Gauging Depth with Mike McDaniel

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Welcome back to the boundary
Corner Podcast Thursday night,

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man, that thirsty, Thursday,
Thursday, Thursday, buddy.

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We back at it again.
Back at it again, it's Thursday.

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I think we can say Braun summer
is officially here.

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I don't know, I think so.
I think so we had a weekend

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there of rain and some cooler
weather weather but turned

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around for us.
I think we're looking pretty

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good, man.
Absolutely.

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I mean this weekend looks great.
Going to be like mid 80s.

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Probably hit the pool up one
day.

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You know, get the kids outside.
Have a lot of good phone about

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you.
Well, hold on.

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Congratulations, Brian.
Thank you gradually, folks,

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Brian this week, put a contract
on a house.

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Something he is, then he and his
wife and his family have been

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working for last really year,
man.

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And you texted me, like, I'm
already like doing this.

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I'm like, ooh, Brian we get to
design your man cave.

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Got the bank, a we got the
double deck on the back, so I'm

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pumped, it's going to be a going
to be a good time once we

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finally get in there.
So closing, Probably by the end

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of the month.
So looking forward to a buddy.

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Awesome.
Whoops.

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Tonight, we're actually bringing
on a special guest Mike McDaniel

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from the sons of Saturday's
going to be joining us here in

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just a second and we are going
to be looking at the Hokie depth

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chart given it some grades
talking through it with Mike

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about where we're seeing what
he's saying for this upcoming

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20, 21 Seasons.
So without further ado, Let's

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have Mike.
Come on.

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Hey Mike.
How you doing tonight?

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Supports, we are having a good
Thursday here.

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Good.
Like I said I've got some

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drinks.
Enjoying the nice weather we've

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had today.
How about you got my bourbon

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just for the occasional
gentlemen.

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Yes sir, here we go Mike that's
really weird like currently good

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things with your Boston teams
today the Sox took care of

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Houston 521 Bruins up 1-nothing.
I got that in the Islanders on

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the TV here.
Me too.

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Not a fun day, not a fun week
for basketball.

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I don't.
Yeah, don't even don't even get

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started, man.
It was a, it was a brutal season

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for my Celtics.
I was hoping that they put

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something together in the
playoffs and then they before

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the first series happens or they
are Jalen Browns out for the

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year.
I'm like, all right, well, we

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don't have a prayer against the
Nets and then all year, they

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have Kemba Walker resting on the
second night of back to backs

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and they were like, all right,
this is so he'll be ready for

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the playoffs, and you won't be
hurt.

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Hurt and lo and behold he gets
hurt in the playoffs.

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I'm like, man if they had just
played him on the second night

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of back-to-back.
We probably avoid the Nets in

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round 1 but there you go.
Yeah, all hell.

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Broke lose Inge retires and Brad
Stevens is.

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Now president of basketball
operations, I'm not even sure

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he's even qualified for so total
mass.

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I've no idea what's going to
happen and they just put a

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complete bomb to it once once
everything went South, man.

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Oh yeah, I just I'm a die-hard
Celtics fan, so it was really

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hard season for me.
So wait a second, is the?

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So the Kendrick Perkins is the
fake thing.

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I saw that in like it's Perkins
even coaching immediately

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immediately check to see if he
account was fake because I was

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like, wait a second.
Kevin Curtis is now this is not

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right to not happen.
Italy is not qualified for

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basketball Lobster, you tired,
Kendrick Perkins as head coach.

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So go get not only drinking
bourbon just to have us a good

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time tonight.
He's he's soaking a little miss

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Zuri.
Yeah.

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I mean it's the waiting all week
for that drink boys.

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There we go.
It's all of us, man.

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I mean, hey, but hey like I told
Brian before we you joined us

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summer is here.
8, being the highest confidence

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of where we feel all three of us
and then we're going to talk

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about it.
Look at depth things.

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I see things Brian sees
obviously things, Mike sees and

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let's let's jump right into it
and let's start with these

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literally most important
position.

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For the Hokies, you know, really
since 1995.

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Let's start with the
quarterback.

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Mike I'm going to let you have
the honors since you are wearing

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your pilot's hat there, one
through eight.

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What's your confidence level?
First of all for the quarterback

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room depth-wise.
All right.

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Well I mean this is a lot of
this depends on you know the

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health of Braxton Burmeister
because if he gets hurt prophets

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plummets and Not if it's, when
voice right look for.

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See a lot of quarterback Powers,
man.

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I get it, like, I get it.
They're trying to put weight on

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them and, you know, they, he
wants to be, you know, in a

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better spot health-wise so that
he can carry a brunt of the load

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at the quarterback position.
And we know Brad cornelison

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loves to run his quarterbacks.
I just man, I am nervous about

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it, man.
I'm nervous about it.

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I just, I think Burmeister is a
Capable quarterback.

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You know, I think when he was
healthy towards the end of last

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year, we saw what he was capable
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Certainly had a really good game
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He's very athletic can run very
well.

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I was surprised at how, well, he
threw the ball.

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The last couple times, we saw
him last year and I'm willing to

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chalk up the beginning of the
year and his struggles to you.

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No one being kind of thrown into
the fire or two.

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We knew he was banged up, he was
banged up in Fall camp and then

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he's playing a bit hobbled.
And thrown into kind of a tough

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situation there.
And you know what, I think just

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was honestly Justin Fuente as
quarterback going into the year

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last year.
It's not something I believed at

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the time but it's something that
you know as the year went on you

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know I feel like if Burmeister
was a little bit more healthy.

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I think that Fuente would have
considered going back to him

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earlier than he did handed
hooker.

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Did not have a good year last
year and I love tendon hooker.

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I like when Burmeister
displaying early and you know,

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it was clear, he wasn't Right.
I was thinking, man, it we got

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to get hooker back and then, you
know, understood that with the

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covid, everything else?
You know that was the reasoning

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behind him, not playing early in
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Burmeister.
I think he has an opportunity to

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play.
Well, if he's able to stay on

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the field, I give this a
confidence of like a for though,

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like right in the middle because
I feel like there is upside

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there, but I am very concerned
because the depth is just not

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where it needs to be Knocks
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Admirable effort against
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He's not a power.
Five quarterback, at least not

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in the starting capacity.
Connor blumrich wasn't even a

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quarterback at A&M.
I don't know what they're even

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doing there.
He can't be really considered a

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legitimate that piece in my
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I mean he wasn't playing
quarterback and am he was moving

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all around the field and then
didn't see him as a quarterback.

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I'd get they had Kellen Monde
but you know, if he's not even

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capable the backup role there,
why is he a backup at Virginia

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Tech and Taj Bullock is true
freshman like yeah there's a

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true freshman especially one
that wasn't here for spring

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practice.
It wasn't like Bullock was an

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early enrollee if he was I could
see them.

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Maybe turning to him.
But the fact that he's not

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coming on campus until really
like right now makes it really

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hard for me to imagine that he
has a role plus he's a little

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bit raw.
You know what I mean?

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And you know Josh Jackson.
You guys remember when Fuente

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first got here Josh Jackson came
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And was a legitimate Contender
for a starting quarterback as a

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true freshman, you know, which
Rod Evans and there was an

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opportunity for him to for him
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Obviously did play early as a
redshirt freshman earlier than I

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think.
We all thought, yes, we can pick

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Evans was coming, was going to
come in and then leave after a

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year, but, you know, 20 is not
afraid to play young guys.

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I just don't think Bolick is
going to be in that situation to

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play early, so it's it's going
to be dicey if and when

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Burmeister dead It's hurt
because it's track record of

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staying healthy.
Is obviously not very good.

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Yeah, I'm actually a little more
pessimistic than you at this

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position and it starts and ends
with Braxton Burmeister is

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Health.
Yep.

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Because as much as we run the
football with the quarterback

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quarterback Powers, other design
runs and then some of our play

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calling in the passing game,
gives the opportunity for the

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quarterback to take off a lot.
So I just I don't feel All

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comfortable about his health and
I feel zero confidence with

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pretty much everybody behind him
more than you know, spot duty to

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like finish a game or something
like that.

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I feel like Doc's could to do
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he's starting more than one
game, I mean it's a rap.

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I mean that's that.
That's not what you want to see.

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I'm giving that that that's
going to be my lowest grade is

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good.
Grade one there solely because I

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don't trust Braxton's health and
I feel like we don't have

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anything to inspire confidence
behind him.

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What are we gonna do?
That I'm with Brian.

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It's a one that we're we're
going to have to literally go

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triple option offense, if
Braxton gets hurt, and run the

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ball, 65 times of game and same
kind of Bloomberg, run the show

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from like, listen, listen,
listen, the only reason I gave

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it a great as high as I did is
because I'm thinking

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optimistically saying he'll
start more than we expect.

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If that's not the case.
What you're saying?

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He at least gets a full, eight
games.

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You're Least a full eight games
played games, give me give me

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two thirds of the schedule and
what's this?

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Hey, that guy's we would take
that one we.

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Yeah, I mean yeah, monitoring
this situation.

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Yeah, I take a full eight games
and maybe, you know, at least

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half of to others.
The only misses two full games

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we can deal with that.
Maybe.

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Yeah, low confidence.
No confidence.

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We're super low confidence
because it's nothing behind it.

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Well actually, Himself.
He used to, if you told me

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Braxton played 12, games fully
healthy at the levels, we saw

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him near the end of last year.
I feel super good about the

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room.
Definitely, what I don't feel

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confident is.
If you guys both mentioned it,

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it's a propensity to how we run
the quarterbacks you can't, and

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you can't run Braxton General
because he's not built like

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Gerard or Josh or Hendon or
Quincy.

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He is a smaller built guy fast.
Don't get me wrong.

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Like I think I remember the
first time he pulled in that NC

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State game and he took down that
left side, it was just like,

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whoa, like he's like not only is
he had made that decision

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quickly but when he gets his
third step, he's gone.

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It's not a build-up, you know,
Quincy had to be A build-up.

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Hendon was about a five step
guy, but it's the Connor Bloomer

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of thing like how hard they went
after it seeing it made no

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sense.
Like you needed to be finding

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someone at a lower power 5, or
lower power, 5 level or a G5

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level that had started some
games to be F.

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And it's the biggest not me and
Brian talked about a lot

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sometimes owner, sometimes off
the roster management of this

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staff.
In general is terrible.

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Yep, it's terrible.
And as we get into some of these

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other spots, probably all three
of us.

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We're we're ranking our
confidence.

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You're going to see that
reflect.

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So I think we're going to get to
it at the very next one,

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actually.
Yeah.

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We are optimistic or pessimistic
cartax and Brian and one

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optimistic.
The craziest part about that is

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my optimism is like our middle
grade, you know.

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That's that's where the optimum
best case scenario.

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Hey, I'm in, I'm an optimistic
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Guy.
But I'm a thousand percent with

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you guys as far as what the
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There's no doubt about that.
By the way, for the listeners

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and for you guys, you wonder
what I was doing with the towel.

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Mike.
Your statement made me spit my

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berry out.
So I'm trying to clean it up

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here off the desk and start
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Exactly.
So let's go next let's take a

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look.
At the offensive line room.

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Mike, I am going to kick this to
Bryant is a Brian is our

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resident offensive?
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Brian.
What's your confidence?

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Great.
This just behind quarterback at

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it too and it could have been a
one if we would have had any

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semblance of a backup
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I feel okay about potentially
the first five guys we have

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meeting to new de Les of the
Smith, probably Johnny Jordan,

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some combination of Brock
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Right Guard tackle, depending on
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Them beyond that, like zero
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Absolute, no confidence, you got
Jesse Hansen, who we haven't,

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really heard a lot from kind of
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I wouldn't say underachieve but
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I think some people thought for
him you got two young guys in

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Parker Clements and Caden more.
And then you got Bob, shit

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coming in as a as a Jew.
Zuko and outside of that, like,

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it's just, it's just some guys
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And and even that second line
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like a, as we said, with
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you know, finish out a game or
maybe have a plug start for

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somebody.
Some guy that goes down for one

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game, like anything, more than
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Tyrell, Smith's damn near 30.
We had to get him out of

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retirement.
Have back and he's never really

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started a game in offense of
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I mean, it's really been special
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and that says, all you need to
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I mean, I'm, I'm at like a two
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It's, I want to be optimistic
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it's about a to like here's the
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the offensive line as currently
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that we presume will be
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I'm actually, okay with I'm a
little bit concerned about Luke

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tenuta, moving to the left
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I understand it now.
It's, you got to make that move.

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I get it.
He's our best.

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He's your best tackle.
You gotta play in there.

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I totally understand it.
He just kind of had a so-so year

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last year, right?
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So now moving in the left
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ready for that?
He's got a lot of upside and I

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think he's a good lineman.
I'm just a little bit concerned

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about him there and that's why
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Because I feel like he is one of
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I do have a concern about him at
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The see this myth?
I think we'll be fine.

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I mean I think he's going to be
our most consistent offensive.

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Lineman Johnny Jordan's going to
play center and then Brock

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Hoffman sliding over is probably
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But my patience with Brock
Hoffman ran thin last year for

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all of the ridiculous Antics.
After the whistle.

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It's like, dude, you are, you
are a good lineman you are.

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Not an outstanding lineman that
we can't.

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So outstanding that we can't
pull you out of the game.

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When you're acting like an
asshole, like you can't be

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committing.
I mean, some of the penalties,

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he's committing.
It's just like, man.

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They teach you this and this
guy's been playing football

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since he was, you know, yay,
high.

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You can't be committing the
penalties that he was committing

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and high leverage situations
like he was last year.

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Like he's got an absolutely
clean that up or else.

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You got to find somebody else.
Who's going to play?

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Who's not going to commit
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Good Weinman.
But not so good that you can't

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pull them off the field when
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So he's got to clean that up.
I'm really optimistic about

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Johnny, Jordan, its Center, you
know, all-big ten type player

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really started to come into his
own at.

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Maryland has an opportunity to
be really good here.

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I think and then Silas antsy, I
mean, I'm okay with him playing

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some I just You know, he's
probably going to be our most

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inconsistent offensive lineman
and I'm really concerned about

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the depth, I mean the the depth
the offensive line is what's

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troubling me.
I mean the only reason why it's

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a little bit better than
quarterback as you get more guys

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to try different positions but
that's that's really about it.

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I mean other than that it's a
lot of unproven Jeff back there.

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You hope you got.
Jesse that can play a couple

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different positions which is
that's really the only saving

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grace or at this point is that
you know, Jesse can probably

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play.
Behind Smith and behind Jordan,

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while brought kind of works on
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areas of need.
But outside of that, I mean it's

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it's like you said, it's scary
in the depth area Curtis, I'ma

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let you go ahead Ben.
Well, I mean, what I will you

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kind of said, what I was going
to say but the other piece is if

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we were to look back 365 days
ago and I told you guys, hey

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next year, offensive line depth
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Y'all would have a laughed at me
said I was an idiot.

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Based on what we had.
So once again it's the roster

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management but I'm going to
Pivot this quick back to you

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Brian because Mike I want you to
listen to Brian's idea and to me

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you talk about Silas being
inconsistent.

