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:54,100
the things and those one-on-ones
at that wide receiver and DVDs.

1060
00:59:54,300 --> 00:59:56,900
If you catch the right wide
receivers and DPS.

1061
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:04,600
All right, so I'm gonna start
with the White House, okay?

1062
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:07,200
Okay.
A lot of your chest games going

1063
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:09,800
to happen there because we're
going to see is they're going

1064
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:11,700
to?
They're going to start seeing

1065
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:16,700
that, you know what each other
do we In different situations

1066
01:00:16,700 --> 01:00:20,200
how each other play and they're
going to try to take advantage

1067
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:23,100
of certain things that each of
them do and things of that

1068
01:00:23,100 --> 01:00:24,900
nature.
Now wide receiver the first

1069
01:00:24,900 --> 01:00:26,600
thing they're going to do is
they're going to walk out there

1070
01:00:27,300 --> 01:00:30,200
as us.
Coaches is evaluating these wide

1071
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:35,200
receivers we're looking.
Probably for three things.

1072
01:00:35,700 --> 01:00:40,200
All right, okay, we're probably
looking at their initial

1073
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:41,800
footwork.
Okay.

1074
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:45,400
At the snap of the ball of their
feet, staying in place, and

1075
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:48,100
dancing and doing all this
unnecessary movement.

1076
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:54,500
I mean we've seen we've seen
else a different levels that

1077
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,500
they run ten yards, they never
left the line.

1078
01:01:02,300 --> 01:01:05,000
Then after that, is their
release.

1079
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:11,100
And then their route Okay.
So that footwork now I'm not

1080
01:01:11,100 --> 01:01:15,800
saying you can't take a step or
two to get them to do because

1081
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:17,600
that's what that could be part
of your release.

1082
01:01:17,900 --> 01:01:20,900
Yeah.
Got initial step wide to the to

1083
01:01:20,900 --> 01:01:25,100
the boundary initial step wide
to the field to get that D.

1084
01:01:25,100 --> 01:01:27,200
Be to try to turn the shoulders
right then?

1085
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:30,000
Yeah.
But that release.

1086
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:36,000
If it's a man coverage is you
trying to to get him to

1087
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:40,200
overextend and Punch early.
So you can get his hands down

1088
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:44,300
and get the advantage over it.
If they're playing softer or if

1089
01:01:44,308 --> 01:01:47,500
they're playing zone.
So that you what you're doing

1090
01:01:47,500 --> 01:01:50,800
with the release is your press
on a certain area, you may be

1091
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:54,000
pressing his outside shoulder to
get him to flip his hips,

1092
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:56,700
towards the sideline and then
you can cut underneath him to

1093
01:01:56,700 --> 01:01:59,600
make him go all the way around.
Get what I'm saying?

1094
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:01,400
Yep.
Okay.

1095
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:03,700
You may press his inside
shoulder to get him to open

1096
01:02:03,700 --> 01:02:07,000
inside and then you cut behind
them and streak up the sideline

1097
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:09,400
vertically.
You know all of those are the

1098
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:13,600
releases and things like that.
So you're looking immediate and

1099
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:16,200
those wide receivers are going
to look at those DVDs and go.

1100
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:19,700
He really likes to flip his hips
quick because he knows, I'm

1101
01:02:22,500 --> 01:02:27,200
Excuse me, bless you, we can't
do that in post production, you

1102
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:33,600
know, that's awesome because he
knows that, you know, he he

1103
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:36,200
knows I'm faster than him
vertical so he's gonna flip quit

1104
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:38,200
things of that nature.
Yeah.

1105
01:02:38,300 --> 01:02:41,400
So those bit, those are big
things in those releases and

1106
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:44,700
stuff like that.
And then the next thing that you

1107
01:02:44,700 --> 01:02:47,200
want to look at with that weird
eye receiver is their route.

1108
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:50,800
You know if that care if he's
supposed to be if he's get off

1109
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:54,300
coverage and he's supposed to be
running a slant, is he running

1110
01:02:54,300 --> 01:02:57,100
up sticking his foot in the
ground and taking the slant

1111
01:02:57,100 --> 01:03:04,500
right now, from 5 yards to six
and a half yards or if he kind

1112
01:03:04,500 --> 01:03:08,900
of rounding it off at 5 and
making it to about, Tate is he

1113
01:03:08,900 --> 01:03:13,200
really running a post instead of
a sling, it's all about the

1114
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:18,700
depth of things because if
you're running against a typical

1115
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:22,600
typical one high safety look,
you know, and we want you to run

1116
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:25,500
a slant because we ran the
bubble with the back behind you.

1117
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:30,600
The linebacker is dropping 45
from four and a half or five

1118
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:37,500
yards to about seven or eight.
Okay, if you run that slant from

1119
01:03:37,500 --> 01:03:40,200
five to six and a half, you're
going to stay underneath that

1120
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:43,900
linebacker which gives you an
advantage if you run it too far

1121
01:03:43,900 --> 01:03:46,300
high that linebacker can cut you
off.

1122
01:03:47,900 --> 01:03:50,000
Okay.
Well regardless of the

1123
01:03:50,008 --> 01:03:52,700
linebacker, if you cut that
thing and you get to that six

1124
01:03:52,700 --> 01:03:56,400
and a half and then you build to
the seven, you're above the

1125
01:03:56,400 --> 01:04:00,000
middle linebacker by about two
yards and still under the

1126
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:03,400
safety.
If you cheated it too much, and

1127
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:07,100
you got to that eight, eight and
a half yards, you may be running

1128
01:04:07,100 --> 01:04:09,500
it at free safety, this not
dropping so hard because they're

1129
01:04:09,500 --> 01:04:10,200
out there.
Sure.

1130
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:13,300
So it's all about how they're
running that route and where

1131
01:04:13,300 --> 01:04:17,300
that space and comes in because
I mean a matter of three or four

1132
01:04:17,300 --> 01:04:20,500
inches can, can mean you catch
any ball or the defender

1133
01:04:20,500 --> 01:04:21,900
catching the ball.
Yep.

1134
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:25,000
So those routes have to be
crispy things.

1135
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:29,000
So things like that.
We let me ask you this, do you

1136
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:31,400
care so much with the wide
receiver when you're evaluating

1137
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:38,700
Awaiting them, the catch itself,
I do not why, and I don't get a

1138
01:04:38,707 --> 01:04:41,800
lot of chance to evaluate
receivers and a lot of these

1139
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:45,300
camps.
Um, but I don't take a lot on

1140
01:04:45,300 --> 01:04:48,400
that simply because 9 times out
of 10.

1141
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:52,900
These kids are at camp.
And there, you know, this kid is

1142
01:04:52,900 --> 01:04:57,200
from Rose High School in.
The next kid is from, you know,

1143
01:04:57,200 --> 01:05:00,000
Cape Fear, High School in the
next kid is from Havelock, high

1144
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:06,000
school and the quarterback is
from, you know, Meadowbrook in

1145
01:05:06,100 --> 01:05:07,900
Richmond.
Yeah.

1146
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:12,000
Well, he's never played with
these three kids, he does the

1147
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:15,000
timings different.
This quarterback may be

1148
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:17,500
left-handed compared to all
three of those receivers

1149
01:05:17,500 --> 01:05:19,700
quarterbacks of right-handed,
different spin.

1150
01:05:19,700 --> 01:05:25,100
Yeah, that kid can go out and
get 10 passes thrown to him and

1151
01:05:25,100 --> 01:05:29,400
he catch 2 out of the 10 and I
can still evaluate him as an

1152
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:33,800
exceptional receiver, because I
seen on tape that this kid

1153
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:35,900
catches 85 or Senator ball, is
thrown cool.

1154
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:40,600
But a different quarterbacks.
Go, make a different You know

1155
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:44,400
different altogether in his
evaluation just because the ball

1156
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:47,000
may be throwing different.
Now granted they're going to

1157
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:49,400
have to get used to a different
quarterback sooner or later.

1158
01:05:49,700 --> 01:05:52,700
Yeah.
But there's going to be a lot of

1159
01:05:52,700 --> 01:05:56,600
reps to get through that.
Yeah, it did he may take 10 reps

1160
01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:59,800
at this Camp as a receiver and
Macey five different

1161
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:03,200
quarterbacks.
So the fact that that the

1162
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:06,700
reception or the bones being
caught or things like that, and

1163
01:06:06,700 --> 01:06:10,100
that thing is not the biggest
part of my evaluation by any

1164
01:06:10,100 --> 01:06:13,500
means my evaluation looking at
his footwork, is hands.

1165
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:16,500
Now when he does catch it, what
does he do with the ball as he

1166
01:06:16,500 --> 01:06:19,100
running down the field, like
Primetime Deion Sanders with a

1167
01:06:19,100 --> 01:06:22,300
doubt in his hand like this and
high-stepping or is he got it

1168
01:06:22,300 --> 01:06:24,800
tucked away to make sure that
the safety is not going to knock

1169
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:27,800
it out of his hands or it's not
going to get stripped out you

1170
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:31,200
know like my man for the Buffalo
Bills years.

1171
01:06:31,300 --> 01:06:35,100
To go by.
What's his name in the Super

1172
01:06:35,100 --> 01:06:44,000
Bowl Leon Reynolds?
Yeah, I'll let ya is he putting

1173
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:45,500
it away?
Is he doing what he's supposed

1174
01:06:45,500 --> 01:06:47,600
to do with it?
Is he giving a good first effort

1175
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:50,900
afterwards when he catches it.
Yes, you can evaluate those

1176
01:06:50,900 --> 01:06:55,100
things but I mean if he doesn't
catch a ball I'm not killing

1177
01:06:55,100 --> 01:06:56,700
them on that.
You held the ball might have

1178
01:06:56,700 --> 01:07:00,000
been six feet over his head
because that quarterbacks used

1179
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:03,600
to throw into a six four wide
receivers and just Kiddin sick.

1180
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:09,800
Or like we told him he was he's
only six one part of the

1181
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:13,800
evaluation is not huge to me,
would you?

1182
01:07:14,900 --> 01:07:18,400
I'm sure when we get to the next
part of this thing where we talk

1183
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:20,700
about the quarterbacks, I'll
have a little more to say about

1184
01:07:20,700 --> 01:07:27,500
that as well.
The let's go to 2nd half and

1185
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:32,600
obviously you know so y'all know
if you wondered where this man's

1186
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:36,100
credentials are, Our Robbie
coach Cornell Powell who was

1187
01:07:36,100 --> 01:07:39,200
done at Clemson.
So before we jump to DVDs on ask

1188
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:42,600
one question, you take Cornell
to his first camp like this.

