This week BCP is bringing you their first ever Dream Team. In part 1 we are focusing on offense. We're picking one quarterback, two tight ends, seven offensive linemen, five wide receivers, and three running backs to represent the best Virginia Tech offense imaginable. You think we're wrong? Let us know in the comments.

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Music.
And welcome back to the Boundary

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Corner Podcast, a part of the
College Huddle Network along

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with my partners, Brian Siegler,
Jonathan Talley and Shelton

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Moss.
I am Curtis Wilson and we are

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brought to you by Doctor Jeremy
Counts down at the Counts Family

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Pharmacy, your family
Neighborhood Pharmacy, three O 1

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S Main St. in the Blacksburg.
Hey, everybody's back.

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What's up?
Full boat.

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Let's go.
What's wrong?

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How's everybody doing this
evening, Tally?

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Mornington weather, we got
tornado warnings all around.

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So if y'all lose me, y'all
better send the authorities,

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make sure I'm all right down
here.

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It's a tornado warning every day
in in Huntsville.

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So I mean, I ain't saying that
it ain't real because they are

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real, but it's just like I can
only get in that safe space so

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many times, you know what I'm
saying?

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Too big to be in that little
bitty spot.

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Tally, I'm not going to send the
authorities.

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I'm going to send Glenn Powell
after you that.

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That'd be fine come.
On Take care of you.

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Send send them all.
And, and welcome back Shelton.

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We have not seen Shelton that
much basically since February.

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Shelton, how you doing?
I mean, season's over finally,

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right?
Yep, I've been, I've been busy

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with college baseball season,
which takes up all my time, but

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it's good to be back.
We were in, we were in

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Charleston last weekend for the
conference tournament, which was

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it was good.
I mean, we didn't do on the

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field, but that did not prevent
me from having a good time in

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Charleston.
So glad that's all wrapped up

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now and I got a bunch of free
time.

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So how would it be happy to be
back on for the summer?

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Awesome.
Well, love that you had a good

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time down in Charleston.
Great city, great food, great

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running place, great drinks.
I'll be going there in a month.

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So how?
Many times.

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Are you going this year, Curtis?
How many times is your mom going

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this?
Year my mom, like, is on.

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She just got back today, which
was trip #3 to Charleston.

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She's going in a month with us.
That's going to be trip #4 and I

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think she's going one time near
the end of the summer.

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My mom's going to Charleston
five times this year.

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Now there's family down there.
My aunt lives down there, my

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cousins live down there.
So I'm, I'm, I'm my, my cousins,

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both him, he graduated South
Carolina.

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His son is a junior down there.
I'm expecting them to just give

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me so much shit leading up to
Atlanta.

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Like I'm I'm already prepared
for it.

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So here's what it is.
Let's hope we got some shit to

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give back to him come into
August.

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Nice.
That'd be nice.

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That'd be nice.
So everybody's good here, Brian,

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What have you been up to?
I know you sent some good

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bourbon.
Did you send Tally the bourbon

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picture, by the way?
I think you.

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I didn't.
I got I got to send it that way.

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Yeah, we had some good bourbon
down at the in laws this

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weekend.
Thursday I bought a Jeep so.

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Got a Jeep?
Oh.

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Willis, 2020.
Twenty.

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Oh, you got a real Jeep.
Oh, got a Wrangler.

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You got a real Jeep?
Yeah, yeah.

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Yeah.
It's pretty cool, man.

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Jeeps are a lot of fun, so make
sure you don't have too much

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fun, you old.
Don't be out here.

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I'm going to have a little fun
jumping.

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Don't be out here jumping hills
and sand dunes and stuff like

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that because it'll do it,
especially at Willis.

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Yes, Sir.
Yes, Sir.

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It looks good.
I've seen the picture of it, it

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looks good.
I got.

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Rims on it, Yeah, yeah.
Isn't that nice?

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I got the the the Stingray.
Yeah.

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Oh yeah, that's good.
You just go ahead and get the

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picture and share it so
everybody can see your new whip

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man.
I mean, I got to, I got, I got

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told about it last Thursday and
got to see it last.

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I hadn't seen it in person yet.
I don't know if you're coming

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over this week, but if you are,
I do, I'm going to take a break,

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go see the new Jeep.
If not, I'll see it in two

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weeks.
So absolutely.

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So obviously we're back.
You know, it's the summer law

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week here, week there.
We're on, we're off.

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And tonight, before we get into
what the episode's all about,

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there are two things I want to
break down real quick.

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First of all, if y'all did not
see, I think they finally

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rounded out the strength and
conditioning tab and they hired

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Jeffrey Eden just a few days
ago.

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Guys been all over the country
as a some sort of athletic

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trainer, athletic director,
strength and conditioning coach.

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But that picture, I sent it to
the chat, first thing Tally

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screams is.
He look mean.

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He look mean.
He does look mean then.

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Strength and conditioning
coaches have a certain look that

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you just don't want to mess with
them.

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Certain ones, you know what I'm
saying?

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So they got a couple on that
staff that I probably wouldn't,

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wouldn't want to piss off.
If they say lift the weight, I'm

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probably going to try to lift
the weight.

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I'm trying to get it up.
Yeah, I think, I think between

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him and Ferg, the way they look
at you, I could be pretty

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motivated to lift some weights.
Damn right, damn right.

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Let me see.
Oh that's right, he came from

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Miami and by looking you can he
follows the Hokies more than he

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does Miami.
Y'all know?

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That I know he got all kind of
maroon with.

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You he had by Miami and Oregon
too, right?

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He was at Oregon for a bit.
He was at Oregon for a bit as

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well.
Now, Shelton, you got some

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Intel, a little bit of insight,
couple guys you know had good

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things to say about him,
correct?

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Yeah, just a little shout out
our our Strengthos chair at WNM

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who I I work with, I go the way
a lot just, you know, see him

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around a lot.
He has some high praise for him.

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So again, I mean that's kind of
just, you know, you know, giving

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a little bit of a shout on
Congrats, but I thought that was

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to see kind of the Interstate
mingling there.

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Give me a shout out for the for
the hire.

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Yeah, it's it's cool to see that
they round the staff out.

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It looks like it's a staff of
obviously Ferg.

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He felt like he he deserved
probably a chance a few years

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ago he brought in some some some
fellow Hokies back along with

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some new blood in there.
So it's good to see that.

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And I think the staff is now
done right.

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There ain't nobody else to hire
a fire.

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I mean, there's always people to
fire, but you know that that

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that depends on I think, I think
if they're.

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Hiring anyone at this point,
they're hiring new positions.

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Yeah, which we need.
So we'll we'll we'll go ahead

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and say that the other piece I
wanted to hit is it looks like

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this is going to take place and
I just want to get y'all's

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opinions on it.
Is College Football Playoff

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tally.
Make the joke, Kurt.

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We ain't going to be there.
So why you care about it?

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I care about it on your ass.
But we are no longer conference

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championships.
Doesn't matter anymore, you win,

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you still in the top five are
still in.

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But now it's just that straight
seating down, you know, 1 to 16

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because that's the way it's
going to look 1 to 12 probably

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this year.
Y'all like y'all hate y'all

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don't give a damn.
It's fair.

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It's not fair because it did
feel like in my opinion, Oregon

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just got job last year getting
lined up with Ohio State.

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Let me ask this, would you
prefer having the conference

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champion be in regardless but
it's still be seated based on

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committee, or would you rather
every conference get one

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automatic bid regardless of
whether they're conference

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champion or not?
Same seating.

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Give me a second.
I've also lost communication

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here.
I don't know man.

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I'm just, I guess, do we care
enough about conference

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championship as long as one
conference is every conference,

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Every P4 conference is getting
an automatic bid anyway.

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I think as long as they get
automatic bids, I think that's

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that's it.
It's to me, I think it as long

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as you get the bid in, I don't
think it should matter one way

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or the other.
I mean the the way.

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Well, yeah, you see, Chris.
Chris on our ass.

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Hey, I asked a good question.
Everybody was dumbstruck.

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And we were dumbstruck here.
Yeah, that's a good question.

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But it's just like Curtis, I
mean, I don't know, man.

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Like if you're getting to be it.
You get a bid.

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You get to be it.
It's you get a seat at the.

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The bigger part about it is
getting a seat at the table,

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right?
That's the most important part.

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As long as there is a seat at
the table in the correct manner,

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then it doesn't matter because
people can say, well, you got to

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go this many games and you got
to play this team like, OK, what

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if you beat that team right like
that, That's the goal is to win.

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People say, well, that's a
tougher path.

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Like you say what you won't say
what Ohio State did they they

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had to play Tennessee that in
that stadium was not that

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stadium was 7030 like they did
not have a full home field

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advantage.
Then you got they had to go to

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the Rose Bowl with Oregon off a
bat.

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Yep, they played Oregon tight
and then they beat that ass and

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then the next game was the Texas
game.

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It doesn't matter.
You're going to have to be 4

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probably very good teams to win
the national title from now on.

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So you have to play somebody,
you have to play somebody good.

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I mean, some somebody's role
could be easier, but you have to

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play somebody good to get there
anyway.

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So it's like you got to be built
to win when you get to that

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position anyway.
So it's like it don't it don't

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matter.
It does matter, but it don't

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matter who you playing first.
It don't matter as much because

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you're going to have to, you got
to win to get there, so.

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My my thought is that, like the
conference championships in my

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mind mattered more when it had
to be the differentiator of

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potentially who represented your
conference in a fourteen playoff

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or I agree or, you know, would
you be going to a fourteen

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playoff because of your
conference championship game?

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And, and, and I think that that
matters so much less now that I

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mean, even we saw it this year,
like a lot of teams that had

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stuff locked up, like almost
didn't want to play the game,

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but you know, did because it's
like, well, I, I, you know,

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there, there was something
attached to it.

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But I don't think it really
matters so much from a who's in

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or who's out because one of the
more than likely if a team would

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have, would have been in before
the conference championship,

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they're going to be in after the
conference championship.

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So you're basically, I think in
some ways undermining the

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regular season because you're
throwing in a potential

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conference champion that maybe
didn't have the resume to do it

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because of that automatic bid.
Sheldon, I want to say

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something, but I want to give
you a moment if you've got

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anything to add.
Yeah, I mean, as as someone who

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grew up watching FCS football,
who kind of has a different

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perspective on this, just seeing
a much more, you know, well

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structured playoff.
I I think conference title games

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like Brian was alluding to made
sense in a bowl and for and

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limited playoff system.
They do not make any sense in an

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expanded playoff system because
you've are, I mean,

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theoretically you like you
should, you should be in if you

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win the regular season.
That's the, that's the reward

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for, for being good in the
season is, you know, the, the

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auto bid for, for winning an 8
or 9 game regular season.

