In this episode we take a deep dive into the BOV athletics department budget proposal and the implications it has for the program, the athletic director, and Virginia Tech's place in the college football landscape. We also briefly recap the Wofford victory and make our Big Screeners picks of the week.

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But Brian, we've got to know the
enemy.

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Let's tell the truth about
Saturday.

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A win.
A win.

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Again, what is that?
Wait, what is that?

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We had had one since on
Thanksgiving weekend last year.

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You know, Hokies take care of
the Wofford Terriers by a final

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score of 38 to 6.
What went well?

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We won, Brian.
We we got to win.

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There's there's a nice little
one in the the left hand column

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there.
Yeah, I mean that, that that's

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really it.
And I think, you know, we went

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out there and I don't think we
looked great, but I, I think we,

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we, we.
Never looked?

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Go ahead.
What were you going to say?

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One play that looked great,
Kumari Copeland, is set to look.

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Great.
Oh yeah, right.

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Oh yeah.
I mean, Kumari Copeland is is

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showing that he is the the real
deal.

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He is legit.
He is the guy we thought he is.

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He's not just a weight room
warrior.

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He is going out there and making
some noise on that defensive

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line and making plays in
general.

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So I'm excited about that.
I think I think the, you know,

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the defensive line is definitely
been the overall stand out,

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especially I think the interior,
which is probably what we were a

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little little more concerned
about.

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But they've they've fleshed out
and they've they've looked

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really good really for the
duration.

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I think, you know, we've got
some question marks elsewhere on

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the defense, but those guys have
shown out, showed up and, you

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know, I'm excited to see if we
can take some of that

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consistency and a little bit of
that positive.

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You know, it, it was, it wasn't
a a pretty win, but it wasn't an

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ugly win.
It was just, it was just a win.

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But if we can take some of that
momentum into the NC State game,

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it's true, 'cause you get a
little confidence with the win.

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There, there's always confidence
brewing.

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I'll tell you the other thing
that I felt like went well and

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into that a confidence
perspective was how many people

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played on offense. 8 different
ball carriers, 11 players with

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receptions.
Now don't look at the the couple

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of them, don't look next to it.
They're next to the name for the

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yards.
Couple of them got negative or

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very little.
But to me it's that shift to

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basically say we're not going to
stick with something.

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We mentioned the loyalty piece.
If we think you can play, we'll

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go out and play.
And this was a game to do that,

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right?
Well, it's a game you have to do

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that.
And I, I was hoping that we were

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going to be able to get to some
of these guys earlier, you know,

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particular at the quarterback
position.

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But we didn't.
And ultimately, but we, we did

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get a lot of guys involved in
the backfield in the wide

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receiver position.
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So we, we got to empty the chest
a little bit.

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We probably didn't get to empty
the chest as quick as we would

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have liked, but again, a wins a
win.

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And I think there are some
positives to take away from this

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game.
You know, I think there's

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positives from a fan base
perspective.

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You know, I, I was happy to see,
as much as I was concerned about

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it, I was still happy to see
folks show up for that game, for

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the for the stadium to look
mostly filled.

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I know it wasn't a sell out, but
you know, there wasn't an

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embarrassment in the stands like
I think a lot of people were

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expecting.
And I think some of that is the

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fact that there was movement
after ODA.

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So there there was stills like,
OK, well, you're, you're, you're

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doing something.
You're, you're, you're, you're

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getting the ball rolling on what
we need to do and where we need

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to go with this.
We'll come out of here.

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We're we're we're going to stick
with you and, and see this thing

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through.
So, yeah, I, I, I, I, I don't

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really have a, a lot of done a
ton of, of, of what went well,

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but I think enough went well
where you maybe get a little bit

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of confidence going in the NC
State.

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I think that's important.
Yeah, because you know what went

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well, there's always what went
bad and a we did not cover and

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because, you know, great teams
cover.

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But I think the struggle with me
and again, the way I watched

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this game, had a birthday party
going on, had baseball going on.

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I'm I'm listening in in the car,
I'm following my game.

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I get back home, I watch a
little bit of it here.

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I come back, I watch some
condensed version, I watch some

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other version.
I was all over watching this

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game made my head spin.
But what pissed me off and this

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is where I get so frustrated and
it seems like it's a lot with

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this team is we get inside the
10 and we and we stalk if we had

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not stalled the first drive of
the game where we go for it,

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which I'm fine with going for
it.

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That's fine.
Points off the board.

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There's more stalls later in the
game when I think John kicked

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what like a it was like a 20
yard field goal something.

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Like that?
Yeah, 20 yard field goals being

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you were inside and that's just,
that's just frustrating because

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it's like this is a FCS team.
You should be able to push it

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into the end zone.
Yeah, and I think, you know,

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you, you talk about the stall
drives and that's, it's not just

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something that reared its head
in this game.

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That's been a problem for this
team all year.

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It it, it's, it's been a problem
for a few years.

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And when we look back, I mean,
we, we talked about, you know,

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for all of Tyler Bowen's faults,
the, the one thing he wasn't

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afraid to do was he, he
understood that we weren't a

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good red zone team And he'd,
he'd dial up some funky shit to

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get us in the end zone when we
got in the red, red area and,

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and the scoring area, it didn't
always work.

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It was very boom or bust.
But at least he wasn't afraid

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to, to dial it up and see what
happens because we have been

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very poor at completing drives.
And it's not just the short

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yardage stuff.
It's really everything like

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once, once the area to work with
gets condensed, we do not do a

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good job of just imposing our
will offensively.

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Mentality talked about that last
week too Toughness, man, I know

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this one I wish Tally was here
but he's not I know Tally texted

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you me.
You kind of agreed with it.

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There were times, though, still
we look sloppy.

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We looked undisciplined on both
sides of the ball and I don't

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think that's something that's
just going to change.

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I think that's something we have
to live with this year.

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This year, yeah, absolutely.
You know, I think there are,

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there are things you can do to
improve as the year goes along,

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but it's going to be kind of
incremental.

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It's not going to be night and
day.

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You're not going to all of a
sudden wake up and Oh, well,

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we're no longer sloppy and
undisciplined.

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Like there's, there's going to
be, you know, incremental steps

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as you can take throughout the
year, whether it's better,

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better practice habits, you
know, whether there's something

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new implemented during practice
that, you know, puts an emphasis

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on, you know, certain types of,
you know, whether it's

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penalties, whether it's false
starts, things like that.

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Yeah.
Speaking for myself, I mean all

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false starts.
Are they they shouldn't.

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They shouldn't happen, man.
It it it Paul starts to be your

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all mental.
It's all mental.

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And if you if you aren't able to
handle the mentality at this

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point in time, I don't know what
to do with you.

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It's true.
So.

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Yeah.
All right.

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Last thing, you already
mentioned about the backup

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quarterbacks getting to play up
and maybe that's just they're

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trying to build Karen's
confidence up because he is

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going to be the guy.
I think he, I think Pop and

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Rangel should have got time in
the 3rd and the 4th.

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I think the game was well in
hand but at least they played

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because a lot of kids did not
play.

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Now Montgomery was straight up
with it and he didn't mention

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which kids which I am fine with,
but he said some of the guys out

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were injury concerns.
Other guys they are having the

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portal red shirt decisions with
and it was it was big names on

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here, biggest being Caleb
Woodson and Quinton Reddish,

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Sherrod Coble, Christian Ellis,
Caleb Brown, Taki Heath, Johnny

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Garrett, Keelan Adams, Chan's
yeah, Brody Cornerstaller and

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Sherrod Henderson.
And and to me that's and I'll

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say it's bad, but the statement
that Montgomery made after was

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not bad because it wasn't just
they're working through some

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things or some things are going
on.

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But he just straight up said he
didn't tell you who.

