Your boys Curtis and Brian give you their takeaways from the media availability from Adam Lechtenberg, Ryan Smith, Jack Tyler, and JC Price. They also discuss our two latest commitments, 2021 football coaches salaries, and Evan Norris' SoS interview with Hendon Hooker.
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Welcome back to the boundary
Corner podcast.
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My name is Curtis Wilson.
I'm Brian Sigler.
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How are you doing tonight buddy?
Me and you are Co watching some
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big 12 Hoops here.
Who tournament teams battling
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down in the state of Texas.
We're both very tired.
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Guys are if our energy level
isn't normal.
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Brian has had a hell of a week.
There there's been doctor's
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appointments in pretty much
every member of my family this
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week, on top of not the greatest
sleep due to some of those
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things.
So if I'm a little low energy or
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lethargic compared to my normal
Persona, don't take it out on
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me.
I'm trying to try to grind
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through and we'll get a nice
episode out for you guys.
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Anyway, getting a good episode
out, regardless, just the energy
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levels, aren't there again
Brian.
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Like you said everybody in his
eye, Cows have been to the
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hospital or to the doctor this
week.
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Also over here.
We're changing schedules again
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with one of the kiddos back in
school in person, though, my
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routines completely change and
obviously, you know, pregnant
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wife and we're getting close.
Close to time.
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Things are happening.
Final Countdown.
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The Final Countdown, every
little thing, where it's like,
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okay, eat meat texting and
telling people Might not be able
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to work tomorrow and then I'm
working tomorrow.
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So on alert.
Nope not only I don't know
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exactly but you know guys it's
been a couple weeks since we
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dropped anything and that was
the white Vixen of you, we
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really appreciate all the
listens we got to that we had an
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unbelievable time with the
white.
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You know if you don't follow him
and Victory Life on Twitter.
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Do so he's a heck of a follow
and we're definitely probably
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going to have Him back soon but
since that point I'm a lot of
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things going on Hokie Nation.
We're going to hit a variety of
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topics tonight.
But what's going to lead off the
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show is something the guys over
at some of the Saturday
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primarily Evan Norse.
Did he had an interview with
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former hokey quarterback Hendon
hooker and you know, overall the
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interview Brian, you know it
seems like, you know, he left on
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foot.
Cordial terms.
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He did not bus anybody he did,
raise some things here and there
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what was what was some of the
things that kind of caught you
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Brian.
Yeah, definitely wasn't like a
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clap back season type interview
so we didn't see any of the
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sparks flying or anything like
that.
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Whether you were expecting that
or not expecting that, you know
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you'll be disappointed there.
It's very much a Straightforward
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interview, some concerns in
there but nothing that you know
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was you know get your popcorn
ready, worthy of our checking
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out there.
It was it was a very good
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interview.
I think Kevin did a good job
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with it.
Particularly things that stood
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out for me and you know this is
one thing that we talked about
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before is some of the comments
that have been made about the
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offensive scheme.
Nothing was necessary.
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He blatantly lately - but there
were some concerns about, you
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know, sometimes plays not there.
Sometimes you don't have the
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right call at the right time,
you know, things like that,
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where you can kind of read
between the lines a little bit.
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And say, yeah, I wasn't always
put in the best position and
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when even when I was sometimes
the play call wasn't right?
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So that's obviously Something
that we need to work for.
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We talked about this before and
I know it's low-hanging.
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Fruit to bash the offensive
coordinator in general at
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Virginia Tech.
I mean, it's a tale as old as
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time or at least as old as the
be Moreira 2001.
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Yeah, exactly.
So, don't mean, we've been doing
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this a while at the same time,
that doesn't make the concerns
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that are raised both by the
fans.
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And in this case by the former
quarterback in and Hooker
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invalid.
Yeah, you know he said it in the
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piece was he said the system is
great, which Ron me and you have
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said numerous times, like the
system is the, the style that we
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have is a really unbelievable
system.
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But to your point, Yes, when he
said, right?
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Place at the right time Brian.
I think did you text me?
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Or I texted you I sent that
quote in like what rhymes?
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Like we said that.
That's what we're saying
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validation.
Yeah.
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I mean I'll take a Victory lap
on this.
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I mean we've been talking about
this for a long time, it's not
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the scheme.
It's the number one sometimes
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week-to-week preparation.
Number two situational play
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calling And and it's not that
the offense has been bad.
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Especially in terms of just the
raw numbers is that there's so
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many points that are left on the
field week to week.
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And there's so many
opportunities to extend a drive
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that can put you in a better
position to win the game that,
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you know, there's just it just
isn't there.
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So, you know, we're not saying
we're not critical of the
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offense across the board.
I think there are pluses and
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minuses to take from it, but
when you see a very key thing
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that there's nothing being I'm
done to address that key thing,
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you know, that's when you start
having some, some questions come
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out and some like, hey, why
aren't we doing anything to
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address this obvious
shortcoming.
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Exactly.
So, yeah, so definitely those
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concern that kind of thought my
the other one that called pain,
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both eyes, Brian was talking
about, who had the closest
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relationship with and you
expected to, you know, Here, one
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of the position coaches or
something like that.
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And he said, nice like, you
know, really the gaas and he
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really, he mentioned Caleb
jealous.
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Amino as something that body,
talk to regular day-to-day in
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person.
And at first, when you read
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that, if you take just that line
out, it's like, oh my God, our
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coaches are out of touch.
He kind of followed it up and he
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said, you know, that, that's
usually how it is.
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He's like, you know, you come
in, you can talk to coaches
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sometimes.
But in college football, they
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have so much on their plates
during the day.
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Yeah, be recruiting this 24/7
now.
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I mean, I'm playing it.
Like, there's if it's not be
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scheduled time to be with the
coaches.
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Yeah, I get that being close
with the ga like if that's whose
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ear you're going to Ping, First
with any sort of concern and
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he's sort of like, low-level
question that you have about
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whether it's skiing whether it's
game, plan, you know, whatever
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it may be.
That's where you're going to
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touch first.
And if they can't get you the
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answers, then you kind of move
up the chain of command there.
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But yeah, I mean it made more
sense as he went in there and
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the gaas are obviously going to
be more accessible day-to-day
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and minute-to-minute than than
the even position coaches.
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Especially.
You're probably in the, in the
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offseason there.
So yeah, I definitely understand
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the answer, even though like the
first line kind of like, whoa,
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whoa, that's that's interesting.
But, you know, the explanation
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makes sense, the explanation
makes tons of sense and you know
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the other pieces it goes back to
that.
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How much support staff do you
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How many gaas do you have?
How many analysts do you have?
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Because the more guys you have
like that obviously.
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You know, four players come in
at once and there's one GA and
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they're all going to talk to him
and talk ball and talk shop and
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things that are going on in
their heads.
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Well, he has for people to think
about in four different
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potential different coaches to
go back to the relay.
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What's going on with those guys
again the building of the
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operation staff is going to help
with that because if you have
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enough staff there, More people
to listen, to The Players, to
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communicate it back to the
coaches, when the coaches are
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in, you know, deep film study or
deep recruiting type stuff are
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on the road for recruiting
potentially.
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So, again, always talking about
it again.
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There's been those reports that
the staffs going to get bigger,
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which is what we need.
So it makes sense completely
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again.
It's like one of those things
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you're in a big company, not
many times, can you walk into
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the vp's office and sit down
have a conversation?
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Can you usually talk into, you
know, the operations manager or
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Financial Manager before you get
to go to the big box chair?
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But that last one, Brian, me and
we need to just talk on it.
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Did that make your eyebrows
raised a few minutes ago?
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It did man talking about what
happened with the bowl and
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Senior from the from the sounds
that they've hidden stalking
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their.
It's it's very it seems very
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much like a situation where the
players wanted to play.
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Yeah.
Some power that that is behind
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the scenes or whether it's
coaching staff, whether it's
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athletic department, whether
it's, you know, somewhere else
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said, you know, we're probably
not going to be in this bowl.
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That's interesting.
I know we've, I think heard
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Whispers as you know, will
players voted not to do it or
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coaches said they weren't going
to do it.
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Like we've heard the gamut of
potential reasons why a bowl
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game wasn't played.
You know we I think They've been
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kind of of the mind that we
don't feel like the team earned
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it.
So we were kind of fine with not
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playing it but it would have
been nice to keep the streak
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going even if it didn't mean as
much, but it's interesting
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getting that perspective.
Just because we hadn't heard any
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player, talk about it directly
before.
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So it was it was interesting to
see that that's the case and you
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know I'm not I don't see any
other hard data out there too.
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To contradict what hidden and
saying here.
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So nah, not at all.
There's nothing out there saying
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and whether it came from coaches
coaching staff or leaders of the
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team.
Well, it was going to be what
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the Military Bowl it was going
to be, you know, it was not
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going to be a bowl of prestige.
It was probably going to be a
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bowl where the guys were going
to have to stay on campus for
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Christmas and after the hell
that they've been through with
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this with this, with covid shit.
I'm fine with what they did man.
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So, yeah, you know, I mean, he
talked about he's like, you
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know, I think most, The players
were fine with it because they
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wanted to get the extra tape.
Like, if they play the game,
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they got an extra game to get
tape on it at least against the
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quality opponent.
Even if it's not necessarily A
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high-level, ranked opponent that
you would have liked to seen in
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a bowl game, but like I said, I
would have kind of been good
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with either way, it's nice to
kind of In a way in a season
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like we had just to go ahead and
kind of rip the Band-Aid off on
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this whole Bowl streak thing and
kind of move forward with that.
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Not the expectations for this
past season were We did not
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close to meeting them.
They were high, we didn't come
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close to meeting them.
So if we're, if we're going to
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rip the Band-Aid off, we might
as well do it in a season like
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this or we've already live the
disappointment.
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Abso-freakin'-lutely.
All right.
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Something else that came out in.
This was back on the 16th.
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So, really just a couple days
after we last recorded.
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The coaching salaries.
Now obviously the reduce
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compensation this year because
of covid.
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They all agreed to take hits.
But Brian, let me let's do this.
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I think this will be a little
fun activity.
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I'm going to give you a coach
give you their almost salary,
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not the adjusted salary.
Too much, too little just right,
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you ready?
Yep.
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Let's roll Jafar Williams, 280
thousand dollars a year.
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Based on recent history,
probably too much much, okay,
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Vance, Vice 300,000, that's just
right, just right, just right
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Jack, Tyler brand-new 250k.
That's just right.
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I like that disagree with you,
on that one.
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I think Jack needs 25,000 more
because we know he can call the
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game if needed.
We'll discuss that later, folks.
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I'll build Karen Lee 400,000.
It's probably a little higher
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than I'd like but I get, why
we're paying him that?
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Well, I think I see the
defensive line in the
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improvements.
We had in that one year.
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I think he's just right.
And if the defensive line
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continues to improve, I think he
deserves a bump.
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Right here we go.
Brian Smith 275.
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I like it.
I like that.
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He got a bump from where he was.
He definitely earned it last
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year between getting Dorian
strong where he was dealing with
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not having his two best corners
the whole year and doing a good
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job on the recruiting Trail.
So I think hearing pump probably
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could be a little bit higher if
you really, you know, if we're
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being honest, but I get that you
can't do, you can't go, but so
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much on on one year's worth of
data.
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So I'm gonna 75.
This is gonna be an interesting
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one.
The next one I'm going to 75
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maybe giving 20K more P95 but
it's not, he's it's not
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atrocious next year.
You know, the Seabees continue
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to play like they played,
especially once he has Pull all
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season, you better get ready to
write an extra 50 to 60 thousand
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and eight, guys check.
All right, you ready?
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Yep.
James shall best four hundred,
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seventy five thousand dollars.
It's high.
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It's it if you told me he was
like 425, I'd probably say maybe
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just right.
You know, we're talking about,
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he's pretty much up there with.
I know we're going to get to the
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offensive coordinator here in a
little bit.
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He's right there at the
offensive coordinator as you
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know, doing position special
teams in a position there.
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So that seems a little high to
me.
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Seems I put him at 425 and I'd
be happy with for 25.
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It seems extremely high to me
now.
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They are your life. 375 then.
Oh yeah.
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Yes 75 To a hundred thousand
dollars.
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Less.
The only way I would say I would
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approve.
This is if he's essentially the
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associate head coach, have one
in title.
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Right now, Shabbos is probably
the most experienced coach on
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the staff probably and I'm
assuming maybe that's why he's
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getting it, he's not entitled.
But technically since he runs
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special teams, that maybe he's
really doing some of the stuff
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with Justin just not entitle is
just in his, it's just in his
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job description.
So but put the title if he's
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doing that so I can justify 475
if he's not doing that giving
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375 and spread the 100,000
elsewhere.
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Alrighty here.
All right.
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Adam lectin Berg. 275,000.
I mean with the new role he's
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taking on, I think that's just
right, I can see somewhere
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between 250 and 275.
So Let it ride it 275, I'm good
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with you know, where he's at
right now now.
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And you kind of say, if he has
someone have, let's say he has
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another fifteen hundred yard
rusher next year.
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Do we need to pay that man?
Some more money.
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I mean, he'll If he if he gets
1,000 yard rusher with the
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probably more than likely a
committee backfield then I mean
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you definitely got to give him
at least a little bump.
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Up to maybe three, okay.
That because that I think that's
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not only the evaluation that he
had to bring in a guy like
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Herbert and then to have a
season like he had within to
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back that up with Back feel that
doesn't have a true lead back as
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of this moment, you know, if a
guy like Holston goes out and
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gets a thousand yards and you
get a, you know, about 750
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all-purpose from a guy like
Blackshear and, you know, a few
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hundred from from the other guys
collectively.
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I mean, that's a pretty solid
fucking coaching job there with
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talent.
That is good.
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But not necessarily a deleted,
any level.
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Very true JC price walking in
brand new 275 and he issues with
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that.
Absolutely not good across the
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board.
I think with having the role
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that he's going to have in
really spearheading the
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recruiting in the state,
probably some of the alumni
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relations on top of the job.
He's gonna be doing working with
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Bill to your link.
I think that's that's definitely
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justifiable.
I'd have been happy with 250 but
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275 I can't argue with that
either.
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I'm due at 275 to, but again,
like a few other guys on this
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list.
You see some let's just say we
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see three to four top 20 players
in Virginia break the Hokies
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way.
He might be asking for some more
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money next year.
Yeah.
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I think on his front it's going
to be the what changes do we see
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on the recruiting side?
Just because with him being co
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position coach, I don't think
even a good output from the
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defensive line when necessarily
warrant a bump.
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But if you see, you know, the
continued output that we saw
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last year, the offensive line on
top of some recruiting.
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Bumps, that we weren't expecting
that.
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I think you can definitely say
okay well this is JC working his
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magic, you know.
Maybe maybe you know you know
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you're not talking a big boy.
Yeah I don't think you put it
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much above 3 but You know, we'll
see where I'd be at.
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All right, so the next one,
before we get into the two
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coordinators.
Let's discuss Ben Hill.
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Barks.
The banking conditioning head,
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man, So he's a 280, okay.
What if I told you that?
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The top guy in the country is
making double what he makes.
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That's the Bama strength and
conditioning coach, and I'm not
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bad.
I'm going to say, I guess that's
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really two fronts.
I think he is relative to that.
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I think he's learning what he's
making that also.
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Begs the question are we under
paying for that role?
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So, essentially, our we are, we
attract not attracting a high
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level selection in that role
because of where our salary is
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for it.
That's I'm not knocking, he'll
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guard here, but by any stretch I
think that he'll guard does a
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pretty decent job.
I think there are shortcomings
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in some of the things that we do
because there are certain
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position groups that
consistently or not.
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I don't think putting on the
good way.
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Wait, that we'd like to see or
at least the consistent good
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way.
That we'd like to see, I think
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there is very much a not
Beachbody mentality, but I think
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a lot of times we sacrifice,
Core strength for, I guess,
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functional weight, which I think
is good, but at some point you
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got to be bigger faster stronger
than the next guy.
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And Brian, I was incorrect on
the top page, strength and
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conditioning coach is Mickey,
Mariota at Ohio State, who is
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making eight hundred thousand
dollars a year.
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Okay.
So yeah, we're pretty much
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getting what we're paying for
them.
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Yep.
Taking a look here.
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Ben Hill.
Guard is Is.
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Yeah.
Where's the ranking in terms of
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actual position?
Because I know there's going to
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be a big, a big depth of
difference between kind of those
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top-tier Blue Bloods versus your
average power.
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Five straight, you won't see him
believe it or not, we're about
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40th teams, like Virginia, NC
State Lewisville, all paying
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more, So we're honestly right
where we are in terms of
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assisting compensation, we're
right, we're right on track with
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that, with that position as
well.
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So that yeah, yeah.
So we're paying, you know, we've
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got top top 25 expectations with
with top 40 investment, ding
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ding.
All right, let's get the last to
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roll in here.
Justin Hamilton six hundred
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thousand dollars a year.
I mean, I'm fine with it.
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Yeah, I think what happens is
season is going to determine
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whether a lot more about what I
think about that.
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I don't think that we got a
really good barometer of how
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good of a higher, you know, just
mammals.
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It's going to be long term and I
think we know that we know the
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good things and we know that at
least in the short term Season 1
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wasn't the best.
But season 1 also wasn't.
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There wasn't a lot of
Installation time for that
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defense.
And there was a lot of time to
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practice that installation.
So I'm trying not to hold that
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against this season's output on
top of all the other issues that
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the defense in particular dealt
with, with covid more so than
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the offense.
So let's look that's a
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wait-and-see for me.
Like I said, I'm fine with it
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now but it's definitely a wait
and see.
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Once I see what this offseason
looks like once next season
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looks like how the defense
adjust what type of, you know,
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when we talked about the, the
presser that he had, some of the
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okay we'll little bit of
addition by subtraction, little
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bit of streamlining the
concepts, keeping some of the
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concepts that were working with
the with with buds defense into
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the system and just in general
making the system that he is
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implementing.
More consistent across the board
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in terms of the type of
communication that's coming from
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the coaches.
So we'll see if that pays
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dividends on top of actually
having a spring practice, on top
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of having a normal fault, fall
Camp.
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So time until they're
absolutely.
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And last but not least, The
Whipping Boy of the podcast,
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right cornelison for ninety
thousand dollars.
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Honestly in terms of what boats
offensive coordinators get paid.
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I mean he's earning his money
we're just not paying enough for
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that position in my opinion.
Uh-huh.
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And we're getting what we're
paying for Let's hope, you know,
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that discussion of there's more
money coming into the program
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for spending those types of
money in that and not only.
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It helps the guys who were, you
know, really performing here
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where we can get them to
adequate level, so they don't
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leave, but those who are not
performing, let's hope that's
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able to get them out the door
and get an upgrade with
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significantly more money to be
paid.
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Yeah.
And you know that philosophy if
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we're if we were hiring some new
guys just you know, starting
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from scratch, we already have 20
in place but starting from
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scratch, everything else I'd
have like 750,000 being the
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minimum starting price for my
coordinators.
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Minimum and obviously.
Now we kind of think we'll
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strength and conditioning for
probably be closer to 400,000 if
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we just, yeah, if we bump that
up to 400 and we bumped both of
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the coordinators up to 750 and
then, yeah, there would be
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trickle-down.
I mean, you're not going to,
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you're not going to pay, what is
it close to?
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700,000 for defensive line coach
has in that situation.
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Knowledge, might have one guy
that you pay 350 or 400
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thousand.
It's true.
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But, you know, you kind of take
a look at it.
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It's what it's a little over.
It's like a half million dollars
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investment and upgrading those
positions, it's not like a
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million dollars, you're not if
you're not asking for a million
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dollars to those positions
levels.
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Right now, you're asking for
about a half million and if
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you're looking at that and
you're saying, we're going to
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give a put a million Into the
coaching pool.
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Well, that feeds a half million
dollars down again, the good
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coaches, you pay them and you
get probably what Thirty to
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fifty thousand dollar upgrades
in the Pacific.
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Maybe the coaches like hey we
gotta let him go but now we can
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bring in a three hundred
thousand dollar guy and so on
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and so forth.
All right, Brian?
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So last few weeks we have got a
couple kreutz couple Unrated, at
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the time, they committed since
they have gotten Stars.
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Let's start in Virginia.
Harrison Saint-Germain out of
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Westfield, High School opened
Chantilly rated as a three star
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tight end, you looked at the
tape on him just a little while
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ago.
Brine my getting Dalton or am I
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getting a gap?
You're good to look.
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Somewhat somebody that's a
little bit closer to James
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Mitchell in terms of skill set.
Um, not quite as obviously at
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the top end of any category
necessarily like that, but I
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will say he's blocking at least
out.
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The gate is probably a little
bit closer to what you would get
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with dolls and but he's
definitely more of a Joker Style
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tight end that has the ability
to block in line as well.
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Pretty good with his hands runs,
pretty clean routes and like I
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said, blocks pretty well in line
and in space, Not a bad player.
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I think, you know, it's kind of
one of those things where we
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keep finding these.
I'm not going to say diamond in
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the rough but guys that are
under recruited and we're going
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to see a lot of this this year
just because there hasn't been
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any any Junior table any of
these guys.
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So there's going to be a lot of
evaluations that look funky at
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first, but the more we get From
whether they have a fall season
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00:28:49,300 --> 00:28:52,000
like some of these guys from
Virginia and some other states,
448
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,900
or we start actually getting
camps this summer, these guys
449
00:28:56,900 --> 00:28:59,000
are going to do.
We're going to see weird jumps
450
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,600
and ratings.
We're going to see guys that are
451
00:29:01,100 --> 00:29:03,400
completely unrelated.
All of a sudden jump to, like a
452
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,000
high three-star, like right out
the gate.
453
00:29:06,300 --> 00:29:08,400
So we're going to see a lot of
funky stuff guys.
454
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,500
So, I mean don't don't
necessarily freaked out because
455
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:16,400
a commit doesn't have, you know,
three or four star next to their
456
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,200
name.
When we're starting to either
457
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:23,500
see flirtations or when we see
their verbal commitment, come
458
00:29:23,500 --> 00:29:25,800
through.
Because, right now, a lot of
459
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,600
these kids, just they have so
little evaluation that.
460
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:34,300
If the guys that we if our
evaluations are correct, it's
461
00:29:34,300 --> 00:29:38,000
going to be a really good thing
for us, so that's going to be
462
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,700
the question though, is, are we
getting the good evaluations
463
00:29:40,700 --> 00:29:41,600
here?
Guys?
464
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,400
Like Adam Lichtenberg have done
a good job of evaluating talent
465
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,900
and getting guys that fit well
in the system, whether ER, it's
466
00:29:48,300 --> 00:29:51,400
guys with a four star next to
their name or guys with a three
467
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:56,300
star or even a fringe Fringe to
Star coming in and guys in the
468
00:29:56,300 --> 00:29:58,700
transfer portal.
So there's going to be a lot of
469
00:29:58,700 --> 00:30:04,400
opportunities to make some moves
here on guys that have been
470
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:08,600
under evaluated and under
recruited through this point in
471
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:12,500
the cycle.
And we've got like,
472
00:30:12,500 --> 00:30:16,200
Saint-Germain, obviously,
Westfield, not only Westfield,
473
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,900
State of Virginia, in general
are playing right now.
474
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:24,400
So, you know, stuff you've seen
on tape, if they one of those
475
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,900
guys, he's like an 80 me get
back there at him up.
476
00:30:27,900 --> 00:30:32,800
Sorry, all for doing it for us.
Everything everything.
477
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:42,100
You know, he's rated as an 84
composite and then in 83 by
478
00:30:42,100 --> 00:30:46,200
24/7.
But again, he's about to get
479
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:50,500
Junior tape as a really good
Junior season and probably five
480
00:30:50,500 --> 00:30:54,800
six games, but it'd be a
two-point bump to the mid 80s.
481
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,700
And then if he has a, if their
camps and he has a good camp,
482
00:30:59,100 --> 00:31:02,300
You know, you seen things on,
take that already say he's
483
00:31:02,300 --> 00:31:04,200
already blocking it which is
great for a Titan him.
484
00:31:05,300 --> 00:31:07,200
He has a potential to be a joker
phone.
485
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,500
You tell me a joker but he
blocks good.
486
00:31:10,500 --> 00:31:16,000
You know, he be getting closer
to that 88-89 you know.
487
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,100
But in those glasses going to
have the opportunity and you
488
00:31:19,100 --> 00:31:23,000
know obviously for him he'll
have this then it'll have next
489
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,100
fall as well to get
re-evaluated.
490
00:31:25,300 --> 00:31:28,900
Yeah but let's come to one more
brine brother already on the
491
00:31:28,900 --> 00:31:34,100
team and Brian Raylan more.
There's a gene that runs in
492
00:31:34,100 --> 00:31:35,100
their family, huh?
Huh.
493
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:42,000
Yes, they got the nasty Jean.
This guy really likes to get
494
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,800
after it in the trenches finish
blocks.
495
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,700
Take guys to the dirt, get the
pancakes.
496
00:31:48,700 --> 00:31:54,800
So I like that element of his
game, kind of, I'd say, raw,
497
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,300
especially in past Pro, so
hopefully that we can clean that
498
00:31:58,300 --> 00:32:03,200
up moving from tackle, which is
what he's been primarily playing
499
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,800
in high school down into guard
more than likely with us.
500
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:10,100
Us is going to help that.
So you know, we'll look to see
501
00:32:10,100 --> 00:32:13,200
how that goes.