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So I just, I mean, but, but
again, they make money.

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So it's like they're not going
to get rid of it, but it plays

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into the seeding.
I don't know.

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getting rid of the auto bids,
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people are going to complain
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favoritism to the SEC and big 10
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OK, so they can, they can put
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seed at the zoo seed.
So that's kind of a try it off

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you make there.
See, my bigger point is you

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really want to make the regular
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here.
I'm going to throw it up here

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What Jim said.

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If you win your regular and it's
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season P4 title, you don't need
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You don't need to play
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know it's being floated, it's
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Big 12, in the ACC and somewhat
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regular season.
You went eight and one won't

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nobody as good as you in the
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You're in your regular and then
say now to get that next seeding

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or to get the next two seedings,
OK, you got to go win another

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game.
You ain't going to just get

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shoved in.
You've actually got to do

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something to prove it.
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That makes the regular season
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Win the regular season title,
get a buy or you're straight

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into the playoff.
You ain't got to play another

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because it's stupid as it
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And I always say this, some
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Tech was last year at the
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Listen, you win all your you win
the rest of your games.

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You went out.
You have a chance to play your

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way in.
Let me ask you, regular season

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more.
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Let me ask you this though.
So what I don't like about that

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is that now you're going to
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larges that didn't have to play
an extra game that those two

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seeds in the conference did,
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So in theory, I mean, most of
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large was probably playing in
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But there's only some instances

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where that was not the case.
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I mean, I mean, no, no systems
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know, the upside is likely
they're going to have to go on

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the road.
I'd much rather go ahead and

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start the playoffs earlier than
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So you're just saying regular
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next best way?
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that's how you get the automatic
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Right.
And go ahead and start the day

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in playoffs so you can have more
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actually play out on campus as
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them to the bowls in the latter
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latter. 3 Yep, exactly.
And nobody gets about, I mean.

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If we're going to 16, that's the
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Just straight basically after
Thanksgiving that weekend, man.

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This isn't November.
Yeah, the first week, Yeah, the

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first weekend most time would be
in November or early December,

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right?
Like chaos, chaos on.

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It'll be either.
The last weekend of November.

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Or the first chaos.
Christmas chaos.

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Exactly.
All righty.

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So I always like to talk about
that stuff because that's going

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to be the future college
football, whether you like it or

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not, because money rules
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It's cream, y'all know it.
That's your smile.

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Like Cali caught that.
It's.

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All that matters nowadays.
So let's roll on and let's have

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some fun tonight because for
those who were catching it

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beforehand, Brian, I'll let you
put the little thing up here.

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This is something I've been
wanting to do for about 3 years

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now, maybe longer, but I've
always wanted to do something

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where you sit here and you talk
about you had to put a dream

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team together and let's get into
that first.

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What is a dream team?
Brian?

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You posed a question to us three
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have the floor.
But what's a dream team in your

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opinion?
And then Shelton Tally myself

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will answer that as well.
All right, to me, a dream team

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is not a team that where you're
saying I want the absolute

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highest achieving player at this
position to go out there.

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A dream team to me is I want the
best overall team, the team and

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the players of each position
that I would be willing to put

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up against.
The best from an Alabama, the

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best from Michigan, the best
from Penn State.

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Like if if we were taking this
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games with this team, this is
the person I would want at these

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positions.
So this isn't necessary.

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Like stats play into this, but
this is not a who has the best

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numbers, who looked the most
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It it's it's about who would you
put on this team to go out there

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and and, and play against these
other best teams from these

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other schools.
That's how I was looking at it

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when I built my team.
So I'll let someone go next who

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wants to explain what they did
in their process.

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Yeah, similar, similar thing.
But you're also for me whenever

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you're talking about dream team,
because it always comes up with

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like basketball, of course,
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But when you talk about a dream
team, it's also who you enjoy

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watching play like who you enjoy
or you know, who you were able

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to see play.
So maybe it was somebody back in

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the 1900s that I didn't watch
play that was much better than

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anybody that we seen.
So you know, it's you always get

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the, the, the LeBron, Kobe,
Jordan argument, right?

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I'm a Kobe guy, like Kobe is my
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That's why I watch play the
most.

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I thought he was.
I'm not saying he was the best

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player.
I'm not saying he was the most

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dominant.
I'm not saying he's the best NBA

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player ever.
I'm just saying like if I'm

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starting a dream team, he's
going to be he's going to be at

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my 2.
So comes down to a lot of what

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Brian said, but also a throw in
the aspect of who you enjoyed

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watching or who you have some
who you have some history of

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watching.
Sheldon.

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Yeah, I mean, I, I tried to find
a balance between like, you

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know, pure production and raw
talents because I, I just think,

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you know, some guys like they
they'll they'll put up numbers,

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but maybe aren't necessarily
like, you know, the best player

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or, you know, they might be the
most talented, but they don't.

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I got like Cam Chancellor, he
didn't necessarily show that,

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you know, right away.
And obviously it goes on to have

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a really good, productive NFL
career, but doesn't really, you

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know, blossom at that particular
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So for me, it's like it's just
pure ability and and, you know,

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production and talent, the
combination of that, you know,

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like Brian said, can you
actually win me a football game

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against it?
That's the best.

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That to me is sort of the the
the standard from which I judge.

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Yeah, y'all, y'all summed up in
so many ways and that's what

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went through my head.
Raw talent, statistics.

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I like what talent said who I
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Y'all see that come in later
because it's it's one thing, but

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it then it's elements of their
game right, You know, because

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certain guys did certain things
better than other guys and

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you're like you've got to have
that certain guys were just

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straight up dogs like I want
that guy playing like that guy's

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not going to let somebody beat
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That guy's not going to get
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So it's a lot of fun.
This is the first of two because

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tonight we're doing the offense.
We're going to figure out when

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we're going to do the defense
because Tally's going on a

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cruise, Shelton's going to
Arizona, I'm going to

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Charleston's bronze staycation
in multiple places this summer.

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So we're going to find a second
one to do the defense.

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But tonight, we are starting
with the offense and I know we

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got a lot of folks watching out
there tonight.

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Feel free to put in the comments
yours and this is kind of the

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breakdown.
One quarterback.

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Yep, one quarterback.
I know everybody's like what

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about two deep one quarterback
because your one quarterback

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ankle never come out.
Y'all know that?

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Tight ends, we went two, wide
receivers we went five, lineman,

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we went seven because legitimate
Brian can attest to this from

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playing in college.
Tally probably can attest to it

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and Shelton probably can attest
to it.

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We all can attest to it.
Usually you're rotating about 7

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lineman, yo 7 best lineman are
going to play at some point and

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then running backs 3.
Andretti, you didn't got defense

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on there, man.
This is just offense tonight.

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Just offense and don't worry,
we're going to pull it up here

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in just a second.
Robbie with the exciting whites.

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The exciting white.
Yeah, hold on.

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Not a black man Insight, Robin.
You got the ginger on me.

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So let's start it up, Brian.
Bring up the first category here

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and we are starting with the
quarterbacks.

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And I'm going to lead the charge
on this one because in my

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personal opinion, and we're
going to go through all four of

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us and then start arguing and
cursing and letting people get

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pissed off at us in the chat.
My personal opinion?

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There's only one Mr. Electricity
MV7.

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Michael Vick will be my card and
quarterback for this dream team,

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Ron.
Yeah, I I went through a couple

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of different scenarios here, but
it came down to from just an

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overall ability standpoint, who
would I trust to spin it in a

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game?
And it's got to be Mike Vick.

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Tally.
So everybody knows Michael Vick

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is my favorite player.
So I mean, it's only one answer

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that really can go in this.
But I did not pick him.

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I did not pick Michael Vick
because that was the obvious

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answer.
And in my mind, I say it if

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Michael Vick's not available,
because everybody's going to

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pick Michael Vick, who would I
go with?

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And I had to go with Jerrod
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Not only that, if you think
about what Jerrod did, and I

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know we'll talk about it a
little bit, you go back and look

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at his production, who's off the
charts, man?

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Like, I don't think Virginia
Tech seen a quarterback.

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I know we ain't seen a
quarterback do what he done ever

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in a long time, you know?
So I had to go with Jerrod Man

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to go all.
Right and Shelton.

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Yeah, so I went, I became a
little bit of a contrarian here.

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I went tie rod and not saying
not saying it's better than NV

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7, but I just think from a, from
a pure passing production

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standpoint, I really like him.
I also think, you know, he he

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just had such an insane work
ethic and leadership ability

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that that's the guy I went
leading my team.

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So no disrespect to NV 7, but I
I just think he was a guy that I

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want in that, you know, that
winner take all situation to to

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lead my team.
I will caveat by Michael Vick

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pick in that more than any other
Virginia Tech quarterback we we

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got to see what Mike could do
after Virginia Tech.

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Right.
And I think because of that, we

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know where not only we saw how
he impacted the quarterback

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position both at the college and
the NFL level, but we also saw

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how he grew as a quarterback
because of what he was able to

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do in the next level, right?
So we we know where his ceiling

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is a lot more than I think we
know.

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Jerrod in particular, obviously
Tyrod to a lesser extent with

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him having some starting
experience in the NFL, but but

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still more of a limited role
throughout his career.

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By the way, if if everybody's
wondering because I had to look

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it up with Jerrod Evans when
Tally sent me this one year,

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3500 yards, 29 touchdown passes,
8 picks, 846 rushing yards and

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12 touchdowns.
Above. 40 touchdowns accounted

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for 8 picks.
The man.

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I mean, that season he had back
in 16 was unbelievable.

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And that's why it's like I, you
know, I wouldn't tell him

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playing on that.
And, and, and for me, it wasn't

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Jerrod, but Shelton.
I was like fencing between

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Victoria and Taylor because it
was 2 separate times in my life.

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Mike Vick, I was 16 years old
and that season was like, you

444
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,600
know, you, you go back and think
about the memories being 16.

445
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:19,960
Now I'm 41, yeah, 41.
And it's and it's like, Oh my

446
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,040
gosh, that was still
unbelievable things I've seen.

447
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:27,080
But Tyrod was in my mid 20s and
winning ACC titles.

448
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:31,000
Knowing how good it was.
I just the the one thing that'll

449
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:36,240
always get me.
It's a good question.

