Duke Game Preview

0:45 Welcome back to The Foundry Corner podcast. I'm Curtis Wilson. I'm Brian Sigler, buddy. Wednesday night. We roll a little later tonight little later tonight man. Big guy over here. Had a presentation at 9 o'clock. At a bang it out and crush it. I'm assuming I'm assuming crushed done and done man. Done and done. Awesome. Congrats on that. You've been working on that project pretty much all fall. So to, uh, too long. Good job on that nail now he rolls in gets us rolling within like 15 minutes even more kudos to you.

1:27 I was expecting to be on at 10:30 10:45, but you're banging it, dude, you're crushing. Today, got a knock it out, fast man. Gotta get Gotta Get It rolling and yeah, it's, it was a, it was an interesting time. We kind of got there, a little ahead and did a little run through together before he went in there and went live. Live, but it went well. And now, we're here talking some Hokies talking Duke preview this week. We got some other big news. We're going to hit first, though. Absolutely lot to unload this week because it has been one heck of a week since we last talked on Sunday and we're going to start with basically all the coaching movement. I mean, let's start first with probably the big one and something hook you related tithe Grantham out at floor along with offensive lineman John.

2:18 Cvcc, Dan. Mullen was already on the hot seat. They get the doors blown off on by South Carolina. He cuts Grantham go. He had already fired members, a defensive staff. Last season. Yep. I mean People are going to say, well, what about Grantham to Tech? What do you say to that, Brian? No, no, no, no, it's not going to happen either. Any, there's a few things, I mean, number one, we look at just what's happened over the last few years with that Defense. Number two, let's talk about there's a reason that grant them hadn't had a head coaching job to this point. Heroes folks the wrong way.

3:09 He's not necessarily a guy that's going to wheel and deal with the donors very well. And he could be a guy that is abrasive enough with some of his staff that guys might not want to stay long-term. So I think those things are just playing into it where it just he's a at best a coordinator guy that can kind of Silo everything and work within a in his own world there but it's not somebody that Can really do all the things that you need from a coach especially at the power 5 level abso-freakin'-lutely. And it's I think the question is now ask is what deep with this move is Dan Mullen.

3:52 Essentially. Cool to see it a little bit. Okay, that's the question. Did he? Did he punt the the firing of himself out at least another season? Are they going to say? Alright, you did, you did the right thing here. We're going to give you one more chance to get the right guys in house and to at the very least when the games that should be winnable on your schedule. And that's the problem with Florida, this year is, it's not that they're not competing for SEC East is that they're losing games, they shouldn't. And that's the biggest issue. So it's going to to be really interesting to see, or is this a move pull by the athletic department to try to start cutting people off now to start the good people? I mean, it's going to be really interesting to see what happens after the Florida.

4:37 State game Thanksgiving weekend. Next one. Texas Tech is no longer open before when they cannot go there. John McGraw, get tired. He had been in a HC and linebackers coach at Baylor since 2016 with Matt rule. He stayed over into the Dave, Aranda, his big piece is he basically coach down at Cedar Hill, a pretty big Powerhouse down in Texas for close to 15 years. Earlier today guys all conversations like how did this guy get hired? He wasn't an OC. He'd never been. I guarantee you. Joey McGuire knows every good football program and good. Head coach in the high school room in the state of Texas, and if you have and you got to know it and that's the thing because Texas Tech isn't, I mean, they're really what you would consider.

5:34 I would say a third, tier Texas team Right. They're probably a hair below the TC using Baylor's, they Teeter, they teach ya. You're the cheater, I'll give them that. But, but here they are, your whole, at least in the last five, to ten years, you consider them a step below the tcu's in the Baylor's. Exactly, exactly. So if you're trying to compete against those other schools for profile profile recruits, you better have good relationships. In your state. And also with those good relationship, he's going to be able to find those guys that are flying under the radar for some of the, the higher up schools. So, I think that those relationships are going to play into this being a pretty good higher for them. I don't think, I mean, it's not flashy, it's very much a. I mean, it's probably a very Mike young higher, right? For them except except for for a guy that doesn't, he doesn't have the experience at that.

6:37 The head coach. Being. But in terms of a guy that's seems to be a good culture, fit a good person that knows the area that he's going to be handling a lot. It seems like that type of higher for them. Yeah, I think it's a good height for them because of what you said about the not the top-tier guys, but knowing the second and third, tier recruits out of Texas to start building the program. That program can be good. We saw it under my cleats, for basically a decade until Craig. James has kid basically got him fired. Tired and they have been nothing since then. Yep. All right. So you know it continues to go on Jimmy Lake in playing on Washington.

7:19 He's only been there for two seasons. John Donovan out is OC, not really affecting too much. This is not an East Coast thing, but I think you see a trend here and when we get to the last one is the big one. That what, what could have saved just in one day? These guys are doing, right? Yeah. You see a, you see a underperforming part of your team cut the guy? Let him go. That's the only way you're going to be saved. Is because it's Tonight in action, when you attempt to take action on something that is a problem. Most people say he can recognize it, we have to give him more time to see if he actually can fix it but you know Lakes a defensive guy so him him being a head coach just chopping off saying I don't want to say this I feel like it but ever would have became a head coach. This would have happened real quick in Blacksburg record-keeping teams to 18 points. And we're losing your car.

8:20 Yeah. And I think you know we've talked about it a whole lot with with getting rid of break or Nelson. We said it as early as the end of 2018, you could have made the call definitely is as early as end of 2019 when it took Jerry kill coming in and essentially holding his hand through the rest of the season to really muster an a twin campaign when, you know, expectations were fairly High. And early early returns were as about as low as you can. Imagine. Exactly. And that brings us to the other one to the other vacancy that we thought was going to be. And now is not because Scott Frost brought the hammer down fired. The Osceola line coach quarterback coach running back. Coach wide.

9:09 Receiver coach is like saved, can you imagine the wide receiver coach? Like sitting there. And coaches called the o.c. and shitty fired him. Next guy. And way. Did the o.c. coach wide receivers that might be? No. No, I don't think so. I think he was okay, but he went hammer down, it only really been there to normal years If we if we're taking covid year aside he'd only been there, two normal years. What he's doing is typically what happens in third years of most programs that are under achievement You clean the, a clean house. Because of covid, you know, we're on a different timeline. I'm sure his thought was weird season last year, I want to see where we go this year because they're not losing games because of their defense there.

10:08 I mean they held down and I know there were some injured guys, on Ohio State. The hello, how is take the 23? That's impressive. They kept it close enough where they had a chance at the end to make something happen and they just they couldn't couldn't get it going. So he absolutely brings the hammer down and I think with that you can say Nebraska is he on a hot seat going into next year likely going to his year five but I think what he's did is he's giving himself the opportunity to wear. If they put a winning season together he extends it one year by saying you made the Right Moves. Put yourself in a good winning position and now we're going to give you. You have a decent season.

10:51 You get one more season to really Excel if we can get to 8:00 or Next year, then he probably is safe. Keeping a job again. Take as long as they see, some sort of upward trajectory with these changes, I think they'll probably let it ride. So what is it? Can I ask you this? Let's yeah, let's go to Scott Frost. How easy would have fit that? Be for Justin Fuente to go in their experience offensive coordinator? Who's been a head coach who, you know, know how to run offense, you know, get some of the stuff he does. It has some pieces of what frosted it UCF, not everything, but there's some, there's some variations, there's some overlap.

11:34 You think about the area? He would probably bring Vice with them and like them Berg being a Nebraska guy. That's an interesting thing. Again, in lot of this depends on whether Fuente is wants to continue being a head coach or whether he would prefer to be a powerful Ally of coordinator. He's not going to head coach job right now. He's not, not even, not even G5. No. Okay, unless he wants to scrape bottom of the barrel like Bowling Green. I mean I mean or accurate like one of these absolutely dumpster fire programs.