He also played defensive end in
502
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:17,500
a three-man front system in his
high school so he's got DN
503
00:32:17,500 --> 00:32:20,600
capability.
Probably three technique
504
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:25,100
d-tackle for us, if in our
system, but more than likely,
505
00:32:25,100 --> 00:32:27,900
he's going to be playing on the
offensive side of the ball at
506
00:32:27,900 --> 00:32:31,100
the guard position solid.
Pick up.
507
00:32:31,100 --> 00:32:37,500
I mean nothing to necessarily
Get excited about but I mean
508
00:32:37,500 --> 00:32:41,100
very solid pick up and I like I
said I think from a run game
509
00:32:41,100 --> 00:32:43,900
perspective and just to having
that nasty Gene you like having
510
00:32:43,900 --> 00:32:48,200
guys like that on your roster.
Absolutely, and he's three star
511
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:53,400
rated 84 and I'm not sure if
Pennsylvania, obviously, it's
512
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,800
one of those things.
Not sure if they're playing a.
513
00:32:59,300 --> 00:33:03,600
Spring season or not.
You know because so many states
514
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,600
it's up and down and it's really
made say this I'm going to keep
515
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:11,200
more of an eye on Virginia than
I am anybody and you know,
516
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:15,400
because if they played great the
tapes out there, he'll have a
517
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:21,300
senior season again we need your
brother's continues at Virginia
518
00:33:21,300 --> 00:33:24,600
Tech.
You know, his biggest offer
519
00:33:24,900 --> 00:33:29,400
essentially at this point in
time long, Virginia Tech's Not a
520
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,200
great offer list.
Well, I'm not going to say, no,
521
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:36,900
I don't like that.
Lot of some Matt schools, you
522
00:33:36,900 --> 00:33:41,800
know, some AAC schools and stuff
like that but again, it's
523
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,100
awkward.
With just the way everything's
524
00:33:45,100 --> 00:33:47,500
going.
The one thing about st.
525
00:33:47,500 --> 00:33:50,000
Germain.
Run that will catch your eye.
526
00:33:50,500 --> 00:33:53,600
Not a huge offer list.
The most catching one.
527
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,600
Wake Forest.
Yep.
528
00:33:56,300 --> 00:33:59,300
We know that at that is diamond
in the rough.
529
00:33:59,300 --> 00:34:03,300
You?
Yes, I Brian.
530
00:34:03,300 --> 00:34:06,800
Let's move on man.
You know over the last few
531
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,800
weeks.
Our coaches have been talking to
532
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:16,500
the Press.
Now, this shit you say, But
533
00:34:16,500 --> 00:34:20,000
there's no point in that there
was some disappointment in
534
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,400
there.
No one has known about them
535
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,199
talking until we're sitting
here.
536
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,500
I'm working in his home office,
me working in my home office,
537
00:34:29,900 --> 00:34:34,000
stop check the Twitter sphere,
Andy bitter might nozzoli or you
538
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,800
know, one of the other beat
writers puts on there.
539
00:34:36,100 --> 00:34:41,400
And this coach said this, we're,
we're having they haven't
540
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,800
processors today.
We're gonna discuss this in a
541
00:34:44,808 --> 00:34:51,600
few months. us with a individual
that is much more into this
542
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:56,100
stuff than we are and our depth
of it discussing this in a way
543
00:34:56,100 --> 00:35:00,100
that Comes from an area of
expertise than we are.
544
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:05,600
We're novices but we kind of
see, we see what's not
545
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:06,800
happening.
She can explain.
546
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,300
What should be happening?
A lot better than weekend.
547
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:14,800
What our assessment is though is
that when we look at something
548
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,400
like this so you've got you
know, set handful of coaches
549
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:22,300
that are talking to the media.
You've got a couple players
550
00:35:22,300 --> 00:35:23,800
here.
They're talking to the media,
551
00:35:24,100 --> 00:35:27,400
but I don't know about.
I mean, I follow Virginia Tech
552
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,500
at WebEx as close as probably
I'd say.
553
00:35:30,500 --> 00:35:35,200
I'm at least in the, you know
what a percentile I'm in.
554
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,800
The 90th percentile of people
that that follow Virginia Tech
555
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,000
football in particular, in
Virginia Tech Athletics in
556
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:45,800
general.
I should know before I see
557
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:50,600
tweets from.
You know, might be Daniel and
558
00:35:50,700 --> 00:35:56,300
Andy bitter and Mike Barber.
At least I should know that this
559
00:35:56,300 --> 00:35:57,900
interview is going to be taking
place.
560
00:35:57,900 --> 00:36:00,900
I should know, because the
official Virginia Tech Twitter
561
00:36:00,900 --> 00:36:04,200
account should let me know.
Hey, these guys are speaking to
562
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:08,400
Media today that way, even if
you're not live streaming, it
563
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,600
even if you're not making it
immediately available to fans,
564
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,200
should they can say okay, well
this is happening.
565
00:36:16,700 --> 00:36:20,100
I'm going to follow might be
Daniels Twitter today, or I'm
566
00:36:20,100 --> 00:36:22,700
gonna follow ND bitters Twitter
today to see what's happening at
567
00:36:22,700 --> 00:36:25,600
this press conference.
Not just Oh, I happen to find on
568
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:29,000
the timeline and then like two
days later, you end up sharing
569
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,500
the video where it's on demand
on Okie sports.
570
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:37,300
Like, these are layups to Bill
Hite for your program.
571
00:36:37,300 --> 00:36:41,400
These are layups free-throws.
Whatever fucking analogy you
572
00:36:41,408 --> 00:36:45,100
want to have 44 easy.
This is the easy stuff.
573
00:36:45,500 --> 00:36:49,800
If you want us to be engaged in
hokey football and be excited
574
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:54,000
about the upcoming season, hype
up the opportunities that you
575
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,600
are presenting Going to get
closer to these new coaches in
576
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,500
some cases or coaches that we,
that have been around.
577
00:37:00,500 --> 00:37:03,400
But we haven't really heard from
very much or players that we
578
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,500
haven't heard from very much.
I mean, Luke's a new to spoke
579
00:37:06,500 --> 00:37:08,400
with the media.
I don't think he's spoken with
580
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:12,400
the media is entire time and
Virginia Tech and no, I didn't
581
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,400
know about it until it was on
hokey sports.
582
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:21,200
Like it was a day later, like,
what's the You know, I'm not
583
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,600
saying that everything has to be
immediately accessible.
584
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:29,600
I get that there is a give and
take with that because my
585
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:34,500
perspective is that it's better
to be be live because if someone
586
00:37:34,500 --> 00:37:37,900
does take it out of context, you
can present the entire video in
587
00:37:37,900 --> 00:37:41,600
context in order to justify it.
I get that mistakes happen with
588
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,400
live video.
You want to have as much control
589
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:48,400
of the content as possible.
So I get that aspect of it and
590
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,100
that's why I'm okay with the
tape too.
591
00:37:50,300 --> 00:37:53,100
They even if I personally
disagree with what I'm not.
592
00:37:53,100 --> 00:37:55,400
Okay, with is not hyping it up
at all.
593
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:57,900
That's what I'm not.
Okay.
594
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:03,500
All I'm going to say is this
when we get that interview that
595
00:38:03,500 --> 00:38:05,600
that is going to be a fire
interview, that's all I'm going
596
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,600
to say.
And let's move on.
597
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,600
Let's move on.
We're going to store Brian Smith
598
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,000
first run.
Think the most interesting thing
599
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,800
that you that came to Bryant rot
from one of the most interesting
600
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,100
things that came from Ron Smith
right off.
601
00:38:18,100 --> 00:38:22,200
The bat was basically him sort
of laying out that DJ Harvey
602
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:28,700
lies, you Howard night Johnson.
Are going to basically be
603
00:38:28,700 --> 00:38:30,900
starting at corner.
He also mentioned a dears
604
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,700
Thompson, has stayed with the
corners, and Mike Hawkins is
605
00:38:33,700 --> 00:38:38,000
officially a safety, any shot
their Brawn, and he, you know,
606
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,500
isn't what in this Norm
defensive?
607
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,300
Yeah, that's going to be the
norm mean.
608
00:38:42,500 --> 00:38:44,000
This is kind of like a stress
test.
609
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:48,200
Let's think about it, that way.
Any guy that you think has the
610
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,100
ability to play corner, you want
to put them in that group,
611
00:38:51,100 --> 00:38:55,200
first, as kind of a stress, test
to see, can they handle it?
612
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:59,800
There can can that work?
Unless there's an absolute need
613
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,400
at a given position in the
secondary.
614
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,800
So, with that being said, it
doesn't surprise me that that
615
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,500
some of these guys are starting
out at cornerback even if that's
616
00:39:09,500 --> 00:39:11,000
not going to be their final
position.
617
00:39:11,900 --> 00:39:16,800
You know talking about nadir
made a note that you spit that I
618
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,900
know that you know when he was
called upon especially in the
619
00:39:18,900 --> 00:39:24,900
Duke game you played a pretty
good game that we had some other
620
00:39:24,900 --> 00:39:29,200
spot duties at cornerback On top
of playing special teams pretty
621
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,900
heavily last year.
So I think he's going to be a
622
00:39:31,908 --> 00:39:34,900
guy that's going to be in that
in that rotation in that
623
00:39:34,900 --> 00:39:39,800
discussion for kind of a too
deep or rotational type duties
624
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:45,400
for us coming in 2021.
Love seeing, you know, it's not
625
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,700
a shocker that DJ Harvey's going
to be cornerback for us.
626
00:39:47,700 --> 00:39:49,600
That's what recruited him as
that's.
627
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:54,400
That's where he plays.
Yeah, I really like what DJ is
628
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,300
bringing to the table, in terms
of talent.
629
00:39:56,300 --> 00:39:59,900
So I'm looking forward to And
what he can do with, with Ryan
630
00:39:59,900 --> 00:40:04,800
Smith with the with the, the
coming fall camp and I like the
631
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,600
Nike Johnson's already working
with them in the spring, so
632
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,400
that's going to be good for him.
Oh, absolutely.
633
00:40:10,500 --> 00:40:13,800
But you know something that he
mentioned, you know, essentially
634
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,700
he was going into last year
expecting to have, you know, two
635
00:40:16,700 --> 00:40:21,700
of the top five corners in the
ACC, to essentially D top Corner
636
00:40:21,700 --> 00:40:25,300
in the country and then Jermaine
have been rated with like top 12
637
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,200
year before.
And Obviously, what happened
638
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,600
with Caleb opting out, and then
Jermaine getting banged and
639
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,400
essentially being banged and
unable to play to his potential,
640
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:37,400
the rest of the year turn, guys.
Like Dorian strong, the nadir
641
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:42,000
Thompson's Brian Murray's.
So what we could have been
642
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:46,600
looking at this year, as a super
green room is actually a I mean
643
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:50,100
a pretty experienced room sort
of top to bottom along with
644
00:40:50,100 --> 00:40:55,000
adding those kind of young guys
into the mix really like that.
645
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,800
Really like that because he was
making the point of like You
646
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,600
know, I don't have to do a trial
by fire with these guys.
647
00:41:02,500 --> 00:41:05,900
Yeah, I mean, you had a trial by
fire in the season that
648
00:41:05,900 --> 00:41:09,300
everything was a trial by fire.
So, exactly, it's kind of nice
649
00:41:09,300 --> 00:41:13,500
having having a little bit of
experience at that position that
650
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,700
you know, you thought you were
going to have last year that
651
00:41:15,700 --> 00:41:19,100
didn't come to fruition.
And like I said, he would even
652
00:41:19,100 --> 00:41:22,000
if a perfect scenario last year
would have occurred, you still
653
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,100
would have been dealing with
guys, like, Dorian strong,
654
00:41:25,100 --> 00:41:27,300
probably getting way more reps
than you would have been.
655
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:31,900
Comfortable with at the start of
the Season, despite how, well he
656
00:41:32,300 --> 00:41:37,800
jumped in there and held up.
So, I like, I like, what we're,
657
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:44,600
I like knowing how what happened
in 2020, I feel better going
658
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:51,700
into this season, knowing what
we have behind Jermaine Waller,
659
00:41:51,700 --> 00:41:54,700
versus how I felt last year, not
really knowing what we had
660
00:41:54,700 --> 00:41:59,500
behind, Caleb and Jermaine.
Nope, so feel better that that's
661
00:41:59,500 --> 00:42:03,400
just me.
But, you know, he did, he
662
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:04,800
mention quick with Jermaine
that.
663
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,500
Basically, you know, he couldn't
speak to the injuries itself and
664
00:42:08,500 --> 00:42:10,400
we get that.
That's a lot of stuff.
665
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:14,700
But, you know, he mentioned how,
you know, he's been crushing the
666
00:42:14,700 --> 00:42:17,400
all-season very self-motivated
and he's becoming a leader in
667
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,200
that room.
Again, we go back to last year
668
00:42:20,500 --> 00:42:24,700
Jermaine was there, sort of
taking over that role and maybe
669
00:42:24,700 --> 00:42:29,500
having a season of not being
able to play being in those guys
670
00:42:29,500 --> 00:42:31,900
ears.
Have now made him the alpha, Of
671
00:42:31,900 --> 00:42:34,400
that room.
Yeah, and I mean, let's think
672
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,800
about it this way.
Caleb didn't opt out until late.
673
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:41,700
So Jermaine, whether whether by
choice or not was kind of all of
674
00:42:41,707 --> 00:42:45,200
a sudden, the de facto Elder
Statesman in that room, and now
675
00:42:45,500 --> 00:42:48,900
he gets an offseason to grow
into that role versus it being
676
00:42:48,900 --> 00:42:53,100
thrust upon Him due to the
situation with covid and Caleb
677
00:42:53,100 --> 00:42:55,600
opting out.
So I think that's going to be
678
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,000
good for him.
It sounds like he's taking over
679
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,000
that leadership role.
And it's going to be good to get
680
00:43:01,008 --> 00:43:03,700
him back on the field in the
leadership role versus more or
681
00:43:03,707 --> 00:43:07,200
less what he was doing last
season as having kind of a off
682
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:13,400
the field or he's, you know,
semi present leadership role
683
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:17,800
because he was so often.
I do either not available or
684
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:22,000
when he was available he was
limited having him be on the
685
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,700
field and hopefully be you know
up to full strength is going to
686
00:43:24,700 --> 00:43:28,100
be good for us.
Going to be absolutely great for
687
00:43:28,100 --> 00:43:29,900
swear on.
Now we already mentioned And
688
00:43:29,900 --> 00:43:33,100
that Smith got the pay bump and
kind of one reason he got the
689
00:43:33,100 --> 00:43:35,900
pay bump mother, you say or not,
they gave him the title passing
690
00:43:35,900 --> 00:43:39,400
game coordinator and brown.
I know what kind of caught your
691
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:44,900
ear was about and he got that
role but it was kind of how he's
692
00:43:44,900 --> 00:43:49,500
built the where he's gotten to
here, you know, his kind of
693
00:43:49,508 --> 00:43:52,300
talked about his journey which
was really a good poignant
694
00:43:52,300 --> 00:43:56,100
thing.
Yes, he talked about being
695
00:43:56,100 --> 00:44:01,300
having GA roles that kind of
helped him move in to where he
696
00:44:01,300 --> 00:44:05,600
is now between GA rolls with
William and Mary and Penn State
697
00:44:06,700 --> 00:44:10,500
working at JMU with a Powerhouse
program at that level.
698
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:16,700
I mean, he's kind of kind of
seen a lot of things from for a
699
00:44:16,700 --> 00:44:20,900
guy that's relatively young and
still up and coming at the
700
00:44:20,900 --> 00:44:23,400
cornerback coaching position of
secondary coaching position.
701
00:44:23,900 --> 00:44:28,500
Um, and I think that that's why
you saw, you know, essentially
702
00:44:28,500 --> 00:44:33,100
what happened going into NC
State with him, being tapped as
703
00:44:33,100 --> 00:44:36,900
the the play caller, emergency
play caller.
704
00:44:36,900 --> 00:44:41,100
If J Hamm is out there.
So I think that that was a
705
00:44:41,100 --> 00:44:45,500
pretty big, big thing, because
he was the backup signal caller
706
00:44:45,500 --> 00:44:49,000
before J, Hamm knew that he had
covid.
707
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:50,600
So this was something that was
planned.
708
00:44:51,900 --> 00:44:55,600
Well, in advance of the
emergency situation that that
709
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,500
resulted in that being what they
went with.
710
00:44:58,500 --> 00:45:03,100
So that speaks a lot to the
trust that they have in Smith as
711
00:45:03,100 --> 00:45:08,200
a young coach it, absolutely,
especially being the second in
712
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,600
command on that, you know, the
play calling thing, but then you
713
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:16,600
start, you know, I think you
mentioned it but Get letting him
714
00:45:16,700 --> 00:45:19,800
try different things in his room
as a young coach.
715
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,500
I'm sure there are a lot of
young coaches that it's
716
00:45:22,500 --> 00:45:24,300
basically, you need to follow
the script.
717
00:45:24,300 --> 00:45:27,400
This is what you do where you
already said it.
718
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,400
They trust him they're giving it
open.
719
00:45:30,100 --> 00:45:31,400
Okay.
Something else, they trust them
720
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:32,800
with Brian.
They trust him with Virginia
721
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,400
recruiting to the line of stuck
out.
722
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:40,500
We want to keep the Virginia
boys home, the man at resonated
723
00:45:40,500 --> 00:45:45,600
as I was as we were listening to
it discuss JC about JC's,
724
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:51,800
experience up and down the 95
Corridor and Richmond and Nova
725
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:59,100
64 eastbound I-64 Corridor down
the 75.
726
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,800
Like if you listen to that, he's
speaking the language to
727
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,700
Virginia.
Those are the corridors.
728
00:46:03,900 --> 00:46:08,000
Those are the areas we need to
recruit big and it seems like
729
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,600
they're locked in on it for this
year.
730
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,100
They're locked in on VA.
I'll yeah.
731
00:46:14,100 --> 00:46:17,200
I mean, I think him and JC,
you're going to do some, some
732
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:20,200
pretty big things.
Because Smith seems like a
733
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,300
really good communicator.
JC is a good communicator.
734
00:46:23,300 --> 00:46:26,500
He's got a ton of contacts
especially with the High School
735
00:46:26,500 --> 00:46:31,800
coaches you know, good Avenues
to pursue and you know,
736
00:46:32,300 --> 00:46:35,400
relationships to cultivate and I
think that's going to be a big
737
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,800
thing and you know, we haven't
seen the success.
738
00:46:38,900 --> 00:46:41,200
Is that we'd like to see
recruiting Virginia in the last
739
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:45,300
few years and you know, whether
we see it come to fruition or
740
00:46:45,300 --> 00:46:48,000
not.
You at least know, they're
741
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:52,000
doubling down on it.
The emphasis has there and
742
00:46:52,700 --> 00:46:54,400
that's a start.
That's, that's something to
743
00:46:54,408 --> 00:46:57,700
build off of.
Absolutely definitely something
744
00:46:57,700 --> 00:47:02,600
big to build off of.
And again, you've got to
745
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:07,200
Homegrown guys with Smith and
ham, obviously, JC with all the
746
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:11,100
connections between playing it
Tech being a ga attack.
747
00:47:12,300 --> 00:47:14,200
Coaching at JM using coach of it
Marshall.
748
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:18,800
He's basically been part of this
state for 25 plus years.
749
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,500
So yeah, we're getting more on
him a little bit.
750
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,600
Oh yes.
But let's next let's go to Adam
751
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,300
like them Berg.
Hey Brian.
752
00:47:28,300 --> 00:47:32,500
How many are you running backs?
We got, we got a fuck ton of
753
00:47:32,500 --> 00:47:35,800
running backs, man.
I don't know if that's like a
754
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,200
unit of measurement that we can
count here, but I'm going to
755
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:43,100
call it a fuck ton and it is and
I love Of what he said, man.
756
00:47:43,100 --> 00:47:47,900
He was very kind of upfront.
Like, oh, wait Smith on the mic,
757
00:47:48,300 --> 00:47:51,300
I'm real like tandberg.
I think shocked me and Brian,
758
00:47:51,300 --> 00:47:55,100
you know, no notes in front of
them, but very, very articulate,
759
00:47:55,500 --> 00:47:59,700
very to-the-point knowledge
base, very knowledge, straight
760
00:47:59,700 --> 00:48:02,200
straight forward to like
straight shooter didn't like
761
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,800
didn't didn't get down rabbit
holes or anything like that.
762
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:09,200
Very to-the-point but but
explained himself very well.
763
00:48:10,300 --> 00:48:12,600
I love what you talked about the
crowded back there to get asked
764
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,400
about it.
And basically said he wants to
765
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,100
have a full evaluation of all
the running backs in the spring,
766
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:23,100
you know, and basically an
organization of the running
767
00:48:23,100 --> 00:48:26,700
back, every rep is important.
Every mistake is important to
768
00:48:26,700 --> 00:48:31,800
his guys, but he, he made
something when he after he said,
769
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,300
that sort of stuff.
Because, you know, somebody
770
00:48:34,300 --> 00:48:36,600
asked about the portal and he
was just like, you know what?
771
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:40,400
After this spring You don't hear
this often.
772
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,200
We're going to have open and
honest conversation with every
773
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:47,400
running back in the room.
Which I to me, you don't hear
774
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:52,000
coaches, say that at all because
I he's telling them he's going
775
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,600
to tell guys.
Yep, hey, you're stepping up.
776
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,400
You might not be on the too deep
this year or getting a lot of
777
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:58,900
reps.
But you're working there or
778
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,600
listen, you might need to you
might need to get in the
779
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,900
Portland.
Yeah I mean and I think that's a
780
00:49:05,908 --> 00:49:07,800
big thing.
He talked about a couple guys
781
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:12,400
that have the potential ability
to make position change choices
782
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,900
at the end of the spring and
then some guys that he's just
783
00:49:14,900 --> 00:49:17,000
going to have opened.
A conversation like amen.
784
00:49:17,900 --> 00:49:22,200
You know, you're not touching
the four or five deep at running
785
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,400
back here so you're probably not
going to be getting any reps
786
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,700
come this fall.
You're here are some choices you
787
00:49:27,700 --> 00:49:29,900
can do, you can stick it out,
you know, whatever.
788
00:49:29,900 --> 00:49:32,800
Maybe you know, you can see what
the transfer portal holes or you
789
00:49:32,808 --> 00:49:36,400
can look at change of positions
and get an opportunity, either
790
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,000
on the other side of the ball or
at another position on offense,
791
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:40,800
whether it's wide receiver, or
something else.
792
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,400
But just having this, I mean,
that's that's a good.
793
00:49:45,700 --> 00:49:48,900
That's refreshing to hear from
me because it sounds like we're
794
00:49:48,900 --> 00:49:53,200
going to really try to get this
running back room where it needs
795
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:56,200
to be and it's going to start
with the spring and really
796
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,900
seeing what all these guys can
bring to the table.
797
00:49:58,900 --> 00:50:03,700
Because I know I've said it on
here before it's hard to get
798
00:50:03,700 --> 00:50:05,500
those type of evaluations in the
fall.
799
00:50:05,500 --> 00:50:10,500
You're you're focusing so much
on who were my best three to
800
00:50:10,500 --> 00:50:14,600
four guys at the position and
not looking at, you know, the
801
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:19,100
down Channel situation and we
were already thick at running
802
00:50:19,100 --> 00:50:21,400
back going into fall, but there
wasn't a whole lot of
803
00:50:21,500 --> 00:50:23,700
evaluation.
And so, many of the guys that we
804
00:50:23,700 --> 00:50:28,400
were bringing on where either
transfers or freshman, or green
805
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:32,000
guys that are coming from
giucose and things like that.
806
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,600
So, If there wasn't a lot of
that evaluation that could take
807
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:37,900
place last year and getting a
chance to do that.
808
00:50:37,900 --> 00:50:40,800
With such a crowded back.
Feel is going to be nice because
809
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:45,800
will at least be able to know we
have Beyond you know the first
810
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:49,500
two to three guys and see if
there's some guys that may fit
811
00:50:49,500 --> 00:50:52,600
somewhere else and guys that can
open up roster spots that we can
812
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:56,700
fill with, with other need
positions, because we can't keep
813
00:50:56,700 --> 00:51:00,600
doing this thing where we load
up on, you know, Exposition one
814
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:02,800
year and we opposition the next
year and then N.
815
00:51:03,900 --> 00:51:06,600
You know, put ourselves in a
situation where we're thin at
816
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:11,700
certain positions every year
going into the new season, true
817
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,400
well, Brian.
He also said something that
818
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:18,500
absolutely got you a static as
we were listening to it.
819
00:51:21,300 --> 00:51:26,800
Yes, he did.
Apparently we're to be working
820
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:30,000
with with, to back looks in the
spring two of them.
821
00:51:31,900 --> 00:51:36,500
Is as I sent Brian.
Go on, let's go.
822
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:44,800
Tell me more, tell me more.
Yeah, so I'll be we had talked
823
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:46,200
about.
I will take a Victory lap on
824
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:47,200
this.
I know I've already taken a
825
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:51,800
small one earlier on the court,
Nelson situation within and
826
00:51:51,808 --> 00:51:54,700
hooker, but I will take another
Victory lap on, you know,
827
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:59,600
someone that said before
Blackshear even got his waiver,
828
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:08,100
that we need to be looking at 21
Personnel, a lot and using the
829
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,800
Back as kind of a hybrid Wing
slot.