1189
01:07:43,900 --> 01:07:46,600
What was his first thought
because Cornell again got highly

1190
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:49,100
rated goes to Clemson wins.
A national title gets.

1191
01:07:49,100 --> 01:07:53,300
Drafted essentially to the best
offense in the NFL where he

1192
01:07:53,300 --> 01:07:56,800
probably going to be
exceptionally well with cheap.

1193
01:07:56,900 --> 01:07:59,300
But what was his?
What was his mentality going in

1194
01:07:59,300 --> 01:08:02,500
there?
The first time compared to when

1195
01:08:02,500 --> 01:08:05,700
you guys were going to those
Junior days when he was on

1196
01:08:05,700 --> 01:08:16,000
everybody's radar Cornell. just,
Look, I love to kid to death and

1197
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:22,300
and whatever you do, you're a
draft party had this.

1198
01:08:22,500 --> 01:08:27,100
He had this or about himself and
it was well deserved because he

1199
01:08:27,100 --> 01:08:31,399
was nine times out of ten when
he stepped on the field, it

1200
01:08:31,399 --> 01:08:33,800
didn't matter who else on the
field he was best athlete out

1201
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:35,200
there.
Plain and simple.

1202
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:41,800
And Cornell probably a little
different than, you know, it's

1203
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:44,600
hard to compare him to
contagious because contagious

1204
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:48,000
was a defensive lineman and
things like that.

1205
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:51,000
But when it comes to the
situation and the camps and

1206
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:53,800
things of that nature, it was a
much different story with

1207
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:56,700
Cornell and it was contagious.
We got Kentavious in there.

1208
01:08:56,700 --> 01:09:00,100
We started getting him to camps
and it was kind of reintroducing

1209
01:09:00,100 --> 01:09:01,200
him.
Yep.

1210
01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:03,899
He's, we're just finally finding
out about it.

1211
01:09:04,300 --> 01:09:08,200
Okay, when we got caught,
Janelle to those camps between

1212
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:10,399
his his sophomore and junior
year.

1213
01:09:10,399 --> 01:09:13,399
So the junior camps where he's
really being recruited,

1214
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:18,000
everybody knew who he was, the
reason they knew who it was is

1215
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:21,000
because he was showing up
showing out and showing off

1216
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:23,700
every game that they came to
watch contagious.

1217
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:29,700
They knew who Cornell power was
then, got you?

1218
01:09:29,700 --> 01:09:33,899
I mean that that kind of helped
boost some things Cornell will I

1219
01:09:33,899 --> 01:09:37,899
if I remember correctly Cornell
got his very first offer from

1220
01:09:37,899 --> 01:09:46,500
Ole Miss. on the night of the
third round.

1221
01:09:47,100 --> 01:09:51,200
So the day after Thanksgiving,
the third round playoff game

1222
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:54,800
against our biggest rival.
DH Conley in 2013.

1223
01:09:55,800 --> 01:10:03,100
Well the week before that we had
played at Cape Fear.

1224
01:10:05,500 --> 01:10:11,100
And Cornell, there was a, the
defensive coordinator for LSU

1225
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:21,000
was, there was actually changed.
Then defensive line coach, which

1226
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:25,200
was Lane kiffin is younger.
Brother for Ole Miss.

1227
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:28,200
Both of them were watching
contagious.

1228
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:32,400
And I mean, of course, content
can take.

1229
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:34,100
This was a senior.
Yeah.

1230
01:10:34,300 --> 01:10:37,700
Made this commitment.
He was, I mean, he was very much

1231
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:44,100
being recruited. and, Cornell
goes out in the first game

1232
01:10:44,100 --> 01:10:47,700
scores three touchdowns.
He's by far the player to game.

1233
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:57,700
The it was not Cape Fear.
It was I can't remember Troy.

1234
01:10:58,100 --> 01:11:02,800
What's his name seen?
The I can tell you this, it was

1235
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:10,400
the team that we played had to
Future College all Americans on

1236
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:13,200
the team.
They had a kid named Gilyard to

1237
01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:16,400
played center for three years
for the University of Georgia.

1238
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:22,900
He was a defensive lineman for
them and then what was the other

1239
01:11:22,900 --> 01:11:25,600
kids name?
He's an outside linebacker.

1240
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:31,500
Now for the Titans and he played
at Boston College.

1241
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:40,400
Anyway, both of those guys on
the team, we played them.

1242
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:45,300
And you know we were in the 11
seed in the playoffs they were

1243
01:11:45,300 --> 01:11:48,200
number three, this time for
sound.

1244
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:50,500
It Pine Forest.
That's not terrible.

1245
01:11:50,500 --> 01:11:54,500
Injury Harold, Landry.
That's it Harold Landry.

1246
01:11:54,500 --> 01:11:57,400
The Gilyard Gilyard played
defensive lineman for he was a

1247
01:11:57,400 --> 01:12:00,000
monster.
We told her off, we told her

1248
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:02,800
offensive coordinator from the
start, you ain't running nothing

1249
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:09,300
inside it's a late in the third
quarter track to a guy and that

1250
01:12:09,300 --> 01:12:17,700
cat 80 like Pac-Man and I
talked, I told I told her head

1251
01:12:17,700 --> 01:12:19,800
coach the towers.
I little, we got, we're gonna

1252
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:23,200
have to put the ball in the air.
I was like, we don't get, we

1253
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:24,800
will get the third down.
We're going to throw it to

1254
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:26,800
Cornell.
He'll score on the third, play

1255
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:29,500
the game.
But you know, we got to put the

1256
01:12:29,500 --> 01:12:31,100
ball in the air.
We got to make these kids run

1257
01:12:31,100 --> 01:12:34,500
side to side.
Third played a game Cornell

1258
01:12:34,500 --> 01:12:37,700
scores of 47 yard touchdown
because I knew what was about to

1259
01:12:37,708 --> 01:12:49,900
happen.
We do hold on the field at all

1260
01:12:49,900 --> 01:12:53,400
times.
So when that offense goes out

1261
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:56,500
there, he's got to take over,
not only does he know, he's the

1262
01:12:56,500 --> 01:13:01,700
best player on the field in his
mind that they've got two or

1263
01:13:01,700 --> 01:13:04,300
three D bees, that are fairly
highly recruited.

1264
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:08,500
And he says, if I go out and I
show what I can do against these

1265
01:13:08,500 --> 01:13:13,000
guys to these coaches sitting
here, that it's going to put me

1266
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:16,000
on the map.
When I go to camps, they're

1267
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:17,500
going to know who I am
beforehand.

1268
01:13:17,900 --> 01:13:19,100
Yep.
And that's what he did.

1269
01:13:19,100 --> 01:13:21,900
He went out there and did it.
Why do you say that again?

1270
01:13:22,300 --> 01:13:25,500
You know, of course Pine Forest.
Coach comes across and tells us,

1271
01:13:25,500 --> 01:13:29,700
you know, y'all ain't got but
one y'all ain't got but one

1272
01:13:29,700 --> 01:13:31,600
All-American on that team and
that's number three.

1273
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:34,800
That's the wide receiver because
your defense then didn't do

1274
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:40,200
nothing against us.
Well, they ran 64 please and 57

1275
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:42,000
of them were opposite.
Of can take you the truth.

1276
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:55,500
I wouldn't run it.
Was probably the best football

1277
01:13:55,500 --> 01:14:00,500
player that I've ever coached.
He went to Campbell University

1278
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:02,800
played fullback and then
defensive end.

1279
01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:07,300
So I mean, but we know about can
take your street going to help

1280
01:14:07,300 --> 01:14:11,400
out but Christian Pleasant.
It was one of the best football

1281
01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:14,200
players I've ever coached, but
he was under sized.

1282
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:18,300
Yeah, and that goes to the camp
thing with the size and things

1283
01:14:18,300 --> 01:14:21,000
of that nature.
He was absolutely incredible,

1284
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:24,600
and he shut the game down and
made it look that way.

1285
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:31,400
Anyway, the very weary internet
game, And Coach Chavis and Coach

1286
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:34,000
kit for understanding there.
And they told Cornell, you know,

1287
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:37,300
that's an amazing game.
You know, we're going to, we're

1288
01:14:37,300 --> 01:14:38,800
going to take your information
down.

1289
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:41,800
Will be watching you, things of
that nature because Cornell this

1290
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:43,900
point use the 10th grader, you
just a sophomore.

1291
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:47,700
So do you know, would you know,
make sure you get in touch with

1292
01:14:47,700 --> 01:14:50,700
us, you know, if you to Camp,
will get you talking to our

1293
01:14:50,700 --> 01:14:52,900
position coaches things like
that.

1294
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:57,200
Well, Cornell being the kitty is
especially at that point he

1295
01:14:57,200 --> 01:14:58,900
goes.
You think that was something

1296
01:14:59,100 --> 01:15:02,400
that you guys come to the game
next week he goes you thought

1297
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:05,100
those three wind pressure almost
45 next week.

1298
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:13,600
Yeah, coach Kevin said I bet you
score five next week.

1299
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:15,000
I will get you that off.
Her.

1300
01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:21,900
Let's just say after that next
game, the next week coach, Kevin

1301
01:15:21,900 --> 01:15:24,900
was on the phone at that time,
when Hugh freeze going, hey,

1302
01:15:25,300 --> 01:15:28,400
where we gotta get this kid
offer, he just, he scored eight

1303
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:32,800
touchdowns and two games.
He scored in five against Conley

1304
01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:34,700
and we won that game and moved
on.

1305
01:15:35,100 --> 01:15:40,000
So then you put a bar out there,
he's gonna jump over.

1306
01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:44,600
Oh absolutely Cornell.
Having Kentavious, having

1307
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:49,200
someone that hydrated?
They show up, he shows out, he's

1308
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:52,300
not coming out of nowhere, he's
going after Camp.

1309
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:59,400
If you don't know nothing here
as the stomach he's here is when

1310
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:08,900
he walks in the door, he's
having to do Cornell walks into

1311
01:16:08,900 --> 01:16:11,600
a camp, he's the fifth rate of
receiver in the country.

1312
01:16:11,900 --> 01:16:15,000
He's got offers from 30
institutions.

1313
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:23,300
Would he be things was that if
theres chibi's are highly rated?

1314
01:16:24,300 --> 01:16:26,700
They're getting in there getting
in line, they're going I want

1315
01:16:26,700 --> 01:16:29,700
Cornell power.
I'm going to shut him down.

