Bye Week Recharge

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Welcome back to the boundary
Corner podcast, along with my

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partner Brian Segal.
I'm Curtis Wilson and we're back

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Brian on a Wednesday night.
Here we are back on a Wednesday

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Curtis.
Get some Gatorade, a little bit

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of food in him.
Feel a little more up to speed

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tonight.
We're getting there.

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I'm alive.
I'm not dead.

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Not dead.
It's 24 hours.

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I mean, it was, it was A brutal
day yesterday.

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But obviously, we push through
it.

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I push through it.
Obviously, you push through it.

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Brian last night, talk about
that in just a second, but

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before we get everything rolling
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And Brian, before we get into a
lot of the stuff tonight, we're

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going to look at the Miami
recap.

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We're going to do a little fun,
what if game after the break.

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But we're going to roll it off
tonight.

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You The opportunity, it was
streamed live last night.

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And for those who missed it,
we're going to show it again

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right here.
Brian sat down with kokis

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defensive tackle, Josh, fuga and
it a little one-on-one

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interview.
So here, is that interview guys

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out there lister's we got a big
night tonight.

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We've got the one and only Josh
fuga coming on with us tonight.

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The 6230 to pound defensive
tackle wearing the number 6 and

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hailing from Freedom, High
School, in Woodbridge Virginia.

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And I'm going to go ahead and
bring him on right now.

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Josh, how you doing tonight
doing good, I'm doing real good

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doing real good.
We really appreciate you having

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coming on tonight with us and
and speaking to the listeners we

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got some guys listing live here.
So but we're going to have a few

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questions for you and again,
appreciate you jumping on

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tonight, of course, I appreciate
HIV.

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So I just wanted to start off
with this.

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You've had some kind of great
games your career already at

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Virginia Tech so far, but you
seem to Don't be hitting your

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stride this year.
Especially three great

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performances from you in a row.
The last three weeks.

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Do you feel like, everything the
coaches are asking of you at

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your position, is started to
click for you?

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Or is there something else
contributing to that success?

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All I believe is, is more me
buying in and embracing my role

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as a player on the team, knowing
my strengths and my weaknesses.

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So I think me actually honing in
on my skill sets and actually

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believe them.
Like okay, this is what I'm good

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at.
So I'm going to go ahead and put

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down display for everybody.
Awesome, awesome.

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I love to hear that and I know I
think you had talked about

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earlier in one other spot.
I saw, were you talking about

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buying in and just the
difference that kind of the

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culture that has been changed,
you know, kind of since you've

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been there.
So let's talk about that a

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little bit.
How did you approach?

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That regime change that happened
at the end of last season and

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has there been a part of that
change that has had an impact on

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your preparation or your On the
field.

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The most I really embrace the
change by.

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I knew how to change.
What's going to be the severity

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of the change.
But what I did is like I knew I

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wasn't going to leave or not
like that.

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I had no intentions of leaving
first and foremost.

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So I knew that if I want to
become who I am right now, I got

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to work harder, so there's more
weight room or more film study

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all that.
And the change that actually

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happened this year.
I think he's actually pretty

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good because one thing that this
coaching staff bought into their

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mindset was mainly competing and
everything we do on and off the

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field.
And I believe that what that

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change in that mindset that they
instilled in US was pretty

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pretty good.
We really needed that as a team,

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it may not be showing it right
now but we are really competed

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on and off the field because
what we do off the field

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correlation Do on the fields.
Yeah it sounds like you.

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As soon as you saw that coming
you kind of double down on your

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approach and I do your
preparation and stuff like that.

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Yes, sir.
Awesome awesome.

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And, you know, speaking of that
you kind of you've been a

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rotational or starting player
for the Hokies for three years.

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Now, what's been the biggest
difference for you?

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From a schematic perspective?
In coach Brian?

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Coach Marv system compared to
your first two seasons in Justin

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Hamilton's defense.
I think the schematically

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fogging is allowing allowing
the, the front for didn't

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actually eat more like they're
good.

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They're going to put us in
position to make plays, okay?

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So I say they're going to do
their best to make sure that

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we're doing that.
We are here to for this specific

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play and it's up to us to
actually execute that play and

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make the plays when it comes to
us you know.

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You got to stay in the framework
and not do too much and I

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believe that we're doing that
and I believe that's the whole

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the change of everything from
the other staff to this stuff.

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Okay.
So a little bit more Controlled

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Chaos.
Yeah.

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Okay.
Okay.

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I like that.
I like that.

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And kind of speaking of that I
know we talked a little bit off

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are before you jumped on here.
I know we're still early in the

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bye week but what has been the
emphasis from coach Pride this

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week so far as it.
Been more NC State prep type

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stuff.
Since you've got the Thursday

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night or early coming next week,
or is it been more about the

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scheme in the technique and
trying to polish some things

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from the first half of the
season?

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I believe like his message, from
what I've what I've gotten is

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what can you do individually?
To better this team as an old,

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like I said, in other interviews
is that even though what we're

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going through, may not be all
rainbows and sunshine this week,

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could have been a better time
for us to have a Bible.

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Gives us opportunity to really
reflect on what's going on as a

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team as a program and also as
individually as a player.

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So I think it's a perfect time
for about So we can really

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actually take strives and for
the next half of the season.

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Yeah.
It's it does seem like it's

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coming at a good time.
I think, you know, you guys have

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seen had some good games, had
some areas where you feel like

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you could, you know, have
improved trying to put the whole

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picture together.
I know price talked a lot about

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complementary football, kind of
everybody.

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Rowing in the same direction at
the same time, right?

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And I, you know, as you said I
think it's a good time for a bye

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week.
You can start maybe putting some

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of those pieces together, for
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Yeah, let me ask this.
So you came in Virginia Tech

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already kind of One level size
at 61 300.

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What?
Components of the strength and

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conditioning program have helped
the most in your progression on

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the field since you've been in
Blacksburg I'll say the the

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conditioner.
Yeah so when I first came here

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2019 I'll never forget I
graduated high school, June 9th

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of that year and then June 10
was already like Like my report

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day?
No, I actually graduated June,

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June 1st and my report day was
June 10 so quick turn around.

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Turn around, well, coming in.
I remember five o'clock in the

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morning, we had to put our
cleats on and get on the

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Baseline that we had to run.
This thing called 300-yard,

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Shadows, that steady back, 50
back and 50 back for the whole

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week straight.
I didn't make not one of my

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times so I'm almost who it is.
Then after, you know, gassed

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out.
It's hard to make my times and

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it's embarrassing.
Like to be honest embarrassing

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like you got the class that came
in with you like looking at you

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like you're like he's not ready
and I kid you not after that.

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Very first week God did the
whole shuttles till that point I

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never miss a time I'm either one
of the top guys finishing and

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all that.
So it's really me embracing

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that.
Okay, this is what it is to take

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to play at this level.
I got that be able to Be playing

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50 plays or whatever it is.
I got to be strong.

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So it's just me buying in and
the conditioning and all the

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strength that that, that, that
they implemented.

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Yeah, now I can definitely
commiserate with that a little

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bit.
I played III back in the day and

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I remember getting there.
And, you know, the first thing

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they're doing is the
conditioning test.

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And I was like, oh, okay, this
is this different level of

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conditioning, than what we were
doing, you know, back in high

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school and the first, first week
was rough.

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I definitely missed about two or
three the times that first week.

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You know what?
You got to get your feet under

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your little bit.
You're like, alright Ike, if you

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push through a little More you
start just getting under the

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time and then you can start
building off that for sure.

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Yeah, yeah.
All right, so let me ask this

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because little bit back on the
on the strength and conditioning

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stuff.
Since you've been in Blacksburg

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anytime we see those offseason
workout videos.

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I tell my buddy Curtis does the
show with me?

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And I've said it on here before
you've got the best Squad face

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on the team by far.
It's not even close man.

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But let me ask the question from
this perspective does make him

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Squat Friday, almost like these
big weekly event helped the team

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push through leg day each week
because I know that's always

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like the the toughest day to get
through.

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Yeah, that doesn't know about it
is its opposite day to get

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through.
But I think actually actually

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benefits us because we're all
were all there once a week and

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we're all there, watch it, one
guy at a time so push the weight

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push his Max.
And that just that bills that

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Team chemistry that team
camaraderie that look I got your

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back.
If you do this for one time, you

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know.
And and it gives that person

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that confidence whoever's under
that squat bar below.

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Okay, everybody watching me.
I'm not gonna miss low but I

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know that they got me and I'm
gonna do my best to get this one

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rep.
So if it helps build that team,

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camaraderie in that team
chemistry for real, I will throw

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this on here boy, Vic, Virginia,
Tech Les.

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He said, tell my guy figure,
he's got got a fan and Dwight

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Vic, and freedom is serious this
year.

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Just a, yes, sir, I know y'all.
So, let's ask this, you've been

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playing under JC price.
Now, for two seasons, we're

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seeing his impact a lot more on
the line this year.

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Not just from, you know, the
director of the wreck stuff with

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the coaching, but a lot of the
culture type stuff.

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Lunch pail has bagged all
collar.

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What does it mean to you to play
for a coach to kind of help

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build the foundation and the
culture?

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The program that you're now part
of the coast pies and he's a God

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that embodies our what Virginia
Tech is.

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So this is actually like his
first time like took the two

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years he been here.
Is his first time actually

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gained control of them.
All four guys, man, this is so

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like last year we had built a
link, so we would all be under

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him and then close power coach,
the ends.

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But this is his first time I
actually get in the hole.

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Whole deal on as a whole.
And I'm telling you, like, he

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what he teaches at how he
coaches, it's a different style

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of coaching I've ever seen.
He's actually passionate, he's

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very passionate.
What he does the dog mentality

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dead, the front for got to have
every game, no matter what it

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is, like, you gonna, you gotta
play like this in order to be

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successful, and he does a very
great job, trying to instill

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that that mindset.
That Now, we got to have every

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game and everything that we do
in life just outside of football

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and I'm sorry plan to close
price is actually a blessing for

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me.
That's also and we saw it.

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I mean, anytime he's in front of
the camera.

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Anytime he's on the bike.
I mean, you can't, you feel it?

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And we saw when we, I mean me
and Curtis are fans from way,

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back in the in the mid-90s when
Coach Price was still was still

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a Virginia Tech as a player.
So we kind of go back that far

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and we cut remember that
mentality that he had as a

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player and it's awesome to hear
that he's bringing that to

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y'all's meeting room deals
position Roop and you know

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seeing every time he gets in
front of the mic especially you

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know, after UVA last year.
That was an emotional moment for

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him, man.
So it's awesome that he brings

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that same energy to practice to
meetings and stuff like that.

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Yeah, every day every day.
Awesome.

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Well, you know, we know, Great
of an environment Lane stadium,

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is to experience a college
football game.

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And but I'm curious from your
perspective, what are some other

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stadiums that you played at
during your time with the Hokies

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that have also kind of stood out
for you as having that type of

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electric atmosphere?
I'll say for me personally, was

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West Virginia last year.
It was electrifying, you really

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couldn't hear nothing, as soon
as you got out.

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It was a pretty cool
environment.

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Moment.
But I will say Lane, stadium is

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top, top notch, no, nothing
being Stadium, wasn't filled.

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So, but for me personally, I'll
say West Virginia.

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Last year was pretty all
rocking.

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Was it kind of the combination
of the the Rivalry, the the fans

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just kind of little bit of
everything that was contributing

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to that.
Oh yeah, I say likes to pull it

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pulling up.
Shut up to the stadium and sell

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like, you can see like you feel
that the whyville And everything

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that this game that game meant
like we're not just trying to

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win the game like we're trying
to compete for trophies and

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trophy game.
Yeah, like as soon as you get to

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the stadium, you'll feel that
atmosphere That's awesome.

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Yeah that that's one of the
stadiums that I would like to

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check out.
I've not been there.

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You know when when I was coming
to games early earlier in my

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life, when I was a college
student that was when West

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Virginia was known for some of
that dirty stuff that people

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were talking about.
Like, oh yeah, throw in

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batteries and you know, all that
stuff at game.

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So you know some people tried to
as far as visiting fans, tried

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to stay away from that
atmosphere but you know I've

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heard.
Late, it's a lot more more tame,

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but still still pretty raucous.
In terms of the noise, they make

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in the passion that they bring
to the stadium.

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So, let's ask this, this little
more fun question for you in the

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deal.
I room.

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You got a lot of different
personalities, a lot of back

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different backgrounds.
What's the big kind of off the

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clock, like competition or thing
that you guys do, kind of as a

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group as a video games, is it
pick up Hoops?

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You know, what kind of things
do?

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Y'all do off the clock?
Off the clock, I will, I would

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say that it is mainly
basketball, I pick up so like

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coach prize will have, was
sometime come to his house, but

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just grub and just fellowship
and I say, he has a basketball

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hoop and I'll tell you as soon
as you get there, somebody got a

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basketball.
And where are you trying to play

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21 or King of the course?
Something?

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Like weird.
It doesn't matter because

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possibly like, there's no
Duncan.

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But, you know, some guys will
try to dunk here.

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How about we try to compete
regardless?

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So I say like basketball,
something like that.

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Okay, he's right.
He's trying to protect his hoop,

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right?
You don't want job, bringing the

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hotel right now.
You're not.

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He doesn't get that.
He stays out the way where

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everybody else is out there
playing playing with the

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basketball, or some guys will be
playing pool or something like

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that.
Oh nice.

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Okay, okay, good stuff.
Man, I figured is Hoops.

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Usually everybody that comes in
here, it's always Hoops for so,

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you know, 21 was are Game back
in the day.

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So, I'm glad that that's
carrying it through for some of

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the d-line group.
Now, to, all right?

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So last question before I let
you go tonight.

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Yeah, we always ask this when we
have players on former players?

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What's the go to Food Spot for
you?

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In Blacksburg?
Go to and I don't have anything.

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I would say, I'll say Jose.
Okay, who's the breakfast diner?

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Yeah, yeah.
That that little that little

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spot you know, the little coffee
shop I like to refer to as but

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that and got some good food over
there.

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Yeah they do have some good
food.

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You're the first person I think
that said Jose in a while so I

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think it's underrated to to a
point.

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But I mean anybody anybody
that's been there especially

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certain times a day They know
what's up?

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No doubt.
Well I appreciate you jumping on

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with me tonight.
Sorry you didn't get to meet my

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partner in crime there.
Curtis feeling under the weather

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but we appreciate the time and
if there's anything you want to

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plug real quick, go ahead.
Appreciate everybody tuning in

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and be ready for us next week.
Thursday ESPN Prime sign against

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NC State.
Go Hoagies.