12:17 He's not doing a good piece of G5, he's not good in a good G5 job, okay? Getting that makes sense. He's not he's so he's essentially not getting the any of the puddle jump openings that are coming open. Exactly. He's not going to get those because I think what's going on with him is he's going to have to prove to because the, a do 80s at those schools, especially you think about SMU and schools like that they're making money. They're having good attendance. They're competing they're getting ranked. You want to come in here after what you did there when you was set up with a great situation and you go on down to the really low.

12:57 Rung, Texas states, where basically, these are 12 to win teams and see what you can do, maybe you can come back up eventually. So that's my opinion on it. You're probably not far off, man. I mean, we'll see that's going to be it's going to be one of those things. I know some people will not when he gets fired. Will not follow him. I will. I will see, I want to see what he does elsewhere and to see if it was truly, was it a, was it a truly bad fit? Or was some of his coaching methods, essentially, 10 years old and didn't work anymore.

13:39 And some of them, I'd be it, just think things that you can things that your choices you don't have to make as an offensive coordinator. Now it they fall in your lap and he just not prepared to have the right culture fit to make those those work long-term. ERM absolutely. And some of that is how things are relating with players, some of its how punishments are being handed down. And so some of that's been out of his hands but some of it has been in. His hands has been potentially questionable as far as how things were handled. So and that's that's things as a head coach that you don't necessarily have to think about too much as a coordinator.

14:21 Exactly. So some of those things get taken off his plate. Exactly. All right, let's roll on here. College football, playoff rankings, come out last night, and here's the order. George it, number one, no shock there. Alabama, stays put it number two, I don't know why we punished other teams for not having good games against inferior opponents, but not them. They are essentially Teflon. Organ jumps, one up to number three, Ohio state is now number four since he gets a bump up to number five, right outside in Michigan is number six.

15:04 Right, so there's something a little bit different this week than last week, right? Yeah. Last week, they talked about head-to-head matchups, that's why organ was ahead of Ohio State. This week. It seems like they do not want to deal with that with Michigan State beating Michigan, two weeks ago, Michigan State's it seven And I know it in the long run in the long scheme of things. It doesn't matter if Michigan State went beat Penn State, and they beat Ohio State there in the Big Ten championship and they're going to probably be in but it's just hope flip-flop, right? Like last week this really matters this week kind of matters just when we need it to matter. Well, I think that's the thing, it's very arbitrary when they apply certain rules.

15:59 Sometimes, you know, We talked about it last season, sometimes the extra Conference Championship game matters, and then sometimes it doesn't, sometimes flat-out winning your conference matters, and sometimes it doesn't sometimes head-to-head matchups matter. But if you're Alabama or Michigan, they apparently don't. The hamster in the list goes on and it wouldn't bother me if it was consistent. you know, if you have your criteria, you have your criteria, you know, and we've seen in the past that They care more about, I test than necessarily record overall record in terms of having.

16:44 Whether it's an extra win in the conference Championship Game, you know, whatever it may be fine. That's that's at least been somewhat consistent. But what hasn't been consistent is how they gauge head-to-head matchups with a similar record. Yeah. So if you've got I mean if you've got the same record you would think the head-to-head matchup would be kind of the trump card, unless the loss is a very bad loss. Yeah. Unless the loss is something like if Michigan state had lost to like a one-in-six Purdue. Yeah, like nope. They got lucky against Michigan and the luck ran out against Purdue, but in this case, they rank Purdue this week. Yeah.

17:26 So Oklahoma State. Eight, Oklahoma has to top 15 games in the next month. If Oklahoma beats Baylor and they beat Oklahoma State, and then they beat them again. They're in. Yep. That you can't keep them out. So this is the way this year shaping is why it should be 12 teams. Because the way this year is shaping, right now, the 12 team would be wait for sedating one. There, Texas A&M is the only two lost team in the top 12. Yeah. So again, it's more and more everything that shakes out in the next month in the end people are going to be like, this is why we need to go to 12 and they're going to probably get pushed hard even though they stopped.

18:17 If this, this is kind of the first year, I'd say that even the early early polls have been well, the early early Rankings have been controversial. Like really controversial and not just down the line. I mean, down the line is always been. Oh, I can make an argument that, you know, how the 10th ranked team, should be the sixth ranked team or something like that, but you but usually the first five or six are fairly written in pen. Yep, I've already barring any losses that happened this year. It's very, very questionable and it's showing the floor. How's that when you start having a number of head-to-head matchups against teams that are in that top eight range, right?

19:05 It's definitely trending towards they care a whole lot more about I test than they do about head-to-heads exactly. Right, we'll roll on and brine. The next thing we're going to hit here in just a little bit. I feel like we got to go deep dive on this. Probably in January, the new potential. Draft of a NCAA Constitution, essentially given more powers to the school different at each level, you know, D1 D2 D3. What do you think of it? Is it a step in the right direction? Or is it too late? Both.

19:50 It's absolutely a better situation than what we've been dealing with. This should have been addressed probably five to ten years ago if you want addressed. It five at five to ten years ago. You probably wouldn't have a lot of the problems that you're having now. Probably name image and likeness would have been a whole lot smoother of a transition. So yeah, I mean, I think it's it's a good move. It's just not timely know it's real but it's always something. You've always said about the NCAA, if they dare reactionary, they are reactionary. They are not a proactive organization, they're very reactionary organization and everything that's happened in the last really 18 months.

20:40 It took them this long and to get this together, we're in reality, you said it five to ten years ago at worst three years ago they should have had something like this coming down the pipe, it will be really interesting the final version and I'm sure sometime in February or March when the final version is released and approved, will sit here and talk about an hour with it about everything in the grainy, yummy details. So, we'll move on from that Brian. I did not get to watch it last. Might but I followed closely on my phone. The Hokies men open the twenty twenty one twenty twenty-two season with an absolute curb stomping of Maine, 82. 47 first before I go? Did you get a chance to watch any of it? Or were you like me following?

21:32 I watched it from start to finish buddy. Yes, we are behind on Yellowstone and we had to punish season 3 last night. Add to I wasn't going to. I told wifey I was like, listen, we're going to finish this tonight. We'll stay up a little later so give me some details. Who look good, you know, look like much. Look good looks like somebody's look. Good David and look great. 7 for 7 from the field. 15 points, having having him look more aggressive at the offensive end is going to be great for this team. Front Court looked impressive.

22:12 And that's even with a looming, not really having his best night. So I'm really, I'm really excited about what I'm seeing there and I think this just from depth perception standpoint, I know there was some loss in the in the portal but guys are stepping up guys are moving into roles. So I'm hoping that that that Trend continues because you know, we put a kind of a second unit out there and we didn't see a ton of drop off. And the first unit is pretty damn good on its own. So oh yeah. The first unit really really good and some what I think I saw maybe it's Dave and cutting and someone said This is the type of Team, Mike young ones.

22:59 Yeah, not last year. Last year they played unbelievable with missing the key cogs but like the way this team is constructed is exactly how he wants it and you know, nguesso motion offense and yes it's on the three and and that that's definitely personnel-wise it aligns more with those values this year. I mean and you know they shot 43 percent from three. That's if they You'd 40-plus every game. They're going to be in every game. Yeah, every game did get out rebounded, always a concern. That's, that's the big thing. And it's interesting. It, there were a couple folks that were like selectively active and then there were a couple like I felt like position was given a little bit too easy.

