This week we're talking the kickoff to camp season, Hokies Softball run comes to an end, Hokies baseball gearing up for Regionals, recruiting updates, and Tom Fornelli's misfire on his 2022 coaches ranking.
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Welcome back to being boundary
Corner podcast.
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I am Curtis welcome.
I Brian siglo buddy we back on a
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Wednesday night.
It's been a while but here we
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are.
Three weeks.
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It's the oldest.
He's the man, we got things
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going on.
You're traveling, we got forts
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going on with kiddos.
You got cool wrapping up.
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Clearly you look at my face, I
spent time at the pool this
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weekend.
I got a little tan.
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You're going on.
I'm not even not do that.
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I did get a couple bike rides
in.
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So bite me when you did my car
that if you also power washed
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Which is probably why I have a
terrible time if they good on
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you man.
You did more yard with metadata
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had to be done.
I mean, you know, there's a few
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places you look around.
It's like, okay, we got to do
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this.
And it's if you commit to doing
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it's like six hours, right?
See it like dinner time?
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But yeah, it has been three
weeks guys.
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A lot of stuff going on and
Hokie Nation.
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We're going to cover a variety
of topics tonight but Brian
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let's kick it off.
And let's talk with let's start
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with big news of the day and
let's talk basketball with
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Justin mutts announcing he will
be returning.
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Yeah, that's big news guys that
really you know we had been
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hoping that we were going to get
that word for our own sake.
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You know, obviously I know,
Justin was exploring.
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Yes, potential draft prospects
there, but I think he knows that
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we're glad to have him back and
we're glad that he's running it
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back for another year with this
hokey team.
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And when we look at this hokey
team now with what, Mike young
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has been able to do in the
offseason between the recruiting
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class and some of the transfer
portal.
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Pickups this is a pretty, pretty
strong, not only starting five,
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but probably the eight or nine
main rotation that we're looking
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at for the 2223 season coming
up.
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Oh, for sure.
I mean, so let's let's let's
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just talk about it.
When we were talking about it
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earlier today at starting five.
Center power forward, you know
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the transfer Grant the seal yep
we feel right.
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I think so.
I think that's going to be the
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essentially a Luma 2.0 in some
ways.
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I think you know there's a
couple parts of the seals game
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that may be a little stronger
than aluminum.
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A couple that might not quite be
as polished.
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At least it we're we're a little
was at this time last year but I
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think overall that was a good
Plug and Play pick up in the
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portal.
Obviously, getting months back,
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that's huge.
Huge group, huge for leadership,
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huge group, home court, play the
matchups.
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He creates what he can do,
especially passing out of the
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pose to guys.
Like, another really good leader
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Hunter Couture.
Yeah, you got, you got Couture
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and then I'll obviously we got
Maddox back there as well.
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Both of those winged guys.
Both can shoot the three well if
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you see Maddux, develop a little
With his defense and his handle,
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he's going to be a big-time
offensive threat.
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Yes.
So I'm looking forward to see
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what he can do with that.
And then obviously, we got John
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Padula, running the point.
Yes, and as much as we can all
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love.
Shown love, storm, Murphy comes
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calling, Sean Murphy storm,
Murphy.
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He was a good point guard, but
that was the one element He was
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missing, was the be able to
create and There was at times
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last year, you saw pedulla.
Come on.
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And there were times he could
create not every single
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possession.
He doesn't have that skill level
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because if he had that skill
level, he would probably already
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have played with your college
and already being the pros.
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But to have him running the
point where, you know,
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occasionally he can just go,
right, you just go create his
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own shot.
You know, I know there were
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there's there's a lot of
concerns about is there anybody
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behind them?
But I think between Maddox
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Couture him in Rodney rice was,
but shout out the combo guard.
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Rodney rice one of the highest
recruit ever signed, you know,
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top 65 player for Star, little
handle with him to get, you
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know, I think we'll be okay at
point guard.
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I think, obviously, It's like
somebody said it today and I
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wish I could remember who it
was.
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So if you said it in some of the
chats where in and more you said
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it on Twitter not trying to
steal them just like the point
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of it's just like the NBA
usually, whoever your backup
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point guard.
Is you're not doing the same
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things, you are with your start.
Yeah, I think that's the big
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thing especially with Rowdy rice
because that's going to give him
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some time to do what he does.
Well right now out the gate.
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Yep.
And as he develops, some of
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those, those finer skills that
he's going to be going to need
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to take over that more
full-fledged starting role
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sometime in the future for the
Hokies.
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Whether that be on the floor, at
the same time at the two guard
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or whether that be, you know,
being a true combo and running
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the point.
Point for a good portion of the
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game.
I don't think it might kind of
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system that there is a great
need for a capital P.
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Capital, G point guard sure,
it's definitely not that type of
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system.
So you having a guy like, like
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Rowdy rice is definitely kind of
a very good fit for this type of
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system.
Yep.
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And then, two guys, we mentioned
that earlier, you know, in the
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year about the transfers with
Poteet in Camden.
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I mean, obviously, Sleep OT.
It's going to give you that
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again your Center Off the Bench
who has played significant
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minutes.
You had some good size and then
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cannons kind of the unknown and
Kim and become that extra wing.
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And if he becomes that extra
Wing, you feel like you got
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Couture Mattox, and him, then
you've got Maddux could do Le
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and rice.
And then the Poteet Basile mutts
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and hopefully Camden kind of
coming that piece where you can
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maybe play a three wing.
You know, you take months out to
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get A breather you play Basile
Camden Couture Maddox.
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You play like a three wing type
you know, offensive game.
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Yeah so it's I said this earlier
and I'll say it again.
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I want to temper expectations
early because I think what's got
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to happen is similar to last
year.
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You've got to figure out where
the new pieces fit obviously.
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When we figured out how they
fit, what happened is, what
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happened?
But before that, you know, what
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did you say?
You think we're you feel like
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where we were last year is where
you think we should start this
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year, right?
I think the expectations we had
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pre season last year is where
they need to start this year.
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I think this is a top-to-bottom,
a deeper team than last year.
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I think it is going to take a
little bit of time for it to
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jail.
So I think the expectations at
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the start of last season, we're
probably a little high.
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Higher than they should have
been, considering what we had to
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do in the backcourt, in terms of
kind of kind of figuring out
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those rotations.
I think it's probably going to
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be a little bit of figuring out
those rotations, especially in
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the frontcourt this year, as we
replace two-thirds of that.
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And I think it's going to take
some time to find those, but I
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like the versatility of the line
of you can go bigger.
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You can go smaller and then you
can go Wing heavy.
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So you get a little bit of
everything, right?
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I like that, there is those
matchups.
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We can really work, matchups,
depending on The opponent's
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strengths and weaknesses.
There's some, there's some teams
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and we're going to play We're
Poteet.
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Might be the, the guy, the first
guy to start might be.
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This might be the the center you
want out there, but there's
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going to be, I'd say the
majority of the games, the seal
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is going to get the majority of
those minutes.
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I agree.
But I get I like the versatility
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that this gives us because
everybody off the bench has some
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degree of proven caliber play.
And that's what we didn't have
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last year at the start of the
Season proven caliber play.
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Way in niches niches teacher,
big banger get rebounds.
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Play hard defense.
If you know, you know, if you
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decide to have Couture, come off
the bench can handle can hit
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threes.
However.
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So, you know, when they come in,
they give you something versus
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like you said.
Last year, it was the unknown
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of.
What are they going to give us
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one other piece.
The basketball news that broke
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the saint confirmed.
He's going to Kansas State.
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I don't know if this was Is a
direct move in relation to
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months coming back.
If months doesn't come back,
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does this?
This on return?
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But best of luck to him going to
a pretty solid program out in
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case state so that will wrap up
the basketball segment.
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All right, we go from a high to
we gotta, we gotta go to a
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little low here, you know,
softball.
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You know, after the regional
weekend, where they went three
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games in 24 hours, which was
unbelievable.
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You know, being Kentucky, be
Miami of Ohio late night into
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Sunday morning and then back to
back against Kentucky.
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You know, the fuel was rocking.
The place was rocking our hotel,
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girl had herself a weekend.
And he did have a weekend,
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shout-out.
Mackenzie Lauder and then the
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Florida Gators role in town.
And essentially a, you know, top
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ten Team all year.
They got ranked 12th in the
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couple to filing polls Friday
night early, Saturday morning
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started off great, Hokies went
six nothing but from there it
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didn't, you know, ends in
heartbreak losing.
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Subsequently was a decent, start
to gain to a couple missed
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opportunities, a couple things.
Didn't quite go, the Hokies way,
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and then Florida capitalized and
closed out the game too.
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And it felt That was that was
the switch, right?
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Like, yeah, the way the game to
kind of ended it was, was
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foretelling of how the game on
Sunday was going to roll, right.
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I mean, so many times you see
that in in all sports, I mean in
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all sports.
You see it's the old, the old
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Avalanche effect, it starts and
then all of a sudden it tumbles.
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But for the program in general
Hello season.
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You know, in the season, ranked
top five Why do a lot of top?
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Eight teams.
We're losing.
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Not making it to Oklahoma City.
For the World Series in, you
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know what, what, what what's
really good in my opinion yet?
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We're losing killing right?
She's an All-American, you know,
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years ago and I cannot think who
was it?
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Another All-American picture.
Why is it blinking on me?
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You don't get that kind of all
every year.
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Now, what I will say is my
opinion, is this Emma.
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Emma has a chance to be to get
up in that upper echelon.
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Could you could she be he?
Richard I can't put that on but
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I think you've got your number
one going into next year.
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Where I don't think it's going
to be a slip from top five to
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completely out.
I think this team is going to be
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a top 20 team next year.
Yeah, yeah, it's definitely,
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that gives you some some promise
for what's going on in the
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future.
It's going to be nice to see how
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Emma develops.
Going into next year, especially
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with somewhat of a leadership
role probably put on her heading
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into next year, so, but I don't
think you see a steep ramp up
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with you.
I think it's going to be, you
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know, a step back.
I think it would be hard, not to
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say that there will be some step
back, I think losing healing in
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particular.
Just because of, you know how
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shut down.
She was from Canada, season
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isn't really the majority of
less your 23 years.
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Look at it that I think there's
going to be potentially some
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step back especially early in
the season but I think it's
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going to be alright I think I
think they're going to still be
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a competitive team next year and
looking forward to seeing what
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they do.
Again for bringing with me,
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let's roll from the softball
Diamond to the baseball diamond
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because after big Series wins
against Louisville against Duke
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to close out the regular season,
they lose in pool play, in the
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ACC tournament to eventual
Champion care.
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Carolina, I don't like pool play
format.
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I'll say that.
Because it, if you're one of the
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best four teams, it gives,
there's nothing there to be game
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where in reality, probably what
should happen and I'm harping on
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this, I didn't mention you this
earlier I was going to do it in
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reality.
The top four seeds should be
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waiting for Friday night.
And everybody else have to play
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to get there.
And then you go from 8 to 4 to 2
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and there's your championship
game.
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Not this, we're going to pull
play, no, you want to pull play
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the other eight teams and let
them figure out who can win, do
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it.
If you're one of the best four
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teams in the ACC, you should be
sitting Friday night with your
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one ready to play.
Yeah, I agree.
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I agree.
I think it's not the best
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format.
You know that I'm a big believer
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in the format that you play in
the regular season should be the
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format that kind of goes in the
postseason.
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But we talked about that a lot
with the email be wild card.
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And yes, I hate the fucking play
in games.
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Yes, you did.
I don't like pool play.
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I get why people.
People do like it or at least,
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you know, give it, give it some
some Credence there.
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But you should have more
Advantage as a top for see than,
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just the tiebreaker in the pool.
Yeah, that's yeah.
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Because it's two games.
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It's two games and usually,
they're starting midweek.
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So, if you're throwing your one,
you're throwing your one on a
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short rest for them.
So, you know, just get rid of
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that format top for because, you
know, not everybody makes it
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their team's always left out
because there's 12 teams.
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Usually, there are two or three
teams that do not get invited,
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put your, for let your other
eight played at the four best
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teams and then.
But anyway, let's digress from
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that a top eight seed.
Number four, seed in the
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country.
From where this baseball program
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was just a few years ago, to be
a national seed to have a
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Blacksburg Regional potential,
Super Regional.
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I mean, it's the right guy was
hired with makes another
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fantastic move.
And I mean in the world of
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baseball, the collegiate
baseball, if you can
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consistently get top aides, you
are a national powerhouse.
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It's a question.
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And I mean, this is very much
the, you know, like the 2004
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football team.
This team was not know, expected
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to do a whole lot.
I think they were picked to
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finish what next to last or last
next-to-last ACC.
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And here we are.
You had the best team in the
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regular season you had had.
It had a decent little run there
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in the championship and finished
up with the horsey for the
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region.
So I don't really think anybody
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could have expected more out of
this team and they really
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stepped up and shown that, you
know what?
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They've got going on there.
That the kind of the mix of
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players that they have and the
guys are bringing in, he is
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starting to turn to clip a
little bit, especially if they
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can get you.
Some steps up and pitching.
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If the pitching can be
consistent.
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I mean, the way, the way, the
way they knock the ball out of
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the park is just next level.
And I think they got a fairly
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favorable draw in their region,
release compared to some of the
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other ones out there.
So Yeah.
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What are you?
What's your thoughts on this
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pool of?
Well, for the region will write
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State.
We've already played this year
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and so we seeing what they have,
I'll have to pull up real quick.
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That record Colombia is
obviously the Ivy League school
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representation in and I don't
want to not those two teams
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because they did win their
conference.
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They did make it to the NCAA
tournament, but But I'll look,
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we look at this bracket.
It's Gonzaga in.
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That is your big problem because
Gonzaga legitimately has an ace
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and they are really good
pitching team, you know, under
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for totally are a for the whole
team and they're led by a guy by
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the name of Gabriel Hughes and
Hughes has a mid-90s guy with a,
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the reports are mid 90s guy with
a strikeout slider in with a
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changeup that runs at about 79.
He is intentionally and they're
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looking at in the Pro comparison
with Max Scherzer.
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Prediction is likely a top-15
pick, he's 64, he's 230 pounds.
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His biggest issue was control.
He's got his control under wraps
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in that shows this season where
he struck out 131 and he walked
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35.
Okay, so, so yeah, he wrote the
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consistency level there, but
here's the deal.
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In all likelihood, this team
will not see Gabriel Hughes
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because in the world of baseball
you roll the biggest dice.
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If you don't throw your a saint
game one and you know I'm gonna
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I'm gonna throw it here to local
because I heard this story a
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couple days ago about the
Regionals here in Richmond.
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Deep Run was playing Highland
Springs, VA, 89 yang.
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Deep Run, chose not to throw
their number one and apparently
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this kids really good like going
somewhere to play college
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because they were like we need
him for when we play the
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wannsee.
Guess what happened?
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They lost to Highland Springs.
They never got to throw their
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eggs.
So we probably won't see Gabriel
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cues but we likely you're
probably going to see a guy by
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the name of Owen wild.
Aiden 13.3 are a if they win
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Friday.
That's who we're probably going
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to look at Saturday but we seen
this team.
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Hit.
Good pitching?
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Yeah, yeah.
Big time.
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Six.
Again, that awful not terrible.
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Here's your big, here's your big
differential, 37 home runs.
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That is a massive gap between
110 the Hokies put up in
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something.
I was more shocked with and I
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brought this up to you a little
earlier today.
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We're not when we were looking
at their stats and I told Brian
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276.
Not a lot of Homer's your first
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thought was okay.
They're running team, then
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they've attempted less steals
than the Hokies Hokies what are
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the Hokies at steel?
Was you have that they're right.
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Where is my stolen bases.
So, the basic tips. 71 out of
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87.
This team has won 39 and 55.
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So they're not one of those
teams that is getting on base
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and trying to run you and a lot
of hit-and-runs clearly.
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So this, this isn't small bowl.
No.
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Just, they are what they are.
They are pitching team and Not
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seeing Hughes if they choose not
to if they choose to you know
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throw him Friday which they
should you know it's a hurdle to
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overcome and would you say Brian
five?
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If we score more than five runs
a game than they are.
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That's why I thought if we can
get 67 runs that should do it.
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And we're averaging over 80
close to eight runs a game.
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Yeah.
So if we can just get our
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average you should be able to
handle them pretty well.
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Also, I can't wait to see the
crowds out in Blacksburg the way
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they were with the softball team
last weekend.
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Definitely going to be a rock
and house for the baseball
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regionals there.
You know it, I'm assuming.
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Do we have a TV time yet?
For this one?
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I haven't seen it yet, but it's
got to be out there because they
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usually put that stuff out there
pretty quick.
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We're going to effort.
This will take it out in the
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post-production.
Laugh people, you get to see us
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stare at things Hang on.
We're coming.
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We're coming.
ESPN AC, oh my God you got to be
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kidding on acc Network, put it
on acc Network, 7:00 Friday
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night.
The network is good for
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something.
Took long enough that's so
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annoying.
Like you're like being Network
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Friday night 7:00.
So those who are going in town
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for that, probably going to have
two or three hours for little
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tailgate, maybe a little hidden
downtown up, so maybe more of a
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raucous crowd, but I definitely
think we see, Super Regionals,
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you probably already read.
You know, who were lined up to
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play against Super Regionals if
they win their Regional, the
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Florida Gators.
Let's get them on here.
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Let's get paid back, let's do
it.
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Let's do something else.
We want to hit real quick.
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You will just announced a few
weeks ago.
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Tim settle giving a significant
gift to the football program.
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I think it's awesome to see a
temp success.
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He's had in Washington sign on
his deal with Buffalo this year
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but also seen, you know, not
only him but obviously the
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Fuller's.
But seeing these guys who are
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coming I'm through make it in
the NFL turning back around in
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contributing to me there in the
precedent.
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For any guy who goes out, has a
good NFL career, give back to
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what made you got to love it.
Look, Tim and general.
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I mean, awesome guy.
Yeah, and I mean, I think you're
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some some of this is it's nice
to see guys that I said, at the
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time.
Hey.
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He dropped way too far in this
trap.
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He's going to show you something
in a couple years and he just
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one of those players.
I know Kendall Kendall was one
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of those players to be somewhat
he was able to do in in Casey
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and now with Washington again.
So, you know, good on them for
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forgiving back to the program
that they helped build.
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And you love to see it right
here.
