Da Ginger Freak

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The.
You are muted, Curtis.

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Tell me that we go live y'all,
for free.

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Welcome back to the Boundary
Corner podcast along with my

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partner Brian Siegler, Shelton
Moss and.

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What a start.
What a start.

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Man, we dailing this one.
I practiced 2 months on the

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pronunciations tonight guys and
it screwed me all up.

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This episode is always just
brought to you by Doctor Jeremy

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Counts down at the Counts Family
Pharmacy, your friendly

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neighborhood pharmacy Three O 1
S Main St. in Blacksburg.

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I was about to say Shelton
Talley and Jonathan Moss.

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Adam screwed up everything at
the beginning of this house.

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That's a good name.
Amen.

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Jonathan Moss kind of hits that
sounds like a wide receiver if I

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ever heard.
You go Sheldon Moss.

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There you go.
Sheldon Moss does sound like a

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wide receiver.
Sheldon Tally sounds like a

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lineman.
How's everybody doing tonight?

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Long time fellas.
I think we're doing all right.

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I mean, we're hanging in there.
Everybody should be good, man.

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You're about to start sensing
football.

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We got football on TV next week.
We do tomorrow.

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Tomorrow.
Oh, it is tomorrow.

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Game is tomorrow.
Tomorrow.

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Tally in the process of buying a
house.

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Sheldon about to get started
with some volleyball in a few

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weeks here.
A lot of fun shit kids about to

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get back to school.
Thank the Lord.

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Hey, and we're about, we're
about starting right now until

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sometime in December, you're
going to see us every week.

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Every week, every week we're
going to be here and it's pretty

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awesome.
Tonight we do have a very

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special guest.
We're going to go ahead and

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bring him in.
Defensive lineman, 4 year

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Virginia Tech cokies.
Let's see if I got this right.

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James Jankum, bring him in.
The Ginger Freak.

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In the flesh, baby Pronounce.
It.

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Right, though, James Jankum,
sometimes even I messed it up.

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I'm saying dejunko.
Which, hey, whichever way you

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want to say.
Just as long as you say, yeah, I

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mean, James, like the junk man
like.

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The junk.
Man, I like the.

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Like that I.
Like, I know I've been going off

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in the game with him.
I'm just go ahead and say.

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That that's right.
I know with the official

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pronunciation you got you got
your name, but she also got

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James thrown in.
Ginger.

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Oh yeah, without a doubt.
That's that's my second name.

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All right, all right.
There we go.

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How you doing this evening, man?
You sitting there?

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It looked like you were grubbing
on some sushi.

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Was that sushi?
Yesterday.

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Oh no, we actually see this is
This is why I love Virginia

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tank.
They got us with some nice

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boneless chicken wings right
here there we go We got given

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the 24 pack like like you only
get fed like this at P4 schools.

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I mean, I don't know.
Man, hey, so so we're on the

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the.
Like.

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Eve of camp right now, like
everything.

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Everything's about to get going
all right.

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Are you going to be able to
sleep after this?

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I won't, but just knowing that
tomorrow we start camp and we're

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30 days away from the first
game, I cannot wait.

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I really can't.
But I'm just more focused on

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getting better every single day
through camp because there's

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still a lot of stuff I got to
learn to get better at.

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So I'm really just, I'm excited
for that process and that grind.

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Has it always been?
Has it always been like that for

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you?
Like the day before, can't

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weather high school or college
like just wired.

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Like I like I'll be going, I'll
be going to sleep watching Ray

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Lewis or James Harrison's
Football for Life.

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And just like getting so pumped
up and just like I can't wait to

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do that.
I can't wait to have my own

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football for like documentary or
my own my own 30 for 30.

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But it's just, it's really just
the excitement of it's football

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24/7.
Yeah.

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I mean, that's the part that I
love the most because I love

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this game.
Like I, I never get burnt out,

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never get tired.
Like it's nice having everybody

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on the team kind of like we're
all in the same cup of time now.

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So it's it's late.
Jay, can you remember them as

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your teammates please?
Do not hurt nobody on that

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offense.
We we meet everybody that's on

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the six.
Hey, I'm saying that's all I can

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say.
If I get hurt, I get hurt.

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They get hurt, they get hurt.
But we don't go out during

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practice, that's for sure.
Hey, that's football right

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there, man.
Hey, you got you got to love

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that mentality, though.
But I know you, this is your

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first, this is your first camp
at Virginia Tech.

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I know you've been through some
through some fall camp so far,

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though.
So when you're going through

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that camp, is there a certain
time where your body just kind

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of gets used to the to the
banging around and the hitting

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after you've been through camp?
It's about halfway through Week

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2 because you know, I mean that
first week is just helmets and

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shells.
I mean really just helmets for

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the first two days.
Then the third day we finally

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get shoulder pads, we get to hit
him and then we don't really get

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a hit till like I guess we don't
get to go live from my past

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experience, like the second
week.

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So it's really like after that
second week, after that live

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practice, like 2 days after that
live practice when it's like,

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all right, we went live.
We've been go live for a damn

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near 2O2 days.
Do you still have that same

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intensity?
I always got it.

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That chip on my shoulder never,
never falls off.

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That's.
What's up?

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Yeah.
So James, let's let's talk a

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little bit about your journey
for people who may not know you

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as well.
Just start out you're, you're a

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Virginia kid from Springfield.
You, you hit up Independence

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Community College out in Kansas
to get your start.

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And then you transfer to Arizona
State where he spent a couple

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years, got some decent playing
time over there.

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And then you go to Eastern
Michigan where, for those who

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don't know, he was not only the
highest graded linebacker or

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highest grade defensive player
on the Eastern Michigan squad

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last year, but the 19th highest
graded linebacker in the

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country.
Even though you've played a

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little bit a defensive line as
well.

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We'll talk about that in a
little bit because you're

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obviously a very versatile
player.

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But all these different schools,
different places.

