In this episode we welcome back Hokie football legend, Vicktory Life founder, and host of the Vick757 Podcast Dwight Vick. We walk Dwight through a temperature check of the team, from the wrap up of last season to recruiting and coaching changes, as Spring Practice continues this week and the first full pad sessions get underway.

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The legend himself is stepping
on with us again.

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We got Dwight Vic, On tonight,
how you feeling tally or

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feeling?
Pretty good man.

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You know, that's family, man.
Y'all calling the white.

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I call him Uncle.
We're going to bring him in

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here.
He going to give us some

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insight.
We will have a good time.

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It's gonna be a good night.
I'm already feeling it.

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I know the juices flowing over
here.

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I know the juices flowing
throughout the twitterverse.

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Oh yeah.
I got my drink ready.

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We'll talk about that later on.
Let's go.

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Let's wait.
Yes, we do.

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He is Always a pleasure to have
on this program.

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Everyone's favorite hokey, I
feel like all-big East team.

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Captain offensive guard.
He is From The Trenches and this

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is an offensive lineman podcast,
everybody knows that up and

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down.
It's great to have him back.

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This is now the fourth time he
is becoming the leading guest on

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this show.
Ladies and gentlemen, Dwight

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Vic.
What's up, what's up?

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What's good, what's good?
I get me in there.

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Yeah, that's happening.
A menace craving on the field.

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Number one in your heart, I
appreciate the love, man.

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Hey look, man.
Um, I get invited to be on a lot

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of stuff man, but anytime be
hits me up and it dims is like,

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yo, you want to jump on them?
Like yeah, I'll reschedule what

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I got, man.
I got a lot to do.

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I'm like you tightly.
I got kids wife businesses but I

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mean, yeah, I'm happy.
He that going, bro.

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Like I love talking about my
favorite University and school

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and sports and just vibing and
providing Insight man, you know.

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So I'm happy to be back on, bro.
Definitely, definitely, always

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welcome with us, for sure.
Always welcome.

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We always appreciate your
insights, your thoughts.

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You have so many good things to
talk about, man.

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Every time salute to the big
bro, Vic as right from Brian

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cobs and we've got a lot to
unload tonight, man.

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I mean a lot has changed.
I mean last time you were on

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with this was before the season,
we've heard you in the Twitter

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spaces, we argue on Victory
Life, the vix 757 podcast, but

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before we get into That I want
to talk a little Hoops.

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I saw your son and his high
school had a damn good season

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man.
How did that feels a dad seeing

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all that hard work be all for
Miss year?

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Number one, I appreciate you
asking that because I've been a

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little bit quieter last, couple
of months, is not as talkative,

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and I got three great kids.
But like my oldest daughter is

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doing the damn thing at ODU as a
freshman, my youngest daughter.

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Who's he Here in her room, you
know, getting ready to go to bed

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and she's a seventh-grader, she
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But, you know, my son's a Isaiah
over the last two years has

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really taken off man and it's
just phenomenal to see him.

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He plays for a phenomenal coach.
When the best coaches in the

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state Sherman Rivers, he's got a
top-notch staff Patriot as the

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last seven years have been one
of the best teams in the DMV and

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if you know about the DMV,
that's DC Maryland, Northern

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Virginia.
This is the mecca of basketball

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when it comes to high school and
for him to be shining and the

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way he you know, he had a very
good year last year.

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Excuse me first, she has
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it's really, he's not a five,
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he's grown to be 66.
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plays the five.
I'm making three hit threes, he

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can dunk.
He can I think the biggest thing

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I love about his game is that
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He can defend and He's got
schools checking form hasn't

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gotten that first off of.
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But I noticed during the Summers
coming, I mean there was a

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stretch in the season where he
had like he got MVP, they played

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on NBC against Largo, he got
player the game, MVP with 21

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points, 6 boards, four assists,
2 Steals and against

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Battlefield, their big rival,
the week before that he had 21

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points, he got played a game,
got played a game in eastern

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regional, I mean, the Regional
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Yeah, The game, we got him VP,
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And, you know, Boston College is
showing interest Longwood

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Radford Mount st.
Mary's, I don't, I don't really

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know, like, you know, with
recruiting is fluid especially

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with the transfer portal and you
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you.
But I know the right schools

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going to take notice and, you
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father to him and, and also
enjoy it.

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So, I'm Less time, blessed.
And he's, you know, people say

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man, he, I'll say this real
quick, my wife was all met and

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track and I'm not ashamed to
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He gets his length and height
from p.m. 64 65, but he gets his

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athleticism from his mom.
I'm a good athlete, my God.

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But like this, he gets his
athleticism from Shanice Carter

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Vic.
She was a hell of Ashley

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herself.
I'm not that Egotistical what I

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want.
Shot her out and you know it's

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just a blessing us.
I'm a family man.

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I've never been ashamed of that.
You know, you are.

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I love my children and my son
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not going to tell y'all no lies.
Raising kids is another job.

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I mean, it's, it's always always
like, it's always something, you

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know, you learn it.
You know, you got to learn when,

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to back off when the push, when
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When they listen, you also guys
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so So I spend my day working
with teens and families.

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I had a call right before we
jump doing with a crisis.

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I had to kind of help out in
Vienna with a family man.

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So I did a kid my life to
helping others and empowering

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others, but it is a blessing to
see my children's growing and

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Shining man.
So I appreciate that question,

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man.
Yeah, definitely definitely,

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absolutely.
And it's good man to hear the

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daughters-- doing well done
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Do OT you, I'm sure she got some
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It's good to hear yourself.
Seventh grader in middle school.

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I'm sorry.
I got to be real.

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I know she got on you that game.
She did and I love it and I love

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to hear your seventh graders out
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Running track having good.
It's good to hear all the kids

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are doing good man.
Who wants, who wants to pitch

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the next question to mr.
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Sally, I'll let you ride.
So, you know, we all know about

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the, the Vic 757 podcast, that
that you got going on.

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We see the victory life.
We see the owner and founder of

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Victory Life under your name
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I guess it says, when the next
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was a when you coming back with
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So when you, when is your next
show and who you got coming, you

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know.
Mike and I last year, it was

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another great year, we would do
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great thing about it is we got
boundary your show, we got Dom

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V, you got other Governor, great
podcast out there.

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So Mike and I are both very
busy.

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I mean you talking about like he
is still an icon.

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So our podcast Vic 757 show
talking all things Tech and

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seasonal.
So I just actually text Mike

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today I say cuz you coming To
the spring game.

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He said, yeah, you come because
I said, well, absolutely.

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So speaking of kids, we Goin kid
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So that means I can I get to
know no-ho-ho-ho so I was I was

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going to be excited about that
until I started looking up

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young, Vic's, basketball stats
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We need to get him up there.
I gotta we gotta get him to take

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so I can get some so I can meet
him and get a, get a signature

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already, man.
Yeah, it autograph already from

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him.
You know, man.

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Yeah, you some of my son, right?
I'm talking about your son, your

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first.
He likes to take.

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I mean, I'm a huge might young
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No, they didn't have the season.
They thought they were going to

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have man, but, you know, I'm he
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My son is actually right now in
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Coming back from Prague, he
plays for DC from nice to coach

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him.
I coached him for five years and

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he's actually now playing last
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DC Premiere.
And they play on the Under

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Armour circuit if she was
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And it's a lot of college
coaches at that circus.

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You have the E YB L Nike you
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Under Armour.
So I mean, we were talking the

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other day he likes to take but I
mean he's just like in whatever

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School shows in the most loved.
I mean obviously our family grew

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up Hokies so you know it's crazy
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greatness his whole life from
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to Timmy said, he said train
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strowman when he was in Middle
School him and my oldest

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daughter, you know, he was Now
Ricky Slade who went to Penn

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State and then older you.
So for him, you know, he went to

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the football camps with Roddy
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know, it was catching a ball so
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greatness.
And I mean, I think if checkable

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pulled the trigger I mean they
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already, he's a 2024.
So he's got one more year, it

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would be like great, I mean I
would be nostalgic, but I've

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learned in life, not to force it
because even when I chose tech

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tech was not Virginia Tech it.
It is now.

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So I mean I was getting recruit
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College and hp's.
I was getting recruited by a lot

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of schools and tested.
Murdered a was the dream off of,

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right?
Well, it ain't Notre, Dame was a

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dream offer.
I know, I know my tech fans

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frown when I say UVA Just Gonna
Stand in that time UVA, Shawn

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Moore, Terry Kirby Herman Moore,
they were doing the damn thing

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and I was really feeling UVA.
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Like that was my school Tony
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You know, that is, you know,
rocket, the rocket rocket rocket

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on there.
The rocket be somebody in the 40

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win church shoes, man.
You know I'm saying like he had

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a race one time.
He had on like, you know, the

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Stacy Adams and he smokes
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So yeah, man, so at the end of
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ends up going there?
It'll be a good, but I'm just

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praying for health Focus.
Yeah, and locked it, and yeah.

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Then we're going back to real
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The wrap up with me and Mike I
just want to say men like I

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don't know.
If everybody knows the whole

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story behind the Vic. 757 show
already, had Victory Life.

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Legacy Spotlight in this show, I
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All right?
And then I do a weekly radio

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segment and I jump on with you
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So I will Embrace any.
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running my mouth, Mike does his
stuff with Fox and all of that,

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but he came to me and was like,
Hey, cuz I want to help check

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out.
It was his idea.

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And I came up with the name and
he came up with the tagline and

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I chemistry is always been like
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great.
So the next guest we're going to

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try to get antoniou banks on and
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Oh the road scholar guy from
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Yes you no no no no, no minor
from Tech.

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The Deep ball rolling.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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No, it's all good.
It's all good.

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So yeah, that's the plan but I
mean you guys know trying to get

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gas this crazy sometimes man cuz
you know, you know, not even

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just the older heads but like,
even the Young Dudes, man.

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It's tough because I mean, my
guys billion them sons of

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Saturday Grayson and were like,
yo, they were trying to get me

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and Michael and I was like not
just my schedule, Mike man like

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he is he flies and travels and
he's everywhere but it's so

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funny because He is a tech fan.
Like, he'll text me or call me

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during the game.
I'm, it was one game.

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This was, I think it was.
When Brown my sister was there,

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we were playing pit and he was
like, Hey, cuz man, like what we

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doing out here, dog?
What is it was like, what do

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these plays be running?
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And I was like, you know, it's,
you know, he was like, why we

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passed and so much, man?
Like, we got a runner.

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He's it's so funny because you
say, Mike Vick.

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But he's no different from the
four of us.

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He is a fan.
He has Insight.

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He has suggestions.
And, you know, he's like us,

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bro, you know, and I'm sure he
gets passionate.

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Be like, what the hell?
What the hell is going on?

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We do the hell is going on?
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Brick wall.
Yeah though he he is very

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different from telling ya know,
I definitely understand what

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you're saying.
Yeah, I understand.

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Yeah, it is good to hear you say
that stuff too.

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Because a lot of fans that
aren't close to somebody like a

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Mike vehicle.
The white Vic think that all

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these guys don't they don't
watch the games, they don't pay

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attention, they don't want to go
back, they don't give back, you

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know, that people don't know,
you know, they only know what

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they may get a snippet of on
24/7 or something.

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They don't know the real Also
it's good to hear you say, stuff

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like that and Kurt and be.
I'ma tell y'all some man from

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Jimmy Williams to DJ Parker to
the guys from the 80s.

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I'm kind of like that, that guy
that links everybody up, man.

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Let me tell y'all, man, Todd,
Washington, it don't matter,

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man.
People when you when you played

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it at University, Tony Kennedy
all these guys man Vaughn

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Hebron, they care about Tech
football and ain't nobody really

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feeling now.
We've been a feeling great

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before now with prior, there's a
lot of optimism and hope and

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feeling much better.
But before it was about to be,

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it was about to be like Varsity
Blues out there was about to be,

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it was not to be on and real
quick and I want to throw out

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somebody real quick.
I want to shout out, I know we

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don't do that till later, but I
want to shout out without

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talking about, like my son.
I got a nephew and he's an

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eighth grade.
He started, his name is Derek

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Fisher, my nephew is he Starting
quarterback for Bethel High

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School's JV and eighth grade and
he was in the 75 and Hampton and

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they grade, you can play JV High
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And he was a starting
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got in projected, but I'm to be
the starting quarterback as a

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freshman on the varsity and I'm
telling y'all.

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Wow, I'm just telling y'all, I'm
telling y'all.

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He's special to named Aang.
I'm just there to Mission Derek

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Fisher and he's in.
He's Bethel.

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High School.
He is special.

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He's special.
For Sigler and Vitaly, y'all

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should not forget that name to
man was the Laker for all those

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years.
So it's very special and we said

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why we've had some coaching
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The recently, you know, we got a
new offensive line coach in

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there, we got a new running
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There's some flip-flopping,
let's talk about this because

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you very publicly cosine,
getting tie washed and back in

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here.
You just mentioned his name a

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few minutes ago, you know, when
Joe Rudolph got hired a way to

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Notre Dame.
Obviously the Hokies didn't go

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that way, but can you talk a
little bit about what benefits

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you thought Todd could have
brought to Blacksburg?

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Well, let me just say this
guy's.

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And I appreciate that question
man, because I'll say this and

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this is not me being fake
because I can't be fake.

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I said this on the Big Dog.
Sports Talk Radio Show.

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I do every Thursday morning.
I have my weekly segment and I'm

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going to say this again on y'all
great show.

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I'm a support the higher, the
same way I support if went to a

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in the beginning because I'm a
hokie.

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So whoever he pried his guys
went with, I'm a rock with until

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they show me otherwise, but I
just felt like, went I reached

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out.
You gotta understand something

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like Todd, Derek Smith hogwash,
and Eric Schmidt, Janelle

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DiNapoli, those guys Jay?
Hey good, all those guys, we

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were brothers, for 45 years and
Beyond and I can't describe to

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you the pain, but I'm we're not
biased.

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Either like we'll call each
other out, we but, but I'm

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telling y'all right now, Todd is
a phenomenal coach, and He's a

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great football mind, not just
because he won a Super Bowl as a

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player and a coach, but I felt
like from the need standpoint of

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what we need and Blacksburg.
When I look at the old line last

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year, just to be frank, man.
I was excited about Rudolph

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coming because even back in my
day, Wisconsin, offensive

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lineman have been the standard.
You talking about like the way

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they pushed the pocket, the way
they get to the second level,

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how they Mall people.
You look at guys like Ron, Ain't

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that ran their like I mean they
were running back you and

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regards to just putting out
numbers, I mean, the death style

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win against Ohio State's.
I mean.

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Yeah, but it's tough, but they
still were like take what they

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were consistent program.
So we got Rudolph, I was

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excited.
But if we're being honest, I

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didn't see any improvement with
the offensive line.

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And that's not about Talent.
We had tons of pre-snap

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penalties.
We will undisciplined Many times

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in the our POS we were illegal
man.

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Downfield we look lost you go
back and watch the tape.

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Against ODU, we have moments
when we moved the ball rushing,

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but it's go back and dissect it.
Take, we could not combo block,

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many times, the defense
alignment we're splitting.

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The combos will be couldn't get
to the second level.

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We talked about the turnovers in
that game but look at the pass

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protection.
So if we're being fair and

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honest, Rudolph did not improve
offensive line.

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And I thought Todd Washington, I
don't think Pride need to hide

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everybody that's ever played in
Blacksburg because that would be

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asinine that you don't need to
always bring everybody back.

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I trust him but I thought Todd
would have been great as far as

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x's and o's relatability in.
The fact is is that he's

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coaching the pros right now.
It's not like he is sitting

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around and he's paid his dues
and I'm going to say this and

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I'm going to say this and I
don't normally do this all the

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time.
But this is something Todd said

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when he was on the Vic 757 show
with Mike and I'm talking all

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things Tech.
He's also said this on the

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Victory Life podcast with me,
but it is still tough for black

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men.
To get coaching jobs on the

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Collegiate and pro level, and
that's not a shot at Virginia

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Tech.
I'm just saying that if you look

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at it, you know, he can coach,
he's paid his dues and he has

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been passed over when he was at,
with the Baltimore Ravens, he

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was the assistant offensive line
coach when tie rod was back in

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the Flacco and I posted an
article how he's more than an

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online coach, how he was able to
you know, coach different

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positions.
And I felt like, you know, he

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continuously has to have to jump
through hoops to get that call.

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And I think his children being
in college and being adult

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children.
This was the perfect time and I

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thought it would have been a
great higher and it would also I

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think It's corny as it sounds in
college football.

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You kind of gotta ignite the fan
base with excitement and

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momentum.
Sometimes there's a little bit

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of x's and o's, as well as
marketing, and it's a balance to

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getting like that, buzz going on
on tawa to check both boxes,

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right?
Just to kind of, you know, Lami,

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playing a wrap.
This question up this answer, I

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trust who they hire because I
trust pride and I'm not that

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bias where I'm going Now you
know what?

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I'm done with y'all going.
You know, you're going to hate

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on my midnight on.
I'm grown-ass, man.

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I'm not going.
I'm not gonna give up you know

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I'm saying but I just thought I
would have been great man.

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I mean you gotta understand
something man.

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I redshirted he played as a true
freshman and he was able to play

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guard and both Sinners and he
could snap and long snap and he

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was drafted, he played with the
bucks.

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He went against Warren Sapp and
Darryl Brooks.

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He played on those Tampa Bay
team.

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Has he played for the Texans,
he's coached and Ali, he's coach

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collegially.
So, you know, it is what it is,

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man, but it's a business and
I'll just end with Rudolph man.

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You know, I'm not going to mock
his his goodbye statement to

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Tech, you know, talking about
God.

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This but I'm just over these
guys and you can you can do it.

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I'm just not just smoking some
of these guys that, you know,

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Market.
I just think some of these guys

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get on here and they get and
they put the tech stuff on it.

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These press Is and they talk
that.

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I'm just happy to be here.
I've always wanted to be a hokey

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and it's just it's great to be
here.

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And I just love this place and
my wife, we've already toured

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the town and I'm like, man,
stop, stop capping.

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Like if you're going to be in
it, be in it.

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If you just at the end of your
career when you trying to get

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checks then just be honest.
But don't play with my school.

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Don't play with my University.
You know I'm saying?

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Because I felt like you know, I
didn't see any results and

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that's not nice.
I'm not being personal, but like

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to me Tech is a unique place
where you got to get, guys and

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players that want to be at Tech.
We will never ever see that be

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more longevity, where you had
coaches there for 1624 that time

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has gone.
But you still can't you guys

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that want to be there for
several years?

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So for the foreseeable future.
So I think these hires and the

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staff, you got to make sure you
got the right people.

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That's just my two cents on it,
man.

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We'll listen, man, we, we like
the two cents.

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I think it's more than two since
I think it's a dollar.

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It's okay.
You keep it coming but at

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certain go, what we was talking
about here.

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We appreciate all your Insight
talking about, you know, Todd

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Washington, and just to touch a
little bit kind of what Dwight

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was saying about the minority
coaches.

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It is very hard for minority
coaches to break through and get

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the and get a job or a job that
they're wanting to go into.

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So, just want the retouch on.
And say that but also pivoting

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because you brought up some
stuff.

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You said you trust Pride which
is was this huge and he went out

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and hired a guy to run the old
line and looking at his track

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record looking at his history.
Mr. Ron crook kind of what

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you're thinking about how you
feeling about that.

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What about that picture that you
that wheelchair?

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Yeah, man out there backwards
hat, it would It's a solid

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higher.
I think the one thing I've

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learned as I've gotten older,
since I've done playing, as I

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used to just like an average
values to get excited.

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When a coach one, the press
conference, like when they would

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say all the right things because
they, you know, they did their

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research.
They know what the fans and the

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followers want to hear, but to
be blunt, I don't have favorite

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teams.
My only team is Tech.

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Right?
So to me it's a, what have You

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done for me lately.
So like when I'm looking at in

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the spring and then especially
when we because you know the

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thing about life like it's 2023
like we don't really realize how

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fast life is going right now,
right.

440
00:25:15,300 --> 00:25:17,400
We're going to Blink.
We all going to see each other,

441
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,900
the spring game, take some
pictures and have a great time,

442
00:25:19,900 --> 00:25:22,900
and then we're going to Blink.
It's going to be August and

443
00:25:22,900 --> 00:25:26,000
we're going to be talking to
know, you know, the ACC and you

444
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,100
know where we picked to finish,
right?

445
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,700
So to me, I'm looking like how
we come out again?

446
00:25:30,700 --> 00:25:33,000
So to you, whoever that first
game is, I don't have it in

447
00:25:33,008 --> 00:25:36,700
front of me, then I I'll tell
you how much I like to hire

448
00:25:36,900 --> 00:25:39,300
because I've said this before
and you guys, we all follow each

449
00:25:39,300 --> 00:25:41,300
other on Twitter.
And I've been on a lot of

450
00:25:41,500 --> 00:25:44,700
tallies Twitter spaces.
You can say what you want about

451
00:25:44,700 --> 00:25:48,800
these sexy positions, but
Georgia, Alabama, Tennessee,

452
00:25:49,100 --> 00:25:53,800
Clemson, and the powers-that-be
Ohio State, the teams that win,

453
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,600
even on the high school and
professional level have the l0s,

454
00:25:57,700 --> 00:26:00,600
the old line, indeed, Allah is
Islam and scrimmage players.