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Love to see the guys that you
cheer for, you love to see their
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names on the building.
You love.
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See their names on the rooms.
I mean, it's just it's something
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that you can look back on those
days and say, yeah, hey, I saw
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him play back in the day, I saw
him play and he's doing big
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things here, and he's giving
back said, the president, he's
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really doing what you should be
doing.
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If you, you know what, if you
make it to that level, remember
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where you came from?
And no one had guy like Tim.
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I'm sure probably his hi School
is reap rewards on to his
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community up in Northern
Virginia, is recored with well.
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So big town, you know.
Obviously he's playing for the
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bills.
You can't root for him too hard.
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I can root form a little bit but
you know good for Tim Lee.
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She's not in divisions.
There you go.
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Alright, so one last piece
before we go to break, we want
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to hit on is obviously the
two-day trial.
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Came to an end this week.
He was found.
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Obviously, if you haven't heard
not guilty on second degree,
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murder charges.
No additional charges since you
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were brought up against him,
this is something.
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It was roughly a year old when
everything broke almost to the
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day, almost to the day.
We wanted to hit just a couple
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minutes of it.
Because it needed to be
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addressed to recruit.
He was a member of the Virginia
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Tech football team at that point
in time.
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And it's kind of one of those
things after we didn't say much
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on the year ago, because we knew
a lot of things are going to
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start coming out and in the
travel, a lot of things came
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out.
There was a lot of speculation
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out, the gate this time last
year, honey.
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And some of it we weren't sure
what was fact and what was
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fiction we wanted to wait until
everything came out before we
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had any sort of meaningful
Discussion on this thing.
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Yeah.
And I think we found out a lot
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at the trial and I think that
ultimately you know if the
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charge is murder to that the
ultimate the jury had to find
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him not guilty based on the
information.
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Yeah, that's what it was as the
evidence was being presented of
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everything that took place
between him and the deceased.
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In this case you started it
started stacking Enough.
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And as you started stacking up,
and you think about what murder
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to is you read the definition by
law.
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It's not murder too.
If potentially the attorney, the
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District Attorney's down, there
would have taken a different
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path.
Maybe there's a different
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outcome, but they didn't.
It wasn't murder to even if you
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take away the self defense
situation, right?
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Well, I think that think that
just sealed the deal on the
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whole thing.
Absolutely.
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Once there was evidence that
there a knife was present, then
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that really took it in a
completely different direction
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110%.
So that's closed.
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And, you know, whatever May
going in that young man's life
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from here on out, God bless him
and best of luck to him.
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And with that, before we get
into more topics tonight, we are
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going to take a Quick pause for
a message from our digital
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Now back to the episode All
right, Brian.
457
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,600
Let's get into some more
football and a lot of football
458
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,500
in the back half of this episode
here.
459
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:06,000
Let's start by taking a look at
a recent commitment. 2023
460
00:30:06,700 --> 00:30:13,100
football, the on the top 25
somehow ranked 22nd right now
461
00:30:13,500 --> 00:30:17,300
in, just, a few days ago, the
key, he thought of Highland
462
00:30:17,300 --> 00:30:23,000
Spring, then five foot nine
hundred sixty five pounds, He's
463
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:27,500
listed as an athlete, you know.
Definitely going to look M at
464
00:30:27,500 --> 00:30:33,200
wideout probably Corner commit.
He's a 3-star number 24 in
465
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:38,200
Virginia.
Would have you seen what have
466
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,600
you heard and what do you think
about mr.
467
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:44,900
Heath potential in Blackbird,
he's an athlete with a capital.
468
00:30:44,900 --> 00:30:49,400
A you said wide receiver.
You said corner but he's also
469
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,500
going to be a return specialist
for us.
470
00:30:51,500 --> 00:30:55,000
I believe.
So look for some of that either
471
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:59,200
out the gate or at least by year
to being a contributor there.
472
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,900
I think this is a good pick up
obviously you know you want to
473
00:31:02,900 --> 00:31:05,800
tap that Highland Springs tap as
Much as you can.
474
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,700
So I like it, I like I like
that.
475
00:31:10,700 --> 00:31:16,900
It's continuing the trend with
getting solid players from
476
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,400
reputable institutions in and
around the state.
477
00:31:21,700 --> 00:31:26,400
It's keeping that Trend going.
It's still not a.
478
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:31,900
You still haven't had that, you
know, blow your skirt up yet.
479
00:31:32,900 --> 00:31:36,200
But at the same time, nothing
but solid across the board.
480
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:42,200
Yeah, I'm hoping that as we go
into Camp season, which is what
481
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,200
we're about to talk about a
little bit more here.
482
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,300
Once we get more into Camp
season, we start seeing maybe at
483
00:31:47,300 --> 00:31:51,000
least one or two of those, you
know, bigger fish.
484
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,600
Start to start to come our way a
little bit.
485
00:31:54,900 --> 00:31:59,300
But right now I'd say this is a
good pickup, he's probably just
486
00:31:59,300 --> 00:32:05,700
below the hammer and and love it
in my book in terms of where
487
00:32:05,700 --> 00:32:09,400
they stack up in this class.
Yeah, I think it's a good
488
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:10,900
pickup.
All right?
489
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,700
Yeah.
I mean you just raised the
490
00:32:13,700 --> 00:32:18,000
question about when we're going
to get the big one like when
491
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,700
they're going to be that one
where everybody kind of the
492
00:32:20,700 --> 00:32:23,600
Great.
Has the eyebrow and also, I
493
00:32:23,608 --> 00:32:26,700
think about that but I also
wonder when is this regime going
494
00:32:26,700 --> 00:32:28,900
to break through down the 75 or
up and over?
495
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:34,500
Because right now it's been,
it's been Richmond kids.
496
00:32:35,100 --> 00:32:39,500
It's been, you know, Southwest
Virginia kids along with
497
00:32:39,500 --> 00:32:41,400
obviously the ones on the
out-of-state.
498
00:32:41,700 --> 00:32:44,300
So is there, anybody
potentially?
499
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:51,200
In the state of Virginia in the
75 in Nova where we can sit back
500
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:55,200
here and kind of say okay, yeah
that's going to be the
501
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,700
Breakthrough one and is it maybe
even not a breakthrough?
502
00:32:58,700 --> 00:33:01,500
Maybe not, you know, your high
for or a four-star guy.
503
00:33:01,500 --> 00:33:07,500
But is it from an institution?
That is known for rolling out?
504
00:33:07,500 --> 00:33:10,100
Continuous Prospect, that's why
it's nice to see the Highland
505
00:33:10,100 --> 00:33:15,000
Springs as why it's nice to see
a DeMatha, yeah.
506
00:33:15,100 --> 00:33:18,500
I think the thing to do is keep
your eyes on Phoebus and Oscar
507
00:33:18,500 --> 00:33:21,600
Smith, I think there's some
potential for us to make some
508
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:27,000
some headwinds there.
I think it Phoebus, probably
509
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,400
maybe there's a Target in this
class and I think an Oscar
510
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:31,900
Smith.
There's a Target in this class
511
00:33:31,900 --> 00:33:36,600
and the next class that could
potentially cause a little bit
512
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:40,000
of a shift there.
But I think when you talk about
513
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,200
Richmond compared to Nova and
757.
514
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:47,500
I think we released with the
last regime, sat better in
515
00:33:47,500 --> 00:33:53,700
Richmond, that we sat in 757 and
Noble and I think I think the
516
00:33:53,700 --> 00:33:58,500
reputation of Virginia Tech was
a lot more solid in the RV.
517
00:33:58,500 --> 00:34:03,800
A at the end of Wednesday's
regime than it was in the 75 and
518
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,100
Nova.
I think this is just again price
519
00:34:07,100 --> 00:34:09,199
talked about building those
bridges and repairing.
520
00:34:09,199 --> 00:34:12,300
Those things he had a lot more
work to do with Nova and a lot
521
00:34:12,300 --> 00:34:15,100
more work to do in the 75 than
the average Point.
522
00:34:15,199 --> 00:34:16,900
That's a day of the point to
make.
523
00:34:16,900 --> 00:34:20,400
Because at the end of that
regime, we were picking off some
524
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,000
kids from Richmond to flip at
the end.
525
00:34:23,100 --> 00:34:26,600
Look, the kid for it from a
teleca, getting some 7, getting
526
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,800
some Holland spring kids to walk
in.
527
00:34:29,500 --> 00:34:33,500
So I think like price said,
we've got to build
528
00:34:33,500 --> 00:34:38,100
relationships, we don't have
them here yet the sort of that
529
00:34:38,199 --> 00:34:43,000
when JC came in that kind of
Next map, completely fixed.
530
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:47,500
But put some duct tape and some
of the series on the
531
00:34:47,500 --> 00:34:51,699
relationship down in Richmond.
Definitely went or and obviously
532
00:34:51,699 --> 00:34:53,600
we're reaping a little bit of
the rewards from that.
533
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,199
Right now.
He brought the belt sander and
534
00:34:56,199 --> 00:34:59,300
smooth it out a little bit.
Be smooth that out a little bit
535
00:34:59,300 --> 00:35:03,000
and then Prime this regime along
JC, you know.
536
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,800
We feel good about Richmond,
Brian.
537
00:35:08,100 --> 00:35:12,900
If you did not see the news, I
think you Did the 25 recruiting
538
00:35:12,900 --> 00:35:17,900
Limit Out 2023 and 2024?
What do you think about that?
539
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,900
No limits.
It's better than nothing.
540
00:35:20,900 --> 00:35:25,000
I would have, honestly preferred
to have three to five more
541
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:29,500
scholarships tacked, onto the 85
then, for the next two years to
542
00:35:29,500 --> 00:35:32,900
be unlimited.
But in terms of how this affects
543
00:35:32,900 --> 00:35:38,500
us, I think we may not go over
25 in 23 big just because it is
544
00:35:38,500 --> 00:35:40,400
a rebuilding year.
Yeah.
545
00:35:40,700 --> 00:35:43,400
We'll probably not sitting the
best with some of the more
546
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:47,900
higher caliber players are
classes going to be mostly
547
00:35:48,300 --> 00:35:51,200
mid-to-high three stars.
Anyway, it's not going to have a
548
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:57,400
ton of four stars, but I think
in 24 when we're under 85 really
549
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:02,000
well at that point and we're
starting to make some Headway in
550
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,100
the state and around our
footprint a little bit more
551
00:36:05,100 --> 00:36:08,300
where we're established.
I think that's when you take a
552
00:36:08,300 --> 00:36:10,300
shot and load up as much in the
boat.
553
00:36:10,500 --> 00:36:13,400
As you can because, you know,
you'll be able to get
554
00:36:14,300 --> 00:36:17,000
essentially all of those spores
that you're targeting.
555
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,700
And then all of those threes
that are in that, you know,
556
00:36:20,700 --> 00:36:24,900
hiring three rains that you're
targeting, then make some some
557
00:36:24,900 --> 00:36:28,900
business decisions on the back
in with those mid to low three
558
00:36:28,900 --> 00:36:31,500
star kids.
Yeah.
559
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:36,200
Well the whole thing that this
year, you say no the only way
560
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,400
this year, you can get that bump
is if you win.
561
00:36:40,500 --> 00:36:46,000
Like if you if you tell me if
your tell me, you're thinking 67
562
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:50,400
wins, I think, with our
schedule, we can get six and I
563
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:56,300
think I think six is enough to
roll into 24 with with a little
564
00:36:56,300 --> 00:37:00,100
bit of momentum.
I go, mr.
565
00:37:00,100 --> 00:37:02,800
Brightside.
Let's say, print pride comes in
566
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:07,200
and wins nine games, can he
attacked when we attack 23 more,
567
00:37:07,500 --> 00:37:10,200
because then you're talking
about, it's a regime change.
568
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:14,000
It's a it is a coaching staff
that can recruit better and
569
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,400
you're coming out year one and
winning nine games going to a
570
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,300
solid Bowl.
Obviously, if you're doing that
571
00:37:20,300 --> 00:37:22,200
their players producing on the
field.
572
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,700
Well, I guess the question is
going to be, can you, is there
573
00:37:26,700 --> 00:37:29,600
going to be enough players left
at the end of this cycle?
574
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:33,900
Once you get Results on the
board to really make some, some
575
00:37:33,900 --> 00:37:38,300
late season flips and if you are
able to do that, is there enough
576
00:37:38,300 --> 00:37:42,100
that still keeps you under 85?
Because more than likely we're
577
00:37:42,100 --> 00:37:44,900
going to use that one
scholarship open that we have.
578
00:37:45,500 --> 00:37:48,500
I would say to fill in at least
one need position before the
579
00:37:48,500 --> 00:37:55,500
start of fall came.
Maybe um because obviously
580
00:37:55,500 --> 00:38:00,000
you've already mentioned it, you
know it we're June 1st, there's
581
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,700
been no discussion of additional
scholarships from the NCAA.
582
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,600
We thought it would be like
three to five just to help teens
583
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:13,600
out, but it's not hurting teams.
It's hurting kids, they're going
584
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,100
to be a lot of kids that don't
have don't have a home.
585
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:21,000
They're basically screwing the
student-athlete great job into a
586
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,500
Screw student-athletes.
That's what we're here for
587
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,100
versus.
If you give three to five, open
588
00:38:27,100 --> 00:38:33,100
scholarships to every team.
What's that a minimum of 400
589
00:38:33,100 --> 00:38:36,400
additional kids in the portal
would find homes because they
590
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,200
would find homes?
Yes.
591
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,700
Oh, what is?
He double A decided to do is
592
00:38:40,700 --> 00:38:47,000
that they said, okay well we
understand that the situation we
593
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,700
put them in with the covid year
and then having no relief is
594
00:38:50,700 --> 00:38:55,700
going To put pressure on the
Freshman incoming classes, we're
595
00:38:55,700 --> 00:38:59,200
going to give them some relief.
So most of freshmen that would
596
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,100
have found homes.
Normally are still going to find
597
00:39:02,100 --> 00:39:05,100
homes, but we're literally going
to fuck anybody that wanted to
598
00:39:05,100 --> 00:39:08,300
give the portal.
Yeah, that is in a high-caliber
599
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:13,600
front, front end, immediate
starter, at most power, 5,
600
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:17,000
institution type player.
Yeah, developmental players is
601
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,300
where it's true.
Yeah.
602
00:39:18,700 --> 00:39:20,800
In the thing, is with
developmental players, you had
603
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,400
three, 25, every school will
take a swing.
604
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:28,300
And a kid, every school would
take a swing at three to five
605
00:39:28,300 --> 00:39:32,700
kids to get on their roster just
to be like, he has potential.
606
00:39:32,700 --> 00:39:34,300
What if we're the guys that
unlock it?
607
00:39:36,100 --> 00:39:39,300
They are so it's such an enough
Institute.
608
00:39:39,300 --> 00:39:42,500
I don't want to go into a TWA
continues to have their head up
609
00:39:42,500 --> 00:39:45,700
their own ass.
Oh that's not that's not going
610
00:39:45,700 --> 00:39:50,400
to change until I see definitive
proof.
611
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,500
I'm going to completely continue
to shit all over them.
612
00:39:54,600 --> 00:40:02,300
They are a awful governing body
especially when it comes to the
613
00:40:02,300 --> 00:40:05,900
things that ironically make them
the most money.
614
00:40:07,100 --> 00:40:09,200
Exactly.
All right.
615
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:16,300
Let's put the this Brian being
used last week broke for shop
616
00:40:16,300 --> 00:40:21,100
for now on the Highland Springs
defensive lineman D, committing,
617
00:40:21,300 --> 00:40:27,700
after Simon has Loi.
There is so many things not
618
00:40:27,700 --> 00:40:32,900
adding up to this story.
I mean, every you want to know
619
00:40:32,900 --> 00:40:37,200
why, because when he committed
about Days.
620
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,500
Prior to this announcement of be
commitment.
621
00:40:39,500 --> 00:40:43,400
I mean he was literally one of
the first guys that was on his
622
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,500
post.
Oh yeah.
623
00:40:45,900 --> 00:40:49,900
I mean like you said as of just
a few days before this went down
624
00:40:50,900 --> 00:40:53,900
he was he was retweeting and
saying, welcome home brother,
625
00:40:53,900 --> 00:40:57,100
and all this other stuff.
So obviously whatever has
626
00:40:57,100 --> 00:41:03,000
happened was something that
either was unforeseen or was
627
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:08,700
something that somebody thought
somebody was doing something and
628
00:41:08,700 --> 00:41:15,000
they weren't we've had Whispers
and stuff on the timeline about
629
00:41:15,700 --> 00:41:18,300
the off.
The field stuff playing a role
630
00:41:18,300 --> 00:41:20,300
here.
We don't know what it is.
631
00:41:20,300 --> 00:41:22,100
I'm not going to speculate what
it is.
632
00:41:23,100 --> 00:41:29,200
Yeah, we don't see it seems like
that is the why I'm not specific
633
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:33,400
here but generally that's the
why I think the what's next is
634
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:38,300
what's most important is it
Point, this isn't a prior regime
635
00:41:38,300 --> 00:41:41,200
failure here.
This is just one of those things
636
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:45,700
that happens.
So well the what's next is this
637
00:41:45,700 --> 00:41:49,900
is just a gray shirt, is he, is
he going to Juco for a year?
638
00:41:50,500 --> 00:41:51,900
He said his approval is still
open.
639
00:41:51,900 --> 00:41:57,800
I don't know if that is if If
we, if he at this point, I don't
640
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,100
know if we've read about it as
Lor we haven't gotten official
641
00:42:00,100 --> 00:42:04,600
word on that.
Yeah, this point if we have and
642
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:08,500
some other institution wants to
pick him up and I guess it's
643
00:42:08,500 --> 00:42:12,700
free game, but otherwise this
looks like a potential Juco and
644
00:42:12,700 --> 00:42:14,800
then we kind of make
potentially, keep our
645
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:19,100
relationship with them and try
to Circle back for for the next
646
00:42:19,100 --> 00:42:22,300
class here.
Yeah, it's going to be very key
647
00:42:22,300 --> 00:42:26,100
of what he does, whether it's a
prep or giucose, You we don't
648
00:42:26,100 --> 00:42:29,300
see a lot of guys prep anymore,
but depending on what the
649
00:42:29,300 --> 00:42:34,400
situation is, if you see him go
prep, I fully expect him to come
650
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:39,800
back to Tech if he goes Juco.