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There we go.
And that's Josh fuga.

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Appreciate your time.
You have a good night.

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Appreciate you, too.
We are now back and it

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automatically, after that
interview it makes me want to we

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have to invite you as fuga back
next season for interview with

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some point time since I didn't
get a chance to miss him and

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then discuss, how many the
question?

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Now the question that we had
them on once with Joe's Diner is

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not only okay what's his go to
but how many because obviously

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you know Joe's Diner, huge
breakfast all that good stuff

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like would it be like you know
You know, three small, Joe's

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three.
Big Joe's mean how much is job

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with?
What's the go to order?

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Let's go to water and how much
it's like the new Taco Bell.

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It's 28 dollar challenge 2828,
Taco Bell and we were like, oh

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my God, you're inside, you're
going for a family of four, what

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are you doing?
What are you doing?

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But anyway, it was great.
That he came on last night.

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We run also view to get a chance
to interview him.

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I'm surprised you didn't get
more technical about what would

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be happening if you were God?
He was d-tackle, haha, maybe

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next time, but maybe next time,
maybe they're also having Josh

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own Josh.
Again we appreciate you coming

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on last night if you're
listening tonight.

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All right.
Well let's flip it, Brian.

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Let's get into this Miami recap
and you know, Hokies fall 2014

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and I'm going to start right off
with the offense because

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probably after playing their
best game of the year against

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Pitt, excluding really much.
Each the laughs has of the

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fourth quarter.
It was literally the worst game

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we've seen from this offense for
3/4 now.

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I mean, the first three
quarters.

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I mean, I'm not even gonna take
the first series that with the

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big run by Malachi to open it in
the big pass by Daquan that he

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fumbled and games territory.
But before the fourth quarter

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after that fumble, they crossed
the Midfield one time and I

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didn't get to see.
I didn't see any of the game

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except the condensed version,
which I watched three times.

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Condensed versions are great,
but they are what they are, but

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I'm following them, my phone at
baseball.

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The second half, I listen to
Bill, and Michael on the radio,

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it's awesome to hear them.
Just to say that whether it's a

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losing effort or not.
But Brian, you did get to see

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the games.
Let's talk about the play calls

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and what's going on there was it
play calls or even bad

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situation?
What was the, what was the

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issue?
It kind of felt like, you know,

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we had the big miscue in the
first drive after a couple pump,

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promising plays.
As you know, we saw a couple new

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things out the gate, you know,
we had an outside Zone on that

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run by Malachi, you know, then
we got Daquan involved early in

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the game and then you have the
fumble and then it felt like,

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very, very vanilla, very
reserved, in terms, of trying to

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attack them outside on the
perimeter, which is where we've

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had a lot of success with the
running game, and also kind of

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through the air with intermedia
game.

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We burn them with two plays like
that and then we really don't

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kind of go back to that for a
long time and when we do you

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know it's telegraphed.
It's stuff that we kind of we're

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showing what's coming.
So you know what we got to do is

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get more frequent counters, and
wrinkles off of those

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bread-and-butter plays.
So we can keep the defense

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guessing a little bit more
because it seemed like they were

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key in a lot on those quick
screens to the tight end.

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They were key in a lot on those
hours things.

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Like that and they were able to
kind of get us kind of stymied a

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little bit before we go to get
upfield and get our shoulders

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square and kind of get that
forward momentum in the in the

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offense.
And that's just going to be one

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of those things where you got to
bake be quicker and adjusting in

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the game, kind of mid-flow.
When you see, okay, well, you

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know, we did, we didn't do this
well.

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So you get a little trigger shot
with that and then all of a

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sudden, your bread and butter is
not working and you don't adjust

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From that and try to find
something else.

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That's going to get you back
into that Rhythm because we

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really didn't find an offensive
Rhythm until the fourth quarter.

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Well how does it know offensive
play called or do that though?

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Because you have that first
where you run to Great plays and

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unfortunately a fumble happens
and then you get gunshot and you

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get triggered for an offensive
coordinator.

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Like you can't live like that
because you can't live at the

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bread butter doesn't work.
And obviously those first two

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plays with something different
and getting a young player

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involved early.
So the game plan, Lan was there

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but it was just like completely
pulled back.

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Like hold the horses.
Whoa, we can't keep making

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mistakes like this, what is it?
Offensive play caller.

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Have to do to get away from that
and just say, no, clearly these

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two plays worked in.
We if not for a fumble, we would

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have been on the plus 35 and
they were already on their heels

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to plays into the game.
So I'll throw a caveat out

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there.
You know, it's a delicate

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balance right now because, you
know we've talked about it this

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team in.
Terms of overall Talent overall

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depth is not good enough to make
a lot of mistakes.

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And then still win a game.
So now you've got a mistake

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early on but then you let that
mistake feed over into other

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things even though you know
you're playing more

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conservative.
But you're playing on those not

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to not to lose the game now and
we can't pray like that.

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Can't play like that.
We've got to, we've got to find

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the line between making sure we
don't make those dumb mistakes,

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whether it's penalties, whether
it's Turnovers, but not getting

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so gunshot that we're not
anything.

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All right, well maybe it's what
the head man said and I know you

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listened to it a little later
after the game and you felt like

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it was both sides, but printer,
I called out how we're running.

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Personnel after me seeing it.
And after what the offense did

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to me, it felt like, he was
going right after the offense,

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may be calling out, Tyler
bowling a little bit, maybe not.

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But basically talking about we
cannot be vanilla as a team.

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So the first thing you said, not
have another.

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You can't even though team,
you're not that good enough, but

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we must play the right players.
The most interesting one I heard

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was right near the end of that
snippet and he talked about, we

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need the best players on the
field at all times.

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Even if that includes having two
running backs on the field at

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the same time, when you hear
that and I know, as we get over

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the defense, we can see what you
think he meant by on that side

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of the ball because he did leave
it open-ended where you could

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say, either side of the ball.
But when you hear that and think

449
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,700
offensive ly would have
potentially if you think we see

450
00:26:22,700 --> 00:26:26,300
NC State in going forward.
Yeah.

451
00:26:26,300 --> 00:26:28,700
I mean I think It's, you know,
it's a lot of things and he

452
00:26:28,700 --> 00:26:33,600
mentioned, he mentioned the
running back specifically, and

453
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,200
when I'm thinking of the running
backs, I'm thinking of that

454
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:43,200
third down call where you had
Holston out in the flat and it's

455
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:47,600
a, it's a laser, it's still a
catchable, ball hosting.

456
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,900
Can't handle it.
If you have, you know, one of

457
00:26:50,908 --> 00:26:53,700
your other two running backs out
there, you got Malachi Thomas

458
00:26:53,700 --> 00:26:56,800
out there.
You got Keshawn King out.

459
00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,600
Is that ball handled?
Does do you get a catch and run

460
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:04,100
for another you know, 10 or 12
yards there to put you in

461
00:27:04,100 --> 00:27:07,700
scoring range right there.
Versus have a pun on the next

462
00:27:07,700 --> 00:27:12,100
play, maybe.
And, you know, I think we're a

463
00:27:12,100 --> 00:27:14,200
little too deep or we're still
filling this out.

464
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:18,000
I know, Malachi Thomas has just
been back for two games at this

465
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:22,700
point, but I think we kind of
know what we have with the

466
00:27:22,700 --> 00:27:26,200
strength of Holston is and is
not at this point.

467
00:27:26,900 --> 00:27:30,300
And unless he's staying in there
to block.

468
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,700
It's probably not a good play
for him.

469
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,600
I mean, just just being honest,
it's probably not a good play

470
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,600
for him.
All right.

471
00:27:42,900 --> 00:27:44,800
What about the?
I think you just you got into

472
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,300
about why?
It shouldn't be vanilla and I

473
00:27:46,308 --> 00:27:49,000
think you've got to find the
right balance, but I think who

474
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,600
we are as a team.
There's not much bread and

475
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,500
butter you have none.
You have to be unique.

476
00:27:55,500 --> 00:27:58,500
You have to take shots.
Yeah, we gotta get creative for

477
00:27:58,500 --> 00:28:00,000
sure.
We got to get creative with with

478
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,700
how we're getting the guys with
football.

479
00:28:02,300 --> 00:28:04,400
You want to have bread, buddy?
You want to have those plays?

480
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:09,400
You can lean on when things get
a little tight, but at the same

481
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,200
time you've got to be able to
throw wrinkles because if the

482
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,600
other teams playing tight and
their key in on what you're

483
00:28:14,608 --> 00:28:19,000
doing you got to throw them
something different and can't

484
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,100
just hope that they're going to
make a mistake and not.

485
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:25,000
Were they need to be every time.
It's almost like if you can take

486
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,500
away the vanilla look
potentially doing some unique

487
00:28:28,500 --> 00:28:31,200
things will open up the things
we've done.

488
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,800
Well maybe not exponentially
like think that certain run

489
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,700
plays, it haven't went for seven
to carry that's going for two

490
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,900
but if you open it up just a
little maybe it goes 45 because

491
00:28:41,900 --> 00:28:45,100
until you've got them thinking
versus them read reacting.

492
00:28:45,300 --> 00:28:49,600
Yeah, let me give an example.
So you know, we've run that

493
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,000
quick screen to the tight end a
lot.

494
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:57,300
Got ya, a lot of times we run it
out of regular trips, it's going

495
00:28:57,300 --> 00:29:02,600
to Gallo from the wing.
We saw a bunch trips Bunch with

496
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:08,500
with Daquan in there where
Lofton and Gallo widen out and

497
00:29:08,500 --> 00:29:11,700
get the blocks.
And that one had a lot of.

498
00:29:11,700 --> 00:29:15,000
That was the one that got the
the first down, in the fourth

499
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,500
quarter.
We're Daquan called it got about

500
00:29:17,500 --> 00:29:20,000
eight and then fought for the
last two to get the first down.

501
00:29:21,900 --> 00:29:24,300
Those little wrinkles like that
little adjustments.

502
00:29:24,300 --> 00:29:26,200
It doesn't have to be anything
major.

503
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:30,000
You can still essentially call
the same game, but just give it

504
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:34,200
a different look.
So they can't key pre-snap on

505
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:39,700
what you're trying to do.
All right, well let's flip and

506
00:29:39,700 --> 00:29:43,900
let's talk about the next it I
think disappointed everybody

507
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,400
especially after we looked
versus pit and that's the

508
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,900
offensive line Play.
I Think Clearly the worst

509
00:29:50,900 --> 00:29:54,800
overall game for this units.
In Saudi you they allowed seven

510
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,100
sacks.
And I know that's a good.

511
00:29:56,100 --> 00:29:59,800
Miami front.
The Run game was probably about

512
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,800
a yard per carry less than what
we wanted to be Braun.

513
00:30:02,900 --> 00:30:07,400
We were 2.6 of carry, you said,
if we were at 34 like 110 yards,

514
00:30:08,100 --> 00:30:11,700
Probably had a better chance at
one yard more.

515
00:30:12,500 --> 00:30:14,900
That's roughly where we are at
30 carry.

516
00:30:14,900 --> 00:30:19,400
So you obviously got in the film
room and did some breakdowns of

517
00:30:19,408 --> 00:30:21,400
me.
What were the issues there?

518
00:30:23,100 --> 00:30:25,900
It was definitely the worst.
The overall game for that

519
00:30:25,900 --> 00:30:32,100
offensive line since probably
ODU just you know the pass game

520
00:30:32,100 --> 00:30:36,800
kind of was what it was.
The communication was off, it

521
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:41,900
seemed There wasn't, they did a
lot with delay blitzes, that

522
00:30:41,900 --> 00:30:45,300
really threw off the, the
communication, and kind of the

523
00:30:45,300 --> 00:30:48,200
switching that the offensive
line needs to do to kind of keep

524
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,800
that Shore.
And you couple that with the Run

525
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,200
game, where we weren't getting a
ton of movement between the

526
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,600
tackles especially we had to
generate a lot of, are you merge

527
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,300
with our quarterback this week
probably a little bit more than

528
00:31:01,300 --> 00:31:04,600
I think we're comfortable with
weeks week for sure.

529
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,600
I like Wells, running more.
Um, I think that that's a

530
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:14,800
positive in terms of generating,
some additional offense but you

531
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,900
don't want to get in a situation
where you're having to have your

532
00:31:17,900 --> 00:31:20,300
quarterback be the leading
rusher for your team.

533
00:31:20,300 --> 00:31:24,200
We've seen that song and dance
before, we don't want to get

534
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,500
back to that.
Now we definitely don't want to

535
00:31:26,508 --> 00:31:29,400
get back to that.
So if you have a one-game here

536
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,600
there where your quarterback
breaks a couple long ones and

537
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,700
he's the leading rusher for one
game.

538
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,500
Fine.
You don't want him to go

539
00:31:36,500 --> 00:31:39,600
week-to-week being And you know,
getting all about the same

540
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,600
number of carriers as your lead
back for you know, handful more

541
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:49,000
yards, that's not what you want.
So the offensive line definitely

542
00:31:49,100 --> 00:31:54,000
needs to figure some things out
whether that is switching around

543
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,100
Personnel.
It looked like, you know, we

544
00:31:57,100 --> 00:32:00,300
started the game a lot with a
lot of Jesse Hanson, we kind of

545
00:32:00,300 --> 00:32:03,000
closed it with a little bit
more, Braylon more there at the

546
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,000
end.
You know, you'd like to see and

547
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,400
hopefully, at some point we get
to A situation where we're

548
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,600
comfortable getting Xavier
chaplain on the field.

549
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:17,300
A lot more and Parker Clements
maybe off the field a lot more.

550
00:32:20,300 --> 00:32:22,500
That I think that would, that
would help at least we'd know we

551
00:32:22,500 --> 00:32:23,900
have.
And we can get some Reps for a

552
00:32:23,900 --> 00:32:26,700
guy that we know is going to
have to play a pretty big role

553
00:32:26,700 --> 00:32:29,400
for us come next season.
Absolutely, huge role.

554
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,100
And you mentioned Grant, Wells
legs.

555
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,800
I mean, let's talk about what we
saw Saturday on that.

556
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:38,000
I mean, he proved he's not a
statute now, is he tie rod or

557
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,700
any of those guys know?
But by proven that you hear

558
00:32:41,700 --> 00:32:44,500
Pride talking post game, it can
be expanded.

559
00:32:44,500 --> 00:32:47,500
And what I hear that expanded
knowing this offense, know what

560
00:32:47,500 --> 00:32:52,200
you explain to me.
Or read option elements more RPO

561
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,400
elements.
And and then it kind of goes

562
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:55,900
back to what we talked about,
right?