23:49 That's definitely something that's correctable and that's definitely something that, you know, you can kind of work. And as the season goes along and probably a little bit of the, the defensive match up on the perimeter, could be better. But in terms of overall performance, I mean, there's not a whole lot to critique their rebounding aside. Yep, next game, Friday against Navy. Obviously, Navy coming off, if you didn't read, maybe beat number 25 UVA last night. So by game, they got a by game against UVA. Yes. Yes. So Friday night. Check it out. I think it's going to be, let's see. I think it is going to be somewhere to be 8:30 Friday night.

24:36 CBS Sports Network. There we go. So it will be on TV. All right. Brian the follow-up, entree. I don't know if you had a chance to listen to the presser any today or yesterday when it Yay. Nay I unfortunately have missed pretty much everything. Well, basically, this is what going to be said. And again, he never really acknowledged what he said Friday night and I wish someone would have put him to the fire saying when did you really know? Because like the way he was talking it's like he was at practice and he was able to run around and do things and he saw a specialist On Wednesday, he didn't really affect him while he was playing.

25:24 They said, they said Saturday night or Friday night when he was doing the presser. He had a tough time talking and he apologized to the press and he had similar things coming back home on Friday night from BC, flying down, but And it gotten worse during the week, the whole piece is if a guy's having any sort of breathing issues, are you really going to have any thought of putting them on a football field? At all. And I don't care if it's pulling, he's running around, he's fine. He's having issues breathing at times. You can't do that. I think that's why we got the wind. When we got the win last week was he has some problems breathing and I'm sure it was like yeah he's not going to play because if there is something wrong and he gets popped the wrong way.

26:21 And essentially on the field of play quits breathing. Yeah you got a lawsuit on your hands forever. Yeah. And you know that's the situation. You actually want to approach with caution any time. It's dealing with breathing heart, anything like that, you want to You want to take that slow and animal and make sure you're making the right choice there. So I'm not again. I don't want to beat a dead horse here, beat it, but just communication man. Communication and I think, I think that's the thing. I mean, the fanbase genuinely cares about Trey Turner, not just whether he's going to be on the field, but what's going on? Because we he's one of us.

27:08 I mean and how active He is on Twitter with with the fan base and just his outright love of Hokie nation in general. I mean, we feel that. So I mean, players like that, and not to Discount any other player, but obviously players that are like that and really taking an effort to engage with fans fans care about fans, want to know what's going on, and I'm not saying you gotta your divulge, every little detail about an injury, but definitely need to clearly communicate when you knew he was not going to go. Because once you once you did once you communicated at very, vaguely then people started asking questions and I'm sorry, but I'll say this again, we're beyond the point where Fuentes getting benefit of the doubt from a majority of the fan base. So he's got a essentially account for that when he's making his statements as well.

28:07 Yeah. So again what he should have addressed was probably what he could have said and this would have been resolved with everything he was practicing, I thought he was going to play your point was it was a communication issue. Sounds like between him and the training staff. We're again, you have to tell it and I think maybe it's how closed off he is. The introvert. He is where those guys like, well, we need to tell him and like, but it's tough to get him yada yada, but we'll move on from that. It's going to be a great weekend up at Virginia Tech.

28:47 Brian, it's poke Hall of Fame weekend and there are seven. Folks going in going to mention them all here, just to give them a little Kudos. The first we look at Jackie develop Hendrick. She was a swimmer and diver back in the late 1990s to tie me 10, most outstanding diver. Still holds the school record in one meter diving off Time conference Champion. So obviously you know unbelievable there. Then we get into the track stars in man, I can still remember the name. Queen Harrison. I mean, if you are if you lived in the state of Virginia Union, who Queen Harrison was three-time NCAA champion and Olympian in 2008, you know, It to Beijing from Richmond. Just unbelievable star.

29:43 You know what more can be said about her in the mid-2000s. As far as Olympic track goes, at the Virginia and Virginia Tech, then another track star, Kristin Kathleen about the same time, period, 7, time All-American want to bronze at the 2016 in the 100-meter hurdles. You know, the most individual All-American honors for any Virginia Tech student athlete that crazy good. Now, we get into names, we all know, all know, and let's start it with basketball gym on Gordon. I mean Jomon Gordon and defense man. Oh yeah, time they CC Defensive Player of the Year back in 2006, 2007 on, you know, those are shaky years and they weren't the best years for Tech basketball was coming on the bill, but he was one of those guys who was there. You know, part of that team that pulled the upset Or is he won a game in 07 when they got on the tournament lost in the second round it's really cool.

31:03 Kind of seeing guys you know that we've seen go in and now we're going to turn to the three guys because the big three the first is he is d0 G of D. Bu Tyrone. Drake 3rd, 1992. 1993 All giggy's three times s and career interception, jet Tech won a Super Bowl with my beloved 49ers. He set the standard for dvu. He did he did, and he was one of those guys that came in, we, when we weren't a good program, and by the time he left in 93, his Mark was made in 1992. He intercepted seven.

31:54 Balls 7. I think I think Housley broke his record when he got eight back that year, he was named an All-American, 16 total picks. I'm looking at the some of the pictures here, the old uniforms, you know, you know. So let's break some Nostalgia back in the second round, pick, he played in the NFL for about seven years. But again, one of the, one of the, one of the, one of the Godfathers, one of the oh gee, oh yeah, stand up. Standard Bearer. Who you want to talk about next which of these two, which of these two hits, your heart man to it. These are two of my favorite all-time favorite Defenders. Our favorite all-time like atg, Let's start with Xavier adibi. The X-Man X-Man, the X-Men.

32:49 I mean, 603 2007. We might have seen every game. He played in multiple in person. Multiple in person, All-American part of the 06 and 07 ACC championship teams came here, brother, lineage And I remember talking about him when we did the when we did the Mount Rushmore men. Yeah, just Punk pops off of the tape. Like it's not you see him out there. Just big size can move and is really the kind of the Prototype that from thenceforth that the backer position was judged against. Like, how close is he to Xavier like that? That that's kind of the, that's the standard of everyone who came and you know, we had Tremaine Edmunds, get close to that very close and yeah, but the Godfather of the opposition, he really made that his own and really showed what a versatile. Acker could look like on the field between those big interceptions, he had big hits stuff in the Run, getting out in the flat and just lay in guys

34:20 out. That's what playing backers all about and he did it at a very high level. He did it man. And over, you know, 40 games in his career started, 291 tackles 34 loss, 11 sacks And all you gotta always look back at 2007, when literally, we were the number one defense in the country. I think they gave up 11 points a game 115, tackles 12 or loss, that means he's everywhere at backer. Yep. That's 10 plus a game which is just crazy to think about crazy to think about.

35:05 I'll let you do the honors with the last one here. Well, I mean, I got men are be a zone 5 star, high school, All-American from Highland Springs. From 2005 to 2008, he roamed the defensive backfield. And a unbelievable member of DBU and Macho Harris. Victor Macho Harris. Joe, you know, shout out to Charlie Christian, who was a coach at Highland Springs. When Macho was coming through the ranks there.

35:47 I mean, what more can you say is? First-team All-American? He won an ACC title his senior year, six interceptions, eight pass breakups. I mean and you know intercept, if you threw him his way and he jumped the ball, every quarterback feared, it was going to get house because he was that Dynamic of an athlete. If you that Dynamic of an athlete, he wasn't a five-star for any reason. I mean, No. He was our program boundary corner.

36:28 He was a boundary corner. Right. He was the epitome of it. Either can come up, make a play in The Run. You got is going to stick to you in the past. The guy that's going to house it. If he makes the play on the ball and and just intimidation Macho was a physical player. Yes, he in. And we don't see a ton of that and and he was as physical as a player at the corner position as you could have. But because he had the athleticism, he Play physical. He could do whatever he wanted. Yeah, he could play off, he could Jan you. I mean, he had forty six, tackles in that senior year for any defensive back to even get near 50.

