This week we're joined by VTScoop's Matej Sis for a recruiting update and assessment as we head into the beginning of fall camp. We also get his takes on conference realignment, Virginia Tech's showing at ACC Media Days, and recent roster announcements that might impact the Hokies this Fall.

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Welcome back to the boundary
Corner podcast do it.

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Okay do it.
Pull the trigger, man, pulling

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the trigger.
How you doing tonight?

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What's going on guys?
Guys, this week will welcome in

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from 24/7 matej.
Systematic, how are you doing

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this evening, buddy?
I'm doing great, I'm happy to be

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back on with you guys.
It's been a minute.

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But ready to chop it up?
Oh yeah.

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It's been.
It's been a few months.

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Last time you were with us, the
Hokies had no commits.

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You saying they were one on the
way it took about three weeks

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later, but we got so much to go
over tonight.

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We got a ton of questions from
at a But we're going to start

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with just some hokey headlines
this week and let's talk about

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this matej Ryan, both of you
guys, let's talk about this.

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Colbeck is returning back to the
football team.

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Anybody shocked by this I mean
personally, yes, but considering

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he's been on the track team.
Pretty much his entire career.

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I know that, you know, upon his
commitment coming from around

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the corner.
A lot of people were very

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excited, he's you know, 61 185
Speedster.

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I mean, absolute burner.
And everyone was saying, it

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doesn't matter if he can catch,
doesn't matter.

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You know, what type of alignment
in the backfield, put them on

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special teams, put them on punt,
return, kick return, Turn let

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him go to work and you know it
seems like maybe that's a start

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for him, see how it works.
If you have the room might as

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well, add some one, another
weapon to your roster that could

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potentially, you know, help out
the Hokies on special teams but

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it definitely is strange after
how long the absence has been

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since he was kind of
contemplating okay, am I going

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to do football and track or am I
doing one or the other?

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So it's definitely a shocker I
didn't expect to hear his name

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back on the team, but definitely
the coaching staff, see

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something that they can utilize
him.

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Yeah.
It looks like, I mean, you know,

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he's accomplished a lot in track
since he's been with the Hokies.

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You know, 10 11, 100 meter, is
nothing to nothing to sneeze at.

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Well, Brian, we me and Brian
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You know what?
10 11 translate to 240, Y'all

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know the four three seven four
two four two ish is that it is

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that accounting for the fact
that 100 meters, you're more

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fatigued than running the 40s.
It's true.

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It's also technically it could
be faster than afford to what I

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solve that we were talking about
earlier.

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I had a build a site and I put
it in and it was like four to

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them.
Like I would, I would say, you

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know, 40 maybe he's a for, he's
definitely a guy.

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Even blink at that.
Yeah, but go ahead.

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My apologies.
I had no, you're good now.

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You're good.
Yeah, just getting cold back

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back.
I think that, you know, but they

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said it definitely kick returns,
you know, you got a guy with

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that type of speed, you know,
has a history with as a running

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back so you know, that he's got
decent Vision in the open field.

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So I think that's going to be
where you going to see him at

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the gate, whether whether it
gets back there and punch I

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think is going to depend on how
well his hands are because you

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don't want me.
Bonds.

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That's essentially giving the
other team, an extra possession,

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but I could definitely see him
on kick return and maybe doing

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some stuff with with out of the
back field or from the wing on

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offense, either getting the ball
to him in space, passing it or,

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you know, handoffs out of the
backfield.

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So get, you can never really
argue with getting more speed on

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your team Absol.
Absolutely not.

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You can't argue with that.
You can't argue with the speed

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but if Thing else you mentioned
it on kick returns.

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If you can remember, guys last
year Malachi Thomas and chance

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black.
We're doing some kick return

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Beauty.
If nothing else.

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It helps your depth overall
because if he's back there it's

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like he's your primary got you
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throwing the Duane Lofton or
somebody from the wide receiver

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core or a running back or
defensive back.

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So you're saving them those
snaps and I know it's it's on,

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we know most time four to six
times a game, but that's where

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the weird injuries happened.
That's where the Little Nick's

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happen where a guy gets nicked
and he can Play the series of

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vast importance on the field.
So if for nothing else, like you

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said, put him back there, on
kick return, at least make teens

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respect that you have somebody
that fast and if he can pump the

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ball you know, give him a
chance.

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Now I wouldn't say it in a tight
game like no, but, you know,

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hopefully some of these early
games are merely ODU and

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Walford, the Hokies can go run
up a big lead early and it's

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like, here's your opportunity.
Go out.

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Out there we're up 35 to 10,
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quarter, the games put away?
Yep.

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You that because you cannot
teach speed and he's got that

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in.
He's got that he's got that at

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levels where he could
potentially make the Olympic

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team because running that low
that 10, one that will get you

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on a that could get you on a
relay team if you just trim that

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down to like a 10.8 or some 10
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Yeah I think you know we talked
about that as well.

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Do we think that this is going
to cut into snaps from some of

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the other guys in that bag feel
particularly chance black.

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That's the question they can is
if they're getting back involved

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in the offense has it's going to
be something that's designed

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specifically for him or very
limited playset.

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Or is this going to be something
where some of the opportunities

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chance may have had out of the
backfield are going to get

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thrown Kolb X Direction.
Yeah, I think it's definitely

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something where maybe they
Envision a limited role for him.

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And you have to imagine to like,
you're saying, if he's a guy

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that could potentially, you
know, be in the Olympics or, you

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know, even being qualifiers or
what not, you know, he's not

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going to take this risk for, you
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opportunity.
I think there's a Clear Vision

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in mind for him.
I think, you know, everyone has

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a fresh start with new coaching
staff, but I think they pulled

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him in a little late or Or he
came to them.

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Approach them essentially
saying, you know what, I think I

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can I could be of service.
I don't think he'll be, you

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know, a top for back in the
rotation.

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By any means, I think Chance
black has really risen up with

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this new coaching staff and I
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have a defined role.
They won't throw too much Adam.

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I've heard he's been, you know,
he's been working extra in the

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weight room, to kind of keep up
with some of the other guys, but

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I don't Envision this Being
okay, you're going to be on kick

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returns or pushing other guys
for that opportunity to be, you

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know, a kick returner and then
mix in.

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You know, we're going to put you
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We're going to put you out of
wide receiver.

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I think that would be way too
much for him.

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Yeah.
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In the only way you put them at
wide, receiver is just go run

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vertical and even if they don't
go with you that's fine.

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Maybe we take a shot.
The one last piece I'll say is

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this, he has two years of
Eligibility left, thanks to:.

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So, and again, if he approached
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whichever way it worked.
Clearly, like you said, mattei,

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you coaching staffs different
things happen.

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So let's hope it's all for the
best for the Hokies.

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All right, something that is
not, that's the best.

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For the Hokies.
We've been talking about the guy

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since he committed few months
ago for Darius pain, the reports

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out that he has torn his
Achilles Mateo.

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Have you heard even more All
about this or is the word on the

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street, it is what it is and it
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At this point.
I can't confirm whether it's you

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know, fully torn, partially
torn.

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You know, it seems to be the
word as well.

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You know, he's likely out for
the season but it's not

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definitive.
I personally think he's done for

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this year.
Don't hold your breath to see

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him.
You know late in the season.

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Again we're talking about a guy
that's coming into a new

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situation, you In staff, you
know over the course of the

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Season guys are going to develop
guys are going to be in the

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rotation be counted on and you
know, it's extremely tough.

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Not only does he have to return
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he can practice but then to get
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season?
You know, that's really tough.

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So obviously a huge blow.
You don't pick up a guy like

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this just to have him ride the
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He was a guy that was going to
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You know.
I think he wanted a bigger.

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Opportunity, the coaching staff
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it's just you know one of those
unfortunate things that I feel

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like happens every offseason
there's always one guy that

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bites the dust and it's just
really It's upsetting to know a

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guy with a lot of potential
could have made a big sizable

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impact for the team.
And you know instead he's going

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to be sidelined.
Yeah, I think that's the big

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thing is that you know, there
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It's at a position where we're
already very thin heading into

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The season really across the
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defensive end, I think we got
some some young guys that could

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potentially Make some noise.
But we don't have a whole lot in

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terms of proven Talent there,
especially getting into the 3D

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that we probably are going to
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So it losing a guy like him,
definitely hurts on the top end

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and hurts from a deaf person
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So it's a tough loss and you
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we can manage that going into
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Mmm.
Yeah, anywhere puts probably the

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most stress on.
It's going to be guys from like

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the 21 class, like the stretch,
Carol who have been developing

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and getting their into their
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They're going to have to
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They're probably going to get
more reps this year than than

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probably Brent pride and JC
price want to give them and

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Coach more want to give them.
And that's where it stinks.

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It's probably a guy, you know,
talk about carrying moist and

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from last year, or Burgos, is it
one of those things where if If

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they show out on special teams.
In some way, shape or form where

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it's like, they're good
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have to use them on the line and
that's where it stinks long term

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because there could be a guy who
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developments a lot better than
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But they were pushed that extra
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Eligibility because they are
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and they can learn the role.
So, that's where it stinks

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because I know, Brian, we
mentioned him.

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You know, definitely was going
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You know, no could not say if he
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consistent 43 end, especially on
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But we knew third down third and
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He's going to be probably out
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Could there be some packages
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technique, you know, attacking
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That's where it sucks and it's
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So you know, Beck's back good
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May be good for an offensive
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But then Somewhere where it
really hurts with pain going

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down.
You know, it's like where we

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didn't need it for.
We didn't need somebody to go

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there.
All right, guys.

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First of all, I'll tell you up
in Northern Virginia, right?

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Yeah, currently in d.c.
Okay.

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Last time we spoke Northern
Virginia.

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Okay.
Did you get to go to the

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tailgate event with coach Brian
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There did not unfortunately, I
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Okay.
Well, first of all next year,

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when it happens, which I think
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based on our event go, go, the
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more out on acc me.
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If you guys haven't went back
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posted last week, his time with
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the podium.
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person enrichment here just
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something that really stuck out
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he's just going to be one of
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It's going to be honest because
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anything.
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We're in a day and age where
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somewhere the other you really
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And when he was talking talking
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think the hose Kelty Riggs,
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really doing with this team, was
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trying to make the guys embrace
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to improve.
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it tells me He he understands
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you can prove on your
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perspective of what's good is
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We can we can polish that we can
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But unless we embrace our flaws
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hide those as best we can with
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that stuff, then, you know, a
lot of that's not going to

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matter.
He understands.

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The weaknesses of the roster of
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he stated it multiple times.
You know, we got some good

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players but we need a lot more
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We don't have we don't have
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positions, right now.
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the defensive line we just
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evident on the offensive line
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I think that's evident on at the
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from an experience perspective.
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guy that why receive a room that
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he's a former walk-on and we got
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him.
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Well, discount, Jane Blues
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Very true.
But he still, he still new to

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power the football.
He's due to the Hokies.

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offensive line, obviously,
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about we got maybe one that we
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then we've got a bunch of big
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So we've got to embrace that.
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there's limitations are and then
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as best as possible.
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Brent Pride just being open and
honest about everything he has a

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bit of a grace period you know
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you know you come in you kind of
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personality.
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appreciative that you know,
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I'm not going to kick him while
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a method to protecting your guys
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But when you're a first-year
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fan base, you need to pull back
the curtains and let everyone

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in.
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he wants to build momentum with
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He's showing an every press
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of doing that, you know you're
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some of the situation.
So kudos to him for doing that,

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I think it's really refreshing
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whole lot about About you know
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The on-field results will be but
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that.
I think there's a lot of people

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not locker room that say you
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want to fight for and for much
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Fuente.
But still nonetheless want to

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fight for him.
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And we talked about the openness
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been so free and talking about
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talked about evaluating
weaknesses and being open moving

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guys, not hesitant and then
coming straight out and saying

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we Gionta Jenkins.
We move Jr.

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Walker, we've slid this person
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We're trying this person back.
We moved to Mark honor to

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safety.
It wasn't like it's hidden.

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Like people are going to
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guys are playing.
Anyway, it best, it's a

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one-week, it's one week.
It's one week where nobody knows

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what you're doing.
We do have to wait till that

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like glimpse of an open practice
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switched positions.
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Exactly.
The other parts that he's been

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talking about is we talk about
evaluating those weaknesses, you

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talked about when he gets into
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who we are, as a team, we're
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get better in any kind of talked
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Probably he said, within a
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he'll know.
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first few weeks, it's well that
next week is, when you're

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probably going to start your
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So Brian, what do you think
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Do you think he's putting a lot
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Is he the think that?
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long time to wait to say that or
is it one of those things where

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these guys have been in summer
there might be somebody coming

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out of some of the just shocks
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we are before.
I see these guys again.

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So I look at it this way,
there's levels to it, right?

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So especially when you're
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Defense.
When you have like a spring

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session, you have a winter
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spring practice, you get to
evaluate but you're evaluating a

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very base level of the offense
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They have, they haven't gone
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this point.
So you might have some kids that

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jump up to the top real quick
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But struggle a little bit
picking up the, the finer

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concept as you get deeper into
the Playbook, whereas others

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might have been a little bit of
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now that they've got The basics
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All this other stuff is coming
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and they're showing that when
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So you don't want to kind of
lock in and just trust what you

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saw in the spring because, you
know, there's been a period

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since then with installation.
There's been some, our workouts

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there, other things that could
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these players.
So you want to take a week or

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two maybe up to three to
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you get into kind of the full,
the full padded practices and

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where you're getting a little
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Now, the other things that have
been pretty cool to see in and I

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think we felt like we saw this
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but then it kind of went away.
Was he mentions button?

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Frank being in the building a
few days a week and the one

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thing he said that just it
didn't shock me but I loved

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hearing it.
It's like Chris more if you need

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to go pick bugs brain.
I mean, that's awesome to hear.

