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And welcome back to the

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Boundary Corner podcast,

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along with my partners,

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Brian Seigla and Jonathan Talley.

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I am Curtis Wilson,

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and this episode is brought

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to you by Dr. Jeremy Counts

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down at the Main Street

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Pharmacy in Blacksburg,

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your friendly neighborhood pharmacy,

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301 South Main Street, Blacksburg,

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Virginia.

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Boys, it's tough for me to say,

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because we've been working

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on this one for a while.

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to have this episode.

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Yeah, for a bit, man,

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for at least since last spring.

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In some ways, last spring.

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In some ways, last spring.

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But I don't want to waste

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any time because we got a

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lot of questions to ask him.

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He is a busy young man,

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an all-academic young man.

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Shout out, Kyron, making that list, man.

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But bring him on, I guess, tonight.

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Your quarterback one, Virginia Tech Hokies,

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Kyron Drones.

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Kyron, how are you this evening?

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I'm good.

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How about you?

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Doing good, man.

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Doing good.

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There it is.

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You funny, Tally.

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Tally said it.

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Tally said it.

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He did say it, man.

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He didn't even lie.

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You got to be a bad man to

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even get number one.

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Y'all understand what kind

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of bullseye it puts on you

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when you get that number one?

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It ain't talking about what

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you wear in the depth chart.

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When you wear that number one, hey,

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you the dude.

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You the man.

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I'm just saying.

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Go ahead, Curtis.

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Go ahead, Curtis.

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Well, Kyron, you are the man right now.

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And man,

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we've got a lot of stuff we want to ask.

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And again,

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we appreciate you taking your time.

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I'm going to throw some up

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here real quick.

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That's right.

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QB1 in the house with us.

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And let's just start straight out.

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How are winter workouts

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going for you so far?

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And we saw yesterday y'all

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started Hunger Games.

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How's that going for you as well?

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I wouldn't work out has been

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fine before hunger just started.

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It was just lifting and running,

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so that's been like.

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Just the normal lifting and

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running their hunger just

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started Tuesdays every

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Tuesday and Thursday,

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so we back at it tomorrow.

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But the first day it was.

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It was good.

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It wasn't up to coach price standards,

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but.

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It was good.

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It's just a bunch of competition,

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one-on-ones.

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You're trying to get a win

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every time you go.

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They tally up the wins,

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so you get the bragging

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rights every time when you see that.

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So it was just a good day,

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good morning of competition.

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Having been a coach at one point,

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there's no way a coach is

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going to let day one be a good day.

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He's going to have to give

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you something to grow on.

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Yeah, he wasn't real happy on day one,

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so he had to make day two better.

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That's awesome.

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That's awesome.

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Yeah, I mean, go ahead, Tyler.

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How cold do we get in that Beamer barn?

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Hey, it's different.

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We're still waiting on the heater.

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Hopefully we get that by spring, boss,

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so we ain't got to deal with that.

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But it's way colder in the

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indoor than it is outside,

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I can tell you.

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Yeah, I heard.

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Now, wait a minute.

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The coaches aren't sneaking on y'all.

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The heaters aren't ready to go.

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They just ain't cranking

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them up to give y'all a

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little heart attack.

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time in there, are they?

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I don't think anybody would

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just be cold in there.

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I like hearing that.

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Yeah, you gotta have something to fight,

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right?

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They gotta make it cold so

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you got something to fight.

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All right.

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Let's let's flip it to some

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football real quick.

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You know, season started last year.

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You started in the fall.

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You were number two on the depth chart,

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but you kept working,

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kept your confidence up,

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got an opportunity.

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What did you do personally

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to kind of keep that

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confidence high during the

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season when you weren't

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named the starter to start 2023?

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I just believed in myself,

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basically all I can do.

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Sometimes I went to one of

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our therapists to get

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myself going through just the fall camp,

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but that was before the

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decision happened.

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And I just believed in myself,

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knowing that all I got to

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do is work hard and my time

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is going to come.

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And I just believed in God's

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journey for me.

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And I knew my time was going

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to come at some point in the season.

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I didn't know when it was going to come,

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but I know when my number was called,

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I wasn't going to look back.

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And that's what happened.

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Yeah,

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just know that everybody on this

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podcast had you at QB1

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coming out of spring and

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stayed that path the whole way, man.

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So I'm glad you stuck with it.

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And when you got your chance to shine,

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you did big things.

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I appreciate y'all.

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Now, another thing I'll say real quick.

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Go ahead.

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We were all three in the

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house when you did get that

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opportunity at the end of the Purdue game,

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man.

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And the way you zipped the ball and, Tally,

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go ahead.

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I know you want to talk about that run.

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Yeah, no, man.

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I mean, shoot, he did it.

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He know what it is.

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I mean, we sitting in there.

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We done went through a monsoon.

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You know,

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we done been fighting the

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elements as well as y'all.

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I done snuck down to the sideline.

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I think I could have reached

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out and touched y'all.

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I'm like, you know,

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I was up at the top when it started.

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So when we get in there, I'm like, hey,

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they got to give my boy a chance.

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Just give him a chance.

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Just give him an opportunity.

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And then I have been hearing all of the,

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you know, that's another time.

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He ain't ready.

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He can't throw this and that.

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You get in,

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you complete the pass to the

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tight end across the middle.

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Oh, he can throw a little bit.

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Then you get the run where

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you break free again.

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Offense had been moving.

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You break free, hit the sidelines.

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You said, no,

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I don't want to go out of bounds.

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We got a cornerback.

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Let me go ahead and see.

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Let me go ahead and see how tough he is.

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How did that make you feel?

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It was a good feeling,

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but I was definitely trying

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to get out of bounds.

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He said he was in the way.

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I was sprinting straight

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towards out of bounds, though.

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He just got me last minute,

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so I had to do something.

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When I run,

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I don't want to ever get

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delivered to hit.

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So if I know I'm going to get hit,

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I'm going to deliver it first.

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Yeah, yeah, I understand.

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What we loved about that as fans, man,

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and watching you and being

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in the stadium and even feeling it,

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it wasn't just that you

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delivered the hit.

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It was the mentality that

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we've been missing on this

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team for a while.

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We've been the nail for a long time.

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I'm not going to say a long time,

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but it's been some years

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before we had that attitude

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of we can go out and we can

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deliver those hits.

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And, you know,

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it wasn't just what you did

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physically when you,

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you know what I'm saying,

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you came with the impact.

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It was,

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I think it was Tucker Holloway on

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the sideline with you.

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Like you got up and you kind

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of start going about your

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business and you could see

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him gain some confidence as well.

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So, you know, just that mentality, man,

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was cool to watch play out.

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But, I mean,

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it kind of take us to our next question.

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watching you do stuff like that.

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And, you know,

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even in the spring game when

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we were in the house,

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they doing this two hand touch thing,

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you know, you know,

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you get somebody to break

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free and come and tap you on the back.

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And I'm like,

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that ain't going to take him down.

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So I guess the question would be like,

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how many times was you

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begging them to take that

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non-contact off so they can

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really see what you can do in practice?

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Oh, you guys,

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Coach Pryor asks me all the time.

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The defense asks me,

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they don't want me live

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because I be talking trash

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knowing like that's not

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going to be a tackle and

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they swear it is.

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But I hate the two hand

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touch because sometimes

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Pryor caught a whistle too

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fast just because he get too close to me.

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But yeah, I don't like it at all.

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Sometimes I wish I was just

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live like before I was QB1.

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Right now, like everybody know what it is.

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So yeah.

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If you think you made that tackle,

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then you made that tackle.

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Protect that man now.

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We want two jerseys now.

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We needed you out of it at first,

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but you want two of them now.

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Everybody knows what it is now.

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It doesn't matter anymore.

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I just love the mentality as

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soon as they touch you.

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I'm sure it's immediately.

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You know that ain't a tackle.

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You know that's not a tackle.

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You know I'm not down right here.

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Come on now.

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You ever just take the ball

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and move it up like eight

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yards and be like, Coach,

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he might have brought me down here.

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He ain't going to bring me back back here.

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No, I be times where I argue with pride.

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But most of the time he – I

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argue with pride with Coach Martin,

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but most of the time they agree with me.

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Like sometimes they'll agree

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like he know that's not a tackle.

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You're like, we know.

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It is what it is.

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It is.

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It is.

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All right, let's do this.

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Man, what a finish to the season.

0:10:19.192 --> 0:10:21.214
Y'all blow the doors off to Cavaliers.

0:10:21.335 --> 0:10:22.395
Get to Commonwealth Cup.

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Keep it home.

0:10:24.018 --> 0:10:25.639
Go up to Annapolis where I

0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:27.542
attended to the Military Bowl.

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Great performance there in a

0:10:29.163 --> 0:10:31.225
monsoon up there.

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But then between that game

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and the bowl game,

0:10:37.298 --> 0:10:39.100
we start seeing the Twitter messages,

0:10:39.220 --> 0:10:41.282
guys coming back, you know,

0:10:41.783 --> 0:10:43.485
Jennings coming back, you know,

0:10:43.524 --> 0:10:44.785
your running back's coming back,

0:10:45.407 --> 0:10:47.028
more wide receivers coming back.

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And, you know,

0:10:49.812 --> 0:10:51.634
we start seeing this and it's like,

0:10:53.216 --> 0:10:55.378
they're taking the step, guys are staying,

0:10:55.437 --> 0:10:56.357
guys aren't leaving.

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And what does that say not

0:10:58.379 --> 0:10:59.620
only about those players,

0:10:59.700 --> 0:11:01.081
but the coach and staff?

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And then we want to know,

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how much of a role did you

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have in that process?

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How many conversations with

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guys like Ali Jennings,

0:11:11.004 --> 0:11:12.466
guys like Jay Lane and saying,

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look what we did starting

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here to the end of the season?

0:11:21.139 --> 0:11:22.981
For them guys to come back, at first,

0:11:23.001 --> 0:11:23.982
to start off with the guys,

0:11:24.003 --> 0:11:24.823
they just know it's like a

0:11:24.884 --> 0:11:27.206
brotherhood coming back,

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and they know we have a

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chance to be special.

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Like you said, our whole offense came back,

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so we have a chance to be

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special to coaches.

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That means just

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They really love the coaches.

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I love the coaches.

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Everybody loves Coach Pryor.

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He's like the coolest coach you can meet.

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But that just says a lot

0:11:44.279 --> 0:11:46.221
about him and the mentality

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that he brings to the team

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and what he's trying to build.

0:11:49.481 --> 0:11:52.283
But my impact with Ali and

0:11:52.323 --> 0:11:53.124
the rest of the guys,

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I'm real close with the

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people I transfer with just

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because we've got a group chat and all.

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But Ali,

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I'm the closest with him because

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that's basically my roommate.

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We live by ourselves,

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but we live right next door

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to each other.

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Ali just telling him to come back,

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knowing like he got hurt the second game.

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And I know he came to

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Virginia Tech for a reason.

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He couldn't wait to the league,

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but he wanted to prove that

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he could do it on a big stage.

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And then Jay Lane, Quan,

0:12:19.663 --> 0:12:21.624
they show this them coming

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back just to be able to do

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the same thing and do it again.

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And then like the playoff

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getting to 12 teams,

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you make that playoff.

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The more you win,

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the more coaches don't look at you.

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coaches look at you as a

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better opportunity for you

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to get to the league,

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get to where you want to be.

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So we get that going.

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We do what we know we're capable of,

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get to win a game,

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get to be in that offense

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that we want to be in,

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and it's just better looks for everybody.

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I love hearing that.

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That's awesome.

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That's awesome to hear.

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Love hearing you kind of

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stepping up with a

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leadership role from that

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perspective and getting

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guys on board and saying, all right,

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we got some unfinished business,

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and the better we come back

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and do it next year,

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the more that kind of

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raises everybody's ship for the future,

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right?

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Yeah,

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it's basically a win-win situation

0:13:08.196 --> 0:13:08.836
for everybody.

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Virginia Tech winning games, you get seen,

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you get to the goal you

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want to be in the league,

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and that's where everybody

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want to go in college football, so...

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It's a win-win situation.

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Yep.

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All right.

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Poor Tally.

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Hold on, Tally.

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Go ahead.

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Before Tally asks his question,

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we just got to let you know,

0:13:26.142 --> 0:13:28.423
we see him out there hollering at you.

0:13:28.442 --> 0:13:30.303
I think that's your mom.

0:13:30.344 --> 0:13:31.764
I know that's your dad right there.

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They are watching you live tonight.

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Got to do that.

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Your dad's been following us for a while,

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man, so we appreciate that.

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Tally, the floor is yours, my friend.

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Kevin, my guy, Ms.

0:13:43.660 --> 0:13:44.643
Drones, how y'all doing?

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Well, yeah, man,

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so I know they're getting a

0:13:47.046 --> 0:13:47.647
little technical,

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asking you some questions

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about the team and stuff, and I love that,

0:13:51.131 --> 0:13:51.312
man.

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I love the mentality that

0:13:52.875 --> 0:13:54.417
you have being a leader,

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but I got to ask the fun questions.

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I think I was the first person.

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I don't like patting myself

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on the back too much,

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but whenever we was

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watching the game and after the game,

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I'm like, that's the play of the season.

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When I see you,

0:14:08.196 --> 0:14:09.277
you make the long touchdown

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pass against Pitt,

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and it may be like the

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first one of the game,

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and you running down the

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field the whole way.

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I'm talking about all three levels,

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linemen, linebackers, DBs,

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And you saying something,

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you ain't got to tell me

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exactly what you're saying.

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But I'm just asking kind of

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what you'll go to when

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something like that

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happened and we doing a

0:14:32.557 --> 0:14:33.298
little trash talking,

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like what we need to say.

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Because I'm trying to, you know,

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I'm finna go back and play

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a little bit of touch football.

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So I want to know what I

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need to say on this video.

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I ain't gonna lie, that's always been me,

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like, in the game, just, I've always,

0:14:45.466 --> 0:14:46.426
the game just always

0:14:46.466 --> 0:14:47.466
bringing talking out of me.

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I don't really,

0:14:48.408 --> 0:14:49.548
don't be knowing what I be saying,

0:14:49.587 --> 0:14:51.028
but I know what I said to

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the D lineman that time,

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just because something

0:14:54.490 --> 0:14:55.811
happened before the game where, like,

0:14:56.272 --> 0:14:57.572
he followed me on Instagram

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before the game,

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And basically just liked some pictures,

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and I just told him,

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don't ever do that again.

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Just like,

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I don't know what you're doing

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it for because I'm not scared.

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Like, yeah,

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it might be whatever start it was,

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but you ain't going to

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scare me just by following me.

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Right.

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Just being in the game, like,

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people say I might be quiet, which I am,

0:15:16.684 --> 0:15:17.985
kind of quiet off the field.

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But during the game,

0:15:20.727 --> 0:15:21.947
I know I've been talking

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the most out of everybody

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on any team I've been on.

0:15:25.510 --> 0:15:27.032
That's crazy.

0:15:27.532 --> 0:15:28.753
That's crazy, but I like it.

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So this ain't even on script.

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I'm gonna ask you something too,

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because see, I'm an old guy now.

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So I'm 38.

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So when I was playing

0:15:37.023 --> 0:15:42.203
football back in the early 2000s and 2003,

0:15:42.203 --> 0:15:44.124
like I listened to a lot of Texas music,

0:15:44.163 --> 0:15:47.264
but it was like screw music, Slim Thug,

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you know, Mike Jones, Swisher House,

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Tom Tom, Fat Bastard, all of them.

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What kind of music,

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like if I want to hear some

0:15:55.187 --> 0:15:56.386
good Texas music right now,

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who I need to listen to?

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Right now?

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Right now,

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I'd probably say this dude

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called Big X The Plug.

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He out of Dallas.

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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I know who Big X The Plug is.

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Now, ain't that old Kyra, man.

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I mean, I got it.

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I don't really listen to

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that many Texas people.

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It's just Big X The Plug,

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he definitely one of them.

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But growing up, all the screw,

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that's all my dad listened to growing up.

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So that's his go-to.

0:16:23.644 --> 0:16:26.206
But Big X The Plug right now, for sure.

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That's what's up.

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That's what's up.

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So we're going to pivot it

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back to football here a little bit.

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You know,

0:16:36.158 --> 0:16:37.217
we've already mentioned we talked

0:16:37.238 --> 0:16:38.677
to your pops over the holidays,

0:16:39.759 --> 0:16:40.219
talked about the

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relationship forwards with Coach Bowen,

0:16:43.179 --> 0:16:43.379
you know,

0:16:43.399 --> 0:16:44.640
right when the transfer portal

0:16:44.701 --> 0:16:45.541
opened last year.

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How did that relationship

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play into your role

0:16:49.022 --> 0:16:50.202
committing to Virginia Tech?

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And how have you kind of

0:16:52.163 --> 0:16:53.323
taken over as a leader

0:16:53.384 --> 0:16:54.464
based on that offense and

0:16:54.484 --> 0:16:55.644
your relationship with Bowen?

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Uh,

0:16:57.854 --> 0:17:00.115
the relationship started like basically

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when he hit me up in the portal and then,

0:17:02.096 --> 0:17:03.876
uh, first day the portal opened,

0:17:03.917 --> 0:17:05.617
he flew to Waco, had lunch with me.

0:17:06.398 --> 0:17:09.240
And then, uh, I was just like,

0:17:09.759 --> 0:17:10.740
it was a good moment for

0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:11.701
like a coach to do that.

0:17:11.741 --> 0:17:13.241
Like the first day portal

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and that was his main priority.

0:17:14.962 --> 0:17:15.824
Like he wanted to see me.

0:17:16.344 --> 0:17:17.684
And then ever since I had lunch with him,

0:17:17.704 --> 0:17:19.065
it was just like an instant connection.

0:17:19.464 --> 0:17:20.846
He asked all the right questions.

0:17:21.266 --> 0:17:22.165
I asked him all the right

0:17:22.205 --> 0:17:23.626
questions and he gave me

0:17:23.646 --> 0:17:24.586
straight up answers.

0:17:24.747 --> 0:17:25.987
That's all I want from a coach,

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just being my second time

0:17:27.647 --> 0:17:28.827
doing the recruiting process.

0:17:28.847 --> 0:17:29.949
Like I already know, like,

0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:32.601
what coaches be saying just

0:17:32.641 --> 0:17:33.261
to get you there.

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So I didn't want to hear that.

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And then just when he told

0:17:37.484 --> 0:17:39.445
me what he wanted me to do in his offense,

0:17:39.486 --> 0:17:42.347
like his vision for me, it just grew me,

0:17:42.429 --> 0:17:44.009
like it grew on me,

0:17:44.029 --> 0:17:45.310
like where I wanted to come

0:17:45.330 --> 0:17:46.191
visit Virginia Tech.

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And then on the visit,

0:17:47.092 --> 0:17:48.573
like I knew that solidified,

0:17:48.613 --> 0:17:50.334
especially when they played

0:17:50.394 --> 0:17:51.434
inner Sandman and they

0:17:51.454 --> 0:17:52.135
showed me the video.

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Cause I ain't never seen

0:17:53.836 --> 0:17:55.196
nothing like that coming from Baylor.

0:17:55.237 --> 0:17:57.637
Like the atmosphere don't get like that.

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And I just love playing there.

0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:00.901
And then my leadership role,

0:18:01.681 --> 0:18:02.842
I just knew I had to grow.

0:18:02.981 --> 0:18:05.263
I knew I was a good like leader,

0:18:05.584 --> 0:18:06.765
like lead by example.

0:18:06.785 --> 0:18:08.686
I knew I had to grow vocally.

0:18:08.807 --> 0:18:10.028
So it's just been gradually

0:18:10.087 --> 0:18:12.388
growing ever since then,

0:18:12.429 --> 0:18:13.950
especially when I first got

0:18:13.970 --> 0:18:15.351
my first start in it every week,

0:18:15.451 --> 0:18:17.373
my leadership, it grew.

0:18:17.512 --> 0:18:18.534
And then now it's just,

0:18:19.153 --> 0:18:20.234
it's at its peak right now,

0:18:20.295 --> 0:18:21.236
but I still got a ways to go.

0:18:21.920 --> 0:18:22.160
All right.

0:18:22.579 --> 0:18:23.640
I'm going to ask – I'm going

0:18:23.660 --> 0:18:24.201
to pivot a little bit.

0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:26.040
I'm going to ask a fun question, Tally.

0:18:26.661 --> 0:18:26.980
All right.

0:18:27.320 --> 0:18:28.021
Let's go back.

0:18:28.321 --> 0:18:29.021
Let's go back.

0:18:29.301 --> 0:18:31.962
Game one, O.D., you've seen the entrance.

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You heard them play it the

0:18:33.962 --> 0:18:36.183
first time walking from Merriman.

0:18:37.023 --> 0:18:38.683
As you're walking behind the

0:18:38.743 --> 0:18:40.585
north end zone around through the tunnel,

0:18:41.345 --> 0:18:42.464
what's that feeling like?

0:18:42.505 --> 0:18:43.925
Because when y'all are walking back there,

0:18:43.965 --> 0:18:45.105
the chant's back and forth.

0:18:45.915 --> 0:18:46.997
the place is starting to rock.

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What's that feeling like?

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And then maybe go to the pit

0:18:49.881 --> 0:18:51.163
game because when you did

0:18:51.222 --> 0:18:53.046
first start and you were at QB one,

0:18:53.066 --> 0:18:53.605
stepping out,

0:18:53.767 --> 0:18:55.249
what's that feeling like in that tunnel?

0:18:56.486 --> 0:18:58.627
Uh, yeah, the ODU game, it was cool,

0:18:58.928 --> 0:18:59.848
but it's like a different

0:18:59.888 --> 0:19:00.769
feeling when you know, like,

0:19:00.809 --> 0:19:01.871
you coming out there to start.

0:19:02.351 --> 0:19:04.854
So, like, I know warming up in the game,

0:19:05.314 --> 0:19:07.836
the Pitt game, I know warming up, like,

0:19:07.955 --> 0:19:08.836
I was just waiting to see

0:19:08.856 --> 0:19:10.538
that Jumbotron where they announced, like,

0:19:10.578 --> 0:19:13.141
who QB1 is, and then my face pop up.

0:19:13.842 --> 0:19:15.803
And then I smiled when that happened,

0:19:15.863 --> 0:19:17.585
and then going back out the tunnel,

0:19:18.065 --> 0:19:19.185
hearing that inner Sam, man,

0:19:19.226 --> 0:19:20.326
when you know you the starter,

0:19:20.827 --> 0:19:21.708
it's a different feeling.

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Like...

0:19:23.990 --> 0:19:26.030
I would say it's loud,

0:19:26.192 --> 0:19:28.353
but I kind of zone everything out.

0:19:28.932 --> 0:19:31.314
I run out, just look at all the stands.

0:19:31.894 --> 0:19:33.115
Every game is sold out,

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and you can tell there's no

0:19:34.736 --> 0:19:35.596
seat empty in there.

0:19:35.636 --> 0:19:36.958
But it's a crazy feeling.

0:19:36.998 --> 0:19:37.897
It's a great atmosphere,

0:19:37.917 --> 0:19:39.598
and I enjoy the fans,

0:19:39.638 --> 0:19:41.220
and I'm glad they show out every weekend.

0:19:41.960 --> 0:19:42.901
Let me ask this.

0:19:42.921 --> 0:19:44.122
Since we're doing fun questions today,

0:19:44.142 --> 0:19:44.981
I'm going to get one in here.

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You mentioned the atmosphere at Baylor.

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What's more crazy?

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a home playoff game at

0:19:52.686 --> 0:19:54.667
Shadow Creek or a home game at Baylor?

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Because I know how crazy

0:19:57.128 --> 0:19:57.949
they get about high school

0:19:57.969 --> 0:19:58.970
football down there in Texas.

0:20:00.809 --> 0:20:02.250
Playoff game at Shadow Creek,

0:20:02.351 --> 0:20:04.132
it was crazy.

0:20:04.511 --> 0:20:05.352
Yeah, I can imagine.

0:20:05.872 --> 0:20:06.492
It was different,

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especially like we went to

0:20:08.653 --> 0:20:09.993
state and everybody

0:20:10.013 --> 0:20:11.115
traveled to the state game.

0:20:11.474 --> 0:20:12.714
It was basically a home game.

0:20:12.835 --> 0:20:15.516
So it's special.

0:20:15.536 --> 0:20:16.876
Texas high school football is special.

0:20:18.294 --> 0:20:20.215
Yeah, I know.

0:20:20.256 --> 0:20:23.420
We done watched Friday Night Lights.

0:20:23.480 --> 0:20:25.782
Yeah, them folks crazy down there.

0:20:26.763 --> 0:20:27.565
If you're a little bit older,

0:20:27.585 --> 0:20:28.886
you watch Varsity Blues, too.

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That's our realm.

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And I will throw this in for the record,

0:20:34.032 --> 0:20:34.233
too.

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Kyron, you ain't got to say much.

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I'll say it for you.

0:20:37.480 --> 0:20:38.461
Everybody was watching that

0:20:38.501 --> 0:20:41.202
damn camera when they, because we, hey,

0:20:41.343 --> 0:20:42.723
these Hokie fans was on the edge.

0:20:43.243 --> 0:20:45.625
And when they was like, QB1, Kyron Drones,

0:20:45.865 --> 0:20:47.227
somebody had took a video of it,

0:20:47.686 --> 0:20:49.048
and that place went crazy.

0:20:49.988 --> 0:20:50.969
I'm talking crazy.

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Hey, no disrespect to nobody else,

0:20:53.569 --> 0:20:54.671
but motherfuckers was

0:20:54.691 --> 0:20:56.071
sitting on the edge of their seats like,

0:20:57.031 --> 0:20:57.772
what they finna say?

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You know what I'm saying?

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We need to know what they finna say.

0:21:00.894 --> 0:21:01.555
When they heard that,

0:21:01.815 --> 0:21:03.556
when they heard Kyron Drones, hey,

0:21:04.056 --> 0:21:04.916
we was ready to rock, man.

0:21:05.830 --> 0:21:06.371
I was at home.

0:21:06.391 --> 0:21:07.211
I already knew what it was.

0:21:07.290 --> 0:21:07.811
I felt good.

0:21:08.311 --> 0:21:10.832
Yeah, I seen the video.

0:21:10.852 --> 0:21:12.772
My teammates be getting on me,

0:21:12.792 --> 0:21:16.453
telling me when my video, my name pop up,

0:21:16.513 --> 0:21:17.993
my chance almost be as loud

0:21:18.013 --> 0:21:19.035
as Coach Prime.

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That's good.

0:21:20.694 --> 0:21:21.234
You deserve it.