That's usually a little longer
651
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,900
rap because if you're going
Juco, it's almost a two-year
652
00:42:42,900 --> 00:42:45,600
commitment.
It would you co school and then
653
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,500
getting two years at your
four-year institution.
654
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:53,100
So what in the oncoming days and
obviously we'll be following
655
00:42:53,100 --> 00:42:55,000
this when he makes a decision of
what.
656
00:42:55,200 --> 00:43:00,700
Going to do next year but it's
just it kind of hurts your heart
657
00:43:00,700 --> 00:43:06,500
because he is under the radar.
He is one of those Team guys and
658
00:43:06,500 --> 00:43:09,400
you love when he committed it,
even though he's always been
659
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,400
kind of the tweener.
Was he going to be a big end?
660
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,300
Is he going to play?
You know?
661
00:43:14,300 --> 00:43:17,900
Undersized 3.
You felt like he was going to
662
00:43:17,900 --> 00:43:23,300
have success here and now it's
back seated at a position of
663
00:43:23,300 --> 00:43:26,700
need.
Where if he Comes into Tech over
664
00:43:26,700 --> 00:43:28,700
the summer, gets on the way
program.
665
00:43:29,700 --> 00:43:33,700
We figure out his body type in 6
months he could be potentially
666
00:43:33,700 --> 00:43:37,500
helping out next year.
So it stinks on every single
667
00:43:37,500 --> 00:43:42,100
front from, you know, just a
personal standpoint of liking a
668
00:43:42,100 --> 00:43:46,400
kid and then from a standpoint
of football saying this guy,
669
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,600
potentially could have helped
the team in 2024 as a depth
670
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:53,500
piece in years down the road.
Yeah, I mean, you know, we
671
00:43:53,500 --> 00:43:57,600
talked glowingly about, Ishod
Purnell on this podcast is one
672
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:01,700
of our favorite recruits from
this class so this isn't
673
00:44:01,700 --> 00:44:03,700
something that we're saying are
we doesn't matter.
674
00:44:03,700 --> 00:44:10,500
He definitely matters and not
just because he's a potential as
675
00:44:10,500 --> 00:44:16,600
a true freshman of potential 3D
that either your defensive in or
676
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,600
playing three technique there.
That's not, that's not the only
677
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,800
thing that we're talking about
here, we're talking about its
678
00:44:22,900 --> 00:44:25,500
This is just a player that the
type of player that you want to
679
00:44:25,500 --> 00:44:29,100
have on your team, from a
leadership perspective and the
680
00:44:29,100 --> 00:44:33,100
way he was recruiting other
players to come to Blacksburg.
681
00:44:33,700 --> 00:44:35,400
That's the type of player you
want on your roster.
682
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,500
Full, stop always.
So it definitely hurts anybody
683
00:44:38,500 --> 00:44:44,900
saying otherwise, you know,
You're lying to yourself.
684
00:44:44,900 --> 00:44:47,500
I mean, it still, if it's a big
move I just don't think it
685
00:44:47,500 --> 00:44:52,000
necessarily is something that we
can really dwell on because it's
686
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,100
not really anything that the
program could have done
687
00:44:54,100 --> 00:44:56,200
differently to stop this from
happening.
688
00:44:56,900 --> 00:45:00,000
Exactly.
All right, let's flip this.
689
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:04,800
It's that if the title of our
episode Camp season in buddy, do
690
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:09,600
they have them in Blacksburg
this month seven camps?
691
00:45:09,700 --> 00:45:13,300
Basically, from now until I
think the 26th, Is the last one
692
00:45:13,300 --> 00:45:18,300
or 27, that is a lot of camps in
a short period of time and then
693
00:45:18,300 --> 00:45:26,100
one additional one in July.
You know this is this is what it
694
00:45:26,100 --> 00:45:28,700
was pre kovin.
This is what we saw every year.
695
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:35,000
Yeah so this is the return of
what I think a lot of us have
696
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:39,600
been missing about the offseason
is Yap like this where you get
697
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:43,500
guys on campus?
A lot of the time were come out
698
00:45:43,500 --> 00:45:48,100
see how they do get a lot of
some offers Throne that weren't
699
00:45:48,100 --> 00:45:50,500
committable all of a sudden our
and you get a bunch of people in
700
00:45:50,500 --> 00:45:57,100
the boat at one Yeah, you get
these these guys that you know,
701
00:45:57,100 --> 00:45:59,400
you were on the fence but they
get to Blacksburg.
702
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,500
They enjoy that good time.
The camp and all of a sudden, a
703
00:46:02,500 --> 00:46:06,200
guy that was a Penn State or
UNC, lean is now committed to
704
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,500
Virginia Tech, that's the type
of shit we like to see.
705
00:46:09,500 --> 00:46:12,200
That's the type of shit that I
hope we see in the coming weeks
706
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,200
and I'm looking forward to it.
I'm really always.
707
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:19,200
This is one of my favorite times
is kind of seeing how this plays
708
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,400
out on the recruiting Trail.
So I'm looking forward to to
709
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,200
June and and what we're able to
accomplish.
710
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,900
Hopefully on the recruiting
Trail 100%.
711
00:46:26,900 --> 00:46:30,100
And you mentioned it already.
Like I always think it's always
712
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,400
like I'm thinking right now. 23
sleepers, there's probably some
713
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,800
low rated three star that's
going to get to the camp and at
714
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,100
these camps are a lot of times
there's Rivals.
715
00:46:39,100 --> 00:46:42,300
There's two four seven Riders,
there's evaluators for them.
716
00:46:42,300 --> 00:46:45,100
They're right.
There's guys on getting height
717
00:46:45,100 --> 00:46:48,700
weight clocking looking how they
did on shuttle drills, how they
718
00:46:48,700 --> 00:46:51,200
perform in these activities we
don't want to know.
719
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:55,200
Yes, yes, we do.
For those who are really
720
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,900
interested in a camp, our
episode.
721
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:02,800
It's June 23rd of last year with
Coach, Robbie something you want
722
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:04,100
to know what goes on inside
these camps.
723
00:47:04,100 --> 00:47:08,000
Listen to that episode beginning
in because it is a great
724
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,900
knowledge point of what happens.
But you sit here and I'm sitting
725
00:47:11,900 --> 00:47:15,900
here thinking, there's going to
be some kid that's on our radar.
726
00:47:16,700 --> 00:47:20,500
Maybe an in-state kid that we
really want heavy, he gets down
727
00:47:21,300 --> 00:47:27,100
He blows Camp up.
And actually coach come thing.
728
00:47:27,100 --> 00:47:29,700
Yep, there it goes right there.
It's who's going to camp for
729
00:47:29,700 --> 00:47:31,000
free?
That's who to watch.
730
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:35,200
I don't know how we can
determine that Robbie you and I
731
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:40,700
will find out.
But but who's the sleeper, who's
732
00:47:40,700 --> 00:47:43,900
the kid who they thought was?
511 is actually 62.
733
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,500
Who's the kid?
They thought was 170 s actually
734
00:47:46,500 --> 00:47:49,100
190.
Who's the kid?
735
00:47:49,100 --> 00:47:52,700
That's got more muscle mass
because a lot of these kids have
736
00:47:52,700 --> 00:47:56,000
not been seen in six to eight
months and now they're going to
737
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,500
start being seen again.
Now, you mentioned it though,
738
00:47:59,500 --> 00:48:02,100
these kids have only been seen
in past and they haven't been
739
00:48:02,100 --> 00:48:04,800
seen up close and personal.
So that's really something else
740
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,000
too.
I'll never forget.
741
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:11,500
Give me invite up to UVA.
And Ron Prince telling me that I
742
00:48:11,500 --> 00:48:17,200
look bigger and pads Fuck him
till this day.
743
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,400
Yeah, Ibis.
I must look bigger and pads.
744
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,800
Fuck you.
But it's also Brian mentioned,
745
00:48:26,900 --> 00:48:30,400
getting a kid on campus that
potentially may be texting the
746
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:34,800
top five and you can get them in
and closing flip them, but it's
747
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,200
also a great chance now come by
building relationships.
748
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,400
We've heard it from Brent pry,
the whole time.
749
00:48:40,900 --> 00:48:46,100
Getting the jump on 24, we're
behind Prize already admitted
750
00:48:46,100 --> 00:48:49,200
that, but having these camps and
having these younger kids come
751
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:53,200
in quicker, way to get that
relationship built is having
752
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,200
them in house and having your
staff.
753
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,500
You know that we feel is
significantly better than what
754
00:48:59,500 --> 00:49:03,800
we had get in there ear and show
them things and, you know,
755
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,200
preach what we want here at
Virginia Tech.
756
00:49:09,100 --> 00:49:11,900
Yeah, like I said, I think this
is a, this is a good time to
757
00:49:11,900 --> 00:49:14,300
find those sleepers guys that
are bigger than you thought.
758
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,800
I think the bigger thing for me
is that, you know, I want to see
759
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:22,700
us some of the bigger names that
we've been targeting on this
760
00:49:22,700 --> 00:49:26,500
trail that you talked about
earlier, won't be, get that big
761
00:49:26,500 --> 00:49:29,600
fish.
Here's where you get those guys
762
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:33,700
on campus in an environment with
a lot of other guys and they
763
00:49:33,700 --> 00:49:36,800
start selling the program to
themselves, right?
764
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,500
I mean there's going to be other
players that have already
765
00:49:38,500 --> 00:49:40,100
committed.
They're coming to these Cancers
766
00:49:40,100 --> 00:49:43,300
and the other players that have
a heavy interest in Virginia
767
00:49:43,300 --> 00:49:46,600
Tech that are going to sell it.
Sell this thing for you a little
768
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:50,500
bit, once you get everybody in
one area, let's close some of
769
00:49:50,500 --> 00:49:53,400
those bigger fish.
Let's get maybe a flip here and
770
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:58,600
there of guys that are leaning
to other schools and get a
771
00:49:58,607 --> 00:50:01,000
little bit of momentum, I think
we're doing pretty well on the
772
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:04,700
recruiting Trail overall, but I
want to see more of those High
773
00:50:04,700 --> 00:50:08,200
threes and maybe low four stars
in this class.
774
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,100
I'd like to see A couple of them
thrown in there too, so we can
775
00:50:11,100 --> 00:50:13,300
get a little momentum carried
into next year.
776
00:50:14,300 --> 00:50:17,200
I know we're behind this year.
Everybody knows we're behind
777
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,100
this year at the same time.
We got to start winning some of
778
00:50:20,100 --> 00:50:23,800
these winnable battles so we can
start climbing the ladder a
779
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:27,600
little bit exactly.
Alright Brawn.
780
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:35,300
So Every year cbs4, the puts
together, their top 65.
781
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:40,700
Power five, coaches.
You guys don't recall.
782
00:50:40,900 --> 00:50:44,800
Last year we actually run.
We did ours.
783
00:50:44,900 --> 00:50:47,800
We talked about our opt-in
coaches fun to do.
784
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:51,100
It's fun to discuss.
Usually the guy that does it is
785
00:50:51,100 --> 00:50:53,900
time for Nellie and I'll say
this comp or Nelly is one of my
786
00:50:53,900 --> 00:50:56,100
favorite college football
writers out there.
787
00:50:56,500 --> 00:51:00,200
He is, is he comes at it with a
very different approach.
788
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,700
He's a really intelligent guy,
he lives up in Big Ten country
789
00:51:03,700 --> 00:51:08,600
so he doesn't have You know he's
I think he's an Illinois grad or
790
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,400
he likes Illinois or that's the
closest team doing good.
791
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:15,200
Have the automatic SEC buys he
might have subconscious as
792
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:20,500
exactly.
So he came up with the list this
793
00:51:20,500 --> 00:51:24,000
year and I pulled it up and he
only did his top 25 first and
794
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:27,300
it's the it's the normal stuff
and you know but then he
795
00:51:27,300 --> 00:51:33,200
released 26 265 just a few days
ago and of course I clicked on
796
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,200
it because I wanted to see his
thoughts on Brent.
797
00:51:35,300 --> 00:51:37,400
Fry.
Well.
798
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:46,800
I'm still a fan but Tom Fornelli
ranked Brent price 65 of 65 in.
799
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:50,400
This is what he put on him and
not some of the other guys were
800
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,900
going to discuss here.
I have a simple rule for filling
801
00:51:53,900 --> 00:51:55,700
out my ballot.
If you've never been a head
802
00:51:55,700 --> 00:51:58,500
coach before, you're starting at
the bottom of my rankings.
803
00:51:58,700 --> 00:52:01,400
That's not true.
We'll discuss that in a second.
804
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:05,100
Many of my fellow voters feel
the same, so price shouldn't
805
00:52:05,100 --> 00:52:09,300
take it personally as the new
head, man at Virginia Tech for
806
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,300
Pears to begin his first season
as a head coach at any level.
807
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:15,900
All right.
Okay cool.
808
00:52:16,700 --> 00:52:20,100
Now there are six guys on here
that are first-time head
809
00:52:20,100 --> 00:52:21,800
coaches.
In addition to Brent fry.
810
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:26,100
That we're going to talk about
the first three.
811
00:52:26,100 --> 00:52:29,400
I have absolutely no issue with
where they're ranked and that
812
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,100
they're ranked ahead of a front
pry.
813
00:52:31,500 --> 00:52:34,800
You just lick before, we get to
the veins, let me throw a caveat
814
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:40,200
out here.
This isn't a ranking of baseball
815
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:43,500
on the roster makeup or based on
the roster town are based on
816
00:52:43,500 --> 00:52:47,500
this that and the third this is
literally just based on what
817
00:52:47,500 --> 00:52:51,900
this coach has done in the past
where they are ranked right now.
818
00:52:52,300 --> 00:52:54,700
Has nothing to Do what their
current year, roster makeup or
819
00:52:54,707 --> 00:53:00,100
any of that shit.
So, with that being the, the
820
00:53:00,100 --> 00:53:02,800
parameters, I'll let Curtis
continue here.
821
00:53:03,100 --> 00:53:07,900
All right, there for guys are
tuning, three guys that do the
822
00:53:07,900 --> 00:53:10,200
pedigree of the coach and where
they landed.
823
00:53:10,300 --> 00:53:13,300
I have absolutely no issue with
wear their rank or that they're
824
00:53:13,300 --> 00:53:18,100
ranked had a Brent pry.
One is Brent, venables venables
825
00:53:18,100 --> 00:53:20,100
has been one of the best
defensive coordinators over the
826
00:53:20,100 --> 00:53:22,200
last 10 years in college
football.
827
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:24,900
He's ranked 45th.
No issue.
828
00:53:25,300 --> 00:53:29,500
Also, Tom you put somebody way
really high as a first-year head
829
00:53:29,500 --> 00:53:31,300
coach.
So you're not living by your own
830
00:53:31,300 --> 00:53:34,200
rules.
Sexy venables could have been
831
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:39,500
higher if some of the Oklahoma's
best talent had a trip out to
832
00:53:39,500 --> 00:53:41,800
Southern Cal but he still got
top 15.
833
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,800
Yeah he's exactly, but I'm
saying, he could have been top
834
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:48,700
40 if he did lose a decent
portion of his down.
835
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:53,000
I'm the second is Marcus Freeman
at Notre Dame I have no issue
836
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:56,300
with them being there with his
credentials coaching there last
837
00:53:56,300 --> 00:53:58,700
year.
No issue with him being there.
838
00:53:59,700 --> 00:54:01,300
I have no issue with the
Georgia.
839
00:54:01,300 --> 00:54:04,000
Defensive coordinator, Dan
Landing, who went up to Oregon
840
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:05,600
at 54.
No issue.
841
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,800
You've been, you know,
coordinator Georgia won the
842
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,100
National Championship.
He's going to a pretty much
843
00:54:11,100 --> 00:54:16,600
about a top-10 roster.
No issues, no issue.
844
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,600
So I'm cool with those guys.
But again, we're not supposed to
845
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:25,200
pay no attention to the roster.
So I don't know how I feel like
846
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,100
the rankings are paying
attention to the roster even
847
00:54:28,100 --> 00:54:31,200
though they're saying they're
not on their parenting to the
848
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:34,700
roster and where they go.
Well, you would think that but
849
00:54:34,700 --> 00:54:39,900
then, you know, we go here.
These are my three issues and
850
00:54:39,900 --> 00:54:44,600
we're going to start at number
62 and it's Joey McGuire.
851
00:54:45,100 --> 00:54:52,300
No, John McGuire is Brian.
I do now makes this technique
852
00:54:52,300 --> 00:54:54,700
Texas Tech head coach you got
hard really early in the
853
00:54:54,700 --> 00:54:56,700
process?
I think he was the first guy
854
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:00,500
now.
You know, Fornelli puts on here
855
00:55:00,500 --> 00:55:04,400
about how excited the fans are,
as he has High School
856
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:05,800
connections in the state of
Texas.
857
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:10,200
But basically up until 2017 he
was a high school football coach
858
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:13,000
in Texas.
The last five years.
859
00:55:13,500 --> 00:55:16,200
He's been a coach not a
coordinator.
860
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:21,000
And associate head coach at
Baylor under Matt ruin.
861
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:25,700
Dave Aranda, Brian, how long has
Brent pry?
862
00:55:25,900 --> 00:55:31,800
Coached Collegiate football.
A lot longer than Joey McGwire
863
00:55:32,500 --> 00:55:36,700
Galloping.
So you sit here and it's like,
864
00:55:36,900 --> 00:55:40,000
yeah, Joey's, a good recruiter,
but Joey's coached at the
865
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:44,300
highest level of Collegiate
football for five years and he
866
00:55:44,300 --> 00:55:50,900
wasn't even a coordinator who
says 26 years to do you count
867
00:55:50,900 --> 00:55:54,200
his GA time or the time he was
at East Prosper with East.
868
00:55:55,200 --> 00:56:02,500
The the D to school before he
came to GAA. 29. 29 years.
869
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:07,800
So there's my first issue.
This is his first head coach
870
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:11,100
job, just as Brent Pride, he is
coach for five years.
871
00:56:11,100 --> 00:56:13,400
He's never ran.
He's not a particular coach.
872
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:17,000
He is a recruiting coach he's
just been two years younger than
873
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:18,800
Pride.
He's only yeah, two years young
874
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:22,700
and pie.