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Some people are hurt and some
people were having talks with,

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but it sucks in that it's it's
happening.

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Well, we, we know it was going
to happen and like, like, you

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know, as we said, we were
talking with Evan just a little

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while ago, like we don't know
what these, what are actual

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starting line UPS going to look
like this week because of those

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discussions, right?
Like we know what the depth

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chart is, but we don't know how
many of those players are going

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to be available.
You know, it's, it's one of

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those things that you expect
with a coaching change.

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What you're concerned about is
that do you have enough guys

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behind them to go out there and
be competitive?

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Because I think that's what we
want to be the rest of the year.

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We want to be competitive in
these games.

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We want to show that, you know,
there's fight in the in this

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team, that there's fight to, you
know, put the best product out

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there that we can.
As we work through the remaining

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games on the schedule, I think
the expectations for anything,

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even even a bowl, are really out
the window at this point.

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It's really about just going out
there and being competitive week

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in, week out and let the chips
fall where they may.

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And, and, and I'll make this
safe if we make a ball.

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First of all, Philip Montgomery
is not going to be the head

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coach unless he literally wins
out 9 + 1 + 13 in a row.

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That's the only way he becomes
head coach.

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But if he gets the team to a
bowl, there is going to be AG5

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school, maybe even a lower level
P5 school, P4 school.

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I think he gets a call if we
make a ball, but I'm not

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foreseeing that.
I, I, I don't feel like that's

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happening this year.
Let's go real quick, Brian.

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Anything that you weren't
prepared for when you started

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watching the game or I can't
remember if you were watching

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live.
No, you were on travel so you

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had to watch the recorded
version and on anything when you

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started seeing like.
Interesting.

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I I was surprised that we didn't
take more calculated risk with

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the football in the passing
game.

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There were, there were a lot of
taking what we were given.

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And I get that, you know,
they're, they're, they're,

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they're making sure that they're
not getting beat deep.

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I get that.
But at the same time you got to

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work the intermediate area, you
got to be able to push the ball

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down field.
I felt like there was a lot of

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check downs, particularly the
running backs, a lot of running

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backs involved in the offense,
which isn't a bad thing, but I

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feel like there was yards on the
field that we surrendered.

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Because you know, when we look
at the way this offense is

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running right now and it has run
under Kyron, is that there are

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periods where Kyron is maybe a
little too risk averse.

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And then when he feels like he
needs to press, he presses and

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and does too much and takes too
many risk with the football.

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And we haven't really been able
to find that happy medium where

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those risks are calculated.
Those risks are within the

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framework of the offense, but
they're still good plays to make

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because as long as you're
accurate with the football, it's

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a safe throw to make as long as
you put it on the right spot of

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the receiver.
Well, Speaking of that something

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and this, this came from
Shelton.

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Shelton messaged this to us and
he couldn't make the show, but

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he said mention this some of the
he did make some good RPO

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throws.
He was accurate with the check

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downs.
He gave just about on most of

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his check down throws.
He gave everybody an opportunity

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to get a field especially PJ
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But the question is can he do
that as we get to a higher level

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in as much as Evan talked about,
you know, their struggles, it is

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a better team in NC State.
So with that, but I think

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something I noticed Brian and I
asked you to look at it, there

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were a.
Little bit of wrinkles.

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A little bit of different
formations, a little bit of

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different way the wide receivers
were lined up, which we have not

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seen in the first three weeks.
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because it was Wofford or is
that because the head coach is

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now the offensive coordinator.
But I did notice that and and I

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don't know what that means.
That could just be something

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they've been working towards,
right?

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I mean, you used to mention
there used to be plays you guys

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would have and you'd you'd work
on it for like a month and then

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finally pull it in a game.
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I mean, you're going to have
these plays that either are

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you're kind of setting up for a
particular defense that you see

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on your schedule.
It could be that.

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It could be you want to add in
some new wrinkles as you move

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throughout the year because you
want to give different teams

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different things to see on film.
You want to have a little

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something up your sleeve that
every team you're playing hasn't

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seen.
So you're usually going to have

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one play or one formation, or
yes, running, running the same

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plays out of a couple different
formations or with different

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motion.
You're going to see those things

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get implemented as the season
goes along just to give you a

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different looks and and make
sure that, you know, folks

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aren't able to Telegraph what
you're trying to do just because

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they watch the film.
So I mean, Wofford's a good,

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good way to put put some of that
out there because you can kind

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of run a test run of some of
these new things without, you

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know, as much pressure on you to
to execute.

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And so, you know, seeing some of
those play out, OK, I think

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that's that's a good thing.
Obviously, now they're on their

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own film.
So NC State gets to watch that.

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But hopefully we got a couple
new things up our sleeve that

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Montgomery's going to pull out
and we can we can take advantage

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of that porous defense down
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Yep.
So again, we will see that

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Brian, let's do this because I,
I don't know if Tyler's going to

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jump on or not.
What's your key Saturday?

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Yeah, it was a good seeing Gabe
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It'd been about a year.
That was a good I was, he took a

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good angle, got a good chase
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I, I, I like seeing him getting
some action in there.

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That was really good.
Really, really, really happy for

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that kid.
You know, regardless of what,

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you know what happens, you know,
after the end of the season,

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Good to see him getting out
there and, you know, doing his

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thing.
Man keys, man keys.

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You're going to have to score
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This this isn't going to be a
team that's going to go out

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there and you know, like a South
Carolina and, and put up, you

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know, a, a, a low 20 number.
I think this team is going to

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hit 30 against our defense.
So we're going to put up some

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points.
All right, I'm, I'm kind of with

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you on that.
I, I, I don't think we can

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completely stop Hollywood's
mothers.

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It's limit to big ones though,
you know, they're really good,

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10 to 20.
If you tell me the biggest 1 he

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got all night was in that range,
I feel better about our chances.

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Especially you start getting
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more than 40s.
Those are just killer.

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So that's my thing.
Limit the big plays.

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Unfortunately, unless they told
you, they did not tell me what

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they thought.
So I'm going to leave Shelton

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and Tally's predictions off
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I'll go with mine first.
I do think we compete better in

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this game, but with the way the
offense is played for most of

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this season and the way NC
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of the season, I just can't see
us keeping up.

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I think they either they jump on
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I think it's a we, we lose back
12, I say 3523.

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And it all depends on the
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Could we stand there and trade
blows until the fourth quarter

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and then maybe they get a couple
late scores?

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Yeah.
Could they just jump out on us

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early out of OODU?
Yeah.

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But I I, I cannot see a win in
this game.

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Yeah, I don't see a win either.
I'm in the same ballpark as you.

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Give me give me 3627.
I think I think we'll we'll

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we'll score some points.
I don't think that's a very good

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defense.
I don't think they're

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significantly better than even
what we saw with with Wofford

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based on obviously talent is
there talent is much better.

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But I think Wofford is a more
sound defense and and definitely

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we're playing not to not to get
beat on the big plays against

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us, whereas I think we'll be
able to hit some big plays on NC

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State with that inconsistency.
We'll just have to see if we can

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have enough compared to what
they'll be able to get on our

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end. 100% All right, Well,
Brian, let's get to some of the

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news and notes before we jump
into big screeners here.

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And it all started Saturday
morning.

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I don't know how you heard it or
when you heard it, but we got

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some of the news we kind of been
expecting.

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And to Virginia Tech's luck, it
was on college game day and

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that's where Pete Thamel
basically said there was an 50

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million coming down for Virginia
Techs in the athletic funds.

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It's stuff we had felt is going
to be coming down based on the

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WIT meeting back in August and
everything transpiring.