455
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:05,200
Georgia has shown you and if you
go back, Back to those long time

456
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,200
tech fans.
They'll tell you look at the old

457
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,400
lines that I played on and they
even the ones after me, Debo

458
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:14,900
Anthony Davis, dwane Brown, we
looked and play like, Georgia,

459
00:26:15,100 --> 00:26:18,100
I'm not saying that we won the
national champ.

460
00:26:18,100 --> 00:26:22,200
I'm just saying, like, we move
people and nasty, you got to

461
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:26,400
have that old line, D line, you
gotta have those Jason world's,

462
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,600
those Hopkins, Brothers on the
d-line and the old line you got

463
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:33,500
to have guys that can get third
and fourth and ones take, take

464
00:26:33,500 --> 00:26:35,900
us back if Works going to be the
guy this one.

465
00:26:35,900 --> 00:26:40,700
I'll know if he's a guy if on
Fourth and third and one we need

466
00:26:40,700 --> 00:26:44,600
a half, a yard or yard and we
get it and we get more than

467
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:48,400
enough then I'll know if the
guys can pick up a back side

468
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:52,200
block and make sure they can get
to the second level.

469
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,100
Then I'll know he give you, he
giving you all that old lion

470
00:26:55,100 --> 00:26:56,500
talk of y'all don't know what
Tommy.

471
00:27:14,700 --> 00:27:20,100
But you win games and you win
4th and 3rd and 1 or 30 and 2 on

472
00:27:20,100 --> 00:27:22,100
Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and
Thursday.

473
00:27:22,500 --> 00:27:26,400
You get from your prep to
assignment and there's also an

474
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,200
ownership of the alignment.
So crook.

475
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,700
I'm room for the guy, probably
going to meet him when I get up

476
00:27:31,700 --> 00:27:33,200
there in a few weeks because I'm
gonna be up.

477
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,200
There I go.
Coach's office.

478
00:27:35,500 --> 00:27:37,400
I'm going to shake his hand.
Hopefully I get to see him and

479
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,400
you know, I'm sure he'll, you
know, talk to me.

480
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,100
If I can, I know they're going
to be coaching, but I'll be up

481
00:27:42,100 --> 00:27:45,800
there Friday, but it ended a man
like, we'll know if he's a good

482
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,200
heart, like, now when JC was
named interim.

483
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,700
And when he was retained, I knew
JC was a good hire because not

484
00:27:52,700 --> 00:27:57,500
only did I play with JC, but I
saw what JC did at JMU and other

485
00:27:57,500 --> 00:28:01,800
universities, because when he
was at JMU, when the best teams

486
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,300
in Tech History, he coached JMU
You up and they upset.

487
00:28:05,300 --> 00:28:09,800
Virginia Tech, 16:7 so JC, price
has a track record.

488
00:28:09,900 --> 00:28:16,500
He also could recruit so crook
for me, I got to wait and see.

489
00:28:16,700 --> 00:28:22,200
Now from his resume he looks the
part, but when say has some guys

490
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:27,000
to look the part to let me
pivoted this, because with the

491
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,800
crocheting, like you look on
paper, you feel good, right?

492
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,200
It's like he coached Cincinnati
to a playoff berth, West

493
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,800
Virginia was running.
All down people's throat, the

494
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:40,200
Stanford offensive lines when he
was there, good, but you always

495
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,300
mention JB G.
That was your coach, absolutely.

496
00:28:43,300 --> 00:28:45,600
And I'm going to Pivot to this
because I need to know how the

497
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:51,400
mentality of a player work.
And in 98 JB left your senior

498
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,600
year JB left.
He went down to Texas A&M and

499
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,200
Brian Stein.
Spring, took over from your

500
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,400
perspective.
How does that impact you in the

501
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,800
offseason?
I mean these guys were working

502
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,000
their butts off.
In Winter workouts, Rudolph was

503
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,600
a Are you get near the end?
You're going to go on spring

504
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:10,000
break, coaches leaving.
We don't know who the coach is

505
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,300
yet you come back, I'll spring
break down else crook.

506
00:29:12,300 --> 00:29:15,500
I'm sure the kids probably knew
the week of spring break who it

507
00:29:15,500 --> 00:29:18,900
was but just that perspective,
from you, going through a

508
00:29:18,900 --> 00:29:23,000
coaching change in your time.
What's the mentality?

509
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,100
Like yeah that's actually a
great question man.

510
00:29:26,100 --> 00:29:29,300
You know, I was spoiled at
Hampton High School because

511
00:29:29,300 --> 00:29:32,300
coach Mike Smith coach, 50 years
at Hampton High School, they won

512
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,300
14 States Championship.
Two national championships is

513
00:29:36,300 --> 00:29:39,400
got NFL Hall of Fame is at the
same old line and d-line coach

514
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:44,100
in high school saying staff.
So Hampton was really, really

515
00:29:44,100 --> 00:29:46,600
good.
And, you know, at the end of the

516
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,200
day, same thing, I text, so
stability and consistency was

517
00:29:50,500 --> 00:29:55,100
were all our new when JB left.
It was sad.

518
00:29:55,100 --> 00:29:57,600
We loved him.
I mean he was so if you ever

519
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:02,000
seen Full Metal Jacket, that's
how in Tennessee was now, I was

520
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,000
not, I was never like problem
earlier.

521
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,100
Army.
Yeah, I wasn't I wasn't proud of

522
00:30:06,108 --> 00:30:08,300
the pile or whatever.
Nobody was going to off himself.

523
00:30:08,300 --> 00:30:11,000
I'm not making fun of suicide.
I'm just saying that movie but

524
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,000
like this.
That's how hard it was on us and

525
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,100
start spring was a tight end
Coach.

526
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:20,600
So at that time, the tight end
and o-line coaches work

527
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:24,700
together.
So, when Stein spring took over,

528
00:30:24,700 --> 00:30:28,500
and he wasn't really foreign to
us, we knew him, but there was a

529
00:30:28,508 --> 00:30:31,200
little bit of a transition
because transferring had a

530
00:30:31,208 --> 00:30:34,800
different style.
He was more fun, loving He got

531
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,100
on you but he was a player's
coach.

532
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,000
So, he would get on you and pull
you to the side.

533
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,100
When JB would undress you
verbally in front of the old

534
00:30:43,100 --> 00:30:48,400
snap, the whole team.
So we knew he left for his

535
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:52,400
family, it was a better
opportunity, he's a sec guy, so

536
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,800
he supported that, but it's
tough.

537
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:59,300
But I will say, the one thing
Beamer was masterful that he was

538
00:30:59,300 --> 00:31:03,400
always one step ahead of
changes, right?

539
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,900
So so if he knew a guy was going
to leave, well, he wanted to

540
00:31:06,900 --> 00:31:10,100
bring he knew how to move the
chest because I think later in

541
00:31:10,100 --> 00:31:13,600
Beamers career, it kind of got
funky because then he got into

542
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,700
Leffler who was not a tech guy.
Michael Caine, who was in over

543
00:31:17,700 --> 00:31:19,900
his head, had been fired from
two different jobs.

544
00:31:20,300 --> 00:31:22,600
I think that's when you kind of
knew was kind of changed in

545
00:31:22,608 --> 00:31:25,200
Blacksburg.
I think the players now will

546
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,900
goes to their head is like, you
know, we need somebody in here

547
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:32,100
because like text identity is
not established.

548
00:31:32,100 --> 00:31:34,000
You have toddler bowling who I
know him.

549
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,100
Spec.
But as far as that old line

550
00:31:37,100 --> 00:31:40,300
peace when you lose your
position coach as you head into

551
00:31:40,300 --> 00:31:43,600
this Frame it's going to be a
little bit with awkwardness and

552
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,100
it's going to be a little bit of
change and I'll say this on

553
00:31:46,100 --> 00:31:50,300
y'all show too I don't think
fans really understand.

554
00:31:51,100 --> 00:31:55,000
We watch the press conferences
on hokey Sports and we see them

555
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:59,100
come out and they introduced by
Witt Babcock and all of that and

556
00:31:59,100 --> 00:32:02,100
they talk about whatever.
But when you come to a new

557
00:32:02,100 --> 00:32:06,400
University, there is So much the
coach has to do.

558
00:32:06,500 --> 00:32:09,100
He's gotta learn where all the
stores are the grocery stores.

559
00:32:09,100 --> 00:32:11,700
He's gotta learn.
The exits is got to get adjusted

560
00:32:11,700 --> 00:32:13,100
to wherever he's going to be
living.

561
00:32:13,300 --> 00:32:15,900
He has kids, they got to get
them register for school.

562
00:32:16,100 --> 00:32:19,000
You got to get your moving truck
company and stuff, ready.

563
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,200
We also got to meet your
co-workers, your coaching staff.

564
00:32:22,300 --> 00:32:24,800
You got to get used to the
climate because Blacksburg and

565
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,100
whatever, Southwest Virginia is
different from different places.

566
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,300
You also got to get an
understanding for your players.

567
00:32:31,300 --> 00:32:34,000
You got to watch tape to see,
okay, who am I working?

568
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,900
With who am I guys?
Who am I going to bench?

569
00:32:36,900 --> 00:32:40,300
All that has to happen and now
you got the screen coming up,

570
00:32:40,300 --> 00:32:43,000
where you got to coach them up,
it's tough.

571
00:32:43,100 --> 00:32:45,200
And I'll tell you, I didn't
really care about losing a

572
00:32:45,208 --> 00:32:48,200
quarterback coach, but losing
Rudolph was a challenge.

573
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:52,000
The great thing is, you lose
them now versus in August.

574
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:56,100
But I would tell you that, that
is, this is my biggest concern

575
00:32:56,100 --> 00:33:00,600
because continuity, chemistry
and cohesiveness is essential

576
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,500
and the offensive line does not
have that right now.

577
00:33:05,300 --> 00:33:07,500
They're working on their third
coach, in three years.

578
00:33:07,500 --> 00:33:11,200
So it's a struggle.
I mean, you got some veterans,

579
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,300
especially they've seen all
three of them.

580
00:33:13,900 --> 00:33:17,100
Yeah.
And and it's a big switch going

581
00:33:17,100 --> 00:33:20,000
from what advice did to what
Rudolph did to probably what

582
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,100
Crooks going to do, the, all
three of those are doing things

583
00:33:22,100 --> 00:33:24,300
completely differently.
So it's gonna be interesting to

584
00:33:24,308 --> 00:33:26,100
see how that shakes out.
Yeah, sure.

585
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:28,300
Let's talk about the other
coach.

586
00:33:28,300 --> 00:33:29,600
We got it house, though.
We got Elijah.

587
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,200
Brooks running backs.
Feel a little bit like history

588
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,400
repeating itself.
The math of connection, he's

589
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,700
coaching running back just like
Billy Hite and also we got you

590
00:33:38,708 --> 00:33:41,800
to the Mike young and Mike Jones
effect seems like just a theme

591
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,000
in Blacksburg to pull them to
math to coaches in there.

592
00:33:44,300 --> 00:33:46,100
How you feeling about Coach
Brooks doing this?

593
00:33:46,100 --> 00:33:48,400
I like that higher.
I like that higher.

594
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,300
You get took Maryland.
Maryland has never really

595
00:33:51,300 --> 00:33:53,100
challenged with jeans other than
that nonsense.

596
00:33:53,100 --> 00:33:56,000
In that book Pinstripe Bowl,
we've owned, Maryland and

597
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,400
football because I live up here.
Maryland is more of a basketball

598
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,900
school.
I've been Open up here in the

599
00:34:01,900 --> 00:34:04,300
DMV.
For 20-some years, Marilyn has

600
00:34:04,300 --> 00:34:06,500
some moments where Ralph region
be man's best friend.

601
00:34:06,500 --> 00:34:09,800
But they have never really, you
know, captured getting their

602
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,300
in-state Talent or even guys,
they'll get a player here and

603
00:34:12,300 --> 00:34:14,100
there.
But here, recently started to

604
00:34:14,107 --> 00:34:18,300
pick up momentum but at the same
time, getting the lives in coach

605
00:34:18,300 --> 00:34:21,100
Elijah and was huge because I
look at connections and

606
00:34:21,100 --> 00:34:22,900
relationships did the math that
connection.

607
00:34:22,900 --> 00:34:27,000
Also, the Maryland d.c. guys, I
look at like the DMV including

608
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:32,600
if you want to go DMV 8 0 4 7 5
7 and the 4 Before Lynchburg

609
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:36,400
Central Virginia and North
Carolina is a hotbed for talent,

610
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,800
right?
And I think when Tech had their

611
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,900
best years we talked and this is
enormous 757 guy.

612
00:34:42,900 --> 00:34:46,400
But respectfully, we talked way
too much about a 757.

613
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,400
When some of the best players
were in those other areas.

614
00:34:50,100 --> 00:34:51,600
Jerry Boykin is a North
Carolina.

615
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,699
Got Charlotte.
Josh Morgan is a Southeast d.c.

616
00:34:54,699 --> 00:34:57,000
guy.
He's been on the Vic 757 show.

617
00:34:57,100 --> 00:34:59,500
Eddie Royal is a northern
Virginia guy Westfield, High

618
00:34:59,500 --> 00:35:02,800
School, Corey Moore, a Jew.
Zuko guy, he's from Tennessee.

619
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,800
You look at Kevin Jones, he's
from Pennsylvania.

620
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,200
So some of the best players are
not from the 757.

621
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,600
Some of them are from them
surrounding areas but you had a

622
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:17,000
great mix of proximity and the
demographics.

623
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,900
It was just like a great recipe
that pot that being were created

624
00:35:19,900 --> 00:35:24,000
recipe of getting those guys.
It was a great mix of a coach

625
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,900
coach Brooks.
You know, you're coming in to

626
00:35:26,900 --> 00:35:30,200
where he can get those guys
because the one thing about

627
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:34,600
Marilyn, The Virginia Tech fan
base up here in alumni live up

628
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,000
here and especially when we are
really rolling as far as

629
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,900
performing well on the field.
If you get on 66 and 495 we

630
00:35:41,900 --> 00:35:44,900
playing FedEx or if you're in DC
and Maryland other than North

631
00:35:44,900 --> 00:35:48,300
Carolina, the Virginia Tech
alumni presence up here in the

632
00:35:48,300 --> 00:35:53,100
DC area is huge and it all you
just got to do is get them a

633
00:35:53,100 --> 00:35:56,600
product and I think that was it
quietly.

634
00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:00,100
That was a huge higher.
It's one of those times where

635
00:36:00,100 --> 00:36:01,200
we'll look back and be like,
wow.

636
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,800
Now that he's getting this kid
and good naked because cut 100,

637
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,800
I said this on tallies podcast I
mean show post game one day.

638
00:36:10,500 --> 00:36:13,400
Contrary to popular belief and I
can speak on this because of

639
00:36:13,408 --> 00:36:17,400
what I do there are a lot of
young uns right now in middle

640
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,200
school and high school who still
want to be at Tech.

641
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,800
I know there's this
misconception that all wear

642
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,500
brand is so trash.
No bro.

643
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:31,100
There are a lot of kids in
Maryland and PG County and in DC

644
00:36:31,100 --> 00:36:35,000
and and even Northern Virginia,
who would like praying for

645
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,800
takeoff, or who are high three
low four stars, good players,

646
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:43,200
that end up have been going to
pit, Wake Forest Penn State and

647
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:47,900
West Virginia not anymore
because you take a look at what

648
00:36:47,900 --> 00:36:54,000
he did with Brooks like you said
You have a guy like that, who's

649
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,300
clearly, he's already on the
field coaching.

650
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,100
He's already proven.
He can do it at the Collegiate

651
00:36:58,100 --> 00:37:01,600
level four years in.
We talked last week, he's got

652
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,800
running backs in the league,
he's getting guys over 1,000

653
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,500
yards, what he did at the math
of speaks for itself.

654
00:37:06,500 --> 00:37:10,100
That eight-year run.
He had as unbelievable button.

655
00:37:10,100 --> 00:37:14,000
Hell is Brian talked about the
WC AC conference.

656
00:37:14,500 --> 00:37:15,800
He's gonna know all those
coaches.

657
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,600
He probably knows, everybody up
in the northern Virginia.

658
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,200
Everybody in the DC area.
Yeah.

659
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,700
So it's Not even issue of him
walking in, and it's a

660
00:37:23,707 --> 00:37:26,800
handshake.
And knowing that, that coach, if

661
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:31,200
I recruit that kid, I trust him.
Yes, I know what he's done at

662
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,400
that high school.
I know what he did at Maryland?

663
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,200
Yes, trust you to go there, he's
gonna get you in the right

664
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,400
direction and sometimes that is
the best selling point.

665
00:37:39,500 --> 00:37:41,600
Yeah, we can all get me on my
soapbox here.

666
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,700
Let me tell him it's good.
It's good.

667
00:37:43,700 --> 00:37:51,700
That was good.
Curtis Sublime coach in the

668
00:37:51,700 --> 00:37:53,700
door.
This late in the cycle to get a

669
00:37:53,707 --> 00:37:57,200
guy like Brooks a, I'm going to
be interested what Chris Coleman

670
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:58,000
said.
The other week, I'm going to be

671
00:37:58,008 --> 00:38:00,300
interested to see how much money
we paid these guys.

672
00:38:00,300 --> 00:38:03,400
Yes, I think we shelled out some
but to do this.

673
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,600
We also had a move coaches.
We moved to hold from the

674
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:10,400
running back, coach to the tight
end Coach, where he spent a lot

675
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,300
of his time in his crew, and
special teams, tally gave a

676
00:38:13,300 --> 00:38:16,900
great break down last week.
Talking about him coaching tight

677
00:38:16,900 --> 00:38:19,800
ends is probably better for the
Special Teams because more tight

678
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,500
ends play special teams.
James, thanks for that out, that

679
00:38:22,500 --> 00:38:26,700
stuff tally, but the big one and
everybody's raising hell and

680
00:38:26,700 --> 00:38:29,800
upset and mad and it's trash and
we're stupid.

681
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,200
And we're its jokes, is Tyler
bone moved from the tight ends

682
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,600
room to the quarterback coach
and room a lot of debate.

683
00:38:36,900 --> 00:38:40,100
Lot of logic, he's a green OC.
We know that.

684
00:38:40,100 --> 00:38:44,300
We know that first of it.
First power, 5 job as a no.

685
00:38:44,300 --> 00:38:48,200
See but Let me get your opinion
on this.

686
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,400
What are the risk?
What are the rewards of having

687
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,900
him as the QB coach?
Because we set here last week

688
00:38:53,900 --> 00:38:57,600
and we said, well, he recruited
drones who was a four-star kid.

689
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:01,100
He's got him out of Baylor and
he stole the kid up from

690
00:39:01,100 --> 00:39:03,300
Massachusetts.
From Nebraska was a four-star

691
00:39:03,300 --> 00:39:06,800
kid just needs a my quarterbacks
they're not y'alls.

692
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,800
What do you think about the move
of moyen?

693
00:39:08,900 --> 00:39:11,400
Are you know what I did spend a
lot of time I was asked about

694
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,600
this last Thursday and you guys
are my guys, I'll be flat-out

695
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,600
honest with y'all.
It's not amazing.

696
00:39:16,700 --> 00:39:19,000
Your concern for me because
here's the concern.

697
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:23,700
I have.
We got to get Talent especially

698
00:39:23,700 --> 00:39:27,000
at the quarterback position.
Like, you know, I'll tell you,

699
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,400
I'ma tell y'all, man.
Let me tell y'all something,

700
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:30,500
nothing.
I'm telling y'all, like y'all

701
00:39:30,500 --> 00:39:33,100
don't know this time.
I'll speak it.

702
00:39:33,100 --> 00:39:37,400
Amen, you got a Brian Randall, a
Tyrod Taylor.

703
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:41,200
A Marcus Vick a gym drunken
Miller, Al Clark.

704
00:39:41,700 --> 00:39:43,800
It don't matter.
If you got Kermit the Frog as

705
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,600
the quarterback coach because
the reality.

706
00:39:46,700 --> 00:39:49,500
She is, is that I can tell you,
hey, man, make sure you be

707
00:39:49,500 --> 00:39:52,700
careful what your site, adjust?
A that backers moving up, man.

708
00:39:52,900 --> 00:39:56,400
You know, look, if they come up
and they go cover 3, we got to

709
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,900
make sure we check to that draw.
I can tell you all that, but if

710
00:39:59,900 --> 00:40:03,500
you are scared or you have no
Mobility or you, you melt in the

711
00:40:03,500 --> 00:40:06,700
moment, it doesn't matter
truthfully.