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I'd rather him be inconsistent
at guard and tackle and Bravo.

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Yeah Prime pitch an idea you
talked to me the other day about

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what you'd like to do on the
right side of that line.

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I mean think I think it would be
best if Brock and play right

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tackle.
If that would agree, that would

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be something that could work
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Silas.
You can hide the biggest

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deficiencies that he has inside.
Yes, you can and I think you'll

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do better in the running game
there as well.

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So moving him down.
I think would be the best case

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scenario so long as Brock and
hold up outside.

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Obviously he's seems like played
pretty much every position on

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the line.
At some point in his football,

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career played guard and Center,
obviously when he was at

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Coastal, Then, you know, we've
been kind of working him at both

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positions with Center being the
primary in terms of actually

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playing in a game, but I would
like to see him slide out.

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If we can make that work that
gives us the chance to probably

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put our best five linemen on the
field at least to start things

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off there and then see what goes
there.

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And obviously I've only looked
at a little tape on Bob Sheikh.

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He looks like he's a fairly
decent player but I don't

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nothing spectacular, you know?
The mechanics, but nothing that

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blows you away and obviously
hasn't done it at the power 5

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level yet.
So you really don't know what

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that's going to look like.
Yeah, so I mean when you're

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relying on those step pieces,
that haven't played the position

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at the power 5 level before and
you have two starters transfer

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out of the program, you have
another one, go to the NFL.

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It's again the roster management
is what really bothers me

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because I feel like we really
should have been the port.

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Oil and hitting the portal hard
for offensive lineman, when the

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coaching staff comes out in
Spring practice and I sit in, I

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sit in on those press
conferences and they're saying

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in those press conferences, that
offensive line depth is a

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serious concern when they're
saying that in the spring.

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This again, guys, this is a
coaching staff that has done

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everything in their power,
Brian.

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And I were talking about this
before we hit record, they do

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everything in their power, not
to reveal their hand right?

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When they're coming out and
openly saying, Extremely

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concerned about the offensive
line that makes me nervous.

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Exactly, really nervous when
they're open about their not

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open about anything.
They're gonna be open about

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that.
Come on now.

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Well, you talk about having your
hand.

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It's like, you they were drunk
at the card table that turned

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over their hand.
Once once Hudson and Nestor left

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assumes, they love you.
Nude aerosol was gone.

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Daryl saw, was that good of a
player?

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You knew was going and as soon
as though, kids transfer it out,

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everybody can look and say
they're gonna be weak on the

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offensive line.
I'm just a tattoo as well and

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then you sit here and there's
nothing behind it.

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There's no, there's no attacking
the portal.

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Talk about Bob ship potentially
coming in, maybe he comes in

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because at least he is 65 at 300
pounds.

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There's his upside, his upside
is, he has a body already that

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is essentially ready to play.
Maybe he has some good enough

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technique and fundamentals,
where you say, okay, we are

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going to move Brock outside
chicks, going to back him up.

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This will give us a little Room
flexibility on the inside with

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Silas and Jesse kind of play in
the swing guard spot now.

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But again, it's the whole thing
of what happened to Johnny, gets

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bang for three games.
Well, you moving Brock inside?

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Yeah, you're either shit.
Your silence outside, where it's

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like, at least you talked about,
Luke.

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The new to, at least Loop to
Newt is good enough.

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You know, schematically you
could do things to give him help

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on the left side, whether it be
keeping the tight ends in

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chipping shifting to that side.
but if you have two outside

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guys, who both need help, I
mean, what are you going to do?

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You're going to sit out there
and just run power all day and

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just say, hope to God, we can
get 3 to 4X protect everything,

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man.
Yeah, two-man routes all day.

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Yeah, the absolute key to this
offensive line having a

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successful years.
The interior guys staying

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healthy.
I mean, we can't can't afford to

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have an injury Ajani, Jordan
Brock Hoffman because even if

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they were to bounce Brock
Hoffman outside, if they have an

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injury inside, they can move
them, right?

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Now if you gets, if he gets
hurt, I think your options are a

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little bit more limited, our
list of where you're playing him

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inside or out.
Yeah, absolutely absolutely

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person.
So as we have kicked off the

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first two position groups here.
Our confidence levels are not

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that high for the offensive line
for the quarterback room.

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So let's move to the next room.
We're staying on offense, will

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flip the defense in a little
while here folks, let's look at

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the running back room and I'm
going to be straight up with

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you.
I put the running back room at a

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Because there's so many guys
there, someone is bound

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someone's gonna hit.
Apparently it ain't whether he's

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Sean King markedly, you know,
maybe one of the guys like Taj

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Gary, I hope to God they're not
putting Blackshear back there.

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A ton of times.
I'll let Brian Harper on that

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later.
Puts a new get there.

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We've seen Jalen on at the end
of the year to me.

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I saw mismanagement on field
last year when they were trying

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to put Rahim Blackshear to do
that.

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Tuff versus Jalen Holston, where
Jalen Holston, by the end of the

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year, was the number two.
And then the first time, they

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ran Marconi, the guy got like
five yards, because he's 235,

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and he just plows into the line.
He goes forward.

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So this group is high for me
because Curtis to do something.

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Karen is talk, talk him off.
Talking her, this this team,

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this team up until last year,
hadn't had a running game,

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consistently since 2011, and the
guy that was a catalyst for that

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leaves your putting Rocket 88
today.

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Well I'm going through a Time
grading them based on where I

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feel.
This is my highest confidence

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room because there's depth
there.

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There's guys we've seen Flash
I'm not worried if Jalen gets

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banged, I feel Keshawn could
come in.

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If you know, Marco somebody is
still going to be able to come

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and run, but beyond the softness
because of the offenses plays in

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the schematics, it has potential
for success and that's why I'm

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going there.
Not that.

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00:25:05,300 --> 00:25:08,700
There's like this guy's going to
go 1,800 yards and averaged six

449
00:25:08,700 --> 00:25:10,900
and a half a carry.
That's not the reason.

450
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,200
There's just so many bodies
there compared to some of the

451
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,200
other rooms.
Here's the thing, too.

452
00:25:16,900 --> 00:25:18,500
About the running back room to
your point.

453
00:25:18,500 --> 00:25:25,100
Chris the fact that under Justin
Fuente, this Cam finds ways to

454
00:25:25,100 --> 00:25:28,300
run the football regardless of
whether or not they have a Bell

455
00:25:28,300 --> 00:25:30,500
cow back, right?
I think that's clear and it's

456
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,200
it's not always going to be a
really successful running game.

457
00:25:34,300 --> 00:25:38,000
I think we know that at this
point, but they're going to do

458
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:43,700
enough to keep the defense
off-balance and they're not

459
00:25:43,700 --> 00:25:48,900
going to have Another Khalil
Herbert for a long time and

460
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,700
that's that's not a slight at
anybody, they bring in or it's

461
00:25:52,700 --> 00:25:59,100
just what he did last year was
historic in terms of the running

462
00:25:59,100 --> 00:26:04,000
back position at Virginia Tech.
People need to understand, I

463
00:26:04,008 --> 00:26:06,900
think a lot of people do, but a
lot of people, I think just kind

464
00:26:06,900 --> 00:26:09,900
of gloss it over because the
team didn't play, as well as a

465
00:26:09,908 --> 00:26:12,900
lot of people had hoped like,
that was a really historic

466
00:26:12,900 --> 00:26:16,500
season Aegis, add terms of yards
Carrie in terms of yards per

467
00:26:16,500 --> 00:26:18,500
game, all-purpose yards.
He was one of the top backs in

468
00:26:18,500 --> 00:26:22,100
the country Virginia Tech has it
had that, you know, forget

469
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,100
forget about 2011, with David
Wilson.

470
00:26:24,100 --> 00:26:27,800
They haven't had that really in
a long time, even going back to,

471
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,500
like, Darren Evans Ryan
Williams.

472
00:26:30,500 --> 00:26:34,000
I mean, they've had some strong
running games Lee Suggs, but,

473
00:26:34,100 --> 00:26:36,100
Khalil Herbert is right up there
with any of them.

474
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,300
Oh, yeah.
And he was outstanding last year

475
00:26:39,300 --> 00:26:40,600
and that's really hard to
replace.

476
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,200
But again, you know, they got a
lot of guys in this room,

477
00:26:43,900 --> 00:26:47,100
whether it be the Sounds like
Jalen Holston or Rahim

478
00:26:47,100 --> 00:26:49,500
Blackshear, you know, kind of
coming into his own as an

479
00:26:49,500 --> 00:26:52,700
upperclassman.
Again, I'm with you Curtis, like

480
00:26:52,700 --> 00:26:55,500
I would prefer to have her here.
Blackshear play more in the

481
00:26:55,500 --> 00:26:58,700
slot, play more outside of
receiver, play a little bit at

482
00:26:58,700 --> 00:27:01,200
running back.
I want him kind of all over the

483
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:02,900
field.
I don't want him lining up,

484
00:27:02,900 --> 00:27:04,300
carrying the ball 15 times the
game.

485
00:27:04,300 --> 00:27:05,600
I don't think that's his
strength.

486
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,800
I don't think that's that.
That's what the coaching staff

487
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,900
envisions him doing and you guys
will remember, I mean, they were

488
00:27:12,900 --> 00:27:14,700
hyping up Raheem Blackshear more
than pull her.

489
00:27:14,900 --> 00:27:17,300
Last year.
And then, you know, Blackshear

490
00:27:17,300 --> 00:27:19,300
got a little banged up, had a
hamstring injury.

491
00:27:20,300 --> 00:27:23,200
Never really came into form.
Like, the coaching staff was

492
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,500
hoping, but he's got an
opportunity to be really

493
00:27:25,500 --> 00:27:28,100
Dynamic.
I like the Freshman Jordan

494
00:27:28,100 --> 00:27:29,700
Brunson a lot.
I don't know if he'll get any

495
00:27:29,700 --> 00:27:32,800
carries but I like him.
I like his potential.

496
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:38,000
A lot 6-foot 215 pounds.
I mean, he's got good size, he's

497
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,300
got decent speed, he's got very
good athleticism.

498
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,200
I like his tape from high school
a lot and I don't think he's

499
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,200
being talked about.
About nearly enough right now.

500
00:27:46,900 --> 00:27:50,700
But again there are so many
different guys that I think, you

501
00:27:50,700 --> 00:27:52,600
know, could potentially play a
role.

502
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,800
I mean, I'd love to see Marco,
we play some but he's going to

503
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,400
be that Niche.
Like short yardage guy feel like

504
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,400
and in this offense we're always
a shotgun out, know how much

505
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,100
he's really going to actually
have that role and have that

506
00:28:05,100 --> 00:28:08,700
opportunity.
We all love Keshawn King to but

507
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,100
the whole Kenny put on weight,
you know, can you hold his

508
00:28:12,100 --> 00:28:13,500
weight at the division?
One level?

509
00:28:13,500 --> 00:28:14,700
That's, that's the question as
well.

510
00:28:14,900 --> 00:28:18,400
Also, there are so there's so
many questions in this room to

511
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:22,300
and like uncertainty with a lot
of these guys that it's hard for

512
00:28:22,300 --> 00:28:26,500
me to have a lot of confidence.
I put it like three or four.

513
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:32,300
Okay I mean I I just don't I
don't know enough about a lot of

514
00:28:32,300 --> 00:28:34,400
these guys that we may have to
rely on.

515
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:35,500
I mean that's just the bottom
line.

516
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,800
I'm close to you there.
I so I see this unit is kind of

517
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:45,600
like a Hi Flor, low ceiling
unit.

518
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,700
I feel like they're not going to
be bad just because they have a

519
00:28:49,700 --> 00:28:53,200
lot of guys and a lot of guys
that at this point I've seen

520
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:58,700
some action but we as you said
we don't have a Bell cow.

521
00:28:58,700 --> 00:29:03,000
We don't have a Khalil Herbert,
I don't think Holston can step

522
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,700
into that type of role.
I feel like he's more of a want

523
00:29:06,700 --> 00:29:11,200
to say plotting back, but he's
gonna get you solid carries but

524
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,400
he's not going to be the guy
like Herbert that breaks that

525
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:18,500
one tackle and now he's out in
the secondary and he's president

526
00:29:18,500 --> 00:29:21,500
of extra yards.
Yeah he's not going to get those

527
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,200
at least not at the same level
that Herbert did.

528
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,300
I mean a lot of times on that
outside Zone he would you know,

529
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,900
shoulder shrug one tackle and
next thing you know, he's at the

530
00:29:29,900 --> 00:29:35,200
next level and up the sideline I
feel like King has a lot of

531
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,500
potential with.
As you said, can he keep on on

532
00:29:38,500 --> 00:29:40,700
the weight?
I think it sounds like he's

533
00:29:40,700 --> 00:29:43,000
making some progress with with
To get on.

534
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,300
The question is, can he keep it
on?

535
00:29:44,300 --> 00:29:47,900
Keep it on in season when it
matters to stay, you know, keep

536
00:29:47,900 --> 00:29:52,000
his body healthy enough to take
the the bangs in the hips that

537
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:57,200
come at playing running back.
And, you know, Marco Li big guy

538
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,700
definitely more of a niche
player though, as you said

539
00:30:00,300 --> 00:30:03,900
short, yardage goal-line
scenarios don't see him getting

540
00:30:03,900 --> 00:30:06,600
much in the middle of the field
unless you know it's one of

541
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,900
those third and shorts and we
don't call quarterback power in

542
00:30:09,900 --> 00:30:13,800
those situations.
We we Give the ball to a big

543
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,600
back and let him get the first
down there.

544
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,100
But as you said though, I would
say, you know, Brunson and

545
00:30:19,100 --> 00:30:21,000
Hampton or probably in played.
I don't know if they're going to

546
00:30:21,008 --> 00:30:23,700
get a whole lot of snaps.
But I really like brunson's tape

547
00:30:23,700 --> 00:30:27,500
and I look yeah, coming out.
So you know, he has the

548
00:30:27,508 --> 00:30:31,300
potential if he puts the pieces
together to pop and maybe

549
00:30:31,900 --> 00:30:35,100
compete for some snaps.
But I really want to see

550
00:30:35,100 --> 00:30:37,800
Blackshear more in the next
group are going to talk about

551
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:42,200
than this group.
I think he's more of a like,

552
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,700
Percy, Harvin type player like,
yep.

553
00:30:44,700 --> 00:30:47,200
He'll he needs to take some
carries out of the bag, feel he

554
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,900
needs to run some routes out of
the backfield and things of that

555
00:30:50,900 --> 00:30:52,600
nature.
But he doesn't need to be your

556
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:56,700
spell back or any sort of every
down tight player from the

557
00:30:56,700 --> 00:30:58,500
running back position.
He's gonna have to take some

558
00:30:58,500 --> 00:31:00,300
damn snaps at quarterback at
some point.

559
00:31:00,300 --> 00:31:06,100
Probably, well, there is, you
know, there's one person out

560
00:31:06,100 --> 00:31:13,100
there that's potentially being
recruited that I feel That if it

561
00:31:13,100 --> 00:31:16,600
happens, you could have a Khalil
Herbert situation again because

562
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,600
of his talent.
I'm not mentioning his name.