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But then lo and behold, few days
later, everything shout out,

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Doug Bowman, Andy Bitter, Colby,
everybody who was getting that

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stuff.
And I know you've got it up

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here, Brian, but you heard it
Saturday, you see it a few days

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later.
You know the BOV means a week

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from yesterday.
What was just your feelings just

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looking at all that information?
I mean, you love seeing the

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commitment.
I'm, I'm hoping that we're able

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to see all of this through, but
seeing the commitment and seeing

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the.
We are dedicating and and

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focusing on reaching 200 +
1,000,000 over the next 4 fiscal

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years.
You know, starting with fiscal

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year 27 will be above 200
million, getting to 190 in

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fiscal year 26.
This is a big deal.

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It, it puts you in a very
competitive space, not only in

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the ACC, but looking at a
national product.

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It, it puts you to very
competitive space in that, in

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that front as well.
In, in a space we really haven't

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been for a very long time, 15
years, 15 years.

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And really in terms of being
this competitive, you know,

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probably going back to when
Beamer had flirtations with UNC

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and the, you know, the
allocations that he got as a

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result of that is probably the
last time we would be this

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competitive nationally on a
financial front.

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So that's exciting.
As we said earlier, I think

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we've got the money now where we
can go out and get get a coach

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both from a financial commitment
and from a structural commitment

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that you won't turn us down like
we had a bunch in the last, last

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go round.
So yeah, I'm excited about this.

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I think, you know, when you look
at the numbers and you look at

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kind of where things are are
heading, it's the exciting time

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and you know, Speaking of
exciting times.

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Speaking of.
Jonathan Tally.

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What's going on, brother?
Oh my God, you're rubbing his

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head.
What is going on?

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What you what you learn tonight.
Nothing yet.

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I didn't learn a damn thing.
Oh.

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My God.
I didn't learn nothing is is we

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do we got a coach yet or we got
a.

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Bruce Arians went on McAfee
though, so you know.

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Yeah, I'm saying a little bit
about that.

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We.
Just talking about the money

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right now, talent, that's what
we didn't got to.

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We didn't talk about the money
and how much.

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Basically Brown was just going,
how excited he was about we're

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finally being for real about
this.

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I know Jim you put in there, Jim
said.

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It should have been done five
years ago.

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I agreed at least, but.
You know what, what did you feel

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when you start seeing the
numbers and it's like

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190,000,000 / 200 million
knowing when you start getting

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into that, you're up there in
the upper echelon of the ACC and

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probably top 25.
In Investor 25, yeah.

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I know it's just like, you know,
when you first start hearing

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about it because you know, I
mean, I ain't saying we

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insiders, but we may hear about
some stuff a little bit more

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than it's put out or before it's
put out.

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So when you start hearing about
it, it's not like you doubt the

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people that's talking with you.
But at the same time, it's like,

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I've been down this road so many
times with Virginia Tech.

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I don't believe it until it's
like pen on paper.

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You know what I'm saying?
I see some concrete and then

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once you start seeing some
things really start getting into

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motion.
It's like what, where is it

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being like, what, what are we
waiting for?

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Why we been, we should have been
doing this like we just never

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capitalized on our moments.
You know what I'm saying?

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Never capitalized on our
moments.

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So don't want to seem
ungrateful, but it's like, thank

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you for finally doing something.
And I, I said, even when Frank

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left, because I, I was in the,
you know, the maybe the

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majority, excuse me, minority
when Frank was here, just like,

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man, we got to get a new coach.
We got to go a new route.

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We got to try something, then
Forinte came, then probably

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came.
And it's like whenever a legend

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leaves, sometimes it takes a
while to get that, to get it

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right.
You know what I'm saying?

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I'm thinking with how bad things
are being and how we are still

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perceived, they finally said,
OK, if this is going to work, if

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we're going to capitalize on the
games, we got to put some money

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into this and we got to take it
serious.

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So I don't want to hear about no
coordinator hires.

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I don't want to hear about no
secondary.

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Like we got to swing for the
fence and you know, maybe get a

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triple.
We can't hit no single or no

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double though.
We got to got to at least get a

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triple with it so.
Well, hold on.

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You joining us later.
I just got to put this in here

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just for you, for my man
Andretti.

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Oh Lord, we don't.
You know what a people people

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been talking about saving.
I just seen his name pop up

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everywhere.
You got to understand though,

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man, like he had the job, he was
at Alabama.

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Why would he just go back to
college football to coach?

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Like he's done everything.
He is the greatest.

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So even if he, I mean, he has to
win a championship wherever he

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goes, you know, I don't know if
Nick wants to do it.

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I think he left because of NIL,
you know, So I don't think that

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he wants to have to deal with
that, and I don't blame him.

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So you got to go with the new
way when you got to find

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somebody who is going to be able
to coach #1 but it's going to be

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able to, you know, get the most
out of Blacksburg, too.

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Yep.
A. 100% you know the one thing I

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I watched it, I didn't watch the
whole Bruce Arians interview,

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but I watched that clip that has
popped up seemingly 100 million

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times in the last day and Bruce
talking about we're getting the

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general manager, then we're
going to find the coach.

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Well, that's first of all,
finally that's the right way to

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do it.
We got the person who's going to

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be running the the money side of
it has got to be the person who

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hires because they've got to be
able to work hand in hand.

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But also this, I think the way
we're setting it up, you

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mentioned coach.
I think it's going to take a lot

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of that pressure off of a head
coach to be, oh, you got to be

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the NIO guy.
You got to know how much money

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they're going to get.
You got to know their value.

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You got to do all this shit and
having that.

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I don't think we're going to get
Nick Saban.

443
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,520
I'll say that right now.
Few weeks from now, we'll let

444
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,240
y'all come on and y'all speak to
people.

445
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,400
We'll keep a tally of how many
y'all think savings coming.

446
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,880
But I think that might be one of
the biggest sell points if we

447
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,240
set this up right.
Listen, are you going to have to

448
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,720
go shake hands, kiss babies, all
that stuff?

449
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,920
Are you going to have to go into
high schools and meet kids and

450
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,760
make sure they're OK and meet
families?

451
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,760
Absolutely.
That's your job as a head coach.

452
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,360
Are you going to have to go over
the top with that shit that that

453
00:26:31,360 --> 00:26:34,920
you've had to do for the last 40
years of college football?

454
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:39,040
Right.
In this era, maybe not in this

455
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,360
era, if you got the structure
right.

456
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,560
Listen, you you're going to have
to close some deals, you're

457
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,160
going to have to shake some
hands.

458
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:50,640
But your primary job is going to
go go coach, go coach this team

459
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,080
to the best possible athletes.
Yeah.

460
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,920
Yeah.
And I mean, in the new age, talk

461
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,800
about money or talk about this
like it, it really doesn't take

462
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:07,560
as long as it used to to build a
team, you know what I'm saying?

463
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,520
Or just again, I talked about
Florida State and then what they

464
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,720
did, you know, a couple of years
ago.

465
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,120
And I was like, we, we ain't
Florida State.

466
00:27:16,120 --> 00:27:22,000
But like the similar trajectory
could have been, OK, they lose

467
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,480
this and they did this and then
all of a sudden, boom, they get

468
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,640
these guys in, they have a great
year.

469
00:27:27,120 --> 00:27:29,320
Florida State's going to be one
of those teams, you know what

470
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,440
I'm saying?
It's kind of a who did we get in

471
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,840
the portal?
Because recruiting don't even

472
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,840
matter no more.
Like high school recruiting

473
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,160
don't even matter no more
because it it's so I mean it, it

474
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,040
still does matter.
I don't want to say that, but

475
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,520
not as much because when a coach
comes in, it's like it don't

476
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,040
really matter what his high
school recruiting class is.

477
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:54,120
He can go out and get 40 players
and field A-Team to be, you

478
00:27:54,120 --> 00:27:57,120
know, go from 2:00 and 11:00
Florida State last year to

479
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,000
undefeated and top ten this
year.