450
00:26:36,360 --> 00:26:39,040
Maybe we do that.
In a few, not anybody we've ever

451
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,200
had get somebody else, get
somebody from another school.

452
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,600
But I don't know Ricky Bussell,
I mean, Ricky Bussell fucked it

453
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:55,080
up the least because we'd be
honest, but but Tyrod for those

454
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,200
years in the mid 2000s, I mean,
you're right.

455
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,760
The the leadership was there,
the numbers were there.

456
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:06,320
I mean, you know, before Logan,
I mean 7000 career passing, it

457
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:13,480
was 44 touchdown, 20 picks.
And so, you know, I, I, I see

458
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:17,240
some people putting out there
Andretti's throwing some running

459
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:18,240
backs.
We're going to get there in a

460
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:19,520
little while.
Andretti cold pie.

461
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:23,360
But who is, was there anybody
else?

462
00:27:23,360 --> 00:27:25,640
Because some people I, I, I was
tally.

463
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,960
We didn't get what we expected.
I expected someone who is 10

464
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,120
years older me say drunken.
Miller I thought somebody was

465
00:27:32,120 --> 00:27:34,080
going to definitely say drunken,
Miller by now, Definitely

466
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:35,040
thought.
Somebody was going to say

467
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,880
drunken Miller.
Who else?

468
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,800
Who else?
I don't know, man.

469
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,840
Like another thing you have to
think about whenever you're

470
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,880
looking at like a dream team,
you're looking at a Virginia

471
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:50,240
Tech dream team, right?
So it's not like potential.

472
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,120
I mean, it is because it's so
hard because like you have to

473
00:27:54,120 --> 00:27:56,080
think of the overall of what
they've done.

474
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,400
But realistically, when you're
creating a dream team, you're

475
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,480
just talking about for that
team.

476
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,400
You know what I'm saying?
Once again, I go back to

477
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,640
basketball.
When you talk about the greats,

478
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:11,680
Laker fan, you think about what
Shaq did for the Lakers.

479
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,920
The Shaq that played for
Cleveland or the Celtics was a

480
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,720
different Shaq.
So he's probably not on their

481
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,640
all Time Team, but he's
definitely on the all time Laker

482
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,720
team.
So that's another reason why I

483
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,640
kind of, you know, went with
what I did.

484
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,320
Again, it would always be
Michael Vick for me because

485
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:29,880
Michael Vick is my guy like
that.

486
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,400
He is the guy.
But also when you just when

487
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,600
you're creating this, I didn't
feel like we could leave Jerrod

488
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:40,280
Evans off of this list just
because if you look at a pure

489
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,520
numbers perspective, again,
Michael Vick was the number one

490
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,000
pick, not downplaying anything
he'd done.

491
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:52,320
He had a year where he had, you
know, 8 touchdowns and six

492
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,920
picks, you know, from a
quarterback perspective,

493
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,240
throwing the ball.
And then if you look at rushing

494
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:02,240
yards, Jerrod had more rushing
yards than him in a single

495
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,440
season, which is crazy to me to
even think that that could

496
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,840
happen.
But again, that ball was much

497
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,400
different than the ball that
Jerrod played or Tyrod played or

498
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,240
even look at what Tyrod did.
He just had that it factor, you

499
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,840
know what I'm saying?
Winning games in the last second

500
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,560
and things like that.
So I can see why he's on that

501
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,040
list.
I can see why Sheldon would say

502
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:26,840
I want him to lead my team.
Again, just looking at what they

503
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,680
done in a Virginia Tech jersey
is another reason why I kind of

504
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,680
went with some of the picks that
I went with.

505
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,400
Because once you start looking
at, you know, NFL and what

506
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,800
they've done for the community
and stuff like that, Yeah, of

507
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,320
course it sways.
You know what I mean?

508
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,760
They're saying, like Brian said,
the full potential of Michael

509
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,360
Vick once he got to the league.
But.

510
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,720
What about this one?
And Jerry said he won Michael

511
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,720
Brewer.
Michael Brewer because Michael

512
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,480
Brewer wins big games in tough
plays.

513
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,680
Big game Brewer.
Big game Brewer.

514
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:01,360
I'll, I'll say this, when we
think about Mike relative to

515
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:05,200
Jerrod, I mean to some some
degree relative to Tyrod even

516
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:12,520
like put Mike in a in a spread
offense and it it would be

517
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,600
insane what his numbers would
have done.

518
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,320
Yeah.
And I mean, I know it's, you

519
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:21,160
know, it's, it's, it's, it's
hard to like look at his stats

520
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,360
relative to, to some of the
quarterbacks that played 2010

521
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,160
and later.
And it played in more open

522
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:31,920
systems that had a true focus on
generating offense on the on the

523
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,920
ground with the quarterback, but
still spread enough where

524
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,200
there's room to operate and, and
throw it as well, both short and

525
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,840
intermediate.
You know, most of what Mike was

526
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:48,600
doing was, you know, handing the
ball off some some some power

527
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,840
options and then for chucking it
deep.

528
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,400
And and just and just
scrambling.

529
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,640
He revolutionized, he
revolutionized the quarterback

530
00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,280
position.
I mean, it's nothing you you can

531
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,840
go back and watch some some
Michael Vick highlights.

532
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,680
You know how hard it had to be
to to be offensive coordinator

533
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,720
to have him as easy as some
people think it would be.

534
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,440
Like it had to be so hard
because if he goes on a bootleg

535
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,360
or he goes to roll out, you
know, he's getting to that spot

536
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,440
much faster than anybody else on
the team.

537
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,280
So he's there faster than the
wide receivers.

538
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,440
He's there.
He's sitting back there waiting

539
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,720
for somebody to get to the spot
where they need him to be.

540
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:29,400
So whatever play they drew up,
he had to I mean, he had to

541
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,800
change it like because he's he
was so fast, you know what I'm

542
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,160
saying?
He was so quick and his arm was

543
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:40,000
a rocket, so it was crazy, man.
Just that I I go back a lot of

544
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,040
times and watch some of his
highlights and it's ridiculous

545
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,720
to me that he never seems like
he's in distress, like he's

546
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,920
running full speed.
It was 19.

547
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,560
Faster than everybody on the
field.

548
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:55,640
In tally, that was 26 years ago.
That's like, that's the level in

549
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,400
where he is.
Throw that one back up there.

550
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,520
This is the one that tore
Brian's heart, too.

551
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,200
Oh yeah.
Brian Randall, I mean, great

552
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:04,440
leader.
I wanted to do it.

553
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,400
I was like, I can't.
I can't quite make the

554
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,480
justification here.
I can't quite do it.

555
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,920
I'm surprised that none of the
old heads are thrown.

556
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:17,320
Don struck out there.
We will ignore the interception

557
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,640
count in 72.
Yes, you you ignore the

558
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,880
Intercept and anybody that
played like 3/19/92, you have to

559
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,480
ignore the the interception
counts because back then you

560
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,320
could just murder wide outs and
murder quarterbacks.

561
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:34,120
People didn't care.
They do nowadays, so, but yeah,

562
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:38,800
so again, quite a few regardless
what you say, but this is who

563
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,680
this is.
Who's leading I teams out of the

564
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,280
gate.
No one took Marcus.

565
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,720
Well, you know, Jim, I'll put
that up there real quick just so

566
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:51,600
he can see it.
I'd be afraid night before the

567
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,880
game he'd do something stupid
and he'd be suspended for the

568
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,680
game so we wouldn't have a
quarterback.

569
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,240
Hey, depending on who we
playing, it's true.

570
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,080
They know who playing.
We playing Miami, I put Marcus

571
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:06,640
in, go beat them up.
Hey, kicking people, Go, go beat

572
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,280
them up, man.
Do what you want to do to them.

573
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:09,560
Oh.
Man Jr.

574
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,480
No.
Oh, man.

575
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,840
Oh, wait, we are playing.
We playing Louis?

576
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,560
Yeah, he going to go stomp on
somebody and he's going to get

577
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,160
kicked out of the game.
Let's go.

578
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,280
We playing West Virginia.
Hey, you got full range to do

579
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,080
whatever you want to do.
We just want to win.

580
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,800
If it's a rivalry game or a bowl
game, let's ride with Marcus.

581
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,160
Put him in.
Let's go all.

582
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,040
Righty, there's your
quarterback, there's your

583
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:39,840
quarterback one for the dream
team.

584
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,920
I'd love to see you guys as
y'all start hearing it, throw

585
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,440
your, throw your quarterbacks,
throw your tight ends wide outs

586
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,240
as we get to them.
All right, let's go next.

587
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,920
Let's start with tight ends.
We said we're going to do 2

588
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:53,800
tight ends.
Brian, like what about 3?

589
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,440
I'm like now 3 is too easy, 3 is
too easy.

590
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,600
So we go to Tally.
I'll let you talk about yours

591
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,560
first.
Yeah, I talked about all that

592
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:06,480
stuff, looking at what they did
in Virginia Tech jersey, and

593
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:12,679
then I put a quarterback in
Logan Thomas and Greg Boone,

594
00:34:12,679 --> 00:34:16,040
man, Now we did get to see Logan
Thomas at tight end, which is

595
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,560
his natural position.
You know, he had to get thrust

596
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:24,440
in the playing quarterback,
which did a good job at that.

597
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:28,360
But just think about if we had
Tyrod for that extra year and he

598
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,639
was a tight end, what he was
more naturally playing.

599
00:34:31,639 --> 00:34:35,400
And then Greg Boone just was
very versatile, you know what

600
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,520
I'm saying?
You watch what he did as a tight

601
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,840
end and one of the Wild Turkey
with him because he did play

602
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,320
some quarterback in high school
and things like that, like just

603
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,480
a fun player to watch.
Like if you go back and watch

604
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,520
Boone, he just was super fun to
watch Gritty.

605
00:34:50,679 --> 00:34:53,440
You know what I'm saying, Paul,
I know we hate that word, you

606
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,679
know, but oh, and somebody said,
who would your OC be?

607
00:34:56,679 --> 00:34:59,560
Man, we I think we can get
Fuente to be the OC and we'd be

608
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,440
good to go.
We don't need him to be the head

609
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,640
coach and recruit, just be the
OC and I think we'd be all

610
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:07,560
right.
So, but yeah, my back to was

611
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,760
Logan Thomas and Greg Boone all.
Right, Brian.

612
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,840
All right.
I almost went with Greg Boone in

613
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,040
place of Logan Thomas there.
So shout out Tally for that.

