This week we welcome Two Deep cohost and host of College Football Monday Pete B as we Tell the Truth about a Hokies dominating victory at Lane Stadium North. We then turn our focus to Championship Weekend as we breakdown and discuss the biggest conference title matchups coming at you this week.
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Music.
And welcome back to the Boundary
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Corner Podcast along with my
partners Brian Siegel and
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Jonathan Talley.
And tonight our very special
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guest from 2D PBI AM Curtis
Wilson.
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I believe it's that Commonwealth
Cup.
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Some fucking winners is what the
opposite of what's in
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Charlottesville.
There we go, losers.
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Pete, we appreciate you joining
us tonight, man.
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How are you doing and how?
Is the game Saturday?
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I'm still feeling good, man.
You know, I watched at home for
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the first half.
My my wife had to watch me act
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like a fool for for a good 60 to
90 minutes.
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And then we went to the bar for
a little while and I was I was
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more calm because the game was
in hand.
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It's nice having a game in hand
in the first half.
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Like, complete second-half.
No sweat.
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Just like, let's see how much we
can put up on these fuckers.
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Well, Brian likes that too,
because the last time Thursday
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night Syracuse game, we're
playing poker in the basement
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and we get up like 20.
What was it like 20?
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Or something like that it was.
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going.
To play now.
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Next thing you know, he walked
out with like 65 bucks that
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night.
Like whoa.
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Like he was.
Playing loose, I was, I was
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feeling myself.
I was like, let's, let's go,
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man.
Oh my gosh, by the way, Yep, Mr.
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Drones joining us tonight.
Let's go.
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If y'all haven't seen Mr.
Drones.
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Also got his Boundary Corner
water bottle today and is out
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there on Twitter.
But.
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Y'all.
We have a ton to unload.
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Pete is here for a lot of
reasons.
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A We love.
Pete, can I can I say something?
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Go ahead.
Can I say something?
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Because Pete's here Pete Pete is
here because that is that's
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prophet Pete.
Prophet Pete from the preview
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panel, a lot of PS but that's
Prophet Pete because when he
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came on the when he came on the
on the panel he told us some
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things.
He talked about some things.
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And I watched it come to
fruition and I said, damn that
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motherfucker, smart.
I've tweeted that video out a
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couple times from.
I was going to do it too, but I
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say, you know what, I'm going to
let him do that.
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Oh, I'm going to wait until he
comes on and we might tweet it
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out after that.
But seriously, if you go back
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shameless plug, look at the
preview panel and listen at what
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Pete said about this team this
year.
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We had a lot of people doubting.
We had a lot of people that
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didn't know swaying one way or
the other.
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And a lot of the things that
Pete said in there came came
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true and I was, I definitely was
happy to see it.
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I mean I was on, I was on board
the whole time kind of what
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where we are.
But like I said, the stuff that
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Pete talked about in that show
was was pretty cool to see it
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come to, I don't know just about
the 2019 team and how this team
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compared.
And and while I was talking
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about that, I said if things
aren't going so well, we might
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see Karen drones and we might
get a spark in the team and have
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a very similar run like we had
in 2019.
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I hoped that it didn't go like
that because I was hoping Grant
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Wells would come in, hit the
ground running we we'd be fine.
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But that's not how it went.
And it it did turn out a little
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bit like 2019 and there was some
comparisons in there.
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But I appreciate you bringing
that up Tally, because I have
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thought about that a couple
times since.
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Definitely, man.
You know what else I started to
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to tweet out too?
Mike McDaniel and David Y'all
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came on this show and you told
me.
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You didn't see us making it.
You was doubters, man.
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I love y'all.
But guess what?
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You were fucking wrong.
You said five.
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I told you to go to six with me.
You wouldn't move.
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You wouldn't move.
So kind of move.
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We love y'all.
He tried to sell them into
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coming up to six with him
because Tally had a good feeling
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about to see.
Tally was also very happy to see
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that win because Tally was
sitting here last week after we
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got off.
He's like, y'all we got to win
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this fucking game Because if we
don't win this game.
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My whole or of we're going to
have.
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It this season's going to come
from my boy.
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I know they had me.
I know they had me.
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Bookmarked.
Yeah, people had you bookmarked.
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I know they had me bookmarked,
man.
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But you know what boys?
Everything went to fruition.
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Like Pete said, we're going
bowling for the first time since
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2021.
Back in that double up on wins
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this year.
Look who's in the house.
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There.
He is.
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And we got to do what we
normally do, Pete, every
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Tuesday, whether it's us three
or Shelton's able to join us.
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You're joining us this week.
We tell the truth Tuesday.
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And it's a concept that comes
from one of our friends who's in
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the coaching ranks to concept
Pete Carroll sit.
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You sit down every for them.
It's Monday and you say what
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went well.
What went bad?
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What can we do better and what
we didn't expect?
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So y'all, let's just start it
right out there and about what
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went well.
And I'm going to say this, it's
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the edge that this team played
on both sides of the ball.
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They played mean, they played
nasty.
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They wanted to go out and hit
people.
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They found contact.
And and that's a that's a that's
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a thing you got to love to see
when it comes to the the sport
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of football as a team that wants
to do that because it's the it's
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basically putting their will on
someone.
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That team reminded me a little
bit of some of those 2000s team
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that would literally break break
teams will with their
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physicality, and that output on
Saturday reminded me some of
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that getting getting back to
that type, that brand of
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football.
That's definitely been missing.
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I thought the O line definitely
played physical and I thought
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the play calling was pretty
outstanding, especially while we
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were still working the formula
or so to speak.
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In terms of setting up the pass
with the with the RPO game and
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having Chiron run a lot early
and then that led to the passes
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late.
I thought Tyler Bowen called a
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great game.
Yeah, man.
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I mean, it comes down to the the
brightest stars are going to
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shine the brightest.
You know what I'm saying?
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Like the the biggest stars shine
the brightest.
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When you get in the in the
position to shine, that's what
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you do.
You know what I mean?
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So we went in there, we had our
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And I feel like every star on
our team went out there with a
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purpose and they did what they
were supposed to do.
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You had, you had drones, you had
two, you had lane.
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Even though in the stat sheet it
shows he didn't catch a pass, he
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called a touchdown.
There was no holding on that
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plan.
I don't know.
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D Tackle falling down is not
holding.
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Yeah, and then he let it go and
then the the offensive lineman
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let go.
But anyway, I digress.
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You know Felton and the the
Tucker Holloway and he, the
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coaches from the top to the
bottom.
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We went out there and we beat
their ass like we was better
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than them.
We went and showed it.
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They tried to have some
fabricated hatred or something
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through the week with that
quarterback and a couple of
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their players had some stuff
going on.
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Well, I hope that you stopped
coughing up blood by now.
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OK.
How about that pressure on
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Calandria?
Tell me.
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Hey, Brian, real quick before we
because we're going to hit the
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defense first, you'll hold those
thoughts in.
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Brian, you put something on here
about the win itself and I want
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you to explain why you wrote
that, because you wrote that in
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there.
I didn't.
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Which one?
The culture win.
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Yeah, I mean, like I was saying,
you know, thinking back back to
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those 2000, like this looked
like a team that was playing
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with an edge with a type of
intensity that I have not seen
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in a while.
Like whether it's APR going out
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there and honestly getting a
couple late hits on the
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quarterback that rattled his
cage, that shook him up.
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And that was the, I mean, they
had two first downs in the first
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half.
They were both off of those.
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But that quarterback was not the
same.
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And that's how we used to set
the tone.
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And I got.
To give a little, I got to give
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a little bit of credit to the
quarter, to UVA's quarterback
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because he kept getting up.
You know, people like he he's a
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warrior, man.
I got to give him his props.
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He kept getting up, but he kept
getting hit, man.
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He got to understand like you
you.
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I'm from Alabama and I'm a
Virginia Tech fan.
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So when I first.
Started like, I've been a
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Virginia Tech fan for a long
time, but when I first started,
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you know, getting involved with
Virginia Tech, Twitter or going
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to the games and things like
that, it's certain stuff that
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you got to know and you got to
adapt into.
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One of the things that I did
when I went to one of my first
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games, somebody asked me about
Frank Beam and I was like, yeah,
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it's time for him to go.
That was not the right thing to
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say.
I'm going to tell you right
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quick, like it was some people
that was on my ass.
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Hey man, you can't say that you?
We don't talk about Frank like
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that.
I was like, y'all ask me a
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question.
You know, he's a, he's a kid
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from Florida that came to
Virginia.
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I guess they did a great job
recruiting.
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And he starts talking about this
rivalry not really knowing the
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roots of it, I don't think.
Because if you start looking at
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the kids that had, you know,
ties to being pissed off at him,
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you had pain.
You had APR, you know Fuga's in
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there.
You know, and then you had
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Narelle Pollock, who is from
Florida, but he's been at
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Virginia Tech for 19 years.
So I mean, these are people that
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know what this rivalry is and.
Got some shots in at him too.
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I mean, the statements that he
made was just.
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You just don't do that.
It's not.
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It's not good business for him.
Because what do you all think?
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Where do you all think all those
things went?
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Where do you think that?
As soon as that, as soon as he
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said that, it, I mean tweeted it
out on Saturday.
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It was on every screen, it was
on every locker.
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It, it was posted everywhere.
And it should be because you
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think about who we have on our
side in our coaching staff, the
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Pearson Preludes, the Adidas, JC
Price.
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I mean it's endless.
And all of those guys have a
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deep understanding of this
rivalry and it's something that
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I'm sure there's some some UVA
guys on that staff over there.
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It's just not the same.
Our head coach was in our
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building as an as an assistant
back in the day.
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He has an understanding.
He went to high school in
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Virginia.
It's and we brought in Frank
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Beamer.
I don't know if you guys saw the
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video.
That he put out a couple hours
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ago, but Frank talked to the
team and I can.
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I can only imagine how much this
was emphasized, especially after
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that NC State game didn't go so
well.
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These guys were mentally ready.
They were more mentally prepared
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for this game.
They played like it and our
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coaches coach like it. 100% and
it started up front and you say
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it started on defense.
Y'all are mentioned that the QB
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pressures. 6 sacks, 7 players,
seven players with at least a
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half a sack or better.
Cole Nelson and his motor going
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crazy, finding Calandri multiple
times, slamming him down.
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But it was just the whole game,
right?
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That whole game that D line
attacked and Y'all mentioned
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Fuga, Y'all mentioned APR.
It was.
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They literally just said we're
pinning our ears back every play
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and we're going to attack like.
Well, we saw early on they were
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not going to be effective
rushing the football.
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So bend your ears back, go after
his ass.
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The only way they're winning is
if they get the ball down field.
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If he drops back, hit his ass
and it showed up on the stat
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sheet too, because we had the
six sacks in total.
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There were five on Calandria,
but there were eight hurries.
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We had only had a maximum of
four hurries.
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In any other game we had double
that and then we had six sacks
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on top of that.
That's an immense amount of
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pressure.
Crazy amount of pressure.
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And then if you think about it
too, and this is my feeling on
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it, y'all, don't see what you
want to say.
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I almost think JC Price told
them on that first drive.
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I don't give a shit.
Hit him.
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I don't give a fuck.
If the ball is released, hit
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him.
And and to your pallet.
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To your point, just a few
minutes ago he kept getting up
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but he knew it was coming.
It was White Day.
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I know it's him.
He was thinking about even the
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touchdown pass.
He threw the deep one.
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Like he got rocked and.
He was slogan.
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He got rocked.
And then it was crazy to me when
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they reviewed the, when they
reviewed the, the hit from one
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of the hits from pain where he
hit him in the shoulder.
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And the commentator's like,
that's not a targeting.
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That's not they.
They better not call that a
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targeting because his his face
mask is up and he doesn't even
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hit his helmet.
You know what I'm saying?
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It's like it.
Was hers like who?
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Always seems to shit.
It's like it also said I hate
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him.
But it was like it was
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controlled aggression, man, you
know what I'm saying.
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Besides, besides APR getting too
late hits, but it was like we
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ain't getting kicked out of the
game.
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We're not going to target when
he starts to slide.
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We'll whatever, we're going to
hit him every play.
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Though that first one wasn't
going to be that bad, but Fuga
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got a piece of calandry at the
end and he just fell right into
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where APR was coming through and
and just teed off on it, man.
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The second one, yeah.
A little little, little, little,
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little late.
But you know.
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They should have never threw one
on Burgos, though.
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Burgos was just legitimately
there as he was finishing his
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throw and they were just like,
all right, y'all got to stop it.
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Y'all got to stop hurting it.
You're being mean.
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But then y'all saw it, and we
saw it while watching the game.
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Like when that happened so quick
early.
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You could see he was.
He was thrown off his back foot.
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He short armed a few.
He created the errant throws and
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the lane should have had a pick
6.
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Oh yeah.
Dodge That ball was right there.
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I.
Don't like those hands?
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Yeah, right.
But we eventually get one.
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But as as we were talking about
last week and probably Pete, you
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talking about as well, it's like
we do this, it's he's gonna
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force it.
He's already he's kind of a
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turnover machine, which, yeah.
You know, do you remember the
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Maryland game?
I know it was a little while
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ago.
He threw 3 picks on three
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straight throws.
And they were winning that game
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when all that was happening,
right?
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They had a chance.
I mean, the kid, he's shown an
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ability to make plays and be
dynamic in the past game and
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whatnot, and we really made him,
for that first half look God
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awful.
Yeah, yeah, the kid has moxie.
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Whatever you want to call it,
but like.
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He's still, he's still a true
freshman quarterback and he
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looks the part a lot of times.
And we made him look every bit
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of true freshman quarterback for
that first half.
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Yeah.
Now, now something, Brian, you
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mentioned a few minutes ago and
we all saw it and it's always
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it.
It's the worry part.
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It was our rush defense because
we've seen we've sprung leaks at
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times this year.
We come off the game versus NC
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State where Armstrong has some
really good runs and we don't
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control that and Calandry does
have a little wiggle to him,
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but.
You know, at the end of the day,
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43 yards net, 29 rushes, like
they couldn't run the ball and
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and that's that made me
alleviate because when I saw
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them like early, like they can't
find holes because you know, I
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hate to say this, we're five and
six each year and every game we
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lost.
We always had a big run, strong.
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I mean, that lost the Marshall
game, that helped swing the
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Rutgers game.
The Purdue game as well and it's
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like you're sitting here and and
it's just the type of fans I
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know we all are.
It's just like, oh God, they're
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just like they're going to get
like a 45 yard run.
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Well, you know what?
Early in the game, what?
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You know, when I was texting,
y'all, I'm like, we're going to
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win.
There ain't nothing to worry
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about.
You know how Shelton is.
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He's looking at our analytics
all week.
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No, they don't.
They're not good here.
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We're good here.
So he's doing that.
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But I'm just like, I'm looking
at this and they're not going to
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win.
Like we're going to beat them
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and we're going, we're going.
I mean, when did you guys, when
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did you guys feel that?
Though that's what I was going
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to tell you so during the game.
When Pollock tackled, I think
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his pace from their team and he
kind of twisted his ankle up and
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he had to had to go in the
locker room for a minute.
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Just the way that he made the
tackle.
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I didn't want anybody to get
hurt but we have been so bad at
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not wrapping up or not game
tackling or not making sure
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tackles.
When he tackled him in the
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backfield and it was like just
a.
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A good back, good tackle for
loss.
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I was like OK, they're ready to
play.
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So from then on I was like
they're not going to run the
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ball we're we're and that was
early in the game that may have
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been first quarter, was that the
one where Hollins got his leg
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rolled up like was it?
Hollins that got rolled up.
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That's it was, yeah, yeah, yeah,
it was Hollins.
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And I think it might have been
hollered that that took him
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down.
But yes, I I remembered that and
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I was like, OK, that was that
was the game.
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We did look like he got twisted.
Yeah, because you got so many of
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of games that we go back to.
That guy doesn't make that
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tackle and that run goes for 20
yards.
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So that run goes for 15 yards or
goes for a first down and
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extend.
When he made that tackle in the
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backfield and just how he made
that tackle, I was like, yeah,
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it's going to be a rough day for
them.
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Yeah, I I hate to see a kid get
hurt.
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I didn't want him to get rolled
up on.
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I think I was, you know, I think
he came back in the game, so
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that's good.
But when we made that tackle I'm
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like, yeah, it's it's over.
Y'all, might as well just go
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ahead and get your Pinatas out.
You were.
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You were earlier than me because
I needed the Gosnell touchdown.
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As soon as we got that does that
10 point margin and that
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beautiful call that gave us a
ton of momentum.
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I was like I think we're good.
I I really, it felt like at that
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moment with the with the way the
crowd reacted and everything, I
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was like, I feel pretty good
right now, being up 10, nothing.
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Ziegler, if I recall.
Have we?
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Did we get up 10 nothing this
entire season and not ultimately
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blow out or win the game?
We got up and it would blow.
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Out or about 10.10 point
advantage.
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I don't, I don't think we had a
got to a 10 point advantage the
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whole season and didn't
ultimately win the game.
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So I mean that that was one
option.
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The the one that kind of stood
out to me from a defensive side
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was when they first threw that
that first like tunnel screen
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out to Malik Washington and we
had like 8 hats to the ball that
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that was, I was like, OK, we're
playing like we need to.
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I don't think they're going to
be able to do a whole lot
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offensively, and I thought we
were going to have have enough
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juice.
I didn't know we were going to
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score 55 points, but I thought
we were going to have enough
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juice to to to put that one away
at that point.
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Yeah, that was reminiscent of
the Wake Forest game and the
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Syracuse game, that gang
tackling that swarming.
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We saw that in those two games.
We we didn't really need it as
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much in the BC game because BC
just like really played awful
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and called a terrible game.
But, but in the weight game and
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the Syracuse game, you saw that
gang tackling and having hats
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near the football and it was
there on on Saturday.
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I'm with Pete.
Pete, it was the guys now
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touchdown A because of where we
were in the ballsy call and if
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you saw that play develop.
We were getting the first down
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regardless if he had handed it
to two and we were getting the
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first.
If Kyron decides to run as he's
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rolling out, we're getting the
first.
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But instead they suck everybody
in and he just got just ran
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right under and it was just
gone.
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But, but you see him going to
that play and it's like the
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nerves are on that play.
Like if we don't get this, I
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feel OK because they have done
nothing offensively.
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They got the ball to Washington
to try to get a first down and
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they could not get it.
But I'm with you Pete.
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That touchdown was it like?
It was just like.
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They're not going to be able to
score more than two times in a
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row to get back in this game.
Speaking of Washington, if you
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look at his game stats, Oh my
God, he killed us.
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If you would have told me, just
look at the game stats, I would
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have been like they won this
game 14 for 1:15.
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Oh my God.
But then you actually look at
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the real stats first half.
Y'all do y'all know what he did
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in the first half?
It wasn't that.
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It wasn't 100. 50 right under 35
or 26 is all he had in the first
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half.
So he Pats at it like crazy.
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We'll get to, you know why,
where he should have been.
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But if you told me he went for
1:15, if I was sitting here and
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y'all were a little bit drunk,
y'all didn't know what was
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happening in the game,
Washington's going to have 115
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yards.
Y'all be like.
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Yeah, that's not good.
Probably not good for us.
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Probably not a good day
especially when you you know
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think well if he's got 100 and
you know 15 yards that means
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Fields probably has at least 80
or 90 and you know, but I mean
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that that's why when you look at
look at the game it's it's a
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different story though.
I mean they really didn't do
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anything offensively until like
late the third quarter.
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I mean, I.
Mean he caught some.
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Even then, at that point, it's
like the game was out of.
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Reach he caught some passes on
somebody #27 I think he.
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I don't know.
I think he was in the stands at
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the beginning of the game, No
disrespect.
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I think his last name is
Childers or something like that.
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He's a white DB.
How many white DBS?
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You know, that's good.
Like he caught some passes on
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him.
So I don't know how many yards
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he caught on him.
I'll go back and look.
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But by the time they start
trying to pass that, I mean we
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had some stat pad, we had some
third stringers and I mean it
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was four boys in.
You know that it was 38 to
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three.
You're gonna you're gonna ease
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your foot off the gas a little
bit on defense.
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I kind of wish we hadn't I kind
of wish we had won 55 to 3:00.
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But it's it's OK.
I also, I mean, after they
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kicked that field goal, there
was there was a party
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apparently.
About the light.
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Show.
Yeah, man, the light show came
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on, man.
Light show and fireworks and
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fireworks.
That's just absolutely
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ridiculous.
Yeah, that's that's one you
447
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,600
gotta somebody, somebody in the
booths got to check out of that.
448
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:39,320
That's what he called audible.
You can't.
449
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,440
You can't be doing that, man.
And I'm going to call an audible
450
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,520
because it's a set up right to
what we talked about.
451
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,120
We're talking about all three
phases of the game.
452
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,520
Let's talk about the special
teams, because after that
453
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:52,840
happens, they do the fireworks,
they celebrate their field goal,
454
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:56,160
which you don't look for a field
goal down 31 to nothing.
455
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,720
You can go for the touchdown,
tune, runs that ball back.
456
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,080
And again, it was Brian you.
It kept it.
457
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,400
It was.
This did feel like an old school
458
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,000
Virginia Tech game because we
were hitting hard.
459
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,280
And then all of a sudden, he
found that crease and found the
460
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,600
sideline and just turned.
That patience, man.
461
00:23:14,120 --> 00:23:16,000
God.
He waited for everything to set
462
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:20,480
up, hit the hole, broke a tackle
up the sideline.
463
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,360
Yeah, that kind of felt like,
I'm sorry.
464
00:23:23,360 --> 00:23:24,560
Brian, no, you go ahead.
Go ahead.
465
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:30,160
No, it just felt like a a
perfect way for Tootin's regular
466
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,960
season to culminate.
Because he has had such a
467
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:39,320
fantastic season and to see all
of the phases of his game, his
468
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,960
burst, his patience and just
like the way he is such a
469
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,840
playmaker all in one play for a
touchdown to basically put the
470
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,360
game out of reach, although it
was already out of reach, that
471
00:23:50,360 --> 00:23:52,920
was amazing.
Don't forget, he went up in the
472
00:23:53,120 --> 00:23:54,560
He went up in the stands and had
the beer.
473
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,160
Yeah, he did he.
Found it too.
474
00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:01,040
So definitely was a great time.
Well, but it just showed you
475
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,560
like that.
Like that was joy right there.
476
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,920
Like you know, most of those
guys when they get near the end
477
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,000
of an end zone, they don't think
about it.
478
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,760
It's find your teammates,
celebrate.
479
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:15,000
He saw the plethora and it was a
plethora of Virginia Tech fans
480
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,760
there and he went to them and
you can see the look on his face
481
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,200
when he come off.
Like I shouldn't have did that.
482
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,840
But it felt so good to to do
that.
483
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,080
Couple other things on special
teams.
484
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:31,200
John Love two for 2 from 40 plus
by the.
485
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:31,960
Way dude.
He's been.
486
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,000
He's been money this year.
He has been.
487
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,320
Money.
He's been money this year, man.
488
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,440
And if you look at him kick
those balls, those balls went
489
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,360
through midway up that that's 50
yard plus.
490
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,520
Shut up John Love on that.
And then how about Donta Lovett
491
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,720
being Johnny on the spot when
they fumble that ball?
492
00:24:47,360 --> 00:24:50,560
Like right there and I know.
How about Lovett?
493
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,160
His mom would love to hit.
Somebody on the sideline and
494
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,000
murdering them.
You think that kid ain't ready
495
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,960
to get in there and play?
Yes.
496
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,360
Golly.
Yeah, he's ready, man.
497
00:25:01,360 --> 00:25:04,120
He's ready.
And I mean special teams overall
498
00:25:04,120 --> 00:25:06,040
be just solid solid across the
board.
499
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,080
I mean I think late late the
game we had that that one muff
500
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,760
that kind of is what it is but
no harm no foul there.
501
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,120
But overall we were just a
really good game from special
502
00:25:18,120 --> 00:25:23,440
teams especially love seeing him
you know knocking those those
503
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:24,760
deep ones back.
I'm like wow.
504
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,920
OK, so we we we've got some
range here.
505
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,920
We've got a guy that if we can
get it, you know, around the 30
506
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,480
yard line, we got a guy that can
make those kick kicks pretty
507
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,840
consistently.
That's a big time asset to have.
508
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,400
Well, that's a win.
That's that that they play deep
509
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,840
defense is play different.
If you have a guy that's that
510
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,640
consistent because it's like,
OK, listen, we've got to attack
511
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,960
because they're going to get
three points.
512
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,360
When you're ahead of the game,
it's even more like, you know,
513
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,280
we were ahead, you know, big on
this one.
514
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,760
But you get into a tight game
and it's like you go up 20 to 17
515
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,360
and it's like, OK, you know
what?
516
00:25:58,360 --> 00:26:00,880
There's a 25.
If we don't attack and get a 10
517
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,600
yard loss here, he's going to
pipe this one right down the
518
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:04,960
middle.
It's not going to be a problem.
519
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,600
And now we're going to have to
go score a touchdown to be tied
520
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,760
in this game.
All right, I'm going to flip it
521
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,040
now.
I'm going to go to the offensive
522
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,880
side of the ball.
Yeah, when you're just Willy
523
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:14,920
nilly.
Exactly.
524
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,320
Shout out Andrew there, but
let's talk about the offensive
525
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,720
inside of the ball.
And I can't remember who
526
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,080
mentioned it, but Tyler Bone was
in his bag on Saturday.
527
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:29,600
Yeah, I I had said that.
And you know, I've given and I
528
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,320
think everyone gave Tyler a lot
of crap last year.
529
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,160
I thought this year it was going
to be tough to bring him back
530
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,160
unless you brought in a Co OC.
We didn't do that.
531
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,600
We actually promoted him to
quarterback coach and the
532
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,680
offense looked pretty much the
same and pretty much just as
533
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,200
anemic through the first three
to four games.
534
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,480
But lo and behold, they switch
up the offense.
535
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,200
And we saw some more creative
playmaking and I wasn't sure
536
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:57,240
earlier in the year who to give
credit to because there's been a
537
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:01,120
lot of talk about Brent Davis
and his contributions to the RPO
538
00:27:01,120 --> 00:27:04,080
game and more of the option
looks that we do because he was
539
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,440
from Army.
But I think we know that the
540
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,800
play caller for the games is
Tyler Bone.
541
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,920
We know that we've been able to
schedule some nice play calls at
542
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,440
the beginning of games.
Well, this one was a master
543
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,000
class because the way
everything's set up.
544
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,640
Like if we don't have that
penalty on 3rd and one if you
545
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,600
want to talk about things we
could have done better.
546
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,360
Again, we had a penalty on a
third and one that backed us up.
547
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,320
We might have scored a touchdown
on that first drive.
548
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,720
You know things things kind of
changed after that.
549
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:35,440
But he was, he was absolutely in
his bag, he absolutely was.
550
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,280
And that the Gosnell one was
really beautiful.
551
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,080
But there were so many things
that he did in that first and
552
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:42,960
second quarter that set things
up for later.
553
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,080
Yeah.
And what I liked is that, yeah,
554
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,400
we had the big plays, but we
also had a lot of.
555
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:52,200
Just really good drives that
culminated in scores that
556
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,600
culminated in points.
And so, I mean, it was really
557
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,840
there wasn't anything that they
were throwing at us that that he
558
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:03,720
wasn't ready to have something
to counter or in most cases
559
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,360
being on the attack and taking
the game to the defense and
560
00:28:07,360 --> 00:28:11,520
making them have to adjust.
He really kept them off balance
561
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,760
the whole game.
And and the nice thing was like
562
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,160
this, we knew this wasn't a
ferocious front seven.
563
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,360
I mean there's there's a
linebacker or two that are all
564
00:28:20,360 --> 00:28:23,760
right, but they're D line,
despite bringing a bunch of guys
565
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,440
back, has been a sore spot for
them all year.
566
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,600
And it was when I was looking at
it, and I see that they're 117th
567
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,760
in yards per rush allowed going
into this thing, I was like, I
568
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,400
think we know what we can do in
this game.
569
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,000
And we did it well, and we did.
And we were able to hit them
570
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,960
with some different things.
You know, the thing that I like
571
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,160
the most you were talking about,
you know the the front seven
572
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,200
there, we, we attacked them
early and often.
573
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:53,320
They really had to keep Sanker
in the box most of the game to
574
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,640
stop that.
And I think that's what opened
575
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,280
up some of the deep stuff that
that kept him in a spot where he
576
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,840
was having to kind of play in,
in a conflict situation whether
577
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,120
I'm going to support the run,
support the pass.
578
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,880
So it really kept them off
balance and didn't let let
579
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,000
Sanker kind of.
Yeah, he he was still out there.
580
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,680
He was a tackling machine but he
was in a spot where he was in
581
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,160
conflict the whole game.
He got dragged into the end
582
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,080
zone.
He did get dragged into, he did
583
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,840
get dragged into the end zone.
Felton did that to him and that
584
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,680
was that 84 yarder and and again
I think it's Shelton is a big
585
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,400
explosive play guy.
P If if you don't know Shelton,
586
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,640
I know.
I follow your guys stuff.
587
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,280
I God, he he follows it so
close.
588
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:38,520
But on Saturday, I mean, we
think about it, that's 35 points
589
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,680
or it's 28 points between the
Gosdale 44 yarder.
590
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,360
Then you got the Holloway on
that little fake trick.
591
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,880
By the way, they studied that
XTB play last week so hard that
592
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,800
when they act like they were
running to him, the whole
593
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,920
defense went to him and Tucker
just had a lane.
594
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,440
It was just like Kyron got to
stand in and try to act like he
595
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:57,160
was blocking.
He.
596
00:29:58,360 --> 00:29:59,680
Just skipping.
He was skipping.
597
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,720
He was a little shuffle, little
shuffle, just getting loose.
598
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,120
I'm so happy for Tucker, for
that, that touchdown, man.
599
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,680
Wearing the 25 and everything
like that was that was very
600
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:10,720
cool.
And you're right, man.
601
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,120
They they thought they read it.
But they read it wrong.
602
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:18,080
They read it completely wrong.
But it's it's having those guys
603
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:23,000
like that and that is what what
has been missing for years at
604
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:27,280
Virginia Tech is having the
multiple explosive guys.
605
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:32,440
And and we saw how well that
this staff recruited in the
606
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:36,360
portal last year with Tootin,
with Felton, with Jalen Lang,
607
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:40,040
where all those guys that at any
point in time they can pop a big
608
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,600
one on you.
And that changes the dynamic of
609
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,440
a team.
You don't have to plot every
610
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,680
time.
There is not enough teams in
611
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:51,200
this country good enough to take
it and go 10 plays, 75 yards
612
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:55,000
every single time.
With eight yard, 12 yard plays,
613
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:59,000
you have to hit home runs.
And and not every You can't.
614
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,320
You can't be late to late, late
2000s Wisconsin.
615
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:03,280
Every.
Damn.
616
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:07,120
Time, especially not us.
No, no, we ain't got the.
617
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,040
We ain't got the Joe's to do
that.
618
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:10,960
All right, Well, y'all.
What did y'all think about
619
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:15,840
Kyron's performance?
I mean, my guy, he's my guy,
620
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,560
man.
I mean he, he does what he's
621
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,760
supposed to do.
I think you mentioned it
622
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,880
earlier.
You know, I got between a couple
623
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:27,280
of different chats and you know,
groups and things like that.
624
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,840
Somebody said on one of his runs
where he had opportunity to go
625
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,960
out of bounce.
And somebody said, man, he needs
626
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,600
to get out.
You know, he doesn't need to.
627
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,440
He didn't need to try to run
people over.
628
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,440
He doesn't need.
That's how he plays.
629
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,040
He's been playing like this.
You know what I'm saying?
630
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,520
Like as a football player, you
can't think this is the play.
631
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,240
I'm going to get hurt.
You know what I'm saying?
632
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,320
I just don't think that's in his
DNA.
633
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,200
You know what?
I'm I'm not in his head, but I'm
634
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,200
watching him play.
He knows when he needs to get
635
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:56,480
down.
He knows when he needs to get
636
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,080
out of bounds.
But like sometimes, man, that
637
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,400
mentality that he brings to the
offense, it's just.
638
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,360
You can't really put it on
paper.
639
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,840
You know what I mean?
You can't really say this is a
640
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,680
stat, but it'll be a run because
you know in every game you can
641
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,040
go to a run where he just wants
to punish the defense.
642
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,520
And I'm sure he walks back to
the to the huddle and say, did
643
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:17,960
you see what I did to these
motherfuckers?
644
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,520
Like, they ain't.
They don't want to smoke for
645
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,960
real.
They ain't you when you got your
646
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,000
quarterback that has that kind
of confidence.
647
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,600
It exudes through your whole
offense, even when you a fucking
648
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,840
sucky offensive lineman, when
you got a quarterback behind you
649
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,160
that's talking like that and
then he has that kind of
650
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,480
confidence.
It does give you a little bit of
651
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:40,240
Nope.
It lost you there, Tally.
652
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,440
Yeah.
Well, Brian, you got something
653
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,200
on this.
Yeah, I was just going to say
654
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:48,320
like, he's smart with it too.
The way he attacks, when he,
655
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,680
when he decides whether he's
going to run through a guy or
656
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,480
not, man, Because you see it
and.
657
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,160
When he does that, he's he knows
that he has the leverage.
658
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,880
So he he's the guy that's
bringing the impact.
659
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,080
He's not meeting a guy that's
coming at him full speed.
660
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,080
He's meeting the guy that's
standing there broke down and
661
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,840
he's going to run through him
and I think so.
662
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,760
So it's very selective with how
he does that, but it definitely
663
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:17,320
is a a way to have that mental
edge against the defense when
664
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,480
you do it like that.
And there's if there's ever a
665
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,640
game to send a message and not
go out of bounds.
666
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,160
It's the last game of the year
against your rival.
667
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:26,920
Let it.
Let it all hang out, man.
668
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,080
Like, unless you're going to
knock yourself out of the game,
669
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,640
Logan Thomas style.
Getting getting a concussion
670
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,960
against UCLA.
Like, yeah, send a message
671
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,320
because it's the last game of
the year.
672
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,360
Run yourself into the ground
because you ain't playing for
673
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,240
three weeks.
You might not play again if you
674
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:41,960
don't win the game.
So I loved it.
675
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,640
I thought Carmen played a great
game.
676
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,800
I don't care that his percentage
was what, under 59?
677
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:52,760
Yeah, because. 30% of his
completions went for touchdowns
678
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,720
and he made the throws he
absolutely needed to make and
679
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,680
they were perfect.
The the throw to Lane that
680
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,960
didn't count was perfect.
The throw.
681
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,800
The throw to Felton that did
count was perfect.
682
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:10,120
The Gosnell throw was perfect.
Like 244 yards on 10 completions
683
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,960
like that is absolutely
ridiculous.
684
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,719
I know the 84 yarder helps, but
he had 50 yards rushing too, so
685
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,520
we're talking about.
Around 300 yards from that guy
686
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:25,040
on basically 7 plays that that
did something, that's that's
687
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,840
incredible production.
He's a gamer, man.
688
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,679
He's a gamer.
He is a gamer and it's.
689
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,320
And by the way, I don't know if
y'all mention this.
690
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,080
Sorry I had to step offline
there for a moment.
691
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,800
No UV as quarterback did not
outplay him.
692
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,199
No.
If you want, let's just look at
693
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,159
QBR really quick.
Oh yeah, well he threw for just
694
00:34:41,159 --> 00:34:43,560
as many yards and almost as many
touchdowns.
695
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:49,800
QBR was 73.2 for Kyron and 21.7
for Anthony Colundry.
696
00:34:50,199 --> 00:34:52,320
Yeah, he didn't.
Watchers telling us who played
697
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,400
better in this game or something
like, did you watch the game?
698
00:34:54,679 --> 00:34:55,840
No, they didn't.
They didn't.
699
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:57,760
They just wanted to try to talk
their boy up.
700
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,120
Yeah, it's it's always fun when
people look at stats and then
701
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,360
like, Oh well, the stats
actually say that he had a
702
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,680
better game too.
Like, what do you did you watch
703
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,120
the game?
Did You're not even looking,
704
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,520
You're not even looking at stats
correctly?
705
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,560
Yeah, exactly.
All right.
706
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,960
Another couple quick things to
play.
707
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:19,920
Run game was awesome Tooting 7 +
a carry on top of that 94 touch
708
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:28,320
94 kickoff return touchdown and
then and you know the run game
709
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,720
just again why I feel like I'm
reminiscing.
710
00:35:30,720 --> 00:35:37,800
Again we had a run game all year
like all year 252 Saturday.
711
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:43,280
So if we even just let's just
throw out the 117 and the the 50
712
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,080
from Kyron.
We had other guys getting close
713
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:50,560
to 100 yards in numerous and
various ways and again, it just
714
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,960
when you go almost 7 to KF feels
awesome.
715
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:57,320
Yeah, yeah, that's a team.
It was like 6.8, correct?
716
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,560
I mean, 6.8, we were able to
just push them around.
717
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:05,080
And you're right, Curtis, I
think about the Purdue game and
718
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:09,240
the Marshall game in particular
all year because they were so
719
00:36:09,240 --> 00:36:11,680
winnable.
And if we had had this offense
720
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,120
from the beginning with Kyron,
what could have been?
721
00:36:14,720 --> 00:36:17,960
At the same time, we're not
going to a New Year 6 either way
722
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,240
and we would have been in a bowl
either way.
723
00:36:20,240 --> 00:36:23,520
So it's kind of all right, but
I'm glad that we got to this
724
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:24,880
point.
I wish I had started a little
725
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,440
earlier, but it was a thing of
beauty for the wins that we had.
726
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,800
The run game was working
perfectly that in the
727
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,800
second-half of the year like for
the offensive line that's in
728
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,840
front of these guys and and God,
God bless these these kids that
729
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:42,000
play a line, but it's not the
best unit and we know that.
730
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:49,680
We made the most of it in in
these ACC wins, 1000% and and
731
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,320
for the offensive line you
mentioned earlier, Pete, you
732
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,480
know I'm trying to get Brown on
here but he had a step off like
733
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:58,080
I did.
But that was, in my opinion,
734
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,160
that was the best game they
played all year in every aspect.
735
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:05,120
Run game, pass blocking.
They gave up no sack and it just
736
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,080
like you said, Pete, we were
physical up front.
737
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,200
It like got mentally into their
heads.
738
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:14,160
Go get these guys, grab them and
push them out of the way.
739
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,200
Yeah, it was.
It was good to see you this kind
740
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,720
of what Internet was going in
and out there for a minute.
741
00:37:21,720 --> 00:37:24,600
But I think I would have heard
Pete talking about was when you
742
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:29,080
look back at something like the
even the ODU game, I think we
743
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:33,120
had 100 yards rushing as a team.
You know, you look at the Purdue
744
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,960
game, we had like 30 yards
rushing at 18.
745
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,440
No, we had, we had like we had
like 12 railroad.
746
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,560
It was like 11 or 12, Yeah, 1111
I.
747
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,400
Mean and you think about those
teams now at the end of the
748
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,840
year, it's like Purdue is not a
great.
749
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,560
They're not a good team.
They finished last and you look
750
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:52,280
at the.
Worst.
751
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:53,720
Division and you.
Yeah.
752
00:37:53,720 --> 00:37:55,560
And you.
And then you look at it too.
753
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,960
And then you look at what he
brings to the to the field and
754
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,680
you're like, what were we
thinking?
755
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,000
What were we doing?
You know, and it's just what I
756
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,920
don't want to put so much on on
on Kyron's shoulders, but it's
757
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,480
just little things that he does
like his footwork.
758
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:13,160
I never seen us run the play
where he where he, like Cupid,
759
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,560
shuffles to the sideline and
tosses it and we get in two and
760
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,080
gets on the edge.
Every time we run that play he's
761
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,520
get like 10 yards, you know,
every now and then instead of
762
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,440
Kyron tossing it, he'll just
hold it and then he goes for
763
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,520
1012 yards.
It's, it's.
764
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,040
More than his.
Physical ability.
765
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,440
It's more than the way he plays,
it's more than the way he runs.
766
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,200
It's the belief that he can get
us a win.
767
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,800
I I honestly believe that when
we started hooker in that 2019
768
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:43,160
year and we will make the
comparison one last time, the
769
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,720
team didn't all the sudden get
way better.
770
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,760
Like the the entire team started
playing better because they
771
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,880
believed they had a guy who
could win.
772
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:55,360
And that is really what happened
to this team post Marshall.
773
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,720
Is they're like, you know what,
I think this this guy might have
774
00:38:58,720 --> 00:39:01,120
it and they all play harder
because they think they had a
775
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,560
chance.
Like, there's been so many
776
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,440
examples of this in sports, but
I'll give you 1 real quick.
777
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,640
Steve Carlton back in the day
for the Phillies awful year, he
778
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,680
won 20 games because every time
he pitched the team thought they
779
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,520
could win.
They might have won 60 games the
780
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,800
entire season, but twenty of
them were one Carlton pitch.
781
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:19,840
That's what Kyron gives us.
That's.
782
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,720
Crazy Ryan.
We were talking about the
783
00:39:23,720 --> 00:39:27,560
offensive line here and from our
perspective and again, it's my
784
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,240
unknowing eye.
Tally's kind of knowing eye
785
00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:32,520
because he played in tight end.
He knew things that have to be
786
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,920
best offensive line performance.
All year, Yeah, definitely the
787
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,280
best all year.
I mean, especially when you look
788
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,520
at relatively competition, it's
kind of hard to, you know, make
789
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,440
that judgement, you know, across
the board there.
790
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:48,720
But in terms of just raw output,
yeah, that was that was the best
791
00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:51,800
they played all year.
There really wasn't any.
792
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,280
Presence of that team in the
backfield.
793
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,120
We were consistently moving guys
off the ball.
794
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,800
The run game was working,
whether it was going to Tuden,
795
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,400
you know a few carries there for
for Thomas.
796
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,920
We had you know obviously drones
got involved in the running game
797
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,280
there as well.
So we were really kind of doing
798
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,320
whatever we wanted to for for
most of the game.
799
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,600
You know, I don't think they
really had a tackle for loss
800
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,040
until like the late third
quarter or something like that.
801
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,080
So it was it was a really
impressive performance.
802
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:27,240
Like I said, when you look at
the overall picture that that
803
00:40:27,240 --> 00:40:31,400
wasn't a very good front seven.
If if if Sanker wasn't in the
804
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,920
box, we could have really gutted
that team, he.
805
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,680
Was all they had.
Man, that guy.
806
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,520
And the key is good.
Robinson, him and Sanker and
807
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,480
Robinson are not going to be
there all four years.
808
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,040
They're not.
And Sanker.
809
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,240
'S a very good player.
Let's see if we can get the Cam
810
00:40:48,240 --> 00:40:51,920
Robinson to come.
Yeah, up 64, a little bit down
811
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,040
81.
Where he should have been to
812
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:56,360
begin with.
All right, real quick.
813
00:40:56,360 --> 00:41:00,040
I'm going to start with Pete.
Pete, in your eyes, both sides
814
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,160
of the ball, what went bad in
your eyes?
815
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,640
I did mention the false start in
the third and one first first
816
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,920
drive, and that happened against
BC happened in this game both
817
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:10,480
games.
We ended up romping later on
818
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,880
because we showed an ability to
move the ball Despite that
819
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,200
penalty.
Again, I'd say third down.
820
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,080
It wasn't as big of a deal in
this game because we were able
821
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,080
to just get on top of them and
whatever.
822
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:22,760
Third down has been a problem
all year.
823
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,760
It wasn't a great percentage in
this game either.
824
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:29,440
I think we were 6 or 15 or maybe
whatever it was below 50% I
825
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,720
believe, so that could be
better.
826
00:41:32,240 --> 00:41:34,880
I'm not going to rag on the red
zone because we scored so many
827
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,560
touchdowns from far away and I
don't want to take any anyone
828
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,280
else's.
What do you guys got in terms of
829
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:45,800
the what we could do better.
You know, I I think we probably
830
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,360
got a little out of hand with
the roughing the passer there,
831
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,680
especially on you know one or
two drives in a row.
832
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:55,640
But I I think like I said, it
was a good tone setter like
833
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,520
because I feel like from then on
out like they they really knew
834
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,040
that.
All right it's not our day.
835
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,640
It's not our day but you know at
some point you don't want to
836
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,760
hurt yourself.
Really got them into field goal
837
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,000
range.
Thankfully a bad play by them
838
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,320
and a very good play by our
defense got them back out of
839
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,120
field goal range, so.
Yep.
840
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,080
What about you, Tally?
I mean, the only thing you
841
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:17,560
really can point to is
penalties.
842
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,440
You know, I think we had over
100 yards in penalty.
843
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:24,720
So between jumping offsides or
hitting the, hitting the
844
00:42:24,720 --> 00:42:29,000
quarterback late or celebrating
with the fans, all that stuff's
845
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,240
great because you're winning 55
to 17.
846
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,920
But as a whole, you know what I
mean?
847
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,840
Like if you just want to say
what went bad like.
848
00:42:37,240 --> 00:42:38,600
We don't need 100 yards in
penalties.
849
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,280
We know a lot of times when we
play, teams especially like
850
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,120
going into a bowl game, not
knowing who we play.
851
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:44,720
We don't need to get that many
penalties.
852
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,000
Did any of you guys mention the
fumble?
853
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,640
I was getting ready to say it.
Yeah, that's sorry.
854
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:54,240
Goal line again, it's something
we have not seen Kyron do a lot
855
00:42:54,240 --> 00:42:56,880
this year other than like the
first game with Rutgers.
856
00:42:57,240 --> 00:43:01,200
But I mean we we look at him
like this could have been 60 and
857
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,600
if we didn't take our foot off
the gas pedal it might have been
858
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:08,320
70 and like.
And and again but and sometimes
859
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,200
you in a game like this, you
hope stuff like that happens
860
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,640
because I think someone like
Iron Drones watch the next time
861
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,040
he runs down at the goal line.
I guarantee you that thing will
862
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,400
be extra secure because all year
we've seen him, if you've made
863
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:24,040
mistakes, the next time you're
like, you know what he's cleaned
864
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:27,000
that up a little bit like, it's
like he sees it.
865
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,000
I'm not going to do that again.
That hurts my team and I love
866
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:31,800
seeing that.
All righty.
867
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,680
So I'm going to let Pete.
This is our this is the fun one.
868
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,840
Pete, did anything happen you
were completely not prepared
869
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:44,920
for?
You know, I wasn't I wasn't
870
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:49,160
prepared for A50 Burger.
I honestly wasn't like I I did
871
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:53,680
not think we haven't blown out
UVA since 2016.
872
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,840
Before that it was basically
since 2011.
873
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:01,360
So I was, I was just not
prepared for for the I was
874
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,680
expecting and I said it on our
podcast.
875
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,200
A three and a half hour stomach
ache.
876
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:10,240
I was expecting to be stressed
out the whole time and so that's
877
00:44:10,240 --> 00:44:11,800
what I wasn't prepared.
Prepared for.
878
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:16,600
Just like UVA not showing up and
us absolutely being ready for
879
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,720
the moment.
Siegel, I think you've got
880
00:44:19,720 --> 00:44:21,520
something similar, right?
Yeah.
881
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,360
I mean, I was not expecting to
shellac their ass for four
882
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,000
quarters.
I was expecting.
883
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,200
I picked us to win.
Was it 30 to 20?
884
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,320
I think it's what I said.
So, I mean, I was expecting us
885
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:36,480
to have it in hand, but it was
going to be something where I
886
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:37,920
was kind of sweating the whole
way.
887
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,120
I did not expect us to go out
there and beat them 5517.
888
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:47,360
I didn't expect the type of tone
setting on both sides of the
889
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,640
ball that we saw.
I didn't expect them to
890
00:44:49,720 --> 00:44:52,120
completely shit in their shoes
like they did.
891
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,520
So you know, not not even shit
the pants.
892
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,160
If you're shitting in your
shoes, that's a fucking.
893
00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:58,520
Thing.
Talent.
894
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:03,560
What about you?
Because that was a good one.
895
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,160
Pretty good.
Yeah, I I wasn't expecting.
896
00:45:06,720 --> 00:45:08,120
I mean, why don't you not tell
him?
897
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:11,600
I knew he had some speed and I
knew he had some talent, but I
898
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,120
didn't expect.
I watched UVA play a couple of
899
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,040
times this year and they looked
competent against some teams.
900
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,280
Even in some losses, they've
lost a lot of close games,
901
00:45:20,240 --> 00:45:21,480
mainly because they're a young
team.
902
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,200
I didn't.
I didn't expect us to look like.
903
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:29,320
So overpowering and so fast.
Like when you have a, when you
904
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:33,440
have a your running back that
runs a a kickoff back and he
905
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:37,240
starts celebrating and throttles
down at the 30 yard line like
906
00:45:37,240 --> 00:45:42,600
you are faster than that team.
You know 84 yard, 84 yard
907
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:46,200
touchdown with with Felton who
is 65.
908
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,280
I don't even know how much he
weighs.
909
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:52,840
Like he's he he catches the ball
kind of in traffic and just
910
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:56,480
pulls away.
You know it it is crazy to me to
911
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,800
see how much faster we were than
them.
912
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,920
And I think, I don't think like
on paper with that much faster
913
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,440
than them.
I just think that they didn't.
914
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,400
They didn't have a will to win
like it was gone.
915
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,160
I I totally agree, man.
You think about those 3 plays
916
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,320
that you mentioned in every
single one and you actually you
917
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,760
didn't mention the lane.
Call you back.
918
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,200
I mean, he had two or three guys
in front of him.
919
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:21,640
And split right through Felton,
same thing.
920
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:26,440
And Tootin had some blockers but
still like we looked so much
921
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,840
more athletic and faster than
them and that without, you're
922
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,160
right I wasn't totally prepared
for that because since they're
923
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:37,480
bye week UVA has played very,
very well and knocked off UNC.
924
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,160
They almost knocked off
Louisville.
925
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,160
They they played a really tough
game to overtime with Miami.
926
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:46,640
So they beat Duke exactly as
Robert has pointed out, like.
927
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,840
I there was a lot of things in
that regard and it's similar to
928
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:52,960
what me and Brian said that we
just didn't expect.
929
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,520
I'm going to tell you what I
what I didn't expect, y'all is
930
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,320
and it's on the off defensive
line what they did.
931
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,960
I can see that happening.
I didn't expect the offensive
932
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:03,960
line to play the way they did
the off.
933
00:47:04,240 --> 00:47:06,760
But Brian you've been Brian's
been saying the last couple
934
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,760
weeks and some games like that
things are clicking they they
935
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,280
don't look as slow.
Yeah, false starts.
936
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:13,760
But Brian, you've kind of been
saying like?
937
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,080
Something's happening.
Something's happening with the
938
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:20,400
younger guys.
It's it's just slowly, it's a
939
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,560
slow ground.
You get a coach in March, that's
940
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,120
the way it's going to happen.
But I didn't expect us to
941
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,680
dominate the trenches.
If you say, hey, we had a good
942
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,760
game, we rushed for 200 yards.
We, you know, we we, we gave up
943
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,280
a couple sacks.
We played good.
944
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,480
No, we dominated.
We dominated.
945
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:42,400
And that's, you know, that's
when it goes, that's when it
946
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,760
goes to.
Mentality and I'm going to we
947
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:47,640
got a question here from Derek.
Yeah.
948
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:49,880
I'm on this question, man.
I'm.
949
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,120
Going to put this up and I'm
going to Pete because you're our
950
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:55,360
guest.
I'm going to let you go last so
951
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,400
you can think about it, Brian,
what's better, Ryan Williams
952
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,280
versus State, Felton against
FUVA.
953
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:02,440
You know what?
I got to go, Felton, just
954
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:06,440
because it was against UVA, man.
Tally.
955
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:11,000
I mean, it's hard to compare
those two because Ryan Williams
956
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,160
ran somebody over.
You know what I'm saying?
957
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,200
Like in the middle of the field
he he runs somebody over and
958
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:20,720
then you got and then you got
Felton drag somebody into the
959
00:48:20,720 --> 00:48:23,520
end zone and then hops up and
starts dumping on the other
960
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,600
player.