712
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,900
We got to get more talent and
that's not a shot at the

713
00:40:09,900 --> 00:40:13,200
quarterback.
We have now that's a shot at the

714
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,000
circus.
We've had at quarterback since

715
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,800
Jerrod Evans is left.
Because it's not been

716
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,300
sustainable.
So if you want to know my

717
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,500
opinion about it, I'm not as
concerned about Boeing's ability

718
00:40:24,500 --> 00:40:28,400
to coach her quarterback, it's
more so about, can we get some

719
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:32,900
talent in there?
That can make plays like that

720
00:40:32,900 --> 00:40:37,200
whole Miracle against Nebraska
tie rod?

721
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,000
Did it tie rod did it?
I'm no tie rod since he was six

722
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,100
years old, his dad played in my
high school.

723
00:40:42,100 --> 00:40:45,100
He's older than me.
I knew Tara was a dog when he

724
00:40:45,100 --> 00:40:46,500
was playing for the Lindsay
tornadoes.

725
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:50,300
When he was in Middle School,
tie rod is Elite.

726
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,600
He was special on the Collegiate
level.

727
00:40:52,900 --> 00:40:56,600
So whoever the quarterback coach
was or I think Stein spring was

728
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,800
the o.c. and start spraying.
I'm biased.

729
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,800
That's my guy love them with.
He's like a father Uncle to me

730
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,200
but that was all tie rod and
Daniel Cole, you know I'm

731
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:09,700
saying, tie rod is running, he's
waving dyrell Roberts, you got

732
00:41:09,700 --> 00:41:13,600
and Annika Sue, hanging on his
jersey and he throws a dart to

733
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,200
Darrell.
That's not coaching that's

734
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:17,100
plane.
Taking.

735
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:22,300
And if you look at Virginia Tech
last year and the games they

736
00:41:22,300 --> 00:41:27,700
lost, and they lost a lot of
close games turnovers, not learn

737
00:41:27,700 --> 00:41:30,500
how to finish, but they also
lost the teams especially when

738
00:41:30,500 --> 00:41:33,200
they got blown out.
It was because the other team

739
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:38,300
have Playmakers, like, like UNC
has a pleasure greater

740
00:41:38,300 --> 00:41:40,400
quarterback, you know, I'm
saying.

741
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:44,500
So Curtis man, like, I'm not
about to spend to mind.

742
00:41:44,500 --> 00:41:46,500
I respect when, you know, I love
my father.

743
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,000
Was in the fans.
I love child.

744
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,700
No, I don't really get
argumentative because I'm always

745
00:41:50,700 --> 00:41:53,800
learning I learned from y'all.
I learned from tally, so I'm not

746
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,900
going to talk, like I know it
all because I mean it's a valid

747
00:41:56,900 --> 00:42:01,300
concern but I just think when
you look at our talent I mean we

748
00:42:01,300 --> 00:42:04,800
getting kids in now, we got to
get some more Playmakers, man,

749
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:10,000
like that that game against West
Virginia man you know we

750
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,600
overthrew to wide open,
touchdown passes right?

751
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,100
And then one time, it hit dude
in a helmet.

752
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,700
You know what I mean?
That ain't quarterback coach,

753
00:42:20,700 --> 00:42:24,200
and that's not making plays if
that makes, you know I'm saying?

754
00:42:24,300 --> 00:42:26,800
Yeah, so definitely, definitely
what you, what?

755
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:30,200
You write, what we need to.
Because we going, we're going to

756
00:42:30,207 --> 00:42:32,200
jump into that here in just a
second.

757
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,200
I know, we got to get ready to
take a break to pay some bills,

758
00:42:35,500 --> 00:42:38,200
but we going to jump into you,
hit a couple of points that I

759
00:42:38,207 --> 00:42:42,200
want to talk to you about.
Yeah the big thing with the you

760
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,800
talking about the playmaker I
mean that's what we didn't have

761
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:48,300
last year mean guys and crunch
time just not making the plays.

762
00:42:48,300 --> 00:42:51,500
Whether it's a lime and missing
a block or blowing an assignment

763
00:42:51,700 --> 00:42:53,900
or receiver.
Not being where needs to be or

764
00:42:53,900 --> 00:42:55,800
an overthrow.
I mean there was thing plays all

765
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:57,000
over the field.
I'm looking at the tape.

766
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,800
I'm like, you know, we like one
or two plays away from making

767
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,700
something happen here.
But guys aren't making the place

768
00:43:02,700 --> 00:43:05,200
consistently.
Yeah, and that's what it is.

769
00:43:05,300 --> 00:43:08,300
It was man.
And I mean, I mean and they

770
00:43:08,300 --> 00:43:11,400
would never felt like the The
old line deal on a special teams

771
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:16,100
were on the same page.
It almost at times look like we

772
00:43:16,100 --> 00:43:18,000
were scared to win.
We had games.

773
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:22,900
I mean that NC State game at NC
State was a prime example, I

774
00:43:22,900 --> 00:43:25,500
mean they had it but you drop
picks.

775
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,200
The older you game was there.
I was there I had foot.

776
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,700
I have front row seats and I'm
going to tell you some of y'all

777
00:43:30,700 --> 00:43:32,200
talk about my son Isaiah
earlier.

778
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:36,200
He leans over to me, it was me
him in my wife and he said, you

779
00:43:36,207 --> 00:43:39,000
know, Dad you're not making game
when in place.

780
00:43:39,700 --> 00:43:42,300
And I said, dad and they weren't
they?

781
00:43:42,300 --> 00:43:45,900
We dropped four people, right?
We drop you right, wrongs wrong.

782
00:43:46,900 --> 00:43:50,100
We dropped pigs.
So again, you can talk about,

783
00:43:50,100 --> 00:43:54,700
like, you know, coaching prior
admitted that he, you know, he

784
00:43:54,700 --> 00:43:57,700
has some time management issues
and things like that.

785
00:43:57,700 --> 00:44:01,300
But for me, when I look at that
game, you know, it's so funny.

786
00:44:01,300 --> 00:44:04,700
I was coach very well throughout
my career once I stepped on the

787
00:44:04,700 --> 00:44:09,000
field, I was prepared and you
guys all competed in play.

788
00:44:09,700 --> 00:44:13,300
I then became a player like it's
only so much a coach can do for

789
00:44:13,300 --> 00:44:17,000
me when you going against the
Miami Hurricanes the Clemson's.

790
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,200
You know, the West Virginia is
the Syracuse.

791
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,200
The players all played against
the Vani holidays that have been

792
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,700
used Acura bonds.
You got to be a man, I can't be

793
00:44:26,700 --> 00:44:29,300
out here looking to the
sideline, you know, like Kevin

794
00:44:29,300 --> 00:44:35,300
Hart, help me.
I, you know, I'm saying.

795
00:44:35,300 --> 00:44:40,900
So I mean, I'm not, I'm not.
I'm just one, I just want your

796
00:44:40,900 --> 00:44:44,500
listeners and viewers to
understand that it comes down

797
00:44:44,500 --> 00:44:47,100
to.
We got to have talent like you

798
00:44:47,100 --> 00:44:49,600
go back in the history of
Virginia Tech you to go back to.

799
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,900
You know, when people first got
there and the antoniou frame is

800
00:44:52,900 --> 00:44:56,600
and all them, they make your job
easier, you know?

801
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,800
It's just like, you know, we try
my son in basketball, man, it

802
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:03,200
helps when you are 66 and it
helps when you have a shooter, a

803
00:45:03,207 --> 00:45:05,500
helps when you have a bench, you
know.

804
00:45:05,500 --> 00:45:08,900
So I'm both.
Boom, boom was going to be fine,

805
00:45:08,900 --> 00:45:10,800
but we got to get Quarterback
position, right?

806
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:12,700
Absolutely.
I'm with you on that.

807
00:45:12,700 --> 00:45:14,200
I think it's going to be players
first.

808
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,100
You get the players players will
always make coaches look better.

809
00:45:17,500 --> 00:45:21,700
Any level of any sport, great
players make coaches look

810
00:45:21,700 --> 00:45:23,700
better.
Now let me do this real quick

811
00:45:23,700 --> 00:45:26,500
because we you're going to touch
on what tallies go ask about

812
00:45:26,500 --> 00:45:29,400
when we come out of break before
we get into more topics and we

813
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,200
got a lot more to unload with
the white they care tonight.

814
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,200
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815
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,900
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Now, back to the episode, go
tally, go.

824
00:46:01,500 --> 00:46:05,800
If you living under a rock, if
you haven't been tuned in, we

825
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,400
glad you finally.
Here, we're here with the white

826
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,400
Vic.
Why it was touching on a couple

827
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:15,100
of things that like I said, it
was near and dear to my heart

828
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:17,500
before break.
So, if y'all haven't heard it,

829
00:46:17,500 --> 00:46:19,200
you going to go back and listen
to it later on.

830
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,300
But Dwight was talking about
last year.

831
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,000
Brett prize, first year, three
and eight out the gate.

832
00:46:25,700 --> 00:46:28,900
Yeah.
People on a cliff Vic Vic.

833
00:46:28,900 --> 00:46:30,900
Vic had to talk me out the cliff
plenty of time.

834
00:46:30,900 --> 00:46:36,300
Yeah, yeah but when we talk
about that season we lost a lot

835
00:46:36,300 --> 00:46:41,000
of games by little bit of points
I think for Games, 11-point,

836
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,700
something like that.
Nobody really was predicting us

837
00:46:43,700 --> 00:46:47,500
the win last year, but Brent
Prime, he owned up and he talked

838
00:46:47,500 --> 00:46:50,000
about it, a lot.
He talked about, we have to

839
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:54,000
learn how to win and he say, we
as in coaches and players, we

840
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,400
have to learn how to do this.
So Vic I want you to touch on

841
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,000
that for me, huh?
And just tell them, tell us in

842
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:01,800
the viewers kind of what that
means to you.

843
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,300
When you hear that.
Yeah, I was adamant, man and I

844
00:47:04,308 --> 00:47:06,600
said this even going back to the
Fuente era.

845
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,400
His last three years.
They're on different platforms.

846
00:47:09,500 --> 00:47:11,200
At forms, including your Twitter
spaces.

847
00:47:11,700 --> 00:47:14,200
And this is not I know there was
a tortoise face one time it was

848
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,700
either in yours tallies or it
was Dawn V when somebody came

849
00:47:17,700 --> 00:47:20,400
and I think my man had too many
to drink but I kind of felt what

850
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:25,800
he was saying he was saying as
far as we got to get those

851
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:27,700
flinte guys, out of there.
I thought there was a bit

852
00:47:27,700 --> 00:47:30,100
disrespectful but I think what
he was trying to say.

853
00:47:30,100 --> 00:47:35,900
And I hate to assume his like
When you are not used to winning

854
00:47:36,300 --> 00:47:39,800
losing the comes expect it like,
it's like, here we go again,

855
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:44,700
like I had the great Trey Turner
on the Vic 757 show with me and

856
00:47:44,700 --> 00:47:48,500
Mike are first season.
And Trey, Turner said, a yo,

857
00:47:48,500 --> 00:47:50,800
y'all like I don't think y'all
realize to me and Mike.

858
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:54,600
He said I played with seven
quarterbacks and he still had

859
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:58,000
his last year left and I was
like, yo that's wild to me

860
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:02,700
because that's unacceptable and
even though Fuente was known as

861
00:48:02,700 --> 00:48:04,700
the court.
Back Whispering, Ryan, Willis,

862
00:48:04,700 --> 00:48:07,600
and all those guys have moments
from my store and all those

863
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:11,200
guys.
Ultimately, I think that look

864
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,400
that's more about your culture.
I felt like last year was a

865
00:48:14,408 --> 00:48:18,600
microcosm of guys, not knowing
how to win.

866
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:22,900
Like I love Dax hollifield.
I like I think Dex personifies

867
00:48:22,900 --> 00:48:25,700
what it means to sacrifice and
really care about your school.

868
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,400
But at the same time and like
Dax has never been in a

869
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:33,000
situation other than that year
and I think it was an act.

870
00:48:33,300 --> 00:48:36,000
When when they first got there,
they were in the coastal.

871
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:40,300
But like for me and guys that
came after me like the

872
00:48:40,300 --> 00:48:43,200
expectations of 11 wins
conference Champs and plenty of

873
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:47,600
in the BCS Bowl, Alliance Bowl,
Sugar Bowl, the Orange Bowl like

874
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,700
one year, we went to the Gator
Bowl we finish second and that

875
00:48:50,700 --> 00:48:53,600
was just, it was terrible.
It was unacceptable.

876
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:57,000
So, when you are used to
winning, no matter what you

877
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,400
play, it's a certain mindset
when you step on the field, when

878
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,400
you step on the court like you
expect to win he so you make

879
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,900
game winning.
Plays, you know, you know, when

880
00:49:04,900 --> 00:49:09,100
it's tripta football like you go
back to one of the most

881
00:49:09,100 --> 00:49:11,100
talented, Virginia Tech teams
ever.

882
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,000
I've said this to D'angelo, we
joke about it.

883
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:18,400
Now we didn't talk about it then
that 2003 Virginia Tech team is

884
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,700
well, that's Tech teams and
Virginia.

885
00:49:20,700 --> 00:49:24,000
Tech History, Jake, Grove,
Ernest, Wilford DeAngelo, Hall,

886
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,800
Eric green, Jimmy Williams.
Brian Randall, I can go on and

887
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,900
on, he went eight and they went
eight and five.

888
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,100
They beat they beat LSU, they'd
be texting him.

889
00:49:34,100 --> 00:49:38,200
They be they beat Marshall, but
then they lost to Boston College

890
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,300
and other teams that they were
better than, right?

891
00:49:40,300 --> 00:49:43,000
But that Miami team.
They beat, they showed you for

892
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,300
one game.
What they would have been Miami

893
00:49:45,300 --> 00:49:47,400
gang.
And I only came into that game

894
00:49:47,500 --> 00:49:52,300
on a 31 game, winning streak,
and DeAngelo Hall, and the press

895
00:49:52,300 --> 00:49:55,000
conference before the game said,
I don't think Miami is good as

896
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:56,700
y'all make him out to be more
than like that.

897
00:49:56,700 --> 00:49:58,400
He put a Muslim deal.
All right.

898
00:49:58,700 --> 00:50:01,200
What did they all do?
What did they all do?

899
00:50:01,500 --> 00:50:06,100
He's old, he took the ball from
Rosco strip them and from that

900
00:50:06,100 --> 00:50:09,800
moment on they punch Miami in
the mouth, had Winslow on the

901
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:15,100
sidelines, real throw hands,
Brock Berlin was on the field,

902
00:50:15,100 --> 00:50:18,700
crying facing the grass.
The point I'm bringing out, it's

903
00:50:18,700 --> 00:50:21,100
not the Nostalgia.
I'm talking about is that team

904
00:50:21,500 --> 00:50:24,200
and teams like that, made game
winning plays.

905
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,600
I saw us last year in games,
man.

906
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,200
We just look, we look like the
Georgia Tech game.

907
00:50:31,300 --> 00:50:35,300
Georgia Tech game, we had that
game and what happened?

908
00:50:35,300 --> 00:50:39,400
Which was I think to go up two
scores and The Young and the

909
00:50:39,408 --> 00:50:41,800
running back King fumbles,
right?

910
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:46,500
And I'm not blaming for the
laws, they punch the ball out,

911
00:50:46,500 --> 00:50:50,300
but again, if you're used to
making plays, you scoring that

912
00:50:50,300 --> 00:50:53,700
you hold the ball, you know, how
to secure it, you don't have a

913
00:50:53,700 --> 00:50:57,600
hole in it and ran in reciprocal
reciprocating that use.

914
00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:59,000
You have a sudden change like
that.

915
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,700
Your defense goes out there and
they get a stop and get The ball

916
00:51:01,700 --> 00:51:02,900
back.
Yeah, yeah.

917
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:07,800
Look at the year before the year
before, against Syracuse for

918
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:12,000
today's last year, you know, you
up by 9 with a minute and a half

919
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,800
left and you lose that game, I
think it was two minutes left,

920
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:18,400
you lose that game.
Look at the game against Notre

921
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,100
Dame the year before.
I know that's not prize yet but

922
00:51:21,100 --> 00:51:26,100
those the same players that was
up non Notre Dame the same guys

923
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,100
nortre Dame that year was a
playoff team and they were

924
00:51:29,100 --> 00:51:33,400
rocking and Blacksburg you got
the Pick six and they melted.

925
00:51:33,700 --> 00:51:37,600
And it's not that they are
afraid or they're not smart.

926
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,200
It's just and for anybody else
never played.

927
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,500
I can't really give it to you
verbally.

928
00:51:42,500 --> 00:51:44,200
I can't verbalize to you what it
means.

929
00:51:44,500 --> 00:51:48,600
It's just something you know,
when you know how to win and you

930
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,500
got to have winners.
I'll tell you right now.

931
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,100
I've said this to you guys off
offline.

932
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:58,300
Guys like Caleb, Woodson.
Brilliant Johnson, these guys,

933
00:51:58,300 --> 00:52:00,300
they're bringing in from
Highland Springs from

934
00:52:00,300 --> 00:52:05,400
Battlefield.
All winners, the winners I ate.

935
00:52:05,700 --> 00:52:09,500
I like winners when we win The
Sun, Shines brighter, the food

936
00:52:09,500 --> 00:52:12,500
Isabel's.
My bed feels better.

937
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:17,000
Now I can watch, I can watch the
other games with pride because

938
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,600
we won and I can I can feel
good.

939
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:23,300
I can watch highlights and not
be afraid you know when we lose.

940
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:25,200
And you know, I'm telling you
man.

941
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,100
Last year was to the point, man.
Like, I remember me and Mike,

942
00:52:28,100 --> 00:52:30,900
were talking and we were truck
and this is, this is how

943
00:52:30,900 --> 00:52:35,400
dangerous Losing is we're trying
to get focused and get excited

944
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,900
to do a show because we've been
losing so much.

945
00:52:40,900 --> 00:52:44,100
You gotta tell us man.
Yep, every week.

946
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,700
Yeah.
Leave his face every week with

947
00:52:46,700 --> 00:52:48,300
Curtis.
Curtis Curtis.

948
00:52:48,300 --> 00:52:50,900
Check it out.
We are media people.

949
00:52:51,700 --> 00:52:56,700
Imagine the players.
Oh, I couldn't, I couldn't.

950
00:52:56,700 --> 00:52:59,000
Oh yeah.
You got something for me about

951
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:02,700
what happened near the end of
season because You talked about

952
00:53:02,700 --> 00:53:05,800
not winning in just a few weeks
ago we had fontelle Minds on.

953
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:07,100
I don't know if you caught that
yet.

954
00:53:07,100 --> 00:53:11,200
Listen to that interview.
We talked about the plays the

955
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:14,600
Liberty game, they made all the
place, right?

956
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:16,300
Yeah.
It made all the plays.

957
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,200
They did everything the the
often scored the defense.

958
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,400
Stop to offense, didn't let him
get the ball back.

959
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,300
But Brian, you got some shoot
shoot.

960
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:27,300
When we were looking at that, it
wasn't a perfect game, but they

961
00:53:27,700 --> 00:53:29,900
made the plays.
They had to make the close it

962
00:53:29,900 --> 00:53:31,200
out, which is some we hadn't
seen.

963
00:53:31,300 --> 00:53:34,200
All year, but it looked like
also offensively.

964
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:37,500
There was some shift in
philosophy, kind of the starting

965
00:53:37,500 --> 00:53:39,800
the couple weeks before that,
but really kind of came to a

966
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,600
head in that game.
Have you ever experienced kind

967
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,000
of having to shift gears like
that when things weren't quite

968
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,200
working for you?
And you kind of had to do a

969
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,800
little little things different,
and what type of impact did that

970
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:51,600
have on the team?
Whether that's positive or

971
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,000
negative?
I mean, it's hard.

972
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,500
I think when you, this is the
one thing I've said this to you

973
00:53:56,500 --> 00:54:00,400
guys, before, and we've talked,
and I said, it's Italian his

974
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:05,600
Twitter spaces.
His to his, to his ball over the

975
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,300
one thing that we didn't touch
on but this goes back to answer

976
00:54:08,300 --> 00:54:11,500
your question.
This is something that we

977
00:54:11,500 --> 00:54:15,300
haven't had in Blacksburg in a
while his leadership, right?

978
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:20,700
Like it's not something Andy,
bitter, David tyll, Mike Barber

979
00:54:21,500 --> 00:54:24,400
can really, you can't really put
that in the sporting news

980
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,300
magazine.
That's not going to be a ACC

981
00:54:26,300 --> 00:54:28,600
media day.
That's that's that's a

982
00:54:28,607 --> 00:54:30,700
measurable thing.
You have to see and feel

983
00:54:31,300 --> 00:54:36,100
Leadership is what Jim drunken
Miller was what JC price was

984
00:54:36,100 --> 00:54:38,800
when he became the interim, you
saw that, right?