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Tell us about your journey and
what do you think you've learned

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about yourself along the way?
I mean, one thing I learned by

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myself is that I'm resilient.
Like there's nothing that can

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that can be in front of me that
can stop me because I don't had

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some injuries that people would
have just packed it in and say,

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you know what, I'm just going to
go work a nine to five.

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And I've had situations where
it's like, Dang, I don't think I

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can make it out of this.
Like even before I went to

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Independence Community College,
I went to the school, I went to

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a private school my senior year,
what called Avalon.

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And that was an hour and 45
minute metro ride there and

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back.
And not to mention even after

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games, nobody lived in my area.
So I had to take the metro home

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after games.
You know, I mean, hurt, bruised

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ankle, messed up turf toe
walking on the metro, my

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shoulder pads in gear just to go
home.

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So it's like it was that was
that situation that really

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showed me that like if I went
through that, I can go through

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anything like injury on the way
is not going to stop me from

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getting to the league and
becoming a Hall of Famer.

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So it was really that it was
that that semester that really

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taught me like anything that I
face I can overcome.

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Like I didn't, I didn't started
that little the legit bottom and

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crawled my way up to get to get
to where I'm at right now.

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Yeah, I know we talked about
this a little off offline, but

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like stuff like that, like that
part of your journey that that

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that shows and and you learn
real quick how much you love

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football or whether you don't
love football, right?

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Like if you're when you're going
through that type of thing, you

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learn very quickly.
I love this game enough to to to

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give it the blood and give it
the time and give it all that

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effort.
Yeah, that's facts.

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And that's without a doubt I do
because I've seen so many people

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from my high schools to
especially junior college where

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it's like you see so many
talented people who just don't

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have the, the correct mindset or
the necessary mindset, you know

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what I mean?
And it's just like, it's, it's

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that mindset of, oh, I'm already
good enough when you're really

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not him yet, you know what I
mean?

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And that's why that's something
I've never had.

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Like I've always felt like when
I went to JUCO, I knew this, I

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noticed that because it was
during 2020 COVID and all that.

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We're having Zoom meetings and
I'm looking at Zoom meeting.

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I see one kid is committed to
Auburn and then another kid

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who's Kentucky bounced back and
I'm fighting for a spot to try

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to get between either that mic
or that will spot to try to get

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in.
So it's like even before I went

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to junior college, I was already
like, I got to become a

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different animal, you know what
I mean?

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For me to even see the field or
me to even be a 2 like these

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people are power 5 level players
that I have to become to even

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compete with them and beat them
out of a spot.

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So it was like even before I
went JUCO I was in my backyard

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grinding, lifting weights, going
to the field behind my house and

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running my ass off like it was.
It's so much dedication that I

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put into this game that I I
can't wait for it to auto

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confirmation this season.
Man, that that's, that's

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unbelievable because you talk
about your journey, you talk

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about injuries and you talk
about going JUCO, you talk about

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you went to Arizona State.
And correct me if I'm wrong,

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that's when Herm was coached.
You got recruited by his staff

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back in 2020.
Yeah, I got recruited by Marvin

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Lewis and also originally they
recruited me for a linebacker.

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Linebacker.
Yep.

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And then midway through the
season, after unfortunately Herm

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got fired, Coach Oguano was
like, I mean, we we had a

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conversation.
I didn't know if I was going to

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red shirt or not.
And we decided it's best that we

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have some injuries at defensive
end or edge and we're like,

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look, we could really use you at
that spot.

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You'll get a lot more playing
time.

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And I was like, look, you know
what, if I can, if it's best for

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the team, let's do it.
So I got about 7 or 8 games at

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defensive end my first year at
Arizona State.

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And there's the play.
We're going to show a picture in

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a little while.
There's a play you made against

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Cal.
I wish Brian could have snipped

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it.
It was in your Eastern mission

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commitment, I guess the signing
day for Eastern Michigan where

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you you laid somebody else.
But I I can't take that away

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from Tally.
I guess the other thing I want

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to ask before I jump to my next
question is, oh, oh, no.

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Did we lose you?
Oh, shit.

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We were rolling you there, man,
James.

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On in a minute.
What happened?

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He's back.
Andy's back, Andy's off.

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Andy's back.
Can you hear us?

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Yeah, let me turn.
Let me turn my phone off.

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Do not disturb.
All right.

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My fault, guys.
You're.

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Blowing up.
You're blowing up.

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Hey, you know what?
Somebody said we see you on TV

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right now.
Like hey, shout me out.

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We anybody you want to shout or
anything you need to shout out,

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we'll we'll give you a piece
here as we wrap it up.

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But here's my thing, you have
went so you had your you

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coaching staff, you had the Herm
coaching staff, the Dillingham

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coaching staff.
When you you have been through a

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bunch of coaches and you know,
obviously we've got ours now,

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but I want to talk about our
guys in just a second.

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But who have those guys made
like an impression on you?

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Like who like Marvin Lewis
coached in the NFL for years.

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Herm coached like Marvin Lewis
was since named for like a

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decade.
Like any of those that they

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instill or do something new as
part of that journey that really

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has stuck with you.
The one thing that Marvel Lewis

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did, he gave me confidence that
I did not have like I like.

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And it's not I'm a cocky guy
when I'm on the field because my

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preparation, that gives me
confidence.

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But my first.
They hit him up again.

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Hit.
Him up again.

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We are live people.
That's what happened when you

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are live.
Yeah, I don't know why they keep

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calling me man, but what he said
it was, I think like a couple

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weeks after fall camp, he was
like, look, man, I'm I'm proud

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of you.
Like you're everything that we

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thought you was going to be.
And the one thing I would say is

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that, son, once you once you
learn how to use your hands and

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really defeat these blocks and
all that, there's no doubt in my

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mind that you could be a draft
pick one day.

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And like, he probably didn't
understand how impactful that

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was.
Like for me to hear that, but it

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seems like I'm like Marvin
freaking Lewis just said I could

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be a draft pick one day if I
just learn how to use my hands.

