The Hokies have officially secured their QB1 and are well on their way to a unanimous top 10 transfer portal class. In this episode we discuss the portal adds for the Hokies, key retentions from the 2025 roster, and what is left to do on the staff building side as the transfer portal window draws to a close.
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Maori Welcome back, boys.
Hey, this is the first time we
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queued it up since state of the
program.
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How we feeling?
How we feeling it's been?
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Well, that ain't that long ago.
2 two weeks.
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Little two weeks little.
Over 2 weeks.
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It's it's that time of year.
Well, it's a new year.
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It's 2025.
Last time we all got together
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here.
I mean, not counting phone calls
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and text messages, which are by
the hundreds and hundreds
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nowadays.
But yeah, first time all year,
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definitely going to be a good
time tonight.
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A ton to unload tally.
How you feeling man?
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Feeling good.
We're feeling good.
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Maybe everybody can quit asking
if we got a quarterback, because
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we do knew what was going to
happen sooner or later.
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Glad it finally happened.
Stop asking.
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We got quarterback.
QB 1 is in the building.
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Negotiations are done.
Signed, sealed, delivered.
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I'm yours.
There we go.
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It's always feeling good.
You know what, when you when you
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get a quarterback one in the
building, you got to got to
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celebrate a little bit.
And I think this is one of those
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things where it's like this has
been a done deal for a while,
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but it just took a little bit to
kind of get it into that
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official, put it on the
timeline, throw it up, celebrate
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it across the board.
And people got a little antsy.
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People got a little antsy as we
were working through that
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process.
I don't know if we'll ever know
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exactly what the reason for kind
of that week, week and a half
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gap between that first
announcement from national media
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that Grunk was expected to sign
with the Hokies until we finally
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get this announcement today.
I'm glad it happened today
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because we get to talk about it
tonight.
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That's all I care about.
Brian, you said.
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Brian, you said week, week and
1/2.
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It seemed like it was a year and
a half.
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Every day, every day, 9 million
to whoever Chewbacca Hokie is or
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whatever his name is.
He was tweeting at Kobe every
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day.
Matter of fact, he was so into
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it that he tweeted today and
said, Kobe, where is Gronk?
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And he was already, he was
already committed.
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It was already Miller.
Yeah.
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Then he just went back and said,
oh, I'm sorry, I missed.
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My bad, I missed.
I missed the announcement.
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You should have.
Had you should have had new new
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new tweets from Grunk on alert.
On alert as soon as that thing
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hit and it it hit the Instagram
first, But let's I mean, we got
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a lot of other stuff to unload
on the back end.
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But let's hit the big news
because it was something dare
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say the program we talked about
quite a few times.
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Tally, you even said in like in
January, we want to have another
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state of the program because of
all the people leaving and all
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the people coming in and man, it
has been fast and furious and
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like both Tally and Siegel just
said a second ago, the
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quarterback is now on lock.
Ethan Gruntmeyer, everything
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committed.
Tally, you were like it felt
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like a year ago.
It did feel like a year to
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Virginia Tech And then finally
he makes his announcement today
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and you know, as you take a
look, just go back.
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First of all, he was a red shirt
freshman last year where he did
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play at Penn State, played in
seven games, went four and three
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in those games. 70% completion
percentage, a little over 1300
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yards, 8 touchdowns, 4 picks as
a red shirt freshman.
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That was really his first game
axe and I think he played like
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one game like 10 snaps his red
shirt year.
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So he got baptized by fire after
Larr gets down and we take a
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look at him.
Y'all, it's been a long, long
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time since we had a quarterback
ranked this high.
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And when I say that he was the
number 8 quarterback on 247 in
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2024 with 500 player national, I
mean POSIT 5 star, POSIT 4 star
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off the board.
And we're not talking like 94
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star, we're talking 95.
We're talking like he was
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creeping potentially be almost
5.
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So I've kind of mentioned how
you feel now, obviously we
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watched Ted the Clemson game and
some of the other game and to
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the day, to this day, he is the
quarterback that has come
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closest to unseating Indiana
this year, if not for the totes
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guy.
So I don't know who which one of
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y'all want to start it, but what
do y'all, what have y'all seen
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on tape?
What you like, what you're a
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little worried about with Ethan?
Tally, I'm going to let you ride
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on this one first.
I know, I know.
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You got a lot.
To you got some feelings on it,
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Tally?
You've been you've been sharing
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them with us.
No, man, he's just, he's just,
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he's, I think he's of course a
young quarterback.
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I think he's going to be a good
quarterback.
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I just worry about what we put
in front of him for next year as
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far as offensive line goes.
But again, I've got confidence
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that we'll get something right,
you know, we'll get it right
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enough.
Because from what I've watched,
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he's not very mobile.
I don't want to call him a
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statue, but he's close to it.
He looked like Medusa hit him
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maybe on half of his body.
So half of his body is stone,
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but he still can move a little
bit on that other half, which is
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good.
But again, every quarterback
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doesn't have to be mobile.
I'm not saying that you have to
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have a mobile quarterback, but
he does have to have a good line
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that gives him time to throw the
ball.
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When he does have time to throw
it, he's accurate with the ball.
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I think he's more accurate than
we've seen putting the ball on
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spots and getting it down field
in a in a while.
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You know maybe what maybe since
Hindon, yeah, I was thinking
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maybe since Hindon and we still
didn't get to see all of what
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Hindon could do.
You know, we had Hindon doing a
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lot of running.
So he's he he's I think he's
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going to be good.
He's already had kind of got
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thrown in the fire this year, so
he'll be kind of weather tested.
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But again, I'm just praying that
we put the right people around
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him.
As far as the offensive line, I
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think that the skill spots are
OK, which I'm sure we'll talk
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about a little later, but I
always worry about the trenches.
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So yeah, that's kind of what I
think.
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But I am very happy that we
picked him up.
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I think that that is a a good
pool for us.
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I won't say anything like, oh,
we should have got this person,
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but I think that getting him as
our quarterback is going to be
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beneficial.
And I think we'll be able to
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grow with him and I think we
would be able to win some games
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next year as long as we put we
got to get them tackle spots
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locked down like the tackles got
to be on point.
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Yep, and I'll be I'll, I'll,
I'll agree with most of that.
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I think when you look at Ethan
Gruckmeyer, he's a guy that, you
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know, got got pressed into
action and, you know, after a a
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game where, yeah, he was kind of
figuring things out the rest of
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the way.
I mean, there wasn't a whole lot
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to complain about from an output
standpoint.
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Accuracy is there decision
making is there ability to make
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reads in the offense is there to
to Tally's point, he's not a
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mobile quarterback.
You're not going to get him
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confused as a dual threat
quarterback.
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At the same time, if the pocket
breaks down, you know, he's got
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enough wiggle and enough
movement where he can, you know,
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scramble to, to, to get away
from a sack and, you know, get a
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few positive yards.
He's not going to go out there
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and break off the, the the 20
yarders with any consistency,
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but he can certainly do enough
to get you out of a negative
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play.
So we're still going to have to
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protect him, though.
That's that's the big thing is
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that, you know, when you get a
quarterback that is more of a
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pocket presence versus a mobile
guy, you got to make sure that
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you're taking care of him.
That was one of the things that
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was absolutely the weakness of
the Virginia Tech offense last
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year.
We got some guys coming in where
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they were going to talk about,
but at the end of the day, we're
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going to do a whole lot better
protect the quarterback with a
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quarterback like Ethan back
there.
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Yeah, we we absolutely are.
And Tally, you mentioned
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baptized by fire.
Beth put it lightly.
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His first three games he played
was at Iowa, so at Kinnock
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Stadium against Iowa's defense
and everybody knows they're
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never the fastest, but they
ain't never in the wrong spot
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and they always make tackles.
The next game was against Ohio
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State at the Horseshoe.
We know how how much talent they
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have on defense.
And in the third game was
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Indiana.
And again, that was the one
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where that was sort of the
coming out party for him because
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against Indiana he went for like
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touchdown and a pick.
So and then the rest of the
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season, obviously you know,
y'all can look and see the gaps
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of where he was.
But after the Indiana game, he
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threw new more picks in the next
four games along to go with 6
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touchdowns even against Clemson
in the Pinstripe Bowl.
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But again, it's a lot of wait
and see.
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I think the talents there.
You see some of his video he he
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ain't got no week on.
He ain't got no week on.
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He needs to put on a little
weight.
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He's like 62210.
I'd like to see him 62220 to 25.
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But some of that's just natural,
right?
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Like you're getting older,
you're going to grow.
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But to what both of y'all just
said, we've got to keep him up
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right?
And we'll talk about the outline
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in a little while here and we've
got to make sure we're we are
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putting him in good positions to
win.
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And I think some of the moves
and some of the things we have
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as far as it goes, wide
receivers, tight ends, running
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backs, it's not an empty
cupboard and he wasn't playing
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with an empty cupboard this
year.
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Don't get me wrong, a lot of
turmoil going on, but not an
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empty cupboard.
So that's the way I feel now I'm
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going to talk one more stay on
the quarterback room for just a
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second here.
Bryce Baker also got picked up
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and you know, Bryce Baker was
quicker to announce than was
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quicker to announce than Ethan.
But you know, from everything
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that we had heard, that was the
plan all along.
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That was the plan all along.
They were going to get you got
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to go ahead and get the backup
in.
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And yes, I know Bryce Baker has
not played that much, but again,
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class of 2025, it's high level
again.
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And I'm sure Talley, you've been
looking up Brian, you've been
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looking it up.
He's down from E 4th side down
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in Kernersville.
Talley I mean, excuse me,
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Sigler, you need to call
Heiselman up because I got a
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feeling they play.
I don't think he is
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Kernersville.
So he's 4 sites like rival
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school, that kid composite 86th
top 10 nationally as a
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quarterback.
And you know, so I know we don't
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have as much info and we know
who's the starter and who's the
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backup, but just in general, are
y'all OK with the depth or do
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y'all want like, do you feel
like Brown and Collins Schlee?
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Do we need to bring in one more
older vet guy who knows he's not
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going to play but, you know,
insurance?
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I don't think so.
I mean, I think you've got, you
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got 4 quarterbacks on the roster
at this point, really five once
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Hume comes in.
Yeah, I don't think that we
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really need to do anything much
more than that.
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If you get to the third
quarterback in your own your
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roster, you're kind of fucked
anyway.
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So.
If if we're if we're if we're in
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that situation, then we're
probably in the season that we
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don't want to be in to begin
with.