He also is going to Lubbock,
875
00:56:23,300 --> 00:56:26,600
there's been two people that had
success at Texas Tech Spike
876
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:31,900
Dykes and Mike Leach no one else
has had success at Texas Tech in
877
00:56:31,900 --> 00:56:38,100
the last 35 years.
So minimal time is a high as a
878
00:56:38,107 --> 00:56:42,300
Collegiate coach going to a
program that has only had two
879
00:56:42,300 --> 00:56:46,600
good runs of success.
In recruiting against the likes
880
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:51,500
of Brent, venables, against
Texas, A&M against Texas against
881
00:56:51,500 --> 00:56:55,900
LSU against Arkansas.
He's 62 them.
882
00:56:58,500 --> 00:57:05,200
Prime.
Yeah, I really don't have.
883
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:13,600
I put him dead last because of
coaching me was file is based on
884
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:17,500
cozy experience and pedigree of
program dead fucking last.
885
00:57:18,100 --> 00:57:22,300
Now the next guy who is one spot
ahead, is the one you really
886
00:57:22,300 --> 00:57:27,500
went off on today and that's
Mike Elko who is going to do
887
00:57:28,300 --> 00:57:33,200
Elko, basically started really
guided his flame going at Wake
888
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,100
Forest.
Had a good defense there.
889
00:57:35,100 --> 00:57:37,100
Went to Notre Dame.
Good.
890
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:41,500
Offensive coordinator there.
And then he went to Texas, A&M
891
00:57:41,500 --> 00:57:45,100
with Jimbo and put together.
Good defense.
892
00:57:45,100 --> 00:57:48,400
They're not world-beater, but a
good defense.
893
00:57:49,700 --> 00:57:54,300
He's going to do.
Elko has not coached as long as
894
00:57:54,300 --> 00:57:58,200
pry.
But Brian going because you were
895
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:01,600
on a soliloquy earlier today
like how badly people might go
896
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:03,800
ahead of him.
Number one, he's into
897
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:07,400
automatically automatically
should put him Below.
898
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:11,900
Virginia Tech number two, he's
coming from Texas A&M.
899
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:16,000
He has a defense that in the
time that they were sharing
900
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,000
defensive coordinator rolls per
I had better.
901
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:22,000
Overall defense has.
Let's also talk about how Texas
902
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:25,500
A&M is essential to UNC of the
fucking suc.
903
00:58:26,300 --> 00:58:28,800
And yeah, they can recruit.
Yeah, they get all this talent
904
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,300
but they don't do shit with a
twins.
905
00:58:32,700 --> 00:58:38,400
I mean.
Texas A&M has not one shit, at
906
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:41,600
least, brick cry.
And our buddy, James Franklin
907
00:58:42,500 --> 00:58:44,800
have done something in the Big
Ten.
908
00:58:44,900 --> 00:58:46,900
They want me to be know how to
State.
909
00:58:47,100 --> 00:58:50,300
They believe they've done the
things that you want a team to
910
00:58:50,300 --> 00:58:55,400
do.
So I mean I just pedigree wise I
911
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:58,600
don't think what Elko did it?
Texas A&M was any more
912
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:04,100
impressive than what Pride did
at Penn State and I think that
913
00:59:04,500 --> 00:59:06,600
cry He's at the better program
right now.
914
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:10,800
Yeah.
And that's that's no bias but if
915
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:13,900
you can present bias to this
I'll gladly listen to it.
916
00:59:13,900 --> 00:59:15,900
But Duke is not a better
football program.
917
00:59:15,900 --> 00:59:18,300
The Virginia Tech.
Know.
918
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:26,900
So and even in our worst we blew
the last year we were so.
919
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:32,400
So so please, you know, in the
bullshit there, you know, and I
920
00:59:32,408 --> 00:59:40,200
know it's one spot. but,
Motherfucker, you 64 Brin price
921
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:45,500
should be at least one spot
ahead of him in 63, which 63 is
922
00:59:45,500 --> 00:59:48,200
dickered from Washington who I
did put on here because the guy
923
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,300
Coast, half a season, had a good
record.
924
00:59:50,500 --> 00:59:52,300
He should have been
significantly further down the
925
00:59:52,300 --> 00:59:55,100
list.
That's my opinion, but he's
926
00:59:55,100 --> 01:00:02,200
going from Notre Dame and am to
preferable, top, 10 recruiting
927
01:00:02,300 --> 01:00:05,300
getting a lot of talent programs
to do.
928
01:00:05,300 --> 01:00:08,600
He's going back to his Wait days
where his best defense was 46,
929
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:12,500
which for Wake is very good,
he's very good.
930
01:00:13,500 --> 01:00:19,300
So what you're telling me is
he's going to have Duke, oh it's
931
01:00:19,300 --> 01:00:20,800
coming.
It's coming.
932
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,400
Put that on the screen, it's
coming.
933
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:30,500
So At least one spot ahead of
might go join McGuire at the end
934
01:00:30,500 --> 01:00:34,400
because Jordan choir hadn't have
the thing now, last but not
935
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:37,500
least.
Tony Elliott.
936
01:00:39,300 --> 01:00:45,900
Tony Pony.
So it will never die, its 60th,
937
01:00:45,900 --> 01:00:49,200
they will never die.
So basically this is the thing,
938
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,600
the longtime Clemson offensive
coordinator finally gets his
939
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:54,200
chance to run the show on his
own.
940
01:00:54,500 --> 01:00:56,700
Elliott has coaching great
players in his time with the
941
01:00:56,700 --> 01:01:01,400
Tigers and he thinks Virginia is
the perfect place to take
942
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:03,800
commands.
He inherits an offensive, scored
943
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:07,100
a lot of points last season.
His offense last season didn't
944
01:01:07,100 --> 01:01:10,700
score, a lot of points as an
offensive coordinator, and they
945
01:01:10,700 --> 01:01:12,400
haven't scored a lot of points
since Trevor's.
946
01:01:12,500 --> 01:01:17,900
Last year.
My issue again with the Virginia
947
01:01:17,900 --> 01:01:23,100
thing in toning was a CO o see
when they want a national
948
01:01:23,100 --> 01:01:25,300
championship with Jeff Scott so
he was a coating.
949
01:01:25,300 --> 01:01:28,300
See not the full time OC.
Jeff Scott obviously went South
950
01:01:28,300 --> 01:01:30,300
Florida.
That's really ugly.
951
01:01:30,300 --> 01:01:34,400
He's probably getting fired in
October and let's see well the
952
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:37,900
miracle out.
But again, I look at this and
953
01:01:37,900 --> 01:01:42,800
it's like, okay, he's had, he's
not coached as long but he's had
954
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:45,800
more success.
So, if you want to put them
955
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:49,400
ahead that's fine in that case,
but I look at where he's going.
956
01:01:50,700 --> 01:01:53,000
I also look at the regimes
around them.
957
01:01:55,100 --> 01:01:58,400
Do brown.
You said it to me earlier today.
958
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:02,300
Who are their best tires?
I mean, their best hires were,
959
01:02:02,300 --> 01:02:05,900
there were tensions, keeping
Hagen's and keeping 2J where
960
01:02:05,900 --> 01:02:09,900
their best hires kitchens is the
only outside higher than anyone
961
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:12,800
would honestly get their skirt
blown up a little bit over.
962
01:02:14,500 --> 01:02:19,400
So you got three guys most of
them on the offensive side of
963
01:02:19,408 --> 01:02:24,200
the ball there.
You know, what's the defense
964
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:27,000
giving look like what they going
to do on defense?
965
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:30,000
They they were awful on defense.
They were also in the secondary.
966
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:34,600
So, I don't know if that's going
to be a better situation for
967
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:37,500
them and that's even if we're
counting, you know, makeup of
968
01:02:37,500 --> 01:02:39,500
the roster and all this other
bullshit.
969
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:42,800
Well, make up a roster, your
coaching staff in general
970
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:46,800
because I think, you know, if
you look at what Brent, did
971
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:51,800
coaching staff wise to me, you
take, you take a guy like Chris
972
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:56,200
Moore who was, is a protege of
his who had been an SCC in an
973
01:02:56,200 --> 01:03:00,900
FSU for a few years.
You take a guy like Derek Jones,
974
01:03:00,900 --> 01:03:04,600
who has Q coach did you come to
cutcliffe who coached at Ole
975
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:07,700
Miss and Texas?
Tech he is a proven division.
976
01:03:07,700 --> 01:03:11,700
One football coach.
There is no more no less than to
977
01:03:11,700 --> 01:03:20,000
say that about him and then got
like Boeing and FL hope, you
978
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:24,600
know, ACC guy.
But then in just, just in this
979
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:28,300
alone, Grim Pride, getting joe
Rudolph should put him ahead of
980
01:03:28,300 --> 01:03:31,000
Tony Elliott.
He literally went out and got
981
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:33,600
one of the best offensive line
coach been in the country and
982
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:37,200
convinced him to come together
as good as retaining to Jay was
983
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:39,600
Rudolph.
Definitely Trump them try.
984
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:43,300
If you're retaining to Jay, he's
your best coaching move and the
985
01:03:43,300 --> 01:03:45,500
coaching move, the Promenade was
better than that.
986
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:51,300
But that game over man came in
but if it's just them Ron I'll
987
01:03:51,300 --> 01:03:54,800
look at Brent Prime say Brooke
prai has been at Vanderbilt and
988
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:57,300
Penn State.
The one thing that he has been
989
01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:00,900
the whole time as he is been the
defensive coordinator or Cody,
990
01:04:00,900 --> 01:04:07,600
see is consistency.
Where Tony, especially with DJ.
991
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:12,800
The wheels fell off a little bit
with Kelly Bryant.
992
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:17,800
Remember Kelly, Brian, I do.
The team was good.
993
01:04:17,900 --> 01:04:20,700
Not great on offense.
Yeah.
994
01:04:20,700 --> 01:04:25,300
And it can we say this too?
I mean, I know that Tony's had
995
01:04:25,300 --> 01:04:29,800
some success recruiting in a lot
of different areas with this is
996
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:32,900
still his first time coaching
outside of South Carolina.
997
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:38,700
It is It is you Berman, what
Berman and Clemson, right?
998
01:04:38,900 --> 01:04:44,100
Yeah, that's it.
So we're in product and what?
999
01:04:45,100 --> 01:04:52,100
Pennsylvania Virginia Georgia
Tennessee, Pennsylvania.
1000
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:56,100
So basically he's got like a
weird little diamond shape.
1001
01:04:57,200 --> 01:05:00,900
He's touched pretty much
everywhere in the footprint in
1002
01:05:00,900 --> 01:05:02,800
terms of recruiting in his
career.
1003
01:05:03,500 --> 01:05:08,200
So at worst and worst, I believe
Brent price.
1004
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:13,400
Should be 62 worst.
So we'll see.
1005
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:16,500
We'll see.
But the first two I think got me
1006
01:05:16,500 --> 01:05:17,500
more than anything.
The last one.
1007
01:05:17,500 --> 01:05:21,000
It's a UVA coach.
So, we have to talk about it.
1008
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:24,400
We haven't talked shit because
it's UVA and, and Elliot was a
1009
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:29,700
primary target for a lot of the
fan base and potentially win, at
1010
01:05:29,707 --> 01:05:32,700
least when he started the
process because of how far
1011
01:05:32,700 --> 01:05:34,400
things.
Got what?
1012
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:38,000
Looks like they got in last
cycle when we thought, went a
1013
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:40,600
was going to get fired after
2020.
1014
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:45,000
So we just listen, our brains
were a little loose, then that's
1015
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:50,100
all I can say our brains were a
little bit loose during because
1016
01:05:50,500 --> 01:05:54,000
we were, we had Scar Tissue, we
just needed a change, who's
1017
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:56,800
needed a change?
Well, I think, you know you get
1018
01:05:56,800 --> 01:06:00,500
more information.
I think we saw your 2021 if
1019
01:06:00,500 --> 01:06:06,000
nothing else gave us a glimpse.
Clemson's offense without Trevor
1020
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:11,800
Lawrence.
Well, but 2016, or 2017 gave us
1021
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:13,600
a view of them without DeShaun
Watson.
1022
01:06:14,300 --> 01:06:16,300
The writing was kind of on the
wall then.
1023
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:20,600
And then they get Trevor for the
next three seasons and won a
1024
01:06:20,607 --> 01:06:23,500
national championship, make way.
All the only thing you can see
1025
01:06:23,500 --> 01:06:25,400
right now is that he's
definitely walking into a
1026
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:30,400
favorable quarterback situation
and UVA, he is, but they've lost
1027
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:35,300
some stuff there.
All right.
1028
01:06:35,300 --> 01:06:38,600
So speaking of changes, Brian.
I sent you this article because
1029
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:43,400
you hadn't seen it.
The town of Blacksburg is
1030
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:46,100
proposing and is our last little
bit of the night.
1031
01:06:46,100 --> 01:06:50,700
The town of blackburg is
proposing tweaks to the mass
1032
01:06:50,700 --> 01:06:54,100
outdoor Gathering ordinance
because of what happens on
1033
01:06:54,100 --> 01:06:56,000
Center Street steering game
days.
1034
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:03,100
Yeah, somehow, this is getting
played on his like, well people
1035
01:07:03,100 --> 01:07:06,500
are having parties in their
walking off the paths, on the
1036
01:07:06,508 --> 01:07:10,000
way to the stadium walking,
they're going through the woods
1037
01:07:10,300 --> 01:07:14,000
and they're going off the path.
Listen.
1038
01:07:15,500 --> 01:07:18,400
First of all, they need to be
very kind of glad.
1039
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:22,600
You literally have this section
right here where the mass amount
1040
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:25,400
of students I would guess.
Last time we walk through their
1041
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:29,800
back in 19 this probably that
that was a lightness.
1042
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:31,800
Probably 700 kids there.
Yeah.
1043
01:07:32,700 --> 01:07:35,600
Yeah and that was on a
Thanksgiving weekend so I'm
1044
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:39,000
assuming it's probably five to
seven hundred more.
1045
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:42,000
On the normal game day.
So probably 1500 kids?
1046
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:46,700
You're at least getting kids
congregated in one location near
1047
01:07:46,700 --> 01:07:50,200
the stadium.
In the some of the crap that
1048
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:51,700
they're proposing is just
stupid.
1049
01:07:51,700 --> 01:07:59,400
It's like what's also do but
it's like they're here but it's
1050
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:01,500
not even enforceable.
Like what's the point of the
1051
01:08:02,100 --> 01:08:03,800
wanted to point out of the point
of the word means?
1052
01:08:04,100 --> 01:08:07,200
But any, any in their talk about
people going through the woods,
1053
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:09,900
getting knocked off path and the
drunkenness and all, well, a
1054
01:08:09,900 --> 01:08:11,700
they're in college.
It's just going to happen.
1055
01:08:12,100 --> 01:08:15,100
But here's a bigger key.
If you go to a Virginia Tech
1056
01:08:15,100 --> 01:08:17,899
football game or if you have
been going, especially over the
1057
01:08:17,899 --> 01:08:20,899
last Decade, the Center Street
has gotten bigger and bigger and
1058
01:08:20,899 --> 01:08:26,200
bigger. you know, not to go to
Center Street, it's going to be
1059
01:08:28,100 --> 01:08:30,100
Bash.
It's going to be a lot of
1060
01:08:30,100 --> 01:08:31,899
people.
It's going to be tougher to get
1061
01:08:31,899 --> 01:08:34,899
down Center Street through the
woods over to the stadium.
1062
01:08:36,300 --> 01:08:40,700
In those Common Sense fans are
going to avoid Center Street if
1063
01:08:40,899 --> 01:08:43,000
if they have a problem with it.
Yeah, if they have a problem
1064
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:47,500
with that type of atmosphere on
their way to the stadium, which
1065
01:08:47,500 --> 01:08:51,000
is all non family-friendly
atmosphere on the way to the
1066
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:54,600
stadium.
I'm using air quotes there for
1067
01:08:54,600 --> 01:09:03,500
the people listening important.
Just I mean this is this is no
1068
01:09:03,500 --> 01:09:07,200
fun police.
Yeah, the no fun police.
1069
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:13,100
It's it's very to me is very
counterproductive because if you
1070
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:15,899
go to the game you know what it
is.
1071
01:09:19,300 --> 01:09:24,100
So you know to avoid it and in
some cases like for us if we go
1072
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:28,800
just me and brine well we
probably partaking walking
1073
01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:31,500
through Center Street to go to
the stadium yet because it's you
1074
01:09:31,508 --> 01:09:34,500
know, huh.
Make sure you reminisce on
1075
01:09:34,500 --> 01:09:35,300
Saturday.
Yeah.
1076
01:09:38,700 --> 01:09:47,100
Back in my day.
But so for those out there who
1077
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:50,899
live in Blacksburg, you know, go
and just say this is stupid,
1078
01:09:50,899 --> 01:09:55,300
stop it right there.
And we know one of our favorite
1079
01:09:55,300 --> 01:09:58,500
people will be probably at that
town council meeting.
1080
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:01,900
Just Jeremy.
Don't drink any Jameson before
1081
01:10:01,900 --> 01:10:04,300
you go.
Okay, we can wear the crown.
1082
01:10:04,700 --> 01:10:09,600
You can wait.
You're not mrs.
1083
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:13,500
Bartel Brian is anything broken
since we started, hey, only an
1084
01:10:13,500 --> 01:10:14,500
hour.
And 10 minutes.
1085
01:10:14,500 --> 01:10:19,900
This is a short episode.
So trim episode number by our
1086
01:10:19,900 --> 01:10:22,900
standards at least, not seeing
anything.
1087
01:10:22,900 --> 01:10:26,200
That's broken in the last little
while here.
1088
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:31,900
So that is going to wrap up this
episode of The Boundary Corner
1089
01:10:31,900 --> 01:10:35,900
podcast, I'm Curtis Wilson.
Hi Brian sequence.
1090
01:10:37,300 --> 01:10:41,500
Visit our website, boundary
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1091
01:10:41,500 --> 01:10:46,400
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1092
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:49,800
Compton's, episode on the camps,
listen to it.
1093
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:53,100
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1094
01:10:53,100 --> 01:10:55,900
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1095
01:10:58,300 --> 01:11:01,100
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1096
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:04,700
Hey, 3 weeks, man.
I'm out of it.
1097
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:32,500
YouTube, he has updated his
YouTube and this year, he is
1098
01:11:32,500 --> 01:11:35,000
going to be during the summer
out at the Grand and Village
1099
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:38,100
Farmers Market out in Roanoke.