830
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,800
Receiver that can also do some
things out of the backfield.
831
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,400
We've got Blackshear on the
roster.
832
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,100
Now we're bringing in a guy,
like, chance, black going
833
00:52:20,100 --> 00:52:22,300
forward.
We've got a couple other guys
834
00:52:22,300 --> 00:52:25,500
that are versatile, that can do
stuff in that type of situation.
835
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,400
Let's take advantage of that,
let's not.
836
00:52:30,900 --> 00:52:34,000
Let's not pigeonhole guys into.
Okay, well, you're a running
837
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:35,700
back.
So you have to carry the ball
838
00:52:35,700 --> 00:52:42,500
out of the backfield in inside
and outside Zone, like it was so
839
00:52:42,500 --> 00:52:45,300
and I'll be I was glad that we
finally, the last, what?
840
00:52:45,300 --> 00:52:48,300
Two or three games got
Blackshear more involved in the
841
00:52:48,300 --> 00:52:52,100
passing game from the slot
position in from the wing and
842
00:52:52,100 --> 00:52:55,700
doing things that weren't just,
you know, you line up next to
843
00:52:55,700 --> 00:52:57,200
the quarterback and take the
hand off.
844
00:52:58,700 --> 00:53:02,600
So, I mean that was nice but you
know, I like that he's still
845
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:06,000
gonna be working out of the
running back room, but the fact
846
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,500
that we're going to be doing
different things with black
847
00:53:09,500 --> 00:53:13,300
sharing with other guys of the
similar type of skill set.
848
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,700
Whether that's Keshawn king or
chance, black, or anybody else?
849
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,200
Yeah, that's only going to pay
dividends for us.
850
00:53:20,500 --> 00:53:22,000
I mean, there's no downside to
that.
851
00:53:22,900 --> 00:53:25,600
And one thing, you all the black
sheer thing that always got you,
852
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:29,100
I wish it coach, I don't care if
it was one thick or Nielsen like
853
00:53:29,100 --> 00:53:31,800
them Burg someone would have
came out.
854
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,400
And just kind of said, the
blacks here thing and basically
855
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:40,500
said, you know, He was, he was
essentially Goering, it's so
856
00:53:40,500 --> 00:53:44,100
late.
It was just too late for us, but
857
00:53:44,100 --> 00:53:46,900
Brian, we had this discussion,
is this, we were talking about
858
00:53:46,900 --> 00:53:49,900
that.
Well, here's the thing, you have
859
00:53:49,900 --> 00:53:56,300
some guys who are maybe not a
carbon copy Of Raheem
860
00:53:56,300 --> 00:53:59,700
Blackshear, but they could do
some of the things he did and
861
00:53:59,700 --> 00:54:01,400
it's sort of me.
And you started discussing, it's
862
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:05,900
like, why wouldn't you start
essentially showing looks giving
863
00:54:05,900 --> 00:54:11,000
those guys out of interchanging
with, Rahim, to me, it says
864
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,500
something about certain people
of the coaching staff.
865
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:18,900
Not being, you know up here, not
thinking like that.
866
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,700
But neither here nor there,
somebody should have just said
867
00:54:21,700 --> 00:54:25,000
that it would have a made Brian
less pissed off during certain
868
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:28,700
games.
Next year and you know things
869
00:54:28,700 --> 00:54:31,800
like that.
Brian he he mentioned a couple
870
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:33,800
things, you know, Jalen
Holtzman.
871
00:54:33,900 --> 00:54:37,300
Obviously we feel generous
probably, you know, that name is
872
00:54:37,300 --> 00:54:39,600
gonna be penciled in at the top
of the list away here and
873
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:43,500
especially the back half of the
season but he hit Omar Ali and
874
00:54:43,500 --> 00:54:46,500
he hit on Keshawn King.
What were your thoughts about?
875
00:54:46,500 --> 00:54:48,900
You know, how he discussed those
two guys.
876
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,000
Yeah, I mean the big thing that
stood out for me with Marco Lee
877
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:56,500
and this kind of explains why
maybe he didn't get as many
878
00:54:56,500 --> 00:55:00,900
looks until late in the season
last year is that he was still
879
00:55:00,900 --> 00:55:05,700
learning the system, especially
what the running back does.
880
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,300
When they don't have their, have
the football in their hands.
881
00:55:09,100 --> 00:55:11,900
And that makes a lot of sense in
terms of a guy, like Marco
882
00:55:11,900 --> 00:55:15,500
coming into the system, you
know?
883
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:20,600
I'll compare him a little bit
with rain Blackshear who while
884
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:24,800
he didn't learn the system.
He had been in a system that he
885
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:26,900
had to do all those things
already.
886
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:31,000
He had to work without the
football weather from the slot
887
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:32,800
position or from the running
back position.
888
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:38,300
So he was little bit more
seasoned and ready to contribute
889
00:55:38,300 --> 00:55:40,800
even though he wasn't
necessarily a master of this
890
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:44,400
current system, whereas a guy
like Marco Lee is for the most
891
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:50,500
part, Learning a lot of.
The things that he does without
892
00:55:50,500 --> 00:55:53,700
the football in his hands, for
the first time, he's never done
893
00:55:53,700 --> 00:55:56,000
it in a college football game at
this level.
894
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:59,100
So, that's something that's
going to take some time to come
895
00:55:59,100 --> 00:56:03,900
along and especially not having
spring having a very different
896
00:56:04,900 --> 00:56:06,900
fall camp.
And let's talk about fall Camp
897
00:56:06,900 --> 00:56:09,400
because you talked about it with
the black sheer thing.
898
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:16,900
Fall Camp, reps are finite and
you're trying to find.
899
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,600
Kind of the best two or three
guys, you can put on the field.
900
00:56:21,900 --> 00:56:25,300
So at the running back position
in this is where the black sure
901
00:56:25,300 --> 00:56:26,500
thing.
Your talk about makes more
902
00:56:26,500 --> 00:56:29,800
sense.
The waiver didn't come in till
903
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:33,300
late.
You didn't until you got the
904
00:56:33,300 --> 00:56:35,300
waiver.
You couldn't justify taking reps
905
00:56:35,300 --> 00:56:39,400
from other guys.
Just to put blacks you're out
906
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,400
there for X number of reps or
whatever.
907
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,600
The second team reps are and all
that stuff.
908
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:48,400
You know, you had Keshawn King
that probably came in at a
909
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:50,700
weight that you weren't
comfortable with is him being
910
00:56:50,700 --> 00:56:53,100
the primary spell back.
He had some other injuries, he
911
00:56:53,100 --> 00:56:56,900
was dealing with.
There was a several several
912
00:56:56,900 --> 00:56:59,200
things that were going on for
Keyshawn King.
913
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:04,300
You had everybody else other
than Jalen Holston that was
914
00:57:04,300 --> 00:57:08,000
very, very green.
In this system.
915
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:12,100
So I mean if you say there's a
misstep in all of this, in terms
916
00:57:12,100 --> 00:57:16,000
of who got carries who got
touches etc etc.
917
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:20,500
In 2020 Holston, not getting as
many touches early as probably
918
00:57:20,500 --> 00:57:25,200
the the most egregious error
here, everything else is
919
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:30,300
explainable.
So that's kind of what I based
920
00:57:30,300 --> 00:57:33,600
on the conversation that
Lichtenberg had with the media.
921
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,900
That's kind of where I came out.
Yeah.
922
00:57:38,100 --> 00:57:41,600
In, you know, but that is what
it was last year.
923
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:46,000
You know, you you was on the Fly
and we went five and six, it was
924
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:49,800
not the expectations we wanted.
We did have a bunch of new guys
925
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,000
there.
Maybe, maybe that truly
926
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:52,700
satisfying.
The eight ball.
927
00:57:52,707 --> 00:57:55,400
Maybe I'm trying to be an
optimist right now, but
928
00:57:55,700 --> 00:57:58,700
something, you know, I was
critical of the Luxembourg
929
00:57:58,700 --> 00:58:02,000
higher didn't like it, but as
you start reading more and more
930
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:06,200
and you start listening to him,
I mean, he grinded his ass off.
931
00:58:06,900 --> 00:58:10,300
Yep.
Big time I mean he's been in
932
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:15,600
admin roles, he's been in GA
roles, he's been in.
933
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:20,700
I mean 12 years until you get
your first position coach role
934
00:58:21,100 --> 00:58:22,900
and doing a bunch of different
things.
935
00:58:23,900 --> 00:58:27,600
Yes, off the field and behind
the scenes.
936
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:31,300
So, I mean there's been a lot of
things that he's seen and I
937
00:58:31,300 --> 00:58:35,500
think, Of anybody.
He's kind of got a better CEO
938
00:58:35,500 --> 00:58:39,400
type vision of at least, from
the offensive side of things.
939
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:43,300
Than even, you know, your
coordinator has probably
940
00:58:43,300 --> 00:58:45,700
probably better than anybody
other than 20 on the staff.
941
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:48,500
True.
And he loves football.
942
00:58:48,900 --> 00:58:52,600
There's are you don't if you
guys look at his journey started
943
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,800
in 2007, but he's probably in
his mid-20s.
944
00:58:57,100 --> 00:58:59,800
Two.
Now that guy loves football,
945
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:05,700
there is not a doubt about that
and you know, Brian wrote down
946
00:59:05,700 --> 00:59:09,300
this quote, and basically, he's
been grinding his whole life,
947
00:59:10,300 --> 00:59:13,800
you know?
And to have somebody like that
948
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:15,400
with that mentality He Walked on
it.
949
00:59:15,408 --> 00:59:21,300
Nebraska again, his personality
on the microphone, it's kind of
950
00:59:21,300 --> 00:59:22,600
impressive.
He mentioned his parents were
951
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:25,500
teachers, so obviously paying
for all these important people,
952
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:30,300
you know, talks about the
recruiting game being 24/7
953
00:59:30,300 --> 00:59:32,100
non-stop.
You can't stop.
954
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:39,000
You know, I'm if he puts out
another 1,000 yard, rusher in a
955
00:59:39,500 --> 00:59:44,000
bind said earlier, maybe I have
to store born the like den Berg
956
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:48,800
trains.
All right, let's move on the
957
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:53,500
lowest man on the totem pole.
Currently Jack, Tyler, you know,
958
00:59:53,500 --> 00:59:56,900
first of all those Tracy plays
doing last year that Jack Tyler
959
00:59:56,900 --> 00:59:59,000
was the emergency emergency play
caller.
960
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:02,500
You know, all Smith was the
emergency play caller as
961
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:07,600
Discussed earlier.
You know that's still a head
962
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:11,900
scratcher for me but I mean that
that's a different discussion or
963
01:00:11,900 --> 01:00:15,900
but yeah, we're was Clays.
And why was Clay's not giving
964
01:00:15,900 --> 01:00:19,100
this responsibility.
So like I'm not sure if Clay's
965
01:00:19,100 --> 01:00:23,700
showed up and just didn't give a
shit or he wasn't there or what
966
01:00:23,700 --> 01:00:25,600
like Tracy.
Claeys you obviously a good
967
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:30,600
coach like you don't have the
length career and success that
968
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:32,500
Clays has without being a
pretty.
969
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:36,800
Decent, and respectable coach.
I know he was coaching number
970
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:40,200
one out of position in terms of
what he's traditionally.
971
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:47,000
Coached number two, In a
situation where he's more of a
972
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:52,800
mentor versus a leader which may
be just a different Dynamic from
973
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:55,200
him, whatever it was, it didn't
work.
974
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:59,500
And you know this is definitely
an addition by subtraction
975
01:00:59,500 --> 01:01:02,500
situation in my mind getting
Jack as the primary linebacker
976
01:01:02,500 --> 01:01:06,800
coach.
Absolutely and again jack that
977
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:10,600
guy walked on then became a
starred in Mike linebacker has
978
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:15,400
essentially again.
You know, he worked his way,
979
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:19,100
went to JMU came back here in
the way it's down in the
980
01:01:19,100 --> 01:01:21,600
interview.
He had a potential chance last
981
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:25,700
year at maybe taking a lower
jaw, but he decided to stay
982
01:01:25,700 --> 01:01:29,600
again.
The Lure of Virginia Tech, we
983
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:33,100
talked about a talked about 420
in a very high regard.
984
01:01:33,100 --> 01:01:34,700
Talked about him as a Amir
coaches.
985
01:01:34,700 --> 01:01:39,000
Anyone in the program is on the
right track and I know these
986
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:42,000
guys are, we may judge about
that.
987
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:57,500
I better see Improvement that be
terrible.
988
01:01:57,900 --> 01:02:01,100
But talked about himself.
As a coach you want to try to
989
01:02:01,100 --> 01:02:03,900
stay even Keel.
Never too high, never to do.
990
01:02:04,100 --> 01:02:07,900
Get caught up in the moment
mature room.
991
01:02:07,900 --> 01:02:11,700
You know, you know, he's
essentially trying to take his
992
01:02:12,500 --> 01:02:14,900
plane self, bringing it to a
coaching self.
993
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:17,200
What I hope he can do with the
guys.
994
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:20,400
We have, because we've got a
good core right now.
995
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:26,800
Who are so much physically more
gifted than Jack ever was, but
996
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:31,600
if they can get the mind of
Jack, Tyler, and Dax and
997
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:37,800
Tisdale's, and Dean's and key,
Sean's bodies, that's gonna be a
998
01:02:37,808 --> 01:02:41,100
nasty room and I know that is a
key to Springs.
999
01:02:41,100 --> 01:02:43,300
Getting the depth back in that
room.
1000
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:47,600
For this year.
Yeah, yeah, that definitely
1001
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:49,400
that.
And, I mean, he talked about,
1002
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:52,600
you know, talked about Dax
talked about Tisdale, he said
1003
01:02:53,300 --> 01:02:56,800
for Tisdale, you know, sky's the
limit for him as a player.
1004
01:02:56,800 --> 01:03:02,600
He's put on some good weight,
this spring for the 2019, yeah,
1005
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:03,700
yeah.
In a month.
1006
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:07,600
Yeah.
But apparently, you know,
1007
01:03:08,300 --> 01:03:11,000
maturing in terms of how he's
approaching the game.
1008
01:03:11,700 --> 01:03:14,900
How is approaching preparation
for practice and for, Four
1009
01:03:14,900 --> 01:03:16,800
games.
So I think that's going to be
1010
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:19,400
important in terms of his growth
because I mean, we talked about
1011
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:23,400
it on the podcast a lot of times
in 2020.
1012
01:03:24,300 --> 01:03:28,100
It wasn't so much that Tisdale
looked even with his weight
1013
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:31,600
overmatched is that he wasn't
where he needed to be.
1014
01:03:33,500 --> 01:03:36,700
It looked like he didn't really,
he wasn't comfortable in the
1015
01:03:36,700 --> 01:03:40,500
scheme at all.
There were moments where he was
1016
01:03:40,500 --> 01:03:43,000
there.
He was disruptive but when he
1017
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:47,300
wasn't, it, totally created a
big chunk play for the other
1018
01:03:47,300 --> 01:03:50,400
offense.
So, you know, getting more
1019
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:52,900
preparation in there.
And I think he said the
1020
01:03:52,908 --> 01:03:55,400
maturity, I know he had a son,
what?
1021
01:03:55,400 --> 01:04:01,400
Right at the end of the season
or so that definitely, we can
1022
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:03,100
speak to that.
That definitely matures you
1023
01:04:03,100 --> 01:04:05,600
pretty quick.
So you can even if you have one
1024
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:08,600
at 29 like me and you're still
just a man show.
1025
01:04:08,700 --> 01:04:11,900
Child but it'll mature you up
real quick.
1026
01:04:11,900 --> 01:04:17,400
Yeah so so for sure they're
talked about Dax and sliding
1027
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:19,700
into Mike and that's going to be
a big move for him.
1028
01:04:19,700 --> 01:04:24,100
I know we've talked about that a
little bit earlier in some of
1029
01:04:24,100 --> 01:04:26,200
the other things we were talking
about.
1030
01:04:27,100 --> 01:04:29,600
For the, for the offseason
grades and stuff like that.
1031
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:35,000
But Dax moving to Mike is going
to be big for his improved and I
1032
01:04:35,008 --> 01:04:37,800
think you're going to see a
pretty big jump in the quality
1033
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:40,300
of his play.
I don't think you're going to
1034
01:04:40,308 --> 01:04:44,300
see quite as many decks haters
out there and I get the decks
1035
01:04:44,300 --> 01:04:46,000
hate.
I gotta understand it.
1036
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:51,200
It's definitely, I mean there's
there's elements of like, the
1037
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:57,800
whole the fanbase doesn't help
it because the fanbase embraced
1038
01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:02,300
him right away and sometimes
when you put a guy on a pedestal
1039
01:05:02,300 --> 01:05:07,400
that hasn't put the product on
the field to earn necessarily
1040
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:10,200
that recognition, there's
there's blowback, right?
1041
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:13,500
You see it all the time you saw
with Tim Tebow, for example in
1042
01:05:13,500 --> 01:05:16,600
the NFL.
I mean there's so many classic
1043
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:20,800
examples of guys that They get
put on a pedestal based on
1044
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:23,900
whether it's character, whether
it's their recruiting rankings,
1045
01:05:23,900 --> 01:05:28,200
whether it's, you know, how they
play out the gate, whatever it
1046
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:32,600
is, they get elevated to an
expectation level out the gate.
1047
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:35,500
And then when they don't want
some of those expectations going
1048
01:05:35,500 --> 01:05:39,600
forward, Yeah, you get you get
some blowback from certain parts
1049
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:42,100
of the fan base and there's a me
some people that's that, you
1050
01:05:42,100 --> 01:05:44,400
know, keep him on there and
that's where that friction is
1051
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:45,500
created.
Right?
1052
01:05:45,700 --> 01:05:49,800
So we've got guys, it's that's
still keep Dax at this pedestal
1053
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:52,400
level that we expected him to
play at and then there's
1054
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:54,600
everybody else and saying, well
he's not playing at that level.
1055
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:56,700
Stop putting him up there.
You know.
1056
01:05:56,800 --> 01:06:02,700
Yeah you get that element.
But the Jacks point and we've
1057
01:06:02,700 --> 01:06:05,700
said it in the past, that's
wasn't a backer.
1058
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:09,800
The reason that you play backers
because he understood his
1059
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:12,500
liabilities and he tried to
minimize them but he said it
1060
01:06:12,500 --> 01:06:14,300
straight up.
His size is physical.
1061
01:06:14,300 --> 01:06:18,200
Makeup is more suited for Mike
as the borderline athleticism
1062
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:21,300
played backer, but not the full
blown that you need to.
1063
01:06:21,700 --> 01:06:24,400
And then he kind of complimented
that Dax is more of a
1064
01:06:24,408 --> 01:06:27,700
quarterback on the defense well
that couldn't be the quarterback
1065
01:06:27,700 --> 01:06:30,300
because Brooke was a hell of a
quarterback on defense.
1066
01:06:30,900 --> 01:06:34,700
So, back again, didn't get to
show that sort of leadership
1067
01:06:34,700 --> 01:06:37,400
role in the mic.
Yes, he's The rah-rah guy.
1068
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:38,500
Yes.
He claps his hands.
1069
01:06:38,500 --> 01:06:40,000
Yes.
He swings the towel, which you
1070
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:42,400
need that sort of energy.
I think you're going to see a
1071
01:06:42,408 --> 01:06:46,500
little bit different, you talked
about and being the quarterback,
1072
01:06:46,500 --> 01:06:49,900
him being the coach on the field
in Brian, you've mentioned a
1073
01:06:49,908 --> 01:06:57,300
couple times to me, you know, So
many times it's like deck was in
1074
01:06:57,300 --> 01:07:02,200
the right spot but he couldn't
finish or you know Dak just was
1075
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:06,200
once a quarter step behind where
he needed to be at the back or
1076
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:07,600
spot.
Yep.
1077
01:07:08,500 --> 01:07:12,900
Dax was rarely out of position.
Dax's problem was that Dax
1078
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:16,700
couldn't athletically.
Hang with some of the
1079
01:07:16,700 --> 01:07:20,300
responsibilities he was given
and sometimes when he was there
1080
01:07:20,300 --> 01:07:23,800
to make a play sometimes you
miss a tackle or he'd get
1081
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:31,800
absorbed. by block, but Again, I
say it all the time like you
1082
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:35,700
know 60% of a good defensive
play is being where the fuck you
1083
01:07:35,707 --> 01:07:39,400
need to be.
And he pretty much every play he
1084
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:43,800
was wearing needed to be.
So now he that's a start that's
1085
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:46,300
a start in now he's the
quarterback of the defense.
1086
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:49,900
He's playing in a position where
he won't be as much of a
1087
01:07:49,900 --> 01:07:52,500
liability athletically.
Yep.
1088
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:54,400
So I think you're going to see
some good things from him.
1089
01:07:54,900 --> 01:07:57,100
I want to see him work on.
Tackling I want to see him work
1090
01:07:57,100 --> 01:07:59,000
on shedding blocks.
That's still going to be two
1091
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:04,600
areas that he has to get better
in regardless of backer or Mike
1092
01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:07,200
and he's going to have to get
better.
1093
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:09,900
Especially at shedding the
blocks from the mic perspective.
1094
01:08:09,900 --> 01:08:12,700
But I think overall, I think
he's going to do a good job.
1095
01:08:13,700 --> 01:08:15,300
I think you're probably going to
see.
1096
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:19,899
I think he in this system, he's
going to be better than Rook
1097
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:26,100
because we saw get kind of
exposed a little bit because of
1098
01:08:26,100 --> 01:08:28,300
his at lack of athleticism last
year.
1099
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:33,300
And his probably not quite being
at his peak level of
1100
01:08:33,700 --> 01:08:39,899
conditioning coming into Camp
because so this system having
1101
01:08:39,899 --> 01:08:41,600
more athletic linebackers is
better.
1102
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:46,000
So you're talking about a guy
that's already was playing in a
1103
01:08:46,100 --> 01:08:49,200
any area that requires more
athleticism last year and moving
1104
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:52,200
him into an area that requires
less.
1105
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:56,500
But like I said, I think out the
gate, he's a better athlete than
1106
01:08:56,500 --> 01:08:59,399
Rook, but he's going to have to
work on some of those other
1107
01:08:59,399 --> 01:09:01,300
things.
A truck was really good at like
1108
01:09:01,700 --> 01:09:05,000
not getting blocked because at
that shit Excel.
1109
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:10,300
Yeah, yes and shedding.
Good Lord could look for we jump
1110
01:09:10,300 --> 01:09:19,300
over JC price one last little
quote from Jack in thing about
1111
01:09:19,300 --> 01:09:23,700
this brand he says man coach
Fuente is a very loyal human
1112
01:09:23,700 --> 01:09:27,500
being very little coach, reminds
me of somebody else.
1113
01:09:27,500 --> 01:09:32,100
It was in Blacksburg.
And many times, we screamed as
1114
01:09:32,100 --> 01:09:36,100
fans, we want people fired and
people didn't get fired.
1115
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:40,899
And Bud said it, you keep
hearing it even from these young
1116
01:09:40,899 --> 01:09:46,899
guys coming in about how they
remind, Current coach with
1117
01:09:46,899 --> 01:09:48,300
former coach.
Yep.
1118
01:09:48,300 --> 01:09:51,100
But let's jump up.
JC, who played for that former
1119
01:09:51,100 --> 01:09:54,300
coach.
And when the first line comes
1120
01:09:54,300 --> 01:09:57,800
out of his mouth is, it's my
dream to return to Blacksburg
1121
01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:01,400
man.
That's it man.
1122
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:03,600
You know they hired the right
person?
1123
01:10:03,900 --> 01:10:07,500
Yep.
Nothing else needed to be said
1124
01:10:07,700 --> 01:10:12,700
about that higher when he said
that, I mean the Jaycees a
1125
01:10:12,700 --> 01:10:18,500
legend, you know, it was part of
that 95 team and everything but
1126
01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:26,600
he's coming in, he's a veteran,
he's a grinder and, you know, He
1127
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:29,300
already has somewhat of a
relationship with people on the
1128
01:10:29,300 --> 01:10:31,000
staff.
You know, he had been invited by
1129
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:35,000
for one day to the summer camps
coming down from Huntington, you
1130
01:10:35,008 --> 01:10:37,300
know, essentially Scout players
and some people say, well, why
1131
01:10:37,300 --> 01:10:39,800
would you do that?
It's done all over the place
1132
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:47,300
that, you know, don't say it's
not and you know, you wrote this
1133
01:10:47,300 --> 01:10:47,900
down.
Brian.
1134
01:10:47,900 --> 01:10:53,200
I want to credit with it, but
you feel like JC is a guy that
1135
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:55,700
is going to provide that will
provide an input.
1136
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:57,500
Understand, he's part of a
whole.
1137
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:00,800
Yeah.
And where would I put that in?
1138
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:04,000
Was when he was asked and he
actually asked for a
1139
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:09,700
clarification about the question
kind of asked about what things
1140
01:11:09,700 --> 01:11:14,500
from his experience at Virginia
Tech can he used to mold and
1141
01:11:14,500 --> 01:11:16,700
change what's happening on the
current staff?
1142
01:11:16,700 --> 01:11:19,800
And he's more.
He seems like a guy that will
1143
01:11:21,300 --> 01:11:25,700
speak up when there's something
to be said, but realizing that
1144
01:11:26,100 --> 01:11:29,100
His perspective is not the one.