0:21:21.275 --> 0:21:21.915
You work for it.

0:21:22.236 --> 0:21:23.715
I appreciate the fans for

0:21:24.036 --> 0:21:24.955
just being there and

0:21:25.477 --> 0:21:26.576
congratulating me for that.

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Yeah,

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we appreciate you giving us the

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feeling that we get.

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Like we're back when, you know,

0:21:34.845 --> 0:21:38.337
these guys in here were, you know, 17, 18,

0:21:38.337 --> 0:21:38.508
19, 20.

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The feeling of those teams

0:21:40.169 --> 0:21:41.069
that we had back then,

0:21:41.109 --> 0:21:42.111
like watching you out there,

0:21:42.891 --> 0:21:44.112
it's that very same feeling.

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So we appreciate that about you.

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Yeah, I'll just keep it going.

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You took us back, man.

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You really did.

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What y'all did the back half

0:21:50.797 --> 0:21:52.538
of the season took these guys back.

0:21:52.618 --> 0:21:54.319
I'm 40, Brian's 39, Tally's 38.

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So you do the math.

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Vic, Tyrod, Brian Randall.

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I mean,

0:22:00.931 --> 0:22:02.172
I'm sure you see those names all

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the time in the center.

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You took us back last year.

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And, I mean, you know,

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we went to games like when

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we were younger.

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I mean, we were wild.

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We were crazy.

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We did stupid stuff.

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I mean, let's, you know.

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There's things that we've done,

0:22:16.416 --> 0:22:17.577
but when you have that

0:22:17.678 --> 0:22:18.979
feeling and the brain comes back,

0:22:19.019 --> 0:22:20.559
it's like, this is the way it was.

0:22:21.079 --> 0:22:22.181
This is the way it was.

0:22:22.201 --> 0:22:23.582
This is the way it should be.

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And to see you guys,

0:22:25.542 --> 0:22:27.525
you leading the way with that crew there,

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it's great.

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Brian, Shelton is our fourth host.

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He is unfortunately on a trip right now,

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and he cannot join us.

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But he got with Brian yesterday,

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and he's got a little

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question about the offense

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he wants to ask you about.

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So let's bring that up for

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Kyron so Shelton can get

0:22:43.336 --> 0:22:44.016
his question answered.

0:22:45.720 --> 0:22:46.220
So Kyron,

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obviously the RPO is a huge

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element of Tyler Bowen's offense.

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I wanted to ask,

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how do you feel you

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progress in terms of being

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able to make those reads on

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the read option, the RPO,

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just making those pre and

0:22:58.925 --> 0:23:00.106
post snap reads to sort of

0:23:00.166 --> 0:23:00.826
execute the offense?

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How much do you feel like

0:23:01.446 --> 0:23:02.106
you progress throughout the

0:23:02.126 --> 0:23:03.048
course of the season with those?

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I feel like RPOs really came

0:23:07.650 --> 0:23:08.890
easy to me just because

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that's kind of like the

0:23:10.351 --> 0:23:11.692
same offense I ran in high school.

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RPOs has been nothing.

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It's just knowing who to read,

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and you can't be wrong.

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You've got to always be right.

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If the person you read and

0:23:22.919 --> 0:23:24.359
take the run away, you've got to pass.

0:23:24.740 --> 0:23:27.281
If you're doing reads where

0:23:27.342 --> 0:23:28.522
either I run or they run,

0:23:28.762 --> 0:23:29.784
or the running back runs,

0:23:30.203 --> 0:23:31.765
you can't be wrong doing an RPO.

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So that's why it's so hard to defend,

0:23:33.446 --> 0:23:35.147
just learning from.

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And then Coach Bowen's perspective,

0:23:37.970 --> 0:23:38.891
the way he teaches it,

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Just him from going to the league,

0:23:41.733 --> 0:23:42.815
doing it at Penn State,

0:23:42.855 --> 0:23:44.516
he always brings different elements,

0:23:45.517 --> 0:23:46.436
different styles of

0:23:46.477 --> 0:23:47.478
learning and teaching.

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And then just getting it from him is just,

0:23:51.740 --> 0:23:52.760
it expands your knowledge

0:23:52.861 --> 0:23:54.803
on not just going based off

0:23:54.903 --> 0:23:55.742
just one person,

0:23:55.782 --> 0:23:57.163
just seeing like the whole defense,

0:23:57.203 --> 0:23:58.365
the whole shell unfold,

0:23:58.404 --> 0:23:59.224
and then just knowing where

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to go with the football.

0:24:00.887 --> 0:24:01.907
Let me piggyback off that a

0:24:01.928 --> 0:24:02.708
little bit real quick

0:24:02.728 --> 0:24:03.769
because one of the things

0:24:03.788 --> 0:24:05.068
that happened at the kind

0:24:05.108 --> 0:24:07.028
of beginning of last offseason is that,

0:24:07.548 --> 0:24:08.489
you know, you came in,

0:24:08.528 --> 0:24:09.869
you were in winter workouts,

0:24:09.910 --> 0:24:11.710
and all of a sudden, you know,

0:24:13.210 --> 0:24:15.109
Coach Bowen slides into quarterback coach,

0:24:15.130 --> 0:24:17.030
you know,

0:24:17.070 --> 0:24:18.070
when all the shuffling was made

0:24:18.090 --> 0:24:18.590
with the coaches.

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What was that like for you?

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And was that kind of seamless because,

0:24:22.451 --> 0:24:22.672
you know,

0:24:22.852 --> 0:24:24.652
Coach Bowen was your guy to begin with.

0:24:25.211 --> 0:24:27.172
He was kind of that big

0:24:27.211 --> 0:24:28.593
reason why you committed to begin with.

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So what was that like for you?

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I was I was glad that happened.

0:24:33.500 --> 0:24:34.442
Not I was glad that.

0:24:35.753 --> 0:24:37.273
Coach left and went to Cincinnati.

0:24:37.294 --> 0:24:38.335
That's a big thing for him.

0:24:38.394 --> 0:24:40.414
But I was glad Coach Bowen

0:24:40.434 --> 0:24:42.756
made that move to be the OC.

0:24:42.796 --> 0:24:44.496
And then from being the OC

0:24:44.536 --> 0:24:46.096
to the quarterback coach too,

0:24:46.477 --> 0:24:47.896
I feel like that's how it should be,

0:24:48.457 --> 0:24:49.357
where the OC is the

0:24:49.377 --> 0:24:50.557
quarterback coach because

0:24:50.877 --> 0:24:53.058
he wants you to understand the offense,

0:24:53.078 --> 0:24:53.858
how he sees it.

0:24:53.939 --> 0:24:55.558
So it's basically like he

0:24:55.598 --> 0:24:56.459
wants you to be another

0:24:56.519 --> 0:24:57.220
coach on the field.

0:24:57.700 --> 0:24:59.539
So just him doing that,

0:24:59.559 --> 0:25:00.440
I feel like that's what

0:25:00.480 --> 0:25:01.941
really brought this offense together.

0:25:02.902 --> 0:25:04.104
just him being in the room

0:25:04.183 --> 0:25:05.486
and then just us getting

0:25:05.526 --> 0:25:06.468
that perspective where he

0:25:06.528 --> 0:25:08.170
sees the offense going and

0:25:08.651 --> 0:25:09.593
us understanding from him.

0:25:11.377 --> 0:25:13.640
What's Tyler – what's Coach Bowen like?

0:25:13.779 --> 0:25:15.201
Like what's his – what's

0:25:15.221 --> 0:25:16.402
like the sense of humor?

0:25:16.843 --> 0:25:17.563
Is he dry?

0:25:17.603 --> 0:25:19.184
Is he just outlandish?

0:25:19.384 --> 0:25:21.145
Is he, you know, is he quiet?

0:25:21.226 --> 0:25:21.425
I mean,

0:25:21.445 --> 0:25:23.347
because he's an offensive lineman

0:25:23.367 --> 0:25:24.608
because we see the pictures

0:25:24.608 --> 0:25:25.829
– like when we see the

0:25:25.890 --> 0:25:27.310
pictures of him out on recruiting trips,

0:25:28.051 --> 0:25:30.074
most of the time he's head

0:25:30.094 --> 0:25:31.674
and shoulders above everybody else.

0:25:32.115 --> 0:25:32.976
So when we're – like when

0:25:33.016 --> 0:25:33.856
they recruit an offensive

0:25:33.896 --> 0:25:34.596
lineman and there's an

0:25:34.636 --> 0:25:36.078
offensive lineman as big as he is,

0:25:36.159 --> 0:25:37.179
it's like, oh, that's a big kid.

0:25:37.880 --> 0:25:38.601
But what's he like?

0:25:39.590 --> 0:25:40.612
Yeah, he's a real big dude.

0:25:40.672 --> 0:25:44.755
Because more than funny, he's wild.

0:25:44.796 --> 0:25:46.317
He's not quiet at all.

0:25:46.916 --> 0:25:48.358
He's wild with what he says.

0:25:48.398 --> 0:25:50.661
He says a lot of out-of-pocket stuff.

0:25:51.981 --> 0:25:54.284
Out-of-pocket and just he'll say anything,

0:25:54.463 --> 0:25:55.384
anywhere and out of it.

0:25:56.092 --> 0:25:57.212
Just you wouldn't expect the

0:25:57.232 --> 0:25:57.992
stuff he says.

0:25:58.073 --> 0:26:00.615
But he a funny dude and he

0:26:00.654 --> 0:26:01.795
real fun to be around.

0:26:02.375 --> 0:26:03.635
And that's how I wouldn't

0:26:03.655 --> 0:26:05.217
want any other coach like that.

0:26:05.237 --> 0:26:06.857
I don't want to be with any

0:26:06.978 --> 0:26:08.459
boring coach that don't talk,

0:26:09.539 --> 0:26:11.099
don't really interact with his players.

0:26:11.160 --> 0:26:12.221
But he try to interact with

0:26:12.280 --> 0:26:13.162
everybody he sees.

0:26:13.221 --> 0:26:14.782
And that's just a big thing

0:26:15.202 --> 0:26:17.183
just for him just to be a

0:26:17.263 --> 0:26:19.325
coach that really loves his players,

0:26:19.384 --> 0:26:20.385
interacts with his players,

0:26:20.425 --> 0:26:22.007
and then just be that funny

0:26:22.047 --> 0:26:23.086
coach that always just

0:26:23.307 --> 0:26:24.407
makes somebody laugh every day.

0:26:26.791 --> 0:26:27.492
That's what's up.

0:26:27.532 --> 0:26:28.093
That's what's up.

0:26:28.453 --> 0:26:29.375
So to clarify,

0:26:29.575 --> 0:26:31.076
I can say that Kyron probably can't.

0:26:31.497 --> 0:26:33.219
When I was playing ball,

0:26:33.239 --> 0:26:34.861
we had a coach that he

0:26:34.901 --> 0:26:36.942
would start our individual

0:26:36.982 --> 0:26:37.943
drills with some kind of

0:26:38.505 --> 0:26:39.506
outlandish question.

0:26:39.526 --> 0:26:40.567
He would say something like,

0:26:41.167 --> 0:26:42.048
for a billion dollars,

0:26:42.068 --> 0:26:43.549
would you go to Neverland

0:26:43.710 --> 0:26:44.611
and sleep in the same bed

0:26:44.651 --> 0:26:45.392
as Michael Jackson?

0:26:46.573 --> 0:26:47.815
You know, just stuff like that.

0:26:47.894 --> 0:26:48.335
And I'm like...

0:26:49.554 --> 0:26:50.214
For how much?

0:26:50.515 --> 0:26:50.815
A bill?

0:26:50.875 --> 0:26:52.615
Yeah, a bill.

0:26:53.076 --> 0:26:53.416
Shoot.

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Hey,

0:26:53.876 --> 0:26:55.419
I believe I can fight Mike off if I

0:26:55.479 --> 0:26:56.940
need to, but I'm going for that bill.

0:26:57.680 --> 0:26:58.621
But anyway, Kyron,

0:26:58.661 --> 0:27:00.342
we're going to kind of go

0:27:00.442 --> 0:27:02.084
to something different besides football.

0:27:02.824 --> 0:27:04.705
You know, like I said, we met your pops.

0:27:04.846 --> 0:27:07.887
I didn't know your mom until, you know,

0:27:07.928 --> 0:27:08.808
she started tuning in,

0:27:08.828 --> 0:27:11.049
and I kind of met her through your pops.

0:27:11.130 --> 0:27:12.872
I think she was hopping on

0:27:13.011 --> 0:27:14.232
the podcast in the back,

0:27:14.772 --> 0:27:16.074
and we learned a little bit

0:27:16.114 --> 0:27:17.315
about your family and how

0:27:17.394 --> 0:27:18.236
athletic they are.

0:27:18.714 --> 0:27:18.875
Man,

0:27:18.894 --> 0:27:20.135
you got a brother that was down at

0:27:20.175 --> 0:27:20.836
Florida State,

0:27:21.395 --> 0:27:22.696
a sister that's running track.

0:27:22.777 --> 0:27:24.218
We know your pops is still coaching.

0:27:24.718 --> 0:27:25.758
And I didn't know your mom

0:27:25.817 --> 0:27:26.999
ran track as well, right?

0:27:28.019 --> 0:27:28.839
Yeah, she ran track,

0:27:28.880 --> 0:27:30.019
but her main thing was softball.

0:27:30.441 --> 0:27:31.401
Softball, okay.

0:27:31.800 --> 0:27:34.363
So we got another layer there.

0:27:34.403 --> 0:27:37.683
So if I had $100 and we had

0:27:38.223 --> 0:27:39.664
the family reunion, the cookout,

0:27:40.806 --> 0:27:42.445
out of everybody in your family,

0:27:42.487 --> 0:27:43.487
who's the most athletic?

0:27:45.196 --> 0:27:46.438
Oh, man, he said it too quick.

0:27:47.138 --> 0:27:49.881
Kevin, you got to get him.

0:27:50.000 --> 0:27:51.001
He said no question.

0:27:52.742 --> 0:27:53.923
Kevin, you got to get him, man.

0:27:53.943 --> 0:27:54.724
He said it too quick.

0:27:54.744 --> 0:27:56.326
He didn't get nobody no room to live.

0:27:57.346 --> 0:27:59.108
He didn't even hype anybody else up.

0:27:59.148 --> 0:28:01.029
Like, hey, he does this well,

0:28:01.089 --> 0:28:04.032
she does this well, but it's still me.

0:28:04.512 --> 0:28:06.515
My mom got stories of how she was.

0:28:06.615 --> 0:28:07.275
I got to see it.

0:28:07.535 --> 0:28:09.037
My dad got the same stories.

0:28:09.477 --> 0:28:10.137
I got to see it.

0:28:10.157 --> 0:28:12.680
My dad was a D lineman, so...

0:28:14.715 --> 0:28:15.556
I really don't like,

0:28:15.855 --> 0:28:17.457
I can't say he more athletic than me.

0:28:17.497 --> 0:28:18.656
My brother, Olami,

0:28:18.977 --> 0:28:21.397
I can't say he more athletic than me.

0:28:21.417 --> 0:28:22.337
So you got everybody.

0:28:22.637 --> 0:28:23.438
What about your sister?

0:28:23.657 --> 0:28:24.357
She running, right?

0:28:25.117 --> 0:28:25.798
No, she throw.

0:28:26.239 --> 0:28:27.919
Oh, okay.

0:28:28.298 --> 0:28:29.798
So throwing is not really, I mean,

0:28:29.858 --> 0:28:30.500
it's just throwing.

0:28:31.539 --> 0:28:32.059
Oh, okay.

0:28:32.440 --> 0:28:33.759
Hold on, hold on.

0:28:33.980 --> 0:28:34.220
Hold on.

0:28:34.480 --> 0:28:36.161
Okay, before you answer this question,

0:28:37.240 --> 0:28:38.201
let me just go ahead,

0:28:38.540 --> 0:28:39.561
because Mama's out here.

0:28:39.642 --> 0:28:40.741
She says she's next.

0:28:41.122 --> 0:28:41.382
Okay.

0:28:42.184 --> 0:28:43.465
Does Mama win the silver

0:28:43.506 --> 0:28:44.826
medal of the Drones Family

0:28:44.866 --> 0:28:46.548
Olympics or is it somebody else?

0:28:47.490 --> 0:28:47.890
Remember,

0:28:47.950 --> 0:28:49.050
I'm going to put it back up here

0:28:49.070 --> 0:28:49.571
so you can see it.

0:28:49.592 --> 0:28:51.093
I want you to go back home.

0:28:51.113 --> 0:28:52.273
Don't answer that question.

0:28:52.974 --> 0:28:54.455
I'm going to go with it.

0:28:54.536 --> 0:28:55.057
It's a trap.

0:28:55.356 --> 0:28:56.397
I'm going to go with it.

0:28:56.438 --> 0:28:57.179
She might be it.

0:28:57.259 --> 0:28:57.919
She might be it.

0:28:57.959 --> 0:28:59.421
We'll take that.

0:28:59.661 --> 0:29:00.340
He's a smart man.

0:29:00.361 --> 0:29:01.942
By the way, just if you're wondering,

0:29:02.303 --> 0:29:04.325
Mrs. Drones played the hot

0:29:04.404 --> 0:29:05.846
corner and in the hole

0:29:05.865 --> 0:29:06.707
there at shortstop.

0:29:06.787 --> 0:29:07.147
Nice.

0:29:08.473 --> 0:29:09.515
There we go.

0:29:09.615 --> 0:29:12.196
Can I ask a question, sister?

0:29:12.336 --> 0:29:14.178
Does she throw shot foot or

0:29:14.659 --> 0:29:15.479
hammer or disc?

0:29:16.160 --> 0:29:18.141
She throws shot and disc.

0:29:18.842 --> 0:29:20.002
I'm surprised they're watching right now.

0:29:20.042 --> 0:29:21.804
She playing right now.

0:29:21.824 --> 0:29:22.984
She got a basketball game right now.

0:29:25.703 --> 0:29:26.045
I don't know.

0:29:26.065 --> 0:29:27.385
You got one eye on the game,

0:29:27.465 --> 0:29:29.087
one eye on the phone.

0:29:29.127 --> 0:29:29.969
The more you talking,

0:29:29.990 --> 0:29:31.211
you giving us so much stuff

0:29:31.230 --> 0:29:32.613
than everybody else doing, Kyron.

0:29:32.712 --> 0:29:33.374
I don't know, man.

0:29:33.733 --> 0:29:34.434
You said she playing

0:29:34.454 --> 0:29:35.615
basketball and throwing.

0:29:36.076 --> 0:29:37.097
She might give you buckets.

0:29:39.221 --> 0:29:40.642
I was on varsity basketball

0:29:40.662 --> 0:29:41.823
before I was on varsity football.

0:29:42.182 --> 0:29:43.223
Okay, my bad.

0:29:43.384 --> 0:29:45.486
I'm going to be quiet now.

0:29:45.506 --> 0:29:47.007
Kelly said, I will take a seat then.

0:29:47.027 --> 0:29:47.567
Hang on.

0:29:48.107 --> 0:29:48.387
Hold on.

0:29:48.407 --> 0:29:48.768
Wait a second.

0:29:48.788 --> 0:29:49.648
Just so you know, yep,

0:29:50.148 --> 0:29:51.289
they at the game watching,

0:29:51.349 --> 0:29:52.810
and they watching you on here with us.

0:29:52.830 --> 0:29:53.791
That's love.

0:29:53.852 --> 0:29:54.711
That's love right there.

0:29:54.731 --> 0:29:56.354
The Drones family out in Texas.

0:29:57.294 --> 0:29:58.515
Brian, I know we're getting near the end.

0:29:58.555 --> 0:29:59.256
We know, Kyron,

0:29:59.276 --> 0:30:02.577
we know you've got to be up

0:30:02.637 --> 0:30:03.098
early tomorrow,

0:30:03.138 --> 0:30:03.979
so we've got just a couple

0:30:03.999 --> 0:30:05.299
more fun questions to ask

0:30:05.359 --> 0:30:07.561
here before we drop it.

0:30:08.000 --> 0:30:09.121
Yeah, I mean, we got a go-to.

0:30:09.682 --> 0:30:10.501
Anytime we get a player,

0:30:10.521 --> 0:30:11.862
we get a coach on here, we got to know,

0:30:12.482 --> 0:30:14.002
what's your go-to food spot in the bird?

0:30:15.804 --> 0:30:18.444
Go-to, a lot of people say,

0:30:18.704 --> 0:30:20.845
I would say P.K.'s.

0:30:21.465 --> 0:30:21.945
P.K.'s?

0:30:22.526 --> 0:30:23.905
Yeah, we go to P.K.

0:30:23.885 --> 0:30:24.346
's a lot.

0:30:24.967 --> 0:30:26.307
And it's either, like, P.K.

0:30:26.287 --> 0:30:27.748
's or Kabuki.

0:30:27.788 --> 0:30:28.807
You own them Cheetah wings?

0:30:29.528 --> 0:30:31.489
Yeah, them good.

0:30:31.929 --> 0:30:33.190
I just told my dad, I said,

0:30:33.230 --> 0:30:34.630
next time he opens, he got to try it.

0:30:34.670 --> 0:30:36.691
He never had it before, but, yeah,

0:30:36.711 --> 0:30:37.471
those are good right there.

0:30:37.914 --> 0:30:38.715
Man, Kevin tripping.

0:30:38.756 --> 0:30:39.615
I thought all black girls

0:30:39.635 --> 0:30:41.938
had lemon pepper wings with mile on it.

0:30:43.098 --> 0:30:44.180
I don't think he know that's

0:30:44.200 --> 0:30:45.059
what cheetah wings are.

0:30:45.099 --> 0:30:46.181
He just heard cheetah wings.

0:30:46.240 --> 0:30:46.661
He just heard.

0:30:47.102 --> 0:30:47.362
Yeah,

0:30:47.382 --> 0:30:49.163
Coach Cheetah just threw his name on

0:30:49.182 --> 0:30:49.423
something,

0:30:49.442 --> 0:30:50.344
but we're going to let him have

0:30:50.364 --> 0:30:50.644
that then.

0:30:50.683 --> 0:30:51.765
We're going to let him call

0:30:51.785 --> 0:30:52.425
that cheetah wings.

0:30:52.445 --> 0:30:54.787
But, hey, that's a staple right there.

0:30:55.387 --> 0:30:55.667
Yeah.

0:30:56.532 --> 0:30:57.713
It definitely is a staple.

0:30:58.795 --> 0:30:59.255
So, Kyron,

0:30:59.295 --> 0:31:01.096
just real quick before we let

0:31:01.116 --> 0:31:01.696
you get out of here,

0:31:01.737 --> 0:31:02.817
what time do you have to

0:31:02.857 --> 0:31:03.638
get up in the morning?

0:31:03.659 --> 0:31:04.900
Because obviously, I mean,

0:31:04.920 --> 0:31:06.681
are you living off campus, we assume?

0:31:06.701 --> 0:31:09.743
Yeah, it's like eight minutes away.

0:31:09.763 --> 0:31:10.565
All right,

0:31:10.724 --> 0:31:11.846
what time you got to be up in

0:31:11.865 --> 0:31:13.027
the morning to get there?

0:31:13.146 --> 0:31:14.028
I get up at 4.45.

0:31:16.893 --> 0:31:18.114
I haven't seen that in a minute.

0:31:18.493 --> 0:31:20.996
My dog wakes me up at 445, man.

0:31:21.056 --> 0:31:22.096
Kudos to you, man.

0:31:22.217 --> 0:31:23.739
Tuesdays and Thursdays, though,

0:31:23.778 --> 0:31:24.578
I get up at 445.

0:31:24.578 --> 0:31:25.720
Okay, Tuesday, Thursday.

0:31:26.280 --> 0:31:27.541
Sigla, Tally,

0:31:27.561 --> 0:31:28.722
is there anything else before

0:31:28.762 --> 0:31:30.124
we wrap it up with this young man?

0:31:30.825 --> 0:31:31.525
I'm just going to say I

0:31:31.565 --> 0:31:32.586
appreciate the time, man.

0:31:32.645 --> 0:31:34.228
It's been a pleasure and

0:31:34.248 --> 0:31:35.209
looking forward to seeing

0:31:35.229 --> 0:31:36.829
what you guys have for us

0:31:36.869 --> 0:31:38.030
come spring and fall this year.

0:31:38.550 --> 0:31:39.132
Yeah, it was fun.

0:31:39.152 --> 0:31:40.153
I appreciate y'all having me.

0:31:40.663 --> 0:31:41.202
Definitely, man.

0:31:41.242 --> 0:31:42.423
We appreciate you coming through.

0:31:42.944 --> 0:31:43.664
Again, man,

0:31:43.704 --> 0:31:44.786
big appreciation for you

0:31:44.826 --> 0:31:46.067
talking to me about my son,

0:31:46.666 --> 0:31:48.048
your attention to detail, man,

0:31:48.107 --> 0:31:48.847
everything that you're

0:31:48.887 --> 0:31:50.849
doing with the team on and off the field.

0:31:51.769 --> 0:31:54.112
Us as fans, it's wonderful to see.

0:31:54.672 --> 0:31:58.094
And, I mean, the grades, all of that,

0:31:58.154 --> 0:31:58.934
keep doing it, man.

0:31:58.954 --> 0:32:00.036
Just keep doing what you're doing.

0:32:00.875 --> 0:32:01.836
I appreciate it.

0:32:02.403 --> 0:32:02.883
Yes, sir.

0:32:03.143 --> 0:32:03.804
You have a good night.

0:32:03.824 --> 0:32:05.505
I appreciate having you, man.

0:32:05.545 --> 0:32:06.545
Take care of yourself.

0:32:06.685 --> 0:32:08.646
I know Brian will see you in spring.

0:32:08.686 --> 0:32:09.586
Tally might see you in spring.

0:32:09.606 --> 0:32:10.867
I'm trying to see you in the spring.

0:32:10.948 --> 0:32:12.588
So you take care of yourself.

0:32:12.709 --> 0:32:13.670
Keep doing what you're doing.

0:32:13.710 --> 0:32:16.030
Keep your head up because, man,

0:32:16.290 --> 0:32:17.951
your future is so bright ahead,

0:32:18.011 --> 0:32:19.653
and we appreciate you

0:32:19.692 --> 0:32:21.213
taking 30 minutes out of

0:32:21.253 --> 0:32:22.134
your day because we know

0:32:22.174 --> 0:32:23.035
you are a busy young man.

0:32:23.055 --> 0:32:24.375
Yeah, that's our love.

0:32:24.395 --> 0:32:25.316
I appreciate all of y'all.

0:32:25.896 --> 0:32:26.396
Thank you, sir.

