Da Ginger Freak

1:21 The. You are muted, Curtis. Tell me that we go live y'all, for free. Welcome back to the Boundary Corner podcast along with my partner Brian Siegler, Shelton Moss and.

2:02 What a start. What a start. Man, we dailing this one. I practiced 2 months on the pronunciations tonight guys and it screwed me all up. This episode is always just brought to you by Doctor Jeremy Counts down at the Counts Family Pharmacy, your friendly neighborhood pharmacy Three O 1 S Main St. in Blacksburg. I was about to say Shelton Talley and Jonathan Moss. Adam screwed up everything at the beginning of this house. That's a good name. Amen. Jonathan Moss kind of hits that sounds like a wide receiver if I ever heard. You go Sheldon Moss. There you go. Sheldon Moss does sound like a wide receiver. Sheldon Tally sounds like a lineman. How's everybody doing tonight?

2:45 Long time fellas. I think we're doing all right. I mean, we're hanging in there. Everybody should be good, man. You're about to start sensing football. We got football on TV next week. We do tomorrow. Tomorrow. Oh, it is tomorrow. Game is tomorrow. Tomorrow. Tally in the process of buying a house. Sheldon about to get started with some volleyball in a few weeks here. A lot of fun shit kids about to get back to school. Thank the Lord. Hey, and we're about, we're about starting right now until sometime in December, you're going to see us every week. Every week, every week we're going to be here and it's pretty awesome. Tonight we do have a very special guest. We're going to go ahead and bring him in. Defensive lineman, 4 year Virginia Tech cokies. Let's see if I got this right.

3:33 James Jankum, bring him in. The Ginger Freak. In the flesh, baby Pronounce. It. Right, though, James Jankum, sometimes even I messed it up. I'm saying dejunko. Which, hey, whichever way you want to say. Just as long as you say, yeah, I mean, James, like the junk man like. The junk. Man, I like the. Like that I. Like, I know I've been going off in the game with him. I'm just go ahead and say. That that's right. I know with the official pronunciation you got you got your name, but she also got James thrown in. Ginger. Oh yeah, without a doubt. That's that's my second name. All right, all right. There we go. How you doing this evening, man? You sitting there? It looked like you were grubbing on some sushi.

4:13 Was that sushi? Yesterday. Oh no, we actually see this is This is why I love Virginia tank. They got us with some nice boneless chicken wings right here there we go We got given the 24 pack like like you only get fed like this at P4 schools. I mean, I don't know. Man, hey, so so we're on the the. Like. Eve of camp right now, like everything. Everything's about to get going all right. Are you going to be able to sleep after this? I won't, but just knowing that tomorrow we start camp and we're 30 days away from the first game, I cannot wait. I really can't. But I'm just more focused on getting better every single day through camp because there's still a lot of stuff I got to learn to get better at.

4:58 So I'm really just, I'm excited for that process and that grind. Has it always been? Has it always been like that for you? Like the day before, can't weather high school or college like just wired. Like I like I'll be going, I'll be going to sleep watching Ray Lewis or James Harrison's Football for Life. And just like getting so pumped up and just like I can't wait to do that. I can't wait to have my own football for like documentary or my own my own 30 for 30. But it's just, it's really just the excitement of it's football 24/7. Yeah. I mean, that's the part that I love the most because I love this game. Like I, I never get burnt out, never get tired. Like it's nice having everybody on the team kind of like we're all in the same cup of time now.

5:40 So it's it's late. Jay, can you remember them as your teammates please? Do not hurt nobody on that offense. We we meet everybody that's on the six. Hey, I'm saying that's all I can say. If I get hurt, I get hurt. They get hurt, they get hurt. But we don't go out during practice, that's for sure. Hey, that's football right there, man. Hey, you got you got to love that mentality, though. But I know you, this is your first, this is your first camp at Virginia Tech. I know you've been through some through some fall camp so far, though. So when you're going through that camp, is there a certain time where your body just kind of gets used to the to the banging around and the hitting after you've been through camp? It's about halfway through Week 2 because you know, I mean that first week is just helmets and shells. I mean really just helmets for the first two days. Then the third day we finally get shoulder pads, we get to hit him and then we don't really get a hit till like I guess we don't get to go live from my past experience, like the second week.

