COMM 201: Interpersonal Communication
COMM 201: Interpersonal Communication
Boundary Corner Podcast
COMM 201: Interpersonal Communication

Your boys Curtis and Brian break down the Brad Cornelsen and Justin Hamilton press conference videos so you don't have to. They also talk the big win against NC State by Hokies Wrestling and the Super Bowl victories by former Hokie players and Tampa Bay Buccaneers' coaches Bruce Arians, Cody Grimm, and Nick Rapone.

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Welcome back to the boundary
Corner podcast.

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My name is Curtis Wilson.
I'm Brian sigla is is a Thursday

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night.
Good buddy, what you drinking

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on?
Thirsty.

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Thursday.
Having a little Janessa beer

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watching the snow.
Come down outside schools.

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Closed for the kid in the wife.
Tomorrow I'm working them half a

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day.
Good night to record man.

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Yes it is man.
I've got my hands here.

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We're watching some snow as
well.

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We got about got about an inch
so far.

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It's sticking a little bit.
It's kind of you know everything

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and flowing between big fluffy
flakes and flurries but looks

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like we're going to have a
little bit of fun in the

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Tomorrow, buddy.
You are going to have a little

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fun in the snow tomorrow.
I don't plan on going anywhere.

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I've got ten beers in the
fridge, a couple fifth.

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I want a little drink food for
the fam.

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Although if my wife, you know,
being you know, with child as

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she is, if she said, honey, I
want this from here, I would

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trade my butt out and I'd go get
it because I am a smart man.

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You know when they happening,
you know what's up?

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Hey, what's it?
What's it?

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You know you've been there.
Once it's happened.

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It's like you.
Unlike you know, you know what

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to do.
You don't overthink it.

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You just do it.
I'm sitting here also watching

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Golf out at Pebble Beach.
It looks like it's about 68

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degrees perfect weather.
So I'm also longing for a good

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spring day now.
Like after this I'm done with

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winter.
All right, don't need someone

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more.
Let's get warm you like beIN,

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get out.
I'll be done with you.

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Have my permission to die.
Alright hokey fans, so what

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we'll be talking about tonight.
I biggest thing is we're gonna

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be looking at the red cord
Nielsen and the Justin Hamilton

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press conferences from a couple
days ago, breaking down some

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things, they said some things we
heard.

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We like some things we heard, we
didn't like, A couple shots here

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and there, but before we jump to
that run, run jump to a

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non-football related thing in
Virginia Tech wrestling and that

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epic I mean, epic win versus NC
State man.

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Holy moly epic win.
So I mean that was one of the

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best.
I don't watch wrestling

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normally.
So not that.

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I'm very We familiar with it.
I used to go to a lot of a lot

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of stuff in high school and
things like that, but I it's

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been a long time since I've
watched something like this

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live.
And it was, it was, it was a

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great watch and the back and
forth.

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And then the Epic finish.
I mean, most everybody thought

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it was over and then it wasn't.
And then We pull it out.

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And then I was just like, I was
on the edge of my seat.

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I know that there was someone
else that was calling this, that

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was really, really on the edge
of their seat was, literally and

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figuratively, Rock Harrison,
man.

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First of all, he's a UVA grad,
but a billion kudos to that guy

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a billion.
He kept.

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It engaging, he broke it down,
sort of simplistically for

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folks, like me and you who don't
watch a lot of wrestling.

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And unfortunately, in Kovac
times, probably friends that we

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could have over to watch the
wrestling with us.

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We really can't get together.
It's too tough.

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He made it exciting.
And by the way, He joined

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Twitter this week, I followed
him immediately just and then

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they showed his is it to is it
to isn't to play.

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It was so much energy in, you
know, I think what we just saw

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is for us as very casual fans.
That was a top-10 matchup.

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I think, probably my
expectations now is I look on

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acc Network, Big Ten Network
ESPN.

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If I see like to top 10 teams
going at it and wrestling

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weather associated with the
Hokies are not.

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I think I'll probably stop and
watch for a little while because

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I think, you know, the level of
competition when it's that high,

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it's really good.
Level competition is awesome.

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The passion that they bring to
the table, both from an

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individual perspective, and from
the team perspective, and how

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they were really getting each
other up for, for the, for the

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match at me.
That was just it was awesome to

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watch and like you said, I'm
definitely gonna I see it in

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passing out, at least give it,
you know, 10, 20 minutes of my

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time.
If I've got some time to kill

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there because that was fun to
watch, those are really good

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time.
And after that, when The Hokies

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go from number eight to number
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And you see a lot of when we
watch the Hokies a lot of the

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Hokies guys had pretty high
numbers next to the names.

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So individually they are very
high ranked and my buddy David

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Fuqua who wrestled it along with
his fraternity brother.

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And I'm big Hokies fan.
Ryan, you got to meet him last

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year in Blacksburg He gave me a
little bit of insight and kind

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of the way the way I'm kind of
feeling it is this is the

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potential National Championship
team, not only for individuals

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like Macau was a few years ago,
but all around, it could happen

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because all of these guys has
potential to go far once the

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NCAA tournament happens in St.
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So really big and then tomorrow
night Pitt Panthers number 6.

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Number 16.
Again, kudos to ACC Network

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Friday night wrestling.
Is it six?

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Not eight?
I'll try to put it on for a

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little while, definitely do the
follow-up.

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So hey, Brian.
Guess what?

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What's up, man?
I was right.

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Yeah, you were yeah, youyou got
this one on me.

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My Tom Brady.
He did not come to fruition.

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He got it done along with fellow
Hokies Bruce.

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Arians Cody, Grimm thicker Pony.
I mean, they that really wasn't

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a game.
And all, I mean, it was

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competitive in the first quarter
and then, you know, the couple

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of adjustments defensively that
were made to kind of stop those.

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Those little short drives that
Kansas City was able to have

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just completely took their
offense out of the game and

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let's start there.
You kind of need you tackles to

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have success against a good pass
rush, right?

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You damn you right.
You too?

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Damn right?
It was brutal.

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I mean they took full advantage
of a I end up offensive line,

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you know?
And again it's great having

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three Hokies.
You know, going to have those

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Super Bowl rings especially you
know, it's great for Bruce

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because, you know, Brian Bruce
with your Colts and I think you

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saw that years ago like this
guy's is a damn good head coach.

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He's off in a ring or us of Our
Generation Cody.

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Grooms, one of those Hokies,
man, the best whip you ever

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seen.
And Cody played a few years in

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the league and now Now he is
shining as a coach Nick

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performs, an older Hokie respect
to all of them but now you got

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three rings coming back the
Blacksburg which is awesome.

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Now Ellen before we get into the
press conferences here, guys,

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unfortunately, basketball,
Louisville, game Revenge game,

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postponed due to covid issues.
Obviously, if you hadn't read

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the news, Chris Mack Louisville,
head coach, you know, test

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deposit for Hogue has about four
days ago.

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So essentially he was not going
to be there and it seems like

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your contact tracing.
I don't think Tracy the ugliest

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word currently in the sporting.
Language pretty much bench them

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and I mean bronze just looking
at his phone.

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Right before we got on here, oh
the Hokies are complete another

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home game.
What?

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For like two more weeks?
Yeah, we're still looks like

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February 23rd against Georgia.
Tech is what we're looking at

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now.
So, yeah, we're still two weeks

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away from the Hokies playing
another home game here in terms

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of getting boots back.
And in terms of getting a little

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couple of the guys that have
been banged up back, probably a

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good thing.
But in terms of the riding, the

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wave of consistency that this
team has had and just haven't

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playing out there for the fans.
I mean, that those aspects

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definitely, you know, sup with
all these cancellations no doubt

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it does suck but I do think this
I think, I can't remember who I

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heard mentioned.
I can't represent the radio

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today or when I was watching.
Watching CBS Sports, maybe but

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basically regardless what
happens with the Hokies between

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now and they're in they because
of having such good winds and

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the record there in beating
going to be more of the

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importance of told you Brian my
opinion.

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I don't want to be a three or a
four.

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I feel like when they play teams
of lesser ability It seems like

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we lose our Focus.
I want to be in that 67 ring.

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I want us to have a team across
from us, that we know the name

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on The Jersey and we have to
take extremely serious.

