This week we welcome back Pick Six Previews owner and creator Brett Ciancia to help us preview the Hokies 2023 roster and how they stack up with some of their opponents on this season's schedule. We also talk the demise of the Pac-12, what the ACCs next move will be, and discuss some of the early reports from the first week of Hokies Fall Camp.

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He is the owner and creator of
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Most accurate preview magazine
out there He is Brett Ciancia.

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Brett, how are you doing
tonight?

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Hey guys, I'm doing great.
Thanks for having me on.

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It's it's an honor to be back on
with you guys.

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Probably our fourth straight
season, but this is a special

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season here, the end of an era
2023.

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When you look across the
conference landscape and the

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playoff bracket changing, it's
it's a little bit of nostalgia

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this time around.
So excited to break it down with

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you guys.
And and yeah, so to get into it.

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Yeah, we've got, we've got the
PAC 12 kind of dismantling

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there.
We've got the ACC more or less

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on on life support here.
So it's definitely an

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interesting time to talk a
little preview, talk a little

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college football and kind of see
what what the Hokie season look

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like and kind of what the ACC
schedule is kind of stacking up

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for the Hokies this year.
So let's go ahead and jump right

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into it, Brett, you know.
We we looked at the magazine.

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We we we love what you wrote
there.

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Very, very insightful
information about the Hokies.

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But let's start with with some
of the weapons that the Hokies

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added on the offense pretty much
at every skill position.

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But your success for this team
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end with the quarterback.
That room now has Kyron Jones

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drones, along with returning
starter Grant Wells.

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Regardless of who wins this job,
how much additional production

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must come out of that
quarterback position this year

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for you to feel that the Hokies
could become more of a middle of

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the pack offense versus kind of
where you have them right now,

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which is kind of that bottom two
or three?

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Yeah, well, that's certainly an
area of concern last year and

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definitely need some
improvement.

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You look back statistically
second worst in the conference

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in a lot of the key metrics.
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per attempt.
So and the touchdown to pick

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ratio, I think he was a solid
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It's not going to get it done in
the ACC.

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So yeah, that's a big area
that's needed to improve and it

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was a limitation along with
pretty much pick your spot last

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year on the offense.
Unfortunately, it was one of the

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worst Virginia Tech offenses
I've ever graded, and I think

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they ended up third worst in
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So.
That's certainly the most

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important position but they have
a lot to clean up across the

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across the board.
Absolutely.

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And then last year you know you
had Brad Glenn and Joe Rudolph,

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two guys who have been offensive
coordinators in the past and you

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know you mentioned in the
magazine they moved on.

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Glenn had the Cincinnati as an
offensive coordinator, Rudolph

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moving up to Notre Dame.
But now there's going to be more

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of a focus on Bowens, Moorhead
RPO spread type system and of

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the metrics we you review.
We feel that if OL offensive

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line run push improves that this
offense is going to have a lot

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more success for you.
As you look through your metric,

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which one sticks out to say if
the Hokies are better, that

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one's going to be better?
Yeah, well, I like your answer

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actually.
I think it's got to start with

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the offensive line.
When you look at them last year,

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one of the worst offensive lines
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You know, I have my, like you
mentioned, offensive line, run,

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push and my past protection
Sacre.

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They were one of only three in
Power 5, the place in the

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bottom, you know, outside a
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So along with Iowa and Boston
College with some of the worst

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offensive line play in the
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So got it proved there that
that's step number one.

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But for this big RPO offense,
another one I'll throw in there

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will be the explosive place.
I think that's that's huge in a

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wide open spread attack.
You know Bowen, you talked about

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Jim Moorehead.
They come from that old.

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Those Penn State teams with
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off.
Huge, huge explosive passes they

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had, say Quan Barkley, you know,
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So along with offensive line
improvement, I want to see some

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explosiveness return cuz it was
really stuck in the mud last

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year.
Definitely, definitely pivoted

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to our next point.
When you talk in your in your

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outlook, you talk about there
weren't enough or I don't want

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to quote you if I'm wrong.
You said there weren't enough

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overnight fixes in the offense
to imagine a jurastic.

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Change or drastic?
Better offense?

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A better unit?
The Hokies took 66 Portal

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offensive transfers.
Now, with that being said, was

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that, you know, not enough
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Maybe not enough quality
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What kind of brought you to that
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Yeah.
So I guess the quantity might be

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there with those six guys?
Guys, but when you look at the

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ratings that they didn't rate
anywhere near the top 15 of the

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transfer classes and I think
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uncertainty.
So these guys might turn out to

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be incredible.
I know that Tooton had a ton of

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production at the NC at the what
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So he could be a star.
We'll see.

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And then with with drones, I
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Baylor, I think it was a high
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threat.
I mean, he led a state title in

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Texas.
That's a pretty good resume

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builder.
So he's got a high ceiling too.

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It's just a little uncertain for
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comparative too.
I think that these are all good

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players, but when you look at
some of the other transfer

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additions across the conference,
they are former starters, even

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former all conference guys at
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So maybe it's just, I should
have said, maybe more proven in

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other places because these guys
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Now I would, I would say, I
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that.
Now you did throw us a little

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bit of love.
We did pick up Ally Jennings

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from Old Dominion.
And he did make your all

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transfer team, so we're pretty
excited about that.

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I was glad to see you throw us a
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So hoping that can translate on
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Yeah, well, it's been such a
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It was last year too, at the
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I felt that, you know, for my
preview book, I wanted to add an

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all transfer team, a new
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Everyone's familiar with the all
ACC or all SEC teams, but I put

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in an all transfer team so you
can start the map where all

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these players are going.
Yeah, definitely.

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Yeah, Virginia Tech represented
there on the offense.

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Yeah, so Brett, looking looking
big picture now, one thing I

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like about your previews is that
you include A5 and 10 year trend

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and recruiting also gain grades
to kind of give a big a long

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term look at the health of the
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I think this is a bit of a sour
spot for Virginia Tech fans

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because of the regression that
the program has seen over the

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past few years.
But do you think that Virginia

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Tech, is there a good reason to
believe that this program can

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get back to being a consistent
top 25 team, even if it kind of

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takes a few years to kind of get
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Well, yeah, I think that it's
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I think that Virginia Tech has a
program, definitely has a top 25

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ceiling.
I mean they could definitely be

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in there.
I don't know if you meant

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recruiting or overall, but it
really in both because first

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with recruiting, the first thing
I ever look at is geography.

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I think that's key in
recruiting.

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It always will be.
And yeah, they're based in the

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in that DMV area that that's
southeast of the country where

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there's more and more high
school talent popping up and

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they have a coach now with Brent
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I had a chance to interview him
last spring and he said his

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number one concern was returning
the importance of in state

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recruiting.
It had been kind of looked away

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in the in the prior regime.
So all that to say, I think they

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definitely can be consistent top
25 recruiters going forward.

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And with the right staff and the
right schemes, a top 25

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recruiting class should
translate to a top 25 caliber

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football team.
So and you know I'm a little bit

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on the younger side.
So growing up all I knew was the

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Frank Beamer era and and solid
defenses, great secondaries, you

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know DBU and they got some
consideration there.

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So for to me, Virginia Tech is a
power program and certainly has

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that ceiling.
It's just a matter of getting

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back, you know.
It feels weird placing them so

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low in the in the conference
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I think it's a matter of time
until they're back in that a CC

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top five competing.
You know, we're right there with

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you, man.
We feel weird too.

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We want to get up out of that.
But yeah, so the loss of

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longtime starter, that's
Hollyfield, I feel.

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We feel like he was here for
about 20 years for how long he

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was at Virginia Tech.
But he's moved on now and we're

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seeing more athletic linebackers
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Pride and and Marv have started
to get players that are more of

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their type of players in.
Would it surprise you to see a

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big jump in that defense and in
that room, production in that

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room with them getting more
athletic players and longer

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players?
No, I wouldn't be surprised at

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all.
I mean, I'm based out of

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Pennsylvania, so I was a little
familiar with what he did at

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Penn State.
It was some of the best defenses

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year in and year out.
And and really one of the key

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points of it was how aggressive
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aggressive I'd call it.
And it's funny when you look at

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my stat chart there for defense.
One of the only bright spots

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last year it's hot 40 national
was the negative play rate which

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is directly tied to that
aggressive nature that blitz

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happy making plays behind the
line of scrimmage causing havoc.

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So I think that's all part of
prize DNA.

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And now with a second year coach
bonus, yeah, that wouldn't

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surprise me.
So I'm not exactly sure on which

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personnel is going to step up,
what, what starter and our new,

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you know, new emerging player
it'll be.

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I know it will be someone and
there's enough firepower there

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to to find a starting 11 and
I'll find a starting linebacker

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trio.
So I think you're in good shape

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defensively.
Yeah, yeah, Definitely excited

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to see what what Lawson can do
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Maybe see Keller step into that
mic position with Dax out there.

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So it's going to be an exciting
year to look at that.

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Let's move up a level here and
talk about the defensive line.

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You talked a lot in the in the
book about the the the D line,

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departures at the defensive
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production last year.
Tech ranked actually 94th

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nationally and Sacrate in 2022,
but one of the bigger offseason

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Portal editions was Antoine
Powell, Rowland Junior coming

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over from Florida.
We know veterans like Cole

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Nelson, CJ McCray, they're going
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It looks like Powell Rollins
kind of the guy to to take up a

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lot of the steps that that
Taiwan Garbet had last year.

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Do you think he can have a
similar impact for the Hokies in

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a fulltime role, considering
that he showed a big flash in a

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more specialized role at
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Yeah, absolutely.
And you got to remember who he

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was competing against on the
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It's, it's blue chippers
everywhere, top 100, top 50 guys

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everywhere.
So despite not being a full time

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starter there, I think he's
still got valuable experience,

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no knock on him.
So yeah, that's potential.

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I like what they have at
defensive tackle with some

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familiar names coming back.
So yeah, there's there's

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definitely places to build
around and and I agree with you

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on that.
That's awesome to hear.

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Now I'm gonna, I'm gonna have a
little little come Jesus moment.

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So you mentioned a big win would
be bowl eligibility this year.

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We'd like it obviously.
But I think as we look back at

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2022 with one of the worst
offenses not on just G5 or P5 in

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the whole country in the solid
but not a great defense.

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The Hokies blundered 3 games
they blundered ODU.

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They blundered NC State, they
blundered Georgia Tech, and they

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didn't get to play UVA, who they
probably would have been a

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significant favorite over.
So my question, you know, due to

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the tragedy that happened to
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Based on this schedule, is this
more of a big win, or is this

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more of an expected progression
where the close games flipped

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the other way this year well?
I'll stick to what I was saying

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just because coming off of last
year, I mean it was a pretty

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brutal season win loss record
wise.

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I think that, yeah, the Old
Dominion game, you really

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fumbled that one away.
Literally.

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I saw that snap fly over the
holders head.

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That's a 10 point swing man.
That's a 10 point swing.

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And you know you mentioned the
other two close ones, but there

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were a lot of black eyes too.
I mean getting beat down by West

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Virginia, blown out several
weeks really.

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The offensive limitations was
really.

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Weighed down their grades last
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So I think to to get the five in
this case six wins for bowl

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eligibility.
That shows that you fix the

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offense.
That shows that the defense made

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a progression from average to
above average.

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So I think all those things are
wins and you also have to factor

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in you're playing a couple power
fives in the non conference this

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year with Purdue and Rutgers
towards the bottom of the power

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five, yes, but still, I mean
those are power 5 opponents.

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Marshall had a great defense
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So yeah, I think the getting the
a bowl season in year 2 is a

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win.
I think you got to start to

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stack those start to get
momentum because you know it's

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it's rare to go from three wins
to ten wins.

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You got to get that intermediate
year, that building block year.

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This is a good spot to try and
get the six or seven plus wins.

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Definitely, definitely.
When you talk about those wins

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and trying to get there, one
named a week as hokey fans don't

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want to see is FSU, which is one
of our one of our opponents this

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year.
You actually had FSU favored to

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win the ACC and head to the
College Football Playoffs this

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year.
So they're returning a lot of

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production on both sides of the
ball, trending positive and a

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lot of matrix.
That said, is there one

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particular matrix that gives you
like a little bit of pause that,

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you know, they may can't close
it out or they may kind of

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fumble that away?
Well, I feel pretty strong with

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the Florida State pick.
You know, I think it's a little

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bit of a surprise to see them in
the playoff bracket.

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I, you know, I got a lot of
attention for that.

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It wasn't by design.
I just truly believe it.

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It start with last year, 2022.
That was really their

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breakthrough year.
Statistically, you look at all

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my numbers and metrics, they
were top ten, top 20 and

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everything.
Offense, defense, pick your

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number.
That was good in itself.

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But then they bring back the
number one most returning

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production in America, the
entire roster coming back.

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Some key NFL decisions that
decided to come back to Florida

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State on their defensive line.
Jordan Travis still threat

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quarterback.
And then the last piece is that

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not only that those two factors,
but they really excel again in

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the transfer portal.
Another top five transfer class

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and Norvell, he doesn't just
sign them, he really develops

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the transfers into all
conference guys.

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So while Clemson ignored the
portal.

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Florida State's embraced it and
really bolstered the roster up.

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So yeah, I feel pretty good
about this Florida State team.

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Definitely to hit their nine and
a half win total.

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That's that's why one of the
best bets of the year winning

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the conference will still be
tough against Clemson.

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But yeah, I think it's a pretty
strong team and if they survive

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the ACC 12 and one, that means a
playoff bid.

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So in keeping with the ACC
opponents at tackle face this

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year you've got the Pitt
Panthers, who have been a thorn

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in the side of Virginia Tech for
the past few years.

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They're interesting team to
watch, I think.

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Obviously they're very good
developmental program under

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Narduzzi, his bread and Butters
defense, but they do lose a few

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key defensive players this
season as well as a running

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back, a band of Canada.
Do you think that their success

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will depend on on Phil
Jerkovich's health and do you

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see?
Their defense being able to kind

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of maintain where they've been
the past few years coming into

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our 2023.
Yeah, yeah.

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Well, with the defense, it's
funny.

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I was talking to Coach Darduzi
and.

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He was very adamant that he, he
invented his scheme and everyone

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else is copying him, you know,
so you know he's the originator

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and everyone else that just
drives a a worse version of his

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car and he's likes to say, but
yeah, I think and you know what,

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there's some truth to that.
I mean look at how they reload

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every year.
They they place in the top five

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in sacks every year, one of the
most disruptive in the backfield

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every year.
So all jokes aside, he does have

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quite a track record defensively
now.

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It is more transition than
usual.

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More stars are gone, but when
you have a coach that's

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successful on one side of the
ball, I I tend to side with

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them.
So I think that they're going to

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be fine defensively.
I like the the transfer edition

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of Dracovic.
He was really strong in 2020 and

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2021 before his injury and then
last year had one of the worst

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offensive lines in the country
in front of him and got knocked

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out of the year again.
So I think not only is he with a

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better offensive line here at
Pitt, he's back with.

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Frank Signetti, who was the
coordinator up at BC when he had

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his best season.
So all that to say, I have them

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fourth in the ACC.
Outside the top 25, though,

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there's still a lot of questions
there.

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Definitely a winnable game from
Virginia Tech, but I do have

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them all the way up there at
number four.

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I like hearing that.
I like hearing that we might.

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You have confidence eventually
us taking care of Pitt this

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year.
All right, I'm going to flip to

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another ACC school.
Let's talk about Louisville.

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It seems like they are getting a
huge bump from the hire of Jeff

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Brom by everybody, everybody in
the country.

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And that said, there is a lot of
question marks for this team.

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For Louisville though, despite
the optimism with him coming

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back in the success he had at
Purdue, you got them six.

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We feel they probably could be
as high as five due to their

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easy schedule or if things just
don't click, maybe as low as 11.

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What metric really gave you
pause to say they can finish in

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the upper half of the ACC?
Well, you touched on its

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schedule, was a key driver here
for Louisville.

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But schedule aside, I think
coach Brahms, A proven offensive

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guy.
He's got a fun offense, It's a

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widespread passing offense, and
he brought in two former

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quarterbacks.
So these guys are really

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familiar with him.
One's a former starter with Jack

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Plummer and then Indiana
quarterback, quarterback of the

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year or whatever at the high
school level, Brady Allen.

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So he's got his quarterbacks
coming in.

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Top 15 transfer Hall too, and
then also some good talent on

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offense to build around.
So now here's the the testament

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spin is that, yeah, it's a
coaching transition season.

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There's a big talent drain on
defense that they have to deal

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with.
But yeah, I think the middle of

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the pack of the ACC, there's a
lot of thin margin there.

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You could argue A-Team like you
said from 5th all the way to

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10th.
It's a tight pack.

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But their schedule was the
difference here.

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They have definitely the easiest
in the ACC.

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They avoid the top three and I'm
calling that Florida State,

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Clemson and UNC.
So they avoid all three of them

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and they play all seven of my
bottom 7.

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So schedule wise, huge bonus.
And you know, it's a whole new

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world now without the Atlantic
and Coastal Divisions.

