CHEM 300: The Properties of Hellfire

0:48 The boundary Corner podcast. My name is Curtis Wilson. I'm Brian. Delicious midnight and seeing the Packers beat the 49ers 21-3 at the current moment which should be no shock when legitimately staffed up. Exactly, that's Carter's backup quarterback back up tight in backup offensive. Lineman top three wide receivers are out top legitimate offensive weapon out, you know, it is what it is. So we might as well record it because I'm not you know nothing really to gain here is really thrilling or Making you very happy.

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2:31 It's did the benefit of yourself in the long run? Not the short run, you know, so respect on that mr. Siegel, yes, sir. All right before we hit Know The Enemy Brian. Let's let's take a look. Couple hokey headlines today. One goes back all the way to the last Thursday, you know, clearly, we recorded last Wednesday and then Saturday night. Well, when it's midnight, we've been drinking and watching football all day. Sometimes things slip are mine. But Hokies pick up a very nice commitment of the state of Tennessee. Jaden Keller, the three star athlete 6320 to out of Bristol. So, literally right on the line there. The video was pretty cool with him, showing both sides of the line, especially a guy who reports a Tennessee offering a Virginia Tech offer with a few other ones, but we got in. What are you seeing so far on this guy? Brian.

3:31 As you know that he plays on both sides, the ball plays wide receiver primarily safety on defense, but I think we're projecting more of an outside linebacker. Playing the backer position like Alan Tisdale right now really reminds me a lot of Tisdale actually coming out of high school. We 6320 to tis a was 63 like 2008. So they're in the same ballpark in terms of their size Keller, maybe a shade more athletic As we said he does stuff on the offensive side of the ball as well. He lines up in the backfield split them out wide, kind of does a little bit of everything on the offensive side of the ball but on defense just really good at tracking, the ball really good tackler.

4:16 So I really like what we're getting from him. Like I said, I think he's going to fit in perfectly whenever Ellen, Tisdale moves onto that backer position, very nice. So definitely see him on the defensive side of the ball coming in, with the good frame, you know? Something you looked up right before we jumped on here what Tisdale look like? And he's kind of a mirror image of Alan and, you know, Alan was getting to the right weight before the whole crazy off season started. Now he's playing under sized so hopefully this kid can get to that level pretty quick. Now brown other news breaking today was Virginia. Tech has hired additional football staff Shou Bou. Yeah, Samantha me, huh?

4:59 Yeah some man. When you word joined Virginia Tech as an assistant ad of player engagement for football and in this role, she's going to directing the minister program services and enhance the personal growth and development of the football student-athletes. She will Implement personal development programs, community service activities career, preparation post-grad and she'll also assist in recruiting efforts as well. This is perfect unit ex website, she comes from Loyola of Chicago. And she was an assistant athletic director there. Basically planning budgeting organizing, you know, student development type stuff has her master's from Harvard Education school.

5:45 So obviously a very bright young bright person, joining the staff, and what more can you say? You just said it. Brian, its money, right? Like we're spending money. We're trying to get to the Level where we should be. Yeah, we're finally starting to run the recruiting and Player Development side of things, like a major college football program, instead of like a mom and pop organization in a lot of that. Honestly, it worked for us under Frank for a while, but in the last decade we've been passed by a significantly.

6:29 In some of that is in a situation where we had, Assistant coaches, that were paid very well, that over time, that pay was not Rising comparative to everyone else in our conference, and obviously, especially everyone else that's playing, you know, top 10 football consistently. So it's nice to see us catching up on the recruiting side of things. That's obviously one of the areas that we need the most Improvement, I feel like as a football team is getting recruiting on the level that it needs to be. And It's not going to grow unless we're spending some money there. There's only so much that recruiting can do without the financial support that goes along with so by nothing overnight. We're all of a sudden going to be a top 10 recruiting team but putting more investment on that side of things is definitely going to help us in the long run 100%. I mean, and that's guess spend money to make money essentially and Again, it you're starting to take what you're seeing with these last few roles.

7:38 The young lady that came up from appstate. I'm sorry. Her name is escapes me right now even though I follow her on Twitter now. And this young lady is your speed to put less and less responsibility on the coaches during visits. Looking at, you know, other things, you know, when they go on their road trips and stuff, it's more of this is going to be the person handling you and The coaches are going to be in there and just sell versus the coaches doing everything. So again, it's a development, it's another position. And again, we're slowly, but surely getting there. You know, who knows what happens if there's no pre-code that or there's no code because, yeah, I think after what happened with the Baler stuff I think you were going to see a massive influx of positions. Probably not so much now.

8:32 So we shall see. See the fact that we're spending money, budget crunch aside is probably as much as we could ask for all things considered it. So, I'm going to take it once things clear up on the covid front, and we get back to business as usual at that point. I'll start, you know, hammering more on the salary side of things, especially for our assistance, but I like the effort to get some more support staff when they're recruiting, you know, even with everything going on with covid. So kudos to the to the guys, in the front office, they got that done. Absolutely kudos to witness staff.