563
00:32:55,900 --> 00:32:59,900
Personnel saying if you're using
a little bit of the RPO, your

564
00:32:59,900 --> 00:33:02,000
lose a little bit of the read
option, along with his just

565
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,800
scrambling ability, it's going
to change defensive looks it's

566
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,500
going to probably make things
easier for the line and it's

567
00:33:08,500 --> 00:33:10,300
going to make some passes easier
for him.

568
00:33:11,500 --> 00:33:13,900
Yeah.
I mean we've been running some

569
00:33:13,900 --> 00:33:16,200
of the read option at this
point.

570
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,700
We've been running some of the
RPO at this point.

571
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:24,200
It hasn't been as heavy
emphasis, as I thought it was

572
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:28,400
going to be before the season,
but I think some of that is a

573
00:33:28,408 --> 00:33:32,600
lot of the other base stuff
isn't as developed and as ready

574
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,900
as they wanted to be.
So they're not throwing as many

575
00:33:34,900 --> 00:33:37,700
of these wrinkles out there, but
I think we've gotten to a point.

576
00:33:37,700 --> 00:33:41,800
Now, where we're getting stymie
to a point where we got to try

577
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,900
something different something.
In something that's already kind

578
00:33:44,900 --> 00:33:48,100
of in the Playbook that we can
just kind of integrate a little

579
00:33:48,100 --> 00:33:50,600
bit deeper in the game plan.
Week to week.

580
00:33:52,700 --> 00:33:55,900
And I think that's where the RPO
in war zone comes into play.

581
00:33:56,700 --> 00:34:03,400
We saw a couple quarterback.
We saw a counter called me.

582
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:08,199
Yeah, we saw we've seen the
drawers all year on Long plays

583
00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:11,900
which a couple times Saturday
actually made up significant

584
00:34:11,900 --> 00:34:17,100
yardage and that's fine.
And I mean he still isn't

585
00:34:17,100 --> 00:34:19,300
running at a point like even
Saturday.

586
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:25,900
I mean he ran 16 times Which is
clearly the highest number that

587
00:34:25,900 --> 00:34:30,400
he's ran all season and like you
said, I don't want him to have

588
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,699
to do that all the time.
I would like him to be, in the

589
00:34:33,699 --> 00:34:37,400
8, to 10 range, just more
effective with the with those

590
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:42,100
design runs or would you lose
your coming off of reads or the

591
00:34:42,100 --> 00:34:44,000
RPO?
I mean we can go back and look

592
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,199
at the tape and kind of decide
how many were designs, how many

593
00:34:47,199 --> 00:34:50,199
were him just scrambling?
Because if you're saying in this

594
00:34:50,199 --> 00:34:53,800
safety wrench 16 times, but if
eight were designs at Scrambles

595
00:34:54,300 --> 00:34:57,600
then then we're probably okay.
I think what you're saying is

596
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,600
designed room, you don't want to
see them.

597
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,500
Specifically saying this is his
play verse.

598
00:35:02,500 --> 00:35:05,800
Yeah I don't want to say 12 plus
times a game, we're running our

599
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,600
quarterback in the design
fashion.

600
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,800
But if you're saying it's 10
designs and then you've got in

601
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,900
his head, you hit 12 because of
this concept.

602
00:35:14,900 --> 00:35:17,400
These are you know, we're
running double vertibird post.

603
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:21,000
We're running people off.
If there is a lane, don't try to

604
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,800
get you.
The third re you probably Have 5

605
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:28,200
to 10 yards of space where you
do have enough legs to get us

606
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,700
positive yardage versus taking a
sack.

607
00:35:30,900 --> 00:35:35,600
Yeah I mean I'd like to see
maybe four or five where you

608
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:40,900
know it's it's Grant all the way
he's not reading he it's not our

609
00:35:40,900 --> 00:35:44,100
po.
It's not Zone it's just grants

610
00:35:44,100 --> 00:35:49,400
running the ball display and I
like to see another probably 5

611
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,400
to 6 where he has the option to
run.

612
00:35:55,100 --> 00:35:58,800
And maybe even a few more than
the, but I wouldn't go much

613
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,900
heavier than that right now.
But there's but there's things

614
00:36:02,900 --> 00:36:06,300
that we can do kind of off of
that, that will get take a

615
00:36:06,308 --> 00:36:09,200
little more pressure off of him.
And I'm hoping that we can do

616
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:10,900
some more creative things that
are running.

617
00:36:10,900 --> 00:36:13,500
A my no Prime Mansion you know
to backfield sets.

618
00:36:14,100 --> 00:36:16,200
You know, you got a guy like
King that we can split a guy

619
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,600
like chance black that you can
split out.

620
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,800
Have you managed of it?
Yeah, take advantage of it.

621
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,000
Create some mismatches.
Create some different looks for

622
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,000
the defense.
Think about it.

623
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,000
Like, catch them misalign.
I mean, there's so many things

624
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,800
you can do with with those
different Personnel that might

625
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,400
catch the defense off guard
there.

626
00:36:35,700 --> 00:36:38,900
Well, think about an RPO pop
skirt or a pop swing pass.

627
00:36:38,900 --> 00:36:41,500
Where if you've got King and
Malachi in the backfield and

628
00:36:41,500 --> 00:36:45,400
you're reading hard and just let
King run to the flat, Are you

629
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,600
immediately going to be avoiding
somebody like a linebacker or

630
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:52,400
safety if you're doing that?
Absolutely because if they

631
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,600
decide to stay in the boxing
Grant read that you're talking

632
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,600
about going to a flat where now
if the wide outs are upfield and

633
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:04,000
blocking it could be a lot of
yards and what does that do the

634
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,400
next time you immediately see
the linebacker change their

635
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,400
Direction, they don't bite in on
the run and then you might have

636
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,100
numbers inside the box but we
could get deeper into that.

637
00:37:13,100 --> 00:37:14,800
And I'm like, yeah.
Yeah.

638
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,000
I'll tell you another thing.
I like to see, we've run a lot

639
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,400
of those quick screens to the
tide in and quick screens to the

640
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:23,000
running back.
When we're in shotgun, I'd like

641
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:28,100
to see maybe something where you
either run a wheel off of that

642
00:37:28,900 --> 00:37:32,400
or you know you're looking
you're showing that and then

643
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:37,200
throwing back, throw that into
the ocean to the opposite side

644
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:38,800
of where you're seeing that most
you right now.

645
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,400
They're jumping that every time
they're jumping it.

646
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:47,100
And we got to start burning them
a little bit when they're taking

647
00:37:47,100 --> 00:37:49,500
those risks and jumping that you
know, something that they've

648
00:37:49,500 --> 00:37:51,100
seen on tape a lot at this
point.

649
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,500
Absolutely.
All right, well I think I'm

650
00:37:53,500 --> 00:37:57,000
gonna hit one more piece here.
I think as we go into next year

651
00:37:57,700 --> 00:38:00,700
talking about we've talked a lot
about Thomas and we talked to

652
00:38:00,700 --> 00:38:02,400
right?
And we saw Lofton, make a hell

653
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,300
of a catch on Saturday in
Braylon more getting one more

654
00:38:05,300 --> 00:38:07,300
play time.
I think the young players on the

655
00:38:07,300 --> 00:38:11,300
offense you've got a foundation,
they're not all right.

656
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,600
Young, they're going to be here,
at least two to three more

657
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:18,900
seasons, roughly mom.
And with guys like Caleb Smith,

658
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,000
even Wells coming back next
year.

659
00:38:21,700 --> 00:38:26,000
If they find the Parker Clements
of 2021 and bring him back,

660
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,300
significantly, help, I'm still
trying to figure out what's

661
00:38:30,300 --> 00:38:33,100
happened to him and I think I
have a feeling in the offseason.

662
00:38:33,100 --> 00:38:35,900
You're going to be pulling up
2021 tape and 2022 tape of him

663
00:38:35,900 --> 00:38:36,900
and be like, what's the
difference?

664
00:38:36,900 --> 00:38:40,400
But how does it make you feel
foundationally for the next

665
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:41,800
couple Seasons?
No.

666
00:38:41,900 --> 00:38:45,200
Knowing the guys who were
showing out the most right now,

667
00:38:45,700 --> 00:38:47,300
are some of the youngest in that
room.

668
00:38:48,900 --> 00:38:51,400
Yeah, a lot of the young players
on offense of definitely stepped

669
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,500
up, you know, we talked about
right, and Thomas in particular,

670
00:38:55,500 --> 00:38:58,800
still really early into their
careers, you know, Loft and I

671
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,500
know he had the big drop, but,
you know, I think he's coming

672
00:39:02,500 --> 00:39:05,200
along.
Hopefully, we can, we can get

673
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,600
some, some more consistency with
his hands.

674
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,200
He met, he catches the hard
ones, man.

675
00:39:12,900 --> 00:39:15,400
He does.
The degree of difficulty, is up.

676
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:20,900
He bring those in, he made that
Catch this past week against

677
00:39:20,900 --> 00:39:23,500
Miami.
He made that big where he

678
00:39:23,500 --> 00:39:26,000
climbed the ladder and brought
it down against piss.

679
00:39:26,300 --> 00:39:29,800
So I mean, he makes those high
high degree of difficulty

680
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,300
catches, we just got to get him
to bring in those routine.

681
00:39:33,300 --> 00:39:36,400
Ones with greater routine,
right?

682
00:39:36,700 --> 00:39:40,200
I don't percent then more, I
think just getting more

683
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:44,300
consistent snaps maybe even
getting a start here as the

684
00:39:44,300 --> 00:39:48,200
season goes along, I think would
be good for his maturity.

685
00:39:48,300 --> 00:39:50,600
Me and coming along in the
offense.

686
00:39:51,700 --> 00:39:53,600
Absolutely.
All right, let's flip over to

687
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,200
the defense side of the ball
now.

688
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,400
Brian.
Let's first of all, we welcome

689
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:01,600
back to players to on Garbutt
who had missed the pit game, who

690
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,600
had a really big day with a sack
and a half three.

691
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:08,400
Tackles for loss five.
Total tackles also Allen Tisdale

692
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,600
back Allen, Tisdale with nine
tackles second, Auntie mahina,

693
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:16,500
Jalen strowman.
And I think we really saw it

694
00:40:16,500 --> 00:40:21,600
Shore up the defense and again,
address even more that That this

695
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,200
is a good defense.
Is it great note but it is a

696
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:28,400
good defense that you know.
Brian if I told you, you know,

697
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,400
eight days ago on Wednesday,
night on Tuesday night.

698
00:40:31,500 --> 00:40:32,800
Brian.
We're going to leave you.

699
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,300
We're going to hold them to 20.
Are you going to take it?

700
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,600
I take it all day, man.
If you said that we were only

701
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,000
going to allow 20 points in that
game.

702
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,600
I said there's at least a 60%
chance, we win that game.

703
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,400
And if the offense and showed a
little bit more life there in,

704
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,600
probably been about a 60%
chance, we would have won that

705
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:54,500
game so you know, I'm fine with
the output of spec.

706
00:40:54,500 --> 00:40:59,800
I'm really impressed.
With the adjustments that we saw

707
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:05,800
at have time because almost
everything that we did at

708
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:10,200
halftime took away, what they
were doing, well, in the first

709
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:15,200
half.
And I mean, the biggest one was

710
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,500
giving us a whole lot more of
monster d'Alene.

711
00:41:21,700 --> 00:41:25,500
We got a whole lot more of, we
got a got a lot more cam Johnson

712
00:41:25,500 --> 00:41:29,200
to, but we got a whole lot of
the freshmen, cornerbacks got

713
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:33,900
some run in the second half and
they showed out and they showed

714
00:41:33,900 --> 00:41:38,400
out consistently and in
particular delaying went up

715
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:42,600
there and was you know, High
pointing balls, getting it

716
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:46,500
getting some some some
deflections and I mean he was

717
00:41:46,500 --> 00:41:49,000
like the third-year player.
Yeah, look like the third-year

718
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,400
player on Saturday at the of the
condensed and highlight.

719
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:59,200
So I'll say this, he looked
eerily like when we got Kendall

720
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,300
Fuller on the field as a true
freshman.

721
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,100
Okay.
Yeah.

722
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,300
All right.
Now don't get me wrong.

723
00:42:06,300 --> 00:42:11,000
The defense, have some errors in
the first have absolutely but

724
00:42:11,500 --> 00:42:14,900
they if somebody said well it
would have been a blowout.

725
00:42:14,900 --> 00:42:17,100
Should have been a blow out.
My knee took the foot off the

726
00:42:17,100 --> 00:42:19,700
pedal.
No, Miami could not run the

727
00:42:19,700 --> 00:42:22,200
ball.
That's why I could run the whole

728
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:23,900
game.
I mean, dang, they couldn't run.

729
00:42:23,900 --> 00:42:27,200
Yeah, and I mean, you're talking
about think about this, you

730
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:31,300
know, Miami.
They had five runs or more of

731
00:42:31,300 --> 00:42:36,100
nine yards or 72 yards.
Longest one was 15 the rest of

732
00:42:36,100 --> 00:42:43,600
the game they have 35 on like
23, they were lower than us for

733
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:48,000
those 23 and I mean I think
having Tisdale back was big on

734
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,600
that and I think having Corbett
back was big on that.

735
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,200
When you looked at some of the
tapes, how much better will it

736
00:42:53,207 --> 00:42:55,300
run fits?
Especially with garbett and

737
00:42:55,300 --> 00:42:58,800
Tisdale bad?
Definitely more consistent.

738
00:42:58,900 --> 00:43:02,800
There were still a couple that
weren't quite what you want but

739
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,200
we didn't we didn't they didn't
have a running back that could

740
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:09,400
burn us and when they had that
like Pride was talking about a

741
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,700
lot of the guys in the
secondary, we're taking some

742
00:43:11,700 --> 00:43:15,100
better angles at helping clean
that up.

743
00:43:15,100 --> 00:43:17,300
So you didn't see see the big
gains.

744
00:43:17,300 --> 00:43:20,200
And I know we spoke last week
when we talked about Miami, you

745
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,600
know, they get They don't get to
the second level and completely

746
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,000
towards you.
Like pit does pits very much if

747
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,000
you get them.
In the first three or five

748
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,400
yards, they're not going to do
very much.