1316
01:16:29,900 --> 01:16:32,400
Didn't work very often, but
that's their mindset.

1317
01:16:32,500 --> 01:16:34,900
Okay.
Another part of them that look

1318
01:16:34,900 --> 01:16:37,800
at that line and go.
There's Cornell Powell.

1319
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:43,400
He's one, two, three.
One, two, three, four, five.

1320
01:16:46,300 --> 01:17:01,100
Trying to get out of that place.
So you got you got prime time

1321
01:17:01,100 --> 01:17:03,100
and you got some people that are
thinking a little bit.

1322
01:17:03,100 --> 01:17:03,900
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.

1323
01:17:04,900 --> 01:17:06,900
Oh yeah.
You always do have that one.

1324
01:17:07,100 --> 01:17:08,700
You always behind that one.
DB.

1325
01:17:08,900 --> 01:17:11,800
I'm the best DB out here.
Put me against anybody and

1326
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:17,300
everybody scorches that cat
because he's never right.

1327
01:17:17,300 --> 01:17:22,200
He, I'm impressed everybody and
he slows, you know what, and it

1328
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:26,800
does not work.
But I mean ID please.

1329
01:17:28,100 --> 01:17:32,300
The DVDs, which you got to look
at is that you've got to see

1330
01:17:32,300 --> 01:17:33,500
them.
Understand?

1331
01:17:33,900 --> 01:17:36,900
Okay.
If I know I'm going against the

1332
01:17:36,900 --> 01:17:42,800
Primetime man in this camp.
Am I going to step up there now?

1333
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:45,000
The coach may tell you you're
going to press man right here.

1334
01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:47,600
Okay.
If I'm going to press man, what

1335
01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:50,200
do I have to do to take
advantage of this?

1336
01:17:50,700 --> 01:17:54,000
Is this kid, is this cat going
to beat me physically right from

1337
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:57,100
the play or see a finesse guy
that's going to beat me with his

1338
01:17:57,100 --> 01:17:59,900
footwork and get vertical,
things of that nature and then

1339
01:17:59,900 --> 01:18:03,000
burn me with his speed you're
going to you're going to see

1340
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:06,100
those guys start to process that
and it all goes back to the same

1341
01:18:06,100 --> 01:18:08,500
thing.
The hand placement their, their,

1342
01:18:08,900 --> 01:18:14,100
their footwork, And and the way
they cover out the way they

1343
01:18:14,100 --> 01:18:17,200
close separation when it's
created and things like that.

1344
01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:20,700
That's what you have to evaluate
their and that's evaluating

1345
01:18:20,700 --> 01:18:24,200
different ways.
Whether it's Pressman or excuse

1346
01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:27,800
me off, man, to Zone type
coverage.

1347
01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:32,900
I mean, when you when you get
into that off, man, playing

1348
01:18:32,900 --> 01:18:37,200
against that receiver.
You instantly create separation.

1349
01:18:38,300 --> 01:18:42,600
So it during that play, Are you
able to close that separation?

1350
01:18:42,900 --> 01:18:45,800
When you see that receiver, Make
That Swing.

1351
01:18:46,700 --> 01:18:49,900
Are you able to close that
separation when he makes a

1352
01:18:49,907 --> 01:18:53,400
double move to the slant, you
come down and he goes vertical

1353
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:55,500
and beat you?
Do you have the speed to catch

1354
01:18:55,500 --> 01:18:57,700
up with it?
You know, those types of things

1355
01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:03,200
and a lot of that can go into
how that DB processes it and how

1356
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:07,000
that DB You know please
everything particular.

1357
01:19:07,300 --> 01:19:10,900
We had a DB a couple years ago.
He's a Randolph-Macon now go.

1358
01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:15,000
Sorry, huh.
I'm not trying to not trying to

1359
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:19,500
promote the game, the greatest
rivalry in the South whatever,

1360
01:19:19,900 --> 01:19:23,900
but I'm pretty sure you know,
that happens every year.

1361
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:26,600
And I think next year, it's
going to be at Hampton Sydney.

1362
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:28,200
If anybody wants to go out,
check it out.

1363
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:30,400
Should be, I go again, right?
I'll be there.

1364
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:34,200
All right.
Now, probably will be to and,

1365
01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:36,600
you know, I'm not above a cheap
promotion here if you haven't

1366
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:51,900
figured that out yet.
But anyway, the The kid was was

1367
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:55,700
under sized but an exceptional
DB.

1368
01:19:56,500 --> 01:19:59,600
And one thing I always noticed
about and we he with the camps

1369
01:20:00,100 --> 01:20:04,900
was he was going to make sure
that he found out who the

1370
01:20:04,900 --> 01:20:09,800
exceptional receivers were in
that particular camp and he was

1371
01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:11,800
going to find out what they did
best.

1372
01:20:12,500 --> 01:20:16,600
You know, we're there thing
where they speed receiver there

1373
01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:18,400
was getting vertical and beating
people there.

1374
01:20:19,300 --> 01:20:22,600
Are they somebody took advantage
of the separation and did well

1375
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:26,000
on it on the slant sort of
things like that and he would

1376
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:29,900
play, he would set his self up.
If he was given the opportunity,

1377
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:33,300
he would set his self up to play
them the best that he could,

1378
01:20:33,300 --> 01:20:35,600
possibly play to make himself
look the best.

1379
01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:39,700
He could, if he had a receipt
with that, he knew was was going

1380
01:20:39,700 --> 01:20:43,600
to play vertical and run fast
and was faster than you.

1381
01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:48,800
He played softer me, And he knew
exactly when to turn, he wasn't

1382
01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:51,100
going to he wasn't going to let
the receiver force him.

1383
01:20:51,300 --> 01:20:54,800
He had in his mind, he had said
his game plan that he knew what

1384
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:58,400
he was gonna do and he could do
that with watching that receiver

1385
01:20:58,500 --> 01:21:03,400
three please.
He knew what he wanted to do and

1386
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:08,100
that just come from his
preparation and rarely did he

1387
01:21:08,100 --> 01:21:12,200
get beat in any of those
situations in Camp?

1388
01:21:13,700 --> 01:21:16,800
He could come up and he knew
that receiver was gonna maybe

1389
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:19,400
that receiver was faster than
him and everything like that,

1390
01:21:19,500 --> 01:21:22,200
but he knew that the receiver
didn't get bitten, get a good

1391
01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:25,300
release off the line.
So he'd press it and beat him

1392
01:21:25,300 --> 01:21:28,300
right there and never have to
worry about the speed that the

1393
01:21:28,300 --> 01:21:32,100
kid, and that was just what he
did and coaches evaluate at that

1394
01:21:32,100 --> 01:21:36,500
and saw that.
And they said, okay, yes, he is.

1395
01:21:36,900 --> 01:21:43,300
He is 59 and three quarters but
he's got sixty eight and a half.

1396
01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:46,600
Shriek his arms are long and he
can tie his shoes standing

1397
01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:49,600
straight up.
His arms are so long minions.

1398
01:21:49,900 --> 01:21:53,800
He his body length was freakish.
Yeah.

1399
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:55,900
And he can diagnose, why he with
anybody?

1400
01:21:56,500 --> 01:22:02,500
Because of his intellect.
But his measurables like his

1401
01:22:02,500 --> 01:22:05,600
height and thing like that
they'd go, I don't know.

1402
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:08,000
They would question it but then
they watch him when he feel.

1403
01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:09,600
And that's where that camp comes
in.

1404
01:22:09,900 --> 01:22:12,200
Will you can look at these
little things of his height and

1405
01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:13,300
go.
Yeah, he's not big enough to

1406
01:22:13,300 --> 01:22:17,600
play this type of football, but
then when you watch him, play

1407
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:19,100
you go.
Well, he makes up for it in

1408
01:22:19,100 --> 01:22:22,100
other ways.
That's where those evaluations

1409
01:22:22,100 --> 01:22:24,700
and things come in because he
could clone he could close any

1410
01:22:24,700 --> 01:22:28,600
Gap and he could take away to
get from the start if he didn't

1411
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:34,000
want you to have one.
And he had he had makeup speed

1412
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:36,000
to take away two vertical.
If he got beat.

1413
01:22:36,700 --> 01:22:39,800
I mean he was just he was just
act like a player and I mean

1414
01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:45,200
it's showing now he started he
started six of the seven games

1415
01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:47,700
and making this year as a true
freshman.

1416
01:22:48,100 --> 01:22:51,000
Oh wow did he be?
So let me ask you this Robbie

1417
01:22:51,900 --> 01:22:54,800
you know we've been going
through DB here it looks like DB

1418
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:58,500
from an evaluation standpoint.
It seems to be like you can kind

1419
01:22:58,500 --> 01:23:01,900
of get the most Shin out of that
position at these types of

1420
01:23:01,900 --> 01:23:04,800
cancer, that be true.
I think you can get the most

1421
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:09,600
evaluation that these camps from
in the wide receiver and

1422
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:14,400
defensive back, kind of groups
because you could you get to see

1423
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:19,300
that competition more and I
mean, let's face it.

1424
01:23:19,300 --> 01:23:22,400
Most of them, they don't like to
be hit touched pushed around and

1425
01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:25,600
stuff for start with.
So not having pads on really

1426
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:28,100
doesn't affect them that much.
Yeah, it really doesn't.

1427
01:23:28,100 --> 01:23:31,200
I mean, why receiver or DB it's
Ness game.

1428
01:23:33,500 --> 01:23:36,000
It gets physical with them when
they get to the middle and have

1429
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:38,900
to deal with that, that strong
safety or the free safety of the

1430
01:23:38,900 --> 01:23:40,500
linebackers and things like
that.

1431
01:23:40,700 --> 01:23:42,500
But in the one-on-ones that
stuff's not there.

1432
01:23:43,300 --> 01:23:48,000
So I mean you really get to
evaluate how they position

1433
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:50,900
themselves, how they do their
footwork, how they do, the

1434
01:23:50,900 --> 01:23:54,100
things that they do.
And it's, that's probably the

1435
01:23:54,100 --> 01:23:57,400
best time to do it.
And those situations now, once

1436
01:23:57,400 --> 01:23:59,700
again, when it comes to the ball
coming in, like we talked about

1437
01:23:59,700 --> 01:24:04,400
the Running backs and receivers.
I don't put a lot of focus on

1438
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:08,000
the kept every time simply
because it may be coming from a

1439
01:24:08,008 --> 01:24:09,700
different quarterback that
they're not used to.