9:12 All right, Brian. Well, let's move on. No, the enemy going to do some breakdowns here. Like, we always do every week, guys, this week, it's the in number 25, Liberty Flames, or the Hokies apartment Liberty comes in at 6 and Let's start offensive side Braun I want to start with clearly a name. A lot of hope you spans. No well that's Malik Willis their quarterback, former hokitika. Mick who essentially decommitted from us. Flipped went to Auburn, stay down there for a couple years, then got shipped sensor, not shipped out, but then transfer himself to Liberty.

9:52 And he's had a really, really good season. So far, Brian another duel correctly, quarterback. So forth 1122 yards, passing nine touchdowns to one interception, great ratio there. 67% completions. He does lead his team in rushing with 495 yards at seven a rush which I'm sure for a lot of these fans. They're having now, bad flashbacks of all the previous year, mobile quarterbacks burning us, he had six wrecks down yet another six touchdowns of that. So, 15 total touchdowns or him. He is top 20 in completion percentage. Also top 20 responsible for at 18. He is fourth in yards per Rush.

10:40 Which is the highest for a quarterback in the country. So you know, clearly best Russian quarterback in the country. Based on the stats Braun what makes him so dangerous and why he's putting up these kind of numbers. He's got good Vision, once he finds the lane, he does a great job of turning a lot of games in the big games. We sought a lot in the Syracuse tape that I watched turning a couple of those that look like, okay, well he's running like a quarterback lead sweep and all of a sudden he cuts it up and it's like a 30 yard game.

11:23 So he does that a lot. Pretty good in the scramble drill finds openings in the pass rush lanes and takes advantage of those making linebackers missing space. So he's someone that we definitely keep an eye on. I'm just like the offense is a whole reminds me a lot of kind of Like I'll be I'll call it what it is like a little bit of a poor man's Louisville. Run a lot of Zone read and our po Concepts sometimes, they'll take shots out of the RPO. Sometimes it's more about trying to confuse the confuse the the the linebackers and hitting, some of those intermediate routes. So but we'll is primarily is going to try to beat you with his legs.

12:07 He's efficient with his arm, as you said, I mean he's leaving up there with quarterback efficiency but he is not. Someone that's going to consistently beat you with his arm. He's going to definitely look to be a run first quarterback. Also will bring, you know, you mentioned that about his legs. And then, you know, we give the running staff, but then you say, well, you know, he's legs first, but he still has a very good rapport with his primary target. His favorite Target from a leak, the five foot, nine hundred eighty five pound wide receiver. DJ stub so far Stubbs this year. Twenty seven receptions for 375 yards about 14 yards per catch with three touchdowns. He's a three star.

12:54 He is out of Florida. He is naughty transfer the, there's a lot of them that are transferring into Liberty. You know, he doesn't really jump out in one specific category you know in the country but when a team like this is running the ball, you know, over 60%, you know, right at 40, 39 percent, you know, passing the ball, you really wouldn't expect Him to do that. So kind of makes sense, but he is doubling up the other receivers on this team in receptions and is yards. So, I feel like we've got to go a little bit more in-depth on DJ, what are you seeing from him, and what do they like to do with Imran?

13:38 So, in the pass game, and I'll go ahead and break down the pass game, a little bit more here as well. I've noticed that it looks like they like to in the games that they played weaker competition. They thrown it more and in games that they have a little more of a stout front, they've actually run it more. Yes. So a lot of the games where Willis had a lot of those passing yards, came against teams that I would consider more inferior competition relative to Liberty. Okay. Versus some of the other games that they played, where the competition was close to level or in the same ballpark like your Syracuse's but the way they use DJ stuff, They use them a lot in the intermediate routes on the RPO and they take a lot of shots with them out of the RPO. Okay, I've seen him run some, some digs and some Slants, some kind of square ins and I've seen him Get taking, you take a couple shots down the field with them in the on a fade or go route.

14:46 So they'll use them kind of in different ways. They're not going to really run a full route tree with them, but they do like to work the intermediate area, the field with them and they'll take some shots with it. So it sounds like Bron the reason. He's probably leading this team in receptions, as he probably is the guy who can do all the things as compared. When you see a god double up and you just mention it there, he's taken deep shot, he's running some internet. He's not doing a massive route tree but he's going deep. He's from the digs, he's running across the middle, he's running some Square ends, kind of makes sense why he is their leading wide receiver, but but Ron, let's just be straight up with it. I mean, you take a look, there running 6040. Obviously, the running game is a huge. We've already hit Willis up a little bit about what he's doing, but three running backs, Josh Mac paid and pick it and she'd read Louise.

15:36 They're averaging respectively, Mac, five and a half per carry Peyton. You get five per carry and she drove Louis 8.7 of carry. The team is number six in the country. Russian Football, 255 yards, a game, 14, total touchdowns. Now, Brian, I do want to look at it as our offensive line. I know, you'll probably hit that but they kind of rank kind of in the middle. Given up sacks bout to a game but they in kind of in the middle third down percentage at 43.9. So So what not only, why are they having such a good rushing attack with these guys and what's their line doing?