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Yeah, I'm right there with you.
I definitely think having

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opponent that you've got to get
up for we seem to show up and

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show out when when it counts
even more so than when it

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doesn't.
So I would definitely prefer

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that middle too.
You know, back third seating

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some but getting a higher
seeding would be a good Prestige

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pick for the Hokies.
So you know, you kind of way

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that you know what matters, more
do you kind of hedge your bets

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on what you think will be the
best setup or do you kind of

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just want to go for that
Prestige move?

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And have that that lower number
next to your name?

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Yeah, it's a coin flip.
You love The Prestige but Maybe

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it's maroon glasses.
I see this team is a team.

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If it catches fire of all the
teams I've seen this year, I

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have not had my watches watches.
I normally watch this, you know,

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a Playing football season
because I normally watch a lot

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of football.
Anyway, but when you're doing a

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podcast in your up till 2:00
every Saturday night, you kind

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of got to know what mama got to
cut down somewhere.

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So basketball got to cut.
I think that expire I think they

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can beat any team in the country
On Any Given night in any given

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for that's my opinion.
We shall see man.

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We shall see the next next three
weeks or so is going to be some

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some good Conference basketball
then we get to the tournament.

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Yes sir.
We do.

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All right guys, let's jump to it
real quick.

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We're going to start pressors.
We're going to start with the

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Brad cornelison presser first,
and I'm going to just jump right

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into it.
No, the first questions they

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asked him was essentially about
the quarterback room primarily

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about Connor Bloom Erick.
First of all, he is essentially

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everything you heard in that
presser Brian.

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He's essentially the backup
quarterback.

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Yeah, that is seems like, what
is going on here?

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Is that corn likes.
What he sees on practice tape

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for Connor and he's really
trusting Darrell Dicky's

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opinion.
But there'll Dickies, you know,

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that probably should be here.
I don't think we.

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Yeah, Darrell Dickie probably
should have corn job if the

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stars would have aligned the way
we have hoped when we initially

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brought in Justin Fuente.
But that's neither here.

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Nor there we.
This is not about bashing corn

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necessarily.
It's about what was actually

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said in the presser.
So yeah, so Looks like Connor

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Bloomer is going to be the de
facto backup at this point.

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Looks like Knox is going to
potentially compete for that

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role.
Whereas, you know, you got a guy

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like Taj Bullock that's coming
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It's probably going to need at
least one one year seasoning

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before he starts competing for a
too deep at the quarterback

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position.
Yeah, I mean and of course, he's

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gonna have Spring ball and stuff
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He's going through Drew, you
know, he's going through

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workouts right now and they're
seeing more and more of him.

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But Brian, Even though this was
a later on in the press

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conference, not nail its kind of
brass talking out of both sides

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of his mouth because he says,
well, we need a quarterback to

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develop for three years.
First of all, Connor blumrich

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had not been in a quarterback
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Kind of the way it looks kind
of, he'd been between running

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back room too, tight end room
quarterback room.

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Special teams are in all the
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So what you de facto saying and
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if Braxton Burmeister, who is a
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games and run the office.
If he goes down, the guy who's

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been the jack-of-all-trades for
Texas A&M is our backup

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quarterback.
Who probably hasn't played a

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full season in what four years
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Yeah, I mean at this point you
you know, if he's just running,

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Some QB powers and handing the
ball off to Holston or whoever

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the running back is for us, you
know, you feel comfortable with

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him, doing things like that when
it gets into reading coverages

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and making throws on time and
accurately you know you don't

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feel quite as good because you
haven't seen a him do it at a

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power 5 level consistently and
be he's been you know learning

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in rooms that aren't a
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For the last.
What, at least season and a

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half.
Correct.

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Yeah.
At least if not longer because

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he was 17.
Right, restore.

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Yes, Evan.
So, 17, 18, 19, the probably get

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two years then I'll need two
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I'll go to you, he probably
spent a couple years in the QB

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room primarily but obviously
we've telling Mom there, you

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know, tell him I took that job
and he never had a chance to

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sniff it something else.
That, you know, Brad said.

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And kind of again, it's going
against what's happening.

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He prefers to have five
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Well, we have four.
Yep, he said he's good with four

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or five but, you know, at this
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that.
We have to underside of that it.

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And in my opinion for isn't bad.
If you had a situation like we

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had last year for is bad, when
you have a situation like, we

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have rolling into 21 where
you've got Really truly one

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experienced quarterback, one
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That's mostly an athlete that
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the position in the last two
years one that is still coming

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along and one that's a true
freshman.

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Exactly.
And you know, last year we set

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not actually not too long after
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talked about how our quarterback
room was the deepest quarterback

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around the country in which it
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season it was.
Because all three guys at some

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point, I'm playing at a very
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probably among the thinnest.
You know, we have one guy that

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started one.
Guy that's only played.

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What?
What?

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What knocks play quarter and a
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Yeah.
And Plum next week and you know,

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we sit here, you know.
It's just not good and the way

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he made it framed way he framed
it is we're not looking for

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another one which is a massive
mistake.

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I think we could find FCS FBS
G5.

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We could find a better backup
quarterback and carnarvon Rick.

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It's not been in it, not
necessarily better but at least

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one that is had enough reps
recently where if Connor isn't

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what you think he is, you've got
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You know I'm saying that.
That's kind of what bothers me

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more.
It's not so much that Connor

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doesn't have the potential to go
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a backup for Braxton.
It's that we don't know that and

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not knowing that not in not
having a plan B of someone that

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it can at least go out there and
make the throws and and do the

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things that you need to do.
You know, other guys can step up

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the slack for a guy that can at
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but we don't know.
Even if Connor can do all those

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things and I think that's what
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But the other thing that was
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concerning to the the timeline,
the Twitter feed with some of

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the comments about the two of
the quarterbacks that

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transferred out of the program.
Curtis Yep.

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It absolutely was a treat out
there by Norm would that way it

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framed it absolutely sounded
terrible in the way, Brad said

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it.
But you know in reality in

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reality the way he made that
statement it was not as bad as

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it seemed.
It wasn't we literally today me

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and Brian set, while we were
working our normal jobs, we got

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in a got in a Call together and
say, let's play it.

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Let's listen to it and we'll
talk about it.

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Don't like when reporters do
that, because for us,

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unfortunately, we don't get the
live stream because if we got

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the live stream and people like
me, and you are listening, and

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no one would do that.
Sort of bullshit.

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You don't think any of you would
be on that Top Line, saying,

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hey, Norm bullshit dumbass we
could call this out in real

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time, instead of having to, you
know, Fight The Narrative that's

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already in place.
And I'm not saying we're out

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here.
White knighting for Brad core

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Nelson, because we're definitely
Not.

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But what we're saying here is
that the way the comment was

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framed by norm and the narrative
in general, and the sentiment

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among the fan base in general
about Braddock or Nelson, that

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was only going to go badly.
And normal would knew that when

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he, when he tweeted it in such a
way do I think that core Nelson

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did a great job of saying the
words that he needed to say?

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No, you Probably said as few
words to describe, what he was

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trying to get across as
possible, but I don't think he

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was saying, well, we expected to
lose two guys.

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That was always the plan from
Jump Street.

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No, he's essentially saying if
you got three quarterbacks that

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can play football at a pretty
high level, they're all within a

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similar ballpark of each other.
In terms of Eligibility,

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eligibility remaining,
especially the two younger guys,

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and hooker and Quincy.
They're going to want to get on

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the field, and if they don't
have an opportunity to do that

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here, they're going to take that
opportunity to do it somewhere

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else because they're too
talented to not be on the field.

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I don't think he said it as good
as that and I probably have not

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saying it as good as I want to
say it, but it's in the context

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of the actual answer, it sounded
better than we expected to guys

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to transfer.
And then just kind of Yeah, let

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it hang out there in space.
Again, in overall, brand with

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the entire, the entire press
conference.

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No.
Is he the worst ever?

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No.
Is he the best ever know he's

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somewhere in the middle?
Like most people are they, if

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they're going to put him out
there, when we talked about,

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putting them out there, go get.
Go get somebody to help him out

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with go get somebody to help him
out because he needs it.

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Maybe he's a guy that needs to
stand up version sitting down

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who threw that know.
If we say like sitting down,

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maybe core Nelson's a standard.
Who knows?

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He likes to lead on the podium
the leaning on the podium.

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Makes him comfortable.
It's like a security blanket.