480
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,920
You know what I'm saying?
Like you can, you can do that.

481
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:04,960
Somebody just put it in the in
the chat.

482
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,800
Look at Texas Tech, they dropped
so much money and it don't work

483
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,440
that way all the time.
But like Virginia Tech, if you

484
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:16,280
go get the athletes and you have
somebody that we had somebody

485
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,960
that wasn't coaching them and we
still was close to winning

486
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:23,240
games, you know what I'm saying?
Like if you can go get the

487
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:27,800
talent and where we play, it'll
be a easier path than some of

488
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,920
the other places, you know, the,
the SEC schools, you know, the

489
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:33,720
the Big 10 schools, things like
that.

490
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:38,760
So I'm just excited that they
are at least looking at it like

491
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,480
this is the cash cow.
We got it to protect it.

492
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,000
So they're.
Looking at it as a business now,

493
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,080
it is.
You have to.

494
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:50,200
It is no It effectively is no
longer an athletic program for a

495
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,040
school.
It is a multi $1,000,000

496
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:56,720
business statement about the
school, the region and the state

497
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,800
in general.
Says a lot because I think they

498
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,560
know and I think this is
probably politicians.

499
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,520
I mean, you got Aaron Rouse
doing stuff.

500
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,560
You got Younkin who's a big
sports fan up here.

501
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:12,360
They understand right now the
two biggest universities in

502
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:16,480
state of Virginia sports wise,
they're not in the two big

503
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,280
conferences.
And what does that do?

504
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:20,360
They were like, oh, that's
nothing.

505
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,000
It's like it's billions of
dollars.

506
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,720
It's revenue, it's eyes on your
state.

507
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,360
It it's a whole different ball
game now.

508
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,120
And I'm not saying we're going
to get into Big 10 or the SEC,

509
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:34,240
but if you're seeing this kind
of stuff done and the school

510
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,760
saying we're willing to fund
money, our donors are willing to

511
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,880
give money.
And if the state's willing to

512
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,720
back support, go ahead, go
ahead.

513
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,080
No, People look at things like,
you know, wins and losses, you

514
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:46,480
know, schools and things like
that.

515
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,160
But if you really like get down
to the nuts and bolts of like

516
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:55,080
how the workings of the of the
communities go a place like

517
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,520
freaking Blacksburg, Tuscaloosa,
you know what I'm saying?

518
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:01,680
Tuscaloosa ain't got nothing
there.

519
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,000
You know, Auburn, Auburn ain't
got nothing there.

520
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:09,600
Like for real, if that school is
not having games and people

521
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,560
coming in for game day, people
staying in hotels, people

522
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:17,160
renting cars, people Airbnb and
people going to restaurants.

523
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,560
Like when Blacksburg is when
when Virginia Tech's not good,

524
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,480
Blacksburg is going to take a
hit.

525
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,680
You may still have some stuff
coming through there, but it's

526
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,840
going to take a hit when you're
when Blacksburg is jumping, when

527
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:35,560
Virginia Tech is at least
competitive like that, you stand

528
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,640
to make a lot of money in that
area.

529
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,000
And then that helps not just
Blacksburg, but the surrounding

530
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,280
areas because I've been to, I've
been to plenty of games and I

531
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,760
stayed in Bristol before, I've
stayed in Christiansburg, I've

532
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:51,600
stayed in Withville, I've stayed
in places around Blacksburg

533
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,400
because I couldn't get the
Blacksburg.

534
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,960
So it it, it's a bigger thing
than just a football team

535
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,040
winning and losing games.
So the people that's up top now

536
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:05,680
I start looking at things going,
well, how much money are we do?

537
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,960
How much money did we lose
because we're doing this and how

538
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,560
much money can?
Yeah, how much?

539
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,680
Did finally did somebody finally
say you've lost $300 million?

540
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,040
You lost.
Exactly.

541
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:17,400
You lost.
All this money.

542
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:21,200
You've had a down program, so
you've had, you know, and then

543
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:22,720
it made all the stadiums fooled
up.

544
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,560
But still, are those people
traveling?

545
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,080
Are they bringing, you know what
I'm saying?

546
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,880
Is it overly full?
Are we really booking up just

547
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,720
because you say you got this
many people in the stadium?

548
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,080
Are you booking up hotels?
There's restaurants being

549
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,080
booked, there's people getting
mad and leaving, going home.

550
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:43,000
It's more to it than just that.
So I tell you what, whatever

551
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,880
that I think, it's the Hard Rock
that's in Bristol when if we

552
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,960
winning, I'm going in there
spending money.

553
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:50,600
If we losing, I don't spend
nothing.

554
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,080
I want to go to the casino and
spend money when we're doing

555
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,960
good.
I'm I'm I'm excited, but you

556
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,600
know, when you're not it, it
just changes the trajectory of

557
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,280
what people are going to do.
So I think the people up top

558
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,840
finally kind of understand that
or they understood it because

559
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,600
they was making money.
But when it starts hitting their

560
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,000
pockets, they like, hold on for
a minute.

561
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,720
Let's let's figure out what's
going on.

562
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,080
So.
There you go, Brian.

563
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,360
Anything else you want to add
before we jump to the next piece

564
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:17,480
here?
With Yeah, yeah.

565
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,000
So I'll, I'll just talk about a
little bit.

566
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,680
So I mean one of the things that
we talked about was kind of the

567
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,960
funding breakdown.
You know, there's going to be

568
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:30,280
institutional support, there's
going to be student fee

569
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,920
increases.
We got bridge funding, which

570
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:37,480
means we are taking out some
loans and then we got

571
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:41,800
philanthropy which is always
been a part of athletics fund

572
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,360
rating, right.
So we we talked about and what

573
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,880
it sounds like is that when we
talk about the philanthropy part

574
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:52,680
of it, it sounds like year one
that fiscal year 26 already has

575
00:32:52,680 --> 00:33:00,520
been either collected or is
already aligned and, and and

576
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:04,640
spoken for.
Obviously we don't need to

577
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,960
restructure some of the things
in Hokie Club to make sure that

578
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:13,600
we're hitting those marks for 27
through 29 to keep that funding

579
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,200
allocation rising.
And then we look at student

580
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:17,800
fees.
I know people hate student fees,

581
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,000
but at this point, everybody,
every, everybody's got student

582
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,560
fees.
I mean, it sucks, it's a

583
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:27,080
necessary evil, but it it's one
of those things that it looks

584
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:31,200
like, you know, you go from.
Yeah, really you're, you're not

585
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:32,760
really pulling any revenue from
2.

586
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,680
Fees right now lowest, still the
lowest even after the

587
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:36,720
additional.
Funding, yeah.

588
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,680
So you're still, you're still
putting yourself in a pretty

589
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,360
good position relative to your
competition in terms of not, not

590
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,200
crippling your students.
I mean, nobody, nobody likes

591
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,800
you're giving 18 to 22 year olds
additional debt.

592
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:55,680
I mean, I get it.
But at the end of the day, if

593
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,520
you want to be competitive,
that's going to be part of it.

594
00:33:58,200 --> 00:33:59,720
Yeah.
It's just where, it's just where

595
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,320
we are.
You know the other thing, Brian,

596
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,280
you were talking about the
philanthropy and a lot of people

597
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,040
are questioning, well, how are
you going to do that?

598
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:12,360
A lot of people, a lot of
people, well, people are asking.

599
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,239
If you go on the Twitter
timeline, there are a lot of

600
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,440
people asking how's this?
Say the name you'd.

601
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,159
Say the name.
You know who it is.

602
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,440
You want to say the name
Charlie?