1440
01:24:09,900 --> 01:24:13,000
It may not be the placement,
they're not used to and that

1441
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:17,900
takes time to build.
But I mean that's just yeah, I

1442
01:24:17,900 --> 01:24:20,400
would definitely say that that's
one of the best places to see

1443
01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:23,900
those.
Let's move on to the franchise

1444
01:24:23,900 --> 01:24:27,300
player, the quarterback, how our
quarterbacks evaluated these

1445
01:24:27,300 --> 01:24:30,400
camps.
And now I'm going to tell you

1446
01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:34,200
what as I told you my, with my
coaching experience and all

1447
01:24:34,208 --> 01:24:36,900
those things.
Now, I did work with

1448
01:24:37,300 --> 01:24:43,300
quarterbacks at two camps.
I think simply because of the

1449
01:24:43,300 --> 01:24:48,100
fact that we took multiple
coaches, we had multiple coaches

1450
01:24:48,100 --> 01:24:50,900
at different positions and I
would volunteer to go somewhere

1451
01:24:50,900 --> 01:24:52,600
else.
I'm the kind of Coach.

1452
01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:55,700
And my mind, I don't have to
stay in one place to learn

1453
01:24:55,700 --> 01:24:57,400
something.
I can go learn something in any

1454
01:24:57,400 --> 01:25:00,400
position that I can take back
with our coach ammonite.

1455
01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:04,400
I can give it to her coach on
our staff, that something I may

1456
01:25:04,400 --> 01:25:06,200
have learned.
From there, I'll go to any

1457
01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:08,900
place.
They are if it's going to help I

1458
01:25:08,900 --> 01:25:11,600
work with quarterbacks a couple
times when you go to these

1459
01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:15,600
one-on-ones and the things like
that in my opinion.

1460
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:19,000
And from what I saw those kids,
there's very little evaluation

1461
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:23,700
going with the quarterbacks Nose
one-on-ones, when they're

1462
01:25:23,700 --> 01:25:26,300
throwing to the running backs
and receivers.

1463
01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:32,500
Simply because again the timings
different, the receivers are

1464
01:25:32,500 --> 01:25:35,000
different.
They may be running routes that

1465
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:39,200
that quarterback is not used to
you know to throw in things of

1466
01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:42,000
that nature.
Now you can see a quarterback

1467
01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:45,700
make amazing throws and good
back shoulder throws.

1468
01:25:46,700 --> 01:25:50,300
Perfectly placed deep balls.
In some of those situations you

1469
01:25:50,300 --> 01:25:55,300
can see some good things but I
don't see where they evaluating

1470
01:25:55,300 --> 01:25:59,300
hold it against a lot of them in
those because of those things

1471
01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:03,300
you can tell the exceptional
plays but you can't really tell

1472
01:26:03,300 --> 01:26:06,100
how how bad a bad play is
absolutely.

1473
01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:16,600
So what's go then what's the
weather is when they snap or

1474
01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:19,600
they take that ball and they
take their three steps before

1475
01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:21,900
they throw it with.
They're evaluating is there.

1476
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:25,100
Footwork there ball placement,
where the both hands on the

1477
01:26:25,100 --> 01:26:29,000
ball, the balls, High secure,
things of that nature, but they

1478
01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:32,800
get a lot of that in those
individual drills to okay, the

1479
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:38,000
drills before they get to the 10
once the the only thing they

1480
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:42,100
they can really see in my
opinion in the one-on-ones is

1481
01:26:42,100 --> 01:26:46,500
the is that you know ball
placement and their mechanics of

1482
01:26:46,500 --> 01:26:49,500
everything.
And now you wait a little bit

1483
01:26:49,500 --> 01:26:53,400
there, but I mean, you're not
going to see time and you're not

1484
01:26:53,400 --> 01:26:56,500
going to see them reading a lot,
especially with one-on-one.

1485
01:26:56,800 --> 01:26:59,900
Now in the seven on seven
things, okay, maybe it's some of

1486
01:26:59,900 --> 01:27:03,700
the seven on seven camps, you
can start to see them read pull

1487
01:27:03,700 --> 01:27:06,200
the safety off, things of that
nature.

1488
01:27:06,700 --> 01:27:09,000
But what you're going to see in
those individual drills with the

1489
01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:12,400
quarterbacks is when they take
that three step drop of their

1490
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:16,100
feet too wide to be able to
throw with any power or their

1491
01:27:16,100 --> 01:27:19,200
feet too close together.
Either to be able to get power

1492
01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:24,400
onto the ball when they Sprint
out or rollout of a square in

1493
01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:29,200
their shoulders, to the line of
scrimmage, to throw it back when

1494
01:27:29,200 --> 01:27:33,400
I was playing ball.
And when I first started

1495
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:36,600
coaching, are they sprinting out
and throwing it back across

1496
01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:37,700
field?
God help them.

1497
01:27:37,700 --> 01:27:41,100
They shouldn't be doing that
quarterbacks nowadays, like

1498
01:27:41,100 --> 01:27:45,100
this, what they want them to do.
Patrick groans and dog on

1499
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:48,500
Russell Wilson, roll run.
They are the dogon set of

1500
01:27:48,500 --> 01:27:52,600
numbers.
I don't know but I mean that's a

1501
01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:54,800
style of play it's coming now.
Oh yeah.

1502
01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:58,800
You can you can tell you used to
be like breaking every rule if a

1503
01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:00,500
quarterback turned their back to
the rush.

1504
01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:01,900
Yeah they'll all be Russell
Wilson.

1505
01:28:01,900 --> 01:28:04,800
Does it five six times a game?
You won't go out and you pass

1506
01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:06,900
the Hat.
You better not be throwing

1507
01:28:06,900 --> 01:28:10,000
plastic.
That's just forbidden.

1508
01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:12,800
And now we'll roll it in numbers
and throw to the other side

1509
01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:15,100
line.
It'll be all right, but would

1510
01:28:15,100 --> 01:28:17,200
they got quarterbacks that have
that strength now?

1511
01:28:17,500 --> 01:28:21,000
Yes they do.
So we're loose if they got

1512
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:22,600
bigger arms.
Yeah.

1513
01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:24,200
Absolutely.
What a backs are going to be

1514
01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:29,700
evaluated more in my mind on
that in those individual drills

1515
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:33,800
and little bitty mechanic things
during the one-on-ones, and not

1516
01:28:33,800 --> 01:28:35,700
about their completion
percentage.

1517
01:28:35,700 --> 01:28:38,300
And, and, and things of that
nature.

1518
01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:41,500
Because I mean, they're just not
used to the timing and the

1519
01:28:41,500 --> 01:28:44,300
things of those receivers.
It's just, it's hard to do.

1520
01:28:44,600 --> 01:28:46,600
I mean, it's really from the
food.

1521
01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:49,500
And if you get up, Get a
mechanic issue where that that

1522
01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:53,300
throwing motion is way too slow
or way too long you might have

1523
01:28:53,700 --> 01:28:56,100
some.
Yeah, that's when that's, when

1524
01:28:56,100 --> 01:29:01,900
that slant turns into the post
because we got away from here

1525
01:29:02,200 --> 01:29:05,500
and drop all the way down and
come over the top row and here

1526
01:29:05,500 --> 01:29:08,900
passing through.
I mean it makes a world of

1527
01:29:08,907 --> 01:29:10,800
difference in the timing and
things of that nature.

1528
01:29:11,900 --> 01:29:15,100
So I'm just going to guess on
this and then we'll move on but

1529
01:29:15,100 --> 01:29:17,000
I'm guessing with the
quarterbacks it's going to be

1530
01:29:17,200 --> 01:29:22,800
the actual film where they're
playing week to week and is what

1531
01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:25,800
I see in Camp.
Here he is good footwork, good

1532
01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:27,700
placement.
Good arm motion.

1533
01:29:28,300 --> 01:29:30,300
Is he doing that?
When there's six guys in front

1534
01:29:30,300 --> 01:29:32,100
of him about to kill him?
Absolutely.

1535
01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:36,200
Well, if he's taking the here to
here, then we now we cooking.

1536
01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:40,000
Yeah.
What comes down to is it's a

1537
01:29:40,008 --> 01:29:43,300
camp.
You have to be able to take what

1538
01:29:43,300 --> 01:29:47,900
you can get from the camp out of
it, and you can expect to come

1539
01:29:47,900 --> 01:29:52,300
into camp with nobody ever.
Heard your name and walk out of

1540
01:29:52,300 --> 01:29:55,000
there being the number one
prospect on the list because

1541
01:29:55,000 --> 01:29:56,700
they're not going to see
everything in a can.

1542
01:29:57,700 --> 01:30:00,400
It's going to be a combination
of how you perform at that camp.

1543
01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:04,500
Things that you show the film
that you put out the consistent

1544
01:30:04,500 --> 01:30:07,600
numbers and statistics you put
up, it's a combination of all

1545
01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:10,800
those things.
I mean, It is what it is.

1546
01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:14,100
I mean, the camp is as an
opportunity for you to show off

1547
01:30:14,500 --> 01:30:16,900
the things that, you know, you
can do well, right then and

1548
01:30:16,900 --> 01:30:19,600
there.
But you have to understand that

1549
01:30:19,900 --> 01:30:22,400
some of the things they're not
going to see it as camps.

1550
01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:26,200
Just like we have to understand
this coaches that there's just

1551
01:30:26,200 --> 01:30:27,900
some things, we all can see it
at Camp.

1552
01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:30,100
Okay?
There's just some things that

1553
01:30:30,100 --> 01:30:35,700
they're not going to learn how
to let me ask this probably You,

1554
01:30:35,700 --> 01:30:40,600
you've been an evaluator there?
When are they asking you and

1555
01:30:40,600 --> 01:30:42,900
talking to you about what you're
seeing on these individual

1556
01:30:42,900 --> 01:30:46,900
drills are one-on-ones?
Is it something that the camp

1557
01:30:46,900 --> 01:30:48,200
server and everybody's getting
together?

1558
01:30:48,200 --> 01:30:50,000
You're taking your notes or is
it?

1559
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:53,600
You know?
When is it a lot of?

1560
01:30:53,900 --> 01:30:55,800
Like we said before when they
come in?

1561
01:30:55,800 --> 01:30:58,800
You know, there's a lot of that
registration time period at the

1562
01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:00,100
beginning.
Yeah.