6:39 So it's really like after that second week, after that live practice, like 2 days after that live practice when it's like, all right, we went live. We've been go live for a damn near 2O2 days. Do you still have that same intensity? I always got it. That chip on my shoulder never, never falls off. That's. What's up? Yeah. So James, let's let's talk a little bit about your journey for people who may not know you as well. Just start out you're, you're a Virginia kid from Springfield. You, you hit up Independence Community College out in Kansas to get your start. And then you transfer to Arizona State where he spent a couple years, got some decent playing time over there. And then you go to Eastern Michigan where, for those who don't know, he was not only the highest graded linebacker or highest grade defensive player on the Eastern Michigan squad last year, but the 19th highest graded linebacker in the country. Even though you've played a little bit a defensive line as well.

7:25 We'll talk about that in a little bit because you're obviously a very versatile player. But all these different schools, different places. Tell us about your journey and what do you think you've learned about yourself along the way? I mean, one thing I learned by myself is that I'm resilient. Like there's nothing that can that can be in front of me that can stop me because I don't had some injuries that people would have just packed it in and say, you know what, I'm just going to go work a nine to five. And I've had situations where it's like, Dang, I don't think I can make it out of this. Like even before I went to Independence Community College, I went to the school, I went to a private school my senior year, what called Avalon. And that was an hour and 45 minute metro ride there and back. And not to mention even after games, nobody lived in my area. So I had to take the metro home after games. You know, I mean, hurt, bruised ankle, messed up turf toe walking on the metro, my shoulder pads in gear just to go home.

8:21 So it's like it was that was that situation that really showed me that like if I went through that, I can go through anything like injury on the way is not going to stop me from getting to the league and becoming a Hall of Famer. So it was really that it was that that semester that really taught me like anything that I face I can overcome. Like I didn't, I didn't started that little the legit bottom and crawled my way up to get to get to where I'm at right now. Yeah, I know we talked about this a little off offline, but like stuff like that, like that part of your journey that that that shows and and you learn real quick how much you love football or whether you don't love football, right? Like if you're when you're going through that type of thing, you learn very quickly. I love this game enough to to to give it the blood and give it the time and give it all that effort. Yeah, that's facts.

9:08 And that's without a doubt I do because I've seen so many people from my high schools to especially junior college where it's like you see so many talented people who just don't have the, the correct mindset or the necessary mindset, you know what I mean? And it's just like, it's, it's that mindset of, oh, I'm already good enough when you're really not him yet, you know what I mean? And that's why that's something I've never had. Like I've always felt like when I went to JUCO, I knew this, I noticed that because it was during 2020 COVID and all that. We're having Zoom meetings and I'm looking at Zoom meeting. I see one kid is committed to Auburn and then another kid who's Kentucky bounced back and I'm fighting for a spot to try to get between either that mic or that will spot to try to get in. So it's like even before I went to junior college, I was already like, I got to become a different animal, you know what I mean?

9:57 For me to even see the field or me to even be a 2 like these people are power 5 level players that I have to become to even compete with them and beat them out of a spot. So it was like even before I went JUCO I was in my backyard grinding, lifting weights, going to the field behind my house and running my ass off like it was. It's so much dedication that I put into this game that I I can't wait for it to auto confirmation this season. Man, that that's, that's unbelievable because you talk about your journey, you talk about injuries and you talk about going JUCO, you talk about you went to Arizona State. And correct me if I'm wrong, that's when Herm was coached. You got recruited by his staff back in 2020. Yeah, I got recruited by Marvin Lewis and also originally they recruited me for a linebacker.

10:48 Linebacker. Yep. And then midway through the season, after unfortunately Herm got fired, Coach Oguano was like, I mean, we we had a conversation. I didn't know if I was going to red shirt or not. And we decided it's best that we have some injuries at defensive end or edge and we're like, look, we could really use you at that spot. You'll get a lot more playing time. And I was like, look, you know what, if I can, if it's best for the team, let's do it. So I got about 7 or 8 games at defensive end my first year at Arizona State. And there's the play. We're going to show a picture in a little while. There's a play you made against Cal. I wish Brian could have snipped it. It was in your Eastern mission commitment, I guess the signing day for Eastern Michigan where you you laid somebody else. But I I can't take that away from Tally. I guess the other thing I want to ask before I jump to my next question is, oh, oh, no.