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The schedules are all scattered
around, so you gotta find these

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gems like this where they could
even be an average team and go

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eat and four.
Yeah, I mean, that's definitely

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what we were looking at too.
Like we saw the schedule like

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okay that that makes sense why
they're getting a big bump here,

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especially with Brahm coming in.
So definitely could see, like I

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said, like I said, we look at
it, we could see them five, we

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could see them five.
We could also see them 11, just

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depending on how how the defense
stacks up, whether they can stay

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healthy.
But that schedule is definitely

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going to give them an easy path
to 8, like you said.

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Let's pivot over to UVA though.
You know, looking at that, that

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team defense was the kind of the
lone bright spot for that unit

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in 2022.
Yeah, up front they got 4

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starters back, but they lost
both starting corners and an all

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ACC linebacker.
Are you expecting a regression

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year for the defense?
And if that's the case, maybe

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even an uglier overall year two
than their than their first year

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with Tony Elliott at the helm.
Yeah, well last year they were

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all defense.
So when you look at their that

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profile when you watch them,
they couldn't get anything done

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offensively.
But it was a solid top 20

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defense.
And the problem here with 2023

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is it's twofold #1, I don't see
a fix on offense.

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I think that's going to struggle
again.

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But #2, I don't think that the
defense has proven like it was

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last year.
You lost their top three

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defenders and worse, it wasn't
50 year guys that have exhausted

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their eligibility and heading to
the pros.

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It was they transferred all the
teams.

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It's.
It's hard to see that happen.

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So you had three time all ACC.
Nick Jackson, quarterback of the

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defense there at backer he's
gone to Iowa he's going to be

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the starter over there and then
and then central Cyprus #1

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cornerback transfer in the
entire country heads over to

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Florida State.
So their best guys got coached

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and I just don't see any any
huge fixes.

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So I have them slated for dead
last in the ACC and what is that

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66 out of 69?
That's 4th the worst in the

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Power Five.
So.

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Looks for it like it looks like
a tough year for UVA.

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Yeah, and it does seem that way
even, you know, as we follow it,

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even on the recruiting trail,
there's not been many wins for

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UVA this year.
All right, we got one more for

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you.
I'll let you out of here.

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And that is one of the out of
conference opponents you

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mentioned.
And the reason we're mentioning

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it is because all four of us
will be heading to Blacksburg

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for that game and it's Purdue.
And let's talk about them.

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Ryan Walters, great job as the
Illinois defensive coordinator

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last year.
This is his first full time head

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coaching gig.
And he walks into what is a

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slightly below average defense
in the portal week.

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Absolute havoc on their line for
transfers out.

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The rush defense was a little
bit above last year, little bit

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above average and graded holding
explosive plays down.

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With all these losses, are you
expecting that to be the metric

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that just takes the hit in 2023?
Yeah, I think that they're in

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for a transition season and not
in the good way for Purdue.

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You know, if you if you put it,
you know, if you did a blind

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resume on Purdue, you would
never have predicted that, be a

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conference champion or division
champion.

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They won the West last year.
I don't know how it does.

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It doesn't stack up.
What is that?

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They were graded 44th and Power
5 despite winning the West.

448
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,440
So I have them all the way down
in 6th place out of seven in the

449
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,380
Big 10 W.
Now I do think the Ryan Walters,

450
00:23:10,380 --> 00:23:12,780
he's a great defensive mine.
I had a chance to talk with him

451
00:23:12,780 --> 00:23:15,740
too and he's coming in really
confident into the Big 10.

452
00:23:15,740 --> 00:23:17,460
He was saying how he knows the
Big 10.

453
00:23:17,460 --> 00:23:20,220
It doesn't matter that he's a
new time head coach now.

454
00:23:20,220 --> 00:23:21,620
It doesn't matter for your
matchup.

455
00:23:21,620 --> 00:23:23,300
You're not a conference
opponent, never played him.

456
00:23:23,300 --> 00:23:26,540
So yeah, I think it's gonna be a
tough transition season for

457
00:23:26,540 --> 00:23:29,260
Purdue and definitely winnable
game there that you guys will

458
00:23:29,260 --> 00:23:30,660
get the witness and lean
stadium.

459
00:23:31,340 --> 00:23:32,420
Yeah, we're looking forward to
that.

460
00:23:32,420 --> 00:23:35,460
But that's gonna be a big game.
I feel like, you know first kind

461
00:23:35,460 --> 00:23:39,550
of big power 5 out of conference
that we've had in a little bit

462
00:23:39,550 --> 00:23:41,590
at home.
It's going to be interesting

463
00:23:41,590 --> 00:23:44,670
because you know this schedule
for the Hokies this year isn't

464
00:23:45,070 --> 00:23:47,750
isn't a lot of marquee matchup.
So that Purdue game is kind of

465
00:23:47,750 --> 00:23:51,150
circled for a lot of us, so
should be should be a lot of

466
00:23:51,150 --> 00:23:53,030
fun.
But let's talk about the

467
00:23:53,030 --> 00:23:54,470
offensive guy that they brought
in.

468
00:23:54,470 --> 00:23:57,390
We got Graham Harrell there
brought in to to run his Air

469
00:23:57,390 --> 00:24:00,910
raid offense and they went out
and got quarterback Hudson Card

470
00:24:00,910 --> 00:24:03,950
from Texas.
Is there an offensive metric

471
00:24:03,950 --> 00:24:09,680
that you're expecting to improve
the most within that system

472
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,920
compared to what they had last
year under Brom?

473
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,560
Yeah so it is a little bit
similar of an offense.

474
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:21,120
It's both can be passed heavy
and you know Graham how running

475
00:24:21,120 --> 00:24:23,920
his his version of the Air Raid.
Slightly different than coach

476
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,840
Brahms but in the same family of
offense.

477
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,040
So probably a similar step
profile.

478
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,200
I think the one that might
improve might be quarterback

479
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:32,920
rating.
I think that maybe per on a per

480
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:34,920
play basis, maybe they'll get
more efficient, but.

481
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,720
Hudson Card, Yeah, he was a
former top 50 recruit.

482
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,560
Started some games at Texas, had
to go against 25 stars down

483
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,840
there.
So it's not exactly the usual

484
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,120
backup quarterback.
I think it's a solid starter,

485
00:24:48,360 --> 00:24:50,720
probably in the upper half of
Big 10 quarterbacks.

486
00:24:51,180 --> 00:24:53,980
So yeah, you're going to get a
solid team, but again, it's only

487
00:24:53,980 --> 00:24:56,700
going to be in his second start.
It's his first Rd. start in the

488
00:24:57,460 --> 00:25:00,620
at Purdue.
So I think it's again a winnable

489
00:25:00,620 --> 00:25:02,460
game for you guys.
Absolutely.

490
00:25:02,460 --> 00:25:05,020
And you know, he did have some
starting time down at Texas, but

491
00:25:05,020 --> 00:25:07,100
again, holding new system,
holding new place, whole new

492
00:25:07,100 --> 00:25:09,300
environment.
Brett, we know you were a busy

493
00:25:09,300 --> 00:25:11,020
man.
You jumped from the Spurs Up

494
00:25:11,020 --> 00:25:13,620
podcast straight over to the
Boundary Corner podcast.

495
00:25:13,980 --> 00:25:15,500
We really appreciate you taking
your time.

496
00:25:15,500 --> 00:25:18,100
We know you're now headed over
to the Big Red Podcast with

497
00:25:18,100 --> 00:25:21,700
Nebraska, so you continue to
make your rounds around college

498
00:25:21,700 --> 00:25:24,740
football, keep doing what we do,
what you do because we love the

499
00:25:24,740 --> 00:25:27,900
magazine.
It's a great read every year to

500
00:25:28,220 --> 00:25:31,380
not only familiarize ourselves
the way you feel the ACC's going

501
00:25:31,380 --> 00:25:33,780
and our Hokies, but also the
rest of the country.

502
00:25:35,010 --> 00:25:36,370
Yeah, well thanks a ton for the
praise.

503
00:25:36,370 --> 00:25:39,450
Thanks for having me on and huge
respect for the Hokie fans out

504
00:25:39,450 --> 00:25:40,610
there.
One of the most passionate in

505
00:25:40,610 --> 00:25:42,890
the in the country, definitely
in the ACC.

506
00:25:42,890 --> 00:25:46,370
I've seen it first hand.
I was down 2009 in Lane Stadium

507
00:25:46,370 --> 00:25:48,010
for the Nebraska Virginia Tech
game.

508
00:25:48,010 --> 00:25:51,730
A random match up there sure
brings back some memories for

509
00:25:51,730 --> 00:25:53,570
you guys.
Danny Cole running down the

510
00:25:53,570 --> 00:25:56,610
sideline.
But yeah, but no.

511
00:25:56,610 --> 00:25:59,170
But yeah, I want to get back
down to Lane Stadium eventually

512
00:25:59,170 --> 00:26:01,650
and you know get to see that
that experience again.

513
00:26:01,650 --> 00:26:02,970
One of the best in the country,
so.

514
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,920
Big respect to the fan base and
to you guys for putting on a

515
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,920
great product here covering the
Hokies and best of luck this

516
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,000
season.
Appreciate it.

517
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:12,520
Appreciate it, Brett.
Thanks, man.

518
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,560
All righty Fellows.
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528
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:49,120
Alrighty and we are back.
Before we jump into the other

529
00:26:49,120 --> 00:26:52,600
topics tonight, y'all we rolled
through that.

530
00:26:53,330 --> 00:26:54,490
We rolled through that.
I don't know.

531
00:26:54,490 --> 00:26:57,530
We got every question in in 30
minutes and less.

532
00:26:57,530 --> 00:26:59,370
So we did it.
We did it.

533
00:26:59,370 --> 00:27:02,690
We did that quick.
But let's think about some of

534
00:27:02,690 --> 00:27:06,890
the stuff he said.
The Hokies, the opponents,

535
00:27:06,930 --> 00:27:11,410
anything, anything that caught
y'all, any of y'all start,

536
00:27:11,410 --> 00:27:12,850
anything that caught y'all right
off.

537
00:27:12,850 --> 00:27:15,530
And if you're out there
listening and you got something

538
00:27:15,530 --> 00:27:17,250
he said that you don't agree
with or you agree with,

539
00:27:17,250 --> 00:27:18,610
completely put it in the
comments.

540
00:27:18,610 --> 00:27:21,170
We'll talk about that too.
Who wants to fire first?

541
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,200
All right, does did Narduzzi
invent the attacking 4/3?

542
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,560
He said he did.
Comment, he said he did.

543
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,280
There's a lot of that's what he
is.

544
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,240
He keeps already loading on that
defense.

545
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,400
He he's a hell of a
developmental coach.

546
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:42,960
I'll give him that.
I'm inventing the the attacking

547
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,680
4 three, though I will not pass
that on to him.

548
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:48,800
No, I just want to beat him.
That's what I want.

549
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,880
I just want to win him, man.
He can, we put y'all, can admit

550
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,840
y'all, can admit everybody on
that schedule.

551
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,720
Beating him is fun because that
man gets so pissed off.

552
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,720
I remember in lane last time me
and Brian were at 2019, we were

553
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,600
on, we were we were in stands
across from it and you can just

554
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,840
see him like upset the whole
game because they couldn't move

555
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,160
the ball in the rain.
We scored early.

556
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,600
He knew he had no chance and he
just was cursing the rest the

557
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,370
whole time.
Like he is the funnest guy to

558
00:28:16,370 --> 00:28:18,410
watch.
Because as an opposing fan, it's

559
00:28:18,410 --> 00:28:20,410
like when you beat them.
It's it.

560
00:28:20,450 --> 00:28:22,610
It's like no one's fault but the
referees.

561
00:28:24,570 --> 00:28:26,890
I remember he, he was bragging
head again.

562
00:28:26,890 --> 00:28:30,170
He's like you know we played the
white out at Penn State and we

563
00:28:30,170 --> 00:28:32,130
didn't jump off sides.
We're not going to jump off

564
00:28:32,130 --> 00:28:39,570
sides in the in lane and what
first series I think it was 3

565
00:28:39,570 --> 00:28:41,370
total the whole the whole the
whole game.

566
00:28:41,530 --> 00:28:45,430
So yeah, I mean.
It was so fun.

567
00:28:45,470 --> 00:28:46,910
It was so fun.
You were in school there, man.

568
00:28:47,510 --> 00:28:49,990
I remember that game.
Yeah, I was working.

569
00:28:49,990 --> 00:28:51,430
I was working that one.
That was so much fun.

570
00:28:51,710 --> 00:28:54,350
So what caught your outfield?
I mean, you've read, you know,

571
00:28:54,390 --> 00:28:57,430
we know you're our data guy.
So looking through the magazine,

572
00:28:57,510 --> 00:29:00,790
anything you agree don't agree
with, kind of see where he's

573
00:29:00,790 --> 00:29:03,430
leaning to when it comes to
Hokey's opponents.

574
00:29:05,590 --> 00:29:08,750
I don't know if there's anything
I disagreed with too much.

575
00:29:08,750 --> 00:29:11,110
I actually, I will say one point
of agreement.

576
00:29:12,060 --> 00:29:14,900
I don't know how Purdue won
their division this year.

577
00:29:15,380 --> 00:29:17,860
They were eight and six.
The metrics didn't like them

578
00:29:17,860 --> 00:29:20,740
that much.
I know Tech fans kind of look at

579
00:29:20,740 --> 00:29:22,940
Purdue and say like oh you know
that's a, you know reigning

580
00:29:22,940 --> 00:29:24,340
division champion.
Like gotta watch out.

581
00:29:24,660 --> 00:29:27,700
I mean you know they've they're,
they were okay last year.

582
00:29:27,780 --> 00:29:30,540
They're getting new head coach.
I think that's pretty vulnerable

583
00:29:30,540 --> 00:29:33,020
game because I know that some
tech fans are kind of worried

584
00:29:33,020 --> 00:29:35,500
about that one.
So I would agree with him that

585
00:29:35,540 --> 00:29:36,860
you know produce A-Team.
That's a little bit.

586
00:29:36,860 --> 00:29:38,580
It was a little bit of a flash
in the fan last year.

587
00:29:39,860 --> 00:29:42,540
Yeah, it was in in the but.
But the Big 10 W was dreadful

588
00:29:42,540 --> 00:29:45,100
last year.
I mean Iowa like we talk about

589
00:29:45,180 --> 00:29:48,620
our offense.
The Iowa offense last year was

590
00:29:48,980 --> 00:29:52,420
Oh my God, like we might If we
would have had the Iowa offense,

591
00:29:52,500 --> 00:29:54,140
we might not have won a game
last year.

592
00:29:54,580 --> 00:29:56,860
Well, at least we had some
explosive plays like we had.

593
00:29:56,980 --> 00:29:59,100
We had some explosive plays here
there that.

594
00:29:59,140 --> 00:30:02,060
Nothing kind of boomed us a
little bit here or there.

595
00:30:02,060 --> 00:30:04,820
Like, the problem with us last
year is that if it wasn't an

596
00:30:04,820 --> 00:30:06,540
explosive play, we weren't doing
shit, Yeah.

597
00:30:07,090 --> 00:30:09,970
But here's the thing that Brett
said it I I this is where I wish

598
00:30:09,970 --> 00:30:11,330
we'd have had him for 20 more
minutes.

599
00:30:11,330 --> 00:30:13,530
He was talking about like the
West Virginia blowout and a

600
00:30:13,530 --> 00:30:15,850
couple blowouts.
Y'all we watched it.

601
00:30:16,610 --> 00:30:19,890
West Virginia was a game,
literally until the early part

602
00:30:19,890 --> 00:30:22,010
of the fourth quarter.
It won't like they took us

603
00:30:22,010 --> 00:30:24,290
behind the shed in the first
half and the game was over.

604
00:30:24,410 --> 00:30:26,810
That was a 1610 game.
Welcome to the 4th.

605
00:30:27,890 --> 00:30:32,850
That was our cornerbacks.
We had two and and they were

606
00:30:32,850 --> 00:30:34,730
gassed by the mid, mid third
quarter.

607
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:40,160
So big disagreement there.
The Pit game, which people look

608
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,440
at as, oh, you got blown out.
Y'all know about the pit game.

609
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,280
Y'all know that the pass was
over the middle.

610
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,400
We were going to fumble and then
Abaconda.

611
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:57,360
But I'm this when it comes to
Pit, you look at them, it's one

612
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,280
of these people like Shelton,
you watch their development,

613
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,440
right?
But they're never like this.

614
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,560
They're good and then they have
the dips.

615
00:31:05,340 --> 00:31:07,940
They haven't had a significant
dip since 2018.

616
00:31:08,140 --> 00:31:11,140
They've been 3820.
They had the elite defense last

617
00:31:11,140 --> 00:31:12,780
year.
They were in the 20s last year.

618
00:31:13,940 --> 00:31:16,660
Is this the year they regressed
back down into the middle of the

619
00:31:16,660 --> 00:31:19,660
pack with the defense?
Because it happens.

620
00:31:20,180 --> 00:31:22,980
It happens to just about
everybody unless you are getting

621
00:31:23,300 --> 00:31:26,700
elite talent consistent.
I think it's possible.

622
00:31:26,700 --> 00:31:28,220
I mean, like I said, obviously
depending on, you know,

623
00:31:28,220 --> 00:31:31,390
Jerkovich's health.
You know, anything can happen

624
00:31:31,390 --> 00:31:32,910
there.
I mean they they've been,

625
00:31:32,990 --> 00:31:35,510
they've been, you know, I would
say the second best team in ACC

626
00:31:35,510 --> 00:31:38,070
outside of Clemson the past, you
know, 3 or so years.