614
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:24,240
It needs to be studied the
quarterback to tight end

615
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:30,040
trajectory at Virginia Tech
because we've had a lot of them,

616
00:35:31,240 --> 00:35:36,120
But I I went with Jeff King.
I played against Jeff King in

617
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,440
high school.
Dude was a beast.

618
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,200
He he, he, he stayed a beast at
Virginia Tech.

619
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,520
He was pretty damn solid as an
NFL player.

620
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,800
He's doing a lot of things up in
the front office now.

621
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:52,000
So been riding with Jeff King
for a while and I went with

622
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,480
Logan Thomas here as well
because I feel like just if I

623
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,360
want to put the most versatile
guy out there that can catch the

624
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:02,240
ball, that matches up well as
kind of like a joker because I

625
00:36:02,240 --> 00:36:04,000
mean, just just more of the
blocking guy.

626
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,360
Logan's going to give me a
little bit of that joker tight

627
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:10,400
end look that I want while still
being big enough and capable

628
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,160
enough when I need some short
yardage runs.

629
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,280
So go with Logan here.
And obviously Jeff.

630
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,680
Jeff is the the stalwart that
can do a little bit of

631
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,000
everything from a tight end
perspective.

632
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:25,200
All right, Shelton.
Yeah, so I, I kind of halfway

633
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,280
punted on this.
I got, I got Lt. in there.

634
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,720
You know, in my time as a Vt
fan, which, or a Vt watcher,

635
00:36:32,720 --> 00:36:36,120
which is mostly the, the Lt.
era, which was started, we

636
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,000
haven't really had a ton of
elite tight end play.

637
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,880
And so it's, it's hard for me to
comment on, you know, on guys

638
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:45,440
that play before my, my era.
I, I personally do not consider

639
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,240
Bucky Hodges a tight end or at
least a true tight end.

640
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,440
Some people might disagree, but
that's just how I look at it.

641
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:55,000
So I got Lt. in there just, you
know, because he obviously had

642
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,760
the, had the production, But I,
I think, you know, it was more

643
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,840
kind of the earlier heyday of
the Beamer era that we kind of

644
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:02,760
had the, you know, the top tight
ends.

645
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,400
But that was just that was just
before my time.

646
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,080
There was one in your era I
thought you were going to put on

647
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:08,040
here.
I thought you were going to put

648
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,680
James Mitchell fixed on gap
because.

649
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,040
Yes, James Mitchell, again kind
of a tweener though.

650
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,760
So if you want to go like true
tight end or you know, lifted

651
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,480
tight end, you can you can
debate that.

652
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,400
All right, I'm I'm going last
here.

653
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:26,000
First one was Jeff King.
Always remember Jeff King played

654
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,280
at Pulaski, right?
Pulaski.

655
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,640
Yeah, Pulaski.
I was going to say K Spring, but

656
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,720
no, that's where the other guy
played.

657
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:41,120
And I had Logan initially and I
didn't realize what somebody did

658
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:46,600
and I went looked at some stats
and my second is the color

659
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,680
analyst.
The Greek got himself one of the

660
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,760
funnest guys to talk to.
If you ever at a Hokie event and

661
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,960
you see Mike burnup, first of
all, stop and talk to him.

662
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,480
He will talk to you.
He will give you the time of

663
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,440
day.
He's funny, he makes you laugh.

664
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,920
But did you all know he held
that tight end record till

665
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:10,120
Brookie broke it for over 40
years, almost 46 years.

666
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:18,840
And in 1971 and 1972 that man
combined for 80 receptions and

667
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,120
over 1000 yards with five
touchdowns.

668
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,160
It is 1972.
So I know he can block.

669
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:30,640
He's like 70 in the shape he's
in in his 70s puts me to shame.

670
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:36,120
In my 20s.
So I went Mikey Burnup because I

671
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,960
know he can block.
Any Jeff King to receive and

672
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:47,440
threats to smart players in but
but it's so tough because you

673
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,400
know Sheldon, you probably pull
it up real quick.

674
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,760
Can you get us what Logan did as
a tight end in the NFL?

675
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,320
Yep.
Do that real quick.

676
00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:00,000
I'm surprised no one, at least
at to this point.

677
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,000
I thought I thought Sheldon
might have thrown like a Dalton

678
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,080
Keene in there.
Yes, I I did think about Dalton

679
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,240
Keene.
I just, I just didn't.

680
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,440
I didn't want to lump him in
with the legends of the past

681
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,040
that I did not have the
privilege of watching.

682
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,040
That's fair, That's fair.
Dalton had a good career,

683
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,000
nothing wrong with that.
And if somebody threw if

684
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,120
somebody throws salmon there
because they say, you know, he

685
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,760
played H back and stuff, that's
fine as well.

686
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,920
But what did you get it up yet,
Shelton?

687
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:33,160
Yeah, so Lt. he totaled 219
catches just north of 2000 yards

688
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,600
and 16 touchdowns.
And most of his production

689
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,920
obviously came with Washington
in the last four years of his

690
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,840
career.
Four years and and just think

691
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,160
about that because he was out if
I'm not mistaken, he did not

692
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,800
play for two or three years
while he was transitioning.

693
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:53,880
Yeah to playing tight end.
So go back because Tally tally

694
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,200
Brown one of y'all said it make
sometimes voices ring together

695
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,320
about that extra year.
Tal.

696
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,720
I think you said it.
If he had played tight end that

697
00:40:01,720 --> 00:40:04,440
extra year.
Could you imagine if he had just

698
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:05,880
came in it was a tight end right
away.

699
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,360
He probably would have held
every record his his.

700
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,640
I mean, first three round draft
pick based on what he did later

701
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:22,640
in his career switching
positions, I mean that's

702
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,600
unbelievable to to do what he
did.

703
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,160
Robbie's calling us out here.
Robbie's calling us out.

704
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,480
Nothing makes sense.
We we switched everybody in

705
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,640
there.
I told you what I was doing from

706
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,400
Jump Street here.
I said I was making the team

707
00:40:39,240 --> 00:40:42,080
that I want to play against
everybody else and if I'm doing

708
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:46,960
that, the best tight end that
based on body of work that I've

709
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:51,280
seen both for Virginia Tech and
outside of Virginia Tech, I'm

710
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,200
putting Logan Thomas a tight
end.

711
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:59,480
Same.
Not saying Bucky's not a tight

712
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:03,440
end because he plays the
position, but if I'm creating a

713
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:07,680
team, I'm putting him at a wide
receiver position.

714
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,840
He was listed as a wide receiver
in Puente's offense.

715
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:16,320
Right and then the people that I
have as a wide receiver on this

716
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:20,880
dream team just fit this team
better great deep ball.

717
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,760
I mean great deep ball option
and he did AI mean great

718
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,440
production at Virginia Tech
great player.

719
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,520
So not taking anything away from
Bucky.

720
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,640
Bucky was a great player, but.
Bucky could get open and Bucky

721
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,080
could come down with a big
catch.

722
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,400
Bucky was awful after the after
the catch.

723
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,000
He got to slide.
He was going to slide down and

724
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,200
catch it like he.
Was going to get it, he was

725
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,400
going to go down or he was going
to get it and he was already in

726
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:43,480
the end zone.
Oh, yeah.

727
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:47,640
And that's OK.
So again, it's not like, you

728
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,760
know, he did anything wrong.
But it's just tight ends that

729
00:41:51,240 --> 00:41:53,400
you want.
Yeah, you want to be as a tight

730
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,920
end for me.
You want these tight ends to be

731
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,320
able to block and catch and be
versatile.

732
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:05,360
The two that I have can do that.
Just what it is.

733
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,880
And yes, Robbie Curtis can put
that up.

734
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:15,800
I'm putting it up.
Oh, everybody's in feelings

735
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,520
tonight.
Wait, listen, I do say this

736
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:22,720
before we, as we wrap up the
tight end room is every guy

737
00:42:22,720 --> 00:42:25,640
we've got on there could
probably block their asses off.

738
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:30,920
Logan showed it again in minimal
time in Washington that he was a

739
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,760
willing blocker and again,
that's going away.

740
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,360
So to me, if you can find one of
those guys that can do that,

741
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:41,120
it's unbelievable.
Let's move over to the offensive

742
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:46,840
line.
And Brian, who is your 7?

743
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:49,960
All right.
No particular order.

744
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:51,400
Actually, I'll give you in a
particular order.

745
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:58,080
This is my starting five.
Dwayne Brown, I won't put him at

746
00:42:58,080 --> 00:42:59,960
right.
I will put Christian Darrisaw at

747
00:42:59,960 --> 00:43:00,920
left.
OK.

748
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:08,760
Give me Jake at center.
Let's go white right, will left

749
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,920
and then I've got Jim Pine and
Eugene Chang coming off my bench

750
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:18,840
here.
All right, arguably the I mean,

751
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,640
I'd say not even arguably
literally the two best centers

752
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:25,880
that Virginia Tech has ever seen
on here.

753
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,680
Arguably the two best, you know,
tackles.

754
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:31,800
I'll, I'll say I'll throw 3 in
there.

755
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,440
And then you got Wyatt Taylor,
Will Montgomery, the two best

756
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:40,640
true guards that we've ever had.
So I don't think that's too

757
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,520
controversial, but that, that
that's my, that's my 7 all.

758
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:49,200
Right, Shelton.
All right, so we'll start with

759
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,840
our tackles, Dwayne Brown
pretty, pretty self-explanatory,

760
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,080
Darasaw.
I mean, again, just in my time

761
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,480
watching the most purely
talented alignment we've had,

762
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:02,440
not span, just his physical
tools, the hips, the the foot

763
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,960
speed, just incredible.
I also went with Don Oakes.

764
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,760
Now, Don Oakes is a little bit
of a throwback as a as a history

765
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:12,960
guy.
So he played at Tech back in the

766
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,840
late 1950s.
He was a NFL draft pick in 1961.

767
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,480
So I kind of just threw him in
there as kind of a bonus to give

768
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,080
a shout out to the to the old,
the old heads there.

769
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:27,920
But he's in there as a tackle.
And then Jim Pine J Grove at

770
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,720
center and then why seller and
Will Montgomery over at at the

771
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,200
at the car position.
That's kind of my my 7 there

772
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,160
all.
Right.

773
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:41,120
I'll go up next.
There's a trend here because the

774
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,640
two best tackles we've ever seen
was Dwayne Brown and Christian

775
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,520
Garrisaw.
And then it looks almost similar

776
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:51,520
to bronze.
I think Jake Grove is.