603
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,920
I ain't saying no name I.
Ain't saying a name, but these

604
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,440
people saying things and here's
the thing, when you have a

605
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,520
vision and a plan like this and
you see that Lance reliable,

606
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,600
that's donors.
Well, how do we know this money

607
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,520
is going to come in?
Well, AI got a feeling when they

608
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,159
gut the Hokie Club and about I'm
going to say about a month, give

609
00:34:39,159 --> 00:34:40,760
it a month.
They're going to gut Hokie Club

610
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,719
and get whole new bunch of
people working that that's one

611
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,760
way.
But my second is there are some

612
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,840
big donors.
There are some big people who

613
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,880
give a shit about sports and
give a lot of money.

614
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,440
I've got a feeling that the
discussions have been with them.

615
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,840
All right, let's say it's 30.
I can't remember the exact

616
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:02,800
numbers, if you remember the
exact numbers for 2728 or 29 for

617
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,680
land to be laid on me, but I got
a feeling that they've discussed

618
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,520
with them.
We are going to try to get as

619
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,760
much as we can from everyone for
this.

620
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,960
If we can't, will you, y'all
know who I'm talking about?

621
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,920
Some of those people who are
really rich have a lot of money.

622
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,720
Can you backfill if we're short?
And I got a feeling a lot of

623
00:35:21,720 --> 00:35:24,280
those folks have said, yeah, if
you're going to do all this

624
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:28,360
other stuff, if you're going to
give us more money here, if

625
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,320
you're going to raise student
fees to give more money, if

626
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,800
you're going to do this to give
more money, you know what?

627
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:34,760
We're willing to make that
investment.

628
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:39,800
Yeah, but I'll say this, this is
where the the GM and coach hire

629
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:44,600
become very important. 100%.
Because you, you have to have #1

630
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:48,760
the structure out the gate for
them to be confident to make the

631
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:55,480
initial investment #2 at some
point in fiscal year 28 and 29.

632
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,640
If you're not winning fucking
games that extra at the end that

633
00:35:59,720 --> 00:36:03,280
hey, I'll fill in the gap, that
might be a little harder to get

634
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,680
if you're not seeing the return
on that investment.

635
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:07,960
That means people got to get
fired again.

636
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,440
It's going to be a brutal cycle
of it.

637
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:14,240
It's going to be a brutal cycle.
I'm just saying that's why the

638
00:36:14,240 --> 00:36:16,680
GM and the coach hire are right.
You got to get that right.

639
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,240
You got to get the right people
in the gate.

640
00:36:18,240 --> 00:36:20,800
You got to get the right players
in here and you got to win games

641
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,640
in about by by year three, or at
least you got to be seeing that

642
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,680
upward trajectory that we never
really saw under Brent Pratt.

643
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,400
You got to see it.
You got to see return on

644
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,040
investment and then the money
will keep coming in.

645
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:37,600
If you are seeing results, the
money will come in a whole lot

646
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:43,080
easier than seeing the same shit
happen despite having 50 million

647
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,560
more in the coffers.
Andrea, you got to decide who

648
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,480
you want you want IRV or you
want you want statement.

649
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:51,000
He said.
Both of them.

650
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,080
Both of them.
He, he, he ain't got to worry

651
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,040
about it.
They don't have, they don't have

652
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,320
somebody in a hokey jacket for
him.

653
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,520
Artist knows who it is.
Y'all know my opinion.

654
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,680
I I stated it early and I'll sit
on that and again give it a

655
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,480
couple of weeks we're going to
let y'all come on here and give

656
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,280
you all's opinions on it all
right let's flip real quick

657
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,560
announced earlier this week the
ACC officially is going to a

658
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:17,600
nine game schedule with an odd
number of teams.

659
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:19,760
I don't know how they're going
to figure that out.

660
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:21,640
That ain't my job.
Some.

661
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,280
Teams are going to be playing
eight every year and then going,

662
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,200
you know, we already have the
weird shit that happened with NC

663
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,360
State and Virginia this year.
I mean, we're going to have.

664
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,080
Yeah.
Probably more of that I would

665
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,280
imagine is is going to be some
of what happens.

666
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,240
Yeah, I don't know.
And and then, well, on top of

667
00:37:37,240 --> 00:37:41,120
that, you get 9 and either
you're going to play one more

668
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,040
power 14 or if you're doing the
8, you get 2 more Power four

669
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:49,160
teams.
So for is it next year, are we

670
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,760
losing JMU or we drop an ODU
because they're going to give

671
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,520
the new coach BMI as an offering
of sacrifice?

672
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,080
Just real quick, who's going bye
bye?

673
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:03,080
I don't know man, I feel like it
depends on who the coach is

674
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:06,600
because it depending on who the
coach is.

675
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:10,080
I mean they may want to get rid
of VMI.

676
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,720
OK.
And so play ODU and JMU.

677
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,560
Yeah, I mean, because if you get
rid of ODU, it might seem like

678
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,560
you're ducking them.
They don't whoop your ass all

679
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,920
these years.
So depending on who the coach

680
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,120
is, if they come in and they
have ties to the program,

681
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,120
they'll be like, yeah, we want
to play them again.

682
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:32,880
I mean, at this point, ODUI mean
that it's it's their Super Bowl

683
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:38,920
every year, so and and they've
done damn near 500 in it.

684
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,920
So you can't really fault them
for wanting to play that game.

685
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:49,480
And at this point, again, we
talked about it before the

686
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,880
season started.
It's like we finally won enough

687
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:56,440
where we could push out on going
to Norfolk, yeah, but now we

688
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,120
went and got our ass kicked this
year, so it's going to be a

689
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:04,800
whole lot harder to push out of
the series all together when you

690
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:08,440
just got your ass kicked at your
own place so.

691
00:39:09,720 --> 00:39:12,320
True.
It's it's, it's going to be

692
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,280
interesting to see how that
series shakes out.

693
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,160
It's.
Going to be good for the I guess

694
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,040
the GM to figure out.
Yeah, yeah, GM is going to have

695
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:23,480
some things to think about and
talk about and weigh some, some

696
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:28,640
options and and decide whether,
you know, saving face and

697
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,040
playing this thing out and
you're actually getting some

698
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:35,440
wins in it is is worth the trade
off of not getting a, you know,

699
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:39,000
higher level, you know, P4
competition.

700
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,080
If Bema comes in, he's going to
want to play LDU.

701
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:47,640
If somebody said Signetti, he
comes in, he's going to play JM.

702
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,200
Whoever the JMU coach is, now
that people have been throwing

703
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,400
his name out, probably going to
play JMU.

704
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:59,400
Hey, I want Signetti too but I
don't know how feasible that is

705
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,880
at this point.
He's at a spot where he's

706
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:07,840
getting Big 10 money with.
You know, he's hitting, he's

707
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:12,840
he's exceeding his expectations
by big margin early on.

708
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:17,200
And I know once you, once you
set expectations, things shift.

709
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:21,480
But right now he can.
He can stay at at Indiana and

710
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:25,640
win eight games every year and
punch up every one or two years

711
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,440
for 1/2 decade or a decade and
then ride off into the sunset.

712
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:31,720
100%.
I know we ain't going to talk

713
00:40:31,720 --> 00:40:34,320
about coaches too much, but I do
want to say this because I don't

714
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,280
have no opinion on it and I know
we haven't said nothing.

715
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:43,280
Somebody put the name out, Pat
Fitzgerald, and I didn't even

716
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,240
think about it.
He got all the.

717
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:47,720
Shit cleared up.
I didn't.

718
00:40:47,720 --> 00:40:49,040
I didn't think about what he
done.

719
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,360
I didn't think about all the
stuff that he went through

720
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,960
afterwards.
I'm going to say I'm going to

721
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,600
ask Curtis, because I know you
know about this.

722
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,280
What do you think about Pat
Fitzgerald?