627
00:31:38,190 --> 00:31:40,190
Oh yeah.
Narduzzi typical, I mean he

628
00:31:40,190 --> 00:31:43,510
usually maximizes the town that
he has, not so much offensively

629
00:31:43,510 --> 00:31:47,030
always, but like you said,
usually when you recruit at kind

630
00:31:47,030 --> 00:31:50,470
of like that midrange like 35 to
40 level, you're going to you

631
00:31:50,470 --> 00:31:51,710
know fall back to earth
eventually.

632
00:31:52,030 --> 00:31:55,470
I think going down for last year
1130 before that it's highly

633
00:31:55,470 --> 00:31:57,750
possible that they're they're
due for regression, maybe just

634
00:31:57,750 --> 00:32:00,560
kind of some stumbles.
But still, there's no reason to

635
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,880
think that they won't be, at
least, you know, as at the bare

636
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,000
minimum I think is 7 one team
because that's really what

637
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:06,480
they've been in the past five
seasons.

638
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,360
Yeah, I don't think they're
going to fall off the bat.

639
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,160
I think their defense might drop
just enough where there'll be

640
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,600
kind of that average middle of
the pack, a CC team, kind of

641
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,640
that 6-7 range and not in the
3-4 range that we've seen the

642
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,160
last three years.
What about you tell you got, you

643
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:23,560
got to have, you got to have
something to say?

644
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,080
You always got something to say.
I just.

645
00:32:26,650 --> 00:32:29,050
The only thing to get that I
can, I can say I disagree with

646
00:32:29,050 --> 00:32:32,690
when he talked about the which
he he touched on it a little bit

647
00:32:32,970 --> 00:32:35,930
when when I asked him the
offensive starter or the

648
00:32:35,930 --> 00:32:40,930
offensive transfers.
I just feel like it's a much

649
00:32:40,930 --> 00:32:42,970
different offense than we had
last year.

650
00:32:43,530 --> 00:32:48,730
And with all the games that you
guys are talking about, we had a

651
00:32:48,730 --> 00:32:53,170
chance in a lot of those games.
Whether it was the coaching just

652
00:32:53,170 --> 00:32:56,440
wasn't where it needed to be.
Whether it was a playmaker

653
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,080
wasn't there that when we needed
them, whether it was quarterback

654
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:00,720
play, it may have been one or
two things.

655
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,840
But we were in a lot of those
games and I feel like we brought

656
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:09,320
some people in that can push us
over the hump to win a couple of

657
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,040
those games.
Because if we do win three of

658
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:17,720
those games last year or four,
however many you know it's, we

659
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,840
have a much different discussion
of what Year 2 looks like.

660
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,160
So y'all know how I feel about
this year.

661
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:29,220
I've been saying it.
Before any depth charts drop,

662
00:33:29,220 --> 00:33:32,740
before I seen anybody in pads, I
got a good feeling about this

663
00:33:32,780 --> 00:33:35,180
year.
What my good feeling is, hell, I

664
00:33:35,180 --> 00:33:36,380
don't know.
I just.

665
00:33:36,780 --> 00:33:39,340
I just think it's going to be
better than better than what

666
00:33:39,340 --> 00:33:40,340
you're saying.
I think we're going to make a

667
00:33:40,340 --> 00:33:43,620
bowl game, so.
I think what you see tally is

668
00:33:43,620 --> 00:33:47,220
and probably and we all see it
and we all look at it is year

669
00:33:47,220 --> 00:33:48,860
one, there was not much roster
turnover.

670
00:33:49,460 --> 00:33:54,050
Year two, it has been a.
A ton of roster turnover,

671
00:33:54,050 --> 00:33:57,050
including those three guys right
there coming on.

672
00:33:57,970 --> 00:34:01,570
And again, I respect Brett
because Brett looks at that.

673
00:34:01,610 --> 00:34:05,450
He doesn't lean that much into
the portal stuff because to his

674
00:34:05,450 --> 00:34:08,290
point, they produced here, can
they produce here?

675
00:34:09,130 --> 00:34:11,170
So he doesn't.
It's not like the big metric,

676
00:34:11,170 --> 00:34:14,250
because if you take a look at
the way it's kind of shaped out,

677
00:34:14,449 --> 00:34:18,650
we had a good transfer class,
not a great, but I think the way

678
00:34:18,650 --> 00:34:21,370
he shapes it is.
It's almost like doing an

679
00:34:21,370 --> 00:34:25,730
unknown commodity, right?
I don't know what Ollie Jennings

680
00:34:25,730 --> 00:34:29,530
is going to be like on Virginia
Tech with Jalen Lane is going to

681
00:34:29,530 --> 00:34:32,290
look like and he and he gave us
some good credit for for

682
00:34:32,370 --> 00:34:36,210
Jennings obviously.
But I think it's more of there.

683
00:34:36,530 --> 00:34:39,409
Yeah there's there's a lot of
potential with what drones can

684
00:34:39,409 --> 00:34:42,969
do being a former four-star
coming in if he wins the

685
00:34:42,969 --> 00:34:44,690
starting job.
There's a lot of potential what

686
00:34:44,690 --> 00:34:49,250
Toodin can do if he if what he
did at NCANT translates to

687
00:34:49,250 --> 00:34:51,810
Blacksburg.
You know same with Feld and same

688
00:34:51,810 --> 00:34:54,130
with Lane.
So when you when you look at

689
00:34:54,130 --> 00:34:59,450
those pieces there is a lot of
potential there that could be

690
00:34:59,450 --> 00:35:03,490
realized and and or it could be
more middle of the pack.

691
00:35:03,490 --> 00:35:06,610
So that's the question when you,
when you middle of the Packers

692
00:35:06,610 --> 00:35:08,970
are going to, you know, level us
up a little bit.

693
00:35:09,090 --> 00:35:11,130
When you think about everything,
nothing's guaranteed.

694
00:35:11,130 --> 00:35:14,770
When you talk about transfers,
you can have somebody that was

695
00:35:14,770 --> 00:35:18,530
starting at Alabama but gets in
trouble and then goes to.

696
00:35:19,550 --> 00:35:22,150
I don't know Tennessee and could
be a totally different player,

697
00:35:22,590 --> 00:35:24,830
you know?
So when you talk about, well,

698
00:35:24,910 --> 00:35:26,990
you know, it's a sure thing.
It's never a sure thing.

699
00:35:26,990 --> 00:35:31,230
It just comes down to whoever's
writing the article, Do they

700
00:35:31,230 --> 00:35:33,750
trust the coach that has the
player?

701
00:35:34,190 --> 00:35:38,110
So I think with our coaching
staff, it's a lot of unknown.

702
00:35:38,110 --> 00:35:42,590
So people like Brett, people
like in the college landscape,

703
00:35:42,590 --> 00:35:45,870
just don't know what Pride and
the staff can do, you know, just

704
00:35:45,870 --> 00:35:48,140
on the field.
We're saying the right things.

705
00:35:48,140 --> 00:35:51,540
We're recruiting pretty good.
Me, myself, I think they're

706
00:35:51,540 --> 00:35:54,060
going to be fine.
I think again I'm pretty

707
00:35:54,060 --> 00:35:58,660
optimistic about this year.
I think that again none of this

708
00:35:58,660 --> 00:36:02,020
matters till we hit the field.
But from what I see, I think

709
00:36:02,020 --> 00:36:04,780
that it's we going to take a
take a step forward.

710
00:36:04,780 --> 00:36:08,100
So I hope I'm right.
I can't handle another year like

711
00:36:08,100 --> 00:36:11,980
last year.
Also, regarding Curtis's point

712
00:36:11,980 --> 00:36:14,780
about the roster turnover, I was
running the numbers today and

713
00:36:14,780 --> 00:36:17,140
found that.
Virginia Tech has turned over

714
00:36:17,420 --> 00:36:19,820
40% of their scholarship roster
from last year.

715
00:36:20,940 --> 00:36:22,700
So.
I mean that kind of shows you.

716
00:36:22,700 --> 00:36:24,780
That kind of shows you what the
coaches thought about the talent

717
00:36:24,780 --> 00:36:31,580
level last year.
And credit to credit to our

718
00:36:31,580 --> 00:36:33,580
friend PP on Virginia Tech
Twitter for this one.

719
00:36:33,740 --> 00:36:37,380
I think we had 26 portal
entrance last this offseason.

720
00:36:37,860 --> 00:36:39,380
Only four of them went to power,
Five schools.

721
00:36:40,010 --> 00:36:41,730
So that was.
No.

722
00:36:41,850 --> 00:36:42,930
Like what?
We're getting rid of, like we're

723
00:36:42,930 --> 00:36:44,170
not losing.
We're not losing that much.

724
00:36:44,490 --> 00:36:46,410
It's one of those things and
that was a big point.

725
00:36:46,410 --> 00:36:50,610
It was four guys who went.
It was what Captain Mcnatty,

726
00:36:52,010 --> 00:36:53,850
UNC.
Yeah.

727
00:36:54,730 --> 00:36:57,290
Kent State is where?
Who's the 4th?

728
00:36:58,730 --> 00:36:59,770
Caleb Smith was in there.
Caleb.

729
00:36:59,770 --> 00:37:01,370
But he.
Didn't get up, but he retired.

730
00:37:01,450 --> 00:37:05,850
Yeah, so really 3 legitimate and
it's a great point.

731
00:37:05,850 --> 00:37:08,810
Sheldon, you talk about the
turnover, but it's who you moved

732
00:37:08,810 --> 00:37:10,620
out.
And it's something we hear Brent

733
00:37:10,620 --> 00:37:12,220
property all the time.
I need competition.

734
00:37:12,220 --> 00:37:13,500
I need guys who are going to
compete.

735
00:37:14,260 --> 00:37:18,340
And Tally, Brian, y'all, both
played at a collegiate level,

736
00:37:18,780 --> 00:37:23,300
demand you across from in school
who you're practicing.

737
00:37:23,300 --> 00:37:26,180
It's every day.
If it's a if it's a pushover,

738
00:37:26,540 --> 00:37:27,820
there's no challenge for you,
right?

739
00:37:28,180 --> 00:37:30,860
Yeah, yeah, well, you, I mean,
you hear all the stories.

740
00:37:30,860 --> 00:37:32,980
Anybody.
Even if you don't, if you never

741
00:37:32,980 --> 00:37:37,100
played sports, you hear about oh
this person ran scout team and

742
00:37:37,100 --> 00:37:38,860
he was amazing and he did this
and.

743
00:37:39,230 --> 00:37:41,270
He had a great look like it
makes a difference.

744
00:37:41,630 --> 00:37:45,510
Just, you know, for the the
practice competition that you

745
00:37:45,510 --> 00:37:49,670
see, you know, if you have a
quarterback that can imitate, I

746
00:37:49,670 --> 00:37:51,910
don't know, Michael Vick, which
was of course would be hard.

747
00:37:51,910 --> 00:37:55,150
But if you're going up against a
quarterback like that and you're

748
00:37:55,150 --> 00:37:57,270
able to imitate it like it's a,
it's a big deal.

749
00:37:57,270 --> 00:38:01,070
So I just don't think that we
had enough players that could

750
00:38:01,990 --> 00:38:06,990
have a significant, you know,
piece on the team last year.

751
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,360
But this year, I think it's
going to be a little.

752
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,440
Different Brian Brian's favorite
point just got brought up by Jim

753
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:17,160
West Vt Yeah, I mean I I I talk
about it a lot.

754
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,080
He, he makes the point here.
He doesn't think that Tyler

755
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,440
Bowen and Rudolph mix very well.
You know you can throw Brad

756
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,240
Glenn and that as well for being
honest.

757
00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:28,840
I think there were way too many
cooks in the kitchen last year

758
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,400
as far as what what we needed to
do, how we needed to do it.

759
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:37,060
You know, we saw some, you know,
heavy into what Rudolph has

760
00:38:37,060 --> 00:38:38,900
traditionally ran to start the
season.

761
00:38:38,900 --> 00:38:42,540
And then as we got further into
it, it looked like there was

762
00:38:42,940 --> 00:38:46,060
some of Bowen's hand on it, some
of Glen's hand on it.

763
00:38:46,060 --> 00:38:48,740
Like, you know, you hear
whispers here and there about

764
00:38:48,740 --> 00:38:50,820
who's doing what, who's calling
what.

765
00:38:50,820 --> 00:38:53,140
Like it's.
I think it was just too many

766
00:38:53,140 --> 00:38:58,140
guys that had experience being
an offensive coordinator in

767
00:38:58,140 --> 00:39:00,460
there with a guy that was doing
it for the first time, even

768
00:39:00,460 --> 00:39:04,240
though his name, the title next
to him is offensive coordinator.

769
00:39:04,240 --> 00:39:07,280
So I I think it's going to be
some addition by subtraction in

770
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,880
that front where you know the
philosophy is going to be

771
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,960
consistent and the philosophy is
going to be filtered down from

772
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,080
from one individual to the rest
of the the the coaches on that

773
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:25,200
offensive side of the ball and
less people in in Bowen's ear as

774
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:30,000
the year goes along. 100% We got
some more hokey stuff to talk,

775
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,560
but I do want to kind of.
Flip and talk about this, Brett

776
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,880
mentioned at the beginning sort
of a nostalgia year and it's

777
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:40,400
effectively it's the death of
the PAC 12 with Oregon and

778
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,080
Washington heading to the Big
10.

779
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:46,880
Colorado, which was the first
domino to fall, Arizona, Utah

780
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,920
and Arizona stall all heading to
the PAC 12.

781
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,520
And it's really funny because me
and Tally, me and Tally talked a

782
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:58,960
few minutes yesterday is like,
OK, the Big East died, OK, Big

783
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,600
East was around from 1991.
Literally us growing up and

784
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,720
shell near you a bit younger
than us, so I know it's going to

785
00:40:04,720 --> 00:40:07,560
hit a little bit different.
But for me, Brian and Jonathan

786
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:11,360
here and Tyler here, the PAC 12
had been literally a part of our

787
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:12,800
life.
Like remember, eight or nine

788
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:17,120
years old, they they show like
UCLA and the Rose Bowl or USC

789
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,160
and that's gone.
It's gone.

790
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:21,920
We're never going to see that
again.

791
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,680
And just what are y'all's
thoughts in whoever wants to

792
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:27,800
lead lead?
What are your thoughts about

793
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:32,030
what this realignment's going
through in general with this

794
00:40:32,030 --> 00:40:35,470
happening?
I mean I think it's, it's

795
00:40:35,470 --> 00:40:38,710
bittersweet here a little bit.
You know the PAC 12 has been

796
00:40:38,710 --> 00:40:41,150
around what, 100 years, over 100
years.

797
00:40:42,350 --> 00:40:46,470
I mean it's it's not, it's not a
flash in the pay and conference

798
00:40:46,470 --> 00:40:49,630
or kind of a mix and match.
It's something that has had some

799
00:40:49,630 --> 00:40:53,470
sort of core group for a very
long period of time.

800
00:40:54,590 --> 00:40:58,990
So from that front, it's a
little sad but.

801
00:41:00,180 --> 00:41:03,100
You know, this is something I
think everyone saw coming,

802
00:41:03,420 --> 00:41:09,420
especially once, yes.
The last round of of realignment

803
00:41:09,420 --> 00:41:12,220
started.
You know, once you once you lose

804
00:41:12,220 --> 00:41:15,460
kind of an anchor piece like
USC, the writing is on the wall.

805
00:41:18,180 --> 00:41:22,340
But you know, I I think it's
going to be all right.

806
00:41:22,900 --> 00:41:29,180
I'm I'm more worried now about
where the Hokies can land in all

807
00:41:29,180 --> 00:41:31,820
of this.
Then about what?

808
00:41:32,380 --> 00:41:34,860
Saving college football or
whatever that means.

809
00:41:34,860 --> 00:41:37,620
Like, I just want to make sure
that the Hokies stay relevant.

810
00:41:37,660 --> 00:41:38,940
That's really the only thing I
care about.

811
00:41:40,540 --> 00:41:42,700
Well, I care about two things.
I care about the Hokies

812
00:41:42,700 --> 00:41:48,980
remaining relevant and give me
this damn NCAA Football game so

813
00:41:48,980 --> 00:41:52,060
I can go build my own team and
put them where I want them to be

814
00:41:52,580 --> 00:41:56,820
and win some championships.
So EA Sports, stop pushing it

815
00:41:56,820 --> 00:41:58,300
back.
Let's get it right.

816
00:41:58,780 --> 00:42:03,060
Hey whoever, you got to pay so I
can get on the game and kick

817
00:42:03,060 --> 00:42:06,580
seal of that.
What do you say?

818
00:42:07,140 --> 00:42:08,580
Well, you guys.
Sheldon, I know you had some

819
00:42:08,580 --> 00:42:11,260
thoughts about this in general.
Yeah.

820
00:42:11,260 --> 00:42:13,620
Look, I mean for me it's all
about perspective, right?

821
00:42:13,620 --> 00:42:16,980
You mentioned how you know I,
I'm a lot younger than you guys.