777
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,440
I think if Jake Grove had not,
what is it?

778
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,920
He fucked up his hip, right?
What did J Grove fuck up?

779
00:44:59,920 --> 00:45:02,200
Because he played like 6 years
and then all of a sudden he just

780
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,240
retired.
I mean J Grove was unbelievable

781
00:45:05,240 --> 00:45:07,120
center.
Like you don't win the Remington

782
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,400
and not be good because that's
one of those things that you

783
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:10,840
win.
It's like you're technically

784
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,080
unbelievable because they don't
give that to anybody.

785
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,840
Wyatt Teller, one of the guys
like from Jump Street from the

786
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:21,160
second he got recruited, it was
like he's going to be a great

787
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,680
player and he was a great player
and he continues to be a great

788
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,440
player.
My third one was my Switch 1.

789
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,760
I love Derek Smith.
The some of the stories we've

790
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,680
heard from Dwight talking about
Derek Smith, a leader and a

791
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:36,040
flexible guy, could play right
tackle, could play guard.

792
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:41,480
And knowing, you know, success
in the league and, you know,

793
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,920
battling cancer, knowing he's
fighting that, you know, you got

794
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,320
a dog in him.
He will make people fight.

795
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:52,200
And then the same Jim Pine, if
there had been a Remington in

796
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,040
199394, Jim Powell would have
won the Remington.

797
00:45:55,240 --> 00:45:56,520
He was the best center in the
country.

798
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,280
And Eugene Chung, one of the
more underrated guys.

799
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,720
If you look back through
history, first team, all

800
00:46:01,720 --> 00:46:05,200
American first round draft pick,
played like 7 years, coached in

801
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:10,040
the league for a while, you
know, and there's still a few

802
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:11,560
guys.
Were probably is it Chung or

803
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:12,240
Chang Chung?
Chung Chung as.

804
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:16,400
A typo I was going to.
Say we got we got both of them

805
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,600
here.
I thought somebody went, hey, I

806
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:20,080
thought we had both of them on
the team.

807
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:26,160
All right, Tally.
I literally just said whatever

808
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,440
Sheldon put, whatever Sheldon
put put it because I mean,

809
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,840
realistically for me it's Dwayne
Brown and Kristen Darasaw.

810
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,080
Then also, you know, I did want
Wyatt Taylor in there, but I

811
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,240
also did kind of want some
throwback guys, but I didn't

812
00:46:38,240 --> 00:46:40,560
really, you know, want to
because when you think about

813
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:44,760
offensive line, of course you
want some nasty, you know, we

814
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,720
just running the ball down your
throat type guys.

815
00:46:46,720 --> 00:46:51,120
So I just when Shelton put his
list up, I went back and looked

816
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,320
at some of these guys and I was
like, it's pretty good.

817
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:54,640
Shelton.
Thank you, man.

818
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,560
Thank you for giving me the
blast from the past.

819
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,360
So just give me what Shelton
put.

820
00:46:58,720 --> 00:47:03,160
So, yeah, man, if you look at
those at those guys and, and,

821
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:10,080
and what they did on the field,
it makes the people that you

822
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:15,800
have back in the skill positions
job much easier.

823
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,360
You know, because when you start
to look at some of the players

824
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,760
that blocked for just say the
quarterbacks that we have on the

825
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,280
list, some of those guys was
good.

826
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:28,960
But as a line all together, I
don't think anybody played with

827
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,640
a line like this.
So you know what I'm saying?

828
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,960
What, what, What would it look
like for somebody to be behind

829
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,800
that?
Yeah, and I'm I'll throw this up

830
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:41,280
and often under spoken render
render.

831
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:43,760
You talking about nasty?
He was nasty.

832
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:45,800
He wanted he wouldn't fight
people.

833
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,640
The other ones, coach Robbie, he
didn't put them on here because

834
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,320
he probably ain't got the list.
He missed it.

835
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,080
A couple other goes out.
This is the all name one right

836
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,360
here.
Buzz Nutter.

837
00:47:59,920 --> 00:48:06,840
Now y'all laugh but Google
research here and.

838
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,680
I'm scared to Google that.
No, no, no, no, no.

839
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,240
No, no.
Also Robbie in there with the

840
00:48:12,240 --> 00:48:15,760
with the Ed Wang reference and
we got Kyle Chung in there too.

841
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,320
Kyle Chung.
The Wang, The Wang Chung

842
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,360
connection.
But if you want to know about

843
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:26,040
basically who Buzz Nutter was,
he played in the same time that

844
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:30,040
Shelton's guy did Don Oakes did
late 50s, got drafted by the

845
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,680
Colts, played for 11 years in
the league between the Colts,

846
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:40,600
the Steelers from 1954 to 1965.
S tells you probably how good he

847
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:44,280
was.
You know, somebody trying to be

848
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,560
funny, Lavar not trying to be
funny.

849
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,600
I I dangle with Todd.
I I thought about putting Todd

850
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:54,520
because Todd was one of those
versatile guys who plays

851
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:58,360
centering guard and they go Buzz
Nutter multiple World

852
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:02,640
Championships.
Oh Jr. trying to be funny.

853
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:04,520
Jr. out here with Parker
Clement.

854
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:09,480
He is the the dream team if you
want your quarterback injured by

855
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,400
offensive line.
True.

856
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:14,560
And there's probably some other
guys too.

857
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:16,960
And again, we're not hitting
everybody, but you start

858
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:20,440
thinking about it and and it's
good to see like what this does

859
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:23,440
is you have conversations and
like a Donald gets brought up or

860
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,320
people forget about Eugene Chung
or people forget about a buzz

861
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,040
Nutter from, you know, yester
pass.

862
00:49:28,720 --> 00:49:31,640
And it's like there's been a lot
of good players that have went

863
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:35,800
through and there's a pitcher
you go to Wikipedia, Brian might

864
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,120
make you cry a little bit.
It's a picture of another

865
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:42,080
standing up somebody while
Johnny use making a pass man so.

866
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,280
You go back and look at what I
think Robbie put, yeah, what

867
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,040
Robbie put at Blake de
Christopher as well.

868
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,440
Yeah.
Like that's a that's a great

869
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:50,920
pick.
It is a great pick.

870
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:57,200
I think he's I think it was two
time all ACC or maybe all

871
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:00,200
American.
No, all it's two time first

872
00:50:00,240 --> 00:50:04,960
team.
All ACC is what he was so crazy

873
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,680
crazy.
He was good production and some

874
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,120
of the lineman that we have had
come through.

875
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:15,280
We need some more next question.
No, I got this from Brian and I

876
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:16,800
know it's a lot of what else in
this.

877
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:23,920
So this is just a strictly what
if X goes to Auburn, has a great

878
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:30,000
year and gets drafted top two
rounds right?

879
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:35,680
Yep, that happens if he had the
same production as he does there

880
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:40,560
at Virginia Tech, Gets drafted
first two rounds.

881
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:42,360
Does he go on this list
anywhere?

882
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:47,680
That's tough.
That's tough, man.

883
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:53,560
At that point, he's probably
pushing Eugene Chung from a

884
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:57,560
product productivity standpoint
based on where you got drafted,

885
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:04,680
based on output.
That's that's a really good

886
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:05,920
question.
I mean, I would definitely

887
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,240
consider it.
I would, I would have to sit

888
00:51:08,240 --> 00:51:11,960
down and really kind of compare
the two at that point.

889
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,880
If if he was back this year, he
had another productive year, got

890
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,840
drafted second round or higher,
yeah, he'd be definitely be in

891
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:21,480
the conversation.
Chris say no.

892
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,120
Yeah, Chris is OK.
So.

893
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:27,240
No, with a lot of with a lot of
peers.

894
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:33,560
I think that's Chris shaking his
head and it was the Christopher

895
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:38,160
was three all time ACC, two time
first team, all the ACC.

896
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:42,040
So I think it was good.
He was good, just won't one like

897
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:47,560
him again.
So but yeah, it's true there.

898
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:49,800
There's been nobody better than
them.

899
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:53,480
So I got somebody mentioning
Trey Turner.

900
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:58,840
And as we put up Trey Turner,
let's go to the wide receiver

901
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:02,920
room because we go on five.
We we're being realistic here.

902
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,720
And Shelton, I'll let you lead
the way on this room.

903
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:10,440
All right, so once again,
respect to my elders.

904
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:14,240
Some of these guys I did not see
play in their primes, but we're

905
00:52:14,240 --> 00:52:16,400
starting off Andre Davis.
Obviously, you know,

906
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,640
self-explanatory.
One of the, one of the key

907
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,760
players of that 99 team, Antonio
Freeman had some crazy

908
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:25,400
production and then some 2, two
more recent guys, Isaiah Ford

909
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,800
and Danny Cole.
You know, to me, those are two

910
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:32,360
guys where, you know, I just, I
look at the, just the, the big

911
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,840
play ability, the toughness,
leadership aspect of it, the

912
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,320
work ethic.
Like if I'm in the trenches and

913
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:41,080
I need, I need a big play, I
really want those guys on my

914
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:42,640
team.
And then obviously Ernest

915
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,800
Wilford as well, another kind of
OGOG throwback.

916
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,280
So kind of got a little bit
bounced here with some some

917
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:49,680
younger guys and some older
guys.

918
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:51,440
I think it's pretty good, pretty
good lineup.

919
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,400
All right.
And I think on this one y'all

920
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,760
are going to see a trend of a
couple guys always popping up.

921
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:02,200
I'm right there with you.
My top guy though that I always

922
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:03,880
think about first is Antonio
Freeman.

923
00:53:04,720 --> 00:53:07,520
But it would like you said what
he did in the 90s was

924
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,640
unbelievable.
What he did in the NFLI mean the

925
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:18,280
guy was all pro was really good.
Then Andre Davis, I mean, like

926
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,680
somebody said it earlier, that
was Mike's only wide receiver.

927
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,280
Like legitimate wide receiver
threat that year.

928
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:28,440
Sharon Stiff was a running back,
but yeah, Eddie Royal.

929
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:38,920
And so like Shelton missed that
era, but that era with Morgan

930
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:45,040
and Eddie and Hyman and Clowny,
I mean, that was a tough one to

931
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,200
do, but I think Eddie was so
versatile.

932
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:48,960
It was like right out the gate
to y'all know, he was a

933
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:52,320
freshman.
It was just like, boom, man.