985
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:42,900
You saw how they responded like
I have said this, I've gone on

986
00:54:42,900 --> 00:54:47,500
record, I felt like the
leadership when those sudden

987
00:54:47,500 --> 00:54:49,900
changes in adversity, hit was
lacking.

988
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,600
It wasn't so much that guys were
selfish and they were going to

989
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,900
transfer in the portal and they
were all about themselves.

990
00:54:55,900 --> 00:55:00,500
But Take yourself back to when
we were winning, nine, ten,

991
00:55:00,500 --> 00:55:04,800
eleven games or even that first,
couple of years went to a came

992
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:08,700
in and he went 10 wins, nine
wins and a twins.

993
00:55:08,700 --> 00:55:11,000
You had Ricky Walker.
You had Tim settle.

994
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:12,800
You had to Edmonds.
Brothers.

995
00:55:13,300 --> 00:55:18,700
You had a lot of leaders.
Even Josh Jackson, you can

996
00:55:18,700 --> 00:55:21,400
criticize him.
He was a solid leader when he

997
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,600
took over, you know, even Gerard
Evans.

998
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:26,000
Bucky Hodges now.
No buck.

999
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:29,200
He's not a verbal guy.
But, you know, Isaiah Ford was a

1000
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:33,500
leader.
I felt like after those last

1001
00:55:33,500 --> 00:55:38,600
guys left it became manufactured
leadership where it was a lot of

1002
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,900
hashtagging.
A lot of, you know, false

1003
00:55:41,900 --> 00:55:44,900
promises a lot of posters.
You know, it was like like

1004
00:55:44,900 --> 00:55:48,300
during the Puff Daddy are was a
lot of shiny shoots but it

1005
00:55:48,300 --> 00:55:51,900
won't, you know, like it wasn't
even real pretty wasn't any real

1006
00:55:51,900 --> 00:55:56,200
toughness and I felt like we
talked about that question guys.

1007
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:59,400
I feel like That comes down to
leadership and mental toughness,

1008
00:56:00,900 --> 00:56:04,100
you know, I don't like talking
about like like I laugh when

1009
00:56:04,100 --> 00:56:07,700
down because I'm the same way, I
don't like to say.

1010
00:56:07,700 --> 00:56:11,300
Back in my day we was this
because I think the athletes

1011
00:56:11,300 --> 00:56:14,500
play today are phenomenal.
I mean, I think the kids playing

1012
00:56:14,500 --> 00:56:19,400
now, just as talented, if not
more and I think that the kids

1013
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:23,600
now deserve a fair chance every
season, but I will say that.

1014
00:56:24,300 --> 00:56:27,000
The one thing that never changes
in the game of football when you

1015
00:56:27,100 --> 00:56:30,700
About winning programs and
winning cultures leadership when

1016
00:56:31,500 --> 00:56:35,700
coach prior can turn his back
and know that the player is,

1017
00:56:35,700 --> 00:56:37,800
when there's that Dead period,
when their coaches can't talk to

1018
00:56:37,808 --> 00:56:42,400
the players.
Like, like, for example, I'm not

1019
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:44,800
sure they would doing this, and
I know you got to be careful

1020
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,200
with the NCAA rules, but this
is, if the coaches aren't,

1021
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:50,900
there, is not a violation.
How many guys were getting the

1022
00:56:50,900 --> 00:56:55,500
receivers and dbe's together
after workouts and going over

1023
00:56:55,500 --> 00:57:00,100
seven on seven?
And Running routes, you know, my

1024
00:57:00,100 --> 00:57:03,100
chemo came on our show and
talked about how they would

1025
00:57:03,100 --> 00:57:05,400
work.
After practice D'Angelo, like

1026
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:09,500
how many guys would really like,
leading, like Jake Grove was a

1027
00:57:09,508 --> 00:57:12,200
leader, you know?
And Leadership is not like a

1028
00:57:12,207 --> 00:57:17,700
bunch of like, Speeches and
scriptures and you know it's

1029
00:57:17,700 --> 00:57:22,100
more soldiers holding your guys
accountable saying look man we

1030
00:57:22,100 --> 00:57:24,500
are going, we are going to
sacrifice, we can get this this

1031
00:57:24,500 --> 00:57:29,100
conference Championship.
So I mean, my answer to that

1032
00:57:29,100 --> 00:57:33,800
question is, is leadership.
Like I just think, you know, you

1033
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,100
look at the Great Tech teams,
even a teams that won eight

1034
00:57:36,100 --> 00:57:41,000
games, that had a good season,
they had leadership and I just

1035
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:42,900
think that's that's been missing
to man.

1036
00:57:44,100 --> 00:57:46,100
And I think you're going to,
what are you saying?

1037
00:57:46,100 --> 00:57:49,000
Is that, that rah-rah stuff is
only gonna get you so far right?

1038
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:53,200
It doesn't, it doesn't look man.
But like, like not to pick on

1039
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,500
Jamis when I like Jameis
Winston's because he's funny to

1040
00:57:55,500 --> 00:57:58,200
me, man.
But I joke, I joke about his

1041
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,600
speeches, man, because I
remember that one.

1042
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:02,200
When he was like, we're going
out here, you look at his

1043
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,600
fingers, we're going out here.
We gonna eat him like man,

1044
00:58:05,100 --> 00:58:10,800
that's not gonna get me height
and, and honestly like getting

1045
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:15,100
high is cool.
Whatever Gets you going before a

1046
00:58:15,100 --> 00:58:17,300
game before a big performance?
I'm more.

1047
00:58:17,300 --> 00:58:21,100
So low-key, quiet guy.
I get in my zone like the moment

1048
00:58:21,100 --> 00:58:24,400
I'm on the bus or the plane, I'm
already locked in, I'm locked

1049
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:29,300
in, I got my, you know, I got my
music on, I'm ready to go, I

1050
00:58:29,300 --> 00:58:33,900
hate pregame II, never like
pregame because after I get my

1051
00:58:33,900 --> 00:58:36,100
good sweat going on, I'm ready
to play.

1052
00:58:36,500 --> 00:58:40,900
But some guys need to head bun
and hit and I'm the okay,

1053
00:58:40,900 --> 00:58:43,300
whatever.
But that is only going to last,

1054
00:58:43,300 --> 00:58:46,400
because, That first Court, even
after the first two series, you

1055
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:48,800
got to execute and you got to
perform.

1056
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:53,100
And and that's why a lot of time
you're in the rise up here,

1057
00:58:53,100 --> 00:58:55,500
after that it's not, you're not,
you're not getting that from

1058
00:58:55,500 --> 00:58:57,500
everywhere.
You've you've got to have your

1059
00:58:57,500 --> 00:58:58,600
own motivation.
Yeah.

1060
00:58:58,900 --> 00:59:03,100
Bring to the table on top of
being ready for the moment.

1061
00:59:03,500 --> 00:59:06,000
It's really funny because I
think all of us here we're all

1062
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:09,000
fathers were all, we're family,
man.

1063
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:12,400
We support our families and a
lot of times it's up here.

1064
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,200
Why do you do what you do?
Do why do you go in and work the

1065
00:59:15,207 --> 00:59:17,400
long hours?
Why do you take that extra

1066
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:19,400
class?
Why do you do that?

1067
00:59:19,500 --> 00:59:21,400
That's up here.
That's up here.

1068
00:59:21,700 --> 00:59:24,200
Yeah, because you know anybody
can easily skate by but I'm

1069
00:59:24,207 --> 00:59:26,400
going to Pivot slightly because
I know tally.

1070
00:59:26,900 --> 00:59:30,600
Excuse me.
I know Dwight, you do not, you

1071
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:33,200
can't stay as long as we stayed
in the past, which has been

1072
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,200
long.
But what do you think this?

1073
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:40,000
You know, it's in one of our
listeners here put it up here to

1074
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:43,200
is kind of what I want to ask.
What are you seeing that?

1075
00:59:43,700 --> 00:59:47,500
Is why Brent prize starting to
establish the team identity?

1076
00:59:47,500 --> 00:59:48,700
What are the things you're
doing?

1077
00:59:48,700 --> 00:59:50,100
That makes you feel good to say,
yep.

1078
00:59:50,100 --> 00:59:53,600
Last year, we were three and
eight, but the tallies point to

1079
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:56,600
tallies points, beginning for
those games while 11 points to

1080
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:59,900
Brian's point, when they made
some philosophy shifts, things

1081
00:59:59,900 --> 01:00:03,400
started looking better.
What have you seen?

1082
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:06,300
And we know you have some privy
conversations and what have you

1083
01:00:06,300 --> 01:00:10,300
heard that may get us back to
the True Tech identity to get us

1084
01:00:10,300 --> 01:00:13,500
back on where we want to be?
Yeah.

1085
01:00:13,700 --> 01:00:19,800
You know, I think the one thing
and talking with pride and also

1086
01:00:21,700 --> 01:00:28,100
like just just in what I've seen
is he's recruiting, his stay.

1087
01:00:28,100 --> 01:00:32,500
He has a recruiting philosophy.
He also is not afraid to admit

1088
01:00:32,500 --> 01:00:35,400
his mistakes.
I hate when coaches lie.

1089
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:38,700
Even when I played, I like bro.
Like I hate when they get up

1090
01:00:38,700 --> 01:00:41,700
here like we didn't execute.
We got to look ourselves in the

1091
01:00:41,700 --> 01:00:43,500
mirror.
We got to go back and eat.

1092
01:00:43,700 --> 01:00:46,600
Vegetables and go to bed early
and pray like dog.

1093
01:00:46,900 --> 01:00:48,900
Stop man.
Like the one thing I rock with

1094
01:00:48,900 --> 01:00:51,900
pride about is he's honest.
Like he has the ODU game.

1095
01:00:51,900 --> 01:00:54,000
He talked about being
overwhelmed a little bit, not

1096
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,300
managing the clock but more
importantly man.

1097
01:00:56,300 --> 01:01:01,300
Like he is, he has a philosophy.
He's sticking to what he feels

1098
01:01:01,300 --> 01:01:04,600
is best for Tech.
And I think he also understands

1099
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:08,700
the importance of relationships
in the Commonwealth and like

1100
01:01:08,700 --> 01:01:12,300
those areas we touched on 30
minutes ago about Carolina in

1101
01:01:12,300 --> 01:01:18,000
DC, Maryland, And honestly prize
my guy, like he knows we follow

1102
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,300
each other on Twitter, I can
text him and call Pride.

1103
01:01:20,500 --> 01:01:24,700
So he sees my tweets but he's
not going to be intimidated by

1104
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:28,500
Dwight Vic who has 13,000
followers because he wants Todd

1105
01:01:28,500 --> 01:01:32,000
Washington, you know.
And that's not saying he doesn't

1106
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:34,700
love Todd and because that's
that's his guy to.

1107
01:01:35,100 --> 01:01:38,200
I just think you have to stick
to your convictions and he's

1108
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:43,000
doing that he also isn't.
I remember when I went to ask

1109
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:46,500
about what Dance, like Beamer
and he said, well hopefully we

1110
01:01:46,500 --> 01:01:49,700
got, you know, more games than
win, bigger games, where I can

1111
01:01:49,700 --> 01:01:51,700
dance, right?
I didn't know if that was a shot

1112
01:01:51,700 --> 01:01:53,900
at be more if he was just
actually talking about winning

1113
01:01:53,900 --> 01:01:57,600
more games, right?
And then they're year, we'd be

1114
01:01:57,600 --> 01:01:58,800
UVA.
When we thought we're going to

1115
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:02,800
lose the fumble game in overtime
and he said that before the

1116
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:07,100
game, he said, they'd better get
us now, right?

1117
01:02:07,100 --> 01:02:09,500
Because we're going to be better
or my favorite.

1118
01:02:09,700 --> 01:02:13,300
He told before Foster that now
that he was there, he wasn't

1119
01:02:13,300 --> 01:02:14,700
going to happen.
After we want to worry about

1120
01:02:14,700 --> 01:02:17,600
winning with defense.
I think those kind of statements

1121
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:20,900
sound good, but their emotional,
they're not rational, right?

1122
01:02:20,900 --> 01:02:24,700
Yeah, because prize not that.
Like, I'm not saying he's

1123
01:02:24,700 --> 01:02:28,600
calculating, he strategic, he's
honest he's sincere and he's

1124
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:32,300
telling you not what you want to
hear, but the truth when he saw

1125
01:02:32,300 --> 01:02:33,700
my, we got too many
scholarships.

1126
01:02:33,700 --> 01:02:37,800
We know we're going to have some
honest conversations and I think

1127
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:40,700
more importantly he came there
when I was there, like we both

1128
01:02:40,700 --> 01:02:42,000
came in there around the same
time.

1129
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:45,100
Together, him and is a Ta and me
as a player.

1130
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:49,800
So he saw how Tech was built and
he knows how you build a program

1131
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,000
and environment like Tech.
But I think the biggest thing

1132
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:57,000
he's doing well, that that makes
me happy and feel good about it

1133
01:02:57,008 --> 01:03:01,400
is he's really trying to push
and recruit the right players

1134
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:06,700
and recruit VA and the DMV.
And I think he's also building a

1135
01:03:06,700 --> 01:03:09,900
staff that can recruit and
that's sustainable.

1136
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:15,100
But again, I mean is much I can
sit Up and care to Brent's life.

1137
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:18,700
Brent Plies flag and talk about
how great he is.

1138
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:22,200
That's my dude but make no
mistake about it.

1139
01:03:22,207 --> 01:03:24,900
He's got to win.
He's had a Lynne.

1140
01:03:24,900 --> 01:03:27,500
I can I can talk about how I'm a
love them.

1141
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:32,000
If he go 8 + 4, 0, 10 and 0, or
1 + 9, that's my dude.

1142
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:35,000
You know, but they got a win,
it's a business.

1143
01:03:35,500 --> 01:03:39,800
And this is not this.
Think the bema are we the first

1144
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:43,100
six years?
You know, technical Tech has

1145
01:03:43,300 --> 01:03:49,000
that That stuff now is when
bhima took over, you had guy,

1146
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:50,500
wasn't there.
I was younger.

1147
01:03:50,500 --> 01:03:54,400
But when he came in, you had
guys on campus, wearing Miami

1148
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:58,200
Hurricane hoodies.
You had guys wearing Syracuse?

1149
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:02,600
It wasn't like, you know, now he
go, there is all Maroon Tech

1150
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:05,300
was, none effect, was not in
East Bay.

1151
01:04:05,300 --> 01:04:08,900
We weren't on video games yet.
People thought V T stood for

1152
01:04:08,900 --> 01:04:12,300
Vermont, right?
And then be mermaid, Beamer

1153
01:04:12,300 --> 01:04:15,100
ball, and household name.
Mmmmm Bud Foster.

1154
01:04:15,100 --> 01:04:18,100
The lunch pail became a symbol
in college football.

1155
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:22,900
So Virginia Tech fans have
tasted the forbidden fruit right

1156
01:04:22,900 --> 01:04:25,400
there.
Since then they have been there.

1157
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:29,200
So Pryor has to get us back to
that point of relevancy.

1158
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:31,700
Where right now, we are
irrelevant.

1159
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:35,000
We're living more of our history
not Traditions than actual

1160
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:36,900
outcome.
And that's, that's embarrassing,

1161
01:04:37,500 --> 01:04:39,800
that's embarrassing.
When when you find yourself,

1162
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:42,700
giving history lessons all the
time, like, oh remember we beat

1163
01:04:42,700 --> 01:04:45,100
ya'll.
We Won 10, straight games and

1164
01:04:45,100 --> 01:04:46,300
not.
Nobody want to hear that.

1165
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:50,700
Like, people love me and respect
my insight because I can talk

1166
01:04:50,700 --> 01:04:54,300
about the relevancy of my
career, or my insight, how it

1167
01:04:54,300 --> 01:04:58,600
relates today, but nobody wanted
me to talk for hours about 1999,

1168
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:05,200
you know, because it's 2023.
So I mean, I know I've talked to

1169
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:08,400
him, I've been in those offices.
I've seen those coaches working.

1170
01:05:10,300 --> 01:05:13,400
They understand that they have
to get more Talent.

1171
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:17,300
They have to build death but I
think the one thing is it's

1172
01:05:17,300 --> 01:05:22,300
calculated, its patients, it's
Brick by Brick, he said this.

1173
01:05:22,700 --> 01:05:26,600
And I believe it because you see
it, he really wants to build it

1174
01:05:26,700 --> 01:05:29,900
the right way.
Now, I know other guys have said

1175
01:05:29,900 --> 01:05:32,400
this.
I do think, you know, you got to

1176
01:05:32,408 --> 01:05:36,000
kind of play with the portal,
which, you know, they did.

1177
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:39,500
They got some guys in the portal
and the one thing that, you

1178
01:05:39,500 --> 01:05:42,200
know, people don't realize how I
talk to Pearson prioleau about

1179
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:46,000
this to say his coach.
He told me that he was like him

1180
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:49,100
and DJ told me because they they
had guys, they were going to get

1181
01:05:49,100 --> 01:05:52,400
out the porter you before, but
they several of them chose other

1182
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:57,100
schools.
So this this past offseason, we

1183
01:05:57,100 --> 01:06:01,300
got some guys in the portal.
So I think you get those guys

1184
01:06:01,300 --> 01:06:03,800
because those guys talk to
Prior, you can kind of see what

1185
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:07,100
he's building, you know,
sometimes it's just, you know,

1186
01:06:07,300 --> 01:06:09,400
you gotta it's like when you
dating a girl you gotta show

1187
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:11,000
her.
How much you love a versus?

1188
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:13,400
Just talk about.
Everybody can run game.

1189
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:17,000
You know I'm saying that I gotta
show, you know I'm saying?

1190
01:06:17,900 --> 01:06:20,900
Absolutely.
Yeah.

1191
01:06:20,900 --> 01:06:23,700
I mean you talked about building
the foundation and getting

1192
01:06:23,700 --> 01:06:26,900
Talent back in their building
some of the depth on the on the

1193
01:06:26,900 --> 01:06:29,000
roster.
So let's talk about recruiting

1194
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:31,300
the state.
Last year, we got 12 players

1195
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:36,400
that came in from the state.
Most we've had in a while but

1196
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:40,300
zero came in from the 757
looking at that area.

1197
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:43,200
Do you think that is due to the
kind of the degree with which

1198
01:06:43,500 --> 01:06:46,500
relationships deteriorate it
under the previous regime?

1199
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:49,400
Or is it more to do about the
unique nature of recruiting the

1200
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:52,200
75 years?
The man, you know, I'm from down

1201
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:57,200
there down v a lot of Rio, would
it so many of us, man, you know,

1202
01:06:57,200 --> 01:07:00,000
that was the best of the best
kept secret when I was growing

1203
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:04,400
up because you didn't have
social media, you know, and then

1204
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:07,700
you wake up one day and place to
go Birds Allen Iverson.

1205
01:07:07,700 --> 01:07:12,500
Ronald Curry, Michael Vick
Aaron, Brooks Sweet Pea

1206
01:07:12,500 --> 01:07:14,000
Whitaker.
I mean all of a sudden you're

1207
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:16,300
like God blessed.
Where's this place at this?

1208
01:07:16,300 --> 01:07:19,900
The largest metropolitan area in
the country without a pro sports

1209
01:07:19,900 --> 01:07:21,700
team?
Mmmmm and all of a sudden it's

1210
01:07:21,700 --> 01:07:26,900
like you got Missy and for real
and all of them from down there

1211
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:30,200
and they know it's just it just
becomes a hotbed just starts

1212
01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:32,700
trending.
I mean, Teddy Riley, it's just

1213
01:07:32,700 --> 01:07:35,400
crazy, right?
How it blew up in the 90s right

1214
01:07:35,500 --> 01:07:39,100
and Beamer with once again,
shout out to my man is beams and

1215
01:07:39,100 --> 01:07:42,600
Coach cabin, co-star spring.
He had the right recipe to get

1216
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:45,400
down there.
You know, he knew to put all his

1217
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:48,200
eggs in a Mike Vick basket
versus going all in on Ronald

1218
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:51,900
Curry, who everybody wanted?
He To only recruit one

1219
01:07:51,900 --> 01:07:56,200
quarterback which is tie rod who
was a top nationally ranked

1220
01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:57,900
quarterback or dual threat
quarterback.

1221
01:07:58,100 --> 01:08:02,400
He knew that Brian Randall would
fit his system and that he was a

1222
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:05,700
very talented player but nobody
was going to really be after him

1223
01:08:05,700 --> 01:08:08,800
and Williamsburg versus if he
was playing in Virginia Beach or

1224
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:12,800
Norfolk, he knew him and started
springing Cab new to get Kam

1225
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:17,600
Chancellor who didn't have any
offers but he was 65 and

1226
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:21,399
absolute Beast athlete.
So when you Create a Kam

1227
01:08:21,399 --> 01:08:25,100
Chancellor and you create all
those guys, and I can't even

1228
01:08:25,100 --> 01:08:27,600
name them all.
Bucky Hodges all the sudden,

1229
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:33,100
Ohio, State, Penn, State, Nick
Saban, Clemson, it coming in and

1230
01:08:33,399 --> 01:08:37,100
the 757 is always going to be a
unique area because it's very

1231
01:08:37,100 --> 01:08:40,300
Urban but it's also Southern so
Norfolk.