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I don't know.
I always like leaning on a

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Podium.
I'm not a sitter.

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You lean on things, you feel
like, you know, you can change

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your position, you can, you
know, move constantly.

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All right.
Well, with all that essentially

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Braxton is the de facto store.
As of today, it's still weird

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that he had to say that since no
other quarterback had started

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games on the roster before then,
but somebody made a point.

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Ron and I want to ask you from
looking at Braxton's, you know,

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games last year.
He talked about, you know, some

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of his throws, he takes stuff
off me and you talking earlier,

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he is got the Oppo of Michael
Vick, where Michael Vick you

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were in a 4-yard hit, you better
be ready because it was going to

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be a rocket coming.
And there are story.

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It not only Michael Vick what
other quarterbacks to about

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breaking guy's fingers because
listen, your own a 4-yard hitch,

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I'm getting it there as quick as
possible.

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Yeah, but practice is a little
different in.

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Can you see that from some of
the stuff we saw last year?

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Yeah.
I think some of that goes into

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thinking too much, you want a
quarterback making reads, but

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you don't want a quarterback
thinking about the throw, he's

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making that that at that point
because between reps and

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everything else, how that throw
comes out, should kind of be

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second nature and it looks like
he's overthinking that aspect of

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his game at this point where and
it may be something to do with

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because he doesn't have the
strongest arm when he can Let it

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Loose.
He's trying to Let it Loose as

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much as he can and then when
when it's not that 20-yard throw

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downfield he's taking a little
bit more off of it then he

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should that's my take on it.
But It definitely is something

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that we saw.
We saw it sometimes when he was

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trying to throw those screens,
just putting way too much loft

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on the ball, some of those
little flares and quick outs too

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much touch to the point where
guys can break on it to the

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point where guys can get in
there and get their hands on the

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ball while it's in flight.
So you don't want that on those

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short passes.
And another thing, Brad talked

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about was getting a little bit
more.

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Bulk on Braxton going to the
season so he's a little bit more

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ready to play a 12 game schedule
compared to only getting a few

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games of action and leaving two
of those with with some degree

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of injury.
Before we jump to the next

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actually topic.
I have a question.

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What was he doing there in the
whole year?

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He didn't play, I sit here and I
heard him say that and I said,

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Ron stop it.
Ron shouldn't have been putting

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on weight and putting on muscle
when he had nothing to do but

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lift put on muscle, put on
weight again.

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It's one of those things where
it's like, you know, kind of

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Wonder was Braxton like
essentially run a scout team in

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that situation.
Even though he couldn't play to

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me.
Some people say, well, that

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makes a lot of sense to me.
It doesn't because he has, no,

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he can't get on the field.
He's trying to scout.

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Team is really good.
Quarterback.

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That's awesome.
But here's the deal.

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You're giving reps to him.
Where Quincy could have been

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getting reps on the scout team
or someone who could have been

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getting reps on the scout team
and been able to go into the

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play.
So I hate that.

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All right Brian, I'm going to
jump to it because I'm hot and

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this is gonna make me hotter.
We talked about the running back

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room in the absurd amount of
running backs.

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We currently have on the roster
and said, well the numbers are

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skewed and we don't want to
recruit that many Brian, stop

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it.
And then ask this question, Then

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why job recruit a minute?
I think there's probably a

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reason behind it, but again,
he's not coached up well enough

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in a press conference to talk
about it but it doesn't make

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sense.
And now you have three guys

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coming in and one of those guys
you know, run Kenji.

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You loved it.
Like it, come in again plane.

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Oh now I'll say this may be at
the end of spring, we lose a lot

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of running backs and we open up
a lot scholarship for the poor

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is.
It's very possible man.

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But you know we're talking about
the running back room.

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I like I like really all three
guys will be brought in but I

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don't other than Kenji.
There was no must have With the

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guys that we already have on the
roster.

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And that's, that's no, not to
chance or Malachi here, but at

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the same time, we already had
eight or nine that we were going

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to be coming coming back with
now, we got three more so

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running back rooms going to be
interesting.

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They expect some attrition,
they're either after spring or

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before the season starts,
because I don't think we're

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going to have that many.
Come the end of summer or end of

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spring.
So that's going to be

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interesting to keep an eye on
the other thing that we're that

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Brad talked about next.
Was obviously the offensive line

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which we've had on some of the
last couple weeks with how thin

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it is.
And he did admit that that we

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are light at the offensive
tackle position in particular

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which I think is something that
we kind of know.

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But interesting enough.
He did say Daryl, Bailey and

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Daniel Miller chick is going to
have a Shot at tackle.

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There I thought it would take
would be more of a guard so

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that'll be interesting to see.
Does that worry?

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You does that worry?
It doesn't say worried me

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because I like this technique so
I think I mean he could he's

446
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,000
going to need some work whereas
I think guard would be more of a

447
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,100
natural.
He'd come in he'd fit after a

448
00:28:19,100 --> 00:28:21,700
year or so he might he might be
pushing for the 2D.

449
00:28:21,700 --> 00:28:25,600
Whereas now he's going to be a
tackle and have to Essentially

450
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:30,800
be a depth pick their because of
all the the depth issues that

451
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,900
we're having the position.
And he talked about another

452
00:28:33,900 --> 00:28:37,600
thing like with false depth and
what he means by that is that

453
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:41,200
there's a bunch of guys that can
cross Play and play a different

454
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,900
position.
So you feel like you have as

455
00:28:43,900 --> 00:28:48,600
long as you've got six or seven
guys as long as three of those

456
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,800
guys can play every position or
most positions that you've got

457
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,100
some built-in.
Flexibility there.

458
00:28:56,100 --> 00:29:01,900
But that's still that's not the
way you want to do it because to

459
00:29:01,900 --> 00:29:05,200
do the old Parable here.
We're robbing Peter to pay Paul.

460
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:10,000
Yeah, because if two new to gets
bang for two games, and you got

461
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:14,300
to pull Rock, Hoffman, or
lettuce, meant to go play left

462
00:29:14,300 --> 00:29:18,200
tackle, we're not deep at guard
anymore.

463
00:29:18,500 --> 00:29:22,100
So you're talking about bringing
someone like Caden more or Jesse

464
00:29:22,100 --> 00:29:28,600
Hanson, and who have really no.
In-game experience and that's

465
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,600
sort of scary the other scary
thing, right?

466
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,700
At least to me it's scary is he
is discussing that Park of

467
00:29:35,700 --> 00:29:38,100
commit.
Could be pushing for too deep.

468
00:29:38,900 --> 00:29:41,700
Yeah.
And I know you do some things

469
00:29:41,700 --> 00:29:47,600
with Parker last year to say his
second season on campus.

470
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:52,100
He's pushing too deep.
Yeah, I would have been, I would

471
00:29:52,100 --> 00:29:56,100
have expected to deep push,
maybe next year, but when you

472
00:29:56,100 --> 00:30:00,300
lose Nestor and you lose Hudson,
you have to start shuffling

473
00:30:00,500 --> 00:30:05,100
pieces around and now, you know,
tackle was going to be thin come

474
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,400
next season anyway.
And then it got immediately thin

475
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,400
this season because of those
transfers.

476
00:30:11,300 --> 00:30:16,200
Yep.
Any sort of did confirm John?

477
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,800
He's going to be the center
Brock going to move to guard.

478
00:30:21,500 --> 00:30:25,100
You know, he wants to get the
five best players on the field.

479
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,400
I mean yeah sure that's a great
philosophy to have.

480
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:35,300
I like that.
But we're still looking at the

481
00:30:35,300 --> 00:30:37,900
depth issues that tackle even if
removing Brock over.

482
00:30:37,900 --> 00:30:42,400
So again I'm not so much
concerned about the first five.

483
00:30:42,900 --> 00:30:45,900
I think we're not quite as good
as last year, but I think we're

484
00:30:45,900 --> 00:30:51,400
still in the ballpark.
It's the next three that scare

485
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,000
me.
Because last year, the next

486
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,500
three were guys that have
started a ton of games or guys

487
00:30:58,500 --> 00:31:02,300
that were either redshirt
freshman or Redshirt sophomore.

488
00:31:02,300 --> 00:31:04,800
Is it already had significant
amount of playing time their

489
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,100
first year on campus, or their
second year on campus?