Like you know what I'm saying?
961
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,040
And then and then walks up to
him and starts talking junk and
962
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:29,360
the guy doesn't even turn
around.
963
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,760
So I it's hard, man.
It's hard to pick.
964
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:36,080
But I I'd have to go Felton.
I I you know, I'm going to say a
965
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,720
little sweetness, Ryan Williams
because.
966
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,200
The way he had Earl Wolfe
sliding on his butt like that
967
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,440
was so embarrassing.
That was the guy, right?
968
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,200
Earl Wolfe and he.
Took him right into the end
969
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,520
zone.
He was incredible.
970
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:52,800
To Tally's point, he ran him
over and then he grabbed the
971
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:54,240
jersey.
You usually see that at the
972
00:48:54,240 --> 00:48:55,800
like.
It was like it wasn't like the
973
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:57,680
three or four.
It was like at the 8.
974
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,280
And he grabbed him and pulled
him and Williams just.
975
00:49:01,720 --> 00:49:04,360
I'm I was born and raised in the
country it looked like a tractor
976
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,720
pull because Williams body went
up and it was just like no I'm
977
00:49:07,720 --> 00:49:09,960
going to just keep dragging you
until I get the touchdown.
978
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,120
So we're split on that but great
question there.
979
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:16,800
I we usually do this because we
have things to look forward to.
980
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:21,320
But I mean I'm, I'm going to
kind of put a retrospective on
981
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:26,840
this if if you told me, if you
told us after Marshall that we
982
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:30,120
would be making a bowl that the
only teams that we lost to.
983
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,160
Were a combined and I got to do
the record in my head real
984
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:39,000
quick.
What, 23 or 32 and six?
985
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,080
That's the only teams we lost to
Y'all.
986
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:46,360
They're combined 32 and five.
I do the math right?
987
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,400
No, hold on, you got you got a
game in there somewhere.
988
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,320
Yeah, odd number, so that that's
definitely not right.
989
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,120
We.
Lost two We lost zero.
990
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:57,680
Louisville's lost 2.
That's two.
991
00:49:57,720 --> 00:50:01,960
State lost 331 and five.
That's the only three teams.
992
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,840
We've lost two after Marshall.
Yeah, and you can say, well, you
993
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,240
played the bottom of the
conference, But you know what?
994
00:50:07,240 --> 00:50:09,120
Sheldon sent me this and y'all
seen it out there.
995
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,840
They're only like 7 teams that
beat 5 conference opponents by
996
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:14,480
17 plus points.
We're.
997
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:19,120
Wanting I was arguing with some
SEC fans early on Facebook and
998
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,800
they was telling me how bad the
the ACC sucks and things like
999
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:24,640
that.
They was telling me that Florida
1000
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,960
State wasn't getting in.
Over blah, blah, blah.
1001
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,280
And I was like, you do
understand if they go undefeated
1002
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,560
they're going to get in.
But this they have.
1003
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:35,000
I say Florida State has as much
money as these people that y'all
1004
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:39,480
are naming.
And on top of that go check the
1005
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:41,280
go check the stuff from this
year.
1006
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:46,280
The SEC against the ACC is ACC
is 6.
1007
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:50,760
The SEC is 4.
I think it's like, so you're
1008
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,160
telling me how bad the ACC
substitute that beating the
1009
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:57,560
mighty SEC.
No disrespect, LSU.
1010
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,400
Do they be week 13?
I argue.
1011
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,360
With them, I argue with them
every, like every time I go to
1012
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,480
the barbershop, we have the same
talk and maybe Florida without
1013
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,120
their starting quarterback man.
And let.
1014
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,240
Let's also talk about, since
we're talking about going
1015
00:51:11,240 --> 00:51:14,720
bowling, let's talk about the
ACC with the most bowl teams
1016
00:51:14,720 --> 00:51:15,000
this.
Year.
1017
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,440
I think we got 12 teams, right?
Of the P5, that is correct.
1018
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:22,600
We are 11 bowl teams.
Only the Sunbelt has more
1019
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:26,360
because.
JMU got in on on the on, on.
1020
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:28,160
The type of card, not.
Enough.
1021
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,040
Not enough teams eligible, but
the entire Eastern Division,
1022
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,640
including our first opponent
ODU, is bowl eligible.
1023
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,720
And is the only what is the only
teams not bowl eligible that we
1024
00:51:38,720 --> 00:51:40,920
played this year.
There's a couple.
1025
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,400
Three, Yeah.
The only team we lost to that's
1026
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,080
not bowl eligible is Perdue.
Yes.
1027
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,800
Yes, it's craziness.
Well, let's keep going and talk
1028
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,280
about a few other things because
I think we're going late this
1029
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,600
night, boys.
Let's talk about the All ACC.
1030
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,560
First of all, there are no
Hokies on the first team.
1031
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:03,360
I'm sure y'all all saw that and
who got OK Where's the bigger
1032
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:05,280
robbery?
And I'll start with Pete.
1033
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,880
Here is the bigger robbery.
Actually there's three.
1034
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:15,560
So APR being a second teamer,
defensive line basial to be a
1035
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:19,600
second teamer all-purpose, even
though he's 27th in the country,
1036
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,960
third in the conference, and
he's the only one with all the
1037
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,160
all-purpose yards.
Or is it Dorian Strong Thirteen?
1038
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,720
We saw Treadmill Horse put some
data out there.
1039
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,400
Other people put the PFF data
out there.
1040
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,040
Where's the bigger robbery?
I think APR is the biggest
1041
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:37,960
robbery and and the reason why
is because you can make the
1042
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:43,040
argument that people didn't
throw on us enough or at Dorian
1043
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:46,040
enough to warrant him getting on
first team.
1044
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:49,080
I might be able to buy this.
I think he should be first team,
1045
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,960
to be clear.
But I think APR, just by putting
1046
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:55,720
up 9 1/2 sacks and being at the
top of the conference on AD line
1047
00:52:55,720 --> 00:52:58,560
that was at the top of the
conference, he should have got
1048
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,960
recognized as first team.
I think that is BS especially.
1049
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,960
I know there's some, there's
some very good pass rushers in
1050
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,960
the ACC, NC State and FSU and
whatnot.
1051
00:53:08,240 --> 00:53:10,600
But you put up those kind of
numbers, you have some of the
1052
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,800
games that he had and all the
pressure that he brought.
1053
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:17,440
I feel like APR is the biggest
snub, but I'll let you guys make
1054
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,880
a case for anybody else.
Callie Who you got?
1055
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,360
Who's the biggest snub?
It's hard to pick, man.
1056
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,240
But you know, I I would have to
say APR as well.
1057
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,480
You know, the two thing kind of
kind of bothers me because you
1058
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,000
know, they got Keon Coleman on
that, which is the offseason.
1059
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,640
Great player, but they got him
on there like 3 different
1060
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:36,280
things.
You know what I'm saying?
1061
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,440
It's just like, oh, just 'cause
he's on Florida State, we're
1062
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,920
going, we're going to suck his
Dick and put him on, put him on
1063
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,560
this, this and this.
Like 3 different spots.
1064
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:46,000
Really.
You know what I'm saying?
1065
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,960
And like, I think he was on
there as a return and he had no
1066
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,400
touchdowns.
How do you get on this return?
1067
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:52,600
I don't think he had any
touchdowns.
1068
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:57,160
Tooting tied for the national
lead with two return touchdowns.
1069
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,600
I mean, I know, look, I know
it's the difference between 1:00
1070
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:02,080
and 2:00 or zero.
It's not very much.
1071
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:05,040
It is very much.
Those are very hard to score.
1072
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,640
That's very hard to score.
You know what I'm saying?
1073
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:10,320
They've changed things so you
can't score.
1074
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,720
They want people to Kick It Out
of the back of the end zone.
1075
00:54:12,720 --> 00:54:16,400
So when you get an opportunity
and you go score, you know, like
1076
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:17,760
that, That's a big
accomplishment.
1077
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:25,880
So.
He got, he got choked up, he got
1078
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:29,200
choked up, I got messed up.
Kind of like Robbie said with
1079
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,200
APR stats alone or just, you
know, So I think they should
1080
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:33,080
have got in first team.
Yep.
1081
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:35,280
He's AI mean.
He's a top ten.
1082
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:38,480
He's a top ten in the country,
sax top ten in the country.
1083
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,000
That's great.
Is that working on favor though,
1084
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,320
Curtis with him not getting that
first?
1085
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:44,680
Oh my.
God, yes.
1086
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:47,200
Yes.
I think it works in our favor.
1087
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,040
I think it works motivationally,
wise in our favor.
1088
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,520
I do not want to be the
quarterback, whoever we play in
1089
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:55,440
that bowl game.
Siegler, yours.
1090
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:58,640
Yeah, I'm going to have to go
with Dorian Strong here.
1091
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:02,440
When you think about shut down
corners and and and Pete brought
1092
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,560
this up, you know him not
getting that many targets.
1093
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:09,880
Part of being a very good corner
is not letting guys get open
1094
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:11,640
where you're going to throw the
ball their direction.
1095
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:18,120
So if you are locking up guys
like that and it's not just the
1096
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:21,400
target, so the targets are low,
sure, but the targets are are
1097
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,000
not significantly lower than the
two guys on first team.
1098
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:28,520
Look at the percentage, the the,
the, the catch percentage.
1099
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:30,840
It's crazy.
It's like 28%.
1100
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:36,440
It's insane.
And that was lower, lower, 4/4
1101
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,760
and 1/2 percentage points lower
than the one of the other first
1102
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:44,320
teamers.
And he had three interceptions,
1103
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,960
3 interceptions.
The other one of the others on
1104
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,880
first team had five.
I think the other one had I
1105
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:56,560
think one or two.
So interception wise, completion
1106
00:55:56,560 --> 00:56:00,400
percentage wise, yardage he he's
leading in all of those
1107
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:02,760
categories.
Like I said the interception is
1108
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,120
the only one where he doesn't
have as much as any of the other
1109
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:07,680
two first teamers.
He he's in second in that case
1110
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,640
definitely should have been one
of the the the two two players
1111
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:13,080
on first team.
I I.
1112
00:56:13,240 --> 00:56:15,720
You know what?
You know what it might be?
1113
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:19,760
It might be the the 40.
The 44 might be doing it.
1114
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:21,760
Man get get that man a single
digit.
1115
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:25,920
Give him a single digit.
Yeah, Tally's hated that 44 all,
1116
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:27,520
all, and now it's costing him
time.
1117
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:31,400
I'm going to go last year and by
the way, that is our coach Buddy
1118
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:35,840
Robbie Compton out there.
So always, always following.
1119
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,000
He's got great Internet.
Now he's going to chime in so
1120
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:39,160
much when he's not coaching
there.
1121
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:41,360
I loved when you guys had him
on.
1122
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:43,720
What was that over the summer?
Maybe that was.
1123
00:56:43,720 --> 00:56:46,480
That was a great episode.
Robbie's great, man.
1124
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:50,760
Robbie, I mean, I mean, all I
can say is Robbie's got a guy
1125
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:54,480
playing in the NFL now.
So, I mean, you don't, you don't
1126
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,480
get to do that.
All right, I'm going to go mine.
1127
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:58,360
And I kind of tipped it off a
little bit.
1128
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:00,120
What I said to Pete, there is
spatial tune.
1129
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:03,680
It's the AP is the all-purpose
player.
1130
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,440
Facial Tune is 27th in the
country, the throat clear.
1131
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:11,360
You know what's getting to.
This basial tune is 27th in the
1132
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:15,920
country with 14136 all-purpose
yards.
1133
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:19,320
There are only two ACC players
who are ahead of him.
1134
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:22,400
Talk to him, Kurt.
One is Malachi Washington.
1135
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:26,480
Malachi Washington.
Did not even break 300 yards on
1136
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:30,360
kickoff returns this year.
He had very minimal rushing
1137
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:32,000
yards.
That's not all-purpose.
1138
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:34,320
You're a great receiver.
Yes.
1139
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:39,080
The other one is O'marion
Hampton from North Carolina.
1140
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:44,160
Over 1400 yards rushing, only
about 200 yards catching the
1141
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:46,480
ball.
Basial Tootin Keon Coleman.
1142
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:49,160
Let's not even get into that 700
passing yards.
1143
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:53,200
Like 150 rushing in.
Like 300 punt return yards.
1144
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:56,000
Not even close.
He's not even on the first page
1145
00:57:56,240 --> 00:58:01,600
of the data board.
Here's our boys 727 rushing
1146
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:08,160
yards, 220 receiving yards, 489
kickoff return yards.
1147
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:13,480
He did not even have 200 plays
to get 1400 yards this year.
1148
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:15,680
Crazy.
And you know what, Curtis?
1149
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:19,480
It's not even does O line not
factor in.
1150
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:23,760
That would be my contention is
that you look at those numbers
1151
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:27,080
and then take into account the
old lines the other guys are
1152
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:29,000
playing behind and what Tootin's
playing behind.
1153
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:33,200
It has to play a factor and our
just our roster strength in
1154
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,040
general.
I believe it got significantly
1155
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:38,160
better than last year, but to
put up all that all-purpose
1156
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:40,840
yardage.
With a with a roster and
1157
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:43,720
swapping quarterbacks a few
games into the year, it is
1158
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:45,640
absolutely impressive and he
should be on that.
1159
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:49,040
First, let's let's talk about He
pretty much started the season
1160
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:52,600
with a hand behind his back in
those first two to three
1161
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:53,720
outings.
Yeah.
1162
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:56,600
He was breaking 10 tackles for
one yard.
1163
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:00,240
He looked like Pacheco out
there, man.
1164
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:05,280
I would love to get that data of
how many he broke this year,
1165
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,280
because he broke a ton and I'd
love to do it as.
1166
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:10,320
This oh, you got to check out
the the Doug Bowman article on
1167
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:13,080
247.
Just put one out and it was like
1168
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:17,600
we broke a ridiculous amount of
tackles and and yards after
1169
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:19,320
catch and everything.
That that article was really
1170
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:21,040
good.
Just show you who put it out.
1171
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:22,920
Player Doug.
It was Doug.
1172
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:26,080
Yeah, he said, he said.
I think in that article it said
1173
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:30,800
two broke like 61 tackles and
and last year.
1174
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:34,840
I think we were led by Keyshawn
King, who broke like 19.
1175
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:39,240
You know, it was, it was a crazy
different number for what what
1176
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:41,400
they did.
This is a great point here,
1177
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:44,360
probably brought up.
Think about that.
1178
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:47,440
He put those sort of numbers up
with drones getting up.
1179
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,560
There were games where drones
were doing a lot of carrying
1180
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:51,000
too, so that's even more
impressive.
1181
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,200
Again, they screwed up.
They got some right, don't get
1182
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:56,640
me wrong, they got some right.
But they definitely screwed.
1183
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:58,720
I think at least two of our guys
out of first team, and I think
1184
00:59:58,720 --> 00:59:59,800
Dorian at least should have
been.
1185
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:01,880
What about John Love?
Shouldn't he be first team?
1186
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,160
He's like 9th in the country in
field goal percentage.
1187
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:06,840
Is love even only hold on?
I think I don't know mentioned
1188
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,280
mention got.
I don't mentioned he's like, I
1189
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,560
think he's second in the ACC.
Yeah, he should have been at
1190
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:13,920
least second team.
So it's a lot of things.
1191
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:15,800
All right.
I got to turn to a little bit of
1192
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:19,720
sad news here and this is going
to become a segment from here on
1193
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:21,720
out and it is going to be
discussion of the portal.
1194
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:24,320
We're going to have to give it
and to take it away.
1195
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:27,720
And unfortunately Brian, sorry,
right there I'm.
1196
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:32,080
I'm I'm going to survive, man,
because this is Brian's boy day.
1197
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:33,360
Quality and the poor went out
earlier.
1198
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:35,560
Well, yeah.
Is that where you went a little
1199
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:36,600
bit earlier?
Did you go ahead?
1200
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:37,840
Because you knew we were going
to talk about it?
1201
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:39,720
Had it.
Given my cat was throwing up on
1202
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:43,000
the carpet, oh wow.
We had also had issues tonight.
1203
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:46,240
My boss, she's now passed out
over here on her bed, so she's
1204
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:47,960
good.
I don't know what was going on,
1205
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:52,560
but Daquan right enters the
portal third this year in both
1206
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:54,560
receptions and receiving yards
for Tech.
1207
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:58,960
There are some things, and I'm
not going to mention what I've
1208
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:03,120
heard, but the apparently
there's some things going on in
1209
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:06,320
other parts of his life that
potentially could be affecting
1210
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:07,880
this.
It seems like this may be an
1211
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:11,880
amicable split.
I hope it is, but it hurts
1212
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:15,560
because I mean that guy he, he's
growing.
1213
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:17,280
I mean he got better as a
blocker.
1214
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:19,040
Brian, you mentioned several
times this year he's he's
1215
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:22,520
showing better.
It stinks and.
1216
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:26,840
Well, you know, there's there's
the rule that you can only have
1217
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:29,880
one Daquan on a team and we
already had Felton and like we
1218
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:31,360
already broke that rule for one
season.
1219
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:32,880
So he's got to go,
unfortunately.
1220
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:38,160
But I, I he was such a good
playmaker for us in a spot of
1221
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:42,120
need because we lost Gallo
before the year and we needed
1222
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:44,400
some guys at tight end to step
up and him and Benji.
1223
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:48,080
Kind of traded off on that role
and while at times their
1224
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:52,320
blocking was a little subpar,
they were very good playmakers
1225
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:53,960
and and Daquan Wright will be
missed.
1226
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:58,840
Definitely.
Yeah, I mean, he's that kind of
1227
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:00,960
guy that gives you a lot of
matchup nightmares.
1228
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:03,840
I know we didn't use them in the
red zone a lot, but in the
1229
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:07,040
middle of the field, when you
can match him up against a
1230
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:10,440
linebacker, match him up against
the safety, I mean, he was
1231
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:13,360
really, he could really eat.
On those crossers, those deep
1232
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:16,280
crossers, he was doing a lot of
good things in, in those areas,
1233
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:20,160
just really giving drones a
target in the middle of the
1234
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:22,280
field.
So that's going to be missed big
1235
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:26,720
time.
I'm really little little torn up
1236
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:31,280
about it, but I like what we
have in in in in Benji Gosnell.
1237
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:33,920
I feel like he's going to be a
guy that can step into that
1238
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:36,200
role.
I just think that when you talk
1239
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:41,360
about the the, the things that
show up on a stat sheet.
1240
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:44,400
I feel like right ceiling was
significantly higher than what
1241
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:45,640
we probably will get out of
Benji.
1242
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:49,960
But in terms of overall what a
tight end has to do, probably
1243
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:52,760
Benji would be the better player
in that just because I think his
1244
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:57,160
blocking overall is better and
you can use him in line a lot
1245
01:02:57,160 --> 01:03:01,120
more than you can use Daquan,
right, 100%, right.
1246
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:04,160
We've been going an hour here
and we're still not to the break
1247
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:06,160
because we've got to talk about
next year.
1248
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:09,360
We've got to talk about there's
already some guys we know are
1249
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:13,160
not coming back, some medical
situations, we got some COVID
1250
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:15,600
year stuff.
This is a huge shout out.
1251
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:19,200
David Cunningham from tech
sideline, Brian got in touch
1252
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:24,160
with him and he was able to
provide us with this and there
1253
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:28,200
are five guys that they're done.
There's no way they can come
1254
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:31,000
back.
It's Mario Kendricks, Norell
1255
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:33,560
Pollard, Darius Payne.
That's a lot of defensive
1256
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:36,520
tackles right there.
Tisdale and Nasir Peoples.
1257
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:42,040
What y'all's feels?
I mean, I feel like Tally, you
1258
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:45,080
joked earlier, it does feel like
Pollard's been here like 19
1259
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:51,880
years, Kendricks, but I mean, I
think we we I say that right
1260
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:52,960
there.
Y'all got to say it.
1261
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:55,800
We we've got to go get some guys
in the portal for defensive
1262
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:58,880
tackle without a doubt.
Yeah.
1263
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:01,200
I mean the go ahead, Pete, I'll
let you run.
1264
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:04,200
Go first.
I'm sorry Brian I keep I keep
1265
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:08,760
talking over my host here the
Fuga like do we have to just
1266
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:11,680
like make sure he comes back is
that someone we're like because
1267
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:13,760
at this point it's such a spot
of need.
1268
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:16,720
I feel like we want to keep as
many that are eligible to come
1269
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:22,040
back in the house because it is.
It's going to be rough with it's
1270
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:24,160
it's Payne, Pollard and
Kendrick's.
1271
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:25,440
Right.
Pollard.
1272
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:30,240
And all three.
All three, which is, Which
1273
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:33,960
leaves just Fuga and Panay as
guys who play significant
1274
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:35,680
repetitions this year.
That's it.
1275
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:41,400
A lot of young guys who have,
you know, you got like Gunnard
1276
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:44,480
Givens, you got Lamar Law.
I'm missing one here.
1277
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:48,240
Malachi Madison.
But they didn't get the reps and
1278
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:48,480
you.
Yeah.
1279
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:51,400
I was going to say you were so
pretty deep in that in that
1280
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:54,000
defensive tackle spot, you
didn't get a lot of young guys
1281
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:58,520
reps that were significant, so.
I mean, just got to pray that
1282
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:01,280
the portal giveth.
We got to go get some people out
1283
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:04,880
of the portal to fill some of
those spots, some older guys
1284
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:07,880
that's ready to play.
Got to have at least two
1285
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:11,000
defensive tackles in the portal
that are ready to play and
1286
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:14,360
that's if you know Fuga decides
to come back.
1287
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:18,120
And I feel like at this point,
as Pete alluded to, you got to
1288
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:20,720
do as much as you can to get him
back because even if he's not
1289
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:24,320
your your frontline player.
Depending on what you get from
1290
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:26,040
the portal, he's certainly
somebody that you're going to
1291
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:28,680
want to lean on from a
leadership standpoint and from a
1292
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:31,160
depth standpoint next year.
Just from knowing the defense,
1293
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:34,840
knowing how to how to handle
those situations and also again
1294
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:37,480
from a leadership perspective
kind of knowing what it means to
1295
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:39,720
carry the lunch pail and things
of that nature.
1296
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:43,360
So having him back I think would
be would be clutch.
1297
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:49,480
But yeah, definitely got to hit
hit the the portal hard on the D
1298
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:52,160
tackles.
Feel like you also probably need
1299
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:55,880
to to grab a Mike linebacker in
there with with Tisdale moving
1300
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:58,680
on.
You know some of the other guys
1301
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:03,240
having some up and down points
of the season where we really
1302
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:05,880
couldn't really find a lot of
consistency until kind of the
1303
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:07,760
the back half of the year at
that position.
1304
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:11,040
So I'm I'm definitely think
that's probably going to be one
1305
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:13,000
that we are targeting as well
and.
1306
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:15,960
I guess safety is kind of wait
and see.
1307
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:19,360
Obviously we had periods of the
season where people's wasn't in
1308
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:22,400
most of the start of the year
also coincided with some of the
1309
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:25,560
areas where we were, you know, a
little bit more leaky than you
1310
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:28,480
like to be on the back end,
especially in the run game.
1311
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:34,560
So do we see some more guys step
up that are younger that got
1312
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:38,600
some playing time this year,
whether that's a a Jalen Jones
1313
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:42,120
or a?
Most Phillips you know do they
1314
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:44,440
take a step in the offseason
where you feel comfortable about
1315
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:47,160
that position or you know do you
go out there and get another
1316
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:49,600
safety as well to kind of fill
in there.
1317
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:52,960
So we really got some decisions
to make just in those got that
1318
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:55,040
you know the the guys here that
are done, done.
1319
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:57,880
You know all three of those are
positions probably of need that
1320
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:00,880
you maybe you at least want to
consider if not attacked pretty
1321
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:02,120
hard in the Portal this
offseason.
1322
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:06,440
Yeah, 100% on that.
With both those groups.
1323
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:08,600
Let's talk about the medical
situation.
1324
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:12,320
Nick, you've got Nick Gallo out
there who lost this season, you
1325
01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:14,800
know, basically never played a
down.
1326
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:18,280
And then you get Ollie Jennings.
I think the Ollie Jennings
1327
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:20,680
situation, I believe he's coming
back.
1328
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:22,480
Full throttle.
Hope so.
1329
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:26,240
The, the, the, the tweet that
went out, I don't know if it was
1330
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:32,200
last night or today alluded to
that being the case, but we
1331
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:34,600
don't have anything that is
official, official but.
1332
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:38,400
Based on that, I would say it's
a very good chance that we are
1333
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:42,720
getting Ollie Jennings back for
a a medical red shirt, a final
1334
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:45,920
season there.
And then you know after we
1335
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:48,600
talked about that we got you
Nick Gallo as Curtis mentioned
1336
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:52,280
and with with right going.
Is that something that we try to
1337
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:54,200
press to get Gallo back for
another year?
1338
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:58,000
Is that something that he wants
to to kind of move forward with?
1339
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:02,720
And if he doesn't, is that
another area where we need to at
1340
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:06,160
least get a guy?
That can be a rotational piece
1341
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:09,200
to go alongside Benji Gosnell
heading into next year.
1342
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:14,240
Tally, I'll let you go on.
This, I mean when you think
1343
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:16,479
about tight ends, if we're
talking tight ends.
1344
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:23,080
We're talking tight ends, Tally.
Yeah, Nick, Nick Gallo deserves
1345
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:25,279
to to be able to play if he
wants to play.
1346
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:30,200
But to come off of an injury and
then think about, you know, the
1347
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:32,640
injury that he's had a
significant knee injury in the
1348
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:34,439
bend.
Taking all these hits these
1349
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:38,240
years, I don't know that he
brings this offense, what it
1350
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:40,040
really needs, You know what I'm
saying?
1351
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:43,160
I think Benji can bring what
Nick Gallo can bring them
1352
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:44,640
together.
It's just going to be the same
1353
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:45,840
player.
You know what I'm saying?
1354
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:47,800
And what we need is what Wright
is.
1355
01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:51,200
So I don't know how you go out
and find that, You know what I'm
1356
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:52,560
saying?
UVA did it a couple of years
1357
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:58,240
ago, which what was his name?
Jelani Woods, maybe That fucking
1358
01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:00,080
beast that they had at tight end
like.
1359
01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:04,399
You got to go find somebody like
that that's going to be kind of
1360
01:09:04,399 --> 01:09:09,479
a a yin and Yang with with with
Benji there but what I really
1361
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:13,680
need to see a little off topic
pry can you go get your
1362
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:17,840
linebackers use the linebackers
guy go get just like a white boy
1363
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:21,200
that's got blood between his
eyes like he can look just like
1364
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:22,960
Dax.
I just want him to be faster and
1365
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:28,520
a little bit taller, like just
go get that person because that
1366
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:32,600
I don't know, man like.
UVA always has like 1 crazy
1367
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:34,479
white dude that's like at middle
linebacker.
1368
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:37,680
That's just all over the field.
And I want to say, you know like
1369
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:41,600
Peyton, Peyton Wilson.
I know there's not many of him
1370
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:45,120
in the world, but if there is
one, can we go find him?
1371
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:47,800
Like, I just need to see that
would that that would drive
1372
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:50,240
Virginia Tech fans crazy.
Like they love that they look
1373
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:55,120
Dax what Dax Hollyfield will be
a He probably never pays for
1374
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:57,800
anything in Blacksburg just
because of what he looks like.
1375
01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:00,320
Like he was just.
The typical linebacker, you know
1376
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:02,080
what I'm saying?
And he did have a very good
1377
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:06,560
senior year and leading up to
that you could argue maybe he
1378
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:10,440
didn't live up to his recruiting
ranking or as as maybe as we put
1379
01:10:10,440 --> 01:10:14,040
it on him like we expected a lot
from Dax when he got to got to
1380
01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:16,160
Tech.
But his senior year was great
1381
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:19,400
and I'm with you Tally like and
NC States had a couple like they
1382
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:21,560
had Drake Thomas, and then they
went to Payton Hills and they
1383
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:24,440
had them both at the same time.
If you could get just one of
1384
01:10:24,440 --> 01:10:27,000
those guys, I can think of one
that's playing in the state
1385
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:28,360
right now.
And no, I'm not talking about
1386
01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:31,720
Stone Snyder from last year,
which didn't work out so well.
1387
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:35,760
The kid Jason Henderson at ODU I
was talking to.
1388
01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:38,000
Some of the guys on the.
Sun Saturday through Could you
1389
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:44,200
imagine if we got that guy like
you know a Scooby right type to
1390
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:46,920
come in here and just make
tackles like we?
1391
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:50,920
It would change our defense so
dramatically and we desperately.
1392
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:54,040
Need a Mike linebacker?
Like a real like.
1393
01:10:54,080 --> 01:11:00,000
I'm not sure I see a guy on the
roster that is a true Mike right
1394
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:03,600
now and so like that.
That's an absolute need.
1395
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:08,080
But just to double back to Gallo
real quick, he is walking that
1396
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:11,960
fine line between a thank you
for your service card.
1397
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:14,840
And please come back because I
can't.
1398
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:17,640
I can't quite decide.
I love the Gallo brothers.
1399
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:20,520
They are, they're true bangers
for real from Pennsylvania.
1400
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:23,880
Like they I I watched a lot of
games with Eric and Philly.
1401
01:11:24,440 --> 01:11:26,400
I saw him at the Rutgers game
when I was up there.
1402
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:29,480
Absolutely great guy.
Eric Gallo, awesome hokey.
1403
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:32,360
And Nick would help us next
year.
1404
01:11:32,440 --> 01:11:35,120
He would help us.
But Harrison St.
1405
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:38,200
Germain, There was some good
talk on him back in, you know,
1406
01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:40,480
preseason camp or maybe even
last year.
1407
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:43,400
And then?
Obviously we got, you know,
1408
01:11:43,480 --> 01:11:46,160
Benji is is is going to be a
stud at some point.
1409
01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:48,760
So what do you want to do with
the roster spot?
1410
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:51,040
I don't know.
But I don't think pride is going
1411
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:53,440
to.
He's never going to tell Nick to
1412
01:11:53,440 --> 01:11:54,720
walk away.
You know he would.
1413
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:56,280
He would take me back in a
heartbeat.
1414
01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:59,160
I don't know much.
I don't know much about the kid.
1415
01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:01,920
I've seen him play his high
school stuff, which was crazy to
1416
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:05,040
me, kind of how he slid to us.
What is it?
1417
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:06,560
Zeke Wimbush.
Yeah.
1418
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:11,320
So he's going to like he.
His body size and the things he
1419
01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:13,520
can do reminds me of what Wright
can do.
1420
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:16,240
I just haven't seen him do it on
the collegiate level, of course.
1421
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:20,240
But Wright came right in as a
freshman and and was able to be
1422
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:24,560
kind of what he is.
Zeke has the opportunity to be
1423
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:27,560
in the weight room for a year,
so who knows what we get out of
1424
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:28,160
him?
I don't know.
1425
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:29,920
I haven't heard a lot of talks
about him.
1426
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:34,760
I seen a couple of videos on him
before the season and I seen him
1427
01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:37,360
play in high school and Lauren
Johnson talked about him.
1428
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:40,240
When they played him.
When when Highland Springs
1429
01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:43,240
played him, and he was, if not
the best player on the field, he
1430
01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:45,680
was one of the best players on
the field against Highland
1431
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:48,040
Springs, which was the best team
in the state.
1432
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:52,440
Correct me if I'm wrong, Brian
or Curtis, but wasn't Zeke a?
1433
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:55,480
Was he originally supposed to be
a Gray shirt that they
1434
01:12:55,480 --> 01:12:57,720
ultimately gave a scholarship to
for this season?
1435
01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:01,680
I think, I think he was more of
a lot of upside, but a little
1436
01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:04,080
bit of a developmental project.
And hey, maybe it got started
1437
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:05,720
early because he got here
earlier.
1438
01:13:06,480 --> 01:13:08,840
Yeah, he was supposed he wasn't
going to be a Gray shirt.
1439
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:10,120
He was going to be a preferred
walk on.
1440
01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:13,360
And then he he did good enough
where they they gave him the
1441
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:16,280
scholarship early and y'all been
talking about here.
1442
01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:20,560
I'm like over here at, you know,
on three looking at the transfer
1443
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:23,040
portal tight ends and being
like, who can we get from here?
1444
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:26,240
Who actually makes sense.
But we've got some other guys
1445
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:27,480
too.
And you know what?
1446
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:29,080
I'm going to do this a little
different.
1447
01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:31,320
We're not going to talk because
we're an hour and 15 in and we
1448
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:34,800
got a lot more to cover with
Pete and I I have work tomorrow.
1449
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:37,720
Everybody has to work tomorrow.
I don't feel like being here
1450
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:39,320
till midnight.
This ain't stay of the program
1451
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:41,920
on a Friday night, which, Pete,
we might be sending you a link
1452
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:43,840
to come.
All right.
1453
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:46,680
I'd be honored.
Yes or no answers.
1454
01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:48,040
All.
I want to give you the names
1455
01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:49,960
these guys are eligible for
COVID years.
1456
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:56,840
Y'all ready Grant Wells, Brian.
No, no.
1457
01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:59,040
OK.
We're all a no, I'm a no.
1458
01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:04,840
Steven Gosnell, Pete.
Yes, White, Iverson Tally.
1459
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:09,200
They froze.
The man froze.
1460
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:11,680
Siglo.
I'm a yes.
1461
01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:15,120
I'm a yes.
Tally really likes White Iverson
1462
01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:15,680
A lot.
Yes.
1463
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:17,520
And notice Steven Gosnell, White
Iverson.
1464
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:19,600
Yes.
All right.
1465
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:23,720
Jay Lane Tally.
Yes.
1466
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:27,400
Yes, thumbs up.
Big thumbs up.
1467
01:14:27,440 --> 01:14:30,840
Yeah, big thumbs up.
Believe it or not, Clayton
1468
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:35,400
Frady, the transfer who came
from Gardner Webb, is eligible.
1469
01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:38,360
He only played in one game this
year, came really late.
1470
01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:43,240
Brian, you're the man.
You're the offensive lineman.
1471
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:48,440
Whether so, I'm going to say
tentative yes, but a lot of this
1472
01:14:48,440 --> 01:14:52,040
is going to depend on how many
scholarships we are giving to
1473
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:55,240
guys in the transfer portal
because if I've already seen us
1474
01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:58,280
throw like 3 or 4 offers out
there to offensive lineman, so
1475
01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:05,640
if that keeps up, I'm a no.
Especially if if those transfer
1476
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:10,120
portal players are of a more
seasoned caliber than Freddy is.
1477
01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:12,680
At this point, the fact that
Freddy didn't really come in
1478
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:17,120
here and at least crack that
that rotational spot in in a
1479
01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:19,680
weak offensive line room doesn't
really inspire confidence.
1480
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:23,480
I know he came in late, but, you
know, sometimes you just got to,
1481
01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:26,400
you got to cut your losses and
say, all right, well, we tried.
1482
01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:30,520
We're getting into the portal
earlier this cycle on the
1483
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:33,200
offensive line train.
We are not waiting for the
1484
01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:36,560
second window to really get
aggressive about going after
1485
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:38,320
offensive lineman like we did
last cycle.
1486
01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:41,480
So I'm I'm like I said
tentative, Yes.
1487
01:15:41,480 --> 01:15:44,840
But if we start getting some
guys committing to Virginia Tech
1488
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:47,760
in the portal, I say he's one
you got to let walk.
1489
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:51,000
Yeah, you put it best when you
said cut your losses because
1490
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:54,880
this this was a roulette spin.
You just see, hey, could we hit,
1491
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:58,520
you know, red or black on
Clayton Frady and we bet black
1492
01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:00,840
and hit red like that.
That's essentially what happened
1493
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:02,960
here.
And like if you this, it's all
1494
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:05,200
it's up to Crook if Crook thinks
he can work with them and get
1495
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:07,520
something out of him next year.
But this is not a young player
1496
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:11,280
and so if he came in here and
couldn't get in on this old
1497
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:13,720
line, I I think we have our
answer.
1498
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:17,840
Yep.
Clayton Frady Tally the.
1499
01:16:20,440 --> 01:16:22,880
Office.
No, he said.
1500
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:26,880
He done nothing.
So no, I'm I'm a no, I think
1501
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:29,680
that there are some young guys
between what we saw from Garrett
1502
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:34,560
what we saw from Brody Meadows.
Unless he absolutely turns it on
1503
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:35,560
a we get nothing out of the
portal.
1504
01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:37,600
Which I don't think.
I think we're going to get some
1505
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:41,720
stuff out of the portal.
All right, Fuga Tally go.
1506
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:45,280
I got to say yes, we got we
don't.
1507
01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:48,520
Yes, yes, you said don't go into
it.
1508
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:51,360
Yes, we'll just say yes.
We don't have the luxury to say
1509
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:52,120
no.
It's a yes.
1510
01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:54,120
There you go.
It's a.
1511
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:56,440
It's a yes.
It is a yes and tally.
1512
01:16:56,440 --> 01:16:58,760
I know what you're going to say
and I'm going to sum it up.
1513
01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:02,680
We losing 3 bodies.
We only got 5 that played this
1514
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:04,440
year.
You can't go into a defensive
1515
01:17:04,440 --> 01:17:07,120
tackle room with two, so he has
to stay.
1516
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:10,120
I'll go to the next one.
Here is Kiante Jenkins.
1517
01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:12,440
We've had Kiante on before and
I'm yes, it's.
1518
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:15,160
And it's not the Caleb Woodson
isn't ready.
1519
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:18,480
There's nobody ready behind
Caleb Woodson and at that
1520
01:17:18,480 --> 01:17:20,880
position you've got to have
somebody, so bring it back
1521
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:26,840
Keonta.
I'm a yes. 100%.
1522
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:29,440
Yes, I'm a I'm a yes as well.
Yeah, absolutely.
1523
01:17:29,440 --> 01:17:33,840
I'm going to do 2.
The kicker Hoeven.
1524
01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:35,080
Long snapper Pollock.
Sorry.
1525
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:42,840
Guys, No, they got.
No, I'm good on both of them.
1526
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:46,400
Sorry.
It it's it's John loves proven
1527
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:48,160
what he can.
It's like we've got a proven
1528
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:50,840
younger long snapper.
We got proven kicker, we got a
1529
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:54,480
kickoff specialist.
Sorry, this is the interesting
1530
01:17:54,480 --> 01:17:59,400
one because I did not know this
Derek Canteen can add an
1531
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:01,200
additional year via medical Red
Shirt.
1532
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:04,800
Yes.
Absolutely, please.
1533
01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:08,480
Absolutely A 100% and I'm going
to go back to something, Brian
1534
01:18:08,480 --> 01:18:11,560
said.
Canteen, play some safety this
1535
01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:12,560
year.
We know we're going to be
1536
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:16,320
probably less in that room that
lessens that blow potentially
1537
01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:20,040
there big time.
Well, we also have got word in
1538
01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:24,800
the last, you know 24 to 48
hours that our cornerback room
1539
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:30,800
is a high priority for other
teams throughout the throughout
1540
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:32,160
the country.
So tampering.
1541
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:38,320
Yeah, it is tampering.
So I I would definitely say, you
1542
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:41,240
know, you want to keep as many
guys in the building as you can,
1543
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:46,360
so that's a big yes for canteen.
All righty.
1544
01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:49,480
I'm going to hit these real
quick because again, we're
1545
01:18:49,480 --> 01:18:52,440
running, we're running super
with a lot of times here.
1546
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:58,320
I think over the last week, I
think men's hoops has looked
1547
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:02,160
better.
Women's has scared me the last.
1548
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:04,440
Week because men's hoop got
drilled.
1549
01:19:04,440 --> 01:19:08,240
What?
Yeah, but decent team.
1550
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:12,000
I mean, FAU was a very good
team, but I mean.
1551
01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:17,000
So what we saw against Boise and
Iowa State is what I hope we
1552
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:22,200
would see for most of the year.
What we saw against FAU is not
1553
01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:27,760
what I want to ever see again
this year because aside aside,
1554
01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:29,920
like I knew they were going to
score some points.
1555
01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:36,440
I was very disappointed in our
offensive output and I know we
1556
01:19:36,440 --> 01:19:40,080
live and die by the three, but
at some point you got to shoot
1557
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:41,800
better than that.
Yeah.
1558
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:45,600
Have you ever?
Seen us get whipped like that.
1559
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:47,360
It's like when coached by Mike
Young.
1560
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:49,000
I don't think we've ever been
whipped, no.
1561
01:19:49,480 --> 01:19:59,280
It was crazy to, I mean.
Alabama Internet's getting
1562
01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:01,520
actress tonight.
Yeah, it was a Final Four team
1563
01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:03,400
from last year.
We all understand that and in
1564
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:06,440
fact one of the other Final
four, Miami was just playing
1565
01:20:06,440 --> 01:20:07,800
against Kentucky a little bit
earlier.
1566
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:11,280
I didn't see how that one ended
because that the SECACC
1567
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:13,680
challenge, whatever is, is going
on right now.
1568
01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:17,400
I'm not even used to that.
But yeah man they they kicked
1569
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:20,360
our tail.
And I I'm, I'm kind of just,
1570
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:22,760
it's one of those things where
it's like let's just forget it
1571
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:25,440
and move on and see how the rest
of the season goes, because that
1572
01:20:25,440 --> 01:20:28,360
was just a you never see a Mike
Young team play like that.
1573
01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:31,120
It's true.
All righty.
1574
01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:35,280
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Now back to the episode.
All righty.
1607
01:22:02,440 --> 01:22:05,400
So now we get to the second-half
of our episode.
1608
01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:07,600
We don't have no The Enemy this
week.
1609
01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:10,840
I hope next year at this time we
are talking about that, but we
1610
01:22:10,840 --> 01:22:13,880
brought Pete on for a reason.
Pete has been basically watching
1611
01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:16,160
college games all year, as we
all do.
1612
01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:19,880
But if y'all haven't watched
Pete's show comes on, you stream
1613
01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:21,360
it live.
I've seen it, I've occasionally
1614
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:23,320
watched it at work, it's
occasionally taking me off.
1615
01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:27,120
Some things I'm doing.
You've been following just the
1616
01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:30,080
season in general and that's why
we wanted to bring you on for
1617
01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:33,920
this because obviously we've got
all of the games this week with
1618
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:36,720
the Championship games.
But one other piece I wanted to
1619
01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:40,480
discuss with you, Pete, was a
lot of the coaching vacancies,
1620
01:22:40,480 --> 01:22:42,760
hirings and firings.
And as of today, I'm going to
1621
01:22:42,760 --> 01:22:45,280
read them all of what's still
open.
1622
01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:47,480
I might be missing a few since
the updates.
1623
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:51,320
San Diego State, New Mexico,
UTEP, UL, Monroe, Indiana,
1624
01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:54,040
Houston, Boise and Duke are
still open.
1625
01:22:54,200 --> 01:22:55,640
I don't think anybody else has
gotten fired.
1626
01:22:55,640 --> 01:22:57,480
If I've missed one, Pete, let me
know.
1627
01:22:58,240 --> 01:23:02,440
But Pete?
Obviously we're going to focus
1628
01:23:02,440 --> 01:23:05,600
on the Duke one, because the
other ones, yeah, maybe they
1629
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:09,080
compoke somebody that you know
was a good coordinator or a good
1630
01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:12,760
position coach from the ACC, but
Duke someone we're going to have
1631
01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:16,280
to play.
What are we hearing on the Duke
1632
01:23:16,280 --> 01:23:22,240
front of what's going to happen?
Because in most in our lifetime,
1633
01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:25,920
Duke doesn't get back-to-back
good head coaches.
1634
01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:27,920
They had Spurrier in the late
80s.
1635
01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:32,720
And then it legitimately took to
cut Cliff in the mid 2000s
1636
01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:34,360
before they had another decent
coach.
1637
01:23:35,240 --> 01:23:38,480
Yeah, and you know, Cutcliffe
worked himself into a position
1638
01:23:38,480 --> 01:23:42,080
where he did the Frank Beamer.
He became a victim of his own
1639
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:44,640
expectations and obviously he
got a little longer in the
1640
01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:47,680
tooth, but he deserved a chance
to walk away.
1641
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:50,320
When he wanted to, he more or
less did.
1642
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:53,480
And they go out and they hire
Mike Elko, someone a lot of us
1643
01:23:53,480 --> 01:23:56,240
hokey fans have talked a lot
about over the past two years
1644
01:23:56,680 --> 01:23:59,680
due to the performance of Duke
and how well they've played.
1645
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:02,800
Mainly because they've had a
fantastic quarterback.
1646
01:24:03,680 --> 01:24:07,200
Once they lost Riley Leonard.
This year that Duke team became
1647
01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:09,920
very beatable.
And so you can see that the
1648
01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:13,680
power of a starting quarterback.
But Elko did a fantastic job
1649
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:15,440
there.
And it's not just Elko.
1650
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:19,920
Duke, over the past two to three
years, has made a real
1651
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:24,440
investment in football.
They had a ton of staffers right
1652
01:24:24,440 --> 01:24:27,280
up there with us, right up there
with Pitt, with all the teams
1653
01:24:27,280 --> 01:24:30,120
that are starting to staff up in
the ACC.
1654
01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:32,360
Clemson has obviously been doing
it for a long time.
1655
01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:36,240
They were one of them.
And that's why you've seen some
1656
01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:40,640
of the results you've seen from
Duke over the past 2345 and back
1657
01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:44,000
into 2013 when they really burst
on the scene by beating us.
1658
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:48,240
But if you go to their coaching
candidates and who it could be,
1659
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:50,640
it really depends on where they
want to go right now, because
1660
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:55,680
they just did the OK, we'll hire
a guy who might look for greener
1661
01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:59,440
pastures in a year or two.
So now do you do the thing where
1662
01:24:59,440 --> 01:25:04,120
you go after a Willie Fritz or
an older coach where, OK, you
1663
01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:07,600
get them and you want this to be
their retirement spot where like
1664
01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:11,800
they can win you 6 to 8 to 9
games a year, whatever it might
1665
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:15,040
be you, you buck up and you
might win 10 once in a while.
1666
01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:18,160
But like, you know, the guy's
not going anywhere.
1667
01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:20,160
That's kind of what we did with
Mike Young, right?
1668
01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:22,760
We we, he, he was been at
Wofford forever.
1669
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:25,400
He's from our region.
He's probably not going
1670
01:25:25,400 --> 01:25:27,120
anywhere, even if he does
really, really well.
1671
01:25:27,640 --> 01:25:30,600
Will they go for something like
that or will they go after a
1672
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:34,640
Tommy Reese, a young hotshot
coordinator type.
1673
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:37,720
I think Sean Lewis might have
just got hired.
1674
01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:39,800
Who?
San Diego State, like literally
1675
01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:41,160
just hired someone if you.
Want.
1676
01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:43,760
Oh, OK, Well, I saw Sean Lewis's
name.
1677
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:44,720
I'll look that up while you
keep.
1678
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:47,400
Yeah, but that that was a guy
who I think he coached at Kent
1679
01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:50,120
State.
He ends up with Dion, Dion,
1680
01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:53,680
demotes him and whatever.
But do they go the young
1681
01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:57,440
coordinator route or do they go
the more, you know, Dave Clawson
1682
01:25:57,440 --> 01:25:58,880
ish route?
Not that they're going to go
1683
01:25:58,880 --> 01:26:00,640
after Clawson himself, but you
know what I'm saying?
1684
01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:04,560
I don't know, but I know the
investment with Duke football is
1685
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:08,360
there and we're never going to
know the salary because of FOIA.
1686
01:26:08,360 --> 01:26:09,480
They don't have to deal with
that.
1687
01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:14,000
So I'm not sure, but those are
just a couple of names that come
1688
01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:17,600
to mind as Fritz and Reese and
and maybe a Sean Lewis type,
1689
01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:19,080
even if it's not going to be
him.
1690
01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:22,800
All righty, Y'all, got any
questions or anything I want to
1691
01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:25,360
say about?
And by the way, you are 100%
1692
01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:29,360
right, It broke with the local
San Diego station 22 minutes
1693
01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:31,680
ago.
Sean Lewis is going to be the
1694
01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:34,240
next head coach of the San Diego
State Aztecs.
1695
01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:37,440
A pretty, pretty solid.
That's a good pull for them.
1696
01:26:37,440 --> 01:26:39,760
And yeah, it is.
And that's a good program like
1697
01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:42,240
they they've been, you know?
They've been good for years.
1698
01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:43,640
Rocky, long.
It's like bringing in bracks.
1699
01:26:43,680 --> 01:26:45,040
Blurmeister.
That's a good yeah.
1700
01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:47,520
Rocky Long, man.
I love Rocky Long, Yeah.
1701
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:50,400
All right boys, y'all got any
questions on about some of
1702
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:52,080
these?
Opening ones for Pete right now
1703
01:26:52,080 --> 01:26:55,120
are y'all pretty good.
I've been hearing some, some
1704
01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:59,880
smoke about Kingsbury going to
Houston, going back.
1705
01:26:59,880 --> 01:27:01,200
I've heard anything about that.
Yeah.
1706
01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:05,480
Yeah, Houston is one of those
jobs that, like in the new Big
1707
01:27:05,480 --> 01:27:09,240
12, when you get into next year
and you're thinking about who
1708
01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:12,600
could win that conference.
Well, with Texas and Oklahoma
1709
01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:16,520
gone and some of those PAC 12
schools coming in, anyone could
1710
01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:18,360
win that conference.
It depends on.
1711
01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:24,280
I don't know how well Dana
Holgerson has built that program
1712
01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:27,400
out.
Despite his name, I don't think
1713
01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:29,680
Holgo is the best coach.
I don't think he's been
1714
01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:31,280
recruiting at a super high
level.
1715
01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:36,200
So Houston, it might take a bit
for Houston to get back up, but
1716
01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:40,240
like once, if they get the right
coach, Houston could be in
1717
01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:42,800
competition to win that
conference every year because
1718
01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:45,440
there is no, there's no blue
blood there.
1719
01:27:45,440 --> 01:27:50,200
Like, TCU is probably the
closest thing you have to like a
1720
01:27:50,200 --> 01:27:53,920
powerhouse in that conference.
Yeah, I'm yeah, OK, you're
1721
01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:55,440
right.
And sometimes I forget about the
1722
01:27:55,440 --> 01:27:58,200
teams that are even coming in.
But yes, Utah could run that
1723
01:27:58,200 --> 01:28:00,000
thing.
They could run that thing in
1724
01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:01,440
over the next 10 years.
So.
1725
01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:05,200
But Houston's got as good a
chance as any in that in that
1726
01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:08,880
conference to compete.
I don't think Cliff is the guy
1727
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:12,080
to help you compete.
I I mean, he, he wasn't good at
1728
01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:14,400
Texas Tech.
He wasn't good in the NFL.
1729
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:16,680
So now he's going to be good.
Like I I don't think so.
1730
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:19,240
Ron, you got any you want to
discuss?
1731
01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:22,760
You know that that's really the
most interesting one in my
1732
01:28:22,760 --> 01:28:26,600
opinion outside of Duke, which
obviously directs us, affects us
1733
01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:30,320
directly.
It's going to be interesting to
1734
01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:35,040
see what they do at that at that
spot because like Pete alluded
1735
01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:39,560
to like they could really kind
of make that that that home for
1736
01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:42,480
them if they if they do well,
they could kind of turn that
1737
01:28:42,480 --> 01:28:44,920
into a powerhouse in that
conference.
1738
01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:48,400
They've got money they they're
in Texas like they there's
1739
01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:52,480
there's advantages there and I
mean of course you know
1740
01:28:52,480 --> 01:28:55,880
Arizona's had a good year.
Arizona State it always seems
1741
01:28:55,880 --> 01:28:58,600
like a sleeping giant.
Like they might be able to to
1742
01:28:58,600 --> 01:29:02,880
pop up and be good, but like
Texas, it's all about football
1743
01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:04,600
in Texas and and Houston's right
there.