822
00:42:16,980 --> 00:42:20,100
So the cultural eye experience
was different from the cultural

823
00:42:20,100 --> 00:42:22,380
you guys experience, right?
Like I did not grow up with the

824
00:42:22,380 --> 00:42:24,660
Southwest Conference and so
because of that, I don't really

825
00:42:24,660 --> 00:42:26,260
care about the Southwest
Conference.

826
00:42:26,260 --> 00:42:28,340
But you know, that ended in the
90s.

827
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,960
And now we're seeing the PAC 12
probably going to fold pretty

828
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,320
soon.
I think the nature of college

829
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,640
sports is change, and I think
sometimes people have a hard

830
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,000
time accepting it.
That's not to say that what's

831
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,120
happening right now in college
football is necessarily for the

832
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:45,640
better, but it it's the change
has been the nature of of

833
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,920
college sports forever.
And people have always talked

834
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:49,840
about, you know, the influence
of money.

835
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,240
It's all about the TV ratings.
There's no, there's no heart in

836
00:42:52,240 --> 00:42:54,360
the game anymore.
I mean, people have been saying

837
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,820
this stuff for decades.
You know, if you go back deep

838
00:42:56,820 --> 00:42:59,740
enough, even in the 1930s,
believe it or not.

839
00:43:00,220 --> 00:43:02,340
So I just, I try to have
perspective.

840
00:43:02,340 --> 00:43:05,500
At the end of the day, the
question asked myself is, one,

841
00:43:05,540 --> 00:43:07,980
will there be football in 2024?
Yes.

842
00:43:08,100 --> 00:43:11,740
And two, will I be rooting for
Virginia Tech in 2024 also?

843
00:43:11,740 --> 00:43:13,700
Yes.
So with that in mind.

844
00:43:14,660 --> 00:43:17,460
Yeah, like I'm just, I'm still
going to go to the games, I'm

845
00:43:17,500 --> 00:43:19,620
still going to watch football,
I'm still going to, you know, go

846
00:43:19,620 --> 00:43:23,100
to Pks my friends afterwards.
So I just, I tried.

847
00:43:23,100 --> 00:43:25,380
I tried to have perspective and
realize that, you know, it's not

848
00:43:25,380 --> 00:43:26,980
going anywhere.
I personally think culture will

849
00:43:26,980 --> 00:43:28,380
be fine.
It's going to look a lot

850
00:43:28,380 --> 00:43:29,540
different.
I know you what's gonna happen

851
00:43:29,540 --> 00:43:32,500
in the next five or six years,
but it's still football and

852
00:43:32,500 --> 00:43:32,940
we'd.
Love that.

853
00:43:33,300 --> 00:43:34,860
Now I got a question for you
Sheldon.

854
00:43:35,300 --> 00:43:38,020
This is on a little bit of a
different level, a little pivot

855
00:43:38,020 --> 00:43:40,740
here for you because we know you
know a lot of people, man.

856
00:43:40,740 --> 00:43:42,700
You know we we definitely happy
on the show.

857
00:43:43,150 --> 00:43:44,190
We know you know a lot of
people.

858
00:43:44,190 --> 00:43:46,870
We know you work a lot of
different places but you're

859
00:43:46,870 --> 00:43:51,670
pretty you you know some cool
guys on on on Twitter or what

860
00:43:51,670 --> 00:43:55,230
are we calling it X now?
You know some cool guys on there

861
00:43:55,590 --> 00:44:00,110
and a certain account that you
know is really, really good at

862
00:44:00,110 --> 00:44:03,950
making memes and in in different
videos and things like that.

863
00:44:04,270 --> 00:44:07,670
So I'm wondering, do you, have
you talked to that, that account

864
00:44:07,670 --> 00:44:11,500
or that gentleman or lady?
About some of this conference

865
00:44:11,500 --> 00:44:14,540
realignment and have some of
those videos and stuff queued up

866
00:44:14,540 --> 00:44:15,940
yet?
Nope.

867
00:44:16,020 --> 00:44:20,980
I plead the 5th.
All right, he's pleading the

868
00:44:20,980 --> 00:44:22,860
5th.
And that's going to go no

869
00:44:22,860 --> 00:44:25,780
further concerning the death of
the PAC 12.

870
00:44:25,780 --> 00:44:28,940
But let's talk about this.
It came out yesterday and today,

871
00:44:29,380 --> 00:44:33,500
ACC potentially adding Stanford
Cal and SMU.

872
00:44:33,820 --> 00:44:35,740
Don't.
If y'all can hear from my voice,

873
00:44:36,020 --> 00:44:38,700
I'm not very excited about that
at all.

874
00:44:39,730 --> 00:44:43,490
Because they screwed the pooch.
When if you actually would have

875
00:44:43,490 --> 00:44:47,170
attempted to go after brand
names, more known names, teams

876
00:44:47,170 --> 00:44:50,850
that have been in the Rose Bowl
in the last few years, the Nike

877
00:44:50,850 --> 00:44:55,570
team, one of the, you know,
Washington who has a 75,000 seat

878
00:44:55,570 --> 00:44:57,850
stadium.
You might could have

879
00:44:57,850 --> 00:45:01,090
renegotiated your contract to
something actually viable.

880
00:45:01,210 --> 00:45:05,430
And and I sit here, I think we
speak a year from today because

881
00:45:05,430 --> 00:45:08,750
you know, I can't remember who
it was exactly, but somebody out

882
00:45:08,750 --> 00:45:11,950
there put up that if you're
going to leave a conference, the

883
00:45:11,950 --> 00:45:15,510
A/C G's particular the 15th of
August, you have to be advising.

884
00:45:16,430 --> 00:45:20,190
I don't think that's coming this
year, but in my opinion, I think

885
00:45:20,310 --> 00:45:21,790
realignment's going to happen
again.

886
00:45:21,790 --> 00:45:25,230
I think the ACC is dead in the
year and I mean dead

887
00:45:25,550 --> 00:45:28,310
effectively.
There's a date set when multiple

888
00:45:28,310 --> 00:45:31,150
teams are leaving.
What about y'all?

889
00:45:32,490 --> 00:45:38,450
I mean, let me circle back real
quick on the on the Stanford Cal

890
00:45:38,450 --> 00:45:40,050
SMU.
Oh yeah, you'll start that.

891
00:45:41,090 --> 00:45:46,530
We did an episode called Loose
Partnership after the PAC 12 and

892
00:45:46,570 --> 00:45:51,490
ACC, and all of that came out
after the last round of

893
00:45:51,490 --> 00:45:56,450
realignment and we said.
This loose partnership isn't

894
00:45:56,450 --> 00:45:58,370
going to mean shit.
They're going to there's going

895
00:45:58,370 --> 00:46:00,290
to be teams that jump, and
that's that's the only thing

896
00:46:00,290 --> 00:46:04,650
that's going to matter.
Then we saw USC and and UCLA

897
00:46:04,650 --> 00:46:07,970
jump.
So the loose partnership was

898
00:46:07,970 --> 00:46:10,450
always dumb.
We said at the time, if you're

899
00:46:10,450 --> 00:46:12,650
going to do something like that,
you need to go ahead and merge

900
00:46:12,650 --> 00:46:15,130
the two conferences.
And that's what probably should

901
00:46:15,130 --> 00:46:18,810
have happened at that time if
you wanted some form of the PAC

902
00:46:18,810 --> 00:46:22,660
12 and a CC to survive.
In the next five years.

903
00:46:22,660 --> 00:46:29,380
That being said, I don't think
the ACC is dead in a year, but

904
00:46:29,540 --> 00:46:33,260
if they lose FSU and they lose
Clemson, they are going to be on

905
00:46:33,260 --> 00:46:39,140
life support alright.
So whatever, whatever you take

906
00:46:39,140 --> 00:46:41,340
of that, that that's where we
are.

907
00:46:41,340 --> 00:46:45,740
So if that is the thing that
precipitates another six teams

908
00:46:45,740 --> 00:46:48,300
that jump ship, then yes, the
ACC will be dead.

909
00:46:48,300 --> 00:46:51,180
But I think they're going to
unfortunately, hang on.

910
00:46:51,540 --> 00:46:54,060
For a little bit longer after
that, and I'm hoping that we're

911
00:46:54,060 --> 00:46:59,180
one of the next round that gets
out if FSU and Clemson jump ship

912
00:46:59,180 --> 00:47:02,060
in the next year.
Sheldon.

913
00:47:03,420 --> 00:47:06,380
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know where where for a

914
00:47:06,380 --> 00:47:08,100
sake could go.
Cuz like I don't.

915
00:47:08,100 --> 00:47:11,620
I don't know if the SEC wants to
expand more and they also have

916
00:47:11,620 --> 00:47:13,620
the ESPN contract, so they'd
essentially be negotiated

917
00:47:13,620 --> 00:47:15,700
against themselves for the.
To the payout.

918
00:47:16,020 --> 00:47:19,340
Maybe I'm wrong.
I kind of flip-flopped on this a

919
00:47:19,340 --> 00:47:21,260
little bit.
Part of me thinks like it's

920
00:47:21,260 --> 00:47:24,220
impossible to get out of the Gor
because of the absurd amount of

921
00:47:24,260 --> 00:47:26,180
cost.
But also part of me thinks that

922
00:47:26,780 --> 00:47:28,940
the state of Florida's going to
have some judge that can just

923
00:47:28,940 --> 00:47:31,460
lure their way out of it and
kind of give that to see if we

924
00:47:31,460 --> 00:47:33,740
pass, which given the state of
Florida would not really

925
00:47:33,740 --> 00:47:36,620
surprise me.
So yeah, there's going to be a

926
00:47:36,620 --> 00:47:39,220
lot of politics in this, but
like I said, I just don't.

927
00:47:39,860 --> 00:47:41,380
I've.
I've flipped off both ways and I

928
00:47:41,380 --> 00:47:43,540
just don't really have a clear
opinion at this point.

929
00:47:45,100 --> 00:47:46,900
Kind of the same way.
I mean, I don't really have a

930
00:47:46,900 --> 00:47:50,340
clear opinion.
I know that the ACC talking

931
00:47:50,340 --> 00:47:55,220
about adding Stanford and Cal is
probably stupid because I mean,

932
00:47:55,220 --> 00:47:58,980
just think about travel time and
other stuff like that.

933
00:47:59,100 --> 00:48:01,260
I guess that's just not a good
fit.

934
00:48:01,500 --> 00:48:04,460
So I don't know it.
Gives us.

935
00:48:04,460 --> 00:48:08,060
It's not worth.
It's not worth the bump to also

936
00:48:08,180 --> 00:48:10,340
factor in what you said, the
additional travel time and

937
00:48:10,340 --> 00:48:12,180
everything else, and probably
having to kill at least.

938
00:48:12,660 --> 00:48:14,940
One or two nonreal sports to
accommodate that.

939
00:48:15,380 --> 00:48:18,020
That's true.
Well the only upside would be

940
00:48:18,100 --> 00:48:21,420
you know, excuses to stay up to
like 2 in the morning on

941
00:48:21,420 --> 00:48:23,580
Saturdays if when tech's.
Out West.

942
00:48:24,140 --> 00:48:25,580
I'm gonna.
I'm gonna be up till two.

943
00:48:25,580 --> 00:48:28,220
I had to sleep anymore.
Yeah, I'm gonna let the fans.

944
00:48:28,220 --> 00:48:30,900
So I'll watch games late at
night anyway, and I'm very

945
00:48:30,900 --> 00:48:33,260
disappointed while watching
them, so I'm used to that.

946
00:48:33,620 --> 00:48:37,260
But when I think about it, you
know, you think about just say,

947
00:48:37,500 --> 00:48:40,060
I don't know, freaking softball
or baseball.

948
00:48:40,060 --> 00:48:45,770
Having a game on a Wednesday.
In California, like what?

949
00:48:45,770 --> 00:48:48,010
Is it Palo Alto or something
Palo Alto?

950
00:48:48,090 --> 00:48:50,650
How do you, how do you do that?
How do you, how do you make that

951
00:48:50,650 --> 00:48:52,570
work?
I'm not the guy that knows how

952
00:48:52,570 --> 00:48:54,250
to fix that, but how do you make
it work?

953
00:48:54,410 --> 00:48:57,210
That's all football.
If they don't it, no other sport

954
00:48:57,210 --> 00:49:00,770
matters.
See what Jim's got here again

955
00:49:00,810 --> 00:49:06,130
Cal, Stanford, SMU to keep the
association with Notre Dame with

956
00:49:06,130 --> 00:49:08,530
the ESPN.
I can't see them pushing for an

957
00:49:08,570 --> 00:49:13,300
ES the the SEC ACC merger, since
they merged their property.

958
00:49:14,380 --> 00:49:17,900
Yeah, I don't see the first one
makes sense, makes a lot of

959
00:49:17,900 --> 00:49:20,140
logical sense.
The second one doesn't make

960
00:49:20,140 --> 00:49:24,620
sense to me, but but the issue
is this, and we talk about Gor

961
00:49:24,620 --> 00:49:26,940
and Chum you brought up, they
can't get out of the GR.

962
00:49:27,100 --> 00:49:30,740
There's one way the GRR ends.
If the conference devolves, you

963
00:49:30,740 --> 00:49:35,580
need 8.
And if it's not, if the SEC is

964
00:49:35,580 --> 00:49:39,120
going to expand because
eventually the Big 10 numbers

965
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:42,920
are going to get up to 1520
million more tally you down in

966
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:44,880
SEC country.
They ain't the biggest fan of

967
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:48,200
being the second most paid
conference.

968
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:53,400
That's going to happen when when
that shifts, there's going to be

969
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,760
4 that goes to the South.
There's going to be two that go

970
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:57,680
up north, and there's going to
be two that goes out West.

971
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,320
And they're going to come in and
say we call for a vote of

972
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,000
disillusionment.
They're going to dissolve the

973
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:04,840
conference.
There is no ACC.

974
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:08,920
There is no grant of rights.
I'm to Brian, you said it the

975
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,360
other day.
We're guaranteed a landing spot,

976
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:15,880
but I think we all want it to be
one of the better landing spots

977
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:20,080
and not the Big 12.
I just want to land somewhere so

978
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:24,040
we can win 10 games or win a I
mean put me in the Sunbelt so we

979
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:25,960
can win the temperature.
Put me in the.

980
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:30,040
I mean, we going to a bigger, we
going to a bigger playoff,

981
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,040
right?
We going to a bigger playoff.

982
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,320
We going to a bigger playoff,
but they're probably going to

983
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:36,560
renegotiate.
How?

984
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:39,160
Being courteous to talk.
To I don't want to go.

985
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:40,560
I don't want to go to the
Sunbelt.

986
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:41,640
I'm joking around, that makes
sure.

987
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,680
You're joking about it, but I'm
I, I, I just.

988
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,000
It's so much being thrown around
right now.

989
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,000
So many people are like, up in
arms about it.

990
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,840
It's just like I'm to hear what
Shelton says is kind of how I

991
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:54,920
am.
It's like, am I going to watch

992
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:56,560
football if it's being played?
Yes.

993
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:58,520
Am I going to be rooting for the
Hocus?

994
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:00,640
Yes.
That's all I really know right

995
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:01,520
now.
All the other stuff.

996
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:02,680
Shit.
I don't know what they're going

997
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:03,700
to do.
I don't either.

998
00:51:03,700 --> 00:51:05,100
But I sit here, I like to
speculate.

999
00:51:05,100 --> 00:51:06,860
I like to talk.
I also want to come.

1000
00:51:06,900 --> 00:51:10,140
I want us to be in a conference
that's getting paid because we

1001
00:51:10,140 --> 00:51:13,460
joke about the Sunbelt.
You imagine getting $20 million

1002
00:51:13,460 --> 00:51:15,340
a year.
Hey, now go compete.

1003
00:51:15,860 --> 00:51:17,220
Don't compete.
There's 20 million you.

1004
00:51:17,780 --> 00:51:20,740
Don't get no recruits, huh?
You better have some good.

1005
00:51:20,740 --> 00:51:22,380
Developments, the conference
you're recruiting again is

1006
00:51:22,380 --> 00:51:24,540
getting five times that or four
times that.

1007
00:51:25,060 --> 00:51:27,140
And and I think that's where the
issue lies.

1008
00:51:27,140 --> 00:51:31,820
And I think me and Brian
discussed Friday, we had a

1009
00:51:31,820 --> 00:51:35,270
little phone call and let me
tell you what the playoff they

1010
00:51:35,270 --> 00:51:39,230
go, I think they go to 24, I
think they go to 24 and then

1011
00:51:39,230 --> 00:51:42,230
they look and say we can have
three divisions or we have 4

1012
00:51:42,230 --> 00:51:44,150
divisions.
You want a division in the Big

1013
00:51:44,150 --> 00:51:45,830
10 of the SEC, you get in the
playoff.

1014
00:51:46,590 --> 00:51:49,190
We'll figure out the other ones
in a few in a few years.

1015
00:51:49,830 --> 00:51:53,630
Yeah, I'm crazy like that.
I wouldn't doubt it.

1016
00:51:54,230 --> 00:51:56,630
Alright, let's flip it over.
Let's actually talk some fun

1017
00:51:56,630 --> 00:51:59,480
stuff hokey wise here boys.
Let's talk about a couple

1018
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,440
commitments.
Let's start with the offensive

1019
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:07,560
tackle out of Macon, GA Webb,
Davidson, 6 foot six, 290 pound,

1020
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:13,160
three star rated by 247.
Brian Y'all, Who had a chance to

1021
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:15,080
look at him?
What do y'all think of him?