16:18 That helps them there but maybe not this good in pass protection. Sure. So the big thing that they have, you mentioned it Cesar Luis, he is their big play guy. He is very similar in both ability and Breakaway speed as we saw with Hawkins for Louisville. So okay. When you get to the second level, he will run away from you. So I liked our game plan that we had for Hawkins last week. I would pretty much like to see something similar to kind of hold him in check. Now the other two guys are significantly different in their their style of running. So Mac and Mac actually has as seen his snap count go down significantly since the first part of the season, but he's more of your kind of one cut, stick mover type back. Whereas Pickett is very much, a kind of, a bulldozer type back. He's the guy that can run over you but he's got just enough of a wiggle to kind of make things happen in space as well. But I like I said, I'm more worried about Louis in this case because I saw him hit two home runs against Syracuse including a 75-yard ER and I'm more concerned about the big play against the team like Liberty than I am with, you know, six and eight yard games because I feel like on the on the the whole we will be able to contain that but getting beat with one play.

17:49 That's much harder to come back from. All right. What else were they doing in the running game? I mean, is it just? Is it just a Zone re-type stuff or they you know inside outside or what kind of making them what's making them? You'll see jet motion. You'll see three or four running backs in the backfield with Willis. They'll do a lot of mentioned earlier. Some lead quarterback sweeps. You know they like that a lot of gives Willis an opportunity to read a block and then cut a feel, they'll do that several different ways.

18:31 Sometimes they'll just run that to the side where the running back is and let the running back lead. Sometimes they will, do they'll send jet motion towards where the running backs aligned, fake it to the fake, The Zone read and then let the the quarterback keep it towards the jet motion. Lift the Jetman be the lead blocker there. So See them kind of deploy a lot of different things there but they use window dressing to good effect. So it's going to be key that we kind of, don't chase guys, I don't have the football, don't want to get position in that case with with a guy that's not even not even get the football in his hand. So but their offensive line is good but they're not, they're not great, they're kind of undersized little more finesse type offensive line but they're very technically sound so that they've been coached Well, and they do a good job of staying on their blocks.

19:29 So that they use, you know, track level athletes that they have had climbed to the next level and cause some Havoc there. So, it's going to be key that we shed blocks and have good run fits from our linebackers and our safeties and run coverage. I hear you man taking a look here. Looks like Sam Craig is their offensive line coach and it's looking through his not the biggest you know, resume Nay. So far, you know, like graduated from Murray State Arkansas, Monticello Southwest Baptist or some of his coaching stop. So clearly they have kind of found one kind of out of the NCAA D2.

20:15 Rough. That is done a good job with what they've got there. So Brian let me ask this What do we do to stop? Because I feel like defensively, I feel like that's more important this week than offense just because, you know, we know what this offense when they're running, right? Can do defense has had the struggles this year? Yeah, they definitely been more up and down. They played some good games, they played some bad, they played some good halves, and they put together that with the bad half, and vice versa. So it'll be interesting to see how they do. You know, if, if I'm coaching them up, I'm telling my linebacker. Hers.

20:56 You got to stay home, stay disciplined. Don't fall for the window dressing because that's going to be something where if we get one or two guys out of position on those, it can create some really big holes and once those line but those running backs, get to the second level, it could be, you know, lights out, especially if it's Lewis with the ball. If we can hold a good inside. I feel good about guys like Tisdale Connor and Taylor, they're going to need to come up, make some big plays on the edge and then the scramble drill to Wait, any of those plays on the edge getting turning into big gains and just in the passing game it's going to be kind of similar to what I say with Louisville. That's going to be keep their primary wide receiver threat in front of you. That's going to be stub.

21:39 So you can keep stubs in front of you, stay home at the back of position and then make those plays as some of those running game. Russia's get spilled outside. I think we're going to be okay. Yeah, well I mean that was a reason he frees had success down the SEC. See, I mean that you're, you know, you beat Bama, he beat some of the better teams down there. The guy knows how to coach football, he scumbag there's no doubt about that, but also especially on the offensive side, very Innovative and a lot of the stuff. He's always done. Yeah.

22:19 Any anything, any any when this higher was made, let me ask Brian where you shop? Man after everything that's come out recently. Absolutely not. Oh yeah. Indiscretions with school-issued cell phones and just say it. Exactly alarms.

23:58 A little bit big alarms real quick. As good as the offensive defense is showing out pretty good to form. They are a top 10 Total Defense Ryan, they give up only 294 yards a game, they forced eight, turnovers in six games. So you as a defense, you probably are looking for more 10 to 12.

24:44 So a little bit on the low side averaging about three sacks per game, which is pretty daggone, good and six tackles for loss. So, getting to the backfield, some even As good as those numbers say, Brian still there, given up 21 points per game. You would kind of expect, maybe a little less than that. So it's kind of interesting top 10 on third down stops. We've discussed our issues already with our third, down in the last few weeks. I don't like that. So Brian, what kind of Defense are they running? And why they've been so effective? So they run a hybrid 34 front, which for those that don't know.

25:26 In this case what we're talking about is that you've got the positions that are really kind of different than make it the hybrid are the Bandit and Rover positions which in this case are their Edge rushers or guys that play the the traditional outside linebacker role in a 3-4 defense and the way they deployed the Bandit is more like a traditional 234 Edge Rush, usually lined up opposite, the strength. Rushing on the weak side, primarily a rush first player think of like a almost like a Von Miller type player would usually be that that Bandit role and sometimes they'll be in coverage but usually that's like covering the flat.