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Just straight up.
Now 1000%, I think, you know,

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it's funny how much but is still
involved with the program, it's

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like, he's pretty much, you
know, he wants to be the

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defensive coordinator even with
Justin Hamilton, you know, the

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amount that he mentored him, and
now with Chris Marv, you know,

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picking each other's brains, you
know, it's only positive, is

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there, and it's a guy that loves
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So, much, loves Virginia Tech,
more than anything.

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And I think the one thing,
Whenever you hire a coach and I

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know a lot of people looked at
bream pride and they say okay

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you know, he's a ga for, you
know, a little bit.

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How much does he get?
Virginia Tech but I think he's

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showing, you know, as much as he
wants to move forward and create

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this new culture and create this
new Legacy.

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You know, you have to honor the
grates before you and he's

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making them a priority and, you
know, I think it can only help

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and like you said, that's an
awesome line.

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I didn't hear that.
But to hear that, You know,

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collaborating the more help that
you know the better that type of

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stuff helps with by in, right.
So you got Marv who is a

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first-time coordinator stepping
into this role?

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Obviously he's getting mentored
under pry.

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Probably coming from that DC
role before he's at Virginia

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Tech, but picking a legend like
Bud Foster's.

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Brain is only going to help the
tools in your toolbox,

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especially as a new coordinator,
so that's encouraging and it's

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encouraging that he He's
encouraging his staff to embrace

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the legacy of Virginia Tech and
I feel like that's a, that's a

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contrast from what we I think
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So it's really good to feel like
we're really embracing that

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Legacy.
But also, you know, forging are

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forging A New Path in a
different way in a way that is

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more modern to the ins and outs
of how program is put together.

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Whether that's Rome support
staff analyst, you know, the

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whole shebang off the field but
we're still leaning on the

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Legacy that helped create what
Blacksburg is known for 100%

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also just jump in quickly.
I mean, you don't want to pick

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Frank Beamer spraying about like
ni L right but you know, base

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defense has and certain schemes,
like they're going to stay the

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same throughout time like it's a
lot of people incorporate these

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things, even Today, so, you
know, kind of brushing up on

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that.
I'm sure Marv hasn't figured

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out, you know, prai is
definitely, you know, in his ear

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all the time about, you know,
what he wants to run and and

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kind of fostering that defense.
But, you know, to have pride

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that has done it at a high level
recently.

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And also Bud, Foster has done it
for decades, you know, that's

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for first-year coordinator.
I mean, those are the best

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mentors you could possibly get.
So by all accounts, more of his

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ass.
Engine terms of picking up

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Concepts and being able to
translate that on the field.

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So anything that he's getting
from from from bud and Frank is

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obviously going to be a good
thing and yeah, I know we talked

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about Marv there but I know
Holtzman picking Frank's brain

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as well on the specials team
side of things.

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And, you know, we know that
that's two whole is you've got a

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very knowledgeable on special
teams front but there's a It's

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called Beamer ball.
A precedent was set a long time

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ago in the things Frank did
completely change the special

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Team game to where you know it
was specifically plan for when

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we play Virginia Tech and those
things that went through college

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football of how to make sure you
don't get your pumps W, how you

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set up kick returns and punt
returns because of Frank.

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But what I really love about
hearing this also is Brent.

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Pry isn't a control freak?
Hey, Chris go talk to her.

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Hey, Steve go talk to Frank guys
pick these guys brains because

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he's a head coach now and if
you're a control freak and

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you're not letting these guys
step out and speak to people in

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the building that could
potentially help.

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You're basically running
yourself ragged as a first-time

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head coach.
So I love hearing that.

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Now, I want to hit this real
quick because mattei this is

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definitely your street right
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He talked about the portal and
we've been hearing more and more

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about the portal and And, you
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We need dates set dates.
That makes sense for our

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rosters.
Do you think that's getting

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closer?
Now that we have, there's

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essentially, no, you know, now
it's wide, open three agencies,

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official in the NCAA because
that rule gives can transfer any

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time.
Do you think we're going to be

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close to having here, your
windows that you can get in the

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portal?
I think.

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So.
I think everything's being

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expedited.
I mean, from from References to

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portals.
And I L, I mean, you name it,

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you know, even the college
football playoffs, which doesn't

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seem all that long ago is, you
know, it seems like light years

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away at this point, just with
how much college football in the

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landscape has changed.
So, you know, he was talking

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about it, I think it was in his
initial press conference, how

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they're getting someone to
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As a full-time job.
So definitely taking the

446
00:25:44,500 --> 00:25:48,200
significance of it and, you
know, again, I mentioned it

447
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,900
before.
He's a clean slate, he's a fresh

448
00:25:50,900 --> 00:25:55,100
start, he's got a little bit of
a grace period, but he's a guy

449
00:25:55,100 --> 00:25:58,600
that's going to want to build up
this roster and you know,

450
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,100
typically it's always been okay.
We're going to we're going to

451
00:26:02,100 --> 00:26:05,100
build it through the recruiting
ranks but you don't have to do

452
00:26:05,100 --> 00:26:07,900
that anymore and I think he
understands that it's an

453
00:26:07,900 --> 00:26:10,100
ever-changing landscape, you
know, the to court.

454
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:14,400
Our backs for next year, both
came out of the portal, you

455
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:18,000
know, to bolster that position
and you know, I think they'll

456
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:22,200
continue to look at the portal
even, you know, as it leads up

457
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:26,200
into fall camp and and see if
they can add any more people.

458
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,200
I think they're always going to
monitor it.

459
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:32,200
And but definitely, there's
going to need to be some dates

460
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:36,300
because I can totally Envision a
scenario where there's one guy,

461
00:26:36,300 --> 00:26:39,300
the transfer somewhere, all of a
sudden, you know, what I lost is

462
00:26:39,300 --> 00:26:41,500
competition.
A can transfer again.

463
00:26:41,500 --> 00:26:46,200
So, you know, they definitely
need to to kind of, you know,

464
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:50,300
fix it up a little bit, put some
precedent in there, and put some

465
00:26:50,300 --> 00:26:52,300
dates.
So, you know, all the coaches

466
00:26:52,300 --> 00:26:55,200
have an equal chance to kind of
navigate that.

467
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,400
You think those dates are going
to be sometime like, December

468
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:03,500
through early January and then
like late April through mid-may,

469
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,900
I would imagine there would be
like a dead period for it.

470
00:27:06,900 --> 00:27:10,000
And I think it would coincide
with kind of the early Signing

471
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,600
Day.
A one maybe ends, you know,

472
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:17,700
right after the the you know,
previous official Signing Day

473
00:27:17,700 --> 00:27:22,500
and then definitely as Camp, you
know, spring gets rolling

474
00:27:22,500 --> 00:27:23,900
around.
There's going to be guys.

475
00:27:23,900 --> 00:27:28,000
I mean we we saw with Virginia
Tech this, this past spring, you

476
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:32,300
know, Bunch you guys leave for
New Opportunities.

477
00:27:32,300 --> 00:27:36,900
So I don't think it's going to
change too much in terms of what

478
00:27:36,900 --> 00:27:39,500
we've come to expect.
You know, when most of the guys

479
00:27:39,500 --> 00:27:43,300
are entering The transfer
portal, I think just mandating

480
00:27:43,300 --> 00:27:46,300
you know a specific timeline
having a little bit of a dead

481
00:27:46,300 --> 00:27:50,700
period would definitely help you
but you don't see things like

482
00:27:50,700 --> 00:27:52,400
today.
What those are can for Star

483
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,000
Quarterback.
From Kentucky that went in the

484
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,800
portal to day like literally a
week from probably when their

485
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,700
Camp opens, I am getting out of
here because that's the things

486
00:28:01,700 --> 00:28:04,400
that can mess up because you're
talking about the developmental

487
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,000
part of the program and I know
Brent said it, you said it

488
00:28:07,008 --> 00:28:09,900
pretty good, they won't kids to
find the program that fits them.

489
00:28:10,300 --> 00:28:13,400
So, you have to embrace the
portal in that way, but then he

490
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,500
said, but we have to be able to
manage our roster.

491
00:28:15,500 --> 00:28:17,700
We can't be sitting here talking
about.

492
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,700
Hey, he's probably going to be
our third string, our Scout

493
00:28:19,700 --> 00:28:21,900
quarterback.
Oh, he's out now.

494
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,900
Okay, well now we have to
completely change what we're

495
00:28:26,900 --> 00:28:29,800
going to do for our scout team
because you know, he was a big

496
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,000
army guy.
We wanted him out there to be

497
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,400
able to throw downfield, to,
really help us.

498
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:41,400
So I get it in all sense of the
portal and They want it that way

499
00:28:41,900 --> 00:28:43,600
and let the kids go wherever
they want.

500
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,000
As long as they can
academically, Do It.

501
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,400
Go final.
Your best place to where you

502
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,500
think you can, you know, play
collegiate ball, potentially,

503
00:28:51,500 --> 00:28:55,400
get your chance to go to the
next level 100% on all of that.

504
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,200
Yeah, and I mean, we've talked
about a lot on here.

505
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:02,900
I'm all for like player
movement, I'm all for.

506
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:09,000
In il to a point in terms of how
students can make money off

507
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,300
their name in July this, you
know, and things like that.

508
00:29:11,300 --> 00:29:16,100
So, we talked about those things
here a lot, and, and I'm very

509
00:29:16,100 --> 00:29:19,400
supportive of that, but we just
need to make sure that we're

510
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,700
doing in a framework that works
for everybody.

511
00:29:23,100 --> 00:29:25,800
And I think that this, this is
kind of the, I think the big

512
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,600
thing that needs to happen on
the transfer portal front.

513
00:29:28,900 --> 00:29:33,400
So that coaches and programs can
better manage their roster and

514
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,200
know what, To expect when
they're heading into spring,

515
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,700
practice and know what to expect
with their heading into summer

516
00:29:38,700 --> 00:29:42,800
workouts.
In Fall camp. 100%.

517
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,400
All right, sort of the last
couple pieces here, common, a

518
00:29:45,408 --> 00:29:48,900
blend them together.
Brent talked about his team

519
00:29:48,900 --> 00:29:52,000
leaders, you know, trust in him
right out of the gate and that

520
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,400
helped him move quickly, which
is awesome.

521
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,900
And I'm sure, it's probably
those three guys who were down

522
00:29:56,900 --> 00:29:59,800
in.
Charlotte Dax Silas and Caleb

523
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,800
definitely being probably the
lead on that.

524
00:30:02,300 --> 00:30:06,900
But also, when he talked to
Eddie Royal and he looked at

525
00:30:06,900 --> 00:30:12,700
Eddie and he said this program
is more yours than mine, And he

526
00:30:12,700 --> 00:30:15,700
and you could kind of see a
little emotion in both of their

527
00:30:15,700 --> 00:30:20,000
eyes and it's something about
him that he talks about and

528
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,100
we've seen it more and more.
He has a passion for this place

529
00:30:23,500 --> 00:30:29,200
and that goes a long long ways
and you know again with that

530
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,300
statement to Eddie it's just
like it's that thing that we

531
00:30:32,300 --> 00:30:36,900
keep seeing more and more.
That it is probably why we three

532
00:30:36,900 --> 00:30:39,500
sit here and people are, you
know, watching the stream

533
00:30:39,500 --> 00:30:41,500
tonight is probably why we want
them to succeed.

534
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:47,300
Because the maroon.
And the orange, run in his

535
00:30:47,300 --> 00:30:52,900
blood.
Yeah, me, it seems like he knows

536
00:30:52,900 --> 00:30:55,400
what it's all about.
I mean, the the whole he just

537
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,600
gets it.
I mean and I know it said a lot

538
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:05,900
but I say it a lot, it's true.
I mean, and I think the fact

539
00:31:05,900 --> 00:31:08,600
that he's coming on the heels of
someone and I don't think got

540
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:09,900
it.
Yep.

541
00:31:10,700 --> 00:31:14,000
You know, the contrast I think
his what standing out as well.

542
00:31:15,500 --> 00:31:18,000
You know, I think there are
certain things that Justin

543
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,400
Fuente did appreciate about
Virginia Tech, but I don't think

544
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:24,800
he ever fully embraced the
culture that was created at

545
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:30,200
Virginia Tech and I think that's
that's where prize died.

546
00:31:30,300 --> 00:31:37,600
Diving in feet first and really
you know understanding and

547
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:41,000
showing that he appreciates and
knows what makes Virginia Tech

548
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,900
special and he's going to try
his best to get the program back

549
00:31:43,900 --> 00:31:46,800
to where it was.
So that feel special for those

550
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,200
fans?
Yeah and I think there's a

551
00:31:49,300 --> 00:31:52,900
there's a difference between
trying and being, you know,

552
00:31:52,900 --> 00:31:56,900
trying and being genuine because
you know, even with Fuente we

553
00:31:56,900 --> 00:31:58,600
saw okay.
We're going to honor Frank

554
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:03,300
Beamer's, 25 every single Give
it out to someone, you know,

555
00:32:03,300 --> 00:32:08,600
we're going to you know, put
lunch pail on everything, we're

556
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:13,200
going to, you know, VT is home
but at the end of the day it

557
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,700
just it some of it didn't seem
genuine.

558
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,600
Some of it seemed a little Force
to try to you know, tie together

559
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:25,100
you know Frank Beamer and his
era and it just seems with Brent

560
00:32:25,100 --> 00:32:26,900
pry.
Like everything is so genuine

561
00:32:26,900 --> 00:32:32,400
like everything he wants to be
doing and You know, he's not

562
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,900
just saying the things to say
them.

563
00:32:34,900 --> 00:32:37,700
I think he believes that, he's
really embracing the

564
00:32:37,700 --> 00:32:40,700
opportunity, because he
genuinely loves the place, it

565
00:32:40,700 --> 00:32:44,500
gave him, one of his, you know,
it gave him his start to a long

566
00:32:44,500 --> 00:32:48,100
coaching career and I think he's
coming back as a first-time head

567
00:32:48,100 --> 00:32:51,600
coach and saying, you know, I
love this place and I want to,

568
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,100
you know, cherish all these
important things and do my

569
00:32:55,100 --> 00:32:59,700
research and become the best,
you know, possible fit for this.