1563
01:31:00,300 --> 01:31:04,200
All right you're as they're
coming in and they're getting

1564
01:31:04,200 --> 01:31:05,600
stretched.
Eh, they're getting warmed up

1565
01:31:05,600 --> 01:31:08,100
there, doing all this, they're
working with the strength and

1566
01:31:08,100 --> 01:31:11,200
conditioning staff, things like
that, to get warm and and we

1567
01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:17,600
want to sweat, we want them,
warm broke in sweating, loose,

1568
01:31:17,800 --> 01:31:20,800
ready to do, everything is when
you give your best performance,

1569
01:31:21,100 --> 01:31:22,300
okay?
They've got that.

1570
01:31:22,300 --> 01:31:27,600
Say they're going to do Dynamic
stretching and mobility and all

1571
01:31:27,600 --> 01:31:29,400
that stuff before they ever do
that testing.

1572
01:31:29,800 --> 01:31:33,300
They're going to run, you know,
a half mile for they ever get

1573
01:31:33,300 --> 01:31:35,900
that test and started.
So, they're going to be nice and

1574
01:31:35,900 --> 01:31:39,700
warm, and ready to go.
Well, as they're coming in, you

1575
01:31:39,700 --> 01:31:43,700
know, and in the cases that I
remember of working with them,

1576
01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:46,900
the kids are coming in and I'm
standing there talking to the

1577
01:31:46,900 --> 01:31:51,200
position coach.
Okay, I was say I was at one of

1578
01:31:51,208 --> 01:31:53,500
the camps at NC State.
I'm standing there with the

1579
01:31:53,500 --> 01:31:57,700
position coach, and as a kids
are coming in, he will tell me.

1580
01:31:57,700 --> 01:31:59,900
Oh, that's you know, so and
stuff.

1581
01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:03,100
You know where we're recruiting
him.

1582
01:32:03,100 --> 01:32:09,200
He's, you know, he's a three
star defensive end from such and

1583
01:32:09,200 --> 01:32:18,000
such high school, we think he's
about 63, you know, 245 pounds,

1584
01:32:18,100 --> 01:32:20,500
whatever.
If we really want to, make sure

1585
01:32:20,500 --> 01:32:23,900
we take a look at him and then
you see him as he checks in, he

1586
01:32:23,900 --> 01:32:27,400
gets his jersey, or is it has
compression shirt or whatever?

1587
01:32:27,600 --> 01:32:29,400
It's got a number on it or the
banner.

1588
01:32:29,400 --> 01:32:32,500
He's got a number on it but it's
got a number written on his arm

1589
01:32:32,500 --> 01:32:34,300
whatever.
So you start to look at that

1590
01:32:34,300 --> 01:32:38,300
number and you know and it's
highlighted on the on the sheet

1591
01:32:38,300 --> 01:32:42,100
that you may have or whatnot.
You know guy that they're

1592
01:32:42,100 --> 01:32:46,500
looking at well, they come in,
they do all their tests and they

1593
01:32:46,500 --> 01:32:52,100
do all that stuff and You know,
we're talking about that.

1594
01:32:52,100 --> 01:32:55,100
So then after they do all their
tests and they do all that to

1595
01:32:55,100 --> 01:32:58,200
get broken into their specific
position drills.

1596
01:32:58,700 --> 01:33:04,700
Okay, now I wanted to last
campsite work there, that was

1597
01:33:05,800 --> 01:33:13,100
myself the position GA and then
to current players, okay?

1598
01:33:14,000 --> 01:33:19,900
And what we did was we had, I
don't know 20 2530 defensive

1599
01:33:19,900 --> 01:33:23,900
lineman at the camp.
So what we did was we split them

1600
01:33:23,900 --> 01:33:26,200
by groups.
Okay.

1601
01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:31,400
So if you're you know you're
Rising freshman, you go over

1602
01:33:31,400 --> 01:33:36,300
here with player number one, if
you're a rising sophomore, you

1603
01:33:36,300 --> 01:33:40,100
go here with quite a number two,
if you're a rising.

1604
01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:47,700
Junior you go right here with
you know coach competent.

1605
01:33:47,900 --> 01:33:53,100
If you're a rising senior you go
right over here with the ga and

1606
01:33:53,200 --> 01:33:56,100
you know they split them up that
way some of them, put them up

1607
01:33:56,100 --> 01:33:59,200
different ways you know you're a
defensive end, you go over here,

1608
01:33:59,300 --> 01:34:02,100
you're a defense, your three
technique, you go here, you're a

1609
01:34:02,108 --> 01:34:08,000
nose, you go here.
This particular one, the the

1610
01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:09,500
defensive line coach went
through.

1611
01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:13,000
He gives give me you for guys,
you go with that guy.

1612
01:34:13,300 --> 01:34:18,000
You five guys go with player.
Number two, I want so-and-so

1613
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:19,600
so-and-so, so-and-so and
so-and-so.

1614
01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:22,900
We have Coach Compton.
And this guy, this guy, this

1615
01:34:22,900 --> 01:34:26,600
guy, this guy with the ga.
Well when you really looked at

1616
01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:29,500
it they had the younger kids
with the players.

1617
01:34:30,500 --> 01:34:35,100
And then they had the kids that
they were actively recruiting or

1618
01:34:35,100 --> 01:34:38,200
could be recruiting or things
like that with me and the ga

1619
01:34:38,600 --> 01:34:45,000
gotcha because the player, you
know why, they know the drills,

1620
01:34:45,000 --> 01:34:48,100
they know the information, they
know the things like that, they

1621
01:34:48,100 --> 01:34:50,700
may not be able to see certain
things.

1622
01:34:52,500 --> 01:34:56,000
To evaluate the way than myself
or TGA may be able to do.

1623
01:34:57,000 --> 01:34:59,900
So, as we're going through the
drills, we're seeing things,

1624
01:35:00,300 --> 01:35:01,700
okay?
So I'm putting the kids through

1625
01:35:01,700 --> 01:35:03,700
the Thrills and I'm seeing their
first step.

1626
01:35:03,700 --> 01:35:05,800
I'm seeing how they're doing
this, how they're doing that.

1627
01:35:06,300 --> 01:35:09,200
And, you know, the defensive
line coach was standing right

1628
01:35:09,200 --> 01:35:11,400
there may be two head coaches
there.

1629
01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:13,800
Maybe they were recruiting
coordinator has walked over and

1630
01:35:13,800 --> 01:35:17,000
seeing that, but most of those
coaches are moving around at

1631
01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:20,400
that particular time.
The defensive line coach should

1632
01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:24,500
have with working with.
He was the Important later and

1633
01:35:24,500 --> 01:35:26,500
he was also the Run game
coordinator.

1634
01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:31,100
So he was moving around.
See, linebackers and DBS.

1635
01:35:31,100 --> 01:35:33,400
And I mean he's moving around to
see things too.

1636
01:35:33,600 --> 01:35:38,300
So he takes a lot of information
from from us of what we see in

1637
01:35:38,300 --> 01:35:42,000
the evaluation.
So we run through say 10 minute,

1638
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:45,500
10, 15 minutes of drill and we
send the kids to go get water

1639
01:35:45,800 --> 01:35:47,800
because it's 110 degrees on the
turf.

1640
01:35:48,200 --> 01:35:49,900
Yep.
Well he comes over and talks to

1641
01:35:49,900 --> 01:35:51,900
us why those kids are running
water.

1642
01:35:52,200 --> 01:35:54,700
Okay, what do you know in this
Grill?

1643
01:35:54,700 --> 01:35:56,500
What did you see?
How did you feel about this?

1644
01:35:57,000 --> 01:35:58,600
So we'll talk about it a little
bit there.

1645
01:35:59,000 --> 01:36:03,500
Okay, well we finish up those
individual drills or we get

1646
01:36:03,500 --> 01:36:06,200
ready to go to 101.
Okay guys, we finished all of

1647
01:36:06,200 --> 01:36:08,900
our individual drills.
What you're going to do, we're

1648
01:36:08,900 --> 01:36:11,500
going to break it down.
You're going to go down to the

1649
01:36:11,500 --> 01:36:14,500
left corner of the end zone down
there, and that's where we're

1650
01:36:14,500 --> 01:36:16,400
going to do one-on-ones against
the o-line.

1651
01:36:17,700 --> 01:36:21,100
So they break down, take off.
Then it baby me.

1652
01:36:21,100 --> 01:36:25,600
That GA the It's Ron coach and
the head coach and they may have

1653
01:36:25,600 --> 01:36:27,800
questions.
And we'll have this kid do in

1654
01:36:27,800 --> 01:36:31,100
this particular thing.
How did they do with this?

1655
01:36:31,200 --> 01:36:32,900
How was their first step with
this?

1656
01:36:33,300 --> 01:36:36,300
If you took these Five Guys,
where would you rank them?

1657
01:36:36,600 --> 01:36:39,800
One through five, who would be
the quiet guy down?

1658
01:36:40,000 --> 01:36:43,200
So we talked about that kind of
stuff for our particular

1659
01:36:43,200 --> 01:36:44,500
position.
Yeah.

1660
01:36:44,800 --> 01:36:48,900
And each position is doing that
every time they can get the kids

1661
01:36:49,400 --> 01:36:52,100
together and you get a free
minute.

1662
01:36:52,200 --> 01:36:57,300
To evaluate I got you, then you
get to the one-on-ones and you

1663
01:36:57,300 --> 01:37:01,000
know, that particular this
particular Camp, I was working

1664
01:37:01,000 --> 01:37:04,900
with defensive line and my head
coach was working with offensive

1665
01:37:04,900 --> 01:37:06,900
line because that was what his
specialty was.

1666
01:37:07,200 --> 01:37:11,400
So now we're at one-on-ones and
it's my head coach and the

1667
01:37:11,400 --> 01:37:14,200
offensive line coach.
And then the defensive line

1668
01:37:14,200 --> 01:37:18,800
coach and myself, we have a
group of one-on-ones and it may

1669
01:37:18,800 --> 01:37:21,900
be there.
Seven best offensive lineman and

1670
01:37:21,900 --> 01:37:23,800
there.
Best defensive lineman that we

1671
01:37:23,800 --> 01:37:26,800
had evaluated anything.
Gotcha.

1672
01:37:26,900 --> 01:37:31,600
And so, you know, it may come
over there and the defensive

1673
01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:34,900
line coach may ask me, he goes
okay, who's the who's the best?

1674
01:37:34,900 --> 01:37:37,300
Who's the highest value?
What you want out of what we've

1675
01:37:37,300 --> 01:37:40,500
seen today?
And I say, you know, jersey

1676
01:37:40,500 --> 01:37:44,500
number 12 and they'll ask
offensive line, coach.

1677
01:37:45,000 --> 01:37:49,200
And my head coach, who was the
top-rated offensive lineman?