1744
01:29:05,480 --> 01:29:08,520
Arizona State always seems to
get like, get good players, but
1745
01:29:08,520 --> 01:29:10,640
they.
Struggle to put it together for
1746
01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:13,200
any sustained period of time,
but they'll always have that
1747
01:29:13,440 --> 01:29:15,920
like one year here or there
where they'll pop and get like
1748
01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:18,040
nine or ten wins.
They had Jaden Daniels.
1749
01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:22,000
They did.
Hey, here's the question I've
1750
01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:25,800
got with these openings because
obviously there's going to be a
1751
01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:27,760
significant amount of money
attached to the job because
1752
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:29,680
they're in the Big 10.
Who is going?
1753
01:29:29,720 --> 01:29:32,160
Who is willing to put their neck
out to take Indiana over?
1754
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:38,240
Yeah, that Indiana is another
one of those really tough spots
1755
01:29:38,240 --> 01:29:40,520
to win.
I would liken it to a Syracuse
1756
01:29:40,920 --> 01:29:45,160
where there's not a lot of
historical success, but you've
1757
01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:49,240
got a Big 10 paycheck.
And if your university decides
1758
01:29:49,240 --> 01:29:53,080
to make the focus, like they put
a lot of money behind Tom Allen
1759
01:29:53,080 --> 01:29:57,360
that that buyout, it's like one
of the highest ever in college
1760
01:29:57,360 --> 01:30:01,720
football to buy Tom Allen out.
And he, he benefited from that
1761
01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:04,520
COVID season, which was super
weird and they had a they had a
1762
01:30:04,520 --> 01:30:09,360
good year.
But Indiana, it's it's a getting
1763
01:30:09,360 --> 01:30:12,200
rid of the divisions is good for
them because they're no longer
1764
01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:15,200
in the East having to play all
three of those powerhouses every
1765
01:30:15,200 --> 01:30:17,000
year.
But you're also adding Oregon
1766
01:30:17,000 --> 01:30:20,240
and UCLA.
So, like, no, Indiana has an
1767
01:30:20,240 --> 01:30:23,880
uphill battle to be good.
Oh, and and UW and Oregon.
1768
01:30:24,240 --> 01:30:26,960
Sorry, yes, y'all.
Are going to talk, Y'all are
1769
01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:30,360
going to talk about Colorado.
They're they're into the Big 12
1770
01:30:30,440 --> 01:30:32,040
and you're right.
So we should have mentioned
1771
01:30:32,040 --> 01:30:33,320
that.
We should have been mentioned
1772
01:30:33,320 --> 01:30:35,640
that when we talked about the
Big 12 because just like
1773
01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:39,680
Houston, Colorado's, if Dion can
do what some people think Dion's
1774
01:30:39,680 --> 01:30:43,680
going to do, they could, they
could be competing for titles in
1775
01:30:43,680 --> 01:30:45,600
that conference too.
But as far as the Big 10 goes,
1776
01:30:46,280 --> 01:30:51,200
Indiana, you'll you'll get paid
and you will have opportunity.
1777
01:30:51,200 --> 01:30:53,120
I mean, Notre Dame, it's Notre
Dame.
1778
01:30:53,360 --> 01:30:54,680
They've got the historical
success.
1779
01:30:54,680 --> 01:30:57,400
It's the same state.
You can't recruit like Notre
1780
01:30:57,400 --> 01:31:00,000
Dame.
You got to find someone who can
1781
01:31:00,000 --> 01:31:03,160
build.
So do you turn to a Tommy Reese
1782
01:31:03,160 --> 01:31:05,400
there?
Because that's another name at
1783
01:31:05,400 --> 01:31:07,720
another position where like
maybe you go to him.
1784
01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:11,080
He knows the state, he knows he
knows offense.
1785
01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:13,480
Maybe you want to score some
points in Indiana, do things a
1786
01:31:13,480 --> 01:31:15,480
little bit differently.
You're probably going to have to
1787
01:31:15,480 --> 01:31:16,600
do things a little bit
differently.
1788
01:31:16,920 --> 01:31:19,760
Yeah, I mean really in terms of
pecking order, they're like
1789
01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:22,480
they're at least third of the
pecking order in their own
1790
01:31:22,480 --> 01:31:25,120
state.
Because I mean Purdue has a
1791
01:31:25,120 --> 01:31:28,280
whole lot more history of
football and success and
1792
01:31:28,280 --> 01:31:31,000
recruiting successes than than
Indiana has ever had.
1793
01:31:31,080 --> 01:31:34,800
So they they are at least third
on the pecking order from a
1794
01:31:34,800 --> 01:31:36,400
recruiting.
It's an uphill battle, man.
1795
01:31:36,400 --> 01:31:38,760
It's a super uphill battle for
for Indiana.
1796
01:31:39,280 --> 01:31:41,080
What'd you have, Tally?
You about to say something.
1797
01:31:42,120 --> 01:31:44,920
Say Indiana had appendix, right?
They did.
1798
01:31:45,200 --> 01:31:48,080
They did.
That was, that was how Tom got
1799
01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:52,560
Tom Allen got that extension.
Oh, man.
1800
01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:54,840
All right, let's go to the guys
who have already been hired and
1801
01:31:54,840 --> 01:31:56,480
obviously now we've got Sean
Lewis.
1802
01:31:56,480 --> 01:31:58,680
And you kind of made your point
that you'd like that hire out of
1803
01:31:58,680 --> 01:32:02,480
San Diego State.
But the other four guys between
1804
01:32:02,480 --> 01:32:05,880
Elko going to A&M, Jeff Levy,
the Oklahoma OC heading down to
1805
01:32:05,880 --> 01:32:08,480
Mississippi State, By the way,
I've told a lot of people.
1806
01:32:09,400 --> 01:32:11,240
They're hiring an offensive guy
in Mississippi State.
1807
01:32:11,240 --> 01:32:13,640
It's just what they do.
They've done it ever since they
1808
01:32:13,640 --> 01:32:15,600
fired Sylvester crew in 15 years
ago.
1809
01:32:16,280 --> 01:32:19,960
Jonathan Smith going to Michigan
State, sort of the the one that
1810
01:32:19,960 --> 01:32:21,360
kind of hurt your soul a little
bit.
1811
01:32:21,920 --> 01:32:25,280
And today Fran Brown, the
defensive back coats for
1812
01:32:25,280 --> 01:32:31,200
Georgia.
OK, I was going to say Foo going
1813
01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:36,080
to Utah or New Mexico.
But of those four, which one do
1814
01:32:36,080 --> 01:32:41,040
you like the best, Pete?
I love the Elko higher for Texas
1815
01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:44,720
A and MI kind of ragged on Texas
A and MA couple weeks back and
1816
01:32:44,720 --> 01:32:50,320
just that like they have no
historical success like a little
1817
01:32:50,320 --> 01:32:52,960
bit here and there.
Johnny Football though is what
1818
01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:56,480
created this whole new momentum.
Them going to the SEC combined
1819
01:32:56,480 --> 01:33:00,760
with that gave them a whole new
breath of life and investors and
1820
01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:04,120
all this kind of stuff.
But you go back, look at look at
1821
01:33:04,120 --> 01:33:07,280
a team like Oregon and a team
like Indiana or a team like
1822
01:33:07,280 --> 01:33:09,240
Texas A&M.
Sorry, got Indiana the brain.
1823
01:33:10,240 --> 01:33:14,040
Oregon's had like 9 top ten
finishes since 2000.
1824
01:33:14,320 --> 01:33:16,680
You'd have to go back to the 50s
to get that for A&M.
1825
01:33:16,920 --> 01:33:20,120
They just have not had the
success on the field.
1826
01:33:20,640 --> 01:33:24,360
They might have more money and
nil power than just about anyone
1827
01:33:24,360 --> 01:33:27,440
else right now.
And so with Elko going there, a
1828
01:33:27,440 --> 01:33:31,240
guy who recruited some of those
kids that are still in that
1829
01:33:31,240 --> 01:33:33,760
building and some of those
really good recruiting classes
1830
01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:37,160
for A and MI think there's a
little bit of continuity there.
1831
01:33:37,440 --> 01:33:39,520
They know what they're getting
with Elko.
1832
01:33:40,320 --> 01:33:42,840
What's weird about the only
thing that I find a little bit
1833
01:33:42,840 --> 01:33:46,720
weird is that Elko is their
second choice, right?
1834
01:33:46,720 --> 01:33:50,240
Like they wanted Stoops.
They got Elko and they're
1835
01:33:50,240 --> 01:33:53,440
probably paying him for like a
slight, slight discount of
1836
01:33:53,440 --> 01:33:56,760
Stoops, but I still think it's a
really good hire, so I'm a fan
1837
01:33:56,760 --> 01:33:58,320
of that.
I think Jonathan Smith actually
1838
01:33:58,320 --> 01:34:02,160
going to Michigan State is
perfect for Michigan State.
1839
01:34:02,360 --> 01:34:05,760
Michigan State is the A&M of the
Big 10.
1840
01:34:06,080 --> 01:34:09,040
They got to compete with
multiple big boys for recruits
1841
01:34:09,600 --> 01:34:13,800
and in the standings, and this
is a guy who can build.
1842
01:34:14,000 --> 01:34:17,880
He did it at literally one of
the four hardest places to win
1843
01:34:17,880 --> 01:34:21,320
in P5 football.
He won at Oregon State.
1844
01:34:21,520 --> 01:34:23,800
I think he's going to go, he's
going to build something special
1845
01:34:23,800 --> 01:34:25,560
at Michigan State.
So I think that's a really good
1846
01:34:25,560 --> 01:34:27,840
one.
The the Georgia one up at
1847
01:34:27,840 --> 01:34:31,040
Syracuse.
It could work out.
1848
01:34:31,440 --> 01:34:34,320
You know how coaching hires go.
We thought Foo was a home run
1849
01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:37,640
when we hired him.
That one's a a little strange
1850
01:34:37,640 --> 01:34:41,520
because, like, he's known as a
recruiter, but, like, are you
1851
01:34:41,520 --> 01:34:43,280
out recruiting anyone at
Syracuse?
1852
01:34:43,560 --> 01:34:49,200
Like, like you have to be able
to develop and have a system and
1853
01:34:49,280 --> 01:34:51,720
we don't know what his system
would because he's been an
1854
01:34:51,720 --> 01:34:54,600
assistant.
So like it that that one's a
1855
01:34:54,600 --> 01:34:56,520
that one's a head scratcher for
me because I thought like
1856
01:34:56,520 --> 01:34:58,680
someone like Dan Mullen could
have done well up there or
1857
01:34:58,680 --> 01:35:00,840
something like that.
But hey, what do I know?
1858
01:35:01,160 --> 01:35:04,200
Yeah, Fran, Fran Brown's a big
time dice roll for them.
1859
01:35:04,440 --> 01:35:07,640
That could really, you know, if
he puts the pieces together
1860
01:35:07,640 --> 01:35:10,240
fast.
That could go well for them, but
1861
01:35:10,240 --> 01:35:13,600
I don't I still, I still don't
think there's like you're still
1862
01:35:13,600 --> 01:35:16,440
capping out at like a eight or
nine win season at Syracuse,
1863
01:35:16,440 --> 01:35:19,400
even if you do all the right
things and make all the right
1864
01:35:19,480 --> 01:35:22,520
moves.
So you know, I don't know what
1865
01:35:22,520 --> 01:35:26,360
that looks like and if it's
worth that type of dice roll for
1866
01:35:26,600 --> 01:35:29,120
still such a relatively low
ceiling.
1867
01:35:30,240 --> 01:35:33,440
I like the Elko higher.
I think that's that's just a
1868
01:35:33,480 --> 01:35:37,000
really good fit overall, you
know you talked about.
1869
01:35:37,320 --> 01:35:40,240
You know Jonathan Smith, I think
that's that's a sneaky good one
1870
01:35:40,560 --> 01:35:43,880
because as you said, they're
kind of dealing with a very
1871
01:35:43,880 --> 01:35:49,320
similar type makeup of being
surrounded by two powers and and
1872
01:35:49,320 --> 01:35:55,560
being able to recruit around
that and develop better than
1873
01:35:55,560 --> 01:35:58,120
those programs in order to have
that type of success.
1874
01:35:58,120 --> 01:36:00,920
So you got to do the Mark
Dantonio like you.
1875
01:36:01,000 --> 01:36:03,760
That's what Dantonio did.
He hired good coordinators.
1876
01:36:03,880 --> 01:36:07,040
It it was a very frank beamer,
like good coordinators recruit
1877
01:36:07,080 --> 01:36:10,440
the the footprint and find the
the diamonds in the rough.
1878
01:36:10,440 --> 01:36:13,200
That's what Dantonio did, and
that's what Jonathan Smith's
1879
01:36:13,200 --> 01:36:17,080
going to have to do.
I'm going to say this, I I'm,
1880
01:36:17,080 --> 01:36:19,440
I'm with you all that I think
the Elko is the best hire.
1881
01:36:19,440 --> 01:36:22,440
Because Elko also goes back to
the roots of what A&M is.
1882
01:36:22,440 --> 01:36:25,400
If you look at the best coaches
they ever had, there's three of
1883
01:36:25,400 --> 01:36:27,720
them.
There's Bear, Brown, obviously
1884
01:36:27,720 --> 01:36:30,440
in the 50s.
There's Jackie.
1885
01:36:30,480 --> 01:36:31,480
Cheryl, Go look up.
Jackie.
1886
01:36:31,480 --> 01:36:32,000
Cheryl.
Jackie.
1887
01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:34,720
Cheryl was a hell of a coach,
hell of a defensive coordinator.
1888
01:36:35,320 --> 01:36:38,240
At Pitt and then a head coach at
Pitt and then RC Slocum in the
1889
01:36:38,240 --> 01:36:39,840
90s with the wrecking crew
defense.
1890
01:36:40,400 --> 01:36:45,080
RC Slocum was a 70, was a 700
win percentage got when he was
1891
01:36:45,080 --> 01:36:46,920
there and it was based on
defense.
1892
01:36:47,280 --> 01:36:51,160
Elko and here's what I think
Elko is going into being there
1893
01:36:51,160 --> 01:36:53,240
as that defensive coordinator
for several years.
1894
01:36:53,680 --> 01:36:55,520
He knows how fucking crazy they
are.
1895
01:36:56,200 --> 01:36:58,640
He knows it already.
I don't think Jimbo knew it.
1896
01:36:58,640 --> 01:37:00,840
I think Jimbo oh, they're a lot
like Florida State.
1897
01:37:00,880 --> 01:37:02,840
They they they've got some high
crazy fans though.
1898
01:37:02,840 --> 01:37:06,040
He went in there and was like.
What the fuck is this like?
1899
01:37:06,040 --> 01:37:09,240
These people are stupid and I
think being there is going to
1900
01:37:09,240 --> 01:37:12,240
give him that base.
But I think also being he is a
1901
01:37:12,240 --> 01:37:16,880
football coach and sometimes
places like that just need a
1902
01:37:16,880 --> 01:37:18,840
football coach.
I'm not trying to come out here
1903
01:37:18,840 --> 01:37:21,640
and be the greatest on the PA.
We're going to go fucking win
1904
01:37:21,640 --> 01:37:23,680
football games.
That's all I care about.
1905
01:37:24,120 --> 01:37:26,160
And I'm also glad he's not a
Duke anymore.
1906
01:37:27,080 --> 01:37:31,240
Honestly, because because you
know what, he ain't going to be
1907
01:37:31,240 --> 01:37:33,800
looking for the same portal guys
we're looking at this year like
1908
01:37:33,800 --> 01:37:36,160
he did the last few years.
So there that is.
1909
01:37:36,360 --> 01:37:39,240
Tally, anybody got anything else
on any of these coaching,
1910
01:37:39,240 --> 01:37:42,680
anything Pete you want to add
additional to some of the stuff?
1911
01:37:43,040 --> 01:37:46,000
One comment on that the Duke
thing since they're in our
1912
01:37:46,000 --> 01:37:49,400
conference you said what are the
odds they hire two good coaches
1913
01:37:49,400 --> 01:37:51,320
in a row?
They had Cutcliff, They had
1914
01:37:51,320 --> 01:37:53,280
Elko.
What are the odds they hire a
1915
01:37:53,280 --> 01:37:55,800
third good coach in a row?
Minuscule.
1916
01:37:55,960 --> 01:37:57,200
Let's.
Hope it's 0.
1917
01:37:57,280 --> 01:37:59,480
Let's hope it's low.
Let's hope it's very low.
1918
01:37:59,480 --> 01:38:03,760
And and maybe this move, you
know, gives us the very I know
1919
01:38:03,760 --> 01:38:07,520
we already had the inside track,
but a inside track for a certain
1920
01:38:07,640 --> 01:38:09,760
offensive lineman from
Christiansburg, so.
1921
01:38:10,840 --> 01:38:13,720
That's all I'll say with that.
All right, all righty.
1922
01:38:13,720 --> 01:38:16,880
So we are now going to be
flipping to the big Screener
1923
01:38:16,880 --> 01:38:20,040
segment and but we don't have to
pick any games this week because
1924
01:38:20,040 --> 01:38:23,920
we are going to run through the
gamut that is Championship
1925
01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:26,400
Fridays and Saturday with Pete
here.
1926
01:38:26,680 --> 01:38:29,560
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1927
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1928
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1929
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They got bow Knicks.
1930
01:38:38,880 --> 01:38:41,200
The over under is 10 1/2 rushing
yards.
1931
01:38:41,720 --> 01:38:43,720
Book that 10 1/2.
He is definitely going to
1932
01:38:43,720 --> 01:38:46,040
scramble probably for at least
30 to 40.
1933
01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:49,320
Blake quorum against Iowa, take
the under.
1934
01:38:49,520 --> 01:38:51,880
I think quorum gets to 80.
I still think they're going to
1935
01:38:51,880 --> 01:38:55,800
win it, but that's my two play
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1936
01:38:56,080 --> 01:38:58,840
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1937
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1938
01:39:01,440 --> 01:39:05,280
Bring it up real quick, Brian.
The QR code.
1939
01:39:05,800 --> 01:39:09,960
The QR code right there.
Use that.
1940
01:39:09,960 --> 01:39:11,600
Let's take that off the screen
and.
1941
01:39:12,560 --> 01:39:13,920
Let's go.
Let's go ahead and add this on
1942
01:39:13,920 --> 01:39:16,360
there this.
Just dropped as we were
1943
01:39:16,360 --> 01:39:19,960
starting.
That's right.
1944
01:39:22,440 --> 01:39:25,720
I mean, that's right.
Yeah.
1945
01:39:26,360 --> 01:39:30,720
Well, does does it surprise you
that that Michigan doesn't jump
1946
01:39:30,720 --> 01:39:35,120
to 1?
A little bit, actually.
1947
01:39:35,160 --> 01:39:36,480
Yeah.
I thought they, I thought for
1948
01:39:36,480 --> 01:39:40,720
sure they would be 1.
Well, so they were three last
1949
01:39:40,720 --> 01:39:42,800
week though, right?
They were.
1950
01:39:43,000 --> 01:39:46,000
But they beat the number 2.
And they did and they were
1951
01:39:46,000 --> 01:39:48,920
undefeated.
So I just, I just I I thought
1952
01:39:48,920 --> 01:39:50,680
since the Ohio State win with
all of them over.
1953
01:39:50,680 --> 01:39:53,440
But then you look at the, if you
look at the rankings, you know
1954
01:39:53,440 --> 01:39:58,560
you've got Ole Miss at #11 and
you've got who's the other one
1955
01:39:59,160 --> 01:40:02,120
for?
For Georgia, Mizzou at #9, like
1956
01:40:02,360 --> 01:40:04,640
they've got two top eleven wins
and so.
1957
01:40:05,040 --> 01:40:06,560
I guess that's what.
And if you go a little bit
1958
01:40:06,560 --> 01:40:09,040
further too, like they beat
Tennessee, was that number 21,
1959
01:40:09,040 --> 01:40:10,760
which I'm actually surprised,
Tennessee?
1960
01:40:10,760 --> 01:40:12,680
'S in the range.
All right, you you ready for it?
1961
01:40:12,680 --> 01:40:15,440
Tally's going to tell you why
they got this tally.
1962
01:40:15,480 --> 01:40:17,400
You know the reason why?
Look, who's the number 8?
1963
01:40:17,440 --> 01:40:20,320
What if #8?
Yeah, they won't.
1964
01:40:20,360 --> 01:40:23,240
I mean, they're anticipating
them playing Alabama.
1965
01:40:23,360 --> 01:40:26,920
That gets what it is.
So that's why Georgia's at #1,
1966
01:40:26,920 --> 01:40:28,800
because they're going to play
Alabama this weekend.
1967
01:40:28,800 --> 01:40:31,000
So.
And if they lose to Alabama,
1968
01:40:31,080 --> 01:40:33,120
well, Alabama just beat the
number one team in the country.
1969
01:40:33,120 --> 01:40:34,680
We have to put them in the
playoff.
1970
01:40:35,160 --> 01:40:37,040
Oh yeah, you know what?
That.
1971
01:40:37,040 --> 01:40:39,800
But this is this is great.
But how do you put Alabama in
1972
01:40:39,800 --> 01:40:41,800
over Texas in Texas, beat
Alabama.
1973
01:40:41,800 --> 01:40:43,400
There you.
Go well.
1974
01:40:43,400 --> 01:40:45,240
Like, that's the thing about
this.
1975
01:40:45,280 --> 01:40:49,840
This Oregon and Texas thing is
fascinating because they they
1976
01:40:49,840 --> 01:40:52,320
are showing you what they're
thinking right now because they
1977
01:40:52,320 --> 01:40:57,200
put Ohio State between Oregon
and Texas for a reason.
1978
01:40:57,720 --> 01:41:00,760
If Oregon wins, they are in.
There is no debate.
1979
01:41:00,760 --> 01:41:04,400
They've been ahead of Texas and
every playoff ranking that's
1980
01:41:04,400 --> 01:41:07,120
come out this year.
Oregon wins, they're in,
1981
01:41:07,240 --> 01:41:10,000
Washington wins, They're in.
That is, that is it.
1982
01:41:10,000 --> 01:41:13,800
The team that loses is out.
And the fact that Florida State
1983
01:41:13,800 --> 01:41:17,560
is still at #4, I think I know
they're undefeated, but that
1984
01:41:17,560 --> 01:41:19,680
means we know that they win and
they're in.
1985
01:41:19,880 --> 01:41:21,720
Like, I I don't.
I don't want to hear any
1986
01:41:21,720 --> 01:41:23,960
otherwise that's that's just not
how it's going to go.
1987
01:41:24,320 --> 01:41:27,320
The trickiest thing, and I'm
sorry, I'm running with this
1988
01:41:27,320 --> 01:41:30,280
real quick.
The trickiest thing that could
1989
01:41:30,280 --> 01:41:34,000
happen is Bama beating Georgia,
because that would set
1990
01:41:34,000 --> 01:41:38,400
everything into absolute chaos,
because you can't put Georgia in
1991
01:41:38,400 --> 01:41:40,840
if they're not the conference
champion in my eye, because
1992
01:41:40,840 --> 01:41:42,240
you're going to have an
undefeated Michigan.
1993
01:41:42,240 --> 01:41:44,240
Michigan's going undefeated.
They're not losing Iowa.
1994
01:41:44,240 --> 01:41:47,240
No, they're not Florida State
loses that.
1995
01:41:47,400 --> 01:41:49,600
You know they're going to be out
there not getting in.
1996
01:41:50,080 --> 01:41:53,400
And then you'll have the debate.
The way you can get two SEC
1997
01:41:53,400 --> 01:41:56,720
teams in potentially.
Is Florida State losing and
1998
01:41:56,720 --> 01:42:00,000
Alabama winning.
But just by Georgia losing alone
1999
01:42:00,760 --> 01:42:04,280
and Michigan winning and
Washington or Oregon winning, it
2000
01:42:04,280 --> 01:42:08,960
creates a debate of like, do you
put Texas in, do you put, you
2001
01:42:08,960 --> 01:42:10,560
know, undefeated Florida State
in?
2002
01:42:10,840 --> 01:42:13,520
Do you put Oregon in?
You have to decide between those
2003
01:42:13,520 --> 01:42:16,800
three teams.
And I would be so fascinated as
2004
01:42:16,800 --> 01:42:18,800
to how the committee would go
because I think they would put
2005
01:42:18,800 --> 01:42:23,640
Oregon in over Texas, even if,
which which means guys, there
2006
01:42:23,640 --> 01:42:25,800
would be no SEC team in there.
I know I kind of went in a
2007
01:42:25,800 --> 01:42:30,080
circle, but think about that.
If Bama beats Georgia, it
2008
01:42:30,080 --> 01:42:33,640
threatens the chances of the SEC
getting into the playoff.
2009
01:42:33,920 --> 01:42:35,120
It does.
It does.
2010
01:42:35,720 --> 01:42:38,840
But and and the the big thing
there is that you got that like
2011
01:42:39,120 --> 01:42:43,480
Texas firewall, 'cause if if
Texas wins that that really
2012
01:42:43,480 --> 01:42:46,000
puts.
It's hard to make a case to put
2013
01:42:46,000 --> 01:42:49,320
Bama in over Texas if Texas.
Can't do it.
2014
01:42:49,360 --> 01:42:51,200
You can't.
And yes, Billy Ray, you're out
2015
01:42:51,200 --> 01:42:53,240
there tonight.
You cannot put Alabama in
2016
01:42:53,240 --> 01:42:56,400
because if head to head if a
head to head game in the winter
2017
01:42:56,520 --> 01:42:59,960
has the exact same record as the
other team.
2018
01:43:00,640 --> 01:43:02,800
You then Then why do we play the
games?
2019
01:43:03,000 --> 01:43:05,000
Yes, we don't need to play the
games anymore.
2020
01:43:05,080 --> 01:43:06,880
We can just.
Well, that team's better because
2021
01:43:06,880 --> 01:43:09,200
they're better on paper and
they've had better wins and
2022
01:43:09,480 --> 01:43:12,120
they've looked different.
I don't care that they got on
2023
01:43:12,120 --> 01:43:14,520
the field.
There there's there's too few
2024
01:43:14,520 --> 01:43:17,000
data points to kenpong this
shit.
2025
01:43:17,000 --> 01:43:21,920
Like at some point the games on
the on the field have to matter.
2026
01:43:22,160 --> 01:43:25,510
Yes, you're right, you in.
In basketball, you ignore head
2027
01:43:25,507 --> 01:43:27,400
to head when going to tournament
one because there's so many
2028
01:43:27,400 --> 01:43:30,000
spots, but two, because there's
so many games here, you can't
2029
01:43:30,000 --> 01:43:33,880
ignore it.
And for those that say, OK, Bama
2030
01:43:33,880 --> 01:43:38,440
beats Georgia, Bama will get in,
Texas will get in and you'll
2031
01:43:38,440 --> 01:43:40,360
have.
Michigan.
2032
01:43:40,800 --> 01:43:45,840
Yeah, you'll have Michigan.
The The problem is Oregon has
2033
01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:48,200
been in front of Texas.
They're going to, if they beat
2034
01:43:48,200 --> 01:43:50,880
an undefeated team or if that
undefeated team wins in
2035
01:43:50,880 --> 01:43:53,160
Washington, either one of those
teams is getting in.
2036
01:43:53,360 --> 01:43:56,080
They're not going to jump.
Texas is not going to jump.
2037
01:43:56,080 --> 01:43:58,480
Oregon by beating Oklahoma
State?
2038
01:43:58,600 --> 01:44:01,560
It's not going to happen.
Their only their only chance was
2039
01:44:01,560 --> 01:44:05,120
if Oklahoma got in and then they
could legitimately say we beat
2040
01:44:05,160 --> 01:44:09,120
every team on our schedule.
And unfortunately, with
2041
01:44:09,120 --> 01:44:12,720
Oklahoma, Okie State pulling
that miracle against BYU because
2042
01:44:12,880 --> 01:44:15,000
they shouldn't have won that
game that first half, I was
2043
01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:17,640
keeping an eye on it, that they
shouldn't have won that game.
2044
01:44:17,920 --> 01:44:18,880
All right, well, let's get to
it.
2045
01:44:18,880 --> 01:44:22,400
Let's get to all these games.
Let's start Friday night.
2046
01:44:22,440 --> 01:44:26,760
Let's start Conference USA, New
Mexico State versus Liberty.
2047
01:44:26,760 --> 01:44:29,720
Pete, give us a quick background
on this one and then we'll go
2048
01:44:29,720 --> 01:44:31,120
through the picks.
We'll start.
2049
01:44:31,120 --> 01:44:33,280
Brian's going to start the picks
on this one and we'll go left to
2050
01:44:33,280 --> 01:44:34,640
right.
But Pete, quick background on
2051
01:44:34,640 --> 01:44:38,920
this game and just some Well, we
we got a team that's claiming to
2052
01:44:38,920 --> 01:44:41,800
be the first undefeated regular
season team in Virginia and
2053
01:44:41,800 --> 01:44:44,320
Liberty, you know, which was a
bunch of BS and I couldn't
2054
01:44:44,320 --> 01:44:46,280
believe that that came across my
timeline today.
2055
01:44:46,280 --> 01:44:49,120
But Liberty is 12 and O.
They are 10 point favorites
2056
01:44:49,120 --> 01:44:52,760
against New Mexicans, New Mexico
State who is coached by Jerry
2057
01:44:52,760 --> 01:44:55,080
Kill.
A guy we had in our building, a
2058
01:44:55,080 --> 01:44:58,640
guy we we love and Jamie
Chadwell's on the other side,
2059
01:44:59,000 --> 01:45:03,200
Another fantastic coach.
These teams played Liberty's
2060
01:45:03,200 --> 01:45:07,160
best win, if you go to the Kali
matrix on the year is New Mexico
2061
01:45:07,160 --> 01:45:10,320
State earlier this year, 33 to
17.
2062
01:45:10,320 --> 01:45:12,720
And you know why?
Because Liberty played literally
2063
01:45:12,720 --> 01:45:17,280
the easiest schedule in the
country #133.
2064
01:45:17,880 --> 01:45:20,280
So with a 10 point spread, I'm
taking the fighting.
2065
01:45:20,280 --> 01:45:22,800
Jerry Kills.
I'm taking New Mexico State
2066
01:45:22,800 --> 01:45:25,200
because they have played very,
very well.
2067
01:45:25,440 --> 01:45:28,040
Do you know who they just beat
last weekend, boys?
2068
01:45:29,600 --> 01:45:31,800
That's great about. 3 touchdowns
it.
2069
01:45:32,760 --> 01:45:35,800
Would it was unbelievable.
I'm taking New Mexico State plus
2070
01:45:35,800 --> 01:45:37,160
10.
You know what's crazy?
2071
01:45:37,160 --> 01:45:38,040
I'm going to say this right
quick.
2072
01:45:38,040 --> 01:45:39,960
I know we got to get through
this but.
2073
01:45:40,560 --> 01:45:45,000
Me being here in Alabama and I
see the the rivalry games when
2074
01:45:45,000 --> 01:45:48,680
we talk about the Commonwealth
Cup, Commonwealth Cup and Iron
2075
01:45:48,680 --> 01:45:52,600
Ball and things like that.
It is crazy that Auburn brought
2076
01:45:52,600 --> 01:45:56,680
New Mexico State to their home
and got beat by three thirds and
2077
01:45:56,800 --> 01:46:00,520
then and then played Alabama the
next week and should have beat
2078
01:46:00,520 --> 01:46:04,640
Alabama because that rivalry
means that much to them.
2079
01:46:04,800 --> 01:46:08,800
It doesn't matter if their
records are one in 10 or what.
2080
01:46:09,280 --> 01:46:13,680
That is a true rivalry.
What we do with UVA is is a Big
2081
01:46:13,680 --> 01:46:15,480
Brother, little brother.
That's what I almost said.
2082
01:46:16,120 --> 01:46:17,320
Let's go back to.
That's what it is.
2083
01:46:17,320 --> 01:46:19,320
Now get Dwight in here and have
him talking.
2084
01:46:19,320 --> 01:46:20,800
All right, Brian, let's roll
through.
2085
01:46:20,800 --> 01:46:22,840
We got Pete's pick already.
We'll see it at the end.
2086
01:46:23,720 --> 01:46:26,480
Brian, who you got on this one?
Give me the fight and Jerry
2087
01:46:26,480 --> 01:46:28,800
kills, man.
I'm with you.
2088
01:46:28,800 --> 01:46:32,640
Give me the points.
I think New Mexico State ends
2089
01:46:32,640 --> 01:46:34,160
their season.
I think they win.
2090
01:46:34,600 --> 01:46:37,640
I think, I think investigate
wins and I think because Jerry
2091
01:46:37,640 --> 01:46:40,960
kills a good enough coach and.
You said 3317.
2092
01:46:41,000 --> 01:46:44,240
That's a that's a two touchdown
games are always a little bit
2093
01:46:44,240 --> 01:46:47,160
funky because you know.
It's early in the season, too.
2094
01:46:47,520 --> 01:46:49,120
Early in the season, tally who
you got.
2095
01:46:49,120 --> 01:46:50,520
I'm.
Going to take liberty.
2096
01:46:50,520 --> 01:46:53,480
I know it's hard for a team to
beat, know it's hard for a team
2097
01:46:53,480 --> 01:46:55,480
to beat A-Team twice, but I
think they're going to do it.
2098
01:46:55,640 --> 01:46:57,560
All right, who'd Shelton roll on
this one?
2099
01:46:57,680 --> 01:47:01,280
Shelton's going to Mexico State
here and obviously we got, he's
2100
01:47:01,360 --> 01:47:03,520
got New Mexico State as well.
All righty.
2101
01:47:03,520 --> 01:47:06,640
Let's go Friday night.
PAC 12 in Las Vegas, by the way.
2102
01:47:07,360 --> 01:47:10,160
Would y'all be opposed if we
pulled the ACC championship to
2103
01:47:10,160 --> 01:47:12,600
Las Vegas once Stanford and
everybody joined?
2104
01:47:12,920 --> 01:47:14,520
Not for one year.
I would love it all.
2105
01:47:15,400 --> 01:47:17,560
Right, just making sure.
All right, Pete, what we got on
2106
01:47:17,560 --> 01:47:19,240
this one?
We got Washington, Oregon,
2107
01:47:19,240 --> 01:47:21,840
Oregon.
A 9 1/2 point favorite against
2108
01:47:21,840 --> 01:47:25,160
an undefeated Washington.
Yeah, the line is wild and and
2109
01:47:25,200 --> 01:47:27,880
part of that has to be because
of the close games Washington
2110
01:47:27,880 --> 01:47:30,560
has been playing ever since they
beat Oregon.
2111
01:47:30,680 --> 01:47:34,400
They almost lost to Arizona or
Arizona State the very next week
2112
01:47:35,040 --> 01:47:37,040
and they went to overtime with
Arizona I believe.
2113
01:47:37,040 --> 01:47:39,360
So Pennix doesn't look quite
right.
2114
01:47:40,240 --> 01:47:43,560
They they played a good end of
that game against Washington
2115
01:47:43,560 --> 01:47:46,240
State to survive.
But a few weeks back I said
2116
01:47:46,240 --> 01:47:48,800
Oregon was my best team in the
country.
2117
01:47:49,280 --> 01:47:51,800
Power rankings, my own personal
eye test and stat.
2118
01:47:51,800 --> 01:47:54,680
Looking up I went with Oregon as
my best team in the country.
2119
01:47:54,960 --> 01:47:59,560
I'm not wavering from that.
However, that game was super
2120
01:47:59,560 --> 01:48:02,720
close last time and Washington
won on their own turf.
2121
01:48:02,880 --> 01:48:05,640
I think Washington is good
enough to keep it within the 9
2122
01:48:05,640 --> 01:48:07,440
1/2.
I like Oregon to win.
2123
01:48:07,440 --> 01:48:09,680
Washington cover.
Oregon win.
2124
01:48:09,680 --> 01:48:13,720
Washington cover.
All righty, Sheldon was back.
2125
01:48:14,280 --> 01:48:15,480
Sheldon was right there with
you.
2126
01:48:16,960 --> 01:48:21,600
Same mindset.
I think looking at at what he
2127
01:48:21,600 --> 01:48:25,760
was saying earlier he you know,
it's it's just the that that 9
2128
01:48:25,760 --> 01:48:28,440
1/2 is a little too much even on
a neutral field.
2129
01:48:29,880 --> 01:48:31,880
OK, so.
Tell it who you got.
2130
01:48:32,920 --> 01:48:36,280
I'm going to Oregon, man.
I think that the refs in the
2131
01:48:36,280 --> 01:48:40,040
country wants Bo Dick, Bo, Bo
Nicks.
2132
01:48:41,600 --> 01:48:43,160
Bo who?
Bo.
2133
01:48:43,440 --> 01:48:47,440
Bo Dicks.
Yeah, they definitely.
2134
01:48:47,880 --> 01:48:51,880
They want him to be the Heisman.
I mean, they have been raving
2135
01:48:51,880 --> 01:48:54,240
about Bo Nicks.
So if it's an opportunity for
2136
01:48:54,240 --> 01:48:57,320
Oregon to win and Oregon to win
big, this is going to be his
2137
01:48:57,320 --> 01:49:01,800
Heisman moment and the line
stinks and Tally's diving into
2138
01:49:01,800 --> 01:49:06,320
the stink.
Fatally, Fatally.
2139
01:49:06,640 --> 01:49:09,160
You see he and I'm not saying
that to be mean because Tally
2140
01:49:09,160 --> 01:49:10,440
said it a bunch of times during
the.
2141
01:49:10,440 --> 01:49:11,720
Course.
Oh yeah, No, no, no.
2142
01:49:11,960 --> 01:49:14,920
You do not put money on what I'm
telling you.
2143
01:49:15,720 --> 01:49:18,520
It does not work out, is it?
All righty here.
2144
01:49:18,960 --> 01:49:23,760
This is not gambling advice.
I think 9 1/2 is just too big
2145
01:49:23,760 --> 01:49:27,240
because like you said Pete, that
first game literally was a down
2146
01:49:27,240 --> 01:49:29,360
to the end.
I'll I've watched the end of it
2147
01:49:29,360 --> 01:49:32,840
here probably.
Were you over for that game?
2148
01:49:33,120 --> 01:49:34,800
Why did I feel like you came
over for that game?
2149
01:49:35,680 --> 01:49:37,640
Maybe.
Regardless, maybe you did.
2150
01:49:37,920 --> 01:49:39,960
But I will say this, Curtis, I
know you're going to make your
2151
01:49:39,960 --> 01:49:42,600
pick, but I will say this.
Y'all need to think.
2152
01:49:43,440 --> 01:49:45,520
They they lost that game because
of coaching.
2153
01:49:45,680 --> 01:49:49,240
They didn't know it's true.
There were some court down calls
2154
01:49:49,240 --> 01:49:51,680
in that game that were.
Screwed up, Yeah, there.
2155
01:49:51,800 --> 01:49:55,000
Was a lot of calls in that game.
So anyway, go ahead.
2156
01:49:55,000 --> 01:49:56,720
Kurt Well, I don't think
Washington wins.
2157
01:49:56,760 --> 01:50:00,520
I think this is where we start
to see a little of the the CFP
2158
01:50:00,520 --> 01:50:03,600
playoff chaos.
I think Washington's good
2159
01:50:03,600 --> 01:50:06,000
enough, like with UPI think
they're good enough to keep it
2160
01:50:06,000 --> 01:50:08,960
within 9 1/2.
It's probably a touchdown win
2161
01:50:09,440 --> 01:50:12,720
for Oregon, so I'm going
Washington.
2162
01:50:13,120 --> 01:50:17,360
When Spread Oregon Takes it
money line Ziegler.
2163
01:50:18,040 --> 01:50:20,280
I'm right there with everybody
here on the panel except for
2164
01:50:20,280 --> 01:50:22,840
Tally.
Wow, pretty.
2165
01:50:25,320 --> 01:50:27,000
Good.
You know what he's doing.
2166
01:50:27,040 --> 01:50:32,160
What he's supposed to?
Do you know when when I look at
2167
01:50:32,160 --> 01:50:35,520
it, the line is just a little,
little, little funky for me,
2168
01:50:36,640 --> 01:50:39,640
that's a little too much to lay.
You know, I think it like Curtis
2169
01:50:39,640 --> 01:50:42,640
said, it's going to be about a
76 point.
2170
01:50:43,200 --> 01:50:45,560
Oregon victory.
But that 9 1/2 is just too much
2171
01:50:45,560 --> 01:50:47,000
for my blood.
So much.
2172
01:50:47,000 --> 01:50:50,760
And this is de facto playoff
game because winner is going to
2173
01:50:50,760 --> 01:50:53,800
the playoff.
Yeah, yeah, there's really,
2174
01:50:54,000 --> 01:50:56,320
there's no drama here in in
terms of the playoff.
2175
01:50:56,320 --> 01:50:59,080
It doesn't really shake anything
up, except maybe the seating.
2176
01:51:00,040 --> 01:51:02,000
The winner of this is is is a
playoff team.
2177
01:51:02,800 --> 01:51:05,440
All righty.
Here's what we got next.
2178
01:51:05,440 --> 01:51:08,480
We've got the Mack matching.
I wish they would do.
2179
01:51:08,600 --> 01:51:10,280
I wish they would do this game
on a Wednesday night.
2180
01:51:10,880 --> 01:51:15,680
Honest to God I wish they would.
But we've got Miami of Ohio and
2181
01:51:15,680 --> 01:51:17,960
Toledo Y'all these are actually
two good teams.
2182
01:51:17,960 --> 01:51:21,440
Miami of Ohio 10 and two.
Toledo 11 and one.
2183
01:51:21,440 --> 01:51:26,320
I didn't realize that as y'all
see we got a line of 7 1/2
2184
01:51:26,320 --> 01:51:29,200
Toledo favorite Pete.
What are we seeing on this game?
2185
01:51:29,240 --> 01:51:33,440
And is Jason Candle a candidate
anywhere from for for head
2186
01:51:33,480 --> 01:51:35,280
coaching Guy?
You know I feel like Jason
2187
01:51:35,280 --> 01:51:41,520
Candle has been a candidate for
about seven years and and Toledo
2188
01:51:41,520 --> 01:51:45,720
in the Mack is at resources and
facilities advantage.
2189
01:51:45,720 --> 01:51:50,160
They always seem to be one of
the best three teams in the Mack
2190
01:51:50,160 --> 01:51:52,480
and it's for good reason they
they put the investment into
2191
01:51:52,480 --> 01:51:56,280
football.
Toledo 11 straight wins.
2192
01:51:56,640 --> 01:52:00,320
Their only loss was the first
game of the season to Illinois.
2193
01:52:01,080 --> 01:52:03,280
They both played absolutely
terrible schedules.
2194
01:52:03,280 --> 01:52:06,240
So like Toledo, we talked about
Liberty schedule.
2195
01:52:06,240 --> 01:52:09,000
I think Toledo has like the
second easiest schedule in the
2196
01:52:09,000 --> 01:52:11,600
country.
But they did beat San Jose
2197
01:52:11,600 --> 01:52:14,640
State, who some people think
should be in the Mountain West.
2198
01:52:14,640 --> 01:52:17,440
We'll get there, but that was a
good quality win.
2199
01:52:19,280 --> 01:52:24,520
They're coming in Hot 7 1/2.
I'm going to take Daquan Finn,
2200
01:52:24,760 --> 01:52:27,360
Pat's brother, and I think
they're going to get, they're
2201
01:52:27,360 --> 01:52:30,760
going to get the win and cover
Toledo.
2202
01:52:30,760 --> 01:52:32,320
I'm taking he.
Takes Toledo.
2203
01:52:32,360 --> 01:52:37,120
Brian, what about you?
Yeah, I, I, I'm riding the
2204
01:52:37,120 --> 01:52:39,960
Toledo Rockets here, baby.
Let's go.
2205
01:52:40,480 --> 01:52:41,680
All righty.
I I'm going to.
2206
01:52:41,680 --> 01:52:43,720
Ride the Toledo Rocket.
It's better to ride in the Red
2207
01:52:43,720 --> 01:52:46,760
Rocket.
I won't take Toledo as well.
2208
01:52:46,760 --> 01:52:48,240
First game was a four point
game.
2209
01:52:48,240 --> 01:52:52,040
I think Toledo is the better
team overall and I think they, I
2210
01:52:52,040 --> 01:52:53,840
think they win the game going
away.
2211
01:52:53,880 --> 01:52:58,640
I think it's going to be not
going to be as close, but you
2212
01:52:58,640 --> 01:53:02,760
know, what do I know, Tally?
I'm going to take Toledo on this
2213
01:53:02,760 --> 01:53:04,120
and you know I want to get on
Y'all's team.
2214
01:53:04,120 --> 01:53:05,760
Y'all seem to pick a little bit
better than me.
2215
01:53:06,200 --> 01:53:08,360
Toledo has a good running back.
I think that running back's got
2216
01:53:08,360 --> 01:53:11,560
about 1400 yards.
He's averaging like 8 yards a
2217
01:53:11,560 --> 01:53:15,160
carry, maybe like 15 touchdowns.
So I'm going to go, I'm going to
2218
01:53:15,160 --> 01:53:17,920
go with Toledo on this, just
because I've watched him play
2219
01:53:17,920 --> 01:53:20,440
and he looks good.
Toledo's across the board, which
2220
01:53:20,440 --> 01:53:21,880
means Miami's going to win out,
right?
2221
01:53:23,800 --> 01:53:26,920
Did did Shelton go with us?
Oh yeah, everybody's riding
2222
01:53:26,920 --> 01:53:28,320
Toledo.
Toledo We were riding the rock.
2223
01:53:28,400 --> 01:53:30,640
To the moon, baby.
To the moon.
2224
01:53:30,680 --> 01:53:32,480
High noon.
All right, let's flip it.
2225
01:53:32,480 --> 01:53:34,920
Next, let's go to the Big 12.
We already hit on this a little
2226
01:53:34,920 --> 01:53:37,880
bit.
Beat Texas laying 14 1/2 in Okie
2227
01:53:37,880 --> 01:53:39,520
State.
And then again, in my opinion,
2228
01:53:39,520 --> 01:53:42,040
Okie State shouldn't beat BYU.
Last week I watched that game.
2229
01:53:42,040 --> 01:53:45,000
They really shouldn't have.
But what are we looking at here
2230
01:53:45,360 --> 01:53:47,200
Pete?
You got a nine and three, OK?
2231
01:53:47,200 --> 01:53:51,240
State team that is only lost in
the last eight games was that
2232
01:53:51,880 --> 01:53:55,320
beat down at the hands of UCF in
the let down spot after the
2233
01:53:55,320 --> 01:53:58,120
Oklahoma game.
So I'll forgive them a bit for
2234
01:53:58,120 --> 01:54:00,840
going to Florida after Oklahoma
and getting beat in the rain.
2235
01:54:01,240 --> 01:54:06,040
But as you saw last week against
BYU, that team does not give up
2236
01:54:06,080 --> 01:54:08,600
easily.
They Ollie Gordon has been a
2237
01:54:08,600 --> 01:54:12,920
revelation for them ever since
that 19 yard game against South
2238
01:54:12,920 --> 01:54:15,440
Alabama.
I I don't know what got into OK
2239
01:54:15,440 --> 01:54:18,600
State.
Gundy found a way and I'm going
2240
01:54:18,600 --> 01:54:20,160
to take them to cover that 12
points.
2241
01:54:21,520 --> 01:54:23,440
All right.
He's got them covering.
2242
01:54:24,760 --> 01:54:28,560
What's Shelton?
Got Shelton is riding with OSU
2243
01:54:28,560 --> 01:54:32,000
as well.
Tally, what you got?
2244
01:54:32,800 --> 01:54:35,280
I called Pete before the show
and I called Shelton before the
2245
01:54:35,280 --> 01:54:39,080
show and they are very smart, so
I just picked what they picked.
2246
01:54:40,240 --> 01:54:41,920
All righty.
So I must be the idiot over
2247
01:54:41,920 --> 01:54:45,040
here, then, because I think
Texas knows it has to make a
2248
01:54:45,040 --> 01:54:46,760
statement.
Pete, you you've said it three
2249
01:54:46,760 --> 01:54:48,880
or four times.
Really.
2250
01:54:48,960 --> 01:54:50,960
I said that.
I thought you did.
2251
01:54:53,640 --> 01:54:54,640
Did you?
Where I got it wrong?
2252
01:54:54,640 --> 01:54:55,520
Did.
I get it wrong.
2253
01:54:55,520 --> 01:54:57,400
I don't know.
Shit.
2254
01:54:57,400 --> 01:55:02,000
I don't know.
What do you like about Texas
2255
01:55:02,000 --> 01:55:04,160
though, Brian Curtis?
Finish your thought.
2256
01:55:04,480 --> 01:55:07,080
Because no one here and just
saying it's more of the spot
2257
01:55:07,080 --> 01:55:11,320
they're in, I think Texas knows
they have to put an ungodly beat
2258
01:55:11,320 --> 01:55:14,200
down on Okie State because you
keep saying they can't jump
2259
01:55:14,200 --> 01:55:15,520
Oregon.
I have a question.
2260
01:55:15,720 --> 01:55:21,240
They go out there and beat Okie
State by 5 touchdowns 40. 4914
2261
01:55:22,040 --> 01:55:23,080
and then you look at their
resume.
2262
01:55:23,200 --> 01:55:25,880
Well, the only team they lost to
was A10 win Oklahoma team.
2263
01:55:26,000 --> 01:55:29,000
They went to Tuscaloosa.
They handled Alabama with these.
2264
01:55:29,440 --> 01:55:31,560
Why shouldn't we put this team
in the playoff?
2265
01:55:32,600 --> 01:55:34,960
Yeah, And.
And that's that's a good
2266
01:55:34,960 --> 01:55:36,280
argument.
And you know what?
2267
01:55:36,280 --> 01:55:38,640
They tried to make that
statement last week against
2268
01:55:38,640 --> 01:55:39,360
Texas Tech.
When?
2269
01:55:39,360 --> 01:55:42,280
They oh, they did make sense.
But you know what?
2270
01:55:42,280 --> 01:55:46,960
It didn't work because they're
still six, behind Ohio State and
2271
01:55:47,120 --> 01:55:48,560
and Oregon.
Let me tell you how they're
2272
01:55:48,560 --> 01:55:51,720
going to get in.
If Alabama beats Georgia,
2273
01:55:51,960 --> 01:55:54,840
they're going to throw Texas in
because they need the big name
2274
01:55:55,120 --> 01:55:59,320
That and that's that's correct.
That is Texas's avenue to get
2275
01:55:59,320 --> 01:56:02,000
into the playoff is they need
Bama to win that.
2276
01:56:02,640 --> 01:56:05,840
They could beat Oklahoma State
by 60 points.
2277
01:56:05,840 --> 01:56:07,760
They're not getting in unless
Bama beats Georgia.
2278
01:56:07,920 --> 01:56:10,360
There you go.
Good point, Brian.
2279
01:56:12,200 --> 01:56:14,320
I did.
Confirm that you sent OS.
2280
01:56:14,320 --> 01:56:17,960
UI did send OSU, but I don't
know that I was trying to do
2281
01:56:17,960 --> 01:56:19,480
this quickly today.
So.
2282
01:56:20,000 --> 01:56:21,320
You know what?
That's all right.
2283
01:56:22,480 --> 01:56:26,560
I like Texas to win this, but 14
1/2 is a little funky for me, so
2284
01:56:26,560 --> 01:56:29,360
I'm going to OSU here.
All righty, We're going to go
2285
01:56:29,360 --> 01:56:32,320
out to the Mountain West next
again, we're going in
2286
01:56:32,320 --> 01:56:34,360
subsequential order.
So the the, the way you see
2287
01:56:34,360 --> 01:56:37,120
these games, the way they're
coming out, I believe this is on
2288
01:56:37,120 --> 01:56:40,320
CBS Sports Network and it's
going to be like a three, three
2289
01:56:40,320 --> 01:56:42,800
or 4:00 kick.