I'm not the only one that
1145
01:11:29,100 --> 01:11:32,500
matters and he wants to kind of
work within the framework of
1146
01:11:32,500 --> 01:11:36,300
what the program is working
towards and understands his role
1147
01:11:36,300 --> 01:11:40,800
but also understands that he is
going to be leaned on for some
1148
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:45,200
of this thing because he does
have ties to the Glory Days.
1149
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:47,600
If you will, he does have ties
to the former staff.
1150
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:52,500
He does understand what it takes
to win at this University.
1151
01:11:52,500 --> 01:11:55,200
So there are elements that he's
going to bring that, he's going
1152
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:56,600
to be the guy that sleeps.
Leaned on.
1153
01:11:57,200 --> 01:12:01,600
But he also understands that,
you know, his voice isn't the
1154
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:03,600
one that needs to be the loudest
all the time.
1155
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:09,400
Yeah.
And you see that that's, that's
1156
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:11,000
kind of a type of person.
You mean, because I have a
1157
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:14,100
feeling when his voice does Get
Loud, people will listen.
1158
01:12:14,500 --> 01:12:18,300
He also discussed his
relationship with J Hamm in
1159
01:12:18,300 --> 01:12:21,900
actually similar to Jack.
We just discussed.
1160
01:12:21,900 --> 01:12:26,700
Jack had some offers They
offered J hammock position when
1161
01:12:26,700 --> 01:12:30,000
he was in that director of
player Personnel position.
1162
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:32,100
They offered him an on-field
position and obviously he
1163
01:12:32,100 --> 01:12:37,000
declined it and that got J Hamm
where he is obviously it goes
1164
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:41,600
back when you know JC was a ga
that's one hand was playing here
1165
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:42,400
man.
Yep.
1166
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:47,900
So those guys go back, you know
close to 20 years and you know
1167
01:12:47,900 --> 01:12:55,000
again You know, it's just cool
to see that and then the other
1168
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:58,700
piece, which I think I'm sure
you would have loved to been
1169
01:12:58,700 --> 01:13:01,700
sitting in this room.
Brian is, you know, really
1170
01:13:01,700 --> 01:13:07,900
didn't know, you know really,
you know really know Bill.
1171
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:10,100
Yeah.
And then comes in they
1172
01:13:10,100 --> 01:13:11,800
immediately get together and
what are they gonna do?
1173
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:18,200
They chop it up talking football
for four hours and you know, I
1174
01:13:18,208 --> 01:13:21,200
think there's a there's a good
relationship there because I
1175
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:23,800
think you know he kind of talked
about it.
1176
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:27,900
They don't necessarily have what
you would call mirror images of
1177
01:13:28,300 --> 01:13:31,700
philosophy on defensive line
play, but I think that's a good
1178
01:13:31,700 --> 01:13:35,600
thing because that kind of
pushes Each other to kind of,
1179
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:39,700
listen to the other, you know,
see what else is out there.
1180
01:13:39,700 --> 01:13:42,900
You know, you don't want to just
get in that mindset of my ways.
1181
01:13:42,900 --> 01:13:45,100
The right way, you're always
wanted to grow.
1182
01:13:45,100 --> 01:13:48,600
You want to learn having a guy
with somewhat different
1183
01:13:48,900 --> 01:13:51,100
philosophies at the same
position.
1184
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:53,800
I think it's going to be a good
thing because I think each of
1185
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:57,300
them will push each other and
and grow from from the
1186
01:13:57,300 --> 01:13:59,600
experience that the other brains
I mean, bills God.
1187
01:14:00,500 --> 01:14:06,200
You know, a lot of that NFL type
X's and O's things like that.
1188
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:09,600
And I think JC may have he's got
a lot of that as well, but I
1189
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:10,900
think he's got some of the soft
skills.
1190
01:14:10,900 --> 01:14:14,500
And some of the understanding on
the recruiting Trail and in the
1191
01:14:14,500 --> 01:14:18,100
how the college systems work
that I think Bill can learn a
1192
01:14:18,100 --> 01:14:20,100
lot from.
So I think there's going to be
1193
01:14:20,100 --> 01:14:23,800
that give and take from that
perspective not just the X's and
1194
01:14:23,808 --> 01:14:27,700
O's and scheme and philosophy of
defensive line play that you
1195
01:14:27,700 --> 01:14:30,200
know, is a little bit similar to
a little bit different but it
1196
01:14:30,208 --> 01:14:31,900
sounds like Like they have good
chemistry.
1197
01:14:32,700 --> 01:14:35,200
Oh yeah, I think that's you
know, that healthy dialogue is
1198
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:36,900
going to be a good thing for the
defense of wine.
1199
01:14:38,500 --> 01:14:42,300
Oh absolutely.
And again I think again it's
1200
01:14:42,300 --> 01:14:47,700
having that extra voice in there
and you know to where Daryl had
1201
01:14:47,700 --> 01:14:52,100
played in a lot of built here
like systems so he sort of
1202
01:14:52,100 --> 01:14:55,900
understood what Bill wanted to
do and it was very much Polly Y
1203
01:14:55,900 --> 01:15:01,000
Bar no King long so bad or so
fast was annual Bill wanted to
1204
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:05,500
do, he taught him and if this
cake They have, you know,
1205
01:15:05,500 --> 01:15:08,700
they're not perfect on
philosophy, but they probably
1206
01:15:08,700 --> 01:15:14,100
have enough of over line where,
you know, example this year,
1207
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:18,200
bills working with the ends.
Hey I need you to go work with
1208
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:20,000
George.
Let's work with, you know, the
1209
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:22,000
X's and O's piece.
They see God.
1210
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:25,800
Let me go to your point too.
I think JC with his voice is
1211
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:29,100
going to say sometimes.
Hey, let's, let's look at it
1212
01:15:29,100 --> 01:15:32,100
this way and I think for bills,
probably going to help him grow
1213
01:15:32,100 --> 01:15:36,600
a little bit too.
But again overall that that's a
1214
01:15:36,608 --> 01:15:38,600
good thing.
It's a really good.
1215
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:40,900
Let's talk about this.
Okay, so I'll be we're both
1216
01:15:40,900 --> 01:15:49,000
married to teachers yes.
Okay so let's say A defensive
1217
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:54,500
scheme is like a curriculum.
There are several different ways
1218
01:15:54,500 --> 01:15:58,100
to get to that end game.
There's different philosophies
1219
01:15:58,100 --> 01:16:02,000
or different things right there.
Teachers are constantly learning
1220
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:04,400
different ways to get to the
same end point.
1221
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:08,400
This is the same type of thing
in their endpoint, is more or
1222
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:13,100
less in the same ballpark.
They might have a little bit of
1223
01:16:13,100 --> 01:16:15,500
different way of getting there
and learning different ways to
1224
01:16:15,500 --> 01:16:17,000
get.
There is going to help them
1225
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:23,100
translate that because honestly
much like students not every
1226
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:27,200
Player is going to pick up and
learn in the same way or in the
1227
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:30,900
same fashion and respond to the
same type of criticism or same
1228
01:16:30,900 --> 01:16:33,500
type of critique.
So that's going to be a good
1229
01:16:33,500 --> 01:16:36,500
thing.
Long-term I did like and this
1230
01:16:36,500 --> 01:16:42,000
was kind of a part of levity of
the the interview the question
1231
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:44,600
about where was the first place?
He ate when he got to Blacksburg
1232
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:48,300
or any places that were still
still popular from his Heyday.
1233
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:55,600
He says a coin flip he cases
McAdoo's America dues one when
1234
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:59,200
it got the when he got the I
guess the probably a Hindenburg
1235
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:02,100
where you think, you think you
think he crushes the Hindenburg
1236
01:17:02,700 --> 01:17:05,600
think he could crush Hindenburg.
Maybe someday.
1237
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:09,000
I think I've heard tell that
McAdoo's is a hell of a place
1238
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:11,400
for for recruits.
Oh yes.
1239
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:14,500
It's, you know, be there with
recruits.
1240
01:17:14,500 --> 01:17:16,700
It's awesome.
You meet their courage, their
1241
01:17:16,700 --> 01:17:20,100
you have a sandwich.
You talk about football, you
1242
01:17:20,100 --> 01:17:21,700
know?
Well, you know, that's part of
1243
01:17:21,708 --> 01:17:25,200
it is, the menu is so big that
you literally get your
1244
01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:28,800
recruiting pitch done, but now
the request of screw them in
1245
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:32,300
you.
And then once the pitch is done,
1246
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:36,800
you point them to the best piece
of the menu for that particular
1247
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:39,700
player and then you essentially
get the commit on spot.
1248
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:42,400
Yeah.
I've heard defunct podcast like
1249
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:47,300
to ask for interviews there too.
Not this part.
1250
01:17:49,300 --> 01:17:52,600
Let's do talk about him.
He's obviously got the
1251
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:55,900
recruiting title role and he
kind of was talking about it.
1252
01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:59,400
It's more or less.
He's the guy that's going to be,
1253
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:01,500
we need to look at films on
recruits.
1254
01:18:01,500 --> 01:18:04,900
Have you made the call here?
It sounds like it's more of a,
1255
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:10,700
he's more of a logistical guy.
And again, JC biggest person in
1256
01:18:10,700 --> 01:18:14,600
that room, my assumption is, if
Jesse speaks about have you, you
1257
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:17,500
know, have you looked at tape of
Tom?
1258
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:20,200
I don't know.
Sean Asbury and I know he's like
1259
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:22,600
a top tent here.
Hey Jackie looked at as berries
1260
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:26,300
tape you talk to his trainer,
you talk to anybody on him this
1261
01:18:26,300 --> 01:18:28,900
week.
I mean it seems like it's almost
1262
01:18:28,900 --> 01:18:34,100
that's going to be a checklist
type thing for him like and you
1263
01:18:34,100 --> 01:18:38,300
know some code says yeah I can't
get in touch with anybody will
1264
01:18:38,300 --> 01:18:41,600
hold on.
DM the number over to him?
1265
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:44,800
Call this guy.
Yep, this is it, that type of
1266
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:49,900
thing, make it making sure that,
you know, all right, we got this
1267
01:18:49,900 --> 01:18:52,000
guy coming to campus.
Make sure you're watching his
1268
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:55,200
fucking tape this week, so
you're prepared to discuss this
1269
01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:58,300
that and the third victims.
Make sure that you're reviewing,
1270
01:18:58,700 --> 01:19:02,100
you know, family members this.
So that, you know, names you
1271
01:19:02,100 --> 01:19:04,300
understand the relationships,
you understand who plays a key
1272
01:19:04,300 --> 01:19:10,900
role in this player's life so
that you can relate to them as
1273
01:19:10,900 --> 01:19:13,100
best as you can.
Because I think that's another
1274
01:19:13,100 --> 01:19:19,300
part of it, that You know, the
coaches, obviously, they
1275
01:19:19,300 --> 01:19:20,500
recruit.
They're trying to get the best
1276
01:19:20,500 --> 01:19:22,800
players, but it's about building
relationships.
1277
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:26,100
So if you're not doing the
homework on that, that's going
1278
01:19:26,100 --> 01:19:29,700
to show up when it's time to
kind of close the deal.
1279
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:33,200
Absolutely.
And going back, he had that
1280
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:37,700
personal story.
JC essentially grew up kind of
1281
01:19:37,700 --> 01:19:39,700
out in the rural areas of
Maryland.
1282
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:43,400
Pretty highly recruited player
to a point where Powerhouse
1283
01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:47,200
DeMatha, you know Brian.
You know we heard They wanted to
1284
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:51,700
come, get him his senior year
but the coach that they brought
1285
01:19:51,700 --> 01:19:56,800
into his high school was kind of
a well-known coach winner and he
1286
01:19:56,800 --> 01:20:01,300
convinced him to stay at his
high school, not make the hour,
1287
01:20:01,300 --> 01:20:07,800
commute both ways every day to
go down to a Powerhouse and you
1288
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:11,700
know talk about staying home and
everything but that starts one
1289
01:20:11,700 --> 01:20:15,400
of these three things that I
think he's going to bring it ate
1290
01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:16,900
at selling point, right?
There.
1291
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:20,900
Whatever that coach said to him,
I have a feeling instilled and
1292
01:20:20,900 --> 01:20:23,800
then him about staying home,
doing it at home.
1293
01:20:24,300 --> 01:20:31,100
That's one story but brine the
next one that he revealed me and
1294
01:20:31,100 --> 01:20:33,700
you I think we talked about it,
20 minutes, he revealed.
1295
01:20:33,700 --> 01:20:37,700
His is degrees.
Yep.
1296
01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:42,100
You got the the liberal arts and
science degree which at the time
1297
01:20:42,100 --> 01:20:46,100
he said, was essentially three
minors that add up to a major
1298
01:20:47,100 --> 01:20:49,600
because he wanted.
And he talked about, he because
1299
01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:52,200
he wanted to be a coach.
So this is, this was his ideas
1300
01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:53,500
like very well.
So I want to be a coach.
1301
01:20:53,500 --> 01:20:56,800
So, three minors that can they
can build to a major for me.
1302
01:20:57,300 --> 01:20:59,800
Scioscia sociology, physical
education.
1303
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:03,600
In African-American studies.
And that tells me right there
1304
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:08,800
that this God understands, what
it's going to take to be a coach
1305
01:21:08,900 --> 01:21:11,800
and what it's going to take to
fill in any blind spots that he
1306
01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:17,400
may have and working with
people, that may have different
1307
01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:22,300
life stories or understanding
understanding how they tick, and
1308
01:21:22,300 --> 01:21:25,800
also just the physical education
part of it or just understanding
1309
01:21:26,700 --> 01:21:29,700
how to get guys in their Peak
Performance to go out there.
1310
01:21:29,900 --> 01:21:31,500
On the field and do what they
need to do.
1311
01:21:33,900 --> 01:21:36,400
Absolutely.
And when he when he mentioned
1312
01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:42,400
that about those degrees, it was
just like again, he is from and
1313
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:44,900
I'm not sure if it's world.
But it's not your it's not your
1314
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:49,700
Baltimore propers or, you know,
down into areas like that, he
1315
01:21:49,700 --> 01:21:54,400
had his background and he said,
if I'm going to be a coach, I've
1316
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:57,000
got to understand, I understand
my background.
1317
01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:59,200
I'm going to have people that I
run to their similar to me.
1318
01:21:59,300 --> 01:22:00,600
We're going to connect.
Boom, great.
1319
01:22:01,100 --> 01:22:03,500
I want to understand everyone.
I touch.
1320
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:07,700
Ouch.
And, you know, obviously he knew
1321
01:22:07,700 --> 01:22:13,000
that, you know, the African
American studies, you know, I've
1322
01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:16,700
got African-American teammates.
I want to understand what goes
1323
01:22:16,700 --> 01:22:18,600
on.
I want to know more about them.
1324
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:20,900
I want to be able to connect
with them man.
1325
01:22:20,900 --> 01:22:24,900
That just tells a lot about him
as a human being Brian.
1326
01:22:24,900 --> 01:22:28,000
You know what else tells you a
lot about the human being is
1327
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:30,300
when he discussed the 95 store?
Man?
1328
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:33,000
Yep.
For you.
1329
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:34,300
Younger people.
Go back.
1330
01:22:34,300 --> 01:22:38,500
Look nice.
E5 is a great season. 95 started
1331
01:22:38,500 --> 01:22:46,600
off shitty jib really really
shitty, you know, back-to-back
1332
01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:50,900
losses.
The second being who, you know,
1333
01:22:50,900 --> 01:22:54,400
Cincinnati at Lane stadium.
And you I think I've heard
1334
01:22:54,400 --> 01:22:57,400
stories it was like the pouring
down rain the opening loss was
1335
01:22:57,400 --> 01:23:03,600
to Boston College.
And you know, you kind of hear
1336
01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:07,200
JC talking about it said in the
locker room after the game.
1337
01:23:07,300 --> 01:23:11,400
Gang with just as miserable
feeling and then having to watch
1338
01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:17,000
the tape the next day.
And he didn't say it, but I
1339
01:23:17,008 --> 01:23:20,200
think he didn't say it in the
way.
1340
01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:22,300
Brian.
I think you assume this is what
1341
01:23:22,300 --> 01:23:27,700
he said it, right.
Yeah, I said he said we're not
1342
01:23:27,700 --> 01:23:30,300
losing the end.
I said we fucking losing again.
1343
01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:39,400
Because I mean again JC kind of
reminds me a lot of he kind of
1344
01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:42,400
reminds me a combination of my
offensive line coach and I
1345
01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:46,900
wasn't him and Sydney Keith
conlon and our good buddy
1346
01:23:47,700 --> 01:23:50,300
hambone.
Robbie come tonight if you put
1347
01:23:50,300 --> 01:23:53,400
those two guys together, that
that's who Jason kind of reminds
1348
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:57,400
me of and that's something I
could see them them saying in
1349
01:23:57,400 --> 01:23:59,700
that scenario, like we fucking
losing again.
1350
01:24:00,500 --> 01:24:02,600
Really.
And then not just saying it, not
1351
01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:06,300
just saying it, but putting that
shit into action doubling down
1352
01:24:06,300 --> 01:24:09,600
on studies doubling, down, on
practice doubling down on film.
1353
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:12,500
All of the things you need to do
to have success on the field.
1354
01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:15,500
Yeah.
And obviously, everybody knows
1355
01:24:15,500 --> 01:24:19,600
what happens the next week they
go out, beat Miami.
1356
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:24,700
As the white said last week back
98 when he finished it up. 95
1357
01:24:24,700 --> 01:24:29,700
was the first of four straight
99 made it five straight in.
1358
01:24:30,500 --> 01:24:32,500
Basically, they didn't lose
another game.
1359
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:36,700
It didn't lose another game to
come back at UVA.
1360
01:24:37,100 --> 01:24:42,400
The Sugar Bowl, win over Texas.
It tells you about his mentality
1361
01:24:42,500 --> 01:24:47,400
to and, you know, there's been
times.
1362
01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:51,500
Under this current coaching
regime.
1363
01:24:51,900 --> 01:24:57,500
You know, a lot of times we see
a lot of fight but sometimes You
1364
01:24:57,500 --> 01:25:00,300
just feel like sometimes the
players aren't.
1365
01:25:02,400 --> 01:25:04,700
I don't want to say it because
you see them play their asses
1366
01:25:04,700 --> 01:25:07,400
off, but you feel like sometimes
they just turn it off.
1367
01:25:08,700 --> 01:25:10,700
I don't think they see prices
going to let people in that
1368
01:25:10,700 --> 01:25:14,500
locker room turn and yeah I
don't I don't think it's lack of
1369
01:25:14,500 --> 01:25:15,900
effort.
I think sometimes it's lack of
1370
01:25:15,900 --> 01:25:21,700
focus, like I think they give
effort, I think the focus is
1371
01:25:21,700 --> 01:25:23,900
where we see a lack on some of
those things.
1372
01:25:23,900 --> 01:25:28,400
I think that having a guy that
understands setting a goal
1373
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:36,700
setting the things up to achieve
that goal and holding everyone
1374
01:25:36,700 --> 01:25:41,500
accountable at all.
X towards that, that go
1375
01:25:41,500 --> 01:25:45,900
responsibility, I think is going
to be important for this team
1376
01:25:45,900 --> 01:25:49,900
going forward because I mean,
this is a guy that You know, we
1377
01:25:49,900 --> 01:25:54,200
talked about Virginia Tech but I
mean this this is one of the
1378
01:25:54,200 --> 01:25:57,500
guys that built what Virginia
Tech is and what Virginia Tech
1379
01:25:57,500 --> 01:26:04,200
became and he understands he saw
both sides of it.
1380
01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:08,000
I mean, he saw the downs and he
saw the ups and he saw, you
1381
01:26:08,008 --> 01:26:14,200
know, what we were and what we
became Just In His short time in
1382
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:18,400
Blacksburg.
And I think that that matters
1383
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:21,500
and I think going back to the
point earlier, I think that's
1384
01:26:21,500 --> 01:26:27,400
what that question was trying to
be trying to ask is that, you
1385
01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:33,700
know, are there lessons from
your time as a player here that
1386
01:26:33,700 --> 01:26:37,000
you can bring to the table and
help this team?
1387
01:26:37,100 --> 01:26:39,300
Take the next step.
Yeah.
1388
01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:44,200
And it is he has them.
Braun.
1389
01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:47,100
I'm going to we're going to stop
the Virginia Tech talk there.
1390
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:54,000
Before we wrap the episode up, I
need your 90 second analysis of
1391
01:26:54,000 --> 01:27:02,900
the Carson Wentz trade, I think,
in terms of It being a
1392
01:27:02,900 --> 01:27:08,600
relatively safe, relatively cap
friendly, All Things Considered,
1393
01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:11,800
I think, in terms of being able
to move off of it, if it doesn't
1394
01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:14,500
work out, I think it was a good
trade.
1395
01:27:16,900 --> 01:27:20,500
I would have preferred Stafford.
I probably would have also
1396
01:27:20,500 --> 01:27:27,500
preferred Donald if we could
have got him for a similar.
1397
01:27:29,200 --> 01:27:32,500
Similar trade package and
obviously his the cost would
1398
01:27:32,500 --> 01:27:36,100
have been lower in terms of the
immediate contract.
1399
01:27:36,100 --> 01:27:38,600
So I think if we were to pull
that off, I think I would have
1400
01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:42,100
been fine with it.
I'm still waiting to see on
1401
01:27:42,100 --> 01:27:43,900
whence.
I think if he can stay on the
1402
01:27:43,900 --> 01:27:48,000
field and working with Frank
Reich again.
1403
01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:50,300
I think that's going to be a
good thing for him.
1404
01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:53,600
The problem I have is that I
need to see this guy play more
1405
01:27:53,600 --> 01:27:58,800
than 12 games in the season.
Proof.
1406
01:27:59,500 --> 01:28:02,300
But the Alamos truth is you said
Frank right if there's anyone
1407
01:28:02,300 --> 01:28:04,200
that can fix him.
It's Frank Wright.
1408
01:28:04,700 --> 01:28:11,700
If Frank Wright fixes him?
I hate y'all because if you like
1409
01:28:11,700 --> 01:28:16,100
I said, we did a ton and
contract.
1410
01:28:16,100 --> 01:28:18,800
He's bringing on board is that
if it doesn't work this year and
1411
01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:21,600
next year, we're pretty much off
the hook with no more dead money
1412
01:28:22,100 --> 01:28:29,700
and space handicapped space too.
Because of the luck retirement
1413
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:34,100
Hill Rivers will have one year.
He gets fixed.
1414
01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:36,400
I mean, y'all are essentially
have a 10-year order back.
1415
01:28:36,500 --> 01:28:39,400
Yeah.
And y'all have a front office
1416
01:28:39,400 --> 01:28:43,100
that knows how to draft.
So think we're going to take
1417
01:28:43,100 --> 01:28:45,200
Christian darussalam.
First round if everything works
1418
01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:49,400
out.
The way I'm hoping and aerosol,
1419
01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:52,600
dude, I had that's also mocks.
He's flying up in the top 10
1420
01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:54,500
now.
Yeah, he's anywhere between like
1421
01:28:54,500 --> 01:28:57,300
nine and Twenty Eight, depending
on.
1422
01:28:57,300 --> 01:29:01,000
So mocks depends on how that
thing breaks.
1423
01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:03,600
We've got it.
We could potentially move up
1424
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:06,600
though.
So we've actually got got some
1425
01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:07,900
action where we can move up.
Up.
1426
01:29:07,900 --> 01:29:11,100
So if he's, who we're targeting
or something, if we're
1427
01:29:11,100 --> 01:29:14,000
comfortable with, if we're
comfortable with the first four
1428
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:16,600
or five tackles, then I think
we're fine to sit where we're
1429
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:20,300
at.
Yeah, but if we've got a
1430
01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:24,300
certain, you know, one, two,
three in that top five that we,
1431
01:29:24,300 --> 01:29:27,800
absolutely, if we feel like we
can get him, we're going to try
1432
01:29:27,800 --> 01:29:30,100
to get him then.
I think I can see us moving up
1433
01:29:30,900 --> 01:29:33,500
and making that play, and if all
of them are gone, by the time we
1434
01:29:33,500 --> 01:29:37,300
get around, I could see us
trading back and, you know, make
1435
01:29:37,300 --> 01:29:38,900
getting an To pick in the second
round.
1436
01:29:38,900 --> 01:29:42,900
So absolutely do.
All right.
1437
01:29:42,900 --> 01:29:46,100
Well folks, that is going to
wrap up this episode of The
1438
01:29:46,100 --> 01:29:50,100
Boundary Corner podcast.
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1439
01:29:50,100 --> 01:29:52,900
Sigler.
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1440
01:29:52,900 --> 01:29:55,200
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1443
01:30:03,600 --> 01:30:09,300
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1444
01:30:09,500 --> 01:30:11,700
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01:30:11,800 --> 01:30:14,200
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1446
01:30:14,700 --> 01:30:18,400
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1447
01:30:18,400 --> 01:30:20,100
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1448
01:30:20,100 --> 01:30:23,300
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1449
01:30:23,300 --> 01:30:27,400
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1450
01:30:27,400 --> 01:30:29,700
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1451
01:30:29,900 --> 01:30:33,800
And as always let's go okey
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Welcome back to the boundary
Corner podcast.
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My name is Curtis Wilson.
I'm Brian Sigler.
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How are you doing tonight buddy?
Me and you are Co watching some
4
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big 12 Hoops here.