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I like what we're seeing.
You know, you get you get grunk,
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you get a guy that showed a lot
of promise pretty early, a lot
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of upside has a good chance of
you improving upon that that
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first experience there.
Then you look at Bryce Baker,
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you got to you got a guy that is
is athletic.
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He can do so you can do some
things with his legs.
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He's shown some, you know, raw
talent, but you know, probably a
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little bit less polished than
what you've seen from Ethan at
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this point.
Honestly, just from a makeup
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standpoint, I think Bryce is
kind of the ideal backup to
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someone like Grunk.
Just because you can, you don't,
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you don't have to to lean on
everything that Grunk does.
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You can kind of look at
incorporating some of Baker's
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rushing ability in the offense
to kind of take some of the the
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of the pressure off the passing
game if it comes to that
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situation.
Can you feel Bryce Tally?
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Yeah, so I got a good friend
that his son went to school
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with, Bryce.
He was his wide receiver.
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He ended up going to that.
My friend's son ended up going
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to Charleston, University of
Charleston, so he's a wide
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receiver there.
So I just talked with him a
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little bit just about what he
thought about the signing.
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He said Bryce is a, first of
all, the good kid.
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He's a really good kid.
And again, this is just him
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personally knowing him, said
Bryce is a good kid.
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You're not going to find a
better kid to have in the
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program.
He's not as mobile as people
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would think.
He can move, but he's more he
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wants to throw the ball.
His thing is he he holds the
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ball a little bit longer than
probably he needs to.
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But I think in high school he
probably threw for a senior
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year.
He may have threw for 3000
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yards, 3500 yards, something
like that.
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So he can throw the ball.
He does have a little hitch in
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his wind up.
So I think some coaches may want
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to change that because it's an
in between kind of a side arm
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and overhand throw, which
sometimes can be a little
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erratic, but very, very talented
kid, which is why James Franklin
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went after him, why UNC went
after him.
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You know, he's a he's very, he's
very talented, but it's going to
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be more of a project to have
somebody like him on your
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roster, which is nothing wrong
with that, you know what I'm
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saying?
That's why you get people to
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develop them, because you can
take a kid like that and the
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right coach can pour into him
and next thing you know, you get
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a, you know, you get a starting
quarterback.
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So I think it's good.
I'm interested.
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I I didn't do a lot of like, you
know, watching him play before
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the pickup.
But of course after that I went
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back and looked at a little bit
and like I said, called my buddy
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and looked at some of his kids
high school tape.
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So it was, it was, it was good
to see and it just no disrespect
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to any kids that we've got, but
the floor of Virginia Tech's
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talent level has been raised.
You know what I'm saying?
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It's like you damn near got to
be a four-star to get recruited
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moving forward, you know, and
it's not all about the stars
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because there's some great
players that come from
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everywhere.
But I'm just looking at what
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they're putting on high, high
Level 3 stars and and four stars
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that they're getting into the
program from the high school
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recruiting ranks now in the
transport portal.
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That's what they're going to go
look for it.
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But that's what that's what
James Franklin was going to
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bring anyway.
You know, that's what he is.
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So anybody who is surprised by
what he's doing, you haven't
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been watching college football
or you haven't paid attention to
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him, so. 100%.
I'm I'm definitely excited.
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Yeah, couple other things about
Bryce Baker.
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So everyone knows Penn State
recruited him as well.
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Danny O'Brien was his primary
recruiter.
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I'll let that.
I'm going to put this up real
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quick because I'm going to
answer it real quick.
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No tally and let you look at
that question.
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No.
Brian.
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No, I don't think so.
No, so sorry, it's it's not
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Tyrod was special dude.
Tyrod was the number three
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player in the country, I believe
the year he came out.
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It's it's completely different.
These are and you've got one guy
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who's been baptized already.
So a little different.
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I don't mind the question, but
that's what you're going to get
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from me.
All right, let's flip it over
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because Tally, you mentioned
trenches.
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I'm going to get away from the
offense for a second because as
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I started counting everything,
the biggest influx of players in
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the portal and up to date it is
7 and we got 23 commits.
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That is the defensive line.
So as you've been seeing them
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come through and like seeing
this guy committed this kind of
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he was here, he was here.
Who's the guy that has caught
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your eye?
Of the seven defensive lineman
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that have walked through the
doors?
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Dally, can you hear me?
Oh, is it me?
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I thought you.
Yeah, you, you, you.
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Yeah, you mentioned trenches, so
you get to go.
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First, Yeah.
So I don't know, man, it's a
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it's it's hard to just pick
probably one of the probably for
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me, just physically what they
look like, what I think they'll
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be able to do.
I would probably go with the was
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it Hilson kid that came from
from Missouri.
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He just looks physically
imposing.
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He looks like he can, he just
looks like he he can play looks
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like he's getting ready like he
can.
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He's going to be able to come in
and make an impact.
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But trenches are where you win
and lose the game, you know, so
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some people's like, man, it
looks like we taking too much of
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this.
So we're doing this.
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I just feel like if you go look
at the eligibility of the
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players that we bringing in,
most of them are, you know,
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three years, some maybe 2.
Most are three or four year of
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eligibility.
I think that he's really trying
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to build a program.
He's not trying to go out and
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get one hit of quitters.
He's trying to go out and get
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some kids or young men that can
come in and they can build
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around that they can keep here
and next year, you know, you go
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out, you put a good product on
the field, then you can go and
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cherry pick what you need.
So I said bring it all the time
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that you can get bring it.
But like I said, the kid from
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Missouri, without going too deep
into all the other stuff that
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we'll go into, the kid from
Missouri looks good to me.
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But I'm, I'm excited to see like
it was just every day he was
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waking up, it was like
Christmas.
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It was my time.
Maybe like 9:00 in the morning.
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Oh, we got to commit or 11:00 we
got to commit, 2:00 we got to
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commit.
It's like 6-7 commits in a day,
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5 commits in a day.
Like, man, it was hard to keep
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up, I ain't going to lie.
Like I had to go back at the end
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of it.
And like, who we, how many
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people did we get today?
Who did who, Who committed
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today?
So yeah, Ryan, what?
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About you.
Man, if I really had to circle
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1, you know, it would probably
be Kamari and Morgan kid from
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Baylor, The edge, you know, just
got the physicality that you
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like to see already has some,
you know, a decent amount of
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snaps under his belt at this
point.
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Looks the part we got, we got
somebody with with with with
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grills on the team now.
So that's something to talk
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about.
I, I think it's going to be,
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he's going to be the, the
biggest impact probably out the
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gate.
But it's, it's while seeing to
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me like looking at the, the guys
that, that we bringing in and,
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and Tally, you made the point of
it.
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Like most of these guys are like
red shirt sophomores.
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Most, most of them have three
years of eligibility remaining.
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Yeah, coupled coupled with two
years, some with that are just
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red shirt freshmen coming in.
But like most of these guys have
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two to three years of
eligibility remaining, which
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means that James is is trying to
raise the floor in 2026, but
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he's trying to make some noise
in 2027.
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And when we look at what that
looks like, is that a, is that
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A8 win team in 26?
We'll see.
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Is that a nine win team in 26?
We'll see.
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But you're you're raising the
floor of the talent level of
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this roster significantly with
the majority guys that were
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four-star or high three star,
you know, coming in in high
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school, the talent level is
going up significantly,
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especially relative to what is
leaving the program.
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Yeah, let me say, let me say
this right quick, Brian.
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I know Curtis got to jump in
here too, but I, you know,
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sitting back just looking, we
all do it talking on Twitter all
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day, messing with people.
But just looking at some of the
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comments, when people say, you
know, or even some of the
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messages or somebody say, well,
why do you think we we don't,
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we're supposed to have all this
money.
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Why don't we go out and get a
bona fide guy, you know, to play
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whatever position.
But see, that's the problem.
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We we need everything.
You know, we had a couple of
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good people pieces here, good,
good pieces there.
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These people were hurt in this
area.
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When you need everything, you
can't overspend on anything.
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Like we can't overspend on
nothing because we end up, I
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think Billy Ray said it, I, I
don't watch so many podcasts
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later, but I think Billy Ray
said it on his show the other
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day.
You end up in a situation like
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Oklahoma, even though they did
make the playoffs, but they they
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brought in other guys.
They went out and got that
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running back from Cal with Jaden
OTT, who was a stud.
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And then he comes to Oklahoma
and you know, he's hurt all
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year.
He gets 21 carries with 69
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yards.
How much play do you spend on
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that?
You just mean we we're not in
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position to do that.
We're not in the position to do
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that because we're a three win
team and we are a losing
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program.
You got to get that through your
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head.
We're a losing program right
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now.
So we got to build it up and we
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got to put the depth in the
building.
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Then somebody's going to pan
out.
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I mean, if you bring in seven
running backs, I know we ain't
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bringing 7 running backs.
But if you bring in seven
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running backs and one of them
don't work out, you probably
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don't need to be coaching no
more.
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So you bring those, you bring
those defensive lineman in and,
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and, and get them in on the
right amount of NIL and spread
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it across.
Somebody's going to work their
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butts off to get on that.
And you still got Kamar
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Copeland, still got Kamari
Copeland, which we need.
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One of the must keeps was
Copeland and we kept it.
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I'll throw mine in real quick.
And of all these guys y'all
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mentioned, Hilson and Morgan, I
feel like they're the crown
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jewels.
But Tally, when I sent you the
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thing about Mensa, you got on it
like he like he did US dirty.
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He drank some crown tonight.
Tally feeling good but it's good
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to see like a guy like Mensa
come back that quick that quick
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because his body's already ready
like a kid 633 O 5 he's he's
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ready to play inside can he get
there quick enough which one's
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that BlackBerry crown nice
that's who I'm excited for now
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you just mentioned it Charlie
and I think we we were talking
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tonight guys coming back on the
defensive line like who you
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excited about and I mean Kamari
yeah like him coming back is a
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big deal and and you know he he
got the tutelage of JC for all
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those years now he's getting
Sean Spencer chaos.
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You know, you y'all can look and
see if there's anybody else.
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I think a few only.
I've only seen a few guys have
442
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,320
announced they're coming back.
When I hear announced, that
443
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:36,880
means people were coming after
them.
444
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:44,480
But I mean you, you tell me
Copeland's ready to go and.
445
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,760
You know, laws.
Laws coming back you got, yeah.
446
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,880
Taco Fall, who probably, you
know, came out of nowhere, had
447
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,680
some.