563
00:31:18,700 --> 00:31:21,300
I think anyone that is in the
know, if Virginia Tech football

564
00:31:21,300 --> 00:31:25,000
know who I am talking about, but
the events that happened

565
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,200
yesterday with someone in his
family, not looking great.

566
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,600
So we'll see.
Brian.

567
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,700
You already mentioned it.
I'll set up the softball to you

568
00:31:33,700 --> 00:31:35,800
big guy, wide, receiver tight
in.

569
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,800
Where's your confidence level on
this one, run?

570
00:31:39,700 --> 00:31:44,400
A 3, I'm at a 3 on wide
receiver.

571
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:50,300
And it really has all to do with
You know, it's a whole lot of

572
00:31:50,300 --> 00:31:52,400
question marks.
Once you get past the name's

573
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:57,100
Trey Turner and TV on Robinson.
And we're going to go ahead and

574
00:31:57,100 --> 00:32:00,000
throw tight ends in here in this
group and James Mitchell would

575
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,800
be the other name that you would
mention there.

576
00:32:03,900 --> 00:32:06,800
I think we have a lot of really
good receivers that can play in

577
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:14,600
the slot, whether it be freshman
or a Raheem Blackshear, but I'm

578
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:18,900
not really sold on guys, that be
on Trey Turner and tadion

579
00:32:18,900 --> 00:32:22,300
Robinson that can really step up
at the at the outside there.

580
00:32:22,900 --> 00:32:26,500
Those are concerning whether we
end up using James Mitchell in a

581
00:32:26,500 --> 00:32:30,400
similar fashion that we use
Bucky Hodges, early, and

582
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:35,800
twenties tenure that Used to be
seen given the lack of depth, I

583
00:32:35,808 --> 00:32:38,800
think, at the position in terms
of proven talent because you

584
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,900
know, beyond the kind of first
line guys, there's a, there's a

585
00:32:41,908 --> 00:32:45,600
bunch of names but not a, not a
bunch of snaps behind those

586
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:54,100
names, man.
I just hire I hate.

587
00:32:54,100 --> 00:32:57,400
I hate to just continue to say
the same thing over and over

588
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,600
again.
But I feel just, I feel that

589
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,700
this entire roster is so
mediocre right now.

590
00:33:03,100 --> 00:33:05,600
Like it a lot of positions.
Not not all positions will get

591
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,500
to defense.
I'm a lot more confident on that

592
00:33:07,500 --> 00:33:10,000
side of the ball.
Pit on the offense.

593
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:14,800
I have concerns man like At
receiver specifically.

594
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:20,900
Traitor norm and it's it's about
time like we're getting it's

595
00:33:20,900 --> 00:33:22,400
getting to be about that time,
buddy.

596
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,600
Like we need we need some more
production, right?

597
00:33:25,700 --> 00:33:31,400
Like it's getting a little late.
Showed a lot of Promise as a

598
00:33:31,408 --> 00:33:36,500
freshman last couple years not
so much, he's got a lot of

599
00:33:36,500 --> 00:33:38,400
potential.
It continues to have a lot of

600
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,100
potential and that's what's
bothering me.

601
00:33:40,500 --> 00:33:44,100
It's just kind of like he hasn't
fully realized kind of the

602
00:33:44,100 --> 00:33:47,600
player that I think a lot of us
thought he could be, you know,

603
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,200
we first came to campus.
I think we were all thinking.

604
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:53,400
All right, I say afford type
explosive plays right.

605
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,000
Actually what I thought and then
and then it just hasn't really

606
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:58,800
panned out.
He hasn't stayed healthy.

607
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:03,400
It's been It's been a struggle.
I get the quarterback position

608
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,500
has been kind of revolving.
Doors hard to get written with

609
00:34:05,500 --> 00:34:07,900
quarterbacks.
I get it as a receiver.

610
00:34:07,900 --> 00:34:11,699
I understand James Mitchell is
really good.

611
00:34:12,199 --> 00:34:15,199
It's awesome.
They stuck around Nick, a low.

612
00:34:15,199 --> 00:34:19,800
I like him a lot.
I just as a pure at the pure

613
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,100
receiver position.
I think changa Hodge could have

614
00:34:22,100 --> 00:34:24,800
really carved out a nice roll.
It's unfortunate that he tore

615
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:29,100
his ACL Jaden pay.
You, I'm really excited to see

616
00:34:29,100 --> 00:34:31,699
him play.
I'm also So a little bit nervous

617
00:34:31,699 --> 00:34:36,300
that he's not going to be as
healthy as he would like and

618
00:34:36,300 --> 00:34:39,699
again it's anytime you have a
foot injury when you got screws

619
00:34:39,699 --> 00:34:43,400
inserted and all that stuff,
it's a total coin flip guys and

620
00:34:43,699 --> 00:34:47,500
I'd love for him to come back
and be healthy and played his

621
00:34:47,500 --> 00:34:50,000
potential because I know the
staffs very high on them and

622
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,199
he's one of the few four stars
on our roster at this point.

623
00:34:53,300 --> 00:34:55,900
So I would like for him to
produce at a skill position.

624
00:34:56,300 --> 00:34:59,400
Yep.
And You know, Tavian Robinson.

625
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,200
I like him a lot.
I'm really excited in this room

626
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,200
about the young guys, right?
I mean, the one Lofton I think

627
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,400
is going to play and play a
decent amount, it seemed like he

628
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,400
was getting a decent amount of
snaps with the ones during the

629
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:15,000
Spring.
That's really encouraging Jalen

630
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,600
Jones freshman out of Richmond,
is another kid that I think has

631
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:22,000
a lot of potential both inside
and outside, he's a little bit

632
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,400
bigger into one Lofton.
So those are two guys who are

633
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,300
Young, Who I think could play
early.

634
00:35:28,100 --> 00:35:30,800
But I think my confidence level
is still around like a for

635
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:35,500
because Trey Turner can't really
stay healthy and James Mitchell.

636
00:35:35,500 --> 00:35:36,900
I feel like everything's going
to key on them.

637
00:35:36,900 --> 00:35:38,200
So who's going to be the other
guy?

638
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,500
It steps up, you know, is going
to be taping on Robinson, take

639
00:35:40,500 --> 00:35:43,800
on kind of a larger role now his
third year and the offense is it

640
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,000
going to be one of the young
guys like Loughner Jones like,

641
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,100
is it going to be Nick Gallo
stepping up?

642
00:35:49,100 --> 00:35:50,900
Is he going to get more snaps
too tight and too tight end

643
00:35:50,900 --> 00:35:52,300
sets, right?
So you got to become more of a

644
00:35:52,300 --> 00:35:54,800
past catching threat.
Now Like those are questions, I

645
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,800
have and I just I think there's
potential out of this group for

646
00:35:58,808 --> 00:36:00,800
sure.
I just confidence is not all

647
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,800
that high just because of
injuries and health and depth

648
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,600
and that sort of thing.
I'm close with you guys on this

649
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:07,900
one.
I'm like it a full with this one

650
00:36:07,900 --> 00:36:11,700
too and it's not the guys are
talented.

651
00:36:11,700 --> 00:36:15,000
You start looking at the gas
trays, talented that first year,

652
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,500
like you mentioned Mike.
He exploded we expected more.

653
00:36:17,500 --> 00:36:20,200
He's kind of only one up a
little bit.

654
00:36:20,500 --> 00:36:23,500
Not really did this.
Potential is there?

655
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:28,300
Potentials there, Tavian same
way, Tavian is growing his first

656
00:36:28,300 --> 00:36:30,500
year.
The second year, you saw the

657
00:36:30,500 --> 00:36:34,700
growth and then pay you, if that
guy comes back and has anything

658
00:36:34,700 --> 00:36:39,000
near the speed that he showed
at, essentially the workout that

659
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,000
got him.
The offer and bumped him to a

660
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:46,500
top hundred player, that's good.
Blackshear Lofton, don't

661
00:36:46,500 --> 00:36:50,400
actually, have to do, much
obliged, y'all love Dimension,

662
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:58,200
here, I mentioned him in passing
It's an idiot being, not being a

663
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:03,000
running back, not being, just a
slot games Mitchell and Gallo.

664
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,400
Even drink gave us.
We know.

665
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,600
He can be a solid tight end.
What I'm more concerned with and

666
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:11,200
why this group is a 4 and not
necessarily like a five or a six

667
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:16,800
is we've had talented groups
before and we don't show how to

668
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:22,600
put them in situations to excel.
And what makes me angry, my.

669
00:37:22,700 --> 00:37:25,100
And I told Brian, that's a ton.
If you've listened to us before.

670
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,100
What do you mean serious is?
I look at this offense and if

671
00:37:28,100 --> 00:37:30,400
you put these guys in the
situations where they could

672
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:34,600
Excel, you could have guys who
are borderlining on 1,000

673
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,900
receiving yards.
Not one multiple you have.

674
00:37:37,900 --> 00:37:42,000
Guys, who could be borderlining
on Thousand rushing yards, not

675
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:46,700
one multiple.
But every time it's like, Okay,

676
00:37:46,700 --> 00:37:49,000
this is the year we're going to
see more plays and it's like the

677
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,800
same 15 plays.
Yeah, instead would rather run

678
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,200
the quarterback 30 times a game,
you know, exactly.

679
00:37:55,800 --> 00:38:03,100
So it's a gross mismanagement of
talents and if you know to me

680
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,200
and I'm probably sure to you
guys.

681
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,200
If Justin Fuente done win 10
games ago, the ACC title game,

682
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,400
he's fired.
It doesn't.

683
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,000
I think that's I think that's
it.

684
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:18,600
See I I think, I think that's
what should happen.

685
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:23,100
But to be honest with you, in my
opinion, when Whit Babcock and

686
00:38:23,100 --> 00:38:29,400
whoever else made the decision
to keep want a around, They made

687
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,800
their bed with that, and I think
it's going to be more than a

688
00:38:32,808 --> 00:38:36,800
one-year experiment because I
don't think you do the whole

689
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,000
song and dance that this could
be an entirely different

690
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:40,600
podcast.
I want to get us to off track

691
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:45,100
but I don't think I don't think
with Babcock says the whole song

692
00:38:45,100 --> 00:38:47,600
and dance of oh like this is
really your one.

693
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,900
You know, we didn't have our
facilities and didn't put enough

694
00:38:49,900 --> 00:38:51,500
funding in the football.
Yeah.

695
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,900
Like I think it would have to be
real bad for Fuente to get

696
00:38:54,900 --> 00:38:56,600
fired.
I honestly believe that.

697
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,700
I think if honest to God, I
think if you go Like eating for

698
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:05,800
and only losses to like Notre
Dame UNC couple, others West

699
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,800
Virginia, maybe.
And then like name, the random

700
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:12,900
ACC game, we lose every year,
like I think that that probably

701
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,000
is going to be enough for him to
stick around another year.

702
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:22,000
I do believe that I don't, I got
no I got no reason to believe

703
00:39:22,100 --> 00:39:26,000
that.
This is going to work long-term.

704
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:30,300
I mean, I'm I'm not optimistic
guy, I didn't really understand

705
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,800
why he was kept.
I guess a big buyout all that.

706
00:39:33,300 --> 00:39:35,700
I just feel like there was there
were too many things said in

707
00:39:35,707 --> 00:39:38,500
that press conference by Witt
Badcock to made me think man I

708
00:39:38,500 --> 00:39:40,200
feel like this is more than a
one year thing.

709
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,300
It would have to be real bad.
It would have to like really

710
00:39:42,300 --> 00:39:45,800
really bottomed out because he's
stuck around for this long.

711
00:39:46,100 --> 00:39:48,800
I don't know, but let me ask you
before you jump.

712
00:39:52,300 --> 00:39:54,900
I want you to answer this too.
Hayden for seven.

713
00:39:54,900 --> 00:39:58,000
And five does would get to walk
up to him and say, you need to

714
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:03,500
fucking fire somebody.
Because this is, it should have

715
00:40:03,500 --> 00:40:06,900
already happened.
Yes, right.

716
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,600
I mean, it should have already
happened.

717
00:40:10,100 --> 00:40:13,300
We, I mean, we're all on the
same page on this.

718
00:40:13,300 --> 00:40:15,800
We talked about this several
times off the air, but this is

719
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,800
like At that should already
happens.

720
00:40:18,900 --> 00:40:22,700
I the fact.
And I like, I like Justin

721
00:40:22,700 --> 00:40:25,900
Hamilton a lot and I like his
potential and all that.

722
00:40:26,300 --> 00:40:30,300
But when your backs against the
wall hiring a guy who's never

723
00:40:30,300 --> 00:40:33,100
been a defensive coordinator
before is a hell of a decision.

724
00:40:33,900 --> 00:40:35,600
Yep.
It's a hell of a decision.

725
00:40:38,100 --> 00:40:39,300
I don't know, I wouldn't have
done it.

726
00:40:39,300 --> 00:40:42,200
I mean I all potential in the
world has a chance to be really

727
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:43,700
good.
I like Hamilton.

728
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,800
I think he could be a very good
defensive coordinator.

729
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,700
I get his potential but I feel
like Fuente and the reason why

730
00:40:49,700 --> 00:40:51,700
he's in this mess is, he's hired
too many guys based on

731
00:40:51,700 --> 00:40:53,600
potential.
Okay.

732
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,800
And he's recruited too many guys
based on potential and not like

733
00:40:57,300 --> 00:41:00,200
where they're actually at right
now and I think that's why the

734
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:01,800
programs kind of in the right
there in.

735
00:41:01,900 --> 00:41:05,400
But anyway, that's a very, very
good point.

736
00:41:06,900 --> 00:41:11,300
I like the way you said that a
lot of potential but we haven't

737
00:41:11,300 --> 00:41:13,300
seen a whole lot of that
potential come to fruition.

738
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:19,500
Yeah, I think you know when you
look at it just it just Hamilton

739
00:41:20,700 --> 00:41:23,400
lot of lot of.
Lot of good things you're

740
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:27,400
seeing, but I think there's
definitely some Growing Pains

741
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,000
that are going to come with
hiring.

742
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:34,600
A coach, that hasn't really seen
a whole lot of action at the

743
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:39,900
rapper five level at this point.
And you know, we can address the

744
00:41:39,900 --> 00:41:42,600
elephant in the room that is
Brad.

745
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:48,200
Carl Nelson.
Yeah, probably put in a position

746
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:52,600
where has potential but what
we're seeing is that the

747
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:57,200
deficiencies are in the
offensive design or anything of

748
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,700
that but it's in the the small
situations in the game that

749
00:42:00,700 --> 00:42:05,600
matter whether it's Certain
calls at certain times of the

750
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:10,300
game or making adjustments when,
you know, we do what we do isn't

751
00:42:10,300 --> 00:42:16,900
working, right?
I've just I feel like this is, I

752
00:42:16,900 --> 00:42:19,400
mean, obviously this is a
program on the brink.