723
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,280
All right, well, first of all,
he got exonerated of all the

724
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,160
shit.
So first of all, we mentioned.

725
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,040
No car wash.
There was no car wash, Dickens.

726
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,200
No car wash Dickens on his
watch, right?

727
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,880
Like I said, I ain't really did
a whole bunch of studying on it.

728
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,000
So he wasn't the one.
He wasn't the one it was.

729
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,280
Not him.
He got exonerated.

730
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,000
It was going on, but he did not
know about it.

731
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,280
And he?
He had no noodle play going on.

732
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:30,440
Curtis, is that what you're?
Saying play going on, I'm

733
00:41:31,240 --> 00:41:37,160
thinking guy like Fitzgerald, if
he becomes the coach, you're not

734
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,000
upset because you know, you look
at his track record at

735
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:47,320
Northwestern and I mean winning
10 games 123 times, winning nine

736
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:52,440
games like 3 times in his career
there and they don't give shit

737
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,960
about it.
He also mentality wise,

738
00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:01,200
undersized linebacker.
I mean, he fits.

739
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,920
He fits what you want that he
puts blue collar mentality.

740
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:12,920
If we, if you, if you told me
Thanksgiving Day, tally me, we

741
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:18,160
all sitting around watching the
game and you call, take Curtis,

742
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,560
Brian, call me now.
I just heard something and you

743
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,080
told me it was him.
I wouldn't be upset.

744
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,000
Right, Brian, what you got to
say?

745
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:32,040
I'm fine with Pat.
You know, we could do better.

746
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,080
I I think we could do better.
I think we could do a whole lot

747
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:39,040
worse too.
And I told y'all, I told y'all I

748
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:40,760
wasn't going to get y'all in.
No coaching talk.

749
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,840
So I'm not trying to go that
route just yet.

750
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,720
But I do want to just start
because I know people.

751
00:42:46,720 --> 00:42:49,520
I think I'd have Dan Mullen a
little bit ahead of Pat, but I

752
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:50,880
was just about to say behind
him.

753
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,640
Yeah.
What we got to understand is,

754
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,520
yeah, that's going to be some
extra money, but we're still in

755
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,360
a certain position.
There are some coaches that are

756
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,520
out of the league that we're not
going to get.

757
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,320
There's some coaches that are
beneath where we are that we

758
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,040
don't need to look at getting.
Just my opinion.

759
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,800
But when you start thinking of
somebody said Fitzgerald, I was

760
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,320
like, but then I started
thinking, I was like, that's

761
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:18,120
probably about the coach range
that we'll go, you know what I'm

762
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,080
saying, or somebody like a damn
Mullen.

763
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,640
And then you have so many people
to say all these coaches can't

764
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:26,360
or he didn't do this.
He you got to go look at some

765
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,160
stuff for yourself because when
you start looking at somebody

766
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,800
like a, a Dan Mullen, he didn't
have a great time at Florida.

767
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,360
He didn't recruit bad like
people say it but didn't.

768
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:36,840
Have a great hold on.
No, no, no.

769
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,560
That's where the bullshit comes
in with Dan Mullen in Florida.

770
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,960
So everybody keeps saying he
didn't have a good record before

771
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:47,600
and I, I will no put Jason's up
real quick so I can say this.

772
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,600
My see I I didn't even want to
start talking because I knew

773
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:51,600
names.
Were going to come up.

774
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,000
That's it.
I'm I'm going to end us on with

775
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,200
Dan Mullen talking.
We going we going to keep moving

776
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,560
because again, I want to have a
night where we have this

777
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:04,040
conversation for two hours.
But Dan Mullen at Florida, ten

778
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,840
wins, 10.
What?

779
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:12,760
Oh Jesus Christ, Jim, ten wins
his first year, eleven wins his

780
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,960
second year.
COVID year, he went 8:00 and

781
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:19,160
4:00.
He went 5 and 6 to 2021 and got

782
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:20,840
fired.
He went to the Peach Bowl, the

783
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,400
Orange Bowl, and the Cotton Bowl
and squashed it.

784
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,520
Three years and he got fired.
People didn't like him in

785
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,400
Florida because you know what he
wanted?

786
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,640
He was probably an asshole to
somebody and they were like,

787
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,800
well, fuck you, we'll fire you.
Where have they been since 2022?

788
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,400
So two more things to hit.
Spring portal is gone.

789
00:44:39,720 --> 00:44:41,840
Spring portal's gone.
It's going to be one time a

790
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:43,400
year.
That time is not set.

791
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,040
I think it's going to land like
February 1.

792
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,320
So let me ask this question.
And I mean, I know we had talked

793
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:57,440
about this before.
You triggered me, Jason.

794
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:58,400
You triggered.
Me how?

795
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:03,480
How is How is that landing in
terms of transferring in for

796
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:11,280
spring ball with the window
being after?

797
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:16,080
Drop dates for right, spring
semester, right?

798
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:17,720
That's that's going to be crazy,
right?

799
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:22,000
Like what do you do?
Because I mean, I know that the,

800
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:27,160
the original talk was like
backing up, backing up the

801
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:33,160
window, expanding the window,
but but keeping it, you know,

802
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:36,400
within the spring semester, but
before the start of the spring

803
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,600
semester.
I, I just don't know what that's

804
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:42,520
going to look like.
No idea and you maybe some

805
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,560
people with more knowledge than
I do you have have have better

806
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,480
ideas of what that's going to
look like, but.

807
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:48,880
Because you can't have it
pushed.

808
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,720
You can't push it.
I mean, it's not going to be

809
00:45:50,720 --> 00:45:52,520
there.
And then if you don't get them

810
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:56,920
in, then they can't participate.
So you're behind.

811
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:02,240
It's like, when do you when does
that portal work?

812
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:04,800
I don't know.
And and then I mean.

813
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:09,080
This year National championship
is January 19th, January 20th.

814
00:46:09,720 --> 00:46:11,760
Yeah.
It's going to be DAF national

815
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:15,440
championship game.
Through mid February, no.

816
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:21,000
No that like or the 21st last
day you can go into port will be

817
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:22,720
like the 21st.
OK.

818
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,080
Something like that.
They basically give that week

819
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,600
because most schools, your ad
drops probably going to be

820
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:35,120
around the last of January.
And again, there's going to be

821
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:36,920
no perfect solution.
It's going to be pissed off

822
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,200
people.
And you know, maybe they start

823
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,840
looking at incremental rules
that you know what, you can take

824
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:46,520
a six hour online course class
and be enrolled in the school

825
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:50,400
and come here and play football.
Got to think like that.

826
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,400
One last piece before we get to
big screeners.

827
00:46:54,240 --> 00:46:58,640
The Wisconsin Virginia Tech game
has been moved from Lane Stadium

828
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,920
to Charlotte.
Talley is extremely happy

829
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:05,440
because he cuts his drive time
significantly from from us.

830
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,680
I'll take that.
A lot more hotels than

831
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,840
Charlotte.
Too, how old will we be in in

832
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:13,760
whenever that game's played?
Fifty I'll.

833
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:19,720
Be I'll be I'll just turn 48.
Hey man, we might be.

834
00:47:19,720 --> 00:47:22,720
We might be flying to them then,
Curtis Cars.

835
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:25,720
Cars might be flying by then.
Or might.

836
00:47:26,720 --> 00:47:31,320
Be flying a long way away, dawg.
But it's in Charlotte and

837
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:35,320
apparently the money's good.
I was joking with Brian earlier.

838
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,640
You know, I hate neutral site
games, I really do.

839
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:42,160
But if you're telling me you get
an extra seven 8,000,000 bucks

840
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:46,920
for playing there, man that is a
good payment for a defensive and

841
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,200
offensive lineman.
Sign me up for a couple of them.