934
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:57,360
That's a good one, Jim.
I like that Ernest Wilford, 64,

935
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,200
big son of a bitch, could go
above you, could run by you

936
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:07,360
could do whatever he wanted.
And then Isaiah Ford, I think if

937
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:13,520
if we had been really good in 14
and 15, I think Isaiah Ford

938
00:54:13,720 --> 00:54:16,680
might be like, I think he'd be
on another stratosphere.

939
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:20,200
But he had that one year in 16
where he was just dominant.

940
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:22,160
There we go.
We getting some, we getting some

941
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:23,560
run here.
Who's next, Brown or?

942
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:25,640
We getting some deep deep cuts
here too.

943
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:27,320
I love this.
Kelly's boys.

944
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:31,400
Xavier.
Whoa, there you go, Andretti.

945
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,280
We had a we had a Brian still
sighting.

946
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,040
I'm seeing that.
I'm just sitting there reading,

947
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:40,680
oh, I'm next.
So, yeah, so like you said,

948
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:42,360
you're going to see most of the
same names.

949
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,800
I want it to be a little bit
different because I really

950
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:48,720
enjoyed one guy on this list.
Of course, we didn't get to see

951
00:54:48,720 --> 00:54:51,720
him as much as we would have
want to, But Damon Hazleton,

952
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:55,400
just watching him play, watching
his production from that wide

953
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:59,920
receiver position made him one
of my favorite players to to

954
00:54:59,920 --> 00:55:04,720
watch, as well as Isaiah Ford,
you know, Antonio Friedman and

955
00:55:04,720 --> 00:55:09,920
all of these guys that are here.
I kind of was in a in a pickle

956
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:14,440
with Ernest Wilford because I
was thinking, can I slide him

957
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:18,880
into the tight end position?
You know, can I slide him into

958
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:20,120
the tight end position?
I would.

959
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,120
I would so.
If I would have put him in the

960
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:25,960
tight end position to be able to
give me another wide receiver on

961
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:31,200
this list, you know, maybe just
move Lt. off put Will for that.

962
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:32,920
But I was like, you know what,
I'm going to put them off on

963
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:33,960
that.
I'm I'm going to leave it like

964
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:35,560
this.
I'm going to follow the rules.

965
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:39,520
So Ernest Wilford, I mean,
Curtis probably summed it up the

966
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:42,360
best.
Big SOB running past people,

967
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:47,960
running over people.
Eddie Rohl could do it all.

968
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:51,240
I mean, great slot.
What slot wide receiver guy?

969
00:55:51,240 --> 00:55:53,600
I mean, what what what else did
you ask for?

970
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,680
If you got a if you got a line
and you got a quarterback,

971
00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:00,520
somebody on that list get no
somebody's taking the ball to

972
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,800
the house.
So great to watch watch these

973
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:07,800
guys I'm.
Going to piggyback off Tally

974
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,120
here and just I'm going to call
out Robbie real quick.

975
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:13,400
Ernest Wilford belongs in the
tight end room more than Bucky

976
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:19,600
Hodges, but he's not on my list.
He's not on my list, though,

977
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:24,360
because Jim pointed out.
Yeah, I make some people cry.

978
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,280
It does, it hurts it, it it's
painful.

979
00:56:28,240 --> 00:56:33,480
So I got Andre Davis, you know,
all time per catch numbers, man,

980
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:42,680
it's it's hard to argue with 27
1/2 per reception in the season

981
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:44,560
in 99.
And that's what he did.

982
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:48,520
That's ridiculous.
The production that Freeman had

983
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:55,400
in the 90s is insane.
Eddie Royals numbers here.

984
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,120
I don't know why I got Wyatt in
front of Isaiah Ford's name

985
00:56:58,120 --> 00:56:59,520
here.
Blame the typo.

986
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:02,400
I'm that's what I'm blaming it
on.

987
00:57:03,720 --> 00:57:06,000
Eddie Royal versatile.
Do it all man.

988
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:12,560
He's going to be in my slot.
Isaiah Ford, 11 touchdown

989
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:20,120
receptions in 20/15/24 career,
man, you talk about production,

990
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:23,080
the guy's getting in the end
zone, but he's still able to do

991
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:25,320
it in all areas of the field as
well.

992
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:29,200
And Jared Boykin, all the time.
Yards, man.

993
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:33,640
And I think he is a guy that
just from a production

994
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:37,760
standpoint, if you need a first
down, he can get it for you.

995
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:42,280
And hands, Yeah.
I mean, you ever did see the,

996
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:48,560
the, the, the obsession that the
color guys had talking about

997
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:51,640
Jared Boykin's hands in a
broadcast every time is

998
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:55,040
unprecedented.
Man, every time they talk about

999
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:57,360
the bands.
Yeah.

1000
00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:58,960
What?
Are what are you insinuating?

1001
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,040
You don't want to get slapped by
this guy.

1002
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:05,160
No, you don't want to get
blocked by you know that we

1003
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:08,640
somebody put it up here like you
got like Cam Phillips is the all

1004
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:11,080
time leading receiver.
I mean there's so many Brian

1005
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:14,640
still.
I mean there's still a part of

1006
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:21,000
me it goes back 30 years,
December 31st this year when

1007
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,960
Brian still's house that punt
and I know that's not wide

1008
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:26,040
receiver, but Brian still still
there.

1009
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:30,280
Who else?
Who else are we missing?

1010
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:35,400
Anybody we I'll throw 1.
Put up Darrell Darrell Robertson

1011
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:36,320
now.
Darrell.

1012
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:38,360
Yeah, Darrell, yeah.
I mean, if we're looking at

1013
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:42,000
numbers, you know, we talked
about Andre Davis's per catch in

1014
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:45,360
99, but you got Ricky Scales
catching balls from Bruce Arians

1015
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:50,360
for 20.1 for his career.
I know that's crazy in the 70s.

1016
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:52,960
I'll throw you one.
And I forgot to mention, what

1017
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:54,520
about Harper?
Remember Justin Harper?

1018
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:58,960
Yeah.
Harper that was so good back in

1019
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,240
the old size.
Always Carol Dale.

1020
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:04,000
Don't ever forget the name.
If you if you're a new Hokey

1021
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:06,880
fan, go look him up.
Unbelievable player with Tech.

1022
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:08,360
Unbelievable player with
Packers.

1023
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:10,760
Yeah, there's been 2.
There's been 2000s.

1024
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,640
Like, you had four receivers
that were legitimate NFL talent.

1025
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:17,520
It was hard to get them the
number of catches that you would

1026
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:21,360
want them to have because you
had four guys that were very,

1027
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:25,120
very talented in that group.
I want, I want to throw this to

1028
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:26,600
all three.
I'm going to pitch it to Shelton

1029
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:30,120
first.
Shelton If Jalen Lane had spent

1030
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:33,800
all four years at Virginia Tech,
would he be on this list for

1031
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:36,760
you?
I mean, I think so if you, you

1032
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:40,080
pencil him in a slot, I mean, I
just think based on, you know,

1033
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:42,520
just based on like his speed,
you know, the, the physical

1034
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:44,520
attributes.
Like he was already because like

1035
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:48,200
I was when we were doing this,
this exercise, I was looking up

1036
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:51,800
the all time receiver list, all
time receiving staff at BT and

1037
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:56,680
he was, I think Jalen was top 20
ish despite the in total

1038
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:58,640
catches, despite the fact he
only played two years here,

1039
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:01,960
which is really impressive.
So I think if you extrapolate

1040
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:03,840
that to four years, I mean he he
would be one of the most

1041
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:06,200
productive slot receivers of all
time.

1042
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:11,560
Yeah, had all the, he's got all
the physical attributes that

1043
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:13,800
makes him good.
We didn't get to see in return

1044
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:19,880
kicks as much as he probably
could have if the team was what

1045
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:22,640
it needed to be.
So just different things that he

1046
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:27,120
did Does great question make
gives you the opportunity to

1047
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:29,400
even mention his name with some
of these.

1048
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:34,320
You know, for him only being
here 2 years, I think he's going

1049
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:37,480
to have a good NFL career.
I was hoping that I was hoping

1050
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:38,760
that the Titans would pick him
up.

1051
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:41,440
I was I was I told you I'll
please let us get him.

1052
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:46,760
But of course we didn't.
So yeah, Andre, Andre and

1053
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:49,160
mentioned Marcus, Marcus Davis
on here as well.

1054
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:52,680
Yeah.
And it's going to be interesting

1055
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:57,480
to see how like as we move
forward in the transfer portal

1056
01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:02,600
era, like how do we quantify
transfer production?

1057
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:05,360
And I mean, I think we're going
to have a little bit of a

1058
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:08,240
conversation about that in this
next, this next window here.

1059
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:12,320
But it's, it's, it's going to be
interesting because you're

1060
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:17,440
talking about one or two years
of production with your team,

1061
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:22,000
whereas usually most of these
guys are on this list had at

1062
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:25,640
least three years, 3 productive
seasons with the squad, right?

1063
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:29,200
So by default most of these
transfer guys are going to have

1064
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:33,760
at least one year handicap.
Since we doing since we doing so

1065
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:38,120
much, what else right can I just
say Curtis, you only get I'm

1066
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:42,040
going to start a timer about 5
minutes.

1067
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:52,120
What if 2026 no not 20/26/2016
team come back?

1068
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:57,800
You, you know y'all know that?
We lose.

1069
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:01,360
We lose the Clemson by what, 7
points?

1070
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:03,280
About 7, No, No.
Yeah.

1071
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:05,000
Seven.
Yeah.

1072
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:08,960
Because it was always the the
fluente always said if we score

1073
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:13,240
it, we go for two.
Because fuck, over time that

1074
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:16,160
would have been Cam's back,
Isaiah's back, Bucky's back.

1075
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:20,200
The back.
The defense because the what

1076
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:23,480
everybody looks at is the
mirrorism of the defense because

1077
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:27,000
in 2016 that the offense was top
25.

1078
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:28,800
First of all we've never seen
anything like it.

1079
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:33,320
Like we didn't know what to do.
Like we scoring even low point

1080
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:36,600
game we get in the 20's the next
year, if y'all remember that was

1081
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:39,840
a top 10 defense I believe with
Tremaine, with the Edmonds

1082
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:45,120
brothers, the the what if about
2017 and there's there's there's

1083
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:47,800
multiple years because you've
already talked about 2011.

1084
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:57,920
That's one of my what ifs. 2017
we went nine and three and the

1085
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:02,440
losses were to golly pull it
back up Clemson.