Pete, you got a little
2290
01:56:42,920 --> 01:56:46,960
interesting behind this one
about maybe one of these teams
2291
01:56:46,960 --> 01:56:50,840
shouldn't be here.
Well, the Mountain West decides
2292
01:56:51,160 --> 01:56:52,800
when there's a tie in the
standings.
2293
01:56:52,800 --> 01:56:55,440
They decide who goes to the
championship game by computer
2294
01:56:55,440 --> 01:56:57,920
rankings using one of the
computer rankings.
2295
01:56:57,920 --> 01:57:01,040
I like the best in the Collie
matrix and they decided that
2296
01:57:01,200 --> 01:57:05,840
Boise State and UNLV should
should go at it and UNLV just
2297
01:57:05,840 --> 01:57:09,760
lost to San Jose State.
And yet they are.
2298
01:57:09,800 --> 01:57:12,480
They are the ones that are in
because they have a better
2299
01:57:12,480 --> 01:57:15,400
overall record at 9:00 and 3:00,
Boise State at 7:00 and 5:00.
2300
01:57:15,400 --> 01:57:18,880
A-Team that fired their coach is
also in.
2301
01:57:19,000 --> 01:57:21,320
Think about that.
If I hired their coach mid
2302
01:57:21,320 --> 01:57:24,200
season and they are in the
championship game and guess what
2303
01:57:24,880 --> 01:57:27,320
I like them to win outright.
Like, yeah, I'll take them
2304
01:57:27,320 --> 01:57:28,520
against.
I'll.
2305
01:57:28,800 --> 01:57:30,560
Well, actually they're favored.
They're, they're two point
2306
01:57:30,560 --> 01:57:33,200
favorites, right.
So I'll take Boise to lay the
2307
01:57:33,200 --> 01:57:35,280
points with Boise.
But what a season for.
2308
01:57:35,280 --> 01:57:39,120
I do want to mention Barry Odom
and UNLV because that program
2309
01:57:39,120 --> 01:57:42,800
has been in the dumps for a long
time and Perry Onum as a
2310
01:57:42,800 --> 01:57:44,280
straight up good coach there
was.
2311
01:57:44,600 --> 01:57:46,960
There's that one point where we
thought we might get him as our
2312
01:57:46,960 --> 01:57:50,040
defensive coordinator.
I think it didn't quite happen
2313
01:57:50,040 --> 01:57:57,480
that way, but UNLV had not won
nine games since 1984 and so
2314
01:57:57,680 --> 01:58:00,880
good, good for UNLV.
It's going to be a fun game.
2315
01:58:01,640 --> 01:58:03,360
I think Boise State gets the win
though.
2316
01:58:05,360 --> 01:58:08,880
All righty, Pete's got Boise
State on this one, Brian, who do
2317
01:58:08,880 --> 01:58:12,240
you got?
I'm going to preface this with I
2318
01:58:12,240 --> 01:58:17,240
think that we should be seeing
another team in here as Pete
2319
01:58:17,240 --> 01:58:22,840
alluded to, but shout out to DJ
Harvey out there in San Jose
2320
01:58:22,840 --> 01:58:27,480
State.
Yeah, so, but since that's not
2321
01:58:27,480 --> 01:58:29,440
what we got, I'm going to UNLV
here.
2322
01:58:29,440 --> 01:58:30,920
I think.
I think Barry Odom is going to
2323
01:58:30,920 --> 01:58:34,640
get them up for this game.
I think they aren't the best
2324
01:58:34,640 --> 01:58:37,600
team on paper, but I think that
they're going to.
2325
01:58:37,760 --> 01:58:41,320
Play play above their skis a
little bit and and and pull off
2326
01:58:41,320 --> 01:58:43,920
a victory here against Boise.
I'm with you.
2327
01:58:44,120 --> 01:58:45,640
Give me the Give me that little
two.
2328
01:58:45,720 --> 01:58:49,280
I'll take UNLV as well.
And all the old food crew out
2329
01:58:49,280 --> 01:58:53,520
there, and you know Odom and
Vance Vice and who else is out
2330
01:58:53,520 --> 01:58:55,040
there.
There's there's a few other ones
2331
01:58:55,040 --> 01:58:58,560
out there right from the
Shotbusters out there.
2332
01:58:58,920 --> 01:59:00,280
Is he really?
Shotbusters.
2333
01:59:00,280 --> 01:59:01,960
A special teams coordinator out
there.
2334
01:59:01,960 --> 01:59:06,680
So yeah, some of the old, some
of the old Tech coaches who you
2335
01:59:06,680 --> 01:59:09,320
got Tally?
Because they got old tech
2336
01:59:09,320 --> 01:59:11,920
coaches out there.
I did not pick them.
2337
01:59:13,240 --> 01:59:17,600
Boise State Boise State Later 2
Shelton.
2338
01:59:17,600 --> 01:59:23,000
Says Shelton, Says Boise.
Shelton says Boise.
2339
01:59:23,000 --> 01:59:25,640
And we got Pete saying Boise.
All right, next one.
2340
01:59:26,040 --> 01:59:31,640
Let's go to Atlanta 430 kick
Georgia, Alabama, Georgia.
2341
01:59:31,640 --> 01:59:37,040
The -6 favorite here.
My one of my old bosses saw her
2342
01:59:37,040 --> 01:59:39,280
today at work.
She's a huge Georgia fan.
2343
01:59:39,280 --> 01:59:43,000
She's heading down to Atlanta to
watch the game this weekend.
2344
01:59:43,280 --> 01:59:48,720
So what do we got here on this
one, Pete, That if you know
2345
01:59:49,000 --> 01:59:50,800
there, there's a couple key
things about this.
2346
01:59:50,800 --> 01:59:53,880
So these teams have obviously
been the two best teams in the
2347
01:59:53,880 --> 01:59:59,480
SEC over the past decade, yet
they have not matched up a ton
2348
01:59:59,480 --> 02:00:02,600
of times in the championship
game and in Georgia's recent
2349
02:00:02,600 --> 02:00:04,920
success.
They have yet to beat Alabama in
2350
02:00:04,920 --> 02:00:06,840
this game.
In fact, they've never beaten
2351
02:00:06,840 --> 02:00:09,960
Alabama in this game.
Since the SE CS inception in
2352
02:00:09,960 --> 02:00:13,600
1992, Georgia has four titles.
It's Arkansas, it's LSU.
2353
02:00:13,600 --> 02:00:18,920
It's Auburn, and it's LSU again.
Can Georgia beat Bama for the
2354
02:00:18,920 --> 02:00:24,440
SEC title?
I think they should and they
2355
02:00:24,440 --> 02:00:27,160
will win.
But I like the six points.
2356
02:00:27,200 --> 02:00:29,440
I I think Will Millroe can do
enough.
2357
02:00:29,640 --> 02:00:33,560
I think he's developed enough
for them to be competitive and
2358
02:00:33,560 --> 02:00:36,760
that Bama defense is for real.
They're they're going to show
2359
02:00:36,760 --> 02:00:38,920
Carson Beck some things he
hasn't seen this year.
2360
02:00:39,080 --> 02:00:43,280
Carson Beck has been great down
the stretch, really, really good
2361
02:00:43,520 --> 02:00:45,440
development out of the
quarterback from Georgia
2362
02:00:45,440 --> 02:00:47,320
throughout the year.
But I think Bama is going to
2363
02:00:47,320 --> 02:00:49,680
slow them down a little bit and
I think Bama is going to be able
2364
02:00:49,680 --> 02:00:52,840
to cover.
But I think Georgia is going to
2365
02:00:52,840 --> 02:00:55,640
get the win to finish another
season undefeated.
2366
02:00:56,360 --> 02:00:58,640
All righty, who's Shelton laying
on this one?
2367
02:00:59,560 --> 02:01:02,560
Riding with Georgia.
Riding with Georgia Tally, This
2368
02:01:02,560 --> 02:01:05,160
is a tough one for you.
Hey, can y'all hear me Good.
2369
02:01:05,160 --> 02:01:07,600
I've got my microphone up so
everybody can hear this.
2370
02:01:08,080 --> 02:01:13,680
Georgia is going to win this
game because if they do not win,
2371
02:01:13,920 --> 02:01:17,360
you may not see ASCC team in the
playoffs.
2372
02:01:18,120 --> 02:01:20,680
They are not going to let that
happen.
2373
02:01:21,600 --> 02:01:24,920
They will not.
There will be refs putting on
2374
02:01:24,920 --> 02:01:28,680
uniforms and playing.
Georgia's going to win this
2375
02:01:28,760 --> 02:01:31,360
game.
I'm taking Georgia just because
2376
02:01:31,360 --> 02:01:33,320
I had to see Georgia's logo up
here.
2377
02:01:33,760 --> 02:01:38,080
But if I if I'm betting, I'm
definitely putting money on
2378
02:01:38,080 --> 02:01:40,880
Georgia money line because
Georgia's winning this game
2379
02:01:41,040 --> 02:01:45,280
because again it gets too funky.
If Alabama wins, if Alabama
2380
02:01:45,280 --> 02:01:48,320
beats Georgia in this game and
then you have to go into.
2381
02:01:49,000 --> 02:01:52,240
Thinking about a playoff without
ASCC team in?
2382
02:01:53,520 --> 02:01:55,280
They'll burn it down.
They don't know what are we
2383
02:01:55,280 --> 02:01:58,000
going to do.
We may not be we there's if if
2384
02:01:58,000 --> 02:02:01,200
that happens, there's not going
to be an NCAA Football game
2385
02:02:01,200 --> 02:02:04,040
coming out.
So all of you gamers, you might
2386
02:02:04,040 --> 02:02:07,160
as well throw it away.
There's going to be people
2387
02:02:07,160 --> 02:02:10,360
that's going to be petitioning
outside of the college playoffs
2388
02:02:10,360 --> 02:02:12,280
that says Michael Vick was
fighting dogs.
2389
02:02:12,720 --> 02:02:16,320
It's going to be chaos.
If that happens, I'm telling you
2390
02:02:16,320 --> 02:02:19,680
right now, Georgia's going to
win because they want to get
2391
02:02:19,680 --> 02:02:22,640
ASCC team in there.
And if Alabama wins, it's going
2392
02:02:22,640 --> 02:02:26,520
to be too tricky for them to put
like if if Alabama wins, they
2393
02:02:26,520 --> 02:02:29,720
have to put two teams in there
and they can't put two teams in
2394
02:02:29,720 --> 02:02:33,560
there unless everybody loses.
That's just my opinion.
2395
02:02:33,880 --> 02:02:35,280
I'd say it's a good way to
point.
2396
02:02:35,680 --> 02:02:40,960
I'm I'm with Tally on this one
that Georgia has to win this
2397
02:02:40,960 --> 02:02:44,520
game and I think.
Six is the line, right?
2398
02:02:45,120 --> 02:02:47,600
Funky, funky plays can happen at
end of games.
2399
02:02:47,600 --> 02:02:50,560
We saw that last weekend with
the Alabama game, right?
2400
02:02:51,120 --> 02:02:55,360
Georgia wins by 10 because it
ain't gonna be no funky play at
2401
02:02:55,360 --> 02:02:59,240
the end of the game for Alabama
this time.
2402
02:02:59,240 --> 02:03:01,400
I like a pick based on a
conspiracy theory, though.
2403
02:03:01,400 --> 02:03:04,440
Tally, I appreciate that.
Yes.
2404
02:03:04,880 --> 02:03:08,680
There we go.
I'm, I'm riding with.
2405
02:03:08,920 --> 02:03:12,760
I'm round with Georgia too.
Pete you are the the the lone
2406
02:03:13,960 --> 02:03:16,720
hey look, I mean I think these
teams.
2407
02:03:17,160 --> 02:03:18,680
I think Georgia's got a little
too much love.
2408
02:03:18,840 --> 02:03:20,720
Both of these teams struggled
last week.
2409
02:03:20,720 --> 02:03:23,480
You wouldn't.
I know Georgia SAT they didn't
2410
02:03:23,480 --> 02:03:27,160
have a couple of their better
players but like Georgia Tech by
2411
02:03:27,160 --> 02:03:28,960
8.
What what are you doing messing
2412
02:03:28,960 --> 02:03:32,720
around with Georgia Tech by 8.
I know Bama almost lost, but
2413
02:03:32,720 --> 02:03:34,760
that's at least a rivalry like
Georgia.
2414
02:03:34,800 --> 02:03:37,120
Georgia Tech.
Like I know is good old
2415
02:03:37,120 --> 02:03:37,840
fashioned.
Hate.
2416
02:03:37,960 --> 02:03:38,840
Georgia Tech.
Sucks.
2417
02:03:39,200 --> 02:03:40,720
Come on.
There you go.
2418
02:03:41,000 --> 02:03:42,880
Yeah.
I mean, at this point, I mean,
2419
02:03:43,360 --> 02:03:47,600
Georgia, Georgia Tech is very
much Virginia Tech, UVA, right?
2420
02:03:47,680 --> 02:03:49,640
Yeah.
It's been it's been dead for 20
2421
02:03:49,640 --> 02:03:51,040
plus years.
Yeah, they'll they'll, they'll,
2422
02:03:51,200 --> 02:03:52,840
they'll scrape one here or
there.
2423
02:03:53,480 --> 02:03:55,480
That's competitive.
But it's so I'm willing to
2424
02:03:55,520 --> 02:03:59,320
forgive Bama's performance more
than I am Georgia's.
2425
02:03:59,320 --> 02:04:02,000
And Georgia has had close calls
against Auburn earlier in the
2426
02:04:02,000 --> 02:04:03,960
year there.
They Mizzou.
2427
02:04:04,320 --> 02:04:08,240
Mizzou was the tight one.
South Carolina was a lot tighter
2428
02:04:08,240 --> 02:04:09,400
than it should have.
Been like.
2429
02:04:09,640 --> 02:04:12,080
I was going to say Georgia's
been playing with the food all.
2430
02:04:12,200 --> 02:04:13,280
All year.
So is Bama though.
2431
02:04:14,480 --> 02:04:17,280
I mean they got, I mean you say
what you want, they got smacked
2432
02:04:17,280 --> 02:04:19,920
by Texas.
They got smacked at home And
2433
02:04:19,920 --> 02:04:23,160
then the USF game, we were
sitting up, that was during the
2434
02:04:23,160 --> 02:04:24,960
Rutgers weekend.
One that Brian, when I came up
2435
02:04:24,960 --> 02:04:27,880
to your house and we were like.
What are they doing?
2436
02:04:27,920 --> 02:04:30,480
Like this is USA.
Well, they they had a shadow,
2437
02:04:30,480 --> 02:04:32,480
they had a shadow ban on Milro
that game.
2438
02:04:32,480 --> 02:04:34,720
They didn't play them and there
there was, there was some kind
2439
02:04:34,720 --> 02:04:38,040
of suspension going on there and
I thought that Milro has
2440
02:04:38,040 --> 02:04:43,720
developed better since since
that that game you mentioned.
2441
02:04:44,480 --> 02:04:47,280
No, the problem that they had
that game is that the boosters
2442
02:04:47,280 --> 02:04:49,480
and the fans.
Were telling Nick Saban how to
2443
02:04:49,480 --> 02:04:50,960
coach.
So he said, well, let me show
2444
02:04:50,960 --> 02:04:53,000
you that I know more than you
guys do.
2445
02:04:53,200 --> 02:04:55,160
And he put those other
quarterbacks in and they suck.
2446
02:04:56,240 --> 02:04:59,000
They were horrible.
And they also were playing in
2447
02:04:59,000 --> 02:05:01,640
like a hurricane.
So it was a lot going on down.
2448
02:05:01,640 --> 02:05:04,720
Now since then we've seen what
they've done.
2449
02:05:05,160 --> 02:05:06,360
They're still going to lose
Saturday all.
2450
02:05:06,680 --> 02:05:11,560
Right, we got the AAC packs.
SM Future ACC member SMU versus
2451
02:05:11,560 --> 02:05:15,480
Tulane, Tulane Lane 5 1/2 points
Another good game.
2452
02:05:15,480 --> 02:05:18,480
Tulane 11 and one SMU 10 and
two.
2453
02:05:19,400 --> 02:05:24,280
Any back on this one Pete?
Yeah, well SMU is 4th nationally
2454
02:05:24,600 --> 02:05:27,440
in points per game.
They have been throwing up
2455
02:05:27,440 --> 02:05:29,680
points at 69 points a couple
weeks ago.
2456
02:05:30,080 --> 02:05:33,280
Nice.
But the thing, the thing about
2457
02:05:33,280 --> 02:05:40,360
SMU is their two losses are too
TCU and Oklahoma 2P, five teams.
2458
02:05:40,400 --> 02:05:44,240
TCU is not very good.
And so my kind of thing with SMU
2459
02:05:44,240 --> 02:05:48,840
is that they're like AG5 version
of Virginia Tech.
2460
02:05:48,840 --> 02:05:51,880
Yeah, they will beat the crap
out of some bad teams, but when
2461
02:05:51,880 --> 02:05:54,600
they go up against anybody
decent, they lose.
2462
02:05:55,080 --> 02:05:58,040
And so I think Tulane's going to
win the win the ball game.
2463
02:05:58,560 --> 02:06:02,200
And Tulane, despite struggling
against ECU and a couple other
2464
02:06:02,200 --> 02:06:06,760
guys, I just think Tulane finds
a way and I think they're going
2465
02:06:06,760 --> 02:06:08,200
to be able to win the game by 6
points.
2466
02:06:08,200 --> 02:06:13,080
So I'm going to take Tulane.
All right, Pete's got Tulane.
2467
02:06:13,320 --> 02:06:14,720
Brian, who do you got in this
one?
2468
02:06:15,520 --> 02:06:18,040
I'm riding with Tulane as well.
I think they're going to put it,
2469
02:06:18,040 --> 02:06:22,160
put it together in this one.
As Pete said, SMU has struggled
2470
02:06:22,160 --> 02:06:25,680
against quality competition.
I would consider Tulane a
2471
02:06:25,920 --> 02:06:29,920
quality opponent, so I'm going
to go with Tulane here.
2472
02:06:31,280 --> 02:06:34,680
All righty.
I'm going to go different than
2473
02:06:34,680 --> 02:06:35,520
y'all.
I think.
2474
02:06:35,520 --> 02:06:38,880
I think Tulane's going to win
the game, but I think 5 1/2, as
2475
02:06:38,880 --> 02:06:41,760
good as the SMU offense is,
they'll get some points.
2476
02:06:41,760 --> 02:06:44,600
They're going to give up some
points and I think it's it's
2477
02:06:44,600 --> 02:06:47,360
what every time I see a line
like this, I think it's like
2478
02:06:47,640 --> 02:06:51,200
it's a 10 point lead.
The great offense scores with
2479
02:06:51,200 --> 02:06:56,200
six seconds left and they get
the back door cover and like,
2480
02:06:56,200 --> 02:06:58,880
oh, this is a really good game.
And like, Nah, they scored with
2481
02:06:59,080 --> 02:07:00,920
six seconds left.
They had no chance to actually
2482
02:07:00,920 --> 02:07:06,400
win this game tally.
I was cutting out.
2483
02:07:06,560 --> 02:07:09,240
I missed half of what you said
S.
2484
02:07:09,360 --> 02:07:12,120
MUSMU because they got offense
and they going to be able to at
2485
02:07:12,120 --> 02:07:15,040
least score some points.
I'm going to take two lane on
2486
02:07:15,040 --> 02:07:16,240
this man.
I'm going to take two lane
2487
02:07:16,240 --> 02:07:20,560
because I'm pretty sure that SM
US quarterback that threw for
2488
02:07:20,560 --> 02:07:24,960
like 3200 yards is hurt.
So he's out.
2489
02:07:24,960 --> 02:07:27,200
That's a big bulk of their
offense.
2490
02:07:27,200 --> 02:07:31,000
He threw for like, I don't know,
26 touchdowns and not very many
2491
02:07:31,000 --> 02:07:34,160
picks, so.
I'm going to take Tulane because
2492
02:07:34,160 --> 02:07:40,120
they're SMU signal callers down.
All righty, we got Sheldon Peaks
2493
02:07:40,160 --> 02:07:42,320
rolling up there.
I would.
2494
02:07:42,400 --> 02:07:44,280
I just want to .1 thing out
before we move on to the
2495
02:07:44,280 --> 02:07:47,440
Sunbelt.
It's just that Tulane is having
2496
02:07:47,440 --> 02:07:51,040
their starting quarterback play
against Ole Miss away from being
2497
02:07:51,040 --> 02:07:53,560
undefeated.
Like Pratt did not play against
2498
02:07:53,560 --> 02:07:57,200
Ole Miss, and if he plays in
that game, there's a good shot.
2499
02:07:57,200 --> 02:07:59,080
Tulane is undefeated going into
this.
2500
02:07:59,520 --> 02:08:02,000
By the way, it's a good thing.
This is, This is why we needed
2501
02:08:02,000 --> 02:08:06,080
12, because a team like Tulane
deserves to be in the playoff.
2502
02:08:07,560 --> 02:08:10,760
I mean they've done the last two
years and and like this and I
2503
02:08:10,760 --> 02:08:12,840
was saying something and we're
going to go off topic and y'all
2504
02:08:12,840 --> 02:08:16,440
know I got to pull myself back.
But is this not the year it
2505
02:08:16,440 --> 02:08:19,200
should have been 12 teams.
There's no one dominant power.
2506
02:08:19,200 --> 02:08:22,560
We pulled it up there and you
look and say there's
2507
02:08:22,560 --> 02:08:26,000
legitimately. 11 or 12 teams
that if they got hot and they
2508
02:08:26,000 --> 02:08:29,240
played their game, they could
beat every other team that's in
2509
02:08:29,240 --> 02:08:32,160
front of them.
Let's hope that happens next
2510
02:08:32,160 --> 02:08:34,880
year.
All right, Sunbelt Fun Belt.
2511
02:08:34,880 --> 02:08:39,120
Pete App versus App State versus
Troy, even because JMU can't
2512
02:08:39,120 --> 02:08:41,040
play Troy. 6 1/2 point
favorites.
2513
02:08:41,720 --> 02:08:45,600
What you got All right so JMU
cannot play in the game and they
2514
02:08:45,600 --> 02:08:48,800
should be in it.
However, who went into
2515
02:08:48,800 --> 02:08:51,160
Harrisonburg and won the game?
App state.
2516
02:08:51,160 --> 02:08:55,680
Did App State They deserve to be
in this game just as much as JMU
2517
02:08:55,680 --> 02:08:58,880
does In my opinion.
Troy has been awesome.
2518
02:08:58,880 --> 02:09:02,560
Their running back is a stud
over 1300 yards this year 9
2519
02:09:02,560 --> 02:09:04,720
touchdowns.
Their QB Watson and their wide
2520
02:09:04,720 --> 02:09:07,600
receivers are are probably
better than Apps.
2521
02:09:07,600 --> 02:09:11,280
Although Aguilar from from App
State has the third most passing
2522
02:09:11,280 --> 02:09:14,480
touchdowns in the country.
This game could be wild.
2523
02:09:14,480 --> 02:09:19,280
Do you guys remember last year
the Troy App State game on the
2524
02:09:19,280 --> 02:09:22,080
Hail Mary?
This was the week after AB had
2525
02:09:22,080 --> 02:09:25,400
beaten Texas A&M.
These teams play crazy games.
2526
02:09:25,400 --> 02:09:29,240
I cannot wait to see it.
I'm taking App State and the
2527
02:09:29,240 --> 02:09:30,600
points.
They have been hot.
2528
02:09:30,600 --> 02:09:32,440
I like Joey Aguilar,
quarterback.
2529
02:09:32,880 --> 02:09:36,920
I'm going Mountaineers.
All right, he goes Mountaineers.
2530
02:09:38,960 --> 02:09:42,600
Who's Shelton got?
Shelton has App state as well.
2531
02:09:42,600 --> 02:09:45,800
Tally, what you got?
Man, I'm picking with my heart,
2532
02:09:45,800 --> 02:09:47,160
man.
I'm picking the hometown
2533
02:09:47,600 --> 02:09:49,720
Trojans.
Funny story, man.
2534
02:09:50,360 --> 02:09:53,680
Jacksonville State, which is
where I went, Used to be big
2535
02:09:53,680 --> 02:09:56,920
rivals with with Troy before
they made the jump to go to the
2536
02:09:56,920 --> 02:10:00,400
big boys.
And it was the Trojans versus
2537
02:10:00,400 --> 02:10:05,400
the Cox that was always a very
cool rivalry, man.
2538
02:10:05,720 --> 02:10:10,040
You know, one of the chance was.
They can't beat our cocks while
2539
02:10:10,040 --> 02:10:12,520
holding.
While holding Trojans Trojan
2540
02:10:12,520 --> 02:10:16,120
columns in your hands.
Yeah, that's funny as little
2541
02:10:16,120 --> 02:10:17,440
man.
See that and get the video of
2542
02:10:17,440 --> 02:10:19,360
that.
Oh my God, that's awesome.
2543
02:10:20,040 --> 02:10:22,440
And so your alma mater's going
to a bowl too, there, Tal.
2544
02:10:23,240 --> 02:10:24,960
Yeah, man, Jacksonville State's
looking good.
2545
02:10:25,200 --> 02:10:27,440
They got some guys that I went
to college with that are
2546
02:10:27,440 --> 02:10:30,920
coaching down there, so I I keep
up with them pretty good.
2547
02:10:30,920 --> 02:10:34,440
They got some good players, man.
Rich Rod's down there doing this
2548
02:10:34,440 --> 02:10:35,680
thing.
Yes, that's right.
2549
02:10:35,680 --> 02:10:36,880
That's right.
All right.
2550
02:10:37,680 --> 02:10:39,600
I'm next on this one.
I'm going, I'm going to ride
2551
02:10:39,600 --> 02:10:42,040
Tally's coattails and I'm going
to go Troy as well.
2552
02:10:42,480 --> 02:10:45,680
Troy has two losses this year,
one's to a good Kansas State
2553
02:10:45,680 --> 02:10:49,560
team and one was to JMU.
The JMU loss was by two points,
2554
02:10:50,600 --> 02:10:54,440
so that is a good Troy team.
I think what we saw with App
2555
02:10:54,440 --> 02:10:57,720
State when they beat JMU, it's
like it happens every year.
2556
02:10:57,720 --> 02:10:59,680
Somebody gets built up and built
up.
2557
02:10:59,760 --> 02:11:01,320
They don't understand how to
play.
2558
02:11:01,320 --> 02:11:05,160
App State had been there.
How many times as Dave has been
2559
02:11:05,160 --> 02:11:07,200
there has pulled the upsets?
Easy.
2560
02:11:07,640 --> 02:11:08,560
See.
Look who you got.
2561
02:11:10,320 --> 02:11:12,720
I'm rolling with that state for
the opposite reason that you
2562
02:11:12,720 --> 02:11:14,840
just said.
I think they are riding some
2563
02:11:14,840 --> 02:11:17,200
momentum now.
They show that they could beat a
2564
02:11:17,200 --> 02:11:20,080
team that is earlier in the year
taking care of Troy.
2565
02:11:20,080 --> 02:11:23,160
So I feel like they are feeling
themselves a little bit.
2566
02:11:23,160 --> 02:11:24,560
I think they're going to take
care of business.
2567
02:11:24,920 --> 02:11:27,440
Yeah.
Five straight for AP9, straight
2568
02:11:27,440 --> 02:11:30,040
for Troy.
This is 2 hot teams coming in.
2569
02:11:30,040 --> 02:11:31,120
I can't wait to see what
happens.
2570
02:11:31,440 --> 02:11:33,800
All righty All right, we got two
more left.
2571
02:11:33,800 --> 02:11:36,640
We're going to start with the
Big 10 championship game where
2572
02:11:36,640 --> 02:11:40,920
it's the Iowa Hawkeyes and I'm
pretty sure still the dead last
2573
02:11:40,960 --> 02:11:45,960
offense in the country at 131
against the Michigan Wolverines.
2574
02:11:45,960 --> 02:11:49,800
Michigan, a 23 point favorite.
This is in Brian's home stadium,
2575
02:11:49,800 --> 02:11:52,040
the Lucas Oil Stadium of his
Colts.
2576
02:11:53,280 --> 02:11:55,000
Pete, what are we seeing on this
one?
2577
02:11:55,480 --> 02:11:59,920
Yeah, I mean, you nailed it,
Curtis, Like 133rd in yards per
2578
02:11:59,920 --> 02:12:02,880
play.
How in your I saw pen, Spencer
2579
02:12:02,880 --> 02:12:04,520
Petrus jumped in the portal
today.
2580
02:12:04,960 --> 02:12:08,240
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
How could any offensive player
2581
02:12:08,480 --> 02:12:10,600
on Iowa not be jumping in the
portal?
2582
02:12:10,600 --> 02:12:12,840
They have been absolutely putrid
on offense for years.
2583
02:12:13,200 --> 02:12:14,600
I don't know how they won 10
games.
2584
02:12:14,680 --> 02:12:17,400
I really don't.
They scraped by Nebraska by the
2585
02:12:17,400 --> 02:12:19,400
skin of their teeth to get that
tenth win.
2586
02:12:20,040 --> 02:12:23,760
Their best win of the season was
probably against Iowa State who
2587
02:12:23,760 --> 02:12:28,160
is mid at best.
So their strength of schedule is
2588
02:12:28,160 --> 02:12:30,040
worse than Virginia Tech's.
If you look at the Colleen
2589
02:12:30,040 --> 02:12:34,080
matrix, Michigan will win.
Let's not, let's not make any
2590
02:12:34,080 --> 02:12:37,760
bones about this, It's going to
be could.
2591
02:12:37,760 --> 02:12:39,080
Could Iowa cover?
Sure.
2592
02:12:39,320 --> 02:12:41,240
But is Iowa going to score a
point?
2593
02:12:41,920 --> 02:12:44,240
Like is Iowa going to score a
point?
2594
02:12:44,320 --> 02:12:46,720
And if they don't score a point,
Michigan's getting 24.
2595
02:12:46,720 --> 02:12:48,320
I'm taking Michigan there.
You go.
2596
02:12:49,120 --> 02:12:50,720
He's taking Michigan, Brian, who
are you taking?
2597
02:12:52,480 --> 02:12:55,880
I just feel like Iowa's defense
is going to keep it just close
2598
02:12:55,880 --> 02:12:59,680
and I think they do get one
touchdown against Michigan and
2599
02:12:59,680 --> 02:13:00,560
that is.
Enough.
2600
02:13:01,880 --> 02:13:05,480
This is true, by the way.
They're giving the O underline
2601
02:13:05,480 --> 02:13:08,280
That was last week because it
was 24 last week.
2602
02:13:08,920 --> 02:13:13,040
Oh my God.
And they did the under, hit it,
2603
02:13:13,160 --> 02:13:16,360
hit it, hit.
We we we our our music guy,
2604
02:13:16,400 --> 02:13:19,000
Jason.
Get dabbles a little bit.
2605
02:13:19,000 --> 02:13:21,120
We're like, you just got to take
the under and watch that game
2606
02:13:21,120 --> 02:13:23,920
because it's taking an under and
watching a game is just an
2607
02:13:23,920 --> 02:13:27,760
experience.
I'm going to take Michigan here,
2608
02:13:28,920 --> 02:13:31,160
I think Michigan, Pete, I'm with
you.
2609
02:13:31,640 --> 02:13:33,000
Iowa's not going to score a
point.
2610
02:13:33,320 --> 02:13:35,280
They're not.
They're not scoring one point,
2611
02:13:35,280 --> 02:13:38,440
Let's say block a field goal or
take one back to the house.
2612
02:13:39,880 --> 02:13:43,880
And I think Michigan is going to
get to about 28 or 31.
2613
02:13:44,160 --> 02:13:48,920
So also the 35 1/2 over under
take the under, take the under.
2614
02:13:48,920 --> 02:13:53,280
That is the easiest money
anybody will make this week. 35
2615
02:13:53,280 --> 02:13:58,520
1/2 under on this game, yeah.
Man, I got to go with Iowa on
2616
02:13:58,520 --> 02:14:00,560
this, man.
I just think that they're like,
2617
02:14:00,560 --> 02:14:02,000
Brian said.
I don't think they're going to
2618
02:14:02,000 --> 02:14:04,320
win the game, but.
Any any means.
2619
02:14:04,320 --> 02:14:07,120
But I mean, that's a lot of
points, man.
2620
02:14:07,720 --> 02:14:09,960
You know what I'm saying?
It's just a lot of points in a
2621
02:14:09,960 --> 02:14:13,080
championship game for us to see
crazy stuff happen.
2622
02:14:13,080 --> 02:14:16,520
So I just think that we're going
to get, you know, I don't know
2623
02:14:18,120 --> 02:14:21,960
not a 24 point win by Michigan
and and one thing that you guys
2624
02:14:21,960 --> 02:14:25,280
got going in your favor is the
fact that Michigan did lose
2625
02:14:25,440 --> 02:14:28,120
their center last game.
Like that would that would
2626
02:14:28,120 --> 02:14:31,320
that's a big loss and I think
they are already lost a guard at
2627
02:14:31,320 --> 02:14:33,720
one point.
So there is something that could
2628
02:14:33,720 --> 02:14:36,760
potentially hold the Michigan
offense back here and not having
2629
02:14:36,760 --> 02:14:39,360
their dudes up front.
Nevertheless, I'm going to stick
2630
02:14:39,360 --> 02:14:42,280
with my Michigan, all right?
Shelton.
2631
02:14:42,720 --> 02:14:45,400
Shelton Rd.
With Iowa and obviously Pete's.
2632
02:14:45,560 --> 02:14:50,520
Pete's with Michigan here all.
Right, last game ACC title game
2633
02:14:50,520 --> 02:14:54,480
Louisville, FSU, Louisville or
FSU at 2 1/2 point.
2634
02:14:54,480 --> 02:14:57,400
Favorite Pete.
What were your impressions to
2635
02:14:57,400 --> 02:15:00,160
take Rodmaker last week in the
Swamp against a solid Florida
2636
02:15:00,160 --> 02:15:03,760
defense?
They weren't good to start off,
2637
02:15:03,800 --> 02:15:10,240
I'll say that the the guy didn't
complete 50% of his passes. 134
2638
02:15:10,240 --> 02:15:12,600
yards, got his clock cleaned
trying to slide.
2639
02:15:14,240 --> 02:15:17,520
No, I wasn't impressed.
I also wasn't impressed that
2640
02:15:17,520 --> 02:15:23,040
Florida State gave up 244 yards
rushing to the Florida offense.
2641
02:15:23,280 --> 02:15:27,440
That's something that if
Louisville can run the football,
2642
02:15:28,080 --> 02:15:30,360
that's going to be a huge
problem for Florida State in
2643
02:15:30,360 --> 02:15:32,840
this game.
Brahm kind of just got his pants
2644
02:15:32,840 --> 02:15:34,680
pulled down by Mark Stoops last
week.
2645
02:15:35,040 --> 02:15:38,960
You know, he's going to scheme
something up for this
2646
02:15:38,960 --> 02:15:40,880
championship game.
Brahm's a very good coach.
2647
02:15:40,920 --> 02:15:44,320
I think Norvell is a good coach.
And the line is tight, right?
2648
02:15:44,800 --> 02:15:50,640
The the 15 yards per run.
Like if you look at, yeah, yards
2649
02:15:50,640 --> 02:15:53,600
per run allowed, Louisville is
15.
2650
02:15:53,960 --> 02:15:56,480
I know they, they, they didn't
have the best game against
2651
02:15:56,600 --> 02:15:58,440
Kentucky.
They've only gave up like 84
2652
02:15:58,440 --> 02:16:01,560
rushing yards.
If they can slow Benson down,
2653
02:16:01,760 --> 02:16:05,160
Louisville is going to have a
tremendous chance to win this
2654
02:16:05,160 --> 02:16:08,280
game.
And so I went back and forth on
2655
02:16:08,280 --> 02:16:10,160
this because I think Louisville
has a real shot.
2656
02:16:10,280 --> 02:16:13,320
I I really do.
I'm going to take floor state.
2657
02:16:13,320 --> 02:16:15,520
It's under a field goal as we're
picking it.
2658
02:16:15,800 --> 02:16:18,680
I'm going to take floor state
with a gun in my head, but I do
2659
02:16:18,680 --> 02:16:23,280
not like it.
What's Sheldon got on this one?
2660
02:16:23,560 --> 02:16:25,360
Sheldon's riding with FSU as
well.
2661
02:16:26,240 --> 02:16:29,040
Tally.
I got to go FSU, man.
2662
02:16:29,320 --> 02:16:32,480
I got to go FSUI don't have any
rhyme or reason behind it.
2663
02:16:32,480 --> 02:16:37,040
I just think they're going to.
Win and I I I'm, I'm, I'm riding
2664
02:16:37,040 --> 02:16:38,879
FSU as well.
I think they're going to win
2665
02:16:38,879 --> 02:16:40,360
this game and get in the
playoff.
2666
02:16:40,680 --> 02:16:43,639
I think they've they've got a
well balanced enough team that
2667
02:16:43,639 --> 02:16:47,200
they can do it.
And again I think you talked
2668
02:16:47,200 --> 02:16:50,040
about I think being in the swamp
might have been the best thing
2669
02:16:50,040 --> 02:16:52,400
for Tate.
Rodemaker hostile environment.
2670
02:16:52,400 --> 02:16:54,520
Loud.
Playing a solid defense.
2671
02:16:54,920 --> 02:16:58,879
Because now, even though
Louisville is a good defense,
2672
02:16:59,760 --> 02:17:01,440
it's the environment.
You're going to the Charlotte,
2673
02:17:01,440 --> 02:17:02,840
you're going to Bank of America
Stadium.
2674
02:17:03,040 --> 02:17:04,959
You're not going to have people
going crazy in your ear.
2675
02:17:05,360 --> 02:17:07,600
And and I think they make the
playoff.
2676
02:17:07,639 --> 02:17:09,600
I don't know if they do anything
in the playoff, but they make
2677
02:17:09,600 --> 02:17:12,040
it.
Curtis, you're absolutely right
2678
02:17:12,040 --> 02:17:16,400
on that because the The Swamp is
such a tough place to play and
2679
02:17:16,400 --> 02:17:20,080
so that you couldn't have asked
for a better because he came out
2680
02:17:20,080 --> 02:17:23,920
on the winning side and so now
they do have the better overall
2681
02:17:23,920 --> 02:17:25,559
roster.
So I'm with you.
2682
02:17:26,799 --> 02:17:30,879
Yeah, I think this is a bounce.
It's a bounce back week for the
2683
02:17:30,879 --> 02:17:33,440
FSU defense.
I think they take care of
2684
02:17:33,440 --> 02:17:34,879
business.
I think they do just enough
2685
02:17:34,879 --> 02:17:38,400
offensively to outlast the
Cardinals there.
2686
02:17:38,400 --> 02:17:41,360
So give me FSU as well.
All righty.
2687
02:17:41,680 --> 02:17:43,400
So they're all our wonderful
lines.
2688
02:17:43,400 --> 02:17:45,280
That was a lot of fun to pick
these games.
2689
02:17:45,280 --> 02:17:47,280
We got to Pete.
Regardless, you're coming back
2690
02:17:47,280 --> 02:17:50,280
and doing this next year.
Even if Shelton's on, we're
2691
02:17:50,280 --> 02:17:51,959
still doing this.
All righty.
2692
02:17:51,959 --> 02:17:54,400
We got one more thing.
I'll let Brian take that down.
2693
02:17:55,440 --> 02:17:59,240
And we won't know likely until
Sunday afternoon as we're
2694
02:17:59,240 --> 02:18:01,920
probably watching NFL, seeing if
we can make our fantasy
2695
02:18:01,920 --> 02:18:04,240
playoffs.
But I'm going to start with that
2696
02:18:04,240 --> 02:18:06,320
guest here.
Pete, Bowl projections for
2697
02:18:06,320 --> 02:18:08,520
Virginia Tech.
Where do you think we're going
2698
02:18:08,520 --> 02:18:10,600
to go?
Who are we going to play?
2699
02:18:11,879 --> 02:18:16,120
Overwhelming projections say
Military Bowl, that that's where
2700
02:18:16,120 --> 02:18:17,719
most of the people are
projecting us to.
2701
02:18:18,160 --> 02:18:21,680
Do we have a chance at the
Duke's Mayo or the Sun Bowl?
2702
02:18:21,959 --> 02:18:25,920
Yes, but in the Military Bowl,
Memphis I think has been
2703
02:18:25,920 --> 02:18:28,160
mentioned the most as a
potential matchup.
2704
02:18:28,719 --> 02:18:36,840
I've seen Rice in there, SMU in
there, UTSA, Navy, if I would
2705
02:18:36,840 --> 02:18:39,000
say it's the Military Bowl
against Memphis.
2706
02:18:39,360 --> 02:18:43,480
But it's probably my first
choice too because we, we can
2707
02:18:43,480 --> 02:18:45,719
get so many Hokies there.
It's easy to get to.
2708
02:18:45,719 --> 02:18:50,480
Do I want to play in El Paso?
No, not really.
2709
02:18:50,840 --> 02:18:54,240
I don't want to go to the Tony
the Tiger bowl, but that that's
2710
02:18:54,240 --> 02:18:56,600
a that's one of the higher
possibilities.
2711
02:18:56,600 --> 02:18:58,760
A lot of the other ones are are
probably more remote.
2712
02:19:00,400 --> 02:19:02,240
All righty.
So he's going military.
2713
02:19:02,240 --> 02:19:04,639
Memphis Tally, What do you
think?
2714
02:19:05,719 --> 02:19:09,879
I keep saying military SMU, so
I'm going to go with that
2715
02:19:10,959 --> 02:19:15,480
Military SMU.
Matter of fact, I'm putting up a
2716
02:19:15,559 --> 02:19:21,320
GoFundMe on my Twitter page.
I need y'all to start sending
2717
02:19:21,320 --> 02:19:23,600
some stuff so I can go to this
game wherever it's at.
2718
02:19:24,400 --> 02:19:27,600
I think they need me there to
win, so y'all start.
2719
02:19:27,959 --> 02:19:32,920
Start donating.
I start donating single.
2720
02:19:32,959 --> 02:19:36,240
Who you got, man?
I'm I'm kind of leaning towards
2721
02:19:36,400 --> 02:19:40,920
I I want it to be Duke's Mayo.
But I'm the more I think about
2722
02:19:40,920 --> 02:19:43,320
it, it's looking like the
military is going to be the
2723
02:19:43,320 --> 02:19:48,120
pick.
You know what, as much as I I I
2724
02:19:48,120 --> 02:19:49,760
like Memphis.
I think that would be a better
2725
02:19:49,760 --> 02:19:52,280
match up for us.
I'm kind of intrigued by the
2726
02:19:52,360 --> 02:19:57,440
future ACC member SSMU match up,
so let let me get that one.
2727
02:19:58,200 --> 02:20:01,240
Yeah, you see a lot on here
because you got, you got the
2728
02:20:01,240 --> 02:20:03,800
Fenway, you got the pinstripe.
We're not going to the pinstripe
2729
02:20:03,800 --> 02:20:05,400
Bowl.
Just write that one off.
2730
02:20:05,400 --> 02:20:06,840
They're not going to send us out
West.
2731
02:20:07,200 --> 02:20:09,720
I saw the projection today.
Clemson's going out West.
2732
02:20:09,720 --> 02:20:12,080
Play USC.
That would be fun.
2733
02:20:12,240 --> 02:20:14,400
That's a guarantee right there.
They're going to the Holiday
2734
02:20:14,400 --> 02:20:16,880
Bowl.
But I think, Brian, you just
2735
02:20:16,880 --> 02:20:18,120
said it.
I think it's going to be the
2736
02:20:18,120 --> 02:20:22,000
Military Bowl because they know
Hokies in Northern Virginia,
2737
02:20:22,000 --> 02:20:24,520
Richmond, even peep where you
are.
2738
02:20:24,520 --> 02:20:28,160
It's not that far of a drive for
you down to Annapolis, Easy
2739
02:20:28,160 --> 02:20:30,120
drive.
They fill up the stadium and
2740
02:20:30,120 --> 02:20:33,560
then ESPN gets a narrative when
they put SMU in there.
2741
02:20:34,480 --> 02:20:36,600
This game is going to happen in
the future.
2742
02:20:36,600 --> 02:20:41,440
The SMU versus Virginia Tech.
And I think for us it would be a
2743
02:20:41,440 --> 02:20:43,520
challenge.
I do that.
2744
02:20:43,560 --> 02:20:47,160
It sure as hell would.
Now here's what we hope though.
2745
02:20:47,240 --> 02:20:49,120
We hope it's a good old
Annapolis weather.
2746
02:20:49,120 --> 02:20:51,680
It's about 36�� and it's a little
drizzle.
2747
02:20:51,680 --> 02:20:55,960
With that high-powered offense,
they got to make some decisions.
2748
02:20:56,320 --> 02:20:59,680
I mean, one of my least favorite
projections is the Kentucky
2749
02:20:59,680 --> 02:21:01,440
Duke's Mayo Bowl.
Like, you know, if we had to
2750
02:21:01,440 --> 02:21:07,000
play that, we do not want any
part of Lynn Bowden two point O,
2751
02:21:07,360 --> 02:21:10,000
We don't.
We don't want because Ray Davis,
2752
02:21:10,200 --> 02:21:15,320
that rushing offense, they would
destroy what we got going on in
2753
02:21:15,320 --> 02:21:17,600
the linebacking core and whatnot
like that.
2754
02:21:17,600 --> 02:21:19,760
That just would not be good.
I don't.
2755
02:21:19,760 --> 02:21:22,720
I do not want either Robbie.
Shane didn't make it.
2756
02:21:22,800 --> 02:21:23,840
Shane didn't make.
It.
2757
02:21:26,400 --> 02:21:29,640
Not this year.
Not this year, no Mayo, for
2758
02:21:29,640 --> 02:21:31,080
shame.
This year that's not going to
2759
02:21:31,080 --> 02:21:32,880
happen.
I did think when I saw the Sun
2760
02:21:32,880 --> 02:21:36,520
Bowl projection for Virginia
Tech against USC, like I did
2761
02:21:36,520 --> 02:21:39,160
kind of perk up like that just
sounds wild.
2762
02:21:39,160 --> 02:21:43,120
And the fact that, like, we have
some corners, could we defend I?
2763
02:21:43,200 --> 02:21:44,680
Who knows?
Well, Caleb Williams wouldn't be
2764
02:21:44,720 --> 02:21:45,360
playing.
He wouldn't.
2765
02:21:45,360 --> 02:21:46,880
Even play.
So I can say half of them
2766
02:21:46,880 --> 02:21:48,000
wouldn't.
Yeah, that's true.
2767
02:21:48,160 --> 02:21:50,640
That's true.
So we might get A, we might get
2768
02:21:50,640 --> 02:21:53,200
the B team.
And still get worked.
2769
02:21:53,280 --> 02:21:55,280
I don't know.
Yeah, I just hope our guys
2770
02:21:55,320 --> 02:21:56,720
playing the bowl game, that's
all I want.
2771
02:21:56,920 --> 02:21:59,640
Yeah, right, exactly.
We already got people declaring
2772
02:21:59,640 --> 02:22:01,800
for the portal, so we.
Got people already not playing.
2773
02:22:01,920 --> 02:22:04,840
So but again, it's just fun to
be back in a bowl.
2774
02:22:05,240 --> 02:22:06,560
I mean it.
It's a little we missed one
2775
02:22:06,560 --> 02:22:08,480
season.
And it's just it's fun to have
2776
02:22:08,480 --> 02:22:12,760
conversations like this because.
It is 1000% fun.
2777
02:22:12,920 --> 02:22:15,000
It was depressing last year.
It was very depressing.
2778
02:22:15,000 --> 02:22:17,480
Depressing.
Yes, it was all right.
2779
02:22:17,920 --> 02:22:22,640
It is after midnight here on the
East Coast, over 2 hours, 23
2780
02:22:22,640 --> 02:22:23,960
minutes.
It has been a blast.
2781
02:22:23,960 --> 02:22:25,680
Pete, we really appreciate you
joining us.
2782
02:22:25,920 --> 02:22:28,440
Has anything broken in the last
two hours?
2783
02:22:28,440 --> 02:22:29,960
I mean, obviously a coach got
hired.
2784
02:22:29,960 --> 02:22:31,960
So has anything else broken?
Has anybody else entered the
2785
02:22:31,960 --> 02:22:35,680
portal or anything like?
Pete, that Pete may be entering
2786
02:22:35,680 --> 02:22:37,400
the portal and coming to
Boundary corner.
2787
02:22:37,400 --> 02:22:39,600
I'm just letting y'all know
you're talking behind this
2788
02:22:39,720 --> 02:22:43,000
thing.
You got you got too many people
2789
02:22:43,000 --> 02:22:44,360
on this podcast already.
You.
2790
02:22:45,200 --> 02:22:47,280
Can never have.
You can never have too many good
2791
02:22:47,360 --> 02:22:49,440
people.
I never had too many good.
2792
02:22:49,440 --> 02:22:50,760
I love hanging out with you
guys.
2793
02:22:50,760 --> 02:22:55,200
I, you know, and you gave me
some props earlier for for what
2794
02:22:55,200 --> 02:22:58,040
I said on your panel.
Well go back to the spring when
2795
02:22:58,040 --> 02:23:01,720
we did the the spring preview
spring game preview down in at
2796
02:23:01,720 --> 02:23:06,040
Sharky's and I asked, I asked
Brian like who does he like at
2797
02:23:06,040 --> 02:23:09,160
wide receiver and he was like
Gimme Felton and like we had
2798
02:23:09,160 --> 02:23:13,120
heard nothing to that point
about Daquan Felton and Brian
2799
02:23:13,120 --> 02:23:15,720
just pulled it right out.
I was like, OK, we'll see what
2800
02:23:15,720 --> 02:23:18,880
happens and look at felt in the
last three games. 321 yards, 4
2801
02:23:18,880 --> 02:23:21,560
touchdowns, Good call.
Buddy Baller.
2802
02:23:21,640 --> 02:23:23,480
Putting in the work.
Putting in the work, man.
2803
02:23:24,480 --> 02:23:27,680
Well, boys, that does wrap up
this episode of the Boundary
2804
02:23:27,680 --> 02:23:31,560
Corner podcast, brought to you
by Main Street Pharmacy with our
2805
02:23:31,560 --> 02:23:33,840
esteemed guest Pete B I'm
Curtis.
2806
02:23:33,840 --> 02:23:38,320
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02:23:38,320 --> 02:23:41,520
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2812
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02:23:56,080 --> 02:23:58,480
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2817
02:24:01,400 --> 02:24:03,960
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2818
02:24:04,640 --> 02:24:08,800
Boys, it's been a great season.
Six and six.
2819
02:24:08,800 --> 02:24:10,240
Some people say, well, that's
nothing.
2820
02:24:10,240 --> 02:24:13,200
Where we were last year at this
time with three wins, it did not
2821
02:24:13,200 --> 02:24:15,720
look good.
But we're getting back.
2822
02:24:15,720 --> 02:24:20,000
We saw the development and one
last time during the regular
2823
02:24:20,000 --> 02:24:22,160
season.
Let's go.
2824
02:24:22,880 --> 02:24:25,360
Okey.
Okey, thank you Lord for
2825
02:24:25,360 --> 02:24:32,680
covering drones.
The.
00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:47,480
Music.
And welcome back to the Boundary
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Corner Podcast along with my
partners Brian Siegel and
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00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,320
Jonathan Talley.
And tonight our very special
4
00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:58,000
guest from 2D PBI AM Curtis
Wilson.
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00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,840
And this episode of the Boundary
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by Doctor Jeremy Counts at the
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Pharmacy, 301 S Main St.
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10
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I believe it's that Commonwealth
Cup.
11
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Some fucking winners is what the
opposite of what's in
12
00:01:21,960 --> 00:01:24,360
Charlottesville.
There we go, losers.
13
00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:28,760
Pete, we appreciate you joining
us tonight, man.
14
00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:32,080
How are you doing and how?