11:40 Did we lose you? Oh, shit. We were rolling you there, man, James. On in a minute. What happened? He's back. Andy's back, Andy's off. Andy's back. Can you hear us? Yeah, let me turn. Let me turn my phone off. Do not disturb. All right. My fault, guys. You're. Blowing up. You're blowing up. Hey, you know what? Somebody said we see you on TV right now. Like hey, shout me out. We anybody you want to shout or anything you need to shout out, we'll we'll give you a piece here as we wrap it up. But here's my thing, you have went so you had your you coaching staff, you had the Herm coaching staff, the Dillingham coaching staff. When you you have been through a bunch of coaches and you know, obviously we've got ours now, but I want to talk about our guys in just a second.

12:34 But who have those guys made like an impression on you? Like who like Marvin Lewis coached in the NFL for years. Herm coached like Marvin Lewis was since named for like a decade. Like any of those that they instill or do something new as part of that journey that really has stuck with you. The one thing that Marvel Lewis did, he gave me confidence that I did not have like I like. And it's not I'm a cocky guy when I'm on the field because my preparation, that gives me confidence. But my first. They hit him up again. Hit. Him up again. We are live people. That's what happened when you are live. Yeah, I don't know why they keep calling me man, but what he said it was, I think like a couple weeks after fall camp, he was like, look, man, I'm I'm proud of you. Like you're everything that we thought you was going to be. And the one thing I would say is that, son, once you once you learn how to use your hands and really defeat these blocks and all that, there's no doubt in my mind that you could be a draft pick one day.

13:42 And like, he probably didn't understand how impactful that was. Like for me to hear that, but it seems like I'm like Marvin freaking Lewis just said I could be a draft pick one day if I just learn how to use my hands. So from that, moving on, I'm watching. Yeah. I mean, Des Walker pass rush videos, all that trying to get right. And it, it, it helped me because now I have like, I was that linebacker and I was still able to play the edge because I still had that mentality of like having that good hands and all that good footwork. So it was really like Marvin Lewis gave me that confidence to know that, look, you worked hard. I see your your hard work but you still got to improve your game to be a draft pick.

14:23 I love hearing that, man. Let's talk about your current coach. Let's talk about current defensive coordinator, Coach Cefkis. We're all kind of getting to know him. You know, he got hired about the same time you came in. You know, we've we've obviously done the backgrounds. Everybody knows time at Wofford, time in the NFL. But when y'all are in practice or maybe in a meeting room or, you know, doing something on the grease board, is there a telltale sign like whether it's you or the whole unit or somebody else where you know, you just had a really good Rep or you just impressed him? Does he do anything? Because obviously your guys are young men, like you said, that confidence. Is there anything he says or does that you know, I did it right, Coach.

15:04 Like what coach keep just reminds me of is kind of like a like a Bill Belichick type of coach. He's not going to show too much emotion. But when you do some good, she's going, Hey, Ginge, he will he will DAP you up just like keep it low key. But it's still like, oh shit, I got a sack of Kyron Jones coach coming over. You DAP me. I'm like, all right, that I did some good shit. OK, bet. But like one thing about Coach Keed is that he's a leader of men like in our locker room, like what I said earlier about iron sharpens iron I got I literally just got that from him. Like the meeting we was just and he said, look, we want to keep everybody on on this team safe. But at the end of the day, we're not going to do no brother-in-law shit when it's in between the lines. We're going to attack.

15:45 Yeah. Oh shit, let's get it. That's the sound bite right there, lady. That is the sound. Bite right there with that. Put that, put it on all the social for the rest of. The week right there. I love defense. It's like even when he was coming in with the Arizona defense, like couple guys were a little bit worried. I was, I was a little bit worried too, because I'm like, OK, I've played linebacker, I've played defensive end, you know what I mean? What do I fit in this game? You want me at linebacker? I can play inside. You want me at edge, I can play edge. You want me AD line, I can play D line. Like so we just like we had that conversation and it was like, really, we're going to use you where we feel like you could be most productive. And I I started like in spring ball. I'm not sure you guys know, but I started at outside linebacker and then they're like, look, you're a big guy. We need some depth at edge or at end. So they moved me the end and from there I just took off like from there.

16:43 It's like it was, it was less thinking than outside linebacker and especially inside linebacker and it was just like, it's really just drop your nuts and don't let the don't let the guy in front of you beat you. So. Whoop his ass everybody. So James, I mean you, I don't know no other way you can say it than the way you said it. But the question I was going to ask did you kind of answer was you've you've shown a lot of versatility just in your play from what we've seen watching film and stuff. But what like what skill in your two set makes you like so versatile? Definitely my work ethic because it's it's just something that I've never been the fastest, strongest, biggest or even smartest.