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So from that, moving on, I'm
watching.

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Yeah.
I mean, Des Walker pass rush

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videos, all that trying to get
right.

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And it, it, it helped me because
now I have like, I was that

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linebacker and I was still able
to play the edge because I still

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had that mentality of like
having that good hands and all

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that good footwork.
So it was really like Marvin

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Lewis gave me that confidence to
know that, look, you worked

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hard.
I see your your hard work but

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you still got to improve your
game to be a draft pick.

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I love hearing that, man.
Let's talk about your current

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coach.
Let's talk about current

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defensive coordinator, Coach
Cefkis.

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We're all kind of getting to
know him.

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You know, he got hired about the
same time you came in.

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You know, we've we've obviously
done the backgrounds.

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Everybody knows time at Wofford,
time in the NFL.

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But when y'all are in practice
or maybe in a meeting room or,

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you know, doing something on the
grease board, is there a

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telltale sign like whether it's
you or the whole unit or

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somebody else where you know,
you just had a really good Rep

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or you just impressed him?
Does he do anything?

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Because obviously your guys are
young men, like you said, that

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confidence.
Is there anything he says or

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does that you know, I did it
right, Coach.

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Like what coach keep just
reminds me of is kind of like a

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like a Bill Belichick type of
coach.

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He's not going to show too much
emotion.

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But when you do some good, she's
going, Hey, Ginge, he will he

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will DAP you up just like keep
it low key.

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But it's still like, oh shit, I
got a sack of Kyron Jones coach

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coming over.
You DAP me.

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I'm like, all right, that I did
some good shit.

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OK, bet.
But like one thing about Coach

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Keed is that he's a leader of
men like in our locker room,

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like what I said earlier about
iron sharpens iron I got I

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literally just got that from
him.

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Like the meeting we was just and
he said, look, we want to keep

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everybody on on this team safe.
But at the end of the day, we're

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not going to do no
brother-in-law shit when it's in

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between the lines.
We're going to attack.

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Yeah.
Oh shit, let's get it.

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That's the sound bite right
there, lady.

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That is the sound.
Bite right there with that.

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Put that, put it on all the
social for the rest of.

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The week right there.
I love defense.

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It's like even when he was
coming in with the Arizona

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defense, like couple guys were a
little bit worried.

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I was, I was a little bit
worried too, because I'm like,

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OK, I've played linebacker, I've
played defensive end, you know

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what I mean?
What do I fit in this game?

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You want me at linebacker?
I can play inside.

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You want me at edge, I can play
edge.

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You want me AD line, I can play
D line.

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Like so we just like we had that
conversation and it was like,

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really, we're going to use you
where we feel like you could be

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most productive.
And I I started like in spring

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ball.
I'm not sure you guys know, but

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I started at outside linebacker
and then they're like, look,

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you're a big guy.
We need some depth at edge or at

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end.
So they moved me the end and

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from there I just took off like
from there.

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It's like it was, it was less
thinking than outside linebacker

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and especially inside linebacker
and it was just like, it's

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really just drop your nuts and
don't let the don't let the guy

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in front of you beat you.
So.

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Whoop his ass everybody.
So James, I mean you, I don't

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know no other way you can say it
than the way you said it.

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But the question I was going to
ask did you kind of answer was

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you've you've shown a lot of
versatility just in your play

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from what we've seen watching
film and stuff.

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But what like what skill in your
two set makes you like so

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versatile?
Definitely my work ethic because

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it's it's just something that
I've never been the fastest,

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strongest, biggest or even
smartest.

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Like I've just had that grind
where I'm going to rewrite the

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same play down until 3:00 in the
morning until I get it

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instinctively.
And then once I get it, I'm

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going to write it down again.
Because if I know this play,

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like if I know this playbook
like the back of my hand, then I

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can start playing within the
playbook.

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Like if I know I got, let's say,
if I have a stunt on the

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offensive tackle and I know that
maybe a safety is coming to

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blitz.
All right, bet that he's coming

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from death, so I can get a
little bit more width, get in

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his face a little bit, then
redirect and get in my get in my

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gap.
So it's just it's just knowing

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like who's blitzing, what's
happening within the play, not

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just, oh, I'm in this gap.
I got to go to this gap.

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You know, I mean, it's just it's
knowing the whole the defense as

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a whole.
And that's why that's where I

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dominate because like I played
linebacker.

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I know all the coverages that's
going on behind me.

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Like I know in cover 2 that
shit, I might have some help

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from the safety if he's covered
in the flat.

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So boom, if I really want to and
I know that it's not 2 by two

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and it's 3 by 1 in the
receiver's pod, I could run like

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a quick go route.
I might have that safety for or

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that corner for help, so I can
probably take an inside move,

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let the quarterback like little
stuff like that, that I feel

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like my knowledge can help me
make more plays or take take

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smarter risks.
That's what.

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I'd say, yeah, it's that whole,
you've been at two different

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levels, right?
Like you haven't been at the

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back end, but you've been on the
you've been in the linebacker

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room, you've been in the
defensive end or defensive line

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in general.
Don't.

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Say that, don't say that.
One hey, it's.

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Spring ask Ask Coach Martin in
spring.

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What was it?
Yeah, beginning of spring in

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2022.
I was with the DBS because.

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I was like I.
Don't even know how to cover.

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I need my, I need my DB
pedigree.

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There we go.
First two weeks I was with the

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DBS, working on my back pedal,
all that.

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Well, I had to know because like
so everything I've read like

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early on in your career, like
you were heavy a special teams.

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I was like, ain't no way that he
played that much special teams

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that hadn't seen some degree of,
of that coverage element and

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aspect of it as well.
Because I mean, usually anybody

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that's that's, that's got that
specialties pedigree that's

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actually getting called out for
their specialties work has that

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versatility and that ability to,
to kind of play in coverage and,

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and kind of understand those
concepts.