490
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,000
Abso-freakin'-lutely man.
All right, let's jump over to

491
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,500
guys on the outside, looking at
the wide receiver room.

492
00:31:15,500 --> 00:31:18,800
Great news, about Jaden peyote
should be able to practice some

493
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,100
in the spring and then be a full
go in the fall.

494
00:31:22,500 --> 00:31:26,300
We mentioned it last year that
he was going to probably be a

495
00:31:26,300 --> 00:31:29,600
huge piece of what we were going
to do offensive ly with his

496
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,600
speed.
So, you know, knowing that he's

497
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,300
going to be coming back as
great.

498
00:31:35,700 --> 00:31:38,900
Let's hope all heals.
Well, Well and he's getting

499
00:31:38,900 --> 00:31:43,900
weeds there because the honest
truth is, look at how we're

500
00:31:43,900 --> 00:31:48,400
built this year offensively.
He's gonna you know, mind you

501
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,400
mentioned it to me and so I'll
say it.

502
00:31:50,500 --> 00:31:53,400
He's got to be he's got to be a
big-time contributor whether

503
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,200
it's essentially opening up the
game or catching balls.

504
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:02,000
Yeah I mean if he's not either
coming in and grabbing the slot

505
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:07,100
position or being the primary
one of the primary first guys in

506
00:32:07,100 --> 00:32:09,800
the rotation.
Ation to come in for tray or Tay

507
00:32:10,300 --> 00:32:12,800
where he can help take the top
off of a defense.

508
00:32:14,300 --> 00:32:16,700
That's going to be a big problem
because we don't really have

509
00:32:16,700 --> 00:32:19,700
that guy in terms of a guy
that's been on campus for

510
00:32:19,700 --> 00:32:25,000
multiple cycles of this point.
We got a couple guys coming to

511
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:29,600
may have that capability but
he's really the guy with that

512
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,800
Elite level speed that has that
capability to take the top off a

513
00:32:33,808 --> 00:32:35,400
defense.
So getting him as a key

514
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,900
contributor will help a lot.
Because one of the things

515
00:32:38,900 --> 00:32:41,700
missing from our passing game
last year, was any sort of deep

516
00:32:41,700 --> 00:32:43,400
threat?
Yeah.

517
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,600
Absolutely.
Yeah, I did we didn't test

518
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:51,100
people down the field enough and
that hampered what potentially

519
00:32:51,100 --> 00:32:54,200
could have been an all-time
great running game and just made

520
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:59,100
it a damn good running game day.
And right on that.

521
00:32:59,300 --> 00:33:03,000
Now, something I was kind of
shocked about was his praise of

522
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:07,300
Dwayne often in Jalen Jones.
Praise to a point.

523
00:33:07,300 --> 00:33:11,100
When I, when I when I heard
about that are you kind of

524
00:33:11,100 --> 00:33:14,100
called my ear like, okay, we're
going to have to try, you know,

525
00:33:14,100 --> 00:33:15,500
Ray.
Ensure torturing me true

526
00:33:15,500 --> 00:33:19,800
freshman getting potentially a
lot of snaps you know you had

527
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:24,200
Evan fairs transfer out you know
they eventually convinced Chang

528
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:25,800
the hives to hang on another
year.

529
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,200
And we saw Chang in that last
game.

530
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,900
Catch them so much low
intermediate routes to

531
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,400
essentially relieve the pressure
of that.

532
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,600
But when you hear them talk
about, those two guys, I know

533
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:44,000
you're, you really like Jalen
Jones and then you know, Dwayne

534
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,900
kind of grew on and then you saw
the Wayne this year and some of

535
00:33:46,908 --> 00:33:51,300
this tape and all his accolades
and you got to say, okay, we

536
00:33:51,300 --> 00:33:52,800
might have got me Real Deals
here.

537
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,800
Yeah, to Real Deals that I think
the wide receiver room is going

538
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,800
to be the most interesting one
to watch at least on the

539
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,900
offensive side of the ball.
Going into next year because I

540
00:34:01,900 --> 00:34:04,900
feel like from a running back
perspective, unless something

541
00:34:04,900 --> 00:34:07,900
changes and we bring in another
running back.

542
00:34:10,100 --> 00:34:12,900
If everything stays at it is, I
feel like the first first kind

543
00:34:12,900 --> 00:34:16,100
of three or kind of set, and
then the question marks are

544
00:34:16,100 --> 00:34:19,199
after that, with the wide
receiver because a, we need more

545
00:34:19,199 --> 00:34:21,400
of them because you, with
running back, you generally only

546
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,400
have one of the feel of the time
when I receive you got 2, plus,

547
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,600
most in most cases, it's going
to be interesting to see who

548
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:33,400
really steps up behind tray and
Tay this year is that going to

549
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,199
be pay?
You, is that going to be Lofton

550
00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:38,000
or Jones?
Is that going to be Tyree

551
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,900
Saunders?
Is that going to be changa

552
00:34:39,900 --> 00:34:42,500
Hodge?
Is that going to be a guy?

553
00:34:43,500 --> 00:34:46,199
Raheem Blackshear that moves
into more of a slot role,

554
00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:49,500
consistently versus being a
number two, running back or a

555
00:34:49,500 --> 00:34:52,900
spell back in the back field
which would also help with some

556
00:34:52,900 --> 00:34:55,100
of the Log Jam.
We have at that position so

557
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,100
there's the wide receiver room
is going to be really

558
00:34:58,100 --> 00:35:00,500
interesting to watch.
That's why I'm glad we actually

559
00:35:00,500 --> 00:35:04,200
are getting a spraying because I
can at least get an idea of what

560
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,900
that is going to look like a
little bit better because last

561
00:35:07,900 --> 00:35:11,600
year, it was very much of an
unknown and it didn't work in

562
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,000
our favor and I feel like Having
the spring and getting some of

563
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,400
these guys in and seeing what a
Tyree Saunders can do and seeing

564
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:22,100
what some of these true freshman
guys, coming in can do that,

565
00:35:22,100 --> 00:35:24,300
that's going to be good for us
heading into the season and

566
00:35:24,300 --> 00:35:26,300
already having an idea of their
capabilities.

567
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:28,800
Yep.
That this spring this year is

568
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,000
going to be big and having James
Mitchell back not only for the

569
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,000
spring, but next fall is
absolutely huge.

570
00:35:35,300 --> 00:35:37,400
But the one thing I found weird
today.

571
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:42,100
Brian was essentially the
offensive coordinator Virginia

572
00:35:42,100 --> 00:35:44,300
Tech.
It had no conversation with them

573
00:35:44,300 --> 00:35:48,600
about this.
And I mean he mentioned coach

574
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,800
Fuente did and some other people
did but he didn't.

575
00:35:52,300 --> 00:35:55,200
Yeah you said he said he talked
to Coach Fuente and Coach Shah

576
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:59,200
best and did not have a
conversation with the offensive

577
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:03,000
coordinator.
Which I mean, I mean, not

578
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,400
completely off off-kilter there
but just something doesn't smell

579
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:13,200
right about that.
For a, in my opinion the best

580
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:18,300
all-around player on your
offense between what he does

581
00:36:18,300 --> 00:36:22,200
blocking what he does, receiving
all of that, what he does in the

582
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:26,200
even in the Jet Sweep game.
I mean, there's so many aspects

583
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:30,300
that Mitchell plays for this
offense, you would think that

584
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,900
the offensive coordinator would
have some discussion about

585
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,100
whether or not he returns to
Virginia Tech for another

586
00:36:37,100 --> 00:36:39,600
season.
Absolutely.

587
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:43,600
That's just me.
Yeah, and me and Brian discussed

588
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:49,900
about having James Mitchell,
that guy should be every single

589
00:36:49,900 --> 00:36:55,500
position on the field numerous
times again and something that I

590
00:36:55,508 --> 00:36:57,700
want to say it.
Kind of grinded bronze gears a

591
00:36:57,707 --> 00:37:01,000
little bit was talking about
you.

592
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:07,800
Come on baby you go look yeah.
So we'll get to it more when we

593
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,000
get to the sum of the Compressor
details.