1232
01:08:40,300 --> 01:08:45,100
Newport News, Hampton.
Virginia Beach is not like up

1233
01:08:45,100 --> 01:08:47,500
here where I live in Northern
Virginia we have the Metro with

1234
01:08:47,500 --> 01:08:51,399
right you know as traffic
taught, you know. 495.

1235
01:08:51,500 --> 01:08:55,100
It's a mix of Southeastern
Virginia.

1236
01:08:55,100 --> 01:08:59,300
So we're still Southern and it
feels like everybody's related.

1237
01:08:59,300 --> 01:09:03,899
And if you piss 1707 coach off,
none of them going to rock with

1238
01:09:03,899 --> 01:09:07,100
you.
So, if you yeah, I'll take you

1239
01:09:07,100 --> 01:09:08,700
guys back because I was in
middle of this.

1240
01:09:09,300 --> 01:09:11,899
Some of this started when we
were recruiting, some guys,

1241
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:15,399
smoke mines, Illinois them, and
they were playing for the 7017

1242
01:09:15,399 --> 01:09:20,100
called the thoroughbreds and we
sent Kurt Newsome down there.

1243
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:22,600
R and start spring, had that
area.

1244
01:09:23,100 --> 01:09:26,899
What starts whirring has a
Immaculate reputation down

1245
01:09:26,899 --> 01:09:31,100
there, but they felt some kind
of way with, you know, some of

1246
01:09:31,108 --> 01:09:35,600
the other coaches and there was
a disconnect and Mike, London

1247
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:39,399
took advantage of it, he played
the race card, he was smart,

1248
01:09:39,399 --> 01:09:42,000
he's a great coach.
I mean, as far as recruiting

1249
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:47,899
wise and relationships and he
got Andrew Brown, smoke mizzell

1250
01:09:48,300 --> 01:09:51,300
and Quin Blanding.
We got Andrew Brown.

1251
01:09:51,300 --> 01:09:53,100
He was a national Gatorade
player of the year.

1252
01:09:53,100 --> 01:09:56,900
So he was able to get those guys
that commit and that's when you

1253
01:09:56,900 --> 01:10:00,400
saw the type the tables turn
because they were going to UVA

1254
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:02,800
or they were going on and state.
And then a lot of those coaches

1255
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:06,900
down there were like, don't send
your kids to Tech and then we

1256
01:10:06,907 --> 01:10:10,500
didn't help ourselves because it
was some kids that we were

1257
01:10:10,508 --> 01:10:12,700
supposed off of, but never
pulled the trigger.

1258
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:17,100
And then once you do that, man
and then guys start going out of

1259
01:10:17,100 --> 01:10:19,900
state or start going to North
Carolina and stuff like that.

1260
01:10:20,500 --> 01:10:24,100
It hurts you, and then in and,
you know, fast forward, when

1261
01:10:24,100 --> 01:10:28,100
Drake block got to UNC, you
could talk about him, all you

1262
01:10:28,100 --> 01:10:30,500
want.
He was a thorn.

1263
01:10:31,100 --> 01:10:34,700
Like the episode went went on,
Tommy Davidson was on there.

1264
01:10:34,700 --> 01:10:40,600
With Marty said, you have been a
thorn in my ass, and thank God.

1265
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:44,000
He is went to Detroit to coach.
Yes, it bother him.

1266
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:47,200
So here's a, here's a deal,
Brian.

1267
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:51,900
I mean, The 757 will always have
that reputation.

1268
01:10:52,100 --> 01:10:56,100
Is everybody from down there?
Great know, some of it they're

1269
01:10:56,100 --> 01:10:59,700
living off of what DeAngelo Hall
and other guys have done.

1270
01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:04,600
Then there's some guys down
there that we missed on that we

1271
01:11:04,608 --> 01:11:07,000
should have offered and recruit
like that kid from Bethel, High

1272
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:09,900
School that went to Notre Dame
that was an All-American that's

1273
01:11:09,900 --> 01:11:13,500
now in the NFL he you know he
went to Bethel, Bethel High

1274
01:11:13,500 --> 01:11:18,000
School gave us Chris Ellis and
James Gail, okay?

1275
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:23,000
So that that continue you see
right there what that's done for

1276
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:27,200
so we got and also Ricky Walker.
So you got three great defensive

1277
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:29,900
lineman that came in in Jimmy
Williams because he played at

1278
01:11:29,900 --> 01:11:32,600
Hampton High in Bethel.
You got to get those guys

1279
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:36,700
Phoebus has a monster that's
going to pit named Jordan bass.

1280
01:11:37,300 --> 01:11:40,700
All things either.
He's the guy that normally would

1281
01:11:40,700 --> 01:11:44,400
going to Tech and the word on
the street is I know this from

1282
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:47,100
my sources.
We almost flipped them but we

1283
01:11:47,100 --> 01:11:49,400
didn't finish.
Came close to flipping.

1284
01:11:49,900 --> 01:11:54,900
We didn't finish, but you got to
get the join basses, but I

1285
01:11:54,900 --> 01:11:56,900
think, you know, it's about
relationships.

1286
01:11:56,900 --> 01:11:59,700
You got to keep going down there
showing your face.

1287
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:03,500
I don't think I get corny and do
the Electric Slide like Nick

1288
01:12:03,500 --> 01:12:08,700
Saban at the fish fry but just
saying, you know, saying at the

1289
01:12:08,700 --> 01:12:13,100
same time you gotta you gotta
show love and you get you that

1290
01:12:13,100 --> 01:12:18,300
is a that is an area where It's
just so unique area because some

1291
01:12:18,300 --> 01:12:21,100
parts are really Urban some
parts of suburban.

1292
01:12:21,100 --> 01:12:24,000
I mean, Southern some parts are
very dangerous.

1293
01:12:24,300 --> 01:12:28,000
I have ronyell Whitaker on, he
grew up in Youngs Park, one of

1294
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:31,400
the roughest projects and in
southeast Virginia and Norfolk,

1295
01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:33,200
right?
And, oh my show.

1296
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:38,200
He said start spring came out
today Young's part and that's,

1297
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:40,000
you know stars for is a white
man.

1298
01:12:40,500 --> 01:12:43,800
He was out there and he came in
Rafael and sat with his

1299
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:45,800
grandmother.
Hey fool.

1300
01:12:46,300 --> 01:12:49,600
He said Notre Dame other schools
weren't coming to Youngs Park,

1301
01:12:50,100 --> 01:12:51,700
right?
It's stuck.

1302
01:12:51,700 --> 01:12:54,100
A had to do.
Yeah, it's stuff like that.

1303
01:12:54,100 --> 01:12:58,100
You got to go into those those
those places coach Cavanaugh me.

1304
01:12:58,300 --> 01:13:02,300
Michael was on our show one time
not one time the show I do with

1305
01:13:02,300 --> 01:13:07,500
my, he joked about how he new
Beemer and cabin on them wanted

1306
01:13:07,500 --> 01:13:11,800
him because they was in really
Circle where he from and he was

1307
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:14,000
out there night.
He was like, yo, man, I thought

1308
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:16,000
it was gonna mess around and get
robbed and shot.

1309
01:13:16,300 --> 01:13:21,400
You know, I'm saying.
So, I mean, you just gotta

1310
01:13:21,900 --> 01:13:24,300
that's a long answer, but the
point is, man, you just got to

1311
01:13:24,300 --> 01:13:27,200
keep plugging away.
I don't think, I don't think our

1312
01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:32,300
fan base really, realizes how
and I'm trying to move on,

1313
01:13:32,300 --> 01:13:33,900
because I don't have no beef
with that man.

1314
01:13:33,900 --> 01:13:39,100
But went, a really, really ruin
those relationships, man.

1315
01:13:39,100 --> 01:13:43,800
They, I'm not even talking about
the Oscar Smith's of the what

1316
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:47,300
I'm talking about.
The, the schools that we had

1317
01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:51,200
pipelines with, right?
Yeah, when you when you start a

1318
01:13:51,208 --> 01:13:56,100
movement from Texas hashtag to
VA and you got coaches who are

1319
01:13:56,100 --> 01:14:00,500
like we haven't seen Tech down
here and months or in two years

1320
01:14:01,100 --> 01:14:05,200
that is, you can't do it.
So you got to keep playing it.

1321
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:08,700
You got to keep plugging away.
Yeah, and that's something

1322
01:14:08,700 --> 01:14:10,300
you're here in Telly.
I know you got a question.

1323
01:14:10,300 --> 01:14:11,800
I don't make a real good point
in the taste.

1324
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:14,600
This was on us last week and he
mentioned that he's like there

1325
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:17,300
would be money.
When High School coaches would

1326
01:14:17,300 --> 01:14:20,900
not seek a, he's like this
regime every few weeks.

1327
01:14:20,900 --> 01:14:23,900
They rolling in every few weeks
they talk and they're texting

1328
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:26,900
Batali.
You got a question to mr.

1329
01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:31,400
Curtis Curtis and Curtis not
only are they all done every two

1330
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:32,600
weeks.
This one thing they're doing,

1331
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:36,600
this is smart.
They're at the youth games, the

1332
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:39,700
Cold War toys.
Like they're, they're see again,

1333
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:45,100
the 757 the 757 is like it's
like we're tally.

1334
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:49,000
He lives like you got to you got
to know the streets, you got to

1335
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:52,000
know the youth leagues.
You got to talk to those people

1336
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:54,700
and know like yo there's an
eighth-grade over here on

1337
01:14:54,700 --> 01:14:58,000
Aberdeen robro.
Go talk to his aunt man his dad

1338
01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:00,900
you know he doing six months but
his aunt.

1339
01:15:00,900 --> 01:15:02,800
She you know if you tell her you
know you got to come.

1340
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:04,400
You gotta you gotta work the
streets.

1341
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:06,000
I'm not trying to compare it to
the drug game.

1342
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:08,200
I'm just saying you got to
hustle, you know, you can.

1343
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:11,500
And we've been we've been
talking to those guys that the

1344
01:15:11,500 --> 01:15:15,100
trainer's, the 707 coaches, that
we weren't doing that.

1345
01:15:15,300 --> 01:15:19,800
So just want to add that man.
No, that's good because no me

1346
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:23,000
into white, we talk a lot.
We've talked in a lot of spaces

1347
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:25,800
just about, you know, recruiting
recruiting stuff.

1348
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:28,400
You know.
I don't profess to be a

1349
01:15:28,407 --> 01:15:31,600
recruiter but I understand how
recruiting works because I've

1350
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:33,900
seen it a lot.
I've studied it a lot.

1351
01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:38,900
People talk about like the
school Hoover High School here

1352
01:15:38,900 --> 01:15:42,400
in Alabama, Hoover was a
Powerhouse for a long time and

1353
01:15:42,407 --> 01:15:45,900
it was cheating but they were a
Powerhouse for a long time

1354
01:15:45,900 --> 01:15:51,400
because of how they ran their
program, their six and seven

1355
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:54,800
year old football teams got
visited from the high school

1356
01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:59,600
Who's the one that was cheating
but he was the one he would go

1357
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:01,700
and tell those coaches.
He knew those coaches that he

1358
01:16:01,700 --> 01:16:02,500
would do.
I hate?

1359
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:04,800
This is the, this is what they
need to be running.

1360
01:16:05,300 --> 01:16:09,600
God can simplified but those
five and six-year-olds need to

1361
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:11,100
be running this.
Because if they're going to be

1362
01:16:11,100 --> 01:16:14,500
in Hoover, if they're going to
be in Hoover city, they're going

1363
01:16:14,500 --> 01:16:18,600
to run this program.
So cultures were already knowing

1364
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:22,200
what to do and coming in as a
recruiter, you would be talking

1365
01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:25,800
to Youth League, coaches.
You will be talking to me.

1366
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:29,800
A, you would be talking to where
they ate it.

1367
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:32,000
Oh, you just pop up at you, you
eat here?

1368
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:35,400
You eat at this Waffle House and
you'll see a coach pop up at

1369
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:39,200
that Waffle House.
Where this kid's mom is eaten.

1370
01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:42,500
But anyway, I just wanted to
throw that in next thing we were

1371
01:16:42,500 --> 01:16:44,800
going to go away because like I
said, me and Dwight, we talked a

1372
01:16:44,808 --> 01:16:49,300
lot through the spaces and have
talked a lot just in the DM's

1373
01:16:49,300 --> 01:16:51,800
all that good stuff over the
phone.

1374
01:16:52,700 --> 01:16:58,900
The white has a lot of insight
and on Players and in under the

1375
01:16:58,900 --> 01:17:01,600
radar players that we should
Beyond I did.

1376
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:05,100
He's like I know last year, I
think correct me if I'm wrong.

1377
01:17:05,100 --> 01:17:08,000
You talked about the Amari
Campbell kid a lot.

1378
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:09,000
Right?
Was that his name?

1379
01:17:09,100 --> 01:17:11,300
Yes.
And he had he ended up going.

1380
01:17:11,300 --> 01:17:13,000
You can see, right.
Yeah man.

1381
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:18,100
I meant background because of
him because he told them about

1382
01:17:18,100 --> 01:17:23,500
me because I was young and I'm
like his mentor and he's got a

1383
01:17:23,508 --> 01:17:26,100
younger brother played in my a,
you organize Alvin a you His

1384
01:17:26,100 --> 01:17:29,500
days, we got 16s.
And I was at Uni, read High

1385
01:17:29,500 --> 01:17:33,700
School a few months ago and I
walked up there Mack Brown and

1386
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:36,100
their deepest accordingly.
We talked for almost 40 minutes

1387
01:17:36,100 --> 01:17:39,200
during the during the fire drill
and Mack Brown.

1388
01:17:39,500 --> 01:17:42,900
I'll be honest with y'all, he
was tripping because he knew he

1389
01:17:42,900 --> 01:17:44,600
knows I'm going to poke through
and through.

1390
01:17:45,100 --> 01:17:48,000
But I'm all about the kids, but
he was tripping on like yo like

1391
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:51,800
you really okay with him going
to you and see it.

1392
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:56,000
I'm like if that's his school
but I just say, Tom, I'll Say

1393
01:17:56,000 --> 01:18:00,000
this I mean more is a tar heel
now but he, he was waiting for

1394
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:03,800
that Tech awful.
But again, you know, sighs

1395
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:06,900
measurables, I don't know what
tech wanted but I mean I, you

1396
01:18:06,907 --> 01:18:10,500
know, I'm there a lot of kids I
see up here or even in the state

1397
01:18:10,500 --> 01:18:13,300
I'm like, hey this kid is
special, you know, I y'all see

1398
01:18:13,300 --> 01:18:15,500
me on Twitter?
No, stay there.

1399
01:18:16,500 --> 01:18:20,600
That's what we that's what we
well, we at right now for 2024

1400
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:22,600
throwing fly out there for us,
man.

1401
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:25,800
Who listen kids, did you see?
And detect need to be on Whose

1402
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:30,400
Jack, it is a kid.
Okay, there's two right now.

1403
01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:32,000
First of all, let me just circle
back.

1404
01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:35,100
This is 2023.
I'm telling y'all right now.

1405
01:18:35,100 --> 01:18:38,300
I've been talking about them,
even before Tech offer and

1406
01:18:38,300 --> 01:18:39,900
Caleb.
Listen guys.

1407
01:18:40,500 --> 01:18:42,700
Yes you did.
He's in this program.

1408
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:45,500
Hey, lil Woods.
I'm telling y'all, I'm not

1409
01:18:45,500 --> 01:18:47,200
making any profit again.
I got a straight.

1410
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:49,500
I got a strong track record.
As I said, I told you about

1411
01:18:49,500 --> 01:18:52,600
Stroman this time whatever.
But there's a couple of kids.

1412
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:55,700
I love this.
There's a kid at dinner.

1413
01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:58,800
With your high school right now.
He threw for two thousand and

1414
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:01,000
ran for tooth.
I cannot remember his name right

1415
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:04,000
now.
He is a elite athlete.

1416
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:06,000
He's at dinner with it.
They play in the state

1417
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:08,100
championship.
He's special.

1418
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:11,000
I'm gonna get his name.
I'm starting the bottom because

1419
01:19:11,500 --> 01:19:14,300
I'm letting 2023 as Cloud, but
you're gonna see some names.

1420
01:19:14,300 --> 01:19:17,200
Just, for y'all viewers out
there and you, even you three,

1421
01:19:17,500 --> 01:19:19,800
you know, we follow each other.
Check me because I'm gonna start

1422
01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:22,900
sending some names out.
There's another kid, I can tell

1423
01:19:22,900 --> 01:19:27,800
you right now, he's also a
quarterback, but Um, the kid at

1424
01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:30,100
Highland Springs, the
quarterback.

1425
01:19:30,100 --> 01:19:32,800
He just wouldn't their fifth
straight Championship but I

1426
01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:34,600
think it was his first or
second.

1427
01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:38,900
I'm Neymar.
Yeah, I'm the Christian Martin.

1428
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:44,300
Yeah, he plays basketball too.
He has Poise.

1429
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:46,900
He I mean, he's a different kind
of kid.

1430
01:19:46,900 --> 01:19:50,200
He goes to bed early.
He works hard.

1431
01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:55,200
He's a tech, kind of kid.
I just think I let you go ahead.

1432
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:56,300
Go ahead.
I want to get you.

1433
01:19:56,308 --> 01:20:00,900
The name Harry Dalton the third
class of 2025.

1434
01:20:00,900 --> 01:20:03,200
He already has a tech offer from
Dinwiddie.

1435
01:20:03,300 --> 01:20:04,500
Okay, so good.
Okay.

1436
01:20:04,500 --> 01:20:06,200
No.
He get it to you because if not,

1437
01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:08,400
I would have our two forgot it.
No, no.

1438
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:11,400
Thank you Curtis.
So I'm just don't know, I'm

1439
01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:15,100
telling y'all like, tech fans
watching this or when you

1440
01:20:15,100 --> 01:20:16,900
re-watch the, you re are this or
whatever.

1441
01:20:17,300 --> 01:20:23,700
Check him out, bro.
Like he is special like, it's,

1442
01:20:23,900 --> 01:20:26,600
it's funny too because that's
why I told you I'm not that old

1443
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:31,500
G my day, you know, no man.
It, I see some kids now but like

1444
01:20:31,500 --> 01:20:34,900
God blessed, man that kid, you
know, a special so that then

1445
01:20:34,900 --> 01:20:39,700
when the kid is good, man.
Um, you know, but those are two

1446
01:20:39,700 --> 01:20:41,800
kids that come to mind.
But I will say, I have other

1447
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:44,700
kids too, because what tends to
happen between now and the

1448
01:20:44,708 --> 01:20:47,400
spring?
I'll start looking at tape or

1449
01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:50,200
going to some camps or the
summer time?

1450
01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:53,400
I'll, you know, I got followers,
man.

1451
01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:56,400
I don't know what they think, if
they think I'm a A scout or I'm

1452
01:20:56,400 --> 01:21:00,600
just so passionate but I get
people that kiss and Prospects.

1453
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:03,900
That send me their family, my
DMs, I'm like, hey man, I don't

1454
01:21:03,900 --> 01:21:08,500
I don't, I mean, your film looks
great, but I don't I'm not that

1455
01:21:08,500 --> 01:21:10,500
guy.
I'm not, I don't work for 24/7

1456
01:21:10,500 --> 01:21:15,200
anymore, I don't work for Rivals
anymore but I will, I will

1457
01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:18,900
retweet and show highlights of
kids that catch my eye.

1458
01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:22,400
My wife has been trying to give
me the coach college football

1459
01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:25,600
for years but I'm not doing it.
I love Victory life but I would

1460
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:28,300
tell you You, I have a good eye
for seeing players.

1461
01:21:28,300 --> 01:21:33,000
I I can see a guy with in five,
any girl female athletes but for

1462
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:36,400
the football, I can see I'm
like, yo, I can just first time

1463
01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:38,900
I saw Greg Stroman, I was like
that kid special.

1464
01:21:39,500 --> 01:21:43,400
Yeah, so it would tell me every
time I come hit me with

1465
01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:45,900
somebody, it's done, it's done.
Turned out good.

1466
01:21:45,900 --> 01:21:48,900
So I had to bring that kid up.
I went back where I kind of

1467
01:21:48,907 --> 01:21:51,800
remember this name, but I went
back to make sure I had his name

1468
01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:54,200
right on the kid who went to
UNC.

1469
01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:59,800
So you heard it.
Here first, big Vic's a tech.

1470
01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:03,400
We got to get on Kmart and Harry
Dalton the third down and then

1471
01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:07,100
with yeah listen look at you see
the comet up here by Robert.