749
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,700
If you let them get past five
and you have put a body on them,

750
00:43:35,100 --> 00:43:39,100
you're in fucking trouble and
Amy is not that at the running

751
00:43:39,100 --> 00:43:44,200
back position and we saw it and
you know, we were able to keep

752
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:48,600
them in.
Check now pass defensible

753
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:52,000
different story.
I think it's showing every week

754
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,800
how much were missing?
Dorian, strong and him not

755
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,000
coming.
Back this week I'm wondering if

756
00:43:57,500 --> 00:44:02,700
If he's back against NC State
and again, it sort of hurts the

757
00:44:02,700 --> 00:44:05,200
whole rotation, it's one reason
Jalen Stroman had a ton of

758
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,100
tackles, he was playing the free
spot a lot.

759
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,900
And Brianna Marie is probably
the most frustrating players

760
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,400
right now because there are
times where you look at his tape

761
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,300
and it's like he does everything
perfect and it's great.

762
00:44:18,900 --> 00:44:22,200
And then there's some of those
plays like on some of the Miami

763
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:26,100
early drives where it's just
that passing the back of the end

764
00:44:26,100 --> 00:44:28,600
zone.
Maybe he got picked or

765
00:44:28,607 --> 00:44:31,300
something, but it looked like.
He'd almost given up on catching

766
00:44:31,300 --> 00:44:33,100
that whiteout.
Yeah.

767
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:37,400
And maybe he got picked TV
angles.

768
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,000
You got to get all 22s where you
can see on the back half, but it

769
00:44:40,008 --> 00:44:41,700
was like, he almost gave up on
that play.

770
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,900
And if he gives up on that play
it's like maybe that's why we

771
00:44:44,900 --> 00:44:49,300
saw in the second half of
listen, you can't give up on a

772
00:44:49,300 --> 00:44:53,200
plate, weird things happen in
football and I hope that's not

773
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:54,600
the case.
I just hope it was one of those

774
00:44:54,600 --> 00:45:01,900
weird things where he tripped or
stumbled or but, you know, I'll

775
00:45:01,900 --> 00:45:07,000
say this.
So, you know, I appreciate what?

776
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:08,800
What Briana Murray brings to the
table.

777
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:17,700
He's got some decent skills, but
I saw enough In Miami where he

778
00:45:17,700 --> 00:45:19,800
doesn't need to be the first guy
out in.

779
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,800
Okay.
Less unless unless there's two

780
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,600
or three corners out of that
game for injuries, he doesn't

781
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:32,000
need to be the first guy.
And we've talked about it

782
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:36,400
before, we're comfortable with
him as, as a guy were you can

783
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:40,400
throw in for a series here or
series there to give a guy a

784
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:46,300
blow that needs a blow and as
we're seeing having to lean on

785
00:45:46,300 --> 00:45:52,000
him for significant portions of
a game, it's been a struggle.

786
00:45:52,100 --> 00:45:56,300
It's been very up and down and
that's against Miami, that's

787
00:45:56,300 --> 00:46:00,700
being kind.
So, I mean it's different.

788
00:46:00,700 --> 00:46:04,500
It's difficult to watch is it's
hard to say that about a guy.

789
00:46:04,500 --> 00:46:06,200
That's a, you know, a veteran,
that's done.

790
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,500
Some good things for your team
and his time here.

791
00:46:08,500 --> 00:46:13,900
But I'm going with the two
freshmen before I want to see.

792
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:19,100
Breanna Murray on the field
again and write something else

793
00:46:19,100 --> 00:46:21,900
that happened.
Mr. Peeples gets ejected for

794
00:46:21,900 --> 00:46:27,100
targeting and you, I think you
texted me because I was there,

795
00:46:27,100 --> 00:46:29,900
and I saw some type of mine who
was Was it and you're like Missy

796
00:46:29,900 --> 00:46:33,100
I was like I'm man and then you
texted me a little later and

797
00:46:33,100 --> 00:46:36,100
I'll just do the radio and
you're like this isn't hurting

798
00:46:36,100 --> 00:46:37,500
us as much as I thought it
would.

799
00:46:37,500 --> 00:46:40,200
So who you know, I think the
Sears back this week will

800
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,100
clearly be the starter again,
but who took over the strong

801
00:46:43,100 --> 00:46:45,700
safety role.
When that happened, we saw

802
00:46:45,700 --> 00:46:47,700
strowman in there a lot when we
went and nickel.

803
00:46:47,700 --> 00:46:54,000
We saw a lot of DJ Harvey, so
there there wasn't a lot of drop

804
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,400
off because of the the mix of
those two getting in there.

805
00:46:58,900 --> 00:47:01,000
DJ held up.
Well, he made some plays out

806
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:04,400
there and then we saw strowman
that was out there doing a

807
00:47:04,408 --> 00:47:07,500
really good job and obviously
Stroman in particular has played

808
00:47:07,500 --> 00:47:12,200
a lot of snaps in kind of a
secondary role this year and it

809
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,600
on nickel package is so seeing
him getting a more consistent

810
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:21,000
role for all for all three
steps, there was good, he

811
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,400
actually showed up very well.
Yeah, we keep mentioned, a lot

812
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,900
of younger guys, names, more and
more, and more and playing the

813
00:47:26,900 --> 00:47:30,800
best last piece, Brian.
And I know you hate being,

814
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:32,500
right?
But you said it last week, like,

815
00:47:32,500 --> 00:47:35,400
if we keep them at 40%, we have
a chance to win this game.

816
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:41,200
They were 47. 40 percent is
roughly one less plate, one or

817
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,000
two less plays.
If you think Van Dyke Granite

818
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:48,100
late to get the third down, that
kept them the ball, obviously

819
00:47:48,100 --> 00:47:52,000
numerous times during the during
the game.

820
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,200
Where they're The scoring range
they get in scoring range or if

821
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,600
it's a stop, some of those third
and Long's or second and Long's

822
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:02,200
where they make it up and now it
kind of hinges.

823
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:06,300
It's like I know you hate being
right?

824
00:48:06,300 --> 00:48:08,200
But does it frustrate you even
more?

825
00:48:09,100 --> 00:48:11,900
You watch the whole game and I'm
sure after the game, you're down

826
00:48:11,900 --> 00:48:12,700
at the beach.
I'm sure.

827
00:48:12,700 --> 00:48:14,500
You went out to lunch dinner.
Watch some games.

828
00:48:14,500 --> 00:48:17,500
Those did you look at your phone
and see that percentage in like

829
00:48:17,700 --> 00:48:20,100
shit.
Shit.

830
00:48:20,100 --> 00:48:24,800
One play.
Yeah I mean and you know you

831
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:28,700
pointed out the I'd say you like
two or three of the Tyler Van

832
00:48:28,700 --> 00:48:31,500
Dyke runs if you take those away
it's a different game.

833
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,300
Your credit to him for being of
the extend plays and make some

834
00:48:35,300 --> 00:48:39,400
good reads on some of those read
options obviously some some

835
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:43,100
points of those games.
You're crashing hard, you're

836
00:48:43,100 --> 00:48:47,400
trying to make a play, he made a
smart move and pulled it, and

837
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,200
was able to run for a first down
on a couple of those.

838
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:51,900
And that's kind of the
difference in the game.

839
00:48:51,900 --> 00:48:54,700
I think, you know, they were
getting a couple more plays here

840
00:48:54,700 --> 00:48:57,300
there, and we weren't making the
plays that were there,

841
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:01,900
especially on offense sometimes.
So that's just how it goes.

842
00:49:01,900 --> 00:49:05,100
I think this team is still
learning how to to win and how

843
00:49:05,100 --> 00:49:08,600
to make those winning plays in
situations where a play can kind

844
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:12,200
of go either direction.
And we're just Making enough of

845
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,400
them yet.
Absolutely.

846
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:16,600
So, again, we'll close that
chapter.

847
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,600
As we go into the bye week,
Hokies fall.

848
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,500
We got Brian cops.
I feel like wholesome are in the

849
00:49:22,500 --> 00:49:24,200
same position.
We appreciate your loyalty and

850
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,700
dedication, but the young Bulls,
you didn't get more snaps and I

851
00:49:26,707 --> 00:49:28,200
think that's probably what we're
going to see.

852
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,400
And we're seeing the head, coach
mentioning more and more.

853
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:36,200
Let's go into some news and
notes frying, catfish last week.

854
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,000
You ever read a tweet that looks
real?

855
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,400
And it looks like a real Source
Ryan.

856
00:49:41,500 --> 00:49:43,600
Austin was not fired last week
from Auburn.

857
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,400
I don't know how much longer
they're going to keep him though

858
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:50,500
because he lost again, but I
didn't find out till, like,

859
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:58,100
Saturday, and I'm like, sitting
there, like, Brian, who got me

860
00:49:58,100 --> 00:50:02,200
again, got me again, but
eventually he's gonna get fired.

861
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:06,000
Um, so I'll make up that Brian.
I know you were at the beach,

862
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,600
you're doing a lot of things,
but let me tell you some

863
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,000
Saturday.
That's one of those days for

864
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,300
college.
Ball that even though the Hokies

865
00:50:14,300 --> 00:50:18,300
lost and it sucks.
But maybe, as you get older,

866
00:50:18,300 --> 00:50:21,700
it's easier.
And we're slowly approaching 40.

867
00:50:21,700 --> 00:50:24,800
Maybe that's why makes it easier
for us the afternoon in the

868
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:28,800
nights later games, man.
I mean, three unbelievable

869
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:32,300
games.
Yeah, I mean, it was kind of, it

870
00:50:32,300 --> 00:50:34,500
was fun all day, man.
It was fun all day.

871
00:50:34,500 --> 00:50:38,600
We had, you know, we started the
day with our Hokies had some big

872
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:42,000
matchups in the afternoon, had a
good evening slate.

873
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:46,200
Got got to like check back and
forth on what Michigan.

874
00:50:46,300 --> 00:50:50,600
Doing during our game.
So, I mean, well, that became

875
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,200
very apparent about six minutes
into the second half.

876
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,100
They just turned on the
afterburners.

877
00:50:55,100 --> 00:50:56,900
Yeah.
And just left Penn State.

878
00:50:56,900 --> 00:51:01,800
Unfortunately, I was my pick was
Okie State, four and a half of

879
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:03,500
that day and gonna go to
overtime.

880
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:09,800
I make it, but give TCU credit
down 14, with, like under 10

881
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:11,500
left, they come all the way
back.

882
00:51:11,500 --> 00:51:18,100
And when the other game I was
tuned into Too late night Kyle,

883
00:51:18,100 --> 00:51:22,800
Winningham has balls of stone
because it's 4241, you're

884
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,300
playing USC and he says screw
over time.

885
00:51:25,300 --> 00:51:27,900
He goes 42 and they get it and
they beat USC.

886
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,000
Yeah, that was a big.
I was a big dump move.

887
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:35,000
They big nut move.
Now obviously though the big one

888
00:51:35,100 --> 00:51:40,300
we both were watching.
I'm sure it made us all cry a

889
00:51:40,300 --> 00:51:42,600
little on the inside.
I'll hook you fans can admit it,

890
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:47,100
especially if you knew obviously
the hinted hooker thing but then

891
00:51:47,100 --> 00:51:49,800
who is throwing too.
But that was an unbelievable

892
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,800
game.
Start to finish, start to finish

893
00:51:53,700 --> 00:51:57,900
Tennessee, kind of gets out
early, Alabama claws back then

894
00:51:57,900 --> 00:52:02,900
it's a back-and-forth show to
kind of close things out and you

895
00:52:02,900 --> 00:52:05,000
get a missed field goal in One
Direction.

896
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:09,400
You get two, good plays by
Hendon and In field goal range,

897
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:13,400
field goal gets tipped.
It's tipped and it Knuckles

898
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,400
through the damn goal, post and
clears.

899
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:21,500
The upright by about that much.
Oh, that was wild and then, you

900
00:52:21,500 --> 00:52:24,300
know, love them, hate Tennessee,
you rushed the field on that,

901
00:52:24,300 --> 00:52:26,800
you do tear down the goalposts.
You go crazy.

902
00:52:27,100 --> 00:52:29,900
You tear down the goalposts.
You pull up some some Checker

903
00:52:29,900 --> 00:52:33,300
Turf.
Oh my God, the whole shebang,

904
00:52:33,300 --> 00:52:36,100
man.
I hope one day we can do that

905
00:52:36,100 --> 00:52:39,800
again in Lane Stadium.
By the way tomorrow?

906
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:41,300
Brian.
Do you know what tomorrow is?

907
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:49,900
Well, we got Sports Equinox.
Hey Equinox on 1020 for those

908
00:52:49,900 --> 00:52:51,300
who don't know what a sporty
could knock.

909
00:52:51,300 --> 00:52:55,800
Is basically every major sport
in this country including

910
00:52:55,800 --> 00:53:00,000
college football will be played
tomorrow night baseball,

911
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:03,700
playoffs NFL college football,
hockey and NBA.

912
00:53:03,700 --> 00:53:08,100
And it's was you should like
take off from work, but we can't

913
00:53:08,100 --> 00:53:10,200
because we've already taken too
many days off this year for

914
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:14,700
other things but you know it's
awesome when it happens.

915
00:53:14,900 --> 00:53:18,300
It really is because you can't
get away from it and it's one of

916
00:53:18,308 --> 00:53:20,700
those where it's, yeah, I'm not
watching a show tonight.

917
00:53:20,700 --> 00:53:25,500
I'm watching some sort of sport
Curtis wants yesterday's sick

918
00:53:25,500 --> 00:53:29,700
day back so he can take it
tomorrow Friday the Friday.

919
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:35,000
Alright, another thing that came
up and we saw some Hokies

920
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:36,900
respond so I had to put it on
here.

921
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,900
Someone I've seen in concert, I
think you saw in concert but

922
00:53:40,900 --> 00:53:43,100
Marty Smith takes put out there
in a tweak.

923
00:53:43,100 --> 00:53:47,600
What is the best?
Alan Some song, I'll let you

924
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:52,100
lead sir.
Alright, so my pick is Midnight

925
00:53:52,100 --> 00:53:55,800
in Montgomery.
It's the the ain't go song, you

926
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:59,600
know, there's there's like a
plethora of Hank Go songs, but I

927
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,600
put Midnight in Montgomery right
up there with the ride by David

928
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:07,900
Allan Coe, as the two upper
echelon, goes to Hank, Williams

929
00:54:07,900 --> 00:54:11,200
songs.
And then, the other one is, I

930
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:14,900
don't even know your name.
Jeff, Foxworthy in the This

931
00:54:14,900 --> 00:54:20,000
video some classic
tongue-in-cheek like fruit.