1022
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,320
I have not had much to dive into
this kid yet.

1023
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,320
Not a lot of tape out there that
I could find, but I mean, I love

1024
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,680
the size 66291.
I mean, it's hard to argue with

1025
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:28,320
that as a tackle coming in.
That's a Power 5 build.

1026
00:52:29,100 --> 00:52:31,540
We talked about the other day, I
mean if you got a guy with that

1027
00:52:31,540 --> 00:52:34,820
type of size, he's got some of
the athletic traits, I think you

1028
00:52:34,820 --> 00:52:35,980
could get something out of that
guy.

1029
00:52:35,980 --> 00:52:40,940
So like the pick up, I mean it's
not not a flashy rating in terms

1030
00:52:40,940 --> 00:52:47,060
of the the recruiting sites out
there, but solid power 5 rating

1031
00:52:47,060 --> 00:52:50,460
for a for a tackle and with that
size I think we can work with

1032
00:52:50,460 --> 00:52:53,780
them.
Yeah, and he's been, apparently

1033
00:52:53,780 --> 00:52:56,220
he's got something that they
like, you know, they probably

1034
00:52:56,220 --> 00:52:59,710
crook likes because.
All of us who follow recruiting

1035
00:52:59,710 --> 00:53:02,550
have heard his name for a little
bit of time.

1036
00:53:03,150 --> 00:53:06,670
There's been a lot of other
names thrown out and you know I

1037
00:53:06,670 --> 00:53:09,070
guess they didn't move on them
or they weren't moved by him.

1038
00:53:10,030 --> 00:53:14,350
But this guy, we heard about him
a little while ago and they they

1039
00:53:14,350 --> 00:53:16,630
made sure to to keep him in the
fold.

1040
00:53:16,630 --> 00:53:21,510
So that is that is again good
size.

1041
00:53:21,510 --> 00:53:24,270
I I haven't watched like Brian
said much film on him.

1042
00:53:24,270 --> 00:53:25,790
There's not much film out there
but.

1043
00:53:27,950 --> 00:53:30,190
He's BMF.
He is.

1044
00:53:30,510 --> 00:53:33,590
And if you, if you look, if you
want to know how big he is, take

1045
00:53:33,590 --> 00:53:36,190
a look at the picture.
It's on 247.

1046
00:53:36,190 --> 00:53:38,270
He's standing next to 75.
I think that's a kid out of

1047
00:53:38,270 --> 00:53:40,910
Christiansburg.
He's like legitimately 68.

1048
00:53:41,670 --> 00:53:44,710
And he he he right there just
about out of out of with him.

1049
00:53:45,270 --> 00:53:47,870
All right, let's talk about the
one nobody saw coming.

1050
00:53:48,790 --> 00:53:51,350
I didn't see it.
Y'all, didn't see it until it

1051
00:53:51,350 --> 00:53:54,590
literally dropped.
We going back to Texas boys.

1052
00:53:54,590 --> 00:54:00,250
We going back to Texas, Texas to
Vt Texas to VP out of Fort Worth

1053
00:54:00,250 --> 00:54:03,210
TX.
Kelton Ryan 6 foot 195 pound

1054
00:54:03,210 --> 00:54:10,290
quarterback in 86 with offers
from Arkansas, Baylor, Miami.

1055
00:54:10,290 --> 00:54:16,210
OK State pit Penn State guys got
a lot of offers to be a mid

1056
00:54:16,490 --> 00:54:19,690
three.
I know the the the comments are

1057
00:54:19,690 --> 00:54:26,170
he was playing at a very bad
school and he's effectively

1058
00:54:26,170 --> 00:54:29,730
transferred to a better school.
I mean it.

1059
00:54:29,970 --> 00:54:32,050
If you watch a little bit, I
think I said a little bit of

1060
00:54:32,050 --> 00:54:36,930
highlights and a little bit of
working out and stuff when you

1061
00:54:36,930 --> 00:54:39,210
see an awful list like that
because you can't just say, of

1062
00:54:39,490 --> 00:54:43,010
course, like ratings do matter.
People say they don't, they do.

1063
00:54:43,170 --> 00:54:46,570
Ratings matter.
But when you see an awful list

1064
00:54:46,570 --> 00:54:49,090
like that and then you see the
rating, it just doesn't match

1065
00:54:49,090 --> 00:54:51,130
up.
But then when you watch like a

1066
00:54:51,130 --> 00:54:53,850
little bit of his tape.
And what he's good at and what

1067
00:54:53,850 --> 00:54:55,850
he does, you say okay shit, I
see.

1068
00:54:56,970 --> 00:55:01,370
I can see a coach going to watch
somebody else play and see him

1069
00:55:01,370 --> 00:55:03,010
and be like, who the hell is
that?

1070
00:55:03,090 --> 00:55:04,970
You know what I'm saying?
Which is probably how it

1071
00:55:04,970 --> 00:55:07,810
happened or he started camping
late.

1072
00:55:08,370 --> 00:55:10,850
It's why he doesn't have a
bigger bump in the in the

1073
00:55:10,850 --> 00:55:14,090
ratings.
But again, he's a 2025 kid.

1074
00:55:14,370 --> 00:55:18,690
He's got a long time, you know,
he's got a long time to, to get

1075
00:55:19,170 --> 00:55:21,890
more offers, to get bigger,
faster, stronger.

1076
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,360
To also, you know, get a bump in
in in rating.

1077
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:29,640
So I'll be interested to see.
I haven't dug into it a lot to

1078
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:30,960
see.
Like, yeah, that's how

1079
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,560
quarterback of the future.
But I'll be interested to see

1080
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:35,800
kind of how his progression
goes.

1081
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,040
Absolutely all.
Right.

1082
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:42,920
So I'm I'm gonna say it.
This guy is Pop Watson skill

1083
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:47,240
set, but he's got much bigger
size coming out of the high

1084
00:55:47,240 --> 00:55:49,800
school.
He's already 61, almost 200.

1085
00:55:50,380 --> 00:55:52,820
Get two more years going into
going into his junior year high

1086
00:55:52,820 --> 00:55:54,500
school.
So what you're saying is

1087
00:55:54,500 --> 00:55:57,700
potentially pop skill set,
potentially drones body?

1088
00:55:58,500 --> 00:56:00,020
Yeah.
Somewhere, somewhere in that

1089
00:56:00,020 --> 00:56:02,580
ballpark, yeah.
So that that's kind of what I'd

1090
00:56:02,580 --> 00:56:04,340
like to see if he really jumped
off on tape.

1091
00:56:04,780 --> 00:56:07,220
Obviously he was playing on a
team that wasn't very well.

1092
00:56:07,220 --> 00:56:10,500
I don't know what the
competition level was relative

1093
00:56:10,500 --> 00:56:13,220
to that as well.
I'm interested to see now that

1094
00:56:13,220 --> 00:56:15,940
he's in a on a better team, in a
better conference, in a better

1095
00:56:15,940 --> 00:56:19,610
district down there, you know?
How his junior year shakes out

1096
00:56:19,610 --> 00:56:21,610
because if he goes out there and
has a big junior year, I'm

1097
00:56:21,690 --> 00:56:23,210
you're going to see a bump to a
four-star.

1098
00:56:23,570 --> 00:56:26,850
Oh yeah, Did you see that?
Did y'all see the video of him

1099
00:56:26,850 --> 00:56:28,330
working out in the Virginia Tech
shirt?

1100
00:56:28,570 --> 00:56:30,090
Yeah, that was back in like
April.

1101
00:56:30,450 --> 00:56:34,650
Yeah, so apparently they've been
on him for a while but him

1102
00:56:34,650 --> 00:56:37,530
working out in that Virginia
Tech shirt just again, when

1103
00:56:37,530 --> 00:56:40,850
you're when you're.
I don't put a lot into like

1104
00:56:40,850 --> 00:56:43,850
people working out or 707 stuff
for me.

1105
00:56:43,850 --> 00:56:46,970
I'd rather see you in pads, but
for a quarterback just to see

1106
00:56:46,970 --> 00:56:49,400
Kenny throat.
Like, he's got some good

1107
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:51,200
mechanics and he can, he can
spin the ball.

1108
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:54,680
So it was good to see that.
Yeah, absolutely.

1109
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:56,800
All right, so a couple more
commits there.

1110
00:56:56,800 --> 00:57:00,440
We've obviously got a few more
places in the boat left.

1111
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:03,800
Obviously, I don't have this on
the rundown, but I'm sure y'all

1112
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:05,960
saw it.
Our buddy and Roanoke, our music

1113
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:07,760
man.
Jason actually texted to me and

1114
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,960
Brian this morning at 6:30.
Chris Cole set to commit

1115
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:14,680
September 10th, the day after
the Purdue game.

1116
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:18,120
We'll see how that goes, but
let's talk about a few other

1117
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:19,760
things in camp.
We're going to talk about a

1118
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:23,360
couple position battles as well.
But I always mention something

1119
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,800
that I listened to Coach Prize
interview last Thursday, the

1120
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,640
first one, and he mentioned they
changed it up.

1121
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:33,680
Something he shared with us that
basically always evaluating,

1122
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:36,200
always looking to do things
different, how they shape and

1123
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,280
shift things.
And he mentioned for this

1124
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:41,480
particular fall camp they're
doing effectively 5 minute

1125
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:47,190
camps, 3 on one off.
Callie Siegler y'all went

1126
00:57:47,190 --> 00:57:51,110
through college camps.
Tell me what y'all like about

1127
00:57:51,110 --> 00:57:54,630
this concept and what y'all hate
about this concept of three in

1128
00:57:54,630 --> 00:58:00,750
ones up until up until the 20
the week of the 20th.

1129
00:58:02,390 --> 00:58:05,430
For me, I think he's they're
trying to find ways to keep

1130
00:58:05,430 --> 00:58:07,510
people healthy.
You know, because you're just

1131
00:58:07,510 --> 00:58:12,750
getting a roster that I can say
you you semi trust.

1132
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:15,720
And you got a lot of new guys in
there, so I think they're trying

1133
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:19,800
to see them, which every college
does, ice baths and stuff like

1134
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,240
that.
But probably talked about some

1135
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,880
of the guys not playing when he
was on with us talking about

1136
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:26,600
some of them not playing in the
spring game.

1137
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:31,680
And you hate to see somebody go
down in a game like that or even

1138
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,320
in fall practice.
So I think that they're just

1139
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:39,920
trying to maneuver to to make
sure that we have.

1140
00:58:40,750 --> 00:58:43,630
As much camaraderie as possible,
but as little injuries as

1141
00:58:43,630 --> 00:58:45,150
possible.
I think that's where you're

1142
00:58:45,150 --> 00:58:49,630
getting three days on the field,
one day off, and then so on and

1143
00:58:49,630 --> 00:58:52,670
so forth.
But when you say what don't you

1144
00:58:52,670 --> 00:58:55,270
like about it?
It's just the fear of the

1145
00:58:55,270 --> 00:58:58,670
unknown for the most part.
Like you, if you've never done

1146
00:58:58,670 --> 00:59:00,550
that and you never seen it, of
course you're going to be kind

1147
00:59:00,550 --> 00:59:01,990
of skeptical if something goes
wrong.

1148
00:59:01,990 --> 00:59:04,430
It's like, are we missing time?
You need to get as many

1149
00:59:04,430 --> 00:59:08,230
practices in as possible.
Are we missing this or so?

1150
00:59:08,230 --> 00:59:11,980
Just things like that, but.
Hopefully it works out and we

1151
00:59:11,980 --> 00:59:14,260
see a big jump as far as
production on the field.

1152
00:59:15,460 --> 00:59:18,460
Yeah, I mean looking at it for
me it's, you know the positive

1153
00:59:18,460 --> 00:59:21,580
is going to be keeping healthy,
keeping fresh, having fresh legs

1154
00:59:22,060 --> 00:59:25,340
for longer stretches of those
full padded practice, those

1155
00:59:25,340 --> 00:59:28,260
shell practices.
I think that's that's going to

1156
00:59:28,260 --> 00:59:31,100
be the biggest benefit looking
at it.

1157
00:59:31,100 --> 00:59:34,620
On the flip side, what I can see
being somewhat problematic is

1158
00:59:34,620 --> 00:59:38,980
maybe we got a lot of new guys
coming in both.

1159
00:59:39,500 --> 00:59:44,260
Freshmen and the transfers.
Sometimes when you get into a

1160
00:59:44,660 --> 00:59:50,060
practice routine, you get into a
rhythm and I don't know if like

1161
00:59:50,060 --> 00:59:53,700
a day off might throw off some
of the rhythm and potentially,

1162
00:59:53,700 --> 00:59:56,660
you know, disrupt some of that
progress that some of those

1163
00:59:56,660 --> 00:59:58,980
younger guys or some of those
newer guys are making within the

1164
00:59:58,980 --> 01:00:03,620
new schemes.
Tell anything just obviously you

1165
01:00:03,700 --> 01:00:06,140
we were around the program for
years, you've known it for

1166
01:00:06,140 --> 01:00:09,260
years, you follow sports in
general and he feels on this.

1167
01:00:10,340 --> 01:00:13,660
No, it's hard to say because I
never really laced them up put

1168
01:00:13,660 --> 01:00:16,220
on the pads.
But I mean I like what what

1169
01:00:16,220 --> 01:00:19,380
prize kind of talking about as
far as like you know, just

1170
01:00:19,380 --> 01:00:22,780
trying to find some sort of I
guess identity.

1171
01:00:22,780 --> 01:00:25,060
I know his press conversation.
He kind of talked about this

1172
01:00:25,060 --> 01:00:28,700
five principles, you know,
things like accountability,

1173
01:00:28,700 --> 01:00:30,540
leadership.
And I think he's done a good job

1174
01:00:31,060 --> 01:00:36,100
of identity that isn't just like
a chalkboard slogan actually

1175
01:00:36,100 --> 01:00:38,180
kind of putting into practice.
And you kind of see that, like

1176
01:00:38,180 --> 01:00:40,790
when he said.
You know when you first got here

1177
01:00:40,790 --> 01:00:44,030
like guys were okay with losing
reps, guys are okay, teams were

1178
01:00:44,030 --> 01:00:46,150
okay with with losing battles
like that type of stuff.

1179
01:00:46,190 --> 01:00:48,710
I mean you know that's that's
the stuff that's the type of

1180
01:00:48,710 --> 01:00:51,270
culture building where you can
kind of see it happen.

1181
01:00:51,910 --> 01:00:55,230
So just to see those things kind
of put into put into practice is

1182
01:00:55,230 --> 01:00:57,270
pretty good to see.
Now we'll translate to wins, you

1183
01:00:57,270 --> 01:00:59,910
know sooner or later we'll see.
But I just, I really like the

1184
01:00:59,910 --> 01:01:02,390
way he's kind of gone about it
and I think it's really good at

1185
01:01:02,390 --> 01:01:07,000
managing perception.
And I think just getting the fan

1186
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,520
base excited and and having
things to kind of look for.

1187
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:12,160
So he's definitely, in terms of
the PR game, he's at 10 out of

1188
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:15,240
10 right there.
I feel like the culture under

1189
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:18,120
Fuente was like it was.
It was good enough.

1190
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:21,760
Like it wasn't winning every Rep
it was.

1191
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,000
We're good enough and it can be
that.

1192
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:28,840
Way we're getting by.
So I mean, I feel like, you

1193
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,440
know, winning every Rep The
competition that he's brought is

1194
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:33,640
definitely, I think, improve the
culture.

1195
01:01:34,230 --> 01:01:38,590
Around the program and I think
we're seeing that Thomas Train

1196
01:01:38,590 --> 01:01:42,710
actually there was the comment
that I threw on there.

1197
01:01:42,710 --> 01:01:44,950
He talked about better
evaluation, doing it every 3rd

1198
01:01:44,950 --> 01:01:46,270
day.
Yeah, that's a really good

1199
01:01:46,270 --> 01:01:47,910
point.
That's a really good point

1200
01:01:47,910 --> 01:01:52,510
because you actually have a day
where you can really sit and

1201
01:01:52,510 --> 01:01:56,710
focus on breaking down some of
that practice tape, seeing what

1202
01:01:56,990 --> 01:02:00,070
you know you you see it on the
field obviously, but.

1203
01:02:00,610 --> 01:02:03,650
You get a little bit more time
to really truly dig into that

1204
01:02:03,650 --> 01:02:07,250
practice tape and evaluate and
maybe even shuffle things a

1205
01:02:07,250 --> 01:02:11,050
little bit as far as whether
it's how you want to practice

1206
01:02:11,050 --> 01:02:14,810
the next day or next set of
days, how you want to do the

1207
01:02:14,810 --> 01:02:16,930
rotations.
So there's so much that you can

1208
01:02:16,930 --> 01:02:20,250
really glean from that by doing
three on, one off.

1209
01:02:20,250 --> 01:02:22,730
So that's a good point.
I'm going to put this up here,

1210
01:02:22,730 --> 01:02:24,890
Jim, Just put it up here and
probably actually mentioned it

1211
01:02:24,890 --> 01:02:27,090
today.
This was something their sports

1212
01:02:27,090 --> 01:02:30,650
science individual mentioned,
that going to this would be

1213
01:02:30,650 --> 01:02:32,650
better.
And I think again, y'all went

1214
01:02:32,650 --> 01:02:34,850
through that stuff.
Three in one.