1472
01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:10,200
Listen, the kid and dimwitty is
the truth, bro.

1473
01:22:10,200 --> 01:22:13,900
He and he looks like when those
quarterbacks in the orange and

1474
01:22:13,900 --> 01:22:16,000
maroon he would like man you
know, run you know?

1475
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:20,200
Because look man, look I did the
2013, spring game broadcast.

1476
01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:24,400
I was the, what's the term God.
I hate this word color

1477
01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:27,000
commonality.
That word because it's too close

1478
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:32,600
to colored.
I hate that word.

1479
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:35,400
I just always say I was the
analyst I was a commentator.

1480
01:22:35,400 --> 01:22:37,400
Yeah.
So I remember I was doing this,

1481
01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:38,800
you're breaking it down, I was
there.

1482
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:43,600
I was a two thousand thousand on
ESPN3 and I said bring a Motley

1483
01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:45,500
was in.
I was like man you know I like

1484
01:22:45,500 --> 01:22:49,600
this kid and I said Tech
historically has always done

1485
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:52,000
very well with dual threat
quarterback sand.

1486
01:22:52,500 --> 01:22:55,600
The last got the last guy to
really prove that was Dorado.

1487
01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:59,600
Evans.
I just think I just think like

1488
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:03,500
when you look at certain
programs that's the, that's the

1489
01:23:03,500 --> 01:23:05,500
beauty of high school and
college sports, right?

1490
01:23:05,700 --> 01:23:09,700
No matter what like they always
have, like Duke always has

1491
01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:15,200
someone knowing player that you
hate, or, you know, how to beat

1492
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:18,800
you there to be, who you are?
Yeah, Alabama, always has some

1493
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:23,500
amazing running back or whatever
or Tech always has some great

1494
01:23:23,500 --> 01:23:25,600
dbe's or, you know, two or
three.

1495
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:28,600
At quarterbacks, we've always
had my you go back.

1496
01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:30,900
Respectfully.
I'm not trying to make it sound

1497
01:23:30,900 --> 01:23:34,400
to be trendsetters but like
Beamer and them really embraced

1498
01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:37,600
dual-threat quarterback with
Morrie should say, so like, yes.

1499
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:40,600
And I just think that kid at
Dinwiddie embodies that like,

1500
01:23:40,900 --> 01:23:43,900
I'm not knocking the
quarterbacks like, Grandma

1501
01:23:43,900 --> 01:23:46,800
Esther or Ryan Willis.
I'm not trying to like we get a

1502
01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:51,100
pocket passer is what it is but
I feel like like tally just say

1503
01:23:51,100 --> 01:23:56,200
I feel like you all who you are.
Like I feel like Pride gets that

1504
01:23:56,200 --> 01:23:58,600
when he's trying to get this
defense right and get that

1505
01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:02,700
toughness.
I just think, man, like the kid

1506
01:24:02,700 --> 01:24:06,400
at Dinwiddie, I'm a huge fan
because when I saw him play, you

1507
01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:08,900
know, how you go to you, you
watch a game even if it's on the

1508
01:24:08,900 --> 01:24:11,500
nfhs app or you go to a game
when you see something on

1509
01:24:11,500 --> 01:24:13,800
Twitter you like hold on hold on
all play that back.

1510
01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:20,300
Yeah yeah yeah yeah.
To see that again.

1511
01:24:21,100 --> 01:24:23,300
Let's let's talk about this
because we had we have until

1512
01:24:23,300 --> 01:24:24,400
last week.
He told us.

1513
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:27,000
Is he kind of feels like the
staff is going to attack the

1514
01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:31,300
state of North Carolina a lot
harder to this this cycle we

1515
01:24:31,300 --> 01:24:35,800
also know Elijah Brooks History
with the Washington Catholic

1516
01:24:35,900 --> 01:24:39,700
Athletic Conference up there.
How important is it for this

1517
01:24:39,700 --> 01:24:42,400
staff to have good relationships
with a couple of those hotbed

1518
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:44,700
areas kind of that are just
outside the state.

1519
01:24:45,700 --> 01:24:49,200
I've always thought Carolina,
you know, even though it that

1520
01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:54,100
stay is known for basketball
because it all the schools I

1521
01:24:54,100 --> 01:24:57,800
think I The day, there's always
been Talent down there and we've

1522
01:24:57,800 --> 01:25:01,900
really locked it in even when
Mack Brown first got the

1523
01:25:01,900 --> 01:25:03,200
Carolina.
You know what, the guys we

1524
01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:06,900
talked about earlier with Trey,
Turner hinden hooker and all of

1525
01:25:06,907 --> 01:25:10,900
that.
But I will tell you, the WCA see

1526
01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:16,300
is probably in my humble opinion
more important because that

1527
01:25:16,300 --> 01:25:21,000
conference in football and
basketball is just like crazy

1528
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:26,000
loaded with talent and, um, You
got to have somebody to kind of

1529
01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:29,000
get in there and rub elbows and
get those kids that come.

1530
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:33,200
Because if you look at it like,
you know, Paul Paul 26 and

1531
01:25:34,300 --> 01:25:37,400
DeMatha st.
John's and all those schools up

1532
01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:41,200
there up here where I'm at, they
got they got Ballers and they

1533
01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:43,900
got athlete's.
And I just think, you know, we

1534
01:25:43,900 --> 01:25:46,400
got it, we got it, we got to
keep attacking man and we got it

1535
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:49,400
and it's not even about the
whole and IL thing it's really

1536
01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:51,400
about just building on the
culture.

1537
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:55,500
You establish and getting guys
like like Bread right now, need

1538
01:25:55,500 --> 01:25:58,400
to keep improving and I think
your brand improves when you

1539
01:25:58,400 --> 01:26:02,900
have players where kids and fans
across the state and crossed it,

1540
01:26:03,300 --> 01:26:06,200
the country can identify with
like when you watch the

1541
01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:11,000
documentary on Virginia Tech and
Michael Vick you saw, those late

1542
01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:15,100
90s rappers like Noriega and
Wu-Tang and all of them talking

1543
01:26:15,100 --> 01:26:19,100
about they were tech fans
because Michael Vick had him on

1544
01:26:19,100 --> 01:26:22,000
the map and everybody was
talking about Mike and but it

1545
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:24,400
wasn't wasn't about Mike.
It was about Cory.

1546
01:26:24,500 --> 01:26:29,000
We mourn their attitude and how
like the Beamer document arrives

1547
01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:32,500
part of with Brandon Flowers,
talking about, when you saw Tech

1548
01:26:32,500 --> 01:26:37,600
play, you saw like trash talking
added to the dump.

1549
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:42,200
EAC has players like that.
Like they had kids that, you

1550
01:26:42,200 --> 01:26:44,900
know, don't get it twisted
because it's a Catholic private

1551
01:26:44,900 --> 01:26:48,000
school district.
Those kids are going there

1552
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:53,000
because they're coming from
Southeast DC and PG County to

1553
01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:54,400
get out the hood.
I'm not sure.

1554
01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:57,200
They could like Dion said.
I'm not trying to tell you that

1555
01:26:57,200 --> 01:26:58,700
you got to get kids from the
hood.

1556
01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:01,800
I'm just saying like don't let
me just be honest with y'all

1557
01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:05,500
cause I keep it real.
You gotta get some goons that

1558
01:27:05,500 --> 01:27:08,000
also want to get Street.
You gotta we gotta we gotta get

1559
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:09,900
look man.
Let me take y'all back down

1560
01:27:09,900 --> 01:27:12,800
memory lane man.
People don't remember this.

1561
01:27:12,900 --> 01:27:17,000
But the ACC did not want us in
the conference because with

1562
01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:20,200
giatec was known to be very
outspoken.

1563
01:27:20,200 --> 01:27:23,600
Come in, take over your Stadium,
we were very aggressive.

1564
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:27,200
You had You had ronyell
Whitaker, and Jimmy Williams,

1565
01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:30,200
and all those guys.
We were known to talking about a

1566
01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:32,500
trip.
We were, we were gonna shush, we

1567
01:27:32,500 --> 01:27:37,900
were aggressive and in our first
two years in the ACC we went 16

1568
01:27:37,900 --> 01:27:40,800
and one and only lost one road
game.

1569
01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:43,800
We went into Maryland we took
out winning the Carolina which

1570
01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:45,800
took over.
We've always taken over and

1571
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:49,000
we've gone to UVA.
We went into every place and we

1572
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:54,400
took over and that start
recruiting you know when you

1573
01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:58,000
Guys like Antonio Freeman from
Baltimore City.

1574
01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:02,800
Josh Morgan from Southeast d.c.
Jason world's from New Jersey,

1575
01:28:02,900 --> 01:28:05,900
right?
You get those guys that are

1576
01:28:05,900 --> 01:28:08,600
aggressive.
Being recorded intelligent

1577
01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:11,800
recklessness right?
Yeah, I remember I used to be

1578
01:28:11,808 --> 01:28:13,800
like, yo, beings is only one
brother.

1579
01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:17,000
Like I was a young, and I was a
redshirt, I'm like, man.

1580
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:19,400
What the hell is intelligent
recklessness?

1581
01:28:19,400 --> 01:28:23,200
And then I saw JC price, Cornell
Brown shots of my guys from

1582
01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:26,000
Lynchburg because even that's
another Other place like Andre

1583
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:28,700
Kendrick call Bradley Cornell
Brown.

1584
01:28:28,700 --> 01:28:33,300
Those guys from the LBC AKA
Lynchburg they were dogs.

1585
01:28:33,300 --> 01:28:36,400
Like you got to get guys like
that like Cornell Brown y'all

1586
01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:41,200
see him now his nickname at Tech
was monster that was his

1587
01:28:41,200 --> 01:28:43,700
nickname monster.
He didn't comb his hair.

1588
01:28:44,100 --> 01:28:48,000
He know, he just had just was
out man and he he was an animal

1589
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:49,900
man.
And hey Coleman.

1590
01:28:49,900 --> 01:28:52,400
You got those guys, some 80 for
boys, I can keep going on.

1591
01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:54,400
I'm not going, blow your show,
it with all these.

1592
01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:56,000
Dropped.
I'm just saying that I would

1593
01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:59,500
love that.
I get nostalgic because I know

1594
01:28:59,500 --> 01:29:01,900
what tech is this is I'm not
trying to have a mic drop

1595
01:29:01,900 --> 01:29:03,900
moment.
I know what Virginia Tech is

1596
01:29:03,900 --> 01:29:07,300
supposed to look like yep.
You know what I'm saying?

1597
01:29:07,300 --> 01:29:12,100
Like I know, I know what you're
supposed to look like, right.

1598
01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:17,100
It's so I think we've got people
that come in that want to make

1599
01:29:17,100 --> 01:29:20,300
it look like what they think and
then going to work, you know I'm

1600
01:29:20,300 --> 01:29:22,000
saying?
So like if I went to visit

1601
01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:24,100
tally.
Well, if I came a hung out with

1602
01:29:24,100 --> 01:29:27,300
you because Be where you live.
The first thing I'm going to do

1603
01:29:27,300 --> 01:29:29,800
if I stay with you for a month
or if I'm hanging out with you,

1604
01:29:30,100 --> 01:29:33,800
I'ma look, listen and learn.
I'm not going to come in saying.

1605
01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:35,700
Well, why don't we park here?
Why are we eating here?

1606
01:29:35,700 --> 01:29:39,000
Why don't you?
I remember Snoop Dogg told a

1607
01:29:39,008 --> 01:29:42,900
story about Nas when he came out
to LA to holler at him and he

1608
01:29:42,900 --> 01:29:45,000
said, they were getting ready to
run up on him because he was

1609
01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:48,000
wearing red, and they were like,
no, no.

1610
01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:50,700
I'm and naz's my God.
He was like, oh, they were okay

1611
01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:54,300
because Naz did no, you don't
say he and that's the kind.

1612
01:29:54,500 --> 01:29:58,000
It's almost like small things.
Like I'm not trying to pick off

1613
01:29:58,000 --> 01:30:01,600
one table when which was in
Blacksburg his 56 years.

1614
01:30:01,600 --> 01:30:04,200
He was there right?
How many commercials in South

1615
01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:05,600
West Virginians?
You see him on how many

1616
01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:08,000
Billboards did you see him or
nothing?

1617
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:11,500
Right, there was no connection.
There was no connection.

1618
01:30:11,800 --> 01:30:13,000
Let me tell you about
Connections.

1619
01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:15,100
Let me tell you something.
This is a small little hustle

1620
01:30:15,100 --> 01:30:20,900
move Beamer had several guys on
the team that will walk ons that

1621
01:30:20,900 --> 01:30:23,200
were from Christiansburg high
school and Blacksburg High

1622
01:30:23,200 --> 01:30:27,500
School, and even Even Pulaski.
Now, I'm not trying to dog those

1623
01:30:27,500 --> 01:30:29,800
guys because those are my
teammates and brothers, what

1624
01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:32,800
they D1, guys.
Some of them end up starting

1625
01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:34,700
temperature and I'm starting
center.

1626
01:30:34,700 --> 01:30:39,400
He was a undersized lineman, but
he had guys in the community

1627
01:30:39,800 --> 01:30:43,300
that were there that got into
school that were Walk-Ons, that

1628
01:30:43,300 --> 01:30:46,600
kept the connectedness.
So, Southwest Virginia had

1629
01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:50,700
people that they could route for
that play, special teams that

1630
01:30:50,700 --> 01:30:53,100
really couldn't hurt the
scholarship count, right?

1631
01:30:53,400 --> 01:30:55,900
This is, these are small.
Chess moves, you make?

1632
01:30:55,900 --> 01:30:57,000
Yep.
You know, I'm saying.

1633
01:30:57,000 --> 01:31:01,100
So but honestly, man, I'm not
trying to disrespect nobody or

1634
01:31:01,100 --> 01:31:04,700
get canceled on y'all.
We gotta get more goons man.

1635
01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:07,600
I don't mean goons that get DUIs
or like my homie.

1636
01:31:07,900 --> 01:31:10,300
And Alabama, that was pushing
weight, that got ran from the

1637
01:31:10,300 --> 01:31:37,100
cops.
Talking about some of the stuff

1638
01:31:37,100 --> 01:31:40,500
we talked about a lot of people
thought that kids should have

1639
01:31:40,500 --> 01:31:44,500
went out of state because of how
connected his father has been in

1640
01:31:44,500 --> 01:31:47,200
prison.
He just got out of prison and a

1641
01:31:47,208 --> 01:31:49,200
lot of people thought he should
have went out of state to get

1642
01:31:49,200 --> 01:31:52,200
away from some of the stuff that
was going to come with.

1643
01:31:52,200 --> 01:31:54,100
Yes Dad.
Just not getting out.

1644
01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:58,800
What the Alabama, you know, his
family just bought him they just

1645
01:31:58,800 --> 01:32:03,100
maybe two weeks ago a month ago.
They just bought him a Scat Pack

1646
01:32:03,100 --> 01:32:06,400
Challenger which is a Crazy Fast
Car expensive.

1647
01:32:06,400 --> 01:32:12,800
Car is why he was going 141
running from the cops but you

1648
01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:15,100
know like this is stuff that's
public record now.

1649
01:32:15,100 --> 01:32:17,300
So we were just talking about
that.

1650
01:32:17,300 --> 01:32:20,000
But the go back what we were
talking about?

1651
01:32:20,400 --> 01:32:24,300
You got to have, you got to have
people on these coaching staff?

1652
01:32:24,400 --> 01:32:28,200
Is that are connected to these
kids, that's going to help them

1653
01:32:28,200 --> 01:32:31,200
get to the next level.
And I said, Alabama doesn't have

1654
01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:34,200
that, you know, that's why Nick
Saban came out and said, what

1655
01:32:34,200 --> 01:32:36,200
are you saying?
Hey, it ain't no such thing as

1656
01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:37,400
wrong place.
Wrong time.

1657
01:32:37,400 --> 01:32:39,100
Yeah.
He's letting the, he's letting

1658
01:32:39,100 --> 01:32:41,400
the public know.
That ain't got nothing to do

1659
01:32:41,400 --> 01:32:44,700
with how we do things here.
Yeah, so I feel like the kids

1660
01:32:44,700 --> 01:32:48,900
cook there, but, you know, I
feel like Tech going back to the

1661
01:32:48,900 --> 01:32:51,300
coaching searches that we've
talked about, in the coaches

1662
01:32:51,300 --> 01:32:54,300
that we have, you got to have
some of those coaches, whether

1663
01:32:54,400 --> 01:32:57,500
Minority coach or coach, this
really, really embedded in the

1664
01:32:57,500 --> 01:33:01,300
minority Community.
They can tell these kids, hey

1665
01:33:01,300 --> 01:33:04,800
man, this is, if you're going to
do this, you got to do this.

1666
01:33:05,000 --> 01:33:07,200
If you're going to go to this
kind of party, you got to have

1667
01:33:07,200 --> 01:33:09,400
this.
You got to have coaches, that

1668
01:33:09,400 --> 01:33:11,200
are able to kind of speak that
lingo.

1669
01:33:11,200 --> 01:33:16,100
So it's a lie.
I'll just, you know, what you

1670
01:33:16,100 --> 01:33:20,900
actually say this to you.
Because I think you also got to

1671
01:33:20,900 --> 01:33:23,800
have It's what goes back to
about Todd?

1672
01:33:23,800 --> 01:33:28,000
Like I don't I pulled a race car
when I need to and I think, you

1673
01:33:28,008 --> 01:33:30,600
know, when you're in Southwest
Virginia, it's important to have

1674
01:33:30,600 --> 01:33:34,800
men that you can talk to because
like, we are so much more than

1675
01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:37,800
athletes.
I met my wife at Tech, I got two

1676
01:33:37,800 --> 01:33:40,900
degrees, but also went through
some challenges.

1677
01:33:41,300 --> 01:33:42,200
Nothing.
Bad.

1678
01:33:42,200 --> 01:33:45,100
No racial profiling but just I
came to Tech.

1679
01:33:45,100 --> 01:33:46,800
It was weird.
I was 17 years old.

1680
01:33:46,800 --> 01:33:50,500
I probably should have graduated
in 95, but I came there, you

1681
01:33:50,500 --> 01:33:54,100
know, young under Her age and
then I turned 18.

1682
01:33:54,500 --> 01:33:58,200
But like it would take DIN and
now it's a big school.

1683
01:33:58,200 --> 01:33:59,800
So culturally it was a
challenge.

1684
01:33:59,800 --> 01:34:03,400
So thank God for people that
were in the athletic department,

1685
01:34:03,400 --> 01:34:06,900
that worked like Dorita
Ratcliffe who was an academic

1686
01:34:06,900 --> 01:34:11,800
advisor and Mentor Troy peace,
who was from DC, who was also in

1687
01:34:11,800 --> 01:34:15,600
the student life Department, who
was a black male that talk to me

1688
01:34:15,600 --> 01:34:18,400
about like, when I was going
through different thing, dating,

1689
01:34:18,700 --> 01:34:22,000
you know, there's a lot of stuff
we deal with, you know, from You

1690
01:34:22,008 --> 01:34:25,100
know, depression from learning
disabilities to, you know, you

1691
01:34:25,100 --> 01:34:28,000
get that phone call where your
mom has to have surgery or, you

1692
01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:31,900
know, you got money problems or
your uncle got locked up fans,

1693
01:34:31,900 --> 01:34:35,700
just see touchdowns positions,
but you got to have people there

1694
01:34:35,700 --> 01:34:38,700
that can relate to you, man.
That's where, you know, and I

1695
01:34:38,700 --> 01:34:40,900
also want to say to with the
whole thing going to lie.

1696
01:34:40,900 --> 01:34:43,900
I don't know why.
We have a small contingency of

1697
01:34:43,900 --> 01:34:47,900
fans that criticize or judge
kids want to go to the NFL.

1698
01:34:48,700 --> 01:34:51,800
I don't, I mean, what is the?
That is what they're there for.

1699
01:34:51,900 --> 01:34:56,300
For I mean so you better
understand how I can get you in

1700
01:34:56,308 --> 01:34:59,800
the league?
Because look man, I have four

1701
01:34:59,800 --> 01:35:03,000
degrees, I'm licensed, I'm a
licensed therapist.

1702
01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:07,200
I take pride in that but there's
a lot of stuff I took at Tech

1703
01:35:07,200 --> 01:35:11,300
and in high school.
I don't use, I don't use so, you

1704
01:35:11,300 --> 01:35:14,700
know, everyone's not there.
And I have friends that do not

1705
01:35:14,700 --> 01:35:17,400
have degrees.
That makes six figures that live

1706
01:35:17,400 --> 01:35:20,600
very well that a blue-collar
that can come in and put down

1707
01:35:20,600 --> 01:35:23,500
new carpet.
Fix your ceiling fan and they're

1708
01:35:23,500 --> 01:35:26,600
very intelligent.
So success comes in different

1709
01:35:26,600 --> 01:35:28,500
shapes and sizes and different
ways.