753
00:42:19,700 --> 00:42:23,000
And obviously, there have been
some tough years here recently

754
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:28,300
and it's all about time, right?
And I just don't know.

755
00:42:29,900 --> 00:42:32,400
I'm confident listen, I'm
confident that what Virginia

756
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,400
Tech's doing as a nap.
Light department to put more

757
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,400
money into football and
recruiting resources and all

758
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,900
that I think that'll pay off.
And I think Puente to his

759
00:42:39,900 --> 00:42:41,100
credit.
I think he's made the right

760
00:42:41,100 --> 00:42:47,000
hires for recruiting and with
some of his support staff to

761
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,300
really attack something he's not
very good at in recruiting.

762
00:42:50,300 --> 00:42:53,900
Yeah I just don't know if he's
going to have enough time to

763
00:42:53,900 --> 00:42:57,200
reap the benefits of that and
I'm not sure he's going to have

764
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,000
enough time to reap.
The benefits of Justin Hamilton

765
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,700
has potential as a defensive
coordinator and that's kind of,

766
00:43:01,700 --> 00:43:05,900
that's kind of just a trend With
this program, I just we're short

767
00:43:05,900 --> 00:43:07,400
on time.
I'm just not sure there's going

768
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:11,800
to be that opportunity for you
know, these guys to really kind

769
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:17,200
of come into their own.
Wonderful viewer, their hashtag

770
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:26,500
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771
00:43:26,500 --> 00:43:29,600
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772
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:37,300
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Alright, so now let's jump on

773
00:43:37,300 --> 00:43:40,100
the defensive side of the ball
and I'm going to leave here.

774
00:43:40,300 --> 00:43:41,900
We're going to start with the
defensive line because the

775
00:43:41,908 --> 00:43:44,500
defensive line gets one of my
highest grades.

776
00:43:44,500 --> 00:43:49,900
I'm giving it a 7 and it's not
only potential as you guys have

777
00:43:49,900 --> 00:43:54,300
been talking about, but it's
proven results, its depth.

778
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:58,100
And it's a it's a line.
We saw do, well, last year at

779
00:43:58,100 --> 00:44:01,700
times and not do so well at
times, but there are also some

780
00:44:01,900 --> 00:44:04,900
key, correct, positional
requirements.

781
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,600
That we didn't have loved your
all Hewitt.

782
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,900
Garage Hewitt was not a
defensive tackle in this

783
00:44:09,900 --> 00:44:14,100
particular scheme.
He leaves in lo and behold a six

784
00:44:14,100 --> 00:44:18,500
foot four 317 pounds defensive
lineman from the 757 transfers

785
00:44:18,500 --> 00:44:21,700
from Clemson.
He is a prototypical defensive

786
00:44:21,700 --> 00:44:26,200
tackle in this type of scheme
and not only is it one of these

787
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,300
things where it's Virginia kid
coming home, he get the

788
00:44:28,300 --> 00:44:32,500
feel-good story, you get a
recruiting bump in my opinion

789
00:44:32,500 --> 00:44:36,800
because of the talk that he had
about, like he created a great

790
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,600
relationship with Justin Fuente
while he was being recruited.

791
00:44:40,300 --> 00:44:44,300
A lot of people didn't like to
hear that but it does say that

792
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,500
maybe all is not bad with our
head coach recruits.

793
00:44:49,500 --> 00:44:52,200
But I sit here and I look at the
names of maribor.

794
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:56,100
No Pollard through the Kendricks
guard but hopefully Belmar.

795
00:44:56,100 --> 00:45:00,900
I know he's going through some
things, you know, where are you

796
00:45:00,900 --> 00:45:02,300
at?
Mike with a defensive line

797
00:45:02,300 --> 00:45:06,300
group.
Honestly, like a seven.

798
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,500
It's one of my highest ratings
as well.

799
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:14,700
Just think about the guys that
are kind of coming back into the

800
00:45:14,700 --> 00:45:17,600
fold right bar.
No.

801
00:45:17,900 --> 00:45:21,000
Didn't even really have a full
offseason to be a defensive end

802
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,100
before last year and still
produced, and now he has a

803
00:45:23,100 --> 00:45:26,600
regular offseason without covid.
And all that stuff has an

804
00:45:26,607 --> 00:45:29,100
opportunity to really produce
Taiwan gar butts back.

805
00:45:29,100 --> 00:45:32,700
Emmanuel Belmar, has proven to
be a very solid player for the

806
00:45:32,700 --> 00:45:35,000
Hokies.
You got Robert Wooten and out,

807
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,600
Brian on the outside on the
interior, you obviously have

808
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,300
Jordan Williams transferring in
from Send Josh fuga has an

809
00:45:41,300 --> 00:45:44,700
opportunity now to be you know
really good and kind of grasp

810
00:45:44,700 --> 00:45:48,000
and more of a role on the
interior defensive line you got

811
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:52,300
norell Pollard as well.
I would would have just

812
00:45:52,300 --> 00:45:59,300
absolutely Just love to see this
unit with like a full off season

813
00:45:59,300 --> 00:46:03,200
last year, like a real
opportunity to kind of gel

814
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,600
because bar no-shows, so much
promise.

815
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:11,000
And he's so freaking athletic
and the fact that he was able to

816
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,700
play as well as he did.
Last year, without any real

817
00:46:13,700 --> 00:46:16,600
offseason practice at the
position is.

818
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:20,100
So promising for this upcoming
year, I'm really high on the

819
00:46:20,107 --> 00:46:22,800
defense guys.
I think defensive line has a

820
00:46:22,808 --> 00:46:27,300
chance to be really good.
And I'm interested to see, you

821
00:46:27,300 --> 00:46:30,000
know what, JC price kind of
coming into the fold.

822
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,700
You know how that Dynamic works
out without Darryl Tapp because

823
00:46:33,700 --> 00:46:36,800
built secure link has proven to
be really good and the

824
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:38,700
opportunity now for j.c.
Price, not only on the

825
00:46:38,700 --> 00:46:42,400
recruiting Trail, but to come in
and kind of add a new voice to

826
00:46:42,408 --> 00:46:44,700
the room, on the defense side of
the football.

827
00:46:44,700 --> 00:46:47,800
I'm really excited to see that.
Plus the fact that these players

828
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,700
get an entire offseason to kind
of move forward.

829
00:46:51,500 --> 00:46:55,100
One other quick note to Sean
Crawford would have loved to see

830
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:58,800
M, stick around.
I understand why you transferred

831
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,600
out of the program.
I get it.

832
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,600
It's it's a numbers thing.
Just a lot of town.

833
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,800
Two guys on the interior
defensive line for Virginia Tech

834
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,100
but I really liked him a lot.
He was always fun to interview

835
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,700
like he was great in press
conferences and stuff like that.

836
00:47:10,900 --> 00:47:14,400
So personal affinity for the
guy, but he was also a pretty

837
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,700
solid player and it's kind of a
bummer that he's gone.

838
00:47:16,700 --> 00:47:19,400
I think you would have been
great but this is a really,

839
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,100
really good unit here up front
and I think has a lot of

840
00:47:22,100 --> 00:47:24,100
Promise.
Yeah.

841
00:47:24,100 --> 00:47:26,100
I like I'm gay.
This this group aa6.

842
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,600
I like the Frontline guys, I
like the second line, guys, I

843
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,000
like the other hand full of guys
that are going to work in.

844
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,800
I know builds here, link likes
to run at least two.

845
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:41,900
Sometimes three line deep with
his defensive line getting

846
00:47:41,900 --> 00:47:47,100
significant number of steps but
just we talked about it a lot on

847
00:47:47,100 --> 00:47:52,700
this like the way bar no went
from somewhat of a liability

848
00:47:52,700 --> 00:47:54,900
unless it was a third and long
situation.

849
00:47:55,200 --> 00:48:00,600
A week 12, where he finished the
season was, was mind-blowing,

850
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:05,500
like, dude came on and came on
Fast and once he got it.

851
00:48:06,100 --> 00:48:11,200
I mean, he just took off, you
know, having Belmar back Jaylyn

852
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:16,100
Griff and see how Robert Wooten
comes along like the defensive

853
00:48:16,100 --> 00:48:19,700
ends overall defensive tackle.
I feel really good about.

854
00:48:19,700 --> 00:48:22,000
As you said, I would have liked
to see if dashon Crawford would

855
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,600
have stuck around how deep that
unit would have been as well.

856
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:28,300
But we still, Oh, got Pollard,
we got Williams coming in still.

857
00:48:28,300 --> 00:48:31,800
Got Kendricks fuga.
Got Max Philpott on scholarship

858
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:35,500
now, I heard he had a pretty
good spring, so, I mean, there's

859
00:48:35,500 --> 00:48:37,800
a lot of Promise in this unit,
so I feel really good about

860
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:41,800
them.
And as far as the interior part

861
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,400
of the line goes were actually
for the first time.

862
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:49,600
I feel like maybe since mid
2000's, we were big inside.

863
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:53,400
Yeah, not great weight.
We you know, Jordan's over

864
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,500
three.
Food goes over three Pollard,

865
00:48:56,500 --> 00:49:00,700
your biggest undersized guy.
But if he's deployed correctly

866
00:49:00,700 --> 00:49:03,500
in the right situations, Brian,
you can attest to this.

867
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,200
There's no probably there's only
a handful of guards and centers

868
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:11,600
that can deal with that quick.
That Pollard has based on his

869
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,600
size to strength.
Like, you know, he's got a quick

870
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,600
step, but he is strong.
He's like 270 but he's built.

871
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:19,700
Like he's strong enough to be
290.

872
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,300
When you have that quick step
and you have that strength,

873
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,300
there's not going to be many
interior lineman that going to

874
00:49:24,300 --> 00:49:28,900
be able to stop you.
This is be honest.

875
00:49:29,100 --> 00:49:33,100
This is probably the group that
saved Justin Fuente job.

876
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,600
Yeah.
I mean for real, I agree.

877
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,900
I agree.
It shows that he could go out

878
00:49:38,900 --> 00:49:44,500
and land a big-time transfer and
develop the group that's here

879
00:49:44,500 --> 00:49:47,200
because again Kendricks and
Pollard and the guys have been

880
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,200
here if shown it in far no for
real and bar know I mentioned

881
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,800
this to Braun a couple days ago
Bardo.

882
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:56,300
Got tap one-on-one last year.
You mentioned, JC prices coming

883
00:49:56,300 --> 00:49:59,900
in JC, is a defensive tackle got
more, he's coached the whole

884
00:49:59,900 --> 00:50:02,500
line, but he played defensive
tackle, you feel like that's

885
00:50:02,500 --> 00:50:04,600
more his bread and butter.
He's not going to get probably

886
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,000
tearing it more.
Or of the time.

887
00:50:07,500 --> 00:50:10,700
So it's almost like Darryl was
able to shave the raw down and

888
00:50:10,700 --> 00:50:12,100
started.
What we saw at the end of last

889
00:50:12,100 --> 00:50:15,100
year now you're going to get
like the doctor to come in and

890
00:50:15,100 --> 00:50:17,900
say Here's what you need to do
next.

891
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,600
Yep.
I'll know it's promising.

892
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:25,700
I mean I'm I like this group a
lot and again I think this is

893
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:30,600
one of the first times you know,
since Bud Foster left that

894
00:50:31,300 --> 00:50:35,700
you're seeing You know, the
bigger defensive lineman really

895
00:50:35,700 --> 00:50:38,100
come into the fold in a more
prominent way.

896
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,100
We've seen it bits and pieces,
right?

897
00:50:40,100 --> 00:50:42,200
Even when Bud Foster was still
defensive coordinator, we saw

898
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,600
kind of bigger defensive
lineman, start to get recruited

899
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,900
a little bit and then you really
saw it when Justin Hamilton took

900
00:50:47,900 --> 00:50:50,500
over and now you're going to see
them in a more prominent role

901
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,500
with a lot of the younger guys
to like not just a Jordan

902
00:50:54,500 --> 00:50:56,600
Williams is of the world I'm
talking about like yeah younger

903
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:58,800
guys are going to have an
opportunity to play here.

904
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,900
Yeah it's exciting and I think
it needs to be done.

905
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,700
Especially in like this new era
of college football.

906
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,500
I think you've got to have
bigger defense, interior

907
00:51:08,500 --> 00:51:10,200
defensive lineman defense
events.

908
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,800
And you know the way that Bud
Foster traditionally recruited

909
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:17,000
defensive lineman, I think
moving moving past that,

910
00:51:17,300 --> 00:51:19,500
honestly, for all the good
things about possibly, I think

911
00:51:19,500 --> 00:51:24,100
kind of moving past that into
this kind New Era up front on

912
00:51:24,100 --> 00:51:25,900
the defensive line I think, is
for the best.

913
00:51:26,900 --> 00:51:28,900
Absolutely.
All right, let's roll on.

914
00:51:28,900 --> 00:51:32,800
Let's take a look at the
linebacker Corps Brown.

915
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:36,000
Won't you jump on this woman?
Because I feel like when we

916
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,200
talked a couple days ago, we
were feeling this kind of

917
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:39,600
similar.
And then I'll only hear what you

918
00:51:39,607 --> 00:51:42,700
got to say, mine.
I will start off.

919
00:51:42,700 --> 00:51:44,700
I'm going to go ahead and get my
grade first.

920
00:51:44,700 --> 00:51:49,900
I'm giving this a for I feel
okay about it.

921
00:51:51,500 --> 00:51:54,900
I don't really think the the
recent news really changes how I

922
00:51:54,900 --> 00:51:59,400
feel about it.
We've got Dax moving into Mike

923
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,900
kishan artist and Dean Ferguson
kind of behind him.

924
00:52:02,900 --> 00:52:05,600
I feel like that's a pretty
solid three-man.

925
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:11,100
Tandem for Mike where I'm a
little iffy is is backer.

926
00:52:12,100 --> 00:52:15,200
Alan Tisdale is a talented
player but he's been very

927
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:20,400
inconsistent and he's been under
sized to play the position.

928
00:52:20,700 --> 00:52:22,700
Looks like he's put on a little
bit of weight.

929
00:52:23,500 --> 00:52:27,100
You know, the word is that but
becoming a father is kind of

930
00:52:27,107 --> 00:52:29,700
matured him a little bit.
So I wonder if that's going to

931
00:52:29,900 --> 00:52:33,100
knock out some of the
inconsistency in the game.

932
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,700
So we'll see there.
And then you got CJ, McRae

933
00:52:36,700 --> 00:52:41,100
coming in along, with Joaquin
Rudolph at the backup position

934
00:52:41,100 --> 00:52:44,500
there.
So we'll see how McRae kind of

935
00:52:44,500 --> 00:52:47,700
fits in and learns the system.
And then, I know looking rudolph

936
00:52:47,700 --> 00:52:50,500
is on On a position change.
So he's still kind of picking up

937
00:52:50,500 --> 00:52:54,800
the position as well.
So behind Tisdale it's a lot of

938
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,300
question marks as to how that's
going to work out.

939
00:52:57,500 --> 00:53:01,100
So that's why my confidence is a
little little hazy there.

940
00:53:01,100 --> 00:53:04,600
I feel pretty good about Mike
but a little iffy about backer.