1215
01:02:35,050 --> 01:02:37,850
I'm sure y'all you get to a
limit at a certain point where

1216
01:02:37,850 --> 01:02:41,330
it's just like I can't do
anymore or it's Brian y'all

1217
01:02:41,370 --> 01:02:43,410
y'all play again.
Y'all are on the lines.

1218
01:02:43,650 --> 01:02:47,810
I'm losing technique now.
I'm losing my technique so.

1219
01:02:49,930 --> 01:02:53,210
I mean, I I my fall camp was
three days for the first two

1220
01:02:53,210 --> 01:02:56,380
weeks, so.
Yeah, you know, even like my

1221
01:02:56,380 --> 01:03:00,580
son's 13 and watching him, he's
playing football this year, He's

1222
01:03:00,580 --> 01:03:02,820
in 8th grade.
So even watching how they

1223
01:03:02,820 --> 01:03:05,980
practice compared to how we
practice coming up and things

1224
01:03:05,980 --> 01:03:09,100
like that is much different.
I see you, Dwight, thank you for

1225
01:03:09,100 --> 01:03:11,180
your comment, man.
We're going, we'll see you next

1226
01:03:11,180 --> 01:03:12,220
week.
We're going to get your

1227
01:03:12,220 --> 01:03:13,740
perspective on this stuff as
well.

1228
01:03:13,740 --> 01:03:16,860
But even somebody like Dwight
could come on and talk about how

1229
01:03:18,260 --> 01:03:21,700
I think he he, he put a tweet up
a little bit talking about two

1230
01:03:21,700 --> 01:03:24,670
of the days or.
Somebody asked them, could they

1231
01:03:24,670 --> 01:03:26,630
take the helmet off or something
crazy like that.

1232
01:03:26,630 --> 01:03:29,470
Like, you know, at my son's
practice, they were running

1233
01:03:29,470 --> 01:03:32,990
routes with the helmets off.
You know, like when I was coming

1234
01:03:32,990 --> 01:03:34,630
up, you didn't take your helmet
off when you took.

1235
01:03:34,630 --> 01:03:37,270
When you stepped on the field.
It was just different things.

1236
01:03:37,270 --> 01:03:38,830
And the coach said I'm trying to
keep them cooler.

1237
01:03:39,190 --> 01:03:43,150
You know, you got so many people
like Sheldon that pay attention

1238
01:03:43,150 --> 01:03:46,470
to analytics and they get paid a
lot of money to make sure people

1239
01:03:46,470 --> 01:03:48,590
don't get hurt.
I guess one parent, they asked

1240
01:03:48,590 --> 01:03:51,830
me, have you seen the caller
that makes some kind of caller

1241
01:03:51,830 --> 01:03:55,100
that's supposed to help?
With you not getting concussions

1242
01:03:55,100 --> 01:03:57,700
or something, I I don't know.
I haven't seen it.

1243
01:03:58,020 --> 01:04:01,980
But I'm just saying there's so
much stuff out there that, yeah,

1244
01:04:01,980 --> 01:04:03,380
of course we're going to see
stuff different.

1245
01:04:03,380 --> 01:04:05,060
And that's kind of why I say it
on my point.

1246
01:04:05,340 --> 01:04:07,020
It's just the unknown, you know
what I'm saying?

1247
01:04:07,020 --> 01:04:08,700
I haven't.
I've never seen it done that

1248
01:04:08,700 --> 01:04:09,340
way.
So I don't.

1249
01:04:09,340 --> 01:04:11,780
I ain't going to say I love it
because I don't know you.

1250
01:04:12,100 --> 01:04:15,420
Bring it back to cowboy collars.
It ain't a cowboy collar,

1251
01:04:15,420 --> 01:04:16,420
though.
It's not that.

1252
01:04:16,420 --> 01:04:20,060
It's it's something that looks
kind of like a Have you ever

1253
01:04:20,060 --> 01:04:22,460
seen somebody put on the
earphones to go around the net?

1254
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:24,840
Yeah, yeah.
So the earphones that go around

1255
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:27,320
your neck, it looks like that.
It's a Heinz device now.

1256
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:30,360
I don't.
I'm gonna, I'm gonna look it up

1257
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:34,000
and I'm gonna, I'm gonna put
y'all in the chat you search it

1258
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:35,920
because I'm gonna ask y'all
another thing I liked about it

1259
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:39,280
and I wonder if this what did to
it, Prime mentioned.

1260
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:44,520
I don't know about that if
somebody more educated.

1261
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:47,160
You it's it's the skelly helmets
that we just actually have them

1262
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:50,400
that look like they look good.
They they look like our helmets,

1263
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:52,500
just like.
On top of it, instead of the

1264
01:04:52,660 --> 01:04:55,700
more just, you know the rough
padded ones that a lot of other

1265
01:04:55,700 --> 01:04:58,700
places have.
I'm gonna throw gems off here.

1266
01:04:58,700 --> 01:05:01,100
I'm gonna put the whites up.
Yeah, as long as we're more

1267
01:05:01,100 --> 01:05:03,220
mentally tough during the games,
I have no issue with it.

1268
01:05:03,540 --> 01:05:06,540
The other reason I like this,
and I'm wondering if this fit

1269
01:05:06,540 --> 01:05:11,420
into that about the schedule was
Prime mentioned they're actually

1270
01:05:11,420 --> 01:05:16,500
going to do a full game week
before they do a full game week

1271
01:05:16,500 --> 01:05:19,460
with ODU.
And I'm wondering if again, we

1272
01:05:19,460 --> 01:05:22,020
know there are certain rules
with the NCAA of how much you

1273
01:05:22,020 --> 01:05:24,460
can practice.
And I'm wondering by chopping it

1274
01:05:24,460 --> 01:05:28,740
up like this, by giving these
guys probably 5 days off, going

1275
01:05:28,780 --> 01:05:33,380
up to that last week Okay when
we get to the 20th, you know

1276
01:05:33,380 --> 01:05:36,820
we're able to do because when we
spread our days we can go a full

1277
01:05:36,820 --> 01:05:39,500
week, we can do our normal
practice routines.

1278
01:05:39,580 --> 01:05:42,700
We can go through everything.
We can go to the Roanoke, the

1279
01:05:42,700 --> 01:05:45,980
Hotel Roanoke on Friday night
and almost have like that full

1280
01:05:45,980 --> 01:05:48,270
game week where they're really
focus.

1281
01:05:48,590 --> 01:05:51,190
This is what we're going to do.
Here's a practice version.

1282
01:05:52,070 --> 01:05:56,270
I wonder if that had to do
something with it and if anybody

1283
01:05:56,270 --> 01:05:58,950
knows the exact limitation.
I know there's a limitation

1284
01:05:58,950 --> 01:06:01,350
number of practices and days off
you've got to have.

1285
01:06:01,590 --> 01:06:07,470
I wonder if that was another
reason behind it, because for

1286
01:06:07,470 --> 01:06:09,590
anybody it's it's like prepping
for something.

1287
01:06:09,950 --> 01:06:13,790
You get a chance to do a run
through and it actually doesn't

1288
01:06:13,790 --> 01:06:16,080
count.
It's going to help because

1289
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:18,160
you're going to be mentally
ready to be like, oh, I screwed

1290
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:20,880
that up last week during this
portion of practice, Not

1291
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:24,280
screwing that up this week.
All right, couple other things.

1292
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:27,240
And this is offensive line we're
not going to talk about on the

1293
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:31,040
depth chart.
But if you heard Clements talk,

1294
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:33,840
first of all Clements is just
funny to listen to.

1295
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:36,280
Just the way you talked with
this South Carolina accident,

1296
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:40,160
talking about chaplain and
little more just literally going

1297
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:43,320
out there and giving everything
every day.

1298
01:06:44,430 --> 01:06:46,590
He's like, he's like, dude,
they're they're, he literally

1299
01:06:46,590 --> 01:06:47,710
said.
He's like, they're going out

1300
01:06:47,710 --> 01:06:49,510
there like this is their last
day they're ever going to play

1301
01:06:49,510 --> 01:06:53,150
football, which I love to hear,
especially from two young guys.

1302
01:06:54,910 --> 01:06:57,950
Yeah, I mean it's it's it's big
that that Parker's kind of

1303
01:06:57,950 --> 01:06:59,790
taking more of a leadership role
this year.

1304
01:07:00,950 --> 01:07:04,110
You know when we had Kayden on,
he talked a little bit about it

1305
01:07:04,110 --> 01:07:06,390
too.
So those two are going to be the

1306
01:07:06,390 --> 01:07:08,270
de facto leaders on that unit
this year.

1307
01:07:08,270 --> 01:07:11,230
So it's going to be big for him
to, to take on the leadership

1308
01:07:11,230 --> 01:07:14,630
role and I like that he's.
When he's he's got the spotlight

1309
01:07:14,630 --> 01:07:16,470
he's highlighted other guys.
I like that.

1310
01:07:16,470 --> 01:07:19,630
I like that that that that's a
that's a good quality of an

1311
01:07:19,630 --> 01:07:22,830
offensive live right there.
When you get the spotlight

1312
01:07:22,830 --> 01:07:24,990
you're you're highlighting the
other guys around you so that

1313
01:07:24,990 --> 01:07:29,910
that that's big to me and I love
hearing it about that chaplain

1314
01:07:29,910 --> 01:07:32,430
and more because that's we're
going to need those two to step

1315
01:07:32,430 --> 01:07:34,150
up and hold down that left side
of the line.

1316
01:07:34,750 --> 01:07:37,750
I mean, especially with some of
the news we got, you know?

1317
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:41,240
A little bit of a little bit
ago, you know about Jesse

1318
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:44,480
Hanson, so we got less depth on
that offensive line.

1319
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:47,440
So it's going to be big.
Those guys play a big role this

1320
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:48,720
year.
Was that chaplain?

1321
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:52,280
Was that chaplain going against
Powell and that that was, yeah,

1322
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:53,480
that spin.
Move was pretty.

1323
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:56,360
Thick Man Chaplain, You better
keep going out there and

1324
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:59,520
attacking every day you see
somebody like that line up

1325
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:01,800
across from me.
Jesus Christ, but how many of

1326
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:02,640
those?
Spin move.

1327
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:03,840
You got to drive through it,
man.

1328
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:05,400
You can't sit back on the spin
move.

1329
01:08:06,980 --> 01:08:10,900
You got absolutely smoked there.
Anything on the offensive line

1330
01:08:10,940 --> 01:08:12,940
Shelton that you see in here
and?

1331
01:08:14,220 --> 01:08:16,100
Yeah, I mean, I was just kind of
look at the numbers.

1332
01:08:16,100 --> 01:08:18,939
You know, Hanson, surprisingly
enough, not a guy that people

1333
01:08:18,939 --> 01:08:21,340
really associate as being like a
stalwart at the offensive line.

1334
01:08:21,660 --> 01:08:23,979
He was actually Tech's highest
graded offensive lineman last

1335
01:08:23,979 --> 01:08:26,620
year, according to PFF.
Now it was about league average.

1336
01:08:26,620 --> 01:08:28,300
So it wasn't, you know, too big
of a thing.

1337
01:08:28,740 --> 01:08:30,580
But losing him definitely hurts
the depth.

1338
01:08:31,859 --> 01:08:34,660
And you got Janzie gone as well.
Jordan too, I feel like.

1339
01:08:34,660 --> 01:08:37,330
Obviously with Parker.
We didn't know that a time, but

1340
01:08:37,330 --> 01:08:41,010
obviously he was injured last
year, couldn't really lift and

1341
01:08:41,010 --> 01:08:43,529
obviously that kind of had a
huge, huge impact on his play.

1342
01:08:44,090 --> 01:08:48,130
So I think he's going to have a
positive improvement this year.

1343
01:08:48,410 --> 01:08:50,729
Same with more those two guys,
they were so good as freshmen

1344
01:08:50,729 --> 01:08:52,290
but just fell off a Cliff last
year.

1345
01:08:52,770 --> 01:08:55,370
I think he'll get back to it.
I think when you really need

1346
01:08:55,370 --> 01:08:56,770
Parker.
Parker to me is the most

1347
01:08:56,770 --> 01:08:59,090
important player in this, on
this oh line, especially because

1348
01:08:59,090 --> 01:09:00,890
of the lack of, you know,
overall tackle depth.

1349
01:09:00,890 --> 01:09:03,130
So it's going to, it's going to
be a little bit thin, but.

1350
01:09:03,899 --> 01:09:08,340
I I feel better about the the,
the right side than I do now.

1351
01:09:08,340 --> 01:09:10,460
I did about last last year's
team for sure.

1352
01:09:11,260 --> 01:09:13,420
Nice nice.
And let's talk about some other

1353
01:09:13,420 --> 01:09:16,220
depth stuff we're hearing.
You know we saw we'll shout him

1354
01:09:16,220 --> 01:09:18,859
out.
David Cunningham going out there

1355
01:09:18,859 --> 01:09:22,220
busting it at practice trying to
put depth charge together and

1356
01:09:22,220 --> 01:09:26,380
you know it's it's it's by law
Tally knows this tally had to

1357
01:09:26,380 --> 01:09:29,580
talk to Toast Frye about it by
law got called quarterback.

1358
01:09:29,580 --> 01:09:33,420
It's cliche, I know, but it's
been told it's been said.

1359
01:09:33,950 --> 01:09:37,149
Wells and drones each having
times with the ones rotating

1360
01:09:37,149 --> 01:09:39,990
days effectively.
But here's what I'll ask you

1361
01:09:40,870 --> 01:09:44,870
August 22nd, boys, and we'll
start with Sheldon.

1362
01:09:45,470 --> 01:09:49,270
August 22nd, that bonus week.
That week we're going to go into

1363
01:09:49,870 --> 01:09:52,870
prepping.
We'll pronounce the starter on

1364
01:09:52,870 --> 01:09:55,150
the 22nd because there will be a
media day that day.

1365
01:09:56,830 --> 01:09:59,390
I think so.
I mean, I think he, I think he

1366
01:09:59,390 --> 01:10:01,230
did it.
He definitely did it earlier

1367
01:10:01,230 --> 01:10:05,840
than Fuente did.
Last year it's my understanding.

1368
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:10,280
So yeah, I think he's because I
know with with like Fuente was

1369
01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:13,000
kind of like you know he he went
to wait to the absolute last

1370
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:15,400
possible minute and then when he
did make the announcement it was

1371
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:18,360
like you know in a hush tone
it's like OK let's just move on.

1372
01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:21,600
I think prize taking a little
bit more kind of making the

1373
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:23,680
announcement having to be like
OK this is our guy.

1374
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:26,440
So yeah, I would say that media
conference is probably going to

1375
01:10:26,440 --> 01:10:30,000
be the time that he does it all
right He he says 22nd we're

1376
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:34,280
announced, Sally.
I don't know, man.

1377
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:36,680
I I was kind of on the fence
about it when we talked about

1378
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:40,640
it.
I said I could see it kind of

1379
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:44,920
lingering on just to kind of
throw some, we don't know who's

1380
01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:48,600
up on that first game and then
giving Purdue a little bit less

1381
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:51,960
to know of who's going to do it.
But I think Prior kind of what

1382
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:54,480
Sheldon said though, man, I mean
with us knowing Prior we've

1383
01:10:54,480 --> 01:10:59,080
talked to him, I feel like he is
too candid of a guy to hold

1384
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:01,440
something like that and that's
one of the things that the fan

1385
01:11:01,440 --> 01:11:03,520
base like.
Longs for.

1386
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:06,520
So yeah, I think he's going to
announce somebody about that

1387
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:09,960
time.
I think it's going to depend,

1388
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:14,640
and I think it's going to depend
on the the, the trend, because I

1389
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:17,840
think we know that from a grass
of the offense perspective.

1390
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:19,920
Wells is a head of drones at
this point.

1391
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:21,720
He was in the spring.
I think he still is at this

1392
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:26,640
point.
Is he seeing enough practice to

1393
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:30,360
practice with drones picking
things up?

1394
01:11:31,530 --> 01:11:35,490
Where he's not quite ready by
August 22nd, That's my only

1395
01:11:35,490 --> 01:11:38,210
question.
I could see him playing some

1396
01:11:38,210 --> 01:11:41,690
gamesmanship with Purdue and
ODU, but when we really go back

1397
01:11:41,690 --> 01:11:45,770
and look at it, there's not a
lot of tape out there on drones

1398
01:11:46,090 --> 01:11:51,530
that's really going to, you
know, waste hours of ODU and and

1399
01:11:51,530 --> 01:11:55,090
Purdue's coaches spending time
bringing down tape.

1400
01:11:55,090 --> 01:11:58,210
There's not enough out there for
them to really justify that, and

1401
01:11:58,210 --> 01:12:00,890
any smart coach is already going
to have a scout team.