570
00:33:00,300 --> 00:33:02,500
Graham.
Absolutely.

571
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:08,100
Alright, so we've had the
appetizer.

572
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:09,800
Now it's time for the main
course.

573
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:15,000
This is what he's here for but
before we get to that Y'all,

574
00:33:15,100 --> 00:33:20,700
Brent proper little balls move
at the media day and in was it

575
00:33:20,700 --> 00:33:22,800
planned?
Maybe maybe not.

576
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:29,100
Maybe he asks for to 45 for a
certain reasonably to 15, but

577
00:33:29,900 --> 00:33:33,300
when one of the support staff
there and he pulls out his

578
00:33:33,300 --> 00:33:34,800
phone, the Hokies just got
better.

579
00:33:35,300 --> 00:33:37,300
Got another commit plays is
falling down.

580
00:33:37,700 --> 00:33:40,800
Oh my God.
And that commitment was a guy

581
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,500
right here in the r-va
highest-rated.

582
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:47,900
Virginia Prospect so far camera
and filming from Trinity.

583
00:33:47,900 --> 00:33:52,300
Episcopal another private school
pick up where for years Virginia

584
00:33:52,300 --> 00:33:55,000
Tech has struggled to in one
week.

585
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:59,400
After Christian Williams, you
know, Fleming's of cornerback

586
00:33:59,500 --> 00:34:03,000
6-foot 185 lat.
A lot of interest from a lot of

587
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:07,900
different schools Tech in
Minnesota had some looks at from

588
00:34:07,900 --> 00:34:11,699
some SEC schools, as well as
some big 10 schools.

589
00:34:11,900 --> 00:34:16,199
So Brian, Kick.
The mattei first here, mattei

590
00:34:16,699 --> 00:34:20,199
from what you've heard about him
and maybe had a chance to speak

591
00:34:20,199 --> 00:34:21,900
with him.
What do you think about this

592
00:34:21,900 --> 00:34:23,500
young man?
Yeah.

593
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,400
First, and first and foremost, I
want to start by just sharing a

594
00:34:27,408 --> 00:34:31,800
little funny story, but we were
expecting Camp to commit the

595
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,199
same day.
I was covering the press

596
00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:39,300
conference and Evan.
Walk-ins who's also on 24/7 was

597
00:34:39,300 --> 00:34:42,100
going to cover the commitment
that he was just going to

598
00:34:42,100 --> 00:34:47,300
announce on social media.
Yeah, it was around like 12:30

599
00:34:48,199 --> 00:34:52,100
that we were expecting it and it
kept getting pushed and pushed

600
00:34:52,100 --> 00:34:56,500
but not not in the way that it
was like, okay, it's something

601
00:34:56,500 --> 00:35:01,200
else going on here.
But then, you know, I'm waiting

602
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:06,600
for 2:15 for Brent, Pride to go
to the podium and Evans, texting

603
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,800
me on the side and he's like,
yeah, I think it's going to be

604
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,400
215.
I'm like, so you're telling me

605
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,400
this is about to happen, while
Brent prize, The podium like

606
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,800
something's going to happen and
it did.

607
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,700
So, in that moment happened, I
was still genuinely surprised,

608
00:35:20,700 --> 00:35:23,300
you know, to, to see him react
that way.

609
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,500
I didn't know if he was just
going to go through it.

610
00:35:25,500 --> 00:35:29,300
Put on his, you know,
professional poker face and just

611
00:35:29,500 --> 00:35:32,400
talk about Virginia Tech but you
know, he sees the moment, the

612
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,900
opportunity and, you know, it
made cam very happy that that,

613
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,400
you know, that's the reaction
from your head coach.

614
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:43,300
But for him, as a player, I
mean, he's an absolute stud and

615
00:35:44,100 --> 00:35:47,300
I'll just say that, you know, he
was silently committed to

616
00:35:47,300 --> 00:35:52,600
Minnesota and a lot of people
below Minnesota, but PJ Flack,

617
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,300
you know, when he, when he gets
you there and you know, you're

618
00:35:56,300 --> 00:35:59,200
on an official visit and he's
showing his personality.

619
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,500
You know, he's up there with
bream pride in terms of

620
00:36:01,700 --> 00:36:06,400
enthusiasm, trying to create a
family atmosphere but Fleming

621
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:10,500
really, you know, had his pick
of the litter UNC was filling up

622
00:36:10,500 --> 00:36:13,400
so between back and forth with
them.

623
00:36:14,100 --> 00:36:16,900
He found.
Okay well you know all these

624
00:36:16,900 --> 00:36:20,000
great things I can find at
Minnesota at North Carolina, I

625
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,200
can find them at Virginia Tech
as well and you know the

626
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:28,300
opportunity to be coached by
Derrick Jones was big on him and

627
00:36:28,300 --> 00:36:32,000
just the overall, you know, vibe
from the coaching staff, really

628
00:36:32,300 --> 00:36:36,300
convinced him and as well as
seeing, you know, 15 other guys

629
00:36:36,900 --> 00:36:39,900
in the boat with him, knowing
who's going to be playing with

630
00:36:39,900 --> 00:36:43,400
was was huge.
He's a great caliber player.

631
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,900
Where he deserves to be ranked
very high up.

632
00:36:46,900 --> 00:36:50,100
I think he's a top 20 Prospect
right now in Virginia.

633
00:36:50,300 --> 00:36:53,700
I would not be surprised to see
him pushing 10, he's that type

634
00:36:53,700 --> 00:36:57,200
of player.
He's a lockdown corner and I

635
00:36:57,207 --> 00:37:00,400
think, you know, he's a really
good fit for this Virginia Tech

636
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,300
defense.
He's not just, you know, your

637
00:37:02,300 --> 00:37:05,400
typical cover Corner, going to
blanket, the wide receiver.

638
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,000
He has a little bit of
physicality in his game as well.

639
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,600
He's taller and he'll physically
mature as well in the weight

640
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,400
room.
So, all around.

641
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,600
Really great fit heck of a
competitor and, you know, I

642
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,400
think he makes his class A lot
better.

643
00:37:21,900 --> 00:37:24,000
Brawn, what did you under, you
looked a little bit of the tape?

644
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,600
What else are you seeing from
that?

645
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,000
Yeah, and mattei said, it's a
big thing that stands out from a

646
00:37:28,008 --> 00:37:30,100
cornerback perspective is the
physicality.

647
00:37:30,500 --> 00:37:33,200
He plays physical.
He doesn't mind getting in there

648
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,500
and hitting you, see you?
See a lot of highlights of him

649
00:37:36,500 --> 00:37:38,600
getting getting interception,
but you also see a lot of

650
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:43,100
highlights of him, you know,
making plays in the running game

651
00:37:43,900 --> 00:37:48,400
out there on screens, knocking
the ball loose, you know,

652
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,500
forcing some fumbles, so he's
not afraid.

653
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,300
Afraid to bring the lik when he
needs to.

654
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:54,900
Would you like to see with the
corner?

655
00:37:54,900 --> 00:37:57,400
Especially guys that, you know,
potentially can can play on that

656
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:01,000
boundary side and need to be
balanced with the with the

657
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,100
shutdown capabilities with also
against the run.

658
00:38:03,100 --> 00:38:06,700
So we'll see if he develops into
that type of quarterback, but I

659
00:38:06,707 --> 00:38:08,800
feel like a really good pick up
by the Hokies here.

660
00:38:10,100 --> 00:38:15,200
Yes, sir.
So, you know big pickup RV, a

661
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,100
kid, the fifth and again
fontelle Minds doing a great

662
00:38:18,100 --> 00:38:20,300
job.
I think that that matej might be

663
00:38:20,300 --> 00:38:23,100
talking about him a little bit
later, but before we get into

664
00:38:23,100 --> 00:38:26,500
more recruiting questions, we
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00:38:26,500 --> 00:38:28,700
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Now back to the episode,
everybody fired up, let's go

674
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,800
Wing.
You that April to July was going

675
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,800
to be a really important.
Time for this class and that

676
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:05,300
said, did you think that there
would be?

677
00:39:06,500 --> 00:39:12,300
Let me just count it here. 17
kids committed before they got

678
00:39:12,300 --> 00:39:15,500
to Camp.
I did not.

679
00:39:15,900 --> 00:39:20,900
And to be honest with you, you
know, a lot of these commitments

680
00:39:20,900 --> 00:39:25,100
were pretty straightforward.
The Narrative was set, you know

681
00:39:25,100 --> 00:39:29,700
getting guys especially around
July 4th weekend in a row that

682
00:39:29,700 --> 00:39:32,900
was all planned.
You know, the communication has

683
00:39:32,900 --> 00:39:37,800
been great but to get the actual
results and all these guys in

684
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,400
the boat, Not just silently
committed, guys.

685
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,100
I mean, how many times have we
been talking about that, you

686
00:39:44,100 --> 00:39:50,200
know, in previous years, silent
silent, you know, I would be

687
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,000
assuring people.
Hey look, I know it says, 6

688
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,000
commenced, but there's really
10.

689
00:39:55,500 --> 00:39:57,400
This is, you know, this is
legitimate.

690
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:02,500
So I think cam Fleming, you
know, we were just kind of

691
00:40:02,500 --> 00:40:07,200
talking about them but Minnesota
was a huge player and didn't

692
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,500
know if he would end up.
Coming to Virginia Tech.

693
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:14,400
Christian Williams was another
guy that, you know, things

694
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:19,100
really started to heat up in the
past few months and to get them

695
00:40:19,100 --> 00:40:23,000
in early was a huge priority.
And then a guy like Thomas

696
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,400
Williams, who I personally
thought was going to South

697
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:32,200
Carolina, Shane Beamer Dorian
Gray, you know, those were, you

698
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:36,300
know, big advantages for the
Gamecocks and yet he says, you

699
00:40:36,300 --> 00:40:38,500
know what, I think I'm going to
leave.

700
00:40:38,700 --> 00:40:42,000
The in-state program and go to
Virginia Tech that was a big one

701
00:40:42,100 --> 00:40:47,100
so, you know, I could, I could
go up and down the list, but at

702
00:40:47,100 --> 00:40:51,000
least of recent memory, those
are three guys that I was not

703
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,500
expecting to be in the boat
right now.

704
00:40:53,500 --> 00:40:57,500
So, to have 17 right now, and
again, I would have to

705
00:40:57,500 --> 00:41:01,000
cross-reference with previous
classes but, you know, to get

706
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:05,200
that amount of people in huge
and and not only that.

707
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,500
But now you're at the point
where you have the foundation

708
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:12,200
Action and more, you have the
guys that know who they're going

709
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,700
to be playing with.
They establish relationships

710
00:41:15,700 --> 00:41:21,000
with their positional coaches.
And, you know, all in all, all

711
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,000
the guys are very excited and,
you know, it's still early in

712
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,800
the cycle.
And I think, you know, there's

713
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:30,400
often hesitancy to get a lot of
these guys because maybe they'll

714
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,700
be poached later on.
But right now, it seems like

715
00:41:33,700 --> 00:41:37,300
everyone is super solid.
Everyone really wants to be a

716
00:41:37,308 --> 00:41:39,500
hokey and I think that's a
Difference right now.

717
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,700
Yeah, we're definitely seen a
lot of enthusiasm from a lot of

718
00:41:42,700 --> 00:41:45,700
these.
These recruits I know Dante love

719
00:41:45,700 --> 00:41:50,400
it's been really heavy on
Twitter with recruiting and

720
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,100
talking to other players in this
class.

721
00:41:52,100 --> 00:41:55,800
So that's been big I think you
know we have talked back in

722
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,500
March that you said the staff is
really put an emphasis on

723
00:41:59,500 --> 00:42:01,700
Virginia and that you thought
that, you know, they wanted to

724
00:42:01,700 --> 00:42:04,900
have a Virginia kid out, the
gate with his class and you know

725
00:42:05,100 --> 00:42:08,400
we didn't end up getting that.
But we do have nine Virginia.

726
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:13,400
You kids in the boat at this
point, which of these nine do

727
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:17,200
you think could have the most
impact early on in their career?

728
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:23,400
That's a really good question.
You know, recency bias.

729
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,300
I think Christian Williams is a
guy that I know.

730
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:30,600
We at 24/7 have them, the
highest rated of the Virginia

731
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:34,300
prospects, the composite has in
my thing slightly lower than

732
00:42:34,300 --> 00:42:38,500
Fleming, but he just, I mean, he
could play on both.

733
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,400
Sides of the ball to be quite
honest with you.

734
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:45,400
I think he's been recruited as a
wide receiver and I think he can

735
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:49,000
make a heck of a wide receiver,
but I mean, there are people

736
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,900
saying that this guy has Pro
potential as a safety, if he can

737
00:42:52,900 --> 00:42:57,500
really grow into his body at 63
and well over 200 pounds, really

738
00:42:57,500 --> 00:43:01,900
physical guy, I think he's a guy
that, you know, he's going to

739
00:43:01,900 --> 00:43:04,200
get in the weight room.
He's going to be in the

740
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,700
Collegiate program where he can
bulk up a little bit and I think

741
00:43:07,700 --> 00:43:12,300
it's going to be Be undeniable
to move him to the secondary

742
00:43:12,300 --> 00:43:17,100
kind of like Devon Diablo.
He reminds me a lot of him and I

743
00:43:17,100 --> 00:43:20,800
think you know, having those
wide receiver skill set and the

744
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:25,300
mentality while moving over.
If he does end up moving over

745
00:43:25,300 --> 00:43:29,500
that is could really benefit him
and I think you know he has all

746
00:43:29,500 --> 00:43:33,200
the tools and I think this is
the perfect type of staff to

747
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:37,000
kind of really develop him.
So I definitely think he's

748
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,700
someone that is going to
Manifold early.