I know he always has a good time
1100
01:11:38,100 --> 01:11:41,000
out.
There, we thank you for
1101
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:43,000
listening.
Hopefully, we'll be back in just
1102
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:46,700
a couple weeks.
Not as long Breakers this time
1103
01:11:47,100 --> 01:11:50,100
the prime as always, let's go.
Thank you.
00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:49,100
Welcome back to being boundary
Corner podcast.
2
00:00:49,300 --> 00:00:53,500
I am Curtis welcome.
I Brian siglo buddy we back on a
3
00:00:53,500 --> 00:00:57,700
Wednesday night.
It's been a while but here we
4
00:00:57,700 --> 00:00:59,200
are.
Three weeks.
5
00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:03,500
It's the oldest.
He's the man, we got things
6
00:01:03,500 --> 00:01:06,800
going on.
You're traveling, we got forts
7
00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:10,300
going on with kiddos.
You got cool wrapping up.
8
00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,400
Clearly you look at my face, I
spent time at the pool this
9
00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:16,100
weekend.
I got a little tan.
10
00:01:16,100 --> 00:01:20,100
You're going on.
I'm not even not do that.
11
00:01:20,100 --> 00:01:22,000
I did get a couple bike rides
in.
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So bite me when you did my car
that if you also power washed
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Which is probably why I have a
terrible time if they good on
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you man.
You did more yard with metadata
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had to be done.
I mean, you know, there's a few
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places you look around.
It's like, okay, we got to do
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this.
And it's if you commit to doing
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it's like six hours, right?
See it like dinner time?
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But yeah, it has been three
weeks guys.
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A lot of stuff going on and
Hokie Nation.
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We're going to cover a variety
of topics tonight but Brian
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let's kick it off.
And let's talk with let's start
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with big news of the day and
let's talk basketball with
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Justin mutts announcing he will
be returning.
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Yeah, that's big news guys that
really you know we had been
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hoping that we were going to get
that word for our own sake.
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You know, obviously I know,
Justin was exploring.
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Yes, potential draft prospects
there, but I think he knows that
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we're glad to have him back and
we're glad that he's running it
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back for another year with this
hokey team.
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And when we look at this hokey
team now with what, Mike young
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has been able to do in the
offseason between the recruiting
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class and some of the transfer
portal.
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Pickups this is a pretty, pretty
strong, not only starting five,
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but probably the eight or nine
main rotation that we're looking
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at for the 2223 season coming
up.
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Oh, for sure.
I mean, so let's let's let's
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just talk about it.
When we were talking about it
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earlier today at starting five.
Center power forward, you know
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the transfer Grant the seal yep
we feel right.
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I think so.
I think that's going to be the
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essentially a Luma 2.0 in some
ways.
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I think you know there's a
couple parts of the seals game
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that may be a little stronger
than aluminum.
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A couple that might not quite be
as polished.
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At least it we're we're a little
was at this time last year but I
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think overall that was a good
Plug and Play pick up in the
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portal.
Obviously, getting months back,
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that's huge.
Huge group, huge for leadership,
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huge group, home court, play the
matchups.
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He creates what he can do,
especially passing out of the
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pose to guys.
Like, another really good leader
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Hunter Couture.
Yeah, you got, you got Couture
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and then I'll obviously we got
Maddox back there as well.
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Both of those winged guys.
Both can shoot the three well if
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you see Maddux, develop a little
With his defense and his handle,
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he's going to be a big-time
offensive threat.
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Yes.
So I'm looking forward to see
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what he can do with that.
And then obviously, we got John
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Padula, running the point.
Yes, and as much as we can all
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love.
Shown love, storm, Murphy comes
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calling, Sean Murphy storm,
Murphy.
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He was a good point guard, but
that was the one element He was
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missing, was the be able to
create and There was at times
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last year, you saw pedulla.
Come on.
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And there were times he could
create not every single
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possession.
He doesn't have that skill level
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because if he had that skill
level, he would probably already
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have played with your college
and already being the pros.
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But to have him running the
point where, you know,
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occasionally he can just go,
right, you just go create his
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own shot.
You know, I know there were
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there's there's a lot of
concerns about is there anybody
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behind them?
But I think between Maddox
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Couture him in Rodney rice was,
but shout out the combo guard.
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Rodney rice one of the highest
recruit ever signed, you know,
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top 65 player for Star, little
handle with him to get, you
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know, I think we'll be okay at
point guard.
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I think, obviously, It's like
somebody said it today and I
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wish I could remember who it
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So if you said it in some of the
chats where in and more you said
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it on Twitter not trying to
steal them just like the point
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of it's just like the NBA
usually, whoever your backup
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point guard.
Is you're not doing the same
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things, you are with your start.
Yeah, I think that's the big
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thing especially with Rowdy rice
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some time to do what he does.
Well right now out the gate.
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Yep.
And as he develops, some of
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those, those finer skills that
he's going to be going to need
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to take over that more
full-fledged starting role
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sometime in the future for the
Hokies.
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Whether that be on the floor, at
the same time at the two guard
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or whether that be, you know,
being a true combo and running
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the point.
Point for a good portion of the
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game.
I don't think it might kind of
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system that there is a great
need for a capital P.
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Capital, G point guard sure,
it's definitely not that type of
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system.
So you having a guy like, like
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Rowdy rice is definitely kind of
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system.
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And then, two guys, we mentioned
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year about the transfers with
Poteet in Camden.
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I mean, obviously, Sleep OT.
It's going to give you that
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again your Center Off the Bench
who has played significant
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minutes.
You had some good size and then
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cannons kind of the unknown and
Kim and become that extra wing.
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And if he becomes that extra
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Couture Mattox, and him, then
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and rice.
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and hopefully Camden kind of
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maybe play a three wing.
You know, you take months out to
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get A breather you play Basile
Camden Couture Maddox.
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You play like a three wing type
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Yeah so it's I said this earlier
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I want to temper expectations
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to happen is similar to last
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You've got to figure out where
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When we figured out how they
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happened?
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did you say?
You think we're you feel like
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where we were last year is where
you think we should start this
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year, right?
I think the expectations we had
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pre season last year is where
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I think this is a top-to-bottom,
a deeper team than last year.
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I think it is going to take a
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jail.
So I think the expectations at
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the start of last season, we're
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Higher than they should have
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do in the backcourt, in terms of
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those rotations.
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be a little bit of figuring out
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the frontcourt this year, as we
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some time to find those, but I
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like the versatility of the line
of you can go bigger.
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You can go smaller and then you
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So you get a little bit of
everything, right?
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I like that, there is those
matchups.
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depending on The opponent's
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strengths and weaknesses.
There's some, there's some teams
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and we're going to play We're
Poteet.
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Might be the, the guy, the first
guy to start might be.
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This might be the the center you
want out there, but there's
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going to be, I'd say the
majority of the games, the seal
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is going to get the majority of
those minutes.
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I agree.
But I get I like the versatility
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that this gives us because
everybody off the bench has some
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degree of proven caliber play.
And that's what we didn't have
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last year at the start of the
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Way in niches niches teacher,
big banger get rebounds.
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Play hard defense.
If you know, you know, if you
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decide to have Couture, come off
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threes.
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they give you something versus
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like you said.
Last year, it was the unknown
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of.
What are they going to give us
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one other piece.
The basketball news that broke
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the saint confirmed.
He's going to Kansas State.
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I don't know if this was Is a
direct move in relation to
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months coming back.
If months doesn't come back,
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does this?
This on return?
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But best of luck to him going to
a pretty solid program out in
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case state so that will wrap up
the basketball segment.
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All right, we go from a high to
we gotta, we gotta go to a
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little low here, you know,
softball.
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You know, after the regional
weekend, where they went three
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games in 24 hours, which was
unbelievable.
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You know, being Kentucky, be
Miami of Ohio late night into
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Sunday morning and then back to
back against Kentucky.
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You know, the fuel was rocking.
The place was rocking our hotel,
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girl had herself a weekend.
And he did have a weekend,
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shout-out.
Mackenzie Lauder and then the
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Florida Gators role in town.
And essentially a, you know, top
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ten Team all year.
They got ranked 12th in the
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couple to filing polls Friday
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started off great, Hokies went
six nothing but from there it
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didn't, you know, ends in
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Subsequently was a decent, start
to gain to a couple missed
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opportunities, a couple things.
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and then Florida capitalized and
closed out the game too.
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And it felt That was that was
the switch, right?
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Like, yeah, the way the game to
kind of ended it was, was
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foretelling of how the game on
Sunday was going to roll, right.
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I mean, so many times you see
that in in all sports, I mean in
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all sports.
You see it's the old, the old
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Avalanche effect, it starts and
then all of a sudden it tumbles.
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But for the program in general
Hello season.
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You know, in the season, ranked
top five Why do a lot of top?
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Eight teams.
We're losing.
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Not making it to Oklahoma City.
For the World Series in, you
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know what, what, what what's
really good in my opinion yet?
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We're losing killing right?
She's an All-American, you know,
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years ago and I cannot think who
was it?
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Another All-American picture.
Why is it blinking on me?
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You don't get that kind of all
every year.
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Now, what I will say is my
opinion, is this Emma.
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Emma has a chance to be to get
up in that upper echelon.
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Could you could she be he?
Richard I can't put that on but
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I think you've got your number
one going into next year.
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Where I don't think it's going
to be a slip from top five to
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completely out.
I think this team is going to be
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a top 20 team next year.
Yeah, yeah, it's definitely,
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that gives you some some promise
for what's going on in the
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future.
It's going to be nice to see how
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Emma develops.
Going into next year, especially
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with somewhat of a leadership
role probably put on her heading
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into next year, so, but I don't
think you see a steep ramp up
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with you.
I think it's going to be, you
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know, a step back.
I think it would be hard, not to
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say that there will be some step
back, I think losing healing in
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particular.
Just because of, you know how
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shut down.
She was from Canada, season
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isn't really the majority of
less your 23 years.
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Look at it that I think there's
going to be potentially some
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step back especially early in
the season but I think it's
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going to be alright I think I
think they're going to still be
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a competitive team next year and
looking forward to seeing what
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they do.
Again for bringing with me,
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let's roll from the softball
Diamond to the baseball diamond
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because after big Series wins
against Louisville against Duke
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to close out the regular season,
they lose in pool play, in the
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ACC tournament to eventual
Champion care.
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Carolina, I don't like pool play
format.
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I'll say that.
Because it, if you're one of the
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best four teams, it gives,
there's nothing there to be game
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where in reality, probably what
should happen and I'm harping on
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this, I didn't mention you this
earlier I was going to do it in
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reality.
The top four seeds should be
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waiting for Friday night.
And everybody else have to play
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to get there.
And then you go from 8 to 4 to 2
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and there's your championship
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Not this, we're going to pull
play, no, you want to pull play
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the other eight teams and let
them figure out who can win, do
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it.
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teams in the ACC, you should be
sitting Friday night with your
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one ready to play.
Yeah, I agree.
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I agree.
I think it's not the best
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format.
You know that I'm a big believer
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in the format that you play in
the regular season should be the
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format that kind of goes in the
postseason.
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But we talked about that a lot
with the email be wild card.
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And yes, I hate the fucking play
in games.
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Yes, you did.
I don't like pool play.
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I get why people.
People do like it or at least,
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you know, give it, give it some
some Credence there.
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But you should have more
Advantage as a top for see than,
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just the tiebreaker in the pool.
Yeah, that's yeah.
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Because it's two games.
Yeah.
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It's two games and usually,
they're starting midweek.
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So, if you're throwing your one,
you're throwing your one on a
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short rest for them.
So, you know, just get rid of
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that format top for because, you
know, not everybody makes it
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their team's always left out
because there's 12 teams.
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Usually, there are two or three
teams that do not get invited,
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put your, for let your other
eight played at the four best
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teams and then.
But anyway, let's digress from
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that a top eight seed.
Number four, seed in the
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country.
From where this baseball program
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was just a few years ago, to be
a national seed to have a
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Blacksburg Regional potential,
Super Regional.
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I mean, it's the right guy was
hired with makes another
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fantastic move.
And I mean in the world of
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baseball, the collegiate
baseball, if you can
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consistently get top aides, you
are a national powerhouse.
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It's a question.
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And I mean, this is very much
the, you know, like the 2004
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football team.
This team was not know, expected
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to do a whole lot.
I think they were picked to
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finish what next to last or last
next-to-last ACC.
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And here we are.
You had the best team in the
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regular season you had had.
It had a decent little run there
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in the championship and finished
up with the horsey for the
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region.
So I don't really think anybody
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could have expected more out of
this team and they really
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stepped up and shown that, you
know what?
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They've got going on there.
That the kind of the mix of
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players that they have and the
guys are bringing in, he is
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starting to turn to clip a
little bit, especially if they
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can get you.
Some steps up and pitching.
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If the pitching can be
consistent.
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I mean, the way, the way, the
way they knock the ball out of
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the park is just next level.
And I think they got a fairly
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favorable draw in their region,
release compared to some of the
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other ones out there.
So Yeah.
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What are you?
What's your thoughts on this
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pool of?
Well, for the region will write
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State.
We've already played this year
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and so we seeing what they have,
I'll have to pull up real quick.
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That record Colombia is
obviously the Ivy League school
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representation in and I don't
want to not those two teams
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because they did win their
conference.
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They did make it to the NCAA
tournament, but But I'll look,
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we look at this bracket.
It's Gonzaga in.
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That is your big problem because
Gonzaga legitimately has an ace
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and they are really good
pitching team, you know, under
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for totally are a for the whole
team and they're led by a guy by
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the name of Gabriel Hughes and
Hughes has a mid-90s guy with a,
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the reports are mid 90s guy with
a strikeout slider in with a
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changeup that runs at about 79.
He is intentionally and they're
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looking at in the Pro comparison
with Max Scherzer.
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Prediction is likely a top-15
pick, he's 64, he's 230 pounds.
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His biggest issue was control.
He's got his control under wraps
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in that shows this season where
he struck out 131 and he walked
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35.
Okay, so, so yeah, he wrote the
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consistency level there, but
here's the deal.
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In all likelihood, this team
will not see Gabriel Hughes
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because in the world of baseball
you roll the biggest dice.
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If you don't throw your a saint
game one and you know I'm gonna
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I'm gonna throw it here to local
because I heard this story a
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couple days ago about the
Regionals here in Richmond.
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Deep Run was playing Highland
Springs, VA, 89 yang.
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Deep Run, chose not to throw
their number one and apparently
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this kids really good like going
somewhere to play college
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because they were like we need
him for when we play the
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wannsee.
Guess what happened?
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They lost to Highland Springs.
They never got to throw their
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eggs.
So we probably won't see Gabriel
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cues but we likely you're
probably going to see a guy by
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the name of Owen wild.
Aiden 13.3 are a if they win
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Friday.
That's who we're probably going
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to look at Saturday but we seen
this team.
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Hit.
Good pitching?
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Yeah, yeah.
Big time.
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Six.
Again, that awful not terrible.
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Here's your big, here's your big
differential, 37 home runs.
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That is a massive gap between
110 the Hokies put up in
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something.
I was more shocked with and I
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brought this up to you a little
earlier today.
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We're not when we were looking
at their stats and I told Brian
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276.
Not a lot of Homer's your first
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thought was okay.
They're running team, then
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they've attempted less steals
than the Hokies Hokies what are
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the Hokies at steel?
Was you have that they're right.
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Where is my stolen bases.
So, the basic tips. 71 out of
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87.
This team has won 39 and 55.
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So they're not one of those
teams that is getting on base
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and trying to run you and a lot
of hit-and-runs clearly.
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So this, this isn't small bowl.
No.
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Just, they are what they are.
They are pitching team and Not
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seeing Hughes if they choose not
to if they choose to you know
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throw him Friday which they
should you know it's a hurdle to
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overcome and would you say Brian
five?
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If we score more than five runs
a game than they are.
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That's why I thought if we can
get 67 runs that should do it.
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And we're averaging over 80
close to eight runs a game.
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Yeah.
So if we can just get our
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average you should be able to
handle them pretty well.
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Also, I can't wait to see the
crowds out in Blacksburg the way
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they were with the softball team
last weekend.
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Definitely going to be a rock
and house for the baseball
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regionals there.
You know it, I'm assuming.
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Do we have a TV time yet?
For this one?
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I haven't seen it yet, but it's
got to be out there because they
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usually put that stuff out there
pretty quick.
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We're going to effort.
This will take it out in the
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post-production.
Laugh people, you get to see us
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stare at things Hang on.
We're coming.
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We're coming.
ESPN AC, oh my God you got to be
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kidding on acc Network, put it
on acc Network, 7:00 Friday
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night.
The network is good for
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something.
Took long enough that's so
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annoying.
Like you're like being Network
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Friday night 7:00.
So those who are going in town
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for that, probably going to have
two or three hours for little
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tailgate, maybe a little hidden
downtown up, so maybe more of a
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raucous crowd, but I definitely
think we see, Super Regionals,
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you probably already read.
You know, who were lined up to
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play against Super Regionals if
they win their Regional, the
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Florida Gators.
Let's get them on here.
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Let's get paid back, let's do
it.
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Let's do something else.
We want to hit real quick.
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You will just announced a few
weeks ago.
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Tim settle giving a significant
gift to the football program.
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I think it's awesome to see a
temp success.
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He's had in Washington sign on
his deal with Buffalo this year
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but also seen, you know, not
only him but obviously the
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Fuller's.
But seeing these guys who are
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coming I'm through make it in
the NFL turning back around in
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contributing to me there in the
precedent.
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For any guy who goes out, has a
good NFL career, give back to
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what made you got to love it.
Look, Tim and general.
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I mean, awesome guy.
Yeah, and I mean, I think you're
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some some of this is it's nice
to see guys that I said, at the
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time.
Hey.
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He dropped way too far in this
trap.
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He's going to show you something
in a couple years and he just
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one of those players.
I know Kendall Kendall was one
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of those players to be somewhat
he was able to do in in Casey
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and now with Washington again.
So, you know, good on them for
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forgiving back to the program
that they helped build.
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And you love to see it right
here.
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Love to see the guys that you
cheer for, you love to see their
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names on the building.
You love.
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See their names on the rooms.
I mean, it's just it's something
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that you can look back on those
days and say, yeah, hey, I saw
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him play back in the day, I saw
him play and he's doing big
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things here, and he's giving
back said, the president, he's
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really doing what you should be
doing.