842
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,040
Exactly.
Screw it.

843
00:47:52,720 --> 00:47:56,880
Yeah, all.
Right tally real quick before we

844
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:00,520
flip over to big screeners.
Your prediction for the game in

845
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,760
your key for the Hokies with the
NC State game.

846
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:06,720
You missed a really good Evan
was nailing it tonight from the

847
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:08,960
podcast.
I might have to go back and go

848
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,280
back and listen to it.
I'm going to say, man, just

849
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,840
because of where we are,
probably say, you know,

850
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:18,880
somewhere about 3521, somewhere
around that range, North

851
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,600
Carolina State, just because I
don't think we have enough.

852
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:23,400
I don't know who's playing.
I don't know who's going to sit

853
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:24,440
out.
I don't know who's ready to

854
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:29,680
transfer and I don't know what
our office is going to do.

855
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:35,040
So 3521 somewhere around there.
I know that defense ain't good.

856
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,640
That's the only reason I'm
saying we scored 21.

857
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:40,760
So I think we, you know, scored
some.

858
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:42,840
But you know, I don't know that
we stopped themselves.

859
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,720
Keys for us is going to be for
me.

860
00:48:46,720 --> 00:48:51,840
It's just where we are.
I mean, just getting better, get

861
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:55,920
better then we've been in the
losses.

862
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:59,040
If it's going to be a loss, make
it getting better, getting more

863
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:03,680
disciplined.
We were still undisciplined last

864
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:05,640
game.
So get a little bit more

865
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,800
disciplined and then you know,
moving to the next games and try

866
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,360
to steal a couple of these games
because we still can win some

867
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:12,920
games.
I mean, you don't, you just

868
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:14,560
can't win one game, you know
what I'm saying?

869
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,200
You got to find some games on
the schedule and win them, you

870
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,760
know, no matter who's walking
out there because a lot of these

871
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:21,640
kids are getting paid.
A lot of these kids are getting

872
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,200
trying to get film.
You know, a lot of these kids,

873
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,800
it's that last who are on.
So it's still a lot to play for

874
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:28,760
for those young men and coaches
too.

875
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,160
Everybody's auditioning.
So if you don't audition, put a

876
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:33,880
good audition up, you know what
I'm saying?

877
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:37,320
So steal some games, man, go
steal some games.

878
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:41,000
I don't really think it's a key
or my key is just to be more

879
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:45,000
disciplined.
But I just feel like we got

880
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,440
nothing to lose.
The coach is gone, you know the

881
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,600
players are looking for what
they want to be and what they

882
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,080
want to do and you know who's
coming in.

883
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:56,280
It's a lot riding on that to
what nucleus we look like we

884
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,720
have next year.
So and go create a name for

885
00:49:58,720 --> 00:50:00,120
yourself.
If you get the opportunity to

886
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:01,720
get in and make a big play, go
do it.

887
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,040
Go do it.
Awesome.

888
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:10,240
All righty, Brian went.
I didn't even notice your tag

889
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:17,480
tonight.
All right, Brian, let's talk

890
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:22,400
about it because I mentioned
this earlier in in the chat.

891
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,760
I can't remember if you saw it.
This is one of the best sports

892
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:30,920
weekends of the year.
So first of all, I love golf.

893
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,640
Ryder Cups this weekend, Ryder
Cups, the best of been in golf

894
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:38,280
bar none, USA versus Europe.
Usually there's there's going to

895
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,040
be people getting each other's
grills.

896
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:43,040
It's the one time you get close
to your fist fight on a golf

897
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:48,760
course.
Secondly, MLB is coming down to

898
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,280
the wire.
There's like 3 to 4 races still

899
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:55,160
going on that will be decided
Friday, Saturday, Sunday.

900
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:59,120
NF LS going on.
We all love it as Ken Ward

901
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:00,920
treating you tally.
Don't answer that because you

902
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,440
don't throw things at me.
He ain't doing bad.

903
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:08,120
Though Daniel Jones season oh.
God.

904
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,680
Y'all been fixed Daniel Jones up
there in Indy's crazy.

905
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:16,360
But then we still, when you
started, when y'all started

906
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:20,680
looking through to sleep this
weekend, was it just like Jeezy

907
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:22,920
Peasy?
Like it's just good.

908
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,480
We only picked four games and
that's probably five more we

909
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,200
could have picked easily out
there this weekend.

910
00:51:29,240 --> 00:51:30,680
Yeah.
And it's like, it's one of those

911
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:34,040
weeks where it's like, there's
not a ton of like top 25 versus

912
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:38,560
top 25, but there's like a dozen
really good matchups, even if

913
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:40,720
it's not those, you know,
marquee games.

914
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:42,760
Yeah, and you got some big
marquees too.

915
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:47,320
So Brian, you got to screen up.
Me and Brian have had some O and

916
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:50,320
four weeks to kick their ass.
Tally rally back last week, two

917
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,320
games under 500.
Bet with Sheldon you won't lose

918
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,320
money.
So where are we going?

919
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,840
Hey, Hey, Nate, I'm leading it
off.

920
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,440
It is going to be 330.
I'll be getting back in from

921
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:11,000
baseball to watch LSU, Ole Miss
and got Ole Miss getting.

922
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:14,680
Hold on, Brian, I think you got
this one messed up with the

923
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:15,840
line.
Hold on.

924
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:17,880
It's all right.
It's all right.

925
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:23,800
The Ole Miss was getting 1 1/2.
Yeah, Ole Miss is giving 1 1/2

926
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:25,200
I.
Thought giving 1 1/2 excuse me

927
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:26,480
hang.
On.

928
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,400
It's all right.
That's why I'm pulling up here.

929
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:32,840
The Ole Miss is giving Ole Miss
-1 1/2.

930
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:37,240
Yeah, it's that Ole Miss Lane
Kiffin's just waiting for Billy

931
00:52:37,240 --> 00:52:40,400
Napier to get fired because
everybody know Lane wants to.

932
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:45,160
Florida job, bigger budget,
better state to recruit from,

933
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:50,280
lot more expectations.
But for me, I think LSU is just

934
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,240
a morale rounded team.
Only Lane 1 1/2.

935
00:52:53,240 --> 00:52:54,560
I think they went by a
touchdown.

936
00:52:55,280 --> 00:53:00,640
Shelton took LSU.
Shelton took LSU talent.

937
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:06,400
Old piss baby.
Oh, piss.

938
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:08,920
I'm all right with LSU as well.
I think.

939
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,000
I think they're going to get
this thing done.

940
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,640
I was, I was, I liked it with
the the plus 3 1/2.

941
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:20,880
So at least the the the the -1
1/2 for sure.

942
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:24,080
But it's better now, like
definitely, definitely LSU, All

943
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,400
right, Tally taking a point and
a half.

944
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,920
We are laying it.
I Who's next?

945
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,760
Oh, let's be Alabama and
Georgia.

946
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:36,880
Boy, that's the one everybody's
talking about down here.

947
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:41,640
So yeah, we're going to see
who's good and who's who's not.

948
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,200
I guess.
You know, if Alabama loses, they

949
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:47,240
go down to games or they, they,
they got 2 losses for the season

950
00:53:47,240 --> 00:53:50,400
and they'll be getting ready to
get rid of their coach depending

951
00:53:50,720 --> 00:53:54,320
on how bad they lose.
But I don't think we're going to

952
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,040
see that.
I think Alabama is going to take

953
00:53:56,040 --> 00:54:01,920
this game, so I'll pick Bama.
Upset between the edges stand.

954
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:06,440
I'm not taking Alabama.
I think I think George is going

955
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,120
to win by at least a touchdown
here.