17:31 Like I've just had that grind where I'm going to rewrite the same play down until 3:00 in the morning until I get it instinctively. And then once I get it, I'm going to write it down again. Because if I know this play, like if I know this playbook like the back of my hand, then I can start playing within the playbook. Like if I know I got, let's say, if I have a stunt on the offensive tackle and I know that maybe a safety is coming to blitz. All right, bet that he's coming from death, so I can get a little bit more width, get in his face a little bit, then redirect and get in my get in my gap. So it's just it's just knowing like who's blitzing, what's happening within the play, not just, oh, I'm in this gap. I got to go to this gap. You know, I mean, it's just it's knowing the whole the defense as a whole. And that's why that's where I dominate because like I played linebacker.

18:16 I know all the coverages that's going on behind me. Like I know in cover 2 that shit, I might have some help from the safety if he's covered in the flat. So boom, if I really want to and I know that it's not 2 by two and it's 3 by 1 in the receiver's pod, I could run like a quick go route. I might have that safety for or that corner for help, so I can probably take an inside move, let the quarterback like little stuff like that, that I feel like my knowledge can help me make more plays or take take smarter risks. That's what. I'd say, yeah, it's that whole, you've been at two different levels, right? Like you haven't been at the back end, but you've been on the you've been in the linebacker room, you've been in the defensive end or defensive line in general. Don't. Say that, don't say that. One hey, it's.

18:57 Spring ask Ask Coach Martin in spring. What was it? Yeah, beginning of spring in 2022. I was with the DBS because. I was like I. Don't even know how to cover. I need my, I need my DB pedigree. There we go. First two weeks I was with the DBS, working on my back pedal, all that. Well, I had to know because like so everything I've read like early on in your career, like you were heavy a special teams. I was like, ain't no way that he played that much special teams that hadn't seen some degree of, of that coverage element and aspect of it as well. Because I mean, usually anybody that's that's, that's got that specialties pedigree that's actually getting called out for their specialties work has that versatility and that ability to, to kind of play in coverage and, and kind of understand those concepts.

19:38 I was able to, but it obviously like it's, but it was my specialty like special teams. I loved it because it's somewhere I knew I could dump, like kick off. It's probably my favorite play of the game. I'm talking to Coach Moore right now. I'm begging. I'm like, look, let me be the L5. I know I gained a little bit of weight, you know, I mean, I ain't running 21 mph right now, but hey, I'll still get down there. It's like that's fine. That's my favorite play. Like they got to block you like they can't, they can't cut you. Like you got to be a head on, head on block. And if you want to double team, you bet. I'll run through both of them like. I know I'm gonna get some contact and I and I might get to take somebody's head off so and. That's just like that's the biggest tone setter. Like even if the ball goes out of bounds, you knock them. I mean, you knock somebody on their ass. Like that shows the other team.

20:28 Oh, oh, they came to play. It's like that one play. UNC versus Appalachian. I think like like I forgot the school was called Appalachian. App state. Yeah, App State they did like a little onside kick to them. And then I just remember the USC just charged them on the on the kickoff return. I'm like, I've never seen that for a kickoff return team. But that was hard because that set the tone. But yeah, it was just like for me playing special teams, hands down creating my identity of I'm I'm selfless, like I'll do anything for the team. Like literally what my search says, it's it's team over me. And I mean, whatever I can do to contribute to the team, I'm going to get it done. Well, man, you're 64.

21:09 You got a pretty long wingspan. I think they can sneak up in there and you can get up for one this year, take away some points off the board. I mean, that's 63, but yeah, man, I ain't going to take it away, you know? What I mean, what's your wingspan 879? I wish I knew I like they test yourself with that, but it ain't something I really. You pay, you know I like that. I like that. Don't pay attention to that, right? Like, who cares if I don't go out there and dominate and kick somebody's ass in front of me? None of that special bullshit, man. No, I love it man. That's why it's even like the combine. I'm like, look, just run the tape. Like, yeah, I mean, they don't like it. Don't matter if I could run like a four, three, you know what I mean?