1710
01:35:28,500 --> 01:35:32,000
And I think ultimately you got
to have people on your staff

1711
01:35:32,200 --> 01:35:35,900
that can relate to your players.
And also understand, like I told

1712
01:35:35,900 --> 01:35:39,500
the story numerous times balmy
Jones, retweeted my tweet and

1713
01:35:39,500 --> 01:35:44,400
one night when I said during
the, Michael Vick 3430 Beamer

1714
01:35:45,100 --> 01:35:50,100
understood us as black men, he
understood.

1715
01:35:50,600 --> 01:35:51,800
Y'all need to go to the Million
Man.

1716
01:35:51,900 --> 01:35:53,200
In March.
What can I do?

1717
01:35:53,200 --> 01:35:54,700
Do you get a plane to need a
bus?

1718
01:35:55,100 --> 01:35:58,000
Because during that time in our
country there was stuff going

1719
01:35:58,000 --> 01:36:01,200
on, we need we wanted to go and
we still want to Sugar Bowl that

1720
01:36:01,200 --> 01:36:05,400
year and won 11 games.
So my point being is that it's

1721
01:36:05,400 --> 01:36:09,900
not always about recruiting and
getting the positions, it's also

1722
01:36:09,900 --> 01:36:12,300
being able to deal with stuff.
Even when I talk about

1723
01:36:12,300 --> 01:36:15,800
relationships, man, because it's
not a big deal now, but, I mean,

1724
01:36:15,800 --> 01:36:18,700
even when you're dating girls,
you dating outside your race.

1725
01:36:18,700 --> 01:36:22,800
You know, we had guys, during
that time from I had never seen

1726
01:36:22,800 --> 01:36:27,200
snow you know, that I had
several guys on my team that

1727
01:36:27,200 --> 01:36:30,700
went to rehab for alcoholism
this is stuff, y'all will never

1728
01:36:30,700 --> 01:36:33,300
know.
But this means that those

1729
01:36:33,300 --> 01:36:37,900
coaches help those young and kit
through and they ended up being

1730
01:36:37,900 --> 01:36:41,000
better for it.
So I didn't mean to go off on my

1731
01:36:41,000 --> 01:36:44,900
pool, he didn't, but I just
think these are things that fans

1732
01:36:44,900 --> 01:36:49,500
just look at position player
wins recruiting and recruiting

1733
01:36:49,500 --> 01:36:54,900
is so much more because Mother
or RT, or grandmother or Mom and

1734
01:36:54,900 --> 01:36:57,600
Dad are sending their sons and
daughters for the female sports

1735
01:36:58,200 --> 01:37:02,500
to a big Power, 5 school for
three to five years and say, I

1736
01:37:02,508 --> 01:37:05,500
need you to make sure my kid
does not leave with charges or

1737
01:37:05,500 --> 01:37:07,800
any unexpected children.
Okay.

1738
01:37:08,600 --> 01:37:12,500
I need you to be able to make
sure his ass gets to class.

1739
01:37:13,000 --> 01:37:16,600
You know, stove, it's that's
what the coaching staff of

1740
01:37:16,600 --> 01:37:19,400
recruiting about it.
Because about having guys, a

1741
01:37:19,407 --> 01:37:21,700
whole lot of trust, gotta have a
whole lot of trust.

1742
01:37:22,200 --> 01:37:25,400
You tell I mean not the what you
do it every time you come on

1743
01:37:25,400 --> 01:37:28,400
here with us, is you paint the
picture that it is a lot of

1744
01:37:28,407 --> 01:37:31,300
small pieces, like you mentioned
having the local guys, but

1745
01:37:31,300 --> 01:37:35,000
you've also like you just said
with Frank, Frank understood

1746
01:37:35,000 --> 01:37:38,200
what being a black male was in
this country when he was

1747
01:37:38,200 --> 01:37:39,600
coaching?
Yeah, he made.

1748
01:37:39,600 --> 01:37:41,900
Sure y'all understood that he
understood.

1749
01:37:41,900 --> 01:37:44,600
Yes.
And, you know, and that's done

1750
01:37:44,600 --> 01:37:48,000
of the bigger Parts.
Is making sure that it's

1751
01:37:48,000 --> 01:37:50,100
related.
It's discussed.

1752
01:37:50,100 --> 01:37:53,700
It's brought to the public
Point, we talk about the rasta,

1753
01:37:53,700 --> 01:37:55,800
the stuff you're talking about
is the stuff behind closed

1754
01:37:55,800 --> 01:37:57,600
doors.
You're talking about having the

1755
01:37:57,600 --> 01:38:01,100
right people on staff.
That, you know, I looked at the

1756
01:38:01,100 --> 01:38:03,400
staff, while you were mentioning
that you got like a deed, you

1757
01:38:03,400 --> 01:38:08,300
got Glenwood further.
You got these guys who come from

1758
01:38:08,300 --> 01:38:11,400
these different places, mmm, who
come from these different

1759
01:38:11,400 --> 01:38:14,000
backgrounds.
So when they see a young guy who

1760
01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:18,400
maybe is on their team, having
some struggles, he can sit right

1761
01:38:18,400 --> 01:38:20,900
next to and let's talk.
I know where you're from, I

1762
01:38:20,907 --> 01:38:23,500
know.
Was all, let's get to where

1763
01:38:23,500 --> 01:38:27,900
you're feeling better about it.
Yep, let's get to, let's get to

1764
01:38:27,900 --> 01:38:29,600
class schedule.
Right, let's figure out what you

1765
01:38:29,608 --> 01:38:31,600
want to major in.
Let's, let's figure out how

1766
01:38:31,600 --> 01:38:34,900
we're going to do it on the
field as figure out the personal

1767
01:38:34,900 --> 01:38:37,100
issues.
And I'm going to put this up

1768
01:38:37,100 --> 01:38:38,900
right here.
This is our buddy coach Compton.

1769
01:38:39,400 --> 01:38:43,700
It's that it's relationships,
relationships relationships,

1770
01:38:43,900 --> 01:38:47,500
it's about relationships.
It's why I love doing this

1771
01:38:47,600 --> 01:38:49,700
podcast for a long time with
Brian.

1772
01:38:49,700 --> 01:38:51,600
That's why we brought tally in,
as well.

1773
01:38:52,000 --> 01:38:54,400
Relationships, we have great
relationships.

1774
01:38:54,400 --> 01:38:57,300
We love having you on because we
have such a good relationship

1775
01:38:57,300 --> 01:39:00,300
with you easy to talk to, you
know, we're gonna throw good

1776
01:39:00,300 --> 01:39:03,000
question, you know, we're not
going to go fucking stupid.

1777
01:39:03,300 --> 01:39:06,100
You know we're not go ask Dad
asked question because if we ask

1778
01:39:06,100 --> 01:39:09,900
stupid questions, two years ago
when he first came on the

1779
01:39:09,900 --> 01:39:12,600
message back to Brian.
The next year, would have been 9

1780
01:39:12,600 --> 01:39:13,800
busy that night.
Sorry.

1781
01:39:13,800 --> 01:39:20,700
Yeah, we don't and we let you
have the floor but I know we're

1782
01:39:20,700 --> 01:39:23,200
in a tighter window.
Because you told us you got a

1783
01:39:23,208 --> 01:39:25,300
kick out of here early we got
three more questions.

1784
01:39:25,300 --> 01:39:26,600
Okay.
These are fun ones.

1785
01:39:26,600 --> 01:39:29,100
These are phone.
I really like though that we hit

1786
01:39:29,100 --> 01:39:30,600
that seriousness piece though
man.

1787
01:39:30,600 --> 01:39:33,700
Because oh yeah, definitely,
it's definitely great to hear

1788
01:39:33,700 --> 01:39:36,900
but we actually the three fun
questions before we let you go

1789
01:39:36,900 --> 01:39:38,500
tonight.
Let's Tell You Gotta Move.

1790
01:39:39,000 --> 01:39:41,200
Yeah, we gonna We gonna, we
gonna go with the like you said,

1791
01:39:41,200 --> 01:39:44,800
was some fun stuff and I know
it's going to be hard, but you

1792
01:39:44,800 --> 01:39:48,100
gotta narrow it down here.
He ain't gonna real easily.

1793
01:39:48,100 --> 01:39:51,700
He got to read most under
appreciated.

1794
01:39:51,800 --> 01:39:56,100
She ate it Hokies all time.
Oh my God, I thought Joseph

1795
01:40:01,100 --> 01:40:22,000
appreciate
Here.

1796
01:40:22,000 --> 01:40:25,000
And she's going to she is she is
going to say, you didn't say

1797
01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:26,200
him.
So I'm just going.

1798
01:40:26,200 --> 01:40:29,700
So I'm just gonna tell y'all
this man.

1799
01:40:29,900 --> 01:40:31,800
We gave you homework later,
right?

1800
01:40:31,800 --> 01:40:33,100
Yeah.
You give you some homework.

1801
01:40:33,100 --> 01:40:36,700
All right.
Awesome comes to mind, Yammer

1802
01:40:36,700 --> 01:40:39,300
new.
Someone of a 55, he went to

1803
01:40:39,300 --> 01:40:45,500
Butler Junior College and I feel
like when but Foster would tell

1804
01:40:45,500 --> 01:40:47,600
you arguing, he's the best
linebacker he ever coaching.

1805
01:40:47,600 --> 01:40:49,300
You think about it?
Linebackers has come to

1806
01:40:49,300 --> 01:40:52,300
Blacksburg.
Yeah, he played at Hampton High

1807
01:40:52,300 --> 01:40:54,900
School with me.
His son is Dad's new, some his

1808
01:40:54,900 --> 01:40:56,700
other son is Deon Newsome
Beyond.

1809
01:40:56,700 --> 01:40:59,300
He's also related to Tyler
Wilson who was a Virginia Tech

1810
01:40:59,300 --> 01:41:03,500
Hokies and also James Wilson who
play Tennessee, but he came in

1811
01:41:03,500 --> 01:41:06,200
and embody what that backer
position was.

1812
01:41:06,200 --> 01:41:08,700
I'm be, I think he's always
going to be forgotten about

1813
01:41:08,700 --> 01:41:11,400
because social media.
He was only a tech for two

1814
01:41:11,400 --> 01:41:15,600
years, but he Led Tech to or
Sugar Bowl championship when

1815
01:41:15,600 --> 01:41:19,400
bowl game win.
And also, 96 Orange Bowl

1816
01:41:19,400 --> 01:41:24,300
appearance against Nebraska and
to conference Inserts and also

1817
01:41:24,300 --> 01:41:28,000
think, you know, he was critical
in setting the tone he played

1818
01:41:28,000 --> 01:41:29,800
with George deal, Rico, and Toni
Morrison.

1819
01:41:29,900 --> 01:41:33,300
Um, there's another one.
Where's Dale Rico?

1820
01:41:33,500 --> 01:41:36,400
Yeah, I'm not seeing the Rico's
unappreciated man.

1821
01:41:36,400 --> 01:41:38,600
Yes, he is it.
That's why I said, this is

1822
01:41:38,600 --> 01:41:40,500
actually a tough question.
Well, so tough.

1823
01:41:41,700 --> 01:41:52,900
Well, I know you got plenty of
would probably be Be I was going

1824
01:41:52,900 --> 01:41:59,500
to say it's gonna sound funny,
but when I want to say Shayne

1825
01:41:59,500 --> 01:42:05,900
Graham, because Shayne Graham is
one of those guys because he's

1826
01:42:05,900 --> 01:42:08,400
very well-spoken on Twitter, he
coaches College.

1827
01:42:08,400 --> 01:42:10,900
He was at Florida.
He was trying to get back at

1828
01:42:10,900 --> 01:42:14,400
Tech but I think we appreciate
him for the miracle in

1829
01:42:14,400 --> 01:42:16,500
Morgantown with him and Mike and
that kick.

1830
01:42:16,700 --> 01:42:19,200
But you gotta understand
something if Beamer ball and

1831
01:42:19,200 --> 01:42:23,900
special teams were so big and
this is a Father, Jimmy, kibble,

1832
01:42:23,900 --> 01:42:27,800
and Shayne Graham because Jimmy
kibble was a punter and he was

1833
01:42:27,800 --> 01:42:31,600
not his known as they came in
together around that same time.

1834
01:42:31,900 --> 01:42:34,500
I think Jimmy Kimmel might have
been a year older, but Shayne

1835
01:42:34,500 --> 01:42:39,800
Graham, his kicks and, and he
was clutch at the right time and

1836
01:42:40,000 --> 01:42:42,000
we don't look at field goal
kickers.

1837
01:42:42,000 --> 01:42:44,600
I know we had some great ones
since him Brandon Pace on the

1838
01:42:44,600 --> 01:42:49,500
guys like that but I just think,
you know, there's one there's

1839
01:42:49,500 --> 01:42:53,400
some guys that we don't he's
Talked about for that kick but

1840
01:42:53,900 --> 01:42:57,400
what he did in Blacksburg during
his time there is remarkable.

1841
01:42:57,400 --> 01:43:02,200
And then again, I got a few
more, any fullback culling

1842
01:43:02,200 --> 01:43:05,300
Hawkins near Fergus any.
Fullback 30 mrs.

1843
01:43:05,800 --> 01:43:09,200
Jeffers Jr.
Ferguson my wife is clapping

1844
01:43:09,200 --> 01:43:15,300
right now, she's like, Gary
Ferguson is a coach at the

1845
01:43:15,300 --> 01:43:18,500
strength coach at Tech now, but
honestly guys, I know are

1846
01:43:18,500 --> 01:43:20,300
younger fans.
Like who are these guys Jarrod

1847
01:43:20,300 --> 01:43:23,700
Ferguson?
Just look at the run against

1848
01:43:23,700 --> 01:43:25,600
Syracuse when he had one shoe
on.

1849
01:43:25,900 --> 01:43:29,200
But also what he did against
Wiley Rainer who was one of the

1850
01:43:29,200 --> 01:43:31,200
best linebackers are UVA
history.

1851
01:43:32,400 --> 01:43:36,300
Just a phenomenal fullback was
physical and he was actually a

1852
01:43:36,308 --> 01:43:40,300
running back he was a walk-on
who earned a scholarship end up

1853
01:43:40,300 --> 01:43:43,200
being one of the best fullback
and that's a position that is

1854
01:43:43,200 --> 01:43:46,200
pretty much dead in the NFL
college and high school like

1855
01:43:46,500 --> 01:43:51,400
full bags in each box now and
I'm trying to think about

1856
01:43:51,400 --> 01:43:52,700
something.
Like something, somebody more

1857
01:43:52,700 --> 01:43:55,200
modern.
Well, I always did here and I

1858
01:43:55,208 --> 01:43:57,200
think Vegas Robinson.
Oh, thank you.

1859
01:43:57,200 --> 01:43:58,700
Sir was an underappreciated
linebacker.

1860
01:43:58,700 --> 01:44:04,900
Yeah, he was a hell of a, yes,
yes, yes, so many in, maybe

1861
01:44:04,900 --> 01:44:06,200
that's it.
We just bring you back into

1862
01:44:06,200 --> 01:44:09,000
summer and we just talked about
the unappreciated guys, and

1863
01:44:09,000 --> 01:44:12,000
we're here for three hours.
We are cuz it's you know, it's

1864
01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:14,600
guys like Ernest Wilford, you
know?

1865
01:44:15,400 --> 01:44:17,300
I mean it's just so many guys,
man.

1866
01:44:18,700 --> 01:44:21,600
I'll tell you one, my wife, just
I'm still in Hershey.

1867
01:44:21,700 --> 01:44:25,600
Just takes you Brian Randall.
Oh, yeah.

1868
01:44:25,700 --> 01:44:28,900
Let me, let me tell you, let me
tell y'all something because I'm

1869
01:44:28,900 --> 01:44:30,800
gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna
throw one out.

1870
01:44:30,900 --> 01:44:34,200
I'm not throwing out to the
white meat, the white make.

1871
01:44:34,200 --> 01:44:37,400
Don't ever go to Tech.
Do we ever do we ever get to the

1872
01:44:37,400 --> 01:44:39,700
Michael Vick in the Marcus Vick?
I'm just saying?

1873
01:44:40,000 --> 01:44:41,900
Yeah, you know, that's a good
point, man.

1874
01:44:41,900 --> 01:44:43,600
That's a good point.
You know, Iris.

1875
01:44:43,700 --> 01:44:45,900
Listen.
I say be messy.

1876
01:45:24,300 --> 01:45:26,200
Man, I'm here because I just had
to put it.

1877
01:45:26,200 --> 01:45:31,100
I know you weren't gonna say it.
So I know because I think we

1878
01:45:31,100 --> 01:45:33,700
appreciate you so much and we
know all that you not.

1879
01:45:33,700 --> 01:45:35,900
Listen, let me tell you all.
Let me tell y'all something.

1880
01:45:36,100 --> 01:45:37,000
I appreciate that.
Curtis.

1881
01:45:37,000 --> 01:45:39,400
Let me tell y'all something and
I'm gonna we going back this

1882
01:45:39,400 --> 01:45:41,600
rent.
I was at the spring game last

1883
01:45:41,600 --> 01:45:44,300
year, brother, and I'm telling
you, and my son gives me a hard

1884
01:45:44,300 --> 01:45:45,700
time because, you know, I'm his
dad.

1885
01:45:45,700 --> 01:45:49,100
But man, I signed hundreds of
autographs.

1886
01:45:49,100 --> 01:45:52,300
Tooks a bunch of pictures, man.
Hokie Nation on my birthday.

1887
01:45:52,700 --> 01:45:55,700
I mean, the fan.
Fans show me love.

1888
01:45:55,700 --> 01:45:58,800
Like I got like a TD reception
record at Tech.

1889
01:45:59,100 --> 01:46:02,600
I was offensive lineman but I go
into like different places and

1890
01:46:02,600 --> 01:46:05,100
kids come up to me.
I sound balls.

1891
01:46:05,100 --> 01:46:07,800
That's why I tell you man.
You can you choose the right

1892
01:46:07,800 --> 01:46:11,600
University?
I played 20 some years ago and I

1893
01:46:11,600 --> 01:46:15,700
have a lot of people who rock
with me hard and that's a

1894
01:46:15,700 --> 01:46:18,700
blessing and shout out to Hokie
nation and this real quick and

1895
01:46:18,700 --> 01:46:20,800
we can wrap up with the other
two questions but I want to

1896
01:46:20,800 --> 01:46:23,600
finish my point by Brian
Randall, I was always a huge

1897
01:46:23,600 --> 01:46:25,800
brown ran.
Fan because it was tough to come

1898
01:46:25,800 --> 01:46:28,300
after Mike and then his brother
come behind you.

1899
01:46:28,800 --> 01:46:31,100
He was benched on national TV
against Miami.

1900
01:46:31,100 --> 01:46:34,300
When we broke Miami's 31 game,
winning streak, right?

1901
01:46:34,700 --> 01:46:37,200
It was bitch for Marcus Marcus
who that great touchdown.

1902
01:46:37,200 --> 01:46:43,400
Pass over Sean Taylor to Ernest
Wilford and he came back him and

1903
01:46:43,400 --> 01:46:46,100
Marcus went back and forth and
started you know, rotate it but

1904
01:46:46,100 --> 01:46:50,000
the following year he came back
when I first year in the ACC and

1905
01:46:50,000 --> 01:46:53,700
he led him to a conference
Championship and they took all

1906
01:46:53,700 --> 01:46:57,400
burnt to the brink of an upset,
they lost 16:13 and Auburn went

1907
01:46:57,400 --> 01:47:01,200
undefeated that year.
So I just think Brian Randall.

1908
01:47:01,800 --> 01:47:04,100
If he plays a different time,
he's appreciated more.

1909
01:47:04,100 --> 01:47:09,400
That's I just I think he's a guy
that I hope tech fans keep

1910
01:47:09,400 --> 01:47:12,500
appreciate him because he's also
he's an excellent father.

1911
01:47:13,000 --> 01:47:15,400
Him a mica, good friends, they
go golfing together.

1912
01:47:15,400 --> 01:47:17,600
I don't do the golfing thing.
I just hit him, talk about it.

1913
01:47:19,700 --> 01:47:21,900
All right.
Second, fun question.

1914
01:47:21,900 --> 01:47:25,400
Alright, we are going to take
the Six, seven, five, seven

1915
01:47:25,400 --> 01:47:29,400
Cruise.
So that's you do white and Mike

1916
01:47:29,500 --> 01:47:34,300
out of this conversation, okay?
All the football seasons and

1917
01:47:34,300 --> 01:47:38,200
Virginia Tech History, what
season makes you say?

1918
01:47:38,200 --> 01:47:43,400
What if the most we mean like
what if like if we like this is

1919
01:47:43,400 --> 01:47:45,300
the one I use because you
mentioned be rain.