Who tournament teams battling
5
00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:06,200
down in the state of Texas.
We're both very tired.
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Guys are if our energy level
isn't normal.
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Brian has had a hell of a week.
There there's been doctor's
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appointments in pretty much
every member of my family this
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week, on top of not the greatest
sleep due to some of those
10
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things.
So if I'm a little low energy or
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lethargic compared to my normal
Persona, don't take it out on
12
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me.
I'm trying to try to grind
13
00:01:35,300 --> 00:01:38,500
through and we'll get a nice
episode out for you guys.
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Anyway, getting a good episode
out, regardless, just the energy
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levels, aren't there again
Brian.
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Like you said everybody in his
eye, Cows have been to the
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hospital or to the doctor this
week.
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Also over here.
We're changing schedules again
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with one of the kiddos back in
school in person, though, my
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00:01:56,100 --> 00:02:00,400
routines completely change and
obviously, you know, pregnant
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00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:04,100
wife and we're getting close.
Close to time.
22
00:02:04,100 --> 00:02:05,900
Things are happening.
Final Countdown.
23
00:02:06,500 --> 00:02:10,600
The Final Countdown, every
little thing, where it's like,
24
00:02:10,900 --> 00:02:16,100
okay, eat meat texting and
telling people Might not be able
25
00:02:16,100 --> 00:02:18,000
to work tomorrow and then I'm
working tomorrow.
26
00:02:19,300 --> 00:02:22,500
So on alert.
Nope not only I don't know
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exactly but you know guys it's
been a couple weeks since we
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dropped anything and that was
the white Vixen of you, we
29
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really appreciate all the
listens we got to that we had an
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00:02:32,700 --> 00:02:34,600
unbelievable time with the
white.
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You know if you don't follow him
and Victory Life on Twitter.
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Do so he's a heck of a follow
and we're definitely probably
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going to have Him back soon but
since that point I'm a lot of
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00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,800
things going on Hokie Nation.
We're going to hit a variety of
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topics tonight.
But what's going to lead off the
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show is something the guys over
at some of the Saturday
37
00:03:00,300 --> 00:03:04,100
primarily Evan Norse.
Did he had an interview with
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00:03:04,900 --> 00:03:10,200
former hokey quarterback Hendon
hooker and you know, overall the
39
00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:14,600
interview Brian, you know it
seems like, you know, he left on
40
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foot.
Cordial terms.
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He did not bus anybody he did,
raise some things here and there
42
00:03:23,700 --> 00:03:27,400
what was what was some of the
things that kind of caught you
43
00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,100
Brian.
Yeah, definitely wasn't like a
44
00:03:30,100 --> 00:03:34,200
clap back season type interview
so we didn't see any of the
45
00:03:34,900 --> 00:03:36,600
sparks flying or anything like
that.
46
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Whether you were expecting that
or not expecting that, you know
47
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you'll be disappointed there.
It's very much a Straightforward
48
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interview, some concerns in
there but nothing that you know
49
00:03:51,100 --> 00:03:57,200
was you know get your popcorn
ready, worthy of our checking
50
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out there.
It was it was a very good
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interview.
I think Kevin did a good job
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with it.
Particularly things that stood
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out for me and you know this is
one thing that we talked about
54
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before is some of the comments
that have been made about the
55
00:04:11,500 --> 00:04:15,400
offensive scheme.
Nothing was necessary.
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He blatantly lately - but there
were some concerns about, you
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00:04:23,100 --> 00:04:28,700
know, sometimes plays not there.
Sometimes you don't have the
58
00:04:28,700 --> 00:04:32,800
right call at the right time,
you know, things like that,
59
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where you can kind of read
between the lines a little bit.
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And say, yeah, I wasn't always
put in the best position and
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when even when I was sometimes
the play call wasn't right?
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So that's obviously Something
that we need to work for.
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We talked about this before and
I know it's low-hanging.
64
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Fruit to bash the offensive
coordinator in general at
65
00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,400
Virginia Tech.
I mean, it's a tale as old as
66
00:04:56,400 --> 00:05:00,600
time or at least as old as the
be Moreira 2001.
67
00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,800
Yeah, exactly.
So, don't mean, we've been doing
68
00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:09,200
this a while at the same time,
that doesn't make the concerns
69
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that are raised both by the
fans.
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And in this case by the former
quarterback in and Hooker
71
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invalid.
Yeah, you know he said it in the
72
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piece was he said the system is
great, which Ron me and you have
73
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said numerous times, like the
system is the, the style that we
74
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have is a really unbelievable
system.
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But to your point, Yes, when he
said, right?
76
00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:42,200
Place at the right time Brian.
I think did you text me?
77
00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:46,500
Or I texted you I sent that
quote in like what rhymes?
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Like we said that.
That's what we're saying
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validation.
Yeah.
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I mean I'll take a Victory lap
on this.
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I mean we've been talking about
this for a long time, it's not
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the scheme.
It's the number one sometimes
83
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week-to-week preparation.
Number two situational play
84
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calling And and it's not that
the offense has been bad.
85
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Especially in terms of just the
raw numbers is that there's so
86
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many points that are left on the
field week to week.
87
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And there's so many
opportunities to extend a drive
88
00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,700
that can put you in a better
position to win the game that,
89
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you know, there's just it just
isn't there.
90
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So, you know, we're not saying
we're not critical of the
91
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offense across the board.
I think there are pluses and
92
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minuses to take from it, but
when you see a very key thing
93
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that there's nothing being I'm
done to address that key thing,
94
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you know, that's when you start
having some, some questions come
95
00:06:41,700 --> 00:06:44,400
out and some like, hey, why
aren't we doing anything to
96
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address this obvious
shortcoming.
97
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Exactly.
So, yeah, so definitely those
98
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concern that kind of thought my
the other one that called pain,
99
00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,300
both eyes, Brian was talking
about, who had the closest
100
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relationship with and you
expected to, you know, Here, one
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of the position coaches or
something like that.
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And he said, nice like, you
know, really the gaas and he
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really, he mentioned Caleb
jealous.
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Amino as something that body,
talk to regular day-to-day in
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person.
And at first, when you read
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that, if you take just that line
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coaches are out of touch.
He kind of followed it up and he
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said, you know, that, that's
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He's like, you know, you come
in, you can talk to coaches
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sometimes.
But in college football, they
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have so much on their plates
during the day.
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Yeah, be recruiting this 24/7
now.
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I mean, I'm playing it.
Like, there's if it's not be
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scheduled time to be with the
coaches.
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Yeah, I get that being close
with the ga like if that's whose
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ear you're going to Ping, First
with any sort of concern and
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he's sort of like, low-level
question that you have about
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whether it's skiing whether it's
game, plan, you know, whatever
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it may be.
That's where you're going to
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touch first.
And if they can't get you the
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answers, then you kind of move
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But yeah, I mean it made more
sense as he went in there and
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the gaas are obviously going to
be more accessible day-to-day
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and minute-to-minute than than
the even position coaches.
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Especially.
You're probably in the, in the
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offseason there.
So yeah, I definitely understand
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the answer, even though like the
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whoa, that's that's interesting.
But, you know, the explanation
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makes sense, the explanation
makes tons of sense and you know
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the other pieces it goes back to
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How much support staff do you
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How many gaas do you have?
How many analysts do you have?
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Because the more guys you have
like that obviously.
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You know, four players come in
at once and there's one GA and
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they're all going to talk to him
and talk ball and talk shop and
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things that are going on in
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Well, he has for people to think
about in four different
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potential different coaches to
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What's going on with those guys
again the building of the
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operation staff is going to help
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enough staff there, More people
to listen, to The Players, to
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communicate it back to the
coaches, when the coaches are
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in, you know, deep film study or
deep recruiting type stuff are
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on the road for recruiting
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So, again, always talking about
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There's been those reports that
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which is what we need.
So it makes sense completely
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again.
It's like one of those things
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you're in a big company, not
many times, can you walk into
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the vp's office and sit down
have a conversation?
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Can you usually talk into, you
know, the operations manager or
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Financial Manager before you get
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But that last one, Brian, me and
we need to just talk on it.
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Did that make your eyebrows
raised a few minutes ago?
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It did man talking about what
happened with the bowl and
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Senior from the from the sounds
that they've hidden stalking
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their.
It's it's very it seems very
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much like a situation where the
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Yeah.
Some power that that is behind
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the scenes or whether it's
coaching staff, whether it's
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athletic department, whether
it's, you know, somewhere else
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said, you know, we're probably
not going to be in this bowl.
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That's interesting.
I know we've, I think heard
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Whispers as you know, will
players voted not to do it or
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coaches said they weren't going
to do it.
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Like we've heard the gamut of
potential reasons why a bowl
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game wasn't played.
You know we I think They've been
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kind of of the mind that we
don't feel like the team earned
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it.
So we were kind of fine with not
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playing it but it would have
been nice to keep the streak
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going even if it didn't mean as
much, but it's interesting
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getting that perspective.
Just because we hadn't heard any
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player, talk about it directly
before.
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So it was it was interesting to
see that that's the case and you
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know I'm not I don't see any
other hard data out there too.
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To contradict what hidden and
saying here.
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So nah, not at all.
There's nothing out there saying
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and whether it came from coaches
coaching staff or leaders of the
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team.
Well, it was going to be what
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the Military Bowl it was going
to be, you know, it was not
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going to be a bowl of prestige.
It was probably going to be a
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bowl where the guys were going
to have to stay on campus for
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Christmas and after the hell
that they've been through with
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this with this, with covid shit.
I'm fine with what they did man.
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So, yeah, you know, I mean, he
talked about he's like, you
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know, I think most, The players
were fine with it because they
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wanted to get the extra tape.
Like, if they play the game,
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they got an extra game to get
tape on it at least against the
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quality opponent.
Even if it's not necessarily A
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high-level, ranked opponent that
you would have liked to seen in
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a bowl game, but like I said, I
would have kind of been good
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with either way, it's nice to
kind of In a way in a season
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like we had just to go ahead and
kind of rip the Band-Aid off on
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this whole Bowl streak thing and
kind of move forward with that.
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Not the expectations for this
past season were We did not
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close to meeting them.
They were high, we didn't come
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close to meeting them.
So if we're, if we're going to
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rip the Band-Aid off, we might
as well do it in a season like
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this or we've already live the
disappointment.
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Abso-freakin'-lutely.
All right.
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Something else that came out in.
This was back on the 16th.
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So, really just a couple days
after we last recorded.
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The coaching salaries.
Now obviously the reduce
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compensation this year because
of covid.
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They all agreed to take hits.
But Brian, let me let's do this.
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I think this will be a little
fun activity.
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I'm going to give you a coach
give you their almost salary,
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not the adjusted salary.
Too much, too little just right,
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you ready?
Yep.
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Let's roll Jafar Williams, 280
thousand dollars a year.
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Based on recent history,
probably too much much, okay,
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Vance, Vice 300,000, that's just
right, just right, just right
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Jack, Tyler brand-new 250k.
That's just right.
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I like that disagree with you,
on that one.
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I think Jack needs 25,000 more
because we know he can call the
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game if needed.
We'll discuss that later, folks.
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I'll build Karen Lee 400,000.
It's probably a little higher
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than I'd like but I get, why
we're paying him that?
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Well, I think I see the
defensive line in the
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improvements.
We had in that one year.
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I think he's just right.
And if the defensive line
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continues to improve, I think he
deserves a bump.
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Right here we go.
Brian Smith 275.
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I like it.
I like that.
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He got a bump from where he was.
He definitely earned it last
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year between getting Dorian
strong where he was dealing with
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not having his two best corners
the whole year and doing a good
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job on the recruiting Trail.
So I think hearing pump probably
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could be a little bit higher if
you really, you know, if we're
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being honest, but I get that you
can't do, you can't go, but so
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much on on one year's worth of
data.
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So I'm gonna 75.
This is gonna be an interesting
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one.
The next one I'm going to 75
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maybe giving 20K more P95 but
it's not, he's it's not
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atrocious next year.
You know, the Seabees continue
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to play like they played,
especially once he has Pull all
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season, you better get ready to
write an extra 50 to 60 thousand
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and eight, guys check.
All right, you ready?
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Yep.
James shall best four hundred,
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seventy five thousand dollars.
It's high.
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It's it if you told me he was
like 425, I'd probably say maybe
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just right.
You know, we're talking about,
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he's pretty much up there with.
I know we're going to get to the
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offensive coordinator here in a
little bit.
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He's right there at the
offensive coordinator as you
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know, doing position special
teams in a position there.
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So that seems a little high to
me.
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Seems I put him at 425 and I'd
be happy with for 25.
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It seems extremely high to me
now.
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They are your life. 375 then.
Oh yeah.
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Yes 75 To a hundred thousand
dollars.
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Less.
The only way I would say I would
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approve.
This is if he's essentially the
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associate head coach, have one
in title.
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Right now, Shabbos is probably
the most experienced coach on
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the staff probably and I'm
assuming maybe that's why he's
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getting it, he's not entitled.
But technically since he runs
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special teams, that maybe he's
really doing some of the stuff
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with Justin just not entitle is
just in his, it's just in his
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job description.
So but put the title if he's
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doing that so I can justify 475
if he's not doing that giving
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375 and spread the 100,000
elsewhere.
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Alrighty here.
All right.
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Adam lectin Berg. 275,000.
I mean with the new role he's
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taking on, I think that's just
right, I can see somewhere
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between 250 and 275.
So Let it ride it 275, I'm good
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with you know, where he's at
right now now.
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And you kind of say, if he has
someone have, let's say he has
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another fifteen hundred yard
rusher next year.
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Do we need to pay that man?
Some more money.
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I mean, he'll If he if he gets
1,000 yard rusher with the
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probably more than likely a
committee backfield then I mean
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you definitely got to give him
at least a little bump.
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Up to maybe three, okay.
That because that I think that's
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not only the evaluation that he
had to bring in a guy like
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Herbert and then to have a
season like he had within to
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back that up with Back feel that
doesn't have a true lead back as
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of this moment, you know, if a
guy like Holston goes out and
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gets a thousand yards and you
get a, you know, about 750
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all-purpose from a guy like
Blackshear and, you know, a few
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hundred from from the other guys
collectively.
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I mean, that's a pretty solid
fucking coaching job there with
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talent.
That is good.
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But not necessarily a deleted,
any level.
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Very true JC price walking in
brand new 275 and he issues with
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that.
Absolutely not good across the
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board.
I think with having the role
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that he's going to have in
really spearheading the
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recruiting in the state,
probably some of the alumni
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relations on top of the job.
He's gonna be doing working with
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Bill to your link.
I think that's that's definitely
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justifiable.
I'd have been happy with 250 but
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275 I can't argue with that
either.
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I'm due at 275 to, but again,
like a few other guys on this
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list.
You see some let's just say we
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see three to four top 20 players
in Virginia break the Hokies
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way.
He might be asking for some more
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money next year.
Yeah.
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I think on his front it's going
to be the what changes do we see
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on the recruiting side?
Just because with him being co
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position coach, I don't think
even a good output from the
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defensive line when necessarily
warrant a bump.
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But if you see, you know, the
continued output that we saw
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last year, the offensive line on
top of some recruiting.
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Bumps, that we weren't expecting
that.
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I think you can definitely say
okay well this is JC working his
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magic, you know.
Maybe maybe you know you know
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you're not talking a big boy.
Yeah I don't think you put it
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much above 3 but You know, we'll
see where I'd be at.
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All right, so the next one,
before we get into the two
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coordinators.
Let's discuss Ben Hill.
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Barks.
The banking conditioning head,
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man, So he's a 280, okay.
What if I told you that?
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The top guy in the country is
making double what he makes.
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That's the Bama strength and
conditioning coach, and I'm not
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bad.
I'm going to say, I guess that's
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really two fronts.
I think he is relative to that.
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I think he's learning what he's
making that also.
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Begs the question are we under
paying for that role?
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So, essentially, our we are, we
attract not attracting a high
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level selection in that role
because of where our salary is
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for it.
That's I'm not knocking, he'll
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guard here, but by any stretch I
think that he'll guard does a
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pretty decent job.
I think there are shortcomings
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in some of the things that we do
because there are certain
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position groups that
consistently or not.
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I don't think putting on the
good way.
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Wait, that we'd like to see or
at least the consistent good
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way.
That we'd like to see, I think
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there is very much a not
Beachbody mentality, but I think
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a lot of times we sacrifice,
Core strength for, I guess,
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functional weight, which I think
is good, but at some point you
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got to be bigger faster stronger
than the next guy.
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And Brian, I was incorrect on
the top page, strength and
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conditioning coach is Mickey,
Mariota at Ohio State, who is
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making eight hundred thousand
dollars a year.
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Okay.
So yeah, we're pretty much
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getting what we're paying for
them.
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Yep.
Taking a look here.
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Ben Hill.
Guard is Is.
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Yeah.
Where's the ranking in terms of
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actual position?
Because I know there's going to
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be a big, a big depth of
difference between kind of those
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top-tier Blue Bloods versus your
average power.
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Five straight, you won't see him
believe it or not, we're about
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40th teams, like Virginia, NC
State Lewisville, all paying
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more, So we're honestly right
where we are in terms of
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assisting compensation, we're
right, we're right on track with
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that, with that position as
well.
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So that yeah, yeah.
So we're paying, you know, we've
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got top top 25 expectations with
with top 40 investment, ding
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ding.
All right, let's get the last to
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roll in here.
Justin Hamilton six hundred
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thousand dollars a year.
I mean, I'm fine with it.
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Yeah, I think what happens is
season is going to determine
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whether a lot more about what I
think about that.
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I don't think that we got a
really good barometer of how
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good of a higher, you know, just
mammals.
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It's going to be long term and I
think we know that we know the
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good things and we know that at
least in the short term Season 1
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wasn't the best.
But season 1 also wasn't.
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There wasn't a lot of
Installation time for that
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defense.
And there was a lot of time to
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practice that installation.
So I'm trying not to hold that
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against this season's output on
top of all the other issues that
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the defense in particular dealt
with, with covid more so than
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the offense.
So let's look that's a
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wait-and-see for me.
Like I said, I'm fine with it
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now but it's definitely a wait
and see.
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Once I see what this offseason
looks like once next season
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looks like how the defense
adjust what type of, you know,
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when we talked about the, the
presser that he had, some of the
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okay we'll little bit of
addition by subtraction, little
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bit of streamlining the
concepts, keeping some of the
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concepts that were working with
the with with buds defense into
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the system and just in general
making the system that he is
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implementing.
More consistent across the board
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in terms of the type of
communication that's coming from
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the coaches.
So we'll see if that pays
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dividends on top of actually
having a spring practice, on top
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of having a normal fault, fall
Camp.
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So time until they're
absolutely.
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And last but not least, The
Whipping Boy of the podcast,
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right cornelison for ninety
thousand dollars.
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Honestly in terms of what boats
offensive coordinators get paid.
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I mean he's earning his money
we're just not paying enough for
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that position in my opinion.
Uh-huh.
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And we're getting what we're
paying for Let's hope, you know,
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that discussion of there's more
money coming into the program
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for spending those types of
money in that and not only.
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It helps the guys who were, you
know, really performing here
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where we can get them to
adequate level, so they don't
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leave, but those who are not
performing, let's hope that's
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able to get them out the door
and get an upgrade with
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significantly more money to be
paid.
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Yeah.
And you know that philosophy if
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we're if we were hiring some new
guys just you know, starting
398
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from scratch, we already have 20
in place but starting from
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scratch, everything else I'd
have like 750,000 being the
400
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minimum starting price for my
coordinators.
401
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,100
Minimum and obviously.
Now we kind of think we'll
402
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strength and conditioning for
probably be closer to 400,000 if
403
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we just, yeah, if we bump that
up to 400 and we bumped both of
404
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the coordinators up to 750 and
then, yeah, there would be
405
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trickle-down.
I mean, you're not going to,
406
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you're not going to pay, what is
it close to?
407
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:28,700
700,000 for defensive line coach
has in that situation.
408
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Knowledge, might have one guy
that you pay 350 or 400
409
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thousand.
It's true.
410
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But, you know, you kind of take
a look at it.
411
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It's what it's a little over.
It's like a half million dollars
412
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investment and upgrading those
positions, it's not like a
413
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million dollars, you're not if
you're not asking for a million
414
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dollars to those positions
levels.
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Right now, you're asking for
about a half million and if
416
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you're looking at that and
you're saying, we're going to
417
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give a put a million Into the
coaching pool.
418
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Well, that feeds a half million
dollars down again, the good
419
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coaches, you pay them and you
get probably what Thirty to
420
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fifty thousand dollar upgrades
in the Pacific.
421
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,300
Maybe the coaches like hey we
gotta let him go but now we can
422
00:27:09,300 --> 00:27:12,200
bring in a three hundred
thousand dollar guy and so on
423
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and so forth.
All right, Brian?
424
00:27:14,500 --> 00:27:20,700
So last few weeks we have got a
couple kreutz couple Unrated, at
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the time, they committed since
they have gotten Stars.
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Let's start in Virginia.
Harrison Saint-Germain out of
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00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:32,000
Westfield, High School opened
Chantilly rated as a three star
428
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tight end, you looked at the
tape on him just a little while
429
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ago.
Brine my getting Dalton or am I
430
00:27:40,708 --> 00:27:44,200
getting a gap?
You're good to look.
431
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,900
Somewhat somebody that's a
little bit closer to James
432
00:27:46,900 --> 00:27:51,400
Mitchell in terms of skill set.
Um, not quite as obviously at
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00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:56,100
the top end of any category
necessarily like that, but I
434
00:27:56,108 --> 00:27:57,900
will say he's blocking at least
out.
435
00:27:57,900 --> 00:28:00,400
The gate is probably a little
bit closer to what you would get
436
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:04,400
with dolls and but he's
definitely more of a Joker Style
437
00:28:05,100 --> 00:28:08,700
tight end that has the ability
to block in line as well.
438
00:28:10,700 --> 00:28:14,100
Pretty good with his hands runs,
pretty clean routes and like I
439
00:28:14,108 --> 00:28:19,000
said, blocks pretty well in line
and in space, Not a bad player.
440
00:28:20,300 --> 00:28:25,200
I think, you know, it's kind of
one of those things where we
441
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,400
keep finding these.
I'm not going to say diamond in
442
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:31,100
the rough but guys that are
under recruited and we're going
443
00:28:31,100 --> 00:28:35,800
to see a lot of this this year
just because there hasn't been
444
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,600
any any Junior table any of
these guys.
445
00:28:40,300 --> 00:28:45,100
So there's going to be a lot of
evaluations that look funky at
446
00:28:45,100 --> 00:28:49,300
first, but the more we get From
whether they have a fall season
447
00:28:49,300 --> 00:28:52,000
like some of these guys from
Virginia and some other states,
448
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,900
or we start actually getting
camps this summer, these guys
449
00:28:56,900 --> 00:28:59,000
are going to do.
We're going to see weird jumps
450
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and ratings.
We're going to see guys that are
451
00:29:01,100 --> 00:29:03,400
completely unrelated.
All of a sudden jump to, like a
452
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,000
high three-star, like right out
the gate.
453
00:29:06,300 --> 00:29:08,400
So we're going to see a lot of
funky stuff guys.
454
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,500
So, I mean don't don't
necessarily freaked out because
455
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a commit doesn't have, you know,
three or four star next to their
456
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,200
name.
When we're starting to either
457
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:23,500
see flirtations or when we see
their verbal commitment, come
458
00:29:23,500 --> 00:29:25,800
through.
Because, right now, a lot of
459
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,600
these kids, just they have so
little evaluation that.
460
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If the guys that we if our
evaluations are correct, it's
461
00:29:34,300 --> 00:29:38,000
going to be a really good thing
for us, so that's going to be
462
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,700
the question though, is, are we
getting the good evaluations
463
00:29:40,700 --> 00:29:41,600
here?
Guys?
464
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,400
Like Adam Lichtenberg have done
a good job of evaluating talent
465
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,900
and getting guys that fit well
in the system, whether ER, it's
466
00:29:48,300 --> 00:29:51,400
guys with a four star next to
their name or guys with a three
467
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:56,300
star or even a fringe Fringe to
Star coming in and guys in the
468
00:29:56,300 --> 00:29:58,700
transfer portal.
So there's going to be a lot of
469
00:29:58,700 --> 00:30:04,400
opportunities to make some moves
here on guys that have been
470
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:08,600
under evaluated and under
recruited through this point in
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00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:12,500
the cycle.
And we've got like,
472
00:30:12,500 --> 00:30:16,200
Saint-Germain, obviously,
Westfield, not only Westfield,
473
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,900
State of Virginia, in general
are playing right now.
474
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:24,400
So, you know, stuff you've seen
on tape, if they one of those
475
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,900
guys, he's like an 80 me get
back there at him up.
476
00:30:27,900 --> 00:30:32,800
Sorry, all for doing it for us.
Everything everything.
477
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:42,100
You know, he's rated as an 84
composite and then in 83 by
478
00:30:42,100 --> 00:30:46,200
24/7.
But again, he's about to get
479
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:50,500
Junior tape as a really good
Junior season and probably five
480
00:30:50,500 --> 00:30:54,800
six games, but it'd be a
two-point bump to the mid 80s.
481
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,700
And then if he has a, if their
camps and he has a good camp,
482
00:30:59,100 --> 00:31:02,300
You know, you seen things on,
take that already say he's
483
00:31:02,300 --> 00:31:04,200
already blocking it which is
great for a Titan him.