His name is definitely not Taco.
448
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:58,840
His name is Elijah Fall.
Taco Fall is about A-76
449
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,040
basketball player for like.
My bad.
450
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:02,920
I said the wrong name.
You good?
451
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,520
You good?
You got the name the only.
452
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,840
Reason.
The only reason that I was that
453
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:14,920
I said that is Elijah Fall is a
sneaky good running back because
454
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:19,040
he was serviceable this year.
Defensive lineman, we ain't on
455
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,120
running backs yet, he said.
Run it back, run it, run it
456
00:28:21,120 --> 00:28:24,400
back, everybody.
'S fucking up now everybody man
457
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,160
y'all screwing up like I screwed
up names.
458
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:31,320
No.
So no, he, he was serviceable,
459
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,280
you know, he created some chaos,
no pun intended, in the
460
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:42,680
backfield.
So now when you put a lying
461
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:47,680
around him that you know, all is
going to require some extra
462
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,920
attention, you know, you got to
have that depth, you know what
463
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:53,800
I'm saying?
I don't know how many sacks he
464
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,760
had last year, but I remember at
least probably 2 1/2.
465
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:02,080
And hell, we only had fucking 10
I believe so.
466
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,360
Hey, I like the Elijah fall
running back.
467
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,400
I'm glad.
I'm glad that he's back.
468
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,440
Not a lot, not a lot.
All right, let's flip it back to
469
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,760
offense real quick because I
feel like every name you've seen
470
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,720
on this next one, I'm going to
let Brian kick it off the skill
471
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:25,760
position room over on on offense
between the wide receivers and
472
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,880
running backs in the tight ends.
Like who?
473
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:34,760
Like who is as soon as you said
that kid committed like either
474
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:39,240
shock or yes or fist pumps or
whatever.
475
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:43,880
What we say, tight end?
Skill positions, well, I'm just
476
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,160
seeing a tight end running.
Hey, let Brian go first.
477
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,160
Hey, you know what I mean?
I love what we did at tight end.
478
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,280
You get Luke Reynolds and Matt
Henderson in the building.
479
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,960
That's a good thing.
But the the the needle mover for
480
00:29:55,960 --> 00:30:00,000
me is Quayshawn Brown.
That was the needle mover for
481
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,120
me.
You see what he was able to do
482
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,040
with Duke.
You know, he's a guy that's
483
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,920
going to come in and probably
immediately take over the slot.
484
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,840
So I mean that's that that's the
one for me.
485
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,120
That's the needle mover.
I think everybody else,
486
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,840
obviously Luke Reynolds, you
know, we we we've got a good
487
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,880
tight end on on the roster
already.
488
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,000
I think what we brought in is
going to really round everything
489
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,040
out.
But as far as like impact player
490
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,520
and what I think can really jump
off the page pretty quick way
491
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:35,760
Shawn Brown is that.
Yeah, question on Brown was
492
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,120
definitely a a underrated pick
up.
493
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:40,520
I would say.
I don't know how you can be
494
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,600
underrated.
I think it was ranked like 93 in
495
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,200
the portal or something like
that that.
496
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,040
Guy had like almost 1000 yards
last year.
497
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,280
Yeah, that was a good, that was
definitely a good pick up.
498
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:51,640
That was definitely a good pick
up.
499
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,840
But I got to, I got to say Luke
Reynolds.
500
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,920
I mean, that was the name that
we heard.
501
00:30:55,920 --> 00:31:01,040
I'm a tight end guy, of course,
but the name that we heard from
502
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:07,200
the beginning was Gronk and Luke
Reynolds, and they took the
503
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:11,880
longest to come in, so had to
make a sweat a little bit.
504
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,400
For whatever reason.
I'm OK with it.
505
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:21,880
But Reynolds, I think we've
really forget how because this
506
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,480
year our tight end usage was
crap.
507
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:29,200
You know, we kind of knew.
That's what Montgomery does with
508
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,720
his tight ends.
Doesn't really use them much,
509
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:36,000
but to have a tight end that can
be very versatile, like the ones
510
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,360
we're bringing in, somebody
said, you know, we need to keep
511
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:43,000
Benji.
I think Benji's staying, but
512
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,080
Benji going to have to work
because Benji don't like the
513
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,720
block.
You know, Benji going to have to
514
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,120
work, but Benji's a he's a good
piece.
515
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:54,000
But when you bring in some other
guys that are hungry to get on
516
00:31:54,000 --> 00:32:01,680
the field, I mean, you still got
Jorika's Benji, the Henderson
517
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,840
kid that just got there being
Reynolds, it's going to be a
518
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,840
fight in every room to get on
the field.
519
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:13,320
And I think that's what we've
lacked in the past because us as
520
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,720
fans, we Virginia Tech fans,
nowhere else, I don't think.
521
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,040
But the Virginia Tech fans will
say stuff like, man, we don't
522
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:21,920
need to be looking at this
because we're going to make this
523
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,000
kid mad and he's going to leave.
Fuck him.
524
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,560
I mean, if you got to go, you
got to go.
525
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:31,160
We get it, but we've won three
games, so no position should be
526
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,280
safe.
You got to come here and compete
527
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,160
the win.
So I like what they've done with
528
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:40,240
the tight end room all together,
but I'm most excited about
529
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,720
Reynolds.
I mean, it's it's tough to like
530
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:49,680
follow up with those two and
saying with with Brown and
531
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:55,760
Reynolds because of a Brown's
numbers last year and then this
532
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,120
year, Luke Reynolds, you know,
just second year in the program,
533
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:03,520
you know, 25 catches or so.
He he's a beast.
534
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,640
You can see it when he plays.
There was a reason he was a five
535
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:07,880
star.
There was a reason he was the
536
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,920
best Titan in the country.
And it's paying off now and he
537
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:12,920
comes back and the guy who's
been coaching him up for the
538
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,760
last couple years, it is already
elevated his game.
539
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:20,280
But when I looked at this and
then kind of see who's coming
540
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:24,360
back and, you know, Aiden's
coming back with offense and all
541
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,480
that.
I, I, I looked at the running
542
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:32,840
back and I looked at Bill, you
know, Bill, Bill, you know, Bill
543
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,920
Davis, Bill Davis, that's.
A normal name, right?
544
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,720
Normal name, but when?
When when I started thinking
545
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:45,000
about the way Hawkins and
Overton ran with no semblance of
546
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:51,000
a passing game at all, no
symbols of a passing game.
547
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,440
And I start thinking, well, man,
those two are going to be
548
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,720
complimentary backs.
But you know, there's sometimes
549
00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:00,000
this third and a yard and a half
and we we we had Terry and
550
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,480
Stewart.
He couldn't stay healthy.
551
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:07,080
But I like Bill Davis is that
situational short, short yardage
552
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:11,560
golden go situation where his
five foot nine 220 LB.
553
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,280
I'm assuming Bill got fatal ass
big.
554
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,520
Just go through the line and get
through yard.
555
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:20,120
Bill.
What's?
556
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:27,000
Going on today, hold on, hold,
hold on for a minute.
557
00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:33,440
You don't think a You don't
think a 5 foot 9200 and 29220 LB
558
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:37,120
named black man don't have a fat
old ass to run through the line
559
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:37,920
for a first?
Down.
560
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,920
Oh my God, what day is this?
Is this Wednesday?
561
00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:44,040
This is Wednesday, man.
This is Wednesday.
562
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:45,199
It's Wednesday.
He's going.
563
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,199
To be he's going to be humping
through the but but when I see
564
00:34:51,199 --> 00:34:57,240
that in seeing that fat O we
going to see the back in his fat
565
00:34:57,240 --> 00:34:59,200
O ass all season sitting in the
end zone.
566
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:05,240
Running on the shirt, but.
But y'all see what I'm saying
567
00:35:05,240 --> 00:35:06,720
right?
Because you start thinking,
568
00:35:06,720 --> 00:35:09,040
well, Grunt Meyer is a more
developed passer.
569
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,760
You got Aiden coming back,
you've got Reynolds, you've got
570
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,080
Brown.
It's seemingly like we've
571
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:17,880
improved the offensive line a
little bit.
572
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,720
And now you're talking about not
having to have Overton and
573
00:35:21,720 --> 00:35:24,440
Hawkins get those grime yards,
right?
574
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,560
Like get those, like this is
like, this is going to hurt.
575
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,280
Send Bill in there.
What about you?
576
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,520
I, I, I know we go have like a
caked up running back discussion
577
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,280
here.
So I wasn't, I wasn't ready to
578
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:39,760
comment.
I'm not 220, I'm nine, 220
579
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:44,400
short.
Hey, hey, so offensively,
580
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,680
offensively, skill wise, who are
you glad to see back?
581
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:52,800
I can't get back to Brian.
Did not, I mean, I said quite
582
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,600
Sean, so no.
No, no coming back running.
583
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,720
Coming back, Oh my bad, my bad,
my bad.
584
00:35:57,720 --> 00:35:58,480
You did?
Yeah.
585
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,240
You think about this?
I don't ask.
586
00:36:01,240 --> 00:36:03,480
He he, you threw me off, man.
He threw me off.
587
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,560
I mean, it's got to be Jeffrey
Overton junior, man, it's got to
588
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:12,720
be because when you look at the
talent that he showed as a true
589
00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:18,360
freshman coming back from
injury, he he popped off the
590
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:23,240
screen man, like he looked like
a different cat than everybody
591
00:36:23,240 --> 00:36:25,480
else.
So when you when you get him
592
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,440
another year of seasoning, you
get him a little bit of extra
593
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:32,040
help up front and you get him a
quarterback that can get the
594
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,240
ball down field so he's not
running against loaded boxes.
595
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,320
Lookout man, it's going to be
serious.
596
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:43,160
Jeffrey over to junior.
Ron, I mean tally.
597
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,360
Yeah, so I got to go and y'all
hanging out with me.
598
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,960
Chad, if y'all don't understand,
I'm going to take you and get
599
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,720
you right.
I got to go with my nephew,
600
00:36:53,520 --> 00:37:00,200
Keelan Adams, because what we've
lacked is a downfield threat.
601
00:37:00,720 --> 00:37:03,040
You know, we haven't thrown the
ball downfield because a
602
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:04,240
quarterback couldn't get it
there.
603
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:08,160
But also we haven't had a
receiver that really stretches
604
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,000
the field.
You know, maybe two years ago we
605
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,480
we threw a couple downfield.