26:12 They're usually not in any sort of middle of the feel responsibility and coverage. Then the Rover is the opposite of The Rover is more of a cover. First outside linebacker, very similar to how we deploy our wit, almost like a nipple, but they play a little bit closer to the line of scrimmage, sometimes in the Box sometimes out, depending on the alignment of the offense. Whether it's, you know, a heavy wide receiver set or something more, you know, one or two tight end. And so that kind of really gives them flexibility in how they mix up their fronts. You know, they'll kind of Shuffle their guys over where, when the band, It's rushing the passer. It almost looks like a almost like a 4-2 with just a stand-up defensive end to the weak side and then sometimes it looks more like a traditional 34 front of them that you're used to seeing a lot of teams run. So but they are a little bit smaller upfront than you would see what the typical 3-4 defense so their nose isn't huge, their tackle DNS or not very very big either so they're pretty Judge against the run because of that, they do have some good linebackers and they have a really great pass. Rush, especially those Edge guys, particularly the guy that plays the Bandit position for them, they did have some success in slowing down the passing game and it that's really predicated on getting after the quarterback and kind of mixing up where they're bringing the pressure from nice. Now, Brian, I do see, you know,

27:47 The Edge be in the weakness. Let's hope we run outside Zone unlike against wait for us, where we should have ran inside Zone, but it's to hear about to get on. Yeah, I mean, the heart of their defense is the weakness because of the way, they mix up the alignment of the Bandit and Rover, sometimes that creates a softer Edge for them. So we should be able to get to the edge in the outside Zone and give Khalil Herbert some areas to either. Find the alley or cut back. Now Braun. I take a look at his defense and I was I was looking through their players, one got definitely stood out. Redshirt senior transfer from University, North Carolina, Charlotte in, you know, Anthony Butler six 1225 linebacker, 41, tackles three tackles for loss. One sack two interceptions, along with him run. Is there anybody else it on the defensive side of the ball that we need to really make work like work? Like if you tell me they're having to kill themselves to stop us I'll feel comfortable.

28:56 Say they're not going to win this game. They're better. Players are dominate or getting dominated. Yeah, so other than Anthony Butler is going to be Darrell Johnson with Butler. I mean, he's a he's a lot of back at the inside linebacker, he gets really good reads and he pursues plays well. Sideline to sideline comes up and makes really sure tackles. He's also good in coverage, he has a two interceptions on the season. So he's a guy that can kind of make plays both in the Run game and the passing game, but we're looking at, probably the thing that could hurt us the most, it's going to be Darrell Johnson, the pass rusher. Sure, he plays that Bandit position that I've been talking about and he's probably the guy that concerns me the most, because when he can get after the quarterback, you know, that's when those the, the turnovers that they have Force, that's when those things come, whether it's forcing a throw, too quick for an interception, or tip ball or, you know, things like that. So, Darrell Johnson is probably the person I want to focus on neutralizing because he's the one that kind of hurts you in ways that are harder to overcome than It's like a two or three yard loss on a first down run or something like that. It's been Darrell Johnson and see a butler to Dame's to remember out there hokey fans as you're watching the game Saturday afternoon.

30:17 So, Bryan, we look at the stats. We look at what they do. We look at a couple of their key players. How we attack in them, we are going to run the football run, the football and run the football we run. Run, run. Yeah, I don't want us to pass. Unless we're just trying to keep them honest, they start stacking the Box, we can start working in some passes but just the way they are front, I feel like we should be able to impose our will and almost run. It will again on this team. If we don't do that, I will be a little concerned. I want to stay ahead of the the sticks because of our troubles on third down. And because of what they like to do with the pass rush, if we can stay ahead of the sticks and get the third and shorts, I feel like we can convert more often than not and it gives us the choice of run or pass in those situations which will take some of the aggressiveness away from those Edge rushers in defensive ends that are trying to rush the passer. They've got a still on the Run, they can't just pin their ears back.

31:23 I'm so that your gets to my other point here, converting, on third downs. We have to be better than we were last week in running on third down. If we're not, I'm not going to be happy winner lose and in the passing game. Honestly, the short stuff should work against these guys because of their aggression, I want to see short passes screens Throwbacks. We want to take advantage of the aggression that they like to rush the passer with and make that work in our favor. So what you're kind of saying Is the things that we have done best over the season early last week we I saw somebody out there kind of complaint about one of the drives where we do.

32:06 We kick a field goal and we score where we pass the ball numerous times but it wasn't deep shots. It was Pepper, pop, pop, pop pop. And then we ran so it sounds like if we short pass, run, run, run for pass, we keep them honest and they start coming more and more up where second half we can go deep, right? Exactly. All right. Perfect Brian. Awesome.

32:47 All right. Let's be straight up here. Brian. This is a 6 and 18. They're ranked for the first time I believe in their school history, but all six opponents are not created equal Ryan's. You and other people have talked about this, but let's, let's just look at a few things here. First of all, they played six opponents. Hey, Brian. The six opponents have won a combined four games. Yeah, they played more games in the, their opponents have one, they've lost 28. So let's take the Liberty with losses out of their they're combined for and 22.