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If you, you know what, if you
make it to that level, remember
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where you came from?
And no one had guy like Tim.
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I'm sure probably his hi School
is reap rewards on to his
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community up in Northern
Virginia, is recored with well.
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So big town, you know.
Obviously he's playing for the
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bills.
You can't root for him too hard.
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I can root form a little bit but
you know good for Tim Lee.
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She's not in divisions.
There you go.
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Alright, so one last piece
before we go to break, we want
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to hit on is obviously the
two-day trial.
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Came to an end this week.
He was found.
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Obviously, if you haven't heard
not guilty on second degree,
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murder charges.
No additional charges since you
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were brought up against him,
this is something.
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It was roughly a year old when
everything broke almost to the
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day, almost to the day.
We wanted to hit just a couple
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minutes of it.
Because it needed to be
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addressed to recruit.
He was a member of the Virginia
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Tech football team at that point
in time.
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And it's kind of one of those
things after we didn't say much
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on the year ago, because we knew
a lot of things are going to
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start coming out and in the
travel, a lot of things came
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out.
There was a lot of speculation
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out, the gate this time last
year, honey.
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And some of it we weren't sure
what was fact and what was
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fiction we wanted to wait until
everything came out before we
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had any sort of meaningful
Discussion on this thing.
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Yeah.
And I think we found out a lot
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at the trial and I think that
ultimately you know if the
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charge is murder to that the
ultimate the jury had to find
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him not guilty based on the
information.
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Yeah, that's what it was as the
evidence was being presented of
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everything that took place
between him and the deceased.
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In this case you started it
started stacking Enough.
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And as you started stacking up,
and you think about what murder
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to is you read the definition by
law.
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It's not murder too.
If potentially the attorney, the
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District Attorney's down, there
would have taken a different
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path.
Maybe there's a different
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outcome, but they didn't.
It wasn't murder to even if you
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take away the self defense
situation, right?
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Well, I think that think that
just sealed the deal on the
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whole thing.
Absolutely.
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Once there was evidence that
there a knife was present, then
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that really took it in a
completely different direction
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110%.
So that's closed.
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And, you know, whatever May
going in that young man's life
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from here on out, God bless him
and best of luck to him.
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And with that, before we get
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Let's get into some more
football and a lot of football
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in the back half of this episode
here.
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Let's start by taking a look at
a recent commitment. 2023
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football, the on the top 25
somehow ranked 22nd right now
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00:30:13,500 --> 00:30:17,300
in, just, a few days ago, the
key, he thought of Highland
462
00:30:17,300 --> 00:30:23,000
Spring, then five foot nine
hundred sixty five pounds, He's
463
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:27,500
listed as an athlete, you know.
Definitely going to look M at
464
00:30:27,500 --> 00:30:33,200
wideout probably Corner commit.
He's a 3-star number 24 in
465
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:38,200
Virginia.
Would have you seen what have
466
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,600
you heard and what do you think
about mr.
467
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:44,900
Heath potential in Blackbird,
he's an athlete with a capital.
468
00:30:44,900 --> 00:30:49,400
A you said wide receiver.
You said corner but he's also
469
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,500
going to be a return specialist
for us.
470
00:30:51,500 --> 00:30:55,000
I believe.
So look for some of that either
471
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:59,200
out the gate or at least by year
to being a contributor there.
472
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,900
I think this is a good pick up
obviously you know you want to
473
00:31:02,900 --> 00:31:05,800
tap that Highland Springs tap as
Much as you can.
474
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,700
So I like it, I like I like
that.
475
00:31:10,700 --> 00:31:16,900
It's continuing the trend with
getting solid players from
476
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,400
reputable institutions in and
around the state.
477
00:31:21,700 --> 00:31:26,400
It's keeping that Trend going.
It's still not a.
478
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:31,900
You still haven't had that, you
know, blow your skirt up yet.
479
00:31:32,900 --> 00:31:36,200
But at the same time, nothing
but solid across the board.
480
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:42,200
Yeah, I'm hoping that as we go
into Camp season, which is what
481
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,200
we're about to talk about a
little bit more here.
482
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,300
Once we get more into Camp
season, we start seeing maybe at
483
00:31:47,300 --> 00:31:51,000
least one or two of those, you
know, bigger fish.
484
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,600
Start to start to come our way a
little bit.
485
00:31:54,900 --> 00:31:59,300
But right now I'd say this is a
good pickup, he's probably just
486
00:31:59,300 --> 00:32:05,700
below the hammer and and love it
in my book in terms of where
487
00:32:05,700 --> 00:32:09,400
they stack up in this class.
Yeah, I think it's a good
488
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:10,900
pickup.
All right?
489
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,700
Yeah.
I mean you just raised the
490
00:32:13,700 --> 00:32:18,000
question about when we're going
to get the big one like when
491
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,700
they're going to be that one
where everybody kind of the
492
00:32:20,700 --> 00:32:23,600
Great.
Has the eyebrow and also, I
493
00:32:23,608 --> 00:32:26,700
think about that but I also
wonder when is this regime going
494
00:32:26,700 --> 00:32:28,900
to break through down the 75 or
up and over?
495
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:34,500
Because right now it's been,
it's been Richmond kids.
496
00:32:35,100 --> 00:32:39,500
It's been, you know, Southwest
Virginia kids along with
497
00:32:39,500 --> 00:32:41,400
obviously the ones on the
out-of-state.
498
00:32:41,700 --> 00:32:44,300
So is there, anybody
potentially?
499
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:51,200
In the state of Virginia in the
75 in Nova where we can sit back
500
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:55,200
here and kind of say okay, yeah
that's going to be the
501
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,700
Breakthrough one and is it maybe
even not a breakthrough?
502
00:32:58,700 --> 00:33:01,500
Maybe not, you know, your high
for or a four-star guy.
503
00:33:01,500 --> 00:33:07,500
But is it from an institution?
That is known for rolling out?
504
00:33:07,500 --> 00:33:10,100
Continuous Prospect, that's why
it's nice to see the Highland
505
00:33:10,100 --> 00:33:15,000
Springs as why it's nice to see
a DeMatha, yeah.
506
00:33:15,100 --> 00:33:18,500
I think the thing to do is keep
your eyes on Phoebus and Oscar
507
00:33:18,500 --> 00:33:21,600
Smith, I think there's some
potential for us to make some
508
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:27,000
some headwinds there.
I think it Phoebus, probably
509
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,400
maybe there's a Target in this
class and I think an Oscar
510
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:31,900
Smith.
There's a Target in this class
511
00:33:31,900 --> 00:33:36,600
and the next class that could
potentially cause a little bit
512
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:40,000
of a shift there.
But I think when you talk about
513
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,200
Richmond compared to Nova and
757.
514
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:47,500
I think we released with the
last regime, sat better in
515
00:33:47,500 --> 00:33:53,700
Richmond, that we sat in 757 and
Noble and I think I think the
516
00:33:53,700 --> 00:33:58,500
reputation of Virginia Tech was
a lot more solid in the RV.
517
00:33:58,500 --> 00:34:03,800
A at the end of Wednesday's
regime than it was in the 75 and
518
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,100
Nova.
I think this is just again price
519
00:34:07,100 --> 00:34:09,199
talked about building those
bridges and repairing.
520
00:34:09,199 --> 00:34:12,300
Those things he had a lot more
work to do with Nova and a lot
521
00:34:12,300 --> 00:34:15,100
more work to do in the 75 than
the average Point.
522
00:34:15,199 --> 00:34:16,900
That's a day of the point to
make.
523
00:34:16,900 --> 00:34:20,400
Because at the end of that
regime, we were picking off some
524
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,000
kids from Richmond to flip at
the end.
525
00:34:23,100 --> 00:34:26,600
Look, the kid for it from a
teleca, getting some 7, getting
526
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,800
some Holland spring kids to walk
in.
527
00:34:29,500 --> 00:34:33,500
So I think like price said,
we've got to build
528
00:34:33,500 --> 00:34:38,100
relationships, we don't have
them here yet the sort of that
529
00:34:38,199 --> 00:34:43,000
when JC came in that kind of
Next map, completely fixed.
530
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:47,500
But put some duct tape and some
of the series on the
531
00:34:47,500 --> 00:34:51,699
relationship down in Richmond.
Definitely went or and obviously
532
00:34:51,699 --> 00:34:53,600
we're reaping a little bit of
the rewards from that.
533
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,199
Right now.
He brought the belt sander and
534
00:34:56,199 --> 00:34:59,300
smooth it out a little bit.
Be smooth that out a little bit
535
00:34:59,300 --> 00:35:03,000
and then Prime this regime along
JC, you know.
536
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,800
We feel good about Richmond,
Brian.
537
00:35:08,100 --> 00:35:12,900
If you did not see the news, I
think you Did the 25 recruiting
538
00:35:12,900 --> 00:35:17,900
Limit Out 2023 and 2024?
What do you think about that?
539
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,900
No limits.
It's better than nothing.
540
00:35:20,900 --> 00:35:25,000
I would have, honestly preferred
to have three to five more
541
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:29,500
scholarships tacked, onto the 85
then, for the next two years to
542
00:35:29,500 --> 00:35:32,900
be unlimited.
But in terms of how this affects
543
00:35:32,900 --> 00:35:38,500
us, I think we may not go over
25 in 23 big just because it is
544
00:35:38,500 --> 00:35:40,400
a rebuilding year.
Yeah.
545
00:35:40,700 --> 00:35:43,400
We'll probably not sitting the
best with some of the more
546
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:47,900
higher caliber players are
classes going to be mostly
547
00:35:48,300 --> 00:35:51,200
mid-to-high three stars.
Anyway, it's not going to have a
548
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:57,400
ton of four stars, but I think
in 24 when we're under 85 really
549
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:02,000
well at that point and we're
starting to make some Headway in
550
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,100
the state and around our
footprint a little bit more
551
00:36:05,100 --> 00:36:08,300
where we're established.
I think that's when you take a
552
00:36:08,300 --> 00:36:10,300
shot and load up as much in the
boat.
553
00:36:10,500 --> 00:36:13,400
As you can because, you know,
you'll be able to get
554
00:36:14,300 --> 00:36:17,000
essentially all of those spores
that you're targeting.
555
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,700
And then all of those threes
that are in that, you know,
556
00:36:20,700 --> 00:36:24,900
hiring three rains that you're
targeting, then make some some
557
00:36:24,900 --> 00:36:28,900
business decisions on the back
in with those mid to low three
558
00:36:28,900 --> 00:36:31,500
star kids.
Yeah.
559
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:36,200
Well the whole thing that this
year, you say no the only way
560
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,400
this year, you can get that bump
is if you win.
561
00:36:40,500 --> 00:36:46,000
Like if you if you tell me if
your tell me, you're thinking 67
562
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:50,400
wins, I think, with our
schedule, we can get six and I
563
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:56,300
think I think six is enough to
roll into 24 with with a little
564
00:36:56,300 --> 00:37:00,100
bit of momentum.
I go, mr.
565
00:37:00,100 --> 00:37:02,800
Brightside.
Let's say, print pride comes in
566
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:07,200
and wins nine games, can he
attacked when we attack 23 more,
567
00:37:07,500 --> 00:37:10,200
because then you're talking
about, it's a regime change.
568
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:14,000
It's a it is a coaching staff
that can recruit better and
569
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,400
you're coming out year one and
winning nine games going to a
570
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,300
solid Bowl.
Obviously, if you're doing that
571
00:37:20,300 --> 00:37:22,200
their players producing on the
field.
572
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,700
Well, I guess the question is
going to be, can you, is there
573
00:37:26,700 --> 00:37:29,600
going to be enough players left
at the end of this cycle?
574
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:33,900
Once you get Results on the
board to really make some, some
575
00:37:33,900 --> 00:37:38,300
late season flips and if you are
able to do that, is there enough
576
00:37:38,300 --> 00:37:42,100
that still keeps you under 85?
Because more than likely we're
577
00:37:42,100 --> 00:37:44,900
going to use that one
scholarship open that we have.
578
00:37:45,500 --> 00:37:48,500
I would say to fill in at least
one need position before the
579
00:37:48,500 --> 00:37:55,500
start of fall came.
Maybe um because obviously
580
00:37:55,500 --> 00:38:00,000
you've already mentioned it, you
know it we're June 1st, there's
581
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,700
been no discussion of additional
scholarships from the NCAA.
582
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,600
We thought it would be like
three to five just to help teens
583
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:13,600
out, but it's not hurting teams.
It's hurting kids, they're going
584
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,100
to be a lot of kids that don't
have don't have a home.
585
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:21,000
They're basically screwing the
student-athlete great job into a
586
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,500
Screw student-athletes.
That's what we're here for
587
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,100
versus.
If you give three to five, open
588
00:38:27,100 --> 00:38:33,100
scholarships to every team.
What's that a minimum of 400
589
00:38:33,100 --> 00:38:36,400
additional kids in the portal
would find homes because they
590
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,200
would find homes?
Yes.
591
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,700
Oh, what is?
He double A decided to do is
592
00:38:40,700 --> 00:38:47,000
that they said, okay well we
understand that the situation we
593
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,700
put them in with the covid year
and then having no relief is
594
00:38:50,700 --> 00:38:55,700
going To put pressure on the
Freshman incoming classes, we're
595
00:38:55,700 --> 00:38:59,200
going to give them some relief.
So most of freshmen that would
596
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,100
have found homes.
Normally are still going to find
597
00:39:02,100 --> 00:39:05,100
homes, but we're literally going
to fuck anybody that wanted to
598
00:39:05,100 --> 00:39:08,300
give the portal.
Yeah, that is in a high-caliber
599
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:13,600
front, front end, immediate
starter, at most power, 5,
600
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:17,000
institution type player.
Yeah, developmental players is
601
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,300
where it's true.
Yeah.
602
00:39:18,700 --> 00:39:20,800
In the thing, is with
developmental players, you had
603
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,400
three, 25, every school will
take a swing.
604
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:28,300
And a kid, every school would
take a swing at three to five
605
00:39:28,300 --> 00:39:32,700
kids to get on their roster just
to be like, he has potential.
606
00:39:32,700 --> 00:39:34,300
What if we're the guys that
unlock it?
607
00:39:36,100 --> 00:39:39,300
They are so it's such an enough
Institute.
608
00:39:39,300 --> 00:39:42,500
I don't want to go into a TWA
continues to have their head up
609
00:39:42,500 --> 00:39:45,700
their own ass.
Oh that's not that's not going
610
00:39:45,700 --> 00:39:50,400
to change until I see definitive
proof.
611
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,500
I'm going to completely continue
to shit all over them.
612
00:39:54,600 --> 00:40:02,300
They are a awful governing body
especially when it comes to the
613
00:40:02,300 --> 00:40:05,900
things that ironically make them
the most money.
614
00:40:07,100 --> 00:40:09,200
Exactly.
All right.
615
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:16,300
Let's put the this Brian being
used last week broke for shop
616
00:40:16,300 --> 00:40:21,100
for now on the Highland Springs
defensive lineman D, committing,
617
00:40:21,300 --> 00:40:27,700
after Simon has Loi.
There is so many things not
618
00:40:27,700 --> 00:40:32,900
adding up to this story.
I mean, every you want to know
619
00:40:32,900 --> 00:40:37,200
why, because when he committed
about Days.
620
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,500
Prior to this announcement of be
commitment.
621
00:40:39,500 --> 00:40:43,400
I mean he was literally one of
the first guys that was on his
622
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,500
post.
Oh yeah.
623
00:40:45,900 --> 00:40:49,900
I mean like you said as of just
a few days before this went down
624
00:40:50,900 --> 00:40:53,900
he was he was retweeting and
saying, welcome home brother,
625
00:40:53,900 --> 00:40:57,100
and all this other stuff.
So obviously whatever has
626
00:40:57,100 --> 00:41:03,000
happened was something that
either was unforeseen or was
627
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:08,700
something that somebody thought
somebody was doing something and
628
00:41:08,700 --> 00:41:15,000
they weren't we've had Whispers
and stuff on the timeline about
629
00:41:15,700 --> 00:41:18,300
the off.
The field stuff playing a role
630
00:41:18,300 --> 00:41:20,300
here.
We don't know what it is.
631
00:41:20,300 --> 00:41:22,100
I'm not going to speculate what
it is.
632
00:41:23,100 --> 00:41:29,200
Yeah, we don't see it seems like
that is the why I'm not specific
633
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:33,400
here but generally that's the
why I think the what's next is
634
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:38,300
what's most important is it
Point, this isn't a prior regime
635
00:41:38,300 --> 00:41:41,200
failure here.
This is just one of those things
636
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:45,700
that happens.
So well the what's next is this
637
00:41:45,700 --> 00:41:49,900
is just a gray shirt, is he, is
he going to Juco for a year?
638
00:41:50,500 --> 00:41:51,900
He said his approval is still
open.
639
00:41:51,900 --> 00:41:57,800
I don't know if that is if If
we, if he at this point, I don't
640
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,100
know if we've read about it as
Lor we haven't gotten official
641
00:42:00,100 --> 00:42:04,600
word on that.
Yeah, this point if we have and
642
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:08,500
some other institution wants to
pick him up and I guess it's
643
00:42:08,500 --> 00:42:12,700
free game, but otherwise this
looks like a potential Juco and
644
00:42:12,700 --> 00:42:14,800
then we kind of make
potentially, keep our
645
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:19,100
relationship with them and try
to Circle back for for the next
646
00:42:19,100 --> 00:42:22,300
class here.
Yeah, it's going to be very key
647
00:42:22,300 --> 00:42:26,100
of what he does, whether it's a
prep or giucose, You we don't
648
00:42:26,100 --> 00:42:29,300
see a lot of guys prep anymore,
but depending on what the
649
00:42:29,300 --> 00:42:34,400
situation is, if you see him go
prep, I fully expect him to come
650
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:39,800
back to Tech if he goes Juco.
That's usually a little longer
651
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,900
rap because if you're going
Juco, it's almost a two-year
652
00:42:42,900 --> 00:42:45,600
commitment.
It would you co school and then
653
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,500
getting two years at your
four-year institution.
654
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:53,100
So what in the oncoming days and
obviously we'll be following
655
00:42:53,100 --> 00:42:55,000
this when he makes a decision of
what.