594
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:15,300
But the beef that I have, and
the vibe that I get, and just

595
00:37:15,300 --> 00:37:19,700
watching the pressure in the
juxtaposition between the two J

596
00:37:19,700 --> 00:37:24,700
Hamm, understands editing J Hamm
understands re-engineering J,

597
00:37:24,700 --> 00:37:27,800
Hamm understands.
If something's not working, we

598
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,700
need to take a look at it,
evaluate it, cut it, if

599
00:37:31,700 --> 00:37:36,600
necessary, re-engineered if
necessary, and keep it moving,

600
00:37:37,100 --> 00:37:41,000
and I feel like with Cornell, In
it's very much a you know we do

601
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:47,600
we do type philosophy to the
offense, which if he was a high

602
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:52,500
school football coach that's
fine but he's not, you

603
00:37:52,500 --> 00:37:57,700
definitely need to figure out.
In my opinion, a good offensive

604
00:37:57,700 --> 00:38:00,300
coordinator of the college
football level does a good job

605
00:38:00,300 --> 00:38:03,500
of getting the ball in his play
makers hands any way possible

606
00:38:03,500 --> 00:38:07,300
and letting them make the plays,
It's not us, it's not a system

607
00:38:07,300 --> 00:38:08,700
thing.
It's a guy.

608
00:38:08,900 --> 00:38:12,300
It's an idea of making letting
your Playmakers, do what they do

609
00:38:12,300 --> 00:38:14,500
best.
Absolutely.

610
00:38:14,500 --> 00:38:18,500
And a guy like James Mitchell,
you should want him to at least

611
00:38:18,500 --> 00:38:21,900
see 10 to 15 targets again and
it was not that way.

612
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,400
All right so let's turn off the
corn.

613
00:38:25,100 --> 00:38:29,000
We don't again we don't hate
them completely you're just very

614
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,300
critical of him.
Alright the next guy when he

615
00:38:32,300 --> 00:38:36,400
came on the mic it was just
different and You know, the

616
00:38:36,408 --> 00:38:40,300
first thing he touched on was
Jack's promotion and JC Brian

617
00:38:41,100 --> 00:38:46,000
and you know, obviously he's got
the relationship with JC case.

618
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:50,300
It was a g when he you know, was
a player.

619
00:38:51,100 --> 00:38:53,300
And he essentially mentioned it
several times about being part

620
00:38:53,300 --> 00:38:59,300
of the Brotherhood in.
He talks about, you know, Kappa

621
00:38:59,300 --> 00:39:05,800
leaving the great person once in
a lifetime person, and You know,

622
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,800
when you have to replace
somebody like that JC start

623
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,000
checking the boxes and JC.
Check them all.

624
00:39:11,900 --> 00:39:14,100
Yep he checked a lot of the
boxes you know he's talking

625
00:39:14,100 --> 00:39:17,800
about tap as an individual
cannot be replaced but tap in

626
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:23,200
terms of the work he did.
JC checks, a lot of those boxes,

627
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:28,600
JC checks, you know, the various
things that tap kind of was, you

628
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:32,800
know, you would say it were
positive attributes or tap JC

629
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,500
kind of kind of fills that role
as well.

630
00:39:34,500 --> 00:39:38,300
So it was good to hear him.
Say that talk about that but

631
00:39:38,300 --> 00:39:41,000
also talked about, you know,
Taps going to be missed here.

632
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:45,800
Great encourager of people, both
players and coaches and people

633
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:50,100
did anyone that he was around,
so losing that type of energy in

634
00:39:50,100 --> 00:39:54,200
that type of Person is going to
definitely be a big blow so I

635
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,400
was glad to hear him talk about
that but also glad to hear that

636
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,700
he's got the utmost confidence
in what JC brings to the table.

637
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,400
Absolutely.
And then essentially probably

638
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:08,100
got we feel like you know tap
brought in he spoke very highly

639
00:40:08,100 --> 00:40:10,400
of Jordan Williams, you know
talking about coming from the

640
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,500
Clemson program if you know,
winning down there.

641
00:40:13,500 --> 00:40:18,100
But kind of way I kind of felt
that in this is gonna sound

642
00:40:18,100 --> 00:40:21,400
funny because it's, he's walking
in seems like the way he feels.

643
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,400
It's, Jordan Williams has walked
into that offensive line room

644
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:28,600
and his essentially I don't
know, like got everybody

645
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,700
together and say, listen, I know
what it takes to win.

646
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,700
Follow me.
And it seems like just the hams,

647
00:40:35,700 --> 00:40:40,200
like, the guys are buying quick
that he's the anchor down in the

648
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,300
middle of that line and he's the
guy that they're going to be

649
00:40:43,300 --> 00:40:46,400
leaning on.
Well, you immediately talk

650
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:51,000
about, you know, a plug and play
in terms of probably leadership

651
00:40:51,100 --> 00:40:54,200
relative to what we lost with a
Jerrod Hewitt.

652
00:40:54,700 --> 00:40:59,800
But in terms of both, Eyes and
I'd say, at least, you know,

653
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:03,800
upper in capability I think I
think you seen an upgrade at

654
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,600
that so that's going to be big
but what JM talk to you more

655
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,400
about is his work ethic and what
he's already shown in a short

656
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:13,500
time on on campus and also just
the idea of having that veteran

657
00:41:13,500 --> 00:41:17,300
presence to be the leadership
and leader on that unit and

658
00:41:17,300 --> 00:41:19,700
leader in the in the locker room
and at least on the defensive

659
00:41:19,700 --> 00:41:25,600
side of the ball in particular.
absolutely, and again, run,

660
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:31,600
you've mentioned it several
times about how Jordan Williams,

661
00:41:32,100 --> 00:41:35,500
what we're doing on defense, he
is the prototypical defensive

662
00:41:35,500 --> 00:41:41,100
tackle and you talked about
having that with the work ethic

663
00:41:41,100 --> 00:41:44,600
with the veteran leadership you
know essentially you're catching

664
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,800
Aces on everything awesome.
He also did a quick mention of a

665
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,800
lie you know mentioned how a guy
like him playing in the SEC.

666
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:58,300
Getting That many starts in the
SEC playing to that level in the

667
00:41:58,300 --> 00:42:00,600
SEC.
Having those sort of Statistics,

668
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:05,400
big thing, obviously, cap put us
on him again.

669
00:42:05,700 --> 00:42:12,100
So it's losing Darryl but, you
know, it's one of those things

670
00:42:12,100 --> 00:42:14,400
where you almost feel like we
lost Divine Diablo.

671
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:20,100
I know he's not built like about
But you almost feel like there's

672
00:42:20,100 --> 00:42:24,500
a little bit of a buffer, right?
It will lose them Divine not

673
00:42:24,500 --> 00:42:28,100
going way down.
We're only going maybe one or

674
00:42:28,107 --> 00:42:32,300
two rungs down maybe in the
spring taking get up to that

675
00:42:32,300 --> 00:42:33,900
level.
Yeah.

676
00:42:33,900 --> 00:42:36,500
If he brings like you know
there's a thing to be said of

677
00:42:36,500 --> 00:42:41,400
parallel, skill sets where you
get the same overall return,

678
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,800
even though they're, you know,
they're different type of

679
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:44,900
skills, you know what I'm
saying?

680
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,800
So, There's the potential there.
If you take those steps in the

681
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:54,200
spring and in the offseason, you
know, that he can get Parallel

682
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,600
level production, even if you're
not getting the same type of

683
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:03,200
play that you got with with
Devon Diablo, Now he did also

684
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,700
talked about, there was a
question about spring practice.

685
00:43:06,700 --> 00:43:08,800
What's the plan?
What's the focus?

686
00:43:09,300 --> 00:43:13,600
And this is where we were
talking about earlier about the

687
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:19,400
we do we do this is where the
good stuff took place and this

688
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:23,600
this had me roped in the big
thing.

689
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:27,500
He said, you don't throw
everything out.

690
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,000
But you don't carry everything
over.

691
00:43:30,900 --> 00:43:33,700
Yes, sir.
That was he said that at open my

692
00:43:33,700 --> 00:43:36,700
eyes like this.
Oh guys, like wow.

693
00:43:38,900 --> 00:43:41,800
And again, I like I said, I
juxtapose that against the, the

694
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,700
we do what we do mentality with
offense and I know offense is

695
00:43:44,700 --> 00:43:49,500
different than defense, but I
like seeing folks that are

696
00:43:49,500 --> 00:43:54,400
willing to evaluate themselves
and and like I said earlier,

697
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:58,300
throw out what's not working
re-engineers, some stuff that's

698
00:43:58,300 --> 00:44:02,500
kind of working but not to where
you want it to be and then keep

699
00:44:02,500 --> 00:44:04,400
plugging away at the stuff that
looks good.