484
00:31:05,300 --> 00:31:07,200
He has a potential to be a joker
phone.
485
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,500
You tell me a joker but he
blocks good.
486
00:31:10,500 --> 00:31:16,000
You know, he be getting closer
to that 88-89 you know.
487
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,100
But in those glasses going to
have the opportunity and you
488
00:31:19,100 --> 00:31:23,000
know obviously for him he'll
have this then it'll have next
489
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,100
fall as well to get
re-evaluated.
490
00:31:25,300 --> 00:31:28,900
Yeah but let's come to one more
brine brother already on the
491
00:31:28,900 --> 00:31:34,100
team and Brian Raylan more.
There's a gene that runs in
492
00:31:34,100 --> 00:31:35,100
their family, huh?
Huh.
493
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:42,000
Yes, they got the nasty Jean.
This guy really likes to get
494
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,800
after it in the trenches finish
blocks.
495
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,700
Take guys to the dirt, get the
pancakes.
496
00:31:48,700 --> 00:31:54,800
So I like that element of his
game, kind of, I'd say, raw,
497
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,300
especially in past Pro, so
hopefully that we can clean that
498
00:31:58,300 --> 00:32:03,200
up moving from tackle, which is
what he's been primarily playing
499
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,800
in high school down into guard
more than likely with us.
500
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:10,100
Us is going to help that.
So you know, we'll look to see
501
00:32:10,100 --> 00:32:13,200
how that goes.
He also played defensive end in
502
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:17,500
a three-man front system in his
high school so he's got DN
503
00:32:17,500 --> 00:32:20,600
capability.
Probably three technique
504
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:25,100
d-tackle for us, if in our
system, but more than likely,
505
00:32:25,100 --> 00:32:27,900
he's going to be playing on the
offensive side of the ball at
506
00:32:27,900 --> 00:32:31,100
the guard position solid.
Pick up.
507
00:32:31,100 --> 00:32:37,500
I mean nothing to necessarily
Get excited about but I mean
508
00:32:37,500 --> 00:32:41,100
very solid pick up and I like I
said I think from a run game
509
00:32:41,100 --> 00:32:43,900
perspective and just to having
that nasty Gene you like having
510
00:32:43,900 --> 00:32:48,200
guys like that on your roster.
Absolutely, and he's three star
511
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:53,400
rated 84 and I'm not sure if
Pennsylvania, obviously, it's
512
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,800
one of those things.
Not sure if they're playing a.
513
00:32:59,300 --> 00:33:03,600
Spring season or not.
You know because so many states
514
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,600
it's up and down and it's really
made say this I'm going to keep
515
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:11,200
more of an eye on Virginia than
I am anybody and you know,
516
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:15,400
because if they played great the
tapes out there, he'll have a
517
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:21,300
senior season again we need your
brother's continues at Virginia
518
00:33:21,300 --> 00:33:24,600
Tech.
You know, his biggest offer
519
00:33:24,900 --> 00:33:29,400
essentially at this point in
time long, Virginia Tech's Not a
520
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,200
great offer list.
Well, I'm not going to say, no,
521
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:36,900
I don't like that.
Lot of some Matt schools, you
522
00:33:36,900 --> 00:33:41,800
know, some AAC schools and stuff
like that but again, it's
523
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,100
awkward.
With just the way everything's
524
00:33:45,100 --> 00:33:47,500
going.
The one thing about st.
525
00:33:47,500 --> 00:33:50,000
Germain.
Run that will catch your eye.
526
00:33:50,500 --> 00:33:53,600
Not a huge offer list.
The most catching one.
527
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,600
Wake Forest.
Yep.
528
00:33:56,300 --> 00:33:59,300
We know that at that is diamond
in the rough.
529
00:33:59,300 --> 00:34:03,300
You?
Yes, I Brian.
530
00:34:03,300 --> 00:34:06,800
Let's move on man.
You know over the last few
531
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,800
weeks.
Our coaches have been talking to
532
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:16,500
the Press.
Now, this shit you say, But
533
00:34:16,500 --> 00:34:20,000
there's no point in that there
was some disappointment in
534
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,400
there.
No one has known about them
535
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,199
talking until we're sitting
here.
536
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,500
I'm working in his home office,
me working in my home office,
537
00:34:29,900 --> 00:34:34,000
stop check the Twitter sphere,
Andy bitter might nozzoli or you
538
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,800
know, one of the other beat
writers puts on there.
539
00:34:36,100 --> 00:34:41,400
And this coach said this, we're,
we're having they haven't
540
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,800
processors today.
We're gonna discuss this in a
541
00:34:44,808 --> 00:34:51,600
few months. us with a individual
that is much more into this
542
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:56,100
stuff than we are and our depth
of it discussing this in a way
543
00:34:56,100 --> 00:35:00,100
that Comes from an area of
expertise than we are.
544
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:05,600
We're novices but we kind of
see, we see what's not
545
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:06,800
happening.
She can explain.
546
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,300
What should be happening?
A lot better than weekend.
547
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:14,800
What our assessment is though is
that when we look at something
548
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,400
like this so you've got you
know, set handful of coaches
549
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:22,300
that are talking to the media.
You've got a couple players
550
00:35:22,300 --> 00:35:23,800
here.
They're talking to the media,
551
00:35:24,100 --> 00:35:27,400
but I don't know about.
I mean, I follow Virginia Tech
552
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,500
at WebEx as close as probably
I'd say.
553
00:35:30,500 --> 00:35:35,200
I'm at least in the, you know
what a percentile I'm in.
554
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,800
The 90th percentile of people
that that follow Virginia Tech
555
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,000
football in particular, in
Virginia Tech Athletics in
556
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:45,800
general.
I should know before I see
557
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:50,600
tweets from.
You know, might be Daniel and
558
00:35:50,700 --> 00:35:56,300
Andy bitter and Mike Barber.
At least I should know that this
559
00:35:56,300 --> 00:35:57,900
interview is going to be taking
place.
560
00:35:57,900 --> 00:36:00,900
I should know, because the
official Virginia Tech Twitter
561
00:36:00,900 --> 00:36:04,200
account should let me know.
Hey, these guys are speaking to
562
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:08,400
Media today that way, even if
you're not live streaming, it
563
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,600
even if you're not making it
immediately available to fans,
564
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,200
should they can say okay, well
this is happening.
565
00:36:16,700 --> 00:36:20,100
I'm going to follow might be
Daniels Twitter today, or I'm
566
00:36:20,100 --> 00:36:22,700
gonna follow ND bitters Twitter
today to see what's happening at
567
00:36:22,700 --> 00:36:25,600
this press conference.
Not just Oh, I happen to find on
568
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:29,000
the timeline and then like two
days later, you end up sharing
569
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,500
the video where it's on demand
on Okie sports.
570
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:37,300
Like, these are layups to Bill
Hite for your program.
571
00:36:37,300 --> 00:36:41,400
These are layups free-throws.
Whatever fucking analogy you
572
00:36:41,408 --> 00:36:45,100
want to have 44 easy.
This is the easy stuff.
573
00:36:45,500 --> 00:36:49,800
If you want us to be engaged in
hokey football and be excited
574
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:54,000
about the upcoming season, hype
up the opportunities that you
575
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,600
are presenting Going to get
closer to these new coaches in
576
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,500
some cases or coaches that we,
that have been around.
577
00:37:00,500 --> 00:37:03,400
But we haven't really heard from
very much or players that we
578
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,500
haven't heard from very much.
I mean, Luke's a new to spoke
579
00:37:06,500 --> 00:37:08,400
with the media.
I don't think he's spoken with
580
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:12,400
the media is entire time and
Virginia Tech and no, I didn't
581
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,400
know about it until it was on
hokey sports.
582
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:21,200
Like it was a day later, like,
what's the You know, I'm not
583
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,600
saying that everything has to be
immediately accessible.
584
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:29,600
I get that there is a give and
take with that because my
585
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:34,500
perspective is that it's better
to be be live because if someone
586
00:37:34,500 --> 00:37:37,900
does take it out of context, you
can present the entire video in
587
00:37:37,900 --> 00:37:41,600
context in order to justify it.
I get that mistakes happen with
588
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,400
live video.
You want to have as much control
589
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:48,400
of the content as possible.
So I get that aspect of it and
590
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,100
that's why I'm okay with the
tape too.
591
00:37:50,300 --> 00:37:53,100
They even if I personally
disagree with what I'm not.
592
00:37:53,100 --> 00:37:55,400
Okay, with is not hyping it up
at all.
593
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:57,900
That's what I'm not.
Okay.
594
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:03,500
All I'm going to say is this
when we get that interview that
595
00:38:03,500 --> 00:38:05,600
that is going to be a fire
interview, that's all I'm going
596
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,600
to say.
And let's move on.
597
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,600
Let's move on.
We're going to store Brian Smith
598
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,000
first run.
Think the most interesting thing
599
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,800
that you that came to Bryant rot
from one of the most interesting
600
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,100
things that came from Ron Smith
right off.
601
00:38:18,100 --> 00:38:22,200
The bat was basically him sort
of laying out that DJ Harvey
602
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:28,700
lies, you Howard night Johnson.
Are going to basically be
603
00:38:28,700 --> 00:38:30,900
starting at corner.
He also mentioned a dears
604
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,700
Thompson, has stayed with the
corners, and Mike Hawkins is
605
00:38:33,700 --> 00:38:38,000
officially a safety, any shot
their Brawn, and he, you know,
606
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,500
isn't what in this Norm
defensive?
607
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,300
Yeah, that's going to be the
norm mean.
608
00:38:42,500 --> 00:38:44,000
This is kind of like a stress
test.
609
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:48,200
Let's think about it, that way.
Any guy that you think has the
610
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,100
ability to play corner, you want
to put them in that group,
611
00:38:51,100 --> 00:38:55,200
first, as kind of a stress, test
to see, can they handle it?
612
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:59,800
There can can that work?
Unless there's an absolute need
613
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,400
at a given position in the
secondary.
614
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,800
So, with that being said, it
doesn't surprise me that that
615
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,500
some of these guys are starting
out at cornerback even if that's
616
00:39:09,500 --> 00:39:11,000
not going to be their final
position.
617
00:39:11,900 --> 00:39:16,800
You know talking about nadir
made a note that you spit that I
618
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,900
know that you know when he was
called upon especially in the
619
00:39:18,900 --> 00:39:24,900
Duke game you played a pretty
good game that we had some other
620
00:39:24,900 --> 00:39:29,200
spot duties at cornerback On top
of playing special teams pretty
621
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,900
heavily last year.
So I think he's going to be a
622
00:39:31,908 --> 00:39:34,900
guy that's going to be in that
in that rotation in that
623
00:39:34,900 --> 00:39:39,800
discussion for kind of a too
deep or rotational type duties
624
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:45,400
for us coming in 2021.
Love seeing, you know, it's not
625
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,700
a shocker that DJ Harvey's going
to be cornerback for us.
626
00:39:47,700 --> 00:39:49,600
That's what recruited him as
that's.
627
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:54,400
That's where he plays.
Yeah, I really like what DJ is
628
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,300
bringing to the table, in terms
of talent.
629
00:39:56,300 --> 00:39:59,900
So I'm looking forward to And
what he can do with, with Ryan
630
00:39:59,900 --> 00:40:04,800
Smith with the with the, the
coming fall camp and I like the
631
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,600
Nike Johnson's already working
with them in the spring, so
632
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,400
that's going to be good for him.
Oh, absolutely.
633
00:40:10,500 --> 00:40:13,800
But you know something that he
mentioned, you know, essentially
634
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,700
he was going into last year
expecting to have, you know, two
635
00:40:16,700 --> 00:40:21,700
of the top five corners in the
ACC, to essentially D top Corner
636
00:40:21,700 --> 00:40:25,300
in the country and then Jermaine
have been rated with like top 12
637
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,200
year before.
And Obviously, what happened
638
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,600
with Caleb opting out, and then
Jermaine getting banged and
639
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,400
essentially being banged and
unable to play to his potential,
640
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:37,400
the rest of the year turn, guys.
Like Dorian strong, the nadir
641
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:42,000
Thompson's Brian Murray's.
So what we could have been
642
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:46,600
looking at this year, as a super
green room is actually a I mean
643
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:50,100
a pretty experienced room sort
of top to bottom along with
644
00:40:50,100 --> 00:40:55,000
adding those kind of young guys
into the mix really like that.
645
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,800
Really like that because he was
making the point of like You
646
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,600
know, I don't have to do a trial
by fire with these guys.
647
00:41:02,500 --> 00:41:05,900
Yeah, I mean, you had a trial by
fire in the season that
648
00:41:05,900 --> 00:41:09,300
everything was a trial by fire.
So, exactly, it's kind of nice
649
00:41:09,300 --> 00:41:13,500
having having a little bit of
experience at that position that
650
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,700
you know, you thought you were
going to have last year that
651
00:41:15,700 --> 00:41:19,100
didn't come to fruition.
And like I said, he would even
652
00:41:19,100 --> 00:41:22,000
if a perfect scenario last year
would have occurred, you still
653
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,100
would have been dealing with
guys, like, Dorian strong,
654
00:41:25,100 --> 00:41:27,300
probably getting way more reps
than you would have been.
655
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:31,900
Comfortable with at the start of
the Season, despite how, well he
656
00:41:32,300 --> 00:41:37,800
jumped in there and held up.
So, I like, I like, what we're,
657
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:44,600
I like knowing how what happened
in 2020, I feel better going
658
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:51,700
into this season, knowing what
we have behind Jermaine Waller,
659
00:41:51,700 --> 00:41:54,700
versus how I felt last year, not
really knowing what we had
660
00:41:54,700 --> 00:41:59,500
behind, Caleb and Jermaine.
Nope, so feel better that that's
661
00:41:59,500 --> 00:42:03,400
just me.
But, you know, he did, he
662
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:04,800
mention quick with Jermaine
that.
663
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,500
Basically, you know, he couldn't
speak to the injuries itself and
664
00:42:08,500 --> 00:42:10,400
we get that.
That's a lot of stuff.
665
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:14,700
But, you know, he mentioned how,
you know, he's been crushing the
666
00:42:14,700 --> 00:42:17,400
all-season very self-motivated
and he's becoming a leader in
667
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,200
that room.
Again, we go back to last year
668
00:42:20,500 --> 00:42:24,700
Jermaine was there, sort of
taking over that role and maybe
669
00:42:24,700 --> 00:42:29,500
having a season of not being
able to play being in those guys
670
00:42:29,500 --> 00:42:31,900
ears.
Have now made him the alpha, Of
671
00:42:31,900 --> 00:42:34,400
that room.
Yeah, and I mean, let's think
672
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,800
about it this way.
Caleb didn't opt out until late.
673
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:41,700
So Jermaine, whether whether by
choice or not was kind of all of
674
00:42:41,707 --> 00:42:45,200
a sudden, the de facto Elder
Statesman in that room, and now
675
00:42:45,500 --> 00:42:48,900
he gets an offseason to grow
into that role versus it being
676
00:42:48,900 --> 00:42:53,100
thrust upon Him due to the
situation with covid and Caleb
677
00:42:53,100 --> 00:42:55,600
opting out.
So I think that's going to be
678
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,000
good for him.
It sounds like he's taking over
679
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,000
that leadership role.
And it's going to be good to get
680
00:43:01,008 --> 00:43:03,700
him back on the field in the
leadership role versus more or
681
00:43:03,707 --> 00:43:07,200
less what he was doing last
season as having kind of a off
682
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:13,400
the field or he's, you know,
semi present leadership role
683
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:17,800
because he was so often.
I do either not available or
684
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:22,000
when he was available he was
limited having him be on the
685
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,700
field and hopefully be you know
up to full strength is going to
686
00:43:24,700 --> 00:43:28,100
be good for us.
Going to be absolutely great for
687
00:43:28,100 --> 00:43:29,900
swear on.
Now we already mentioned And
688
00:43:29,900 --> 00:43:33,100
that Smith got the pay bump and
kind of one reason he got the
689
00:43:33,100 --> 00:43:35,900
pay bump mother, you say or not,
they gave him the title passing
690
00:43:35,900 --> 00:43:39,400
game coordinator and brown.
I know what kind of caught your
691
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:44,900
ear was about and he got that
role but it was kind of how he's
692
00:43:44,900 --> 00:43:49,500
built the where he's gotten to
here, you know, his kind of
693
00:43:49,508 --> 00:43:52,300
talked about his journey which
was really a good poignant
694
00:43:52,300 --> 00:43:56,100
thing.
Yes, he talked about being
695
00:43:56,100 --> 00:44:01,300
having GA roles that kind of
helped him move in to where he
696
00:44:01,300 --> 00:44:05,600
is now between GA rolls with
William and Mary and Penn State
697
00:44:06,700 --> 00:44:10,500
working at JMU with a Powerhouse
program at that level.
698
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:16,700
I mean, he's kind of kind of
seen a lot of things from for a
699
00:44:16,700 --> 00:44:20,900
guy that's relatively young and
still up and coming at the
700
00:44:20,900 --> 00:44:23,400
cornerback coaching position of
secondary coaching position.
701
00:44:23,900 --> 00:44:28,500
Um, and I think that that's why
you saw, you know, essentially
702
00:44:28,500 --> 00:44:33,100
what happened going into NC
State with him, being tapped as
703
00:44:33,100 --> 00:44:36,900
the the play caller, emergency
play caller.
704
00:44:36,900 --> 00:44:41,100
If J Hamm is out there.
So I think that that was a
705
00:44:41,100 --> 00:44:45,500
pretty big, big thing, because
he was the backup signal caller
706
00:44:45,500 --> 00:44:49,000
before J, Hamm knew that he had
covid.
707
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:50,600
So this was something that was
planned.
708
00:44:51,900 --> 00:44:55,600
Well, in advance of the
emergency situation that that
709
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,500
resulted in that being what they
went with.
710
00:44:58,500 --> 00:45:03,100
So that speaks a lot to the
trust that they have in Smith as
711
00:45:03,100 --> 00:45:08,200
a young coach it, absolutely,
especially being the second in
712
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,600
command on that, you know, the
play calling thing, but then you
713
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:16,600
start, you know, I think you
mentioned it but Get letting him
714
00:45:16,700 --> 00:45:19,800
try different things in his room
as a young coach.
715
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,500
I'm sure there are a lot of
young coaches that it's
716
00:45:22,500 --> 00:45:24,300
basically, you need to follow
the script.
717
00:45:24,300 --> 00:45:27,400
This is what you do where you
already said it.
718
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,400
They trust him they're giving it
open.
719
00:45:30,100 --> 00:45:31,400
Okay.
Something else, they trust them
720
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:32,800
with Brian.
They trust him with Virginia
721
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,400
recruiting to the line of stuck
out.
722
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:40,500
We want to keep the Virginia
boys home, the man at resonated
723
00:45:40,500 --> 00:45:45,600
as I was as we were listening to
it discuss JC about JC's,
724
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:51,800
experience up and down the 95
Corridor and Richmond and Nova
725
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:59,100
64 eastbound I-64 Corridor down
the 75.
726
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,800
Like if you listen to that, he's
speaking the language to
727
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,700
Virginia.
Those are the corridors.
728
00:46:03,900 --> 00:46:08,000
Those are the areas we need to
recruit big and it seems like
729
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,600
they're locked in on it for this
year.
730
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,100
They're locked in on VA.
I'll yeah.
731
00:46:14,100 --> 00:46:17,200
I mean, I think him and JC,
you're going to do some, some
732
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:20,200
pretty big things.
Because Smith seems like a
733
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,300
really good communicator.
JC is a good communicator.
734
00:46:23,300 --> 00:46:26,500
He's got a ton of contacts
especially with the High School
735
00:46:26,500 --> 00:46:31,800
coaches you know, good Avenues
to pursue and you know,
736
00:46:32,300 --> 00:46:35,400
relationships to cultivate and I
think that's going to be a big
737
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,800
thing and you know, we haven't
seen the success.
738
00:46:38,900 --> 00:46:41,200
Is that we'd like to see
recruiting Virginia in the last
739
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:45,300
few years and you know, whether
we see it come to fruition or
740
00:46:45,300 --> 00:46:48,000
not.
You at least know, they're
741
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:52,000
doubling down on it.
The emphasis has there and
742
00:46:52,700 --> 00:46:54,400
that's a start.
That's, that's something to
743
00:46:54,408 --> 00:46:57,700
build off of.
Absolutely definitely something
744
00:46:57,700 --> 00:47:02,600
big to build off of.
And again, you've got to
745
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:07,200
Homegrown guys with Smith and
ham, obviously, JC with all the
746
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:11,100
connections between playing it
Tech being a ga attack.
747
00:47:12,300 --> 00:47:14,200
Coaching at JM using coach of it
Marshall.
748
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:18,800
He's basically been part of this
state for 25 plus years.
749
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,500
So yeah, we're getting more on
him a little bit.
750
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,600
Oh yes.
But let's next let's go to Adam
751
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,300
like them Berg.
Hey Brian.
752
00:47:28,300 --> 00:47:32,500
How many are you running backs?
We got, we got a fuck ton of
753
00:47:32,500 --> 00:47:35,800
running backs, man.
I don't know if that's like a
754
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,200
unit of measurement that we can
count here, but I'm going to
755
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:43,100
call it a fuck ton and it is and
I love Of what he said, man.
756
00:47:43,100 --> 00:47:47,900
He was very kind of upfront.
Like, oh, wait Smith on the mic,
757
00:47:48,300 --> 00:47:51,300
I'm real like tandberg.
I think shocked me and Brian,
758
00:47:51,300 --> 00:47:55,100
you know, no notes in front of
them, but very, very articulate,
759
00:47:55,500 --> 00:47:59,700
very to-the-point knowledge
base, very knowledge, straight
760
00:47:59,700 --> 00:48:02,200
straight forward to like
straight shooter didn't like
761
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,800
didn't didn't get down rabbit
holes or anything like that.
762
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:09,200
Very to-the-point but but
explained himself very well.
763
00:48:10,300 --> 00:48:12,600
I love what you talked about the
crowded back there to get asked
764
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,400
about it.
And basically said he wants to
765
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,100
have a full evaluation of all
the running backs in the spring,
766
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:23,100
you know, and basically an
organization of the running
767
00:48:23,100 --> 00:48:26,700
back, every rep is important.
Every mistake is important to
768
00:48:26,700 --> 00:48:31,800
his guys, but he, he made
something when he after he said,
769
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,300
that sort of stuff.
Because, you know, somebody
770
00:48:34,300 --> 00:48:36,600
asked about the portal and he
was just like, you know what?
771
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:40,400
After this spring You don't hear
this often.
772
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,200
We're going to have open and
honest conversation with every
773
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:47,400
running back in the room.
Which I to me, you don't hear
774
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:52,000
coaches, say that at all because
I he's telling them he's going
775
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,600
to tell guys.
Yep, hey, you're stepping up.
776
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,400
You might not be on the too deep
this year or getting a lot of
777
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:58,900
reps.
But you're working there or
778
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,600
listen, you might need to you
might need to get in the
779
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,900
Portland.
Yeah I mean and I think that's a
780
00:49:05,908 --> 00:49:07,800
big thing.
He talked about a couple guys
781
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:12,400
that have the potential ability
to make position change choices
782
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,900
at the end of the spring and
then some guys that he's just
783
00:49:14,900 --> 00:49:17,000
going to have opened.
A conversation like amen.
784
00:49:17,900 --> 00:49:22,200
You know, you're not touching
the four or five deep at running
785
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,400
back here so you're probably not
going to be getting any reps
786
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,700
come this fall.
You're here are some choices you
787
00:49:27,700 --> 00:49:29,900
can do, you can stick it out,
you know, whatever.
788
00:49:29,900 --> 00:49:32,800
Maybe you know, you can see what
the transfer portal holes or you
789
00:49:32,808 --> 00:49:36,400
can look at change of positions
and get an opportunity, either
790
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,000
on the other side of the ball or
at another position on offense,
791
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:40,800
whether it's wide receiver, or
something else.
792
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,400
But just having this, I mean,
that's that's a good.
793
00:49:45,700 --> 00:49:48,900
That's refreshing to hear from
me because it sounds like we're
794
00:49:48,900 --> 00:49:53,200
going to really try to get this
running back room where it needs
795
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:56,200
to be and it's going to start
with the spring and really
796
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,900
seeing what all these guys can
bring to the table.
797
00:49:58,900 --> 00:50:03,700
Because I know I've said it on
here before it's hard to get
798
00:50:03,700 --> 00:50:05,500
those type of evaluations in the
fall.
799
00:50:05,500 --> 00:50:10,500
You're you're focusing so much
on who were my best three to
800
00:50:10,500 --> 00:50:14,600
four guys at the position and
not looking at, you know, the
801
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:19,100
down Channel situation and we
were already thick at running
802
00:50:19,100 --> 00:50:21,400
back going into fall, but there
wasn't a whole lot of
803
00:50:21,500 --> 00:50:23,700
evaluation.
And so, many of the guys that we
804
00:50:23,700 --> 00:50:28,400
were bringing on where either
transfers or freshman, or green
805
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:32,000
guys that are coming from
giucose and things like that.
806
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,600
So, If there wasn't a lot of
that evaluation that could take
807
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:37,900
place last year and getting a
chance to do that.
808
00:50:37,900 --> 00:50:40,800
With such a crowded back.