0:32:26.416 --> 0:32:27.137
Appreciate it.

0:32:27.157 --> 0:32:27.597
Thank you.

0:32:28.377 --> 0:32:28.698
Thank you.

0:32:34.070 --> 0:32:34.750
Awesome, boys.

0:32:34.871 --> 0:32:36.372
That's pretty good, man.

0:32:36.412 --> 0:32:37.173
We can end it right there.

0:32:37.192 --> 0:32:37.813
That's a good night.

0:32:38.113 --> 0:32:39.713
We're going to all get up at 445.

0:32:39.794 --> 0:32:40.855
I'm going to sit outside and

0:32:40.875 --> 0:32:42.174
call Brian and see if he's working out.

0:32:51.005 --> 0:32:51.224
Listen,

0:32:51.244 --> 0:32:53.086
the dog wakes me up about 445 at

0:32:53.126 --> 0:32:54.988
least three days a week, so I'm doing it,

0:32:55.028 --> 0:32:56.689
and I try to trudge back to bed.

0:32:56.769 --> 0:32:58.711
But, I mean, y'all,

0:32:58.730 --> 0:32:59.931
he chatted with us a few

0:33:00.432 --> 0:33:01.051
minutes beforehand,

0:33:01.071 --> 0:33:02.613
and he did ask directly

0:33:02.633 --> 0:33:03.413
about Tally's son.

0:33:03.453 --> 0:33:05.355
If y'all know who Tally's son is, I mean,

0:33:06.895 --> 0:33:08.317
he is an outstanding young man.

0:33:08.356 --> 0:33:09.038
You can tell it.

0:33:09.157 --> 0:33:12.359
You can tell it by how he speaks.

0:33:12.640 --> 0:33:14.281
He's very thorough, very thoughtful.

0:33:15.702 --> 0:33:16.123
He's funny.

0:33:17.155 --> 0:33:17.596
He's funny.

0:33:17.796 --> 0:33:19.477
He's one of those you feel

0:33:19.517 --> 0:33:20.377
like you could just sit and

0:33:20.397 --> 0:33:21.657
talk with him at a bar or

0:33:21.738 --> 0:33:22.919
at the field about anything.

0:33:22.939 --> 0:33:26.580
And a lot of guys aren't like that.

0:33:26.881 --> 0:33:28.060
And you can tell he's a very

0:33:28.101 --> 0:33:29.301
genuine young man.

0:33:29.321 --> 0:33:31.522
Mr. Drones,

0:33:31.722 --> 0:33:33.203
I know y'all are out there

0:33:33.243 --> 0:33:33.844
watching tonight.

0:33:33.864 --> 0:33:35.164
Y'all raised a very good

0:33:35.204 --> 0:33:38.365
young man in his shows in every way.

0:33:39.906 --> 0:33:40.728
Awesome young man.

0:33:41.928 --> 0:33:43.269
We got a lot more to unload.

0:33:44.230 --> 0:33:44.691
Yeah, we do.

0:33:44.990 --> 0:33:46.511
We got a lot to unload in this.

0:33:46.612 --> 0:33:49.375
So let's hit it up because

0:33:49.714 --> 0:33:51.215
basketball season is going on.

0:33:51.957 --> 0:33:52.797
And, well,

0:33:53.057 --> 0:33:55.779
Saturday the Hokies had one of

0:33:55.819 --> 0:33:56.980
those games that make you

0:33:57.000 --> 0:33:57.902
want to throw things.

0:33:58.962 --> 0:33:59.143
And –

0:34:00.006 --> 0:34:00.926
Sheldon's not with us,

0:34:00.967 --> 0:34:02.127
but we asked Sheldon some

0:34:02.167 --> 0:34:03.169
questions and Sheldon had

0:34:03.189 --> 0:34:04.450
some things he want to broke down.

0:34:04.650 --> 0:34:05.750
Brian and him got together

0:34:05.770 --> 0:34:07.031
for a few minutes yesterday.

0:34:07.633 --> 0:34:07.972
And Brian,

0:34:07.992 --> 0:34:09.273
let's kick it off because we did

0:34:09.353 --> 0:34:10.695
talk about that loss or

0:34:10.755 --> 0:34:11.795
Sheldon did talk about that

0:34:11.835 --> 0:34:12.876
loss and where we stand.

0:34:12.916 --> 0:34:14.038
So let's hit that up first

0:34:14.097 --> 0:34:16.539
about do we even have a

0:34:16.599 --> 0:34:17.661
chance to make the tournament?

0:34:18.181 --> 0:34:18.762
Here we go.

0:34:19.922 --> 0:34:21.284
After the loss to Miami

0:34:21.344 --> 0:34:24.226
without winning the ACC tournament,

0:34:24.447 --> 0:34:25.648
what are the chances the

0:34:25.688 --> 0:34:27.650
Hokies get into March Madness this year?

0:34:29.081 --> 0:34:29.581
Unfortunately,

0:34:29.621 --> 0:34:30.822
the chances are not looking

0:34:30.862 --> 0:34:31.623
great right now.

0:34:31.784 --> 0:34:33.184
So we have,

0:34:33.784 --> 0:34:34.925
there's a stats website called

0:34:34.965 --> 0:34:37.447
Bart Torvik that does NCAA

0:34:37.547 --> 0:34:38.427
tournament simulators.

0:34:39.108 --> 0:34:39.829
So you run a bunch of

0:34:39.849 --> 0:34:40.829
simulations and it spits

0:34:40.849 --> 0:34:41.751
out a percentage chance to

0:34:41.791 --> 0:34:42.391
make the tournament.

0:34:43.090 --> 0:34:43.431
Right now,

0:34:43.472 --> 0:34:45.873
the Hokies have a 23.3% chance

0:34:45.893 --> 0:34:46.974
to make the tournament as I

0:34:47.014 --> 0:34:47.713
last checked it.

0:34:48.355 --> 0:34:49.536
And that includes 4% chance

0:34:49.556 --> 0:34:50.456
for an automatic bid if

0:34:51.516 --> 0:34:52.577
they win the ACC tournament.

0:34:53.199 --> 0:34:55.081
and a 90% chance for an at-large bid.

0:34:55.141 --> 0:34:56.322
So I think for me,

0:34:56.583 --> 0:34:57.224
you're looking more at that

0:34:57.284 --> 0:34:58.025
at-large bid because I

0:34:58.045 --> 0:34:59.425
think it's pretty unlikely

0:34:59.445 --> 0:35:00.786
that you'd win the ACC a

0:35:00.827 --> 0:35:01.807
second time in three years.

0:35:02.728 --> 0:35:04.231
But bottom line,

0:35:04.251 --> 0:35:05.411
a one in five chance right

0:35:05.431 --> 0:35:06.052
now for the Hokies.

0:35:06.432 --> 0:35:06.992
They certainly have their

0:35:07.012 --> 0:35:07.693
work cut out for them in

0:35:07.733 --> 0:35:08.434
this final stretch.

0:35:13.179 --> 0:35:13.480
I mean...

0:35:14.820 --> 0:35:18.892
I think before it was something, what, 33%,

0:35:18.892 --> 0:35:20.742
34% chance before we lost that game.

0:35:21.543 --> 0:35:23.224
And that game was frustrating Saturday.

0:35:24.244 --> 0:35:25.164
That game was frustrating

0:35:25.204 --> 0:35:26.965
Saturday afternoon to watch

0:35:27.525 --> 0:35:29.445
because I went to a birthday party.

0:35:29.465 --> 0:35:30.106
We're up nine.

0:35:30.547 --> 0:35:31.706
I'm keeping, we still up nine.

0:35:32.527 --> 0:35:34.007
And me and one of the dads

0:35:34.027 --> 0:35:34.788
there just get chatting

0:35:34.807 --> 0:35:35.648
about something else and I

0:35:35.668 --> 0:35:36.768
ain't paying attention to my phone.

0:35:36.849 --> 0:35:37.608
Talk 10 minutes.

0:35:38.148 --> 0:35:38.989
I go look back at the phone

0:35:39.030 --> 0:35:39.630
and they up four.

0:35:39.650 --> 0:35:40.110
It's like.

0:35:43.173 --> 0:35:45.675
This team is, I mean.

0:35:47.157 --> 0:35:48.358
It's frustrating to watch.

0:35:48.418 --> 0:35:49.858
I know Shelton had probably

0:35:49.878 --> 0:35:50.719
a little bit more to say on

0:35:50.759 --> 0:35:51.739
that Miami game, too,

0:35:51.800 --> 0:35:53.260
so we can run that and let

0:35:53.300 --> 0:35:54.202
him finish that thing out.

0:35:54.581 --> 0:35:55.481
Yeah, let's finish it out.

0:35:56.663 --> 0:35:57.704
And with that loss to Miami,

0:35:57.724 --> 0:35:58.284
it looked like that

0:35:58.324 --> 0:35:59.925
percentage dropped pretty sharply.

0:35:59.985 --> 0:36:01.547
I think, if I remember correctly,

0:36:01.567 --> 0:36:02.427
seeing something about

0:36:02.626 --> 0:36:04.628
right at 50-50 ahead of that game.

0:36:05.688 --> 0:36:06.730
So it seems like that was

0:36:06.949 --> 0:36:09.251
kind of a win or stay home

0:36:09.311 --> 0:36:10.713
type situation for the Hokies.

0:36:11.521 --> 0:36:12.141
It was, yes.

0:36:12.222 --> 0:36:12.563
And again,

0:36:12.663 --> 0:36:13.824
it depends on the model you look at.

0:36:13.923 --> 0:36:14.664
Some of them were a little

0:36:14.684 --> 0:36:15.324
bit more bullish.

0:36:15.385 --> 0:36:16.565
Some of them were not so

0:36:16.925 --> 0:36:17.945
rosy on the Hokies' chances.

0:36:18.005 --> 0:36:18.206
I mean,

0:36:18.266 --> 0:36:20.327
I saw some at 33% before the Miami game.

0:36:20.967 --> 0:36:22.268
But needless to say, I mean,

0:36:22.349 --> 0:36:23.250
that was a road game

0:36:23.369 --> 0:36:24.650
against a quad one team.

0:36:25.530 --> 0:36:26.431
And the fact that the Hokies

0:36:26.452 --> 0:36:28.753
let us play was pretty, pretty, you know,

0:36:28.773 --> 0:36:29.634
pretty devastating.

0:36:29.693 --> 0:36:29.934
I mean,

0:36:29.994 --> 0:36:31.554
that game had a huge delta in terms of,

0:36:31.936 --> 0:36:32.096
you know,

0:36:32.115 --> 0:36:32.936
what it would have done for them

0:36:32.996 --> 0:36:35.597
had they won the game versus, you know,

0:36:35.697 --> 0:36:36.639
them losing it in terms of

0:36:36.679 --> 0:36:38.079
their probability to make the tournament.

0:36:38.219 --> 0:36:39.661
So big missed opportunity for sure.

0:36:43.106 --> 0:36:43.945
That says it all, man.

0:36:44.045 --> 0:36:45.065
I mean, you know,

0:36:45.186 --> 0:36:47.206
when you look at the chances there,

0:36:47.266 --> 0:36:48.527
that was a game that,

0:36:49.387 --> 0:36:50.588
for all intents and purposes,

0:36:50.648 --> 0:36:51.807
was kind of a must win if

0:36:51.847 --> 0:36:52.867
the Hokies wanted to get

0:36:52.927 --> 0:36:54.088
into the tournament without

0:36:54.128 --> 0:36:55.447
having to run the table in

0:36:55.467 --> 0:36:56.228
the ACC tournament.

0:36:57.668 --> 0:36:57.849
Yeah.

0:36:58.409 --> 0:37:01.190
I mean, it's frustrating.

0:37:01.210 --> 0:37:02.590
It's frustrating to talk

0:37:02.650 --> 0:37:03.769
about and watch and think

0:37:03.809 --> 0:37:05.690
about when you start

0:37:05.731 --> 0:37:06.670
digging into it a little

0:37:06.710 --> 0:37:07.731
bit and looking at the game.

0:37:07.791 --> 0:37:08.010
I mean,

0:37:09.195 --> 0:37:10.976
Handling pressure is usually

0:37:11.016 --> 0:37:12.277
tough when you play the

0:37:12.297 --> 0:37:13.197
teams that are physical.

0:37:13.217 --> 0:37:15.380
This pressure on you coming

0:37:15.400 --> 0:37:16.661
down the floor is tough.

0:37:16.681 --> 0:37:17.501
We're turning it over.

0:37:18.322 --> 0:37:20.262
We're living and dying by the three.

0:37:20.963 --> 0:37:22.144
And we just don't have

0:37:22.164 --> 0:37:24.686
enough guys that can create

0:37:24.726 --> 0:37:25.367
their own shot.

0:37:25.967 --> 0:37:26.588
In basketball,

0:37:26.608 --> 0:37:27.509
that's the name of the game.

0:37:27.768 --> 0:37:28.650
That's what kind of worried

0:37:28.670 --> 0:37:29.971
me before the season.

0:37:30.865 --> 0:37:32.226
When you have smaller guards,

0:37:32.286 --> 0:37:36.731
no disrespect to Padula and

0:37:36.951 --> 0:37:37.972
Couture and any of those

0:37:38.012 --> 0:37:38.833
guys that's playing.

0:37:39.373 --> 0:37:40.054
But, you know,

0:37:40.094 --> 0:37:41.014
you play against some bigger

0:37:41.074 --> 0:37:43.056
guards that some of the ACC

0:37:43.096 --> 0:37:44.737
has to offer and just

0:37:44.777 --> 0:37:45.978
getting physical on you,

0:37:46.418 --> 0:37:47.739
it's hard to create your shot.

0:37:48.541 --> 0:37:50.242
That's why when you get some

0:37:50.262 --> 0:37:52.003
of these guys that have left, like,

0:37:52.483 --> 0:37:56.721
you know, Rodney Rice and Buchanan and –

0:37:56.721 --> 0:37:59.161
Darius Maddox, some of these bigger guards,

0:37:59.282 --> 0:38:00.961
it's frustrating because

0:38:01.001 --> 0:38:02.141
those guys you feel like

0:38:02.161 --> 0:38:03.322
could help in those

0:38:03.362 --> 0:38:05.963
situations where you need

0:38:06.003 --> 0:38:07.222
somebody that can create a

0:38:07.262 --> 0:38:09.103
shot or even just shoot

0:38:09.164 --> 0:38:10.483
over somebody because they're taller.

0:38:11.103 --> 0:38:12.844
So that's what it feels like

0:38:12.864 --> 0:38:13.744
kind of watching it to me.

0:38:14.885 --> 0:38:16.945
And now Sheldon went in, you and Brian,

0:38:17.125 --> 0:38:17.344
Brian,

0:38:17.364 --> 0:38:18.445
you and Sheldon went in a little

0:38:18.485 --> 0:38:20.346
deeper because I want to

0:38:20.385 --> 0:38:21.885
know because as I'm

0:38:21.945 --> 0:38:22.865
watching the game and

0:38:23.106 --> 0:38:24.867
sometimes y'all know as well as I do,

0:38:24.907 --> 0:38:25.646
we get pulled away

0:38:26.782 --> 0:38:28.543
times whether it be a kids

0:38:28.563 --> 0:38:29.784
hoops game or birthday

0:38:29.844 --> 0:38:31.407
parties or hey running the

0:38:31.427 --> 0:38:32.387
store need to get something

0:38:32.407 --> 0:38:33.188
and you're trying to follow

0:38:33.208 --> 0:38:34.789
it on your phone and I

0:38:34.949 --> 0:38:36.210
asked sheldon I wanted

0:38:36.250 --> 0:38:37.271
sheldon to talk about what

0:38:37.351 --> 0:38:38.452
metric do we need to watch

0:38:38.592 --> 0:38:39.693
because when I do get

0:38:39.753 --> 0:38:40.693
pulled away to go to a

0:38:40.753 --> 0:38:42.014
birthday party on saturday

0:38:42.034 --> 0:38:43.056
when we're playing at two

0:38:44.295 --> 0:38:45.918
what what's what data point

0:38:45.938 --> 0:38:46.898
do I need to watch them I

0:38:46.938 --> 0:38:47.659
see going a certain

0:38:47.679 --> 0:38:48.639
direction what is it so

0:38:48.659 --> 0:38:49.701
let's let's hear what he's

0:38:49.800 --> 0:38:51.161
found out through his uh research

0:38:52.452 --> 0:38:52.552
Yeah,

0:38:52.572 --> 0:38:53.853
and this Hokies team has kind of been

0:38:53.893 --> 0:38:55.452
a little up and down.

0:38:55.492 --> 0:38:56.474
They've had some games where

0:38:56.494 --> 0:38:57.795
they've looked better.

0:38:57.855 --> 0:38:59.135
They've had some games where

0:38:59.195 --> 0:39:00.155
they just can't really put

0:39:00.215 --> 0:39:01.175
all the pieces together.

0:39:01.195 --> 0:39:03.516
Is there a metric that's

0:39:03.556 --> 0:39:04.538
kind of proving to be most

0:39:04.577 --> 0:39:05.878
predictive for a Hokies win

0:39:05.918 --> 0:39:06.759
or a Hokies loss?

0:39:08.519 --> 0:39:09.000
Well, I mean,

0:39:09.139 --> 0:39:10.179
generally speaking in basketball,

0:39:10.239 --> 0:39:11.320
obviously shooting is the

0:39:11.340 --> 0:39:12.101
name of the game, right?

0:39:12.201 --> 0:39:13.681
So you got to hit a good

0:39:13.722 --> 0:39:15.103
field goal percentage if you want to win.

0:39:15.583 --> 0:39:15.902
And, you know,

0:39:15.922 --> 0:39:16.742
you can look at effective

0:39:16.762 --> 0:39:17.364
field goal percentage,

0:39:17.384 --> 0:39:18.284
which is obviously a very

0:39:18.324 --> 0:39:19.445
big predictor of who wins the game.

0:39:19.485 --> 0:39:19.625
I mean,

0:39:19.644 --> 0:39:20.565
that's probably the single biggest

0:39:20.605 --> 0:39:22.186
predictor on a night-by-night basis.

0:39:22.822 --> 0:39:24.722
But I thought that looking

0:39:24.742 --> 0:39:25.742
at turnover percentage,

0:39:25.802 --> 0:39:26.603
turnovers in general for

0:39:26.623 --> 0:39:27.563
the Hokies have been sort

0:39:27.583 --> 0:39:28.802
of a bugaboo this year.

0:39:29.344 --> 0:39:30.724
And that seems to me to be

0:39:30.744 --> 0:39:31.824
the biggest predictor of

0:39:31.884 --> 0:39:33.065
whether or not they win the game.

0:39:33.784 --> 0:39:35.724
So when Tech has a turnover

0:39:35.744 --> 0:39:36.885
percentage lower than 17%, they are 10-3.

0:39:36.925 --> 0:39:38.545
And when it is over 17%, they are 3-6.

0:39:43.771 --> 0:39:44.172
So to me,

0:39:44.211 --> 0:39:45.432
that kind of speaks to their issues.

0:39:45.753 --> 0:39:48.215
If they limit the turnovers to, you know,

0:39:48.315 --> 0:39:50.516
say 12, 13, less than that, that's about,

0:39:50.536 --> 0:39:51.056
you know,

0:39:51.076 --> 0:39:52.998
that translates to about 17% in

0:39:53.038 --> 0:39:54.018
a 70 possession game.

0:39:54.038 --> 0:39:55.699
That's probably the ideal spot.

0:39:56.119 --> 0:39:57.219
But they just haven't been

0:39:57.260 --> 0:39:57.960
really taking care of the

0:39:58.001 --> 0:39:59.862
ball in these past few weeks in ACC play.

0:39:59.882 --> 0:40:00.842
And that's really been the

0:40:00.862 --> 0:40:01.643
biggest thing hurting them.

0:40:02.798 --> 0:40:04.380
like in a crunch time of the

0:40:04.400 --> 0:40:05.440
miami game when you have

0:40:05.659 --> 0:40:06.340
kind of three or four

0:40:06.380 --> 0:40:07.380
possessions back to back

0:40:07.400 --> 0:40:08.521
where there's turnovers and

0:40:09.001 --> 0:40:10.021
you go from a nine point

0:40:10.061 --> 0:40:11.483
lead to a three or four

0:40:11.523 --> 0:40:12.784
point deficit pretty quick

0:40:13.563 --> 0:40:14.224
that's really been the

0:40:14.264 --> 0:40:15.284
thing that's been been

0:40:15.565 --> 0:40:17.585
killing them you say right

0:40:17.626 --> 0:40:18.405
and the funny thing is

0:40:18.545 --> 0:40:19.306
they've actually shot the

0:40:19.346 --> 0:40:20.527
lights out of the ball you

0:40:20.547 --> 0:40:21.387
know if you look at their

0:40:21.407 --> 0:40:22.628
shooting stats in acc play

0:40:22.648 --> 0:40:23.347
I mean they're pretty much

0:40:23.387 --> 0:40:24.128
the best in the conference

0:40:24.148 --> 0:40:24.668
but the problem is

0:40:25.463 --> 0:40:25.664
You know,

0:40:25.704 --> 0:40:26.625
they're turning the ball over and

0:40:27.164 --> 0:40:28.324
they're not getting offensive rebounds.

0:40:28.565 --> 0:40:30.146
So those two things, you know,

0:40:30.186 --> 0:40:32.427
they're losing out on those

0:40:32.507 --> 0:40:33.246
extra possessions.

0:40:33.447 --> 0:40:34.608
And so, you know,

0:40:34.648 --> 0:40:35.869
you can shoot the ball as well as you can,

0:40:36.268 --> 0:40:37.548
but if you're not getting

0:40:37.568 --> 0:40:38.469
those extra possessions,

0:40:38.789 --> 0:40:39.550
and the other team is,

0:40:40.090 --> 0:40:41.311
it's not going to go well for you.

0:40:46.032 --> 0:40:47.034
Name of the game, turnovers.

0:40:47.414 --> 0:40:49.054
But it's wild.

0:40:49.275 --> 0:40:50.215
But it's wild, though.

0:40:50.954 --> 0:40:51.976
Could you all imagine what

0:40:51.996 --> 0:40:52.896
this team would be like if

0:40:52.916 --> 0:40:53.496
they weren't the best

0:40:53.536 --> 0:40:54.556
shooting team in the ACC?

0:40:56.172 --> 0:40:56.833
Can you imagine that?

0:40:57.253 --> 0:40:57.454
Yeah.

0:40:57.534 --> 0:40:58.775
What, like nine wins maybe?

0:40:59.336 --> 0:40:59.737
Yeah.

0:40:59.777 --> 0:41:00.298
Conversely,

0:41:00.338 --> 0:41:01.661
if they didn't turn the ball

0:41:01.721 --> 0:41:02.523
over at such a rate,

0:41:02.543 --> 0:41:04.144
where would they be as well

0:41:04.184 --> 0:41:04.686
as they're shooting?

0:41:05.554 --> 0:41:08.177
So it's like if you have one

0:41:08.237 --> 0:41:09.416
other guy out there that

0:41:09.476 --> 0:41:11.858
can handle the ball a little bit more,

0:41:12.719 --> 0:41:14.460
lean on them at times when

0:41:14.860 --> 0:41:15.940
you're getting that pressure.

0:41:15.960 --> 0:41:18.242
A guy like Padula does not

0:41:18.302 --> 0:41:20.744
have to kind of be a

0:41:20.824 --> 0:41:22.844
ball-stopping point guard

0:41:23.025 --> 0:41:24.646
at times when the scoring

0:41:24.666 --> 0:41:26.467
just isn't quite coming at

0:41:26.507 --> 0:41:27.427
the rate that we need to

0:41:27.487 --> 0:41:28.208
because we're not getting

0:41:28.248 --> 0:41:29.068
those extra possessions

0:41:29.088 --> 0:41:30.068
with offensive rebounds.

0:41:30.329 --> 0:41:31.030
We're losing extra

0:41:31.050 --> 0:41:31.889
possessions with them

0:41:31.929 --> 0:41:32.931
getting offensive rebounds.

0:41:35.233 --> 0:41:35.472
Yep.

0:41:36.233 --> 0:41:37.875
So we hit one last piece

0:41:37.914 --> 0:41:38.815
here with Sheldon because

0:41:38.894 --> 0:41:39.936
we kind of wanted to know

0:41:40.556 --> 0:41:42.557
who's the pivot player, who's the player.

0:41:42.577 --> 0:41:44.119
So now we know, right?

0:41:45.418 --> 0:41:46.460
If we start looking at a

0:41:46.480 --> 0:41:47.581
70-possession game,

0:41:47.621 --> 0:41:48.961
if we're aiming towards –

0:41:48.961 --> 0:41:51.643
I'm trying to do the math here.

0:41:51.663 --> 0:41:52.977
What, 14, 14,

0:41:52.977 --> 0:41:55.025
15 turnovers in a 70-possession game?

0:41:55.766 --> 0:41:56.766
We ain't going to win the game.

0:41:57.606 --> 0:41:58.768
But we kind of wanted

0:41:58.827 --> 0:42:01.297
Sheldon to say who's the player that –

0:42:01.297 --> 0:42:03.018
effectively, if they have a game,

0:42:03.259 --> 0:42:04.219
we have a chance to win.

0:42:04.300 --> 0:42:05.260
So he hit that up too.

0:42:05.280 --> 0:42:08.804
All right, let's switch it over to this.

0:42:08.885 --> 0:42:10.106
Is there a player on this

0:42:10.226 --> 0:42:12.208
team that's kind of that

0:42:12.268 --> 0:42:13.289
pivot type player where if

0:42:13.309 --> 0:42:14.971
they play kind of above their average,

0:42:15.291 --> 0:42:16.231
it's more than likely going

0:42:16.251 --> 0:42:17.353
to lead to a Hokies win,

0:42:17.373 --> 0:42:18.534
or if they're below that average,

0:42:18.914 --> 0:42:20.056
go ahead and put an L on the board.

0:42:21.266 --> 0:42:22.226
Yeah, so for this question,

0:42:22.327 --> 0:42:23.126
I initially thought about

0:42:23.186 --> 0:42:24.447
Sean Padula just because

0:42:24.608 --> 0:42:25.909
he's been such a high usage

0:42:25.949 --> 0:42:26.650
guy for the Hokies.

0:42:26.730 --> 0:42:28.771
I mean, if you look at the statistics,

0:42:29.751 --> 0:42:31.574
there are very few teams in

0:42:31.594 --> 0:42:32.875
the country that are more

0:42:32.894 --> 0:42:33.594
reliant on their point

0:42:33.614 --> 0:42:34.655
guard than the Hokies are.