932
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:26,900
Yeah justjust great
quintessential 90s country song

933
00:54:27,100 --> 00:54:30,300
true true.
Both of them and two songs that

934
00:54:30,300 --> 00:54:33,600
a lot of people who here Alan
Jackson probably can't correlate

935
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,500
unless you follow the country at
that point in time I want to go

936
00:54:36,500 --> 00:54:40,300
to both weepers the best song,
his all times here in the real

937
00:54:40,300 --> 00:54:44,100
world, my opinion.
Because the opening line of that

938
00:54:44,100 --> 00:54:46,600
song of cowboys don't die in
here.

939
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,700
Oh don't cry.
That gets here, because here in

940
00:54:49,700 --> 00:54:52,000
the real world, the boy don't
always get the girl, breaks your

941
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:58,200
heart and then someday.
I mean, just like the most weepy

942
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:01,100
ballad songs you ever heard, but
if you listen to them, the

943
00:55:01,500 --> 00:55:07,700
poetic piece in, there is big
and Brawn before we go to break.

944
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:09,900
Alan Jackson's got some all-time
weepers though.

945
00:55:09,900 --> 00:55:12,800
He does though, man.
Remember when Drive?

946
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:16,600
I mean it's he's he's he's one
of the greatest.

947
00:55:17,100 --> 00:55:20,100
I would say some people say
contemporary he's one of the

948
00:55:20,107 --> 00:55:23,800
greatest country song writers of
all time and all four songs we

949
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:30,000
mentioned Wrote, he wrote those
songs, some of the songs and

950
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:31,800
we're not even mentioned, where
were you, when the world stopped

951
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,200
turning.
And I, like what somebody said

952
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:38,200
on that one, like he wrote that
song and nobody helps tried

953
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,200
after that fact, Brian real
quick.

954
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:45,300
Before we go to break here on
dueling a remembrance because

955
00:55:46,100 --> 00:55:52,000
year ago today we lost one of
our best friends and you know,

956
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,700
You put up the story of your
Facebook page about the Rumple

957
00:55:55,700 --> 00:55:58,900
Minze, a which, to this day, we
were in college.

958
00:55:59,500 --> 00:56:02,000
Yep, Brown Wilkerson there with
this bunch of other buddies,

959
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:07,600
Robbie Jason and we make a shit
ton of shots with a variety of

960
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,400
Liquors.
One of them was Rumple Minze.

961
00:56:11,700 --> 00:56:13,400
Brian you mentioned on there,
man?

962
00:56:14,500 --> 00:56:18,100
About that night and I remember
that night that he was the only

963
00:56:18,100 --> 00:56:20,700
person of our group that somehow
all night.

964
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:25,200
Didn't take a Rumple Minze shot.
Yeah, he knew.

965
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:28,700
Which one's had the blue label,
vodka, and which one's had the

966
00:56:28,700 --> 00:56:31,700
Rumple Minze?
And he had and my God, he got

967
00:56:31,700 --> 00:56:35,300
none of them.
And we got all of them and you

968
00:56:35,308 --> 00:56:38,600
were in college, you didn't spit
out liquor, but just one of

969
00:56:38,607 --> 00:56:41,900
those moments and, you know,
it's been a year I missed the

970
00:56:41,900 --> 00:56:44,400
test because he would be texting
us or putting something Right

971
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:49,200
now on here, and Brian will
always miss you man.

972
00:56:49,500 --> 00:56:53,400
And and and I said, I'm not in
my post.

973
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,600
I am a man of many words,
anybody's ever, met me and talk

974
00:56:56,600 --> 00:57:01,100
to me, I can, I can talk your
ear off all day, but for him and

975
00:57:01,100 --> 00:57:03,600
I'm thinking this me and Brian
we miss you, man.

976
00:57:03,700 --> 00:57:07,200
We're always going to miss you.
And now all for additional

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Now back to the episode All

985
00:57:32,700 --> 00:57:35,900
right, Brian.
So let's get into the what if

986
00:57:37,300 --> 00:57:40,000
so, about a month ago?
I mean, Brian were kicking

987
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:41,300
around.
What do we do about?

988
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,700
Do we just go in and do a recap
and kick it?

989
00:57:44,300 --> 00:57:46,500
That wouldn't be fun.
We did that.

990
00:57:46,500 --> 00:57:49,800
Last year, we did that.
Yeah, we did this.

991
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:51,200
We got to keep you all over your
toes.

992
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,900
You can't just forgive the same
shit every year, exactly.

993
00:57:53,900 --> 00:57:59,500
But this year is the, what if
it's the, you know, wish you

994
00:57:59,500 --> 00:58:00,700
were here?
I miss you.

995
00:58:00,900 --> 00:58:02,700
You.
I wish I'd like to have that one

996
00:58:02,700 --> 00:58:04,100
back.
Think of all those songs in your

997
00:58:04,100 --> 00:58:09,200
head of all the hockey players
that left last year declaring

998
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:15,000
for the draft portal.
And all that who would be and we

999
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:18,200
were merging it for.
But Brian said that's too easy.

1000
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:21,800
We got to make it three.
Who are the three players?

1001
00:58:21,900 --> 00:58:26,500
You wish you could have back on
this team and then legibility

1002
00:58:26,500 --> 00:58:30,300
remaining that either left early
portal.

1003
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:34,800
So we start going through the
list and we've got our list

1004
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,100
here, and what we're going to do
is go through all the players

1005
00:58:37,100 --> 00:58:38,600
and then we're going to go
through.

1006
00:58:40,500 --> 00:58:44,300
Are 3, because there are three
do not match per se.

1007
00:58:45,500 --> 00:58:47,500
And then we're going to talk
about what we think we'd be at.

1008
00:58:47,500 --> 00:58:50,300
Now, let's start here.
Brian one guy, maybe kind of

1009
00:58:50,300 --> 00:58:53,300
unsung guy.
Pay daily.

1010
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,300
You know I'll let you give us
pros and I'll give some of those

1011
00:58:56,300 --> 00:59:01,700
kinds and we'll go why he's not
back essentially on us.

1012
00:59:01,700 --> 00:59:04,100
Yeah.
I mean the pros of him coming

1013
00:59:04,100 --> 00:59:06,700
back for his this year, he could
have given us more flexibility

1014
00:59:06,700 --> 00:59:10,300
at safety or Sam linebacker and
he would have provided some

1015
00:59:10,300 --> 00:59:12,900
additional leadership on the
defense as a.

1016
00:59:12,908 --> 00:59:18,700
Another veteran on that back end
and sort of the Cons with it is

1017
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:22,300
he was a solid but not as you
know, spectacular player.

1018
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:25,700
A good player and sometimes a
little bit inconsistent when

1019
00:59:25,700 --> 00:59:28,100
it's technique and I think as we
were discussing this and we're

1020
00:59:28,100 --> 00:59:31,100
talking Tay, I think the back is
just good enough.

1021
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:36,100
I think the back end is good
enough where it is in.

1022
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:39,200
You know, the only thing you
could say, is, could you save a

1023
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:40,800
red shirt?
And I think we're now to the

1024
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:44,300
point where saving a red shirt.
We're not seeing that work out

1025
00:59:44,300 --> 00:59:46,300
because some of the guys who are
playing are better.

1026
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:49,200
Yeah, absolutely.
All right.

1027
00:59:49,700 --> 00:59:53,000
Next on our list guy, we had on
this show, It was Jordan

1028
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:56,200
Williams.
Now the pros for Jordan I mean

1029
00:59:56,500 --> 00:59:59,600
he was one of we thought about
it long and hard maybe shouldn't

1030
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:03,900
be as high but we just did it in
an order because his body type

1031
01:00:03,900 --> 01:00:06,000
and his play style fits.
What we're doing on the

1032
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:09,100
defensive side of the ball
without a shadow of a doubt

1033
01:00:09,500 --> 01:00:11,800
gives that line even more
leadership.

1034
01:00:11,900 --> 01:00:15,200
And then by maybe I made the
point, he creates some winning

1035
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:19,800
match ups because of what we're
asking him to do, there would be

1036
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:24,100
times where Garbutt wouldn't be
getting Guard hand in his face

1037
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:26,800
as he goes around the end.
Yep.

1038
01:00:26,900 --> 01:00:29,100
They would have to come inside
and focus on Jordan a little

1039
01:00:29,100 --> 01:00:30,300
bit.
It's another guy.

1040
01:00:30,300 --> 01:00:32,700
You got to look down for
heavily.

1041
01:00:32,900 --> 01:00:36,200
It gives you a veteran four-man
rotation.

1042
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,300
They're just, you know, there's
a lot of things that would that

1043
01:00:39,300 --> 01:00:41,500
would benefit their.
Now, the kind of him coming

1044
01:00:41,500 --> 01:00:44,700
back, I think he had kind of
already maximized his draft

1045
01:00:44,700 --> 01:00:47,500
stock, which we took into
account, because we have to

1046
01:00:47,500 --> 01:00:48,800
because that's their guy at
their money.

1047
01:00:49,500 --> 01:00:53,000
Yeah.
And I think in terms of Oops, it

1048
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:56,600
would've been fewer steps for
Wilfred permit penne to grow

1049
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:58,800
into the position.
And if you're thinking

1050
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:02,900
long-term, that's probably
better for us in a year like

1051
01:01:02,900 --> 01:01:08,000
this year, where is throwing a
guy like Jordan back in there?

1052
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:11,000
Make it big difference in the
win-loss column, you know, who's

1053
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:15,000
to say, absolutely.
So, if Jordan, and obviously,

1054
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:20,700
we've seen having food on seeing
Kendricks and Pinette and

1055
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:24,000
Pollard we played good.
Could he be beneficial?

1056
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:26,500
Yeah, absolutely.
All right, next one.

1057
01:01:26,500 --> 01:01:28,200
And this was one of the tough
ones.

1058
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:33,200
It was Jermaine Waller.
I mean, I love strong to death,

1059
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:35,400
but Waller is a better Corner
than him.

1060
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:37,700
Yeah.
Yeah.

1061
01:01:37,700 --> 01:01:41,000
I mean it's not light years
better especially you know we

1062
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,800
haven't really seen him not
banged up since 2019.

1063
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:46,200
Sure.
But he would have been an

1064
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:48,100
immediate number one corner on
the team.

1065
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:51,700
You know, he'd be back in a
system that better fits his

1066
01:01:51,700 --> 01:01:54,600
skill set.
We think about when he had his

1067
01:01:54,600 --> 01:02:00,600
best year, it was 2019 when he
was playing kind of more of a

1068
01:02:00,700 --> 01:02:04,500
similar style to what we're
playing now and you know, it

1069
01:02:04,500 --> 01:02:07,700
will given us some more rotation
flexibility in the secondary,

1070
01:02:08,500 --> 01:02:11,700
whether it's, you know, nickel
corner or different things like

1071
01:02:11,700 --> 01:02:13,500
that.
We have been able to get a lot

1072
01:02:13,500 --> 01:02:22,400
more matchup based situations.
We're not in any sort of Area

1073
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:25,200
where we're guys can take
advantage of mismatches.

1074
01:02:26,100 --> 01:02:28,100
Absolutely.
And I'll sort of the cons

1075
01:02:28,100 --> 01:02:32,100
similar to Jordan Williams.
He'd already maximized his draft

1076
01:02:32,100 --> 01:02:34,300
stock.
I think where he was where he

1077
01:02:34,300 --> 01:02:38,200
was, but for him, it was the
injury history to because if you

1078
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:41,100
think about that, you know, he
essentially retired from the

1079
01:02:41,107 --> 01:02:43,800
lines due to an injury.
What if it was something that

1080
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:46,400
happened in Spring ball where
like the trainers are like

1081
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:49,400
listening if you don't quit
football right now.

1082
01:02:50,300 --> 01:02:52,400
You're going to walk with a limp
for the rest of your life, or,

1083
01:02:52,900 --> 01:02:55,300
you know, you're not gonna be
able to do these things.

1084
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:58,100
Yeah, I don't know what happened
to Troy but usually when a guy

1085
01:02:58,100 --> 01:03:00,100
retires like that, it's
something where they're saying

1086
01:03:00,100 --> 01:03:04,000
the rest of your life is going
to be affected by this, and then

1087
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,000
a lot of it, what keeps going
back to is?

1088
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:09,700
It's less snaps for Harvey and
struggling and obviously both of

1089
01:03:09,707 --> 01:03:13,800
them played very well on
Saturday and kind of playing

1090
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:16,800
well for the season.
So as much as it's a temptation

1091
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:22,500
to have Waller and strong and
really Probably turn a top.

1092
01:03:23,300 --> 01:03:26,400
That's a top, have a cc
secondary into probably an elite

1093
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:30,100
third.
We just neither one of us could

1094
01:03:30,100 --> 01:03:33,100
pull the trigger on.
Yeah, it was close.

1095
01:03:33,100 --> 01:03:34,300
It was close for, sure.
It's closed.

1096
01:03:34,300 --> 01:03:37,000
Now, another one that I thought
Brian was going to pull the

1097
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:40,900
trigger on how much she loved
him, all these years was Raheem

1098
01:03:40,900 --> 01:03:46,100
Blackshear.
Now, I think we see how they've

1099
01:03:46,100 --> 01:03:49,800
used the players in this scheme.
How they Malachi had six balls.

1100
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:52,900
As we've seen them, run some
good place to Keshawn King.

1101
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:55,200
He definitely would have
probably got his skillset

1102
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:59,700
maximized.
It also would have meant a lot

1103
01:03:59,700 --> 01:04:03,500
better rotation when Thomas was
healthy, when shooting when

1104
01:04:03,500 --> 01:04:08,500
Thomas was injured and obviously
he's one of the he is already

1105
01:04:08,700 --> 01:04:12,000
after he got traded or released
inside North Carolina and

1106
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:14,900
against minors, he is showing
his value in the kick return

1107
01:04:14,900 --> 01:04:18,600
game and we saw that a few times
last year when he had big run

1108
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:21,400
backs.
So you Sort of that depth where

1109
01:04:22,100 --> 01:04:25,000
you again, it's sort of, as a
trickle effect, right?

1110
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:27,600
And if it helps with depth all
around because you don't have to

1111
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:30,200
rush him and Keyshawn out there
together, you can rush them out

1112
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:32,600
one at a time and so on, and so
forth.

1113
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:36,700
Now what's the cons on him?
Right, you know, I think that

1114
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:39,600
one of the cons is that he loses
some value with the healthy

1115
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:42,700
Thomas and then a Revitalize
Keshawn King this year.

1116
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:47,800
You know, you got three mouths
to feed Our who's going to get

1117
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:50,800
some of those carries is it
going to be kind of a true, you

1118
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:52,500
know?
Rotation is it going to still be

1119
01:04:52,500 --> 01:04:54,400
Thomas?
Kind of the lead guy and then

1120
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:58,800
you have black sheer and KK kind
of working in there and it's

1121
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:00,000
going to cause some of the young
players.