33:37 They're not winning 23% of their games. So these aren't that good? A teams in Southern Miss Northern Alabama, who was a SCS opponent who the Hokies were scheduled to play this year in September. That's why you Western Kentucky, you LM in Syracuse Syracuse player with the ACC. We've talked about them. They are the worst team in the ACC, I think they have one win and that was over. Georgia Tech. No, not Georgia Tech, Georgia Tech. Okay, let's just do some rankings, first of all, we can't even look at North Alabama because they're not in the FBS.

34:21 We have no statistical data on them. Brian you ready for it? Breaking down but you mentioned in the right man is tall. Fences lighten up. We mentioned the staff they're good. when you play teams ranked 41, Which is the best 8086 67, and 91. I hope you were putting up points. I hope you were putting up a lot of yards because if you're not, you're probably worse than them significantly. Now I'll be straight up. We are not a juggernaut, we're at 83, so down in there. I think we played significantly better competition offensively than them.

35:10 Southern Miss and you LM. And if I, you know, we have because you know why Not good. It gets worse significantly. You LM is at 92. Western Kentucky is at 96. FIU is at 97 in Syracuse, who is the only one that's playing Division. 1 significant competition is at 100. Syracuse would have made that game interesting. Your Tommy DeVito was starting true. Now I'll pay this defensively what you can tuck your arms 41, right?

36:09 But their best to defensive games came against Chattanooga was Chattanooga. Brian. They're an SDS cool, you know, but yeah, yeah, yeah, SES, absolutely, your nausea Middle. Tennessee State Milton as he States. Another one of the worst teams. If you don't remember watching the army game, where they go wham bolt, if you take those two performances out, Western Kentucky is giving up 38 points per game. That's the best defense. They played now Virginia Tech on the offensive side of the ball. This will be the best offense. This team has seen we Are ranked 16th in the country total offense, the number for rushing offense. and as we say that Brian and as I put that out there, I think we've got a once the terminology for. I think we have a paper Champion. Okay, okay, your paper tinker But the game still has to be played, right?

37:14 It still has to be played and there's a contest that we absolutely. So, let's flip it Brian, because clearly, we still got to play the game. They're still pivotal Players that we need to mention. Let's start on defense. Brian. I know I don't have it in that order but let's start on defense. The number one moving up and I feel like either they have been on this list or the entire group has been on this list every week who's our number one, he tackles. And why is that D tackles you need to play well because they run the ball a lot We cannot.

38:10 Void areas in the middle of the offense and let Lewis just get to the second level without any sort of push back or somebody getting an arm on. I mean, even if you don't make the tackle, we just need to he can't just have a hole where he can really get to the second level at full speed. So defensive tackle play is going to be important, spilling stuff outside with those. Those good fills from our linebackers is going to be important but If the defensive tackles are getting moved out of their fits which they shouldn't because again, this is not a team that that can move you around very much, even if you are undersized, just like they are so defensive tackles need to hold up.

38:59 If they hold up, I like our chances here, let me ask this. You think we see more fuga run. Again obviously Crawford's back we saw Crawford a lot on the field last week. Like, here's what I'd like to see you in. This is no disrespect to Hewitt. I'd like to see Crawford and Hinton, Kendricks, run the front line, okay? And let Q it work with fuga in the second line, okay? You balance under sized with, very good size and then you have the two guys that are kind of in the to 90 range on the front line together. That's what I would do.

39:39 Okay, I can I'm assuming you thinking. No rails, just third down. Specialist third and over 5. He's in her garden. Honestly, we're starting to get it. The tackle position as guys are getting healthy. You know, having him have another year and get some more size where he's not having to play. The front line is probably a good thing for us. Absolutely. Because I like his, I like his top inability, but I'd like to see him put on another 10 or 15 pounds before. He's a 3 on player for us night in Night Out. Absolutely. Another guy that's made this list and when you mentioned earlier Louisville, we talked about it, Alan Tisdale once again in our pivotal players role because of the Dual threat quarterback and all the things he can do. Obviously, on defense, dropping run, blitzes past, blitzes actually covering people and spine athletic quarterbacks. Now, what are you put Malek's this Malek's? Malik Willis has compared to Cunningham's level more of a problem for for Tuesday or less.

40:53 That's a really great question, man. I think this offense Needs Willis to run more than Louisville needed Cunningham to run. Okay. But I think Cunningham overall is the better athlete, so kind of hedging. My bets are a little bit. You know what you're saying? Malik, we did not see. I don't think we saw one quarterback draw against us. I'd have to go back in the memory and look at it. Don't remember any drawers? I remember the scrambles Compared to where Malik is what they do. Clearly he's leading the team in rushing the ball, in his hands so much where Tisdale may not be playing coverage or may not be Blitzen as much where he's just stay with that guy. And if he decides to run, find him and get him down. Yeah.