1402
01:12:02,750 --> 01:12:05,030
Quarterback that can that can
run and do the things that

1403
01:12:05,030 --> 01:12:07,390
drones is at least running a
handful of plays in that

1404
01:12:07,390 --> 01:12:09,990
practice anyway.
So I don't think there's any

1405
01:12:09,990 --> 01:12:12,350
games with ship there.
But like I said, my question is

1406
01:12:12,350 --> 01:12:15,830
how is the battle trending?
Is it starting to trend where

1407
01:12:16,350 --> 01:12:18,790
you know it's ratcheting up
every week in terms of the grass

1408
01:12:18,790 --> 01:12:20,870
of the offensive?
If there is, you know you might

1409
01:12:20,870 --> 01:12:25,950
give one last week to to let Let
drones prove himself to see if

1410
01:12:25,950 --> 01:12:28,830
he can take that role.
If if he's not making that

1411
01:12:28,830 --> 01:12:31,150
progress, then I think you go
ahead and name it for Wells at

1412
01:12:31,150 --> 01:12:35,630
that point, Yeah, I think, I
think you're y'all are right.

1413
01:12:36,150 --> 01:12:38,550
I think it's announced that
week, but I think there's going

1414
01:12:38,550 --> 01:12:40,910
to be a caveat in it regardless
who it is.

1415
01:12:41,310 --> 01:12:44,590
I think if it is Grant Wells,
there's going to be the caveat

1416
01:12:44,590 --> 01:12:48,150
of we have to take advantage of
Chiron drones, athleticism, his

1417
01:12:48,150 --> 01:12:50,350
ability to run the ball, he's
going to be used.

1418
01:12:51,110 --> 01:12:53,880
If it's drones.
We're going to be dependent on

1419
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:57,160
Grant to be helping Kyron.
We got to depend on him to be

1420
01:12:57,160 --> 01:13:00,640
ready if something happens to go
in and play immediately.

1421
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:04,480
So he's on caveat where he's not
basically burying like that's

1422
01:13:04,480 --> 01:13:06,520
our guy.
I don't care what happens one

1423
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:10,480
way or the other but I think it
has to be that week because I

1424
01:13:10,480 --> 01:13:15,000
think what that does it puts a
firm stamp on who we are as 18.

1425
01:13:15,440 --> 01:13:20,290
And I feel like talking with
Brent pride like we have he's

1426
01:13:20,290 --> 01:13:23,290
that sort of person he wants to
I'm going to tell the team and

1427
01:13:23,850 --> 01:13:26,210
I'm going to tell him who it is
and I'll go out here and tell

1428
01:13:26,210 --> 01:13:30,530
the public and we're going to be
strong when I go forward like

1429
01:13:30,530 --> 01:13:34,810
that.
So I I feel like we do know but

1430
01:13:34,810 --> 01:13:38,250
who knows he might throw some
curveball let's talk D line and

1431
01:13:38,330 --> 01:13:40,970
and if anybody was actually
shocked y'all tell me pal.

1432
01:13:40,970 --> 01:13:44,170
Ryland already on the ones.
Just got here this summer.

1433
01:13:44,170 --> 01:13:46,840
Anybody shot?
Nah, Nah.

1434
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:49,760
If you're shocked, then y'all
didn't see the tape.

1435
01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:53,320
But let let's talk this.
Not so Again, We've seen him on

1436
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:56,480
tech, we've seen his stats, we
know what he is.

1437
01:13:57,080 --> 01:14:03,880
But my feeling on the defensive
line room in general is to go

1438
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:06,800
from average to above average,
because I do think it was an

1439
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:09,360
average line last year.
With the exception of stack

1440
01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:13,720
numbers, everything else you
know good at creating negative

1441
01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:15,970
plays in the run game.
What's up I?

1442
01:14:16,130 --> 01:14:19,130
Was going to say sack numbers in
the Pit game, in the pit game.

1443
01:14:19,130 --> 01:14:20,650
That's it.
That's it.

1444
01:14:21,130 --> 01:14:23,250
But but my fields, two players
are key.

1445
01:14:24,450 --> 01:14:27,610
I think Burgos is key.
I love to hear him probably talk

1446
01:14:27,610 --> 01:14:31,890
about him today and I think
Pain's key because if to me if

1447
01:14:31,890 --> 01:14:36,410
those two guys click, you've not
only got your 4th end, you've

1448
01:14:36,410 --> 01:14:39,850
also got that guy that can go
likely inside out as needed.

1449
01:14:39,850 --> 01:14:42,730
What y'all think?
Yeah, we talk about pain.

1450
01:14:42,730 --> 01:14:45,810
Pain was in that clip as well.
And to talk about him coming

1451
01:14:45,810 --> 01:14:50,010
back from a injury, you know, I
know it's not, you know, full,

1452
01:14:50,010 --> 01:14:54,250
full game or anything like that.
But to see how he moves and it's

1453
01:14:54,250 --> 01:14:57,250
good to see, you know, coming
off of an injury to have another

1454
01:14:57,250 --> 01:14:58,970
guy like that, to throw in depth
wise.

1455
01:14:59,330 --> 01:15:05,250
And again, we've got a lot of
guys that can move in our bead,

1456
01:15:05,610 --> 01:15:07,980
you know?
We haven't seen that a lot on

1457
01:15:07,980 --> 01:15:10,300
our lines.
We're usually going after the

1458
01:15:10,300 --> 01:15:12,980
small twitch, you know, twitchy
guys.

1459
01:15:12,980 --> 01:15:17,860
But when you talk about Burgos
or you talk about Roland Powell,

1460
01:15:18,260 --> 01:15:20,820
these guys are big and physical
and they can move.

1461
01:15:20,820 --> 01:15:23,780
So I think we'll take a step in
the defensive line.

1462
01:15:23,780 --> 01:15:26,860
I think we have an opportunity
to, you know, of course football

1463
01:15:26,860 --> 01:15:29,780
you could have injuries, we
don't speak that, but I think

1464
01:15:29,780 --> 01:15:33,020
we'll take a step forward just
with with some of the some of

1465
01:15:33,020 --> 01:15:36,660
the guys that we're plugging in.
Yeah, I mean processed today he

1466
01:15:36,660 --> 01:15:41,980
talked about Burgos being a
motor guy, big motor guy and you

1467
01:15:41,980 --> 01:15:43,620
already got a guy that's that
big.

1468
01:15:44,180 --> 01:15:47,140
If you say he's got a motor, I
mean that that's going to be

1469
01:15:47,140 --> 01:15:50,340
somebody that's going to outwork
everybody around him seeing him.

1470
01:15:50,660 --> 01:15:53,620
Yes, they they said he could
push for a starting spot in in

1471
01:15:53,620 --> 01:15:56,180
the in the press conference
today which you know.

1472
01:15:57,390 --> 01:16:01,310
Worked my ears up a little bit
but I was just hoping for Burgos

1473
01:16:01,310 --> 01:16:04,750
to be pushing for a fourth or
fifth spot on the on the DN

1474
01:16:04,750 --> 01:16:06,550
position.
If he's doing more than that

1475
01:16:07,550 --> 01:16:09,790
then we then we we cook them
with something fellas.

1476
01:16:10,910 --> 01:16:13,310
Talking about pain too.
I mean, we've seen flashes he

1477
01:16:13,310 --> 01:16:16,590
got brought up in the presser
last week and this week as being

1478
01:16:16,590 --> 01:16:19,110
somebody that's working, working
really good, making some

1479
01:16:19,110 --> 01:16:22,910
progress, pushing some guys.
You know, if he can be that

1480
01:16:22,910 --> 01:16:25,390
fourth guy in the rotation,
that's only leveling up the

1481
01:16:25,390 --> 01:16:30,750
interior of that line as well.
And with pain being kind of a a

1482
01:16:30,750 --> 01:16:34,470
tweener there, you could get him
in at certain spots on on

1483
01:16:34,470 --> 01:16:36,510
rundown, certain spots on
passing down.

1484
01:16:36,510 --> 01:16:38,670
So he gives a little bit of
versatility across the line as

1485
01:16:38,670 --> 01:16:42,830
well.
Anything on the D line room,

1486
01:16:42,830 --> 01:16:46,310
Shelton?
I like having Kendricks back and

1487
01:16:46,310 --> 01:16:48,150
Paul a lot.
They were probably.

1488
01:16:48,730 --> 01:16:51,850
Our two best lineman last year
to look at stuff like pass rush

1489
01:16:51,850 --> 01:16:56,570
win rates, Nelson is a guy that
is good to have back, but he's

1490
01:16:56,570 --> 01:16:59,970
got to improve a lot and CJ
McCray also in there as well.

1491
01:16:59,970 --> 01:17:04,090
So in terms of pass rush, I
think it's a pretty good setup.

1492
01:17:04,130 --> 01:17:07,130
I mean I know the run defense
was kind of hit or miss, but

1493
01:17:08,090 --> 01:17:10,290
we've got some guys that can
that can get to the QB, I think

1494
01:17:11,210 --> 01:17:14,870
and I think that's gonna be the
key this year because you know

1495
01:17:14,870 --> 01:17:18,190
we were talking the other day.
What was did you did you find

1496
01:17:18,190 --> 01:17:20,190
that the Havoc stat you were
trying to find look up?

1497
01:17:21,150 --> 01:17:22,590
No, I didn't have the Havoc
stat.

1498
01:17:23,390 --> 01:17:24,470
Yeah, I didn't have the Havoc
set.

1499
01:17:24,470 --> 01:17:26,470
I just got the SAC right.
I mean we were bottom 30 in

1500
01:17:26,470 --> 01:17:28,550
terms of SAC, right.
And I think in terms of you know

1501
01:17:28,550 --> 01:17:32,190
preventing explosive plays,
obviously the the run defense

1502
01:17:32,190 --> 01:17:34,470
was was terrible in terms of
explosive plays.

1503
01:17:35,550 --> 01:17:37,710
So yeah, that was, that was
probably the biggest thing that

1504
01:17:37,710 --> 01:17:41,550
I noticed looking at the stats.
So again it's it's and this was

1505
01:17:41,550 --> 01:17:44,230
a solid defense last year was a
solid defensive line.

1506
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:49,440
It wasn't spectacular and I
think could and that's why we

1507
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:51,560
I'll go back to the gentleman we
first started with Powell.

1508
01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:56,160
Ryland is that guy that can make
it spectacular because y'all

1509
01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:58,600
seen it.
If you have an edge guy, the

1510
01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:02,960
attention shifts every
everything about that offensive

1511
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:05,560
setup Tally and Brian from both
playing there.

1512
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:08,440
When you have that guy that can
come off the edge and can fly

1513
01:18:08,440 --> 01:18:12,000
and condemn every single person
is like, where is he?

1514
01:18:12,420 --> 01:18:14,740
Yeah, where is he?
Quarterbacks looking for him,

1515
01:18:15,300 --> 01:18:17,940
tackles trying to call him out,
guards trying to know where do I

1516
01:18:17,940 --> 01:18:20,980
push, where do I kick tight in
Tally, I'm sure there were times

1517
01:18:20,980 --> 01:18:23,180
you played edge guys.
You're like, I don't really want

1518
01:18:23,180 --> 01:18:25,580
to go against him.
Yeah, man, it's it all comes

1519
01:18:25,580 --> 01:18:28,460
down to like you.
Like if you have the game plan

1520
01:18:28,460 --> 01:18:33,220
for somebody on a defensive line
changes the whole game plan that

1521
01:18:33,220 --> 01:18:35,180
your office has, you know what
I'm saying?

1522
01:18:35,180 --> 01:18:38,180
If you have a defensive line, I
mean, and then this year is

1523
01:18:38,180 --> 01:18:40,380
going to be big for JC because
you have so many.

1524
01:18:40,900 --> 01:18:43,780
JC haters that are out there,
you know, they said he couldn't

1525
01:18:43,780 --> 01:18:45,820
recruit.
You know, he starts getting a

1526
01:18:45,820 --> 01:18:48,700
couple of recruits in and then
they said, well, he can't coach.

1527
01:18:48,740 --> 01:18:50,820
So we're going to have to see,
can he coach?

1528
01:18:50,820 --> 01:18:56,060
You know, like, I think J C's
fine, but I'm just saying for

1529
01:18:56,500 --> 01:18:59,420
the Virginia Tech landscape, you
know, this is a big year for the

1530
01:18:59,420 --> 01:19:04,100
defensive line and then shifts
you to another point, our

1531
01:19:04,100 --> 01:19:06,500
cornerbacks like your defensive
line.

1532
01:19:06,980 --> 01:19:10,580
Is a direct reflection of what
you're They can't guard forever.

1533
01:19:10,660 --> 01:19:12,820
You know what I'm saying?
It was like a lot of times when

1534
01:19:12,820 --> 01:19:15,740
we talked about Delaine last
year, him being a freshman

1535
01:19:15,740 --> 01:19:19,380
tossed in the in the games that
he may or may not have been

1536
01:19:19,380 --> 01:19:22,500
ready for.
It was it's tough to cover a

1537
01:19:22,500 --> 01:19:24,940
long time like that.
Especially when you got a

1538
01:19:24,940 --> 01:19:27,060
quarterback that's running
around and they're breaking off

1539
01:19:27,060 --> 01:19:30,220
routes and things like that.
Wasn't that he just, you know,

1540
01:19:30,260 --> 01:19:32,060
even got beat.
It's just sometimes you.

1541
01:19:32,060 --> 01:19:34,220
Hell, you don't you.
You can have perfect coverage

1542
01:19:34,220 --> 01:19:37,010
until that last two seconds.
And you're hoping that your

1543
01:19:37,010 --> 01:19:40,330
lineman get to them and cause
some kind of chaos.

1544
01:19:40,490 --> 01:19:44,370
Had we weren't doing that.
So I feel like if we are, if

1545
01:19:44,370 --> 01:19:46,890
we're able to, if we can't get
to the quarterback, if we can

1546
01:19:46,890 --> 01:19:49,490
pressure them enough where they
have to throw some air at

1547
01:19:49,490 --> 01:19:52,410
throws, then our defensive backs
out, we have a defensive

1548
01:19:52,410 --> 01:19:55,250
backfield that can cause some
chaos as well.

1549
01:19:55,650 --> 01:20:01,130
So if that defensive line is 2
steps better than last year,

1550
01:20:01,450 --> 01:20:03,850
then I think our defense has got
some cooking.

1551
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:07,520
Yeah, in that cornerback room,
the first three are good.

1552
01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:10,200
You got two guys who were
previous freshmen, Allamerican,

1553
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:12,800
Actually, I think Canteen was a
freshman Allamerican too, wasn't

1554
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:14,640
he?
I think you're right.

1555
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:17,080
I think he was a freshman.
But I'm pretty positive.

1556
01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:18,640
Yeah, pretty positive.
He was.

1557
01:20:19,440 --> 01:20:22,120
And so those guys are locked.
It's all about the freshman.

1558
01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:25,400
Because when I looked at DC's
depth chart and I started

1559
01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:28,840
reading cornerbacks, it's like
Braylon Johnson, That freshman

1560
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:31,520
just got there.
Dante Lovett, he just got there.

1561
01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:34,440
And then coach mentioned
Christian earlier today it's

1562
01:20:34,440 --> 01:20:37,480
like and he's in prize.
I love the again, it's the

1563
01:20:37,480 --> 01:20:39,640
candidates.
These guys are going to play.

1564
01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:44,040
One of these guys is going to
play a lot this year and it's

1565
01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:47,240
that whole he mentioned he's
like it's it's the constant

1566
01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:49,600
developing.
Developing right.

1567
01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:53,200
You know growing pains through
the first four games, but if you

1568
01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:56,480
start getting better games,
five, 6-7 and eight, you're

1569
01:20:56,480 --> 01:20:58,840
going to the games going to slow
down, you're going to be better.

1570
01:21:00,350 --> 01:21:01,790
We did.
I don't want to cut you off,

1571
01:21:01,790 --> 01:21:03,510
Curtis, but I want to play this
right quick.

1572
01:21:04,230 --> 01:21:06,710
Last year we did a space after
the ODU game.

1573
01:21:06,710 --> 01:21:08,950
I was livid.
I was on the pledge.

1574
01:21:08,950 --> 01:21:10,630
No way.
Everybody was.

1575
01:21:12,950 --> 01:21:12,230
Dwight came on and talked to.
It was over, you know?

1576
01:21:12,350 --> 01:21:15,670
Did.
You Dwight came on, but you know

1577
01:21:15,990 --> 01:21:19,430
besides the white, he called
some backup and LJ came on as

1578
01:21:19,430 --> 01:21:23,910
well and he said, you know,
somebody was on there and said,

1579
01:21:23,910 --> 01:21:26,750
you know Gene tech's not going
to recruit Well, you just lost

1580
01:21:26,750 --> 01:21:29,750
the ODU you have, you know.
Recruits watching it, blah,

1581
01:21:29,750 --> 01:21:32,190
blah, blah.
And LJ said this is what you

1582
01:21:32,190 --> 01:21:35,230
have to do as a coach.
I'm, I'm paraphrasing, this is

1583
01:21:35,230 --> 01:21:37,230
what you have to do as a coach.
You have to sell that.

1584
01:21:37,510 --> 01:21:41,510
You know, you have to say we
lost a couple of games because

1585
01:21:41,510 --> 01:21:44,030
when we talked earlier we talked
about games that we lost about

1586
01:21:44,030 --> 01:21:46,590
one or two points.
So one or we didn't have enough

1587
01:21:46,590 --> 01:21:48,430
depth.
But now you brought in some

1588
01:21:48,430 --> 01:21:52,270
players and and I'm sure Pride
went to him and talked to him

1589
01:21:52,270 --> 01:21:57,470
and said hey, if we get you here
we can use you immediately, so.