Quan maybe caught a couple, but
606
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:18,160
consistently we haven't had that
receiver that could stretch the
607
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,720
field.
And AG is not that kind of
608
00:37:20,720 --> 00:37:22,720
receiver.
AG is going to be.
609
00:37:22,720 --> 00:37:25,440
He's to me, he's more of like a
possession receiver.
610
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:31,320
He can get open and he can go
get a 5050 ball, but just to go
611
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,320
say, hey, on the other side of
him, I need you to run past him.
612
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:39,000
We haven't had a receiver that
can do that recently.
613
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:43,160
I think Keelan Adams will be the
one that can do that as long as
614
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,760
he can stay healthy.
We got to be able to have
615
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,640
somebody who can stretch that
field.
616
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:51,280
Exactly what Brian said.
Soto's running backs aren't
617
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:57,040
running with a full box.
There's no there is no reason at
618
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:58,840
all.
Jeffrey over Overton should have
619
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,600
been able to score on Miami.
I don't know how he did it
620
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,680
because we couldn't do nothing
else but run the ball.
621
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,240
I don't know how he got through
that and scored a touchdown.
622
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,400
You know, however many yards he
had that game because when I
623
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,280
watched him play everybody else,
it ain't looking like that.
624
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:19,480
So kids got to be talented, we
got to help them out.
625
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,800
We got to and no disrespect to
Hawkins too.
626
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,160
Hawkins is a is a was a really
good solid back for us.
627
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:32,400
So I'm looking for us to have
that to have that downfield
628
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:36,360
threat so grunt can have
somebody to say, hey, I need you
629
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,360
to go get this one for me.
And if y'all haven't got a
630
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:45,160
chance to go watch Kobe, he
interviewed the new wide
631
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:49,120
receiver, Jeff.
Yeah, that was excellent.
632
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,160
Yeah.
So you can hear him talk about
633
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,680
some of the things that the
coaches have said to him, saying
634
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:57,560
this is what we're looking to
do.
635
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,680
We're going to throw the ball
more than we did at Penn State,
636
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,120
and we're going to have our
spots where we can get it down
637
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:04,680
field.
So that's what they're going to
638
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,320
be looking to do, too.
Yeah.
639
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,840
By the way, Bill Davis, 235, not
220.
640
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,440
Yeah.
Say it again, Curtis.
641
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,640
You want to say it, Curtis?
Say the line.
642
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:20,200
Say the line.
Curtis Bill Davidson's fat old
643
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,200
ass going in on 3rd and one
getting us a first down all.
644
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,400
Right.
Hey, look who just joined and
645
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,240
that's what he joined to.
Will the three of them.
646
00:39:31,240 --> 00:39:32,640
There he is, my boy.
Is.
647
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,640
Here y'all they following Will
man.
648
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,840
Y'all got to follow Will.
That's my God, man.
649
00:39:38,720 --> 00:39:41,160
All right, let's flip it over
because again, let's get back to
650
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,400
trench talk.
Let's talk about the offensive
651
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,880
line, Brian.
Right now three guys have been
652
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,640
introduced to us, maybe more
coming.
653
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,520
That's Justin Bell, Logan
Howlin, Michael Troutman.
654
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:55,960
How much research have you done
on them?
655
00:39:55,960 --> 00:40:02,280
And you know, what are you?
What are you foreseeing?
656
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,480
Yeah, I mean, I, I really like
Howlin.
657
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,440
I feel like Howlin is the guy
that, you know, I'm circling
658
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:12,680
right now to unless, unless we
do something else to slide in at
659
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:17,160
that left tackle position, I, I
think we end up putting him
660
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,120
there.
I think that's, that's where he
661
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:20,680
played.
He made his hey there.
662
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,480
The the games that he was
healthy and played.
663
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,160
He's a guy that looked like he
got better as things went along.
664
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:36,360
And when we look at what what we
were working with last year, I
665
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,520
think, you know, you, you
probably had Johnny Garrett
666
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:42,760
playing on the left because you
had to, you know, you probably
667
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:47,440
had a couple other guys out of
position because you had to let
668
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,360
Howland slot in there and left
get get Garrett back over on the
669
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,800
right side.
And you know, we'll see if we
670
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,080
get any other guys in the
building here to help us out.
671
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,200
But you got Altoona coming back,
you got some good interior
672
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,800
pieces and then you got Michael
Troutman coming in from from
673
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,560
Penn State.
You got Justin Bell coming in
674
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,320
for some depth.
It's a tackle position.
675
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,360
I think we've done some good
things so far.
676
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:12,480
I think we're still one or two
spots on the offensive line away
677
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,200
from being where I really would
want to be.
678
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:18,680
But Howlin is definitely the the
the linchpin so far as far as
679
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,040
the guys we've gotten in the
portal.
680
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:23,680
No facts.
Facts.
681
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,600
That's what.
That was a good pick up too.
682
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,880
And you know what I like about
that pick up burn was that
683
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,680
nobody mentioned his name.
He's popped up, you know,
684
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,680
everybody's an inside and
everybody has some kind of
685
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,600
knowledge or something.
And you know, you see, oh, I got
686
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,720
a crystal ball for this guy now.
He just popped up.
687
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,640
It was like this guy just
committed to Virginia Tech.
688
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,160
And I've seen the I've seen the
Oklahoma jersey.
689
00:41:48,240 --> 00:41:50,840
And I was like, is that my boy?
What's his name?
690
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:52,880
Troy Everett.
I thought it was Troy.
691
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,000
Everett, I was.
Like, did he come back?
692
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,800
The re, the re, the re, the
return man with Troy.
693
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,120
Troy Everett's been here more
than Brent Pry.
694
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,880
Yeah.
Yeah, no, it was not Troy
695
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:07,480
Everett, it was this guy.
So I'm like, OK.
696
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:14,160
And if you go look too, I mean
the the size of the team, of
697
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,240
course, we've been preaching
this for a while, right, Curtis?
698
00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:17,440
And we have been getting.
Bigger.
699
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:18,360
We've been.
Yeah, we've been.
700
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,400
That's what I'm going to say.
We've been preaching this for a
701
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,000
while, just saying, hey, you
know, we need to be bigger.
702
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,840
But going back to the Fuente
era, then the beginning of the
703
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,720
Pride era, then even to now,
it's like, how tall are you as a
704
00:42:29,720 --> 00:42:31,400
lineman?
Oh, you ain't 65.
705
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:36,560
Yeah, we got to keep only person
who can be shorter than 65 is
706
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,840
the center and that's still
about 6-3.
707
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:41,840
Not a lie.
Not a lie.
708
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,200
Yeah, Halo was the big one
because when you start, because
709
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,200
they the first thing I think we
probably all thought of was
710
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,280
like, he was probably the
backup.
711
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,880
He's he's probably got a load of
talent, just been backing up.
712
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:59,720
But now it's the old Wally Pip
situation that he started in
713
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:03,920
2024, six games and it was at
the end of the season.
714
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,080
It was against like Alabama,
Missouri, who have been a good
715
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:08,640
team.
He played against some good
716
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:12,360
teams.
He had played in total 13 games
717
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:17,920
and he got hurt. 2025, he was
looked to do some, probably
718
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,440
projected starting, got hurt,
got lolly pipped.
719
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,680
That happened.
But that's how I benefit.
720
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,640
So you're looking at a guy who
has had that starting.
721
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,800
He's got a ton of snaps and I
keep telling people for me, when
722
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:34,480
it's offensive line, whether how
good they are or not, it's
723
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,680
snaps.
That it going to matter more
724
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:41,040
than anything because if a guy
is getting playing time, Brian,
725
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,080
you can attest to this tally
playing on the tight end
726
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,280
position.
You can attest to it until you
727
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:49,560
know how people come at you in
understanding how to play the
728
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,200
offensive line.
You can look great.
729
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:55,560
A lot of guys are 65310 and a
lot of guys can do good kickback
730
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,200
grills, but when it's someone
coming off the edge, you're
731
00:43:58,200 --> 00:43:59,680
going to bull rush right in your
face.
732
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,440
How do you handle it?
Clearly they trusted him enough
733
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,560
within six games with some
injuries that happened and then
734
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,320
they were going to trust him
enough this year and then things
735
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:08,720
happen.
So that's good for us.
736
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,000
Now.
Brian Talley, I got a feeling
737
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:13,840
y'all are going to agree on the
same person.
738
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,080
But if the guys coming back, who
are you excited about on the
739
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:22,560
offensive line?
I'll tell them the center, I
740
00:44:25,240 --> 00:44:33,120
mean Altoona once again thrown
in the fire, probably shouldn't
741
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:37,560
have had to play as much as he
did this year, but did a good
742
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:42,080
job, did a serviceable job.
If you go back and look at our
743
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,920
games, of course, everybody
struggled in pass protection,
744
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:51,680
but did a really solid job of
run blocking and you didn't see
745
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:57,520
a lot of snaps on the ground.
So I'm, I don't know of any, you
746
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,840
know, skipping snaps, getting
skipped to the quarterback or
747
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,080
anything like that.
So that's a hard thing to do.
748
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,400
That ain't easy.
So I'm excited about our tune of
749
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:13,640
another year of him to mature.
And this year he'll really,
750
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,280
really have to compete for that
job because you're going to have
751
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,440
some guys in that room that
really want to play.
752
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:22,880
So I think that the talent level
has been raised and the
753
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:24,680
competition is going to be
raised as well.
754
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:28,360
Sorry, Brian, I know I took your
guy.
755
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:30,600
Hey.
And you?
756
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,200
Should you should because he's
he's the guy that everyone
757
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,160
should be excited about.
He's the guy that had the
758
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,680
postseason accolades, the only
one on the offensive line that
759
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:44,520
earned them and deserved them.
And he's the guy that was the
760
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:49,320
most consistent in terms of run
blocking and pass blocking on
761
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,000
that offensive line throughout
the season.
762
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,760
And another thing to talk about
looking at the 2025 is that
763
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,720
availability wise, he was he
stayed healthy, he was on the
764
00:45:58,720 --> 00:46:01,760
field and we didn't have a whole
lot of that at a whole lot of
765
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,200
positions last year.
So durability is important,
766
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,000
especially the guy that snapped
in the football.
767
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,520
So yeah, Al Tuner and it's not
even close.
768
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:19,400
So I got the game on behind me
right there, pokies down one
769
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,240
minute left in the first half.
It it.
770
00:46:22,240 --> 00:46:26,240
The answer is Al Tuner.