700
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,800
And he talked about, you know,
some of the things Concepts on

701
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,700
defense is going to be addition
by subtraction simplifying, the

702
00:44:11,700 --> 00:44:16,700
things unifying Concepts and
making sure that the language

703
00:44:16,700 --> 00:44:20,100
that each coach is speaking to
these kids is Unified across.

704
00:44:20,100 --> 00:44:22,100
All of them.
Were they say this it means the

705
00:44:22,100 --> 00:44:26,400
same thing when JC says it, or
whether Ryan Smith says that

706
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:30,200
her, whether J Hamm says that no
matter who is saying it, it's

707
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,900
ringing true in the same way.
It doesn't mean something

708
00:44:32,900 --> 00:44:37,600
different depending on what
You're talking to the other big

709
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,400
piece about this Braun and you
know, you talked about all that

710
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:41,800
but the last piece he hit on
that.

711
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:46,100
And again if you hit me, right?
The staff now knows the kids

712
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:49,600
they didn't get spring last
year, know the kids.

713
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,700
And as we mentioned in the back
towards the back, end of the

714
00:44:51,700 --> 00:44:54,400
schedule, you started seeing
that defense come together deck

715
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,600
set it.
But they know the kids, they

716
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,200
know their limitations, you know
what they do?

717
00:44:58,200 --> 00:44:59,800
Well they don't they don't do
good.

718
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,800
They know what type of
situations to put them in which

719
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:08,400
tells me a Pam knows I've got to
learn my players again.

720
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:09,800
It goes back to that.
Same thing.

721
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:14,400
Don't try to force a square peg
in a round hole.

722
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,500
If it doesn't fit, the guy can't
do that, don't make him go do

723
00:45:17,500 --> 00:45:23,500
that and I love it.
Now, speaking of a guy, what you

724
00:45:23,508 --> 00:45:27,000
can make him do what you can't
make them do is Devon Taylor um

725
00:45:27,100 --> 00:45:29,200
you know, he's going to start
out where he finished last year

726
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:33,400
at safety, but the 190 called my
ear was hand mentioned that he

727
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,300
is a defense.
Of back.

728
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,000
I was gonna say yeah I mean he's
a defensive back, he's talked

729
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,400
about, you know, he's going to
start, where he, where he

730
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,500
finished at safety, could be
moving to Corner.

731
00:45:45,300 --> 00:45:47,600
Could be attached to some of the
other positions that are more

732
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:53,600
hybrid but they want to get him
in the in the spot where they

733
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:55,700
can evaluate him because they
didn't get that chance.

734
00:45:55,700 --> 00:45:58,100
Last year.
He came in.

735
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:02,100
So laid the process.
We were so needy at a position

736
00:46:03,500 --> 00:46:09,400
that Got thrown out there and in
a lot of cases in a very sink or

737
00:46:09,408 --> 00:46:14,400
swim type thing and sometimes he
swam and sometimes he sunk, I

738
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,500
think one thing they're going to
need to work with him big time

739
00:46:16,500 --> 00:46:22,700
on in the offseason is going to
be tackling and especially if

740
00:46:22,700 --> 00:46:23,600
they're going to keep them at
save you.

741
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:28,600
They definitely need to work
with them on tackling but you

742
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,100
know, you saw flashes and I
think if they can get some

743
00:46:31,100 --> 00:46:34,500
consistency to that after they
get that eval period.

744
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:38,500
And then he could be a big
player for us or at least the

745
00:46:38,500 --> 00:46:42,000
player we need him to be.
Yeah, we talked about there were

746
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,100
times last year.
A lot of times, he was just in

747
00:46:44,100 --> 00:46:47,200
the right spot at the right
time, which tells you, he's a

748
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,700
heady player, The Tackle and
thing, I know, it does worry

749
00:46:50,700 --> 00:46:56,100
Brian, but let me ask this how
many times or think about Devon

750
00:46:56,100 --> 00:46:58,400
Taylor?
He hadn't played what since

751
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:05,000
November of 2019 He didn't get a
spring.

752
00:47:05,900 --> 00:47:08,800
He showed up, basically fall
Camp was over.

753
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:14,000
So do you, do you think going
almost nine months without

754
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,800
hitting, anybody could that have
affected him and lowered it

755
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:19,100
down?
Or is it one of those things

756
00:47:19,100 --> 00:47:22,000
where after the first few hits
you should have been in there?

757
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,700
It could be man because we're
talking about all of those

758
00:47:25,700 --> 00:47:29,000
factors and making a jump in
terms of competition level.

759
00:47:29,500 --> 00:47:33,200
So there's there's two factors
there, it's not just you did.

760
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:34,900
I have this stuff.
It's like you didn't have this

761
00:47:34,900 --> 00:47:37,800
stuff and all of a sudden the
competition level is jumping up

762
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:41,400
so it's going to be very similar
to some of these high school

763
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,800
kids that are coming in that
potentially could have been

764
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,100
impact players is true freshman
if they haven't played in a

765
00:47:47,100 --> 00:47:54,500
fucking year, so the opportunity
is still there, but it's less

766
00:47:54,500 --> 00:47:56,900
likely than it was before,
because they're not only making

767
00:47:56,900 --> 00:48:00,000
that that big jump, but they
haven't had the offseason stuff

768
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:05,400
that they're used to absolutely.
Now the next I talked about was

769
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,800
Dax and whether you love or hate
Dax and I feel like with Hokie

770
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,300
Nation there is no middle ground
with him.

771
00:48:11,300 --> 00:48:15,100
There are people that love them,
they love the enthusiasm and

772
00:48:15,100 --> 00:48:18,200
then there are people that hate
anything, he does, you know, he

773
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:22,500
could, he could do the game
ceiling intercept when and well,

774
00:48:22,500 --> 00:48:26,100
he could have taken it upfield,
Jesus cries.

775
00:48:26,100 --> 00:48:29,500
Okay.
But the one thing he said about

776
00:48:29,500 --> 00:48:32,300
the accident made sense, that
was a super highly rated player.

777
00:48:32,300 --> 00:48:34,800
Dax was recruited by.
Everybody in the country.

778
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,900
So he really talked about how he
had the expectation.

779
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,200
The day he stepped foot on
campus.

780
00:48:40,700 --> 00:48:44,400
There was no, you know, you have
to earn it while you're there

781
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,600
was there was no easing in and
because of a lot of the things

782
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:52,400
that he walked into, he got
thrown into the fire quick to.

783
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:57,200
So, he's always been since he's
been on campus, he's been in

784
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:01,100
front of us.
And I think it's it's hard to

785
00:49:01,100 --> 00:49:05,100
grow when everybody's watching,
absolutely.

786
00:49:06,100 --> 00:49:08,800
So I think there's some of that
attach to that.

787
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,300
There's some of the fact that he
probably should be playing Mike

788
00:49:11,300 --> 00:49:14,800
and not backer attached to some
of the sentiments that a lot of

789
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:19,900
us have about his play.
And I think one of the things

790
00:49:19,900 --> 00:49:23,200
the J Hamm talked about a lot
during this and about Dax in

791
00:49:23,207 --> 00:49:26,300
particular is you know that he
likes to learn it, he likes to

792
00:49:26,300 --> 00:49:28,500
pick things up and figure it
out.

793
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,300
Out and he's not just learning
one position.

794
00:49:31,300 --> 00:49:34,700
He's learning pretty much every
position on the defense, what

795
00:49:34,700 --> 00:49:36,100
they're doing, how they're doing
it.

796
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,300
So that means he's got the
ability upstairs to get guys

797
00:49:39,300 --> 00:49:41,800
where they need to be at the mic
position.

798
00:49:42,300 --> 00:49:45,500
You know, the big thing for me
is going to be, I think he's got

799
00:49:45,500 --> 00:49:49,100
all the ability in the world.
I think from a athletic

800
00:49:49,100 --> 00:49:52,300
perspective while he wasn't
athletic as we would like to be

801
00:49:52,300 --> 00:49:56,400
at backer, he's probably
actually a slight step up at

802
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,500
Mike compared to what we were
getting with rook in terms.