Is the game Saturday?
15
00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,920
I'm still feeling good, man.
You know, I watched at home for
16
00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,920
the first half.
My my wife had to watch me act
17
00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,800
like a fool for for a good 60 to
90 minutes.
18
00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,160
And then we went to the bar for
a little while and I was I was
19
00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:45,880
more calm because the game was
in hand.
20
00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,280
It's nice having a game in hand
in the first half.
21
00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,160
Like, complete second-half.
No sweat.
22
00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,680
Just like, let's see how much we
can put up on these fuckers.
23
00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,680
Well, Brian likes that too,
because the last time Thursday
24
00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,280
night Syracuse game, we're
playing poker in the basement
25
00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,600
and we get up like 20.
What was it like 20?
26
00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,280
Or something like that it was.
24 We got this one on 24 I'm
27
00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:10,479
going.
To play now.
28
00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,760
Next thing you know, he walked
out with like 65 bucks that
29
00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:13,760
night.
Like whoa.
30
00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,360
Like he was.
Playing loose, I was, I was
31
00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:17,800
feeling myself.
I was like, let's, let's go,
32
00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:21,360
man.
Oh my gosh, by the way, Yep, Mr.
33
00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,520
Drones joining us tonight.
Let's go.
34
00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,120
If y'all haven't seen Mr.
Drones.
35
00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:31,040
Also got his Boundary Corner
water bottle today and is out
36
00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:32,040
there on Twitter.
But.
37
00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:34,360
Y'all.
We have a ton to unload.
38
00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:35,960
Pete is here for a lot of
reasons.
39
00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,000
A We love.
Pete, can I can I say something?
40
00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:40,840
Go ahead.
Can I say something?
41
00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:45,320
Because Pete's here Pete Pete is
here because that is that's
42
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prophet Pete.
Prophet Pete from the preview
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panel, a lot of PS but that's
Prophet Pete because when he
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came on the when he came on the
on the panel he told us some
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things.
He talked about some things.
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And I watched it come to
fruition and I said, damn that
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motherfucker, smart.
I've tweeted that video out a
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couple times from.
I was going to do it too, but I
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say, you know what, I'm going to
let him do that.
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Oh, I'm going to wait until he
comes on and we might tweet it
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out after that.
But seriously, if you go back
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shameless plug, look at the
preview panel and listen at what
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Pete said about this team this
year.
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We had a lot of people doubting.
We had a lot of people that
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didn't know swaying one way or
the other.
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And a lot of the things that
Pete said in there came came
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true and I was, I definitely was
happy to see it.
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I mean I was on, I was on board
the whole time kind of what
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where we are.
But like I said, the stuff that
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Pete talked about in that show
was was pretty cool to see it
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come to, I don't know just about
the 2019 team and how this team
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compared.
And and while I was talking
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about that, I said if things
aren't going so well, we might
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see Karen drones and we might
get a spark in the team and have
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a very similar run like we had
in 2019.
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I hoped that it didn't go like
that because I was hoping Grant
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Wells would come in, hit the
ground running we we'd be fine.
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But that's not how it went.
And it it did turn out a little
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bit like 2019 and there was some
comparisons in there.
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But I appreciate you bringing
that up Tally, because I have
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thought about that a couple
times since.
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Definitely, man.
You know what else I started to
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to tweet out too?
Mike McDaniel and David Y'all
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came on this show and you told
me.
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You didn't see us making it.
You was doubters, man.
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I love y'all.
But guess what?
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You were fucking wrong.
You said five.
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I told you to go to six with me.
You wouldn't move.
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You wouldn't move.
So kind of move.
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We love y'all.
He tried to sell them into
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coming up to six with him
because Tally had a good feeling
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about to see.
Tally was also very happy to see
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that win because Tally was
sitting here last week after we
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got off.
He's like, y'all we got to win
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this fucking game Because if we
don't win this game.
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My whole or of we're going to
have.
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It this season's going to come
from my boy.
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I know they had me.
I know they had me.
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Bookmarked.
Yeah, people had you bookmarked.
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I know they had me bookmarked,
man.
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But you know what boys?
Everything went to fruition.
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Like Pete said, we're going
bowling for the first time since
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2021.
Back in that double up on wins
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this year.
Look who's in the house.
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There.
He is.
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And we got to do what we
normally do, Pete, every
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Tuesday, whether it's us three
or Shelton's able to join us.
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You're joining us this week.
We tell the truth Tuesday.
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And it's a concept that comes
from one of our friends who's in
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the coaching ranks to concept
Pete Carroll sit.
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You sit down every for them.
It's Monday and you say what
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went well.
What went bad?
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What can we do better and what
we didn't expect?
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So y'all, let's just start it
right out there and about what
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went well.
And I'm going to say this, it's
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the edge that this team played
on both sides of the ball.
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They played mean, they played
nasty.
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They wanted to go out and hit
people.
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They found contact.
And and that's a that's a that's
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a thing you got to love to see
when it comes to the the sport
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of football as a team that wants
to do that because it's the it's
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basically putting their will on
someone.
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That team reminded me a little
bit of some of those 2000s team
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that would literally break break
teams will with their
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physicality, and that output on
Saturday reminded me some of
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that getting getting back to
that type, that brand of
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football.
That's definitely been missing.
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I thought the O line definitely
played physical and I thought
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the play calling was pretty
outstanding, especially while we
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were still working the formula
or so to speak.
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In terms of setting up the pass
with the with the RPO game and
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having Chiron run a lot early
and then that led to the passes
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late.
I thought Tyler Bowen called a
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great game.
Yeah, man.
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I mean, it comes down to the the
brightest stars are going to
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shine the brightest.
You know what I'm saying?
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Like the the biggest stars shine
the brightest.
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When you get in the in the
position to shine, that's what
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you do.
You know what I mean?
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So we went in there, we had our
mindset on what we needed to do.
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And I feel like every star on
our team went out there with a
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purpose and they did what they
were supposed to do.
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You had, you had drones, you had
two, you had lane.
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Even though in the stat sheet it
shows he didn't catch a pass, he
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called a touchdown.
There was no holding on that
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plan.
I don't know.
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D Tackle falling down is not
holding.
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Yeah, and then he let it go and
then the the offensive lineman
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let go.
But anyway, I digress.
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You know Felton and the the
Tucker Holloway and he, the
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coaches from the top to the
bottom.
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We went out there and we beat
their ass like we was better
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than them.
We went and showed it.
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They tried to have some
fabricated hatred or something
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through the week with that
quarterback and a couple of
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their players had some stuff
going on.
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Well, I hope that you stopped
coughing up blood by now.
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OK.
How about that pressure on
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Calandria?
Tell me.
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Hey, Brian, real quick before we
because we're going to hit the
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defense first, you'll hold those
thoughts in.
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Brian, you put something on here
about the win itself and I want
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you to explain why you wrote
that, because you wrote that in
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there.
I didn't.
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Which one?
The culture win.
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Yeah, I mean, like I was saying,
you know, thinking back back to
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those 2000, like this looked
like a team that was playing
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with an edge with a type of
intensity that I have not seen
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in a while.
Like whether it's APR going out
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there and honestly getting a
couple late hits on the
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quarterback that rattled his
cage, that shook him up.
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And that was the, I mean, they
had two first downs in the first
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half.
They were both off of those.
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But that quarterback was not the
same.
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And that's how we used to set
the tone.
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And I got.
To give a little, I got to give
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a little bit of credit to the
quarter, to UVA's quarterback
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because he kept getting up.
You know, people like he he's a
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warrior, man.
I got to give him his props.
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He kept getting up, but he kept
getting hit, man.
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He got to understand like you
you.
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I'm from Alabama and I'm a
Virginia Tech fan.
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So when I first.
Started like, I've been a
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Virginia Tech fan for a long
time, but when I first started,
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you know, getting involved with
Virginia Tech, Twitter or going
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to the games and things like
that, it's certain stuff that
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you got to know and you got to
adapt into.
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One of the things that I did
when I went to one of my first
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games, somebody asked me about
Frank Beam and I was like, yeah,
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it's time for him to go.
That was not the right thing to
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say.
I'm going to tell you right
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quick, like it was some people
that was on my ass.
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Hey man, you can't say that you?
We don't talk about Frank like
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that.
I was like, y'all ask me a
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question.
You know, he's a, he's a kid
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from Florida that came to
Virginia.
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I guess they did a great job
recruiting.
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And he starts talking about this
rivalry not really knowing the
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roots of it, I don't think.
Because if you start looking at
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the kids that had, you know,
ties to being pissed off at him,
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you had pain.
You had APR, you know Fuga's in
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there.
You know, and then you had
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Narelle Pollock, who is from
Florida, but he's been at
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Virginia Tech for 19 years.
So I mean, these are people that
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know what this rivalry is and.
Got some shots in at him too.
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I mean, the statements that he
made was just.
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You just don't do that.
It's not.
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It's not good business for him.
Because what do you all think?
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Where do you all think all those
things went?
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Where do you think that?
As soon as that, as soon as he
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said that, it, I mean tweeted it
out on Saturday.
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It was on every screen, it was
on every locker.
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It, it was posted everywhere.
And it should be because you
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think about who we have on our
side in our coaching staff, the
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Pearson Preludes, the Adidas, JC
Price.
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I mean it's endless.
And all of those guys have a
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deep understanding of this
rivalry and it's something that
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I'm sure there's some some UVA
guys on that staff over there.
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It's just not the same.
Our head coach was in our
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building as an as an assistant
back in the day.
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He has an understanding.
He went to high school in
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Virginia.
It's and we brought in Frank
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Beamer.
I don't know if you guys saw the
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video.
That he put out a couple hours
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ago, but Frank talked to the
team and I can.
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I can only imagine how much this
was emphasized, especially after
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that NC State game didn't go so
well.
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These guys were mentally ready.
They were more mentally prepared
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for this game.
They played like it and our
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coaches coach like it. 100% and
it started up front and you say
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it started on defense.
Y'all are mentioned that the QB
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pressures. 6 sacks, 7 players,
seven players with at least a
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half a sack or better.
Cole Nelson and his motor going
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crazy, finding Calandri multiple
times, slamming him down.
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But it was just the whole game,
right?
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That whole game that D line
attacked and Y'all mentioned
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Fuga, Y'all mentioned APR.
It was.
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They literally just said we're
pinning our ears back every play
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and we're going to attack like.
Well, we saw early on they were
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not going to be effective
rushing the football.
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So bend your ears back, go after
his ass.
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The only way they're winning is
if they get the ball down field.
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If he drops back, hit his ass
and it showed up on the stat
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sheet too, because we had the
six sacks in total.
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There were five on Calandria,
but there were eight hurries.
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We had only had a maximum of
four hurries.
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In any other game we had double
that and then we had six sacks
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on top of that.
That's an immense amount of
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pressure.
Crazy amount of pressure.
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And then if you think about it
too, and this is my feeling on
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it, y'all, don't see what you
want to say.
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I almost think JC Price told
them on that first drive.
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I don't give a shit.
Hit him.
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I don't give a fuck.
If the ball is released, hit
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him.
And and to your pallet.
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To your point, just a few
minutes ago he kept getting up
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but he knew it was coming.
It was White Day.
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I know it's him.
He was thinking about even the
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touchdown pass.
He threw the deep one.
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Like he got rocked and.
He was slogan.
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He got rocked.
And then it was crazy to me when
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they reviewed the, when they
reviewed the, the hit from one
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of the hits from pain where he
hit him in the shoulder.
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And the commentator's like,
that's not a targeting.
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That's not they.
They better not call that a
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targeting because his his face
mask is up and he doesn't even
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hit his helmet.
You know what I'm saying?
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It's like it.
Was hers like who?
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Always seems to shit.
It's like it also said I hate
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him.
But it was like it was
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controlled aggression, man, you
know what I'm saying.
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Besides, besides APR getting too
late hits, but it was like we
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ain't getting kicked out of the
game.
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We're not going to target when
he starts to slide.
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We'll whatever, we're going to
hit him every play.
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Though that first one wasn't
going to be that bad, but Fuga
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got a piece of calandry at the
end and he just fell right into
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where APR was coming through and
and just teed off on it, man.
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The second one, yeah.
A little little, little, little,
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little late.
But you know.
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They should have never threw one
on Burgos, though.
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Burgos was just legitimately
there as he was finishing his
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throw and they were just like,
all right, y'all got to stop it.
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Y'all got to stop hurting it.
You're being mean.
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But then y'all saw it, and we
saw it while watching the game.
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Like when that happened so quick
early.
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You could see he was.
He was thrown off his back foot.
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He short armed a few.
He created the errant throws and
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the lane should have had a pick
6.
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Oh yeah.
Dodge That ball was right there.
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I.
Don't like those hands?
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Yeah, right.
But we eventually get one.
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But as as we were talking about
last week and probably Pete, you
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talking about as well, it's like
we do this, it's he's gonna
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force it.
He's already he's kind of a
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turnover machine, which, yeah.
You know, do you remember the
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Maryland game?
I know it was a little while
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ago.
He threw 3 picks on three
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straight throws.
And they were winning that game
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when all that was happening,
right?
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They had a chance.
I mean, the kid, he's shown an
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ability to make plays and be
dynamic in the past game and
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whatnot, and we really made him,
for that first half look God
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awful.
Yeah, yeah, the kid has moxie.
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Whatever you want to call it,
but like.
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He's still, he's still a true
freshman quarterback and he
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looks the part a lot of times.
And we made him look every bit
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of true freshman quarterback for
that first half.
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Yeah.
Now, now something, Brian, you
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mentioned a few minutes ago and
we all saw it and it's always
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it.
It's the worry part.
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It was our rush defense because
we've seen we've sprung leaks at
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times this year.
We come off the game versus NC
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State where Armstrong has some
really good runs and we don't
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control that and Calandry does
have a little wiggle to him,
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but.
You know, at the end of the day,
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43 yards net, 29 rushes, like
they couldn't run the ball and
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and that's that made me
alleviate because when I saw
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them like early, like they can't
find holes because you know, I
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hate to say this, we're five and
six each year and every game we
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lost.
We always had a big run, strong.
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I mean, that lost the Marshall
game, that helped swing the
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Rutgers game.
The Purdue game as well and it's
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like you're sitting here and and
it's just the type of fans I
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know we all are.
It's just like, oh God, they're
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just like they're going to get
like a 45 yard run.
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Well, you know what?
Early in the game, what?
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You know, when I was texting,
y'all, I'm like, we're going to
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win.
There ain't nothing to worry
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about.
You know how Shelton is.
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He's looking at our analytics
all week.
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No, they don't.
They're not good here.
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We're good here.
So he's doing that.
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But I'm just like, I'm looking
at this and they're not going to
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win.
Like we're going to beat them
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and we're going, we're going.
I mean, when did you guys, when
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did you guys feel that?
Though that's what I was going
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to tell you so during the game.
When Pollock tackled, I think
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his pace from their team and he
kind of twisted his ankle up and
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he had to had to go in the
locker room for a minute.
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Just the way that he made the
tackle.
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I didn't want anybody to get
hurt but we have been so bad at
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not wrapping up or not game
tackling or not making sure
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tackles.
When he tackled him in the
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backfield and it was like just
a.
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A good back, good tackle for
loss.
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I was like OK, they're ready to
play.
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So from then on I was like
they're not going to run the
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ball we're we're and that was
early in the game that may have
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been first quarter, was that the
one where Hollins got his leg
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rolled up like was it?
Hollins that got rolled up.
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That's it was, yeah, yeah, yeah,
it was Hollins.
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And I think it might have been
hollered that that took him
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down.
But yes, I I remembered that and
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I was like, OK, that was that
was the game.
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We did look like he got twisted.
Yeah, because you got so many of
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of games that we go back to.
That guy doesn't make that
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tackle and that run goes for 20
yards.
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So that run goes for 15 yards or
goes for a first down and
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extend.
When he made that tackle in the
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backfield and just how he made
that tackle, I was like, yeah,
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it's going to be a rough day for
them.
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Yeah, I I hate to see a kid get
hurt.
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I didn't want him to get rolled
up on.
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I think I was, you know, I think
he came back in the game, so
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that's good.
But when we made that tackle I'm
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like, yeah, it's it's over.
Y'all, might as well just go
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ahead and get your Pinatas out.
You were.
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You were earlier than me because
I needed the Gosnell touchdown.
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As soon as we got that does that
10 point margin and that
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beautiful call that gave us a
ton of momentum.
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I was like I think we're good.
I I really, it felt like at that
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moment with the with the way the
crowd reacted and everything, I
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was like, I feel pretty good
right now, being up 10, nothing.
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Ziegler, if I recall.
Have we?
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Did we get up 10 nothing this
entire season and not ultimately
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blow out or win the game?
We got up and it would blow.
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Out or about 10.10 point
advantage.
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I don't, I don't think we had a
got to a 10 point advantage the
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whole season and didn't
ultimately win the game.
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So I mean that that was one
option.
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The the one that kind of stood
out to me from a defensive side
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was when they first threw that
that first like tunnel screen
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out to Malik Washington and we
had like 8 hats to the ball that
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that was, I was like, OK, we're
playing like we need to.
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I don't think they're going to
be able to do a whole lot
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offensively, and I thought we
were going to have have enough
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juice.
I didn't know we were going to
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score 55 points, but I thought
we were going to have enough
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juice to to to put that one away
at that point.
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Yeah, that was reminiscent of
the Wake Forest game and the
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Syracuse game, that gang
tackling that swarming.
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We saw that in those two games.
We we didn't really need it as
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much in the BC game because BC
just like really played awful
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and called a terrible game.
But, but in the weight game and
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the Syracuse game, you saw that
gang tackling and having hats
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near the football and it was
there on on Saturday.
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I'm with Pete.
Pete, it was the guys now
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touchdown A because of where we
were in the ballsy call and if
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you saw that play develop.
We were getting the first down
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regardless if he had handed it
to two and we were getting the
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first.
If Kyron decides to run as he's
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rolling out, we're getting the
first.
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But instead they suck everybody
in and he just got just ran
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right under and it was just
gone.
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But, but you see him going to
that play and it's like the
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nerves are on that play.
Like if we don't get this, I
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feel OK because they have done
nothing offensively.
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They got the ball to Washington
to try to get a first down and
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they could not get it.
But I'm with you Pete.
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That touchdown was it like?
It was just like.
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They're not going to be able to
score more than two times in a
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row to get back in this game.
Speaking of Washington, if you
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look at his game stats, Oh my
God, he killed us.
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If you would have told me, just
look at the game stats, I would
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have been like they won this
game 14 for 1:15.
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Oh my God.
But then you actually look at
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the real stats first half.
Y'all do y'all know what he did
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in the first half?
It wasn't that.
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It wasn't 100. 50 right under 35
or 26 is all he had in the first
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half.
So he Pats at it like crazy.
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We'll get to, you know why,
where he should have been.
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But if you told me he went for
1:15, if I was sitting here and
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y'all were a little bit drunk,
y'all didn't know what was
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happening in the game,
Washington's going to have 115
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yards.
Y'all be like.
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Yeah, that's not good.
Probably not good for us.
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Probably not a good day
especially when you you know
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think well if he's got 100 and
you know 15 yards that means
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Fields probably has at least 80
or 90 and you know, but I mean
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that that's why when you look at
look at the game it's it's a
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different story though.
I mean they really didn't do
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anything offensively until like
late the third quarter.
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I mean, I.
Mean he caught some.
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Even then, at that point, it's
like the game was out of.
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Reach he caught some passes on
somebody #27 I think he.
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I don't know.
I think he was in the stands at
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the beginning of the game, No
disrespect.
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I think his last name is
Childers or something like that.
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He's a white DB.
How many white DBS?
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You know, that's good.
Like he caught some passes on
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him.
So I don't know how many yards
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he caught on him.
I'll go back and look.
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But by the time they start
trying to pass that, I mean we
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had some stat pad, we had some
third stringers and I mean it
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was four boys in.
You know that it was 38 to
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three.
You're gonna you're gonna ease
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your foot off the gas a little
bit on defense.
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I kind of wish we hadn't I kind
of wish we had won 55 to 3:00.
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But it's it's OK.
I also, I mean, after they
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kicked that field goal, there
was there was a party
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apparently.
About the light.
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Show.
Yeah, man, the light show came
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on, man.
Light show and fireworks and
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fireworks.
That's just absolutely
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ridiculous.
Yeah, that's that's one you
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gotta somebody, somebody in the
booths got to check out of that.
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That's what he called audible.
You can't.
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You can't be doing that, man.
And I'm going to call an audible
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because it's a set up right to
what we talked about.
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We're talking about all three
phases of the game.
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Let's talk about the special
teams, because after that
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happens, they do the fireworks,
they celebrate their field goal,
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which you don't look for a field
goal down 31 to nothing.
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You can go for the touchdown,
tune, runs that ball back.
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And again, it was Brian you.
It kept it.
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It was.
This did feel like an old school
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Virginia Tech game because we
were hitting hard.
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And then all of a sudden, he
found that crease and found the
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sideline and just turned.
That patience, man.
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God.
He waited for everything to set
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up, hit the hole, broke a tackle
up the sideline.
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Yeah, that kind of felt like,
I'm sorry.
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Brian, no, you go ahead.
Go ahead.
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No, it just felt like a a
perfect way for Tootin's regular
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season to culminate.
Because he has had such a
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fantastic season and to see all
of the phases of his game, his
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burst, his patience and just
like the way he is such a
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playmaker all in one play for a
touchdown to basically put the
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game out of reach, although it
was already out of reach, that
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was amazing.
Don't forget, he went up in the
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He went up in the stands and had
the beer.
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Yeah, he did he.
Found it too.
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So definitely was a great time.
Well, but it just showed you
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like that.
Like that was joy right there.
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Like you know, most of those
guys when they get near the end
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of an end zone, they don't think
about it.
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It's find your teammates,
celebrate.
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He saw the plethora and it was a
plethora of Virginia Tech fans
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there and he went to them and
you can see the look on his face
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when he come off.
Like I shouldn't have did that.
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But it felt so good to to do
that.
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Couple other things on special
teams.
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John Love two for 2 from 40 plus
by the.
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Way dude.
He's been.
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He's been money this year.
He has been.
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Money.
He's been money this year, man.
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And if you look at him kick
those balls, those balls went
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through midway up that that's 50
yard plus.
490
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,520
Shut up John Love on that.
And then how about Donta Lovett
491
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,720
being Johnny on the spot when
they fumble that ball?
492
00:24:47,360 --> 00:24:50,560
Like right there and I know.
How about Lovett?
493
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,160
His mom would love to hit.
Somebody on the sideline and
494
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,000
murdering them.
You think that kid ain't ready
495
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,960
to get in there and play?
Yes.
496
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,360
Golly.
Yeah, he's ready, man.
497
00:25:01,360 --> 00:25:04,120
He's ready.
And I mean special teams overall
498
00:25:04,120 --> 00:25:06,040
be just solid solid across the
board.
499
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,080
I mean I think late late the
game we had that that one muff
500
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,760
that kind of is what it is but
no harm no foul there.
501
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,120
But overall we were just a
really good game from special
502
00:25:18,120 --> 00:25:23,440
teams especially love seeing him
you know knocking those those
503
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:24,760
deep ones back.
I'm like wow.
504
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,920
OK, so we we we've got some
range here.
505
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,920
We've got a guy that if we can
get it, you know, around the 30
506
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,480
yard line, we got a guy that can
make those kick kicks pretty
507
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,840
consistently.
That's a big time asset to have.
508
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,400
Well, that's a win.
That's that that they play deep
509
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,840
defense is play different.
If you have a guy that's that
510
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,640
consistent because it's like,
OK, listen, we've got to attack
511
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,960
because they're going to get
three points.
512
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,360
When you're ahead of the game,
it's even more like, you know,
513
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,280
we were ahead, you know, big on
this one.
514
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,760
But you get into a tight game
and it's like you go up 20 to 17
515
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,360
and it's like, OK, you know
what?
516
00:25:58,360 --> 00:26:00,880
There's a 25.
If we don't attack and get a 10
517
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,600
yard loss here, he's going to
pipe this one right down the
518
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:04,960
middle.
It's not going to be a problem.
519
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,600
And now we're going to have to
go score a touchdown to be tied
520
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,760
in this game.
All right, I'm going to flip it
521
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,040
now.
I'm going to go to the offensive
522
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,880
side of the ball.
Yeah, when you're just Willy
523
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:14,920
nilly.
Exactly.
524
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,320
Shout out Andrew there, but
let's talk about the offensive
525
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,720
inside of the ball.
And I can't remember who
526
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,080
mentioned it, but Tyler Bone was
in his bag on Saturday.
527
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:29,600
Yeah, I I had said that.
And you know, I've given and I
528
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,320
think everyone gave Tyler a lot
of crap last year.
529
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,160
I thought this year it was going
to be tough to bring him back
530
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,160
unless you brought in a Co OC.
We didn't do that.
531
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,600
We actually promoted him to
quarterback coach and the
532
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,680
offense looked pretty much the
same and pretty much just as
533
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,200
anemic through the first three
to four games.
534
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,480
But lo and behold, they switch
up the offense.
535
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,200
And we saw some more creative
playmaking and I wasn't sure
536
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:57,240
earlier in the year who to give
credit to because there's been a
537
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:01,120
lot of talk about Brent Davis
and his contributions to the RPO
538
00:27:01,120 --> 00:27:04,080
game and more of the option
looks that we do because he was
539
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,440
from Army.
But I think we know that the
540
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,800
play caller for the games is
Tyler Bone.
541
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,920
We know that we've been able to
schedule some nice play calls at
542
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,440
the beginning of games.
Well, this one was a master
543
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,000
class because the way
everything's set up.
544
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,640
Like if we don't have that
penalty on 3rd and one if you
545
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,600
want to talk about things we
could have done better.
546
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,360
Again, we had a penalty on a
third and one that backed us up.
547
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,320
We might have scored a touchdown
on that first drive.
548
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,720
You know things things kind of
changed after that.
549
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:35,440
But he was, he was absolutely in
his bag, he absolutely was.
550
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,280
And that the Gosnell one was
really beautiful.
551
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,080
But there were so many things
that he did in that first and
552
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:42,960
second quarter that set things
up for later.
553
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,080
Yeah.
And what I liked is that, yeah,
554
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,400
we had the big plays, but we
also had a lot of.
555
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:52,200
Just really good drives that
culminated in scores that
556
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,600
culminated in points.
And so, I mean, it was really
557
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,840
there wasn't anything that they
were throwing at us that that he
558
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:03,720
wasn't ready to have something
to counter or in most cases
559
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,360
being on the attack and taking
the game to the defense and
560
00:28:07,360 --> 00:28:11,520
making them have to adjust.
He really kept them off balance
561
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,760
the whole game.
And and the nice thing was like
562
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,160
this, we knew this wasn't a
ferocious front seven.
563
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,360
I mean there's there's a
linebacker or two that are all
564
00:28:20,360 --> 00:28:23,760
right, but they're D line,
despite bringing a bunch of guys
565
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,440
back, has been a sore spot for
them all year.
566
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,600
And it was when I was looking at
it, and I see that they're 117th
567
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,760
in yards per rush allowed going
into this thing, I was like, I
568
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,400
think we know what we can do in
this game.
569
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,000
And we did it well, and we did.
And we were able to hit them
570
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,960
with some different things.
You know, the thing that I like
571
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,160
the most you were talking about,
you know the the front seven
572
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,200
there, we, we attacked them
early and often.
573
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:53,320
They really had to keep Sanker
in the box most of the game to
574
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,640
stop that.
And I think that's what opened
575
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,280
up some of the deep stuff that
that kept him in a spot where he
576
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,840
was having to kind of play in,
in a conflict situation whether
577
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,120
I'm going to support the run,
support the pass.
578
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,880
So it really kept them off
balance and didn't let let
579
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,000
Sanker kind of.
Yeah, he he was still out there.
580
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,680
He was a tackling machine but he
was in a spot where he was in
581
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,160
conflict the whole game.
He got dragged into the end
582
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,080
zone.
He did get dragged into, he did
583
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,840
get dragged into the end zone.
Felton did that to him and that
584
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,680
was that 84 yarder and and again
I think it's Shelton is a big
585
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,400
explosive play guy.
P If if you don't know Shelton,
586
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,640
I know.
I follow your guys stuff.
587
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,280
I God, he he follows it so
close.
588
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:38,520
But on Saturday, I mean, we
think about it, that's 35 points
589
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,680
or it's 28 points between the
Gosdale 44 yarder.
590
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,360
Then you got the Holloway on
that little fake trick.
591
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,880
By the way, they studied that
XTB play last week so hard that
592
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,800
when they act like they were
running to him, the whole
593
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,920
defense went to him and Tucker
just had a lane.
594
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,440
It was just like Kyron got to
stand in and try to act like he
595
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:57,160
was blocking.
He.
596
00:29:58,360 --> 00:29:59,680
Just skipping.
He was skipping.
597
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,720
He was a little shuffle, little
shuffle, just getting loose.
598
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,120
I'm so happy for Tucker, for
that, that touchdown, man.
599
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,680
Wearing the 25 and everything
like that was that was very
600
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:10,720
cool.
And you're right, man.
601
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,120
They they thought they read it.
But they read it wrong.
602
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:18,080
They read it completely wrong.
But it's it's having those guys
603
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:23,000
like that and that is what what
has been missing for years at
604
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:27,280
Virginia Tech is having the
multiple explosive guys.
605
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:32,440
And and we saw how well that
this staff recruited in the
606
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:36,360
portal last year with Tootin,
with Felton, with Jalen Lang,
607
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:40,040
where all those guys that at any
point in time they can pop a big
608
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,600
one on you.
And that changes the dynamic of
609
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,440
a team.
You don't have to plot every
610
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,680
time.
There is not enough teams in
611
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:51,200
this country good enough to take
it and go 10 plays, 75 yards
612
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:55,000
every single time.
With eight yard, 12 yard plays,
613
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:59,000
you have to hit home runs.
And and not every You can't.
614
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,320
You can't be late to late, late
2000s Wisconsin.
615
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:03,280
Every.
Damn.
616
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:07,120
Time, especially not us.
No, no, we ain't got the.
617
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,040
We ain't got the Joe's to do
that.
618
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:10,960
All right, Well, y'all.
What did y'all think about
619
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:15,840
Kyron's performance?
I mean, my guy, he's my guy,
620
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,560
man.
I mean he, he does what he's
621
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,760
supposed to do.
I think you mentioned it
622
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,880
earlier.
You know, I got between a couple
623
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:27,280
of different chats and you know,
groups and things like that.
624
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,840
Somebody said on one of his runs
where he had opportunity to go
625
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,960
out of bounce.
And somebody said, man, he needs
626
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,600
to get out.
You know, he doesn't need to.
627
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,440
He didn't need to try to run
people over.
628
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,440
He doesn't need.
That's how he plays.
629
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,040
He's been playing like this.
You know what I'm saying?
630
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,520
Like as a football player, you
can't think this is the play.
631
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,240
I'm going to get hurt.
You know what I'm saying?
632
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,320
I just don't think that's in his
DNA.
633
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,200
You know what?
I'm I'm not in his head, but I'm
634
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,200
watching him play.
He knows when he needs to get
635
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:56,480
down.
He knows when he needs to get
636
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,080
out of bounds.
But like sometimes, man, that
637
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,400
mentality that he brings to the
offense, it's just.
638
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,360
You can't really put it on
paper.
639
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,840
You know what I mean?
You can't really say this is a
640
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,680
stat, but it'll be a run because
you know in every game you can
641
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,040
go to a run where he just wants
to punish the defense.
642
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,520
And I'm sure he walks back to
the to the huddle and say, did
643
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:17,960
you see what I did to these
motherfuckers?
644
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,520
Like, they ain't.
They don't want to smoke for
645
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,960
real.
They ain't you when you got your
646
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,000
quarterback that has that kind
of confidence.
647
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,600
It exudes through your whole
offense, even when you a fucking
648
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,840
sucky offensive lineman, when
you got a quarterback behind you
649
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,160
that's talking like that and
then he has that kind of
650
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,480
confidence.
It does give you a little bit of
651
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:40,240
Nope.
It lost you there, Tally.
652
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,440
Yeah.
Well, Brian, you got something
653
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,200
on this.
Yeah, I was just going to say
654
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:48,320
like, he's smart with it too.
The way he attacks, when he,
655
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,680
when he decides whether he's
going to run through a guy or
656
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,480
not, man, Because you see it
and.
657
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,160
When he does that, he's he knows
that he has the leverage.
658
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,880
So he he's the guy that's
bringing the impact.
659
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,080
He's not meeting a guy that's
coming at him full speed.
660
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,080
He's meeting the guy that's
standing there broke down and
661
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,840
he's going to run through him
and I think so.
662
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,760
So it's very selective with how
he does that, but it definitely
663
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:17,320
is a a way to have that mental
edge against the defense when
664
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,480
you do it like that.
And there's if there's ever a
665
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,640
game to send a message and not
go out of bounds.
666
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,160
It's the last game of the year
against your rival.
667
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:26,920
Let it.
Let it all hang out, man.
668
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,080
Like, unless you're going to
knock yourself out of the game,
669
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,640
Logan Thomas style.
Getting getting a concussion
670
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,960
against UCLA.
Like, yeah, send a message
671
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,320
because it's the last game of
the year.
672
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,360
Run yourself into the ground
because you ain't playing for
673
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,240
three weeks.
You might not play again if you
674
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:41,960
don't win the game.
So I loved it.
675
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,640
I thought Carmen played a great
game.
676
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,800
I don't care that his percentage
was what, under 59?
677
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:52,760
Yeah, because. 30% of his
completions went for touchdowns
678
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,720
and he made the throws he
absolutely needed to make and
679
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,680
they were perfect.
The the throw to Lane that
680
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,960
didn't count was perfect.
The throw.
681
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,800
The throw to Felton that did
count was perfect.
682
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:10,120
The Gosnell throw was perfect.
Like 244 yards on 10 completions
683
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,960
like that is absolutely
ridiculous.
684
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,719
I know the 84 yarder helps, but
he had 50 yards rushing too, so
685
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,520
we're talking about.
Around 300 yards from that guy
686
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:25,040
on basically 7 plays that that
did something, that's that's
687
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,840
incredible production.
He's a gamer, man.
688
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,679
He's a gamer.
He is a gamer and it's.
689
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,320
And by the way, I don't know if
y'all mention this.
690
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,080
Sorry I had to step offline
there for a moment.
691
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,800
No UV as quarterback did not
outplay him.
692
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,199
No.
If you want, let's just look at
693
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,159
QBR really quick.
Oh yeah, well he threw for just
694
00:34:41,159 --> 00:34:43,560
as many yards and almost as many
touchdowns.
695
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:49,800
QBR was 73.2 for Kyron and 21.7
for Anthony Colundry.
696
00:34:50,199 --> 00:34:52,320
Yeah, he didn't.
Watchers telling us who played
697
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,400
better in this game or something
like, did you watch the game?
698
00:34:54,679 --> 00:34:55,840
No, they didn't.
They didn't.
699
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:57,760
They just wanted to try to talk
their boy up.
700
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,120
Yeah, it's it's always fun when
people look at stats and then
701
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,360
like, Oh well, the stats
actually say that he had a
702
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,680
better game too.
Like, what do you did you watch
703
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,120
the game?
Did You're not even looking,
704
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,520
You're not even looking at stats
correctly?
705
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,560
Yeah, exactly.
All right.
706
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,960
Another couple quick things to
play.
707
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:19,920
Run game was awesome Tooting 7 +
a carry on top of that 94 touch
708
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:28,320
94 kickoff return touchdown and
then and you know the run game
709
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,720
just again why I feel like I'm
reminiscing.
710
00:35:30,720 --> 00:35:37,800
Again we had a run game all year
like all year 252 Saturday.
711
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:43,280
So if we even just let's just
throw out the 117 and the the 50
712
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,080
from Kyron.
We had other guys getting close
713
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:50,560
to 100 yards in numerous and
various ways and again, it just
714
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,960
when you go almost 7 to KF feels
awesome.
715
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:57,320
Yeah, yeah, that's a team.
It was like 6.8, correct?
716
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,560
I mean, 6.8, we were able to
just push them around.
717
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:05,080
And you're right, Curtis, I
think about the Purdue game and
718
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:09,240
the Marshall game in particular
all year because they were so
719
00:36:09,240 --> 00:36:11,680
winnable.
And if we had had this offense
720
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,120
from the beginning with Kyron,
what could have been?
721
00:36:14,720 --> 00:36:17,960
At the same time, we're not
going to a New Year 6 either way
722
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,240
and we would have been in a bowl
either way.
723
00:36:20,240 --> 00:36:23,520
So it's kind of all right, but
I'm glad that we got to this
724
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:24,880
point.
I wish I had started a little
725
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,440
earlier, but it was a thing of
beauty for the wins that we had.
726
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,800
The run game was working
perfectly that in the
727
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,800
second-half of the year like for
the offensive line that's in
728
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,840
front of these guys and and God,
God bless these these kids that
729
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:42,000
play a line, but it's not the
best unit and we know that.
730
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:49,680
We made the most of it in in
these ACC wins, 1000% and and
731
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,320
for the offensive line you
mentioned earlier, Pete, you
732
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,480
know I'm trying to get Brown on
here but he had a step off like
733
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:58,080
I did.
But that was, in my opinion,
734
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,160
that was the best game they
played all year in every aspect.
735
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:05,120
Run game, pass blocking.
They gave up no sack and it just
736
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,080
like you said, Pete, we were
physical up front.
737
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,200
It like got mentally into their
heads.
738
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:14,160
Go get these guys, grab them and
push them out of the way.
739
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,200
Yeah, it was.
It was good to see you this kind
740
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,720
of what Internet was going in
and out there for a minute.
741
00:37:21,720 --> 00:37:24,600
But I think I would have heard
Pete talking about was when you
742
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:29,080
look back at something like the
even the ODU game, I think we
743
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:33,120
had 100 yards rushing as a team.
You know, you look at the Purdue
744
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,960
game, we had like 30 yards
rushing at 18.
745
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,440
No, we had, we had like we had
like 12 railroad.
746
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,560
It was like 11 or 12, Yeah, 1111
I.
747
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,400
Mean and you think about those
teams now at the end of the
748
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,840
year, it's like Purdue is not a
great.
749
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,560
They're not a good team.
They finished last and you look
750
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:52,280
at the.
Worst.
751
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:53,720
Division and you.
Yeah.
752
00:37:53,720 --> 00:37:55,560
And you.
And then you look at it too.
753
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,960
And then you look at what he
brings to the to the field and
754
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,680
you're like, what were we
thinking?
755
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,000
What were we doing?
You know, and it's just what I
756
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,920
don't want to put so much on on
on Kyron's shoulders, but it's
757
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,480
just little things that he does
like his footwork.
758
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:13,160
I never seen us run the play
where he where he, like Cupid,
759
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,560
shuffles to the sideline and
tosses it and we get in two and
760
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,080
gets on the edge.
Every time we run that play he's
761
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,520
get like 10 yards, you know,
every now and then instead of
762
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,440
Kyron tossing it, he'll just
hold it and then he goes for
763
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,520
1012 yards.
It's, it's.
764
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,040
More than his.
Physical ability.
765
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,440
It's more than the way he plays,
it's more than the way he runs.
766
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,200
It's the belief that he can get
us a win.
767
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,800
I I honestly believe that when
we started hooker in that 2019
768
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:43,160
year and we will make the
comparison one last time, the
769
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,720
team didn't all the sudden get
way better.
770
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,760
Like the the entire team started
playing better because they
771
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,880
believed they had a guy who
could win.
772
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:55,360
And that is really what happened
to this team post Marshall.
773
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,720
Is they're like, you know what,
I think this this guy might have
774
00:38:58,720 --> 00:39:01,120
it and they all play harder
because they think they had a
775
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,560
chance.
Like, there's been so many
776
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,440
examples of this in sports, but
I'll give you 1 real quick.
777
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,640
Steve Carlton back in the day
for the Phillies awful year, he
778
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,680
won 20 games because every time
he pitched the team thought they
779
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,520
could win.
They might have won 60 games the
780
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,800
entire season, but twenty of
them were one Carlton pitch.
781
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:19,840
That's what Kyron gives us.
That's.
782
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,720
Crazy Ryan.
We were talking about the
783
00:39:23,720 --> 00:39:27,560
offensive line here and from our
perspective and again, it's my
784
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,240
unknowing eye.
Tally's kind of knowing eye
785
00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:32,520
because he played in tight end.
He knew things that have to be
786
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,920
best offensive line performance.
All year, Yeah, definitely the
787
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,280
best all year.
I mean, especially when you look
788
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,520
at relatively competition, it's
kind of hard to, you know, make
789
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,440
that judgement, you know, across
the board there.
790
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:48,720
But in terms of just raw output,
yeah, that was that was the best
791
00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:51,800
they played all year.
There really wasn't any.
792
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,280
Presence of that team in the
backfield.
793
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,120
We were consistently moving guys
off the ball.
794
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,800
The run game was working,
whether it was going to Tuden,
795
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,400
you know a few carries there for
for Thomas.
796
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,920
We had you know obviously drones
got involved in the running game
797
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,280
there as well.
So we were really kind of doing
798
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,320
whatever we wanted to for for
most of the game.
799
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,600
You know, I don't think they
really had a tackle for loss
800
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,040
until like the late third
quarter or something like that.
801
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,080
So it was it was a really
impressive performance.
802
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:27,240
Like I said, when you look at
the overall picture that that
803
00:40:27,240 --> 00:40:31,400
wasn't a very good front seven.
If if if Sanker wasn't in the
804
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,920
box, we could have really gutted
that team, he.
805
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,680
Was all they had.
Man, that guy.
806
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,520
And the key is good.
Robinson, him and Sanker and
807
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,480
Robinson are not going to be
there all four years.
808
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,040
They're not.
And Sanker.
809
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,240
'S a very good player.
Let's see if we can get the Cam
810
00:40:48,240 --> 00:40:51,920
Robinson to come.
Yeah, up 64, a little bit down
811
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,040
81.
Where he should have been to
812
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:56,360
begin with.
All right, real quick.
813
00:40:56,360 --> 00:41:00,040
I'm going to start with Pete.
Pete, in your eyes, both sides
814
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,160
of the ball, what went bad in
your eyes?
815
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,640
I did mention the false start in
the third and one first first
816
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,920
drive, and that happened against
BC happened in this game both
817
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:10,480
games.
We ended up romping later on
818
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,880
because we showed an ability to
move the ball Despite that
819
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,200
penalty.
Again, I'd say third down.
820
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,080
It wasn't as big of a deal in
this game because we were able
821
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,080
to just get on top of them and
whatever.
822
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:22,760
Third down has been a problem
all year.
823
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,760
It wasn't a great percentage in
this game either.
824
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:29,440
I think we were 6 or 15 or maybe
whatever it was below 50% I
825
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,720
believe, so that could be
better.
826
00:41:32,240 --> 00:41:34,880
I'm not going to rag on the red
zone because we scored so many
827
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,560
touchdowns from far away and I
don't want to take any anyone
828
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,280
else's.
What do you guys got in terms of
829
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:45,800
the what we could do better.
You know, I I think we probably
830
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,360
got a little out of hand with
the roughing the passer there,
831
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,680
especially on you know one or
two drives in a row.
832
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:55,640
But I I think like I said, it
was a good tone setter like
833
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,520
because I feel like from then on
out like they they really knew
834
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,040
that.
All right it's not our day.
835
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,640
It's not our day but you know at
some point you don't want to
836
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,760
hurt yourself.
Really got them into field goal
837
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,000
range.
Thankfully a bad play by them
838
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,320
and a very good play by our
defense got them back out of
839
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,120
field goal range, so.
Yep.
840
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,080
What about you, Tally?
I mean, the only thing you
841
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:17,560
really can point to is
penalties.
842
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,440
You know, I think we had over
100 yards in penalty.
843
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:24,720
So between jumping offsides or
hitting the, hitting the
844
00:42:24,720 --> 00:42:29,000
quarterback late or celebrating
with the fans, all that stuff's
845
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,240
great because you're winning 55
to 17.
846
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,920
But as a whole, you know what I
mean?
847
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,840
Like if you just want to say
what went bad like.
848
00:42:37,240 --> 00:42:38,600
We don't need 100 yards in
penalties.
849
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,280
We know a lot of times when we
play, teams especially like
850
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,120
going into a bowl game, not
knowing who we play.
851
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:44,720
We don't need to get that many
penalties.
852
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,000
Did any of you guys mention the
fumble?
853
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,640
I was getting ready to say it.
Yeah, that's sorry.
854
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:54,240
Goal line again, it's something
we have not seen Kyron do a lot
855
00:42:54,240 --> 00:42:56,880
this year other than like the
first game with Rutgers.
856
00:42:57,240 --> 00:43:01,200
But I mean we we look at him
like this could have been 60 and
857
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,600
if we didn't take our foot off
the gas pedal it might have been
858
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:08,320
70 and like.
And and again but and sometimes
859
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,200
you in a game like this, you
hope stuff like that happens
860
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,640
because I think someone like
Iron Drones watch the next time
861
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,040
he runs down at the goal line.
I guarantee you that thing will
862
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,400
be extra secure because all year
we've seen him, if you've made
863
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:24,040
mistakes, the next time you're
like, you know what he's cleaned
864
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:27,000
that up a little bit like, it's
like he sees it.
865
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,000
I'm not going to do that again.
That hurts my team and I love
866
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:31,800
seeing that.
All righty.
867
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,680
So I'm going to let Pete.
This is our this is the fun one.
868
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,840
Pete, did anything happen you
were completely not prepared
869
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:44,920
for?
You know, I wasn't I wasn't
870
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:49,160
prepared for A50 Burger.
I honestly wasn't like I I did
871
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:53,680
not think we haven't blown out
UVA since 2016.
872
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,840
Before that it was basically
since 2011.
873
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:01,360
So I was, I was just not
prepared for for the I was
874
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,680
expecting and I said it on our
podcast.
875
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,200
A three and a half hour stomach
ache.
876
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:10,240
I was expecting to be stressed
out the whole time and so that's
877
00:44:10,240 --> 00:44:11,800
what I wasn't prepared.
Prepared for.
878
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:16,600
Just like UVA not showing up and
us absolutely being ready for
879
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,720
the moment.
Siegel, I think you've got
880
00:44:19,720 --> 00:44:21,520
something similar, right?
Yeah.
881
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,360
I mean, I was not expecting to
shellac their ass for four
882
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,000
quarters.
I was expecting.
883
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,200
I picked us to win.
Was it 30 to 20?
884
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,320
I think it's what I said.
So, I mean, I was expecting us
885
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:36,480
to have it in hand, but it was
going to be something where I
886
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:37,920
was kind of sweating the whole
way.
887
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,120
I did not expect us to go out
there and beat them 5517.
888
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:47,360
I didn't expect the type of tone
setting on both sides of the
889
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,640
ball that we saw.
I didn't expect them to
890
00:44:49,720 --> 00:44:52,120
completely shit in their shoes
like they did.
891
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,520
So you know, not not even shit
the pants.
892
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,160
If you're shitting in your
shoes, that's a fucking.
893
00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:58,520
Thing.
Talent.
894
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:03,560
What about you?
Because that was a good one.
895
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,160
Pretty good.
Yeah, I I wasn't expecting.
896
00:45:06,720 --> 00:45:08,120
I mean, why don't you not tell
him?
897
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:11,600
I knew he had some speed and I
knew he had some talent, but I
898
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,120
didn't expect.
I watched UVA play a couple of
899
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,040
times this year and they looked
competent against some teams.
900
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,280
Even in some losses, they've
lost a lot of close games,
901
00:45:20,240 --> 00:45:21,480
mainly because they're a young
team.
902
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,200
I didn't.
I didn't expect us to look like.
903
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:29,320
So overpowering and so fast.
Like when you have a, when you
904
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:33,440
have a your running back that
runs a a kickoff back and he
905
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:37,240
starts celebrating and throttles
down at the 30 yard line like
906
00:45:37,240 --> 00:45:42,600
you are faster than that team.
You know 84 yard, 84 yard
907
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:46,200
touchdown with with Felton who
is 65.
908
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,280
I don't even know how much he
weighs.
909
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:52,840
Like he's he he catches the ball
kind of in traffic and just
910
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:56,480
pulls away.
You know it it is crazy to me to
911
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,800
see how much faster we were than
them.
912
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,920
And I think, I don't think like
on paper with that much faster
913
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,440
than them.
I just think that they didn't.
914
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,400
They didn't have a will to win
like it was gone.
915
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,160
I I totally agree, man.
You think about those 3 plays
916
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,320
that you mentioned in every
single one and you actually you
917
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,760
didn't mention the lane.
Call you back.
918
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,200
I mean, he had two or three guys
in front of him.
919
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:21,640
And split right through Felton,
same thing.
920
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:26,440
And Tootin had some blockers but
still like we looked so much
921
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,840
more athletic and faster than
them and that without, you're
922
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,160
right I wasn't totally prepared
for that because since they're
923
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:37,480
bye week UVA has played very,
very well and knocked off UNC.
924
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,160
They almost knocked off
Louisville.
925
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,160
They they played a really tough
game to overtime with Miami.
926
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:46,640
So they beat Duke exactly as
Robert has pointed out, like.
927
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,840
I there was a lot of things in
that regard and it's similar to
928
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:52,960
what me and Brian said that we
just didn't expect.
929
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,520
I'm going to tell you what I
what I didn't expect, y'all is
930
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,320
and it's on the off defensive
line what they did.
931
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,960
I can see that happening.
I didn't expect the offensive
932
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:03,960
line to play the way they did
the off.
933
00:47:04,240 --> 00:47:06,760
But Brian you've been Brian's
been saying the last couple
934
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,760
weeks and some games like that
things are clicking they they
935
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,280
don't look as slow.
Yeah, false starts.
936
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:13,760
But Brian, you've kind of been
saying like?
937
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,080
Something's happening.
Something's happening with the
938
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:20,400
younger guys.
It's it's just slowly, it's a
939
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,560
slow ground.
You get a coach in March, that's
940
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,120
the way it's going to happen.
But I didn't expect us to
941
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,680
dominate the trenches.
If you say, hey, we had a good
942
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,760
game, we rushed for 200 yards.
We, you know, we we, we gave up
943
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,280
a couple sacks.
We played good.
944
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,480
No, we dominated.
We dominated.
945
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:42,400
And that's, you know, that's
when it goes, that's when it
946
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,760
goes to.
Mentality and I'm going to we
947
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:47,640
got a question here from Derek.
Yeah.
948
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:49,880
I'm on this question, man.
I'm.
949
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,120
Going to put this up and I'm
going to Pete because you're our
950
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:55,360
guest.
I'm going to let you go last so
951
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,400
you can think about it, Brian,
what's better, Ryan Williams
952
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,280
versus State, Felton against
FUVA.
953
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:02,440
You know what?
I got to go, Felton, just
954
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:06,440
because it was against UVA, man.
Tally.
955
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:11,000
I mean, it's hard to compare
those two because Ryan Williams
956
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,160
ran somebody over.
You know what I'm saying?
957
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,200
Like in the middle of the field
he he runs somebody over and
958
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:20,720
then you got and then you got
Felton drag somebody into the
959
00:48:20,720 --> 00:48:23,520
end zone and then hops up and
starts dumping on the other
960
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,600
player.
Like you know what I'm saying?
961
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,040
And then and then walks up to
him and starts talking junk and
962
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:29,360
the guy doesn't even turn
around.
963
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,760
So I it's hard, man.
It's hard to pick.
964
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:36,080
But I I'd have to go Felton.
I I you know, I'm going to say a
965
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,720
little sweetness, Ryan Williams
because.
966
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,200
The way he had Earl Wolfe
sliding on his butt like that
967
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,440
was so embarrassing.
That was the guy, right?
968
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,200
Earl Wolfe and he.
Took him right into the end
969
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,520
zone.
He was incredible.
970
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:52,800
To Tally's point, he ran him
over and then he grabbed the
971
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:54,240
jersey.