1920
01:47:45,800 --> 01:47:49,300
What if in 2004 D hauling?
Kevin Jones decided to come

1921
01:47:49,300 --> 01:47:53,000
back.
Oh, oh, okay.

1922
01:47:53,000 --> 01:47:55,700
I got it.
I can tell you right now I can

1923
01:47:55,700 --> 01:47:59,400
tell you right now go for it.
The what if season?

1924
01:47:59,500 --> 01:48:03,700
The what if season if he Because
it's kind of a tough time for

1925
01:48:03,700 --> 01:48:06,800
our family.
If Marcus doesn't get put out a

1926
01:48:06,800 --> 01:48:10,500
tech and they come back and they
went in National Championship

1927
01:48:10,500 --> 01:48:17,100
070 said that was, as I was 07.
Oh my God, 7.

1928
01:48:17,400 --> 01:48:31,900
That's all that was 07.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1929
01:48:31,900 --> 01:48:34,000
Yeah.
With a date with a deviant,

1930
01:48:34,100 --> 01:48:35,300
right?
Yeah.

1931
01:48:35,300 --> 01:48:37,500
Yeah, yeah.
It was a nasty defense because

1932
01:48:37,500 --> 01:48:40,000
nasty of these awkward produced
14 points.

1933
01:48:40,300 --> 01:48:43,600
If Marcus Marcus comes back,
they're beating Oklahoma.

1934
01:48:43,600 --> 01:48:46,000
Their wing than that.
I'm telling you, I don't even

1935
01:48:46,000 --> 01:48:50,400
gamble that much money.
When I gamble, I'm gambling, I'm

1936
01:48:50,400 --> 01:48:55,400
going Casino style, I'm putting
it on, putting it on the table.

1937
01:48:55,400 --> 01:48:57,100
I'm telling you.
The other one, is the other one

1938
01:48:57,100 --> 01:49:03,600
that behind that is the jury.
A Deadman's, if he comes back,

1939
01:49:03,600 --> 01:49:07,500
you know, but that's mine.
That's what when we talk, that's

1940
01:49:07,500 --> 01:49:10,500
what I don't even like talking
about it because I feel like, if

1941
01:49:10,500 --> 01:49:14,400
you get, if you get Gerard to
come back, you get one of those

1942
01:49:14,400 --> 01:49:17,900
receivers got back.
If not both, you get Bucky and

1943
01:49:17,900 --> 01:49:22,100
Isaiah to come back because that
defense was nasty, so it's nasty

1944
01:49:22,100 --> 01:49:25,700
and 17, probably probably the
nastiest defense since that 07

1945
01:49:25,700 --> 01:49:29,100
defense that 07 yeah.
And then and then the honorable

1946
01:49:29,100 --> 01:49:32,100
mention is again a credit to my
wife is dead.

1947
01:49:32,300 --> 01:49:34,000
This?
Why I married the right woman,

1948
01:49:34,000 --> 01:49:37,300
bro?
Look look, she was like Florida

1949
01:49:37,300 --> 01:49:40,500
State national championship game
because in that game chiron's

1950
01:49:40,500 --> 01:49:45,000
stiff and Ricky Hall, got
injured and that change the

1951
01:49:45,000 --> 01:49:48,600
complexity game and also the
starting safety that year was a

1952
01:49:48,600 --> 01:49:52,000
guy we call mookie AKA Reggie
Samuel Nick Source had to play

1953
01:49:52,000 --> 01:49:53,400
safety.
That was a really his natural

1954
01:49:53,400 --> 01:49:56,000
position.
You know, you be Twinkie in

1955
01:49:56,000 --> 01:49:59,200
those guys.
I know everyone talks about the

1956
01:49:59,200 --> 01:50:01,300
receiver.
They had what's-his-name not

1957
01:50:01,300 --> 01:50:05,700
coals but you know, Work either
War but I think which are on the

1958
01:50:05,700 --> 01:50:07,700
way he was running the ball.
Rick you know that's a that's an

1959
01:50:07,700 --> 01:50:10,700
honorable mention because then
you talking about a national

1960
01:50:10,700 --> 01:50:16,600
championship that's which is the
Ultimate Prize who came up with

1961
01:50:16,600 --> 01:50:18,100
these questions.
These are these are the these

1962
01:50:18,100 --> 01:50:21,600
are good.
Listen I'm doing anything during

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01:50:21,600 --> 01:50:24,700
the summer, I got this up in my
head that I want to do it.

1964
01:50:24,700 --> 01:50:26,400
What if the episode we got
tally?

1965
01:50:26,400 --> 01:50:29,800
I want to get like you, I want
to get like Chris Coleman who's

1966
01:50:29,800 --> 01:50:33,400
an alumni, only got a couple
other lumps and I'd say let's

1967
01:50:33,400 --> 01:50:36,100
talk about.
What if yes, it was talking

1968
01:50:36,100 --> 01:50:39,100
about what let's talk about,
what if hi Rod was quarterback

1969
01:50:39,100 --> 01:50:45,100
in?
2011 OCS, another one, but but

1970
01:50:45,100 --> 01:50:46,900
but I'll give you another what
if?

1971
01:50:46,900 --> 01:50:49,600
But this is more hypothetical,
it's hypothetical.

1972
01:50:49,600 --> 01:50:52,600
It's about family.
Yeah, so I'm just going to say

1973
01:50:52,600 --> 01:50:55,800
something you, tell me what you
think, Mike, Vick and RPO

1974
01:50:55,800 --> 01:50:58,600
system.
He says records that will never

1975
01:50:58,600 --> 01:51:02,600
be broken.
Yeah that's it.

1976
01:51:02,600 --> 01:51:05,500
They're good enough to talk
about me and Mike me and Mike me

1977
01:51:05,500 --> 01:51:08,400
and Mike talked about this to
this day like we talked about

1978
01:51:08,400 --> 01:51:10,900
like as you saw it was Chip
Kelly right?

1979
01:51:10,900 --> 01:51:14,200
And you saw it a little bit with
morning way and Andy Reid, you

1980
01:51:14,200 --> 01:51:19,300
know, I mean you saw what he did
with Avant DeSean Jackson McCoy

1981
01:51:19,300 --> 01:51:23,100
and I listen man, Mike and he
already RPO system.

1982
01:51:23,200 --> 01:51:29,600
And today's game the cheat code
like I'm I mean listen like it's

1983
01:51:29,600 --> 01:51:31,800
just crazy.
You know, you know how Mike he

1984
01:51:31,800 --> 01:51:34,100
was a cheat, code running the
power option, I mean, you know,

1985
01:51:34,100 --> 01:51:37,300
he's going to be a cheap.
Come on, man, my son.

1986
01:51:37,300 --> 01:51:40,300
My son used to roast us when you
know he watches, I game on

1987
01:51:40,300 --> 01:51:44,600
YouTube or ESPN classic because
he was like, hey, yo dawg, y'all

1988
01:51:44,600 --> 01:51:48,000
running the ball on Third and
six and getting first downs.

1989
01:51:50,000 --> 01:51:54,400
That's how much we ran the ball
in the 90s but Mike Mike.

1990
01:51:54,400 --> 01:51:57,600
And that's how I sold my toe.
I told him I said If you come

1991
01:51:57,600 --> 01:52:00,900
and check, man, you'll play,
you'll take us to the National

1992
01:52:00,900 --> 01:52:02,100
chair.
I told him this, you take it to

1993
01:52:02,100 --> 01:52:05,100
the national championship game
and you'll be up for the Heisman

1994
01:52:05,400 --> 01:52:09,700
I said, because I offense is
that good where it's efficient

1995
01:52:09,700 --> 01:52:11,900
but you'll be such a big play
maker.

1996
01:52:11,900 --> 01:52:17,800
But yeah, being in the arp arp.
Oh Mike is Mike, is Sensational

1997
01:52:17,800 --> 01:52:20,000
what would future say
Sensational?

1998
01:52:20,800 --> 01:52:25,900
Yeah.
Yeah, I know.

1999
01:52:25,900 --> 01:52:31,200
You got to get out.
A little bit about spring game

2000
01:52:31,300 --> 01:52:35,100
and last year spring game, I'm
coming up this year.

2001
01:52:35,100 --> 01:52:39,000
I've already made my already
made my reservation.

2002
01:52:39,000 --> 01:52:41,700
Sir Brian's gonna be there we're
going to have Curtis day and

2003
01:52:41,700 --> 01:52:44,800
spirit what can we do?
What can we expect to see you?

2004
01:52:45,400 --> 01:52:49,000
You know the sons of Saturday.
Want me to come by that party to

2005
01:52:49,000 --> 01:52:52,100
have and I'm just I got to get
some more guys for my are it's

2006
01:52:52,100 --> 01:52:56,200
gonna be a lot of former players
as I told you guys an hour and

2007
01:52:56,200 --> 01:52:58,500
change.
Go, I'm Goin kid list this year,

2008
01:52:59,000 --> 01:53:04,000
so I will tell y'all man.
Like, without trying to get

2009
01:53:04,000 --> 01:53:07,000
emotional, Virginia Tech is home
for me.

2010
01:53:07,900 --> 01:53:10,500
It's done so much for my life.
I met my wife there.

2011
01:53:10,500 --> 01:53:13,300
Friends for life, teammates.
I get my best sleep in

2012
01:53:13,308 --> 01:53:16,500
Blacksburg.
So when I come up on Friday, I

2013
01:53:16,500 --> 01:53:18,900
literally just try to get
everywhere.

2014
01:53:19,300 --> 01:53:22,900
So when y'all hit me and tell me
y'all tailgating somewhere, I'm

2015
01:53:22,900 --> 01:53:26,000
gonna come over there.
Have a drink, you know, chop it

2016
01:53:26,000 --> 01:53:27,500
up.
Take a Picture with y'all.

2017
01:53:27,700 --> 01:53:30,900
So man, I'm a humble guy.
I love the love.

2018
01:53:30,900 --> 01:53:32,600
I get from all of y'all in the
fans.

2019
01:53:32,600 --> 01:53:35,900
I get so much.
Love is crazy, but the same time

2020
01:53:35,900 --> 01:53:38,100
man.
Like for me, it's nostalgic

2021
01:53:38,100 --> 01:53:40,400
because I helped build something
that's bigger than me.

2022
01:53:40,900 --> 01:53:43,900
So I got and I'm corny real, I'm
corny.

2023
01:53:43,900 --> 01:53:46,100
Right.
I go by like all my different

2024
01:53:46,100 --> 01:53:48,700
apartments.
I lived at from Fox Ridge to

2025
01:53:49,900 --> 01:53:52,900
drop by and we go, I go to the
bookstore way.

2026
01:53:53,000 --> 01:53:56,500
I go to the bookstore.
I met my wife and I go back to

2027
01:53:56,600 --> 01:54:01,300
This View and I talked to
everybody, I just see people, I

2028
01:54:01,300 --> 01:54:06,100
go to McAdoo's, I go to new
listen, New River Valley Mall,

2029
01:54:06,100 --> 01:54:08,300
then and now ain't never had
nothing for me.

2030
01:54:08,300 --> 01:54:13,400
But I going to anyway you know
you know so like for me man

2031
01:54:14,800 --> 01:54:16,700
those three days.
I'm in Blacksburg.

2032
01:54:16,700 --> 01:54:19,400
I was up there one time a group
of us went up there for this

2033
01:54:19,400 --> 01:54:24,500
spring game and it was like, 69
70 degrees on Saturday for the

2034
01:54:24,500 --> 01:54:28,100
game and on Sunday morning It
was six inches and Counting of

2035
01:54:28,100 --> 01:54:30,700
snow that's Tech, right?
Yeah.

2036
01:54:30,700 --> 01:54:35,800
And we drove back in it and we
will find but yeah man you guys

2037
01:54:35,800 --> 01:54:40,700
will see me everywhere, man.
But I'm just I take it all in

2038
01:54:40,700 --> 01:54:42,800
man.
Like I I'm still old school

2039
01:54:42,800 --> 01:54:46,100
where I go to Hardy's.
I go to Hardee's on Saturday

2040
01:54:46,100 --> 01:54:49,700
morning and I see all the older
golden Hokies with their stuff

2041
01:54:49,700 --> 01:54:55,000
on and I go grab me a biscuit or
whatever and no people here, go

2042
01:54:55,000 --> 01:54:56,400
to hardest be reading the
newspaper.

2043
01:54:56,600 --> 01:55:01,100
Do you like it was really new
for you and Harvey?

2044
01:55:01,100 --> 01:55:05,300
Is they do man?
I told you he's in South Boston

2045
01:55:05,300 --> 01:55:06,400
the same way.
Amen.

2046
01:55:16,500 --> 01:55:20,400
I love seeing the future.
Like I love the fact, I'm still

2047
01:55:20,400 --> 01:55:23,800
a relevant but I'm excited about
the future and that's why I like

2048
01:55:23,800 --> 01:55:26,600
I'm really rooting for Pride to
get this right man because So

2049
01:55:27,000 --> 01:55:30,900
you guys all know this and when
you saw it, when tally held that

2050
01:55:30,900 --> 01:55:34,800
postgame, Twitter space after
they lost 2-0 to you at one

2051
01:55:34,800 --> 01:55:39,700
point that night, he had 320
people on there, right?

2052
01:55:39,800 --> 01:55:41,300
Yep, it's great.
Little on there.

2053
01:55:41,300 --> 01:55:43,700
It's almost 2:00 3:00 in the
morning right now.

2054
01:55:43,700 --> 01:55:46,400
Here's the thing.
Imagine if you get a product

2055
01:55:46,400 --> 01:55:51,900
that's worth watching, I wish I
was in, I was in FedEx when we

2056
01:55:51,900 --> 01:55:55,900
had USC on in Boise State on the
ropes, I was there you talking

2057
01:55:55,900 --> 01:55:59,600
about 9,000 people look at that,
whatever.

2058
01:55:59,600 --> 01:56:05,500
Yeah, well that's what happens
when you live it.

2059
01:56:05,700 --> 01:56:07,200
I'm sorry guys.
I get going.

2060
01:56:07,200 --> 01:56:08,700
I get passion.
I'm so sorry.

2061
01:56:08,700 --> 01:56:12,200
No, no, no.
Yeah, we just went to hours and

2062
01:56:12,200 --> 01:56:14,800
it's been fun.
It's been informative.

2063
01:56:14,800 --> 01:56:17,600
We love your stories to why we
love love, man.

2064
01:56:17,600 --> 01:56:20,500
You don't even know.
I wish I will be there in spirit

2065
01:56:20,900 --> 01:56:24,000
but as a lie and we've said it
with Father's.

2066
01:56:24,000 --> 01:56:26,600
I've got two kids playing
baseball, one kids doing A

2067
01:56:26,600 --> 01:56:29,000
school play.
I can't leave mama here with the

2068
01:56:29,008 --> 01:56:31,400
baby and all the boys doing all
that stuff for.

2069
01:56:31,700 --> 01:56:34,500
I just can't do it one of those.
Yeah.

2070
01:56:56,600 --> 01:56:59,400
When they piss you off, man,
appreciate that life.

2071
01:56:59,700 --> 01:57:01,900
Shout out to my man, Derek
Smith, one of my best friend's

2072
01:57:01,900 --> 01:57:05,200
battling cancer right now.
He got two beautiful daughters.

2073
01:57:05,500 --> 01:57:08,800
He called me when he first found
out because you know, what hit

2074
01:57:08,800 --> 01:57:11,900
him was, he didn't want to lose
his be around his not be around

2075
01:57:11,900 --> 01:57:14,900
his daughters.
So don't worry about, you can't

2076
01:57:14,900 --> 01:57:17,300
be to the spring game because
you're going to be with your

2077
01:57:17,300 --> 01:57:22,300
kids like i��ve learned over the
years man, to appreciate life.

2078
01:57:22,300 --> 01:57:25,300
And my kids, and my friends, and
my family more than anything

2079
01:57:25,600 --> 01:57:29,300
because the oldies Getting life.
The more you realize man at any

2080
01:57:29,300 --> 01:57:31,000
moment it could be your last
breath.

2081
01:57:31,400 --> 01:57:34,600
So you know, saying, hey look
and shout out to y'all, man.

2082
01:57:35,000 --> 01:57:37,000
I love y'all tally.
I'm glad you're adding him

2083
01:57:37,000 --> 01:57:40,800
tallies my dude be in cursor.
I appreciate this.

2084
01:57:40,800 --> 01:57:43,700
You guys know during the last
23.

2085
01:57:43,700 --> 01:57:45,800
I jump on here at a comment
here.

2086
01:57:46,200 --> 01:57:48,600
Hey, I love it.
So I didn't man, I appreciate

2087
01:57:48,600 --> 01:57:50,100
you.
We appreciate you jumping on

2088
01:57:50,100 --> 01:57:52,300
giving him the commentary during
the other live streams.

2089
01:57:52,300 --> 01:57:55,700
And obviously love when you can
jump on him, chop it up with us

2090
01:57:55,700 --> 01:57:56,400
for two hours.
Yeah.

2091
01:57:56,600 --> 01:57:59,300
No anytime anytime and keep
doing your thing.

2092
01:57:59,600 --> 01:58:03,300
I know the VT podcast Community
has bananas, man, but the one

2093
01:58:03,300 --> 01:58:05,100
thing is most of us rock with
each other.

2094
01:58:05,400 --> 01:58:07,100
You know I'm saying.
Everybody has a different

2095
01:58:07,100 --> 01:58:10,200
perspective but at the same
time, it's all love man.

2096
01:58:10,700 --> 01:58:13,400
I just want us to keep doing it
and I can't wait for the day

2097
01:58:13,900 --> 01:58:16,200
when we're talking about a
conference Championship and the

2098
01:58:16,200 --> 01:58:19,300
potential playoff berth, I am so
lonely.

2099
01:58:19,800 --> 01:58:22,800
I'm so tired of mediocracy.
God knows I am.

2100
01:58:23,600 --> 01:58:26,400
We all are man.
Yes sir, time to get back in.

2101
01:58:26,500 --> 01:58:30,800
Callie says he's got this, just
this feeling this year since I

2102
01:58:30,800 --> 01:58:33,700
got this feeling I got I got
some optimism this year man.

2103
01:58:33,700 --> 01:58:46,200
Yeah we're with progress that
wraps up this episode of D

2104
01:58:46,200 --> 01:58:49,000
boundary Corner podcast brought
to you by the Main Street.

2105
01:58:49,000 --> 01:58:52,100
Pharmacy in Blacksburg go see
German when y'all go to spring

2106
01:58:52,100 --> 01:58:56,000
game as we.
Thank I guess, Dwight Vic for

2107
01:58:56,000 --> 01:58:57,600
tonight.
I'm Curtis Wilson.

2108
01:58:58,200 --> 01:59:01,900
I'm Brian siglo Taliban.
Visit our website.

2109
01:59:01,900 --> 01:59:06,100
Benji corner be t.com to listen
to all of our episodes including

2110
01:59:06,100 --> 01:59:09,200
two previous interviews with mr.
Dwight Vic, which was always

2111
01:59:09,200 --> 01:59:12,600
fun.
Also, check out our new launched

2112
01:59:12,600 --> 01:59:15,300
merchandise shop, tally, show
them what you got there.

2113
01:59:16,300 --> 01:59:18,300
I had I seen this thing for two
days.

2114
01:59:18,300 --> 01:59:22,000
Two days.
We still we still going still

2115
01:59:22,000 --> 01:59:30,500
going.
I feel like we need to get

2116
01:59:30,500 --> 01:59:33,200
together one Saturday and put
them together again, because we

2117
01:59:33,200 --> 01:59:37,300
came up with some good stuff.
The first time also, when you're

2118
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2119
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2120
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Amazon, Apple podcast, where on

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All Jason long is our buddy.

2122
01:59:48,300 --> 01:59:50,600
Down in the New River, Valley
down in Roanoke.

2123
01:59:50,600 --> 01:59:53,300
He plays Us in, he plays the
South, he still has no Live

2124
01:59:53,300 --> 01:59:57,100
Events right now but we know he
is actually Getting in some

2125
01:59:57,100 --> 01:59:59,900
recording stuff, so he might
have something released pretty

2126
01:59:59,900 --> 02:00:02,400
soon.
Check him out on his website.

2127
02:00:02,400 --> 02:00:06,000
Jason La music.com where he will
link you to all of his music

2128
02:00:06,700 --> 02:00:09,300
Spotify, YouTube, and Facebook
pages.

2129
02:00:09,400 --> 02:00:11,400
We thank you, as always for
listening.

2130
02:00:11,600 --> 02:00:13,400
And as always, let's go.

Dwight Vick

Hokie Legend/Vicktory Life Founder

Dwight is a proud graduate of Virginia Tech. While at Virginia Tech, Dwight played for the legendary Coach Frank Beamer as an offensive lineman from 1994-1999.

In an effort to help youth achieve their dreams of becoming successful, he created Vicktory Life in 2018 and works as the Director of Student Development. In this role, he provides therapeutic mentoring to at risk youth focuses on goal setting, career development, time management, and life skills.

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