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I was able to, but it obviously
like it's, but it was my

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specialty like special teams.
I loved it because it's

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somewhere I knew I could dump,
like kick off.

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It's probably my favorite play
of the game.

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I'm talking to Coach Moore right
now.

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I'm begging.
I'm like, look, let me be the

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L5.
I know I gained a little bit of

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weight, you know, I mean, I
ain't running 21 mph right now,

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but hey, I'll still get down
there.

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It's like that's fine.
That's my favorite play.

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Like they got to block you like
they can't, they can't cut you.

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Like you got to be a head on,
head on block.

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And if you want to double team,
you bet.

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I'll run through both of them
like.

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I know I'm gonna get some
contact and I and I might get to

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take somebody's head off so and.
That's just like that's the

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biggest tone setter.
Like even if the ball goes out

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of bounds, you knock them.
I mean, you knock somebody on

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their ass.
Like that shows the other team.

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Oh, oh, they came to play.
It's like that one play.

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UNC versus Appalachian.
I think like like I forgot the

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school was called Appalachian.
App state.

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Yeah, App State they did like a
little onside kick to them.

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And then I just remember the USC
just charged them on the on the

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kickoff return.
I'm like, I've never seen that

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for a kickoff return team.
But that was hard because that

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set the tone.
But yeah, it was just like for

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me playing special teams, hands
down creating my identity of I'm

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I'm selfless, like I'll do
anything for the team.

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Like literally what my search
says, it's it's team over me.

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And I mean, whatever I can do to
contribute to the team, I'm

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going to get it done.
Well, man, you're 64.

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You got a pretty long wingspan.
I think they can sneak up in

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there and you can get up for one
this year, take away some points

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off the board.
I mean, that's 63, but yeah,

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man, I ain't going to take it
away, you know?

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What I mean, what's your
wingspan 879?

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I wish I knew I like they test
yourself with that, but it ain't

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something I really.
You pay, you know I like that.

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I like that.
Don't pay attention to that,

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right?
Like, who cares if I don't go

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out there and dominate and kick
somebody's ass in front of me?

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None of that special bullshit,
man.

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No, I love it man.
That's why it's even like the

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combine.
I'm like, look, just run the

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tape.
Like, yeah, I mean, they don't

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like it.
Don't matter if I could run like

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a four, three, you know what I
mean?

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Who knows?
But it don't matter if I could

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jump 11 yards.
It matters about OK, are you

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willing to run through a
motherfucker face?

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I mean somebody's face like.
You, you, you are OK.

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I just want to say this right
quick, Curtis.

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I just want to chat.
James is the kind of person that

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will make people quit football.
Real quick.

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Oh.
No, to play football, we'll talk

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about you play against somebody
like that.

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I didn't seen it like people
like that.

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You talking about playing,
talking about going on kickoff

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and running through two people.
Do you understand how crazy you

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got to be to want to be on
kickoff and run through somebody

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that is like a car crash?
That's a car crash, man.

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Oh, yeah.
I'd have been in the wedges,

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man.
I'd have been talking about

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playing tight end, being in a
wedge, and you got to look at

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somebody running at you 21 miles
an hour and 19 miles an hour,

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and you got to take that on now.
I'm good.

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We actually go.
Let me go play the game.

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We called ourselves the Crash
Out crew.

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We was all on kick off.
I'm talking about you got 5-6

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guys screaming as they're
running down the field looking

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for some blood.
Like we just, we don't care.

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We want to see who's the biggest
crash out of the six of us.

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That's why that's my dogs.
Man, that's that's football

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though man, that's it's so
refreshing to just see I know

449
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,400
you I'm not calling you a kid,
just a young man like yourself.

450
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,840
It's got a bright future.
It's so refreshing to see like

451
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:16,920
you love the game.
You know what I'm saying?

452
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,520
And you keep that with you, bro.
Like the, the, the Sky's the

453
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:21,960
limit.
You can go wherever you want to

454
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:22,920
go.
You know what I'm saying?

455
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,800
Playing after playing coaching,
just doing whatever you want to

456
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:28,200
do.
Because you can tell just

457
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,200
talking to you for it's 23
minutes that we've been talking

458
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,120
to you that you love the game of
football and that's why you're

459
00:23:34,120 --> 00:23:36,720
so scared at it.
So keep going.

460
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,640
Keep going.
What we got next, Sheldon?

461
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,520
You got one for him?
Yeah, let's talk a little bit

462
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,760
more about coach seekers.
Obviously we're in the outside,

463
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,600
so we don't really know, you
know, his personality as well

464
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,360
because he seems very, you know,
serious And I know he's very

465
00:23:50,360 --> 00:23:52,200
analytical and and process
oriented.

466
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,360
But does does Coach Stevkis
ever, you know, say something

467
00:23:55,360 --> 00:23:57,560
that makes you laugh or joke
around or are there any other

468
00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,240
defense coaches that kind of
keep it light hearted in the

469
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,560
room?
Cheetah, he keeps it light

470
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,600
hearted without a doubt.
He can make it some funny jokes,

471
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:08,440
but like like Coach Stevens,
like he'll like throw a spring

472
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,880
ball, he'll go around.
We have like 5 minutes to shoot

473
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,000
the shit.
He'll be like, all right,

474
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:16,000
anybody got a joke?
I'll raise my hand because I'm

475
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,400
the only one with a joke.
Yeah, I mean, I'll.

476
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,520
Be like like he's like.
I need y'all to entertain.

477
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,480
Tell me a joke.
Right now.

478
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:26,480
I need.
I need a.

479
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,920
Funny joke right now, but it's
like.

480
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,520
It's OK.
Can I say it on the podcast?

481
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,280
Yeah, this is this is our rated
man.

482
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,240
Let's this is our.
Here, an adult podcast.

483
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,120
Everybody knows that.
So damn, boom, there's this MOB

484
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:41,960
player that just won the
lottery, right?