Feel is going to be nice because
809
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:45,800
will at least be able to know we
have Beyond you know the first
810
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:49,500
two to three guys and see if
there's some guys that may fit
811
00:50:49,500 --> 00:50:52,600
somewhere else and guys that can
open up roster spots that we can
812
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:56,700
fill with, with other need
positions, because we can't keep
813
00:50:56,700 --> 00:51:00,600
doing this thing where we load
up on, you know, Exposition one
814
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:02,800
year and we opposition the next
year and then N.
815
00:51:03,900 --> 00:51:06,600
You know, put ourselves in a
situation where we're thin at
816
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:11,700
certain positions every year
going into the new season, true
817
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,400
well, Brian.
He also said something that
818
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:18,500
absolutely got you a static as
we were listening to it.
819
00:51:21,300 --> 00:51:26,800
Yes, he did.
Apparently we're to be working
820
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:30,000
with with, to back looks in the
spring two of them.
821
00:51:31,900 --> 00:51:36,500
Is as I sent Brian.
Go on, let's go.
822
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:44,800
Tell me more, tell me more.
Yeah, so I'll be we had talked
823
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:46,200
about.
I will take a Victory lap on
824
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:47,200
this.
I know I've already taken a
825
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:51,800
small one earlier on the court,
Nelson situation within and
826
00:51:51,808 --> 00:51:54,700
hooker, but I will take another
Victory lap on, you know,
827
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:59,600
someone that said before
Blackshear even got his waiver,
828
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:08,100
that we need to be looking at 21
Personnel, a lot and using the
829
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,800
Back as kind of a hybrid Wing
slot.
830
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,800
Receiver that can also do some
things out of the backfield.
831
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,400
We've got Blackshear on the
roster.
832
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,100
Now we're bringing in a guy,
like, chance, black going
833
00:52:20,100 --> 00:52:22,300
forward.
We've got a couple other guys
834
00:52:22,300 --> 00:52:25,500
that are versatile, that can do
stuff in that type of situation.
835
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,400
Let's take advantage of that,
let's not.
836
00:52:30,900 --> 00:52:34,000
Let's not pigeonhole guys into.
Okay, well, you're a running
837
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:35,700
back.
So you have to carry the ball
838
00:52:35,700 --> 00:52:42,500
out of the backfield in inside
and outside Zone, like it was so
839
00:52:42,500 --> 00:52:45,300
and I'll be I was glad that we
finally, the last, what?
840
00:52:45,300 --> 00:52:48,300
Two or three games got
Blackshear more involved in the
841
00:52:48,300 --> 00:52:52,100
passing game from the slot
position in from the wing and
842
00:52:52,100 --> 00:52:55,700
doing things that weren't just,
you know, you line up next to
843
00:52:55,700 --> 00:52:57,200
the quarterback and take the
hand off.
844
00:52:58,700 --> 00:53:02,600
So, I mean that was nice but you
know, I like that he's still
845
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:06,000
gonna be working out of the
running back room, but the fact
846
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,500
that we're going to be doing
different things with black
847
00:53:09,500 --> 00:53:13,300
sharing with other guys of the
similar type of skill set.
848
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,700
Whether that's Keshawn king or
chance, black, or anybody else?
849
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,200
Yeah, that's only going to pay
dividends for us.
850
00:53:20,500 --> 00:53:22,000
I mean, there's no downside to
that.
851
00:53:22,900 --> 00:53:25,600
And one thing, you all the black
sheer thing that always got you,
852
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:29,100
I wish it coach, I don't care if
it was one thick or Nielsen like
853
00:53:29,100 --> 00:53:31,800
them Burg someone would have
came out.
854
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,400
And just kind of said, the
blacks here thing and basically
855
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:40,500
said, you know, He was, he was
essentially Goering, it's so
856
00:53:40,500 --> 00:53:44,100
late.
It was just too late for us, but
857
00:53:44,100 --> 00:53:46,900
Brian, we had this discussion,
is this, we were talking about
858
00:53:46,900 --> 00:53:49,900
that.
Well, here's the thing, you have
859
00:53:49,900 --> 00:53:56,300
some guys who are maybe not a
carbon copy Of Raheem
860
00:53:56,300 --> 00:53:59,700
Blackshear, but they could do
some of the things he did and
861
00:53:59,700 --> 00:54:01,400
it's sort of me.
And you started discussing, it's
862
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:05,900
like, why wouldn't you start
essentially showing looks giving
863
00:54:05,900 --> 00:54:11,000
those guys out of interchanging
with, Rahim, to me, it says
864
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,500
something about certain people
of the coaching staff.
865
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:18,900
Not being, you know up here, not
thinking like that.
866
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,700
But neither here nor there,
somebody should have just said
867
00:54:21,700 --> 00:54:25,000
that it would have a made Brian
less pissed off during certain
868
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:28,700
games.
Next year and you know things
869
00:54:28,700 --> 00:54:31,800
like that.
Brian he he mentioned a couple
870
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:33,800
things, you know, Jalen
Holtzman.
871
00:54:33,900 --> 00:54:37,300
Obviously we feel generous
probably, you know, that name is
872
00:54:37,300 --> 00:54:39,600
gonna be penciled in at the top
of the list away here and
873
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:43,500
especially the back half of the
season but he hit Omar Ali and
874
00:54:43,500 --> 00:54:46,500
he hit on Keshawn King.
What were your thoughts about?
875
00:54:46,500 --> 00:54:48,900
You know, how he discussed those
two guys.
876
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,000
Yeah, I mean the big thing that
stood out for me with Marco Lee
877
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:56,500
and this kind of explains why
maybe he didn't get as many
878
00:54:56,500 --> 00:55:00,900
looks until late in the season
last year is that he was still
879
00:55:00,900 --> 00:55:05,700
learning the system, especially
what the running back does.
880
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,300
When they don't have their, have
the football in their hands.
881
00:55:09,100 --> 00:55:11,900
And that makes a lot of sense in
terms of a guy, like Marco
882
00:55:11,900 --> 00:55:15,500
coming into the system, you
know?
883
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:20,600
I'll compare him a little bit
with rain Blackshear who while
884
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:24,800
he didn't learn the system.
He had been in a system that he
885
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:26,900
had to do all those things
already.
886
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:31,000
He had to work without the
football weather from the slot
887
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:32,800
position or from the running
back position.
888
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:38,300
So he was little bit more
seasoned and ready to contribute
889
00:55:38,300 --> 00:55:40,800
even though he wasn't
necessarily a master of this
890
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:44,400
current system, whereas a guy
like Marco Lee is for the most
891
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:50,500
part, Learning a lot of.
The things that he does without
892
00:55:50,500 --> 00:55:53,700
the football in his hands, for
the first time, he's never done
893
00:55:53,700 --> 00:55:56,000
it in a college football game at
this level.
894
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:59,100
So, that's something that's
going to take some time to come
895
00:55:59,100 --> 00:56:03,900
along and especially not having
spring having a very different
896
00:56:04,900 --> 00:56:06,900
fall camp.
And let's talk about fall Camp
897
00:56:06,900 --> 00:56:09,400
because you talked about it with
the black sheer thing.
898
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:16,900
Fall Camp, reps are finite and
you're trying to find.
899
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,600
Kind of the best two or three
guys, you can put on the field.
900
00:56:21,900 --> 00:56:25,300
So at the running back position
in this is where the black sure
901
00:56:25,300 --> 00:56:26,500
thing.
Your talk about makes more
902
00:56:26,500 --> 00:56:29,800
sense.
The waiver didn't come in till
903
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:33,300
late.
You didn't until you got the
904
00:56:33,300 --> 00:56:35,300
waiver.
You couldn't justify taking reps
905
00:56:35,300 --> 00:56:39,400
from other guys.
Just to put blacks you're out
906
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,400
there for X number of reps or
whatever.
907
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,600
The second team reps are and all
that stuff.
908
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:48,400
You know, you had Keshawn King
that probably came in at a
909
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:50,700
weight that you weren't
comfortable with is him being
910
00:56:50,700 --> 00:56:53,100
the primary spell back.
He had some other injuries, he
911
00:56:53,100 --> 00:56:56,900
was dealing with.
There was a several several
912
00:56:56,900 --> 00:56:59,200
things that were going on for
Keyshawn King.
913
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:04,300
You had everybody else other
than Jalen Holston that was
914
00:57:04,300 --> 00:57:08,000
very, very green.
In this system.
915
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:12,100
So I mean if you say there's a
misstep in all of this, in terms
916
00:57:12,100 --> 00:57:16,000
of who got carries who got
touches etc etc.
917
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:20,500
In 2020 Holston, not getting as
many touches early as probably
918
00:57:20,500 --> 00:57:25,200
the the most egregious error
here, everything else is
919
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:30,300
explainable.
So that's kind of what I based
920
00:57:30,300 --> 00:57:33,600
on the conversation that
Lichtenberg had with the media.
921
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,900
That's kind of where I came out.
Yeah.
922
00:57:38,100 --> 00:57:41,600
In, you know, but that is what
it was last year.
923
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:46,000
You know, you you was on the Fly
and we went five and six, it was
924
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:49,800
not the expectations we wanted.
We did have a bunch of new guys
925
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,000
there.
Maybe, maybe that truly
926
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:52,700
satisfying.
The eight ball.
927
00:57:52,707 --> 00:57:55,400
Maybe I'm trying to be an
optimist right now, but
928
00:57:55,700 --> 00:57:58,700
something, you know, I was
critical of the Luxembourg
929
00:57:58,700 --> 00:58:02,000
higher didn't like it, but as
you start reading more and more
930
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:06,200
and you start listening to him,
I mean, he grinded his ass off.
931
00:58:06,900 --> 00:58:10,300
Yep.
Big time I mean he's been in
932
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:15,600
admin roles, he's been in GA
roles, he's been in.
933
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:20,700
I mean 12 years until you get
your first position coach role
934
00:58:21,100 --> 00:58:22,900
and doing a bunch of different
things.
935
00:58:23,900 --> 00:58:27,600
Yes, off the field and behind
the scenes.
936
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:31,300
So, I mean there's been a lot of
things that he's seen and I
937
00:58:31,300 --> 00:58:35,500
think, Of anybody.
He's kind of got a better CEO
938
00:58:35,500 --> 00:58:39,400
type vision of at least, from
the offensive side of things.
939
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:43,300
Than even, you know, your
coordinator has probably
940
00:58:43,300 --> 00:58:45,700
probably better than anybody
other than 20 on the staff.
941
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:48,500
True.
And he loves football.
942
00:58:48,900 --> 00:58:52,600
There's are you don't if you
guys look at his journey started
943
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,800
in 2007, but he's probably in
his mid-20s.
944
00:58:57,100 --> 00:58:59,800
Two.
Now that guy loves football,
945
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:05,700
there is not a doubt about that
and you know, Brian wrote down
946
00:59:05,700 --> 00:59:09,300
this quote, and basically, he's
been grinding his whole life,
947
00:59:10,300 --> 00:59:13,800
you know?
And to have somebody like that
948
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:15,400
with that mentality He Walked on
it.
949
00:59:15,408 --> 00:59:21,300
Nebraska again, his personality
on the microphone, it's kind of
950
00:59:21,300 --> 00:59:22,600
impressive.
He mentioned his parents were
951
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:25,500
teachers, so obviously paying
for all these important people,
952
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:30,300
you know, talks about the
recruiting game being 24/7
953
00:59:30,300 --> 00:59:32,100
non-stop.
You can't stop.
954
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:39,000
You know, I'm if he puts out
another 1,000 yard, rusher in a
955
00:59:39,500 --> 00:59:44,000
bind said earlier, maybe I have
to store born the like den Berg
956
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:48,800
trains.
All right, let's move on the
957
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:53,500
lowest man on the totem pole.
Currently Jack, Tyler, you know,
958
00:59:53,500 --> 00:59:56,900
first of all those Tracy plays
doing last year that Jack Tyler
959
00:59:56,900 --> 00:59:59,000
was the emergency emergency play
caller.
960
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:02,500
You know, all Smith was the
emergency play caller as
961
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:07,600
Discussed earlier.
You know that's still a head
962
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:11,900
scratcher for me but I mean that
that's a different discussion or
963
01:00:11,900 --> 01:00:15,900
but yeah, we're was Clays.
And why was Clay's not giving
964
01:00:15,900 --> 01:00:19,100
this responsibility.
So like I'm not sure if Clay's
965
01:00:19,100 --> 01:00:23,700
showed up and just didn't give a
shit or he wasn't there or what
966
01:00:23,700 --> 01:00:25,600
like Tracy.
Claeys you obviously a good
967
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:30,600
coach like you don't have the
length career and success that
968
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:32,500
Clays has without being a
pretty.
969
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:36,800
Decent, and respectable coach.
I know he was coaching number
970
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:40,200
one out of position in terms of
what he's traditionally.
971
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:47,000
Coached number two, In a
situation where he's more of a
972
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:52,800
mentor versus a leader which may
be just a different Dynamic from
973
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:55,200
him, whatever it was, it didn't
work.
974
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:59,500
And you know this is definitely
an addition by subtraction
975
01:00:59,500 --> 01:01:02,500
situation in my mind getting
Jack as the primary linebacker
976
01:01:02,500 --> 01:01:06,800
coach.
Absolutely and again jack that
977
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:10,600
guy walked on then became a
starred in Mike linebacker has
978
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:15,400
essentially again.
You know, he worked his way,
979
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:19,100
went to JMU came back here in
the way it's down in the
980
01:01:19,100 --> 01:01:21,600
interview.
He had a potential chance last
981
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:25,700
year at maybe taking a lower
jaw, but he decided to stay
982
01:01:25,700 --> 01:01:29,600
again.
The Lure of Virginia Tech, we
983
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:33,100
talked about a talked about 420
in a very high regard.
984
01:01:33,100 --> 01:01:34,700
Talked about him as a Amir
coaches.
985
01:01:34,700 --> 01:01:39,000
Anyone in the program is on the
right track and I know these
986
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:42,000
guys are, we may judge about
that.
987
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:57,500
I better see Improvement that be
terrible.
988
01:01:57,900 --> 01:02:01,100
But talked about himself.
As a coach you want to try to
989
01:02:01,100 --> 01:02:03,900
stay even Keel.
Never too high, never to do.
990
01:02:04,100 --> 01:02:07,900
Get caught up in the moment
mature room.
991
01:02:07,900 --> 01:02:11,700
You know, you know, he's
essentially trying to take his
992
01:02:12,500 --> 01:02:14,900
plane self, bringing it to a
coaching self.
993
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:17,200
What I hope he can do with the
guys.
994
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:20,400
We have, because we've got a
good core right now.
995
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:26,800
Who are so much physically more
gifted than Jack ever was, but
996
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:31,600
if they can get the mind of
Jack, Tyler, and Dax and
997
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:37,800
Tisdale's, and Dean's and key,
Sean's bodies, that's gonna be a
998
01:02:37,808 --> 01:02:41,100
nasty room and I know that is a
key to Springs.
999
01:02:41,100 --> 01:02:43,300
Getting the depth back in that
room.
1000
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:47,600
For this year.
Yeah, yeah, that definitely
1001
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:49,400
that.
And, I mean, he talked about,
1002
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:52,600
you know, talked about Dax
talked about Tisdale, he said
1003
01:02:53,300 --> 01:02:56,800
for Tisdale, you know, sky's the
limit for him as a player.
1004
01:02:56,800 --> 01:03:02,600
He's put on some good weight,
this spring for the 2019, yeah,
1005
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:03,700
yeah.
In a month.
1006
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:07,600
Yeah.
But apparently, you know,
1007
01:03:08,300 --> 01:03:11,000
maturing in terms of how he's
approaching the game.
1008
01:03:11,700 --> 01:03:14,900
How is approaching preparation
for practice and for, Four
1009
01:03:14,900 --> 01:03:16,800
games.
So I think that's going to be
1010
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:19,400
important in terms of his growth
because I mean, we talked about
1011
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:23,400
it on the podcast a lot of times
in 2020.
1012
01:03:24,300 --> 01:03:28,100
It wasn't so much that Tisdale
looked even with his weight
1013
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:31,600
overmatched is that he wasn't
where he needed to be.
1014
01:03:33,500 --> 01:03:36,700
It looked like he didn't really,
he wasn't comfortable in the
1015
01:03:36,700 --> 01:03:40,500
scheme at all.
There were moments where he was
1016
01:03:40,500 --> 01:03:43,000
there.
He was disruptive but when he
1017
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:47,300
wasn't, it, totally created a
big chunk play for the other
1018
01:03:47,300 --> 01:03:50,400
offense.
So, you know, getting more
1019
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:52,900
preparation in there.
And I think he said the
1020
01:03:52,908 --> 01:03:55,400
maturity, I know he had a son,
what?
1021
01:03:55,400 --> 01:04:01,400
Right at the end of the season
or so that definitely, we can
1022
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:03,100
speak to that.
That definitely matures you
1023
01:04:03,100 --> 01:04:05,600
pretty quick.
So you can even if you have one
1024
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:08,600
at 29 like me and you're still
just a man show.
1025
01:04:08,700 --> 01:04:11,900
Child but it'll mature you up
real quick.
1026
01:04:11,900 --> 01:04:17,400
Yeah so so for sure they're
talked about Dax and sliding
1027
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:19,700
into Mike and that's going to be
a big move for him.
1028
01:04:19,700 --> 01:04:24,100
I know we've talked about that a
little bit earlier in some of
1029
01:04:24,100 --> 01:04:26,200
the other things we were talking
about.
1030
01:04:27,100 --> 01:04:29,600
For the, for the offseason
grades and stuff like that.
1031
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:35,000
But Dax moving to Mike is going
to be big for his improved and I
1032
01:04:35,008 --> 01:04:37,800
think you're going to see a
pretty big jump in the quality
1033
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:40,300
of his play.
I don't think you're going to
1034
01:04:40,308 --> 01:04:44,300
see quite as many decks haters
out there and I get the decks
1035
01:04:44,300 --> 01:04:46,000
hate.
I gotta understand it.
1036
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:51,200
It's definitely, I mean there's
there's elements of like, the
1037
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:57,800
whole the fanbase doesn't help
it because the fanbase embraced
1038
01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:02,300
him right away and sometimes
when you put a guy on a pedestal
1039
01:05:02,300 --> 01:05:07,400
that hasn't put the product on
the field to earn necessarily
1040
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:10,200
that recognition, there's
there's blowback, right?
1041
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:13,500
You see it all the time you saw
with Tim Tebow, for example in
1042
01:05:13,500 --> 01:05:16,600
the NFL.
I mean there's so many classic
1043
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:20,800
examples of guys that They get
put on a pedestal based on
1044
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:23,900
whether it's character, whether
it's their recruiting rankings,
1045
01:05:23,900 --> 01:05:28,200
whether it's, you know, how they
play out the gate, whatever it
1046
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:32,600
is, they get elevated to an
expectation level out the gate.
1047
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:35,500
And then when they don't want
some of those expectations going
1048
01:05:35,500 --> 01:05:39,600
forward, Yeah, you get you get
some blowback from certain parts
1049
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:42,100
of the fan base and there's a me
some people that's that, you
1050
01:05:42,100 --> 01:05:44,400
know, keep him on there and
that's where that friction is
1051
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:45,500
created.
Right?
1052
01:05:45,700 --> 01:05:49,800
So we've got guys, it's that's
still keep Dax at this pedestal
1053
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:52,400
level that we expected him to
play at and then there's
1054
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:54,600
everybody else and saying, well
he's not playing at that level.
1055
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:56,700
Stop putting him up there.
You know.
1056
01:05:56,800 --> 01:06:02,700
Yeah you get that element.
But the Jacks point and we've
1057
01:06:02,700 --> 01:06:05,700
said it in the past, that's
wasn't a backer.
1058
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:09,800
The reason that you play backers
because he understood his
1059
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:12,500
liabilities and he tried to
minimize them but he said it
1060
01:06:12,500 --> 01:06:14,300
straight up.
His size is physical.
1061
01:06:14,300 --> 01:06:18,200
Makeup is more suited for Mike
as the borderline athleticism
1062
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:21,300
played backer, but not the full
blown that you need to.
1063
01:06:21,700 --> 01:06:24,400
And then he kind of complimented
that Dax is more of a
1064
01:06:24,408 --> 01:06:27,700
quarterback on the defense well
that couldn't be the quarterback
1065
01:06:27,700 --> 01:06:30,300
because Brooke was a hell of a
quarterback on defense.
1066
01:06:30,900 --> 01:06:34,700
So, back again, didn't get to
show that sort of leadership
1067
01:06:34,700 --> 01:06:37,400
role in the mic.
Yes, he's The rah-rah guy.
1068
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:38,500
Yes.
He claps his hands.
1069
01:06:38,500 --> 01:06:40,000
Yes.
He swings the towel, which you
1070
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:42,400
need that sort of energy.
I think you're going to see a
1071
01:06:42,408 --> 01:06:46,500
little bit different, you talked
about and being the quarterback,
1072
01:06:46,500 --> 01:06:49,900
him being the coach on the field
in Brian, you've mentioned a
1073
01:06:49,908 --> 01:06:57,300
couple times to me, you know, So
many times it's like deck was in
1074
01:06:57,300 --> 01:07:02,200
the right spot but he couldn't
finish or you know Dak just was
1075
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:06,200
once a quarter step behind where
he needed to be at the back or
1076
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:07,600
spot.
Yep.
1077
01:07:08,500 --> 01:07:12,900
Dax was rarely out of position.
Dax's problem was that Dax
1078
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:16,700
couldn't athletically.
Hang with some of the
1079
01:07:16,700 --> 01:07:20,300
responsibilities he was given
and sometimes when he was there
1080
01:07:20,300 --> 01:07:23,800
to make a play sometimes you
miss a tackle or he'd get
1081
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:31,800
absorbed. by block, but Again, I
say it all the time like you
1082
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:35,700
know 60% of a good defensive
play is being where the fuck you
1083
01:07:35,707 --> 01:07:39,400
need to be.
And he pretty much every play he
1084
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:43,800
was wearing needed to be.
So now he that's a start that's
1085
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:46,300
a start in now he's the
quarterback of the defense.
1086
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:49,900
He's playing in a position where
he won't be as much of a
1087
01:07:49,900 --> 01:07:52,500
liability athletically.
Yep.
1088
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:54,400
So I think you're going to see
some good things from him.
1089
01:07:54,900 --> 01:07:57,100
I want to see him work on.
Tackling I want to see him work
1090
01:07:57,100 --> 01:07:59,000
on shedding blocks.
That's still going to be two
1091
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:04,600
areas that he has to get better
in regardless of backer or Mike
1092
01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:07,200
and he's going to have to get
better.
1093
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:09,900
Especially at shedding the
blocks from the mic perspective.
1094
01:08:09,900 --> 01:08:12,700
But I think overall, I think
he's going to do a good job.
1095
01:08:13,700 --> 01:08:15,300
I think you're probably going to
see.
1096
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:19,899
I think he in this system, he's
going to be better than Rook
1097
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:26,100
because we saw get kind of
exposed a little bit because of
1098
01:08:26,100 --> 01:08:28,300
his at lack of athleticism last
year.
1099
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:33,300
And his probably not quite being
at his peak level of
1100
01:08:33,700 --> 01:08:39,899
conditioning coming into Camp
because so this system having
1101
01:08:39,899 --> 01:08:41,600
more athletic linebackers is
better.
1102
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:46,000
So you're talking about a guy
that's already was playing in a
1103
01:08:46,100 --> 01:08:49,200
any area that requires more
athleticism last year and moving
1104
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:52,200
him into an area that requires
less.
1105
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:56,500
But like I said, I think out the
gate, he's a better athlete than
1106
01:08:56,500 --> 01:08:59,399
Rook, but he's going to have to
work on some of those other
1107
01:08:59,399 --> 01:09:01,300
things.
A truck was really good at like
1108
01:09:01,700 --> 01:09:05,000
not getting blocked because at
that shit Excel.
1109
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:10,300
Yeah, yes and shedding.
Good Lord could look for we jump
1110
01:09:10,300 --> 01:09:19,300
over JC price one last little
quote from Jack in thing about
1111
01:09:19,300 --> 01:09:23,700
this brand he says man coach
Fuente is a very loyal human
1112
01:09:23,700 --> 01:09:27,500
being very little coach, reminds
me of somebody else.
1113
01:09:27,500 --> 01:09:32,100
It was in Blacksburg.
And many times, we screamed as
1114
01:09:32,100 --> 01:09:36,100
fans, we want people fired and
people didn't get fired.
1115
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:40,899
And Bud said it, you keep
hearing it even from these young
1116
01:09:40,899 --> 01:09:46,899
guys coming in about how they
remind, Current coach with
1117
01:09:46,899 --> 01:09:48,300
former coach.
Yep.
1118
01:09:48,300 --> 01:09:51,100
But let's jump up.
JC, who played for that former
1119
01:09:51,100 --> 01:09:54,300
coach.
And when the first line comes
1120
01:09:54,300 --> 01:09:57,800
out of his mouth is, it's my
dream to return to Blacksburg
1121
01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:01,400
man.
That's it man.
1122
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:03,600
You know they hired the right
person?
1123
01:10:03,900 --> 01:10:07,500
Yep.
Nothing else needed to be said
1124
01:10:07,700 --> 01:10:12,700
about that higher when he said
that, I mean the Jaycees a
1125
01:10:12,700 --> 01:10:18,500
legend, you know, it was part of
that 95 team and everything but
1126
01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:26,600
he's coming in, he's a veteran,
he's a grinder and, you know, He
1127
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:29,300
already has somewhat of a
relationship with people on the
1128
01:10:29,300 --> 01:10:31,000
staff.