41:49 It's gonna be a design runs and design runs where there isn't any sort of. You know, passing misdirection into. It's definitely going to be more of the window dressing in the backfield with the motion. Then it is going to necessarily be like the drawers that we saw with Cunningham's so you know and you're going to see a lot more, you know, the sweeps with the quarterback sometimes with it that lead blocker, whether it's the jet man or whether it's the running back. So it's going to be A tall order stopping the running game, and staying disciplined. They're so from that perspective, I guess, I think Willis is probably a little more dangerous, but I think I like Cunningham's athleticism a little bit more.

42:33 Yeah, yeah. Now the third guy. Brian, I didn't get a chance to I was tending, the baseball practice. And when I say, hey, finish the list real quick, man, just because I'm not gonna have time baseball game and I practice, why'd you put Shamari third tamori. Connor number three. Because of how much they run the ball man. He's going to be relied on heavily setting the edge, caching the trash, it's getting spilled outside, getting some good run fills in there. We're going to be relying on him heavily. He's probably also at some some points with Tisdale's not spying on Willis, he's going to be the guy that spying Willis. So he's going to be called on to do a whole lot in the running game and honestly the area that he's weakest in in the past the game is probably not going to be. Is glaring against a team like this. So I think he's going to be a guy to look for and have a standout game.

43:26 Got it. All right, so there's your three pivotal key players on defense. The defensive tackle groups. Allen Tisdale tomorrow Connor, let's flip over the offensive. Number one, when you told me how they looked up front, it was not even a question. That is juice Herbert. Yep, we don't run the ball all day and, you know, I'm calling it now. He's going to be he's going to break 200. All right, so he's breaking 200. Is he going to break the Thousand? We going to hit that was a 2007 he needs. Yeah, I've got him clipping unless we get out way way big way earlier. We just start resting a lot of the starters. He's going to get these on.

44:11 Get that 2007. All right I'll get the 2007. Well if well the honest truth is though even if we're resting if we're a big, he might have broke two or three over 40 so he still might have got the to us. He still might be closed yet. You, all right. The second set of guys. Again this is what Brian. We hit the first two guys on defense, and then I had to step away. I'm not shocked once you talked about Darrell. I saw him almost mention them, but I didn't Luke 2 Nu du and Christian Darris are offensive tackles as the number two pivotal player on offense. Ryan, you've already hit it once but just just, you know, recalibrate why you feel?

44:56 They're important in both aspects of our offense. I mean seals on the outside Zone and keeping Darrell Johnson away from Hendon hooker and any passing games where they can really, you know, pin their ears back and come after Herbert. I mean come after hooker can I ask you a question? Yeah. As Darrell seeing anybody near as good as Darius are two new do. Two new to may be in the ballpark there are so he'll know, okay? Because I think I see your number 3 on this. Big Stone Gap and Nick Gallo.

45:38 Are you putting on there because of the rail because of they're going to be helping or is it more passing game? Or is it a little combination of both the combination of both? We're going to look at some probably some screens and short passes and Throwbacks. That's James Mitchell. And McGowan Wald a running game they're going to be responsible for chipping helping seal getting up on some of their backers to make sure that there's some Lanes outside for Herbert to really take advantage of. So they're gonna be needed on both aspects of the offense both running past and I like both of them to have a good day and I like James Mitchell to probably have a pretty big day.

46:19 I hear you Mitchell. You know we knew Mitchell was going to be as was going to be a star in every every aspect this year. But I'll tell you what Nick Gallo has really proven himself in these first six games not only as a blocker, but make it in some timely catches and in a way where The focus of a lot of those linebackers and safeties. Go to Big Stone is when Nick's kind of come through it, some good catches and it's great having especially after losing Dalton. And it's awesome that he has stepped in the way, he stepped. Yeah, absolutely. He's definitely, he's played about as well as I hoped. He would play when we were talking about all this stuff preseason. So, hats off to make Gallo so far. Absolutely.

47:06 All right, let's hit real quick. Released earlier today, Dean Ferguson gets to 25. I saw somebody make a joke. We're not going to see him a lot. I feel like dean's out there. A tunnel special teams. Maybe I'm missing it but I feel like on kick return punt return units. He is there and clearly sure he is on pretty much every standard special except for a field goal. Yeah, which is lucky for a linebacker. Because usually, that's going to be your offensive grouping, but good for him guy that maybe in the next couple of years, we Ste into a starting role in the line back and forth.

47:48 I Brian near and dear to our hearts. Well, kind of, it's all Maroon. I like it. Just take away the stripes, God, take away. Just make art from the chest plate down. It's perfect. It's so true. When I read it, it's only halfway.

48:29 There it is. I'm looking at it. Now they're the freakin Stripes, why maroon maroon Rune beautiful white. V T right there, on the right on the collar bone. It would be great. The helmets fine. I'm actually okay with me on the stripes, on the helmet. Yeah. Test below that below own room. On the shoulder pads? Yes. Why does bad?

49:10 These are God awful. So we've got the 25. Let's get to our predictions, run. You loved last week. I'm going to leave this week, putting the Hokies in the win column this week. Hey, hey we're back. I don't think liberal he's played anybody and I Ali. See us. Hopefully shedding them and for the people like, Norm would who put them in the top 25 without doing research, because I hate to say this. If Virginia Tech played that sort of scheduled Norm would have us at like 36, so he's at a, they're doing a disservice to journalism because you're not doing any research. They played literally, I think there's a third worst schedule in the country.