485
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,800
Great guy, you know, I mean,
amazing dude, Christian, all

486
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,320
that, man, man, man of God.
So then boom, he goes up to the

487
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:49,880
umpire.
He's like, yeah, man, like I

488
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:51,760
just won the lottery.
But, you know, I make all this

489
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,440
money from the MLBI decided to
be best for me to give it away.

490
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,840
So he's like, oh, the empire's
like, oh, that's great of you,

491
00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:58,800
man.
Like, I'm really proud of you.

492
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:00,720
That's something great.
He's like, yeah.

493
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,720
So the other night I decided to
give it all away to charity.

494
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,640
And he's like, really to
charity.

495
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:06,840
Oh, wow.
What charity?

496
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,480
He's like, yeah, but Charity
wasn't there.

497
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,000
So I asked Star and I gave it
all to her.

498
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:16,720
Yeah.
So like.

499
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:20,400
I said it in the room and it
just went over half the people's

500
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:21,600
head.
Except, like, I ain't the woo.

501
00:25:25,360 --> 00:25:28,320
Because don't get wrong like we
we still a young team, you know

502
00:25:28,360 --> 00:25:29,240
what I mean?
Yeah, I was just.

503
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,080
So you got some people that just
came out of high school in that

504
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:32,480
room which they didn't know.
No.

505
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:36,720
What are you talking about?
Crystal Star, who are they?

506
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,000
But yes, one of the little jokes
I'll be having.

507
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:46,040
That's a good one.
Man, I'm glad we got to hear the

508
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,120
joke.
Like I, I, I, it's always funny

509
00:25:49,120 --> 00:25:51,800
to me, like seeing like how
different personalities interact

510
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,760
in the locker room.
And I feel like, you know,

511
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:57,000
everything I'm hearing is like,
I feel like we got, we got a

512
00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:01,000
good kind of blend of, of, of
different guys in that, in that

513
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,800
locker room And, and, and now on
the, on the coaching staff as

514
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,680
well.
Like you got, you got JC Price.

515
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,160
Let's talk about JCA little bit,
because I know, I know you've

516
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,280
had, you know, some time with
him.

517
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,520
When I say that name, what's
that mean to you?

518
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:18,240
It's time to work his business,
JC prices business.

519
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:22,080
Like he, he's the, he's a
Virginia Tech defensive line,

520
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,680
you know what I mean?
Model like he done, he done been

521
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:25,800
there.
He done done that.

522
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,280
He had his time.
Now he's like, look, I'm here to

523
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,000
coach y'all.
It's y'all's time now.

524
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:31,600
I hadn't been there, I'd have
done that.

525
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,320
Now it's fine Time for y'all to
do it and and do it kind of

526
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,080
thing.
But yeah, he's a, he's a great

527
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,480
coach.
And the one thing I love about

528
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:42,880
him the most is that you don't
sugarcoat shit like he today he

529
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,280
told everybody he like, look,
there ain't no starters all

530
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:47,600
y'all have to work for your
spot.

531
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:52,200
So like right now I don't know
if I'm a starter, but every

532
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,480
single day during camp I'm going
to work my ass off to become

533
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,720
one.
It's solidify that spot because

534
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,560
we got in and we got some great
transfers.

535
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:02,520
Like every Divas alignment that
we brought in can start and

536
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,200
probably and definitely will
start.

537
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:10,400
Like you got Manny, you got Cody
Allies, like we got so many new

538
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,160
transfers that like to me, I'm
just like, hey coach, you did

539
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,320
your thing.
Like you, a coach that goes in

540
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:16,880
the port and you get the best
out of the best.

541
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:19,680
And he went double gingers on
the edges.

542
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:24,880
Oh yeah, me and they you gang
like oh, I can't wait for that.

543
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:32,320
We already celebrations.
Oh man, sack celebration with

544
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:33,960
two gingers.
Can't wait to y'all meet at a

545
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,360
quarterback and it when this
happens.

546
00:27:36,360 --> 00:27:41,480
It's not if, it's when it's.
Got to move my phone, got more

547
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,480
sand.
If it died, my fault y'all.

548
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,920
It's a bit more prepared.
All good, man.

549
00:27:47,360 --> 00:27:49,120
Dude, you, you, you.
A day before camp.

550
00:27:49,120 --> 00:27:51,040
It's amazing you're on here with
us right now.

551
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:52,040
That's right.
That's right.

552
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,920
So, but that is that is JC.
We've had a chance to talk to

553
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,600
JCA couple times.
I mean, if y'all for those out

554
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,040
there, maybe new listeners or
whatnot, we interviewed JC last

555
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:09,600
all season and he was right man
JC don't sugarcoat shit.

556
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,160
He was in.
I mean that interview we had

557
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,720
with him was crazy.
So we're going to let James get

558
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,720
sorted out here for a couple
seconds.

559
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:19,920
But.
I wasn't something going around

560
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,600
social media that said all
genders are black.

561
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,800
What?
Yeah, that was on that's that's

562
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:31,560
been going around social media
that gingers are black people.

563
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,200
All genders.
Are black people.

564
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,320
I'm just telling you man, that's
what I've been hearing on

565
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,520
Facebook.
So your problem.

566
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,200
Is being on Facebook.
Ben Bell Ben Bell is Black Ben.

567
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,720
Bell is black.
Ben Bell is black.

568
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,600
Sheldon, you need to go look
that up, man.

569
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,720
That's real.
I think you got red hair too,

570
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,480
Sheldon.
You got some.

571
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,680
You got some red hair somewhere.
Look like it.

572
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:58,480
I don't know.
I'm.

573
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,840
I'm pulling this up here.
We're going to get him back in

574
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:01,960
just a moment here all.
Right.

575
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,480
Curtis is efforting this via
Google.

576
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,440
Now I'm going to Twitter.
Twitter's truthful, right?

577
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,200
Twitter's don't ever lie about
anything.

578
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:11,600
It ain't even called Twitter no
more.