1122
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,000
Some reps.
I wish we could get brass Duke.

1123
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:05,900
Some more carries this year as
things goes along red shirts,

1124
01:05:05,900 --> 01:05:07,500
already burned.
So we might as well take some

1125
01:05:07,500 --> 01:05:10,200
Advantage there.
You probably wouldn't have that.

1126
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:14,100
If you had blacks back on this
team and kind of like the some

1127
01:05:14,100 --> 01:05:15,700
of the others we already talked
about he'd probably already

1128
01:05:15,700 --> 01:05:18,900
maximized.
Stock and especially, and

1129
01:05:18,900 --> 01:05:21,100
especially for his age, as a
running back.

1130
01:05:23,100 --> 01:05:25,600
You're running back incoming
backs, not going to

1131
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:28,900
significantly improve your dress
that and get out there get on

1132
01:05:28,900 --> 01:05:31,500
the team.
Find a roster spot and get

1133
01:05:31,500 --> 01:05:33,600
moving.
Do exactly what he's done when

1134
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:35,100
he got the Carolina.
Yep.

1135
01:05:35,100 --> 01:05:37,500
He nail has a roster spot,
probably for the rest of the

1136
01:05:37,500 --> 01:05:40,000
year there and they'll probably
bring him back next year, so

1137
01:05:40,300 --> 01:05:43,800
making the right decisions.
Now we're getting into the

1138
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:45,900
really tough ones that we left
off.

1139
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:48,700
And some people are going to
curse and say, how do you leave

1140
01:05:48,700 --> 01:05:51,100
these guys off?
The first one is Brock.

1141
01:05:51,100 --> 01:05:55,700
Hoffman and Brian.
I'll let you get into the pros

1142
01:05:55,700 --> 01:05:58,300
of why we could have brought
them back.

1143
01:05:59,100 --> 01:06:01,400
Yeah, I mean he would be an
upgrade on the offensive line

1144
01:06:02,100 --> 01:06:06,700
mainly because of his
versatility, his skill set would

1145
01:06:06,700 --> 01:06:10,900
also fit Rudolph skiing probably
as good or better than anybody

1146
01:06:10,900 --> 01:06:14,600
in the current line right now
and he's got a nasty streak and

1147
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:16,500
kind of sets the tone for the
off.

1148
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:21,000
It's so I think that would be
kind of a good personality to

1149
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:24,900
have on this style of Team, you
know.

1150
01:06:24,908 --> 01:06:27,300
But there are some cons Curtis
I'll let you roll with those.

1151
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:30,400
Well another big con we keep
going back to it more and more

1152
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:33,000
and more is he maximize his
draft stock?

1153
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:37,000
You know Brock was already
rocks, 23 years old in an

1154
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:39,100
offensive lineman it's very
similar.

1155
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:42,700
You start getting up there in
years, you know, Brian you

1156
01:06:42,700 --> 01:06:45,000
played for years, you hit a
wall, it's over.

1157
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:48,800
Now, you have you Freaks Like
Kelsey and Trent Williams who

1158
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:51,400
somehow complete 15 years.
They don't lose a step, but most

1159
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:56,200
times, it's 56 years and guys
done because of the hole in the

1160
01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:57,300
punishment that takes on the
body.

1161
01:06:57,300 --> 01:07:00,100
So we maximize Drive stop.
He had to take it.

1162
01:07:00,100 --> 01:07:02,400
And now, you know, he's made
Cleveland's roster, great for

1163
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:05,700
him, the personal fouls and
penalties is something we've

1164
01:07:05,700 --> 01:07:09,300
tried to clean up.
And a couple of those games have

1165
01:07:09,300 --> 01:07:11,000
brought was still on the
offensive line.

1166
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:13,800
I'm wondering if we could have
been closer to 200 yards of

1167
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:16,400
Total Building yard, we were
like to lie.

1168
01:07:16,700 --> 01:07:19,200
Penalized team in power 5.
Last year.

1169
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:20,600
And like half of those were
Brock.

1170
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:22,100
Hoffman.
Exactly.

1171
01:07:23,300 --> 01:07:26,400
Probably the other.
Point significant upgraded

1172
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:29,800
Center.
We do say specifically Center

1173
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:33,100
because of obviously y'all don't
hear names being called, you're

1174
01:07:33,100 --> 01:07:36,800
going to figure out the rest but
Johnny's played well this year

1175
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:41,500
Johnny's clay came in and asked
to do good and he's done well

1176
01:07:41,500 --> 01:07:44,200
and it's tough to leave an
offensive lineman off because of

1177
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:48,200
the struggles we have but I
think as you get into it, you

1178
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:53,000
guys are going to see why.
Now, this was the biggie, this

1179
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:58,000
was the one.
We we literally last Friday On

1180
01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:01,400
the phone for what?
Probably an hour and 20 minutes

1181
01:08:02,300 --> 01:08:07,600
and 25 were talking about this
guy and it's James Mitchell.

1182
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:11,100
Who's currently the Detroit
Lions?

1183
01:08:11,300 --> 01:08:15,200
He clearly would have been the
best athlete on the field.

1184
01:08:15,300 --> 01:08:16,600
On the offensive side of the
ball.

1185
01:08:16,899 --> 01:08:21,800
Ricardo to you, bring back the
other pieces, Brian and talked

1186
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:23,000
about it.
We're already seeing it with

1187
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:26,600
Daquan right and some with Nick
Gallo this really would have

1188
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:28,800
benefited.
Hits the coaching scheme of

1189
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:31,100
collarbone?
What a significantly benefited

1190
01:08:31,100 --> 01:08:34,700
him.
He got drafted in the sixth

1191
01:08:34,700 --> 01:08:37,899
round.
He got to be grafted mostly off

1192
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:42,300
some good Red Zone scores and
athleticism and the other thing

1193
01:08:42,300 --> 01:08:44,800
is you just said it Ron.
He could have potentially

1194
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:48,200
maximize his draft potential.
Now, does that mean day one?

1195
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:52,600
I'd say no, I would say no later
than early day three.

1196
01:08:52,600 --> 01:09:00,700
So probably somewhere between
pick Sin 115 the upper half of

1197
01:09:00,707 --> 01:09:02,700
the round for.
So he would have maximized about

1198
01:09:02,700 --> 01:09:04,300
24 around which would have been
a lot of money.

1199
01:09:04,300 --> 01:09:06,800
Yeah.
It's he probably goes from where

1200
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:09,800
he was to either late day to
early day three.

1201
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:14,100
Now there are few cons we only
got two, instead of three.

1202
01:09:15,399 --> 01:09:19,800
Yep, the biggest one is that
that's probably the deepest room

1203
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:23,100
in terms of ability in our
roster right now.

1204
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:27,200
We already have two hybrid
players that were working in

1205
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:29,399
obviously.
One is a true freshman and

1206
01:09:29,399 --> 01:09:34,000
Daquan right?
The other is Connor blumrich

1207
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:36,800
which we haven't really seen a
whole lot of sense.

1208
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:41,600
Rights kind of come on but you
know we still have guys at that

1209
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:44,200
position that we can line up and
get some production out of.

1210
01:09:44,700 --> 01:09:47,300
And I think the other one is
that he kind of knew he'd have a

1211
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:52,399
spot on an NFL roster, bit this
resume just based on that

1212
01:09:52,399 --> 01:09:56,100
athleticism.
Yep I mean his size his speed

1213
01:09:56,100 --> 01:09:58,800
and hands those They're already
there.

1214
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:02,600
You know, the only knock on him
was coming off the injury.

1215
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:05,000
Obviously, yep.
Not really being able to fully

1216
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:07,300
work out for a lot of these
teams before the draft.

1217
01:10:07,500 --> 01:10:10,900
And that was a point.
Me in Brian made about the

1218
01:10:10,900 --> 01:10:14,300
injury.
History, is a guy who has his

1219
01:10:14,300 --> 01:10:17,900
type of ability, teams will
draft even if they're hurt.

1220
01:10:18,100 --> 01:10:20,200
And if they aren't up to full
speed to begin, see, there are

1221
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:21,800
our the right on their full
paycheck.

1222
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:25,200
And I are on because a, a team,
like, the Lions know, there are

1223
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:29,200
certain teams who are very well.
L ran that will go snipe those

1224
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:33,100
players in a heartbeat and put
them on practice squad.

1225
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:36,100
And sometimes we leave through
the practice squad, they say,

1226
01:10:36,100 --> 01:10:38,400
well, you can go back there or
we'll give you half a million

1227
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:41,000
dollars to be a practice white
guy because we think you're

1228
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:42,300
going to be on the roster next
year.

1229
01:10:42,700 --> 01:10:46,300
So, I think he, he knew, he knew
that he was going to land, and I

1230
01:10:46,308 --> 01:10:49,200
think we look, he was already
fully guaranteed a million bucks

1231
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:50,900
this year.
So he's already got

1232
01:10:50,900 --> 01:10:52,500
life-changing money, right out
the gate.

1233
01:10:52,900 --> 01:10:54,400
Yeah.
All right.

1234
01:10:54,500 --> 01:10:59,600
So let's do this.
Brian, we have basically A one

1235
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:04,800
consensus, pick one opposite
pick and then two players.

1236
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:07,700
We sort of said I could take one
of the other, you'll probably

1237
01:11:07,700 --> 01:11:10,000
can guess the last two.
But let's start with the

1238
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:12,200
consensus problem.
Let's start with the seat is

1239
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:15,200
Smith and what he would bring to
this team for this year.

1240
01:11:16,500 --> 01:11:18,600
Yeah, I mean the big thing is an
immediate upgrade on the

1241
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:21,700
offensive line.
I think with his versatility he

1242
01:11:21,700 --> 01:11:24,000
could be a starting left guard
or left tackle.

1243
01:11:24,700 --> 01:11:27,600
That would move Silas back over
to write that would really

1244
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:30,100
assure up a lot of some of the
problems that we've seen on the

1245
01:11:30,100 --> 01:11:35,100
offensive line, provide veteran
leadership from a proven Talent.

1246
01:11:35,100 --> 01:11:38,300
So we've got some leaders out
there on this line, but Silas

1247
01:11:38,300 --> 01:11:41,800
has been in and out of the
lineup and up and down the depth

1248
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:45,600
chart his entire career.
Johnny wasn't a starter last

1249
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:47,100
year.
This will be a guy that was a

1250
01:11:47,108 --> 01:11:51,200
three-year starter that
immediately guys could respond

1251
01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:54,100
to could lean on things of that
nature.

1252
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:58,900
He would likely adapt better to
the scheme and the adjustments

1253
01:11:59,300 --> 01:12:02,000
that were needed and can help
the others with that

1254
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:04,100
communication and things that
were needed to kind of get

1255
01:12:04,100 --> 01:12:07,000
everybody on the same page.
So that's going to lift the

1256
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:10,800
running game as a whole and it
would help in the passing game

1257
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:14,500
as well with some of those
protection calls and some of the

1258
01:12:14,508 --> 01:12:16,500
communications that's needed for
those switches.

1259
01:12:18,900 --> 01:12:21,400
And you mentioned Brian, how
this would everything would

1260
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:23,600
benefit the Run game as a whole
if he came back and I think

1261
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:26,400
that's 100% regardless what they
did with him.

1262
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:29,000
Regardless, if you say, hey
we're going to keep Solace at.

1263
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:30,800
We're going to, we're going to
move Silas, the left tackle,

1264
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:34,600
he's going to play left tackle.
And we'll see the cigar well,

1265
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:36,400
with some of those inside Powers
Grand.

1266
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:40,200
I'm sure there are times you see
it and you just think hatoful

1267
01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:43,400
see, this will start.
That whole would have opened

1268
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:47,600
immediately kind of what you're
seeing from Braylon more and him

1269
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:51,300
being a Fix as a lot because he
went in the fifth round he could

1270
01:12:51,300 --> 01:12:55,300
have went a lot earlier shows.
You sometimes guard slip but I

1271
01:12:55,300 --> 01:12:59,000
think the leadership I think
having him like him and Silas

1272
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:02,500
both being there and having that
voice it just gives you so many

1273
01:13:02,500 --> 01:13:03,800
options.
Yep.

1274
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:06,600
And it's tough.
Not to say that guy's not on the

1275
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:10,200
team just by himself.
The team's not better when lost

1276
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:13,900
wise today.
That's a right.

1277
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:16,000
So write that down, Brian and
Curtis.

1278
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:19,700
We both wish lists M Smith and
what if he was back.

1279
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:23,500
Now, let's go into our opposites
because this is where we split.

1280
01:13:23,500 --> 01:13:28,800
I'll let you lead sir.
So I mean I'm an offensive line

1281
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:30,800
guys.
So what do you think I'm going

1282
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:33,600
to do?
I've got Luke tenuta coming back

1283
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:35,200
to play.
Left tackle for as you know, how

1284
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:35,900
we said.
Let's see.

1285
01:13:35,900 --> 01:13:39,600
This myth could play left guard
or left tackle in my scenario.

1286
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:42,800
He's playing guard because we
got Luke 2 It coming back to

1287
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:45,100
play left tackle.
We're side in silence over to

1288
01:13:45,100 --> 01:13:50,400
write either way and it's the
trickle-down benefits.

1289
01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:54,100
Now, you've got a solid left
side, you've got Silas on the

1290
01:13:54,100 --> 01:13:58,600
right not having to have quite
as many responsibilities in

1291
01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:01,900
terms of protecting the
quarterbacks Blindside provides

1292
01:14:01,900 --> 01:14:05,600
depth in case of injuries.
Now, you got Parker coming off

1293
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:08,700
your bench as the sub guy
instead of having to be relied

1294
01:14:08,700 --> 01:14:13,900
on every snap and it's a Upgrade
in the Run blocking and it's

1295
01:14:13,900 --> 01:14:15,800
more consistent past Pro.
As a unit.

1296
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:20,700
I know that tenuta sometimes
had, you know, little little

1297
01:14:20,700 --> 01:14:24,700
lazy sets that he get beat on,
but he was he's a lot more

1298
01:14:24,700 --> 01:14:26,700
consistent.
I think, overall, the what we've

1299
01:14:26,700 --> 01:14:30,100
seen this year from both
tackles, so he would definitely

1300
01:14:30,100 --> 01:14:33,500
have lifted that unit as a whole
and it could benefit Parker's

1301
01:14:33,500 --> 01:14:36,800
development kind of sitting back
another season, watching these

1302
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:41,200
guys work and kind of working in
when he had the opportunity.