You know, he had been invited by
1129
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:35,000
for one day to the summer camps
coming down from Huntington, you
1130
01:10:35,008 --> 01:10:37,300
know, essentially Scout players
and some people say, well, why
1131
01:10:37,300 --> 01:10:39,800
would you do that?
It's done all over the place
1132
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:47,300
that, you know, don't say it's
not and you know, you wrote this
1133
01:10:47,300 --> 01:10:47,900
down.
Brian.
1134
01:10:47,900 --> 01:10:53,200
I want to credit with it, but
you feel like JC is a guy that
1135
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:55,700
is going to provide that will
provide an input.
1136
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:57,500
Understand, he's part of a
whole.
1137
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:00,800
Yeah.
And where would I put that in?
1138
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:04,000
Was when he was asked and he
actually asked for a
1139
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:09,700
clarification about the question
kind of asked about what things
1140
01:11:09,700 --> 01:11:14,500
from his experience at Virginia
Tech can he used to mold and
1141
01:11:14,500 --> 01:11:16,700
change what's happening on the
current staff?
1142
01:11:16,700 --> 01:11:19,800
And he's more.
He seems like a guy that will
1143
01:11:21,300 --> 01:11:25,700
speak up when there's something
to be said, but realizing that
1144
01:11:26,100 --> 01:11:29,100
His perspective is not the one.
I'm not the only one that
1145
01:11:29,100 --> 01:11:32,500
matters and he wants to kind of
work within the framework of
1146
01:11:32,500 --> 01:11:36,300
what the program is working
towards and understands his role
1147
01:11:36,300 --> 01:11:40,800
but also understands that he is
going to be leaned on for some
1148
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:45,200
of this thing because he does
have ties to the Glory Days.
1149
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:47,600
If you will, he does have ties
to the former staff.
1150
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:52,500
He does understand what it takes
to win at this University.
1151
01:11:52,500 --> 01:11:55,200
So there are elements that he's
going to bring that, he's going
1152
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:56,600
to be the guy that sleeps.
Leaned on.
1153
01:11:57,200 --> 01:12:01,600
But he also understands that,
you know, his voice isn't the
1154
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:03,600
one that needs to be the loudest
all the time.
1155
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:09,400
Yeah.
And you see that that's, that's
1156
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:11,000
kind of a type of person.
You mean, because I have a
1157
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:14,100
feeling when his voice does Get
Loud, people will listen.
1158
01:12:14,500 --> 01:12:18,300
He also discussed his
relationship with J Hamm in
1159
01:12:18,300 --> 01:12:21,900
actually similar to Jack.
We just discussed.
1160
01:12:21,900 --> 01:12:26,700
Jack had some offers They
offered J hammock position when
1161
01:12:26,700 --> 01:12:30,000
he was in that director of
player Personnel position.
1162
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:32,100
They offered him an on-field
position and obviously he
1163
01:12:32,100 --> 01:12:37,000
declined it and that got J Hamm
where he is obviously it goes
1164
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:41,600
back when you know JC was a ga
that's one hand was playing here
1165
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:42,400
man.
Yep.
1166
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:47,900
So those guys go back, you know
close to 20 years and you know
1167
01:12:47,900 --> 01:12:55,000
again You know, it's just cool
to see that and then the other
1168
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:58,700
piece, which I think I'm sure
you would have loved to been
1169
01:12:58,700 --> 01:13:01,700
sitting in this room.
Brian is, you know, really
1170
01:13:01,700 --> 01:13:07,900
didn't know, you know really,
you know really know Bill.
1171
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:10,100
Yeah.
And then comes in they
1172
01:13:10,100 --> 01:13:11,800
immediately get together and
what are they gonna do?
1173
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:18,200
They chop it up talking football
for four hours and you know, I
1174
01:13:18,208 --> 01:13:21,200
think there's a there's a good
relationship there because I
1175
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:23,800
think you know he kind of talked
about it.
1176
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:27,900
They don't necessarily have what
you would call mirror images of
1177
01:13:28,300 --> 01:13:31,700
philosophy on defensive line
play, but I think that's a good
1178
01:13:31,700 --> 01:13:35,600
thing because that kind of
pushes Each other to kind of,
1179
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:39,700
listen to the other, you know,
see what else is out there.
1180
01:13:39,700 --> 01:13:42,900
You know, you don't want to just
get in that mindset of my ways.
1181
01:13:42,900 --> 01:13:45,100
The right way, you're always
wanted to grow.
1182
01:13:45,100 --> 01:13:48,600
You want to learn having a guy
with somewhat different
1183
01:13:48,900 --> 01:13:51,100
philosophies at the same
position.
1184
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:53,800
I think it's going to be a good
thing because I think each of
1185
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:57,300
them will push each other and
and grow from from the
1186
01:13:57,300 --> 01:13:59,600
experience that the other brains
I mean, bills God.
1187
01:14:00,500 --> 01:14:06,200
You know, a lot of that NFL type
X's and O's things like that.
1188
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:09,600
And I think JC may have he's got
a lot of that as well, but I
1189
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:10,900
think he's got some of the soft
skills.
1190
01:14:10,900 --> 01:14:14,500
And some of the understanding on
the recruiting Trail and in the
1191
01:14:14,500 --> 01:14:18,100
how the college systems work
that I think Bill can learn a
1192
01:14:18,100 --> 01:14:20,100
lot from.
So I think there's going to be
1193
01:14:20,100 --> 01:14:23,800
that give and take from that
perspective not just the X's and
1194
01:14:23,808 --> 01:14:27,700
O's and scheme and philosophy of
defensive line play that you
1195
01:14:27,700 --> 01:14:30,200
know, is a little bit similar to
a little bit different but it
1196
01:14:30,208 --> 01:14:31,900
sounds like Like they have good
chemistry.
1197
01:14:32,700 --> 01:14:35,200
Oh yeah, I think that's you
know, that healthy dialogue is
1198
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:36,900
going to be a good thing for the
defense of wine.
1199
01:14:38,500 --> 01:14:42,300
Oh absolutely.
And again I think again it's
1200
01:14:42,300 --> 01:14:47,700
having that extra voice in there
and you know to where Daryl had
1201
01:14:47,700 --> 01:14:52,100
played in a lot of built here
like systems so he sort of
1202
01:14:52,100 --> 01:14:55,900
understood what Bill wanted to
do and it was very much Polly Y
1203
01:14:55,900 --> 01:15:01,000
Bar no King long so bad or so
fast was annual Bill wanted to
1204
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:05,500
do, he taught him and if this
cake They have, you know,
1205
01:15:05,500 --> 01:15:08,700
they're not perfect on
philosophy, but they probably
1206
01:15:08,700 --> 01:15:14,100
have enough of over line where,
you know, example this year,
1207
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:18,200
bills working with the ends.
Hey I need you to go work with
1208
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:20,000
George.
Let's work with, you know, the
1209
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:22,000
X's and O's piece.
They see God.
1210
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:25,800
Let me go to your point too.
I think JC with his voice is
1211
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:29,100
going to say sometimes.
Hey, let's, let's look at it
1212
01:15:29,100 --> 01:15:32,100
this way and I think for bills,
probably going to help him grow
1213
01:15:32,100 --> 01:15:36,600
a little bit too.
But again overall that that's a
1214
01:15:36,608 --> 01:15:38,600
good thing.
It's a really good.
1215
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:40,900
Let's talk about this.
Okay, so I'll be we're both
1216
01:15:40,900 --> 01:15:49,000
married to teachers yes.
Okay so let's say A defensive
1217
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:54,500
scheme is like a curriculum.
There are several different ways
1218
01:15:54,500 --> 01:15:58,100
to get to that end game.
There's different philosophies
1219
01:15:58,100 --> 01:16:02,000
or different things right there.
Teachers are constantly learning
1220
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:04,400
different ways to get to the
same end point.
1221
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:08,400
This is the same type of thing
in their endpoint, is more or
1222
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:13,100
less in the same ballpark.
They might have a little bit of
1223
01:16:13,100 --> 01:16:15,500
different way of getting there
and learning different ways to
1224
01:16:15,500 --> 01:16:17,000
get.
There is going to help them
1225
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:23,100
translate that because honestly
much like students not every
1226
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:27,200
Player is going to pick up and
learn in the same way or in the
1227
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:30,900
same fashion and respond to the
same type of criticism or same
1228
01:16:30,900 --> 01:16:33,500
type of critique.
So that's going to be a good
1229
01:16:33,500 --> 01:16:36,500
thing.
Long-term I did like and this
1230
01:16:36,500 --> 01:16:42,000
was kind of a part of levity of
the the interview the question
1231
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:44,600
about where was the first place?
He ate when he got to Blacksburg
1232
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:48,300
or any places that were still
still popular from his Heyday.
1233
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:55,600
He says a coin flip he cases
McAdoo's America dues one when
1234
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:59,200
it got the when he got the I
guess the probably a Hindenburg
1235
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:02,100
where you think, you think you
think he crushes the Hindenburg
1236
01:17:02,700 --> 01:17:05,600
think he could crush Hindenburg.
Maybe someday.
1237
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:09,000
I think I've heard tell that
McAdoo's is a hell of a place
1238
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:11,400
for for recruits.
Oh yes.
1239
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:14,500
It's, you know, be there with
recruits.
1240
01:17:14,500 --> 01:17:16,700
It's awesome.
You meet their courage, their
1241
01:17:16,700 --> 01:17:20,100
you have a sandwich.
You talk about football, you
1242
01:17:20,100 --> 01:17:21,700
know?
Well, you know, that's part of
1243
01:17:21,708 --> 01:17:25,200
it is, the menu is so big that
you literally get your
1244
01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:28,800
recruiting pitch done, but now
the request of screw them in
1245
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:32,300
you.
And then once the pitch is done,
1246
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:36,800
you point them to the best piece
of the menu for that particular
1247
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:39,700
player and then you essentially
get the commit on spot.
1248
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:42,400
Yeah.
I've heard defunct podcast like
1249
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:47,300
to ask for interviews there too.
Not this part.
1250
01:17:49,300 --> 01:17:52,600
Let's do talk about him.
He's obviously got the
1251
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:55,900
recruiting title role and he
kind of was talking about it.
1252
01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:59,400
It's more or less.
He's the guy that's going to be,
1253
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:01,500
we need to look at films on
recruits.
1254
01:18:01,500 --> 01:18:04,900
Have you made the call here?
It sounds like it's more of a,
1255
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:10,700
he's more of a logistical guy.
And again, JC biggest person in
1256
01:18:10,700 --> 01:18:14,600
that room, my assumption is, if
Jesse speaks about have you, you
1257
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:17,500
know, have you looked at tape of
Tom?
1258
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:20,200
I don't know.
Sean Asbury and I know he's like
1259
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:22,600
a top tent here.
Hey Jackie looked at as berries
1260
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:26,300
tape you talk to his trainer,
you talk to anybody on him this
1261
01:18:26,300 --> 01:18:28,900
week.
I mean it seems like it's almost
1262
01:18:28,900 --> 01:18:34,100
that's going to be a checklist
type thing for him like and you
1263
01:18:34,100 --> 01:18:38,300
know some code says yeah I can't
get in touch with anybody will
1264
01:18:38,300 --> 01:18:41,600
hold on.
DM the number over to him?
1265
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:44,800
Call this guy.
Yep, this is it, that type of
1266
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:49,900
thing, make it making sure that,
you know, all right, we got this
1267
01:18:49,900 --> 01:18:52,000
guy coming to campus.
Make sure you're watching his
1268
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:55,200
fucking tape this week, so
you're prepared to discuss this
1269
01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:58,300
that and the third victims.
Make sure that you're reviewing,
1270
01:18:58,700 --> 01:19:02,100
you know, family members this.
So that, you know, names you
1271
01:19:02,100 --> 01:19:04,300
understand the relationships,
you understand who plays a key
1272
01:19:04,300 --> 01:19:10,900
role in this player's life so
that you can relate to them as
1273
01:19:10,900 --> 01:19:13,100
best as you can.
Because I think that's another
1274
01:19:13,100 --> 01:19:19,300
part of it, that You know, the
coaches, obviously, they
1275
01:19:19,300 --> 01:19:20,500
recruit.
They're trying to get the best
1276
01:19:20,500 --> 01:19:22,800
players, but it's about building
relationships.
1277
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:26,100
So if you're not doing the
homework on that, that's going
1278
01:19:26,100 --> 01:19:29,700
to show up when it's time to
kind of close the deal.
1279
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:33,200
Absolutely.
And going back, he had that
1280
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:37,700
personal story.
JC essentially grew up kind of
1281
01:19:37,700 --> 01:19:39,700
out in the rural areas of
Maryland.
1282
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:43,400
Pretty highly recruited player
to a point where Powerhouse
1283
01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:47,200
DeMatha, you know Brian.
You know we heard They wanted to
1284
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:51,700
come, get him his senior year
but the coach that they brought
1285
01:19:51,700 --> 01:19:56,800
into his high school was kind of
a well-known coach winner and he
1286
01:19:56,800 --> 01:20:01,300
convinced him to stay at his
high school, not make the hour,
1287
01:20:01,300 --> 01:20:07,800
commute both ways every day to
go down to a Powerhouse and you
1288
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:11,700
know talk about staying home and
everything but that starts one
1289
01:20:11,700 --> 01:20:15,400
of these three things that I
think he's going to bring it ate
1290
01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:16,900
at selling point, right?
There.
1291
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:20,900
Whatever that coach said to him,
I have a feeling instilled and
1292
01:20:20,900 --> 01:20:23,800
then him about staying home,
doing it at home.
1293
01:20:24,300 --> 01:20:31,100
That's one story but brine the
next one that he revealed me and
1294
01:20:31,100 --> 01:20:33,700
you I think we talked about it,
20 minutes, he revealed.
1295
01:20:33,700 --> 01:20:37,700
His is degrees.
Yep.
1296
01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:42,100
You got the the liberal arts and
science degree which at the time
1297
01:20:42,100 --> 01:20:46,100
he said, was essentially three
minors that add up to a major
1298
01:20:47,100 --> 01:20:49,600
because he wanted.
And he talked about, he because
1299
01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:52,200
he wanted to be a coach.
So this is, this was his ideas
1300
01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:53,500
like very well.
So I want to be a coach.
1301
01:20:53,500 --> 01:20:56,800
So, three minors that can they
can build to a major for me.
1302
01:20:57,300 --> 01:20:59,800
Scioscia sociology, physical
education.
1303
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:03,600
In African-American studies.
And that tells me right there
1304
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:08,800
that this God understands, what
it's going to take to be a coach
1305
01:21:08,900 --> 01:21:11,800
and what it's going to take to
fill in any blind spots that he
1306
01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:17,400
may have and working with
people, that may have different
1307
01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:22,300
life stories or understanding
understanding how they tick, and
1308
01:21:22,300 --> 01:21:25,800
also just the physical education
part of it or just understanding
1309
01:21:26,700 --> 01:21:29,700
how to get guys in their Peak
Performance to go out there.
1310
01:21:29,900 --> 01:21:31,500
On the field and do what they
need to do.
1311
01:21:33,900 --> 01:21:36,400
Absolutely.
And when he when he mentioned
1312
01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:42,400
that about those degrees, it was
just like again, he is from and
1313
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:44,900
I'm not sure if it's world.
But it's not your it's not your
1314
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:49,700
Baltimore propers or, you know,
down into areas like that, he
1315
01:21:49,700 --> 01:21:54,400
had his background and he said,
if I'm going to be a coach, I've
1316
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:57,000
got to understand, I understand
my background.
1317
01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:59,200
I'm going to have people that I
run to their similar to me.
1318
01:21:59,300 --> 01:22:00,600
We're going to connect.
Boom, great.
1319
01:22:01,100 --> 01:22:03,500
I want to understand everyone.
I touch.
1320
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:07,700
Ouch.
And, you know, obviously he knew
1321
01:22:07,700 --> 01:22:13,000
that, you know, the African
American studies, you know, I've
1322
01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:16,700
got African-American teammates.
I want to understand what goes
1323
01:22:16,700 --> 01:22:18,600
on.
I want to know more about them.
1324
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:20,900
I want to be able to connect
with them man.
1325
01:22:20,900 --> 01:22:24,900
That just tells a lot about him
as a human being Brian.
1326
01:22:24,900 --> 01:22:28,000
You know what else tells you a
lot about the human being is
1327
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:30,300
when he discussed the 95 store?
Man?
1328
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:33,000
Yep.
For you.
1329
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:34,300
Younger people.
Go back.
1330
01:22:34,300 --> 01:22:38,500
Look nice.
E5 is a great season. 95 started
1331
01:22:38,500 --> 01:22:46,600
off shitty jib really really
shitty, you know, back-to-back
1332
01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:50,900
losses.
The second being who, you know,
1333
01:22:50,900 --> 01:22:54,400
Cincinnati at Lane stadium.
And you I think I've heard
1334
01:22:54,400 --> 01:22:57,400
stories it was like the pouring
down rain the opening loss was
1335
01:22:57,400 --> 01:23:03,600
to Boston College.
And you know, you kind of hear
1336
01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:07,200
JC talking about it said in the
locker room after the game.
1337
01:23:07,300 --> 01:23:11,400
Gang with just as miserable
feeling and then having to watch
1338
01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:17,000
the tape the next day.
And he didn't say it, but I
1339
01:23:17,008 --> 01:23:20,200
think he didn't say it in the
way.
1340
01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:22,300
Brian.
I think you assume this is what
1341
01:23:22,300 --> 01:23:27,700
he said it, right.
Yeah, I said he said we're not
1342
01:23:27,700 --> 01:23:30,300
losing the end.
I said we fucking losing again.
1343
01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:39,400
Because I mean again JC kind of
reminds me a lot of he kind of
1344
01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:42,400
reminds me a combination of my
offensive line coach and I
1345
01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:46,900
wasn't him and Sydney Keith
conlon and our good buddy
1346
01:23:47,700 --> 01:23:50,300
hambone.
Robbie come tonight if you put
1347
01:23:50,300 --> 01:23:53,400
those two guys together, that
that's who Jason kind of reminds
1348
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:57,400
me of and that's something I
could see them them saying in
1349
01:23:57,400 --> 01:23:59,700
that scenario, like we fucking
losing again.
1350
01:24:00,500 --> 01:24:02,600
Really.
And then not just saying it, not
1351
01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:06,300
just saying it, but putting that
shit into action doubling down
1352
01:24:06,300 --> 01:24:09,600
on studies doubling, down, on
practice doubling down on film.
1353
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:12,500
All of the things you need to do
to have success on the field.
1354
01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:15,500
Yeah.
And obviously, everybody knows
1355
01:24:15,500 --> 01:24:19,600
what happens the next week they
go out, beat Miami.
1356
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:24,700
As the white said last week back
98 when he finished it up. 95
1357
01:24:24,700 --> 01:24:29,700
was the first of four straight
99 made it five straight in.
1358
01:24:30,500 --> 01:24:32,500
Basically, they didn't lose
another game.
1359
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:36,700
It didn't lose another game to
come back at UVA.
1360
01:24:37,100 --> 01:24:42,400
The Sugar Bowl, win over Texas.
It tells you about his mentality
1361
01:24:42,500 --> 01:24:47,400
to and, you know, there's been
times.
1362
01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:51,500
Under this current coaching
regime.
1363
01:24:51,900 --> 01:24:57,500
You know, a lot of times we see
a lot of fight but sometimes You
1364
01:24:57,500 --> 01:25:00,300
just feel like sometimes the
players aren't.
1365
01:25:02,400 --> 01:25:04,700
I don't want to say it because
you see them play their asses
1366
01:25:04,700 --> 01:25:07,400
off, but you feel like sometimes
they just turn it off.
1367
01:25:08,700 --> 01:25:10,700
I don't think they see prices
going to let people in that
1368
01:25:10,700 --> 01:25:14,500
locker room turn and yeah I
don't I don't think it's lack of
1369
01:25:14,500 --> 01:25:15,900
effort.
I think sometimes it's lack of
1370
01:25:15,900 --> 01:25:21,700
focus, like I think they give
effort, I think the focus is
1371
01:25:21,700 --> 01:25:23,900
where we see a lack on some of
those things.
1372
01:25:23,900 --> 01:25:28,400
I think that having a guy that
understands setting a goal
1373
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:36,700
setting the things up to achieve
that goal and holding everyone
1374
01:25:36,700 --> 01:25:41,500
accountable at all.
X towards that, that go
1375
01:25:41,500 --> 01:25:45,900
responsibility, I think is going
to be important for this team
1376
01:25:45,900 --> 01:25:49,900
going forward because I mean,
this is a guy that You know, we
1377
01:25:49,900 --> 01:25:54,200
talked about Virginia Tech but I
mean this this is one of the
1378
01:25:54,200 --> 01:25:57,500
guys that built what Virginia
Tech is and what Virginia Tech
1379
01:25:57,500 --> 01:26:04,200
became and he understands he saw
both sides of it.
1380
01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:08,000
I mean, he saw the downs and he
saw the ups and he saw, you
1381
01:26:08,008 --> 01:26:14,200
know, what we were and what we
became Just In His short time in
1382
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:18,400
Blacksburg.
And I think that that matters
1383
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:21,500
and I think going back to the
point earlier, I think that's
1384
01:26:21,500 --> 01:26:27,400
what that question was trying to
be trying to ask is that, you
1385
01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:33,700
know, are there lessons from
your time as a player here that
1386
01:26:33,700 --> 01:26:37,000
you can bring to the table and
help this team?
1387
01:26:37,100 --> 01:26:39,300
Take the next step.
Yeah.
1388
01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:44,200
And it is he has them.
Braun.
1389
01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:47,100
I'm going to we're going to stop
the Virginia Tech talk there.
1390
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:54,000
Before we wrap the episode up, I
need your 90 second analysis of
1391
01:26:54,000 --> 01:27:02,900
the Carson Wentz trade, I think,
in terms of It being a
1392
01:27:02,900 --> 01:27:08,600
relatively safe, relatively cap
friendly, All Things Considered,
1393
01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:11,800
I think, in terms of being able
to move off of it, if it doesn't
1394
01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:14,500
work out, I think it was a good
trade.
1395
01:27:16,900 --> 01:27:20,500
I would have preferred Stafford.
I probably would have also
1396
01:27:20,500 --> 01:27:27,500
preferred Donald if we could
have got him for a similar.
1397
01:27:29,200 --> 01:27:32,500
Similar trade package and
obviously his the cost would
1398
01:27:32,500 --> 01:27:36,100
have been lower in terms of the
immediate contract.
1399
01:27:36,100 --> 01:27:38,600
So I think if we were to pull
that off, I think I would have
1400
01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:42,100
been fine with it.
I'm still waiting to see on
1401
01:27:42,100 --> 01:27:43,900
whence.
I think if he can stay on the
1402
01:27:43,900 --> 01:27:48,000
field and working with Frank
Reich again.
1403
01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:50,300
I think that's going to be a
good thing for him.
1404
01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:53,600
The problem I have is that I
need to see this guy play more
1405
01:27:53,600 --> 01:27:58,800
than 12 games in the season.
Proof.
1406
01:27:59,500 --> 01:28:02,300
But the Alamos truth is you said
Frank right if there's anyone
1407
01:28:02,300 --> 01:28:04,200
that can fix him.
It's Frank Wright.
1408
01:28:04,700 --> 01:28:11,700
If Frank Wright fixes him?
I hate y'all because if you like
1409
01:28:11,700 --> 01:28:16,100
I said, we did a ton and
contract.
1410
01:28:16,100 --> 01:28:18,800
He's bringing on board is that
if it doesn't work this year and
1411
01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:21,600
next year, we're pretty much off
the hook with no more dead money
1412
01:28:22,100 --> 01:28:29,700
and space handicapped space too.
Because of the luck retirement
1413
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:34,100
Hill Rivers will have one year.
He gets fixed.
1414
01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:36,400
I mean, y'all are essentially
have a 10-year order back.
1415
01:28:36,500 --> 01:28:39,400
Yeah.
And y'all have a front office
1416
01:28:39,400 --> 01:28:43,100
that knows how to draft.
So think we're going to take
1417
01:28:43,100 --> 01:28:45,200
Christian darussalam.
First round if everything works
1418
01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:49,400
out.
The way I'm hoping and aerosol,
1419
01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:52,600
dude, I had that's also mocks.
He's flying up in the top 10
1420
01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:54,500
now.
Yeah, he's anywhere between like
1421
01:28:54,500 --> 01:28:57,300
nine and Twenty Eight, depending
on.
1422
01:28:57,300 --> 01:29:01,000
So mocks depends on how that
thing breaks.
1423
01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:03,600
We've got it.
We could potentially move up
1424
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:06,600
though.
So we've actually got got some
1425
01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:07,900
action where we can move up.
Up.
1426
01:29:07,900 --> 01:29:11,100
So if he's, who we're targeting
or something, if we're
1427
01:29:11,100 --> 01:29:14,000
comfortable with, if we're
comfortable with the first four
1428
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:16,600
or five tackles, then I think
we're fine to sit where we're
1429
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:20,300
at.
Yeah, but if we've got a
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certain, you know, one, two,
three in that top five that we,
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absolutely, if we feel like we
can get him, we're going to try
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to get him then.
I think I can see us moving up
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and making that play, and if all
of them are gone, by the time we
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get around, I could see us
trading back and, you know, make
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getting an To pick in the second
round.
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So absolutely do.
All right.
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