0:42:35.195 --> 0:42:36.617
And Padula's had to bear a

0:42:36.657 --> 0:42:37.637
really huge load this season.

0:42:38.259 --> 0:42:39.039
But with that being said,

0:42:39.079 --> 0:42:39.800
looking at the stats,

0:42:39.860 --> 0:42:40.960
I actually think Len Kidd,

0:42:42.702 --> 0:42:43.983
his performance in the

0:42:44.023 --> 0:42:44.764
games is a much bigger

0:42:44.804 --> 0:42:46.085
indicator of whether or not

0:42:46.105 --> 0:42:46.824
the Hokies win or lose.

0:42:46.844 --> 0:42:47.766
So just looking at, you know,

0:42:48.442 --> 0:42:49.802
his offensive rating here.

0:42:49.842 --> 0:42:50.023
I mean,

0:42:50.043 --> 0:42:52.103
he was really good against Miami in

0:42:52.143 --> 0:42:53.625
that game a few weeks ago, you know,

0:42:53.664 --> 0:42:54.826
going A for A from the field.

0:42:55.126 --> 0:42:55.865
And he's always had a good

0:42:55.905 --> 0:42:56.666
field goal percentage.

0:42:57.146 --> 0:42:58.568
But, you know, typically, you know,

0:42:58.847 --> 0:42:59.827
the more effective he is

0:42:59.947 --> 0:43:01.648
and the more shots he takes during a game,

0:43:01.688 --> 0:43:02.769
because he's such a good shooter,

0:43:02.789 --> 0:43:05.050
and he takes shots that fit his game,

0:43:05.630 --> 0:43:05.891
you know,

0:43:06.112 --> 0:43:07.612
that's going to help Hokies win.

0:43:08.032 --> 0:43:09.413
When he's not off, or excuse me,

0:43:09.432 --> 0:43:10.373
when I shouldn't say he's

0:43:10.534 --> 0:43:12.275
off and he's not hitting shots,

0:43:12.974 --> 0:43:14.235
that's a really bad sign.

0:43:14.275 --> 0:43:15.996
Because I think, you know, he's...

0:43:16.478 --> 0:43:18.000
He's been the presence down low, obviously,

0:43:18.420 --> 0:43:19.739
and when you're not getting

0:43:19.780 --> 0:43:21.440
production from that five

0:43:21.460 --> 0:43:23.362
spot in the Mike Young offense, obviously,

0:43:23.422 --> 0:43:24.181
Elijah Potee,

0:43:24.242 --> 0:43:26.043
his offense really isn't quite his game.

0:43:26.063 --> 0:43:28.123
That's going to be a problem

0:43:28.143 --> 0:43:29.804
because now you don't have the spacing,

0:43:30.284 --> 0:43:30.983
and you've got to force

0:43:31.023 --> 0:43:32.105
yourself to shoot threes,

0:43:32.144 --> 0:43:33.045
and that hurts you all around.

0:43:33.125 --> 0:43:34.365
So I think Len Kidd is

0:43:34.405 --> 0:43:37.067
probably the biggest guy where you say,

0:43:37.646 --> 0:43:39.547
as he goes, so go the Hokies.

0:43:40.887 --> 0:43:41.128
All right,

0:43:41.148 --> 0:43:42.608
so he's kind of the X factor for

0:43:42.789 --> 0:43:43.148
this team.

0:43:45.250 --> 0:43:46.230
And it makes sense because

0:43:46.369 --> 0:43:47.610
if y'all remember what the

0:43:47.670 --> 0:43:50.072
early part of ACC play, he struggled.

0:43:50.992 --> 0:43:52.032
And as did Virginia Tech

0:43:52.072 --> 0:43:53.132
struggling out of the gate

0:43:53.733 --> 0:43:57.315
with that back in January, you know,

0:43:58.175 --> 0:43:59.315
like the loss at Florida State,

0:43:59.335 --> 0:44:00.675
I don't think he had a good game there.

0:44:00.775 --> 0:44:02.137
Definitely the Wake Forest game.

0:44:02.177 --> 0:44:04.018
I know he struggled down there and it's,

0:44:05.777 --> 0:44:07.639
you know, I mean,

0:44:07.759 --> 0:44:08.719
you look at what's left on

0:44:08.739 --> 0:44:10.519
the schedule for this team right now.

0:44:10.980 --> 0:44:11.960
I mean, they got a,

0:44:13.099 --> 0:44:14.340
They got Notre Dame this weekend.

0:44:14.820 --> 0:44:16.081
If they don't beat Notre Dame,

0:44:16.362 --> 0:44:17.501
that 20% is going to go to

0:44:17.521 --> 0:44:19.103
like five because you

0:44:19.123 --> 0:44:20.463
cannot have that bad a loss.

0:44:20.963 --> 0:44:22.023
Then you got Florida State

0:44:22.043 --> 0:44:25.726
and North Carolina, Virginia, Pitt,

0:44:25.806 --> 0:44:27.706
Syracuse, Wake Forest, Louisville,

0:44:28.507 --> 0:44:28.967
Notre Dame.

0:44:30.168 --> 0:44:32.108
There's like, A,

0:44:32.148 --> 0:44:33.429
they can't lose any of the bad ones.

0:44:33.449 --> 0:44:34.389
They can't lose to the Notre

0:44:34.409 --> 0:44:35.210
Dames or Louisvilles.

0:44:36.561 --> 0:44:38.023
It's almost like they got to just run,

0:44:38.063 --> 0:44:38.282
right?

0:44:38.824 --> 0:44:39.483
Yeah, for real.

0:44:39.543 --> 0:44:40.125
You got to just run.

0:44:40.164 --> 0:44:42.465
If you want to at large,

0:44:42.826 --> 0:44:43.487
you got to run table.

0:44:44.788 --> 0:44:45.027
Yep.

0:44:45.427 --> 0:44:45.827
Pretty much.

0:44:46.208 --> 0:44:46.429
Yep.

0:44:46.528 --> 0:44:47.730
I mean, it's grim.

0:44:48.349 --> 0:44:49.271
It's grim to think about.

0:44:49.331 --> 0:44:50.711
It's grim to do right now, man.

0:44:50.731 --> 0:44:53.554
Like, you got to win the ACC.

0:44:53.693 --> 0:44:54.494
Like you said, pretty much,

0:44:54.514 --> 0:44:55.275
you got to run the table.

0:44:55.635 --> 0:44:56.615
They have a better chance of

0:44:56.655 --> 0:44:57.496
running the table than they

0:44:57.536 --> 0:44:58.516
do winning the ACC.

0:44:58.936 --> 0:44:59.137
Yes.

0:45:00.407 --> 0:45:02.389
But you know why it's grim?

0:45:02.608 --> 0:45:03.610
It's because you look and

0:45:03.630 --> 0:45:05.471
you see there's some talent on this team.

0:45:05.490 --> 0:45:07.353
Like you see, like you mentioned it,

0:45:08.034 --> 0:45:09.474
it is literally one player away.

0:45:10.155 --> 0:45:10.956
If they had,

0:45:10.976 --> 0:45:13.599
if Rodney Rice was still here

0:45:13.858 --> 0:45:15.579
or one of those guys who transferred,

0:45:15.599 --> 0:45:16.521
they could get their own

0:45:16.581 --> 0:45:17.501
shot occasionally.

0:45:19.400 --> 0:45:21.543
I'm not saying like a top 15 team,

0:45:21.603 --> 0:45:23.063
but I think definitely a

0:45:23.083 --> 0:45:24.465
top 35 team and easily in.

0:45:24.967 --> 0:45:25.306
Right.

0:45:25.527 --> 0:45:26.108
And that's where it's

0:45:26.148 --> 0:45:28.670
getting frustrating where people leave.

0:45:28.971 --> 0:45:29.572
You know what?

0:45:29.612 --> 0:45:30.572
You got the kid that went to

0:45:30.612 --> 0:45:31.574
Mason's playing good.

0:45:31.634 --> 0:45:31.914
Bama.

0:45:31.934 --> 0:45:33.697
So Bama still has been all over the place.

0:45:33.757 --> 0:45:34.438
I don't know if he's a good.

0:45:34.478 --> 0:45:34.657
Right.

0:45:37.050 --> 0:45:37.311
I mean,

0:45:37.331 --> 0:45:38.552
that kid's made a cross-country

0:45:38.572 --> 0:45:39.793
journey of a college career.

0:45:39.893 --> 0:45:42.155
But you mentioned Buchanan earlier,

0:45:42.177 --> 0:45:43.858
and you mentioned Maddox.

0:45:44.378 --> 0:45:45.199
And even somebody like

0:45:45.239 --> 0:45:46.601
Naheem Allen that played a

0:45:46.641 --> 0:45:47.762
pivotal role in UConn's

0:45:47.782 --> 0:45:48.483
championship last year,

0:45:48.503 --> 0:45:49.523
he didn't score all the points,

0:45:49.945 --> 0:45:51.385
but he was still a pivotal role.

0:45:51.465 --> 0:45:53.628
So I don't know.

0:45:54.349 --> 0:45:54.809
I don't know.

0:45:55.530 --> 0:45:56.311
I think the problem we're

0:45:56.351 --> 0:45:57.572
looking at is that, you know,

0:45:58.972 --> 0:46:00.235
From an offensive mind

0:46:00.295 --> 0:46:01.335
perspective and just from

0:46:01.376 --> 0:46:02.717
an overall coaching perspective,

0:46:02.777 --> 0:46:04.199
I think Mike Young is doing

0:46:04.240 --> 0:46:05.101
a damn good job.

0:46:05.141 --> 0:46:06.322
I think the problem is that

0:46:07.065 --> 0:46:08.266
we have had a problem

0:46:08.887 --> 0:46:12.172
bringing in and retaining good talent.

0:46:13.516 --> 0:46:14.597
And at some point, you know,

0:46:14.617 --> 0:46:15.737
the guys that he brought in

0:46:15.777 --> 0:46:16.797
when he first got here,

0:46:17.257 --> 0:46:18.478
they gelled really quick in

0:46:18.518 --> 0:46:19.559
that first year when it

0:46:19.579 --> 0:46:20.438
didn't matter what the

0:46:20.478 --> 0:46:21.378
number on the left-hand

0:46:21.438 --> 0:46:23.639
side of the win-loss was going to be.

0:46:23.659 --> 0:46:24.601
You know,

0:46:25.001 --> 0:46:26.221
everybody knew that that was

0:46:26.260 --> 0:46:27.141
going to be a struggle bus

0:46:27.161 --> 0:46:28.161
of a season to a point.

0:46:28.902 --> 0:46:29.762
But they gelled.

0:46:30.695 --> 0:46:32.456
know year two and three you

0:46:32.496 --> 0:46:33.856
know you see some action

0:46:33.916 --> 0:46:35.858
right with with those guys

0:46:36.179 --> 0:46:37.780
gelling maturing getting

0:46:37.840 --> 0:46:38.820
into the back half of their

0:46:38.840 --> 0:46:40.322
career and now we're

0:46:40.342 --> 0:46:41.163
starting to see with all

0:46:41.222 --> 0:46:42.764
that attrition and kind of

0:46:42.804 --> 0:46:44.664
that churn of the roster

0:46:44.684 --> 0:46:45.525
that we're seeing every

0:46:45.565 --> 0:46:47.266
year you're not getting

0:46:47.427 --> 0:46:50.509
that cohesive team that

0:46:50.548 --> 0:46:51.530
we've seen before and I

0:46:51.550 --> 0:46:53.351
think you know the rice

0:46:53.371 --> 0:46:55.052
situation is kind of a microcosm

0:46:56.092 --> 0:46:57.313
of that bigger picture is

0:46:57.353 --> 0:46:58.896
that you know if you had

0:46:59.016 --> 0:47:00.157
one guy like that they

0:47:00.177 --> 0:47:01.557
could give you those

0:47:01.639 --> 0:47:03.039
minutes that can handle the

0:47:03.079 --> 0:47:04.240
ball in those key moments

0:47:04.862 --> 0:47:05.902
that could take a three but

0:47:05.943 --> 0:47:07.023
also get his own shot if

0:47:07.043 --> 0:47:08.344
you had something like that

0:47:08.364 --> 0:47:10.186
you know this team might be

0:47:10.347 --> 0:47:11.487
you know three four five

0:47:11.527 --> 0:47:13.329
wins better and really on

0:47:13.369 --> 0:47:14.731
the on the inside instead

0:47:14.751 --> 0:47:16.072
of having to scratch and

0:47:16.092 --> 0:47:17.313
claw just to even have a chance

0:47:18.579 --> 0:47:19.119
I don't know.

0:47:19.458 --> 0:47:21.820
My co-host just said microcosm,

0:47:22.659 --> 0:47:24.221
I think is the word that he used.

0:47:24.721 --> 0:47:26.041
I don't know what the fuck that means.

0:47:26.920 --> 0:47:29.481
But I do know, Mike Young,

0:47:30.342 --> 0:47:31.603
you better go out and you

0:47:31.623 --> 0:47:32.402
better get some people who

0:47:32.422 --> 0:47:33.242
can dunk on folks.

0:47:34.143 --> 0:47:35.204
You better go out and you

0:47:35.224 --> 0:47:35.963
better get some people who

0:47:35.983 --> 0:47:37.224
can jump higher than the other team.

0:47:37.244 --> 0:47:38.925
Because we just shooting

0:47:38.945 --> 0:47:40.545
threes and it ain't happening.

0:47:41.025 --> 0:47:41.666
It ain't going to get us

0:47:41.686 --> 0:47:42.326
where we need to be.

0:47:43.557 --> 0:47:44.217
Tally, Tally,

0:47:44.237 --> 0:47:44.978
you've been nice to Mike

0:47:45.018 --> 0:47:46.960
Young the year you've been with us.

0:47:47.320 --> 0:47:49.001
And you said you'd give him a little grace,

0:47:49.041 --> 0:47:50.523
but I think the grace has

0:47:50.563 --> 0:47:51.764
slowly fallen off.

0:47:52.204 --> 0:47:53.164
I told y'all, man,

0:47:53.405 --> 0:47:55.005
him winning the ACC was

0:47:55.947 --> 0:47:57.128
like so – I guess it was

0:47:57.188 --> 0:47:58.909
big because I didn't expect it.

0:47:59.088 --> 0:48:00.190
You know, when he first got here,

0:48:00.650 --> 0:48:01.570
I was on him pretty heavy.

0:48:02.331 --> 0:48:03.331
And, you know, I said, well,

0:48:03.371 --> 0:48:04.273
I got to give him some time

0:48:04.313 --> 0:48:07.119
and I got to – but, you know –

0:48:07.119 --> 0:48:07.518
again,

0:48:08.199 --> 0:48:09.760
when you got a coach like Mike Young,

0:48:10.179 --> 0:48:10.380
you know,

0:48:10.400 --> 0:48:11.239
you got to have some people

0:48:11.280 --> 0:48:12.280
around you that can recruit

0:48:12.740 --> 0:48:13.661
and we start getting people

0:48:13.840 --> 0:48:15.601
in and then those coaches

0:48:15.621 --> 0:48:16.702
start leaving and we start

0:48:16.722 --> 0:48:17.961
getting players in because

0:48:18.001 --> 0:48:18.802
basketball is much

0:48:18.842 --> 0:48:20.902
different than football in a lot of ways.

0:48:20.943 --> 0:48:22.123
When we talk of recruiting,

0:48:22.503 --> 0:48:25.384
when we're talking, retaining people,

0:48:25.684 --> 0:48:25.963
I mean,

0:48:26.003 --> 0:48:28.965
you can really go out and get one

0:48:29.085 --> 0:48:29.925
player in,

0:48:30.206 --> 0:48:34.327
in basketball and the whole team changes.

0:48:34.347 --> 0:48:34.947
Like it, it,

0:48:36.045 --> 0:48:38.849
One player can make that

0:48:38.909 --> 0:48:44.195
team a deep run NCAA team.

0:48:45.538 --> 0:48:48.521
But if you are not getting those people,

0:48:48.581 --> 0:48:49.342
if they're not getting

0:48:49.382 --> 0:48:51.485
chances or you're not able

0:48:51.525 --> 0:48:52.106
to retain them,

0:48:53.186 --> 0:48:55.548
shit, you're not going to go deep.

0:48:56.010 --> 0:48:57.170
You know, because I was, hey, man,

0:48:57.210 --> 0:48:58.371
I don't care about the regular season.

0:48:58.391 --> 0:48:59.092
I don't care about this.

0:48:59.132 --> 0:49:00.134
We got to get to the tournament.

0:49:00.414 --> 0:49:01.956
We got to win a game in the tournament.

0:49:01.996 --> 0:49:02.237
You know,

0:49:02.257 --> 0:49:03.818
things like that is what I was saying.

0:49:03.858 --> 0:49:06.081
So I gave him a little bit of a pass,

0:49:06.121 --> 0:49:07.764
and then looking at this season,

0:49:08.284 --> 0:49:09.686
it's been kind of, you know,

0:49:09.746 --> 0:49:10.467
getting back to it,

0:49:10.487 --> 0:49:11.867
and I've been kind of quiet, but...

0:49:12.509 --> 0:49:14.329
It's starting to creep back up, man.

0:49:14.369 --> 0:49:15.769
Basketball is a different beast, man.

0:49:16.150 --> 0:49:17.269
We got to get some we got to

0:49:17.289 --> 0:49:18.411
get some athletic players.

0:49:18.891 --> 0:49:19.731
Not saying the guys on the

0:49:19.751 --> 0:49:20.771
team aren't athletic,

0:49:21.210 --> 0:49:22.952
but we're getting a lot of shooters.

0:49:23.472 --> 0:49:24.632
We're getting a lot of, you know,

0:49:25.032 --> 0:49:26.112
three and D guys.

0:49:26.672 --> 0:49:27.152
No, man,

0:49:27.172 --> 0:49:29.353
you got to get some fucking animals.

0:49:29.873 --> 0:49:30.034
Yeah,

0:49:30.213 --> 0:49:32.074
you got to get some people who are

0:49:32.474 --> 0:49:33.974
certified bucket getters.

0:49:34.474 --> 0:49:35.215
That's what we need.

0:49:36.059 --> 0:49:37.702
And if we had just been able to – I mean,

0:49:37.722 --> 0:49:38.983
I know that's a different situation,

0:49:39.023 --> 0:49:40.144
but we've already talked

0:49:40.164 --> 0:49:41.547
about Rodney Rice.

0:49:41.567 --> 0:49:42.548
If you get Rodney Rice and

0:49:42.568 --> 0:49:44.170
you're able to get somebody

0:49:44.210 --> 0:49:45.813
like Basile back on this team,

0:49:46.934 --> 0:49:50.045
that's a true –

0:49:50.045 --> 0:49:51.867
you know, top four,

0:49:51.927 --> 0:49:55.869
top three ACC team compared to, like,

0:49:56.168 --> 0:49:56.429
you know,

0:49:56.648 --> 0:49:58.489
we're kind of in that bottom

0:49:58.530 --> 0:49:59.690
half of the top ten right

0:49:59.731 --> 0:50:01.451
now and you're scratching

0:50:01.471 --> 0:50:02.771
the road further back.

0:50:03.251 --> 0:50:04.452
Even to think about, yeah,

0:50:04.512 --> 0:50:05.992
even to think about, like, Bazili.

0:50:06.534 --> 0:50:07.994
Like, he came in, you know,

0:50:08.134 --> 0:50:08.815
had a good year,

0:50:09.494 --> 0:50:10.996
and then he's never heard of him again.

0:50:11.036 --> 0:50:12.115
Like, he said, I'm fucking,

0:50:12.135 --> 0:50:13.637
I'm going to Italy or wherever he went.

0:50:14.226 --> 0:50:14.907
You know what I'm saying?

0:50:14.947 --> 0:50:17.748
Like, I don't know the money situations or,

0:50:18.409 --> 0:50:19.449
you know, how they handle it,

0:50:19.489 --> 0:50:21.952
what NIL looks like in basketball,

0:50:21.992 --> 0:50:23.353
but they got to change some

0:50:23.373 --> 0:50:24.114
things if they want to

0:50:24.153 --> 0:50:25.635
start making these runs

0:50:25.655 --> 0:50:27.396
because the old school game

0:50:27.577 --> 0:50:29.237
of any sport is gone.

0:50:30.139 --> 0:50:31.800
You just can't play the game like that.

0:50:32.201 --> 0:50:33.681
You can't coach the game like that.

0:50:33.762 --> 0:50:34.603
It's much different.

0:50:34.643 --> 0:50:35.963
So, again,

0:50:36.583 --> 0:50:37.744
I'm still giving Mike Young a

0:50:37.784 --> 0:50:40.166
little grace because of what he's done,

0:50:40.266 --> 0:50:41.889
but it's getting shot.

0:50:42.188 --> 0:50:43.110
It's getting real shot.

0:50:44.755 --> 0:50:46.215
especially now football is doing good.

0:50:46.235 --> 0:50:47.135
You want everybody to do good.

0:50:47.155 --> 0:50:48.235
Everybody needs to do good.

0:50:48.315 --> 0:50:49.356
I will say this, though.

0:50:49.416 --> 0:50:50.617
I will say this on tape.

0:50:51.117 --> 0:50:52.197
I'll fucking sacrifice

0:50:52.277 --> 0:50:55.237
basketball all day tomorrow

0:50:55.838 --> 0:50:56.938
if we can goddamn have a

0:50:56.998 --> 0:50:57.878
good football team.

0:50:58.838 --> 0:51:00.398
Give me a good football team every year.

0:51:01.039 --> 0:51:02.440
I ain't saying shit about basketball.

0:51:02.460 --> 0:51:03.320
Then let me get one of them

0:51:03.340 --> 0:51:04.699
baseball jerseys because

0:51:04.739 --> 0:51:05.701
baseball has been killing them.

0:51:05.721 --> 0:51:07.141
Fucking baseball jerseys is nice.

0:51:08.106 --> 0:51:09.706
So give me a baseball jersey.

0:51:10.146 --> 0:51:10.766
Give him a jersey, somebody.

0:51:10.786 --> 0:51:11.706
And a good football team.

0:51:11.887 --> 0:51:12.547
Shit, we good.

0:51:12.568 --> 0:51:13.427
There we go.

0:51:13.447 --> 0:51:13.947
But that said,

0:51:13.967 --> 0:51:15.088
I don't care about y'all basketball.

0:51:15.108 --> 0:51:15.989
Y'all got to do better, too.

0:51:16.469 --> 0:51:17.108
He loves you, too.

0:51:17.648 --> 0:51:17.889
Yep.

0:51:18.170 --> 0:51:18.730
Different child.

0:51:20.269 --> 0:51:20.851
Different child.

0:51:20.871 --> 0:51:22.851
All right, let's roll over to this, boys.

0:51:22.871 --> 0:51:23.791
Let's get back to football

0:51:23.831 --> 0:51:25.132
for a little while, the rest of the way.

0:51:26.211 --> 0:51:26.733
Believe it or not,

0:51:26.773 --> 0:51:27.652
y'all know what today was?

0:51:28.813 --> 0:51:29.293
What was today?

0:51:29.594 --> 0:51:30.554
Daytime signing day.

0:51:31.465 --> 0:51:32.405
Nobody didn't care about it no more.

0:51:32.425 --> 0:51:33.327
Nobody don't care anymore

0:51:33.347 --> 0:51:34.228
about it because everything

0:51:34.268 --> 0:51:34.867
happened in December.

0:51:35.168 --> 0:51:36.309
I forgot all about it.

0:51:36.349 --> 0:51:37.130
Ten years ago,

0:51:37.150 --> 0:51:38.711
I used to take off half a

0:51:38.751 --> 0:51:40.472
day to watch what was going on.

0:51:40.492 --> 0:51:40.833
For real.

0:51:41.434 --> 0:51:42.195
Not even a joke.

0:51:42.655 --> 0:51:45.077
You just take off, have the computers up,

0:51:45.117 --> 0:51:46.759
have the TV on, ESPN,

0:51:47.099 --> 0:51:48.039
have your phone there.

0:51:48.059 --> 0:51:49.081
You're trying to watch the –

0:51:53.054 --> 0:51:55.536
Texas or the facts come in,

0:51:55.836 --> 0:51:57.097
I don't even care no more.

0:51:57.518 --> 0:51:58.838
We're doing this in December.

0:51:59.219 --> 0:52:00.440
Yeah, it's all December now.

0:52:00.681 --> 0:52:01.740
They should move it back to February,

0:52:01.762 --> 0:52:01.882
though.

0:52:01.902 --> 0:52:02.501
That's my opinion.

0:52:02.521 --> 0:52:03.643
But let's talk about a few

0:52:03.682 --> 0:52:04.422
things that happened.

0:52:04.963 --> 0:52:06.065
The first that happened is

0:52:06.085 --> 0:52:07.646
we got a preferred walk-on offer.

0:52:08.045 --> 0:52:09.467
Usually that ain't a big deal, is it?

0:52:10.268 --> 0:52:10.568
Not usually.

0:52:10.608 --> 0:52:11.289
Not usually.

0:52:11.309 --> 0:52:11.728
Not usually.

0:52:12.230 --> 0:52:13.909
But then we got the name.

0:52:14.190 --> 0:52:17.010
His name is Lamar goes by LJ Booker.

0:52:17.190 --> 0:52:18.692
He is a 6'2",

0:52:18.711 --> 0:52:20.231
190-pound wide receiver right

0:52:20.251 --> 0:52:21.893
here in the RVA down at Collegiate,

0:52:22.532 --> 0:52:24.172
about three miles from my house here.

0:52:25.673 --> 0:52:27.614
He is a top 30 player in Virginia.

0:52:27.914 --> 0:52:29.235
He's a top 1,000 player.

0:52:30.014 --> 0:52:31.755
His composite is dead on there in 87.

0:52:34.867 --> 0:52:35.746
He's got offers.

0:52:36.487 --> 0:52:37.628
Duke, Rutgers.

0:52:37.827 --> 0:52:39.208
He had some interest from Penn State.

0:52:39.349 --> 0:52:40.989
He had some interest from Maryland,

0:52:41.088 --> 0:52:42.050
North Carolina.

0:52:43.329 --> 0:52:43.710
Y'all.

0:52:44.150 --> 0:52:45.090
Can we talk real quick?

0:52:45.990 --> 0:52:47.211
I hate throwing the old

0:52:47.251 --> 0:52:48.251
regime under the bus,

0:52:48.652 --> 0:52:49.552
but you know how many

0:52:49.652 --> 0:52:50.913
people we gave scholarships

0:52:50.972 --> 0:52:52.293
to outside of the top 1,000?

0:52:52.293 --> 0:52:53.393
A lot.