37:14 It tells what Brian said, he's physically. He was not afraid to stick his nose and he was not afraid to go tackle someone so that group you know in general all of them deserve the honors but those three football players, you know, it's cool. To see them go in. It's Kevin. See guys like that go in and the last to especially for our generation and you know many of y'all are out there that listen that might be somewhere between 30 and 40 close to our age. These are the guys you remember we also reminisce about it because that's what we want to get back to. And, you know, it's possible, you know, it's possible. It's an uphill climb right now from where we are but it is possible.

38:03 Absolutely. Absolutely. We can get there. We can get there. Alright, Braun before we go into looking at knowing the enemy and Duke, we are going to take a quick pause for a message from our corporate sponsor. Because we take a quick break, we'd like to tell you about getting your free website report from our digital partner, Grassroots, digital marketing Studio. They'll tell you how your website ranks on Google on-site, SEO and social media. No commitment to buy anything. You can get your free report by visiting. Grassroots digital studio.com forward slash free Dash website, Dash report. Now back to the episode All right Brian, let's take a look at Duke here. The three and six Duke Blue Devils will give you a very scary thing.

38:49 Here, they are 0 and 5 and Conference. Last two teams we have played who have not won a conference game. They both made us their Get Right game. I hope that's not the case this weekend. Yeah, we've already given away to First ACC win of the years. So something we cannot, we cannot afford another one. Nah, not on Hall of Fame weekend and now on the on Senior Day, alright, not against Duke, not against. B. Oh dude, 1425 defense not a really good defense at all, you know, red zone, defense 110th, you get down there, you're probably going to score against them their best to testicle line is they are tied for 73 in sacks, about flew over to a game. One of the worst down And one of the worst third bounce top teams in the country.

39:45 It, you know, at 48 percent, they're giving up so. But they still have some players that have some good statistics and look pretty good on tape. And let's start with Dwayne Carter. Brian, number 90, High 3 star out of Pinkerton Ohio, six-foot-three 300-pound defensive tackles so far this year, twenty six, tackles four and a half sacks. This is the impressive. Number two, impressive numbers for me 4/4. Bowls three pass deflections. So in that big guy gets you he's trying to get the ball out and he is probably why he's getting some mention of seen a couple times when I was searching this week. And I fell Scouts NFL Scouts three pass deflections saying you're not keeping him here.

40:32 He's getting his hands up. What are you seeing on the tape from the big guy? Yeah, I mean he has an excellent pass rush for a nose and he has a good sense of awareness. That when if He's not there. As you said he's getting his hands up. He does a good job of when he gets to the quarterback finishing the play. That's why you're seeing some of those forced fumbles. He also holds the Gap pretty well in the run. So that's another thing to watch. He's not going to get moved out of the gap on the interior, they're very much and he's got a good motor for a 300-pounder so he keeps working at it. He doesn't give up on plays or anything like that. Is he one of these guys on the inside? That's not only getting production. But is he helping his outside guys out as well? Yeah, I mean they can't exactly on his side of the ball. They're not able to essentially devote an extra interior guy to help the tackle.

41:24 It's going to have to be a chip with a running back or a tight end. So essentially you're having to vote because of him you're essentially having to take someone out of the pass routes. To assist with them. Yeah. I mean the guards definitely going to have to give give a hand to the center, unless there's a blitz coming. So he's not somebody where you can let the guard, you know, work work in tandem with the tackle on any sort of block there. All right, so keep an eye on number 90 there in the middle, especially with the banged up Brock this week. You know, it's going to be definitely a big thing. All right, let's flip next Braun to shock a Howard. 42 amid 3 star, who's out of the Mill Creek, Georgia six-foot-four, 220 pounds Hurley, a tackling machine for them.

42:13 Seventy four total, tackles 94 loss including three sacks and interceptions whereas he will, my course, am he's the Mike. He's kind of the quarterback of their defense. He does a lot for them. He's their primary run Blitzer, he's a good tackler. He's only average block shatter. He doesn't do a great job of getting off blocks once he's fully engaged, but he comes downhill. Really hard, makes plays when that. That run blitz is called. He did, force that safety against Pitt. I don't know if you saw the that game on the tape there but turnover on Downs.

42:54 Deep in the end, their neck, very next play run blitz, he gets up in there. Stymies the lead Blocker in the hole and then holds up the running. Back until everybody else gets there to finish off the tackle and he does a good job in his own coverage. He's not suspect, they're either. He does a pretty good job holding up there. He will get beat if he's matched up against an elite athlete. But if he's matched up against a running back or a tight end or a slower slot receiver, he can hold his own. All right so it sounds like a pretty well-rounded linebacker there then. Yeah one we can't key in on and say well he's batting covers less attack there.

43:36 Although the way are passing game is look, that's not good and it's not obviously you talk about good tackler and average said of the blocker, sometimes at the Collegiate level, that's all you need to be. Right, I'd say the problem with running right at him is that you're also running right at the previous, man. We mentioned in Dwayne, Carter, so it's kind of a catch-22, but running right at him is probably the best option just because you can get it a man had on hat on him and force him to shed that block. All right, sounds good, let's look it over and let's look at a couple. Hello, guys, on the secondary here. Let's start with gloomy young.

44:19 The fourth number 23. A top 10 player in South Carolina when he came out a mid three. Start a Westside, High School, six 1205. Also some pretty good statistics here. 60, tackles only one pick but five pass deflections and two forced fumbles from him. I know you've told me, Brian, he is the Rover, so, he is closer to the line. What does he bring? Really good that we've got to look out for because again this isn't a bad defense but we're highlighting their best players that these players have good game. We're going to be in trouble. Yeah and I mean he's your typical in the Box. Strong safety, really good.

45:04 Tackler big hitter does a really good job. Making tackles in the spill area in terms of his coverage skills. He's much better in zone than he is in man coverage and Some of the stats, you spoke of kind of speak to that, right? He will get beat in man coverage, but in zone, when it's more read and react, he does a good job of getting an impact. At the point of catch, forcing some of those fumbles, breaking up some of those passes. So if we can get him matched up and man man situation, that's going to be the way to attack him, I would ask this. I would say we've been talking about it all year and they still hadn't done it, would this be a game? Game where we should be deploying like Raheem Blackshear given to back looks and appoint him to essentially force him to play him, man.

46:00 If we could, I think they do a lot of like, quarters that become man coverage depending on the route tree, they do some press man. It's a lot of at the line of scrimmage type stuff with the corners. We haven't got there yet, but we'll get there next, actually, but you just kind of going through their coverage. That could force them in some sort of mismatched situation where you get a guy that's maybe a little more suspect in man coverage. Judge with an athlete. That he's probably not comfortable covering. All right. Well let's go ahead. Let's let's talk about the outside. Who will he be covering trade Turner willing? Not, we don't know until probably Saturday 30 to 45 minutes before game time guys. Jeremiah Lewis.

46:46 Number 39 at a Plano Texas was a three-star. When he came out 612, she's in 1990 last year. He was a top ten past, deflector, past defender. In the ACC with seven this year 2:03 flexion. Two picks 22, tackles this far, and obviously, he is a cornerback. So what do you see it on the tape from him? He's the best cover Corner. They have. He's not necessarily Elite but he's very solid and coverage. Does a good job of sticking with man and based on their scheme and his skill set. They do a lot of Pressman. Again that comes into sometimes. Press press quarters depending on whether it's a zone or a man called there. But he challenges challenges receivers at the line of scrimmage really well and still able to run with the receivers throughout the route.

47:38 He is suspect against the Run especially if he's asked to set the edge. If he's if he's that backside. Edge Defender. If you have the tight end kind of uncovered by a receiver there where he's got kind of edge responsibilities. He does not do a good job there. So that's that's one area where we might be able to kind of scheme scheme. Him into trouble. All right, so Is he is he just staying with the best receiver. When you see him or is sitting more he's going to be to one side of the field. He primarily sticks to one side of the field, okay? He's usually to the right.