749
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:44,500
I can see him playing as soon as
next year and then, you know,

750
00:43:44,500 --> 00:43:46,400
maybe a guy like to vorian
Copeland.

751
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,600
He's a bit lanky right now, he's
a bit undersized.

752
00:43:50,100 --> 00:43:55,600
He's very long 64, 190, but he's
someone that I think, you know,

753
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,100
again, same type of thing.
If you if you give them the

754
00:43:58,100 --> 00:44:01,500
right nutrition, if you give
him, you know, all the benefits

755
00:44:01,500 --> 00:44:03,200
of being in the Collegiate
program.

756
00:44:03,500 --> 00:44:06,600
He's someone that can, you know,
do a lot of things, right.

757
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:10,900
He can cover you can Rush.
Shhhh you know most likely going

758
00:44:10,900 --> 00:44:15,100
to be kind of like a outside
linebacker but you know they

759
00:44:15,100 --> 00:44:17,800
want them in kind of that
Tremaine Edmunds mold.

760
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,900
And I think you could fit that a
lot of people didn't see

761
00:44:21,100 --> 00:44:25,200
Tremaine Edmonds playing early
on and all of a sudden he became

762
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:29,700
a monster and I'm not just
saying his freshman year, but as

763
00:44:29,700 --> 00:44:32,800
time went on, you know, he
really really became a monster

764
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,700
and, you know, I think to vorian
Copeland has shades of that.

765
00:44:35,700 --> 00:44:38,400
I'm not saying he's, you know,
Tremaine Edmunds.

766
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:42,100
Version 2 but I think there are
a lot of similarities.

767
00:44:42,100 --> 00:44:45,600
So those are two guys right now
that I'm looking at and I can

768
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:49,700
see them finding a way to
contribute early if not have

769
00:44:49,700 --> 00:44:52,600
sizable roles.
Yep, you mentioned, Copeland,

770
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:57,500
and you mentioned Williams in
24/7 is significantly higher on.

771
00:44:57,500 --> 00:44:59,800
Both of those guys.
In the rest they have William.

772
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:04,600
You guys have Williams at 14 or
composite hasn't 28 Copeland, is

773
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,000
it 30 composite?
You guys have him at 19 so you

774
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,900
guys are definitely
significantly higher on both of

775
00:45:09,908 --> 00:45:12,600
those guys.
And again we do feel like you

776
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:16,500
guys are the best out there and
you mentioned both of those

777
00:45:16,500 --> 00:45:20,300
Williams is here in the RV.
A Copeland is down Appomattox

778
00:45:20,300 --> 00:45:23,200
counting the central parts or
the rural part of the state.

779
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,500
You got the kid up from
Battlefield.

780
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:30,200
So now I have to ask you this,
when are you anticipating the

781
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:36,400
first 757 commitment coming?
And do you think that has been

782
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,400
the toughest area of the rebuild
for this?

783
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:45,600
So for 1000%, I think it's been
way harder than it should be.

784
00:45:47,700 --> 00:45:51,500
I don't know if I can give you
you know a timeline in terms of

785
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:55,400
when I expect that to happen but
it's been interesting and I'll

786
00:45:55,400 --> 00:46:01,500
say this too that the 757 has
been going through so many

787
00:46:01,500 --> 00:46:06,100
different types of like cultural
changes in terms of colleges

788
00:46:06,100 --> 00:46:08,800
coming in building
relationships, Oops.

789
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:12,000
You know, whether it's the Penn
State's the Michigan's Florida

790
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,100
State's coming in there, you
know, it seems like everyone has

791
00:46:15,100 --> 00:46:17,600
had their turn.
And Virginia Tech has been on

792
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:21,700
the outside looking in and
especially for this cycle, those

793
00:46:21,700 --> 00:46:23,800
relationships were built years
ago.

794
00:46:24,100 --> 00:46:27,700
So, a lot of the top talent for
this cycle has already been

795
00:46:27,700 --> 00:46:31,300
predetermined has already said,
you know what, we like the

796
00:46:31,300 --> 00:46:34,100
steam, we like Penn State, we
like Florida State.

797
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,800
And I think right now, when you
look at the 757, it's not as

798
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,600
deep as other Years for the
cycle.

799
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,400
That, you know, there is some
top end Talent there.

800
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:48,700
But overall, I would say that,
you know, maybe it's later in

801
00:46:48,700 --> 00:46:50,600
the cycle.
Maybe there's a spot that opens

802
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,500
up.
Maybe there's, you know, someone

803
00:46:53,500 --> 00:46:56,300
that they look at and say, you
know what, he's been playing

804
00:46:56,300 --> 00:46:58,500
really well this year, we didn't
see it coming.

805
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:00,800
He's someone, we would like to
have.

806
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,800
But as of right now, you know, I
don't have a name in mind for

807
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:07,800
some, the guy that could be the
first, but I think we'll start

808
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,400
to see those.
Those dividends paid off, you

809
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,000
know, next year, the year after
I think there's going to be a

810
00:47:13,008 --> 00:47:15,300
lot more.
I mean, Virginia Tech can't just

811
00:47:15,300 --> 00:47:18,200
rely Off Richmond, right?
So there's going to be a time

812
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:22,000
where you need the 75 and that
will happen.

813
00:47:22,100 --> 00:47:26,000
I just think, you know,
especially this cycle, those

814
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,300
relationships were already built
those players already knew where

815
00:47:29,300 --> 00:47:31,900
they were going to go and
Virginia Tech isn't just going

816
00:47:31,900 --> 00:47:34,900
to grab someone to say, you know
what, we fulfilled, our promise

817
00:47:34,900 --> 00:47:37,300
to this region.
We're building that

818
00:47:37,300 --> 00:47:39,400
relationship.
I think they're going to you

819
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,900
know continue to evaluate and if
there's someone there they'll

820
00:47:42,900 --> 00:47:45,700
definitely try.
But you know as of right now I

821
00:47:45,700 --> 00:47:49,300
think we're seeing they're
building those relationships and

822
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,200
much easier places right now.
Yeah.

823
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,200
Looking at the talent this year
you kind of mentioned it a

824
00:47:54,207 --> 00:47:57,900
little bit with the 75.
A lot of the recruits for this

825
00:47:57,900 --> 00:48:02,500
cycle or either kind of in that
upper part of the top 10 in the

826
00:48:02,508 --> 00:48:06,000
state rankings or kind of 25-ish
or lower.

827
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,300
There's not a lot of that kind
of meat potatoes.

828
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,300
Of the Class Type players,
right?

829
00:48:10,300 --> 00:48:14,400
This cycle which probably is
what's hurting us most in that

830
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:19,400
area as we try to rebuild those
those relationships because you

831
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:24,100
know we did burn some bridges
down there and I think more so

832
00:48:24,100 --> 00:48:30,300
than any other area in the state
they took it personal and then

833
00:48:30,300 --> 00:48:31,600
in a lot of cases, they should
have.

834
00:48:32,300 --> 00:48:36,300
So, you know, if we Justified so
we definitely got to get back

835
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,300
with that with that.
Relationship, and I think we've

836
00:48:40,300 --> 00:48:44,300
done a good job so far, but that
was one area where it wasn't

837
00:48:44,300 --> 00:48:49,700
going to be repaired overnight.
It wasn't a show up show out and

838
00:48:49,700 --> 00:48:54,700
all of a sudden, all those all
is well all is forgotten 757.

839
00:48:54,700 --> 00:48:57,800
Definitely makes you earn it.
And I think we're at that point,

840
00:48:58,700 --> 00:49:01,000
but I think we're doing a good
job of getting back.

841
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,600
There's but I don't think the
results are going to necessarily

842
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:07,000
show up this cycle.
We will probably at least

843
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,600
waiting for 2024.
Before we start seeing some real

844
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,600
head with their, well, they
definitely make you earn it in.

845
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:16,500
Like with the r-va.
The top dog is Lauren Johnson,

846
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:20,200
Warren Johnson is a tech Alum,
Warren Johnson played under

847
00:49:20,300 --> 00:49:24,100
Brent pry, who of his teammates
are on the coaching staff.

848
00:49:24,100 --> 00:49:26,600
Now that's a lot easier to get
in the end roads.

849
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:31,400
Then down in the 75, where right
now there is no notable hokey

850
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:36,300
alumni coaching down there.
So you know that the closest

851
00:49:36,300 --> 00:49:38,300
relationship is Chris Scott,
whose son.

852
00:49:38,500 --> 00:49:42,900
The Multan exactly a couple
years at Virginia Tech.

853
00:49:42,900 --> 00:49:46,500
So, yeah, that's probably the
strongest established

854
00:49:46,500 --> 00:49:48,300
relationship.
And then obviously, you know,

855
00:49:48,300 --> 00:49:54,600
there was out the gate a little
bit communication with, with the

856
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,300
Smith sat down there.
So that I think that probably

857
00:49:57,300 --> 00:49:59,100
slowed that down just a little
bit as well.

858
00:49:59,100 --> 00:50:02,300
So, you know, we'll see how it
moves forward.

859
00:50:02,300 --> 00:50:06,500
But let's move on to this, you
know, in terms of the Virginia

860
00:50:06,500 --> 00:50:11,500
top 15 players there still For
that don't have any solid

861
00:50:11,500 --> 00:50:15,900
commitments out there.
At this point can be on Keys

862
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:18,700
Hellcat mellow Taylor, Jordan
bass.

863
00:50:18,700 --> 00:50:22,400
And Elijah Hughes a couple of
those guys look like they're

864
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,700
going to be committing soon.
How do you feel?

865
00:50:25,700 --> 00:50:28,300
The Hokies sit with them as we
head into the beginning of fall

866
00:50:28,300 --> 00:50:30,300
Camp?
I think.

867
00:50:30,500 --> 00:50:34,700
Kavion Keys was a guy that in
the beginning of the cycle,

868
00:50:35,100 --> 00:50:38,300
seemed very receptive to a new
staff.

869
00:50:39,100 --> 00:50:43,100
Listening to Brent, pry,
listening to, you know, a lot of

870
00:50:43,100 --> 00:50:47,300
the guys on the coaching staff,
but I think as time has gone on

871
00:50:47,500 --> 00:50:51,600
and his status is kind of
elevated in terms of programs

872
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:56,100
pursuing him.
He seems like someone that, you

873
00:50:56,100 --> 00:51:01,100
know, I think I believe his
finalists are like Florida,

874
00:51:01,100 --> 00:51:07,000
Virginia Penn State is in there
and, you know, I would, I would

875
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,100
be shocked if he didn't pick.
Florida or Penn State at this

876
00:51:10,100 --> 00:51:12,500
point.
I think, you know, Virginia is

877
00:51:12,500 --> 00:51:16,200
really, really, really fighting
to stay in it with him.

878
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,100
But at this point I think he's
Florida bound.

879
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:23,600
I think, you know, they had a
shot and you know, not every

880
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:28,000
commit or sorry.
Not every Prospect is gonna, you

881
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:32,400
know, see the vision and say,
you know what, that's, that's

882
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,500
where I want to be.
He's someone that desperately

883
00:51:35,500 --> 00:51:39,500
wants to play Early, you know,
wants You know, kind of that

884
00:51:39,500 --> 00:51:44,000
feature linebacker and you know
that may not be the best fit at

885
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:47,200
Virginia Tech with Virginia Tech
love to have them thousand

886
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:51,300
percent.
But sometimes, you know, things

887
00:51:51,700 --> 00:51:55,400
don't always, you know, you
don't always see eye to eye and

888
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:58,300
I think that was kind of the
case there where he was feeling

889
00:51:58,300 --> 00:52:01,100
at Virginia Tech But ultimately
kind of cooled.

890
00:52:02,700 --> 00:52:08,100
Taylor's interesting to you know
Virginia Tech was in there.

891
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:13,500
He's another guy Speedster, but
it looks like he's going to go

892
00:52:13,500 --> 00:52:16,900
to South Carolina.
We have really good colleagues

893
00:52:16,900 --> 00:52:19,500
over there, and they have a ton
of great until he seems to be

894
00:52:19,500 --> 00:52:22,700
talking to talking up, a storm
with them all the time.

895
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:25,800
So I think, you know, that's
that's one.

896
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:29,400
Where okay, you know, Thomas
Williams, went Virginia Tech's

897
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,400
way.
Mellow Taylor's seems to be

898
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:37,500
going South Carolina's way.
Jordan bass is interesting.

899
00:52:38,900 --> 00:52:44,000
Right now I think it's pit
favored you know I would say a

900
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,200
couple weeks ago I'd say it was
50/50 right now I think it's

901
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:51,600
about 60 40 in terms of
Pittsburgh I'm not saying it's a

902
00:52:51,607 --> 00:52:55,100
done deal.
I still think there's there's an

903
00:52:55,100 --> 00:52:58,800
opportunity there but it does
seem at this moment that he's

904
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:02,400
favoring pit just from
everything I've gathered and

905
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:07,600
then Elijah Hughes he's probably
the most likely of these names

906
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:09,700
too.
I end up committing to Virginia

907
00:53:09,700 --> 00:53:13,100
Tech and even then it's still a
battle, he's going to be on

908
00:53:13,100 --> 00:53:17,700
campus this weekend, I believe
which is huge.

909
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:22,100
And, you know, he has other
stiff competition right now is

910
00:53:22,100 --> 00:53:25,200
from Stanford, you know, very
bright.

911
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:29,300
Kid, Stanford is kind of that
dream offer for him.

912
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:33,700
I think we might have said the
same thing about Dax hollifield

913
00:53:33,700 --> 00:53:35,100
back in the day.
Yep.