0:52:53.813 --> 0:52:54.355
Everybody.

0:52:54.574 --> 0:52:55.835
I love them.

0:52:56.554 --> 0:52:57.596
And we got a preferred

0:52:57.635 --> 0:52:58.916
walk-on inside the top 1,000.

0:52:58.916 --> 0:52:59.257
Yeah.

0:53:00.677 --> 0:53:02.358
Third walk-on.

0:53:03.478 --> 0:53:04.059
It's crazy.

0:53:04.418 --> 0:53:05.820
He could have went to a

0:53:05.900 --> 0:53:07.101
number of schools and got

0:53:07.181 --> 0:53:08.141
on a scholarship.

0:53:10.282 --> 0:53:11.822
We said it a few weeks ago.

0:53:11.842 --> 0:53:12.603
Somebody said it.

0:53:13.244 --> 0:53:14.123
You talk about winning the

0:53:14.164 --> 0:53:14.903
state of Virginia.

0:53:15.965 --> 0:53:17.184
This is how you do it right here.

0:53:18.606 --> 0:53:20.186
Not even a joke about it.

0:53:21.333 --> 0:53:24.135
So, I know, glad to have him.

0:53:24.496 --> 0:53:26.018
I guess he'll be joining in the spring.

0:53:26.077 --> 0:53:28.280
But wild to see L.J.

0:53:28.320 --> 0:53:28.699
Booker.

0:53:29.820 --> 0:53:30.561
I don't think Brian had a

0:53:30.581 --> 0:53:31.521
chance to get some tape on

0:53:31.541 --> 0:53:33.244
him because we've both been busy at work.

0:53:33.664 --> 0:53:35.045
But maybe try to look at

0:53:35.125 --> 0:53:36.726
something here just because.

0:53:36.887 --> 0:53:38.608
I always refer to Chris.

0:53:38.648 --> 0:53:40.148
Chris is in the comments.

0:53:40.769 --> 0:53:42.610
And, of course, y'all know, you know,

0:53:42.630 --> 0:53:45.572
that's Brody's dad, Keelan Adams' dad.

0:53:46.434 --> 0:53:47.375
Chris said he can play,

0:53:47.394 --> 0:53:48.195
which I've seen a little

0:53:48.235 --> 0:53:49.356
tape on him because we were

0:53:49.416 --> 0:53:49.856
recruiting him.

0:53:50.369 --> 0:53:51.070
During the season,

0:53:51.452 --> 0:53:52.634
and if Chris says he can

0:53:52.673 --> 0:53:53.996
play him being in Virginia,

0:53:54.856 --> 0:53:56.099
and he's watching wide

0:53:56.119 --> 0:53:57.681
receivers and he watches a lot of tape,

0:53:57.780 --> 0:53:58.722
I'll take his word for it.

0:54:00.014 --> 0:54:02.836
We know he's watching wide receiver tape.

0:54:03.898 --> 0:54:04.418
By the way,

0:54:04.958 --> 0:54:06.079
Robbie going to throw a joke on

0:54:06.119 --> 0:54:06.880
here at you, Tally.

0:54:07.519 --> 0:54:08.920
Say you need to get a wrestling singlet.

0:54:10.021 --> 0:54:10.521
You know what?

0:54:10.702 --> 0:54:11.061
Actually,

0:54:11.081 --> 0:54:11.882
we're going to do a little

0:54:11.902 --> 0:54:13.184
talking on some wrestling.

0:54:13.583 --> 0:54:14.885
I got somebody we're going to bring on.

0:54:14.925 --> 0:54:15.525
We're going to do a little

0:54:15.545 --> 0:54:16.286
talking on some wrestling

0:54:16.306 --> 0:54:17.485
because I don't know about wrestling,

0:54:17.766 --> 0:54:18.487
but I want to know.

0:54:19.086 --> 0:54:19.927
I want us to win.

0:54:20.128 --> 0:54:21.429
If we can get some wins in wrestling,

0:54:21.489 --> 0:54:21.929
I'll take it.

0:54:22.509 --> 0:54:24.510
We're going to save that for another time,

0:54:24.550 --> 0:54:25.670
but we're going to talk about wrestling.

0:54:25.751 --> 0:54:26.472
That's a teaser.

0:54:26.871 --> 0:54:28.373
That's a teaser about a month from now.

0:54:28.632 --> 0:54:29.172
Pay attention.

0:54:29.333 --> 0:54:29.833
Pay attention.

0:54:29.853 --> 0:54:31.653
All right, so let's go real quick.

0:54:31.793 --> 0:54:33.355
Where did we end up as a class?

0:54:33.454 --> 0:54:37.036
So, I mean, the numbers don't look great.

0:54:37.056 --> 0:54:37.135
45 and 57.

0:54:37.856 --> 0:54:38.916
Can I go on a tangent right

0:54:38.936 --> 0:54:40.478
quick before you even talk numbers?

0:54:40.958 --> 0:54:41.197
Go for it.

0:54:41.257 --> 0:54:42.239
Let me say this right quick.

0:54:42.259 --> 0:54:42.559
Hold on.

0:54:43.478 --> 0:54:44.679
I want to put my glasses on.

0:54:45.019 --> 0:54:45.380
Oh, man.

0:54:45.400 --> 0:54:46.019
Before I talk.

0:54:46.320 --> 0:54:47.260
He getting serious here.

0:54:47.840 --> 0:54:49.262
We're going to have Mateo on

0:54:49.302 --> 0:54:50.942
here a little bit later on, right?

0:54:51.543 --> 0:54:51.802
Oh, yeah.

0:54:51.822 --> 0:54:52.302
About a month.

0:54:52.623 --> 0:54:53.382
We love you, Mateo.

0:54:53.402 --> 0:54:54.483
A little less than a month from now.

0:54:55.083 --> 0:54:56.643
We love you, Matej, but close your ears.

0:54:57.905 --> 0:54:59.565
That fucking ranking system, man,

0:54:59.606 --> 0:55:00.286
has got to go.

0:55:01.206 --> 0:55:03.489
It's on my fucking nerves.

0:55:03.509 --> 0:55:04.710
They lie.

0:55:07.210 --> 0:55:08.851
I went to a basketball game the other day,

0:55:08.891 --> 0:55:11.753
and we got a kid that was here in school,

0:55:12.375 --> 0:55:13.635
went to the high school my

0:55:13.655 --> 0:55:14.356
son will go to.

0:55:15.097 --> 0:55:17.737
And his dad, he plays down at UAB now.

0:55:17.757 --> 0:55:18.878
He's a sophomore at UAB.

0:55:19.400 --> 0:55:21.420
And he probably was the best kid ever.

0:55:22.657 --> 0:55:22.757
uh,

0:55:23.119 --> 0:55:24.260
he was probably the best kid in

0:55:24.300 --> 0:55:24.940
Huntsville when he

0:55:24.980 --> 0:55:26.161
graduated two years ago,

0:55:26.541 --> 0:55:27.762
but he definitely was, you know,

0:55:28.143 --> 0:55:29.344
one of the top players in

0:55:29.684 --> 0:55:33.467
Alabama and the ranking system, man,

0:55:33.547 --> 0:55:34.748
is just so screwed up.

0:55:34.809 --> 0:55:35.630
And he talked to be,

0:55:36.070 --> 0:55:37.751
he gave me like maybe a 30

0:55:37.751 --> 0:55:39.873
minute rundown of how you

0:55:39.893 --> 0:55:41.856
get your kid ranked the highest.

0:55:42.637 --> 0:55:43.797
And it's all bullshit.

0:55:43.898 --> 0:55:46.280
It's just going to the right camp and

0:55:46.994 --> 0:55:48.775
kissing the right ass and

0:55:48.815 --> 0:55:50.155
fucking rubbing the right feet.

0:55:50.255 --> 0:55:51.655
Man, if a kid can play,

0:55:52.096 --> 0:55:53.177
fucking let him play.

0:55:53.597 --> 0:55:55.657
That is so much bull crap to

0:55:55.797 --> 0:55:59.298
take somebody's star or, you know, oh,

0:55:59.739 --> 0:56:00.739
he ain't as tall as this

0:56:00.780 --> 0:56:01.820
guy or he ain't as big as

0:56:01.840 --> 0:56:03.001
this or his competition.

0:56:03.041 --> 0:56:03.581
Like if he's

0:56:04.608 --> 0:56:05.487
If you're setting records

0:56:05.547 --> 0:56:07.809
and you're playing in decent competition,

0:56:08.309 --> 0:56:08.889
you know what I'm saying?

0:56:08.909 --> 0:56:10.431
And I understand you got to do some camps.

0:56:10.871 --> 0:56:12.072
But it's all about just

0:56:12.132 --> 0:56:14.652
gaining more money and more

0:56:14.693 --> 0:56:15.833
subscriptions and more of

0:56:15.873 --> 0:56:17.233
this instead of actually

0:56:17.273 --> 0:56:18.414
watching what these kids do.

0:56:18.894 --> 0:56:20.675
And again, we say it all the time.

0:56:21.536 --> 0:56:22.836
Somebody commits somewhere,

0:56:23.516 --> 0:56:24.737
they're messing with some rankings.

0:56:25.097 --> 0:56:25.257
Yep.

0:56:25.958 --> 0:56:26.719
Either way it goes.

0:56:27.405 --> 0:56:28.728
You commit to Alabama, you're 90.

0:56:29.407 --> 0:56:31.010
You commit to Virginia Tech, what are you?

0:56:31.409 --> 0:56:32.331
Brian, what number are you?

0:56:32.351 --> 0:56:32.331
87.

0:56:32.652 --> 0:56:32.331
86.

0:56:32.672 --> 0:56:36.516
87.

0:56:32.711 --> 0:56:36.516
They done moved us up a little bit.

0:56:37.217 --> 0:56:39.518
I mean, dude, it's just ridiculous, man,

0:56:39.539 --> 0:56:40.480
when you start thinking

0:56:40.500 --> 0:56:42.583
about how they do these rankings.

0:56:42.882 --> 0:56:45.306
And we'll come back to it maybe next week.

0:56:46.277 --> 0:56:47.358
Because we got some stuff in

0:56:47.378 --> 0:56:49.240
the works and we want to let it play out.

0:56:49.541 --> 0:56:49.942
Yeah, we do.

0:56:49.961 --> 0:56:51.163
But if some of these kids, I'm like,

0:56:51.483 --> 0:56:52.625
how does he have no ranking?

0:56:53.085 --> 0:56:54.407
How does he have that ranking?

0:56:54.987 --> 0:56:56.170
He's better than this guy.

0:56:56.210 --> 0:56:58.233
He beat this guy or he locked it.

0:56:58.693 --> 0:57:00.114
Anyway, Curtis, go ahead.

0:57:00.516 --> 0:57:02.077
We got, you know.

0:57:03.311 --> 0:57:04.231
we've been talking about

0:57:04.271 --> 0:57:05.813
that for a while now and I

0:57:05.833 --> 0:57:07.112
mean robbie we had him on

0:57:07.172 --> 0:57:08.034
one time we talked to him

0:57:08.074 --> 0:57:10.454
about all the camps um and

0:57:11.114 --> 0:57:12.155
you know when he was doing

0:57:12.195 --> 0:57:13.536
evaluations at the camps

0:57:13.576 --> 0:57:14.556
and things like that and

0:57:14.996 --> 0:57:16.056
you know he backed up a lot

0:57:16.077 --> 0:57:17.617
of what you just said um in

0:57:17.637 --> 0:57:20.277
a lot of ways um so it's

0:57:20.318 --> 0:57:21.518
funny circling back like that

0:57:28.391 --> 0:57:29.251
Oh, that was good, Jim.

0:57:29.271 --> 0:57:30.512
That was good.

0:57:30.773 --> 0:57:34.856
So where we are as far as nationally goes,

0:57:34.916 --> 0:57:37.358
if you look at just the raw number data,

0:57:37.378 --> 0:57:38.079
we didn't do good.

0:57:38.659 --> 0:57:41.481
45 and 57, like 10th in the ACC.

0:57:42.682 --> 0:57:43.963
But that ain't the important

0:57:44.003 --> 0:57:44.744
part right now.

0:57:45.505 --> 0:57:45.605
Mm-mm.

0:57:45.987 --> 0:57:47.608
Because the important part

0:57:48.230 --> 0:57:49.351
is where we rank both

0:57:49.492 --> 0:57:51.355
nationally and in the ACC

0:57:51.375 --> 0:57:52.215
when it comes to the

0:57:52.356 --> 0:57:53.338
average of the player.

0:57:53.797 --> 0:57:55.501
We only took 16 players.

0:57:55.960 --> 0:57:57.463
There are not a lot of teams

0:57:57.503 --> 0:57:58.664
in the country that took

0:57:58.846 --> 0:58:01.088
that little of a player this year.

0:58:01.532 --> 0:58:02.893
Most of them are 20 to 22.

0:58:03.235 --> 0:58:04.155
That's your average.

0:58:04.175 --> 0:58:05.135
Most of them are 22.

0:58:05.175 --> 0:58:05.777
We're way down at 16.

0:58:06.757 --> 0:58:07.798
So you start looking at the

0:58:07.898 --> 0:58:09.920
actual average is where it gets key.

0:58:10.380 --> 0:58:11.561
Y'all know we rank average

0:58:11.621 --> 0:58:12.983
player-wise because we got

0:58:13.003 --> 0:58:13.864
some players that got some

0:58:13.884 --> 0:58:15.525
bumps because I think Tally

0:58:15.545 --> 0:58:17.668
had some influence somehow on 247.

0:58:17.668 --> 0:58:19.550
Players got built up to four stars.

0:58:19.829 --> 0:58:22.271
Guys got to be borderline.

0:58:22.311 --> 0:58:23.672
Next thing we know, we don't talk,

0:58:23.733 --> 0:58:24.414
and next thing we know,

0:58:24.474 --> 0:58:25.514
four guys get bumped up.

0:58:25.914 --> 0:58:26.195
Y'all.

0:58:26.876 --> 0:58:28.478
We are 28th in the country

0:58:28.717 --> 0:58:30.278
as far as average player goes,

0:58:30.358 --> 0:58:31.619
fourth in the ACC.

0:58:32.440 --> 0:58:33.342
Over the 88,

0:58:33.342 --> 0:58:34.762
which that's Brian's magic number.

0:58:34.802 --> 0:58:36.443
He's told you all for the last four years.

0:58:36.945 --> 0:58:38.425
He's been preaching that for years,

0:58:38.485 --> 0:58:38.726
though.

0:58:38.867 --> 0:58:40.768
He's been preaching that for years.

0:58:41.409 --> 0:58:43.831
So, you know, you sit here and you wonder,

0:58:44.271 --> 0:58:45.711
and y'all know we got Sheldon.

0:58:46.132 --> 0:58:47.614
Sheldon's got all sorts of

0:58:47.653 --> 0:58:48.474
things he looks at,

0:58:48.514 --> 0:58:50.215
things that interest him and pique him.

0:58:50.916 --> 0:58:51.958
But I wanted to know,

0:58:52.938 --> 0:58:54.719
all right, where are the playoff teams at?

0:58:54.760 --> 0:58:55.940
Like, where are their rankings?

0:58:55.960 --> 0:58:56.882
I don't think Sheldon got

0:58:56.922 --> 0:58:59.344
the rankings like the number average,

0:58:59.985 --> 0:59:00.965
but he did get some

0:59:01.126 --> 0:59:02.266
interesting information

0:59:02.367 --> 0:59:03.347
both on the teams that play

0:59:03.387 --> 0:59:04.688
for the national title and

0:59:04.728 --> 0:59:06.010
then a run of the New

0:59:06.030 --> 0:59:07.911
Year's six teams excluding G5.

0:59:07.972 --> 0:59:08.572
So, Brian,

0:59:09.072 --> 0:59:11.335
press that because this is about

0:59:11.394 --> 0:59:11.956
five minutes.

0:59:12.016 --> 0:59:12.896
Everybody hold with us.

0:59:13.617 --> 0:59:15.878
We'll come back because this

0:59:15.958 --> 0:59:16.880
is some good stuff right here.

0:59:19.715 --> 0:59:21.297
it to some of the ranks for

0:59:21.317 --> 0:59:22.418
the teams that are making

0:59:22.458 --> 0:59:23.498
the playoffs consistently

0:59:23.518 --> 0:59:24.320
that are making those New

0:59:24.340 --> 0:59:25.159
Year's Six Bowls.

0:59:25.219 --> 0:59:26.942
So let's focus first on

0:59:27.041 --> 0:59:28.262
Washington and Michigan.

0:59:29.302 --> 0:59:29.523
Sheldon,

0:59:29.543 --> 0:59:30.463
I know you've kind of crunched the

0:59:30.503 --> 0:59:31.045
numbers there.

0:59:31.425 --> 0:59:32.465
What are the average player

0:59:32.505 --> 0:59:34.106
rankings per 247 and kind

0:59:34.126 --> 0:59:35.367
of what is that telling you?

0:59:36.708 --> 0:59:36.989
Sure.

0:59:37.009 --> 0:59:38.070
So I went back the last four

0:59:38.090 --> 0:59:39.411
years and took the average

0:59:39.471 --> 0:59:42.253
player ranking for each

0:59:42.333 --> 0:59:44.114
team's class in a season.

0:59:44.744 --> 0:59:45.585
And so for Michigan,

0:59:45.925 --> 0:59:47.206
it averaged out to about 15th.

0:59:47.266 --> 0:59:48.266
That's typically where they've been.

0:59:48.766 --> 0:59:49.788
And that's not far off from

0:59:49.807 --> 0:59:51.027
their composite ranking also.

0:59:51.469 --> 0:59:52.248
For Washington, it was 26.

0:59:53.550 --> 0:59:54.831
So it's sort of a tale of

0:59:54.851 --> 0:59:55.612
two different teams.

0:59:55.711 --> 0:59:56.532
I think for Michigan,

0:59:56.552 --> 0:59:58.693
one of the things that I've

0:59:58.733 --> 0:59:59.494
noticed over the past four

0:59:59.514 --> 1:00:00.474
or five years is that

1:00:00.574 --> 1:00:01.416
recruiting rankings aren't

1:00:01.536 --> 1:00:02.617
quite as predictive of

1:00:02.657 --> 1:00:03.938
success as they used to be.

1:00:04.697 --> 1:00:06.059
And the biggest reason, in my opinion,

1:00:06.199 --> 1:00:07.940
is a combination of, of course,

1:00:07.960 --> 1:00:09.041
the COVID year.

1:00:09.121 --> 1:00:10.121
So the fifth year from COVID.

1:00:10.851 --> 1:00:11.851
And how that impacted high

1:00:11.871 --> 1:00:12.612
school evaluations,

1:00:12.731 --> 1:00:13.552
as well as players coming

1:00:13.612 --> 1:00:15.193
up using that extra year.

1:00:16.215 --> 1:00:16.974
And the transfer portal,

1:00:17.074 --> 1:00:17.775
because guys are just

1:00:17.815 --> 1:00:18.516
moving all over the place

1:00:18.615 --> 1:00:19.476
and you don't have time to

1:00:19.536 --> 1:00:21.057
develop guys like you used to.

1:00:22.219 --> 1:00:24.320
So because of that,

1:00:24.420 --> 1:00:25.019
I think what we've seen

1:00:25.039 --> 1:00:25.641
over the past couple of

1:00:25.661 --> 1:00:26.762
years is that a lot of

1:00:26.782 --> 1:00:29.023
teams like Michigan, TCU, Washington,

1:00:29.043 --> 1:00:30.503
who maybe don't have elite

1:00:30.543 --> 1:00:31.164
recruiting rankings,

1:00:31.445 --> 1:00:32.425
find themselves playing for

1:00:32.445 --> 1:00:33.106
a national title.

1:00:33.925 --> 1:00:35.387
I think Michigan and John

1:00:35.427 --> 1:00:36.268
Harbor staff has done a

1:00:36.327 --> 1:00:37.588
great job of developing

1:00:37.648 --> 1:00:39.409
players and hitting on those evaluations.

1:00:39.929 --> 1:00:40.550
For Washington,

1:00:40.670 --> 1:00:41.692
I think they were a team that was,

1:00:42.132 --> 1:00:42.371
you know,

1:00:42.411 --> 1:00:44.393
not to take away from their

1:00:44.474 --> 1:00:45.855
overall offense and defense,

1:00:45.894 --> 1:00:46.936
but I think they were a

1:00:46.956 --> 1:00:47.817
team that was very reliant

1:00:47.856 --> 1:00:49.018
on Michael Penix, a quarterback.

1:00:49.657 --> 1:00:50.378
And we look at some of the

1:00:50.398 --> 1:00:51.059
advanced metrics,

1:00:51.099 --> 1:00:51.960
they weren't quite as high

1:00:52.000 --> 1:00:52.760
on the Huskies this year

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just because they won a ton

1:00:53.641 --> 1:00:54.181
of close games.

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And generally speaking,

1:00:55.302 --> 1:00:56.423
winning close games at that

1:00:56.483 --> 1:00:57.445
rate is not sustainable.

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But the bottom line is, you know,

1:01:00.367 --> 1:01:01.688
these are two great

1:01:01.708 --> 1:01:03.969
examples of where good player development

1:01:04.474 --> 1:01:05.534
player development will get you.

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Um, so, you know, I think, I think, uh,

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looking at Michigan and Washington, it is,

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uh, it is sort of a case of, you know, um,

1:01:13.155 --> 1:01:13.795
just because you don't have,

1:01:13.835 --> 1:01:15.655
you don't recruit in the top 10 or top 15,

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uh,

1:01:16.235 --> 1:01:17.596
it doesn't necessarily mean you can't

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play for national title

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because those two teams

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absolutely earned it.

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And, uh, they,

1:01:21.536 --> 1:01:23.097
they did a great job developing players.

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So in the case of Washington,

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kind of a combination of

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being a really good

1:01:27.297 --> 1:01:29.617
development program and hitting the,

1:01:29.998 --> 1:01:30.958
hitting it at the park with

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the most important player on the field.

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Yes,

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and I think that's the one thing that

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makes evaluating recruiting

1:01:36.034 --> 1:01:37.456
rankings difficult is because

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The quarterback position, as we all know,

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has such an outsized

1:01:41.284 --> 1:01:42.003
influence in the game.

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So it really,

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I think it's less a case of maybe,

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you know, getting, you know,

1:01:46.605 --> 1:01:48.164
85 scholarship guys out of

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nowhere and more so just, you know,

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you recruit three stars,

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you got to develop them,

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but you have to hit on that

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right quarterback.

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If you don't have the

1:01:55.505 --> 1:01:57.326
quarterback who can make all those throws,

1:01:57.365 --> 1:01:58.726
make all those plays, you know,

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you're not going to be at that level.

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That's just reality.

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And obviously, you know,

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Washington benefited

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usually from having a stud

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arm like Michael Penix.

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Yeah, it seems like for Michigan,

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it seems more like they

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were recruiting kind of in

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that higher average range

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that you see with some of

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the other blue chip programs,

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but they have a hit rate

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that's kind of out of the park.

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They're doing well developmentally,

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but if they're bringing in

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four and five star caliber players,

1:02:25.128 --> 1:02:26.128
you're seeing those players

1:02:26.568 --> 1:02:27.630
get on the field quickly

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and make an impact pretty quick.

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Yes, exactly.

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And I think, honestly,

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if you ask Michigan fans,

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they might say that, you know,

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the star rankings were not

1:02:35.851 --> 1:02:36.692
an accurate reflection of

1:02:36.751 --> 1:02:37.512
how talented they were.

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And I think you can make a

1:02:38.652 --> 1:02:39.452
pretty good argument for

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that just based on, you know,

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their play on the field.

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But I think Michigan is sort

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of a team like Clemson,

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those title teams under Dabo Sweeney,

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where they're sort of on

1:02:49.275 --> 1:02:50.297
that cusp of where

1:02:50.356 --> 1:02:51.137
typically you expect

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national title teams to be,

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kind of on that lower edge

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where you sort of need to get into that,

1:02:54.878 --> 1:02:56.298
you know, cool kids club, so to speak.

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But bottom line, Michigan,

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they've just done a great

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job of evaluating high

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school prospects and bringing them up.

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And I was listening to Joel

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Klatt's podcast the other day.

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He was talking about the

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importance of their

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strength coach as well.

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So all those factors kind of

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lead into Michigan's success.

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And I think there was

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certainly nothing fluky about it.

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Very good.

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Very good.

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And now let's let's take a

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look a little broader here.

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Let's look at average player

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rankings for kind of those

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New Year's six teams over

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kind of the last three or five years.

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Are those kind of landing in

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that 10 to 15 range of the

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the Michigan's or are they

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lower end with with the

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Washington's or the TCU's

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or most of those kind of

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landing in that top eight

1:03:39.150 --> 1:03:40.110
spot where you see those

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perennial powerhouses from

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the blue blood programs?

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So it's a little bit closer

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to being blue blood.

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For this analysis,

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I decided to exclude group

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of five teams just because

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it kind of messes with the

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numbers a little bit.

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And obviously,

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group of five teams are

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entitled to one of the

1:03:54.782 --> 1:03:55.882
spots in the New Year's Six,

1:03:55.902 --> 1:03:56.443
but that doesn't

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necessarily mean they're

1:03:57.983 --> 1:03:59.445
always as talented as those

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Power Five teams.

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So when I average out the

1:04:01.465 --> 1:04:02.327
player rankings for those

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teams that made the New Year's Six Bowls,

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I went back over the last

1:04:04.527 --> 1:04:06.168
five years and the average

1:04:06.208 --> 1:04:06.969
ranking was around 17th.

1:04:08.030 --> 1:04:09.210
That's pretty consistent

1:04:09.251 --> 1:04:10.692
across different metrics,

1:04:10.731 --> 1:04:11.452
which you can look at,

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but 17th is pretty much the standard.

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Obviously,

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there's going to be some

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outliers like UVA in 2019

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when they went to the Orange Bowl.

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They won the Coastal Division,

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but they were a five-loss team.

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Obviously,

1:04:24.943 --> 1:04:25.764
that can throw a wrench into

1:04:25.804 --> 1:04:26.326
things because

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you know,

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there are certain conferences

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where you're guaranteed

1:04:29.086 --> 1:04:29.907
those bowl tie-ins.

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And so if you may be luck

1:04:31.728 --> 1:04:32.447
into playing in a bad

1:04:32.467 --> 1:04:34.268
division or you win a bunch

1:04:34.289 --> 1:04:34.869
of close games,

1:04:35.188 --> 1:04:36.168
you can find yourself in

1:04:36.210 --> 1:04:37.590
one of those spots, even if you weren't,

1:04:37.909 --> 1:04:39.911
you know, necessarily a quote unquote,

1:04:39.951 --> 1:04:41.070
one of the most talented teams,

1:04:41.510 --> 1:04:42.552
you can sort of find yourself in there.