You usually see that at the
972
00:48:54,240 --> 00:48:55,800
like.
It was like it wasn't like the
973
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:57,680
three or four.
It was like at the 8.
974
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,280
And he grabbed him and pulled
him and Williams just.
975
00:49:01,720 --> 00:49:04,360
I'm I was born and raised in the
country it looked like a tractor
976
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,720
pull because Williams body went
up and it was just like no I'm
977
00:49:07,720 --> 00:49:09,960
going to just keep dragging you
until I get the touchdown.
978
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,120
So we're split on that but great
question there.
979
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:16,800
I we usually do this because we
have things to look forward to.
980
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:21,320
But I mean I'm, I'm going to
kind of put a retrospective on
981
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:26,840
this if if you told me, if you
told us after Marshall that we
982
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:30,120
would be making a bowl that the
only teams that we lost to.
983
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,160
Were a combined and I got to do
the record in my head real
984
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:39,000
quick.
What, 23 or 32 and six?
985
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,080
That's the only teams we lost to
Y'all.
986
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:46,360
They're combined 32 and five.
I do the math right?
987
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,400
No, hold on, you got you got a
game in there somewhere.
988
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,320
Yeah, odd number, so that that's
definitely not right.
989
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,120
We.
Lost two We lost zero.
990
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:57,680
Louisville's lost 2.
That's two.
991
00:49:57,720 --> 00:50:01,960
State lost 331 and five.
That's the only three teams.
992
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,840
We've lost two after Marshall.
Yeah, and you can say, well, you
993
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,240
played the bottom of the
conference, But you know what?
994
00:50:07,240 --> 00:50:09,120
Sheldon sent me this and y'all
seen it out there.
995
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,840
They're only like 7 teams that
beat 5 conference opponents by
996
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:14,480
17 plus points.
We're.
997
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:19,120
Wanting I was arguing with some
SEC fans early on Facebook and
998
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,800
they was telling me how bad the
the ACC sucks and things like
999
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:24,640
that.
They was telling me that Florida
1000
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,960
State wasn't getting in.
Over blah, blah, blah.
1001
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,280
And I was like, you do
understand if they go undefeated
1002
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,560
they're going to get in.
But this they have.
1003
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:35,000
I say Florida State has as much
money as these people that y'all
1004
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:39,480
are naming.
And on top of that go check the
1005
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:41,280
go check the stuff from this
year.
1006
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:46,280
The SEC against the ACC is ACC
is 6.
1007
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:50,760
The SEC is 4.
I think it's like, so you're
1008
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,160
telling me how bad the ACC
substitute that beating the
1009
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:57,560
mighty SEC.
No disrespect, LSU.
1010
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,400
Do they be week 13?
I argue.
1011
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,360
With them, I argue with them
every, like every time I go to
1012
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,480
the barbershop, we have the same
talk and maybe Florida without
1013
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,120
their starting quarterback man.
And let.
1014
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,240
Let's also talk about, since
we're talking about going
1015
00:51:11,240 --> 00:51:14,720
bowling, let's talk about the
ACC with the most bowl teams
1016
00:51:14,720 --> 00:51:15,000
this.
Year.
1017
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,440
I think we got 12 teams, right?
Of the P5, that is correct.
1018
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:22,600
We are 11 bowl teams.
Only the Sunbelt has more
1019
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:26,360
because.
JMU got in on on the on, on.
1020
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:28,160
The type of card, not.
Enough.
1021
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,040
Not enough teams eligible, but
the entire Eastern Division,
1022
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,640
including our first opponent
ODU, is bowl eligible.
1023
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,720
And is the only what is the only
teams not bowl eligible that we
1024
00:51:38,720 --> 00:51:40,920
played this year.
There's a couple.
1025
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,400
Three, Yeah.
The only team we lost to that's
1026
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,080
not bowl eligible is Perdue.
Yes.
1027
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,800
Yes, it's craziness.
Well, let's keep going and talk
1028
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,280
about a few other things because
I think we're going late this
1029
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,600
night, boys.
Let's talk about the All ACC.
1030
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,560
First of all, there are no
Hokies on the first team.
1031
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:03,360
I'm sure y'all all saw that and
who got OK Where's the bigger
1032
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:05,280
robbery?
And I'll start with Pete.
1033
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,880
Here is the bigger robbery.
Actually there's three.
1034
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:15,560
So APR being a second teamer,
defensive line basial to be a
1035
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:19,600
second teamer all-purpose, even
though he's 27th in the country,
1036
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,960
third in the conference, and
he's the only one with all the
1037
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,160
all-purpose yards.
Or is it Dorian Strong Thirteen?
1038
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,720
We saw Treadmill Horse put some
data out there.
1039
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,400
Other people put the PFF data
out there.
1040
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,040
Where's the bigger robbery?
I think APR is the biggest
1041
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:37,960
robbery and and the reason why
is because you can make the
1042
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:43,040
argument that people didn't
throw on us enough or at Dorian
1043
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:46,040
enough to warrant him getting on
first team.
1044
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:49,080
I might be able to buy this.
I think he should be first team,
1045
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,960
to be clear.
But I think APR, just by putting
1046
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:55,720
up 9 1/2 sacks and being at the
top of the conference on AD line
1047
00:52:55,720 --> 00:52:58,560
that was at the top of the
conference, he should have got
1048
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,960
recognized as first team.
I think that is BS especially.
1049
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,960
I know there's some, there's
some very good pass rushers in
1050
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,960
the ACC, NC State and FSU and
whatnot.
1051
00:53:08,240 --> 00:53:10,600
But you put up those kind of
numbers, you have some of the
1052
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,800
games that he had and all the
pressure that he brought.
1053
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:17,440
I feel like APR is the biggest
snub, but I'll let you guys make
1054
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,880
a case for anybody else.
Callie Who you got?
1055
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,360
Who's the biggest snub?
It's hard to pick, man.
1056
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,240
But you know, I I would have to
say APR as well.
1057
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,480
You know, the two thing kind of
kind of bothers me because you
1058
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,000
know, they got Keon Coleman on
that, which is the offseason.
1059
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,640
Great player, but they got him
on there like 3 different
1060
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:36,280
things.
You know what I'm saying?
1061
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,440
It's just like, oh, just 'cause
he's on Florida State, we're
1062
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,920
going, we're going to suck his
Dick and put him on, put him on
1063
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,560
this, this and this.
Like 3 different spots.
1064
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:46,000
Really.
You know what I'm saying?
1065
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,960
And like, I think he was on
there as a return and he had no
1066
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,400
touchdowns.
How do you get on this return?
1067
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:52,600
I don't think he had any
touchdowns.
1068
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:57,160
Tooting tied for the national
lead with two return touchdowns.
1069
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,600
I mean, I know, look, I know
it's the difference between 1:00
1070
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:02,080
and 2:00 or zero.
It's not very much.
1071
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:05,040
It is very much.
Those are very hard to score.
1072
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,640
That's very hard to score.
You know what I'm saying?
1073
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:10,320
They've changed things so you
can't score.
1074
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,720
They want people to Kick It Out
of the back of the end zone.
1075
00:54:12,720 --> 00:54:16,400
So when you get an opportunity
and you go score, you know, like
1076
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:17,760
that, That's a big
accomplishment.
1077
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:25,880
So.
He got, he got choked up, he got
1078
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:29,200
choked up, I got messed up.
Kind of like Robbie said with
1079
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,200
APR stats alone or just, you
know, So I think they should
1080
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:33,080
have got in first team.
Yep.
1081
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:35,280
He's AI mean.
He's a top ten.
1082
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:38,480
He's a top ten in the country,
sax top ten in the country.
1083
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,000
That's great.
Is that working on favor though,
1084
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,320
Curtis with him not getting that
first?
1085
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:44,680
Oh my.
God, yes.
1086
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:47,200
Yes.
I think it works in our favor.
1087
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,040
I think it works motivationally,
wise in our favor.
1088
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,520
I do not want to be the
quarterback, whoever we play in
1089
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:55,440
that bowl game.
Siegler, yours.
1090
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:58,640
Yeah, I'm going to have to go
with Dorian Strong here.
1091
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:02,440
When you think about shut down
corners and and and Pete brought
1092
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,560
this up, you know him not
getting that many targets.
1093
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:09,880
Part of being a very good corner
is not letting guys get open
1094
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:11,640
where you're going to throw the
ball their direction.
1095
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:18,120
So if you are locking up guys
like that and it's not just the
1096
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:21,400
target, so the targets are low,
sure, but the targets are are
1097
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,000
not significantly lower than the
two guys on first team.
1098
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:28,520
Look at the percentage, the the,
the, the catch percentage.
1099
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:30,840
It's crazy.
It's like 28%.
1100
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:36,440
It's insane.
And that was lower, lower, 4/4
1101
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,760
and 1/2 percentage points lower
than the one of the other first
1102
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:44,320
teamers.
And he had three interceptions,
1103
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,960
3 interceptions.
The other one of the others on
1104
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,880
first team had five.
I think the other one had I
1105
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:56,560
think one or two.
So interception wise, completion
1106
00:55:56,560 --> 00:56:00,400
percentage wise, yardage he he's
leading in all of those
1107
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:02,760
categories.
Like I said the interception is
1108
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,120
the only one where he doesn't
have as much as any of the other
1109
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:07,680
two first teamers.
He he's in second in that case
1110
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,640
definitely should have been one
of the the the two two players
1111
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:13,080
on first team.
I I.
1112
00:56:13,240 --> 00:56:15,720
You know what?
You know what it might be?
1113
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:19,760
It might be the the 40.
The 44 might be doing it.
1114
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:21,760
Man get get that man a single
digit.
1115
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:25,920
Give him a single digit.
Yeah, Tally's hated that 44 all,
1116
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:27,520
all, and now it's costing him
time.
1117
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:31,400
I'm going to go last year and by
the way, that is our coach Buddy
1118
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:35,840
Robbie Compton out there.
So always, always following.
1119
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,000
He's got great Internet.
Now he's going to chime in so
1120
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:39,160
much when he's not coaching
there.
1121
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:41,360
I loved when you guys had him
on.
1122
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:43,720
What was that over the summer?
Maybe that was.
1123
00:56:43,720 --> 00:56:46,480
That was a great episode.
Robbie's great, man.
1124
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:50,760
Robbie, I mean, I mean, all I
can say is Robbie's got a guy
1125
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:54,480
playing in the NFL now.
So, I mean, you don't, you don't
1126
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,480
get to do that.
All right, I'm going to go mine.
1127
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:58,360
And I kind of tipped it off a
little bit.
1128
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:00,120
What I said to Pete, there is
spatial tune.
1129
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:03,680
It's the AP is the all-purpose
player.
1130
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,440
Facial Tune is 27th in the
country, the throat clear.
1131
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:11,360
You know what's getting to.
This basial tune is 27th in the
1132
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:15,920
country with 14136 all-purpose
yards.
1133
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:19,320
There are only two ACC players
who are ahead of him.
1134
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:22,400
Talk to him, Kurt.
One is Malachi Washington.
1135
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:26,480
Malachi Washington.
Did not even break 300 yards on
1136
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:30,360
kickoff returns this year.
He had very minimal rushing
1137
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:32,000
yards.
That's not all-purpose.
1138
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:34,320
You're a great receiver.
Yes.
1139
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:39,080
The other one is O'marion
Hampton from North Carolina.
1140
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:44,160
Over 1400 yards rushing, only
about 200 yards catching the
1141
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:46,480
ball.
Basial Tootin Keon Coleman.
1142
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:49,160
Let's not even get into that 700
passing yards.
1143
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:53,200
Like 150 rushing in.
Like 300 punt return yards.
1144
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:56,000
Not even close.
He's not even on the first page
1145
00:57:56,240 --> 00:58:01,600
of the data board.
Here's our boys 727 rushing
1146
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:08,160
yards, 220 receiving yards, 489
kickoff return yards.
1147
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:13,480
He did not even have 200 plays
to get 1400 yards this year.
1148
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:15,680
Crazy.
And you know what, Curtis?
1149
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:19,480
It's not even does O line not
factor in.
1150
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:23,760
That would be my contention is
that you look at those numbers
1151
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:27,080
and then take into account the
old lines the other guys are
1152
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:29,000
playing behind and what Tootin's
playing behind.
1153
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:33,200
It has to play a factor and our
just our roster strength in
1154
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,040
general.
I believe it got significantly
1155
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:38,160
better than last year, but to
put up all that all-purpose
1156
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:40,840
yardage.
With a with a roster and
1157
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:43,720
swapping quarterbacks a few
games into the year, it is
1158
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:45,640
absolutely impressive and he
should be on that.
1159
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:49,040
First, let's let's talk about He
pretty much started the season
1160
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:52,600
with a hand behind his back in
those first two to three
1161
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:53,720
outings.
Yeah.
1162
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:56,600
He was breaking 10 tackles for
one yard.
1163
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:00,240
He looked like Pacheco out
there, man.
1164
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:05,280
I would love to get that data of
how many he broke this year,
1165
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,280
because he broke a ton and I'd
love to do it as.
1166
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:10,320
This oh, you got to check out
the the Doug Bowman article on
1167
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:13,080
247.
Just put one out and it was like
1168
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:17,600
we broke a ridiculous amount of
tackles and and yards after
1169
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:19,320
catch and everything.
That that article was really
1170
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:21,040
good.
Just show you who put it out.
1171
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:22,920
Player Doug.
It was Doug.
1172
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:26,080
Yeah, he said, he said.
I think in that article it said
1173
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:30,800
two broke like 61 tackles and
and last year.
1174
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:34,840
I think we were led by Keyshawn
King, who broke like 19.
1175
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:39,240
You know, it was, it was a crazy
different number for what what
1176
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:41,400
they did.
This is a great point here,
1177
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:44,360
probably brought up.
Think about that.
1178
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:47,440
He put those sort of numbers up
with drones getting up.
1179
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,560
There were games where drones
were doing a lot of carrying
1180
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:51,000
too, so that's even more
impressive.
1181
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,200
Again, they screwed up.
They got some right, don't get
1182
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:56,640
me wrong, they got some right.
But they definitely screwed.
1183
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:58,720
I think at least two of our guys
out of first team, and I think
1184
00:59:58,720 --> 00:59:59,800
Dorian at least should have
been.
1185
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:01,880
What about John Love?
Shouldn't he be first team?
1186
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,160
He's like 9th in the country in
field goal percentage.
1187
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:06,840
Is love even only hold on?
I think I don't know mentioned
1188
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,280
mention got.
I don't mentioned he's like, I
1189
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,560
think he's second in the ACC.
Yeah, he should have been at
1190
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:13,920
least second team.
So it's a lot of things.
1191
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:15,800
All right.
I got to turn to a little bit of
1192
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:19,720
sad news here and this is going
to become a segment from here on
1193
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:21,720
out and it is going to be
discussion of the portal.
1194
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:24,320
We're going to have to give it
and to take it away.
1195
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:27,720
And unfortunately Brian, sorry,
right there I'm.
1196
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:32,080
I'm I'm going to survive, man,
because this is Brian's boy day.
1197
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:33,360
Quality and the poor went out
earlier.
1198
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:35,560
Well, yeah.
Is that where you went a little
1199
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:36,600
bit earlier?
Did you go ahead?
1200
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:37,840
Because you knew we were going
to talk about it?
1201
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:39,720
Had it.
Given my cat was throwing up on
1202
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:43,000
the carpet, oh wow.
We had also had issues tonight.
1203
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:46,240
My boss, she's now passed out
over here on her bed, so she's
1204
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:47,960
good.
I don't know what was going on,
1205
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:52,560
but Daquan right enters the
portal third this year in both
1206
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:54,560
receptions and receiving yards
for Tech.
1207
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:58,960
There are some things, and I'm
not going to mention what I've
1208
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:03,120
heard, but the apparently
there's some things going on in
1209
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:06,320
other parts of his life that
potentially could be affecting
1210
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:07,880
this.
It seems like this may be an
1211
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:11,880
amicable split.
I hope it is, but it hurts
1212
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:15,560
because I mean that guy he, he's
growing.
1213
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:17,280
I mean he got better as a
blocker.
1214
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:19,040
Brian, you mentioned several
times this year he's he's
1215
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:22,520
showing better.
It stinks and.
1216
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:26,840
Well, you know, there's there's
the rule that you can only have
1217
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:29,880
one Daquan on a team and we
already had Felton and like we
1218
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:31,360
already broke that rule for one
season.
1219
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:32,880
So he's got to go,
unfortunately.
1220
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:38,160
But I, I he was such a good
playmaker for us in a spot of
1221
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:42,120
need because we lost Gallo
before the year and we needed
1222
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:44,400
some guys at tight end to step
up and him and Benji.
1223
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:48,080
Kind of traded off on that role
and while at times their
1224
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:52,320
blocking was a little subpar,
they were very good playmakers
1225
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:53,960
and and Daquan Wright will be
missed.
1226
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:58,840
Definitely.
Yeah, I mean, he's that kind of
1227
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:00,960
guy that gives you a lot of
matchup nightmares.
1228
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:03,840
I know we didn't use them in the
red zone a lot, but in the
1229
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:07,040
middle of the field, when you
can match him up against a
1230
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:10,440
linebacker, match him up against
the safety, I mean, he was
1231
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:13,360
really, he could really eat.
On those crossers, those deep
1232
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:16,280
crossers, he was doing a lot of
good things in, in those areas,
1233
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:20,160
just really giving drones a
target in the middle of the
1234
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:22,280
field.
So that's going to be missed big
1235
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:26,720
time.
I'm really little little torn up
1236
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:31,280
about it, but I like what we
have in in in in Benji Gosnell.
1237
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:33,920
I feel like he's going to be a
guy that can step into that
1238
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:36,200
role.
I just think that when you talk
1239
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:41,360
about the the, the things that
show up on a stat sheet.
1240
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:44,400
I feel like right ceiling was
significantly higher than what
1241
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:45,640
we probably will get out of
Benji.
1242
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:49,960
But in terms of overall what a
tight end has to do, probably
1243
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:52,760
Benji would be the better player
in that just because I think his
1244
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:57,160
blocking overall is better and
you can use him in line a lot
1245
01:02:57,160 --> 01:03:01,120
more than you can use Daquan,
right, 100%, right.
1246
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:04,160
We've been going an hour here
and we're still not to the break
1247
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:06,160
because we've got to talk about
next year.
1248
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:09,360
We've got to talk about there's
already some guys we know are
1249
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:13,160
not coming back, some medical
situations, we got some COVID
1250
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:15,600
year stuff.
This is a huge shout out.
1251
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:19,200
David Cunningham from tech
sideline, Brian got in touch
1252
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:24,160
with him and he was able to
provide us with this and there
1253
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:28,200
are five guys that they're done.
There's no way they can come
1254
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:31,000
back.
It's Mario Kendricks, Norell
1255
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:33,560
Pollard, Darius Payne.
That's a lot of defensive
1256
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:36,520
tackles right there.
Tisdale and Nasir Peoples.
1257
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:42,040
What y'all's feels?
I mean, I feel like Tally, you
1258
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:45,080
joked earlier, it does feel like
Pollard's been here like 19
1259
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:51,880
years, Kendricks, but I mean, I
think we we I say that right
1260
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:52,960
there.
Y'all got to say it.
1261
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:55,800
We we've got to go get some guys
in the portal for defensive
1262
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:58,880
tackle without a doubt.
Yeah.
1263
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:01,200
I mean the go ahead, Pete, I'll
let you run.
1264
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:04,200
Go first.
I'm sorry Brian I keep I keep
1265
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:08,760
talking over my host here the
Fuga like do we have to just
1266
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:11,680
like make sure he comes back is
that someone we're like because
1267
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:13,760
at this point it's such a spot
of need.
1268
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:16,720
I feel like we want to keep as
many that are eligible to come
1269
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:22,040
back in the house because it is.
It's going to be rough with it's
1270
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:24,160
it's Payne, Pollard and
Kendrick's.
1271
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:25,440
Right.
Pollard.
1272
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:30,240
And all three.
All three, which is, Which
1273
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:33,960
leaves just Fuga and Panay as
guys who play significant
1274
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:35,680
repetitions this year.
That's it.
1275
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:41,400
A lot of young guys who have,
you know, you got like Gunnard
1276
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:44,480
Givens, you got Lamar Law.
I'm missing one here.
1277
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:48,240
Malachi Madison.
But they didn't get the reps and
1278
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:48,480
you.
Yeah.
1279
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:51,400
I was going to say you were so
pretty deep in that in that
1280
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:54,000
defensive tackle spot, you
didn't get a lot of young guys
1281
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:58,520
reps that were significant, so.
I mean, just got to pray that
1282
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:01,280
the portal giveth.
We got to go get some people out
1283
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:04,880
of the portal to fill some of
those spots, some older guys
1284
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:07,880
that's ready to play.
Got to have at least two
1285
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:11,000
defensive tackles in the portal
that are ready to play and
1286
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:14,360
that's if you know Fuga decides
to come back.
1287
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:18,120
And I feel like at this point,
as Pete alluded to, you got to
1288
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:20,720
do as much as you can to get him
back because even if he's not
1289
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:24,320
your your frontline player.
Depending on what you get from
1290
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:26,040
the portal, he's certainly
somebody that you're going to
1291
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:28,680
want to lean on from a
leadership standpoint and from a
1292
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:31,160
depth standpoint next year.
Just from knowing the defense,
1293
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:34,840
knowing how to how to handle
those situations and also again
1294
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:37,480
from a leadership perspective
kind of knowing what it means to
1295
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:39,720
carry the lunch pail and things
of that nature.
1296
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:43,360
So having him back I think would
be would be clutch.
1297
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:49,480
But yeah, definitely got to hit
hit the the portal hard on the D
1298
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:52,160
tackles.
Feel like you also probably need
1299
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:55,880
to to grab a Mike linebacker in
there with with Tisdale moving
1300
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:58,680
on.
You know some of the other guys
1301
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:03,240
having some up and down points
of the season where we really
1302
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:05,880
couldn't really find a lot of
consistency until kind of the
1303
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:07,760
the back half of the year at
that position.
1304
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:11,040
So I'm I'm definitely think
that's probably going to be one
1305
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:13,000
that we are targeting as well
and.
1306
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:15,960
I guess safety is kind of wait
and see.
1307
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:19,360
Obviously we had periods of the
season where people's wasn't in
1308
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:22,400
most of the start of the year
also coincided with some of the
1309
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:25,560
areas where we were, you know, a
little bit more leaky than you
1310
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:28,480
like to be on the back end,
especially in the run game.
1311
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:34,560
So do we see some more guys step
up that are younger that got
1312
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:38,600
some playing time this year,
whether that's a a Jalen Jones
1313
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:42,120
or a?
Most Phillips you know do they
1314
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:44,440
take a step in the offseason
where you feel comfortable about
1315
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:47,160
that position or you know do you
go out there and get another
1316
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:49,600
safety as well to kind of fill
in there.
1317
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:52,960
So we really got some decisions
to make just in those got that
1318
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:55,040
you know the the guys here that
are done, done.
1319
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:57,880
You know all three of those are
positions probably of need that
1320
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:00,880
you maybe you at least want to
consider if not attacked pretty
1321
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:02,120
hard in the Portal this
offseason.
1322
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:06,440
Yeah, 100% on that.
With both those groups.
1323
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:08,600
Let's talk about the medical
situation.
1324
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:12,320
Nick, you've got Nick Gallo out
there who lost this season, you
1325
01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:14,800
know, basically never played a
down.
1326
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:18,280
And then you get Ollie Jennings.
I think the Ollie Jennings
1327
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:20,680
situation, I believe he's coming
back.
1328
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:22,480
Full throttle.
Hope so.
1329
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:26,240
The, the, the, the tweet that
went out, I don't know if it was
1330
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:32,200
last night or today alluded to
that being the case, but we
1331
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:34,600
don't have anything that is
official, official but.
1332
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:38,400
Based on that, I would say it's
a very good chance that we are
1333
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:42,720
getting Ollie Jennings back for
a a medical red shirt, a final
1334
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:45,920
season there.
And then you know after we
1335
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:48,600
talked about that we got you
Nick Gallo as Curtis mentioned
1336
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:52,280
and with with right going.
Is that something that we try to
1337
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:54,200
press to get Gallo back for
another year?
1338
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:58,000
Is that something that he wants
to to kind of move forward with?
1339
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:02,720
And if he doesn't, is that
another area where we need to at
1340
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:06,160
least get a guy?
That can be a rotational piece
1341
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:09,200
to go alongside Benji Gosnell
heading into next year.
1342
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:14,240
Tally, I'll let you go on.
This, I mean when you think
1343
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:16,479
about tight ends, if we're
talking tight ends.
1344
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:23,080
We're talking tight ends, Tally.
Yeah, Nick, Nick Gallo deserves
1345
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:25,279
to to be able to play if he
wants to play.
1346
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:30,200
But to come off of an injury and
then think about, you know, the
1347
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:32,640
injury that he's had a
significant knee injury in the
1348
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:34,439
bend.
Taking all these hits these
1349
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:38,240
years, I don't know that he
brings this offense, what it
1350
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:40,040
really needs, You know what I'm
saying?
1351
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:43,160
I think Benji can bring what
Nick Gallo can bring them
1352
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:44,640
together.
It's just going to be the same
1353
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:45,840
player.
You know what I'm saying?
1354
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:47,800
And what we need is what Wright
is.
1355
01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:51,200
So I don't know how you go out
and find that, You know what I'm
1356
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:52,560
saying?
UVA did it a couple of years
1357
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:58,240
ago, which what was his name?
Jelani Woods, maybe That fucking
1358
01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:00,080
beast that they had at tight end
like.
1359
01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:04,399
You got to go find somebody like
that that's going to be kind of
1360
01:09:04,399 --> 01:09:09,479
a a yin and Yang with with with
Benji there but what I really
1361
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:13,680
need to see a little off topic
pry can you go get your
1362
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:17,840
linebackers use the linebackers
guy go get just like a white boy
1363
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:21,200
that's got blood between his
eyes like he can look just like
1364
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:22,960
Dax.
I just want him to be faster and
1365
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:28,520
a little bit taller, like just
go get that person because that
1366
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:32,600
I don't know, man like.
UVA always has like 1 crazy
1367
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:34,479
white dude that's like at middle
linebacker.
1368
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:37,680
That's just all over the field.
And I want to say, you know like
1369
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:41,600
Peyton, Peyton Wilson.
I know there's not many of him
1370
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:45,120
in the world, but if there is
one, can we go find him?
1371
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:47,800
Like, I just need to see that
would that that would drive
1372
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:50,240
Virginia Tech fans crazy.
Like they love that they look
1373
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:55,120
Dax what Dax Hollyfield will be
a He probably never pays for
1374
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:57,800
anything in Blacksburg just
because of what he looks like.
1375
01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:00,320
Like he was just.
The typical linebacker, you know
1376
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:02,080
what I'm saying?
And he did have a very good
1377
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:06,560
senior year and leading up to
that you could argue maybe he
1378
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:10,440
didn't live up to his recruiting
ranking or as as maybe as we put
1379
01:10:10,440 --> 01:10:14,040
it on him like we expected a lot
from Dax when he got to got to
1380
01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:16,160
Tech.
But his senior year was great
1381
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:19,400
and I'm with you Tally like and
NC States had a couple like they
1382
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:21,560
had Drake Thomas, and then they
went to Payton Hills and they
1383
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:24,440
had them both at the same time.
If you could get just one of
1384
01:10:24,440 --> 01:10:27,000
those guys, I can think of one
that's playing in the state
1385
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:28,360
right now.
And no, I'm not talking about
1386
01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:31,720
Stone Snyder from last year,
which didn't work out so well.
1387
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:35,760
The kid Jason Henderson at ODU I
was talking to.
1388
01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:38,000
Some of the guys on the.
Sun Saturday through Could you
1389
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:44,200
imagine if we got that guy like
you know a Scooby right type to
1390
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:46,920
come in here and just make
tackles like we?
1391
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:50,920
It would change our defense so
dramatically and we desperately.
1392
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:54,040
Need a Mike linebacker?
Like a real like.
1393
01:10:54,080 --> 01:11:00,000
I'm not sure I see a guy on the
roster that is a true Mike right
1394
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:03,600
now and so like that.
That's an absolute need.
1395
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:08,080
But just to double back to Gallo
real quick, he is walking that
1396
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:11,960
fine line between a thank you
for your service card.
1397
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:14,840
And please come back because I
can't.
1398
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:17,640
I can't quite decide.
I love the Gallo brothers.
1399
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:20,520
They are, they're true bangers
for real from Pennsylvania.
1400
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:23,880
Like they I I watched a lot of
games with Eric and Philly.
1401
01:11:24,440 --> 01:11:26,400
I saw him at the Rutgers game
when I was up there.
1402
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:29,480
Absolutely great guy.
Eric Gallo, awesome hokey.
1403
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:32,360
And Nick would help us next
year.
1404
01:11:32,440 --> 01:11:35,120
He would help us.
But Harrison St.
1405
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:38,200
Germain, There was some good
talk on him back in, you know,
1406
01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:40,480
preseason camp or maybe even
last year.
1407
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:43,400
And then?
Obviously we got, you know,
1408
01:11:43,480 --> 01:11:46,160
Benji is is is going to be a
stud at some point.
1409
01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:48,760
So what do you want to do with
the roster spot?
1410
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:51,040
I don't know.
But I don't think pride is going
1411
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:53,440
to.
He's never going to tell Nick to
1412
01:11:53,440 --> 01:11:54,720
walk away.
You know he would.
1413
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:56,280
He would take me back in a
heartbeat.
1414
01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:59,160
I don't know much.
I don't know much about the kid.
1415
01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:01,920
I've seen him play his high
school stuff, which was crazy to
1416
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:05,040
me, kind of how he slid to us.
What is it?
1417
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:06,560
Zeke Wimbush.
Yeah.
1418
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:11,320
So he's going to like he.
His body size and the things he
1419
01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:13,520
can do reminds me of what Wright
can do.
1420
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:16,240
I just haven't seen him do it on
the collegiate level, of course.
1421
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:20,240
But Wright came right in as a
freshman and and was able to be
1422
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:24,560
kind of what he is.
Zeke has the opportunity to be
1423
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:27,560
in the weight room for a year,
so who knows what we get out of
1424
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:28,160
him?
I don't know.
1425
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:29,920
I haven't heard a lot of talks
about him.
1426
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:34,760
I seen a couple of videos on him
before the season and I seen him
1427
01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:37,360
play in high school and Lauren
Johnson talked about him.
1428
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:40,240
When they played him.
When when Highland Springs
1429
01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:43,240
played him, and he was, if not
the best player on the field, he
1430
01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:45,680
was one of the best players on
the field against Highland
1431
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:48,040
Springs, which was the best team
in the state.
1432
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:52,440
Correct me if I'm wrong, Brian
or Curtis, but wasn't Zeke a?
1433
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:55,480
Was he originally supposed to be
a Gray shirt that they
1434
01:12:55,480 --> 01:12:57,720
ultimately gave a scholarship to
for this season?
1435
01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:01,680
I think, I think he was more of
a lot of upside, but a little
1436
01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:04,080
bit of a developmental project.
And hey, maybe it got started
1437
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:05,720
early because he got here
earlier.
1438
01:13:06,480 --> 01:13:08,840
Yeah, he was supposed he wasn't
going to be a Gray shirt.
1439
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:10,120
He was going to be a preferred
walk on.
1440
01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:13,360
And then he he did good enough
where they they gave him the
1441
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:16,280
scholarship early and y'all been
talking about here.
1442
01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:20,560
I'm like over here at, you know,
on three looking at the transfer
1443
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:23,040
portal tight ends and being
like, who can we get from here?
1444
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:26,240
Who actually makes sense.
But we've got some other guys
1445
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:27,480
too.
And you know what?
1446
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:29,080
I'm going to do this a little
different.
1447
01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:31,320
We're not going to talk because
we're an hour and 15 in and we
1448
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:34,800
got a lot more to cover with
Pete and I I have work tomorrow.
1449
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:37,720
Everybody has to work tomorrow.
I don't feel like being here
1450
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:39,320
till midnight.
This ain't stay of the program
1451
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:41,920
on a Friday night, which, Pete,
we might be sending you a link
1452
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:43,840
to come.
All right.
1453
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:46,680
I'd be honored.
Yes or no answers.
1454
01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:48,040
All.
I want to give you the names
1455
01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:49,960
these guys are eligible for
COVID years.
1456
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:56,840
Y'all ready Grant Wells, Brian.
No, no.
1457
01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:59,040
OK.
We're all a no, I'm a no.
1458
01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:04,840
Steven Gosnell, Pete.
Yes, White, Iverson Tally.
1459
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:09,200
They froze.
The man froze.
1460
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:11,680
Siglo.
I'm a yes.
1461
01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:15,120
I'm a yes.
Tally really likes White Iverson
1462
01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:15,680
A lot.
Yes.
1463
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:17,520
And notice Steven Gosnell, White
Iverson.
1464
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:19,600
Yes.
All right.
1465
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:23,720
Jay Lane Tally.
Yes.
1466
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:27,400
Yes, thumbs up.
Big thumbs up.
1467
01:14:27,440 --> 01:14:30,840
Yeah, big thumbs up.
Believe it or not, Clayton
1468
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:35,400
Frady, the transfer who came
from Gardner Webb, is eligible.
1469
01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:38,360
He only played in one game this
year, came really late.
1470
01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:43,240
Brian, you're the man.
You're the offensive lineman.
1471
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:48,440
Whether so, I'm going to say
tentative yes, but a lot of this
1472
01:14:48,440 --> 01:14:52,040
is going to depend on how many
scholarships we are giving to
1473
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:55,240
guys in the transfer portal
because if I've already seen us
1474
01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:58,280
throw like 3 or 4 offers out
there to offensive lineman, so
1475
01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:05,640
if that keeps up, I'm a no.
Especially if if those transfer
1476
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:10,120
portal players are of a more
seasoned caliber than Freddy is.
1477
01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:12,680
At this point, the fact that
Freddy didn't really come in
1478
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:17,120
here and at least crack that
that rotational spot in in a
1479
01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:19,680
weak offensive line room doesn't
really inspire confidence.
1480
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:23,480
I know he came in late, but, you
know, sometimes you just got to,
1481
01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:26,400
you got to cut your losses and
say, all right, well, we tried.
1482
01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:30,520
We're getting into the portal
earlier this cycle on the
1483
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:33,200
offensive line train.
We are not waiting for the
1484
01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:36,560
second window to really get
aggressive about going after
1485
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:38,320
offensive lineman like we did
last cycle.
1486
01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:41,480
So I'm I'm like I said
tentative, Yes.
1487
01:15:41,480 --> 01:15:44,840
But if we start getting some
guys committing to Virginia Tech
1488
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:47,760
in the portal, I say he's one
you got to let walk.
1489
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:51,000
Yeah, you put it best when you
said cut your losses because
1490
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:54,880
this this was a roulette spin.
You just see, hey, could we hit,
1491
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:58,520
you know, red or black on
Clayton Frady and we bet black
1492
01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:00,840
and hit red like that.
That's essentially what happened
1493
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:02,960
here.
And like if you this, it's all
1494
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:05,200
it's up to Crook if Crook thinks
he can work with them and get
1495
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:07,520
something out of him next year.
But this is not a young player
1496
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:11,280
and so if he came in here and
couldn't get in on this old
1497
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:13,720
line, I I think we have our
answer.
1498
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:17,840
Yep.
Clayton Frady Tally the.
1499
01:16:20,440 --> 01:16:22,880
Office.
No, he said.
1500
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:26,880
He done nothing.
So no, I'm I'm a no, I think
1501
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:29,680
that there are some young guys
between what we saw from Garrett
1502
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:34,560
what we saw from Brody Meadows.
Unless he absolutely turns it on
1503
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:35,560
a we get nothing out of the
portal.
1504
01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:37,600
Which I don't think.
I think we're going to get some
1505
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:41,720
stuff out of the portal.
All right, Fuga Tally go.
1506
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:45,280
I got to say yes, we got we
don't.
1507
01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:48,520
Yes, yes, you said don't go into
it.
1508
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:51,360
Yes, we'll just say yes.
We don't have the luxury to say
1509
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:52,120
no.
It's a yes.
1510
01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:54,120
There you go.
It's a.
1511
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:56,440
It's a yes.
It is a yes and tally.
1512
01:16:56,440 --> 01:16:58,760
I know what you're going to say
and I'm going to sum it up.
1513
01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:02,680
We losing 3 bodies.
We only got 5 that played this
1514
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:04,440
year.
You can't go into a defensive
1515
01:17:04,440 --> 01:17:07,120
tackle room with two, so he has
to stay.
1516
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:10,120
I'll go to the next one.
Here is Kiante Jenkins.
1517
01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:12,440
We've had Kiante on before and
I'm yes, it's.
1518
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:15,160
And it's not the Caleb Woodson
isn't ready.
1519
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:18,480
There's nobody ready behind
Caleb Woodson and at that
1520
01:17:18,480 --> 01:17:20,880
position you've got to have
somebody, so bring it back
1521
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:26,840
Keonta.
I'm a yes. 100%.
1522
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:29,440
Yes, I'm a I'm a yes as well.
Yeah, absolutely.
1523
01:17:29,440 --> 01:17:33,840
I'm going to do 2.
The kicker Hoeven.
1524
01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:35,080
Long snapper Pollock.
Sorry.
1525
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:42,840
Guys, No, they got.
No, I'm good on both of them.
1526
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:46,400
Sorry.
It it's it's John loves proven
1527
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:48,160
what he can.
It's like we've got a proven
1528
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:50,840
younger long snapper.
We got proven kicker, we got a
1529
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:54,480
kickoff specialist.
Sorry, this is the interesting
1530
01:17:54,480 --> 01:17:59,400
one because I did not know this
Derek Canteen can add an
1531
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:01,200
additional year via medical Red
Shirt.
1532
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:04,800
Yes.
Absolutely, please.
1533
01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:08,480
Absolutely A 100% and I'm going
to go back to something, Brian
1534
01:18:08,480 --> 01:18:11,560
said.
Canteen, play some safety this
1535
01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:12,560
year.
We know we're going to be
1536
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:16,320
probably less in that room that
lessens that blow potentially
1537
01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:20,040
there big time.
Well, we also have got word in
1538
01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:24,800
the last, you know 24 to 48
hours that our cornerback room
1539
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:30,800
is a high priority for other
teams throughout the throughout
1540
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:32,160
the country.
So tampering.
1541
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:38,320
Yeah, it is tampering.
So I I would definitely say, you
1542
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:41,240
know, you want to keep as many
guys in the building as you can,
1543
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:46,360
so that's a big yes for canteen.
All righty.
1544
01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:49,480
I'm going to hit these real
quick because again, we're
1545
01:18:49,480 --> 01:18:52,440
running, we're running super
with a lot of times here.
1546
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:58,320
I think over the last week, I
think men's hoops has looked
1547
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:02,160
better.
Women's has scared me the last.
1548
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:04,440
Week because men's hoop got
drilled.
1549
01:19:04,440 --> 01:19:08,240
What?
Yeah, but decent team.
1550
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:12,000
I mean, FAU was a very good
team, but I mean.
1551
01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:17,000
So what we saw against Boise and
Iowa State is what I hope we
1552
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:22,200
would see for most of the year.
What we saw against FAU is not
1553
01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:27,760
what I want to ever see again
this year because aside aside,
1554
01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:29,920
like I knew they were going to
score some points.
1555
01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:36,440
I was very disappointed in our
offensive output and I know we
1556
01:19:36,440 --> 01:19:40,080
live and die by the three, but
at some point you got to shoot
1557
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:41,800
better than that.
Yeah.
1558
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:45,600
Have you ever?
Seen us get whipped like that.
1559
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:47,360
It's like when coached by Mike
Young.
1560
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:49,000
I don't think we've ever been
whipped, no.
1561
01:19:49,480 --> 01:19:59,280
It was crazy to, I mean.
Alabama Internet's getting
1562
01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:01,520
actress tonight.
Yeah, it was a Final Four team
1563
01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:03,400
from last year.
We all understand that and in
1564
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:06,440
fact one of the other Final
four, Miami was just playing
1565
01:20:06,440 --> 01:20:07,800
against Kentucky a little bit
earlier.
1566
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:11,280
I didn't see how that one ended
because that the SECACC
1567
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:13,680
challenge, whatever is, is going
on right now.
1568
01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:17,400
I'm not even used to that.
But yeah man they they kicked
1569
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:20,360
our tail.
And I I'm, I'm kind of just,
1570
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:22,760
it's one of those things where
it's like let's just forget it
1571
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:25,440
and move on and see how the rest
of the season goes, because that
1572
01:20:25,440 --> 01:20:28,360
was just a you never see a Mike
Young team play like that.
1573
01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:31,120
It's true.
All righty.
1574
01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:35,280
Well, we have finally got to the
break time boys, so we are going
1575
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:39,080
to take a quick pause from our
digital partners and Main Street
1576
01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:42,400
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I can probably save you a lot of
1577
01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:44,360
money and I can take a lot
better care of you.
1578
01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:47,720
That's pretty much it.
My name is Jeremy Counts and I'm
1579
01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:49,960
a pharmacist.
I own and operate Main Street
1580
01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:51,480
Pharmacy here in downtown
Blacksburg.
1581
01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:53,680
My brother's a pharmacist.
I'm a pharmacist.
1582
01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:55,440
My uncle's a pharmacist.
My dad's a pharmacist.
1583
01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:58,600
I remember he would give me M
and Ms. to count in little pill
1584
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:00,440
counters.
This is something I've always
1585
01:21:00,440 --> 01:21:04,360
done, and I'm just lucky that
what I know so well is something
1586
01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:06,840
that I can do and feel good
about it and get back to people.
1587
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:09,320
Pharmacies are your frontline
defense.
1588
01:21:09,480 --> 01:21:12,560
Pharmacy's job is to make sure
you're getting optimal care for
1589
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:16,040
the lowest price possible.
Also, we take the pressure off
1590
01:21:16,120 --> 01:21:18,160
of emergency rooms.
I'll tell people immediately
1591
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:19,920
when they need to go to the
doctor, or I'll tell them if
1592
01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:21,560
they just need a cream over the
counter.
1593
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:24,520
If there's something that isn't
commercially available, if it's
1594
01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:27,200
something that's not available
in a certain strength or a
1595
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:29,920
certain form or anything like
that, we'll make it tailor made
1596
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:31,680
medications.
Some of those options save
1597
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:33,600
people a lot of money.
What motivates me?
1598
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:35,800
I get to take care of people and
live in Blacksburg.
1599
01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:40,720
That's all neat.
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Now back to the episode.
All righty.
1607
01:22:02,440 --> 01:22:05,400
So now we get to the second-half
of our episode.
1608
01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:07,600
We don't have no The Enemy this
week.
1609
01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:10,840
I hope next year at this time we
are talking about that, but we
1610
01:22:10,840 --> 01:22:13,880
brought Pete on for a reason.
Pete has been basically watching
1611
01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:16,160
college games all year, as we
all do.
1612
01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:19,880
But if y'all haven't watched
Pete's show comes on, you stream
1613
01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:21,360
it live.
I've seen it, I've occasionally
1614
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:23,320
watched it at work, it's
occasionally taking me off.
1615
01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:27,120
Some things I'm doing.
You've been following just the
1616
01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:30,080
season in general and that's why
we wanted to bring you on for
1617
01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:33,920
this because obviously we've got
all of the games this week with
1618
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:36,720
the Championship games.
But one other piece I wanted to
1619
01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:40,480
discuss with you, Pete, was a
lot of the coaching vacancies,
1620
01:22:40,480 --> 01:22:42,760
hirings and firings.
And as of today, I'm going to
1621
01:22:42,760 --> 01:22:45,280
read them all of what's still
open.
1622
01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:47,480
I might be missing a few since
the updates.
1623
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:51,320
San Diego State, New Mexico,
UTEP, UL, Monroe, Indiana,
1624
01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:54,040
Houston, Boise and Duke are
still open.
1625
01:22:54,200 --> 01:22:55,640
I don't think anybody else has
gotten fired.
1626
01:22:55,640 --> 01:22:57,480
If I've missed one, Pete, let me
know.
1627
01:22:58,240 --> 01:23:02,440
But Pete?
Obviously we're going to focus
1628
01:23:02,440 --> 01:23:05,600
on the Duke one, because the
other ones, yeah, maybe they
1629
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:09,080
compoke somebody that you know
was a good coordinator or a good
1630
01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:12,760
position coach from the ACC, but
Duke someone we're going to have
1631
01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:16,280
to play.
What are we hearing on the Duke
1632
01:23:16,280 --> 01:23:22,240
front of what's going to happen?
Because in most in our lifetime,
1633
01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:25,920
Duke doesn't get back-to-back
good head coaches.
1634
01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:27,920
They had Spurrier in the late
80s.
1635
01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:32,720
And then it legitimately took to
cut Cliff in the mid 2000s
1636
01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:34,360
before they had another decent
coach.
1637
01:23:35,240 --> 01:23:38,480
Yeah, and you know, Cutcliffe
worked himself into a position
1638
01:23:38,480 --> 01:23:42,080
where he did the Frank Beamer.
He became a victim of his own
1639
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:44,640
expectations and obviously he
got a little longer in the
1640
01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:47,680
tooth, but he deserved a chance
to walk away.
1641
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:50,320
When he wanted to, he more or
less did.
1642
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:53,480
And they go out and they hire
Mike Elko, someone a lot of us
1643
01:23:53,480 --> 01:23:56,240
hokey fans have talked a lot
about over the past two years
1644
01:23:56,680 --> 01:23:59,680
due to the performance of Duke
and how well they've played.
1645
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:02,800
Mainly because they've had a
fantastic quarterback.
1646
01:24:03,680 --> 01:24:07,200
Once they lost Riley Leonard.
This year that Duke team became
1647
01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:09,920
very beatable.
And so you can see that the
1648
01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:13,680
power of a starting quarterback.
But Elko did a fantastic job
1649
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:15,440
there.
And it's not just Elko.
1650
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:19,920
Duke, over the past two to three
years, has made a real
1651
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:24,440
investment in football.
They had a ton of staffers right
1652
01:24:24,440 --> 01:24:27,280
up there with us, right up there
with Pitt, with all the teams
1653
01:24:27,280 --> 01:24:30,120
that are starting to staff up in
the ACC.
1654
01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:32,360
Clemson has obviously been doing
it for a long time.
1655
01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:36,240
They were one of them.
And that's why you've seen some
1656
01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:40,640
of the results you've seen from
Duke over the past 2345 and back
1657
01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:44,000
into 2013 when they really burst
on the scene by beating us.
1658
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:48,240
But if you go to their coaching
candidates and who it could be,
1659
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:50,640
it really depends on where they
want to go right now, because
1660
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:55,680
they just did the OK, we'll hire
a guy who might look for greener
1661
01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:59,440
pastures in a year or two.
So now do you do the thing where
1662
01:24:59,440 --> 01:25:04,120
you go after a Willie Fritz or
an older coach where, OK, you
1663
01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:07,600
get them and you want this to be
their retirement spot where like
1664
01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:11,800
they can win you 6 to 8 to 9
games a year, whatever it might
1665
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:15,040
be you, you buck up and you
might win 10 once in a while.
1666
01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:18,160
But like, you know, the guy's
not going anywhere.
1667
01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:20,160
That's kind of what we did with
Mike Young, right?
1668
01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:22,760
We we, he, he was been at
Wofford forever.
1669
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:25,400
He's from our region.
He's probably not going
1670
01:25:25,400 --> 01:25:27,120
anywhere, even if he does
really, really well.
1671
01:25:27,640 --> 01:25:30,600
Will they go for something like
that or will they go after a
1672
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:34,640
Tommy Reese, a young hotshot
coordinator type.
1673
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:37,720
I think Sean Lewis might have
just got hired.
1674
01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:39,800
Who?
San Diego State, like literally
1675
01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:41,160
just hired someone if you.
Want.
1676
01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:43,760
Oh, OK, Well, I saw Sean Lewis's
name.
1677
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:44,720
I'll look that up while you
keep.
1678
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:47,400
Yeah, but that that was a guy
who I think he coached at Kent
1679
01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:50,120
State.
He ends up with Dion, Dion,
1680
01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:53,680
demotes him and whatever.
But do they go the young
1681
01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:57,440
coordinator route or do they go
the more, you know, Dave Clawson
1682
01:25:57,440 --> 01:25:58,880
ish route?
Not that they're going to go
1683
01:25:58,880 --> 01:26:00,640
after Clawson himself, but you
know what I'm saying?
1684
01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:04,560
I don't know, but I know the
investment with Duke football is
1685
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:08,360
there and we're never going to
know the salary because of FOIA.
1686
01:26:08,360 --> 01:26:09,480
They don't have to deal with
that.
1687
01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:14,000
So I'm not sure, but those are
just a couple of names that come
1688
01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:17,600
to mind as Fritz and Reese and
and maybe a Sean Lewis type,
1689
01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:19,080
even if it's not going to be
him.
1690
01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:22,800
All righty, Y'all, got any
questions or anything I want to
1691
01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:25,360
say about?
And by the way, you are 100%
1692
01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:29,360
right, It broke with the local
San Diego station 22 minutes
1693
01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:31,680
ago.
Sean Lewis is going to be the
1694
01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:34,240
next head coach of the San Diego
State Aztecs.
1695
01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:37,440
A pretty, pretty solid.
That's a good pull for them.
1696
01:26:37,440 --> 01:26:39,760
And yeah, it is.
And that's a good program like
1697
01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:42,240
they they've been, you know?
They've been good for years.
1698
01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:43,640
Rocky, long.
It's like bringing in bracks.
1699
01:26:43,680 --> 01:26:45,040
Blurmeister.
That's a good yeah.
1700
01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:47,520
Rocky Long, man.
I love Rocky Long, Yeah.
1701
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:50,400
All right boys, y'all got any
questions on about some of
1702
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:52,080
these?
Opening ones for Pete right now
1703
01:26:52,080 --> 01:26:55,120
are y'all pretty good.
I've been hearing some, some
1704
01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:59,880
smoke about Kingsbury going to
Houston, going back.
1705
01:26:59,880 --> 01:27:01,200
I've heard anything about that.
Yeah.
1706
01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:05,480
Yeah, Houston is one of those
jobs that, like in the new Big
1707
01:27:05,480 --> 01:27:09,240
12, when you get into next year
and you're thinking about who
1708
01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:12,600
could win that conference.
Well, with Texas and Oklahoma
1709
01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:16,520
gone and some of those PAC 12
schools coming in, anyone could
1710
01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:18,360
win that conference.
It depends on.
1711
01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:24,280
I don't know how well Dana
Holgerson has built that program
1712
01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:27,400
out.
Despite his name, I don't think
1713
01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:29,680
Holgo is the best coach.
I don't think he's been
1714
01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:31,280
recruiting at a super high
level.
1715
01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:36,200
So Houston, it might take a bit
for Houston to get back up, but
1716
01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:40,240
like once, if they get the right
coach, Houston could be in
1717
01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:42,800
competition to win that
conference every year because
1718
01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:45,440
there is no, there's no blue
blood there.
1719
01:27:45,440 --> 01:27:50,200
Like, TCU is probably the
closest thing you have to like a
1720
01:27:50,200 --> 01:27:53,920
powerhouse in that conference.
Yeah, I'm yeah, OK, you're
1721
01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:55,440
right.
And sometimes I forget about the
1722
01:27:55,440 --> 01:27:58,200
teams that are even coming in.
But yes, Utah could run that
1723
01:27:58,200 --> 01:28:00,000
thing.
They could run that thing in
1724
01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:01,440
over the next 10 years.
So.
1725
01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:05,200
But Houston's got as good a
chance as any in that in that
1726
01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:08,880
conference to compete.
I don't think Cliff is the guy
1727
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:12,080
to help you compete.
I I mean, he, he wasn't good at
1728
01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:14,400
Texas Tech.
He wasn't good in the NFL.
1729
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:16,680
So now he's going to be good.
Like I I don't think so.
1730
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:19,240
Ron, you got any you want to
discuss?