21:50 Who knows? But it don't matter if I could jump 11 yards. It matters about OK, are you willing to run through a motherfucker face? I mean somebody's face like. You, you, you are OK. I just want to say this right quick, Curtis. I just want to chat. James is the kind of person that will make people quit football. Real quick. Oh. No, to play football, we'll talk about you play against somebody like that. I didn't seen it like people like that. You talking about playing, talking about going on kickoff and running through two people. Do you understand how crazy you got to be to want to be on kickoff and run through somebody that is like a car crash? That's a car crash, man. Oh, yeah. I'd have been in the wedges, man. I'd have been talking about playing tight end, being in a wedge, and you got to look at somebody running at you 21 miles an hour and 19 miles an hour, and you got to take that on now. I'm good.

22:42 We actually go. Let me go play the game. We called ourselves the Crash Out crew. We was all on kick off. I'm talking about you got 5-6 guys screaming as they're running down the field looking for some blood. Like we just, we don't care. We want to see who's the biggest crash out of the six of us. That's why that's my dogs. Man, that's that's football though man, that's it's so refreshing to just see I know you I'm not calling you a kid, just a young man like yourself. It's got a bright future. It's so refreshing to see like you love the game. You know what I'm saying? And you keep that with you, bro. Like the, the, the Sky's the limit. You can go wherever you want to go. You know what I'm saying?

23:22 Playing after playing coaching, just doing whatever you want to do. Because you can tell just talking to you for it's 23 minutes that we've been talking to you that you love the game of football and that's why you're so scared at it. So keep going. Keep going. What we got next, Sheldon? You got one for him? Yeah, let's talk a little bit more about coach seekers. Obviously we're in the outside, so we don't really know, you know, his personality as well because he seems very, you know, serious And I know he's very analytical and and process oriented. But does does Coach Stevkis ever, you know, say something that makes you laugh or joke around or are there any other defense coaches that kind of keep it light hearted in the room? Cheetah, he keeps it light hearted without a doubt. He can make it some funny jokes, but like like Coach Stevens, like he'll like throw a spring ball, he'll go around. We have like 5 minutes to shoot the shit. He'll be like, all right, anybody got a joke? I'll raise my hand because I'm the only one with a joke. Yeah, I mean, I'll.

24:20 Be like like he's like. I need y'all to entertain. Tell me a joke. Right now. I need. I need a. Funny joke right now, but it's like. It's OK. Can I say it on the podcast? Yeah, this is this is our rated man. Let's this is our. Here, an adult podcast. Everybody knows that. So damn, boom, there's this MOB player that just won the lottery, right? Great guy, you know, I mean, amazing dude, Christian, all that, man, man, man of God. So then boom, he goes up to the umpire. He's like, yeah, man, like I just won the lottery. But, you know, I make all this money from the MLBI decided to be best for me to give it away. So he's like, oh, the empire's like, oh, that's great of you, man. Like, I'm really proud of you. That's something great. He's like, yeah.

25:00 So the other night I decided to give it all away to charity. And he's like, really to charity. Oh, wow. What charity? He's like, yeah, but Charity wasn't there. So I asked Star and I gave it all to her. Yeah. So like. I said it in the room and it just went over half the people's head. Except, like, I ain't the woo. Because don't get wrong like we we still a young team, you know what I mean? Yeah, I was just. So you got some people that just came out of high school in that room which they didn't know. No. What are you talking about? Crystal Star, who are they? But yes, one of the little jokes I'll be having.

25:41 That's a good one. Man, I'm glad we got to hear the joke. Like I, I, I, it's always funny to me, like seeing like how different personalities interact in the locker room. And I feel like, you know, everything I'm hearing is like, I feel like we got, we got a good kind of blend of, of, of different guys in that, in that locker room And, and, and now on the, on the coaching staff as well. Like you got, you got JC Price. Let's talk about JCA little bit, because I know, I know you've had, you know, some time with him. When I say that name, what's that mean to you? It's time to work his business, JC prices business. Like he, he's the, he's a Virginia Tech defensive line, you know what I mean? Model like he done, he done been there. He done done that.

26:26 He had his time. Now he's like, look, I'm here to coach y'all. It's y'all's time now. I hadn't been there, I'd have done that. Now it's fine Time for y'all to do it and and do it kind of thing. But yeah, he's a, he's a great coach. And the one thing I love about him the most is that you don't sugarcoat shit like he today he told everybody he like, look, there ain't no starters all y'all have to work for your spot. So like right now I don't know if I'm a starter, but every single day during camp I'm going to work my ass off to become one. It's solidify that spot because we got in and we got some great transfers. Like every Divas alignment that we brought in can start and probably and definitely will start. Like you got Manny, you got Cody Allies, like we got so many new transfers that like to me, I'm just like, hey coach, you did your thing. Like you, a coach that goes in the port and you get the best out of the best.