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But generally speaking, yes,

1:04:43.692 --> 1:04:44.932
I would say that you want

1:04:44.952 --> 1:04:46.612
to be in that top 15 to 20

1:04:46.612 --> 1:04:47.833
range is ideal for making

1:04:47.853 --> 1:04:48.673
those New York six balls,

1:04:48.713 --> 1:04:50.635
because the reality is you've got to win,

1:04:51.034 --> 1:04:51.545
you know, 10,

1:04:51.545 --> 1:04:53.135
11 games in a power pop

1:04:53.175 --> 1:04:53.976
conference to get there.

1:04:54.356 --> 1:04:54.876
And that's a,

1:04:54.956 --> 1:04:55.757
that's a lot more difficult

1:04:55.777 --> 1:04:56.277
than people think.

1:04:56.581 --> 1:04:57.161
people realize.

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Yeah,

1:04:59.847 --> 1:05:01.710
so you're saying about 17 is kind of

1:05:01.730 --> 1:05:04.394
the average there across all those teams.

1:05:06.038 --> 1:05:07.219
You know, looking at it, you

1:05:08.362 --> 1:05:09.641
That kind of trends with

1:05:09.681 --> 1:05:10.983
kind of what we expected, I think,

1:05:11.043 --> 1:05:12.182
because as you said,

1:05:12.202 --> 1:05:13.923
you've got those teams that

1:05:13.943 --> 1:05:16.125
are on the lower end that

1:05:16.385 --> 1:05:17.425
have those four or five

1:05:17.485 --> 1:05:19.686
losses that they're playing in that game.

1:05:20.246 --> 1:05:21.746
But when we look at the

1:05:21.766 --> 1:05:22.766
college football playoff,

1:05:23.487 --> 1:05:24.648
with the exception of kind

1:05:24.688 --> 1:05:27.309
of Washington's or a TCU here or there,

1:05:27.329 --> 1:05:28.768
you kind of get the usual

1:05:28.829 --> 1:05:29.829
suspects every year.

1:05:29.869 --> 1:05:30.610
And that's going to

1:05:30.650 --> 1:05:31.429
definitely trend in the

1:05:31.469 --> 1:05:34.231
favor of the Blue Bloods for sure.

1:05:35.563 --> 1:05:35.782
Yeah,

1:05:35.862 --> 1:05:37.385
and one thing I would stress is that

1:05:37.505 --> 1:05:38.666
I think people sometimes

1:05:38.726 --> 1:05:40.387
conflate talent at the very

1:05:40.447 --> 1:05:41.869
top with sort of being

1:05:41.969 --> 1:05:43.869
applicable to all the other teams.

1:05:43.929 --> 1:05:46.472
For instance, obviously teams like Alabama,

1:05:46.833 --> 1:05:50.135
Georgia, Florida State, Clemson, whoever,

1:05:50.335 --> 1:05:52.057
they recruit very well every single year.

1:05:52.538 --> 1:05:53.719
and they're able to you know

1:05:53.798 --> 1:05:54.639
replace those players

1:05:54.679 --> 1:05:55.400
because they recruit so

1:05:55.420 --> 1:05:56.940
well and sustain success

1:05:57.440 --> 1:05:58.601
for teams in the middle or

1:05:58.661 --> 1:05:59.782
even in that upper tier I

1:05:59.822 --> 1:06:00.621
would say once you get

1:06:00.641 --> 1:06:02.063
outside the top 10 it

1:06:02.103 --> 1:06:02.764
becomes much more of a

1:06:02.804 --> 1:06:04.284
question of you know can

1:06:04.324 --> 1:06:05.344
you evaluate guys I don't

1:06:05.364 --> 1:06:06.005
think there's any

1:06:06.125 --> 1:06:07.385
necessarily a specific

1:06:07.445 --> 1:06:09.367
barometer for for team

1:06:09.387 --> 1:06:10.608
success in that sense once

1:06:10.668 --> 1:06:11.447
you sort of get into that

1:06:11.487 --> 1:06:12.849
more middle tier range uh

1:06:13.768 --> 1:06:14.789
but clearly you know

1:06:14.889 --> 1:06:16.331
recruiting the top 10 top

1:06:16.331 --> 1:06:17.431
12 level is going to help

1:06:17.471 --> 1:06:18.431
you a lot and I think for

1:06:18.972 --> 1:06:19.152
you know,

1:06:19.172 --> 1:06:20.913
for an average program like Virginia Tech,

1:06:20.932 --> 1:06:22.373
you know, it's a question of, you know,

1:06:22.413 --> 1:06:23.552
can we recruit maybe in

1:06:23.572 --> 1:06:24.753
that 25 to 30 range?

1:06:25.373 --> 1:06:27.534
And with good player development,

1:06:27.954 --> 1:06:29.434
we can sort of be in, you know,

1:06:29.534 --> 1:06:30.514
that sort of,

1:06:30.534 --> 1:06:32.396
I don't know what you might say,

1:06:32.476 --> 1:06:33.815
standard deviation of, you know,

1:06:33.856 --> 1:06:34.556
just being right on that

1:06:34.597 --> 1:06:35.757
outside edge of where you

1:06:35.777 --> 1:06:36.737
would expect a New York Six

1:06:36.757 --> 1:06:38.318
team to be based on recruiting rankings.

1:06:39.057 --> 1:06:41.478
And I think it's, you know,

1:06:41.559 --> 1:06:42.478
it's a case study in just

1:06:42.518 --> 1:06:44.639
how numbers can sometimes be flawed.

1:06:44.659 --> 1:06:45.300
But generally speaking,

1:06:45.320 --> 1:06:46.139
when you average it out,

1:06:46.925 --> 1:06:47.387
Generally,

1:06:47.407 --> 1:06:48.947
the recruiting ranks are going

1:06:48.987 --> 1:06:49.688
to win out in the end,

1:06:50.009 --> 1:06:51.710
and that 17 to 20 range is

1:06:51.769 --> 1:06:52.990
ideal for most teams there.

1:06:54.353 --> 1:06:57.034
Yeah, and you talk about the Hokies there.

1:06:57.074 --> 1:06:57.996
If you pull in,

1:06:58.016 --> 1:07:00.757
you bump your recruiting up

1:07:00.797 --> 1:07:02.318
a little bit as we're

1:07:02.378 --> 1:07:03.260
starting to see those

1:07:03.340 --> 1:07:04.862
trends come into play,

1:07:05.702 --> 1:07:07.764
and you get the right

1:07:07.824 --> 1:07:08.644
player at the right

1:07:08.704 --> 1:07:09.786
position when we're talking

1:07:09.806 --> 1:07:10.666
about a quarterback, and

1:07:11.246 --> 1:07:12.108
and you get a right

1:07:12.168 --> 1:07:13.728
combination of that development,

1:07:14.170 --> 1:07:14.989
that's when you kind of get

1:07:15.030 --> 1:07:16.211
into that conversation.

1:07:16.271 --> 1:07:19.675
And I think collectively here,

1:07:19.715 --> 1:07:21.576
we're hoping that maybe

1:07:21.596 --> 1:07:22.998
that right combination is

1:07:23.018 --> 1:07:24.219
going to hit out for us

1:07:24.259 --> 1:07:27.822
this year heading into 2024

1:07:27.822 --> 1:07:29.704
with the returning talent that we have.

1:07:29.724 --> 1:07:31.465
I know we've been looking

1:07:31.525 --> 1:07:33.586
out there and we've seen the –

1:07:33.586 --> 1:07:34.847
percentage of returning

1:07:34.907 --> 1:07:36.148
talent for the Hokies is

1:07:36.268 --> 1:07:37.190
number one in the nation

1:07:37.230 --> 1:07:38.710
right now so that that

1:07:38.911 --> 1:07:40.813
bodes well I feel like for

1:07:41.253 --> 1:07:42.353
having that continuity

1:07:42.393 --> 1:07:43.494
having the development that

1:07:43.534 --> 1:07:44.295
you're talking about and

1:07:44.335 --> 1:07:45.657
hopefully having the the

1:07:45.717 --> 1:07:46.777
right pieces at the key

1:07:46.818 --> 1:07:47.878
positions to kind of put us

1:07:47.938 --> 1:07:50.061
over the top yep and the

1:07:50.101 --> 1:07:51.141
biggest thing is you know

1:07:51.302 --> 1:07:52.322
it's important sometimes

1:07:52.382 --> 1:07:53.824
not to get too too caught

1:07:53.884 --> 1:07:55.125
up in the in the star rankings

1:07:56.034 --> 1:07:57.275
The biggest indicator of how

1:07:57.375 --> 1:07:58.456
good a team is going to be

1:07:58.675 --> 1:07:59.695
in one year is how good

1:07:59.715 --> 1:08:00.615
they were the previous season.

1:08:00.655 --> 1:08:01.737
So you look at Tech,

1:08:02.297 --> 1:08:03.757
they had a great end to last season.

1:08:03.777 --> 1:08:04.717
They won seven games.

1:08:05.318 --> 1:08:05.858
But, you know,

1:08:05.878 --> 1:08:07.378
you look at their results

1:08:07.398 --> 1:08:08.179
against conference teams.

1:08:08.259 --> 1:08:08.458
I mean,

1:08:08.478 --> 1:08:09.778
they just blew the competition out

1:08:09.798 --> 1:08:10.199
of the water.

1:08:10.619 --> 1:08:12.119
And I think that that bodes very well for,

1:08:12.139 --> 1:08:12.579
you know,

1:08:12.619 --> 1:08:13.300
how they're going to be next

1:08:13.320 --> 1:08:13.960
season with a pretty

1:08:14.019 --> 1:08:15.440
similar strength of schedule overall.

1:08:15.460 --> 1:08:16.740
You combine that, of course,

1:08:16.780 --> 1:08:17.740
with the returning production,

1:08:17.780 --> 1:08:18.462
number one in the country,

1:08:18.502 --> 1:08:19.942
according to Bill Connolly of ESPN.

1:08:20.612 --> 1:08:22.233
I think it's going to set up

1:08:22.273 --> 1:08:22.912
for a really good team.

1:08:22.972 --> 1:08:23.653
So in this case,

1:08:23.752 --> 1:08:25.314
I don't think that tech

1:08:25.354 --> 1:08:26.394
fans should get too caught

1:08:26.453 --> 1:08:27.354
up in the recruiting rankings.

1:08:27.414 --> 1:08:28.975
I think we saw the body of

1:08:29.015 --> 1:08:30.036
work from the team last year.

1:08:30.475 --> 1:08:31.976
We see how many players are returning,

1:08:32.317 --> 1:08:33.176
and those two factors are

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the most important

1:08:33.797 --> 1:08:34.618
ultimately in determining

1:08:34.658 --> 1:08:36.279
how successful they'll be next season.

1:08:39.039 --> 1:08:39.859
Good stuff there from

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Shelton all the way across.

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But I throw this number out

1:08:42.560 --> 1:08:43.622
because it's the one that

1:08:44.162 --> 1:08:45.402
when I listened to it earlier today,

1:08:45.442 --> 1:08:47.694
Brian called me, you're 17.

1:08:47.694 --> 1:08:49.055
The average team that got in

1:08:49.074 --> 1:08:51.496
the New Year's Six is 17.

1:08:51.496 --> 1:08:53.237
We're going to 12 teams in a playoff,

1:08:54.118 --> 1:08:54.318
right?

1:08:54.337 --> 1:08:55.078
Yep.

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That's why I asked about the

1:08:56.259 --> 1:08:57.198
New Year's Six because you

1:08:57.219 --> 1:08:58.260
look at the New Year's Six,

1:08:58.319 --> 1:08:59.761
normally you're going to

1:08:59.820 --> 1:09:01.981
have the best 12 teams are

1:09:02.021 --> 1:09:04.203
in those games.

1:09:04.222 --> 1:09:04.203
17.

1:09:04.884 --> 1:09:05.144
We're at 28.

1:09:05.344 --> 1:09:07.104
And you can say what you

1:09:07.145 --> 1:09:09.305
want as far as talent index goes.

1:09:09.987 --> 1:09:11.787
What this staff has done in the portal –

1:09:13.015 --> 1:09:14.355
both this year and last year,

1:09:14.837 --> 1:09:15.476
what they've done in

1:09:15.516 --> 1:09:17.198
recruiting the last few years,

1:09:18.100 --> 1:09:19.201
it's trending that way.

1:09:20.021 --> 1:09:22.404
It's trending that way to that 17 number.

1:09:23.005 --> 1:09:24.126
And like Kyron said,

1:09:24.405 --> 1:09:25.367
Kyron said it just a little

1:09:25.386 --> 1:09:26.068
while ago here,

1:09:26.568 --> 1:09:28.170
it's a 12-team playoff this year.

1:09:28.890 --> 1:09:30.351
It's a 12-team playoff.

1:09:30.751 --> 1:09:31.692
I love the players are

1:09:31.712 --> 1:09:32.391
talking about it too.

1:09:32.431 --> 1:09:34.113
They understand the stakes

1:09:34.412 --> 1:09:35.493
and the changes and how

1:09:35.514 --> 1:09:37.314
that impacts their

1:09:37.373 --> 1:09:38.975
visibility in this whole

1:09:39.015 --> 1:09:39.735
thing because it's what

1:09:39.775 --> 1:09:40.855
we've been talking about.

1:09:41.697 --> 1:09:43.377
Getting a seat at the table matters.

1:09:43.877 --> 1:09:44.837
Getting a seat at the table

1:09:44.858 --> 1:09:45.698
is going to help teams like

1:09:45.738 --> 1:09:47.899
Virginia Tech keep guys at

1:09:47.960 --> 1:09:49.180
Virginia Tech for longer.

1:09:49.921 --> 1:09:52.021
especially when you can get the NIL pot,

1:09:52.101 --> 1:09:53.582
at least in a competitive range,

1:09:53.962 --> 1:09:54.703
against some of those

1:09:54.722 --> 1:09:55.463
bigger schools that are

1:09:55.484 --> 1:09:56.304
trying to lure them away.

1:09:56.404 --> 1:09:59.905
So that's where we need to make our hay.

1:10:00.206 --> 1:10:01.265
Because you talk about 17,

1:10:01.265 --> 1:10:02.627
so you're talking about a

1:10:02.667 --> 1:10:05.528
plus-minus margin of error there.

1:10:05.927 --> 1:10:07.529
Five one way, five the other.

1:10:08.349 --> 1:10:10.350
If you're just going off

1:10:10.390 --> 1:10:11.251
recruiting rankings,

1:10:11.911 --> 1:10:13.931
getting in the top 25, top 22,

1:10:13.931 --> 1:10:14.851
puts you right there in

1:10:14.872 --> 1:10:15.872
that fucking conversation.

1:10:16.132 --> 1:10:16.533
No luck.

1:10:19.569 --> 1:10:21.951
And then you also go with mean,

1:10:22.171 --> 1:10:22.851
go with average.

1:10:23.632 --> 1:10:24.654
If the number one team,

1:10:24.694 --> 1:10:25.755
there's going to be a team

1:10:25.795 --> 1:10:28.077
that's sitting down there in the 30s that,

1:10:28.356 --> 1:10:29.597
as I love what Sheldon said,

1:10:30.139 --> 1:10:31.279
find the right combination

1:10:31.340 --> 1:10:33.042
of player development and quarterback,

1:10:33.502 --> 1:10:34.342
there's going to be a team

1:10:34.363 --> 1:10:35.904
that's in the 30s rankings

1:10:36.243 --> 1:10:37.225
that's going to make a run,

1:10:37.345 --> 1:10:38.686
that's going to get in the playoffs.

1:10:39.247 --> 1:10:39.407
Yep.

1:10:40.228 --> 1:10:40.368
Yep.

1:10:41.567 --> 1:10:42.067
Agreed.

1:10:42.247 --> 1:10:43.127
Let's hope it's us.

1:10:43.507 --> 1:10:44.568
One more quick thing before

1:10:44.608 --> 1:10:45.328
we go to break.

1:10:45.988 --> 1:10:47.189
And this, again,

1:10:47.229 --> 1:10:48.970
goes to the competition piece.

1:10:49.430 --> 1:10:51.069
We've had nine guys enter the portal.

1:10:51.871 --> 1:10:53.451
Y'all noticed none of them

1:10:53.490 --> 1:10:54.832
have went to FCS schools.

1:10:55.532 --> 1:10:56.712
None of them have went to a

1:10:56.811 --> 1:10:58.193
lower level of football yet.

1:10:59.292 --> 1:10:59.493
True.

1:11:00.274 --> 1:11:00.793
Pretty beat.

1:11:01.154 --> 1:11:02.054
Nobody's stepping down.

1:11:02.594 --> 1:11:03.975
Three went to P5s.

1:11:05.614 --> 1:11:06.956
Daquan Wright, Canteen.

1:11:07.902 --> 1:11:09.903
And Dwayne Lofton went to Oklahoma State.

1:11:10.523 --> 1:11:12.502
Three team went to P5, P4 now.

1:11:13.002 --> 1:11:14.764
Three stayed at the G5 level.

1:11:16.863 --> 1:11:19.265
We said it a few years ago about talent.

1:11:20.104 --> 1:11:20.484
Tally,

1:11:20.985 --> 1:11:23.086
you said it here about this time

1:11:23.126 --> 1:11:23.626
last year.

1:11:24.286 --> 1:11:25.606
You've got to have talent.

1:11:26.027 --> 1:11:27.266
You've got to have talent.

1:11:27.707 --> 1:11:29.887
Now, when I see who's left...

1:11:31.072 --> 1:11:32.395
We brought in some really good guys.

1:11:32.416 --> 1:11:34.442
Some guys,

1:11:34.603 --> 1:11:35.966
we had some good players leave

1:11:35.987 --> 1:11:36.949
that could have been role

1:11:36.989 --> 1:11:37.972
players that would have had

1:11:37.993 --> 1:11:38.614
a spot on this team.

1:11:39.078 --> 1:11:40.199
Yeah,

1:11:40.220 --> 1:11:41.640
and when we look at the guys that left,

1:11:41.701 --> 1:11:42.541
the guys that left that

1:11:42.560 --> 1:11:44.462
landed in P5 were guys that

1:11:44.481 --> 1:11:46.463
were either starters or in

1:11:46.484 --> 1:11:50.145
the rotation enough to get heavy reps,

1:11:50.326 --> 1:11:51.527
get good tape out there, right?

1:11:51.587 --> 1:11:54.648
So you had right canteen, obviously,

1:11:55.128 --> 1:11:57.229
their starters or at least 1A,

1:11:57.270 --> 1:11:58.230
1B at their positions.

1:11:59.771 --> 1:12:04.293
And then you had Lofton that

1:12:05.534 --> 1:12:06.416
he was in that five- or

1:12:06.456 --> 1:12:07.336
six-man wide receiver

1:12:07.376 --> 1:12:08.396
rotation for most of the year.

1:12:08.899 --> 1:12:09.542
Had some catches?

1:12:10.244 --> 1:12:11.185
So, you know,

1:12:11.426 --> 1:12:12.987
guys that were getting reps

1:12:13.067 --> 1:12:14.328
on this team that were

1:12:14.988 --> 1:12:16.409
starting and rotational

1:12:16.489 --> 1:12:18.372
caliber players are being

1:12:18.452 --> 1:12:19.672
looked at by those power

1:12:19.752 --> 1:12:22.335
five teams as commodities still.

1:12:24.157 --> 1:12:25.398
We're not just having to,

1:12:26.018 --> 1:12:28.039
when we look at years past,

1:12:28.079 --> 1:12:29.501
we had one or two guys that

1:12:29.520 --> 1:12:30.561
were dudes and then they

1:12:30.582 --> 1:12:31.582
got out of town because

1:12:31.622 --> 1:12:34.265
they were dudes for one reason or another,

1:12:34.324 --> 1:12:34.545
right?

1:12:34.805 --> 1:12:35.405
Whether you're talking about

1:12:35.426 --> 1:12:36.886
Hendon Hooker or somebody else, right?

1:12:37.507 --> 1:12:38.748
But then everybody else, you know,

1:12:40.244 --> 1:12:43.926
ended up finding lower level G5 positions,

1:12:44.345 --> 1:12:45.605
dropped down to FCS.

1:12:45.926 --> 1:12:47.226
And that's not knocking FCS

1:12:47.287 --> 1:12:48.127
or those players,

1:12:48.546 --> 1:12:50.167
but it definitely speaks to

1:12:50.427 --> 1:12:52.787
the caliber of player that

1:12:53.287 --> 1:12:54.849
we were bringing in after

1:12:54.929 --> 1:12:57.810
those handful of studs in a

1:12:58.090 --> 1:12:59.789
class and what we're doing

1:12:59.829 --> 1:13:00.789
now top to bottom.

1:13:02.211 --> 1:13:04.511
It's kind of like the floor's been raised.

1:13:05.331 --> 1:13:06.271
I mean, we've got a...

1:13:08.279 --> 1:13:09.680
uh preferred walk-on that we

1:13:09.720 --> 1:13:11.202
talked about earlier that

1:13:11.301 --> 1:13:13.724
probably in 19 or 20

1:13:13.724 --> 1:13:15.524
whatever year that was he

1:13:15.564 --> 1:13:16.345
might have been the highest

1:13:16.404 --> 1:13:19.167
ranked guy in that class I

1:13:19.226 --> 1:13:21.247
mean before the texas to vt

1:13:21.288 --> 1:13:22.229
movement he would have been

1:13:22.529 --> 1:13:24.310
he would have been he might

1:13:24.329 --> 1:13:24.791
have been the highest

1:13:24.850 --> 1:13:26.051
ranked guy in that class so

1:13:26.671 --> 1:13:27.672
you know the floor has been

1:13:27.712 --> 1:13:30.314
raised and um it's kudos to

1:13:30.333 --> 1:13:31.494
the coaches man it's kudos

1:13:31.515 --> 1:13:33.336
to the coaches that can go

1:13:33.435 --> 1:13:35.578
out and sell what virginia tech is so

1:13:36.701 --> 1:13:37.280
A hundred percent.

1:13:37.301 --> 1:13:38.141
A hundred percent.

1:13:38.481 --> 1:13:38.681
All right.

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first half of this episode.

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All righty, so let's hit this real quick.

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Tally kind of already gave it away.

1:15:16.194 --> 1:15:16.795
Next month,

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Mattesis is going to join us here.

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I don't know if we have the date quite yet,

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but it's going to be

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sometime next month to

1:15:23.261 --> 1:15:24.582
start talking about 25,

1:15:24.582 --> 1:15:26.585
put a good bow on 24.

1:15:26.585 --> 1:15:28.686
But as soon as that happened

1:15:28.726 --> 1:15:29.849
just a few days ago,

1:15:30.529 --> 1:15:32.851
we get our second commit, not our first,

1:15:33.231 --> 1:15:35.645
because Keldon Ryan committed –

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Y'all got to date y'all last year sometime,

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a long time ago.

1:15:39.529 --> 1:15:40.509
But we got our first

1:15:40.689 --> 1:15:44.072
in-state and local in Carter Starler,

1:15:44.091 --> 1:15:44.551
a 6'7.5",

1:15:44.572 --> 1:15:46.653
315-pound offensive tackle out

1:15:46.693 --> 1:15:48.033
of Christiansburg High School.

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He is ranked 16th in the

1:15:50.836 --> 1:15:51.737
state of Virginia.

1:15:52.237 --> 1:15:54.757
He is an 87 per 247.

1:15:57.199 --> 1:15:58.400
What a way to kick it off, kid,

1:15:58.461 --> 1:16:00.720
right down the street that –

1:16:00.720 --> 1:16:02.222
If you look at it, you saw that picture.

1:16:02.764 --> 1:16:03.845
He is one of those guys that

1:16:03.864 --> 1:16:05.006
looked a lot bigger than Bowen,

1:16:05.027 --> 1:16:06.470
and ain't many of those that happens.

1:16:07.792 --> 1:16:08.171
Brian,

1:16:08.193 --> 1:16:09.414
did you get a chance to look at tape?

1:16:09.574 --> 1:16:09.835
Tally,

1:16:09.854 --> 1:16:10.756
did you get a chance to look at any

1:16:10.777 --> 1:16:11.899
tape since he committed?

1:16:12.617 --> 1:16:13.858
No, I ain't looking no tape.

1:16:13.898 --> 1:16:16.279
I just know he's 6'7", 300 pounds.

1:16:17.298 --> 1:16:18.579
And he's – He a BMF.

1:16:19.420 --> 1:16:21.560
And he's that – I mean, take the layups.

1:16:22.041 --> 1:16:22.220
Yep.

1:16:22.841 --> 1:16:24.783
He's that close to campus,

1:16:24.823 --> 1:16:25.842
he'll close on that kid.

1:16:26.063 --> 1:16:27.904
Especially for an offensive lineman.

1:16:27.923 --> 1:16:28.743
Can I say something?

1:16:28.783 --> 1:16:30.204
He was getting a big push

1:16:31.645 --> 1:16:34.226
from Duke before the coaching change.

1:16:34.747 --> 1:16:34.886
Yeah.

1:16:34.987 --> 1:16:36.047
Ooh, okay.

1:16:36.387 --> 1:16:37.769
Big push from Duke before

1:16:37.788 --> 1:16:38.509
the coaching change,

1:16:38.548 --> 1:16:41.411
and we know what type of lineman –

1:16:41.411 --> 1:16:42.532
that they were bringing in

1:16:43.273 --> 1:16:44.734
to rebuild that program,

1:16:45.453 --> 1:16:46.414
if he was getting that type

1:16:46.454 --> 1:16:47.296
of heat from them,

1:16:48.237 --> 1:16:49.337
that's somebody you want to watch.

1:16:51.498 --> 1:16:53.000
So that's another good way

1:16:53.020 --> 1:16:54.541
to start the class off there.

1:16:56.302 --> 1:16:56.882
Yeah,

1:16:57.023 --> 1:16:58.465
and Render has definitely taken him

1:16:58.524 --> 1:16:59.125
under his wing.

1:16:59.145 --> 1:17:00.445
You've seen him posting a lot too.

1:17:00.485 --> 1:17:03.588
So getting him out there on the lake,

1:17:04.429 --> 1:17:05.911
doing all sorts of fun stuff.

1:17:06.011 --> 1:17:07.112
He's been training with him too.

1:17:07.192 --> 1:17:08.653
So it ain't just been fun stuff.

1:17:08.693 --> 1:17:09.472
It ain't just fun.