1678
01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:54,500
All number 172, okay.
Next time around, we want to see

1679
01:37:54,500 --> 01:37:59,000
number 12, go against 172 so you
know, we can evaluate things

1680
01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:02,700
that way and when it all comes
down to it, okay, after those

1681
01:38:02,700 --> 01:38:06,600
one-on-ones are done, before
they get ready, there's going to

1682
01:38:06,608 --> 01:38:12,300
be a period where they may go
get you know, they're different

1683
01:38:12,300 --> 01:38:15,500
camps, do different things, you
know, you met some of them, you

1684
01:38:15,500 --> 01:38:18,200
can go take pictures, you can go
do things like that.

1685
01:38:18,200 --> 01:38:19,600
Ye may have a snack or
something.

1686
01:38:19,800 --> 01:38:21,900
For you.
But before you leave the head

1687
01:38:21,900 --> 01:38:25,600
coach, or whoever is going to
speak or their their guest

1688
01:38:25,600 --> 01:38:27,300
speaker or somebody's going to
speak.

1689
01:38:27,500 --> 01:38:31,500
So while they're doing that, all
the coaches may be meeting to

1690
01:38:31,800 --> 01:38:34,800
give their evaluation from the
one-on-ones.

1691
01:38:35,600 --> 01:38:39,300
He didn't he didn't, he didn't
do great in individual drill but

1692
01:38:39,300 --> 01:38:42,200
when you put in our competition
against somebody he did awesome.

1693
01:38:42,700 --> 01:38:45,500
He grows up and we showed good
footwork and did this and did

1694
01:38:45,500 --> 01:38:48,300
that he didn't do so well
against led to destroy it,

1695
01:38:48,300 --> 01:38:51,000
didn't move in front of it.
But when things are moving in

1696
01:38:51,000 --> 01:38:54,800
front of him, you really see
that Raw Talent breakout, you

1697
01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:56,900
know, things like that.
But you get, you get kind of

1698
01:38:56,900 --> 01:38:59,900
evaluate those different ways.
Then you get to try to let you

1699
01:38:59,900 --> 01:39:02,600
know, we were talking to
different coaches and getting

1700
01:39:02,600 --> 01:39:05,400
them are ideas.
And if that in that situation,

1701
01:39:05,700 --> 01:39:09,500
you know, they felt comfortable
enough taking information from

1702
01:39:09,500 --> 01:39:13,400
us, that we, you know, that we
knew what we were doing.

1703
01:39:13,700 --> 01:39:17,600
But I mean that just depends on
that were like you said their

1704
01:39:17,600 --> 01:39:21,200
relationship, you build.
I mean, we had five players go

1705
01:39:21,200 --> 01:39:25,000
play at NC State.
They knew what we based our

1706
01:39:25,000 --> 01:39:27,100
stuff on and what we were
focused on.

1707
01:39:27,100 --> 01:39:29,900
So I got you now could I ask
there?

1708
01:39:30,200 --> 01:39:32,000
Yeah.
Good Curtis my bad.

1709
01:39:32,400 --> 01:39:34,800
Have you ever had a coach?
Is there everything a kid at a

1710
01:39:34,800 --> 01:39:37,700
camp that stood out so much
where you had a head coach or

1711
01:39:37,800 --> 01:39:40,300
recruiting coordinator sake, we
want to talk to him.

1712
01:39:40,800 --> 01:39:48,600
That's, you know, you have this
list of all the kids that

1713
01:39:48,600 --> 01:39:52,200
registered And they're going to,
they're going to be given

1714
01:39:52,200 --> 01:39:54,900
numbers and you're given a list
of who these kids are.

1715
01:39:55,200 --> 01:39:59,200
So you can check because, you
know, you have to record their

1716
01:39:59,200 --> 01:40:04,700
their tests and stuff so it has
to be written out in record it.

1717
01:40:04,700 --> 01:40:07,300
So, you have a list of the kids
that are there their name and

1718
01:40:07,300 --> 01:40:10,300
what their shirt number or
whatever he is now, don't get

1719
01:40:10,300 --> 01:40:12,300
wrong.
Some of these kids identify when

1720
01:40:12,300 --> 01:40:14,800
they come in.
You, like I said, he's gonna

1721
01:40:14,800 --> 01:40:16,500
say, hey, this kid right here,
coming in.

1722
01:40:16,500 --> 01:40:19,100
He's got, we're looking at, he's
a guy with a recruiting.

1723
01:40:19,700 --> 01:40:23,100
You know, so he's marked on her
sheet whether we checked it off,

1724
01:40:23,100 --> 01:40:26,900
it's highlighted.
Whether his jersey is now, is

1725
01:40:26,900 --> 01:40:29,100
red with black numbers, where
all the rest of them are red

1726
01:40:29,100 --> 01:40:33,400
with white numbers or, you know,
however, they they do it to make

1727
01:40:33,400 --> 01:40:36,100
certain individual stand out.
You're going to know who they

1728
01:40:36,100 --> 01:40:40,800
are, there may be a kid, it come
in cold off, the street signed

1729
01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:45,500
up and he looks good.
And that's one of the cases with

1730
01:40:45,500 --> 01:40:49,600
like was contagious, was he come
in before his junior year?

1731
01:40:49,700 --> 01:40:52,500
Yeah and he's in the area that
hadn't been heavily recruiting

1732
01:40:52,500 --> 01:40:56,900
him because he had just moved
there all of a sudden he sets a

1733
01:40:56,900 --> 01:41:00,800
he set the camp on fire they're
like hey Mark that get him out

1734
01:41:00,800 --> 01:41:05,600
of that group, bring him over to
this group and and you to

1735
01:41:05,600 --> 01:41:09,300
evaluate him.
Where he was over there.

1736
01:41:09,500 --> 01:41:13,400
You know player a said that he
was dominating everything over

1737
01:41:13,400 --> 01:41:16,400
there and he was amazing that we
need to be looking at.

1738
01:41:16,500 --> 01:41:19,500
So we bring them over to one of
those groups to where we can

1739
01:41:19,500 --> 01:41:22,200
evaluate him and some of the
other coaches get to see him as

1740
01:41:22,200 --> 01:41:23,700
well.
Get to see him again.

1741
01:41:23,700 --> 01:41:26,700
Small receive High Caliber guys
that you already do something

1742
01:41:26,700 --> 01:41:28,200
about see how he does against
them.

1743
01:41:28,300 --> 01:41:32,100
He coaches may not some of the
coaches may not look so much at

1744
01:41:32,100 --> 01:41:37,200
the rising 9th graders at the
camp because they really, you

1745
01:41:37,200 --> 01:41:41,200
know, they can talk to him but
they can actively recruit them

1746
01:41:41,200 --> 01:41:45,400
into ninth grade, you know.
But you know you got this kid,

1747
01:41:45,400 --> 01:41:47,600
there's a rising Junior.
He's in the primer.

1748
01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:50,800
Recruiting we need to get on
board and find out where this

1749
01:41:50,800 --> 01:41:53,300
kit fits we can pull him in.
There we go.

1750
01:41:53,308 --> 01:41:55,900
Let's get him with this group.
So yeah, that definitely

1751
01:41:55,900 --> 01:42:00,300
happens.
It's not, you know, I wouldn't

1752
01:42:00,300 --> 01:42:03,500
say it's every Camp.
If you go out and you get a kid

1753
01:42:03,500 --> 01:42:06,900
that that blows up and it
appears out of nowhere, but it's

1754
01:42:06,900 --> 01:42:09,700
definitely possible.
And there's the one to come in

1755
01:42:09,700 --> 01:42:13,000
and be like this is a key of
looking at and by the end of the

1756
01:42:13,000 --> 01:42:18,600
camp they're just like nope
we're racing guys.

1757
01:42:18,600 --> 01:42:22,300
This is there a kid that coaches
don't really know from Adam

1758
01:42:22,300 --> 01:42:24,400
that's walking in.
It's going to walk away with a

1759
01:42:24,400 --> 01:42:28,400
scholarship from these cans.
I seriously, doubt it.

1760
01:42:28,700 --> 01:42:31,600
Okay.
Now times out of ten, they're

1761
01:42:31,600 --> 01:42:34,800
walking into the camp if they
leave, what a scholarship offer,

1762
01:42:36,200 --> 01:42:38,600
somebody new a lot.
About them before they got

1763
01:42:38,600 --> 01:42:41,400
there, got you.
They're one of the lifts their

1764
01:42:41,400 --> 01:42:44,000
one of the guy they're all there
on the list when they arrive.

1765
01:42:44,000 --> 01:42:46,100
If they're if you don't have a
scholarship when they're there

1766
01:42:46,100 --> 01:42:48,400
and they walk away with
absolutely got you.

1767
01:42:48,500 --> 01:42:51,700
Now, you can, you can, you can
be one of those borderline kids.

1768
01:42:51,800 --> 01:42:55,300
Yeah, we know who you are.
You know, we were like, what you

1769
01:42:55,300 --> 01:42:58,500
we seen your film?
We know that you can play.

1770
01:42:59,100 --> 01:43:01,500
We're trying to sign and come
out and blow that thing out of

1771
01:43:01,500 --> 01:43:03,500
the water and account and go,
hey.

1772
01:43:04,600 --> 01:43:08,300
Yeah, he's worth it.
Okay, I mean that can happen but

1773
01:43:08,300 --> 01:43:11,900
somebody that walks in stone,
cold off the street and just

1774
01:43:11,900 --> 01:43:16,800
appears, I mean, there's no, I
haven't seen it a camp, a Rudy

1775
01:43:16,800 --> 01:43:21,800
story where God just appears out
of nowhere, blows it up and you

1776
01:43:21,800 --> 01:43:25,100
know, gets a scholarship and
then mosa field afterwards, you

1777
01:43:25,100 --> 01:43:30,400
know, I haven't seen that.
I mean I guess it's possible but

1778
01:43:30,800 --> 01:43:33,200
so you but you by giving you
might go to a camp and get all

1779
01:43:33,200 --> 01:43:35,500
the teams radar.
You're not going to came over

1780
01:43:35,500 --> 01:43:39,400
said, you got a scholarship got.
Yeah and you can go in there and

1781
01:43:39,400 --> 01:43:41,400
open some eyes and say, hey
we're going to start watching

1782
01:43:41,400 --> 01:43:44,900
this cat.
Not impossible but improbable

1783
01:43:44,900 --> 01:43:48,300
problem as yeah, not impossible
but improbable that's a great

1784
01:43:48,300 --> 01:43:49,400
way to put it.
Here we go.