27:17 And he went double gingers on the edges. Oh yeah, me and they you gang like oh, I can't wait for that. We already celebrations. Oh man, sack celebration with two gingers. Can't wait to y'all meet at a quarterback and it when this happens. It's not if, it's when it's. Got to move my phone, got more sand. If it died, my fault y'all. It's a bit more prepared. All good, man. Dude, you, you, you. A day before camp. It's amazing you're on here with us right now. That's right. That's right. So, but that is that is JC. We've had a chance to talk to JCA couple times. I mean, if y'all for those out there, maybe new listeners or whatnot, we interviewed JC last all season and he was right man JC don't sugarcoat shit.

28:10 He was in. I mean that interview we had with him was crazy. So we're going to let James get sorted out here for a couple seconds. But. I wasn't something going around social media that said all genders are black. What? Yeah, that was on that's that's been going around social media that gingers are black people. All genders. Are black people. I'm just telling you man, that's what I've been hearing on Facebook. So your problem. Is being on Facebook. Ben Bell Ben Bell is Black Ben. Bell is black. Ben Bell is black. Sheldon, you need to go look that up, man. That's real. I think you got red hair too, Sheldon. You got some.

28:55 You got some red hair somewhere. Look like it. I don't know. I'm. I'm pulling this up here. We're going to get him back in just a moment here all. Right. Curtis is efforting this via Google. Now I'm going to Twitter. Twitter's truthful, right? Twitter's don't ever lie about anything. It ain't even called Twitter no more. Sheldon going to get on you about that. It's called X. I'm never calling it X. I'm never calling. I'm never. Calling it X. I'm seeing some. I'm seeing some tik toks on here. I'm telling you, man, that's what they've been saying for like the last month. I don't know why they came up with it, but it's out there. I. Mean you say anything. I mean it is a trend on TikTok. See. Y'all thought I was?

29:35 She thought I was crazy because I'm an old man on Facebook. According to the Internet. According to the Internet, oh man. Hey, why are we? Why are we waiting? I know we're getting back in. Can we put this picture up? Can we put the picture up right quick? Picture up right now. Let me picture Brian while we're waiting. Man, look at this. Look. At this picture, man, I need that people to understand what's going on. I know that's kind of cropped so you can't see it. That is 1 human being picking another human being up and suplexing it and smiling. Oh yeah, yeah, it's our favorite photo.

30:16 Oh, there you go, he's back. He's back, right? You were getting into. It I was I was telling, I was telling the chat if they didn't understand what was going on, but that's a human being picking up another human being and suflexing it and y'all and while doing it Well, what I mean is this how you feel when you playing football? Is this the this the energy you have while pulling? Every every single play, because in that moment I'm like, Oh, y'all finna slam his ass like Oh be the best feeling. That's why like that. And when I'm what's called when it's face to face and I scoop them under the legs, I slam on their back. Those are my two favorite tackles because it's the most like damn, I just got bitch type of tackle like like damn, he really just did that to me.

31:00 Like it's, it's demeaning as a man and I love that shit. Like. And and The thing is, this type tackle, there's video. You've done this multiple times, man. And, and, and, and I'm like, I'm sure it's the pleasure going through your head when you know I got you. You ain't going anywhere. You have to fucking feel it. And you know, their point of view is, is helplessness. It's just like whenever he decides to let me go, it going to hurt. I'm hoping I can hold on to the ball. The best part is when it's like a running back and they think they got got you going downhill and all of a sudden you stop that momentum and then pull them back and then just go over the top with it. Just blah. Now I'm going to ask, I think this is an obvious question.

31:44 I am assuming when you slam somebody's asses down, they hear about it, they know about it. Oh yeah, I talk that shit without a doubt. Got to like what? You going to feel me and you going to hear me? You got to let them know. Play like. You got to let them know. Because like if you, a linebacker, like your team around you feed off your energy. It's like being a quarterback, you know, I mean, like what you do affects the team around you. So if you have a great ass hit, oh shit that was going to be like Oh yeah, bet that they soft as fuck. Let's get it. Like it's just that's who I was. I was the tone setter on my team. I was the man. They ain't shit bro, let's go. You got to break their will a little bit. You got, you got to let them know that it's it's not going to happen.