But you know, if you start
771
00:46:26,240 --> 00:46:29,760
looking guys, you got Lucas
Austin.
772
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,960
Like don't forget that name.
Lucas Austin came with Matt
773
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,880
Moore from West Virginia.
Montavious Cunningham gets
774
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:39,400
another year, Brodie Meadows
coming back off an injury.
775
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,920
So Alturner's the easy answer.
But there are a couple guys that
776
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,800
we've seen play and one guy we
hadn't seen play.
777
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,840
Where do they land?
And again, is there one more
778
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:50,560
piece?
I would feel better if we got
779
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:54,640
one more piece on the offensive
line where I got to see like
780
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:58,080
Curtis Terry.
Yes, he shares the name Curtis
781
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,440
Terry.
The Ohio State guy would be
782
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:04,360
like, the guy won't.
And even though he didn't start,
783
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,480
I think it's somewhere he had
like 113 snaps.
784
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,360
Like 113 snaps for a young guy
is really good.
785
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:16,800
So that would be one guy to look
out for and some guys definitely
786
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:17,560
coming.
All right.
787
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,760
Let's pretty sure his name is
Justin Terry.
788
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:24,200
Curtis, Curtis, Curtis.
Curtis Curtis was a linebacker
789
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,920
for the Buckeyes back in the
early 2.
790
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:29,280
Thousands.
I shouldn't have worked 10 hours
791
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:30,480
today.
That's all.
792
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,040
Almost there.
It's a new year, man.
793
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,800
Hey, we getting in gear?
Y'all bell with us?
794
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:37,120
Chad I.
Swore his name was.
795
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:41,840
Kurt, we get we getting in gear.
Justin Terry, the Ohio State
796
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,760
guy.
Hey, we you, you had another
797
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:46,560
Ohio State guy.
You just had the wrong one.
798
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:49,600
And he played years, years and
years ago.
799
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:51,400
I think he coaches for them.
Now, though.
800
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:53,600
He coaches, he coaches
somewhere.
801
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:55,880
Was it Kurt?
'S name last name 1 Terry was a
802
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:57,720
kid from Hermitage.
No his name.
803
00:47:57,720 --> 00:48:00,120
Was his name was Curtis Grant?
Harris Grant, Yeah.
804
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,360
Buckeye.
I don't know where.
805
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,680
Where did Herm come in?
Curtis Green played Hermitage.
806
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:09,600
Yeah, yeah.
But where did that come from?
807
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,720
Well, I thought you were saying
his name was Curtis Terry, not
808
00:48:12,720 --> 00:48:15,720
Curtis Green.
That's that's who, that's who
809
00:48:15,720 --> 00:48:18,360
you said you said Curtis Terry.
I said that's a that's a
810
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,120
linebacker from Ohio State from
the early 2000s.
811
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,920
Let's.
Move on defensive back primarily
812
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,880
the corners tally, there's three
that are coming and there are
813
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:29,840
three that are coming that's
played eight.
814
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:34,000
Well two didn't played a ton and
one that played a ton his
815
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:38,680
freshman year.
Of these three, Cam Jacquez and
816
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:43,600
Kenny, who you happy about?
No, it's all water tonight man.
817
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:47,160
That's the sad part.
Cali the one drinking but he
818
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:48,760
didn't made his errors too
tonight.
819
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,040
Yeah, it's been a little rough
man, but that's OK.
820
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:55,200
We had.
We got to, we got to break in
821
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:56,920
the new year, right?
You got to got to break it in.
822
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,640
This is this is episode 1 of
Season 7.
823
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,960
We're, we're, we're, we're
talking portal.
824
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:07,560
We know all these guys are new
to us, so we're figuring it out
825
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,640
as we go.
The giant Franklin era is wow.
826
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,840
Yeah.
Look at new king on Popping
827
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,080
Hill.
New King?
828
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,480
We gave you some props the other
day.
829
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,600
Show up.
And you didn't show up what's
830
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,640
wrong with you?
You better call crystal ball and
831
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,360
all them Cubans on that team and
tell him you about to play
832
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,080
another Cuban and y'all need to
get on his ass.
833
00:49:29,240 --> 00:49:34,920
That's all I'm saying.
Italy quarterback, yeah, Curtis
834
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,640
quarterbacks, Hood and three.
Black nose.
835
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,640
My boy from Troy.
My boy from Troy University.
836
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,520
I'm Troy.
Yeah, What's the jaqui?
837
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:45,720
Is white something white?
Yeah, he's.
838
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,280
White.
Go watch his tape.
839
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:50,680
You know I like what I see from
him.
840
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:52,920
Got a couple of years of
eligibility.
841
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,160
Come on in here.
And you got to be better than
842
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,280
what we had last year.
Just turn your head when the
843
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,680
ball is in the air.
When the ball is in the air,
844
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,560
turn your head.
Flip your head around.
845
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,200
You already in good position,
turn around, look at the ball.
846
00:50:06,240 --> 00:50:14,080
That's all we need.
Yeah, I mean, Tally said it
847
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,440
Jacquez White is is the guy to
look at in this area.
848
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:21,600
I I think a guy like Cam
Chadwick is a little underrated
849
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,000
here.
I think he had some good
850
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:29,000
instances of being a ball hawk.
I think he does pretty well in
851
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,560
coverage overall.
But Jacques White is the guy
852
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:35,880
that jumps off the the page in
terms of his ability to really
853
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,640
do a little bit of everything
that you want from a cornerback
854
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,480
and not afraid to get a little
pop in there as well.
855
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,880
So I love cornerbacks that that
aren't afraid or shy away from
856
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,040
contacts.
So you're getting a little bit
857
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:51,160
of that with them as well.
Yeah, but in both of those guys,
858
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:52,760
it's one of the production guys,
right?
859
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:59,320
They've got, I know like you
said, White has two years left
860
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,280
and believe it or not, Chadwick
has two years left.
861
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,760
He's going to be a red shirt
junior this year.
862
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:11,800
So you're sort of backfilling
that room Kenny brought on
863
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:15,440
today, Kenny Woosley Junior, who
was up at Penn State and played
864
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:20,000
some snaps like that.
That was the one thing I feel
865
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:24,000
like this one position that you
do want production at because
866
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:28,680
you can see, right, You have to
cover people like you can be
867
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:30,320
kidding.
You're going to be put on an
868
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,840
island.
So love that.
869
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:36,200
But that room?
I think it's a little.
870
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:42,120
Shocking to say, no safeties.
I mean, yeah, we ain't got a
871
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,360
safety coach, but I feel like
there's gonna be storage coming
872
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:50,640
out on that for a while.
But are y'all OK with where we
873
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,080
are as far as who we brought
back with the safety room in the
874
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:59,120
other corners?
Good.
875
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:02,080
I don't think we're good, like
comfortable good.
876
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:06,960
I think we're good in terms of
like we got a guy that is really
877
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:08,360
good.
We need to make sure he stays
878
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,160
healthy in queue.
And and we and we got some other
879
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:14,280
guys that had some pretty good
experience last year that, you
880
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,800
know, if you need to put them in
the game, they're not going to
881
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:18,360
be an embarrassment.
They're not going to go out
882
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,480
there and you know, look like
their loss.
883
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,640
But at the same time, it would
have been potentially nice to
884
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:28,520
level up that position a little
bit more in this cycle, even
885
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:30,680
though we at this point it's
kind of stood pad at that
886
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:35,120
position.
Another sneaky good pick up was
887
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,800
the Woesley Kid or Woesley,
whatever his name is, that we
888
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,640
just got today.
That's the nickel.
889
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:46,520
I think that was a good pick up.
I was excited about that.
890
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,920
He's got some some game reps
that will help.
891
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:56,080
But again, going back to the
safety position and football,
892
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,280
it's all about being healthy,
you know what I'm saying?
893
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:04,440
I think Q is a a Sunday guy.
That's just me looking at his
894
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,880
potential, but he's got to stay
healthy, you know what I'm
895
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:12,320
saying?
But putting it all together,
896
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,640
maybe the coaches move some
people around or maybe they see
897
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,080
some stuff we don't because we
have not.
898
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:19,880
We haven't went after any
safeties.
899
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:22,400
None.
We haven't went after no
900
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:25,480
safeties or maybe we have, we
just don't know about it.
901
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:29,640
But from what we've seen, we
haven't targeted any safety, so
902
00:53:30,720 --> 00:53:34,400
they got to like what they see
out of Robinson and what they
903
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:38,200
see out of Reddish and all those
guys back on the back end.
904
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,040
I think flowers may be back
flowers.
905
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:42,440
Yeah.
Bass.
906
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:44,200
Yeah, bass.
I forgot about bass.
907
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:48,800
Bass cool cool cool red shirt.
I don't even remember seeing him
908
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:50,360
do nothing, so I can't even say
nothing.
909
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:54,440
I don't know what Global can do.
I know one thing that Bass can
910
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:55,840
do.
Bass is going to hit somebody.
911
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:57,480
We know he's going to hit
somebody.
912
00:53:57,840 --> 00:53:59,720
We need you to cover a little
bit too, buddy.
913
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:04,320
But you're going.
To go lay somebody out, try to
914
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,040
hit them like in the stomach or
something.
915
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,160
Don't go helmet to helmet.
We need you to stay in the game
916
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:12,080
well.
What we don't need this year
917
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,440
like that, like we thought we
were going to need last year is
918
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,400
quite as many safeties in the
room.
919
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,880
So because I mean, this is this
is going to go back to kind of
920
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:24,040
that hybrid 43 again, you're
going to, you don't very much be
921
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,720
looking at just two safeties on
the field at any given time.
922
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:32,120
You know, you got some position
fluidity with that star
923
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:36,480
position.
You know, does a guy like Bass
924
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:40,200
end up, you know, moving back
into a star position after after
925
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:44,400
that?
I don't know who knows at this
926
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:48,640
point, but you know, is it, I
think I think we've got enough
927
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:52,640
guys in that safety room whether
we feel really good about
928
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:57,560
everybody top to bottom that
like I said, that remains to be
929
00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:59,160
seen.
I think everybody that's in that
930
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:03,160
room, you know, there's, there's
nobody in there that I don't
931
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:07,040
like a little bit, but I I wish
we'd have got somebody else to
932
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:10,160
maybe level up to run with Q in
that starting to.
933
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:18,040
OK, take a picture of that,
everybody.
934
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:21,720
Hey, me and Chris have talked
about this a little bit.
935
00:55:21,720 --> 00:55:24,960
And I, I said, I said what I
said and he said what he said
936
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,120
and I, I think we're going to
figure out which way it goes.