1785
01:43:49,400 --> 01:43:53,800
Curtis a man of words right
there, Wordsmith exactly.

1786
01:43:54,300 --> 01:43:58,400
All right, so before we jump off
here tonight Robbie, we're going

1787
01:43:58,400 --> 01:44:02,200
to give the floor to you because
for anybody listening out there

1788
01:44:02,500 --> 01:44:07,800
whether you are a high school
kid, whether you are a parent Me

1789
01:44:07,800 --> 01:44:10,800
and Brian are parents.
So you know, obviously we've got

1790
01:44:10,800 --> 01:44:13,000
a ways to go before any of this
stuff takes place before.

1791
01:44:13,000 --> 01:44:17,400
Maybe some of you guys who have
kids getting older, why we

1792
01:44:17,400 --> 01:44:22,800
wanted to give a little info.
So you guys kind of know how to

1793
01:44:22,800 --> 01:44:25,500
go into these things and Robbie.
I'm assuming this isn't just

1794
01:44:25,500 --> 01:44:27,400
football but this is for any
score, right?

1795
01:44:27,500 --> 01:44:30,800
Yeah.
My biggest thing and it's like I

1796
01:44:30,808 --> 01:44:34,900
said earlier, when it comes to
the kids and these coaches and

1797
01:44:34,900 --> 01:44:38,000
all the stuff I want to be
honest about things, Because

1798
01:44:38,300 --> 01:44:45,500
it's you know it's my word, it's
my evaluation of things of these

1799
01:44:45,500 --> 01:44:48,300
kids and stuff that they're
going to take you know and we

1800
01:44:48,300 --> 01:44:51,700
build relationships off of those
things we want.

1801
01:44:52,500 --> 01:44:56,300
If I could go in, I do I give
every one of my kids on my team

1802
01:44:56,300 --> 01:44:59,100
scholarship because I want them
to go to college.

1803
01:44:59,100 --> 01:45:02,800
I want them to be successful.
I want them to be you know,

1804
01:45:03,000 --> 01:45:06,100
great citizens and productive
citizens everywhere.

1805
01:45:06,300 --> 01:45:08,900
That's what I want for it.
For every kid that has ever

1806
01:45:08,900 --> 01:45:11,600
played for me for every kid that
thought about playing the didn't

1807
01:45:11,600 --> 01:45:14,600
play, you know, that as an
educator as a teacher as a

1808
01:45:14,600 --> 01:45:17,100
coach, that's what I want.
I want every kid to have that

1809
01:45:17,100 --> 01:45:20,200
chance to succeed.
They don't allow me to give

1810
01:45:20,200 --> 01:45:25,200
scholarships.
So I have to put my, I have to

1811
01:45:25,200 --> 01:45:28,800
use the relationships that I
build and put my stamp on the

1812
01:45:28,800 --> 01:45:30,500
kids that I know that I can
help.

1813
01:45:31,600 --> 01:45:39,800
And I tell them with honesty,
you know, go to these camps, get

1814
01:45:39,800 --> 01:45:46,300
the exposure, you can get, if
you have 250 dollars this year

1815
01:45:46,600 --> 01:45:51,300
to spend to go to camps, Okay.
My first piece of advice would

1816
01:45:51,300 --> 01:46:00,900
be, don't spend all 250 dollars
at Every ACC and SEC camera or

1817
01:46:01,000 --> 01:46:06,300
every Big Ten, Big 12, Camp,
whatever, don't don't blow every

1818
01:46:06,300 --> 01:46:12,300
dime you have on power 5.
You know, camps.

1819
01:46:12,800 --> 01:46:18,000
And the reason I say that is I
mean statistically you look at

1820
01:46:18,000 --> 01:46:23,500
it, there's five conferences,
there's ten, eleven twelve teams

1821
01:46:23,500 --> 01:46:26,800
in the conference, each team has
85 scholarships.

1822
01:46:27,500 --> 01:46:36,200
Okay, I'm not a mathematician
but that that chance is Slim.

1823
01:46:37,400 --> 01:46:45,800
Okay. and there's 1,400.
I know in North Carolina,

1824
01:46:45,800 --> 01:46:51,400
there's like 317 high school
football teams total, okay, each

1825
01:46:51,400 --> 01:46:56,300
one of those teams have anywhere
from 40 to 70 80 kids on the

1826
01:46:56,300 --> 01:47:01,400
team.
It's 317 in one state that plays

1827
01:47:01,400 --> 01:47:06,500
football.
And that's you know, ten

1828
01:47:06,500 --> 01:47:11,700
conferences, maybe 115, 120
teams in all the power 5 that

1829
01:47:11,700 --> 01:47:16,100
have 85 kids.
So all of you can't go there as

1830
01:47:16,100 --> 01:47:17,900
much as you want to go to
Alabama.

1831
01:47:18,200 --> 01:47:25,600
You may not be able to So think
about your education first okay?

1832
01:47:25,800 --> 01:47:28,200
The things that you want out of
like football is not going to

1833
01:47:28,200 --> 01:47:29,900
last forever.
I tell the kids all kind of

1834
01:47:30,000 --> 01:47:31,400
football is not going to last
forever.

1835
01:47:32,000 --> 01:47:36,900
I've coached for 15 years say
average of 50 kids per year. 15

1836
01:47:36,900 --> 01:47:38,000
years.
Y'all.

1837
01:47:38,000 --> 01:47:41,500
And y'all are the numbers guys.
Y'all can figure out that kind

1838
01:47:41,500 --> 01:47:44,300
of math.
I've coached well over 2,000

1839
01:47:44,300 --> 01:47:50,100
kids in my 15 years of coaching.
Two of them right now.

1840
01:47:50,100 --> 01:47:55,800
In NFL.
To every all 2,000 of them, at

1841
01:47:55,800 --> 01:47:58,200
one point in their life, their
goal was probably the play

1842
01:47:58,900 --> 01:48:02,000
professional football play in
the NFL, two of them are there.

1843
01:48:03,300 --> 01:48:07,800
So you got to find something
else to finish life with you got

1844
01:48:07,800 --> 01:48:11,500
to find something, to be that
that you you're going to go

1845
01:48:11,500 --> 01:48:14,000
professional.
But what's it going to be in the

1846
01:48:14,000 --> 01:48:16,100
likelihood of it?
Being football is not it.

1847
01:48:16,300 --> 01:48:19,900
Find what you want to do, okay?
Find the schools that are best

1848
01:48:19,900 --> 01:48:22,500
at that.
You want to play football, find

1849
01:48:22,500 --> 01:48:24,600
the schools that have the
football programs that you want

1850
01:48:24,600 --> 01:48:26,400
to play for.
Okay.

1851
01:48:26,700 --> 01:48:29,800
Pick pick one of the big school,
pick at dream school.

1852
01:48:29,900 --> 01:48:33,100
If your dream school is Alabama,
if your dream school is 4G, He

1853
01:48:33,100 --> 01:48:36,900
attacked go to the camp.
Get that exposure.

1854
01:48:37,300 --> 01:48:42,500
Go enjoy every bit of it.
Then find a say you're of

1855
01:48:42,800 --> 01:48:49,500
Virginia kid find a j mu.
Then find a, you know, a

1856
01:48:49,508 --> 01:48:51,600
division 2 School of Virginia
state.

1857
01:48:53,700 --> 01:48:58,200
Then find a couple of D3
schools, you know, things like

1858
01:48:58,200 --> 01:49:01,700
that.
Make sure you very where you

1859
01:49:01,700 --> 01:49:04,600
spend your time at those camps.
Like I said, a lot of those

1860
01:49:04,600 --> 01:49:07,400
campers you go to, you're going
to find coaches from other

1861
01:49:07,400 --> 01:49:09,700
schools there.
Anyway, especially the bigger

1862
01:49:09,700 --> 01:49:14,200
ones.
So, use those processes and help

1863
01:49:14,200 --> 01:49:16,500
yourself get your exposure that
way.

1864
01:49:16,900 --> 01:49:20,100
Don't spend every dime.
You have traveling all over the

1865
01:49:20,100 --> 01:49:24,400
world to traveling all over the
United States to these big

1866
01:49:24,400 --> 01:49:28,700
schools, that the that you have
less than 2% chance of going

1867
01:49:28,700 --> 01:49:30,900
through.
That that would be my biggest

1868
01:49:30,900 --> 01:49:36,700
thing to tell them and again,
look around at the talent that's

1869
01:49:36,700 --> 01:49:42,700
there and see where you fit in.
I mean, I had a, I've worked for

1870
01:49:42,700 --> 01:49:52,200
the last eleven twelve years for
a phenomenal coach and he played

1871
01:49:52,200 --> 01:49:54,700
college.
He had Pro workouts.

1872
01:49:55,900 --> 01:50:00,100
Okay, he played a division to
college in West Virginia, okay?

1873
01:50:00,100 --> 01:50:04,700
His dream was to go to to Penn
State He went to camp at Penn

1874
01:50:04,700 --> 01:50:09,300
State and he said I knew 30
minutes after registration by

1875
01:50:09,300 --> 01:50:11,100
looking at the guys who were
around me.

1876
01:50:11,400 --> 01:50:13,000
I was not going to print
statement.

1877
01:50:15,000 --> 01:50:19,400
He said I was 64 300 pounds and
I was one of the smallest

1878
01:50:19,400 --> 01:50:23,400
lineman there he said I knew
then I wasn't going to Penn

1879
01:50:23,400 --> 01:50:29,200
State But I was going to play
football and, and that's what he

1880
01:50:29,200 --> 01:50:31,200
did.
He worked his way around and,

1881
01:50:31,600 --> 01:50:35,400
you know, he ended up to start
with a small school.

1882
01:50:35,400 --> 01:50:39,000
I think in Pennsylvania, called
till college, and then he

1883
01:50:39,008 --> 01:50:44,200
transferred to Glenville State.
So, I mean, in even a Glenville

1884
01:50:44,200 --> 01:50:47,100
State, he ended up with workout
with Pro workouts.

1885
01:50:48,000 --> 01:50:50,400
It didn't work out.
He wasn't quite, you know, he

1886
01:50:50,400 --> 01:50:53,700
didn't quite measure up in those
situations, but that's okay.

1887
01:50:53,800 --> 01:50:58,200
I mean, he What is education?
He's coaching and teaching.