1590
01:21:57,860 --> 01:22:00,860
You want to see some of these
players get on the field and

1591
01:22:00,860 --> 01:22:04,380
produce immediately because
that's just going to be another

1592
01:22:04,380 --> 01:22:07,660
good selling point to the next
proper recruits.

1593
01:22:08,260 --> 01:22:10,620
Even the recruits that they just
brought in or they're bringing

1594
01:22:10,620 --> 01:22:14,700
in for the 2024 class, you know,
that's that's what they're

1595
01:22:14,700 --> 01:22:15,940
saying.
Hey, I know I can go here and

1596
01:22:15,940 --> 01:22:17,420
play.
Hey, I know that they're

1597
01:22:17,420 --> 01:22:19,020
building something.
I can get in here and play.

1598
01:22:19,020 --> 01:22:23,300
So when I seen those freshman's
names on there, you know, some

1599
01:22:23,300 --> 01:22:24,940
people get a little nervous.
But I'm like, hell.

1600
01:22:24,940 --> 01:22:26,380
Shit, we ain't got nobody in
front of them.

1601
01:22:26,820 --> 01:22:28,620
Kelly had a.
Let's talk.

1602
01:22:28,700 --> 01:22:31,380
Let's talk about this real
quick, though, because we talked

1603
01:22:31,380 --> 01:22:34,780
a ton about how much the wide
receiver room has flipped.

1604
01:22:35,300 --> 01:22:38,980
But when we look at the first
six in this cornerback room, one

1605
01:22:38,980 --> 01:22:41,700
of them was in the two deep at
the start of last season.

1606
01:22:41,820 --> 01:22:46,260
That's true.
Only one, the cornerback room

1607
01:22:46,260 --> 01:22:48,860
has completely flipped.
It has.

1608
01:22:49,500 --> 01:22:52,980
We had Bria Murray in our in our
coffee room.

1609
01:22:53,960 --> 01:22:57,160
No disrespect, but I don't keep
my ass.

1610
01:22:57,160 --> 01:23:02,120
If I had this, we had Brianne
Murray in that playing

1611
01:23:02,200 --> 01:23:05,680
significant steps, man.
I mean come on.

1612
01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:09,600
The thing is I think with Lovett
all three and and to me always

1613
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:13,800
Lean Braylon because of who Dad
and and and and that's he's

1614
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:15,640
going to have that mark on who
dad is.

1615
01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:20,240
Where he played I I don't until
we see it.

1616
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:24,840
But it's that feeling of Braylon
Johnson might be the 4th one.

1617
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:29,120
I mean it's just it's I know
it's lineage and I know it's it

1618
01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:33,120
could be that nostalgia where
you want the guy who was here

1619
01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:37,120
when it originated and his son
to basically take that torch and

1620
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:39,480
kind of replan it and say we're
back to where we were.

1621
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:43,000
But I'm pretty sure he started
all four years at Highland

1622
01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:45,120
Springs.
They want three state titles.

1623
01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:48,760
You know, he's got it up here
because his dad was that type of

1624
01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:50,560
player.
You know it's up here.

1625
01:23:51,500 --> 01:23:54,700
So the question is, which of
these, which of the which of the

1626
01:23:54,700 --> 01:23:59,980
three plays a ton, which gets a
red shirt and which is getting

1627
01:23:59,980 --> 01:24:05,300
significant minutes on special
teams and to give blows probably

1628
01:24:05,300 --> 01:24:08,540
every fifth series to the upper
guys when needed?

1629
01:24:09,740 --> 01:24:11,580
It's hard.
It's hard to say, man, because a

1630
01:24:11,580 --> 01:24:15,980
lot of them are are so.
I guess they're so similar as

1631
01:24:15,980 --> 01:24:19,620
far as body sizes.
They are and and and builds and

1632
01:24:19,620 --> 01:24:22,780
things like that, but they
aren't under built right all

1633
01:24:22,780 --> 01:24:25,340
about 180 a 180.
They're not under built to be.

1634
01:24:25,340 --> 01:24:28,420
Corners and and I mean, like I
said, I think I talked to y'all

1635
01:24:28,420 --> 01:24:30,420
about it.
When you talk about college

1636
01:24:30,420 --> 01:24:34,220
football, like cornerback is the
I don't want to use the word

1637
01:24:34,220 --> 01:24:35,940
easiest.
I don't want to use the word

1638
01:24:35,940 --> 01:24:39,420
easiest, but it's the it's the
most likely position for a

1639
01:24:39,420 --> 01:24:43,300
freshman to come in and be able
to contribute quickly because

1640
01:24:43,300 --> 01:24:45,000
that is.
Pretty much a lot of

1641
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:47,720
athleticism.
And those guys do a lot of work,

1642
01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:50,080
you know, and they're usually
getting some high level work,

1643
01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:53,800
even in high school as D B's
with a lot of these trainers and

1644
01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:56,000
stuff.
But you talk about quarterback,

1645
01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:59,520
quarterback's pretty tough to go
in and just be a stud lineman.

1646
01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:03,400
It's very, very rare for a
lineman to come in his freshman

1647
01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:07,600
year and have his body ready to
go and have his feet ready to go

1648
01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:09,160
and have his mind ready to go
so.

1649
01:25:10,500 --> 01:25:13,700
I wasn't really surprised at the
cornerbacks that we have are are

1650
01:25:13,700 --> 01:25:16,860
making some noise.
I'm just ready to get to it and

1651
01:25:16,860 --> 01:25:19,300
see what they can do.
I'm ready to see them in the

1652
01:25:19,300 --> 01:25:21,260
games man.
I'm ready to see them put it on,

1653
01:25:21,700 --> 01:25:24,820
but on the all once jerseys and
let's go play.

1654
01:25:25,420 --> 01:25:27,380
That's the second game.
Let's go play.

1655
01:25:28,290 --> 01:25:30,890
By the way, my first trip down
there, I've got to go to the to

1656
01:25:30,890 --> 01:25:33,650
the bookstore and get orange
shirt because the only orange

1657
01:25:33,650 --> 01:25:35,970
shirt I got is a Nike one.
Everything else in a room like

1658
01:25:35,970 --> 01:25:37,610
this.
You need orange, man.

1659
01:25:38,090 --> 01:25:40,330
I know it's the orange effect.
I got to buy one.

1660
01:25:40,330 --> 01:25:43,530
It's like guaranteed.
I have to buy one real quick.

1661
01:25:43,530 --> 01:25:46,490
So those corners have been
covering the wide receiver room,

1662
01:25:46,490 --> 01:25:50,410
which we've talked about a ton,
flipping over Jennings and

1663
01:25:50,410 --> 01:25:53,050
Layton, Felton with the ones,
but obviously rotating.

1664
01:25:53,050 --> 01:25:57,390
We saw Bosdale and Holloway and
another name that from last year

1665
01:25:57,390 --> 01:25:59,190
popped up.
I may be a little bit shocking.

1666
01:25:59,190 --> 01:26:03,110
That's Dwayne Lofton.
Sheldon, any shock, anything

1667
01:26:03,110 --> 01:26:06,590
you're hearing about any of
these guys or heard about any of

1668
01:26:06,590 --> 01:26:12,330
these guys, any of the six?
Not really, honestly.

1669
01:26:12,450 --> 01:26:14,730
I mean I think it's pretty
impressive they done kind of

1670
01:26:14,730 --> 01:26:16,730
turn that room over.
You know like we were talking

1671
01:26:16,730 --> 01:26:20,770
about we have to, I think we
have to trust coaches to some

1672
01:26:20,770 --> 01:26:23,410
degree.
Obviously when we look at Brent

1673
01:26:23,410 --> 01:26:26,450
Pride flipping over 40% of
roster because he knows that the

1674
01:26:26,450 --> 01:26:28,050
talent level last year wasn't
good enough.

1675
01:26:28,490 --> 01:26:30,690
Similarly, you can look at what
he did with the wide receiver

1676
01:26:30,690 --> 01:26:34,090
room getting in all those
handful of guys and the reason

1677
01:26:34,090 --> 01:26:35,850
for that is because they just
know that the talent level there

1678
01:26:35,850 --> 01:26:38,970
wasn't good enough last year.
So when we kind of assess you

1679
01:26:38,970 --> 01:26:41,330
know Grant Wells and how he
performed last year, obviously

1680
01:26:41,330 --> 01:26:44,290
he could have been a lot better.
The receivers did not do many

1681
01:26:44,290 --> 01:26:45,690
favors.
So I think the coach has done a

1682
01:26:45,690 --> 01:26:49,570
good job of totally revamping
that room in just one year.

1683
01:26:50,530 --> 01:26:52,690
And obviously I trust fontel
mines a lot with his player

1684
01:26:52,690 --> 01:26:55,410
evaluations and hopefully he can
get those guys coached up.

1685
01:26:55,810 --> 01:26:59,730
You know he he was talking to
podcast a while back about how.

1686
01:27:00,380 --> 01:27:02,780
You know, perimeter blocking in
his room is non negotiable.

1687
01:27:02,780 --> 01:27:06,500
Like if you want to play for
this staff you have to block,

1688
01:27:06,780 --> 01:27:08,900
which I really like to hear
because blocking to me has been

1689
01:27:08,900 --> 01:27:11,180
a big sore spot for Tech over
the past few years.

1690
01:27:12,420 --> 01:27:14,220
So hopefully you can get this
guys coached up.

1691
01:27:14,220 --> 01:27:17,100
I have a lot of faith in him and
I think, I think that's a room

1692
01:27:17,100 --> 01:27:18,340
where we're going to see a lot
of improvement.

1693
01:27:19,700 --> 01:27:21,980
Yeah, I mean he's a tight and he
knows, he knows about blocking

1694
01:27:21,980 --> 01:27:25,020
out there on the perimeter.
So he's the one of the best ones

1695
01:27:25,020 --> 01:27:28,180
that could probably get that
that group doing that at a

1696
01:27:28,180 --> 01:27:30,840
consistent level.
Whatever he's telling, man,

1697
01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:31,880
people are buying.
I'm back.

1698
01:27:32,000 --> 01:27:35,320
They are.
We've talked to Frontil and you

1699
01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:38,200
see the, you see the.
First of all, I wonder who's

1700
01:27:38,200 --> 01:27:39,800
garden?
Felton in practice.

1701
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:41,640
Like, that's a big ass dude,
man.

1702
01:27:41,720 --> 01:27:44,600
You know what I'm saying?
Like, we had wide receivers.

1703
01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:46,360
What, what?
What?

1704
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:49,720
What Coach call him today?
Avatar.

1705
01:27:49,960 --> 01:27:52,480
Avatar.
Like he's like Avatar out there.

1706
01:27:52,760 --> 01:27:55,240
What The thing is, is like I
don't think tech fans, we

1707
01:27:55,240 --> 01:27:58,720
haven't seen wide receivers.
The size that we're going to see

1708
01:27:58,720 --> 01:28:00,840
some of the wide receivers that
we're bringing in and that we

1709
01:28:00,840 --> 01:28:03,400
have and even with some of the
skill set, I know I don't want

1710
01:28:03,400 --> 01:28:05,800
to look too far ahead because
anything can happen.

1711
01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:08,840
You know, talking about the
people that we have on on on

1712
01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:11,560
campus.
But even the wide receivers that

1713
01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:15,240
they're bringing in like Makai
White just committed to Maryland

1714
01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:16,600
because we don't got space for
him.

1715
01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:19,400
You know, I ain't saying like he
was a lot to go to Virginia

1716
01:28:19,400 --> 01:28:22,440
Tech, but I'm sure we had a shot
to get him.

1717
01:28:23,470 --> 01:28:26,030
You were showing us a whole lot
of love until the last like week

1718
01:28:26,030 --> 01:28:27,870
or so when?
People can spend it how they

1719
01:28:27,870 --> 01:28:31,030
want to, but I mean we've got a
lot of wide receivers and

1720
01:28:31,310 --> 01:28:32,910
everybody knows we don't have a
lot of room.

1721
01:28:33,190 --> 01:28:37,070
So you just got, you know the
number one receiver in the in

1722
01:28:37,070 --> 01:28:39,790
the in the state of Virginia.
Then we get Chance Wiggins.

1723
01:28:39,790 --> 01:28:42,790
I don't know exactly where he
falls in another top receiver in

1724
01:28:42,790 --> 01:28:44,430
the state of Virginia that's
coming in.

1725
01:28:45,230 --> 01:28:48,030
And then you see these guys that
they have that are.

1726
01:28:48,480 --> 01:28:52,000
They saying that's the the
number one of the the first

1727
01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:55,720
team, the second team like it's
going to be a lot of competition

1728
01:28:55,720 --> 01:29:01,800
in that room and when people
talk about competition it you

1729
01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:04,280
can have competition of sorry
people and you just going to get

1730
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:06,760
the battle of the media.
You know what I'm saying like

1731
01:29:07,240 --> 01:29:10,400
this, the people that that the
the caliber that we have been

1732
01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:13,160
bringing in and what we see now
I think.

1733
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:16,080
The best players going to have
to play, the best players are

1734
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:19,280
going to rise to the top because
you got a lot of talented people

1735
01:29:19,280 --> 01:29:21,800
in that wide receiving room.
I think it's probably our

1736
01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:26,120
deepest unit right now.
Which, considering where we were

1737
01:29:26,120 --> 01:29:28,320
last year, saying something.
Yeah, it's crazy.

1738
01:29:28,520 --> 01:29:31,120
It's saying a hell of a lot.
And just in general that room

1739
01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:33,480
and we talked about the growth
of guys now and we talked about

1740
01:29:33,480 --> 01:29:36,240
Holloway coming up.
Holloway obviously going to

1741
01:29:36,240 --> 01:29:38,080
probably be fighting with punt
return.

1742
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:43,010
Again, everything is changed.
I think that's again, we talked

1743
01:29:43,010 --> 01:29:46,210
about being nostalgic.
That is the one thing about this

1744
01:29:46,210 --> 01:29:48,290
area of college football we're
in with the portal.

1745
01:29:48,650 --> 01:29:52,490
You're a bad team one year you
go make the right moves, build

1746
01:29:52,490 --> 01:29:54,650
the right culture, bring the
right people in.

1747
01:29:55,010 --> 01:29:57,970
It doesn't take long to flip and
that's where I was.

1748
01:29:57,970 --> 01:30:00,650
That's why I kind of went after
Brett a little bit and said it

1749
01:30:00,650 --> 01:30:04,490
ain't like we were two and 10
and got boat raced in 10 games.

1750
01:30:04,570 --> 01:30:09,350
We got boat raced in really one.
One, I'll say this, we didn't

1751
01:30:09,350 --> 01:30:14,230
bring in any sure things, but we
brought in a whole lot of good

1752
01:30:14,230 --> 01:30:17,590
compared to what we had, the
talent level that was on the

1753
01:30:17,590 --> 01:30:21,070
roster last year, what we had,
all right, anything breaking, we

1754
01:30:21,070 --> 01:30:22,510
didn't.
We didn't change conferences

1755
01:30:22,510 --> 01:30:25,590
while we sitting here.
Everyone quit and check it real

1756
01:30:25,630 --> 01:30:27,310
quick.
Not yet, man.

1757
01:30:27,310 --> 01:30:27,990
Not yet.
Yeah.

1758
01:30:27,990 --> 01:30:30,190
Yeah.
All right, well, since that is

1759
01:30:30,190 --> 01:30:33,710
it, we are going to wrap up this
episode of the Boundary Corner

1760
01:30:33,710 --> 01:30:36,710
podcast brought to you by Main
Street Pharmacy in Blacksburg.

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I am Curtis Wilson.
I'm Brian Siegler.

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Jonathan Talley.
And I'm Sheldon Moss.

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Visit our website
boundarycornerbt.com to listen

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to all of our episodes.
Also, we do have the merchandise

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shop there at Boundary Corner
Store, which I have been

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thinking about maybe making a
new one.

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Just been thinking about some
old school stuff in my head.

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Why you're there?
Follow us on Twitter, Facebook,

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Instagram, subscribe to our
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Shout out to all those on
YouTube tonight.

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I know we've got quite a few.
Been on with this the whole

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time.
Also your favorite podcast

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source including Spotify, Amazon
and Apple Podcasts.

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As always, we let Jason Long,
our buddy down in Roanoke, play

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us in.
He plays us out.

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Check him out of his website
jasonlongmusic.com.

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This weekend, August 12th, he
will be at the Pepper Palooza at

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the Grandin Village Farmers
Market from 8:00 to noon.

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So check him out there.
If you are in the area, check

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out his most recent covers EP,
including the Midnight rider you

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heard with the Brent Pry
episode.

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We thank you all for always
listening and as always, let's

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go.
How next week beat at B Square?

Brett Ciancia

Creator/Owner of Pick Six Previews

Creator of Pick Six Previews. Brett's BCS and Power 5 predictions have been rated the “Most Accurate” in the nation by Stassen.com who has been tracking prediction accuracy for decades. Brett is a FWAA member as well s being a voter on several national awards such as the Heisman, Biletnikoff, Outland, and Nagurski.

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