32:26 You got to break their will and let them know that it's not their day-to-day. It's not going to be their day-to-day. Now, I know it's probably nobody else in the world like UJ, but being in on a football team and you've been here for a little bit now, have you found somebody kind of in that Bash Brother role that you kind of feed off of on your defense yet? Oh yeah? Hell yeah. Burgos. What? Keyshawn burgos #2 like that dude is a crash out. The definition of the word. I love him though, like he's somebody that you know that no matter what shit. We in the alley, we at the bar, he got my back. We on the field on kickoff.

33:07 Oh yeah, I already know. I ain't worried. But he he going to make that play if I don't. That's what's up, That's what you got to have, man. That's what's the difference in having a Oh yeah, that. Eight wins, Caleb wins #20 yeah. That's that's Tally's boy, that's. He be crashing out. I love, I love watching the play. Man, we're so excited to see y'all just you know, get started to doing what y'all love to do. Man. It's like I said, us as fans, we we sitting back rooting for you at the games, rooting for you, but for you to come on first of all, we appreciate you, but also just with the energy, man, you could tell that this is no fabrication. You know what I'm saying? No extra nothing.

33:49 I know you eating some wings and that probably make you feel good, but I can tell you wake up like this and to see somebody playing, like I said, seeing somebody playing that just have that kind of enthusiasm. It's like infectious. My old ass feel like going playing. Let me put my helmet on. Shoot, let me get out here. I know the guy 37. I see you have the helmet. I might need to go out here to 37 U. 37 U. You got eligibility left right? When there's a well, there's a way, you can only dig it to the lead. I got to get to work. I got to get to work on Mondays. I ain't going to go out there and get beat up for them. Boy, you'll be looking like Mark Wahlberg and invisible.

34:32 Exactly. So let's throw this out here real quick as we get to wrapping it up. When everything starts tomorrow, what's the one thing you're most excited about? Say it again, my father didn't hear. You when, when you guys get to start tomorrow, whatever it is, coaches, skiing, being with your boys out there, hitting somebody, oh, what's that one thing you get the most excited? About for tomorrow. Oh, I mean inside run hands down like we got inside run the third day. What as I'm waiting for that like right now, it's just not saying it's not exciting like, but we're in spiders and I'm a defensive lineman. So it's like it's a lot of you know what I mean? Like like hand fighting, slap boxing and shit. But when some shorter pads come on, Oh yeah, it gets real in the trenches. You're ready to hit, hit.

35:17 Because at that point it's like shit, I got my pads on, you got your pads on. Ain't no brother-in-law shit. Let's go. You know what? I. Mean brother-in-law shit that might be the line of the year. brother-in-law shit everybody. What? OK so wait a SEC. Wednesday is day three Saturday or is day three Sunday. Oh, that's a great question. I live life day by day. I don't know, I say I hope it's Saturday. The. Sooner it happens when it happens. Exactly. Now Jay, I know I you you was talking about the defensive players that they brought in. They did a pretty good job on the offensive side of the ball as well. Have you have any other new running backs or offensive players been sizing you up? Oh yeah, that boy Bully, Hell yeah from Bowling Green. He's like, oh, he was in the Mac too. I was like, hell yeah.

36:05 Like Lucky we didn't play your ass, Lucky we didn't play your short ass. But but like, I love Bully. Like he's somebody that he's going to get after it. He's a running back. Like Buddy got that chip on his shoulder. He ready to run through anybody and I cannot wait to see him. He kind of reminds me of running back from Arizona State, my boy Scataboo. Like he got, he got that dog in him. I'm excited to see him play, without a doubt. Definitely. What about on the offensive line? There's a bunch of new faces kind of pulling through from our perspective. What's it been like? I know you had a little bit of experience with that in the spring. What's that been like so far? What do you like about those guys? Oh.

36:45 Not excited we have. This is the most athletic offensive line group I've ever been a part of. Hands down, like we got my boy Lathe Gannon, my roommate who's a freaking he'd be working his ass off and on the field, you see that shit show like Johnny number 79, he's a dog, like probably one of the most flexible offensive lineman I've ever seen in my life and he's athletic as hell. And then you got Tom Moose or Tomas. I'd be saying his name wrong, but Buddy's a. Freaking and he can. Move. But yeah, it's we got some dogs in the offensive line like Kyron. He going to feel safe in that pocket this year. That's what we need. Best music to our ears? Music big time to our ears, man. Music big time die ears. All right, before we get one last question, anybody you want to shout out anything you need to shout out? Say hey, shout out my mom, my Dukes, you know I love you. Can't wait to see you first game. Shout out my boy coach Nana RDF.