914
00:53:35,300 --> 00:53:37,900
You know, when you got that
Stanford offer and you know how

915
00:53:37,900 --> 00:53:42,500
to check Now it's tough to turn
them down and I think he's going

916
00:53:42,500 --> 00:53:44,000
through that same battle right
now.

917
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:48,600
I'm sure they'll have decks
right next to him or eating at

918
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:52,300
his table, this weekend, telling
him, you know what, I had stand

919
00:53:52,300 --> 00:53:54,800
for two, but Virginia Tech was a
place to be.

920
00:53:54,800 --> 00:54:00,000
So I think, you know, I'm more
favorable on Elijah, he's here.

921
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:05,500
But I think the other three are,
you know, with the exception of

922
00:54:05,500 --> 00:54:08,200
bass, I think they're, you know,
keys and tail.

923
00:54:08,300 --> 00:54:13,700
Juror heading out of c and then
bass Pittsburgh, or Virginia

924
00:54:13,700 --> 00:54:19,300
Tech for right now.
So let's ask this kind of

925
00:54:19,300 --> 00:54:21,000
piggybacking on this a little
bit.

926
00:54:22,300 --> 00:54:27,700
You know, when we look at some
of the defensive line prospects

927
00:54:27,700 --> 00:54:31,400
that we've been approaching, we
haven't had a whole lot of hits

928
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:36,400
this cycle is that getting
discouraging on your part or do

929
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:41,100
you think this is more just part
of a Growing process with this

930
00:54:41,100 --> 00:54:45,500
new staff as we kind of get some
of these relationships

931
00:54:45,500 --> 00:54:48,700
re-established.
Yeah, I definitely think that

932
00:54:48,700 --> 00:54:51,800
you know, some of the
frustrations have been

933
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:56,800
concentrated at that position,
you know, trying to get those

934
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:00,000
guys in and hey you're not going
to win every battle but it is

935
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,100
tough when you're facing an
uphill battle, that every

936
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:07,000
Prospect that's on your board is
you know, highly sought-after.

937
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,100
I think that highly A
sought-after.

938
00:55:09,300 --> 00:55:13,100
I think that's a testament to
the guys, they're recruiting but

939
00:55:13,100 --> 00:55:14,700
you have to start to win those
battles.

940
00:55:14,700 --> 00:55:19,000
And again we're you know, we can
we can talk in circles here and

941
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,100
say, you know, they have to
build those relationships.

942
00:55:21,100 --> 00:55:25,100
But that's kind of what's going
on right now and I think you

943
00:55:25,100 --> 00:55:27,800
know, they're doing a good job
of pitching but there are other

944
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:31,600
schools to with you know,
multiple years of experience,

945
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:34,800
talking to the same guys and
those relationships are

946
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:39,300
well-defined and sometimes it's
not just Enough to say, okay,

947
00:55:39,300 --> 00:55:43,100
where the NCAA program,
especially with the guy like

948
00:55:43,100 --> 00:55:46,300
bass, you know, but we'll see.
I still think there's a chance.

949
00:55:46,300 --> 00:55:50,800
They're cautiously optimistic, I
think is the right way to put

950
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:52,200
it.
So, we'll see.

951
00:55:52,700 --> 00:55:55,000
Let me ask about the best thing
because he's already took his

952
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:59,800
official bit.
How big is it that he hasn't

953
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:02,900
taken the official yet to Tech?
Is that one of those things

954
00:56:02,900 --> 00:56:05,700
where, if they feel like they're
losing, they try to push an

955
00:56:05,700 --> 00:56:11,000
official to like BC.
Night game early in the season,

956
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,700
the place is going to be
unbelievably electric.

957
00:56:14,100 --> 00:56:17,600
Is that potentially like what
they're waiting on to say?

958
00:56:17,900 --> 00:56:19,900
We won't you an official for a
game, we don't want you to

959
00:56:19,900 --> 00:56:23,700
official in the middle of summer
official on a game weekend,

960
00:56:23,700 --> 00:56:28,900
we're obviously, the goal should
be wherever pits playing.

961
00:56:29,100 --> 00:56:32,200
Put up that scene and then let
him walk in that stadium and

962
00:56:32,207 --> 00:56:34,000
say, you know, playing front of
that, are you want to play in

963
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,200
front of that?
Yeah, that would definitely

964
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:37,900
help.
I think the thing with him right

965
00:56:37,900 --> 00:56:43,200
now, It's he's still
contemplating, I'll have to

966
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:46,200
double check but I believe he
wanted to make a decision in

967
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,600
September.
I don't know if he put out

968
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:52,800
anything official yet but I
think Pittsburgh is trying to

969
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:56,600
get them.
Get the idea that hey, come

970
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,300
commit, you can focus on your
season.

971
00:56:59,500 --> 00:57:03,000
You could be with us, your SWAT
secure here where I think

972
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,400
Virginia Tech still needs a
little bit of time to work on

973
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,100
him and they're saying look
September's fine.

974
00:57:08,300 --> 00:57:11,900
Like you can, you can play your
season, you can come to a couple

975
00:57:11,900 --> 00:57:15,200
games, check out what we have.
We have 17, guys, in here, that

976
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:18,600
would love to meet you.
So, you know, he's in contact

977
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:22,600
with some of them but I think
it's kind of a push and pull

978
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,700
right now.
And that's a big thing in his

979
00:57:25,700 --> 00:57:27,700
recruitment right now.
All right?

980
00:57:27,900 --> 00:57:31,500
Let me ask this based on your
interactions based on

981
00:57:31,500 --> 00:57:35,100
conversations, you've had, not
only, you know, with with

982
00:57:35,100 --> 00:57:38,800
players.
But with other colleagues Coach

983
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:42,200
new to this staff has jumped out
to you and other people the most

984
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:45,000
on the trail.
I would definitely say fontelle.

985
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:49,200
Mine's just because I mean,
obviously it's easy to point at

986
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:52,700
him and say, look at, you know,
what he's done with Richmond,

987
00:57:52,900 --> 00:57:57,900
especially as of late, but he's
someone that I think, you know,

988
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:01,900
if I'm remembering correctly, he
was the last name added to the

989
00:58:01,900 --> 00:58:05,400
staff.
You know, he was he was a guy

990
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:09,800
that, you know, maybe they won't
say It publicly but you know

991
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:15,700
wasn't first considered you know
had to kind of get his shot and

992
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:19,100
I think that's kind of defined
him you know that Underdog

993
00:58:19,100 --> 00:58:25,500
mentality you know not
necessarily being the best at

994
00:58:25,500 --> 00:58:29,500
what he did when he was a player
but making it work at every

995
00:58:29,500 --> 00:58:31,000
stop.
He's been at you know,

996
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,900
Relentless worker.
He's a guy that builds

997
00:58:33,900 --> 00:58:40,000
relationships super easily and I
think Just a, you know, we knew

998
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:43,300
he was going to be a good
recruiter, but to get the early

999
00:58:43,300 --> 00:58:46,200
dividends, and then build out
from there.

1000
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:48,100
I think that's what's been so
impressive.

1001
00:58:48,100 --> 00:58:52,200
But, you know, I think we'll see
a lot more Richmond in future

1002
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:56,900
years and just what he's done so
far as a recruiter has been, you

1003
00:58:56,908 --> 00:58:59,800
know, exceptional to this class,
you know, it's contributions.

1004
00:59:00,100 --> 00:59:03,600
He's, you know, I would have to
check the the recruiter ratings

1005
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:06,800
but he's definitely number one
right now for Virginia Tech in

1006
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:11,300
terms of, you know, the Guys
that he was assigned to the guys

1007
00:59:11,300 --> 00:59:15,100
he's you know, taken under his
wing and said, we want you, here

1008
00:59:15,500 --> 00:59:17,900
he is.
The highest hit rate and you

1009
00:59:17,900 --> 00:59:20,300
know, he has, you know, the most
success right now.

1010
00:59:20,300 --> 00:59:23,200
So he's definitely standing out
to me.

1011
00:59:23,700 --> 00:59:26,000
I knew he was going to be
energetic and all that, but you

1012
00:59:26,008 --> 00:59:29,600
never know how that's going to
pay off and it certainly has so

1013
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:31,800
far.
Yeah, we knew he had the

1014
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:34,900
relationships, we just didn't
know how quickly that would

1015
00:59:34,900 --> 00:59:38,100
scale up right, right?
Making the jump to power 5.

1016
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:42,100
In recruiting at that level and
it's obviously translated pretty

1017
00:59:42,100 --> 00:59:44,600
quickly, so it's good to see
that.

1018
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,400
Yeah, I think, you know, as you
said he's done well, whether

1019
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,900
he's primary or secondary on lot
of the guys, he was working

1020
00:59:51,900 --> 00:59:54,800
with.
So the hit rate is pretty

1021
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:58,500
impressive, and hopefully we'll
see some more dividends pay off

1022
00:59:58,500 --> 01:00:00,100
as we continue through this
class.

1023
01:00:02,100 --> 01:00:04,500
Let's let's let's take it in
this direction.

1024
01:00:04,500 --> 01:00:09,400
Now though, in terms of just big
picture, the Hokies are

1025
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:14,400
currently sitting 35 in the
composite rankings. 32 according

1026
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:18,600
to the 24/7 ranking, is this
ahead of kind of where you

1027
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:22,100
thought this class was going to
be at this point.

1028
01:00:22,300 --> 01:00:26,000
Or are you surprised with where
the Hokies are?

1029
01:00:26,700 --> 01:00:28,200
I'll definitely say.
I'm surprised.

1030
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:33,100
I think, you know, when we first
spoke, I was expecting them to

1031
01:00:33,100 --> 01:00:36,400
kind of move up.
I think it's difficult to kind

1032
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:39,000
of take this class and compare
it to previous ones.

1033
01:00:39,300 --> 01:00:42,400
Just because with NI L like you
have Louisville, that's

1034
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:44,500
skyrocketing up the recruiting
rankings.

1035
01:00:44,500 --> 01:00:49,100
Texas Tech, you know, a lot of
these universities with big-time

1036
01:00:49,100 --> 01:00:52,300
donors or opportunities are
convincing guys to go to their

1037
01:00:52,300 --> 01:00:54,800
schools and it's kind of messing
up the flow.

1038
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:56,300
You're still going to have your
top dogs.

1039
01:00:56,300 --> 01:01:00,000
You're still going to have those
schools that you see, you know,

1040
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,800
in the top.
The kind of lockdown the spot.

1041
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:08,500
But to have Virginia Tech right
on the cusp pushing it and not

1042
01:01:08,500 --> 01:01:11,900
to mention that, you know, I do
think there are some players in

1043
01:01:11,908 --> 01:01:15,300
this class that once the season
rolls around, we'll be

1044
01:01:15,300 --> 01:01:19,200
re-evaluated bumped up could
potentially, you know, further

1045
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:22,900
put them up the rankings.
I think it's been impressive.

1046
01:01:22,900 --> 01:01:29,000
So far has been, you know, a
high volume of commitments but I

1047
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:30,800
think they've gotten a lot of
quality.

1048
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:34,900
Tea and some other guys that
could bump up but to see them at

1049
01:01:34,900 --> 01:01:37,100
35.
You know, that's where I was

1050
01:01:37,100 --> 01:01:39,300
expecting them to end the year.
They're going to have to put in

1051
01:01:39,300 --> 01:01:43,000
some work to round out the rest
of the class and, you know,

1052
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:47,700
throughout the season to hold on
to these guys but I think for a

1053
01:01:47,700 --> 01:01:53,900
first year head coach to have a
top 25 or sorry top. 35 class is

1054
01:01:53,900 --> 01:01:57,200
a success, a major success.
I thought they were going to be

1055
01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:01,500
in the top 50.
Some we're heading into Burr and

1056
01:02:01,500 --> 01:02:05,200
you know they're already, you
know blazing by that.

1057
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:10,200
So yeah, definitely surprised me
that it's a hap.

1058
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:13,000
It's a very happy surprise for
most of the hockey fans out here

1059
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:16,600
that from the end of the last
like where they held onto a good

1060
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:19,300
recruiting class roughly about
the same spot that's where they

1061
01:02:19,300 --> 01:02:21,700
are.
Roughly halfway through this

1062
01:02:21,700 --> 01:02:28,700
cycle and you know, we look
around and we see the non from

1063
01:02:28,700 --> 01:02:31,500
Virginia but the other thing
that's kind of been Impressive

1064
01:02:31,500 --> 01:02:33,800
and it's been a process
statement.

1065
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:38,100
Footprint footprint footprint,
you have a recruit from Georgia,

1066
01:02:38,100 --> 01:02:40,300
recruit from Indiana?
There's your outer reaches of

1067
01:02:40,300 --> 01:02:44,100
the six hours.
Maryland, North Carolina,

1068
01:02:44,100 --> 01:02:45,700
Pennsylvania, South Carolina,
Tennessee.

1069
01:02:45,700 --> 01:02:50,700
Virginia literally, they have
hit every state in the

1070
01:02:50,700 --> 01:02:54,500
footprint.
Every state in the footprint.

1071
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:58,400
Now, I'll ask this, you know,
you can see the commits there.

1072
01:02:59,700 --> 01:03:02,100
Where do you think we're going
to have the most success to

1073
01:03:02,100 --> 01:03:05,000
close out this cycle?
What state do you think they're

1074
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:08,700
going to get in in pop off?
Maybe someone that's a little

1075
01:03:08,700 --> 01:03:12,300
under the radar or maybe someone
who sees an opportunity next

1076
01:03:12,300 --> 01:03:15,900
year to say hi three started
saying, hey, I could probably

1077
01:03:15,900 --> 01:03:21,900
start next year with this staff.
Yeah I think I think we I was

1078
01:03:21,900 --> 01:03:25,700
expecting a little bit more out
of Maryland with the Tyler Bowen

1079
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:31,800
connections there but I think
Maryland and North Carolina are

1080
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:36,800
the two states to watch in terms
of specific names.