48:23 So it's so just the right? So regardless of where the ball is, he's always on the right side of the field, if it would be, if his band goes in motion, he'll Chase if it's depending on the coverage but he's more than likely going to stick with with the right side if it's a Zone look, okay, I only ask that because in those situations where if he's always on the right regardless of The coverage of where the sets or anything like that. Does that make it a little bit harder to attack him in the Run game? Because essentially, they, we know he's over here, we can send, you know, we can send, we can send you on over there. We can let the linebackers flow that way.

49:06 He's the liability, That's what I think that's why I'm asking that. Yeah, I mean you can kind of essentially try to hide him. But I mean, if you go You know, trips right with the tight end to the left. You know, we flip that that means he's the the right corner back on the tight end side. You know you're in a situation where he's going to have some enter sponsibility there along with man coverage against the tight end depending on the obviously the play call into the the scheme call for the, for the coverage. But if it is a either zone or something like that, then you put him in a situation where he's, he's staying on the right hand side with tight end and now you've got a mismatch got it. So let's hope that we can get to run to his side of the field, and definitely make some leeway.

50:06 There I'm Ron. Let's flip it over to the offensive side of the field for the Duke Blue Devils. And just just some highlight, everybody know it's a cut lip off thence, we've seen it for roughly 22 years to his credit. It's not stayed the same. It's variations of things. He did 25 years ago. Tennessee. It's wrinkles. You never know what he's going to throw and, you know, to me they are a tail really between the 20s, they're similar to us total offense there, 31 in the country, 443 yards game, they are getting a ton of yards.

50:48 But scoring their 90th. Only averaging 25 points a game. They're absolutely. They're worse than us in Red Zone. Efficiency at 101. 21, you know, only converting 70% of their chances. They are, but in the red zone. They, yeah, you have absolute. But it's definitely their past three. Passing touchdowns on 35 attempts, inside the red zone, Three. We got more than that. Yep, you look at their passing game. We don't even have a good offensive coordinator, but let's talk about the guy that makes this Offense Code, Mateo, Durant, number 21, a low 3 star out of McCormick South Carolina 61 195 already over 1000 yards. This year impressive.

51:38 Five yards of carry 11. Total touchdowns 9 running to receiving. He's not a one way back. Like we saw last week with BC. He can do it both 23, receptions over, 200 yards, averaging about ten per, what are you seeing? Because he's getting some Buzz where he might potentially leave correct. Yeah I mean as you said, he's already over 1000 yards, he's really the the second best Back in terms of production in the ACC this year, he's patient between the tackles has great vision, really good acceleration. If he runs to the edge, they like to swing it out to him in the passing game.

52:22 They'll also run wheels and stuff like that with and so it's not just a screen or a swing game. There's also some wheel routes thrown in there, but he does a really good job of get taking what the defense is giving them. And I think that's why he's been so efficient is because I mean that it's not a, we're going to talk about the offensive line, it's not up, the elite offensive line but he takes once there, he gets the yards and they line up and do it again so consistency. I'm assuming he doesn't get tackled a lot in the backfield, not very much a guy that is always getting some yardage. Unless that, you know, there's a perfect call on the on the defensive side with the run blitz.

53:05 He's getting some positive yards and he Is a good job of running through arm, tackles between those between the tackles as well. All right. Let's go next. Brian let's look at the quarterback. Before we flip to the offensive line Gunner. Holmberg number 12, pretty high. Three story came out of Wake Forest, North Carolina at Heritage High School 63. 205 passing has a little bit to be desired though. He's in you expect that with the really good running back but I think the ones that you would expect to be significantly higher 2034 passing yards and the nine games this year. But less than eight per attempt like 7.7 per attempt. That's having a guy that good run. You want that to be over ten seven, touchdown six pics, not really a running threat, only less than 200 yards, but he's averaging to a carry, but he does have six touchdowns. So he is an actual running threat down in the red zone. What are you seeing out of a home bird there? Yes, I'll start with a fun fact.

54:16 My wife taught with his mom when we live down in Raleigh. So we're definitely. Yeah, so fun fact. Number one, I knew, I knew Gunner Holmberg was going to Duke in like 2016 real 2017. Yeah. Well, so I was like, okay, well, you know, we'll see. We'll see if he ends up being a starter one day. Here he is. He's a starter, he's accurate, especially in the short to intermediate range, and that's primarily the bread-and-butter this offense. He's got good pocket awareness, he's got decent deep accuracy, but he lacks some of the true like vertical threat arm strength. He can definitely make a good throw 40 yards but he's not a guy that's really stretching the feel like that consistently and even when he's got.

55:08 Got an open guy. Sometimes he sacrifices accuracy for distance and vice versa, so you'll see some trade-off when he tries to strike deep down, the field like that, okay. Is that really a threat in the running game but he's got enough athleticism to scramble when needed and they use him heavily. If they get inside the five, I mean, it's pretty much either. He's throwing a fade or they're running a sneak, which is kind of it. Baffles the mind a little bit with having such a good running back. So I'm thinking looking at it and then we'll talk about the offensive line here. It's kind of like our situation where that offensive line is more designed for middle of the field and not necessarily designed to push guys off the ball. That's so let's talk.

55:59 Let's talk about the offensive line. Obviously, when a guy rushes for 1000, they can't be absolutely Dreadful. I mean, you know, they are giving up about six tackles for losses of game, but I think the way you've been talking about Holmberg, that's probably more on him being able to get away from pressure and probably getting tackled Outside The Tackle Box, where it's not a sack, it's considered a tackle for loss, not terrible about getting upset. Acts bout mid-pack about in the 60s, has low 70. So you know he's not a Sitting Duck back there with them. So what's makes them, why is the combination of this offensive line and Mateo Durant?

56:44 Why are they so good running the ball? So between the 20s there, good running the ball because they have a lot of quick hitting inside please, that they are really good at blocking up and Zoning up. The, the Trap is one of them. That's, that's really their bread and butter. They also love the inside Zone, and but the combination would Te'o Durant in the, the strength of his offensive line really makes those two please go for them. It's definitely there. 100% their bread and butter and they're above average in past Pro. They do a good job. The scheme helps them because it is a lot of quick passes you from the 5 to 20 yard range. They're not going down the field a whole lot. So there's not a ton of you know, 45 second pass Pro going on.

57:31 It's more of the the 24 second pass Pro and they're holding up well there, but there are awful and goal to go situations, especially running the ball. They are not designed to just fire off and Move the other defensive line. They are very much they meet, they need more room to work with. So when you're down at the goal line and you're in your splits, tighten up and there's a lot of guys in not just inside the box, but within the first 2 yards of the ball, they don't do a very good job of getting to push. Their, I saw Holmberg have about two, it looked very similar to what we're dealing with having about two or three goes.

58:17 A quarterback sneak and getting nothing just fucking nothing. Well, our I mean, is it, I mean, he's a little bigger. I mean, is it just they can't fire or is it just there that finesse of a line that undersized when they get there? It's like you can't fire your not big enough to fire into most division one offensive line or defensive lives. It's a little of both, they're a little undersized but also just The the way their style, it's more of a moving guys out of gaps. Laterally than moving guys off the ball. Okay, I got you.

59:00 That makes sense. That makes sense. Was it a lot of fun watching this when I hear you talk about traps and inside Zone? I know that's highly love traps Man. Trap traps are my favorite. Fuck, I sound like Fred from Scooby-Doo. Jen's 609 yards over 14, her reception only three scores comes out of South Side, High School in Greenville, South Carolina. 511 190. He's a myth 3 star when he comes out. Ex-wife lot.