941
00:53:05,700 --> 00:53:09,900
I'm at about a three and maybe
that's low.

942
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:11,700
Maybe that's a little bit more
pessimistic.

943
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:16,100
Maybe Papa Tisdale turns a
corner, right?

944
00:53:16,100 --> 00:53:20,800
Like maybe maybe it comes into
his own, a little bit again, you

945
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:25,300
know, all the talent in the
world and he's got a lot of

946
00:53:25,308 --> 00:53:29,400
potential, the inconsistency,
kills me at backer.

947
00:53:30,100 --> 00:53:33,600
And that's why I'm a little bit
low on the unit as a whole

948
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:39,100
because when you go to Mike.
Dax hollifield has been a little

949
00:53:39,100 --> 00:53:43,000
bit up and down.
And that that concerns me to

950
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,600
now.
I think that moving over to Mike

951
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:47,800
and traditional middle
linebacker position, I think is

952
00:53:48,100 --> 00:53:51,800
for the best for Dax.
He wasn't going to play that.

953
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:56,200
Obviously, a year ago, with
Ashby still in the fold.

954
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,600
I get that.
And I think he has an

955
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:02,700
opportunity to obviously, you
know, come into his own a bit.

956
00:54:03,100 --> 00:54:07,500
But I'm a little bit more
concerned about the wine backing

957
00:54:07,500 --> 00:54:11,300
core Pro depth standpoint to
just because we don't A lot

958
00:54:11,300 --> 00:54:13,100
about the guys behind him like
Dean Ferguson.

959
00:54:13,100 --> 00:54:17,000
For example, like I think he has
an opportunity and a bigger role

960
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,400
to play well, but it's something
that obviously makes me nervous.

961
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,500
If he has to take on a bigger
role than anticipate because

962
00:54:22,500 --> 00:54:24,600
dax's and live up to the hype at
middle linebacker.

963
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:32,500
If that's doesn't, but too.
To, to credit, this is Dax is

964
00:54:32,500 --> 00:54:34,500
natural position.
He's been playing out of

965
00:54:34,500 --> 00:54:37,500
position for the last three
years at backer, he was never a

966
00:54:37,500 --> 00:54:41,000
pathetic enough for on said,
numerous times deck, me where he

967
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,300
needed to be.
There was just tons deck was one

968
00:54:43,300 --> 00:54:47,100
step.
They're too late or, you know,

969
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:49,700
didn't have the right angle
because he didn't have the speed

970
00:54:49,700 --> 00:54:52,000
to get there.
We're missed the tackle.

971
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:59,400
Sorry, I missed that, that's
good.

972
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:03,000
And I think Tuesday, Is your
prototypical back his long as

973
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:06,600
he's somewhere between 220 and
230, not 2005, and to 10.

974
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:10,100
Because if he's small, it's an
even bigger issue this year but

975
00:55:10,100 --> 00:55:12,900
I gave this with you Mike.
I'm a three it's not because I

976
00:55:12,908 --> 00:55:14,800
don't trust his daelim Dax I
trust them.

977
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:18,100
I think those guys could be an
excellent unit if they don't get

978
00:55:18,100 --> 00:55:19,800
hurt but it's a linebacker
position.

979
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:21,600
You're flying in there.
You're using your body.

980
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:25,700
You're trying to fill gaps at
the mic position you feel okay

981
00:55:25,700 --> 00:55:28,000
between Dean and kashan.
You're like look if this could

982
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,200
work we can move, unfortunately
Dax back.

983
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:34,100
Backer.
But if backer you know if it's

984
00:55:34,100 --> 00:55:37,800
just it's like as soon as one of
those guys gets hurt you're like

985
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:43,900
shit.
Yeah yeah to say it's like in

986
00:55:44,100 --> 00:55:47,700
this wasn't a big room to begin
with it's to me the last two or

987
00:55:47,707 --> 00:55:50,500
three years it's been
significantly under recruited.

988
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:52,100
Yep.
And I believe it's in CJ.

989
00:55:52,100 --> 00:55:54,000
McRae coming in and that's
great.

990
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:57,400
Maybe he's someone that You look
at his you look at the size.

991
00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,500
You feel like he is a backer
Joaquin.

992
00:55:59,500 --> 00:56:02,700
Was a backer, you know, what do
they start a lot of loss in it.

993
00:56:02,900 --> 00:56:05,400
They start him it back or they
move him to end immediately.

994
00:56:05,700 --> 00:56:09,100
Oh my God, you guys know I'm
sorry, I'm sorry.

995
00:56:09,100 --> 00:56:13,900
You guys know how I feel about
Lawson Awesome Blossom.

996
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:17,200
Everybody loves welcome because
we live in so many different

997
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:20,000
ways because you see him and say
good more he could beat

998
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,300
remaining, right?
He could be germane.

999
00:56:22,300 --> 00:56:24,800
If he puts 15 pounds on 20
pounds on, he could be germane.

1000
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:28,300
But then the Other Parliament,
says shit.

1001
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:32,000
He could beat remaining 2.0
people.

1002
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:36,500
We know I am and looked at the
versatility that you guys were

1003
00:56:36,500 --> 00:56:41,200
talking about, is that the big
thing for me and you guys will

1004
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:44,800
remember factor in quarantine,
we were all locked inside, and

1005
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:46,900
we're all on Twitter way more
than we should be.

1006
00:56:47,500 --> 00:56:51,300
I made the comparison that
Lawson had a little bit of

1007
00:56:51,300 --> 00:56:55,600
Isaiah Simmons in him, and I got
dragged for me.

1008
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:58,800
All of a sudden Austin's got
four stars.

1009
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:03,500
Now out looks so stupid right?
Like this is the guy, it has

1010
00:57:03,500 --> 00:57:06,300
that positional and all I meant
was this is a guy who has

1011
00:57:06,300 --> 00:57:08,300
positional versatility.
Everybody was like always got a

1012
00:57:08,308 --> 00:57:10,800
lip to Simmons, it's crazy, you
put that on them, that's not

1013
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,200
what I meant.
He's got versatility, he can

1014
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:17,000
play linebacker, he could, he
could play, you know, out in the

1015
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:18,800
flat, right?
I mean you can you can kind of

1016
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:21,700
line them up on slot guy.
You can play mat defensive Bank,

1017
00:57:21,700 --> 00:57:24,400
he's got the size and the
length, the athleticism like

1018
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,400
he's really talented.
Talented, and he's another bar,

1019
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:30,500
no type with a little bit more
speed, right?

1020
00:57:30,500 --> 00:57:33,400
And Bardot was kind of in
between positions, a little bit

1021
00:57:33,500 --> 00:57:36,900
Wasson, I think in between
positions a little bit and he

1022
00:57:36,900 --> 00:57:39,200
can be like at remain.
If you play him at linebacker,

1023
00:57:39,300 --> 00:57:42,100
he can be a more experienced bar
know if you line them up at

1024
00:57:42,100 --> 00:57:45,200
defense event, like this is a
guy that I think can really make

1025
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,300
a difference moving forward.
Absolutely.

1026
00:57:48,300 --> 00:57:50,900
So again it's on the coaching
staff to put him in the right

1027
00:57:50,900 --> 00:57:55,000
position day one, where he can
become an immediate impact

1028
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:58,400
player.
I love you, I lost and under

1029
00:57:58,400 --> 00:57:59,900
this is we're going off a little
bit.

1030
00:57:59,900 --> 00:58:01,600
Maybe a conversation.
We're going to be having two

1031
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:04,700
months from now, his
athleticism.

1032
00:58:05,100 --> 00:58:09,000
If that guy's not on every
special teams unit every

1033
00:58:09,100 --> 00:58:12,700
freaking game, your one, then
you failed it, he's six foot

1034
00:58:12,700 --> 00:58:14,000
four.
He's probably going to come in

1035
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:19,200
about 215, 220 pounds, right?
You can jump out of the room

1036
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,300
those training tapes.
When he did some of those box

1037
00:58:21,300 --> 00:58:24,900
jumps, like he was Box jumping
where you seek to lead your kids

1038
00:58:24,900 --> 00:58:26,500
boxed up.
When either junior in high

1039
00:58:26,500 --> 00:58:31,800
school So, like, getting in, on
the punt block units on the

1040
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:36,000
field units, he clearly can help
you again.

1041
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:37,600
It's trusting the coaching staff
to do it.

1042
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:42,400
All right, so we all feel
terrible about the line

1043
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:46,600
measured.
You guys are a little bit higher

1044
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:52,200
on tax and I am, I love Dax.
I just He's been kind of bounced

1045
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:54,500
around a little bit hopefully he
finds some stability at middle

1046
00:58:54,500 --> 00:58:55,700
linebacker.
I think that's where he's best

1047
00:58:55,700 --> 00:58:59,700
suited anyway that's that's the
hope I feel like you know I

1048
00:58:59,707 --> 00:59:03,100
think we saw a little bit from
him last year as the season went

1049
00:59:03,100 --> 00:59:06,800
on start of the year, he was not
playing well at all.

1050
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:11,000
I think his last like three or
four games, he probably played

1051
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,000
his best football, the of the
year.

1052
00:59:13,500 --> 00:59:17,300
And I'm hoping that going to his
more natural position is going

1053
00:59:17,300 --> 00:59:20,600
to be the thing that he needs to
kind of turn the corner.

1054
00:59:21,900 --> 00:59:25,700
With his with his overall career
because I mean he's had a decent

1055
00:59:25,700 --> 00:59:28,900
career but in terms of like
where the expectations were

1056
00:59:28,900 --> 00:59:32,200
year, one definitely has not
lived up to that level of

1057
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:37,400
height.
It's true, it's true.

1058
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:41,000
And I think being the out of
position thing was the big thing

1059
00:59:41,300 --> 00:59:45,800
and personally you said it
earlier, I love but to death.

1060
00:59:46,100 --> 00:59:50,200
I think Bud should have been
Smart in 18 and realized I need

1061
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:53,000
to let decks it because God's
not going to is not going to get

1062
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:54,800
his maximum time at the
position.

1063
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:56,800
He is best for.
Yep.

1064
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:02,100
And yeah, me, it's hurt Dax.
It's hurt us.

1065
01:00:02,100 --> 01:00:03,700
It's heard the program in some
way.

1066
01:00:04,100 --> 01:00:06,800
Yeah.
Let's roll on, if you're good,

1067
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:09,800
everybody good.
Anything else on linebackers, by

1068
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:14,200
the way, we good, by the way, if
he Ferguson does get in and he

1069
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,500
hit somebody, I think he is
going to physically hurt

1070
01:00:16,500 --> 01:00:20,200
somebody because Dean just like
he looks mean, he looks old

1071
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:22,700
school like I'm gonna hit you
and then probably stand over

1072
01:00:22,700 --> 01:00:25,900
you, he's much more.
He's he's much more like an ash

1073
01:00:25,900 --> 01:00:30,500
be than then the dax's I will
say that he's got a little bit

1074
01:00:30,500 --> 01:00:34,300
of a little B, B to him.
All right, let's roll.

1075
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:39,700
I want two safeties and whips.
Braun.

1076
01:00:39,700 --> 01:00:41,600
Leave this one for us, man.
Where are you looking at

1077
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:45,000
safeties and whips with the big
news this week.

1078
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:48,800
Devin hundred back on the team.
It's a little find some depth

1079
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,700
there.
I tell you.

1080
01:00:51,700 --> 01:00:58,000
I feel I feel pretty good.
I'm giving this a seven between

1081
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:01,300
the nickel with position, which
Amari in this year, people's

1082
01:01:02,500 --> 01:01:07,400
boundaries safety, you got you
know potentially Hunter back in

1083
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:10,100
there.
You got Not take a daily that

1084
01:01:10,100 --> 01:01:12,600
could work in there.
Potentially Devon Taylor coming

1085
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:15,800
back.
He's going to probably work with

1086
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:19,700
both the safeties and the in the
corners there since we've got a

1087
01:01:19,707 --> 01:01:22,500
little bit more depth this year
than we had last year at that

1088
01:01:22,500 --> 01:01:26,700
position.
And you got Kanto Jenkins had

1089
01:01:26,700 --> 01:01:29,200
saw some time last year played a
little.

1090
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:33,200
Well the start of the year they
had all the covid stuff happen

1091
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:36,700
and then kind of didn't see as
much of him as the year war on

1092
01:01:36,700 --> 01:01:39,800
and then you got Jr.
Walker that could work in there

1093
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:41,400
as well.
So we got to I think a pretty

1094
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:45,600
solid group and a probably about
three or four guys in the front

1095
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:48,500
line that I think could do.
Do a pretty good job of holding

1096
01:01:48,500 --> 01:01:53,800
down the safety position there
between Connor Tay Devin and

1097
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:58,800
chianti.
I like this group a lot, the

1098
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:01,000
Devin Hunter news changes,
things dramatically.

1099
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:06,700
Obviously, now, Devon Hunter,
you know, when he was recruited

1100
01:02:06,700 --> 01:02:10,000
by Virginia Tech, I mean Remains
the highest rated recruit in the

1101
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:13,000
Justin Fuente era.
I think it's safe to say now.

1102
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:18,200
We're three plus years in It
hasn't exactly lived up to the

1103
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:21,100
hype yet.
Now there's an opportunity now

1104
01:02:21,100 --> 01:02:24,700
in front of Devon Hunter where
he's got a position that he can

1105
01:02:24,700 --> 01:02:27,500
walk down.
He's been given a second chance,

1106
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:32,600
i-i'm really happy for him.
I'm happy that the coaching

1107
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:34,300
staff gave him that second
chance.

1108
01:02:34,300 --> 01:02:38,100
I think, you know, not to go too
far into that but he showed

1109
01:02:38,100 --> 01:02:41,700
remorse.
He You know did what he needed

1110
01:02:41,700 --> 01:02:44,600
to do when he's handled it like
an adult and I think that should

1111
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:48,300
be commended.
Now on the football side, I

1112
01:02:48,308 --> 01:02:53,100
think giving him an opportunity
now to play safety and kind of

1113
01:02:53,100 --> 01:02:55,800
emerge in that role.
Like we have all wanted him to

1114
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:58,400
is something.
We would really like to see and

1115
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:03,400
bring Aunt a daily is a transfer
obviously played at Vanderbilt,

1116
01:03:03,900 --> 01:03:06,800
a very bad football program, he
was very good.

1117
01:03:07,500 --> 01:03:10,100
Yeah yeah, don't get it twisted.
Very good football.

1118
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,100
Player that they brought in
here.

1119
01:03:12,100 --> 01:03:14,700
It's safety and just because he
came from, Vanderbilt, doesn't

1120
01:03:14,700 --> 01:03:16,700
mean you can't play.
He can absolutely play and I

1121
01:03:16,707 --> 01:03:20,200
think you'll make an impact.
I liked what I saw out of Kiante

1122
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:22,600
Jenkins in a limited role early
in the year last year.

1123
01:03:23,500 --> 01:03:25,900
I think he had obviously has an
opportunity to play well Jr.