1731
01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:22,760
You know that that's really the
most interesting one in my
1732
01:28:22,760 --> 01:28:26,600
opinion outside of Duke, which
obviously directs us, affects us
1733
01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:30,320
directly.
It's going to be interesting to
1734
01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:35,040
see what they do at that at that
spot because like Pete alluded
1735
01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:39,560
to like they could really kind
of make that that that home for
1736
01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:42,480
them if they if they do well,
they could kind of turn that
1737
01:28:42,480 --> 01:28:44,920
into a powerhouse in that
conference.
1738
01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:48,400
They've got money they they're
in Texas like they there's
1739
01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:52,480
there's advantages there and I
mean of course you know
1740
01:28:52,480 --> 01:28:55,880
Arizona's had a good year.
Arizona State it always seems
1741
01:28:55,880 --> 01:28:58,600
like a sleeping giant.
Like they might be able to to
1742
01:28:58,600 --> 01:29:02,880
pop up and be good, but like
Texas, it's all about football
1743
01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:04,600
in Texas and and Houston's right
there.
1744
01:29:05,480 --> 01:29:08,520
Arizona State always seems to
get like, get good players, but
1745
01:29:08,520 --> 01:29:10,640
they.
Struggle to put it together for
1746
01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:13,200
any sustained period of time,
but they'll always have that
1747
01:29:13,440 --> 01:29:15,920
like one year here or there
where they'll pop and get like
1748
01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:18,040
nine or ten wins.
They had Jaden Daniels.
1749
01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:22,000
They did.
Hey, here's the question I've
1750
01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:25,800
got with these openings because
obviously there's going to be a
1751
01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:27,760
significant amount of money
attached to the job because
1752
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:29,680
they're in the Big 10.
Who is going?
1753
01:29:29,720 --> 01:29:32,160
Who is willing to put their neck
out to take Indiana over?
1754
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:38,240
Yeah, that Indiana is another
one of those really tough spots
1755
01:29:38,240 --> 01:29:40,520
to win.
I would liken it to a Syracuse
1756
01:29:40,920 --> 01:29:45,160
where there's not a lot of
historical success, but you've
1757
01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:49,240
got a Big 10 paycheck.
And if your university decides
1758
01:29:49,240 --> 01:29:53,080
to make the focus, like they put
a lot of money behind Tom Allen
1759
01:29:53,080 --> 01:29:57,360
that that buyout, it's like one
of the highest ever in college
1760
01:29:57,360 --> 01:30:01,720
football to buy Tom Allen out.
And he, he benefited from that
1761
01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:04,520
COVID season, which was super
weird and they had a they had a
1762
01:30:04,520 --> 01:30:09,360
good year.
But Indiana, it's it's a getting
1763
01:30:09,360 --> 01:30:12,200
rid of the divisions is good for
them because they're no longer
1764
01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:15,200
in the East having to play all
three of those powerhouses every
1765
01:30:15,200 --> 01:30:17,000
year.
But you're also adding Oregon
1766
01:30:17,000 --> 01:30:20,240
and UCLA.
So, like, no, Indiana has an
1767
01:30:20,240 --> 01:30:23,880
uphill battle to be good.
Oh, and and UW and Oregon.
1768
01:30:24,240 --> 01:30:26,960
Sorry, yes, y'all.
Are going to talk, Y'all are
1769
01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:30,360
going to talk about Colorado.
They're they're into the Big 12
1770
01:30:30,440 --> 01:30:32,040
and you're right.
So we should have mentioned
1771
01:30:32,040 --> 01:30:33,320
that.
We should have been mentioned
1772
01:30:33,320 --> 01:30:35,640
that when we talked about the
Big 12 because just like
1773
01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:39,680
Houston, Colorado's, if Dion can
do what some people think Dion's
1774
01:30:39,680 --> 01:30:43,680
going to do, they could, they
could be competing for titles in
1775
01:30:43,680 --> 01:30:45,600
that conference too.
But as far as the Big 10 goes,
1776
01:30:46,280 --> 01:30:51,200
Indiana, you'll you'll get paid
and you will have opportunity.
1777
01:30:51,200 --> 01:30:53,120
I mean, Notre Dame, it's Notre
Dame.
1778
01:30:53,360 --> 01:30:54,680
They've got the historical
success.
1779
01:30:54,680 --> 01:30:57,400
It's the same state.
You can't recruit like Notre
1780
01:30:57,400 --> 01:31:00,000
Dame.
You got to find someone who can
1781
01:31:00,000 --> 01:31:03,160
build.
So do you turn to a Tommy Reese
1782
01:31:03,160 --> 01:31:05,400
there?
Because that's another name at
1783
01:31:05,400 --> 01:31:07,720
another position where like
maybe you go to him.
1784
01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:11,080
He knows the state, he knows he
knows offense.
1785
01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:13,480
Maybe you want to score some
points in Indiana, do things a
1786
01:31:13,480 --> 01:31:15,480
little bit differently.
You're probably going to have to
1787
01:31:15,480 --> 01:31:16,600
do things a little bit
differently.
1788
01:31:16,920 --> 01:31:19,760
Yeah, I mean really in terms of
pecking order, they're like
1789
01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:22,480
they're at least third of the
pecking order in their own
1790
01:31:22,480 --> 01:31:25,120
state.
Because I mean Purdue has a
1791
01:31:25,120 --> 01:31:28,280
whole lot more history of
football and success and
1792
01:31:28,280 --> 01:31:31,000
recruiting successes than than
Indiana has ever had.
1793
01:31:31,080 --> 01:31:34,800
So they they are at least third
on the pecking order from a
1794
01:31:34,800 --> 01:31:36,400
recruiting.
It's an uphill battle, man.
1795
01:31:36,400 --> 01:31:38,760
It's a super uphill battle for
for Indiana.
1796
01:31:39,280 --> 01:31:41,080
What'd you have, Tally?
You about to say something.
1797
01:31:42,120 --> 01:31:44,920
Say Indiana had appendix, right?
They did.
1798
01:31:45,200 --> 01:31:48,080
They did.
That was, that was how Tom got
1799
01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:52,560
Tom Allen got that extension.
Oh, man.
1800
01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:54,840
All right, let's go to the guys
who have already been hired and
1801
01:31:54,840 --> 01:31:56,480
obviously now we've got Sean
Lewis.
1802
01:31:56,480 --> 01:31:58,680
And you kind of made your point
that you'd like that hire out of
1803
01:31:58,680 --> 01:32:02,480
San Diego State.
But the other four guys between
1804
01:32:02,480 --> 01:32:05,880
Elko going to A&M, Jeff Levy,
the Oklahoma OC heading down to
1805
01:32:05,880 --> 01:32:08,480
Mississippi State, By the way,
I've told a lot of people.
1806
01:32:09,400 --> 01:32:11,240
They're hiring an offensive guy
in Mississippi State.
1807
01:32:11,240 --> 01:32:13,640
It's just what they do.
They've done it ever since they
1808
01:32:13,640 --> 01:32:15,600
fired Sylvester crew in 15 years
ago.
1809
01:32:16,280 --> 01:32:19,960
Jonathan Smith going to Michigan
State, sort of the the one that
1810
01:32:19,960 --> 01:32:21,360
kind of hurt your soul a little
bit.
1811
01:32:21,920 --> 01:32:25,280
And today Fran Brown, the
defensive back coats for
1812
01:32:25,280 --> 01:32:31,200
Georgia.
OK, I was going to say Foo going
1813
01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:36,080
to Utah or New Mexico.
But of those four, which one do
1814
01:32:36,080 --> 01:32:41,040
you like the best, Pete?
I love the Elko higher for Texas
1815
01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:44,720
A and MI kind of ragged on Texas
A and MA couple weeks back and
1816
01:32:44,720 --> 01:32:50,320
just that like they have no
historical success like a little
1817
01:32:50,320 --> 01:32:52,960
bit here and there.
Johnny Football though is what
1818
01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:56,480
created this whole new momentum.
Them going to the SEC combined
1819
01:32:56,480 --> 01:33:00,760
with that gave them a whole new
breath of life and investors and
1820
01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:04,120
all this kind of stuff.
But you go back, look at look at
1821
01:33:04,120 --> 01:33:07,280
a team like Oregon and a team
like Indiana or a team like
1822
01:33:07,280 --> 01:33:09,240
Texas A&M.
Sorry, got Indiana the brain.
1823
01:33:10,240 --> 01:33:14,040
Oregon's had like 9 top ten
finishes since 2000.
1824
01:33:14,320 --> 01:33:16,680
You'd have to go back to the 50s
to get that for A&M.
1825
01:33:16,920 --> 01:33:20,120
They just have not had the
success on the field.
1826
01:33:20,640 --> 01:33:24,360
They might have more money and
nil power than just about anyone
1827
01:33:24,360 --> 01:33:27,440
else right now.
And so with Elko going there, a
1828
01:33:27,440 --> 01:33:31,240
guy who recruited some of those
kids that are still in that
1829
01:33:31,240 --> 01:33:33,760
building and some of those
really good recruiting classes
1830
01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:37,160
for A and MI think there's a
little bit of continuity there.
1831
01:33:37,440 --> 01:33:39,520
They know what they're getting
with Elko.
1832
01:33:40,320 --> 01:33:42,840
What's weird about the only
thing that I find a little bit
1833
01:33:42,840 --> 01:33:46,720
weird is that Elko is their
second choice, right?
1834
01:33:46,720 --> 01:33:50,240
Like they wanted Stoops.
They got Elko and they're
1835
01:33:50,240 --> 01:33:53,440
probably paying him for like a
slight, slight discount of
1836
01:33:53,440 --> 01:33:56,760
Stoops, but I still think it's a
really good hire, so I'm a fan
1837
01:33:56,760 --> 01:33:58,320
of that.
I think Jonathan Smith actually
1838
01:33:58,320 --> 01:34:02,160
going to Michigan State is
perfect for Michigan State.
1839
01:34:02,360 --> 01:34:05,760
Michigan State is the A&M of the
Big 10.
1840
01:34:06,080 --> 01:34:09,040
They got to compete with
multiple big boys for recruits
1841
01:34:09,600 --> 01:34:13,800
and in the standings, and this
is a guy who can build.
1842
01:34:14,000 --> 01:34:17,880
He did it at literally one of
the four hardest places to win
1843
01:34:17,880 --> 01:34:21,320
in P5 football.
He won at Oregon State.
1844
01:34:21,520 --> 01:34:23,800
I think he's going to go, he's
going to build something special
1845
01:34:23,800 --> 01:34:25,560
at Michigan State.
So I think that's a really good
1846
01:34:25,560 --> 01:34:27,840
one.
The the Georgia one up at
1847
01:34:27,840 --> 01:34:31,040
Syracuse.
It could work out.
1848
01:34:31,440 --> 01:34:34,320
You know how coaching hires go.
We thought Foo was a home run
1849
01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:37,640
when we hired him.
That one's a a little strange
1850
01:34:37,640 --> 01:34:41,520
because, like, he's known as a
recruiter, but, like, are you
1851
01:34:41,520 --> 01:34:43,280
out recruiting anyone at
Syracuse?
1852
01:34:43,560 --> 01:34:49,200
Like, like you have to be able
to develop and have a system and
1853
01:34:49,280 --> 01:34:51,720
we don't know what his system
would because he's been an
1854
01:34:51,720 --> 01:34:54,600
assistant.
So like it that that one's a
1855
01:34:54,600 --> 01:34:56,520
that one's a head scratcher for
me because I thought like
1856
01:34:56,520 --> 01:34:58,680
someone like Dan Mullen could
have done well up there or
1857
01:34:58,680 --> 01:35:00,840
something like that.
But hey, what do I know?
1858
01:35:01,160 --> 01:35:04,200
Yeah, Fran, Fran Brown's a big
time dice roll for them.
1859
01:35:04,440 --> 01:35:07,640
That could really, you know, if
he puts the pieces together
1860
01:35:07,640 --> 01:35:10,240
fast.
That could go well for them, but
1861
01:35:10,240 --> 01:35:13,600
I don't I still, I still don't
think there's like you're still
1862
01:35:13,600 --> 01:35:16,440
capping out at like a eight or
nine win season at Syracuse,
1863
01:35:16,440 --> 01:35:19,400
even if you do all the right
things and make all the right
1864
01:35:19,480 --> 01:35:22,520
moves.
So you know, I don't know what
1865
01:35:22,520 --> 01:35:26,360
that looks like and if it's
worth that type of dice roll for
1866
01:35:26,600 --> 01:35:29,120
still such a relatively low
ceiling.
1867
01:35:30,240 --> 01:35:33,440
I like the Elko higher.
I think that's that's just a
1868
01:35:33,480 --> 01:35:37,000
really good fit overall, you
know you talked about.
1869
01:35:37,320 --> 01:35:40,240
You know Jonathan Smith, I think
that's that's a sneaky good one
1870
01:35:40,560 --> 01:35:43,880
because as you said, they're
kind of dealing with a very
1871
01:35:43,880 --> 01:35:49,320
similar type makeup of being
surrounded by two powers and and
1872
01:35:49,320 --> 01:35:55,560
being able to recruit around
that and develop better than
1873
01:35:55,560 --> 01:35:58,120
those programs in order to have
that type of success.
1874
01:35:58,120 --> 01:36:00,920
So you got to do the Mark
Dantonio like you.
1875
01:36:01,000 --> 01:36:03,760
That's what Dantonio did.
He hired good coordinators.
1876
01:36:03,880 --> 01:36:07,040
It it was a very frank beamer,
like good coordinators recruit
1877
01:36:07,080 --> 01:36:10,440
the the footprint and find the
the diamonds in the rough.
1878
01:36:10,440 --> 01:36:13,200
That's what Dantonio did, and
that's what Jonathan Smith's
1879
01:36:13,200 --> 01:36:17,080
going to have to do.
I'm going to say this, I I'm,
1880
01:36:17,080 --> 01:36:19,440
I'm with you all that I think
the Elko is the best hire.
1881
01:36:19,440 --> 01:36:22,440
Because Elko also goes back to
the roots of what A&M is.
1882
01:36:22,440 --> 01:36:25,400
If you look at the best coaches
they ever had, there's three of
1883
01:36:25,400 --> 01:36:27,720
them.
There's Bear, Brown, obviously
1884
01:36:27,720 --> 01:36:30,440
in the 50s.
There's Jackie.
1885
01:36:30,480 --> 01:36:31,480
Cheryl, Go look up.
Jackie.
1886
01:36:31,480 --> 01:36:32,000
Cheryl.
Jackie.
1887
01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:34,720
Cheryl was a hell of a coach,
hell of a defensive coordinator.
1888
01:36:35,320 --> 01:36:38,240
At Pitt and then a head coach at
Pitt and then RC Slocum in the
1889
01:36:38,240 --> 01:36:39,840
90s with the wrecking crew
defense.
1890
01:36:40,400 --> 01:36:45,080
RC Slocum was a 70, was a 700
win percentage got when he was
1891
01:36:45,080 --> 01:36:46,920
there and it was based on
defense.
1892
01:36:47,280 --> 01:36:51,160
Elko and here's what I think
Elko is going into being there
1893
01:36:51,160 --> 01:36:53,240
as that defensive coordinator
for several years.
1894
01:36:53,680 --> 01:36:55,520
He knows how fucking crazy they
are.
1895
01:36:56,200 --> 01:36:58,640
He knows it already.
I don't think Jimbo knew it.
1896
01:36:58,640 --> 01:37:00,840
I think Jimbo oh, they're a lot
like Florida State.
1897
01:37:00,880 --> 01:37:02,840
They they they've got some high
crazy fans though.
1898
01:37:02,840 --> 01:37:06,040
He went in there and was like.
What the fuck is this like?
1899
01:37:06,040 --> 01:37:09,240
These people are stupid and I
think being there is going to
1900
01:37:09,240 --> 01:37:12,240
give him that base.
But I think also being he is a
1901
01:37:12,240 --> 01:37:16,880
football coach and sometimes
places like that just need a
1902
01:37:16,880 --> 01:37:18,840
football coach.
I'm not trying to come out here
1903
01:37:18,840 --> 01:37:21,640
and be the greatest on the PA.
We're going to go fucking win
1904
01:37:21,640 --> 01:37:23,680
football games.
That's all I care about.
1905
01:37:24,120 --> 01:37:26,160
And I'm also glad he's not a
Duke anymore.
1906
01:37:27,080 --> 01:37:31,240
Honestly, because because you
know what, he ain't going to be
1907
01:37:31,240 --> 01:37:33,800
looking for the same portal guys
we're looking at this year like
1908
01:37:33,800 --> 01:37:36,160
he did the last few years.
So there that is.
1909
01:37:36,360 --> 01:37:39,240
Tally, anybody got anything else
on any of these coaching,
1910
01:37:39,240 --> 01:37:42,680
anything Pete you want to add
additional to some of the stuff?
1911
01:37:43,040 --> 01:37:46,000
One comment on that the Duke
thing since they're in our
1912
01:37:46,000 --> 01:37:49,400
conference you said what are the
odds they hire two good coaches
1913
01:37:49,400 --> 01:37:51,320
in a row?
They had Cutcliff, They had
1914
01:37:51,320 --> 01:37:53,280
Elko.
What are the odds they hire a
1915
01:37:53,280 --> 01:37:55,800
third good coach in a row?
Minuscule.
1916
01:37:55,960 --> 01:37:57,200
Let's.
Hope it's 0.
1917
01:37:57,280 --> 01:37:59,480
Let's hope it's low.
Let's hope it's very low.
1918
01:37:59,480 --> 01:38:03,760
And and maybe this move, you
know, gives us the very I know
1919
01:38:03,760 --> 01:38:07,520
we already had the inside track,
but a inside track for a certain
1920
01:38:07,640 --> 01:38:09,760
offensive lineman from
Christiansburg, so.
1921
01:38:10,840 --> 01:38:13,720
That's all I'll say with that.
All right, all righty.
1922
01:38:13,720 --> 01:38:16,880
So we are now going to be
flipping to the big Screener
1923
01:38:16,880 --> 01:38:20,040
segment and but we don't have to
pick any games this week because
1924
01:38:20,040 --> 01:38:23,920
we are going to run through the
gamut that is Championship
1925
01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:26,400
Fridays and Saturday with Pete
here.
1926
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1928
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1930
01:38:38,880 --> 01:38:41,200
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1931
01:38:41,720 --> 01:38:43,720
Book that 10 1/2.
He is definitely going to
1932
01:38:43,720 --> 01:38:46,040
scramble probably for at least
30 to 40.
1933
01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:49,320
Blake quorum against Iowa, take
the under.
1934
01:38:49,520 --> 01:38:51,880
I think quorum gets to 80.
I still think they're going to
1935
01:38:51,880 --> 01:38:55,800
win it, but that's my two play
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1936
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1937
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1938
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Bring it up real quick, Brian.
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1939
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Use that.
1940
01:39:09,960 --> 01:39:11,600
Let's take that off the screen
and.
1941
01:39:12,560 --> 01:39:13,920
Let's go.
Let's go ahead and add this on
1942
01:39:13,920 --> 01:39:16,360
there this.
Just dropped as we were
1943
01:39:16,360 --> 01:39:19,960
starting.
That's right.
1944
01:39:22,440 --> 01:39:25,720
I mean, that's right.
Yeah.
1945
01:39:26,360 --> 01:39:30,720
Well, does does it surprise you
that that Michigan doesn't jump
1946
01:39:30,720 --> 01:39:35,120
to 1?
A little bit, actually.
1947
01:39:35,160 --> 01:39:36,480
Yeah.
I thought they, I thought for
1948
01:39:36,480 --> 01:39:40,720
sure they would be 1.
Well, so they were three last
1949
01:39:40,720 --> 01:39:42,800
week though, right?
They were.
1950
01:39:43,000 --> 01:39:46,000
But they beat the number 2.
And they did and they were
1951
01:39:46,000 --> 01:39:48,920
undefeated.
So I just, I just I I thought
1952
01:39:48,920 --> 01:39:50,680
since the Ohio State win with
all of them over.
1953
01:39:50,680 --> 01:39:53,440
But then you look at the, if you
look at the rankings, you know
1954
01:39:53,440 --> 01:39:58,560
you've got Ole Miss at #11 and
you've got who's the other one
1955
01:39:59,160 --> 01:40:02,120
for?
For Georgia, Mizzou at #9, like
1956
01:40:02,360 --> 01:40:04,640
they've got two top eleven wins
and so.
1957
01:40:05,040 --> 01:40:06,560
I guess that's what.
And if you go a little bit
1958
01:40:06,560 --> 01:40:09,040
further too, like they beat
Tennessee, was that number 21,
1959
01:40:09,040 --> 01:40:10,760
which I'm actually surprised,
Tennessee?
1960
01:40:10,760 --> 01:40:12,680
'S in the range.
All right, you you ready for it?
1961
01:40:12,680 --> 01:40:15,440
Tally's going to tell you why
they got this tally.
1962
01:40:15,480 --> 01:40:17,400
You know the reason why?
Look, who's the number 8?
1963
01:40:17,440 --> 01:40:20,320
What if #8?
Yeah, they won't.
1964
01:40:20,360 --> 01:40:23,240
I mean, they're anticipating
them playing Alabama.
1965
01:40:23,360 --> 01:40:26,920
That gets what it is.
So that's why Georgia's at #1,
1966
01:40:26,920 --> 01:40:28,800
because they're going to play
Alabama this weekend.
1967
01:40:28,800 --> 01:40:31,000
So.
And if they lose to Alabama,
1968
01:40:31,080 --> 01:40:33,120
well, Alabama just beat the
number one team in the country.
1969
01:40:33,120 --> 01:40:34,680
We have to put them in the
playoff.
1970
01:40:35,160 --> 01:40:37,040
Oh yeah, you know what?
That.
1971
01:40:37,040 --> 01:40:39,800
But this is this is great.
But how do you put Alabama in
1972
01:40:39,800 --> 01:40:41,800
over Texas in Texas, beat
Alabama.
1973
01:40:41,800 --> 01:40:43,400
There you.
Go well.
1974
01:40:43,400 --> 01:40:45,240
Like, that's the thing about
this.
1975
01:40:45,280 --> 01:40:49,840
This Oregon and Texas thing is
fascinating because they they
1976
01:40:49,840 --> 01:40:52,320
are showing you what they're
thinking right now because they
1977
01:40:52,320 --> 01:40:57,200
put Ohio State between Oregon
and Texas for a reason.
1978
01:40:57,720 --> 01:41:00,760
If Oregon wins, they are in.
There is no debate.
1979
01:41:00,760 --> 01:41:04,400
They've been ahead of Texas and
every playoff ranking that's
1980
01:41:04,400 --> 01:41:07,120
come out this year.
Oregon wins, they're in,
1981
01:41:07,240 --> 01:41:10,000
Washington wins, They're in.
That is, that is it.
1982
01:41:10,000 --> 01:41:13,800
The team that loses is out.
And the fact that Florida State
1983
01:41:13,800 --> 01:41:17,560
is still at #4, I think I know
they're undefeated, but that
1984
01:41:17,560 --> 01:41:19,680
means we know that they win and
they're in.
1985
01:41:19,880 --> 01:41:21,720
Like, I I don't.
I don't want to hear any
1986
01:41:21,720 --> 01:41:23,960
otherwise that's that's just not
how it's going to go.
1987
01:41:24,320 --> 01:41:27,320
The trickiest thing, and I'm
sorry, I'm running with this
1988
01:41:27,320 --> 01:41:30,280
real quick.
The trickiest thing that could
1989
01:41:30,280 --> 01:41:34,000
happen is Bama beating Georgia,
because that would set
1990
01:41:34,000 --> 01:41:38,400
everything into absolute chaos,
because you can't put Georgia in
1991
01:41:38,400 --> 01:41:40,840
if they're not the conference
champion in my eye, because
1992
01:41:40,840 --> 01:41:42,240
you're going to have an
undefeated Michigan.
1993
01:41:42,240 --> 01:41:44,240
Michigan's going undefeated.
They're not losing Iowa.
1994
01:41:44,240 --> 01:41:47,240
No, they're not Florida State
loses that.
1995
01:41:47,400 --> 01:41:49,600
You know they're going to be out
there not getting in.
1996
01:41:50,080 --> 01:41:53,400
And then you'll have the debate.
The way you can get two SEC
1997
01:41:53,400 --> 01:41:56,720
teams in potentially.
Is Florida State losing and
1998
01:41:56,720 --> 01:42:00,000
Alabama winning.
But just by Georgia losing alone
1999
01:42:00,760 --> 01:42:04,280
and Michigan winning and
Washington or Oregon winning, it
2000
01:42:04,280 --> 01:42:08,960
creates a debate of like, do you
put Texas in, do you put, you
2001
01:42:08,960 --> 01:42:10,560
know, undefeated Florida State
in?
2002
01:42:10,840 --> 01:42:13,520
Do you put Oregon in?
You have to decide between those
2003
01:42:13,520 --> 01:42:16,800
three teams.
And I would be so fascinated as
2004
01:42:16,800 --> 01:42:18,800
to how the committee would go
because I think they would put
2005
01:42:18,800 --> 01:42:23,640
Oregon in over Texas, even if,
which which means guys, there
2006
01:42:23,640 --> 01:42:25,800
would be no SEC team in there.
I know I kind of went in a
2007
01:42:25,800 --> 01:42:30,080
circle, but think about that.
If Bama beats Georgia, it
2008
01:42:30,080 --> 01:42:33,640
threatens the chances of the SEC
getting into the playoff.
2009
01:42:33,920 --> 01:42:35,120
It does.
It does.
2010
01:42:35,720 --> 01:42:38,840
But and and the the big thing
there is that you got that like
2011
01:42:39,120 --> 01:42:43,480
Texas firewall, 'cause if if
Texas wins that that really
2012
01:42:43,480 --> 01:42:46,000
puts.
It's hard to make a case to put
2013
01:42:46,000 --> 01:42:49,320
Bama in over Texas if Texas.
Can't do it.
2014
01:42:49,360 --> 01:42:51,200
You can't.
And yes, Billy Ray, you're out
2015
01:42:51,200 --> 01:42:53,240
there tonight.
You cannot put Alabama in
2016
01:42:53,240 --> 01:42:56,400
because if head to head if a
head to head game in the winter
2017
01:42:56,520 --> 01:42:59,960
has the exact same record as the
other team.
2018
01:43:00,640 --> 01:43:02,800
You then Then why do we play the
games?
2019
01:43:03,000 --> 01:43:05,000
Yes, we don't need to play the
games anymore.
2020
01:43:05,080 --> 01:43:06,880
We can just.
Well, that team's better because
2021
01:43:06,880 --> 01:43:09,200
they're better on paper and
they've had better wins and
2022
01:43:09,480 --> 01:43:12,120
they've looked different.
I don't care that they got on
2023
01:43:12,120 --> 01:43:14,520
the field.
There there's there's too few
2024
01:43:14,520 --> 01:43:17,000
data points to kenpong this
shit.
2025
01:43:17,000 --> 01:43:21,920
Like at some point the games on
the on the field have to matter.
2026
01:43:22,160 --> 01:43:25,510
Yes, you're right, you in.
In basketball, you ignore head
2027
01:43:25,507 --> 01:43:27,400
to head when going to tournament
one because there's so many
2028
01:43:27,400 --> 01:43:30,000
spots, but two, because there's
so many games here, you can't
2029
01:43:30,000 --> 01:43:33,880
ignore it.
And for those that say, OK, Bama
2030
01:43:33,880 --> 01:43:38,440
beats Georgia, Bama will get in,
Texas will get in and you'll
2031
01:43:38,440 --> 01:43:40,360
have.
Michigan.
2032
01:43:40,800 --> 01:43:45,840
Yeah, you'll have Michigan.
The The problem is Oregon has
2033
01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:48,200
been in front of Texas.
They're going to, if they beat
2034
01:43:48,200 --> 01:43:50,880
an undefeated team or if that
undefeated team wins in
2035
01:43:50,880 --> 01:43:53,160
Washington, either one of those
teams is getting in.
2036
01:43:53,360 --> 01:43:56,080
They're not going to jump.
Texas is not going to jump.
2037
01:43:56,080 --> 01:43:58,480
Oregon by beating Oklahoma
State?
2038
01:43:58,600 --> 01:44:01,560
It's not going to happen.
Their only their only chance was
2039
01:44:01,560 --> 01:44:05,120
if Oklahoma got in and then they
could legitimately say we beat
2040
01:44:05,160 --> 01:44:09,120
every team on our schedule.
And unfortunately, with
2041
01:44:09,120 --> 01:44:12,720
Oklahoma, Okie State pulling
that miracle against BYU because
2042
01:44:12,880 --> 01:44:15,000
they shouldn't have won that
game that first half, I was
2043
01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:17,640
keeping an eye on it, that they
shouldn't have won that game.
2044
01:44:17,920 --> 01:44:18,880
All right, well, let's get to
it.
2045
01:44:18,880 --> 01:44:22,400
Let's get to all these games.
Let's start Friday night.
2046
01:44:22,440 --> 01:44:26,760
Let's start Conference USA, New
Mexico State versus Liberty.
2047
01:44:26,760 --> 01:44:29,720
Pete, give us a quick background
on this one and then we'll go
2048
01:44:29,720 --> 01:44:31,120
through the picks.
We'll start.
2049
01:44:31,120 --> 01:44:33,280
Brian's going to start the picks
on this one and we'll go left to
2050
01:44:33,280 --> 01:44:34,640
right.
But Pete, quick background on
2051
01:44:34,640 --> 01:44:38,920
this game and just some Well, we
we got a team that's claiming to
2052
01:44:38,920 --> 01:44:41,800
be the first undefeated regular
season team in Virginia and
2053
01:44:41,800 --> 01:44:44,320
Liberty, you know, which was a
bunch of BS and I couldn't
2054
01:44:44,320 --> 01:44:46,280
believe that that came across my
timeline today.
2055
01:44:46,280 --> 01:44:49,120
But Liberty is 12 and O.
They are 10 point favorites
2056
01:44:49,120 --> 01:44:52,760
against New Mexicans, New Mexico
State who is coached by Jerry
2057
01:44:52,760 --> 01:44:55,080
Kill.
A guy we had in our building, a
2058
01:44:55,080 --> 01:44:58,640
guy we we love and Jamie
Chadwell's on the other side,
2059
01:44:59,000 --> 01:45:03,200
Another fantastic coach.
These teams played Liberty's
2060
01:45:03,200 --> 01:45:07,160
best win, if you go to the Kali
matrix on the year is New Mexico
2061
01:45:07,160 --> 01:45:10,320
State earlier this year, 33 to
17.
2062
01:45:10,320 --> 01:45:12,720
And you know why?
Because Liberty played literally
2063
01:45:12,720 --> 01:45:17,280
the easiest schedule in the
country #133.
2064
01:45:17,880 --> 01:45:20,280
So with a 10 point spread, I'm
taking the fighting.
2065
01:45:20,280 --> 01:45:22,800
Jerry Kills.
I'm taking New Mexico State
2066
01:45:22,800 --> 01:45:25,200
because they have played very,
very well.
2067
01:45:25,440 --> 01:45:28,040
Do you know who they just beat
last weekend, boys?
2068
01:45:29,600 --> 01:45:31,800
That's great about. 3 touchdowns
it.
2069
01:45:32,760 --> 01:45:35,800
Would it was unbelievable.
I'm taking New Mexico State plus
2070
01:45:35,800 --> 01:45:37,160
10.
You know what's crazy?
2071
01:45:37,160 --> 01:45:38,040
I'm going to say this right
quick.
2072
01:45:38,040 --> 01:45:39,960
I know we got to get through
this but.
2073
01:45:40,560 --> 01:45:45,000
Me being here in Alabama and I
see the the rivalry games when
2074
01:45:45,000 --> 01:45:48,680
we talk about the Commonwealth
Cup, Commonwealth Cup and Iron
2075
01:45:48,680 --> 01:45:52,600
Ball and things like that.
It is crazy that Auburn brought
2076
01:45:52,600 --> 01:45:56,680
New Mexico State to their home
and got beat by three thirds and
2077
01:45:56,800 --> 01:46:00,520
then and then played Alabama the
next week and should have beat
2078
01:46:00,520 --> 01:46:04,640
Alabama because that rivalry
means that much to them.
2079
01:46:04,800 --> 01:46:08,800
It doesn't matter if their
records are one in 10 or what.
2080
01:46:09,280 --> 01:46:13,680
That is a true rivalry.
What we do with UVA is is a Big
2081
01:46:13,680 --> 01:46:15,480
Brother, little brother.
That's what I almost said.
2082
01:46:16,120 --> 01:46:17,320
Let's go back to.
That's what it is.
2083
01:46:17,320 --> 01:46:19,320
Now get Dwight in here and have
him talking.
2084
01:46:19,320 --> 01:46:20,800
All right, Brian, let's roll
through.
2085
01:46:20,800 --> 01:46:22,840
We got Pete's pick already.
We'll see it at the end.
2086
01:46:23,720 --> 01:46:26,480
Brian, who you got on this one?
Give me the fight and Jerry
2087
01:46:26,480 --> 01:46:28,800
kills, man.
I'm with you.
2088
01:46:28,800 --> 01:46:32,640
Give me the points.
I think New Mexico State ends
2089
01:46:32,640 --> 01:46:34,160
their season.
I think they win.
2090
01:46:34,600 --> 01:46:37,640
I think, I think investigate
wins and I think because Jerry
2091
01:46:37,640 --> 01:46:40,960
kills a good enough coach and.
You said 3317.
2092
01:46:41,000 --> 01:46:44,240
That's a that's a two touchdown
games are always a little bit
2093
01:46:44,240 --> 01:46:47,160
funky because you know.
It's early in the season, too.
2094
01:46:47,520 --> 01:46:49,120
Early in the season, tally who
you got.
2095
01:46:49,120 --> 01:46:50,520
I'm.
Going to take liberty.
2096
01:46:50,520 --> 01:46:53,480
I know it's hard for a team to
beat, know it's hard for a team
2097
01:46:53,480 --> 01:46:55,480
to beat A-Team twice, but I
think they're going to do it.
2098
01:46:55,640 --> 01:46:57,560
All right, who'd Shelton roll on
this one?
2099
01:46:57,680 --> 01:47:01,280
Shelton's going to Mexico State
here and obviously we got, he's
2100
01:47:01,360 --> 01:47:03,520
got New Mexico State as well.
All righty.
2101
01:47:03,520 --> 01:47:06,640
Let's go Friday night.
PAC 12 in Las Vegas, by the way.
2102
01:47:07,360 --> 01:47:10,160
Would y'all be opposed if we
pulled the ACC championship to
2103
01:47:10,160 --> 01:47:12,600
Las Vegas once Stanford and
everybody joined?
2104
01:47:12,920 --> 01:47:14,520
Not for one year.
I would love it all.
2105
01:47:15,400 --> 01:47:17,560
Right, just making sure.
All right, Pete, what we got on
2106
01:47:17,560 --> 01:47:19,240
this one?
We got Washington, Oregon,
2107
01:47:19,240 --> 01:47:21,840
Oregon.
A 9 1/2 point favorite against
2108
01:47:21,840 --> 01:47:25,160
an undefeated Washington.
Yeah, the line is wild and and
2109
01:47:25,200 --> 01:47:27,880
part of that has to be because
of the close games Washington
2110
01:47:27,880 --> 01:47:30,560
has been playing ever since they
beat Oregon.
2111
01:47:30,680 --> 01:47:34,400
They almost lost to Arizona or
Arizona State the very next week
2112
01:47:35,040 --> 01:47:37,040
and they went to overtime with
Arizona I believe.
2113
01:47:37,040 --> 01:47:39,360
So Pennix doesn't look quite
right.
2114
01:47:40,240 --> 01:47:43,560
They they played a good end of
that game against Washington
2115
01:47:43,560 --> 01:47:46,240
State to survive.
But a few weeks back I said
2116
01:47:46,240 --> 01:47:48,800
Oregon was my best team in the
country.
2117
01:47:49,280 --> 01:47:51,800
Power rankings, my own personal
eye test and stat.
2118
01:47:51,800 --> 01:47:54,680
Looking up I went with Oregon as
my best team in the country.
2119
01:47:54,960 --> 01:47:59,560
I'm not wavering from that.
However, that game was super
2120
01:47:59,560 --> 01:48:02,720
close last time and Washington
won on their own turf.
2121
01:48:02,880 --> 01:48:05,640
I think Washington is good
enough to keep it within the 9
2122
01:48:05,640 --> 01:48:07,440
1/2.
I like Oregon to win.
2123
01:48:07,440 --> 01:48:09,680
Washington cover.
Oregon win.
2124
01:48:09,680 --> 01:48:13,720
Washington cover.
All righty, Sheldon was back.
2125
01:48:14,280 --> 01:48:15,480
Sheldon was right there with
you.
2126
01:48:16,960 --> 01:48:21,600
Same mindset.
I think looking at at what he
2127
01:48:21,600 --> 01:48:25,760
was saying earlier he you know,
it's it's just the that that 9
2128
01:48:25,760 --> 01:48:28,440
1/2 is a little too much even on
a neutral field.
2129
01:48:29,880 --> 01:48:31,880
OK, so.
Tell it who you got.
2130
01:48:32,920 --> 01:48:36,280
I'm going to Oregon, man.
I think that the refs in the
2131
01:48:36,280 --> 01:48:40,040
country wants Bo Dick, Bo, Bo
Nicks.
2132
01:48:41,600 --> 01:48:43,160
Bo who?
Bo.
2133
01:48:43,440 --> 01:48:47,440
Bo Dicks.
Yeah, they definitely.
2134
01:48:47,880 --> 01:48:51,880
They want him to be the Heisman.
I mean, they have been raving
2135
01:48:51,880 --> 01:48:54,240
about Bo Nicks.
So if it's an opportunity for
2136
01:48:54,240 --> 01:48:57,320
Oregon to win and Oregon to win
big, this is going to be his
2137
01:48:57,320 --> 01:49:01,800
Heisman moment and the line
stinks and Tally's diving into
2138
01:49:01,800 --> 01:49:06,320
the stink.
Fatally, Fatally.
2139
01:49:06,640 --> 01:49:09,160
You see he and I'm not saying
that to be mean because Tally
2140
01:49:09,160 --> 01:49:10,440
said it a bunch of times during
the.
2141
01:49:10,440 --> 01:49:11,720
Course.
Oh yeah, No, no, no.
2142
01:49:11,960 --> 01:49:14,920
You do not put money on what I'm
telling you.
2143
01:49:15,720 --> 01:49:18,520
It does not work out, is it?
All righty here.
2144
01:49:18,960 --> 01:49:23,760
This is not gambling advice.
I think 9 1/2 is just too big
2145
01:49:23,760 --> 01:49:27,240
because like you said Pete, that
first game literally was a down
2146
01:49:27,240 --> 01:49:29,360
to the end.
I'll I've watched the end of it
2147
01:49:29,360 --> 01:49:32,840
here probably.
Were you over for that game?
2148
01:49:33,120 --> 01:49:34,800
Why did I feel like you came
over for that game?
2149
01:49:35,680 --> 01:49:37,640
Maybe.
Regardless, maybe you did.
2150
01:49:37,920 --> 01:49:39,960
But I will say this, Curtis, I
know you're going to make your
2151
01:49:39,960 --> 01:49:42,600
pick, but I will say this.
Y'all need to think.
2152
01:49:43,440 --> 01:49:45,520
They they lost that game because
of coaching.
2153
01:49:45,680 --> 01:49:49,240
They didn't know it's true.
There were some court down calls
2154
01:49:49,240 --> 01:49:51,680
in that game that were.
Screwed up, Yeah, there.
2155
01:49:51,800 --> 01:49:55,000
Was a lot of calls in that game.
So anyway, go ahead.
2156
01:49:55,000 --> 01:49:56,720
Kurt Well, I don't think
Washington wins.
2157
01:49:56,760 --> 01:50:00,520
I think this is where we start
to see a little of the the CFP
2158
01:50:00,520 --> 01:50:03,600
playoff chaos.
I think Washington's good
2159
01:50:03,600 --> 01:50:06,000
enough, like with UPI think
they're good enough to keep it
2160
01:50:06,000 --> 01:50:08,960
within 9 1/2.
It's probably a touchdown win
2161
01:50:09,440 --> 01:50:12,720
for Oregon, so I'm going
Washington.
2162
01:50:13,120 --> 01:50:17,360
When Spread Oregon Takes it
money line Ziegler.
2163
01:50:18,040 --> 01:50:20,280
I'm right there with everybody
here on the panel except for
2164
01:50:20,280 --> 01:50:22,840
Tally.
Wow, pretty.
2165
01:50:25,320 --> 01:50:27,000
Good.
You know what he's doing.
2166
01:50:27,040 --> 01:50:32,160
What he's supposed to?
Do you know when when I look at
2167
01:50:32,160 --> 01:50:35,520
it, the line is just a little,
little, little funky for me,
2168
01:50:36,640 --> 01:50:39,640
that's a little too much to lay.
You know, I think it like Curtis
2169
01:50:39,640 --> 01:50:42,640
said, it's going to be about a
76 point.
2170
01:50:43,200 --> 01:50:45,560
Oregon victory.
But that 9 1/2 is just too much
2171
01:50:45,560 --> 01:50:47,000
for my blood.
So much.
2172
01:50:47,000 --> 01:50:50,760
And this is de facto playoff
game because winner is going to
2173
01:50:50,760 --> 01:50:53,800
the playoff.
Yeah, yeah, there's really,
2174
01:50:54,000 --> 01:50:56,320
there's no drama here in in
terms of the playoff.
2175
01:50:56,320 --> 01:50:59,080
It doesn't really shake anything
up, except maybe the seating.
2176
01:51:00,040 --> 01:51:02,000
The winner of this is is is a
playoff team.
2177
01:51:02,800 --> 01:51:05,440
All righty.
Here's what we got next.
2178
01:51:05,440 --> 01:51:08,480
We've got the Mack matching.
I wish they would do.
2179
01:51:08,600 --> 01:51:10,280
I wish they would do this game
on a Wednesday night.
2180
01:51:10,880 --> 01:51:15,680
Honest to God I wish they would.
But we've got Miami of Ohio and
2181
01:51:15,680 --> 01:51:17,960
Toledo Y'all these are actually
two good teams.
2182
01:51:17,960 --> 01:51:21,440
Miami of Ohio 10 and two.
Toledo 11 and one.
2183
01:51:21,440 --> 01:51:26,320
I didn't realize that as y'all
see we got a line of 7 1/2
2184
01:51:26,320 --> 01:51:29,200
Toledo favorite Pete.
What are we seeing on this game?
2185
01:51:29,240 --> 01:51:33,440
And is Jason Candle a candidate
anywhere from for for head
2186
01:51:33,480 --> 01:51:35,280
coaching Guy?
You know I feel like Jason
2187
01:51:35,280 --> 01:51:41,520
Candle has been a candidate for
about seven years and and Toledo
2188
01:51:41,520 --> 01:51:45,720
in the Mack is at resources and
facilities advantage.
2189
01:51:45,720 --> 01:51:50,160
They always seem to be one of
the best three teams in the Mack
2190
01:51:50,160 --> 01:51:52,480
and it's for good reason they
they put the investment into
2191
01:51:52,480 --> 01:51:56,280
football.
Toledo 11 straight wins.
2192
01:51:56,640 --> 01:52:00,320
Their only loss was the first
game of the season to Illinois.
2193
01:52:01,080 --> 01:52:03,280
They both played absolutely
terrible schedules.
2194
01:52:03,280 --> 01:52:06,240
So like Toledo, we talked about
Liberty schedule.
2195
01:52:06,240 --> 01:52:09,000
I think Toledo has like the
second easiest schedule in the
2196
01:52:09,000 --> 01:52:11,600
country.
But they did beat San Jose
2197
01:52:11,600 --> 01:52:14,640
State, who some people think
should be in the Mountain West.
2198
01:52:14,640 --> 01:52:17,440
We'll get there, but that was a
good quality win.
2199
01:52:19,280 --> 01:52:24,520
They're coming in Hot 7 1/2.
I'm going to take Daquan Finn,
2200
01:52:24,760 --> 01:52:27,360
Pat's brother, and I think
they're going to get, they're
2201
01:52:27,360 --> 01:52:30,760
going to get the win and cover
Toledo.
2202
01:52:30,760 --> 01:52:32,320
I'm taking he.
Takes Toledo.
2203
01:52:32,360 --> 01:52:37,120
Brian, what about you?
Yeah, I, I, I'm riding the
2204
01:52:37,120 --> 01:52:39,960
Toledo Rockets here, baby.
Let's go.
2205
01:52:40,480 --> 01:52:41,680
All righty.
I I'm going to.
2206
01:52:41,680 --> 01:52:43,720
Ride the Toledo Rocket.
It's better to ride in the Red
2207
01:52:43,720 --> 01:52:46,760
Rocket.
I won't take Toledo as well.
2208
01:52:46,760 --> 01:52:48,240
First game was a four point
game.
2209
01:52:48,240 --> 01:52:52,040
I think Toledo is the better
team overall and I think they, I
2210
01:52:52,040 --> 01:52:53,840
think they win the game going
away.
2211
01:52:53,880 --> 01:52:58,640
I think it's going to be not
going to be as close, but you
2212
01:52:58,640 --> 01:53:02,760
know, what do I know, Tally?
I'm going to take Toledo on this
2213
01:53:02,760 --> 01:53:04,120
and you know I want to get on
Y'all's team.
2214
01:53:04,120 --> 01:53:05,760
Y'all seem to pick a little bit
better than me.
2215
01:53:06,200 --> 01:53:08,360
Toledo has a good running back.
I think that running back's got
2216
01:53:08,360 --> 01:53:11,560
about 1400 yards.
He's averaging like 8 yards a
2217
01:53:11,560 --> 01:53:15,160
carry, maybe like 15 touchdowns.
So I'm going to go, I'm going to
2218
01:53:15,160 --> 01:53:17,920
go with Toledo on this, just
because I've watched him play
2219
01:53:17,920 --> 01:53:20,440
and he looks good.
Toledo's across the board, which
2220
01:53:20,440 --> 01:53:21,880
means Miami's going to win out,
right?
2221
01:53:23,800 --> 01:53:26,920
Did did Shelton go with us?
Oh yeah, everybody's riding
2222
01:53:26,920 --> 01:53:28,320
Toledo.
Toledo We were riding the rock.
2223
01:53:28,400 --> 01:53:30,640
To the moon, baby.
To the moon.
2224
01:53:30,680 --> 01:53:32,480
High noon.
All right, let's flip it.
2225
01:53:32,480 --> 01:53:34,920
Next, let's go to the Big 12.
We already hit on this a little
2226
01:53:34,920 --> 01:53:37,880
bit.
Beat Texas laying 14 1/2 in Okie
2227
01:53:37,880 --> 01:53:39,520
State.
And then again, in my opinion,
2228
01:53:39,520 --> 01:53:42,040
Okie State shouldn't beat BYU.
Last week I watched that game.
2229
01:53:42,040 --> 01:53:45,000
They really shouldn't have.
But what are we looking at here
2230
01:53:45,360 --> 01:53:47,200
Pete?
You got a nine and three, OK?
2231
01:53:47,200 --> 01:53:51,240
State team that is only lost in
the last eight games was that
2232
01:53:51,880 --> 01:53:55,320
beat down at the hands of UCF in
the let down spot after the
2233
01:53:55,320 --> 01:53:58,120
Oklahoma game.
So I'll forgive them a bit for
2234
01:53:58,120 --> 01:54:00,840
going to Florida after Oklahoma
and getting beat in the rain.
2235
01:54:01,240 --> 01:54:06,040
But as you saw last week against
BYU, that team does not give up
2236
01:54:06,080 --> 01:54:08,600
easily.
They Ollie Gordon has been a
2237
01:54:08,600 --> 01:54:12,920
revelation for them ever since
that 19 yard game against South
2238
01:54:12,920 --> 01:54:15,440
Alabama.
I I don't know what got into OK
2239
01:54:15,440 --> 01:54:18,600
State.
Gundy found a way and I'm going
2240
01:54:18,600 --> 01:54:20,160
to take them to cover that 12
points.
2241
01:54:21,520 --> 01:54:23,440
All right.
He's got them covering.
2242
01:54:24,760 --> 01:54:28,560
What's Shelton?
Got Shelton is riding with OSU
2243
01:54:28,560 --> 01:54:32,000
as well.
Tally, what you got?
2244
01:54:32,800 --> 01:54:35,280
I called Pete before the show
and I called Shelton before the
2245
01:54:35,280 --> 01:54:39,080
show and they are very smart, so
I just picked what they picked.
2246
01:54:40,240 --> 01:54:41,920
All righty.
So I must be the idiot over
2247
01:54:41,920 --> 01:54:45,040
here, then, because I think
Texas knows it has to make a
2248
01:54:45,040 --> 01:54:46,760
statement.
Pete, you you've said it three
2249
01:54:46,760 --> 01:54:48,880
or four times.
Really.
2250
01:54:48,960 --> 01:54:50,960
I said that.
I thought you did.
2251
01:54:53,640 --> 01:54:54,640
Did you?
Where I got it wrong?
2252
01:54:54,640 --> 01:54:55,520
Did.
I get it wrong.
2253
01:54:55,520 --> 01:54:57,400
I don't know.
Shit.
2254
01:54:57,400 --> 01:55:02,000
I don't know.
What do you like about Texas
2255
01:55:02,000 --> 01:55:04,160
though, Brian Curtis?
Finish your thought.
2256
01:55:04,480 --> 01:55:07,080
Because no one here and just
saying it's more of the spot
2257
01:55:07,080 --> 01:55:11,320
they're in, I think Texas knows
they have to put an ungodly beat
2258
01:55:11,320 --> 01:55:14,200
down on Okie State because you
keep saying they can't jump
2259
01:55:14,200 --> 01:55:15,520
Oregon.
I have a question.
2260
01:55:15,720 --> 01:55:21,240
They go out there and beat Okie
State by 5 touchdowns 40. 4914
2261
01:55:22,040 --> 01:55:23,080
and then you look at their
resume.
2262
01:55:23,200 --> 01:55:25,880
Well, the only team they lost to
was A10 win Oklahoma team.
2263
01:55:26,000 --> 01:55:29,000
They went to Tuscaloosa.
They handled Alabama with these.
2264
01:55:29,440 --> 01:55:31,560
Why shouldn't we put this team
in the playoff?
2265
01:55:32,600 --> 01:55:34,960
Yeah, And.
And that's that's a good
2266
01:55:34,960 --> 01:55:36,280
argument.
And you know what?
2267
01:55:36,280 --> 01:55:38,640
They tried to make that
statement last week against
2268
01:55:38,640 --> 01:55:39,360
Texas Tech.
When?
2269
01:55:39,360 --> 01:55:42,280
They oh, they did make sense.
But you know what?
2270
01:55:42,280 --> 01:55:46,960
It didn't work because they're
still six, behind Ohio State and
2271
01:55:47,120 --> 01:55:48,560
and Oregon.
Let me tell you how they're
2272
01:55:48,560 --> 01:55:51,720
going to get in.
If Alabama beats Georgia,
2273
01:55:51,960 --> 01:55:54,840
they're going to throw Texas in
because they need the big name
2274
01:55:55,120 --> 01:55:59,320
That and that's that's correct.
That is Texas's avenue to get
2275
01:55:59,320 --> 01:56:02,000
into the playoff is they need
Bama to win that.
2276
01:56:02,640 --> 01:56:05,840
They could beat Oklahoma State
by 60 points.
2277
01:56:05,840 --> 01:56:07,760
They're not getting in unless
Bama beats Georgia.
2278
01:56:07,920 --> 01:56:10,360
There you go.
Good point, Brian.
2279
01:56:12,200 --> 01:56:14,320
I did.
Confirm that you sent OS.
2280
01:56:14,320 --> 01:56:17,960
UI did send OSU, but I don't
know that I was trying to do
2281
01:56:17,960 --> 01:56:19,480
this quickly today.
So.
2282
01:56:20,000 --> 01:56:21,320
You know what?
That's all right.