50:07 Yeah, they I want all their games, but be honest. Give me 4828 VT, okay? I'm right there with you, but I'm not quite as high in both columns, but I'm right there on the spread. Give me, 45, 24, V T all day. All right. So, there we go. For the Capper on Know The Enemy, and let's move over. As I look at it. It's 31 23 now. Yeah, we were inside the 10 and we went for it on fourth and one and you know, somebody who usually doesn't play for got to block a linebacker on the quarterback sneak.

50:51 I'm shocked. Not that shocked. Let's take a look and do some of our picks. Yes. Last week as we Mentioned Saturday night. You guys heard on Monday? We had our worst week ever and I was 17. Brian was two and six. We kept. Yeah, we act all over the place. This was this was like, you know, Guy in college, we know would just get housed. Pass out, puke all over himself, that's what we did. I know that guy, you know that guy if he's listening tomorrow, you know who you are. Another page.

51:43 Feel free to do so. Call yourself out. Everybody's had their moments but let's take a look at some of these pics Prime. Let's start with NC State Miami tomorrow night, Miami laying, 10 and a half. What are you feeling on this one, buddy? Man. I'm going to take Miami thing will go with Miami here. Yeah I just I'm not sure about NC State with Hockman and I think Miami does just enough to clear the 10 and a half there. It's true man.

52:24 And you know last week, you know, given sea State, you know, we sort of mean both went with We essentially both went with NC State. No, that was a couple weeks ago so my bad. Look at the wrong thing. I feel like Carolina screwed us out. Last week, right? They were like 13 and a half Point favorite. So I'm thinking of another game but I'm with you it's icy. Miami on this one, kind of bouncing back laying the ten and a half, I think they probably win the game somewhere in the neighborhood of you know 3521. I don't I just can't see NC State's going.

53:04 Enough to keep it within 24 hours. Yep, I've got a 12 to 14 point spread in my head as well. So I mean I don't think it's a it's a solid but I think it's, you know, good enough to beat the two and a half there. Absolutely. Alright. Next, let's look at UNC Duke UNC laying 11 and a half. I know this is a rivalry game and everything, but we've seen Duke play in. Do you give it against us, where we were? Down and having struggles. They still lost Us by two points. I do not count that field goal. If you, if you lost, you know, curse at the head coach because only he had some money and he took his side but I can't see him keeping it this close.

53:54 I see Carolina with what they do offensive ly. I mean, I could see this like a 42. I could see the similar to the NC State game like in, you know, you can see gets into the low. 40s and do maybe various 20. Okay, okay, I'm I'm right there with you. I think it's a UNC bounce back. I don't I just don't see them laying two eggs like that back-to-back, against what you would call secondary rivalry teams. So Give me UNC there. Exactly. Yeah. That's right.

54:35 UNC lost to UVA. So they screwed us last week to laying that seven, when they couldn't get out of their own way. All right. It was an interesting one here because it's another double digit line. Syracuse BC, BC is laying 13 and a half. Now Brian, I presented to you a little bit earlier how bad Syracuse was both on the offensive and defensive side. Side of the ball. Yes. Is that enough for you to lay 13 and a half would be C? Or are you going to go the other way? Yeah, this is a tough one because I don't necessarily like Syracuse is not great but probably what their defense does okay yet is his coverage in the passing game. I think they give up a ton in the in the rushing game. BC does not rush the ball with any degree of efficiency. I'm going to take Syracuse.

55:42 All right. Brian takes is like a 10 point win by BC, but I don't think they get to the 39. Bryan taking Syracuse, land, 13 and a half. I can't, I can't do that because I think it's even as Good as okay? Syracuse is on the back end. I think BC might have got a little bit of Confidence from that game last week against Clemson. So I am going to lay the Thirteen and a half and I'm going to be risking it because I see this as like a 14 to 16 point game and this is like the ones where it's like you see and you like yeah that's like a 16 or 14 point game and then immediately take it off your books.

56:29 Like now we can't screw that one. That's what tickles. It's of what my head is saying. So yeah, give me BC in that case. All right, Brian, we've got our first real toss-up game of the day. Here pit. FSU FSU is the favorite here laying to I have no clue. How is Paris Ford worth, you know, FSU being favored, maybe, maybe not but that's still a solid defense. Even as bad as pick it is, it is one of The worst defensive teams will play all year. I'll take pit in this case, to break their losing streak and to, you know, sort of to right the wrong as they get ready to come into hokey land and play the Hokies in a couple weeks here.

57:20 So give me pit, give me the two points. I want to go the same direction with you buddy, okay? It is a look great on the back end. Even with Paris for this year, they've been averaging best and some games they've been pretty awful. They're going to be great upfront regardless. So I think that's going to be enough to give them the advantage here, so give me pit. Nothing pit wins it out, right? Yep, same thing. I think that one's it out right to go to 4 and forth and possibly be above 500 coming into the game against Virginia Tech.