1086
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:08,440
Georgia Tech and.
Yeah, Georgia Tech bullshit.

1087
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:11,360
Miami.
Miami.

1088
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:16,240
Yeah.
It it it's tough not to say that

1089
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:18,760
that team wouldn't have been to
at least two wins better.

1090
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:22,160
Right.
But but I'll throw, let me, let

1091
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,400
me throw this one at y'all
before we get into running

1092
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:27,160
backs.
Michael Bates doesn't fuck up

1093
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:31,560
his ankle in 2000.
Do we win a national

1094
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:33,880
championship?
Because he was he, he was such a

1095
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:36,560
better passer that second year.
Does he win the Heisman?

1096
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:39,320
Does he win the Heisman?
Does he win a national

1097
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:43,160
championship?
That's the, I mean, they're,

1098
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:45,080
those are the three seasons.
I've always said I could

1099
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:49,920
probably sit here and shelter
with the data, people watching

1100
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:52,400
it, you know, bring people like
Dwight on the people that played

1101
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:54,120
on those teams.
Those three teams are the

1102
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:56,160
biggest what ifs in Virginia
Tech history.

1103
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:59,160
What because?
Because it Mike doesn't hurt his

1104
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:02,240
ankle.
Hey, hey, where you at?

1105
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:03,880
Where you at?
He always sitting right here

1106
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:05,720
when you came.
You wouldn't have beat us in

1107
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:08,520
2000 with that man.
He already put you down once

1108
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:10,120
here to put you out to pass your
second time.

1109
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:13,680
I ain't no king.
Oh, he knows it's true.

1110
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:16,720
He knows it's true because we we
fought them tooth and nail.

1111
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:19,640
Without in that game, he might
have been a baby, but you know,

1112
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:24,240
right Tally, you going to make
me write another episode?

1113
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:26,240
We're going to be sitting here
for three hours talking about

1114
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:31,240
What If seasons.
And I already knew it because

1115
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:35,720
Bass, Bass has asked a couple
times, Brian, who is going to be

1116
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:37,720
the damn wide receiver one for
this year?

1117
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:42,000
We don't know, man.
We, we, we think it might be

1118
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:44,400
Aiden Green.
But Brian, who is it going to

1119
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:45,240
be?
Who going to be the wide

1120
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:46,240
receiver one this year?
I think.

1121
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:48,160
It's going to have to be Aiden
Green.

1122
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:50,200
It's going to have to be 1 of
the one of the two Greens, I

1123
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:54,680
would imagine.
I just don't know.

1124
01:04:56,280 --> 01:05:00,680
We got one guy that's a known,
known commodity, but he was, you

1125
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:03,440
know, kind of third in the
pecking order, really 4th if you

1126
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:08,120
got to add in tight end
production in the pecking order

1127
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:14,800
from a of a passing perspective.
But at the same time, we got a

1128
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:18,280
whole lot of guys coming in
that, you know, two of them have

1129
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:22,840
been productive at other spots,
but haven't always been that

1130
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:24,840
healthy.
You know, you got Seldon coming

1131
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:29,520
in that, you know, he might be
able to be productive in the

1132
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:32,720
slot, but we don't know exactly
what he looks like being a full

1133
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:35,920
time wide receiver.
So that's still to be

1134
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:40,360
determined.
So I mean, my, my gut says it's

1135
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:43,240
going to be Aiden Green, but
honestly, I don't know.

1136
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:50,320
There's your answer, Bass.
Well, that's his answer.

1137
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:53,560
From from Brian.
Well, Donovan Green can stay

1138
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:55,400
healthy.
I mean, with the system we're

1139
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:59,400
going to be running now, I think
Donovan Green could be wide

1140
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:04,280
receiver one stat wise at the
end now.

1141
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:05,880
Oh, Shelton, you made a frown on
that.

1142
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:06,520
Go on.
Oh.

1143
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:09,080
No, no, that wasn't.
That wasn't intentional.

1144
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:11,320
Or anything.
Curtis, you know he.

1145
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:13,520
That was an.
That was an indeterminate.

1146
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:14,960
Frown.
Yeah, like I agree with you.

1147
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:17,080
I agree with your point though.
Like it's yeah, we just don't

1148
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:19,120
know.
He was, he was crunching numbers

1149
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:22,120
as you was talking.
He's probably, he's probably got

1150
01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:23,960
so many stats going on his head
right now.

1151
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:26,280
Yeah, I'm going to tell you he
was crunching.

1152
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:28,600
He was crunching.
This guy's been out so many

1153
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:30,480
games, Curtis.
He's not going to play a full

1154
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:32,760
season.
So you losing your ever loving

1155
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:37,000
mind doing that.
All right, all right, we finally

1156
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:41,240
got here because this would, you
know, there's so many ways you

1157
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:44,800
could go with this one.
I mean, you got Robbie's

1158
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:47,400
throwing this up, including Mike
Vick.

1159
01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:52,800
Robbie crazy now not not a crazy
take.

1160
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:54,200
I'm just saying, Robbie, you
crazy?

1161
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:56,080
Hey, Kenny Lewis, shout out
here.

1162
01:06:56,640 --> 01:07:00,960
Kenny Lewis I think.
I think Rocky's going with MV7

1163
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:05,400
and the All GW Danville back.
The all GW team because he got

1164
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:09,720
he saw him run by him so much I.
Oh, oh, Kenny Lewis.

1165
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:11,240
I saw Kenny Lewis run by.
You saw?

1166
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:15,640
Kenny too it right?
Yeah, this is a great podcast.

1167
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:17,880
That's why it's been fitting and
we we waited for it.

1168
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:20,720
I get to lead the running back
one because I thought of the

1169
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:26,600
idea and for me, I won't sub 4/4
speed.

1170
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:30,560
If they touch it and you miss
them, they gone.

1171
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:35,720
Kevin Jones, KJ still the best
fact that has ever come through.

1172
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:39,800
David Wilson, the man still runs
by Robbie and asleep on the

1173
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:43,720
sidelines and the new blood
because I got to see him for two

1174
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:47,320
seasons and you saw him hit
holes and when he got to the

1175
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:50,040
second level, you won't stop at
him.

1176
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:54,600
I love Basil 2 and he's one of
those guys that if I walk into a

1177
01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:56,960
place and I see what is it, he
was 33, right?

1178
01:07:57,480 --> 01:07:59,400
Yep.
I'd be tempted about 33.

1179
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:06,360
I got 5 in the closet.
Shout out Tyrod, but 33 I could.

1180
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:10,720
I could dial that number.
All right, so we got this out of

1181
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:15,080
the way with with having a
transfer in the dream team.

1182
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:20,680
Yep.
You know what, like I'm, I don't

1183
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:22,960
have a problem with that,
especially a running back,

1184
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:27,560
because running back is a
position that most guys only

1185
01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:30,439
have two productive years before
they're going to the draft

1186
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:36,640
anyway, historically.
So you know, this isn't eye

1187
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:40,240
popping because he still had two
productive years of Virginia

1188
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:43,000
Tech.
So no problems there.

1189
01:08:43,279 --> 01:08:45,399
I went a little bit different.
I think Curtis, you got a little

1190
01:08:45,399 --> 01:08:49,640
bit more balance than I do.
I got you got speed, but .3

1191
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:52,200
speed.
But but Tooting is still good

1192
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:54,720
between the tackles, can break
tackles very well.

1193
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:58,439
So you still have that in the
short yardage perspective.

1194
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:04,160
You know, I got Ryan Williams in
short yardage roll here because

1195
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:06,520
I've got Wilson and KJ on here
as well.

1196
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:10,359
I went with a lot of speed here,
but I think Williams is also

1197
01:09:10,359 --> 01:09:13,800
versatile enough where he can
get the job done in those short

1198
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:15,560
yardage and goal line situations
here.

1199
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:23,040
But David Wilson is up there in
terms of running back balance

1200
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:26,880
that I've ever seen.
Being able to stay upright when

1201
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:31,640
contacting defenders, being able
to turn a corner.

1202
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:36,120
KJ is just, you know, you talk
about Michael Vick being

1203
01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:39,720
electric, KJ was electric at the
running back position and and

1204
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:42,880
Ryan Williams was really just
doing everything, but with

1205
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:46,880
enough, you know, breakaway to
really be a game changer.

1206
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:50,359
So that's my 3.
And you get a little bit of

1207
01:09:50,359 --> 01:09:53,160
versatility there with Wilson
because he can run some kicks

1208
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:55,920
back for you and and make some
big plays on special teams.

1209
01:09:57,040 --> 01:10:00,880
Tally.
So don't jump on me.

1210
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:04,200
I knew a lot of names was
already going to be taken, but I

1211
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:05,880
had to put certain names in
there.

1212
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:09,720
Ryan Williams is probably my
favorite Virginia Tech running

1213
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:13,160
back to ever watch.
Little Sweetness, probably my

1214
01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:15,600
favorite.
Somebody else put Darren Evans

1215
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:17,680
up here.
I was, you know, thinking about

1216
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:19,640
all of these guys in the
backfield together.

1217
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:23,280
David Wilson, Darren Evans.
Darren Evans doesn't get hurt.

1218
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:27,080
Whatever.
Anyway, Ryan Williams, David

1219
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:32,040
Wilson, exactly what Brian said.
Watching him was ridiculous.

1220
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:36,520
Like his balance getting to the
corner, it looked like the man

1221
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:38,200
was.
He looked like Michael Jackson,

1222
01:10:38,480 --> 01:10:40,720
like he was leaning.
Remember when Michael Jackson

1223
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:43,160
did the dance when he was
leaning but staying upright?

1224
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:45,160
Like that's what David Wilson
looked like when he was running

1225
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:47,520
the ball.
And then I had to give a shout

1226
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:52,440
out to Khalil Herbert.
I'm a big Khalil Herbert fan.

1227
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:55,760
I like tuning a little bit
better just from what I've seen

1228
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:57,840
him watch.
But I knew Curtis put it, so I

1229
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:01,240
had to give a shout out to
Herbert just because we got

1230
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:05,080
Herbert in during COVID and I
feel like he was cheated.

1231
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:10,200
I feel like we were cheated.
Nobody got the world didn't

1232
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:12,760
really get to see what that man
could do in a Virginia Tech

1233
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:15,120
jersey.
Like he was so exciting to

1234
01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:18,800
watch, man.
He was great balance, super,

1235
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:22,000
super speed, like just a great
running back to watch.