1081
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:40,400
I don't have many, but I will
say that, you know, they have

1082
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:46,200
been put, you know, putting a
lot of their efforts in North

1083
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:49,600
Carolina recently.
Kind of looking around there.

1084
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:54,400
So have a lot of feedback of new
offers coming out like pretty

1085
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:58,400
much every day about North
Carolina kids so I'm expecting

1086
01:03:58,400 --> 01:03:59,700
something to happen.
Open there.

1087
01:03:59,700 --> 01:04:04,400
I think there's you know there's
a there's a reason behind that

1088
01:04:05,100 --> 01:04:07,200
and that's for the cycle as
well.

1089
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:11,300
So I'm keeping my eye on North
Carolina.

1090
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:15,600
All right.
Now, I'm immediately going to

1091
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:22,700
the 24/7 North Carolina offer
page for Virginia Tech is one

1092
01:04:22,700 --> 01:04:23,800
while we're at that.
I know.

1093
01:04:24,500 --> 01:04:27,200
So, let's ask about Tennessee,
real quick.

1094
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:30,900
Because we saw Chris Parson, D
commits from Florida State.

1095
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:34,900
And, you know, I think at the
gate, we thought, okay, well

1096
01:04:34,900 --> 01:04:38,400
this, you know, there's probably
already a landing spot in play

1097
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:43,500
but we haven't seen Any movement
there we've seen a few tweets

1098
01:04:44,500 --> 01:04:47,300
come from him.
You know, Virginia Tech related

1099
01:04:47,300 --> 01:04:51,000
he did get the the re offer
right there after the be

1100
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:52,500
committed or just before the be
commitment.

1101
01:04:52,500 --> 01:04:57,000
I think if I remember correctly,
you know what's the story on him

1102
01:04:57,000 --> 01:05:01,100
at this point?
Yeah, I mean definitely a ton of

1103
01:05:01,100 --> 01:05:03,600
Interest.
I think Virginia Tech is

1104
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:08,100
monitoring but I think, you
know, there are some prospects

1105
01:05:08,100 --> 01:05:12,000
that, you know, know they can
get a lot of attention and And I

1106
01:05:12,008 --> 01:05:14,600
think they kind of use that to
their advantage.

1107
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:18,000
So I don't think there's
anything that is quite

1108
01:05:18,100 --> 01:05:23,300
materialize their that I know of
at least but definitely, you

1109
01:05:23,300 --> 01:05:27,000
know, I think, you know,
Virginia Tech would love to have

1110
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:28,800
him.
I mean, he's, he's a stud,

1111
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:31,300
right?
So we'll see.

1112
01:05:31,300 --> 01:05:34,100
But you know, as of right now I
don't think there's there's

1113
01:05:34,100 --> 01:05:37,400
anything really to solid there.
Gotcha.

1114
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:40,700
So probably a Mississippi State
lien then yeah.

1115
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:46,000
Good deal sec.
What can you do?

1116
01:05:46,300 --> 01:05:50,700
What can you do?
All right, so I'll pivot it this

1117
01:05:50,700 --> 01:05:54,600
way.
Let's talk about class sizes

1118
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:57,100
real quick.
The NCAA isn't capping.

1119
01:05:57,100 --> 01:06:00,600
The recruiting size for the
class for the next two years.

1120
01:06:02,100 --> 01:06:05,600
Do you see the Hokies taking
over 25 scholarship players?

1121
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:08,200
The next couple Cycles as they
try to rebuild this roster?

1122
01:06:09,300 --> 01:06:12,400
Yes, the the simple answer is
yes.

1123
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:16,200
And I think, you know, we talked
about that openness at the

1124
01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:19,900
beginning of the show.
The outward facing openness

1125
01:06:19,900 --> 01:06:26,000
about the weaknesses that is
evident within, you know, those

1126
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:30,100
rocks are conversations.
You know, there are some guys on

1127
01:06:30,100 --> 01:06:33,000
the roster that are pushing for
spots and, you know, they will

1128
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:37,600
be given ample opportunities.
But at the same time in order to

1129
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:42,600
build if you have the ability to
take more and and to, you know,

1130
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:46,000
prize a guy that can handle
those conversations and say, you

1131
01:06:46,008 --> 01:06:48,200
know, we've loved what you've
given us.

1132
01:06:48,300 --> 01:06:52,200
Maybe we're not for you.
You know, he's definitely going

1133
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:55,400
to try to take as much as
possible and I think you know to

1134
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:59,200
that point I think that's why
I'm a little surprised to see 17

1135
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:03,000
so quickly because we're going
to start to, you know, we're

1136
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:05,200
already approaching 20 pretty
soon.

1137
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:08,200
It's gonna, you know, start
creeping towards that 25 and

1138
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:11,100
then, you know, adding a couple
names at the end of the cycle,

1139
01:07:11,100 --> 01:07:14,900
there's always stuff that
happens always, you know, a cut,

1140
01:07:14,900 --> 01:07:18,600
we saw last cycle, you know, for
guys from Virginia that Chose

1141
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:20,200
the Hokies in the last two
weeks.

1142
01:07:20,300 --> 01:07:25,300
So there's always opportunities
there and, you know, I think the

1143
01:07:25,300 --> 01:07:28,200
coaching staff realizes they
need to get a lot of talent in

1144
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:30,300
there and they want to get some
of their guys.

1145
01:07:30,300 --> 01:07:33,600
And the best way to do it is
obviously through the recruiting

1146
01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:36,100
rankings building those
relationships, bringing them in

1147
01:07:36,100 --> 01:07:39,100
developing, but transfer portal
works as well.

1148
01:07:39,100 --> 01:07:42,900
So they're going to bring an
influx of talent for the next

1149
01:07:42,900 --> 01:07:45,500
few years.
I can only imagine, and really

1150
01:07:45,500 --> 01:07:48,100
reshape this and expedite that
process.

1151
01:07:49,700 --> 01:07:53,500
That sounds exactly like I
thought was because there's only

1152
01:07:53,500 --> 01:07:57,400
so many guys in the next two
seasons because of covid that

1153
01:07:57,400 --> 01:08:00,600
are gone that you're going to
push your guys in to your poor.

1154
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:03,600
You won't your guys in as you do
this rebuilding process.

1155
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:07,000
And so why not load up and get
close to 30?

1156
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:10,200
Maybe even over that number.
But let me pivoted.

1157
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:16,600
This next 2023, it was something
that excited the fanbase in some

1158
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:18,399
ways.
In some ways, it piss people off

1159
01:08:18,399 --> 01:08:21,899
with the loss of Of Miami as the
common opponent every year.

1160
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:26,500
But how do you think a division
has ACC is going to, or do you

1161
01:08:26,500 --> 01:08:28,600
think a division has a see?
He's going to have a positive

1162
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:33,500
impact on recruiting for the
Hokies and when I say that my

1163
01:08:33,500 --> 01:08:34,800
thought is we lost.
Miami.

1164
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:38,899
That sucks.
But we're going to play Florida

1165
01:08:38,899 --> 01:08:45,600
State, Clemson or Miami, every
year, every year, and there's

1166
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:48,800
many years we play both.
So, how big is that?

1167
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:53,800
That you Where we feel, we are
one of the top brands in the AC.

1168
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:56,100
He playing the other top brands
and how is that going to be

1169
01:08:56,399 --> 01:08:58,200
rooting?
I definitely think it's

1170
01:08:58,200 --> 01:08:59,800
important.
You know, I think when they did

1171
01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:01,700
the structure, it was
definitely, you know, for the

1172
01:09:01,700 --> 01:09:05,399
fans to kind of, to get the
opportunities to see some of the

1173
01:09:05,407 --> 01:09:09,000
schools that, you know, they
haven't really been able to see

1174
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:13,800
at home or away, but for
recruits to being able to play

1175
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:17,500
against Clemson, being able to
play against Florida State, you

1176
01:09:17,500 --> 01:09:19,600
know, we'll see where all this
realignment.

1177
01:09:19,700 --> 01:09:23,200
Tough goes.
But you know, there's if you're

1178
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:25,899
playing the top people, I mean
you're probably not pitching

1179
01:09:25,899 --> 01:09:31,399
about playing Boston College or
you know, your dukes but to play

1180
01:09:31,399 --> 01:09:35,899
some of the better competition
in the league and be able to

1181
01:09:35,899 --> 01:09:38,800
Showcase, you know, hey, we're
Virginia Tech.

1182
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:42,399
This is what we are in the ACC,
you know, there's a way to sell

1183
01:09:42,399 --> 01:09:44,899
that and I think, you know,
that's very important and I

1184
01:09:44,899 --> 01:09:47,300
think that they'll make a lot of
recruits excited.

1185
01:09:47,300 --> 01:09:50,600
I mean, I was down there when
Virginia Echoes playing Florida

1186
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:52,800
State in that atmosphere was
great, you know?

1187
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:55,500
And I haven't really gone.
The similar vibe from a lot of

1188
01:09:55,508 --> 01:10:00,400
the ACC schools that I went to.
So being able to be in those

1189
01:10:00,500 --> 01:10:04,300
Marquee type games, I think is
super important and I think

1190
01:10:04,300 --> 01:10:05,900
every recruit just wants to see
that.

1191
01:10:05,900 --> 01:10:09,000
You know, we were the team that
brought down this floor State.

1192
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:12,500
We were the team that beat
Clemson at you know, their

1193
01:10:12,500 --> 01:10:15,900
house, you know, even if those
things don't happen, you know,

1194
01:10:15,900 --> 01:10:17,900
that's the recruiting tagline
right there.

1195
01:10:18,500 --> 01:10:21,100
Yeah.
And To speak to another Point,

1196
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:26,000
Clemson aside.
There's not a lot of, you know,

1197
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:31,400
upper third ACC teams that have
good game day atmospheres.

1198
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:34,000
Right?
I mean, you know, UNC has been

1199
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:35,800
recruiting well but they don't
have a great game day.

1200
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:40,900
Atmosphere pit has zero
atmosphere but uh, it's not not

1201
01:10:40,900 --> 01:10:43,700
a great atmosphere.
I mean, all these schools that

1202
01:10:43,700 --> 01:10:47,700
have had some success of late.
I mean, probably NC State is

1203
01:10:47,700 --> 01:10:50,300
probably, you know, above
Average.

1204
01:10:50,500 --> 01:10:53,900
And I mean, they're finally
going to have a I think put

1205
01:10:53,900 --> 01:10:56,700
together a Good Year and be kind
of in that your top two or three

1206
01:10:56,700 --> 01:11:00,000
in the conference this year.
But you know, Clemson's real in

1207
01:11:00,300 --> 01:11:03,100
really the only team that's been
consistently at the top of the

1208
01:11:03,100 --> 01:11:05,500
league, that does have that game
day atmosphere.

1209
01:11:05,500 --> 01:11:07,700
That gets you excited for those
Road games.

1210
01:11:07,900 --> 01:11:11,100
So, it'll be nice to have some
more consistency with that.

1211
01:11:11,500 --> 01:11:14,700
Getting to play Florida State
more often, even Louisville has

1212
01:11:14,700 --> 01:11:18,200
a better atmospheric science.
Yeah, most of these other

1213
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:21,900
schools that we just mentioned
so So it'll be nice having some

1214
01:11:21,900 --> 01:11:28,300
more consistency there.
The other piece about recruiting

1215
01:11:28,300 --> 01:11:30,400
footprint, hot on one thing but
I know you're going to leave you

1216
01:11:30,407 --> 01:11:34,200
out there, but a lot of people
were pissed about Wake Forest.

1217
01:11:34,500 --> 01:11:37,900
A lot of people are pissed about
that, I actually liked it

1218
01:11:37,900 --> 01:11:40,900
because one reason, why?
And you can attest to this from

1219
01:11:40,900 --> 01:11:45,500
being a 24/7, for four years
that area of the Triad in the

1220
01:11:45,500 --> 01:11:49,400
general state of North Carolina
has been really good to Virginia

1221
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:53,800
Tech in the past couple decades.
So yes, we're mad.

1222
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:57,200
We don't get my anymore.
It's Because we play them

1223
01:11:57,200 --> 01:11:59,900
roughly for almost 30 years
consecutively.

1224
01:12:00,500 --> 01:12:03,500
But now you're going to get a
game in your backyard where you

1225
01:12:03,500 --> 01:12:04,700
can tell.
Think about it.

1226
01:12:04,708 --> 01:12:09,000
Trey Turner Hendon hooker.
Hey guys, we're playing just

1227
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:13,900
down the road every other year.
So your family can only come to

1228
01:12:13,900 --> 01:12:16,600
all the games in Blacksburg.
They're going to have one right

1229
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:20,000
at the back door.
And I like that, they kept us at

1230
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:22,500
least one North Carolina team on
there.

1231
01:12:23,500 --> 01:12:27,000
You know, maybe we can add some
teams and realignment and we can

1232
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:31,100
get into for they can have them.
Well, heard it.

1233
01:12:31,100 --> 01:12:36,000
Curtis Curtis you pitching.
Ron.

1234
01:12:37,500 --> 01:12:43,000
Brian you want out?
We lost you man.

1235
01:12:44,700 --> 01:12:51,500
Nothing All right.
Well, hang on.

1236
01:12:51,500 --> 01:12:53,700
I'll hear you.
But we good here.

1237
01:12:54,100 --> 01:12:56,500
We're doing it live here.
All right.

1238
01:12:56,500 --> 01:12:59,900
Sorry guys.
Sorry, let's Grant to it looks.

1239
01:12:59,900 --> 01:13:04,100
So like, it was so good.
Now was saying you, you pitched

1240
01:13:04,100 --> 01:13:12,000
it perfectly to me, then my mic
fucked me up speaking of

1241
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:17,000
realignment.
Yeah.

1242
01:13:17,900 --> 01:13:19,700
We pulled it off, a brought it
back.

1243
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:23,800
He said, the big topic of the
sports conference realignment.