1:17:09.694 --> 1:17:10.895
It's still been fun,

1:17:10.935 --> 1:17:12.256
but it probably ain't been all fun.

1:17:12.296 --> 1:17:13.216
He's been working with him.

1:17:13.277 --> 1:17:14.738
He's been working with him for a while.

1:17:14.797 --> 1:17:17.119
So I've seen some of that stuff,

1:17:17.180 --> 1:17:19.121
but you can't teach size.

1:17:19.381 --> 1:17:20.341
You can't teach size.

1:17:20.362 --> 1:17:21.182
You can't teach speed.

1:17:22.712 --> 1:17:24.012
For an offensive lineman

1:17:24.913 --> 1:17:27.335
that is that close to campus, yeah,

1:17:27.354 --> 1:17:27.796
I'll take it.

1:17:28.195 --> 1:17:28.615
I'll take it.

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Yeah.

1:17:29.716 --> 1:17:32.358
Now Matej saying still 6'6", 290, Jim.

1:17:32.398 --> 1:17:33.759
That's still a big – Yeah.

1:17:33.899 --> 1:17:35.220
Hey, Jim on it today.

1:17:35.260 --> 1:17:36.341
Jim ain't playing, man.

1:17:36.381 --> 1:17:36.980
Yeah, Jim.

1:17:37.001 --> 1:17:38.261
Jim, you got to calm down for me.

1:17:38.481 --> 1:17:40.143
You're going to have Matej mad at us.

1:17:40.203 --> 1:17:41.444
He ain't going to be mad at us.

1:17:41.463 --> 1:17:42.043
Matej loves us.

1:17:42.083 --> 1:17:42.585
All right.

1:17:42.984 --> 1:17:43.864
So two other things.

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I don't know if you all saw this.

1:17:45.246 --> 1:17:45.787
Obviously –

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I'm going to hit the fun one first.

1:17:48.507 --> 1:17:50.548
Y'all see Jay Ham got hired.

1:17:51.189 --> 1:17:52.090
I did.

1:17:52.189 --> 1:17:53.130
I paid attention to that.

1:17:53.149 --> 1:17:53.829
I know you did.

1:17:53.850 --> 1:17:55.650
I got the alert.

1:17:56.152 --> 1:17:57.712
Didn't he coach in some game?

1:17:57.731 --> 1:17:59.332
He coached in the –

1:18:02.689 --> 1:18:03.470
he was coaching for your

1:18:03.489 --> 1:18:04.390
team now he's coaching for

1:18:04.430 --> 1:18:05.891
my team no but he's

1:18:05.931 --> 1:18:07.172
coaching for somebody like

1:18:07.212 --> 1:18:08.194
he did an all star game or

1:18:08.213 --> 1:18:10.956
something oh yeah yeah yeah

1:18:11.456 --> 1:18:12.676
so hey man shout out to J

1:18:12.716 --> 1:18:14.198
Ham I'm sorry you got

1:18:14.278 --> 1:18:16.139
lumped with fuckhead clown

1:18:16.180 --> 1:18:18.140
but you know fuckhead hey

1:18:18.240 --> 1:18:20.502
I'm glad you're out here

1:18:20.563 --> 1:18:21.663
prospering my boy

1:18:25.421 --> 1:18:26.021
You know what?

1:18:26.101 --> 1:18:26.783
It's good for him.

1:18:27.103 --> 1:18:29.884
I mean, he burned a lot of load.

1:18:30.064 --> 1:18:31.005
He was put in a position

1:18:31.024 --> 1:18:32.565
that there was no way he could be a win.

1:18:33.006 --> 1:18:34.207
And he's turning it around, man.

1:18:34.527 --> 1:18:34.846
So, Brian,

1:18:34.867 --> 1:18:35.967
you'll have to keep us surprised

1:18:36.028 --> 1:18:37.627
of how the secondary is doing next year.

1:18:37.988 --> 1:18:38.309
Oh, yeah.

1:18:38.488 --> 1:18:38.649
Indy.

1:18:40.394 --> 1:18:42.114
And with him being with my team,

1:18:42.715 --> 1:18:43.636
I didn't even have to watch

1:18:43.716 --> 1:18:45.176
none of like what he did

1:18:45.237 --> 1:18:46.978
because our fucking front

1:18:47.057 --> 1:18:48.979
office was a mess.

1:18:49.720 --> 1:18:51.280
If you did anything good and

1:18:51.320 --> 1:18:52.561
your name wasn't Derrick Henry,

1:18:52.622 --> 1:18:53.922
you were definitely getting traded.

1:18:56.345 --> 1:18:57.545
You did anything good.

1:18:57.564 --> 1:18:58.525
They was getting rid of you.

1:18:58.565 --> 1:18:59.726
I was like, what are we doing?

1:19:00.270 --> 1:19:01.871
we gave AJ Brown to the,

1:19:01.911 --> 1:19:03.832
to the Eagles and gave so

1:19:03.992 --> 1:19:04.811
on and so forth.

1:19:04.872 --> 1:19:07.033
So it didn't even matter what we did.

1:19:07.052 --> 1:19:08.894
Uh, you know, I mean,

1:19:08.934 --> 1:19:12.354
the defense has been solid, but I didn't,

1:19:12.475 --> 1:19:14.615
I didn't watch Jay Ham's, uh, you know,

1:19:15.275 --> 1:19:17.676
coaching this year, but again, it's just,

1:19:17.756 --> 1:19:20.559
I'm glad to see him all jokes aside,

1:19:20.599 --> 1:19:23.920
see him, um, progressing and,

1:19:24.079 --> 1:19:25.501
and continuing his coaching career.

1:19:25.520 --> 1:19:26.600
Cause, uh,

1:19:26.621 --> 1:19:28.341
that just goes to show you kind of like,

1:19:28.601 --> 1:19:28.662
um,

1:19:30.131 --> 1:19:33.413
When people talk about coaching hires,

1:19:33.913 --> 1:19:35.774
you look at when people go home.

1:19:36.836 --> 1:19:39.137
If your first big job is at home,

1:19:39.177 --> 1:19:40.118
you got nowhere to go.

1:19:41.840 --> 1:19:44.521
He was kind of doomed from the beginning,

1:19:45.162 --> 1:19:45.783
for real.

1:19:46.042 --> 1:19:47.423
You talk about Shane, seriously.

1:19:47.463 --> 1:19:48.664
When people talk about Shane,

1:19:48.965 --> 1:19:50.265
that was my knock on that.

1:19:50.686 --> 1:19:52.387
Because if Shane's first job

1:19:52.448 --> 1:19:55.970
is Virginia Tech, and he fucking flops,

1:19:57.164 --> 1:19:59.686
with us already being where we were,

1:20:00.367 --> 1:20:01.027
where does he go?

1:20:01.988 --> 1:20:02.648
You know what I'm saying?

1:20:02.667 --> 1:20:03.609
You got nowhere to go.

1:20:03.689 --> 1:20:06.711
So again, I'm, I'm, we ain't got to go to,

1:20:06.970 --> 1:20:08.032
no, not go birds.

1:20:08.091 --> 1:20:11.253
But anyway, we, you know,

1:20:11.293 --> 1:20:11.974
that's just what I think

1:20:12.014 --> 1:20:13.194
about when it comes to the, the,

1:20:13.295 --> 1:20:15.496
the coaching and all he's from here.

1:20:15.615 --> 1:20:16.136
He's a coach.

1:20:16.197 --> 1:20:17.117
Like sometimes you got to

1:20:17.136 --> 1:20:18.078
spread your wings somewhere

1:20:18.137 --> 1:20:20.059
else and build your name

1:20:20.099 --> 1:20:22.341
and then go back where you started.

1:20:22.381 --> 1:20:22.480
So.

1:20:23.319 --> 1:20:37.752
100%, 100%.

1:20:23.539 --> 1:20:24.320
All right,

1:20:24.881 --> 1:20:26.603
the other big coaching news I'm

1:20:26.643 --> 1:20:27.444
sure you all have been

1:20:27.543 --> 1:20:28.625
probably somewhat following

1:20:28.685 --> 1:20:30.966
was Jeff Halfley left BC to

1:20:31.006 --> 1:20:31.927
go to Green Bay to be the

1:20:31.967 --> 1:20:35.270
defensive coordinator, which was, I mean,

1:20:35.751 --> 1:20:37.453
hey, we were in that situation last year,

1:20:37.533 --> 1:20:37.752
right?

1:20:38.033 --> 1:20:42.037
Laid in the game and your

1:20:42.237 --> 1:20:43.097
head coach leaves.

1:20:43.217 --> 1:20:45.298
And right now, and I'm reading this,

1:20:46.560 --> 1:20:48.783
Bill O'Brien has interviewed with them

1:20:49.832 --> 1:20:50.594
Jeff Munkin,

1:20:50.953 --> 1:20:52.694
I swear to God if they hire Jeff Munkin,

1:20:52.715 --> 1:20:53.454
I'm going to hate our life.

1:20:54.036 --> 1:20:54.815
I'm glad we're not going to

1:20:54.836 --> 1:20:56.556
play him if he runs a damn triple option.

1:20:57.377 --> 1:20:59.559
Paul Chris, the old Wisconsin head coach.

1:20:59.698 --> 1:21:02.701
Troy Calhoun, Air Force head coach.

1:21:03.020 --> 1:21:07.264
And Al Washington from Notre Dame,

1:21:07.283 --> 1:21:08.465
who's their D-line coach.

1:21:09.444 --> 1:21:10.445
I do not want Munkin.

1:21:11.684 --> 1:21:13.225
Just because we dealt with

1:21:13.286 --> 1:21:14.887
Paul Johnson for all those years.

1:21:15.868 --> 1:21:16.470
That's the only one.

1:21:16.489 --> 1:21:17.551
The other ones I don't care about.

1:21:17.610 --> 1:21:19.474
I think they are what they are.

1:21:19.894 --> 1:21:21.115
Y'all got any feelings on that?

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I'm right with you.

1:21:23.358 --> 1:21:24.779
Anybody but Munkin is fine with me.

1:21:25.440 --> 1:21:26.261
No triple option.

1:21:26.742 --> 1:21:28.784
Munkin, Munkin, whoever.

1:21:29.005 --> 1:21:30.127
I don't want nobody to run

1:21:30.146 --> 1:21:31.287
no triple option up there.

1:21:32.511 --> 1:21:33.752
Don't get anybody to run no

1:21:33.792 --> 1:21:35.052
triple option that we got to play.

1:21:35.514 --> 1:21:37.595
But, you know, BC is one of those jobs,

1:21:37.694 --> 1:21:38.154
man.

1:21:38.555 --> 1:21:39.756
Like that's always a gritty

1:21:39.796 --> 1:21:41.775
team and it's always a, you know,

1:21:41.817 --> 1:21:43.556
a tough game for most people to play.

1:21:43.596 --> 1:21:44.177
But it's like,

1:21:45.278 --> 1:21:46.338
I know it's got to be hard

1:21:46.359 --> 1:21:48.139
to just sustain and win there.

1:21:48.600 --> 1:21:49.520
You know what I'm saying?

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So I don't know.

1:21:51.921 --> 1:21:53.181
Interesting to see what they'll do.

1:21:54.101 --> 1:21:54.301
Yeah.

1:21:55.061 --> 1:21:56.243
Belichick, Belichick angle.

1:21:56.778 --> 1:21:59.359
Yeah, I mean,

1:21:59.479 --> 1:22:01.161
it's gotten even harder for them, I think,

1:22:01.362 --> 1:22:02.181
since, you know,

1:22:02.381 --> 1:22:02.882
when you look at the

1:22:02.903 --> 1:22:04.703
transfer portal in NIL, I feel like,

1:22:05.545 --> 1:22:05.704
you know,

1:22:05.744 --> 1:22:07.525
that really put them in a bad spot.

1:22:07.565 --> 1:22:08.926
The way recruiting shifted

1:22:09.648 --> 1:22:12.930
kind of towards late 2000s, early 2010s,

1:22:13.551 --> 1:22:14.692
put them behind the eight ball.

1:22:14.712 --> 1:22:15.372
Before that,

1:22:15.452 --> 1:22:16.912
they were pretty damn

1:22:16.932 --> 1:22:18.534
competitive given their

1:22:18.555 --> 1:22:21.657
stature in the recruiting game,

1:22:22.216 --> 1:22:23.698
in retaining talent and things like that.

1:22:23.738 --> 1:22:25.159
But once things started to shift,

1:22:25.800 --> 1:22:28.381
and it became an arms race,

1:22:29.403 --> 1:22:30.583
they really fallen off.

1:22:30.885 --> 1:22:32.886
They weren't going to win that at all.

1:22:32.905 --> 1:22:33.127
Alrighty.

1:22:33.167 --> 1:22:34.787
We got one last piece to hit

1:22:34.828 --> 1:22:36.810
today because the day after

1:22:36.869 --> 1:22:39.192
we had our dream schedules

1:22:39.231 --> 1:22:40.592
that we put all of them up here,

1:22:41.113 --> 1:22:43.975
the actual final schedule was released.

1:22:44.596 --> 1:22:46.498
Um, date set, um,

1:22:47.019 --> 1:22:48.740
a couple of times set that we know, uh,

1:22:49.440 --> 1:22:50.681
And I just wanted to talk

1:22:50.721 --> 1:22:51.261
with them about it.

1:22:51.341 --> 1:22:52.242
Tally wasn't here.

1:22:52.362 --> 1:22:53.882
Tally had things going on last week.

1:22:53.922 --> 1:22:55.184
We're very glad to have him

1:22:55.243 --> 1:22:55.923
back this week.

1:22:55.963 --> 1:22:57.744
But, Brian, pull up that thing.

1:22:59.444 --> 1:23:01.046
And we see it there.

1:23:01.086 --> 1:23:02.827
We kick off Vanderbilt-Nashville.

1:23:02.966 --> 1:23:03.827
Brian's going.

1:23:03.886 --> 1:23:04.707
Tally's going.

1:23:05.247 --> 1:23:06.127
I'm going to try to go.

1:23:06.148 --> 1:23:08.069
They asked me the other day,

1:23:08.109 --> 1:23:08.788
what do you think, Kurt?

1:23:08.809 --> 1:23:09.048
I'm like,

1:23:09.069 --> 1:23:10.250
I don't know what I'm doing next week.

1:23:10.869 --> 1:23:12.430
August is a long ways away.

1:23:14.358 --> 1:23:15.578
Then we got Marshall at home,

1:23:15.838 --> 1:23:17.798
ODU on the road, Rutgers at home,

1:23:17.878 --> 1:23:20.100
Miami-Stanford back-to-back on the road,

1:23:20.220 --> 1:23:21.520
BC's a Thursday night,

1:23:21.600 --> 1:23:24.820
Georgia Tech at home late in October.

1:23:25.421 --> 1:23:30.042
To the Carrier Dome in early November,

1:23:30.203 --> 1:23:32.743
Clemson 11-9.

1:23:32.764 --> 1:23:34.764
11-9, remember that one.

1:23:35.145 --> 1:23:36.385
Five weeks after that,

1:23:36.824 --> 1:23:38.244
the Duke game and the UVA

1:23:38.265 --> 1:23:39.466
game to wrap the season.

1:23:40.338 --> 1:23:41.661
So I'm going to pitch it to you boys.

1:23:41.680 --> 1:23:42.301
I'm going to pitch it to

1:23:42.362 --> 1:23:43.643
Tally first because he

1:23:43.682 --> 1:23:44.805
wasn't here last week to

1:23:44.845 --> 1:23:46.105
kind of defend why he had

1:23:46.145 --> 1:23:47.667
his perfect schedule the way he had it.

1:23:47.728 --> 1:23:50.451
But, Tally, looking at this schedule,

1:23:51.051 --> 1:23:51.993
what do you like?

1:23:52.153 --> 1:23:53.395
What games do you think

1:23:53.454 --> 1:23:54.336
that's a good spot?

1:23:54.395 --> 1:23:55.518
I like where that is.

1:23:55.757 --> 1:23:57.319
And what do you like first?

1:23:58.171 --> 1:24:00.252
I mean, the start of the season is good.

1:24:00.511 --> 1:24:01.391
I definitely like that

1:24:01.431 --> 1:24:04.632
Vanderbilt game being the first game.

1:24:04.893 --> 1:24:06.734
For me, it's two hours away,

1:24:07.293 --> 1:24:08.614
a little less than two hours away,

1:24:08.675 --> 1:24:10.114
so I can be there.

1:24:10.175 --> 1:24:11.515
But playing an SEC team,

1:24:11.555 --> 1:24:12.935
a lower-level SEC team,

1:24:13.576 --> 1:24:15.556
I think it's a good call for us,

1:24:15.577 --> 1:24:17.257
a good shot for us to go

1:24:17.278 --> 1:24:17.978
show what we can do.

1:24:18.018 --> 1:24:18.858
We just got to show up and

1:24:18.877 --> 1:24:19.658
do what we need to do.

1:24:20.498 --> 1:24:24.739
And then, you know, you got Marshall, ODU,

1:24:25.220 --> 1:24:26.161
and Rutgers.

1:24:26.826 --> 1:24:27.907
So three teams that we

1:24:27.966 --> 1:24:31.288
played last year that I

1:24:31.349 --> 1:24:32.590
feel we underperformed in

1:24:32.810 --> 1:24:33.649
all of those games.

1:24:34.350 --> 1:24:36.431
So it's kind of a revenge

1:24:36.471 --> 1:24:38.153
tour on those games.

1:24:38.734 --> 1:24:39.373
You know what I'm saying?

1:24:39.713 --> 1:24:41.095
Even though we won the ODU game,

1:24:41.395 --> 1:24:43.377
I don't think we played to our potential.

1:24:43.516 --> 1:24:44.197
No, we didn't.

1:24:44.757 --> 1:24:46.698
So I think that first four

1:24:46.759 --> 1:24:50.220
games can give us a big

1:24:50.280 --> 1:24:51.841
boost moving up and going

1:24:51.881 --> 1:24:52.563
into the season.

1:24:52.603 --> 1:24:53.943
So I like that.

1:24:54.323 --> 1:24:56.164
Again, it's going to be fun to watch.

1:24:56.632 --> 1:24:57.632
All right, Brian, what about you?

1:24:57.733 --> 1:24:58.693
What do you like?

1:25:00.213 --> 1:25:01.413
I like that we're getting

1:25:01.434 --> 1:25:03.453
those long-ass road trips out of the way.

1:25:04.474 --> 1:25:06.914
We're going to Miami, going to Stanford,

1:25:07.994 --> 1:25:08.635
hopefully going to beat

1:25:08.675 --> 1:25:10.675
their ass on both cases there.

1:25:10.694 --> 1:25:14.015
I like getting big road

1:25:14.055 --> 1:25:15.655
trips out of the way early in the season.

1:25:16.256 --> 1:25:19.176
That way, as we hit towards that tail end,

1:25:19.277 --> 1:25:20.417
we're sticking close to home.

1:25:20.837 --> 1:25:22.677
Got a lot of home games on the back end,

1:25:22.757 --> 1:25:25.318
and the two road trips aren't that bad.

1:25:26.347 --> 1:25:27.868
Nope, not at all.

1:25:28.408 --> 1:25:29.429
Two of the road trips.

1:25:29.809 --> 1:25:31.189
One of them is going to be a home game.

1:25:31.229 --> 1:25:33.490
You already know that with that Duke game.

1:25:34.690 --> 1:25:35.891
I'm with Brian and I preached this.

1:25:35.912 --> 1:25:37.192
This was on my perfect schedule.

1:25:37.212 --> 1:25:38.693
I actually, you know,

1:25:38.773 --> 1:25:40.113
I wanted Stanford early.

1:25:40.853 --> 1:25:41.713
I wanted Stanford early.

1:25:41.753 --> 1:25:42.533
I wanted Miami.

1:25:42.654 --> 1:25:43.474
I wanted them late,

1:25:43.514 --> 1:25:44.494
but I wanted Stanford early.

1:25:44.534 --> 1:25:45.715
But getting the two longest

1:25:45.755 --> 1:25:46.576
road trips out of the way

1:25:46.615 --> 1:25:47.735
is my biggest challenge.

1:25:48.222 --> 1:25:49.984
Like, I love – I like that.

1:25:50.043 --> 1:25:50.583
I love that.

1:25:50.923 --> 1:25:52.083
I also love it that we got

1:25:52.104 --> 1:25:52.944
two buys this year

1:25:52.984 --> 1:25:54.465
effectively because after

1:25:54.484 --> 1:25:55.326
the Stanford game,

1:25:55.365 --> 1:25:56.685
we don't play the next weekend.

1:25:56.725 --> 1:25:58.106
It played the next Thursday.

1:25:58.527 --> 1:25:58.686
So,

1:25:59.367 --> 1:26:01.268
we sort of get that middle of the season.

1:26:01.787 --> 1:26:02.608
Take a look at that.

1:26:02.707 --> 1:26:03.408
After the Stanford game,

1:26:03.429 --> 1:26:04.529
we played six games.

1:26:05.269 --> 1:26:06.689
And in the stretch of what?

1:26:06.770 --> 1:26:08.029
How many days is that going to be, Brian?

1:26:08.069 --> 1:26:09.570
Like, trying to look here.

1:26:10.591 --> 1:26:12.872
So, in a 24 – in a 22-day span,

1:26:12.891 --> 1:26:14.073
we're going to play one game.

1:26:17.899 --> 1:26:18.340
22-day span.

1:26:18.520 --> 1:26:19.421
So we want to talk about

1:26:19.560 --> 1:26:20.981
y'all both played six,

1:26:21.002 --> 1:26:22.162
seven games into a season.

1:26:22.181 --> 1:26:23.103
A lot of people are nicked.

1:26:23.122 --> 1:26:24.143
A lot of people are hurting.

1:26:24.162 --> 1:26:26.625
We're going to play one game in 22 days.

1:26:27.664 --> 1:26:28.786
Great point to, hey,

1:26:28.826 --> 1:26:29.765
let's get everybody healthy.

1:26:29.805 --> 1:26:30.606
Let's get these things

1:26:30.646 --> 1:26:32.247
healed up and things like that.

1:26:33.328 --> 1:26:33.728
All right.

1:26:34.189 --> 1:26:35.890
I'm going to go back to Tally again.

1:26:36.970 --> 1:26:39.430
Tally, what do you hate on this schedule?

1:26:39.971 --> 1:26:40.652
What do you throw your

1:26:40.671 --> 1:26:41.813
middle finger at and throw

1:26:41.853 --> 1:26:42.592
things at the TV?

1:26:42.632 --> 1:26:44.253
What do you hate on this schedule?

1:26:45.578 --> 1:26:45.898
Man,

1:26:46.137 --> 1:26:49.078
I guess what I hate is just even that

1:26:49.158 --> 1:26:51.979
stretch of that Georgia Tech... Hold on.

1:26:52.140 --> 1:26:53.220
Before we talk any of that,

1:26:53.661 --> 1:26:55.082
fucking going to Syracuse

1:26:55.141 --> 1:26:56.341
is what I definitely hate.

1:26:56.362 --> 1:26:58.502
I fucking hate that Carrier Dome.

1:26:58.523 --> 1:26:59.963
I don't care what kind of team they got.

1:26:59.984 --> 1:27:01.463
I don't give a fuck who is

1:27:01.484 --> 1:27:02.104
the quarterback.

1:27:02.123 --> 1:27:03.885
I don't care if they put a

1:27:04.104 --> 1:27:05.265
middle school team out there.

1:27:05.326 --> 1:27:06.365
I fucking hate going there

1:27:06.386 --> 1:27:07.666
and playing because it's

1:27:07.726 --> 1:27:09.287
always some bullshit that happens.

1:27:09.846 --> 1:27:11.228
It's always some dumbass

1:27:11.247 --> 1:27:11.967
shit that happens.

1:27:12.047 --> 1:27:12.988
I fucking hate that.

1:27:13.609 --> 1:27:13.809
But...

1:27:14.570 --> 1:27:16.012
We want to be a little bit more technical.

1:27:17.555 --> 1:27:20.440
That stretch of Georgia Tech, Syracuse,

1:27:20.940 --> 1:27:22.344
and Clemson, and even Duke.

1:27:22.524 --> 1:27:23.926
You can group them in there as well.

1:27:23.945 --> 1:27:25.689
I know they got new coaches and stuff,

1:27:25.708 --> 1:27:26.590
but that's a lot of...

1:27:29.158 --> 1:27:29.417
Like,

1:27:30.099 --> 1:27:32.380
mad-ass teams that just fucking get

1:27:32.439 --> 1:27:33.740
in your ear and fuck with you.

1:27:33.761 --> 1:27:34.480
You know what I'm saying?

1:27:34.962 --> 1:27:36.483
Georgia Tech's one of those teams,

1:27:36.523 --> 1:27:37.764
and Duke's one of those teams,

1:27:37.823 --> 1:27:39.064
and Syracuse.

1:27:39.104 --> 1:27:40.024
I know we don't know what we got,

1:27:40.064 --> 1:27:41.006
but we got to go there.

1:27:41.426 --> 1:27:42.426
And I know everybody's going

1:27:42.447 --> 1:27:43.207
to be looking forward to

1:27:43.226 --> 1:27:44.007
that Clemson game.

1:27:44.127 --> 1:27:46.930
Just all that kind of smashed in together.

1:27:46.989 --> 1:27:47.930
I don't love that.

1:27:51.231 --> 1:27:51.452
Brian?

1:27:51.832 --> 1:27:52.012
Yep.

1:27:52.453 --> 1:27:54.094
I'm right there with you, Tally.

1:27:55.015 --> 1:27:55.375
Really good.

1:27:57.282 --> 1:27:58.502
I can say that really that

1:27:58.563 --> 1:27:59.804
four-game stretch between

1:27:59.844 --> 1:28:01.305
Georgia Tech and Duke with

1:28:02.164 --> 1:28:03.086
the trip to the Carrier

1:28:03.126 --> 1:28:05.287
Dome being the bitch of it

1:28:05.427 --> 1:28:08.630
all because you hate making

1:28:08.670 --> 1:28:11.171
that trip and then having

1:28:11.190 --> 1:28:12.212
to turn right around and

1:28:12.271 --> 1:28:14.273
play arguably the best team

1:28:14.313 --> 1:28:15.793
on your schedule right after that.

1:28:18.136 --> 1:28:19.617
So that's kind of my least

1:28:19.657 --> 1:28:20.858
favorable matchup.

1:28:20.877 --> 1:28:21.899
The only thing that's kind of –

1:28:22.738 --> 1:28:24.340
helping us there is that we get the,

1:28:24.479 --> 1:28:25.359
as Curtis was talking about

1:28:25.399 --> 1:28:26.579
those days to kind of gear

1:28:26.720 --> 1:28:27.801
up for that run.