1124
01:03:25,900 --> 01:03:29,800
Walker is a guy.
I thought would play a little

1125
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:33,200
bit more than he did last year.
You know, he was in the fold

1126
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:35,900
little bit.
I thought he play more but yeah

1127
01:03:35,900 --> 01:03:40,000
I like the unit a lot safety and
whip and Shamari.

1128
01:03:40,100 --> 01:03:42,900
Sure I know is obviously going
to going to play a lot and

1129
01:03:42,900 --> 01:03:44,500
they'll move him all around the
secondary.

1130
01:03:45,300 --> 01:03:47,100
But yeah I like this here at a
lot confidence.

1131
01:03:47,100 --> 01:03:51,400
Level is about a 6 because even
if they have to play young guys,

1132
01:03:51,500 --> 01:03:53,200
I'm confident they can get the
job done.

1133
01:03:53,700 --> 01:03:56,000
Because if Quixote Jenkins plays
a little bit more than we

1134
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:59,000
expect, I'm okay with that.
Like yeah, I think he can be a

1135
01:03:59,008 --> 01:04:01,300
really good player down the line
for Virginia Tech.

1136
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:03,600
Hopefully he stays with the
program doesn't transfer.

1137
01:04:04,100 --> 01:04:07,500
I hope that they kind of what
his pallid enough.

1138
01:04:07,500 --> 01:04:09,900
Right.
And get him enough snaps because

1139
01:04:09,900 --> 01:04:12,200
I think I think he has potential
to be a really good safety here

1140
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:14,900
but yeah I really like this here
at a lot.

1141
01:04:14,900 --> 01:04:18,500
A lot of potential and the
ceiling gets raised

1142
01:04:18,500 --> 01:04:20,600
exponentially.
When you add a guy like Devin

1143
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:23,100
Hunter back into the room with
all the potential that he has.

1144
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:26,500
And the kind of recruit that he
was, I mean he obviously has the

1145
01:04:26,500 --> 01:04:30,700
athleticism and the ceiling to
get the job done, but it will be

1146
01:04:30,700 --> 01:04:33,600
really cool to see him.
Potentially get that opportunity

1147
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:36,900
to kind of shine like we all
expect him to Yeah, absolutely.

1148
01:04:36,900 --> 01:04:40,000
I'm with you essentially.
All three of us where I'm at a 6

1149
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:43,300
on this too because I think pay
daily coming in.

1150
01:04:43,700 --> 01:04:47,600
You lose, you know, Divine
Diablo in the back end, but you

1151
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:49,700
have a guy like, Daddy, like you
guys have said, he went to

1152
01:04:49,700 --> 01:04:52,100
Vanderbilt, not good football.
He was a big football player.

1153
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:56,000
Devon hunter in the thing is,
let's flash back to August of

1154
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:59,500
last year in the comments that
were being made Devon's ready,

1155
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:02,000
Devon's ready?
It was just like I think

1156
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,800
everybody you know connection
like oh my God he is going to

1157
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:08,200
take over the Rover, boundary
safety position and he is going

1158
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:11,400
to excel.
Then everything happens, he does

1159
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:13,500
all the right things.
He gets back in with the

1160
01:05:13,500 --> 01:05:16,600
football program.
So it not only bolsters that

1161
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:19,800
positions where you can say that
was the weaker of the two

1162
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:23,000
positions, because Kiante played
free safety last year.

1163
01:05:23,700 --> 01:05:29,900
And with this, you've got The
fun coming in and obviously he's

1164
01:05:29,900 --> 01:05:33,700
probably immediately going into
August, like y'all better be

1165
01:05:33,700 --> 01:05:36,000
ready because he's going to take
that position from whoever's in

1166
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:38,200
it right now.
Y'all thought he was motivated

1167
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:43,700
before watch now exactly and his
talented and athletic as he was

1168
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:47,200
that rooms ready.
The death behind him between Jr.

1169
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:52,100
Walk account, the genomes and
one person that y'all haven't

1170
01:05:52,100 --> 01:05:56,600
mentioned Galen strowman is
going to see sometime this year.

1171
01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:58,900
He's going to see a ton of
special teams.

1172
01:05:59,300 --> 01:06:01,700
He's going to see some on the
field with the regular unit.

1173
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:04,600
He's one of those guys I kidnap,
we went through guys.

1174
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:07,600
You mentioned collapsing at the
4 star month, if Jalen's

1175
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:09,400
permanent had a real season last
year.

1176
01:06:09,500 --> 01:06:13,800
JLo started would have been a
four star Without a doubt.

1177
01:06:14,100 --> 01:06:18,500
And You've already might you we
listened to some of the

1178
01:06:18,500 --> 01:06:22,400
interviews and we've spread some
of the stuff they're high on

1179
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:26,500
Jalen right now.
They are they really are and I

1180
01:06:26,500 --> 01:06:28,500
think you could play some too.
I agree.

1181
01:06:28,700 --> 01:06:30,700
They're going to find ways to
get him on the field for sure

1182
01:06:30,700 --> 01:06:34,700
and I don't know if I'm sure
they'll tow the line with the

1183
01:06:34,700 --> 01:06:37,300
four-game Redshirt rule.
Especially if there are no

1184
01:06:37,300 --> 01:06:39,700
injuries they're going to tow
the line there they're going to

1185
01:06:39,700 --> 01:06:44,000
mix them in if there's an injury
I think I'll play a lot more.

1186
01:06:44,700 --> 01:06:49,400
But listen, guys, as far as the
recruiting goes and as far as

1187
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:51,600
you know, some of these guys are
concerned with like Lawson and

1188
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:54,400
strowman in particular, there
are guys who really did not

1189
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:56,600
benefit from not having to
season great.

1190
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:59,400
Not having to see it at least
when they were really getting

1191
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:04,500
recruited.
And, and look, yeah, well, yeah,

1192
01:07:04,500 --> 01:07:08,500
and there's some really talented
players in.

1193
01:07:08,700 --> 01:07:11,300
Not only protects recruiting
class but recruiting classes

1194
01:07:11,300 --> 01:07:14,000
across the country, there are
being overlooked because there

1195
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:16,800
weren't Because they're, you
know, weren't football seasons

1196
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:19,000
at least in the fall when they
were really getting recruited.

1197
01:07:20,100 --> 01:07:23,400
And I think in strowman and
Lawson's case in particular,

1198
01:07:23,700 --> 01:07:26,200
they have an opportunity to make
a huge impact even though

1199
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:29,400
they're rating might not
necessarily reflect it.

1200
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:31,900
Big Time.
Absolutely.

1201
01:07:32,300 --> 01:07:33,700
Yeah.
We were talking about that, like

1202
01:07:33,700 --> 01:07:39,100
not having the Camp's not having
a fall season and it's probably

1203
01:07:39,100 --> 01:07:43,100
going to impact you know, the
the 22 class just as much as it

1204
01:07:43,100 --> 01:07:46,400
has impacted 21, the great, you
know, we're going to we're going

1205
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:47,400
to see some of that
trickle-down.

1206
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:52,400
We're already seeing that, you
know, so many this cycle have

1207
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:56,800
kind of waited to commit before,
you know, this Dead period.

1208
01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:59,000
Kind of lifted, they can get
into these camps and they can

1209
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:01,000
get on campus and things like
Like that.

1210
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:03,600
Yeah and I'll give the staff
about look at the staff credit.

1211
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:06,800
I think there's some ball
players and their recruiting

1212
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:08,800
class.
I just got and I know the rating

1213
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:11,400
wasn't there.
It was an improvement from from

1214
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:13,300
the, you know, class, two cycles
ago.

1215
01:08:13,300 --> 01:08:19,000
I for sure, but there are some
ballplayers there and I know it

1216
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:21,700
wasn't the highest rated class
in the ACC.

1217
01:08:21,700 --> 01:08:23,899
I know wasn't as high as a lot
of fans would have liked but

1218
01:08:23,899 --> 01:08:26,000
there's some ballplayers there
and there's some guys have a lot

1219
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:29,200
of potential.
Yeah, it's one of those classes

1220
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:32,200
that potentially They're just a
winter as the head coach in

1221
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:34,700
through 24 years or not.
The people are going to look

1222
01:08:34,700 --> 01:08:37,300
back and there's gonna be some
guys there that are playing huge

1223
01:08:37,300 --> 01:08:40,399
roles whether he's the coach or
whether we have a brand new

1224
01:08:40,399 --> 01:08:43,100
coach Mike.
I see you're a very happy man

1225
01:08:43,100 --> 01:08:45,899
right now.
Your Bruins closed it out and

1226
01:08:45,899 --> 01:08:49,100
ot2 one.
So oh yeah.

1227
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:51,700
Good for Hamilton in.
I help it.

1228
01:08:51,700 --> 01:08:56,000
If we don't hear you like
stopping like shut up.

1229
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:58,200
We just scored.
I'm celebrating the drink.

1230
01:08:58,700 --> 01:09:00,200
You guys are Jeremy.
You guys.

1231
01:09:00,300 --> 01:09:04,700
Had Jeremy on here.
Like there is a weird 90 minutes

1232
01:09:04,700 --> 01:09:05,899
of Jameson.
Right.

1233
01:09:08,300 --> 01:09:13,100
It's a lot to live up to you.
That's right, there's times

1234
01:09:13,100 --> 01:09:15,300
where we're sitting here and
just Chad, the next thing, you

1235
01:09:15,308 --> 01:09:19,500
know, like he's like staring at
a game like Bron that son of a

1236
01:09:19,500 --> 01:09:20,000
bitch.
Just did.

1237
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:21,200
So and so Brian.
By the way.

1238
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:22,700
Braun.
We are a few minutes away from

1239
01:09:22,700 --> 01:09:26,100
your Lakers tipping off.
Yeah, yeah.

1240
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:28,800
Zero confidence in that.
Just like I do in the

1241
01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:31,800
quarterback room.
There is no play though.

1242
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:35,300
He'll be okay.
We'll see it again.

1243
01:09:35,500 --> 01:09:37,899
All right, let's go to the last
group guys and wrap this up

1244
01:09:37,899 --> 01:09:42,100
tonight quarterback.
And I'm going to, I'm going to

1245
01:09:42,100 --> 01:09:44,700
jump on this one.
I'm putting quarterback at a

1246
01:09:44,700 --> 01:09:49,500
seven between Dorian strong.
Great freshman All-American

1247
01:09:49,500 --> 01:09:53,899
campaign, hopefully, and I'm put
it at a seven out of six.

1248
01:09:54,700 --> 01:09:58,000
Hopefully, an optimistic that
your main water gets back to his

1249
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:01,700
2019 ways along.
Along with guys like Brian

1250
01:10:01,700 --> 01:10:05,400
Murray Armani Chapman, who got a
ton of playing time last year,

1251
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:10,100
the new man on campus today.
Do you harvest them out in

1252
01:10:10,100 --> 01:10:12,600
California?
I just feel like the depth of

1253
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:17,600
this room, they're good.
Could I want to see your main

1254
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:19,500
water and get back to that 2019
form?

1255
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:22,100
Because it's germane, Walter
gets back to that 2019 form.

1256
01:10:22,300 --> 01:10:25,400
My opinion is in the first two
days of the NFL draft remain

1257
01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:27,100
Waller will be gone off the
board.

1258
01:10:27,700 --> 01:10:31,500
That's my opinion.
Yeah, I think last year him

1259
01:10:31,500 --> 01:10:35,000
being banged, probably gave me
that seven because so many

1260
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:39,500
younger guys got the opportunity
to get on the field and to get

1261
01:10:39,500 --> 01:10:43,000
that knowledge that you can have
a thousand spring practices

1262
01:10:43,500 --> 01:10:46,300
actually being in the game
against the component, against

1263
01:10:46,300 --> 01:10:50,800
your competition.
That's how you grow the most I'm

1264
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:55,900
at Nate with this group.
Yeah, I'm high on this great

1265
01:10:55,900 --> 01:10:58,300
guys.
And I look and, and part of the

1266
01:10:58,300 --> 01:11:02,000
reason why I'm so high on the
corners in particular, is

1267
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:04,500
because you also have guys that
safety who can kind of slide

1268
01:11:04,500 --> 01:11:08,800
around, if their depth issues
and injuries one guy that I

1269
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:11,900
didn't mention.
And I don't think you guys

1270
01:11:11,900 --> 01:11:15,600
mentioned either, Devon Taylor.
Like I mentioned him in the

1271
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:18,500
safety group, I was saying he
could play call our safety here

1272
01:11:18,500 --> 01:11:21,200
now down and out.
Listen, now if he plays some

1273
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:24,700
corner where like he had to
slide and safety last year on

1274
01:11:24,700 --> 01:11:28,600
the Sesame, if you play some
corner, I mean, we're cooking

1275
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:31,400
with gas and then you got DJ
Harvey as a freshman.

1276
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:36,600
You got your main Waller.
This is a really talented group,

1277
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:38,700
guys.
Free on Marie.

1278
01:11:38,700 --> 01:11:40,800
I think Briana Marie's,
fantastic.

1279
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:42,700
Dorian.
Strong obviously freshman

1280
01:11:42,700 --> 01:11:43,900
All-American, really good
player.

1281
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:47,700
Free on Marie if he doesn't get
covid.

1282
01:11:47,700 --> 01:11:51,000
I mean, he's an all ACC player
last year without Waller in the

1283
01:11:51,008 --> 01:11:54,300
fold and he got kovin, kind of
things went sideways, he missed

1284
01:11:54,300 --> 01:11:57,200
a bunch of time but brie en mer,
he's a really good player.

1285
01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:00,300
There's depth all over the field
and the secondary.

1286
01:12:00,300 --> 01:12:06,400
And, you know, I mentioned, I
think I put safeties at a 6, I

1287
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:10,800
put Corners at an eight.
I think you obviously, if you

1288
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:13,200
average the group The Seven, I
mean this is the street, this

1289
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:16,800
rank the teams.
Secondary the defensive backs,

1290
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:21,100
the versatility, the way you can
mix and match their going to be

1291
01:12:21,100 --> 01:12:24,400
a lot of talented guys here.
This year, the don't play a lot

1292
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:28,100
of snaps, just because there are
too many guys for to few spots.

1293
01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:31,000
I wish we end again, roster
management, right?

1294
01:12:31,100 --> 01:12:33,900
You have a lot of really good
players here in the secondary.

1295
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:37,900
Like I wish we had that problem
all over the field then we're

1296
01:12:37,900 --> 01:12:40,300
like Clemson.
We got what logic players like

1297
01:12:40,300 --> 01:12:43,600
Jordan Williams who would choose
transfers in who didn't play a

1298
01:12:43,608 --> 01:12:46,300
lot of Clemson obviously really
capable and talented player.

1299
01:12:47,500 --> 01:12:49,300
We got to have that problem
everywhere.

1300
01:12:49,300 --> 01:12:52,700
Then we're cooking with gas.
Yeah, I'm right with you there.

1301
01:12:52,700 --> 01:12:55,600
Mike, I've got a as well
Jermaine.

1302
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:58,300
Well, we're coming back.
Hopefully fully healthy.