1244
01:13:23,900 --> 01:13:26,300
It was the talk of ACC media
days.

1245
01:13:26,300 --> 01:13:29,000
It's been the talk of big.
The Big Ten media days.

1246
01:13:31,900 --> 01:13:36,200
What scenarios do you see as the
most important as the Hokies try

1247
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:40,700
to keep themselves in the
so-called tier one of college

1248
01:13:40,700 --> 01:13:44,300
football?
Yeah, I mean this stuff is like

1249
01:13:44,300 --> 01:13:47,300
so fascinating, I feel like I go
down the wormhole.

1250
01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:51,200
Every single day, like, looking
in the conspiracy theories and

1251
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:54,800
you know how to get out of, you
know, contracts and whatnot.

1252
01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:57,300
But I think that's a big thing
with the ACC right now.

1253
01:13:57,600 --> 01:13:59,200
They're kind of lame Ducks,
right now.

1254
01:13:59,900 --> 01:14:05,700
You know, they have the grant of
rights and I feel, I think

1255
01:14:05,700 --> 01:14:10,000
everyone's waiting for someone
to kind of push back on that.

1256
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:13,600
See if they can get away with it
and if one Domino Falls the

1257
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:16,100
rest.
Well, and I think, you know, as

1258
01:14:16,100 --> 01:14:22,000
Virginia Tech goes It's tough to
see where they would go because

1259
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:24,500
I get it.
A lot of fans I would say the

1260
01:14:24,500 --> 01:14:28,300
majority of fans would want to
see, you know, if it were a

1261
01:14:28,300 --> 01:14:32,500
possibility, Virginia Tech in
the SEC, but I think there was a

1262
01:14:32,508 --> 01:14:37,300
time period that, you know, the
schedule was carefully.

1263
01:14:37,300 --> 01:14:40,900
Crafted that there's a reason
there is a Wisconsin and

1264
01:14:40,900 --> 01:14:45,900
Michigan, a Penn State, a
Rutgers, you name it big ten

1265
01:14:45,900 --> 01:14:47,900
schools, coming to Blacksburg,
Virginia.

1266
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:51,400
Enya Tech going a big ten
schools, creating these kind of

1267
01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:55,000
mini series.
I think, you know the plan for

1268
01:14:55,000 --> 01:15:00,800
Virginia Tech was to get to the
Big Ten level eventually you

1269
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:03,700
know, way before all this
conference realignment stuff.

1270
01:15:04,700 --> 01:15:07,800
And I still, you know, that's
that's where I see Virginia Tech

1271
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:12,300
long-term kind of in that
category, maybe not an SEC, Tier

1272
01:15:12,300 --> 01:15:16,700
1 or tier 2, Big 10, or 1, a 1 B
whatever.

1273
01:15:18,100 --> 01:15:24,100
But I think you know someone if
it's a Clemson floor state is

1274
01:15:24,100 --> 01:15:27,000
may try something.
I think things are settling down

1275
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:29,500
right now just with lack of
movement.

1276
01:15:29,500 --> 01:15:33,200
I think the teams that were
going to leave left and now

1277
01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:36,300
everyone else is kind of like
waiting to see what the next

1278
01:15:36,300 --> 01:15:41,100
move is.
But yeah, I'm super fascinated

1279
01:15:41,100 --> 01:15:44,400
to see what happens.
But, you know, if the top dogs

1280
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:48,700
that we mentioned, leave the ACC
I don't I think Virginia Tech

1281
01:15:48,700 --> 01:15:52,900
will have some ways to figure it
out and, you know, I think

1282
01:15:52,900 --> 01:15:57,200
they'll be a commodity that can
be in either conference to be

1283
01:15:57,200 --> 01:16:00,700
quite honest.
You know, they're not a program

1284
01:16:00,700 --> 01:16:03,800
that's going to, you know, be at
the top of either list.

1285
01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:07,100
But you know, they're going to
bring a reliable and steady

1286
01:16:07,500 --> 01:16:09,400
presence.
And I think that's very

1287
01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:12,800
important and I think, you know,
the Big Ten especially they seem

1288
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:15,300
like the ones that are looking
at a bit more.

1289
01:16:15,900 --> 01:16:22,100
So Yeah, we'll see what happens.
But yeah I think the Big 10 is

1290
01:16:22,100 --> 01:16:23,700
kind of where I'm leaning right
now.

1291
01:16:23,900 --> 01:16:27,300
Yeah, the big piece with the
grant of rights is in the way

1292
01:16:27,300 --> 01:16:32,300
that they can get out of the
easiest is if 18s vote To

1293
01:16:32,300 --> 01:16:36,900
dissolve it and you sit here in,
are there, eight teams in the

1294
01:16:36,900 --> 01:16:44,200
ACC that could get offers from
the Big Ten and or the SEC and

1295
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:48,700
you sit here and you, you know,
Clemson, yeah, you do.

1296
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:51,100
I don't think the SEC would
blink at Clemson.

1297
01:16:51,100 --> 01:16:54,800
I don't think they blink it.
Florida State, I think Florida

1298
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:58,400
would Raise Hell about Miami.
They would not play them in the

1299
01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:01,700
90s Fourier would not play them.
He was a chicken.

1300
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:04,800
Ian is what you can say.
He was a chicken in the 90s

1301
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:07,200
because you wouldn't did not
want his Gators to go down to

1302
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:11,900
the Orange Bowl and then you get
an ass like Virginia Tech.

1303
01:17:11,900 --> 01:17:16,500
Like you said, not the biggest
but steady fan base, big markets

1304
01:17:16,500 --> 01:17:21,500
in d.c. good markets all over
the state of Virginia Which

1305
01:17:21,500 --> 01:17:28,300
neither SEC or Big Ten.
Have a big presence in Western

1306
01:17:28,300 --> 01:17:30,700
Carolina as well.
They yeah Southern.

1307
01:17:30,700 --> 01:17:31,500
Yep.
Carolina.

1308
01:17:31,500 --> 01:17:34,000
You got a part down?
There are there.

1309
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:36,300
But are there five?
Four more teams.

1310
01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:40,500
Do you want Duke football?
Because this is about football.

1311
01:17:40,500 --> 01:17:43,300
This is not about the ball.
And when you look at the value

1312
01:17:43,300 --> 01:17:48,100
of Duke basketball, there are
some mediocre football programs

1313
01:17:48,100 --> 01:17:52,200
that out, do Duke basketball.
So, Duke basketballs value.

1314
01:17:53,500 --> 01:17:55,800
Is it?
So it's high for what it is.

1315
01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:59,400
It's just it doesn't compete
with football rivalry football.

1316
01:17:59,700 --> 01:18:03,300
So if there's enough teams here
there, you know, speaking of

1317
01:18:03,300 --> 01:18:06,700
that, you've obviously you've
said it you were watching ACC

1318
01:18:06,700 --> 01:18:10,800
media days.
Do you think is there do you

1319
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:13,700
think 10 years from now 15 years
from now?

1320
01:18:13,700 --> 01:18:17,200
ACC still at Tier 1 conference?
I don't think so.

1321
01:18:17,300 --> 01:18:22,400
I think it's been pretty clear
recently that right.

1322
01:18:22,700 --> 01:18:27,400
I mean, they're either three or
four, but, you know, with how

1323
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:32,200
you know, TV revenue is being
spread with with how much

1324
01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:36,000
interest there is.
And, you know, even these again,

1325
01:18:36,100 --> 01:18:38,000
conspiracies, well, Virginia
Tech.

1326
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:42,200
Leave not will someone join the
ACC, will we get someone else,

1327
01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:46,400
you know, I think that kind of
speaks to the state of the ACC

1328
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:49,900
right now.
And not only that, but just to

1329
01:18:49,900 --> 01:18:54,500
see, you know, the And saying,
you know, we will be strong

1330
01:18:54,500 --> 01:18:57,100
together.
Everyone staying, you know, it's

1331
01:18:57,100 --> 01:19:01,100
kind of like, hold it grasping
on, you know.

1332
01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:06,700
And and so, yeah, I think I
think the ACC is number three

1333
01:19:06,700 --> 01:19:10,500
right now, just because the
Pac-12 you can get some of those

1334
01:19:10,500 --> 01:19:14,200
guys out of there and you can
kind of move it around and kind

1335
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:16,900
of, you know, absorb some of
those teams that are in there.

1336
01:19:16,900 --> 01:19:21,900
If you know the continue to do
some more realignment, the Big

1337
01:19:21,900 --> 01:19:24,600
12 lost Our top dogs.
Exactly.

1338
01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:27,100
So you're right there three
right now.

1339
01:19:29,100 --> 01:19:38,900
So the distant third, just a
video but we do not see a sense

1340
01:19:38,900 --> 01:19:43,700
of urgency because I think us as
Virginia Tech fans and ACC fans.

1341
01:19:44,900 --> 01:19:49,700
I would be calling Oregon and
Washington and Utah and Stanford

1342
01:19:49,700 --> 01:19:53,000
insane.
Listen, you guys add a lot of

1343
01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:57,500
value to our conference.
Probably, an extra, what 15?

1344
01:19:57,500 --> 01:20:00,500
Maybe 20 million a year per
school?

1345
01:20:00,700 --> 01:20:04,100
Because of the markets, they're
in, and you're not seeing that

1346
01:20:04,300 --> 01:20:06,700
or we don't feel like we're
seeing that, because it could

1347
01:20:06,700 --> 01:20:08,400
there be back room deals
happening?

1348
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:11,400
Absolutely.
Well, I mean the last the last

1349
01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:13,000
couple times something that's
happened.

1350
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:16,200
It came out of nowhere.
So the discussions are

1351
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:18,800
definitely happening.
Just are they happening with

1352
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:23,500
enough urgency?
And Pushing Us in the direction

1353
01:20:23,500 --> 01:20:27,600
where the ACC has has a life, is
the question.

1354
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:29,900
You know, you we know
discussions are happening.

1355
01:20:32,300 --> 01:20:34,900
The question is, is it the right
type of discussions?

1356
01:20:34,900 --> 01:20:39,300
And, you know, we watch Jim
Phillips press conference and

1357
01:20:39,300 --> 01:20:43,200
that did not, you know,
regardless of what's being said

1358
01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:47,900
behind the doors.
What was said out in public, did

1359
01:20:47,900 --> 01:20:51,100
not Inspire confidence in
people, that are hoping that the

1360
01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:58,900
CeCe is in it for the Long Haul.
Yeah, I mean it's a tough

1361
01:20:58,900 --> 01:21:02,200
situation.
Just feels like I do think those

1362
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:05,800
conversations are happening.
And I think if there is someone

1363
01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:09,200
to lead Virginia Tech in the
right direction, it is wet

1364
01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:11,600
Babcock.
And I think he's very aware of

1365
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:15,000
what's going on right now but
the good there's good and bad

1366
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:17,900
news.
The bad news is that Virginia

1367
01:21:17,900 --> 01:21:22,500
Tech is kind of you know like we
mentioned a couple steps down

1368
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:25,000
from those guys that are really
moving the needle.

1369
01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:28,100
I know that but the good news
that comes with that is that,

1370
01:21:28,300 --> 01:21:30,300
you know, they don't have to
make the first move.

1371
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:33,500
Virginia Tech doesn't have to go
out there and say you know what

1372
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:36,400
were the first to leave the ACC
we're going to deal with the

1373
01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:40,300
repercussions they can kind of
follow suit and they will you

1374
01:21:40,300 --> 01:21:44,700
know be a Suitor no matter what
like just looking at you know

1375
01:21:44,700 --> 01:21:49,600
the rest of you know everything
else outside the Big Ten and the

1376
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:53,400
SEC currently and you know
Virginia Tech is up there in

1377
01:21:53,407 --> 01:21:56,800
that Tier 1 of next.
Schools that you would love to

1378
01:21:56,800 --> 01:21:59,900
have in your conference.
So, you know, it's not the best

1379
01:21:59,900 --> 01:22:04,100
position to be in being in the
ACC but it's certainly not the

1380
01:22:04,100 --> 01:22:06,600
worst.
And you know I have confidence

1381
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:11,600
that this will all be sorted out
and you know, I don't think as

1382
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:15,300
much as we've seen an
acceleration on this recently

1383
01:22:15,500 --> 01:22:19,500
you know I think it will slow
down a little bit but certainly

1384
01:22:19,500 --> 01:22:23,000
these conversations will be
happening every single year.

1385
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:28,400
I mean I don't see the ACC You
know, for another 10-15 years

1386
01:22:29,300 --> 01:22:31,300
being what it is.
Now I think there's going to be

1387
01:22:31,300 --> 01:22:34,800
a lot of changes and you know,
I'm somewhat excited to see them

1388
01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:36,800
but also somewhat a little
nervous about them.

1389
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:41,600
So we'll see, let me ask you
this because this has been my

1390
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:45,200
concern.
I'm not as concerned if like two

1391
01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:49,100
weeks from now everything starts
to blow up because I feel like

1392
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:53,100
we would be somewhat High On
That pecking order.

1393
01:22:53,300 --> 01:22:54,700
We're not going to be first
here.

1394
01:22:54,700 --> 01:22:57,900
We might Maybe at the bottom,
bottom to middle of the second

1395
01:22:57,900 --> 01:23:00,900
tier of those programs that we
get picked up.

1396
01:23:00,900 --> 01:23:04,500
I think if you're saying
realignment is going to result

1397
01:23:04,500 --> 01:23:08,100
with, you know, between 40 and
48 teams, I think we're kind of

1398
01:23:08,100 --> 01:23:11,200
right on that, that cusp of
making the cut.

1399
01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:17,000
But my concern is that, with the
Pac-12 being extremely

1400
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:21,700
vulnerable and the Big 12 having
been in almost a state of

1401
01:23:21,700 --> 01:23:24,900
constant flux for the last
decade.

1402
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:31,100
Decade does the Big Ten, and the
SEC start scooping up.