37:41 You already know best trainer in the in the whole world and shit. Shout out hokey nation. I'm gonna need y'all to show out every single every single home game this year. Yeah, I mean, come out. Let me see your hokey pride. Yes Sir. There we go. I love you man all. Right, Brian, the the traditional all. Right, We will close it out. I mean you've been here what 4-5 months at this point, maybe almost six months. I guess at this point you got to go to food spot. I know you got the wings there that you that you pulling in after practice, but what's the go to spot for you so far? It's it's been the same spot wherever I go, Chipotle, there we go. Ain't ain't never going to change like you you can, you can't beat Chipotle's pricing anywhere like and especially the way I've been doing it. Like I used to have some fat friends back in high school put me on game.

38:27 They're in there. They're like, hey, could they be kind of keep you all through that one little small scoop of meat and all that? I'm like, Nah, can I get a little bit more, but not extra. I appreciate you though. Because they kind of charge a. Little bit more, but not extra is. I charge you extra like $4.00. I'm like Nah get out of here y'all tripping. I get a little bit more but not extra. He said don't give me the fat tags, give me just a little bit more. I was like, that's automatic, but it's a little bit more just like, you know, I mean, half a scoop and they're coming out of your paycheck. But yeah, that's why like Chipotle hands on. That's my spot. But hey, if there's a there's some spot in Blacksburg, that's you know what I mean? Want to throw an NIL deal for some food? I'm I'm all for it. I, I 100% bet that really soon somebody's going to be throwing you some NIL stuff around Blacksburg once they start seeing you first of all play, but also energy that you bring. So just keep being you, man.

39:18 Keep being you, brother. Hell yeah. Yes, Sir. Curtis, you got anything else? I think you're on mute bud. He's muted. I would say he was muted. I'm muted this. Last for the last 40 minutes, I mean, and even beforehand, y'all, y'all didn't get to go through the backstage shift that we were talking about with James here. But listen man, good luck to you this year. The energy you brought tonight. If if you if that resonates with this whole team this year, it's going to be a special season. Thank you for sharing your story because I think there's a lot of people out there and it doesn't matter football or life.

39:59 Your story from Springfield, VA to a private school Independence to Arizona State to Eastern Michigan and finally landing back at home for that final season. You're getting the accolades like Sheldon said early in the program, you got recognized last year as being one of the best top rated linebackers in the country. It's awesome to have you here. It's awesome to see you play and man, I, I, I. I can't wait for Labor Day weekend. I can't wait to see you the first time coming out of the tunnel with 66,000. Hopefully, maybe one of us can make it up for that game. We're going to try our best, but. You got to what? Most death. Well man James we were mentioning we married Tally buying a house, he got two kids he putting a girl through college. I got 3 kids.

40:46 Sheldon Sheldon's job is a weekend type job. But we, we will. We are going to try to make everything in our. Time pack them in the minivan I'm gonna get y'all some tickets and then show up let's get. It. There you go. There you go. Yeah. Well, James, we appreciate you joining us tonight and y'all that's going to wrap up this episode of the Boundary Corner Podcast brought to you by Main Street Pharmacy. I'm Curtis Wilson. Brian Siegler. Joe Vitelli. And I'm Sean Moss. Along with the Junk Man because I my boy Robbie just texted me and said he's got to make the junk Man work along with Joanne James, Jacquem the The Ginger Free Kid and you don't. Know why they call me the Junk Man?

41:27 Go ahead. Because I take out the trash. There we go. Visit our website, boundarycornerbt.com to listen to this episode and all of our episodes. Follow us on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, our YouTube accounts, any pod source you can think of. As always, the music you heard at the beginning of the program was our buddy Jason Long, who's down in Roanoke. He plays us in, he plays us out every week. Check out Jason Long music.com where we'll link you to all of his music, Apple, Spotify and his YouTube account, Facebook pages. Also on his website, we'll show you where he's playing live music. I forgot to bring that up tonight and I'm sure he's playing somewhere at local this weekend. We appreciate James, you showing up tonight giving us some fun times. I'll take one more look at that smiling face before we get out of here.

42:14 There we go. That is pretty. Funny, there we go, there it is right there. We appreciate y'all in the chat and we appreciate you all for listening. And as always, let's go. Hokies, Hokies. Music.