956
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:11,720
I don't.
I don't think this Alabama team

957
00:54:11,720 --> 00:54:13,840
is it.
I don't necessarily think that

958
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,040
this Georgia team is world
beaters, but I think they're

959
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:17,760
better than where Alabama is at
this point.

960
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,800
So give me Georgia.
Yeah, I'm with you.

961
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:25,440
Alabama played one team with
talent similar to theirs.

962
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,600
They looked lost on the field.
They got smacked by the

963
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:34,720
Seminoles and just it's 3 1/2
line, that's not enough.

964
00:54:34,720 --> 00:54:36,760
So I'm going to take Georgia as
well.

965
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:41,480
And Shelton is going, he's
riding with us, riding with us.

966
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:45,360
Tally on an island twice.
And by the way, if Cannon Dubois

967
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:48,160
were to get fired, I would be
willing to definitely let him

968
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,000
get high because I think that
kid can coach.

969
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,600
That man can coach just like
crazy down there where Tally

970
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:57,640
lives.
A different level man, true.

971
00:54:58,200 --> 00:54:59,480
It's a whole different beast for
sure.

972
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:06,360
What's next?
Oh, Shelton, not here, but this

973
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,840
is a sneaky good game on Friday
night at 9:00.

974
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:11,120
I don't know if I can stay up
and watch the end of it.

975
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:16,920
I'll try maybe TCU going to the
Valley of the Sun to play the

976
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:21,720
Sun Devils. 2 1/2 point favorite
here.

977
00:55:21,720 --> 00:55:26,320
Shelton says good devils.
Sun Devils for.

978
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:32,160
Tally.
For me, who did I pick on this?

979
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:36,320
Hold on one second here.
For me, I took TCU.

980
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,320
Don't really know why.
I just seen how the coach had to

981
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:42,800
look at his eyes when he beat
Bill Belichick down to the

982
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,280
ground.
So I said, hey, I'm going to

983
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:48,920
pick them.
Yeah, I I'm with you and.

984
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:52,720
And for the same reason.
He put his foot on Belichick's

985
00:55:52,720 --> 00:55:55,400
throat and went for the jugular
there, man.

986
00:55:55,400 --> 00:56:00,040
So I think that's going to do
enough to to take care of the

987
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,520
Sun Devils.
Yeah, I'm with y'all.

988
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:07,080
I'm with y'all.
TCU not enough.

989
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:11,280
They beat SMU, who's supposed to
be a pretty good team this year,

990
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,080
and they they curb stomp the Tar
Heels.

991
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:18,880
So that is a small line to a
team I already like to win.

992
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:26,720
Give me TCU O'Brien.
Oh hell, what the hell happened

993
00:56:26,720 --> 00:56:28,480
here?
OK, well, you all know what

994
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:33,000
we're doing now.
Florida State.

995
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:39,120
Florida State head to
Charlottesville 6 1/2 point dogs

996
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:43,720
here.
As you can see, I've got Florida

997
00:56:43,720 --> 00:56:45,160
State in this one I don't even
like.

998
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:49,960
It's kind of funny the dialogue
around can can UVA fill their

999
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:52,800
stadium for a a high profile
game like this.

1000
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:55,280
I don't know if they can and I
definitely don't think they can

1001
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:58,160
beat Florida State there.
So I've got the Seminoles.

1002
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:01,360
Same.
Yeah, same.

1003
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:04,880
I'll go ahead, Curtis.
I'm just staying same.

1004
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:09,160
Go ahead yes so for me, you
know, I think Florida state's

1005
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,840
got a good team this year.
You know, I I'm not saying

1006
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:13,600
they're going to, you know, go
to the playoffs.

1007
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:17,640
I don't know what happened, but
I just, I'm not saying

1008
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,480
Virginia's bad by no means.
I haven't watched them enough to

1009
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:22,400
know that, but I just think
Florida State's on a little bit

1010
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:25,000
different level.
So I think they're probably

1011
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,680
going to win this game by about
two touchdowns if I had to look

1012
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:31,520
at it.
But I'll be watching it Friday

1013
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,520
night.
I'll I'll, I'll take a look.

1014
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,240
Well, I say I'll be watching it.
My kids homecoming at the high

1015
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,360
school.
So I'll be paying attention to

1016
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:39,280
it.
I don't know how much of it I

1017
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:42,480
get to watch.
I I think the thing for me is

1018
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:45,360
that Virginia's got an offense,
FS U's got a team.

1019
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:51,680
Yeah, that's it.
FSU's got a team and you know,

1020
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:57,640
already played a significantly
more talented team in Alabama,

1021
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:01,760
beaten by two scores.
They played nobodies and beat

1022
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:05,280
the dog piss out of East Texas
A&M and Kent State.

1023
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:09,960
I mean, that's old school, 77,
three and 6610.

1024
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:12,440
That's just beating the crap out
of someone.

1025
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:16,240
And yes, it is.
I got mayor behind me reminding

1026
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:20,960
me this is the 30th anniversary
of UVA beating Florida State.

1027
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:26,080
But I just think, Tyler, just do
what Tyler said.

1028
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:27,840
Florida State's a well-rounded
team.

1029
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:33,440
I think Virginia's probably
going to score in the 20s, but I

1030
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:36,000
think Florida State's going to
score in the high 30s, low 40s.

1031
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,840
I don't think Virginia's going
to stop them straight up.

1032
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,480
So there it is.
There it is.

1033
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:46,840
Oh man, tell I'm glad you got to
come on for the last 35.

1034
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:51,160
Man, I have to pop on him, make
sure Andrey acted right, you

1035
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:53,160
know what I'm saying?
He was a little, he was a little

1036
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:54,840
agitated in the last couple of
weeks.

1037
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:56,240
He's out.
Control.

1038
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:01,160
He was fired.
Up.

1039
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:07,080
He was fired up.
One piece of news, if y'all

1040
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:09,800
didn't see this just hit about
five hours ago, everybody saw

1041
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:12,480
Kevin Giltner took the Wofford
job.

1042
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:17,960
But the there is a Boise State
assistant coach.

1043
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:19,680
I had his.
I had to tweet up and

1044
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:22,440
everything.
Somebody put it in here.

1045
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:24,960
Yeah.
I hate Twitter.

1046
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:29,800
Sometimes you find exactly what
you need and then it just goes

1047
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,440
away.
Trying to ask you guys.

1048
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:36,280
Oh, it refreshed on me because
I'm like, oh, there's a tweet

1049
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:37,480
right there.
Let me just hit it.

1050
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:40,480
Shout out David Cunningham for
the repost.

1051
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:45,120
Former Boise State assistant
coach David and Moats will be

1052
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:48,600
named assistant coach at
Virginia Tech.

1053
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:52,600
Pretty big move for him.
He he had been in Boise since

1054
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:57,200
2017 in a variety of roles.
Boise has made the tournament

1055
00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:01,640
for definitely a few years, so
that role is filled.

1056
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:05,800
Basketball season is starting
soon, so you know, we'll see how

1057
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:09,320
that goes.
Anything else boys, before we

1058
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:13,640
end the night?
Anybody see?

1059
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:14,760
We got Brett Frye.
I'm ready.

1060
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:17,160
To I'm ready to get AGM.
Give me AGM.

1061
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:20,600
If anybody sees Brett Pryor at
the bar, tell him to quit

1062
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:23,120
drinking beer.
Don't quit drinking.

1063
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:24,000
Aw, man.
Tally.

1064
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:29,120
And with that right there, we'll
wrap up this episode of the

1065
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:32,080
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1066
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:35,240
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1067
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,360
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1068
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:40,440
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1069
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:43,040
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1070
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1071
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1072
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1075
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1076
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:02,720
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1077
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:05,720
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1078
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1079
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:11,160
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1080
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:15,320
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1081
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:19,160
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1082
01:01:19,560 --> 01:02:07,480
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