937
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:30,680
So I, I hope he's right.
Honestly, I hope he's right.
938
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:32,240
You don't think he's right?
No Brown.
939
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:36,080
I don't know that he's right.
I don't know that I'm right.
940
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,000
I don't know that I'm right.
I don't know that I'm right,
941
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,720
though.
I, I just being honest, like I,
942
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:47,240
I, I think that, you know, a lot
of this is going to depend on
943
00:55:47,240 --> 00:55:49,400
how available Q is throughout
the year.
944
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:53,880
If Q is available, I feel a
whole lot better about this unit
945
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,800
in general, right?
If he if he plays at least 10 or
946
00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:00,040
11 games this year, I feel a
whole lot better about that
947
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,120
unit.
You know what makes any.
948
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:06,200
You might know what makes any
secondary looks good or look
949
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:11,360
better than it is dominant
defensive line, something we
950
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,280
didn't.
Have pass rush a good.
951
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,720
Pass rush, we could not get the
quarterback on the ground.
952
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,840
Not saying that having those
guys in the back is not going to
953
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:22,280
help, but we need them to be
able to go get Pete you.
954
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:24,320
Know what else make safeties
look good?
955
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:28,040
What good run fits from
everybody else so they can just
956
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:33,680
clean up the fucking mess.
Oh, man, get get Brian.
957
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,920
Listen, listen, you don't want
to go with Brian.
958
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:39,520
Go a couple years ago, get Brian
about four drinks in and talk
959
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,760
about safety run fits and what
we had for a couple years about
960
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:49,280
made Brian lose his damned mind.
Safety safeties look real good
961
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:52,920
when they can attack the spill
area and there's not this much
962
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:57,040
fucking space for them to have
to play with, or they're having
963
00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:02,280
to run up and the guy's already
5 yards north of the line of
964
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:04,600
scrimmage and they're kind of on
an island.
965
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:07,480
Safeties look a lot better when
they can do stuff like that.
966
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:14,280
100% All right, one last room to
look at and this one I just want
967
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:18,560
to throw it out in general
because as of right now, only
968
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:25,240
one portal addition, it was Keon
Wiley guy who was getting looks
969
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:30,640
back in 23 got injured in 24
when Tony Rojas went down.
970
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,320
He basically took the back hat
or took the back half of the
971
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:36,240
year and played pretty damn
good.
972
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:39,800
So Keon Wiley along with I'm
gonna make sure I get this right
973
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:44,080
if I miss somebody, Noah's back
gave back and just the other
974
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,880
day, Caleb Spencer's back who
led the team in tackles.
975
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:52,600
Just in general, if if y'all
have done more reading or
976
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,160
looking on Wiley, how do you
feel about him?
977
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:57,520
And then how do y'all think
about this whole group?
978
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:03,480
I think Wiley's solid.
I think Wiley's definitely going
979
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:09,840
to come in and, and, and be a a
good player for us.
980
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:16,480
But I'm probably the most
excited about, I can't even say
981
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:20,960
the most excited.
Caleb Spencer is a doll, you
982
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,320
know, 100%.
I think he kind of got
983
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,520
overlooked for whatever reason,
even leading the team in
984
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:27,920
tackles.
Everybody talked about everybody
985
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:31,760
else on the defense except him.
I was even about to do it right
986
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:33,920
now because I was about to say
I'm most excited about Noah
987
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,800
Chambers.
It's just because of watching
988
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:40,840
him go out raw and play football
was fun.
989
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:46,080
You can see him try to get to
the ball and get to the ball.
990
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:50,280
It was like poetry in motion,
you know, just watching him play
991
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:54,680
because you just seen he has the
natural ability to go and be a
992
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:57,560
guy.
So very excited about him.
993
00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:02,160
But Caleb Spencer, man Caleb
Spencer is a like he's a
994
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:07,000
undersized linebacker that does
not play like he's undersized.
995
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:12,600
He will go and a heart of a line
put his nose in any dogpile.
996
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:16,880
So that room is going to be fun
to see.
997
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:22,400
You know what we can do there.
But again, that is also a room
998
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:26,040
that injuries can derail that
room really quickly.
999
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:30,120
So I would be interested to see
if they don't try to grab
1000
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:34,800
another piece or two there or
have somebody else ready to go.
1001
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:41,920
Yeah.
I mean, look at looking at
1002
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,440
what's coming back, obviously.
You know.
1003
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:50,240
You can't say enough about Noah.
Yeah, I feel like he's going to
1004
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:53,880
be the emotional heart of that
unit.
1005
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:57,040
He's going to be the guy that
that that's kind of bringing the
1006
00:59:57,040 --> 01:00:01,600
juice.
Yeah, at the same time you got,
1007
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:04,440
you got Caleb Spencer, you got
Gabe coming back from injury
1008
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:06,760
fully.
Now we'll see what another
1009
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:08,760
offseason in the in the weight
program.
1010
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:12,160
You know, that's as far as his
build and frame filling out is
1011
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:16,800
concerned.
I think you'd still like to pick
1012
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:20,640
up one more piece here, like if
if we're circling.
1013
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:24,320
For circling the the positions
that I feel like we still got
1014
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:29,640
some work to do, I'd like one
more offensive lineman, I'd like
1015
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:34,400
one more linebacker.
I think, I think if I'd I'd take
1016
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:36,840
one more at each of those
positions before I take a
1017
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:38,080
safety.
Kind of going back to the
1018
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:41,520
previous question, I'd rather
have one more linebacker, one
1019
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:43,960
more offensive lineman before
I'd get a safety in house.
1020
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:50,680
Let me say this for Curtis Go.
Y'all know I've been trying to
1021
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:53,440
be dignified, but I got to ask a
question.
1022
01:00:54,440 --> 01:01:02,280
Who looked at Brett Platterbaum
and said you're 6 to 240, we
1023
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:04,080
going to put you on the
defensive line.
1024
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:06,680
Brett Pry.
I'm going to tell you right now
1025
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:10,440
buddy, you better act right this
year.
1026
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:14,400
I've been trying to be cool.
I ain't going to say what I've
1027
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:18,520
been saying in the chat, but
Brett, you better get it
1028
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:21,680
together.
I don't know why Clatter Bomb
1029
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:25,920
was moved to the defensive line
when he's a linebacker.
1030
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:31,920
He's a from from all intents and
purposes, he was a All state
1031
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:35,880
linebacker and looks like a
linebacker.
1032
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:38,760
He looks like the most Virginia
Tech linebacker that he is.
1033
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:43,920
I mean, go pull a picture up of
Brett Clatterbaum and tell me,
1034
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:46,200
does he look like he's supposed
to be on Virginia Tech's
1035
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:48,920
defensive line or is he supposed
to be on Virginia Tech's
1036
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:51,960
linebacker room?
Linebacker room, Supposed to be
1037
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:53,480
in the linebacker room.
Brett.
1038
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:57,360
Bret, you better get it right.
I got a lot of names I want to
1039
01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:59,560
call this year.
Don't make me use them.
1040
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:03,680
It's loaded, this gun loaded
over here with all kinds of
1041
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:05,960
names.
Pickle Rick.
1042
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:13,080
All peanuts in they.
They know you better act right.
1043
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:15,000
Let's go.
But I'm better.
1044
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:16,760
Go ahead.
No, no, no.
1045
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:19,440
I mean, I think y'all kind of
laid it out to linebacker room.
1046
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:23,880
I think Noah, Noah's special.
I think having a guy like Keon
1047
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:27,600
who's played in it, it's more of
the calm presence.
1048
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:30,280
You know, he's probably going to
know where to do what to go.
1049
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:34,840
And again, Caleb Spencer, you
said he's a dog, does not get
1050
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:37,720
the credit he's deserved.
Made so many plays the last
1051
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:40,040
couple years that are
unheralded.
1052
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:44,040
So we shall see.
All right, real quick.
1053
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:46,320
And actually, I know there's
some folks out in the chat.
1054
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:49,600
I want to hear at least
everybody's this so that
1055
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:54,480
everybody who left anybody you
hated to see leave.
1056
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:01,200
This is to us or you waiting on
the.
1057
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:03,680
Chap can put their stuff out
there too.
1058
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:07,080
I'll talk about I.
Would I would probably say just
1059
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:14,560
me looking at it, Isaiah Spencer
and I thought he had a lot of
1060
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:17,880
upside, kind of got a raw deal
of not being able to get the
1061
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:21,880
ball thrown to you.
But I think that Isaiah Spencer
1062
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:24,520
was more of a ain't going to say
hate to see him go because I
1063
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:30,520
think we're OK in that room.
But I wasn't expecting him to
1064
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:33,720
leave.
So that one threw me for a
1065
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:38,760
little bit of a loop.
Came by Brian.
1066
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:44,760
I mean, probably Cam Selden,
yeah.
1067
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:48,880
I like seeing what he was able
to do with kind of a limited
1068
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:54,960
receiving package last year.
It wasn't exactly what you
1069
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:57,160
wanted to see from that
perspective, but he was able to
1070
01:03:57,160 --> 01:04:01,920
do some some really good work in
some some limited action not
1071
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:05,000
getting the targets I think he
probably needed in the offense.
1072
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:10,680
Sounds like that's more of a of
a square peg round hole as far
1073
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:14,000
as what we want him to do, what
he wants to do from a position
1074
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:18,520
standpoint going forward.
You know, if he, if he's looking
1075
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:21,680
to be more running back, I think
we're all, we're all set at that
1076
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:28,680
position based on, you know
what, what Hawk can do, what JOJ
1077
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:32,040
can do.
Yeah.
1078
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:34,320
I think his skill set, there's,
there's too much overlap with
1079
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:37,920
those two guys for him to really
make any, any noise in that
1080
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:40,120
position.
So I think it's just kind of a
1081
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:42,920
mismatch situation.
But I just I, I like the way he
1082
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:45,080
plays.
He's physical, he runs hard.
1083
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:51,880
Yeah, he he, he makes the plays.
So losing a guy like that kind
1084
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:54,400
of hurts a little bit, but but
since we're talking about guys
1085
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:56,560
leaving, Curtis, I'll let you
I'll let you jump in with yours
1086
01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:59,520
in the second.
Who is that?
1087
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:04,120
Who is this?
Who is it?
1088
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:06,360
Isaiah Spencer.
Isaiah Spencer.
1089
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:08,720
Spencer went to Old Miss.
Yep, Yep.