656
00:42:55,200 --> 00:43:00,700
Going to do next year but it's
just it kind of hurts your heart
657
00:43:00,700 --> 00:43:06,500
because he is under the radar.
He is one of those Team guys and
658
00:43:06,500 --> 00:43:09,400
you love when he committed it,
even though he's always been
659
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,400
kind of the tweener.
Was he going to be a big end?
660
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,300
Is he going to play?
You know?
661
00:43:14,300 --> 00:43:17,900
Undersized 3.
You felt like he was going to
662
00:43:17,900 --> 00:43:23,300
have success here and now it's
back seated at a position of
663
00:43:23,300 --> 00:43:26,700
need.
Where if he Comes into Tech over
664
00:43:26,700 --> 00:43:28,700
the summer, gets on the way
program.
665
00:43:29,700 --> 00:43:33,700
We figure out his body type in 6
months he could be potentially
666
00:43:33,700 --> 00:43:37,500
helping out next year.
So it stinks on every single
667
00:43:37,500 --> 00:43:42,100
front from, you know, just a
personal standpoint of liking a
668
00:43:42,100 --> 00:43:46,400
kid and then from a standpoint
of football saying this guy,
669
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,600
potentially could have helped
the team in 2024 as a depth
670
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:53,500
piece in years down the road.
Yeah, I mean, you know, we
671
00:43:53,500 --> 00:43:57,600
talked glowingly about, Ishod
Purnell on this podcast is one
672
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:01,700
of our favorite recruits from
this class so this isn't
673
00:44:01,700 --> 00:44:03,700
something that we're saying are
we doesn't matter.
674
00:44:03,700 --> 00:44:10,500
He definitely matters and not
just because he's a potential as
675
00:44:10,500 --> 00:44:16,600
a true freshman of potential 3D
that either your defensive in or
676
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,600
playing three technique there.
That's not, that's not the only
677
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,800
thing that we're talking about
here, we're talking about its
678
00:44:22,900 --> 00:44:25,500
This is just a player that the
type of player that you want to
679
00:44:25,500 --> 00:44:29,100
have on your team, from a
leadership perspective and the
680
00:44:29,100 --> 00:44:33,100
way he was recruiting other
players to come to Blacksburg.
681
00:44:33,700 --> 00:44:35,400
That's the type of player you
want on your roster.
682
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,500
Full, stop always.
So it definitely hurts anybody
683
00:44:38,500 --> 00:44:44,900
saying otherwise, you know,
You're lying to yourself.
684
00:44:44,900 --> 00:44:47,500
I mean, it still, if it's a big
move I just don't think it
685
00:44:47,500 --> 00:44:52,000
necessarily is something that we
can really dwell on because it's
686
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,100
not really anything that the
program could have done
687
00:44:54,100 --> 00:44:56,200
differently to stop this from
happening.
688
00:44:56,900 --> 00:45:00,000
Exactly.
All right, let's flip this.
689
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:04,800
It's that if the title of our
episode Camp season in buddy, do
690
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:09,600
they have them in Blacksburg
this month seven camps?
691
00:45:09,700 --> 00:45:13,300
Basically, from now until I
think the 26th, Is the last one
692
00:45:13,300 --> 00:45:18,300
or 27, that is a lot of camps in
a short period of time and then
693
00:45:18,300 --> 00:45:26,100
one additional one in July.
You know this is this is what it
694
00:45:26,100 --> 00:45:28,700
was pre kovin.
This is what we saw every year.
695
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:35,000
Yeah so this is the return of
what I think a lot of us have
696
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:39,600
been missing about the offseason
is Yap like this where you get
697
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:43,500
guys on campus?
A lot of the time were come out
698
00:45:43,500 --> 00:45:48,100
see how they do get a lot of
some offers Throne that weren't
699
00:45:48,100 --> 00:45:50,500
committable all of a sudden our
and you get a bunch of people in
700
00:45:50,500 --> 00:45:57,100
the boat at one Yeah, you get
these these guys that you know,
701
00:45:57,100 --> 00:45:59,400
you were on the fence but they
get to Blacksburg.
702
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,500
They enjoy that good time.
The camp and all of a sudden, a
703
00:46:02,500 --> 00:46:06,200
guy that was a Penn State or
UNC, lean is now committed to
704
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,500
Virginia Tech, that's the type
of shit we like to see.
705
00:46:09,500 --> 00:46:12,200
That's the type of shit that I
hope we see in the coming weeks
706
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,200
and I'm looking forward to it.
I'm really always.
707
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:19,200
This is one of my favorite times
is kind of seeing how this plays
708
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,400
out on the recruiting Trail.
So I'm looking forward to to
709
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,200
June and and what we're able to
accomplish.
710
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,900
Hopefully on the recruiting
Trail 100%.
711
00:46:26,900 --> 00:46:30,100
And you mentioned it already.
Like I always think it's always
712
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,400
like I'm thinking right now. 23
sleepers, there's probably some
713
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,800
low rated three star that's
going to get to the camp and at
714
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,100
these camps are a lot of times
there's Rivals.
715
00:46:39,100 --> 00:46:42,300
There's two four seven Riders,
there's evaluators for them.
716
00:46:42,300 --> 00:46:45,100
They're right.
There's guys on getting height
717
00:46:45,100 --> 00:46:48,700
weight clocking looking how they
did on shuttle drills, how they
718
00:46:48,700 --> 00:46:51,200
perform in these activities we
don't want to know.
719
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:55,200
Yes, yes, we do.
For those who are really
720
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,900
interested in a camp, our
episode.
721
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:02,800
It's June 23rd of last year with
Coach, Robbie something you want
722
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:04,100
to know what goes on inside
these camps.
723
00:47:04,100 --> 00:47:08,000
Listen to that episode beginning
in because it is a great
724
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,900
knowledge point of what happens.
But you sit here and I'm sitting
725
00:47:11,900 --> 00:47:15,900
here thinking, there's going to
be some kid that's on our radar.
726
00:47:16,700 --> 00:47:20,500
Maybe an in-state kid that we
really want heavy, he gets down
727
00:47:21,300 --> 00:47:27,100
He blows Camp up.
And actually coach come thing.
728
00:47:27,100 --> 00:47:29,700
Yep, there it goes right there.
It's who's going to camp for
729
00:47:29,700 --> 00:47:31,000
free?
That's who to watch.
730
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:35,200
I don't know how we can
determine that Robbie you and I
731
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:40,700
will find out.
But but who's the sleeper, who's
732
00:47:40,700 --> 00:47:43,900
the kid who they thought was?
511 is actually 62.
733
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,500
Who's the kid?
They thought was 170 s actually
734
00:47:46,500 --> 00:47:49,100
190.
Who's the kid?
735
00:47:49,100 --> 00:47:52,700
That's got more muscle mass
because a lot of these kids have
736
00:47:52,700 --> 00:47:56,000
not been seen in six to eight
months and now they're going to
737
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,500
start being seen again.
Now, you mentioned it though,
738
00:47:59,500 --> 00:48:02,100
these kids have only been seen
in past and they haven't been
739
00:48:02,100 --> 00:48:04,800
seen up close and personal.
So that's really something else
740
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,000
too.
I'll never forget.
741
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:11,500
Give me invite up to UVA.
And Ron Prince telling me that I
742
00:48:11,500 --> 00:48:17,200
look bigger and pads Fuck him
till this day.
743
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,400
Yeah, Ibis.
I must look bigger and pads.
744
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,800
Fuck you.
But it's also Brian mentioned,
745
00:48:26,900 --> 00:48:30,400
getting a kid on campus that
potentially may be texting the
746
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:34,800
top five and you can get them in
and closing flip them, but it's
747
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,200
also a great chance now come by
building relationships.
748
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,400
We've heard it from Brent pry,
the whole time.
749
00:48:40,900 --> 00:48:46,100
Getting the jump on 24, we're
behind Prize already admitted
750
00:48:46,100 --> 00:48:49,200
that, but having these camps and
having these younger kids come
751
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:53,200
in quicker, way to get that
relationship built is having
752
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,200
them in house and having your
staff.
753
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,500
You know that we feel is
significantly better than what
754
00:48:59,500 --> 00:49:03,800
we had get in there ear and show
them things and, you know,
755
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,200
preach what we want here at
Virginia Tech.
756
00:49:09,100 --> 00:49:11,900
Yeah, like I said, I think this
is a, this is a good time to
757
00:49:11,900 --> 00:49:14,300
find those sleepers guys that
are bigger than you thought.
758
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,800
I think the bigger thing for me
is that, you know, I want to see
759
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:22,700
us some of the bigger names that
we've been targeting on this
760
00:49:22,700 --> 00:49:26,500
trail that you talked about
earlier, won't be, get that big
761
00:49:26,500 --> 00:49:29,600
fish.
Here's where you get those guys
762
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:33,700
on campus in an environment with
a lot of other guys and they
763
00:49:33,700 --> 00:49:36,800
start selling the program to
themselves, right?
764
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,500
I mean there's going to be other
players that have already
765
00:49:38,500 --> 00:49:40,100
committed.
They're coming to these Cancers
766
00:49:40,100 --> 00:49:43,300
and the other players that have
a heavy interest in Virginia
767
00:49:43,300 --> 00:49:46,600
Tech that are going to sell it.
Sell this thing for you a little
768
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:50,500
bit, once you get everybody in
one area, let's close some of
769
00:49:50,500 --> 00:49:53,400
those bigger fish.
Let's get maybe a flip here and
770
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:58,600
there of guys that are leaning
to other schools and get a
771
00:49:58,607 --> 00:50:01,000
little bit of momentum, I think
we're doing pretty well on the
772
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:04,700
recruiting Trail overall, but I
want to see more of those High
773
00:50:04,700 --> 00:50:08,200
threes and maybe low four stars
in this class.
774
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,100
I'd like to see A couple of them
thrown in there too, so we can
775
00:50:11,100 --> 00:50:13,300
get a little momentum carried
into next year.
776
00:50:14,300 --> 00:50:17,200
I know we're behind this year.
Everybody knows we're behind
777
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,100
this year at the same time.
We got to start winning some of
778
00:50:20,100 --> 00:50:23,800
these winnable battles so we can
start climbing the ladder a
779
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:27,600
little bit exactly.
Alright Brawn.
780
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:35,300
So Every year cbs4, the puts
together, their top 65.
781
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:40,700
Power five, coaches.
You guys don't recall.
782
00:50:40,900 --> 00:50:44,800
Last year we actually run.
We did ours.
783
00:50:44,900 --> 00:50:47,800
We talked about our opt-in
coaches fun to do.
784
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:51,100
It's fun to discuss.
Usually the guy that does it is
785
00:50:51,100 --> 00:50:53,900
time for Nellie and I'll say
this comp or Nelly is one of my
786
00:50:53,900 --> 00:50:56,100
favorite college football
writers out there.
787
00:50:56,500 --> 00:51:00,200
He is, is he comes at it with a
very different approach.
788
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,700
He's a really intelligent guy,
he lives up in Big Ten country
789
00:51:03,700 --> 00:51:08,600
so he doesn't have You know he's
I think he's an Illinois grad or
790
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,400
he likes Illinois or that's the
closest team doing good.
791
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:15,200
Have the automatic SEC buys he
might have subconscious as
792
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:20,500
exactly.
So he came up with the list this
793
00:51:20,500 --> 00:51:24,000
year and I pulled it up and he
only did his top 25 first and
794
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:27,300
it's the it's the normal stuff
and you know but then he
795
00:51:27,300 --> 00:51:33,200
released 26 265 just a few days
ago and of course I clicked on
796
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,200
it because I wanted to see his
thoughts on Brent.
797
00:51:35,300 --> 00:51:37,400
Fry.
Well.
798
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:46,800
I'm still a fan but Tom Fornelli
ranked Brent price 65 of 65 in.
799
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:50,400
This is what he put on him and
not some of the other guys were
800
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,900
going to discuss here.
I have a simple rule for filling
801
00:51:53,900 --> 00:51:55,700
out my ballot.
If you've never been a head
802
00:51:55,700 --> 00:51:58,500
coach before, you're starting at
the bottom of my rankings.
803
00:51:58,700 --> 00:52:01,400
That's not true.
We'll discuss that in a second.
804
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:05,100
Many of my fellow voters feel
the same, so price shouldn't
805
00:52:05,100 --> 00:52:09,300
take it personally as the new
head, man at Virginia Tech for
806
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,300
Pears to begin his first season
as a head coach at any level.
807
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:15,900
All right.
Okay cool.
808
00:52:16,700 --> 00:52:20,100
Now there are six guys on here
that are first-time head
809
00:52:20,100 --> 00:52:21,800
coaches.
In addition to Brent fry.
810
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:26,100
That we're going to talk about
the first three.
811
00:52:26,100 --> 00:52:29,400
I have absolutely no issue with
where they're ranked and that
812
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,100
they're ranked ahead of a front
pry.
813
00:52:31,500 --> 00:52:34,800
You just lick before, we get to
the veins, let me throw a caveat
814
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:40,200
out here.
This isn't a ranking of baseball
815
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:43,500
on the roster makeup or based on
the roster town are based on
816
00:52:43,500 --> 00:52:47,500
this that and the third this is
literally just based on what
817
00:52:47,500 --> 00:52:51,900
this coach has done in the past
where they are ranked right now.
818
00:52:52,300 --> 00:52:54,700
Has nothing to Do what their
current year, roster makeup or
819
00:52:54,707 --> 00:53:00,100
any of that shit.
So, with that being the, the
820
00:53:00,100 --> 00:53:02,800
parameters, I'll let Curtis
continue here.
821
00:53:03,100 --> 00:53:07,900
All right, there for guys are
tuning, three guys that do the
822
00:53:07,900 --> 00:53:10,200
pedigree of the coach and where
they landed.
823
00:53:10,300 --> 00:53:13,300
I have absolutely no issue with
wear their rank or that they're
824
00:53:13,300 --> 00:53:18,100
ranked had a Brent pry.
One is Brent, venables venables
825
00:53:18,100 --> 00:53:20,100
has been one of the best
defensive coordinators over the
826
00:53:20,100 --> 00:53:22,200
last 10 years in college
football.
827
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:24,900
He's ranked 45th.
No issue.
828
00:53:25,300 --> 00:53:29,500
Also, Tom you put somebody way
really high as a first-year head
829
00:53:29,500 --> 00:53:31,300
coach.
So you're not living by your own
830
00:53:31,300 --> 00:53:34,200
rules.
Sexy venables could have been
831
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:39,500
higher if some of the Oklahoma's
best talent had a trip out to
832
00:53:39,500 --> 00:53:41,800
Southern Cal but he still got
top 15.
833
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,800
Yeah he's exactly, but I'm
saying, he could have been top
834
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:48,700
40 if he did lose a decent
portion of his down.
835
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:53,000
I'm the second is Marcus Freeman
at Notre Dame I have no issue
836
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:56,300
with them being there with his
credentials coaching there last
837
00:53:56,300 --> 00:53:58,700
year.
No issue with him being there.
838
00:53:59,700 --> 00:54:01,300
I have no issue with the
Georgia.
839
00:54:01,300 --> 00:54:04,000
Defensive coordinator, Dan
Landing, who went up to Oregon
840
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:05,600
at 54.
No issue.
841
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,800
You've been, you know,
coordinator Georgia won the
842
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,100
National Championship.
He's going to a pretty much
843
00:54:11,100 --> 00:54:16,600
about a top-10 roster.
No issues, no issue.
844
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,600
So I'm cool with those guys.
But again, we're not supposed to
845
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:25,200
pay no attention to the roster.
So I don't know how I feel like
846
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,100
the rankings are paying
attention to the roster even
847
00:54:28,100 --> 00:54:31,200
though they're saying they're
not on their parenting to the
848
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:34,700
roster and where they go.
Well, you would think that but
849
00:54:34,700 --> 00:54:39,900
then, you know, we go here.
These are my three issues and
850
00:54:39,900 --> 00:54:44,600
we're going to start at number
62 and it's Joey McGuire.
851
00:54:45,100 --> 00:54:52,300
No, John McGuire is Brian.
I do now makes this technique
852
00:54:52,300 --> 00:54:54,700
Texas Tech head coach you got
hard really early in the
853
00:54:54,700 --> 00:54:56,700
process?
I think he was the first guy
854
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:00,500
now.
You know, Fornelli puts on here
855
00:55:00,500 --> 00:55:04,400
about how excited the fans are,
as he has High School
856
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:05,800
connections in the state of
Texas.
857
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:10,200
But basically up until 2017 he
was a high school football coach
858
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:13,000
in Texas.
The last five years.
859
00:55:13,500 --> 00:55:16,200
He's been a coach not a
coordinator.
860
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:21,000
And associate head coach at
Baylor under Matt ruin.
861
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:25,700
Dave Aranda, Brian, how long has
Brent pry?
862
00:55:25,900 --> 00:55:31,800
Coached Collegiate football.
A lot longer than Joey McGwire
863
00:55:32,500 --> 00:55:36,700
Galloping.
So you sit here and it's like,
864
00:55:36,900 --> 00:55:40,000
yeah, Joey's, a good recruiter,
but Joey's coached at the
865
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:44,300
highest level of Collegiate
football for five years and he
866
00:55:44,300 --> 00:55:50,900
wasn't even a coordinator who
says 26 years to do you count
867
00:55:50,900 --> 00:55:54,200
his GA time or the time he was
at East Prosper with East.
868
00:55:55,200 --> 00:56:02,500
The the D to school before he
came to GAA. 29. 29 years.
869
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:07,800
So there's my first issue.
This is his first head coach
870
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:11,100
job, just as Brent Pride, he is
coach for five years.
871
00:56:11,100 --> 00:56:13,400
He's never ran.
He's not a particular coach.
872
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:17,000
He is a recruiting coach he's
just been two years younger than
873
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:18,800
Pride.
He's only yeah, two years young
874
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:22,700
and pie.
He also is going to Lubbock,
875
00:56:23,300 --> 00:56:26,600
there's been two people that had
success at Texas Tech Spike
876
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:31,900
Dykes and Mike Leach no one else
has had success at Texas Tech in
877
00:56:31,900 --> 00:56:38,100
the last 35 years.
So minimal time is a high as a
878
00:56:38,107 --> 00:56:42,300
Collegiate coach going to a
program that has only had two
879
00:56:42,300 --> 00:56:46,600
good runs of success.