1303
01:12:58,300 --> 01:13:01,800
Ready to roll.
You got Dorian, strong had a

1304
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:06,300
great freshman campaign, Breann
Marie that you mentioned, it was

1305
01:13:06,300 --> 01:13:09,400
playing really well before he
was injured Armani Chapman is

1306
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:12,400
really talented even though he's
been somewhat inconsistent.

1307
01:13:12,500 --> 01:13:13,600
And then, you've got Devon
Taylor.

1308
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:17,700
That's With the depth that we
now have at safety, you know,

1309
01:13:17,700 --> 01:13:20,500
can slot in there at the
quarterback position where he's

1310
01:13:20,500 --> 01:13:23,400
more of a natural fit.
Then you got the young guys

1311
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:28,300
coming in between DJ Harvey and
a couple of the other younger

1312
01:13:28,300 --> 01:13:29,900
quarterbacks that we had in this
class.

1313
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:33,400
I just, I feel really good about
this group.

1314
01:13:33,700 --> 01:13:36,800
You know, you really got 55
players that have seen

1315
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:39,500
significant snaps at the
quarterback position at the

1316
01:13:39,500 --> 01:13:43,900
power 5 level, two of them that
have done it very damn.

1317
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:47,600
Well, and a couple others that
that working, you know, played

1318
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:50,500
well in spots, even if they were
consistent in their total

1319
01:13:50,500 --> 01:13:54,700
campaign for 2020.
What's also be realistic guys,

1320
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:58,000
Justin Hamilton actually had a
spring to install.

1321
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:01,500
What the hell he wants to do?
Yeah, last year it was on the

1322
01:14:01,500 --> 01:14:05,000
flight.
Now what do you disagree or

1323
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:06,900
agree with what he tried to do
to install it?

1324
01:14:06,900 --> 01:14:10,300
A lot of people will tell you
dude you should have you new

1325
01:14:10,300 --> 01:14:12,000
blood system like the back of
your hand.

1326
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:15,600
You should have stuck with it.
Maybe they win 8 games last

1327
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:16,800
year.
Maybe they wouldn't sell, maybe

1328
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:20,800
they have a better season and
we're not where we are from a

1329
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:23,600
Viewpoint of the coaching staff,
but he didn't.

1330
01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:27,000
But I think that also helps this
year because I actually can give

1331
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:30,800
you game footage against North
Carolina Clemson.

1332
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:33,500
Do you, where you messed this
up?

1333
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:37,400
This is in game and now we have
a spring to go practice it, make

1334
01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:40,400
it, right?
So, as we get into fall, we

1335
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:43,900
essentially put everything
together as we March.

1336
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:46,800
Towards Labor Day Friday.
Yep.

1337
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:48,900
Yeah and I think just to him and
talked a lot about like

1338
01:14:48,900 --> 01:14:53,800
streamlining and keeping what's
good and editing and things like

1339
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:57,400
that when he was talking some of
the off Seasons videos we've

1340
01:14:57,400 --> 01:15:01,000
seen so hopefully we'll see some
of that obviously just having

1341
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:06,200
the time and the actual on field
coaching that you can do with a

1342
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:10,700
spring with the full fall.
That's going to pay a bunch of

1343
01:15:10,700 --> 01:15:13,300
dividends and just having most
of these guys that have already

1344
01:15:13,300 --> 01:15:15,800
been in this.
This system to a point for a

1345
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:19,000
season like Curtis mentioned,
you know, I feel like they're

1346
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:22,800
going to be in a lot better
place than they were especially

1347
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:25,600
at the start of the season last
year but definitely, you know,

1348
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:30,800
for all I just think the quality
across college football and I

1349
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:32,500
know we're talking about the
Hokies but I think just the

1350
01:15:32,500 --> 01:15:36,000
quality of football in September
and October it's going to be so

1351
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:39,100
much greater this year and it
was last year.

1352
01:15:39,100 --> 01:15:43,900
I mean A lot of a lot of teams
season since start till mid to

1353
01:15:43,900 --> 01:15:47,600
late September last year and
then, you know, some teams in

1354
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:51,000
start to October and then you
look at the Pac-12.

1355
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:54,300
Didn't start playing until
November crazy.

1356
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:58,300
But like, when looking back on
it, I think about the quality of

1357
01:15:58,308 --> 01:15:59,800
football.
We soften the beginning of the

1358
01:15:59,808 --> 01:16:02,600
year last year, and I even just
Virginia, Texas across college

1359
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:05,000
football, again, the last year
to like the playoff.

1360
01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:07,700
Once we got the college
football, playoff, it was like,

1361
01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:11,600
all right, like beasts.
Teams are really good.

1362
01:16:11,700 --> 01:16:14,600
Like we've never seen good
football and it felt normal

1363
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:15,600
again.
You know what I mean?

1364
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:19,400
Yeah, and I'm hoping that now
with a real offseason and I

1365
01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:21,100
think this will be the case,
obviously, with a real

1366
01:16:21,100 --> 01:16:23,400
offseason.
You know, restrictions are being

1367
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:24,700
lifted.
Everybody's being able to

1368
01:16:24,700 --> 01:16:27,300
practice and bring recruits on
campus, all that stuff.

1369
01:16:27,700 --> 01:16:32,600
Like I feel like Ryan get a
better football season early in

1370
01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:35,800
the year than we did last year.
It was a weird year and I feel

1371
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:38,600
like we're just in Hamilton
particular being able to install

1372
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:41,900
your scheme and have guy.
Is be able to be comfortable

1373
01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:45,600
with kind of what they kind of
learn on the Fly last year.

1374
01:16:46,500 --> 01:16:50,600
I think there's an opportunity
for a lot of young guys to play

1375
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:53,800
early and play well and a lot of
the veterans play a lot better

1376
01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:55,900
than we saw a year ago.
Yeah.

1377
01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:59,600
I'll say one thing I know Curtis
you mentioned like you're

1378
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:03,000
choosing not to go kind of more
back to Budds elements.

1379
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:06,500
Once once covid, hit that was
going to be a hard sell because

1380
01:17:06,500 --> 01:17:09,200
you were already, you know,
mid-march you had already

1381
01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:13,400
started your Installation.
There was there's you no doubt

1382
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:17,400
have been full on, you know,
changing direction, Midstream

1383
01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:18,800
there.
So that would have been a hard

1384
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:23,800
sell for your players.
I feel like so you're damned if

1385
01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:26,500
you do damned if you don't in a
lot of ways, when it comes to

1386
01:17:26,500 --> 01:17:29,500
that, that choice that Justin
would have had to make it.

1387
01:17:29,500 --> 01:17:32,800
Is it and it was a tough choice
to make at that point in time.

1388
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:36,600
I mean, what's happened
essentially, the last 15 months

1389
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:40,100
is something potentially will
probably never see again.

1390
01:17:40,300 --> 01:17:44,500
In Our Lifetime like this.
And you talk about college

1391
01:17:44,500 --> 01:17:48,700
football.
If you don't remember, Hokies

1392
01:17:48,700 --> 01:17:52,300
essentially finish fall camp.
They're expecting a one-week

1393
01:17:52,300 --> 01:17:54,700
break, then we're going to play
the first game.

1394
01:17:55,900 --> 01:17:59,900
Who would break out happens?
It's pushed back multiple weeks.

1395
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:02,400
We're not going to see that this
year.

1396
01:18:03,100 --> 01:18:06,600
We're not going to see that this
year when Labor Day kicks off

1397
01:18:07,100 --> 01:18:10,000
until Thanksgiving night.
Is me.

1398
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:12,200
And Brian will probably be
sitting here at the computer me,

1399
01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:13,800
staring at the television
screen.

1400
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:18,600
Six drinks, deep screaming at
some West 4th, Cavalry game,

1401
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:22,500
because we decided to get on MGM
bets and decided to lay two

1402
01:18:22,500 --> 01:18:24,200
hundred bucks on it, because we
were going.

1403
01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:32,800
Yeah.
I mean, you know this is kind of

1404
01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:36,200
going off topic.
The full expectation is Lanes

1405
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:41,200
going to be full this year for
Lane Stadium, to me is a plus 2.

1406
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:47,200
When Virginia Tech there were
games last year that we're lost

1407
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:51,300
that a 10-lane stadium.
Full capacity would have been

1408
01:18:51,300 --> 01:18:53,400
wins.
That's my opinion.

1409
01:18:54,900 --> 01:18:56,200
Yeah.
Are you talking about Liberty?

1410
01:18:57,100 --> 01:19:05,400
Yeah, I was just yes, I'm
talking about because that game.

1411
01:19:06,500 --> 01:19:10,400
It's been mentioned in probably,
everybody's heard there was no

1412
01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:13,000
juice and egg.
Now, the guys didn't feel it.

1413
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:15,900
And everybody bullshitted
everybody set there and tried to

1414
01:19:15,900 --> 01:19:17,900
say and we'll go on a tangent
here.

1415
01:19:19,100 --> 01:19:21,900
Well, we're to play delivered
anyway with a fucking lost them,

1416
01:19:22,100 --> 01:19:25,300
open and fucking weekend.
No, they were, we probably would

1417
01:19:25,308 --> 01:19:28,700
have beat them by 20 1.
Don't give you this, but they're

1418
01:19:28,700 --> 01:19:31,000
the same team.
No Liberty played a bunch of

1419
01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:33,100
cupcakes, leading up to Virginia
Tech.

1420
01:19:33,100 --> 01:19:36,100
They were able to completely
install what they wanted to do.

1421
01:19:36,300 --> 01:19:39,100
Ooh, offensive ly Hugh freeze is
a damn good coach.

1422
01:19:39,300 --> 01:19:42,100
He is a damn good coach.
He will not be at Liberty next

1423
01:19:42,100 --> 01:19:45,100
year when they go down and
three, I don't know where he'll

1424
01:19:45,100 --> 01:19:49,200
be.
I'm sitting here thinking, man,

1425
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:54,500
he will be somewhere at a power.
Five job opening weekend.

1426
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:58,700
That doesn't happen, because he
doesn't have time to fully

1427
01:19:58,700 --> 01:20:01,600
install, and know how he's going
to run against Virginia Tech.

1428
01:20:01,700 --> 01:20:03,800
I agree?
I mean, he's not art briles,

1429
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:05,700
right?
I mean, he'll find a job, I'll

1430
01:20:05,700 --> 01:20:06,800
be all right.
Roughly.

1431
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:11,800
How many different servers?
Yeah, it's not.

1432
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:15,100
I mean, that he's don't don't
use the university.

1433
01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:19,100
Yeah.
Phone like there's a phone.

1434
01:20:19,100 --> 01:20:22,800
There were issuing you.
Yeah, because all the escorts,

1435
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:25,900
that's what.
Yeah, I mean he'll listen, he'll

1436
01:20:25,900 --> 01:20:27,400
get a job.
I mean people are going to take

1437
01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:29,400
a chance on Hugh freeze.
I mean, give me a break.

1438
01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:31,900
Is he's going to Liberty, win
nine, ten games a year.

1439
01:20:31,900 --> 01:20:36,100
I mean it'll be they'll find a
job Lane kiffin found a job.

1440
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:40,400
Like all these guys, you know,
they find jobs, man, like it'll

1441
01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:42,800
be, it'll be.
Alright, I mean, art, briles

1442
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:46,300
different situation but I don't
know.

1443
01:20:46,300 --> 01:20:50,500
It's, it's interesting.
I mean, I think this is a really

1444
01:20:50,500 --> 01:20:54,500
important year for Virginia Tech
obviously I think that having

1445
01:20:54,500 --> 01:20:56,600
fans back in the stands will
definitely help.

1446
01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:59,000
I don't think you lose a game
like Liberty.

1447
01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:04,000
If you got full capacity, I'll
pee comes down to a final play.

1448
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:07,800
That was weird and everybody.
I just want a bad coach.

1449
01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:11,000
I mean, to be quite honest with
you in the five years that

1450
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:16,400
Puente has been in Blacksburg
his x's and o's in my opinion,

1451
01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:19,300
have been okay.
I disagree with some of the

1452
01:21:19,300 --> 01:21:22,800
roster management stuff.
Yeah but in game situational

1453
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:26,800
football by and large in five
years, I've actually been okay

1454
01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:30,200
with and that hasn't been the
issue for me with him, it's been

1455
01:21:30,300 --> 01:21:33,400
the recruiting.
It's been the persistence to

1456
01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:36,800
stick with your guys when you
know that they're not Your guys

1457
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:41,100
being your staff by the way,
when you know that they may not

1458
01:21:41,100 --> 01:21:43,600
necessarily be the people for
the job.

1459
01:21:45,500 --> 01:21:47,700
The hardheadedness has bothered
me a lot.

1460
01:21:47,900 --> 01:21:50,500
Okay.
So first the in-game X's and

1461
01:21:50,500 --> 01:21:54,400
O's, I've honestly been okay
with for the most part.

1462
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:58,100
I think you spend a, he's been a
fine coach from that standpoint.

1463
01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:01,500
I think he knows football.
I think we're not standpoint,

1464
01:22:01,500 --> 01:22:04,800
he's a good football coach,
there's other stuff.

1465
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:06,900
I worry about the people, man.
Management.

1466
01:22:06,900 --> 01:22:09,800
The Ross that you know the
roster management as well when

1467
01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:14,200
you extend it to actual players
and then the recruiting has been

1468
01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:17,400
a problem in college football.
You're totally made by

1469
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:19,300
recruiting.
I mean, there are a lot of a lot

1470
01:22:19,300 --> 01:22:22,000
of good there.
A lot of just okay.

1471
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:24,800
Coaches that make their hey on
recruiting and they're just good

1472
01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:27,500
recruiters and they stick around
for a long time when he's not

1473
01:22:27,500 --> 01:22:29,900
one of them.
So he's got to find a way to

1474
01:22:30,300 --> 01:22:32,700
kind of Remedy that I just don't
know again, I don't know if he's

1475
01:22:32,700 --> 01:22:33,700
going to have the time, you
know?

1476
01:22:34,500 --> 01:22:37,600
It's true.
And but the thing is, you talk

1477
01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:41,300
about his recruiting.
We've seen like when it leaked

1478
01:22:41,300 --> 01:22:44,100
last years in a row Pollard
video from the locker room

1479
01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:46,200
internet.
Yep.

1480
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:49,900
You sit here and say, dude, if
you take that and let the

1481
01:22:49,900 --> 01:22:52,400
public, see it, people are going
to love you.

1482
01:22:52,500 --> 01:22:54,900
You show fire, you show
compassion.

1483
01:22:55,500 --> 01:22:58,700
It's like he's one of these guys
that has a probably behind

1484
01:22:58,700 --> 01:23:03,100
closed doors has a personality
that would turn on 95% of

1485
01:23:03,100 --> 01:23:06,700
people.
In someone's telling him or

1486
01:23:06,700 --> 01:23:08,900
maybe behind the scenes in his
mind.

1487
01:23:08,900 --> 01:23:11,500
Well, I can't do this.
I have to do things different

1488
01:23:11,500 --> 01:23:15,300
where it should be.
Just go be yourself because if

1489
01:23:15,300 --> 01:23:18,400
you're making the players buy
into you which again we see some

1490
01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:20,800
of those videos.
It looks like the locker room, a

1491
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:22,400
lot of times and bought into
him.