803
00:49:58,700 --> 00:50:01,900
Athleticism.
So if he can get some of the

804
00:50:01,900 --> 00:50:04,300
other things that he has
struggled with, which is

805
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:08,100
tackling, which is shedding
blockers, if he can get really

806
00:50:08,100 --> 00:50:11,300
good at those things in the
offseason, or at least better

807
00:50:11,300 --> 00:50:14,400
than he has been.
That's going to be a pretty big

808
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,500
jump for him in terms of what he
does on the field, I think

809
00:50:17,500 --> 00:50:19,900
personally.
So again, I haven't been very

810
00:50:19,900 --> 00:50:23,200
high on Dax, especially if you
could go back and listen some of

811
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:25,300
the podcast, especially
beginning of the season last

812
00:50:25,300 --> 00:50:28,500
year, but he came along as the
season went on.

813
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,400
On.
And I think that the move to

814
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:36,200
Mike is going to help him.
Absolutely, next thing that

815
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:40,500
coach am hit on, was just
defensive line in general, you

816
00:50:40,500 --> 00:50:45,000
know, Deshawn Crawford manual.
Belmar coming back, big veterans

817
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:49,200
on the team, you know, having
that sort of leadership on your

818
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,900
line along with the Jordan
Williams, you know, that

819
00:50:51,900 --> 00:50:54,500
defensive line where last year,
Brian me and you were looking

820
00:50:54,500 --> 00:50:58,500
like we're kind of thin.
We're not this year.

821
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:02,400
No we're going to be.
It's going to almost be to a

822
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:06,100
point like it was on the
offensive line last year.

823
00:51:06,100 --> 00:51:09,500
We're looking, it's like you've
got fuga.

824
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,500
You've got Williams, you've got
Crawford, you got Bellmore, you

825
00:51:13,500 --> 00:51:18,400
got bar know, you got garbage
coming back, you got a leak

826
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:23,200
Kendricks, that's 8 right there
and I'm missing defensive ends,

827
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:29,300
I know, You got Wooten in the
alley Bryant, you got I mean you

828
00:51:29,300 --> 00:51:32,100
got the guys coming in.
So I mean there's gonna be a lot

829
00:51:32,100 --> 00:51:34,800
of potential for the defensive
line, especially this year.

830
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:38,100
I think we're good, depth wise,
I think in a year or two, we're

831
00:51:38,100 --> 00:51:41,300
going to need a lot more
defensive tackles coming in, but

832
00:51:41,300 --> 00:51:44,800
for 2021, we're looking pretty
good across the whole defensive

833
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,800
line.
So I mean, I really looking

834
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:51,300
forward to what this unit can
do, especially, with the way

835
00:51:51,300 --> 00:51:51,900
Barn.
Okay?

836
00:51:51,900 --> 00:51:55,900
Mon You know, I think the thing
j Hamm was talking about most is

837
00:51:55,900 --> 00:51:59,400
that you had a good year.
You progress significantly

838
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:03,700
within a short period of time.
Don't stop getting better just

839
00:52:03,700 --> 00:52:06,900
because you're at good.
Don't stop just because you're

840
00:52:06,900 --> 00:52:09,900
good keep going.
Keep working hard, keep doing

841
00:52:09,900 --> 00:52:14,200
the little things.
Yeah, keep going a little

842
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,900
things.
He also talked about somebody

843
00:52:16,900 --> 00:52:19,900
asked about playing wait and he
said he's going to let the

844
00:52:19,900 --> 00:52:23,800
essentially strength F to
determine that it because he's I

845
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,100
like the way he said it.
I don't need a certain him to

846
00:52:26,100 --> 00:52:29,400
play at a certain number.
He's like he needs to get to a

847
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,400
weight where he can still.
It's almost like he can be

848
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,900
functional, he can do what he
does best but it doesn't stress

849
00:52:34,900 --> 00:52:36,900
him.
It doesn't hurt him.

850
00:52:37,300 --> 00:52:40,000
Essentially don't put weight,
just put weight on if you play

851
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,900
ungodly at 2:40.
Play it 240.

852
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,700
That's your weight and it's one
of those things where I know you

853
00:52:47,700 --> 00:52:52,000
can attest to it.
Robert Malthus everybody in the

854
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,600
National Football League said,
Robert Malthus is too strong or

855
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:57,300
too.
Small to play defensive end at

856
00:52:57,300 --> 00:53:02,000
235 pounds.
No, you are correct incorrect,

857
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,700
but I like the wait for me, I'm
saying that because I think for

858
00:53:05,700 --> 00:53:09,600
his players, you get to a good
way, you know, coach.

859
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:13,700
I'm 245 how you feeling feeling
good play?

860
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:18,500
Because your 245, and you go out
there and ball at tapes going to

861
00:53:18,500 --> 00:53:20,600
show you're going.
To make it somewhere.

862
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:24,100
The last couple pieces.
He hit Brian was kind of more

863
00:53:24,100 --> 00:53:27,800
about JC and somebody asked
about the Deep connections with

864
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:31,400
it.
And, you know, essentially back

865
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:36,100
2012, 2013 and he want to start
visiting other coaches and

866
00:53:36,100 --> 00:53:37,800
learn.
And JC was one of the first

867
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:41,400
class he reached up to it
Marshall, you know.

868
00:53:42,300 --> 00:53:44,800
And again, I think it's the
Hokey Brotherhood that you hear.

869
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:54,000
So many of these guys talk about
and Inhaling that he mentioned

870
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:58,700
talking about essentially press
this upon his like he's going to

871
00:53:58,700 --> 00:54:02,700
press this upon his kids.
Make your connections because in

872
00:54:02,700 --> 00:54:07,600
a few years and older guy could
be asking you for a job or you

873
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:09,600
could be asking a younger guy
for a job.

874
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,600
That's essentially how JC
happened because the JC's

875
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:16,300
connections with ham and going
up to Marshall visiting with

876
00:54:16,300 --> 00:54:18,300
them.
JC introduced me to circles and

877
00:54:18,300 --> 00:54:21,900
then Marshall coming down.
And Virginia Tech coach went

878
00:54:21,900 --> 00:54:25,800
ahead invited them and JC,
always there always connecting

879
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:31,200
with them.
And you feel like that, you

880
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:35,700
know, there's a mesh that he
even he even mentioned talking

881
00:54:35,700 --> 00:54:37,900
about built are in the cabinet,
you know, having the line and

882
00:54:37,900 --> 00:54:43,900
everything he found this perfect
little piece and it fit right

883
00:54:43,900 --> 00:54:45,000
in.
He's a hokey.

884
00:54:46,100 --> 00:54:50,400
He's one of the all-time guys is
a guy that's busted his ass to

885
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:58,800
get where he is and now he gets
to come home and, you know, it's

886
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,900
a pretty cool story.
I hope they can write a hell of

887
00:55:01,900 --> 00:55:05,500
a chapter this year.
Yeah, it's going to be, it's

888
00:55:05,500 --> 00:55:08,200
going to be pretty big seeing
what he's able to do in this

889
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:11,200
system and how he can kind of
step into that tap role and

890
00:55:11,207 --> 00:55:15,300
maybe even in some areas, be
kind of a plus in that role.

891
00:55:15,900 --> 00:55:17,500
Compared to what we were getting
with tap there.

892
00:55:17,500 --> 00:55:21,400
So I'm looking forward to seeing
that I love with Jay Han was

893
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,800
talking about about you know
understanding the importance of

894
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:27,100
those connections and engaging
with others and how that can you

895
00:55:27,100 --> 00:55:30,500
know, come into play.
Either a year from now or 10

896
00:55:30,500 --> 00:55:33,800
years from now.
But he also talks a little bit

897
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:36,400
about the the recruiting role
that price is going to step into

898
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:38,000
with coordinating for the
defense.

899
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:42,100
And, you know, I like what he
what he said, they're, you know,

900
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,700
going to be talking about, you
know, who the kids talking

901
00:55:44,700 --> 00:55:45,700
about.
Whoo.

902
00:55:45,900 --> 00:55:49,500
Within that kids orbit you need
to connect with to make sure

903
00:55:49,500 --> 00:55:52,800
that, you know, you're on the
right page with the people that

904
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:57,000
are important to that kid,
coordinate back to the coaches.