1303
01:14:42,100 --> 01:14:44,600
Having to kind of be thrown to
the Wolves a little bit this

1304
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:47,800
year and seeing how he struggled
in this new system.

1305
01:14:48,100 --> 01:14:51,500
I think getting a little bit
more watch time a little bit

1306
01:14:51,500 --> 01:14:54,900
more extra rep time instead of
having to you know go out there

1307
01:14:54,900 --> 01:14:57,300
and show it could have benefited
him this year.

1308
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:01,100
All right?
And I went completely opposite

1309
01:15:01,100 --> 01:15:04,400
opposite side of the ball and to
me you got to bring him re bar.

1310
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:07,400
No back.
I mean the guy would immediately

1311
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:11,500
be the most Dynamic Athlete on
the field and I think with him

1312
01:15:11,500 --> 01:15:15,900
coming back.
Back as the opposite Edge rusher

1313
01:15:15,900 --> 01:15:18,100
with garbage.
You'd have a dynamic duo there,

1314
01:15:18,500 --> 01:15:20,200
right?
You'd have to orbit who's had a

1315
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:23,100
good season.
You'd have bar know who not many

1316
01:15:23,100 --> 01:15:24,700
left tackles to get their hands
on.

1317
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:28,800
I think you would move that room
in the defense from middle of

1318
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:32,900
the ACC, kind of top 40 country,
probably too near the top of the

1319
01:15:32,900 --> 01:15:37,900
ACC, probably top 20, top 15 in
the country having that sort of

1320
01:15:38,500 --> 01:15:41,700
pass rush presence.
But the other big pieces.

1321
01:15:41,700 --> 01:15:46,000
If he Back it allows McRae and
Nelson to develop without being

1322
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:49,100
asked to do too much and we are
asking them a lot to do.

1323
01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:51,800
We are we are asking them to do
a lot this year.

1324
01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:55,400
They've done well in spots, they
had some struggles in spots so

1325
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:58,700
for me is bad as the offense has
struggled.

1326
01:15:58,700 --> 01:16:01,800
Yes, it's 117.
Yes, we're struggling all over

1327
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:04,800
the place.
What's good make?

1328
01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:07,900
Great because I've seen the top
15 defense.

1329
01:16:07,900 --> 01:16:13,000
Even with 100, ranked offense,
when 10 games and I still think

1330
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:15,200
that can happen now.
Brian.

1331
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:21,400
But other Iowa, I mean, I would
say gz, but, but here's the

1332
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:25,100
thing, Brian and I want to make
a Counterpoint to loosen it up.

1333
01:16:25,900 --> 01:16:29,000
I think bringing the seed is
back, and I think if he wasn't

1334
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:32,800
my one, if I didn't have a
little cetus to neuter, Hoffman,

1335
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:35,400
one of those guys.
A Mac, but I think having the

1336
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:40,500
Cedars back it automatically,
because if you feel like it,

1337
01:16:40,500 --> 01:16:42,900
goes back schematics, right?
Well, if you playing at left

1338
01:16:42,900 --> 01:16:45,700
tackle, you still start Hanson?
It Garden, can let Silas and

1339
01:16:45,700 --> 01:16:49,300
them battle in to your point if
Parker's not clicking.

1340
01:16:50,100 --> 01:16:52,900
Because Silas, playing Left For
the First Time.

1341
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:56,600
Yes, he's had his moments but
he's also done a decent job.

1342
01:16:57,700 --> 01:17:00,100
You know, I could see the, see
this doing that.

1343
01:17:00,100 --> 01:17:02,100
And having Hanson and still
letting more.

1344
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:07,200
Remember that your boy more
little more if placitas and Luke

1345
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:09,400
come back?
He is not getting the Run

1346
01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:12,200
showing what he can do solidify
himself for next year.

1347
01:17:14,500 --> 01:17:22,100
That's a good point, but at the
same time, we've got a couple of

1348
01:17:22,100 --> 01:17:26,500
running backs that have shown
the ability of Thomas to make

1349
01:17:27,500 --> 01:17:31,100
good plays in the great plays
and King to be explosive and hit

1350
01:17:31,100 --> 01:17:34,700
the home run.
If we give them a little bit

1351
01:17:34,700 --> 01:17:38,200
more space to operate this
running game can be pretty

1352
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:42,400
dynamic.
So if you add in two other

1353
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:46,700
players to shore up the the
weaker areas of the of the

1354
01:17:46,700 --> 01:17:51,600
offensive line the trickle down
to me is much more important

1355
01:17:51,900 --> 01:17:55,500
than what bar?
No can bring on the other side

1356
01:17:55,900 --> 01:18:01,000
because I think, you know, McRae
doesn't has a similar skill set.

1357
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:04,500
Not quite as Dynamic.
Not quite as you know, the

1358
01:18:04,500 --> 01:18:06,600
combination of size and speed a
bar.

1359
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:10,400
No, but he's got a similar
skills that he's pretty pretty.

1360
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:15,200
Long and pretty fast.
I think what we can do on the

1361
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:17,700
offensive side will benefit us.
All right?

1362
01:18:17,900 --> 01:18:20,400
And see I'm on the exact
opposite because I think if

1363
01:18:20,500 --> 01:18:25,400
looking at the gains we've lost,
you know, you'd think you talked

1364
01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:27,600
about Van Dyke.
There are times he just we

1365
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:29,900
couldn't get him off a spot.
I think Barney would have got

1366
01:18:29,900 --> 01:18:32,300
him off of spot.
I think bar no would have gotten

1367
01:18:33,300 --> 01:18:35,500
even though I see Carolina still
as a loss.

1368
01:18:35,500 --> 01:18:37,300
I think bar.
No would have got intrigued me

1369
01:18:37,300 --> 01:18:38,900
off a spot.
I think our know would have

1370
01:18:38,900 --> 01:18:41,900
helped significantly with the
run defense against West

1371
01:18:41,900 --> 01:18:45,700
Virginia and Much as I want to
put on the offense.

1372
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:50,500
The defense did break late and
could you imagine having that

1373
01:18:50,500 --> 01:18:56,100
one extra Dynamic player on the
field for 20 extra plays and

1374
01:18:56,100 --> 01:18:59,200
where it takes the total, but
we'll stop.

1375
01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:00,800
There's our count printer
points.

1376
01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:03,600
Brian's taking the second
offensive lineman Luke to new

1377
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:05,300
to.
I'm taking a maribor.

1378
01:19:05,300 --> 01:19:08,000
No at the edge.
Alright.

1379
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:12,400
Then we got to the to where we
kind of flip the coin because we

1380
01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:17,700
could, they both would be good.
Brian, I'll let you Since you

1381
01:19:17,700 --> 01:19:19,900
want him in the coin, but I'll
let you start with your guy

1382
01:19:19,900 --> 01:19:24,200
first.
Alright, so I'm we're targeting

1383
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:25,300
here.
Wide receiver.

1384
01:19:25,300 --> 01:19:29,000
Yes, we are.
And I went Trey Turner here.

1385
01:19:30,500 --> 01:19:33,000
I think, you know, putting him
on this team, he's immediately

1386
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:36,400
wide receiver one.
I appreciate what Caleb Smith is

1387
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:39,500
doing, but just trays ability to
run.

1388
01:19:39,700 --> 01:19:43,800
I think a different combination
of routes would have helped and

1389
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:46,500
just his veteran presence would
have helped.

1390
01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:51,400
At this team, it would also
allow Smith to operate without

1391
01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:55,500
as much attention trade trade
with at least draw an equal.

1392
01:19:56,400 --> 01:20:00,700
You know, respect across that
line, you wouldn't quite have as

1393
01:20:00,700 --> 01:20:03,400
many people keying on what Caleb
Smith is doing.

1394
01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:09,200
If you got Trey Turner opposite
them, the leadership and Veteran

1395
01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:10,800
presence in the wide receiver
room.

1396
01:20:11,100 --> 01:20:14,000
I think that's big trade.
We've definitely a leader.

1397
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:20,200
He was a guy that you could tell
love the It was kind of, you

1398
01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:25,600
know, a great voice in the room
and it creates a, you know, he

1399
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:29,100
has a versatile skills that wide
receiver, he never ended up

1400
01:20:29,500 --> 01:20:34,400
becoming the, you know, the the
huge presence that I think some

1401
01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:37,700
people thought he would as a
freshman, but he is a very, very

1402
01:20:37,700 --> 01:20:39,500
solid player.
Would definitely be wide

1403
01:20:39,500 --> 01:20:42,300
receiver one on this team and he
can do a lot of different

1404
01:20:42,300 --> 01:20:45,400
things.
Whether it's, you know, do stuff

1405
01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:49,400
out of the back field, Old jet
sweeps, all sorts of things.

1406
01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:51,600
So he showed that he has the
versatility to do a lot of

1407
01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:53,600
different things.
In an offense, I think having a

1408
01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:56,600
veteran like that on the team
would have been a big boost.

1409
01:20:57,100 --> 01:20:59,800
Yeah.
And obviously if Brian went tray

1410
01:21:00,300 --> 01:21:02,000
I was on the opposite side of
the coin.

1411
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:06,400
I went Kay Robinson immediate
upgrade in the slot and at the

1412
01:21:06,407 --> 01:21:10,600
wide receiver position cable
Smith has played great this year

1413
01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:13,900
at The X.
So I think having Tavon there

1414
01:21:14,500 --> 01:21:18,500
would be a huge up Grade, he
fits the scheme.

1415
01:21:18,500 --> 01:21:21,800
Well, there are a lot of things
that we are seeing done with the

1416
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:24,500
other receivers that you feel
like, if Taylor Robinson had

1417
01:21:24,500 --> 01:21:28,700
just hung out, maybe he's not
where he is with Kentucky, with

1418
01:21:28,700 --> 01:21:30,500
this debts.
I mean his stats in Kentucky

1419
01:21:30,500 --> 01:21:33,600
this year pretty daggone good.
I mean averaging over 15 and a

1420
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:38,000
half, a catch almost 400 yards
and six games he is well on his

1421
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:44,100
way to easily breaking his his
yards and touchdown set when he

1422
01:21:44,100 --> 01:21:48,400
was with the Hokies all So that
special team and don't get me

1423
01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:52,700
wrong, but we haven't fumbled.
But like once this year on

1424
01:21:52,700 --> 01:21:57,000
special teams but with him, you
know, it's Dynamic, you know, if

1425
01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:59,100
you're punching to Tavian
Robinson.

1426
01:22:00,300 --> 01:22:03,800
You might have to leave one less
guy into potentially, not block

1427
01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:06,200
the pain to get down field
because we know he can take them

1428
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:08,600
to the house.
We know he can get you big field

1429
01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:12,900
flipping returns and I think
that's another really crucial

1430
01:22:12,900 --> 01:22:16,800
element because you put the fear
in special teams.

1431
01:22:17,300 --> 01:22:20,500
And then again you mentioned
what Trey I think it's the same

1432
01:22:20,500 --> 01:22:22,000
with taste a versatile skill
set, right?

1433
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:25,500
We saw these guys forums, we saw
them do different things and

1434
01:22:25,500 --> 01:22:28,500
that Woods makes them so
important and it may be a reason

1435
01:22:28,500 --> 01:22:31,600
we didn't bring Mitchell back
his It was more than one element

1436
01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:36,900
in the gain that can affect and
to us we kind of discussed it,

1437
01:22:36,900 --> 01:22:38,600
they were both mythical.
That's why Miss.

1438
01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:41,300
We literally had a coin toss who
was going to talk about who

1439
01:22:42,900 --> 01:22:45,900
because we look at that room
Braun and what's it missing?

1440
01:22:46,900 --> 01:22:50,100
It's missing like one top-end
talent and Leadership.

1441
01:22:50,100 --> 01:22:51,400
That's what it's missing the
most.

1442
01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:55,900
You know, if you got a leader
and you got a top in player, you

1443
01:22:55,900 --> 01:22:58,700
know, you probably turn in some
of these plays that were

1444
01:22:58,700 --> 01:23:01,200
missing.
In the first downs in two

1445
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:07,600
touchdowns.
Absolutely and and you know and

1446
01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:09,900
that's what kind of stinks going
through here and look at it all

1447
01:23:09,900 --> 01:23:12,600
the players potentially come
back, we chose three.

1448
01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:20,600
It is a few players from being a
better team and that's where the

1449
01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:23,300
other long part of our
conversation on Friday.

1450
01:23:23,300 --> 01:23:26,100
When we talk was.
All right, Brian, where's our

1451
01:23:26,100 --> 01:23:30,800
team of our three guys, come
back And I sat there and told

1452
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:35,000
you that I think Carolina's a
loss regardless, I do.

1453
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:38,500
But I think if I were three
players come back, I think I'd

1454
01:23:38,500 --> 01:23:40,900
chalk up Carolina as a loss.
I don't chalk up.

1455
01:23:40,900 --> 01:23:43,200
A TOD you as a loss.
I think that's a win.

1456
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:45,900
I think we would have scored a
lot more points on them, and

1457
01:23:45,900 --> 01:23:47,800
probably kept them.
The less points with bar, no

1458
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:51,100
attacking off the edge.
And then I think of one of the

1459
01:23:51,100 --> 01:23:55,700
other games is, I think hit or
the Miami game goes, the way of

1460
01:23:55,700 --> 01:23:59,100
the Hokies with those guys, and
I know we can say, well, my No.

1461
01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:01,800
Excuse me.
Yeah, Pitter Miami.

1462
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:04,600
All right.
No not there yet.

1463
01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:06,700
Mommy was your Junior.
I think two of those, three go

1464
01:24:06,700 --> 01:24:08,400
the Hokies way.
Because if the West Virginia

1465
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:12,100
game, that was still a game
going into the fourth, same with

1466
01:24:12,100 --> 01:24:14,400
the pits, same with the Miami
Hurricanes.

1467
01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:18,100
I think we flip a couple of
those because of having both

1468
01:24:18,100 --> 01:24:20,600
sides of the balls present, so I
think we're probably sitting

1469
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:24,200
five and two right now.
And, yes, I have maroon colored

1470
01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:28,000
glasses on tonight.
I think we're at least four and

1471
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:29,100
three.
I think we're at least above

1472
01:24:29,100 --> 01:24:33,200
500.
If you put those three, As back

1473
01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:36,900
on this team, I think you
definitely went over to you, and

1474
01:24:36,900 --> 01:24:39,300
I think he probably take down
Miami for sure.