2283
01:56:22,480 --> 01:56:26,560
I like Texas to win this, but 14
1/2 is a little funky for me, so
2284
01:56:26,560 --> 01:56:29,360
I'm going to OSU here.
All righty, We're going to go
2285
01:56:29,360 --> 01:56:32,320
out to the Mountain West next
again, we're going in
2286
01:56:32,320 --> 01:56:34,360
subsequential order.
So the the, the way you see
2287
01:56:34,360 --> 01:56:37,120
these games, the way they're
coming out, I believe this is on
2288
01:56:37,120 --> 01:56:40,320
CBS Sports Network and it's
going to be like a three, three
2289
01:56:40,320 --> 01:56:42,800
or 4:00 kick.
Pete, you got a little
2290
01:56:42,920 --> 01:56:46,960
interesting behind this one
about maybe one of these teams
2291
01:56:46,960 --> 01:56:50,840
shouldn't be here.
Well, the Mountain West decides
2292
01:56:51,160 --> 01:56:52,800
when there's a tie in the
standings.
2293
01:56:52,800 --> 01:56:55,440
They decide who goes to the
championship game by computer
2294
01:56:55,440 --> 01:56:57,920
rankings using one of the
computer rankings.
2295
01:56:57,920 --> 01:57:01,040
I like the best in the Collie
matrix and they decided that
2296
01:57:01,200 --> 01:57:05,840
Boise State and UNLV should
should go at it and UNLV just
2297
01:57:05,840 --> 01:57:09,760
lost to San Jose State.
And yet they are.
2298
01:57:09,800 --> 01:57:12,480
They are the ones that are in
because they have a better
2299
01:57:12,480 --> 01:57:15,400
overall record at 9:00 and 3:00,
Boise State at 7:00 and 5:00.
2300
01:57:15,400 --> 01:57:18,880
A-Team that fired their coach is
also in.
2301
01:57:19,000 --> 01:57:21,320
Think about that.
If I hired their coach mid
2302
01:57:21,320 --> 01:57:24,200
season and they are in the
championship game and guess what
2303
01:57:24,880 --> 01:57:27,320
I like them to win outright.
Like, yeah, I'll take them
2304
01:57:27,320 --> 01:57:28,520
against.
I'll.
2305
01:57:28,800 --> 01:57:30,560
Well, actually they're favored.
They're, they're two point
2306
01:57:30,560 --> 01:57:33,200
favorites, right.
So I'll take Boise to lay the
2307
01:57:33,200 --> 01:57:35,280
points with Boise.
But what a season for.
2308
01:57:35,280 --> 01:57:39,120
I do want to mention Barry Odom
and UNLV because that program
2309
01:57:39,120 --> 01:57:42,800
has been in the dumps for a long
time and Perry Onum as a
2310
01:57:42,800 --> 01:57:44,280
straight up good coach there
was.
2311
01:57:44,600 --> 01:57:46,960
There's that one point where we
thought we might get him as our
2312
01:57:46,960 --> 01:57:50,040
defensive coordinator.
I think it didn't quite happen
2313
01:57:50,040 --> 01:57:57,480
that way, but UNLV had not won
nine games since 1984 and so
2314
01:57:57,680 --> 01:58:00,880
good, good for UNLV.
It's going to be a fun game.
2315
01:58:01,640 --> 01:58:03,360
I think Boise State gets the win
though.
2316
01:58:05,360 --> 01:58:08,880
All righty, Pete's got Boise
State on this one, Brian, who do
2317
01:58:08,880 --> 01:58:12,240
you got?
I'm going to preface this with I
2318
01:58:12,240 --> 01:58:17,240
think that we should be seeing
another team in here as Pete
2319
01:58:17,240 --> 01:58:22,840
alluded to, but shout out to DJ
Harvey out there in San Jose
2320
01:58:22,840 --> 01:58:27,480
State.
Yeah, so, but since that's not
2321
01:58:27,480 --> 01:58:29,440
what we got, I'm going to UNLV
here.
2322
01:58:29,440 --> 01:58:30,920
I think.
I think Barry Odom is going to
2323
01:58:30,920 --> 01:58:34,640
get them up for this game.
I think they aren't the best
2324
01:58:34,640 --> 01:58:37,600
team on paper, but I think that
they're going to.
2325
01:58:37,760 --> 01:58:41,320
Play play above their skis a
little bit and and and pull off
2326
01:58:41,320 --> 01:58:43,920
a victory here against Boise.
I'm with you.
2327
01:58:44,120 --> 01:58:45,640
Give me the Give me that little
two.
2328
01:58:45,720 --> 01:58:49,280
I'll take UNLV as well.
And all the old food crew out
2329
01:58:49,280 --> 01:58:53,520
there, and you know Odom and
Vance Vice and who else is out
2330
01:58:53,520 --> 01:58:55,040
there.
There's there's a few other ones
2331
01:58:55,040 --> 01:58:58,560
out there right from the
Shotbusters out there.
2332
01:58:58,920 --> 01:59:00,280
Is he really?
Shotbusters.
2333
01:59:00,280 --> 01:59:01,960
A special teams coordinator out
there.
2334
01:59:01,960 --> 01:59:06,680
So yeah, some of the old, some
of the old Tech coaches who you
2335
01:59:06,680 --> 01:59:09,320
got Tally?
Because they got old tech
2336
01:59:09,320 --> 01:59:11,920
coaches out there.
I did not pick them.
2337
01:59:13,240 --> 01:59:17,600
Boise State Boise State Later 2
Shelton.
2338
01:59:17,600 --> 01:59:23,000
Says Shelton, Says Boise.
Shelton says Boise.
2339
01:59:23,000 --> 01:59:25,640
And we got Pete saying Boise.
All right, next one.
2340
01:59:26,040 --> 01:59:31,640
Let's go to Atlanta 430 kick
Georgia, Alabama, Georgia.
2341
01:59:31,640 --> 01:59:37,040
The -6 favorite here.
My one of my old bosses saw her
2342
01:59:37,040 --> 01:59:39,280
today at work.
She's a huge Georgia fan.
2343
01:59:39,280 --> 01:59:43,000
She's heading down to Atlanta to
watch the game this weekend.
2344
01:59:43,280 --> 01:59:48,720
So what do we got here on this
one, Pete, That if you know
2345
01:59:49,000 --> 01:59:50,800
there, there's a couple key
things about this.
2346
01:59:50,800 --> 01:59:53,880
So these teams have obviously
been the two best teams in the
2347
01:59:53,880 --> 01:59:59,480
SEC over the past decade, yet
they have not matched up a ton
2348
01:59:59,480 --> 02:00:02,600
of times in the championship
game and in Georgia's recent
2349
02:00:02,600 --> 02:00:04,920
success.
They have yet to beat Alabama in
2350
02:00:04,920 --> 02:00:06,840
this game.
In fact, they've never beaten
2351
02:00:06,840 --> 02:00:09,960
Alabama in this game.
Since the SE CS inception in
2352
02:00:09,960 --> 02:00:13,600
1992, Georgia has four titles.
It's Arkansas, it's LSU.
2353
02:00:13,600 --> 02:00:18,920
It's Auburn, and it's LSU again.
Can Georgia beat Bama for the
2354
02:00:18,920 --> 02:00:24,440
SEC title?
I think they should and they
2355
02:00:24,440 --> 02:00:27,160
will win.
But I like the six points.
2356
02:00:27,200 --> 02:00:29,440
I I think Will Millroe can do
enough.
2357
02:00:29,640 --> 02:00:33,560
I think he's developed enough
for them to be competitive and
2358
02:00:33,560 --> 02:00:36,760
that Bama defense is for real.
They're they're going to show
2359
02:00:36,760 --> 02:00:38,920
Carson Beck some things he
hasn't seen this year.
2360
02:00:39,080 --> 02:00:43,280
Carson Beck has been great down
the stretch, really, really good
2361
02:00:43,520 --> 02:00:45,440
development out of the
quarterback from Georgia
2362
02:00:45,440 --> 02:00:47,320
throughout the year.
But I think Bama is going to
2363
02:00:47,320 --> 02:00:49,680
slow them down a little bit and
I think Bama is going to be able
2364
02:00:49,680 --> 02:00:52,840
to cover.
But I think Georgia is going to
2365
02:00:52,840 --> 02:00:55,640
get the win to finish another
season undefeated.
2366
02:00:56,360 --> 02:00:58,640
All righty, who's Shelton laying
on this one?
2367
02:00:59,560 --> 02:01:02,560
Riding with Georgia.
Riding with Georgia Tally, This
2368
02:01:02,560 --> 02:01:05,160
is a tough one for you.
Hey, can y'all hear me Good.
2369
02:01:05,160 --> 02:01:07,600
I've got my microphone up so
everybody can hear this.
2370
02:01:08,080 --> 02:01:13,680
Georgia is going to win this
game because if they do not win,
2371
02:01:13,920 --> 02:01:17,360
you may not see ASCC team in the
playoffs.
2372
02:01:18,120 --> 02:01:20,680
They are not going to let that
happen.
2373
02:01:21,600 --> 02:01:24,920
They will not.
There will be refs putting on
2374
02:01:24,920 --> 02:01:28,680
uniforms and playing.
Georgia's going to win this
2375
02:01:28,760 --> 02:01:31,360
game.
I'm taking Georgia just because
2376
02:01:31,360 --> 02:01:33,320
I had to see Georgia's logo up
here.
2377
02:01:33,760 --> 02:01:38,080
But if I if I'm betting, I'm
definitely putting money on
2378
02:01:38,080 --> 02:01:40,880
Georgia money line because
Georgia's winning this game
2379
02:01:41,040 --> 02:01:45,280
because again it gets too funky.
If Alabama wins, if Alabama
2380
02:01:45,280 --> 02:01:48,320
beats Georgia in this game and
then you have to go into.
2381
02:01:49,000 --> 02:01:52,240
Thinking about a playoff without
ASCC team in?
2382
02:01:53,520 --> 02:01:55,280
They'll burn it down.
They don't know what are we
2383
02:01:55,280 --> 02:01:58,000
going to do.
We may not be we there's if if
2384
02:01:58,000 --> 02:02:01,200
that happens, there's not going
to be an NCAA Football game
2385
02:02:01,200 --> 02:02:04,040
coming out.
So all of you gamers, you might
2386
02:02:04,040 --> 02:02:07,160
as well throw it away.
There's going to be people
2387
02:02:07,160 --> 02:02:10,360
that's going to be petitioning
outside of the college playoffs
2388
02:02:10,360 --> 02:02:12,280
that says Michael Vick was
fighting dogs.
2389
02:02:12,720 --> 02:02:16,320
It's going to be chaos.
If that happens, I'm telling you
2390
02:02:16,320 --> 02:02:19,680
right now, Georgia's going to
win because they want to get
2391
02:02:19,680 --> 02:02:22,640
ASCC team in there.
And if Alabama wins, it's going
2392
02:02:22,640 --> 02:02:26,520
to be too tricky for them to put
like if if Alabama wins, they
2393
02:02:26,520 --> 02:02:29,720
have to put two teams in there
and they can't put two teams in
2394
02:02:29,720 --> 02:02:33,560
there unless everybody loses.
That's just my opinion.
2395
02:02:33,880 --> 02:02:35,280
I'd say it's a good way to
point.
2396
02:02:35,680 --> 02:02:40,960
I'm I'm with Tally on this one
that Georgia has to win this
2397
02:02:40,960 --> 02:02:44,520
game and I think.
Six is the line, right?
2398
02:02:45,120 --> 02:02:47,600
Funky, funky plays can happen at
end of games.
2399
02:02:47,600 --> 02:02:50,560
We saw that last weekend with
the Alabama game, right?
2400
02:02:51,120 --> 02:02:55,360
Georgia wins by 10 because it
ain't gonna be no funky play at
2401
02:02:55,360 --> 02:02:59,240
the end of the game for Alabama
this time.
2402
02:02:59,240 --> 02:03:01,400
I like a pick based on a
conspiracy theory, though.
2403
02:03:01,400 --> 02:03:04,440
Tally, I appreciate that.
Yes.
2404
02:03:04,880 --> 02:03:08,680
There we go.
I'm, I'm riding with.
2405
02:03:08,920 --> 02:03:12,760
I'm round with Georgia too.
Pete you are the the the lone
2406
02:03:13,960 --> 02:03:16,720
hey look, I mean I think these
teams.
2407
02:03:17,160 --> 02:03:18,680
I think Georgia's got a little
too much love.
2408
02:03:18,840 --> 02:03:20,720
Both of these teams struggled
last week.
2409
02:03:20,720 --> 02:03:23,480
You wouldn't.
I know Georgia SAT they didn't
2410
02:03:23,480 --> 02:03:27,160
have a couple of their better
players but like Georgia Tech by
2411
02:03:27,160 --> 02:03:28,960
8.
What what are you doing messing
2412
02:03:28,960 --> 02:03:32,720
around with Georgia Tech by 8.
I know Bama almost lost, but
2413
02:03:32,720 --> 02:03:34,760
that's at least a rivalry like
Georgia.
2414
02:03:34,800 --> 02:03:37,120
Georgia Tech.
Like I know is good old
2415
02:03:37,120 --> 02:03:37,840
fashioned.
Hate.
2416
02:03:37,960 --> 02:03:38,840
Georgia Tech.
Sucks.
2417
02:03:39,200 --> 02:03:40,720
Come on.
There you go.
2418
02:03:41,000 --> 02:03:42,880
Yeah.
I mean, at this point, I mean,
2419
02:03:43,360 --> 02:03:47,600
Georgia, Georgia Tech is very
much Virginia Tech, UVA, right?
2420
02:03:47,680 --> 02:03:49,640
Yeah.
It's been it's been dead for 20
2421
02:03:49,640 --> 02:03:51,040
plus years.
Yeah, they'll they'll, they'll,
2422
02:03:51,200 --> 02:03:52,840
they'll scrape one here or
there.
2423
02:03:53,480 --> 02:03:55,480
That's competitive.
But it's so I'm willing to
2424
02:03:55,520 --> 02:03:59,320
forgive Bama's performance more
than I am Georgia's.
2425
02:03:59,320 --> 02:04:02,000
And Georgia has had close calls
against Auburn earlier in the
2426
02:04:02,000 --> 02:04:03,960
year there.
They Mizzou.
2427
02:04:04,320 --> 02:04:08,240
Mizzou was the tight one.
South Carolina was a lot tighter
2428
02:04:08,240 --> 02:04:09,400
than it should have.
Been like.
2429
02:04:09,640 --> 02:04:12,080
I was going to say Georgia's
been playing with the food all.
2430
02:04:12,200 --> 02:04:13,280
All year.
So is Bama though.
2431
02:04:14,480 --> 02:04:17,280
I mean they got, I mean you say
what you want, they got smacked
2432
02:04:17,280 --> 02:04:19,920
by Texas.
They got smacked at home And
2433
02:04:19,920 --> 02:04:23,160
then the USF game, we were
sitting up, that was during the
2434
02:04:23,160 --> 02:04:24,960
Rutgers weekend.
One that Brian, when I came up
2435
02:04:24,960 --> 02:04:27,880
to your house and we were like.
What are they doing?
2436
02:04:27,920 --> 02:04:30,480
Like this is USA.
Well, they they had a shadow,
2437
02:04:30,480 --> 02:04:32,480
they had a shadow ban on Milro
that game.
2438
02:04:32,480 --> 02:04:34,720
They didn't play them and there
there was, there was some kind
2439
02:04:34,720 --> 02:04:38,040
of suspension going on there and
I thought that Milro has
2440
02:04:38,040 --> 02:04:43,720
developed better since since
that that game you mentioned.
2441
02:04:44,480 --> 02:04:47,280
No, the problem that they had
that game is that the boosters
2442
02:04:47,280 --> 02:04:49,480
and the fans.
Were telling Nick Saban how to
2443
02:04:49,480 --> 02:04:50,960
coach.
So he said, well, let me show
2444
02:04:50,960 --> 02:04:53,000
you that I know more than you
guys do.
2445
02:04:53,200 --> 02:04:55,160
And he put those other
quarterbacks in and they suck.
2446
02:04:56,240 --> 02:04:59,000
They were horrible.
And they also were playing in
2447
02:04:59,000 --> 02:05:01,640
like a hurricane.
So it was a lot going on down.
2448
02:05:01,640 --> 02:05:04,720
Now since then we've seen what
they've done.
2449
02:05:05,160 --> 02:05:06,360
They're still going to lose
Saturday all.
2450
02:05:06,680 --> 02:05:11,560
Right, we got the AAC packs.
SM Future ACC member SMU versus
2451
02:05:11,560 --> 02:05:15,480
Tulane, Tulane Lane 5 1/2 points
Another good game.
2452
02:05:15,480 --> 02:05:18,480
Tulane 11 and one SMU 10 and
two.
2453
02:05:19,400 --> 02:05:24,280
Any back on this one Pete?
Yeah, well SMU is 4th nationally
2454
02:05:24,600 --> 02:05:27,440
in points per game.
They have been throwing up
2455
02:05:27,440 --> 02:05:29,680
points at 69 points a couple
weeks ago.
2456
02:05:30,080 --> 02:05:33,280
Nice.
But the thing, the thing about
2457
02:05:33,280 --> 02:05:40,360
SMU is their two losses are too
TCU and Oklahoma 2P, five teams.
2458
02:05:40,400 --> 02:05:44,240
TCU is not very good.
And so my kind of thing with SMU
2459
02:05:44,240 --> 02:05:48,840
is that they're like AG5 version
of Virginia Tech.
2460
02:05:48,840 --> 02:05:51,880
Yeah, they will beat the crap
out of some bad teams, but when
2461
02:05:51,880 --> 02:05:54,600
they go up against anybody
decent, they lose.
2462
02:05:55,080 --> 02:05:58,040
And so I think Tulane's going to
win the win the ball game.
2463
02:05:58,560 --> 02:06:02,200
And Tulane, despite struggling
against ECU and a couple other
2464
02:06:02,200 --> 02:06:06,760
guys, I just think Tulane finds
a way and I think they're going
2465
02:06:06,760 --> 02:06:08,200
to be able to win the game by 6
points.
2466
02:06:08,200 --> 02:06:13,080
So I'm going to take Tulane.
All right, Pete's got Tulane.
2467
02:06:13,320 --> 02:06:14,720
Brian, who do you got in this
one?
2468
02:06:15,520 --> 02:06:18,040
I'm riding with Tulane as well.
I think they're going to put it,
2469
02:06:18,040 --> 02:06:22,160
put it together in this one.
As Pete said, SMU has struggled
2470
02:06:22,160 --> 02:06:25,680
against quality competition.
I would consider Tulane a
2471
02:06:25,920 --> 02:06:29,920
quality opponent, so I'm going
to go with Tulane here.
2472
02:06:31,280 --> 02:06:34,680
All righty.
I'm going to go different than
2473
02:06:34,680 --> 02:06:35,520
y'all.
I think.
2474
02:06:35,520 --> 02:06:38,880
I think Tulane's going to win
the game, but I think 5 1/2, as
2475
02:06:38,880 --> 02:06:41,760
good as the SMU offense is,
they'll get some points.
2476
02:06:41,760 --> 02:06:44,600
They're going to give up some
points and I think it's it's
2477
02:06:44,600 --> 02:06:47,360
what every time I see a line
like this, I think it's like
2478
02:06:47,640 --> 02:06:51,200
it's a 10 point lead.
The great offense scores with
2479
02:06:51,200 --> 02:06:56,200
six seconds left and they get
the back door cover and like,
2480
02:06:56,200 --> 02:06:58,880
oh, this is a really good game.
And like, Nah, they scored with
2481
02:06:59,080 --> 02:07:00,920
six seconds left.
They had no chance to actually
2482
02:07:00,920 --> 02:07:06,400
win this game tally.
I was cutting out.
2483
02:07:06,560 --> 02:07:09,240
I missed half of what you said
S.
2484
02:07:09,360 --> 02:07:12,120
MUSMU because they got offense
and they going to be able to at
2485
02:07:12,120 --> 02:07:15,040
least score some points.
I'm going to take two lane on
2486
02:07:15,040 --> 02:07:16,240
this man.
I'm going to take two lane
2487
02:07:16,240 --> 02:07:20,560
because I'm pretty sure that SM
US quarterback that threw for
2488
02:07:20,560 --> 02:07:24,960
like 3200 yards is hurt.
So he's out.
2489
02:07:24,960 --> 02:07:27,200
That's a big bulk of their
offense.
2490
02:07:27,200 --> 02:07:31,000
He threw for like, I don't know,
26 touchdowns and not very many
2491
02:07:31,000 --> 02:07:34,160
picks, so.
I'm going to take Tulane because
2492
02:07:34,160 --> 02:07:40,120
they're SMU signal callers down.
All righty, we got Sheldon Peaks
2493
02:07:40,160 --> 02:07:42,320
rolling up there.
I would.
2494
02:07:42,400 --> 02:07:44,280
I just want to .1 thing out
before we move on to the
2495
02:07:44,280 --> 02:07:47,440
Sunbelt.
It's just that Tulane is having
2496
02:07:47,440 --> 02:07:51,040
their starting quarterback play
against Ole Miss away from being
2497
02:07:51,040 --> 02:07:53,560
undefeated.
Like Pratt did not play against
2498
02:07:53,560 --> 02:07:57,200
Ole Miss, and if he plays in
that game, there's a good shot.
2499
02:07:57,200 --> 02:07:59,080
Tulane is undefeated going into
this.
2500
02:07:59,520 --> 02:08:02,000
By the way, it's a good thing.
This is, This is why we needed
2501
02:08:02,000 --> 02:08:06,080
12, because a team like Tulane
deserves to be in the playoff.
2502
02:08:07,560 --> 02:08:10,760
I mean they've done the last two
years and and like this and I
2503
02:08:10,760 --> 02:08:12,840
was saying something and we're
going to go off topic and y'all
2504
02:08:12,840 --> 02:08:16,440
know I got to pull myself back.
But is this not the year it
2505
02:08:16,440 --> 02:08:19,200
should have been 12 teams.
There's no one dominant power.
2506
02:08:19,200 --> 02:08:22,560
We pulled it up there and you
look and say there's
2507
02:08:22,560 --> 02:08:26,000
legitimately. 11 or 12 teams
that if they got hot and they
2508
02:08:26,000 --> 02:08:29,240
played their game, they could
beat every other team that's in
2509
02:08:29,240 --> 02:08:32,160
front of them.
Let's hope that happens next
2510
02:08:32,160 --> 02:08:34,880
year.
All right, Sunbelt Fun Belt.
2511
02:08:34,880 --> 02:08:39,120
Pete App versus App State versus
Troy, even because JMU can't
2512
02:08:39,120 --> 02:08:41,040
play Troy. 6 1/2 point
favorites.
2513
02:08:41,720 --> 02:08:45,600
What you got All right so JMU
cannot play in the game and they
2514
02:08:45,600 --> 02:08:48,800
should be in it.
However, who went into
2515
02:08:48,800 --> 02:08:51,160
Harrisonburg and won the game?
App state.
2516
02:08:51,160 --> 02:08:55,680
Did App State They deserve to be
in this game just as much as JMU
2517
02:08:55,680 --> 02:08:58,880
does In my opinion.
Troy has been awesome.
2518
02:08:58,880 --> 02:09:02,560
Their running back is a stud
over 1300 yards this year 9
2519
02:09:02,560 --> 02:09:04,720
touchdowns.
Their QB Watson and their wide
2520
02:09:04,720 --> 02:09:07,600
receivers are are probably
better than Apps.
2521
02:09:07,600 --> 02:09:11,280
Although Aguilar from from App
State has the third most passing
2522
02:09:11,280 --> 02:09:14,480
touchdowns in the country.
This game could be wild.
2523
02:09:14,480 --> 02:09:19,280
Do you guys remember last year
the Troy App State game on the
2524
02:09:19,280 --> 02:09:22,080
Hail Mary?
This was the week after AB had
2525
02:09:22,080 --> 02:09:25,400
beaten Texas A&M.
These teams play crazy games.
2526
02:09:25,400 --> 02:09:29,240
I cannot wait to see it.
I'm taking App State and the
2527
02:09:29,240 --> 02:09:30,600
points.
They have been hot.
2528
02:09:30,600 --> 02:09:32,440
I like Joey Aguilar,
quarterback.
2529
02:09:32,880 --> 02:09:36,920
I'm going Mountaineers.
All right, he goes Mountaineers.
2530
02:09:38,960 --> 02:09:42,600
Who's Shelton got?
Shelton has App state as well.
2531
02:09:42,600 --> 02:09:45,800
Tally, what you got?
Man, I'm picking with my heart,
2532
02:09:45,800 --> 02:09:47,160
man.
I'm picking the hometown
2533
02:09:47,600 --> 02:09:49,720
Trojans.
Funny story, man.
2534
02:09:50,360 --> 02:09:53,680
Jacksonville State, which is
where I went, Used to be big
2535
02:09:53,680 --> 02:09:56,920
rivals with with Troy before
they made the jump to go to the
2536
02:09:56,920 --> 02:10:00,400
big boys.
And it was the Trojans versus
2537
02:10:00,400 --> 02:10:05,400
the Cox that was always a very
cool rivalry, man.
2538
02:10:05,720 --> 02:10:10,040
You know, one of the chance was.
They can't beat our cocks while
2539
02:10:10,040 --> 02:10:12,520
holding.
While holding Trojans Trojan
2540
02:10:12,520 --> 02:10:16,120
columns in your hands.
Yeah, that's funny as little
2541
02:10:16,120 --> 02:10:17,440
man.
See that and get the video of
2542
02:10:17,440 --> 02:10:19,360
that.
Oh my God, that's awesome.
2543
02:10:20,040 --> 02:10:22,440
And so your alma mater's going
to a bowl too, there, Tal.
2544
02:10:23,240 --> 02:10:24,960
Yeah, man, Jacksonville State's
looking good.
2545
02:10:25,200 --> 02:10:27,440
They got some guys that I went
to college with that are
2546
02:10:27,440 --> 02:10:30,920
coaching down there, so I I keep
up with them pretty good.
2547
02:10:30,920 --> 02:10:34,440
They got some good players, man.
Rich Rod's down there doing this
2548
02:10:34,440 --> 02:10:35,680
thing.
Yes, that's right.
2549
02:10:35,680 --> 02:10:36,880
That's right.
All right.
2550
02:10:37,680 --> 02:10:39,600
I'm next on this one.
I'm going, I'm going to ride
2551
02:10:39,600 --> 02:10:42,040
Tally's coattails and I'm going
to go Troy as well.
2552
02:10:42,480 --> 02:10:45,680
Troy has two losses this year,
one's to a good Kansas State
2553
02:10:45,680 --> 02:10:49,560
team and one was to JMU.
The JMU loss was by two points,
2554
02:10:50,600 --> 02:10:54,440
so that is a good Troy team.
I think what we saw with App
2555
02:10:54,440 --> 02:10:57,720
State when they beat JMU, it's
like it happens every year.
2556
02:10:57,720 --> 02:10:59,680
Somebody gets built up and built
up.
2557
02:10:59,760 --> 02:11:01,320
They don't understand how to
play.
2558
02:11:01,320 --> 02:11:05,160
App State had been there.
How many times as Dave has been
2559
02:11:05,160 --> 02:11:07,200
there has pulled the upsets?
Easy.
2560
02:11:07,640 --> 02:11:08,560
See.
Look who you got.
2561
02:11:10,320 --> 02:11:12,720
I'm rolling with that state for
the opposite reason that you
2562
02:11:12,720 --> 02:11:14,840
just said.
I think they are riding some
2563
02:11:14,840 --> 02:11:17,200
momentum now.
They show that they could beat a
2564
02:11:17,200 --> 02:11:20,080
team that is earlier in the year
taking care of Troy.
2565
02:11:20,080 --> 02:11:23,160
So I feel like they are feeling
themselves a little bit.
2566
02:11:23,160 --> 02:11:24,560
I think they're going to take
care of business.
2567
02:11:24,920 --> 02:11:27,440
Yeah.
Five straight for AP9, straight
2568
02:11:27,440 --> 02:11:30,040
for Troy.
This is 2 hot teams coming in.
2569
02:11:30,040 --> 02:11:31,120
I can't wait to see what
happens.
2570
02:11:31,440 --> 02:11:33,800
All righty All right, we got two
more left.
2571
02:11:33,800 --> 02:11:36,640
We're going to start with the
Big 10 championship game where
2572
02:11:36,640 --> 02:11:40,920
it's the Iowa Hawkeyes and I'm
pretty sure still the dead last
2573
02:11:40,960 --> 02:11:45,960
offense in the country at 131
against the Michigan Wolverines.
2574
02:11:45,960 --> 02:11:49,800
Michigan, a 23 point favorite.
This is in Brian's home stadium,
2575
02:11:49,800 --> 02:11:52,040
the Lucas Oil Stadium of his
Colts.
2576
02:11:53,280 --> 02:11:55,000
Pete, what are we seeing on this
one?
2577
02:11:55,480 --> 02:11:59,920
Yeah, I mean, you nailed it,
Curtis, Like 133rd in yards per
2578
02:11:59,920 --> 02:12:02,880
play.
How in your I saw pen, Spencer
2579
02:12:02,880 --> 02:12:04,520
Petrus jumped in the portal
today.
2580
02:12:04,960 --> 02:12:08,240
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
How could any offensive player
2581
02:12:08,480 --> 02:12:10,600
on Iowa not be jumping in the
portal?
2582
02:12:10,600 --> 02:12:12,840
They have been absolutely putrid
on offense for years.
2583
02:12:13,200 --> 02:12:14,600
I don't know how they won 10
games.
2584
02:12:14,680 --> 02:12:17,400
I really don't.
They scraped by Nebraska by the
2585
02:12:17,400 --> 02:12:19,400
skin of their teeth to get that
tenth win.
2586
02:12:20,040 --> 02:12:23,760
Their best win of the season was
probably against Iowa State who
2587
02:12:23,760 --> 02:12:28,160
is mid at best.
So their strength of schedule is
2588
02:12:28,160 --> 02:12:30,040
worse than Virginia Tech's.
If you look at the Colleen
2589
02:12:30,040 --> 02:12:34,080
matrix, Michigan will win.
Let's not, let's not make any
2590
02:12:34,080 --> 02:12:37,760
bones about this, It's going to
be could.
2591
02:12:37,760 --> 02:12:39,080
Could Iowa cover?
Sure.
2592
02:12:39,320 --> 02:12:41,240
But is Iowa going to score a
point?
2593
02:12:41,920 --> 02:12:44,240
Like is Iowa going to score a
point?
2594
02:12:44,320 --> 02:12:46,720
And if they don't score a point,
Michigan's getting 24.
2595
02:12:46,720 --> 02:12:48,320
I'm taking Michigan there.
You go.
2596
02:12:49,120 --> 02:12:50,720
He's taking Michigan, Brian, who
are you taking?
2597
02:12:52,480 --> 02:12:55,880
I just feel like Iowa's defense
is going to keep it just close
2598
02:12:55,880 --> 02:12:59,680
and I think they do get one
touchdown against Michigan and
2599
02:12:59,680 --> 02:13:00,560
that is.
Enough.
2600
02:13:01,880 --> 02:13:05,480
This is true, by the way.
They're giving the O underline
2601
02:13:05,480 --> 02:13:08,280
That was last week because it
was 24 last week.
2602
02:13:08,920 --> 02:13:13,040
Oh my God.
And they did the under, hit it,
2603
02:13:13,160 --> 02:13:16,360
hit it, hit.
We we we our our music guy,
2604
02:13:16,400 --> 02:13:19,000
Jason.
Get dabbles a little bit.
2605
02:13:19,000 --> 02:13:21,120
We're like, you just got to take
the under and watch that game
2606
02:13:21,120 --> 02:13:23,920
because it's taking an under and
watching a game is just an
2607
02:13:23,920 --> 02:13:27,760
experience.
I'm going to take Michigan here,
2608
02:13:28,920 --> 02:13:31,160
I think Michigan, Pete, I'm with
you.
2609
02:13:31,640 --> 02:13:33,000
Iowa's not going to score a
point.
2610
02:13:33,320 --> 02:13:35,280
They're not.
They're not scoring one point,
2611
02:13:35,280 --> 02:13:38,440
Let's say block a field goal or
take one back to the house.
2612
02:13:39,880 --> 02:13:43,880
And I think Michigan is going to
get to about 28 or 31.
2613
02:13:44,160 --> 02:13:48,920
So also the 35 1/2 over under
take the under, take the under.
2614
02:13:48,920 --> 02:13:53,280
That is the easiest money
anybody will make this week. 35
2615
02:13:53,280 --> 02:13:58,520
1/2 under on this game, yeah.
Man, I got to go with Iowa on
2616
02:13:58,520 --> 02:14:00,560
this, man.
I just think that they're like,
2617
02:14:00,560 --> 02:14:02,000
Brian said.
I don't think they're going to
2618
02:14:02,000 --> 02:14:04,320
win the game, but.
Any any means.
2619
02:14:04,320 --> 02:14:07,120
But I mean, that's a lot of
points, man.
2620
02:14:07,720 --> 02:14:09,960
You know what I'm saying?
It's just a lot of points in a
2621
02:14:09,960 --> 02:14:13,080
championship game for us to see
crazy stuff happen.
2622
02:14:13,080 --> 02:14:16,520
So I just think that we're going
to get, you know, I don't know
2623
02:14:18,120 --> 02:14:21,960
not a 24 point win by Michigan
and and one thing that you guys
2624
02:14:21,960 --> 02:14:25,280
got going in your favor is the
fact that Michigan did lose
2625
02:14:25,440 --> 02:14:28,120
their center last game.
Like that would that would
2626
02:14:28,120 --> 02:14:31,320
that's a big loss and I think
they are already lost a guard at
2627
02:14:31,320 --> 02:14:33,720
one point.
So there is something that could
2628
02:14:33,720 --> 02:14:36,760
potentially hold the Michigan
offense back here and not having
2629
02:14:36,760 --> 02:14:39,360
their dudes up front.
Nevertheless, I'm going to stick
2630
02:14:39,360 --> 02:14:42,280
with my Michigan, all right?
Shelton.
2631
02:14:42,720 --> 02:14:45,400
Shelton Rd.
With Iowa and obviously Pete's.
2632
02:14:45,560 --> 02:14:50,520
Pete's with Michigan here all.
Right, last game ACC title game
2633
02:14:50,520 --> 02:14:54,480
Louisville, FSU, Louisville or
FSU at 2 1/2 point.
2634
02:14:54,480 --> 02:14:57,400
Favorite Pete.
What were your impressions to
2635
02:14:57,400 --> 02:15:00,160
take Rodmaker last week in the
Swamp against a solid Florida
2636
02:15:00,160 --> 02:15:03,760
defense?
They weren't good to start off,
2637
02:15:03,800 --> 02:15:10,240
I'll say that the the guy didn't
complete 50% of his passes. 134
2638
02:15:10,240 --> 02:15:12,600
yards, got his clock cleaned
trying to slide.
2639
02:15:14,240 --> 02:15:17,520
No, I wasn't impressed.
I also wasn't impressed that
2640
02:15:17,520 --> 02:15:23,040
Florida State gave up 244 yards
rushing to the Florida offense.
2641
02:15:23,280 --> 02:15:27,440
That's something that if
Louisville can run the football,
2642
02:15:28,080 --> 02:15:30,360
that's going to be a huge
problem for Florida State in
2643
02:15:30,360 --> 02:15:32,840
this game.
Brahm kind of just got his pants
2644
02:15:32,840 --> 02:15:34,680
pulled down by Mark Stoops last
week.
2645
02:15:35,040 --> 02:15:38,960
You know, he's going to scheme
something up for this
2646
02:15:38,960 --> 02:15:40,880
championship game.
Brahm's a very good coach.
2647
02:15:40,920 --> 02:15:44,320
I think Norvell is a good coach.
And the line is tight, right?
2648
02:15:44,800 --> 02:15:50,640
The the 15 yards per run.
Like if you look at, yeah, yards
2649
02:15:50,640 --> 02:15:53,600
per run allowed, Louisville is
15.
2650
02:15:53,960 --> 02:15:56,480
I know they, they, they didn't
have the best game against
2651
02:15:56,600 --> 02:15:58,440
Kentucky.
They've only gave up like 84
2652
02:15:58,440 --> 02:16:01,560
rushing yards.
If they can slow Benson down,
2653
02:16:01,760 --> 02:16:05,160
Louisville is going to have a
tremendous chance to win this
2654
02:16:05,160 --> 02:16:08,280
game.
And so I went back and forth on
2655
02:16:08,280 --> 02:16:10,160
this because I think Louisville
has a real shot.
2656
02:16:10,280 --> 02:16:13,320
I I really do.
I'm going to take floor state.
2657
02:16:13,320 --> 02:16:15,520
It's under a field goal as we're
picking it.
2658
02:16:15,800 --> 02:16:18,680
I'm going to take floor state
with a gun in my head, but I do
2659
02:16:18,680 --> 02:16:23,280
not like it.
What's Sheldon got on this one?
2660
02:16:23,560 --> 02:16:25,360
Sheldon's riding with FSU as
well.
2661
02:16:26,240 --> 02:16:29,040
Tally.
I got to go FSU, man.
2662
02:16:29,320 --> 02:16:32,480
I got to go FSUI don't have any
rhyme or reason behind it.
2663
02:16:32,480 --> 02:16:37,040
I just think they're going to.
Win and I I I'm, I'm, I'm riding
2664
02:16:37,040 --> 02:16:38,879
FSU as well.
I think they're going to win
2665
02:16:38,879 --> 02:16:40,360
this game and get in the
playoff.
2666
02:16:40,680 --> 02:16:43,639
I think they've they've got a
well balanced enough team that
2667
02:16:43,639 --> 02:16:47,200
they can do it.
And again I think you talked
2668
02:16:47,200 --> 02:16:50,040
about I think being in the swamp
might have been the best thing
2669
02:16:50,040 --> 02:16:52,400
for Tate.
Rodemaker hostile environment.
2670
02:16:52,400 --> 02:16:54,520
Loud.
Playing a solid defense.
2671
02:16:54,920 --> 02:16:58,879
Because now, even though
Louisville is a good defense,
2672
02:16:59,760 --> 02:17:01,440
it's the environment.
You're going to the Charlotte,
2673
02:17:01,440 --> 02:17:02,840
you're going to Bank of America
Stadium.
2674
02:17:03,040 --> 02:17:04,959
You're not going to have people
going crazy in your ear.
2675
02:17:05,360 --> 02:17:07,600
And and I think they make the
playoff.
2676
02:17:07,639 --> 02:17:09,600
I don't know if they do anything
in the playoff, but they make
2677
02:17:09,600 --> 02:17:12,040
it.
Curtis, you're absolutely right
2678
02:17:12,040 --> 02:17:16,400
on that because the The Swamp is
such a tough place to play and
2679
02:17:16,400 --> 02:17:20,080
so that you couldn't have asked
for a better because he came out
2680
02:17:20,080 --> 02:17:23,920
on the winning side and so now
they do have the better overall
2681
02:17:23,920 --> 02:17:25,559
roster.
So I'm with you.
2682
02:17:26,799 --> 02:17:30,879
Yeah, I think this is a bounce.
It's a bounce back week for the
2683
02:17:30,879 --> 02:17:33,440
FSU defense.
I think they take care of
2684
02:17:33,440 --> 02:17:34,879
business.
I think they do just enough
2685
02:17:34,879 --> 02:17:38,400
offensively to outlast the
Cardinals there.
2686
02:17:38,400 --> 02:17:41,360
So give me FSU as well.
All righty.
2687
02:17:41,680 --> 02:17:43,400
So they're all our wonderful
lines.
2688
02:17:43,400 --> 02:17:45,280
That was a lot of fun to pick
these games.
2689
02:17:45,280 --> 02:17:47,280
We got to Pete.
Regardless, you're coming back
2690
02:17:47,280 --> 02:17:50,280
and doing this next year.
Even if Shelton's on, we're
2691
02:17:50,280 --> 02:17:51,959
still doing this.
All righty.
2692
02:17:51,959 --> 02:17:54,400
We got one more thing.
I'll let Brian take that down.
2693
02:17:55,440 --> 02:17:59,240
And we won't know likely until
Sunday afternoon as we're
2694
02:17:59,240 --> 02:18:01,920
probably watching NFL, seeing if
we can make our fantasy
2695
02:18:01,920 --> 02:18:04,240
playoffs.
But I'm going to start with that
2696
02:18:04,240 --> 02:18:06,320
guest here.
Pete, Bowl projections for
2697
02:18:06,320 --> 02:18:08,520
Virginia Tech.
Where do you think we're going
2698
02:18:08,520 --> 02:18:10,600
to go?
Who are we going to play?
2699
02:18:11,879 --> 02:18:16,120
Overwhelming projections say
Military Bowl, that that's where
2700
02:18:16,120 --> 02:18:17,719
most of the people are
projecting us to.
2701
02:18:18,160 --> 02:18:21,680
Do we have a chance at the
Duke's Mayo or the Sun Bowl?
2702
02:18:21,959 --> 02:18:25,920
Yes, but in the Military Bowl,
Memphis I think has been
2703
02:18:25,920 --> 02:18:28,160
mentioned the most as a
potential matchup.
2704
02:18:28,719 --> 02:18:36,840
I've seen Rice in there, SMU in
there, UTSA, Navy, if I would
2705
02:18:36,840 --> 02:18:39,000
say it's the Military Bowl
against Memphis.
2706
02:18:39,360 --> 02:18:43,480
But it's probably my first
choice too because we, we can
2707
02:18:43,480 --> 02:18:45,719
get so many Hokies there.
It's easy to get to.
2708
02:18:45,719 --> 02:18:50,480
Do I want to play in El Paso?
No, not really.
2709
02:18:50,840 --> 02:18:54,240
I don't want to go to the Tony
the Tiger bowl, but that that's
2710
02:18:54,240 --> 02:18:56,600
a that's one of the higher
possibilities.
2711
02:18:56,600 --> 02:18:58,760
A lot of the other ones are are
probably more remote.
2712
02:19:00,400 --> 02:19:02,240
All righty.
So he's going military.
2713
02:19:02,240 --> 02:19:04,639
Memphis Tally, What do you
think?
2714
02:19:05,719 --> 02:19:09,879
I keep saying military SMU, so
I'm going to go with that
2715
02:19:10,959 --> 02:19:15,480
Military SMU.
Matter of fact, I'm putting up a
2716
02:19:15,559 --> 02:19:21,320
GoFundMe on my Twitter page.
I need y'all to start sending
2717
02:19:21,320 --> 02:19:23,600
some stuff so I can go to this
game wherever it's at.
2718
02:19:24,400 --> 02:19:27,600
I think they need me there to
win, so y'all start.
2719
02:19:27,959 --> 02:19:32,920
Start donating.
I start donating single.
2720
02:19:32,959 --> 02:19:36,240
Who you got, man?
I'm I'm kind of leaning towards
2721
02:19:36,400 --> 02:19:40,920
I I want it to be Duke's Mayo.
But I'm the more I think about
2722
02:19:40,920 --> 02:19:43,320
it, it's looking like the
military is going to be the
2723
02:19:43,320 --> 02:19:48,120
pick.
You know what, as much as I I I
2724
02:19:48,120 --> 02:19:49,760
like Memphis.
I think that would be a better
2725
02:19:49,760 --> 02:19:52,280
match up for us.
I'm kind of intrigued by the
2726
02:19:52,360 --> 02:19:57,440
future ACC member SSMU match up,
so let let me get that one.
2727
02:19:58,200 --> 02:20:01,240
Yeah, you see a lot on here
because you got, you got the
2728
02:20:01,240 --> 02:20:03,800
Fenway, you got the pinstripe.
We're not going to the pinstripe
2729
02:20:03,800 --> 02:20:05,400
Bowl.
Just write that one off.
2730
02:20:05,400 --> 02:20:06,840
They're not going to send us out
West.
2731
02:20:07,200 --> 02:20:09,720
I saw the projection today.
Clemson's going out West.
2732
02:20:09,720 --> 02:20:12,080
Play USC.
That would be fun.
2733
02:20:12,240 --> 02:20:14,400
That's a guarantee right there.
They're going to the Holiday
2734
02:20:14,400 --> 02:20:16,880
Bowl.
But I think, Brian, you just
2735
02:20:16,880 --> 02:20:18,120
said it.
I think it's going to be the
2736
02:20:18,120 --> 02:20:22,000
Military Bowl because they know
Hokies in Northern Virginia,
2737
02:20:22,000 --> 02:20:24,520
Richmond, even peep where you
are.
2738
02:20:24,520 --> 02:20:28,160
It's not that far of a drive for
you down to Annapolis, Easy
2739
02:20:28,160 --> 02:20:30,120
drive.
They fill up the stadium and
2740
02:20:30,120 --> 02:20:33,560
then ESPN gets a narrative when
they put SMU in there.
2741
02:20:34,480 --> 02:20:36,600
This game is going to happen in
the future.
2742
02:20:36,600 --> 02:20:41,440
The SMU versus Virginia Tech.
And I think for us it would be a
2743
02:20:41,440 --> 02:20:43,520
challenge.
I do that.
2744
02:20:43,560 --> 02:20:47,160
It sure as hell would.
Now here's what we hope though.
2745
02:20:47,240 --> 02:20:49,120
We hope it's a good old
Annapolis weather.
2746
02:20:49,120 --> 02:20:51,680
It's about 36�� and it's a little
drizzle.
2747
02:20:51,680 --> 02:20:55,960
With that high-powered offense,
they got to make some decisions.
2748
02:20:56,320 --> 02:20:59,680
I mean, one of my least favorite
projections is the Kentucky
2749
02:20:59,680 --> 02:21:01,440
Duke's Mayo Bowl.
Like, you know, if we had to
2750
02:21:01,440 --> 02:21:07,000
play that, we do not want any
part of Lynn Bowden two point O,
2751
02:21:07,360 --> 02:21:10,000
We don't.
We don't want because Ray Davis,
2752
02:21:10,200 --> 02:21:15,320
that rushing offense, they would
destroy what we got going on in
2753
02:21:15,320 --> 02:21:17,600
the linebacking core and whatnot
like that.
2754
02:21:17,600 --> 02:21:19,760
That just would not be good.
I don't.
2755
02:21:19,760 --> 02:21:22,720
I do not want either Robbie.
Shane didn't make it.
2756
02:21:22,800 --> 02:21:23,840
Shane didn't make.
It.
2757
02:21:26,400 --> 02:21:29,640
Not this year.
Not this year, no Mayo, for
2758
02:21:29,640 --> 02:21:31,080
shame.
This year that's not going to
2759
02:21:31,080 --> 02:21:32,880
happen.
I did think when I saw the Sun
2760
02:21:32,880 --> 02:21:36,520
Bowl projection for Virginia
Tech against USC, like I did
2761
02:21:36,520 --> 02:21:39,160
kind of perk up like that just
sounds wild.
2762
02:21:39,160 --> 02:21:43,120
And the fact that, like, we have
some corners, could we defend I?
2763
02:21:43,200 --> 02:21:44,680
Who knows?
Well, Caleb Williams wouldn't be
2764
02:21:44,720 --> 02:21:45,360
playing.
He wouldn't.
2765
02:21:45,360 --> 02:21:46,880
Even play.
So I can say half of them
2766
02:21:46,880 --> 02:21:48,000
wouldn't.
Yeah, that's true.
2767
02:21:48,160 --> 02:21:50,640
That's true.
So we might get A, we might get
2768
02:21:50,640 --> 02:21:53,200
the B team.
And still get worked.
2769
02:21:53,280 --> 02:21:55,280
I don't know.
Yeah, I just hope our guys
2770
02:21:55,320 --> 02:21:56,720
playing the bowl game, that's
all I want.
2771
02:21:56,920 --> 02:21:59,640
Yeah, right, exactly.
We already got people declaring
2772
02:21:59,640 --> 02:22:01,800
for the portal, so we.
Got people already not playing.
2773
02:22:01,920 --> 02:22:04,840
So but again, it's just fun to
be back in a bowl.
2774
02:22:05,240 --> 02:22:06,560
I mean it.
It's a little we missed one
2775
02:22:06,560 --> 02:22:08,480
season.
And it's just it's fun to have
2776
02:22:08,480 --> 02:22:12,760
conversations like this because.
It is 1000% fun.
2777
02:22:12,920 --> 02:22:15,000
It was depressing last year.
It was very depressing.
2778
02:22:15,000 --> 02:22:17,480
Depressing.
Yes, it was all right.
2779
02:22:17,920 --> 02:22:22,640
It is after midnight here on the
East Coast, over 2 hours, 23
2780
02:22:22,640 --> 02:22:23,960
minutes.
It has been a blast.
2781
02:22:23,960 --> 02:22:25,680
Pete, we really appreciate you
joining us.
2782
02:22:25,920 --> 02:22:28,440
Has anything broken in the last
two hours?
2783
02:22:28,440 --> 02:22:29,960
I mean, obviously a coach got
hired.
2784
02:22:29,960 --> 02:22:31,960
So has anything else broken?
Has anybody else entered the
2785
02:22:31,960 --> 02:22:35,680
portal or anything like?
Pete, that Pete may be entering
2786
02:22:35,680 --> 02:22:37,400
the portal and coming to
Boundary corner.
2787
02:22:37,400 --> 02:22:39,600
I'm just letting y'all know
you're talking behind this
2788
02:22:39,720 --> 02:22:43,000
thing.
You got you got too many people
2789
02:22:43,000 --> 02:22:44,360
on this podcast already.
You.
2790
02:22:45,200 --> 02:22:47,280
Can never have.
You can never have too many good
2791
02:22:47,360 --> 02:22:49,440
people.
I never had too many good.
2792
02:22:49,440 --> 02:22:50,760
I love hanging out with you
guys.
2793
02:22:50,760 --> 02:22:55,200
I, you know, and you gave me
some props earlier for for what
2794
02:22:55,200 --> 02:22:58,040
I said on your panel.
Well go back to the spring when
2795
02:22:58,040 --> 02:23:01,720
we did the the spring preview
spring game preview down in at
2796
02:23:01,720 --> 02:23:06,040
Sharky's and I asked, I asked
Brian like who does he like at
2797
02:23:06,040 --> 02:23:09,160
wide receiver and he was like
Gimme Felton and like we had
2798
02:23:09,160 --> 02:23:13,120
heard nothing to that point
about Daquan Felton and Brian
2799
02:23:13,120 --> 02:23:15,720
just pulled it right out.
I was like, OK, we'll see what
2800
02:23:15,720 --> 02:23:18,880
happens and look at felt in the
last three games. 321 yards, 4
2801
02:23:18,880 --> 02:23:21,560
touchdowns, Good call.
Buddy Baller.
2802
02:23:21,640 --> 02:23:23,480
Putting in the work.
Putting in the work, man.
2803
02:23:24,480 --> 02:23:27,680
Well, boys, that does wrap up
this episode of the Boundary
2804
02:23:27,680 --> 02:23:31,560
Corner podcast, brought to you
by Main Street Pharmacy with our
2805
02:23:31,560 --> 02:23:33,840
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2806
02:23:33,840 --> 02:23:38,320
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02:23:38,320 --> 02:23:41,520
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2812
02:23:47,640 --> 02:23:50,760
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02:23:56,080 --> 02:23:58,480
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2817
02:24:01,400 --> 02:24:03,960
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2818
02:24:04,640 --> 02:24:08,800
Boys, it's been a great season.
Six and six.
2819
02:24:08,800 --> 02:24:10,240
Some people say, well, that's
nothing.
2820
02:24:10,240 --> 02:24:13,200
Where we were last year at this
time with three wins, it did not
2821
02:24:13,200 --> 02:24:15,720
look good.
But we're getting back.
2822
02:24:15,720 --> 02:24:20,000
We saw the development and one
last time during the regular
2823
02:24:20,000 --> 02:24:22,160
season.
Let's go.
2824
02:24:22,880 --> 02:24:25,360
Okey.
Okey, thank you Lord for
2825
02:24:25,360 --> 02:24:32,680
covering drones.
The.