905
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:00,400
What's been said to that kid?
What needs to be said to that

906
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:03,200
kid, all those type of things
that's going to be important for

907
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,800
that role.
So he highlighted that and I

908
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:09,300
think that was kind of good
insight into what, you know,

909
00:56:09,300 --> 00:56:12,800
kind of the the progress this
team is making on the recruiting

910
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,200
front, even if it's not quite
happening as fast as we would

911
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:18,800
like it to Yep.
Well, we're in a now Society.

912
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:22,400
Everybody wants now now, now,
now now, but that orbit thing,

913
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,500
you talked about, because he
even said it, he's like, you

914
00:56:24,500 --> 00:56:31,500
know, uncle's coaches trainers,
pastors know everybody, because

915
00:56:31,500 --> 00:56:35,400
if you connect with one of them,
a potential, you connect me,

916
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:41,900
connect with the, you know his
uncle his Uncle Jim and he loves

917
00:56:41,900 --> 00:56:44,500
Uncle Jim and you have great
conversations off.

918
00:56:44,500 --> 00:56:48,300
I'm Jenna Uncle.
Jim is Is able to translate some

919
00:56:48,300 --> 00:56:51,200
of the stuff you're saying to
him and it's Uncle Jim saying it

920
00:56:51,700 --> 00:56:55,500
not the coach from Virginia Tech
that's when it starts coming in

921
00:56:55,500 --> 00:56:57,700
and slyke will hold on.
If Uncle Jim likes what he's

922
00:56:57,707 --> 00:56:59,700
saying and I understand what
he's saying and I like it.

923
00:56:59,700 --> 00:57:02,700
Okay, maybe this is where I go.
All right, Brian.

924
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,200
Let's just go ahead and beat up
on, everybody's favorite

925
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:06,800
punching bag in the Hokies
Community.

926
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:12,100
Currently Pete, Moore's.
Eat more.

927
00:57:12,100 --> 00:57:15,000
If we're gonna, we're gonna hit
him because it's couple things.

928
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,100
That happened a we already
mentioned it earlier with the

929
00:57:18,107 --> 00:57:23,300
norm would tweet.
If U stream the presser in real

930
00:57:23,300 --> 00:57:31,300
time, you do not have to refute
these clickbait headlines or

931
00:57:31,300 --> 00:57:35,100
clickbait tweets or all this
stuff, it's already there.

932
00:57:35,100 --> 00:57:37,300
People that were interested of
already seen it.

933
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:41,000
And if someone comes out with
this bullshit, you can in real

934
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:45,100
time before it becomes a
narrative.

935
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:49,000
You're back it up with actual
footage that can say hey, that's

936
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,500
not what he said.
Here's what was said in context.

937
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:55,600
Yeah, it's a no brainer.
These are stop missing the

938
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:58,900
layups.
I must've stopped missing the

939
00:57:58,900 --> 00:58:02,500
layups but it's also a funny
point because you talk about,

940
00:58:02,500 --> 00:58:06,600
not only they can do it but we
Okie Nation can do it.

941
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:08,900
Because if that they have been
streamed live and there's

942
00:58:08,900 --> 00:58:11,400
probably three, four hundred
people listening to it, probably

943
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:13,000
on Twitter, like we are see
Norm.

944
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:16,700
Does that they're all over him.
The second he tweets it.

945
00:58:17,100 --> 00:58:20,900
Bullshit Norm, or you need to
take this down and you need to

946
00:58:20,900 --> 00:58:22,100
put it.
Exactly how it is.

947
00:58:22,107 --> 00:58:24,500
Contextualized.
You're trying to get clicks.

948
00:58:24,500 --> 00:58:26,200
You're trying to write a
narrative.

949
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:27,400
We don't like it.
It.

950
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:31,000
And then the whole piece becomes
if people start looking at that

951
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:32,800
and saying why are all these
people saying?

952
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:35,500
What he said was wrong, do they
listen?

953
00:58:35,500 --> 00:58:38,500
Oh, here's the key.
Oh, Norms full of shit out of

954
00:58:38,500 --> 00:58:40,000
shop.
What about the other thing,

955
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:41,000
Brown?
We're listening to it.

956
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,700
There's 23 minutes of Jay hams
and we're sitting here is going

957
00:58:43,700 --> 00:58:47,800
to a really good piece.
And seriously, J Hamm was

958
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,100
talking about his family and
some other stuff and all of a

959
00:58:50,100 --> 00:58:53,200
sudden the feed ends.
I don't think there was any

960
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:58,300
other questions after that, but
he cut him off before he The

961
00:58:58,300 --> 00:59:02,300
answer he was giving to the last
question or the or whatever, you

962
00:59:02,300 --> 00:59:05,100
know, context, he was he was
speaking on at that time as he

963
00:59:05,107 --> 00:59:10,100
was closing things out, probably
not anything of importance there

964
00:59:10,100 --> 00:59:13,300
but you don't cut somebody off
in the middle of a sentence just

965
00:59:13,300 --> 00:59:15,800
to do it.
So that was kind of weird to me

966
00:59:16,500 --> 00:59:18,900
and it looks unprofessional,
especially since you're putting

967
00:59:18,900 --> 00:59:24,600
that on your website for any and
everyone to listen to Yeah,

968
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:28,700
that's just Bethany.
Exactly.

969
00:59:29,100 --> 00:59:32,600
I Braun.
So let's just go ahead and just

970
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:35,000
do it, you know, we watched both
of them.

971
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,200
Give me the what you felt in
kind of what we discuss.

972
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:42,700
Is the biggest differences
between the daehan presser and

973
00:59:42,700 --> 00:59:47,900
the corn.
Presser The way J Hamm in gauges

974
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:53,100
with the members of the press
Corps is not only significantly

975
00:59:53,100 --> 00:59:55,300
better but impressive in its own
right.

976
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:58,400
Praise the good questions that
we're coming out.

977
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:01,800
Makes observations about people,
in the Press Corps that are on

978
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,800
the zoom call.
Then he called out Mike Barber

979
01:00:04,900 --> 01:00:08,500
having some of his children's
drawings, in the background on

980
01:00:08,500 --> 01:00:12,300
the zoom call.
So he understands that those

981
01:00:12,700 --> 01:00:18,400
personal Aspects of these type
of engaging things matter.

982
01:00:18,700 --> 01:00:22,200
These engagements matter.
It, it's good for the fanbase,

983
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:25,500
it's good for the media.
It's good for everything.

984
01:00:25,500 --> 01:00:30,200
There's no reason to be
combative with with these folks

985
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:33,800
because they're, they're trying
to do their job most of the

986
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:36,900
time.
And you know, when it comes time

987
01:00:36,900 --> 01:00:40,400
to something like the norm would
tweet, you have a leg to stand

988
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:45,000
on if your You've been engaging
with with the media, whether

989
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:49,100
you've been open with the media.
If you're not open, they write

990
01:00:49,100 --> 01:00:52,500
the narrative themselves, but
when you have stuff like this,

991
01:00:52,500 --> 01:00:57,100
it helps that relationship and
it helps when you do have some

992
01:00:57,100 --> 01:01:00,400
sort of beef with something that
that is written or tweeted.

993
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:03,300
You feel like you've got some
sort of leg to stand on with

994
01:01:03,300 --> 01:01:06,300
your argument.
Abso-freakin'-lutely.

995
01:01:06,300 --> 01:01:08,400
Brian.
Absolutely right.

996
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:10,900
Your narrative, right?
Your narrative.

997
01:01:10,900 --> 01:01:14,300
Don't let them write it.
Brian, checking out here.

998
01:01:14,300 --> 01:01:16,600
I don't think anything's broken.
I don't think we picked up our

999
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:20,400
second commitment of the day
with high.

1000
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:24,700
Yeah man.
You guys will hear about that on

1001
01:01:24,700 --> 01:01:27,400
a separate episode coming at you
soon here.

1002
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:31,000
There's nothing left.
Brian, it's late man.

1003
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:33,900
The snow keeps falling.
It's going to be a fun day

1004
01:01:33,900 --> 01:01:37,500
tomorrow and that's going to
wrap up this episode of The

1005
01:01:37,500 --> 01:01:40,600
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1006
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:45,500
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1011
01:01:58,300 --> 01:02:02,400
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