1888
01:50:58,300 --> 01:51:02,200
He's caught, he's coached at the
college level taught at the

1889
01:51:02,200 --> 01:51:04,600
college level now.
He's teaching and coaching the

1890
01:51:04,600 --> 01:51:08,700
high school and he's been very
successful so, and that's what

1891
01:51:08,700 --> 01:51:11,300
he wanted to do outside of
football, he still wanted to be

1892
01:51:11,300 --> 01:51:15,100
involved in it so that those are
the things that I would put out

1893
01:51:15,100 --> 01:51:18,700
there.
And I would tell the kids to

1894
01:51:19,100 --> 01:51:21,600
very those things to make sure
you do those.

1895
01:51:22,700 --> 01:51:27,100
Don't limit yourself.
Just to the big schools because

1896
01:51:27,100 --> 01:51:31,800
it's not going to work out as
much for the parents.

1897
01:51:32,700 --> 01:51:38,900
The biggest thing I would say is
as support the kids, don't push

1898
01:51:38,900 --> 01:51:44,300
them towards something that you
see for them that they may not

1899
01:51:44,300 --> 01:51:47,800
see for themselves.
I understand, you know, pushing

1900
01:51:47,800 --> 01:51:52,700
them to get to that but don't
push them to something that you

1901
01:51:52,700 --> 01:51:55,600
would want to see, rather than
what's realistic.

1902
01:51:56,100 --> 01:51:57,800
That's a good thing.
You see?

1903
01:51:57,800 --> 01:52:01,100
A lot of you lot of parents that
push things because it's what

1904
01:52:01,100 --> 01:52:03,700
they want and it may not be what
the kids want.

1905
01:52:04,200 --> 01:52:06,900
And that's the biggest thing.
It's going to come out to be a

1906
01:52:06,900 --> 01:52:09,900
lot easier when the kid wants to
be there and wants to do it,

1907
01:52:09,900 --> 01:52:14,500
that it is just because they
were told to But that's the

1908
01:52:14,508 --> 01:52:18,600
biggest thing in it.
I think the camps are great like

1909
01:52:18,600 --> 01:52:21,100
you said possible but not
probable.

1910
01:52:21,100 --> 01:52:26,500
When it comes into walking into
one, nine times out of ten, the

1911
01:52:26,500 --> 01:52:30,900
kids are going into camp now at
the end of these camps that

1912
01:52:31,100 --> 01:52:35,000
you're going to, you're going to
see some kids that at the end of

1913
01:52:35,000 --> 01:52:39,600
Camp, the guest speaker spoken.
Now, all of a sudden you're

1914
01:52:39,600 --> 01:52:42,600
going to see these coaches,
start talking to individual

1915
01:52:42,600 --> 01:52:45,000
kids.
And then there, I've seen them

1916
01:52:45,300 --> 01:52:48,500
at the end of those camps.
Like you said, after June 1st at

1917
01:52:48,500 --> 01:52:51,700
recruiting thing is up and they
can start recruiting again.

1918
01:52:52,000 --> 01:52:53,600
I've seen kids come to these
camps.

1919
01:52:54,000 --> 01:52:57,200
And at the end of that count,
you know, they're walking away

1920
01:52:57,200 --> 01:53:00,200
with the head coach and
recruiting coordinator, and then

1921
01:53:00,200 --> 01:53:04,800
they reappear wear with a
scholarship offer, okay?

1922
01:53:05,200 --> 01:53:31,300
That wasn't a kid that walked in
from my experience and that's

1923
01:53:31,300 --> 01:53:35,000
so-and-so from, you know,
Blacksburg High School.

1924
01:53:35,000 --> 01:53:43,000
He's a four-star defensive.
Recruit a 64 265 pounds.

1925
01:53:43,200 --> 01:53:46,000
Runs a 464 they know everything
about him already.

1926
01:53:47,100 --> 01:53:50,900
That's usually the kid that's
that's wandering off and sitting

1927
01:53:50,900 --> 01:53:53,800
in an office somewhere to talk
to the head coach a little bit

1928
01:53:53,800 --> 01:53:56,300
later.
That's meet a couple camps when

1929
01:53:56,300 --> 01:54:01,000
I was going to them when I was a
junior and I was that regular

1930
01:54:01,000 --> 01:54:03,700
guy, then Marcus Vick was the
guy that was getting pulled to

1931
01:54:03,700 --> 01:54:06,000
the side and talking to the
coaches?

1932
01:54:06,000 --> 01:54:08,900
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, it possible, not

1933
01:54:08,900 --> 01:54:11,500
probable, there we go.
Told you, they never, they all

1934
01:54:11,500 --> 01:54:13,700
want to come to the table as a
probable.

1935
01:54:14,800 --> 01:54:18,000
Every once in a while, there's a
possible, the rest of them, if

1936
01:54:18,000 --> 01:54:20,300
they're talking to head coach
afterwards, it's probably to

1937
01:54:20,300 --> 01:54:21,700
take the picture, get an
autograph.

1938
01:54:23,700 --> 01:54:26,700
But there we needs, it's just
realistic.

1939
01:54:26,800 --> 01:54:28,300
I guess.
I have more tell the truth, and

1940
01:54:28,300 --> 01:54:32,900
that's what the truth is.
But I mean that's that's the big

1941
01:54:32,900 --> 01:54:36,000
thing about the camps.
It's an opportunity an

1942
01:54:36,000 --> 01:54:38,300
opportunity to show what you
what you can do.

1943
01:54:39,000 --> 01:54:44,200
But Yeah, have realistic
expectations when it comes down

1944
01:54:44,200 --> 01:54:45,700
to it.
There we go.

1945
01:54:50,000 --> 01:54:52,900
Robbie, we appreciate you
joining us tonight, man.

1946
01:54:53,500 --> 01:54:57,600
It's been way too long.
A since we've seen you, thanks

1947
01:54:57,600 --> 01:54:59,900
through covid.
Unfortunately, because normally

1948
01:54:59,900 --> 01:55:04,100
Robbie would swing by Richmond
and we somehow catch, Prayin you

1949
01:55:04,108 --> 01:55:05,500
catch me.
We all catch up.

1950
01:55:05,500 --> 01:55:09,800
Go to her least have some wings,
hopefully in the next few

1951
01:55:09,800 --> 01:55:11,400
months.
We do this in person.

1952
01:55:11,400 --> 01:55:12,800
Maybe we get to watch a game
together.

1953
01:55:13,200 --> 01:55:14,600
Don't know if we want to do
that.

1954
01:55:14,600 --> 01:55:17,000
That might be dangerous.
Have some wine.

1955
01:55:17,000 --> 01:55:19,200
Watch a little football, hell
yeah.

1956
01:55:20,200 --> 01:55:23,400
I told you the other day, it's
time to get together, you know,

1957
01:55:23,900 --> 01:55:27,500
I got kids, I've had, I've had
for years, I've had kids of

1958
01:55:27,508 --> 01:55:29,800
different places playing ball
and things like that.

1959
01:55:30,100 --> 01:55:32,800
I've been running from place to
place to watch games and things

1960
01:55:32,800 --> 01:55:36,600
like that.
And I spent a lot of time at at

1961
01:55:36,600 --> 01:55:38,500
NC State.
I spent some time at Clemson.

1962
01:55:41,400 --> 01:55:45,300
So now I think this year there's
going to be a lot less

1963
01:55:45,300 --> 01:55:47,800
traveling.
I can I can get back to my roots

1964
01:55:47,800 --> 01:55:49,700
and watch some more Virginia
Tech football.

1965
01:55:50,200 --> 01:55:53,200
Yes sir.
But like I said, I got another

1966
01:55:53,200 --> 01:55:57,800
kid to just committed to NC
State this past weekend so I can

1967
01:55:57,800 --> 01:56:02,100
head back to Raleigh and I know
I know some of the Virginia Tech

1968
01:56:02,100 --> 01:56:06,900
fans don't want to hear it but I
got I got some connections and

1969
01:56:08,200 --> 01:56:11,000
in Raleigh that I can get the
games if I need to call Coach y,

1970
01:56:11,200 --> 01:56:18,700
Of you know because once again I
have a pretty decent

1971
01:56:18,700 --> 01:56:21,800
relationship there so he's a
good dude.

1972
01:56:23,000 --> 01:56:27,000
I know he did an amazing job in
Blacksburg and he did the glad

1973
01:56:27,000 --> 01:56:32,100
to have him in Raleigh as well.
So we'll we'll spend some time

1974
01:56:32,100 --> 01:56:35,200
in Raleigh again.
We'll see how everything goes.

1975
01:56:35,700 --> 01:56:37,900
There we go.
Definitely get together, watch a

1976
01:56:37,907 --> 01:56:39,700
little wash, a little hokey
football.

1977
01:56:39,700 --> 01:56:42,200
Y'all have to catch me up on how
things are going.

1978
01:56:42,200 --> 01:56:45,900
I falling a little behind.
Well, you've been a busy man

1979
01:56:45,900 --> 01:56:47,500
with all this stuff going on,
man.

1980
01:56:47,500 --> 01:56:51,200
So definitely on that and not,
that is going to wrap up this

1981
01:56:51,200 --> 01:56:54,200
episode of the boundary.
Corner podcast along with our

1982
01:56:54,200 --> 01:56:56,300
guest Robbie comfort and I'm
Curtis Wilson.

1983
01:56:56,800 --> 01:56:59,600
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1984
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1985
01:57:01,700 --> 01:57:04,000
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1986
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1987
01:57:07,100 --> 01:57:09,200
or your favorite five guests or
Spotify.

1988
01:57:09,200 --> 01:57:12,500
Amazon, Apple Brian made.
Sure they are everywhere.

1989
01:57:12,900 --> 01:57:15,600
If you're looking to join the
Hokie club and help, help

1990
01:57:15,600 --> 01:57:17,400
achieve the retracts.
Let's go.

1991
01:57:18,400 --> 01:57:22,600
Please put visit boundary
corner, be t.com /give.

1992
01:57:22,800 --> 01:57:26,600
To get started, as always we let
our buddy Rob, he's former

1993
01:57:26,600 --> 01:57:29,200
roommate.
Jason Long play us out, catch

1994
01:57:29,200 --> 01:57:32,800
him on Spotify and apple music.
We thank you for listening and

1995
01:57:32,800 --> 01:57:36,500
as always let's go.
Okay.

Robert Compton

Coach and Football Camp Evaluator

Coach Robert Compton has been a high school football coach in the states of North Carolina and Virginia for 15 years. He coached current NFL talents such as Kentavius Street and Cornell Powell while at J.H. Rose High School in Greenville, NC. He is currently serving as defensive coordinator at North Wilkesboro High School in North Carolina. Coach Compton has also served as an evaluator at collegiate football camps throughout the mid-Atlantic.

Going Camping with Robert Compton