1236
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:25,160
So had to throw him in there
with so many backs that you

1237
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:27,800
could put in.
I see people putting up like

1238
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:31,720
going back, looking at Lee
Suggs, Brandon Orr, all of these

1239
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:34,200
guys, and it's like, damn, man,
who do I put in here?

1240
01:11:34,440 --> 01:11:37,560
Like that's probably the deepest
position that Virginia take.

1241
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:40,920
That's the hardest for me out of
everything to pick even more

1242
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:42,640
than quarterback, you know what
I'm saying?

1243
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:44,520
Because realistically when you
look at quarterback, you're just

1244
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:46,760
like, we going to put Michael
Vick in there, You know what I'm

1245
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:48,480
saying?
Like most of the time, most

1246
01:11:48,480 --> 01:11:50,400
people's going to do that.
But when you look at running

1247
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:54,040
back and you ask 10 people give
me your top three running backs,

1248
01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:58,440
all of the list usually going to
be somewhat different just

1249
01:11:58,440 --> 01:12:01,000
because of auto production
you've had in that position.

1250
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:04,720
Yeah, before Sheldon goes here,
Tally, I want to give you a

1251
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:07,680
shout out for Herbert, man,
because especially the context

1252
01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:10,400
of it.
Because imagine like we saw that

1253
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:15,800
moment with Tootin at UVA
running it back and going in

1254
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:18,240
there.
Imagine like all the times where

1255
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:22,040
Herbert got to the edge of that
one, cut outside zone and just

1256
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:25,280
shot the gap and then hit the
the track finish line.

1257
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:28,200
Yeah, if he if he could run up
into the stands and actually get

1258
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:31,880
some interaction with fans, that
would have went so hard, man.

1259
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:35,480
Yeah, for real.
I'm telling you right now.

1260
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:38,520
I know with Curtis, I mean, I
know Shelton's got to go here

1261
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:40,920
just a second, but and then I
know we got to get ready.

1262
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:44,560
I'm go ahead and saying right
now we got to get Rock down here

1263
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:49,320
for defense.
He's already amped up, man.

1264
01:12:49,440 --> 01:12:53,680
He is amped.
Robbie is a Robbie.

1265
01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:58,160
The invitation will be to you
and we'll bring you on here.

1266
01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:02,440
Shelton Go.
All right, the first thing I

1267
01:13:02,440 --> 01:13:06,320
want to say before I reveal my
list is God bless Jim Kavanaugh.

1268
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:09,520
That man was a dog on the
recruiting trail.

1269
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:13,280
He's responsible for almost all
of the legendary running backs

1270
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:15,240
you'll you'll see in tech
history.

1271
01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:19,080
The the best recruit I've ever
had by far.

1272
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:22,280
So praise be to Jim Kavanaugh
for all the work he did.

1273
01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:26,560
So my, my, my running back list
now Lee Suggs.

1274
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:29,400
I mean, you know, nothing really
needs explanation there.

1275
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:34,680
He had a 27 touchdown season, I
believe in 2000 something.

1276
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:38,480
But he was Ashley Genti before
Ashton Genti was Ashton Genti.

1277
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:42,760
So Suggs was was a goat.
Cole Herbert, now he was more of

1278
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:44,880
his own running back.
So I think what separated him

1279
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:47,680
was his vision and his ability
to to find those holes, get to

1280
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:49,800
the second level, see the
safeties and kind of make those,

1281
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:52,720
you know, those reads, not the
not the biggest, you know,

1282
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:55,280
breakaway speed, but just had
unparalleled vision.

1283
01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:59,560
And then Kevin Jones also had a
22 touchdown season, I think in

1284
01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:02,720
2003, also a dog.
So those are my, those are my

1285
01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:05,640
big three.
I I, I like this.

1286
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:08,440
Yeah.
The way thugs ran, there

1287
01:14:08,440 --> 01:14:10,720
wouldn't be people that slows
him down.

1288
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:12,880
But.
But we're missing just so many

1289
01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:14,920
people, though.
That's the thing.

1290
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:16,880
That's the crazy part about
this.

1291
01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:20,080
Like, and we all have our three
different ones and, you know, we

1292
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:24,920
spill over and all that.
But like, you know, Brandon Orr,

1293
01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:31,800
I mean, always forget about
always forget about Humes and.

1294
01:14:32,440 --> 01:14:34,880
The entire backfield of 2010 you
could put on this list.

1295
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:41,600
You could and we completely, we
had a great season, but with

1296
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:44,600
those three guys in the
backfield it should have been a

1297
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:48,480
significantly even more.
I think somebody mentioned

1298
01:14:48,480 --> 01:14:52,080
earlier, was it Curtis or Brian
that was talking about Cyrus,

1299
01:14:52,280 --> 01:15:02,720
Cyrus Law, Cyrus Lawrence, Cyrus
Lawrence. 3746 is is 373767 is

1300
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:06,200
the number all time leading
runner running back attack not

1301
01:15:07,480 --> 01:15:10,840
even mentioned and he could have
did more damage.

1302
01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:13,640
If you look back in his stats,
he only played five games in

1303
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:18,840
1982, his senior season.
Yep, his numbers were nuts.

1304
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:22,680
And like I said, you know, he's
on a, on a squad to Bruce Smith.

1305
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:28,160
You know, they were, they were,
they were definitely the the

1306
01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:29,960
kingpins on either side of the
ball there.

1307
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:35,000
I mean.
It's this is like, I mean, I'll

1308
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:38,800
throw a couple names out that we
don't think about that were

1309
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:41,760
really good running backs like
Travion McMillan.

1310
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:44,560
Yeah.
Travion Travion 1000 yard

1311
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:46,280
season.
Ran them off.

1312
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:49,280
Ran them off.
Ran them off.

1313
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:52,440
Sharon stiff not even mentioned
on here.

1314
01:15:52,440 --> 01:15:56,440
Rushed for 1100 yards at 99 as
running back.

1315
01:15:56,440 --> 01:16:00,920
One Andre Kendrick had 898 or
900 yard that year.

1316
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:05,360
So this was like the toughest
room.

1317
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:09,680
But it's also one of those rooms
depending on how you looked at

1318
01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:12,040
it.
Like I think you look at all of

1319
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:15,800
our lists, all three of ours,
it's like I told you all, I

1320
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:18,960
wanted speed.
I feel like my opinion, I think

1321
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:22,600
Shelton, you got like the most
balanced room because if you get

1322
01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:24,520
down to the three yard line,
there are no questions.

1323
01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:27,040
You are going to score a
touchdown with a running back.

1324
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:33,440
No question, just like Sheldon
scored but it but it but like I

1325
01:16:33,440 --> 01:16:36,720
think bass bass master put it up
a little while ago.

1326
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:41,160
This was fun.
Like this was a lot of fun

1327
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:44,480
because you start going in there
and you start thinking about it.

1328
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:48,960
And now I'm looking back Tally
Jim tally, look at the screen.

1329
01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:56,040
Look what Jim got here.
Yeah, I can't even think about.

1330
01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:59,800
Untouchables with Mike
Untouchables with Mike with

1331
01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:00,640
Mike.
Crazy.

1332
01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:05,760
Yeah.
So, yeah, so we appreciate y'all

1333
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:10,560
definitely chiming in tonight.
Again, this was a lot of fun.

1334
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:12,720
We are going to come back.
I don't know when.

1335
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:14,720
It might be next month.
It might be July.

1336
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:17,600
We'll do defense.
Robbie, you've been invited to

1337
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:21,000
come on with this one.
Anything else?

1338
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:27,080
Apparently, Per per a text from
our music man Jason, And per new

1339
01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:30,680
King, I guess the Knicks choked
another one away tonight while

1340
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:33,600
we were sitting here talking.
Oh Lord, I.

1341
01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:35,280
Paid attention to nothing.
Yeah, they did.

1342
01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:38,000
Of course they did.
Yeah, they down 3.

1343
01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:40,680
One, were they down?
No.

1344
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:42,400
Were they down?
Let's see.

1345
01:17:42,440 --> 01:17:43,720
I'm.
I'm pulling up some here.

1346
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:47,960
Yep.
Yes, so 3. 131 That's too funny.

1347
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:50,960
All right, Well boy, there we
go.

1348
01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:56,000
There we go.
All right, well, if y'all got

1349
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:58,520
nothing else, let's rough up the
night so we can all get in bed

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01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:00,960
by 11:30.
That wraps up this episode of

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01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:04,880
the Boundary Corner Podcast,
brought to you by the Counts

1352
01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:07,480
Family Pharmacy in Blacksburg.
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1353
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:09,880
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1354
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:12,760
And I'm Sean Moss.
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1355
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:14,160
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1356
01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:17,800
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1357
01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:21,000
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1358
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:24,120
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1359
01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:26,680
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always fun to see y'all on

1360
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:31,960
YouTube out there also check
Jason long music out to check

1361
01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:35,840
all of his live dates, which I
think he has one they have one

1362
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:38,120
this week.
Hold on.

1363
01:18:38,480 --> 01:18:41,280
I always like to say when he has
a live event somewhere, I always

1364
01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:42,480
like to promo that out.
He's.

1365
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:44,360
Got something coming up but I
don't know if it's this week.

1366
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:50,280
June 8th, Mangoes Bar and Grill,
the Harmony for Hope for

1367
01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:53,120
supporting lymphoma research.
That will be June 8th.

1368
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:55,680
He'll be playing 12 to One down
there.

1369
01:18:58,240 --> 01:18:59,920
Anything else boys, before we
wrap it up?

1370
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:02,520
Nah, man.
Just appreciate everybody for

1371
01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:04,360
joining tonight.
It's been a lot of fun chopping

1372
01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:08,240
this up and getting everybody's
input on what we think and what

1373
01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:10,320
y'all think.
Yeah, yeah, I got a little.

1374
01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:13,040
I got a little bit of homework
for you chat.

1375
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:15,960
I think Bass Masterminder put it
up earlier.

1376
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:21,480
He wants to know what the spread
will be going into the South

1377
01:19:21,480 --> 01:19:25,200
Carolina game.
So just for fun, do a little

1378
01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:28,800
research, send us, let us know
what y'all think spreads going

1379
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:30,880
to look like moving into that
game.

1380
01:19:31,440 --> 01:19:35,000
We'll talk about it one day.
We will, we will as we draw

1381
01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:38,600
closer to the end of August.
And with that being said, we

1382
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:41,080
appreciate y'all out there for
listening, for chiming in.

1383
01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:42,600
And as always, let's go.

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