579
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,280
Sheldon going to get on you
about that.

580
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:17,320
It's called X.
I'm never calling it X.

581
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:18,720
I'm never calling.
I'm never.

582
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,040
Calling it X.
I'm seeing some.

583
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,120
I'm seeing some tik toks on
here.

584
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,840
I'm telling you, man, that's
what they've been saying for

585
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,760
like the last month.
I don't know why they came up

586
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,400
with it, but it's out there.
I.

587
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,320
Mean you say anything.
I mean it is a trend on TikTok.

588
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,480
See.
Y'all thought I was?

589
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,680
She thought I was crazy because
I'm an old man on Facebook.

590
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,560
According to the Internet.
According to the Internet, oh

591
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,560
man.
Hey, why are we?

592
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,880
Why are we waiting?
I know we're getting back in.

593
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,920
Can we put this picture up?
Can we put the picture up right

594
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:50,840
quick?
Picture up right now.

595
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,000
Let me picture Brian while we're
waiting.

596
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,480
Man, look at this.
Look.

597
00:29:55,520 --> 00:30:00,120
At this picture, man, I need
that people to understand what's

598
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,160
going on.
I know that's kind of cropped so

599
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:07,480
you can't see it.
That is 1 human being picking

600
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:12,800
another human being up and
suplexing it and smiling.

601
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,560
Oh yeah, yeah, it's our favorite
photo.

602
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,440
Oh, there you go, he's back.
He's back, right?

603
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,760
You were getting into.
It I was I was telling, I was

604
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,600
telling the chat if they didn't
understand what was going on,

605
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,560
but that's a human being picking
up another human being and

606
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:31,560
suflexing it and y'all and while
doing it Well, what I mean is

607
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,520
this how you feel when you
playing football?

608
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,080
Is this the this the energy you
have while pulling?

609
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:40,080
Every every single play, because
in that moment I'm like, Oh,

610
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:45,640
y'all finna slam his ass like Oh
be the best feeling.

611
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,640
That's why like that.
And when I'm what's called when

612
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,400
it's face to face and I scoop
them under the legs, I slam on

613
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:53,680
their back.
Those are my two favorite

614
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,680
tackles because it's the most
like damn, I just got bitch type

615
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,680
of tackle like like damn, he
really just did that to me.

616
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,480
Like it's, it's demeaning as a
man and I love that shit.

617
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,880
Like.
And and The thing is, this type

618
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,680
tackle, there's video.
You've done this multiple times,

619
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,480
man.
And, and, and, and I'm like, I'm

620
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,960
sure it's the pleasure going
through your head when you know

621
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,200
I got you.
You ain't going anywhere.

622
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,760
You have to fucking feel it.
And you know, their point of

623
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,160
view is, is helplessness.
It's just like whenever he

624
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,880
decides to let me go, it going
to hurt.

625
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,440
I'm hoping I can hold on to the
ball.

626
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,720
The best part is when it's like
a running back and they think

627
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,200
they got got you going downhill
and all of a sudden you stop

628
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,040
that momentum and then pull them
back and then just go over the

629
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:37,640
top with it.
Just blah.

630
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:44,320
Now I'm going to ask, I think
this is an obvious question.

631
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,280
I am assuming when you slam
somebody's asses down, they hear

632
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,880
about it, they know about it.
Oh yeah, I talk that shit

633
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,560
without a doubt.
Got to like what?

634
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:56,840
You going to feel me and you
going to hear me?

635
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,720
You got to let them know.
Play like.

636
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,800
You got to let them know.
Because like if you, a

637
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,480
linebacker, like your team
around you feed off your energy.

638
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:08,000
It's like being a quarterback,
you know, I mean, like what you

639
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,840
do affects the team around you.
So if you have a great ass hit,

640
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,120
oh shit that was going to be
like Oh yeah, bet that they soft

641
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:13,960
as fuck.
Let's get it.

642
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,640
Like it's just that's who I was.
I was the tone setter on my

643
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,760
team.
I was the man.

644
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,560
They ain't shit bro, let's go.
You got to break their will a

645
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:23,880
little bit.
You got, you got to let them

646
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,840
know that it's it's not going to
happen.

647
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,560
You got to break their will and
let them know that it's not

648
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,360
their day-to-day.
It's not going to be their

649
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,640
day-to-day.
Now, I know it's probably nobody

650
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:40,000
else in the world like UJ, but
being in on a football team and

651
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,040
you've been here for a little
bit now, have you found somebody

652
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,560
kind of in that Bash Brother
role that you kind of feed off

653
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,560
of on your defense yet?
Oh yeah?

654
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:48,640
Hell yeah.
Burgos.

655
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:54,560
What?
Keyshawn burgos #2 like that

656
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,880
dude is a crash out.
The definition of the word.

657
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,800
I love him though, like he's
somebody that you know that no

658
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,120
matter what shit.
We in the alley, we at the bar,

659
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,560
he got my back.
We on the field on kickoff.

660
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:08,840
Oh yeah, I already know.
I ain't worried.

661
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:10,920
But he he going to make that
play if I don't.

662
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,240
That's what's up, That's what
you got to have, man.

663
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,880
That's what's the difference in
having a Oh yeah, that.

664
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:22,680
Eight wins, Caleb wins #20 yeah.
That's that's Tally's boy,

665
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:24,760
that's.
He be crashing out.

666
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:26,600
I love, I love watching the
play.

667
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,800
Man, we're so excited to see
y'all just you know, get started

668
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,400
to doing what y'all love to do.
Man.

669
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:37,720
It's like I said, us as fans, we
we sitting back rooting for you

670
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:41,040
at the games, rooting for you,
but for you to come on first of

671
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,920
all, we appreciate you, but also
just with the energy, man, you

672
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,600
could tell that this is no
fabrication.

673
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,160
You know what I'm saying?
No extra nothing.