58:07 All right, we're going to go for two out of conference games and we're going to come back to the biggest game of the weekend and all the college football tomorrow night, 9:30. I probably will not see this game. I, you know, I got to play it smart, right? We stay up. Late on Saturdays, we're watching games late. We're recording. We're drinking beer having a good time. BYU, Boise number nine. BYU number 21, Boise, This is at the Blue Smurf. Turf with over Boise has been good, pretty much you know ever since they became relevant about 15 years ago, they are home dogs.

58:48 BYU is laying three and a half. So Boise getting three and a half at home here. Brian. What are you seeing on this game? Man. Um, You know, I'm gonna go with the historical numbers here and I'm going to take Boise State in the three and a half. Alright, believe it or not. I'm right with you because this is going to be BYU's. First real challenge of the year. They hadn't their competition into this point. You know, is I take a look through the data here, the competition up to this point for BYU.

59:29 It's not been that great BYU. This is who they played this year. Brian you're ready? They played maybe week one. What do we find out about Navy after that game? They hadn't been tackling at practice. The most competitive games with Houston and then Texas state in Western Kentucky. I think this is the best roster DLC. I think it's the best, skiing, they'll see, give me the three and a half with you, Brian. I think Boise pulls the outright upset and I think BYU goes tumbling back to Earth.

1:00:21 Even the Wilson kid. Yeah. Yeah. Even the Wilson kids going to Tumble back to the Earth. Yeah. Got to go against the main sometime. Alright, it's okay. Next one, go to the SEC, top 10 matchup 5 versus a date. One of my favorite games of the year, always. Always has been since I was a kid. The world's largest outdoor cocktail party. It is not the world's largest outdoor party. It is the world's largest outdoor cocktail party and if anybody tries to tell you any different, say no, you're wrong. My coworker and someone you know big Georgia fan always goes down.

1:01:11 We've heard some of her stories from down there, it gets pretty insane. That's got to be one of those. It's on my bucket list to just go down there and be like a neutral Observer just like sit in the middle and just like let's see how stupid you people get but on this game brine Florida Georgia. Georgia is laying three and a half. And as much as I love Tammy, I've got to go for the simple fact. George has played one, good offense all year and Bam a little Mama. This is the second death offense. They'll see not a good a defense but I don't think they keep up with Florida.

1:01:54 I think Florida get somewhere like 27 28. I think Georgia is a tick behind probably 20 124. I think it's gonna be a hell of a game, but I see that I'll take the points because I'm thinking Florida wins this game outright Man, another week we're agreeing a whole lot on God, it was great. Have you decided what your legal limit bet is for the weak, it's coming, I'm just interested.

1:03:31 Fourth fourth, plus 140 in a money line bet. So, what is it better Hunter to win, 140? That would be a pretty good that would not be a bad bad, man. It's not like, you're not getting into the 200 where you see some of these Bedding. Experts like they see a line at like plus five Hunters like yeah, but that team could play good enough to beat that team. Screw it. So it's hilarious. All right, bro. Notre Dame, Clemson number one versus number 4. DT. Trevor Lawrence out. DJ ukulele! Yeah! That's what my cousin from South Carolina to me a little gift.

1:04:12 It was like, you gotta lay and it's the GOP but it's the joy of where she's going through all them. And at the end, he says, ukulele. Clemson, I liked what I saw from ukulele, despite it being closed, I feel like Clemson kind of felt its way around in the first half and then got their footing in the second half. I like them coming out, knowing what they're going to do this week with a little bit more time to Install the game, playing around this quarterback and around what they can do with them. So, give me Clemson covering the five and twelve laying the five and a half there.

1:05:09 Yeah. And this is my legal limit and I am right with you, man. And did we disagree on anything? Nope, we disagreed on T. He C Qs. I gotta go here with Clemson and Because if I'm half just it's I haven't seen enough out of Notre Dame that tells me that they're going to either outscore or hold Clemson down, right? They've given us some important, some suspect teams, they've been held down by some suspect him. This is not a suspect team. This is also a team with a lot of talent that kind of got scared last week, right? Yeah.

1:05:53 They got scared last week, so I think they probably had one I love a good practice week. I think it's going to be a good game, but I see this as like a 10-point game. I see this some my vision. I see like 27:17, I think Clemson's probably going to slow it down, play a little more run than just trying to flick it out like they would launch. So between etn and ukulele. Sighs, give me that five and a half. Yeah, I don't think Notre Dame is gonna be able to run the ball like they have all season against Clemson. So no, I've got it somewhere in like the probably Clemson getting to like 30, 35

1:07:42 The way I haven't been sleeping. The last few nights between school and the selection and everything else, man. Absolutely nothing. I'm gonna need a couple of nights where I can get some shut-eye on time. I hear you, man. I hear you. I'm scrolling real quick. I'm not seeing anything. Yeah, I'm not seeing anything additional breaking unless you are what some on this ground man. Alright that is going to wrap up this episode of The Boundary Corner podcast. I'm Curtis Wilson, I'm Brian Sigler. Follow us on Twitter, Facebook and subscribe for your podcast on your favorite Source, including Spotify, Amazon, and apple podcast, we always let our friend Jason long, Who's down in the NRV play us out, catch him on Spotify and apple music, and Jason will be playing.

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