1090
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:10,920
Yeah, he got in and got out
quick, huh?
1091
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:13,960
Yeah, he was in and out, yeah.
Damn.
1092
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:18,120
He must, he must have had that,
that that qualified offer ready
1093
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:23,480
to go.
What's everybody's thoughts on
1094
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:27,560
Christian Ellis and and the UVA
situation?
1095
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:33,880
That's my thoughts on yeah, one
game, man.
1096
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:36,600
I mean no disrespect to the kid.
Yeah, one game.
1097
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:38,760
Then you go to the OPS.
You know what I'm saying?
1098
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:42,160
You could have went anywhere in
the world, but you went to the
1099
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:43,680
OPS.
You went there?
1100
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:44,760
You went there?
Yeah.
1101
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:48,000
We got to spit on your grave.
Hospital.
1102
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:51,760
Hey man, I'm.
Gonna go with that.
1103
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:54,920
Funny because I thought for a
second he announced he was going
1104
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:59,840
to UVA like what, a week ago,
almost almost two weeks ago?
1105
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:02,440
Like right out the gate he go
down like that that came out.
1106
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:06,120
And happy to go to UVA Boy.
That that that official
1107
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:11,360
announcement took a long time.
It took a long time for that to
1108
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:12,920
work out.
So I don't know if that was a,
1109
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:16,160
you know, make sure we got the
numbers before we say you get in
1110
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:20,480
the boat type of deal or what it
was, but I got interested.
1111
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:26,680
Why y'all dance around this?
Because it's it's Caleb Woodson
1112
01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:29,800
is the interesting one.
Because how many times this
1113
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:35,560
program, this program not
anybody else that the day Caleb
1114
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:39,160
came out it was like that kids
underrated that kids a baller
1115
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:44,360
and and everybody by the way,
Tally, I really want your people
1116
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:47,240
in Alabama to go through like a
four and eight season.
1117
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:48,480
They'd kill each other down
there.
1118
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:52,400
They'd be people murdered.
Why don't you want them to just
1119
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:53,520
to see them misery?
I live here.
1120
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:56,440
Shit, I want my house to get
looted.
1121
01:06:57,800 --> 01:06:59,120
But but.
Seriously.
1122
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:00,960
Our kids in here, man.
Yeah, you do.
1123
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:05,360
You understand it is when we
lose, when Virginia Tech loses.
1124
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:08,120
It's normal.
Like people don't we go on
1125
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:10,400
Twitter and go on spaces and
stuff like that.
1126
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:13,760
These people go and run their
cars into fucking Target and
1127
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:16,240
stuff.
They do some crazy stuff down
1128
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:19,800
here when Alabama ain't good.
Dude, I was on a cruise.
1129
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:23,120
I was on the cruise when Georgia
and Alabama played.
1130
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:26,400
It was an old man.
I know.
1131
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:28,840
It ruined this trip.
I thought he was going to drown
1132
01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:34,120
himself in the pool.
That mug said, I'm going to bed.
1133
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:38,880
Roll Tide took his drink, threw
it in the trash, almost pushed
1134
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:41,440
his wife down.
I was like, Jesus, all right.
1135
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:44,400
But they they on a different
level down here.
1136
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:48,120
Listen, Caleb Woodson, more
power to you, man.
1137
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:51,240
I hope he goes to Alabama.
I think that it's going to help
1138
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:54,000
Caleb Woodson if he goes down
there and he gets focused like
1139
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:57,200
Monsoor Duane did.
He went to LSU and he got
1140
01:07:57,200 --> 01:07:59,840
focused.
I think Caleb Woodson was
1141
01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:04,240
complacent at Virginia Tech.
I think that Pry and the
1142
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:07,520
coaching staff allowed him to do
some things that he probably
1143
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:10,120
shouldn't have did.
Us as a fan base probably
1144
01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:12,680
allowed him to do some things
that he shouldn't have did and
1145
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:14,520
maybe not play up his to his
potential.
1146
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:18,800
But oh buddy, you better bet
your what you say your big ass,
1147
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:20,279
big sweet ass, whatever you
said.
1148
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:25,160
You better bet that fat, you bet
your big fat, you better bet
1149
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:28,560
your big fat ass when he go to
Alabama and he mess up, you
1150
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:32,359
going to know it if he messes
up, I hope he don't.
1151
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:38,680
But if you go to Alabama and you
miss a tackle, it's going to be
1152
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:40,200
bad, man.
It's going to be.
1153
01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:43,080
They.
They they want Caleb, the board.
1154
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:45,640
They don't even want him to
coach in college football no
1155
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:47,399
more.
He went to the playoffs.
1156
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:50,720
And Went to the playoff, 110
games.
1157
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:54,399
They want him out.
Won a playoff game.
1158
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:55,680
Fire him.
Fire him.
1159
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:57,200
They want him fire.
They hate him.
1160
01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:00,240
They're calling Kaylin the
whore.
1161
01:09:01,359 --> 01:09:02,720
Jeez.
Jeez.
1162
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:08,560
Craziness all right well that
does wrap that.
1163
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:13,080
I mean I, I we thought about
coming on last week, but it was
1164
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:15,319
like it's just not enough give
it a week.
1165
01:09:15,319 --> 01:09:18,240
We're going to probably have a
full picture of what's going on
1166
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:21,560
and you know it's good to see
it.
1167
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:27,040
So next is going to be the brain
trust here along with Shelton.
1168
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:28,800
By the way, Shelton's not here
tonight.
1169
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:34,600
They Shelton is so esteemed from
this program his his alma mater,
1170
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:38,680
high school alma mater allows
him to be the primary speaker at
1171
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:42,520
functions now, just just in case
y'all wonder where Shelton's at
1172
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:46,600
tonight, but let's flip to this
couple news notes.
1173
01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:50,000
First of all, spring game
announced today, April 18th.
1174
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:51,920
I don't think that's a shock to
anybody.
1175
01:09:53,319 --> 01:09:56,320
Already got my hotel room.
Did you pay $600?
1176
01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:58,640
I did not.
Did you pay a significant
1177
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:00,440
amount?
I did not.
1178
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:03,480
Oh, that's good.
You call, you call our buddy.
1179
01:10:03,480 --> 01:10:05,600
Is that why you?
Guys, I got in.
1180
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:07,520
I got in before the rates went
up apparently.
1181
01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:14,440
Damn nice.
April 18th Brian's clearly gone.
1182
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:18,200
I am going to try this year to
go hey.
1183
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:21,640
James said.
We we need to fill lane man, you
1184
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:23,280
better be.
There we need to fill lane I'm.
1185
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:26,640
Going to try to get up in now.
I know it's going to be a lot of
1186
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:30,080
festivities going on, so I'm
going to try to be that issue.
1187
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:35,960
I am going to try to be there.
Well, second piece of news, we
1188
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:38,800
knew it was going to happen.
We anticipated this and it
1189
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:40,720
actually makes sense of why it's
this.
1190
01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:47,560
JMU is pulled off the schedule
for 2026 Tech Obviously,
1191
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:50,480
everybody knows Virginia Tech
was one of the teams that's
1192
01:10:50,480 --> 01:10:52,640
going to be playing nine games
this year, not 8.
1193
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:55,800
Let's not get into that because
that's a whole nother story.
1194
01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:59,720
And it seemed like the only open
week was legitimately that week.
1195
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:17,840
I'm not shocked by it, but hey,
I mean, there's no shocking
1196
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:21,760
whatsoever that that's the game
that that.
1197
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:24,920
Yeah.
Yeah.
1198
01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:29,120
Are you shot by Brown?
Did I mean you?
1199
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:32,320
You're the one that I think
pushed at least a few weeks ago
1200
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:35,880
that you wanted like, screw it,
let's play them and stop from
1201
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:40,320
playing, OK?
I mean, I get it's a no win
1202
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:43,320
situation for Virginia Tech, but
it's no win situation regardless
1203
01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:46,080
of you play.
I, I would have liked to see
1204
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:50,960
the, the better match up
considering how weak the overall
1205
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:54,400
schedule is for me.
If you're replacing A-Team,
1206
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:57,200
replace VMI.
But that being said, I mean,
1207
01:11:57,840 --> 01:11:59,960
you, you were going to replace
one of those or the other.
1208
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:06,040
I I saw somebody, I think it was
Billy Ray tweet, you know,
1209
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:09,600
regardless of who you play week
1 BMI be you're going to have
1210
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:11,880
you're going to have juice in
the stadium for that first game
1211
01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:14,240
under James Franklin.
So it that kind of doesn't
1212
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:19,680
really matter.
You know, I think the only thing
1213
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:23,600
is that you give you give the
the the the dumbasses that are
1214
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:28,280
JMU fans a little bit extra
fodder now to to kind of throw
1215
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:30,720
in your face that you didn't
have before.
1216
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:33,920
It's like, OK, well, you got rid
of you got rid of this game.
1217
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:38,160
You know, everybody's still
trying to talk about, you know,
1218
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:41,240
the, the, the time they got us.
And I get that like it is what
1219
01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:45,280
it is, but at the end of the day
I would I would I still like to
1220
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:48,440
see the better match up, but I
get why they went this
1221
01:12:48,440 --> 01:12:50,320
direction.
Right.
1222
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:55,040
Now understood.
All right, last piece I want to
1223
01:12:55,040 --> 01:13:04,160
discuss and use the notes is and
I feel like it it came out our
1224
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:06,520
friend Robbie was down at the
conference and he heard about
1225
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:09,360
it.
But they're the the college
1226
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:13,000
football D1 coaches have all
voted and approved and this will
1227
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:19,280
go back to the NCAA obviously
that you can now red shirt and
1228
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:26,120
play 9 games.
Why not?
1229
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:35,320
We got 37 y'alls playing.
I mean it's all effed up anyway.
1230
01:13:35,440 --> 01:13:38,840
Why not let them let them let
them play and then red shirt if
1231
01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:43,120
that's what they want to do?
Brian, you got another thought
1232
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:43,600
on this.
Don't.
1233
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:45,480
You, I got AI, got AI, got a
different thought.
1234
01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:48,120
If you're going to do 9 games,
just just go ahead and give them
1235
01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:54,960
the fifth year.
I don't, I don't think that I
1236
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:57,120
don't like the idea that you've
got to start.
1237
01:13:57,120 --> 01:14:00,840
If you're giving them nine
games, you might as well just
1238
01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:02,360
let them play the rest of the
year out.