59:49 Where we see them lining up, Brian. He's your slot and he does a really good job on their kind of Quick short passes inside the slide, you're out your Slants, he's got great, quickness coming in and out of routes, but they also use him up the seam and that if they're going deep, it's usually him off of some sort of play-action attacking the middle of the field. Okay. All right, well, let me ask this, are they primarily in three-wide sets? Pretty much every down there at least going three wide occasionally, they'll run in an extra tight in HVAC but usually they're going three wide with the kind of HVAC. They use in either in line or in the backfield. All right, so what will be your expectation for us? How much should we run nickel, getting strong, Chapman and Waller out there to cover him and letting Connor Play on the inside.

1:01:00 I don't want to do it too much just because of how much they run between the tackles, okay. Does that worry then with Calhoun on to my I think? No not not too much just because I feel like they don't they're not successful hitting down field that much. Okay, so while we are suspect in that in that coverage responsibility I don't think it'll bite us for the home runs. I think you might keep us on the field a little longer than we like to here and there but it's not going to end up with six on the board. Very often guy that makes Sense. All right, Brian. Tell me if you've heard this before.

1:01:41 Six foot five, 220 lb tight end. Every week, a six foot five, 220 lb tight end. Or somewhere in there. That's Jake Bobo number 19 out of Belmont. Massachusetts mid 3 star when he came out 59 perception 635 yards right at 11 per reception, only one touchdown this year. What are you seeing out of Jake Bo Bo Ryan? Yeah, they really don't use them as a tight end. They use them as a wider. I mean he's essentially Bucky Hodges. Okay. Yeah. I mean, he's really a wide receiver. They use them outside.

1:02:27 Sometimes, they'll put him in the slot, sometimes they'll put him on line, but usually he's outside and he's there. Stick mover. He will occasionally get a deep Target here. They're usually some sort of like Corner route where they get him isolated. But he'll run the full route tree and they will Target him a lot in the Red Zone. Usually, with the fade. Makes sense being six foot five so he's not he's not the age back in line tied into they got another guy that does that. Yep the this he's primarily that Bucky Hodges 2016 type really big wide receiver. So let me ask this is that who Waller needs to be on? Yeah, I put water on him.

1:03:16 Almost exclusively if I could. All right and makes sense here. Well Brian we've talked enough about them, we've given everybody some insight to what they do some of their key players. But we've got to now talk about the Hokies because you know, in this Kappa version a lot of the stuff that we've already talked about. You're going to hear again, it needs to be emphasized but it's really funny because No. The symbolization of a Kappa is the palm of the hand, right? Yep. And you kind of think about it. This is a poem in the hand Victory. We're better than them.

1:04:00 Right. We're better than we have more Talent we're at home we even had an extra day to prepare but it worries Us in Braun. Let's let's start offensive ly. I know what you're going to say, pound the table say it. Continue the commitment to the running game, pound the football run. It run, even though they have some guys who care and help stop the run overall, they're not built that way and with Blackshear, and Malachi. Averaging five last week against a significantly better front.

1:04:42 Seven front six. Yep, don't go away from. Don't get fancy. Don't get cute. Don't get smart. If those guys each aren't close to 15 to 20 for both of them, it will be a disappointment. Yep. So I'm ready for that actually. So for the second one, I don't know if you've heard this one before. This is an oldie but a goodie get whoever is quarterback comfortable early and we did not do that against BC. We did didn't hardly throw a pass for most of the first half and by the time we started, To throw in the past, as we weren't completing them because we were taking shots, get these damn quarterbacks comfortable early.

1:05:26 Whether it's BB, whether it's knocks, whether it's Taj. And if BB is out, I better see Taj take some snaps. Well you know if for nothing else get ties in there to run the Run dip because Knox is not a threat. Knox is not a threat for right? If you, if you want to have any semblance of read option or RPO or any of that shit, you better get tossed out there. Yeah. Do we expect them to start us talking with a buddy today at work? No, I do not expect them to start, but he needs to wear it for. He can play in every game from here on out. If we make a bowl Italy every game, there needs to be packages for that kid. You need to get him on the field and see what he's got. And if he runs the ball and that's it, that's fine. At least you give more of Double threat to running the ball to your point about comfortable early. I'm not even going to talk to you. If the first three passes our past 15 yards because you're going to be in a grumpy mood, the rest of the afternoon, like, idiot, we have this opportunity and you do, we're gonna have to take a shot here, they're against the seam because they do play that press.

1:06:38 But You still can get these opportunities from guys, that aren't named, Trey, and Tay. You don't have to always look outside. You still have H backs, you still have tight ends. You still have slot receivers. There is such a thing as the middle of the field. I don't know if you've heard of it but we should actually attack that from time to time. We do an awful job of attacking the middle of feel especially in the intermediate area. That's where we need to focus. And I don't know if it's a not seeing the field issue by the quarterback, whether it's a, just not, not emphasizing it by our coordinator, I don't know, but it's something but. I mean, we're close to dead last in intermediate passes inside the hashes.

1:07:30 Well, we weren't great last year and or even the early part of this year with James and James is an absolute rather, the middle of people Yep. It's like there's this area where a lot of times it can become void, right? How many times just watching any level of football, high school college or Pro that the middle of the field? Gets voided now, and one of the best schematic offensive coordinators, know how to manipulate to get holes in the middle of the field wide open, and it's easy passes. It's easier passes because it's literally straight, but will digress on that. I hope be be there.

1:08:13 I think BB you play and I know he's, he took a shot to the ribs but if he can throw, he was thrown on the Cylon he was just in pain. Yeah, what I think will happen is I think he will get a cortisone shot. And for three quarters of the game, he won't feel it. And starting the fourth he will. And return of perk my sister, you know, maybe the other big thing. Brian and and I think this is an absolute must is because they're not a good team. We have to score early, it does not have to be often, but we've got to put I think at least 14 points up by halftime. Yep.

1:08:58 I'm with you, we've got to score against these guys because they will move the ball, which means, unless they're going for it on Fourth, like they did a handful of times against Pitt last week. They're going to have moments where they're going to at least get field goals on these drives. We got to, at least at least match that if not put, put it in the end zone ourselves and I'd love to trade touchdowns for field goals against Duke, because then then we can make some make some hey there. What worries me is if we get into field goal fight with them. Yep, that is the worst and far here.

1:09:38 All right Braun, let's flip over to defense. Let's talk about it. They are a good running team. We saw what happened last week now. Luckily that was more of a power scheme will bit more push around. This is more finesse what has to go on the defensive line and the linebacking corps. All the front six much better Gap. Integrity this week than against BC and it should be easier. Sledding this week, you're not playing as physical of offensive line. It's more finesse. Yeah, they run the traps good but you need to hold their Gap. Make sure that you're not. Making a good hole, a great hole and make sure that your linebackers are filling timely.

1:10:21 So you're not at the second level with Mateo Durant and going hand-in-hand with that man. You gotta tackle, you gotta tackle. Tackle tackle tackle because we have not done that. Well, the last few weeks either we have not done it well at all. I don't think we've actually had a really good tackling game since middle Tennessee. See. That sounds about right that sound about right? And when I say that, I don't mean. Has there been quarters? Where we have tackled great? Yes. Absolutely. There have been quarters where we tackle great in the one thing that you mentioned about Durant, that's a little bit more worrisome than the BC back. Is you mentioned that acceleration to the edge? You know, when we talk about the tackling, if we don't tackle him, it's not going to be what we talked about last week, the less than 20.