In recruiting against the likes
880
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:51,500
of Brent, venables, against
Texas, A&M against Texas against
881
00:56:51,500 --> 00:56:55,900
LSU against Arkansas.
He's 62 them.
882
00:56:58,500 --> 00:57:05,200
Prime.
Yeah, I really don't have.
883
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:13,600
I put him dead last because of
coaching me was file is based on
884
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:17,500
cozy experience and pedigree of
program dead fucking last.
885
00:57:18,100 --> 00:57:22,300
Now the next guy who is one spot
ahead, is the one you really
886
00:57:22,300 --> 00:57:27,500
went off on today and that's
Mike Elko who is going to do
887
00:57:28,300 --> 00:57:33,200
Elko, basically started really
guided his flame going at Wake
888
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,100
Forest.
Had a good defense there.
889
00:57:35,100 --> 00:57:37,100
Went to Notre Dame.
Good.
890
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:41,500
Offensive coordinator there.
And then he went to Texas, A&M
891
00:57:41,500 --> 00:57:45,100
with Jimbo and put together.
Good defense.
892
00:57:45,100 --> 00:57:48,400
They're not world-beater, but a
good defense.
893
00:57:49,700 --> 00:57:54,300
He's going to do.
Elko has not coached as long as
894
00:57:54,300 --> 00:57:58,200
pry.
But Brian going because you were
895
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:01,600
on a soliloquy earlier today
like how badly people might go
896
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:03,800
ahead of him.
Number one, he's into
897
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:07,400
automatically automatically
should put him Below.
898
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:11,900
Virginia Tech number two, he's
coming from Texas A&M.
899
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:16,000
He has a defense that in the
time that they were sharing
900
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,000
defensive coordinator rolls per
I had better.
901
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:22,000
Overall defense has.
Let's also talk about how Texas
902
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:25,500
A&M is essential to UNC of the
fucking suc.
903
00:58:26,300 --> 00:58:28,800
And yeah, they can recruit.
Yeah, they get all this talent
904
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,300
but they don't do shit with a
twins.
905
00:58:32,700 --> 00:58:38,400
I mean.
Texas A&M has not one shit, at
906
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:41,600
least, brick cry.
And our buddy, James Franklin
907
00:58:42,500 --> 00:58:44,800
have done something in the Big
Ten.
908
00:58:44,900 --> 00:58:46,900
They want me to be know how to
State.
909
00:58:47,100 --> 00:58:50,300
They believe they've done the
things that you want a team to
910
00:58:50,300 --> 00:58:55,400
do.
So I mean I just pedigree wise I
911
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:58,600
don't think what Elko did it?
Texas A&M was any more
912
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:04,100
impressive than what Pride did
at Penn State and I think that
913
00:59:04,500 --> 00:59:06,600
cry He's at the better program
right now.
914
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:10,800
Yeah.
And that's that's no bias but if
915
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:13,900
you can present bias to this
I'll gladly listen to it.
916
00:59:13,900 --> 00:59:15,900
But Duke is not a better
football program.
917
00:59:15,900 --> 00:59:18,300
The Virginia Tech.
Know.
918
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:26,900
So and even in our worst we blew
the last year we were so.
919
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:32,400
So so please, you know, in the
bullshit there, you know, and I
920
00:59:32,408 --> 00:59:40,200
know it's one spot. but,
Motherfucker, you 64 Brin price
921
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:45,500
should be at least one spot
ahead of him in 63, which 63 is
922
00:59:45,500 --> 00:59:48,200
dickered from Washington who I
did put on here because the guy
923
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,300
Coast, half a season, had a good
record.
924
00:59:50,500 --> 00:59:52,300
He should have been
significantly further down the
925
00:59:52,300 --> 00:59:55,100
list.
That's my opinion, but he's
926
00:59:55,100 --> 01:00:02,200
going from Notre Dame and am to
preferable, top, 10 recruiting
927
01:00:02,300 --> 01:00:05,300
getting a lot of talent programs
to do.
928
01:00:05,300 --> 01:00:08,600
He's going back to his Wait days
where his best defense was 46,
929
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:12,500
which for Wake is very good,
he's very good.
930
01:00:13,500 --> 01:00:19,300
So what you're telling me is
he's going to have Duke, oh it's
931
01:00:19,300 --> 01:00:20,800
coming.
It's coming.
932
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,400
Put that on the screen, it's
coming.
933
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:30,500
So At least one spot ahead of
might go join McGuire at the end
934
01:00:30,500 --> 01:00:34,400
because Jordan choir hadn't have
the thing now, last but not
935
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:37,500
least.
Tony Elliott.
936
01:00:39,300 --> 01:00:45,900
Tony Pony.
So it will never die, its 60th,
937
01:00:45,900 --> 01:00:49,200
they will never die.
So basically this is the thing,
938
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,600
the longtime Clemson offensive
coordinator finally gets his
939
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:54,200
chance to run the show on his
own.
940
01:00:54,500 --> 01:00:56,700
Elliott has coaching great
players in his time with the
941
01:00:56,700 --> 01:01:01,400
Tigers and he thinks Virginia is
the perfect place to take
942
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:03,800
commands.
He inherits an offensive, scored
943
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:07,100
a lot of points last season.
His offense last season didn't
944
01:01:07,100 --> 01:01:10,700
score, a lot of points as an
offensive coordinator, and they
945
01:01:10,700 --> 01:01:12,400
haven't scored a lot of points
since Trevor's.
946
01:01:12,500 --> 01:01:17,900
Last year.
My issue again with the Virginia
947
01:01:17,900 --> 01:01:23,100
thing in toning was a CO o see
when they want a national
948
01:01:23,100 --> 01:01:25,300
championship with Jeff Scott so
he was a coating.
949
01:01:25,300 --> 01:01:28,300
See not the full time OC.
Jeff Scott obviously went South
950
01:01:28,300 --> 01:01:30,300
Florida.
That's really ugly.
951
01:01:30,300 --> 01:01:34,400
He's probably getting fired in
October and let's see well the
952
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:37,900
miracle out.
But again, I look at this and
953
01:01:37,900 --> 01:01:42,800
it's like, okay, he's had, he's
not coached as long but he's had
954
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:45,800
more success.
So, if you want to put them
955
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:49,400
ahead that's fine in that case,
but I look at where he's going.
956
01:01:50,700 --> 01:01:53,000
I also look at the regimes
around them.
957
01:01:55,100 --> 01:01:58,400
Do brown.
You said it to me earlier today.
958
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:02,300
Who are their best tires?
I mean, their best hires were,
959
01:02:02,300 --> 01:02:05,900
there were tensions, keeping
Hagen's and keeping 2J where
960
01:02:05,900 --> 01:02:09,900
their best hires kitchens is the
only outside higher than anyone
961
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:12,800
would honestly get their skirt
blown up a little bit over.
962
01:02:14,500 --> 01:02:19,400
So you got three guys most of
them on the offensive side of
963
01:02:19,408 --> 01:02:24,200
the ball there.
You know, what's the defense
964
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:27,000
giving look like what they going
to do on defense?
965
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:30,000
They they were awful on defense.
They were also in the secondary.
966
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:34,600
So, I don't know if that's going
to be a better situation for
967
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:37,500
them and that's even if we're
counting, you know, makeup of
968
01:02:37,500 --> 01:02:39,500
the roster and all this other
bullshit.
969
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:42,800
Well, make up a roster, your
coaching staff in general
970
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:46,800
because I think, you know, if
you look at what Brent, did
971
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:51,800
coaching staff wise to me, you
take, you take a guy like Chris
972
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:56,200
Moore who was, is a protege of
his who had been an SCC in an
973
01:02:56,200 --> 01:03:00,900
FSU for a few years.
You take a guy like Derek Jones,
974
01:03:00,900 --> 01:03:04,600
who has Q coach did you come to
cutcliffe who coached at Ole
975
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:07,700
Miss and Texas?
Tech he is a proven division.
976
01:03:07,700 --> 01:03:11,700
One football coach.
There is no more no less than to
977
01:03:11,700 --> 01:03:20,000
say that about him and then got
like Boeing and FL hope, you
978
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:24,600
know, ACC guy.
But then in just, just in this
979
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:28,300
alone, Grim Pride, getting joe
Rudolph should put him ahead of
980
01:03:28,300 --> 01:03:31,000
Tony Elliott.
He literally went out and got
981
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:33,600
one of the best offensive line
coach been in the country and
982
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:37,200
convinced him to come together
as good as retaining to Jay was
983
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:39,600
Rudolph.
Definitely Trump them try.
984
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:43,300
If you're retaining to Jay, he's
your best coaching move and the
985
01:03:43,300 --> 01:03:45,500
coaching move, the Promenade was
better than that.
986
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:51,300
But that game over man came in
but if it's just them Ron I'll
987
01:03:51,300 --> 01:03:54,800
look at Brent Prime say Brooke
prai has been at Vanderbilt and
988
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:57,300
Penn State.
The one thing that he has been
989
01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:00,900
the whole time as he is been the
defensive coordinator or Cody,
990
01:04:00,900 --> 01:04:07,600
see is consistency.
Where Tony, especially with DJ.
991
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:12,800
The wheels fell off a little bit
with Kelly Bryant.
992
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:17,800
Remember Kelly, Brian, I do.
The team was good.
993
01:04:17,900 --> 01:04:20,700
Not great on offense.
Yeah.
994
01:04:20,700 --> 01:04:25,300
And it can we say this too?
I mean, I know that Tony's had
995
01:04:25,300 --> 01:04:29,800
some success recruiting in a lot
of different areas with this is
996
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:32,900
still his first time coaching
outside of South Carolina.
997
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:38,700
It is It is you Berman, what
Berman and Clemson, right?
998
01:04:38,900 --> 01:04:44,100
Yeah, that's it.
So we're in product and what?
999
01:04:45,100 --> 01:04:52,100
Pennsylvania Virginia Georgia
Tennessee, Pennsylvania.
1000
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:56,100
So basically he's got like a
weird little diamond shape.
1001
01:04:57,200 --> 01:05:00,900
He's touched pretty much
everywhere in the footprint in
1002
01:05:00,900 --> 01:05:02,800
terms of recruiting in his
career.
1003
01:05:03,500 --> 01:05:08,200
So at worst and worst, I believe
Brent price.
1004
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:13,400
Should be 62 worst.
So we'll see.
1005
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:16,500
We'll see.
But the first two I think got me
1006
01:05:16,500 --> 01:05:17,500
more than anything.
The last one.
1007
01:05:17,500 --> 01:05:21,000
It's a UVA coach.
So, we have to talk about it.
1008
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:24,400
We haven't talked shit because
it's UVA and, and Elliot was a
1009
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:29,700
primary target for a lot of the
fan base and potentially win, at
1010
01:05:29,707 --> 01:05:32,700
least when he started the
process because of how far
1011
01:05:32,700 --> 01:05:34,400
things.
Got what?
1012
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:38,000
Looks like they got in last
cycle when we thought, went a
1013
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:40,600
was going to get fired after
2020.
1014
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:45,000
So we just listen, our brains
were a little loose, then that's
1015
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:50,100
all I can say our brains were a
little bit loose during because
1016
01:05:50,500 --> 01:05:54,000
we were, we had Scar Tissue, we
just needed a change, who's
1017
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:56,800
needed a change?
Well, I think, you know you get
1018
01:05:56,800 --> 01:06:00,500
more information.
I think we saw your 2021 if
1019
01:06:00,500 --> 01:06:06,000
nothing else gave us a glimpse.
Clemson's offense without Trevor
1020
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:11,800
Lawrence.
Well, but 2016, or 2017 gave us
1021
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:13,600
a view of them without DeShaun
Watson.
1022
01:06:14,300 --> 01:06:16,300
The writing was kind of on the
wall then.
1023
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:20,600
And then they get Trevor for the
next three seasons and won a
1024
01:06:20,607 --> 01:06:23,500
national championship, make way.
All the only thing you can see
1025
01:06:23,500 --> 01:06:25,400
right now is that he's
definitely walking into a
1026
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:30,400
favorable quarterback situation
and UVA, he is, but they've lost
1027
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:35,300
some stuff there.
All right.
1028
01:06:35,300 --> 01:06:38,600
So speaking of changes, Brian.
I sent you this article because
1029
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:43,400
you hadn't seen it.
The town of Blacksburg is
1030
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:46,100
proposing and is our last little
bit of the night.
1031
01:06:46,100 --> 01:06:50,700
The town of blackburg is
proposing tweaks to the mass
1032
01:06:50,700 --> 01:06:54,100
outdoor Gathering ordinance
because of what happens on
1033
01:06:54,100 --> 01:06:56,000
Center Street steering game
days.
1034
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:03,100
Yeah, somehow, this is getting
played on his like, well people
1035
01:07:03,100 --> 01:07:06,500
are having parties in their
walking off the paths, on the
1036
01:07:06,508 --> 01:07:10,000
way to the stadium walking,
they're going through the woods
1037
01:07:10,300 --> 01:07:14,000
and they're going off the path.
Listen.
1038
01:07:15,500 --> 01:07:18,400
First of all, they need to be
very kind of glad.
1039
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:22,600
You literally have this section
right here where the mass amount
1040
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:25,400
of students I would guess.
Last time we walk through their
1041
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:29,800
back in 19 this probably that
that was a lightness.
1042
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:31,800
Probably 700 kids there.
Yeah.
1043
01:07:32,700 --> 01:07:35,600
Yeah and that was on a
Thanksgiving weekend so I'm
1044
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:39,000
assuming it's probably five to
seven hundred more.
1045
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:42,000
On the normal game day.
So probably 1500 kids?
1046
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:46,700
You're at least getting kids
congregated in one location near
1047
01:07:46,700 --> 01:07:50,200
the stadium.
In the some of the crap that
1048
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:51,700
they're proposing is just
stupid.
1049
01:07:51,700 --> 01:07:59,400
It's like what's also do but
it's like they're here but it's
1050
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:01,500
not even enforceable.
Like what's the point of the
1051
01:08:02,100 --> 01:08:03,800
wanted to point out of the point
of the word means?
1052
01:08:04,100 --> 01:08:07,200
But any, any in their talk about
people going through the woods,
1053
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:09,900
getting knocked off path and the
drunkenness and all, well, a
1054
01:08:09,900 --> 01:08:11,700
they're in college.
It's just going to happen.
1055
01:08:12,100 --> 01:08:15,100
But here's a bigger key.
If you go to a Virginia Tech
1056
01:08:15,100 --> 01:08:17,899
football game or if you have
been going, especially over the
1057
01:08:17,899 --> 01:08:20,899
last Decade, the Center Street
has gotten bigger and bigger and
1058
01:08:20,899 --> 01:08:26,200
bigger. you know, not to go to
Center Street, it's going to be
1059
01:08:28,100 --> 01:08:30,100
Bash.
It's going to be a lot of
1060
01:08:30,100 --> 01:08:31,899
people.
It's going to be tougher to get
1061
01:08:31,899 --> 01:08:34,899
down Center Street through the
woods over to the stadium.
1062
01:08:36,300 --> 01:08:40,700
In those Common Sense fans are
going to avoid Center Street if
1063
01:08:40,899 --> 01:08:43,000
if they have a problem with it.
Yeah, if they have a problem
1064
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:47,500
with that type of atmosphere on
their way to the stadium, which
1065
01:08:47,500 --> 01:08:51,000
is all non family-friendly
atmosphere on the way to the
1066
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:54,600
stadium.
I'm using air quotes there for
1067
01:08:54,600 --> 01:09:03,500
the people listening important.
Just I mean this is this is no
1068
01:09:03,500 --> 01:09:07,200
fun police.
Yeah, the no fun police.
1069
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:13,100
It's it's very to me is very
counterproductive because if you
1070
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:15,899
go to the game you know what it
is.
1071
01:09:19,300 --> 01:09:24,100
So you know to avoid it and in
some cases like for us if we go
1072
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:28,800
just me and brine well we
probably partaking walking
1073
01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:31,500
through Center Street to go to
the stadium yet because it's you
1074
01:09:31,508 --> 01:09:34,500
know, huh.
Make sure you reminisce on
1075
01:09:34,500 --> 01:09:35,300
Saturday.
Yeah.
1076
01:09:38,700 --> 01:09:47,100
Back in my day.
But so for those out there who
1077
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:50,899
live in Blacksburg, you know, go
and just say this is stupid,
1078
01:09:50,899 --> 01:09:55,300
stop it right there.
And we know one of our favorite
1079
01:09:55,300 --> 01:09:58,500
people will be probably at that
town council meeting.
1080
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:01,900
Just Jeremy.
Don't drink any Jameson before
1081
01:10:01,900 --> 01:10:04,300
you go.
Okay, we can wear the crown.
1082
01:10:04,700 --> 01:10:09,600
You can wait.
You're not mrs.
1083
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:13,500
Bartel Brian is anything broken
since we started, hey, only an
1084
01:10:13,500 --> 01:10:14,500
hour.
And 10 minutes.
1085
01:10:14,500 --> 01:10:19,900
This is a short episode.
So trim episode number by our
1086
01:10:19,900 --> 01:10:22,900
standards at least, not seeing
anything.
1087
01:10:22,900 --> 01:10:26,200
That's broken in the last little
while here.
1088
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:31,900
So that is going to wrap up this
episode of The Boundary Corner
1089
01:10:31,900 --> 01:10:35,900
podcast, I'm Curtis Wilson.
Hi Brian sequence.
1090
01:10:37,300 --> 01:10:41,500
Visit our website, boundary
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1091
01:10:41,500 --> 01:10:46,400
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1092
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:49,800
Compton's, episode on the camps,
listen to it.
1093
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:53,100
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1094
01:10:53,100 --> 01:10:55,900
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1095
01:10:58,300 --> 01:11:01,100
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1096
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:04,700
Hey, 3 weeks, man.
I'm out of it.
1097
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:32,500
YouTube, he has updated his
YouTube and this year, he is
1098
01:11:32,500 --> 01:11:35,000
going to be during the summer
out at the Grand and Village
1099
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:38,100
Farmers Market out in Roanoke.
I know he always has a good time
1100
01:11:38,100 --> 01:11:41,000
out.
There, we thank you for
1101
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:43,000
listening.
Hopefully, we'll be back in just
1102
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:46,700
a couple weeks.
Not as long Breakers this time
1103
01:11:47,100 --> 01:11:50,100
the prime as always, let's go.
Thank you.