1239
01:14:03,480 --> 01:14:06,200
I, I don't want to have a, a
really great freshman that
1240
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:10,320
starts the year and now all of a
sudden I've got to sit them out
1241
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:13,120
three games that matter in a, in
a conference, you know,
1242
01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:16,040
championship situation where,
where we can still win out.
1243
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:18,720
And, and they've been a, a key
role player in the, in the team
1244
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:20,640
all year.
I don't want to have to make
1245
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:28,000
that decision.
At the same time, I get I get
1246
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:31,960
that red shirting is still you
want red shirting to still be a
1247
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:34,400
thing.
And and and if that's if that's
1248
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:37,960
what you're trying to do, this
is the half measure for that to
1249
01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:41,560
still be able to have a full red
shirt and not go to a a true 5th
1250
01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:46,920
year, then I guess this is fine.
But it it feels like 1/2
1251
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:50,040
measure.
I thought four games was good.
1252
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:54,560
If you want to still have the
idea of a red shirt, 9 feels
1253
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:58,640
like going so far without going
far enough if if you will.
1254
01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:04,520
Yeah, I mean, I'm OK with it
because we've seen things happen
1255
01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:09,760
where you plan on red shirting
the guy right in Game 6 and
1256
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:11,880
catastrophic stuff happens and
it's like, well, they got to
1257
01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:16,440
play and you're like, they don't
have to play regardless.
1258
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:19,640
But now he loses his red shirt,
he really shouldn't be playing.
1259
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:22,080
That's where I see the benefit
of it.
1260
01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:25,120
Also.
I see the benefit of it because
1261
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:26,840
Brian, you're talking about the
beginning season.
1262
01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:30,920
We're now seeing what's the most
important games of the season.
1263
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:33,760
It's your conference games.
Because if you go run through
1264
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:36,400
your conference at 9 and O and
you get to your championship
1265
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:37,960
game, that's all that matters
now.
1266
01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:40,640
And that's all that's going to
matter in the future.
1267
01:15:41,480 --> 01:15:44,240
Because in my opinion, I think
within the next two years we're
1268
01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:47,600
going to 16 teams and it's
probably going to be regardless
1269
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:50,840
who the Champions are, the top 4
conferences they're going to get
1270
01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:56,240
in.
So, you know, but but you made a
1271
01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:58,720
point, you and Robbie with Chad,
me and you, Robbie with Chad and
1272
01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:00,160
the other day.
And it's just like, well, fuck
1273
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:04,840
it, just make it 5 years
eligibility because I didn't
1274
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:06,800
graduate in three years or four
years.
1275
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:08,360
Brian, did you graduate in four
years?
1276
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:09,160
I.
Did not.
1277
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:14,320
Did you graduate in four years?
If you and the Chad graduated in
1278
01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:17,200
four years, please let us know
because it's something like like
1279
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:19,360
what?
58% of people don't graduate in
1280
01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:23,240
four years, so the majority of
the student body does not
1281
01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:25,680
graduate in four years.
Maybe we should just say screw
1282
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:28,320
it you get 5 years.
Maybe this will end stupid
1283
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:31,520
Chandler Morris, Diego Pavi and
all those dumbasses.
1284
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:33,280
Hey can I get another
eligibility?
1285
01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:39,680
You 26 go get a job, go to the
league, go to the UFM, go to
1286
01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:46,480
Europe, do something just stop.
What else y'all want to talk
1287
01:16:46,480 --> 01:16:51,320
about?
X up 6, 15 minutes left to go in
1288
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:53,760
1/2.
Let's keep that up because you
1289
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:56,200
know, we've seen them give up
some leads this year.
1290
01:16:56,600 --> 01:17:00,520
So what do we want to talk about
last week that was shitty?
1291
01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:06,080
That wouldn't hurt, that
wouldn't, that wouldn't burn the
1292
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:08,000
asshole.
That one didn't burn the
1293
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:11,680
asshole.
All sorts of good things.
1294
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:15,720
Y'all can sound clips.
Cal, you got anything else you
1295
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:19,080
want to talk about other than we
ain't got a safeties coach?
1296
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:22,560
We too much since Jane Franklin
got high, we ain't got safety.
1297
01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:24,240
Coach we don't got a safeties
coach.
1298
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:27,200
We need a safeties coach.
But guess what?
1299
01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:29,760
We got James, we're going to be
high.
1300
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:32,360
He going to figure it out.
Not saying we don't need no
1301
01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:34,000
safety coach.
James, you got to get a safety
1302
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:38,000
coach and keep your eye on
Brenton Still.
1303
01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:41,560
Watching, I think he had a guy
he wanted but he got wrapped up
1304
01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:46,280
in that more shenanigans.
Well, listen, listen.
1305
01:17:46,440 --> 01:17:50,200
Me and Tally talked on the phone
today because, Brian, you shared
1306
01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:53,240
that with us.
And y'all, it's it's stuff out
1307
01:17:53,240 --> 01:17:53,960
there.
You can find it.
1308
01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:58,240
But me and Tyler made the point,
like, if this was three years
1309
01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:01,680
from now and James Franklin was
something like 32 and six, we
1310
01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:03,680
wouldn't give a shit.
Like, Nope, I don't care.
1311
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:05,720
Hire, hire and bring them in.
Who cares?
1312
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:08,000
This is the beginning.
You can't do it at the
1313
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:10,080
beginning.
You can't.
1314
01:18:10,480 --> 01:18:15,560
So what else?
Stick it in back?
1315
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:22,880
We hope so, yeah.
Today is Tuesday, Chris.
1316
01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:25,440
So next Tuesday.
Today is Wednesday.
1317
01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:28,080
Oh y'all see This is why I
messed up.
1318
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:33,360
I'm a day behind So what is it?
Does he mean Thursday then?
1319
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:35,680
No, I think.
He's the math.
1320
01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:37,840
The math The math is going crazy
right now.
1321
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:39,880
Yeah, it's all sorts of crazy
shit.
1322
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:42,120
We all think it's going on
Monday night.
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01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:47,040
I think Indiana's going to smoke
them, but if they.
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01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:50,160
Martin Luther King, guy.
If Miami can win the line of
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01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:54,640
scrimmage, then if it could be a
good game, but if they can't,
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01:18:54,960 --> 01:19:00,160
it's going to be over quick.
I didn't realize Indiana had the
1327
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:04,520
whole team full of 30 year olds.
Pretty much 5th, 6th year guys.
1328
01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:08,880
Man, it's going to be hard, man.
Sigmet, he's got it going.
1329
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:13,920
He does and they are well
coached.
1330
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:16,800
They're smart again.
They're old so they listen.
1331
01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:19,680
They probably ain't going out
wasting all their money and
1332
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:23,640
doing dumb shit.
Yes, Jim, that's what that's
1333
01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:27,480
what the whispers are at this
point that that we've.
1334
01:19:27,480 --> 01:19:30,120
Heard so I don't believe nobody
no more Jim.
1335
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:32,960
I don't never know.
I'm just for the ride.
1336
01:19:33,480 --> 01:19:37,000
I'm just alone for the ride.
This, this is what I'll say and
1337
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:40,560
I talked with a a guy about it
at work the other day.
1338
01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:44,280
The one chance Miami has and you
can still not on here.
1339
01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:47,440
Miami's got to come out with
that first job and absolutely
1340
01:19:47,440 --> 01:19:52,720
establish and I'm talking like
NFL type 789 minute drive just
1341
01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:56,080
to say this is going to be a
slow pace game.
1342
01:19:56,120 --> 01:20:02,640
We're not going to do dumb shit
because Indiana had like 2
1343
01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:08,960
games, has had two games where
they looked uncomfortable too.
1344
01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:11,840
They looked uncomfortable at
Ohio State.
1345
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:15,280
Luckily that some bitch can't
kick a field goal in the Oregon
1346
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:18,640
original Oregon game.
Miami's upside there.
1347
01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:21,960
It's a home game.
It's a home game.
1348
01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:24,760
There's going to be somebody in
Miami so on on half the state of
1349
01:20:24,760 --> 01:20:27,720
Indiana after kickoff because
they're going to sell them
1350
01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:29,560
tickets for 100,000.
They're going to buy.
1351
01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:34,000
All right, let's see, what's the
current?
1352
01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:37,160
Still up six.
Y'all got anything else before
1353
01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:43,000
we And there you go, Penn State
took him to the toe tap.
1354
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:47,280
It's true.
Y'all got anything else boys?
1355
01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:49,600
I'm good, I'm good.
Bro.
1356
01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:52,680
Well, appreciate everybody in
the chat tonight.
1357
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:55,560
I see some familiar faces, some
new names.
1358
01:20:55,840 --> 01:20:57,760
Always throw your opinions in
there.
1359
01:20:57,760 --> 01:20:59,720
If it's good enough, they'll
make it on the screen.
1360
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:02,320
If it's good enough, it may not
make it on the screen.
1361
01:21:02,320 --> 01:21:05,720
Because if you say it early, if
you say good stuff too early,
1362
01:21:05,720 --> 01:21:09,680
and when we ain't talking about
that right away, a lot of times
1363
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:12,080
I don't feel like scrolling back
up because that means we got to
1364
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:15,280
find it.
So wait until we're talking.
1365
01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:18,080
Sometimes I make a note,
sometimes I make a note.
1366
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:21,840
So if you have what you think is
a good question, we're going to
1367
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:23,880
talk about it.
Hold it until we are talking
1368
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:27,360
about it, please, please,
because we'll try to inform you
1369
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:31,040
that it's coming later.
So keep it, keep it in the
1370
01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:32,680
chamber.
I do like to throw the.
1371
01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:35,880
Teasers out there.
But anyway, let's wrap up this
1372
01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:40,560
episode 1, season 7 of the
Boundary Corner podcast.
1373
01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:43,800
But to you the the moments on
Memorial in Lexington.
1374
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:46,000
I'm Curtis Wilson.
I'm Brian Siegler.
1375
01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:49,080
Jonathan Taylor.
We are part of the College
1376
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:52,040
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Visit boundarycornerbt.com to
1377
01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:55,120
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1378
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:58,640
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01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:03,080
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1380
01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:06,080
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We are on every podcast source
1381
01:22:06,080 --> 01:22:08,440
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1382
01:22:08,440 --> 01:22:11,440
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He plays us out.
1383
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:14,480
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1384
01:22:14,480 --> 01:22:17,720
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01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:25,120
Also there check out where he is
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1387
01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:27,320
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1388
01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:29,920
listening tonight, and as
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