1475
01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:44,000
You, make pit, you know a big
conversation late and you make,

1476
01:24:46,700 --> 01:24:49,700
you make West Virginia, a
conversation late as well.

1477
01:24:51,400 --> 01:24:54,700
But the guys, I'm adding back on
aren't helping the defense a

1478
01:24:54,700 --> 01:24:57,700
lot.
I feel like defense is what hurt

1479
01:24:57,700 --> 01:24:59,900
us the most in those games.
Hmm.

1480
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:04,100
So you know not be noticed
Generate offense hurts but you

1481
01:25:04,100 --> 01:25:08,400
know, the the defense still
didn't, you came apart late?

1482
01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:11,500
I think they probably still give
up the same amount of points,

1483
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:16,000
and I'm not sure even with these
additions if we can match that.

1484
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:18,100
But so I've got to sit for in
three.

1485
01:25:18,100 --> 01:25:22,400
I've got us winning ODU and
winning against Miami with

1486
01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:26,500
these, with these players back
on the roster, all right?

1487
01:25:27,900 --> 01:25:30,900
Alright.
Now the last part of our

1488
01:25:30,900 --> 01:25:34,200
exercise we did in this didn't
take as long as it Brian.

1489
01:25:34,300 --> 01:25:36,900
What if like, six of these
players come back and let's say

1490
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:42,100
that the guys we talked about,
let's say we both get that we

1491
01:25:42,100 --> 01:25:45,200
get because I'll agree with
Brian Luke was up close to me,

1492
01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:51,200
but let's say we get Two new de.
You get bar know, you get both

1493
01:25:51,200 --> 01:25:53,400
wide receivers, you get, let's
see this.

1494
01:25:53,600 --> 01:25:56,600
That's five, right?
Yeah, that's that's the five

1495
01:25:56,600 --> 01:25:59,600
that we discuss in.
We said we throw Jermaine and

1496
01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:03,200
there as well.
And Jimmy, if you got all six of

1497
01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:05,600
our players back, where do you
think we'd be?

1498
01:26:08,100 --> 01:26:11,400
I think six in one man.
I think if you bring all six of

1499
01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:13,900
those guys back, you know you
get enough boost on the

1500
01:26:13,900 --> 01:26:17,400
defensive side where you slow
down you and see a little bit

1501
01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:19,600
more.
It's that game becomes, close

1502
01:26:19,700 --> 01:26:22,400
you, slow down West Virginia,
that game becomes a w.

1503
01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:27,200
You slow down pit in that game
become the W.

1504
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:31,900
So you end up six and one and
then, you know, you're kind of

1505
01:26:31,900 --> 01:26:36,000
in the not the driver's seat in
the conference in the coastal.

1506
01:26:36,700 --> 01:26:40,600
But you know, you get one extra
lost by U and c.

1507
01:26:40,600 --> 01:26:42,800
And now you're now you're the
team to beat, right?

1508
01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:46,400
So absolutely.
And that's why I was fun to do

1509
01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:48,500
this because you look at these
guys, in their skill sets and

1510
01:26:48,500 --> 01:26:51,000
where they fit, and it's even
more apparent.

1511
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:54,900
As we get into the season where
you're missing, then they all

1512
01:26:54,900 --> 01:26:57,500
had their reasons for leaving
and that was 100% fine.

1513
01:26:57,500 --> 01:27:00,300
You don't fault anyone who feels
like they are making the best

1514
01:27:00,300 --> 01:27:03,800
decision for themselves, but it
sort of sucks, though, as you

1515
01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:06,100
sit here as fans as we look at
this every week and we talked

1516
01:27:06,100 --> 01:27:11,200
about Out guys saying God that
has just come back, but on the

1517
01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:18,000
other hand, the piece that me
and Brian also discussed was,

1518
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:21,100
did we want 2016 to happen
again?

1519
01:27:22,100 --> 01:27:26,800
Does anybody want 2016 to happen
again and not necessarily that

1520
01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:29,900
year or the year after?
But the subsequent years, right?

1521
01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:36,600
The subsequent years and being
on the hook for a buyout as a Of

1522
01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:41,100
the subsequent years I think
right now we know whatever we

1523
01:27:41,100 --> 01:27:44,700
get it's being built by Brent
pride in his staff.

1524
01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:50,700
Yep whatever, whatever the
results are good or bad going

1525
01:27:50,700 --> 01:27:54,100
forward after this year.
You know, Brent prize got his

1526
01:27:54,100 --> 01:27:57,700
hands on it, he's got his hands
on it and if you're three comes

1527
01:27:57,700 --> 01:28:00,300
and we're six and six, I think
we're going to look at that

1528
01:28:00,300 --> 01:28:01,800
through a different light,
right?

1529
01:28:02,900 --> 01:28:05,000
Yeah.
Then we would have like we did

1530
01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:08,100
in 2018.
And if 2019 we went eight or

1531
01:28:08,108 --> 01:28:11,000
nine games or you know, four
years from now at eight or nine

1532
01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:14,900
games, it's this, it's that
constant building where if all

1533
01:28:14,900 --> 01:28:17,500
those guys come back and I know
I think for all of us, we'd love

1534
01:28:17,500 --> 01:28:19,700
to be six of them.
I'd love to be talking about

1535
01:28:19,700 --> 01:28:21,600
wins every week.
We'd love to talk wins every

1536
01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:22,800
week.
That's a hell of a lot, more fun

1537
01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:26,300
than talking about losses.
But the reality is, if we go

1538
01:28:26,300 --> 01:28:31,100
back six years, how much Isaiah
Ford, Bucky Hodges.

1539
01:28:31,300 --> 01:28:37,500
Cam Phillips, Tremaine Edmonds,
Terrell Edmonds, all those good

1540
01:28:37,500 --> 01:28:40,400
players offensive ly in
defensively those first couple

1541
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:45,100
years, Jerrod Evan.
Sorry gonna forgive him.

1542
01:28:45,900 --> 01:28:49,500
How much they covered up a lot
of warts.

1543
01:28:50,100 --> 01:28:54,200
They got shown after the big
contract after all.

1544
01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:59,800
Other shit happened, I'll say,
especially in 2017 and that

1545
01:28:59,800 --> 01:29:04,800
defense, the town on that
defense and how much that

1546
01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:07,500
covered up.
Some of the warts that were

1547
01:29:07,508 --> 01:29:10,900
starting to show that year
because when we look back, we're

1548
01:29:10,900 --> 01:29:13,100
like, okay.
Well we had a, we had an

1549
01:29:13,100 --> 01:29:16,600
above-average year, but we're
already starting to see the

1550
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:21,800
cracks in the foundation.
And, you know, with the cracks

1551
01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:25,000
in the foundation, he had 2018,
there was such an exodus of

1552
01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:27,600
talent that that you couldn't
really.

1553
01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:30,200
You know, how bad is this team
is?

1554
01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:31,500
Are they bad because they're
younger?

1555
01:29:31,500 --> 01:29:36,400
They bad, because they're not
coached well, And then then you

1556
01:29:36,407 --> 01:29:38,800
get to 19.
You start saying, you know.

1557
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:41,900
Okay, well now we're now we're
starting this guy that's

1558
01:29:41,900 --> 01:29:45,300
throwing a lot of picks and
we're getting blown out by Duke

1559
01:29:45,600 --> 01:29:50,600
and we're taking an intervention
from an analyst to get the right

1560
01:29:50,600 --> 01:29:52,300
course, starting quarterback in
there.

1561
01:29:53,700 --> 01:29:56,700
You know, there's so many things
that as you getting into year

1562
01:29:56,700 --> 01:29:59,500
three and four that you start
getting some answers to that you

1563
01:29:59,500 --> 01:30:03,900
didn't necessarily have in year
1 and 2 and at least with the

1564
01:30:03,900 --> 01:30:05,800
way we're going.
Now.

1565
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:11,200
When we get to year for we're
going, another will either know

1566
01:30:11,200 --> 01:30:13,400
where we won't.
Well, bubble.

1567
01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:17,300
Also knowing it's already kind
of being shown up front that you

1568
01:30:17,300 --> 01:30:19,600
feel like prize already holding
coaching staff accountable

1569
01:30:19,600 --> 01:30:23,100
pretty quick because if you come
to your form, they're still

1570
01:30:23,100 --> 01:30:25,500
struggles and Tyler bonesteel.
You, he fires them.

1571
01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:30,400
Your three or four.
Then you know you might say well

1572
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:33,000
at least he knows something's
not right?

1573
01:30:33,700 --> 01:30:36,500
And that could be with various
things that he's letting people

1574
01:30:36,500 --> 01:30:40,300
go because that's still the
biggest up.

1575
01:30:40,300 --> 01:30:44,200
Justin Fuente.
Never took he never took that

1576
01:30:44,200 --> 01:30:49,300
step when there was an issue in
everybody, even Layman like me,

1577
01:30:50,200 --> 01:30:53,200
who have to ask you a lot of
questions to get more insight on

1578
01:30:53,200 --> 01:30:56,400
the game.
Can see plainly, like this is

1579
01:30:56,600 --> 01:31:01,300
Good on that side of the bowl.
So, it is what it is.

1580
01:31:02,100 --> 01:31:04,700
All right, Brian.
No, the enemy this week.

1581
01:31:05,400 --> 01:31:06,600
Yeah.
We don't have an enemy.

1582
01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:08,900
There's no game prediction, so
we don't have to go out on a

1583
01:31:08,907 --> 01:31:12,000
limb.
But there are some big big games

1584
01:31:12,100 --> 01:31:15,800
on Saturday, and I'm going out
to the wet West Coast.

1585
01:31:15,800 --> 01:31:19,000
I'm going to the AUX and Zoo.
Oregon UCLA.

1586
01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:22,000
I'm not even looking at the line
on that game.

1587
01:31:22,200 --> 01:31:25,700
I'm looking at the over under
the over under 70 and a half.

1588
01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:28,500
These teams can both score
points.

1589
01:31:28,600 --> 01:31:30,800
I don't think 70 and a half
closed.

1590
01:31:31,200 --> 01:31:37,300
I'm gonna take the over and I
slept on you sell a few weekends

1591
01:31:37,300 --> 01:31:43,000
ago at home against At home
against Washington and I'm gonna

1592
01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:45,300
sleep on them again.
I think Morgan wins this game at

1593
01:31:45,300 --> 01:31:51,100
a 3:30 on Saturday.
What you got on my big screen?

1594
01:31:51,100 --> 01:31:54,400
I'm going to have Okie State
Texas.

1595
01:31:56,400 --> 01:31:59,700
Texas is a six and a half Point
favorite here.

1596
01:32:00,100 --> 01:32:02,500
Road favorite road favorite,
road.

1597
01:32:02,500 --> 01:32:06,900
Favorite over/under is 61 and a
half.

1598
01:32:07,300 --> 01:32:10,600
I'm going to take the over here.
Both of these teams have been

1599
01:32:10,600 --> 01:32:13,100
scoring some pretty pretty big
numbers but not some pretty

1600
01:32:13,100 --> 01:32:17,400
round numbers here lately, and
I'm going to actually take okey

1601
01:32:17,400 --> 01:32:21,000
state in the points here.
I'm not sure if they win it

1602
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:24,000
outright, but that thing's gonna
come down to the wire and I

1603
01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:27,500
think Okie state is feeling a
little Little bit of Need for

1604
01:32:27,500 --> 01:32:30,000
some Revenge.
I think after after what went

1605
01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:34,400
down last week, after blowing at
14 point lead, well, Brian.

1606
01:32:34,400 --> 01:32:36,600
Has anything broken on the
twittersphere?

1607
01:32:36,600 --> 01:32:40,800
Any other news broken, did
anybody lose a baseball game?

1608
01:32:42,500 --> 01:32:43,800
I don't have the game on right
now.

1609
01:32:43,800 --> 01:32:46,700
You tell me but I don't either I
didn't turn it off or I got in

1610
01:32:46,700 --> 01:32:48,600
here.
We missed the fun belt.

1611
01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:50,300
We could have, had the fun belt
in the background here?

1612
01:32:50,300 --> 01:32:53,400
That's all on me.
I was rushing to get in here

1613
01:32:53,400 --> 01:32:55,500
tonight, but AB State blew the
doors off.

1614
01:32:55,600 --> 01:33:00,900
Off.
George Estate, who Yeah, the fun

1615
01:33:00,900 --> 01:33:03,000
belts the fun but you never know
what's going to happen there.

1616
01:33:03,000 --> 01:33:06,000
But if there's nothing that that
is going to wrap up this episode

1617
01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:10,100
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1618
01:33:10,108 --> 01:33:16,400
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1619
01:33:16,400 --> 01:33:20,600
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1620
01:33:20,600 --> 01:33:24,600
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1621
01:33:24,600 --> 01:33:28,600
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1622
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1624
01:33:33,407 --> 01:33:35,400
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1625
01:33:35,400 --> 01:33:39,600
We are very appreciative of it.
Again, we're going to figure out

1626
01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:43,400
a way to get film and bronze
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1627
01:33:43,400 --> 01:33:48,600
not get arrested, or have a
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1628
01:33:48,600 --> 01:33:52,900
throwing on him podcast wise,
Amazon Spotify, all your

1629
01:33:52,900 --> 01:33:55,300
favorite sources.
As always, we let our buddy.

1630
01:33:55,300 --> 01:33:58,700
Jason long playlist in play us
out tonight as we wrap up.

1631
01:33:58,708 --> 01:34:02,100
Up this episode, we've actually
got one of his songs from his

1632
01:34:02,100 --> 01:34:06,300
summer 2022.
EP, I think the title is it may

1633
01:34:06,300 --> 01:34:09,100
look bad.
Which I think we as hokey fans

1634
01:34:09,100 --> 01:34:13,400
feel that right now, check him
out on his website.

1635
01:34:13,400 --> 01:34:17,500
Jason long, music.com to link to
all of his music, Apple Spotify,

1636
01:34:17,500 --> 01:34:20,200
his YouTube account, his
Facebook pages.

1637
01:34:20,600 --> 01:34:23,600
And I think he is playing
somewhere live this weekend.

1638
01:34:23,600 --> 01:34:30,300
Let's see.
Yep, October 19th at the night

1639
01:34:31,600 --> 01:34:36,600
we played there tonight, so
Kayson If this was last night,

1640
01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:40,700
we could have got it off, but he
will be playing the 29th at the

1641
01:34:40,800 --> 01:34:44,400
Grand in Village Farmers Market
from 8 to 12 down in Roanoke.

1642
01:34:44,700 --> 01:34:48,900
Him out, there is always, we
thank you all for listening and

1643
01:34:48,900 --> 01:34:51,000
let's go okey.