1:28:27.860 --> 1:28:28.100
Right.

1:28:28.280 --> 1:28:29.541
So, um,

1:28:29.980 --> 1:28:31.981
I think that's going to be a saving

1:28:32.042 --> 1:28:34.061
grace in that period, but then, you know,

1:28:34.381 --> 1:28:35.103
you're going to have to,

1:28:35.802 --> 1:28:38.104
to go on the road at Syracuse, never fun,

1:28:38.484 --> 1:28:39.743
fucking visitor locker room

1:28:39.764 --> 1:28:41.083
at the top of the damn stadium,

1:28:41.385 --> 1:28:42.524
all sorts of goofy shit.

1:28:42.984 --> 1:28:45.046
Like if it can't happen, it will happen.

1:28:45.086 --> 1:28:46.065
It's not quite ODU.

1:28:46.105 --> 1:28:47.305
We get stuck in an elevator,

1:28:47.345 --> 1:28:48.167
but pretty much anything

1:28:48.207 --> 1:28:48.947
else is on the table.

1:28:48.966 --> 1:28:49.006
Um,

1:28:50.327 --> 1:28:51.287
And then you got Clemson

1:28:51.328 --> 1:28:52.807
coming off of that.

1:28:52.847 --> 1:28:53.649
That's going to be a big game.

1:28:53.689 --> 1:28:54.748
Everybody's circling that one.

1:28:55.949 --> 1:28:56.229
All right.

1:28:56.350 --> 1:29:00.752
So it is a resounding majority,

1:29:00.832 --> 1:29:01.731
super majority win.

1:29:01.752 --> 1:29:03.372
I hate playing Syracuse.

1:29:04.672 --> 1:29:05.533
Everybody hates it.

1:29:05.594 --> 1:29:06.274
Nobody likes it.

1:29:07.274 --> 1:29:08.715
I hate it even doubly more

1:29:08.994 --> 1:29:10.336
that the freaking assholes

1:29:10.376 --> 1:29:11.496
down in Charlotte chose to

1:29:11.536 --> 1:29:13.976
put Clemson the game after that.

1:29:14.676 --> 1:29:15.938
The game after that.

1:29:16.899 --> 1:29:17.881
I'm an orange lover.

1:29:17.981 --> 1:29:18.823
I love orange.

1:29:18.842 --> 1:29:19.784
That's too much orange.

1:29:19.845 --> 1:29:20.645
That's too much orange.

1:29:20.666 --> 1:29:21.447
We don't need that much

1:29:21.488 --> 1:29:22.668
fucking orange at one time.

1:29:23.029 --> 1:29:24.773
My second... Now, I got a two.

1:29:24.813 --> 1:29:25.875
Y'all stuck with that.

1:29:27.011 --> 1:29:27.990
And even though I like going

1:29:28.032 --> 1:29:29.051
down to Miami and getting

1:29:29.072 --> 1:29:30.011
that out of the way early,

1:29:30.273 --> 1:29:32.132
I hate that that is after Rutgers.

1:29:32.153 --> 1:29:34.335
And I said it back two weeks ago.

1:29:34.734 --> 1:29:36.074
I hate that's after Rutgers,

1:29:36.274 --> 1:29:37.296
and I hate it's a short week.

1:29:37.975 --> 1:29:39.556
Because y'all know, and I said it,

1:29:39.577 --> 1:29:40.797
and I'll repeat myself again,

1:29:41.137 --> 1:29:43.338
Shiano is going to play very physical.

1:29:43.979 --> 1:29:44.759
We are going to come out of

1:29:44.800 --> 1:29:46.180
that game sore.

1:29:47.421 --> 1:29:48.981
And now we got to get in a flight,

1:29:49.322 --> 1:29:50.301
go down to Miami,

1:29:50.761 --> 1:29:51.563
so you know it's going to

1:29:51.603 --> 1:29:52.743
screw up the schedule and

1:29:52.783 --> 1:29:53.604
everything for that week.

1:29:53.684 --> 1:29:54.564
That's my second most hated.

1:29:54.783 --> 1:29:56.085
But still, it's Syracuse.

1:29:58.225 --> 1:29:59.046
Let's look here.

1:29:59.206 --> 1:30:00.265
Y'all kind of mentioned it,

1:30:00.386 --> 1:30:01.386
the hardest stretch.

1:30:02.127 --> 1:30:03.186
I think y'all are right,

1:30:03.306 --> 1:30:05.328
even though we do get a bye

1:30:05.387 --> 1:30:06.887
week between Clemson and Duke.

1:30:07.688 --> 1:30:09.248
That stretch right there, it's like,

1:30:09.729 --> 1:30:10.748
you know what?

1:30:10.889 --> 1:30:11.208
What is it?

1:30:11.769 --> 1:30:12.989
Haynes King did down at

1:30:13.029 --> 1:30:13.930
Georgia Tech last year.

1:30:14.229 --> 1:30:15.270
He's a good football player.

1:30:15.649 --> 1:30:15.871
Yeah.

1:30:16.070 --> 1:30:17.131
He's a good football player.

1:30:17.690 --> 1:30:18.652
Got a good coach, too.

1:30:19.051 --> 1:30:19.971
Yeah, good coach, too.

1:30:20.693 --> 1:30:23.514
Carrier Dome, then Clemson in town.

1:30:23.873 --> 1:30:24.635
Then you get a bye week,

1:30:24.675 --> 1:30:25.614
and you got to go Natty

1:30:25.654 --> 1:30:27.997
Duke before the UVA game.

1:30:28.117 --> 1:30:29.396
So, I agree.

1:30:29.417 --> 1:30:30.797
I think that is the hardest

1:30:30.877 --> 1:30:31.918
stretch of the season.

1:30:34.439 --> 1:30:35.440
What game – I mean,

1:30:37.862 --> 1:30:38.922
what's y'all's opinions on

1:30:38.943 --> 1:30:41.423
the Thursdays night games?

1:30:43.814 --> 1:30:44.855
We on Thursday night.

1:30:45.315 --> 1:30:46.516
We on Thursday night, man.

1:30:46.556 --> 1:30:47.457
Thursday night is us.

1:30:47.938 --> 1:30:49.118
We invented Thursday night.

1:30:49.238 --> 1:30:50.498
We invented Thursday night.

1:30:51.560 --> 1:30:52.779
Let's go fuck somebody up on

1:30:52.819 --> 1:30:53.961
Thursday night and quit playing.

1:30:54.240 --> 1:30:55.662
Who we played on Thursday night this year?

1:30:55.681 --> 1:30:56.582
Was it Syracuse?

1:30:56.863 --> 1:30:57.563
No, BC.

1:30:57.802 --> 1:30:59.344
No, last year, like this past year.

1:30:59.363 --> 1:31:00.284
Syracuse, yeah.

1:31:00.305 --> 1:31:01.125
Syracuse, okay.

1:31:01.145 --> 1:31:01.826
We fucked them up.

1:31:02.185 --> 1:31:02.765
Yeah.

1:31:02.786 --> 1:31:04.106
Syracuse got fucked in the

1:31:04.167 --> 1:31:05.087
ass on Thursday night,

1:31:05.127 --> 1:31:06.469
so that's a good ass fucking night.

1:31:07.189 --> 1:31:07.628
All right?

1:31:08.310 --> 1:31:09.109
So, BC.

1:31:09.310 --> 1:31:10.051
Get the lube.

1:31:10.211 --> 1:31:11.430
Your coach just quit on you?

1:31:11.471 --> 1:31:12.212
No, no lube.

1:31:13.345 --> 1:31:15.990
Your coach done quit on you.

1:31:16.552 --> 1:31:17.373
We ain't going to quit.

1:31:17.534 --> 1:31:18.536
We're going to keep pounding.

1:31:19.707 --> 1:31:20.846
Come on in here Thursday

1:31:20.887 --> 1:31:21.787
night and it's on.

1:31:22.148 --> 1:31:23.368
Metaphorically and literally.

1:31:23.809 --> 1:31:25.229
Yeah, don't worry about that.

1:31:25.569 --> 1:31:27.130
But to go back to what

1:31:27.149 --> 1:31:27.949
Curtis said when he's

1:31:27.970 --> 1:31:30.070
talking about the stretches, that kind of,

1:31:30.291 --> 1:31:30.572
you know,

1:31:31.011 --> 1:31:32.372
of course the one that I said is

1:31:32.412 --> 1:31:34.372
kind of the main one,

1:31:34.693 --> 1:31:36.913
but that stretch where you go Rutgers,

1:31:37.654 --> 1:31:40.195
then Miami, then Stanford,

1:31:40.216 --> 1:31:41.756
all the way across the fucking country,

1:31:42.396 --> 1:31:43.356
and then BC,

1:31:44.356 --> 1:31:45.177
who knows what they're going

1:31:45.198 --> 1:31:45.797
to come out in.

1:31:46.118 --> 1:31:47.738
They might come out in some fucking...

1:31:48.666 --> 1:31:49.846
Blood socks or something.

1:31:49.907 --> 1:31:50.386
I don't know.

1:31:50.466 --> 1:31:51.728
Bandanas around their necks.

1:31:51.807 --> 1:31:52.547
I don't know what they're

1:31:52.568 --> 1:31:53.389
going to come out in.

1:31:53.988 --> 1:31:55.090
So just that little,

1:31:55.449 --> 1:31:57.331
that is a stretch that's not,

1:31:58.351 --> 1:31:59.452
I'm not loving that either.

1:31:59.893 --> 1:32:00.613
You know what I'm saying?

1:32:01.273 --> 1:32:01.514
Yeah.

1:32:01.634 --> 1:32:03.175
I like the opening stretch though.

1:32:03.395 --> 1:32:04.154
You said it, Tally.

1:32:04.194 --> 1:32:05.716
That opening stretch is really good.

1:32:05.756 --> 1:32:06.515
See where we are.

1:32:06.917 --> 1:32:08.497
I like what Chris said here.

1:32:09.417 --> 1:32:10.417
That will be a Friday night

1:32:10.457 --> 1:32:12.238
under the lights down in Miami.

1:32:12.779 --> 1:32:14.421
And like you said,

1:32:14.720 --> 1:32:15.662
that might be the coming

1:32:15.721 --> 1:32:18.083
out party because it seems

1:32:18.123 --> 1:32:19.244
like – I know people hate

1:32:19.305 --> 1:32:20.305
like we're on Friday night,

1:32:20.345 --> 1:32:21.966
but usually a Friday night game,

1:32:22.027 --> 1:32:23.148
you're going to get two to

1:32:23.188 --> 1:32:26.030
four million dives on you, maybe more.

1:32:26.551 --> 1:32:26.970
But, yeah.

1:32:27.471 --> 1:32:27.992
But overall –

1:32:32.494 --> 1:32:34.296
This isn't a terrible schedule.

1:32:34.336 --> 1:32:36.737
The flow is okay.

1:32:37.136 --> 1:32:38.497
It's not as bad as it could be.

1:32:38.556 --> 1:32:39.818
It's not as good as it could be.

1:32:39.877 --> 1:32:42.078
It's definitely manageable

1:32:42.118 --> 1:32:43.960
because there's really only

1:32:45.000 --> 1:32:46.360
one team on this schedule

1:32:46.381 --> 1:32:48.280
that on paper is better than us.

1:32:49.481 --> 1:32:50.101
Technically two.

1:32:50.561 --> 1:32:51.823
Who's the second one?

1:32:52.502 --> 1:32:53.805
Miami's technically on paper

1:32:53.845 --> 1:32:54.445
better than us.

1:32:54.787 --> 1:32:55.387
I disagree.

1:32:55.847 --> 1:32:56.469
Them motherfuckers don't

1:32:56.488 --> 1:32:57.149
know how to coach them.

1:32:57.730 --> 1:32:58.773
They decide they're going to

1:32:58.792 --> 1:33:00.255
run the ball on third down

1:33:00.295 --> 1:33:00.916
and all you got to do is

1:33:00.956 --> 1:33:01.676
take a knee to win.

1:33:01.957 --> 1:33:03.059
I disagree that they are

1:33:03.099 --> 1:33:03.961
better than us on paper.

1:33:05.947 --> 1:33:06.407
I don't know.

1:33:06.707 --> 1:33:07.768
I understand what Curtis is

1:33:07.787 --> 1:33:08.488
coming from when he's

1:33:08.529 --> 1:33:09.449
talking about the average,

1:33:09.489 --> 1:33:10.990
probably average ranking of

1:33:11.030 --> 1:33:12.412
recruits and things like that.

1:33:12.992 --> 1:33:15.354
But I understand what Brian

1:33:15.373 --> 1:33:16.255
is coming from because

1:33:16.295 --> 1:33:17.735
we're looking at actual

1:33:17.815 --> 1:33:19.957
production and what we have coming back.

1:33:20.177 --> 1:33:20.797
You know what I'm saying?

1:33:20.837 --> 1:33:21.519
So I get that.

1:33:21.538 --> 1:33:21.958
Thank you.

1:33:23.039 --> 1:33:23.740
But yeah, yeah.

1:33:23.780 --> 1:33:24.440
No, no, no.

1:33:24.560 --> 1:33:26.122
I understand both ways of

1:33:26.462 --> 1:33:27.283
where we're going.

1:33:27.342 --> 1:33:29.324
But like I said, kind of

1:33:30.949 --> 1:33:32.511
going back to what Curtis says, man,

1:33:32.551 --> 1:33:34.471
like just digging in and looking at that,

1:33:34.712 --> 1:33:35.672
at that schedule,

1:33:36.353 --> 1:33:38.475
like Rutgers is going to be physical.

1:33:38.494 --> 1:33:40.036
That's going to be a physical game.

1:33:40.576 --> 1:33:42.136
And then to go out of that

1:33:42.176 --> 1:33:43.337
and then go to Miami.

1:33:43.417 --> 1:33:43.797
Yes.

1:33:44.738 --> 1:33:45.179
Oh man.

1:33:45.658 --> 1:33:47.301
But I just had a,

1:33:47.381 --> 1:33:50.962
like a flashback of us

1:33:51.082 --> 1:33:52.304
playing Rutgers this year.

1:33:53.625 --> 1:33:55.065
I think they beat us and had

1:33:55.126 --> 1:33:56.405
like 40 yards passing.

1:33:56.827 --> 1:33:57.027
Yeah.

1:33:57.766 --> 1:33:59.448
No, it's crazy.

1:33:59.969 --> 1:34:00.208
Like,

1:34:01.404 --> 1:34:03.045
That ain't going down any lane this year,

1:34:03.064 --> 1:34:03.305
man.

1:34:03.465 --> 1:34:03.685
No.

1:34:03.704 --> 1:34:04.985
I don't know how that game is going to go,

1:34:05.025 --> 1:34:06.305
but that game ain't going like that.

1:34:06.326 --> 1:34:07.206
It ain't going like that.

1:34:07.265 --> 1:34:08.345
And I'll tell you something else,

1:34:08.586 --> 1:34:11.686
is that the team that could

1:34:11.707 --> 1:34:12.907
have played Rutgers in this

1:34:12.947 --> 1:34:13.846
spot this year is a

1:34:13.907 --> 1:34:14.726
completely different team

1:34:14.747 --> 1:34:16.167
than played them in this spot last year.

1:34:16.188 --> 1:34:18.408
Oh, yeah, definitely.

1:34:18.868 --> 1:34:19.608
And Curtis will be talking

1:34:19.648 --> 1:34:21.769
about Miami in that bowl

1:34:21.809 --> 1:34:23.088
game in the Penn State Bowl.

1:34:23.748 --> 1:34:24.788
Rutgers beat Miami.

1:34:25.088 --> 1:34:26.029
Rutgers beat Miami.

1:34:26.088 --> 1:34:27.789
We had the same record overall.

1:34:28.109 --> 1:34:29.029
Rutgers beat Miami.

1:34:29.409 --> 1:34:30.050
They are not.

1:34:31.648 --> 1:34:33.509
If we're just talking recruiting rankings,

1:34:33.569 --> 1:34:35.029
if we're just talking recruiting, yeah,

1:34:35.069 --> 1:34:35.869
talent, fine.

1:34:36.030 --> 1:34:36.671
Talent, fine.

1:34:37.150 --> 1:34:37.650
But on paper,

1:34:37.671 --> 1:34:38.652
they're not a better team than us.

1:34:38.692 --> 1:34:39.112
There we go.

1:34:39.171 --> 1:34:39.591
There we go.

1:34:39.792 --> 1:34:39.912
Okay.

1:34:39.972 --> 1:34:40.993
All right.

1:34:41.233 --> 1:34:44.414
Boys, we done went hour and 30.

1:34:44.814 --> 1:34:45.194
What else?

1:34:45.456 --> 1:34:46.676
Y'all got anything else out

1:34:46.695 --> 1:34:48.117
there for tonight?

1:34:49.028 --> 1:34:50.668
Man, I'm just thankful to be back, man.

1:34:50.708 --> 1:34:51.529
Thankful to be back.

1:34:51.588 --> 1:34:52.529
I feel like it's been a

1:34:53.109 --> 1:34:54.711
month or four months.

1:34:54.730 --> 1:34:56.912
With so many extra days

1:34:56.952 --> 1:34:58.072
between episodes with the

1:34:58.131 --> 1:34:59.872
offseason and then you missing one,

1:34:59.953 --> 1:35:01.533
it feels like it's been, you know,

1:35:01.573 --> 1:35:02.753
a month and a half.

1:35:02.795 --> 1:35:04.715
It feels like it's been a long time, man.

1:35:04.755 --> 1:35:05.576
It's good to be back.

1:35:06.076 --> 1:35:06.916
I want to give a shout out

1:35:06.935 --> 1:35:07.676
to all the people who've

1:35:07.697 --> 1:35:08.837
been reaching out to me, man,

1:35:08.896 --> 1:35:09.957
asking about my son,

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just keeping me encouraged.

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You know, all of my family on Twitter,

1:35:15.039 --> 1:35:16.140
Facebook, Instagram,

1:35:16.788 --> 1:35:18.328
youtube all of you guys has

1:35:18.368 --> 1:35:19.869
reached out man definitely

1:35:19.909 --> 1:35:21.850
appreciate it uh definitely

1:35:21.930 --> 1:35:22.789
you know even if I don't

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get back to you right then

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I do see it I want to say

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thank you uh to the drones

1:35:27.770 --> 1:35:29.671
family man from from kevin

1:35:29.692 --> 1:35:32.591
to tyron to miss drones all

1:35:32.612 --> 1:35:33.953
of them man great family

1:35:34.033 --> 1:35:35.432
thank you know very

1:35:35.493 --> 1:35:36.893
thankful for them uh

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reaching out and just

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giving their condolences

1:35:39.654 --> 1:35:41.154
and everything as well for

1:35:41.194 --> 1:35:43.055
my son's injury and shout

1:35:43.074 --> 1:35:44.994
out to kyron for coming on man and and

1:35:45.619 --> 1:35:47.381
spending his time just

1:35:47.881 --> 1:35:49.083
talking to three old guys

1:35:49.144 --> 1:35:50.085
about how much we love

1:35:50.104 --> 1:35:51.286
Virginia Tech football.

1:35:51.586 --> 1:35:51.787
Exactly.

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So, man, it's been awesome, man.

1:35:54.448 --> 1:35:55.210
2024 is here.

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You know what I'm saying?

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It's already, you know, almost the middle.

1:35:59.875 --> 1:36:01.337
I hope everybody's got their

1:36:02.497 --> 1:36:04.079
Valentine's stuff picked out.

1:36:05.100 --> 1:36:06.900
Guys, girls out there,

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if you ain't got reservations,

1:36:09.041 --> 1:36:10.282
you need to get on that shit fast.

1:36:10.381 --> 1:36:11.521
I walked through Walmart

1:36:11.542 --> 1:36:12.742
today and I seen all kind

1:36:12.782 --> 1:36:14.023
of like little bears on the

1:36:14.063 --> 1:36:15.243
floor and stuff like that.

1:36:15.323 --> 1:36:17.804
So I hope y'all got your stuff ready, man,

1:36:17.823 --> 1:36:18.904
because it's coming up quick.

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I got my wife taking a trip,

1:36:20.944 --> 1:36:21.784
so I'm excited.

1:36:22.465 --> 1:36:23.605
Where you going?

1:36:24.025 --> 1:36:25.546
I can't tell because my wife

1:36:25.565 --> 1:36:26.246
might be listening.

1:36:26.345 --> 1:36:27.867
It's a complete surprise.

1:36:27.886 --> 1:36:28.247
Oh, okay.

1:36:28.346 --> 1:36:28.987
Put it in the chat.

1:36:29.006 --> 1:36:31.228
She can't see that.

1:36:31.268 --> 1:36:32.007
He's doing it big.

1:36:32.328 --> 1:36:33.188
He is going big.

1:36:33.307 --> 1:36:34.729
I got my son's birthday on the 12th.

1:36:35.378 --> 1:36:37.823
I got Valentine's Day, of course,

1:36:37.842 --> 1:36:38.264
the 14th.

1:36:38.323 --> 1:36:39.966
Then I got my wife's birthday on the 27th.

1:36:40.086 --> 1:36:40.948
Oh, my God.

1:36:42.149 --> 1:36:43.631
Every February.

1:36:43.652 --> 1:36:44.774
You broke every February.

1:36:44.974 --> 1:36:46.296
Yeah, definitely.

1:36:46.395 --> 1:36:46.817
Definitely.

1:36:47.233 --> 1:36:49.675
You sound like me December

1:36:49.694 --> 1:36:52.777
to January 25th when I got kids' birthday,

1:36:53.216 --> 1:36:54.637
Christmas, wife's birthday,

1:36:54.757 --> 1:36:55.599
other kids' birthday.

1:36:55.979 --> 1:36:56.800
Yeah.

1:36:56.840 --> 1:36:57.701
Have fun with that.

1:36:57.900 --> 1:36:59.021
I'm broke at the end of the year.

1:36:59.042 --> 1:36:59.761
All right.

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Well, boys,

1:37:00.363 --> 1:37:01.682
let's wrap up this episode of

1:37:01.743 --> 1:37:03.164
the Boundary Corner Podcast

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brought to you by Main

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Street Pharmacy in Blacksburg.

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I'm Brian Seigla.

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As always,

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we let our buddy Jason Long down

1:37:40.423 --> 1:37:41.404
in the New River Valley.

1:37:41.903 --> 1:37:45.304
play us in and play us out.

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I know he messaged us the other week,

1:37:47.484 --> 1:37:47.904
Brian,

1:37:47.944 --> 1:37:49.524
that he is going to get back into

1:37:49.564 --> 1:37:50.945
the swing of doing some

1:37:50.985 --> 1:37:53.186
gigs now that wrestling season's over.

1:37:53.886 --> 1:37:55.766
He's got a second mix finish.

1:37:56.328 --> 1:37:57.127
The Farmer's Market?

1:37:57.167 --> 1:37:57.847
We back at Granite?

1:37:58.268 --> 1:37:59.368
Is he back at Granite?

1:38:01.667 --> 1:38:03.469
Let's see what we got here.

1:38:04.449 --> 1:38:05.530
He's doing stuff down at the

1:38:05.570 --> 1:38:06.192
Farmer's Market.

1:38:06.212 --> 1:38:08.274
He was down there last weekend.

1:38:08.654 --> 1:38:10.375
So likely down at the Farmer

1:38:10.414 --> 1:38:11.555
Market down in Granite

1:38:11.697 --> 1:38:12.997
Village in Roanoke.

1:38:13.018 --> 1:38:13.557
So check him out.

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And you know what?

1:38:14.359 --> 1:38:15.500
And you know what else, Curtis,

1:38:15.560 --> 1:38:16.480
before we get out of here?

1:38:17.270 --> 1:38:17.470
Man,

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we got to give a shout out to young Jack,

1:38:19.430 --> 1:38:19.711
man.

1:38:20.390 --> 1:38:20.810
Yes.

1:38:21.171 --> 1:38:22.311
Jack, no me off.

1:38:22.912 --> 1:38:24.631
He is doing his thing.

1:38:25.393 --> 1:38:26.893
He is putting out some fire

1:38:26.953 --> 1:38:27.953
graphics right now.

1:38:28.673 --> 1:38:30.173
That's our young guy that's

1:38:30.234 --> 1:38:31.253
behind the scenes.

1:38:31.935 --> 1:38:32.734
Hey,

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we might have a face reveal and show

1:38:34.274 --> 1:38:35.195
y'all Jack one day.

1:38:35.756 --> 1:38:37.176
Just know we got some stuff working.

1:38:37.216 --> 1:38:39.117
Jack is doing his thing in the background.

1:38:39.497 --> 1:38:40.577
so a lot of the graphics

1:38:40.596 --> 1:38:41.556
that you guys are seeing a

1:38:41.617 --> 1:38:42.518
lot of the shorts that you

1:38:42.537 --> 1:38:44.037
guys are seeing jack's

1:38:44.057 --> 1:38:45.757
doing a great job man just

1:38:45.797 --> 1:38:46.578
definitely want to give him

1:38:46.639 --> 1:38:48.259
uh give him a shout out and

1:38:48.279 --> 1:38:49.139
tell him we appreciate it

1:38:49.519 --> 1:38:50.738
yeah jack we do appreciate

1:38:50.779 --> 1:38:51.960
man those reels you put out

1:38:52.020 --> 1:38:53.819
last week I mean it pop up

1:38:53.880 --> 1:38:55.720
and it was just it captured

1:38:56.140 --> 1:38:56.701
it captured the

1:38:56.761 --> 1:38:58.360
conversation the stuff you

1:38:58.381 --> 1:38:59.360
put in the background look

1:38:59.440 --> 1:39:01.122
great man and you are doing

1:39:01.141 --> 1:39:02.381
a hell of a job and we

1:39:02.462 --> 1:39:03.301
really appreciate it

1:39:03.322 --> 1:39:06.722
because we working you know

1:39:08.024 --> 1:39:09.404
eight to seven some days.

1:39:09.505 --> 1:39:12.286
So Jack, you keep it up, man.

1:39:12.365 --> 1:39:14.127
Cause we know where you want to go.

1:39:14.207 --> 1:39:15.408
And with the way you got the

1:39:15.448 --> 1:39:16.108
stuff looking here,

1:39:16.148 --> 1:39:16.868
you're going to get there.

1:39:16.889 --> 1:39:17.908
All right.

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Anything else, boys?

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Oh, we good, man.

1:39:20.610 --> 1:39:21.570
We got a ride, man.

1:39:22.051 --> 1:39:23.992
We thank you guys for always listening.

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And as always, let's go.

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Hokies.