1492
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:25,800
You've got to get the fans to
buying.

1493
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:27,800
You got to get the recruiting,
you don't like it.

1494
01:23:27,808 --> 01:23:31,100
That's fine.
Essentially, a lot of head

1495
01:23:31,100 --> 01:23:33,600
coaches, don't like it.
But what they learned to master

1496
01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:37,000
is they learn to master the
final cell and they walk through

1497
01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:40,300
that front door, the kids living
room and they sell it to the

1498
01:23:40,308 --> 01:23:43,000
parents and that's what he's got
to learn.

1499
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:46,700
My bigger thing with him, the
roster management is bad.

1500
01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:48,800
The coaching staff Management's
worse.

1501
01:23:49,300 --> 01:23:52,100
Let us basket.
But Alabama, the day Holloman

1502
01:23:52,100 --> 01:23:54,200
Williams.
Got that call from He should

1503
01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:55,700
have looked at Brad.
Poor Nelson and said you're

1504
01:23:55,700 --> 01:23:58,400
getting a co-offensive
coordinator holliman's going up.

1505
01:23:58,900 --> 01:24:01,500
Yep, gonna pay Holloman.
More housing was his best

1506
01:24:01,500 --> 01:24:06,100
recruiter and clearly we have
seen a steady decline in wide

1507
01:24:06,100 --> 01:24:10,200
receiver flakes in Solomon left.
With the exception of blocking

1508
01:24:10,300 --> 01:24:13,000
his Jafar Williams, can teach
some fucking blocking for his

1509
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:17,200
body, is wide receivers block
their ass off.

1510
01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:20,900
They don't get a lot of catches
block their ass, that's for damn

1511
01:24:20,900 --> 01:24:24,800
sure.
The other pieces, this is this

1512
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:27,400
goes back a long time ago, Mike
probably when you were born or

1513
01:24:27,400 --> 01:24:29,800
right before you were born with
me with you and Donald pups.

1514
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:34,600
This is similar to 1993.
And it's a place where Frank

1515
01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:38,500
Beamer was against the wall, the
Ada gave him the vote of

1516
01:24:38,500 --> 01:24:41,400
confidence.
Now, Frank that year made some

1517
01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:44,100
significant changes to his
coaching staff.

1518
01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:47,400
Yeah.
He essentially guys who had came

1519
01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:51,400
with him, he fired.
Yeah, but we didn't do it now.

1520
01:24:51,400 --> 01:24:56,200
Maybe for one day, feels maybe
some things change internally on

1521
01:24:56,200 --> 01:25:00,900
how things are done, and maybe
that's what he needs because one

1522
01:25:00,900 --> 01:25:02,900
of these, this is the way I
think.

1523
01:25:03,100 --> 01:25:05,300
Only us three is Hokie fans,
too.

1524
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:09,900
We both called for his job last
year, I called it after the

1525
01:25:09,900 --> 01:25:12,200
Liberty game, Brian called it
after the pit game, like, he's

1526
01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:15,500
got to be fired, you wrote the
damn article after the pit came

1527
01:25:15,700 --> 01:25:21,400
you do it was annulled.
It's over like I'm through we

1528
01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:26,500
are three fans though who agree
at a point in 2020, he should

1529
01:25:26,500 --> 01:25:31,000
have been fired, but we are also
three fans that sit here and say

1530
01:25:31,100 --> 01:25:36,400
I hope we have a good season
because it is harder to dig out

1531
01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:39,700
from the bar.
Bottom than it is to get your

1532
01:25:39,700 --> 01:25:42,500
way back to the Top.
If he has a good season, we're

1533
01:25:42,500 --> 01:25:44,500
not down to bottom.
We're actually on the way back

1534
01:25:44,500 --> 01:25:46,800
up.
We have a u9 season.

1535
01:25:47,900 --> 01:25:50,400
People can say yeah he's fired.
Fuck him.

1536
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:55,700
Y'all know how tough it's going
to be to overcome the look of

1537
01:25:55,700 --> 01:26:00,000
being under four games. 500 over
the last four.

1538
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:03,100
See ya you know how hard that is
to overcome?

1539
01:26:03,700 --> 01:26:07,100
Do you know, everybody says Nick
Saban and Alabama, go look at

1540
01:26:07,100 --> 01:26:10,200
the Alabama record leading up to
a Nick, Saban got there and even

1541
01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:13,800
huh.
It wasn't that bad.

1542
01:26:14,100 --> 01:26:17,500
It wasn't that bad but it still
took saving once.

1543
01:26:17,700 --> 01:26:21,000
Reason to get it figured out.
Yeah, he was getting some studs

1544
01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:23,900
in there.
Yeah, we go to Rock Bottom.

1545
01:26:24,100 --> 01:26:27,100
We are not the type of program
that is going to have the one

1546
01:26:27,100 --> 01:26:30,200
year bounce to be winning 10 and
11 games.

1547
01:26:31,500 --> 01:26:34,600
In some people don't realize.
Yeah, some people don't study

1548
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:37,200
the history of Virginia Tech and
don't understand until Bill

1549
01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:38,300
Dooley.
Got here.

1550
01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:42,000
Jerry clay, when was the other
guy that had significant 10

1551
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:44,400
years?
That was a really significant

1552
01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:45,900
and successful head coach until
do.

1553
01:26:45,900 --> 01:26:49,900
The games may not be took me
till 86 to give you the Peach

1554
01:26:49,900 --> 01:26:51,900
Bowl.
And then, well, obviously

1555
01:26:51,900 --> 01:26:55,600
everything came out that he was
doing a lot of shit under table

1556
01:26:55,900 --> 01:26:57,900
and fucked Frank's First Years
up.

1557
01:26:58,300 --> 01:27:04,200
So Don't always wish for someone
to get fired because if it

1558
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:08,300
happens, it means it's going to
be a bad season and it's going

1559
01:27:08,300 --> 01:27:11,900
to take a lot of digging to get
back to where we were in really,

1560
01:27:11,900 --> 01:27:14,000
where we were just four short
years ago.

1561
01:27:14,900 --> 01:27:19,800
Yeah, to two quick things.
The point you made about, you

1562
01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:23,600
know, wanting success.
I battle with people and social

1563
01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:28,500
media because I mean you guys
know this battle people at

1564
01:27:28,500 --> 01:27:30,900
Battle people on social media
because Like, oh, you should

1565
01:27:30,900 --> 01:27:33,800
want want a to be fired because
we should expect more?

1566
01:27:34,100 --> 01:27:36,500
Yeah, we should absolutely
expect more.

1567
01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:41,000
We should be, you know, how are
you absolutely sure.

1568
01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:43,300
The next guy is going to be more
successful in the guy we have

1569
01:27:43,300 --> 01:27:46,400
now, right?
And that doesn't that doesn't

1570
01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:48,700
mean that you don't fire.
The guy you have now.

1571
01:27:48,900 --> 01:27:53,500
That's not what I'm saying.
You can fire him but there's no

1572
01:27:53,500 --> 01:27:55,900
guarantee you're going to bat a
thousand when you hire the next

1573
01:27:55,900 --> 01:27:57,100
guy.
Yeah.

1574
01:27:57,100 --> 01:28:00,400
You should want the current guy
to have success and it's really

1575
01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:04,500
hard to dig out from the bottom.
Curtis, that's a great point.

1576
01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:09,600
It's really hard to dig out when
you hit rock bottom because it

1577
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:14,800
takes years to rebuild that
culture to rebuild that that

1578
01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:17,900
trust in recruiting that you're
doing the right thing.

1579
01:28:17,900 --> 01:28:20,900
You're making the right strides,
you got to want to have the

1580
01:28:20,900 --> 01:28:24,700
coach that is in place right now
to have success.

1581
01:28:24,900 --> 01:28:27,000
You know, there are people who
are negative all the time on

1582
01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:30,600
social media you know, talking
about recruiting be A door team

1583
01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:34,400
being bad.
Like, we can all see that, but

1584
01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:36,800
you talked about constantly
doesn't make it any better,

1585
01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:40,400
right?
Like, you got to want to have

1586
01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:42,400
success with the guys that are
there.

1587
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:44,600
Now, you got support the staff,
that's there.

1588
01:28:44,600 --> 01:28:48,000
Now, as a fan, even if you don't
believe they're the right,

1589
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:52,800
people, leave the lead the
program, that's a huge point.

1590
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:56,000
And then the one other thing you
mentioned Curtis about, you

1591
01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:59,000
know, Beamer and you know, the
early 90s and he made the

1592
01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:01,600
decision to Kind of fire the
guys on staff.

1593
01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:05,600
That's kind of the problem I
have with want a, yes, we're

1594
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:07,500
circling back.
This kind of total 180 from what

1595
01:29:07,500 --> 01:29:11,300
I just said, circling back to
220 himself.

1596
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:15,800
The difference between Beamer
and Fontes, Beamer pulled the

1597
01:29:15,808 --> 01:29:17,600
trigger on guys.
He was friends with.

1598
01:29:18,200 --> 01:29:21,800
So you did want a hasn't done
that, right?

1599
01:29:22,300 --> 01:29:24,500
Yeah.
Obvious guys, core Nelson and

1600
01:29:24,500 --> 01:29:27,500
get use engineered some of the
highest rated offenses and text

1601
01:29:27,500 --> 01:29:31,500
history, but it's the got it.
It's the place in the middle of

1602
01:29:31,508 --> 01:29:33,900
the game, right?
It's the roster management with

1603
01:29:33,900 --> 01:29:36,100
some of the guys were like, you
know what, they should get the

1604
01:29:36,100 --> 01:29:39,300
ball more, or you just start
this guy quarterback, your

1605
01:29:39,300 --> 01:29:42,700
quarterbacks coach, right?
You start at quarterback, right?

1606
01:29:43,700 --> 01:29:46,300
It's that kind of stuff that
bothers us with cornelissen.

1607
01:29:46,300 --> 01:29:49,200
It's not the play design you
know play designs.

1608
01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:52,400
Good.
That's real problem.

1609
01:29:52,800 --> 01:29:56,300
That's not the problem.
And you know people say is play

1610
01:29:56,300 --> 01:29:59,100
designs trash.
I just you know you discard that

1611
01:29:59,300 --> 01:30:01,500
discard that That that's, that's
not correct, right?

1612
01:30:01,900 --> 01:30:04,800
He's already brought.
I'll let the man.

1613
01:30:04,900 --> 01:30:07,100
I'll let the big guy talk about.
Yeah, we talked about his all

1614
01:30:07,100 --> 01:30:08,800
the time.
Play design is not the problem

1615
01:30:09,000 --> 01:30:12,100
when he's on, its how those
plays are called, the

1616
01:30:12,100 --> 01:30:16,200
sequencing, the situational
calling situation, those things,

1617
01:30:16,200 --> 01:30:20,200
and how to, as you said, how to
deploy the talent you have on

1618
01:30:20,200 --> 01:30:23,000
the offensive, your offensive
weapons, how you deploy that you

1619
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:24,600
get them the ball.
Exactly.

1620
01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:27,700
I played for a coach and
hampden-sydney that like he had

1621
01:30:27,700 --> 01:30:31,400
a very basketball buying said he
wanted to Get the ball into the

1622
01:30:31,400 --> 01:30:36,800
hands of his Playmakers as much
as possible and I feel like we

1623
01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:39,100
don't we don't do that for that.
I while we do that.

1624
01:30:39,100 --> 01:30:41,900
Yeah, well we do that.
And then the one, the one more

1625
01:30:41,900 --> 01:30:46,200
quick thing is and I kind of got
off-track there.

1626
01:30:46,200 --> 01:30:50,400
But the one thing I wanted to
finish with here is that went a

1627
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:52,300
didn't make the decision to fire
his friends.

1628
01:30:52,900 --> 01:30:54,300
Yep.
And you look at Brian Kelly at

1629
01:30:54,300 --> 01:30:56,500
Notre Dame in 2016.
They go for an eight.

1630
01:30:56,600 --> 01:30:59,200
You fired his friends.
All right everybody.

1631
01:31:00,100 --> 01:31:01,600
And I'll give you fire is
Friends.

1632
01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:03,300
You've hired the guys that
weren't his friends, right?

1633
01:31:03,700 --> 01:31:06,500
I've never cleaned house and
they've been averaging ten or

1634
01:31:06,500 --> 01:31:09,400
eleven wins ever since.
And they've been either in the

1635
01:31:09,400 --> 01:31:11,300
college football, playoff or
Fringe college football.

1636
01:31:11,300 --> 01:31:13,700
Playoff teams have been a top 10
team in the country ever since

1637
01:31:14,100 --> 01:31:19,600
and Puentes insistence on
staying with the guys, he's

1638
01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:22,800
friends with could lead to his
demise in my opinion.

1639
01:31:26,500 --> 01:31:28,100
I agree.
I agree.

1640
01:31:29,100 --> 01:31:31,800
Well my, before we wrap up, we
wanted to give you a little

1641
01:31:31,800 --> 01:31:34,400
opportunity here to kind of
promote anything.

1642
01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:37,500
You're working on, anything you
want to talk about will just

1643
01:31:37,500 --> 01:31:39,200
kind of give you the floor here
for a little bit.

1644
01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:44,100
Yeah, sons of Saturday.com.
Go check it out there.

1645
01:31:44,100 --> 01:31:47,500
I write a lot more during
football season and basketballs,

1646
01:31:47,500 --> 01:31:50,200
isn't that you right now in the
offseason but will be getting a

1647
01:31:50,200 --> 01:31:53,300
bit more into that now as the
off season progresses a little

1648
01:31:53,300 --> 01:31:58,300
bit basketball conference, Like
ACC football that's one of the

1649
01:31:58,300 --> 01:32:00,600
podcast.
I do just covers the entire ACC

1650
01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:04,600
so go check that out and then
for hokey coverage I do have my

1651
01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:08,500
own Virginia Tech football,
podcast, hokey hangover, go

1652
01:32:08,500 --> 01:32:11,300
check that out as well.
We recorded something actually

1653
01:32:11,300 --> 01:32:15,700
this afternoon on you 2D
situation and 700 returning.

1654
01:32:15,700 --> 01:32:20,500
So definitely go check that out.
We try to record about once a

1655
01:32:20,500 --> 01:32:23,800
week, but the offseason is a
little bit less frequent.

1656
01:32:24,700 --> 01:32:26,900
Yep, we know all too well about
no, that's terrible.

1657
01:32:27,500 --> 01:32:31,100
My we really appreciate you
joining us tonight and that is

1658
01:32:31,100 --> 01:32:34,800
going to wrap up this episode of
The Boundary Corner podcast on

1659
01:32:34,800 --> 01:32:36,700
with Mike.
McDaniels, I'm Curtis Wilson.

1660
01:32:37,200 --> 01:32:40,200
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1661
01:32:40,200 --> 01:32:43,900
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1662
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1673
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1674
01:33:27,000 --> 01:33:27,900
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