674
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,720
I know you eating some wings and
that probably make you feel

675
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,280
good, but I can tell you wake up
like this and to see somebody

676
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:59,280
playing, like I said, seeing
somebody playing that just have

677
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,240
that kind of enthusiasm.
It's like infectious.

678
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,200
My old ass feel like going
playing.

679
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,960
Let me put my helmet on.
Shoot, let me get out here.

680
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,520
I know the guy 37.
I see you have the helmet.

681
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,320
I might need to go out here to
37 U. 37 U.

682
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,920
You got eligibility left right?
When there's a well, there's a

683
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:23,040
way, you can only dig it to the
lead.

684
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,440
I got to get to work.
I got to get to work on Mondays.

685
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,120
I ain't going to go out there
and get beat up for them.

686
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,159
Boy, you'll be looking like Mark
Wahlberg and invisible.

687
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,440
Exactly.
So let's throw this out here

688
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,400
real quick as we get to wrapping
it up.

689
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,719
When everything starts tomorrow,
what's the one thing you're most

690
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,159
excited about?
Say it again, my father didn't

691
00:34:43,159 --> 00:34:44,520
hear.
You when, when you guys get to

692
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:48,920
start tomorrow, whatever it is,
coaches, skiing, being with your

693
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,520
boys out there, hitting
somebody, oh, what's that one

694
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,120
thing you get the most excited?
About for tomorrow.

695
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,320
Oh, I mean inside run hands down
like we got inside run the third

696
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,120
day.
What as I'm waiting for that

697
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,720
like right now, it's just not
saying it's not exciting like,

698
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,720
but we're in spiders and I'm a
defensive lineman.

699
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:10,160
So it's like it's a lot of you
know what I mean?

700
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,360
Like like hand fighting, slap
boxing and shit.

701
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,320
But when some shorter pads come
on, Oh yeah, it gets real in the

702
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:16,920
trenches.
You're ready to hit, hit.

703
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,200
Because at that point it's like
shit, I got my pads on, you got

704
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:21,680
your pads on.
Ain't no brother-in-law shit.

705
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:22,800
Let's go.
You know what?

706
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,360
I.
Mean brother-in-law shit that

707
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,880
might be the line of the year.
brother-in-law shit everybody.

708
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:33,480
What?
OK so wait a SEC.

709
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,640
Wednesday is day three Saturday
or is day three Sunday.

710
00:35:37,240 --> 00:35:39,320
Oh, that's a great question.
I live life day by day.

711
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,200
I don't know, I say I hope it's
Saturday.

712
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:43,360
The.
Sooner it happens when it

713
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:44,760
happens.
Exactly.

714
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,760
Now Jay, I know I you you was
talking about the defensive

715
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,080
players that they brought in.
They did a pretty good job on

716
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:53,760
the offensive side of the ball
as well.

717
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,480
Have you have any other new
running backs or offensive

718
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:01,400
players been sizing you up?
Oh yeah, that boy Bully, Hell

719
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,200
yeah from Bowling Green.
He's like, oh, he was in the Mac

720
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:05,360
too.
I was like, hell yeah.

721
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:09,400
Like Lucky we didn't play your
ass, Lucky we didn't play your

722
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:13,120
short ass.
But but like, I love Bully.

723
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,480
Like he's somebody that he's
going to get after it.

724
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:19,480
He's a running back.
Like Buddy got that chip on his

725
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:20,880
shoulder.
He ready to run through anybody

726
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,640
and I cannot wait to see him.
He kind of reminds me of running

727
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,280
back from Arizona State, my boy
Scataboo.

728
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,800
Like he got, he got that dog in
him.

729
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,760
I'm excited to see him play,
without a doubt.

730
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,200
Definitely.
What about on the offensive

731
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:35,440
line?
There's a bunch of new faces

732
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,120
kind of pulling through from our
perspective.

733
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,160
What's it been like?
I know you had a little bit of

734
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:41,560
experience with that in the
spring.

735
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,680
What's that been like so far?
What do you like about those

736
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:45,080
guys?
Oh.

737
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,960
Not excited we have.
This is the most athletic

738
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:49,640
offensive line group I've ever
been a part of.

739
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:55,000
Hands down, like we got my boy
Lathe Gannon, my roommate who's

740
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,160
a freaking he'd be working his
ass off and on the field, you

741
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:02,200
see that shit show like Johnny
number 79, he's a dog, like

742
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,080
probably one of the most
flexible offensive lineman I've

743
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,520
ever seen in my life and he's
athletic as hell.

744
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,840
And then you got Tom Moose or
Tomas.

745
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,120
I'd be saying his name wrong,
but Buddy's a.

746
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:12,840
Freaking and he can.
Move.

747
00:37:14,720 --> 00:37:17,960
But yeah, it's we got some dogs
in the offensive line like

748
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:19,240
Kyron.
He going to feel safe in that

749
00:37:19,240 --> 00:37:21,600
pocket this year.
That's what we need.

750
00:37:21,720 --> 00:37:25,040
Best music to our ears?
Music big time to our ears, man.

751
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,600
Music big time die ears.
All right, before we get one

752
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,560
last question, anybody you want
to shout out anything you need

753
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:35,960
to shout out?
Say hey, shout out my mom, my

754
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:37,840
Dukes, you know I love you.
Can't wait to see you first

755
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,200
game.
Shout out my boy coach Nana RDF.

756
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,840
You already know best trainer in
the in the whole world and shit.

757
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,400
Shout out hokey nation.
I'm gonna need y'all to show out

758
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,240
every single every single home
game this year.

759
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,680
Yeah, I mean, come out.
Let me see your hokey pride.

760
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,160
Yes Sir.
There we go.

761
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,760
I love you man all.
Right, Brian, the the

762
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,920
traditional all.
Right, We will close it out.

763
00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:04,600
I mean you've been here what 4-5
months at this point, maybe

764
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,320
almost six months.
I guess at this point you got to

765
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,200
go to food spot.
I know you got the wings there

766
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,280
that you that you pulling in
after practice, but what's the

767
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,960
go to spot for you so far?
It's it's been the same spot

768
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,120
wherever I go, Chipotle, there
we go.