1403
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:38,000
These other Big 10, Big, 12, and
PAC, 12 teams, and then all of a

1404
01:23:38,008 --> 01:23:42,200
sudden, Yeah, they're holding
paddle their expansion for a

1405
01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:46,600
wild once it's the acc's turn
and whether it's great of rights

1406
01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:51,100
that the is that firewall or
these, or any other reason does

1407
01:23:51,100 --> 01:23:54,000
the ACC kind of look like the
leftovers in.

1408
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:58,000
They only end up getting, you
know, the big boys and kind of

1409
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:01,500
leaving the those second-tier
programs in the dust.

1410
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:05,900
That's my concern, depending on,
you know, where they go, numbers

1411
01:24:05,900 --> 01:24:08,000
wise.
And What markets, they scooped

1412
01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:13,500
up and whether those Markets are
in terms of comparable with what

1413
01:24:13,500 --> 01:24:15,600
the Virginia markets in the
North Carolina markets can

1414
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:22,400
offer.
I think that's the worry piece,

1415
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:27,300
I think the, but I also think, I
don't think the Big Ten and I'm

1416
01:24:27,308 --> 01:24:28,800
going to just start going
through the school.

1417
01:24:29,300 --> 01:24:31,600
And I thought about talked about
this after it, I'll do right

1418
01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:33,900
here.
I don't think the Big Ten or the

1419
01:24:33,900 --> 01:24:42,900
SEC are going to go after Kansas
or Kansas State, or Arizona or

1420
01:24:42,900 --> 01:24:47,400
Cal, or Oregon State or Wazoo?
I don't think they're going to

1421
01:24:47,407 --> 01:24:51,700
go after Iowa State.
There are so many teams that

1422
01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:55,300
They're there.
They don't have a brand.

1423
01:24:56,300 --> 01:24:59,800
Or they don't have a branded
football per say and they don't

1424
01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:04,100
have a gigantic Market in and
why say you can say, well, what

1425
01:25:04,100 --> 01:25:06,100
about Baylor, what about
Oklahoma state?

1426
01:25:06,100 --> 01:25:10,500
They're really good.
The state of Oklahoma is locked.

1427
01:25:11,900 --> 01:25:15,200
The state of Oklahoma is locked
with Oklahoma, going to the SEC

1428
01:25:15,900 --> 01:25:20,400
Oklahoma state is probably about
where we are, maybe a little bit

1429
01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:22,800
lower.
So that's where you have to

1430
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:24,500
start doing.
You have to start saying, who's

1431
01:25:24,500 --> 01:25:30,200
above you, who's below you?
And I think what goes even more

1432
01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:32,000
important.
This kind of last question as we

1433
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:36,900
wrap it up here.
How important is to stay a tier

1434
01:25:36,900 --> 01:25:41,300
1 program for Virginia Tech's
ability to recruit Talent from

1435
01:25:41,300 --> 01:25:45,200
anywhere?
I think it definitely is

1436
01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:50,600
important but in the sense of
recruiting and and making things

1437
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:54,800
work, I you know, at least for
the time being like, these

1438
01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:59,600
aren't super big conversations
right now.

1439
01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:03,700
In terms of what recruits are
being told, like realignment is

1440
01:26:03,700 --> 01:26:08,400
often not coming up and if it
does come up, you know, it's the

1441
01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:12,400
promise of Virginia Tech will be
fine and will, you know, be

1442
01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:16,500
playing Stiff competition week
in and week out, I don't expect

1443
01:26:16,500 --> 01:26:21,200
a scenario where, you know, it's
Appalachian State Duke, you

1444
01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:24,200
know, Boston College as the
leftovers, right?

1445
01:26:24,500 --> 01:26:25,800
Virginia Tech, we'll figure it
out.

1446
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:30,600
But, you know, to that point I
think being in the conversations

1447
01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:34,200
with those big teams is
definitely important.

1448
01:26:34,300 --> 01:26:38,100
And, you know, they want to
recruit guys that want to

1449
01:26:38,108 --> 01:26:41,300
represent, Virginia, first and
foremost, but when they're

1450
01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:46,400
getting other guys out of state,
You know, they want them to also

1451
01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:50,600
be in that big game atmosphere,
so I think it's important to be

1452
01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:54,400
a tier 1, but I think, you know,
it's the recruiting world will

1453
01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:58,200
make it work, no matter what.
Definitely don't Envision a

1454
01:26:58,200 --> 01:27:02,400
scenario where, you know, the
recruiting pitches anything

1455
01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:04,300
about being a tear to school,
you know?

1456
01:27:04,700 --> 01:27:10,100
So did the comments from?
I know.

1457
01:27:10,100 --> 01:27:15,700
Kevin Warren was talking a lot
about The, you know, we're

1458
01:27:15,700 --> 01:27:18,000
pushing forward.
We're adapting, we're moving.

1459
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:20,500
I feel like that in contrast
with what Jim Phillips was

1460
01:27:20,500 --> 01:27:24,000
saying, kind of stood out to me,
which has to be a little

1461
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:27,500
concerned about.
Will there be more continued

1462
01:27:27,500 --> 01:27:31,900
fleecing of the Pac-12?
Or does the Big Ten already have

1463
01:27:31,900 --> 01:27:33,900
their sights set on an ACC
school?

1464
01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:38,000
Yeah, I mean, one school, we
kind of left out on this.

1465
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:42,400
Which personally I think is kind
of the bottleneck is no.

1466
01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:44,500
Dane, what happens with Notre
Dame?

1467
01:27:44,500 --> 01:27:45,900
Are they going to join the Big
Ten?

1468
01:27:46,100 --> 01:27:50,000
Are they going to go to the SEC?
You know, I think once they if

1469
01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:53,300
they decide, you know, we no
longer want to be an independent

1470
01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:57,700
and, you know, all of a sudden,
you know, let's just, you know,

1471
01:27:57,700 --> 01:28:01,400
say that they go to the Big Ten
does the SEC then say, okay.

1472
01:28:01,700 --> 01:28:05,200
We want to grab a couple more
schools to bolster our Network.

1473
01:28:05,600 --> 01:28:08,200
I think that's where it really
gets started.

1474
01:28:09,100 --> 01:28:12,400
And that's, that's going to be
the position where, okay.

1475
01:28:12,500 --> 01:28:14,700
So, how do you get out of this
grant of rights?

1476
01:28:14,700 --> 01:28:18,200
How do you possibly leave this
conference and become a free

1477
01:28:18,200 --> 01:28:19,800
agent?
You know, it's like the transfer

1478
01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:25,000
portal just for for college
institutions, but the deals that

1479
01:28:25,300 --> 01:28:28,700
that you're hearing, that the
Irish are going to get because

1480
01:28:28,700 --> 01:28:31,400
they're about to go re-up in the
new TV negotiations.

1481
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:34,200
If they keep the agreement with
the ACC, which is going to be

1482
01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:37,100
about 12 to 15 million a year,
they're talking about them,

1483
01:28:37,100 --> 01:28:41,200
getting 75 to 90 million
dollars, they're going to be in

1484
01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:45,300
the SEC and big tent here so
they could look at them and say

1485
01:28:45,400 --> 01:28:47,600
who cares?
CBS is going to give us 80

1486
01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:49,100
million.
We're going to keep our

1487
01:28:49,100 --> 01:28:51,900
partnership with the ACC, we're
going to be where you guys are

1488
01:28:52,100 --> 01:28:53,200
plus.
We're Notre Dame.

1489
01:28:53,500 --> 01:28:57,000
Plus our sales of online
merchandise is going to be

1490
01:28:57,000 --> 01:28:58,800
higher than just about anyone in
the country.

1491
01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:02,800
So that five million dollar Gap,
we can make up, maybe they,

1492
01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:05,200
maybe this is the best thing
that ever happened to Notre.

1493
01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:08,700
Dame staying independent, is
these outrageous TV contracts,

1494
01:29:09,100 --> 01:29:13,700
where they might, Maybe I'm dumb
to say this, they might get a

1495
01:29:13,700 --> 01:29:18,800
10-year billion dollar deal just
for them and I don't think any

1496
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:24,600
of us would be surprised.
Yeah, that's that's my thing.

1497
01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:27,900
And like potato said, I think
that's the Domino waiting to

1498
01:29:27,900 --> 01:29:29,200
fall.
What does Notre Dame?

1499
01:29:29,200 --> 01:29:35,100
Do I think a lot of especially
ACC schools, I think are trying

1500
01:29:35,100 --> 01:29:40,200
to see if they can somehow lure
Notre Dame into the ACC.

1501
01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:45,200
I feel like that's the acc's
last best card to play is

1502
01:29:45,700 --> 01:29:48,400
somehow convincing Notre Dame to
join the ACC.

1503
01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:51,500
I do not see it happening but I
feel like that's the that's the

1504
01:29:51,500 --> 01:29:56,500
hope that a lot of DieHard ACC
fans are holding onto because if

1505
01:29:56,500 --> 01:30:00,700
you can get Notre Dame that will
not only help your own media

1506
01:30:00,700 --> 01:30:06,500
deal but it'll give you some
additional markets to play with

1507
01:30:06,800 --> 01:30:09,600
on the football side.
There's just so much that

1508
01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:14,600
getting them even just on a
Prestige side of the

1509
01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:17,100
conversation that that Notre
Dame would bring to the table

1510
01:30:17,100 --> 01:30:21,400
from a football perspective but
I just don't see it happening.

1511
01:30:21,400 --> 01:30:24,000
I think geographically.
I know that doesn't matter

1512
01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:26,500
anymore but Notre Dame's have
better fit, the Big Ten,

1513
01:30:26,500 --> 01:30:30,400
geographically, they don't
matter anymore, it doesn't

1514
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:32,500
matter.
I'm not saying those but just

1515
01:30:32,600 --> 01:30:36,500
wasn't a decade ago.
Again, it doesn't anymore but I

1516
01:30:36,508 --> 01:30:42,200
think that's still for so long.
They did have a, you know,

1517
01:30:42,500 --> 01:30:44,600
robbery games with a lot of the
Big Ten Schools.

1518
01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:47,700
They're obviously that shifted
with the with the deal with the

1519
01:30:47,700 --> 01:30:52,700
ACC.
But you know I just I don't see.

1520
01:30:52,800 --> 01:30:59,800
see, Notre Dame committing to
the ACC mainly because The acc's

1521
01:30:59,800 --> 01:31:02,700
media deal pales in comparison
to the big tent.

1522
01:31:02,700 --> 01:31:06,600
If they're, if they're taking a
chance on the conference,

1523
01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:08,900
they're going to take one where
their payout is better.

1524
01:31:09,500 --> 01:31:13,400
Yeah, percent ultimate a man.
It's been awesome.

1525
01:31:13,400 --> 01:31:15,900
Having you here, it does not
feel like we've been talking for

1526
01:31:15,900 --> 01:31:19,100
90 minutes, guys, but we have
been talking for over 90 minutes

1527
01:31:19,100 --> 01:31:22,400
now.
Matej, give them where you're

1528
01:31:22,400 --> 01:31:26,000
at, where they can catch you.
Yeah, come to VT scoop.

1529
01:31:26,000 --> 01:31:29,500
Check us out.
We are rolling back into Seasons

1530
01:31:29,500 --> 01:31:34,000
a little over a month away.
So tons of content coming out.

1531
01:31:34,800 --> 01:31:40,200
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1532
01:31:40,900 --> 01:31:44,200
Last time I was on here guys I
promise to Commitment coming in

1533
01:31:44,200 --> 01:31:48,100
the next week turned out that it
took about two weeks after that.

1534
01:31:48,100 --> 01:31:51,800
So not no promises.
This is all right.

1535
01:31:51,800 --> 01:31:54,300
We do have a hokie Fest on
Friday.

1536
01:31:55,000 --> 01:31:59,000
Some guys Elijah Hughes will be
down there, a bunch of Aunt,

1537
01:31:59,000 --> 01:32:01,500
Regina Tech.
Commits will see if something

1538
01:32:01,500 --> 01:32:03,800
comes out of that again.
No promises.

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But could be some news coming up
and if you want to find out all

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the latest on that and just you
know, the behind-the-scenes kind

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of what's going on, come to V2
scoop and check it out.

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Definitely check them out.
On VT, scoop, Braun, anything

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breaking as far as other things?
I think we're clear, man, we're

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ready to sign it off, man.
All right, well that wraps up

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this episode Sort of the
boundary Corner podcast with our

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guest metathesis on Curtis
Wilson.

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I'm Brian Sigler.
Visit our website.

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Boundary corner bt.com/community
all of our episodes while you're

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there.
Don't forget to follow us on

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Twitter.
Facebook, Instagram, subscribe

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01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:47,400
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01:32:47,400 --> 01:32:51,800
including Spotify, Amazon and
apple Cod cast is always we let

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01:32:51,800 --> 01:32:54,900
our buddy Jason long, he plays
assume he plays this out.

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01:32:54,900 --> 01:32:58,200
Check him this Saturday at the
Grand and Village Farmers Market

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01:32:58,300 --> 01:33:00,400
down.
In Roanoke, and he's got two

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events.
The next weekend, August 5th,

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01:33:03,100 --> 01:33:04,700
he's going to be a big league
Brewing.

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01:33:04,900 --> 01:33:08,300
Big Lick Brewing Company, down
in Roanoke, with his old

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01:33:08,300 --> 01:33:11,600
bandmate Weiland Hatchet.
They play some damn good music.

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If you're down there, and then
he's going to be an outer space,

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August 6 down in Floyd County.
We thank you, as always for

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listening and let's go okay's.

Matej Sis

247 Sports Writer

Matej is a Writer for 247Sports.com's VTScoop. He joined the staff as a Sophomore while attending Virginia Tech and has worked there ever since. He primarily focuses on VT Football, but has coverage on VT Basketball as well. He also helps with recruiting coverage.

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