1:11:20 How many we kept them less than 20? I think you could break a big one. I really feel that because of the couple times of watch them, you talking about that acceleration? It's not going to be this always slow them down and then we got him. Six yards later, I know you're going to slowing down. You're going to get about 16 yards later. For 26 yards, later. So you know tackle, I don't know, I know it's getting later in the season but they've got to get that somewhat corrected in these next three games. Absolutely. Yeah. All right. Last big piece here Braun. They do have a tendency to turn the ball over. I think we need to lease be a plus 2. Yeah, I think we do a plus 2.

1:12:12 I think we win the game comfortably. If it said yeah 0, or they win it. Get your drinks out. It's really locks out. Get your Tylenol out. It's not going to be a fun game to watch as it gets later. Yeah. And just talking about the turnovers Gunners prone to a bad decision here. There there was a fumbled exchange at the 1-yard line against Pitt that pretty much took at least three points off the board for Duke. So and they had had a previous fumble on that same Drive. That they got on so they will put the ball in the turf.

1:12:53 They will throw it to you. We just got to capitalize on those. Make sure we get turnovers there and I think if we like you said, if we win the turnover battle especially when it by 2, I think that sets us up pretty good. All right. Brian prediction time, I lived last week you leave this week, sir. I think this is closer than we want it to be, but I think we pull it out. I've got the Hokies winning. 420. All right yeah definitely closer than what the experts think. I mean it was actually let me pull up one of the apps I have here this game. As of 11:30 Eastern Standard Time, on a Wednesday night is, we're laying 11 and a half. It had a Sonata that's asked on a mount for a team that just lost to Boston College and got handled and we don't know if their quarterback starting.

1:13:50 Exactly. So maybe they know he is starving. Um, The over unders 50. They're saying, we're winning this game like 3120 that if we go plus 2 in the turnover. Yeah. But if you're saying everything is going to be, even I'll still think we win this game. I think we pull one out for the seniors for the Hall of Fame, guys. I'm gonna go 2720 at, think we get one more score than what you think. I can kick some probably, some, we get a field goal early or Something and we always stay ahead of them. So we're both picking for the Hokies this week. We're not know dissenting opinions between first time, long time we've picked for the Hokies on the same week Richmond Richmond.

1:14:40 Yeah, I think so. Well, the last games they want to. So let's roll on Brian. Let's take a look at our Saturday, pick them's Brian. After the five and five week. 85 and one I'm 5941 and one if you would have made every bet you would be in the plus category for us. So, I want to listen to us. We're doing alright, we're not doing bad. I mean, we're better than a coin flip. So we're better than a call. All right, Brian. We're going to start today UNC pit.

1:15:21 I'll lead some time leading the thing and I'm gonna go with pit. I don't see six-and-a-half being enough for Carolina to cover. I mean, they gave up 55 to wake and I know wakes a good offense. So as pit I do think that was an emotional Victory or emotional game for Carolina and they needed a bunch of fluky stuff to win that game and to cover. But this is a Thursday night. So short week for both teams and it's at Pitt. There will not be much energy there that's why I'm going pit. I'm with you and it's got a lot to do. I'll be when you look at what happened last week with you and see they needed wakes running back to get injured and the offense to forget how to offense for most of the fourth quarter to pull that out. I don't see that happening again, spit. I think you're going to get a solid Kenny Pickett for most of the game.

1:16:24 What's the what's the rent? A banach Anna. You're going to get, I can't say his name. You get a whole lot of him, and I think they're going to be able to win by about. I'd say, it's gonna be about a nine or ten pointer. All right, let's go and put in that game. All right, Brian. Let's take a look at this one. Syracuse Louisville. This is at Louisville. Louisville home favorite laying 3.2 you taken. I'm taking huge to win outright. I think they're gonna be able to run the ball, all game against them. I think Schrader's going to make enough plays in the passing game for it to be an outright win. Yeah, I'm with you on that. I'll take using the point.

1:17:05 I do see them winning out right as well. You know, Louisville four and five had Clemson. Couldn't close the deal where Syracuse coming off a bye week, I'm on the verge of Bowl eligibility. On the burger, probably keeping Andy know his job and I think they get it done here with a very solid running game. Yeah, I think Sean Tucker is going to be satisfied with his performance. That that like, there's two, it's so great. It's almost like the your year end results for a company. Every day.

1:17:48 Here's my setup. So, you know, it's awesome to see that. It's it makes you laugh. If you don't follow her, haven't caught it, you know, definitely do that the other Peace, you know? Louisville's almost giving up 28 points a game. I think Syracuse will get that plus a little bit more. Hey, Brian. I have to lead on this one too. I have no clue what the betting public is thinking, BC, Georgia, Tech. Yes. This game is at Bobby, Dodd Stadium and something Georgia Tech is getting the full to home field advantage.

1:18:34 Jerk kovitch extra week back probably full week of practice. Getting the hand better solid running game. We know how bad Georgia Tech's running defense is. We saw that firsthand? I think BC not only wins out right. I think they make this thing like the 14, maybe Seventeen Point win. I don't think it's that much but I think it's a solid touchdown win for BC much like we described Heinz Field. Bobby Dodd is the opposite of electric. It is, it is not an atmosphere that gives really any home field advantage. But unlike Hines it also isn't dead to the point where the opposing team like a detriment G. Yeah, I'm just dead.

1:19:25 Team. Yes. You feel the energy coming off? Well it's a little bit of a more comfortable State. Like Heinz is such is so big that we thousand seat Stadium will like 9,000 people there. Yeah it just it feels weird. Yeah I think Boston College is able to run the ball. I think they're with another week. You get your Kovac playing a little bit more crisp in the passing game. You'll see is a flowers have A few big game gainers in the passing game and I think they take care of business. All right, we're 343 I have a feeling, we're going to be similar on this one to FSU, Miami, a rivalry of our youth.

1:20:09 That was unlike any other wide, right? One ride right to battles every year, fights every year. And I feel like this is might be the smelliest line of all. Miami is laying two and a half points and I know that, you know, this game is in Tallahassee. but, you know, people watching Florida State play in somebody. Well yeah they almost beat Clemson. Clemson is not the normal Clemson. What do you say on this? When you get to leave? I'm taking Miami. I think, I think it's just gonna be too much offense from Miami's in.

1:20:54 I think they do just enough on defense to to keep it. I think it's still probably a one score game, but it's not, it's not coming down to the wire at the two and a half. Yeah, I'm with you on that. I don't, I don't see it as a huge blowout, but I can't lay two and a half points. That that she right now. They're not playing good enough football to, you know, to be Close. Yep. All right, UVA, Notre, Dame. This is at Scott Stadium, just up the street here. It's going to be a prime-time game. 7:30, ABC, we get the ACC Network, they get ABC, Notre Dame Lane five and a half and I'm going to take UVA in this one.

1:21:38 I can't feel them winning out right. But I think their offense running Armstrong is playing actually. Take that back. Is he playing this week? Brian can you effort me real quick? Because now, I thought I already was playing, but now I'm double. Kicking myself. Let's see, status uncertain, mmm, but he hasn't been ruled out. So I mean that's Take back, good things about UVA. Take that back, take that back completely. Give me Notre Dame.

1:22:22 If there is, if there is a potential he's not playing. That means he's probably not practicing this week. If those ribs are still sore, Marcus stream is going to pop him a couple times and he will not be playing the rest of the game. Kyle Hamilton will fly in there. Yeah, I'm actually going to go UVA here. I thought I still think that Notre Dame wins out right? But Notre Dame plays a lot of close games against Good competition. I think it's going to stay a close game. It's probably gonna be a for three-point victory for Notre Dame. UVA keeps it close. Obviously, that changes if Brandon Armstrong is a full, no go.