769
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,840
Ain't ain't never going to
change like you you can, you

770
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,120
can't beat Chipotle's pricing
anywhere like and especially the

771
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:25,680
way I've been doing it.
Like I used to have some fat

772
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,160
friends back in high school put
me on game.

773
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,680
They're in there.
They're like, hey, could they be

774
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,400
kind of keep you all through
that one little small scoop of

775
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:33,680
meat and all that?
I'm like, Nah, can I get a

776
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,600
little bit more, but not extra.
I appreciate you though.

777
00:38:36,720 --> 00:38:38,800
Because they kind of charge a.
Little bit more, but not extra

778
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,360
is.
I charge you extra like $4.00.

779
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,120
I'm like Nah get out of here
y'all tripping.

780
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,200
I get a little bit more but not
extra.

781
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,120
He said don't give me the fat
tags, give me just a little bit

782
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:48,600
more.
I was like, that's automatic,

783
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,160
but it's a little bit more just
like, you know, I mean, half a

784
00:38:50,240 --> 00:38:51,640
scoop and they're coming out of
your paycheck.

785
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,200
But yeah, that's why like
Chipotle hands on.

786
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,600
That's my spot.
But hey, if there's a there's

787
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,640
some spot in Blacksburg, that's
you know what I mean?

788
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,400
Want to throw an NIL deal for
some food?

789
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:07,360
I'm I'm all for it.
I, I 100% bet that really soon

790
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,360
somebody's going to be throwing
you some NIL stuff around

791
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:14,080
Blacksburg once they start
seeing you first of all play,

792
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,640
but also energy that you bring.
So just keep being you, man.

793
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:24,040
Keep being you, brother.
Hell yeah.

794
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,560
Yes, Sir.
Curtis, you got anything else?

795
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,480
I think you're on mute bud.
He's muted.

796
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:34,880
I would say he was muted.
I'm muted this.

797
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,280
Last for the last 40 minutes, I
mean, and even beforehand,

798
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,760
y'all, y'all didn't get to go
through the backstage shift that

799
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,400
we were talking about with James
here.

800
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,920
But listen man, good luck to you
this year.

801
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,840
The energy you brought tonight.
If if you if that resonates with

802
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,000
this whole team this year, it's
going to be a special season.

803
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,600
Thank you for sharing your story
because I think there's a lot of

804
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,840
people out there and it doesn't
matter football or life.

805
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:03,680
Your story from Springfield, VA
to a private school Independence

806
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,320
to Arizona State to Eastern
Michigan and finally landing

807
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,640
back at home for that final
season.

808
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,360
You're getting the accolades
like Sheldon said early in the

809
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,240
program, you got recognized last
year as being one of the best

810
00:40:15,240 --> 00:40:16,920
top rated linebackers in the
country.

811
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:21,200
It's awesome to have you here.
It's awesome to see you play and

812
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,240
man, I, I, I.
I can't wait for Labor Day

813
00:40:24,240 --> 00:40:26,200
weekend.
I can't wait to see you the

814
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:30,240
first time coming out of the
tunnel with 66,000.

815
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,720
Hopefully, maybe one of us can
make it up for that game.

816
00:40:33,720 --> 00:40:34,840
We're going to try our best,
but.

817
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,000
You got to what?
Most death.

818
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:41,640
Well man James we were
mentioning we married Tally

819
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,000
buying a house, he got two kids
he putting a girl through

820
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:45,680
college.
I got 3 kids.

821
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,480
Sheldon Sheldon's job is a
weekend type job.

822
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,520
But we, we will.
We are going to try to make

823
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,080
everything in our.
Time pack them in the minivan

824
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,240
I'm gonna get y'all some tickets
and then show up let's get.

825
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:57,480
It.
There you go.

826
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,080
There you go.
Yeah.

827
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,400
Well, James, we appreciate you
joining us tonight and y'all

828
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,080
that's going to wrap up this
episode of the Boundary Corner

829
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:09,320
Podcast brought to you by Main
Street Pharmacy.

830
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,520
I'm Curtis Wilson.
Brian Siegler.

831
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,640
Joe Vitelli.
And I'm Sean Moss.

832
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,560
Along with the Junk Man because
I my boy Robbie just texted me

833
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:22,480
and said he's got to make the
junk Man work along with Joanne

834
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,160
James, Jacquem the The Ginger
Free Kid and you don't.

835
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:26,720
Know why they call me the Junk
Man?

836
00:41:27,240 --> 00:41:29,840
Go ahead.
Because I take out the trash.

837
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:34,160
There we go.
Visit our website,

838
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,720
boundarycornerbt.com to listen
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839
00:41:37,720 --> 00:41:39,960
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840
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,800
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841
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,720
As always, the music you heard
at the beginning of the program

842
00:41:46,720 --> 00:41:49,120
was our buddy Jason Long, who's
down in Roanoke.

843
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,520
He plays us in, he plays us out
every week.

844
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:55,040
Check out Jason Long music.com
where we'll link you to all of

845
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,080
his music, Apple, Spotify and
his YouTube account, Facebook

846
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,040
pages.
Also on his website, we'll show

847
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:02,360
you where he's playing live
music.

848
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,640
I forgot to bring that up
tonight and I'm sure he's

849
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,720
playing somewhere at local this
weekend.

850
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,640
We appreciate James, you showing
up tonight giving us some fun

851
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,720
times.
I'll take one more look at that

852
00:42:12,720 --> 00:42:14,360
smiling face before we get out
of here.

853
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,880
There we go.
That is pretty.

854
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,520
Funny, there we go, there it is
right there.

855
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,440
We appreciate y'all in the chat
and we appreciate you all for

856
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,000
listening.
And as always, let's go.

857
00:42:25,360 --> 00:43:36,320
Hokies, Hokies.
Music.