1:23:04 But I think, even without the week of practice, I think they still are able to get things. Done enough on offense to keep it close. We'll see, My worry, is this, their defense is so bad and Notre Dame is a solid defense. I think it becomes one of those things Armstrong's not and if they get down early like 14-nothing 14-3, they're going to start forcing it even more than normal against a good back in and that's where things could get ugly. Although, I think, I think what Bronco will probably try to do, I think he'll probably try to crawl this game. I think if brings if he doesn't have Armstrong, he will grind it to a halt as much as possible. Yep, look for the football player, to take a lot of direct snaps God.

1:23:49 All right, Brian next one up NC State Wake. A ranked battle in the ACC weight coming off. Their first loss of the year is getting just two points at home versus the Wolfpack. What do you say on this is the matchup of the ACC, right? I mean, this is the best. This is the best matchup in conference that we've had all year it in terms of ranked opponents in terms of Overall record. And I'm going to take n c-- state. Because with running back out for Wake potentially, I haven't read any whether he's out for long-term or not, but he was carted off.

1:24:38 I don't think he's going to be good enough to go in this one. I think that's the difference offenses and quite clicking, like it needs to NC State takes care of business. Yep, I'm with you on that. I'm going to take NC State as well. A, this is going to be the best defense. We get seen all year with a steady offense, the running back Per week. Plus if we can remember go back to 2019, when they came into the lane with what, two losses to close losses, we handled them. The rest of the season they weren't right. It seems like there's one thing about a Clausen team that they get punched in the mouth. It usually takes them multiple weeks to find recover. So I'm going to take the two points with NC State because I see an outright win.

1:25:26 All right, bro, I got a really interesting for you when here and I'll life and time leading Marshall and UAB. Hmm, wonder why I want to talk about this game? I don't know, man. Man, I'm not sure if it has any tie-ins to Virginia Tech at all. I will you? No, no, no, nothing that I've heard of tie-in. Super jigna tech with Marshall or UAB. But just thought, if we talk about the Charles soft lead, Marshall Thundering Herd, it's six and three. You know, Charles Merrill is that Maryland, native turtles Huff. Maryland native.

1:26:08 Charles Warren. Raising the DMV. Play four years of Collegiate football down at Hampton and has been on a great journey since then coached at Maryland. With region for a year been 10 years between Nick, Saban, Joe, Moorhead, and James Franklin, at Penn State really great recruiter of Virginia. I mean, he was stealing so many kids from Penn State while he was there. You know, the other thing wrong was also an associate head coach. For Nick Saban says, a lot about the movie is Yeah. Yeah, that sounds like a very solid solid head. Coach that Marshall has, they're very solid and Coach, let's talk about the game, all the game.

1:26:55 Well, Marshalls laying five, this is a home game for them, you know? And don't get me wrong, you a be good in their own, right. They're both 6 and 3 and I'm just going to just throw this one out there. I'm going to give it to Huff, who after a three-game losing streak has, right at his ship and has his guys playing great winning three in a row. So I'm going to take Charles huff and the Marshall Thundering, Herd lady. I'm right there with you. It's down, yep, I'm right there with you. I think the huh, fled Thundering Herd. Take care of business.

1:27:36 Hey, keep it moving, keep it rolling. Exactly. All right, got talk about hidden hooker, right? We got to, he's had a great year, he's a great year, he's on, he's on a few watch list for the or few list for the end of the year. He's getting more talked about potentially getting drafted. He's a little baby. A baby. A Brian semi-finalists lister's. Yeah something like that and he's like he went he went from unranked to light number six on some of The big boards for the NFL but he has a absolute monstrous task at hand down in Athens. They are getting 20 and a half points, but it's been kind of tumultuous this week down in Georgia.

1:28:23 One of their linebackers getting arrested with a felony, rape charge, you know, something to 3:30 on, CBS, the line just went down to 20 Got 20 and a half. Georgia laying the points. What do you say to this one? Brian. I'm going to take Tennessee here. I think they keep it close enough. I haven't really seen a game that hendon's played in where anyone really ran away. I know. Ugh is a different Beast than everybody really on anyone's schedule yet, but I think just the combination of factors for Georgia and Hendon playing at a really high level.

1:29:07 I think they do enough to to keep it closed. It's still probably 17 points but I think they, they keep it that close. So I'll take Tennessee here, that's the exact number I had in my head. I think Georgia wins this game 31:17. I think. Tendon keeps them in. I think he throws a couple good touchdown passes to keep them always Within Reach. I think Georgia constricts them later in the game and puts them out as what they can do. Because of the type of Defense, there are even losing a stud linebacker like they have this week.

1:29:47 All right, Brian, will check this one real quick. Michigan Penn State little while ago, this line was one For Penn State. And actually it has flipped while I don't know why its flipped, but it is flipped Michigan Lane, one and a half. Now, let's make those updates to our sheets here. Yep. I gotta make an update. Yeah, somebody would say, can't you ever did them do this after the show? No, because when I get after the show, I'm going to bed. But, Michigan laying one and a half run. And I'll lay it on, I think missions a better team this year. They've had one bad quarter football all year and it costs them that game in East Lansing one of their two rivalry games of the year.

1:30:37 So I mean it was a big game for them. It was a big thing. Yep, and I'm actually right there with you, I'm going to take Michigan here. I think that that I was going to have them as the outright winner when the line was one for Penn State. So I definitely have them today in the The W here. So I'll lay the one and a half. Yeah, I'm trying to figure out what's flipped on that game because I looked at that this afternoon and it was Penn State by one. So a two and a half Point Flip, not a three, and no, two and a half Point Flip. So interesting, I'll be doing some reading tomorrow or some listening tomorrow morning.

1:31:19 All right, Brian? Finally game of the week. Probably one of the biggest games of the week especially for Oklahoma talked about last few, the nice. Next few weeks are going to be really big for them. They get the 13th ranked Baylor Bears. This is going to be in Waco. Oklahoma is the five and a half Point favorite? What do you say on this one? I'm going to go Oklahoma here. I think this is kind of a one of the wins that starts getting them back in the conversation to jump into that that playoff picture. I think they get a fairly signature win.

1:32:00 I don't think it's a blow out of Baylor but I think it's a solid 10 point win. All right, I'm going to take bail on this game, I think this game is going to be closer than what people think, Oklahoma still has offensive problems. I think a random will scheme enough on defense to keep it closed. So I think Oklahoma wins field goal 34 points, but I think it's going to be a war on Saturday High Noon, High Noon, High Noon, first time in weeks that I will get to sit down and have a full day of Collegiate football. So, Bryan we have agreed on all the two games this week?

1:32:42 Yeah, Brian is not clearly. There's there's some weeks. I will tell you when you when we get behind we were like I'm going to I'm going to go opposite just because I'm trying to play catch-up, this is not one of those weeks. Huh. Not just the way the lines are Fallen. It just feels like it's not a week to roll the dice just to do it trying to strategically place. My dice rolls here. Ironically I'm going with with UVA on one of those so y'all can hate me if you want to. But If Brandon Armstrong is in that game I think they keep it close. So we'll see. Yeah, we'll see on, but it's laid out there now like again, if Armstrong was playing, I'd take UVA with the points, but I'm gonna, I'm Gonna Roll the Dice and see it's the opposite way.

1:33:32 Anything breaking in the last hour, 90 minutes here, wearing or hour and 30 minutes, he had nothing jumped off that. I see man, I think we're good to go. All right, well that'll wrap up this episode of The Boundary Corner podcast. I'm Curtis Wilson. And I'm Brian Sigler, visit our website at boundary corner. Be t.com to listen to all of our episodes while you are there. Don't forget to follow us on Twitter. Facebook, Instagram, subscribe to our YouTube account and your favorite podcast Source, including Spotify, Amazon, and apple podcast, we always let our buddy Jason long place. In play us out, catch him on Spotify and on Apple music. We thank you for listening. Please rate review.

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